Donald Trump
Appearances
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Presidential Debate Reaction, Biden Hot Swap?, Tech unemployment, OpenAI considers for-profit & more
Joe, you did such a great job. You answered every question. You knew all the questions. And let me ask the crowd, what did Trump do?
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump wins! How it happened and what's next
For prisoners.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump wins! How it happened and what's next
Hell no, I don't want my taxpayer dollars going to that. Kamala supports transgender sex changes in jail with our money. Kamala even supports letting biological men compete against our girls in their sports. Kamala is for they, them. President Trump is for you. I'm Donald J. Trump, and I approve this message.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Kamala surges, Trump at NABJ, recession fears, Middle East escalation, Ackman postpones IPO
Well, first of all, I don't think I've ever been asked a question in such a horrible manner, the first question. You don't even say, hello, how are you? Are you with ABC? Because I think they're a fake news network, a terrible network. And... I think it's disgraceful that I came here in good spirit. I love the black population of this country.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Kamala surges, Trump at NABJ, recession fears, Middle East escalation, Ackman postpones IPO
I've done so much for the black population of this country, including employment, including Opportunity Zones with Senator Tim Scott of South Carolina, which is one of the greatest programs ever for black workers and black entrepreneurs. I've done so much. And, you know, when I say this, Historically, black colleges and universities were out of money.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Kamala surges, Trump at NABJ, recession fears, Middle East escalation, Ackman postpones IPO
They were stone cold broke and I saved them and I gave them long term financing and nobody else was doing it. I think it's a very rude introduction. I don't know exactly why you would do something like that. And let me go a step further. I was invited here and I was told my opponent, whether it was Biden or Kamala, I was told my opponent was going to be here. It turned out my opponent isn't here.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Kamala surges, Trump at NABJ, recession fears, Middle East escalation, Ackman postpones IPO
You invited me under false pretense. And then you said you can't do it with Zoom. Well, you know, where's Zoom? She's going to do it with Zoom and she's not coming. And then you were half an hour late. Just so we understand, I have too much respect for you to be late. They couldn't get their equipment working or something was wrong. I think it's a very nasty question. I have answered the question.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Kamala surges, Trump at NABJ, recession fears, Middle East escalation, Ackman postpones IPO
I've known her a long time indirectly, not directly very much. And she was always of Indian heritage and she was only promoting Indian heritage. I didn't know she was black until a number of years ago when she happened to turn black. And now she wants to be known as black. So I don't know. Is she Indian or is she black?
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Kamala surges, Trump at NABJ, recession fears, Middle East escalation, Ackman postpones IPO
I respect either one. But she obviously doesn't because she was Indian all the way. And then all of a sudden she made a turn and she went she became a black person. Just to be clear, sir, do you believe I think somebody should look into that, too, when you ask a continue in a very hostile, nasty town.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
And now it's a much tougher deal to make than it would have been before it started. Millions of people. I think the number is going to be a lot higher when you see this all at some point iron out. I think the numbers are going to be the death numbers are going to be a lot higher than people think.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
When you take a look at the destruction and the buildings coming down all over the place in Ukraine, I think those numbers are going to be a lot higher. They lie about the numbers. They try and keep them low. They knock down a building that's two blocks long. These are big buildings. And They say one person was mildly injured. No, no. A lot of people were killed.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
And there are people in those buildings, and they have no chance. Once they start coming down, there's no chance. So that's a war that absolutely has to get done. And then you have Israel, and then you have a lot of other places that are talking war. The world is a rough place right now. And a lot of it's because of the fact that America has no leadership.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
And I believe that she'll be probably worse than Biden. I watched the interview the other night. I mean, it was just a softball interview.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
I don't know. I can't believe the whole thing is happening. We had a man in there that should have never been in there. They kept him in a basement. They used COVID. They cheated, but they used COVID to cheat, and they cheated without COVID too. But you had somebody in there, and now we have a woman that is not – I mean, she couldn't do an interview. This was a really soft interview.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
This is an interview where they're given a multiple-choice – questions, multiple guests. I called up multiple guests and I don't think she did well. I think she did very poorly.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
So I've done a lot of debating, only as a politician. I never debated. My first debate was the Rosie O'Donnell debate, right? The famous Rosie O'Donnell debate, the answer. But I've done well with debates. I mean, I became president. Then the second time I got millions more votes than I got the first time. I was told if I got 63 million, which is what I got the first time, you would win.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
You can't not win. And I got millions of more votes than that. lost by a whisker. And look what happened to the world with all of the wars and all of the problems. And look what happened with inflation because inflation is just eating up our country, eating it up. So it's too bad. But there are a lot of things that could happen. We have to get those wars settled.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
I'll tell you, you have to get Ukraine done. That could end up in a third world war. So could the Middle East. So could the Middle East.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
I don't know. I can tell you that all of this would have never happened and it would have been very easy because you don't have, like, that question wouldn't be asked. You know, that's a tougher question. Once that starts happening... Because he has taken over a lot of territory. Now, I guess they're insurgents now too, right?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
So, you know, it's a little bit interesting that that's happening and that it can happen. And it's interesting that Putin has allowed that to happen. Look, that's one that should have never started. We have to get it stopped. Ukraine is being demolished. They're destroying a great culture that's largely destroyed.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
And with some people, it's the stick, and with some people, it's the carrot. I think the stick probably is generally more successful in that we're talking about war. But the kind of destruction that we're witnessing now, nobody's ever seen. I mean, it's a terrible thing. And we're witnessing it all over. We're witnessing it in all parts of the world. And a lot of things are going to get started.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
Look what's going on with China. Look at Japan. They're starting to rearm now. They're starting to rearm because China's getting, you know, taking over certain islands. And there's a lot of danger in the war right now in the world. There's a lot of—and there's a great possibility of World War III. And we better get this thing done fast because five months with people like her—
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
And him, he's checked out. He just goes to the beach and thinks he looks good in a bathing suit, which he doesn't. He's sort of checked out. Hey, look, you know, you can't blame him. That was a coup. They took it over. They took over the presidential deal. The whole presidential thing was taken over in a coup. He had 14 million votes. He had no votes, not one.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
And nobody thought it was going to be her. Nobody wanted it to be her. She was a joke until six weeks ago when they said we're going to have to politically, they felt they had to pick her. And if they didn't pick her, they thought there'd be a problem. I don't know if that's right or not. I actually don't think it's right, but they thought it was right.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
Well, there are ways. Now, here's the problem. If I tell you how, and I'd love to do it, but if I give you a plan, like I have a very exacting plan how to stop Ukraine and Russia, and I have a certain idea, maybe not a plan, but an idea for China. Because we do, you know, we're in a lot of trouble. They'll be in a lot of trouble too. But we're in a lot of trouble.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
But I can't give you those plans because if I give you those plans, I'm not going to be able to use them. They'll be very unsuccessful. You know, part of it's surprise, right?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
No, I had a very good relationship with him, and I had a good relationship with Zelensky too, but I had a very good relationship with Putin.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
I think the fraud was on the other side. I think the election was a fraud. And many people felt it was that, and they wanted answers. And when you can't challenge an election, you have to be able to challenge it. Otherwise, it's going to get worse, not better. And there are lots of ways to solve this problem. Go to paper ballots. Do it the easy way.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
I mean, the paper ballots, and you have voter ID, and you have same-day voting. And you have proof of citizenship, which is very important because we have people voting that are not citizens. They just came in and they're loading up the payrolls. They're loading up everything. They're putting students in schools that don't speak a word of English.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
And they're taking the seats of people that are citizens of our country. So, look, we have... the worst border in the history of the world. We have coming into our country right now millions and millions of people at levels that nobody's ever seen. I don't believe any country's ever seen it. And they would use sticks and stones not to make it happen, not to let it happen. We don't do anything.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
And we have a person who was the border czar who now said she wasn't really the border czar, but she was. She was the border czar, but she was in charge of the border. And we have her, and she's saying very strongly, oh, I did such a good job. She was horrible, horrible. The harm she's done. But we have people coming in from other countries all over the world, not just South America.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
And they're coming in from prisons and jails. They're coming in from mental institutions and insane asylums. And they're street criminals, right off the street they take them. And they're being given to our country, drug dealers, human traffickers. We're destroying our country. This is a sin what's been allowed to take place over the last four years. We're destroying our country.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
And we'll see how that all works out. But it's not even believable. And now you see, you saw in Aurora, Colorado, a group of very tough young thugs from Venezuela taking over big areas, including buildings. They're taking over buildings. They have their big rifles. but they're taking over buildings. We're not going to let this happen. We're not going to let them destroy our country.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
And you know, in those countries, crime is way down. They're taking them out of their prisons, which is good because it's good for them. I do the same thing. By the way, if I ran one of those countries, any country in the world, I would make sure that America has every one of our prisoners. Every one of our criminals would be here. I can't believe they're going so slowly, but some aren't.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
But they all are doing it. And we can't let that happen. They're emptying out their prisons and their mental institutions into the United States of America. We can't let that happen.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
Well, I don't focus on the past. I focus on the future. I mean, I talk about how bad the economy is, how bad inflation is. Now bad things like, which is important, Afghanistan was, in my opinion, the most embarrassing thing that's ever happened to our country. And because of that, I think Putin went in. When he said how stupid we were, Putin went in.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
But it was the most embarrassing moment in the history of our country. I really believe that. But, you know, we left 13 dead soldiers alive. Think of it, 13 dead soldiers, many soldiers horrifically hurt with arms and legs and everything else gone. We left hostages behind. We left Americans behind. We left military equipment, the likes of which nobody's ever left behind before.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
Billions and billions of dollars of equipment. They're now selling the equipment. They're one of the largest arms dealers ever. in the world. And very sad, very sad. And we were there for a long time. I was going to get out. We were getting ready to get out. Then we got interrupted by the election. But we would have been out with dignity and strength.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
We were having very little problem with the Taliban when I was there because they knew it was going to be tough. I dealt with Abdul. Abdul was the leader. And We got along fine. He understood. But, you know, they were shooting. They were killing a lot of our people before I came down. And when I got there, I said, I spoke to him. I said, you can't do it. Don't do it anymore.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
We went 18 months before this happened, this horrible day happened. We went 18 months and nobody was shot at or killed.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
That was the stick, yeah. It doesn't have to be, but that was the stick.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
Well, I hope it's not a close one. I mean, I don't know how people can vote for somebody that has destroyed our country. The inflation, the bad economy, but But to me, in a way, the worst is what they've allowed to happen at our border, where they've allowed millions of people to come in here from places that you don't want to know about.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
And I can't believe that that's going to be a close election. You know, we're leading in the polls, and it looks close, but I think in the end it's not going to be a close election.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
Well, you've got to get the criminals out of here fast, right? The people from mental institutions, you've got to get them back into their mental institution. No country can afford this. It's just too much money. You look at what's happening in New York and Chicago and L.A. and lots of places, and you take a look at what's happening. There's no country can afford this. We can't afford it.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
And we've got to get the bad ones out immediately. And the rest have to be worked on. You know, it's happened before. Dwight Eisenhower was sort of a moderate president, moderate type person. But he hated when he saw people pouring into the country. And they were. Nothing like now. You know, I probably got elected in 2016 because of the border issue.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
And I told people what was happening and they understood it. And I won the election. And I won the election, I think, because of the border. Our border is 25 times worse right now than it was in 2016. I had it fixed. The last week of the famous chart that I put up was exactly that. You know the chart. When I looked to the right, I said, there's the chart. Bing. That was not a pleasant experience.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
But the chart that I put up said, and that was done by Border Patrol, that was the lowest number that we've ever had come into our country in recorded history. And we have to get it back to that again. We will.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
I know nothing about it. And they know that too. Democrats know that. And I purposely haven't read it because I want to say to you, I have no idea what it's all about. It's easier than saying I read it and all of the things. No, I purposely haven't read it. And I've heard about it. I've heard about things that are in there that...
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
And there are some things in there that everybody would like, but there are things that I don't like at all. And I think it's unfortunate that they put it out, but it doesn't mean anything because it has nothing to do with me. Project 25 has absolutely nothing to do with me.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
Well, I just put out a paper. And first of all, medical marijuana has been amazing. I've had friends and I've had others and doctors telling me that it's been absolutely amazing, the medical marijuana. And we put out a statement that we can live with the marijuana. It's got to be a certain age. It's got to be a certain age to buy it. It's got to be done in a very... concerted, lawful way.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
And the way they're doing it in Florida, I think, is going to be actually good. It's going to be very good. But it's got to be done in a good way. It's got to be done in a clean way. You go into some of these places, like in New York, it smells all marijuana. You've got to have a system where there's control. And I think the way they've done it in Florida is very good.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
So we put out a statement today. We're going to put out another one probably next week.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
more specific although i think it's pretty specific and we'll uh we'll see how that all goes that's a referendum coming up in some states but it's coming up and we'll see how it does i will say it's been very hard to beat it you take a look at the numbers it's been very hard to beat it so i think it'll generally pass but you want to do it in a safe way
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
Well, I don't think there was any tension. And I've always liked him, but I don't know him. I mean, I only see him when I walk into the arena with Dana and I shake his hand. I see him there and... I think he's good at what he does, but I don't know about doing his podcast. I mean, I guess I'd do it, but I haven't been asked, and I'm not asking them. I'm not asking anybody.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
It sounds like a challenging negotiation situation. No, it's not really a negotiation. And he's sort of a liberal guy, I guess, from what I understand. But he likes Kennedy. I found this out before Kennedy came in with us. He's going to be great. Bobby's going to be great. But I like that he likes Kennedy. I do too. You know, he's a different kind of a guy, but he's got some great things going.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
And, uh, I think he's going to be, beyond politics, I think he could be quite influential in taking care of some situations that you probably would agree should be taken care of.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
Yeah, I do, but not that often. Honestly, you know, I do a lot of reposting. The ones you get in trouble with are the reposts because you find down deep they're into some group that you're not supposed to be reposting. You don't even know if those groups are good, bad, or indifferent. But the reposts are the ones that really get you in trouble. When you do your own words, it's sort of easier.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
But the reposts go very quickly. And if you're going to check every single little symbol, and I don't know, it's worked out pretty well for me, I tell you. Truth is very powerful, truth. And it's my platform, and it's been very powerful, very, very powerful. It goes everywhere. I call it my typewriter. That's actually my typewriter.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
I'd like to do something late at night. I'm not a huge sleeper. But whenever I do them past like 3 o'clock, they criticize you the next day. Trump was up. truthing, okay? Trump was truthing at 3 o'clock in the morning. And there should be no problem with that. And then when you think about time zones, how do they know that you're, like, you know, in a time zone, like an eastern zone?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
So, but every time I do it after, like, 2 or 3 o'clock, it's like, why is he doing that? But it's gotten, I mean, you know, truth has become a very successful... platform. And I like doing it. And it goes everywhere. As soon as I do it, it goes everywhere.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
Well, you can get rid of these two people. They're terrible. They're terrible. You don't want to have them running this country. They're not equipped to run it. Joe, it's a disaster. And Kamala, I think she'll end up being worse than him. We'll see. I think a lot's now, you know, the convention's over with, and I see I'm leading in just about all the polls now.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
They had their little honeymoon period, as they call it. And we'll see how that all goes. Who knows?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
Yeah. I think you have to criticize, though. I think they're nasty. They came up with a story that I looked down and I called soldiers that died in World War I suckers and losers. Okay. Now, number one, who would say that? Number two, who would say it to military people? Nobody. It was a made-up story. It was just a made-up story. And they like to repeat it over again. They know it was made up.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
I have 26 witnesses that nothing was said. They don't want to hear about that. Like she lied on McDonald's. She said that she worked at McDonald's. It's not a big lie, but it's a big lie. They just went and they checked. And unless she can show something, they don't talk about it. The presses are going to follow up with it, but I'll keep hammering it. But she never worked at McDonald's.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
It was just sort of a cool thing to say, hey, I worked at McDonald's. But one of the worst was Two days ago, I went to Arlington at the request of people that lost their children. There'll always be children to those people. You understand that. That's not politically incorrect thing to say. The mother comes up, I lost my child. But, you know, the child is the soldier.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
And lost the child because of Biden and because of Kamala. Just as though they had the gun in their hand because it was so badly handled. It should have been done at Bagram, which is the big air base. It shouldn't have been done at a small little airport right in the middle of town where people stormed it. It was a true disaster. And they asked me if I'd come and celebrate with them three years.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
They died three years ago. And I said, I'm going to try. I got to know them because I brought them here, actually. One night, they almost all came here. And they said, I wonder if Trump will actually come and see us. I heard they were here. So we stayed for like four hours listening to music up on a deck right upstairs. Beautiful. And they were great people.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
So they called me over the last couple of weeks and they said, we're going to have a reunion, our three-year reunion. Would you be able to come? And it was very hard for me to do it logistically, but I said, I'll get it done. And I got there and we had a beautiful time. I didn't run away. I didn't just walk in, shake hands and walk out like people do.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
And I wasn't looking at my watch like Joe Biden does. And it was amazing. So I did it for them. I didn't do it for me. I don't need the publicity. I mean, I get more publicity probably than anybody. You would know that better than me, but I think maybe more than anybody. Maybe more than anybody that's ever lived. I don't know, but I don't think anyone could have any more.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
Every time you turn on television, there's like nine different stories all on different topics in the world. As an example, you interview a lot of people, good people, successful people. Let's see how you do with this interview versus them, okay? I mean, I'll... I can tell you right now, you're going to get the highest numbers you've ever had by sometimes a factor of 10.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
But when a Gold Star family asks me to come in and spend time with them, and then they said, sir, we did a ceremony, and then we went down to the graves, which was quite a distance away. They said, sir, would you... come to the grave, and then they said when we were there. It's very sad, actually, because these people shouldn't have died. They shouldn't have died.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
They died because of Biden and because of Kamala. They died because it's just like if they pulled the trigger, okay? Now, I don't know if that's controversial to say, but I don't think it is. Afghanistan was the most incompetently run operation I think I've ever seen, military or otherwise. They were incompetent. But the families asked me if I'd go. I did go.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
Then the family said, could we have a picture at the tombstone of my son? And we did. Son or daughter, there was a daughter too. And I took numerous pictures with the families. I don't know of anybody else that was in the pictures, but they were mostly families, I guess. That was it. And then I left. I spent a lot of time with him.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
Then I left, and I get home that night, and I get a call that the Biden administration, with Kamala, is accusing me of using Arlington for publicity. Just the opposite. Just the opposite. And actually, did you see? It just came out. The families actually put out a very strong statement defending me. They said, we asked him to be there.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
Well, look, I respect the fact that everybody's in there. And, you know, to a certain extent, life is what you do while you're waiting to die. So you might as well do a good job. I think in terms of what's happening now, I think, you know, we have a chance to save the country. This country's going down. And I called it with Venezuela. I called it with a lot of different countries.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
And this country is going down. If we don't win this election, the election coming up on November 5th is the most important election this country has ever had. Because if we don't win it, I don't know that there'll be another election. And it's going to be a communist country. We're close.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
come to reality it's just being used during the campaign to you know uh groceries are too expensive we need them cheaper so let's let's talk about price controls and that's never going to come to reality it could come to reality look i mean she came out with price control it's been tried like 121 different times at different places over the years and it's never worked once it it leads to communism it leads to socialism it leads to having no food on the shelves
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
And it leads to tremendous inflation. It's a bad idea.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
Yeah, they do. So I figure it's all right to call them a communist. Yeah, they call me a lot worse than I call them.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
They'll call me something that's terrible, and then I'll hit them back. And they'll say, isn't it terrible what Trump said? I said, well, wait a minute. They just called me. So I believe you have to fight fire with fire. I believe they're very evil people. These are evil people. You know, we have an enemy from the outside. And we have an enemy from within.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
And in my opinion, the enemy from within are radical left lunatics. And I think you have to fight back.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
You know, we had no wars when I was president. That's a big thing. Not since 78 years has that happened. But we had no wars when I was president. We defeated ISIS, but that was a war that was started that we weren't anywhere near defeating. But think of it, I had no wars. And Viktor Orban, the prime minister of Hungary, said the world has to have Trump back because everybody was afraid of Trump.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
Now, that's what he said. So I'm not using that term, but I think they respected me. But he said China was afraid, Russia was afraid, everybody was afraid. And I don't care what word they use. Probably that's even a better word if you want to know the truth. But let's use the word respect. They had respect for me. They had respect for the country.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
I mean, I ended the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, the Russian pipeline. Nobody else could have done that. I ended it. It was done. Then Biden comes in and he gave it, he approved it. So we're defending Germany and these other countries for peanuts compared to what it's worth. And they're paying the person we're defending them against billions and billions of dollars for energy.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
I said, how does that work? And we had it out with them and it worked out good. And they paid hundreds of billions of dollars. Or you wouldn't even have a NATO right now. You wouldn't have NATO if it wasn't for me.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
No, I don't think so. Look, I've been there for four years. I could have done a big number in Hillary Clinton. I thought it looked terrible to take the president's wife and put her in prison. She's so lucky. I didn't do anything. She's so lucky. Hillary is a lucky woman because I had a lot of people pushing me to, they wanted to They wanted to see something.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
But I could have done something very bad. I thought it looked so bad. Think of it. You have the President of the United States. And you also had Secretary of State, right? She was. But you're going to put the President's wife in prison? And yet when I got out there, you know, they have all these hoaxes. They're all hoaxes. But they have all these...
