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The Megyn Kelly Show

Oval Office Showdown with South Africa's President, Trump Questions Biden's Autopen: AM Update 5/22

Thu, 22 May 2025

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A dramatic Oval Office meeting as President Trump accuses South Africa's leaders of enabling violence against white farmers. President Trump reignites concerns over Joe Biden’s use of the autopen, citing new reporting that suggests Biden wasn’t the one calling the shots. In the ongoing criminal trial of Sean “Diddy” Combs, prosecutors introduce expert testimony on abuse dynamics. Virginia Democrat Gerry Connolly, who the Democratic establishment put up to block AOC in a key House position in December, passes away after a battle with cancer.Ground News: Use the link https://groundnews.com/megynto get 40% off the Vantage subscription to see through mainstream media narratives. Herald Group: Learn more at https://GuardYourCard.com

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Chapter 1: What happens in the Oval Office meeting?

24.744 - 29.888 Donald Trump

You don't sign it, radical left lunatics that were running our country, and the auto pen signed it.

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30.249 - 50.352 Megyn Kelly

President Trump reignites concerns over who was making key decisions during the Biden presidency, as new reporting says Mr. Biden was not calling the shots in his own White House. And the Sean Diddy Combs trial carries on with new testimony from including an expert witness on domestic abuse. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update.

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53.672 - 64.396 Megyn Kelly

Trust in the media is at an all-time low, and let's be honest, it's no mystery why. We have all seen how stories are twisted, buried, or outright ignored, depending on who's in charge or what narrative they want you to believe.

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64.976 - 82.945 Megyn Kelly

But now there's Ground News, an app and website that gathers related articles from around the world in one place, highlighting each source's political bias and corporate influence. Ground News created their Blindspot feed to expose important stories receiving lopsided coverage and reveal how media narratives shape the conversation.

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83.406 - 110.364 Megyn Kelly

And now you get 40% off the same unlimited access to their website and app through the Vantage plan, which you can use to find the truth. Ground News is independent and supported by subscribers, not corporate interests. Check them out at groundnews.com slash Megan. That's G-R-O-U-N-D news.com slash Megan to take back control of the news you consume. A wild confrontation in the Oval Office.

110.985 - 132.053 Megyn Kelly

President Trump welcoming South African President Cyril Ramaphosa a week after the U.S. admitted 59 white refugees from South Africa who say they face discrimination in their home country. President Ramaphosa in January signing a law allowing land seizures without compensation where it is just and equitable and in the public interest.

132.728 - 149.502 Megyn Kelly

White people are about 7% of the population in South Africa, but hold about three-quarters of the farmland. In recent years, many accounts of grisly attacks on the South African farms, including dozens of murders. The South African government does not release statistics on race and crime.

Chapter 2: What accusations does Trump make against South Africa?

149.923 - 170.195 Megyn Kelly

But a South African farmers union reports that of all murders between 1990 and 2017, 87 percent were of whites. President Trump has accused the South African government of allowing a genocide against Afrikaners, a white minority group largely composed of farmers. Mr. Trump getting right to it on Wednesday.

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170.215 - 192.969 Donald Trump

A lot of people are very concerned with regard to South Africa. And that's really the purpose of the meeting. And we'll see how that turns out. But we have many people that feel they're being persecuted and they're coming to the United States. So we take from many, many locations if we feel this persecution or genocide going on. And we had a lot of people.

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Chapter 3: What is the reality of white farmers in South Africa?

193.009 - 211.75 Donald Trump

I must tell you, Mr. President, we have had a tremendous number of people, especially since they've seen this. Generally, they're white farmers and they're fleeing South Africa. And it's a very sad thing to see. But I hope we can have an explanation of that because I know you don't want that.

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212.15 - 218.694 Megyn Kelly

President Ramaphosa emphatically denies accusations of a genocide in his country. One reporter questioning President Trump.

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219.074 - 224.198 Unnamed Guest

What will it take for you to be convinced that there's no white genocide in South Africa?

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224.498 - 253.281 Vice President J.D. Vance

Well, I can answer that for the president. It will take President Trump listening. to the voices of South Africans, some of whom are his good friends, like those who are here. When we have talks between us on a quiet table, it will take President Trump to listen to them. I'm not going to be repeating what I've been saying. I would say if there was Afrikaner farmer genocide, I can bet you

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254.147 - 259.13 Vice President J.D. Vance

These three gentlemen would not be here, including my Minister of Agriculture.

259.47 - 269.495 Donald Trump

We have thousands of stories talking about it. I could show you a couple of things. It has to be responded to. Turn the lights down and just put this on. It's right behind you.

269.515 - 281.922 Unknown Speaker

A revolution demands that at some point there must be killing, because the killing is part of a revolutionary act. Kill the poor, the farmer.

282.605 - 301.213 Megyn Kelly

Following the four-and-a-half-minute video, President Trump flipping through a stack of news articles detailing what he says are vicious crimes perpetrated against white South African farmers. Mr. Trump pointing out that the people in the video calling to shoot and kill white farmers are political leaders chanting to packed stadiums holding 100,000 supporters.

