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Announcing My Next Investigative Series… | Candace Ep 151

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I don't understand how these women think their only road to financial success is to marry a rich guy or get pregnant by a rich guy and make him pay for your lifestyle. To me, it's so disempowering. Go earn your own money. If you want to be rich, if you want a nice damn apartment, why don't you work? Why don't you earn it? Why are you just trying to bag some rich guy? It's so up. It's wrong.

Candace

Announcing My Next Investigative Series… | Candace Ep 151

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It's just, I feel like, okay. And then I'm almost done. If you do bang the rich guy, and if you do get pregnant with his child, then when it doesn't work out, Be dignified about it. Don't go on Twitter. I don't believe her on the tabloid story. I don't believe her because it doesn't seem like she doesn't want publicity. She did the whole big spread with the New York Post. She wants publicity.

Candace

Announcing My Next Investigative Series… | Candace Ep 151

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Even if a tabloid was about to break it, then they break it and you say nothing. That's the classy highbrow way of handling this. She seems to want the attention and also at the same time want our sympathy. And I'm having a really difficult time giving it to her.

Candace

Announcing My Next Investigative Series… | Candace Ep 151

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This week, we've been following the trial of Hunter Biden on charges he illegally purchased and possessed a gun while he was abusing drugs back in 2018. Well, that same year, just weeks before he bought that gun, a young woman from Arkansas gave birth to his child, a little girl. For years, Hunter Biden denied that he was the father of Navy Joan Roberts until a DNA test proved otherwise.

Candace

Announcing My Next Investigative Series… | Candace Ep 151

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After that, Hunter Biden finally started to support the child financially, only to come back and ask to pay much less than he had originally promised. Through it all, President Joe Biden, who prides himself on telling us about what a close knit family he has, refused to acknowledge this little girl at all.

Candace

Announcing My Next Investigative Series… | Candace Ep 151

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After Joe Biden was elected president at Christmastime in 2021 and 2022, the Bidens decorated a White House fireplace with stockings stitched with the names of six grandchildren. No stocking for their seventh little Navy. In fact, as recently as April 2023, President Biden suggested on camera that he only had six, not seven grandchildren.

Candace

Announcing My Next Investigative Series… | Candace Ep 151

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But last year, Little Navy's mother, London Roberts, and Hunter reached a new agreement. And President Biden finally acknowledged Navy in a statement put out late on a Friday on a summer evening. London Roberts is out later this summer with a tell-all book. It is called Out of the Shadows, My Life Inside the Wild World of Hunter Biden. And it's available for pre-order now. And it is riveting.

Candace

Announcing My Next Investigative Series… | Candace Ep 151

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You write in the book, it's pretty extraordinary that you hear on the other side of the doorway, the F word. So you go in, you push the door open, wondering what's happening there. And you see a man sitting in an office chair, leaning over a small desk, meticulously organizing a series of small glass tubes and copper strands. He looks determined.

Candace

Announcing My Next Investigative Series… | Candace Ep 151

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He isn't wearing after party clothes like everyone else. Instead, he's sitting there in brightly colored boxer briefs with parrots all over them. I'm intrigued. He turns in his chair and catches me in his stare, his gaze intense with furrowed brows and the most beautiful blue-gray eyes I've ever seen.

Candace

Announcing My Next Investigative Series… | Candace Ep 151

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What an amazing thing, London, to think that man who you met in that moment would become the father. of Little Navy, your only child. I mean, your only child, at least soon at that point. Right. So when you look back at that moment, what made you stay and continue talking to this man when you met him in his boxers with drug paraphernalia everywhere?

Candace

Announcing My Next Investigative Series… | Candace Ep 151

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Harvey Weinstein, who believed in us and made this movie.

Candace

Announcing My Next Investigative Series… | Candace Ep 151

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It's just that horrible ass-boil that does not go away.

Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin

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So yesterday we had hearings for Kash Patel, Tulsi Gabbard and the second day for RFKJ. I sat in for an hour plus of the Tulsi hearing and it was rather disheartening. I did not feel encouraged about her chances by the time I was done. But then later I felt encouraged when I heard what Susan Collins said.

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To me, it's so infuriating. I give my kids all the vaccines. They're not vaccine injured, thank God. By the way, highly recommend the shingles vaccine as an adult because you can get it in your eye. It's just disgusting. Anyway, apparently it's very painful too, but that's an adult. That's an adult decision. You can decide whether you want these vaccines or not. But...

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Bobby Kennedy, they were all over him on the vaccines. As the audience now knows, he was on the show for four hours. We just spent two, two full hours on vaccines and not covid vaccines. These vaccines that he's getting cross examined over MMR vaccine and his long history of alleged vaccine denialism that he got cross examined over, over and over and over and over again.

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And the long and the short of it is Bobby Kennedy jumped up and down and said, there's mercury in these vaccines, and I don't know that it's safe. And they said, you're crazy. It's totally safe. You're a nutcase. And what wound up happening? They took it out. And we went to all of Bobby Kennedy's critics who said, He's got this problem with mercury in the vaccines. Mercury is totally safe.

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It's safe. It's safe. And then Bobby Kennedy came out and he explained this all on our show about how it was methylmercury that they were saying was safe. But and they said that it was problematic, but it was this other ethylmercury. And long story short, the one that they said was totally unassailable stayed in the brain of the monkeys that were tested for months afterward.

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It's he explains it all. All right. Good luck challenging him on the science behind the vaccines. The bottom line is they took out the mercury that the same group that had been saying it's safe, it's safe, it's safe, it's safe, took it out. Not because of him. They had a closed door meeting and they said, you know what, let's let's remove it. But there's nothing to see here.

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There's nothing to see here. And then they put aluminum in these vaccines, which works. It's not exactly a preservative. It does something else for the vaccines. But that, too, is a potential neurotoxin. And then they say, it's nothing, it's nothing, it's nothing. Just shove it in your baby and don't give it two thoughts.

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But all of this is going on while the toxic stew that our children are swimming in was growing exponentially from the pollutants in their water and the fluorine and the chloride to the pollutants in their food to the pollutants that is on your sofa and the baby toys and the baby bottles and all around them. And Bobby Kennedy has been saying, can we just pause a little to figure out

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who is this kind of Democrat masquerading as a Republican from Maine, said about her impressions. I mean, Trump lost her on Hegseth. I don't think he's going to get her on RFKJ. I don't know. But here's what I saw when she cross-examined Tulsi yesterday. Let's start there. Look at this exchange in SOT9. Have you ever knowingly met with any members, leaders, or affiliates of Hezbollah?

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what's causing this? Why are the allergies doing this? Why are the ticks doing this? Why is the autism doing this? Why was this something you never even heard of when I was a child to something that is one in 30 now? And they look at him and they say, you're a kook. You're dangerous. You, you're dangerous. It's infuriating.

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It's infuriating to be standing on my side of the aisle with children or yours and to just, and again, with, with God, Thank God, perfectly healthy children to say, why are you so determined to stop the questions? And the COVID vaccine is even a more persuasive case where you've got young boys, 15 year old boys with myocarditis dying, dying, and they won't acknowledge it.

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It's truly like the warning labels are like, you could try this to decrease your skin itchiness, but it may cause testicular boils. It's like, wait, whoa, whoa.

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Who in their right mind would sign on to that? I do want to say this to Senator Cassidy, whose vote we really need in with all due respect. And by the way, I asked the audience to call his office yesterday and give him the number. And I said I would call. And I did. I personally called. It was actually very funny. They took the number down. The guy was like, the the Megyn Kelly?

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I'm like, yes, the Megyn Kelly. I want you. And he was like, do you live in Louisiana? I'm like, no, but I have a loud mouth and I have a lot of listeners who do. OK, they took the number down. But here's the email that you're supposed I asked. And they told me the email is Hannah H-A-N-N-A-H underscore bar B-A-R-R at Cassidy dot Senate dot gov.

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No, and it is an absurd accusation. Okay, so there's Tulsi pushing back on her. The cross-examination by Susan Collins wasn't particularly aggressive, but it kind of sounded like that. You could argue that she was just giving her a chance to respond to the things that have been alleged about her. But you could hear Tulsi sort of taking issue with even the suggestion.

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Hannah underscore bar H-A-N-N-A-H underscore B-A-R-R at Cassidy dot Senate dot gov. And I think with all due respect to Hannah, and I'm sure she's a lovely person, and Senator Cassidy follows me on X, so I'm sure he saw the post I sent his way yesterday. They need to hear from us directly. And here's why I feel so passionately about it, Charlie.

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Forget all that stuff about MMR vaccine, which will not be banned. Trump has said it will not be banned. Bobby has said it will not be banned. Bobby's past work to ask questions about it is in the past. He's not going to make this an issue. He's made that really clear. He has his beliefs about it, but Trump is the boss.

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Look at the COVID vaccine and what you said, how no one's allowed to ask questions about it. One of the people I ran into when I showed up at the RFKJ hearing was a guy named Carl Warner. And, and I know Kyle, Kyle Warner, because he came on the show.

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Exactly right. He's a mountain biker. And he came on the show during the height of the COVID nonsense and told his story. He's from, he lives in Oregon. All right. This is not some far right dude and talked about what happened to him after this vaccine. And, And here's a clip of it. Watch.

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I don't I'm only anxious now because my heart is racing and I'm worried about my heart. It's episode 222. It's very worth your time to go back and listen to Kyle's story. There's a reason he showed up. This is about more than the MMR vaccine, which is fine. It's in place. It's not going anywhere.

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It's about a whole, I know it gets overused, but medical industrial complex that cares more about hooking you on drugs like SSRIs and taking every single vaccine so that they can make a ton of money like Pfizer did, like Moderna did. They cannot be sued. And then they don't care. When you get vaccine injured like Kyle, they don't give a shit. Well, RFKJ cares. Jay Bhattacharya is going to care.

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Marty McCary, ideally at FDA, is going to care. And you need a disruptor like RFKJ at the top to run herd on it. Someone who will not be bullied by these behemoths who have more money than God.

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Well, after the fact, Collins said, I was happy. with her responses to my questions. That, too, is a little ambiguous. What does that mean? Like you were happy she fully answered them or you liked what you heard? But I think it's somewhat positive. Net net. I don't think she would have used the word happy if she were going to vote against her.

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What is Callie Means saying? What is Dr. Casey Means behind him saying? They are talking about the toxins all throughout our society. Nicole Shanahan, who is RFKG's running mate. All these people are talking about what causes the obesity. You know, you may be right that it's not entirely your fault, but the solution for a 13-year-old is not Ozempic.

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It's to get him off of nonstop processed foods, which make you more fat to get him off of seed oils, which I mean, go back. And there's a lot of medical research on this now that talk about how that makes you more prone to hold on to your fat. Why are we demonizing meat? Right. And lionizing bread for these kids like that. This this team is going to stop all of that.

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And they're just, you know, whistling into the wind right now because they're being painted as a bunch of new age kooks. I totally agree with you. And honestly, like I know Ozempic has helped a lot of people, but it is a totally different game when you are an adult and you are capable of assessing risk versus being a child. I also want to say something else. There was a. Singer?

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I saw her video on X. I didn't know this young woman. But she said she was only like 19 or 20 and she went on Ozempic and she was warning everybody that it caused massive bone density loss, that she was already suffering from osteoporosis and osteoporina. I forget the word.

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Yeah. This is – I suffered from osteoporosis. This is years ago. This is even before Ozempic was a thing. I just wound up having kind of old lady bones. I don't know why. It happens a lot to thin women who aren't like – it can be helpful to be a heavier person because like you're pounding your bones while you walk and a lot of thin women wind up with this condition.

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Anyway, not for nothing, I've said this before, but I did go on this once a month injectable drug called E-Venity for whatever it's worth for 12 months. And truly it like cured the osteoporosis. Like it was gone. And yeah, I got to do a maintenance routine for like a year, the three years I think it is. But it's a miracle. For me, it was a miracle drug. Check with your own doctor, do all that.

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But I just wanted that young woman. I don't know how to reach this young woman, but I'm like, she should know about this. Not everybody knows about this drug. Okay, so anyway. That's RFKJ. I don't know what's going to happen with him. Do you want to handicap that one?

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Now, that doesn't answer the question of whether Tulsi gets through, because there are a lot of Republican senators there who seem to not like fans of Tulsi's. Cornyn of Texas, Lankford of Oklahoma, they did not seem like fans, Charlie. And she certainly had a few Democrats who seemed very against her. So what do you think is going to happen with Tulsi?

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The risk in them doing it is – what we think is that if she – if they sink her nomination, it will be the Republicans who sink her. I mean that's what's going to happen here because they have the majority.

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But they were even harder on her yesterday than the Dems. Honestly, it was like – it was tough to find somebody who sounded like they were going to defend her. She handled herself beautifully. I mean she was – articulate and poised and strong and unflappable. It was to the point where I was there and I brought my assistant, Abby, who comes with me pretty much everywhere.

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And Abby's got two young daughters. And she said, I'm going to make my daughters watch this. I want them to see this. She always looks for strong, articulate women so she can show her young girls. Look at that. Like that's possible. You can be that. And that's so great. That's how strong she was. She never, never lost her cool. I mean, it was actually an example in how to handle yourself.

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There was absolutely no warmth coming her way from the other side of the aisle. I mean, I should mean, I mean, across the hearing room, whether you were on the left or the right. So I left worried. And my pal Glenn Greenwald, who's a big Tulsi advocate, is worried, too. And I just don't even know what to do to help her, Charlie. I don't I'm not sure.

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All right, let's talk about RFKJ. So I didn't get to the soundbite yesterday, but there was a pretty extraordinary... There were a couple of extraordinary exchanges in his day two in front of the health committee confirmation hearing. He had to go through two. And Rand Paul is just a star. I mean, he... Good luck challenging Rand Paul on medical issues. Just ask Dr. Fauci how that went.

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Rand Paul is one of the reasons Dr. Fauci felt he needed a pardon because it seemed clear that Dr. Fauci lied to Rand Paul's face repeatedly while under oath about his gain of function, involvement, and so on. And Rand Paul just knew the questions to ask Dr. Fauci during the relevant time. He's been very fearless.

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So he used his time at this confirmation hearing to respond to Senator Cassidy, who also is a doctor. And Senator Cassidy of Louisiana. Cassidy's a problem. He's a problem. He's a pivotal, pivotal vote on this. So I'm going to set it up by showing you Cassidy and RFKJ on vaccines. And then I'm going to show Rand Paul using his time to respond to it. I mean, it may all come down to this.

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So take a look at Cassidy in SOC 20.

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So in response to that, here's Rand Paul, Sat 21.

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I mean, that's what Rand Paul understands.

PBD Podcast

Signal War Plans Scandal EXPLODES | PBD Podcast | Ep. 566

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Mr. Trump. I love this. One of the things people love about you is you speak your mind and you don't use a politician's filter. However, that is not without its downsides, in particular when it comes to women.

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Signal War Plans Scandal EXPLODES | PBD Podcast | Ep. 566

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You're called women you don't like fat pigs, dogs, slobs, and disgusting animals. Watch him like cock back. Here we go. Ding, ding, ding. Your Twitter account. Only Rosie O'Donnell.

The Brett Cooper Show

The Feminist Celebrity Astronauts Who Saved the World | Episode 24

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Deploy from the crew capsule. Those are like the guide parachutes.

The Brett Cooper Show

The Feminist Celebrity Astronauts Who Saved the World | Episode 24

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We're supposed to be celebrating them. Somehow it's supposed to be empowering because not enough women have gone up into space. What we mean is not enough are astronauts. Not enough women are astronauts. That's what we mean. We don't mean, please put Gayle King in yet another opportunity for her to try to act like a star while she's next to Oprah. I don't feel empowered.

The Brett Cooper Show

The Feminist Celebrity Astronauts Who Saved the World | Episode 24

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This is like another, it's female White House press corps day at the White House. If they had been six astronauts going up there, then yes, okay. What did they do? The one gal is engaged to a billionaire and these are a bunch of celebrities she wanted to befriend. Okay. Of course, Lauren Shands has, whatever her name, had to show off her tits.

The Brett Cooper Show

The Feminist Celebrity Astronauts Who Saved the World | Episode 24

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Okay, it's a little early in the hour to be dropping the T word. Her breasts in her little fake astronaut outfit. Because, you know, what's a day if we don't get to see the girls on Lauren Sanchez?

The Brett Cooper Show

Can Women Have it All? | Episode 10

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This woman is accusing Elon of impregnating her and not, I guess, negotiating with her on the care of the child, or at least not to the point where she's happy with the negotiation. All I can think as I look at this is. Your life is the way it is because you decided it would be. Because of your choices, madam. You can have a swanky New York apartment.

The Brett Cooper Show

Can Women Have it All? | Episode 10

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You could earn money and actually wind up renting one yourself. You could also find a man who wants to marry you and raise children with you. and who won't have other women in his life at the same time. All of this is available to you.

The Brett Cooper Show

Can Women Have it All? | Episode 10

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You do not have to make a choice where you try to bang the billionaire to get his baby so that he'll put you up in some lavish New York City apartment and take care of you for the rest of his life and then be shocked, shocked when he doesn't actually want to have a relationship with you. And the only way you can maybe get him to respond to you is via tweet. I'm sorry, but again, you made choices.

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They were very bad ones.

The Daily

'The Interview': Megyn Kelly Is Embracing Her Bias and Rejecting the 'Old Rules'

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Correct. Bravo, which is owned by NBC, had a real housewife in Washington. And there was a push to not cancel her, but get her in trouble. And so we had a discussion on my show where I asked, when did that become unacceptable? Because when I grew up in the 70s and the 80s, people used to do it, and it was considered okay. And at the time, I knew that. I knew that had been my experience.

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'The Interview': Megyn Kelly Is Embracing Her Bias and Rejecting the 'Old Rules'

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I just didn't know that NBC had been airing shows with people doing it, like Scrubs. There were so many examples. But I didn't have it at the ready because I wasn't expecting a huge controversy over it. Really? Yeah. Yeah. At the time, I just thought— But, you know, everyone understands that blackface is racist. Now they do. But when did it go from something that people used to do—

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you know, with impunity, hello, Justin Trudeau, to something that will get you canceled. And for me, you know, we talked about the two sort of joint traumas during the Fox years, the late Fox years. Personally, that NBC, it dwarfed those. So by the time that ended, I was like, this industry is a disgusting, toxic stew of hatred and darkness. And why would I want to go back into it?

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You know, now I have some money. Now I'm with my kids. You know, I can raise my family. Maybe this is the time I ride into the sunset and find a third version of me professionally.

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'The Interview': Megyn Kelly Is Embracing Her Bias and Rejecting the 'Old Rules'

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Oh, well, I mean, I had been rendered entirely toxic. So I guess I never really tested it. I wasn't out seeking jobs at that time, right? It wasn't like, gee, will anyone still have me? But I understood that I had been rendered toxic.

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'The Interview': Megyn Kelly Is Embracing Her Bias and Rejecting the 'Old Rules'

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I can't have, I don't do well with bosses, as it turns out. I'm not that easy to control as an employee. I'm just kind of past the bullshit. And also that the landscape had changed back in 20, you know, I was on my couch, figuratively, like all of 2019 and the beginning of 2020. And the country was losing its mind. That was peak wokeism.

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You know, where when it came to race, when it came to gender, when it came to any LGBTQ, it was like we were going nuts. And I am not a woke person. It's one of my core missions in life to defeat wokeism. Anyway, there was no way I could go work for another broadcast news outlet that was going to be like NBC was. I definitely couldn't go back to Fox.

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'The Interview': Megyn Kelly Is Embracing Her Bias and Rejecting the 'Old Rules'

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Well, the practice of law definitely toughened me up. Because while I was always comfortable with public speaking, I wasn't necessarily comfortable arguing and standing up for myself and coming under attack and being able to hold my own. And so law school helped with that. And then before I went to Jones Day, I did two years at Bickel & Brewer. Same mentality, which is kill or be killed.

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'The Interview': Megyn Kelly Is Embracing Her Bias and Rejecting the 'Old Rules'

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That bridge had already been burned on my way out, and I wasn't in a great place with the executives or the owners. So it was like, what could I possibly do? Like, what's an avenue available to me? And that's when Ben Shapiro called me, who... I think he would tell you I helped him make his name. I put him on the Kelly file regularly and helped make him a star.

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'The Interview': Megyn Kelly Is Embracing Her Bias and Rejecting the 'Old Rules'

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And he saw me down and out and he said, MK, this is a real lane for you. And he was just saying it as a friend. And I wasn't quite ready at first, but then he called me again and said, you got to get back out there. And, um, He said, why don't you come out here to the Daily Wire and just see what we're doing?

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'The Interview': Megyn Kelly Is Embracing Her Bias and Rejecting the 'Old Rules'

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And I, whatever, kicked the tires on this new lane and thought, this is what I want to do. Why? Because I was my own boss. I could be in charge of all my own editorial. No one could tell me what to do, what to say, what not to say. I could have long-form conversations about really tough issues that were bubbling up in the country at the time.

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I didn't have to do it in a seven-minute segment or a three-minute segment like I used to have to do on linear television. It was just a whole new world to me. It was the Wild West to me. And I loved that feeling.

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'The Interview': Megyn Kelly Is Embracing Her Bias and Rejecting the 'Old Rules'

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And I feel looser, you know, in that. Anchor sense. But if you really want to make it as an individual, like in this lane, without a platform supporting you, you know, where they're tuning in because it's Fox News, you know, and you just follow the person before you who they really liked. There has to be a connection between your audience and you. Otherwise, what's the point?

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And so I did start to share more of my own opinions. And frankly, I started to form more of my own opinions. Tell me about that. Form your own opinions. Well, because I was never really that political, as I said, growing up. One of the reasons I think I did well at Fox in the news division was I didn't really feel the need to choose a side.

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I just felt the need to learn everything I could about both of the sides and then mediate a good debate. Then it wasn't until really I got on this show that it was a different job. It was more like they wanted to know what I thought. That was clear. The audience wanted to know my opinion. And so on a lot of subjects, I had to really start thinking about them.

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Like even today, we're having a debate about tariffs. I don't know how I feel about tariffs. I've never really given it a lot of thought. So I'm working on my opinion on tariffs. But there have been a million subjects like that over the past four or five years that I've really just had to question where I stand.

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I think I can. I don't agree with that. Yeah. Because I can still hit Trump and do. You know, there's no question that I owned my bias on Trump and crossed a line that I had never crossed before and never would have crossed when I was still straight news, ever.

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It's just this weird new hybrid lane I'm in that even made it a possibility in my mind, you know, that I even allowed myself to consider saying yes to the invitation. And it was another before and after moment because for sure you're crossing a line. But I had crossed it prior to then. I had crossed it the day Biden handed down his Title IX revisions.

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And it was known for its, quote, Rambo litigation tactics. So when I was very young, 24, that was very sexy to me. I thought that was extremely cool. And I love the thought of what that could do to me. I thought that those guys would toughen me up, would take what I had learned in law school and bring it next level. And they did.

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And I was so angry about what he did that I went on my show that day and said, I'm voting for Donald Trump. And I had never done that.

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I don't think it was me caving, it was me rising. It was me answering something I truly felt called to do. I'm thrilled Trump won. I shudder to think of what the country would be right now if Kamala Harris had won. In the end, I had no qualms about going out there for him whatsoever. And I accept and agree with you that there are different gradations. It is a different level.

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I hope so. I mean, that was my goal in helping him, especially with women. Yeah. And I wanted to look them in the eyes, figuratively, and say... Trust me. You know I'm pro-woman. And you know I've expressed doubts about him in the past about some of the choices he's made when it came to dealing with women. But there is no other choice for women in this election.

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And I stand by that wholeheartedly for all the reasons I listed that night. Like, I knew that I could be of help to him. I knew, given the relationship with him, that I would be a different kind of endorser that actually might—

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potentially make a difference for him with a certain set of people who were looking for permission to vote for him because they'd been told universally that he was bad, that he was Hitler, that he was a rapist, that all these things that people have been saying. And I felt the obligation to go tell them how I really feel about him and why I feel that way.

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Yeah. So I don't agree with you on the credibly accused. I actually don't believe that. But with respect to my own situation, you have to zoom out and look what was happening at the time, which was not easy for me when I was going through it. But Trump was trying to win a presidential election. And so, as I pointed out earlier, it was useful to him to have me as a foil.

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Look, you have to separate when you're in this business. You the person and you the professional. Megyn Kelly the woman and Megyn Kelly the brand. And they were attacking Megyn Kelly the brand, which is fair game. You know, I had thrown a very tough ball right at Trump's face in that debate.

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Look, I've been very public about thinking he went too far. You know, that's how I felt at the time. And if I could go back and undo it, I would. But I have a better perspective on why it happened now. You know, it was actually an important piece of his rise within the Republican Party in the primary. And it just showed people what a fighter he was.

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The same guy who got up bloodied in Butler, Pennsylvania, was the guy who was like a dog with a bone with me, who wouldn't let it go. He's got this fighter instinct. And if you cross him or if you do something he finds unjust, he will stay on you until he's satisfied the thing has been resolved to his satisfaction.

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You don't believe any of that? I think the most serious thing I've heard about him has been the E. Jean Carroll allegation that he sexually assaulted her in a Bergdorf house. dressing room. And I don't believe one word of that. There's many.

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But look, the things I heard was were included things like he got handsy on an airplane. Now, I don't know whether that happened or it didn't. But do I find that a deal breaker for a possible politician? Not really. At least I reported on their stories. And did them the courtesy of bringing them to air in front of millions of people and let the audience make up its mind.

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My problem is more with these Democrats who will bury these allegations against their candidates or their candidates' spouses and then play holier than thou when they're looking at Donald Trump.

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No, I'm still a journalist. I mean, I break news all the time, and when I sit with Trump or anybody else in the administration, I ask tough questions. I mean, as recently as September of 23, I interviewed Trump, and he got so mad at me, he didn't talk to me for six or seven months. So it's not— Look, it's a tough job to do. You have to be able to hit the people you admire. And I do.

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You know, I've hit them all. Right before the election, I ripped on Trump's Madison Square Garden rally as too bro-tastic and got specific about why. You have to understand, like, if you haven't sold your soul, you have to be willing to criticize the people even that you admire on your, quote, side.

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I'm going to have fun. It was one thing. What did you like about it? Oh, God, everything. Everything. I loved the storytelling. I loved getting a story. I loved having that extra nugget that nobody else had. I loved the excitement and the pressure, the EU stress, which is the more positive stress you can invite into your life, of having to be on, you know, of like...

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And my owning my bias by going out there on stage with Donald Trump and saying, I'm voting for him and you should too, is a bonus when it comes to my credibility. Now, everybody has zero doubt about where I stand and they can filter everything I say through the appropriate lens.

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What typically happens in journalism is they say they have no bias and then they just work it out in the printed word or on their shows without owning it. But the audience knows it and it creates a distrust and a divide. When it comes to Trump and me, no. My own personal opinion is most of the allegations against him are much more complicated than the mainstream media would have you believe.

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And I don't think Donald Trump is a rapist or a sexual assaulter. I do think he's taken inappropriate liberties with women and gotten handsy with them in a way he's owned himself. Okay? Years ago when he was a celebrity – and it is what it is. That's the past – But it's just about so much more than that.

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We are talking about how many people dying at the southern border because of the invasion that we've suffered under Joe Biden. We're talking about Lakin Riley, whose killer was let in under Biden. We put him on a taxpayer flight down to Georgia where he murdered her. I don't give a shit about Trump getting handsy with somebody 20 years ago. I want someone who will close the border, which he has.

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I want someone who will keep boys out of my daughter's sports, which he has. I want someone who will stand up to the insane DEI policies so that white kids will stop hearing in school that they're born with some original sin from which they cannot recover, which he has.

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Can I rein back in the opinion me and like do what I used to do without sharing it as much and just sort of be straight down the middle? If sometimes opinionated, I could, but I don't have any interest in that. And I actually don't think that's the model for the future either. Tell me what you mean by that. I just think that mode of journalism is dying, if not dead.

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I think the future involves direct relationships between individual journalists and their audience or personalities. They don't all have to consider themselves journalists and their audience.

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The reality right now or the way it's been for the past three decades prior to the last couple of years is everyone is siloed and they're all getting only leftist information. There's like the people who watch Fox and then everybody else. There is a monopoly on opinion and political bias, mostly by the left and media. And a couple have popped up that have done all right. Fox, they do very well.

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The Wall Street Journal is doing okay. And that's it. You've had talk radio, which was the only place conservatives could go to hear their ideas debated in a way that wasn't disdainful. And now that lane has been broadened out to more radio and digital, where you have more conservative personalities dominating. Because necessity is the mother of all invention.

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Because there are more conservatives in the country now than there are liberals. The country's more right-leaning than it is left. Why wouldn't they be the dominant forces in media, in mainstream so-called media? Because there's a monopoly. There's control. There's control over sports. There's control over corporate America. There's control over media.

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the fight-or-flight instinct coming on behind your neck, like the tiny hairs being up because you've got to go, and there's not a second go at it. You're alive. Go. So I just felt completely alive, and I also felt that what I was doing mattered. One of the reasons I chose journalism when I was considering a second career was 9-11 hit, and I was 30, and I was watching TV that day

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And Republicans have had this one strain, and Fox News has been very important, but they needed to invent a new area of thought because even Fox wasn't enough and actually didn't represent all Republican voices. So I do think now that this other thing has been invented, the old thing is a dinosaur. It's dying a slow and painful death. Part of it is tragic because we do need reporters.

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We need news gatherers. And I am not somebody who says the Times should go out of business. I still subscribe to the Times. I also subscribe to the Journal and I subscribe to the New York Post. I think it's important to have news gatherers out there getting news. And people like me cannot exist without Without that, you know, I need content. I need news to talk about and report on.

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But the model for, you know, how that news is presented is deeply, deeply flawed. And it led to me. And it's going to lead to a much different future for those organizations.

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I feel like part of our discussion before and today is getting at something that, like our wires are crossing. Your wires and my wires are crossing in a way.

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I'm in favor of it. Yeah. I share his feelings. Like most people on the right, I have a healthy amount of loathing for a large portion of the media. And they are fake news. And Trump did a very effective job of pointing that out. And he had to because they were all against him. So what was his choice other than to try to demonize them as a group?

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And rather than proving him wrong, they leaned in and tried extra hard to really convince people of what he was saying. That's what happened, especially over Trump 1.0. He played a role, but it was really their decision, but they needed a little bit of help and he provided it.

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Pete Hegseth is an interesting one. And I would just say, like, he's a good example of what I was saying to you yesterday about how we have an approach that irrespective of who I voted for, We try to make it relentlessly factual. When the allegations against him that he allegedly raped somebody came out, we sat on the show and went line by line through the police report. And it was brutal.

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And I prefer a president who understands how to be strong and how to fight. I hope all of you do what I did last week. Vote Trump and get 10 friends to vote Trump too.

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And we did not care that he was a Trump appointee. We did not care that he was a former friend and colleague of mine at Fox. We read every single allegation against him and went through it with the audience with an open mind. Good luck finding somebody else who did that. It didn't happen.

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having an unfamiliar emotion watching some of the reporters, in addition to all the other horrible emotions that we were watching in the event. And that was envy. I remember watching Ashley Banfield, and she was so cool under enormous pressure and thinking, she's doing such a service right now, and you can't see her sweat under the scariest possible circumstances. You could put a reporter.

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The latter. I really wasn't political. I was raised a Democrat, sort of. We never talked about politics in my household, but I knew my parents were Democrats. And, you know, my Nana, God bless her, she lived to 101. She used to say, Republicans are for rich people. We're not rich. She's from New Jersey. That's her New Jersey accent. So I just always thought of myself as a Democrat.

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And then when I started practicing law and saw what was happening to my paycheck, I started to get a little bit more fiscally conservative. And Jones Day had some more Republicans, more than I'd ever been exposed to anyway. And so I started to be more open-minded to the right. And then when I was getting into journalism, I met Bill Salmon, who was working in the D.C. office of Fox News.

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I think at that time he was still a contributor. And he said, you've got to get your tape to Kim Hume. I said, oh, I think maybe I'm too green. I don't know. I knew Fox was like a thing. And he said, you're not too green. And if you are, she'll tell you you are. But I hadn't even given a thought to their politics.

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And Roger Ailes was the first one to say to me, how did a daughter of two Democrats, a nurse and a college professor, wind up a fair and balanced person? And he was not saying I want a Republican who does news the Republican way. And even when I was starting to anchor on Fox, he loved it. If I had a contentious interview with a Republican... He never said, like, don't do that.

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And in fact, he told other anchors, you should watch Megan. Do more of that.

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It's probably because it was good TV. Roger loved Republicans and wasn't too keen on the Democrats. But he would say to me, make sure you smile a lot. And he wasn't wrong about that because if you're all sharp elbows, it's off-putting and someone doesn't see anything in you to connect with.

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But, you know, when I went out on the air for contentious interviews, I always approached them with somewhat more of a prosecutorial approach. Even though I never was a prosecutor, people mistake that about me. It's just more how I am, especially if there's somebody who I think is a villain. And every time I did it, I only got rewarded. I never got my hand slapped by Roger.

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You know, he did think it made good TV, and that's the nature of broadcast journalism. It's helpful if you're dynamic on the air and if you have a knack for making electric moments. Ask Donald Trump. This is something he knows instinctively. But... I would just follow my instincts.

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If somebody was making me irritated and I felt that thing in the back of my throat, like across from an Anthony Weiner or, as the case was, Dick Cheney, I'd know it's time to double barrel it.

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Well, initially he was annoyed. I think it was sincere anger that night. He did not appreciate that question. And I think he thought we were friends. So he was even more annoyed by it. He felt betrayed. Why did he think you were friends? We'd been friendly, you know, just through Fox. He had invited me to a couple of the Apprentice extravaganzas.

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I'd interviewed him quite a few times on Fox in my younger years. There was a very funny exchange, I think in 2010, where He let me feel his hair to see whether it was real. You know, so I think he thought I was a fan. And I think he thought I should be a fan. You know, that I was at Fox and I kind of looked like somebody who he would typically do well with.

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And he kind of put me in this category of she's on my team. And while I had nothing against him and I wasn't not on his team prior to that moment, as you know, as soon as they throw their hat in the political ring, when you're a straight news journalist, it becomes somewhat adversarial. You know, you're not on their team. And in fact, you get paid to be somewhat abrasive toward them.

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And so the relationship does change, just given the nature of what news people do. So the week before that debate, I had been discussing not with him, but with somebody else, the Michael Cohen statement that you can't rape your wife.

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Michael Cohen had said this in defense of Trump, who had been accused by his first wife, Ivana, of having raped her in the course of their first marriage or divorce or in some explosive argument, an allegation she later recanted. And I was knocking Michael Cohen for the ridiculous assertion that one cannot rape one's wife. Well, he did not like that.

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Trump was watching and he called me up and he told me something to the effect of he didn't want to see any more segments like that on the Kelly file. And I told him he doesn't control the editorial on the Kelly file. And he screamed at me and hung up on me. This is the week before the debate. And then he kept calling Fox executives and complaining about me. I think his spidey senses were up that

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You know, maybe I'm not in the friend camp anymore and something could happen at this debate that might not be good for him. So here's the second thing. So in the beginning, I think he was genuinely angry. But I think it quickly turned to he liked it as a storyline. And he wasn't wrong that it was good for him to show the world and in particular America.

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Republican voters who felt disaffected or abandoned by the party, that there were no sacred cows for Trump, even in the Republican Party, even at Fox News, even in the primetime in Roger's chosen favorite anchors. No one. That he would fight anyone.

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No. It was such an annoying nine months. You know, I did not want to take an armed guard to Disney World. I did not want this to go on and on. I knew it wasn't good for me as a journalist, as a Fox News host, or as a person, you know, to have this level of acrimony constantly at me. And I desperately wanted him to just lay off.

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So it was just a stressful time when you're just kind of waiting for somebody who's very angry with you and toying with you to, I don't know, get focused on something else or have those feelings wane enough that they're reachable.

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Very much so, yes. They weren't really angry about the Trump stuff. They were angry about me not supporting Roger. And they never got past it. And I mean, in a way, I feel like my career there ended when I called Lachlan Murdoch to tell him the truth about how my relationship with Roger was when I was a first year reporter at Fox.

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They just, you have to understand, it's almost cult-like over there. At least it was back then. And he was the cult leader. And you don't turn on the cult leader anymore. And so much more so than with the Trump thing, which I think everybody understood Trump, what he was doing. And there were some who took it personally.

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Hannity and I fought publicly over what he perceived as my non-support of Trump. So that's not a surprise to anybody. But for the most part, no one cared about that. It was the Roger thing that turned my relationships at Fox and just made it an impossible place for me to stay. And so I knew I couldn't stay, and I left.

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When you asked me that question, I got a chill through my body. That's how big that moment was for me. It's like one of the hardest, most complicated things I've ever done because I really cared about Roger. And we had gotten past his harassment of me, which, for the record, never led anywhere. I did not submit to any of his advances. And I had forgiven him, and he had done so much for me.

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And I did not want to hurt him. And I didn't like Gretchen Carlson, who was kind of looking for help, you know, in a way. The whole question was, could he be this thing that she's alleged he is? And I was really not inclined to help her and stick a knife in him. So I did wrestle. There was a long period where I wasn't saying anything about it and people were saying, what's she going to do?

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And I was under a lot of pressure from Roger's team and Roger and his wife to come out and say, he's not this thing and he's incapable of being this thing, which is what everyone was saying. And I knew I did not have it in me to lie. The real question was whether I should just stay silent and keep it to myself. And I wrote about this in my book.

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I was on the porch swing at the place we go to at the Jersey Shore. And I was looking at a picture of my daughter who had fallen off the jungle gym. And she had had something like 11 stitches in her head. But she got back up to the same jungle gym she had fallen off of. And I saw that picture and I said, I have got to call Lachlan Murdoch. I have to call him.

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It still makes me emotional because it was something that I think changed lives in a lot of ways. I believe that, but including my own in a way that was not positive, mostly. In some ways positive, but mostly negative. I'm curious to know, in hindsight, what do you think changed? Well, I think it blew up almost every friendship I had at Fox, which those friendships were important to me.

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You know, I loved most of those people and didn't quite realize how strong the backlash would be. I mean, virtually everyone, maybe a couple of close friends stood by me and were 100% with me. But you know, it just was a before and after moment there. Anyway, the whole thing on the heels of that year of the Trump stuff, it was just a lot. And I'm not generally a stressed out person.

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I probably couldn't be in news if I were anxiety ridden, but I was stressed out. And I left for NBC as an escape. You know, I just thought it was going to be a kinder, gentler, my God, I sound like an idiot. I It's like I did no homework about anything. Place to be. It wasn't. It ended disastrously. It was an even more stressful year.

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So, look, all those relationships at Fox have since repaired, and I'm in a good place with my old Fox colleagues. But it took a while.

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You've called women you don't like fat pigs, dogs, slobs, and disgusting animals. Your Twitter account- Only Rosie O'Donnell. I know it wasn't.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, and happy Monday. President Trump's whirlwind first couple of weeks has continued over the weekend. It's nonstop. He does not rest. There's no more, you know, weird sand shuffling over long weekends at Rehoboth Beach from the busy week—

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And when you know, they know you're not bluffing, that Trump will follow through on any veiled or explicit threats. And you have a boss who's alive, not afraid, and understands the power of this great country. And you're exactly like him. So it's like they're dealing with a totally different team than under Biden and, you know, with Blinken and Jake Sullivan. So that had to play a role.

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Oh, I like that. This must have been thrilling for you personally, Rick, on a number of levels. Like when you got this title, did you know it was going to include things like this?

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I like the notion of, I actually just tweeted this out the other day about Scott Pressler, but it's going to work for you too. I tweeted out something like, the scariest thing a politician in America used to hear was Ronan Farrow's on the phone, right? Like doing some Me Too expose of you. But today it's Scott Pressler's here.

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This Republican activist who got tons of, a million and a half Pennsylvanians registered red this time around and is threatening the governor of New Jersey, he's going to do it there. But you're kind of in that role where it's like, oh, God, Rick Grinnell is here.

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Now you've got absolute idiots trying to espouse their political views to us as though we care about anything about them other than the way they sing songs. We'll get to that. But we begin today with an exclusive interview with our friend Rick Grinnell. Now, back in December, President Trump appointed Grinnell as his envoy for special missions, a title that sounded important but vague.

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You know, you're going to be going to these hot spots, it sounds like, with the president's backing, letting them know you may not love this visit, but you're really not going to like the visit you get from my boss's team if it doesn't work out between us. This is a brilliant pairing. I think this is a great way of using you. Let me steal a couple minutes of your time.

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And by the way, we're not officially releasing the name of the hostages, right? Is that true? I mean, I saw a couple of the names in The Washington Post and The Wall Street Journal, just so our audience is not wondering why we're not doing bios.

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Okay. Yeah. It's, there's a couple of them are out there if you guys so desire, but we'll update you as the week goes on. Okay. So let me ask you this while I have you, uh, yesterday, I think it was yesterday or Saturday. It's all blending together. Now, Donald Trump posted the following this morning.

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I ordered precision military airstrikes on the senior ISIS attack planner and other terrorists he recruited and led in Somalia. These killers who we found hiding in caves threatened the US and our allies. The strikes destroyed the caves they live in and killed many terrorists without in any way harming civilians.

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Our military has targeted this ISIS attack planner for years, but Biden and his cronies wouldn't act quickly enough to get the job done. I did. The message to ISIS and all others who would attack Americans is that, in all caps, we will find you and we will kill you. And then Trump himself posted today video of the attack, which we can see here, stand by.

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I mean, obviously he's declassifying it by posting it himself in just what looks like a pretty significant show of American firepower from the air.

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And now, Rick, there's a lot of speculation about whether this is not only a message to any foreign terrorist, but perhaps one to the drug cartels along the Mexican border, who we've deemed foreign terrorists, that if they don't get in line, they could be in a lot of trouble, just like these Somalia ISIS workers, that their threat over the weekend to drone attack ICE agents is not being well-received.

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and they're messing with the wrong first world nation. Your thoughts on all of it.

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We weren't sure what it was, but Rick, of course, has a lot of international experience, former ambassador to Germany, former acting DNI, was at the UN for a long time. I mean, he knows what he's doing overseas. And now we're starting to get a better feel for how Trump intends to use him, and it's, boy, for the good of the United States.

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I love the warning of it. And it was amazing because I think a lot of us have kind of forgotten about ISIS. We thought Trump took care of that. And like Biden have been took our eyes off that ball, though Biden's the commander in chief or was and had an obligation to keep paying attention. Marco Rubio went down on his first foreign international trip to Panama.

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I sat with him last week just as he was about to depart. And he made clear that one of the main reasons, if not the main reason of going down there, was the growing influence of China.

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in the canal, that when we gave the canal to Panama, it was explicit that they would not allow it to fall under the control of another foreign entity, and that it certainly shouldn't be China, and that what they're doing now is they're building all these sort of corporate concerns along the Panama Canal that are owned by the Chinese that could be flipped like that into military strongholds.

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So we're just not going to have it. And Trump has said, we want this canal back. So Marco Rui goes down there. Here's what he told me on Thursday, Satu.

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So what we learned today is that the Financial Post is reporting Panama promised free passage to U.S. warships, Rubio saying he was going to demand that. He got it. And on top of that, the Panamanian president says he will not renew the Belt and Road deal with China as we are demanding less influence. that he said their sovereignty is not up for debate.

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He doesn't want to give us the canal, but he said that they would not renew a 2017 memorandum of understanding to join China's overseas development initiative known as the Belt and Road, suggested that the deal with China could in fact even end early. All good, all great. That's a W for us. But then the big boss weighed in, just in case people were clear, like that's great.

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But, and here's what Trump said yesterday, it's not three.

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We've already seen his diplomacy in action as he returned this past Friday night from Venezuela and not alone. He brought with him six Americans who were being effectively held hostage by the Maduro regime. Here to tell that story is Rick Grinnell. When it comes to grocery shopping and meal planning, it's often stressful and time-consuming.

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OK, frame it up for us, Rick. What's happening here?

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The last question, and by the way, speaking of Kristi Noem and Venezuela, the Trump administration also ended temporary immigration program, the temporary immigration program for hundreds of thousands of Venezuelans. She revoked one of two temporary protected status designations for Venezuela. It's by far the biggest of its kind, protecting more than... 600,000 migrants from deportation.

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So no more. We're saying you do not have temporary protected status. You got to go home. Go back to Venezuela. And thanks to Rick Bunnell, President Maduro is going to move in. Yeah. He's going to fly you back home. You're going to go see mom. Good luck with that. Last quick question before we go.

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Elon's all over Twitter saying that he has shut down USAID, this organization that they say they're running like humanitarian aid and other benevolent programs for foreign aid groups that we support. And Elon's saying he held out Twitter spaces last night at midnight saying they're That thing is so corrupt. The money is being totally mismanaged.

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It's not that there was a worm in the apple, he said. It's that all we found were worms. And the workers who work for USAID got a notification last night, don't come to work. Stay at home. You're on paid leave. And there's a question about whether this thing is even opening its doors. Why should Americans care? And what do you make of the freak out on the left about this?

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the problem is it's become a left-wing organization that just funds its favorite causes. There is a report out today about how Bill Kristol set up some group that's through some backend, gets money from USAID, unconfirmed. He does not appear to have denied it yet, but I'll check. So we're funding these left-wing groups through the Biden administration under the auspices of like

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We're going to help the sick and the poor in Africa and winds up in the back pocket of somebody like Bill Kristol. It's a no. At a minimum, it deserves to be to get a hard second look and to stop the funding until we can figure out, as President Trump infamously once said, what the hell is going on? Rick Grinnell, thank you so much and congrats. What a huge victory for us all.

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Wow. It's amazing. I'll look at like, it truly is so much winning, right? Are you tired of all the winning? I'm not tired of all the winning. I mean, think about it. Like these six to 12 guys are languishing in Venezuela. And the reason it was a win for Maduro to sit with Rick is because we haven't recognized that government, you know, there, there, he lost the election, but he wouldn't leave.

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And so our, we weren't recognizing him, but you know, He's not leaving and we have Americans stranded there. And what Rick is saying is that the mere fact that he was willing to be seen on camera with him is a win for the guy. And does that really cost us so much to get back our people?

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And by the way, to have him willingly take back his people who are far worse than our people we're talking about here, six to 12 Americans who appear to have been falsely accused versus hundreds of thousands of Venezuelans who are in part gang members committing crimes in America. There's a lot happening. We're going to get into more of this when Stu Berger joins us right after the break.

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news coverage over the weekend because he threatened, he said, as of Saturday, he said, I am jacking up tariffs on Canadian goods by 25%, Mexico by 25% and China by 10% because he'd already raised the tariffs on China, which Joe Biden then kept in place after criticizing Trump for the tariffs, but kept them because they were working. Um, And Trump said they're going into effect on Tuesday.

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It's happening. I want a better fair trade situation with Canada and some crackdown on the border. And I want a serious crackdown on the Mexican border from the Mexicans. Well, you know, cue the Harry Enten segment over on CNN about how many people do not want this. They're very against the tariffs. Okay. I think the average person doesn't think about tariffs at all.

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Maybe doesn't even fully appreciate what it is. They've just been told by every media outlet, left and right, that this is a colossally bad idea. Go find the media outlet that's going to explain why this is a clever idea, such that both parties wound up agreeing to it, Trump, then Biden, when it comes to China. That's not out there. Anyway, Mexico is already caved.

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And we get the news this morning that Mexico has agreed to put 10,000 troops along the southern border in addition to other measures, which I will pull up and go over in one second. But what do you make just of the overall posturing of this thing and where we are after 48 hours?

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Mm-hmm. The Mexican president said, this is via the New York Times, that the 10,000 Mexican National Guard troops being sent to the border would be pulled from other parts of the country and would be in addition to security forces already there. She said it was important for humanitarian reasons for Mexico to help control the flow of fentanyl into the United States.

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And she said there was a plan to deploy the troops immediately. I mean, who in their right mind thinks that's a bad idea, right? There's, this isn't the whole ball game, but that's a concession that was gotten within hours of Saturday's announcement by Trump that he meant business on these tariffs and he actually was going to do it. Um, then you've get, you get Trudeau up in Canada, um,

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who starts off by saying, oh, we used to be really good friends and we've helped you out a lot. It's like the first stages of grief, you know, denial. What do you mean? We used to, we go back a long way. And then he says, um, I want to tell you that less than 1% of fentanyl, less than 1% of illegal crossings into the United States come from Canada. We're not your number one problem.

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But hearing concerns from both Canadians and Americans, we launched a $1.3 billion border plan. Great. Thank you. It's a start. It's not going to end the deal, but it's a start. Political reported on Friday that a source said Trump's commerce secretary nominee has asked for proof of these efforts regarding Canada's $1.3 billion border plan.

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Apparently they don't believe that Trudeau's actually doing this or actually about to do this. But they announced it, and right now they too are facing a 25% tariff on some $30 billion of U.S. goods starting Tuesday. It will ramp up to $125 billion worth of goods in 21 days if they don't do what Trump wants, which I think goes beyond just this $1.3 billion order plan.

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But it's very interesting because I don't see a ton of positive coverage for President Trump across these same outlets today on how it's working.

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And so we'll make you care. If you, if you don't care, we'll get your money involved in this game and then you will care. You'll, you'll care a lot because right now most products from Canada and Mexico into the United States face no tariffs. So this is a big change. If we slap on this 25% tariff to most of their goods, we did make an exclusion on, I think it was Canadian energy. It's down.

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It's a 10% tariff. Um, Crude oil from Canada would suffer only a 10% charge, which the New York Times points out appears to be a tacit acknowledgement by Trump. The tariffs might translate into higher gas taxes or gas prices. He understands what he's doing. Trump himself tweeted out, will there be some pain? Yes, maybe, and maybe not.

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But we will make America great again and it will all be worth the price that must be paid. We're a country that is now being run with common sense and the results will be spectacular. He said the tariff lobby headed by the globalist and always wrong Wall Street Journal is working hard to justify countries like Canada, Mexico, China and too many others to name

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too many others to name, uh, to continue the decades long ripoff of America. We're not going to be the stupid country any longer. And he's all, it seems to be, he's asking Americans to understand maybe there will be some short-term pain in some areas, but trust me, it's for long-term gain. Um, and here's just the latest year. Okay. Hold on. Um, yeah. Okay. So I mentioned the news media.

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I mean, I saw a lot of reactions on Twitter from well-meaning fans of the president even saying, is it bad that I didn't know we had six Americans being held in Venezuela? So just give us a little background on who these people are.

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Here's, here's how they're spinning the breakthrough. New York Times made a headline right now. Mexico reaches deal with U.S. to delay Trump tariffs. There's no mention whatsoever of the fact that they're about to send 10,000 troops to the border to help with the illegal problem, the fentanyl problem too. Washington Post does mention it. They say U.S.

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tariffs on Mexico delayed as country agrees to rush 10,000 troops to the border. NBC News, not surprisingly. Makes no mention of it. Trump and Mexico's president say tariffs will be delayed for one month after talks. Not important enough to put the 10,000 troops in the headline. And that's why I mentioned the Harry Enten thing. I know this guy is just taking polling numbers and putting them on TV.

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But there's a reason that the vast majority of Americans, I think, are against Trump on the tariffs. Because... Truly, the left doesn't want tariffs. The Wall Street Journal and the Rupert Murdoch types don't want tariffs.

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It's really just sort of the core MAGA group that is in favor of them and some group of the left that has been more against free trade and more in favor of, quote, fair trade for some time. But here's what I reference with the Harry Hinton thing. Watch.

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Oh, well, that's promising. But by the way, so where you wait over the next 24 hours and see if there's a one point three billion dollar guarantee from Canada to crack down on border security and 10,000 troops flooding to the border right now in Mexico to crack down on border security in response to Trump's tariff plan.

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See if that winds its way into your local paper and the headlines, America, because they won't.

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I have no empathy for Mexico. None, none. They should double the number, 10,000. They're the source of so many of our problems. They dumped the worst criminals who come up through their country into the United States. They allow their drug cartels to run wild at the southern border and are largely responsible for the coyotes and the trafficking of the people into the United States.

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Zero sympathy for Mexico. By the way, targeted tariffs are at times terrific, is great alliteration by you, Sturberger. Here's a thread that was on Twitter by Melissa Chen, who is a commentator. I don't exactly know what she writes at The Spectator and elsewhere, but she's a smart commentator. And I've seen her on Rogan and elsewhere, and she's always worth listening to.

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And she she did a little thread on the what we're doing with respect to trade and China. All right. This is just one example. Again, the Chinese tariffs are only going up 10 percent because we already jacked them. But let me give you a flavor for what Trump is doing here. He's paying attention.

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Timu, Shine, and all these tacky fast fashion companies that sell mostly crap have long relied on an unfair and unwarranted trade advantage versus the United States. They have long been beneficiaries of what's called the de minimis loophole. This loophole allows goods to be shipped directly from overseas to American consumers so long as the value of each pack

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is under $800 American without any customs declaration. It's cheap, direct, untaxed, and unregulated. It's a law that's existed since the 1930s, long before the internet. Last year, the U.S. received a billion packages from China.

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Through this loophole, CPB cannot possibly inspect the items at scale, so things do slip through the cracks, unsafe items, knockoffs, products made with forced labor from China, and yes, chemicals that are used to make fentanyl. To put things in context, in 2022, Gap, the Gap, paid $700 million, while H&M paid $200 million in import taxes. Timu, this company, paid zero.

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Free trade, she writes, is not free. It's flooding our markets with cheap, crappy, potentially toxic goods, gutting our own retail markets, and allowing unsavory foreign competitors to exploit loopholes and gain unfair competitive advantages over retailers who have to play by the rule because of geography. Now we've closed it, and Trump shut down these de minimis entries from China. Effective

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Tuesday. He's never even going to get credit for these things, Stu. They're too small. People aren't paying attention. But he's clearly got a both guns blazing approach to what used to be lauded by the Republican Party as free trade. But free trade is not working for a lot of Americans.

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Never works out. Do not order your clothing from China. Double check. Make sure it's made in America. Stu stays with us. Don't go away. Great to see you, my friend. Selling a car privately can be a real headache. It actually really is. Endless negotiations and paperwork hassles, but there is a better, easier way to get your unused car off of your hands.

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So, Stu, the polls have made absolutely clear that a clear and hearty majority of Americans want to see all illegals in this country deported, not just the criminals, not just the really, really bad ones. All all between 55 and 62 to 63 percent, depending on which poll you look at. OK, so that's that's a majority of Americans. That's not that's not just Republicans.

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work week of the president that goes from 10 a.m. to 4 p.m. at best, four days a week, as we had with our last president. This president does not stop. All he does is work and try to improve the country. I mean, I don't think he sleeps. It's kind of crazy. I mean, Don't you need to sit down? I need to sit down. I need to have my coffee. I can't even talk to Doug in the morning.

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Notwithstanding that, Governor Phil Murphy of New Jersey, who's about to be Scott Pressler'd, and I am here for it, as the kids say, go, Scott, go. New Jersey ought to be red, and large portions of it are red. Just go to Atlantic City and take a look at the Trump signage. Decides to give an interview and offer up the following little tidbit. Listen here.

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Wow. So he doesn't explicitly say that she's illegal, but obviously she is if he's presuming the feds would come to get her. And the only thing that would stop them from being successful is Governor Murphy. That's extraordinary. He's harboring an illegal in his garage apartment and is bragging about it Stu, in again, a country whose clear majority wants all illegals gone.

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So should our friend Tom Homan and his friends swing by the New Jersey governor's home and see what's up above his garage?

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That's exactly right. Honestly, I'm a homeowner in New Jersey. Maybe I should just stop paying my state taxes on the home and that, you know, I just dare you, Phil Murphy. You think he'd let me get away with just flouting the law because Megyn Kelly doesn't like it? She doesn't agree with it. This is outrageous.

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They absolutely should go and collect that woman and they should make an example of her. I don't mean hurt her. I just mean get her out of the country among the first deportations. And that will teach a lesson to Phil Murphy and anybody else who's got great ideas about waving in our face their flouting of the law, how that's going to go for them. I mean, thanks.

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Thanks for letting us know on the bright side. We now have a great roadmap for exactly how to get this won. But he had to be ashamed of himself. Um, his party is a hot mess, right? Even though the vast majority of Americans are, are over illegal immigration and this open border and they're very over girls in, uh, having to deal with boys in their sports.

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By the way, we have an exclusive at the end of the show with Senator Tommy Tuberville, who's going to be talking about who in the Senate is blocking the Senate from taking a vote on the protection of girls and women in sports. bill because the House passed this thing and the Republicans control the Senate and it's being blocked and he's prepared to name names.

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That's in our segment right after Stu. But so the vast majority of the American public is on our side on these issues. But the Democrats come together this past weekend to elect their new leaders. They have no leaders. Kamala's gone. Biden's gone in more ways than one. They have no leaders. And this is the clip that's going everywhere, which shows you what they care about. This is how

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Well, let me start with this. There's two. Jonathan Capehart, this far left guy who has a show on MSNBC, he starts by asking this question. And for the listening audience, every single person on the panel raises their hand. These are all the candidates for the head of DNC. It's SOT16.

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You all passed. Jonathan Capehart will decide why Kamala Harris lost. And then they elect a white guy. They elected a white guy, Stu. It's been like 12 years or something before they ever. But the reason this guy, Ken Martin, got elected as a white guy, I would submit, is because of repeated statements like this one he offered in 2019. Sot 14 here.

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OK, but he got elected as chair, David Hogg, the far left president. kid who was part of the Stoneman, um, school shooting. He was there. It was a student down in Florida when that happened at Parkland. Um, who is just, I mean, with all due respect to that terrible experience, he is truly one of the most annoying leftists on Twitter.

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He is truly hateful, very nasty, does not understand there's a second amendment in this country and that he doesn't get to rewrite it with his eraser. Um, he wins vice chair. So now you got two white guys, two,

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And the DNC chair, Jamie Harrison, I guess outgoing, tries to explain that this has thrown things into chaos because they have quotas, they have bare minimums for non-binaries as part of DNC leadership, which I guess neither of these guys is. Listen to Sod 18.

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very hard if you have a quota for neither males nor females and for the listening audience on the screen the entire time he was reading that is this little like pronoun primer that reads there's zim there her z she his zay they them zim hers zay him he i refuse fuck off dnc those are They're not real words nor real pronouns. There's no such thing as a Z or a Zay or a Zim.

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And that's why they're having such difficulty finding the right balance because they require it at the leadership level, Stu.

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No. And the reports coming out of there were just as delicious. So the headline today is in the or actually yesterday, the Wall Street Journal. Democrats have a new leader but have not come to grips with failure. They quote Adam Frisch, a Colorado Democrat who lost his house race in November to now Republican Representative Jeff Hurd as saying as follows.

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20 big cities, Aspen and Martha's vineyards. That's what's left of the democratic party. And I'm not exactly sure those 20 big cities are getting the best version of the democratic party. Z Zim Zay. You don't, you don't think so, Adam? I think you might be right. Here's some more color from that whole debacle. Um, Okay. New York times headline coming out of that meeting was no coherent message.

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What was that clear mandate?

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Dems struggle to oppose Trump. They point out that, um, a Quinnipiac university poll conducted the week after Trump took office found that 57% of voters view the democratic party unfavorably. That is the highest level since 2008. They did more than 50 interviews with Democratic leaders. They broadly agree that they need to do more to address issues like grocery costs, inflation and immigration.

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But there is little consensus on how or even whether to prioritize the party's traditional concerns like abortion rights, LGBTQ equality and climate change. There's a quote in here from Representative Jasmine Crockett, Democrat of Texas, saying, This guy, meaning Trump, is psychotic. And there's so much, but everything that underlies it is white supremacy and hate.

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And last but not least, this little ditty from Connecticut Senator Chris Murphy, you have to portray a sense of alarm and urgency or people will continue to believe that the country will be okay. So they have no idea what the messaging should be. They know they're not dumb enough to believe that the identity politics helped them.

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They have got to see the polling showing it's crushing them, but it's too strong a strain. The party has this malignant tumor. that's in it, that loves DEI and equity and identity politics at every turn. And they can't excise it still.

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You don't think so? Against it. No, I mean, he might be, but I refuse. I'm going to work against him. He helped kill 15,000 New Yorkers with his inane orders to put... sick patients into nursing homes and did not let them test them for COVID. Then he tried to lie and cover that up when he got caught. It's insanity to put this guy back in power. Just ask our mutual pal Janice Dean.

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New Yorkers, your memory cannot be that short. Sorry, keep going.

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They're already a national joke. I mean, they're, you know, it's like the sad kid at, you know, the parties in high school who runs and tells the teacher every time he sees somebody misbehave, who really doesn't have a lot of friends, but he's not like the lovable nerd.

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He's like the turn state's evidence douchebag nerd who people really do want to punch, but they won't because they have boundaries. That's what the Democrat Party is now, like this feckless, weakling, tattletale, annoying loser kids who nobody wants to brand with. You know, it's like that. I keep thinking about that beautiful picture of all those young Republicans at the C.J.

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Pearson, you know, organized inaugural ball and New York magazine calling them the cruel table. It's like, no, that's the face of the up and coming generation. Young Trumpers who are gorgeous, promising, hopeful, optimistic, patriotic. That's what drives the left crazy. who are so focused on Zay, Zem, and we don't have enough non-binaries. Is there any woman here with a penis? Anyone at all?

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Is there any man here with ovaries? Please. Oh, we can't get to a quorum. And this is why, just to add more color to it, Politico reporting on X that Dems are in a bit of disarray over this whole thread by Dave Weigel, who works for Semaphore, who talked about some of the crazy answers these candidates gave on how they think they're doing.

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Like, we should take money from good billionaires, not bad ones. And anyway, the quote repeated by Politico was, we are so fucked, said one Democratic strategist. They even they see it still.

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After that interview with J.D. Vance and Margaret Brennan, I don't really care, Margaret. Margaret is the new Karen. Okay, Debbie Murphy, Canadian Debbie, tells me we cannot end this segment without me playing the following soundbite. This is from, I mentioned there were a bunch of candidates who were running. Other than the white guy who won.

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And I want to introduce you to Dr. Quintessa Hathaway of Arkansas, who told the audience she wanted to give them something that's been on her heart here over the last couple of days. And then this.

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Quintessa, sadly, you are no longer in the running toward becoming the next DNC chair. You received, oh, this checks notes, zero votes for that apparently not rousing rendition of You Fight On. This, we have Trump and they have Quintessa still. I'm feeling like we're in good shape. All right, I got to move on because I can't let you go without getting to the Grammys.

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Did you watch any of the Grammys at all?

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I watched no Grammys. I just watched some of the clips and the responses on X. And within about two minutes, I think the world knew that Kanye, now known as Ye, and his wife, question mark, Bianca Sensori, showed up there and she was naked. So we have blurred this because we do have kids who watch the show, but she dropped that fur coat and you see full vag... big fake boobs and her naked bottom.

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And she's, I guess, wearing a, quote, mesh dress, which is totally invisible. You cannot see that at all. It doesn't even appear. I mean, the best was she kept trying to pull it down Like the dress, like, sweetheart, we've seen your badge. There's no reason to pull it down. If you had any hopes of modesty, they ended when you chose that outfit.

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And Stu, I have to just say, a couple of thoughts on this. First of all, it's so crass. It's so classless. I mean, any of us, you, me, Canadian Debbie, Steve Krakauer, my EP, if any of us just took off all of our clothes and showed up at the Grammys wearing mesh, a mesh dress, we would get tons of attention. It's because you've crossed another new societal low.

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It's not because, ooh, we all want to see you naked. There's no question she has a beautiful body. She's a beautiful woman. We knew that from all the other nude pictures. But to show up at the red carpet like this at a festive event totally naked is just another blow to our already craven society. Something kids sometimes watch, right?

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If you're not smart, you don't let your kids watch the Grammys, but just saying what she wanted them to see was her naked body. That's what she wants people to know about her. I find it disgusting. I'm not like angry because I don't let my kids watch these things anymore, but I'll just put it to you this way.

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My kids, I was telling them about it in the car because I thought they might hear about it at school. And I, of course, my 15 year old Googled it and it wouldn't even pull up on his phone. Right. Because we've got like screeners on there because it's pornographic, but it's shoved in our face at every turn, especially by these two.

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Especially as you've been sleeping with Kanye, who slept with Kim. God only knows what you're getting. No, not suggesting anybody has a disease. Just saying, you know, you don't want that trail coming your way. They didn't actually make it into the venue. They, they, There were reports they were kicked out because they weren't invited.

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But then there was a report clarifying from, I think, Entertainment Weekly saying, no, no, no, they were invited. He'd been nominated for something. They just didn't go in. They came, they posed, they walked out. Because obviously they were just there for the photo op. Can I just remind you, this was Kanye on with Tucker shortly before they booted Tucker off of Fox News, trying to play all like...

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Oh, I'm a man of God now. I object to the objectification of women. I think it's... Well, let's start with... I don't know. SART 7. Yeah, SART 7.

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I've seen Skims promotions, many of them. I've never seen Kim Kardashian's full vag on display. Even she hasn't gone that far. I've actually never seen her full boobs in promotion of Skims. I've seen them many times elsewhere on the internet. Thanks to you, Kanye, who participated in that one shoot, I'm told, where she had the champagne coming out of that, whatever.

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He definitely tweeted it out and wrote all day long. And then he added this to Tucker for good measure. It's not eight.

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What a difference a divorce makes? Help me, Stu.

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This is an opinion about the way in which he has been behaving, which is totally fair. I, I'm like, I would like to state for the record that I have, I did never, I did not buy into this. And I did not, I did not put him on the air or try to milk that for ratings like Chris Cuomo did. Um, I just, you could see he wasn't, there's something off and I have no wish to exploit it.

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But I feel like this wife, I used to think she was exploited. I now think she's totally in on it. She's in on it. Like she just wants to be a star. I have zero use for these two. Okay. Ms. Alicia Keys accepts the Dr. Dre Global Impact Award and uses it. Ms. Alicia Keys of the, oh, I swear I wasn't coincidentally wearing the Palestinian colors like hours after 10-7. No, I wasn't. I swear.

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This is how she spent her acceptance speech.

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Okay. Destructive forces try to burn us down. I mean, obviously I believe that was yet another reference to Israel. By the way, it was the Hamas who did the burning of actual people and babies. Alicia, you might want to actually do a little research before you go out there and wag your tongue because you don't know what the F you're talking about. Anyway, your thoughts.

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You had Shakira who did, she pulled a Selena Gomez, like the immigrants. You had Lady Gaga make it all about trans people are not invisible and These people are very annoying and you really should pause before you think about giving them your money. All right. It's like, oh, then Beyonce, Beyonce, she's won 33 Grammys, including for best country album last night.

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Meanwhile, they, you know, somebody went through and did the list. Hold on a second. I have it here. It's actually outrageous. So did you know, listen to this too. Somebody tweeted this out. Mike Harlow. Frank Sinatra got 11 Grammys. The Beatles won seven. Judy Garland, two. The Rolling Stones, three. Beyonce, 33. Most overrated artist of all time. I totally agree with that.

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And by the way, you don't have to take my word for it or Mike Harlow's word for it. Listen to what John Rich tweeted. Folks are asking me how to music award shows work. He writes labels and publishers all have blocks of votes. They make deals with each other. You vote for mine. We'll vote for yours type thing. It has zero to do with who made the best music.

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Thus Beyonce with country album of the year. Nice, right? The same thing is true with the CMAs, the ACMs, billboard, et cetera, all work exactly the same. Last night, the Grammys outed themselves in a big way. It's ridiculous. Her husband, I'm sure, pays for all these aggressive marketing campaigns. And we're supposed to pretend that Queen Bey is unassailable in her country music attempts.

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Well, you know what? She isn't. We're not buying it. We know what happened and how she got this award and how she got her 33 Grammys when you've got two for the Judy Garland's of the world. Your thoughts.

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At least you know you have your outfit ready.

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I know it's ridiculous. We know what you're doing. It's obvious what the industry is doing. It's just not the same as it used to be. Like there was a time when true merit determined who won these awards. That time has come and gone and Americans know it. They know it, whether it's an Oscar campaign or a Grammy's campaign.

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And these stars are making fools out of themselves in trying to walk over into political commentary. No one believes they have any working knowledge of the issues. And by the way, I'm convinced on that Alicia Keys reference. We know what you're doing. We realize you thought what Hamas did was aces. You made that clear. You're disgusting. Stu Bergier is not disgusting. He's a champ.

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It's great to have you. Thank you for being here.

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All right, coming up next, U.S. Senator Tommy Tuberville. Coach is here. I mean, this is one of the most respected, celebrated, most winning coaches of all time. And he happens to be a U.S. senator who for years...

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has been pushing to protect girls in sports, and he's about to blow the whistle on his fellow Republicans for not getting this bill, which already been passed in the House, a vote on the Senate floor. Don't miss that. You might have heard about this new brand called XXXY Athletics. It's the only athletic brand standing up for women's sports.

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It was founded by former elite gymnast and longtime Levi's top executive, Jennifer Say. XXXY Athletics actually knows men cannot become women. Hello? And while we've had some wins as of late, we're not done. Trump's executive order only impacts sports governed by Title IX that take place within federally funded education institutions. That leaves competitions and sports governed by the U.S.

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Now we turn to a subject that was key to the 2024 presidential election and a key issue here on our show, the protection of women and girls in sports. A bill titled Protection of Women and Girls in Sports Act passed through the House on January 15th, 218 to 206.

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The legislation bans federal funds from going to institutions that allow biological males in sports and requires Title IX provisions to solely recognize biological sex. But now the bill is being stalled in the GOP-controlled Senate. Hello, what? And my next guest has more on the GOP leadership failing to bring the legislation for a vote.

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He's such a chatty Kathy. I'm like, honey, I need my coffee. President Trump's up and at him. Okay, so a lot of big things happening. We're going to go through it. News today about these terror threats against Mexico and Canada, where it appears Mexico's already folded. Fast action from Secretary Rubio down in Panama. You know, he kind of gave us a preview of what he was going to do down there.

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Senator Tommy Tuberville of Alabama has been on the front lines working to pass this legislation, and he's been working for years. I went back and looked at the number of times he's tried to bring this up when nobody wanted to hear from him, when it appeared to have no chance of passing. He brought it up. He brought it up again. He brought it up again.

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He has been like a dog with a bone on this, a true ally to women and girls everywhere. And there's a reason I think he's got a historic background. in the sports world. As a former head coach for several college football teams, Senator Tuberville, Coach Tuberville, welcome to the show.

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I'm your huge fan. Like the number of times you have tried to push this boulder up the hill really makes me respect you, even when you knew there was no way a Democrats-controlled Senate was going to give you a vote. But then- GOP wins control of the Senate. And what we've seen since you guys took over in the Senate and the House now is... The House passed it and it got massaged a bit.

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They passed it again. They said, yeah, OK, here we go back to you guys over in the Senate. And we've been waiting. I've been waiting to see a vote by the GOP controlled Senate on this thing is much better, notwithstanding Trump's executive orders. If it can become law, law that can't just be undone by an executive order four years from now. So why aren't we seeing a vote?

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So that's you with the six, one, two, three, four, five, six. They all appear to be approaching middle age or around middle age.

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Would John Thune not wanted to come to the floor? He certainly wouldn't want to protect Democrats. He must know Republicans who are not ready to vote for this thing.

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The guy that you have your arm around, he looks younger, with all due respect. The others look closer to your age and my age.

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Is there some belief that this can't pass and they only want wins right now? They only want to put legislation on the floor that can get through.

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Can you just tell me when you said that there are girls sports teams in the United States that are filled entirely with boys posing as girls? You know, I just heard a story. I'm not going to name the school because I haven't confirmed this, but it's a mom friend of mine. And I believe her because she had a kid at this school in Westchester, a private school.

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They hired a new sports director, athletic director. And then they turfed this guy because he didn't believe in allowing boys into girls sports. And the school made a conscious decision that not only did they want boys in the girls' sports, but they had a plan to stack the entire girls' ice hockey team with biological boys so that they could be totally dominant against other schools.

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So I do have some information in my own personal world that, that they're doing this now for competitive advantages, but you're, you probably hear from a lot more people than I do in your role. So is that true? Like what, what sports are they filling the whole roster with boys? Yeah.

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But do we think, Senator, that you'd get all 53 Republicans voting for this?

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No, you're 100% right. The New York Times just did this poll in January of 2025, as in a few days ago, 79% of respondents said biological males who identify as female should not be allowed to compete in women's and girls' sports. 67% of Democrats said that, 94% of Republicans, 64% of independents. These are huge majorities, even within the Democrat party.

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We think we have the Republican votes, maybe, maybe not Murkowski. I've heard a little wiggling from Susan Collins, but I don't, I don't know. Even if you counted those two out, um, I, I feel like we have the votes needed to pass it. We just don't think we have the votes for cloture. Is that true?

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And you had like a preview of what the Democrat argument is on this from AOC in the House who actually explained or claimed that this is going to lead to inspections of little girls going into the locker room to make sure they're female. I mean, just the worst fear-mongering. Here is her soundbite in SOP 30.

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What's your response to her, Senator?

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It's total fear-mongering. So what we need is for Leader Thune to call for a vote on the Senate floor so that we have names. We have actual names of the Democrats who are standing in the way of what 67% of their base, of their voters, want. I don't see how that's a downside for Republicans at all. Even if we don't kick cloture, let's see them vote. Let's see those senators say, I am not for this.

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And we can campaign accordingly thereafter. While I have you, can I ask you about... the president's nominees, because I saw you, uh, I went to the Hegseth confirmation hearing. I saw you did a very nice job.

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RFKJ, Tulsi Gabbard, Kash Patel, um, news out today is of, you know, Hegseth's been confirmed, but of those I named maybe Tulsi's on the least steady ground in terms of getting confirmed in the Senate. Um, do you agree with that? And do you think she'll get through?

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Amen to that. Well, fingers crossed on all three of them. Last question. So does this mean, since you used to coach Patrick Mahomes, that you're rooting for the Chiefs at the big game this Sunday?

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Oh, very nice. Okay. I'm, I'm going to confess. I, I am going to the Superbowl. Uh, I've never been to one before, but Doug and I are going, and I am going to be rooting for the Eagles because even though I don't really love the Eagles coach, I gotta be honest. Ever since the Michael Vick thing, I have hold it.

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I've held it against them and I'm a Giants fan, but I am going, the Giants aren't in it. I am going to root for the Eagles out of marital support and love. Um, so we'll see, maybe I'll bet you a dollar. I'll bet you a dollar that the Eagles will win. You take that bet.

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Very cool. Great to see you, sir. Thank you so much for coming on.

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Thanks for all the great work you've been doing on this. Really appreciate it. It's a very simple, very simple act.

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It says sex shall be recognized based solely on a person's reproductive biology and genetics at birth, and that it will be a violation for someone receiving federal funds who runs a sports program to allow someone whose sex is male to participate in an athletic program or activity designed for girls. That's it. It's really not that complicated. Get behind it or get voted out of office, Democrats.

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You remember that poll we saw? 3,000 swing state voters. The number one issue they voted on in the 2024 presidential election was the gender thing. And the sports thing is a huge part of that. It just makes sense to people that boys shouldn't be playing against girls. Get on board or get left behind, especially these senators from those six swing states. Make them vote.

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Make them say they won't allow a vote on this very simple bill. Leader Thune, it's the least you can do to reward people like Senator Tuberville, who's worked so hard on this legislation that has majority support of the nation, never mind the House and the Senate. Thanks to all of you. for listening.

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We are going to be back tomorrow with a very interesting show with our legal eagles, Mike and Dave. I mean, there's so much stuff happening in Trump world. Is any of it going to pass muster in the legal world? We've already seen some challenges filed and much, much more. So don't miss that show and we will see you soon. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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Oh, no. So are we going to go back for them by your total that you said 12 that we should have six still there?

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He's worried about the Chinese influence. Well, he already scored a big W down there. And I think it's going to be the first of many because President Trump wants the whole kit and caboodle. He doesn't want just small wins. He wants the big victory. And we'll talk about what that means. Plus, we have got to, in just a bit, talk about last night's Grammys. Of course, you didn't watch them.

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No man left behind. I know you guys made a phone call to President Trump from the plane. And we have a little bit of that. Take a listen here.

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Neither did I. Nobody watched them. We only see the clips online. But it does give you a little window into how how insane these so-called cultural leaders of the music industry are. They're just, I mean, it used to be kind of cool to be a musician, right? To like, Somebody who could fill a stadium in Italy, in France, in Denver with people jumping up and down and loving them.

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Unbelievable. Rick, I, I hate to say, to use this word, you guys almost made it look easy. So what, why, why wasn't the last administration doing this? I mean, obviously there was a deal to be had and I don't, did Venezuela get anything other than the threat of Trump's wrath? Like how did we get them?

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We had one woman who saw her electric bill cut in half from $180 to $98. That's what we delivered. And based on that program, a coalition of organizations famous organizations came together and said to the EPA, if we can do this here, we can do this for millions more Americans. Let us invest the money of America in lowering the cost for Americans. And the EPA said, okay, great, go for it.

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Federal prosecutors writing in a court filing this week that alleged would-be Trump assassin Ryan Wesley Ruth attempted to purchase a rocket launcher from Ukraine in the weeks leading up to the planned attack.

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The 58-year-old suspect, who was caught lying in wait for Trump at one of his Florida golf courses, previously wrote to a Ukrainian contact, quote, send me an RPG, rocket-propelled grenade, or stinger, and I will see what we can do. Trump is not good for Ukraine.

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Mr. Ruth inquiring about purchase options and shipping, writing, quote, The filing alleges Mr. Ruth spent considerable time researching then-candidate Trump's movements, the Trump golf course, and possible escape routes. The suspect also sent a picture to the Ukrainian contact, whose identity and position remain unknown. of Trump Force One, writing, Trump's plane he gets on and off daily.

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Prosecutors say Mr. Ruth illegally purchased an SKS rifle setting up a sniper hideout near Trump International Golf Club in West Palm Beach in the early morning hours of September 15th. Mr. Trump set to play a round later that day. In the early afternoon, Secret Service agents spotting the barrel of a rifle poking out of the bushes along the course. Agents opening fire

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Wednesday, April 9th, 2025, and this is your AM Update. New details on the alleged would-be Trump assassins' plans, including plans to purchase a rocket launcher from Ukraine.

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the suspect escaping through the trees. Approximately 40 minutes later, authorities stopping Mr. Ruth on the interstate. Police were covering handwritten notes with dates of venues where Mr. Trump had appeared or was scheduled to appear, two cell phones, and a handwritten letter titled, Dear World. stating, quote, this was an assassination attempt on Donald Trump, but I am so sorry I failed you.

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Investigators also collecting a trove of digital evidence from Mr. Ruth's Hawaii home, 18 phones, three computers, three tablets, 3,000 photos, financial records, social media records, too. President Trump last week suggesting he may release the files on Mr. Ruth.

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President Trump announcing a new slate of executive orders to boost the coal industry. The Supreme Court sides with the Trump administration for the third time in a week.

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Prosecutors say Mr. Ruth was also in contact with a man in Mexico attempting to coordinate his post-assassination escape. Charges against Mr. Ruth include the attempted assassination of a presidential candidate, possessing a firearm in furtherance of a crime of violence, assaulting a federal officer, felon in possession of a firearm and ammunition.

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and possession of a firearm with an obliterated serial number. Mr. Ruth pleading not guilty to all charges. Attorneys for Mr. Ruth attempting to exclude an eyewitness account from his upcoming trial. The witness only identified as TCM, saying on the day of the planned attack, he saw a man jump out of the bushes and flee into a black Nissan car.

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Defense attorneys writing in a Monday filing, the identification procedures used to implicate Mr. Ruth in this case were impermissibly suggestive. Mr. Ruth's trial is set to begin this December. He faces life in prison if convicted. President Trump on Tuesday signing executive orders aimed at boosting coal industry production.

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Coal miners wearing hard hats and reflective gear flanking President Trump in the White House for the announcement.

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The executive orders instruct the Interior Department to resume coal leasing on millions of acres of public lands, lift burdensome Biden-era policies, promote grid reliability and direct the DOJ to pursue cases against left-wing states with policies against coal. Since January, various agencies and departments making efforts to unlock coal mining across the U.S.

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The EPA reducing restrictions on plant emissions, Interior approving the expansion of a Montana coal mine, and President Trump citing the rise of AI, creating an urgent need for more energy production. A 2024 study by the Energy Department concluding the U.S. needs to double the size of the grid in the next couple of decades.

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President Trump aiming to meet the need in part by spurring more coal production.

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And Defense Secretary Hegseth putting China on notice with a warning about who controls the Panama Canal. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update. So many people these days are focusing on getting healthy. And speaking of health, let me tell you about Jacob and Kristen, the founders of We Heart Nutrition.

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Coal-powered energy became a political football over the last decade. In January 2016, President Obama issuing a moratorium on federal coal leases on public lands. Hillary Clinton made clear she wanted to kill the coal industry. President Trump reversing the Obama order in 2017 only to see it reimposed by the Biden administration.

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President Trump announcing the administration is working to make the latest orders permanent.

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These latest orders, part of a broader push to dramatically refocus the federal government via executive authority. CNN analyst Harry Enten breaking it down.

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On Tuesday, the court blocking a lower court order demanding that the Trump administration rehire thousands of provisional federal employees let go in mass layoffs. The thinking had been they're provisional and would be easier to fire.

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On March 13th, Clinton appointed District Court Judge William Alsup in San Francisco, ordering the administration to reinstate the provisional employees, approximately 16,000 of them across six agencies, Agriculture, Defense, Energy, Interior, Treasury, and the VA.

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In a 7-2 decision, the court ruling the organizations bringing the case lack standing as individual workers who had been fired were not involved in the suit at all. The unsigned order leaving the door open for individual employees to commence their own challenges under the Administrative Procedure Act.

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The justices yet to weigh in on a similar injunction from an Obama-appointed judge out of Maryland. Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth on Tuesday visiting Panama in an effort to curb Chinese influence on the highly strategic waterway.

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The visit on the heels of two major developments in the region. In February, Panama announcing an early departure from the Chinese Belt and Road Initiative, an infrastructure agreement designed to force developing nations into dependence on China. In March, a Hong Kong company operating two ports on either side of the canal announcing a sale to American company BlackRock.

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Secretary Hegseth laying out the vital importance of the canal to U.S. interests.

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President Trump making control of the canal a day one priority of his second term. Mr. Trump not ruling out reclaiming the canal with military force. Possible plans of a D.C. military parade in the works. The Hill reporting an unnamed Army official saying, quote, there are plans for a parade that will involve the Army. Politico reporting the White House denies a parade has been scheduled, but D.C.

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Mayor Muriel Bowser confirming discussions with the administration. The Army celebrating its 250th birthday on June 14th, the same day as President Trump's 79th birthday. The idea of a military parade in the capital, inspired by President Trump's 2017 visit to France on Bastille Day. Mr. Trump teasing French President Emmanuel Macron in a joint press conference months later.

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In 2018, plans for a military parade scrapped following complaints of high costs of safety measures, estimated to be around $90 million, though this time around, Doge saves about that much every couple of hours. So we'll see. That'll do it for your AM Update. I'm Megyn Kelly.

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Join me back here for The Megyn Kelly Show, live on SiriusXM Triumph Channel 111 at Noon East, on YouTube.com slash Megyn Kelly, and on all podcast platforms.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. It is unbelievable what is happening in California right now. An American jewel of a city is in ashes. The Palisades area of Los Angeles is burning. House after house after house of one of our most precious areas is on fire.

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All right, Moynihan, now I've added a cough drop to my approach to the show, which I never do. It's rude. Sorry for my listening.

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I've had such a nasty cold this week. I took six steroids yesterday and five steroids this morning. You know how they give you the packs and it dwindles? So I take like two in the morning, two in the afternoon. I took them all before yesterday's show and I took five. I got my roid rage going.

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I mean, he's inside his living room, and the flames are right on the other side of floor-to-ceiling windows and sliding glass doors. You gonna be okay? You gonna be okay, all right? There's your dog. You're gonna be okay.

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I'm here, and I'm doing the job. But this is what I wanted to say. LA Times, excuse me, New York Post reporting that LA Fire Department had its budget cut by a staggering $17.6 million this financial year. Drastic decrease in funding for the fire department was the second largest cut to come. out of this mayor's fiscal year budget. She had initially wanted to cut it even more to 23 million.

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I am just... reading now this is unbelievable this is today karen bass has sent out a tweet here she comes underdog to save the day that reads as follows as angelinos start their wednesday morning there will be notable impacts to air quality with winds pushing smoke across the la area please limit your exposure by remaining indoors with windows and doors closed and wearing a properly fitted mask

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Oh, my God. That's her messaging? That's underdog? And what she's going to do? Where's the tweet about the fire hydrants? About what the plan is to save the lives of your citizens? Stay inside and wear a mask? Matt Welsh, I don't... All over the world right now, we are seeing people push back on these leftist politicians and the messes they've created.

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Is this going to happen even in California after something as disastrous as this?

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Let me tell you something. We actually went through this in Connecticut. Um, I don't remember the month. It was like with over the past 12 months where we had bad fires from Canada that were blowing smoke. Um, and it was bad. Like it smelled, it must've been in the summer. I don't know. It was close enough to the summer that the kids were in the pool in any event. Um,

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The plastic is the least of their concerns at this moment. Okay, that gives you the flavor, but it is an incredibly dangerous thing to have been in that home at that moment. The, um, the person who shared the clip is it goes by Kevin Dalton. That's his name on, on X. He, uh, that clip has already been seen more than 2 million times by early Wednesday.

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And the instinct was actually to put on a mask because it was like, oh, my God, I can smell it. I can smell it strongly. And then we consulted with some doctors who were like, it does absolutely nothing. No. Oh, really? Once again, unless you have like a real hazmat mask, that mask will do nothing for you. The point is, if it's bad enough, you should get out. Get out.

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And they can't get out at this point, many of the residents, because of those streets the way they are. The car is backed up. The smoke and the fire everywhere. And it leaps quickly from place to place. Let's just go back, okay? Because number one, you raised a very good point about the insurance. And I want to tell the audience, I know it sounds like this is all rich people, but it's not.

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You just hear the word Malibu or Pacific Palisades. It's not. Trust me, my friend who's in the middle of this is far from rich. And her neighbors are far from rich. And, you know, they're just regular people who have regular jobs trying to make a living and who cannot get insurance because of the reasons that you just stated, that the insurance companies did want to raise the rates.

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And Gavin Newsom said no. you know, supposedly as this champion of the people, you know, I'm going to keep the rates low, but the insurance companies did what they are always going to do in that situation, which is they took their ball and went home like F off. We were not required to insure you. The same thing happened up in Montana. It's happened in state after state across the union.

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when it comes to things like flood insurance, fire insurance, and other massive disaster insurance situations that these insurers are afraid of. It costs a lot, so they want to jack up rates.

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It was also used by the daily mail as their lead this morning. Kevin said in an update, I am told the dog and both of his humans were able to safely evacuate the property. That's as much as we know there. Let's hope Kevin is correct. When you see the video, for the listening audience, you don't even know where these two folks who are talking inside and that dog are going to run.

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Let me just tell you something. My friend who just found out that her house is gone is a divorced single mom. She's got two young daughters and a dog. She just told me, I asked her, describe your neighbors. mainly elderly, retired flight attendant, a retired family practice doctor, a real estate agent, a retired social worker, retired college professor. These are normal Americans.

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They're not rich. They're not at the bottom. They're just normal. This is a middle-class neighborhood that is gone, gone. And I guarantee you not one of them had insurance and they're elderly too. So how exactly is it that the retired flight attendant is now going to rebuild her life and get her things back together? This is a nightmare that was foreseeable. And let me just tell you, because...

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What Trump, he hates Gavin Newsom, totally understandably. It's fine. I agree with him. I understand why he calls him that and I have no issue. But he and Gavin Newsom have been fighting over things like this for quite some time now about a disagreement on how to prevent against this. And there's a clip that's going viral on X right now from 2018 when Trump was president.

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The house seems to be engulfed. One side seems a little less engulfed than the other, but it makes you wonder how on earth this happened. But the winds take the fire so quickly from home to home, it can happen in an instant, which is why the cities issue these mandatory evacuation orders. The wildfires began so quickly that many, many people were caught off guard.

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I mean, it's a fair point. And it's a debate that's been had many, many times with mostly conservatives on the one side saying, get in there and do the advanced cleanup and the calling of the trees in the forest that needs to be done to keep people safe. And left wingers like Gavin Newsom pretending that they're just such tree huggers. They don't want to do it.

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But meanwhile, how many trees just burned? How many homes just burned? How many people just lost everything, not to mention potentially their lives, because we wanted to let that 50 feet worth of trees stand instead of culling the area?

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And when the roadways became impassable, people just abandoned their cars to flee on foot. Look at this tape here. You see a bulldozer bulldozing the vehicles that were just left in the road out of the way so that emergency vehicles and others can get through.

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Have you guys been around the Palisades? It's absolutely beautiful. The thing that I love about it, and I've spent a little time in Malibu, which is a lot fancier and on the ocean, but the thing I love about the Palisades is it's all these really cute, charming little homes.

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There are a couple of the grand estates and so on, but for the most part, my experience there is it's these really pretty homes. Some of them have the Mediterranean roofs. It's the stuff you read about when you think about L.A. from the 1950s and how people had these little haciendas. It's so much Americana there, just utter charm around every corner.

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And thinking of it just burned to the ground like some dystopian horror film seems impossible. Go ahead, Matt.

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I think about this because you were saying, you know, Moynihan, you're not rich. I was not raised rich, but now I'm pretty rich. And I think about like, God forbid this happened, you know, of course, life, the life of my family and my pets would be my number one priority. thought, but didn't just think about it, rich or poor, what would you grab if you had a moment?

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One woman who abandoned her car told News Nation that police came up to her and said, get out of your car, run for your life, and head toward the ocean. You can believe it. Going back to that first video we showed, and if you're just listening, go check us out on youtube.com later. You'll see it right at the top of the show.

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You know, it would not be your fancy clothes or your, you know, designer car. It would be like your wedding album or like the photos of your kids when they were little before we had the iCloud in some of our cases, and it's not re-gettable. For me, it'd be like pictures of my dad who died in 1985. I can't recreate them. Those losses would burn deep and it doesn't matter what's in your wallet.

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And there are so many people out there. It's all gone. It's all literally up in smoke, not in some remote country, but in one of the busiest, most urban, most lived in cities, one of the jewels, yes, of America, in the whole world. It seems almost impossible that they could have let this happen. I mean, I realize... Yes, Mother Nature, too.

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But there were too many hands involved in this that let this happen from the refusal to call appropriately to protect these folks in the first place to the focus on DEI at a fire department that had other needs. You know, you live in Norway where we went in June. You're probably good on the water supply. Yeah. You're probably, everything is surrounded by water.

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There's a fjord out everybody's window. I don't know. Yes, you're in Los Angeles. There's an ocean there, but they have not been adequately sourcing the water for some time now and they know it. So there's multiple problems out there that let this happen. Here's one thing that just came in as follows. Stand by.

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California's Wildfire and Forest Resilience Action Plan in 2022 emphasized that, quote, rare plants and species diversity must be protected when clearing forest floors. Now, why, why, Camille, why must the rare plants and species diversity be protected, right? The whole point in clearing a forest is to protect human life, right?

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You wonder, all I could think was just at least open the doors and let the dog run for his life because a dog would know what to do. His instincts would take him away from the fire and he could probably outrun some extent of it. Run toward the ocean seems like a good idea. Fox's Charles Payne tweeted out this photo and wrote, I'm descending into LAX right now and I can smell the fire.

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Can I follow up on that? Let me just jump in for one second. James Woods has been on the program multiple times. He's a friend of the show and of mine personally. He's been posting on X prolifically about this as the fire came right up to his home. Here he is speaking about it. This just aired on CNN.

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So I'm not clear. I think James may have lost his house. He may have lost his house. He just tweeted, we renovated a home after COVID and just finished last month. To all the lovely people offering care and love, I'll say this. There is no possession as priceless as friends and good neighbors during a tragedy. I can't believe the blessings we enjoy. And I am humbly grateful. Oh, God bless him.

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God bless him. There he was talking about his 94-year-old neighbor barely escaping being burned alive. Here is video that was posted publicly. This is my friend's neighborhood, the one who lost everything, the two young daughters. Look at this, you guys. For the listening audience, it is burned trees. It is home after home of just a shell. You can see just like a shell of a home.

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It reminds me of what you see after a tornado goes through. And the tornado, you know, that is something you cannot do anything about. You know, there are certain parts of the country where the tornadoes hit and people have been raised, look at this, for blocks and blocks and blocks. and blocks. I cannot believe my eyes. This was lost to fire. You can see how dense, densely populated the area was.

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The picket white fence in front of a dystopian nightmare again. Burned trees, nothing left of homes. This is just a person tooling around, seeing it firsthand, and it happens to be my friend's neighborhood where she lost everything. We have Mayor Karen Bass with the following tweet just out. She's giving the number for power outages. This woman's utterly useless.

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Many on this flight in panic or heartbroken, knowing their homes are already gone. And listening audience, what you see here is an aerial of Los Angeles up against the water. And the top third of the photo is in flames. the top third.

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My friend and others are sitting there with absolutely nothing, absolutely nothing, trying to find somebody to take them in so they can be under a roof. And they don't need a number for a power outage. That's not what they need right now. I don't know what else she's doing, but I have zero hope that this woman will run hurt on this, just like I don't think Gavin Newsom did either.

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He just canceled his trip. to Washington DC for the Jimmy Carter funeral to deal with the fires. Well, thank you for that. Thank you for your service, governor. I don't know. I, I don't, you know, on the political question, you guys, I don't know.

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They're so left-wing for the most part. But so are the Canadians. And Justin Trudeau was just forced to step down. And they are looking at this Pierre Polyev very seriously. And he's the favorite, even according to the New York Times, to win now. The Canadians. The Canadians are going to elect Akins, conservative. Watching what's happening in Germany. Watching the rebellion in the UK. Like...

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what we did here, electing a two-time impeached, convicted, whatever, you know, how the left says about Trump. People have had it. They've had it with these left-wing policies that are, yes, Deadly, deadly.

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If you've been to LA, and I know we all rip on California for all sorts of good reasons, but we actually love our brothers and sisters in California and absolutely don't want to see this kind of danger or carnage unleashed on them.

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Like, you know, this could be solved if you would just put the things out loud that you're actually saying in your head and you're dressing up with fancy letters. Yeah. You know, think about it. You know, Camille, I come in to interview with you as I want to be the fire chief and you're the mayor. And and you say to me, let's just go over some basics. Do you have a vagina?

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And what you're seeing right now is part of one of our jewels, yes, Los Angeles, which has got a long history and a beautiful one in many ways in this country, on fire and burning to the ground. It's the Palisades neighborhood. You got Venice, you got Santa Monica, you got Palisades. And the Palisades, I don't know whether they will still be there when this is done.

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Oh my God. Our hearts and prayers and thoughts go out to the people suffering right now, praying for lives to be saved at this point. We'll be right back. More with the guys from the fifth column who are here for the whole show. Some therapists say that debt can make people feel desperate and helpless. It can ruin your sleep, creep into your relationships. It can wreck your happiness.

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Only the chimney remains. That's it. This is... I mean, my poor friend. She's like, I don't know what they're going to do. You know? Like... I, I, she's just in the same position as all of her neighbors from that video that we played you where the person was just going down the street there. They're all homeless now, all of them.

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I mean, there's not enough taxpayer money in the state of California to, to take care of all this damage. And I don't know about the insurance situation. Maybe we can get Greenland to pay for it once they become the 51st state. I'll get to Greenland in a second. I'll get to Greenland. But talk about the perfect segue.

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In Pasadena, senior citizens were rushed out of a senior living facility. Imagine this, some still in their hospital beds. What were they going to do? What was the alternative? They had to get them out. As this fire rages, so does the anger among the residents.

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A couple of years ago, John Stossel, friend of all of ours and former Fox host, he's been doing great on YouTube. He has a very, very interesting show that he does there and he posts the best clips. He does these in-depth like eight to 11 minute pieces that get up and down on a story very clearly in the way only Stossel can. And he did one on California wildfires and the ridiculous...

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environmental concerns that help contribute to them. And guess what happened to his very well-researched and presented and produced video? It got censored by Facebook, which is one of the other big stories in the news today, as Mark Zuckerberg is now saying he's going to finally stop doing that.

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But before we get to the resolution and Mark Zuckerberg's come to Jesus moment, we cut... My team knows that I have basically a rule that we don't do soundbites over 60 seconds just because...

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it drones on for the audience but um this one's two minutes and there's a reason like watch this it's very compelling we condensed stossel's report that facebook found so objectionable it had to be censored what looking at facebook i was shocked to see this big notice on my page missing context it's posted on my video that calls california's fires government-fueled

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who are saying that while wildfires are not uncommon in California, the state's disgusting mismanagement going back for decades is indeed partly to blame here for these fires not being better contained. The city's mayor, Karen Bass, is in Ghana right now. She's on her way back now, but she's not even in the country. The LA Times reporting that

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And you're not allowed to do that. You can't talk to Michael Schellenberger and have your video live on Facebook. And if memory serves, it's been a couple of years since I saw the original piece. but they admitted that they made a mistake and then they still wouldn't back down on the censorship.

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He caught them in fake censorship based on nothing, mistakes of theirs, and then they still refused to let the video have the full circulation and not be censored. So It was an absurdity. It's things like that that, in part, got us into this mess in California. It's yet another thing that the left has said over the past 10-plus years we're not allowed to discuss.

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You can't listen to Michael Schellenberger, former Greenpeace activist, former Obama administration... a partner on the Solyndra green window deal, which he learned firsthand was a disaster, which is what turned him more into, I don't want to call him a man of the right, but just a man of reason saying these policies suck. Like, what are we doing?

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We're ruining the earth in the name of green energy and it's having the opposite effect. So he gets banned. Stossel gets banned. We can't have honest discussions about wildfires. And now my friend's home is burned to the ground. So, you know, great. Mark Zuckerberg. Cool. Mark Zuckerberg. Welcome to our free speech party. But you're a day late and a dollar short.

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It's so funny that you should say he's playing, but he's playing ball in the free speech pond the same way Steve Martin's son, Kevin Buckman, was playing ball in the movie Parenthood when Steve Martin made him, remember, play third base or whatever it was. And like, it was a disaster. Poor Kevin Buckman was humiliated, but he had to do it because his dad made him.

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And residents have been under a mandatory evacuation order, including, I mean, folks who are my dear friends. One of my best friends is out there. Her house is gone. Brian Friedman, who was on the show yesterday, evacuated. Like, they're all...

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that firefighters have been radioing their stations with reports that the hydrants were dry in the Pacific Palisades. Fire... Fighters couldn't get water. It makes it really tough to fight the fires, especially when the winds are so bad that you can't take the aircraft up to do it from overhead.

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The fire hydrants were dry, which was a risk they reportedly knew about, a problem the city reportedly knew about, but failed to fix. Real estate developer Rick Caruso, who ran against Karen Baz for mayor, he called himself a Dem, but it was pretty clear this guy was about as close as you could get to a Republican in California running for office, right?

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Yeah, I think there's plenty of reasons... You know, I'll never forget the day that Facebook announced they were going to start fact-checking presidential ads. This was years ago. This isn't this election cycle. And I remember standing there in my kitchen saying, this is a huge mistake. This will not end well. They are not in a position to do this.

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Let the candidates slug it out and call each other liars. Let community notes pop up. However... but Facebook cannot do this. And it was the beginning of the end for Facebook's political feed, their news feed, which they don't really do anymore. We've been on Facebook for years, and I never used it as a big tool to promote the show, so I wasn't as hurt by this as some others in this sphere.

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But they basically completely, what's the word, like depressed and in all circulation of news, uh, like about a year ago. And it's seriously hurt a lot of right wing podcasts, which had been using Facebook to promote their, their brand. And it was, that was like a culmination too, of just their fact checking attempts and how poorly they were going.

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And like, once you step a foot in this lane, it's just a freaking disaster. You can, in the United States of America, this shit doesn't work. But Camille, You wouldn't know that from the reactions to Zuckerberg's announcement. I'll just give you one, which is my favorite. Here's the headline. Okay. Okay. Fact checker condemns Facebook for cutting ties with first responders of the internet. What?

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You have to say you're a Dem to win for Los Angeles and mayor. So he called himself a Dem, but he was an independent, basically. He was an outsider, and the way he talked sounded much more red than it did blue. And he lost. Elon Musk had endorsed him, but that union vote came in late in the game. Before he knew it, Karen Bassett pulled out a victory.

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But it's so great because as I listen to you talk, all I can think is, we're winning today. we're winning. This free speech fight, you guys have been in it neck deep. We're winning. This is a sign of that. And the second thing I was thinking about was my friend because her house burned, her car burned.

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And think about the other thing that is generally in your car and in your house, all your birth certificates, your kid's birth certificates, your Car registration, you know, you're like all of that's like, just think of the number of hours, you know, it's going to take you to try to reproduce those items. How the hell, like, how do you even start to go find your car registration data again?

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Like, yeah, DMV, that may be burned too. I just, whatever, I'm back and forth on these two stories. But on the happier note, we're winning. Although Brian Stelter is very upset, which is another sign we are winning. The right side is winning. Brian Stelter, quote, Meta's framing in its PR blog post is more speech and fewer mistakes. An alternate title could be more lies and more confusion. Yeah.

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So Rick Caruso went on local TV and raged about this fire hydrant issue. Take a listen.

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That's probably not it. And then there's the New York Times headline that everybody mocked yesterday on X. Meta says fact checkers were the problem. Fact checkers rule that false. Ruled.

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It was not Joe Biden's, the best Joe Biden ever. Or it was cats and dogs. It's the cats and dogs.

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It is a lie itself. We'll find out what the people of Greenland think. Charles C.W. Cook writes it up as follows, and I love this. This is it. For more than a decade now, many people within both social media and legacy media, in quotes, have attempted to use their power to end debate on a host of important democratic issues. This has failed, and spectacularly so.

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Even if one regards Zuckerberg's shift as a purely cynical surrender performed by a malleable and amoral cipher, one ought to be pleased at the impetus that provoked it. Something is changing out there, and changing for the better. Right on. And I know, Matt, you just wrote an article on Charlie Hebdo.

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It's amazing that we're at the 10-year anniversary of that massacre, which was about free speech and whether, as that magazine did, you can depict... the so-called prophet Muhammad, or you will be murdered. And some segment of the population will say, yeah, right. You were offensive, right?

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OK, I think the L.A. Fire Department would be thrilled. But in any event, I was saying they would never do that. Never do that to Islam or Muslims or even potentially Jewish people. But the Catholics, Christians, total fair game. In any event, the free speech debate has been raging for the better part of 10 years. And that Charlie Hebdo moment was one of the most important parts.

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The LA Times reported that in November, right, we're beginning of January, in November, the lack of water from hydrants was also to blame for the difficult efforts combating the mountain fire in Ventura County. They have been aware that there's an issue with the water not being in the fire hydrants. And what did the L.A. mayor do to protect her citizens?

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But you can make the Pope intersex. The Pope, the male Pope can have lady reproductive parts and it wins awards at the Golden Globes. And elsewhere.

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But what color? What color? That's the real question. You mentioned Matt Taibbi. He's got a sub stack called Racket. He just posted this in response to Zuckerberg saying in his video yesterday, he cited press pressure as part of the reason for proposed changes. After Trump first got elected in 2016, the legacy media wrote nonstop about how misinformation was a threat to democracy.

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Meta tried to address such concerns without becoming the arbiters of truth. OK, that's not true. One would think legacy media, writes Taibbi, outlets covering Zuckerberg's video address, might mention this. In other words, that it was their pressure that led him to implement these bad changes years ago in the first place. No luck, writes Matt.

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Neither the Washington Post nor the New York Times mentioned the legacy media comments by Zuckerberg. Both papers' readers, in other words, were served a curated version of reality that snipped out uncomfortable details. And God, do they wish the whole world could be like that. Yeah, as usual. Well said by Matt. Very well said, but yeah.

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What do you think the people in Greenland are going to think about it? Are they free speech? I mean, like, I don't know if they're leftist or rightist. Trump seems to be saying they're pro-MAGA, but like... No, they're not. They're Denmark people. They're kind of owned by Denmark. I mean, Denmark does own... And they are as left as you can get. So I'm not sure, guys.

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Yeah, that's going to be a lot for us to take on. Okay, I am going to give you the floor. Forgive me, but just to set it up, Trump is indeed saying, he had a news conference the other day, that he would potentially like to buy Greenland. Greenland is owned by Denmark and it's like one of their territories and he's saying, well, we want it.

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And then he got asked, well, like it's got a bunch of natural resources that are amazing and now accessible thanks to some of the global warming. It's not just completely covered by the Arctic. So we're interested because we don't have as much natural resources As China does, they've got way more than we do. So we're eyeballing, you know, Greenland is like, well, that could be quite helpful.

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And Trump proposed this, and then he was asked to that presser, like, would you, oh, and he also wants to reclaim the Panama Canal, which, okay, it was, we gave it to Panama under Jimmy Carter. It's no longer ours, but he's saying, well, we're taking it back. This is bullshit. You're charging us too much to go through it, and we want it.

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He's also saying we're going to rename the Gulf of Mexico the Gulf of America. He's saber rattling about making Canada a state. I don't I don't think that one's real, but I think the other ones are real. So he got asked on the the Panama Canal and Greenland whether he would use military or economic might to make it happen. Would you rule that out right now, Mr. President?

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Well, do we want Greenland? I mean, I see the natural resource. They're NATO country. I'm not sure we can just go in there and get them.

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Well, we'll get back to you when she gets back from Ghana and someone has the chance to ask her. As if all of this is not enough, it turns out that in recent years, L.A. 's fire chief, has made not filling the fire hydrants top priority, but diversity. Diversity is at least among the top priorities for the department. Her name is Kristen Crowley. She's been fire chief since 2022.

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Like some of the rhetoric at the conference didn't sound exactly isolationist. You know, like as much as I loved his like, you know, you're going to F off Hamas. I better get those hostages back before, before the inauguration.

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As a little like, well, what or what? Because like most MAGA people do not know. want to get involved in World War III. So there was that. Then there was, yeah, I kind of do want Greenland. And if I have to potentially involve the military, I'm not going to rule it out. And same for Panama. And maybe Canada. We'll have to see. I'm joking. He wasn't quite that bad.

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But I do wonder, because he sent Don Jr. and Charlie Kirk and others on Trump Force One. Yeah, that'll work. to Greenland. And then Trump called in. Here's a little soundbite of that visit. Take a look. Take a listen.

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Trump tweeted out, make Greenland great again. And he called in when Don Jr. was at a restaurant and he spoke with the people. And Trump says, Greenland, I hear, is very MAGA. I don't know if Greenland is MAGA. Can we start with that? I don't want to be adopting another California or Oregon.

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These are our fellow Americans who have been forced out of their homes because these predictable Santa Ana winds came and the local officials apparently would not do what was necessary to be done to protect the residents from the foreseeable risk of fire. There are three massive wildfires burning right now, being flamed by Santa Ana winds topping 60 miles an hour.

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And in an interview shortly after she was elevated to this position, she talked about being super inspired to make the fire department more diverse.

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Was it the King of Denmark? Anyway, it was the Prime Minister. The King of Denmark suddenly added Greenland to their crest over there as a middle finger to Trump. Meanwhile, I was just in Denmark. I was there in June. And let me tell you, one of the big things they're proud about about their king is that he rides his little bicycle with his basket in the front to work. I'm like, I'm not...

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In fairness, we don't know what that means. Here's John Fetterman. John Fetterman and Camille could be a joint ticket running on the independent side. I don't know, but they're sounding an awful lot alike. Take a listen.

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Oh, but Moynihan's against Alaska. He wishes we didn't have that state either.

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It's the first rule they teach you when you take negotiations in law school. The first rule. You ask for way more than you want to settle for. You know, if you need to settle the case for a million bucks, you do not go in there and say, I want a million bucks or a million two. You go in there and say, I want $4 million. And then I'll make this case go away.

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Well, is that true for Trump? I'm not really meaning that. Hold on. Do we have the exact quote? I want to read you the exact Trump quote because he did not say invade. I think we should be careful.

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Yeah. Let's see. Yeah. The question was, Okay. Asked by a reporter if he could assure world leaders that his rhetoric about the Panama Canal and Greenland would not amount to, quote, military or economic coercion. So, okay, military coercion. Once he takes office, Trump responded with a simple, no. He said we need them for economic security. Quote, I'm not going to commit to that.

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No, it might be that you'll have to do something. Look, that Panama Canal is vital to our country. It's being operated by China. China! And we gave the Panama Canal to Panama. We didn't give it to China, and they've abused it. They've abused that gift. Giving the Panama Canal to Panama was a very big mistake. So he focused mostly on Panama, but he said he would not reassure...

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that he is not prepared to use military or economic coercion with respect to Greenland. That's not a great quote, but we don't know exactly.

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Who gives a shit if the fire chief is gay? I'm sorry, but who gives a flying fig about who she likes to sleep with? Can you fight the fucking fires, madam? That's the relevant question. We don't care about your lady parts and we don't care who you want having access to them. Can you fight fires?

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It's rhetoric about Canada that we don't really want them. I mean, let's be honest. We don't really want them. I think they're going to be in better hands with Pierre, Polyev. I hope they do the right thing. And then our evil top hat to the north becomes less evil under Pierre. Wait, where is that quote, you guys? Debbie Murphy, where is that quote from our friends in the Canadian right-wing news?

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Okay, it's Ezra Levant. You guys got to hear this. You've got to hear this. We love this guy. He's been on the show. He's a more conservative pundit up there in Canada. And he explained why Canadians are reacting favorably, many Canadians, to the Trump rhetoric about, we'll take them. We're taking Canada too. We're taking it all. Okay, here is what he said.

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It was a threat on X. Why are Trump's 51st state comments resonating so loudly in Canada? Because of Trudeau himself. When Justin Trudeau first won election in 2015, he told an American newspaper, there is no core identity, no mainstream in Canada. He said, we're the first post-national state. Such gross left-wing rhetoric. Okay, he goes on.

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Since then, he's taken our founding prime minister off the $10 bill. He's altered our national anthem. He's accused Canada of committing genocide against our indigenous people, but he won't say that about China and the Uyghurs. He regularly accuses Canadians of being racist and sexist, even as he dresses up in blackface.

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He's denuded our military to the point where we can't even participate in NATO war games because we lack modern equipment. But he can't afford tampon dispensers in male bathrooms and military bases. His Veterans Affairs Department now recommends assisted suicide to vets with PTSD. This is why Trump's statements about becoming the 51st state sting. That's why they hit home.

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Because for a decade, Trudeau and every institution in the country, the regime media, the universities, the courts, the parliament has said Canada means nothing. Every one of Trudeau's actions say Canada means nothing. It's really just a hotel. Well, Trump knows about hotels. Why wouldn't he try to buy one, especially one that's so dilapidated?

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Can you make sure there's water in the fire hydrants when you realize in Ventura County this is a massive problem? when you realize that California is going through a drought where they haven't had rain in weeks and months, is I don't care who turns you on. And you know why they have only 100 women in a squad of 3,300? Because women tend to be smaller and not as strong.

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Listen to this, you guys. This is just tweeted out by the New York Times. Things are getting tense in L.A. as fire hydrants and reservoirs in the Palisades begin to run low. At the crest of Sunset Boulevard, a desperate man dropped to his knees in front of a firefighter who was battling a blaze consuming the home next door, begging him to turn the water on the flames threatening his own home.

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Another firefighter warned, we're down to 25%. Hold off. They're having to basically ration what's left of the water in the hydrants, given how low the supply is. I mean, they too live on water. Why is this so hard? That is mismanagement to me. It seems pretty clear.

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Guys, thank you. It's been a pleasure spending the past two hours with you. Prayers go out to our friends in California for a better result and for better leaders. I really hope they help themselves. See you guys soon. Thanks, Megan. Debbie Murphy, Canadian Debbie, lets me know that this is how they changed Canada's anthem in 2018 under Trudeau.

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It used to say, Oh, Canada, our home and native land, true patriot love in all thy son's command. And he changed it to, in all of us command because you can't have sons in anything associated with Trudeau. Like in America the Beautiful, you can't have thy brotherhood. You'd have to change it to brotherhood and sisterhood and personhood and they be hood. It's ridiculous. Goodbye.

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No one will miss you. Even the left hates you, Justin Trudeau. Before we go, I want to tell you that tomorrow on the show, we have

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A different Californian, Bill Maher, will be back on the show, and we'll ask him whether he's experiencing any of this devastation firsthand and what his reaction is to whether California will wake up and try to find some better leaders to help them with these tragedies, among others out West. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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And unless you lower the requirements to become a firefighter, most women can't pass the test. Trust me when I tell you that someone my size cannot run into a building and rescue someone even Doug's size. Never mind an Arnold Schwarzenegger who actually happens to live in L.A. or California at least. This is an absurdity. This is just like the Secret Service and what happened with Trump.

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We needed all these women in there who weren't even tall enough to protect the 6'3 president. Under this woman, Ms. Crowley, the department created a Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion Bureau to train firefighters not on refilling the hydrants or what to do when they're empty, but on the importance of DEI.

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We don't care. We don't care about any of that. I don't give a shit about how you're taking care of somebody inside the firehouse. Take care of me and my home and my kids and my animals when the fires hit. That's your real job, madam. Joining me now are our pals from The Fifth Column, Camille Foster, Michael Moynihan, and Matt Welsh, who you can find at wethefifth.com.

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Guys, welcome back to the show. For those of us holding our breath for the past several months, we can finally exhale. Work can at last be done on the major issues this country's facing, one of the most significant being our national debt. The fact is our nation's broke, and that debt is a house of cards that cannot be quickly dismantled, no matter who's the president.

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I realize certain natural disasters hit, and that's life in the world and in America and in California. But this was foreseeable, and I think we're seeing largely preventable. Your take.

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It is so windy that firefighting aircraft are not able to fly in many cases. Nearly 100,000 people are under these mandatory evacuation orders. At least 13,000 structures are under threat. The video is absolutely horrifying. Take a look at this tape here as a fire swarmed a home in Los Angeles. For the listening audience, it is right outside this guy's patio.

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This Trump, by the way, has weighed in via Truth Social saying as follows. Governor Gavin Newsom refused to sign the water restoration declaration put before him that would have allowed millions of gallons of water from excess rain and snow melt from the north to flow daily into many parts of California. Excuse me. Including the areas that are currently burning in a virtually apocalyptic way.

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It goes on from there. Camille, what do you make of what's happening here?

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you have an approximately $53 billion headstart, much of which was made possible by the fact that you are living within the wall of and benefiting from the prosperity secured by the United States of America and its free market system you teach your students to despise.

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Secretary McMahon slamming the university further, quote, Harvard University has made a mockery of this country's higher education system. It has invited foreign students who engage in violent behavior and show contempt for the United States of America to its campus. The Department of Homeland Security is conducting a separate probe into the disciplinary records of foreign students.

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Following the events of October 7th, 2023, when the Hamas terror organization, unleashed its horrific terror attack on men, women, and children in Israel, 34 Harvard student groups co-signed a letter laying the blame for the murder of innocents squarely and entirely on Israel.

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A recent anti-Semitism report commissioned by Harvard, highlighting numerous incidents of anti-Semitic harassment, reported on campus, causing genuine fear amongst Jewish students. And that'll do it for your AM Update. I'm Megyn Kelly. Join me back here for The Megyn Kelly Show, live on SiriusXM Triumph Channel 111 at New East, on YouTube.com slash Megyn Kelly, and on all podcast platforms.

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That's shopbeam.com slash M-E-G-Y-N and use code Megan for up to 40% off. Sleep better, wake up stronger, and show up ready for your family, your work, and your country. A big win for the Trump administration on its executive order banning transgender people from serving in the military. Several cases were filed challenging President Trump's executive order.

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In the most prominent two, a district court judge in D.C. and one in Seattle finding that the ban had no legitimate purpose, lifting the ban, allowing transgender service members to serve. as the cases moved through the courts. In one case, the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals reversed the lower court.

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As Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth sets out to dramatically reform the military, the media hits keep coming. But in the meantime, a big win for the Pentagon and the president.

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In the other, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals affirmed, which meant the ban was lifted, delivering a setback to Team Trump. The government appealed, and the U.S. Supreme Court, in a 6-3 decision, just overturned the Ninth Circuit, allowing the ban on so-called transgender people to go into effect while the case plays out on the merits.

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Secretary Hegseth reacting to the ruling with a post on X as follows, no more trans at DOD. It is a piece of good news for Secretary Hegseth, who continues to take hits from the media. Since Monday, at least two new reports targeting the secretary.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Wednesday, May 7, 2025, and this is your AM Update.

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Reuters reporting on a January order for military supplies to Ukraine, which Secretary Hegseth reportedly canceled, possibly without the White House's blessing. The report, based on months-old information, notes that Hegseth's order was allegedly given to stop the supplies right after a meeting between Mr. Hegseth and President Trump.

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Reuters reports, however, that no instruction was given by Mr. Trump to stop the aid, but also reports that the White House is now saying Hegseth was following an order from Mr. Trump when he paused all aid to Ukraine. Reuters clearly skeptical of that claim. Many times since then, President Trump has publicly backed Mr. Hegseth.

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The Wall Street Journal also coming out with an exclusive report headlined, quote, Hegseth used multiple signal chats for official Pentagon business. According to the report, Secretary Hegseth has at least a dozen separate chats on the encrypted messaging app, quote,

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Among the messages posted in some of the other chats by Hegseth were his thoughts on personnel matters, Pentagon programs facing cuts, and details of administration national security debates. The report, citing anonymous sources, indicates the secretary was not sharing classified but sensitive information on the app.

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The report cites a Biden-era policy restricting the use of apps like Signal for official business, then goes on to note, quote, it couldn't be determined whether Signal has been approved for use by Pentagon officials since the memo was issued.

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Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard has said that Signal comes pre-installed on government devices and was being used in the Biden administration. In the past, however, Pentagon officials have been criticized for using the app.

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Secretary Hegseth, a frequent target of legacy media and entrenched defense officials, represents a serious challenge to Washington's military status quo and its multi-billion dollar machine. On Monday, the secretary announcing a restructuring of senior military leadership.

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A harrowing systems outage leads to more than a week of dramatic delays at one of the nation's busiest airports, underscoring the need for an overhaul of the U.S. air traffic control system. The highly secretive deliberations set to begin in the Vatican as senior church officials begin the process of electing a new pope.

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The secretary saying phase one of the plan will cut at least 20 percent of the military's top ranking generals and admirals in both the active duty forces and the National Guard, with another 10 percent cut coming across the Pentagon's senior leadership. in Phase 2.

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Secretary Hegseth moving swiftly since taking his position in the Pentagon, dismissing several high-ranking Pentagon officials, including those previously aligned with woke ideology and DEI programs.

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The dismissals often sparking criticism from Democrats and some in the media, pointing to the race and gender of those removed, while supporters, including President Trump, argue the focus should remain on merit and mission readiness. Secretary Hegseth on Tuesday addressing the attacks against him at a Special Operations Forces conference.

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Under President Trump and Secretary Hegseth, military recruitment is skyrocketing, reversing a decade-long slump marked by misquotas and declining enlistment.

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And Education Secretary Lyndon McMahon tells Harvard, don't bother applying for any more federal grants. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update. Spending your nights tossing and turning, getting terrible sleep, and then dragging yourself through the next day on fumes can be a horrible cycle. It also makes you eat more. But consider Beam's Dream Powder.

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Newark Liberty International Airport, one of the nation's busiest, grappling with widespread delays and cancellations following a critical systems failure, leaving air traffic controllers unable to see or speak to incoming flights for roughly 60 to 90 seconds.

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On April 28th, controllers at the Philadelphia-based control center responsible for managing the Newark, New Jersey airspace lost radar and radio contact with the flights under their supervision. The union representing air traffic controllers saying operators were unable to see, hear, or communicate with the planes.

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CNN reporting at least five controllers working during the outage now taking up to 45 days off under the Federal Employees Compensation Act. a law designed to allow federal employees time off to recover following a traumatic event on the job.

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The CEO of United Airlines, Newark's largest carrier, slamming the controllers for, quote, walking off the job, further exacerbating already critical staffing shortages. Since Friday, the airport experiencing more than 400 canceled flights and more than 2,000 delays.

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Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer on Monday turning the incident into a political attack against the Trump administration, once again recalling an early round of doge cuts.

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Under President Obama, the FAA replaced its merit-based selection process for air traffic controller applicants in favor of a test designed to advance certain racial groups. It was part of an effort to decrease the number of whites hired, contributing to a shortage of air traffic controllers and resulting in a class action which is ongoing.

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Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy has said no critical safety positions were affected by any doge cuts, also highlighting new FAA hiring incentives aimed at boosting recruitment. the FAA reporting it's currently 3,000 controllers short of desired levels. The Newark system failure traced to a burnt copper wire, an outdated component symbolic of the broader need for infrastructure overhaul.

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Secretary Duffy, since taking office in January, repeatedly saying the U.S. air traffic control system is in desperate need of modernization, citing decades of mismanagement and neglect.

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Secretary Duffy saying the administration is set to announce the full air traffic control overhaul on Thursday. Coming up, the conclave begins today. Catholic cardinals set to choose the next pope. And Education Secretary Linda McMahon blasts Harvard University in a letter informing the Ivy that it will no longer be receiving any new federal grant money.

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Today marks the start of the conclave at the Vatican, the secretive process in which Catholic cardinals begin selecting a new pope to lead the world's approximately 1.4 billion Catholics. Several names appearing as early favorites, though Vatican watchers caution that the process is notoriously unpredictable.

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Ahead of the last conclave, Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio was far from a frontrunner, but ultimately emerged as pope, taking the name Francis. In the lead-up to the start of the conclave, security officials locking down the Sistine Chapel, where voting will take place, ensuring absolute secrecy within the proceedings.

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Let's hope whoever leaked that draft Supreme Court decision on Dobbs is not in this room. Later today, all mobile phone signals in the Vatican will be deactivated, officials installing phone jammers around the Sistine Chapel and the residences, sweeping the grounds for listening devices. Security in St. Peter's Square also beefed up to include metal detectors and anti-drone systems.

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The modern anti-surveillance technology paired with an age-old tradition, an oath to secrecy, with the penalty of excommunication if broken. The oath extending beyond the voting cardinals, all Vatican support staff also taking the vow on Monday. The cardinals will take their vow later today ahead of the first round of ballots. The next pope will be chosen by a two-thirds majority

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Secret ballots cast up to four times per day until a new pope is agreed upon, the process typically taking several days. The secret ballots are burned twice daily, first after the morning session, then again in the afternoon. Black smoke signals no decision has been reached until finally white smoke rises, announcing a new pope has been chosen.

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Secretary of Education Linda McMahon on Monday writing a blistering letter informing Harvard University officials the institution should no longer seek federal grants since none will be forthcoming. The letter marks the first official response since Harvard sued the government over a $2.2 billion freeze in grants and contracts. Secretary McMahon on Fox on Monday said...

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The secretary going on to say the administration is looking into possibly revoking Harvard's tax-exempt status, which would basically take this to DEFCON 1. More from the letter, quote, Harvard will cease to be a publicly funded institution and can instead operate as a privately funded institution, drawing on its colossal endowment and raising money from its large base of wealthy alumni.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. This is an extra for you. After a years-long battle, Prince Harry lost his fight for government-funded security when he is in the U.K.

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And of course, it's on a note like this, sour, embittered, and woe is me. Put it in perspective for us. What's he doing here?

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He's like a bored housewife who's looking for drama because he's not busy enough and he's not obviously spending enough time with his children or he might find that fulfilling. But yeah, he's looking to create drama. You can see it in like the fights that he's picking. He went on to say that he could forgive the race allegations that.

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he made, he and his wife, Megan, made both to Oprah and in their Netflix documentary. I use that term very loosely, documentary. He can forgive what happened on the racial front, but this thing about taking his security away and trying, in his view, to have him killed, that's a bridge too far. Here he is in Stop 44.

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Okay, Dan. How does it affect his every single day? We've seen his home. We've seen his garden. We've seen their extravagant lifestyle. They want us to believe they're living their best lives out there.

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How does him not having exactly the security he wants in the UK when he goes to the UK affect his every single day to where this is unforgivable, but his family allegedly being a bunch of racists against his babies, that's fine.

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You do have to worry that he's just taping them, or if he's not taping them, just going to use it as fodder for his next... book Spare 2 or his next Netflix special or his next Spotify deal once the current spigot runs out. So yeah, understandably, they don't have any desire to talk to him one-on-one. He's made it so that it's not possible, which is why this next soundbite is just so cynical.

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He knows exactly the position he's put them in. Here it is, Sot 45.

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I have that little bit from the BBC interview. We have a bunch of stats, but let me show that last one that he believes they want him dead.

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It's like what they say, you know, like coercive control. If this were a man doing it to a woman, we'd see it very clearly where if you have an abusive husband, suddenly the wife is detached from all of her family and is sending emails saying, I don't want to see you anymore. Don't bother me. And then also detached from all of her friends. And he isolates her to the point where he can control her.

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I mean, really just look at the reverse. Like that's what she effectively got him to do to alienate his entire family.

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All of his friends. Yeah. And then just to add one other point to it, you watch her and you watch him. I mean, I didn't really know this until this whole past few years. He's not smart. This is not a smart young man. And she is smart. She is very smart and she's cunning. And the more I've seen of her, the more I've seen of him, I feel like it was shooting fish in a barrel for her. Oh my God.

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He stood no chance when this woman put her designs on him. She had him from the word. Hello.

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I had never considered that, but you are 100% right. That's exactly what he's done. It's like he needed... to repeat the same pathology somehow.

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And she is meanwhile, trying to have her cake and eat it too, because she's putting out this perfectly curated life on her stupid Netflix special, you know, with her, Oh, you know, I just had like just the perfect bath salts and just the perfect tea and just the perfect pretzel. And you know, the, the, the, fruit spread that takes eight hours to prepare. That's just what I do before school.

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It's the kind of mom I am. Then she meanders over to this podcast of this woman who created IT Cosmetics, Jamie Kern Lima. And I knew there was something weird about this woman. I interviewed her, Dan, when I was at NBC about creating IT Cosmetics.

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And she did have the high, I can't even do it, my voice is too low, but she had the high squeaky voice a little, but she's really leaning in now in her little podcast with Megan. And she's gone next octave up. And the two of them have the weirdest dynamic. And so in this podcast, Megan does her perfectly curated life thing, but she's allegedly wearing no makeup.

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Meanwhile, she's got like the perfect blowout, you know, like she's completely camera ready, except she didn't put eye makeup on. And she also is pretending that she's crying. And we did a zero in, like we zoomed in just to see. There isn't a tear in sight, Dan. Look, look at this. I invite the viewers to take a close-up look at this. Where's the tear? There's nothing there.

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Look, it's an actor's trick. She just keeps wiping and wiping and wiping. So we think she has a heart.

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So the reason they won't pay for his ongoing security when he visits the UK is because they want him dead, Dan.

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That's all she does. She only has on people who she gave money to so they can say how amazing she is.

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Vanity Fair confirmed that in their big... Wait, that she's shopping her post-divorce memoir? What?

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Why would she be doing that? Because that would really show the crack in the facade. I have trouble believing that because she right now wants to maintain the facade and wants to solve to believe that it's perfect in Montecito, in a well-known Montecito time where we have champagne with fruit dollops inside of it at all hours of the day.

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But anyway, so why would she risk that news coming out by actively shopping? You know, it doesn't make sense to me.