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
dishonest hoaxes, just like they did in the past with Russia, Russia, Russia. That was a hoax. The 51 different agencies or agents, that was a hoax. The whole thing was a hoax. There were so many hoaxes and scams. And, but I didn't want to put her in jail. And I didn't. And I explained it to people. You know, they say, lock her up, lock her up. It doesn't, we won.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
I said, we don't want to put her in jail. We want to bring the country together. I want to bring the country together. You don't bring the country together by putting her in jail. But then when I got out, they went to work on me. It's amazing. And they suffer from massive Trump derangement syndrome, TDS. And I don't know if it's curable from their standpoint.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
Oh, yeah, sure, I'll do that. I would do that. I'd love to do that. I have to do that. But they also are pushing me on Kennedy. And I did release a lot, but I had people come to me and beg me not to do it. But I'll be doing that very early on. Yeah, no, but I would do that.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
I don't think I had, I mean, I'm not involved. I never went to his island, fortunately. But a lot of people did.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
He was a good salesman. He was a hale and hearty type of guy. He had some nice assets that he'd throw around, like islands. But a lot of big people went to that island. But fortunately, I was not one of them.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
Yeah, it's very interesting, isn't it? Probably will be, by the way.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
Now, Kennedy's interesting because it's so many years ago. They do that for danger, too, because it endangers certain people, etc., etc. So Kennedy is very different from the Epstein thing. But yeah, I'd be inclined to do the Epstein. I'd have no problem with it.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
I think you can't care that much. I know people that care so much about everything, like what people are saying. You can't care too much because you end up choking.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
I have a friend who's very, very successful, and he's in his 80s, mid-80s, and he asked me that exact same question. I turned it around. I said, well, what about you? He said, I think about it every minute of every day. And then a week later, he called me to tell me something, and he starts off the conversation by going, tick, tock, tick, tock.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
This is a dark person, you know, in a sense, but it is what it is. I mean, you know, if you're religious, you have, I think, a better feeling toward it. You know, you're supposed to go to heaven, ideally not hell, but you're supposed to go to heaven if you're good. I think our country is missing a lot of religion. I think it really was a much better place with religion.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
It was almost a guide, you know, to a certain extent it was a guide. You want to be good to people. Without religion, there's no real, there are no guardrails. I'd love to see us get back to religion, more religion in this country.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
Look, I love the country. I want to see the country be great. And we have a real chance of doing it, but it's our last chance. And I appreciate it very much.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
No, it's cool. And about 20 guys that you pay a fortune to, right?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
Maybe equally, maybe both. I don't like losing and I do like winning. I've never thought of it as to which is more of a driving force.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
Well, they do have something different. The great champions have something very different, like the sports champions. And you have champions in other fields, but you see it more readily in sports. You see it over a weekend or you see it during a game. And you see that certain people stand out and they keep standing out. But it's there for you.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
It doesn't take a lifetime to find out that somebody was a winner or a loser. The sports thing is very interesting, but I play golf with different people, and there's a different mindset among champions. There's really a very different mindset. There's a different thought process. Talent-wise, sometimes you can't tell the difference in talent, but at the end of a seemed to win.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
And it's very interesting. Like as an example, Tiger or Jack Nicklaus, he was a phenomenal winner. And he does have a different way about him. And Tiger has a different way about him. And Michael Jordan. And there's never one, you would think that there'd be one way. Arnold Palmer was the nicest guy you'd ever meet. And then you have some champions that aren't really nice.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
They're just focused on doing their job. So you have, you know, there's not one type of person. But the one thing I would say that everybody seems to have in common is they're very driven. They're driven like beyond.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
They don't give up, but they do seem to be, you know, they have a passion that's maybe more than people that don't do as well. You've said that politics is a dirty game in the past. Yeah, it is a dirty game. It's certainly true.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
Well, you win the decade by getting the word out and by using sense. You have to have a feeling where it's going. You also have to have a feeling of what's right. You can't necessarily just go what's popular. You have to do what's good for a country if you're talking about countries or But you have to get the word out. And you have to just continuously, like, for instance, you have a great show.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
You have a great podcast. It's very well watched. And I'm sitting here and I do this. A lot of people see it. And I do other things. And a lot of people see that. And I go traditional also. You have traditional television, which is getting a little bit older and maybe less significant, could be less significant, I don't know. But it's changing a lot. The whole plane of platform is changing a lot.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
It's changed a lot in the last two, three years. But from a political standpoint, you have to find out what people are doing, what they're watching, and you have to get on. I just see that these platforms are starting to dominate. They're getting very big numbers. I did spaces with Elon, and they got numbers like nobody's ever heard before. So, you know, this is...
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
You wouldn't do that on like radio. You wouldn't do that, those numbers, no matter how good a show, you wouldn't do those numbers on radio. You wouldn't do them on television.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
Yeah, and they're different, very different. I have a lot of people that are in business that are successful, and they'd like to go over to politics. And then you realize they can't speak. They choke. You know, it's hard to make a speech in front of, let's say you're talking about a big audience, but I get very big audiences.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
And, you know, for many people, it's virtually impossible to get up and speak for an hour and a half and have nobody leave. You know, it's not an easy thing to do. And it's an ability. But I have many people that are very, very successful in business, would love to do what I did. And yet they can't pull the trigger. And in many cases, I don't think it would work almost for everybody.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
It's not going to work. It's a very tough thing to do. It's a big transition. And now if you talked about people in the business and politics going into business, likewise, that wouldn't generally work out so well either. It's different talents. It's different skills. I have somebody who wants to go into politics so bad, but he's got a little problem. He's got stage fright.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
Now, he's a total killer, but if he gets up into a stage in front of people, he doesn't do well, to put it mildly, actually. I mean, he does badly.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
Look, if you're a politician, you have to be able to speak in front of large crowds. A lot of people can't do that. I've seen it. They can't even think about doing it. And they don't. There are many people in business right now. I could name them, but I don't want to embarrass anybody. They've been talking about running for president for 15 years.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
And they're very big in business, very well known, actually. But it takes guts to run. Like for president, I can tell you, it takes guts. It's also a very dangerous profession, if you want to know the truth, but dangerous in a different sense, too. But it takes a lot of courage to run for president. It's not easy.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
But you have, and you know the same people as I do, there are a lot of people that would like to run for president that are very, very successful in business, but they don't have the guts to do it. And they have to give up a lot.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#442 – Donald Trump Interview
I think the deal, and I wouldn't talk about it too much because I think I can make a deal. If I win as president-elect, I'll have a deal made, guaranteed. That's a war that shouldn't have happened. It's terrible. Look, Biden is the worst president in the history of our country, and she's probably worse than him. That's something that should have never happened. But it did happen.
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York originally faced the most serious charges of the officers involved in the 2019 death of Ronald Green, including felony charges of negligent homicide and malfeasance. Body camera footage sparked public outrage, showing officers tasing, punching, and choking Green as he pleaded for mercy during a high-speed chase arrest.
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York can be seen dragging Green and forcibly restraining him face down for several minutes, actions some experts say likely restricted Green's breathing. Autopsies were ultimately inconclusive about the cause of death. In the plea deal, York agreed to testify against the last remaining officer awaiting trial and will serve a one-year probation. He will also retain his pension of $83,000 a year.
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The Joe Rogan Experience
#2193 - Jack Symes
I wouldn't want to get into it because to me that's very personal. You know, when I talk about the Bible, it's very personal. So I don't want to get into verses.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2193 - Jack Symes
The Bible means a lot to me, but I don't want to get into specifics.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2193 - Jack Symes
No, I don't want to do that. Are you an Old Testament guy or a New Testament guy? Probably... I think it's just an incredible... Yeah, Old Testament.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
You know, the funny thing, Joe, the Democrats, the people. They all think you should have it. In other words, you should have it. If you go to the people, Mrs. Schwartz, Mrs. Smith, Mr. and Mrs. Jones. Sure. They say, of course, yeah. Democrats, they say yes. It's the politicians that don't want it. Like Schumer and these guys, they don't want it. Because they want to be able to cheat.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Because you know what? If they didn't have it, okay. Who is going to vote for somebody that wants open borders? Who's going to vote for somebody that wants to have men playing in women's sports? You know, I have never had one person come up to me and say, President, you've got to do something to allow men to play in women's sports. Have you ever? Just like I've never been called by a pollster.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
I told you my little theory on pollsters, okay? I'm getting myself in trouble with some of these things, but I don't really care. Nobody's ever come up to me and said, we want to have men playing women's sports. And, you know, I had a funny thing at a property I own in California. I have a woman who's a very good athlete, and she works there as a manager.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
And Brian Urlacher, the big Chicago Bears, great player, you know, 10-time All-Star, I guess, Hall of Famer, great guy, big, strong guy. And she said, oh, he's one of my favorite athletes. Can I have a picture? And I took a picture and I sent it. And I noticed she was the size of his leg. His leg was bigger than she was. And I put it out. Should men play in women's football?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
But who wants it? Now, unless you're going to cheat in elections, you're never going to get it. Nobody wants it. I don't think anybody wants it. I've been told everything. Some people want this. I don't know of anybody that wants open borders. Nobody's ever come up to me and said, President, you've got to let the world come into our country. Now, if they won, so they have $21 million.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
I think it's much harder than that because you have gotaways. You know, gotaways where they just walk in. And the other thing you have is human traffickers. You have traffickers, and they're trafficking women. And they're going wild now. You know where you have to look? The trunk of cars. Can you believe it? They put women in trunks. They'll put three women in a trunk. These people are savages.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
They're horrible. The worst people. And they're making the kind of money they make on drugs they're almost making on trafficking now. And the thing that's made it hot is the internet. That's what, you know, you think of it almost as an ancient thing, but it's the internet. But who would want to have these things?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Who would want to have, there's so many, the transgender operations, where they're allowed to take your child when he goes to school and turn him into a male, to a female, without parental consent. Who wants this? Does anybody want this? I've never heard of anyone. And I can go into 10 different things. The only way they get them is by no voter ID. You can't have voter ID. They don't want any.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
They want to cheat. There's only one reason because the voter ID is so basic. It's the most basic thing.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Who would want this? They want it so they can cheat because their policies are no good. I'll tell you, they're very smart when it comes to that. They're very smart, although they're not smart in terms of politics, in a way, because what do they have that people want? They really don't have, they give away a lot of healthcare, a lot of stuff, but for the most part, their policies are terrible.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
You've never been a mayor. Private stuff. Business. Yeah.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Their policy on military, she's running on a tax hike. She's gonna raise your taxes. You gotta hear this. We are going to raise your taxes. And the people clap. But who is going to win? All my life I grew up with politicians, lower taxes. She's politicking that we are going to raise your taxes.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Well, the problem is that the rich people are going to leave and they're going to close up their companies and then the other people aren't going to have jobs. You know, that's what happens.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
The biggest thing was just that first moment of being in this hallowed – it was really a hallowed place to me. It was beyond – to me, that was the experience. It was a surreal experience. And then with time, that wears off. With time, it becomes, you know, your place where you stay. Right. I was doing a lot of – I had two things that I really focused on, governing the country and survival.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
But the whole – because you brought it up. I'll tell you what. We just – he's doing a very good job in Virginia, Glenn Youngkin. I don't know if you like him or not like him. I don't know him. But you don't know the governor of Virginia. So we have a case where they found thousands of illegal ballots. A judge just ruled that they have to be able to vote. Just happened today.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Just before I walked in here, I heard a judge just ruled that you have to keep those people in. They're illegal. They're illegal votes. Now, I think they'll be overturned at the next court. One thing I found, because I had a couple of things that they had overturned a little bit, you know, the system. Because the system, you have to hope that the appellate judges are honest.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Otherwise, we don't have a country anymore. It's very important. But the whole thing with the legal ballots, it's got to be looked at. You have to have voter ID, and you have to have additional ID. You have to have an ID that shows that you're a citizen of the country.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
So I opened them up partially. I was met with, from good people. I mean, you know, look, I mean, good people. People that were well-meaning. Mike Pompeo was one of them. He's a good person. They called me. They said, Sarah would rather have you not. After, and I did open them, but I was asked by some people not to open them.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
There's a Martin Luther King file too, by the way, that they'd like to see. I don't know if you know, but there is that. But JFK in particular. So they called me, a lot of good people called me. People that I, you know, that you would find reasonable people. And they asked me not to do it. So I said, well, we'll close it for another time. But if I win, I'm going to open them up.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Because a lot of times the hesitation addresses people that are still living. There are people that are affected. And there could be some national security reason that I don't have to necessarily know about. But some very good, talented people asked me not to do it. I opened it up and then they said, would it be possible for us to do that a different day? How much of it did you read into?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
I think it's going to be just fine to open it. Let me put it that way. I think it's fine. It's going to be time. It's a cleansing. You know, it's really a cleansing. So I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it immediately, almost immediately upon entering office.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Yeah. Well, when there are living people, you generally tend not to want to do it. When people are still living.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
for the government and living people that were somehow involved in it. And you tend not to do that. But it's time to open them. I can't tell you whether or not they're going to find anything of interest. And I did partially open. I think I've opened 50%. But I was asked not to do it. And I thought that was a reasonable ask. But now I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it very soon.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
There's a lot of interest in it. There's a lot of interest in the people coming from space, you know. Yes. And I know you're interested in that too.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
I think I can tell, you know. Tell me. Well, based on Hunter Biden, I can say whatever the hell I want, right? But no. No. But I interviewed a few people. It's never been my thing, I have to be honest. I have never been a believer. I have people that Area 51 or whatever it is. I think it's the number one tourist attraction in the whole country or something. Area 51. Do you know that, right? Sure.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
I know what it is. So anyway, but it's a big tourist thing. So I interviewed jet pilots. that say they saw something. If you saw them, you'd love to have them as you said.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
I don't believe his name, but I interviewed jet pilots that were solid people. Perfect. I mean, great pilots, great everything. And they said, we saw things, sir, that... were very strange. Like a round ball, but it wasn't a comet or a meteor. It was something. And it was going four times faster than an F-22, which is a very fast plane, you know.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Because from the moment I won, before I got to office, all of a sudden, I mean, they came down. I mean, nobody has ever been treated that way. And you see that. I mean, you see we're in the Washington Post very early on. They said, well, now the impeachment stuff starts. And it did. I mean, it literally started from the beginning. So I had survival and run the nation. I had a combination.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
A little bit. It's not a great interest for me, but it's a little interest. I get that question as much as almost any question. Do you think that we have aliens coming, you know, flying around or whatever? What do you think? There's no reason not to. I mean, there's no reason not to think that Mars and all these planets don't have life.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
The universe is pretty vast. It's not been a big thing for me. I mean, when I looked at what China did to this, they would have never done it with me, where they put the balloon up. And a lot of people thought for a little while that that was one of these things.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
But I did interview, let's say, three or four guys. And without tremendous interest, if you had them, As I said, you'd love to have me as your children. Solid, beautiful people. They said, sir, there's something there. You know, they've... There's something there.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
These pilots have to be in great shape. Oh, yeah. I flew with the Blue Angels once. Yeah, as an example. Yeah, I got to fly, I guess it's an F-18. And those are older machines. And they're crazy. When you fly in some of these things, it's amazing. Yeah, I can imagine. You've got to be special.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
I think I had a great relationship with the military, basically, but I didn't like certain people. I would have gotten them out if I thought, if the election was different, I would have fired all of them quickly. Most of them I did fire. Biden should have fired every military person involved with Afghanistan. He should have had a lot of firings.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
You know, if you look at him, he told Israel not to do anything. At least Israel is not going to look at a bomb the way they would have been. Think if they listened to Biden, they'd be waiting for a bomb to drop on their head right now. He's been wrong about so much. I guess you'd have to say that she's been wrong, too, because, you know, they she always said they made the decision together. But