301.833 - 305.835 Megyn Kelly

President Ramaphosa and the South African agricultural minister pushing back.

Chapter 4: How does President Ramaphosa respond to genocide claims?

306.215 - 326.914 Vice President J.D. Vance

What you saw, the speeches that were being made, one, that is not government policy. We have a multi-party democracy in South Africa that allows people to express themselves. Our government policy is completely, completely against what he was saying.

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327.634 - 348.266 South African Agricultural Minister

As the Minister of Agriculture, it is something that I am particularly exercised with my colleagues at police and my colleagues in the justice cluster to stop making farm attacks and stock theft a priority crime. And it affects all farmers in South Africa, particularly stock theft. It has a disproportionate effect on small black farmers.

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348.666 - 371.463 South African Agricultural Minister

I also want to just say this, that the two individuals that are in that video that you've seen are both leaders of opposition minority parties in South Africa. Now, the reason that my party, the Democratic Alliance, which has been an opposition party over 30 years, chose to join hands with Mr. Ramaphosa's party was precisely to keep those people out of power.

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371.483 - 374.405 South African Agricultural Minister

So you denounced that type of language in the video that you saw?

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374.825 - 382.03 Vice President J.D. Vance

Oh, yes. We've always done so. As government, as my own party, we are completely opposed to that.

382.742 - 404.056 Megyn Kelly

The agricultural minister confirming attacks on farmers, but saying they affect black farmers as well, telling Mr. Trump South Africa is seeking new trade and security partnerships to help protect all farmers, specifically highlighting the need for expanded access to Starlink, the satellite Internet company founded by Elon Musk. Mr. Musk, born in South Africa, though now a U.S.

404.096 - 414.764 Megyn Kelly

citizen, is a vocal critic of the country's black economic empowerment laws, which in some cases require companies to be at least 30 percent black-owned in order to operate.

415.425 - 434.618 Megyn Kelly

Bloomberg reporting South African officials held a meeting with Mr. Musk prior to their Oval Office visit, reportedly preparing to offer him a workaround to those racial ownership requirements in order to bring Starlink into the country. Mr. Musk asked about the potential deal on Tuesday. at the Qatar Economic Forum, criticizing the law.

435.119 - 450.971 Unnamed Guest

Bloomberg broke news today that the South African government is working around the rules on black ownership in order to allow Starlink in, and that is being done on the eve of the visit that President Ramaphosa is going to make to the White House. Do you recognize that as a conflict of interest?

Chapter 5: What measures are being taken to protect farmers in South Africa?

Chapter 6: What is the impact of political narratives on media?

53.672 - 64.396 Megyn Kelly

Trust in the media is at an all-time low, and let's be honest, it's no mystery why. We have all seen how stories are twisted, buried, or outright ignored, depending on who's in charge or what narrative they want you to believe.

0

64.976 - 82.945 Megyn Kelly

But now there's Ground News, an app and website that gathers related articles from around the world in one place, highlighting each source's political bias and corporate influence. Ground News created their Blindspot feed to expose important stories receiving lopsided coverage and reveal how media narratives shape the conversation.

0

83.406 - 110.364 Megyn Kelly

And now you get 40% off the same unlimited access to their website and app through the Vantage plan, which you can use to find the truth. Ground News is independent and supported by subscribers, not corporate interests. Check them out at groundnews.com slash Megan. That's G-R-O-U-N-D news.com slash Megan to take back control of the news you consume. A wild confrontation in the Oval Office.

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110.985 - 132.053 Megyn Kelly

President Trump welcoming South African President Cyril Ramaphosa a week after the U.S. admitted 59 white refugees from South Africa who say they face discrimination in their home country. President Ramaphosa in January signing a law allowing land seizures without compensation where it is just and equitable and in the public interest.

0

132.728 - 149.502 Megyn Kelly

White people are about 7% of the population in South Africa, but hold about three-quarters of the farmland. In recent years, many accounts of grisly attacks on the South African farms, including dozens of murders. The South African government does not release statistics on race and crime.

149.923 - 170.195 Megyn Kelly

But a South African farmers union reports that of all murders between 1990 and 2017, 87 percent were of whites. President Trump has accused the South African government of allowing a genocide against Afrikaners, a white minority group largely composed of farmers. Mr. Trump getting right to it on Wednesday.

170.215 - 192.969 Donald Trump

A lot of people are very concerned with regard to South Africa. And that's really the purpose of the meeting. And we'll see how that turns out. But we have many people that feel they're being persecuted and they're coming to the United States. So we take from many, many locations if we feel this persecution or genocide going on. And we had a lot of people.

193.009 - 211.75 Donald Trump

I must tell you, Mr. President, we have had a tremendous number of people, especially since they've seen this. Generally, they're white farmers and they're fleeing South Africa. And it's a very sad thing to see. But I hope we can have an explanation of that because I know you don't want that.

212.15 - 218.694 Megyn Kelly

President Ramaphosa emphatically denies accusations of a genocide in his country. One reporter questioning President Trump.

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