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Not true. Okay. Two things here. Indeed is the piece from the vanity fair cover story from February, 2025 inside Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's big business ambitions. Five years after the Royal exit quote, a few years ago, a rumor began circulating around the book world, uh, about another prospective project for Megan.

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This story, which a person with knowledge confirms the broad details of, was that Megan's team had a conversation with a publishing house to gauge interest in the idea for a potential book. The concept, for which there was no written or formal proposal, was post-divorce. not a general book on life after marital dissolution or one about Megan's past experience.

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This book, this notion of a book really might center on a post Harry divorce. Not that there was actually one in the works. Just if this, uh, If this a a priori divorce ever came to be, would this publisher theoretically be interested in a book that took place in its aftermath? Unbelievable. I totally miss this.

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Following the legal ruling, Prince Harry ran to the media, shock, and participated in a sit-down interview with the BBC claiming he does not see a world where he could bring Megyn and the kids back to the U.K., alleging we know where the responsibility lies if something were to happen to his father's grandchildren, while admitting he doesn't know how long his father, the King of England, has left.

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Another source with knowledge says if that's true to any degree, she would have been approached and not vice versa. No offer was ever made and no manuscript was produced. After all, there was no divorce. That doesn't mean they didn't shop the interest on what, you know, there would be in a book.

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Oh, my God. Dan, I threw up in my mouth. Yes. Yes. Dan, when you do interviews on your show, do you do the Jamie Kern Lima reactions? Yes. Yes. Oh my God, there's something wrong with her. Who communicates like that? She's the only thing saving Meghan Markle because between the two, she's even weirder. But Meghan Markle, this is a tell. Okay, this is a tell. It's the same way on Valentine's Day.

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You see people post like, my rock, my life, my life partner, the person who saved me. guaranteed that guy is cheating on her and she knows it. Like nobody does those over the top, like crazy, right? It's like maybe here or there, but like, this is how she always tries to sound in talking. Like, and he's a fox. Like there's something wrong. That seems obvious.

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Yes. Yes. And why would he want to reconcile with people who literally want him dead? I mean, it doesn't make any sense. And so it isn't true. That's basically the rule. He unfortunately, it looks like we're going to be stuck with him because he said the following in Stop 42.

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celebration of ve day 10 years because all of these veterans are now in their late 90s or early 100s and we saw prince george and king charles i saw that prince william brought prince george and prince george was asking situationally appropriate questions of the veterans like they were thoughtful and sensitive they they were wise not to bring prince louis but but the Right?

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The next in line after Prince William was so appropriate and thoughtful and caring. They look great, as they always do. They seem like genuinely good people. And she looks like the narcissist that she obviously is.

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She really needs to make a decision. It's like she wants, she loves being the mother of a prince and a princess. Like she loves that so much. And she knows that people in the UK, especially, would love to see them. You know, they have a connection to the royal family. They don't like her, but I don't think anybody would hold it against her children. They'd like to see the lineage.

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And they're technically, I guess, in the line of succession, if many, many bad things would happen. But so she just teases them. You know, it's like, here's just the back of his head. even though she's making public figures out of them because she talks about them all the time. And Harry uses them, my father's grandchildren, as a cudgel.

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So they're happy to use these children at every turn, whether it's to make money or to make threats, but just to tease, you know, because what, I guess we can't see their face unless it's on Netflix, in which case it's fine. Because they do put out pictures of them every once in a while.

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Well, what about the use of HRH? Because we saw in her interview with this Jamie Kern Lima that they were celebrating what a thoughtful person Meghan was, that she had sent this Jamie a gift basket. And we saw in the picture of it, her stationery, it says, Her Royal Highness, the Duchess of Sussex. And it's got a little crown insignia on it. She loves being a royal.

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Yeah, because that's what they're claiming. Oh, no, the agreement was that we wouldn't use them professionally. But this was a personal gift.

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I'm going to send you ice cream and I'm going to sign it. The Time 100's Dr. Megan Kelly, thanks to my dearest doctor. That's just how I sign my things. I just want to make sure my titles are all properly accounted. It's so self-aggrandizing. But at the same time, if anything they've said about the royal family is true, anything, you wouldn't want those titles. You wouldn't want the link.

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The people who didn't care that I was suicidal, wanted to kill myself and basically wanted me to do it. The people who tried to have my husband killed, who my husband is now saying would like history to repeat itself so that we could die. the people who were too racist to love my baby and really concerned about how dark his skin was going to be.

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And I used a huge platform with Oprah Winfrey to tell the world about how the people who live in the country that I think is racist because of Brexit, those are the people to whom I am HRH, Duchess of Sussex. You'd want nothing to do with these titles.

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Stomach turning, Dan. And I love my country, you know, despite what some people there have done. He's got so much anger. What did we do?

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It's completely irrelevant. And listen, she's irrelevant, too. The only reason we talk about her is because they continue to create this drama around the royal family about which we do care. Some of us in America really love following the royals and think they're fun and exciting. And it's not that we want to be ruled by them, but I love following the royal family. They're just fun.

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And the history is interesting and they're beautiful. And it's just sort of like an escape of sorts. Yeah.

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I know these American women, they don't have a great track record when they start to date the English princes and kings. It's I'm sorry. And but you know what? We are paying more than our fair share of the penance having these two stuck over here. And I have to say, I think this is probably another thing that Harry doesn't like about living in California is sure.

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You know, I'm sure when people first meet him, they're like, oh, Harry, cool. But Americans are used to big celebrities, especially in California. And they're not going to treat him the way the average Brit would if one of the princes of England came in. You know, it's just different here. We don't really love royalty.

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And I'm sure he misses the cachet that comes with being Prince Harry and part of the royal family as you walk around Great Britain. It's not the same in Montecito. And by the way, there are people who are far richer and more famous than those

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I hope they don't forgive her. I really hope William and Catherine remember what she did. Again, when their grandfather was dying, she was terrible. And that was more terrible acting, almost as bad as Meghan's fake tears were the Oprah Winfrey. What? What? What? And it was all black. It was awful.

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Anyway, it's so fun to cover them because they're just ridiculous people and they're so easy to see through. So we have to do it when they give us this fodder. We have to go with it when they give us the ingredients. We bake the cake and nobody does it like you, Dan Wooden. It's a pleasure. And you got to check him out. Check out his podcast. It's Dan Wooden Outspoken.

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He's on his own now and he is outspoken and can be in a way that he never could when controlled by corporate media. And we support it. So good for Dan. Check him out wherever you get your podcasts for free. We'll see you next time. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear. If you haven't heard about Riverbend Ranch, listen up.

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And be prepared, once you taste it, I think you're going to be coming back for more and more. Again, riverbendranch.com, code Megan.

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Right. So the thing he's whining about now is that when he left the royal family and his official role, they said, we're not going to be paying for your security when you come over here. You're no longer a working royal, so you're not going to get the police force around you when you pay visits here. And Harry's argument to the BBC and in court was, I can never leave the royal family.

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I could leave as a working royal, but I am part of the royal family and therefore I'm in danger and that they never did a review of my security status. They just yanked it to try to force me. And you were saying this couldn't possibly be, but try to force me to stay as a working royal because he said my threat level was the highest of anybody in Back in like 2020.

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And then they revoked all my protection without even doing an additional security assessment, proving in his mind they knew I was at risk. And while I left as a working royal, I never can leave being a royal because, as he said to the BBC, you know, I am who I am.

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I believe that too. That's what I say. I say those two killed the queen. That's my opinion. They killed the queen. Yeah, she would have lived longer had they not ruined her last two years on earth with their selfishness. So much stress. He lost at the trial court level. on this push to make the British royal family pay for his security when he goes to the UK.

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And then he appealed it and he's just lost the appeal. And now he runs to the BBC, he's totally forlorn. He's like, can't believe I lost this. And now he's got this warning for his cancer stricken father in SOP 43.

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I mean, what a manipulation. My father's grandchildren, they're going to die and it will be his fault. That's what he was saying there.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. We witnessed a norm-breaking presidential address to Congress last night, but not for the reasons the corporate media will tell you.

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And the speech writing around their stories, really good. Let's just start with, since we're on the subject of little DJ, let's watch that moment.

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His dad lifts him up. The Secret Service giving him a badge. Oh, and he hugs him. That's a good service. Hugging DJ. Full arms around the neck. Thank you, DJ.

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Where were the cries of horror from the Democrats in response to that breach of decorum like we saw with old Joe, what's his name, a couple of years ago, who yelled out, you lie, to Barack Obama?

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I mean, wow. And I'll just finish it off rich by showing you the Democrat reaction. So here's the video. You can see the Republicans in the front clapping and you can see the Democrats sitting, see them in the back. They're all sitting. They couldn't get to their feet for that moment. They've, they've lost their way. That's there's something deeply wrong with somebody who cannot stand for that.

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And then after the speech was over, you will not believe, I mean, maybe you will, but I think it's still shocking what one MSNBC host had to say in particular about that sweet 13-year-old cancer-surviving boy. We're going to get into it now, starting with Rich Lowry, editor of National Review. Aren't you tired of the corporate media prioritizing certain narratives over the facts?

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It's true. Even if he was if he were saying it's for your constituents, each of your constituents is getting one. No, no, it's a no. Exactly. All right. So now we will go to the moment that made Heart of Steel Debbie Murphy cry. I'm giving her a hard time. She's actually a lovely person. But It takes a lot for hard news people to actually shed a tear.

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It does, because we're just in this business where we use gallows humor and we cover the darkest events of our times every day for years. She's been with me since I launched my first show in 2007. And this was it. It had to do with Jocelyn Nungare. This was a little girl who was 12 years old who went out to the 7-Eleven and got attacked by two illegals from Venezuela.

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And they sexually assaulted her, tortured her, and threw her off a bridge. And her mother was there. This is one of the reasons I personally voted for Donald Trump and ran to the voting booth to do it. I was literally thinking of Jocelyn Ngare. I didn't go to a voting booth. I figured it out. I filled it out by mail. But my point is simply, that's who was on my mind.

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This girl's story was so harrowing. And her poor mother, so distraught. And there was no reason for it. There was no reason for it. Joe Biden opened the southern border and killers came across. And the Democrats know it's true. It was done intentionally. And her mother was there last night and President Trump announced an extraordinary thing to remember Jocelyn in Sat 12. Here it is.

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You can see she's trying not to cry rich and he, you know, to your point about the showmanship, right there, there's showmanship going on there, but there's true emotion too. I mean, you, is there something wrong with you again, if you, if you don't feel it. And yet again, here is the Democrat reaction to that moment. Like, How do they not stand?

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How is not everyone on the left side of the chamber standing and clapping for that?

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I am too, of course. That's one of the reasons why we started this show, to have real conversations with tough questions, to try to get to the truth. And this is one of the reasons why I wanna tell you about Ground News, an independent app and website not at the mercy of corporate control.

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And what we're seeing still is that the support for Trump's policies when it comes to immigration remain sky high. I mean, even just those two polls that I mentioned at the top, let's see, Trump's immigration and border plan. How do you feel about it? 77% like, only 23% say they dislike it. I mean, and then from the CNN survey, let's see, they go on.

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Roughly six in 10 viewers said they approved of Trump's handling of the presidency. And they point out, this is the CNN survey, Trump scored his highest marks of the night for his policies on immigration. 76% of speech watchers said his proposed policies on this issue would take America in the right direction.

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And then CNN trying to make it sound like it's a much different story when it comes to his other policies, they say, compared with closer to six in 10 who feel positive about his proposals to change how the government works. Just 63 percent favor that rich and his proposed policies on the economy. Just 62 percent favor that.

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OK, like those are amazing numbers for any presidential policy in a country that's as divided as ours is. But 76 percent on his immigration plans. Get up and clap for what he did for Jocelyn Nungare.

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Yeah. So here is Alexis Nogari, Jocelyn's mom, who went on Hannity after the speech.

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I don't, to me, that was just so powerful, you know, equally to DJ, a 13 year old cancer stricken boy, because I feel like every mother sitting at home understands and father instinctually that woman's pain and the horror that she's been through as a result of this open border.

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And all she's saying is maybe acknowledge my daughter, acknowledge what happened to her, forget what Trump has done to close the border. But like, where is the humanity when it comes to my dead 12 year old? I just, I don't think women respond positively to any sort of F you to that looks like an F you to her. I don't, I don't think most men will either.

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I just think as a matter of politics, rich, obviously humanity, yes, you should be on your feet clapping, but as a matter of politics, um, Like I, obviously they came up with a plan, just not, not to clap and not to stand for anything, but why, how could they be so foolhardy as opposed to like, if there's a moment that's genuinely heartfelt, that, that moves you, of course, show your humanity.

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It's amazing to see. Here is that MSNBC reaction that I teased at the top of the show. And this was in response to little DJ. And honestly, I don't know what's happened to this person. She used to be a Republican. She was the person who shepherded Chief Justice John Roberts through his confirmation process. It's Nicole Wallace, who now I think her next job will be with the Lincoln Project.

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Oh my God. That is jaw-dropping. We went back and looked to see what the reaction on set was to her. And even her fellow panelists, from Jen Psaki to Rachel Maddow, you could see Jen Psaki literally leaning away from her. And even Rachel Maddow, without commenting on that, just moved away, bridged away to another topic. When you've gone too far for Psaki and Maddow, you've gone too far, period.

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That's G-R-O-U-N-D news.com slash Megan to invest in your ability to think critically about the news. Rich, I thought it was a great speech. I prepared for utter boredom because that's what these things typically deliver. Even with Trump, I just figured it's going to be kind of a bore. His past State of the Unions have not been anywhere near this entertaining.

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It's true. And she saw the same thing we saw where his eyes got all big when President Trump said he was going to be made an honorary Secret Service. He was so excited. The hug, he threw his arms around the Secret Service director. It was a sincere embrace. And that's where she went like, I hope he doesn't die on President Trump's Capitol Hill.

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Not DJ. It's such a strange syndrome. TDS is a very strange syndrome. It really should be in the DSM-5. And it's very unfortunate because once afflicted, you really cannot get out from under it. It's like... what is it? Personality disorder. If you have a personality disorder, it's almost impossible to get out of it. Maybe it is impossible. And there are a lot of my moms in the psychiatric field.

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I mean, now she's retired, but she was telling me a lot of psychiatrists just won't even try to treat that. Same thing with like sociopaths. There's really no curing you of sociopathy. There's no curing you of TDS. Once you get it, it's a lifelong affliction and it really does warp The way you see everything around you, you, you see the pot of gold and to you, it looks like crap.

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You know, you see a wonderful event for a child and instead you see only doom and gloom and darkness. If it has anything to do with the orange man. And I, it's strange how it's like, it's broken for the rest of the country. Like they never really had it. And so now it's, They look at these people and they're not watching them. We were talking about this yesterday, Rich.

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Sometimes when you're in the opposition, your numbers go up. At Fox News, our numbers always went up when we were in the so-called opposition. It was Democrat president under Barack Obama, et cetera. Their numbers are not going up under MSNBC post-election. They're still withering on the vine. The numbers are horrid. And I really think it's because of this.

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Trump's policies were not... Yes, tariffs are controversial, right? But like... Everything else he talked about was really not even controversial. And the celebration of these suffering Americans and giving them a gift is a feel-good moment that we can all get behind. And the dour, TDS-afflicted anchors crapping all over the child's joy is something...

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I mean, and not to mention, you know, seditious conspiracy and the mentioning of six cops who died by suicide. You know how many cops? First of all, being a police officer is extremely stressful, especially these days, thanks to her side's soft on crime policies and what's happening to cops on the street.

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And to attribute post-J6 suicides to Donald Trump, you know how many suicides there were from cops after the BLM riots? No, we don't because nobody kept track of that.

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What about Daniel Dorn, who was or David Dorn, who was killed in one of the BLM riots? I don't. What about him? Her mind just goes to J6. They're obsessed with J6. It's just whatever. I can't save them. It's a very interesting, you know, psychological illness. I hope she gets the help she so desperately needs.

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But last night, he kept everything tight. He didn't linger on any point too long. He didn't get too deep into policy to where your eyes glazed over. He was just hitting his points. He went off script in a way that was funny, endearing. I know the left didn't like it, but everybody laughed at the Pocahontas remark on Elizabeth Warren. They're just very funny asides in his delivery.

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There was one other controversial subject, though, the way Trump got in and out of it was clever and it was Ukraine. You know, he he styles it in a way that's tough to disagree with. Like he wants the killing to stop. It's like, well, who? Yes, that you should clap for that. Like, that's also one of those like, yes.

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But of course, it's become a very hot button issue because people think he's pressuring Zelensky too much and not Putin enough and so on. But. Well, this is one of the more notable moments of the night where Trump was trying to make these points. And the Democrats, they clapped. I can't remember what the line was. Well, I'll just play this up. This is where he went out after Elizabeth Warren.

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And it was one of the few times where they were clapping, the Dems, 16.

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Reaction shot. She's the sole person clapping. And it's just like Trump doesn't give a fig. He'll use that term anywhere. He's not different behind closed doors versus how he is in front of the camera. But she is. She lied to the American public for years about being a Native American. And that's kind of what he's he's like, this person has no credibility.

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President Donald Trump gave a speech that was quintessential Trump, full of surprises and performance and excitement and in a dynamic way that actually electrified the audience in front of him. Words no one has ever spoken before about an address to Congress in this setting.

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And and the only thing she's clapped for all night is more money to Ukraine for a war that we all know is not going well.

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And Trump also announced last night that Zelensky sent him a letter saying he will accept the minerals deal. And that process is now back on track, which, again, is a positive development, though you wouldn't know that from that side of the chamber last night.

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I didn't go back, as I promised I would, to Al Green, a Democrat from Texas who decided to make this evening about him, about himself and got up there. It was a it was a. consistent, ongoing heckling of Donald Trump. It wasn't like... I mean, I remember that when Joe Wilson yelled out, you lie to Obama. And it dominated the news the whole next day. It was a huge deal, this breach of decorum.

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This guy got up there and would not sit down. He was like a code pinker who just kept yelling with his cane, almost like menacing Donald Trump with his cane. He's 77 years old. By the way, Trump's 78. And... wouldn't take a seat. It was actually really interesting because what you saw was J.D.

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I was talking about this with Doug this morning. If I delivered the same things Trump delivered last night, people might be mildly bemused and say, okay, that's a good line. But the way Trump delivers these things really has you laughing out loud. He's so funny. And when he unleashes it in the right setting, it's endearing and it totally works.

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Vance and Speaker Mike Johnson behind Trump saying to the sergeant at arms in the house, get him out of here with the thumb, like get him out. And eventually Mike Johnson issued the order for the sergeant at arms to restore order to the chamber. And he was ejected, which I'm sure is what he wanted. But here's some of that that moment as chaos broke out.

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A few things happening there, Rich, that jumped out at me. Trump first gives the thumb, you know, point and like, get him out of here. The Republicans have gotten good about this USA chant. I noticed it when I went down for some of the confirmation hearings like Hegseth, when protesters came in, Pete's supporters, most of whom, by the way, were military vets.

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just got up and started enchanted USA. They did it for Bobby Kennedy too. It's pretty effective, right? They don't allow the hecklers veto. Look at that guy, get them out. And JD Vance also with the, you know, the rap sign, like get them out. And I have to say what, that was one of the dynamics that jumped out at me last night was JD Vance,

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with his, as the kids, the kids have a term bombastic side eye. He had the bombastic side eye many times looking over the Democrats with those like twinkly blues, which are, you know, they know how to cast dispersions by just like a sort of wink and a nod. And boy, you could just see

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He was literally behind the president and he was figuratively behind the president at every moment looking out for people who weren't clapping, people who were, you know, potential hecklers. And I thought it was kind of nice.

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I noticed the dynamic and I thought to myself, that's the kid who has the background in Appalachia who would beat the shit out of you if you said anything bad about his mother, even though he said plenty of bad things about his mother. But it's different. The rules in the challah, as he pointed out, were... you know, you can rip on your mom or your family, but nobody else can.

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And even though he's got a mild manner in general, like he is a street fighter at heart. Anyway, all of that jumped out at me in like the ongoing dynamics around Trump last night. Your thoughts?

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And I think it's why, in part, the speech was so well-received. CBS YouGov survey of 1,200 adults, though this is more heavily weighted toward Republicans, 51% Republicans, 27% independents, 20% Dems, but showing 76% approve of the speech. Um, time spent on issues get you care about 63% say a lot speech made you feel hopeful 68%.

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Right. Trump handled himself well. He did not lose it. He did not acknowledge him other than the, you know, get him out of here. And so he didn't take the bait, which was good. And as much as, you know, J.D. and Mike Johnson, they gave him the rat tail, which was totally appropriate.

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Sergeant at Arms was a little slow on the ejection, no? It was like, where is he? Get him out.

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I thought there might be if it's a war protester who sneaked in or who is against a member. This was a member sitting right there.

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Yeah, exactly. OK, so. Last but not least, the Democrat response, which is always just like a terrible job. If asked, you should say no. It was Alyssa Slotkin, who I didn't know much about. She's a newly elected senator from Michigan. And when I went and saw her at the Pete Hegseth confirmation hearings, she started off by talking about her background in the CIA, how she signed up after 9-11.

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She determined she'd be in security and then she got recruited by the CIA and she served under George W. Bush and Obama, bipartisan, you know, more blue collar, blue, you know, crossover, blue dog, Democrat. No. The answer is no. You heard the way she cross-examined Pete and you quickly learned this is a hateful person who I personally grew to loathe in the moment.

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But last night, while projecting that he's an existential threat, she tried to weave the, you know, I'm totally normal and this is what Democrats are. And therefore, the selection of her made some sense. But here's how she sounded.

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And then even CNN with a survey, um, which does not appear to have that sort of partisan waiting that, uh, 69% had either very or somewhat positive reaction to the speech. Your thoughts.

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OK, I mean, it just went on and on and on. I really I have to say, I don't think she's the future of the party as the Democrats think she is. I just think she's she showed a rabid partisanship and attack dog nature in her exchange with him. We can show more of it later. But in any event, I don't know. Do you think that's the future of the Democratic Party there, Rich?

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Join me now, editor-in-chief and host of Two-Way on YouTube, Mark Halperin. Mark, welcome back. So what'd you think of last night?

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We haven't yet shown the Lake and Riley moment. Her mother and sister were there. That mother's face was the picture of anguish. I mean, it was just, oh, heart-wrenching. And of course, her daughter was the subject and the name of President Trump's first legislative act that actually did get passed and is now law, the Lake and Riley Act.

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Mother and daughter on their feet, clapping. The Democrats all seated again.

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She has thank you to the president, Lakin's mom. And once again, even after that piece of it, you know, it was sort of a separate line about we'll never forget Lakin. The Democrats did not stand. Here's the video again. Like they couldn't even find the heart to stand for just that piece. Like we will never forget her. Nope. The grieving mother literally in tears. And they sat there.

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You know, it's one thing, Mark, to see the Supreme Court sitting there. We know they never stand. Or, you know, the heads of the military branches. They never stand. But those Democrats not even feigning empathy. What did you make of it?

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Why do you think so, Mark? Because I honestly like we we've all been watching State of the Union addresses for many years. And in my experience, I don't remember them all bit by bit, but they would sit there and not clap if it were a partisan issue and telegraph to the country. I disagree. But on the human moments, you would you'd have many instances in which the whole chamber would.

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claps if for no other reason, even if they're not really feeling it just because of good politics. So clearly the Democrats met and decided it would be bad politics to clap for anything.

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It's amazing because one of their failures last night was to telegraph, like, what is it about Trump that you find so objectionable? You know, when he won in 16, people kind of knew. You know, he had said things that had been bandied about in the media quite often.

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You know, the opening speech about Mexico not sending their best, the rapists and so on, which would have been bastardized by the press. But whatever, there was a narrative, a very clear narrative around Trump. Now it's just so amorphous. The last thing we heard was he's Hitler. And then the country rejected that and elected him. And that was one of the things I was searching for last night.

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Like, tell us what it is. What is the reason you hate him and you can't stand for anything? Your little bingo sign of Musk steals and just false information. or the random save Medicaid doesn't really do it.

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So I felt like it was an utter failure of messaging on their part, which it was just wound up in a total victory for Trump because there he is hitting his points, using a sense of humor, getting laughs, getting applause from the Republicans and probably from people at home.

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And then the Democrats walking right into the trap he had set of showing zero humanity or empathy while also not making clear why it is they're being so nasty and

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The thing about DJ was he was not controversial. He wants to be a police officer. It's not like there was a backstory behind him and something happened that was caused by Democrats. That's not where Trump went with his story. It was just a nice story about a kid who wants to be a cop. In a way, it was kind of endearing toward cops. Maybe that's their problem. I don't know.

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But that was such a weird one not to stand for. Lake and Riley was killed by illegals, but still there's not an American in the country who's in favor of Americans being killed by illegals, you know, with the grieving mother and sister standing there.

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Then we get to Peyton McNabb, who was hit in the face by a volleyball, spiked at her by a male player pretending to be a female in her high school in North Carolina. And again, I realize the Democrats are very pro this so-called trans agenda, but they know very well from the last election mark that the country is not. That is an 80% issue. There are no 80% issues in America, virtually none.

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But 80 percent of the populace does not want boys playing in girls sports. That's why he wisely brought Peyton McNabb to the state, whatever the address last night. And here he is remarking on Peyton McNabb's McNabb's presence. And then we'll show you the reaction. Stop five.

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And here's the video of the Democrat reaction, which is the same reaction that we saw to DJ, to Lake and Riley's parents, to every moment that tugged at the heartstrings. They did not stand. And he had gone through Peyton's injuries, which are severe. There's partial paralysis on her right side. She suffered a traumatic brain injury.

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By the way, the male who hurt her never apologized and actually was angry with Peyton for even speaking out about it. She's been on our show. In any event, There too. And that's again an 80% issue, Mark.

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Right. They I was listening to The New York Times is The Daily Podcast this morning. And of course, it was all about how this Peyton McNabb, this it's a culture war issue. She was injured by a trans woman. You know, they don't talk about the biological realities of who like some people are still confused by that term. We talk about it so often here. Our audience is not.

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But they're intentionally obfuscating what happened there. And for most people, I think this was a breath of fresh air to hear Trump get this specific on what's real and what's not. But again, the Democrats sat and did nothing, sought six.

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I'll tell you something, Mark, for me personally, having covered this very closely for a long time, it was heartening enough just to see all the Republicans on their feet for that. You know that five years ago, that would have been a very dicey thing to say in this setting. And even the Republicans would have been unsure about whether they could stand and clap on that.

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Big time. Here is one of those moments where he was talking about some of the Doge discoveries on waste, fraud and abuse. Sot seven.

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I mean, even when I interviewed Trump in September of 23 and I asked him, can a man become a woman? He was uncomfortable. He was like, well, I say no, I don't think so. You know, like he's gotten much more bold. And of course, we saw that on the campaign trail. And it's it's look, it's something to have him say that in the House chamber on a night as big as that. So that's a win.

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And the Democrats either will come along or they'll get left behind. We'll we'll have to wait and see. You know, there was there were audible boos and pushback when Trump talked about his historic victory. They really don't like to acknowledge that on the left. And that's when Al Green got up there and started harassing Trump. And, you know, sort of things got chaotic inside of the chamber.

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But this was debated, interestingly, the other day when Stephen A. Smith went on The View. And Joy Behar, you know, she too pushed back. And even on this morning's The Daily, Maggie Haberman was pushing back on just how historic the victory was. They really don't want to... Say historic. They don't want to say mandate. They don't want to say any of the things that Trump says.

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And they put it into the guys are like fact checking him. Let me show you the exchange I'm talking about with Behar and Smith. It's not 27.

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It's very funny to me. Let's just keep redefining it until I feel better.

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Your co-host over on Two Way, Dan Turrentine, we love him too. He's a Democrat. He tweeted out the following. I love my party, but tonight was a new low. I get silence on this or that policy and the raw politics of the base's anger.

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But for not a single Democrat to stand and applaud a boy's brave battle with cancer or a man's admission to West Point, which was a surprise Trump gave to one of the audience members, was a classless disgrace. And maddeningly, while overall Trump's speech was politically good, there were political holes that could be exploited, juvenile taunts that voters hate and comical lies.

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But much of that will be buried by our self-inflicted stupidity. Do you agree with that? And how will it be buried? Like what happens from here, the media coverage in the wake of the speech and just the tone setting that happened last night?

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It's basically a State of the Union, but they call it just a joint address to Congress because it's his first year in office. And the presumption is you won't have much to talk about because you've only been in office six weeks. Not this president, not this night. Obviously, Donald Trump knows good TV and how to deliver it.

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I know. I mean, with not a single Dem voting for the Protect Women and Girls in Sports Act, not a single Democrat voting for cloture on that bill, I don't know what he's going to get any crossover votes on. I really don't. That was just such a no-brainer. This is not Megyn Kelly and her wishful thinking. It truly is an 80% support issue. It was a very simple, clean bill.

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It wasn't filled with a bunch of weird things that might get them in trouble. and they, they didn't vote for it. So I like, I, yes, he'll get his budget bill through because he can do that with just 51 votes. You don't have to, you don't need a cloture vote on that. So that'll be good. But I, I don't know what's going to happen on, on the rest of his agenda.

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When we're speaking about legislative wins, it doesn't seem very promising. Um, Okay, on your point about what the Dems are going to do and they're getting their act together, apart from their little bingo signs, their little auctioneer signs, false, false. They released this weird thing on video this week that's making some news. What the heck happened here?

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So first, some eagle-eyed ex-users noticed that a few of these Dems, I think it was Senator Schumer, Senator Warren, and Senator Cory Booker, seem to be using the exact same script to just drop these sort of, you know, F you videos to Trump. Here's, here's how it first emerged.

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We get it. We get what they did. And then it emerged that at least 22, I think it's up to 23 senators, did the exact same thing that we just saw there. Here it is, Sat 26.

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It's amazing. They're all obviously reading. They're following an exact script. They actually seem to stand and sit at the same point as well. The whole thing's scripted, choreographed. Um, what's going on there. And I, like that was just released on social media. So I guess this is the new, like younger, hipper digital lane. Dem.

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They Elon Musk tweeted out, I'll give somebody a free Cybertruck if they can tell me who created this script, like who is patient zero on this. And I guess Cory Booker today said it was me and you can keep your Cybertruck, which was a dumb addendum because who wouldn't want a free Cybertruck? But I guess he was behind it. Here's the thing, though.

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If you have kids, you know, the rule is the last thing you want to be is cringe. Right. If you're going to do it, got to do it well. And you're not supposed to be cringy. That was cringy. So is this by Representative Jasmine Crockett, who I think is 42 years old, not 28.

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Someone should have told her that before she dropped this video before the State of the Union or joint address to Congress last night. Watch.

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I just think it's ridiculous. There's no dignity. You know, it's like you could be cool. You could do a fun video. I mean, I have to say, in most ways, AOC understands this and she does. She uses social media very effectively. This is not it. And they're just to me, it just shows that they're struggling. So speaking of struggling, Tim Walls.

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If I think I could offer something, I would certainly consider that when asked if he's open to a 2028 presidential run. If I think I could offer something, I would certainly consider that. I'm also, though, not arrogant enough to believe there's a lot of people that can do this. I'll do whatever it takes. So do we think that Tim Walz is a serious candidate for next leader of the party?

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Oh, wow. That's saying something. All right. Last but not least, over on the Republican side, Pam Bondi in a bit of a controversy this week because she had the White House and there's new ABC News reporting on this. The White House invited those influencers to the White House last week, reportedly as a.

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a thank you, a way to honor and thank strong online influencers of the kind that you just mentioned. Chaya Raychik behind Libs of TikTok, Jack Posobiak, Chad Pranther, Liz Wheeler, a bunch of right-wing influencers. And apparently, according to ABC, unbeknownst to them... They weren't expecting this.

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They were brought in to a meeting with Pam Bondi and Kash Patel, and she then surprised them with those Epstein file binders. And so I didn't realize that they were totally caught off guard with this. And so when we saw them emerging from the West Wing holding these binders and kind of like laughing about it, they didn't know what they had.

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And the reporting is that she chose not to loop in any White House senior staff on this. She chose to keep it a secret from them because she thought that it would be like a fun surprise, that they would be pleased. But it turned out that there was absolutely nothing new in these binders.

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Exactly. Whether the Democrats found it funny or not, the average American sitting at home laughed at that. There's just no question there. No one who doesn't have TDS didn't get a chuckle out of that. Right. Like it's he's exactly right. None of us has ever has ever heard of that place or whatever it was called. Yeah. Lesotho, although John Podoritz was tweeting out, he goes, I've heard.

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And it had the unfortunate effect of embarrassing the influencers because they'd been told and believed Cash and Bondi that they'd been given something exciting and new and, you know, proprietary information. So now there's been fallout because it's a question of who embarrassed an influential group around the president, right, who really deserve nothing other than thanks from him.

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Who embarrassed them? Why? How? Why wasn't senior White House staff told? And why was a thank you session turned into a Pam Bondi Epstein drop information session that actually was no actual info? All that happened. We have the ABC News report on it.

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And now Bondi saying that she did get a truckload of documents from the FBI who she accused of withholding against both her and Kash Patel's orders, though the next drop has not been received. And the question is whether she's in any sort of trouble. Trump had very warm references to her last night.

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I mean, if she makes it up to them by giving them the next big round and it genuinely is a scoop, I think that'll heal, you know, that'll mend fences. If they remain in the position they're in right now, thanks to her, I think she's in for some PR trouble over the next coming months because she's probably lost a lot of goodwill with them. Mark, you have all the goodwill in the world here.

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It's just John and whoever enacted that policy on the left. Okay, so let's talk about the Democrat response for a minute, then we'll go back to Trump. The little signs, Simone Sanders tweeted out, and I totally agreed, they were giving off bingo vibes. Like, this was their big resistance. These tiny little signs, which look like, you know, you were at an auction, like, I'll take Lesotho for $10.

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I want to take you now to a troubling situation in Maine where not everyone has gotten the memo about parental rights. Members of the school board in Maine School Administrative District 11 are seeking to launch a health clinic at a high school where medical providers, not parents, will make key decisions for students. Here's what officials from the clinic said at a December school meeting. Watch.

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So no parental involvement, none whatsoever. And that term mental health is doing a lot of work there. It's a very large category that excludes the parent from any decision-making. That woman you just heard, CEO of HealthReach, is correct about Maine law and when children can consent to procedures, medicine potential without parental permission.

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And while HealthReach says there are no plans right now to offer hormone treatments for so-called trans students, parents are understandably very concerned about where this is going. You saw the Maine governor with Trump last week. There's an agenda in Maine. But thanks now in part to an email campaign by a group called Courage is a Habit. MSAD 11 has not yet approved that clinic.

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And we are monitoring developments closely ahead of tomorrow's school board meeting. Here now to tell us more is Courage is a Habit president, Alvin Louie. Alvin, thank you so much for keeping a finger on the pulse of this one. So what specifically is this about? They're bringing in a so-called health clinic for the children with what appears to be the express goal of excluding parents?

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That read, like, Musk lies or false. Like, whoa, whoa. Yeah, uh-huh. They're throwing down musk steels. Okay. I mean, war criminal. Oh, well, that's going to turn the hearts and minds. What did you make of the resistance with that and some people wearing the pink in honor of the pea hats they wore back in 2016? This was their big F.U. ?

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What do you mean referring out? How would it work under the proposed system that you are objecting to? If a kid comes in to this clinic and says, I'm gender confused.

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Oh my God. So your child could first get a COVID vaccine, which we know, especially in young males, has a disturbingly high risk of causing heart infection. Myocarditis could be potentially fatal without your knowledge. And your child who maybe just

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be stressed out from like a divorce that the parents are going through or God forbid, a childhood sexual trauma or bullying in school and manifest this in the more sort of, oh, it's like the hip thing to be, which is trans without you knowing, gets a firm, gets a breast binder, gets a prescription to go to this other clinic. And sometimes it can be like a Planned Parenthood.

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They're very like pro- That's right. It could be right. Sending kids down this lane. And that clinic gives them a prescription for puberty blockers into cross-sex hormones, which sterilizes a child.

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That's such a good point. That's exactly right. So that's incredible and very disturbing. But what's happening now? Because there are reportedly 25 health clinics already in Maine schools. Right. But the nonprofit that would run this new one says, oh, no, we have no plans to provide hormone treatments.

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But do we think that they're backing off of it at all? Because they delayed the vote on this health clinic in December, and now it's not officially on the agenda for the meeting they're having this week. So do you feel like you've already won this or it's still alive?

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Right. And I should point out to the viewers, you're not in Maine, you're in Indiana, but you're keeping an eye. You've been, this is one of the reasons why I love your Twitter account, but X, you've been paying attention to what's happening in schools across the nation.

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By the way, if anybody wants your help or to alert you to something that they'd love your help with, what, how can they contact you?

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Okay. Now you FOIA'd the school board, as I understand it, and you got some disturbing text messages about yourself and your efforts to stand up for parents and for children. What happened?

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Oh, my God. So we we reached out to him for comment on that email and he did not respond to us. He does not understand courage. That's quite clear. Although behind closed doors, he's super tough, Alvin. He's going to get you are. They always are.

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Can you talk a little bit about that? Because you actually are courageous and this is a battle that must be fought and you've been fighting it since before it was in vogue and acceptable to be fighting it. But I understand there's, you know, your great grandfather came to America from Mao's China. So how has that affected your willingness to get on these issues?

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The public largely responding very favorably to the speech and not just Republicans. But the story was very different on the other side of the aisle with Democratic lawmakers refusing to clap or stand multiple times throughout the night for all sorts of very moving, personal, beautiful moments. that typically would see bipartisan support.

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It's incredible. Thank you so much for being so involved in this fight and for calling our attention to it as well. We'll stay on it and we'll be keeping an eye on that main school board meeting tomorrow just to see if they do try to sneak this in and have you back on if they do. Alvin, thank you.

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Wow, these guys. I mean, can you imagine? Your kid goes to school, gets a shot in the arm that could potentially cause a heart infection, which you wouldn't even know to be checking for because they'd vaccinated him without your consent, and then secretly give him tucking apparatus to start messing with his genitals so he can look and feel more like a girl, then snap him with...

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Puberty blockers into cross sex hormones, which sterilize a child, not to mention deprive him of any hope of sexual pleasure throughout his life. And you know nothing. And the school board will defend this. And so will the main governor. I mean, this this how radical the left has become. This is it's infuriating. And it's another reason why President Trump won and does have the mandate.

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He says he does. Wow. All right. We will be back tomorrow. We're taking your thoughts on all of this. Please email me, Megan, at megankelly.com. And then we're back tomorrow. Boy, do we have a treat for you. I'm really looking forward to this. The whole show with comedian Andrew Schultz. The greatest. The funniest. He's totally irreverent. Buckle up. We'll see you then.

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Just show up. looking normal and give this mattering of applause on the things that are obviously going to be supported by the people watching at home. And sit there politely, not doing anything on the things you disagree with. It's very easy. It's not hard not to make yourself look like an absolute moron.

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I really do wonder, like, what man, truly what man, Rich, would say, oh, I'll take one of the little signs. Could I have one of those little popsicle sticks so I can hold up false? Like, it's just so undignified and unmanly. There's something so... teenage girl about it, like snaps, it's the opposite of snaps. I'm embarrassed for them.

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And then with the pink outfits and then with the white outfits and then some with the t-shirts, look, look at that. There are men there. I don't know why I see a distinction between the men and the women doing this, but there's something kind of feminine about it. I just feel like it's so emasculating.

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I don't know what it is. I think it's definitely not more Trump winning. That seems to aggravate it greatly. Trump knew this was coming, that they weren't going to root for him, even on the gimmies. It's like, I don't understand why. I guess they really have no meaningful leader. But like, why didn't some leaders sit down with him beforehand and say, just don't project asshole.

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OK, that's what we want to avoid. We want to be like the strong, sober, but likable ones in the room. They forget about likability, how important it is. So we'll get to the congressman standing up and harassing him. The weirdness with the signs and the paddles and the pink outfits, whatever. But Trump set them up.

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for today's narrative in a way by calling out the fact that he knew they wouldn't clap or stand for anything, no matter how sympathetic the cause early on in the speech. Here's a bit of that and stuff for.

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I mean, there was one that even brought Canadian Debbie to tears, and she is a hard-hearted news producer. I mean, you don't make Canadian Debbie cry. I've rarely seen it. Even she had some tears. Then there was the one cane-waving Democratic congressman who literally got escorted out of the chamber early on in the speech. He wanted to make a spectacle of himself, and he did.

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cutaway to Nancy Pelosi there by the pool feed, which I mean, she, she looked terrible all night. There was, there was such unflattering, nasty faced screen grabs of her. Somebody grabbed one and put it out and said, caption this.

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And Michael Knowles wrote, um, I'll get you my pretty and your little doge too, which pretty much encapsulated how you felt when you looked at her like, Oh, but he was right to set them up because they then played right into his hand.

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Let's watch a little bit of that. So Trump brings this sweet young boy, 13 years old, into the chamber. And his dream is to become law enforcement. And he's survived brain cancer. And he's there with his dad. And Trump calls attention to the story. And there were this was much better. Like, I have to say, there was something about these stories last night. Tell me if you feel the same, Rich.

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They always bring somebody, you know, every president who does this brings a few people into the chamber so they can tell their personal story. And sometimes it's a heart, you know, breaker. Sometimes it's inspirational. I don't remember actually really feeling so moved repeatedly, you know, by something like, wow. And I mentioned Canadian Debbie. I'm softer than she is. She is tough.

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She's Holly Hunter in broadcast news. If she's shedding a tear, you've done something right. And we were both in tears a couple of times last night. I really felt like they did a very, very good job. in like the art of the speech, like taking us on a bit of an emotional journey, Trump with the laughs, but also those sentimental moments, which were crafted by his team, obviously, were really good.

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Mr. Dennehy continued on, quote, time for me to dig in, end quote. His resignation is the latest sign from Team Trump that internal resistance will not be tolerated. And that'll do it for your AM update. I'm Megyn Kelly. Join me back here later for the Megyn Kelly Show. We're live on SiriusXM Triumph Channel 111 at noon east, on YouTube.com slash Megyn Kelly, and on all podcast platforms.

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Call now or head on over to carsforkids.org slash mk right now to get this done. Cars, the numeral four, kids.org slash mk. Cars, the K. President Trump delivering a joint address to Congress, touting the success of his administration's wide-ranging actions since taking office less than two months ago.

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Billions of dollars in new investments, illegal border crossings plummeting to historic lows, the unleashing of American energy, and President Trump announcing President Zelensky sent him a letter saying Ukraine is ready to sign the minerals agreement.

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President Trump's joint address to Congress celebrates his ferocious pace of actions in just the first six weeks of his presidency. Republicans were raucous. Democrats, not exactly.

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It's time to end this senseless war. The defining moment of the night, Democrat opposition to just about everything. Within moments, an unprecedented outburst from Dems, booing and jeering as President Trump highlighted his electoral victory. Texas Congressman Al Green shouting and waving his cane from his chair. Speaker Mike Johnson quickly squashing the outburst.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Wednesday, March 5th, 2025, and this is your AM Update.

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In 2009, South Carolina Congressman Republican Joe Wilson was widely condemned by members of both parties for shouting, you lie, to President Obama in his first joint address. President Trump replying to the pandemonium, saying he could find a cure to a devastating disease or stop all crime, and the Democrats would not stand and cheer, to which the Democrats responded by scowling from their seats.

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Many of the Democrat congresswomen dressed in pink, an homage to the pink hats that defined the leftist women's march, formed to protest the first Trump administration. Early on in his remarks, President Trump giving a special shout out to former high school volleyball player Peyton McNabb.

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President Trump calling participation of biological males in female sports demeaning to women, saying we're not going to put up with it any longer, calling it part of his common sense revolution. On Monday, Democrats blocked the vote on the Protection of Women and Girls in Sports Act. The bill would have banned biological males from competing in female sports.

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President Trump highlighting the massive amounts of waste, fraud and abuse discovered by Elon Musk and the Doge team.

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Elon receiving massive boos from the Democrats, many of whom held tiny little signs reading, Musk steals. President Trump taking the fight right back to his detractors, calling on Congress to pass tax cuts for everyone.

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President Trump may dial back tariffs following a forceful response from the Canadians. And Attorney General Pam Bondi finally gets her hands on the rest of the Epstein files. Maybe. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update. Let's talk about that car you own, but don't use. The one you're paying to keep registered and insured that's just taking up space out front.

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Mr. Trump highlighting the first and so far only legislative achievement of his second term, the Lakin-Riley Act. The president acknowledging the presence of Allison and Lauren Phillips, the mother and sister of Lakin-Riley. Lakin was murdered by an illegal immigrant led into the country by the Biden administration.

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Lakin's mother mouthing thank you to the president. The Dems did not stand. In an emotional moment, President Trump acknowledging another guest, Alexis Nungare, mother of 12-year-old Jocelyn, who was sexually assaulted and murdered by two illegal immigrants, her body left in a creek.

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Stephen Miller posting on X, they, meaning Democrats, didn't stand for Jocelyn. It was a theme we saw throughout the night. They sat even when a 13-year-old boy with cancer was honored. President Trump turning to foreign policy, sending a message to Greenland.

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Mr. Trump saying Greenland is vital to U.S. national security interests. Prior to the speech, the president's staff teased many surprises. One big one, the announcement of the capture of the terrorist who planned the 2021 Abbey Gate suicide bombing in Afghanistan.

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The Dems remained seated. Thirteen service members were killed and dozens horrifically wounded in the explosion amid the chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan. Last week, the president instructed the Secretary of Defense to investigate the withdrawal and deliver accountability to the generals responsible for botching it.

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President Trump winding down his speech with a bold vision for America, promising the freest and most dominant civilization on the face of the earth with the highest quality of life.

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Coming up, Canada threatens to escalate measures in the tariff wars and the latest on the Epstein files in just a moment. Four years of crushing interest rates, runaway inflation, and reckless government spending, and who is paying the price? You are. You might have bills stacking up. You might have debt collectors on your back.

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Before you make another payment, consider a visit to donewithdebt.com or call 1-888-322-1054 right now. Speak with one of their debt relief strategists for free. Go to donewithdebt.com. That's donewithdebt.com. President Trump doubling down on his commitments to those tariffs on Canada and Mexico.

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Though Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick told Fox Business earlier in the day, President Trump may be willing to compromise on a lower rate.

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This comes after the Canadians' forceful response to the 25% tariffs that went into effect on Tuesday. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, who has resigned as head of his party and will be replaced when Canada holds an election, appealing to U.S. citizens yesterday morning.

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Mr. Trudeau warning the U.S. that Canada is prepared to up the ante.

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Ontario Premier Doug Ford telling NBC News he's willing to cut off American electricity.

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Mr. Ford promising to direct energy producers to shut down energy exports to the U.S. entirely if Mr. Trump goes forward with his planned reciprocal tariffs on April 2nd. That's an additional set of tariffs on top of the 25% that went into effect yesterday.

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In the meantime, Mr. Ford says Ontario is slapping a 25% electricity export tax, President Trump justifying the tariffs on the basis of a national emergency, he says, related to fentanyl. On Monday, he told reporters Canada would have to start building their cars in the United States.

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The Trump administration has yet to name any specific steps Canada or Mexico could take to have these tariffs removed. Canada's economy is heavily dependent on the U.S. The Times reports three-quarters of all Canadian exports are destined for the United States, and trade makes up one-fifth of their GDP. Simply put, the tariffs will plunge Canada into a recession.

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Canada's Chamber of Commerce predicts their GDP will plunge by a whopping 2.6%. Attorney General Cam Bondi announcing her office has secured the rest of the Epstein files. The original release of the Epstein files last Thursday, a total flop containing just 200 pages of already available information.

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A source revealing to the attorney general that the rest of the Epstein files were hidden away at the FBI's New York field office located in the jurisdiction of the Southern District of New York. A.G. Bondi telling Fox News her office received a truckload of documents, supposedly the remainder.

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A.G. Bondi and FBI Director Kash Patel have committed to full transparency, though some information, they say, will have to be redacted.

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Grand jury information, too, will be redacted. On Monday, the head of the FBI's New York division, James Dennehy, was forced to resign from his post. Mr. Dennehy writing in a letter to his staffers, quote, Last Friday, I was informed that I needed to put my retirement papers in today, which I just did. I was not given a reason for this decision.

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In addition to overseeing the office withholding the Epstein files from the DOJ, Mr. Dennehy made headlines in January thanks to an email he sent to staffers following the DOJ's request for a list of every agent who worked on the January 6th cases. Mr. Dennehy telling his staffers, and others are being targeted because they did their jobs in accordance with the law and FBI policy.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. It's our 1,000th episode today, which is a hard word to say. 1,000th episode today, thanks to all of you. We made it here. I've just found out, here's Doug Brout, my husband is with me, and brought over some champagne.

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That's fine if I feel passionately about it. But I love hearing what you guys have to say. I love when we disagree. I love when you three disagree. I Like all of that is the special sauce, I think, that goes into good shows. And it's not like we never have a miss. Occasionally we'll have a guest who is like, all right, that's a one and done. But you guys, 30 times speaks for itself.

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I sense it. I don't even know how to feel about this. I'm like, what? We're buying Gaza? Are we buying it or just taking it over? And I was saying to my team, I'm like, it feels a little like... You know, your best friend has pancreatic cancer and you feel really sorry for her, but instead of just feeling sorry for her, you somehow transfer the pancreas to your body.

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Now you've got pancreatic... I'm not sure I wanted to help quite this much. I'm not sure I wanted to help quite this much. But I am open-minded to what Trump is saying. Let's play some sound just so people can hear from the president himself. Hold on. Sotless dropped off by... Doug Brunt, the Brunt Bureau here. OK, here it is in SOT2 where he's he's proposing this, by the way, Netanyahu's here.

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Hey, thank you. And thanks to all of you, my team and our audience for making this happen. Hold on, I get a drink or it's bad luck.

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He had a meeting with Trump and they had a joint presser last night and Trump surprised everybody. Even his senior staff reportedly did not know this was coming. I'm sure a couple of them did, but most of them did not. And there had been no like major announcement coming tonight. So everybody was like, what did he just say? And he did say something very significant. And he said it repeatedly.

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So the proposal appears to be that we are going to... All right, and it hasn't been, like, sketched out exactly, but it appears to be that we... would not, though he gave an answer that was ambiguous, send troops necessarily over there, but that we are going to take over Gaza at least temporarily. We're going to level what's left of the buildings.

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We're going to excavate the ground to get rid of the some 30,000 bombs that they say are still there planted and awaiting explosion or were on reserve for Hamas. that during that time, we are going to strongly encourage Egypt and Jordan to take the Palestinians that they have steadfastly resisted for years, and especially since 10-7. They don't want them.

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They're like, this is the troublemaking group. And we don't want them moving into Egypt or Jordan. But he says they will take them. Trump actually said, they say they won't take them. I say they will. And that we're then going to develop Gaza into what Trump says will be like a new Riviera. And we're not going to pay for it.

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No, I didn't know that we were going to do this. Otherwise I would have shot the team some elements. Maybe we'll drop them in later. But you remember when we launched this podcast, we were in New York and we were in the kids' playroom in a little corner with literally a desk Abby got off of either Wayfair or from Ikea. It was like a hundred dollars. I think she assembled it.

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We're going to somehow get the Saudis, UAE, and I don't know who's the third to pay for it. And that then there's going to be beautiful buildings where everyone can go and work and visit like a tourist. But who's in charge at that point? He doesn't seem to be saying we'll own it forever, though he might be. Again, it's all very unclear today with me because it was unclear last night with Trump.

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But so far, I'm hearing very positive reaction from Alan Dershowitz, who's been a major advocate for Israel since the start. Ben Shapiro tweeted something out very, very positive. He tweeted out in part, undoubtedly the most extraordinary and unexpected element of Trump's first term was his remaking of the Middle East with the Abraham Accords.

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He achieved that Nobel Prize-worthy accomplishment by thinking outside the box. recognizing hard realities and ignoring the conventional idiocy of the blob. Here he goes again with Gaza. This vision is absolutely transformative. And then you have Rand Paul. with the following. The pursuit for peace should be that of the Israelis and the Palestinians. I thought we voted for America first.

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We have no business contemplating yet another occupation to doom our treasure and spill our soldiers' blood. And the Palestinians don't seem too keen on it, you know, 18 hours in either. So what do you guys make of it?

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Here's what we have so far in terms of world leader reaction, at least from that region of the world. Hamas. according to the New York Times, immediately rejected mass relocation. A senior Hamas official said that this is a recipe for creating chaos and tension. What's needed is the end of the occupation and the aggression against our people.

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Then Egypt, their foreign minister spoke to the prime minister and the foreign minister of the Palestinian Authority about removing debris from Gaza, expediting humanitarian aid and starting recovery programs without the Palestinians leaving. So not going there.

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Jordan's King Abdullah II has also strongly opposed the plan, saying that peace can only be achieved through a two-state solution, not through forced relocation. Okay, there's not going to be a two-state solution. So fine, we can continue pretending that that's on the table, but it's not. Then there's Turkey.

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It's even wrong to open that discussion, to open that to discussion, says the foreign minister. Turkey's against any initiative that would exclude the Gazan people. And the Saudis, their foreign minister said in a, quote, sharply worded reaction that it is backing an independent Palestinian state and that backing is a firm, steadfast and unwavering position.

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So, I mean, no one's talking about a Palestinian state in this Trump plan. It's like they're going to disperse to Egypt and Jordan, the ones who have not wanted them all along. I mean, I got to be honest with you guys. I don't... How are they living in Palestine right now? How's anybody living in Gaza? It's... It's rubble.

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That was it. It was, there were just four of us and we hoped it would work out, but who knew?

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You're very sweet. I would love to take all the credit, but the truth is my team is totally... They're not underrated because no one's underrating them, but they're just not, they don't receive enough affection and love. That's one negative of the way things are set up, right? Like you guys know me, you see me, you hear me, but you need to know the team.

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And so far as Gaza... I mean, it still exists. They've already been kicked out. It's like Israel did that. Gaza is destroyed. That is done. I don't think, now if we go beyond Gaza, if we're talking about all of Palestine and the West Bank, yeah, you got to kick people out, but Gaza's done.

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Unless somebody goes in there and rebuilds it, there is no long-term sustaining of that area for these Palestinians. So they're going to have to go somewhere or do something. And he's basically saying, we're not going to fund the rebuilding while you're sitting there. Get out, we'll level it, we'll clean it up, but for a price.

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We're going to need to rebuild it and we may have some stake in it on an ongoing basis. Again, that piece of it is unclear.

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To say that he's moving them out is not true because I think, really, Israel did that.

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It's bold. You have to give him points for a bold plan that both Ben and Alan Dershowitz, like two of our most prominent Jewish Americans, said, I never even envisioned something like this. And Alan Dershowitz is going off. Like for 40 plus years, 50 years, I've been at the forefront of dealing with every single Israeli leader and American president in trying to forge a better situation for Israel.

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never even crossed my mind that this would be a potential possibility and sounded excited about the fact that this very outside-the-box thinker, President Trump, threw something new into the mix that everybody in the world was like, huh? What? I think it needs some time to be digested, to be kicked around, to be criticized.

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Like nobody ever comes up to them in a restaurant and says, oh my God, I love the show so much. It's really made a difference in my life. And they're fine. They're private people that they probably wouldn't love that anyway. But I do just want to say like the work of my producers, my booker, our tech staff is really what makes the show sing. And I can be a total pain in the ass behind the scenes.

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That's all fair too, but not to be knee-jerk dismissed because the one thing we know, Camille, is that nothing has worked so far.

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He took what he got in exchange for a 30-day extension on his tariffs. So I think Trump would say the deal's not done. Those are the first initial concessions. And within 30 days, we should be negotiating on all the things I really want. So we'll see.

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So what you're saying, Matt Welsh, what you're saying is it's like when we're at the dinner table and I can't get my three kids to agree on who's going to do the cleanup. And I, in an exasperation, just say, fine, I'll do it. And my kids, being sweet kids, know that I worked all day and that if I cooked a meal, I'm especially bitter. And so are they, because they had to eat it. No, no, no.

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Exactly right. We got it. We got it. It's not going to get better if I then have to do the cleanup of the meal. And then at that point, they're all like, all right, we'll do it. We'll work it out. We'll work it out. The three of us will do it together or one of us will do it. What you're saying is that Trump is the me in that situation being like, fine, nobody else is going to solve it.

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I'll solve it. Hoping that the three other people at the table stand up to say, you know what? We'll handle it.

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Like when things go wrong, I'm not an easy taskmaster. You know, I really have a very high bar for quality on the show because I want you guys to experience that. So my team, Handles that. They handle those moments. And we've all been together for a year. I mean, that's why everybody stays.

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Is it an ownership interest in the the Gaza Riviera? Because that seemed Trump is saying we're not going to pay for this.

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Gaziera, the Gaziera. I'd be a little scared to stay in a hotel in the Gaziera. I don't know.

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Here's let me give you a little Trump sound because he filled in a few of these blanks. I mean, again, we're still unclear and he was still ambiguous. But you should hear directly from the president on first the question of U.S. troops. So five.

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Then Politico, following up, spoke to an unnamed Trump official who they report did not accept the premise that Trump's plan would require American troops in Gaza. Expect plenty more pushback on that assumption from the White House today. This official argued that it's in the interest of other Arab players like ISIS.

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Saudi Arabia to find a solution to the conflict and that Trump throwing his ideas out there might inspire others to counter, as the man himself says, we'll see. So that's kind of my dinner party, you know, possibility, the dinner party.

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Let's just go with the what if for a moment here. Trump is a builder. This actually is an area, cleaning out a wasteland, a construction site, removing destroyed buildings, and putting up enormous, lovely new ones. That is something he actually has some expertise in. And

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What if he actually could, with money from the Saudis and the Jordanians and the Egyptians and the UAE and maybe some American money, build what he says could be there? Here is Saat 3.

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Stand by, let me play one follow-up where he was asked if this, are we going there permanently? Like we're never leaving Gaza now? And here's what he said, it's at six.

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Canadian Debbie and I have been together since 2007, since I started my very first show. It's amazing. At Fox News. And then Abby came in 2009. Wow. And bit by bit, we've been accumulating staff that, to which I am extremely loyal. And I think they're loyal to us too, because they believe in the mission.

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Sorry, one more, you guys. Keep those in mind, right? So there's Trump saying could be like the Riviera, the Riviera of the Middle East, then saying, I do see a long-term ownership position, ownership for the United States. And then here is the Jared Kushner sound in part that you guys just referred to, his son-in-law.

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It's like, look, there's so many shows you can go to where it's, you know, it's kind of like hack partisan kisses, right? Like sweet nothings. But I think the audience of the show genuinely wants facts. They want opinion too, but they don't want to be misled.

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Well, because here's the problem. Like, in part, we're treating Hamas like they're rational humans who we can just strike a deal with. And they're absolutely barbaric. I mean, what they did to Israel on 10-7 is animalistic in its... viciousness and they don't value human life.

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Their charter makes that clear that the way they behave makes that clear that all those UN videos of, um, or it wasn't the UN. I can't remember who put it together, but of the Palestinian children talking about how they can't wait to die for the cause just so they can martyr themselves. Um, and it, it, kill Israelis.

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And even with the Hamas fighters calling their parents for praise in the middle of murdering, I murdered four Jews. Yeah. Kids, parents. That's not someone we can negotiate with. That's not someone who's going to be lured into peacefulness by a big, beautiful building that he might be able to swing by the spa on Sunday at Camille. I don't like, I don't, I'm open.

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I have no solutions for the Middle East. None. So I'm as open-minded to this one as another, but I do think this is, this fundamental truth about the people who are in Hamas must be dealt with in making our decision.

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Let's say he gets it built. Let's say he makes Gaziera as populated and with the skyscraper hotels as Lower Manhattan. Who would stay in one of those? Like, yeah, sustaining it over time. Hamas fighter to go in there with the bomb laden backpack. And that's what's going to start happening. Right. It's like you cannot trust these people like you cannot. They are not a peaceful people.

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I love it. It's sort of my unofficial tagline now on the show. That's great. But anyway, but it also requires a supportive family that doesn't mind when at the last second you got to jet off someplace and cover something big and, you know, God knows how many triple drops you've done with the kids because...

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They do not desire to live in peace. What they really want to do is kill Jews. That's really what they get off on. And and Americans, too. I think they'd be thrilled to kill Americans as Jewish supporters, Israeli supporters, if we stay in Ghazira.

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Right. We don't want their bus attacks coming over here. But I also do feel like, well, I don't have a better solution. And I do think knowing Trump's constant negotiation tactics, there's a high likelihood this could just be trying to spur someone else into action. Like, sure, I take your point that maybe these Middle East folks want to see the United States do this because it's to our peril.

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But maybe, you know, Trump, I think we can all agree, knows more than we know about what's actually happening behind the scenes in these countries. And I'll bet you he does have a game plan.

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One thing that I think it's worth- Can we talk about the thread that we were just touching on? Because I raised this with Marco Rubio last week, saying it's a really tough time to be Secretary of State as a Republican, given what's happening within the Republican Party, within MAGA, on the issue of foreign policy.

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We use Tucker because he's one of, if not the leader of this strain within MAGA, but there are millions and millions of Americans who feel like Tucker does. which is we should be truly putting America first and withdrawing from these international conflicts and that this is Israel's problem, not ours. Why should we be spending all this money?

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And forgive me for trying to paraphrase Tucker's more complex view, but this is a thumbnail sketch, that this is Israel's problem, that they should be prioritizing it and that the Middle East should be working on this. But we have our own problems. It's the number one cause of death now, the fentanyl poisoning of younger Americans.

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Why isn't the money that we're about to spend or the efforts that we're about to spend going toward us? But as you know, within the Republican Party, there's a much more neocony strain and even just maybe not even neocon, but more bellicose, more hawkish that is very pro-Israel. And Marco Rubio, I would say, I don't think he was totally neoconny. I think he's more of like a hawk.

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Okay, neoconny and then kind of maybe downgraded to hawky. And then kind of flirting with the more isolationist. So I feel like Trump is telling us that he's more with the Marco Rubios of the world, right? Like this is pretty aggressive. He bombed ISIS in Somalia. He says, I think I think we might be getting ready to take Greenland by force, maybe Panama, too.

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I don't I'm laughing because I don't actually think he'll do that, but he he's not ruled it out. So I think we're kind of seeing the boss message on where he actually stands on these issues.

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The Monroe Doctrine is too big a concept to introduce with just four seconds before the break. Put a pin in that, pick it up on the opposite side of this quick word. Thank you, guys. They stay with us the whole show. There is a real and growing threat to your home and your equity, and it's called title fraud. Here's how it works.

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This is all news to me because I came over to do the show and... Did not know that Doug Brunt was going to be here or that anything was. Do you have something you want to break here, honey, about our 1000?

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It's been so cool. I have to say one great thing that's come from it. We don't push our politics on our kids. We talk about politics all the time in our house, but. We've told them many times they can be whatever they want to be. We certainly hope they don't turn into far-left libs, but... We'll love them if they do. And our eldest is just kicking around.

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We are celebrating here at the MK Show our 1,000th episode as a podcast. It's not our 1,000th episode as a YouTube show, though. It took us a year before we added a camera to our offering and went live on YouTube. And I think we're on episode 850 or so on YouTube. And while we're on the subject of YouTube, we just got our numbers in for January. And it's just amazing. It's amazing.

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God bless you, YouTube followers, because you're really making this show sing over there. In the month of January, I'll give you a feel. CBS News had 65 million views on their YouTube channel. They have 6.5 million subscribers. We have 3.3 million subscribers on YouTube, all right? So they have double what we have. So they had 65 million views.

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Um, NBC news on their YouTube channel has 11 million subscribers and they had 132 million views, right? So 132 million and 65 million, we have 3.3 million and we had 143 million views on just for the MK show just in January. Like I'm crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy. Right. With our, our 3.3 gave us 143 million NBC's 11 million gave them 132 million. CNN, they had 151 million.

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So just a little bit above us and they have 17.5 million, 17.5 million. And they only had a touch more than we did. That's all of CNN, every single program over there versus just the MK show. So I just, it's amazing the power of this kind of an audience that is like, Fuck off corporate media.

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And the reason people love the show so much is because we talk about things like the Monroe Doctrine. That's really what people want. Bring them in. So you've got 30 seconds to pivot off of that point onto one we understand.

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They just formed a conservative or a Republican club at his high school. So it's like, it's good he's had exposure to all these events. He's coming around naturally to what we think are sane political views, at least in 2025 America.

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Well done. I do want to follow up on a point. Was it you, Camille? Somebody was saying that Trump, you know, he says the thing that nobody else will say. One of you guys said it. And of course, 100%. And on brand yesterday, he took questions from the journalists in the audience, which included this woman from

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Here's another dose of honesty. This one more substantive and arguably more important. A message about what could happen, what would happen if, God forbid, Iran actually succeeded in assassinating him. Listen to Sat9.

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Hell no. That is a neo. That would truly be a neocon, Don. And he there's no way Trump would. I just zero. I bet the farm Trump doesn't do that.

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I hear you, but he's too smart and he knows the Republican Party too well. He knows that there is zero appetite for that. The truth social he just sent out is, I want Iran to be a great and successful country, but one that cannot have a nuclear weapon. Reports that the U.S., working in conjunction with Israel, is going to blow Iran into smithereens, end quote, are greatly exaggerated, in all caps.

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I would much prefer a verified nuclear peace agreement, which will let Iran peacefully grow. And prosper. We should start working on it immediately and have a big Middle East celebration when it is signed and completed. God bless the Middle East. I have to say, he makes it sound so great. You know, you're like, yes, let's just all be friends and let's have a big Middle East celebration.

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One one follow up on his comment about how Joe Biden didn't issue this warning to Iran because it was perhaps a lack of intelligence. Did you hear that CAA? Yes. One of the biggest agencies in America. This is the competitor to William Morris Endeavor just signed Joe Biden. Honestly, all I could say was, what are they going to use?

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Good luck with that. Okay, let's see. There's so much more to get to. I'm trying to get my arms around where to go next. Let's talk about this USAID thing because that one's getting really interesting. So I think most Americans had never even heard of this organization or didn't, you know, if they've heard of it, they didn't know what it does.

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And I still am not totally up to speed on what it does, but it appears to be a group that is overwhelmingly hard left in terms of its employees and the people we staff it with and the people that then create these NGOs to which this USAID then gives its money. Yeah. funneling to various causes that are very woke in many cases, like large LGBTQ and that kind of promotional stuff.

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The defenders say that's not, not all what it appears to be that some of those so-called woke projects in these dicey third world countries are actually fronts for groups that will be democracy checks that will quietly organize, uh, you know, democratic opposition to tyrants, that kind of thing.

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So it could be just, you know, blatant manipulation of foreign governments under the auspices of Black Lives Matter. You know, I don't know the truth. But what I do know is Elon, is getting all sorts of bad press this week because Doge is kicking the tires first of this organization. Like they're gonna kick a lot of tires of a lot of organizations, but they started with this one.

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And his conclusion was, it wasn't just a matter of getting the bad worm out of the bad apple. It's the entire thing is worms. There's no apple. There's no, absolutely no flesh of the fruit. And the whole thing needs to go. It's been shut down now. Everybody's been told you're on temporary leave, paid leave. And only the essential workers will be allowed back into the building.

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And we'll tell you by Thursday at three, I think, whether you are an essential worker at USAID. And, you know, when you look at like who's really objecting to this, it's all people we don't like. Like Ilhan Omar is really upset about it. So like I'm already in favor of it. And then I read today that Politico somehow managed to get $8.1 million of USAID dollars. How'd that happen?

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We heard the Megyn Kelly show hasn't taken one red cent from the federal government. None's been offered and none's been taken. But what is that about? And if that's true, how are they reporting objectively on any of this? Yeah. Every news piece you hear about who gets money from this group is disturbing. We had the press secretary out there the other day giving a list that was deeply disturbing.

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And then what we had today or yesterday was Democrats outside of the Treasury Department protesting Elon because they're very ticked off about this and about him. And I just think they see an opportunity because Trump's so popular right now. to kick the right-hand man as opposed to the main man. But take a listen to what happened outside of state in SOT 22.

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Let me clarify my political reporting. Steve Krakauer, our EP, tells me that those $8.1 million are apparently employees are agencies buying some very expensive subscription to Politico. It's not that Politico got grants or other federal funding. OK, so I don't totally understand the clarification.

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But I think I think they have a very good argument that they can all but defund it. There is an argument that they cannot. But having looked at both arguments, I'm convinced they can all but defund it. And I also think I don't care that they've made commitments to do these wacky things. They should stop.

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We're going to break our commitments because they were bad commitments that were being done in silent to left wing groups that were not actually supported. Just listen here. Here's a double shot reaction from the White House press secretary listing some of the things we were paying for and then Trump's description.

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It's a good question. And honestly, like I look at this and I think it's so bad. It's so egregious. Like we there should be an investigation on into the people who allowed these expenses to begin with. And we absolutely need to pump the brakes right now that we've discovered it. That's 100 percent the right thing to do.

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and to shut the people out of the building who were responsible for it and who weren't waving flags about it. And what they've said is that they'd really like to fold it into the State Department. Now, that may take an act of Congress because it is an independent agency created by Congress. But right now, Marco Rubio says he's been appointed the acting director, so that's good.

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And they're going to figure out exactly what the expenditures are and which are worthy and which are not. Libs of TikTok had a great tweet, too, outlining some more of them. $2 million for Moroccan pottery classes, $2 million promoting tourism to Lebanon, $20 million for a Sesame Street show in Iraq. Now, I love Sesame Street, but what... Sending Ukrainians to Paris Fashion Week? What?

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Goes on from there, some of the ones. $2 million for sex changes in Guatemala. Okay, I don't want to pay for those here in America, and I really don't want to pay for them in Guatemala. So... Good for Elon. But to me, there's more going on here. I think we'll get USAID straightened out. But there is an onslaught of attacks against Elon Musk right now.

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And it seems like the Democrats smell blood in the water. They're like, this is our chance for our first win. We're going to take out the unelected guy. who's running around, they're saying that he's trying to access classified files or files he's not allowed to see at places like USAID.

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Trump came out yesterday and said he hasn't seen, he's not allowed to see anything that we don't permit him to see. So calm down. And then do we have the Harry Enten clip? Because he was on CNN showing the disapproval of Elon. We'll have it in a second. But here's AOC first going off about him.

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The man is literally rescuing astronauts stuck on the International Space Station with his rockets right now. He's unintelligent, she says. He's literally working to solve paralysis with his Neuralink chip that goes in your brain and makes you control a computer with your eyes. It's actually happening right now with actual human beings. What is she? She's trying to sell us that he's dumb.

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That's awesome. This is the Doug Brunt way, you know, when you listen to his podcast, which is dedicated with Doug Brunt, where he interviews all the top authors of the world. He mixes a cocktail. Now he doesn't have to mix this because it's in a champagne bottle. What kind of champagne is that?

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Why are we auditing Matt Taibbi? with our IRS and no one's auditing USAID to figure out why we're spending millions on Irish What is it? Dances? I don't, like, DEI dances.

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If we're going to take a hard look at the Matt Taibis of the world, which was started under Joe Biden, why can't we spend a sharp accountant for USAID? And the answers in both cases are because these are political decisions, 100% political decisions. By the way, Trump should drop that Matt Taibi IRS thing and he should pull the feds off of James O'Keefe too. Um, I find it very disturbing.

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I mean, this, this seems to be some government slush fund that has gotten away, gotten away with too long, too much for too long. So Elon starting here, and this is because he's received nonstop negative coverage. You watch the news. That's what you hear at the AOC soundbite. You hear him being talked about like he's some sort of an idiot who wants to sneak in on all of our private files.

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Meanwhile, it's like, what do I care? Do I really care whether Elon sees something like a I don't know if my social security number, I think he's good. I don't think we're, we're in danger of identity theft. He's, he's set. He's not going to be doing the home title theft against the four of us. Um, but okay, fine. I don't want anybody snooping around, so it's fine. And he's not.

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Um, but here you get the CNN, like they, they, they aired this on the Harry Anton thing just to make sure we all know people don't like him.

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Well, they just spent two weeks telling us he did a Nazi salute. Right. And he's like, yeah, that's pro Hitler. That one might hurt. Every word that's uttered about him is negative in the news. And so it's actually kind of impressive that he's only minus 11. The guy who runs around firing everybody doesn't tend to be popular. You remember that movie up in the air? Is that what it was called?

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Yeah, I'm a fan of his. Well, by the way, this just in. Caroline Levitt, White House press secretary. I was made aware of the funding from USAID to media outlets. This just happened, including Politico. who I know has a seat in this room, I can confirm that the more than 8 million taxpayer dollars that have gone to essentially subsidizing subscriptions to Politico will no longer be happening.

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The Doge team is working on canceling those payments. Right on, Caroline. This is wonderful. Who would be, other than Politico, opposed to this kind of testing of what use is being made of our federal dollars.

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All right, I'm going to take a quick break, and then we're going to come back, and then we're going to talk about the executive order coming out from Team Trump today, and it is the thing that delivered the election to him. More with the fifth column coming up.

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Great ad by our friend Jennifer Say and her XXXY athletic wear brand. Love the clothing line and love what they stand for. They have the guts and the balls. The people over at Nike do not. And that message is right on. It's very timely and they're thrilled, I'm sure, today because the Trump EO that is expected to happen at 3 p.m. today is entitled Keeping Men Out of Women's Sports.

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It will ban transgender girls, meaning biological boys and women, from participating in female sports events in schools and colleges. It will keep boys and men out of girls' and women's sports in schools and colleges. The Wall Street Journal reporting—we haven't seen it yet—

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that it's not immediately clear exactly what the contents of the order will entail, but one option is for President Trump to direct the Education Department to interpret federal Title IX rules as barring the participation of boys, pretending to be girls, in female sports categories. That's my phraseology. Of course, the Wall Street Journal was more PC-ish.

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In the face of such an order likely affecting all but a handful of the National Collegiate Athletic Association's 1,100 member schools, the NCAA has indicated that it will move rapidly to change its rules, depending on what Trump issues today. The president of the NCAA saying, we're a national governing body and we follow federal law.

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Clarity on this issue at the federal level would be very helpful. So... this is it guys. I mean, Trump already issued an EO saying you cannot change genders. That's not a thing. Men are men, women are women. And that's the federal government's policy. Get pronouns out of emails, get any teaching that you can transition your sex out of all federal agencies.

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And we're not paying for any procedures through, you know, our, our Medicare, um, And so on. He's trying to use the tools he can to remove the public and the taxpayers from participating in this ideology. And this is a huge, huge issue on which he has overwhelming support from a majority of both parties, both parties, very high numbers against men posing as women participating in girls sports.

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Pete Buttigieg. Pete Buttigieg removed his pronouns from his Twitter bio. Bend the knee, sir. Bend it. Hashtag, you have been part of the problem. I just want to tell you this. In that ad we played from Jennifer Saye, Um, Riley Gaines was featured along with Riley's younger sister, who I think is also a competitive athlete. And they talked about Sia. Oh, Sia's a bigot. Sia this, Sia that.

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It's Sia Lilly, who's featured a university of Nevada volleyball captain who spoke out against having to compete against a trans athlete on the San Jose state team. That's a team whose captain, um, has come on this show to speak out about being forced to play next to a man pretending to be a woman being forced to share a locker room and a room on the road, uh,

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with a man pretending to be a woman without the school even disclosing to her that the person they were rooming her with was actually a man. And it's, you know, like these people featured in there have put real skin in the game and gotten hurt. I mean, I think Riley Gaines, she's actually been attacked. We know that. We saw that happen to her.

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when she was trying to speak out about this on college campuses after the fact. She was forced to disrobe and get naked in front of Leah Thomas, walking around fully intact male, while these poor girls who were just trying to swim in the championship at the NCAA were trying to hide their naked bodies from this guy. It's sick. So good luck to those who do want to protest this.

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But here is how the Washington Post has reacted. This order set to ricochet through school districts and college campuses across the country. So they are acknowledging that this will have the full effect of law. And then they quite quote the Human Rights Campaign, a far left organization that used to just stand for gay rights and equality that most people could get behind.

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And it's gone full trans now, totally abandoned the gay mission. They're totally all about the T and not the LGB. While this order will target transgender youth specifically, blanket bans have negative impacts on all girls. See, all girls are going to suffer now as a result of us keeping boys out of their sports.

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We cover this subject a lot, but I will say a quick clarification that human rights campaign quote is just from HRC. It wasn't in the Washington Post. But in related news, you guys, Trump signed the EO. Was it yesterday saying we're not. Any hospital that takes federal funds is not doing gender transition procedures on minors, not puberty blockers, not cross-sex hormones, not surgeries.

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By Travis Chapman. Travis, thank you. Steve, how did you know? I mean, it's exactly, this is going to go in our bedroom and we're going to think about Lauren. No, we're not. No, we aren't. It's like one day we get Lauren Sanchez and the next we get Beyonce, Beyonce, whatever, Sensore, Bianca. Kanye's wife. And it's kind of like two sides of the same coin in a way. Look at me. Look at my boobs.

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If you take federal funds, if you take Medicare, you take Medicaid, F off. You cannot do these procedures on minors. And that is how the federal government can put pressure on hospitals and other medical facilities to

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to stop with the constant chopping off of little boys' penises as part of some weird vanity project by, in some cases, their parents, in some cases, a bizarre and deranged medical establishment or psychologist who gets involved. And we showed yesterday the weird Cynthia Nixon protest out of NYU Langone in New York because they denied puberty blockers to two 12-year-olds.

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who'd been scheduled to get the injection in their arm. And now today we get follow-up reporting, listen to this, via The Cut. They go through, the appropriately titled, in this case, offshoot of New York Magazine, The Cut, talks about reaction from trans parents. father of a 15-year-old, stockpiled a year's worth of meds for his child after the election.

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There's nothing more important in her life, and he has a boy, than having this care. We've known she was transgender since she was two and a half. The mood in our home has been brutal since the election. We're an all queer family. I'm a trans person myself, he adds. I'm very angry with a lot of despair. This is abuse. This sick person is abusing his two and a half year old.

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And President Trump just shut it down. And he won't get praised by anyone in the mainstream for it. But he may have saved that child's life, you guys.

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We had on Senator Tuberville just this week. He tried. He's introduced even with a Republican controlled Senate to get the Protection of Women and Girls in Sports Act. And John Thune won't bring it to the floor for a vote. And we don't know why. They said they only want to bring the ones that we can actually have pass have passed. They don't they don't have 60 votes to get cloture.

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We'll get them on the record. Get embarrassed them. Start building the case. You're right. We cannot live or die by executive order, but at least it's a start.

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She does that in her own peril because there's a Supreme Court case being decided right now that takes up that very argument. You know, is this some sort of a sex discrimination or an equal protection problem? Because that's what she's arguing. She's saying if you do it, you'll violate our laws that make this kind of thing discriminatory if you won't give these kids this treatment.

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And then you've got the Fed saying you can't do it. So the Supreme Court's already got that in front of them. She's going to lose. We saw the arguments. She's going to lose that argument. Bit by bit, we're making progress on this issue. And God bless President Trump for spearheading it. You guys are the greatest. Thanks for being here tomorrow. Andrew Klavan. Don't miss that.

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Yeah, there were all raunchy news people at heart. I mean, it's not a surprise, but I do want to pick up on something somebody was saying there because I Emily, it was Emily Jashinsky. Like, our move over into the podcasting lane did wind up being, I think, consequential. So did Tucker's, hugely.

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You know, you and I have talked about this privately, but having, you know, well-known names from the traditional media come over to digital media, it's not like we were first by far. I mean, Ben, Joe Rogan, obviously, so many others were blazing a path, Dave Rubin. But we were one of the earliest, like, big names from media, from the traditional media to come over.

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And I think it really did, that one-two punch of yours truly and Tucker within a relatively short window, send a message to the whole industry that there was a new game in town, that people who are free thinking and free speakers were just done being constrained. We weren't gonna go back to that other industry. and play by those same rules anymore.

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And that I really think is why his show and this show have done well, because people know it. They know when they're being spoon-fed AstroTurf messaging or corporate approved messaging or where you just have your wings clipped on every segment?

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Well, it's a blessing. We're very lucky to be able to do it. And as I always say, not only am I doing this, I'm doing it in my stretchy pants and my Uggs. That's winning. Love you, babe.

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Thank you. I appreciate it. Doug's got to get out of the studio because it's 76 degrees. It's 100 degrees in here. Not just because I have this top on today. I always keep it this hot with Abby's in the tank top usually.

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I'm good. Thank you. she's not in today cause she has a sick baby. Um, but in any event, wow. All right. So 12 minutes on the 1000th anniversary anniversary. And I could not have done any one of them without all of you. God bless you. And thank you for supporting our efforts to bring you the news in a way that we hope you find informational, but entertaining.

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And... They had gotten, we'll put it on the board, all these balloons that read 1,000, 1-0-0-0 in pink, huge, huge balloons. I'm going to tell you the truth. I forgot that today was our 1,000th episode.

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They, along with all those other guests who did that lovely video, are the ones who make the MK show. The MK show are great, great guests who, by the way, get mentioned to me all the time when people say I love the show. They'll say we love your guests. And that's a credit. to guys like this, making their 30th appearance on the show. Is that true? Four and a half years ago.

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Yeah, maybe. I launched this the end of September, I think. Of 2020, for sure. I launched it September 2020. So, you know, we had three months of the window.

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I totally agree with that. I do think the difference in any job and becoming successful or not tends to be how hard you're willing to work. Go ahead.

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Is that how you remember? Oh yeah, there's the picture. You can see Thatcher's legs behind that one piece of it. But what a nice thing to wake up to. Duggar, cheers.

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Very lucky, Megan. I feel the need now to object on behalf of his younger brother, Ken Brunt, who's about had it with all the Doug compliments.

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Well, anyways, I do sincerely, like... guys like you, guys like the cast of Ruthless, the EJs, that's what makes me want to get up in the morning and come to this desk, right? I love our conversations. I adore hearing your viewpoints. I don't think I could ever do a show where it's just me. Occasionally I'll do one where it's just like, I'm going to rail on something.

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In the afternoon, Democrat governor of Michigan, Gretchen Whitmer, appearing with the president just weeks after her last meeting with President Trump went viral. The governor then, a possible 2028 contender and vocal Trump critic, attempted to shield herself from the cameras using a binder, creating what looked like a weird game of peekaboo with the press.

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President Trump's celebrating 100 days in office with a Michigan rally.

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She's done it. Very good job. Traveling with the president, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, the secretary facing a media onslaught in recent weeks, a barrage of stories about personnel changes, alleged leaks, and subsequent investigations, each trying to paint a portrait of a Pentagon in chaos. President Trump repeatedly brushing off criticism, insisting Secretary Hegseth is the man for the job.

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The president celebrating what he calls the most successful first 100 days of any administration in history.

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It's all just kicking in. Turning to the border, Mr. Trump touting his administration's success in driving down illegal crossings.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Wednesday, April 30th, 2025, and this is your AM Update.

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also addressing the legal challenges aimed at blocking the mass deportation effort.

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On trade, the president outlining his tariff strategy and giving an update on negotiations with dozens of countries.

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Senator Josh Hawley introduces the Pelosi Act, seeking to ban members of Congress and their spouses from day trading on the job. The Canadians opt to stick with their liberal prime minister. Goodbye, Pierre Polyev. And former Vice President Kamala Harris set to deliver her first major remarks since her November loss. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update.

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On energy, Mr. Trump pointing to falling oil and gas prices after declaring an energy emergency on day one of his second term.

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And now, Mike, we just hit $1.98 in a lot of states. The president also spotlighting efforts by the Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE, to slash spending.

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We would have spent numbers like you wouldn't believe. And shouting out Elon Musk, soon stepping back from his work with the agency after backlash against Tesla.

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I really do. On education, President Trump highlighting his executive order kicking off the process of abolishing the Department of Education.

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Mr. Trump wrapping up the night of marking his early victories by setting the stage for what's next. The White House announcing a new deadline for the so-called Big Beautiful Tax Bill, originally set for Memorial Day, now expected by July 4th. On Tuesday, Treasury Secretary Scott Besson, a lead negotiator on the bill, confirming the president's tax promises will be included.

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The extension of the deadline reflecting ongoing negotiation between Republican lawmakers, largely favoring tax cuts, but divided on spending cuts. The initial framework for the budget negotiations calling for a nearly $2 trillion reduction in spending. The drastic cuts sparking many hours of contentious negotiations on the Hill. Some lawmakers pushing for cuts to Medicaid.

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the federal health insurance program for low-income Americans. Senator John Kennedy of Louisiana, for example, in February, pointing out the program has grown well beyond its original goal, leaving taxpayers with the bill for 15 million able-bodied adults who don't have children or a job. Moderate Republicans, especially those in purple districts, strongly opposing any reductions to the program.

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President Trump repeatedly assuring that the only cuts to Medicaid will be in the form of eliminating fraud and waste. Other cost-saving proposals include eliminating green energy tax credits, though those remain under discussion.

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Another proposal to close the gap now officially off the table, a new tax bracket for earners making more than $1 million per year, a proposal pushed by Trump advisor Steve Bannon in recent weeks. Secretary Besson on Monday officially confirming that option is not in consideration.

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Coming up, one senator taking aim at Nancy Pelosi and other lawmakers with incredible, indeed, unbelievable luck in the stock market. And she's back. Former Vice President Kamala Harris set to insert herself back into the national spotlight with her first major remarks since losing the November election. Thank you so much for having me.

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On Monday, Republican Senator from Missouri, Josh Hawley, reintroducing the Preventing Elected Leaders from Owning Securities and Investments Act, more broadly known as the Pelosi Act, banning members of Congress and their spouses from trading or holding individual stocks while in office. Mr. Hawley originally introducing the bill in 2023, though it failed to gain traction.

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At a 2024 hearing, the senator defending the bill as a common sense measure.

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The bill follows years of scrutiny over rapidly growing net worths of members of Congress on both sides of the aisle. Under current law, members of Congress must report any trades over $1,000 within 30 to 45 days. Few portfolios drawing more attention than that of the Pelosi family. Former Speaker Pelosi's husband, venture capitalist Paul Pelosi, making tens of millions in recent years.

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In January, the trading platform Autopilot reporting that the Pelosi portfolio outperformed nearly every major hedge fund in 2024. Imagine that. Ms. Pelosi denies sharing any information with her husband. Americans overwhelmingly favor a ban on this kind of trading, and Democrats have openly supported a ban too. House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries recently made that explicit.

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Whether House Speaker Mike Johnson or Senate Majority Leader Thune will support this bill is unclear. However, President Trump recently told Time magazine he would sign legislation banning stock trading, saying, quote, Well, I watched Nancy Pelosi get rich through insider information, and I would be OK with it. If they send that to me, I would do it.

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Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney will remain in office. The Canadian Broadcasting Corporation projecting a liberal minority government, meaning Mr. Carney's party will need to form coalitions with minority parties. to pass legislation, the victory marking a dramatic comeback for the Liberals, at one point trailing the Conservative Party by as much as 25% in the polls.

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The surge fueled in part by President Trump's tariff war and suggestions about annexing Canada, rallying support around Mr. Carney. Mr. Carney, a former banker with no prior experience in office before his March win to succeed Justin Trudeau, promising to hold firm in the face of mounting US pressure.

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Conservative Party leader, populist Pierre Palliev, not only failing to win control of parliament, but losing his own seat to a liberal challenger. Boy, did he turn out to be a disappointment. Despite that loss, the rest of the Conservative Party making significant gains, winning more seats than in any election since former Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's first victory in 2015.

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Former Vice President Kamala Harris set to deliver her first major remarks since losing to President Trump in November. Ms. Harris headlining a gala for Emerge America, a group dedicated to electing more Democrat women. Tickets to the swanky affair ranging from $50,000 to $250,000 for general admission. Virtual live stream tickets also available for $25.

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A source with knowledge of the speech offering to the LA Times, quote, she will reflect on the enduring promise of America and issue a call to action in the face of reckless economic policies and the urgent and escalating crisis facing America's institutions and global leadership. The big question on everyone's mind, which version of Kamala Harris will show up? Have you no empathy, man?

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I'm going to win. I'm going to win. But it's tight. Ms. Harris is currently weighing a run for California governor in 2026, a final decision expected later this summer. And that'll do it for your AM update. I'm Megyn Kelly. Join me back here for The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Triumph Channel 111 at noon east, on youtube.com slash Megyn Kelly, and on all podcast platforms.

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welcome to the megan kelly show live on sirius xm channel 111 every weekday at noon east hey everyone i'm megan kelly welcome to the megan kelly show coming to you from washington dc this afternoon fireworks on capitol hill today where robert f kennedy jr made the case that he is the man i mean indeed truly like the only man

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I mean, left and right, those in the press, those who are on the left-hand side of the aisle in this hearing. And, you know, They weren't even trying to hide it, basically. They just wanted to make... If half this stuff had been said outside of the U.S. Senate, they could all be sued for defamation. I mean... It was amazing. Look, I will say this.

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I would too, but I do have my eye over on Senator Cassidy on the Republican side, who is a question mark. He's a doctor. To hear him question RFKJ, you might think he was a Democrat. He seemed to be laying traps for him. It was all like... What is your plan to do this within Medicare? What is your plan to do that within Medicaid?

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Explain the difference between this obscure program every lay person has never heard of and this other. So it seemed to be like a little knowledge test for him. Meanwhile, it's like that is not why Trump nominated him. Obviously, he will have the help of career bureaucrats over at HHS who can get him up to speed on all these things. He'll learn.

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But it almost seemed like he was trying to embarrass him or maybe create the case for Republicans that Bobby's not qualified for this job. That was my. My feeling, I don't know, but we need Cassidy to be a yes or he needs to be hearing from Elon Musk's super PAC.

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You've already got Scott Pressler, who got all those Republicans registered in Pennsylvania, saying I will personally make sure Kennedy suffers electorally or anybody on the Republican side who doesn't vote for him. And these people mean business. Don Jr. 's got a whole wrangling group of money people. who know how to scare these Republican senators. They're not trying to scare the Dems.

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They're trying to scare the Republicans who are trying to stop Trump from getting his nominees. So if I were Cassidy, I would be careful.

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They didn't go hard personal on him like they did with Pete Hegseth. They could have brought it up. You know, obviously, Bobby Kennedy is a recovering heroin addict. He said he's been sober for 42 years. They could have brought up the personal behavior with women. It's not exactly stellar on the history there. They steer clear of that, which was good.

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And the other thing was a Republican senator asked him, Michael, are you you know, if we have another like pandemic type thing, are you going to go over and, you know, interfere at the CDC and the NIH and with these doctors who are coming up with... Meanwhile, I was like, I certainly hope he's going to. Yes, I hope his answer is yes.

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That's why we want him there, to make sure we don't have another drunk on his own wine. Dr. Fauci is sending out edicts. Now, if all goes well... We're not going to have that because we're going to have normal heads of these agencies. But I mean, he did say, no, I won't interfere. But like they're not getting it. They're not understanding like some Republicans.

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Senator Ron Johnson was a star today. He was the star of the whole hearing. He asked all the right questions. In fact, I'll give the audience just a flavor of him after just so many beatdowns by the left. Here's what Ron Johnson did. Stop 12.

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That was amazing, Michael. And RFK took that mantle and ran with it repeatedly when given the opportunity to say what he plans to do, which only came from folks on the right. He was absolutely brilliant with it and really sold himself.

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But they, man, are obsessed with his stance on vaccines. Obsessed. And like either unwilling or unable to see what he really feels about them. I mean, look, he's not a huge proponent. I think that's fair. But they just want to paint him as somebody who wants to ban all vaccines. And he doesn't talk about banning at all. He's very against vaccine mandates.

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Okay, we have that sound bite. I'm just trying to look through where it is, where he defends himself on these. Here it is, SOT 17, on whether he's a conspiracy theorist. Watch.

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Not yet. Exactly right. I mean, I feel like that, too, virtually all Americans, virtually all Americans can relate to that. You know, on whether this was a lab leak, you know, COVID, whether it was Russian disinformation in that Hunter Biden laptop. I mean, you know, this is something that's become so commonplace that it's a meme online, right?

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Like, wait 10 minutes and all my conspiracy theories will be proven true.

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He was on totally solid ground. Here he is describing what what he's doing there. Right. I mean, this is you kind of forget because we cover him as a news item so often. But this is Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., You know, his wife is a very successful actress out in Hollywood. He's led a very big life. He's been an extremely successful attorney.

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And much like President Trump, frankly, much like Pete Hegseth, who was making, according to the disclosures, over $2 million a year at Fox News and is now making about $250,000. they don't this is not for the money they actually want to get into public service to do some good so here he was speaking to that in 13. i don't think anybody is going to be able to do this like i have

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And in some cases, he wants more research being done before we push these vaccines on kids and has joined as a lawyer in some lawsuits against the manufacturers. Look. Here's here's one of the lowlights of the day. It was actually very funny. So I enjoyed the moment.

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It's so well said, right? He doesn't have to. We should be grateful. People, they're not even grateful for Elon Musk, these leftists. It's like the most brilliant man on the face of the planet wants to work for us for free. The only correct answer is to say, yes, thank you.

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who I mentioned at the top, Democrat from Oregon. How much has he taken from pharmaceuticals and healthcare companies? $1.2 million over the course of his career. It didn't happen just yesterday, but still, that's a lot of change in Washington. And here's a taste of how it went between him and RFKJ today, SOT6.

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But this is what we instead of talking about what he's going to do to try to get the chemicals out of our food supply, try to work with farmers and ranchers to help them avoid these toxic pesticides. in the way that they're using them now and to the measure that they're using them now.

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That was very good. And all it needed at the end was that cherry on the Sunday about his one point two million from Big Pharma, which is why he's so concerned about what Bobby Kennedy has said on vaccines.

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Instead of talking about that and exactly how he plans to get all of these ultra-processed foods out of our food supply or make them just a minor offering as opposed to the dominant thing you see on yourselves and at your school lunches, instead of spending time on that, the Democrats...

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he wasn't the only one who's been i believe is my opinion compromised by the amount of money they've taken from big pharma elizabeth warren pocahontas is big on the big pharma money uh she has let me see i want to get the number correct in um

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Yeah, she and Bernie Sanders are the two top senators who received the most pharmaceuticals or health product donations in the 2020 election cycle when they each ran for the Democratic presidential nomination. She received just under a million dollars, $822,000.

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And what did she do when she got her chance to question RFKJ, who spent his whole life suing these big pharma companies for what they've done and suing environmental, toxin producers for what they've done to our lakes and our rivers and so on. Here's how that went, Sat 16.

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that was actually i thought a very effective exchange on his part right because there is a difference i i understand what she was trying to do and it's very clear he can't be suing vaccine companies or drug companies while hhs director that's a no-brainer she wanted him to say that he wouldn't sue vaccine or drug companies for four years after why what is the incentive like that

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It doesn't make sense to me to put that prohibition on somebody after they've left the office. It's not going on the payroll of any individual plaintiff who might be suing big pharma over a vaccine injury like that. She's saying, yes, he was receiving some payments. We push people to this law firm that has a lawsuit now over Gardasil, the HPV vaccine.

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wanted to talk about baby clothes like Bernie Sanders, who decided to bring up this onesie, which you're putting on the screen now, put out by RFKJ's nonprofit Children's Health Defense Fund, which he's now had to leave because of this appointment. And Bernie Sanders was really upset that there's a baby onesie that reads unvaxxed and unafraid. Watch this.

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and showed that he is getting some sort of a kickback or some sort of a payment for that referral. And he's done an ad trying to tell people, if you've been injured, you can go to this law firm. There's nothing inappropriate about that whatsoever. He's been very outspoken about that vaccine and does not believe in it.

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And there are some people, many, many people actually, who say their child has been hurt by that vaccine. But she tried to turn it into the same thing as like an HHS secretary leaving and taking a job with Pfizer, which would create an incentive while in the job to just give Pfizer a pass for four years. It didn't work the other way around.

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You can see why they're scared. All right. Going back now to my other least favorite senator out there today, and that is Democrat Mark Warner of Virginia. He was the governor. Now he is a senator and he was scared. dripping with disdain for Bobby. I mean, you could feel the negative vibration all the way across the room where I was seated. He clearly can't stand him.

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And by the end of his cross-examination, you really kind of wanted to punch him in the face. Don't punch him in the face, not calling for violence. I'm just saying, like a surge built inside of you of like, this guy is a total asshole. He just felt really disrespectful. You could sense his hatred. He was shaking, by the way. I don't understand these senators who shake when they cross-examine.

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It's kind of what they do for a living now. But here's a flavor of Mark Warner.

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What? Like, it's just all these snide comments. I don't even really understand. There was no evidence for that. All these people with vaccines are going to be out of work. It's just every... I understand you're trying to score points, but get something substantive and write it on the substance.

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What they kept doing was just these little snide, snarky comments at the end of RFKJ, if they ever even let him answer, Michael.

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i think i will yeah i don't know will you will you work with the president to help enact his agenda aha it was it really was so ineffective it was kind of painful to have to sit there through it he in particular was quite painful um i want to ask you a little bit about link lauren's going to come on we're going to continue the discussion about what happened here but there is some news of the day that i would love to get to with you

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And in particular, I want to ask you about this executive order by Trump on so-called trans surgeries and procedures for minors. Another executive order, another thing of beauty. And this is what he did yesterday in part.

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Across the country today, medical professionals are maiming and sterilizing a group of impressionable children under the radical and false claim that adults can change a child's sex through a series of irreversible medical interventions. This dangerous trend will be a stain on our nation's history and it must end.

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Accordingly, it is the policy of the United States that it will not fund, sponsor, promote, assist, or support the so-called transition, in quotes, of a child from one sex to another, and it will rigorously enforce all laws that prohibit or limit these destructive and life-altering procedures. It calls for...

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a reversal to the absolutely disgusting reliance on and acceptance of guidance from this group WPATH, which is really, I mean, PATH should stand for pathology given the way this group tries to run the trans medical community. It calls for defunding of agencies that provide grants to medical schools and hospitals who are providing these treatments.

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So it's a threat of federal funding to your institution if you provide these procedures on minors. Calls for the Secretary of HHS to ensure treatments are not covered by federally funded programs such as Medicare and Medicaid. We don't want federal taxpayer money being used to fund for these. Also called to exclude chemical and surgical mutilation of children coverage.

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from other related programs, because it's not just Medicare and Medicaid that, you know, wind up getting used for this and goes on to say the DOJ shall convene state's attorneys general to coordinate the enforcement of laws against genital mutilation across all American states and territory. It goes on.

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We don't have enough time to go through all of it today, but this is a thing of beauty and it will literally save lives. What did you make of it?

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Yeah, I mean, I want to study the order more and talk with some of my lawyer friends about it, but he can't undo a state law that allows this stuff, like these radical leftist states by executive order. But he can withhold funding from universities and lower schools and...

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and hospitals uh and private schools some of which take some federal money um he can withhold money from the institutions that perform or promote these procedures and that is huge i mean that's a real blessing because the almighty dollar is what they actually care about and let me i mean if he actually says we're not going to pay

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Medicare funds or Medicaid funds at an institution doing this to children, everyone will stop. There'll be tons of legal challenges over all of this. Can it be done? Can something that's already been authorized in terms of funding by Congress be revoked by executive order in this kind of threat? And all of that must be fleshed out.

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But to me, what's important today is the statement, the intention, and the we're not screwing around anymore. This is a scourge that will be looked back on as an infamous, horrific dereliction of morality for decades to come. And President Trump said it stops now.

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to run the Department of Health and Human Services in 2025 America and implement President Donald Trump's Make America Healthy Again agenda. His opponents didn't get it. Even some of the Republicans didn't get it. But for the most part, they did well, the Republican senators. A couple, which I'll go over, were annoying. But the Democrats once again made fools out of themselves.

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Yeah, if the morality of it, the immorality of it doesn't make them stop, maybe the threat of losing federal funding will because that's why they do it to the point you made earlier. It costs a lot of money to have these procedures and then they have a patient for life in both the hospital and with big pharma. Two other points I just want to make. One question and one point.

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You mentioned what happened in Colombia. That's one of the things I'm going to be talking about when I sit down tomorrow. Just a programming note for with Marco Rubio, our new senator, our new secretary of state in his first long form interview. So tomorrow in his first long form interview, Secretary of State Marco Rubio sits with yours truly.

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And 100 percent, we are going to be talking about the message that was sent to Colombia in October. all other nations when it comes to Trump's FAFO policies, because he's the guy who's going to have to be the face of those with most of these nations. So looking forward to that.

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Then secondly, I can't let you go without asking you about the historic legislation that Donald Trump just signed into law, the Lakin Riley Act. Michael, this is like it's bittersweet, you know.

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This 22-year-old nursing student with her entire life in front of her was brutalized by this illegal who had no business being here, who had been caught for lesser violations in New York and then put back out on the street to hurt somebody else. They didn't care. New York City and New York State are both sanctuary cities and states. They put him back out on the street.

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He went down to Georgia and he killed this young, promising, innocent woman. And today... with support. It was bipartisan, you know, by a lot. I mean, we had some 43 Democrats who crossed over. The vast majority still didn't. But still, there was a fair amount of bipartisan support on this. President Trump signed this, his first piece of legislation into law, saying if you arrest somebody,

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Yes, obviously for a major crime, but even for a minor crime, they must be referred to the feds and that state's attorney generals, attorneys general, have the right if they are in a state that. where federal lack of enforcement of these policies leads to problems within their state, they have the right to sue the feds for not enforcing the law.

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And that's obviously for down the line when the Trump administration is gone. If there's like a Kamala Harris administration and we open the borders back up again and we lean into these sanctuary jurisdictions, it's empowering the red states and the border states to do something about it. God rest her soul. It's never something you would celebrate. It's just her death was not meaningless.

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It wasn't meaningless. Let me just play you, Michael, her mom reacting today at the signing ceremony.

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We spent actual time on a baby onesie in today's HHS confirmation hearing. Are you supportive of these onesies? America wants the truth. I mean, to be perfectly honest, I prefer the little footie onesies. Keeps their little tootsies warm when you put them in. What? This is ridiculous.

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Alison Phillips, Lakin's mom. And when she teared up, President Trump, who was standing behind her, reached out and rubbed her back. Just a small, sweet, kind gesture from a man who made sure that young woman did not die in vain. And an emotional day, Michael. And what a message from President Trump, who ran first and foremost more than anything else on the immigration issue.

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Meanwhile, guarantee you, those onesies are selling out like wildfire right now on the Children's Health Defense website. By the way, what does it even mean, unvaxxed and unafraid? It could be about the COVID vaccine, which actually they were telling us should be given to babies and young people.

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I have to say, it's like I, you know, that night before the election, Michael, I showed up in Pittsburgh to speak for Trump. And we didn't know if he was going to win or lose at that point. But I wanted to respond to the allegation that he wouldn't protect women. He had said he would be a protector of women.

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And his critics on the left rolled their eyes and made fun of him and said it was an absurdity. And one of the names I mentioned that night was Lake and Riley, that that's who I would be thinking of when I voted for Donald Trump. And I was. And to see her mom there today, who, you know, it's like, my God, your worst nightmare, but his empathy toward her.

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And I mean, really the empathy is manifested in the language of that now law that he signed in his first act. And then when it was all said and done, After she spoke and they hugged, he gave her the pen. That's like kind of emotional thing about it. He gave her the pen that he signed that bill into law with. And that's what she has now. And she has that instead of her daughter.

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It's meaningful, but it's not enough. And what really needs to happen is the Democrats who put these policies into place. And they are still in place in many cities and states now. like the one I grew up in New York, that they need to be punished. They need to be removed from power. And this can never be allowed to happen again. I'll give you the last word.

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Wow. The great Michael Knowles. Love talking to him. Up next, Link Lauren. He worked on RFKJ's presidential campaign, and he will give his perspective on what we saw at today's hearing. Don't go away. There's a real and growing threat to your home and your equity, and it's called title fraud. Here's how it works.

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We're going to do more now on the RFKJ confirmation hearing today, where I attended in person. It was eye-opening in some unexpected ways. I was very pleased to be seated next to Callie and Casey Means. We love them. They're right at the heart of the Maha movement. And one of the reasons I want him to be confirmed so badly is I have every expectation

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Why are we giving the Hep C vaccine to babies, which prevents STDs? Not a lot of babies in need of that. So... Whatever. He tried to make this into like some federal case against the evil Bobby Kennedy. And you heard Kennedy's response there. Another big moment came when Nevada Senator Catherine Cortez Masto, she's a Dem. And I got news for you, madam.

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that those two will be very involved in whatever projects he pursues there. I mean, Callie is a whistleblower from inside of the corrosive big food industry who saw the light, exited, and then has been jumping up and down about the toxins that are being put in our food supply ever since. And Dr. Casey Means wrote Good Energy. She's been on the show numerous times. She's brilliant.

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Stanford trained doctor, was a surgeon at Stanford post finishing her residency or Oregon. I can't remember. Anyway, the point is Stanford, Stanford. And she walked away from a very lucrative career as a surgeon because she was sick and tired of seeing what big medicine was doing to us. It just they put the incentive to keep us sick, to never solve anything.

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So those two were there front and center right behind the Kennedy family. many of whom sat right behind their dad, their husband, their cousin. As you know, it's a big family and it's not without its losers. We'll get to that. Joining me now to discuss it, our friend Link Loren, who is a former senior advisor to RFKJ during his presidential campaign. Link, welcome back.

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Exactly right. It was amazing when he, I think we have this actually, when he left the hearing room at the end of the day, they broke out into cheers, not the senators, the spectators who were in the audience. Here it is.

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You just don't see that every day where like he's the head of a movement, Link. That's what they don't seem to be getting.

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Yes, and as I said, there were moms in the audience with their children today trying to send a message to these senators that they mean business. These mama bears, I think, are so largely responsible for this even happening, right? For Maha, for RFKJ getting elevated in some part, for Trump winning.

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Even if they might not have loved Trump himself, they got to the polls because they believed that he would make good on his promises on Maha, and he's doing that with this appointment. The family members are disgusting. Not those who showed up today, but Caroline Kennedy, who's the daughter of JFK and her son writes her son, Jack Schlossberg.

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I don't know which one was worse, but let me start with Caroline Kennedy, who what? I mean, Caroline, can I realize your dad was president like, OK, good for you is a long time ago. But I and then you are a big Democrat donor. So they made you ambassador to Australia. which doesn't mean you know anything, anything at all, but she still thinks that people want to hear from her.

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OK, your state is getting redder by the second. So I would tread carefully if I were you. And you know what else? It tends to be that the further west the state is, the more Maha is popular. My California friends who have been voting Democrat, some of them their whole lives, love Maha. And I guarantee you, Nevada Senator Catherine Cortez Masto has a lot of them in her state, too.

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And I guess in some leftist circles, they do because she's got the name Kennedy. Okay, he was killed in 1963. It's like, she was cute. She's the little daughter. We had a part of Camelot, which was a lie anyway, but it's like... Who is like, gee, I really want to hear from Caroline Kennedy about RFKJ and what he was like 30 years ago.

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Here she is in a video that is a reenactment of a letter that that was mentioned by some Democrats today.

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I mean, just to recap, I admire him, but he caused family members deaths and he's a liar and a cheat and also a predator. None of which was actually supported in her little shtick, not to mention the Kennedy family addictions, which had a long history that predates RFKJ link.

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The nerve to try to blame the Kennedy family addiction problem on one Kennedy, right? Maybe he did do drugs with or drink with other family members. You know who else did? Your Uncle Teddy. Caroline, who was one of the biggest drunks we've ever seen in public service to the point where he killed a woman. He killed Mary Jo Kopechny when they drove off a bridge in Chappaquiddick.

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And as the car was falling to the ground under the water, he left her. He walked away and waited hours before reporting it. So maybe you should talk about addiction problems with a different branch of the family, not to mention her own father's pill popping, which has become so legendary that now it gets talked about like we had an active addict as a president in the White House.

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But it's all Bobby Kennedy's fault for introducing people to or doing drugs with some other family members. Now she wants to blame it all on him. I mean, Link, it totally undermined her credibility. And like she tried to comment as like,

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You know, the libs who thought that the right was crazy and was neoconny and wanted to spy on them, and they weren't much akin to that. They weren't friendly toward it. They like Maha. And this is the face of Maha, so she better watch it. She decided it'd be super fun to frame RFKJ as just a loser stooge for this Trump administration.

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Right. OK, but now can you speak to as somebody who knows him well, the baby chickens and the mice in the blender led to a perverse scene of despair and violence. That's what she accused him of housing in some basement where baby chickens were being sacrificed. It's not funny. Forgive me, Peter. I'm not laughing at the baby chickens.

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It's just I'm laughing at the desperation and the attempt to take him down. Perverse scene of despair and violence by this predator who lies and cheats. He kills my relatives, but I love him.

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I kind of want to know more. Were they live mice, live baby chickens? Because I'm just saying we all eat adult chickens many times a week. It's not nice, but we do it because we're at the top of the food chain. The mice, I mean, it's sad, but you can go to Petco right now and buy a bunch of live mice to feed to your pet snake or your pet whatever. It's a thing.

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The baby chickens, I don't know, that's weird. But I kind of want to know more. I'm glad it didn't come up today, but don't try that at home.

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Yeah. All right. So the apple didn't fall far from the tree because her son, Jack Schlossberg, posted a video about a week ago, which is really despicable. It appears to be making fun of Bobby's speech issue, his vocal cord issue.

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How many leftists absolutely laid into Donald Trump in 1516 because on the campaign trail, they accused him of mocking a reporter's disability, which Trump denied he was doing. Not a peep. There were so many likes on this video. It was no Republican liking that shit. Who would do that to a family member?

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Right. I mean, it's like you want to, I just feel like the, his deceased grandfather would be shocked, would be horrified. And by the way, Caroline Kennedy was like, I don't try to speak for my father or my uncle, but they would both think he's a disgrace.

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So now she wants us to know she's vouching for the fact that Bobby's father would find his own son, who's just an uncle to her, absolutely disgraceful. But she never speaks for him, nor her own father, who also would hate RFKJ.

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Yeah. He's been in the news a lot this past year and none of it has been good. Then there's this. This is so Kennedy. And I'm talking about modern day Kennedy. We weren't around when the true alleged Camelot was around, but that was no Camelot either. JFK was banging everything with legs. I mean, it was like absolutely no loyalty or faithfulness to his wife, including the White House intern.

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Okay. I'm just like, okay, whatever. We were sold a bag of goods because they were Democrats. They weren't doing that to the Republicans. Those people were getting impeached thanks to Woodward and Bernstein. But Maria Shriver weighs in now on the Caroline Kennedy video.

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Just to, like, we're such good people. Oh my God, we're so good. We Kennedys, we're so strong and we always do the right thing, except for him. He's the black sheep. She, on X, posted in response to Caroline's video, Courage is when you do something hard, heartbreaking, and painful, and you do it anyway. Love you, Caroline. Always have, always will. Okay, so this is superfluous wording.

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She said the same thing twice. But in any event, this is so Kennedy, right? Like I'm digging the dagger into my loved one at his moment of need, like the most important moment of his life. I'm trying my best to absolutely humiliate him and kill his chances. And I'm noble. Just in case you didn't know how noble I am and how noble our family is, here I am, Maria Shriver, to tell you that.

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Okay. I guess Schlossberg, the guy, this is, again, JFK's grandson, Caroline's son, Apple Tree, posted this today. We have it cut. He's decided he really does like making fun of family members and others. No? Oh, it's a tweet? Okay. It's a post. Okay.

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which is responding to Nicole Shanahan. In fact, let me set it up. Here's what Nicole Shanahan posted. Yeah, and then here's his response. Here's Nicole Shanahan warning the senators who are beating up on RFKJ today.

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Right on, Nicole. So his response was, she's literally so hot. Who knew? Cannot imagine a senator being intimidated by this bird. That is the perfect tweet. That is exact. That is leftism. in a nutshell, right? Like if Tucker Carlson ever remarked on how hot Nicole Shanahan is, he'd be getting called a sexist pig by everyone over on Jack Schlossberg's side of the aisle. So he puts it in there.

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Why? To diminish her. He's actually using it to diminish her down to her appearance, as we see with the follow up line, which shows he is not her fan. Cannot imagine a senator being intimidated by this bird. This bird, well, like this little breakable, sad, weak little thing who is scary to no one. Right.

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So it's like try to knock her down by reducing her just to her looks, then insult her as a weakling who no one is afraid of. This is the party that is pro woman. Right. Not not right. Not Trump, not RFKJ because he flew the coop to stay on the bird motif. It's perfectly on brand.

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So this also happened on The View today where Joy Behar referred to the new press secretary, Caroline Leavitt, who did an amazing job this week. She's she's green and she's young, but she's very strong, very strong. And she's going to get even better. This is why she thinks Trump chose her.

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So that's why he chose Caroline Leavitt, according to the tolerant left, because of her looks. And I posted this out online. It's again, it's an attempt to diminish her. You know, she's nothing more than a pretty face. She can't be taken seriously. But I think you made this point on my show, like, let's face it, we really are making America hot again. Like this.

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I said, we're about to have the hottest cabinet ever. And let's face it, Republicans in general these days, like that New York Magazine cover, I don't know. I just feel like Republicans are all about these days making an effort, pulling yourself together, presenting yourself well. There is an unusual percentage of good-looking people who support Donald Trump. I don't know what it is.

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And then on the left, you have these lunatics shaving their heads, wearing their blue bracelets, having their enormous reading glasses everywhere. It's not a good look. It's not something young people are going to want to be associated with. And back to the original point, Joy Behar would be ripping on Jesse Waters if he said the only reason Joe Biden selected somebody was because she was a 10.

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Though I can't think of anybody in his cabinet who'd come to. Anyway, whatever. What are your thoughts on it?

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All right, now back to the hearing. I want to ask you a question. So we cannot afford to lose four senators, you know, and four Republicans, unless a Democrat crosses over. But we're not sure if there are any such Democrats willing to cross over. They should, because as we saw, a lot of these swing states where these Democrats come from voted for Trump. They voted for Trump.

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So it's not now Rhode Island is not one of them, though. Rhode Island is blue. It's very blue. But Sheldon Whitehouse, a Democrat who just really did is a soliloquy during his questioning, which I said actually some of it made a lot of sense in terms of like what's happening to our grannies and elder care.

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So it's kind of a safe place to go because it wasn't about how bad Trump is or Republicans are or RFKJ has been. It really wasn't. though there was a tinge of it. But there's a lot of questioning about whether he could be a Dem to cross over, even though he's in a blue state, because they went to law school together. I think they were in each other's weddings.

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I think there are other, like a long, long friendship between the two of them. Not sure if it's still in existence. Certainly didn't sound like it, given the way Sheldon Whitehouse signed off his little soliloquy today. We have a little bit of a cut. I'm gonna ask you about him, and then I'm gonna ask you about the Republican,

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senator cassidy who people are worried about so they're hoping for white house to cross and they're hoping that cassidy will not fall down and go with uh the rfkj haters first here's the democrat from rhode island sheldon whitehouse mr kennedy i only have five minutes with you so and i've got a lot of experience with cms so you're just gonna have to listen uh two things

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He didn't give the chance to say one thing in response. But how do you like RFKJ's chances with Senator Whitehouse?

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Now, there were some who believed that Cortez Masto could potentially be a yes vote for RFKJ because of the reasons I just stated. I didn't see that today in the room. Doesn't mean she won't eventually do it. But the general wisdom in there was that none of these Dems who might be open to the idea of RFKJ, who was a Democrat two minutes ago that they loved.

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Thank you. Honestly, these Democrats got behind Rachel Levine and celebrated his elevation to being the alleged first female, whatever the role was. I don't have the exact title. It's not a female. It's a man. It's a man who lived his whole life as a man, went to med school as a man, practiced as a man, raised a family as a man.

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And I think at 53 decided he was going to start masquerading as a woman. Right. after a lifetime of being a man and having some of the advantages that come with that, especially during the time he grew up, when it comes to getting into med school and so on.

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But then actually wanted us to celebrate him as the first female this and the first female that, as though he had climbed any of the same hills we had. Fuck off, sir, and take off that ridiculous dress. They all loved him. Rachel Levine's like the face of HHS under Joe Biden. But Robert Kennedy, he's too much of a kook, Link. We can't vote for that.

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They just, they made fools out of themselves. In the same way they keep looking at Trump and saying,

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Okay, I do want to show you the Republican. Senator Cassidy, who's a doctor, was very forensic in his approach. There was no warmth whatsoever emanating off of him. And I was not able to read him. If I had to put him down right now as yes or no, I'd say he's leaning no, just given how cold he seemed toward Bobby. But I don't know anything about him, to be perfectly honest. So here he is.

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So I realized that was a very boring clip, but I cut it that way so that the audience can see what he was doing to him. And, you know, he's not actually going to be directly atop of Medicare. That's going to be Dr. Oz if he gets confirmed. He's going to be running Medicare. But... They thought it was fair game, right, because it's under NIH. Right.

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probably none will want to be the deciding vote. So if he loses four Republican votes, then he's going to need one Dem. And the wisdom is that not Cortez Masto, Sheldon Whitehouse of Rhode Island is like a lifelong friend of RFKJ's. some thought maybe he could potentially be that vote. They went to law school together. I'm pretty sure they were both in each other's weddings.

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And I think that Senator Cassidy was already well aware that Bobby Kennedy was going to have difficulty answering those questions. It's not something he's talked about in the campaign trail. It's not really part of his mission. Of course, he he'll have somebody there who can oversee this. But the senator knew all that. So I think he was trying to embarrass him.

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while not looking like a complete prick, right? Looking like he was staying on topic, which does not give me a lot of hope. And I don't think McConnell's going to vote for Kennedy. And I don't have high hopes after Hegseth of Collins and Murkowski. And if that calculation is true, that's four down, which kills the nomination. So he would need a Dem. And now we're on shaky ground.

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That's my own back of the envelope math there, Link. I don't know what you're hearing.

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You're in office now, Kamala. Yeah, I mean, that's the crazy thing is we're coming off of four years of Democrat rule. The Democrats had control of HHS and the White House. Like what? I love like the long, these are the problem by the Democrats. Sheldon Whitehouse's whole bid on how bad it is for granny. The Democrats have been in power. Why didn't anything happen?

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But now he's disgusted at like, nobody works with me. It's like, well, you know what? This is a lifelong friend. If you would treat him nicely, maybe he would work with you. Even if you don't treat him nicely, he's probably gonna work with you. Here was RFKJ kind of, Speaking to the point of he's been a Democrat his entire life.

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But there's a fair amount of TDS, obviously, in politics and certainly in that hearing room today that was coloring the way people were coming for him. It's not 19.

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It was a great answer. My favorite part, though, Link, after the onesie, make onesies great again. That was my favorite part of the whole hearing when Bernie's like, do you favor this onesie? Will you promise to get this onesie? Like, who cares, Senator?

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Perfect. Pitch perfect, both in its messaging and his humor and the call out to Trump.

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You wouldn't have known that from today. So he's potentially at least another. He didn't beat up on RFKJ the way the others did. He just used his five minutes to go off on the issues in Rhode Island. And I got to be honest, a lot of what he said, I actually agreed with. He was going on and on about the nonsense rules that constrict states when it comes to, for example, elder care.

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Yeah, he was talking about how the people in Japan still have a 3% obesity rate. They haven't gone up exponentially like we have in the United States with all of our processed food and the way we eat. And Kennedy's been talking a long time about the rise in autism, the rise in ticks, the rise in allergies. Why are we seeing it? And his theory is...

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It's because we are swimming in a sea of toxins every day in our food supply, in our water supply, in the air we breathe, in the furniture we sit on, everywhere. And it's time we get really honest about what those things are and whether we can eliminate them from our daily diet. And I use the term diet to encompass all of that, not just the food that we take in. It would be so encouraging.

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uplifting i don't give me something to feel good about and all of us to have somebody at the top of hhs who's even thinking about that stuff link you know who's just who's identified that stuff as a problem and instead of just shoulder shrugging because it's going to upset big pharma or big ag or what and then it is actually going to try to do something about it i'll give you the last word

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Wow. All right. Well, we'll continue to follow it. And we should know more over the coming days about how the votes on that committee are settling. And don't forget, Link, thank you. Tomorrow, our exclusive interview with Secretary of State Marco Rubio. This is his very first long-form interview since becoming Secretary of State. It's days before he jets off for his first foreign trip to Panama.

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hitler nazi fascist convicted felon and everybody's like screw you we have a country to save that's how i felt today watching them go after rfkj they don't get it that audience was filled with parents moms with infants with little kids with them trying to send a message to these senators they're done playing these ridiculous games half these senators are on the take with

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That's interesting, right, given what Trump has been saying. We're going to ask him about Trump's standoff with Colombia, in which Colombia caved in about 40 minutes. We'll ask him about what's next in the Middle East, what's next in Ukraine. I mean, talk about having a lot on your plate. Under Trump, the secretary of state has a lot to do. And it's going to be a very it's going to take a lot of.

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political acumen to thread the needle on some of these issues, both here internally within the United States and when dealing with his foreign counterparts. We wish him a lot of luck with it, and it should be a fascinating sit down. Hope you will tune in for that. We'll see you then. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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And how, you know, you want if granny kept calling her granny, like granny gets sick and you want to take and like the caregivers of the family who need a break instead of like providing coverage for a caregiver to come in for a day or two so the family can have a break.

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They insist that granny going in ambulance to the hospital, that insurance will pay for, but not not the former, which is stupid, as he kept saying. So I got to say, White House is making some good points. He's a possible on RFKJ, but we don't know. And the two absolute worst, absolute worst in the room were Ron Wyden of Oregon. He's the ranking member, meaning the top Democrat on the committee.

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And Mark Warner of Virginia, who I'm going to, it's tough to say. I'm going to let you guys be the judge. First, I'll get Michael Knoll's vote. In a bit, we're going to be joined by Link Lauren. He worked on RFKJ's campaign. And he's got a lot of a lot of thoughts on all of that. But first, Michael Knowles is here. He's hosted the Michael Knowles show on The Daily Wire.

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So just like last time you and I did this after Hegseth, I was in the room. I was seated right behind Cheryl Hines, the wife of RFKJ, who must have blown Hollywood's mind for those who didn't know she was married to him to see her, the star of Curb Your Enthusiasm, Larry David Show, right there. And I was totally struck by the amount of enthusiasm in the crowd for him. He's a rock star.

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That's like as much as the people love Pete. They were military guys. They file follow the rules. You know, they were told not to clap and not to make sound. And they didn't. The RFKJ Maha crew was like, bring it. They were booing people like Elizabeth Warren. Whenever the hecklers got loud, they were yelling, we love you, Bobby! And the woman who was seated a couple down from me was awesome.

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She just kept like... when Bobby got on a roll, she was like, tell it. I'm like, this is so much better with her here. So it was kind of fun. Today's was, it was kind of fun, probably not for Bobby Kennedy, but it was fun for people like me too, just to see once again, these Democrats have nothing. They just want to inflame, you know, throw arrows.

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All of it was about conspiracy theorist and anti-vaccine freak. That's really where they went with it. What were your thoughts?

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with big pharma or big ad for that matter, and doing big pharma's bidding live in the hearing. They don't want RFKJ. They don't want somebody who's been suing big pharma his entire career. That's who pays their reelection bills. And it was very obvious as you watch them today, they were smearing him.

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But the science shows that there's no link between antidepressants and school shooting. Okay, does it? That's an impossibility that they could absolutely rule out that they played any role in any of these. But keep going.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. Oh, we've got a treat for you today with a guest who has not been on this show in nearly three years. He's only been here one other time, way back in April of 2021, episode 84. I mean, that's a long time ago. We weren't even on video.

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Today, Americans have thousands of choices in credit cards, but they say Senator Durbin's plan will result in less competition and less security. And that means more risk for your credit and your identity. Learn more at guardyourcard.org. And consider telling your senators to stop Dick Durbin's government takeover of your credit card before it's too late. Jordan, great to have you back.

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With their own party. Their own party is at that level, never mind with net voters. I reached out to a couple of friends of mine who are on the left. And my one friend, or at least formerly of the left, my one friend has a son who is now 16 and who was, like she was, very left, a committed Democrat.

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And he's been raised in New York City, surrounded by other Democrats and gone through the school systems there, which are replete with Democrats. And he and many of his friends now are Trump supporting MAGA hat wearing Republicans. And so I asked her after I saw this article in NBC and I knew you were going to come on today.

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I said, what, try to explain, you know, in a nutshell, what did it, what, how did he have this dramatic transformation? Because I've known them, you know, I've, I saw him go from this leftist to this MAGA hat wearing kid. And she summed it up by saying, I actually, I pulled it, but she summed it up as follows. She said, um, The main communication between government and young people is education.

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If the curriculum is that white voices don't matter anymore, that's alienating to every white boy out there. She said, my son feels that they have blamed straight white men for everything. He is not allowed to read white male authors. There. And it reminded me, Jordan, of a story my one friend told me about his sister, who was a visiting professor at Smith College, where she came in.

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Oh, so yeah, I love Peterson Academy. It's very smart. It's a place for someone to educate themselves. You know, the people who are rejecting possibly going to Brown University in today's day and age can instead go to Peterson Academy and learn lessons that actually really will help them improve their lives. What's the goal of it? Let me just start there. And who's it for?

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They asked her to come be a visiting professor. She was from Yale and she taught English. And she got reported almost immediately to the dean of her group. Why? Not because her syllabus for the students had a bunch of white males on there, but because she had any. Because there was a white male on the syllabus.

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Westmore and Ned Lamont and Gretchen Whitmer will never acknowledge any of this, nor, God forbid, say that it's a potential problem.

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This also happened just FYI, speaking of our New York City experience. One of the top schools in New York, Brearley, that's an all-girls school, which is just a funnel to the Ivies. And it's one of those schools where many, many parents in New York would give anything to get their child in there. I mean, the tuition now is probably nearing 70 grand a year. Same thing.

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You had to, as a family, applying your daughter to the school affirm your commitment to DEI and offer one of these DEI values and how they're incorporated into your family statements on applying to the school. So they were screening out anybody. They didn't want anybody. And I think it's still in place at Brearley.

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who didn't bend the knee fully and completely to DEI and then have specific examples of how it was being incorporated into their child rearing at home. Keep going.

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Can you believe – like I'm thinking about Ned Lamont in Connecticut. So he thinks if he – greases the wheels for more boys to become teachers, that this is going to be the solution. Now, it would be great to have more male role models for boys in K through 12 education. I think everybody can see the value of that. But what does he ignore?

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He ignores the fact that we live in Connecticut, where there are a significant number of large cities where there is a large black population. And in over 70 percent of black homes, they are missing a father. There is no father figure. The father has split and there's no one who stepped in to fill the gap. Why don't you? Start there, Ned Lamont. He would never speak of that, Jordan, right?

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He's not going to talk about the crisis in boys missing strong male role models and start in the black community, which actually would help those young boys on their own get into elite academic institutions, much more than saying, I'm going to grease the pipeline for them to become teachers.

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Well, it's a great idea. I love that you're doing it and really as is typical for your voice in the national conversation, helping people, really helping people.

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I've got to kick it off here because what happened was yesterday I went on the Adam Carolla show and he wanted to discuss, I don't think we ever actually got to it, but he wanted to discuss this article he drew my attention to from NBC News dated March 24th. And the headline of the piece is the plight of boys and men once sidelined by Democrats is now a priority.

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And the sub headline is in recent months, three democratic governors have announced initiatives geared toward helping boys and men. And when I saw initiatives, my note on the page was, duh, no, right? Like to me, I'll tell you what they're doing and the, but you're the expert.

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Well, and the other thing is these women can take the advice or leave the advice, but it speaks to a lot of people. And why is it their prerogative? Why do they need to tell you that you're a woman hater? Because this is how you see the world. This is what your expertise has driven you to conclude. This is what interviewing and counseling all these patients has led you.