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Israel didn't follow his advice. And I think it was a very, you know, it's a very, the Middle East is rapidly changing. You know, there are prophets that say the world will come to an end in the Middle East. You know that, right? And we have weapons today that are so scary. When you look, I rebuilt them all.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
And when you look at the weapons we have today, the biggest threat we have in the world today is nuclear weapons. And we have other weapons, too, that are devastated. the nuclear weapons, the biggest threat we have in the world today. I was talking about de-escalation with both China and Russia. I'm telling you, we were going to de-escalate. They were going to de-escalate. You got to be careful.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
It's a little tricky playing with them because they say we're going to do it and they don't do it maybe. But they understood the curse too. It's a curse. China's way behind us, but they'll catch us within five years.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Well, it's a very, to me it's an easy question because I think I can do it easily, but it's a complex question in the sense that the times change, every day changes. Who's winning, who's not winning? I mean, Russia's a war machine. Whether you like it or not, it just grinds along, grinds along. You speak to people like Viktor Orban, he'll tell you.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
It's just a big, fat war machine, and that's what's happening. You look at what's happened to Ukraine. If I were there, it would have never happened. But what could you do now? If you get into office in January, what could you do now? Right now, you would get both of them. I know both very well.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Well, you have actually 10,000 appointments. Now they're different. You have big ones and then they appoint 100 people and 200 people. Right. But the president really is involved with approximately 10,000 appointments. So you'll appoint a secretary of state, and he or she will appoint a lot of people. So it's a lot. But in terms of major ones, you probably have like 100. But they're big ones.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
And again, I do not want to tell you, for the purpose of looking smart to five people that say, oh, he was great, because if I told you exactly what I do, I could never make the deal. All I can tell you is that I would meet with Putin and I would meet with him, and I know exactly what I'd say to each one of them. And I believe that as president-elect, I would get that war stopped and stopped fast.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
You know, we have tremendous power in the United States if you know how to use the power. I stopped other wars just by the use of tariffs. I got Macron of France, good guys, like a friend of mine, but he's a wise guy. And he's a person that likes France, and he was gonna tax our companies. And I sent all the smartest guys, I sent Mnuchin, they all failed me. And I said, I'll do it myself.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
And I called him. I said, Emmanuel, you're taxing American companies. We're not going to allow you to do that. Oh, Donald, I cannot do it. Nothing I could do. It's already been passed. I said, Emmanuel, if you do that, I'm going to put 100% tariff on your wines and champagnes that come into the United States. And you're going to regret that you ever did it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
He said, Donald, please, that's not fair. Anyway, within about two minutes, he dropped the whole thing. And it was massive amounts of money against American companies. I have to protect American companies. So why doesn't the Biden administration do this? Because they're incompetent. They don't know how to talk. Look, they met in Alaska with the Chinese.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
And the Chinese lectured them about how badly we treat people. Right? Okay? I mean, think of it. You remember that? They didn't talk to me that way. They respected me. They respected our country. They don't respect our country. They don't respect Biden. They don't respect her. They're dreaming about her because she's incompetent. She's not a smart person.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Look, she can't put two sentences together. She talks. I watched her last night, too. It was the same thing. She's not a smart person. These guys are very smart, and they're very streetwise, and they're very tricky and evil and dangerous. And if she becomes the President of the United States, which I can't believe can happen, I don't think this country is going to make it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
I don't think we'll ever be. I think just really bad things will happen to our country. And you know what? I look at the outside forces and I say, they can all be handled because we have a pot of gold. But we're not gonna have that pot of gold to play with anymore. You know, it's a great negotiating thing.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
I told you, I knocked out this massive car company gonna take all of our car business from Detroit. I knocked it out just by my rhetoric. Rhetorically, I said, They'll never sell a car in here. I'll put tariffs. I don't care. They're 2,000%. They're never going to build that plant.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
You do it. But let me just say, that chip deal is so bad. We put up billions of dollars for rich companies to come in and borrow the money and build chip companies here. And they're not going to give us the good companies anyway. All you had to do is charge them tariffs. If you would have put a tariff on the chips coming in, you would have been able to, just like the auto companies, no different.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Treasury, state. And how did you know who to appoint? Well, I didn't. I had no experience. You didn't? So now I'm sitting there, I'm saying, this place is gorgeous, but you know, I don't know anybody. It's like you, you go to certain areas, and other areas, they may be great, Washington was great, Washington's not so great right now, we gotta fix it, we gotta make it better.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
More sophisticated, but no different. You know, Taiwan, they stole our chip business. Okay? They want us to protect, and they want protection. They don't pay us money for the protection, you know? The mob makes you pay money, right? But with these countries that we protect, I got hundreds of billions of dollars from NATO countries that were never paying us.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
And my biggest fan is Stoltenberg, who just left as the, you know, director general, as the secretary general. Good guy. He said Bush came, he made a speech. Obama came, he made a speech. Trump came, he said, you guys aren't paying, you got to pay. And they said, will you protect us from Russia if we don't? I said, no, you got to pay if you don't pay. Billions of dollars came in to NATO.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
When I see us paying a lot of money to have people build chips, that's not the way. You didn't have to put up 10 cents. You could have done it with a series of tariffs. In other words, you tariff it so high. that they will come and build their chip companies for nothing. In other words, Joe, you put a big tariff on the chips coming in. I say, you don't have to pay the tariff.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
All you have to do is build your plant in the United States. We didn't have to give them the money to build a plant. Besides that, they're very rich companies, these chip companies. They stole 95% of our business. It's in Taiwan right now. They do a great job. But that's only because we have stupid politicians. We lost the chip business. And now we think we're going to pay.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
You can't build it that way. You have to make them spend their money in the United States. And those plants would open up all over. And they'll fund them. We don't have to put up 10 cents. And I am in the process of making a huge speech in about a little while. And you and I, how long have we been talking? A long time. Let's go. Probably like three hours. I got to make a speech.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
But we'll do it again. I want to do it again with you. You are something. Thank you very much. I said, how long will this last? Anywhere from an hour to three or four hours.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Good. Well, we'll do it again. I thought it was great. I think it's— I think it was great.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
You are a fascinating guy. Thank you. And you've done a great job. Thank you very much. I'm a big fan, and thank you very much. It's been an honor. It's been an honor to have you on as well. I'm going to make a great speech, and I'm going to say—and if I'm a little off tonight, I'm going to blame you. Blame me. I spoke to this guy for three hours. Anyway, it's a great honor to be with you.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Thank you, sir. Good luck to you. Thank you very much. Thank you. Appreciate it. All right. Bye, everybody. Bye.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
A very dangerous place, very badly maintained place, we're gonna make it great, we're gonna make it better, we're gonna bring it back. But I wasn't a Washington guy, I was a New York guy. I was a New York builder and I built buildings in New York and I knew that whole world, but I didn't know the Washington world too well. And all of a sudden you're supposed to be appointing top people.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Well, I was always involved in politics, but usually from the standpoint of a donor. I was a donor. I was a big donor. I gave money to politicians. I enjoyed politics.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Both, really. Pretty much both. I actually have pictures of Ronald Reagan in me when I was very young.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
I was a Democrat. I could get you the exact. But the early 90s, the early 90s, I switched over eventually. Actually, they had a reform party. I was thinking about doing that for a little while. But then, fortunately, I didn't because it's very hard. You know, it's a two-party system. And anytime you hear third party, I know you like RFK Jr. and so do I. He's a fantastic guy.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
I do, but I thought that being an independent was nonsense. It doesn't work. It doesn't work because even if you do great, you're not going to get Congress. In other words, you need now to say, OK, now I'll get half of Congress. They're never going to vote for you. So even if you got there, which is very hard. And I know how you feel about Bobby, and I feel the same way, and he's now with us.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
The Apprentice was still going very strong. We had 12 seasons. And we had actually 14 seasons, 12 years over. They had a couple of them.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
But it's pure and simple. It's a two-party system. And somebody, I won't mention his name, but somebody spent $250 million trying to get the nomination as a Reform Party candidate or whatever, and they got just nowhere. You just get eaten. The system eats you alive. So it was really somebody that not only was new to Washington, but was new to politics. So...
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
In the office of the presidency, over the years, all those presidents, you've had 92% were politicians and 8% were generals. General Eisenhower, General Washington, right? General George Washington, he had generals. So it's 8%, no admirals, 8% generals. and 92% politicians. You know, they're politicians and they go on.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
So they never had a business guy or they never had a guy that wasn't elected to an office. They were all, like Ronald Reagan was really, he was a movie actor, but he became the governor of California for, I think two terms, and then he ran. So you'd never had a thing like this.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
But in terms of me, and sometimes I'd use it as an excuse, and I don't like having excuses, actually, but I'd use it as an excuse. I had to rely on people that I respected or liked, but that I didn't know that well, because I didn't know them that well.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Some of those people I campaigned against because when you have 18 people, we had mostly politicians running in the election, running in the primaries, and they got knocked out one by one. But I got to like some of them. Some of them I didn't like at all. I don't like them now. And I'd rely on them and I'd rely on other people. So all of a sudden people would come in.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
I'd like to recommend so-and-so to be secretary of state. And I'd have three, four people recommend. One thing I can tell you is everybody wants the position. Of course. No, no. But sometimes I'll hear a lot of people don't want to work with Trump because Trump is tough to work with, et cetera. Let me tell you. Everybody wants to be in any one of these positions. They'd die for it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
No, they had Arnold Schwarzenegger do it. I was involved in that. And I had enough of it. And we did great. It was doing great. But they wanted me to stay. They all came to see me. They said, we're going to give you a contract. They wanted to extend my contract. Mark Burnett is a great guy. And they wanted to extend the contract. Mark said, you're crazy. Don't run. Don't run.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Now, they don't want to be known. I mean, there's a particular guy in New York, primarily, very big, very big, very successful, very strong, very political, although he's not a politician. He'd give anything to be Secretary of State. But if they ask him, no, I don't think I would do it. But in the meantime, begging for it. Okay, begging. I believe you. Look, everybody wants it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
By the way, no matter what you do, but it's very dangerous to pick somebody outside of a politician because a politician has been basically vetted for years. Right. You pick a business guy. And they've never been vetted at all, and they're the head of a big company or something, but they've never been vetted. You know nothing about his personal life. You know nothing about where he's been.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
When you put them in, it's a little bit dangerous because all of a sudden they get checked up, and you hear things that you're saying, wow, this is not going to work out too well. So it's very dangerous. Picking people that are outside of politics is somewhat dangerous.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
And they're stiffs in many cases. Stiffs. They're survivors. I find that, you know— What do you mean by stiffs? When you say stiffs— They don't have nothing. They have nothing. Or— They're smart and survive. One little thing. So there was a congressman years before I ran, and I was very close to him. And I needed a license on something, and he was very important in getting the license.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
But it was a little bit controversial, the license, this particular thing that was being licensed. But I was close to this guy. and helped him and everything else. And I went to him, I said, I'd like to have your help. And he said, let me take a look at it. I said, oh, that's not too good, but I really hope you can help.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Anyway, he tapped me along for a long period of time and ultimately didn't do it. And I said, you are a stiff. You could have done this thing so easy, et cetera. But it was controversial. He was in Congress for many years, like 28 years. And, you know, there's a reason when somebody's there for 28 years, you've got to be sort of smart. Right. You know, you have all the scandals.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
And yet I don't disrespect him for it. I actually respected the guy more in a certain way. Because he did survive. You know what? He's been there like for 28 years and he made it through. A lot of people don't make it through.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Oh, yeah. I think so. The one question that you'll ask me that I think you'll ask me that people seem to ask. And I always come up with the same answer. Yeah. The one mistake, because I had a lot of success, great economy, great everything. Everything was great. The military rebuilt it. Biggest tax cuts in history. All this stuff. We did it. We had a great presidency.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Nobody gives up primetime, they said. You know, it's one of those little things, which is probably true.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Three Supreme Court justices. Most people get none. You know, you pick them young. This way they're there for 50 years, right? So, you know, even if a president is there for eight years, oftentimes they never have a chance. I had three. It was sort of the luck of the draw. But I will say that it always comes back to the same answer.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
The biggest mistake I made was I picked some great people, but you don't think about that. I picked some people that I shouldn't have picked. I picked a few people that I shouldn't have picked. And- Neocons? Yeah, neocons, or bad people, or disloyal people, or- People that were just bad.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Yeah. I mean, look, I mean, you're reading about them a little bit today. a guy like Kelly, who was a bully, but a weak person. You know more about bullies than anybody probably around because you deal in a certain sport where the bullies are exposed very quickly. But you know, he's bad. Bolton was an idiot, but he was great for me because I'd go in with a guy like a John Bolton.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
You know John Bolton? A friend of mine called me up. I was picking Bolton. He's a Very smart guy. His name is Phil Ruffin. He's a very rich guy from Las Vegas. He's a great card player. He doesn't play cards, but he's a great player. You know, he's just a natural. He's got poker sense, right? You know, good old poker sense.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
For running. Well, for running against 20-some odd people, you know. Turned out to be 18. 18 professional people, you know, mostly politicians. They said, who would do this? I mean, it's a long shot. Actually, the heads of NBC came over. Paul Telagny, all the top people came over to see me, try and talk me out of it because they wanted to have me extend. The Apprentice was doing well.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
And Phil Ruffin is a very, very wise kind of a guy and one of the richest people around and has had great success and understands people. So it was in that I was picking Bolton, or I picked Bolton. He called up. He said, don't pick him. He's a bad guy. Now, he wasn't in politics at all. He's in various businesses. He said, he's a bad guy. It always works out bad with that guy.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
And I said, oh, man, I wish you told me this two weeks ago. I already hired him. You know, he's here. And he was right. But he was good in a certain way. He's a nut job. And every time I had to deal with a country, when they saw this whack job standing behind me, they said, oh, man, Trump's going to go to war with us. He was with Bush when they went stupidly into the Middle East.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
They should have never done it. I used to say it as a civilian. So I always got more publicity than other people. And I didn't it wasn't like I was trying. In fact, I don't know exactly why. Maybe you can tell me.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
This is a very dangerous business, first of all. It's a very tough business. It's the most dangerous business. Well, for a job? Yes.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
It's the most dangerous. Being president is the most dangerous. Especially you.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
But I think he's in good shape because it's only consequential presidents. If you take a look at what's happened, look, I'm for having countries pay us billions and billions and trillions even dollars. I took in hundreds of billions of dollars from China. Nobody took in 10 cents, not one other president. I do things that make it, I mean, that don't necessarily make me so popular.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
So it was 14 seasons. It was 12 years. We had one, two seasons where we had a double, which rarely happens. It was just a hot show. And I said, you know, I want to do this. What happened is previously, like three years, four years before that, they did a poll. They had Mitt Romney and somehow they put me in a poll and I blew everybody away.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
I just do what's right. And when you do that, you know, you're more, look at Iran. We would have never had the attack on Israel at all. Iran was broke. I told China, if you buy, you can't do business in the United States under any circumstances. I was going to... We're going to go cold turkey with China. Some people think that would have been a good idea anyway.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
But if you buy any oil, one barrel of oil from them, you're not doing business. I said that to many countries. Iran was broke. They had no money for Hezbollah. They had no money for Hamas. But I make myself, you know, I mean, I understand what I'm doing. You make yourself a target. And it's a very dangerous business.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
But if you just look at statistically, so I sort of think, I don't know if it's right, but one-tenth of 1% for a race car driver. Yeah, it's a pretty dangerous business, right? One-tenth of 1%. For a bull rider, I tell you, to me, these guys that ride the bulls is worse than UFC.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
These guys, you see these big monster bulls and you see it in slow motion where the foot is like, you know, an inch away from the head. If it hits him, the guy's gone. But they die. You know, they die. So one tenth of one percent die. Yeah. One tenth of one percent die. Right. And they certainly get hurt badly. Really. I mean, they can't walk after a certain period of time.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
But but with a president. If you look at... The amount of assassination attempts. And attempts, too. And attempts. No, it's a very dangerous position. I never thought of that, by the way, when I did it. You know, you don't tend to... Do you just assume because people loved you on The Apprentice, they were going to love you as a president? Well, I figured it would be so easy.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
But they don't even have to take them out. They make them up entirely. They do that, too. But, you know, it's interesting. When you mentioned the—I was very popular, and all those people loved me. I mean, this—
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
