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Trump Pivots Toward Putin, and R.F.K. Jr. Says ‘Nothing’ Is Off Limits

Wed, 19 Feb 2025

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Plus, an asteroid alert (for 2032).  On Today’s Episode:Trump’s Pivot Toward Putin’s Russia Upends Generations of U.S. Policy, by Peter BakerTrump Issues Order to Expand His Power Over Agencies Congress Made Independent, by Charlie SavageTrump Administration Moves to Fast-Track Hundreds of Fossil Fuel Projects, by Lisa FriedmanKennedy Says ‘Nothing’ Off Limits in Scrutinizing Chronic Disease, by Sheryl Gay Stolberg and Christina JewettTrump’s Cuts Could Make Parks and Forests More Dangerous, Employees Say, by Austyn GaffneyMusk Team’s Next Target Is Probationary Pentagon Employees, by Eric Schmitt and John IsmayPope Francis, Hospitalized, Has Pneumonia, Vatican Says, by Elisabetta PovoledoWill That Asteroid Strike Earth? Risk Level Rises to Highest Ever Recorded, by Robin George AndrewsTune in every weekday morning. To get our full audio journalism and storytelling experience, download the New York Times Audio app — available to Times news subscribers on iOS — and sign up for our weekly newsletter.Tell us what you think at: [email protected]

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Chapter 1: What are the key topics covered in this podcast episode?

2.99 - 23.684 Tracy Mumford

From The New York Times, it's The Headlines. I'm Tracy Mumford. Today's Wednesday, February 19th. Here's what we're covering. The Trump administration is going all in on building closer ties with Russia, upending decades of American foreign policy. Yesterday, top U.S.

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Chapter 2: How is the Trump administration approaching relations with Russia?

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officials, including Secretary of State Marco Rubio, met for four hours with Russia's foreign minister as they began peace talks around the war in Ukraine. It was the first face-to-face meeting between Russia and the U.S. since Russia's invasion in 2022. Rubio said that ending the war would open up, quote, extraordinary business and political opportunities for the U.S.

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and Russia, signaling that the administration is ready to look past Russia's brazen land grab and its killing of thousands of civilians. Ukraine said it was not invited to the peace talks at all.

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Chapter 3: What was discussed in the peace talks between the US and Russia?

58.493 - 67.243 Unnamed Reporter

Yeah, please. After the meeting... Do you have any message for Ukrainians who, after three years of fighting, might feel betrayed or disappointed at not having a seat at these initial talks in Saudi Arabia?

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67.343 - 73.43 Tracy Mumford

Trump faced questions about the negotiations at a press conference at Mar-a-Lago. My colleague Jonathan Swan was there.

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74.031 - 80.596 Jonathan Swan

He was asked about Ukraine not having a seat at the table. And it was a very revealing exchange.

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Chapter 4: What is President Trump's stance on Ukraine and Zelensky?

80.636 - 95.427 Donald Trump

I hear that, you know, they're upset about not having a seat. Well, they've had a seat for three years and a long time before that. This could have been settled very easily. Just a half-baked negotiator could have settled this years ago.

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95.847 - 99.57 Jonathan Swan

President Trump attacked Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.

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99.61 - 106.804 Donald Trump

I mean, I hate to say it, but he's down at 4% approval rating. and where our country has been blown to smithereens.

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107.104 - 118.79 Jonathan Swan

Trump incorrectly said that he had a 4% approval rating and even seemed to suggest that Zelensky was the one who was responsible for the Russian invasion.

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119.231 - 121.292 Donald Trump

You should have never started it. You could have made a deal.

122.156 - 142.529 Jonathan Swan

We already knew that Trump felt more warmly toward the Russian president, Vladimir Putin, than he did towards Zelensky. But it was illuminating to be there at Mar-a-Lago at this moment, as his team is negotiating, to see him effectively blame Zelensky for the invasion of his country. The contempt was stark.

Chapter 5: How are Republican leaders reacting to Trump's pivot on Putin?

143.109 - 150.494 Jonathan Swan

Trump didn't say a bad word about Putin, and all of his criticisms seemed directed towards Zelensky.

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152.267 - 162.819 Tracy Mumford

President Trump's pivot on Putin has raised concerns even among members of his own party. Republican Senator Roger Wicker of Mississippi urged caution in an interview on CNN.

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162.939 - 187.058 Donald Trump

Do you think that Putin can be trusted in these negotiations? No. Putin is a war criminal and should be in jail for the rest of his life, if not executed. I've just finished signing some executive orders, and if we could start with that, Will, you might want to come up here.

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187.118 - 206.977 Tracy Mumford

At Mar-a-Lago yesterday, President Trump also signed a new order expanding his power over independent government agencies. The agencies range from the Securities and Exchange Commission to the National Labor Relations Board. They regulate everything from Wall Street to Internet access to unionizing. They're agencies that Congress established.

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207.557 - 214.282 Tracy Mumford

They're designed to be independent, and they're structured so their day-to-day activities are not under the direct control of the president.

214.622 - 234.434 Donald Trump

These agencies do not get to become a fourth branch of government issuing rules and edicts all by themselves, and that's what they've been doing. When Trump was on the campaign trail, he vowed to change that. I will require that they submit any regulations they're considering for White House review. And his new order follows through.

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It requires the agencies to submit their policies to the White House in advance and says the administration can block and cut off funding for initiatives that conflict with the president's priorities. Ending the agency's independence has been a longtime goal of the conservative legal movement, which sees this as a way to reduce government regulation and rules on corporations.

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Three more quick updates from Washington. On the energy front, the Trump administration is moving to fast-track fossil fuel projects. The Army Corps of Engineers has created a new class of emergency permits to speed up the approval of projects like pipelines, mines and power plants. It's part of President Trump's demand to increase oil, gas and coal production.

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The move could limit environmental reviews of the projects and cut out the chance for the public to weigh in. At the Department of Health and Human Services, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. laid out his agenda in his first address to staffers.

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