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I mean, it's a valid viewpoint that they can take for what it's worth or reject, but not, then comes the names, you know, calling and the mudslinging. And we're going to get into that in a minute because I'm very interested in, first of all, I'm going to show the audience what some of these Democrats are now trying to do. And I believe it's a direct effort to recruit young men.

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In addition to this effort we've discussed, there's another one underway. And then we're going to talk more about the blowback that Jordan has received just for saying these things. This is his POV and it's very well informed. But it has not come without a personal and professional price for Jordan Peterson, who stays with me for the full show. Don't go away.

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And you tell me, because you've been speaking about out about the plight of boys and men a lot longer than NBC news has been paying attention to it. You tell me whether they're getting it. Um, I'll give you a couple of examples. So it just happens to be at least two of the three are presidential hopefuls on the Dem side.

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Those in power over in the US Senate, for example, seem to have a different approach in mind. And all I can guess is that this is their idea of the masculinity that they have erased from their own party. They think this is how to restore it. You tell me whether you agree and whether this is effective. Take a look.

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So two US, well, three US senators, and one of whom is the minority leader. More and more, you know, off-color words. I'm a big fan of swearing, as my audience knows. It only works if it comes organically to you. This did not seem organic at all. Chuck Schumer seemed uncomfortable actually saying it there. But my own belief, Jordan, is that this is their belief of how to win young men back.

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The third is Ned Lamont of Connecticut, my adopted home state, who is very clueless. But the other two are Wes Moore of Maryland, who's said to be on the short list, very charismatic, black governor who is more centrist, or so they'd have us believe in his approach to governing. And then there's Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer. So here's what they're doing.

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It was just an audio interview by phone. Jordan B. Peterson is a fascinating thinker and a leading intellectual of our time. And there may not be a greater voice over the past decade speaking out about the crisis with men and boys and more. Plus, his home country is about to become our 51st state. So that's exciting. He's Canadian.

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You know, it's interesting because I listened to a bunch of leftists talk about this issue in recent weeks because I'm curious to see what they think the problem is. And many, many, if not all, blame President Trump. They think he's... you know, a bully. He swears occasionally. He's not nice to people. They think, they think he's bad to women.

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And then the Elon gets dumped in there for a good measure too, as same on all those fronts. And once again, Jordan, I think they've totally misunderstood what it is about Trump. And for that matter, Elon, that is drawing young men to them. I don't think it has anything to do with Trump and his behavior toward women 30 years ago.

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Okay, Moore says the wellbeing of our young men and boys has not been a societal priority, true. Then he says, hold on, let me find it, that he's going to create programs to help in particular boys from the inner city and encourage them to pursue jobs in education and healthcare, to help boys with the juvenile justice system

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And I don't think it's Trump's occasional dropping of a swear, although I do think that makes him seem much more relatable to especially the working class. You know, that's how folks talk. That's how I talk, frankly. But I think it makes him more relatable as opposed to a Mitt Romney who is just perfectly buttoned up and smoothed out. You know, there's less to sort of grab onto, less grit.

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Elon is incredibly successful, which I think everyone can respect, but he's not out there I don't know. Maybe he's a little pugilistic these days because he's in it and he's getting punched so often. But can you speak to that? Why do you think the left thinks that what's happening on the right with respect to some admiration for Andrew Tate, et cetera, is really the fault of Donald Trump?

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That's how they interpret it, that these toxically masculine guys are the product of Trumpism.

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I mean, from that standpoint, they should love Elon. Yeah. Given his failure to marry and have a bunch of kids.

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and to make sure he solicits input from boys and men on how those initiatives are designed. To me, this seems like he's focused on inner city boys and helping them overcome poverty and so on. Okay. Then there's Gretchen Whitmer, who shared plans on how she's going to boost young men's enrollment in higher education and skills training.

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Yeah, I think you're exactly right on that. So you've been saying all these things for years now, many years. And maybe if Wes Moore and Gretchen Whitmer and Adam Schiff and Chris Murphy and Chuck Schumer had listened to you back in 1516, maybe their party wouldn't be in this predicament. I don't know, because you're saying it's really a worldwide phenomenon. It's caused by leftism, though.

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I think that's at its core what it's been caused by. And I don't see leftism, more leftism being the cure for it, but it may be some awakeness on the part of the left, not wokeness, but some awakeness on what they've done to young men is a positive.

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In any event, I don't know that they're capable of getting there because one of the controversies that you suffered through as a result of speaking these truths was. A Hollywood actress and director, Olivia Wilde, made a whole movie about this alleged toxic masculinity, and it starred a fake you. Chris Pine played a character who she admitted was based on Olivia Wilde's view of Jordan Peterson.

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And she was extremely nasty talking about you. She went on her PR tour promoting her movie, Don't Worry Darling was the name of it. saying, You're an insane person who is, quote, a pseudo-intellectual hero to the incel community. Incel, for the listening audience, I think you know this, but it stands for involuntarily celibate young men who are not having any sexual relations whatsoever.

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And the despair that comes with that is rejected. It's really just they're painted as basically white supremacist alt-right people who gravitate onto meaningless pseudo-intellectuals in Olivia Wilde's view. And so here's just a clip from her movie of Chris Pine playing what we now know is a Jordan Peterson type. And then we'll pick it up from there.

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That was absolutely atrocious acting and directing and presentation. But the attack on you was obvious. And of course, they make you seem like some faux preacher type and like a cult leader from the 1950s instead of what you're actually doing. And there was an extraordinary moment where you went on with our pal Piers Morgan after this, and he asked you about it.

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And it was very moving, but I want to play the clip. Here it is, SOT 12.

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And then there's Ned Lamont of Connecticut, who announced what he called... A DEI initiative, which he thinks, quote, folks on both sides of the aisle may appreciate to get more men into teaching. You're going to tell me what my reaction to this was. You've shot and you've missed. They need to spend more time at Peterson Academy. But you tell me whether this is the answer.

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Why did that make you so emotional, Jordan? What is it you've seen that Olivia Wilde hasn't?

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The... the portrayal of the fake Jordan in that movie was the least of what has happened to you since the last time you were on. Incredibly, it was not that long ago. It was in 2022 that you were suspended from X. This is now unthinkable with Elon in charge, but I do believe there's a purpose to it all. I really do. You were suspended from X due to a post about

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about Ellen Page, who now goes by Elliot Page. And now she says she's a he, but she's a she. And you tweeted out during Pride Month, which made it actually controversial. Remember when Pride was a sin and Ellen Page just had her breasts removed by a criminal physician? And you got in trouble. You're suspended from X during that time, which was then Twitter.

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And you said, the suspension will not be lifted unless I delete the hateful tweet. And I would rather die than do that. That was one. And then you also posted about this woman who was... in Sports Illustrated in her bathing suit, who is morbidly obese. This is May of 2022.

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And you said, I'm going to leave X at this point because I've received an endless flood of insults because you saw this picture and said, sorry, not beautiful. And no amount of authoritarian tolerance is going to change that. That one you did later delete, but there was so much. No, I don't think so. Oh, no? Okay, maybe my information is wrong.

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But my point is simply, you are not allowed to have those opinions, Jordan. You can't say that Elliot is still really Ellen and not a woman any longer. And you can't say that a morbidly obese woman in the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition is... is in your opinion, not beautiful.

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And by implicit implication that you prefer the old approach to sports illustrated swimsuit models, which in which you speak on both fronts for 99.9% of the world, that's willing to be honest.

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But here's the thing about that that's so infuriating. So this woman, her name is Yumi Nu, she's allowed to pose in a public magazine. She's very well aware that in her hopes, millions of people will see this photo and comment on it. But in her mind, the bargain, and in the mind of the left, the bargain can only include positive feedback, compliments.

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And anybody who doesn't feel that way about it and is honest about it is a villain. But meanwhile, you were not commenting and probably didn't even know who this Yumi Nu was prior to her choice to put her body into a bikini and on the pages of Sports Illustrated. You weren't picking on her. You weren't just sitting around thinking like, how can I criticize some random obese person?

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She asked you to comment on her. She asked you to. That's why she was in a magazine. But under their rules, which are not the Jordan Peterson rules for life, you are not allowed to be honest if honesty is anything other than absolute praise.

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Most recently, I mean, he's sold 14 million books in the past couple of years. It's pretty impressive. But most recently, he authored We Who Wrestle With God, Perceptions of the Divine.

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You know, I like the way you started that. What, what shouldn't the goal be to make yourself so attractive in just in heart and soul, not to mention on the outside, that does require some effort that they're lining up, that they're lining up there. And if that's not happening, why, why is it? You know, it's my, my favorite poem. Um, You'll find the fault lies in you, right? Make an examination.

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You'll find the fault lies in you. It's called yourself to blame. And it's empowering. It's not about self-flagellation. It's about if there's something wrong in your life, you fix it. And that especially starts with you, you, how you are and how you are in the world. I wish we had another two hours, Jordan. I loved talking to you. Thank you so much for being here today.

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And back at you. Okay, all the best. And tomorrow, the fellas from Ruthless will be here. We'll look forward to that. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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So the Democrats are paying attention to this now because Trump won, because they ignored this group, more than ignored them. They disparaged them. They demeaned them. They ignored them. They were just completely undermining of any male empowerment whatsoever. To the contrary, they seemed determined to disempower them in every way, to make...

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And he's also the host of The Daily Wires, the Jordan B. Peterson podcast and founder of Peterson Academy, which I have to tell you, I've spent a fair amount of time nosing around on and clicking on videos and is well worth it. And then I subscribed. I started buying stuff. Don't go there unless you really want to get attached and you have some time to devote to it.

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My sons and everyone else's pay some toll for the perceived sins perceived by the left of their great, great grandfathers. And now they're now they're panicked because they like winning elections. Go ahead.

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Yes. And just I mean, the audience has heard this, but just as a reminder, we pulled our children, our two boys and our daughter. She was at a different school. We pulled our children from their New York City private schools because of this radicalism. When our eldest was in third grade at literally one of the best and most respected private schools in the country.

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And an all boys school where they're supposed to have some knowledge and expertise in educating boys in the third grade without telling the parents they unleashed a several week long educational program on these boys on.

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trans issues featuring men running around in tutus, suggesting if you like the color purple, you might potentially secretly be a girl, and then made the little boys, all these boys in third grade, raise their hands and say on a scale of one through five how certain they were that they were boys.

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And I can't remember whether it was the five or the fist that just suggested, I'm just confused about what you're saying here. Like, I don't understand what you're asking me. And all these little kids chose that option because they didn't even have any understanding of what was being introduced to them.

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As President Trump is settling into his new administration, one of the top Democrats in Congress aiming to undermine the Trump agenda is Senator Dick Durbin. And according to our sponsor, the Electronic Payments Coalition, Senator Durbin has a new scheme, a government takeover of your credit card.

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And this was a school, Jordan, where all the parents who go there most are really wanting little junior to get into Harvard or Yale or Stanford. And so these parents typically do not push back because the name of the game is to be well-liked. by the administration and the people who have Junior's future in their hands.

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And even this group after that was outraged and revolted and stood up to say, what are you doing? They were actually teaching the children that there could be a hundred genders, but at least three or four. I mean, I heard that with my own ears from a teacher. So I think what you're saying for people out there who are thinking, no, they can't. No, it's absolutely true. We lived it.

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And you're right. To me, it was child abuse. We pulled them because they were being abused by these teachers.

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Mr. Archer was convicted in 2018 of two felonies for his role in fraudulently selling more than $60 million of tribal bonds on behalf of a South Dakota tribe. The judge sentencing Mr. Archer to a year in prison, ordering him to forfeit nearly $16 million. and pay $43 million in restitution.

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Mr. Archer has since claimed Hunter Biden was also involved in the scheme, but he was protected from prosecution. In August 2023, Mr. Archer testified in a closed-door oversight committee hearing where he provided firsthand accounts of Hunter Biden discussing business dealings with then-Vice President Joe Biden, contrary to what the Biden family had previously maintained.

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President Trump signing a full pardon from the White House on Tuesday afternoon.

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Mr. Archer telling the New York Post, quote, like so many people, my life was devastated by the Biden family's selfish disregard for the truth and for the peace of mind and happiness of others. And that'll do it for your AM Update. I'm Megyn Kelly.

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Join me back here for The Megyn Kelly Show, live on SiriusXM Triumph Channel 111, at New East, on YouTube.com slash Megyn Kelly, and on all podcast platforms.

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Some of their solutions are time sensitive, so you got to move quickly. Go to donewithdebt.com. That's donewithdebt.com. President Trump expressing confidence in National Security Advisor Mike Walz following a report that Mr. Walz accidentally added the Atlantic's editor-in-chief, Jeffrey Goldberg, to a private group chat on messaging app Signal discussing war plans.

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Mr. Trump saying in a gaggle, quote, Michael Walz has learned a lesson and he's a good man. Mr. Trump saying the incident is the only glitch in the two months since retaking office and, quote, it turned out to not be a serious one. Left-wing critics disagree.

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A tense day on Capitol Hill for Trump administration intel officials after The Atlantic's editor-in-chief was accidentally added to what he calls a war-planning group chat. The DOJ claiming former Columbia student agitator Mahmoud Khalil, whom DHS is seeking to deport, lied on his green card application.

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Republican analyst Scott Jennings on CNN saying much of the criticism is likely overblown.

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Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth says no war plans were shared. Jeffrey Goldberg telling CNN on Monday night they were.

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Mr. Goldberg saying in subsequent interviews he may release more of the conversation. On Tuesday morning, Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard, FBI Director Kash Patel, and CIA Director John Radcliffe appearing before the Senate Intel Committee on a hearing about global threats facing the U.S. It turned into a grilling on the signal chat.

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Both Directors Gabbard and Radcliffe, who were on the message chain, saying no classified intelligence was shared.

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Democrats on the committee orchestrating many combative exchanges.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Wednesday, March 26th, 2025. This is your AM Update.

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Is it classified or non-classified information on this tech? Back at the White House, the administration embracing what they think of as the big picture, like the attacks against the Houthi rebels, were a success.

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New details in the Trump administration's fight to deport former Columbia University student agitator Mahmoud Khalil. Khalil objects to being deported, arguing in part that he has a green card. In a new court filing, federal prosecutors saying Mr. Khalil lied on that green card application by leaving out key information from his background.

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Prosecutors alleging Mr. Khalil failed to report his role as a political affairs officer with the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees from June to November 2023, a period that includes the October 7th Hamas attacks, in which 1,200 people were killed in Israel. and around 250 taken hostage, including Americans.

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He's going to use his authority, unchecked until this point, to lead the judicial insurrection, the judicial resistance to President Trump and his administration.

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In January 2024, Israeli intelligence reported that at least 12 UNRWA employees took part in the October 7th attacks, prompting the Biden administration to suspend U.S. funding to UNRWA. A December 2024 UN Watch report further accusing UNRWA's leadership of allowing Hamas to infiltrate the group and indoctrinate Palestinian children with terrorist ideology.

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While Mr. Khalil's exact responsibilities at UNRWA are unclear, reporting indicates he was enrolled in a Columbia master's program from 2022 through December 2024, overlapping with the period prosecutors say he worked for UNRWA. It's not known whether he worked remotely, traveled to the region, or both.

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Prosecutors claim Khalil also failed to disclose his continuing employment with the British Embassy in Beirut after 2022. Finally, the filing claims that Mr. Khalil did not disclose his involvement to the feds with Columbia University Apartheid Divest, the radical activist student group he joined on Columbia's campus, which reportedly expressed sympathy for Hamas and Hezbollah.

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the group for which Khalil was spokesman, organizing major protests at Columbia, including the takeover of Hamilton Hall last year and the creation of the Gaza Solidarity encampment, both of which led to hundreds of arrests. Mr. Khalil's lawyer calls the new charges, quote, completely meritless, saying, quote, this case is purely about First Amendment-protected activity and speech, and U.S.

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Reporter Julie Kelly does a deep dive on Judge Boasberg in an AM Update exclusive. And President Trump pardons Hunter Biden's ex-best friend. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update. There's a lot of talk about government debt, but after four years of inflation, another real crisis is personal debt.

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citizens and permanent residents alike are free to say what they wish about what is going on in the world. Coming up, a closer look at U.S. District Court Chief Judge James Boasberg, the central figure in the Trump administration's legal battle to deport illegal immigrants under the Alien Enemies Act. And President Trump signing a pardon for Hunter Biden's ex-best friend.

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The IRS is the largest collection agency in the world. And with April 15th fast approaching, it's more aggressive than ever. Oh, joy. If you owe back taxes or you have unfiled returns, waiting is not an option. Not a good one. April 15th could mark another tax year that has passed you by and stressed you out. So the smart move is get ahead of it now. But listen, never contact the IRS alone.

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April 15th is just around the corner. Act now, people, before the IRS acts first. U.S. District Court Judge James Boasberg emerging as a central figure in the legal resistance to the second Trump administration. So far, federal judges handing down at least 15 universal injunctions, nationwide orders halting President Trump's executive actions. That can take months or even years to overturn.

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None drawing more intense scrutiny than Judge Boasberg's decision to block deportations under President Trump's use of the Alien Enemies Act of 1798. Judge Boasberg first halting the removal of five suspected members of the Tren de Aragua gang from Venezuela, later broadening that injunction to cover all non-citizens subject to deportation under the order.

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The move sparking fierce backlash from the Trump team. Senior advisor Stephen Miller accusing Judge Boasberg and others of overreach.

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We spoke with Julie Kelly, reporter for Declassified on Substack, who has covered Judge Boasberg's work extensively, both in this case and during his oversight of the January 6th trials in Washington, D.C. She says the judge's concern for Venezuelan deportees stands in stark contrast to how he treated nonviolent Trump supporters.

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He sentenced one man who had just told him that his cancer returned. He sentenced him to 45 days in prison. He sent another woman, 60-year-old woman from Pennsylvania, on nonviolent offenses, sent her to prison for 14 months. Her husband also had cancer. You know, they're aware of how these federal prisons operate. They know exactly how these people are going to be treated.

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So I think that's the real double standard here is his very cautious concern over not just the alleged due process rights of these Venezuelans, but worried about how they're going to be treated in an El Salvador prison when he demonstrated no such concern over how Trump supporters were going to be treated. federal prison.

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Under the Alien Enemies Act of 1798, the president has sweeping authority during wartime, an invasion, or an incursion to deport citizens of hostile nations with limited due process. Judge Boasberg has acknowledged that throughout the case, but continues to uphold his injunction anyway, citing due process concerns for the illegal immigrants who are alleged gang members. Ms.

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Kelly reporting that Judge Boasberg participated at a privately funded anti-Trump event. Just the news detailing on Monday, the legal conference featured sponsors and speakers who have expressed clear anti-Trump sentiments, particularly on immigration and January 6th, and a theme that echoed the Democrat Party's 2024 state admission of, quote, saving democracy.

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He attended a big conference in Idaho sponsored by several well-known anti-Trump donors and officials. The D.C. Bar Association said, that has done all that it can to destroy lawyers associated with the president. As the chief judge of the DC District Court, you shouldn't be attending any event that has political tones to it or any political angle to it.

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But he's showing up to show, to demonstrate that he's gonna use his authority unchecked until this point to lead the judicial insurrection, the judicial resistance to President Trump and his administration.

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Beyond Judge Boasberg's alleged political bias, Ms. Kelly pointing to signs of coordinated lawfare, highlighting ACLU documentation, including testimony from the five unnamed Venezuelans at the heart of this case. One claiming to have overheard, quote, two U.S. government officials talking, end quote, saying, there is an order saying we can't take off, but we already have.

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There are groups of lawyers saying who are coaching illegals how to buck the system. So this appears to be a very good representation of that, how these know exactly what needs to be said, exactly how to countermand what the administration is saying in court, and protect themselves from being identified as part of this gang.

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So it was pretty interesting to read these sworn statements, these declarations, talking about what they saw and what they heard, but also what saying that they don't speak English and they were asked to sign documents, but they didn't because they don't understand the language. So it just goes to the insanity of the whole process.

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On Monday, attorneys for the Trump administration and the defendants presenting oral arguments before a three-judge panel of the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals. The Trump administration asking the court to lift the pause on deportations under the Alien Enemies Act. The Obama-appointed judge on the D.C. Circuit appeared skeptical of the administration's argument.

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Patricia Millett, highly doubtful of the government's claims, she suggested that the Nazis were treated better under the Alien Enemies Act than the Venezuelan subjects. Julie Kelly, saying another Trump-appointed judge, Justin Walker, was in fact more skeptical of the ACLU's arguments.

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Judge Walker, on the other hand, kept pushing the ACLU as to why they didn't pursue habeas petitions for these individuals. They didn't really have a good answer for that. He kept saying that that was the appropriate remedy and asked, why did the ACLU choose to file that lawsuit in Washington, D.C., when none of the illegals in that lawsuit lived in Washington, D.C.?

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So it seemed like Judge Walker was very skeptical and noted, I think, identified several problems with both the ACLU lawsuit and Jeb Osberg's. temporary restraining order. So because it's an emergency motion, expecting some sort of answer this week. So they might put a temporary stay on Jeff Bosberg's temporary restraining orders to halt those flights.

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And if they do, what the DOJ said Monday afternoon is they would then go ahead and restart those deportation flights of TDA members to El Salvador.

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The third judge on the panel, Karen Henderson, is a George H.W. Bush appointee. She remained very quiet at the argument, making her vote harder to predict. Devin Archer, former business partner of Hunter Biden, on Tuesday receiving a federal pardon from President Trump.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. Oh, we have a great, great health and wellness show lined up for you today. But some important things to get to, well, both in the actual show and first, with this announcement in an exclusive here at The Megyn Kelly Show.

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They tested for a few specific auto-immunes. It didn't like register one versus another. And I said, do you think this could be because of what just happened with the getting the booster and then getting COVID within a month? And she said, yes, I do. And you're not the only patient I have seen have this exact sequence of events.

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So in other words, you need 60 yes votes to allow a vote. And if they can't get 60 yes votes to allow a vote, then the bill dies. If they get 60 yes votes to allow a vote, then the Republicans should get this through since they have a majority in the Senate.

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And the reason we need to stop this- So right about now, let me ask you this, Asim. By the way, before I forget, the earlier episode with Asim was episode 964, 964. Right about now, a lot of viewers are having the water rising right here. They're starting to get very stressed out because virtually everybody got the vaccine.

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And we have seen... I mean, who among us has not seen a sudden death by a loved one, a friend... somebody else's friend, et cetera, over the past few years and wondered, is it related to that vaccine? And they never say, they will never say it was the vaccine. I mean, just nobody says that. But it's like, okay, young, otherwise healthy people are dropping dead.

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And you both worry for those you love and you worry for yourself. I mean, I talked to people who are going down to Mexico and getting all their blood replaced. I'm like, well, that... How could that possibly work when you've altered your genes? If you've altered your genes, replacing all your blood with new blood is not going to change it.

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And all we're told, all GOP senators are expected to vote yes on the Protection of Women and Girls in Sports Act, which does exactly what it says it's going to do and keeps biological boys out of girls' sports. Will the Democrats, seven of them, cross over to allow a cloture vote so that we can see a substantive vote go forward? We'll watch out.

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And your own body, I think, replaces your blood anyway over the course of time. Anyway, is there anything you can say to make them feel better about their prospects right now?

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I remember saying on this program, If something goes very wrong with the vaccine, these drug companies are going to have to fix it because look at the number of people who are taking the vaccine. There's no way they'll be able to just allow millions of people to be vaccine injured and move forward. And I've never been more wrong about anything. That is the number one thing I have been wrong about.

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And we will be naming every single name who votes against this. We will be looking at their districts. And I guarantee you that there will be an activation like you've never seen before in every single one of those senators' districts. I'm talking to you, Democrats. Forget Republicans if they did this. every single Democrat, because this issue has over 80% support with the American public.

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Um, they, they've been, they've moved on. I mean, Steve Krakauer, my EP was just saying in my ear, we couldn't have even had this conversation three years ago. I mean, as it is, YouTube's probably going to slap a bunch of warnings on this discussion. Fine. Nobody reads your warnings, YouTube. Um, but even to get this video to live three years ago would have been very hard for us.

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And so it's like the mere fact that you're allowed to raise these questions and say these things is real progress, but we're far, far, far from Pfizer having to look at us and say, here's what we're doing about it.

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Here's the frustrating thing as a consumer or a patient is even... I wouldn't say I'm anywhere near as immersed in information as the full Maha team is, but... I mean, I've done a fair amount of interviews with people like you who are very smart on these issues, and I remain confused.

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Like, for example, on the cholesterol issue, you and I had... We talked about the LDLs and how they may not be the scary thing that your cardiologist or your doctor will tell you they are, and that, in fact, you made the point that a higher LDL actually could have a protective effect for older people when it comes to other illnesses and didn't think much of statins and so on. And then...

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I read Good Energy by Casey Means, who I love and respect and think she's amazing. She's not a cardiologist, but she is a doctor. And she's like, got to keep the LDLs down, right? So it's like, you know, it's like well-meaning people like me are like, I don't know what to do. And you're talking about, you know, your heart health and a potential heart attack.

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What kind of villain would vote against even allowing a vote to protect young girls? We will be naming you all. if you vote against this. So let's find out. And on the other side, if we get seven Democrats who allow this vote to go forward, who vote for the bill, anybody who actually substantively supports it, we will be celebrating you here on The Megyn Kelly Show.

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Listen to what he just said, what he just said, because I still have heard from my cardiologist, you know, stop eating so much red meat, stop eating so much red meat. And you're you didn't even mention red meat. You're talking about ultra processed foods, sugar and starchy carbs.

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And don't think it doesn't matter. Trust me, it does. We continue to face uncertainty when it comes to the economy, with a perfect storm brewing as Social Security and Medicare hit a breaking point as the largest generation is hitting retirement. A smaller workforce means a smaller tax base. You pair that with our growing national debt and rising cost of living, and we could have a big problem.

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Peter Attia likes that one too. He likes the calcium score just as sort of a baseline of where you are. So this is also fascinating. This is like, I'm so thrilled that RFKJ got in there and is going to be looking into things like this. I mean, already, you know, he's... Yesterday, there was an EO on...

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transparency on drug costs, you know, like already he's taking a look at interesting things and he stopped. What was the thing that he stopped yesterday? He stopped something. Oh, it was the testing program that was going on for the oral COVID vaccine. He was like, we're not stopping it forever, but we're pausing that. I'm not sure that's the best use of our use of our resources.

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So already he's in there questioning, you might say questioning. So as somebody who knows him and has worked closely with him, what do you think are going to be the top items we'll see over, let's say, the first 100 days or so?

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That's so encouraging. Just even back when I was in school, it was either, I can't even remember whether it was high school or college right now, but we learned about a study that had been done on two groups of monkeys. And it was that, I guess, I think it was monkeys, it might have been a different primate, but it was that there were two primates different cages of them.

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And they like a dominant monkey. The order works best when there's one dominant. And what they did was they put two dominant in one cage and just the one dominant in the second cage. And the monkeys got exactly the same food, exactly the same lifestyle. Nothing else was different other than the one cage of monkeys was very stressed out and the other wasn't.

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And then many years later, when they died of totally natural causes, they were dissected and they looked at their arteries and the arteries of the monkeys that had been in the stressed out cage were completely, they were clogged. They were not the picture of health versus the other monkeys, which shouldn't have anywhere near that level of fatty buildup on the walls of the arteries and so on.

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And the only difference between the monkeys was the stress. So it's like, you look at these people who focus so much, some obsess over what they eat and the amount of exercise and don't have this and don't have that. And they totally forget being stressed out all the time, it may be the worst health factor in your life. It must be addressed.

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The CEO of Pfizer made, I think, $30 million last year. That was his take-home pay, which I think is one of the reasons why. I mean, just Pfizer in general and these vaccine companies, we're all very skeptical of them now. Not all, but many of us are very skeptical because we don't feel like we've been given the truth.

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Later, we're going to be joined by one of the most fascinating men in media right now. His name is Brian Johnson. You probably have seen his promo on Netflix. He's leading the Don't Die movement. I mean, I think we know how that turns out, but he would say we don't. He has personally taken some extreme measures to try to live up to his movement's name.

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There was an extraordinary moment where he showed up at the Trump White House on Black History Month on the celebration. And Trump, who, you know, he is still pro vaccine and he introduced him like, yeah, CEO of Pfizer. And the community wasn't having it. You know, somebody on Twitter pointed out or X Trump led a populist movement, but he doesn't control the populace.

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They still have their own feelings on certain issues. And Pfizer and the vaccines are one of them. Look at this.

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Trump gets it. He knew, but his most loyal followers were not having it.

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I wanted to round back to a question about the vaccine because Cheryl Atkinson, a former CBS News journalist, she has a podcast and a show also. And she previewed an interview she's going to be doing on March 2nd with a doctor whose name is Dr. Ryan Cole, who is sounding the alarm on some of the effects of the COVID vaccine. And the following soundbite grabbed my interest. Take a listen here.

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That's extremely creepy and disturbing. And, but not, I believe, I believe him. I mean, a good friend of mine who's in public health, who's a lefty, was saying, Meg, we're hearing a lot about these clots and the embalmers. And she's like a pro, you know, she was definitely pro-vaccine and the whole bit. And even she was like, I'm not, I'm not taking any more. I'm hearing more about these.

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And now you hear this guy say it out. I mean, what, what are we supposed to do? If our blood is getting clotty, what... Like, what do we do? Drink more water? Have an aspirin? I don't get it.

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And if you watch this Netflix documentary, it's crazy the way he's living. But is he crazy like a fox? Is he going to outlive us all? And does he have some helpful tips where we could be maybe less extreme, but maybe instead of living forever, we get an extra 10 good years? Yes. We will talk to him second hour. First, though, we start with a close advisor to Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

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That's one of the protocols for preventing dementia too. It's like, okay, you, you may have the gene, whatever, but if you minimize the number of toxins in your life, you're giving yourself at least the best chance possible of avoiding it. That's what RFK has been saying about vaccines and autism that he can't prove a

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direct causal relationship, but that it may be one of several toxins that overwhelm the system in young children. And like the more of those that you can remove, not necessarily making a judgment on the vaccines for anybody, but the more toxins you can remove from your child's diet, the better. This is the road we're on. Final thoughts on whether we'll get there.

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And maybe you too. Hopefully you will be elevated to one of the top teammates. It'd be great to see you there, Dr. Haseem Malhotra. Thank you so much for being here.

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It's one of the privileges of this job to be able to talk to people like that. I hope you enjoyed that as much as I did. I know it's scary, but we have to talk about it. And then by the way, for what it's worth, that Dr. Young, sorry, Cole on Cheryl's podcast did say drinking more water is beneficial on the clotting front. Go to metabolicreset.co for more from Dr. Asim.

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This is a follow-up to a story we brought you a couple of weeks ago when we had U.S. Senator Tommy Tuberville of Alabama here. Coach, we talked about the fact that the Senate... was not bringing the protection of women and girls in sports act to the floor. Watch.

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as RFKJ takes over at HHS. Dr. Asim Malhotra is the co-founder of Metabolic Reset. It's an online group to support your metabolic health. The doctor has been on this program before, and we talked about... his thoughts on things like your LDL cholesterol and how this may not really be the be-all end-all when it comes to predicting whether you're going to have a heart attack.

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Tech millionaire Brian Johnson has been making headlines for years over his extreme anti-aging routine where he spends two million bucks a year trying to live forever. His motto is don't die. I accept. Great. He goes to bed at 8.30 every night. He eats a vegan diet with dinner at 11 in the morning every day, though he's open to red meat, but it's just not for him.

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He takes over 100 pills or supplements a day. And in his quest, he has tried things as odd as swapping blood plasma with his teenage son and he, Brian, giving his own plasma to his 70-year-old father and injecting a donor's fat into his face. He's also had controversial gene therapy, having to fly out of country to get it. As you can see, his appearance has definitely changed over the years.

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Look at this. On screen right is the closest to today, and on screen left is how he used to look as recently as, I don't know, six, seven years ago. He is now the subject of a Netflix documentary, you've probably seen it promoted on Netflix many times, called Don't Die, the man who wants to live forever, where he walks us through his protocol that he calls the blueprint. Watch.

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fascinating to meet you. I watched the whole thing. I'm riveted. I love the challenge. I wish it were possible. Do you, let me ask you this with that. Do you actually think it might be that you won't die at all or just, you know, you're looking to extend your lifestyle or lifetime beyond what now we consider possible?

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You've gotten all sorts of criticism for having money and going and having gene therapy in Honduras that the average person could never afford. My view is good for you. If you're willing to make yourself a human guinea pig in a way that could save lives down the line or extend lives, why wouldn't we be celebrating that? You're not saying everybody must do it.

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You're not saying I recommend it for all of you. You're saying this is what I'm doing and this is why I'm doing it. And I'll share with all of you the results I get, which I think is actually pretty laudable. I mean, has the feedback been mostly good or 50-50 on controversial and good?

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And it was a fascinating episode. He is a cardiologist. Asim, welcome back to the show. Great to see you.

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Yes. All right. So here's a little bit more from the documentary on some of your routines in this soundbite. You're discussing them with your communications director, Kate Tolo.

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I love the time that we had together before, because it really takes something that's a very scary number to most people, which is that LDL score, and gives people a new way of thinking about it. You know, you can talk to your own cardiologist, but you are a cardiologist, and you were making some really interesting points about how we've been ruled by that number for too long.

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Oh my gosh, I'm exhausted just thinking about it. I'm sure you've been asked this question before, but where is the time for fun?

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Mm-hmm. That's very interesting. Okay. So can we talk about some of those protocols? Some of them are a little bit more mainstream. I mean, I have a red light that I use and I love it. I think it's really made a nice difference on my skin. I have an infrared sauna, which does the same thing for your body, the lights that are in the infrared sauna.

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I'm not familiar with the HRV therapy or no, with the light exposure that you do for your eyes first thing in the morning. Is that because you wake up pre-sunrise and what does that do?

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Can you just turn on a light? What about just turning on the bedroom light?

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And we've been totally reliant on these statins for too long, irrespective of whether they cause side effects that can be very annoying to those taking them. So anyway, I'll get you the episode number, folks, so you can go back and take a look at that. But now Asim is advising RFKJ and has got some thoughts on what's happening at HHS and where RFKJ is likely to take the public health industry.

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All right. So this room, this is like reminding me just a couple of nights ago, I was, I was dying for some ice cream. My kids had it. It's like, and it was getting pretty close to bedtime. I'm like, don't do it, Meg. Like you're so close to going to bed. You're going to spike your blue glucose. And I did it, Brian. I did it.

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And you know, it's the worst thing because it does, it raises your glucose. It raises your heart rate. And you know what? I didn't sleep well, but I actually hadn't tied the two things together until just listening to you right now.

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But I am the one who made it available. I bought it. It was organic. I'm sure that makes it healthy.

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No, it wasn't. But I hadn't even really given a lot of thought to just eating, even if it's not sugary, even if it's not.

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If it's a normal meal, it is going to spike probably your blood sugar to some extent and your heart rate's for sure going to go up.

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Are we have something pulled on your sleep habits? Let's watch. Okay. Yeah. Okay. This is your, it's a, it's a full screen graphic showing your sleep stages and you can get this on the ring. Like I have the aura ring and it'll show you something just like this. That's what you're talking about. Like a wearable where it shows your, your REM, your light and your deep sleep is, is important.

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Already we've seen the need for him just this week in the news. The fact that the FDA's top dog left the FDA and went to Pfizer to be hired as their chief medical officer. This is exactly what RFKJ said he was going to try to tackle, this revolving door between big pharma and our public health agencies, which are obviously compromised. Your thoughts on it?

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Do you do the 66 degree thing? What do you do about temperature and setting?

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Mm-hmm. We had a Matthew Walker on the program a couple of years ago. He's a sleep expert. He wrote this great book about it. And he was saying, this is so important that you should, when you're considering travel, when you're considering business, whatever it is that you have to do, your social life, you need to build it all around protecting that eight-hour period.

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If you go to bed at 10, you are going to bed at 10 no matter what, and everything else must move unless it's an extreme circumstance. Like, okay, I had to fly to Australia for whatever. But It should be 1% of the time that you're moving those hours around.

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All right, now here's from the Netflix documentary. Something else that happens in your sleep that you monitor, which is for the guys out there, SOC 24.

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And where can they get the little ring that you were putting on the eggplant in that demonstration? Yeah.

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Okay, wow. I mean, I had no idea. Let's talk about the food because I said you eat vegan, but you're not against red meat, which is what I read. Is that true?

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Okay, so talk to us about, I didn't understand that first qualifier, what you said, you eat vegetables without some long word.

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What would you say is the most important marker you look for on a daily basis? What's the one that you're like, okay, that one looks good. I feel good. I mean, I know you care about them all, but name the top two.

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When you say, like, you challenge yourself to get it down over the course of two weeks, how do you do that?

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I like that a lot. So it's not about exercise. It's about the routine.

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Oh, this is like, well, this is interesting because you're not married. You're 47 years old. You're not married. But I will say like sleeping with another person in the bed is definitely a challenge because it's like you not only have to worry about your tossing and turning given the night, but his too. I know he's joke with Doug.

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I'm like, I'll look at him and I'll say SD, which stands for sleep divorce. If he wakes me up too many times over the evening or, you know, speaking of nighttime erections anyway. Yeah.

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Can I ask you about relationships? Because one of the things that stands out in the Netflix special is how close you and your son are. And it's actually really beautiful. It was kind of almost brought me to tears a couple of times, how much you love him and how close you guys are.

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And it's a little sad because the rest of your family, your other two kids and your ex-wife, it sounds like they kind of disowned you when you left the church, the Mormon church. By the way, I didn't know that the Mormon church did that. I thought that was just a Scientology thing. Is that normal in the Mormon church?

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It's really amazing and it's disgusting. I mean, this woman, she actually went to FDA from Pfizer, then goes to FDA, overseeing public health and the drugs that are gonna be fed to us, and then goes right back out, back to Pfizer. I mean, whose interest is she actually serving here? Yeah.

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Well, you and Talmadge seem to have a very good relationship. He seems like a great kid. He's now in college or at least went off to college as the Netflix special was being filmed. But one thing I did wonder, and without giving too much away from the documentary, you do find a way to create socialization in your life and to have friend groups around you. But love is important.

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You know, that love relationship, that, you know, romantic love. I definitely think it's life extending for a number of reasons. And I wondered about that. Like, of course, I'm sure you want it just as a human, but as a life extending mechanism, how do you feel about it?

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You talk in the documentary about how you'll disclose to these women, there's a lot of things you're not going to like about my lifestyle. And then you've been proven right a few times with women like you're a lot. But I actually think the odds are high that you will meet a woman who's very into this and who will live this life with you in her hyperbaric chamber right next to yours.

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I think you just have to, you know. put it out there more and meet more women. But I hope you do because I think that's a missing piece of your formula. Speaking of the hyperbaric chamber, we've got video of you in it. What's happening here? It's video. It looks like you're in some sort of a, like a carnival ride.

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And the apparatus on your face for listening audience looks very much like what, you know, the people who are older and they can't sleep well overnight, where they put that thing on their face. It looks like an oxygen mask with all these tubes coming out of it. What's happening here?

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And is it, I mean, I think of the hyperbaric chamber, isn't that where they put you when you've had like a scuba accident? Like you have to go in the hyperbaric chamber. So it seems like sort of a remedial measure. Is there any downside to you in using that 90 minutes a day and coming out of it and trying to live your life?

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Yeah. I mean, maybe there'll be some man of the people version where it's just like you take in oxygen an hour a day while you're sitting at your desk and somehow that has a better effect on you. This is how it starts with the big thing. And then it whittles down to the common man and woman like me. And we try some other version of it.

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So again, I appreciate the fact that you're willing to put yourself through this stuff. Stand by. We're going to take a quick break and we'll come back more with Brian Johnson's routines and recommendations. Take them for what they're worth. I think it's actually kind of exciting. The IRS is the largest collection agency in the world.

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Can you just say that again? I don't know if people understand that.

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All right, Brian, forgive me for asking an impertinent question, but the dramatic change in your looks is really something like when you see how you used to look when you were younger versus how you look now. And I hope this isn't insulting, but it's there's been a little bit of a feminization. Do you think that's fair to say? Like you look slightly more feminine to me now. What's that about?

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Is that intentional or is that a result of supplements? What's going on there?

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Wow. Okay. So you mentioned in the, or we mentioned in the setup to this, that part of the routine is supplements. A lot of them from the sound of 53 or 54 pills in the morning. And then another dosage comes. What are, I mean, just give us a feel for what the most important ones are in your routine.

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Yeah, your number has gone down even since the Netflix special. It was, now it's even lower.

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well, I mean, you're working very hard for it. So I would expect it to be pretty darn good. Is there anything, is there any sort of magic supplement we should know about? Like of all the ones, once you've gotten yourself not deficient, this is your favorite.

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You don't need to make money off of this. It sounds like Venmo bought you or you bought Venmo and then sold it for $800 million. So you're good. Yeah.

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What do you mean they get 65% of their funding from big pharma? Like, what do you mean? Why isn't the federal government funding the FDA? Yeah.

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Long live Maha and the revolution coming. I mean, at least now we're starting to pay some attention to this. You've got to be a fan of RFKJ, no?

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What about gene therapy? Because you went down to Honduras, you had them stick a needle in your belly trying to alter your genes. I guess they were kind of adding something that was gene adjacent, but we spent the first hour talking about some of the downsides of the mRNA vaccine, which is gene therapy. I mean, I think mRNA is gene therapy. So people are like, oh God, oh no, but you tried it.

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You do discontinue things that don't work for you. You're open about like, don't this one, no, that one, no. Where do you stand on the gene therapy you got? And is that something you would do again?

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It's funny because most people say, as soon as I hear Honduras, I think you're crazy. Who would get on a plane and let somebody in Honduras stick a needle in their belly? But it's also very brave because you actually did put in the research and the time and you were very careful about which one you were going to take a risk on. And that was how long ago now?

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Mm-hmm. It's so true. All right. Well, you should spend a minute on exercise. You do one hour a day. That's it. I would have thought it would have been like three hours a day.

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Brian, you're fascinating. Thank you for sharing your story with us. I loved the documentary. I appreciate you participating in that. I learned a lot and I think people can take from this whatever they find valuable. I mean, very few people are going to go the full Brian, but it's there for you. If you have a lot of money, then you, even if you have no money, can take bits and pieces of this.

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Certainly the sleep should be something we can all try to tackle. Brian, thank you. Thank you so much for all the information.

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100% tonight. And I'll get back to you. I'll let you know how it works.

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All right, all the best to you. Fascinating, right? Like, why not? Why aren't more people doing this? That's a real question. In modern day America, we have so many AI tools and other great tech things available to us. And yeah, to me, a lot of this makes sense. It's extreme, but it makes sense. Anyway, love to hear your thoughts. Megan at megankelly.com.

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The way we eat, the toxins that we ingest on a daily basis, the way we poison ourselves with virtually everything that's all around us, and then a public health system that gets rich off of chronic illness and federal regulators who are supposed to be looking out for us who actually are on the take to big pharma and industries like that, more interested in padding their own pockets than they are potentially in helping the rest of us, or at least that's how it looks.

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I mean, I don't know this Patricia Cavazzoni, but she was the director of the FDA's Center for Drug Evaluation and Research from 2020 through this past January. She resigned just ahead of Trump returning to office. And now where does she go? Chief medical officer at Pfizer.

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Well, we can report exclusively now that the bill will, in fact, hit the floor. It's expected to hit tomorrow. All GOP senators are expected to vote yes. We'll see about the other side of the aisle. They've got to get through the cloture vote first, which is where they vote on whether they should have a vote. That's where the Democrats can stop it.

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Yeah, but I tested positive for an autoimmune condition, though it was undiagnosed or unspecified. Which one?

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Well, I asked the rheumatologist. No, I asked the rheumatologist. I said, do you think this could be linked to the fact that I got double-shotted by Pfizer, I had both of the vaccines, and then I got one booster? And in New York, you couldn't travel. You couldn't do anything unless you prove it was just ridiculous. I wish I hadn't done it, but I did.

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So I got that third booster, first booster and third shot total. And within a month, I got COVID. It was right when the Omicron version started to circulate. So within a month, I both had the booster and then COVID. And And then I had my annual physical and it showed up. And I then got sent to a rheumatologist and I asked her, do you think this, because it was unspecified. It was like, which one?

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Beekeepers Naturals products are also available at Target, Whole Foods, Walmart, CVS, and Walgreens. Six words rocking the federal workforce. What did you do last week? The Saturday email initially came with a deadline of 11.59 p.m. Monday and a warning from Elon Musk. Failure to respond will be taken as a resignation.

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Some departments like the FBI, Homeland Security, and the Department of Defense told employees not to respond. The Doge guidance was subsequently loosened, deferring to cabinet heads on how to best handle each department. Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt with a further clarification yesterday afternoon.

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Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt provides some clarity to the Doge What Did You Do Last Week email confusion and announces a major change to the White House press access.

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President Trump expressing support for the email, commenting on it from the Oval Office on Monday.

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In her briefing, Ms. Levitt saying many workers have complied with the request so far.

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According to the Congressional Budget Office, the federal workforce is made up of 2.3 million employees, so more than 43 percent have responded. administration shaking up the press pool, the president is trailed around by a press pool of reporters from varying legacy media outlets, the Associated Press, Reuters, NBC, ABC, CBS, Fox, New York Times, Washington Post.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Wednesday, February 26th, 2025, and this is your AM Update.

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They fly on Air Force One with him. They get to enter the Oval Office, the smaller areas that not everyone can fit into, a separate, more exclusive group than what you see gathered in the briefing room. From there, they send updates to the rest of the media. The AP was recently banned from the pool because of its refusal to acknowledge the renaming of the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America.

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The AP was not banned from the briefing room or the White House premises. It just lost its highly exclusive spot in the pool and promptly sued, alleging a First Amendment violation. On Monday, a federal judge sided with the Trump administration, refusing to temporarily restore the full AP access. A hearing is scheduled for March 20th.

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In the meantime, Caroline Levitt yesterday announcing sweeping changes to how the pool reporters will be chosen.

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Media reveling in chaotic GOP town halls, using the scenes as proof of bipartisan backlash against Doge. But there's more to the story. And a Texas border rancher killed by an improvised explosive device near the border, who authorities say is behind the deadly blast. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update.

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Ms. Leavitt says the five major TV nets will continue coverage on a rotating basis, but aside from the TV outlets, streamers will now be included, along with more local radio hosts and others who have previously been denied access. The goal, according to the press secretary, is to broaden out White House coverage, more closely aligning it with modern media consumption.

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However, typically it is the press, not the president, who that decides who will handle pool coverage. The legacy media was not happy. Peter Baker, chief White House correspondent for The New York Times, harshly criticized the move, posting to X, quote, having served as a Moscow correspondent in the early days of Putin's reign.

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This reminds me of how the Kremlin took over its own press pool and made sure that only compliant journalists were given access. Even Fox News White House correspondent Jackie Heinrich wrote, quote, This move does not give the power back to the people. It gives power to the White House.

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White House Correspondents Association President Eugene Daniels releasing a statement that reads, This move tears at the independence of a free press in the U.S. In a free country, leaders must not be able to choose their own press corps. President Trump, flanked by Secretary of Commerce Howard Lutnick and HHS Secretary RFKJ, signing a new slate of executive orders in the White House last night.

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One aimed at imposing price transparency on health care costs. One looking at foreign versus domestic copper supply in America. and an executive order to strip security clearances from law firms associated with the Jack Smith cases against Donald Trump. Amid signing the orders, the president announcing a new initiative his administration is looking at called the Gold Card.

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President Trump saying the card will not grant citizenship, which would need to involve Congress, but it will be a path to citizenship, though how remains unclear. Later today, the president will hold his first cabinet meeting of the second Trump administration. Elon Musk will be in attendance. Coming up, a contentious town hall in a deep red district captivated the media.

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Evidence of bipartisan backlash against the Doge Boys or something else. And a Texas border rancher killed by an improvised explosive device near the border. Who authorities say is behind the deadly blast? Coming up in just a moment. The IRS is the largest collection agency in the world. And with April 15th fast approaching, it's more aggressive than ever.

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Don't let the IRS control your future. call 1-800-958-1000 or visit tnusa.com slash Megan. That's tnusa.com slash Megan. April 15th is just around the corner. Act now before the IRS acts first. A local Georgia town hall over the weekend garnering significant media coverage.

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Georgia Republican Congressman Rich McCormick, who won about 65% of the vote in his district, faced significant backlash from his constituents angry about Doge cuts, a sample of what it sounded like.

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Other GOP officials reportedly experienced similar confrontations. MSNBC went wild with the story, running multiple segments.

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The problem? They haven't quite captured the whole story. The Washington Free Beacon reporting, quote, George Soros-funded groups Indivisible and MoveOn were at the center of the demonstrations. Both groups launched national mobilization efforts targeting the Trump-Musk agenda and Trump-Musk coup. The organizations provide resources for members, directing them to local town halls.

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One prominently cited operative the media mentioned in reporting on the Rich McCormick Town Hall in Georgia, Maggie Goldman, a self-described Democrat and political activist, reports the Free Beacon. On Facebook, Goldman shared write-ups of the town hall, writing, We were on fire! Most of the reporting failing to mention the left-wing activists behind the town hall outrage.

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A Harvard-Harris poll published Monday shows 72% of voters actually support existence of a U.S. government agency focused on efficiency initiatives. That same poll says 60% of voters think Doge is helping make major cuts in government expenditures. President Trump's overall approval rating is at 52% in that poll compared to 43% who disapprove. Democratic Party approval at 36%, a record low.

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The Washington Post reporting on conditions at the migrant detention facility in Guantanamo Bay as Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth spends the day touring the area. The Post, citing three people held at the center, says detainees are subjected to humiliating and invasive strip searches and prolonged periods in isolation. Asked about that reporting, Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt responded.

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Secretary Hegseth toured the facility yesterday afternoon, where he was once deployed while in the Army National Guard. receiving briefings on base operations. In a post on X, Mr. Hegseth calls the naval station the front lines of the war on America's southern border. Approximately 200 illegal immigrants were deported back to Venezuela from Guantanamo Bay last week.

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Two killed, including a Texas rancher and one other injured in a blast caused by a suspected cartel-planted IED on the Mexican side of the border near Brownsville, Texas. A 74-year-old rancher killed, along with a non-U.S. citizen. The explosion occurred earlier this month as the rancher drove his car.

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The Texas Agriculture Commissioner, Sid Miller, issuing a statement calling for extreme caution along the border. Miller urges those in the agricultural industry to stay vigilant, remain aware of their surroundings, avoid dirt roads and remote areas, and refrain from touching unfamiliar objects that could be explosive devices.

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Late last week, the Trump administration designated eight cartels, including Tren de Aragua and MS-13, as terrorist organizations. That allows the government to freeze cartel assets, penalize anyone aiding the groups, and justify military action. A week ago, the New York Times reported the CIA is increasing surveillance drone flights over Mexico to monitor cartel activity.

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The cartels operate multibillion-dollar industries, most notably drug trafficking. Human trafficking, including sex trafficking and border smuggling, also a big moneymaker for these vicious gangs. Yesterday, the administration reported a 15-year low in illegal border crossings, no doubt a major financial blow to the cartel's bottom line. That'll do it for your AM Update. I'm Megyn Kelly.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Kelly, welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. We begin on the subject of George Clooney, who is busy trying to look 30 years younger than he actually is with weirdly dyed jet black hair, trying his hand on Broadway.

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You know, like most of these Hollywood people, MBD, he doesn't have a grip on the facts and he hasn't, but he's spoken out about many news stories in an effort to sway public opinion. And, and probably the one that comes to mind next after Biden was the Breonna Taylor case. down in Kentucky, where he's from.

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So he came out after these officers executed a so-called no-knock warrant, though they did knock, and they went into the facility, this apartment, and this woman, Breonna Taylor, was shot and killed as they had a shootout with her boyfriend, who was in the hallway and shot first at cops. Her boyfriend shot first at cops, who had announced themselves in any event.

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he spoke out about it and said her name was Breonna Taylor and she was shot to death in her bed by three white police officers, which wasn't true. Breonna Taylor was not asleep in her bed. She got up too and came out in the hallway and was standing next to her boyfriend, Kenneth Walker, and As the officers announced their presence, knocked six times and then resorted to a forced entry.

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This guy, Walker, admitted that he fired the first shot and he hit. He hit an officer in the femur. The guy almost bled to death. Her ex-boyfriend was up to his neck in drug deals and she was seen on tape with this guy. going to retrieve packages with him, going to a trap house and so on. The media wants you to believe she was creaky clean.

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George Clooney wanted us to believe she had absolutely no connection to anyone or anything nefarious. And that while she was asleep, completely innocent in her bed, three white cops just executed her because she's That was the implication. Very clear. He was wrong on the facts. He was wrong on the implications. But that's what the Hollywood knee jerk reaction is to news like that.

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Apparently, he ends the whole thing with a video montage featuring, as the show closes, yours truly and Elon Musk doing a, quote, Nazi salute. Okay. Because Elon Musk and I are the dangers George Clooney fears. Not the propaganda that was pushed on us for four years by his favorite leftist so-called journalists. That President Biden was fine, that these were all cheap fakes we were seeing.

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And this guy now feels the need to lecture us about truth and integrity in reporting the facts.

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Right, without doing any homework to look into it. Of course, the subject of Kentucky came up with this loudmouth Patti LuPone, and he had to mention the Confederate flags. That's the first thing that came to his mind in discussing his home state is the Confederate flags that he sees when he goes back to visit his parents in Kentucky. Nice. That's yes, because that's what Kentucky is all about.

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When you think Kentucky, you think Confederate flag and the Confederacy. I mean, that's his mindset. I really do believe this guy's obviously his his career is waning. His biggest days are behind him. I'm convinced he married this Amal Clooney just because he wanted to make himself seem like a more serious person.

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So he found some human rights lawyer that would legitimize him because I guess he didn't feel that way with the professional wrestler. And now parades around Hollywood like he's some sort of dignitary, like he's had some ambassador work under his belt. It's it's not true. You actually have to study. I'm glad he went to Darfur. I'm glad he went to Sudan.

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But I mean, the fact is, George Clooney must not know anything if he doesn't know that I'm a journalist. I mean, truly, like not to toot my own horn, but like I think literally anybody who watches the news regularly in America would know that and would have some idea of some of the highlights of because they have gone everywhere in certain instances.

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So this is George just being, I only watch CNN or MS, I'm above it all, but I am in a position to lecture you lowly American losers, especially the MAGA folks on what you need to be a good informed person. So good luck with that and your crappy play. Okay, moving on to other items in the news. Let's talk about Pete Hegseth, who is in day whatever of an ongoing firestorm.

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It's been building for a while, but it's getting, you know, I don't know if it's at its apex now or if we're about to get to the apex, but it's climbing. Where he fired these alleged leakers. He accused these three guys. I mean, you know, the Pentagon and Pete signed off of it.

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These three guys at the Pentagon of leaking material that would have included top secret information to NBC News about attack plans in Panama and said, we've gotten our guys. We feel satisfied. We're going to continue our investigation. But, you know, I'm satisfied these are the people involved. They've all denied it.

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And then, I mean, was the subject of a barrage of bad press every day thereafter. That happened on Friday. It had this guy over in the comms shop who I guess they really didn't love and he didn't want to be number two in the shop. And I guess that's all that was available to him. In any event, he left. He wrote a scathing piece in Politico, which is not exactly where right-wingers run. Don Jr.

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disavowed that guy and said, he's not part of our movement. Don't believe this guy. And then the other two or the other three At least one of them sat down with Tucker Carlson and said, this isn't about my alleged leaking, which I didn't do. This is about my position on Iran and being more dovish. The other two haven't really spoken out, I think, other than deny that they're leakers.

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Or for the four years before that, that President Trump was a Russian asset. But propaganda that would dare to defend anything done by Donald Trump. That's all propaganda you see. Any defense of Trump is the dangerous propaganda of which he speaks. That's a violation of truth and integrity in media.

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And now the narrative is building like everywhere because there's not like a strong MAGA media, you know, online and the digital lane, you've got MAGA supporters, but there's not like a publication like the Journal or the Post or the Times that's pro-Trump, where you can kind of go to hear the MAGA defense. So you've got the Journal ripping on him. This morning, I listened to this podcast.

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Sometimes I listen to Potomac Watch, which is the Journal editorial board people.

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Ripped him to shreds, right? Chaos, chaos, chaos. And it's just really too much chaos he has to go, which to me seems like... Well, you can't fire somebody because of chaos. We have to see if the chaos is real and what caused the chaos and then determine whether that's on him, right? In any event, you can see him twisting.

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So far, Trump is saying that he's standing behind him, but for how long remains a fair question. MBD, your thoughts on it.

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I mean, I can report that he's not the decision maker, however, I can tell you that.

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And we don't know, it could be that like one of these guys is the suspected leaker and the other two have shrapnel wounds. You know, like I have no idea, but you're right. I haven't been able to determine like what did the other two have to do with it? Caldwell seems to be the face of it.

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And I'm not sure what the relation... It sounds like these three knew each other and were friendly, and were friendly with Pete, too, which is, to your point, about this might be about... Or might have at least started with some sort of internal personality clashes or power struggles.

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By the way, one of Clooney's favorite news anchors, not for nothing, is Chris Wallace, who shut down any discussion of Hunter Biden's ties to Ukraine or China at a presidential debate as entirely irrelevant and off limits. That's his fave.

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Is that is that more neocon people? Because it's very interesting to watch the factions because Caldwell goes on with Tucker and says, what's what really was behind my termination is I am dovish on Iran. Do not think we should be bombing Iran through Israel or any other way. And now you have people who would like us to bomb Iran. Like, is Pete so bad?

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So our pal Georgie got wind of the fact that this show mocked him for trying to lecture anyone on journalism, especially given the timeline on his own disclosures about Mr. Biden. Refresher, he hosted a fundraiser for Biden on June 15th, in which Mr. Biden could barely walk or talk.

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We just don't know what they know. You know, if, if some evidence comes out that they actually were funneling top secret information to NBC news, they'd have to be fired. Like I have no idea whether that's coming, but that would, I'm just saying, for example, that would be a no brainer and we don't know, but it certainly appears that

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some faction of these four that comms guy Elliot is his last name or these three accused but denying that they are leakers are are leaking to the press right now because Pete's on the other end of a battering ram since they got fired on Friday it's like the New York Times had a long hit piece politicals had repeated hit pieces NPR is reporting that they're looking for a new uh Pentagon chief but that's one anonymous source and NPR is not exactly known for its Trump world exclusive so

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Yeah, seriously. If I saw that from like Fox News, I'd pay attention. But yeah, I don't until I don't really know about the NPR sourcing there. I want to play this for you, Rich. Vice President Vance weighed in on Hegseth just this morning. Here's what he said.

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His appearance was so alarming that it was in the news for two weeks after, as it was clear he had to be escorted off stage by Barack Obama, remember? A debate was raging in the news right then about whether Mr. Biden was fit to be president, never mind for a second term. And Clooney said nothing, absolutely nothing.

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The recruiting numbers are good. They're very good, Rich. But look, you and I both know that they always say they're standing behind the person until it's never it's never 80 percent support.

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So it's like almost meaningless to play those soundbites and all in all fairness. But at least publicly, Monday and Tuesday now, I guess Monday and Wednesday, we've had direct soundbites from the president and vice president saying they are fully behind Pete.

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I mean, I'll say this, MBD. He this second signal text chain was reportedly with Pete, with his brother and his lawyer, both of whom are Pentagon employees now and his wife, who's not and some other collection. And I don't know who they are. OK, it's I'm told that what's on there was declassified, like that he didn't share any classified information. But let me say this.

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Where was this leftist freak out when Joe Biden had Jill Biden at cabinet meetings sitting at the resolute desk with his chair, his jacket on the back of her chair? She shepherded him around to every official function. We have no idea whether she was secretly our president, but she absolutely was at cabinet meetings. They didn't care at all.

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Then came the disastrous presidential debate on June 23rd, and his calls grew steadily louder for Joe Biden to drop out, but he refused. That's when Clooney finally came out with an op-ed on July 10th, admitting to some of what he had seen a month earlier. He only spoke up when he saw the Democrats electoral prospects swirling down the drain.

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I don't think Susan Rice and Michelle Flournoy are going to be on the Defense Advisory Board for much longer. Trump, as we all know, has had his hands full. But I'm going to make a bold prediction that they shouldn't get too comfortable in their seats. Go ahead, Rich. What were you going to say?

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Whoever it was, like if it was one of these guys or if it was somebody else that leaked that story to NBC News with, I mean, actual, that the Pentagon had been asked to draw up attack plans for Panama. is going to jail. That person's going to prison. I have no idea who it is. But forget the leak that Elon Musk came to the Pentagon and got a briefing. Forget all the other stuff.

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That report, whoever leaked to the NBC News reporter, is probably going to jail. So I do believe that in any Department of Defense, they would get to the bottom of who did that. It shouldn't be too difficult. There are lots of ways to find leakers. It's just a question of whether they will, and I guess what cooperation they're going to get from their suspects, whether it goes beyond these three.

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But now he wants full credit for speaking truth to power and is even lecturing other Democrats for not doing their part. You know, some in my party weren't telling the truth, he said in an interview. In any event, I guess we heard his thin-skinned Hollywood feelings here on the show because these big stars, they're not very good at taking criticism, you see.

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All right, I'm just going to be honest. I don't think that was that great. The first half was solid and right on. And then it seemed to me he was a little nervous. He struck me as nervous, which you don't normally see with Pete and certainly somebody who's on TV as often as Pete has been. And so this is totally my speculation, but it made me feel like,

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Not that they have him on the ropes exactly, Rich, but I feel like he knows he's embattled with the voice going up and getting super defensive toward the end. That, to me, more than anything else, Telegraph, he might be a little worried here.

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Yeah, I say like still totally rooting for him. I think he probably will survive this unless there's other some other big shoe to drop. Like we had leaks. There was an investigation. They tell us they found the leakers. Those guys deny it. But that's what the Pentagon says that they are. And then a barrage of negative press accounts about Pete hit the news.

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I don't think that makes a fireable statement. defense secretary, not in Trump world. I don't think, I think Trump's going to understand what's happening right now. And if now if there's ongoing problems, if this becomes chronic and it's just like a distraction, then he'll turf him because he's not afraid of firing people. But I don't think we're there yet. I'll just wait to see what else.

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I do believe other negative press will be coming, and we'll see what it is and how it's handled. I mean, it's so weird to be getting your Trump updates in Politico and the New York Times. I mean, it's just ridiculous. Who are these people? Who turns to them? Okay, anyway, moving on. Did you catch the Larry David piece, obviously, on Bill Maher?

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He's starring in a play about Edward R. Murrow because Clooney fancies himself a journalist, you see, and has lots of thoughts on how journalists need to do journalism. Like he does it mainly, you know, like stumbling upon the biggest story of the decade that a sitting president is mentally infirm and ought to be 25th Amendmented right out of office and then burying it.

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This is a couple days old now, but we haven't talked about it on the show, and it's just amazing. So he pens a piece in the New York Times, an op-ed, called My Dinner with Adolf. It comes on the heels of Maher's dinner with Trump. He doesn't name Maher. It's very clearly about Maher.

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They're surrounded by yes-men, managers, agents, PR folks who tell them that their every idea is brilliant, every thought a treasure. Nothing but profundity coming out of George Clooney's mouth. Maybe that'll give me an invitation to one of his swanky Hollywood parties.

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In part, it reads, imagine my surprise when in the spring of 1939, a letter arrived at my house inviting me to dinner at the old chancellery with the world's most reviled man, Adolf Hitler. I had been a vocal critic of his on the radio from the beginning, pretty much predicting everything he was going to do on the road to dictatorship. No one I knew encouraged me to go. He's Hitler.

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He's a monster, in quotes. But eventually I concluded that hate gets us nowhere. I know we couldn't change his views, but we need to talk to the other side, even if it has invaded and annexed other countries and committed unspeakable crimes against humanity. blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

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Uh, I joke that I was surprised to see him in a tan suit because if he wore that out, it would be perceived as unfur like that amused him to no end. And I realized I'd never seen him laugh before. Suddenly he seemed so human. Here I was prepared to meet Hitler. The one I'd seen and heard the public Hitler, but this private Hitler was a completely different animal.

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And oddly enough, this one seemed more authentic. Like this was the real Hitler. The Two hours later, the dinner was over and the Fuhrer escorted me to the door. I'm so glad to have met you. I hope I'm no longer the monster you thought I was. I must say, mein Fuhrer, I'm so thankful I came. Although we disagree on many issues, it doesn't mean that we have to hate each other.

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And with that, I gave him a Nazi salute and walked out into the night. This is unbelievable, Michael. Unbelievable. So, I mean, I'm allowed to remember when you weren't supposed to use Hitler to make your points, you know, but OK, I guess we're past that. Your thoughts on it?

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And also where he goes into a Holocaust museum and steals the shoes that are on display of Holocaust victims because he needs new shoes. He's been... Irreverent, certainly when it comes to the Holocaust and obviously Trump.

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So he and Broadway's biggest and oldest bully, Patti LuPone, remember when she screamed at a ticket-holding audience member for not wearing a mask? Watch.

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Alan Dershowitz has been railing about Larry David for calling him out for defending Trump in the first impeachment trial for years now. You know, Alan, he holds a grudge. And so, yeah, he basically screamed at Alan in Martha's Vineyard, like 7-Eleven, for doing this. He's not a tolerant guy. I don't know what that should mean.

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And Larry David digs in saying basically, but you met with Hitler. We don't want to hear about the softer side of Hitler. That's really what he's saying here without it ever even occurring to him. What if what's happening is he's not Hitler. And Bill Maher is starting to realize that. Like, might there be secret option number two? Stay with me here, Larry.

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That Trump actually doesn't annex countries and hasn't killed 6 million people and might actually be somebody who could really help the country out. I said it. He's too far gone. The TDS is too advanced. It's a stage five TDS situation. I'm sorry, but oh well. Okay. Stand by. Rich and MBD, stay with me. Quick break first. Okay.

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So you're thinking about what to get that person who has everything, that annoying person who is going to get it from you. Maybe you are that annoying person who has everything and you just happen to appreciate the finer things. Well, if you want something really special, I have got the answer for you and I'm not kidding around. Hot salt, not any hot salt. Okay. Exquisite, savory heat.

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Now you're interested. So let me tell you about Firecracker Farm. It's a wonderful little family company that makes these amazing products. Hot salt. A delightful spice-infused sea salt, to be specific. It has the perfect amount of heat and amazing flavor that makes everything taste better. Word's getting out and people are loving it. They almost ran out.

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The last time we did the ad over the Christmas season, they're like, people couldn't get it. So get there while it's getting good. That is because it's made with love. Everyone wants it. They can feel it. They can taste it. It's a small batch family operation. So supplies are limited, as I mentioned. Comes in sleek, stainless steel push grinders. Plus, you can take them anywhere.

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When you run out, they have refills. A little too spicy for you? Toughen up. No, you just mix it in with some regular sea salt to tame the heat. But you will not need to. It's blended to perfection. Honestly, it's the best thing to happen to food since fire. That's the truth. What are you waiting for? Go to firecracker.farm right now. Use the code MK at checkout.

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That will get you a special discount. Firecracker.farm, code MK. Get some hot salt before it's all gone. You'll thank me.

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Okay, that's more Hitler talk from Chris Matthews and Jim Acosta. Welcome back to The Megyn Kelly Show. Back with you now, Rich Lowry and MBD, Michael Brendan Doherty of National Review. Become an NR Plus member today to get all of their content. I love NR Plus. I don't agree with everything they write, but I love them all. All except for one, and I'll keep it to myself.

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Anyway, it's no one on this show. So yeah, more Hitler-esque talk, this time about the El Salvadoran prison. That's why he's doing it, because he's going to ship them overseas and kill them. I heard that phrase come out. They don't point out that most of the people who have been shipped there so far are El Salvadoran.

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And if not, they're Venezuelan gang members who we could put in prisons here, too. And by the way, any illegal who gets arrested... and has to face deportation and a hearing, has to go to jail. That's what we're supposed to be doing. We haven't been under Joe Biden, but you're supposed to hold him. Unfortunately, you're only allowed to hold him for 90 days. And then you got to let him roam.

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And then they're never seen from again. But what Trump is doing is saying, these are people who have been deported. We believe that the vast majority of these people, if not all these people, have already been deported, like ordered removed. They had their due process. And now he's doing exactly that. Now, what's going to happen to them after a year in this prison?

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I don't know, because, you know, you can't hold them forever. But I haven't seen any assurances that's not the plan. I'm not sure, Rich, but where do you stand on on the El Salvadoran prison and in general on what Trump's doing with the immigration reform?

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She's an angry woman, very angry, like so many leftist women. So she and George get together and they start navel gazing on stage about themselves, of course, and their vaunted profession and how bad, how just terrible the media is and had the following exchange.

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No, we're not. MBD, one interesting fact. Rich mentioned that Abrego Garcia, he's the one, MS-13, an accused wife beater. And he's the one Chris Van Hollen went over there to meet with and was photographed with, with the margaritas in front of them. And he, oh, is this set up? Oh, you know, they set me up. Well, if you're too dumb not to understand propaganda, too bad on you.

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In any event, here he was in 2017. Chris Van Hollen, the Heritage Foundation tweeted this out and we verified it. It's real. This is 2017, Chris Van Hollen. Shame on President Trump for tearing apart hardworking immigrant families. We should be focused on MS-13, not scholarship winners. How times have changed. Now he's dancing the waltz with a guy and sipping the margaritas, or so it would appear.

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Yeah, more and more we're hearing this. And Trump made some comment about like, you know, we've... It was like a reference to possible American criminals being sent to this prison. And the left, of course, that just fed right into their belief that, yeah, Rachel Maddow is going to go. He's just going to start deporting people he doesn't like. He wasn't talking about deporting Americans.

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He was talking about prison space. And like, it'd be great if we could house some of our worst prisoners in a place like this so we didn't have to worry about them. But this keeps getting brought up by the left as like proof he wants to ship Americans, you know, law abiding Americans or any other kind of Americans, you know, without due process to El Salvador.

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That is the only proper response, Rich Lowry. Thank you for knowing exactly what to say.

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What's crazy, Michael, is that you've now got... You know, you had the Supreme Court weigh in twice so far on the Alien Enemies Act, which is Trump's best tool, he thinks, toward getting these people out of here and getting them out fast. And the first one was... Hmm. This statute is reviewable, but only in small part.

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And the second was, and, and to say, if you want to bring a challenge under it, you have to file a habeas proceeding, meaning an objection to whether you qualify as like an actual gang member under his order in the jurisdiction where you're being held. So, you know, not in front of DC judge Boasberg, but in that case, it was in Texas where they had the deportees. And then, um,

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Secondly, they just waited on Friday night to say, stop all deportations under the alien alien enemies act until we can figure out what's going on, which was very sweeping. Seven to two. Alito went off the next day and not a good ruling for Trump, but not a permanent. That's like, just stop. Until we can address this case on the merits and it's working its way up.

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But what you got in the meantime was this decision from this Judge Sweeney, Judge Charlotte Sweeney, a Biden appointee who just ruled.

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that she's, first of all, she's certified a putative class, meaning she's given the initial blessing for this whole thing to be on a class action track for all alien enemies, act deportees to be part of a class and said they have to get at least 21 days notice before they You can remove them. So she said the Supreme Court didn't say how much due process is enough.

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But according to this judge, we have to for 21 days, we got to let these people stick around. This is the worst of the worst. Can you imagine what's going to happen when we get to the ones who aren't additional criminals?

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Here's what she said. The government must provide both petitioners, in this case, this is out of Colorado District Court, and the provisionally certified class of individuals they seek to represent, meaning all deportees under the Alien Enemies Act, with a 21-day notice to the individual detained pursuant to the act.

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So anybody who's going to be deported pursuant to the Alien Enemies Act and Trump's proclamation to get a 21-day notice Must state the government intends to remove the individual pursuant to the act and the proclamation. Must provide notice of a right to seek judicial review.

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Must inform the individuals that they may consult an attorney regarding their detainment and the government's intent to remove them. Must be written in a language that the individual understands. I mean... These are people who literally crossed our southern border illegally, committed crimes against American citizens when they got here.

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He actually thinks I'm objecting to something he put on his show about me. I have no idea what you put on your show about me. I couldn't care less, sir. I was mocking you for trying to lecture journalists on how to do journalism based on your own failure to speak truth to power. That's what you, you failed. You only did it when you knew your candidate was going to cost you up and down the ballot.

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In some cases, resisted Tom Homan when he tried to arrest them. And now, I mean... This is unbelievable. Each one gets 21 day notice and hearing what's next, like court appointed counsel. So we're paying for their defense and all the way through to the U.S. Supreme Court. Each one of these guys is going to appeal up to the U.S. Supreme Court on the worst.

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This is why this is why we really are headed for a showdown here, Rich. Where if we get more rulings like we got from our Colorado friend, Charlotte Sweeney, a Biden appointee who hasn't done anything in her very short career to distinguish herself as a foreign policy expert or an immigration expert, but now thinks she's co-president is really they're tempting.

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But here's the one exception. Here's the one exception. So Trump expanded expedited removal to go beyond just the southern border and the initial encounter. But if they claim asylum, then you do have to give them an asylum.

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And so Mr. Clooney is not quite sure what yours truly has done to be a journalist, which surprised me not at all. Not at all. Why would he know anything about the journalism career I have had? Absolutely none of my stories held any interest for George Clooney. Of that, I have no doubt.

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you know, on that, that same front MBD, as I mentioned, the Supreme court stopped the deportations under the alien enemies act on Friday night at one in the morning, they stopped them. So when's our hearing? When, when is this resuming? When are we going to know what Trump can do?

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The commander in chief, the duly elected president of the United States and, and Mike Davis, very smart lawyer with the article three project just tweeted out the following. Dear Commanding General John Roberts, when does the president of the United States have your permission to resume his military operation to deport the most dangerous terrorists in the Western Hemisphere?

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Or do you want the president to ship them to the Chevy Chase Country Club? I mean, now we're talking.

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Here is another thing. Speaking of the Supreme Court, you guys probably saw this case went up yesterday involving Maryland parents who it's a group of Muslims, Christians and Jews who said we've had it with your weird hypersexual LGBTQ propaganda being shoved into our children's curriculum in the pre-K through five years. Pre-K. Pre-K. And...

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You see, I've spent the past 20 years interviewing people like Suzette Kelo, who owned the Little Pink House that got seized by her local government, declaring government domain. A decision that went all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court, like the cake baker in Colorado who didn't want to bake a gay wedding cake because it violated his religious beliefs.

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I didn't watch the argument yet, but most court observers who I trust think the parents are going to win this, which would be amazing. It will be a very historic ruling if they do the restoration of parental rights. Another, another thing Trump ran on by the way. Um, and this could be a ruling that could have far ranging implications. Here's a sample of how it went.

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This is the attorney for the schools, Montgomery County schools. His name's Alan Schoenfeld, uh, getting the business from Trump appointee justice, Neil Gorsuch.

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They're going down, and it's going to be a glorious thing, Rich, when they do go down.

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That's all they're asking for is an opt-out, this coalition of parents. They're not saying you have to remove it from the curriculum. They're saying we just want an opt-out. And by the way, where are all the Muslim advocates? Where's Rashida Tlaib? This is a group. The name Flanders are Muslim. A lot of Muslims in this community saying this is totally not kosher. Great point.

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I guess kosher is the wrong word. But they're not okay with our religion in promoting this stuff. Not one of the representatives is out there. It's all about Palestine for her. She won't she won't advocate for them. We'll give another one. Here's Justice Kagan. Even Kagan, who, you know, I think technically she's straight. We talked about this another time.

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Oh, and by the way, also the gay couple he offended. People like triple and quadruple amputees back from Iraq and Afghanistan who the Hollywood class looked down upon, actually loathed, judged and treated like scum because they didn't like those wars. Not like the Ukraine war. No, not at all.

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Anyway, but even Kagan seemed a bit taken aback by this going out to the very, very young kids. It's not 18.

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Justice Alito, too, also noted that this case involves extremely young children, as young as five, noting that as kids become older, they're better able to make distinctions about what a teacher is presenting. But when they're that young, it's a very different story. It's really up to adults to filter out what's inappropriate for them. Michael, I...

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I don't think this is going to be one of those cases where Roberts goes soft need or Amy Coney Barrett goes soft need. I think it's looking like a six to three decision from what I've read so far.

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What did you do to help the hundreds of men I featured on my Fox News show year after year, George, to help find housing and help for them, to help them rehabilitate their lives? I didn't see you. I see you went to Darfur. That's great. What about our guys? Because I never saw you at a Tunnel to Towers fundraiser, at a gathering for our Navy SEALs, and I've been to many of them. I never...

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So well said. Yeah, the books are nuts. There's What Are Your Words? One character in the book says, my pronouns are like the weather. They change depending on how I feel. Somebody says, sometimes I use all the pronouns I can think of. Another book, Prince and Knight, grades K through five. A young prince and a knight fall in love after battling a dragon together. I mean, okay.

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Just like when we were kids, right? Yeah. I mean, like- They battle the dragon and then they hop in bed together. That's not how the story ends. Born ready, a mother tells the story of her transgender son, Penelope. Again, K through five. Another book called Love Violet about a same-sex crush between classmates.

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Uncle Bobby's wedding where a niece is concerned about her uncle who's engaged to another man. Won't spend time with her anymore. Look, I'm just going to end with this. One of the other news sources that George Clooney loves is 60 Minutes.

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And let me just show you, as I say goodbye, how 60 Minutes, when they had Moms for Liberty on, who's been objecting to these kinds of books in our curriculum, K through 12 education. This is how the vaunted 60 Minutes, George, handled it.

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saying absolutely nothing for weeks on end. And then only after that president humiliates himself on the national stage at a presidential debate and then refuses to step down as the entire Democrat Party watches its electoral chances up and down the ticket, go swirling down the toilet, finally decides to write an op-ed in the New York Times saying Joe Biden is not up for the job.

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Unbelievable. Now it's gotten so bad. And it was when they sat with him two years ago that this case has gone all the way up to the U.S. Supreme Court and not a party is arguing it isn't happening. It was not an outrage politics measure. It is not a rare mistake. It's policy that they're openly fighting for and fighting to prevent opt-outs from Scott and George.

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So pay attention to some better news sources because that one failed mightily. Unbelievable. Is it not, Rich? It's incredible.

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Abigail Fine and just screamed from the next room. Oh, my God. We're up to here. But the AM update is doing really well. So people are enjoying it. So we do it. Anyway, great to see you guys.

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saw you at any of the public appearances that I've attended where our injured soldiers are just back from war seeking a helping hand. I guess you never saw the interviews I've done of the Medal of Honors winners. They weren't very interesting to you, like Dakota Meyer.

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Okay. Up next, Dr. Dale Bredesen with the latest on how you can prevent Alzheimer's. Yes, it's preventable. Just ask him. These days, it feels like nothing surprises us anymore, but not in a good way. The headlines are heavy, the future feels uncertain, and so much is out of our control.

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Thank you so much for having me. They found a 143% increase in diagnoses for those between 55 and 64, a 311% increase in diagnoses of Alzheimer's for those between 45 and 54, and a 373% increase in diagnoses for those between 30 and 44. So listen up. You need to know what you can do to stave off Alzheimer's. And my next guest, a medical doctor, says you can. He's been on the show before.

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He didn't want to hear his story about the overwhelming sacrifice he made for this country, both on the battlefield and then back home, where had it not been for a guardian angel looking over him, he would have taken that gun, it would have had bullets in it, and he would have taken his life in a truck one day. Did you miss that one, George? You didn't make that story into a movie, did you?

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His name is Dr. Dale Bredesen. I respect him immensely. And he's back with a new book called The Ageless Brain, How to Sharpen and Protect Your Mind for a Lifetime. Dale, welcome back to the show. Wonderful to see you. Those stats are really alarming. So is it actually a growing problem or we're just getting better at diagnosing?

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Okay, we've talked before about some of the preventative measures, and I want to go back over some of them now, but I'm going to lead with the most controversial, but maybe promising. You tell me, can Ozempic help stave off Alzheimer's and dementia?

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What effect on Alzheimer's do statins have? Because I have been hearing all sorts of info about they're good. No, they're bad.

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No, it's been mostly Mark Wahlberg who shows any interest in our troops. I guess you never saw my interview with detransitioner Chloe Cole on what the gender cult has done to our young girls, or with Peyton McNabb after she suffered permanent nerve damage from a trans volleyball player, or with Patriot Barbie, a.k.a.

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Let's go through, again, the book is called The Ageless Brain by Dr. Dale Bredesen, who I completely respect and support. The diet, I mean, diet, exercise, supplements, and toxins, I think are like the big categories. I've heard you say dairy is not great.

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Now, you're saying like Greek yogurt every day is not good for preventing Alzheimer's because it's like so good for doing so many other things for you.

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By the way, folks, this can all show up. I have an aura ring on here. They're not paying me. I paid for this. But all that information Dale just mentioned comes to me every morning on this aura ring. You can get a Fitbit. You can get an Apple Watch. But all that stuff is very easy to get your arms around to find. On exercise, it's a certain kind of exercise, is it not?

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Like I've been told that the best aerobic exercise for somebody trying to stave off Alzheimer's includes at least a couple times a week interval training.

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Lindsey Graham, who explained to our audience how the draconian lockdowns and intentional ruination of her business in Oregon during COVID led to her finding herself at the U.S. Capitol on January 6th.

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This is all in the book. You can learn more about that oxygen therapy. It sounds kind of fun to be on the treadmill with your little mask on. I'll do it if it'll help my brain. Again, the book is The Ageless Brain. Dr. Bredesen, of course, also the author of The End of Alzheimer's and many amazing, great books. Okay, so a little bit of sleep. We talked about that. A little bit of diet, exercise.

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Now, the detoxification of one's life is very important. It just took a nice step forward today with RFKJ banning some of the food dyes, not all of them, but he got it the first eight. It's a start. Nobody's even been paying attention to this stuff. But what are the big ones?

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No, you had no interest in stories like that that actually probed the minds of regular Americans and found out why they did the things you only had an urge to demonize in your elite Hollywood circles. That's not the kind of fearless journalism you're talking about. I could go on, George. The school and mass shootings I've had to cover with tear-stained faces all around me.

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Unfortunately, as I mentioned- How do we get those out of our- I mean, like you talk about air pollution and microplastics in the air, just like an air filter? Yeah.

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You got to have your house tested for mold and not the air test, the like Swiffer test where you let the dust build up for two weeks. You wipe the dust. You send the dust rag in. It's the air test is not worth the paper. It's printed on. I went through this personally. We just went through a very expensive renovation of our beach home because it was riddled with mold riddled.

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I learned that from the first time you came on in 2022, but now we've resolved that. Then there's Lyme disease, which a lot of people openly have, and sometimes there's a latent form of it. You can clean that up. The point is that many people don't want to know, Doc. They're like, if I get it, I'm going to get it. But what you've been saying for so many years now is...

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There really are things you can do to stave it off. And if you would just pay attention now before you're symptomatic or when you just maybe have a couple of symptoms, you really can potentially turn this aircraft carrier around.

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So people need to know that Dr. Bredesen does not need the money from this book. He's been doing very well. He's in high demand, but he's refreshed this book and put it out there. I mean, it's a new book, but he's refreshed his teachings from the end of Alzheimer's, and it's available right now. All this stuff is in the book. It's called The Ageless Brain. I have it. I highly, highly recommend it.

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It's an easy read. He writes in a way that you can consume and digest, and then it's a reference for you if you want to figure out what's a plasma exchange, what's your PK protocol, all in there. And I know I speak for many when I say I'm so grateful to you, Dr. Bredesen. Thank you so much for writing the book and coming on and talking to us.

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The women who told me their stories of domestic abuse or sexual assault or rape. The women who accused Trump, George, you should have liked that one. And those who accused Joe Biden, too. Wonder if you saw that one. It also got buried by your favorite media stars. I guess these stories never made it on your radar.

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Oh, the one and only. I mean, everybody loves him. Dr. Mark Hyman was on. He loves Dr. Bredesen. There's like everyone else. And then there's Dr. Bredesen when it comes on to the subject of preventing Alzheimer's. The book, again, is The Ageless Brain, How to Sharpen and Protect Your Mind for a Lifetime. We're back tomorrow with Glenn Greenwald. We'll see you then.

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You were too busy in your hundred million dollar Lake Como mansion or at one of your five other homes, running about the stage, pretending to be a journalist who speaks truth to power. Now you tell us in that soundbite you even got shot at one time. And even that turns out to be a lie consistent with your others. You've told the story many times.

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You need to be more careful if you're going to lie like this on camera. You once had a gun pulled on you by a kid in Darfur more than 20 years ago. Only now with Patti LuPone, who you accurately deduce is a moron who will never check. Did you change it to you actually got shot at? That didn't happen. George, this is not the kind of truth and integrity we want in our profession.

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So no, it's no surprise that Clooney has not seen much of my work, not my six presidential debates, not my sit downs with Trump, Putin, Modi, Netanyahu. His world is the world of entertainment and cosplaying human rights advocate on the arm of his wife. You know, the one who followed the professional wrestler he used to date.

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Maybe in the next decade, he'll catch a show or two and catch on to the kind of journalism that has made this show consistently one of, if not the, top news shows in the country. Over two billion views and news some call relentlessly factual, George. Joining me today, Rich Lowry and Michael Brendan Doherty of National Review.

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You've heard about tariffs recently, plus inflation, supply chain disruptions. It's a lot. But there is a silver lining that most people missed. President Trump specifically exempted gold and silver bullion from the tariff talk. The administration preserved the ability to diversify into precious metals.

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That's not journalism, George. It's cowardice, followed by naked partisanship. You're not fooling anyone. So now he's starring in this Broadway show. By the way, what's the matter, George? Are the Hollywood roles getting a little hard to come by as you age and get decidedly more smug and self-congratulatory? I'm just asking.

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Yeah, that's the thing, MBD, as you know as well as I do, that George Clooney probably consumes news mostly on MSNBC. The reason he liked Chris Wallace is because Chris started to openly lean much more leftward in his interviews, etc., And he doesn't have any interest, George Clooney, in the Suzette kilos of the world.

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He has zero desire to find out what the covid lockdowns did to regular Americans and what might have driven somebody to show up at the Capitol on J6. Right. Like those stories are beneath George Clooney, as does he feel the rest of us are.

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And chooses to finish this show by lecturing the audience on how journalism ought to be done. Speaking as Edward R. Murrow, he warns about the ongoing struggle for truth and integrity in the media. Truth and integrity. About the potential for the media to be manipulated and used for propaganda.

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And what's amazing to me is that if he's going to take the time to lecture American journalists on how to do their job, that now's the time he chooses to do it. Right, Rich? Now, once again, democracy dies in darkness. That crew's back. They went totally silent during the four years of Joe Biden. And it's not like he didn't do things to excess. It's not like he didn't ignore our laws.

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It's not like he didn't, you know, open the Southern border, you know, like all those things. He had absolutely no interest in lecturing the press on how to do their job, even though they went, they went totally silent during those years. It's only now that Trump's back in office that he feels the need to remind us of our responsibility to truth and integrity.

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These artificial dyes are found in many desserts and products marketed to children, sugary cereals and fruit snacks, but they also show up in places you might not expect, like pickles, farm-raised salmon, and granola bars.

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Multiple studies linking some of these dyes to behavioral issues in children, including hyperactivity and attention problems, raising serious concerns about their widespread presence in so many foods, especially those targeted at children. The latest move, part of a broader campaign to clean up the U.S.

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food supply and identify root causes of chronic diseases and neurological disorders affecting Americans at unprecedented rates. Earlier this month, Secretary Kennedy bucking the establishment narrative, calling autism an epidemic. Mr. Kennedy acknowledging that genetics may play a role, but genetics alone cannot account for the sharp rise in autism diagnoses. Now one in 31 children.

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the secretary promising answers by September on what else may be driving the surge. And that'll do it for your AM update. I'm Megyn Kelly. Join me back here for The Megyn Kelly Show, live on SiriusXM Triumph Channel 111 at noon east, on youtube.com slash Megyn Kelly, and on all podcast platforms.

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Mr. Hegseth telling Fox News the attacks against him will not prevent the administration from accomplishing badly needed reforms within the Pentagon.

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Secretary Pete Hegseth goes on offense against leakers with the Pentagon. And in media, looking for a win against the Trump administration.

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The Pentagon currently conducting an investigation into a series of leaks, including military plans relating to the Panama Canal and a planned briefing for Elon Musk allegedly regarding China and Ukraine. Amid preliminary results of the Pentagon's investigation, three of Secretary Hegseth's top aides fired and escorted out of the building on Friday. One aide, Senior Advisor Dan Caldwell,

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a longtime friend of Secretary Hegseth's, going back to Mr. Hegseth's work at Concerned Veterans for America. Mr. Caldwell telling Tucker Carlson on Monday he believes he was fired not for leaking, but because he opposes military intervention with Iran.

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The Trump administration is currently negotiating a new Iran deal with the president repeatedly threatening if diplomacy fails, all options are on the table.

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We can confirm, as Mr. Caldwell told Tucker Carlson, that his phone was not searched, nor was he subjected to a polygraph before termination. However, there are other methods of ascertaining leaks, checking who printed which documents, for example. The Pentagon's investigation is still ongoing. No sooner had these three been fired from the Pentagon than the hit pieces on Pete Hegseth began.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Wednesday, April 23rd, 2025. And this is your AM Update.

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The U.S. Supreme Court hearing arguments over mandated LGBT curriculum for young children. And RFKJ announces the FDA will phase out artificial food dyes. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update. One in two adults have high blood pressure and many don't even know it. That's a ticking time bomb. But here's the good news.

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For example, the New York Times attempting to revive the Signalgate controversy with reporting based on anonymous sources of a second signal chat in which the secretary allegedly shared sensitive information with his brother and his lawyer, both of whom work at the Pentagon, and with his wife, who does not. The White House making clear they think these hits are payback against the secretary.

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Secretary Hegseth addressing head-on his longstanding ties to Mr. Caldwell and the other recently fired aides.

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Steve Bannon, longtime Trump advisor and senior counselor to the president under Trump 1.0, telling The Megyn Kelly Show, while Secretary Hegseth's focus on rooting out leakers is understandable, it risks pulling attention away from key Trump 2.0 priorities.

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Coming up, could the Supreme Court be ready to side with parents suing over mandated LGBT curriculum for young children? And RFKJ announces the FDA will phase out artificial food dyes. As President Trump is settling into his new administration, one of the top Democrats in Congress aiming to undermine the Trump agenda is Democrat Senator Dick Durbin of Illinois.

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You can learn more for yourself at guardyourcard.org, and you could consider telling your senators to stop Dick Durbin's government takeover of your credit card before it's too late. The U.S. Supreme Court on Tuesday hearing arguments from a group of Maryland parents seeking to exempt their children from public school lessons involving LGBTQ-themed books.

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The parents, who are Muslim, Christian and Jewish, from one of the most Democrat-leaning counties in the U.S., suing Montgomery County Superintendent Thomas Taylor. The dispute beginning in November 2022, when the school district introduced a set of LGBTQ inclusive books into the English language arts curriculum for pre-K through fifth grade students.

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Some of the books in question, Pride Puppy, a story about a dog lost at a pride parade, Love Violet, about a young girl overwhelmed by her crush on a female classmate. Jacob's Room to Choose, about transgender students who lead a campaign to make their school's bathrooms gender neutral. Each of these texts accompanied by bright and colorful pictures appealing to small children.

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Initially, parents were given the choice to opt their students out of lessons involving this curriculum. But in March of 2023, the school board reversing course, announcing families could not opt out and parents would no longer be informed even of when their children were exposed to these materials.

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Lawyers for the school board arguing an opt-out policy, quote, gave rise to three related concerns, high student absenteeism, the infeasibility of administering opt-outs across classrooms and schools, and the risk of exposing students who believe the storybooks represent them and their families to social stigma and isolation.

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The conservative justices on the high court pressing the lawyer for the Montgomery County School District on why opt-out programs are not feasible, quote, from Justices Brett Kavanaugh and Samuel Alito.

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Attorney for Montgomery County Schools, Alan Schoenfeld, telling the court the school board tried to implement an opt-out program but found it increasingly complicated.

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Justice Katonji Brown Jackson, a progressive appointed by Joe Biden, appearing to side with the school board.

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Mr. Baxter, for the parents, arguing that under existing Supreme Court precedent, the inability to opt out of the lessons places an unconstitutional burden on parents seeking to adhere to their religious beliefs.

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Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt addressing the case from the White House briefing room on Tuesday.

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Restoring parental control in education, a cornerstone of the Trump administration, following years of DEI-driven curriculum that the administration argues is antithetical to traditional American values. The Supreme Court's decision expected in June.

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HHS Secretary RFKJ and FDA Commissioner Marty McCary on Tuesday announcing plans to phase out FDA-approved artificial food dyes from America's food supply within two years.

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They shouldn't be feeding it to the rest of us. In the last days of the Biden administration, the FDA begrudgingly moving to ban the use of red dye number three. The FDA citing a statute known as the Delaney Clause prohibiting FDA authorization of a food or color additive if it has been shown to cause cancer in humans or animals.

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Two studies show red dye number three causes cancer in male rats exposed to high rates. The FDA at the time saying, quote, the way that red number three causes cancer in male rats does not occur in humans. Under the leadership of Secretary Kennedy and Commissioner Marty McCary, the FDA now taking a different approach.

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Dr. McCary describing the administration's philosophy in an exclusive interview last week with The Megyn Kelly Show.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. President Trump has continued a relentless pace since taking office just 48 hours ago. On day two, he ordered the closure of all federal DEI offices, yes.

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She just keeps introducing it into the national conversation, has led to a lot of commentary, mostly on the right. But To his credit, enter Bill Maher on the matter on his show this past Friday. And here's a little bit of that.

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You got two former Democrats on the show today, but now independents, who started to tell the MAGA story through moving ads, the best ads of the entire campaign. Nicole Shanahan was RFKJ's vice presidential candidate, his running mate, and she hosts the Back to the People podcast.

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It's so crazy. I mean, I hear you say on behalf of all white people, our time is not over. It's not just like it's not over for Asians or brown people or black people. It is the American people's time. That's it. Irrespective of your color, you've got a shot. Work hard. Try harder. Look at J.D. Vance. He has zero, zero family advantages other than love and a grandma who really believed in him.

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He had a drug addled mother. His father abandoned him. He's now our sitting vice president. It doesn't it's there's no it's over. That's Ibram X. Kendi thinking that, you know, you're you're saying some people believe in where the answer to pass discrimination against one group is current discrimination against another group. That's morally wrong and it is illegal.

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My white children have just as much of a shot and have absolutely no burden on them because of ancestry that as a black child does down the road, you know, or in the inner city, even somebody with less financial advantage, which is actually a greater hill to climb. It's just absurd. And finally, Trump is saying, no, we're not doing that. We're not letting.

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You know, in particular, white boys and white men be the current, you know, payors for all of America's prior sins. That's totally insane. We're not doing it anymore. Here's one more. Keeping going on the things he did yesterday, ordered federal buildings worldwide to stop flying the pride flag, which the left had turned into a de facto second national flag around the world. That's exactly right.

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Good. I'm glad it's coming down. I have zero tolerance for any flag other than the stars and stripes on any federal building. That's it. This is not a time to promote anybody's agenda. No one's. Not women's. Not LGBTQ. Not blacks. Nobody. That's it. It's America. That's what we used to be about. Our shared purpose. Our shared love of country. Go look at Nicole's ads if you don't believe me.

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And then here's what I wanted to ask you about. He launched the Stargate project. This is the big, quote, infrastructure announcement he made yesterday. A collaboration with Silicon Valley, just so our audience knows, you used to be married to the co-founder of Google, aimed at cementing America as the global leader in emerging AI technology. You talked about how you've done some AI stuff.

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Now, can you talk about this? Because the AI thing... I don't totally understand it. with plans to pour up to $500 billion into Stargate, and it's supposed to create 100,000 U.S. jobs, build data centers around the country, and it's going to ensure that we remain ahead of China in the AI arms race, which I don't really understand.

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But I do understand Elon Musk weighing in to say they don't have anywhere near that much money. It was kind of interesting because Elon's his best tech friend, but he came out and kind of poured cold water over this whole thing. So what's your take on it?

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Well, I mean, let's not forget the mRNA vaccine was developed under Trump. Operation Warp Speed was Trump's. And I'm not sure what lessons he's taken from the vaccine injuries that started popping up and they were snuffed out by the media and they were ignored by the Biden administration, not to mention Big Pharma.

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But now we have a new sheriff in town, and we'll see whether Trump's on board with that. I think he takes credit for the vaccine. He feels proud of the vaccine. I don't know how much he is going to listen to vaccine injury stories around mRNA. But it felt to me like Larry Ellison was kind of ahead of his skis on that. Like, I'm into arms race against China. I want to win against China.

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I don't know if I'm into... like experimental cancer vaccines that have the same Russian roulette effect. And I'll just say one other thing about it, Nicole, which is one of my biggest reasons for believing in the vaccine during COVID was I naively thought it was

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If there's some significant injury rate with a vaccine like this, that there'll be 700 million doses in the United States, there's no way big pharma won't cure it, won't put everything they have into rectifying the damage they caused, right? There'd just be too many Americans suffering. They'll have too much money. They have all this immunity.

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They will want to cure the problem that they helped cause. And I was totally wrong about that. We're still in the complete denial phase.

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So how are you feeling just in the wake of everything that's happened this week?

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what the risks are. Yeah. I've, I've completely lost my own trust in big pharma completely. And I think that's appropriate. Um, RFKJ of course is not on board with, I think this kind of thing, he won't be running the new AI venture. Ideally, if it gets confirmed, he's going to be running the national institutes of health. Um,

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And he doesn't yet have a confirmation hearing scheduled, they say, because they're asking for more information. You know, they want to have all their ammo against him before they dig in. But we're starting to see a preview of some of the attacks they're preparing. They're not all from Democrats, though mostly. But Mike Pence's group, they're very against him because they're very, very pro-life.

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And, you know, RFKJ's more pro-choice. Though, you know, there's a real question about how much he's going to be weighing in on that in the new role. I think he understands the Trump administration is pro-life. Anyway, here's what Mike Pence said. RFK has expressed support for conspiracy theories involving vaccines and Wi-Fi. That's where he starts. I was like... Is that true? I'm open-minded.

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So I went to my doctor. My doctor said, get the vaccine. In no way is he new agey, right? I think he would laugh at the conversation we just had, frankly, about mRNAs. He's like that. But he said there are studies suggesting that a certain amount of at least EMF,

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you know, like radio frequent radiation frequency coming out of like your outlets, your devices, and yes, your wifi can be disruptive and potentially deeply problematic, especially to children.

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He, and he sent me the studies that are being circulated within sort of the mainstream medical community, but now it gets reduced Nicole to a weird conspiracy theory that this weirdo RFKJ is pushing and a reason he can't be confirmed.

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on this one. you know, this sort of EMF thing, this RF thing, like the wifi and the number of plugs and the number of electronics in your house. This is the article here. Here's the abstract in part from what he sent me from the NIH. Okay. And this is, this is in part how it reads EMF exposure or, um, electromagnetic fields. That's under like a certain size.

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He says, uh, it reads a developing child's brain is vulnerable to EMF radiation. Thus their caregivers concerns about the health effects of EMFs are increasing. EMF exposure is divided into two categories, extremely low frequencies involving high voltage transmission lines and in-home wiring and radio frequencies, RFs involving mobile phones, smart devices, base stations, wifi, and,

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and 5G technologies. The biological effects of EMFs on humans include stimulation thermal, non-thermal, the latter of which is least known, among the health issues related to EMFs. The most important issue is human carcinogenicity.

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According to the International Agency for Research on Cancers, evaluation of the carcinogenic risks to humans, these ELFs and RFs were evaluated as possible human carcinogens and goes on from there. My point is, Mike Pence doesn't have a medical degree. Mike Pence doesn't have a lifetime acting as a lawyer to look into things like this, like RFK does.

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But Mike Pence thinks that he can kill RFK's nomination because of the life issue by sneaking in these other issues to make him look like a kook. And you tell me, Nicole, how many other people are trying to do that to him? They just dismiss him out of hand as a nutcase instead of saying, What if what he's saying is actually true?

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Right on. Already you're getting groups like the outgoing FDA chairman saying, look, calm down. Because if you think it's going to be easy to reform a group like this, think again. Maybe 10 years, maybe 20 years down the line, but But if they put into place some of these changes they're talking about on like preservative free food, you're going to have a farm shutdown.

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And according to a memo sent yesterday, all federal DEI employees will be placed on paid leave by 5 PM tonight. Good luck making use of those absolutely useless empty degrees. Plus, the crackdown on the border crisis is already in motion. That, too, is equally uplifting. Border czar Tom Homan said this morning they've already got 308 illegal migrant criminals in custody.

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You're going to tank the economy. There are very powerful interest groups that will be at play here no matter who's running FDA. And, you know, right now we think it's going to be Marty McCary, who's great. And RFKJ, I'm sure, will have a lot of input and so on. But what do you make of that pushback, Nicole, that it's like... calm down. It can't be done. Washington is Washington.

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Well, I want to tell the audience here's here are this is Charlie Kirk posted this this morning. It's a list of the executive orders we got yesterday, among other things. He writes as follows. On day two, the president restored merit based hiring at the FAA. Yes, that's important.

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I want to know more about that. I don't know about the weather modification and then the cloud seeding, and I would like to. So let's put a pin in that one and make another date because it sounds like you have a lot of expertise on it, Nicole, as so many other things in the Maha movement.

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Thank God that Trump won and RFKJ won and we won and that I know you'll have a major voice on a lot of these issues. Thanks for being here today.

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Yes, me too. For the first time in so long. And you know, we haven't even scratched the surface. You know, RFKJ is determined to get those big pharma ads off of TV, which entice people into buying medication or pushing for medication that they don't necessarily need, which can cause other problems. It's just, we've been taken advantage of so much by big pharma.

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I realize they've done some good, but man, they've done a lot of bad too. Let's be honest. Nicole Shanahan, everybody. Coming up, Sasha Stone is here. Don't miss Sasha. Here's a shocking truth about New Year's resolutions. Whether you want to lose weight, improve your energy, or beat that embarrassing post-meal bloat, nothing's going to work if your gut is not healthy first.

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JustThriveHealth.com, promo code Megan. Here's to your best health with Just Thrive. Sasha Stone was on this show back in 2022 when she first detailed her political shift from the left.

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The people who govern the planes in the sky ending an insane Obama era push to put travelers lives in the hands of incompetence hired for diversity reasons. There should be no DEI hires anywhere, but certainly not at the FAA, in medical schools, in residency programs, anything involving human life. Even the far left must see the insanity of it, whether they do or they don't.

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If the left wants to understand the attraction of MAGA, they need to read Sasha Stone's substack and stop canceling her and listen to her podcast of the same name, Free Thinking Through the Fourth Turning with Sasha Stone. Sasha, welcome back to the show.

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I think I am your number one fan. Like I'm fangirling out right now. No, stop. Truly. I never miss an episode. I encourage everybody to download the podcast. There's something incredibly soothing about your voice and your storytelling. It's a journey. Yes, it's newsy too, but it's not like I'm going there for news. Obviously, I have a lot of sources I can go to for news.

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I'm going there to hear your unique take on the news in like a soothing, entertaining, clever, transformational way. I absolutely love it.

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I'm delighted to share you with our audience because I think they're going to love everything you do just as much as I do. And so let's talk about your backstory. I know we talked about it a bit before, but let's do it again for those who didn't hear that episode because we're bigger now. And a lot's happened since you were last on, as you pointed out, it was a long time ago.

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So just like you're a California girl, right? You grow up like I did in the 70s and you stumble into a career, I think it's fair to say, as a Hollywood critic, as a film critic and somebody who became very popular and sponsored by studios at Awards Daily. That was your website or blog that was very well supported and important.

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I mean, it was beloved by the Hollywood crowd, which is really the crowd that matters when you're doing that kind of work.

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It's stopping today at the FAA. He ordered the closure of all federal DEI offices, as I said a moment ago. He ordered the repeal Of LBJ's infamous executive order, which mandated affirmative action instead of merit-based hiring and federal employment and federal contracting. That's huge.

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Mm hmm. It's shocking and it's upsetting. It does. You know, it reminds me of something I wanted to say. Obviously, I've gotten closer to Team Trump in the past year than I ever had been before. But I I make a point. of never asking them for anything. Like Trump asked me to speak in Pittsburgh and I said, yes. And team Trump asked me to speak the day before his inauguration and I said, yes.

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But I asked them for nothing, nothing. I did not ask them for great seats at the inauguration festivities or ball tickets or anything like that because I don't wanna owe him anything. It's fine if he feels like I've done him a solid, but to do this job, honestly, I cannot owe him anything because then I would feel afraid to criticize him. So I totally get what you're saying.

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If these, if the studios are paying your bills, you start to just bit by bit feel like, Oh God, am I free to say exactly what I want to say? Absolutely.

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Jody Shaw, who I, you know, talked about on the show yesterday. And it takes a very strong person to just say what they actually feel when they aren't rich and they don't have a guaranteed income. And they have people, I know you have a daughter who they need to support and help. So, all right. So your life is going well. You're, you're doing it on your own. You're your own boss.

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And then, and you're big Democrat. And then 2020 seems to be the beginning of the shift COVID. I mean, I would you, is it fair to market like COVID lockdowns and to like the Trump raid on Mar-a-Lago is like two big benchmarks in your transformation. Yeah.

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He prohibited the use of all racial discrimination or DEI at federal contractors and universities receiving taxpayer dollars. Now, let's just pause there. That is wonderful. I don't know how he enforced that. Prohibited the use of racial discrimination or DEI, which is the same thing. It is the same thing. Racial discrimination against whites is illegal.

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So somebody did say that this past summer, right? Because I've been listening to you and I've been listening to you talk about how some friends and some people were abandoning you. They were getting on to the fact that you'd shown up at MAGA rallies. You weren't the Sasha they knew. And then the big takedown, quote unquote, happened this past summer. Was it Hollywood Reporter?

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You're mocking them. It's so obvious that you're mocking them. I was mocking them.

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It's illegal against blacks, against Asians. all the groups. It doesn't make it any better to do it against whites because the country has a history of doing it to blacks. It's just not the way the law is written, the civil laws, civil rights laws. So he's saying you can't racially discriminate at universities that get taxpayer dollars, which is almost all of them.

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I didn't have to tell her all that stuff. They're not out for your best interests at all. No. I mean, with practice, you know, like that was a lesson you learned and then you'll learn more lessons and then you'll get it. Then you'll totally have it.

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No, I can relate to this just in that when we launched this show. The one thing I said to my partner at Red Seed Ventures, Chris Balfe, was don't give me any advertisers who don't have strong spines. I don't want somebody running at the first LGBTQ nasty letter about me saying men cannot become women. And I'm telling you, we haven't lost a single one.

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Not a single advertiser has abandoned us at all over anything we've said. It's, it's been amazing and it's so freeing, right? So I feel like the destruction comes and then like a Phoenix, you will rise out of those ashes. and be better aligned with the people supporting you. And I really think like you got to get ads on your podcast.

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I don't, I don't, I feel like there aren't any, I don't hear any ads in your, but you've got, you, you need to make money this way.

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You need, you need, you need to make money like this. We will pay. I'm telling you, I myself would pay and I pay for almost none of this stuff. So I'm like, I consume so much, but I would definitely pay. And I would certainly listen to a couple of ads to listen to you. You, you got to do it. And I will help you do it. If you want me to connect you with Chris, who can help you do this.

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You can't use DEI at these universities. I mean, Nicole, you know as well as I do, there's going to be a revolt. You can't tell these universities that because they won't listen.

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And I will 100% tell him he has to help you. Yes, you can make money in this lane and you're very talented. You should make money in this lane.

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Yeah. And I want to hear your take on these movies. I think there's such a huge market for people on the right half of the country who would like to hear the straight scoop on what's good, what's not good, what's woke and annoying and not worth our time. You know, could have used your two cents before I spent my time watching Conclave. Anyway. I'm sorry about that. I would 100% tune into that.

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In addition to your political commentary, I would love to hear somebody who I know is sane and not woke analyze these films. And I can tell it's so fun. You have encyclopedic knowledge of films and I don't have encyclopedic knowledge, but I did grow up doing nothing other than watching television and movies.

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That's right. Woody Allen's running around trying to figure out a new religion. And by the way, I saw Woody Allen at a restaurant last week in New York. No way. And he was there with his wife, Soon-Yi. And I have to say, I looked it up. He's 89 now. She's my age. She's 54.

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And I, you know, hashtag goals to be out at a New York city restaurant on a Wednesday at 9 PM when you're 89 walking of your own power, hanging out with friends. They were there with two others. I have to say, I was kind of impressed. I think it's a lifetime of walking in New York that did it. And probably the joy that comes with doing what you want.

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So I thought that's getting what you make of the big controversy over it ends with us.

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Can I tell you something? There's something going on that... So just today, I got my hands on this document that was just filed by Blake Lively's team. Her lawyers went into this California human rights office where she tried to launch this campaign against Justin Baldoni and complained, saying... That they should be shut down.

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Justin Baldoni should be shut down from offering any public defense of these allegations because it's all retaliatory. Everything he does to defend himself, according to Blake Lively's lawyers, is retaliation against her. And truly, it's as if they're saying they can launch whatever public attack they want on him, but he cannot respond or it's retaliation against a sexual harassment victim.

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It's totally absurd. And if it were true, Johnny Depp and Amber Heard never would have had the ultimate resolution that they had in the court of public opinion.

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Now, I mean, I'll show this later because there's also a video that dropped today that totally disproves one of her most salacious claims against him. So her case is falling apart. That's why she's trying to shut him down from releasing further evidence or talking about it at all. And she's basically lost the public war in the opinions. And so she's trying to shut him up.

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It's like, well, she didn't bank on him fighting back and actually winning. All right, but I want to get back to you and MAGA because one of the things I really love about you is... Much in the same way that Nicole Shanahan produced those... Remember the MAGA people video she did? Like the MAGA people in the 1950s, like aliens from space came down and observed the people. That's how you are.

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You're able to describe MAGA and Trump and the movement in... In exactly that kind of way, like zoom out, who are they? What are they about? And I guess as good a place to start on that as any is the J6 pardons, which of course the left is melting down over.

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And it could be used against Trump. It could be used to potentially, as they tried, to impeach Trump so that he could, if they had their way, never run for office again. And to smear all of them, not just all of the Trump family, but all of MAGA, all of the Trump supporters.

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And really, I think the end goal was never let him return to office, which is one of the reasons why it's so incredible he just got sworn in again.

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Yeah. And it was used not only to, I mean, if they had managed to actually convict him on the impeachment, he would have done it. he wouldn't have been able to run again. But when that failed, then they used it over and over in Georgia and at the federal level to try to stop him, to put him in jail so that he couldn't return to power. I mean, they threw everything they had at him.

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And we continue to hear about January 6th. Even before the pardons, it continued to be a theme. Barack Obama pushed it in the last hours of the campaign. So did Kamala. So did Joe Biden. It was their favorite theme. And now, yes, it'll be in the news for a while here, and then it will stop because people have lives to live. I just don't think anyone other than the left is obsessing over J6.

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That was the goal, completely antithetical to the duties of a prosecutor or a public figure who shouldn't be doing that. But we saw that repeatedly when it came to anything, not just Trump, but on the right. They're happy to weigh in and go with guilt before anything's proven. They just don't like it when it's done to their side.

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I mean, what we've been seeing already is a media that remains unhinged, you know, like CNN with the it was a Heil Hitler thing with Elon. We put together just a random mashup of some of the media coverage of Trump's first day. You'll be shocked to see it's it's not measured. It's just for your entertainment. Take a look.

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Mm-hmm. Yeah, well, we've taken a massive step away from that, as you know, and this is the public's rejection. His election is the public's rejection of that nonsense. So I don't know what's going to happen at these universities. That telling them that they are not allowed to use DEI if they receive taxpayer dollars. I just I think they're just going to ignore it.

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is going to learn this lesson, you know, in the wake of the collapse there, the fires and the Democrat policies and ineptitude being outed?

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You know, it's funny because at the inauguration, you saw like Snoop Dogg. He was there after he said Trump was a white supremacist. He'd been ripping Trump and MAGA, a new one, just as recently as like a year, year and a half ago. And he's seen the light. He played at the Crypto Ball, which was the David Sachs ball. He's the new crypto czar. He played and celebrated Trump.

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I saw Vince Vaughn was at the Starlight Ball. I don't remember him ever ripping on Trump, but that's kind of an act of courage for someone as mainstream, right? It's like John Voight was at the Trump rally with me. He's an open conservative. He's been very unabashed about his politics for a long time. I don't know. Vince Vaughn's not really in that category, but he was there.

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Carrie Underwood playing. That was an act of courage, too. Like, I definitely think the dam has broken, at least for the strongest Hollywood types to be able to say they're Republican or they like Trump or they're open minded to him.

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So the question is, how how does that get enforced? You know, does Trump actually pull the federal dollars when we get complaints?

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I wonder if they know that they're viewed as pathetic. Talk about being uncool. It's not just the guys either. You see these videos all over social media of, like, these young, hot women with, like, Trump bikinis, the MAGA bikinis, like, dancing.

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Well, I mean, my feeling on it is, okay, maybe it was intent. Maybe they proved it in an individual case here or there. Maybe they didn't. We'll never know on the BLM rioters because they didn't charge them. They didn't charge the worst of the worst. I mean, Antifa was getting away with violent assaults of civilians, cops, and it wasn't just Antifa.

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It was regular leftists turn after turn, and we'll never know how the courts would have handled them For the most part, if anybody got arrested, they got let right out and then paid reparation damages by their cities who were apologizing to them for arresting them. At first, they said, spare me. I don't feel bad at all. I really don't.

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I have to say, I don't have one degree of horror at the J6 pardons. Not one. Like, If I'd been in charge, I probably wouldn't have pardoned the most violent, but I don't care. I'm not in the least worked up about the fact that they got commutations. I feel like let's move on. And until you're going to go back and charge all those BLMers, spare me. No, exactly.

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Sanity and common sense are returning to America. And today we have two guests who have been tracking the shift in the culture in a way that's beyond politics. Later, someone whose podcast and Substack I absolutely love. I'm her fan. I might be her biggest fan. Her name is Sasha Stone. She was with us a couple years ago, and I listen to her podcast all the time.

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Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Well, all right. I, um, I want to end with this. I have something that I think will be of comfort to you as a Californian. And that is Kamala Harris is gone, but she's not forgotten. And she went out to the LA wildfires as her first post vice presidency act. And I mean, she really, she had a lovely profundity for those of you out there.

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I think this is really going to buoy your mood. Sasha, just take a listen, take a listen.

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Twenty eight. Please do it. Do it. Well, at the presidential level. I mean, I worry for you Californians because if she ran out there, I suppose it's possible she could win as the governor of California, given how blue it is. But Kamala Harris is never going to be president of the United States. Never. Never.

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No, she's proven that time and time again. Okay, so everybody needs to go on the podcast right now and download, just search Sasha Stone and it will come up. Free thinking through the fourth turning and you can subscribe to the Substack and then you email me and let me know what you thought because I think you're really gonna love it. Thanks so much for being here, Sasha.

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Thank you so much for having me, Megan. Thank you. All the best. Listen up, football fans. It's playoff time and it's now or never. Don't miss out on the last few weeks of football action with PrizePix, the best place to win cash while watching the playoffs and to have a little extra fun, especially if your team is already out of the hunt. PrizePix is

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OK, wanted to get to that Justin Baldoni news before we go. As you know, we had Brian Friedman, his lawyer on the show, also my own personal attorney, to talk about Justin's defense. And this thing is getting even more bizarre. So you may remember that one of the key allegations in her complaint against Justin Baldoni was as follows. OK, from paragraph 48 of her complaint.

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She writes on another occasion, Mr. Baldoni and Ms. Lively were filming a slow dance scene for a montage in which no sound was recorded. Mr. Baldoni chose to let the camera roll and have them perform the scene, but did not act in character as Ryle. Instead, he spoke to Ms. Lively out of character as himself. At one point, he leaned forward and slowly dragged his lips forward.

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from her ear and down her neck as he said, it smells so good. None of this was remotely in character or based on any dialogue in the script and nothing needed to be said because again, there was no sound. Mr. Baldoni was caressing Ms. Lively with his mouth in a way that had nothing to do with their roles. When Ms.

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Lively later objected to this behavior, Mr. Baldoni's response was, I'm not even attracted to you. Well, guess what? TMZ has gotten its hands on that video. And you can hear Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni interacting as themselves, knowing that this is all on video and that this is going to be used to create this dance scene. And no such moment is shown. Just watch it. Watch it.

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Okay, there. Okay, so he puts his head in her neck. And says, am I getting beard on you?

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Right. And then says, smells good. And she says, it's my body makeup. That's her big harassment moment. They are playfully... acting for the camera, trying to make it look like two lovers, two people in a relationship are dancing with one another. She's giggling. She's holding his hands.

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They're in, they are not speaking as their characters because the sound was not going to be used in the film, but they are in character in the way, obviously Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni are not choosing to hold hands and nuzzle each other and act in and behave as lovers in front of this room full of people.

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They're doing that because they are in character and they are trying to make it look for the camera like they love each other. She's completely flirtatious with him. He is flirtatious back, but they're talking about their spouses and it's all in good fun. She laughs and She laughs and says, oh, did you get beard on me? She doesn't say, oh my God, you nuzzled me and said that I smell good.

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This is what she's done throughout. She said, he came in my trailer while I was breastfeeding. Well, then he produced the text messages showing her saying, I'm breastfeeding, come on over. Like time and time again, she accuses him of doing something, which then when you hear the full context is an absolute nothing burger. She accused his producing partner of showing her pornography.

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Then they produced in his lawsuit against her a picture of the alleged pornography. And it was a beautiful, artistic, absolutely non-pornographic shot of his business partner and his wife with their newborn baby in a bathtub after a bathtub birth, which an at-home birth, holding one another. You can't see any body parts. You can just see that two people clearly are in a bathtub holding their baby.

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Just here's yet another one. She wants us to believe this is actionable harassment, what we just witnessed there. You tell me whether that's what that looks like to you. Well, so now... I said that they had written to the Human Rights Office in California. Let me correct that. It's to the United States District Court in the Southern District of New York, where she filed her lawsuit against him.

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There's cross lawsuits by each, saying this is all retaliatory. All of his leaks to the media are retaliatory, and asking the court to shut him and Brian Friedman up, saying this must be shut down because they're trying to try this case in the media.

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The only reason this whole thing got started before she filed the lawsuit, she just went to the California Human Rights Office, is because she clearly cooperated with the New York Times to leak the whole thing. Indeed, that's, Brian argues, the reason she went and filed the complaint with the Human Rights Division.

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So that she could then leak it to the Times, so she could start to rehabilitate her reputation, which got smeared because she turned out to be not a very nice person. in the videos released last summer. Now that she's had her shot against him and she's severely damaged him with that New York Times piece and this complaint, which she managed to get leaked, now she wants a complete gag order.

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Now he needs to be shut down to protect her. This is very unfair to poor Blake. Why should Justin be able to release snippets to the media without the full context? That's what she said. That's what she did. She alleged, she alleges that she's a me too victim there. That's absurd.

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And I can tell you that as somebody who's not a Hollywood actress, notwithstanding my very short stint in that cartoon, Bertram. Okay. But I'm just saying this person is not an honest broker. I believe her less than ever. I actually disbelieve her fully now. And they should not be gagged.

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I will happily participate in releasing any further leaks that they have because the truth should be out there. What does she have to fear if she's telling the truth? That's it for today. We will see you tomorrow when the gang from Ruthless will join us and we will get neck deep into the latest smears against Pete Hegseth. They've not given up on trying to stop him.

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It's also illegal. I mean, it's blatantly illegal. You may not hire based on race at all. It cannot even be a factor. That's really clear under the law. We just pretended for a few years that those laws did not exist. And Trump's 100% right. This is unconstitutional. This is unlawful to hire based on race at all, if they even consider hiring.

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A person being black, white, brown, Asian, whatever, doesn't matter. It's unlawful. So they're going to ignore that one at their peril. What he's saying here is we're going to enforce the law. And they're going to have battles, Nicole, because we played this a while ago. I don't know if you remember this case because you're out in California.

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It happened at Stanford Law when Erwin Chemerinsky, who's the dean out there, had a bunch of students who he had over to his home graciously to get together and talk about the law. turned it into a pro-Palestinian protest against him for like no particular reason and really got in his face and the face of his wife.

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So he was in the news and he was alarmed and on his heels at the, he's at Cal Berkeley, sorry. He was alarmed and on his heels about how crazy the DEI has gotten to the point where, you know, these pro-Palestinian protesters couldn't see the awfulness of what had happened to the Israelis.

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Well, he's hashtag part of the problem because Erwin Chemerinsky is on camera saying he's totally pro racial preferences when it comes to populating the staff at UCAL Berkeley. He knows he's not supposed to, but he just keeps it quiet. Here, watch this.

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And she's such a great cultural commentator. She just has a wisdom about her in seeing the forest for the trees. So we're going to talk to her about where she thinks we are. She's also been a victim of the woke mob and been canceled herself as someone who she, too, campaigned for Joe Biden, I say, too, because...

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You know, growing up in a community is the reason that affirmative action fell at universities. They filed that lawsuit saying that. This cannot be, you cannot discriminate on the basis of race in admissions in 2024, it was, and the Supreme Court finally agreed. Sorry, keep going.

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I often reference my friend in New York who campaigned for Joe Biden back in 2020, but who now is probably more to the right than I am. And Sasha's followed a similar trajectory. And Hollywood, you'll be stunned to hear, turned on her. In any event, we are going to start, though, today with someone who played a role in helping put Trump back in office, a former Democrat.

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Yeah. Mm-hmm, and just so destructive. So it's wonderful to see Trump doing this. You mentioned the LA fires. I know you live a little north of that. You're in Northern California, but the debate that's unfolded in the wake of this, and it's ongoing now that Palisades fire is I think 63% contained. And I just heard my pal Janice Dean saying on Fox News this morning, they expect rain this weekend.

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So that's good in the area. We're hoping and praying that's true. But, you know, the whole thing has been a level of incompetence that we haven't seen in recent history. I mean, it's just been absolutely devastating. And the intense focus by the LAFD on DEI and promoting the fact that the fire chief is a lesbian and so are her top two lieutenants, which no one cares about at all.

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Mr. Rubio referencing Senator Van Hollen's previous travel to El Salvador to visit the deported Kilmar Obrego-Garcia, a credibly accused MS-13 gang member in Salvadoran custody. Secretary Rubio also clashing with Democratic Senator from Virginia Tim Kaine over the Trump administration's recent acceptance of white refugees from South Africa.

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Those refugees, citing fears of racial persecution under a South African law, allowing race-based land seizures without compensation. Democrats condemning the policy, accusing the Trump administration of racial bias. Here now, some of that exchange.

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The president of South Africa will visit the White House later today. And that'll do it for your AM Update. I'm Megyn Kelly. Join me back here for The Megyn Kelly Show, live on SiriusXM Triumph Channel 111 at noon east, on YouTube.com slash Megyn Kelly, and on all podcast platforms.

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CNN's Jake Tapper and Axios reporter Alex Thompson joining The Megyn Kelly Show on Tuesday for their first extended interview, promoting their new book, Original Sin.

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The book, citing interviews with more than 200 Democrat insiders and Biden White House staffers, details the behind-the-scenes efforts to conceal the true state of President Joe Biden's cognitive decline, including threatening or retaliating against reporters who dared to question Mr. Biden's mental fitness.

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CNN's Jake Tapper admitting legacy media needs to do some soul-searching over their coverage of the very obvious cognitive decline of President Joe Biden.

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Many in legacy media caving to that pressure or not needing any pressure at all to protect Mr. Biden, ignoring what was apparent to this listening audience for years. President Biden was undergoing significant cognitive decline. your humble reporter questioning Mr. Tapper on his role in the cover-up. It could only ever work if you allowed it, if the press allowed it.

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Some of us tried not to, and some of us were complicit.

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Well, clearly you have a lot of sources. You say you talked to over 200 sources for this book. You have some you could have called and worked.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Wednesday, May 21st, 2025, and this is your AM Update.

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Well, how did the Wall Street Journal get it in June of 2024? And Jake Tapper and CNN couldn't find sources for this story then before he dropped out?

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But you did not put them on when they published that story, which was before the debate.

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Jake, that's what I've been doing all along. One of us didn't miss the biggest story of the century when it comes to presidential politics, and one of us did. Mr. Tapper called the book reporting process humbling, admitting that he should have pushed harder on the Biden White House and revealing he called Lara Trump to apologize for dismissing her 2020 concerns about Mr. Biden's cognitive decline.

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He says it's now time for the corporate press to reflect.

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Mr. Tapper, who moderated the disastrous June 2024 debate that forced many on the left to finally admit President Biden was not up to the job, describing what that moment was like from the front row.

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A New Jersey House Democrat facing charges following an altercation at an ICE detention center earlier this month. New voices in the courtroom. Witnesses take the stand in the criminal case against Sean Diddy Combs, shedding light on what they say really happened. and Marco Rubio battles with Democrat senators in a fiery hearing. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update.

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And then you saw him immediately after you write in the book and he seemed like unaware that something... Did I just see that?

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For years, critics of the Biden administration have questioned who was really running the White House. Original Sin offering the clearest answer yet. reporting that four senior aides effectively ran the country, with President Biden described as, at most, quote, a senior member of the board. Reporter Alex Thompson with more.

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The book facing criticism not just from the right, but from the left as well, including some Biden allies, including former ambassador and Democratic fundraiser Rufus Gifford, who pushed back on its account of a now infamous fundraiser hosted by George Clooney and Julia Roberts.

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According to Original Sin, Mr. Clooney, a longtime friend of President Biden's, was reportedly stunned, stunned, when the president did not recognize him, George Clooney. That anecdote appearing to align with Mr. Clooney's later op-ed, following the June 2024 debate where he acknowledged only after the disastrous debate that he had earlier seen Mr. Biden's decline.

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But Gifford, who attended the event, says the book got it wrong, insisting there was no moment where Mr. Biden failed to recognize Clooney. Mr. Tapper responding to that pushback.

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The full interview with Tapper Ann Thompson, including many new details from the book, is available on The Megyn Kelly Show feed on YouTube and wherever you get your podcasts. On Monday, interim U.S. Attorney for New Jersey Alina Haba announcing two actions tied to a recent clash. between Democratic lawmakers and law enforcement at an ICE detention facility.

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On May 9th, Representatives Bonnie Watson Coleman, Rob Menendez, and LaMonica McIver arrived at Delaney Hall in Newark seeking a tour. Newark Mayor Raz Baraka, a vocal critic of the facility, also showed up. Tensions escalated, leading to a scuffle, the Trump administration accusing the Democrats of storming the facility.

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Mayor Baraka was arrested for misdemeanor trespassing, but released the same day. Body cam footage shows Congresswoman McIver physically engaging with the officers. On Monday, U.S. Attorney Habba dropped the charges against Baraka, quote, for the sake of moving forward, offering to personally tour the facility with him.

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Habba then announcing charges against Congresswoman McIver for allegedly assaulting and interfering with law enforcement, saying she had, quote, given her every opportunity to come to a resolution. Congresswoman McIver firing back, calling the charges, quote, purely political, saying she looks forward to clearing her name in court. On CNN, the congresswoman implying she rejected a plea deal.

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House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries and other members of the House Democrat leadership condemning the move in a joint written statement, quote, the criminal charge against Congresswoman LaMonica McIver is extreme, morally bankrupt and lacks any basis in law or fact.