I blew him away, which isn't that hard, frankly, but I blew everybody away. And I said, that's interesting because I never really gave it that much real thought. I thought about it, but never real thought. But I saw these polls were very good. And so I was thinking about doing it then, but I had a contract with The Apprentice.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
seven central on paramount network and they're so they're so stupid and joy she would every time she'd see me like i'd be in the theater or something and she's you have to be on the show again come on come on let's go we have she loved you
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Whoopi loved me. Loved you. Gives you a hug and a kiss. And how about that other one, the new one on there, the one from my administration? She writes me a letter. You're the greatest president. She leaves. You know, she worked as like an assistant press secretary. I hardly knew her. But she leaves and she writes me this gorgeous letter. What's her name? She was, I don't even know.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Anyway, she was in the administration. She's on there currently. Sits in the far right-hand side, whatever the hell her name is. And she writes a letter, the most beautiful letter. She's quoted in the paper. He's a consequential, he was the greatest president, blah, blah, blah. Then all of a sudden she goes in the view and she starts hitting the hell out of me.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Because they won't hire her unless, I've had many people go on CNN and they call and said, I don't know what to do. They want to pay me a lot, but I have to be negative on you. I said, be negative. That's okay. There are guys like CNN. They won't hire them. Sean Duffy is a congressman, and he retired. He got a good job with CNN, but he was only positive about Trump.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
So they kept him, but they would never put him on. I mean, I respect what he did. He could have gone negative. I tell people, go negative. Let my friends make the money. It's so crooked. The press is so crooked.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
The worst I've ever seen, though? And I've seen the worst. I mean, I've been a part of it. I've seen the worst. Kamala goes on 60 Minutes, gave an answer that a child wouldn't give. It was so bad. And 60 Minutes took the answer out. They took the whole... And they put another answer in.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Which didn't make sense either, but it was better. They took the... Well, it wasn't editing. It was fraud. This was not editing. Editing is where I'll give an answer and they'll take a couple of words and change them around. Or they might even take a sentence or two off, which is very bad. But that's... It's sort of bad. You know, I'd give an answer, which was a very good answer.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Plus, I was building two big buildings at the time, and I wanted to make sure they got finished up properly. And it was one of those things. The kids were just sort of getting involved. They're very capable kids, but they were getting involved early on. So I did that. I got them done. I had some very good successes.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
I always talk about, you know, I like to give long the weave. You know, I like to. Yeah.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
But when you do the weaves and you have to be very smart to do with when you do the weave. Look at this. Just in this one thing we're talking about little pieces. But it always ends up. No, no. It comes back home for the right people, for the wrong people. It doesn't come back home and they end up in the wilderness. Right. But they can take my answer. And you know what?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
They may take a little piece of it out or something. And they use the term, yes, we want to save time. Well, it's not right. But I've never heard. I think it's the biggest scandal in broadcast history, what happened to CBS. So you have CBS 60 Minutes. That's a news program. It's not an entertainment program. It's under their news. It's the head of their news thing.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
She gives an answer that shows that she's essentially incompetent. And they took the answer. Could you imagine them doing that for me?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Some kid put the preview out. Exactly. And then the bosses did this or that. And then all of a sudden they said, we got a problem.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
But don't you think that's a big—to me, and don't forget, this is election interference and fraud. And it's 60 Minutes. It's their news division. It's a big deal. They give those licenses out, Joe, for free. They should pay a fortune. They're worth a fortune. They give them out for free because they're using the public airwaves. With cable, you don't have that. Cable's different.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
But, you know, it's just a different deal. But with the networks, they give those licenses. They're worth billions of dollars. They give them out free. But you have to be honest and all. That was bad. I think that David Muir and that woman that was a site, I never even heard of her, but They kept interrupting me. It was like, I said, how many people am I debating here?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
I got this one and I got you two. But he went after me 11 different times. You know, it's interesting. I always thought he was a nice guy, but he's just like the rest of them, you know?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
And I came on and then I thought about it for the next one after the Romney disaster. And I ran and I won against Hillary. And it was quite an experience. But it was a different life because you're right, the view. I was on the view many, many times. And they loved me.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Well, Joe, when I said crime is soaring, he said, no, no, crime has gone down. I said, where did you hear that one? Crime has gone down. I mean, I'm debating with this guy.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
And by the way, the statistics were a fraud because when they put out the statistics, they didn't include some of the worst places. They didn't include some of the worst cities, some of the most deadly places. But when the real numbers came out, I turned out to be right.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
It's so sad what's happened. And I'll tell you what, I go to police funerals and we went to one in Long Island. I visited the family in Long Island, a very big deal. It's so dangerous. People don't realize. The car, dark windows, pull over. He's a gentleman. Please pull over. Door opens, guy comes out firing. Even if they were allowed to pull out their gun, which they're not.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
They can't pull out their gun. Do it in time. They still wouldn't have time. It's every cop's worst nightmare. They open a door, and he was killed, and his partner was hurt. He was killed. And you don't even have an eighth of a second to think. And it is such a dangerous job. That in particular. Think of it. You go up to a car. You don't know who's sitting there with a gun.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
And if they have a gun, you really don't have a chance. You're not allowed to have your gun out, by the way. They have very strict rules. So number one, but even if you could have your gun out, the door opens and bullets start firing out, and especially where they have the dark windows, where they have the darkened windows.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
It is such a dangerous profession, and it's very hard to get cops now because they're not given any backup. And you're right. You know, they have like an eighth of a second to make a decision that's going to change their life.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
If they make the wrong decision, they're going to end up on the front page of every newspaper in the country and they're going to lose their house and their pension and their job and their wife is going to be gone and everything is going to be gone.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
But we have to give them back their dignity. We just have to give them back. You said it so good. You never hear anybody say that. You're never going to have it perfect. You're going to have a bad apple.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
But every time there's a bad apple, that gets massive publicity, and it taints everybody else.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Go ahead. She was a big part of Defund the Police. That was a big thing for her, Defund the Police, always Defund the Police.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
But anybody with that political thought, I don't think should be running for president. And I think people are getting wise to it. You know, we're doing pretty well. Now, I don't know. Maybe in a week from now, say, sorry about that. I was wrong. But we're leading everything. And I think we're going to have a very good election. But I tell people because people are starting to get to know her.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
But she was defund the police. She was all these transgender operations. You know, if you wanted a sex change and you were in detention and you demanded a sex change.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
But she was in favor of it. So think of it. Now she changed. She changed 15 policies. In fact, I'm going to send her a MAGA cap.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
I came up with this idea that, honestly, nobody ever heard of. Now, it took her two months, but you know what?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
I think we still have that issue. I think that issue is a good one for us. But, no, we have a lot of good issues. You know, we had the other day—think of how simple some of these things are. We're trying to get cars built in the United States. Detroit has been really tough. It's been a disaster. They have a huge factory, a huge car auto plant being built by China in Mexico.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Make cars, sell them in the United States, put everybody out of business, right? Here we go again. I said, if that plant is there when I'm president, I will put 100% or 200% tariffs on every car. They'll be unsaleable in the United States. And they just announced they're not going to build the plant because they think I'm going to win. Think of it. They're not going to build the plant.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
This was the biggest plant in the world. More than all of Michigan makes. That's how big. You know, this is what we're getting to. And I said, if that plan goes up, I want them to understand if I win, I'm going to tax those cars at the rate of 100 or 200% a piece so that you won't be able to sell them in the United States. They just announced they're not going to build the plan.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
And they support me now. Bill Ackman supports me. He's been very supportive too.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
I did a big favor for our country by doing that. And I'm not even there yet. To me, the most beautiful word, and I've said this for the last couple of weeks, in the dictionary today, is the word tariff. It's more beautiful than love. It's more beautiful than anything. It's the most beautiful word. This country can become rich with the proper use of tariffs.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Well, okay. Are we serious about that? Yeah, sure. But why not? Ready? Our country was the richest relatively in the 1880s and 1890s. A president who was assassinated named McKinley. He was the tariff king. He spoke beautifully of tariffs. His language was really beautiful.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
We will not allow the enemy to come in and take our jobs and take our factories and take our workers and take our families unless they pay a big price. And the big price is tariffs. And he'd speak like that, but he was right. And then around in the early 1900s, they switched over stupidly to frankly an income tax. And you know why? Because countries were putting a lot of pressure on America.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
We don't want to pay tariffs. Please don't. You know, believe me, they control our politicians. If you look at the kind of numbers that these guys make then and now. But we had a commission meeting in the, I think it was 1887. Think of this problem. We were so rich. We had so much money. We didn't know what to do. So they set up a blue ribbon commission on tariffs.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
And the sole purpose is what to do with all the money we had. We were so rich because we were taxing other people for coming in and taking our jobs. And China does it. That's what China did. If you want to open a factory and sell cars, if you build a factory here or have a factory, they don't take our cars. They wouldn't take our cars. But if you build a plant in China, you can do that.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Elon did that. By the way, Elon is great. That guy is such a great guy. I think you're a fan of Elon. He is from a different planet. He's the greatest guy. That rocket coming in. I told the story once or twice. So you may have heard it because his speeches have been good. Did you see the one last night? Yeah. 29,000 people. And the one the night before was the same thing.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
We are rocking and rolling. But Elon, and I'm talking to this very important guy. I said, wait a minute. I'm looking at something. The television's unmuted, right? And I see this rocket. It's all brown from the heat. It's like 10,000 degrees pouring down at thousands of miles an hour. And I see this thing, you know, it's like a 20-story building.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
And I say to this guy, he's an important guy, wait a minute, let me just put you down, hold it, I gotta see this. And I see this, and it's gonna crash. I say, it's gonna crash into the gantry, they call it a gantry. I said, oh man, that's gonna be a disaster, because it's starting to get very close.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
And then all of a sudden you see the flames in the bottom, and boom, and then you see the two arms grab it. And I forgot the guy, I had him on the phone. No, I called Elon, I said, was that you? He said, that was me. And I said, who else can do that? He said, nobody. Russia can't do it. The United States, nobody can do it. You know, I set up Space Force. That was me.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
So when I was in and won and was in the White House, essentially. Yes. Well, first of all, it was very surreal. It's very interesting. When I got shot, it wasn't surreal. That should have been surreal. When I was laying on the ground, I knew exactly what was going on. I knew exactly where I was hit. They were saying you were hit all over the place because there was so much blood from the ear.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
And that's the first time in 82 years that we opened another branch since the Air Force. And that's going to be one of our most important things. But think of what Elon does. And he did one other thing that I never heard of it. It's Starlink. I went down to North Carolina, Georgia, the different places. I followed it right down. And they had no communication. The polls were all knocked down.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
And one of the guys in North Carolina said, could you do me a favor? Do you know Elon Musk? Yes. He endorsed me. By the way, he gave me the nicest endorsement, too. He said, the country's going to fail. You should do the same thing, Joe, because you cannot be voting for Kamala. Yeah. Kamala, you're not a Kamala person. I know you. I've watched you. I know him better than he is. You know what?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Without speaking to you, I think I know you maybe almost as well as your wife. I have watched you for so many years. You're not a Kamala person. You're a Khabib person, but you're not a Kamala person. Nobody's going to know who Khabib is, but he was not bad, right? Oh, he was phenomenal. But that's your kind of person.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
We're getting wide with this weave. I want to bring it back to tariffs. But wait one second. Before we finish with tariffs, so they said, could you get him? We need Starlink. And I call Elon. He got it for him so fast, saved so many lives. And I said, how was it? They said, better than the wires. You know, they couldn't put them in. They were all gone.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
We're spending, just to show you, we're spending a trillion dollars to get cables all over the country, right? Up to upstate areas. where you have like two farms and they're spending millions of dollars to advocate.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
And he wanted to do that. And he wanted to do it. How about this? They built the charger stations, right, in the Midwest. They built eight of them. They cost $9 billion. That's like a gas pump, right? They built nine gas pumps, except electricity comes out. They spent $9 billion. Three of them don't work. The whole thing, there's so much waste.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
I could sit here and tell you about things that there's so much waste, abuse, and fraud.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Okay. We were ready to rock. You know, I had a bad system. We had horrible tax policy. I made it great. with a much lower tax rate. So I took it from almost 40% down to 21%. Now I'm bringing it from 21% down to 15%, but only if you make your product in the United States, which is great. People call me, they said, what a great idea. Nobody ever heard of that before.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
I don't care if they make the product in Japan. Why should I give up? So it's a 21%. At 21%, In the first year, we took in much more revenue than we did at almost 40. Think of that. It inspired. Now, we had other things, too. We were able to get people to bring back their money. You couldn't bring back your money. If you had money in Europe, like Apple, Apple had many billions of dollars outside.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
You would know that better than anyone. When they get the ear torn up. Ears bleed a lot. Anyway, so and I was thinking the other day. When that happened, I really knew where I was. I knew exactly what happened. I said I wasn't hit anywhere else. With the presidency, it was a very surreal experience. What's day one like? You win. You get inaugurated.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
There was no way to bring it back in. the bureaucracy, the documents, the whole thing. And also the tax was too high. They wanted like half of it or something. Nobody's gonna do that. So they leave their money in Japan and they spend their money there. That was part of what I did. The money came pouring back in. Apple took in hundreds of billions of dollars. They brought it back from overseas.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
So what happened is this. We were ready to rock and roll, and then we had the COVID thing, and we had to focus on that. And if we didn't give some businesses a hand, you would have had a depression like in 1929. But we were ready to start. We were going to, we would have very shortly been paying off debt. You know, we have $35 trillion in debt. And I'll never forget it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
We were, it was talking about from, you know, the standpoint of being in office. I'm in the Oval Office and I have John McLaughlin and Fabrizio, they're two very good pollsters, probably, I don't know, I would say the two best, who knows, but very good pollsters. And we're starting to think about running for a second term. And we had the greatest economy in history.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Two things. And also I cut regulations more than anybody else. And I asked many of the businessmen from the big companies, the guys running the big companies, I'd say, so if you had your choice, you've had it now for a long time, what's more important to you, the tax cuts, you paid less tax, or the regulation cuts? Every one of them said the regulation cuts meant more.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Who would think that, right? Because you don't equate it to dollars, but it actually is more dollars. We had it going and then we just had to focus on something else. But they were sitting there, these two pollsters were sitting there and they said, sir, if George Washington came back, And Abraham Lincoln was his VP, as opposed to Waltz. How bad is he, by the way?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
But if Abraham Lincoln was his VP, they couldn't beat you. And I'll never forget it. The following day, they said, something's happening in China, sir. Could we meet? I said, what's happening? People are dying. And it was all around the Wuhan lab, by the way. there are pictures with little lines, they're body bags, all around the Wuhan lab. And I always said that from the beginning, Joe.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
They tried to say, first they said it was France and they blamed everybody. But then they say it was bats from a cave 2,000 miles away. So we got hit with that. And despite that, we had the best economy. And when I gave it over, the stock market was higher than it was pre-COVID. I mean, nobody could even believe it. But we saved it. And we were helping businesses. They were dying.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
And that was the strategy. If we didn't have COVID, we would have been paying off debt and we would have had. And don't forget, by growth, the word growth is actually more important in a way because you could have the same debt. But if you doubled your growth, all of a sudden you're under levered. But still, we should pay off debt. You know, if you viewed this $35 trillion right now, it's a lot.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
But if you look at the asset value, if you looked at it purely as an asset value, we have oil underground, we have water, we have mountains. I mean, the assets are so enormous. But regardless of that, we've got $35 trillion in debt. We should pay it off. And we would have started paying off debt and probably even given further tax reductions. I want to get it down to 15%.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Yeah, that's what happened. So I'm driving down Pennsylvania Avenue. I just built a building on Pennsylvania. You know, the hotel, the old post office it was. We called it Trump National Hotel. And we sold it to the Waldorf Astoria. And it was a wonderful thing. But I'm driving down. I'm passing the hotel. You've never seen so many motorcycles, police, military. You know, it was a major thing.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
We're going to do more business. But when you get hit with a COVID, everything stops and you have to keep these businesses alive. The businesses were dying. I mean, they were just dying. This whole place, this country was going to die.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Yeah. Yeah. So the environmental is the biggest tool for stopping growth, the biggest tool. The other is regulation. And if you speak to Elon, he said the regulation now to send a rocket up to anywhere, even if you do everything, it's almost, it's becoming impossible. But they used environmental in order to get people not to do anything.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
