Is Biden Quiet Quitting?
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Welcome to Pod Save America. I'm Jon Favreau. I'm Jon Lovett. I'm Tommy Vitor. On today's show, Joe Biden yields the spotlight to Donald Trump in the final weeks of his presidency. We'll dig into the strange dynamic and talk about what Biden has and hasn't been doing. We'll also talk about the great drone mystery that's taken the nation by storm and Trump's promise to make daylight saving time permanent, which might not be such a crazy idea, according to noted circadian rhythm expert Jon Lovett. That's right. Then Congressman Ro Khanna stops by to talk about collaborating with Elon Musk and Trump and how Democrats in the upcoming Congress should strike the balance between resisting and getting things done. But first, Donald Trump unexpectedly took questions from reporters Monday morning at Mar-a-Lago. As he usually does at these things, he talked about all kinds of shit without making too much news.
But one thing that got a lot of attention, including ours, was his response to a question about lawsuits against media figures. We found out over the weekend that ABC News will contribute $15 million to Trump's post-presidency foundation and pay another million in legal fees to settle a defamation lawsuit the president-elect brought against them. The lawsuit came after George Stephanopoulos mistakenly said on air that Trump had, quote, been found liable for rape in the E. Jean Carroll case as opposed to mere sexual abuse and defamation. A reporter at the Monday Presser asked Trump whether he's considering expanding his legal strategy to include other media outlets that he believes defamed him. Let's listen.
I think you have to do it because they're very dishonest. I'm going to be bringing one against the people in Iowa, their newspaper, which had a very, very good pollster who got me right all the time. And then just before the election, she said I was going to lose by three or four points, and it became the biggest story all over the world. That was the Des Moines Register, and it was their parent. And in my opinion, it was fraud, and it was election interference. And we'll probably be filing a major lawsuit against them today or tomorrow. We're filing one on 60 Minutes. You know about that. We're involved in one which has been going on for a while and very successfully. against Bob Woodward, where he didn't quote me properly from the tapes.
I just want to note that there's nothing defamatory about 60 Minutes' interview with Kamala Harris, where Donald Trump was not part of his problem in the interview.
John, there's nothing defamatory in any of the things that he describes.
Let's start with ABC then. What was your reaction to the news that they settled, and why do you guys think they did?
I was surprised by how mad and disappointed I was when I saw it. I couldn't believe it. I thought I must be missing something to see them. So this is Disney we're talking about. Now, you might remember Disney famously tried to avoid facing consequences when someone died of an allergy at Disney World by claiming that in the Disney Plus terms of service, they'd been indemnified. I do not remember that. Disney has lawyers. They are famous. They are famously brutal lawyers. And so to see them capitulate in this way, and by the way, if I got any of that wrong, Disney, I'm sorry. Do not revoke his fast pass. Yeah, and don't come after me. Don't come after me. But Disney knows how to fight a frivolous or false lawsuit if it wants to, and it is choosing not to in this case, and that is very disappointing.
And especially in a defamation suit against a public figure, not just a public figure, maybe the highest public figure when it comes to sort of like the political milieu. No, obviously the highest, the president of the United States, the incoming president. You were supposed to have a lot more wiggle room when you're talking about that person. You have to prove there was actual malice in what you said. And George made a mistake. He said that Trump had been found liable for rape when it was actually sexual abuse. Do you offer context?
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