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The statement characterizing the charges as, quote, a blatant attempt by the Trump administration to intimidate Congress and interfere with our ability to serve as a check and balance on an out-of-control executive branch. President Trump asked about the charges on Tuesday.

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Mr. Combs' former assistant, David James, taking the stand for a second day of testimony. Mr. James worked for Mr. Combs from 2007 to 2009, telling prosecutors he often set up hotel rooms for Mr. Combs. The work involved prepping clothing, a toiletry bag, a medicine bag, food, and drinks for Combs.

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The witness saying the medicine bag typically contained 25 to 30 pill bottles, including ecstasy and Percocet. James testified to frequently procuring drugs for Combs' friends, including cocaine. James would restock items for Mr. Combs, including baby oil, lubricant, and condoms. James said he would ask Combs' security for cash reimbursement for these items.

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held in a Louis Vuitton bag always carried by Combs' security. On cross-examination, Mr. James testifying he was instructed not to submit those personal items for reimbursement, accepting those cash repayments instead, because Combs did not want to have a company record for those items. Prosecutors then calling mail stripper Sharae Hayes to the stand.

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Mr. Hayes testifying that he met Mr. Combs and Ms. Ventura in 2012. According to Hayes, Ms. Ventura hired him while she was using a fake name. When he arrived at the Trump International Hotel in New York City, Ms. Ventura told Mr. Hayes she and her husband, quote, liked to create a sexy scene involving baby oil.

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Ventura allegedly telling Hayes that her husband would eventually enter the room, but Hayes was instructed not to look at him. Hayes telling prosecutors he participated in about eight to 12 of these sessions in total. and that Combs never appeared to be intoxicated. Hayes says the events were typically planned a few hours in advance, and he would be invited by Ventura.

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The defense, clearly trying to show that Ms. Ventura freely participated in these freak-offs, even handling the sex worker logistics. The witness telling prosecutors, quote, going on later to say he never saw filming or violence in any of their encounters. Special Agent Gerard Gannon, the agent in charge during the search of Mr. Combs' Miami home in March 2024, said,

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also taking the stand, telling prosecutors agents found platform high heels, sex toys, baby oil, personal lubricant, and lingerie in Mr. Combs' closet, as well as parts to AR-15 rifles and loaded magazines. Court will resume later today with more testimony from Special Agent Gannon.

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Secretary of State Marco Rubio returning to Capitol Hill on Tuesday for testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. his first appearance since securing unanimous Senate confirmation. The three-hour hearing erupting in fireworks several times. Secretary Rubio clashing with Democrat lawmakers, furious over the Trump administration's America First foreign policy vision.

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Democrat Senator from Maryland, Chris Van Hollen, using his entire allotted time to rip into Secretary Rubio without asking a single question.

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Secretary Rubio defending the administration's foreign policy agenda, including cuts to foreign aid, changes to immigration enforcement, and the overall restructuring of the State Department.

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Yeah. All right. So here's more because he's not done. Klain. And Jeffrey Katzenberg and others tried to get Biden into shape. Two mock debates were organized, focusing on domestic policy, because not NATO. No, for the love of God. They must have been like, for the love of God, please don't ask about NATO.

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The first was scheduled to last 90 minutes, but Klain called it off after 45. The president's voice was shot, and so was his grasp of the subject. All he really could talk about was his infrastructure plan and how he was rebuilding America and 16 million jobs. He had nothing to say about his agenda for a second term.

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Klain says Biden grew irritable, saying he would not make promises as he would be criticized for failing to deliver. So he knew he knew right there he wasn't going to be delivering. Klain said he tried to persuade Biden to run an unfinished business, including his attempt. Listen to this. This is the best.

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including his attempt to subsidize state and local efforts to do childcare and bring down the cost to $20 a day. And you ought to try to fight for it again. Whipple goes on, quote, Biden seemed befuddled. quote, well, that just seems like a big spending program. Wow. Amazing. It's like these truths, you know, it's like they come out when the filter goes with with elderliness.

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Yet Klain said, no, sir, no. It brings down costs for people. It's responsive to inflation. It will bring more people into the workforce. It's good economics. And, you know, this is something you're for. It's That is the weirdest.

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It can happen when you're overtired. It can happen when you're drunk. And it can happen when you're elderly and dementia is setting in, right? Like you just kind of lose the filter. Yeah. You get I mean, Brit Hume once told me as you get older, your give a shit meter just changes. And I think that's true. But also your ability to like even filter it at all.

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And I think that's what Joe Biden suffering that from. They're like, no, that just that just seems like a big spending program. You're for it.

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Yes, yes. That's what it says. Klain fellow aides and visitors, including the film mogul Jeffrey Katzenberg, tried to get Biden into shape to mock debates, organize, focus on domestic policy.

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Talk about missing the moment. All right, here's the last part of it. Okay, after he explains to him, you are president of the United States and not NATO. Don't talk about NATO. And also you are for this policy on subsidizing state and local efforts to do childcare. You're for it. You've been pushing it for many years, sir. This is something you support. Okay.

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It's not, not a big government spending program. Not. Biden, quote, didn't want to talk about it and quote, 25 minutes into the second mock debate, the president was done for the day. I'm just too tired to continue and I'm afraid of losing my voice and I feel bad, he said. I just need some sleep. I'll be fine tomorrow. And he went off to bed.

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The president was fatigued, befuddled and disengaged, writes Whipple. Klain feared the debate with Trump would be a nationally televised disaster. It was. On 27 June, Biden arrived at the Atlanta venue with just minutes to spare because Klain said he was the president of the United States. They weren't going to start without him.

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On stage for two hours and six minutes, Biden stumbled, stared and mumbled. As described by Whipple, Jill Biden praised her husband's performance. She was like, there is no way I am leaving this White House, people. This is the nicest place I've ever lived. I feel important. I love being on Vogue. I think I'm secretly the president. And he did fine. It was great.

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Whipple quotes an unnamed close friend of Biden who took a call from Valerie Biden Owens. That's the president's sister and longtime advisor who was, quote, so angry she was practically incoherent. Runs in the family. And then the same friend reports later, this friend spoke to Joe Biden, who was laughing at his predicament and sounding like the senator and vice president of old.

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Where did that voice go? The friend wondered, where did that guy with that voice go? What the F happened to this guy? To Whipple, that was a question on which the political fate of the nation would turn. Eventually, Biden bowed to reality. Klain took a call from Jeff Zients on 21st of July, his successor chief of staff. Biden was out.

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Despite the debate disaster, the news was a gut punch to Ron Klain. Jeff, that's too bad, Klain said. I think that's a mistake. I think this was an avoidable tragedy. How? How is it avoidable? Honestly, what is Ron Klain trying to do here? Go ahead, Matt.

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I think, Camille, this guy, Ron Klain, is worse. He's worse than Kamala Harris on it, right? Because it's like Kamala Harris was, you have to give her in a very tough position only the nominee because he gave it to her. And, you know, running around being like, he's mentally infirm. We all knew it. Yes, I saw it. Is a tough way to win and not then be undermined by the guy who gave you the baton.

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But Ron Klain, as chief of staff, had... more than enough opportunity to get this on record with powerful Democrats inside, outside the White House, and to get it on record with media and to make sure the public knew before it was too late for them to switch horses. Maybe that's why he feels the need to say now, no, it was never so bad. I didn't think he could do it. It was never so bad.

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I thought he should step down. And he gave this interview before Kamala officially lost. But let's face it, by September, we all knew the likelihood was that she wasn't going to be able to pull this out. So that may also be playing a role. Like, I was right. Joe Biden could have done it. You know, there were some bad days, and I admit that to this reporter, but he wasn't so informed.

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In any event, what this says to me is they're liars. They they stole a presidency. And I don't mean that in the sense Donald Trump means it from 2020. I mean, Joe Biden wasn't president. He might have been president of NATO, but he was not president of the United States. It appears that Ron Klain was and Jeff Zients was and Jill Biden was.

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And we really don't actually know who was president for most of the time or making all these calls. And it's truly outrageous. And now bit by bit, they want to be returned to power. No, they lost those two special elections in Florida, but that's Florida, which is very red. I realize they tightened the margin a little, but all right. I mean, Republicans won by 15 points, right?

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It wasn't 30, but it was 15. But they did win that Wisconsin state Supreme Court election last night pretty easily. They won this special election in the state of Pennsylvania at the state level, not a federal election. And bit by bit, we're seeing Democrats put... Well, voters put Democrats back into power because Trump is controversial. Trump's doing a lot of controversial things.

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And it's just it's such a good reminder of what this party did to us for four years. They started dishonestly and they were dishonest all the way to the end.

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Yeah, go ahead. As much as I would love to say to our audience, and I'm sure, you know, there are a lot of Republicans and conservatives, I know people want to celebrate that as like the silver lining. I saw Elon tweeting, it was all about that. The truth is that's not right. That isn't true. The law in Wisconsin already was that you had to show a photo ID when you vote.

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That was a law on the book signed in a law. And Wisconsin voters had to show photo ID this past election. What they were doing here was writing it into the state constitution so it can't be changed more easily in the future. So that is another layer of protection. But let's be honest, this was not all about the photo ID, which is our It's already law in Wisconsin.

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This was about trying to maintain control of the state Supreme Court so they couldn't redistrict – bless these new redistricting lines that the Democrats want and capture two additional seats in the U.S. House of Representatives, right? So I just – believe me, I had a lot of people try to spin me on Twitter today about how, no, it's a real victory. I was like –

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It wasn't. And they won by 14 points and 15 points respectively. Listen, the Democrats were outspending them almost 10 to 1. It was literally almost 10 million to 1 million in one of those races. And the Republicans, first of all, the Democrats, they're probably not going to have that kind of dough on every single House race on the next midterm election.

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And the Republicans will be more engaged and start donating, and it'll be a bigger deal. But I think they knew at some level those two seats were not really in danger, and they didn't really care about slimmer margins. They just wanted to keep the seats, and they did. Yeah.

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in Wisconsin, however? I think I looked it up last night. They had like 24% of Democrat support. They had 77% of independent support and something like that. That's surprising. So that's why it passed so easily.

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Nothing. We only hear about Elon, who does... It does look like, net, he outspent them. But, like, when you're talking about, well, $10 billion from Soros and Hoffman and $19 from Elon, like, okay...

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He did. He flew out there. He was there Sunday night. He put the cheese head on, and he gave away a couple million bucks to people who would register for his super PAC to, like, support judges in a certain way.

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I actually don't think that was it. This is my own belief. Yeah. If you listen to the Wisconsin ads leading up to this election, you would have thought that that woman, Susan Crawford, was running against Elon. The Democrats used Elon's donations and ultimately, yes, probably visit on Sunday night. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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Oh, thank you for that. Well, congrats. I understand why the show has withstood the test of time because there are very few rivals to the top quality work that we get from the fifth column. And I mean that sincerely. You know, I love you.

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I do. That's true. We have to start with Biden because this was not going to be our lead today. But this Guardian article is so juicy. We got to do it. So the Guardian got his hands on this new book. It just hit, you know, shortly before we we came out. And they the new book. takes a deep dive into what Joe Biden was like prior to his debate, disaster, and then thereafter.

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I'm trying, oh, the name of the book, Uncharted, Uncharted by some guy named Whipple, last name Whipple, Chris Whipple. He's a reporter. Okay, so Ron Klain is no underling. You know, he's not like some no-name staffer. He was the chief of staff from 2021 to 2023, and then returned last June, again, not even a year ago, to run debate prep.

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Here are back to Kara Swisher sitting with Jake Tapper talking about the battle of the billionaires. Listen to how they frame it.

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So very clearly on the innermost Biden circle and somebody who they trusted. And he, I'll just give you the third paragraph of the Guardian piece.

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Okay, so it's all about Eli. You can do it. You can give millions, 20 million if you want. You just can't show up at a rally. That's what it boils down to. I don't believe that. Where's the wall-to-wall negative coverage about any of these Democrat donors like J.B. Pritzker or George Soros for that matter? You only see that on podcasts and sometimes Fox News.

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Right. There's breaking news on Elon Musk. I'll leave that as a tease. We're going to take a quick break. Thankfully, the guys from the fifth column, as they always do, such gentlemen, stay with us for the full show. Don't go anywhere. We'll have them and the news coming right up. These days, personal safety is not something that can be left to chance.

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According to Klain, as reported by this book, Uncharted, it turned out Biden, quote, did not know what Trump had been saying and could not grasp what the back and forth was, left preparation for the debate and fell asleep instead by the pool, obsessed about foreign leaders saying, quote, these guys say I'm doing a great job as president, so I must be a great president, end quote, has the ring of truth.

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What was that? They shouldn't have kept it so close. I'm exhausted from that celebration. Okay, so anyway, we're going to have a big 4 p.m. press conference. So the tariff thing will be all over the news this evening and tomorrow. We'll have it covered for you in our a.m. update and then again on tomorrow's show.

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Now, keep in mind, Elon Musk basically told the same to Brett Baier in his interview last Friday, where he said, just so you know, he's been hired as a special government employee. That's a special role you can get as a top advisor to the president. And And you only have a term of 130 days. It's basically a way to end around Senate confirmation requirements.

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Joe Biden did this to Anita Dunn, that monstrosity. She's a horrible lady. She was one of the key people over at the Time's Up organization that loved to go after any man who was a Republican. But if you were a woman like Tara Reid seeking their help, it was a big middle finger because Anita Dunn was close to Joe Biden. So screw you, Anita Dunn.

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In any event, she was a special government employee for Joe Biden. And the thing is, to be honest, at the end of that 130 days, they can just renew it. So they can keep it rolling. You actually don't have to leave right after the 130 days. But Brett Baer saw that we are, I don't know, a month or two away from hitting that point. He asked Elon about it. Do we have that soundbite?

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I don't know if we have the soundbite. We don't have the soundbite, but here's what he said. I'll tell you what Brett said, then I'll read you the political thing. He asked Musk on Thursday whether he'd be ready to leave when his special government employee status expires.

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He essentially declared mission accomplished, quote, I think we will have accomplished most of the work required to reduce the deficit by one trillion within that time frame. And then this past Monday night, Trump told reporters that, quote, at some point, Elon's going to want to go back to his company and added he wants to. I would keep him as long as I could keep him.

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Um, on the heels of that comes this piece in Politico that Elon Musk will leave the administration soon. Trump told his inner circle, including members of his cabinet, Elon Musk will be stepping back in the coming weeks from his current role as government partner, ubiquitous cheerleader in Washington hatchet man.

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President remains pleased with Musk and his Doge group, but both men have decided in recent days, it will soon be time for us to return to his businesses and take on a supporting role. According to three Trump insiders who were granted anonymity to speak. Um, There's a headline over in the Daily Mail that he has stepped down as the head of Doge. That does not appear to be the case.

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That is unconfirmed. It feels like at least as of this hour, that's only the Daily Mail who's reporting that and that's not in Politico. So we'll wait to see whether that's also true. Um, But I think, look, if it's true that he's going to be stepping down from his responsibilities like right now in the weeks before he hits 130, there's a reason for that.

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And my own guess, without having spoken to anybody on Team Trump, is this has been very – hard on Elon. His Tesla stock is down. His company's being attacked. Nobody wants to buy a Tesla now because they're worried their car's going to get vandalized, keyed, that the place they have to go to recharge it is going to be set on fire with Molotov cocktails.

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They've been walking to a Tesla dealership that could be burned by some lunatic. It's insane. We have hate crime charges now that the DOJ is trying to file against people doing this. But Other than, you know, yes, legally he's being protected by the attorney general, but like the left is celebrating this.

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You had Tim Walz, the vice presidential nominee for the Democrats out there talking about how joyful it was to watch the Tesla stock fall. I'm sure Elon would love to get back. He got a president elected or at least played a big part.

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quote, didn't really understand what his argument even was on inflation and had nothing to say about a second term other than finish the job and get off my damn lawn. Those two things weren't. No, I added the second one. And there's so many other juicy quotes in here. We'll go through it. But can I just get your initial reaction to Ron Klain?

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get back to just trying to solve paralysis with Neuralink, trying to colonize Mars with SpaceX, trying to continue the fight for free speech on X, running the boring company where he's boring big tunnels underneath the earth to get people faster from A to B. And I've missed one. I've missed one of the big ones. I can't keep track.

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And Tesla, I guess, trying to improve our world for our children with more green energy cars, something the left should like. In any event, what do you guys make of it all?

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No, you should be in Brooklyn. You should be in Park Slope. You're in the wrong neighborhood now to get your Tesla.

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What do you mean? It's a day of liberation. You sound like you have a judgment about it, my libertarian friends.

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Well, look, I think it's sad. It's like, imagine living in the, in the time of, of Albert Einstein, you know, or Thomas Edison and having them say, I will help solve the nation's problems. I'm happy to pitch in and saying, no, we hate you. That's what the left is saying. We know we hate you. We don't need your brain to help us solve problems.

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laying it all out there, or at least most of it out there, to this reporter for his book. Anyone?

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Like I realize he's a, he's a controversial guy and he doesn't. Yeah. speak or opine with a velvet glove either. He's not like super sweet. And I don't understand how people are having a negative reaction to him. It's not like that. But I just think we're so lucky to have someone like that willing to touch government with a 10 foot pole. It's not like Taylor Swift.

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She got booed at the Super Bowl because she got political and she alienated half her fan base and half of the country. And when I saw it, did I feel sorry for her? Not at all. You know, you put yourself out there. You But in her case, it was utterly pointless. You have no political sway. You just want to feel like you're more important.

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It's not enough for you to have a billion dollars before you're 36. You want to feel like you have more influence than you do, and you found out the hard way that you don't. With Elon... He actually is a very important person to have in the world and in this country. And on top of it, he did help get President Trump elected. He actually did move the needle.

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I don't think there's any question about that. So it really was valuable to us as a nation to have him get political, unlike Taylor Swift. So he did it. I think he did it for his country. He did it because as a businessman, he saw all the red tape and the regulations we were drowning in and realized the average man could never fight this fight, never fight this fight. So he decided to do it.

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And he's paid a real price for it. And I think the nation should be in his debt. Okay, listen, I stole the last word on Elon. That's that. Let's move on because there's so much other stuff to get to. Let's spend a minute on Spartacus. I mean, Cory Booker. He, this truly was like his, he held a filibuster. I guess it's not technically a filibuster. And why isn't it technically a filibuster?

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Because he wasn't filibustering anything. He just got up there and sent it well and talked for 25 hours without stopping. He didn't go to the bathroom. He didn't eat. He didn't sit down. You weren't allowed to, or it would be broken, but it wasn't a filibuster. He wasn't trying to stop anything. He was just up there to make a point that he's Spartacus. I mean, really, it was about him.

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And here he is after the fact. Now, truly, to this moment, I have no idea what he was protesting. I have zero clue. I don't care. But here he is talking about the sacrifice this required of him, Sod 18.

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I got that top, though. I had Chuck Schumer for you, Moynihan, but I have Frank Luntz for me. Watch.

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OK, Frank Luntz, who, FYI, predicted Trump would lose in 2024 after the devastating September debate against Kamala Harris.

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Okay, he's the same one who said the GOP would win the House in the 2022 midterms by huge margins, that the GOP would win the Senate in 2022, that in 2021, he said Republicans are more pro-immigrant than elites realize, and Democrats are more pro-border security than elites realize. He said in 2021, the GOP shouldn't use the term border wall. They should use the term barrier.

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It's more accurate and less ugly. This is the same man who wants you to know now, Cory Booker just changed the world.

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That's where you go. Come on. You know exactly what you're walking through.

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He's trying to tell us I didn't want to get backed up. I didn't want to have to run out of the Senate floor because, you know, I had to empty the poop chute. That's really what he's trying to say. It's not me. It's a U.S. senator. Same U.S. senator who said this nonsense when he tried to stop the Brett Kavanaugh confirmation hearings. He literally said this. Watch.

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Mm hmm. I'm reminded of the Biden quote. The only Biden quote I really like. Good luck in your senior year. That's that's what I have to say to Ron Klain.

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Yeah. Crossed it off my list. I was waiting for the day. I'm glad it finally happened.

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Okay, there's a lot to get to. We've got to spend some time on the deportation of the guy who's El Salvadorian. He's Salvadorian. But if you read The Atlantic, you'd probably think he was a U.S. citizen who'd never done anything wrong. I came to this story late because I was off on...

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I was traveling yesterday and then later on Monday, I went out to California to speak with a lovely group of people. In any event, what appears to have happened here, very long and involved story short, is this guy sneaked into the country illegally in 2012 from El Salvador. He did not claim asylum or any of that nonsense. He ultimately got, uh, arrested.

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And in response to that arrest wound up in an immigration court where he said, um, or where others said about him that he was a gang member and that a judge, an immigration judge found there was credible evidence and that he was in fact, a part of MS 13, a dangerous gang. Then it went up to a higher appellate court judge within the immigration system who said, yep, I see it too.

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The guy's a danger to society. And no, we will not be releasing him. And he still did not claim asylum. And it wasn't until he was on the... the brink of being deported. We were saying, get out. You have to go back home. Uh, and he had already in that time met an American, married her and, uh, his two brothers came, they got green cards. They had a baby. He's like, Oh, I really don't want to go.

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And suddenly it was an asylum claim. Suddenly he claimed I need asylum. It's very dangerous in El Salvador. There's this terrible gang. It's not MS 13. It's a different gang that I never heard of. And, um, If I go back home, I'm going to be killed.

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They're going to kill my whole family because we've been making some sort of food in my mom's house that has led to death threats against my mom and me and everybody. And you can't send me back there. It was on the eve of deportation, which does undermine the claim entirely. And instead of saying, you know what, you can have asylum because the statute of limitations had passed on that.

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You have to assert asylum claims within one year of getting here. And he didn't. He was well past it. The judge said, all right, I'll give you temporary protection from removal. And all this judge said was, you may not be removed to El Salvador. from the United States. And that is the only blanket of protection this guy had over his head that we couldn't remove.

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But at any point we could have removed him to Canada. We could have removed him to Mexico. We could have removed him to Columbia. And what happened since Trump is now doing immigration crackdowns is they arrested this guy looking at that underlying history that I just laid out saying he's part of MSF 13 and a higher court confirmed it and said, you got to go.

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And if they had deported him, even without a hearing, to any other country, including Colombia or, you know, take your pick, they would have been fine. But instead, they deported him to the one country he's not supposed to go to under that non-removal blanket, which was El Salvador. However, Trump is allowed under the law even to remove him there.

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if the threat that existed when we gave him the temporary protection has abated, if it's been lifted, if something's happened in the country. And there's a real argument. I guess the President Bukele of El Salvador has cracked down on this other gang. It ends in 18. I can't remember. There's MS-13. Maybe this is MS-18. I can't remember, but it's 18.

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He's completely apparently eradicated this gang in the intervening years. So even then, Trump would have had an argument that, you know what, the circumstances that led to his temporary removal have abated. And under the law, I'm allowed to say they've abated and he's out of here. But he should have had a hearing about that. And they didn't give him one.

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So they did commit a violation of procedure. And that's the story. It's not great, but I will tell you up front, I view this the same way I view the death of Palestinians. It's all on Hamas. It's all on Hamas. That's really how I see it. Hamas committed a terrible, atrocious terror attack, and they invited this unleashed violence into their region that wasn't there.

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Israel had no choice but to eradicate Hamas and gave warnings and tried to tell everybody we're about to do it, and this is where the bombs are going to fall. Hamas uses its fellow citizens as human shields, and so I blame them for the violence that has happened there. thereafter. And that's how I see this. I think this too is the Democrats' fault. You opened the borders.

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You created a national crisis. You let someplace between 10 and 20 million illegals flood into the United States, many of whom got social security numbers, many of whom we're now seeing actually voted, many of whom are taking our social services that we can't afford for our own people. Get out. Finally, Trump is getting them out of here.

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And will there be some small, minor administrative mistakes in the process? Yes, that too is on the Democrats. You created this problem. Trump is trying to solve it. That he doesn't solve it perfectly on every day and in every way is not on him. It's on you. You created a firestorm of immigrants that we're now trying to get rid of. And it's not going to be perfect or pretty.

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Okay, so that's where I stand on it. My libertarian friends, I have a feeling you feel differently.

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Is it better that they're going into the prison there as opposed to just wandering in El Salvador?

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No, I can't disagree with in principle. It's just, we're at an emergency level here. You know, Americans are getting killed. They're getting gutted and murdered by these animals. Like the guy who killed Lake and Riley, the guy who killed Jocelyn Nangari, a 12 year old girl who got bound, sexually assaulted and thrown off a bridge. F these guys. I don't give a shit about their hearings. I don't.

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I have to be honest. We're not deporting American citizens. Nobody has said, oh my God, there's an American in the El Salvadorian prison. They are screening. And the vast majority of these folks are already under a removal order, have already been adjudicated. And it might be all of them.

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I'm trying to figure this out right now, whether everybody who gets on board one of these planes is actually under an order of removal that's already been handed down by a judge. They just then What Biden was doing was you get that order and then he send you right back out in America. Now, Tom Homan is actually trying to find them.

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But I'm pretty sure it's either the vast it's either the vast majority or it's all. So they have had in the vast majority of these cases, some due process, some hearing afforded to them way more than they. Yeah, way, way more than you get in any other country. It's not like we've totally abandoned our principles. And then there's that group under the Alien Enemies Act.

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which was treated differently, and that's playing out in the courts, and I'm on Trump's side on that too.

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But the left will have you believe we're actually just rounding up, literally, like we joked about at the top of the show, the Linda Kellys of the world, because they have a tattoo and a FUBU shirt, which is not exactly the same as being a member of MSM 13, which apparently they all love Michael Jordan, and they wear red, and they wear Michael Jordan sweat clothes in addition to a certain set of tattoos.

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And I'll say one other thing. I realize you can have tattoos, whatever, but... And they say, and it can be ambiguous, they say like a crown and there are certain other ones. But if you look at that photo behind Kristi Noem, which I was very critical of her for doing, I did not appreciate her using human beings as props for her little photo op. They all have the same tattoos.

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It is like a uniform that screams Trenda Aragua. Okay, so anyway, you guys keep going on why I'm wrong.

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But you don't see a difference on illegal immigration. I mean, we're not on illegals. You understand they get some measure of due process in the United States, but they are not entitled to anywhere near what a U.S. citizen would get.

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He said the guy was convicted of being part of MSNBC. MSNBC. MS13. It's worse than MS13. It's MSNBC. It's the worst thing we know.

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And we will be hearing from the president in his Make America Wealthy Again Rose Garden address. plus the results of last night's elections, where the media hype did not deliver any actually close finishes in Florida or in Wisconsin. And I've got a clear take on what happened in Wisconsin.

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He said he'd been convicted, and that's not right. He was adjudicated by an immigration judge, and then that was upheld by an immigrant. But it's not the same as being convicted. And he said that when he got into all this trouble with the courts, it was 2019 under the Biden administration, and that was Trump in 2019.

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Where was the in-depth piece by The Atlantic on Jocelyn Nungare? Where was that?

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That's because he's right. They care more about these illegals who very much look like they're members of MS-13 than he does about the little girls, than Atlantic does about little girls getting sexually assaulted and murdered at 12.

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He started it off by attacking the Atlantic. It was in that same thread.

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It's nuts. He might be on the International Space Station. Elon might have been responsible for this.

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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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My mom. Yeah, I told you. My mom got a tattoo when she turned 70. It's a rosary on her foot. Is she almost out of here? Oh, my God.

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She doesn't wear Michael Jordan gear, but she did go to a garage sale once and come home wearing a FUBU sweatshirt. Oh, that's great.

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Well, Fox would definitely have the most diverse employee base. Definitely. There are tons of Democrats working at Fox. Young people who get into the news are all leftists. They're all leftists at Fox. Some of them can be massaged out of it. But when you first get into the business, you are. Go ahead, Matt. Sorry.

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What you're saying is my mom is on the next plane to El Salvador. Of course.

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And just let me filter it though. Like if you're a hard partisan, I would love if you would just share that with me as opposed to posing as an objective journalist who's just gonna give me the straight facts. And then I can take it for what it's worth. You're right when you say it takes away a cudgel, Matt.

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The New York Times would stop being this punching bag for the rest of us if it would just say, We are a left-wing organization. We are going to report through our liberal bias. We own that. Take it for what it's worth. It may not be worth anything to you. They wouldn't lose a single reader because all of their readers already know this, but it's just the reputation.

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They would stop getting battered as much by those of us on the right because they're pretending. They're fakers. And that's what's such a turnoff, right? It's like, why wouldn't you just take away the battering ram we've been using on you for all these decades? Because the jig is up. We already know anyway.

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No, that's right. And then they changed it. Then they changed the slogan from fair and balanced. I don't know what the new slogan is. It happened after I left. Well, it used to be, we report, you decide, right? Well, that was always it. No, but they got rid of fair and balanced.

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I don't know if it was because they wanted to lean more into owning what they do, but I actually think fair and balanced worked because it was really like it provided balance to the rest of the news media, which was true, and they did it in a fair way. It worked for me. In any event, you guys, you also have worked very much for me today, both in fact and rhetorically.

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All right. Tomorrow, we're going to have Michael Knowles and Anna Kasparian. And then later this week, we're bringing back Mike and Dave, Mike Davis and Dave Ehrenberg. And they are going to help us hash out. And I mean, hash it out. Some of these big legal disputes that are coming down the pike and have been getting fought in the in the courts this week. You're going to love that.

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No, literally. Okay, let's get to that. No, he's not joking. That's not an exaggeration for effect. Okay, let's keep going through the article. Okay, because my hat is off to you, reporter Chris Whipple. You did a great job. I can't wait to read your book. Okay, here's more. Uh, as described by Klain to Chris Whipple at one point, again, I'm quoting you from the guardian piece.

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At one point, Biden had an idea. If he looked perplexed when Trump talked, voters would understand that Trump was an idiot. Klain allegedly replied to Joe Biden, sir, when you look perplexed, people just think you're perplexed. And this is our problem in this race. Now, who knows whether that's true? I've got questions whether he really said that to Joe Biden. Okay, there's more. Okay.

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And a bombshell new book reveals what Joe Biden ally, Ron Klain, who was his chief of staff for two years, really saw while prepping for that disastrous debate. Now the stories come out Bit by bit, the stories come out about what they knew. They're all trying to save their own asses by being like, he was a hot mess and I knew. Well, why'd you lie to all of us publicly over?

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Whipple told Politico last week in an interview about his book, I happen to think that to call it a cover-up is simplistic. I think it was stranger and way more troubling than that. Biden's inner circle, his closest advisors, many of them, were in the fog of delusion and denial. They believed what they wanted to believe.

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They go on to talk about how even after the disastrous debate, according to Klain, to Whipple, Klain believed Biden should stay in the race. And then after he quit, that he should have stayed in the race. And they talk about, okay, this is the juicy part, the prep for the debate. At his first meeting with Biden in Aspen Lodge, the president's cabin, according to Whipple, Klain was startled.

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He had never seen him so exhausted and out of it. Biden was unaware of what was happening in his own campaign. Unaware. Halfway through the session, the president excused himself and went off to sit by the pool. That evening, Biden met again with Klain and his team. Biden aides Mike Donilon, Steve Ricchetti and Bruce Reed. We sat around the table, said Klain.

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Biden had answers on cards and he was just extremely exhausted. And I was struck by how out of touch with American politics he was. so out of touch with American politics, the sitting president of the United States. He was just very, very focused on his interactions with NATO leaders. And here it is, Moynihan. Yeah. Klain writes Whipple, quote,

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wondered half seriously if Biden thought he was president of NATO instead of the U.S. He just became very enraptured with being the head of NATO, he said. Oh, my God. He thought he was the head of NATO and not the president of the United States. That's according to his chief of staff for two years who prepped him for the debate. That happened in June of this past year.

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We pulled a thought from Ron Klain from July 29th of this past year when he was on with that tough, I get to the bottom of all stories reporter, Kara Swisher.

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A couple times a week. Listen to that guy. The idea that people weren't transparent about his mental acuity is belied by his behavior. The same guy who just sat down, just sat down with this reporter. And by the way, they sat down in September, according to The Guardian. He gave the interview in September. So that's him on July 29th.

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And how does that save your ass? Truly, how? Like, why, if you were part of the cover up, would you be so dumb as to grant a bunch of interviews acknowledging? Yeah, I knew. I just why wouldn't you just continue the lie? I had no idea. It's an interesting question. We'll attack it among others with our guests today for the full show.

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The idea that people covered up his poor mental acuity is a lie. You know, he did all it's belied by the tour de force. He said he did after that debate. And literally within two months, he is admitting to Chris Whipple. We wondered half seriously if he thought he was president of NATO.

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New York prosecutors indicting Mr. Mangione on first-degree murder in the furtherance of terrorism, a crime carrying a maximum penalty of life in prison without parole. Mr. Mangione pleading not guilty to all the New York charges, his legal team attempting to have the Pennsylvania charges dismissed.

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It is permissible for federal prosecutors to seek the death penalty, even in states that do not allow capital punishment in their state prisons, but it's rare. Typically, juries in these districts are not inclined to support this ultimate punishment, leaving the prosecutors with an uphill legal battle. And that'll do it for your AM update. I'm Megyn Kelly.

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Two special elections in Florida to fill seats vacated by Republican congressmen remaining decisively in GOP control. Decision Desk HQ projecting a 14-point win for Republican Randy Fine over Democrat Josh Wheal in the 6th district. That's the seat vacated by National Security Advisor Mike Waltz.

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In the 1st district, Decision Desk HQ projecting a 15-point margin of victory for Republican Jimmy Petronas over Democrat Amy Vallemont. This is for the seat vacated by Congressman Matt Gaetz. Both races drawing a massive influx of Democrat cash and national attention as Democrats seek to expose discontent with the Trump administration in deep red districts.

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In the first district, Valmont raising $6.5 million. That's triple the $2.1 million. brought in by the Republican. And in the 6th District, Democrat Wheel raising a staggering $9 million compared to less than $1 million raised by Republican Fine. The outcome of these elections further solidifying the Republican majority in the House, now at 220 to 213.

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President Trump set to unveil the administration's tariff strategy in a Rose Garden speech this afternoon.

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In Wisconsin, several news outlets, including Decision Desk HQ and others, projecting a Democrat victory in the Wisconsin state Supreme Court race. Democrat Susan Crawford defeating GOP rival Brad Schimel in a hard-fought race that brought national attention and money. Millions poured in from George Soros for the Dems and Elon Musk, among others, for Mr. Schimel.

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The GOP loss means the state Supreme Court there is now poised to throw out the current GOP-drawn congressional map, which would cost Republicans two seats in the U.S. House of Representatives. Mr. Musk campaigned personally in Wisconsin for Mr. Schimel, but was demonized by Democrats who ran ads making Elon sound like their opponent.

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Mr. Trump won in Wisconsin in November, but Republicans in swing states have had less luck winning without Trump on the ballot. President Trump announcing Liberation Day for America in a Rose Garden speech this afternoon. After weeks of buildup, Mr. Trump unveiling a new tariff policy aimed at reigniting U.S.

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manufacturing and reinvigorating the middle class, sparking a new golden age for America. Some economic experts remain skeptical, warning of potential market volatility and inflationary reactions.

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In the first Trump administration, the tax foundation estimating Mr. Trump imposed tariffs on approximately $380 billion worth of imports, with a significant portion of those targeting China. Democrats criticized the move, but then kept those tariffs in place when Joe Biden took over, later even increasing some of them on electric vehicles, solar parts, and steel.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Wednesday, April 2nd, 2025, and this is your AM Update. Results are in from critical House races in Florida.

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President Trump's first-term strategy focused primarily on China, but the second time around he is pursuing a broader, more ambitious trade agenda, reshaping global commerce. Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller on Monday outlining the core philosophy on Fox.

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The House advances legislation to rein in universal injunctions, and Attorney General Pam Bondi says federal prosecutors will seek the death penalty in the case against Luigi Mangione. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update. Thank you so much for having me. You might think switching to Patriot Mobile is painful, but it isn't.

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Reaction from business owners varying sharply across industries. One Alabama textile business owner applauding the move, saying it levels the playing field after decades of unfair trade.

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Others, particularly those dealing with auto parts, expressing concern. Here's a mechanic from Michigan.

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Details on the strategy itself shifting in the lead up to the big announcement. President Trump initially promising fully reciprocal tariffs, meaning if a country applies a 25% tariff on imported U.S. goods, then the U.S. would respond in kind. Mr. Trump suggesting on Sunday night the final version now may be more flexible.

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Since taking office, Mr. Trump increasing tariffs on China by 20 percent, raising tariffs on steel and aluminum by 25 percent and engaging in back and forth battles with Canada and Mexico. Adversaries and allies alike watching closely in recent days for clues on what today's announcement might look like. President Trump on Monday remaining tight lipped.

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In anticipation of the announcement, several countries preemptively announcing a reduction on their tariffs against us. On Monday, Vietnam slashing duties on cars, liquefied gas and some agricultural goods. India offering a wide range of cuts on farm imports and manufacturing materials. And on Tuesday, Israel eliminating all remaining tariffs on U.S. goods.

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Coming up, the House of Representatives set to vote on legislation aimed at reining in universal injunctions from federal district court judges. And AG Pam Bondi announcing federal prosecutors will seek the death penalty against Luigi Mangione, accused of killing the CEO of UnitedHealthcare. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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Take your kids to a truly wonderful movie this Easter season and be a part of making family entertainment great again. Angel.com slash Megan. The House of Representatives set to vote on the No Robe Rulings Act as early as next week. The bill, introduced by Republican Congressman from California Daryl Issa, aimed at reining in a single judge's ability to affect nationwide policy.

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Federal judges slapping President Trump with at least 15 universal injunctions since he took office in January. Some of the frozen policies, including the president's initiative to end birthright citizenship, ban transgender individuals from military service, and deport suspected illegal foreign terrorist operatives under the Alien Enemies Act.

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On Tuesday, Congressman Issa describing the bill in a hearing about judicial overreach.

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Universal injunctions, a flashpoint in the second Trump administration, fueling intense debate on Capitol Hill. Conservatives accuse left-leaning advocacy groups of launching coordinated legal offensives, handpicking districts to block Trump's agenda in the courts before the policies even get off the ground.

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Lifting a nationwide injunction can take several months to even years to go through a full appeals process. The House will likely advance Congressman Issa's bill, Republican Senators Josh Hawley of Missouri and Chuck Grassley of Iowa introducing companion legislation in their respective chamber.

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Any legislation to this effect is likely to die in the Senate as Republicans do not have enough votes to overcome a filibuster. The latest Ivy League universities targeted by the Trump administration, Harvard and Princeton. On Monday, the Trump administration announcing a review of about 9 billion in federal grants and contracts to Harvard.

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The Trump administration claiming the university may be in violation of federal compliance standards surrounding unlawful acts of anti-Semitism on campus. In response to the October 7th Hamas terror attack on Israel, more than 30 Harvard student groups signed on to an open letter holding Israel, quote, entirely responsible.

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Then-President Claudine Gay testifying about concerns of illegal demonstrations of anti-Semitism on the Hill in December 2023.

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hateful it's when that speech crosses into conduct that violates our policies against bullying harassment does that speech not cross that barrier does that speech not call for the genocide of jews and the elimination of israel ms gay resigned less than one month later amid massive backlash over her performance and accusations of plagiarism in january 2024 harvard establishing two task forces one focusing on combating anti-semitism

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one on combating anti-Muslim, anti-Arab bias. In January of this year, as part of a settlement with Jewish student groups, Harvard adopting an official definition of anti-Semitism to apply in disciplinary hearings. While it's threatening, the Trump administration has not yet frozen or canceled any federal funds granted to Harvard.

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On Tuesday, however, it did pause dozens of grants to Princeton University, part of a broader review into whether the school is in violation of federal civil rights laws tied to anti-Semitism on campus. President Christopher Icegrouper on Tuesday writing in an email to the Princeton community, quote, And we will cooperate with the government in combating anti-Semitism.

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Princeton will also vigorously defend academic freedom and the due process rights of this university. Mr. Eisgruber saying the frozen grants come from the Department of Defense, the Department of Energy and NASA. Princeton Financial reports indicating the university takes in more than $455 million in federal grants and contracts. How much has been frozen, not yet clear.

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Federal prosecutors will seek the death penalty against Luigi Mangione, the 26-year-old accused of murdering UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson. U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi writing on Tuesday, quote, Luigi Mangione's murder of Brian Thompson, an innocent man and father of two young children, was a premeditated, cold-blooded assassination that shocked America.

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On December 4th, around 6.45 a.m., security footage of the incident showing a masked suspect calmly waiting outside a Midtown Manhattan hotel, then ambushing Mr. Thompson, shooting him in the back and the leg before fleeing on an electronic bicycle. Five days later, Pennsylvania police arresting Mr. Mangione at a McDonald's nearly 300 miles away.

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Authorities say Mr. Mangione was in possession of a 3D-printed pistol, a suppressor, zip ties, duct tape, and a handwritten manifesto expressing rage with the American health care system. In a bizarre twist, news of the assassination inspiring a strange fan base for Mr. Mangione.

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Mr. Mangione's court appearance is packed with adoring fans of the suspected killer, one even slipping him a heart-shaped love note. Shortly after the arrest, the Fed's charging Mr. Mangione with murder and interstate stalking. The suspect yet to enter a plea in that federal case. Mr. Mangione also facing a laundry list of state charges in both New York and Pennsylvania.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Okay, there is so much news. I, I, there's so much news. I am thinking about the lawfare against Donald Trump just as much as Chuck Schumer is dreaming about Elon Musk. That's what's happening right now. We are in day 58 of Trump's presidency and the resistance is out in full force.

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So you've got men, active duty men who rely for their health care on the VA, on the Pentagon, if they're active duty, who, yeah, some of them need Viagra. And this woman wants to shame them and the military for providing it. Well, if they won't also pay for us to, in other cases, chop off penises and try to create fake vaginas and then send them out and telling tell them to go kill ISIS. I can't.

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Yeah. She's very angry in this opinion about the alleged animus—again, it's another word for hatred—of President Trump in the executive order. She writes, "...the military ban is soaked in animus and dripping with pretext. Its language is unabashedly demeaning. Its policy stigmatizes transgender persons as inherently unfit, and its conclusions bear no relation to fact."

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Thus, even if the court analyzed the military ban under the rational basis review, which is the easiest one to pass, it would fail. Defendants have not provided a legitimate reason for banning all transgender troops. The military ban is unique in its unadulterated expression of animus. Now, I looked at the ban and I didn't see any of that.

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I'm not going to read the whole thing because it's long, but it talks about here's they say during the Biden administration, the Department of Defense allowed gender insanity to pervade our military organizations. That's not animus. Gender insanity pervading the military organizations means a lot of things. And there's nothing hateful about it.

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This included not only permitting the military to increase the number of individuals not physically or mentally prepared to serve, but also ordering DOD to pay for service members' transition surgeries, as well as those of their dependent children at a cost of millions to the American taxpayer. The U.S.

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imposes rigorous standards on all military service members to ensure they're prepared to take on the challenges. Fitness, health, welfare, and readiness standards must ensure they're ready to fight. On the battlefield, there can be no accommodation for anything less than resilience, strength, and the ability to withstand extraordinary physical demands.

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Individuals who are unable to meet these requirements are unable to serve. This has been the case for decades. I basically am reading the whole thing, by the way. you know, cohesion requires high levels of integrity and stability among service members, high levels of integrity and stability.

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I'm like, honestly, is this where she's getting animus from saying that it can take a minimum of 12 months for an individual to compete, complete treatments after transition surgery, which often involves the use of heavy narcotics. That's true. As I've mentioned before, there's someone in my extended family who went through this. It's a crazy story. One day, maybe I'll get permission to tell it.

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But trust me, yes, that's true. During this period, they are not physically capable of meeting military readiness requirements and require ongoing medical care. This is not conducive for deployment or other readiness requirements. Anyway, this is not full of animus.

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She is the one who is full of animus, Charlie, as evidenced by what she said during the hearing when she said, I am not going to listen to what the current sitting defense secretary, Pete Hegseth, says are the readiness requirements of the military. I choose instead to look at Joe Biden's chairman of the Joint Chiefs, who she says has a stellar military record.

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And she said, unlike this current guy, who's only been there for 30 days and had only a quote, limited deployment for a short period prior to his TV career. having obviously no idea that he's had at least three deployments to Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to Afghanistan and to Iraq during the most dangerous period of the Iraq war.

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How dare she diminish his military experience and check his opinion as the sitting secretary of defense?

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Couldn't agree more. All right, let's move on because there are other cases to get to. And there's a lot of lawfare being unleashed against Trump. It is obviously the ACLU's slash left's. But I repeat myself. favored tool in stopping the Trump agenda.

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You had quickly a decision from a judge, this guy too was an Obama judge, last night saying some of the cuts made by Doge and Elon Musk at USAID must be reversed. You have to restore access to emails and computers for these employees. Basically anything that came from Musk or Doge has been undone, saying he's a non-confirmed

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a government appointee, you know, executive branch appointee, and therefore his decisions had to be struck down because he wasn't he the judge finding he needed to be Senate confirmed to be doing this. Look, I don't want to spend time on that one because the effect of that is Marco Rubio just needs to make all the same decisions and he'll be fine. All the same things are about to happen.

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It's just Marco Rubio, who is Senate confirmed ninety nine to zero, by the way, will now make those same decisions. They're basically saying, Elon, was ahead of his skis on exercising certain powers. He needs to be more of a reviewer and a recommender as opposed to an executioner of his specific findings and recommendations. Okay. So that's that.

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Then we have to move on to what's happening with the Trend Aragua members accused who Trump deported to El Salvador, which is a pretty effective deterrent.

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Warning to Trend Aragua members, now may not be the best time to try to sneak across the border and enter the United States because there's a new sheriff in town and his name is Tom Homan and he will track you down and he will put you on a plane and And before you know it, you will be in this prison in El Salvador. Good luck to you. I have zero sympathy for any of them.

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I mean, I'm at my wits end about some of this lawfare, but this one in particular. Let me just tell you something, okay? You can be kicked out of the military for your height, your weight, and your vision. These things can get you ejected from the American military. You can get kicked out if you're on the autism spectrum. You can get kicked out if you have certain mood disorders.

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But a big legal dispute has unfolded over whether Trump has the right to do this now. First, let's spend a moment on the judge. His name is Brosberg. He is in the these are all D.C. district court judges, federal district court judges in Washington, D.C., because that's where the government's based. He was an Obama appointee. And there's a very interesting question being raised online.

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about whether he should have recused himself from this case to begin with. And I'll tell you, I've got my own questions about it. Laura Loomer, she's said some things that are not true and that are conspiratorial, but she said a lot that is true. She is not wrong just because she's controversial. And we'll find out, we'll update the audience. But

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She went, and we believe what she did is she looked at his confirmation hearing to see what he said about himself. And it looks to us like at his confirmation hearing, he did confirm that he had two daughters. twins, one of whom is named Catherine. It looks like Catherine's age right now would be 24 or 25.

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And that dovetails with the picture that we have of the alleged Catherine Roseberg, who is being accused in this exclusive thread by Laura Loomer of working for a 501c3 called Partners for Justice. which gives criminal, illegal aliens and gang members legal advice.

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Partners for Justice strongly opposes mass deportations and legislation targeting members of criminal gangs and has been a vocal critic of the Lake and Riley Act. Loomer reports.

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You can see in a screenshot she posts that Catherine Boasberg, and we think it's the same Catherine Boasberg, but that does need to be confirmed, but Boasberg's an unusual name, and it's spelled in both cases B-O-A-S-B-E-R-G, tweeted out an article celebrating Judge Boasberg's blocking Trump's deportations of Venezuelan gangbangers, and this would be Catherine Boasberg's

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Boss, she tweeted out, her name is Emily Galvin Almanza. That was rightly quick. Trump administration live updates, judge orders halt on deportations of Venezuelans under wartime law. The problem here potentially is that

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this judge's daughter could potentially be hurt in her employment by a substantial reduction in crime rates, in caseloads involving, you know, that keep Partners for Justice busy, relating to gangs and deportations. And so there is a possibility that this judge inappropriately sat on this case or at least violated an ethical canon by not disclosing that his daughter has an active role

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in protecting gang members and illegals from deportation. Let's just start there, Rich, with all those qualifiers, your take on it.

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You can get kicked out if you have ADD. ADD. If you have depression. If you have history of a single adjustment disorder, depending on the circumstance, history of an eating disorder, all of that, the military can say you may not serve.

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I think, Charlie, that you and I may disagree on on the propriety of Judge Boasberg holding the hearings on this and thinking that he can second guess the Trump administration on this. And that's that's fine. We can get into that. But my own position is, if you look at the wording, first of all, let's understand this. Trump has already changed expedited removal.

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They've already expanded the scope of expedited removal. So let's forget for table for a moment the Alien Enemies Act. Expedited removal has been used by all administrations in certain cases to just return people at the border. Get out. You crossed over. Congratulations. You swam the Rio Grande. Goodbye. I don't care. Get out. We can see that you're an illegal and you sneaked in here. Goodbye.

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Well, he has expanded the use of expedited removal. It used to be within 100 miles of the border and 14 days of their arrival to anywhere in the person who's, quote, undocumented, who can't prove they've been here for continuously two years. All right. So Trump's already done that, saying that's how Tom Holman's going into these communities and saying, you're done. You're out.

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I don't have to give you a hearing. You're just leaving. Now, some have had hearings and just decided to stay because even when under the Biden administration, they had hearings saying you have to leave. You don't qualify for asylum. We never enforced it. We just turned them back out into America and let them live here. So those people are also being ejected.

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And those might be some of the people who are on one of those planes Trump sent to El Salvador. At least that's what the administration is claiming, that they're not all ejected under Alien Enemies Act. Some were ejected under good old fashioned immigration laws. They'd already been told to leave and they overstayed. Okay.

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So in any event, if expedited removal can allow Tom Homan to go grab somebody in Colorado and kick them out, why, why is there any controversy over this at all? Why are we even arguing alien enemies act? I does. That's my number one thought. My second thought is, OK, but we are. The administration has said Alien Enemies Act 1798.

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It's a law that was written by the very founders who drafted the Constitution applies. And that law says if there's been a declared war or if the country is suffering from an invasion or an incursion by a potential enemy force, the president has the authority to deport the people associated with it. without due process. It's really what it says. There's no hearing required.

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But if you have gender dysphoria and say you're a trans person, you're a man who thinks he's a woman or vice versa, this judge, LGBTQ, she's the first openly gay woman on the bench in at least D.C., I think it is. has ruled you must be allowed to serve, that the commander-in-chief and the secretary of defense may not tell you that you cannot serve. You can be too short.

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You can just throw them out. And Trump is relying not really on the war. He's relying on invasion or incursion. And if you look at the statute, which I did pull, invasion or incursion, how do we determine? Like, obviously, act of war declared. That's by Congress. You have to look to see if Congress had declared war. Invasion or incursion says, as declared by the president.

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So the enabling statute here passed by Congress at the time of the founding fathers says the president gets to decide whether it's an invasion or an incursion. And once he's declared that, which he has here, he may deport people without due process, which is why I believe he did so. He was well within his rights to do what he did.

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And I think the rest of that enabling statute, Alien Enemies Act, kicks in, which says there is no power of judicial review under these circumstances. Now you go.

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Your anxiety can be a deal-breaker. But your thinking you're a woman when you're actually a man-rich woman is a bridge too far for this woke leftist judge who has already declared prior to her ruling last night saying the Trump executive order on this issue is null and void, that the notion that there are only two genders is incorrect. It is biologically incorrect, she says. What has it come to?

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Well, we'll get Andy and Mike Davis on here, and then we'll really talk about it. But I think the American public understands the political question doctrine, even if they don't know that that's what they're understanding. They understand that the commander-in-chief has certain inherent powers that the Congress may not and that the judges may not second-guess. Like...

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being commander in chief and deciding how many resources to devote to a certain war. You know, there are certain things you would, you, everyone would be outraged if a judge tried to second guess. It's not your turn anymore. And this is one of the problems in the judge trying to turn around flights that had already left us airspace.

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I mean, it's an incursion. We've got 10 to 22 million illegals. Listen, Rich, you got, I got to take a break, and we can resume this on the other side. But I have to say, you got almost 100,000 Americans who died just last year from fentanyl. which is being brought across the border by these folks, which is being made in the United States now by a lot of these folks.

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These labs are so easy to set up. And fentanyl, the size of a grain of salt, can kill many people. So, you know, you have actual American lives being cost to the tune of between 75 and 100,000 a year. Number one cause of death for young people in America. Yes, you can absolutely say invasion or incursion.

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That's as far as Megyn Kelly is willing to go. But the Trump administration is saying that they were sent here. And they were asked that explicitly and said, yes, Venezuela did do it.

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Judge Broseberg doesn't get to decide whether Trump has accurately deduced that there is an invasion. He's the commander in chief, not Judge Broseberg. All right. I'm sorry. I got to take a. Yeah, I got it. Broseberg. I got to take a quick break. We'll be back. Great debate, you guys. Stand by.

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First of all, guys, can I just tell you, you know, I'm at the beach this week because my kids are on spring break. So this isn't I'm not in my studio. And I was asking if I could get a coffee in here. And this is what they brought me. This is so sad. Well, look at this tiny little... I said, these people are obviously not in news.

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This term, it's in the courts. We saw them use the courts against Trump to try to prevent him from getting to be the presidential nominee and to be the president. And now they are using it to try to ruin his second presidential term. They used impeachment. twice during the first term. Now they're using the court's ad nauseum during the second term to try to block his entire agenda.

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No self-respecting news person would ever just have a tiny little espresso cup with a coffee. In any event, I need it just to keep up.

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Yes, that's respectable. I appreciate that. Okay, before we leave the topic of lawfare, we have to talk about Chief Justice Roberts. So so like out of nowhere yesterday, I couldn't believe it when I saw the statement circulating on X. I'm like, did he just drop this? Like this wasn't in a case. No, he just decided now would be a good time to drop this.

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Now, I will say in his defense, but I'm I'm not defending this. Trump tweeted out that Judge Boasberg should be impeached and, you know, said all the stuff. He's a hack, whatever. Well, Trump's done that. You know, he's constantly criticizing judges. This is not the first judge he's done that to. Did anybody watch what happened during the law fair?

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So Roberts came out around noon yesterday with the following statement, quote, For more than two centuries, it has been established that impeachment is not an appropriate response to disagreement concerning a judicial decision. The normal appellate review process exists for that purpose.

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By the way, in a potentially ill-timed motion that came late in the day, there was a congressman who moved to impeach Judge Boasberg, which is... It's like a little... It's unfortunate when you've done that. And then within moments, the chief justice has said this is inappropriate.

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So, Charles, this woman, again, unlike one of her bosses on the U.S. Supreme Court, Katonji Brown Jackson, she does appear to be able to say what a woman is. And she wants, or at least she's got thoughts on gender, on how there's more than two. She'll state that affirmatively, there's more than two. And that's a biological fact, according to this judge. It's absolutely absurd. And that she...

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But it kind of gets to the very nature of what's wrong here, which is it's really not for Chief Justice Roberts to say, Rich. I mean, I respect the chief justice. I respect what he does for the country. But Congress is in charge of whether a judge gets impeached. And it's really not any of his damn business.

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So and Trump leader said he was saying he was thanking the chief justice in those words for swearing him in.

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Not only that, Charlie, but Judge Boasberg is a big boy. He's the chief judge in the District of Columbia. It's right underneath the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals. He can take the president's mean tweets and he can handle a congressman saying he ought to be impeached and starting impeachment proceedings, which Rich is right, will go nowhere.

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Why is Chief Justice John Roberts pretending like he's got to be the daddy of this judge or any other when he's been remarkably silent recently?

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When justices came under death threats, when Chuck Schumer was on the steps of the Supreme Court threatening them that they would reap the whirlwind, when Judge Aileen Cannon was being attacked relentlessly for handling the Mar-a-Lago documents case, including threats of impeachment.

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I don't remember him releasing statements, setting the record straight on how an errant federal district judge ought to be handled back then.

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You of all people, you love the Constitution. This is a remedy. Congress has the right to impeach federal judges.

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He didn't say that if Congress impeaches it... Well, it's been established that it's not an appropriate response.

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in her ruling took such issue with the Department of Justice arguing on behalf of the Department of Defense because Trump's executive order on this, which was clearly a Pentagon thing, said it's important in the military to be able to be able to serve with integrity and honesty and in wellness.

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is for the Democrats in Congress to say. That's what the Democrats should say in response to this motion to impeach that's been filed by this Republican congressman. He's not Democrat in chief, and he's not the daddy. This is one of the problems with Chief Justice John Roberts. He's not the daddy of the judiciary. He's not. His oath is to uphold the Constitution, and he too often...

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must we go back to Obamacare, decides to maneuver in a way that would protect the court as opposed to in a way that would uphold the oath.

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It's very different. Speaking up against a threat. I mean, that's like a direct threat against justices is one thing that I I didn't remember that he did that. But that just knowing it is completely appropriate because they were being threatened by the majority leader of the Senate. But that's this is not what's happening.

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This is a procedure that's available to Congress to impeach a rogue federal district judge, which is what many people think about Boesberg right here, given the discussion that you and I just had. And it's not for John Roberts to weigh in. Maybe he'll get his time on the Boesberg decision. But this is not the time. And I'll tell you, I agree more with Mike Davis, who tweeted out the following.

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Dear Chief Justice John Roberts, for more than two centuries, he's playing off of the words used by Roberts, it has been established that impeachment is a political decision by Congress. An activist judge ordering planes to turn around during a national security operation is not a judicial decision.

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It is a highly illegal and extremely dangerous sabotage of the presidency, which is an impeachable offense. Your statement is not an appropriate response. The normal impeachment process exists. And here's just one more, which I would love to ask you about, Rich.

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Julie Kelly writes, for more than two centuries, again, Congress has abdicated its oversight role related to the federal judiciary, creating a crisis of confidence among the American people that is quickly destroying trust in the third branch of government. And she fixed it for you to Roberts.

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And she said that's them accusing all trans people of being liars, which, I mean, not for nothing, but you could make the case. If you're looking at me and you're Charles C.W. Cook and saying you're a woman, yeah, I'm probably going to think you're not telling me the truth. But in any event, she got in this lawyer's face and said, oh. That shows animus.

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But I think that raises a very interesting point and captures the angst and anger that so many Americans are feeling right now as these judges try to stop the Trump agenda in its cradle. with decisions like the one we kicked the show off with by Judge Reyes, right?

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That there is a federal judiciary creating a crisis of confidence by overstepping their remit and then absolutely no oversight role being exercised by Congress or by anybody else, you know? That's her frustration and it's the frustration of a lot of Americans.

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Yeah, they're not going to be the votes for it, but they're trying to make a point that he's way out over his skis. I mean, yesterday what we saw was the ACLU feeding him the questions that they wanted the DOJ to answer about these planes, and he just did it hook, line, and sinker. This is what the ACLU wants to know. You better answer it.

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And so now we have the commander-in-chief removing gang members from the country, having to answer to the ACLU exactly when, where, why, who, all of it, And again, it's very controversial given the discussion that happened in the first hour of this show.

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Okay, on the subject of lawfare, one of the people that Trump is trying to deport is Mahmoud Khalil, who was a Columbia University student, who was the spokesperson for a very controversial group on campus called the Columbia University Apartheid Divest Group. And that was the group that took Hamilton Hall hostage recently. committed tons of property.

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I mean, we showed the video on Monday, but I mean, less people forget it was extremely riotous, broke the windows with hammers. They threatened Jewish students. They didn't allow Jewish students to get from A to B on campus. We could go down the list, but very controversial stuff. And he was their spokesperson saying you divest from Israel, Columbia, or you get more Hamilton halls.

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That's how this is going to go. Now he wants to play the victim and the left is only to help happy, happy to help. He's got some 19 lawyers representing him for free. Well, he decided to write a letter, guys, dated yesterday. It's long, but I'll read you just a couple highlights. My name is Mahmoud Khalil, and I am a political prisoner.

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I write to you from a detention facility in Louisiana where I wake to cold mornings and spend long days bearing witness to the quiet injustices underway against a great many people precluded from the protections of the law. writes about how he was allegedly accosted, along with his wife, by the DHS agents. When he got to 26 Federal Plaza, I slept on the cold floor. He's obsessed with the cold.

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It's like hatred by President Trump towards trans people. And what should I do to you? Should I ban this guy? This lawyer went to the University of Virginia Law School. Should I ban all University of Virginia lawyers from this point forward for being liars? This is part of why the DOJ filed a misconduct complaint against this judge after an earlier hearing. She's out of control.

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He should go back to Syria. It's very warm there. He's going to be much happier. In the early morning hours, agents transported me to another facility in Elizabeth, New Jersey. There, I slept on the ground and was refused a blanket, despite my, I'm telling you, the man, he doesn't, he shouldn't be here. The Northeast in March is no place for Khalil.

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My arrest was a direct consequence of exercising my right to free speech. He talks about how he was born in a Palestinian refugee camp in Syria. My unjust detention is indicative of the anti-Palestinian racism from both the Biden and Trump administrations, etc. Okay, he says... They're determined to support Israel with weapons to kill the Palestinians, blah, blah, blah.

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He goes back to the racism. President Shafiq Armstrong, he's talking about Columbia authorities, and the dean laid the groundwork for the U.S. government to target me by arbitrarily disciplining pro-Palestinian students arbitrarily, he says, and allowing viral doxing campaigns based on racism. and disinformation.

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Columbia targeted me for my activism, activism creating a new authoritarian disciplinary office to bypass due process and silence students criticizing Israel. That sounds just like Columbia, doesn't it? And then he ends it By saying the Trump administration is targeting me as part of a broader strategy to suppress dissent.

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Visa holders, green card carriers and citizens alike will all be targeted for their political beliefs. This comes as a U.S. district court has just decided that they will not. let this case be heard in the Southern District of New York, which is what Khalil wanted, nor will they let it be heard in Louisiana, which is what the DOJ wanted.

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They will have it be tried in the district court in New Jersey, which was the government's fallback because they brought him to New Jersey after detaining him in New York. So it's sort of a split the baby situation, but I think the Trump administration could be happy with New Jersey over SDNY, which is pretty far left.

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Your thoughts on whether he has been detained because of racism and Columbia worked to set him up and deprive him of his right to free speech, guys?

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But it wasn't read by his wife. It had a woman. Everybody thought that was the wife.

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I think you called that the king's card in your discussion with Andy on his podcast. That's well said. Yeah, but that's despite all the debates over the laws and the rules and the way you can deport somebody, et cetera.

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Marco Rubio has this ace in the hole, which says there is an explicit statute saying the secretary of state can deport you if he thinks you pose a reasonable threat to the foreign policy of the United States. That card has been played on Mahmoud Khalil, it's over and no one cares how cold he is without his blankie.

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He took the campus of Columbia University hostage and acted as a spokesperson for the group that was threatening a lot more mayhem, Charles. I mean, it doesn't matter whether it was actually charged as a crime by Alvin Bragg, what he was doing. very much looks like extortion and conspiracy under the criminal law to me. And you don't even have to prove that.

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All you have to prove is Marco Rubio made a reasonable determination.

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Here we go again, C squared. Let's do this. It's irrelevant. It's something that he used to pull on the heartstrings of the judge, but it has absolutely no legal relevance that you're married to an American or about to have an American baby.

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Well, no, but I mean, of course, U.S. person is a term of legal art, which, you know, but it's it's it's not synonymous with American citizen. It's not. You're not allowed to get public benefits. You're not allowed to vote. There are all sorts of rights that the three of us have as Americans that he doesn't have.

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One of the reasons the Democrats and the left left are getting all these favorable rulings is because they're judge shopping. They're they're making sure that they file these cases in the most leftist jurisdictions that they possibly can. And and trying to get, you know, a good judge. That's why they wanted this case with Khalil to stay in the SDNY. It's why they're thrilled with Judge Boasberg.

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Judge Chuang, who just did the USAID ruling. All these people are left-wing appointed judges, and so they're thrilled. But unfortunately for them, we have a Supreme Court that right now is 6-3 with the conservatives, notwithstanding Chief Justice John Roberts and Amy Coney Barrett, who's been slightly soft. So we'll see how she does.

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But I think in the end, I feel like Coney Barrett will do the right thing. I don't know about the chief judge. And that's a 5-4 situation. ruling in President Trump's favor on, I think, most of his agenda, which will be ultimately upheld. Okay, let's keep going. That's Khalil. He was not held because of racism.

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He was certainly not held because of some discrimination by the Columbia University administrators. Good God! They let them hold the university campus and abuse Jews for months. I mean, it just went on and on and on. And now he's got the nerve to claim this is racism against him.

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We've got to spend a minute on, as long as we're talking about double standards, Tesla. and Tim Walz. We got to talk about Tesla and Tim Walz. So Elon Musk's company and Elon Musk are under attack from coast to coast. There's this new campaign to vandalize Tesla vehicles, Tesla dealerships, to key, you know, when you take your key and you scrape, you scratch, you

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which is very expensive to fix, the side of a Tesla car. Some people are throwing Molotov cocktails at the Tesla vehicles. And again, we've seen even vehicle dealerships targeted. This is Elon Musk is quickly becoming the left's favorite target, even more so than Hitler, fascist, orange man, bad Trump.

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And what we saw, what we're seeing now is some Democrats sound awfully close to defending those attacks on Tesla and the dealerships. You know, they're smart enough not to say that explicitly, but they're sounding awfully close. Before I get to walls, here's left-wing operative and Hillary Clinton BFF, Neera Tanden versus Scott Jennings on CNN last night.

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of uh war would support punishing people who are violent wherever they are so uh they're very upset they're legitimately upset they're doing it on their own and we should really be condemning january 6th in this in this moment as well your your thoughts on that one charles

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It's appalling. Rich, we did have... The almost vice president of the United States, Tim Walz, decided to weigh in on this. And here's what he had to say in response to Elon Musk. I mean, obviously, in response to Elon and what he's doing with the federal government and all that. But here's what he decided while Tesla's under attack, while Elon's under attack. This is his message yesterday.

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So your thoughts on that, as this is one of the largest American manufacturers and employers of Americans that we have, but he's celebrating the drop in stock. This not to mention, as Elon Musk rescues our two astronauts who were stuck on the International Space Station. It's just your thoughts.

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And they have very compliant, willing district court judges appointed by Obama and Biden helping them, helping them. They are trying to block Trump's clear constitutional powers when it comes to who serves in the military, in his military, of which he is the commander in chief. You've got some woke LGBTQ female justice judge who thinks she knows better.

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Same, thank you for saying it so clearly, could not agree more. She goes, to me, this is like she's looking for a pat on the head from GLAAD or the Human Rights Campaign. She's waiting for Sotomayor or Katonji Brown Jackson or Kagan to say, good girl, you're a good little girl. You wrote all the right things. Kagan, not for nothing, is, she's gay, isn't she?

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I don't know why that just got away from me. I'm pretty sure Kagan's gay.

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But we can admit it into evidence. Okay. But this is what she writes in part. Okay. At times, leaders have used this concern to ensure military readiness to deny marginalized persons the privilege of serving. Fill in the blank, which is she writes those words, is not fully capable and will hinder combat effectiveness.

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Yeah, these guys are so out of touch and just embarrassing themselves. I mean, the more the better. Tim Wall should stay out there talking. And Chuck Schumer, too. I guess he doesn't realize how uninspirational he is. The thing with Tim Wall is like, we're going to kick their ass.

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All I could think of when I listened to him was that viral video that was on YouTube when YouTube was really first taking off with that little girl. And she's like, he's going to come out of the movie. He's going to kick my ass. Remember that one? The mom's kind of laughing like you can't say that you say. But anyway, that's who he sounded like, except far less cute.

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OK, we've got to get to this incident on CNN, which I've been promising the audience for days and just haven't been able to get to. Bill Weir, who is a far left radical climate activist, is the chief climate correspondent on CNN. And he covers, as a result, EPA and now Lee Zeldin at EPA.

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And he went on Caitlin Collins show late last week with a, quote, fact check of an EPA press release about what they're doing over there as they try to reform or really kind of undo some of the extreme, quote, reforms that Joe Biden put into place. Here is what he reported.

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EPA administrator, the guys are shaking their heads for the listening audience. EPA administrator Lee Zeldin took to X the very next day writing another media fact check face plant where the fact checker doesn't have the slightest clue what he is talking about. And he says, these aren't zeros. They are the letter O. O-O-O-O is not a typo, says Lee Zeldin.

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40 CFR, Code of Federal Regulations, Part 60, Subpart O-O-O-O or Quad O is a federal regulation under the Clean Air Act. And then goes on to explain exactly what they are doing. They are they're letting people know that they're about to have open debate on whether the EPA can, as Zeldin feels, change those increased standards that the Biden administration put on. I think it's methane producers.

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But in any event, Charlie, your thoughts on Bill Weir's so-called fact check as the CNN resident expert on these issues.

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Fill in the blank will disrupt unit cohesion and so diminish military effectiveness. Allowing fill in the blank to serve will undermine training, make it impossible to recruit successfully and disrupt military order. First, minorities, then women in combat, then gays filled in that blank.

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This is what happens, Rich, when your left-wing activism blinds your obligations as a reporter.

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So here's the thing, though. So this guy, Bill Weir, I don't know if you guys are probably nobody's familiar with him because no one knows who he is. But he being in the business and on cable news, I've been watching this guy for years and he is as rabid a partisan as they come. He was at ABC. Now he's at CNN. And I want you to know just how rabid.

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OK, let me just start with his climate activism and just radicalism. All right. Charlie and Rich, you both have young kids. Imagine doing this to your child on Earth Day. All right. He published a letter on CNN.com to his son, River, marking the child's fourth Earth Day, where he warned of mass extinction. And here's what he wrote. April 22nd, 2024. This is just past April.

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there are still dark days to be sure. And since you love animals so much, I can't bring myself to explain just how many of your favorites are on Extinction's Brink. And while technology in the hands of the soulless can divide us, it can also connect the helpers in ways that can save entire ecosystems. This is a follow-up to his 2020 version of his letter to his then-newborn son,

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where he wrote, quote, the milk in your bottle was warmed by dirty ancient fuels. And as a result, you will learn to walk on a planet that has never been this hot for humans. Charlie, is that what you wrote to your babes when they were first born?

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Today, however, our military is stronger and our nation is safer for the millions of such blanks and all other persons who serve. Now, first of all, that is not her judgment to make. She is not commander of the armed forces.

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Your dirty milk, my terrible fossil fuels. So that's how he talks to his son. Rich, you have a newborn baby. I'm sure you're writing her letters just like that. You probably have to run right now to do it.

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Yes. All right. So he ultimately was forced after being publicly shamed to issue a correction on CNN, which he did. That's good. That's a bare minimum that's required of people. But if you look at this guy's actual reporting, taking away his mental deficiencies as evidenced in those letters, it's, of course, completely biased, pro-Obama, Biden, anti-Trump.

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And I've got to just show you these couple of examples before we go. All right, here he is. Just see if you can tell me if you can spot the difference in the way he reported on Trump, which we'll play first, versus Obama, which we went back and just pulled some of his coverage of the Obama inauguration. We're going to play these two back to back, 24 and 25.

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And there actually are hot debates going on in this country right now about not minorities, but adding women to positions, for example, in combat has made us the strongest we've ever been when it comes to our military readiness. That's something that she... This is not for her to opine on, Rich, and for her to try to treat... transgender individuals the same as blacks or Latinos is outrageous.

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Yeah, the seagulls must have been awed by the blanket of humanity, he reported at the Barack Obama inauguration, as opposed to Trump. He wants us to go to hell.

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That's exactly right. Anybody who's been to the beach, including Jersey Shore, knows that. It's really incredible. And that's why I would submit for the record that Bill Weir's, quote, mistake on Caitlin Collins, which, by the way, she shared in, was no mistake at all. It was an agenda masquerading as journalism, which is why he got humiliated. Charlie Cook, Rich Lowry, love having you guys here.

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respectfully debate. But you know what? I've heard Charlie make this point before. That's what's so great about podcasts, right? You can have a full discussion like this. Imagine trying to do this on an hour at Fox News, Charlie. You never could have.

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All right, guys, you can hear more wonderful analysis over on The Editors, a podcast I love and listen to. The only downside to it is they only put it out twice a week. Great to see you guys. OK, tomorrow we have Gabby Petito's parents are here with me.

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And then we're going to take a deep dive into things like Snow White and that debacle with our culture panel that went over so big after the Oscars. They're back by popular demand. Don't miss that. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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One is skin color and race and one has to do with a mental disorder that's in the DSM-5.

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She goes on to say as follows. Stand by. OK. It is self-evident truth, she posits, that all people are created equal. All means all, nothing more and certainly nothing less. So, Charlie, she's suggesting that trans people are being treated in a way that makes that renders them unequal and that this is not allowed in our military, which is not true.

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Who the hell elected you, Judge Reyes, as commander-in-chief of the military? And not just the military. You got the border. You got hiring and firing inside the executive branch and much, much more. And this is nowhere near over. Perfect guests for today. It is an NR day here at the MK Show. Charles C.W. Cook, senior editor and host of the Charles C.W. Cook podcast.

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Okay, she's rejecting the Pentagon's position because one of the justifications they gave her when they got sued over this was the costs associated with so-called gender-affirming healthcare, which is a complete misnomer. Gender-affirming healthcare would say, here, I'm a shrink. If you were born a boy, you remain a boy. That's what it should be.

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But it's, of course, one of those terms that's been manipulated by these leftist activists. So in any event, she's saying that the military has said, look, providing this so-called health care to trans people for their gender procedures, because right now we're paying for their surgeries.

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Well, maybe not right this second because Trump signed the EO, but actually it's not effective till the end of March. So we are paying for their surgeries. We're paying for their hormones, their cross gender procedures, all of it. And the military went in there and said, look, we're we're paying five point two million dollars a year for this stuff.

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And Rich Lowry, editor-in-chief of National Review. You can find all their work ad-free with an NR Plus membership. You don't go out and buy a life jacket when the boat is sinking and you don't buy gold when the economy has already collapsed. Clearly others are heeding this advice as gold hit all time highs already this year. It's not too late for you too.

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And she responds by saying, well, that's only fifty seven hundred thousandth of a percent of total military spending. for 2024. So once again, Judge Reyes thinks we've elected her to be the chief accountant over at the Pentagon to decide what's worth it and what's not. And then she has the nerve to point out the department spent approximately 41 million for Viagra in 2023.

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41 million for Viagra, about 5.2 million for gender-affirming care. Defendants do not explain why the former and every other medical cost is acceptable, while the latter requires banning trans people from military service. This is unbelievable, Rich, because...

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The defining story of President Trump's second term, the ongoing incredible battle between his administration and the courts over the limits of executive power. A wave of court orders blocking executive actions has been met with congressional Republicans now launching impeachment efforts against some of the judges responsible.

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On Tuesday, Texas Congressman Brandon Gill filing articles of impeachment against D.C. District Court Judge James Boasberg. Judge Boasberg temporarily blocked the Trump administration from using the Alien Enemies Act of 1798 to deport suspected Trenda Aragua gang members.

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President Trump lending support to the articles of impeachment, writing on Truth Social, quote, "...this radical left lunatic of a judge, a troublemaker, an agitator, who was sadly appointed by Barack Hussein Obama, was not elected president." This judge, just like many of the crooked judges I am forced to appear before, should be impeached.

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As President Trump endorses efforts to impeach left-wing D.C. judges blocking his agenda, Chief Justice John Roberts makes a rare, unsolicited public statement.

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Chief Justice John Roberts wading into the issue with a rare public statement on Tuesday afternoon. The Chief Justice writing, "...for more than two centuries it has been established that impeachment is not an appropriate response to disagreement concerning a judicial decision. The normal appellate review process exists for that purpose."

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The DOJ is currently locked in the appeals process fighting lawsuits that allege executive overreach. Judge Boasberg drawing prosecutors into a related legal battle, questioning whether they violated his Saturday order, demanding the return of two planes deporting Tren de Aragua members to El Salvador.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Wednesday, March 19th, 2025, and this is your AM Update.

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The Trump administration, backed by Supreme Court precedent, asserting these courts have no jurisdiction over the president's ability to deport illegal alien invaders. White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller making the case in a contentious interview on CNN.

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In a separate case, a different federal judge stepping in to block another key Trump initiative, realigning foreign aid with America's first priorities. On Tuesday afternoon, U.S. District Judge Theodore Chung, an Obama appointee, ordering Doge to reinstate access to email and other electronic systems for all U.S.

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AID employees and contractors, finding that Elon Musk and Doge overstepped their authority as non-confirmed executive operatives. Judge Chung writing, quote, they deprived the public's elected representatives in Congress of their constitutional authority to decide whether, when and how to close down an agency created by Congress.

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Judge Chung did not block the mass termination of USAID contracts and employees. And last week, Secretary of State Marco Rubio announced the cancellation of 83 percent of USAID programs, with the remainder moved under the State Department.

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Israel resumes military action in Gaza as President Trump secures a key breakthrough in Ukrainian peace negotiations and a long-awaited promotion for the IRS whistleblowers who were penalized for exposing concerns in the Hunter Biden tax investigation. Yay! All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Why?

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And yet another leftist judge, Ana Reyes, a Biden appointee, last night blocked President Trump's transgender military ban, rejecting the Pentagon's justification that it needs the ban to ensure military readiness by saying military leaders have long used that excuse, quote, to deny marginalized persons the privilege of serving.

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Judge Reyes, who previously stated that the idea of two sexes is not, quote, biologically correct, suggesting she felt that the former Biden chairman of the Joint Chiefs' stellar military career

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was a better military resource for her than the current Secretary of Defense and his opinions, who she erroneously suggested had, quote, no prior deployments aside from, quote, an early military career prior to his TV stint. In fact, Pete Hegseth was deployed to Gitmo, Afghanistan, and Iraq. The DOJ filing a formal misconduct complaint against Judge Reyes with the DC Circuit Court of Appeals.

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It also says it will appeal her decision on the transgender ban. On Tuesday evening, astronauts Suni Williams and Butch Wilmore returning to Earth nine months after their planned eight-day mission on the International Space Station began. The return capsule safely splashing down off the coast of Florida, first greeted by a pod of dolphins.

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their original mission marking the first manned flight of a Boeing Starliner to the International Space Station. The astronauts returned nixed by NASA due to safety concerns over helium leaks and thruster malfunctions on the vessel. In August 2024, NASA officials announcing the Starliner would return to Earth unoccupied and that the astronauts would eventually return home on another vessel.

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NASA contracts with Boeing and Elon Musk's SpaceX to ferry crews and supplies to and from the ISS. Mr. Musk telling Joe Rogan he offered SpaceX's services to retrieve the crew, but the Biden administration rejected the proposal.

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NASA disputing claims the astronauts were left in space for political reasons. They say Suni Williams and Butch Wilmore were simply folded into a new crew rotation that arrived on the space station last September for budgetary reasons. Israel resuming military strikes on the Hamas terrorist organization after two weeks of failed negotiations to secure the remaining hostages in Gaza.

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Hamas was willing to release all remaining hostages, but only if Israel fully withdraws from Gaza. The Israelis refusing to withdraw unless Hamas is no longer in power. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu urging Palestinian civilians to move out of harm's way. laying the blame of any civilian casualties squarely on Hamas.

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In recent weeks, President Trump fully endorsing any measures Israel deems necessary to secure the return of its citizens. An Israeli spokesman outlining their new plan for securing peace and the return of the hostages.

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59 hostages remain in Gaza. The IDF believes only 24 of them are still alive, including American citizen Idan Alexander. Coming up, President Trump achieves a significant breakthrough on Ukrainian peace negotiations, as well as the broader possibility for peace in the Middle East.

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And if you get a post-purchase survey, tell them you heard about Cozy Earth from me. Sanctuary awaits at Cozy Earth. President Trump achieving a significant breakthrough in brokering a possible ceasefire in Ukraine. In the second phone call between President Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin, Mr. Putin agreeing to halt attacks on Ukrainian energy infrastructure for 30 days.

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The two countries are now focusing on brokering a ceasefire in the Black Sea, then ultimately a full ceasefire and permanent peace. That's the hope. This next phase of negotiations beginning immediately in the Middle East. The White House readout of the call also stating both sides agreeing on potential cooperation in the Middle East.

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Presidents Trump and Putin reportedly agreeing on the need to stop proliferation of strategic weapons in the region, like long-range missiles and nukes. Since resuming office, President Trump telling reporters on multiple occasions he aims to eventually convince all world leaders to reduce strategic weapons stockpiles.

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President Putin also agreeing the Iranians should never be in a position to destroy Israel, signaling a potential shift in Moscow's position on Iranian military ambitions, though the extent of their commitment remains to be seen. The IRS whistleblowers who investigated Hunter Biden for tax evasion getting a promotion after facing years of professional retaliation.

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In the spring of 2023, criminal investigator Joseph Ziegler and supervisory special agent Gary Shapley came forward with allegations the DOJ was working to protect Hunter Biden from a tax fraud investigation. The agents were removed from the case after reporting the DOJ's obstruction to their bosses at the IRS.

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In September 2024, Hunter Biden ultimately pleaded guilty to nine charges of tax evasion. Last month, the Office of Special Counsel found agents Shapley and Ziegler were wrongly retaliated against by the IRS for going public with their allegations. On Tuesday, Treasury Secretary Scott Besant telling Fox Business the agents are receiving a long overdue promotion.

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The agent's investigation into Hunter Biden originating in 2018. Mr. Biden's name was found in connection with an FBI investigation into a foreign pornography website. Subsequent digging determining Mr. Biden's habit of failing to file his taxes at all or improperly reporting his income. Agents Ziegler and Shapley testifying that as Joe Biden's 2020 presidential campaign gained momentum.

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Their investigation faced increasing interference from their IRS and DOJ supervisors. The agents alleged they were denied access to certain financial records. They were blocked from executing search warrants and prevented from interviewing key witnesses, including Hunter Biden.

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Agent Shapley telling congressional investigators they were explicitly ordered not to ask witnesses about the big guy or dad, which they believe to be a direct reference to Joe Biden.

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The agent's testimony before the House Ways and Means Committee and the Oversight Committee, forcing the investigation into public view, Justice Hunter Biden was preparing to accept a sweetheart plea deal from prosecutors. In July of 2023, Agent Shapley explaining on The Megyn Kelly Show why he and Agent Ziegler felt compelled to go public with their testimony.

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Their disclosures of DOJ interference derailing the sweetheart deal, leading to further legal scrutiny and ultimately Hunter Biden's guilty plea to multiple tax evasion charges in 2024. In December, of course, President Joe Biden wiping it all away with an unprecedented pardon for his son Hunter, covering all potential criminal offenses dating back to 2014. And that'll do it for your AM Update.

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So Zelensky would do well to just be quiet for a while to see what Trump can accomplish. And when Trump brings it to him, it will be a proposal and he can react accordingly. But instead, he's been yapping the whole week long about Trump. There's no deal on Ukraine without Ukraine. Well, he knows that. All right.

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Patricia Heaton as the grandmother. I watch anything with her. Her values are so intact.

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So, I mean, I'm sensing a theme in the projects to which you are attracted. I mean, I think anybody would have taken the lead in Shazam. Any actor in Hollywood would have killed for that. But it also has an uplifting message. I mean, part of what we loved about it was just how sweet it is, the relationship amongst the family. And also it made you laugh.

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But realistically, you'll probably do what we tell you to because your war ends without our support. And everybody knows that. So we're kind of doing you the courtesy of allowing you to appear like you are in charge. But everyone knows without our money, this thing goes away. You lose. You would have lost week one. The Europeans have donated some, have supported some.

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Like I was trying to explain it to my friend. I'm like, it's not like he's not like a scary superhero. He's funny. He's goofy. You know, you're totally rooting for him. Um, but then like the Kurt Warner American underdog dog, that story is amazing. It's one of the best American stories.

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I think I mentioned this to you last time you were on, but I, my first husband was obsessed with the LA Rams and they've moved around anyway, but he was obsessed with Kurt Warner and was reading that autobiography or biography camera. I think it was his autobiography on our honeymoon. So I got to know all these facts about Kurt Warner. At first I was like, this is so boring.

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Stop reading me football excerpts. And by the end I was like, I'm reading that book right now. Yeah. You know, who who marries a single mother with a child who's challenged and has all sorts of challenging disabilities? No man who's like on his way up in the football world, you would think would say, yeah, this is where I want to park the car. I want in on this situation. But Kurt Warner did.

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He was backbencher. He only got to play because the first stringer got hurt and everybody was like, oh, bullshit. Kurt Warners were in the socks. Yeah. And sure enough, it was just such a great story, right? MVP of the football game. So I'm just sensing a theme in the stories that you select that they all have heartstrings and they have these like classic American stories.

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But let's be honest, their coffers are a lot more shallow than ours are. And we're the number one player in making this thing go away. So that's why Trump is taking the lead. He's dealing with Putin directly. And Zelensky just keeps dropping these not helpful statements. And I think Trump has about had it because he just issued a truth, you know, a truth social. And I'll give you a couple.

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Let me show him a little bit of that. We have a bit of that captured in clip 20.

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There's quite a line that he has there that you delivered of, I used to think it made me ambitious.

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All right. So stand by. Let me see if I can find these on my phone. Oh, gosh. Can you guys send them to me again? My team sent them to me and now I can't find them now that we're actually live on the air. Stand by. I will get it to you. Here it is. Oh, no, shoot, that's not it. Are we live? Is this happening live?

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And so they make you, they make you write the lists. Now people like keep a gratitude journal where you must write down three things a day is the ideal that you're grateful for. It's just, it's the whole exercise of it. But I think it's, it's interesting that you, you're feeling emotional as, as you're discussing this, because when,

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when I read your bio and read up on you in advance of today, the last time we didn't do that, I just thought you were an interesting actor who was getting kind of political and that was interesting. But you, you're interesting. You've had quite a background and I'm now having gotten to know you a little bit better.

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It's no mystery at all to me why you've chosen the projects that you've chosen or why you're doing so well with them or why you feel emotional now discussing it because you have had your own lifetime of struggles And it's probably what drove you into acting for many reasons. And it's what led to your initial frustration in choosing a profession, which is overloaded with rejection, right?

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Before you made it. And I'm sure there's still some of it now, but the whole journey makes a lot more sense to me.

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I read this, I think, from your book about you're talking about how with your mom and the glass of water. Can you tell that story about how you just picture a glass of water condensing on the countertop?

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Trump basically called him a dictator and put him in his place saying, you know, why don't you take a seat because we're doing something here and you're not being helpful. Here it is. Think of it, he writes on Truth Social.

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You kind of learned, you said that like, you believed if I could just be better, if I could just be a more perfect boy, then I can please her.

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A modestly successful comedian, Volodymyr Zelensky, talked the United States of America into spending $350 billion to go into a war that could not be won, that never had to start. but a war that he, without the U.S. and Trump, will never be able to settle. The U.S. has spent $200 billion more than Europe, and Europe's money is guaranteed, while the U.S. will get nothing back.

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Well, I think it's interesting just as an explanation of your life's choices and of how difficult it must have been for you in the earlier, leaner years of being an actor. You know, because like that you chose a profession that is also destabilizing, not predictable, full of rejection and difficult personalities and probably a fair amount of mental illness. Let's be honest. Oh, yeah.

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That's very interesting. You know how they say you marry the best and worst qualities of your parents? Yeah. It's like kind of what you did in your job choice.

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Well, that's an interesting pivot point in your life when you moved to Austin because your career was going well. You had started in two series. You'd done multiple projects. You moved to Austin, which everybody loves. You know, we were just talking with another guest who moved to Austin, loved it. But... It didn't start off that way.

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When you got down there, that was sort of your crisis point where you really thought about ending it all, despite the fact that you'd already starred in TV series, on primetime television. Like many actors, I think you found it wasn't the Holy Grail. It wasn't going to fill up everything. And you got very, very low. So you mentioned this last time we were together.

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We didn't have a lot of time to talk about it. But can you just talk about how that hit you and how you then got out of that? Because that was before Shazam.

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You remember that Trump struck the deal the other day, or was starting to, that would allow for us to have access to Ukraine's natural minerals as collateral for our money. But nobody even thought of that. Biden was just handing them boatloads of dollars without any promise in return. So Trump is saying here that we spent $200 billion. Europe got a guarantee. We never did.

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No, no, no. There's a, there's a now famous clip of, uh, JD Vance and me in 2017, when I did this long profile in him on NBC, it's on YouTube. You can Google everybody's seen it at this point, but where we, we kick off the interview by me ticking down, um, raised in a house with domestic abuse, check. Raised in a house with alcoholism, check. Raised in a house with divorce, check.

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And these are all childhood trauma, CTEs, childhood trauma experiences. And he had all of them. I mean, so you're absolutely right. Like trauma, maybe one of those could be mild for somebody, could be severe for another, but a bunch of them in the same family leads to kind of massive trauma that must be dealt with at some point.

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Why didn't sleepy Joe Biden demand equalization and that this war is far more important to Europe than it is for us? We have a big, beautiful ocean as separation. Obviously, Europe is part of Ukraine and Ukraine's part of Europe and Europe has to worry about this war, which is in its backyard, not ours. On top of this, Zelensky admits that half of the money we sent him is missing.

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No, I had a loved one go into one of these facilities for over a month, and it was completely life-changing.

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And, but it was exorbitant. I mean, it was extremely expensive. It was like $80,000 and truly no one can afford that. Nobody can afford that unless they have an extraordinary job and there's no insurance.

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That's exactly right. He admitted that it's gone underreported, but we've got over $100 billion that's just kind of gone. And Zelensky's admitting it. And by the way, if you said we don't trust him, we think this man should not be entrusted with the American dollars, you would be called all sorts of names as recently as like six months ago. But it's a valid concern.

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I went to therapy for years. I had such a great guy. I haven't seen him in a while, but I love him. And he gave me so many useful tools to deal with stress or anything, sadness, conflict. It's just about widening your arsenal. That's what it's about.

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He's admitted that it's gone and no one knows where. He says Zelensky refuses to have elections, is very low in Ukrainian polls, and the only thing he was good at was playing Biden like a fiddle. A dictator without elections, Zelensky better move fast or he is not going to have a country left.

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Before you make another payment, consider a visit to donewithdebt.com or call 1-888-322-1054 right now. Speak with one of their debt relief strategists for free. Go to donewithdebt.com. That's donewithdebt.com. Last we left off, we were in Connecticut. We were in the therapy place. And you're doing well. You're two and a half weeks into it. You'd already rejected Shazam.

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Only because... Not because you were too big for Shazam. Well, the audition for it.

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Yeah, yeah. Because you didn't think you were going to get it. You thought this was kind of like a chain jerk.

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So now they come to you two and a half weeks into this Connecticut facility.

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In the meantime, we are successfully negotiating an end to the war with Russia, something I'll admit only Trump and the Trump administration can do. Biden never tried. Europe has failed to bring peace, and Zelensky probably wants to keep the gravy train going. I love Ukraine, but Zelensky has done a terrible job, his country is shattered, and millions have unnecessarily died, and so it continues.

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Thank you, friends at Sirius. I love it. And this seat will be occupied momentarily by Zach Levi, who is here in the building and on his way up. And I'm looking forward to speaking with him. There's a lot to go over today. And you know what? Before we get to that. Picking up on our AM update. I don't know if you guys listened to the AM update this morning. It was our first morning podcast.

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But sometimes you need to feel unsettled as a cue that you're not on the right path.

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And let me tell you why this is so bad for Zelensky. It's because recently, Trump, since he took office, was sounding not neoconny. Trump is not neoconny. You know, J.D. Vance and Tucker are much more in the non-interventionalist camp. That's very large within the Republican Party. I would say Trump is... Close to them, but not entirely aligned with them.

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And so set the stage for us since nobody listening, virtually nobody has auditioned to star in a Hollywood movie, much less a superhero movie. What size is the room? How many people are in there? You're walking in, you've just come out of therapy from this intensive program. Is it an intimidating setting or how is it?

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It's not a whole... Who's more important in that setting, the director or the casting director?

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It was perfect for you because you did have a background in being funny. I mean, in acting. Did I? Yeah.

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And I love being in it. I have a child playing Ursula in the eighth grade play. Do you? Yeah, coming up, coming up.

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But, yeah, so big things are happening in our house, too. Yeah. We haven't put her through quite that level of scrutiny yet. So you do it. And then how soon thereafter do they tell you you got it?

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He's still got like a toe over in, not neocon camp, but you know, he's not afraid to drop a bomb on a guy like Soleimani. He's, you know, if the situation calls for it, Trump will be more bellicose, both in his language and then ultimately in his behavior. And What Zelensky doesn't want to do is saber-rattle Trump over to the J.D.

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And then I can give you a 50. It is like the way we look at our children with the most generous lens and very quick to forgive.

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What year is this? What point in time is this? So now you've gotten cast and you're gonna start shooting.

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So that's seven and a half years ago. And since then, it's been just nonstop, right? I mean, it's just been, it seems like you've been on a tear.

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But it's all good. But you're a working actor doing great projects on the big screen.

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Why did Bill Maher think that you'd been canceled when you went on with him in December?

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Vance Tucker side, where Ukraine will get even less than Trump is trying to negotiate for them. Right. Trust me when I tell you they'll do better under Trump in a good mood than they will under Trump in a screw you Zelensky mood. So this is not smart behavior from a guy who has very few chips with which to bargain.

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Why did she reach out to you? Did she see that you were in our game?

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You gotta sacrifice. You gotta sacrifice. I've told the audience before, when the Trump team asked me to speak for him at his last rally before the vote, the night before election day, is not something a journalist would normally do. That is crossing a line that you just don't normally cross.

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And even this whole show, my transformation into more of a pundit, a journalist too, but my daily job is more punditry, has been an evolution. But that's a bigger line to cross. And I really, same as you, I was like, I don't know if I should cross that. It's like, not because of blowback, but just because it's a before and after moment for me, for sure, as a journalist.

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But like you just said, I truly did feel called. Even my husband's like, I don't think you should do it, Meg. Nothing against Trump. He was a Trump supporter. But he's like, you know, you don't want the blowback. It's not a line you have to cross. And I'm like, honey, I got to do it. I don't know why. I just know I do. And I was so glad I did it. Right.

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I didn't feel ashamed, bad on the precipice of waiting, you know, the gunfire that would be the rhetorical. Yeah. I felt totally empowered and like I was in exactly the right alignment, you know, whereas I was supposed to be. So I completely relate to what you're saying.

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But now for me, the blowback would just be mean articles written about me by my fellow people in the press, which I've had millions of for you. It could be that could cost you your career. Potentially at that point, you have to be thinking it could cost me my career.

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Trump spoke to what's happening between the U.S., Russia and Ukraine from Mar-a-Lago on Tuesday. Here's top five.

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I think part of the call that you heard and answered was part of a bigger thing that's happening in the country at the same time, which is more and more people feeling that same connection with Trump, with his message, with what he actually stands for, not what the left says he stands for.

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Just the dawn of a new day in America where we're no longer obsessed with identity politics and dividing each other based on things we can't control about one another. The very foundation of the Civil Rights Act and the 14th Amendment and a lot of things that are foundational to our country's evolution that we've been eschewing for the past decade plus. And Trump

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We are ready to go back to our foundational beliefs and not dividing each other like that and having open debates about controversial subjects and listening to a guy like Bobby Kennedy instead of just dismissing him as a kook and listening to Tulsi Gabbard's different views on the Intelligence Committee, even if they're loathed by by more Republicans on the panel than they are by the Democrats on the panel.

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Let's listen. Maybe she's got some good ideas. The whole country was just ready for that, you know. Let's, you know, like you do with the Etch A Sketch. Let's just, okay, we need a cleanse.

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You made a passing comment. You're saying people that we have to keep in mind that good people are losing their jobs. Not everybody should lose their jobs. Yeah. And in an appeal, I think, to Trump, you know, even MAGA people are losing their jobs. Exactly. And then, of course, the left spun that back on you. You only care about the MAGA people. Yeah.

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I actually thought it was kind of cute that you defended yourself and posted, like, follow-up tweets. Like, no, that's not what I was doing. I'm well past that point. I'm like, fuck off. Yeah.

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And I don't... They're not honest brokers. They don't actually want to hear any explanation.

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You have a much higher opinion of the dialogue on Twitter on X than I do. Let's go. I almost feel the need to apologize when I say something nice on there. Like, forgive me. I'm just going to be nice for a minute. But I really have something lovely to say. Even though Elon has said he wants it to be nicer.

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You're a much sweeter person than I am. I think the audience knows that though. Now, wait, I know the answer to this, but were you raised Catholic? Christian? Yes. But Catholic? I can't remember the denomination.

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Well, you must be feeling pretty good about your decision in the wake of the Pope. Have you seen that he's weighing in on Trump's immigration policy? He's in the hospital like he could be dying, but he took a moment to condemn the determination to deport. He seems OK, according to a statement with the those who have committed additional crimes in addition to being here illegally.

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But he's really upset about us wanting to deport Trump. people who are just here illegally. He seems to want us to believe we have some moral obligation to let them stay in the country. This from a man who lives in the Vatican, which is surrounded by a big, big fence. God bless Pope Francis. I don't wish for anything terrible to happen to him. He is very ill in the hospital right now.

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Well, that's the other piece of it. And I think we all know that's true. He has a different relationship with Vladimir Putin. And Putin would have been more, if not afraid of Trump, then respectful, I think, of the power that Trump yields as the United States president. Trump went on to say, yeah, I can end this war. And honestly, everyone knows that.

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But I'm sorry, the nerve. This is not what Catholics need right now, which is to have the leader of the church scolding the American president for his immigration policy. This is what makes people dislike religion.

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I don't think the Catholic Church is getting paid to help all these immigrants.

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It's made me think twice about putting money in the basket on Sundays. Like, what am I what exactly am I supporting?

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I don't want to have to think about that crap. I don't want my church doing that.

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The Pope's not having any meetings in the short term. I mean, he's actually truly not doing well. So, I mean, I'm praying for him. I don't want him to die. I don't want anything bad to happen to him. But he's very elderly, and this is a serious lung problem. I don't know how this is going to go.

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But, you know, to me, it's actually kind of crazy because we're right in the midst of this Oscar season. One of the films nominated is this Conclave, which is absolutely sacrilegious. It's a disgusting film, in my opinion. They make the new Pope—spoiler alert— um, intersects, meaning he has a vagina. It's like, okay.

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So he really, like, again, Zelensky's playing with fire. Take a listen here to SOT6.

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So now God forbid the Pope dies and we go through a conclave, which is the process by which they elect the new Pope. Of course, this is like, we're going to be like, can, could we make sure it's a man? Is it at a bare minimum?

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Could we, and it's going to be an explosive thing for the Catholic church if, if, and when it, I mean, when, when it ultimately happens, because there's, there is a battle for the soul of the Catholic church right now between. It's a battle for the soul of the world. Yes. People who are genuinely committed, look, who have more conservative views and those who are far left.

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And we have a far left Pope right now, which has led to the consternation of a lot of diehard Catholics when it comes to the Latin mass. There's a lot of issues. All right, wait, I want to shift gears because before we leave the RFK discussion and God, by the way, this ties it all together. He did take over at the National Institutes of Health at HHS this week.

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And he made a comment, which he's made before, but it doesn't get old, on how meaningful it was for him and how important Trump has been really in changing Bobby Kennedy's life. Listen.

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So that's where things stand now. Look, if he strikes a deal with Putin that allows Putin to have some most it's going to probably going to be most of the territory that they have taken in Ukraine, but also says and and also says that Ukraine will not be joining NATO. Putin will accept that deal and Zelensky is going to accept that deal.

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And here it's like, even if you are against Trump, if you're against Bobby Kennedy, whatever you believe about him, like, listen to what he's saying he's going to do. Listen and ask yourself, wouldn't this be great? What's so bad about this? Here he is going on in soundbite eight. Take a listen.

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They're doing studies on like trans fish and COVID vaccines and how many 14th, 15th versions we need. This is exactly it. He hit all the stuff that's unhittable. Who the hell else is talking about EMF and that glyphosate? I can never pronounce it. That's all right. But they're spraying it all over our wheat, which is why it's in every box of pasta that you buy.

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And you don't even know it's in there, these pesticides that are all over our food. Both parties are guilty. The Republicans represent a lot of farmers, too. We love our farmers. But the farmers, too, I'm sure would love to find some way of getting rid of these toxic chemicals so they don't have to swim in them all day.

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And they can create products that are actually healthy and good for us and taste good. No one's even talking about this other than him. Yeah.

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Same as they're going to try to derail every step of Doge. Every bit of it, but...

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That has been more out there in the conversation, but it's very bold for the HHS director to say we actually are going to be looking into these. It's just Americans are taking the antidepressants like they're candy and they don't realize why they're not getting better. And then they up the dosage and then they try a different one and they up the dosage there.

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And there's no actual public health official being really straight with them on the downsides of these drugs and how there might be alternative ways not to rip on those drugs. They have been helpful for a lot of people, but they're not for everybody. And it's the first line of defense. My friend has a daughter in college.

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And she went to like the college counseling place because it can be a difficult adjustment. They try to push an SSRI on her. It's like, for the love of God, maybe just talk to her. Do talk therapy. Do cognitive behavioral therapy before we just knee jerk give the drug.

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He's going to have to have security to ensure that they will not be attacked again. And it seems like the Europeans are prepared to give them some forces. Trump is saying no U.S. forces. We're not going to be the peacekeeper over there. Great. I think we've all had it up to here with that kind of role for the United States across the world.

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Yeah, that's the point. We don't have to have this on our wheat. We don't have to eat our pasta and our bread like this.

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We're going to be offering that now during the weekdays. It's just a 15 minute straight news update for folks before they start their day. But it was mostly about what's happening with the settlement, the resolution of the Russia-Ukraine war and how Trump has really taken the lead. Hello, somebody had to. and is having direct meetings with Putin.

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Ron Johnson was just saying that this is a top priority for him. He's from Wisconsin. They're onto it now.

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I will be honest that I have not found a great solution for the fruit and vegetable problem, like getting it fresh. I was talking to Casey Means, good energy. She's and her brother, Callie, amazing. But I'm like, how do I do that? Because I don't live in California. I can't go to the wonderful farmer's market in the middle of February. It doesn't exist in Connecticut.

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And I'm sure there will be some sort of additional financial investment, which Trump will now say will be repaid, in essence, by the earth materials, the raw earth materials that we can get out of Ukraine, which is very valuable. So that's where we are. It's a precarious situation, but it's going to be handled. And the only thing that could clear the deal is Zelensky shooting his mouth off.

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And even the ones that do don't have the fruits and the vegetables this time of year. And she was like, you can get your own inside farm. I don't see that happening. I got to be honest. We got to come up with a different solution, something that's workable.

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You know who does the indoor farming and does it really well? Elon's brother, Kimball Musk. Really? Yeah. He's got a crazy indoor farming program. He came on my show on NBC and I was amazed. It's like, if he didn't have Elon as a brother, this guy would be super world famous. Everybody would want to talk to him. It's tough. It's tough when he's your brother. All right, stand back.

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We're going to take a break. We're going to come right back. More with Zach in just a minute. When it comes to grocery shopping and meal planning, it's often stressful and time consuming. Between busy schedules and personal demands, finding the time to shop, plan meals, or cook healthy dishes from scratch is challenging.

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Oh, so sweet. That is a clip from Zach Levi's new movie. It's called The Unbreakable Boy. It's a great film. It's out this Friday. And in it for the listening audience, you see Zach's character go out on the basketball court with the mascot's head on because his little boy was going to be the mascot but didn't want to do it. And the boy's got the rest of the tiger outfit on, just the body part.

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And with all the dad's crazy dancing and fearlessness out on the court.

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Oh, so congratulations. Thank you. So you've got this movie hitting and you've got a new baby coming.

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That's good. Yeah. You're letting them be a surprise. I love that. Yeah. Um, do you worry? Like, I know I have a dear friend and she's come on the show and talked about this openly. So I feel like I can repeat it, but her it's, she's an actress too, or now she's a newswoman, but Melissa Francis, she starred when she was young in little house on the Prairie and many other things.

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She was the next generation of Ingalls along with Jason Bateman. Anyway, she wrote in her book, one of them, Diary of a Staged Mother's Daughter, about her own mother's mental illness and how she worried, you know, like, am I going to have that? Do I?

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I have that anytime, you know, we all feel crazy here or there, you know, in once in a while, but it's different when you have a parent who actually does or did have mental illness. And now I'm sure with your next generation, it's yet another thing. So how do you process that?

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Or do you just feel like you're good because you worked through, you're not mentally ill, you didn't have what your mom had.

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I think it's only going to triple your blessings here. It's going to make you even happier. Yes, you lose sleep. It's so worth it. It's a nothing, you know, in the lung. And one, one so easy. Ladies, isn't it one so easy? He's such a cute baby with his just one little baby. It's going to be so fun for you guys. Well, hopefully we'll have more. All the blessings in the world to you.

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Thank you so much. Thank you for being here. Oh, good luck with it. The movie, the baby, all of it. Zachary Levi, everybody. Check it out. The Unbreakable Boy this Friday. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear. The IRS is the largest collection agency in the world. And with April 15th fast approaching, it's more aggressive than ever.

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That's ground, G-R-O-U-N-D, news.com slash Megan to take back control of the news you consume. Today, we've got a very special guest. His name is Zachary Levi. You may have seen him on this broadcast. You may have seen him on some other shows around the cable nets and so on. He's a big Hollywood actor. He's Shazam. That's how my kids know him.

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I know him from the Kurt Warner movie in which he was amazing. And he did something especially courageous, especially for those in Hollywood this year, and that was he came out as an open supporter of of Donald Trump and of RFKJ during the primary. All right, so first it was RFKJ and then he endorsed Trump.

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Despite the inevitable backlash, everyone knew it would come, but there's something interesting happening with him. I don't know that it has come. It's like somehow I think we might have found the one Hollywood celebrity who wasn't an open Republican, who endorsed Trump and still has a career. It's one of the mysteries of life.

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We discussed the last time why he felt the need to speak out and his support of the so-called Trump Avengers team, Tulsi, RFKJ, and so on, when he was first on the show back in October. It was episode 928. We didn't have time to go through his fascinating life and career, so we get to do that today with him.

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in studio but first here's a quick refresher uh on zach on screen i hope i'm not interrupting no not at all that's from is from batman because that makes it better hi how you doing the name's flynn ryder

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Amazing. That's the last one from Shazam. He's got a new movie out in theaters this Friday, and it's called The Unbreakable Boy. It is a heartwarming story about the ups and downs of navigating life with an autistic son. And we'll get to that in just a bit. Zach, welcome back.

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And Zelensky of Ukraine is very unhappy and continues to sort of yap about it. Now, with all due respect to Mr. Zelensky, this thing was just on and on and on with no progress until or hope of resolution until Trump got directly involved, till he got elected and stepped in there and actually started to say, look, let's be realistic about how this thing is going to land.

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I know. You never get to do it in person. I love coming down to the SiriusXM fishbowl. And, you know, they broke out the NFL desk for us. How about that?

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This is the football desk. They don't do this for just anybody. I want you to know that.

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So I want to kick it off with your movie because I think this is perfectly on brand for you. I think the Kurt Warner thing was perfectly on brand for you. Of course, Shazam just has mass appeal. That's on brand for anybody. But like, this is great because it's about, it's a story about love, family, challenges, faith.

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And I think given your new found, like huge fans on the right who appreciate not just how you act, but what you stand for, this is right in the sweet spot.

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Because the child has a couple of disabilities or challenges. And he's, you know, no parent understands how to handle that naturally. And so he's very open about how it wasn't easy. No.

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Let's show them a clip so they get a flavor for what we're talking about. Let's watch Sod 18, part of the trailer.

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The first round of peace talks to end the war in Ukraine concluded yesterday in Saudi Arabia. The meeting between the U.S., led by Secretary of State Marco Rubio, and the Russians, led by Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, lasted approximately four and a half hours. Mr. Rubio telling reporters he was pleased with the initial progress, outlining four points of agreement so far. One, the U.S.

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Both sides will work to examine areas of potential cooperation and both geopolitically and economically, after the war has ended. And four, the bulk of the negotiations will be delegated to other people. But the attendees of today's meeting will remain engaged in the process.

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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky repeatedly expressed dissatisfaction with the Trump administration's approach to these negotiations, the Ukrainian leader not holding back at the Munich Security Conference.

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President Trump responds to the Ukrainian president's complaints about being left out of initial peace negotiations.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Wednesday, February 19th, 2025. This is your AM Update.

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In multiple forums, Mr. Zelensky has stated there can be nothing about Ukraine without Ukraine. Mr. Zelensky was slated to visit Saudi Arabia yesterday as well, though not as part of the negotiations. That trip was rescheduled to a later date. Mr. Zelensky instead visited Turkey, where he suggested future peace talks should take place with Ukrainian participation.

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The Ukrainian leader does not believe that Russian President Vladimir Putin is serious about finding a lasting peace. President Trump addressed Zelensky's concerns last night from Mar-a-Lago.

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President Trump also calling out the Ukrainian president's declining poll numbers. In Saudi Arabia, Secretary Rubio came away from the meeting believing the Russians are serious about beginning negotiations.

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New York Democrats revolt over Mayor Eric Adams' immigration cooperation with the Trump administration. And President Trump's labor nominee set to face some friendly fire on the Hill. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update.

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National Security Advisor Mike Walsh, also a member of the delegation, maintained that communications between the U.S., European allies, and the Ukrainians are ongoing. President Trump said that he would be fine with European leaders stationing troops in Ukraine as part of a lasting peace deal.

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French President Emmanuel Macron and UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer have both stated they support deploying a European peacekeeping force. The date for the summit between President Trump and President Putin is not yet determined. The Hamas terror organization tells Israeli officials the bodies of Shiri Bibas and her two young sons, Ariel and Kafir, will be returned later this week.

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Ariel, aged four, and Kafir, just nine months old. when they were captured on October 7th, 2023. The youngest hostages taken in Hamas's savage attack that left about 1,200 dead. Shiri and her boys with their red hair last seen in a video taken by their captors. Just awful. She was seen wide-eyed and desperately clinging to her son's. surrounded by Hamas soldiers carrying rifles.

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Kefir, who would now be two, never celebrated a birthday outside of Hamas custody. Israeli officials have yet to confirm the deaths. Yarden Bibas, the father of the boys, was also captured by Hamas on that day. He was held separately from his wife and children. Earlier this month, he was released alive.

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Six living hostages remain in Hamas's custody, two of whom have been held in Gaza since 2014 and 2015. They will all be released on Saturday. Three were originally expected to be freed. The reasoning for the accelerated timeline is unclear. Coming up, the fate of New York City Mayor Eric Adams is in Governor Kathy Hochul's hands, and the latest on the health of the Pope in just a moment.

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HungryRoot.com slash MK, code MK. New York City Mayor Eric Adams fighting to retain his position after the DOJ drops corruption charges against him. Governor Kathy Hochul weighing whether or not to remove the embattled mayor from his post. A quick timeline of events. On February 10th, Acting Deputy Attorney General Emile Beauvais ordered the DOJ to drop charges against Adams.

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The charges were brought under the Biden administration. Several federal prosecutors resigned over the dismissal, alleging It amounted to a quid pro quo. Mayor Adams is cooperating with the Trump administration's efforts to crack down on illegal immigration. Last Friday, the Democrat mayor sat down with Fox and Friends side by side with border czar Tom Homan to discuss their cooperation.

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Mayor Adams' decision to cooperate with the Trump administration facing serious blowback from fellow Democrats. On Monday, four deputy mayors resigned from their positions. Governor Hochul spent yesterday in a series of meetings with top officials and influential community leaders. Mayor Adams taking a lot of crossfire from his fellow Democrats. Reverend Al Sharpton.

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equated the mayor's cooperation with the Trump administration to political blackmail. Rival mayoral candidate State Senator Zellner Myrie saying Eric Adams no longer works for New Yorkers. He works for Donald Trump. The power to oust a mayor has never before been utilized in New York.

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Hochul released a statement that reads in part, overturning the will of the voters is a serious step that should not be taken lightly. That said, the alleged conduct at City Hall that has been reported over the past two weeks is troubling and cannot be ignored. The AP reports about two-thirds of New York City voters would approve of Governor Hochul removing Mayor Adams.

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President Trump's nominee to head the Labor Department, Lori Chavez-Durimer, will take the hot seat today. Her confirmation hearing held by the Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee is set to begin at 10 a.m. East. Ms. Durimer may face the toughest questions yet from Republicans. A GOP Senate insider telling the New York Post Rand Paul is dead set against her.

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He is whipping against her right now. He's telling everyone who will listen how much he hates her. Ms. Doremer is a longtime union ally. As a member of Congress, she backed the PRO Act. That act ultimately failed in the House, but it would have banned right-to-work laws in more than two dozen states. President Trump worked hard to court the union vote.

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Sean O'Brien became the first president of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters to speak at the RNC last July. Politico reported in November that O'Brien was pushing behind the scenes for Ms. Doremer to get the nomination. In the ultimate plot twist, Democrats tend to approve of the pick. Senators Tim Kaine, Tammy Baldwin, and Ed Markey have all spoken positively of the nominee.

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Senator Chris Murphy of Connecticut telling Punchbowl News Ms. Dreamer was among the best picks Democrats could hope for. Oh, boy. Kash Patel cleared another hurdle in his nomination process to lead the FBI. Despite strong Democrat opposition, Mr. Patel appeared to have the votes to pass. If his timeline mirrors that of Tulsi Gabbard and RFKJ, his final vote will likely be held tomorrow.

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Pope Francis facing a lengthy hospital stay following a diagnosis of pneumonia. The 88-year-old pontiff admitted to Rome's Gemelli Hospital on Friday after a week of struggling with bronchitis. The Vatican releasing a statement describing the pope's condition as, quote, complex. They say the infection has spread to lung air sacs, a potentially dangerous development in elderly people.

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This is just the latest in a string of medical episodes suffered by the head of the Catholic Church. About a week and a half ago, Pope Francis only got halfway through his homily before breathlessness forced him to hand it off to an aide. This was not the first time such a thing has happened. The Pope has a long history of lung problems.

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Part of his right lung was removed when he was just 21 years old. We will closely monitor the Pope's condition and deliver updates as they come. Well, that'll do it for Episode 1 of your AM Update. Hope you enjoyed it. I did.

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I'm Megyn Kelly, and we'll be back here for The Megyn Kelly Show in just a bit, live on SiriusXM Triumph Channel 111 at noon east and on YouTube.com slash Megyn Kelly, as well as all podcast platforms.

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She stole the whole show, the terrible one, but she was fit and able to move, unlike our current president. And then we've got an update on those drones. They're slipping the truth inside of their lives now. What was it? Rego, Rego, Rego. Uh, ray gun, ray gun. Okay. It sounds like a toy that we're going to get our kids for Christmas.

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Well, yeah. I mean, I used to love it. When I grew up going to Broadway when I was younger, it wasn't like this. And I know it's woke and I know it's always been very gay. That's just different. That's different. There's a reason more and more groups are going LGB.

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LGB and breaking up with the T because they see the T as a group that wants to perform conversion therapy on young gay boys to say, you're not actually gay. You're actually a girl, a straight girl. And so like, it's very dicey now for them to be embracing the T so heartily. In fact, we went to a play not long ago and one of the actors in the play noticed that

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me sitting there and I had done a post on my Instagram celebrating the show. And one of the actors responded saying, Oh, it was great to see you there. You know, you should have come backstage and say, have said hello. And then these trans people get on there. Like we will cancel you. You, you like her. You said something night. Like they're so over the top now.

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And even if you try to go there and say, all right, I'm going to ignore these far left extremists who are trying to trans little boys, they make it impossible. They're everywhere. Every other role is a trans role now, far more representative than it is in society.

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And to the point where it's like fine for a Supreme Court justice, they've hijacked girl empowerment plays to make them about boy empowerment, which is what a trans, quote, woman is. And she's fine. This is the same person who couldn't tell us what a woman is, Adam.

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And Sonia Sotomayor was the one who, two weeks ago, when that case about whether these states are allowed to ban puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones for kids went up, she was like, oh, come on, there are side effects from an aspirin, too. There are risks. As if taking an aspirin is the same as puberty blockers into cross-sex hormones for a 10- to 12-year-old.

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Well, and there are certain narratives that are not to be allowed or ever deemed acceptable. And the thought that we are transing children who are actually fine in their... sexed body, but just going through some sort of unrelated trauma, you know, whether they've been sexually abused or they've had a divorce in the family or they've been bullied, you're not allowed to go there.

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They consider that conversion therapy of a trans kid. So, you know, there are like these narratives that you're not allowed. And one of the narratives that's prohibited outside of the trans lane is that we have a Venezuelan gang migrant crime problem in Aurora, Colorado, right?

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I, this was up, this came up a lot during the campaign and, uh, back and forth and back and forth between the left and the right on whether there really are gangs of Venezuelan illegals in Aurora, Colorado, taking over apartment complexes. You remember it led, uh, excuse me, to this notable exchange between Martha Raddatz and JD Vance when he went on her show and she was like, it's fine.

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She lives in a multimillion dollar estate, which we put on the screen before. Just a quick follow up. Okay, so here was Trump on NBC last week. Okay, we're still at it. The mainstream media trying to say these are lies.

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That's right. Go ahead. And so here, so Trump just last week goes on Kristen Welker's Meet the Press and listen, what happened.

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Okay. We knew he was telling the truth. We knew J.D. Vance was telling the truth. And guess what? Guess what just happened? 14 detained in armed Aurora, Colorado home invasion are likely illegal Venezuelan gang members, according to local police. I mean, days after that exchange with NBC where she knew it's not like, oh, well, it happened after. No, it's been happening.

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Yeah, this is the exchange I had with Bill Maher when I went on his show, too. He was like, oh, like Americans don't commit crime. I'm like, we have to take them. We can't kick the Americans out. We can put them in jail. We can't kick them out. Why are we having to deal with the Venezuelan illegals committing these kinds of crimes? And listen to the one that I just gave you the headline of.

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This is at... A group of apartments, again, where we were told by the mainstream media they had not taken over. And here's the story. They kidnapped two victims, a male and a female, and assaulted them. Thirteen to fifteen gang members, mostly male, some females, entered an apartment where two people were inside.

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They took the migrant victims to another apartment at the same location where the victims were threatened and bound. Pistol whipped, beaten and stabbed. Even the local police chief saying, yeah, sounds like torture to me. And then they described this as follows. The Aurora police chief, Todd Chamberlain, on Tuesday described a bit of the crimes. Top five.

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I'm just like, do you think Martha Raddatz or Kristen Welker will be playing this story and that soundbite? It's just people are being I don't know. Are they being misled? I think Democrats are being misled. I think they believe these sources still and they still are scratching their heads like I don't get it. Morning Joe told me that she was going to win. And also Joe Biden was fine.

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Another person obsessed with race is this representative, Jasmine Crockett, who is constantly, constantly playing the race card, accusing everybody of racism on Capitol Hill. Here she is talking about what the gang problem is to her. Take a listen.

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She's from Texas. Texas getting bluer and bluer. But that's their representative out there spewing that nonsense in response to Trump's original claim back at the debate.

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I mean, wow. Speaking of the Duke lacrosse case, right? Right. That's right on point with what just happened this week with Crystal Mangum finally admitting she made the whole thing up. I mean, like I don't know. Do you think they were having a debate about this on the editors this week, uh, the national review podcast, which I love.

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And they were asking, do you think the Duke lacrosse case would have unfolded the same way today as it did back in 2006? Would we be more circumspect about this woman's allegations in 2024, almost 25 America or Or would the media have run with it tenfold and even more egregiously than it did?

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Okay, so I guess let's start with Stephanopoulos, who is humiliated and very angry, according to the reports, that this has happened to him. The New York Times goes inside the suit and talks about how executives had expected or had anticipated that there would be a blowback to settling this.

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The ladies of The View are among those who are just baffled at the right-wing backlash to Caitlin Clark coming out and saying, when nominated or honored as Time Magazine's Athlete of the Year, I do want to acknowledge my white privilege. and point out that what would really be nice is for the black women on whose backs this league was built to be spotlighted and elevated.

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They don't get why, especially post the Trump election, many of us saw that as an absurd statement for her to be asserting her white privilege as opposed to her athletic accomplishment. and getting this honor. They don't get it, Adam. They're not going to get it, no matter how many times Trump or a Trump accolade wins an election, national or state, et cetera.

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He can crush all of us. Oh, can I tell you something? Speaking of he, I like Caitlin, actually. And I mean him. No disrespect by using he. He knows why I do it. But there was just an unbelievable ruling out of your state. You won't be surprised to learn it's so annoying. There was a judge out there. Okay, hold on. A judge in California said, I got to back up just to explain what happened.

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A man who had never said he was secretly a woman. He was feeling like a woman inside until he was convicted and sent to prison for a long, long time. Then suddenly he decides when he hears that they've changed the rules in California, such that men who say they're female can go into women's prisons. I'm trans. I'm trans. Well, he gets transferred to a woman's prison. And guess what he does?

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He raped somebody. He allegedly rapes a female prisoner. And now he's in the middle of a trial for that crime. He is in the middle of being tried for that crime. Well, guess what? Here's what happened. Um, This is according to the Women's Liberation Front, which is attending the trial and documenting what's happening.

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The California DA for this area, Eric Dutemple, gets into court and argues this man raped this female prisoner. It's deeply wrong, blah, blah, blah. And the prisoner objects, saying he needs to refer to me as a she and her. The male prisoner who committed the rape, I'm she, her. the judge pauses the proceedings to take it under consideration. Well, guess what?

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Yesterday, the judge made a final decision or maybe yesterday, the day before yesterday, And the decision is that the prosecutor must refer to the defendant, male rapist, as a she-her during the trial, which we believe is a first for a criminal case. This is unbelievable. The prosecutor has to stand up in front of the jury. This is him. This is our woman. This is she-her.

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But they're in full revolt over there at ABC News, where they feel that the reputation has been unnecessarily sullied, that they didn't feel they should have settled with President Trump. And yet The Times pointing out that Disney had many reasons. Number one, there was a judge, Judge

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The prosecutor has to say she raped the female inmate. What in the actual F, Adam?

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This man, this picture of this man insisting and succeeding in being called she, her in court was taken, what is it, March? April? This was last April. This is not like 10 years ago before the transition. This is a man working the system, and those idiots in California are allowing it. They couldn't give two shits about it. about the female prisoners in California. They don't care.

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It's absolutely outrageous. And by the way, that judge's order should be appealed. It's unconstitutional. You cannot force speech like this. You cannot force this compromise of the victim's rights by confusing the jury in this way. I don't think this is going to be they should appeal it. This should not be allowed. OK, a couple of things I want to get to. Have you been following the drones?

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Al Tanaga, chief judge in the Southern District of Florida, who had denied Disney's motion to dismiss with some very strong language saying a reasonable jury could interpret Stephanopoulos' statements as defamatory and then added in italics, Stephanopoulos stated 10 times that a jury or juries had found plaintiff liable for rape, which was obviously not true.

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Well, everybody in the Northeast is talking about it because everyone's seeing them. They're everywhere. And first we were told we weren't. And then we were told, oh, it's nothing. And then we were told, oh, it's just the same amount of drones that are always out there. Like you're just, you're inventing it in your head. You've heard the story and now you're seeing what's not there.

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Totally untrue. That's just not true. Then yesterday, finally, the Pentagon and others came out and said, oh, it's like a collection. It's like hobbyists, commercial fixed wing aircraft and also law enforcement. A lot of law enforcement, like they just drop it in there. Like we're, yeah, we know that that's what it appears to be. It's, it could be federal law enforcement. It could be CIA.

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It could be FBI. It could be Pentagon. That's all law enforcement. And now the speculation is, of course, what are they doing up there? What law enforcement, what are law enforcement drones looking for? And here is New Jersey mayor of Bellevue, Michael Melhan with some new information. It's hot 12th.

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Like, we've lost radioactive... This is like a scene out of Back to the Future, Adam. Like, remember Doc stole a whole thing of plutonium to make the DeLorean run? Where's our radioactive material? And is that what the drones are looking for? We don't know, but this is why people are freaked out.

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Yeah, enough credit. Yeah. Let me show you back to back Biden on the drones on Tuesday and Trump on the drones on Monday. Watch this.

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And then they pointed out something we speculated about the other day, which was she had also rejected request to delay the case. And Disney was told to turn over all remaining documents related to the case. Trump's lawyer told us they'd only given like one document.

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Such a difference. For those who couldn't hear Biden, what he said was nothing nefarious, apparently, but they're checking it all out. There's a lot of drones authorized up there. I think one started and they all got everybody's want to get in the deal. And then there was Trump. They know. And they should just tell people.

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Okay, the media story everyone is talking about has continued to evolve with reports now that George Stephanopoulos over at ABC News is defiant and humiliated after ABC agreed to pay Trump $15 million to settle his defamation lawsuit against the network over their star host's false and misleading segment with Representative Nancy Mace. You know, I went back to look at the so-called apology.

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I don't think he knows. That's the question. I don't think he knows either. At this point, runny, I don't know, like very soft boiled. I mentioned at the time of the show, there's a New York Times article called A Weary Biden Heads for the Exit. They talk about how he's falling asleep. At his international events, he went to some museum. They had to bring the exhibits out to him.

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As he walked away from one event, everybody there cowered in fear that he was going to tumble over. And they say it's hard to imagine that he seriously thought he could do the world's most stressful job for another four years. A lie the New York Times was peddling just months ago, Adam. But now it's really hard to imagine how he thought he could do it.

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And so they had to produce not only all the emails with Stephanopoulos on them among his producers and so on, but he was going to have to sit for a deposition, which we knew. They were also worried that this could set an industry standard. In other words, this could go all the way up to the U.S.

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This shall be the legacy. Adam Carolla, always great to see you. Thank you so much for being here.

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Supreme Court and New York Times versus Sullivan, which sets a very, very, very high bar for problematic speech, for finding speech problematic, could potentially be overturned. Anyway, what do you make of George Stephanopoulos' indignity at what has happened to him, Adam?

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Justine joined me way back in 2021 in episode 81, which you should definitely go back and check out. We were just babies back then on this show, and she's been crushing it on social media since then, especially as of late, saying how many of us feel

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after the seismic 2024 election, but in her case, it's especially brave because she is a Hollywood person, and you know how it is to be honest about politics out there. She's also been sounding the alarm about the dangers of AI, which we discussed yesterday with guest Tristan Harris. You should go back and listen to that if you haven't heard a very scary story about something called character AI.

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Justine, welcome back to the show. Hi, good to see you again. Oh, great to see you too. So we'll get to the AI stuff. This is really, really interesting, but how do you feel now? Here we are one month and a couple of weeks post the November 5th seismic change in America. And I don't know, I mean, you, I know you don't say who you vote for, but how are you feeling about the future?

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Let me ask you this, because I look back at the beginning of the Me Too movement, and in the beginning, I think there were some noble... moments. You know, I am thrilled that Harvey Weinstein's no longer in power, but Les Moonves is no longer in power. You know, some real villains, at least with respect to the way they treated women went down. And I loved that.

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I think that's worth celebrating because we had been living in an era in which they had total control and women really did kind of have to go along to get along or just leave the industry, you know? Yeah. And then I really think like the pivotal moment was Kavanaugh, where they tried to Kavanaugh, you know, it's a verb now to be Kavanaughed, right?

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Where like, he's an alleged gang rapist and he's been on the federal bench for all these years. We never knew. And you know, who's pushing those claims? Oh, it's Michael Avenatti who would wind up in prison himself, right? For defrauding his own clients and being a professional liar and thief. So, So that was pivotal. But you're right, because there was a jump the shark movement.

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And I remember being on the set at NBC where I talked to a lot of these women. And there was one young woman who sat there and her complaint was that her boss was complimenting how nice she looked in her dress. And I remember saying to her, come on. Like what? And she was very defensive of how, no, like it's inappropriate.