And sometimes I say, you know, I look at some of the, I know the environmental stuff better because I had to build buildings in New York. I had to build, I had to do environmental impact studies. And I would see some of these guys that I'd hire for a lot of money, environmentalists that would get you through the process. And they'd be up in Albany, that's the capital of New York.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
And they're up there trying to make it tougher for guys like me. that were builders because they get paid more money. In other words, I had one guy, highly recommended. You know, I was good at getting permits. I was one of the kings of, I was always very good. But the environmental stuff was always horrible. They could slow a project down 10 years, 15 years.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
I had a project in Louisiana built, big LNG plant. It was for 14 years, it was gonna cost $18 billion, one of the biggest, like the Empire State Building, laying down on the side times four. massive on the coast, on the Gulf Coast. And they said, sir, they're going to give it up. I said, they shouldn't give it up. What's the problem? They can't get their environmental.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
They had environmental permits that would fill this whole room up to the ceiling. And they said there was one mistake on one little line. They wanted to do it all over again. I said, it's not going to happen. And I got them their permit instantly. And they built the plant. It's massive.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
No, I'm talking about environmental consultants and lawyers.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
Absolutely. And how do they profit? And I'd probably do the same thing about them, to be honest with you. As a businessman.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
and they convince people that if you have a certain type of plant on the ground that's this big in theory, valueless, that it's a rare plant and you cannot even touch it. You can't go near it. You can't put a building on it. You can't do anything. Or there's a little puddle and they call it a lake. And you have to go by the standards of a lake. I said, no, no, that's a puddle.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Oh, you have no idea. Guys are filling a little puddle. You have no idea what they do. And they use it as a way to stop you.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
But some of them are just bad guys, and they're trying to make it more and more difficult.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
Yeah, I think they maybe had more. They didn't have as much with me because I would get through them. And I understood it. Look, I've done so many, they call it environmental impact study. I did so much to build a building. To build a building in New York is very tough. You gotta deal with, think of it, financing, unions, all the municipal stuff, environmental.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
I got off really the first time I used Air Force One. Landed. And we're coming down and it was very beautiful. I mean, it was incredible. And we're going down Pennsylvania Avenue in the opposite direction. You know, normally you're used to going one way and all of a sudden you're going the other way.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Of all of it, to me, the toughest thing was the environmental. Because they could stop you cold with the environmental impact study stuff. And you hire a so-called expert. They say, sir, he's the one guy. He can get you through the morass. It's a morass. It's horrible. They use it as a weapon. They use it all over the country.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
You do. Look, I had during our four years, we had the cleanest air and the cleanest water. I view it differently. I say air, And water. Remember this. It costs much more to do things environmentally clean. China doesn't do anything.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
When Kerry goes to see President Xi at China, which he probably doesn't even get to see him, but they look at him, oh, yes, yes, we will do, oh, yes, yes, we're going to do that. No more coal, no more coal. And then they approve 58 coal plants for the next, you know, every, they build a coal plant a week.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
But let me just tell you, though. So here we are cleaning and scrubbing everything and everything's got to be pure. But in 3.8 days, that stuff floating over China is right over the top of us.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Same thing with the oceans. They dump their garbage into the Pacific Ocean. If you take a little cork and put it there, in about a week and a half, it'll be in front of Los Angeles. We're picking up their garbage. So nobody ever talks about that. But in a way, the bigger one is even the air. It's the currents. It's an amazing thing. It's been flowing that way for a million years or long before.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Long before we were there. We share air with the whole world.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
But we get the China, you know, they call it the China curse. We get the China curse. They're better. And their air is dirty. You know, when I went there, I had a great relationship with President Xi. We got along very well. And they treated me better than anybody's ever been treated. Same thing with Saudi Arabia. A number of them. But they laid it out. And I said, this air is good.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Do you know they closed every factory one week before I got there from within 200 miles?
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#2219 - Donald Trump
Isn't that terrible in a way? To think, you know, he cleaned it up and then it became a pigsty.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
The street was loaded up and I wanted to go out and I wanted to wave to everybody, but that wasn't smart. You know, the kid's a little bit dangerous, right? I mean, when you watch like Kennedy and some others, right? Yeah. But I really felt, I don't know, the love was so crazy. And so I did get out of the car for a brief, you know, just for a very short walk. I thought it was very important to do.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
It went right back. But in a way, that was a bad thing that he did because he showed what a disgrace that was. What a disgrace.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
But let me give you one that you may not know. Okay. Which I think you know everything, actually.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
That's not true. As a student of yours. But water. You know, in Los Angeles, you can't get proper amounts of water. Right. And it's unbelievably expensive. And you might have a house in Beverly Hills, and they're actually thinking about rationing water. Can you believe it?
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#2219 - Donald Trump
I used to live there. And I was in the farm court country with some of the congressmen. We're driving up a highway. And I say, how come all this land is so... barren, it's farmland, and it looked terrible. It was just brown and bad. I said, but there's always that little corner that's so green and beautiful. They said, we have no water. I said, do you have a drought? No, we don't have a drought.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
And Melania got out with a beautiful dress on that became sort of a staple. People loved it. And Baron and we're walking down the street. But where it really got... Amazing. We get to the White House, and now it's a little bit before dark. Beautiful. And we went up to the president's quarters. They call them the presidential quarters. And I'm standing in this beautiful hallway.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
I said, why don't you have no water? Because the water isn't allowed to flow down. It's got a natural flow from Canada all the way up north, more water than they could ever use. And in order to protect a tiny little fish, the water up north gets routed into the Pacific Ocean. Millions and millions of gallons of water gets poured. You've got to see this.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
We're driving up, and I had never seen it before. It's like Iowa. It's the most fertile land. Iowa's blessed with great land. Idaho for a potato, right? By the way, some land is good for a potato, some land is good for corn. It's the craziest thing. I love the farmers. They're great. They're the greatest. And by the way, they're getting killed right now. They are.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
They're getting killed because of this stupid administration. But So I see this, and I said, you've got to be kidding. I said, you mean you have water? And I looked at it. It's like a valve in your sink, except it's massive. The thing's five times taller than your ceiling. Did you know the center of California was a giant lake? They have so much water.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
Think of those dry forests that burned down all over. You know, the head of Austria said, you know.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Imagine that. That would be much more valuable property. How crazy is that? But how crazy is that?
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#2219 - Donald Trump
No, they let it go into the Pacific and then they did something.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
But think of it. It's a big one to go dry. You could have all of the water you need. All of that land would have more water. The whole thing could be like that little patch. Literally, I'd say I was with Devin Noon as a congressman and other congressmen were going up. I was visiting that because they asked me to go up and visit their territory, and I did.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
But I kept saying, look at this land, it's beautiful, but it's so dry. And I thought they were going through like a desert, like a drought. They said, no, we have water, but it gets real. So I looked into it. And I got it done. I got it done. I could have water for all of that land. Water for your forests. You know, your forests are dry as a bone, okay? Dangerous. That water could be routed.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
You know, you could have everything. Not only dangerous. Billions of dollars a year they spend on forest fires. And, you know, there's a case with the environment. They're not allowed to rake their forests because you're not allowed to touch it. When a tree falls down, after 18 months, it becomes very dry. It's like, you know, like real firewood. It's bad.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
You know, a tree that's up, these are all things I... learned the hard way, the easy way. But when a tree is up, it sucks water, it's wet. I went to that, they had a couple of horrible forest fires in California, and I went, I said, you know, you had a lot of trees standing. Yes, they were healthy trees, sir.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
I said, with this intense heat, you could see they were charred a little bit on the bottom, but they were gonna be all right, because they're soaking wet, because they suck up the water, right? But when they fall, they're like, you know, it's like lighting a match.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
And you've got to be able to clean. They call it maintain your forest. So I was with the head of Austria. He said, you know, it's a shame. I see all those forest fires in California, and all they have to do is clean their forest, meaning rake it up, get rid of the leaves, get rid of, you know, leaves that are sitting there for five years.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
And get rid of the trees that have fallen, you know, or like... So many things this country... By the way, I had it all done.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Yeah, I think that's the real issue, is the deadfall. You know, environmentally, they don't want to do that. They said, you know, it's got to be nature and all this stuff. But in the meantime, this is exactly... But you could have, so... It was the Department of Commerce that needed the approvals, but Gavin Newsom had to sign them. I got it all done. Nobody could believe it. It was all done.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
I said, I got it. You got so much water. All you have to do is sign. And that guy didn't want to sign.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
You know, it's funny. Nobody ever talks about the White House as being beautiful inside. You know, you think it's going to be everything's going to be all metal doors and stuff. It's not. It's so beautiful. I made my money largely on luxury. The hallway is like 25 feet wide. The ceiling heights are every it's so beautiful.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
No, I don't think so. You know, he used to say he's a great president and we got along. We did. We actually got along at that point. But I think somebody said you just can't continue to call him a great president. You know, they do say that. But we had it all done. He didn't sign. And then we got on to other things. And every time I go to California, you have so much water. They don't know it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
I'm telling you, people living in Beverly Hills, they turn off the water. Same thing with the electric. They want to go to all electric cars, but they have brownouts every weekend.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
I will terminate the mandate immediately. That will be done, I would say, in my first day, maybe two days.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
Or Fukushima. Well, you're not supposed to enter the land for 3,000 years or something.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Well, you look at the way the battery is made. But here's the other thing. We don't have... Well, we do, actually. It's being held. You know, we have certain areas where we have great raw earth material, and we're not allowed to use it because of the environment. And we have areas in California that have incredible raw earth, and they're not allowing... And I'm going to open it up.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
Because the environment is going to be protected. You can do it. You can make a lake out of it. Okay, we'll put back a lake. I mean, something nice about lakes. You can do things magnificently. You just have to do it carefully and responsibly. Absolutely. You have to do it carefully. But the problem, you know, China has... All of those areas, most of those areas.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
And yet when they say go electric with the cars, China is going to be the one that gives us the cars. All of those guys in Detroit are going to be out of business. You're going to make your electric cars over there. We have a thing called gasoline, and we have more oil and gas under our feet than any other nation. You know, I had in Alaska, there's a find. It's called ANWR. I got it approved.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
But I was standing there and I said to the guys, I want to see the Lincoln bedroom. I had never seen the Lincoln bedroom. I'd heard about the Lincoln bedroom. And I was standing with my wife. I said, do you believe it? This is the Lincoln bedroom. I mean, it was like.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
Reagan couldn't get it. Nobody could get it. I got it all done. It was amazing. They were getting ready to start drilling. The equivalent, they think, of Saudi Arabia, one of the biggest finds in the world. It was all set to go. And Biden comes in. One of his first orders were, we're not going to use it. It would have been so good for the... We could have supplied all of Asia. With oil and gas.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
And you talk about money. Right. The negative was politically they didn't think it was good for them. That's all.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
Taking it from way down deep in the earth, environmentally it would have been fine. So it can be done responsibly? Absolutely. Oh, otherwise. The point where it protects the environment. Well, I think windmills. Okay. So they talk about windmills. That's a good point. I think windmills are really disruptive. When you talk about the environment, they kill the birds. You want to see a bird cemetery?
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#2219 - Donald Trump
Go under a windmill someday. that hasn't been cleaned out with all the bird carcasses. It's like massive amounts of birds.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
Most expensive form of electricity is a windmill. And then they start to rust and rot. And you have to replace them? And then they get abandoned by the people that built them.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
By the way, they say you can't bury them. So I even question that, but I'm not going to get into it. But they say you can't bury the blades. So you have the blades, and you can't bury the blades. You can bury the blades. It's terrible. It's not going to matter. You'll find areas you can bury. But they come up. This is what I mean. They come up with this.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
But the environmentalist dream is windmills everywhere. You know what happens to them? After five years, they start to rot. After 10 years, you have to replace them. Did you ever look at certain parts of California where they have heavy windmills and they've been abandoned? And they're all different manufacturers in all different companies. I haven't seen that. It is the ugliest thing.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
It looks like a graveyard almost, a graveyard of windmills. It's pollution. It's so bad.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
How about in New Jersey, off the coast of New Jersey, they want to build. The people are going crazy not to build them. But we have them. The whales are washing up on shore. So in 50 years, they had one whale come ashore. Now they had like 18 come in the last year.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
Well, they say that the wind drives them crazy. You know, it's a vibration because you have those. You know, those things are 50-story buildings, some of them.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
You know, the wind is rushing. The things are blowing. It's a vibration, and it makes noise. You know what it is? I want to be a whale psychiatrist. It drives the whales freaking crazy. And something happens with them. But for whatever reason, they're getting washed up on shore. And yet the environmentalists— Conveniently ignored by the environmental people.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
Yeah, but the environmentalists, they don't talk about it. I think there's nothing uglier. I see it in Scotland. I see it all over the world. You have this beautiful valley. It's been there for, you know, in civilization, thousands of years, but millions of years. And all of a sudden you have these ugly windmills up.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
Well, nuclear is bad. I mean, I think there's a little danger to nuclear. But, you know, we had some really bad nuclear. They did one in Alabama. They did one in, I think, South Carolina. They do them wrong. They build these massive things. Then the environmentalists get in. I don't want to go into a long story because it's too long for the show. This show is too valuable to talk about concrete.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
But they have hardened concrete. It's number 12 concrete. It's harder than steel. It's incredible. They put up a wall and an inspector comes along and goes, nope, nope, you're a quarter of an inch. The wall might be eight feet wide. You're a quarter of an inch too short. I'm sorry, you've got to rip down the wall because it's got to be poured contiguously, right?
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#2219 - Donald Trump
You're one quarter of an inch, I'm sorry, ripped down. You can't rip it down. This stuff, you can't put a hammer through it. You can't. It's incredible. Concrete technology is unbelievable, you know, what's happened. You think of concrete.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
Yeah, pointless over-regulation. Well, you have an inspector that comes along and he says, take down a $25 zillion wall. These things ended up costing $25 billion. And one of them never got opened. But here's the story. So... France does it. France is largely nuclear, and they build small, little, compact plants.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
And if they need more, they build the same thing, and they hook it up, and they hook it up, because they get too big and too complex and too expensive. And it is very clean. They say it's absolutely... You know, my uncle, I had a great uncle who was a great genius, just like other members of my family. But he was a professor at MIT for, I think, 41 years. He was the longest-serving.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
When I was in the White House, the head of MIT, Princeton, and Harvard came down to meet me. And the MIT person said, I have a book on your uncle, Dr. John Trump. He was our longest-serving professor. He was a great genius, sir. Do you know how? And he knew everything about nuclear... From math to chemistry to nuclear, he knew it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
And he said, someday it's going to be the way to go, but the problem is it's so dangerous in terms of war. He said, Donald, someday, and this was a long time, Uncle John, Dr. John Trump, he said, someday you'll have a little satchel at your side and you'll go into a building and you'll be able to blow up New York City. I said, Uncle John, that'll never happen. He's right. You know, he's right.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
The biggest problem in the world today is not global warming. It's nuclear warming. And we have idiots that are negotiating for us. We have a guy that doesn't make it past four o'clock. And it's not because of age. I know so many guys in their late 80s and they're better than them. I said to one guy the other day, I think you're smarter than you were 25 years ago. I've known him a long time.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
He's 89 years old. He's sharp. I mean, he's great. Biden gives people a bad name because that's not an old. That's not an age. I think they say it because I'm three or four years younger. You know, I think that's why they say it. They say his age. It's not his age. He's got a problem. Two major brain surgeries. He did. He did.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
You know, it's interesting because during the debate – I was looking over, I'm saying, hmm, this is strange. It's just sort of like strange things were happening.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
I think they wanted to get... Well, there's a lot of theories. A lot of people said, do the debate now and we'll get him out.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
I think they also said, do the debate now and get it over with. Right. I don't think anybody thought he was going to get out, really. It didn't make any sense. The debate got him out, but I think it's very unfair. Look, you have a bad debate. His numbers went down. But I think she's not doing very well right now. And I think she looks...
