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Breaking up with Ukraine

Tue, 04 Mar 2025

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Why the humiliation of Volodymyr Zelenskyy holds a twisted appeal for Trump's core supporters. And what Europe plans to do about it. This episode was produced by Avishay Artsy and Devan Schwartz, edited by Jolie Myers, fact-checked by Laura Bullard and Kim Eggleston, engineered by Patrick Boyd and Andrea Kristinsdottir, and hosted by Sean Rameswaram. Transcript at vox.com/today-explained-podcast Support Today, Explained by becoming a Vox Member today: http://www.vox.com/members Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy preparing for the European leaders' summit on Ukraine in London. Photo by Justin Tallis - WPA Pool/Getty Images. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Why is the U.S. suspending military aid to Ukraine?

1.023 - 23.942 Sean Rameswaram

It's official. The United States is breaking up with Ukraine. Last night, the president suspended military aid to the country. That's about $1 billion in arms Ukraine isn't getting until it commits to negotiating peace with Russia. That move, of course, comes after a perfect meeting with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky at the Oval Office on Friday. They talked about playing cards.

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23.962 - 30.445 Donald Trump

You don't have the cards right now. With us you start having cards, but right now you're playing cards.

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30.485 - 31.646 Sean Rameswaram

You're playing cards.

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31.686 - 36.707 Donald Trump

You're gambling with the lives of millions of people. You're gambling with World War III.

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36.727 - 38.207 Sean Rameswaram

They talked about being thankful.

38.287 - 39.428 Donald Trump

Have you said thank you once?

39.828 - 42.409 Sean Rameswaram

This entire meeting? They took questions from the crowd.

42.449 - 46.99 Advertisement Narrator

What are you saying? She's asking what if Russia breaks the ceasefire?

47.03 - 50.971 Donald Trump

What if anything? What if a bomb drops on your head right now?

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