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I, I just don't know how, like in the same way, like black lives matter, you know? Yes. Are there some incidents where we have some bad cops who do some very bad things? Of course. So then this momentum starts, but we just overcorrect everything to the point of completely bastardizing the movements.

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And there's a large segment of the population that when the movement breaks, it reaches the point of absurdity because it's been so exploited. They cannot get off the train. They just, they cannot admit that something that once may have had a noble goal or, you

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Admirable is no longer characterized with valor of any kind, is no longer about standing up for anybody who's downtrodden, but really more about being a bully and being a movement that gets used for someone's ulterior motives.

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It's going to take a while. That is such an interesting and apt point. I hadn't even considered that this weird cult status of this accused shooter, Luigi Mangione, who very much appears to have killed Brian Thompson, a UnitedHealthcare CEO, and is accused of such, that it's related to this cult. Well, the reaction, right? Yeah, they're looking for a new cause.

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Let me just give you another number and then I'll give it back to you. We talked yesterday about a poll that showed 40, 41 percent of 18 to 29 year olds, 41 percent approve abortion. of what Luigi did, allegedly, this murder, approve. Only 40% of that cohort says they disapprove. So basically tied.

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But the fact that it's tied on approve, disapprove, this murder of just his only sin was being the CEO of UnitedHealthcare is astonishing. And then here's more. This is Poll Tracker pointing out today, favorability of Luigi by age 18 to 29, favorable opinion of him. 39% of that cohort has a favorable opinion. 30% unfavorable. 30 to 44-year-olds, unfavorable, 29, favorable, 28.

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So it's basically tied. for 30 to 44-year-olds, whether they approve of this guy. And then as you get older, it goes down. Unfavorable within the 45 to 64, us Gen Xers, 49% unfavorable. Favorable 14, 65 and up. Unfavorable 63, favorable 5. But unbelievable, Justine.

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Mm-hmm. I definitely think it relates to like, we're kind of talking about the rise of wokeism too, the explosion of wokeism. And I think they're directly related to the loss of a national identity, a patriotic thread that binds us together. You know, when we grew up, that was instilled in the classroom. You'd stand up every morning and say the pledge.

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You know, I mean, we used to sing my country tis of thee in my class in the mornings. It was, and that's gone. And so is religion in the public square. which was absolutely one of the things that we saw the country founded on. And it's been erased and erased and erased and replaced with active school shooter drills. And there's a, there's a search for meaning here.

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They say in the New York Post, in an exclusive, George is defiant. One source tells, well, what does that mean? Defiant in what way? Like you had to issue the words of regret. Your company had to pay 15 million. You're no longer in first place. I believe it's related to that debacle of a debate.

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And also doing, I think, also raunchier. Like, you know, it used to be the kids were stealing the Playboys out of their dad's, you know, trunk at the foot of the bed. And now it's like graphic triple X porn available, you know, at the click of a button on the devices. And it's ubiquitous. I mean, I just had a guy on the show last week who I love named Dr. Leonard Sachs. He's a parenting expert.

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He's MD, PhD, went to MIT. only takes into account longitudinal focus group studies in giving his feedback. So he's not like a feelings type guy. He looks at actual data and studies of large cohorts of children to figure out what's what. And he was saying parents need to remain the primary influence in their children's life in 2024 America through age 18, 18. I said, what are you talking about?

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In the 70s, we had no parents. There were no parents anywhere. And we turned out fine. You could argue we turned out better than the current generations are looking to turn out based on some of the things you discussed. And he said it was different then because the culture would step in to fill some of the void.

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And the culture was family ties, shows with a message, shows with two parents, shows like Little House on the Prairie, shows like the Waltons. Music had a more positive message back then. You didn't turn it on and hear, as he always points out, the wet-ass P-word song. It was just very different.

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Yeah, it's disgusting. But I mean, you lived it. You were and remain. This is why how we all came to know and love you, a cultural icon, because of you. You were part of that messaging. And somehow we lost it. I do think the Internet was a big part in destroying it.

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There's been a revulsion after, you know, that night there was one and now there's been a mass exodus in their audience. And they want us to see what he's defiant. How? I mean, the latest news was he deactivated his X account. It doesn't really doesn't sound defiant, Adam. It sounds like a coward.

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Just like Puck, she kept getting brought back for the MVP edition and then, you know, the all-star edition because, and I'm one of the people who loved to watch her bad behavior on that show. It was highly entertaining, but I maybe...

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it has a different effect on a strong personality watching it for mild entertainment in the same way the Real Housewives does versus someone who's impressionable and looking to make a name for themselves or doesn't have that strong sort of sense of self, the strong id, and is looking to fill it up with something, that void.

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congressional Kardashian. That's what she seems like to me. She just wants to get famous and build her socials while she's in there. And then I guess parlay that into some sort of whatever pot. I don't know what her long-term plan is. I don't really care. Um, but I do think I thought about Trump a lot. He spent his life in the, in the public eye. He definitely attention is his oxygen. Um,

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But the thing about Trump that's been interesting is, yes, he was more crude. One of the reasons why he got such a negative reaction when he first burst out of the political scene in 15, 16 was, yes, he was saying things that the Republican Party considered anathema. You know, I mean, tariffs, that wasn't their thing, not being, you know, provably pro-life things. That was a problem for them.

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There are a lot of others more isolationist than the Republican Party, which was much more neoconny for many, many years. But really what was driving Republicans and Americans nuts about Trump in the beginning, many of them was he was crude. To your point, he did not sound like like Ronald Reagan, you know, the great orator, the great communicator when he was on camera.

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There are lots of reports of how Reagan spoke off camera that are pretty controversial. But on camera, on the national stage, Trump sounded very crude many times. And so it was jarring. But then he helped expose some of these other politicians and what they've been doing behind the scenes. Right. That is awful.

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You know, you think about just look at Joe Biden, how he's misused the Justice Department against his political opponent. I mean, he's also crude on camera, too, but not not this particular way. So my point is simply Trump was just the first one to sort of wear it on his sleeve, but behind the scenes behaved pretty well.

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Whereas so many of these other politicians knew exactly how to play it in front of the camera, but behind the scenes were complete and total douchebags.

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Well, a hefty dose of humility is definitely in order for most people. And believing in a higher power is a good reminder of the need to stay humble and how we are. We are humble human beings. We don't have all the answers. That doesn't mean Bob doesn't. All right, stand by. More with Justine right after this.

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We're going to ask her about those viral videos she did critiquing some of the meltdowns after Trump won. Have you seen any of these? Because they're very clever. Stand by. I'm Megyn Kelly, host of The Megyn Kelly Show on Sirius XM. It's your home for open, honest, and provocative conversations with the most interesting and important political, legal, and cultural figures today.

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That's exactly right. The defiant is I'm out of here. I refuse to participate in your conciliatory statement. I did nothing wrong and I'm not going to let my gazillion dollar paycheck force me into bending the knee here because I'm going to die on principle. No, that's defiant. This is not defiant.

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Let's just spend a minute on your critiques of these videos because it was such a clever way, I thought, to handle the insanity that broke out when Trump won. You approached it very forensically as a filmmaker and just kind of had some issues with the direction and the editorial choices by some of these people having the meltdowns.

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So for the listening audience, that woman literally has like a center part and a long head of hair on one side and a shaved head on the other side. Go ahead, Justine, your thoughts on her approach to her messaging.

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You're right, this piece introduces many questions. As part of the I'm shaving my head because I don't like the election outcome movement, this character has gone only halfway, yet no reason is given. The viewer is left wondering, is this a new movement? Does this represent those who are ambivalent about the election outcome?

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Or is the hairstyle of those who sympathize with both sides or someone who changed their mind midway? The setting is refreshingly not in a car, and yet we wonder why or what is beyond the fence. There's a fence behind her. What is it blocking? Is it blocking an illegally narrow walkway between two houses, something else?

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Deleting your ex account because you you're tired of the abuse you're getting from people who know you lied that he was not found liable by a jury for rape. Why is it so hard for him just to admit that?

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The bright open space above the actress's head also causes the audience to wonder, is this an escape hatch for the main character, for us? The camera is appropriately elevated, but it's unnecessarily unsteady. Tripods can be delivered to you the next day through Amazon. The editing is unfortunate because this is a short piece. All the dialogue can be captured at once.

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I like the ones where you call people out for not producing real tears. It's like as an actual actress, come on. You know, like you're kind of boning it in.

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But what's so clever about it is, I mean, that's what you're supposed to do. You're supposed to laugh at fools who behave so foolishly and they're meant to anger you. They're meaning to upset you, to motivate you to cry. And it's the appropriate response to look at a lunatic like that and just laugh like, okay, good luck in your influencer career. I've got doubts about how far it's going. Yeah.

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did you get any blowback on that? Like, are you, I know you're, you know, you're towing the line politically and you're not a political person, which I believe, but do you get blowback just, you know, just by saying, by not saying you're for Kamala, you can get blowback in Hollywood.

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That's how we referred to it the other day. I think that was erroneous. It wasn't really an apology. It was we regret the statements. George Stephanopoulos regrets the statements. Well, that's not exactly an apology, is it? He was forced to say that by his network, and now he's reportedly humiliated, as I say.

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Yeah. I mean, it really is puritanical and, um, I do agree. I think it's over one final thing I'll say we have to wrap, but, um, You have done a very good job of keeping politics out of your family. Your brother's very famous too, Jason Bateman. By the way, I saw Carry On this past weekend. It was excellent. Very good film. He plays a villain. It's number one on Netflix right now.

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But your closing message to people who have not been as successful as you guys about just not making your love relationships about politics and or cultural bullshit.

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I know, exactly. Too often it's done, I think, to people, at least on my side of the aisle and not by people on my side of the aisle, but they can be guilty of it as well. Justine, it's such a pleasure to talk to you again. Thank you so much for being here.

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All right, I got a story for you. Speaking of the Supreme Court, as I mentioned, there was some fear that if this went up to the Supreme Court, we might have enough justices to overturn New York Times v. Sullivan, which, for the record, I do not want. It sets a nice high bar that makes it very, very hard to sue

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for defamation if you're a public figure and even as a public figure, I'm fine with that because I'm also a member of the media and I'm an American first. And in America, what distinguishes us from virtually all of the other first world countries, nevermind third, is you can say what you want here. With very, very few limits, you can say what you want.

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It takes a lot to get a judge issuing an opinion like this against you and having to pay $15 million. It takes 10 times of saying a jury found him civilly liable for rape when we put the screen up on the verdict form up on the screen the other day. Very clearly, it says, is he guilty? Did he commit rape on the civil? And it says no, no. Well, did he commit sexual assault? Yes. You can't.

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As a news anchor, language matters, especially around legal stuff like that. He's had it 10 times. That's why the judge is so mad at him. Anyway, speaking of the Supreme Court, I've got a story for you, okay? A year or so ago, we're always railing on Broadway here. I'm sure you do the same because if you go to Broadway. It used to be a really fun experience.

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You say you take your kids, you see a musical, you know, like Old Man River. You have a good time. Now you go and it's a woke explosion. Doug and I went to see Macbeth with Daniel. What's his name? That James Bond guy, Craig. And it was supposed to be 1400 Scotland. It was a majority minority cast. Okay, I don't think so, but okay. One of the lead players was in a wheelchair, which, okay.

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The king's son was played by a woman who had a blue mohawk. They had gotten rid of all costumes. I guess there's like a budget problem. So the lead character, I think it was the guy in the wheelchair, had a Mickey Mouse shirt on, which is like, I'm having difficulty suspending my disbelief here, people. Okay, so that's one. But then my daughter, then 12, went with some friends to a different play.

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And this play, trust me, I'll round it back to the Supreme Court in a second. This play is showing now and it's called I, Juliet. And it was supposed to be this reimagining of if Juliet had lived. And Juliet. And if Juliet had lived, like what would her life have been? Like girl power. I thought, oh, that's fun. And here's just a clip of me reacting after my daughter got back.

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Plus, there's new reporting from The New York Times that sheds light on President Biden's, quote, weary goodbye and the full extent of his infirmity, which continues to reveal itself day by day. And would you believe the team surrounding him is still alive? trying to claim that behind the scenes, he's amazing. He's like that Olympic break dancer behind the scenes. What was her name?

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This is last February in show in episode 715. Watch this. This was so in your face. I mean, for the listening audience, it shows two guys kissing on stage. Obviously, one of them is this guy who goes by he, she, and they, all of them, Adam, all of them.

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It's just so happy that now we're celebrating queer love, which is not at all what I thought something based on Shakespeare and about Juliet's next chapter was going to be. How about the non-disclosure of any of this in the write-up about the show. Don't we parents get a right to make a call? You could be sending a much younger child than 12 there.

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My kid and I have talked about these issues many times, but many haven't. This could be their first exposure to it. It's not up to Broadway to do that. Okay, so that was the two of us talking about how that play is covered with a bunch of trans people doing kissing and whatever.

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Well, not everyone has a problem with Ann Juliet because would you look at who guest starred in it on Broadway within the past week? SOT 18 for the listening audience. It is Justice Katonji Brown Jackson.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. We have so much to get to today. Later, we've got the lawyer for the doctor who recently settled his massive defamation case against NBC News.

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James may have listed the Brooklyn, New York property as four units instead of five in order to meet the conforming loan requirements and thus receive better interest rates. Ms. James also appears to have used the same falsification in order to receive mortgage assistance through this federal program, which he abbreviates here. So... Like I said, the red cape, Batya. And guess what?

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The bull has come running. I mean, this isn't yet on Trump. This is I have no idea whether Mr. Pulte had any. I don't know how he got started on this. No idea. But he's now referring it to Pam Bondi saying you should prosecute this. This is a very serious matter. And I have a feeling Pam Bondi will feel the same.

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They are getting ripped now, not just from the Megyn Kellys of the world, but from all these lefties, all these Hollywood celebs are going on Instagram and elsewhere and expressing their disdain for what... these women did and how they're celebrating themselves. Wait until you hear how they talked about their 10-minute trip on Jeff Bezos' sexual fantasy rocket. A lot to get to.

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It's unbelievable. You got to be squeaky clean when you are a prosecutor or an attorney general. And I'm sorry, this isn't 2020 hindsight. Everybody knows that. Everybody knows that. Just even while I was practicing law as a civilian, I wasn't in a government role. I knew that. I knew I had to be super careful on every tax return.

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I felt as an officer of the court, I was held to a higher standard and I took it seriously and I was honored to do it. I felt like I was sworn into the bar. I had to take an ethical test and pass that separately to convince these people to let me represent people in court and uphold my word as an officer of a court in dealing with judges and so on.

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All those same things apply to her and then some because she's actually got criminal indictment power. She can put people behind bars or she can devastate their businesses. So being above reproach is especially important for someone like Letitia James. And this I'm not going to comment thing, this breezing past the reporters or she was on a fake phone call this morning, ain't going to cut it.

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She's she's finding out that's what's happening right now. She made up a fake crime to go after Donald Trump with. It was a civil suit, but she made up a fake legal indictment against him where she sued him to within an inch of his net worth and tried to ruin his business and actually is on her way toward doing it, although she's going to get reversed. And you know what?

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You really do need to have clean hands if you're going to play that kind of game. Letitia James, we'll see how it goes for you. OK, speaking of unclean hands, the case of Abrego Garcia, this guy, wait until you hear what we've just found out about this guy. He's the left poster boy, favorite poster boy child for just a Maryland dad who President Trump picked on.

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He just picked him up for no good reason and shipped him off to that El Salvador in prison. Well, one of the things they're trying to do, and this audience, we've talked to many times, but he's not just a Maryland dad. He's not a U.S. citizen. He's from El Salvador. He was picked up and he was brought here illegally by his parents when he was 16.

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In 2019, he was arrested for suspected gang activity. And in the context of investigating this guy, they figured out that he was an illegal and he was ordered removed. a district court judge, an immigration trial judge, and then an appellate court above her both agreed he needed to be removed. He pled for mercy saying, please, you can't send me back to El Salvador because there's gang activity.

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They might want to kill me. And they said, okay, you don't have to go back to El Salvador. And he's been kind of just like hovering here ever since on our benevolence and saying, you know, you're kickoutable, but we won't send you back there. Anyway, that's where things stand with him. And in order to soften the hearts of

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probably of American women in particular, but Americans cross country, they've been parading out his mother. I mean, his wife, he's a good husband. He's a great father. I'm going to read you some of what she's said, um, saying, let's see. We have a shot. Okay. Nevermind. We cut a shot. Watch it.

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Okay. Amazing husband and father. Now this just broke today. Andy Ngo, who's been on this show many times, Andy Ngo first reported this and then it was picked up by Bill Malusian of Fox and now has been verified by Bill Malusian of Fox based on Maryland state records. This great husband, this wonderful father, not once, but more than once,

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has been accused of domestic violence by that woman who was giving that interview right there. And the court records have been pulled. There's one from 2020. The case is now closed. There's another one from 2021. The case is now closed. And she signed this under penalty of perjury. Yeah, in connection with his deportation. From the moment he was detained, my children and I were sad and worried.

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Joining me now is Batya Angar Sargan, free press columnist and author of Second Class, How the Elites Betrayed America's Working Men and Women. Tax day may have passed, but for millions of Americans, the real trouble is just the beginning. If you miss the April 15th deadline or still owe back taxes, the IRS is ramping up enforcement, and every day you wait might make things worse.

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He's always been a loving, reliable partner and father. We struggled without him emotionally and economically. That loving partner accused, yeah, repeatedly of domestic violence against this spouse. And we don't yet have the details, but I guarantee you we're going to get him. And what that does, Batya, is it undermines this woman's credibility entirely.

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At least two that we've found so far, records of alleged domestic violence. How did we find that out? From her, undoubtedly. This is not some sweetheart, like loving kid who the Trump administration is just picking on. This guy was found by two courts to have ties to MS-13 to be in MS-13. And now we see an accused serial domestic abuser.

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Let me show that. So Senator Chris Van Hollen of Maryland, which is, you know, he's just a Maryland dad. That's all just a sweet Maryland dad that Trump's picking on. He decided to go to El Salvador. I can't wait to see how this works out, frankly. And he thinks he's going to storm the prison, I guess, and like do firsthand reporting on it. Oh, good luck with that, sir.

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Take your chances, because I don't think you want to mess around with President Bukele. Here he is posting a video from the airport explaining the trip.

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Yeah, like their wives. That is what bullies do. They pick on the most vulnerable. And, you know, sometimes they have repeated instances of beating the shit out of the person they're supposed to love most. I don't know whether Abrigo Garcia did that in this case, but I'm looking at two Maryland court records in which his wife...

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I don't know if they were married at the time, but the same woman, Jennifer Vasquez, that he's with now, filed for a protective order against him for domestic violence. He's not the only one. I'll give you one more and I'll give you the floor.

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Senator Chris Murphy from my new adopted home state of Connecticut, never now to miss an opportunity to put himself in front of a camera now that he's sleeping with some hack PR person. This is him weighing in.

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Okay, so I just want to say one thing to you in tossing this. That man... is so disrespectful because what he's really assuming and projecting there is that he thinks people are idiots.

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He's taking advantage of people who have to work all day to put food on the table and manage their children and their busy lives who do not have eight to 10 hours a day to research the news and figure out where Chris Murphy is lying to them. And the suggestion in any way, shape or form that an American has been grabbed, arrested, and shipped off to El Salvador is a lie.

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And he's banking on them just not having that intimate a connection with the details of the story like this, Maryland dad, to know he's lying to them as he tries to scare them. In a court of law, an objection would have been sustained, the entire commentary would have been stricken, and he would have been admonished by the judge not to actively mislead the jury.

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Just to keep it straight, that's a separate case. The guy out of Colombia. Keep going.

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Oh, I love you. I feel exactly the same way when you're on. All right. We've got to start with Letitia James because I'm sorry, but this is a huge deal. Letitia James, attorney general of the state of New York, may be on the wrong end of the law herself. This is all over the news right now.

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I mean, I. care about the working class and I want them to have better job prospects, but I also care about the safety of young women like Lake and Riley, like this 37 year old mom, Rachel Morin, who was killed on a jog, mother of five by an illegal who was harboring there, who raped her and beat her to death. And Caroline Leavitt was making this point perfectly the other day at the White House.

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I think it was yesterday about how they're very, very concerned about Abrego Garcia getting his proper due process. They don't say one word, not one word about the Lake and Riley's or the Rachel Moran's of the world. Here she is.

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Where was the Maryland senator's trip on her behalf, showboating on her behalf? Where was Chris Murphy speaking out so that we all understood the dangers of Joe Biden's illegal immigration policy, that actual American women were being killed? uh, as they go for a jog to try to stay fit where I don't remember them making a deal out of those.

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And is that because what bigotry of low expectations, they just expect these guys are, you know, they're, they're animals. They're going to kill. If so, why would you, why would you want an open border? Right? It's like, none of it is congruous other than they see in a story, as you point out, and they see an opportunity to advance themselves.

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She will join me to explain exactly what they did on The Rachel Maddow Show, The Nicole Wallace Show, The Chris Hayes Show, and on MSNBC.com with people like Jacob Soboroff. That wound up costing NBC some undisclosed amount of money with which the plaintiffs say they are, quote, very happy. And the facts of this case are shocking. We'll get to that in just a bit.

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The allegations first reported by the outlet White Collar Fraud, Fox News bringing them on the air last night. On Tuesday, she was hit with a federal criminal referral for instances of alleged mortgage fraud. the Federal Housing Finance Agency director, William Pulte, sent a letter to AG Pam Bondi and her deputy AG, Todd Blanche, accusing Letitia James of mortgage fraud.

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I have a point that I want to raise with you, but before I get to it, I just want to point out if, again, we haven't independently verified these court records, but Andy, no found them. Fox news is reporting them now. Um, at least two, one from 2021 from 2021 in which, uh, Jennifer Vasquez is accusing, um,

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A man who has the same name, Kilmar Abrego Garcia, and it shows his birthday is 1995, which is his birthday. I mean, maybe there are two couples that are that unite Jennifer Vasquez and Kilmar Abrego Garcia with his same birth date. I doubt it. We'll find out if we're wrong. We'll correct it. Um,

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So that would have been a 2020 and a 2021 domestic violence incident bad enough to make her go in and seek a protective order against him, alleging serious domestic violence. When he was found allegedly engaging in some sort of activity that led them to believe he was arrestable and part of MS-13 was 2019. He was in there. He was found to be part of this gang.

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The appellate court in the immigration system agreed, part of the gang, deportable. And then he pleaded for mercy, saying, well, please just don't deport me to El Salvador. They're going to kill me there. Oh, poor me. And of course, we said, OK, fine, you don't have to go. So this would have been within months.

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The first incident would have been within months of us going soft on him, of our courts saying, give him a chance. We don't want him to get hurt. We're not going to send him back there. And then if if this dovetails the way it looks like it does, according to these documents, he was wailing on his wife in 2020 and then again in 2021. And then he gets arrested and sent out by Trump.

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And it's back to, oh, poor guy. Oh, it's just it's infuriating. But I want to get to your bigger point because it's important. about how these judges are trying to take the matter in hand, that the Democrats are trying to stop the Trump agenda of removing the millions that Joe Biden willingly, happily, purposefully allowed in.

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On Monday, a federal judge halted the Trump administration's plan to revoke the legal status and work permits of more than half a million migrants from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua and Venezuela, who we flew here. We flew here under a Biden era, quote, parole program. He flew them in saying, I'll give you legal protection and I will let you work in the United States for two years.

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And no sooner had he begun that program, then they ran into problems. Some data from the program showing evidence of fraud. One review found that at least 3,200 people applied for to sponsor immigrants. And it's really supposed to be like a direct relationship, but they sponsored over 101,000 immigrants.

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So it's clearly these government NGOs, or dare I say, the Catholic Church, saying, I'll be responsible for him. I'll be responsible for him. But 3,000 people cannot monitor 101,000, as alleged here. The Trump administration looking at this program also alleges that it was very poor vetting. We have no idea who he allowed in.

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Almost 3 million of these applications were filed, excuse me, as of last August, including 80,000 from aliens living in countries other than those that I listed. So they're not even supposed to be considered. This is all according to a House Judiciary Committee report.

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Quote, in the course of exercising U.S. federal housing authorities under Federal Housing Enterprises Financial Safety and Soundness Act, U.S. federal housing has identified matters that are appropriate for referral to the USDOJ for the consideration of criminal prosecution. The bottom line is they're alleging that she got a second house in Virginia. She's obviously, she lives in New York.

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And concerns of fraud were so bad that they even led Biden's Department of Homeland Security to suspend temporarily this program for several weeks last year. Now a judge has said, you can't do it. They have to stay. You might be able to suspend their legal status here, Mr. Trump, if you give them an individual case-by-case review, which no one got on the way in.

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But now we want, they just want to tie him up For the next four years, with all of this procedural bullshit, they got flown in summarily and they can be flown out summarily. There's a new sheriff in town. But no, no, says this judge.

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She's the New York attorney general. She has to live in New York. She got a second house in Virginia and then in applying for a mortgage for that house, she had a lawyer to whom she designated power of attorney declare that it was her principal residence. They allege that she did that because you get a better mortgage rate, uh,

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Yeah, exactly. Like there's no tax on tips policy. They came to it too late and then tried to steal it as their own, but they haven't been smart enough to do that in the overall sense. March 2025 numbers at the border. Lowest crossings in US history, thanks to Donald Trump. We have had a 95% decrease from March of 2024.

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And when it comes to those we have apprehended and yeah, those that we've apprehended. And by the way, in March of 2024, that was right around when Joe Biden actually did try to start making an effort at the Southern border because he realized his reelection chances were going to depend on it. Um, in March of 2024, the numbers crossing the border were about 4,500 a day under Joe Biden.

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Now it's less than 330 a day. Uh, for the entire month it was a hundred and about 40,000 for the month under Trump is about 8,300. It's unbelievable. It was stoppable all along just by him. He just didn't have the will. Stand by, more with Baja after this quick break. These days, it feels like nothing surprises us anymore, but not in a good way.

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That's SelectQuote.com slash Megan. SelectQuote. They shop, you save. This just in, breaking news. Judge Boasberg, who thinks that he's the president of the United States, he's the chief district court judge for the district of Washington, D.C., has just found that there's probable cause he says, let me get the language exact.

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He said he would launch proceedings to determine whether to hold the Trump administration, its officials in criminal contempt for defying his order, not to remove Venezuelan migrants from America based on the wartime alien enemies act. This is all based this he's drunk on his own power. This is all based on the fact that

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Trump decided to use the alien enemies act, which by the way, the Supreme court has already implicitly said, okay, that's good. He can, I mean, we're not going to, we're not going to chastise him on that. And now there'll be further proceedings, but he decided to use it. And, uh, The ACLU ran into court before Judge Boasberg because they knew they could get a sympathetic judge.

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They did not go into Texas where the detainees were that they were allegedly representing and trying to fight for. That's where they should have gone. That's what the U.S. Supreme Court ultimately held. They went into D.C. because they knew they could get a judge. They're all like Boasberg. He's a dime a dozen. These leftist activist judges.

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And they got a ruling from him saying, first of all, he said, No, no plane should take off orally. He said no plane should take off. What? Who are you? Fuck off, Judge Boasberg.

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This is Marco Rubio's call and President Trump's call on whether the foreign policy of the United States requires these people to be deported and whether the safety and security of the American people requires that they to be deported. And the commander in chief ruled that they were part of an incursion or an invasion. And he had powers to order them out.

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And that she, knowing that this was not her primary residence, obviously she's in New York and she has to be. lied and that, um, you can't having your power of attorney lie is the same as you lying. There's absolutely no distinction legally. So, um, they're saying she did that.

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Judge Brosberg said, no, I'm higher than you are on the totem pole. No planes can take off. And that was not put in writing. And there is a real question about whether any sort of temporary restraining order has has to be put in writing for it to be valid. wasn't put in writing until several hours later that day.

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And at the time it was put in writing, two planes were already in the air and in international airspace, and they refused to turn them around. The third plane is really not relevant. It did take off much later from the written order, but it didn't have anybody on it pursuant to the Alien Enemies Act. So it's really less relevant.

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But he's getting ready to hold them in criminal contempt for not turning those planes around as he ordered, and I presume not, and for allowing them to take off in the first place. And, um, I don't even know, we talked about this with our lawyer panel the other day about you, but like, I don't know how you hold, I don't know how you hold the president in criminal contempt.

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Like, what's he going to do? He's going to, so are we in a world where like the Democrats want a Brego Garcia free and Trump jailed? I think we all know the answer to that.

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Then they're saying she had a place in Brooklyn that she was going to get a special mortgage for as long as it has had four apartments or bedrooms or less. You could get a lower rate if you had four bedrooms or under.

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All of them. All of them. Mahmoud Khalil. You know what? I made this point when I was arguing with somebody on the show about it, but I was like, they didn't go. They did not go and arrest all of the students at Columbia University who were taking part in those protests or all the students at Harvard who were taking part in those protests or any university. They...

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targeted a few who were the leaders, the instigators, who took an extra role and were here thanks to our benevolence. We didn't try to kick out American citizens where people committed crimes. They got charged with whatever it was, larceny or vandalism. But there's a reason this guy got targeted. He was here on our good graces. He was a guest in our house and he behaved like an animal.

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And I don't care that he didn't actually commit violence on Columbia's campus. He was the spokesperson for the group that held the hostages on campus. The entire campus was held hostage thanks to that group he represented. And by the way, he worked for the Hamas arm of the UN. That's the lie you're referring to on his visa application.

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Mysteriously, he forgot to disclose that when he asked us if he could come into our country. So goodbye. We don't care. We don't miss you. I wish you hadn't come to begin with.

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But yes, the left is now the party that makes statues of George Floyd and won't stand for little DJ Daniel at the State of the Union and won't mourn Rachel Morin or Lakin Riley and will send senators to prisons in El Salvador to go – gin up empathy for an accused wife abuser and MS-13 gang member who's from El Salvador, by the way. It's like we sent him to like the middle of Siberia.

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Anyway, it's just, it's infuriating. And the law fair is their favorite tool. Now, it's coming back to haunt them though, because they were the ones, they were the ones to unleash the dear friend letter during the Obama administration to start using universities to enact their leftist agenda. And of course the universities were only too happy to comply. That was where their heart was anyway.

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I can't figure out whether it was like one of those townhomes where everybody has their own apartment or whether it's a dwelling that has actual bedrooms for a family, but it's irrelevant. The point is you get a better mortgage rate if it's got four bedrooms or less, and this place had five.

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And Barack Obama used the dear friend letter through his ridiculous secretary of education, Arne Duncan, to say, you eliminate due process for young men who are accused on college campuses, or you get the hose again. That's really what he said.

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All your federal funding's going bye-bye if you don't yank their right to counsel, yank their right to cross-examine, yank their right to see the evidence against them. That was his big cause, to try to completely eliminate due process rights for young men on college campuses. It was so effed up. And by the way, there's virtually no rate of appeal.

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You can try to file in a federal court after you've been found guilty as a sexual assaulter on a college campus. It almost never gets overturned. And even when it does, the university won't help you. They don't have to let you back in. We saw this in the case at Amherst where they completely dropped the ball on this one guy. They didn't care when it was all said and done.

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It's very hard to get review when you've been fucked over, sorry, by your college campus in this way. all on the fault of Barack Obama. Why am I bringing that up? Because the Trump administration has a duty.

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It has a duty under the various federal statutes that are out there, whether it's Title IX to protect women or Title VI to protect any minority group that's become the subject of harassment on college campuses to step in and try to stop it. That's the federal law. You're not allowed to do it. You can hate Jews. Go for it. If that's your thing, great. Good luck with that. But you cannot act on it.

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You cannot act in a discriminatory or harassing fashion. That's the law. There's morality and then there's legality. And the government, it's their job to enforce legality. And these campuses crossed it. They crossed it with all those absurd protests where they were chanting Hamas slogans at Jews, harassing them, in some cases physically berating them or hurting them. And Trump is trying...

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to bring justice now, saying this will never happen again. And here's how we're gonna make sure it never happens again. You're gonna issue certain reforms on your campus, or you're gonna lose your federal dollars. And here are what the reforms are. This is exactly what Obama did, his threats on Title IX. And by the way, what he did to many police stations across the country.

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And they're alleging that she wrongfully declared it had four over and over once again to get a more favorable mortgage rate. And then on top of all that, and this is truly bizarre, they're alleging that a long time ago when, I don't know how old she was, but it was 1983, they're alleging that she and her father signed mortgage documents that stated they were husband and wife.

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You will hire more black and brown people or we will take over. In fact, they did take over many police stations and say, we're running your police station now. We think you're too racist based on, you know, sometimes very scurrilous allegations in any event. So now Trump says to Harvard, you will do all these things. And the list of things is actually quite good.

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I have to say, it's like I'll read you a couple. we want to see merit-based hiring reform. The university must adopt and implement merit-based hiring policies, cease all preferences based on race, color, religion, sex, or national origin. They should be able to say they'll do that because it's unlawful not to, but they won't.

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Merit-based admissions reform must adopt and implement merit-based admissions and cease all preferences based on race, color, national origin, or proxies, et cetera. That too should be a no-brainer given the Supreme Court decision on affirmative action, but they don't want to do it. international admissions reform.

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You have to reform the way you recruit and screen international students who are hostile to American values. Why is that a fucking problem? I'm just like, why are you arguing on that? Then there's, um, reform programs with egregious records of antisemitism or other bias.

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You have to commission an external party to audit these programs that have been particularly pernicious and fuel the most antisemitic harassment. They don't want to do it. And you have to discontinue DEI, which of course is at the root of a lot of this Jew hatred anyway. They said, no. Trump said, say goodbye to $2.2 billion that you're getting now through various federal agencies.

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And that may not be all. That may not be all. We actually may look into your tax exempt status. If you want to play hardball, let's play hardball. He said, maybe Harvard should lose its tax exempt status and be taxed as a political entity if it keeps pushing political, ideological, and terrorist inspired sickness. Remember, tax exempt status is totally contingent on acting in the public interest.

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If that happens- then Harvard's endowment income tax rate could soar from 1.4% to the standard 21% corporate tax rate, potentially translating to a $525 million annual reduction in their coffers. Who decides to weigh in on how inappropriate this is to use the federal government to threaten the universities? But Barack Obama bought you.

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in order to secure a home mortgage. And then again, on May 4th, 2000, Ms. James was listed as with her husband as husband and wife. And, uh, alleging that while this was a long time ago, it raises serious concerns about the validity of her representations on mortgage applications. This is an earthquake. This woman is, devoted years of her life in the past five years to bringing down Donald Trump.

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It's already happening because corporate America already knows that a Harvard degree isn't what it used to be. And it means something else. And I'm sorry, but this is what the left has done. If you happen to be a minority and you're at one of these top elite universities and you graduated from it, it's 10 times so for you.

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They're going to look at you and think that Harvard accepted you because of your skin color. And whose fault is that? Harvard's. It's Harvard's fault. And it's unfortunate that you went there in a time of exploding DEI, where they've changed the merit-based system, but them's the brakes.

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So great, you have yourself a Harvard degree, and now you have yourself a healthy amount of skepticism from all employers because they're wondering whether you really deserve to get in or whether you got in because you checked a box. This is the system the left has created. So Barack Obama, just for the record, what he said was-

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Harvard has set an example for other higher ed institutions by rejecting this deal. Rejecting an unlawful and ham-handed attempt to stifle academic freedom. Sure, that's really... His history supports his commitment to pure academic freedom without any governmental ham-handed attempt to interfere. The nerve. By the way, the best tweet, and really, this guy might be my favorite follow on Twitter.

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That's saying a lot because I have a lot of people I love. He's been on the show, Stephen L. Miller. This is not the Stephen Miller of the Trump team. This is a commentator who goes by Red Steez. He says, Obama, you know who needs us to defend them right now? Harvard. Bernie, you know who I need to go speak to about income inequality? Coachella. So right.

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Okay, I have to keep going because there's so much news about you. If I don't get to spend enough time on Blue Origin, I'm going to be very sad and disappointed in myself. I have to mention quickly, quickly that on the legal front, Pam Bondi just fired off the lawsuit against Maine. It's happening. So the Maine governor, she had her little tete-a-tete with Trump like, I'm not doing it.

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He's like, you will do it. And it was see in court. Well, they're going to court. She caved almost instantly on the universities because she couldn't lose the money and she knew it, but she did not cave on K through 12. And so now Pam Bondi just filed a lawsuit saying, you will cave. You will cave because there's a whole thing we call a law.

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It's in short referred to as Title IX, and you're violating it by letting boys play in girls' sports. And by the way, there was just, this is not in our country, but just not for nothing, the UK's Supreme Court, their highest court in the country, just ruled today unanimously that

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That the definition of a woman in equality legislation refers to a biological woman and to biological sex and so-called trans women who are, that's not a thing. That's men posing as women are not women. They can call themselves whatever the hell they want. But legally, they're not women. And that's the problem that this main governor is going to have as this lawsuit goes forward.

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So good for you, Pam Bondi, totally behind you all the way. OK, but we've got to get to Blue Origin because it's over the top. It's over the top what's happened with these women. We made fun of it on Monday because it was just so ridiculous the way some of the media were covering it, the way they were like self-congratulatory. They've gone next level, OK, since then. Okay.

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First of all, can we, can we pull, I want to hear the Lee. I don't know which soundbite it is you guys, but the, the montage of them about them. Let's watch.

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I got one more I got to add to you. Gayle King, upset because there's been a lot of blowback, and I'll play it in a minute, but like from Hollywood leftists, not just people like you and me, but like Hollywood leftists. These are the people who are supposed to love them, who are ripping these women to shreds. It's beautiful.

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For what? For alleged misrepresentations to banks about the value of his properties. The allegation was so that he could secure more favorable loans than he was entitled to. in a different dressing, it's the same general fashion as what she's being accused of herself, Batya.

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And Gayle King is upset and had a few things that she needed to explain to those of us who don't understand what a hero she is. Watch.

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There's so much to go over. First of all, Alan Shepard walked on the moon, Gail. You did not fucking walk on the moon. Okay. You're you're, you didn't do the same thing as Alan Shepard. And by the way, when he did his first space flight, it was the first space flight. That's the reason it was exciting. It wasn't for commercial gain. It wasn't to promote Amazon.

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It wasn't with some woman with her tits hanging out who needed a little extra attention. Okay. So that's just first. Um, Secondly, there's nothing frivolous about what we did. Let's just check in. We don't have to take her word for it. Let's see how it went on board the Blue Origin spacecraft. SAC-22, here they are in space. Got it?

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I can't. I'm so I can't get over. There's so much to talk about. Look at the moon. It's dark. There was nothing frivolous. I am like Alan Shepard and I am inspirational. I'm proud of me. Good for me. That's the messaging coming back.

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Now, she hasn't spoken to it directly, but her spokesperson said she's focused every single day on protecting New Yorkers, especially as this administration weaponizes, that's rich, as this administration weaponizes the federal government against the rule of law and the constitution. She will not be intimidated by bullies, no matter who they are. But this is unbelievable.

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Well, let me show some of that. Okay, yeah. I'm still stuck in the fact that Gayle King actually used the word astronauts in reference to like, we're just like... like an actual astronaut, you are there on a vanity project of Jeff Bezos and his fiance. You've done absolutely nothing to deserve this. You're sitting next to Katy Perry.

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And if you don't want people to think it's frivolous, Gail, then don't have the fucking Kardashians craft side as you take off and Oprah. That might have something to do with our reaction to this as a non-serious event, a PR stunt. Okay, back to the blowback. Olivia Munn, she's an actress. She's got it.

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And I think she speaks for a lot of us when she's trying to espouse why so many on the left and the right had a visceral reaction to this.

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But there's so much news to get to first. There's the latest on the Abrego Garcia case. Democrat senators making absolute fools of themselves now going to bat for the illegal immigrant suspected MS-13 gang member. This is their poster boy on the left now who was sent to El Salvador. He's El Salvadoran, okay?

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Absolutely nothing. I'll give you one more model, Emily Ratajkowski, who did a little Instagram post after the fact.

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And if one word of this is true, she is in a world of trouble right now. Your thoughts.

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She raises a good point. Where's Greta Thunberg? Where's her protest on how many carbon emissions we had to suffer just so that Gayle could be proud of herself? Olivia Wilde reposted an image of Katy Perry kissing the ground. Honestly, truly, she was acting like she got back from Apollo 13. Kissing the ground. And she captioned it, billion dollars bought some good memes, I guess.

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Here was Amy Schumer doing her own version of making fun of these women. Watch.

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Nailed it. She's mocking them very heartily, mocking them. Kesha mocked them. I mean, like it's that's what gets them upset. That's why Gail did that little. We're inspirational and we're astronauts. I am Alan Shepard video.

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I love that. I agree. And I also think there's the element of, it's got a little bit of a stolen valor feel to it where we revere our astronauts, our actual astronauts who actually do put themselves in harm's way in order to forge new frontiers. And we've seen astronauts actual ones die in the name of this service.

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We've seen even civilians like Krista McAuliffe when, you know, people of my age were in middle school and we all watched that flight take off the space shuttle and, and burn in the air. It was horrifying. So there have been civilians to go up to. They wear actual spacesuits. They go through real training, not two days of learning how to buckle your seatbelt, which is literally what they did.

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That's what they're touting as they're training, buckling the seatbelt, getting in and out of the vessel and learning how to press the button so they could speak to mission control. That doesn't make you an astronaut, okay? Sorry, Gail and everybody else on board. And I just feel like How dare you? How dare you utter the name Alan Shepard? How dare you?

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You and he have absolutely nothing in common. Absolutely nothing. And so I like she and they actually seem to have expected a Neil Armstrong type welcome home. And I'm really uplifted by the fact that left and right, because I think you and I have probably zero in common with Amy Schumer and certainly Olivia Wilde, other than our ability to see through this PR stunt farce.

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The meaning they came back with was, I am important and I am your hero. I am. Damn it. You will look up to me. You will call it a mission, not a flight. Congratulations, me. And again, I mean, my guest made this point yesterday. It was a very good one, which is,

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I think it was, who was it who was making this, Walter, or on Monday, about how they completely ignored all these same news stations who want us to celebrate these women, completely ignored Elon Musk's rescue of those two astronauts on board the International Space Station. He rescued them. They'd been stuck up there for the better part of a year. They didn't find that interesting at all.

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But this vapidity celebrated like the second coming. So I love the backlash. I am here for it, and I feel it too. Batya, love talking to you. Thank you so much for being here.

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Oh, you're so sweet. The pleasure is all mine. All right, coming up next, we're going to have the lawyer for the doctor. A doctor and a lawyer walked into a courtroom. The lawyer for the doctor who just sued NBC News for defamation, and they settled it because the judge had said, you have to go to trial. What you said, NBC News, was totally false.

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And they were supposed to start that trial on April 22nd. It was settled. They say they're very happy with the settlement. What the hell happened? The lawyer's here next. We live in a world our biology just was not built for. Artificial light, seed oils, microplastics, chronic stress. It's no wonder our health is under attack.

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These modern stressors disrupt our cells' ability to function the way they should, impacting gut health, immunity, even how we age. Armra cholesterol, that's Armra, Thank you so much for watching. And we have got you a special offer. Get 15% off your first order. Just go to tryarmra.com slash Megan or enter the code Megan at checkout. That's T-R-Y-A-R-M-R-A dot com slash Megan.

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There's a lot of talk about government debt, but after four years of inflation, another real crisis is personal debt. Some people are working harder than ever and still drowning in credit card debt and overdue bills. But there's done with debt. Done with debt has unique escape strategies to help end your debt fast. So you keep more of your hard earned money.

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Done with debt does not try to sell you a loan or bankruptcy. They're tough negotiators go one-on-one with your credit card and loan companies with one goal in mind. to drastically reduce your bills, eliminate interest, and erase penalties. Most clients wind up with more money in their pockets month one, and they don't stop until they break you free from debt permanently.

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Take a few minutes and visit donewithdebt.com. Speak with one of their strategists. It's free. But listen up. Some of their solutions are time-sensitive, so you will need to move quickly. Go to donewithdebt.com. That's donewithdebt.com. I'm Megyn Kelly, host of The Megyn Kelly Show on Sirius XM.

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It's your home for open, honest, and provocative conversations with the most interesting and important political, legal, and cultural figures today. You can catch The Megyn Kelly Show on Triumph, a Sirius XM channel featuring lots of hosts you may know and probably love, great people like Dr. Laura, I'm back, Nancy Grace, Dave Ramsey, and yours truly, Megyn Kelly.

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You can stream The Megyn Kelly Show on SiriusXM at home or anywhere you are. No car required. I do it all the time. I love the SiriusXM app. It has ad-free music coverage of every major sport, comedy, talk, podcast, and more. Subscribe now. Get your first three months for free.

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Last week, we told you about a confidential defamation settlement between NBC Universal and a Georgia doctor. This after MSNBC ran multiple reports in September 2020 with allegations that this doctor performed mass hysterectomies at an ICE detention facility. Well, we dug into what really happened.

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It started with an advocacy group called Project South, and they released an open letter to the Department of Homeland Security criticizing conditions at the Irwin County Detention Center in Georgia, which at the time was run by ICE and had detained immigrants staying there.

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The letter was primarily about the lack of COVID precautions there, but it also included shocking allegations from a nurse named Dawn Wooten, claiming that a doctor was performing hysterectomies on nearly every patient that he saw, calling him, quote, a uterus collector.

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Well, MSNBC took up the story the very next day with Nicole Wallace, Chris Hayes and Rachel Maddow all covering the report on their shows. Here's Maddow quoting the shocking claims.

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Well, there's just one problem. It's not true. Dr. Mahendra Amin only performed two medically necessary hysterectomies on detainees at that ICE facility, and he was not happy with this report. The guy spent his whole life helping underprivileged communities, volunteering his time, helping people who cannot pay, and he got viciously smeared.

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originally by this nurse who worked at the facility, and then NBC News and MSNBC News ran with it. And the good doctor filed a $30 million defamation lawsuit against NBC Universal in September, or back in September, NBC settled. They settled after discovery in this case showed that even internally at the news organization, they had significant doubts about

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about whether this was true even as they presented the allegations to their audience without reflecting those serious doubts. We reached out to NBCUniversal for comment. We have not heard back. Here now to explain more is Stacey Evans, Dr. Amin's attorney. Stacey, thank you so much for being here.

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Yes, you're I'm told a Democratic lawmaker in the state of Georgia and that many people would not expect you to be suing MSNBC, which is beloved by a lot of Democrats. So did you have any hesitancy in taking this case?

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Good for you. Not everybody sees the world like that. So I applaud you and your objectivity. Just so the audience can understand how this got started, I mentioned this nurse who works there named Dawn Wooten. Here she is talking to NBC's Jacob Soboroff and making these allegations against Dr. Amin. This is from September 15th, 2020.

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Later, the Department of Homeland Security Inspector General would conduct an investigation. This is after the allegations aired. It was in January of 2022. And they released a report finding, based on its medical records review, the National Commission on Correctional Health Care Resources team determined women's health care provided by Dr. Amin to be appropriate.

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So they're basically saying that, well, he's not mentioned by name, nothing untoward happened there, nothing that wasn't medically necessary. So what exactly did NBC and MSNBC do wrong?

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She... She's going to be hoisted on her own petard because she's spent the past three years, four years arguing about how no one is above the law. The powerful must be treated the same as the poor. That just because you're rich and famous doesn't give you the right to manipulate the banking system to get more favorable loans. Oh, my God.

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Let me stop you there just to set the scene. And I appreciate you mentioning the election because it's very interesting. I mean, we've seen this so many times where that mistakes mistakes or intentional misstatements get made in service of a political narrative that somebody finds important and i think the obviously and msnbc was guilty of that here it was too good was too good not to report

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It would hurt Trump. It would hurt him on one of his key issues, you know, immigration. And look what they're doing. He's basically got a Joseph Mengele in there taking out uteruses for fun. This is sick. These people are sick. So I see it. I see exactly what you're saying here. But that's one of the things I wanted to get into because it wasn't just MSNBC.

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The Guardian, some other publications, mostly left wing, ran with these same allegations by this nurse, but you didn't sue them. And there is a reason that you zeroed in on NBC and MSNBC. And I think it's, well, it's a couple fold. You explain.

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Well, let's, so I definitely want to do that. I'm running out of time on my Sirius XM live show, and we're going to continue this over on pod and YouTube. So I'll start something a little, I'll keep us on something less deep because that's a deep one. But yeah, so he had multiple news organizations, but MSNBC and NBC was the worst and the ones with the biggest microphone reporting this about them.

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Can I ask you before, in the time we have, do we know why this nurse made these allegations? Because I saw some reference to she had an ax to grind.

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So let's talk now about what you discovered about MSNBC and NBC in particular, because this was really... You know, I don't know whether you would have won the defamation claim against them, even though we now know what they reported was untrue. But they did try to cross some T's and dot some I's. So when I was reading up on the case, I was like, how did they win this?

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All of that is going to be shoved right down her throat and into her craw. In the context of this investigation and this case. Now, she'll tell us what her defense is. I'm I'm all ears. Cannot wait to hear how she's had alleged repeated slip ups on her mortgages like one. You could understand. I don't know, like maybe the dwelling that she said is four bedrooms instead of five.

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And then I got to the page that explains how you won it. But just to set it up, they did try to do some things. They reached out to the doctor for comment, and they included, I think, his denial in the ultimate report that it wasn't true. But that, as it turns out, wasn't sufficient because why?

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We've talked about them with my audience there. It's at NBC. It's pretty rigorous where you go through this team of lawyers and sort of professional journalists who make sure or try that you don't defame people in your reporting. And especially when you have a report like this, that's incendiary. I mean, you're setting this guy on fire with these allegations.

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Maybe they did something with the fifth bedroom. She's counting as a study, although that's not the way it works. In a mortgage law, they want to know what qualifies as a bedroom. They don't care how you're using it. I'm just trying to look for ways to give her the benefit of the doubt. I'm not sure how you say your father is your husband. That's a tough one.

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It was an NBC news story. Wow. And those warnings from standards and practices were issued prior to them posting that article and then doing all these segments on MSNBC.

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Incredibly two faced. Here he is having that same nurse on his show again after all these warnings from standards and others behind the scenes. Sat 37.

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Now, in that interview, did Chris Hayes express strong skepticism? Like, this is hearsay. You can't produce the women. How do you know it's six? Like, was there anything to mitigate the damage in those allegations?

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It's not exactly what she's being prosecuted for. But if true, it absolutely shows a pattern of dishonesty. And by the way, pattern evidence can get in. in criminal trials. They've been using it against Harvey Weinstein and others up and down Letitia James' New York State criminal system. So this woman's in a lot of trouble today. I'm telling you, this is serious.

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There was the removal order saying don't remove him there because he might face gang violence. That gang has since evaporated. They've been extinguished. So the danger's gone. What we did was send him back to his home country. It's not like a gift. I realize he's sitting in a prison. That's going to be El Salvador's problem.

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Did she explain in the deposition why the change of heart in eight minutes?

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Can you tell the story, Stacey, of what happened with his son who was off to the Cleveland Clinic as a doctor in his own right?

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Having read the complaint, Jonathan Turley was on Fox last night and he said exactly this. It took me less than a minute to find cases prosecuted under this statute. for false claims of principal residences and the other allegations. So this is not some unusual statute that they bring up from time to time for enemies.

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Um, it, it just, it's heartbreaking. Especially in light of what you just said, which is they had doubts, they reversed them. It seems clear they did that because they thought it was a story that was going to work for team blue and for their own ratings, not withstanding their knowledge that there were serious holes in the story. And then we're so callous and disgusting at like, I don't know. I,

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I ruin a lot of people's lives. I'm not sure. That's really kind of how it sounds. I've ruined a lot of people since Dr. Rameen. Can't keep up with them all. Look, I have empathy for news organizations because we're all in a position of trying to report on day's news. And sometimes you get duped. Sometimes you have dishonest brokers.

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The thing that makes this story different and that really makes a villain out of the actors you've mentioned is that they knew or had reason to know this one was false. It would have been a totally different story if they had her word. They couldn't get in touch with Dr. Amin. They didn't get a denial. And they reported it straight as, look, she's filed this whistleblower complaint.

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This is what she's alleged. We're going to continue to try to reach out to him and get comment, whatever. But they didn't. They actually did go beyond that. And when they got there, they learned that the story had tons of holes in it. And then even then you could potentially avoid liability if you went on the air and said, here are the allegations and here are all the holes in it, right?

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Like that too could potentially spare you. But just going with these are the allegations. Oh, and by the way, he gave us a denial. And without reporting any of the serious problems you've discovered behind the scenes, that's what got you to defamation because for some reason they decided to treat him as a public figure, even though it wasn't, but whatever, it's not important.

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So you had a higher burden bringing a defamation claim, um, against MSNBC and NBC. And you had to prove actual malice on their part that they knew what they were saying was false or behaved in reckless disregard of its truth or falsity. And I think that latter point is, that's where all these messages came in.

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You, you submitted in the case, um, text messages between Julia Ainsley, who you mentioned in Jacob's Jacob Soboroff, she texts to him saying, um, but only two hysterectomies or do you think they only referred those? And he also did others. She's trying to say maybe they referred others and we don't have a record of them. And it's so rough answers.

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I think it's possible or likely lots of lawyers saying it. Um, Then you've got this one source, an immigration lawyer named Sarah Owings, who told Soboroff that she and her colleagues were not finding evidence of a large number of hysterectomies.

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This is actually quite frequently enforced and says this woman previously prosecuted Trump for everything short of ripping a label off a mattress. She emphasized he was ultimately responsible for any filings made in his name or that of his company, irrespective of whether he had seen them or signed them personally. He

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The Rachel Maddow meeting that you just outlined, that guy you mentioned from Standards and Practices, Chris Scholl, you say Standards weighed in on this prior to the airing of the reports, but this is from a follow-up segment that Chris Hayes was going to do two days after the original report, where Standards, this guy Chris Scholl, is jumping up and down saying, You don't have it.

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Stop doing this. The quotes are Scholl saying, we don't know if the doctor did anything wrong here. In fact, the guy has a pretty clean record. Scholl doubted the credibility of that nurse Wooten in the same call. And the whistleblower has no direct knowledge of this stuff. She kind of has a beef, right? She's got a whole separate agenda here.

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Scholl admitted in the deposition the network did not know the truth. And as to televising the accusations, he said, we would have to approach this with a great deal of transparency with viewers and say, look, we don't know the truth. That's my understanding too, Stacey, that like.

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When you've got somebody making whistleblower allegations like that and you've got a strong denial on the other side, you investigate it and you find a bunch of reasons to doubt the allegations. It's a judgment call as to whether you tank the story entirely. But in some instances, you might put it on the air anyway.

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Like if it's big enough and it's like serious enough, you might put it on the air anyway. But you would have to outline why. all the doubts that had been found in your reporting about it so that the viewers knew to keep a very healthy dose of skepticism on the allegations. I mean, you practice in this area. Am I right?

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he authorized them just as she would have here and said the great, he said the greatest danger for Letitia James may be if the Letitia James standard is applied to her, where she emphasized such technicalities matter and that the powerful should not be given a free pass. This is, this is just unbelievable. I mean,

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Right, because you would have expected this judge could have thrown your case out at summary judgment, and that's really what I think led to the settlement, right? The judge did not throw out the case at summary judgment. In fact, you got summary judgment on the critical facts of your case, which is it is not true that he is a uterus collector, right?

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Well, NBC saw it coming because once they lost at summary judgment and you were barreling toward trial, I think they understood exactly how this was going to go over in front of a jury. And you settled. And I've heard you say you're very happy with the settlement. Can you add any color to that?

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Fannie Willis goes down because she couldn't keep her zipper up long enough to actually see the prosecution of Donald Trump through, right? And then I believe she lied under oath very clearly to me, as well as her paramour, Nathan Wade. So that case crumbled. It crumbled even though it was a state case. He couldn't be pardoned. There were all sorts of reasons why that one was problematic.

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I wondered about that because I saw she spoke out. to the guardian or at least the guardian offered an article about her in 2022. And, uh, she, she's blaming a very low dejected mental state on, on her time as a whistleblower saying, uh, post whistleblowing. I am on antidepressants. At one time I was suicidal, couldn't pay the bills, still can't pay the bills.

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My whole nursing career just plummeted. I'm back on food stamps. I'm back on welfare. I'm back on Medicaid. I'm back trying to figure out how I'm going to make ends meet, et cetera. So what is she defending the lawsuit? Does she have counsel?

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Wow. You don't get that every day in practicing defamation law. Thank you so much for coming on and telling his story and all the best to both you and the good doctor.

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Wow. What a story. Unbelievable. All right. Speaking of good doctors, we're going down to interview one exclusively. Dr. Marty McCary, the new head of the FDA, praise Jesus, will be on this show tomorrow. You guys have seen him on this show as Johns Hopkins doctor who pushed back against some of the COVID nonsense. He came on to talk about his book, which is very Maha friendly.

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And now I'm dying to talk to him about what he has found in the first couple of weeks kicking the tires over at the FDA. This will be great. He's an honest broker and there aren't a lot of them in these medical policy setting positions, at least not pre-Trump. So what did he find? I can't wait. It's tomorrow. See you then. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show.

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But to your point, his enemies are just the worst people. Then Jack Smith loses the Florida case before Trump even won because he was the wrong prosecutor. They held that the appointment of this particular prosecutor was wrong. The J6 case was all but gutted by the Supreme Court, saying he's got presidential immunity for most of this. The only one who got Trump was Alvin Bragg,

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And even that case was really undermined by that presidential immunity finding and ultimately kind of crumbled at the very end, even though Alvin Bragg was determined to see it through so he could call Trump a convicted felon. And I think it'll be reversed on appeal. So what do you have now? You do have the E. Jean Carroll verdict, which we all know is bullshit.

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Um, and then there's this case by Letitia James, which was the one I was told by Trump insiders was the one that bothered him the most all along. It's his company, his near and dear company. And what's being alleged in this lawsuit is that that case was pursued by an alleged fraudster herself.

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Right now, it is a showdown, legal showdown between the Trump administration and this judge. But really, as a practical matter, we sent an El Salvadorian back to his country. And the ladies of the Blue Origins mission, the space mission, literally, they're talking about it like it was Apollo 11. They think they're Neil Armstrong. It's amazing.

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She was like out there with the red drape, you know, tempting the bull. Who could forget the many times we heard this from her in SOT3?

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That's a Fox News, but it's unbelievable, right? By the way, just pro tip, Letitia James, your father is not your husband unless you've done something very wrong, and so is he. That's just as a starter. And also when you apply for mortgages, you have to be truthful. I did look it up. It's a five-family dwelling, so there's no ambiguity. It's a five-family dwelling that according to...

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this guy, this, uh, the guy I just referenced, hold on. I'll make sure I get his title. Correct. Director William Pulte of the federal housing finance agency.

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Um, he says that she, she declared that it was four units, uh, because a building that exceeds four units, that's greater than four, that's five like hers must be treated as a multifamily property and typically has larger down payment requirements and higher interest rate terms. And, And he said it appears that, quote, Ms.

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April 15th is just around the corner. Act now before the IRS acts first. 24-year-old illegal immigrant Victor Martinez Hernandez accused of raping and murdering Maryland mother of five Rachel Morin. convicted on all four charges.

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After less than an hour of deliberation, the jury finding Mr. Martinez Hernandez guilty of first-degree murder, first-degree rape, first-degree sexual offense, and kidnapping. Ms. Morin, 37, reported missing by her boyfriend on August 5, 2023, after she didn't return home from a morning jog. Her body discovered the next day in a drainage ditch in near the Ma and Pa Trail, northeast of Baltimore.

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The autopsy revealing Ms. Morin suffered 15 to 20 blows to the head, dying from strangulation and blunt force trauma. Mother of the victim, Patty Morin, testifying in front of Congress last summer.

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The killer, a Salvadoran national, fled his home country after allegedly murdering a woman there. After two attempts to cross the southwestern border, Mr. Martinez Hernandez successfully entering the country illegally in February 2023. Maryland authorities matching DNA evidence from Ms. Morin's crime scene with DNA recovered from an unsolved home invasion and assault in Los Angeles.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Wednesday, April 16th, 2025, and this is your AM Update.

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Marilyn, mother of five, Rachel Morin's suspected killer, convicted on all charges. Harvard refuses to comply with the Trump administration's task force combating campus anti-Semitism.

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That match helping investigators use cell phone data to track Martinez-Hernandez to Tulsa, Oklahoma, where he was arrested 10 months after the murder. Mr. Martinez-Hernandez is facing a sentence of life without parole in a Maryland prison. Illegal immigrants convicted of serious crimes like those inflicted on Ms. Morin are typically only subject to deportation after they complete their sentence.

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However, the Trump administration is exploring legal options allowing deportation or the transfer of inmates to El Salvador. President Trump discussing the idea on Monday with El Salvador President Nayib Bukele in the Oval.

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Harvard University President Alan Garber announcing the school will not comply with federal directives aimed at curbing illegal anti-Semitic activity on campus. The Trump administration immediately moving to freeze $2.2 billion in grants and contracts from the Department of Education, HHS, and the General Services Administration.

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these departments working in coordination under the DOJ as part of the Joint Task Force on Antisemitism. An additional $7 billion in federal funding is currently under review.

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On Tuesday morning, President Trump posting on Truth Social, "...perhaps Harvard should lose its tax-exempt status and be taxed as a political entity if it keeps pushing political, ideological, and terrorist-inspired-slash-supporting sickness." Remember, tax-exempt status is totally contingent on acting in the public interest.

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In early April, the Trump administration issuing a formal list of demands to Harvard in a letter reading, quote, Harvard University has fundamentally failed to protect American students and faculty from anti-Semitic violence and harassment, in addition to other alleged violations of Title VI and Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. The requested areas of action, including policy,

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oversight and accountability for biased programs that fuel anti-Semitism, disciplinary reform and consistent accountability, governance and leadership reforms, and cooperation with law enforcement, among others. The complaints originating from a series of events on the Harvard campus following the events of October 7, 2023, when the Hamas terror organization unleashed a wave of violence against

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against Israel. 34 Harvard student groups immediately co-signed a letter laying the blame for the horrific attack squarely on Israel. A group of Jewish Harvard students in January 2024 sued the university for failing to adequately protect them against illegal demonstrations of anti-Semitism.

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And Joe Biden makes his first public speech since leaving the White House. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Why? Well, not all tax resolution companies are the same. Tax Network USA has a preferred direct line to the IRS so they know exactly which agents to deal with and which ones to avoid.

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In the suit, one student alleged encountering demonstrations, quote, celebrating the terrorist attack and referring to it as an act of justified resistance by brave freedom fighters. Another student reporting physical assault from pro-Hamas activists, alleging the school only took disciplinary action when forced by Congress.

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Following widespread condemnation for the lack of response from the administration, Then-Harvard president Claudine Gay forced to resign from the post in January 2024. She was also facing a plagiarism scandal.

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In January 2025, Harvard settled the lawsuit with the Jewish students, agreeing to adopt an official definition of anti-Semitism, to host an annual symposium on anti-Semitism, and to partner with an Israeli university. President Garber responding to the Trump administration demands, writing in a letter, quote, Such as they are.

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President Obama, a Harvard grad, praising the decision on X, writing, quote, Harvard has set an example for other higher ed institutions, rejecting an unlawful and ham-handed attempt to stifle academic freedom while taking concrete steps to make sure all students at Harvard can benefit from an environment of intellectual inquiry, rigorous debate and mutual respect.

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Let's hope other institutions follow suit. Harvard is the first university to directly challenge the Trump administration's crackdown on campus anti-Semitism by refusing to comply with the new conditions tied to federal funding.

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The federal task force saying Harvard's response is indicative of a, quote, troubling entitlement mindset that is endemic in our nation's most prestigious universities and colleges, that federal investment does not come with a responsibility to uphold civil rights laws. Coming up, defunding NPR. Is it happening? And President Biden makes his first public remarks since leaving the White House.

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The White House preparing a formal request to Congress to rescind $1.1 billion in already approved funding for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, which supports NPR and PBS, part of a larger $9.3 billion revision package targeting various government programs. Both NPR and PBS receiving a mix of direct and indirect funding from the federal government.

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NPR reporting 8% of their 2022 budget coming from the Corporation for Public Broadcasting and another 6% from federal, state, and local governments. PBS reporting 14% of their operating budget coming from the feds. Republican lawmakers long accusing both outlets of using public funds to push a left-wing agenda.

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CEOs for the outlets appearing in March on Capitol Hill to answer for their political bias. Here's an exchange with NPR CEO Catherine Marr.

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Lawmakers also pressing Maher on the political makeup of NPR's newsroom.

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In 2017, PBS were producing a documentary called Real Boy about a teen girl's gender transition.

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Your tax dollars at work. A request to rescind federally allotted funds requires only a simple majority in both chambers to pass, with lawmakers given 45 days to act. If approved, it will mark the first permanent funding cuts of the second Trump administration. President Biden on Tuesday making his first public remarks since leaving the White House.

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Mr. Biden addressing an advocacy group for the disabled in Chicago, highlighting Democrat talking points on Social Security.

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The Democrat Senatorial Campaign Committee timing the launch of its first 2026 ad campaign with Mr. Biden's event.

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The DSCC targeting GOP Senators Tom Tillis of North Carolina and Susan Collins of Maine with digital ads featuring a dial tone and captioned, quote, Trump and Elon Musk are threatening sweeping cuts to the Social Security Administration, making it harder for seniors to get their benefits. Republicans could stop this, but they won't.

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Democrats consistently portraying Doge efforts to rid the government of waste, fraud and abuse as a plot to eliminate Social Security.

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Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt questioned about Mr. Biden's remarks on Tuesday afternoon.

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President Trump differentiating between making cuts and cutting fraud.

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Public polling consistently showing support for eliminating government waste and fraud. And that'll do it for your AM update. I'm Megyn Kelly. Join me back here for The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Triumph Channel 111 at noon east, on youtube.com slash Megyn Kelly, and on all podcast platforms.

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Yeah, because you won't listen because you refuse to just listen to the nominee who is trying to answer them. Just not the way you like. He actually did try to give you an answer about those drunkenness reports talking about how it was an NBC hit job against him. It was a denial, madam. You just didn't want to hear it.

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And her thing about the Greenland and Panama, what she's really saying there is I object to Donald Trump. I hate Trump. I hate what he's saying. Will you do what I want instead of what Trump wants? And Pete Hexeth is not taking that bait. Oh, I know it's upsetting, isn't it, madam? You lost. You didn't get your way. And she's working things out on the bench from the seat up there.

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She was just look, she wasn't effective. She was kind of whiny and nobody paid any attention to her. She scored no points whatsoever. So, OK, I guess, you know, maybe she did a little high five with her staff. I did see Elizabeth Warren when I was in the room yesterday, go over to Tim Kaine and they were saying good job to one another. The little tag team. Oh, we're the smartest. We got him. Yeah.

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But let's get back to the most annoying. My list of most annoying senators at the Pete Hegseth confirmation hearings yesterday. Again, most smarmy, most despicable, that's Tim Kaine. But I'm going to put Maisie Hirono in the third spot for most annoying. Since she was so pathetic, it was hard to be really annoyed as opposed to just kind of mocking her. In number two, Tammy Duckworth.

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Senator from Illinois who was equally disrespectful of Pete Hegseth and equally uninterested in hearing his answers and tried, she tried to like do a couple of gotchas against Pete, which we've captured a bit in this soundbite, which I'm going to talk to you about on the back end. Watch here.

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But you don't remember to mention it? Okay, so it's like a little fun memory test by Tammy Duckworth. Trying to do little, like, let's play, you know, my little guessing game. I'm your high school history professor, and we're going to see how well you can do on my little pop quiz for you. Then she got into... ASEAN. Remember this? Do we have this, Deb? We had a cut yesterday, I think.

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Can we bring it over? Where she tried to do a little, she did like a gotcha on him about this group of South Asian countries and whether it was really a test, I guess, to understand whether he knew this group you know, this abbreviation, right? This ASEAN. I remember when I heard it, I'm like, it's pronounced Asian because I had no idea what she was talking about either. ASEAN.

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And by the way, apparently that's not how you pronounce even the group that she was talking about. It is actually pronounced closer to Asian. It's this group of countries in Southeast Asia that very like together they are individually. They don't amount to much economically or otherwise, but together they're like about the size of the UK and they have more bargaining power.

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So sometimes they try to refer to themselves as a group, but it's more of an economic deal than a political or than a military deal. So, you know, amazingly, Pete hadn't studied up on his acronyms for every single region in the United States and I guess flunked her little test. And she and leftists on Twitter lost their minds over this.

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Just trying to make them look dumb. No, like literally nobody knew about this group, that that's what they go by. You want to go through the names, the individual names? Sure. I'm sure he'd be happy to talk to you about the individual names and what the strategic interests of the United States are with respect to each one or the together as a group, but because he didn't know a little bit.

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acronym. She tried to make him look stupid like he is a dumb ass and she failed. I mean, it's one thing if everybody in the room is like, oh my God, he doesn't know what NATO is. Holy shit. Right? I mean, that's one thing, but this where everybody's like, what's that? What did she say? I think it's pronounced ocean or Asian. You tried and you failed. So she is my number two

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most annoying and irritating senator from yesterday. And then we get to number one, that's the sleeper candidate I was telling you about, this Slotkin. Okay, now Slotkin is, if memory serves... I did look it up and now I can't remember, but I think that she may have gone to Columbia. She's got one of these, you know, highfalutin backgrounds, uh, in education. And then she joined the CIA Columbia.

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Yeah. Columbia. There you go. That explains a lot. and then she joined the CIA, and now she's a politician out of Michigan. So she starts off by trying to bond with Pete. I'm of the CIA. I guess she was fluent in Farsi and one other relevant language. I can't remember what it was. And that's why she got hired by the CIA. So in any event, It's not the same.

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Back at home now here in Connecticut after attending the Pete Hegseth hearing yesterday where the nominee for defense secretary knocked it out of the park. Last night after we said goodbye to you guys after a late taping following the hearing, the most important thing in this entire process happened.

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I respect her service, but it's really not the same as being on the front lines, being shot at, but fine. Okay. So she's kind of tries to put them, them on par with each other. Like we're both military people. So I completely get it. I get it. And I, I trust me. I believe you. I believe you that you care. I believe you that you care about the troops. Like genuinely I'm with you.

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And like, at first I was a little fooled by it. And then as you watched her over the course of the seven minutes, you really just kind of wanted to punch her in the face. Don't punch her in the face. That's just an urge. She brought up rage inside of one.

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That's the point I'm trying to make here because she was just so nasty and passive aggressive and kept slipping in little deceptive pieces of information. We'll play you the soundbite here. Listen to the part where in particular, she tries to pretend that Trump said he was going to unleash the military on his quote, enemies within. You know we've covered that a lot on this show.

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That's not what he said. He was specifically asked by Maria Bartiromo whether if there were protests around the election that got violent, what would he do? And in response to that, he said, you might have to use the military and refer to some people as being enemies from within. But the left has been...

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conflating these two terms ever since, trying to say Trump's going to unleash the US military on American citizens who do not vote for him. So she slides that in there. She tries to belittle Pete as, well, you'll listen. Watch.

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Senator Joni Ernst, Republican of Iowa, who I told you on the show had been very much on the fence about Pete, came out and formally announced her support for him. It's done. He's going to get confirmed. It's over. He's in. You can start calling him Mr. Secretary. That's that's my view. Unless something catastrophic happens between now and the time the full Senate takes its vote.

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What are you scared of? Oh, because you're a big, bad CIA agent, and you're so tough. You're tougher than Pete, sure, who served his country not just at Gitmo, but in Iraq and Afghanistan. You're a scaredy cat. What are you so afraid of? What a child. What an absolute brat. You know what? She was assistant secretary, like an undersecretary for defense under, was it Obama or Biden?

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And so she's bitter. She's jealous. She's never going to get this role. Sorry, sister. Somebody who's your age, who actually took even greater risks than you did, is going to be recognized now and is going to be running the agency that you were just a lower part of. I know you're going to have to suck it up. You can't blame it on sexism under Obama. You can't blame it on racism.

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It's just you weren't good enough. And he is. So go ahead and vote no. He's still getting in there. And you can do your little histrionics when he comes in for his updates as the secretary of defense. But he's getting through.

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Because somebody who's not hysterical, someone who does care about women's issues, someone who's fought her entire career to protect women in the military, Joni Ernst is going to vote for him. So you can suck it. Madam Slotkin and enjoy what will almost undoubtedly be a short term out of Michigan because that district did. She's right. She said at the beginning, go for both Trump and for her.

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But once they get a load of these antics, I just can't imagine Michiganders are going to stick in this woman's camp for another vote. We'll see. Could be proven wrong. Michigan's becoming more blue. We'll find out. Okay, so those are my top contenders.

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But overall, the women at the hearing embarrassed themselves on the Dem side yesterday, which has led to all sorts of memes showing Pete's face in the middle on X and all these nagging, you know, hens around him like, like all guys are like, my God, me when my wife, when I won't let her have the remote control or when she, all these things.

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We were looking at McConnell. We were looking at Collins. We were looking at Murkowski. McConnell's, of course, an enemy of Trump and Murkowski and Collins are left wing Republicans. And then we were looking at Ernst. Well, the Republicans can afford to lose three. Not four, three. If it's three, it'll be 50-50 vote in the Senate, assuming he gets no damn votes.

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So here we put together our own little montage of the best hysterics from yesterday.

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Okay. The richest part of that is Elizabeth Warren, who is basically accusing Pete of lying in his comments about women when he's trying to say what I was saying all these times. He said, I've never complained about women in the military. My complaint was about women in combat in certain roles where we've lowered standards.

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And they opened up the cross-examination with him, Elizabeth Warren did, by referencing comments Pete made in 2013. By the way, I think it was on my show, about women in combat and talking about how we can't lower the standards in order to facilitate it.

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And Pete responded by saying, I'm glad you brought up my comments from 2013, pointing out that for 12 years, I've been contextualizing that, usually, by pointing out that I'm talking about standards. And she wouldn't have it.

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And what she was basically saying there, which she's like, I've heard of deathbed conversions, but I've never heard of a nomination conversion, is that you're a liar, Pete Hegseth. You're lying. You're just saying whatever you need to say to get a position that you want. And I will give it to her. Chief Lies-A-Lot is an expert in this particular subject matter.

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Remember Chief Lies-A-Lot, who tried to get ahead at Harvard and elsewhere by saying she was Indian when she's not? And then when caught, she defaulted to, well, my ma-ma and my pa-pa told me that my high cheekbones meant I'm an Indian. Okay, for the record, maybe you can see them if you're watching this on YouTube. I actually kind of have high cheekbones. I do. Yeah, it's great.

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I've never had anything injected in them. This is all God-given. And I don't think I'm Native American. I've never had the test. She flies a lot, but if somebody told me I were Native American because I have high cheekbones, I think I'd check it out before I started telling people at universities that I was so I could get tenure or hired or any sort of advancement.

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And then I'd probably be a little reluctant to start lecturing other people about honesty. Can you believe the ma-ma and the pa-pa? Okay. She's basically, she's a Cherokee. She's full Cherokee, but no. Okay. Let's move on to the media. You've got these absolutely smug, again, like Slotkin, like

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And then the vice president, as president of the Senate, would cast the deciding vote. That would be J.D. Vance, and he'd be confirmed. We're not even hearing any rumblings about McConnell and the other two now. They haven't officially said that they'll be voting for him. But Ernst was the pivotal character.

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snide, overeducated, elite libs who are just sliding in the dagger on Pete in a way that, you know, I'm just an elite know-everything. And so I can tell you he's an idiot. You know, I totally respect your service. I believe you care. But what are you so afraid of? That was Slockin. But now here's a woman named Catherine Rampell. And we looked up Slockin. She went to Columbia and Cornell.

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But now here comes this woman, and I'm going to let you know who she is. Her name is Catherine Rampell. She's on one of those insufferable CNN panels with the terrible Abby Phillip, who again is like, Mild-mannered, but has never seen a Republican who's done the right thing. I just want to take control to say that Republicans are bad. They're even worse than you thought. That's Abby Phillip.

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So she's running the panel. Catherine Rampell comes on. And you would think that Catherine Rampell would know a thing or two about Pete and his background because I looked her up too. And guess what she has for her educational background? Well, she has a bachelor's from Princeton. Princeton. Hmm. How do we know that school in connection with this story? Oh yeah. Pete went there.

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And unlike Catherine Rampell, both of whose parents went to Princeton, which newsflash makes it a lot easier to get into Princeton. That wasn't the case for Pete. So she goes out on to, and by the way, her major was anthropology. Okay, I'm sure she learned a lot. That would qualify her to be opining on the sect of defense or not. But in any event, CNN thought she'd be an adequate commentator. Why?

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Because of her long history in military? No, she has absolutely nothing to do with the military, the Pentagon, et cetera. In fact, before she was at the Washington Post, she was at the New York Times as a theater critic. But here she is telling us why Pete was chosen for this job.

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There isn't a person, including you, Susan Collins, you, Lisa Murkowski, or you, Leader McConnell, who cares more about women in the military than Joni Ernst. There is not one. Not you, Kirsten Gillibrand. None of you. So if she's on board, there is no excuse for, in particular, these Republicans, who I just listed, not to be on board. And I think they'll realize that.

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In the longer clip, then Abby Phillip comes in and says, you shouldn't denigrate the service of the generals who have been at the top of the Defense Department before by saying that, Scott Jennings. Scott Jennings is like, how am I denigrating them by saying he is closer to the enlisted men than anybody who's ever held this position? But that's Abby Phillip.

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There cannot be a discussion that doesn't wind in her fake fact checking with hard left spin. Signed, Abby Phillip. Um, back to this woman, Catherine Rampell. All right. So she, the theater critic would like us to know that the only reason, the reason the main qualification, those were her words for Pete to have been nominated is because he's a TV host.

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So Scott Jennings says, why do you denigrate his service? Then comes Abby Phillip. She didn't do that. Okay, how is it not denigrating his tours in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Gitmo, the vast majority of his adult life, by saying his main qualification for this job was his stint on Fox and Friends? Fuck you, Catherine Rampell, because that is denigrating his service.

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His service is the reason he got the job. I guarantee you, Trump is more familiar with Brian Kilmeade than he is with Pete Hegseth. I guarantee you he's been watching Brian Kilmeade for longer. He's probably called and texted Brian Kilmeade over the years longer and knows him a lot better.

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But he did not nominate Brian Kilmeade because he wasn't just looking for a Fox & Friends morning host to run the Pentagon. It's Pete's lifetime of service. while in the arms services and afterward working for veterans that got him this job. And perhaps Trump wouldn't know about him if he hadn't gotten a job on Fox. But that's what opened the door, not what got him the job.

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You're so disrespectful and disgusting. But that is what the elite thinks of our military and certainly of any Trump supporter. Never mind, people are going to wind up in the cabinet. It's Absolutely disgusting. And this is what Pete and Trump and Pam Bondi, who we'll get to, she's on the hot seat right now, I've got some stuff on her, are going to be facing when they take over.

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That they're the chewing gum underneath the sneaker. And they're too stupid and scared to really understand how things ought to be run. Just ask Abby Phillip. She will tell you why... He doesn't belong there. And the other people do. Um, okay. Moving on.

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Okay. Speaking of Fox, I know when you were gearing up for this confirmation hearing of Pete, which is truly one of the most, if not the most, consequential of the Trump picks, what you were asking yourself, same as me, was what does Gretchen Carlson think? Gee, I really wonder who. But PBS decides that Gretchen Carlson's opinion would be really important to get right now. And this was her take.

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I don't think he's going to get a Dem vote. I actually don't think he will. This is how it goes now. We used to get majority, even unanimous support for another party's nominees, unless there was just something so obviously beyond the pale. And now we don't.

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Okay. He's not been accused of sexually harassing anybody. Did that come up yesterday? No. The best they had was somebody at one of those veterans charities may have allegedly harassed somebody at a strip club trip that Pete wasn't present for. And, and I believe it was Sean Parnell who was present and came out on the record saying Pete wasn't there. It was not there.

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So what are you talking about, Gretchen Carlson? You can only be talking about one thing, and that is the alleged rape accusation. Did you go through the report line by line? Because you know as well as I do, you know better than anyone that I will stand up for women, even those I can't stand, if I think they've made a valid allegation. You know that better than anyone.

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And I spent a day going through that woman's police report line by line. And I'm telling you, that woman's not telling the truth. That's my strong legal and journalistic opinion. And I've gone through it episodes and episodes ago in great detail to explain why. Have you? How dare you get out there and wonder why this fake, clearly fake allegation is not disqualifying for him.

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Get talking about it. What have you looked at? When was she drugged, Gretchen? She was fine at 1.30 in the morning. She was fine at 4 a.m., according to three eyewitnesses, two videos, and her husband on the back end. Are those not reliable for you? This is not Pete Hegseth's word. It's independent eye and videotape witnesses and her marital partner saying she was fine, not drugged.

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When did Pete date, rape, drug her, and then rape her? It is an impossibility, which is why he was not charged. So shame on you. Shame on you for using the money you managed to extract out of Fox News for this nonsense to try to push these bullshit claims because you want to see your face on television.

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Now you have to have majority control in the Senate in order to get your nominees through, or at least ones who have any sort of controversy, real or manufactured. And in Pete's case, it's mostly the latter. You know, we've talked about the things in his personal life, which would come back to haunt any nominee.

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And by the way, when you do a Zoom, don't go right in front of the laptop because it makes your face look huge. That's advice to Gretchen and everybody else for that matter. I just, I find that absolutely abhorrent.

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And just for the record, okay, just for the record, because I mentioned it, that whole Fox News thing, just as a point of clarification, when I came forward to talk about what happened between Roger and yours truly, it was not because I believed Gretchen Carlson. It was not because I believed for one minute that she had been harassed, not for one minute.

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It was because I was worried others might be. because she laid the allegation that he might be this thing on the table. But I don't believe that's why Gretchen lost her job for one second, not for one second. She laid the allegation out there and finally the company was getting ready to look into it. And in the wake of that, women started speaking up about what was happening to them.

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So I just want to be clear that it wasn't her particular circumstances that inspired me or I think most people over there to do anything. How dare she come out and try to disparage him this way? Someone who'd been a colleague of hers for quite some time. And I guarantee you, she never saw him drunk. And if she says she did, it's not true.

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All of his Fox and Friends co-hosts have said, never, never, ever. And we spent hours upon hours with him, right? I mean, all of the on the record, Character defenses of Pete have been under people's actual names, stars that you would know. All the Fox and Friends morning crew, all the scurrilous allegations have been anonymous and behind the scenes. Too much time on her. She's irrelevant.

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Jimmy Kimmel had his own little meltdown about the situation. Watch here.

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Ha ha ha. That's hilarious. So fine. I mean, I don't remember him making jokes about Kamala's boozing, which was pretty obvious both before and after she lost. Is that a funny joke? I'd love to see all the funny jokes about what her administration would look like. Is that going to be surrounded by boozers? So she looks like the sober one, Jimmy. Um,

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But let's face it, you know, the Democrats have elected a man as president who is accused of rape and sexual assault by multiple women. They had no problem with it. They were about to elect a woman whose husband was accused of openly beating another woman, not to mention being a serial cheater or at least a cheater with the family nanny, whatever. Like their morals are situational.

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And again, like it's just so fun to just sort of pretend that, ha ha, like he's a rapist, like some ha ha ha ha. Like it's super fun to rip on Pete Hegseth as though, yeah, we love serial harassers. That's not what's been alleged against Pete Hegseth. Sorry to burst your bubble.

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You know, there was a day and age in which you'd be more careful about that thing because you would be worried about getting sued. And Trump is trying to bring that day back. And the media is having a meltdown over it. Right. They don't like it. Oh, you're going to chill free speech. Oh, I'm going to chill defamatory speech. Right. Like that's that's what I'm going to try to chill.

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He's not worried. Pete's got better things to do. And yeah, he's probably he's probably not going to to sue Jimmy Kimmel. Here's another one with him where Kimmel's out there with this little bit about what Trump is allegedly saying about the L.A. firefighters. Equally untrue and just out of nowhere. Listen here. It's SOT 17. I don't want to.

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My God. They're not white enough to be out there fighting our fires per Trump. What a lie. What a disgusting lie. I haven't heard Trump made any remarks about race and the firefighters. However. what the right has been objecting to in the wake of the devastation in Los Angeles is the obsessive focus by Democrats running that state, that city, and that fire department on race.

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Their obsessive focus on race. They're the ones who care about the skin color of the firefighters. His team, This is not a Trump thing. People on our side of the aisle have been saying, that's ridiculous. Why are you focused on the race of the firefighters?

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Why are there 10 million articles and hits and social media posts about how LA had a problem of white firefighters that they're trying to solve? Could you see that? He spins the 180. Trump and conservatives say the fire department's not white enough. What? What? That's exactly the opposite of what happened. Everybody over here said, could we just have standards that everybody passes?

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Whether, by the way, it's not really a race thing. It's a, it's a male, female thing. Um, for the people on the right objecting to this, like just make sure it's like the military. Just, we have nothing against women. We have nothing against moms, by the way, but does anybody really think a nine month pregnant mother should be in combat?

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You need to have your head fucking examined if you think that's a good idea. Um, It's about standards. That's it. It's the left that somehow thinks skin color should matter, whether you're fighting a fire or in the military or playing the cello.

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Remember, Heather McDonald's been talking about how in like these orchestras, they always had, like from the beginning of time, they've had blind auditions in the top orchestras where you go behind a curtain, nobody can see you. They don't know if you're male. They don't know if you're female. They don't know if you're black, you're white, you're Hispanic, anything.

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And if you rock the audition, you're in the band, the orchestra. Well, now post George Floyd, they're getting rid of the drape. They want you to see the skin color because equity or see that it's a woman because equity. It's ridiculous. It's his team doing that, not Trump. Trump is the antidote to that nonsense. So, okay. Our media today, ladies and gentlemen, you're not surprised.

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So Pete's going to be confirmed and you should get used to the phrase Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth. You can go cry in your soup, leftists, over how that makes you feel. But what President Trump wanted, and by the way, he won the election. was somebody who understood the warrior, who understood the fighting men and women, and that's Pete.

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All right, when we come back, we're going to get into Victor Davis Hanson and what he thinks about the Hegseth hearing. And we're going to get into what they're doing to Pam Bondi this morning. Now, Pam Bondi's getting through. There's no similar doubts being expressed by any Republican about Pam Bondi as attorney general.

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Kristi Noem was also supposed to go today, but there's been a delay for DHS. But I'll show you what they're doing to Pam Bondi. In some, they're taking all of the election denialism by Trump and putting it on her and trying to make her disavow. I mean, they're spending minute after minute on whether Trump lost the 2020 election.

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Meanwhile, she is there being confirmed as AG because Trump won the 2024 election. So can we please think about the American people and what's important to them at this point? We've litigated this enough. Victor Davis Hanson is next.

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Joining me now, Victor Davis Hanson, senior fellow at the Hoover Institution and author of The End of Everything, How Wars Descend into Annihilation. So, Victor, great to see you. We'll get to in one second what they're doing to Pam Bondi this morning. She's crushing it. She's doing very, very well. But let me just get your take first on what they tried to do to Pete Hegseth yesterday.

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Yeah, they definitely try to smear him on the woman thing. By the way, we put this together. Tim Kaine was their real attack dog on the women allegations. And, you know, Tim Kaine has found God because he was the one who was like, women, women, women, you cheated, cheated, cheated. But he was BFFs with Bill Clinton and Doug Emhoff. We put a little bit of that together in a butted soundbite.

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He wanted the guy who could answer the questions that came from Senator Sheehy of Montana about how you load a weapon and what the ammo looks like and what the batteries are that you put in your night vision goggles. That's what he wanted.

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Oh, so, gee, all shocks tweeted out yesterday by Alter Frog on X. Go ahead, Victor.

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He did go full Tim Walz. That's exactly right. So then yesterday and today, and the audience probably knows this, but just in case, these nominations, they start in committee. So you have to go before the relevant committee to your position. Like yesterday, it was armed services. Today, Bondi's in front of judiciary.

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And President Trump talks about how and others have told these stories about how when he was in office the first time, he would call the generals in there and they would give him one set of advice. And then he would call the enlisted guys in there and ask for their take.

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And then they will recommend your nomination out to the full Senate floor or not, but typically, yes, they will. And then the full Senate gets to vote on it. So- Blumenthal is on both of those committees because he was there yesterday with Pete. And by the way, once you hit a certain age, gentlemen, this is a pro tip for you. Do not dye your hair black anymore.

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At a minimum, do the salt and pepper situation. I got no problem with the salt and pepper. Do the salt and pepper. I get it. But do not do all pepper because it just looks dumb when we know you're in your 70s and your face looks 70s and that's fine. But stop trying to look like you're a young man of 30 on top of your head. It looks bad. Okay. Dick Blumenthal, no charge for the free advice.

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He reappears today and is going after Bondi on a similar theme we heard with Pete yesterday, which is Trump is lawless and will be asking everybody in the cabinet to be lawless with him. And will you be the bulwark against him? They went after Pete for that. And now here's Blumenthal going after Pam Bondi, our next potential attorney general, with the same line of questioning in SOT 37.

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And this would upset some of these generals, not all of them, but some of these generals would get irritated that these lowly plebs would be listened to by the commander in chief. Well, it turns out Trump was way more interested in what those lowly enlisted guys had to say than the generals. And this pic reflects that. Pete's a major, he's not a general.

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So he came up in this exchange. I think this, they were talking about him in a couple of these. All right, so first this is, there's Senator Whitehouse who tried to go after on whether it's appropriate for prosecutors to start with a name and look for a crime.

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And then you, well, I'll show you Maisie Hirono who was like, she was definitely talking about Kash Patel, but watch this with Senator Whitehouse.

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Victor, I'm just sorry, but isn't it right? Isn't it so great to hear a nominee who's two steps ahead of them? You know, like I see what you're trying to do and screw you because you're the ones who did this.

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But my point is, he wanted somebody who had actual boots on the ground, as Pete put it yesterday, dust on the boots fighting experience, where he was laying his own life on the line repeatedly. for the country. That's what Pete has done, and that is the mentality he's going to bring back into the Department of Defense.

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I think that's right. Be aggressive. Like, don't you don't need their votes. Like you said, I have 53 senators and you don't be aggressive and stop letting them try to control the narrative about Trump in a way that's trying to sink him before he even gets started in the eyes of the American people. He Trump or his nominees. This one was White House again.

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And this is clearly about Cash Patel because you'll hear Bondi reference cash in her answer. Stop 40.

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It was interesting, one of the exchanges where Kirsten Gillibrand, and don't get me wrong, she was hysterical yesterday, very strange performance. But I will tell you that I respect Kirsten Gillibrand a lot more than I do a lot of these other Dem senators. There are a few who I actually like. I like Mark Kelly, too. He gave Pete some guff yesterday, but he's a good man.

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Well, some of those names you just mentioned came up because Maisie Hirono, is she the dumbest in the Senate?

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Yeah. I mean, I I await your nominee for a fellow contender. I think she might she might be number one. She's a Democrat from Hawaii. She started to get into with Bondi whether she's going to prosecute a bunch of different DOJ officials in there under Biden, including Jack Smith, Merrick Garland or Liz Cheney. Bondi refused to take the bait.

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saying, I'm not going to answer hypotheticals and saying, quote, no one has been prejudged and nor will anyone prejudge, which is the right answer, right? It's like, I'm not going to give them a sweeping pass if they've done something and we get in there and we find out. I mean, Liz Cheney's been accused of some serious ethical violations during the course of J6 and the committee hearing.

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So who knows? So that's how she answered it. And then here's Hirono on Trump's enemies.

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Given what we heard yesterday, you didn't meet with me, Mr. Hegseth. You didn't meet with me either or me either. And now you get this woman, you know, she refused to meet with Pam Bondi.

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But Gillibrand has done a lot to help protect women in various spaces, and I respect a lot of what she's done. She's not generally this much of just an emotional mess. But she's wrong about Pete. She kept saying to him yesterday, there's absolutely no slip in the standards for women. Absolutely none. They have to meet all the same tests that the men do.

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You know what else? You know what else? Here's the other piece of it. You're so right. Totally agree. They're bitter about this victory and it's manifesting in their snarky, petty little questions. And in other ways, we just this week saw a couple of reports. Number one, guess who's refusing to go to the inauguration? Michelle Obama. To the snaps. Promises, promises.

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Yeah, of Joy Reid, who's like, Michelle gets it. Love my girl. So Michelle Obama's not going to go. And Kamala Harris... has refused to invite the next second family, J.D. Vance and his wife, Usha, to the residence where she stays, where the vice president stays, for a tour or just for a nicety, you know, which is, I guess, traditional.

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She hasn't done it and she won't do it, notwithstanding the fact that Usha Vance, who has three very young children in the single digits, apparently reached out to say, I could use some direction on this. childproofing the residence, you know, before I get there. So I know what, what I'm going to need. And apparently they didn't get back to her. Eventually someone from the office got back to her.

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Someone from the office is going to let her tour, but it's not Kamala Harris. And eventually I guess Doug Emhoff spoke with Usha, but that's it. Nothing from Kamala whatsoever to JD. These are petty, bitter people.

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And Pete's response was to name specific groups and areas in which there were written or unwritten quotas for allowing women in. And he's looking at her and saying, Senator, in the real world, the rules are being bent to look the other way when it's a woman who fails this test or that. She can't possibly refute that. She can't possibly say that's not true, which is what she was trying to do.

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So your, your point about projection plays perfectly well into what Jimmy Kimmel was doing last night saying Trump's upset that the firefighters out in LA aren't white enough, which is like completely backwards of what actually happened. It was the city of Los Angeles.

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It was the LAFD that decided their ranks were too white and started openly on some initiative to make them less white and less straight. And now a video after video has come out of the fire chief touting how gay she is, and she's a woman. She's gay and she's a lesbian and she's a woman. Second in command, gay and a woman. Third in command, gay, a woman, and black.

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And on top of that, just today, this is making its way on the internet. We went and actually found it ourselves. On the LA, is it PD or FD? It's FD, right, Captain? On side 18. Okay. talking about their pronouns in a video for the disabled, not to mention all the other stuff. Listen here, this is on there right now.

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Okay, so it's FD. This is the group that's having all the troubles, and she needs us to know what her pronouns are. And also has to take a minute out of her briefing on this emergency situation to tell people who are blind what she's wearing and about her skin color and her like this. We're in La La Land, Victor.

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She was saying there's no written standard that would give women a pass. Like women only have to score seven on the fitness test, whereas men have to score nine. Of course. I mean, does that surprise anybody? They didn't put that in writing?

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Mm hmm. Here's here's more. This is L.A. City public information officer spokesperson doing the same. This is up there right now talking about wants us all to know. Well, you'll hear. Watch.

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It's like, you know, it's so performative, this business of like, I'm going to cater to the blind, and I'm going to make sure that they have a visual description of me in their heads before they listen to my talk. Because if you really wanted to do that, Victor, if that were really important to you, as opposed to just performative box-checking, you would do it throughout your little speech.

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But does it also surprise you that when in practicality, they're under massive pressure from their bosses to allow the more women in that they do look the other way when they're a little slower on the run or they have trouble managing their a hundred pound ruck. Uh, and the other things that Pete and the guys were talking about yesterday, like let's get real.

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that require visual knowledge. You cannot cater. Why does it matter for the blind people to have a perfect description of a Latina up there speaking? What's the information? That's what they want to know.

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He's saying, I don't want that anymore. And the messaging from the top is going to be very, very different. Um, I, I, was amused and also irritated looking at some of the coverage of what happened yesterday.

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Here's the other thing, the hypocrisy of some of these people who are in our culture and in our lives virtually. The left, after George Floyd, what did we hear? We had whole books discussed, interviews on NPR about, it was, quote, in defense of looting, in defense of looting. You had authors writing books about it, interviews on leftist radio. You had Trevor Noah out there talking about how, well,

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That's you only don't loot if you're going to uphold the social contract. But when the police violate the social contract, then you have the right, right? Then it's fair game for all. Well. Guess who's super upset about the looting of the $10 and $20 million homes that have had to be evacuated because they're under threat of fire? That same crowd.

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Julia Roberts is out there posting, F you, looters. I'm sure she's very worried that her friend's beach house is about to get burned with her beautiful Picasso that she gifted him. And she doesn't want that to, right? But Where were you when it was poor people with small ma and pa businesses getting burned who did nothing wrong in Missouri, in Wisconsin, and across the country in 2020?

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Every single newspaper and podcast, et cetera, that's not independent or openly conservative, talks about the allegations against Pete as though they're real, they're true, and they've been established, whether it's the public or the drinking, the public drunkenness, Or the allegations that he allegedly raped a woman. Like they just talk about you like accused of rape and signed a settlement.

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That's so interesting. That's from a war historian. Our audience should know. Rashida Jones, the president of MSNBC, just announced she was stepping down. Not sure if it's a firing or forced out, but the readings are in the toilet post-Trump's win. So she's gone. I'm not sure who's taking over, but it's going to be somebody just like her. But it's interesting, isn't it, that

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Michelle Obama and Kamala Harris are behaving so badly. Like, why won't Michelle Obama go to the inauguration? Right. Like, why won't she show up?

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Let me ask you a question, because she also didn't go to the Carter funeral where she knew Trump. And I do wonder because she and Barack both were out there saying Trump's a racist. Barack referenced Hitler is the difference that Barack Obama didn't actually believe any of that. But Michelle Obama did.

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I mean, signed a settlement. That's it. He must be guilty, right? As if no public figure who's innocent and facing the threat that he will lose his job. Fox absolutely would have been in a position of having to fire him. Had this woman come forward and said, he raped me. I'm a conservative. I'm with this Republican women's group.

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Like they'll go along to the extent they have to. But now that he's won, it's like, all right, that stuff I said, I didn't mean any of that nonsense. Exactly.

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Like, yes, yes, we did. What do you mean? We're not going to the inauguration.

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He's actually at this inauguration. You're going to see a line of Elon. Yes, makes sense. Mark Zuckerberg and Jeff Bezos all sitting together. And I think the other heads of social media companies are going to be there, too. Like they're all they've all banned him, said terrible things about him. Not Elon, but the others, certainly. And Trump, you know, it's like they come in and kiss the ring.

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He loves the spirit of American invention and what these guys have done. And he respects success.

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And he came out here on a speaking engagement, which Fox doesn't love anyway. They don't love it when you do these things. So any excuse to make a thing out of it? And Pete, while beloved at Fox, wasn't their top, top guy. So he was expendable. I think his calculation was exactly right, that it was too risky to let this woman go out and tell the public, nevermind his bosses, that he was a rapist.

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And he he'll give you that do as long as you don't, you know, say incredibly nasty things about him, like somebody like Mark Cuban.

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The only thing Donald Trump will call you up to yell at you about is if you say something nasty about him. That's a personal grievance. He's not going to try to infringe on the First Amendment by saying you may not say that you may not speak to that. I really don't think that's what the left is worried about, because, again. projection. All right, stand by, Victor. I got to take a quick break.

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And then his defense is absolutely meritorious. However, it doesn't make him look good. The defense is it wasn't rape. It was consensual cheating on, you know, my yes, technically he was still with his second wife, but he was already with Jen at that point. So my soon to be third wife. All of that doesn't make him look good either.

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We've got major breaking news at this hour. Already seeing the immense power of a second President Trump term. Multiple officials now say Israel and Hamas have agreed to a ceasefire deal that includes the release of dozens of hostages. And one of those officials is President Trump himself, writing on Truth Social, we have a deal for the hostages in the Middle East. They will be released shortly.

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Thank you. Wow. According to the AP, around 100 people are still being held captive inside Gaza, but Israel's military believes at least a third of them are dead. The AP reports the three-phased agreement would begin with the release of 33 Israeli women, children, and elderly, and those wounded, in exchange for... hundreds of Palestinian women and children incarcerated in Israel.

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No reporting right now that we can see about, what about the American hostages? There are a handful left. We don't know, are they in the 33? We don't believe so. The earlier reporting was that we might get two in that first round, that the Americans had originally said we want them all, that they said no, and that it was dropped. So that's with the Biden team. We just don't know. We'll learn more.

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A Trump source to Fox News today said only 23 of those 33 hostages that are going to be released under this deal are alive. That's incredible. They're holding the dead bodies of the hostages. Back with me now, Victor Davis Hanson. It's kind of confusing because the Biden team has been negotiating, but so has Team Trump. He's dispatched his Middle East envoy over there.

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And so I don't know exactly who's negotiating with whom, but there's no question that the Trump threat that all hell is going to break loose if they are not returned by his inauguration, which is Monday. It had to have played a part here.

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So I'm just saying the calculation in Pete's head for why he signed that settlement makes perfect sense to any thinking person. But in the press, it's you got accused and you signed an agreement, so you're guilty. And they know that's not true. And I loved it when the one senator from Oklahoma was like, how many of you cheated on your wives?

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What else is amazing is the numbers, Victor. It's like, OK, so they're going to let out some number, ideally, you know, eventually all 88, but let's say 33 of the hostages they've got in their custody. And Israel is going to let out hundreds. And the so-called hostages that Israel has, they aren't hostages.

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They're prisoners because they were arrested with – there's a due process that they go through in Israel before they arrest somebody. All these people are people who are suspected of terrorism or caught in the act of terrorism against Israel.

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So, yeah, so these people all get out by the hundreds and just the proportionality is not there. But Hamas, this is what happens because Israel values life and Hamas does not.

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He was clearly intimating that he had cheated on his and saying, if it weren't for my wife, I think I'd be in jail, which I'd like to know more about. But he was clearly making the point that he had a very forgiving wife and that he had sinned. And look, there are a lot of marriages where people make really stupid mistakes and the couple decides to get past it.

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Well, this is phase one of the ending, and the ending was a long time coming. I mean, there's a sigh of relief to some extent as it appears to be winding down. Victor, thank you. A pleasure to see you. Speak to you after the inauguration, which is coming up on Monday. Can't believe it. Okay, so we'll see you all tomorrow, and we'll have a full rundown for what else they do to Pam Bondi.

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Um, that appears to be what happened with Jen and Pete, where they started in a difficult position and they had difficulties, not surprisingly at the start of their relationship. And then they got past them. They got past them. All these people are saying Pete's Christian conversion. I think he was always Christian, but he's leaned in is false meant to justify like his bad behavior, but bullshit.

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Like what's your evidence of that? How do you know? Why did he get the big tattoo? Yeah. The big cross on his chest, was that just in case Trump one day nominated him to something so he could tell his story of embracing his Christianity? And he could, like Superman, open up his chest and say, see, I'm a true believer. Bullshit.

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If anything, that tattoo has caused him more trouble than it's helped him. So I just, what is your evidence that his leaning into Jesus is false? I don't see that. I see quite the contrary. If anything, I hear people rolling their eyes that he's become too much of a holy roller. Well, I've seen a lot of people lean into God in my life and read the Bible and have things change for them.

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And I have zero reason to doubt that that's what happened to Pete. And I think Jen too. And I believed him when he said he wakes up in the morning and the two of them pray together. And I think he'll pray not just to do a good job as Secretary of Defense, but pray for our troops and our country and our president as soon as he is sworn in, which he will be.

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But anyway, I want to go over some of the media coverage, just the dishonesty, and get back to a couple of the highlights from yesterday because the public has had some fun with some of these hysterical female Democratic senators. I'm not upset. You know, it's like, thank God we had like Joni Ernst up there who was calm, cool and collected and represented herself very well.

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You know, she was a more Margaret Thatcher type. She wasn't hysterical. And she's had firsthand experience with these issues. So she had reason to be upset if she wanted to be. In any event, let's start with the most, like I did say, and I stand by that Tim Kaine was the most disgusting. He was the most despicable. Like when did you stop beating your wife? What? That's not even a thing.

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It's not even an allegation that Pete's some wife beater. Okay, he got away with it. That's fine. I'd love to go back and see what Tim Kaine has said about, you know, Ted Kennedy, who, you know, let a woman die after he drove drunk and plunged her into Chappaquiddick, into the lake in Chappaquiddick. Did he ask him when he stopped beating the women in his life, when he stopped killing them?

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Like, was he even around? Like, is he... You know, he ran for vice president on the same ticket as Hillary Clinton. He's got a long connection to these old, extremely flawed top Democrats. Love to know his thoughts on that in any event. This is sort of the second in command for worst performance yesterday. But it's tight. I don't know. Is it Duckworth? Is it Hirono?

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Or is it sleeper candidate Slotkin? Sleeper candidate Slotkin of Michigan got under my skin more than any other. And it was mostly because as I watched her, I knew she was smart enough to know better. She's smart. You could tell she's definitely smart, but so infuriating. It was like bamboo shoots under my fingernails listening. Like Hirono was kind of amusing.

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Like I hate you, but you're very amusing. Duckworth was Very annoying and less amusing, like a sad little lady, but like less amusing than Hirono. And then Slotkin was probably the most pernicious because she's got some gravitas in the way she approaches her messaging. And she worked for the CIA under George W. Bush, under Barack Obama. And I'm not sure if she was still there under Trump.

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I think she may have left and she ran for office as a Dem in Michigan in 2018. And that's what she's been doing and now ran for Senate. And she beat Republican Mike Rogers for the Senate seat. That could have been in our seat. She won it too bad because Mike Rogers would have been a far superior choice. So, all right, I guess I'll go through them in that order.

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So you can go on the same journey I did. Let's start with Maisie Hirono, who you heard Michael Knowles say yesterday, no civilized country would make this woman a Senator, but she did. And just what I wanted to do in this soundbite that we cut for you here is show you, yes, she's a moron, but listen to how uninterested she was in any answers from Pete Hexeth. It was all performative.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. Wow, what a day yesterday. President Trump, currently in Qatar as part of his historic trip to the Middle East, where he's laying out a vision. I mean, he's laying out his foreign policy vision. It's incredible.

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And to me, it's so funny because this is, of course, what led George Clooney to be like, oh, my God, he's really too far gone. He doesn't know me. Everyone knows me. But I mean, in his defense, he is world recognizable. OK, Biden hobbled out from around the corner. Clooney knew the president had just arrived from the G7 leaders summit in Italy and might be a little tired.

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But holy shit, he wasn't expecting this. I'm quoting here. The president appeared severely diminished, as if he'd aged a decade since Clooney last saw him in December 2022. He was taking tiny steps, and aides seemed to be guiding him by the arm. It was like watching someone who was not alive, recalled a Hollywood VIP. It was startling. We all looked at each other. It was so awful.

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Um, without naming presidential names, I think out of deference to, you know, mostly George W. Bush, but also Obama to some extent as well. And he's no fan of Joe Biden. That was kind of mentioned too. Plus the democratic party is going through hell week with the renewed focus on Joe Biden. They thought they were done with him, but now all these books come, uh, not letting it die.

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Thank you for being here, the president said to guests as he shuffled past them. Thank you for being here. Thank you for being here. Clooney felt a knot form in his stomach as the president approached him. Biden looked at him. Thank you for being here. Thank you for being here. You know, George, the assisting aide told the president, gently reminding him who was in front of him.

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Yeah, yeah, the president said to one of the most recognizable men in the world, the host of this lucrative fundraiser. Thank you for being here. Hi, Mr. President, Clooney said. How are you? The president replied. How was your trip? Clooney asked. Fine, the president said. It seemed clear that the president had not recognized George Clooney.

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It was not okay, recalled the Hollywood VIP who had witnessed the moment. That thing, the moment where you recognize someone you know, especially a famous person who's doing a fucking fundraiser for you. It was delayed. It was uncomfortable. George Clooney, the aide clarified for President Biden. Oh yeah, Biden said. Hi, George. Clooney was shaken to his core.

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By the way, he would not come out with his story until after that debate, until after it was clear Joe Biden was imploding and wouldn't step aside. He's a fucking coward. Sorry, a lot of F-bombs. My apologies. The president hadn't recognized him, a man he had known for years. Then they go on to say other June 15th L.A. fundraiser attendees were also concerned.

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And the most lady latest, the most recent book is the one by Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson. It's called original sin. And they're going to be on this show on Tuesday. I'm actually really looking forward to this. Let me just tell you something about it because I know Jake personally, and I've told you guys before we're friendly.

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Here's a little more, a little more. They say in this book that Biden's limitations got worse throughout his presidency and he was worse in private than he was in public. You mean it wasn't true when Karine Jean-Pierre and the others were saying in Jen Psaki they couldn't keep up with him behind the scenes? I'm shocked, shocked. But still, I enjoy reading it.

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The real issue, they write, wasn't his age per se. It was the clear limitations of his abilities, which got worse throughout his presidency. I mean, I agree with that because President Trump is, you know, 79 years old and he's doing just fine. What the public saw of his functioning was concerning. What was going on in private was worse.

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While Biden on a day in, day out basis could certainly make decisions and assert some wisdom and act as president. There were several significant issues that complicated his presidency, a limit to the hours in which he could reliably function and an increasing number of moments when he seemed to freeze up, lose his train of thought.

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forget the names of top aides, or momentarily not remember friends he had known for decades. Not to mention impairment to his ability to communicate, ones unrelated to his lifelong stutter. An unnamed Democratic strategist says Biden stole an election from the Dem Party and guaranteed Trump's victory. It was an abomination, said the strategist, abomination.

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He stole an election from the Democratic Party. He stole it from the American people. And then they go on to say one of the people He forgot. He didn't forget his name, but he forgot why he was calling him was Chuck Schumer, then the Senate majority leader. Sometimes the president would call him and after some chitchat, admit, I'm quoting here, that he had forgotten why he called him.

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I help him with his veterans charity and I respect the work he's done to help vets, uh, over the many years, you know, Our politics are very, very different, but I respect him and I respect the work he does in that department. And I like him. But it's going to be a contentious interview because, well, you know all the reasons why. And he knows that. OK, he knows that.

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Sometimes he rambled. Sometimes he forgot names. Schumer wasn't concerned about Biden's acuity, but he was worried about the optics. Biden talked sluggishly. His voice was not just slower, but oddly quieter, reminding Schumer of his mother who had had Parkinson's. His gait was slower. And Schumer gets asked about this on TV, CNN, yesterday in SOT6. Listen here.

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Oh, my God. Is that going to fly? I mean, this is another reason why I like the books being out. It's it is leading to some awkward moments where Democrats are being as Democrat and Democrat blood. Right. Like Dem on Dem violence, Camille.

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Speaking of Dem on Dem blood, Chuck Todd weighed in on Chuck Schumer as follows. Shot seven.

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I think he's looking forward to the opportunity to defend himself. So he's coming to the right place. Somebody who doesn't hate him, who knows all the criticisms about him writing this book, who will raise them. Don't worry, I will. but am also interested in the contents of the book, unlike the left, which doesn't want to discuss them.

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My therapist says that's what's best for me. It minimizes my stress levels. It's amazing. I mean, actually, Chuck Todd is going to go along with this fake gaslighting. Again, that word gets overused, but it's truly what's happening. With the Biden decline, they were actually saying, don't believe your lying eyes. Don't believe your lying ears. He's fine.

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You're being lied to by cheap fake videos that aren't real. And now that all of us who said that's bullshit, he's deteriorating, have been validated and confirmed to be right. They're saying- We can't believe we were lied to. These are lies. They're to blame. They're to blame.

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Except the fundamental problem with that position is that half of us in the media ecosystem, those who are independent and or right-leaning, all saw it and reported on it. It cannot be a cover-up if half of the journalistic ecosphere saw it and reported on it. Right.

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Like the fact that the first half is now pretending they never saw and are outraged because they were lied to doesn't excuse them because they've uttered the words cover up. That's what's so galling about the dynamic at play here.

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Or to the extent they do want to discuss them, they only want to use them to say, Kamala could have won. Kamala, she would have had it in the bag had it not been for the evil Biden. Well, we have a different agenda, which is truth. Kamala would not have won if Biden had dropped out earlier. I have zero doubt about that. She's a uniquely horrible politician. And so I don't buy that spin.

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So true. I mean, he's been, I have to say, David Plouffe has been pretty rich in these excerpts of the book. Like, They effed us. They absolutely effed us. Of course, he's looking to pass the blame on his colossal historic loss, his absolutely terrible implosion as he tried to sell this lady.

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Yes, you do. You got to take responsibility for what happened in your campaign to pluff. Tried to sell that lady to us as the next Obama. Right. He's a liar, too. I'm sorry, but like his gaslighting is just as bad as the others. Like we could have done it if we had more than one hundred and seven days. No, you had honestly one of the probably the worst presidential candidate in U.S. history.

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Sarah Palin looked like an Einstein next to that total moron you tried to sell to us.

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We did what you wanted us to do in part, and we found President Biden calling into Morning Joe the day after that June debate. Here we go.

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But I think Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson and, you know, I've been critical of him to getting up there saying we missed it. You know, he says I covered it, got this award. We we We didn't miss anything, right? So we're going to go over all that. There's nothing, there's no holds barred. There's nothing off the table.

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All right, well, that didn't have the piece in it, but you got it. He was calling in to do his rehab tour and they rolled out the red carpet for that. I mean, anybody who watched the Megyn Kelly show the night of the debate, we did live coverage immediately after, knows I said within seconds of popping up on YouTube live, his presidential campaign is over and Sirius XM too. It ended tonight.

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No matter what they tell you, no matter what happens, he's out. He will not be the nominee. And what you had on MSNBC was that, right? And you had it was a bad night. Everyone has a bad night, which was the official line that Kamala Harris used and Obama used and Joe Biden eventually used.

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And all of his enablers pushed the same bullshit cover for him lies until they started to get the first polling back, which showed the American people had had. had it, you know, to your point earlier, they knew they knew for years and then their noses were rubbed in it by Joe Biden live and they were done pretending that it was a possibility he could do it.

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Oh, we have that. My team cut that. They knew you were coming and they baked this cake.

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And I predict it will be the most interesting interview they give on their book day launch, which is again, this Tuesday. Joining me now for the full show today, guys, I know you love, and that's my friends from the Fifth Column Podcast, Camille Foster, editor-at-large at Tangle News, Michael Moynihan, host of Two Ways, The Moynihan Report, and Matt Welsh of Reason Magazine.

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Look at this one. Okay, the same debate. People forget this happened. Watch this exchange with the understanding that also revealed in this book, the Tapper Thompson book, is the fact that his aides were having serious discussions about how he needed to move into a wheelchair.

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But they knew they couldn't move him into a wheelchair, even though he needed to during the campaign, that it just had to wait until he won reelection. They had already done the short stairs on Air Force One. They'd switched him over to the sneakers. They were shortening the walks he had to do publicly.

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They were trying to put more handrails wherever he had to do stairs or wherever he could get them in general. And on top of all that, they recognized that he was gonna need to go into a wheelchair. He was having, among other problems, severe deterioration in his spinal column, which they lied about and said was an ankle problem.

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They wouldn't reveal that he had severe arthritis and degeneration in his back. So just all part of the lies. Nothing could be just no one could be honest, even about a physical deterioration, which isn't arguably as concerning as a mental in any event. So watch. That's the conversation they were having behind the scenes. As you watch this clip.

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Megan, you've had- As Moynihan speaks, let's play some VOs. Let's please play V1, him falling at Air Force graduation. V2, repeatedly falling up the stairs onto Air Force One.

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She was a Giselle Fetterman, you know, propping him up. She wanted to be in the limelight. It was all about her and her, you know, she loved being first lady, loved it. And she loved that more than she loved her husband and shame on her. She should know better as a doctor. She's a doctor. Don't talk about it. She's definitely a doctor. She's I know. What am I doing? Here's another gift for you.

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What happened when you seemed to call for regime change earlier this week, something that is not U.S. policy and actually could place other world leaders, including men like yourself, in danger? Why did you do that?

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I love that last line. It's Kyle Dunn again. You did it. You said it. Pal. Amazing.

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But yeah, that was 2022. And yes, it did go back early, but I'm just saying like, so somehow... Jake Tapper wasn't able to figure it out, but Kyle Dunnigan had it. He had it. That's the problem with all of these books. Gee, there were some even lay people without a journalist's smell for deception who managed to put two and two together.

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That's why actually the New York Post is reporting today that... Thompson and Tapper have hired a crisis PR agent, uh, not confirmed by us, but that's what the New York, uh, New York post is reporting. They have a PR agent through their publishing house and sorry, political, not the post and, uh, that they've hired have to had to hire this other woman who does crisis PR.

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It's actually kind of funny. Cause I was, I re I remember seeing her name. She's, um, uh, She's done PR work. Her name is Risa Heller. She's done, she's repped Jeff Zucker during a CNN downfall, Anthony Wiener and Jeffrey Toobin. So I don't think she's very good. I think.

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It's like her specialty. Quite literally. Wait, I have one more for you. One more for you. Watch and love.

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I said to him, do you think you could win one of these contests, Mr. Trump? Because with all due respect, you don't seem like the most beautiful of the ladies who are in this pageant. And he says, there she goes again, Megyn Kelly attacking me. She's a nasty lady.

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Okay, back to that debate of June of 2024. There was no better story coming out about when that happened than when Art of the Surge launched on the Tucker Carlson Network, done by his former executive producer, who put together a behind-the-scenes, multi-episode look at the Trump campaign, including in Butler, Pennsylvania, and had all sorts of great nuggets you hadn't seen anyplace else.

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You should definitely go and watch it on YouTube when you can. He souped to nuts said what he believes and why he's doing the things he's doing, that he is after an era of peace and prosperity, saying, I don't like war. I mean, it seems like something you wouldn't have to say, but you kind of do, given the history, let's be honest, of the Republican Party in recent years.

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I mean, Butler among them, but they were there with Team Trump during the June debate. And they got on camera the behind the scenes reaction with Laura Trump, Ben Carson, Lindsey Graham was there, J.D. Vance is in it. And you can see the jaws fall open. We pulled it back up. Here it is.

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Before they had a partisan reaction, they had a human reaction. Oh, my God. What is happening? Medic, medic.

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I wasn't upset. I was like, every hair in the back of my neck stood up like, holy, oh my God, it's happening. It's happening live. Like it's every, we'd been enjoying the debate as a family with some friends. And then it was like, shut up, everyone shut up. Like, you know how like- Like you're kind of watching with one eye.

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You can miss the long discussion on Medicare, but it was like, everyone be quiet. Even my kids were like, what's wrong with him? What's wrong? It was just one of those moments. Okay. There's a lot more to discuss. I do want to get to what Trump said in Saudi Arabia because it was really telling and it's already lighting up the Republican party. And I'll tell you how. Fifth column is here.

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So Trump goes to Saudi Arabia. He gets a king-like welcome, which they're no dummies. They know exactly what he loves and how to soften him up. And I mean, it worked. And... I guess it's working both ways because Trump is announcing major investments into the United States and even cooperation on defense spending with the Saudis now. He's claiming it's some $600 billion or possibly more.

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Others are suggesting it's less than that, but definitely there's been some investment. Here he is. Okay, but all that to the side because it's good to get money given to us by other countries. But Trump laid out his foreign policy vision like once and for all in a 40-minute speech that was well-delivered and had the Saudis clapping for him over and over and over.

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So do you think I'm doing the right thing by platforming Tapper and Thompson on their book?

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Now, my pals over at Commentary, who've proudly described themselves as neocons— were not clapping. They were unhappy this morning as I listened to just a bit of their show, because I'm curious to see what their reaction is. Not happy. And Trump took direct aim at neocons and sort of talked about repeatedly, it's the dawn of a new day.

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And we are not going to be treating enemies as enemies just for old time's sake. We're gonna reevaluate everyone because what we want is prosperity and economic cooperation and no more chaos. and went on about how he doesn't like war. Here's a little bit to kick us off, Sat 22.

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OK, I lied. I got I got let me just go through this because I was setting it up what his message was. So he follows up on that. No more bombing each other. Right. Like, let's cooperate. Let's have cooperation and not chaos and commerce and not chaos.

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Classic Trump, the negotiator, because he sees everything as a possible deal. That's been his approach domestically. It's been his approach to foreign policy. And last but not least, here is the shout-out against the neocons, SOT25.

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That last one is so big and to me is so right on. I have to say, like, I was almost standing on my feet cheering for it because I feel like when I was on Fox News, all we did was cheerlead these wars, right? you know, and kind of dismiss or express disdain for people who had serious questions about them, most of whom were Democrats.

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And in retrospect, with the benefit of all this hindsight, that was wrong. We cheer-lit ourselves right into two forever wars in which we expended countless lives, blood, and treasure. And for what? Now we have the benefit of hindsight to look back and say, for what? Yes, there was some good. ISIS is no more. And we didn't get attacked again domestically for 20 years.

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You cannot say that's nothing anymore. Um, but I think like a lot of the troops who were over there, I, I have serious questions about whether any of it was worth it or whether that thing should have ended when, when George W. Bush declared mission accomplished after the opening bombing campaign in Afghanistan period and not 20 more years and not Iraq and on and all of that stuff.

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So to hear the sitting president, a Republican, uh, Right. Twenty four years later. I mean, truly, like officially declare it a failure and say we're going in a different direction. We cannot nation build the greatest nations that have thrived over that time period have thrived thanks to their own ingenuity. Yes, America has supported Saudi Arabia in large measure.

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Yes, I think it will be. And no one's under any pretenses that it's going to be anything else, right? It's like what I say about Jake and Alex and them writing this book, it goes out of this microphone. It's not like I'm just whispering it in Doug's ear. You know, I've been pretty open about my thoughts on the media cover-up of Joe Biden's problems. So we'll do all that.

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But he's saying thanks to yourselves, your desire to improve your community, not thanks to the great hand of America that came in and tried to impose democracy on you. And it's just to me like a before and after line where he's declared the past approach over and not successful. And it's him saying this is the dawn of a new day.

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We're taking the world in a new direction, says the head of the greatest superpower on earth still for now. What are your thoughts?

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I don't have my finger on the pulse of Saudi Arabia, I readily confess. But there have been reforms there. They really have been pushing a crackdown on jihadism over there and trying to send the message, you know, the king and the crown prince, no more of that shit.

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Like they are trying to turn a page into more of an economic based society without so many radicals, you know, festering the jihad in the ranks. But keep going.

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But wait, this is an important point because... This is another before and after moment pivot point because one of the reasons we got ourselves involved in so many conflicts around the world is because we have approached the world as we are this superpower and we know better. We will be the arbiter of who's committing human rights violations. And frankly, we haven't been wrong.

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I mean, in most of these instances, we're totally right. It's not like the Chinese Uyghurs are having a great life and we should just look the other way, though we are, right? So there are real human rights violations happening in other countries. But Trump also offered a new entry point on thinking about that. Here it is in Sat 22B.

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But I will say, if you're looking for it to be done through a hateful lens where I just emerge with these two left in a puddle of blood, that that's not going to happen. I mean, I will be respectful to them as I am to anybody who does me the courtesy of swinging by the podcast.

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So I really believe this. I'll give you the floor, but I just want to say one other thing. I really believe this because Trump came under fire for doing deals with Saudi Arabia and being open to Saudi Arabia after the murder of Jamal Khashoggi, a reporter, American reporter. And the messaging back from the administration at the time was basically like, We don't love it. Okay.

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We don't love it, but we actually need to get along with them for all sorts of reasons. Not least of which is we have a mutual foe and that's Iran. And you know, like Trump all along is the deal maker. You know, he looks and he's like, it's not great. I don't love it, but it's more important to me that at the 30,000 foot level, we're getting along with them

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because they can be helpful to the United States and not getting along with them is too big a disaster. Okay, now I'm done. Go ahead.

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You know, it's going to be contentious, but it's going to be robust and meaningful and honest and unsparing, but hopefully cordial in a way that makes them feel respected and glad they came, but makes the audience also glad they came by. You know what I mean?

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And I like the libertarians better, so I shouldn't have left them off the list. list. There's not many.

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You guys remember when Hillary Clinton tried to press that big reset button over in Russia, and it was spelled wrong, and it was a disaster? It was a nightmare. She was Barack Obama's Secretary of State, and she completely fumbled it. They were looking for a reset with the Russians, like, let's be friends again.

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That's what this is, only it's sincere, and it has the potential to actually be effective. I mean, Trump's basically saying, can we just get along? Like, literally saying it to everybody, like Iran, right? Like, we don't want to bomb you. We will totally bomb you. But we have this. Here's a little bit of it in SOT 23.

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So he's like, let Iran, we can get along. He lifted the sanctions on Syria. He announced that yesterday, which is big saying, we're going to try to help you succeed. Now you who have taken over for Bashar al-Assad, you with like weird Al Qaeda background or terrorist backgrounds, but you know what? Let's give you a chance and see how you can do. He's, you know, trying to

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foster peace between Ukraine and Russia way more so than the last administration. He's trying to foster peace in Israel and Gaza, like working tirelessly through Witkoff and others to try to get those two sides to come to the table. He did. The United States and Trump in particular was very instrumental in settling for now the India Pakistan war that started a couple of days ago.

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He's bringing home hostages, American hostages from country after country. I mean, Trump Truly, he is devoted to finding peace in the world and to saying, I know these people have done awful things. It's 2025. We're turning the page. We're willing to give you kind of a pass, a bye, without blessing it.

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to try to go forward in a better way, to try to say you could be business partners with the hottest ticket in town, the United States of America. We'll do business with you. We'll help your economy get better. We'll help you have skyscrapers like they have in Riyadh. But you're gonna have to back off the killing all the Jews thing and the terrorist thing. And we'll see whether that's-

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with some of these actors. But to me, it's so refreshing to hear somebody state the mission as like an actual reset and the thought of like possibilities.

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I mentioned John Bolton, who, yes, worked for Trump for a short time. But this is a blatant condemnation of the Bush administration. Of course. It's Donald Rumsfeld. It's Dick Cheney. It's Condoleezza Rice. And it's John Bolton. It is all of them. Colin Powell, too. On the coals without calling them out by name, saying that air is done. And Trump's felt it for a long time.

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He was very critical of the war in Iraq. It's one of the main things he's he was saying when he first ran about how wrong that war was. And he was saying it at the time. He said it on Fox and Friends. He said it elsewhere. Like he's had this general aversion to the knee jerk march toward war for, I think, his whole life.

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Sanctions lifted. He clearly lifted the sanctions on Syria as a... at the request of the Saudis. He said that in speech. As soon as he said, I'm lifting the sanctions on Syria, he looked at the crown prince and he goes, oh, what I do for you, the things I do for you.

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He's not trying to hide anything, but that's the transactional Trump. Other than we had trans Trump and we have transactional Trump. We prefer transactional.

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That's the thing. And I, and I also do want to hear the stories like as much as we're all like, oh my God, how is Jake Tapper writing a book about, you know, that I do want to hear what Jake Tapper found because I think he's probably got sources a lot closer to Joe Biden than I do, you know? So it's, it's almost like you need these media figures to,

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He's not- That's probably true. It's not going to happen. Too much blowback. And John Thune came out yesterday saying, no, you're not getting congressional approval for that. Though John Thune, I don't know that he's known for really standing up against Trump when the chips are down. We'll see. We still have a Congress? I didn't know we had a Congress. We'll see how much Trump wants to play.

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And I think that that is a material concern. The plane is a tough one. But if the quid pro quo is for us, the United States is a different story. You know, if he's getting things for the United States, it's a different story. This is what I was saying when Trump was running that like Yes, he's a narcissist. All presidents are narcissists. I mean, very, very few, I think, are the exception to that.

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But I was saying, like, you look at him and you think, well, that could be very useful to us if the payoff is not exactly, like if Trump's ego is served not by compliments, yes, of him, but not just by that, but by wins for the United States. If we can get the United States lined up with Trump's ego, this could be very, very beneficial for us. And I really think that's what's happening.

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But I think as a foreign policy matter, this is the declaration of a win for the restrainers, for the J.D. Vances of the world, for the Tuckers of the world who have had enough. And even Marco Rubio, who's a much more interesting figure because he talks restrainer. He definitely gets it and he's on board with it. And I talked to him myself about that. But he's got a neocon past.