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Well, you have a poll. I've never been polled. If I did, I'd hang up. I was never called by a poll system.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
You know how polls are done? Oh, I'm going to get myself in trouble. So I really don't believe too much in them.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
so well 2016 taught a lot of people about the ineffective well they were very effective because i thought i was doing well i'd go to a place and i'd have 30 40 000 people hillary would go they have 500 people and they tell me i'm going to lose i said why am i going to lose i had 40 000 people she had 200 people but you know i have a theory these pulses they charge you a lot of money too you know they charge you half a million bucks to do some stupid poll and they interview like 251 people
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
I don't think they interview, in many cases. I don't want to get myself in too much trouble. You think it's bullshit? No, I think they sit there, they make a deal, they get a half a million bucks, and they say, Trump's leading 51 to 49. They announce it, and everybody says, oh. Do you understand? Yeah. I don't think they... I think in a lot... Look... I'm a very common sense person.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
I think that they probably don't always poll. Some of them probably never poll. What's the difference between 49 to 51 and 47 and a half?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
I don't know of one person in my whole life that ever got called by a pollster.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
But I shouldn't say that because I'm doing really well in the polls now. So this week I happen to believe in a verse. I only believe if they're good. No, I like them this month. But no, I honestly believe that there's probably a lot of fraud. I had a poll, Washington Post, ABC, in the Hillary thing on Wisconsin. They had me down 17 points the day before the election.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
I knew it was wrong because I had a rally. I had 29,000 people at a racetrack and it was like zero degrees, Wisconsin. And they had me down 17 points. In other words, you had no chance. And I won. And I called up my pollsters, good guy, good guy. And I believe he's legitimate. And some of them are and some of them aren't. I said, tell me, why did they have me down so much?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
I mean, nobody's gonna believe them the next time. They said they don't care. When you're down 17 points, people are going to stay home. They're not going to vote. Because they're going to say, I love Trump, but I'm not going to waste my time. It's cold out. I said, but what do they make at four or five? He said, at four or five, they're going to go and vote.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
At 17, they're not going to go and vote. So think of it. This is the Washington Post, ABC, Paul. I was down 17 points in Wisconsin, and I won. It's crooked stuff.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Well, they say it made 10 point difference and I lost by one tenth of a point. They say it was 22,000 votes. But look, it was much more than that. And I appreciate Jay Devin saying that. And by the way, I think he was a great pick. Do you like J.D. as a kid? I like him a lot, yeah. You're allowed to say that. No, I do. I like him a lot. No, I think he's good.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
It zicked right there. It healed up pretty fucking good. Yeah, it's pretty good. It's not like some of the wrestlers, some of the UFC fighters. No, you didn't get cauliflower here. No, it was sort of like a top shot.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
The point of the bullet was only the ass. But you see, the things take it off a little bit. But it makes me a tougher guy. You know, the fighters love their—you know Bo Nickel? He's a great fighter. Yeah, I love Bo Nickel. How's he going to do? I think he's terrific.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Oh, that's going to be after the election? Yep. So I'll either go as president or I'll be depressed and I won't bother going. I think they're having a fight right now.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
You know, she conceded the night of the election because she was beaten.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Well, look at these guys in Congress, all these sleazebags in Congress that are Democrats. They're still denying 2016. But now they don't so much because, you know, they try and pin it on me. You don't hear them say it, but they denied it right up until the end.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
And you had legislatures that had to approve and they didn't approve and they went out and did it anyway. And you had ballot. You had old fashioned ballot screwing. I mean, you had you have people going up and dropping in phony votes. You had unsigned ballots, et cetera, et cetera. There's certain people that they have.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
It's you know, Kamala is a very low IQ person. She's a very low IQ. You know, I'm for taking tests, too. I think anybody that runs for president should take they should give him tests. And it's not an age thing. It's not based. If you look back on history, 70s and 80s, you're great. Some of your greatest leaders in the world, world history, longtime world history.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
But you either have it or you don't. Correct. Look, this is an interview. We've covered a lot of territory, right? And, you know, it's fine. I don't care. I want to. I think it's much more interesting. She, to do an interview with Anderson Cooper... A softball, crazy softball interview. She took two days off and she studied and studied all day long.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
And then she comes out with a result that was a real embarrassment. That was a really bad interview. She couldn't answer a question. And every question is not answered. I mean, like, what would you do your first day in office? Okay, I'll build a wall. I won't build a wall. There's a hundred things you can say. Just say anything, right? There's something off with her.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
We're dealing with the smartest people. They hate when I say, you know, when I call President Xi, they said, he called President Xi brilliant. Well, he's a brilliant guy. He controls 1.4 billion people with an iron fist. I mean, he's a brilliant guy, whether you like it or not. And they go crazy. Right. It doesn't mean he's not evil or it doesn't mean he's not dangerous. Yeah, of course not.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
But actually— We have evil people in our country. Yes. If you have a smart president, he can deal with Russia. He can deal with all of it. Russia would have never gone into Ukraine if I were president.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Automatic, two things I told him. I said, Vladimir, you're not going in. I used to talk to him all the time. You're not going in. I can't tell you what I told him because I think it would be inappropriate, but someday he'll tell you. But he would have never gone in. But you know why else he wouldn't have gone in?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Oil prices at $40 a barrel wouldn't have allowed him, wouldn't have given him the money to prosecute that war, wouldn't have given him the money. I said it with President. I was with President Xi. I said it was almost the same conversation. With Vladimir, it was Moscow. With President Xi, it was Beijing. It was almost the exact same conversation. I said, don't do it. He would have never done it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
The day I left, they flew 28 bombers over the middle of Taiwan, 28 bombers. And it's the apple of his eye. And the same thing with Russia. It's the apple. Ukraine is the apple of his eye. I used to talk to him. I had a very good relationship with him. He wouldn't have done it. He would have never done it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
But he also wouldn't have done it because of the... You know, one of the reasons that what happened is, number one, he doesn't respect Biden at all. Not even a little bit. And who the hell would? But he doesn't respect him. But when he saw what happened in Afghanistan, how horribly that was handled... Number one, you take the soldiers out last, not first. Okay, that was their big mistake.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
And we had that thing charted out, and they weren't obeying us. They weren't, Abdul is the head of the Taliban. Boom, boom, he had to do all these things. Some he didn't do. I said, nope, you gotta do them all. This guy took, he immediately took all, he left the equipment behind. 13 soldiers dead, but he took everybody out. He took his soldiers out before. A child would know.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
That's why Milley was so stupid. He was such a stupid guy, Milley. Okay, those generals should have all been fired. The Afghan, the people that were involved with Afghanistan should have all been fired. Then they'd be writing books about him, how stupid he was and bad he was. But you take your soldiers out last. I had a big rally and I saw a child in the front row.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
about a year and a half ago, and I called the child up. I said, do you mind if I borrow your child? Oh, yes, please. And they came up, kids five years, I gave them quick details, you know. I said, we want to get out of this place, and we have this, and we have this, and we have the equipment. I gave them a little thing. I said, do you take your soldiers out first or last, after everything's done?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
You take them out last, sir. A child would know that. We took our soldiers out first. What was your plan? And we left a bag room.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
The best equipment, you have to embarrass us, the best equipment in the world.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Well, number one, we would have taken it out. Just so you go back a little bit further, I had a couple of conversations with Abdul. And from the time I had those conversations, because they were shooting our soldiers, you know, with the sniper stuff. They were shooting a lot of them. They were shooting a lot with Obama, much less with me, but they were shooting.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
And I said, get this guy on the phone. The press went nuts when they heard this. I had a great conversation with him. It was a tough conversation. Eighteen months later, there wasn't one soldier that was ever shot at. And even Biden admitted it in a moment of stupidity because he shouldn't admit it. His people went nuts. He said, yeah, well, I will admit no soldier.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
We didn't have a soldier killed in 18 months in Afghanistan. Not one soldier was killed because he understood what was gonna happen if that happened. I didn't have one soldier. Then when I left, after having gotten more votes than any sitting president in the history of the country, and much more votes than he got in 2016. When I left, they started shooting our soldiers.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
But more importantly, what they did is they did that whole thing with, you know, leaving. He shouldn't have left, number one, should have left from Bagram, because Bagram's this massive base. It's got tremendous acreage around it, tremendous. It's a very big, it was built many years ago. And part of the reason you wouldn't have taken that is because it goes to China.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
One hour from where China makes its nuclear missiles, you should have never left Bagram. Number one, they should have left from Bagram. They should have left last. They should have gotten... You know, we have Americans that are still there. They should have taken all their equipment out. Everything should... Every plane, every screw should have been taken out, every tent.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
And I said that... That's when I realized that Milley was a dummy. I said... We're leaving, but I want to get everything out. Sir, it's cheaper to leave it. I said, what do you mean? It's cheaper to leave it. Yeah, he said it's cheaper to leave it. Cheaper. Cheaper. He said it's cheaper. Not more dangerous. He just said cheaper. I said, I want every plane. I want every tank. I want the goggles.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
They have night goggles. They have all this stuff that these guys now have. He said, sir, it's cheaper to get out and leave it. I said, so you think it's cheaper to leave a $150 million brand new airplane in there than it is to fly it out with a tank of jet fuel and put it in Pakistan or just fly it directly back? It's cheaper to live. I said, this guy's nuts. I'm telling you, he was so stupid.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
He was so unwise. He was like an unwise man. And there were a number of them. But I defeated ISIS with the greatest generals. I had a guy who was so great. I flew to Iraq and I met the real generals, not these idiots that we deal with. And we knocked out, you know, I defeated 100% of the ISIS caliphate. They said it would take five years. I did it in a matter of a few, literally a few weeks.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
And we hit them hard. And he said, so we're going to hit him here. We're going to hit him there. We're going to hit him here, there. And I said, this guy's great. I like this guy. I was told it would take five years. That's why I went. I said, how could it take five years? We have brand new fighters. We have the best planes, the best weapons, the best guns, the best bombs.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
How could it possibly take that long? And I flew to, I flew and left at three o'clock in the morning. Nobody knew I was going. I got on Air Force One and we started flying. And when we reached about half an hour away from Iraq, that was where the airport was, big airport, about a half an hour away, they said, sir, I'm sorry, you'll have to turn off all your lights. Why?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
We're getting close to our site. I said, you mean we spent $8 trillion that we can't leave the lights? Think of this. 20 years, $8 trillion, and we can't leave the lights on in a plane. I said, that's okay. Turn the lights on. I'm not going to fight them.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
They'll shoot at it. They'll shoot at it, you know? So I said, turn the lights off. Then they said, sir, we're going to also pull your shades if that's okay. I said, that's okay. The plane was pitch black. All the lights outside, you know, the blinking, the blinking reds, they were all turned off. And I like to sit with pilots a lot of times. And these guys are specimens.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
I always say they're better looking than Tom Cruise, okay? And they're even taller. Like perfect specimens. These guys, like for a fighter, you know, you have some guys that are perfect specimens. And, you know, they pick the best pilots in the Air Force, United States Air Force, to fly Air Force One. And I get up there, and I'm sitting, and I'm feeling my way up.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
You know, it's up by the 747, so you go through the stairs, but I sort of knew my way up. There wasn't a light in the plan. I'm saying, can you imagine? We spent trillions of dollars, We're trying to fly in blind. But I got into the plane. The cockpit is dark black, little tiny light. You could see the pilot, a perfect-looking human being. His co-pilot, everybody was perfect.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
They were all like movie stars, you know? It's like I could have cast a movie with these guys and nobody would believe it because they were too good-looking. So I said, how are we doing? Sir, we'll be landing in 10 minutes. And I look outside. There's not a light. And I'm saying, you know, I've landed a lot of planes. And you see like little lights at least. There's nothing. It's just pure desert.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
I said, Captain, are we okay? I'm looking. Are we okay, Captain? There's no lights. And I'm looking, you know, normally when you land a plane, because I sit with Pulse a lot, I think it's great. I think it's a great profession, everything. They're incredible. These machines are incredible. He said, sir, we're fine. No problem, sir. I said, you know, I don't see the lights up there, Captain.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Sure, we're okay, you know. So, I mean, I'm exaggerating a little bit. You know, a problem with exaggerating, it'll tell the story. They'll say, Trump was a coward. So I'm sitting with him, he goes, 500, and I'm telling you, there wasn't a light on the runway, nothing. And we're going in. You okay, Captain? Everything good? Yes, sir, no problem. We'll be down in about one minute, sir.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
And I'm telling you, Joe, You know, there's always a light. There's not a little pin. And all of a sudden, and you hear, wow, wow, perfect landing like glass. That's how good. I mean, these guys between the equipment and it's genius. It's pure. It was so dark. You couldn't see a thing. There was no runway. You wouldn't know where the hell you're in the middle of a desert.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
And then I got out of the plane. I said, thank you, Captain. It's a great job. And then I got out. a general and another general. And I see a staff sergeant, a drill sergeant, and the various guys. All central casting. Central casting. They said, sir, would you like to rest? I said, I don't want to rest. I want to figure out what the hell are we doing with ISIS. I'm hearing we can't.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
It's going to take years. No, sir, we can do it very quickly, sir. Anyway, we go into the room. I mean, Biden would have taken a nap for four days and then left without a meeting. So we go into the room, and they have these guys. I say, how long can you do it? How long? We can do it in a couple of weeks, sir. I said, wait a minute, they told me five years.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
We can do it in, I don't know, he gave me a number, like, whoa. Like, just, like in no time. I said, why haven't you done it? Because the orders... Came in from Washington, sir, and they would come here and tell us what to do. Don't you challenge us. We're not allowed to do that, sir. That's not the military way. They tell us what to do and we have to respect them.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
I think it's a bad system. You know, when Mattis goes there or when Milley goes there, who's stupid, and they tell these guys that are actually smart what to do. And the guys that are smart are saying we don't like what they're doing, but they're not allowed to sort of counteract. Plus, the guys that went there are arrogant. You know, they're arrogant fools. They're like stupid fools.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
The way they pulled out of – you know, the way they, as an example – The way they pulled out of Afghanistan with the people falling off the planes. It was worse than Vietnam with the helicopters falling. It was so bad. There was no reason for it. Anyway, so we knocked them out. And, I mean, we have great military. Not the television guys.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
And I rebuilt the military, and then they gave a chunk of it. As much as it is, it's a tiny little piece, believe it or not. We have an unbelievable, I rebuilt the military, I rebuilt our nuclear, and in a way I hated to redo it, but I got to realize how powerful that nuclear is, Joe. One bomb, Israel is gone, but forget. One bomb could take out the entire East Coast. It's so bad.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
And I watch these poor fools talking about our oceans will rise one-eighth of an inch over the next 500 years. We have people, we have countries, right now you have five countries, and don't underestimate North, if you take a look at North Korea, I was there, I mean, I was with Kim Jong, I had a great, I got along great with him. You know, the press says, he got along good.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
That's a good thing, it's not a bad thing, it's a great thing. Obama thought we were going to go to war with North Korea. When I met with Obama just prior to the takeover, you know, you meet, you have sort of a ceremonial meeting. But it lasted a long time, a lot longer than it was supposed to last. I said, what's the biggest problem? He said, North Korea.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
By the time I finished, we had no problem with North Korea. It was a little tough at the beginning, remember? He said, I have a red button on my desk. I said, I have a red button also, but mine's bigger than yours and mine works.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
I said, yeah, Little Rocket. I said, Little Rocket Man, you're going to burn in hell. And it was a rough. Yeah. Oh, so rough that people were worried. This is crazy. And then one day I got a call, sort of like a fight. I got a call. You know, you ever see that pounding? And then all of a sudden, but I got a call. And it was from him, meaning his people. They wanted to meet.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
They wouldn't meet Obama. He tried to meet. They wouldn't even talk to him about it. And I think he expected to go to war. I actually do. I believe he expected to go. And we checked their nuclear stockpile. It is substantial. I mean, I said, do you do anything? I got to know him very well. I got to know him better than anybody. Anybody. And I said, do you ever do anything else?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Why don't you go take it easy and relax? Go to the beach. You have beautiful beach, nice beachfront property. You know, kiddingly. I said, you're always building nuclear. Just relax. You don't have to do it. Let's build some condos on your shoreline. They actually have gorgeous stuff. And he said, I just have to do it because I need it for my safety. I got to know him very well.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
We had no problem with him. If you have a smart problem, if you have a smart, really the right president, a smart president, you're not gonna have a problem. And I say it to people. We have a bigger problem, in my opinion, with the enemy from within. And it drives them crazy when I use that term. But we have an enemy from within. We have people that are really bad people.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
that I really think want to make this country unsuccessful. When you look at what's happening at our border, Joe, when you have people coming in that when other countries are allowed to empty their prisons into our country with murderers, we had 13,099 murderers dropped in our country over the last three years.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Correct. People from mental institutions. What do you think this strategy is? Hundreds of thousands of major criminals. Tougher and worse than anybody we have.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Yeah. This is years after the fact. The damage was already done. But what was the bill? Well, the bill was nothing. It allowed 2 million people in. They were going to get amnesty. It was a horrible bill. It didn't protect us at all.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
