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Trump Plans to Abandon Clean Energy. Can He Do It?

Thu, 23 Jan 2025

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Among the many plans that President Trump laid out on his first day back in office was a directive to abandon the shift toward clean energy and double down on oil.Coral Davenport, who covers energy and environmental policy for The Times, discusses whether Mr. Trump could pull it off, and what it would mean for the country if he did.Guest: Coral Davenport, a reporter covering energy and environmental policy, with a focus on climate change, for The New York Times.Background reading: President Trump wants to unleash energy, as long as it’s not wind or solar.Mr. Trump sees national emergencies where experts say there are none.For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. Photo: Charlie Riedel/Associated Press Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

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00:01 - 00:38 Sabrina Tavernisi

From The New York Times, I'm Sabrina Tavernisi, and this is The Daily. Among the many plans that Donald Trump laid out on his first day as president was a directive to abandon the shift toward clean energy and double down on oil. Today, my colleague Coral Davenport on whether Trump can pull it off and what it would mean for the country if he did. It's Thursday, January 23rd.

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00:44 - 01:03 Sabrina Tavernisi

So, Coral, we're taking a close look this week at the most important parts of Trump's agenda so far. He laid them out with a whole series of executive orders on the first day of his presidency. For Wednesday's show, we looked at measures related to immigration. But today, we wanted to look at his efforts on energy policy, which is obviously hugely important for the U.S.

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01:03 - 01:11 Sabrina Tavernisi

economy, but also for the climate. You are digging into this in your reporting. Explain what Trump did this week.

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01:11 - 01:41 Coral Davenport

So within hours of inauguration, Trump signed this flurry of executive orders touching all kinds of pieces of policy. There were about six executive orders specifically related to energy. But within them, some of those orders had more than a dozen different policies. And if you look at all of these added up together, they very clearly realize Trump's vision, which he has expressed repeatedly.

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00:00 - 00:00 Coral Davenport

forcefully throughout his campaign of an American economy driven and centered on unleashing new forces of fossil fuels. More energy, more gas, more coal, more drilling, more mining, more use of those fossil fuels. That is the core driver of the American economy and of revenue and of what he sees as American dominance.

00:00 - 00:00 Donald Trump

Thank you very, very much.

00:00 - 00:00 Coral Davenport

So you heard him on Monday during his inaugural speech saying that we will... Drill, baby, drill. Drill, baby, drill.

00:00 - 00:00 Donald Trump

America will be a manufacturing nation once again. And we have something that no other manufacturing nation will ever have. The largest amount of oil and gas of any country on Earth.

00:00 - 00:00 Coral Davenport

And very aggressively slamming the brakes on clean energy.

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