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He understands that other wing of the Republican Party that you know, where, where he says it is terrible what's happening in Gaza. And every single one of those deaths is the fault of Hamas, right? Like that's what the neocons want to hear. Like there's a clear understanding of morality in the world from the United States of America.

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And they're willing to toe the line to make sure the right side is supported, right? Like that's kind of, so he's a more of a hedge bet in any event. It was fascinating to hear Trump just spill it out. At the same time, he's saying, we're going to reset. We won't hold the past sins against you. We're not going to try to import culture. You do your thing.

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It's for God to judge your decisions, not for me. At the same time, he's like, we might invade Greenland and Panama and might have to take Canada too.

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to do this to some extent because I'm not that we didn't know, but aren't you interested in the details of how bad it was? I am. I'm reading all these excerpts, not just from this book, but from them all the four voraciously. I'm like, I just feel so validated. I'm sure you guys feel it too. It's like way new. Right. And then now you get the specifics of how right you were. Yeah.

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But I think the real thing... I don't think it's fair to say Tucker can't stand Israel, but they're critical of Israel.

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But, you know, when we were talking about how the United States did the, the forever wars, you know, the Iraq disaster, staying too long in Afghanistan, not knowing, you know, not having any plan, training all these troops and then leaving all of our tanks behind, all of it's such a nightmare. Um, But we have been messing in foreign policy throughout the world for a long, long time.

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You know, we're talking about Ukraine and Russia. We, of course, were over there under the Clinton administration. You know, we were there under the Obama administration. Hillary Clinton was over there trying to make regime change happen. I think this is Trump saying, we're done with that. We may invade you, but we won't quietly try to change your leadership. like we did in Ukraine.

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Like, you know, we clearly would, some would like to do in places like Russia. He's like, those days are over. So the verdict was in the day he was reelected, but this is him really spelling it out. And I'd love to find, I'm sure we can, who wrote that speech because that was a barn burner. And Trump, he delivered it fine. He was a little quiet in the messaging. I think he was tired.

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There was video of him maybe falling asleep. The white house denied it, but I didn't blame him. It was like, it looked very, very hot and kind of boring in there to some extent, because we saw this from Trump. Here it is. Watch. Um, uh, yeah, let's stand by. Watch this V five. So he's not actually asleep. This is from Fox News. But he's doing the old closing my eyes for a minute. This is boring.

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Call Jake Tapper. There's a difference between boredom and infirmity. Because didn't you look over at Marco Rubio at the event? And did you guys see this picture of him yesterday? It's amazing. Look at him. For the listening audience, if you haven't seen it, it's him with like the leg spread, the hands crossed. He's got literally gaping mouth. He looks kind of sweaty.

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He's got a little bit of a belly there with all due respect to Marco Rubio. And he looks so tired and so like get it over with. It's hilarious. I think there must be something about this room that was like hot and not that stimulating, guys. I don't know.

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Yeah, no, I don't know. In any event, I think it was a successful visit. And I think it's the beginning. It's the dawn of a new day. I feel that. And we'll see. We'll see whether we have partners who are willing to turn that page and, you know, join him in this new good faith effort. In some instances, there's like a religious fervor that we're never going to get past. There will be no Mara Gaza.

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That's not happening. Um, that they're just too dug in on their very bizarre ideology of trying to wipe Israel off the face of the map. I don't think anyone can solve that. I don't, I don't know what to do about that. Like most humans on earth. I don't know what to do about that. But I think, you know, with the Saudis, I don't know about the Iranians really don't know about the Iranians.

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Trump even complimented the Houthis. He's like, you know, the Houthis, like we resolve that they stopped bombing us. He's like, boy, they're tough. They're tough. Like he's like throwing out the nice compliments. So like anybody who comes to the table, he's like, I'm willing to look at you anew, which is not a bad trait. All right. Stand by guys. Got to take a quick break.

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Okay, so the P. Diddy trial is now in day three, Sean Combs. And it's unbelievable. I mean, it's just like, I want to stress again to the audience, we must distinguish before we get the legal instructions between disgusting, filthy, pervert, cad asshole and criminal. That's really what this trial is about. I think even the defense cedes point one. They have to. They have to.

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There won't be a juror in that room that can stand Sean Combs. But the question here is whether he broke the law. And even your humble correspondent is open-minded to being persuaded that there wasn't a technical legal violation. I really want to see the, I haven't looked up the proposed legal instructions, but we'll get them, jury instructions on what the law is.

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Because I'll tell you, like, I've got questions. I'm horrified by the testimony, but I've got questions about whether they're going to get a conviction. Okay. I hope they do, but that's just because I can't stand him. Okay. The star witness is Cassie. She was a singer, Cassie Ventura. She signed with him when she was 18 years old or right around there. She became a singer.

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She signed like a 10 record deal with Bad Boy Records, which is his. And within like two years, he started having sex with her. And he was with a different woman at the time, but shockingly, he wasn't faithful and started sleeping with Cassie. And then she testified how in the beginning, by the way, when she took the stand, she was eight and a half months pregnant yesterday.

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His side was so worried about that making her look overly sympathetic that they asked if... She could be brought in and put on the stand without the jury in the room. Look at this. I mean, apparently they're not exaggerating. She had that enormous belly that we all get in the very, very last few days, which is where like it's just it becomes like voyeuristic to even look at a woman at that point.

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It's just out of control. God bless you, Cassie. So anyway, the judge overruled that and said she can walk in her full pregnant self. And she did. And she testified about how he started very early on. telling her he wanted her to participate in these freak offs. That's what he called them. And these things, I mean, it's the right word for them.

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I mean, they're absolutely depraved behavior where he would hire these male sex workers and she's testifying. This is all, you know, her testimony that they would come over and that Sean Combs would be there watching and directing everything. And that there would be multiple sex sessions within the one freak off, which could go for days.

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But even if it went for hours, there'd be multiple sessions in which she would have to perform with these male sex workers, including in like outfits and fishnets and masquerade masks and hooker heels is how it was described. Then he would tell them exactly what sex acts he wanted and how, and then he would participate in some of them.

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We talked yesterday, forgive me, listening audience about how he allegedly both himself and through the male sex worker urinated on her. And I guess in her mouth, um, to where she testified she was gagging. She thought she was going to throw up.

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She testified that the freak-offs quote became a job where there was no space to do anything else but to recover and to just feel normal again, that they could go from 36 hours to as long as four days. that they took, quote, a big chunk of my life, sometimes on a nearly weekly basis.

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At the end of the sessions, the hotel linens were often very soiled with baby oil residue, as well as bodily fluids, including blood and urine. And his staff, keep in mind, he's being accused of like racketeering, like the way a mob boss does, where he has an enterprise of criminals around him.

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That's why these details are important, that his staff would both set up the freak-off rooms and clean up the freak-off rooms, that eventually they graduated to adding like television lighting, like Klieg lights in there, that would have red lighting coming out of them or blue lighting coming out of them to set just the right mood.

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Choking back tears, she testified, reading here from the New York Times, she testified the freak-offs made her feel disgusting and humiliated. If he wasn't in the room, he would sometimes watch over FaceTime. He began recording the freak-offs. Side note, the media has now filed a request to see the videotape of the freak-offs.

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And the parties are objecting, saying they don't need to see everything. Like Cassie doesn't want them to see it, but Diddy doesn't want them out. And the judge says he's leaning towards releasing them because there's a little thing called the First Amendment. But of course, the media is like, we want to see the freak-offs. Show us the tape. That's what the media's position is.

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She lists the drugs that he provided to the participants, ecstasy, cocaine, marijuana, ketamine, mushrooms, whatever was the drug of choice at that point. She says she took the drugs for disassociating and to have some kind of buffer from what she was experiencing. She talked about how he beat her. uh, repeatedly.

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She talked about that one incident we saw at the hotel intercontinental where he dragged her and beat her on the ground. She was trying to escape a freak off. Like it was just a day ending. And why she was like, I mean, that's kind of, yeah, that we did that all the time and he would beat me sometimes. And that time I made a run for it. And, uh, I stayed on the ground once he knocked me down, uh,

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because it was self-defense, I thought maybe he wouldn't be able to hit me as easily if I stayed down. I mean, he's just an absolute disgusting, hideous pig, awful man. She said she stayed to keep him happy. When you're in love with someone, you don't want to disappoint them. But as the years passed...

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Even as she still sought to please him, she recognized he had become increasingly abusive, beating her and orchestrating ever more degrading sessions that made her feel like her career was no longer music, but performing in his sexual, for his sexual satisfaction. Here's the thing.

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She testified, she was asked, the cross has begun, about why, like whether she told him that she didn't want to do it. And the testimony, as I understand it thus far, has been basically no. She said she would do it. And they have text messages of her saying to him, like, I can't wait for the next freak off. I can't wait to do it.

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Like, I might not be able to do it today because I have a red carpet. And she testified about how she had to get all drugged up and also he would beat her. And it's like she did have to go to the red carpet with a black eye. I think it was after that intercontinental one we saw. But the defense has text messages from her being like, can't wait. I love it. Like, when's the next one?

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And so this has the real danger for the prosecution of morphing into a Harvey Weinstein esque case where it's. It's only a crime if he forced you. If you guys are just freaks in bed who wanted to do this stuff, yes, there's a question of the prostitution element. But he's not being charged with abuse, with assault.

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And a lot of the viewers wrote in after our discussion yesterday saying, what do you mean? He beat her. It's on tape. Yes, I know. No, he's not being charged with that. That's not one of the charges. The charges relate to solicitation of prostitution or like arranging the transportation of a prostitute and Rico racketeering a criminal enterprise.

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So it's relevant if there's a crime of prostitution and relevant if there was a crime on which the statute of limitations has run called assault. But they don't have to actually prove any of that. And he's not exactly being charged for that. But if this is consensual sex, or at least if Sean Combs believed that it was consensual sex, he could skate. legally.

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And that's, that's my impression so far. That's I very open-minded to being this going another way, your thoughts on the cultural impact of this trial and just thoughts on what we're learning now about one of the most famous people in America.

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It's already getting incredible results. We're gonna show you the highlights of the speech, which the mainstream media is all but ignoring. I mean, there's very little coverage of this. in Saudi Arabia. Meanwhile, this is a watershed moment. It seems pretty clear to me this is a watershed moment for our country, the Republican Party, and the dawn of a new era. Yes, his election, but this is him

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Also the prostitute not alleging any force. He testified that there was a male prostitute or whatever escort. I don't know how he goes by. saying she was the one who would text me saying, come over for the freak off. She was the one who would pay me. She and I developed like a friendship on the side. And he did say, I grew very concerned for her. I said, you know, you've got to leave him.

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He beats you. He testified you heard a beating. but like the beatings are as horrific as they are. And they are criminal in their own right though. The statute of limitations may have run on assault. I haven't actually looked that up, but there's a reason he didn't get charged with those. And certainly the one at the intercontinental.

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Oh, and by the way, the, the, the testimony by this one guy who was a security officer at the hotel intercontinental where that beating took place was that he saw it. He went up there and this is a Friday. He went home for the weekend. And when he got back on Monday, the tape was gone. The tape was gone. They paid somebody a hundred grand for it.

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So this is what the value, I think, the book's bringing, this book and the others. None of us is going to soften on the media. I mean, I think that's the reality. Like, we know. Anybody who's an independent journalist or right of center knows exactly what the media did with this story. We know.

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Well, no, Diddy offered him a hundred thousand dollars in a wad of bills saying here, please make this go away. And I think the testimony was like, he was like, no, I'm not doing that. That's not how this works. This guy's LAPD. No, but I think he was legit. But when he got back on Monday, the tape was gone. But he didn't call the police because she didn't want him to. She didn't want to testify.

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Most domestic violence victims do not want the police called unless they're actively in fear for their life at that second. And then they almost always live to regret it and recant. It's terrible. It's a terrible dynamic. You know, Gabby Petito, we saw a similar thing when she could have saved herself in any event. Mm-hmm.

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I don't know because all that testimony about how the escort willingly came, Cassie was the one who reached out to him. He seemed to enjoy it. He thought she was the most beautiful woman in the world. Like no one, I don't know how we've gotten to like, she's being forced by like the equivalent of a mob boss yet.

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But I personally would like to see some sort of congressional investigation, like an actual commission looking into... Who was president? How bad was it? Who covered up? Who lied about the mental fitness of the sitting commander in chief who had access to the nuclear codes? We need a serious, maybe even bipartisan commission to actually get to the bottom of this.

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What's crazy is SDNY does not normally lose. They do not normally lose. The feds and in federal court, they don't bring the case unless they've got you. I mean, that's why it's so awful to be indicted by the feds. So I have been underwhelmed so far by what they say they have. Some of the worst stuff

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was in these, let's not forget, complaints brought by a guy who seemed like a questionable lawyer, who was called out as a questionable lawyer by a judge, but that guy also represented Cassie, I think, if memory serves, and she got an eight-figure payout, and what he wrote about her turned out to be true.

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I mean, or look, at least she's backing it up, and she got paid eight figures, so Sean Combs was scared. Um, so anyway, we'll continue to watch it and see where this goes. I think this has cultural implications well beyond P Diddy. I mean, who knew how many in Hollywood covered it up?

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Who didn't give two shits that he was allegedly engaging in the serial abuse of women, not to mention these parties with, you know, as we worry about Justin Bieber and others, we'll leave it at that for now, guys. Thank you. Great to see you tomorrow. A first time guest on the program, Teamsters president, Sean O'Brien. See you then. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show.

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And so big books by Democrats and their media enablers are helpful in that particular regard. The left does need to be aware that That I know they were willing participants in the lie, but they need to be aware of just how bad it was. And this needs to be shoved down their throats so that they can't just be like, oh, it's backward looking, which is what they're saying now.

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Fuck you and your backward looking. We had a sitting president who was a vegetable. We need an investigation. No, it's not. You can't just dismiss it and pretend like it didn't happen by saying backward looking. It's here right now. And I realize it's brand damaging for the Democrats. I don't care if it has to be just a singular party investigation, then so be it.

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But we do need to get to the bottom of it. I want to, in line with what you just said, Camille, here's Jake Tapper speaking. The book, they published an excerpt in The New Yorker and the advanced copy was obtained by... The Guardian and Axios has a piece of it. That's where Alex Thompson's from. And so the news reports are already hitting.

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So Jake gave an interview on his own network, CNN, speaking to the lies. That was his word yesterday, Sat1.

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pointing the sails and letting us know where he's taking the United States. And it sounded amazing. I mean, I was really moved by parts of what he said. It was a very honest assessment of some of the things we've done. It wasn't an apology tour like Barack Obama took. He wasn't saying he was sorry for anything, but he was free about criticizing prior US decisions.

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Here's Brian Stelter. June 19th, 19th, 2024. We are five days before the debate, which I believe was June 24th, if memory serves. But we are within days of the fall down debate. And here's Brian Stelter trying to dismiss all these terrible videos of Biden with his aggressively deteriorating decline. Stop 15.

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It's amazing he said that. Like, they actually were spinning. The debate was the 27th on CNN and elsewhere, not just there, MS, of course. that really the problem here is not at all Joe Biden. It's these terrible right-wing cheap fakes that are manufactured and not believable fake videos of the alleged decline. It's incredible.

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This is not long after that Clooney fundraiser, which is detailed in this new book, And it's horrifying. And again, we knew that we knew that. But more details about just how horrifying it was. And let me just give you a couple. Then I'll give it back to you, Moynihan. Highlights. Biden did not did not recognize George Clooney at this June 15th fundraiser.

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The Trump administration is in ongoing talks with Iran to secure a new nuclear deal. one that may allow the regime to retain its civilian nuclear program. While the president expresses openness to a working relationship with the Iranians, the positive talk also coming with a warning.

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And remember to use code MK to save 15% off your order. a new book set to delve into the effort within President Biden's closest circle to hide the true extent of his mental and physical deterioration leading up to his withdrawal from the 2024 election.

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And that'll do it for your AM update. I'm Megyn Kelly. Join me back here for The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Triumph Channel 111 at noon east, on youtube.com slash Megyn Kelly, and on all podcast platforms.

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CNN's Jake Tapper and Axios reporter Alex Thompson set to release Original Sin, President Biden's decline, its cover-up, and his disastrous choice to run again next Tuesday, kicking off the media blitz this week. By the way, they'll be here that day. Thompson and Tapper interviewing more than 200 people, they say mostly Democratic insiders, on the final two years of the Biden presidency.

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The first excerpts from a book exposing the behind-the-scenes operation to conceal the extent of President Biden's decline are released. But what's the real backstory? DNC Vice Chair David Hogg faces another attempt to remove him from his party position no sooner than he obtained it. The star witness in the Diddy trial takes the stand.

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finding the White House remaining determined to conceal the reality of Mr. Biden's condition, even at risk of the president's health.

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In a preview of the book published by Axios, the author's writing, quote, Biden's physical deterioration, most apparent in his halting walk, had become so severe that there were internal discussions about putting the president in a wheelchair, but they couldn't do so until after the election.

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The book outlines an effort by Biden staffers to spin the president's stiff, shuffling walk as a complication from a November 2020 foot fracture, instead of revealing he was dealing with significant spinal degeneration. And by spin, we mean lie. The authors report President Biden's doctor, Kevin O'Connor, had long expressed concerns about the physical toll the office was taking on Mr. Biden.

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Quote, O'Connor sometimes quipped that Biden's staff members were trying to kill him while he, Dr. O'Connor, was trying to keep him alive. The Guardian also previewing an advanced copy of the book detailing Mr. Biden's mental decline, writing the June 2024 debate in Atlanta was no anomaly. Since at least 2022, Biden has been increasingly prone to losing his train of thought

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Wednesday, May 14th, 2025, and this is your AM Update.

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and struggled to remember the names of top aides. When he proved incapable of delivering a two-minute video address without stumbling, aides filmed him with two cameras so the edit would be less obvious. Newsflash, it was obvious. Some of us knew.

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The authors quote one senior aide admitting, quote, "'We attempted to shield him from his own staff, "'so many people didn't realize the extent "'of the decline beginning in 2023.'" President Biden last week on The View denying he's suffered any cognitive decline.

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Original Sin, this book, also describing the lead up to President Biden's decision to drop his reelection bid and the fallout within the Democrat ranks. Democrat heavyweights, including powerful fundraiser Ari Emanuel, the agent. and Senator Chuck Schumer behind the scenes urging the president to withdraw from the race. Some blaming the delay in his dropout for Kamala Harris's loss.

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Former Obama advisor David Plouffe telling the authors Mr. Biden, quote, describing the 107-day campaign window for Kamala Harris as a, quote, The details of the book, scandalous, but for many in this listening audience, they're not exactly shocking.

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For years, questions about Mr. Biden's sharp decline, raised almost exclusively by right-leaning or independent journalists, were called outrageous and conspiratorial or ableist. It's now safe for establishment media figures to report on the story without risking their precious careers or status.

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And it is now safe for Democrat operatives to admit what many outsiders could see plainly without needing super secret sources. Joe Biden was rapidly deteriorating physically and mentally while in office. Mr. Tapper here on a Tuesday CNN appearance.

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Mr. Tapper himself regularly defended President Biden's verbal mishaps as symptoms of a childhood stutter. Radio host Buck Sexton, Tuesday on The Megyn Kelly Show, reacting to the media's sudden curiosity about the inner workings of the Biden White House.

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Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson again will join the Megyn Kelly show on Tuesday. Should be interesting. David Hogg, progressive activist turned DNC vice chair, now facing a second attempt to remove him from his position. Mr. Hogg running into conflict with party leadership following Hogg's PACs pledged to spend 20 million bucks primarying Democrats in safe blue districts.

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That effort, Mr. Hogg says, is meant to freshen up his party. DNC chair Ken Martin heading an effort to force all DNC leadership members to sign a neutrality pledge or to vacate their party positions. Mr. Hogg fighting that effort. The vote is set for the August DNC meeting.

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Meantime, in a second challenge unrelated to the neutrality pledge, a DNC member who lost her bid to fill one of the vacant vice chair positions filing a different challenge within the DNC. Kaylin Free, alleging David Hogg and another male vice chair, won their seats based on a flawed and sexist process. Ms.

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Free says the DNC violated its own rules, amounting to a procedural issue she says gave male candidates more chances at winning a seat making it virtually impossible for female candidates to win. To achieve gender parity across leadership, including male, female, and, oh, of course, non-binary candidates, the DNC developed a convoluted process.

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Listen here to one DNC official laying it out ahead of the elections earlier this year.

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This is what we have to do for this vice chair race. Even that guy sounds confused. The DNC panel agreeing with Ms. Free in a 13 to 2 vote to void the elections of Mr. Hogg and Malcolm Kenyatta. The resolution now must be voted on, though, by the full DNC. If it passes, Hogg is gone and so is Kenyatta.

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Mr. Hogg reacting to the decision in a statement, quote, while this vote was based on how the DNC conducted its officers' elections, which I had nothing to do with, it is also impossible to ignore the broader context of my work to reform the party, which loomed large over this vote. The DNC has pledged to remove me, and this vote has provided an avenue to fast-track that effort.

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The full DNC vote not yet scheduled. It may be held in the August meeting or it could be held virtually ahead of that meeting. Hogg and Kenyatta will remain in their positions until that time. Good luck. Coming up, the star witness in the criminal case against rapper Sean Diddy Combs takes the stand.

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The Diddy trial kicking off this week. Opening statements delivered in the federal criminal trial of rapper Sean Diddy Combs in New York City. Mr. Combs pleading not guilty to charges of racketeering, conspiracy, sex trafficking and transportation to engage in prostitution.

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Prosecutors aiming to prove Mr. Combs led a criminal enterprise using force, coercion and manipulation to traffic women for sex with help from his inner circle. if convicted, Mr. Combs could face life in prison.

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The criminal investigation gaining momentum following a civil sexual assault suit filed by Cassandra Ventura, known professionally as Cassie, the on-again, off-again girlfriend and employee of Mr. Combs. Her lawsuit was settled right after it was filed in 2023. The New York Times reporting an eight-figure payout by Combs to Ventura. Dozens of civil suits against Mr. Combs followed Ms.

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Ventura's case, Federal investigators also kicking off a criminal investigation into Mr. Combs, raiding his L.A. and Miami homes in March 2024. Agents seizing guns, ammo, drugs, and large amounts of baby oil. Prosecutors argue Mr. Combs coerced Ms. Ventura and two unidentified women into sex with him and male prostitutes in events known as freak-offs. In opening statements, Assistant U.S.

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Attorney Emily Johnson telling the jury, quote, you are going to hear about 20 years of the defendant's crimes. But he didn't do it alone. He had an inner circle of bodyguards and high-ranking employees who helped him commit crimes and cover them up. They've already put on witness testimony from a male sex worker talking about how Sean Combs paid him to have sex with Cassie.

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The Fed's outlining instances of alleged violence against the women in graphic detail Prosecutors will show security footage of Mr. Combs throwing Ms. Ventura onto the floor of the Hotel Intercontinental in a public hallway, kicking her and violently dragging her. Defense lawyers arguing Mr. Combs' sexual habits were consensual and part of a swinger lifestyle.

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Defense attorney Tenny Garagos, daughter of famed attorney Mark Garagos, telling the jury, quote, They will testify about things that should never be heard in a federal courtroom that he liked to watch. You may not like that, but you are not here to judge him for his sexual preferences. The defense saying it's not a crime to use baby oil, imploring the jury to keep an open mind. Ms.

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Ventura, now the star witness of the criminal case against Mr. Combs, taking the stand on Tuesday, describing various graphic sexual encounters, at times in tears. Ms. Ventura describing physical abuse, quote, He would knock me over, drag me, kick me, stomp me in the head, telling prosecutors there were no conversations about her preferences during these freak-offs.

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The trial is expected to last 8 to 10 weeks. President Trump delivering keynote remarks at the Saudi U.S. Investment Forum following a day of high-level meetings and royal pageantry with Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman and senior Saudi officials. the conference bringing together global business and political leaders to spur investment and cooperation between U.S. and Middle Eastern nations.

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President Trump striking an optimistic tone, outlining a prosperous vision for the Middle East built on economic cooperation.

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The president setting his administration apart from past U.S. Middle East policy.

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I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. In episode three of our special series, Megyn Kelly investigates on the disappearance of baby Lisa. Nearly 13 years ago in Kansas City, Missouri, Lisa Irwin, a 10-month-old baby girl, vanished in the middle of the night. What could have possibly happened to her? One man emerges who might have some answers.

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Does he look disheveled? Is he a good looking man? What is he? How would you describe?

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Samantha, you may remember, was drinking with Deborah on Deborah's front stoop the night baby Lisa went missing. Brando was investigated and ultimately ruled out. That left John Jersey Tanko, the handyman with a history of drug abuse, arson, and break-ins, who was working nearby. As we learned in our last episode, he had an ex-girlfriend who he may have believed wanted a baby.

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He was cautious, I think, as he should have been. But Cindy says he was forthcoming and emotional about his troubled childhood.

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This is extraordinary. The three cell phones went missing from baby Lisa's house on the night she was taken. And now he's telling you. And there's the reason we know his name to begin with is, yes, neighbors had said he was in the area as kind of a sketchy character. But the reason we know his name is because we have a phone bill that shows one of the Irwin's three cell phones called Lisa.

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Megan Wright. Yes. And so once again, it's a link potentially back to Jersey. And now he's telling you they never found the cell phones. He's telling you he found them.

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So he's saying... There we are having some car trouble. Get out of the car and boom, three cell phones. And I was just guessing that these belong to Deborah and Jeremy. Does he offer any reason why he knows it's those phones?

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But keep in mind Jersey's drug use and his rap sheet. How reliable was he? Was he playing games with Cindy? Trying to get information from her to see what she and investigators knew? It's extraordinary that in his time with you, he volunteered that he spent time with these cell phones.

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Her name is Megan Wright. Was Tanko trying to bring Megan a baby in the hopes of getting back together? And now we turn to perhaps the most crucial clue in this case. Remember those three cell phones on the Irwin's kitchen counter taken the night that Lisa was? Two of them had restrictions for nonpayment. But right near midnight, there was an attempted phone call from the one phone that worked.

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That even he seems to be suggesting are related to the case. Yeah. I think Phil Houston would say, that's a liar who doesn't know what you know about what connections he has, admitting- Just so much just to see, you know, but leaving himself escape routes. Right. So maybe he could get some more information from you or just in case you knew more than he thought you did. Right. Right.

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That must have been chilling. I mean, was that chilling, Cindy, when he admitted that? Yes. I take it that was the most shocking revelation that he copped to finding three mysterious cell phones. Yes. Shortly after baby Lisa went missing. How close in time? It was right in that timeframe. It was right when it happened.

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But yet didn't want to give you the timeline on what he did the night she went missing, thinking that wasn't going to land in a good place. Because she was building trust, still hoping for a confession, and because she had also offered to represent him, Cindy maintained client-attorney confidentiality and did not bring this new information to police or to the new legal team representing Deborah.

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John Passerno replaced Cindy as Joe Takapina's local counsel. According to him, those three phones have never been found.

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Missy Rasmussen and Jackie Heller are Kansas City moms who are co-authoring a book about this case. You know, there's been speculation that the phones maybe were discarded by the real kidnapper and then just found by somebody who then called that number. How do you gals like that theory?

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To this day, it's an open question. Why does a one-step-above homeless guy steal a baby? It's not like there's some known black market for babies that, I mean, that would be something so sophisticated to get your foot into. He wouldn't have that, right? So it's to what end? Again, reporter Jim Spellman.

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Cindy Short keeps coming back to her time with Jersey. When they talked about his childhood, he told her he was put in a boy's home at age 10 and was later institutionalized to deal, he said, with his pyromania and impulse control problems.

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I'm joined now by my partners in crime, if you will, longtime CIA interrogator and human lie detector, Phil Houston, and ex-MYPD and security expert, Bill Stanton. All right, guys, let's talk about Cindy Short. We were just almost there, she said. This information about a jailhouse meeting with John Tanko is incredible, no?

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It was to a cell phone that was less than a mile away, and it lasted 50 seconds. So what did the cops say to you about that piece of evidence? Lisa's father, Jeremy Irwin.

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Moving on to the call to Megan Wright's phone. This is critical. Phelan Bell, you watched my entire interview with Megan Wright. It went on for much longer than the excerpts that we've put in this series. She's had a hard life. She was very emotional throughout the two hours. Here she is talking about losing custody of her child.

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How do you feel about it now, looking back at the way you were taking care of him?

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He was underweight? Is that what it was? He was underweight, severely.

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She was very emotional right from the start. And I was moved by it. It seemed like real emotion to me.

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So what does that tell you? I mean, I know the obvious, well, that she's lying, but I mean, why?

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I mean, and that's our best lead. Law enforcement went right to work on tracing that call. It went to a phone that belonged to Megan Wright. Yes, the same Megan Wright who had recently split up with Jersey, a.k.a. John Tanko.

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But do you, having listened to it, Phil, do you have a takeaway on whether she was the phone holder that night?

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You're going like full bore against her. So under your theory is she wanted the baby. She was in on the baby plot. She gave the phone to somebody else so that it wouldn't be on her. And she intentionally went to Waffle House, Walmart, so she wouldn't be near any.

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Okay, but I'll defend her. I'm going to defend her. You're already unstable. You're on drugs. Your family doesn't want anything to do with you. You were in a domestic violence shelter, you know, from some jerk in your life. Now you're with this other jerk who you've broken up with, who's stalking you. You're you're traumatized. There was a lot that morning.

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At least she found out that the FBI was calling her and she's worried. I don't know. She's worried. So could that be, you know, like I said, scared straight.

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She lives in a drug house. None of these people wants to voluntarily bring law enforcement into their lives. What does she gain by telling us falsely that the FBI called her when they didn't call her? I don't see it. See, there you go. I've rehabilitated her on one of your key points, Phil.

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I feel bad. I don't want Megan Wright to be completely bashed here without a defense because I thought it was very courageous for her to sit across from somebody like me who, even though I'm sympathetic to everything she's gone through, she knows I'm not an easy interviewer. She's not a dope.

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How confident are you? Because like, I'll say this. I love you, Phil. But like, are you too biased against Megan Wright and in favor of Debra?

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I mean, I know you're a genius, but I still have sympathies for her.

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How much contact did you have with Jersey on the day or the evening that baby Lisa went missing? Megan Wright.

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I knew it. I said that to Cindy Short. I said Phil Houston's going to say he was admitting just enough to cover something he did, but not the whole thing. Yeah. John Jersey Tanko was questioned by the police at the time. He denies any involvement and the case remains open. Coming up in our next episode, new theories emerge about the disappearance that take the story in a completely new direction.

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We'll see you tomorrow for episode four. But first, if you're watching right now, please take a look at this picture of Lisa as she might look now. If you're listening, you can see the photo on YouTube or just go to megankelly.com. If you see her or think you might have any information that can help find her, please write to me. The address is megan, M-E-G-Y-N, at megankelly.com.

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You can also pass along tips on the baby Lisa story to the Kansas City Police Department or encourage them to get active on this case. That would be very helpful. Reach out at kccrimestoppers.com, kccrimestoppers.com, or call them at 816-474-7000. Tips, T-I-P-S, that's 816-474-8477.

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Megan was 20 at that time and had moved to Kansas City earlier that year. She told us she had been in an abusive relationship, left it, lived for a time at a domestic violence shelter, and after that was moving from group home to group home, temporary living situations. She says she met Tanko at one of them.

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that I never saw coming for myself. By the time of Lisa's disappearance, Megan had become a full-on methamphetamine addict and was trying to stay away from Tanko. The very last time she saw him, Megan says Tanko scared her.

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Megan moved to a house on 44th and Brighton, a little over a mile away from the Irwin house.

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By her account, it was a trap house, a drug den. And her contribution to the household was to let people use her phone.

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Why would anyone involved in the disappearance of baby Lisa call your cell phone the night baby Lisa went missing?

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On the night Lisa went missing, October 3rd, Megan says she left her phone on an upstairs table.

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Okay. And you left that house, but you left your cell phone behind at the drug house.

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At that time, Megan says she was told that Dane Greathouse, a man staying in her same house that night, had her phone. And describe Dane for us.

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A month after Lisa went missing, Dane had a text exchange with a Kansas City TV reporter and denied any connection with Megan Wright or the missing child. But he did say that he had used her phone.

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When our producer talked with him, Great House said he did not really know Megan Wright, but did confirm that they both stayed at the same house for a few nights, the house on 44th and Brighton. Great House said Megan did indeed share her phone with everyone there, and he told us he used her phone three times to make calls, but says he never once answered it.

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Megan Wright tells us that terrible night for the Irwins was a big turning point in her life, too. She says the very next morning, she began to get her act together.

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About a week later, she says, the FBI brought her in for questioning.

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And once they were done asking her about her own possible involvement, they grilled her about her ex, Tanko.

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Okay. And do you have any reason to believe he stopped using meth at any point in 2011?

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Were you thinking, you know, this guy's kind of crazy? Could have been him.

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That's donewithdebt.com. Here's where we are. After a $100,000 reward was posted and the widespread pursuit of an unknown man walking with a baby, two people of interest emerged. James Brando, who lived next door to Deborah Bradley and Jeremy Irwin, and who had split up with his wife, Samantha, earlier that day.

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The phones and the phone use continued to be a mystery. At 3.17 a.m., one of the phones tried to access voicemail. Now, why would that be? Five minutes later, at 3.22 a.m., there was an attempt to use the phone's web browser. As I reported for Fox News back then, Debra's attorney said there were

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five attempts made to get online via the phone, and the phones never got more than a third of a mile away from the house on North Lister. And remember this from our last episode. If it really was the same man with a baby that the Parscals and Mike Thompson saw that night, he would have spent nearly four hours within a three-mile radius of baby Lisa's home.

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You would think, okay, let's see who's on the other end of that number. And that was Megan Wright's phone. So, okay, boom, we're off to the races. Megan Wright knows the abductor. Not that simple. Reporter Jim Spellman.

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You spoke with her a lot. Do you believe her claims that she did not have the phone when that number was dialed and that she had nothing to do with this?

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Meanwhile, Kansas City attorney Cindy Short was working hard to find answers, even after she was off the legal team. After 10 days, she says she and lead attorney Joe Takapina parted company in a dispute over strategy. But Cindy continued to look for Tanko. And now she's going to tell us something she has never before shared publicly. And it's fascinating.

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A day or two after she left the case, Cindy found John Tanko in the Clay County Jail north of Kansas City, and she interviewed him for 10 hours over a two-day period. What he told her could change the entire trajectory of this investigation. Set the scene for us. Like, was it hard? Did he come right out to talk to you?

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Forbes reporting the avian flu outbreak began in February 2022. Since then, an estimated 166 million chickens have been culled under USDA policy. The administration's plan increases funding for biosecurity measures to prevent further spread of the flu and increases funding to replace lost chicken populations, among other measures.

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The increasing cost of eggs, a major focus for Democrats and the media since January 20th.

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Americans are struggling when it comes to the cost of eggs. After months of breathless reporting on high prices, the sudden decline doesn't seem to interest the media or Democrats. Go figure. And that'll do it for your AM Update. I'm Megyn Kelly.

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Join me back here all week for our special series, Megyn Kelly Investigates, on the disappearance of baby Lisa Irwin, a 10-month-old girl who disappeared from her crib in the dark of night. It will air on SiriusXM Triumph Channel 111 at noon east, on youtube.com slash Megyn Kelly, and on all podcast platforms on the Megyn Kelly Show feed.

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The bill passing Tuesday evening on a nearly party line vote, 217 to 213. Kentucky Congressman Thomas Massey following through on his promise to vote against the bill. In response, President Trump calling to primary Congressman Massey, a move receiving mixed reactions on the right.

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Speaker Johnson on Tuesday saying he is in the business of defending the incumbent despite his disagreement with Mr. Massey on the CR. The bill now moves to the Senate, where it faces complete Democrat opposition. It does require 60 votes to pass. Republicans only account for 52 yes votes, as Kentucky Senator Rand Paul, a Republican, says he is also a no. The deadline is 11.59 p.m. on Friday.

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Canada backs down in the tariff standoff as Ontario's leader cancels a planned retaliatory measure. This after President Trump's threat to double tariffs on steel and aluminum.

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Ontario premier, which is like a governor, Doug Ford, backing down almost immediately on a 25% electricity surcharge on roughly 1.5 million residents of New York, Michigan, and Minnesota. On Tuesday morning, Mr. Ford played tough, slapping on the surcharge in response to Mr. Trump's 25% tariff on Canada, meant to encourage a crackdown on fentanyl.

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Mr. Ford saying Americans needed to, quote, feel the pain.

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In response to Mr. Ford's threats, President Trump announcing he would increase aluminum and steel tariffs on Canada to $1. 50%. Within a matter of hours, Mr. Ford backed down, reversing the surcharge, saying he will meet with Secretary of Commerce Howard Lutnick on Thursday in Washington to further discuss tariffs and trade. Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt addressing the matter on Tuesday.

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Markets struggling under the tariff turf wars. The Dow Jones closing Tuesday with a 1.1% drop. The S&P 500 with a 0.8% decline. And the Nasdaq with a 0.2% fall. Each of the three indices marking their worst two-day drop since August. Ms. Leavitt responding to concerns.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Wednesday, March 12th, 2025, and this is your AM Update.

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In the first Trump administration, success was measured by markets. This time around, the president urging Americans to be patient as he says the short-term suffering will be worth the long-term gains. Despite generally negative attitudes in the media, the Trump tariffs on Canada and Mexico are making inroads toward the president's goal of reducing fentanyl trafficking into the U.S.

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A crucial step in the peace process, Ukraine agrees to a ceasefire. Now it's up to the Russians to take the next step toward peace. The left erupts over the deportation of Columbia University agitator Mahmoud Khalil, and President Trump goes car shopping. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update. These days, personal safety is not something that can be left to chance.

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Just ask the New York Times. Yes, the New York Times is the daily podcast embedding with Mexican fentanyl producers to report on the impact of increased government enforcement efforts.

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Unlike heroin made from poppies and cocaine made from cocoa leaves, fentanyl is a fully synthetic drug made from chemicals. Producing the drug is relatively easy and labs can be set up almost anywhere, which is why, up until now, it has been such a lucrative option for cartels.

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President Scheinbaum ramping up police activity, making hundreds of arrests throughout Mexico, including of senior cartel officers. The Daily reporting genuine fear among higher level cartel members.

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Fentanyl is the leading cause of drug overdoses in America. More than 450,000 Americans have died of synthetic opioid overdoses in the last 10 years. While that number is on a year-to-year decline, last year synthetic opioids like fentanyl claimed 55,126 American lives, according to the CDC.

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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Tuesday announcing a major update on negotiations with the Ukrainians toward a peace deal.

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This marks a dramatic shift for the Ukrainians who previously resisted a ceasefire until the U.S. was willing to provide security guarantees. Kyiv agrees to a 30-day ceasefire, and in exchange, the U.S. will lift the pause on sharing military and intelligence aid with Ukraine.

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CBS News reporting the unfrozen military aid includes about $1 billion in equipment approved under the Biden administration. The agreement also says Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and President Trump will sign the minerals deal as soon as possible. President Trump responding optimistically Tuesday afternoon.

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Special Envoy Steve Witkoff will be traveling to Russia to present the deal to the Kremlin. A hearing set today in the deportation case of former Columbia University student and campus agitator Mahmoud Khalil. Mr. Khalil arrested by ICE on Saturday afternoon after his green card was revoked. His deportation paused by a federal judge pending a further hearing.

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The arrest igniting a firestorm on the left and some on the right even questioning it, framing it as a free speech issue with Mr. Khalil, the victim of an authoritarian regime.

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Mr. Khalil, currently held in a Louisiana detention facility, Cornell immigration law professor Jacqueline Kelly Widmer tells the AP, green card holders do not need to be convicted of something to be removable when the offending action relates to terrorism.

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The White House stating the decision was made following this man's role in organizing last year's violent and disruptive anti-Israel protests at Columbia.

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The New York Post reporting Mr. Khalil was born in Syria in 1995 and briefly served as a political affairs officer with the U.N. 's Relief and Works Agency for Palestinian refugees. Multiple reports in 2024 revealed ties between that group and Hamas, a group the U.S. recognizes as a terrorist organization, ultimately leading the Biden administration to cut funding for this U.N. group.

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As a Columbia student, Mr. Kalil served as a student negotiator for the Columbia University Apartheid Divest Group. The New York Post reports that group, quote, sympathizes with terror groups like Hamas and Hezbollah and calls for the end of Western civilization, end quote. The Columbia Group's public Instagram showing hundreds of images calling for disruptive student actions.

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Dozens of photos showing men and women donning Palestinian keffiyehs. A cartoon image of a young black child throwing a Molotov cocktail. Captioned, resist all colonial powers, resist white supremacy. Another advertising a protesting skills seminar. One advertising a vigil titled, all martyrs have a name.

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The Trump administration has vowed to crack down on illegal protesting, saying Mr. Khalil is just the first of many to come.

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The Trump administration has already cut $400 million in funding to the university. Coming up, President Trump goes car shopping and the media is suspiciously silent on one of their recent favorite subjects, egg prices. One in two adults have high blood pressure. Many don't even know it. That's a ticking time bomb. But here's the good news.

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120 Life can help take control of your life and your health today. Four Tesla Cybertrucks Torched in Seattle. The suspect and motive not yet identified, though it follows a similar pattern across the country of attacks against Elon Musk's electric car company.

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In North Charleston last week, a masked vandal spray-painted F. Trump, Long Live Ukraine near Tesla charging stations before launching Molotov cocktails at the station. The local NBC outlet reporting witnesses say the suspect caught his own back on fire while fleeing the scene.

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In Manhattan, protesters gathered outside a Tesla showroom in the swanky West Village, chanting against Elon Musk's involvement with Doge and the Trump administration. These incidents, just a few examples of similar disturbances and disruptions against Tesla locations in recent weeks. President Trump backing Elon Musk on Tuesday with the purchase of a brand new Tesla.

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Despite increasing competition, Tesla leads the U.S. electric vehicle market with approximately 49% of sales. In second place, Ford, at just 8% of recent sales. Egg prices making like Humpty Dumpty and having a great fall. Average prices falling by nearly $2 a dozen, now cheaper than when President Trump took office.

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Egg prices have been steadily rising over the past several years due to increasing inflation and widespread outbreaks of avian flu. Under the Biden administration, prices increased by 22% and kept rising under President Trump. The drop in prices coming two weeks after Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins announced a $1 billion investment aimed at reducing egg costs.

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And just days after the DOJ launched an investigation into egg producers for alleged price fixing and market manipulation. Secretary Rollins telling Fox Business the work is just getting started.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. Tulsi Gabbard has been confirmed as the new Director of National Intelligence. The vote was 52 to 48. How about that? It was basically a straight party line vote with Senator Mitch McConnell voting no, like he did with Pete Hegseth.

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Yeah, well, we've got to put our chips on the appellate courts because thank God, you know, we on the sign of sanity control the Supreme Court. There's a 6-3 majority for the conservatives. And I think the appellate courts will see the reason here, too. I mean, it's just this is activists for this judge to do this.

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Here's Trump commenting yesterday at that presser with Musk on these judges trying to stop his EO's.

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And the thing is, as you know, Biden, while he was vegetable-like in his outward-facing persona, behind the scenes, he had very woke left-wing operatives shoving their DEI agenda into every facet of the federal government. All the agencies creating grants and incentives to people they didn't control and outside groups. And now Trump is trying... to dismantle that.

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And now he's getting sued saying that it's been allocated. They were given this money and funds were allocated. It's like he doesn't have to spend all this money on the exact program that Biden pushed. It's money for DOE. If Trump doesn't want money at DOE being spent on DEI, he doesn't have to spend it. To the point where when I'm talking about this Vivek Murthy thing,

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those who harassed people like RFKJ and Tulsi into, you will adopt all of my policy positions or I won't vote yes on you. You're not the president. It's annoying. All right, anyway, she got through. That's the important thing. Great. That's amazing. Thank goodness. Things are going to change. They're going to change within the intelligence services and the coordination of Intel.

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It's a group called Doctors for America. And here's what they're complaining about. This is a couple of web pages that they took down in the wake of Trump's anti-DEI executive orders. A web page for the Youth Risk Behavioral Surveillance System. I don't know what was on this page that Trump's team wrote.

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found objectionable, but it was probably something to do with gender or, you know, minority, whatever, everything is seen through that lens. So Murthy's team comes in and says, "'Information from these webpages is important for understanding the mental health challenges that youth face, including bullying and other safety issues at school.'"

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And then they say, as well as the health-related behaviors and exposures such as electronic vaping and cigarettes and their potential effect on mortality. You've got to be kidding me. We now need a judge saying, I guess health professionals are not going to understand the negative effects of cigarettes or vaping unless Trump puts back up this one page that also had DEI stuff on it.

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These doctors can't wing it. on the dangers of cigarettes and vaping. And the second page was the Environmental Justice Index. The complaint was they delivered information that delivers a single rank for each community to identify and map areas most at risk for the health impacts of environmental burden. Their left-wing Green New Deal agenda is no longer on the federal government's health pages.

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And these doctors are trying to act like this is some sort of a health crisis because now, where are we going to know the worst risks are for the health impacts of the environmental burden that we've been making up for 20 years?

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Plus, you know as well as I do, this is their favorite thing, is to force us to say and read their words. You will read my thoughts on the environmental catastrophe that we're facing. You will read my thoughts on DEI and gender. And it doesn't matter if I shoved them on some page that also speaks about cigarettes and vaping.

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The whole page must be saved because I need you and everyone to read my thoughts on gender. That's what they're pissed about. They're starting to lose the war on language control.

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And maybe we won't be so quick to say things like WMD and have 51 intelligence agencies or agents, former officials cooperating with the agencies to undermine a presidential candidate. We need change. I mean, literally just today in the news, there is a story about how you remember how I told you there was a there was a Department of Homeland Security raid.

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Yeah, it's the same way they make us call he's she's so that we're in the position of saying she can't come into the women's locker room. She can't come into the bathroom and undermine our argument right from the get go. It's it's all part of the same game.

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Okay, so that leads me to, I make it back to Elon in a bit, but I've got, this is a great segue into what's happening in Worcester, Massachusetts. Now, we know Massachusetts is liberal, right? But they used to be not so far left that they wouldn't elect a Republican governor. Remember those days? Or even a Republican senator. Remember Scott Brown back in the Bush years?

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Now they've just gone around the bend. And Worcester Mass voted yesterday to make their city a sanctuary city for trans people, meaning they're not going to comply with any of President Trump's mandates, EOs. I mean, good luck. This is flouting the law. And we'll see how that works out for you. But I just I would love for you to take a look at this.

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There was an ICE raid by Tom Homan in Colorado on one of those apartment complexes where Trend Agua has been hanging out. This Venezuelan disgusting gang. And he showed up and they were gone. Every every apartment was empty where it had been full the day before. He was about to deport these people. criminal gang members from Venezuela, all gone suddenly.

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What the people look like and how they sound in Worcester Mass, where this resolution to make Worcester Mass a sanctuary city for trans people passed overwhelmingly because of testimonials like these.

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It worked. The narcolepsy and the autism and some sort of syndrome that gives nerve pain, and it's hard to put the glitter on in the morning. And the one guy who is clearly a man wearing a beanie, but his hair is long. Later, he's like, I constantly get misgendered. Are you even trying to look female? This is not a well group, but...

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They are still winning in places like Worcester, Mass., which is just a little like a microcosm of explanation on how these insane policies got shoved into these agencies to begin with, Adam.

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Yeah, I'm really hoping they all just stay in Worcester. Great. Take them. Terrific. By the way, it's not just Worcester. There's one in Sacramento, California, one of these sanctuary cities for trans people. Ithaca, New York, not far from my own people. Upstate New York, courtesy to ALX on Twitter, or X for that montage. He...

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he got his hands, he got an access code and listened to that whole hearing. And what was a gift to us all by showing us what's happening there. These are not well people. I mean, in on this council, there's one person who's their first openly non-binary member ever elected to city council, uh, in 2022. And, um, This person has already stopped showing up at the meetings saying they're transphobic.

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So there was a leak that Tom Homan and ICE were showing up. And guess what Homan told Hannity last night? They think it was the FBI. They think the FBI was the one. We need serious overhaul at these organizations. That's why people don't give two shits what Kash Patel said about the FBI needs to be made into a museum that people of the deep state.

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This city council that just voted 9-2 in favor of those lunatics who paraded in front of them, they don't want to show up, this non-binary member, because they think it's a transphobic... group. They didn't like the pronouns. They said one council member called this person it several times. I mean, I, in, in that council members defense, it's very confusing.

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No one knows what to call most of these people. Normally the listening audience knows I'll describe to you what we're seeing on the screen. So you can have the visuals in your head. That's impossible. You, you have to just go to YouTube, go to, you know, 28 after the hour, and you look for yourself at the parade of horribles that just showed up in that, but it's not, you know,

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We have to forge on without these people. All these pages should be scrubbed. This ideology should be snuffed out. We should stop pretending that it's real for these children.

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It's amazing to me that we still have people pretending this is an actual thing and we need to cater to the woman with the narcolepsy and the autism spectrum and the whatever nerve disease and the one worried about putting glitter on... their face, whatever. It was, it seemed like a woman with a beard and glitter. Why aren't we already just forging on without them? Or are we?

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Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Okay, so this brings me to a group. It's a government union called the American Federation of Government Employees. And they are very upset about Doge and these cuts to federal spending, whether it's in the form of invited retirements, early retirements, or spending cuts. And they... I mean...

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They might as well have just gone directly to Worcester, Mass., and recruited from that collection for their little rally. You never would have known the difference. Here they were trying to rally their troops to march against Elon and Trump. Take a look at these folks in Sat 9.

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Right, we're sick of this partisan bullshit in our agencies that are supposed to be enacting the will of the people, the will in this case of the people's president, Donald Trump. Tom Homan said last night, someone's going to jail. This is beyond losing your cushy post at the FBI. Someone who is going behind bars, they will figure it out. They will. And I can't wait to find out who it is.

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Oh, I've got to show you. I've got to show you this woman, Congresswoman Maxine Dexter, a Democrat from Oregon who was at the rally where they were singing. Speaking of...

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I have one more montage to show you. And it's got swearing to your point. Look at this.

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We have to fuck Trump and be on your asses. And Elon Musk needs to bring his ass over. I'm sensing a theme, sensing a theme here.

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That's almost treasonous what that person has done. I'm delighted that that agency is about to be in the hands of Kash Patel. It's great. And that you've got, you know, Tom Homan and Kristi Noem. She said the same. She said, we think it was the FBI. How corrupt is this organization? So you've got Kristi Noem, you've got Tom Homan, you've got Kash Patel, you've got Pam Bondi.

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Contrast that with Elon Musk, OK, who had that presser yesterday was just like methodically going through the issues that he was discovering. He and his team. Here he is on why the Treasury Department just pays. They just pay everything, even if it's a suspect bill with our money. Watch.

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Yeah. I mean, and it tends to lead most people to be happy. Most people I know that seem very dumb seem happy because they don't really know what they're missing. These people are miserable. They have the worst combination, dumb and unhappy and bitter and mean. That's not a good combo.

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And speaking of dumb, unhappy, bitter, and mean, I wanted to touch base on Gavin Newsom because what's happened out in California where you live now is we saw the administrator for the local, like,

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You know, parks and rebuilding say it's going to take a minimum of 18 months to clear the burned houses and comply with EPA and do what they need to do to sort of rectify this this site so that building can start again. And Trump said, absolutely not. That's too long. And issued an executive order.

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All of them are going to work together to stop this nonsense, to put a stop to this because the DOJ oversees the FBI. Okay, that's that. Meanwhile, the big news of the day yesterday. was when Doge Chief, also, you know, 40 billionaire. I don't know, when you have 40 billion, are you a 40 billionaire? What are you?

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compelling the Department of Defense and EPA and others to get in there and work to rectify this thing, to make it go much faster. And lo and behold, it's working. Now, in the wake of this, let's see, it's called expediting waste removal. His executive order on January 24th not only provides water resources, but improves the disaster response.

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Secretary of Homeland Security was the other group, and FEMA. saying, get in there, develop a plan to expedite the bulk removal of contaminated and general debris. Can't be waiting a year and a half for that to happen. LA Times recently reports it's working. They say federal agencies have tripled the number of hazardous materials teams heading out to the Palisades and Eaton Burn areas.

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They also laid plans for having the EPA and Army Corps of Engineers work simultaneously on different parts of the same site as part of the effort to speed things up. By midweek, L.A. County officials were offering a more accelerated debris removal timeline. EPA's phase one started at projected three months. It's now shortened to 30 days.

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The one Republican supervisor on the committee out there said President Trump doesn't mess around and gave him credit for it. And now... You've got Gavin Newsom taking a victory lap, saying this is the fastest large-scale debris removal operation in modern state history. The speed of this cleanup is unprecedented. We're cutting through the red tape to ensure this recovery moves at a record pace.

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Elon Musk stopped by the Oval Office yesterday, along with his adorable son, X, who's only four years old. He loves that letter, X, loves it. He's only four. And with President Trump sitting by his side, Elon held court with the media in a newsy, casual, impromptu presser. It was a remarkable moment.

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Wow. And that's with the EEO and the additional federal response. Well, Gavin Newsom is ready to spike the ball and take credit on all of it. In the minute we have left, how's your time going on Dr. Drew's couch with what you describe as your little bathrobe?

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Do you guys watch TV together at night? Do you do like Real Housewives marathons? What do you do?

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That's amazing. He's a good friend. So is Garagos. I'm glad your house didn't burn. I realize it's not that much of a consolation when it's completely covered in smoke and not habitable. So Godspeed. Thanks for being here, Adam. All the best.

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We're coming up next with Anna Kasparian. Don't miss her. The IRS is the largest collection agency in the world, and it just stepped up enforcement for 2024, 2025. Oh, joy. If you owe back taxes or you have unfiled returns, Don't panic and don't wait for the IRS to come to you. Simply avoiding your tax troubles is the worst thing you can do.

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call 1-800-905-8000 or visit tnusa.com slash Megan. That's tnusa.com slash M-E-G-Y-N. I just want to give you a quick update on two things that have happened. This is just breaking. Three more people have been released from Belarus. Just trying to get my arms around the news right here. One is a U.S. citizen who wants to remain private. Two are non-Americans, including a Radio Liberty journalist.

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And the left is predictably melting down over every chance they have to drive a wedge between Elon and Trump. The other day I said I'd show you the Time magazine cover. Then I forgot to. Maybe we can pull it over, you guys. But, you know, Time magazine this week, it's got... Elon at the Oval, in the Oval at the Resolute Desk. It's, you know, he's the real president.

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So here we have... At least one U.S. citizen now released from Belarus, most of whom most of us didn't even know that there was an American citizen being held in Belarus. And this is on the heels of another U.S. citizen being released by Russia. His name is Mark Fogel. Thanks to the work of Donald Trump. He was over there teaching the children of diplomats and had been there for quite some time.

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We will have more on that tomorrow with our pals from Ruthless. But she's through. That's incredible. That was a tough one. I mean, as you know, I went to that confirmation hearing, part of it, and my God, they were all so negative on her. It's like they didn't want to try something new. Notwithstanding Trump's

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And he got arrested because he had marijuana, which he said he uses for medical purposes. He had 17 grams of marijuana. That actually led me to look up on my phone, how much is 17 grams of marijuana? You know me, I don't know anything about these drugs. But I did look up how much is 17 grams of marijuana. And 14 grams is a half ounce. And it looks like this.

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I don't know if you can see this on my phone. but it looks like basically a bowl of lettuce that you might put in a salad, maybe enough for two people to have a salad. And they say that 14 ounces is worth, could basically get you 28 joints.

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Now, this guy was using it, he says, for medicinal purposes, but the Russians, as they have been known to do, decided to say that he was going to distribute it. He was basically there in Russia to become some sort of a drug dealer with what could turn into 28 joints. I mean, it wasn't going to be a very lengthy career. I think he'd been over there some 15 years.

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So they took this guy, this American citizen, Mark Vogel, they put him behind bars and the Biden administration completely forgot about this guy. They completely they didn't even designate him with a special sort of status that would demand that we look into what's happening to him and start bargaining for his return. They just kind of pretended that Mark Vogel

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didn't exist, um, from the point he got arrested. Meantime, after he was arrested in August, 2022, they negotiated for the, um, that first they designated Brittany Grimer, that Griner, that, that basketball player is illegal detained. They didn't do it for Fogel. And then they went on to negotiate for Brittany's release, but they didn't do that for this guy Fogel. A bipartisan group of U.S.

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senators lobbied the State Department to change his status so that he would be more likely to qualify for a negotiated release. Biden wouldn't. It's been really strange how this guy's been completely left behind. Then this guy Fogel's mom, Malfeen Fogel, age 95, showed up at the Pennsylvania campaign rally where Trump was nearly assassinated.

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And she told the New York Post that she explained to Trump that her son was in a Russian jail for the same crime Brittany Griner committed. Griner was in jail for 10 months before President Biden got her out. She said, my son's been there for three years and I haven't heard from President Biden or from anyone in Washington. Mr. Trump told me if I get in, I will get him out and gave me a thumbs up.

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Obviously, they're just trying to irritate Trump and poke at Trump's ego. You know, you're weak. You need Elon. You can't do it yourself. You're too old or infirm. Guess again. Trump is too smart to fall for your petty games. He knows that Elon is a great asset. He has working for him. There's no confusion between the two men on who is top dog.

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He was very cordial and sincere. And finally, in August of 2024, National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan described Fogle as wrongfully detained. That was the first they'd ever done that, putting him back like on the block for negotiations. It's just ridiculous.

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And still remember that prisoner swap in August of 2024 when Joe Biden and Kamala Harris showed up and it was like, who's trying to take credit for this? What's happening? He was not negotiated for, and he was not part of that prisoner swap. It's where we got the wall street journal reporter, uh, Evan Gershkovitz back. Nope. Left this guy Fogle behind. And guess what?

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Trump's been in office for three weeks and he got him. He got him back. It's amazing. Here's the video of him greeting Mark Fogle at the white house yesterday. Wow. Well, here he is outside of Air Force One. So his mom is thrilled. Malfean Fogle said thank you to Fox via an interview. Here's the proper video. She said thank you to Trump on an interview with Fox yesterday.

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Amazing. And here, look at this extraordinary tape. Here is Mark Fogle in the White House. This guy didn't even know that he was about to get released. 24 hours later, he's with the president in the White House. And here's what he had to say.

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Wow. And he did. And now another American still anonymous as of now out of Belarus. I mean, this is amazing. Trump is on a roll folks. We'll see if he gets any credit, uh, from the left for the, here he is kissing the ground when he got off the plane. If he gets any credit for this from the left, I will say credit where it's due. John Fetterman praised him.

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The guy Fogel's from Pennsylvania, sort of Josh Shapiro didn't exactly praise Trump, but said, thank you to those at the white house who made his release possible. And, And, um, president Obama's former Russian ambassador, Michael McFaul, he praised Trump directly. And I mean, it was explicit praise be to president Donald Trump, not a phrase I get to say very often.

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I, I give him a lot of credit for doing it. Um, I want to talk to Anna Kasparian now. She is host and executive producer of the young Turks, and she's editor of the unaligned substack been on the program once before. And I welcome back What do you make of this? I mean, it's amazing to see these Americans all but forgotten, slowly but surely returning home.

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It does make you wonder why why didn't we try harder under Joe Biden? You know, like what what was the problem? You know, because we had Rick Grinnell just got six Americans back home. Belarus now releasing one. Russia releasing Mark Fogel. American hostages being held by Hamas. Like, was it just a lack of caring? It was like this is how happening literally hasn't even been in office a month.

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And I don't think these petty tactics are going to work on Donald Trump. He's overcome a lot. I'm sure he can overcome a Time magazine cover and leftist media trying to press his buttons about why we're seeing so much of Elon. Do you think Trump really wants to be the one to go in and run Doge and like be a number cruncher on what's happening at these federal agencies?

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Yeah. I'm not familiar with the case to which you referred, but there's no question, despite our closeness with Israel, when the IDF behaves terribly, they should be held to account and they shouldn't be in some special category where they're incapable of being criticized. That's not what friendship is. We're talking about an American citizen. That comes first.

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What they're saying about Fogel is that We did do a prisoner swap for him. We gave up some, I don't know, alleged, I don't know, I can't remember if it was an arms dealer. It wasn't a great guy. He was in prison over here from Russia. But what is it, Deb? Sorry. Cyber crime? Oh, cyber crime. All right, so that's not great, but maybe not as bad as arms dealer.

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And these things are always, they always require that kind of a thing. You know, it's like, look, one and one, that's pretty good if you compare to like what's happening with Palestine and Israel right now, where they have to release like hundreds to get like two Americans out. I just feel like none of this stuff was ever held against Joe Biden. You never heard about it in the media.

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This isn't the kind of thing that the media gives two shits about and that they're not gonna give Trump any credit for. And it's just my, I guess, relatively minor example of his dealmaking, which they kind of mock a lot in the press, but it really, it can be very effective.

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Or do you think he might actually be delighted to be delegating some of that stuff to someone as smart as Elon and someone as proven when it comes to eliminating unnecessary fat from organizations as Elon. Really, they're very upset about Elon. The left, the politicians, very upset about Elon and what he's doing, and we'll get to all of it.

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Totally agree. And on that score, I'm going to ask you what you think Trump's doing well and what he's doing poorly in one second. But I just want to make one other point about Mark Fogle. He was apparently very depressed. He was sentenced to 15 years in a Russian prison for this 17 grams.

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And when he wasn't part of the prisoner swap that Biden was part of in August of 2024, the Daily Wire obtained the audio tape of him talking about how his sole purpose was dead. He said, my soul is dead. He said, I'm in a bottomless pit that keeps getting worse. And Michael McFaul, former Russia, Russia ambassador under Obama too, was saying he wasn't doing well. He was very depressed.

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He was not handling his circumstances well. So I don't even know how close this guy was to the end of his life. Potentially he had two kids. He has a wife. He never would have seen his mom again. Had he served out this term, it's a wonderful day that he is back home. Okay. So that's that story. Let's switch gears. So

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We talked in the first hour with Adam Carolla about how the left is very unhappy about Elon Musk, Doge and the cuts happening to government workers, you know, staff numbers and budgets. So how do you think Trump is doing and what do you make of Elon so far?

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I think that's a fair point. And I actually think that there's not really a desire by Trump or anybody else to cut like the funding we were doing for women and their babies who are born with HIV. I actually think that just got swept up because the whole program was such a mess and had been so corrupted. It was like, no, we're stopping it. And I think that will probably come back.

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not only because it's the right thing to do, but because we do worry about China stepping in and becoming like the big brother and getting more closely aligned with these countries that right now are grateful to the United States for all the help that we give to them.

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It's it's just that it got so corrupted by all these other weird far left DEI things that they were like, let's just know like it's stopping right now and then we can we can start again. And I think that will start again. But let me ask you, let's talk about this Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, which I think most people don't even know anything about, to be honest with you.

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But it was started, it's kind of an Elizabeth Warren project. It was started after the big bank meltdown in 08 to like try to make sure something like that doesn't happen again, where there's this collusion within the financial industry on mortgages or something related that winds up really screwing over the consumers.

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In many instances, first with the mortgages and the collapse, and then with us having to bail out the banks, like the hope is that they'd protect something like that from happening, prevent it from happening again. But here, so on Friday, Elon Musk posted on his X page saying, CFPB, Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, RIP with the tombstone emoji.

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The CFPB's ex-account has since been deleted. And Trump also announced that they are closing the offices of the CFPB for the coming week.

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And Russell Vogt, director of OMB, said that we would, he ordered the staff there to cease all supervision and examination activity and cease all stakeholder engagement and said he would not take the next drawdown of funding from the Federal Reserve for this group. They say that this is why they did it.

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The White House put out a statement saying, this is another one of those agencies that's just lost its way, right? Like it's not doing just the main thing that I think you and I are both happy for them to do. They say this CFPB used its slush fund collected from targeting these financial institutions to support radical advocacy groups.

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One such group is the Soros-backed Mississippi Center for Justice, which advocates for racial and economic justice, targets religious liberty, assists illegal immigrants seeking to skirt our nation's laws.

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law another is the legal aid society of dc whose board features senior left-wing officials has lobbied hundreds of thousands of times for more welfare spending that the group threatened banks for refusing to lend to illegal immigrants they targeted chicago small business after a complaint about the city's rampant crime it was accused of mining americans citizens personal financial information with a 2017 inspector general report raising significant concerns about data security etc they're saying the same thing happened here as happened to usaid which is why

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If you don't, and I- I'll tell you why. I have not looked beyond the White House's assertions that these are problems and that's what they're trying. So I'll take your word for now that you've looked into it and you don't believe they're viable, that they're true. But if that's true, then why are they doing this?

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It's very interesting. That's a good alternate side of it. What did you make of Elon at the White House yesterday? Because he was up there sort of serially going through some of the things that have been said about him and then some of the things that he says he's finding.

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One of the most interesting things was he was talking about how it's so hard to fire people, but how there's a maximum of 10,000 people who can be fired from the federal government in a month because they have to go through some – just antiquated exchange of forms that goes down literally into a mine, like an actual mine. Well, I'll let him explain it. Stand by. It's a top three.

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Let it flourish. Find your purpose at Grand Canyon University. Private. Christian. Affordable. Visit gcu.edu. Adam, welcome back. Great to have you. So Elon goes into the Oval last night and he's standing next to Trump at the Resolute desk. And, you know, the media is like he's literally Trump is literally looking up at him. He's looking up at him just trying to diminish Trump.

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I think that's very effective, right? It sounds crazy. And I think the average person staying at home is like drinking this in, right? Like, wow, here are pictures of the mine. This is so weird. Why are we doing this in such an antiquated way? This is not a good use of our taxpayer dollars.

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Only because Trump Trump let him command the room. I mean, it was no different from when I appeared at the Trump rally in Pittsburgh. And Trump stepped away from the microphone and then said, go ahead, Megan. And he was standing off to the side. Didn't make me look like the president. It's like he I had the mic because he gave it to me and I would lose the mic if he said stop talking.

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Same as Elon. I will say this. This is. Washington Examiner and Washington Post this morning. Washington Examiner, the mine complex is owned by Iron Mountain, which leases out caverns for storage. And we were using Manhattan mini storage all those years in New York. The government moved its old records there in 1960.

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The mine, which holds employees in the government's Office of Personnel Management, has been trying to revolutionize its process for decades without success. The government's been trying to automate the mine's work since at least 1981. At least $100 million has been spent on the effort to automate the work there, and it's not happening.

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You know, Trump was sitting at the desk because he's the actual president. You know, you can't win, right? Like what's he supposed to do? Pull up a little kiddie table, like a little, one of those little fold out TV trays for Elon to sit at and give us a presser. He was trying to give us transparency, but the media has been demanding and Elon stood there for 30 minutes.

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Washington Post reported from inside the mine in 2014, the five-step process for a worker's retirement papers... just to be fully processed, like just to get them and process them. First step, a worker files the retirement paper and the paperwork is shipped to the facility. Once it arrives, a worker must match it up to other paper records or scan them into a digital database.

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All the paperwork must be placed into a file. Missing paperwork must be acquired from other federal agencies. That paperwork is then turned into a digital file, reviewed separately by another employee. It took at least 61 days on average then, the same amount of time it took In 1977, when I am going to guess you were not even born. This is so sad.

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I mean, I think people get it's just right that the government sucks. And this is part of why Trump got elected. Right. It's like you don't expect him to do it perfectly. You don't expect it to be all T's dotted or all I's dotted and T's crossed. But you want the bull going into this China shop and saying, why the F are we using a mine that we were using in 1977? Right.

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He's not going to do anything right. He's not going to touch Medicare or security with reform or anything because he's a smart politician. They all know if they say anything about Medicare or Social Security, they're not going to win. So all of the efforts have been outside of those two groups, which, of course, are the main groups behind entitlement spending.

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And I mean, that would really show you want to see like Trump proving he has a steely spine and he doesn't give a shit. Go do something about that over there.

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Why won't he do that? I mean, I know why he won't lower the retirement age for Social Security and he doesn't want to make any Medicare cuts or do anything that's going to increase costs for seniors. But why wouldn't he allow Medicare to negotiate costs?

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answering all these questions that have been raised by the media on what he's finding, where he's made mistakes, how transparent he's trying to be and how he's bringing it to us. Nothing will ever satisfy them, Adam. I, for one, am amazed that this kind of patriotic citizen will sacrifice of himself in this way when he's got

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What about that, Anna? This isn't something I spent a lot of time on, but like this sounds like something that wouldn't typically be done because most people are beholden to the drug companies who don't want this. And our KJ is not beholden to the drug companies. That's one of the great things about him. That's that's one of the things the left hates about him.

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But he, you know, technically oversees Medicare now. And well, when he gets confirmed, which is going to be tomorrow. And Dr. Oz directly oversees Medicare and Medicaid. And so like me, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe they actually will. touch the untouchable.

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And by the way, hasn't Trump already done enough for the big pharma with the, you know, Operation Warp Speed and the vaccines and the liability shield over companies like Pfizer? Like that's he's done enough for them. He doesn't need to keep protecting them. This would be a great thing to consider. All right. Stand by. We're going to take a quick break.

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five, six, seven, I can't, I've lost count, other major businesses to run. And yet you listen to the left and they would think Trump had hired the devil incarnate to gut the most important agencies of this federal government. What do you make of it?

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Okay, I want to talk to you about a couple of things from the Super Bowl. I was at the Super Bowl, and the one disadvantage of being at the Super Bowl is you don't get to see the ads. And they're kind of fun to watch, and they're always fun to rip on, right? And I missed that experience. So slowly but surely, I am getting to them.

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Here we are on Wednesday, and I still have two I haven't talked about. And I'd love to do that with you. Okay, so first of all, Jennifer Say, who used to work at Levi's and was a star gymnast when she was younger, she started this company XXXY, and she's been pressuring Nike to try to do an ad, to try to get them to do an ad.

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Her ad has all these little girls saying, will you stand up for me, Nike? Will you stand up for me to try to keep boys out of girls' sports? Will you stand up for me? Of course. So Nike does an ad, and it's about girls. Great. We're halfway there. And is it about keeping boys out of their sports? No. It's about how... I guess America is full of sexist pigs and girl power. Watch the ad.

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You can't win, so win, is how the screen reads. I'm sorry, Anna. They missed the boat entirely. That is not today's issue. They are ignoring the elephant in the living room. What do you make of it?

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I went to college from 1988 to 1992 as I'm an old lady. And these were the messages they were telling me when I was 17 through 21 about being a woman in America. Like you can be emotional. You can be ambitious. You know, you can stand out. You can win.

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Like, hello, would you Nike, you know, 2025 called and they want an updated ad that matches the issues of the day, like what's happening in girls sports and not to be outdone. The NFL decided to drop its own ad for a reason that it remains a mystery to me. that is completely consistent with what we just saw from Nike trying to highlight what a sexist society we live in.

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Now it's girls playing flag football against other girls. Let's make girls flag football a varsity sport in all 50 states. Okay, help me out here because, again, this whole thing seems to be set in the 1980s. They've got, like, the razor glasses. The guy's got a mullet. He has the collar turned up. They've got the rock band.

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And they're trying to pretend that this girl, when playing against a team of the Brads, who are, of course, doofuses because the left loves to portray... Men, especially white men, but all men. It's just a bunch of like clawed doofuses. And she smokes them all, which is not how it would actually go at all.

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I mean, what's actually happening when girls are playing against boys is they're getting hurt. They're getting beaten. They're in danger. They're getting all their teeth knocked out. They're in the pool with the likes of Leah Thomas, and they're getting absolutely crushed by full body lengths. That's what actually happens because women are at a physical disadvantage.

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But in this imaginary NFL world where Women are crushing the Brad and guys like him because girl power. And all of this is to promote girl football, which is against other girls, Anna. So help me out. What is what is the NFL saying here?

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Why wouldn't the NFL, if they want to get girls playing flag football, show girls playing flag football against girls? And how fun it is and how competitive and how fierce. Why do you have to make guys into the big loser oafs who, you know, obviously men suck. They're dumb. They're Neanderthals. They're outdated. Like, why? Why would you do that?

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Like, that's part of this wokeness, this woke mind virus, as Elon calls it. And we're over it. And we won a whole election in order to send that message. Let me ask you this.

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There is now a push by the Trump administration who sent a letter to the NCAA and to the body that governs high school sports saying, thanks to Trump's executive order, we can't have boys playing in girls sports on any NCAA team. But they're saying not only that, we want you to revoke the medals of the boys who did play and stole the girls' medals over the past years.

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Like Leah Thomas, with whom Riley Gaines had to share her fifth place trophy, who won the 500 meter. He took gold in a women's match. And I have to say, and Riley said she's, look at this, look at the height difference and the size difference. And Riley has said she's totally in favor of this. It's not just about her. It's about all the women she's been fighting for. And so am I. What say you?

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We've been watching, you know, in Connecticut where I live, male athletes who ran as males the season before. then switch over to the female team and crush their female competitors who have not been through male puberty, who don't have testosterone in these numbers racing through their bodies. I mean, I've interviewed the girls. It's just so unfair.

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And I actually do think what is fair, here's a video of one in such track meet. What is fair is to make those men give back our trophies. They stole them. They cheated their way into getting them in the first place. And what is fair when somebody cheats? They do it in baseball all the time. You can't get into the Hall of Fame.

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My team, Syracuse, where I went to school, they got stripped of a bunch of titles because they recruited people with all sorts of, I don't know, nice lures that they weren't supposed to give and they had to give up their trophies. That's what happened here. They should be forced to give back the trophies. Annika Sperian, thank you so much. It's been a pleasure. Thank you.

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It was a pleasure for me, too. All right. Come back soon. I know we are back tomorrow and we're going to have the fellas from Ruthless who next week are celebrating a very special anniversary. And we'll have a preview for you on that. I actually think it's gonna be fun to talk to them about Mitch McConnell not voting for Tulsi because, you know, Holmes used to work for McConnell.

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So he doesn't hate McConnell. But of course, McConnell's changed in the Republican Party. So where do the fellas stand now? We'll talk to them tomorrow. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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The strategy by the Democrats seems obvious now. Yes, they're trying to drive a wedge between Trump and Elon because they'd love to see Elon gone. They feel very threatened by the work he's doing, you know, taking a hard look at the bureaucracy and seeing where efficiencies can be found, meaning people can be laid off or fired or we can reduce the spending, which is the last thing they want.

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This is all left wing slush funds throughout these organizations. So they're terrified. That's why they're doing this. They want Elon gone. but their main, you know, new found new Trump 2.0 form of resistance is lawfare. They've filed now over 50 lawsuits to try to stop Trump's executive orders.

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And it took quite a bit of browbeating to get these Republican senators in line. You know, the letters she had to write, it's just, boy, they really make you bend the knee when you're in her position. But you know what? She's in now. And that's that. You know, all we really needed was your yes vote. So thank you for doing that. And really, there should be a conversation about like.

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And what it seems to me as I, as I zoom out a little and look at these and you tell me what your impression is, is that We had a Congress that allocated money for various organizations. And instead of just taking that money and training teachers how to teach or helping them improve math scores, they went completely rogue and radical left-wing.

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With all these organizations, yes, from the Department of Education to this USAID and beyond. Now we're starting to see some other organizations and started funding like slush funding DEI initiatives across the country, across the globe, shoving gender ideology down our throats at every turn. And Trump goes in there and says, stop that. I want you to return to core missions.

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Take all that nonsense out of there. I'm not spending anybody's money on that stuff. I want it taken down and I want the people who are doing it fired. And they file 50 lawsuits to say, you have to spend the money the way that we told you to without any acknowledgement that they are not on mission and haven't been for some time.

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The law fair is working in some instances, at least at the first go around with the federal district court judges, but it's getting out of hand. Yesterday we saw, uh, a judge, it was a George W. Bush appointee, a federal district judge, insist that the federal government restore the DEI pages that had been taken down at CDC and NIH and another related agency.

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Because Vivek Murthy, who was Obama's Surgeon General, was his group filed a lawsuit saying, you know, doctors really rely on those pages that they didn't take down the CDC website. They didn't take down NIH. They took down select pages pursuant to Trump's anti-DEI order. Like, I don't want the gender ideology crap on government websites.

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It's non-factual, it's non-scientific, and it's not helpful. And so they actually filed a lawsuit over these websites. And this judge sided with the plaintiffs saying, you've got to put those websites back to the way they used to be. Now we have federal district court judges policing individual web pages, Adam. I'm sorry, but we've lost the plot. We should not be in a position where the

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Exactly what extractions are appropriate to demand by these senators of cabinet nominees? I mean, this person, she's working for Trump, right? She's got oversight by the Congress, but she's not working for you. She wasn't hired by you directly, Senator. I've got a couple in mind and I will do them the favor of not mentioning them here. But I think there will be a conversation to come on this.

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Judiciary, Article 3, can tell Article 2, the president, what web pages he has to have on government agencies.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. I'm Megan Kelly. Welcome to The Megan Kelly Show and happy Wednesday. We are learning new and disturbing details about the accused healthcare CEO killer as his manifesto and other chilling writings become public.

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So as somebody who, you know, does this kind of profiling, Candace, what he's saying, I don't really understand it that well. There are a lot of people who get it better than I do. But I understand I'm the one, the first one to sort of be brave enough, he's saying, to do what needs to be done here, to face it with brutal honesty. And he's confessing to the feds. Let me save you the time.

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I did it and I did it alone. What does all that, if it proves to be real, and so far it looks like it may be, tell you?

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Well, we may say that defense offered, depending on where the facts go. I think we will. Candace, it's always a pleasure. Thank you. Thank you so much for being here.

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So interesting, right? It's so interesting. I mean, this guy was methodical. He used a lot of planning, the escape plan and so on. It was far from perfect. So all of that will be used by the prosecution to say he knew exactly what he was doing. But Legally insane is a different standard. And, you know, John Hinckley went to a mental facility instead of a jail because he he did it for Jodie Foster.

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He didn't realize what he was doing was was wrong. I mean, this can work depending on what the facts are. And we'll see. So far, his lawyer isn't saying we're going to cop to an insanity plea or anything like that. He's suggesting we have the wrong guy, which is laughable. Okay, now we're joined by Dr. Leonard Sachs. Dr. Sachs is a psychologist.

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He's a family physician, an MD, and a New York Times bestselling author. He, by the way, is one of the few people in the world, I think, to have completed his education at MIT at age 19. That's the level of brilliance we're talking about here. We had Dr. Sachs on in January of last year for a wide-ranging discussion on parenting, the trans contagion, and more. It's a must-listen.

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And yet he's supposed to be the Robin Hood? He's the one we're supposed to be rooting for? Screw you. It don't have the time. My mom always used to say, I cannot respond to irrational behavior rationally. And that is how I feel when I look at these morons trying to talk about this guy like he's some sort of our hero, this Luigi dude. All right, so Dr. Leonard Sacks is going to be on in one second.

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It was episode 474. He recently revised and updated his incredible bestselling book, The Collapse of Parenting, how we hurt our kids when we treat them like grownups. And it is even more necessary today. Dr. Sachs, welcome back to the show. I want to get into all things about the update.

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But can I get your thoughts to kick it off on this accused killer in connection with the murder of Brian Thompson and what you glean from the facts that we just outlaid with Candace?

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So how do you figure out whether it's that kind of a problem where he is sane and has not suffered a psychotic break, but just is under this delusion that he needs to be a hero somehow and he's got to do it. He's the only one brave enough to do it versus, oh no, it's, it's basically a school shooter with a different purpose. He's had a break.

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It happens often around this age and you know, he's lost it. He's, he's no longer of sane mind.

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But first, we want to get into some of the psychology of this guy and how on earth this could possibly happen. Like, how could this have gone down by a guy with that kind of pedigree who turns into a killer if what the police say is correct? And for that, we bring on Candace DeLong. She's a former FBI criminal profiler. She worked on cases like the Unabomber, the Tylenol murders.

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What would you guess, and this is a total guess because we don't know much about his family, but you are a parenting expert and an actual MD, and you've been doing this kind of work for decades now. I'm just going to guess, Dr. Sachs, that the Mangione family probably didn't have the dinners around the table together seven nights a week. That's just a stab in the dark.

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We spoke to her on episode 466 about the Idaho murders. So you may be familiar with Candace's work. When they first recruited her over at the FBI, she was a head nurse over at Northwestern University. And then she went on to work, as I said, on some of the most prominent cases in America. She's hosted the award-winning podcast Killer Psyche with Candace DeLong.

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And then UPenn, which is so adrift that its president was forced out last year for not being able to say that it's wrong to chant things like, well, basically, death to Israel, death to the Jews.

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You know, she's going to have to really think it over and figure out whether that's allowed on campus.

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Yes. Very scary. So this, okay. There's so much to go over, but I asked my followers on X today, knowing that you were going to come on, whether they had anything they wanted me to ask you. And I'll get to some of those questions throughout the course of the two hours. But one of the questions was, and it came up over and over, and I thought, this is actually a really good one.

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Let me see if I can find the way they put it. But How do we help our children in today's day and age with AI, with tech everywhere, with video games and iPhones, how to find purpose, how to find their purpose? I was like, oh my gosh, that's a big one. Sorry to dump that big one on you so soon in our interview, but to your point, how do you?

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That's so key that I think in today's day and age, many parents are very worried about, is Junior getting asked on enough play dates or to go hang with his or her friends enough? Is my kid the kid that's sitting at home with me and my spouse too much? Are they popular? Are they out there with friends, which is what is considered, quote, normal? And to those parents, you say?

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Is NetNanny the software that you're saying parents can use to monitor the kids?

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You'll hear parents say, well, I need my child to trust me. And if she doesn't trust me, she's not going to tell me anything. So if she knows I'm sneaking around on her phone or I'm sneaking in her room to read her diary- it's going to blow up to the relationship to where I'm no longer a resource for her.

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This comes amid more bizarre displays of praise for this guy, Luigi Mangione, from those who are positioning him as some kind of Robin Hood figure. I'm over it. I'm really over it. that psychosis by some faction of the American populace. Just, you know what, like Dr. Leonard Sachs is here in just a few minutes. I mean, this is the parenting expert. He's an MD, he's a PhD.

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And they know how you feel. They know how I feel about social media use and children. But like John Rich, a great singer, music superstar, he actually wrote in on my ex account. And his question was, I don't have the exact wording in front of me. Hold on. It was what age is okay for social media, right?

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With understanding the reality that at some point your child is going to figure out what Snapchat or TikTok or these apps are. At what point would you introduce it to them? Do you want it to happen while you're there and they're still in the home with you and you can talk about it? Or do you wait until they go off to college? What do you think?

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How does a guy with that kind of a background, with all the advantages, who was a valedictorian of his high school class just 10 years ago in 16, not even 10 years ago in 16, who goes on to complete a bachelor's and a master's at the University of Pennsylvania, not exactly an easy school, wind up becoming this much of what looks like a psycho killer in just a few years?

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Yes, this is so good to hear. I mean, I feel like we've all experienced this in our day-to-day lives with the weird competitive strain amongst some kids where they're not rooting for their friends. If one friend gets a home run, instead of cheering him on, the other teammate is like, put me in, I need to get a home run. It's like, what? This is a weird strain that we're seeing.

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um, in today's kids too often. And that makes perfect sense. And yeah, I mean, I think I've said this many times about the Russians. I've been over there a few times and they're actually a very loving people who think wonderful things about the American people. Our leaders have had obvious conflicts and, you know, we know what's happened in Ukraine, but it's not to demonize the Russian people.

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If you went and spent time over there, it's still a Christian nation. They still have some fundamental beliefs that we could all get behind and It's our country that's lost its mind culturally. And whenever you say that, they think you're some sort of a Russiophile, but that's not what I'm saying. It's not what Tucker has been saying. Anyway, I know it's not what Dr. Sacks is saying.

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There's so much more to go over. There's tons of questions coming in. By the way, our audience can email me with questions for Dr. Sacks. You can still get on board. It's megan at megankelly.com. You can do it right now. And we'll pick back up with him in just two minutes. Don't go away. Looking for the perfect gift or maybe just a treat for yourself? Firecracker Farm Hot Salt is an awesome gift.

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How about the drive for good grades? Because I had one parent write in saying, how hard should I push my teenager in today's day and age with kids suffering from anxiety? If my kid is like, I'm striving for Bs, Do I just say, good for you, honey? You know, do what you think is right. Or do I say, well, why not A's? You know, maybe you don't have to play two and a half hours of basketball.

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Maybe you could take one of those hours and go for an A. But parents are almost afraid to do that now because, you know, our kids are all so stressed out.

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What does it look like to you? Like schizophrenia? Because you tell me, if you're having a psychotic break, and I know, and we've seen this with young men in particular who are guilty of mass shootings, seems to happen between 19 years old and the mid-20s. But are those people generally like this guy, Luigi, where you're fine for all the years prior to that?

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That was one of the things that the Menendez parents allegedly told their kids before they killed them. You've got to get straight A's. You have to win, period. It doesn't matter how you do it. You can cheat. You can steal. Fine. What's important is to win. Just don't get caught. And it was kind of a fascinating thing and didn't end well.

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I read that when it came out, Dr. Sachs. And I remember finding it so fascinating. And when the trans insanity exploded, I was like, this is the one guy I want to talk to. Because he wrote before all this nonsense that there are two different sexes. They are very, very different and it matters. And now we're told, no, it's completely interchangeable.

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Yeah, but I know you've been making the point, and you make the point here, too, that The male brain and the female brain are very, very different. And that parents must understand that. Yes. And even the trans activists should be honest about this. Like if you want to parade around trying to look like a woman, that's your choice.

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But don't try to tell me that because you feel like a woman, even though you're a man, You just are because all the studies show that your brain is different. Yes, your body's different, but your brain is different.

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And you make the point in this book that parents need to understand that too because you look at your child, your boy child, and you interpret his behavior one way because you have an older sister to that boy who at this stage was doing things very, very differently, maybe at a rapid pace compared to the boy, and you're making no allowances for why gender matters.

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let's talk about autism for a second because it's of course very much in the news and with Robert F. Kennedy jr. Up for potential HHS chief. He's been saying, you know, is it environmental? There's so many toxins around us from the microplastics, which you just mentioned to, uh, the pollutants in our air, in our soil and so on, on our food. Um,

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Hmm. This is a, in our own family, it's a hard line. If, if the talk towards myself or my husband gets disrespectful, they will get punished and they know it, you know, we're not, they're usually very good kids. They don't, we don't have a ton of opportunity to punish them, but you know, that's smart talk back to the parent. That's extremely disrespectful. we will punish them for that.

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That's dark. I mean, could that happen to anybody? Because what I'm looking at with this guy is, well, we don't know much about his family, but there's a lot of references to like mushrooms or drugs on his social media. And we did have on Dr. Roland Griffith, who was the guy-

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But for this very reason, there have to be like societal boundaries within which we play. And if you're a child and you're speaking to an adult, all the more so. This reminded me, just asked my team to pull it over, of a bit James Carville did. after the election, the Bill Clinton aide who helped get him elected. And he's a Southerner, he's a Louisiana boy through and through.

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And he's not woke, he's a leftist Democrat, but he is not a woke guy. And he went on a rant about young people within the campaign, the Democratic Party, who think they know everything because someone hasn't set those guardrails for them on understanding respect and respect for one's elders and that one doesn't know everything, especially as a young person. It's a great bit.

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This is reminding me too of the way we speak to our children today or the way we're told we should speak to them today is just so vastly different from how my parents spoke to me when I was growing up and just, you know, a couple of generations ago, the way it was, you know,

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you can make the case against the way parents like mine, my mom, Linda, who I adore, you know, lines like, stop crying or I'll give you something to cry about. Okay. That may have been a little far on the spectrum, but today we've gone so far around the bend that we have lost our authority.

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who really founded, not really, who did found the clinic for psilocybin and for these sort of MDNA treatments for people who are depressed at Johns Hopkins. But one of the main things he said, Candace, was, you don't do those drugs recreationally or outside of a setting in which a prior family history of psychosis or schizophrenia can be detected.

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And we're, I don't know what kind of psychobabble these young parents are listening to, but it's encapsulated in this bit that was going around Instagram recently. This is like a a prepared bit between what looks like a mom and daughter acting, but it captures it perfectly. Watch.

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It's, it's reminding me at our school, uh, at our son's school, it's an all boys school. They understand that students will make bad decisions and they'll do stupid things sometimes. But the thing that will really get you expelled quickly is if you get called in to the head of school's office and you lie about what you did, like he, he's not calling you in there unless he's got you dead to rights.

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half the time they've got cameras in the school. So he's already seen what you've done. And if you lie, you're out. He's pretty hardcore about that. If you own up to it and confess, you were a numbskull, you know, you did something really stupid and you're sorry, you will live to fight another day. But it's a, to your point, it's about the value system. Like honesty is a, it's just a deal breaker.

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He said, because if we see anything like that in the questionnaire we give our potential participants, they're bounced because it can trigger a psychotic break from which you may not return. I have seen that.

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You can't, we can't have anything, can't have character if we don't have that fundamental, basic honesty. Can I ask you something else?

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When another audience member asked, how do I know at what age I can start talking to my kids more as adults, you know, being honest with them about my own thought process and why I'm not going to allow them to do this thing that they want to do or about the problems as I see it in the family, outside, whatever. Like, how does one know what level of dialogue to have with one's kid?

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I seem to remember you being a big proponent of chores and responsibilities for kids. Does that extend to, I had one audience member ask about, to what extent is it appropriate for me to ask the older kids to help me with the younger kids? Because the older kids have responsibilities of their own and they have grades they have to keep up and they have sports they have to make.

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And like, is it a dereliction of your parental duty to fold in the older ones to help with the younger ones? Or is that a good thing?

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Are you surprised to hear all these friends coming out and saying, totally nice guy, absolutely didn't see any, and recently, the college friend saying, absolutely no hint of this. And the most they seem to be able to come up with is, well, he had this terrible back injury, though so far no one is claiming he was denied insurance or anything like that, but like he had some terrible back injury.

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He has spent his life studying longitudinal long-term studies of children and actually practicing with children. And he actually knows a thing or two about psychology. And one of his main takeaways is have dinner with your children. Have family dinners. In a perfect world, seven nights a week. But as many nights as you can, even if it's short of seven.

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They'll use the kids, use the olders to take care of the youngers and use them around the house and use them on everything. I think it feels very foreign to think of a parent, you know, if your child is like, I really think I'm going to do something great in this world. Like to be like, now my mother would have said this.

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you might, and you might not, we really haven't seen any signs that you'll do that yet, but you know, good luck. That's truly, that's how my mom raised me. But I feel like I couldn't say that to my child. I don't know what I think I'd probably say. Yes, you will, sweetheart. I don't, what, how would you handle expressions of, from a child of, you know, hope about their own future like that?

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Like I, I see myself as destined for something wonderful. I don't, whatever, however you want to phrase it.

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So good. I've been thinking about my mom a lot lately. She just came for a visit. She's hilarious. And there was this meme going around on Instagram that read as follows. I'm going to botch it a little bit. It was something to the effect of the hardest thing about being a mom or a parent is you are raising the one thing you can't live without to be able to live without you.

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This is heartbreaking, you know, instant lump in the throat and in tears welling. And I'm sentimental like that. And my mom actually was in for a visit and my daughter was in a play. So we went and, uh, I showed it to my mom who's 83 now and she laughed. Linda, it's just, she's tough and she raised me in a tough way, but it worked out, you know? And I think about all this stuff.

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Like I never was told I had to get straight A's. I didn't get straight A's. No one ever hassled me over it. I was never told I was special. It's all the opposite stuff that now I've sort of been making fun of for the past 20 years. But you know what, doc, maybe, maybe my mom was onto something. I don't know.

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I got, let me, let me just ask you this. So I got to take a break, but I want to ask you this question when I come back. So how did any of us who were raised in the seventies or before survive? Because most of us had parents who totally ignored us and they were not the primary person really in our lives. We were kind of alone and independent and latchkey, but we wound up. Okay.

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No, no. And would it be typical, do you think? I mean, are you surprised to learn he went kind of underground or went radio silent with respect to family and friends over these past six months to the point where his mother filed a missing persons report for him in San Francisco in November, believing that that's where he was, though we don't know where he was at the time.

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So, Doc, what do you make of that? So those of us who grew up in the 70s, pretty much without parents who turned out fine.

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We have two minutes left with the Sirius XM audience. We're going to continue this over on podcast and youtube.com slash Megan Kelly. But in the two minutes we have left, one of our audience members wrote in, how do I deprogram a kid from the woke mind virus without losing them? You know, in our family, we've done a pre-inoculation against it.

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But a lot of parents got swept, their kids got swept into this, you know, when they didn't even know to inoculate them. So what's the answer to that one?

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Wow, that's excellent. It's back to your core message, more time with you, more time around the dinner table, more time with your values and bonding with you and reestablishing that close relationship. And I know we talked about last time, don't vacation with your children's friends. No, they cannot bring a friend on the vacay.

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Those are for families to reconnect with one another because those relationships are so critical to your child's wellness for reasons like this. So speaking of the woke mind virus, Part of what it does is teaches children to prioritize identity over everything with skin color or some alleged weird sexual proclivity or some alleged gender spectrum nonsense. But it also leans in to any gender.

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weakness, illness, alleged mental defect. You know, I was saying not long ago, in today's day and age, your kid cannot get into a good college by writing, I came from a loving family where I was raised with great values and two present loving parents who were there for me to set boundaries.

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You've got to say, you've got some phobia, some issue, and there's a chapter in the book called, it's about normophobia. Normophobia. So can you explain that?

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for could be a variety of you. Yeah. Mm-hmm. What do you make of, I mean, you're about as expert as they come in the Unabomber. He seemed to admire him quite a bit. And they had some group, like a book club that they were forming And it was this guy and two others. And this is the first book he wanted them to read.

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Mm-hmm. One of the, like a related offshoot of this problem is the nonstop desire to discuss one's problems in the school setting. Abigail Schreier wrote a book about this recently, Bad Therapy. But more and more, the schools, I will say, especially the girls' schools, want the kids to discuss trauma? Has anything bad ever happened to you? What did that feel like?

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Has anyone suffered a loss or a death in the family? What did that feel like? And then they're supposed to go off and do math. What do you make of this leaning into discussing your trauma in the school setting by some school psychologist who may or may not have any sort of abilities to do that kind of thing with a kid?

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Hmm. Let's talk about, uh, and we, forgive me, we covered this the last time I don't remember, but you know, my kids are getting into their teens now, so this is not yet relevant, but I'm sure it will be relevant in the next five, seven years. Um, drinking, right? Like, I don't know. I'm sure you'd see signs on your child if you're an attentive parent.

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At some point, you would see signs once your child starts drinking socially, if they start drinking socially, especially when they get more up into senior year. College, you're not going to be able to control what happens at college. But How do you see that? Because let me tell you, in my mom's circles, there are all sorts of opinions on like, you're not going to stop it.

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Like walk them through, like don't have more than one. Don't have a mixed drink, you know, set some guardrails for them. Or there's moms who are like, absolutely not. Don't, you know, it should be shamed. Talk to them about the dangers of it. Slippery slope, all that. Or moms who are like, eh, you know, whatever. We host parties, and we actually let them have a couple of drinks.

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And apparently they all found it so disturbing, like his manifesto, that the book club disjoined. It fell apart before they made it through the end of Ted Kaczynski's writings. But this Luigi fellow really found him inspiring.

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So you talk about it explicitly and encourage her to make these different choices.

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A follow-up on the normophobia discussion a minute ago, because we talked on our last episode about the trans stuff and children and so much has happened. I mean, a week is like a year on that front these days. The Supreme Court just heard a big case on it and so on. But we've seen a few things in the news lately that have been pretty disturbing, and I'd love to get your take.

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In the wake of that Supreme Court case, CNN decided to bring on a bunch of children who CNN says are allegedly trans, you know, believing that they're in quote, the wrong body and are actually the opposite sex of the one they are. in some cases with their parents, to talk about just how awful the fact that their necessary medication is being debated by the U.S. Supreme Court.

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What was at issue in that case, for those not aware, is the some odd half of the United States have passed laws banning puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones for children, for minors. And because...

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it's been found by objective studies and places like the UK and elsewhere that they actually are potentially very dangerous for children and they can sterilize you and remove all sexual function and pleasure for the rest of your life. And how can a 10 year old consent to any of that?

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So CNN puts on this panel and they have this 10 year old child who I believe is a boy who's posing as a girl, uh, named, uh, I don't know the kid's name, but the, the boy posing as the girl is trying to express their fear over this country and what's happening now. And I'd love to get your thoughts on this clip. It's a, is it sat five Kelly? Let's play it.

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So the women are- For the listening audience, it shows in the top left quadrant, a bunch of red dots and the bottom right quadrant, a bunch of blue dots and there's zero overlap. The blue is male.

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He was being led into the courthouse yesterday to be charged in connection with this alleged crime. And seem to be trying to wriggle out of the physical control of the police officers to be heard. It's kind of difficult to understand what he's saying, but my read of it is, and we'll play it, but I'll just give it to you in advance.

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I do find it interesting how these parents, these parents lean in. And in that clip for the listening audience, the young boy posing as a girl is listening to the mother who's crying over the child's potential loss of access to these pills. And the child reaches up to comfort the mother.

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The child, like, touches the mother from down below, which is a reversal, right, of the way this is a 10-year-old kid. It's supposed to be. And I, you know, all I can think of is this meme. Charlie Kirk sent it out. I'm sure he may not have been the first, but it was, if your child... If you think you're trans, you have a mental illness.

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If your child thinks he or she is trans, it's the mother who has the mental illness. It's the parents who have like, and I cannot help but notice over and over and over again, you see parents who are weirdly almost needy of this thing. Like they won't, you write about this in the book, they won't say that they're having a boy when the ultrasound shows the kid has XY chromosomes.

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You know, the baby, they're gonna wait for the kid to tell them what they are. And then that leads me to one other video I wanted to show you, because we showed it on the show, or we haven't yet, but it's disturbing. I can't remember whether we did or not, frankly. But anyway, it's a dad. And I normally wouldn't... I don't bring parents and children...

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you know, onto the show or show their videos ever. If they haven't put something out intentionally, I think if they want us to be talking about it, then I think it's fair game. And that's what this dad wants. He's, uh, in the UK, his name is Jonathan Jolie, J O L Y. And he has a boy who he's now raising as a girl named Edie. They have almost 4 million followers on Tik TOK.

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And all this dad does is update us with his boy looking more and more like a girl at a very young age. And it's a very almost sexualized looking exchange. And what they're doing to quote Edie is very reminiscent to me of what like JonBenet Ramsey looked like a sexualized child with the hair and the makeup. But I'm not an expert. Let me show you what I'm talking about.

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And there are other videos of the parents putting a lot of makeup on Edie. Very sort of sexy makeup, heavy eyeliner, wet lip gloss. I find it very disturbing. Doc, what do you make of this?

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It's completely, we don't know what, it's completely out of touch and an insult to the intelligence of the American people. It's lived experience. Listen here.

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Someone needed to do that in the families of the people who are now praising this guy as a Robin Hood figure. You're an idiot. By the way, heard this from our pals over on the editors. The guy... The Brian Thompson who was murdered, the CEO who was murdered comes from no privilege. His dad was totally self-made. I think he was a farmer.

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Hopefully, the U.S. Supreme Court will see it that way as well and will issue a sensible ruling from what we saw. I predict they will. Dr. Sachs, so great talking to you. Love, love, love when you come on. Please come back soon.

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And don't forget, the name of the book is The Collapse of Parenting, the revised edition. You can get it right now and do so. Don't let it sell out from all the listeners who are now rushing to read more about Dr. Sachs' longitudinal cohort studies that separate fact from fiction and feelings. And this is an area that's sorely in need of that. Hope it was helpful to you. It certainly was to me.

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OK, I want to tell you that tomorrow we've got the fellas from the Ruthless program back on the show. Always fun when they swing by. We'll see you then. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda and no fear.

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They're trying to bring him back to New York where his lawyer is fighting it to keep him in Pennsylvania for a few more weeks. I mean, I think the game is delay, delay, delay when you have a criminal defendant with this much evidence against him. What do you make of that?

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Okay, so it's performative to some extent. I think so. We've got I mean, his lawyer says I've seen no evidence that he's the killer. OK, we've all seen overwhelming evidence. If one tenth of what the news is reporting that it was all over this guy. He other than I mean, he basically had a T-shirt that read I'm the killer of CEO Brian Thompson. He had his manifesto on him. He had the gun on him.

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He had the bullets on him. He now the latest reporting is that his fingerprints, they do match fingerprints found at the scene of the murder.

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And, um, uh, in the notebook that's on him, this is how one of the ways in which we know other than his book club that he had a fondness for the Unabomber because they are reporting at CNN that his notebook included a list of to do's and tasks that he needed to complete to facilitate a killing as well as notes, justifying those plans.

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And in one passage in the notebook, he concludes that using a bomb against his intended victim could kill innocents or but that shooting would be much more targeted, musing what could be better than, quote, to kill the CEO at his own bean-counting conference, which indeed is what happened.

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Try to help us understand here, Candace, because if you read his alleged manifesto, and the police haven't yet released it, but there is a report online, CBS claims that they've seen it, Ken Klippenstein claiming he's seen it and has posted it, Um, it goes on to say some of what we already read to our audience yesterday to the feds.

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I'll keep it short because I respect what you do for the country to save you a left lengthy investigation. I state plainly, I wasn't working with anyone. This was fairly trivial, some elementary social engineering, basic CAD. I don't know what that means. A lot of patients. The spiral notebook, if present, has some straggling notes and to-do lists that illuminate the gist of it.

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My tech is pretty locked down because I work in engineering, so probably not much info there. I do apologize for any strife or traumas, but it had to be done. Frankly, these parasites simply had it coming. He rips on the healthcare system and how large United was and and how life expectancy in America is not what he hoped it would be. And then he goes on to say something interesting.

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And this guy, Brian Thompson, was totally self-made, pulled himself up, got himself to the top of the insurance world. The killer accused is from enormous privilege, tons of dough, the family owned country clubs, radio stations, health facilities, went to some Tony Boy's school for 40 grand a year, valedictorian, UPenn, Ivy League, all the advantages, all the breaks.

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Obviously, the problem's more complex, but I don't have the space. And frankly, I don't pretend to be the most qualified person to lay out the full argument. He says, many people have illuminated the corruption, the greed. And then he writes, evidently, I am the first to face this with such brutal honesty.

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There's a New York Post report out today that, no, two days ago it hit, talking about how Bobby Kennedy's affecting this race between Harris and Trump. And it's very telling. They're looking at some recent polling and saying that, take Arizona. Trump leads Kamala Harris by one point in Arizona and Bobby Kennedy there taking 5%.

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So, I mean, important enough that he could definitely sway that race in Michigan. Yes. Showing Trump. It's basically tied 45 to 44. Kennedy drawing 4 percent of the vote. Nevada, another nail biter, saying Trump leads Harris. They are 43 to 42. 6% behind Bobby Kennedy. North Carolina, 47 to 44 in Trump's favor, 2% backing RFKJ. So it is really interesting how tight it is.

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Pennsylvania, Harris leads Trump by two points. And Wisconsin, she leads him by four points. Kennedy's at 4% and 3% respectively. So the This guy, he may not have the votes that he had maybe six months ago when he was polling more like 11%, but he truly could swing this election if the people getting ready to vote for him did what he asked them to do and voted for, let's say in this case, Trump.

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I share your concerns about what's happening with the environment and the toxins and the food supply and all that. And I, it's funny, Tucker, you'll laugh because I, so I recently decided that I was going to stop getting pedicure. Like I get a pedicure, but I don't get toe polish. I don't get toenail polish. And I'm like that, you know, I don't want the top. Would you look at me?

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Would you look at the number of toxins I have on me right now in my hair? Not to mention the Botox. What a charlatan I am. But, you know, it's like around the edges, Tucker, we do what we can to try to minimize the toxins coming in. That's totally right. That is where I draw the line.

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This is probably something they won't be expecting. Thank you, Lumen, for sponsoring this episode. You and I are very similar. I feel like you're kind of a four and I'm a six on the ideological scale. We have a lot of overlap, but you're definitely still going to vote Democrat and I'm definitely going to vote Republican.

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This is one of his favorites. I mean, for sure, this is, he's come on the show many times and I've argued with him about why he doesn't pick up my favorite culture issues and he tells me what his favorite issues are. And that's important too. You know what I mean? What he's pushing, he's right. Nobody else is really talking about.

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And so it would be fascinating to see him come into a Trump administration with his unique views and experience. I mean, he made his bones as an environmental lawyer Yes. And he's a true expert on that stuff. And I think Trump would listen to him on the things that he really is an expert on. And maybe we would have a different approach on some of this stuff. So we'll know soon.

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I think it would be a great move for him. Well, we got 24 hours or so to figure it out. Okay. I got to talk to you. So much has happened since you last came on. J.D. Vance became Trump's running mate. I also heard you had something to do with that. That is brilliant. And I totally support that move.

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I know some Republicans are still they have their noses in a joint, but hopefully they're seeing what a great pick he was now when he's so deftly handling the media. He's everywhere. Last night he was in five different You know, and meanwhile, Tim Walz will only go in front of the golden microphone with her, as you say, not even real people.

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So what do you make, though, of the media pile on against J.D. started with an interview he gave to you a couple of years ago or with a childish cat lady? Right. Comment. Nobody wanted to report the context, you know, a snarky remark. But, you know, we went back and played the whole thing. context of the original remarks that he'd made, what you guys were discussing. Nobody does that though.

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So now they've demonized this guy as a woman hater, even though all his major role models and mentors and the people, the loving people in his life have been women. And as just a, he hates IVF, even though he's on record as saying he's pro IVF, he's against the, like all the stuff that they've been doing to him has been particularly nasty. So what do you think of it?

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But there's enough commonality to make us shake our heads yes when the other one speaks a lot.

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And honestly, Tucker, why is he so obsessed with transing children, making it possible for them to separate from their parents and have their body parts chopped off? Hello.

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I got it. When you say creepy, I just there's something wrong with that guy.

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And so there's another thing. There's another thing about Tim Walz that hasn't gotten as much airtime. And it's true. He actually did remove they were coming up with the Minnesota human rights law and revising it, renewing it. You know, this class is protected. You can't discriminate against these people and you can't discriminate against gays and lesbians. And the law had said, to be clear,

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pedophiles get no protection under this law. Pedophiles do not fall under the definition of a protected class. And they removed that language. They removed that language under Tim Walz. that the pedophiles, so it made it more ambiguous. Now, some of the LGBTQ community said, well, we removed that because we don't want to be associated with it.

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We don't need to say that right after you're talking about gay people. We shouldn't even be in the same breath as pedophiles, but it did make it more ambiguous. And some objected saying, why would we take this out and make it less clear that we're not trying to protect pedophiles? In any event, it remained out and Tim Wall signed that bill. I'm not saying he's a pedophile.

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I'm just saying you don't hear about this stuff in the mainstream media because they're so determined to tell us he's our dad.

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Tell us about mental toughness and how your dad made sure you had it.

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And before we officially say goodbye forever to 2024, we do want to look back at some of the memorable moments that we had on the show together with you guys this year with some familiar friends and those who made their first appearance on the program. There was a feisty and fun and interesting interview with Bill Maher back in May.

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So this is the difference between you and virtually everybody. I mean, I remember talking to some Navy SEALs about this and that's how they get through training. Like, I don't feel the pain. I don't feel the lactic acid. I tried that at my very next workout and it was not true.

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This brings me to something I've always wanted to ask you. So my audience knows I used to be on the wrong side of this whole issue. You know, and I played clips of myself at NBC feeding into all of this. You know, I was still in the mindset of be compassionate. It's a very small group. They're very badly bullied and using the pronouns, even when I launched the show.

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Not so much on the other side, but on the pronouns I was still using.

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That was a big decision for me to turn on the pronouns naturally. And, you know, like you, there have been so many women who have inspired me. You're one of them. But Kelly J. Keene, Helen Joyce, Abigail Schreier's book, there's just been all these other great women who were to this party nice and early and have been waving the flag saying, hold on, hold on, hold on. J.K.

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Rowling, how brave she's been, all of it. But I always wanted to ask you about when you were swimming and Leah Thomas, you found out you're going to have to swim against him. So how did your mind work at the time to say, I'm going to do it?

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I'm not going to defend the election denialism. I'm not one of those people who believes that.

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How about my daughter not going into a locker room and seeing a man's penis?

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And I mean, how about young men on college campuses getting due process when they get accused falsely of rape?

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And that it was very hard for you to say anything about it as the competitors. They knew what would happen to you. Of course.

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But very few have said it, right? Paula Scanlon spoke out. You, Penn Swimmer, you spoke out. But almost no one else that I know of.

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Some shocking stuff in that Old Testament. Yeah. If you go that way.

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You're like, that's not on the drop down menu of message manager. I know.

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A lot of people said it. A lot of people say, but look, I agree with you that the majority of the Republican Party doesn't believe that. But I do think there's a difference between it was stolen, you know, the nonsense with Dominion voting machines and all that versus it wasn't fair. What wasn't fair? Oh my, don't get me started. What wasn't fair?

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I know what you're saying. My audience knows I've been having a not unrelated struggle on that exact score.

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Yeah, yeah. I'm Catholic, lifelong Catholic, and I started the process of having my first marriage annulled. And instead of like bringing me closer to God or setting me in a path that I thought would land well, it really has kind of alienated me. And it's caused a bit of a crisis of faith, you know, like who are these middlemen I have to go through in order to have a clean relationship with God?

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That doesn't make any sense to me. I think God loves me and God sees me in a loving marriage with three wonderful kids who have two great parents who are in love and he's thrilled and he will accept me into his kingdom when it's all said and done. And if he doesn't, it's certainly not going to be because I didn't get a paper.

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I got a paper divorce from Dan, but I didn't get an annulment from a priest, you know, and then Mary dug in a Catholic church. It doesn't make any sense to me. So that's sort of where I am right now. I'm still wrestling with it. I got tons of great feedback.

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How about the suppression of the Hunter Biden left-back story? Just for one.

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By the way, thank you to my audience because so many thoughtful emails on it, you know, from Catholic listeners, but also just Christian listeners who don't believe in that, you know, middleman thing either. I haven't resolved it.

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And so... So how do you feel now? Do you feel a difference physically, emotionally now versus during the Chinese trial balloon period, which was dark?

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There are polls that show some 10 to 12 percent of the electorate says they would have changed their mind had they seen it, had they known about it.

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Amen. God bless you. Thank you so much. I saw you on The View yesterday where they were trying to zero in on you and Biden and this presidential race and those ladies really, really, really wanted you to say that you endorse him. You didn't want to do it, but eventually you admitted, okay, it's kind of a binary choice here.

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I mean, it's basically a binary choice and that you're not going to vote for Trump. So why wouldn't you just be explicit about it? I wondered about the hesitation.

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Nobody. You're talking about yourself. I'm telling you, there are data to show people did care. They said they would change their vote.

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Yes, they were really pressing you. They were like, do Biden a solid. They wanted you to go to your audience and say, vote for Biden. And it was very strange. Like, you know, you've got some magic wand that's going to turn this thing if you just say, I endorse. Can I ask you about third parties? Would you consider RFKJ?

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Do you think that there is more pressure on you to, quote, endorse because you're black and there's a presumption that you have some influence with black voters who not by huge margins, but by some margins are migrating from the Democrat to the Republican Party or at least from Biden to Trump?

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I mean, it wasn't about Hunter Biden's man parts. It was about the scandal of his corruption and his dad's corruption. Bill, I used to think that that Hunter Biden was a hot mess and Joe Biden was embarrassed by him, but had to deal. Now I really think he was doing Joe Biden's bidding. Joe Biden is the bad guy who sent his drug-addled son out there to collect money. That's what the laptop shows.

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In the book, you write about your background. You grew up pretty poor in a single wide trailer and spending most of your time running around through the woods and had a very hardworking mom, had a more complicated relationship with your dad. Did you ever think that that kid who was learning how to catch a rattlesnake in his spare time would...

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be in the position now where it's like your magic words of I endorse this candidate would be so important, right, to political TV shows and pundits.

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You know, I think I read the book and I really enjoyed it. And I think what makes you special is your extreme ability to be introspective, reflective about your life, to keep challenging yourself, to keep changing, keep growing. And you're very, very honest about

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what you perceive as your own shortcomings, whether it was early on in your marriage, something you addressed, whether it was the life lessons you took from your dad and your uncle and you're sort of growing up, which you realized as an adult, weren't so great, or even right down to, we don't have to get into it, but like the size of certain man parts that you just like Howard Stern style, put it out there, Charlemagne.

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Tucker Carlson's newsmaking interview during the Democratic National Convention on the eve of RFK Jr. 's endorsement of Donald Trump. And also my first sit down ever. with Riley Gaines. I also want to bring you one of the interviews I thought about for weeks and months after it happened with Sean Ryan. Oh, that was the beginning of a beautiful friendship. Love this guy. What a year he's had too.

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All right, I've got to read you this because my fourth grade boy was at an end of year ceremony just two days ago. And my husband and I went and their fourth grade teacher read to this class of boys the following poem, which speaks exactly to what you're saying. I cried. I'm not going to lie. You're a dad. You can be able to relate. But it's called That Guy in the Glass. It's by Dale Wimbrow.

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And it goes as follows. When you get what you want in your struggle for self and the world makes you king for a day, then go to the mirror and look at yourself and see what that guy has to say. For it isn't your mother, brother or friends whose judgment you must pass. The person whose verdict counts most in your life is the one staring back at the glass.

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You can go down the pathway of years receiving pats on the back as you pass, but your final reward will be heartache and tears if you cheated that guy in the glass. That's exactly what you're saying. That's a theme of your book in some ways.

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See, I don't disagree with you on that. You're not going to get me to say it was a great thing the way Trump behaved.

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It's it's something you've worked at. You've cultivated. I you talk in the book about the therapy you've been through all the way down to I don't know if this didn't exactly come from your therapist, but you have a spiritual guru in your life as well. And the tree hugging, you're a tree hugger, but not exactly in the Green New Deal sense in a different kind of way. Yeah.

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I disagree. I know. That's projection by you because I look at Joe Biden.

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I know you say in the book, if you, if you're feeling self-conscious about hugging a tree of actually hugging a tree, putting your face up against the tree, start small, maybe just sit with your back up against the tree. So people don't think you're crazy, but you could kind of graduate to a full five minute hug of a tree and it actually could be transformative.

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That's such a beautiful way of dealing with anxiety, which you admit you have dealt with for years versus just taking a pill, which is what the medical community will push on you these days.

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So how did you make it so big in radio and now podcasting too with the kind of anxiety that you suffer from? And as you were growing up, you talk about how it was very much social anxiety. How did you get over that? How do you deal with that to this day?

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You're misstating my argument. You're misstating my argument. Hunter Biden just now on the laptop was brought up as evidence of how the election was not fair. He's not a reason necessarily to not vote for Joe Biden. The reason not to vote for Joe Biden is his policies.

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I am too, but it's usually that guy over there is going to come over here and talk to me. It's not about the ceiling fans.

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I never linked social anxiety to the hatred of small talk. I have to say I too hate small talk and have a fair amount of social anxiety, not anxiety in the regular lane, but social anxiety. And I had never linked the two. This is actually an insightful thought that one is causing the other. I'm Megyn Kelly, host of The Megyn Kelly Show on Sirius XM.

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Oh, it's amazing. And you are so generous and kind to be giving me any credit when you truly deserve actual credit for getting Donald Trump elected. I mean, truly, you're one of a handful of five that really made the difference. And we need look no further than the youth vote. That wasn't the... exclusive reign of your influence. But man, when have young people come out for the Republican?

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I mean, like never. And especially in today's day and age where he's been totally demonized all over TikTok and the sources of information that they use. But you reached beyond I mean, obviously, there's not that many people voting in this election. I mean, the number of views of your videos going out onto these college campuses, you know, challenging them, saying, go ahead.

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Like, why are you voting for her? Let's walk through it. That would go viral every time. We have to look at some of them because, like I said, it's just so fun right now. Here's one woman who was very much determined to believe that Donald Trump is a racist. And here's Charlie dismantling her. Sought to.

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Wow. Truer words were never spoken. How many exchanges do you think you had like that on college campuses?

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I just, I mean, you keep saying sort of I'm nuts because I don't see the difference between the elephant and the mouse. And I'm telling you, I identify them differently than you do. Hillary Clinton, of course, is the original election denier. I'm sure you voted for her in 16. Well, she's not an election denier. She absolutely was the OG election denier.

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It's incredible. I mean, no one's really paid that much attention to them before. It's one of those things where Republicans have always assumed they're not gettable. And then along comes Charlie Kirk. I mean, I don't mean to go totally biblical on you, but I really feel like this is destiny. And I've been thinking about you this past week so much because I know we talked about this in 2016.

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You were like Don Jr. 's assistant. You were a help. helping him with bags.

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It's incredible. Okay, so this is what made me think of you, among other things, the obvious. I know you saw this clip. Her disgusting, gross elitism and her complete out-of-touch nature with respect to the rest of the world. Sonny Hostin goes on The View.

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and decides now would be a great time to dump all over the so-called uneducated, not non-college educated, the uneducated, which is what you are in Sonny Hostin's view, including you, Charlie Kirk, because he's conflating, right? People who didn't go to college with people who are uneducated. We've got to look at the clip and then I need your reaction.

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And then spent the next four years saying he was illegitimate. He was an illegitimate president. She...

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OK, it's amazing. She's specifically there referring to the women. But of course, it's the non-college educated men as well who voted for Donald Trump and the nerve of this woman to whom the country has given so much to try to dump on people who didn't go to college. Look at you. Look at your achievements. How do you like the so-called uneducated now, Sonny?

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By the way, Sonny Hostin, I think, went to Notre Dame. Her son's at Harvard. Her daughter's at Cornell. She's married to the Ivy League. And that's why she looks down on everyone else as a bunch of stupid losers who didn't vote the right way because they're not as smart as she is. I spent many years across from Sonny Hostin on the set of Bill O'Reilly. She is not as smart as she thinks she is.

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In fact, I defy you to show me one debate we ever had that she won. There isn't one. So I'm not done with the Charlie Kirk homage. Oh boy. We put together a little bit of you on your college tour, just so the audience can see some of the hard work you were doing. Let's play Sot One.

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All right, and two points on that, Charlie. So we had a bunch of kids from my son's high school here with me in studio on election night. And, you know, maybe like, whatever, 15 of them. And they were all Trump supporters. There was no screening. Like, we're only taking the Trump supporters, but that just happened to be how it worked out. And that third point, war... was a big one for all of them.

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They're actually really worried about this neocon strain in the Democrat Party because they're the ones who are going to have to go fight it. And so you were tapping into exactly the right thing. And then one other cute point. My kids are in school all day and therefore do not listen to my show every day. They listen to it here and there and they get clips on social media.

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Now she knows she has to because of what she came out that night. She conceded the election.

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And we were talking this week about who I had coming on today and I told them, Charlie Kirk. And my... My son and my daughter, she's 13, he's 15, go, you know Charlie Kirk? I'm like, yes, I know Charlie Kirk. Yes. Could we meet Charlie Kirk? I'm like, I think I could arrange it at some point. But that's how young, you're like a 13-year-old girl. She's seen your clips. She's been influenced by you.

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They watched you on that show. Where do they surround you when you debate all the people? Jubilee. jubilee they watched you there i mean you you're making a huge difference not just in today's voters but in the next up and coming ones who are going to be voting four years from now charlie it's huge i do feel there's something divine going on you were chosen for some reason

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Correct. And then spent the next four years trying to convince us it was not legitimate. Just saying, look, it's not the same as Trump. What Trump did was far more severe. I'm not going to deny that, but don't try to tell me that Hillary Clinton wasn't an election denier and Jamie Raskin and a whole host of Democrats who are now in prominent positions on Capitol Hill.

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Doesn't make it great what Trump did, but they don't have clean hands either.

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It's amazing just the right combination of recognizing what the issues were as created by the Democrats and then getting in there and doing the work to exploit them to reach out to these kids to say, let me let me give you the proper framework for it. You know, I mean, I feel like that's half of what I do on this show.

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Let me give you the framework for what's being done to you right now, because it is. they just take out their fire hose and they, they train it on you. And most people are just like on their heels, getting completely pummeled by the fire hose of information about what terrible people they are and why they have to believe boys can become girls or whatever your issue is.

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And it does help to have somebody like you go on and say, Let me put in perspective what you're feeling, like the stuff about the anxiety. That's not normal. You don't have to live like this.

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This has been done to you. I do want to show you something that's happening on college campuses, a few things. But before I move on to that, this is worth playing. At the moment, Trump announced or that it was announced that Trump won SOT3 and Charlie's reaction.

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That is emotional to watch. I share your feeling, Charlie. I felt it that night, too.

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Go look up the immigration rates, illegal immigration rates for 2020, for 19 to 20.

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We had Charlemagne the God on for a lengthy interview earlier in the year. And then to close this out, Charlie Kirk. He came on the Friday after the election, finally able to exhale after all the work he and his team put in to help Trump reclaim the White House. That was a great one. Enjoy, and we'll be back tomorrow with the conclusion to our True Crime Christmas series.

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Well, that's what's so aggravating. We can accomplish it. We can we can stop what's happening at the southern border. We just won't under Joe Biden. And he keeps pretending like he has no agency on it, but he does have agency. There are a lot of executive orders he could do just like Trump did. He won't. And you know why?

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Don't you think that's what's happening to him on the trans issue, too, which is my big issue that I mentioned off the front?

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Special Counsel Robert Hurst said he'd committed felonies, but he wouldn't indict him because he was a well-meaning elderly man with a poor memory. He couldn't get a conviction in front of a jury.

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That's why he didn't get charged with obstruction. But Trump has two classified documents, pieces to his case. One is you had them. And the second is you obstructed justice when we demanded them back. So, OK, against Biden, you don't get charged with obstruction.

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You're asking me why I see it differently than you do. The contest between the two of them.

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Multiple. Many. No, I'm talking about one person. Okay.

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That's very funny. You're taking me back to my childhood with that reference. But why can't the difference be one actually had the ability to declassify documents and keep them because he'd been the president and one didn't because he should have been looking at documents only in a skiff while a sitting U.S. senator.

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And clearly he stole classified documents that he wasn't entitled to and never had the ability to declassify them.

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I'm not like that, Bill. I care about facts. I practiced law for 10 years. I want to get the cases right. The reports are that you and Don Jr. and maybe one other have been working behind the scenes to convince RFKJ that there's no path forward for him in this particular race, which is, I mean, whether you tried that or not, that appears to be the case.

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And that he should drop out and endorse Donald Trump and potentially get a role in his administration. He has announced that he's going to be making an announcement on Friday. And when asked about this, he just refused to confirm or deny for now, but did say, I'm not going to say anything about Donald Trump when asked to condemn some of Trump's comments on climate change.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. Today, we're going to take a break from politics to talk about a very important topic. Chill out about the tariffs and markets. We're going to check in on them another day.

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By the way, remiss if we didn't mention they also fund our lawmakers.

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No, there was an update today. Hold on. Before it came to air, this just happened. Yeah. We're trying to get Cali means and RFKJ are trying to get, um, to make it such that people cannot use food stamps to buy soda, you know, to try to encourage our, our poorest Americans when they need food stamps to use them for high nutrition foods and not the worst of the worst.

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And tooth and nail, the soda companies are fighting this. It's worth something like $60 billion a year to them. And this just happened in Arizona where, um, There was a bill to remove soda from the things you could buy with food stamps, with SNAP. And they voted against it. And the bill failed to make it out of the Health and Human Services Committee in the Arizona legislature by a vote of 6-6.

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And who cast the deciding vote against it? A Republican, Ralph Heap, voted against it alongside the Democrats. By the way, not for nothing, but here is, I think we have Callie Means. Yeah, here's Callie Means reacting to that and sat one.

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Last I checked, J.B. Pritzker is pretty rich and he's morbidly obese by anyone's standards.

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Okay, can we just start with that? What is functional medicine? Because it's not the same as like traditional medicine.

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This is the part of the conversation where I just want to open up a bag of Doritos. I was like, I give up. I give up. I can't. Like, there's no winning, right? We're probably inhaling enough microplastics to kill us right now. You know, it's like, by the way, that was another thing I learned in preparation for today. The average person, is it here?

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The average person now today has, this is from a, it was on the, it was in the New York Times today. on microplastics. The human brain samples from 2024 had nearly 50% more microplastics than brain samples from 2016. They estimate there are five bottle caps worth of plastic in the average human body. Five bottle caps? Can't spare it. So it's overwhelming. The farming, let's just start there.

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That's what Casey and Callie have been saying. We need regenerative farming, which I don't really totally understand. But it seems like it's going to be really hard to make the farmers do that and really expensive. And when I sat in on those RFKJ confirmation hearings, even the Republican senators seemed to be a little like, I'm chugging for you, except when it comes to the farmers.

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I was just thinking about wind turbines, which many of us absolutely hate.

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Most environmentalists hate them. Kill the birds, yeah. Yeah, they kill the birds, they kill the land. It's like they're full of toxins. The blades are as long as a football field. Each blade is as long as a football field and several tons. And you get up to hundreds of them in a wind farm.

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Anyway, we have a summer home along the Jersey Shore and they're about to get pummeled by one of these wind farms and it's just so disgusting. Thank God for Trump for stopping most of them in progress. I don't think that order was going to help us. But in any event, all the money that Obama and Joe Biden have been funneling into wind and solar energy, which is very inefficient. It costs so much.

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It requires so much land and toxins and reliance on the Chinese and so on. Why don't why don't we funnel that into American farmers to help them switch over to regenerative 100 percent?

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By the way, my husband wrote a book on Rudolph Diesel, who invented the diesel engine. They should be using diesel engines and powering them with corn. That's a place we could use good corn oil or vegetable oil. They can power the engines of the tractors.

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That's how the diesel engine was born. Okay, so regenerative farming is definitely one of the things. Now, what happens when the average patient comes in to see you? You do the blood tests. And where do you start? For the average listener, what are the top five? Because they don't know how to read their blood tests. I consider myself a relatively sophisticated consumer in this department.

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I don't know how to read my blood tests. I know you're supposed to look at the HDL and the LDL, and beyond that, I don't really know anything. So what should the average person be looking at? What are the most important things?

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I mean, like you have all the numbers now after you get your blood tested through function, but like now what do you do?

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I heard you talking with someone, and forgive me if you weren't the one with this story, but I think it was you, talking about a kid's handwriting.

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I don't know, it's just so strange that a mother who would be taking all those doctors and having... Well, she finally got to me.

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And then she heard about- It doesn't even occur to you that maybe it's nutrition. I think for a lot of people, it doesn't even occur to you. Especially with a child who you think can process anything no matter what you do.

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I was doing some of these things like a year ago. I was getting my life in order physically and in every way. And the woman who was advising me was like, we should get you a test for the heavy metals in your body. And my doctor was like, no. He refused. It was actually something he would have had to order, I guess. And he's like, we're not doing that.

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You know what I'm thinking about right now? After we had, did you watch that round table that they had in the US Senate with Ron Johnson and Callie and Casey were there? The Atlantic did a big write-up of it after and called it the woo-woo caucus. They were so dismissive and disgusting about these ideas being discussed in a serious way.

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And that's what we're up against is that you start to say like, maybe we can head off schizophrenia with diet. And they say, I'm out, you're crazy.

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Like, he was not open-minded to it at all. Some of the other stuff, he was like, okay, because I had mold in my apartment or my house at the beach, and he's like, I guess, you know, you can get tested for mold. But then he's like, do you really think it's an issue?