They're in swing states. Well, that's not a swing state. I'm going to win Ohio by a lot. So that's not a swing. But it's called Springfield, Ohio to be exact. And Springfield, Ohio is this very nice community of 52,000 people that just had 32,000 migrants that don't speak the language dropped into their community. You can't get into a hospital. You can't get into a school.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
It's gone from a beautiful little place to a horror show. And the mayor is a nice guy. And the mayor says, we're looking for interpreters. I said, no, you've got to remove them and bring them back to their country. Mostly Haitians in this case. But they speak no language. They speak no English.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
In fact, even the language they do speak, I mean, they can't get interpreters. They can't do anything. And the mayor's trying to be politically correct. They're all trying to be. In Aurora, Colorado, you have the worst, probably the worst gang. MS-13 might even be, you know, those two are the worst gangs. These are Venezuela gangs.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
They have taken over apartment complexes, and they're going to want to take over the whole thing. And you have a weak governor, a pathetic governor, who's a radical left Democrat. He doesn't know what the hell to do. But you have it in many other communities, but they don't like to talk about it because it's bad for the community to talk about it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
These people have been let in here by this imbecile. I mean it. She's a low IQ person. Low IQ.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
It was used for shipping, and now it's used to deal with the cartels. The cartel, heads of the cartel, rich people, by the way. These are loaded. These people have so much money. They would call up, think of this, they call up the app, and the app tells them where they should take their load of illegal migrants from the Congo, You know, we have a lot from the Congo. Prisons in the Congo.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
I made a little bit of a sarcastic joke. A man named Dana White, who you love, who I love. I assume you love him.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
He is the greatest guy. You know, I always say every nobody's indispensable. You know, everybody can be replaced. Maybe you can't be. You might not be. But, you know, I truly I don't think, you know, the things he sold it for four billion. I said, what a hell. Who the hell is going to pay four billion? and they made like a great deal. I mean, because of him.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
He's also the greatest guy. He spoke at the whole thing with, you know, I had just been shot, and he got up and he spoke so better than anybody. I mean, who would be better to introduce you? I asked of all the people, and I know the biggest people in the world, and they all would have loved to have done it. I said, Dana, would you do it? You know, it was interesting. He was away.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
And he said to the people that, you know, one of my guys called, he said, I won't be able to do it. Gee, I just left with my wife and family. I said, he said, no, yeah. I was a little surprised, even though I knew he was very far away. He was in some place, you know, and he deserved it with his family and all that. And then I said, all right, let's enter. So we'll look at who we're going to get.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
sir dana white just said he's going to do it and he's coming back in tonight he's taking it but you know the guy is just an incredible guy and he's like a tough champion but loyal yeah he's got to be one of your favorite people he's one of my favorite people i've been friends with him for 23 years i love him so would you have um because you're what you're doing here is incredible i mean everybody tells me all i know is today i'm going
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
You know, you're on Joe Rogan. People are telling me like I said, I say, how the hell do you know that? But it's sort of what you've done here is amazing. Where would you be if you didn't do the UFC stuff? Would you have this show, do you think?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Would it be at the same level? I don't know. But you would have the show.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Will you always want to do UFC? First of all, you love UFC.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
You love the fights. I mean, I watch you. You are loving it. They could pay you nothing.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
And so – And then I came along and I gave him the sites. You did.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
He talks about it all the time. Just to interrupt you for one second. So – They couldn't get a site because it was too dangerous and everybody was against it and they couldn't get licensed. And I gave them the first two or three sites. And they were great. And by the way, I went to the first fight. I said, I never saw anything like this. It was crazy. It was so good.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Take the best fight you've ever seen. It was like that fight, right? It was so good that I gave it to him again and again. And all of a sudden it caught on. But you know... When I wasn't in Vogue, you know, I've had time. You probably never had a time, but I had times when I wasn't exactly in Vogue. Dana, they called him. He said, he's the greatest guy. There's nobody like him.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
He said, I'll never say anything bad about that guy because when I need it, because they were having a hard time at the beginning. They almost pulled the plug a couple of times, right? He said, he stood up and he gave us stuff that nobody else gave us and nobody wanted anything to do. And he said... I will never.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
And there was a time where it would have been very popular for him to say bad stuff about me. He said the greatest stuff about me. He said, you're going to try and get me to say bad stuff about Trump? I'm never doing it. No, he's a very, very, very loyal guy. Very unusual guy. He's a fantastic guy.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Boxing is still a great sport. I love boxing. But it seems to be. so unimportant now by comparison to UFC, don't you think?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
No UFC fighter, they say, has ever died. And it looks to be much more violent than boxing. Many boxers have died. Isn't it interesting? And Dana tells me because they take so many shots to the face.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Which, look, they should do that again. You know, I'm not the fighter, but those 15-round fights were unbelievable.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Those were the championship rounds. Those were the greatest fights ever.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Who's the greatest UFC fighter, are you allowed to say, in your opinion? It's tough for you to say because you do this. But who do you think is the greatest of the fighters?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
It was, it was amazing because it's, look, if you love the country, but here you are, the Lincoln bedroom and the bed, you know, he was very tall. He was six foot six, which then would be like, like Barron, would be like Barron Trump. He's six nine, but six foot six. He was very tall. Then on top of that, he wore, he wore that. Yeah, there it is. It's a long bed, elongated bed.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
You know, I never forget... So there was a fighter named James Tony.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
I love James Tony. He fought as a very light fighter, and he ended up as a heavyweight. This guy went through everything. He was almost like a lightweight.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
St. Pierre. I think it was him. Who did he fight? James Tony.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
It was the most, and he's half the size. And he just, once he got to the ankles, in fact, the announcer said, it's over.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
It was pretty quick. But he was talking big because he was much bigger. He was a pretty big guy.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
You think so? Yeah. But I never forgot it. I don't think he knew what he was doing. It was over very quickly, and he was lying sleeping on the mat, and he was talking. He was doing the Muhammad Ali stuff, but it didn't work out. He sold the fight. Yeah, that was Couture probably, wasn't it?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
If they stopped a little bit sooner, some of them would have had, you know, I mean, there are a couple that you just mentioned without mentioning names. If they stopped, they had the perfect, they were unbelievable. And then at a certain age, they start getting knocked out, right?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Well, Anderson Silver was essentially unbeatable, and then he lost to Klaus Wendt, and then all of a sudden he had... No, he got knocked out.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
It always amazed me how the kicker, I mean, you have those cases, but the kicker will do tremendous damage to somebody's leg, but their leg doesn't seem to get damaged. Isn't it sort of amazing? It does get damaged. It hurts.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
And because very, you know, people were shorter than, you see some of the chairs are very, very low to the ground actually, but he had the long bed and they had, you had the Gettysburg Address right on that, right under that, you can't see it here, but right there, the original version of the Gettysburg Address.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
And it's like, that's why you're good at it. Nobody does this better. Without the enthusiasm... Forget it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
And you love going in there after the fight, and they're sweating all over you. They're slopping all over you. They bleed on me. They're bleeding. Sometimes their nose is bleeding. Does that bother you a little bit? No. Like two weeks ago, I never saw him. Khalil Brownstreet, yeah. He more stuff came out of his nose.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
I brought this chart for you. Beautiful. Because I had a feeling you'd be asking me. Thank you. Look at this chart. These are healthier countries. Look where the United States is. I'm going to send this to RFK Jr.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
But RFK is going to be very, you know, I think he's a great guy.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Oh, I am. But the only thing I want to be a little careful about with him is. the environmental, because you know, he doesn't like oil, I love oil and gas, I think, you know, I think it's- Just keep him out of that. To fire, so I'm gonna sort of keep him out of a little, I said, focus on health, focus, you can do whatever you want, but gotta be a little bit careful with the liquid gold, you know?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
What is that? See the arrow right here? That's what I left.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
I would say that... And, you know, the... I think in many ways they've done a good job, in many ways they've done a bad job. But I would say that the big pharma wasn't thrilled when they heard that, you know, I have a relationship. I've actually always gotten along very well with him. I've known him a long time. He's a different kind of a guy. He's very smart, great guy.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
And he's very sincere about this. I mean, he really is, you know, he thinks we spend a fortune on pesticides and all this stuff, and then you end up... That chart is a terrible chart, the one previous... It's such a bad chart when you look at where we are compared to other countries that don't spend 10 cents. So, you know, and you save a lot of money.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
And this is the original, and I'm looking, and I just looked around, I said, do you believe this? Because I was never a, first of all, even if you were a politician, but I was never a politician. I sort of just started, right? And all of a sudden, I'm standing in the White House. And it was very, very surreal. That room was so beautiful to me, much more beautiful than it actually is.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
But, yeah, I've had some people that aren't exactly thrilled. You can imagine, right? Sure. It's a good question, actually.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
I would say that's an understatement. Yeah. So what do you do to stop that from getting in the way? Well, look, they've come up with some amazing things. I mean, I don't know how you feel. I know you're against certain vaccines. But like the polio vaccine, people had polio. It was like a disaster. and they came up, Dr. Salk, and he came up with a vaccine, and there's no polio.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Now, very interesting, there hasn't been polio, but now in the Gaza Strip, can you believe that? Have you heard that? There's been a big strain of polio coming out in the Gaza Strip.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
I mean, all I can do is I sit down and I listen to him and I'll give it a total. I would love him to be right because if he's right, it's a lot less expensive generally speaking.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
People are worried. But those ads, those ads, when you hear like, you know, take a certain drug. And then you hear all the consequences. And then you say, it causes cancer and baldness. We don't like baldness. Suicidal ideation. And they said that and eyesight. And you can lose your vision. Yeah.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
And, you know, I just, I actually asked one of these guys, I would never take, I mean, it causes things that are so bad. They go through a whole list. I guess they save some liability. But, man, I said, does that affect the purchase? And they say, it really does. Yeah. When there's something you have and you read, and then they go through the list of the potential side effects.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
I mean, a lot of people are just—I ask that question. People hear that. When I hear it, I'm going to take a piss. It says, may affect your vision, may cause blindness, may this—
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
And the pesticides and things like that on the plants. Yeah. What do you think of that? Terrible.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
To me, when I looked at the bed, and the bed, you could see it was a little bit longer, had to be a little bit longer. He lost his son and they suffered. The two of them suffered from melancholia. They didn't call it depression. They called it melancholia and they suffered from it. He was a very depressed guy and she was A very depressed woman, more so than him.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Well, when you look at that chart, they just gave me that chart because they said you may want to discuss this topic, which I know is a big topic for you. And when I looked at that chart and I looked at how unhealthy we are as a nation, that's a pretty big thing. How are you so healthy? Is it golf? No, it's genetics, I believe. You know, I'm a big believer. Genetics is a big factor. I really am.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
I mean, my father was— Unfortunately, it is a big factor for health.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Both of my parents. For me, it's good. Fresh air. It really is. It's fresh air. You're outside. Even mentally, you're focused on that three-footer. And for a couple of hours, you're not. And I go quick. I play fast, real fast. And I'm in, I'm out. But, you know, it gives me – I was never one that could, like, run on a treadmill. And I can do it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
You know, when passing a physical, they ask me to run on a treadmill. And then they make it steeper and steeper and steeper. And the doctor said, it was at Walter Reed, they said, it's unbelievable. I'm telling you, I felt I could have gone all day. But I said, doc, I can do this all day long. I have no problem. But it's boring to me. Do you understand? It's just boring.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
But I did it for so long, they couldn't believe it that I did it. And I never, you know, I don't do it. I don't really, you know, I have friends that are running this stuff all day long. But I had no problem doing it. But it's really boring. So with golf or something, you know, or tennis or whatever. Golf, as you get older, there's something really good about it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
It gives you a couple of hours. You know, it's interesting. Like with tennis, if you're much better than somebody, you can't really play with somebody. You know, it doesn't work. You can give them sort of the equivalent of strokes, right? But it's not the same. With golf, you can play with a lousy guy and give him a stroke a hole or two strokes a hole or something.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
You know, it's a good handicapping sport. But it gives me a little exercise. But I haven't played in a long time. I won 32 club championships.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
No. What I did is I played with Bryson DeChambeau. Do you know Bryson? Yes. The pro. He's a great player. And we played, it was a certain thing that we played, I guess called breaking 50 or something. 50, we play from a certain tee and if you can break 50. And it got tremendous ratings. Sort of like a crazy thing. He's a great guy.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
You were on the golf course. I think I did. Yeah, maybe I did. But, you know, I view it very interestingly. I'm running. of the United States. To me, it's such a big deal. It's so important.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
It's 100 times bigger than the Super Bowl, and it's one person.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
So you're down to two people, and we start off at nine billion, because you have nine billion, they say, in the world. Who knows what that number is? But you get down to 350 million. Sadly, we have no idea what we have in this country, but let's assume it's 325, 350. And you're down to two people. It's the biggest thing in the world.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
And on top of that, they lost their son, whose name was Tad. Tad. And it was just seeing it in the little pictures, a little tiny picture. I mean, you can't see the details there. A little tiny, everything in the web was a little tiny picture of Tad. who he lost, and it was devastating. Look, he was in a war, and he was having a hard time because he couldn't beat Robert E. Lee.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
And when I heard she took off yesterday and she took off the day before and she's gonna take off tomorrow or the next day, I haven't taken a day off in 56 days. That's a long time. I haven't taken one day off. I don't wanna play golf. This is too exciting. Golf is great, but this is too exciting. This is more exciting than anything you can do.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
It's the home stretch. Who would take a day off? So we have 11 days left now. And think of it. So I think I've gone 54, 55 days in a row. No days off. And I make speeches oftentimes. Sometimes not, but I make speeches. And when you make a speech... And my speeches last a long time because of the weave. I weave stories into it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
If you don't, if you just read a teleprompter, nobody's gonna be very excited. You gotta weave it out. But you always have to, as you say, you always have to get right back to it. Otherwise it's no good. But the weave is very, very important. Very few weavers around. It's a big strain on your... You know, it's a big... It's a lot of work. It's a lot of work. You got to be careful with the voice.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
You can lose that voice. The voice wasn't designed. I said today, so I made a big one last night. I was in Las Vegas. Big one the night before in Arizona. Big one. I mean, they're all big. There's never been anything like it in terms of crowd. Never been close. Never been close. They say, he talks about, the crowd says, you know what's very interesting? So we get crowds that are
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
really big, and I say, you know, I've never had a story, because I don't get good press. I don't think I've had a good story in years. I really don't. I swear, I don't think I, you were talking about it a little bit with Oprah. Everybody loved me. I don't think, I became President of the United States. I did great the second time. I did much better.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
I don't want to get you in any disputes, but I won that second election so easy. And not just because- But let me get to that. I want to talk to you about that. But here's the thing. I did that, and now I've gotten the nomination again. And don't forget, to get these nominations, you go against very smart people. Ron DeSantis was hot. Had to go through him. Nikki Haley was hot.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Had to go through her. Went through everybody. Record time, right? Record time. I got three nominations in a row. won the first time, did much better the second time. You know, I get millions of votes more the second time, and now I'm doing it a third time. And it's an incredible thing. I never get a good story. I only get bad press. Now, I will say this. It's a lot easier if you're a Democrat.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
But it's getting younger. Yes. It's getting for us, for conservatives. Yes. And, you know, I consider myself a person.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Bloodbath hoax. Yeah. I was talking about the auto industry. Yes. It's a bloodbath because Japan and China are taking our order. And I said, it's a bloodbath. They said, oh, he used the word bloodbath.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
You know, shows like yours. So I have a son who's very smart and tall, barren, right? And he knows all about you. He knows about guys I never heard of. He said, Dad, you don't know how big they are. They're big. I said, who the hell is he? Like Ross. He said, Dad, he's a great guy. I mean, guys that are doing it. It's a whole new world out there.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
And I've done really well. No, but you know the crazy? Have you seen the numbers? Billions, like billions of hits. It's crazy. I'm sure.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Robert E. Lee won like 13 battles in a row, and he was getting like a phobia, like a fighter. You know a lot about the fight stuff, but I went to a UFC fight, and it was a champion who was 14 and one about a year ago. You would know the names.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
And I've gone up 30 points. A Republican is always down 30 with young people. I'm plus 30. And I'm on TikTok. It's had a huge impact.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
