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Where Are the Democrats?

Thu, 6 Feb 2025

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How is the Democratic Party navigating the dominance of President Trump — and reckoning with the reality that more and more voters have been souring on its message?The Times journalists Michael Barbaro, Shane Goldmacher, Reid J. Epstein and Annie Karni discuss the state of the Democrats.Guests: Shane Goldmacher, a national political correspondent for The New York Times; Reid J. Epstein, a New York Times reporter covering politics; Annie Karni, a congressional correspondent at The New York Times.Background reading: “We have no coherent message”: Democrats have struggled to oppose President Trump.Democrats chose a political operator from Minnesota as their new leader.The House Democratic Super PAC created a $50 million fund targeting the working class.For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

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1.513 - 6.177 Anna Foley

Excuse me, hi. Hi. My name is Anna Foley. I'm with the New York Times. Do you mind if I ask you a few questions?

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6.677 - 6.917 Unknown Interviewee

Okay.

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7.237 - 8.759 Anna Foley

How does it feel to be a Democrat right now?

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10.78 - 12.702 Unknown Interviewee

Um, that's an interesting question.

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14.723 - 20.067 Anna Foley

I feel like Rocky Balboa. We just got punched. We just got knocked down. We got knocked down really hard, and it hurts.

20.905 - 36.91 Reid J. Epstein

I think, to be honest with you, it feels a little bit like we're all in a listless ship, kind of just spinning about. As a Democrat, it feels a little frustrating. We are a bit of a punching bag at the moment. We've lost sight of our values, and sometimes we get so overinvested into the policy differences that we end up separating ourselves.

37.301 - 46.289 Michael Barbaro

But I also think it's important to note that we're not completely in the wilderness, right? This was not some election where Trump won by 20 points. It was a close election.

46.309 - 52.734 Anna Foley

I think we missed the mark somewhere. And if there was ever a time, if there was ever an inflection point, it is now.

52.754 - 54.636 Annie Karni

So we've got a lot of work ahead of us.

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