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He was like, if mold were killing people, everybody who lived in the jungle would be dead a lot sooner than people who live in the desert, and they're not. So... I've been like pulled between these two, you know, because functional medicine makes so much sense to me. And yet my like very like no nonsense traditional doctor is like, no.

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Today, let's talk about the fact that we all have nothing if we don't have our health. And we have the perfect guest today. to discuss how you can take control of your wellness and life. If you're into Maha, this is the show for you. If you're into living, this is the show for you. Dr. Mark Hyman is a practicing family physician and a leader in functional medicine.

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We did this with- Honestly, I have the idea. We should take all the DEI instructors who are about to lose their jobs and train them in nutrition and send them into all communities and educate people on how to do well.

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I need it just to make food, period. Nevermind healthy food. All right, we're going to take a quick break and we will be back with Dr. Mark Hyman after this, plus a special function health discount for our audience. That's exciting. Stand by. You might've heard about this new brand called XXXY Athletics. They are the only athletic brand that is standing up for women's sports.

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With RFKJ, who I know is a personal friend. Callie and Casey Means, Callie in particular, like a big advisor to him. That's great. He's totally on board with all this. Totally. And then you mentioned Dr. Bredesen. He's the Alzheimer's doctor. I mean, he's an expert in Alzheimer's and dementia. He's been on the show a couple of times. And he's been saying, you don't have to get Alzheimer's.

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It was founded by former elite gymnast and longtime Levi's executive, Jennifer Say, the first gymnast to speak out about the abuse in women's gymnastics. Then she pushed back on lockdowns and closed schools during COVID. And for that, she was canceled by corporate America. Nice. So she started her own brand.

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It's called XXXY Athletics, and it is the only athletic brand that actually knows men cannot become women. And it's not a gimmick. They make world-class products from the softest sweats to performance wear, including leggings, bike shorts, dresses for golf, and tennis and workout tees that hold up to the toughest workouts. Check them out at thetruthfits.com or xx-xyathletics.com.

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Use the code MK20 for 20% off your order. Support brands that align with your values. Go to thetruthfits.com and don't forget the code MK20. We have Dr. Mark Hyman with me for the full show today. He's the co-founder of Function Health. And I want to tell you that you can go to functionhealth.com slash Megan or use the code Megan100. Is it slash A? I'm reading in the prompter.

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Is that a... Oh, so it's not just slash Megan. It's functionhealth.com slash A slash Megan. All right, so you have two slashies in there. Slash A slash Megan. like Function Health, on Megan. Functionhealth.com slash H slash Megan. And that will get you $100 off your Function membership, or you can just use the code Megan100 on checkout to get it. So, Doc, what does that do for people?

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You can do things in your life to prevent Alzheimer's. But the so-called traditional community looks at him as like, oh, you know, not, I won't say snake really, but like, yeah, exactly. Fringe. And like, you can't listen to him. I first got introduced to him by Maria Shriver, who was having fun when she was on the Today Show. She's very into Alzheimer's. Absolutely. Anyway.

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They give you like a printout of this is what we, you're high on this and this is what you should look into.

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You're not dispensing medical advice there, but you are giving people tools to go to their own.

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Well, this leads me to my other important question, which is how do people find a functional medicine doctor?

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This makes it exciting to go to med school in today's day and age. This is a way of truly healing people and helping people get better as opposed to just, you're going in, you're going to be governed by the insurance companies. You've been upper limited on how much you can make and how much you can help.

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And nurses too. I mean, nurses can do this. There's so many people who can do this who, you know, short of getting an MD, which would be like more accessible and more affordable for a lot of people too. So you've mentioned it several times, the keto diet. I've had it mentioned to me many times. I don't understand it still. No, I think I've looked it up and it says it's more like fat.

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Yeah, yeah. She loves Alzheimer's. Yeah, but that's what's happening right now. In the same way we saw doctors who were like, you might not wanna get your seventh COVID vaccine booster, who got dismissed by people like Fauci as fringe, Jay Bhattacharya as focus protection, that's fringe.

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How does this, how does this jive with the old eat food, Mostly plants.

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Now we're having functional medicine doctors looked as fringe, but I think there's a different F word and it's future.

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Why? Is that much fat bad for somebody who has heart disease in the family?

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What about the thought of mixing the keto diet with Mediterranean? Because that's the other one that everybody loves Mediterranean.

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And again, so you're saying, but also saturated fat. So like, well, that would be like red meat, like the fat that you get. I'm trying to think, what's good for you saturated fat? I know bad for you saturated fat is in the ultra processed foods.

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You know how many things call for that, by the way? Having like a daughter who's in eighth grade, every time she has to make brownies or cookies for the school, you know, all of it wants actual vegetable oil. And like, she's like, I don't know if you can use olive oil. I'm like, you're using it.

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I mean, yeah, it's fine, actually. It tastes a little different, I confess, but it's healthier, I think.

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Do you see those memes online where they show Americans in the 1900s? First of all, they're well-dressed. And second of all, they're all slim. All of them are slim. It's very rare to see an obese person, even in the United States 100 years ago. Not even 100 years ago.

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And you can tie this to ultra processed foods and to the demonization of fat and elevation of sugar.

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I've heard you talk about this, too. You go to a therapist today, whether it's you or a child, the first thing they want to do is prescribe you something. They want to get your college-age kid hooked on a drug like that.

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They've helped a lot of people. There's no explanation of, no one would ever ask, what are you eating? No one.

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So, I mean, if you're feeling depressed or you're feeling anxiety, Rule number one should probably be take a look at what you're eating.

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Can we talk about red meat? There's a lot of people who are on this carnivore diet. There's hardcore red meat all the time.

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We've got a good friend who's Argentinian and he's like, every single member of my family had LDLs through the roof.

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And they lived into their low hundreds. And all they did was eat steak.

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But what's, I mean, when I was growing up in like the 80s, they were like, I remember because I was a young aerobics instructor and my fellow aerobics instructors were shaming themselves for having meat more than once a week. And I was like, oh, I didn't even know that was bad.

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And the sugar, you know, I have to, I just noticed this the other day, but for example, my kids love ice cream.

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I was just looking at those. You can get those like dark chocolate bars at Whole Foods. I like the one that's like mint blackout. In any event, if it's over 90%, you know, cacao, which is going to mean it has less sugar. You can have four bars. squares of that chocolate, which is a decent size. If you're watching this on YouTube, it's like about this big.

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Maybe a little smaller, but about around there. And it's only five grams of sugar. If you really have a Jones for something sweet after dinner, you could have that for five grams, or you could have a big bowl of ice cream, which might have 30, even more, grams of sugar in there.

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We'll talk about what that means. He is a 15-time New York Times bestselling author, the host of the Dr. Hyman Show podcast, and the founder of Function Health, a resource that gives you the tools to own your own health. Dr. Hyman was on with us back in February, 2023 on episode 498. Tariff wars, stubborn inflation, no wonder gold has been routinely hitting all-time highs.

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Um, Our executive producer has a third grader. He has two kids, but one of them is in third grade. And he has a question I bet a lot of our listeners have.

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Which is, what can you pack in a lunch that is healthy for a third grade child? And frankly, for most children, because... You try to send your kid to school with a bagged lunch or send your kid on a field trip with a bagged lunch.

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You know, and I too don't know where to begin. It's so hard. They're not going to eat a salad, first of all.

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He's not talking about that. He's not talking about yogurt that's not- sugary.

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Yeah. But you can, you know what? I have this almost every day for breakfast. I have, I'll either get nonfat or 2%, uh, the phage Fahe yogurt. Uh, Greek yogurt. Can I get the full fat? I don't know. I don't want to, you know, I'm a little worried. And I'll put like blueberries in there and I'll put some chia seeds in there and I'll put some hemp seeds in there.

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I'm just, I don't even know why I'm just told those are good for you. They're protein, I guess.

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And sometimes I'll sprinkle just a little low sugar granola in there, which you can get with no seed oils on it. You got to look for that, but not too much because you don't want to like completely overload it with, you know, sugary products or whatever. But It's so good. It tides me over for hours and I love it and I know it's good for me.

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Okay, but let's give them an actual possibility that could go in there.

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You can't do chicken nuggets, can you? Or can you do like the organic ones that you get at a- Yeah, you could do that.

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What else, Steve? What else do we need to know? Hold on. See if there's a follow-up. What kind of meat? Yeah. What kind of meat in the sandwich?

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Like a chicken breast that you cooked yourself the night before in avocado oil.

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Okay. It's just so much harder than it should be. You know, it's like-

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Yeah. I don't know. Like even in the summers, I'm sure there are a lot of parents out there who can relate to this. The summers, the family eating goes to hell. The kids daily eating because they're all over the place. You know, our kids go to this day camp and then they swing by the ice cream place that has a great menu, like a diner kind of place.

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And they're all eating just terrible food all day long. Yeah. I don't even know what the alternative is. You know, like without hiring a chef to live in your house and come up with healthy options for all three meals, you know, they'll, they're eating bagel with cream cheese in the morning and then they're eating like a cheese steak for, for lunch.

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How do you like RFKJ's chances of succeeding in this job, given all these forces?

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I hear Cali means drop it all the time. He's like, you're going to tell the Maha moms out there that you won't take sugar out? It's great. He's using it and he should because the Maha mom thing is real. They're out there and they're pissed off about what's been done. I'm 100% Maha mom.

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happily and proudly because I'm pissed off about what the, what these industries have done to me, to my family, how hard they've made it for us all, how expensive they've made it for us. Why?

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Most people can't afford to shop at Whole Foods. It's very expensive.

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Back to RFKJ, they definitely want to destroy him. And so one of my feelings is for the next four years, hopefully he decides to keep the job that long. we need to be super wary of hit pieces on him because the odds are they've been planted by one of his detractors just in the news.

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I see this, I call it like the queen's medicine. You know, how did the queen live to be, you know, her mid nineties? How did the queen mom live to be 101 or two? Because they had personal care. That's right. That was looking at them all the time. That's right. On this level, you know, not just like an annual.

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Now they're trying to blame him for this measles outbreak down in Texas, in a community of Mennonites who don't take vaccines and never have long before Bobby Kennedy came on the scene. Yeah. Nevermind became HHS secretary. It's like he went down there out of empathy to this funeral and they're like, you you're to blame.

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But I do wonder, like that kind of story gets amplified and I don't think it's totally organic.

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Is it because he was pushing supplements on his show, like as an advertiser?

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Oh, no, I'm just saying that's the excuse they found to come for him.

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Well, why are pediatricians still pushing the flu vaccine on us? And grown-up doctors, too.

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And honestly, having known some super rich, like mega billionaires in my media career, they all have somebody who's looking at this stuff all the time. I saw this one guy, super billionaire. at this event I went to two years ago. And this is a swanky event. We were there for a few days, put on by another billionaire, but not withstanding billionaire number one had brought all of his food with him.

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Oh, YouTube's leaving our video right now. For real information about vaccines, go to the CDC.

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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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He was at that level where he was being advised at that level on his health. And the reason I'm mentioning this is because all these people who have money or royalty or whatever, they're invested in making sure it's one-on-one care. Someone's looking at their markers, advising them on what they're putting in their body. It's not just like, try to eat better. Get a little exercise.

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Don't smoke or drink so much. It's much more creative. But you're like with functional medicine and with your program too, you can get this without being a billionaire, without being royalty. It's basically 500 bucks a year.

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You see a headline every other day that young people, like people in their 20s, are getting colon cancer at really alarming rates. Is that true? And do you know why?

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What about antibiotics? You know, you were talking about the woman with the messed up microbiome and you mentioned you gave her antibiotics. I thought antibiotics caused a bad microbiome.

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No, we used to joke, my hairstylist and I were joking during the COVID pandemic, if Dr. Fauci would just say there's some Ozempic in those COVID vaccines, everybody would get them.

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Every single woman on earth would be like, I'll take it. I want all my boosters. It's true.

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So, you know, you have to- How hard is it to rebuild the gut after an antibiotics course?

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Okay. I've been taking this shot, not for antibiotics, just because I was, I don't know, everybody says it's supposed to be good for you, of raw, it's like honey, what is it, apple cider vinegar and some lemon. It is the most disgusting. You take it and you're like, oh, is this important?

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But I don't really like all that fermented stuff they say that you should eat, like sauerkraut and pickled this and pickled that. I don't know. I don't like this. I'm not having sardines, and I don't love my vinegar drink, and I don't want to eat a bunch of sauerkraut. I do like the yogurt. But yogurt's good too, right? Can I do that instead of the apple cider vinegar?

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I don't even know how I found that out. I didn't even consider that.

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I don't think mine is organic. I've got to go look at that immediately. I didn't even consider that. Okay, so in sum, we need to detoxify ourselves. We need to detoxify our environment. You mentioned mold. You mentioned lime. All the ultra-processed foods. Buy organic.

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Better safe than sorry. It's almost like you need to get rid of your pantry.

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Yeah, so what you're saying is that my mom serving me wild berry high C with every meal was not exactly the best choice.

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You know, that happened to my husband's good friend on Wall Street when he first started in investment banking. He was eating so poorly. He went to the doctor. This is a guy working in Manhattan. He went to the doctor. They're like, you have scurvy. Have you been on a ship for six months? He's like, no, I've just been at my desk.

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But, you know, I've heard you discuss this on your show where we have what percentage of the population now that's obese?

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Those omega-3s you mentioned, so you can get those in something like fish.

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And then the bad omegas are the sixes, which you can get in like vegetable oil.

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And unfortunately, the average kid has a ton of omega-6s in their potato chips and all this. Yeah. They're not really necessarily balancing them out. And then if you do try to balance them out with seafood or fish, the odds are if you just get it from the grocery store, it's riddled with mercury. That's right. and it may not even be worth the time.

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You have to get like wild caught salmon or like herring. It's the smash fish.

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It has to be wild caught Alaskan salmon, mackerel, anchovies, and sardines.

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Come on. No, no. Have you ever opened up a tin of sardines and actually eaten fish?

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Well, actually, I just heard something interesting because I was taking fish oil capsules for a while since I eat no fish. But then somebody's like, you know, you got to watch that too because be careful who you buy it from.

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Right, because they too could just be getting it from mercury-infested fish. So you're basically taking two mercury capsules every night.

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But anyway, so that's just one of the many lists that you gave that your kids are doing. And I do worry about the kids a lot because you said something that I was like, oh my God, that makes so much sense. Bobby Kennedy's been talking about this too. I cross-examined him for four hours over vaccines. That's part of his resurrection story. And it was great. He was very strong.

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He had answers for all of his critics' questions about him, which is what I was fronting. And one of the things he was saying was, no, I have not maintained that vaccines cause autism, but I think that we need to look at the toxic stew the children are growing up in. as a potential cause of autism.

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And what's in the vaccines, like the extras in the vaccines, like mercury or aluminum, should also be factored into that discussion. Made perfect sense to me. But he listed it for me in this discussion saying, look at all the things that kids are going through that were not present when I was a kid. He was talking about like tics and ADHD, like everywhere.

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Autism spectrum diagnoses all over the place. Exploded, yeah. And so that made perfect sense to me.

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And then I listened more to you and you're even next level with it, I think, because you're like, part of the toxic stew is those potato chips and the soda and the absence of cauliflower and broccoli and kale or any of the cruciferous vegetables that might help absorb some of the terrible shit we're putting in our bodies. The kids, and we're allowing it. I mean, I'm guilty of this too, in part.

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we're allowing the kids to treat their bodies like dumpster fires.

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The only player not in attendance, first baseman Freddie Freeman, absent due to an ankle sprain. And that'll do it for your AM Update. I'm Megyn Kelly. Join me back here for The Megyn Kelly Show, live on SiriusXM Triumph Channel 111 at New East, on YouTube.com slash Megyn Kelly, and on all podcast platforms.

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April 15th is just around the corner. Act now before the IRS acts first. A big win for the Trump administration at the U.S. Supreme Court, which today lifted the injunction on Trump's deportations of suspected Venezuelan gang members, saying the D.C. court where they objected to their removal did not have proper jurisdiction.

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The high court, in a 5-4 decision in which Trump appointed Justice Amy Coney Barrett joined with the three liberals in dissent, found that, as the Trump administration had conceded, the illegals deserve some measure of due process prior to removal, but that those hearings must be held in so-called habeas proceedings, which means before an immigration judge and in the jurisdiction in which the migrants are detained.

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In this case, that's Texas, not Washington, D.C., Therefore, Judge Boasberg did not have the right to hear this case, and his orders trying to stop the deportations and turn those deportation flights around were improper. Bottom line, the Trump administration may continue to summarily remove these suspected gang members under the Alien Enemies Act.

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Individual hearings on the deportations, if at all, will happen in immigration courts where the detainees are held once arrested. The Supreme Court also weighing in on the case of the 29-year-old Salvadorian national the Department of Justice admits was mistakenly deported to El Salvador.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Tuesday, April 8th, 2025, and this is your AM Update. Listen, we've got 50 countries that are burning the phone lines into the White House up. As markets yo-yo in response to President Trump's recently announced tariff strategy, White House officials say dozens of countries are lining up to renegotiate trade deals.

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The high court ruling the government did not have to meet the midnight Tuesday deadline set by a lower court judge to return Kilmar Abrego Garcia. Last week, U.S. District Judge Paula Zinnis ordering the government to return Mr. Abrego Garcia by 11.59 p.m. on Monday. He was in the U.S.

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with protection from being removed to only one country, his home of El Salvador, after an immigration court earlier found a likelihood of danger to him there.

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Judge Zinnes, appointed by President Obama, writing in this case, quote, "...as defendants acknowledge they had no legal authority to arrest him, no justification to detain him, and no grounds to send him to El Salvador, let alone deliver him into one of the most dangerous prisons in the Western Hemisphere." Authorities arrested Mr. Abrego Garcia on March 12th in Baltimore.

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On the 15th, he was deported to El Salvador. He could have been deported elsewhere, just not to El Salvador, given the removal protection he received. ICE officials say Mr. Abrego Garcia was inadvertently included on a flight manifest that should have only included people cleared for deportation to El Salvador. The Trump administration maintains Mr. Abrego Garcia is a gang member.

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In fact, two immigration courts have found evidence to support that. DHS spokeswoman Tricia McLaughlin telling CNN, quote, whether he is in El Salvador or a detention facility in the U.S., he should be locked up. The Supreme Court's Monday decision does not settle the underlying dispute.

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Whether Mr. Abrego Garcia has a right to additional due process before he's deported from the U.S., that battle will play out in the lower courts. Monday, markets swinging wildly throughout the day in response to President Trump's tariff plans. Markets opening to sharp declines, then surging after a false report suggesting Trump would pause his tariffs.

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The Trump administration set to begin direct talks with the Iranian regime over its nuclear ambitions. RFKJ takes media fire amid a deadly measles outbreak. But the reports tend to gloss over one key fact. And the Supreme Court weighs in on two cases in favor of the Trump administration. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update.

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The short-lived rally collapsing soon after the White House called the story fake news. The Dow Jones falling by 349 points, the S&P 500 dropping by 11, both slight drops. The Nasdaq ending the day with a slight gain of 15 points. Top Trump officials hitting the media circuit over the weekend, preparing viewers for the anticipated Monday market madness, reinforcing the president's tariff strategy.

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On Monday, author and historian Victor Davis Hanson adding perspective to the stock market's bounces on The Megyn Kelly Show.

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President Trump further targeting China on Monday with a post on Truth Social reading, quote, If China does not withdraw its 34% increase above their already long-term trading abuses by tomorrow, April 8th, the United States will impose additional tariffs on China of 50%, effective April 9th. If implemented, the new tariffs would bring the total rate on China to 104%.

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Later in the day, the president hosting Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu at the White House. Mr. Netanyahu announcing his country would move quickly to eliminate trade barriers between the U.S. and Israel.

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Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins telling CNN more countries are lining up to make new trade deals with the administration.

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Eric Trump posting on X last week, quote, I wouldn't want to be the last country that tries to negotiate a trade deal with Donald Trump. The first to negotiate will win. The last will absolutely lose. I've seen this movie my entire life.

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While the White House canceled the official press conference with Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu, President Trump invited the press pool into the Oval for an extended Q&A session with Mr. Netanyahu, along with high-ranking U.S. officials, including Vice President J.D. Vance, Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, and National Security Advisor Mike Waltz.

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The IRS is the largest collection agency in the world. And with April 15th fast approaching, it's more aggressive than ever. If you owe back taxes or have unfiled returns, waiting is not an option. April 15th could mark another tax year that has passed you by. So the smart move is to get ahead of it now. But listen, never contact the IRS alone.

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President Trump announcing the administration will engage in direct talks with Iran.

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The Iranian regime declined direct talks on a nuclear deal in late March. What motivated the change of heart? Not yet clear. Iran is the world's largest state sponsor of terrorism, arming and funding groups like Hezbollah and Hamas, all of which carry out attacks against the U.S. or its allies. Relatedly, Secretary Hegseth providing an update on the U.S.

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campaign against the Iranian-backed Houthi rebels.

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Under the Biden administration, the Houthis launched hundreds of attacks on ships traveling through the Red Sea, including U.S. military and merchant vessels. The threat of the Houthis rerouting thousands of ships around Africa, adding thousands of miles and millions of dollars in fuel costs.

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The Trump administration in recent weeks launching a wave of attacks against the group, restoring safe passage to the critical corridor largely relied upon by global trade partners. Coming up, RFKJ takes media fire amid a deadly measles outbreak, though reports tend to gloss over one key fact.

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HHS Secretary RFKJ visiting southwestern states as part of a Make America Healthy Again tour. Axios reporting White House officials urging Secretary Kennedy to take a more public-facing role. The tour coinciding with a measles outbreak largely affecting Texas.

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Over the weekend, Secretary Kennedy visiting a Gaines County, Texas, Mennonite community suffering the loss of two young children due to complications from measles. A six-year-old passing away in February and an eight-year-old last week.

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Secretary Kennedy on Sunday writing on X, quote, in early March, I deployed a CDC team to bolster local and state capacity for response across multiple Texas regions, supply pharmacies, and Texas-run clinics with needed MMR vaccines and other medicines. MMR standing for measles, mumps, and rubella.

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The Post goes on to say, quote, the most effective way to prevent the spread of measles is the MMR vaccine. The media immediately seizing on the Post as an opportunity to smear RFKJ, a longtime critic of childhood vaccine mandates.

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Missing in those reports, critical context. Members of the Mennonite community are largely unvaccinated for religious reasons and have been long before RFKJ became the head of HHS. Many Mennonite families live in tight-knit rural communities. Vaccine rates are significantly lower in these groups across the board, not just for MMR. making outbreaks more likely.

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Of the approximately 500 measles cases in Texas, Gaines County, home to a substantial Mennonite population, accounts for 315. President Trump on Monday hosting the L.A. Dodgers celebrating the 2024 World Series champions. President Trump praising the team in his remarks, calling team manager Dave Roberts, quote, one of the greatest managers ever to wear the Dodger blue.

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Mr. Roberts in 2019 suggesting he would skip. a trip to the Trump White House if the Dodgers won the series, telling the LA Times, quote, we have to win it first, but one trip to D.C. playing the Nationals is plenty for me. The Dodgers did not make the series that year. Mr. Roberts explaining his change of heart to reporters last week, quote, this is not a political thing.

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I'm not going to sit up here and make it political. We're looking forward to celebrating our championship team. Star player Mookie Betts, who skipped a Trump White House meeting in 2019 as a Red Sox player, also in attendance. Mr. Trump making a special shout out.

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If one day you had a daughter, what would you say to her? She came to me and said the person she loved was hurting her. What would you say to her? None of this is your fault. As hard as this choice is, we break the pattern.

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Yeah. And, you know, working in digital. Everyone wants to talk about the clothes, but I wonder if they would ask the men about the clothes. I would. It's not just the women that have the clothes. I feel like the women get the conversation.

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I just really loved those patchwork like jeans that you have. Magnolia Pearl. Yeah. Those are my real life jeans. Yeah, a lot of that is like your stuff. The boots were mine. There's these great Louboutins that are also a close up on them when we're dancing in the bar. Those are mine. I have a few of my husband's shirts and socks randomly in the movie.

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I have some of Gigi Hadid's sweaters in the movie. Yeah, I don't know. There's a lot of my stuff.

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And It Ends With Us is in theaters now. So grab your friends, wear your florals, and head out to see it.

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asking for like my address or my phone number or like my location share. I could just location share you and then we could... So we're making the hot chocolate cookies that Atlas makes for young Lily in our movie, It Ends With Us. You guys, we talked about our movie, not at all. Thanks for joining us. In theaters, August 9th. That's a wrap, guys. We got it.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Welcome to the Megyn Kelly Show. We're going to have Stu Bergier with us in just a minute, but I want to start with this. The Met Gala is officially over. Dead. Done.

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Miller's book provides as follows, quote, "...the black dandy's style is, from the beginning, always simultaneously personal, cultural, representative of the race, and about representation, even as it evaluates norms of racialization, class privileges, gender assignments, and the rules of sexuality in ways similar to that of his European dandy brothers." All clear now? No, no one is.

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Once again, the field was littered with Kardashians. I mean, if you want to lower the quality of your event in one fell swoop, just invite them all, which is what Anna Wintour does every year. From Kim to Kylie to Kendall, take your pick.

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They're there, and their mere presence, whether it's your Met Gala or your fake space launch, will undermine the gravity, shall we say, of your event and the seriousness with which any of us can take it. They're the OG nude fashionistas, though they were clothed last night. Here's Kim in her weird little witch's hat and her incredibly tight outfit, because that's all she ever does.

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But at least she was not showing us, at least last night, her vag. The Holly Berry choice, Stu, I'm sorry, but it marks like a new low. So, okay, Shakira showed us her vag at a Super Bowl a couple of years ago, so did JLo. And now you've got Holly Berry, who's, I mean, truly, I think, accepted as one of the world's most beautiful women. Look at this.

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This is a close-up, forgive me, of the side pube. We've got side pube on the right and the left. And the thing that makes me so upset about this is any woman could do this, all right? Now, by the way, Holly Berry, not for nothing, but she's put on probably about 10 pounds. maybe this wasn't the night to bust out the side pube, but okay, it's fine.

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But does your Lisa think if you brought her to the, let's say radio and television correspondence dinner, that if she showed side pube, she couldn't make a headline or two. Literally every woman listening to me right now. And every man who has a daughter or a wife or a sister knows that if they put their loved one in a side pube dress, they're, they would get attention. They'd get clicks.

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They'd wind up maybe even on the Megyn Kelly show, but not for the right reason. And Holly Berry has some sort of a complex where it's never enough. Her natural gorgeous skin, her natural gorgeous looks, her natural gorgeous breasts for that matter. It's not enough. You've got to go full pube for because everybody has to outdo each other.

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You know, once, once Bianca Sensori has been out there, right? Like that's the new standard or that Emily Roger Towski, whatever her name is, she's half naked all the time. This is the new, and like we lose a little dignity as a society every time one of our actual stars buys into this.

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The whole point is to lose you and sound smarter than you by saying words that are totally empty and meaningless. Dandyism, for those still lost and looking for meaning, is, per the New York Times, quote, a style of elevated dress once imposed upon enslaved people, remade by black Aesthetes. What is an esthete, you ask?

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Chrissy Teigen showed her underwear at the White House Correspondents' Dinner. She was considered a, quote, star who went to that thing a year or two ago. She showed her underwear there. I don't get it. Like there's a time and a place for a sexy photo. I'm not against that. I'm truly not like a prude.

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But it's very weird to choose to show instead of like your shoulders or like some cleavage, some like, you know, tasteful amount of cleavage. to go well beyond that into showing again the side pube, which has now become a new thing. The pandering to the BLM crowd was over the top. May I read you? I mean, this is unbelievable.

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If the GOP did this, Vogue and the New York Times would be apoplectic about it. Listen to the menu that they served last night at what was basically the Black Met Gala.

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Delicacies like papaya piri piri salad, cucumbers with Caribbean green seasoning, Creole chicken with lemon emulsion, BBQ collard greens with bacon, cornbread with a honey curry butter, and a dessert named Bodega Special Cosmic Brownie. I'm sorry, but this is making me uncomfortable. Because the black people like chicken and they like Caribbean green seasoning. The Creole chicken they like.

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They like collard greens with bacon and cornbread. This is like... so the left and a wind court tour can do this kind of pandering. Cause she's, you see, she got a panel of black advisors, all black advisors. Oh, and they want us to know they met at the Apollo theater in Harlem to plan this and she's gotten their imprints due. So it's fine for her to charge $75,000 for some Creole chicken. Yeah.

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and collard greens because she's having the black met gala but you tell me if anybody right of center served that menu at an event meant to honor black americans they'd get fucking killed that's time for forgive me number four we're setting new records here i bring out the best of you vegan

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Why it's a person who has or pretends to have a special appreciation of art and beauty, like that woman who wrote the book and the people at the Met and the people who write at the New York Times, who must be really familiar with the term esthete, A-E-S-T-H-E-T-E, because it sounds like them. In any event, esthetes who remake all of this into a tool of social mobility and self-definition.

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Why does that have to be true? I know, it's the one thing that we have. Why do we get stuck with mayonnaise? Why couldn't we get watermelon? That's better. No, it's delicious and it's healthy. It's just so ridiculous. They want us to know it was a black chef who came up with the menu, so Anna Wintour is not racist. Hands off. But it's just so it's it's five years late. Right.

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Like we're done with this. Blacks, Hispanics, Indians, they're done with this. They all voted for Trump in record numbers because in part they wanted to put a stop to this dividing us by race. Nonsense. It was progress to put him back in office so we can stop doing that. And so Anna Wintour, Wintour so white, literally one of our whitest Americans. I mean, you can't get whiter.

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Decides she's going to be the one to resurrect the pander and really in doing so set us back. Black people appreciate fashion and so do whites, right? And then we have to go back to like how whites, because dandyism, we really dig deep into these articles. It's about how white slave owners made certain slaves dress up in these over-the-top outfits. And so it's like dandyism is an homage to like...

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what they did and then how black people took that and made it their own and found empowerment out of it. But like, everything's got to revolve around the white man, slave owner, our terrible history as a country.

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And we have to be reminded of exactly what, you know, ancestors of nobody's really at this point in the country, other than like 2% of us who are on the Mayflower, um, dead many moons ago.

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It's really unbelievable. And it's over. Okay. But now speaking of totally out of touch leftists posing awkwardly for the camera, did you see the spread? Oh my God. It's unbelievable with all of these leftists in their living rooms. Hold on. I got to find this. Is this in the AM update? Yes. In the powerhouses and they've taken their favorite lefties and photographed.

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It was supposed to be a photograph. Like traditionally they would photograph their living room, like just show off. And as New Yorkers, I mean, I'm not one now, but I have been one for the past 17 years. We all love to see inside of each other's apartments. It's like being on a cruise ship.

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They tend to be smaller and it's interesting to see what people can do with such a small space to make it work and so on. So we're all fascinated by apartments. So showing the living rooms makes some sense, but this year they decided to add the humans in their living rooms. And it's all leftists because it's powerhouses and they wouldn't, why would they feature a conservative powerhouse?

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That's not of any interest to the New Yorker. So they've got the, I mean, again, just least attractive leftists you can find. And on that front, forgive me, but I'm just going to tell the truth. I'm going to start with Ella Emhoff. who they continue to tell us is some sort of a supermodel, I'd like to see the photos. What runway show has she walked in?

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Because what I see is a woman who would never qualify as a supermodel in anybody's book. She might be the living opposite of a Kate Moss or a Paulina Porizkova or a Cindy Crawford, who were the OG supermodels. She looks short, stubby, with large calves and a bunch of tats all over her and strange eyeglasses and hair. in a very weird little living room holding a tiny little dog. So that's her.

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And then there's AOC in her Queens. They want you to know she's in Queens. She's a woman of the people living room. knitting. Cause she's just like us still. She, she lies in her cat on her couch at home. And in between going to the Met gala, remember an address that reads tax the rich as she's hobnobbing with them at $75,000 a plate she knits. So that's relatable. Okay.

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Does anyone understand any of this any better? No, you're not meant to, you dumbasses. You have to go to Harvard to understand what these people are saying, how they speak, and how they code talk. It's all just a dressed up way of saying, by the way, we are pandering to black people because we love black people and that makes us good people. So what did we see last night?

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That's why she needs to be our next president. But my favorite is Al Sharpton. Al Sharpton, well-known race hustler and hoaxer who somehow rehabilitated himself into one of the very serious and esteemed voices on MSNBC, whose photograph is him in his living room with a photo of him in the background.

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As author John Gabriel put it on X, like Al Sharpton, my house only has photos and statues of me plus a little cage for the kids, which is... what it looks like. There's literally a huge photo of himself on the wall behind him. Nothing else than another photo that appears to be, I don't know, maybe of him. A statue, I don't know who the statue's of, could also be him.

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And then a weird little, looks like a pack and play kind of thing, which is apparently for his dog, Maybe. I don't know. I don't know Al Sharpton well enough, but he made the list. And then the best, the absolute best is... Uma Abedin and her husband, Alex Soros. Now, I feel for Uma Abedin because for years, she's obviously been abused by Hillary Clinton as her right-hand woman.

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I mean, that seems clear when you work for one like that. So she must be able to take high levels of abuse. I mean, that's my opinion. And then she married... Anthony Weiner, who had some weird photos of two young children and really just his whole mayoral race ended in utter disgrace, as did his earlier race.

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He had a couple races, which he was booted out of for his absolutely disgusting behavior. And then eventually their marriage failed. Shocking. And by the way, his laptop may have helped cause Hillary Clinton the presidency, so she's got to live with that, which is a leftist legacy no one wants on the progressive side. And then she finds the payload, the son of George Soros, Alex Soros.

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Now, unfortunately, he's extremely homely, and there is a scintilla of sexiness about this man. He looks... asexual to me. I don't, he just looks totally like asexual. Like he's never had a beating heart looking at anything. And this is their pose in the most antiseptic, sterile, cold, uninviting living room I've ever laid eyes upon. It's got the floor to ceiling window.

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So I guess they think we're going to be impressed. They forgot to add anything resembling love. anything resembling comfort or coziness. You go to visit Ma Kelly, my mom, Linda, you're going to get the doilies on the side tables. You're going to get the cute prayers that are framed on the window, on the walls. You're going to get the two matching lazy boy chairs, well-worn and loved. You're

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It's like hell on earth, this photo. Steve Krakauer said, and I totally agree with him, they've got Margot and Todd vibes from Christmas Vacation.

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Remember, right? Elaine Bennis, what's her name? Julia Louis-Dreyfus. Julia Louis-Dreyfus, yeah. Where they're just, you know, you could freeze ice on their ass. They look so cold. You know, here they are. And this is what they put out, like knowing it's going to be the New Yorkers, like their power photo. And this has been some of the reaction. Okay. Stephen L. Miller.

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I love him on X. You know him. He's been on before with you, I think. He writes in response to all of this, sure, let's have that oligarchy conversation. X user Jarvis on this Uma Abedin and Alex Soros picture. By the way, there's something sexist about how he's sitting in like the power seat with his arm out and she's standing next to him holding his hand. There's something sexist about it.

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Well, it was basically Black Lives Matter at the Met. It was a parade of black Americans, leftists in their dandy style, which near as I can figure appears to mean over the top black and white with weird shapes and vaginas showing. That's also apparently part of dandyism. Cramming into the Met where the invitation only tickets went for $75,000 a plate.

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It reminds me of the Mika and Joe thing where she kicked her legs up and he was sitting in the power position. Like this is her telegraphing subservience to me. Like, I'll get you whatever you need. What do you need? Do you need a coffee? You need a back rub? What can I get you?

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Anyway, ex-user Jarvis tweeted out, loved this picture, in the voice of Alex Soros, loved this picture of me, a heterosexual, and my wife, who I love being physically intimate with, Chadwick Moore, tasteless, frigid antiseptic. I've been in dentist offices with more soul and character. Byron York, one of, if not the most powerful person in the Democratic Party. Very heartland. Exactly right.

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Unlike Vera Wang. Yes, this might be the golden age for her. This guy, like... all I can think about is, is it inherited wealth? Like, I'm not sure because I spent a lot of time with, for example, Lachlan Murdoch when I was at Fox. I don't remember him doing photo spreads like this. Uh, like I, he's actually quite private. He's got, I think literally the largest home in Los Angeles.

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And that's only for the losers willing to actually pay to rub elbows with stars like Lisa. Who is Lisa, you ask? Yes, I wanted to know too. She's the girl from White Lotus who was dating the security guard. Remember? She's top-notch star talent right there, people. Lisa. And how did Lisa interpret superfine dandyism? Apparently, it meant putting Rosa Parks on her vagina. Yes, yes.

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Uh, he and his extremely gorgeous supermodel wife, actual supermodel wife. He They don't show it off. They don't need anyone's affirmation of how wealthy and powerful they are. That's what real wealth and real power looks like in my experience. They don't want attention. The last thing they want is a show like Succession, right? Like talking all about them and their intra-family drama.

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But this guy, Alex Soros, has leaned into his totally inherited role as kingmaker within the Democrat Party, right down to marrying Huma Abedin, Anthony Weiner's cast off, which is just a very sad thing to be. And I don't know. I think about it a lot. Like,

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I really wanna have in my life enough money that I can live comfortably and maybe give my kids a very small nest egg to help them in case of an emergency in their lives when I'm gone. And that's it.

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Because I'm telling you, you give too much wealth to the next gen and you wind up with a prick like that, with that facial expression, trying to act like he owns the world when he was just born on third base and has done absolutely nothing. other than receive this baton of power and money from his old man. How pathetic and how not stimulating to his female partner.

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I know the commas are supposed to provide the stimulation, as you say, but that generally requires you to earn them. What's sexy is a man who earns, whether it's a you know, Mason or a millionaire. What's sexy is the hard work that goes into earning them. By this standpoint, George Soros is sexy, sexier than his weird little grew looking son.

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Doesn't he remind you of grew from the, from the despicable me series? Like all of it is you couldn't like draw up a more apt villain.

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They're literally right now lecturing us about oligarchy. Right now. These people. Just going down the list a little more, this list in the New Yorker of the living rooms, they decide to feature, this is rich news, Chase Strangio. You may not know that Chase, but you should know Chase because Chase is the transgender attorney who want who argued before the U.S.

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Supreme Court on this one case that they're going to lose on whether parents should have the right to. to make these medical decisions for their children and sterilize them and take away sexual function when they're minors. In any event, here is attorney Chase Strangio to Jake Tapper on CNN on December 3rd, right? Is it this December 3rd? Defending these so-called trans procedures for minors.

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This was the height of culture and haiku tour. Civil rights icon Rosa Parks reduced to a vagina cover. Look at this. Is that part of the diaspora? Is it? I'm asking Anna Wintour for a friend. Maybe somebody we know a little better, a legitimate star could help us out. Let's go to Halle Berry, one of the world's most beautiful women, right? Perhaps she nailed it. Here was her outfit.

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Okay, so this is a nice test for the listening audience. I intentionally didn't say any pronouns about Chase Strangio before we tossed to that soundbite. The listening audience in particular heard a woman who has taken testosterone there. It's very clearly not a man. It is a woman pretending to be a man who's taken testosterone. Those voices are very unique. They're very distinguishable.

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Once the apex of high fashion culture and A-list celebrity, the gala now looks more like a sad sack D-list past its prime wannabe version of its old self. It's closer to today's nerd prom White House Correspondents Dinner than the center of the celeb and beauty universe as it used to be. This year's theme was superfine, tailoring black style, an homage to black dandyism. What's that, you ask?

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They fool no one. And if you, listening audience, were to get a look at Chase Strangio by going to our YouTube feed and going 42 minutes out of the hour, you would be even more convinced because other than growing a fake beard and wearing a man's suit, this looks like an effete feminine woman in dress-up, like a... like a Whoopi Goldberg, except this one's feminine. It's ridiculous.

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And so saying that kind of shit, nonsense on CNN about how it's fine, it's just totally cool to have these procedures done on minors who cannot possibly consent.

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As minors as young as 12 to the loss of sexual function for the rest of their life, like any 12-year-old even knows what that feels like or is to sacrifice, Chase is absurd, and it will get you featured in The New Yorker as one of the power brokers in, I guess they'll go with his, in quotes, living room. Let's take a look how Chase...

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Strangio, which is the only true part about this person, is living. Not well. Yeah. That's no surprise. If she is so powerful, where is her powerful living room? Where's her nice living room? Because this doesn't look so great. The window air conditioner. I don't know. The scuzzy clothes. These are our legal eagles now being honored and fitted by people like the New Yorker. You feeling it, Stu?

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Let's take a look. Here she is. Okay. If you zoom down to right above the bottom of the screen, what are you seeing there on this dress that has slits in it where you see like see-through and then black stripe and then see-through? Oh, it's a vagina. It's her vagina. Yeah. Apparently, she thought the diaspora meant the labia, which she all but showed.

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He's trying to cure paralysis right now with his Neuralink company. That alone should tell everyone to shut the you-know-what up and just say... Thank you. They are CIA censored number five. And instead you saw, I think it was the media research center that, that, uh, like calculated the research, um, the, the, the media coverage that he's gotten.

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And for Elon, if memory serves, it was 97% negative for, it was 97. It might've been 99. And for Hegseth, it was 100% negative 100%. all negative on the evening newscast. That's what they looked at all negative. So yeah, if you're Alex Soros, you get the feature in the New Yorker with the woman, you know, look at me, you know, and if you're Elon, you get all negative oligarch hit pieces.

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Yes, green energy with the Tesla cars and Neuralink and colonizing Mars, that's bipartisan. I mean, there's nothing partisan about that. Twitter, that's where he went really south with them because he allowed speech that you're not allowed to say, according to the left, and it changed the course of history.

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It changed the course of the debates that we're having right now, especially on the transgender issues, which is unforgivable, never mind what he did when he then endorsed and worked for Team Trump. Okay. There's so much to get to still. My gosh, there's, I'm looking at my list here and there's such goodness. 60 minutes over the top.

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Dave Portnoy, our guest of just a couple of days ago in a firestorm and is handling it as only Dave Portnoy can. We'll get to it all next. Here's an idea for someone who has everything. Hot salt. Yes, I said it. Hot salt. Exquisite, savory heat. Now you're interested, so let me tell you about Firecracker Farm.

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It's a wonderful little family company that makes hot salt, a delightful spice-infused sea salt. It has the perfect amount of heat and amazing flavor that makes everything taste better. Word's getting out, and people are loving it. That's because it's made with love. People can feel it and taste it. It's a small batch family operation, so supplies are limited. Know that.

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It comes in sleek stainless steel push grinders. Plus, you can take them anywhere. When you run out, they have refills. A little too spicy for you? Just mix it in with some regular sea salt to tame the heat, but you won't need to. It's blended to perfection. Honestly, it's the best thing to happen to food since fire. So what are you waiting for?

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Go to firecracker.farm right now and use the code MK at checkout for a special discount. That's firecracker.farm, code MK. Get some hot salt before it's all gone. You'll thank me.

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this just in lisa lisa has greater star power than we normal mortals even knew she also happens to be a k-pop star with a hundred million followers on instagram thanks to her k-pop role for those of you listening k-pop is like korean bands that have made it in korea and some over here too like what's the other one b is it bts btk btk is the killer btk is the murderer yeah

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Halle Berry, let me tell you something, has been in a five-year effort to prove to us how sexy she is ever since some actress named Lisa Rae McCoy said on a show that she'd heard Halle Berry is bad and boring in bed. Look it up. And honestly, since that date to now, Halle Berry has been

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As you can see, I got my finger on the pulse, Stu. In any event, Lisa apparently wasn't big enough in K-pop to get to the lessons about Rosa Parks and how we don't put her on vag underwear and take her out as our personal... wardrobe. But she's learning. She's learning the hard way.

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She also apparently got in trouble not long ago for some old tape of her singing the N-word, which apparently I guess they don't teach you that either in school in Korea. We don't say that. That's not something we say or sing unless we're black, in which case you can say or sing it as much as you want. I'm just following the rules as they've been set up by the rap industry.

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Okay, so there's a lot going on. I want to get to Jen Psaki. Jen Psaki really, really, really wanted us to know, as she went on the Mixed Signals podcast on Friday, that she really had no idea that Joe Biden, her boss for years— was mentally infirm. And when she left the White House in May of 2022, he was a-okay, Skipper. He was doing just fine.

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She was just like shocked, shocked when he had that debate meltdown. Here's what she said and sought for.

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She never saw him in person. And she's not a doctor. She wants you to know that still. And you're not a doctor. And I am a doctor and an astronaut. I'm a jurist doctor. And I was able to diagnose him from my desk. So I just want her to know. You're not one and you were able to diagnose. I am one and I was able to diagnose. So we've got this whole thing covered. We put together just like...

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I'm not going to play. It's just too short. But we put together a list of the many, many mental infirmities that we saw from Joe Biden, like the more popular ones prior to her departure. They included him slipping over and over again while trying to walk up Air Force One, getting lost on his way back to the White House. Referring to Vice President Kamala Harris as president and first lady.

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Confusing the immigration policy Title 42 with the mask mandate. Losing his train of thought and slurring during key remarks. Do we have that one? Asking the team? Yeah, let's watch that one.

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doing inappropriate photo shoots and going over the top with her language about her bedroom prowess because she's never been able to let it go, which means it struck a chord. I'm sorry, but if it didn't ring a bell with you, you'd be able to laugh at it and move on. That's part of being a public figure.

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It's not a stutter because then we could play the soundbite where he forgot the name of the Pentagon and Secretary of Defense. He didn't remember the word Pentagon, remember? And then he forgot the name Lloyd Austin as his defense secretary. And so we could keep going. All of that was prior to her departure.

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All of us saw it just on the little box that we call the TV or the computer and were able to see that there was a problem. But Jen Psaki is not a doctor, Stubergear. So she just couldn't do it.

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But she has been instead putting up progressively more and more provocative pictures of herself all the way through last night where she went full side vagina. You've heard of side boob. This was side pube and it wasn't pretty. I'm sorry. She's not looking her best. This was not the time to go side pube.

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No, they want us to care about Signalgate. They want us. Pete Hegseth used Signal to discuss a lot of things. I don't care. Shut up and move on. You just. Spare me your your full outrage. I don't believe you. You want to bring him down because he's Trump's guy. You don't give a shit about that.

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If you cared about the fact that he had a signal conversation with his wife, with details that he shouldn't have shared ostensibly with his wife, then you would have cared about the fact that Jill Biden was president. You didn't care. So stop it. Take a seat. I'm no longer listening to you and I'm not alone.

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And I really hope it doesn't become a thing because it's not, it's not really the most attractive part. I mean, really like if you really want to get attention now just to go full pube, right? Like do the Kanye Bianca sensory thing. Like don't phone it in Holly. You really want attention. Let's see it. Put it on display. Don't, don't be such a press. And speaking of not pretty,

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That's right. In fact, there's no reason not to do it, especially all the messages that they exchanged on Signal since they're so horrified by the use of Signal by a government official. That's wonderful. I'm sure you had those same reactions when you were in office and finding a way to communicate about Joe Biden's mental state. Let's just make sure, though. Let's trust but verify.

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Listen to Saki go on about how there was no cover up by either the media or Biden's aides.

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That you should have thought about that when you were... Because the thing about her is it's an obvious lie that she didn't know about Biden's mental decline while she was working for him. Complete lie. I don't believe one word. But it's not like she moved into... a dumpster when she left MSNBC, never to be seen again. She went to MSNBC when she left the White House.

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She went to MSNBC and got her own show where she could report on everything, including the fact that just three months later- He was calling for a dead person at an event whose memorial video he had just watched. Where's Jackie? Remember, he thought the dead people were alive and the alive people were dead.

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And again, during her tenure, he didn't know what the word was for Pentagon or that Lloyd Austin was his sitting sec def. So she has nowhere to go. No wonder she's worried about the use of the term cover up.

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What the hell happened to Vera Wang? I'm sorry, but she looked like something that you would find inside of a public washer dryer set after a college frat boy did his laundry. Then fashion's it designer. You can't see it from this far away photo. Ideally, we will zoom in on Vera's face because... It's seen better days. And look, she's aging. She's obviously not doing anything to fight the aging.

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Welcome to the Democrat Party and MSNBC. But I repeat myself, it's unbelievable. She's not fooling anybody and good for Ben Smith for raising those questions. Okay, 60 Minutes, Sunday night. We talked about this last week, how they were out there asking us to feel sorry for them that their executive producer quit, saying, I feel like we're getting corporate interference from above now.

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I'm not going to be able to produce with total independence. There's somebody who's kind of overseeing us now to see if we've gone too crazy, and that's a bridge too far for me. Meanwhile, we showed the audience all the examples, not all, just some of the examples of how biased they've been against Trump and Republicans and in favor of Dems. It's just been egregious.

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So whatever oversight they're now getting has their work cut out for them and is already failing because this hit piece they did on Trump on Sunday night was a joke, Stu. It was all about Trump's lawfare against the law firms and how now he's issued executive orders against certain law firms for hiring people Trump can't stand.

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or who in the past hired them saying, I'm not sure that's a law firm we want to do business with as the federal government. I really don't. I'm not sure that we trust the law firm that would hire this Mark Elias. And Scott Pelley pulls up this lawyer, Mark Elias, like he's the only one who would talk to us. Everybody's too scared.

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That is because he's made his whole life and career in Democrat politics, trying to ruin Republicans and Trump in particular. He worked for the firm that hired Fusion GPS and got the whole Russiagate hoax going against President Trump that represented Hillary Clinton. This guy is up to his neck in disgusting leftist Democrat politics. Of course he's going to speak to them.

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And of course, Trump doesn't want the federal government to do business with him or a firm that would hire this bad actor. Makes perfect sense to me. But to watch 60, you would think he just plucked some random white shoe law firm guy out of the ether and decided to punish him. And it was dishonest. So here's Scott Pelley from the opening on 60 Sunday night.

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Okay. So they treat what Mark Elias did to Trump in a passing reference. He, he, he includes the following line, um, There were allegations raised by Elias in 2016 of shady dealings with Russia by Trump in his campaign. He's right that the FBI could not corroborate what was described as rumor.

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All of that's fine. But you're going to put on a black tie outfit and show up for the diaspora at fashion's biggest night. You might consider a little under eye concealer. I'm sorry. That was just, I'm going to say it like you needed it.

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At least one allegation was promoted to the media by Clinton campaign representatives when Mark Elias was general counsel. One, at least one allegation promoted to the media by Clinton campaign reps when Mark Elias was general counsel. So he was just the harmless general counsel.

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And one allegation related to Russiagate was promoted by his by the Clinton campaign, which they represented when he was that. They did not mention the fact that he was an architect of the whole Russian collusion hoax. Back in 2016, he was at Perkins Coie law firm, which hired Fusion GPS, the OPPO research firm, on behalf of Hillary Clinton's campaign and the DNC to...

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pair, the fraudulent Russian dossier, which fueled the FBI investigation, wound up being the basis indirectly for the FISA warrants. They got to spy on the team Trump for this hoax. He runs this thing called Democracy Docket, which sues on behalf of Democrats, claims to be defending democracy. They left out the fact that he was sanctioned by the U.S.

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Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit for unethical conduct just a couple of years ago in 2021. They added in Four total lawyers all bashed Trump. Not one defended him. There was no Trump defender featured at all on 60. And this is the new 60 that's got the corporate overseer to make sure they're fair to Trump. It's a fail.

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If you can get away with it and you don't need it more power to you, Vera, I'm here to tell you, you needed it along with some mascara and a little blush and maybe a cameraman who was farther away. It was shocking. And while we're being mean, what were you thinking, Pamela Anderson? I mean, honestly, I know she's leaning into the I'm no longer a sex kitten. And I support her in that.

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And by the way, even if you're going to have four or five people on there criticizing Trump, Scott Pelley well knows that there is a journalistic obligation to feature someone there defending him. It's not hard to find somebody who will defend the president. They didn't try. They have no interest in doing it. Honestly, it's so insane. The executive producer quit after doing...

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piece after piece bashing Trump. And Sherry Redstone's trying to sell her company, Paramount, to Skydance. And she needs government approval for this. Paramount owns CBS. So she put in this sort of overseer of 60 to make sure they didn't get too crazy and that

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I mean, I don't know what it could mean if it's not, please stop unnecessarily and, and fakely bashing president Trump in an unfair way because it's causing me trouble. If it doesn't mean that, what does it mean? You're not leftist enough. That doesn't make any sense. Bill wouldn't have quit over that.

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He quit because he thought that they were going to try to, you know, pull the bridle back on the Trump coverage. And this is the first thing they do once Bill's gone. I know it's just like, none of it makes sense other than 60s committed to its biased and, and nothing is going to change that. Okay, let's talk about this Dave Portnoy thing because it's kind of interesting.

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He was just on the show on Thursday. So Dave Portnoy, in addition to owning and running Barstool Sports, which is a podcast network, and he's got, he's been betting, there was a betting company that they were in business with for a while there. In any event, he also owns sports bars.

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And at one of his sports bars, I guess if you win trivia night, you have to do something to win the right to put like your little slogan on one of these light up whiteboards in the bar. And these two guys who won,

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uh decided to post f the jews and then posted the video on social media this is from one of the barstool bars in philadelphia can we see the video why aren't we showing the video let's show the video please um so this got a lot of people upset and dave portnoy saw it and he's jewish himself but not that that's required to get upset over this kind of thing but he didn't appreciate that much

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And he decided to fire the employees who agreed to write that message that the patrons said they wanted. And then he offered to send the two patrons who wanted that message to Auschwitz on his dime. to go learn a thing or two about that attitude and what it has led to in the past. And this created such a firestorm around Dave that he was very angry.

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I respect that. But she has leaned in so far. She has imploded into a large ball of makeupless sparkles. And I now miss barbed wire. I, this is not even recognizable. The weird pixie cut with the bangs, the little page boy bangs that are halfway down her forehead. And she's obviously put on some weight. Okay. Again, fine. But like the dress was not flattering at all. It covered every inch of her.

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He posted online the other day, Philadelphia, this is where this happened. The local news keeps calling me, calling me, calling me saying, we want an interview. We want an interview. So he said, I'd give him an interview. You can see him sitting on his couch, talking to his laptop. You know, it's clearly a zoom. And he said it got heated about halfway in. So his friend or coworker,

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to pull out his iPhone and started taping the exchange because the ABC Philadelphia reported it decided to make this into Barstool and its culture of hate. Its culture of hate is what led to this. Notwithstanding how Dave was handling this, watch, here's a bit of that.

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Right? Good for him for shoving it down her throat. She begged him for the interview. She got a big exclusive with him in the midst of this firestorm. He's doing her a favor by sitting with her, and she decides to call him the center of this culture of hate. It's your fault. This is exactly how he should have handled her.

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She looked like half man, half woman in this head to toe cover with no makeup on. I I'm sorry. She can do better. She Pamela Anderson in like jeans and a t-shirt is better than that. Colin Kaepernick was there again because it was BLM on a red carpet.

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He crushed it. Turns out one of the students who, I don't know if it's a student, one of the patrons who he offered a trip to Auschwitz Then came back and after getting suspended at his university for, I guess, posting this video online without apology, he got suspended from his university, came back and said, I was just posting it as a citizen journalist.

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And Dave came out and said, that's very different from what I was originally told. And withdrew the offer to send this young man to Auschwitz. And we don't know this young man's name. It's remained anonymous, I think, until now. So in any event, that's what's happening over at Barstool. Well done, Dave Portnoy. Handled it perfectly. Stu, a pleasure, my friend. Thank you for being here.

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And my regards to the beautiful superstar of this show, the real Lisa.

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Till the next time. All right, coming up, somebody the left can't stand. Somebody the left made their entire campaign when they backed Kamala Harris about. A true boogeyman to the left. And let's see if you can guess who it is. You'll see right after this break. Don't go away. Let's talk about that car you own, but do not use.

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The one you're paying to keep registered and insured that's taking up space out front and is just sitting there doing no one any good. But you have a choice. You can give Cars for Kids, that's cars with a K, a call and have them take care of all of this for you. Just give them the info and they will come to you as soon as the next day and take that car off your hands at no cost to you.

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You can also give them a call Even better, they will turn that car into funds to help children. So visit cars4kids.org. That's cars with a K and then the number 4 to donate or call Cars for Kids directly at 1-877-CARS4KIDS. And they will get that car picked up quick. Plus, you can get a tax deduction and vacation voucher. They've been around for 30 years. They've done this over a million times.

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Someone named Andre 3000 showed up with a piano on his back, which really did prove that this is really just a costume party and has nothing to do with fashion, which honestly is fine by me. I love costumes, but the advertising is all wrong. I thought it was supposed to be fashion's biggest night. High couture. It's a fucking piano on his back.

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Let me take you back to this time last year and leading to the summer of 2024. Remember this message, which was everywhere?

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Remember that woman who walked out of the Democratic National Convention with a huge purported book titled Project 2025? They thought that this was going to be the thing that brought it home for Kamala Harris, that took her to the promised land. Well, how'd that work out? Well, you're about to meet the man who is the president of the group behind 2025, the project.

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And it's called the Heritage Foundation. Kevin Roberts is their president. He's also a former college president and he's author of the book, Dawn's Early Light, Taking Back Washington to Save America. Kevin, I mean, you heard all the terrible things they were saying about effectively you and heritage. How do you plead, sir?

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How is that inspirational to this year's fashion season? And by the way, I happen to know because I, in another life, knew Anna Wintour. She doesn't like all black. She likes colorful outfits. She gets upset when ladies and men wear all black. I don't know how she felt about the big black piano on that man's back. But whatever, that's his fashion statement.

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They would go through the list of Project 2025. It's like, you know, like trying to decrease the number of abortions in the country and trying to secure the border. I was like, great, cool. Like this to me is like an advertising for the Republican Party. But the left treated it like it was a little Nazi manual that President Trump was going to just make into law as soon as he got in there.

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No one has any idea. Prepare yourself, however, for a deep dive into leftist, academic, gobbledygook, nonsensical talk, which is probably how it got chosen as the Met Gala theme. That and their desire to pander to black people. The Met says black dandyism came from the intersection of African and European style traditions, of course. What does that mean? I have no idea.

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Well, you've also been very kind to yours. Truly, whenever we go down to D.C., you guys have these amazing studios and you let us use them. So I'm grateful to you on a personal and professional basis. OK, let's talk about because you are a former college president and the issue of colleges under Trump has exploded. This was a campaign promise.

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He said he would dismantle the DEI that has infected all of these elite universities. And he's really not only is he doing it, but he's fighting for it. So he issued these executive orders. Now, he could just sit back when they fight them legally and phone it in, but he is fighting tooth and nail. Like, you want to give me a hard time about it?

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I'm going to take away this source of funding for you. I'm going to take away that source of funding for you. Like, he won't rest until they actually do scrub these campuses of this very dangerous ideology, which, of course,

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has not only just caused problems in general, but has resulted in large part in the anti-Semitism that we're seeing on college campuses, which when made manifest toward Jewish students is illegal.

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Um, the latest is, this is from the New York times data today that, uh, they are seeking to force Harvard back to the negotiating table on its list of demands, like to clean up the anti-Semitism problems, et cetera. Um, by saying you will not be eligible for any new federal grants.

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No more federal money, basically, in a contentious letter to the president, Alan Garber, saying you shouldn't be seeking grants from the federal government since none will be provided, signed Education Secretary Linda McMahon. And she goes on in just a scathing piece about all the sins they've committed. What do you make of this?

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Whoopi Goldberg never misses the chance to dress like a man, never. I mean, on The View, on the red carpet at the Met Gala, and you could be forgiven for mistaking her for one last night. Madonna too looked short, she looked stocky, and she looked manly. She went in all white. I mean, does dandyism mean cross-dressing?

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It's like, what exactly do you think Trump should do with Harvard and Columbia and Princeton and Yale and all these colleges that are doing this, that are committed to this DEI way of teaching and being? It's like not just teaching, it's the hiring, it's the administrative staff, it's what they wanna see in the students who apply there, it's in the lesson plans and the syllabi.

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I mean, it's just ubiquitous. So what should he be doing to make sure They do what his executive order says.

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It's so amazing to me that they're really committed to this. What DEI really is is discrimination. That's what they're fighting for. They want the ongoing ability to discriminate against whites and Jews, as the case may be. And it's really, really important to them. They are willing to die trying.

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You look at just on Tuesday, there's a piece in commentary today called Defunding Shouldn't Stop with Harvard, where they outline the fact that their presidential task force on combating anti-Semitism and anti-Israel bias they released their final report. Then they had to do the one on combating bias against Muslims too, as though that's an equal problem at Harvard's campus. Sure, Jan, sure.

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It's a 300 plus page document and they conclude it reveals the depth of the university's systemic bias against Jewish students. Many students, quote, described experiences of being bullied or shunned by fellow students, singled out for negative attention by instructors and feeling ignored by administrators.

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There was something about gender in that long, incomprehensible definition, wasn't there? And these stars think that they're being provocative by wearing tuxedos, by wearing tuxedos, one that was black and one that was white and the one that was black and white. And speaking of black and white, no one has done black and white this well since the black and white cookie.

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Fear of encountering hostility has led some Jewish students to conceal their Jewish identity from classmates. One wrote, One graduate student said, Imagine trying to go to school and learn in this environment, and yet they're still holding on, Harvard is, as are the other universities, to their ability to teach and run the university just exactly as they see fit, like we should trust them.

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Yeah, because it goes well beyond anti-Semitism. And obviously, we need to make sure that there's still room to criticize Israel. That's a different kettle of fish. You can criticize Israel all day long and say that their response is disproportionate. All that's fine. But this is what decolonization looks like with the murder of a bunch of Jews. Now you've crossed a line. Now it's different.

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Intimidation tactics that stop Jews from going across campus or to class. You've crossed a totally different line and the feds have an obligation under the law to step in and stop you. But it's so beyond just Jewish people. It's whites. That's the truth, Kevin. All these DEI policies, they're illegal. It's already illegal to discriminate against anyone because of their skin color.

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including whites, but they do it every day. And I feel like they'll get rid of that over their dead bodies.

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He's not afraid of the fight at all. So as we close out his first hundred days, that was on last Tuesday. How do you think he's doing in particular? How do you do and how is he doing on the tariff policy, which is by far the most controversial thing he's unveiled?

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And it brings me to Kamala Harris. Did you see Kamala Harris last night? She did remind me of a black and white cookie with her weird little dress that again, much like the Pamela Anderson dress, made her look like three times her size. She looked, look at her. She looks enormous. She looks like the before picture for an Ozempic ad.

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Well, there are reports that Trump is asking for a record cut in spending, that he really wants this budget to go back to the way it was decades ago in terms of government spending. But the only thing that would increase would be the defense budget by some.

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Do you think there's any chance that this Republican Congress will do that, that they will cut spending by record levels, add to defense and pass tax cuts?

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Yeah, and Pete's made clear he's trying to replace over at the Pentagon the munitions that we've been shipping over to Ukraine. I mean, it's not about like a barreling toward war at this point. It's about trying to make sure we have our base covered. God forbid we were to need it.

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He did announce today that he's firing a bunch of generals and like the top brass, and he wants to take the money and resources that were going for those guys and supply it to the warfighters. So we'll see what that looks like. It's been a pleasure, Kevin Roberts. I don't believe what they said about you. It's not right.

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Oh, I hope I see you again. All the best to you. And we are back tomorrow with Chamath and Jason from the All In podcast. The besties, two of the besties will come see us. They're always fun. We'll see you guys then. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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I don't know what woman decides to add another one quarter to her size with her dress choice. This is very odd to me. And there's Doug Emhoff in a regular looking tux, which given the other options we saw last night was fine. But in general, these women wearing black and white or black and white in a tuxedo is boring, as were most of the looks boring and done.

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One of the only ones who dazzled at all was Diana Ross. And yes, as the papers all said today, coming up with the same headline, she reigned supreme. And she did wow everyone. I mean, any of us in an 18-foot train would wow anyone. Apparently, people were pissed because they had to get off the stairs so she could enter. But you know what? Stardom has its privileges, so I kind of support this.

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She looked awesome, and it's great to see some of our old... Motown royalty still around and asserting their proper place in the pecking order. Look. The real problem with last night's Met Gala, I mean, there were many. It's just off point. It's too much privilege in the hands of too few people who we cannot stand. I mean, the stars don't have to pay that $75,000 a ticket.

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That's truly just the loser wannabe star fuckers who pay that money so they can sit next to Lisa. I don't even know who that is. Who are you? When you have to say it's the girl whose name, the name doesn't even come to mind of like who, what was that character named again? She dated Guyton or whatever his name was like, that's, that's how you got to be like the famous person.

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That's why you're here. And by the way, it pretty much was the white Lotus Met ball. There were like black Americans and then the white Lotus people. Here's Lisa in that movie. And then the white Lotus people. And like, Not for nothing, but Patrick Schwarzenegger, the nepo baby of Arnold Schwarzenegger and Maria Shriver, was, speaking of dandy, looking a little light in the loafers. That's fine.

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There's nothing wrong with that, but I think he's hetero, and that was not a good look for him because he had cinched that tiny little waist as small as the David Muir waist in the fireman's jacket with the clothespins in the back. I miss men. Why does going to the Met Gala mean you have to look like a girl? I prefer the Doug Emhoff look, frankly.

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He looked like a tiny little cinched waist girly girl. Dandy. I mean, dandy. I can't get back on the definition of dandy, but it does have sort of a gay connotation. And Patrick Schwarzenegger was leaning in. But the point is this thing is so over the top with its privilege and its wealth and its people who are totally fucking out of touch, rubbing elbows with one another.

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But it seems to be based on a 2009 book written by a woman named Monica Miller called Slaves to Fashion, Black Dandyism and the Styling of Black Diasporic Identity. Okay, so so far we have dandyism, intersection and diasporic identity. So we're betting a thousand on the scale of leftist code language that will make liberals sound smarter and feel superior. Ms.

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It brings a little vomit to one's mouth. And that's why we watch it, to hate watch it. And now this year they added in the extra element of the total fucking pander. Sorry, that's three F-bombs in the top 10 minutes. My apologies. Of the total pander. And we're done with that, Anna. I guess you didn't get the notice.

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Or maybe she did, and this is just Anna Wintour, one of America's richest, meanest bitches, trying to declare herself as part of the resistance. She's the new face of the resistance, the biggest bully in America. with more money and access to power than virtually any other American.

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Now she's gonna be the new resistance because Trump and the majority that elected him have said, we are done dividing ourselves by race. We're done leaning into things like the black diaspora, okay? Fashion is fashion. But she's got to do it because she's got to remind you that she's a better person than you are. And that, of course, means she's not.

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And her behavior proves she's not because only people who are not need to run around trying to prove and lecture the rest of us on how good they are. OK, so Anna Wintour is done. Our days of pandering are done. And so very clearly are the days of the Met Gala. Joining me now, Stu Bergier, host of Blaze TV's Stu Does America. Forget government debt. Another real crisis is personal debt.

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Go to done with debt.com for a free consultation and That's donewithdebt.com. Stu, welcome back. I'm sure you were riveted to your TV as the red carpet arrivals unfolded. Your take on the display of opulence, arrogance, and disdain for regular people that we witnessed last night.

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News for Greta Thunberg. A new peer-reviewed study published in partnership with one of the world's top scientific publishers finds for the first time in decades... The Antarctic ice sheet gained mass. Ice sheets store two-thirds of the planet's fresh water. They act as sort of water towers, storing water as frozen ice that would otherwise be in our oceans.

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Earth currently has two ice sheets, one in Antarctica and one in Greenland. As they melt, they have contributed to rising oceans. The research is based on satellite data from 2002 to 2023, published in Science China Earth Sciences. Researchers found from 2002 to 2010, melting ice in Antarctica contributed to about 0.2 millimeters per year in global sea level rise.

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You simply cannot buy beef like this in a grocery store. You cannot. Shipped directly from the ranch to your home, you get a much better price than going through the middlemen. Order directly from riverbendranch.com and use promo code MEGAN to get $20 off your first order. That's riverbendranch.com, code MEGAN. And be prepared.

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That rate doubled from 2011 to 2020. increasing the rise in sea levels by 0.4 millimeters per year. However, the trend flipped dramatically from 2020 to 2023. Increased snowfall in East Antarctica, which led to an accumulation of snow and ice, offsetting rising sea levels by about 0.3 millimeters per year. A relatively small increase, but a new record nonetheless.

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Four major glacier basins, which had been losing the most mass, instead experienced mass gain, reversing losses they had suffered. While scientists caution it's too soon to call it a trend, the recent gains suggest Antarctica may be more resilient or more influenced by natural cycles than we've been led to believe. That'll do it for your AM Update. I'm Megyn Kelly.

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Join me back here for The Megyn Kelly Show, live on SiriusXM Triumph Channel 111 at noon east, on YouTube.com slash Megyn Kelly, and on all podcast platforms.

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Once you taste it, I think you're going to be coming back for more and more. Again, riverbendranch.com, code MEGAN. President Trump on Sunday confirming an offer to deploy U.S. troops to assist Mexico in fighting drug cartels on Mexican soil.

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According to the Wall Street Journal, President Trump made the offer on a phone call with Mexican President Claudia Scheinbaum on April 16th. President Scheinbaum rejecting the offer as a matter of national sovereignty. On Saturday, the Mexican president responding to the report at a press conference.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Tuesday, May 6th, 2025. And this is your AM Update. If Mexico wanted help with the cartels, we would be honored to go in and do it. President Trump confirms Mexico declined his offer of direct U.S. military support against the cartels. For now. But the offer, he says, still stands.

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In February, President Trump invoking emergency powers to implement additional tariffs on Mexico until its government stepped up in the war against fentanyl and illegal immigration. The New York Times' The Daily Podcast reporting in early March, the tariffs had an immediate impact on cartel fentanyl production.

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In the months since, the Mexican government increasing cooperation with the Trump administration. President Scheinbaum deploying 10,000 Mexican National Guard troops to the nearly 2,000-mile U.S.-Mexico border. Troops patrolling the area for signs of traffickers and smugglers. In February, NBC reporting one patrol discovering, quote, a large, sophisticated tunnel just feet from El Paso, Texas.

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President Trump takes questions at an event announcing the 2027 NFL draft, sounding off on everything from Pope Trump memes to self-deportation payouts and a shocking report on Antarctica. Could climate change be reversing? All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update. If you haven't heard about Riverbend Ranch, listen up.

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It measured four by six feet across with a complete lighting and ventilation system. Also in February, the Mexican government handing over 29 imprisoned drug bosses. wanted in the U.S. on charges relating to racketeering, drug trafficking, murder, illegal use of firearms, money laundering, and more. Mexican officials also stepping up efforts within their own country to crack down on cartels.

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The Associated Press reporting in April, Mexico's security chief quietly forming an elite force to take on the cartels. Quote, the unit began to form shortly after Scheinbaum took office and it hopes to have 800 members by the end of the year, according to one federal official. For now, Mexico drawing a firm line against US pressure, but the Trump administration is making one thing clear.

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The US is ready to act. On Sunday, President Trump shaking up the news cycle with a pair of surprise announcements. The potential reopening of Alcatraz prison and a 100 percent tariff on foreign films. President Trump posting to Truth Social, quote, rebuild and open Alcatraz. Today, I am directing the Bureau of Prisons, together with the Department of Justice, FBI and Homeland Security.

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to reopen a substantially enlarged and rebuilt Alcatraz to house America's most ruthless and violent offenders. We will no longer be held hostage to criminals, thugs, and judges that are afraid to do their job and allow us to remove criminals who came into our country illegally.

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The Trump administration growing increasingly frustrated with legal roadblocks stalling its mass deportation agenda, moves President Trump argues illegally interfere with his authority to enforce immigration law. President Trump telling reporters on the White House lawn the idea to reopen Alcatraz was inspired by the many legal challenges.

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Alcatraz Island was converted from a military facility to a federal prison back in 1934. In that time, it housed some of America's most notorious criminals, including Al Capone and James Whitey Bulger. The rocky island, located just over a mile from the San Francisco shore, considered inescapable due to the freezing water and deadly currents.

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Dozens attempted escape, though only three men evaded recapture. They were never found, and it's unknown if they survived the swim from the infamous island or drowned. Ultimately, the prison was shut down in 1963 due to increasing operating costs and the need for repairs. Even some non-Trump-hating legal experts had questions about the practicality of Alcatraz. Here's Greg Jarrett on Fox.

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In a second surprise Sunday announcement, President Trump writing on Truth Social, quote, the movie industry in America is dying a very fast death. Other countries are offering all sorts of incentives to draw our filmmakers and studios away from the United States. Hollywood and many other areas within the USA are being devastated.

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Therefore, I am authorizing the Department of Commerce and the U.S. Trade Representative to immediately begin the process of instituting a 100% tariff on any and all movies coming into our country that are produced in foreign lands. We want movies made in America again. The president elaborating Sunday on the White House lawn.

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Democrat Governor of California Gavin Newsom facing growing criticism from within the entertainment industry for not only failing to incentivize moviemaking in Hollywood, but for making it entirely cost prohibitive. Critics say the governor is failing to keep Hollywood competitive with other countries.

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The dissatisfaction recently aired on a podcast hosted by actor Rob Lowe featuring Severance star Adam Scott.

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Exact details on how a tariff on productions will be assessed or enforced, not yet known. Coming up, President Trump weighs in on the 2027 NFL draft, the Pope meme, and on self-deportation incentives. Plus, new data out of Antarctica flips the climate change narrative. Tax day may have passed, but for millions of Americans, the real trouble is just beginning.

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Call 1-800-958-1000 or visit tnusa.com slash Megan. You may have missed April 15th, but you haven't run out of options. Let Tax Network USA help before the IRS makes the next move. President Trump on Monday bringing NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell to the White House signaling a new chapter in their otherwise contentious history to announce the 2027 host city for the NFL draft.

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President Trump also inviting to the podium a longtime political adversary, D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser, who once painted Black Lives Matter in bold yellow letters on the street leading to the White House in direct protest of his presidency.

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The president estimating more than one million football fans will turn up to the National Mall to watch the draft in person. The 2026 draft will take place in Pittsburgh. Following official remarks, the president opening the floor to questions. One reporter asking about an AI-generated image posted to the president's Truth Social account portraying Mr. Trump as the new pope.

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Critics slamming the image as offensive and in poor taste. Supporters, including many Catholics, dismissed the outrage as overblown or fake, pointing instead to what they see as far more serious attacks on the faith during the Biden and Obama years. President Trump responding.

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On a more serious note, President Trump weighing in on a new DHS program encouraging illegal immigrants to self-deport. First reported by Fox, the plan offers to cover travel costs and promises an additional $1,000 once the individual is confirmed to have left the country.

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According to DHS, the program is expected to save taxpayers up to 70% compared to the cost of traditional deportation.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. It is the first big President Trump address tonight since taking office. Not that he hasn't been making news on a daily basis since his inauguration 43 days ago. Overnight, he paused all military aid going to Ukraine, for now at least.

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Just FYI, this is what the White House put out on a fact sheet on its tariffs to justify the tariffs in part. I'm bringing this part up because it mentions more about Canada. A recent study recognized Canada's heightened domestic production of fentanyl and its growing footprint within international narcotics distribution.

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Canada-based drug trafficking organizations maintain robust super labs, mostly in rural and dense areas in Western Canada, some of which can produce 44 to 66 pounds of fentanyl weekly. Last year's northern border fentanyl seizures, though smaller than Mexico's, could kill 9.5 million Americans due to the drug's potency.

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Proof of Canada's growing role in this crisis, fentanyl seizures at the northern border in the first four months of the fiscal year are quickly closing in on what was seized the entirety of fiscal year 2022. Both nations' failure to arrest traffickers, seize drugs, or coordinate with U.S. law enforcement constitutes an unusual and extraordinary threat to America's security.

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Do you think President Trump... wants them to step up, crack down on fentanyl and greater crackdowns on the border? Or do you think President Trump wants to extract the 25 percent penalty? Like which one is the better result in his mind?

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I haven't looked at how bad the trade deficit is between the United States and Canada or the United States and Mexico. I know it was very bad between the United States and China, which is why they got in addition to the Trump put on tariffs in his first term, which the Democrats ripped. But then Joe Biden kept in place and most economists actually wound up defending them.

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And then he came back into office and slapped another 10% on China. And now just last night slapped another 10% on China. But there's no question that there's a massive trade deficit between China and us. I don't know what it is between us and Canada and us and Mexico, but I'm sure there's a basic fairness argument to be made.

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Well, I mean, I guess we should know the answers to these and maybe President Trump will fill in some of these blanks in his speech tonight and defend why he thinks these are necessary. But I, for one, am willing to see how it goes. I think if the economy really starts tanking and large swaths of the American economic machine start hurting, Trump will do something.

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I mean, that is really what he prides himself on more than anything, is his being a businessman, his cutting deals. And Trump in particular is not going to look at a suffering stock market for very long and say, I won't do anything. He'll do it. He will do something. He's just that's the thing about Trump is he's active.

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you know, he doesn't just sit back and then go quiet and we see him half dead on a Rehoboth beach weeks later being wheeled out by his wife. That's Trump is active. So I feel like let's give him a shot. He clearly believes in this. Let's see how it goes. If it turns disastrous, I think he'll, he'll do what's necessary to undo it or make up the losses somehow.

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Um, I'm willing to hear him out tonight. Okay. So let's talk about what, like the look of it, as I point out, We're not going to have Nancy Pelosi behind him. It's going to be Mike Johnson and J.D. Vance, which will be, I think, a pleasure for most of us. And then you've got the guests who are going to be invited to sit in the first lady's, you know, sort of skybox there.

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And he is bringing, among other people, Peyton McNabb. The now 19 year old girl from North Carolina who was slammed so hard in the face by a volleyball by a male pretending to be a female player that she suffered permanent nerve damage and a traumatic brain injury. I think she's a perfect guest to accompany the president to be there so he can make reference to her. Here's the video here.

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That's Peyton on the right. Sorry, sorry. That's that's the male player on the right. And then Peyton is going to get it. Watch. And so the spikes of male players are they've been documented to be far more powerful and with higher velocity than what any woman can do. And so this girl is a great walking.

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But since Peyton got injured, there have been so many young girls who have been injured, who have had trophies stolen from them. And guys, this comes on the heels of yesterday. Every Democrat in the Senate and both of the so-called independents, who are also secret Democrats, voting against the Protection of Women and Girls in Sports Act.

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Every single one, even though this issue has 80% support by the American public to not let boys into girls sports. It's insane. That alone is a huge winner and winning moment for Trump tonight. Thoughts?

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It's very hard because I take your point, state by state experiment and all that, but I actually do think it's a civil rights issue for girls and for women. And they're already entitled to this protection under the existing law. It just must be enforced.

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But secondly, we've, of course, been through four years of Joe Biden, where he implemented these so-called reforms into Title IX and policy and his, you know, dear friend pressure on universities.

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And so Trump has to try to undo it on a national level, both through executive order and Title IX new guidance, and ideally through a statute which would stop this pendulum from swinging back and forth and back and forth, and we could have predictability. Here is... who we need to keep our eyes on, okay?

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Because the senators who are from blue states like New York and California are not going to be punished for their absurd vote. And keep in mind, they didn't even have the balls to allow a vote. That's what they were being asked on. Will you vote for cloture, which is where you need 60 votes in the Senate to say yes? That's it.

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They just needed to allow this to proceed to the Senate floor for a real vote and then let majority rule as it always should. They wouldn't. So they affirmatively stopped it because they knew that the Republicans did have the 53 votes. All 53 Republicans were ready to vote yes on this. And they couldn't get the chance to because they needed seven Dems to cross over.

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So here are the true villains, the ones who are in swing states who must be targeted. I'm begging Elon to use some of his money and he's 100% with me on this issue. 100% with me. I beg you to use some of your money to help defeat the following people. Arizona, both of them have to go. Ruben Gallego, it should have been Carrie Lake anyway. She would have voted the right way.

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Mark Kelly, who I liked and who I still have a personal affinity for. I'm sorry, you need to go. If I could wave my magic wand, you're fired, sir, because you voted the wrong way. Georgia, John Ossoff, who's got a daughter but doesn't seem to give two shits about what happens to her on the sports field, and Raphael Warnock, who I think is going soon anyway. Michigan, Gary Peters.

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Alyssa Slotkin, you have to go too. You didn't show up. You didn't think it was important enough, even though you're one of the women in the Senate, to show up and support young girls trying to work their way up the power chain behind you. Nevada, Catherine Cortez Masto, you too. Jackie Rosen, gone, if I have anything to say about it. Pennsylvania, fuck you, John Fetterman.

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Act like you're a man of the people. You're going to look out for the weak. You get it. You don't get shit. You really don't. That part of your brain still appears to be injured because you're going to let all these little girls go out there and get a traumatic brain injury. You, of all people who understand what a brain injury can do, screw you and your working class appeal.

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You don't get it at all. And then there's Wisconsin's Tammy Baldwin. who exposed herself as a complete idiot in those confirmation hearings that I went down to. She was one of the dopiest people we saw up there. I'm not surprised she landed in the wrong place. But those are swing state Democratic senators who ruined the protection of girls and women thanks to their votes on this issue.

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They ought to be targeted and they ought to be made to pay at the ballot box the next chance we get.

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I think I got to go. Definitely, Pat. Show me a 16-year-old girl with a traumatic brain injury and permanent paralysis because she's trying to play her high school game. I am angry. Sure. I'm furious with them.

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Empty egg cartons. Like, literally, they were in charge of everything up until, what, six weeks ago. Who is that going to persuade?

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Let me tell you something in response to that. It's exactly the opposite because here's what's happening now. I know this because I am the mother of this age child. You know, I have a 15 and a 13 and 11 year old.

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And this is where this kind of thing becomes a problem when they're little, you know, when it's not an issue pre puberty, when they're seven and eight and playing against each other, there's not a difference so much, a little difference there is, but like, it's not a dangerous difference between boys and girls at that, at that age. Um, But this is where my kids are, where it does become an issue.

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And what's happening now is if you have a gender nonconforming girl who's out there, let's say, on the field hockey field, parents are starting to worry that it's a boy. Is that a boy? Because there are a lot of moms now who are like, my child is not playing against a biological boy. It isn't safe. And I object to it. And so now questions get asked about, is that a girl or is that a boy?

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Inspect genitals. That's, of course, hysterical talk from the left. But there are questions. Is that a boy or is it a girl? And you're entitled to know as a parent who has a child out there. Because look at Peyton McNabb. Nobody wants their child to have that happen to them.

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Or the girl in Massachusetts who had all of her teeth knocked out on the field, hockey field, by a boy pretending to be a girl on the other team. And the trauma to the rest of her teammates in watching her mouth fall out of her skull, which is what happened, with blood everywhere. Fuck you, John Fetterman, and your empathy for the trans people.

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Where's your empathy for that girl who has no more teeth in Massachusetts? Anyway... So if we know that boys are not allowed to play in girls' athletics, of course we will do what we have always done, which is just say, that's a more masculine-looking girl. Maybe it's a lesbian. Maybe it's like a butch lesbian. Fine. Most women have zero problem with that. We love all women. We love the lesbians.

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We love the lipstick kind. We love the butch kind. We don't care. Welcome to the sports. Lead. Be great. Awesome. But If you have to wonder whether it's secretly a boy, it raises safety and other concerns that do make you get more, not inspecting on the child, but worried and inquisitional and can lead to awkward, uncomfortable moments for everyone.

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I mean... I like... This can't be... This cannot be the plan. I realize they don't have Nancy Pelosi positioned behind President Trump anymore because she's not Speaker of the House. It'll be Republican Mike Johnson and J.D. Vance. But like... There's going to have to be something better. I mean, what we're hearing is some are going to no show.

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They wrote it intentionally to be as non-controversial as possible. you know, so that they didn't put all these weird things in there that would allow the Democrats to wiggle out of it. It's, it's very simple. It's, it's the thing that 80% of the populace supports and these Dems all voted. No, not one showed courage on this subject before we move on from it.

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Just this week, this is via the lion, a, it's a new media outlet that publishes articles on news and culture. Um, They reported that in Southern California at the track meet out there, a junior who goes by A.B. Hernandez, who's a biological male, finished first in the high jump, the long jump, and the triple jump.

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The triple jump performance, which I'm about to show to you, was eight feet further than the runner-up. Eight feet he jumped further than the girl. Watch it. Wow. And you hear somebody say that's just wrong. Because they know no girl's going to be able to compete against that. Here is A.B. Hernandez after the meet.

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Okay, and then I'm just going to make two other points quickly. That's why this A.B. Hernandez is being allowed to play. Yes, woke ideology and all that, but also these ridiculous schools who want wins. There is a school in Westchester, it's a private school, and they fired their athletic director because he was against... letting boys onto the girls teams for safety and fairness issues.

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And they wanted boys on the girls teams because they want to win the rugby championship or the ice hockey championship. I can't remember which one it was. It must be ice hockey because rugby is not big here. They want to win the ice hockey championship, the girls team. And the more boys they can put on the team, the better. And here's the second thing.

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Staying in California, there's the San Francisco Waldorf girls basketball team. We have covered this team in the past. They've been dominating thanks to a boy named Harry who is on the team who typically averages 20 points a game. 20 points a game. But he was out. in the last week of February. And by the way, in January, he scored 29 points. That was his average.

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And then they said to the ones, I guess the leadership is saying, no, you should show up, but you should bring somebody should bring somebody who will make a point. Well, by the way, like, is that a thing? I don't remember like the Congress members ever bringing a guest. Isn't it just the president who brings a guest and puts them up in the first lady's box?

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But he did not play in the recent playoff game And guess what? His team lost by 26 points. They really missed their biological boy on the team. So this is what girls are up against. You run into these athletic directors who want the W, or the school principal who wants the W at all costs, or extremely woke Californians who are like, boys are girls.

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Or CBS News, who in reporting on what happened last night, says as follows, Senate Dems on Monday blocked a measure that sought to ban transgender girls and women from competing on school sports teams that match their gender identity. Talk about not phrasing the problem correctly, right? This is what we're up against. So it's a no. It must be a federal statute.

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It cannot be a state-by-state experiment. We need national legislation. And while we don't need this on girls' teams, we do need in Congress more people with balls.

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it's not just since, since you're just among friends here, you can tell us the truth at those gymnastics tournaments. You're really just looking for Olivia Dunn. Are you not?

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Okay. One other, I want to talk about some of these guests, but there's also on the, well, we're on the gender front, January Littlejohn. And she had her daughter, socially transitioned by her school without her permission and somehow managed to save her daughter, who's now in high school. This is when she was in middle school. and get her back on, on the path.

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Kids who express gender confusion, if you just leave them alone and you don't start socially transitioning them or changing names or 90% of them plus will revert to their biological sex and forget the gender nonsense. But what happens is these schools without telling the parents, um, start transitioning them. And then they don't tell the parents anything.

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The parents have no idea that when they go to school, they assume an entirely different identity, name, put on different clothing. Everybody there experiences them as somebody of the opposite sex. It's very dark. Trump said this was happening. We just did a story on this. He said it repeatedly, but over the campaign trail, he said it. And they tried to fact check him.

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Axios tried to fact check him saying that's not happening. It's happening all over the way. It's happening all over New York City, public and private. I can attest to that personally. I've looked at the policy in both and known people that it's happening to. And this is out in California. And so tonight, to his credit, Trump brings the mother of a girl to whom it happened.

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Socially transitioning these children is a huge step. And it's one that's very hard to undo. Very. Because the kids got emotional issues. currency in it. You know, it's like you make this big leap and everybody's like, yeah, snaps, snaps. You know, now she's a boy. And then the kids got to be like, no, didn't work out. No one's given any thought to that.

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That should be a decision that is made with parents. But these schools are doing it without. So I credit Trump a lot for choosing these people, putting them in the first lady's seating area. And so, you know, we'll see. The whole point of doing that, guys, is try to force the media to talk about it.

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Can you imagine if somebody stood up and said, invitation accepted, I am a conservative who voted for Trump or who supported. Can you imagine what those teachers would do?

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Book your free business review today to transform your operations, grow your profits, and secure your future. Visit fysi.com slash Megan or call 800-877-4000. Success starts with FYSI. Just to round it out, a couple of other guests we know he's going to be having. The Comparatore family, the family of the man who was killed at the Trump-Butler rally. Stephanie Diller.

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This is a very smart one from Long Island. She's the widow of Jonathan Diller, that NYPD officer who was murdered at a traffic stop in Queens in March of 2024. You remember Trump flew in from Florida and he attended the wake when Biden opted to go to the fundraiser and sit down. for the, I think it was the smart list podcast that day was so ridiculous. Um, and then, yeah.

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And then he went to that fundraiser at radio sitting music hall with Bill Clinton. So dumb anyway. Uh, so the widow of Jonathan Diller will be there. Mark Fogle, the school teacher, Trump got back from Russia along with his 95 year old mother who asked Trump to get him back for her. They're going to be there. Smart. Um, the mother and sister of Lake and Riley, Alison and Lauren Phillips.

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That'll be a very powerful moment. Uh, Alexis Nungari, all this poor mom, the mother of Jocelyn, 12 year old girl who was murdered by two illegals. Um, and Biden. Biden's administration had apprehended and released them just before they murdered Jocelyn. A steel worker who has been helping out, including at Hurricane Helene in the aftermath. And Roberto Ortiz from Texas, who was with the U.S.

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Border Patrol for a decade. He has been shot at repeatedly by cartel members. So we'll see all these folks mentioned by the president tonight. Should be compelling. The speeches generally are boring, except for those personal moments, you know. Trump is rarely boring, but he's still a president. He's still got a long speech to read through.

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And so these addresses tend to be long and monotonous and predictable. And the Republicans in the audience will be totally obsequious and, you know, be on their feet every other. And you'll be like, shut up. It's too much applause. And the Democrats will be sitting there cross-armed no matter what great thing he's done.

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You know, I give you AOC back in the Trump years when he celebrated the bipartisan passage of the anti-sex trafficking act.

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Oh, and by the way, there's talk about some, this literally was in one of the reports today, about wearing the pink pee hats. Some are going to wear the pink pee hats. I mean, yes, that's in one of the reports today. I don't know if anybody will be dumb enough to do it.

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But that's some of what's going to happen tonight. For sure, he's going to mention Doge. which has been very demonized and really is absolutely loathed by the left. And I do mean loathed, but they're getting clever on how they express their outrage. They have formed the rapid response team, super PAC protest group, George Soros funded or inorganic riot. organization? No. Choir, my friends. Choir.

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And those tariffs on Canada and Mexico officially took effect, plus he hiked the ones on China by another 10%. Those stories both could evolve throughout the day today, and there might be announcements coming tonight during the speech. There's probably going to be something up his sleeve, something big to announce. We'll find out.

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And yes, then the choir is now showing up. A rapid response choir? Yes. Literally not making it up. Where people are getting laid off like they went to NOAA on Monday, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, where hundreds of workers had been laid off last week. They wore pink vests and they Saying, my friends, here is a soundbite. Yes, I did that for you.

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Yes, we need more theater kids. You're right. It's like their instinct is to go to the theater kid thing. And that will bring me to my next person I wanted to introduce you to, who is a TikToker. Uh, she goes by the name of Antoinette Selly, C E L Y. And, um, she's got 16,000 followers and yet somehow we found her and she was very upset about what happened in the oval last Friday with Zelensky.

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And I mean, really upset. You think you're upset? You should, you should see what Antoinette did. I'll show you.

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I say them all. Almost all. Oh, really? It's a short list of ones I won't say. Oh, wow. Okay. I'll be sure not to say it. I don't know. It's just so, like, aggressive. And they use a lovely lady part, and they turn it into something, like, aggressively vulgar. And I just, I decline to participate.

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Oh, Antoinette. What? No, I'm not going to leave it there. Of course, I'm going to show you what happened.

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Almost as good as the rapid response choir music. What is Zelensky making? Here is the first part of her transformation into Volodymyr Zelensky.

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No. No. The listing audience, it's really happening. I mean, Annette's doing a good job. She's putting black eyeliner inside her nostrils now to make her nostrils bigger. She already looks like a man. Dark eyebrows. It's like a man, man hair, Zelensky hair.

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She looks like an Albanian gangster at the end of that. It's so amazing. Like, why are they doing this? The Rapid Response Choir founded February 2025. They have songs like... The little light of mine. OK, we know that one. All you fascists bound to lose and Doge is to blame.

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Well, OPM says you can sign up and pledge to retire and just walk away from job security into uncertainty with no guarantee. That's what Elon calls efficiency. Doge, Doge is to blame for this mess that they cannot contain. Under cover of night, they've tried to take all our rights, but we won't back down. Not without a fight. And then there's joy in resistance. Of course, continuing the theme.

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Back to where we started, we've got possibly some pink peahats tonight, maybe some wearing of the white, an occasional guest who was a fired federal worker, the resistance choir.

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I have to say, like, you put that black stuff on your nostrils, man. Oh, man. Like that was truly transformational. I mean, good.

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I mean, makeup tutorials look like quite a bit. You also learn a lot if you if you watch MSNBC. I don't know if you're aware, but their reaction. You're going to you're not going to be able to believe this to the Friday Oval Office situation. was to claim that Trump is weirdly and problematically tied to Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia.

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I'll give you just a little taste of Rachel Maddow's monologue on it last night.

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She can't let it go. It's like when you delude yourself with a conspiracy theory, like most conspiracy theorists, you cannot let it go. Even when it's been totally disproven, you just still hold on. You're like, but I know better than all these other people. And so with every new news story, she's looking for proof of the lies that she told us for four years. I will say this.

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We talked about it yesterday. Mark Halperin conducted a poll with an independent pollster named Wick. And they showed that the reaction to that exchange was overwhelmingly in Trump's favor among American voters. So they actually thought Trump handled himself very well. And some 62% said they found Zelensky's behavior offensive. And then there's this on Trump's overall policy with Ukraine, where...

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It's going to be painful. It's not going to be settled on terms anybody who feels bad for Ukraine is going to like, but it is going to stop the killing, at least for now. Here's Harry Enten over on CNN talking about how Trump's doing with the populace on this. It's not for...

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You know, I just, I'll just give you one more where he's talking about what Americans want now versus what they wanted in 22. It's hot five.

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That was a tweet or a true social post, but he didn't say that to his face. And I will, I encourage you, and you are busy guys who have a lot going on, but you should go back and take a look at the video we did yesterday. It's on our YouTube feed right now. where we went through every one of the moments leading up to the big moment where things really melted down between them.

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And we showed how Zelensky was antagonizing Trump with the eye rolls and the size and interrupting him and correcting him over and over and over. And Trump took it. He took it. He took it. He took it. He was he was taking the high road, guys. But Trump is Trump. And the American people elected him knowing who he is. This is not a way to get on his good side. He should have been flattered.

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He definitely should not have been antagonized. And where did Trump not forget J.D.? Where did Trump lose it? Trump lost it when Zelensky said the danger may be coming to you. And that's when he came in and was like, you're not going to talk that way in the Oval Office to the American people. Now I'm done. Now it's over. I don't blame Trump at all for his behavior in the Oval.

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And J.D., he didn't get mad or really interjected at all until he'd seen all that behavior by Zelensky, the stuff I'm talking about. Go back and look at the video. And then he was called by his first name in what was obviously a disrespectful moment. I said this yesterday. It's one thing.

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World leaders don't usually call each other by their first names, but they'll occasionally do it in a moment of levity or warmth, you know, where like, whatever Trump might say, like BB and I go, go way back. Or we had a moment back when we were having lunch, you know, but where it's tense and you're, you're in the middle of this escalating thing where the guy's eye rolling at you.

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And by the way, he has said very, very critical things about JD prior to this day and vice versa. So they don't like each other. And then you lean over and in, in front of the press, you're like, you refer to him as JD. What are you talking about? JD explain yourself. And so JD gave him shot back. It wasn't a nasty answer. But there was a tone to it that showed things were starting to go down.

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And then the rest is history. But anyway, my point is simply, I really don't think Trump behaved badly in that. I think he was antagonized over and over and over. And to the extent that Donald Trump's capable of taking that kind of needling on the world stage in front of the American public, he did it. And then finally, they pushed him too far when they started to threaten the safety of Americans.

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He wasn't, but it's the problem that Zelensky faced in the lead-up. in the, in the meeting still is there's, I mean, a total and utter power imbalance. And it's like, it's, it's very annoying. But one of the things he challenged Trump on was Trump keeps saying that we've spent $350 billion on Ukraine. I don't know where Trump's getting that number from. I've tried to replicate that.

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I cannot find what's in 350 billion or how he's getting there. Um, we got to 250 billion. I could find that. And, um, Then there's one source that says, well, if you just limit it to this particular kind of aid, it's more like 115 billion, which would put the Europeans at 136 billion above us. But you'd have to limit our aid down to one particular thing.

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And our aid has been vast and we've been doing military training and we've been doing, you know, sending munitions and so on. So I think that if you look at our Pentagon, there's no question we've spent more than the Europeans. And Zelensky was trying to say that we haven't. And Trump handled it. He handled it. He was like, no, not really. Yes, they kind of agreed to disagree.

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But like it is true that we have done the lion's share. The United States has done the lion's share in funding this war on behalf of Ukraine. And where have we gotten to a stalemate to a place like I don't understand? Like I look at it from the Rachel Maddow point of view. And I or yours, Moynihan, since you say it's similar on this issue substantively.

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They don't have one. The most they've come up with is organizing like move on to send some nasty protesters to some of these Republican town halls to make it seem like Republicans and are very mad at Republicans. And maybe there are some Republicans, but for the most part, these are Democrat operatives showing up at Republican town halls to yell at them. Yes. OK, hold on. This is Politico.

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What is it that Trump should be insisting on that he's not? He, I think, accurately perceives the American people do not have the appetite for American boots on the ground to maintain security in Ukraine. So he thinks the Europeans should do it, which makes a lot of sense because it is their backyard and Ukraine is part of Europe. That makes perfect sense to me. But.

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He didn't, well, today he pulled all eight because he's mad now. And of course it's working. Zelensky's already coming back and you're probably right. He'll sign that minerals deal and Trump will likely announce it tonight because Trump decided to play hardball. But he said to Zelensky, here's what I will do. I'll invest billions, hundreds of billions of dollars in your country.

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Now I want something for it. I would like some of these rare earth materials that we really need because Russia and Ukraine are rich with them and the United States is not. And China's rich with them and we are not. So that could help me and my people. And it wouldn't be too terrible for you either, because we'll give you all this money in exchange for it.

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And we'll have this ongoing economic presence there and actual physical presence as we work with you to try to extract this stuff that will be a deterrent in other ways to Putin. That's what Trump has proposed. How is that so offensive?

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forth on this. So how does that look if Trump gave him that? And there was a moment in which Trump suggested he might be open minded to it yesterday. But Zelensky didn't take the W. It just kept stepping over Trump. But I don't in general, I don't think Trump wants to give that.

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OK, so let's say we gave that. No, it's not. And it shouldn't be. I'm not sending my sons over there to go fight for Ukrainians if Vladimir Putin crosses that line. Hell no. Or daughter. So that's what I'm talking about. So if we sent troops over there to be the enforcers of this deal as the security for Ukraine, you know, security guarantees, then we're involved.

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Then if Putin crosses the line again, it's a war between Russia and the United States. Hell no. We don't want that. The country doesn't want that.

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What is it he should be offering that will calm the other side down? What do they want from Trump that he's not giving?

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Let me see. Where is it? Political. Large scale disruption is still unlikely tonight. Some lawmakers have privately discussed walking out as an entire caucus during the speech or wearing pink hats in protest. But there's less enthusiasm for such demonstrations than in the past years. Camille, they just can't get excited about wearing all white or wearing the pink pea hats tonight.

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you give us minerals and we give you hundreds of billions in aid. I mean, it's not we're not getting it for they're not giving it up for free.

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That's reportedly what they're negotiating, that we will continue our ongoing economic investment in Ukraine in exchange for the minerals we want. And by the way, all the monies that we've given so far virtually every dollar is unsecured. And Trump keeps saying with the Europeans, it was secured. They got loans and we gave gifts. And Zelensky denied that. It is true.

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That's another thing Trump's saying that is true. The Europeans got guarantees and we didn't. So- And of course they're going to negotiate what Russia's going to get to keep. And Trump seems to be telegraphing, look, they're probably going to keep what they've gotten, like, and no more. You know, you kept them out of Kiev and that was great. And there's not going to be further incursions.

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But Trump, I mean, it seems to be, look, let's just leave it where it is. It's gotten bad enough already. Let's stop the bleeding.

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I know, I'm just- It's Trump with the one side and then he goes to the other side. Like it's not-

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And then somebody was asking, well, what specifically what what specifically in terms of military will you give to Ukraine? He was like, oh, well, you know, we'll see.

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So let me just say this. So in the wake of that Friday Oval meeting, all the European leaders are talking tough. You're like, oh, we got your back. Ukraine, we got your back. We got your back. We'll do this. They're all frauds. They can't do it without us.

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The theme of the president's speech tonight, the renewal of the American dream. Democrats were told in closed-door meetings Monday night to avoid using props. to disrupt Mr. Trump's speech? What did they have in mind? But an Axios report details the wide array of disruptions Democrats may deploy, including hand clappers. Oh my God. Please let that happen. Doge signs and empty egg cartons.

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That's the reality, unless they dramatically change their spending habits and live up to military commitments they've made previously that they've been flouting for years. So technically, I guess they can, but nobody believes they actually will. That's the problem. So that now they want to rub Trump's face in. Oh, he's terrible. He didn't stand by his ally.

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Maybe there will be a couple of brave souls who will do it. We'll have to tune in to find out. You think that's really going to move the electorate in favor of their party?

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Meanwhile, even the New York Times, their podcast yesterday was admitting they can't do it. They need the United States so they can try to walk all over Donald Trump. Like, oh, what a cad he is. He's terrible. We'll just do it. We'll do it without him. But listen to the New York Times, The Daily having this discussion.

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It's Michael Barbaro, the host with Peter Baker, the White House correspondent for The New York Times.

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So they can't do it without us. They need to not keep aggravating President Trump. President Trump, I think, probably would get around to, you know, intel support if that's where we are. That's a much different commitment than we're going to send American military to Ukraine and be the first defense against Vladimir Putin, which puts us in a war if Putin gets hungry again.

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He knows he can't do that. I just think Trump is threading a very difficult to thread needle here, and he needs people's support. He's trying to bring an end to this impossible, near intractable conflict. He needs Zelensky to not be a prick. And I don't care if he doesn't like the way Trump's talking in the Oval. He has no bargaining power, none. Zero. He is in a supplicant position.

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And he needs to know that when he's over here dealing with our commander in chief, to whom he owes and needs everything, from whom he needs everything. And the Europeans, the same. So you can act all high and mighty with a bunch of swagger. but there's only one real player here and it's us.

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And that's why we are speaking to Putin and Trump is trying to speak nicely to Putin and not say the terrible things about Putin. He understands all the things that you said, Matt. He's trying to negotiate in the way that he knows how. It works for him if you compliment him, if you flatter him.

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He's trying to do exactly that with Putin because that in Trump's head is the price of getting a deal done. It's irrefucking relevant to the rest of us. We should not be getting upset or drawing conclusions from any of that language. We should be looking at what Trump accomplishes. But when dealing with Trump, you should know how to play him.

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And that there's no excuse for Zelensky to have gone in there and to have been openly antagonistic, given the power imbalance and given what we know about Trump. That's my own take on it. I'll give you guys the last word.

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Like, why didn't they have the deal signed? And why? Like, I don't know why J.D. and these others were even in the room. It should have been Zelensky shows up. They signed the deal. They have lunch. Then they go out with a signed deal, just the two of them. Now, I don't know why the vice president was there. He normally wouldn't be there. Just the two of them go out and talk to the press.

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And Zelensky never should have negotiated pieces of part two that day. It should have been purely celebratory. That should have been very clear between both leaders. We've signed this historic deal. Yay, the United States is doing super lots of stuff in Ukraine. Hello, Vladimir Putin, we're really good friends and we're going to prom together. Like that's that day. Everything else gets tabled.

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And then you have your arguments about security guarantees and how many times Putin has violated them behind closed doors leading up to phase two when you're trying to convince America to do more and be the backstop to the Europeans that everybody knows the Europeans need. Zelensky blew it. And he tried to antagonize Trump over security guarantees, which is part two during the part one.

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There were too many players in the room. They hadn't signed the deal yet. And he had been amped up by Democrats like Chris Murphy and Mark Kelly before he even got there, who I believe pushed that guy into the wrong headspace when he went into what was one of the most important meetings of his life. Okay, quick break back with the guys. Wait, do you want something else quickly before we go?

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I just don't believe it because I believe much more that Trump Like the conspiracy theory is that the deal was like falling apart and it wasn't favorable to Trump and Trump couldn't get Putin to agree to it. Like I.E. having European security forces patrol Ukraine.

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And so that Trump did something to tank the deal in that Oval Office meeting so that it didn't look like his dealmaking skills were bad. It made it look like, oh, Zelensky's a hothead. You know, it fell apart. That doesn't sound right to me because Trump is not shy about owning up to any reality, good or bad. He like he'll spin it. He'll spin all of it, of course.

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But when have you ever seen him so scared about a nasty political reality that he does something like that? That's not that's conspiracy theory talk. This president conspiracy theory is much more advanced.

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And there's no question J.D. is not a Zelensky fan or a fan of this, you know, of Ukraine. But. I also just think it's much more consistent with Trump to have wanted the win and to have wanted to run around being like, I got the minerals deal. And that loser who was there before me got nothing. He got us further and further entrenched in this thing.

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And I got us the minerals deal, which, you know, Trump is all about that. Like we're about to annex green because he wants minerals. He wants... Like, this is important to Trump.

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Yeah. He wouldn't have done that whole... I just don't think that he would have blown it up or Trump would have done anything like... You're saying J.D. Vance intentionally blew it up so that Trump could then spend the weekend renegotiating it and announce it tonight?

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That's no better than I got it signed on Friday with no problem. Look at me.

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So bit by bit, some distance out from the November election and the debacle of the June debate with Biden and Trump, truth bombs are starting to emerge here, there and everywhere. And you mentioned one earlier in the show. Chuck Todd sat down with Steve Schmidt of the Lincoln Project and listened to this.

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No, they're not. And so I knew you were coming, so we checked out The View today. And here was their recommendation for how their team should handle tonight's address.

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Here's just a little bit more Steve Schmidt weighing in on whether he'd trust Hunter Biden or the Trump children more to babysit his own children.

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How about that? The Lincoln Project, guys. Is anybody sincere about anything?

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You can't trust anybody, anybody other than Mark Zuckerberg, that is, who decided to put it all out there, guys. And the minute we have left, here he is at his wife's 40th birthday party. Watch.

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It's always a pleasure, guys. We had to end it on an R-rated note, naturally. That's our thing. Thank you for being here. We are back tomorrow with Rich Lowry and Mark Halford. Don't miss that. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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Is that reaping the whirlwind he talked about? Because that really would make me behave differently. You mentioned Jasmine Crockett. Can I just give you a word on her? There were all sorts of reactions to the Zelensky-Trump Oval Office meeting. Hers began as follows. In short, bullies ain't shit.

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That qualifies as her, I guess, sophisticated political analysis from an elected elected representatives. Bullies ain't shit. Oh, OK.

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But she might make it rhyme. I don't know. But yeah, that's the level of political discourse. I mean, I do think Trump, he's got an opportunity tonight because usually at this point, the reason they don't call it a State of the Union address is because when it's your first year in office, you've only been there for a few weeks and you usually haven't gotten anything done.

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And my God, not the case at all. I mean, just the Lake and Riley Act would be reason enough to hold this address and get into the specifics of what's happened at the border. You know, the reports are, and Trump has been saying, that the numbers are down more than 100% at the border. The latest is that we're down 94% of crossings at the border.

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I mean, it was like almost 200,000 a month this time last year, and it's down to 8,000 a month this year. I mean, it's incredible what he's... He has sealed up the border almost as much as is humanly possible, but there's so much beyond the executive order. This is just an extraordinary presidency so far in terms of volume and the number of things that...

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you know, some might've predicted this older, perhaps tired second go at it. President could possibly get done. He's governing like his life depends on it with the number of things going on. So I think it's actually going to feel and sound very much like a victory speech. Like here are all the things we've already delivered on for you and it will be a substantial list. So what do you guys think?

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Today is not the day for that. Yesterday wasn't either. Trump thought that that was going to be something to tout, right? I mean, he made the deadline for them to do. It wasn't really clear exactly what he wanted them to do in Canada and Mexico in order not to be subjected to these tariffs. And right before this address. So clearly Trump wanted to use that in his speech tonight.

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And he said, well, they haven't accomplished enough. But again, it was kind of unclear what exactly are they supposed to do? We realized that the border's not secure because of Mexico. And he's still complaining about the amount of fentanyl that's coming across it. Yes, I think everybody agrees. There were some stats around that that were very bad in terms of bus we just made.

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Some of it is coming across the Canadian border. But I think he's more upset about the trade deficit with Canada, and that's why he's punishing them. It remains unclear. Trump hasn't said specifically, here are your sins, at least not as much with respect to Canada. He keeps pointing to, yes, fentanyl, but also trade deficit. So now they're each facing 25% tariffs.

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So let's talk about it because he's very happy about it and he clearly thinks he's going to, A, get money for the United States from doing this. He points out that Canada's got all these banks in the United States, but not a single American bank is allowed in Canada. How's that fair? Just these basic things that frankly, people can understand. They're like, you're right.

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There is a bank from Canada down the road. Why can't we have this sort of basic fairness is what Trump's going for. You guys as libertarians are not big fans of tariffs. We had a conversation when Trump first announced that he might slap 10% tariffs across the board months and months and months ago. And now he's done it.

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It's not 10% across the board, but these are big old tariffs on two of our so-called friends. So what do you make of them?

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Those who watched the red carpet may have caught this land acknowledgement performed by Julianne Hough, a former wearer of blackface Halloween costumes, but now woke as they come.

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Late Sunday evening, President Zelensky telling reporters before departing London, quote, an agreement to end the war is still very, very far away, and no one has started all these steps yet. The first step to ending the war was supposed to come in the form of an economic agreement signed by the U.S. and Ukraine.

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That deal blew up last Friday when a friendly pre-signing sit-down turned into a clash between Mr. Zelensky and Mr. Trump, as well as Vice President J.D. Vance. President Trump posting on Truth Social, quote, This is the worst statement that could have been made by Zelensky, and America will not put up with it for much longer, a harbinger of what was to come later in the day.

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National Security Advisor Mike Walz with a stark warning to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky as President Trump pauses all Ukraine funding until they commit to peace. It's 25%.

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Late Monday, the president announcing a pause to military aid for Ukraine. Bloomberg citing a senior Defense Department official in reporting this pause will remain in effect until Ukrainian leaders demonstrate a good faith commitment to peace. Mr. Trump says Mr. Zelensky does not want peace, not as long as he has America's backing.

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Mr. Trump also noting European leaders told Zelensky peace cannot be achieved without U.S. support. Russian President Vladimir Putin has yet to publicly comment on the fallout from the Oval Office meeting. Several Russian officials expressing enthusiasm for the deterioration in relations.

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A Kremlin spokesperson saying the rapidly changing foreign policy messaging of the Trump administration, quote, largely aligns with our vision. Democrats remain highly critical of the White House.

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But above all, it was a plate of Vladimir Putin. Despite Democrat criticism and Kremlin celebrations, UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer acting as the intermediary in the hopes of restoring U.S.-Ukrainian relations, telling the House of Commons on Monday, President Trump is serious about making peace.

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In the lead up to President Trump's pause on funding late last night, National Security Advisor Mike Walz on Fox News warned the Ukrainians U.S. aid is not unconditional.

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Yesterday afternoon, President Trump was asked if the minerals deal could be revived.

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President Trump gets tough with Mexico and Canada imposing tariffs as Mexico gets a warning from the Secretary of Defense. Crack down on your cartels or the U.S. military will do it for you. A look ahead at President Trump's joint address to Congress tonight. Who will be there and who won't? And the Protection of Women and Girls in Sports Act finally goes to the Senate floor.

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The president mentioning his team was working on next steps, describing a fluid situation. Mr. Trump told reporters he wants the killing to stop, citing his intelligence briefings showing thousands of young men, Ukrainian and Russian, are being killed each week. President Trump says he wants to see the war ended on a humanitarian basis.

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25% tariffs on Mexico and Canada going into effect as of midnight last night. The tariffs originally paused one month ago to allow the neighboring countries time to take action, reducing the flow of drugs, especially fentanyl, into the U.S. President Trump announced yesterday from the Roosevelt Room he wants to see more from Mexico and Canada in economic terms as well.

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The legal basis for the tariffs is a national emergency relating to drugs flowing into the U.S. Illegal border crossings are down approximately 94% since last year, according to Border Patrol Chief Mike Banks. Last week, President Trump telling reporters that was largely due to U.S. actions. One week ago, authorities in San Diego arrested an individual in possession of 720,000 fentanyl pills.

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That same day, Customs and Border Protection seized more than $872,000 worth of cocaine from a vehicle entering the country near Laredo, Texas. In an effort to comply with President Trump's demands, the Mexican government extradited 29 drug bosses to United States prisons for trial last week, including Rafael Caro Quintero, who was wanted for killing a DEA agent in 1985.

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The New York Times reporting on the effect of the crackdown on cartel members, writing, One cartel leader says he's trying to figure out how to protect his family in case the American military strikes inside Mexico. Another saying he's already gone into hiding, rarely leaving his home.

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The New York Times reporting several cartel operatives said for the first time in years, they genuinely feared arrest or death at the hands of authorities. U.S. officials still not yet satisfied. The Wall Street Journal reporting Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth warned Mexican officials if they, quote, did not deal with the collusion between their country's government and drug cartels, the U.S.

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military was prepared to take unilateral action. Mr. Hegseth telling Fox News, nothing is off the table.

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President Trump announcing a massive investment into the United States yesterday.

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How did the Democrats vote? All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update. More and more, we are seeing people in their 70s looking amazing, right? And it's a reminder that now is the time to take better care of ourselves, of our health. And that includes working out and lifting weights. This is why I want to tell you about Jacked Up Fitness.

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Coming up, President Trump's big speech to Congress and the drama surrounding it. And the Protection of Women and Girls in Sports Act finally got a vote. Did any Democrats step up to support it? All that and more in just a moment. You don't go out and buy a life jacket when the boat is sinking, and you don't buy gold when the economy has already collapsed.

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President Trump set to deliver a joint address to Congress tonight, the first such speech in a new administration referred to as a joint address, not an official State of the Union address because typically new presidents haven't had enough time to shape policy. Not quite the story of the second Trump administration.

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President Trump has signed 81 executive orders over the last six weeks, not to mention the Lake and Riley Act, far outpacing any other modern administration. President Trump posting to Truth Social early yesterday morning, tomorrow night will be big. I will tell it like it is.

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After his remarks from the Roosevelt Room yesterday on Ukraine, there is speculation on whether President Trump will announce a minerals deal. Doge findings will likely get a lot of play, immigration, tariffs. The budget deadline is a week and a half away too, and Congress is now weighing a continuing resolution to buy more time to negotiate the budget.

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President Trump is likely to call on Congress to work together to pass his tax promises for the American people, like no taxes on tips, no taxes on Social Security, and none on overtime. Some Democrats plan to boycott the speech. Here is Democratic Senator from Connecticut Chris Murphy on CNN.

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Virginia Congressman Don Beyer also says he will skip the event, telling Politico, quote, the notion of half my colleagues rising and standing, an enormous clapping for things that I think are terrible for the American people every couple of minutes will not be funny.

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Axios reporting nearly a dozen House and Senate Democrats say they are leaning toward not attending or remain undecided, including Senators Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren. Democratic leadership encouraging all members to attend, suggesting they bring guests who have been hurt by the Trump administration, like fired federal workers.

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Speaker Mike Johnson, a Republican, inviting border czar Tom Homan as his guest, as well as Noah Argamani, a former hostage of Hamas. Speaker Johnson also inviting Olivia Hayes, a widow whose husband was killed by an illegal immigrant in a drunk driving incident. The president's remarks set to begin at 9 Eastern.

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Last night, Senate Majority Leader Thune brought the Protection of Women and Girls Act to the floor for a procedural vote. This was the vote that would decide if the Senate will have a substantive vote later on the actual bill. This procedural vote for cloture requires 60 votes to pass, meaning seven Democrats would have had to join with Republicans to advance the bill to a real vote.

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The cloture vote came out to 51-45. Every single Democrat and both so-called independents, Senators Bernie Sanders and Angus King, voting against the bill, refusing to even allow a real vote on it. Shame on them. In the House, the bill passed by a slim margin, 218 to 206.

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Just two Democrats breaking from their party to pass the measure, Congressman Henry Cuellar of Laredo, Texas, and Congressman Vicente Gonzalez of McAllen, Texas. The now-defeated bill specified for athletic purposes, sex is solely determined by an athlete's biology at birth, something favored by 80% of the American people.

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It also would have amended Title IX to bar federal funding to any educational institution allowing biological males to participate in female sports. The legislation would have codified President Trump's executive orders on this subject into law. Without this legislation, President Trump's executive orders protecting girl sports can be overturned with ease by a future administration.

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The release of the Oscars ratings delayed. The New York Times, anticipating lower viewership considering the top-nominated movies were barely seen by anyone. In fact, eight of the ten Best Picture nominees combined earned less than half of what Wicked and Dune II, also nominated, made at the box office.

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The big winner of the night, Anora, with five wins, was produced on a $6 million budget grossing just $15 million domestically. Anora is about a young call girl who meets the son of a Russian oligarch and quickly marries him. Sean Baker, writer, producer, director, and editor of the film, won for Best Director. A taste here of his remarks.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. We're in day 15 at the Trump presidency. Can you believe that? It's only day 15 and the news cycle is still moving at a frantic pace. The Finance Committee just approved Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

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period, which is why I've been saying from the beginning, all this DEI stuff is illegal. This is illegal. You cannot make hiring promotion, firing decisions based on the fact that somebody is a white guy or a black woman. It's not okay. So what he's really saying to me, Mike, is he's just now going to enforce this.

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He's going to now go around and find the places who have been flouting the law and threaten them, potentially deprive them of their federal money. Um, okay. Trump ordered agencies under his control in the executive branch to apply the civil rights laws, of which I speak, against private sector DEI programs.

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He also ordered the attorney general to issue a report within 120 days that includes strategies and policies to combat DEI in the private sector, including possible litigation and identifying large organizations to target for investigation. The order specifically allows for teachers at federally funded institutions of higher education to still investigate advocate for DEI.

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They can, they can, I want to get the right words. They can advocate for DEI, endorse DEI and promote DEI, but they cannot use race and sex based preferences at these universities for hiring, for admissions, for promotions, et cetera, but they can still have classes on DEI.

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Obviously, he's on record as funneling a lawsuit, a couple lawsuits to law firms against Gardasil, the HPV vaccine, which many parents declined. We did a whole show about that with a fair and balanced debate, pro and against. he'll say so. But he's made clear it's really not about his personal views.

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So you tell me whether this is going to withstand legal challenges that say it's somehow a crackdown on free speech or a factor of race that may or may not be the determinative factor and whether this is likely to stand at the end of whatever litigation comes, Mike.

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So within the executive branch, that's why we're seeing video or that picture, for example, at the Pentagon of them taking down the DEI mural on the wall. Like within the executive branch and the agencies that Trump has control over, he's saying remove the DEI paraphernalia, remove the DEI classes, remove the DEI language.

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And then in the private sector, he's saying in particular, when it comes to large corporations and nonprofits,

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I want my attorney general to submit a report within 120 days with recommendations on who needs to be sued, basically to force compliance with the civil rights laws, publicly traded corporations, large nonprofit corporations, foundations with assets of $500 million or more state and local bar and medical associations and institutions of higher learning with endowments over $1 billion, Dave.

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But in that position, would he be in a position to say, you know what, you might want to take a second look at this one? Yes, good. That doesn't mean your kid won't have access to it or you won't have access to it. But some of us have become a little bit more vaccine skeptical in the wake of COVID and this HPV vaccine, which has injured some.

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So he's saying, well, For those groups, he wants the DOJ to actually start enforcing the civil rights laws if they are unlawfully discriminating on the basis of race or gender.

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Here's the other thing though, Mike, I've mentioned this on the air before. I've never named the bank out of respect for my friend, but my friend is a senior guy at a very large bank in Manhattan. And he told me that he needed to get rid of some people because, you know, they were cutting back and whatever, finding efficiencies. And he was specifically told it has to be three white guys.

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And he was upset because the three people who were the weakest on his team were either black or women. And if he had to turf people, he wanted to turf the weakest ones. And it just happened in this case that they had been DEI hires and they were not strong. And his best performers happened to be white guys. But he was told by his boss that you have to pick amongst the white men. That's illegal.

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That's exactly the kind of person who should call Team Trump in a whistleblower or anonymous situation and say, you need to come investigate my bank. And this has happened to me. And then they come and kick those tires because there is a way of the federal government coming and involving itself against a bank if it's if it's violating the civil rights laws in this way.

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Um, we did a whole thing like, you know, the end conclusion of that HPV vaccine thing that we did was, uh, the one woman was saying she, she landed on doing one shot instead of two shots, whatever you make your own decision. But the point is you can have a debate. You can have a debate.

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Okay. Let's talk about the next one because it's getting, it's getting interesting already. Um, protecting children from chemical and surgical mutilation. That's the name of the EO. This speaks to puberty blockers, cross-sex hormones, and surgeries on minors in the name of so-called gender affirming care, which is a I believe this should be banned nationwide. This is child abuse.

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This should not be allowed on any child. I don't care if the parents consent to it. A parent can't consent to take out a child's healthy stomach because it would kill them. It would be child abuse. And so they shouldn't be allowed to do this either. Absolutely not. This should be banned on a nationwide level. This is barbaric that it's happening anywhere. And so what Trump is saying is,

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It is the policy of the United States to not fund or promote child gender transitions. It will not fund, sponsor, promote, assist, or support the so-called transition of a child from one sex to another, and it will rigorously enforce all laws that prohibit or limit these destructive and life-altering procedures. Organizations that receive federal education or research grants...

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can no longer perform these procedures. He writes, end the chemical and surgical mutilation of children. And it goes on to say the HHS secretary is also to use the following tools to end this, including Medicare or Medicaid conditions of participation, meaning you can go ahead and continue performing these procedures on children, random hospital.

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And the fact that the news media, the left, and this portion of the right that's so pro-vaccine has shut down any discussion of it. I told you when I was on Fox, you were not allowed to entertain any claims that there was something wrong with the MMR vaccines. And I'm fine with the MMR vaccines. I gave them all to my kids. Thank God all my kids are fine. Wonderful things happened.

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You just won't be able to take any Medicare patients anymore. Medicare will no longer be available at your hospital, nor will Medicaid. I mean, That's they're all going to comply that that's their bread and butter. Um, it also prohibits coverage for child gender transitions in insurance plans that federal workers have, including any military worker.

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And here again, it has a directive to the department of justice. The attorney general shall convene all States attorneys general and other law enforcement officers to coordinate the enforcement of of these laws, of laws against female genital mutilation across American states. So that speaks to the red states that have already banned this.

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Shall prioritize investigations and take appropriate action to end deception of consumers by any entity that may be misleading the public about the long-term side effects of chemical and surgical mutilations. That's through like... advertising through medical disclosures.

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If you don't tell the people, tell the families, tell the children explicitly what exactly is going to happen to them, then we can privatize investigations against you. And it goes on from there. So, oh, and by the way, there's one in here for Tim Wallace in Minnesota.

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He says the Department of Justice shall prioritize investigations and take appropriate action to end child abusive practices by so-called sanctuary states that facilitate stripping custody from parents who support the healthy development of their own children.

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That's a complete reference to Tim Walz and what he did in Minnesota, making his state a so-called sanctuary where they will remove custody from parents who don't believe in these procedures, put the child in the care of the state and then have a stranger take act as their guardian while they chop off their healthy body parts. It's sick. Okay. So likely challenges to this one, Dave.

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I think, Dave, I think it's I think if I'm not mistaken, that case is about the hormones and not the surgical procedures.

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Um, here, okay. So here's, here's what's already happening though. Today in New York, you have, um, there's news that NYU Langone, which is a great hospital. Um, unfortunately they've been doing these procedures or at least the hormones because there's a report, I think it was in the

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that they, in the wake of this executive order, because they are an institution that does receive some federal funds, denied or canceled two scheduled injections of puberty blockers. I guess you get like a thing in your arm, almost like a birth control pill as a woman. And they were about to do these on two 12-year-olds, which is not a surprise because that's when you start puberty.

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They gained some immunity and they didn't have any adverse reactions. But Why can't we talk about the people who had a different result? How is that dangerous? People can make up their own minds. RFKJ is going in there to deal with the public health crisis that is happening in this country right now. It's not about vaccine. Would you just zoom out from your obsession with vaccines, RFKJ critics?

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It's disgusting. Like a 12-year-old could ever possibly consent to to what these drugs do to him or her. In any event, NYU Langone canceled two of the procedures, and then there was a protest outside of the hospital last night by these far-left loons led by Cynthia Nixon, who is... as far left as that.

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Yeah, it was the group, the Democratic Socialists of America, the ones who were cheering all the dead Jews after 10-7, right in the middle of Manhattan, like, yay, yay, yay, dead, right, burned babies. Yeah, we're in favor. That's the Democratic Socialists of America. So she parades out there with them.

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And I'll show you her soundbite, but more important than Cynthia Nixon is Letitia James, the Attorney General of the state of New York, who

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responded to NYU Langone saying, you better do these procedures because if you offer puberty blockers for so-called cis kids, which is a disgusting term to just kids, to any kids, you can't deny them to quote trans kids or you have violated our anti-discrimination laws, Mike.

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So that's now Leticia James is putting NYU Langone and all of our other hospitals who are trying to comply with the Trump EO in a very difficult position.

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Yes, 100%. These doctors are the problem. What these doctors are making money, hand over fist, performing these bizarre surgeries. And if you want to do that as an adult, there's that weird clinic down in Texas where you can get all of your genitals removed. You can get your belly button removed. You can turn yourself into some sort of cyborg if you want. I don't support it. I don't like it.

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I think you're weird and gross, but it's really not my business. But when it's children, it's a totally different matter. But Dave- I think you put your finger on it because what Tish James is saying is if you comply with the Trump executive order hospitals, you are behaving in it. You're discriminating between sort of regular kids and these kids who say that they're trans.

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And that's exactly what they argued before the Supreme Court in the case that you referenced challenging the Tennessee ban on these surgeries for minors. They tried to argue that the proponents of these procedures, the people who don't want it banned, They try to say it's sex discrimination to go in there and say that

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You can get a puberty blocker if you're an actual girl, but you can't get one if you're a, quote, trans girl, meaning like fake girl, meaning boy, that it's somehow sex discrimination. And the Supreme Court did not seem at all inclined to buy that. And so Tish James's objection really could be dismissed summarily, depending on how the Supreme Court rules within a matter of months.

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Would you spend two seconds looking at the way we eat, the way we treat patients who get disease, who get obese, who we funnel through a lifetime of pharmaceuticals and additional medical procedures without pausing to say, what's making you ill? Why do children have autism now at a 1 in 30 rate as opposed to 1 in 10,000 30 years ago? Why do children have so many allergies?

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I agree. But I think this same type of argument was scoffed at in open court when they tried to make it. And Mike, it's like you can't, you know, Take Ozempic. Any adult, maybe Lizzo wants to use Ozempic. I don't think most people will give her a hard time on that. But if you want to give Ozempic to a six-month-old baby, that's abuse. You'll be in prison. You will be behind bars very quickly.

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We have different formulations based on who wants the medicine and for what purpose. And this is, I mean, for some, it could be in essence a vanity project to have these puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones injected into their child. For some, it could be a form of conversion therapy because in too many cases, they don't want a gay boy. They don't want an effeminate gay son And they're bigots.