There's a big difference now. But even in just a couple of years, I was shaking hands with people. They're young people. The rebels are Republicans now.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Joe, they come after their political opponent. I got more guys. I always say, you know, I kid, but I'm not kidding. I've been investigated more than Alphonse Capone. He was the meanest of them all. He'd kill you in two seconds if he didn't like you, right? I've been under investigation more than Alphonse Capone, only because it's political opponent stuff. And I've won.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
I won the big case in Florida. I'm winning the other stuff. You win. But you know what they did? They did something that's only done in third world countries. They came after their political opponent. I could have put Crooked Hillary in jail.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Isn't it crazy? By ignoring what they're doing right now. It's crazy. I heard it today. Somebody was defending me today. They said, no, that's what you're doing to him. They're going, he's going to put us in jail. He's going to investigate. That's what you're doing. That's what you're doing to him. Yeah. A lot of people say, will you do that? Will you do that to him, to them, if you win?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
You know, the presidency has tremendous power. I could have put Crooked Hillary in jail.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
No, I couldn't even imagine you have, first of all, Secretary of State, but more importantly, the wife of the president of the United States of America. going into jail. And if you ever saw when I'd say something about her, they'd all say, I didn't say it. I never said it. They say, lock her up, lock her up. And I'd always go, take it easy. Just relax. We're going to win this thing. Take it easy.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Take it easy. And I'm telling you, I kept it down. Just the opposite. Now they say, oh, Trump wanted to put her in jail. No. I saved her from going to jail. They had more stuff on her. And Comey had it, because when Comey got up, and he stupidly, because he's a stupid guy too, he goes, he's a stupid son of a bitch.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
He got up, Joe, he got up, and instead of saying she's innocent of all charges, he went over each charge, and each charge was a killer. And he'd go, and as far as her doing this... She's innocent. And this, and then she's only an unfair prosecutor. But every time you heard these charges, they sounded so bad. They were bad. And all it was is he wanted more airtime.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
14 and one, and the only guy he lost to was this one guy, but the guy that he was fighting was like almost just an average fighter, lost numerous times, but he beat this one guy. So I said, okay.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
If he would have gone up and said, I've thoroughly investigated Hillary Clinton and she's done nothing that we feel is wrong, it would have ended. Instead, he wanted to be up there because he's a PR hound. He's a hog. And he starts going through, and you know what he had? They had a huge problem because FBI is great.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
The people there, not the top people, the people, the real people, the people that work there. It's like the real generals that I told you about that defeated ISIS in record time. The FBI guys are great. I'll bet you I'd be at 95% in the FBI.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Underneath. Yeah. And so here's the thing. So he goes with Hillary, and instead of just saying, he goes through each charge. Right. And even I would say, man, those are bad charges.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Now, he was trying to protect her, but he did her a great disservice.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Well, they not only cut you off. Well, what I'd rather do is we'll do it another time. And I would bring in papers that you would not believe. So many different papers. That election was so crooked. It was the most crooked election.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Well, let's start on the top and the easy ones. They were supposed to get legislative approval to do the things they did, and they didn't get it. In many cases, they didn't get it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Anything. Like for extensions of the voting, for voting earlier, for this, all different things. By law, they had to get legislative approvals. You don't have to go any further than that. If you take a look at Wisconsin, They virtually admitted that the election was rigged, robbed, and stolen. They wouldn't give access in certain areas to the ballots because the ballots weren't signed.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
I'm trying to. I will figure it out. Okay. But about a year ago, but the point is that he lost, he wasn't nearly the fighter, but the one who was not nearly the fighter had beaten, he's the only guy that beat the champ like five years before, And I said, I'll take the guy that won the other fight. And that's what happened. He beat him a second time. Sometimes psychological advantage.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
They weren't originals. We could go into this stuff. We could go into the ballots or we could go into the overall. I'll give you another one.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
51 intelligence agents come up that the laptop was from Russia. It turned out to be totally false.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
They say that made... I don't believe it's this much, but it doesn't matter. I won by like... I lost by like... I didn't lose, but they say I lost, Joe, they say I lost by 22,000 votes. That's like 1 10th of 1% less than that. It's a tiny little thing. 22,000 votes spread over, that spread over this period. So, 51 intelligence agents lied. They lied, they lied, they knew it was.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
It was Hunter's, it was from his bed. It was Hunter's laptop. They said it was created by Russia. Russia, Russia, Russia. It was the Russia hoax. The Russia hoax was a big hoax. It was all a big hoax. Well, that's clear. That's one example. But that is a good example. But that's a big example. They say it made a 17-point difference. That's a big example. But that's only one.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
And you could go into the ballots where they wouldn't give you access to the ballots. You could go into the ballot harvesting. You could go into $500 million for the lockboxes.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
I was actually the opposite of a dictator. I was a very straight guy. But look, those three things, you take those three things, each one of them by themselves causes the result to be different. It does. And then you can go into a hundred other things. There are so many. We can't have corrupt elections and we can't have open borders. You need to have a country. You need borders.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
You need fair elections. And I'll tell you the other thing you need is you need a free and fair press. One of the things I like about doing a show like this, can you imagine Kamala doing this show? I could imagine her doing the show. She'd be laying on the floor.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
If she did this kind of an interview with you, I hope she does because it would be a mess. She'd be laying on the floor comatose. You'd be saying, call in the medics. I think.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Yeah, it was this crazy thing. Lincoln had a, I don't know, I've never read this. I heard it from people in the White House who really understand what was going on with Reagan. with the whole life of the White House, but Lincoln had the yips about, in a way, as the golfers would say, he had a phobia about Robert E. Lee. He said, I can't beat Robert, because Robert E. Lee won many battles in a row.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Also, you have to break – I think you have to have the debates.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
I would rather have a crowd. Of course you would. You're good at crowds. But I had no—so they gave me an alternative. I don't think he wanted to debate. Why did they want no crowd? What was the argument? Because I think they thought I wasn't going to accept it. So I believe what they wanted to do is have me not accept. So they gave me a deal I couldn't refuse, and I said, I'll do it, okay?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
I'll take it. So they came to me. They said— We'll debate Joe Biden. You know, that thing got tremendous ratings, too. That was crazy. But we'll debate Joe Biden. But you can't have a crowd. They also wanted sitting down. I said, that's the only thing. I said, look, you got to stand up. You can't really sit down. You know, in the old days, they did sit down a little bit. But he gets tired.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
You got to stand up. And they agreed to it. It was a very tough thing. It almost killed it. They wanted to have like desks where we sit. I said, I think we should stand up. And that was the only thing I asked for. I said, we got to stand up. I thought it looked bad for like the public, but they said no crowd and cut off the mic. And I said, I can live with it. I mean, I can live with it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
And they thought I was going to reject it. And then they would say he didn't want to debate Sleepy Joe.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
No, by the way, with her, number one, I'm leading. Number two, you know, they also said it with the primary. So I had like 10, 12 guys, right, in the primary. No stupid guys. I mean, they're governors and they're senators. They're not stupid people. Some are stupid, but not all of them. And all my guys said, you have to be in the debate. I said, why? I'm leading by 74 points.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
The closest guy to me, I'm like 60 points, 70 points higher. Why would I stand there like an idiot for two hours and let every one of them scream at me? I'm going to be the focus. Right. And I said, I'm not debating. And it was a very smart thing because, you know, they just killed themselves.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Yeah, the Republican primaries. I like debating. I think you have to debate. But it has to be fair. I like debating like the Rosie O'Donnell debate. I like debating when you have a great—remember the Rosie O'Dell? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was very funny. Megan Kelly. It was a crazy thing, Megan. That was a hell of a question, man. If I didn't come up with that answer— It was a great line.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
Well, what it was is, you know, that was—we had 28,000 people. That was the Cleveland Arena where the Cavaliers played. Right. LeBron James. I'm not a big fan of LeBron James, but he is a good basketball player. But, you know, that was the – and when I said that, the place went crazy. And she kept talking.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2219 - Donald Trump
It was funny. That's what they wanted to avoid. It was lucky I did it because she was – oh, she wasn't finished. That question – but she kept talking. Right, right, right. But you couldn't hear her. To this day, they don't know what she said, but it wasn't positive. Right. So anyway, but we had a good time.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
He was just beating the hell out of, you know, they tried to get Robert E. Lee to be on the North, but he said, no, I have to be with my state, you know, and the state was his whole thing, and he went to the South. And he was, I've had generals tell me, we have some great generals, the real generals, not the ones you see on television, the ones that beat ISIS with me.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
Well, how did I do with the Al Smith dinner? I got very good reviews on that.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
Hey, maybe take a nap. So I was, okay, look, let's see how it all turns out. I think we're going to win. I think we're way ahead now. I think we're way ahead. But if they lose, I think they're going to look at two things. They're going to say they should have had a primary, even if it was a short primary. They shouldn't have picked her.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
And then she's going to say, I shouldn't have picked this guy.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
Little thing. So I did McDonald's last week. I saw that. And I actually got a call from your friends at Google, from Sundar. That's pretty good, right? He said, this is the biggest thing we've had in years. You at McDonald's? At McDonald's. Did you know that? It was one of the— That was funny. Who's a great guy, by the way. But he said—
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#2219 - Donald Trump
This McDonald's thing, I want to tell you, it's one of the biggest things we've ever had on Google. It just hit. But the reason I did, and I actually, you know, you never know about this stuff. I thought it was a throwaway. I didn't think our conversation is a throwaway, but I thought that was, I thought I'd walk in.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
And that was only to highlight the fact, and I have a friend, he owns like 56 of these McDonald's. And he said, do you want to use one? I said, yeah, I love it. So we went there and the crowd was crazy. You know, they had 28,000 people around the whole thing. Did you see the outside? It was crazy. The cars couldn't get through. Secret Service was not exactly thrilled. We had no idea what the hell.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
But I went into the place and I did the french fry thing. And it just hit. But that's like in life. Sometimes you do. I thought it was like a quick throwaway. We're going to be there for 15 minutes. Then I said, I've worked here for 15 minutes, which is 15 minutes more than she worked here. She lied about McDonald's.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
Well, McDonald's has no information. She has no information. There's nobody. The manager said she never worked there. You know, it was a certain place. And he said they never. No, she lied. She's a liar. You know what they do? They'll say like on any one of the questions, take any. They'll say it's the exact opposite of what I say. IVF. He's against IVF, the fertilization.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
And it's the exact opposite. I came out immediately strongly in favor. And they do ads. I'm against it. It's wrong. On every single topic. And, you know, she changed policies on 15. I've never seen a guy change, anybody change on more than one. You know, you can maybe get away with one.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
Her whole life, fracking, every single thing that she was for, the confiscation of guns, she wants to confiscate. Now she's saying everybody should have a gun. In fact, we're going to get her a MAGA cap. I'm going to send her a MAGA cap. But she's changed, and I don't think people are buying it. I don't think people are buying it.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
We defeated ISIS in record time. It was supposed to take years and we did it in a matter of weeks. These are great generals. These are tough guys. These are not woke guys. But their favorite general in terms of genius was Robert E. Lee. In terms of strategy? Strategically. He took a war that should have been over in a few days, and it was, you know, years of hell, a vicious war.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
I don't understand why. Okay, you have a wall. You know, I built 570 miles of wall. I built a lot of wall, exactly the stuff. But you have a border. What I don't understand is who would want people to come into our country from places unknown, like sometimes they'll say about a fighter, from parts unknown, right? Remember Haystack's Cajun, from parts. He says from parts. No, the oldest.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
Those are the oldest. That's even before you. But who would want people to come in pouring into our country. We don't know anything about it.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
There's a couple of theories. They hate our country. They're stupid. Or they want to buy votes. It's one of those three things. Yeah. Now, they are trying to get people registered who don't even know what the country is.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
People that live here, they're trying to give them a path to citizenship. They want to give them citizenship.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
$200 billion. And that's a way low number. That's a way low. You know, it's interesting. New York has always been like... You know, sort of like always looking for money. They've spent a hundred billion dollars on this stuff. I don't know where they and they're not getting the money from the federal government. It's crazy. And because the mayor came out and said, we can't live like this.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
By the way, I called it. I said he just got himself indicted. This group is stupid, but they're vicious. They're stupid people, but they're vicious people.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
Oh, I did. I have books on it. And by the way, books have been written on it. We have an author named Hemingway who is a great writer. She wrote a book on it, but many books have been written on it. There are books that are, what's happened is judges don't want to touch it. They would say you don't have standing. They didn't rule on the merits. The merits never got there.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
The judges didn't have what it took to turn over an election.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
So Elon Musk, I think he said it publicly. I hope he did because I wouldn't want to be the winner. But he's a really smart guy. And he's a very good guy with computers, right? You'd say he's one of the smartest people alive. Anybody that can land that 20-story building and perfect.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
And then he agrees to Starlink. And he tweets 100 times a day. He's an amazing guy.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
He said to me that unless you have paper ballots, it can never be an honest election. That's a big statement. It's a big statement. We should go to paper ballots. You know, France did. They went the mail-in voting and it was all messed up. You know the amazing thing with the machines? So we have the machines. They cost 10 times more. A paper ballot would cost 8%. And they make paper ballots.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
They're all watermarked and everything else. They're very sophisticated. But if you take a look, paper ballots, 8% the cost, and you're done by 9 o'clock in the evening, right? Now we have these sophisticated machines. It goes up to heaven. It goes all over the place and down and around. And they say, we'll need two weeks to figure out who the hell won the election.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
Yeah, I do. I think it's very crooked. That's my opinion.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
Well, if I win, this will be my last election. But I think I owe it to the country. But I think I owe it to the country. We have to have fair elections. So how can you fix that? You know, Jimmy Carter was in charge of a commission, you know, that many years ago. And they put him and Scoop Jackson and various senators, you know, distinguished people that were retired.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
And so here I am standing there, and again, I had never really done this before. You know, I ran, I ran a number of months before I won. I probably, I guess if you figured max it out, it would be a year, something like that. So I had never run for office. And I did well. I mean, I went into debates. We had 18 people, including me. And then slowly but surely, they started to disappear.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
Last week I did one of her last shows, I think, Maybe Thursday or Friday, that was a big deal, being on Oprah's show, the last one. And I was like one of the last shows in that final week. And I said, boy, we've come a long way since that. What was it like? Well, the concept, it was really like two different lives. I had a very wonderful life, but I wanted to do this.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
And they came up with a report, and the report's primary finding was, you cannot have mail-in ballots, because if it's a mail-in ballot... You know, I went to the voting booth the last time, whatever it was, and I walked in, in Palm Beach, and I walk in, and they know me. They say, Mr. President, could I see your identification? Yes, boom, here's this, here's that, everything.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
And then you sit and they watch you sign. There's not a lot you can do. I mean, if you wanted to be dishonest, it's sort of beautiful. If instead of that, I'm going to send them a ballot, it has to go through the postal services. It has to go through a lot of people. They mail you houses that, you know, the house was demolished and the people have left. It's so bad.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
The one thing with Jimmy Carter, he had a very strong commission. No mail-in ballots. And we're the only one that does elections this way anymore. They've gotten away from it.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
Another thing that they – But they used COVID to cheat.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
And the last election was a little bit of a – You couldn't even get security guys, big, strong guys to watch. You know what? You'd call them. They'd call them and they'd say, they were afraid to go out. You know, we were in the middle of COVID. We were in the middle of COVID, right smack in the middle. And they didn't want to die. You know, they didn't want to catch it.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
It was like, in a way, it was like a ghost town. And the whole thing – but mail-in ballots are a bad thing.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
Okay, but here's now the next step. Gavin Newsom, one of the worst governors in the world, and I used to, frankly, I used to get along, but I don't get along with him because he's just too, you know, it's just a whole con job. But Gavin Newsom The other day signed a bill that you are not allowed to ask a person, even ask them whether or not they have voter ID.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
Now, you know, you have ID. The Democrat National Convention, when they had it the last time, I saw... They had a sign like a billboard or the name of the person, where they live, how they live, who the hell their boyfriends are. Every single... And a big picture. That's for their... They have an ID, a big ID. It was hanging like you were a prisoner. They had these massive cards, everything.
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#2219 - Donald Trump
And yet when it comes to the vote, in theory, the most important thing we do, OK, when you go to a grocery store, you give ID. But for a vote, it's supposed to be a sacred thing and it should be a sacred thing. No voter ID because they want to cheat.