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They tend to be leftist bigots who would rather have a girl. You're not a gay boy. You're a girl. And they push their kids down this road. And their son would have grown up to be a totally fine, well, gay man. But they manipulate him into doing. So it's just it's sick. It is like giving the Ozempic to a six month old. So I think Tish James will lose her challenge.

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And that leaves me, though, with Cynthia Nixon, who we all agree, Democratic Socialists of America is a disgusting, vile group. And they think they have the moral high ground here, Mike. She went out. She was, of course, one of the stars of Sex and the City. She had the following to say.

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I'll tell you one thing. She's right about one thing. She is sick. She is sick. And to your point, Mike, about social contagion, did she not just make your point?

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Yeah, exactly right. But what do you make of it, Dave? Because it just, I mean, it's barbaric. And for her, you know as well as I do, 30 years ago, it's not that there were all these trans people in hiding. She's like, it's her daughter. When you say trans, if you substitute it in the word fake, it actually gets you to the right result. It's very confusing for people.

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So she has a daughter who had her breast chopped off At NYU and like so many other people, she wants to feel validated in her choice and her kids choice by having other kids do the same thing. And so she's going to go out there with the Democratic. It's no accident that she could only find those loons to go march with her, Dave, in trying to make her point.

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Why are children getting ADHD in record numbers? Why are children suffering from tics? Why are all these children getting Tourette's? We're just not supposed to ask those questions. We're just supposed to go about our business and consume all the dyes and the chemicals in our food that's not the Europeans.

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And just FYI, because a lot of people don't know this, but if your child goes from puberty blockers right into cross-sex hormones, he's sterilized or she is sterilized and absolutely no hope of sexual function. So you have basically chemically castrated your child and they will never achieve sexual pleasure ever.

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I mean, how can you argue that an 11-year-old could ever consent to that they have no idea what's going on? what that means, what that portends for their life. It's like people sue over this, the lack of consortium from a spouse because they're no longer able to perform because they got so depressed after the car accident.

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You're guaranteeing lack of consortium for your child for the rest of his or her life just by the hormones. Forget the surgeries.

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All right. One quick question for you, Mike, on Trump's order that transgender people, you know, so-called honestly, I just I really don't think there's any such thing. There's people who have gender dysphoria who say they're a sex other than the one they are. That's just too much of a mouthful. Anyway, he says they can't serve in the military anymore, like at all, not even a desk job.

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And I was asking myself, you know, in light of the opinion by the Supreme Court that it's illegal to discriminate against trans people in hiring. You know, they've been given protected status when it comes to hiring and firing at the job site, at the workplace. Could this be challenged? But then you hear you can keep somebody out of the military if they have asthma.

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Eat the pasta that has the wheat that's been sprayed with this toxic chemical as a pesticide. Just... Ignore the farmers who are dying from cancer from the pesticides potentially that they're spraying. All that should be looked into. Should it not? Is it not fair?

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There's a whole bunch of things that you can keep if they have the wrong tattoos. So is there any question that that is a legal order by Trump?

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's nomination to be secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services. This means it will go to the full floor of the U.S. Senate, where now he's expected to be confirmed. The big question was whether he would make it out of committee.

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Oh, man. OK, let's do birthright citizenship, because this is a big one. It's in the Constitution. It's in the 14th Amendment. Speaking of the Equal Protection Clause, and it reads as follows. All persons born or naturalized in the United States. OK, so if you're born here, just go with that. And subject to the jurisdiction thereof. are citizens of the United States, et cetera.

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If you're born here and you're subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, you're a citizen. So Trump issued an executive order saying, no, you are not a citizen. You or the mom is here lawfully, but she's not a citizen and she's only here temporarily.

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So he's basically just trying to get it, mostly he's trying to get at illegals who come across the border, they have their kid, and then their kid is an American anchor baby with all the benefits of citizenship. Now, Dave, there is precedent, as I understand it, saying that

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that subject to the jurisdiction does not create some loophole that's as big as the one Trump claims and that we've been doing it right. Illegals who sneak in and have a baby, their kids do get to be American citizens. But there are at least two cases on the other side suggesting maybe not, maybe it's not as clear. So walk me through your analysis of it.

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to actually kick the tires on public health and figure out whether not only have we just accepted living this way, which is totally unhealthy, I mean, literally unhealthy, making us sick, but it's being pushed on it. It is an active part of the game for too many of these industries. Do you think big pharma wants us all to get better like that?

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Let me just jump in. Like, if a diplomat commits a crime while he's in New York City for the UN meeting, we don't arrest him, right? Because he's got diplomatic immunity, because he's not really subject to the jurisdiction. And if a diplomat has a baby while she's on US soil, her baby does not become a US citizen. It's still a citizen of whatever country the diplomat is from.

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So you're just saying you cannot analogize between an illegal person who's here and diplomats like Trump is doing.

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I know you have a very strong argument on the substance that you want to offer, and we're going to do that right after this quick break. We'll pick it up. This is actually a really good, this is a juicy one. I thought it was kind of a joke. And the more I looked into it, the more I was like, hmm, Trump does have a legal leg to stand on.

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This offers only for a limited time. Firecracker.farm and use code MK for 10% off. Okay, so just to reset, we have the 14th Amendment, which reads in part, all persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the U.S. and of the state wherein they reside.

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Okay, so Trump comes out with his executive order that says, well, your kid is not a citizen if he is born here. If you, the mom—let's assume the dad doesn't have citizenship—if you, the mom— are here unlawfully, or if you're here lawfully, but temporarily. So if you're over here on some visiting student visa and you have a baby, it doesn't apply to your kid.

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And certainly if you sneaked into this country or overstayed your visa, it does not apply to your kid. Well, 22 states immediately sued, along with some pregnant ladies, to say that executive order needs to be halted and that it violates the 14th Amendment. And on January 23rd, they got what they wanted. The U S district court judge, John. Koffenauer temporarily blocked the EO.

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He's based in Seattle, but he's a Reagan appointee. And he wrote, there's a strong likelihood that the plaintiffs will succeed in the merits of their claims that this executive order violates the 14th Amendment. The New York Times reports that he said in court, this is a blatantly unconstitutional order.

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Do you think big ag really wants any sort of mandate that requires them to change the way they do business? RFKJ had to promise that he would work with farmers and ranchers to push regenerative agriculture, which is better for you, retilling the soil and so on. And he said he would, but why can't we have the discussion? That's on the Republican side.

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Frankly, I have difficulty understanding how a member of the bar would state unequivocally that this is a constitutional order. It just boggles my mind. Now the debate is what does that term subject to the jurisdiction of the United States mean? And Trump's DOJ argues it does not mean you're simply here and subject to our regulatory power. Like you'd have to obey our laws.

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It means you're here and you're subject to our quote political jurisdiction and have quote direct and immediate allegiance to the United States. So you're subject to our political jurisdiction. I don't know what that means. Does that mean you can vote here? And you have direct and immediate allegiance to the United States. Now,

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Go ahead, Mike, because before we get to this 1898 case, Wong Kim Ark, there were two other cases that are in this Claremont Institute's John Eastman article in which the Supreme Court seemed to be suggesting, albeit in dicta, meaning not in the relevant sort of holding the important part of the case, that Trump's interpretation is correct.

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But then, as I understand it, we had a case in 1898 that, while not exactly on point in to those two pieces of his executive order provides the best fodder for the other side saying, no, it's a sweeping interpretation of who gets citizenship. You go.

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They protect the farmers and the ranchers and the Dems and everybody else wants to protect big pharma. That big pharma ads were all over Fox when I was there. It's not just a leftist thing. The point is this has gone on for too long, too long. Stop with your obsessive focus on vaccines, which are not in danger. Listen to what he actually wants to do. And on that front, thank you.

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Here is President Trump opining on some of what you just outlined in Sat 12. I think so.

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So, Dave, here are the two cases that precede that 1898 Wong Kim Ark case, which will be used by the president's challengers, Wong Kim Ark. But as Mike points out, that case is distinguishable because it involved two permanent resident aliens. They were not... temporary lawful, but they were not lawful, but temporary. And they were not unlawful. Those are the two things that Trump's order covers.

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So even in that case that went to the Supreme court, they wouldn't have been bothered by Trump's department, uh, department of Homeland security. They would not have been, um, told that their son was not an American citizen. Okay, but here are the two cases that are cited in that Claremont Institute piece.

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They say, first of all, it all comes down to what does it mean subject to the jurisdiction thereof? And the argument is, is it a partial temporary jurisdiction that applies to anyone here temporarily except for diplomats who are subject to our laws while within our borders?

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Or do they mean if you're in order to qualify as like subject to the jurisdiction, do they mean just those who are subject to a more complete jurisdiction, one which manifests itself as owing allegiance to the United States and not to any foreign power? And they say that we don't have to guess because the drafters of the 14th Amendment unambiguously stated that they meant complete jurisdiction.

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And they say the following. The Supreme Court confirmed that understanding, albeit in dicta, meaning not the actual holding of the case, in the first case addressing the 14th Amendment, noting in the slaughterhouse cases in 1872 that, quote,

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The phrase subject to its jurisdiction was intended to exclude from its operation children of ministers, consuls, and citizens or subjects of foreign states born within the United States. It then confirmed that understanding the 1884 case of Elk v. Wilkins, holding that the subject to the jurisdiction phrase...

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required that one be, quote, not merely subject in some respect or degree to the jurisdiction of the United States, but completely subject to their political jurisdiction and owing them direct and immediate allegiance.

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Thank you to the Republican senators who got him through this committee vote. It's not done yet again, but who got him through this committee vote. Thank you to Senator Cassidy, whose office we targeted. There's no question in a totally legit way. You guys all called. You made it so that that line, that phone line was basically no longer good because you just kept calling. I called personally.

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And he points out that the Supreme Court has never held that the children of illegal immigrants or even temporary, temporary lawful visitors are constitutionally entitled to automatic citizenship merely by birth, by virtue of their birth in the US.

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I'm not sure. I've got to be honest about this. I started off when I interviewed Trump back in September of 23, I, I can't remember actually whether I raised this or didn't. It was on my list of questions. I know that. And I remember kind of laughing at the argument. Like I was like, this is so clear. It's so clearly against Trump being able to do this. Um, I think I did ask him about it.

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I have to go back and look. Anyway, my point is I started off where you are, Dave, but I wound up where Mike is. Like the more I looked at it, the more I'm like, this actually is not that clear. You say there's hundreds of years of precedent. There's really only that one case that's been on the books since 1898, but they haven't been like reaffirming this over and over and over.

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There's- As you know, there's going to be. Because somebody's going to... They've got these challenges filed in Seattle, and that'll go up. And probably Team Trump will potentially orchestrate a different challenge in a more favorable jurisdiction that will go their way, and then you'll have a conflict.

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Or maybe they'll just ride it up through the Seattle system, which I think is Ninth Circuit, and they'll get an adverse ruling to them. And then they'll appeal to SCOTUS, hoping that they've got enough, they've got four, who will say that they should hear it. I just... What does the term subject to the jurisdiction thereof mean? Like, what's it doing in there?

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I called myself. I didn't do anything I didn't ask you to do. and emailed and said to him, please, please do this. We hear your concerns, but we're not worried about the same things you are. Please hear us on this guy. And if he turns out to be the kook that the critics say he is, Trump will fire him. All right.

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If they just wanted to give citizenship to everybody, you know, who was born here, why wouldn't they have just said all persons born or naturalized in the U.S. are citizens of the U.S.? Why did they put in and subject to the jurisdiction thereof?

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Well, I just don't know. I mean, if I if you look back at the Supreme Court's actual like we have to look, what did the Supreme Court say closer to the time that the Constitution was enacted and the 14th Amendment? And, you know, you go back to that 1872 case and they say in its dicta again, but they say that phrase subject to its jurisdiction intended to exclude.

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children of ministers, consuls, those are like foreign diplomats, and citizens or subjects of foreign states born within the United States, intended to exclude citizens of foreign states born within the United States. I mean, it wasn't so clear to the Supreme Court in 1872 that they were talking about more than diplomats' children. They were saying you're born to parents from another country,

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You don't get the provisions of this. And then again, 1884, a similar case. And then you had that case that's problematic for Trump. But that that did not have the same fact pattern that had two people who are here legally and permanently. I just think anyway, if you if you come at it the way I came at it and you've just been told over and over and over again, this is no brainer.

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I guess I just want people to know maybe not. I don't know whether this judge in Seattle has gotten neck deep in it either, but he's going to. OK, speaking of illegal immigration. New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy, who is disgusting. I'm sorry, but the COVID overreach and the destructive, awful windmills are reason enough to dislike Phil Murphy.

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He made this announcement just casually the other day that he's harboring an illegal. Now, he didn't say it explicitly, but there's really no other conclusion to reach from what he did say. I'll play it again. Here he is on Saturday.

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Okay. Okay. So you tell me why the feds would come to get her if she's not an illegal. It's a very clear admission. He's harboring an illegal whose immigration status is not yet at the point that she's trying to get it to, but it's at a point at which the feds would try to get her. So it's an admission. He's definitely harboring an illegal, in my opinion, based on what he said. Now you tell me,

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Have you ever seen a president more comfortable with firing bad actors or people who turn out to disappoint him? Fear not. He's not afraid of firing and replacing. So there's always that backstop. Just relax. He's trying something different. That's why he was elected. And you can make exactly the same argument on Tulsi Gabbard, who appears to have the votes as well.

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Who in their right mind, Mike Davis, would take a look at Tom Homan and say, that's a guy I would like to mess with. I would really like to tempt Tom Homan to come after me because I think he's a weak, feckless man. This man, just for those of you playing at home, here's Tom Homan.

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Who looks at him and says, I'd love to tempt the bull. I'm just going to take out my red cape and I'm going to wave it to see if Tom Holm is paying attention. Well, he is because he responded, this is on Hannity Monday night. It's not 13.

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He really is one of those guys who you wake up like, am I legal? I'm legal, right? I'm good. I'm definitely legal. I don't have to worry about Tom Homan trying to get me out because he's getting you out if you're here unlawfully. Now, a Phil Murphy aide, Dave, tells the New York Post that the governor...

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And with every single one of the 14 Republican senators falling in line, all 13 of the Dems voting no, he appears at this point to have the votes he needs to get through. It's amazing. It's a great day for America. They're melting down over him, not just on the left, but at some more conservative, traditional Republican places because they cannot get over his, quote, anti-vaccine positions.

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was misinterpreted that Murphy was just referring to a legal resident who's in his circle of friends and was worried about president Trump's return to the white house. That's all totally legal in the circle of friends.

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And I guess maybe not in the apartment over the garage and with an immigration status, not yet at the point that they're trying to get it to and worried about being deported by Tom Homan.

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Her committee vote is today at 2 p.m. And the news is all good. Senator Susan Collins of Maine, who seems somewhat skeptical. Remember, we talked about her answer. Like, I'm happy with her answers. What does it mean? We took it as a positive. Well, she's she's going to vote yes. And so is Senator Young. Something bizarre happened, though.

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He's so dumb. He already flagged it. He already read flagged it for Tom Homan. It's too late. Tom Homan's going to see what's in that upstairs apartment. I have no doubt of it. And honestly, if he finds an illegal in there, apparently she'll flee. I imagine she'd flee by the time Homan gets there. He's going to find out. Who was it? You can't avoid this. He's going to find out who it was.

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The governor probably just insured that woman's deportation. And guess what else, Mike? The governor could potentially face felony charges. Here's the statute. 18, no, sorry, 8 U.S. Code Section 1324, bringing in and harboring certain aliens, a felony punishable by up to five years in prison.

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Quote, any person who knowingly or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, conceals, harbors, or shields from detection, or attempts to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection, any such alien in any place shall be in prison not more than five years.

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So pretty good argument there, admitted by the New Jersey governor that he knowingly or in reckless disregard of the fact that he had an alien there, an illegal alien, had entered the United States in violation of law or remained in the United States in violation of law, either one, was concealing, harboring, and shielding from detection, one of those, anyone, harboring, he harbored, that's it, or attempting to harbor,

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has to be in prison for more than five years. You tell me where the governor should be hiring a lawyer right now.

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He harbored. He admitted to the harboring. He was proud of the harboring. He tried to show a little swagger against Tom Holman and his illegal friend, and he are going to pay the price. She's the least of your troubles now.

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Which is more pathetic, Dave Ehrenberg. He had an illegal up there and he had this stupidity to threaten Tom Holman or he never had an illegal up there. And he's just tried to act like a badass, making up an imaginary illegal to try to look like a tough guy in front of Tom Holman.

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Senator Todd Young, he he gave it to her pretty good at her confirmation hearing. He was clearly not a fan. Clearly, he's a Republican. And in the interim between last week's hearing and today, she had to write him a letter. I mean, it's amazing the hoops they make these candidates go through. They basically have to genuflect and tell him all the things.

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Oh, my gosh. Either one is a humiliation for him. But my money's on. There's an illegal up there. I don't know if she's still up there. But they'll find out who she is. I mean, I think you and I could, in about an hour, make a few phone calls at this point and figure out who's up there, who was up there, where'd she go.

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And certainly if they ever got him interviewed by an FBI agent or somebody who has the authority to prosecute you if you lie to them, Philip Murphy would be giving her up like that, like a New Jersey ice cream cone on an August day. Gone. Guys, thank you both so much. A pleasure as always.

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All right, let me ask the audience that. Do you believe Phil Murphy is harboring an illegal immigrant in the apartment above his garage? Or do you think he made it up to sound tough, like he could challenge Tom Homan? I am 100% in favor of he's harboring. He appears to have committed a felony. And now we should just get our popcorn to see what happens from here. Megan at megankelly.com.

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That's how you email me. Coming up next, filmmaker Sean Stone is here. He has made a really interesting series and it is about the deep state. He happens to be the son of Oliver Stone, a filmmaker in his own right. He was in some of your favorite movies as a child. We'll show you some of that.

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And he is blowing the whistle on just how deep the rot runs in his government when it comes to the hatred for Donald Trump and those around him. And frankly, what Trump is going to be up against in trying to clean house second time around. Stand by for that. The IRS is the largest collection agency in the world, and it just stepped up enforcement for 2025.

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I'll give you everything you want on your Santa's wish list. Here it is. So she wrote him this letter. I'm honored. Okay, I'm committed to working to restore trust in the intelligence community. And then she says, as requested below are the list of commitments you asked that I make to you in this letter. You wanted it in writing.

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We've talked a lot about RFKJ, Tulsi Gabbard, and Kash Patel over the past week. Their status as disruptors is a key component in the reasons why the D.C. establishment cannot stand them. And that brings us today to filmmaker Sean Stone. Sean's latest documentary series is called All the President's Men, The Conspiracy Against Trump.

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It is streaming right now on our pal Tucker Carlson on his network, the Tucker Carlson Network. Here's a clip from the series showing Kash Patel.

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The series is a deep dive into the coordinated efforts by administration insiders and the media to take down Donald Trump during his first presidential term. It provides great insight into Cash, Tulsi, and RFKJ's agendas. Sean, welcome to the show.

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What a great idea and obviously very timely. So what was the biggest surprise to you in going after the story?

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I commit to holding accountable and seeking justice against any Intel community employee contractor or subcontractor who is suspected of making or facilitating an unauthorized disclosure of any Intel program. I will not advocate for any protections, which should only be extended to lawful and legitimate whistleblowers.

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Can we talk about the Five Eyes situation? Because in about a half an hour, we're taping live right now on Sirius XM at 133 in the east. We're going to get, I believe, a positive vote on Tulsi Gabbard out of committee, which is great. But

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Some of the things that that she's spoken out about when it comes to the distrust of the Intelligence Committee right now amongst the American public did not go over well with the senators in that room, left or right. They all seemed adverse to her. They all seemed like, you know, I think they'd all wish that Trump had nominated somebody else.

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But can you just give people a flavor for what you're talking about? And so they know why. Why did Trump go with such a nontraditional pick?

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So this is basically saying, if we have another Snowden, are you going to run cover for him? And she's saying, no. Okay, fine. And she said at her confirmation hearing over and over, what I'm going to do as soon as I get in there is create a meaningful avenue for any would be Snowden to come to me and to say, this is what we're doing.

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Right, that's what happened in Tulsi. Yeah, exactly. So one of the interesting characters, I mean, we play that soundbite of Kash Patel, but one of the things I've just made a mental note of is he was working with Devin Nunes. They were looking at this Russian collusion nonsense saying like, this isn't right. This stinks. Right. And Cash is like this firebrand fighter.

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He's a very colorful character. If you talk to him, he's just kind of fun to talk to and he doesn't mince words. I like him, but he's kind of fun and he's got flair, I guess is what I'm trying to say. And on the other side really was like, Robert Mueller, you know, James Comey, like these distinguished, respected old school prosecutors. Right.

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And so when, when there was this battle of like, who's telling the truth, you know, like is Trump a spy? Is Trump, does he have a server from Russia in Trump tower where they, as Don jr said, we couldn't even figure out how to order French fries, nevermind how to order the Russians around. Um, And then you see Cash is like this, like, yeah, this is bullshit. What's happening?

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Like in Devin Nunes, he was kind of like a low level congressman. He was never even that high up. It's like but they were right. They were right. And it's really the reason why Cash Patel is about to be our next FBI director. You have something in the in one of the episodes about Cash figuring out. who is behind the vaunted Steele dossier?

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You know, the one that talked about Trump's ties to Russia and how he had the prostitutes urinate on the bed. Trump, the germaphobe, wanted somebody to pee in front of him. Okay.

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And here's a bit of that, of how that went down, from episode four, SOT29.

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And I will make sure it is meaningful and we won't have to have another Snowden. And this is the second piece of it saying, and then if somebody doesn't obey this process and goes outside of it and goes to the news media in the way Snowden does, I will commit to holding them accountable.

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So just for the people who haven't been consuming Russiagate recently, they're talking about how the Steele dossier This made up piece of alleged intelligence was the basis for getting a FISA warrant to spy on the Trump campaign. It was like they used this made up piece of intel to get a FISA warrant to spy on the Trump campaign.

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Yet another reason why these FISA warrants became controversial and were mentioned repeatedly in the Tulsi Gabbard hearing as though they're totally vaunted. They're above reproach. You have to love them. You have to support them. You know, she's expressed some reservations about how we've used FISA in the past. So have many others. Anyway, this is all the background to that in part.

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And then him asking, well, who's behind the dossier? I don't trust that. I definitely don't like the warrant. And I don't trust the dossier. That was the basis of the warrant. And oh, my God, it's the Hillary Clinton campaign. Like he says, the the aha moment, the moment you will remember where you were.

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Then the second paragraph, I commit to working with the committee to evaluate whether existing laws, regulations, and policies are sufficient to deter an Intel community employee, contractor, or subcontractor from making an unauthorized disclosure of any Intel program.

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very interesting, very interesting perspective. I, I know that. So we, I mentioned in the intro, you are a stone, you are the son of Oliver stone. And I just permit me this one moment because your dad has made some of the greatest movies, including wall street. I loved wall street.

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We'll talk about JFK, but I didn't realize you were in wall street, little, little you, uh, as an actor and you played Gordon gecko's son, Rudy, here you are in this clip.

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I will have confirmed, communicate explicitly to the Intel community, my commitment to holding accountable and seeking justice against any violator of existing laws, regs, et cetera. They're really, really focused on Snowden. that I will not, contrary to a statement on X on June 3rd, 2019, protect any Intel community employee, contractor, or subcontractor who commits an unauthorized disclosure.

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Yeah. Oh, that's a sweet picture of the two of you together. And you're over the camera. One more, and then I'll stop with this torture. But you also played the son of Kevin Costner's character, Jim Garrison, in JFK. And in this following scene, you're being held by Sissy Spacek. No lines, but you're in this. Watch.

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But if you like them, it's a very good testimony on their behalf because kids, they have a radar for disingenuous people, people who are pretending to be cool or like be good with kids. They just sense they can see right through it. So if you have a good feeling about them, they probably are good guys. Um, Your dad, obviously there's a reason he made JFK.

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And this has been one of the preeminent films of the past 50 years. It's just one of the biggies. It's legendary. It got so many people reconsidering the JFK assassination. And now one of his first acts as president by Trump was to order the release of the remaining JFK files. They say maybe there's 3% that has yet to come out. There's a reason it's been withheld.

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They do not want any alleged whistleblower getting any sort of protection. I mean, the truth is it's more complicated than they're making. I mean, of course, you're sitting here thinking, well, I don't think I want that. I don't want to blow our secrets. I don't want to endanger our spies. But as you know, it's more complicated than that.

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People don't generally write the smoking gun down in writing and keep it in a record. They usually hide the smoking gun. Last but not least, I must ask you, because looking at your biofacts, I love this. Sean Stone starred in and directed his first feature film, Greystone Park, in 2012, based on his real-life paranormal experiences in a haunted mental hospital. What?

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You were a patient in a haunted mental hospital, or you went to document what was happening, and you experienced the paranormal?

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That's the whole other one that we have to consume. That actually really sounds fascinating. But first, you've got to check out his latest venture for Tucker Carlson on the Tucker Carlson Network. I mean, it's doing what's been out there for a while, right? And it's called All the President's Men.

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You know, some of what Snowden revealed or turned over to journalists is very controversial. We talked about that with Glenn, but some of it was exposing a program that we had our top officials lying about that did capture within its net Americans. And our metadata, things about like where we were and so on, very controversial.

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Of course, a take on the famous other film by that name, All the President's Men, the Tucker Carlson Network. Congratulations, Sean. That's awesome.

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You can't be so dismissive of them that you miss the ones that are real and are there before your very eyes. Sean Stone, thank you. See you soon. Appreciate it. Fascinating. Check it out. All the President's Ben over on the Tucker Carlson Network. We're back tomorrow with the fifth column. We'll see you then. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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And you had, you know, people like James Clapper under oath lying about it. So that's what, you know, the Snowden situation is complicated. They're wanting assurances from her that would apply to a case that's extremely clear cut, right? Where the person is about to violate our confidences and endanger our spies and there's no reason to do it. I'm not sure about these assurances.

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I know she had to give them. Believe me, I'm probably more against Snowden than I am on the Glenn Greenwald side of things. Tucker and Glenn and all these people have been advocating for a Snowden pardon. I'm not there. But I understand Tulsi's position and I understand why he did what he did. And I don't know that there should be this hardcore rule that we're never going to

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consider like the real whistleblower status of somebody if they want to do a Snowden, if they want to pull a Snowden. Again, I'm not on his side for the record, but... whatever. And then they go on from there. The bottom line is Tulsi looks like she's got the votes. We're going to know in a couple of hours. And this is all great because Trump is trying to do things differently.

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Again, it just goes back to Trump is trying to do things differently. Tulsi's right. They do not trust the Intel community. The American people do not trust the Intel community. They've proven themselves to be extremely political in their operations and their maneuvers. And We need an intel community that we actually do trust and believe in.

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Like, why did the CIA in the course of 24 hours change from the COVID virus came from a pangolin to it came from a lab over the course of 24 hours from Biden's presidency to Trump's? Why'd they do that? Why were they saying they believed it came from an animal, from a natural resource? And then 24 hours later, after Trump takes office, they say, okay, it came from a lab. Hello, we don't trust you.

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We know you're being manipulated. You're pushing somebody else's business. I mean, there's been a lot that's happened with our intel services. And if we can get somebody in there who is almost slightly adverse to them, okay? She's not, but in a way she is. She's not on bended knee to them. And she's not above questioning them. then good, good. Maybe that will lead to real reform.

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Well, you're going to have to try. Try. Go listen to the two hours I did with him on the vaccines. Do your homework. Figure out just how anti-vaccine he really is and whether some of the questions he's been raising about them make sense. And then...

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And again, if it doesn't, if Trump is dissatisfied with his presidential daily brief, if he thinks Chelsea's falling down on the job, he will fire her. So just calm down. Yeah, I'm thrilled. I'm thrilled that these two look like they're in. Kash Patel is obviously going to get in.

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And that means Trump should have all of his nominees and it should happen pretty quickly because he needs them in place. You know, we're we've already seen confusion over OMB. You know, we saw the terrible plane crash. Thank God Sean Duffy had been confirmed. But it's like he'd been confirmed earlier that day. If something were to happen in the intel field, God forbid, we had a terrorist attack.

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He needs his people in place. We all know that he's going to get his people. Republicans should not drag their feet. He has a mandate. Let's go. All right, let's go. Trump's been firing off these executive orders by the day. As you know, they're beautiful. Love, love the Trump EOs. But as a lawyer, you get paid not to look at a situation and say, ah, that'll never happen.

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But to look at a situation and say, that's absolutely going to happen. And how do I protect against it? And that's the purpose of the next discussion we're going to have. What how are the Democrats going to challenge these executive orders and how will Team Trump protect against it? The ban on DEI, his order against gender transition procedures and end to birthright citizenship.

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That's already been challenged in court and more. And for all of that, we've got two of our favorites back with us in a whole new era of political legal news. Dave Ehrenberg, former state attorney for Palm Beach County, Florida, managing partner of Dave Ehrenberg Law and host of Court Authorities on YouTube. And Mike Davis, founder and president of the Article 3 Project.

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No matter what your answer is to that, push it to the side and come to terms with the fact that Trump has said he will not be banning the MMR vaccine. He's not going to be banning any of these vaccines. He will object to some of them if he finds some to be problematic.

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Guys, welcome back. Thank you for having us. So Dave, now former Palm Beach DA, what happened? Did you lose an election or did you step down? What happened?

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Awesome. Well, good for you. And thank you for your service. Dem side or not, I greatly appreciate you doing the job because it's not easy. Certainly not easy to be a DA. A lot of responsibility. Okay. So great to see you both. You're the perfect team to talk about this with. I confess, Mike Davis, that with each EO, I'm like, yes.

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And then I'm like, because you can you can feel the filings coming down against them. And that's where they're all they'll all play out. Right. Like each one of these is going to get challenged. All right. So where to begin? Let's start with the Trump executive orders that target DEI. Um, that's the most sweeping one.

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It's the January 21 ending illegal discrimination and restoring merit based opportunity, which by the way, is the perfect name for it because we already have laws on the books that make it illegal to discriminate on the basis of race. And that doesn't mean you can discriminate against whites. It means you can't discriminate against anyone based on their skin color, based on their race.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. Today, officially marking President Trump's 100th day in office. What a whirlwind.

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And who will be on the opposite side? Will it be President Trump for a third term? Because he hasn't totally ruled it out, even with his interview he just gave to The Atlantic. He said, oh, you know, that would be a norm shattering, but maybe I'm about the shattering. He seems to just be toying with people on this, but I think we both think it's probably going to be J.D., don't you think?

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Right. That was tried and failed. What did you think of the, I haven't spoken to you publicly since then, but what did you think of the scene with J.D. and Trump and Zelensky in the Oval?

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And it's just, let me play you a soundbite because it's, it's even worse than you're imagining. Like, yeah, she went on this guy, Jay Shetty's podcast and he asked her something about her greatest fear as of late. And here's what she said.

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So what do you think is going to happen now? Trump's his messaging just this week and Marco Rubio's messaging this week has changed to be a little bit more. They're still kind of hopeful, but they sound somewhat exasperated. Like, look. We're not in this for much longer. If you guys can't work this out, we're out.

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This is your conflict, which basically means Ukraine's effed because we know the Europeans won't step up in the way the United States did. So it's over. I mean, it's I think it's really playing the Trump card on Ukraine.

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Like you will take the deal under the terms we've said are acceptable or you're on your own, which means your loss, which has already happened, will be official, pronounced and actually could get even worse.

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I don't want to put you on the spot, but the, you did peak my curiosity with the, they've tried to have people assassinated in leadership positions or like, do you mean Trump? Do you mean, are you talking about yourself? I couldn't, I couldn't quite glean what you were intimating on that one.

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We know more about Kilmar Abrego Garcia than we know about that shooter in Butler, Pennsylvania.

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While we're on the subject of foreign policy, let's take a minute on the Houthis and Iran. Yes. And that, you know... That's a loud war machine, too. I mean, there is definitely a faction of people who would love to see the green light on either us hitting Iran or just backing Israel and it hitting Iran. And the Houthis are backed by Iran. So that was playing with fire.

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I understand why we did it totally. But, you know, I just wonder, I haven't heard you speak directly to that attack or the language that we've been hearing around Iran, even by the president. Like, I don't want to bomb them. I'd much rather chat. But, you know, it's an option, which I know you're against. So can you talk about that a bit?

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No, I've been joking that when they talk about regime change in Russia, they think they're going to get Jeb Bartlett in there after Putin.

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No, but you're making the case you don't know what's coming next. And yeah, look at the terrorism threat from within Russia. I mean, he's clamped down on that just the way you'd want to happen in your country.

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The White House is branding it 100 days of promises made, promises kept, with the president's biggest accomplishments centered on immigration and the border and how. Also, Michelle Obama is once again out there whining about what a victim she is. This time, she's trying to suggest that her daughters could be arrested in the middle of the night and deported along with some random illegals.

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I can't remember exactly what he was saying, but he was definitely suggesting that you were, I can't remember. I just saw it in passing in a headline. So I don't want to try to do something about the Russia. Oh, Frankly, I'm not great. It's kind of the time for peaceniks after 20 years of endless war and a lot of blood and treasure sacrificed for very little results.

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Yes, and stop stealing pronouns that already have a meaning and trying to give them new meaning. They, them is taken. It's not available to you confused people. Sorry, wow. No, it's good. It's a fine tear. I got a lot of places I could go with that. But what you said is also true about what's happening in Gaza.

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I've been very pro-Israel on this show after the 10-7 attack, and then I haven't been following the day-to-day bombing campaign. But I have noticed, and I've talked to Glenn Greenwald on the program about it a lot, that the people who have problems with what Israel is doing – too often get the knee jerk, you're an anti-Semite. And that's not okay either.

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It is totally fine to criticize Israel and to think that they've gone too far and that they've been too non-judicious in this retaliatory campaign. You cannot dismiss anybody who feels that way and who is really critical of how Israel's handled itself as an anti-Semite. But that gets... You know, that gets collapsed, too, into like one of those narratives one cannot espouse.

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You are not allowed to say that just like you are not allowed to have a different view of Putin and this war, you know, this proxy war that we've entered to against him.

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Literally all over the New York Times. They're so disappointed they couldn't bring you down.

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There are lots of things we're not talking about. In our last half hour today, we're going to be talking about the fentanyl crisis because it's the National Fentanyl Awareness Day. And it's the number one killer of our young people. The number one killer of our young people. It's killed more people than all the wars since World War II forward has killed in America.

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And we're just kind of like, I mean, until Trump, really, we weren't paying much attention to it at all.

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I, How does it make its way to you, Tucker? Because I know you wisely avoid the internet as much as possible.

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Yeah, no, it didn't work when the New York Times tried to do it to you on the racist claim or to me for that matter. And it can't work on an anti-Semitism charge either. Like we have to, we have to be able to talk about Israel and Iran, very honestly, the ups and downs and the, I mean, severe risks of this strategy that many are pushing. Though the question is whether Trump is listening.

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I don't appreciate when people call it a ride. It's not a ride. It's a mission. There's nothing frivolous about what we just did.

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We've got to tune in on Friday when we have our official response to the ridiculousness of that Blue Origin spaceflight where we crowned six new astronauts. You may have heard. They have a difficult time calling themselves astronauts because they're not. But we had so much fun mocking them. And let's just say we took it to new heights, the mockery. It's not a ride.

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Okay. I want to start with this. Mark Halperin was on the show recently and he had something interesting to say about you and it had the ring of truth. I know he's been on your show too. Take a listen to what he reported here on the show. Do you think Pete Hegseth will survive this and will he survive as defense secretary?

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Because it's very clear some group of people that's pretty loud is out to get him.

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You know, it means informally that you're like the top advisors on the outside. No, my gosh.

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He's launching his own podcast today. It's called Up Next. with Mark Halperin, and that's part of our new MK Media Podcast Network. Sorry, next up, next up. It's brand new. I love that.

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So after you guys, after you sat with Dan Caldwell, which was a great interview and it hit last Monday, everybody should listen to it. We wound up speaking with one of the other guys who got fired, Colin Carroll. And he had a different take on it. His take was, I mean, he didn't put it in this exact way, but he said, they're having these fights with this Joe Casper, who's Pete's chief of staff.

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They couldn't get along with this guy. He couldn't get along with them, like pretty much all three of them. It sounded like maybe he felt threatened by them. He denies that. He says the office was running fine. Just look at the results. But they seem to say this guy was an obstacle that they were trying to get around. And I think they think...

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he was out to get them and he thinks they were out to get him and they think he had a heavy hand in setting it up to look like they were the leakers. And I don't know exactly whether that's true or not, but obviously those three were walked out the door and he was walked out of his position.

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He's no longer the chief of staff, but the whole thing has the unfortunate effect of making Pete's top inner circle look like it's in disarray. And I'll say this, we both like Mark a lot. So his podcast is called Next Up. It's going to premiere today. And he, I believe, has a bit of news. He's going to be breaking on Pete. And it doesn't sound like it's necessarily going to be all that positive.

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Everything she says is negative. We've been watching clips from her podcast over the past couple of weeks. Everything she says is negative. I mean, you would never know you are hearing from a woman who is first lady for eight years, has become probably a billionaire by this point. Is out on David Geffen's yacht every other summer. Her estate in Martha's Vineyard.

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So we'll have to tune in. Even I don't know exactly what it is. So we'll have to tune in to find out. But I'll ask you the same question I was asking there. Do you think he will survive this? Because there are a lot of people out to get him. And you don't know. So far, outwardly, Trump's been saying he stands by him. But You just never know how much of this he wants to wade through.

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You know, it's like that's exactly for what? Because there were staff squabbles.

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Well, on that front, as we hit the 100-day mark, it's incredible what Trump has done at the border. And I don't think anybody's complaining about what he's done at the border. Even the Democrats aren't really saying anything negative about what he's done at the border. They're focused on the deportations, which is equally as important.

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I mean, we've got at least 10 million illegals to get out of this country, and we are being stymied at every turn by a media – and the left who are hand in hand determined to stop it, even with the so-called worst first policy that Tom Homan is pursuing under Trump.

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We're going to start with not just those who are here illegally, but those who have committed additional crimes or gang members, et cetera. And you've seen what the media has been doing to Trump on that front. It's been ridiculous. But I wonder what your thought is as Trump battles all this, because we saw the first potential drop in polling this week for Trump, even on immigration.

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Her daughters who went to these Tony schools. You would think you were listening to somebody basically like the wife of a George Floyd. And she's never gotten over whatever grievance she had growing up. I love how the soundbite begins. Okay. It's not the fear for myself. I drive around in a four-car motorcade with a police escort. I'm Michelle Obama. Unbelievable, right?

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That New York Times poll showed for the first time he was underwater on his support for his immigration policies. And overall, he's getting polled. Like today, there was one that just dropped from NPR slash PBS slash Marist, 1,400 and change people. Overall, they give him a grade of The majority said a D or an F. 52% said he gets a D or an F. 23% gave him an A. 17% gave him a B.

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8% gave him a C. But the way this shakes out, Tucker, is 80% of Democrats gave him an F, 89% D or F. Republicans, 83% gave him an A or a B. And it was really the independents that drove the poll toward the negative for Trump.

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And really the reason that happened is because 35% he gets an A or a B and 55% said he gets a D or an F. So you got a 20 percentage point difference in the independents on whether he's doing a good job or a bad job. If you look at the number of people polled, 1,400 and change again, that's about 450 independents. so call it like 85 independents, are in that swing.

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You've got 85 people polled who are independents, which swung this number, you know, sort of dramatically. Now all the press will run with, oh my God, he's being rejected by everybody. Look at these terrible numbers. He's a D or he's an F. And they will certainly try to say it's these deportations. And they will also say it's tariffs. So your thoughts on all that?

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Who talks about themselves that way? Even if you are Michelle Obama. Barack Obama doesn't talk about himself that way. It's just like the hubris. And then this is the part that jumped out to me more than any other. I do still worry about my daughters in the world. even though they are somewhat recognizable.

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This just hit. As we were speaking, Bill Malujan of Fox News knew. ICE announces they've deported 65,682 illegals in the Trump administration's first 100 days and have arrested 66,000 and change illegals, 75% of whom have criminal charges or convictions. So that's, we've arrested about 66,000 and we've deported 66,000.

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So that's the best case scenario of getting rid of or getting custody over about 120,000, Tucker. And that's not great. It's not great. They've been stymied at every turn. The local officials haven't allowed it. The courts, the ACLU. But I mean, how any I have to say even this, like we're waiting on our big, beautiful bill so President Trump can get funding for his initiatives.

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It's Tom Homan's been jumping up and down saying, I have no place to put the people like, you know, they do have some certain time where we have to lock them up before we can ship them out while they get their due process. He's like, I'm running out of beds like I need I need help. That's what he's been saying. But what do you think of that?

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In other words, she's worried that as mixed race girls, they're going to get picked up like Kilmar Abrego Garcia, an MS-13 gang member, and whisked off to El Salvador. That is what she's saying, Tucker. And you know what? I think she is lying there at night thinking that. That's what she thinks of America. She is.

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What do you make of all the due process? We have to give them due process. This is the United States. We have to give due process before we kick them out.

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So how do they speed it up? I mean, Trump's done so much alien enemies act and he expanded expedited removal and we're back to remain in Mexico and he has home and out. Like, how does he speed it up?

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We definitely have to make greater progress than this because, I mean, it doesn't get easier as time goes on. That's not enough. 130,000 or so in the first 100 days is underwhelming. Let me ask you about you. Every time I chat with you, you're all over hell and gone. I don't know where you are. So describe your life these days.

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I feel like you're pursuing a whole new education for yourself now that you have the time to do it.

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That's impressive because they say females have a greater sense of smell than men have. So if you're that keen in your sense, then you're even more evolved than the average person.

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Sniffing his nose up right now. Okay, so that's good. Your point is get out there, touch grass, all that. And on that front, you've been a big MAHA person in that you helped launch Casey and Callie Means, who are basically the right hands of RFKJ right now, not to mention RFKJ himself had a huge hand in his comeback and ascension to this position. So how are you doing on that front?

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Because I do hear you talk about your love, yes, of Susie, but also of a woman we know as Little Debbie. And are you practicing what you're preaching?

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At least that's how I read her comments. That seems like as good a place as any to kick off the show as we're joined today by Tucker Carlson. Forget government debt. Another real crisis is personal debt. After four years of inflation, you might be working harder than ever and still be buried in credit card debt and overdue bills. Consider Done With Debt.

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Like, I think, I mean, I really feel like Bobby Kennedy, he definitely, I mean, he, he said he had all of his kids vaccinated, but he wishes he had more information. And that's what he keeps saying. He just wants us to have more information before we make the same decision with our kids or our grandkids. And what's wrong with that? Why, why shouldn't we know?

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Like this one's, this one's there to prevent a sexually transmitted disease in your one hour, year old, right? We should know. Yeah.

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Like, I think that's really important because- And for information providing. That's what's been kept from us on- vaccines. They don't share. To this day, they're not really making a thing out of the myocarditis that is so common with young teenage boys who take the umpteenth COVID booster.

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We know because we're in this ecosystem, but this is not something that they promote or want us to know about. And that's kind of been the theme of our whole discussion today. Like, Why can't we talk about it? Why can't we talk about the risks when it comes to Iran? Why can't we talk about potential Israeli overreach when it comes to the war in Gaza?

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Why can't we talk about the downsides of vaccines? Why can't we talk about immigration without being called names like this? It's a theme. And to me, it just gets to the tools that the left used to try to stifle conversation or arguments that might undercut their favorite things. And it's just their day is over, Tucker. And it's over. Our day is here. where we get to talk about it all.

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I'm just saying. Okay, I am too vain to avoid that. Like I got the shingles vaccine because my, well, we had a family member who got shingles. She got it in her eye and then at the tip of her nose and she got scarred from it. I'm too vain, Tucker. You know, I'm all Maha all the way, but it's not going to stop my Botox and my makeup and my hairspray. And we could go on. Maybe I'm not Maha.

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Well, I'm honestly very happy to see you. Thanks for coming on. All the best.

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See ya. Ah, the best. Tucker Carlson, everybody. Check out his show. I'm sure you have already, but of course he's crushing it and just one of the most important voices in the American conversation today. Thank God for him. Up next, I mentioned it with Tucker, it is Fentanyl Awareness Day.

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And there are some facts I saw in this documentary that our next guests are going to talk to you about that I had no clue about. And I've covered this kind of story for many, many years. And honestly, there was one particular moment, believe it or not, where I thought to myself, the rehabilitation of Vivek Ramaswamy, who got pummeled on making this point, and he was right. That's next.

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Today, as we mentioned, is National Fentanyl Awareness Day, and this is a real one. Honestly, this is not one of those made-up things where it's like, whatever, I don't know what this is, I don't have time. We do have to pause and think about, to remember those who have been lost, but think about the solutions to this problem so we can prevent these unnecessary mass deaths of our young people.

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About him, for sure, 2007. How long have we known each other? I can't even think of one negative comment you've ever made about Susie. I almost never say negative things about Doug. Well, I like my wife. Yeah, exactly. It's not like they're perfect. It's just like when I think about him, I don't immediately go to whatever's negative.

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It is a true crisis in this country. Fentanyl overdose is the leading cause of death in Americans ages 18 to 45. I mean, that's the vast swath of living that we do, 18 to 45. You're young, you're vibrant, you have it all in front of you at that age, and it's the leading cause of death right now. This issue cuts close to the bone for me personally. As I've shared with you before, my sister had a...

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an opioid problem through no fault of her own. Honestly, she was prescribed this stuff by doctors back in the era where the doctors were saying to patients, it's not addictive, which is not the same thing as fentanyl. Fentanyl is far more dangerous. Frankly, it's more lethal, but it's a similar road.

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And then my dear friend, Eric Bolling, who you guys know from Fox News and who's been on this program many, many times, lost his beautiful son, Eric Chase, right after he went off to college from... a pill that he thought was a Xanax that was laced with fentanyl, which is extremely common.

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And Eric, on one of our very first episodes where we didn't even have video, it was audio only, spoke to what happened.

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It's awful. It's the story for too many young Americans and their devastated families who are left to try to pick up the pieces and forge on. This is why we are featuring today a new documentary called Fentanyl Death Incorporated. It's only an hour long and it's so worth your time. It's shining the light on just how dire and far reaching the fentanyl crisis in America really is.

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Joining me now, Dr. Robert Marbitt, producer of the documentary, along with Billy Baldwin, actor and narrator of the documentary. Guys, welcome to the show. Thank you so much for being here. It's such a heavy subject and it's such an important one. And I could not believe the numbers. Can I just start with this? Dr. Marbitt, I'll start with you.

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The problem, you showed about 28 minutes in the documentary. We all think about the southern border. All our focus is on the southern border. And I mentioned in the tease how Vivek Ramaswamy was right about something because at a presidential debate, he said, the northern border. And he said, we need to watch the northern border because of fentanyl. And people mocked him.

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because it was like the northern border. But you guys make the point in this documentary, it's actually also the East Coast and the West Coast. It's the entire border that is being attacked by bad actors trying to flood our country with this poison.

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Exactly. So don't think for one second, just because we're in better control of the Southern border right now, that this problem is under control. It's not. And one of the things you learn from the documentary, Billy, is that it doesn't take much at all. It's like a grain of salt that can make its way into a pill

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you thought was, like in Eric Bolling's son's case, a Xanax or like a Percocet or something that young people in particular might be taking, just quote, to take the edge off or just maybe to get a temporary high. It only takes a minuscule amount to kill.

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If you had to look at it, Doc, and say, what's causing this? My takeaway from watching the documentary, again, and it's called fentanyldeathincorporated.com, and it's going to be hitting soon.

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I would say it's the Chinese who are providing these precursor ingredients, the Mexican cartels, which then take it the next level and very haphazardly put together a pill that's meant to resemble something that won't hurt you, but could not care less that it will kill you.

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And then that 38% that Billy just mentioned of Americans who are, these are deaths of despair or decisions of despair to take pills, you know, in a lot of cases, not in all, but to take pills that you don't know the, you know, provenance of to try to reach for a high on like a minute's notice for getting something from a stranger and taking enormous risks with your life, your thoughts.

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You know, it's really crazy because Trump has been in the news for the tariff wars, I mean, for everything, but the tariff wars. And one of the things he was saying about Canada was, I want them to crack down on the fentanyl crisis. And I have to admit, a lot of people just kind of laughed at him. It's like, Canada is not the problem. Hello, it's Mexico.

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But it wasn't until I saw your film that I was like, oh, my God, actually, Canada is a huge part of the problem, Billy, because these cartels got smart and they realize, especially under Trump now, that the southern border is going to be more difficult. And because we're so close with Canada, we've kept that much more porous.

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Well, you know, this is a good lead into Governor Pritzker of Illinois. I mean, talk about excesses, right? All the seven sins are walking all over him. You just take a look at him. It's like you can see multiple of them. And he's out there now. I mean, I guess he fancies himself a contender for 28 and has decided to ratchet up the rhetoric.

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And the film documents also at the southern border how they are very clever, the cartels. They will intentionally send people to sneak across the border, which they know will attract the Border Patrol. And they know exactly how many Border Patrol agents there they are to this area over here on the left, leaving open the area on the right and relatively unpatrolled.

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And that's where they'll send across the carriers with the fentanyl. Because the whole thing is a decoy to really get the drugs across the border and into the country. That's much more lucrative for them than just, you know, sending whatever, getting paid to get people into the country illegally. So it's extremely sophisticated.

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And not only we didn't even talk about yet the cargo ships that come in. huge, huge cargo ships. We check less than 1% of these. I think it's even lower than that. And many of them have boxes and boxes of this stuff. So we're just, it's coming in from all angles. And Doc, you go through in the film how this thing, A, originated, how it came about, because it like wasn't a thing in the recent past.

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It's a relatively new phenomenon. And also just for those listening at home, the fact that Narcan will not save you from a fentanyl overdose. I think most people think it can. That's that drug they want you to have around in case somebody ODs at a frat party or whatever. Narcan will not be of any use to you if somebody ODs on this drug.

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It wasn't enough for him to try to trans all of our children, he and his weird family. But this is his latest messaging as he went through New Hampshire this past Sunday.

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That's one of the stunning things. Bill, you watch this film and we've covered it as a new show. City after city has provided like clean needles or even a nurse who will be with you when you inject your drug or take your drug to make sure you don't die.

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And you make the point over and over, you can find that very easily in the United States, finding treatment and rehabilitary systems or spots much, much harder. And if you do find a place that's like a drug rehab that really works, They tend to be exorbitantly priced. Most people can't afford them. It's just incredibly hard to get help.

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Let me ask you this doc. I don't understand totally because people can take fentanyl without dying. I remember, you know, 15 years ago, I think my mom had a back surgery and they gave her a fentanyl lollipop. And this was before that word meant anything to anybody. You know, I was like, what's that? But boy, she was flying high.

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And so it's not like if you just touch fentanyl or taste fentanyl, you'll die. But what's happening? Like, is it corrupted fentanyl that's going into these pills? Like, because I use the term OD on fentanyl, which that's not exactly it. Like just a small, tiny amount of one time with fentanyl can kill you.

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That makes perfect sense because you point out in the documentary that you actually can't detox off of fentanyl on your own. You actually must have medical assistance there, doc. So why would we be taking the word of an active addict to fentanyl for anything on the street? Why wouldn't there be a mandatory?

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No, you're going into mandatory detox where for five to seven days, whatever the appropriate period is, we will get you off this drug and then we can talk about what comes next.

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No, you point out, in the film, some of these people have taken a fentanyl version that's mixed with this horse tranquilizer, which literally makes their skin... peel off of their bodies and you show pictures of people this is happening to. This is not a person who is in a position to make the right decisions for his wellness. But back to the other issue too, I wanted to ask you this, Billy.

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When I was at NBC, I interviewed this family, the Savage family. And they had, I think, four boys. And the two oldest boys were 18 and 19. And they did not OD on fentanyl. But they came back from college. The one came back from college. I think the other was a senior in high school. She waited up for them. They got home at midnight.

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And unbeknownst to her, they had, prior to leaving this party, both taken a pill that they thought was like a Xanax or something like that. And it was... An opiate, an opioid of some kind. And it killed them both. And this poor mom woke up the next morning thinking her kids were safe asleep.

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She had seen them home from the party only to wake up the next morning to find out her 18 and 19 year old boys. I know it's horrific. But one of the things she said to me was, I'm a nurse. And her husband was there too. And they said, we talked to our boys about drugs, about all the dangers. We were aware of the dangers, but we hadn't thought about this.

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Like a friend gives you a pill at a party and you should not trust it. Or you're at a friend's house and they take a bottle out of their mom's medicine cabinet.

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Oh, nice. Go orange. All right. Well, so I was not offered a joint by you because we weren't in the same place at the same time.

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But can I say something? My audience knows I've never tried a drug. I mean, I've done alcohol, but that's it. No drugs. I don't know. I'm sort of a Pollyanna, I guess, in that lane. But Doc, I mean, even more so now, I mean, I'll talk to my kids about this too. Like, You can't take a pill. You can't take a thing. You think you're not taking fentanyl.

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You think you're taking like a muscle relaxant or something to take the edge off before a big exam. What you're really taking is your life in your hands.

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All right, so last but not least, fentanyldeathincorporated.com. But when they go there, the movie's not yet posted. When is it actually going to be posted? Because now they're going to want to watch it.

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Okay, well, we'll give it another push when it hits. You guys let us know. This is too important. And I really appreciate you doing this. I'll just say this before you go. To you in particular, Billy, we've had some actors who get behind a cause of one sort or another, and they won't come on the show because they think I'm a conservative or my audience is more conservative.

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And I find it just shameful because conservatives have kids, too, and they have addiction problems, too. And I really respect the fact that I'm sure we disagree on virtually all matters political, but that you came here anyway out of respect to my audience.

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Well, and one day we have to talk about the fact that you went to high school with the accused Long Island serial killer.

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I got to just ask you, like when you heard the story, did your jaw drop? Were you like, what?

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Tragic. You never know. Guys, thank you again so much. Again, I want to tell the audience, go check it out, fentanyldeathincorporated.com and think about what we talked about today. Have that tough conversation with your kids, even if you think you've already had it and with your friends and with everybody you possibly can because too many people think they know and they don't.

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What do you make of what Gavin Newsom is doing right now with this podcast? Because I've said I don't I'm against conservatives going on his podcast because I think it's helping him train for 2028.

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So you don't see him as the Dems' great white hope from California for 2028?

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causing Mr. Trump to rescind that invitation. Quarterback Jalen Hurts, however, opting to skip the event. Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt releasing a statement reading, quote, the vast majority of the team is coming, and those who cannot attend had scheduling conflicts. And that'll do it for your AM Update. I'm Megyn Kelly.

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In 100 days, the second Trump administration flipping U.S. immigration policy on its head, dismantling four years of Biden-era policies that effectively opened the southern border. President Biden taking a series of steps to reverse Trump-era policies, ending the Remain in Mexico program that required asylum seekers to wait outside the U.S. for their court hearings.

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Terminating Title 42 expulsions, a COVID-era policy that allowed the government to quickly remove illegal aliens as public health threats. Launching mass parole programs, facilitating the arrival of hundreds of thousands of migrants from countries like Venezuela and Haiti.

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and expanding catch-and-release practices, leading to a tremendous backlog of illegal immigrants waiting for their never-coming court dates. President Biden then asking Congress to pass an immigration reform bill, saying without their help, his hands were tied.

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President Trump cruising to victory largely on a promise to lock down the border. On January 20th, the second Trump administration getting right to work. President Trump signing a series of immigration-related executive orders, declaring a national emergency at the southern border, reinstating the Remain in Mexico policy.

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Terminating the CBP One app used by the Biden administration to make it easier for migrants to enter the country and many, many more. The result, a historic drop in illegal border crossings. In March, total border patrol encounters totaling 7,100 and change. representing a 95 percent decrease from the same time period in 2024.

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We spoke to Todd Bensman, fellow at the Center for Immigration Studies and author of Overrun, How Joe Biden Unleashed the Greatest Border Crisis in U.S. History, about the historic effort.

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In an exclusive interview, Center for Immigration Studies fellow Todd Benzman breaks down the Trump administration's historic crackdown at the southern border. So many people are saying, you've got to run again. President Trump speaks with The Atlantic about his first 100 days and what may be coming next.

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That last reference to root causes, recalling Vice President Kamala Harris's tenure as Biden's border czar, during which she was supposed to prioritize addressing migration through foreign aid initiatives in Central and South America, rather than through direct enforcement at the U.S. border.

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On Monday, President Trump's border czar, Tom Homan, highlighting the dramatic turnaround in morale among Border Patrol and ICE agents under the Trump administration.

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Mr. Bensman saying the damage ran even deeper, describing how Biden-era policies stripped agents of their core mission, crippling enforcement efforts at the border and and inside the country as well.

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And which Philadelphia Eagles Super Bowl star spent a morning golfing with President Trump ahead of his team's visit to the White House? And which didn't show up at all? All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update. Are you a yo-yo dieter? You diet, lose weight, then you gain it all back plus a few. Then later you lose it again and the same cycle continues.

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In the initial weeks of the second Trump administration, the president receiving strong public support for his handling of the border. February polling from Pew Research showing 59% of U.S. adults approved of his efforts to deport individuals in the country illegally.

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However, a Friday poll from ABC slash Washington Post finding 53 percent of Americans now disapprove of President Trump's handling of immigration. The possible shift in public sentiment following intense and slanted media focus on emotional cases. Stories, Mr. Benzman says, are designed to undercut support for the administration's enforcement policies.

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One such story now making headlines, claiming that the Trump administration deported three American citizen children from two families to Honduras. On Friday, there were three American citizen children born here who were deported along with their mothers from Louisiana down to Honduras. A U.S. district judge says the deportation, quote, had no meaningful process.

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This gets at the central question about whether the administration is moving too aggressively, too quickly to carry out these mass deportation operations.

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Secretary of State Marco Rubio and Border Czar Tom Homan dumping cold water on those reports.

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Mr. Benjamin saying the decrease in public support is part of a strategy by the president's detractors to stymie his agenda.

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Coming up, President Trump reveals to The Atlantic magazine just how seriously he's considering a run for a third term in office. And a star Philadelphia Eagles player snaps back at critics angered by his round of golf with President Trump. Tax day may have passed, but for millions of Americans, the real trouble is just the beginning.

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Call 1-800-958-1000 or visit tnusa.com slash Megan. You may have missed April 15th, but you haven't run out of options. Let Tax Network USA help before the IRS makes the next move. On Monday, The Atlantic dropping a lengthy piece chronicling the president's political comeback from the lowest days in the aftermath of January 6th until now.

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The piece, which includes excerpts from an interview with the president, coming as a shock given The Atlantic's contentious history with Mr. Trump. publishing the infamous suckers and losers story during Mr. Trump's first term, claiming he disparaged fallen troops during a 2018 trip to France.

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At least 21 Trump officials, including John Bolton, no friend to Mr. Trump, went on record denying that claim. More recently, The Atlantic triggering Trump 2.0's first major scandal after National Security Advisor Mike Walz mistakenly looped in Mr. Goldberg on a chat discussing attacks on Houthi rebels.

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Last Thursday, President Trump posting on Truth Social that he would be meeting with, quote, "...of all people, Jeffrey Goldberg, the editor of The Atlantic, and the person responsible for many fictional stories about me."

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Mr. Trump adding that Mr. Goldberg would be joined by Michael Scherer and Ashley Parker, quote, not exactly pro-Trump writers, saying he was doing the interview, quote, out of curiosity to see if the Atlantic could be truthful, adding, the way I look at it, what can be so bad? I won.

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President Trump telling the Atlantic the second term feels much different from the first, saying, quote, the first time I had two things to do, run the country and survive. I had all these crooked guys. And the second time, I run the country and the world. The president later saying, quote, I'm having a lot of fun considering what I do. He said, you know, what I do is such serious stuff.

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The report describes a 2024 team much more focused on building a government committed to the president's agenda. One staffer summing up the new strategy, telling The Atlantic, quote, don't hire anyone who wasn't committed to the agenda the last time. Despite the natural confidence boost of winning the popular vote,

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The Atlantic reporting President Trump recognizes and accepts certain limitations on his presidential power. From the piece, quote, quote, referring to James Boasberg, the federal district court judge who had tried to stop deportations of Venezuela migrants to El Salvador. But Trump then referenced the Supreme Court's more congenial opinion in Trump v.

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U.S., which had given him immunity from criminal prosecution for anything he does as part of his core official duties as president. Quote, of executive power. In recent weeks, the president publicly floating the idea of a third term.

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The president even selling Trump 2028 hats. The Atlantic asking directly if Mr. Trump tasked the DOJ with studying the feasibility of running again. The Atlantic writes he said he had not, but then seemed to leave open the possibility. Was this the rare Democratic norm he was unwilling to shatter? That would be a big shattering, wouldn't it? He mused, laughing.

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Well, maybe I'm just trying to shatter. He noted twice that his supporters regularly shout for him to seek a third term, but concluded, It's not something that I'm looking to do, and I think it would be a very hard thing to do. The president also addressing the fallout from the Atlantic's so-called Signalgate story.

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In recent weeks, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth facing a steady stream of media reports portraying the Pentagon as chaotic and out of control. President Trump once again standing by his team, saying of Hegseth, quote, I think he's going to get it together. I had a talk with him, a positive talk, but I had a talk with him.

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Trump also said that Waltz was fine despite being beat up by accidentally adding Goldberg to the Signal chat. What had Trump told his staff after the controversy? Maybe don't use Signal, OK? Philadelphia Eagles running back Saquon Barkley spotted on Sunday golfing with President Trump at Mar-a-Lago.

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Critics of the president quickly sounding off on X. Mr. Barkley responding on X, writing, LOL, some people are really upset because I played golf and flew to the White House with the president. Maybe I just respect the office. Not a hard concept to understand. Just golfed with Obama not too long ago and look forward to finishing my round with Trump.

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Now you get out of my mentions with all this politics and have an amazing day. The star running back and Super Bowl winner ending the post with a laughing, smiling emoji. On Monday, the Eagles attended a White House ceremony honoring their Super Bowl win, despite earlier reporting that the team might decline the invitation, as many players did during Trump 1.0.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. I'm Megan Kelly. Welcome to The Megan Kelly Show and our new normal. So much news overnight to bring you. We begin with the single biggest issue of the Trump 2024 campaign, the promises on which he's making good by the day, securing the U.S. southern border and fixing our broken immigration system.

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What kind of incentives, if any, should they be potentially offered to make them self-deport? I've heard smart people say, we don't want to pay these people anything, but if you calculate what it takes Tom Homan and team, all the agencies you just named. you know, on a, on a per immigrant basis, it's a lot of money that we're expanding to go after these guys.

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What if we could come up with a way to like, I don't know, I'm just picking a random number, like two grand. If you return to Guatemala, you know, here's a big check waiting for you. Get out and get down there and we'll work with the government to make sure these people get paid. I know it sounds outrageous to pay, but like better just to get them out of the country.

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Um, and if, if they could self deport, it would make it a whole lot easier on you guys. Is that crazy talk?

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What do you how would you describe what our military is doing right now? Because they're not allowed to do law enforcement. But I hear that they're that, you know, they can drive trucks at the southern border. They can transport people or things. So how do you see the military helping now?

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Because finally, we have a presidential order commanding that DHS, Department of Homeland Security and the Department of Defense coordinate to help stop this.

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That means a lot coming from you, Tom. I'm a huge fan of yours as well. I'm almost reluctant to keep you off of what you're doing for 30 minutes, but we have to do it because you have to keep us updated on what's happening because it's just delightful to hear about all these bad guys finally getting swept up and kicked out. Let me start with this. Is that about right now, the running total?

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How dangerous is this work? You know, we saw just this past weekend in, uh, it looks like front in Texas. There was a, an exchange of gunfire between us border patrol agents on Monday. This was near the U S Mexican border. Um, nobody was actually hit, but these are suspected cartel members. I just can't imagine. And here we have some video.

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I cannot imagine being the guys who actually have to confront the cartel members to shut this gig down.

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Tom, I have to ask you, it's not just Selena Gomez. I know you've seen the clip of her crying and she got so much blowback from her fans, her 422 million number followers on Instagram that she deleted it. But I really, you're the best person to ask about what she and others like her are missing. She purports to be so concerned about the children who Tom Homan and his team are going to deport.

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And I honestly, with all fairness to this hysterical person, I really think she's missing the full story. Here's the clip for those of you who haven't seen it.

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Tom, we watched you at a hearing, it happened years ago, across from Representative Chuy Garcia, who was taking issue with your tough-on-the-border approach and suggesting you had no heart and actually asked you, have you ever held a child in your arms? You know, a young child. And you told a terrible story about how, indeed, you had firsthand. You used to be a Border Patrol agent.

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You were on the front lines doing this work as an agent. And, um, I couldn't help but think of that five-year-old boy when I saw her crying for her people. I mean, people meantime are pointing out online, like, uh, Evita Duffy Alfonso, who comes on the show. Selena Gomez is half Italian. She has a Mexican father who wasn't in the picture. And she says her Spanish is terrible. What does she mean?

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My people, I don't know where her people are, but if she's talking about her people from Latin America, from Central America, uh, You've had experience with what happens to those people as they try to cross this border in the most harrowing of circumstances. And so far, no tears for little boys like that five-year-old.

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Tom, this is clearly personal to you. I've got to ask you, what was it like for you on November 5th when you saw the results roll in and you realized he had won and you were going to be unleashed on this thing?

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Wow. Tom Holman, everybody stay safe out there. How lucky are we? Honestly, how lucky are we to have him? You know, you've seen the combative interviews with Tom when he goes on the mainstream, whatever, you know, corporate media and everyone's always giving us such a hard time. Like, why don't you fucking ask him what he thinks, what his plan is? My God, that was fascinating.

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Just to hear what the actual problem is, what the plan is for combating it, why the problem is so bad, exactly what his motivation is. This is why corporate media is such a fail, such a failure. You've got these losers on CNN looking for their star moment so they can look tough on Tom Homan. He's trying to protect you, you absolute fools.

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How do you figure out, because I know you're prioritizing right now the ones who are also criminals on top of the illegal immigration criminal problem that they have, but they've committed a murder, they've committed a rape, they have child pornography, something like that. So how do you find these guys, Tom?

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What a pleasure to have somebody like that on board and willing to run hurt on this and not able to have his, you know, his, his steel back penetrated by these barbs that these losers try to throw at him. Good luck shaking Tom Homan. He is totally the man for the job. Love your thoughts on it. You can email me Megan at Megan Kelly.com. Wow. Feeling good.

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It's like every day is Christmas on Team Trump. Coming up next, Mark Halperin and Dan Turrentine are here. As President Trump begins his new administration, one of the top Democrats in Congress aiming to undermine the Trump agenda is Senator Dick Durbin. And according to our sponsor, the Electronic Payments Coalition, Senator Durbin has a new scheme, a government takeover of your credit card.

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Today, Americans have thousands of choices in credit cards, but they say Senator Durbin's plan will result in less competition and less security. That means more risk for your credit and your identity. Learn more at www.electronicpaymentscoalition.org and consider telling your senators to stop Dick Durbin's government takeover of your credit card before it's too late.

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We turn now to the big story in D.C. this week. Trump's cabinet nominees, three big ones, controversial ones, of course, finally get their hearings. RFKJ, Tulsi Gabbard and Kash Patel for FBI, all heading to their confirmation hearings before the Senate beginning tomorrow for what promises to be some very contentious moments to watch. And I should tell you that I, too, will be headed down to D.C.

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after the show today because I would like to take a peek at what they do to Robert F. Kennedy Jr. I feel like this show and he have somewhat of a special relationship since I think even he would tell you he probably wouldn't be there this week if it hadn't been for the four hours we did with him March of 2022 when no one would touch him. He was

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officially on the disinformation dozen list being pushed by the white house. And we found a way to get that four hour interview on all platforms, even the ones on which he'd been banned and it didn't get banned anywhere. Uh, and he will tell you that was the beginning of his road back to being sort of acceptable. It's an absurdity. I realize all that, but it had to be done. And it was done.

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And look at him now. So I will be down there tomorrow supporting him and watching to see what they throw at him. Let's get now our guest's opinion on it all. Editor-in-chief of Two-Way, Mark Halperin, and former Democratic strategist Dan Turrentine. They are both hosts of Two-Way's The Morning Meeting. Guys, great to have you.

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All right. So already there's some reports that Tulsi may be on a knife's edge. It may not like it's not guaranteed, in other words, and that there are some Republican rumblings that she might potentially not even get out of committee. And then over on RFKJ side, we've seen. Hippies after hippies, starting with the big Wall Street Journal. Not surprisingly, they don't like him.

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I mean, like, was this on the table for Joe Biden's team all along and it was just a matter of like picking up the files and going to get them?

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The way that they're going after him, though, is to suggest he is making a lot of money by referrals to big law firms. He himself is a lawyer. That's how he's paid his bills for the past 40 years. Especially those law firms that are suing vaccine manufacturers like the ones who make Gardasil, the HPV vaccine, which has caused a lot of problems that people allege anyway.

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So they're basically saying that he's got ties that he should be more open about and that he's bought and paid for just by a different set of people, Mark. So what do you foresee happening with the RFKJ confirmation hearings, two days' worth?

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Dan, didn't we talk about this or did I just read you read it on Twitter? But one of the things I remember you saying in one place or the other was that one of the things that really helped Pete Hegseth was the performance of the Democrats at the hearing.

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That if they had if they had seemed more normal, perhaps his Republican support wouldn't have been so ardent and strong, but that they played a real hand in delivering him the win.

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I think that... It's going to be interesting because there's no question, Mark, that there's a lot of dirt on RFKJ. You could go any one of a number of ways on this guy. This is like an oppo research dream, I'm sure. He's a Kennedy. He's lived a colorful life. You know, he... There's no question in the women lane, in a lot of lanes, you could land some blows.

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But my overall feeling, and I think the feeling of a lot of people who are pro-MAHA or MAHA adjacent or at least interested in what's happening over in that lane, is we don't care. We want somebody to get the bad food dyes out of the food, the things that have been banned out of our makeup for 30 years because of their carcinogens.

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We want somebody who's going to stop the revolving door at the FDA. So all these people are telling us that Oxycontin is not addictive because they want to land a job with the drug maker. That's the stuff we know he will fight. So I kind of approach this not the way I would have as a Fox News anchor 10 years ago, like, oh, he did what? Now it's like, who cares?

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Because let's face it, Trump, Dan, didn't have some love for Robert F. Kennedy Jr. He wasn't like, God, I've got to have that guy. He went to him. That happened because RFKJ had something to bring to the table. He'd already been building a movement which wasn't exactly labeled MAHA yet. That hadn't yet happened. He spent his whole life in the public health field just as a lawyer.

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He's not a doctor, but as a lawyer. And he's been arguing these issues. Yes, vaccines, but it goes well beyond vaccines, what he's tried to do, cleaning up the waters, cleaning up the air. And so that's one of the reasons why so many people, including Nicole Shanahan, his running mate, were attracted to him, even though by any measure, he's a little out there. But that's why Trump went to him.

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That's why I think he's going to get through. It's why people are going to overlook these oddities that would normally tank any nominee.

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Is it going to be harder or easier when you move on from the criminal-criminal phase to the they're just criminals because they broke our immigration laws phase and start getting those folks?

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the thing, if you look at the Maha community, it's huge. And I'm, I'm putting a lot of things in there, but you know, it's like all of it from outlived to Andrew Huberman, to all this activity on X that talks about your workout routine, your sleep routine, your food routine is big. I

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It's just a very large community that has a lot of – they're counting on him to make some changes for people who cannot or choose not to spend their lives following these accounts and worrying about the latest supplement they should take or way they should be eating. to just make it a lot easier for, for people, especially moms and dads trying to help their children live well.

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And, and like, that's how I see him. He's the, he'll be the most visible face trying to help those kids. And this is the letter that you referenced, Mark. I'll, I'll read you in part what this is because we're going to hear a lot about it tomorrow.

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So the Washington Post has gotten its hands on a letter that Caroline Kennedy, the daughter of JFK, who, yes, would be a first cousin to RFK Jr., has written to the senators, the Democratic senators, I guess, maybe all the senators, such as lawmakers ahead of his confirmation hearings.

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They say she warned the senators about him calling her cousin a predator whose victims have ranged from family members to the parents of sick children. They say she alleges that he is addicted to attention and power. I mean, grab a number in Washington has given hypocritical advice by discouraging parents from vaccinating their children while vaccinating his own children.

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He's quite open about that fact, actually. She alleged that his crusade against vaccination has also served to enrich him. That's potentially a reference to that law firm relationship and him getting, you know, referral fees for these law firms that are suing big vaccine makers. In some cases, she writes, I have known Bobby my whole life. We grew up together.

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It's no surprise that he keeps birds of prey as pets because he himself is a predator. And this is low. She goes on to claim that through the strength of his personality and Other family members followed Kennedy Jr. down the path of drug addiction. This is ridiculous, you guys. Did JFK follow RFK Jr. down the path of addiction with all of his pills and his medical problems?

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Like, he's the first Kennedy to invent addiction? I mean, there's long problems written about with his mom. Um, his uncle Ted who killed a woman in Chappaquiddick, like what is she trying to blame it all with RFKJ as the source of the Kennedy addiction problem, his basement, this part's weird and not great.

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His basement, his garage, his dorm room were centers of the action where drugs were available. Not that part. We knew that. And he enjoyed showing off how he put baby chickens and mice in the blender to feed his Hawks. It was often a perverse scene of despair and violence. Um,

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It's not great, but I watched Sarah Palin stand in front of one of those machines that they were just chucking chickens in, and one second they had their heads, and the next second they didn't. It was kind of a discussion piece, but it didn't end her political career, Mark.

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Yeah. I mean, this group, NIH, Dr. Fauci was in the news over the past couple of years for tests that were being done on puppies, actual products that were being done on little puppies, beagle puppies. So, I mean, spare me with their newfound animal rights campaign. They didn't seem to mind when it was the god, Dr. Anthony Fauci. Mark and Dan, stay with us. Quick break. We'll be right back.

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Like there's not total confidence that she's going to get through. And here too, we're starting to see the drip drip of hit pieces on her. I mean, this one that just dropped in the Daily Beast, is ridiculous.

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First, I'll just give you the color on the Hill reports that Gabbard's path through the Intel community narrows ahead of Cree, a key heating saying hearing saying Republicans are cautioning that her path to confirmation, um, is narrowing as she seemingly has trouble winning over key GOP senators. They're saying of the nominees yet to be confirmed, she is the one who has the most tenuous path, uh,

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Um, she cannot afford to lose a single vote on the Intel committee and they're not sure she's even got all the Republicans on it. But what we see then is a hit piece by the daily beast. And I'm sure we're going to see more. We saw one by NBC late last week, which was more substantive, or at least to try to be this one is when she was 15, they have a picture of her at an event in

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In just the first week of Trump's presidency, Immigration and Customs Enforcement has arrested more than 3,500 illegal immigrants. ICE has conducted operations in multiple states across the country with a focus on national security and public safety threats. It is incredible to see our brave law enforcement officers taking action to make our country safe again.

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Let's see, a ritual dedicated to Chris Butler, the leader of the Science of Identity Foundation, where she was a student at one of its boarding schools. They say this person who she was paying homage to, Butler, had ranted anti-gay hate on a tape in the late 90s. I mean, that's it. That's what we've got, Dan.

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Do we have an idea of how many are in the first group of truly bad hombres who you're getting who have committed other crimes?

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When she was a teenager, not even able to drive, they've got a picture of her at some guy's, I don't know, ritual. It doesn't even seem that here he was saying anti-gay things, just that he did say them. And I suppose the 15-year-old Tulsi should have known exactly what he was saying at all times.

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Yeah. This is what's so interesting, Mark, is it's like, you know, the, I think of our friend Glenn Greenwald, I think of our friend Tucker, you know, people who are very vocal about the national security apparatus and how it's been used many times too many on the American people, how there's a great distrust of these agencies and how they're very

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very trigger happy in getting us the whole intelligence apparatus and in coordination with DOJ, DOD into these wars. And one of the reasons they like her is she's more like minded to them. She's suspicious of these tools we've used. She is not a knee jerk. Putin's a devil just because he's done bad things? Is there more of a strategic aspect to be examined with somebody like that?

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The Bashar al-Assad meeting in Syria is going to be a big theme when she appears on Thursday, no question. But all that stuff is kind of the point of her nomination.

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Oh, the big story on X today is people mad that the vote on her is going to happen behind closed doors because the Intel committee is going to do one piece of the hearing in front of everybody where it'll be all, you know, swords and daggers and everybody will try to look super tough and then they'll go behind closed doors to do the classified stuff. And that's where things get real.

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And that's where they do the vote too. And many people are upset because they want to know how their Senator votes. But I mean, let me stick with you on this, Mark. If If the vote, if she doesn't get out of committee, we're going to find out who tanked her.

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Dan, what is the likelihood that the Democrats use their time to try to make her look like a spy? like we've heard it said by Hillary Clinton and others. And then that NBC report was all about... Tulsi Gabbard did go over as a Democratic congresswoman to visit with Bashar al-Assad in Syria. The report was that that was not the stated purpose of the trip.

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She was supposed to be meeting with lesser thans. And that as soon as she got there, the first thing she did was go and sit down with Bashar al-Assad for three hours, which they make a big deal out of. Not normal for a congresswoman. And the clear implication, though not explicit in the piece, was she's a spy. But it's like... What did she then do for Syria?

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Walk me through how he then recruited her and turned her against the United States. I don't I but I feel like this is where they're going to go.

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Oh, interesting. Yeah, they will fully rally around cash. I mean, the FBI, that is a hill that MAGA will die on for sure. But I think he's not going to have any trouble getting through. So we'll spend more time on him as the week progresses, but not today. I want to get to some other stuff that Trump is doing. It truly is like drinking from a fire hose. There's so much news. He's doing so much.

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Like we might be getting rid of the federal income tax. Like that's... I... I don't know, but he kind of threw it out there. Yeah. Okay. I think he said, yeah, listen, it's not 20 where he gave a speech last night. Doral, Florida.

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If he managed to change the Constitution and if we got rid of the income tax, Mark, I think the country really would keep him president for life. I think they'd be so grateful. They'd amend it to allow him to stay forever.

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We're not done, not by a long shot. Here's another soundbite of him yesterday in Doral, Florida, listing a bunch of stuff. Listen to SOP 23.

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Now, this is very popular, especially on the right, Dan. The Iron Dome, I mean, National Review, which as you know, this is not President Trump's number one fan group. They did a big editorial today praising him for the Iron Dome thing, saying there are a lot of people who think we've spent a couple billion on Israel's Iron Dome. Why don't we have something like that?

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No, we've never been attacked in that particular way. It would protect against ballistic missiles, that kind of thing, not a nuclear bomb. But why wouldn't we be looking forward at the future threats? especially in the wake of the whole drone thing. What happened to the drone story? Whatever happened to the drones? We went on Christmas vacation and everybody forgot about it.

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Is this still happening, my friends in New Jersey? Okay, there's that. Transgender out of military. He said the ideology, but he also means the people. Transgenders are out, pursuant to an executive order yesterday, saying... can't have it. Can't be dealing with those mental issues or the leave that's needed for the medical procedures.

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You can't even serve in the military if you have eczema, which I didn't know. And you certainly can't serve if you've got this level of mental challenge. No more CRT, he said, DEI in the military. And that last one is very popular, full reimbursement, back pay and reinstatement to the existing rank for the some 8,000 service members who got booted because they wouldn't take

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the COVID jab, your take on all of those, or does one jump out to you as, you know, most worthy of discussion?

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Yeah, they seem rudderless, Dan. Like, who's who's the leader? You know, who's the spokesperson for the Democrats these days?

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You know, what's amazing is you have such support for what you're doing right now. You sit down with the left wing media and you would never know that the vast majority of the American people are 100 percent behind you and what you're doing right now in particular. The vast majority of Americans want illegals deported, period, irrespective of whether they've committed another crime while here.

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Well, I'm concerned for you that it might be Joy Reid. I regret to inform you, it might be Joy Reid. It's an unfortunate development for you normal Democrats. You should not allow this ascent. Tom Homan was our guest the first half hour, and he mentioned this nutcase who was out there last night comparing the Republicans and the immigration sweep to the Nazis and the Holocaust.

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And she finished that, uh, whole diatribe Mark by accusing Elon of doing a Nazi salute at the Trump rally, which we've been over ad nauseum. I like, I don't, obviously she doesn't have a lot of sway with Democrats, but is it shocking to you that she still has the post she does on MSNBC?

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You've got CNN not doing much better. They have Scott Jennings on there, as you've surely seen, Dan. And he's doing yeoman's work trying to defend the Trump administration. He's literally the one Republican they put on with a panel of all Democrats. I include the anchors in that.

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And he got into a dust up last night with this woman from The Washington Post named Catherine Rampell, who used to be the theater critic. I think, over at The Times. So this has enabled her to opine on whether, for example, Pete Hegseth is qualified to run the Department of Defense, saying his only real qualification is he was on Fox News.

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But when you ask them, how about those who actually have criminal records? Listen to this. New York Times Ipsos poll, New York Times Ipsos poll, January of 2025. 87 percent of Americans want immigrants who have who have committed crimes deported. That includes 83 percent of Democrats, 83 percent AP and ORC poll January 2025.

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Kind of just wiping out all that time he spent with a gun in Iraq and Afghanistan and at Gitmo. She's reduced him to a Fox TV host as though Trump had nominated Brian Kilmeade. She's back at it over there and She decides to go after Musk, who, honestly, find me a billionaire.

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Even Bill Ackman, who's, you know, constantly posting on X about 10-7 and what's been happening at universities and is probably the main reason Claudine Gay went down at Harvard. Like, find me a billionaire. that's done more to call attention to what's happened to the Jewish people in Israel than Elon Musk. He went over there, he toured it with Ben Shapiro.

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He's been wearing a necklace to represent the hostages since a parent of a hostage gave it to him. He said he won't take it off until they're all home. He's made repeated public statements about it. He went to Auschwitz. He recirculates their movies, like calling attention to this.

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He's a Nazi because he did the touch the heart and then the alleged salute thing and watch this exchange she had with Scott Jennings.

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I like, I can't. Can I just tell you a little backstory about this woman? So she attacked Pete in the way I said, I came on the air and pointed out she's a theater critic and she should shut up. She doesn't know anything. And then she posted on X. She was all offended because people were writing nasty things to her. Oh, thanks a lot, Megyn Kelly.

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Let me explain something to you, Catherine, about being in the public eye. If you're going to go on CNN and you're going to offer inane opinions, people are going to comment on them, and then you might get some nasty tweets. It's called being an adult on the internet. Grow up. doubles down and accuses Elon Musk of a double-sig heil. And why is this happening, Dan?

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Is it because they need to take down Elon, he's too much of a threat? Or is it because identity politics and the opportunity to hit somebody for being anti-Jew or anti-Black or anti-what-have-you is so important to these far-left wingers that they just look around for any possible opportunity and then they seize on it?

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They just see it where it isn't there because they've trained their brains that there are racists and Nazis everywhere among us.

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Do you support deporting all immigrants who are here illegally, who have been convicted of a violent crime? You've got 89 percent of Republicans, 77 percent of independents, 79 percent of Democrats favor that. I mean, it's just a clear mandate what you're doing right now. But what we get instead is the sanctuary cities like Chicago boohooing Tom Homan.

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If he's a Nazi, he's very bad at it. This is not how it's done, Elon. You do not express love for the Jewish people. You do not lament their hostage taking. You do not go pay homage at Auschwitz to those killed in the Holocaust. It's not a thing that you're doing it all wrong.

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Yeah, this is why like in a courtroom, you have to be very careful because once you lose your credibility with a judge or the jury, you're toast. You cannot get it back, which is why you don't over-promise and under-deliver. You don't make big accusations that you cannot support because then they don't trust you anymore.

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And they stop listening to you on the critical things that you actually could potentially deliver on for your client. So you just you never do it. And they do it. It's like their favorite trick over on the left. I do want to ask you a question about Elon. Two things in the news about him today.

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This one hit yesterday that Susie Wiles, Trump's chief of staff, kept him out of the West Wing that he reportedly or his team. And he wanted an office in the West Wing for Doge. And she relegated them to the executive office building. Doge entirely and Elon as well. So he's not going to be in the West wing suggesting she, she's going to rule with an iron fist.

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So mean he's sending these terrible agents into our children's schools to harass eight year olds, which isn't true. Let's just start with that. What they've said about what you did in Chicago is a lie.

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This wasn't about Elon, but she's on record as saying, if I don't want any stars, you know, I don't want anybody sort of standouts. President Trump is the star. Like everybody here is in a supporting role and we work together to advance his agenda. So what does that tell you? If anything?

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Yeah. I mean, you've got you mentioned his five companies. And it's like you forget that not only does he own X, but he's got, yes, SpaceX, that whole, you know, thing that's better than NASA. Now, he's got the boring company where he's boring through the ground right now with high speed train work. He's got Neuralink. which could potentially solve paralysis one day.

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It's already, they're inserting a chip into somebody's brain. They've already done it to allow your brain, just your brain only to control like a computer pad in front of you, just with your thoughts and it's working. That's just step one. Think of where they'll be 20 years from now. Then there's Tesla. I mean, it's insane the number of things he has going on.

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It's truly like roaming the earth at the same time as an Albert Einstein or Howard Hughes, one of these larger than life characters who will be remembered for generations. And just like Trump, he will be. His name will be a household name for generations to come. So my own feeling is if he wants access... Just keep him happy. The fact that he wants to serve in any capacity is such a boon.

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And I think the only thing he wants for his companies is less red tape. He's just been so clear about the red tape hassles. But wait, one more question while we're on the subject of Elon. Vivek resurfaced last night after getting pushed out of Doge and tried to tell Jesse Waters he was not pushed out of Doge. Listen.

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Okay, well, I just, listen, I've got to be honest. That did not strike me as truthful at all. My audience knows I do my Phil Houston spy the lie analysis on everybody, Republican and Democrat. And so is it true he didn't get along? I think that's incorrect. That is not what truth sounds like. if they say, Megan, do you get along with Mark and Dan? I say, yeah, we get along. Great.

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I really like those guys. If you say, Megan, do you get along with Bill O'Reilly? I say, um, well, didn't end well, right? Like it's come on. I think that's incorrect. Suggest. It's true that they didn't, they didn't get along. And then the, I was working on a constitutional revival. What is that? They were working on Doge. The whole thing is department of governmental efficiency.

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They were trying to slash prices or efficiency, find efficiency so they could slash costs. Um, yes, Vivek has written about, you know, constitutional revival and he's written a lot of interesting things about it, but that, that was not the mission at Doge. And lastly, um, so he didn't fire you. No, it was a mutual discussion.

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And that's, that's contrary to the reporting and also doesn't sound like a truth teller. I just gotta be honest. That's, that's my take on it. But have you guys done any reporting on this? And you definitely have sources in and around these two, I'm sure. So what do you, what do you know? Anyone?

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Yeah, I think it's better. I honestly think it's better, Dan, for somebody in Vivek's position there to say, yeah, it didn't work out in the end. I love Elon, but, you know, we have two big personalities. He was running herd on it. I had a different view, and that's fine. We're all in great hands. I think it's better to just be honest because I think people know.

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But, yes, he's going to go run for governor of Ohio. And how do you like his chances there? Right now they've got Governor Mike DeWine, who is not a MAGA type at all. Ohio's only gotten redder. So how do you like his chances there? And what do you think about the Missouri Democrat senator saying he's not going to run for reelection?

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So it's an open seat now that happened to Michigan, Michigan, Michigan, Michigan.

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It's fascinating. Trump won Michigan. But it's not red. It's not Ohio. So the Republicans have got to be eyeballing that seed as like, it'd be great to not have to worry about that fourth vote. 54 is a lot better than 53. Mark, Dan, we'll stay on it, as I know you will. It's a pleasure, my friends. Thanks for being here.

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Okay. And we'll be right back with a few more stories that we have to bring to you today, including an update on this crazy Justin Baldoni thing. And why does Captain America hate America? I'm Megyn Kelly, host of The Megyn Kelly Show on Sirius XM. It's your home for open, honest, and provocative conversations with the most interesting and important political, legal, and cultural figures today.

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Just a couple more stories that we wanted to get to today, including an update on the Justin Baldoni dust up with Blake Lively. You know that Justin and his team promised to start releasing all of his correspondence with her. They're saying will be an open book. This is not a nice person.

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And Justin bent over backwards to accommodate her many, many demands, which included, according to him, taking over the film, rewriting scenes, all of which is very irregular for the co-star. That's what the producer does, maybe a director, certainly a writer, none of which she was.

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But they're saying she decided she wanted to take over and use the power of her fame and name and that of her husband, Ryan Reynolds, to bully Justin Baldoni into the fetal position.

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And this has been released now, according to TMZ, they're sourcing Justin saying he's following through on his vow to release all his communications with Blake Lively, uh, really revealing a nearly seven minute apology. He sent her at 2 AM while they were working on the film. It ends with us. You, the audience may recall this all got started because she came out.

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in the New York Times alleging that she'd been sexually harassed by him and that he, to keep it secret, generated an inorganic Blake Sucks media campaign against her last summer when the movie was released. It had people like the New York Times and others saying, gee, we have to rethink all the bad press that we read or wrote about Blake Lively.

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Were we used by a sexual harasser trying to smear her? And this led Justin to eventually speak out saying that this is all BS that I didn't harass her in any way, shape or form. She tried to steal my movie from her. I bent over backward to accommodate her. Her alleged claims of sexual harassment are complete BS. Here's what really happened.

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Released their actual texts, putting things like he watched me breastfeed naked in my trailer in context. When we saw texts from her saying I'm breastfeeding in my trailer, come on over. And they've gone tit for tat in the – nice pun right after the breastfeeding – ever since in the media.

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So this is just the latest salvo, and I will play you a two-minute summary of the seven-minute groveling apology he sent her in this voicemail at 2 a.m. It's interesting, by the way, he has it. I guess he was taping his own – voicemails. Cause I, this is according to TMZ coming from him or his team, not from her. I think the point of it is to show us that he was not some evil harasser.

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He was, as I, he was subjugated to her and Ryan Reynolds and clearly afraid of both of them. This guy's been to a little, a few too many, how to be a feminist classes to take a listen.

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He's an odd man. This is an odd, odd man. I can't imagine receiving a seven minute, I guess it was a voice memo that he wrote, he did on his own phone center. Why? Nobody wants a seven minute voice memo or voicemail from anybody. Even just a call seems aggressive in 2025, doesn't it? When somebody calls you, it seems aggressive. but never in a seven minute.

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So there's speculation that this may be what one of the things, cause I, it sounds like they'd already had their fight that night where Ryan Reynolds reamed him out.

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But you know, you tell me whether your husband wants a man calling you at two in the morning and whether there was something between these two that got Ryan Reynolds back up, you know, that made him a little concerned that had her running to the harassment. I It's one of the theories that's out there.

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What I hear is an emasculated man who is probably not a harasser, but is a bootlicker begging for his star to treat him well and let him participate in his own movie, which doesn't exactly make Justin look great, but it certainly doesn't support her narrative that he was this evil, brutal, bully, sexual harasser and Poor little meek, powerless Blake just had to deal with his aggressive advances.

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That's just so obviously a lie at this point. Like, I don't know. She's made herself into Amber Heard. We all see it. This was a massive disaster for her to unleash this PR campaign against him, which, by the way, Brian Friedman told us she started. She was the one through her PR agent who was dropping negative stories about Justin, not the other way around.

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She played with fire and now she got burned. This isn't going to end well for you, Blake. Sorry. By the way, his book in 2021 was called Man Enough, Undefining My Masculinity. And he did a whole podcast trying to undefine his masculinity. Justin, you succeeded. You're good. You can stop unspooling now because there's no thread left on that thing. Okay. Captain America.

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There's an actor who's playing Captain America and his name is Anthony Mackie. And he decided to do a promotional event Monday in Roma. And here is what he said.

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Honestly, it's like they want us to hate these Hollywood stars, you know, like Snow White. Well, she's not going to be rescued by a prince. I can tell you that. And now this guy, Captain America, I can tell you what Captain America is not about America. Hello, you complete fool. It's in the name. There's like two things Captain America is about. It's being a captain of America for America.

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It's written right in there. They idiot proofed it, my friend. You You don't even have to try hard. No, it's about being dignified. Oh, because that's not American. You see, why do they keep casting these people in these iconic American roles who hate the country? This is why the right half of the country hates you, Holly weird and Disney and the people who put together these films.

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I'm sick of this nonsense. So put another one on your list. Not to see comes out in two weeks. Captain America, who appears to hate the country. Um, okay. Last but not least New York magazine, you won't be surprised, um, has done a hit piece on conservatives, but this one is so interesting because it's totally backfired on them. They, they put out, let me just walk you through it. Okay.

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So they first, they put out this cover of New York magazine and it shows an event at inauguration weekend. Um, I think that was put together by CJ Pearson, who not for nothing is a young black conservative. And The headline for the listening audience is the cruel kids table, the cruel kids table for New York magazine. And what you see on the front is a collection of absolutely beautiful, happy,

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seemingly optimistic world at our fingertips, 20s and 30s folks celebrating Trump's win and the promise that it brings for what again? America. That's for you, Captain. And what we got from New York Magazine was a smear piece that tried to tell us they're racists and and cropped the picture to eliminate the black participants.

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So look at the larger picture, the larger spread that appeared inside the magazine, but not on the cover, where you can see on screen left, there are one, two, three, at least four black men who have been cropped out of the picture. It's really shocking. I mean, I guess it's not that shocking, but it's an obvious hit piece on MAGA.

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And what they've actually wound up doing, and I do mean they, because the person who wrote this uses the pronoun they, I'm sorry, but they is taken, Brock Collier. They is not available to you. I think Brock is a he going by they. I refuse. I'm going to call you he. Brock thinks he has it all figured out.

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And then I guess if he just puts a bunch of beautiful white people on the cover of New York Magazine, it's going to make us hate MAGA. What I think is going to happen is young, bitter, shaved head leftists with their little blue bracelets and their huge glasses are going to look at these youthful, gorgeous, glowing, optimistic world at their fingertips, young people and say, I wish I could get in.

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Mm hmm. I read that you think the Illinois governor and the Chicago public school CEO, Pedro Martinez, owe you an apology for spreading these lies. They came out and said, well, you read in part with what the governor said, but he said after a week of Republicans sowing fear and chaos, the first reports of raids in Chicago are at an elementary school targeting children and separating families.

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I want in with that cruel, with that not cruel, cool crowd and not look at them as the cruel table because the evidence of cruelty is they say the word retard and they're not sorry. Okay. That is a backlash against wokeism where people have had it with having their language policed.

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Um, this guy, I think tried to win me over and stopped me from doing the segment at the end where he tried to compliment this show saying he had apparently taken to it. Um, I have no idea really what it was, but he was saying that these folks no longer have any patience for identity warriors. He said, a friend and I started swapping clips of MK on Instagram. We thought they were hilarious.

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Our favorite was her take on the fires in LA. The last thing I want to see if I'm burning in a burning building is a, a woman and be an obese woman. You're almost there, but In any event, they still don't get MAGA. They don't get old MAGA. They don't get middle MAGA. They don't get young MAGA. And that is why they will continue to lose and remain rudderless, as we discussed with Dan Turrentine.

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Thanks for joining me today. We'll see you tomorrow from D.C. after the RFKJ hearings. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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is cruel and un-American. And then you had this guy, Pedro Martinez, make similar false claims. Have you received an apology?

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The what actually wound up happening was it was Secret Service responding to a specific threat reportedly that they had received from a school. And they just decided that it was ice and to demonize you and your team because they have political reasons for doing that.

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Notwithstanding, as I say, 87 percent support Republicans, Democrats, independents across the board favor mightily what you're doing now and also favored by a clear majority, 55 to 60 percent, depending on the poll. Your next step, which is going after illegal immigrants who have not been convicted of crimes.

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Um, let me talk to you a bit about the numbers because 600,000 people who you know of who are here illegal and on top of it, uh, have committed crimes. And then 1.4 million, you said people who were adjudicated no on their asylum claims, but then we didn't throw them out. We just said, Oh, well you didn't get asylum, but then Joe Biden did nothing.

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So they just went on living their merry lives in the States. So that's 2 million right there. And then that doesn't even count all the others, right? Who just sneaked across the border and we know they're here, but we don't know where they are. So this is where I start to get depressed, Tom.

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I listen to you talk and I feel uplifted, but then I start to get depressed because even though you guys are doing Yeoman's work and you're finally all working together, let's call it a thousand a day. You know, that's, it's not quite there, but let's just call it a thousand a day. And I did a little math, which is a stretch for me. That brings us to 365,000 in a year times four years.

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That brings us to 1.46 million. So that's less than the two million we just discussed, those first two groups, over four years, over Trump's four years, which makes me think, ah, how are we going to get all these people out? You know, we're talking between 12 and 20 million illegals in the country right now. I know it's big, but how do we digest those numbers?

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FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino announcing on X the Bureau's decision to reopen or provide additional resources to three high-profile investigations. The cocaine discovered in the Biden White House, the leak of the Supreme Court's Dobbs decision overturning Roe v. Wade, and the January 6th pipe bombs investigation.

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The FBI is searching for answers regarding the two functioning pipe bombs placed outside of the RNC and DNC headquarters the night before the January 6th, 2021 Capitol riot. According to the FBI, between 7.30 and 8.30 p.m. on January 5th,

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FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino announcing renewed FBI investigations into the cocaine found in the Biden White House, the Dobbs Supreme Court leak and the January 6th pipe bomber.

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an unidentified person wearing a gray hooded sweatshirt, mask, gloves, glasses, and Nike Air Max speed turf sneakers seen on security camera footage planting the bombs. The RNC pipe bomb found the next day, a young woman doing laundry, spotting it near a dumpster around 1240 p.m., rushing to alert nearby security. The DNC pipe bomb, discovered by Capitol Police,

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shortly after that, in an additional security sweep triggered by the discovery of the first bomb. At the time, Vice President-elect Kamala Harris was in the DNC building, a Homeland Security Inspector General report saying her motorcade passed within 20 feet of the bomb as it arrived. In the four years since, the FBI reviewing more than 39,000 video files, following more than 500 tips,

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Tuesday, May 27th, 2025, and this is your AM Update.

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Yet still, it has not identified the suspect or definitively said whether it's a man or a woman. In January of this year, the FBI releasing new information about the suspect.

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A reward of up to $500,000 is available for any information leading to the arrest and conviction of the suspect. Bongino also announcing the FBI will look into an incident taking place on July 2, 2023, during a routine security sweep of the White House, a Secret Service agent discovering a small bag of cocaine in a cubby located just steps away from the Situation Room.

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Lab tests later confirming it contained less than a gram of cocaine. At the time, President Biden and family were in Camp David for the Fourth of July holiday, but had been at the White House just two days before. Press Secretary Corrine Jean-Pierre telling reporters the matter was under investigation at the time, noting the location was a

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heavily traveled area used by West Wing staff and visitors.

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The Secret Service closed the investigation 11 days later, citing a lack of physical evidence and claiming there were no fingerprints or identifiable DNA recovered from the bag. Finally, Bongino announcing further scrutiny on the May 2022 leak of the draft Supreme Court opinion in Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization. A leak the high court called, quote, an extraordinary betrayal of trust.

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The leak revealed the court had the votes to overturn Roe v. Wade, confirmed weeks later with the official release of the opinion. The leak of the draft opinion, not only highly unethical, but dangerous to the justices, whose decision to overturn such a hot-button precedent was highly controversial and could obviously lead to death threats or attempts to harm the justices.

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President Trump honoring fallen service members in a Memorial Day address at Arlington National Cemetery. Harvard University's battle with the Trump administration escalates. And a viral video appears to show French President Emmanuel Macron's wife shoving his face. What's the story there? All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update.

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Indeed, on June 8, 2022, weeks before the final ruling in Dobbs was issued, a California man was arrested with a handgun and charged with attempted murder after he confessed he planned to kill Justice Kavanaugh, in part because of the expected ruling overturning Roe. Kavanaugh joined with the majority. An eight-month probe followed into who leaked that draft opinion.

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That probe conducted by the Supreme Court marshal, Gail Curley, whose normal remit is providing security for the justices and the court buildings placed in charge by Chief Justice John Roberts. Some criticized the decision, saying the FBI might have been more effective. However, they acceded to the chief justice's decision to let the marshal handle it.

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She conducted interviews with 97 employees and a forensic review of digital records. and she failed to identify the source of the leak. Critics called the investigation incomplete, noting the justices themselves were not required to submit sworn statements. Bongino writing on X, quote, I receive requested briefings on these cases weekly, and we are making progress.

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President Trump on Monday delivering a powerful Memorial Day tribute to the fallen men and women of the U.S. military at Arlington National Cemetery.

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In otherwise largely reserved remarks, President Trump taking a subtle dig at his predecessor in a moment recognizing soldiers of the Revolutionary War.

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In more freewheeling remarks on Saturday at the West Point Commencement Ceremony, President Trump delivering some bipartisan criticism.

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The president again signaling the contrast between the Trump doctrine and the foreign policy of his predecessors. emphasizing traditional military values at home and an end to endless wars abroad. Coming up, President Trump weighing the next move against Harvard University in the crackdown on illegal displays of on-campus anti-Semitism.

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Switch to Patriot Mobile and defend freedom with every call and text you make. Patriotmobile.com slash M-E-G-Y-N or just call 972-PATRIOT. The Trump administration potentially escalating its fight with Harvard University, accusing the school of failing to address campus anti-Semitism and to enforce federal civil rights laws.

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President Trump on Monday posting to True Social, quote, I am considering taking $3 billion of grant money away from a very anti-Semitic Harvard and giving it to trade schools all across our land. What a great investment that would be for the USA and so badly needed.

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In a follow up post, Mr. Trump accusing the school of slow walking the release of information on foreign students, quote, so that we can determine after a ridiculous expenditure of billions of dollars, how many radicalized lunatics troublemakers all should not be let back into our country.

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Last week, Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem notifying the school it would lose its ability to enroll international students next year. for failing to comply with simple reporting requests relating to international students. Harvard firing back with a lawsuit calling the move retaliatory and unlawful.

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From the complaint, quote, it is the latest act by the government in clear retaliation for Harvard exercising its First Amendment rights to reject the government's demands to control Harvard's governance, curriculum, and the ideology of its faculty and students.

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The university is saying the ban will have a devastating effect on more than 7,000 visa holders who will have to transfer to other schools to maintain legal status. On Friday, Obama appointee District Judge Allison D. Burroughs temporarily blocking the administration's attempt to ban Harvard from accepting foreign students.

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Also on Friday, Treasury Secretary Scott Besson confirming to Bloomberg the administration is exploring other avenues in its fight against Harvard.

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Harvard sits on the largest university endowment fund in the world at more than $53 billion. Currently, the endowment is exempt from federal income taxes because the school is recognized as having an educational and charitable mission. However, the idea of taxing the endowment has been raised by President Trump in recent months, suggesting Harvard has become more of a political entity.

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The face shove seen round the world. A viral video appears to show French President Emmanuel Macron's wife Brigitte aggressively shoving his face with two hands on Sunday as the couple prepared to disembark from a plane in Vietnam. The Macrons had just landed for a stop on their tour of Southeast Asia when the moment was caught on camera.

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As staff opened the aircraft door, it appears Mrs. Macron can be seen placing both of her hands on the president's face with enough force to push him slightly sideways and a bit backward. President Macron, looking briefly startled, recovered quickly, realizing he was on camera, then smiling and waving to the crowd below.

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And that's because they have spent the last 35 years selecting cattle for tenderness and flavor, aging their beef to perfection for 21 days. The result is some of the most tender and flavorful beef you have ever tasted. You cannot buy beef like this in a grocery store. And since it is shipped directly from the ranch to your home, you get a much better price than going through the middleman.

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Mr. Macron later explaining the moment to reporters in remarks translated from French, quote, there's a video showing me joking and teasing my wife, and somehow that becomes a sort of geo-planetary catastrophe, with people even coming up with theories to explain it. We are horsing around and really joking with my wife.

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You can decide for yourself what it was by going to megankelly.com to view the video. Let us know what you think. I'll say this, in 17 years of marriage, I've never joked with Doug to the point of shoving his face back forcefully with both hands. But hey, that's us, the French. That'll do it for your AM update. I'm Megan Kelly.

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Join me back here for The Megan Kelly Show, live on SiriusXM Triumph Channel 111 at noon east, on youtube.com slash megankelly, and on all podcast platforms.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. We have a lot to get to today, but before we do, I have some good and exciting news that I want to share with you. And it has to do with all of you getting a lot more content from some of our and your favorite guests of The Megyn Kelly Show.

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I'm so excited about these three. Aren't these a great three to launch with? They cover the gamut, right? It's like Link has got such a following amongst young, sort of right-leaning people or independent-minded people who have just had it with the weird left. I hear from so many young people who are like, I love Link. He's got such a following. Maureen, do I even need to say anything? I mean...

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It's just like when she wouldn't say that Edward Snowden is a traitor. This is just like that, Matt.

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By the way, I think we're T minus like 72 hours before Jeffrey Goldberg releases it anyway with maybe a couple of things redacted. But I don't think he's going to stay in this like I'm above it all and I won't release it. He just I don't think he can help himself.

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Yeah, good point. Here's some more Democrat anger. It's genuine anger, I'm sure, like the kind they showed when Lloyd Austin went AWOL for days without telling anybody where he was. Oh, no, wait, that never happened. Here is Michael Bennett of Colorado sparring with, again, CIA Director Ratcliffe on who added Jeffrey Goldberg to the group.

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Walter, everybody in America knows exactly how this went down. Who added Jeffrey Goldberg? That's it. Period. Michael Bennett has spoken.

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I've never done a signal. But have you ever never have you never like misfired an email? I've like misfired an email to like you think it's going to be mom. Yeah, but instead you send it to Maury. I don't know, just something like that where like the autocomplete takes over and you go with it inadvertently. Keep going.

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We all love her. She first started coming on and I loved reading Maureen, but I didn't know how she'd do in an interview. You know, when you have to do spoken word and you could see right from the get-go, there was something special there. And the more she came on, the better she got. And now of course, she's just an A plus guest.

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But don't you think, Walter, when Mike Walls sets up your signal chat, you're like, I trust, I don't need to go pour over all 19. Like, I trust Mike Walls.

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And whenever we have her on, we get the most positive comments from all of you. So she's going to be amazing. And I love the name of that show, The Nerve. And And Mark Halperin, I mean, can you name anybody you wanted to hear from more in the lead up to the last election than Mark? It's like when Mark would speak, you'd put down your pen and listen.

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And let's remember, OK, what did they do? They discussed war plans, which went off without a hitch while inadvertently ceasing a reporter. No one's claiming this is a good thing. However, it's like in the same people who could barely muster any outrage. I mean, truly not barely who really in many cases didn't.

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muster outrage at all for the disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal, for Abbey Gate, for actual military debacles that have happened in the recent past. They said nothing. They weren't outraged. But now they want us to believe that they're really horrified that one reporter got a heads up on an action against the Houthis. I don't buy it, Walter.

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Meanwhile, all Vance said was, I'm not sure the president is aware of how inconsistent this move is with his stated goals, which is make the Europeans start paying their fair share. He wasn't saying the president is wrong to do this. He's saying, is he aware of, for example, the 40% that Europe uses these channels versus the 3% that we do? He wasn't like, Trump's an idiot. Trump's wrong.

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He was like, I don't know whether the president knows this stuff. They're having lunch today, pre-scheduled, but- Vance and Trump. But the White House is making clear there's absolutely no daylight between these two. And I will say this. I'd love to talk to you guys about the messaging now because my own take on it is Trump, as usual, is hitting just the right tone in handling. He's like...

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Walls is a good guy. Made a mistake. He'll learn, you know, like it's fine. He's he seems to totally have Mike Walls is back. That was said directly to a couple of reporters this morning. Peter Doocy was one of them. And who was the other one, Steve, who got it was an NBC reporter. Oh, Garrett. Hey, yeah. In the gaggle. Do we have that on cam Trump's tone? We do, I think. Right.

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No, we don't have that. Oh, because it wasn't on cam. But yesterday he came out. He's like, I'm just learning about this for the first time today. I think he's nailed it where he's like, yeah, you know, it's a mistake. The operation went off perfectly. And Mike Walls is a good guy. I would say, I think Pete Hegseth, who I really care about, but I think he's a little too defensive.

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He's probably feeling a little like, whoa. He's like, they're not war plans. I didn't text war plans. It's coming down to like a debate over semantics. Do we care? Like, personally, I don't really care if he texted him like a blueprint with like, and then the F-16 is going to come in here. And then if they do this, we'll do that.

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He was somebody who, you know, I always talk about how I'm doing my makeup or I'm cleaning my house or something while I'm listening to podcasts. Mark Halpern's the kind of commentator where you just stop the other thing and you just listen, and sometimes you rewind it to hear it again.

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I mean, imagine that's what an actual war plan looks like, but I have no idea. Or if it's just we're going to overwhelm them with the following air power. We've also got an aircraft carrier in there, you know, like the general things that you would be telling the Tulsi's of the world and the J.D. 's of the world to generally let them know how large or small this thing is going to be.

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So what do you make of the the the tone and the tenor of the messaging from those who are on defense today?

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And as the member Gary Johnson, what is Aleppo? What is an MSNBC running for president?

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He's extremely well-connected, very well-researched, and just a very, very stand-up guy when it comes to his political journalism. I mean, you can just take it to the bank. And so I'm thrilled that we're going to be getting into business with these three and helping promote their independent podcasts.

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I will say this, Doug Brunt, my husband, was not that long ago pulled over by a cop on his way home from dropping the kids off at school. And the cop said, do you know what you did? And Doug said, yep, I did a little bit of a rolling stop at that stop sign. The cop was like, Thank you. Thank you for admitting it and let him go. To your point, Walter, I pardon you.

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He showed benevolence and it was the ultimate power move. In Doug's defense, it's a very safe intersection. Most people come to a rolling stop, but Doug Brunt doesn't anymore because now you only get one pass out of that problem for free. In any event, this will, I think, be blown over in probably another day or two at the most. It is interesting, though, that they are already using Signal.

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You heard Ratcliffe saying that in his testimony that we got to the CIA and found out that they're using a signal all over these government devices. It was used by the Biden administration. We've confirmed that, too. They said, oh, but, you know, rarely. Well, I don't know whether that's true or not. Right. It's like maybe they didn't make the stupid mistake of copying in a reporter from Fox News.

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But look, if this is something that they don't want to have happen, it should be stricken from all administrations, not just the Republican ones. All right, let's keep going because there's a lot a lot to get through today. The matter of whether Trump was allowed to deport all these alleged trend to Aragua gang members on three flights, only two of which are at issue.

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Here's I can understand one flight's not at issue because nobody on it was being deported under the Alien Enemies Act. Two flights are at issue because the people on board were all being deported, at least in part. due to Trump's invocation of that act and his powers under it, which say if you're at war or you're suffering an invasion or some sort of incursion, the president can declare that.

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Well, Congress has to declare war, but the president can declare the other two and then classify people as parts of it. uh, you know, sort of enemy actors, and then they can be deported without due process. That's what's so appealing to the Trump administration about the alien enemies act. You can boot them really kind of no questions asked, get out. I've actually just been looking into this.

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Maybe immigration lawyers have this on the, at the ready, but here's the story under the, um, OK, under the regular immigration law where we have expedited deportation, expedited removal, you can kick somebody out if you catch him at the border. That was true for a long time under Trump, under Obama, under Biden.

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So thanks to all of you for helping make that possible for us to not just grow our show, but to help grow other shows. We're not done. By the way, you're gonna be able to find these shows on there. They'll have their own podcast feeds under those names and their own YouTube channels and their own social media accounts. And we're gonna help them build all of those. But that's not all we're doing.

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These agents who catch somebody sneaking across the border, they don't have to, like, let them have a whole hearing. Just get out. I caught you. Go back home. Kick them out. They're entitled to nothing. No due process. Nothing. OK. And it's under this expedited removal power. And it usually applies to about 100, 100 miles around the southern border.

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Well, Trump, as he did in Trump 1.0, has expanded it by executive order to reach pretty much all of the United States to where our border agents like Tom Homan, if they find you and they I don't know what the standard is, probable cause, most likely to believe that you're a Venezuelan gang member can remove you. No questions asked.

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The downside of using just that expedited removal power, which is being challenged legally, is that if the person says, I'm seeking asylum, I'm seeking asylum, you have to give them the asylum hearing. It slows the whole thing down. These illegals take advantage of that. They're not really seeking asylum. They came through four different other countries where they could have gotten asylum.

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They just want to be here. Anyway, that's why Trump decided to invoke this Alien Enemies Act, which does not allow the asylum escape hatch. And what's happening right now in courts is there's a debate about whether these people deported by Trump under their Alien Enemies Act are entitled to any level of due process. before we declare them Venezuelan gang members.

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No one's talking about striking down the Alien Enemies Act, which has already been upheld by the US Supreme Court and the Supreme Court has held there's no right to judicial review of most of the president's decisions under that act. But what's being discussed and argued both at the district court level with this Judge Boasberg and yesterday at the Court of Appeals for the D.C.

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Circuit, a three judge panel, one judge, an Obama appointee, one a George H.W. Bush appointee and one a Trump appointee is. Do these people get any sort of due process before we label them Venezuela gang members and then put them on these planes? Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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MK Media is gonna continue to expand. We're in talks with a bunch of folks and we will have more announcements to come soon. Some beyond just news and entertainment, by the way. More on that as we launch these other programs. Look, what I'm basically looking to do

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is to help promote more sane, reasonable, and ideally entertaining people who have unique perspectives and the courage to say the truth, right? It's like, I'm extremely grateful for the platform that we have and the audience that we have, but I also think it's important to... The only thing I can think is the terrible Barack Obama phrase of spread the wealth around, but what I mean is just...

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,,,,,, ,,,,,,, And I think at some level, while Judge Boasberg may not be fully thinking of this yet, Matt, the Supreme Court will be because Justice Roberts, Chief Justice Roberts knows better than anybody. There's no police power behind the courts. They we we abide by their rulings out of a sense of duty, neighborliness, order, integrity.

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You want a lot of options, right? You want to hear somebody, for example, a Maureen in the cultural lane who devotes a whole show to that, just ripping on all the big stories of the day that we don't always get to on a show like this one. That's maybe a little harder news focused.

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You know, we do a lot of culture, but it'll be great to have somebody singularly focused like that, that we can help promote. Mark too, he's almost all hard news. He doesn't really do a lot of the culture stuff. Link, he does it all, but he loves culture. He's a little younger and I think speaks to a different audience. Anyway, it's just all coming together.

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nationality, patriotism, and acceptance of a system where there is a separation of powers. But if there's too egregious an overreach, and I don't support flouting the Supreme Court mandates in their laws, for the record. But I'm just saying Chief Justice Roberts knows better than anybody that if they issue an order as specific and as extraordinary as that to the sitting commander in chief,

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it could destroy the court's power. In one ruling, it could completely destroy the Supreme Court.

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and they know it. So it's like, okay, it's one thing to say those you now have in custody have to be provided the following screening, this bare minimum of so-called due process. But the odds of them getting back those people in El Salvador are very thin, slim. And by the way,

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Trump did return a guy from Nicaragua and a woman who had erroneously both been put on those flights when they had meant only to get these Venezuelan gang members. So it's not like there's been no screening or no double-checking of what Homan is doing. They're making sure. It's just how much scrutiny are they entitled to? There's a couple of additional points on this that I do want to get to.

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I do have to take a quick break, so I'm going to do this commercial, and then we'll come back. We've got to talk about what John Harwood— formerly of CNN, tweeted out about this, among other things. Stand by. Walter and Matt, stay with me.

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So we are talking about what Tom Homan said, what Trump is doing, and whether this is a political winner for him, irrespective of what happens at the courts. This would help. This would help Tom. I mean, Trump. As John Harwood, former White House correspondent for CNN, worked for the New York Times, NBC, and so on, okay, tweets out the following. Tom Homan...

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is like an early 20th century Southern sheriff who would send a mob to find a black kid who had allegedly looked the wrong way at a white woman. The mob would bring back a kid who kind of sort of fit the description and the Homan character would say, string him up with an exclamation point. That is where he went with Tom Homan asking, where was Lake and Riley's due process, Walter?

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But this is a window into how a lot of these leftists view the issue of deportations and of closing the border, Matt.

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The show has been growing like crazy. Thanks to all of you. We are deeply grateful. And last month, as you may know, we added a new show to our podcast and YouTube feed. It's called AM Update. And the response has been super strong, far exceeded all of our hopes and expectations. If you're not consuming it, by the way, you can get it on our podcast feed or on our YouTube feed.

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It's absurd. And here's the interesting thing about this. Americans are actually really kind and nurturing and welcoming and they're caretakers. I think they have a natural tendency to be caretakers. And so that whole, give us your tired, your poor and all that, that works on the Statue of Liberty. It worked on us for hundreds of years.

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So whatever I can do to help smart, honest, fact-based voices grow in that lane, I am committed to doing, so I'm going to. Okay, so thank you. Stay tuned, and let's get to the news. And the drama over the Signal Group chat. Now, you heard this story yesterday, right?

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And it worked on us all the way up to about four years ago when Joe Biden took it to a place no one had ever taken it to before and just opened the borders. I mean, it was just absolutely dangerous what he did. It was absolutely, it was treasonous. That's how it feels, truly.

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I don't throw that term around loosely, but the jeopardy that he put us all in and the lives that have been cost from that decision, there's just no question he should be held accountable. in any event. And so the American public have had it. They've had it with this debate. The Democrats have lost it. It's one of the reasons why their party is in the toilet right now on its approval ratings.

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So the American public is behind Trump on this issue above all others. Well, this and the trans issue, they're really behind Trump. And this is why I asked my team to pull this clip. Now, hold on. I'm going to set this up. I saw a really interesting tweet thread, whatever, post thread on X a couple of weeks ago, maybe a month ago.

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And the, forgive me, I don't remember who started it, but the guy was saying, post here pictures or clips of people who are portrayed as villains in movies who you now no longer think are. right? With like just the dramatic changes that have happened in our country over the past 10 to 20 plus years. Who do you now see who was depicted so poorly in film as not a villain who you were told was?

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And this was one that I was like, oh my God, this is so true. It's not directly related to immigration, but you'll get it. It's this guy.

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That's right. And I don't really care if you have to give a few code reds to do it, Tom Homan, Colonel Jessup. I mean, I kind of think, Walter, we're all Colonel Jessup now, or at least in the mood for a Colonel Jessup.

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The long and the short of it is a group of Trump's top security officials, Pete Hegseth, Secretary of Defense, Mike Walz, National Security Advisor, and J.D. Vance, our vice president, and others were on a group text chain that I think involved 19 people in total.

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No, Lieutenant Weinberg, your time is up. We are over the soft leadership stuffed into a military outfit without ever having done a three mile run. We need the Jessups of the world right now, Matt. And I don't know what's gonna happen with the trend to Aragua gang deportations. I certainly hope the Trump administration wins this. But let's just say they get their hands slapped by some court.

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It doesn't matter. It's all worth it. We're setting up the protocols, like how far can Trump push it to get rid of these people that Joe Biden let in? And it's the same thing as like the signal gate that we kick the show off with. For the Democrats who said nothing about the floodgates being opened, I have almost no tolerance for their objections in how we now get rid of these people.

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You know, you... You've lost your moral standing to complain about any of it. You caused this entire problem, which Trump is now trying to fix and the country wants desperately to fix.

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And Mike Walz appears to have been the one, though not totally confirmed, who added, clearly accidentally, the Atlantic editor-in-chief, Jeffrey Goldberg. who's just, I mean, of all people to add, just the worst person. You know how many stories he's gotten wrong? Let me put it to you this way.

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And of course, the media wants us to believe that they're all these like sweet asylum seeking good people who just want a better life in America. And that's baloney. I mean, yes, there's some portion. And we do have asylum processes that would allow those folks if they enter through a port of entry to claim asylum. But it's been so abused that right now everything's paused right now.

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It's just, you know, we got to stop the bleeding before we can decide whether anybody else gets to come in. It's like the sign held up by Homer Simpson. Go home. The country's full. That's how that's the mood right now. Mood, as the kids say. OK, we've got to talk about the media because there's been it's not just John Harwood with his with his sins.

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Do you guys listen to The Daily, The New York Times podcast? It's called The Daily and it's on daily.

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I do it for you, Matt. I do it because you don't have to. Same thing with The View and Meghan Markle's dumb Netflix special. I'm a giver like that, guys. I watched the Markle thing. You did?

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We're going to have to do a part two on that with Matt Taibbi. Maureen, bad news. You're out. Matt Taibbi's in. Okay. So today they had on and I really like Jim Rutenberg. I have to say he's a good guy, but he's a lefty and everything he writes or says comes from that perspective. So that's just the way it is. He used to be the Times critic, like media critic.

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And he's profiled me a couple of times. That's how I got to know him. Anyway, I think he's a sweet guy, but this is his worldview, right? He comes on to talk to the host. I think it was Michael Barbaro today. And yeah, it was. And they were talking about the state of the media under Trump and how horrifying it is. They're horrified about how Trump has seems to have like taken over media.

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I'm just going to give you a few samples of this. There's so much to choose from. I guess I'll start. What do you think, Steve? Sot 10. You guys pick your fave because we have a bunch that we love. Watch.

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He thinks that Mark Milley is a patriot and wrote a whole article calling him the patriot for his promise to betray the sitting president of the United States and to tell the Chinese if we ever decided to plan some attack on them. That would be treason. That would be punishable by death. It's not something that makes you a patriot unless you're Jeffrey Goldberg, and that's how you see that.

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No, but what would it be like, Walter? If only... The Democrats have to look at Trump and think, gee, what would life be like if we had outlets that just said what we want them to? That were just like... reliably in our corner and doing our bidding.

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The New York Times, Walter, is asking this question as though they haven't been doing this for the Democrats since, well, at least the past 50, 40 years.

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That's so true. Think about what happened just the other week. We showed the clip where it was like Black History Day and Trump had the CEO of Pfizer, among others, at the White House. And Trump was like, hey, the CEO of Pfizer. And, you know, this is the ardent Trump faithful at the White House. They were like, boo, boo, boo. Trump, it is bottom up. They love Trump, but he doesn't control them.

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They have their own strong feelings on the right about him, his policies, who they're going to applaud, who they're going to boo. But before I get you to weigh in, Matt, I got to get in some of this other sound because it's also delicious. There's more of the same point being made in a discussion about X. Listen here.

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Okay. Okay. Matt, that X was completely controlled by leftists since its iteration, since it was first born till two years ago, right? Facebook, same. Zuckerberg's had a new sort of revelation that he's, I guess, more right-leaning than we knew. But Facebook has been completely left-leaning, at least in its core politics, right? Go down the list, all the social media, right?

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Like where's the discussion on how threads and blue sky are just democratic echo chambers now, you know, like not to mention outside of social media, actual media, which other than this one digital lane is entirely controlled by leftists.

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And that's how you see all stories involving Trump or any Republican. So the fact that he got added is a nightmare. There are some people saying Mike Walls is a neocon. That's why he had Jeffrey Goldberg. Can I tell you, if you saw the people in my contacts, you wouldn't know what to think. You'd be so confused.

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Hashtag part of the problem. I'll give you one more. Stop 14. Again, back to Nixon.

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Walter, that's called the Internet. That's called the Internet. OK, but do you tell me, has there been a modern president who's made himself more accessible to the mainstream media than this one? He has them in every day and lets them do a gaggle or holds a presser. He takes questions from all of them. He gets annoyed at one or the other, like the AP and says, all right, you no longer be in pool.

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because in Mike Walz's position as a guy who's been in politics forever, or in Jeffrey Goldberg's, frankly, you have a lot of contacts. You meet people, they give you their contact, you put it in there, you never know when you might need them or you might need to yell at them in Mike Walz's case with Goldberg.

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He takes questions from all of them. When he ran, he went on Theo Vaughn. He did Joe Rogan. He did Sean Ryan. He's not talking to those guys now. They're not breaking news on Trump. He's talking only right now to these mainstream. And they're still mad that the others exist.

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It's crazy because they talk about like, they're so obsessed, of course, with Watergate. And, you know, I grew up, I watched all the president's men. It was one of the reasons I wanted to become a journalist, not because they took down a Republican, but because that was spoon fed to all of us for decades as like the ultimate example of, of journalism at its core, like risk it all.

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You're in danger. You're onto a great story. Everything around you is being threatened, but you stay on it like a dog with a bone. And then ultimately you take down a president. It was a crazy story. Only in retrospect, you look back and you're like, Oh, that was the media doing what it does, like trying to take down a Republican. Only this one they can't get to, Matt.

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But the same thing that makes them like, he texted war plans to Jeffrey Goldberg. And Trump is the devil who won't speak to any mainstream media sources, even though he does it literally every day. His oxygen is speaking to any and all reporters, but they won't see it. No, he's Nixon. He's got to control them all or he won't give us access.

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It's so funny to see their own bias just completely blind them to what's actually happening in front of them.

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I don't think you can draw any conclusions from the fact that he had him in the contacts and we don't know who he was trying to add. but clearly he made a mistake. And now the left is treating this like we had a nuclear meltdown as a result of inappropriate group messaging on Signal. And I'll just start by saying this. If it were me and I were the administration, I think I would have just said,

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I got another one. Follow up with you on that, Matt. Another piece of the broadcast today, their show was about how. He's doing this, right, going around, around the mainstream to these alternate sources. But secondly, he's cracking down on the mainstream.

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And they cite the ABC News settlement for $15 million with him, which was required because their lead political anchor repeatedly said Donald Trump had been found liable for rape. which is defamatory and false by any measure. As a lawyer and a journalist, I can tell you, we'd all be in deep shit if we said that, and it's not true about somebody. Then they cite

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CBS, because Trump filed this lawsuit against them for their editing of the Kamala Harris thing, which I already said in the show I thought was bullshit, a bullshit case. But he's trying to rattle their cage a bit. And he filed it in Texas where they have more favorable laws on consumer fraud, etc., whatever. He wound up getting that transcript produced. And 60 Minutes was somewhat embarrassed.

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It wasn't like the worst switcheroo of answering I've ever seen in my life, but they were somewhat embarrassed by, it was clear they did run cover for Kamala, tried to make her look a little better than she did. But the way they talked about it, Matt, it was like, Rutenberg was like, And this is 60 minutes. So he sued them and they're caving. CBS is caving.

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And you're talking about like one of the most respected broadcasts in America. And they're still, they're still so hard charging and tough at 60. In no way was he recognizing what the rest of us see. It was just 60 is a shadow of its former self. It's a joke. today versus when it had murderer's row with Wallace and Bradley and the restaurant, they just, they don't, they genuinely don't see it.

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We made a mistake. We'll look into how it happened and we'll let you know. Thank God nothing bad came out of it. And it was, you know, on an encrypted channel. Thank goodness. But sure, we can shore up our communications and will. And that's it. This is not Watergate. This is not the Pentagon Papers. People need to calm the F down. The mission they were discussing was

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And they're trying to merge. They're trying to have a merger and they need government approval.

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Yeah, literally for an insult. Not to mention the old, the laptop can't be verified. It can't be verified, Leslie Stahl. Not to mention what Scott Pelley did with Moms for Liberty when they came on. There is no pornography being put in K-12 education library books. There is, Scott. There is. There's so many examples.

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60 is a joke to most of the country now, except these far lefties who still see it as the god of TV news. It's just kind of fun, frankly, to see how out of touch some on the left are, Walter, because it's like the whole

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The whole world has moved past them and they're still, I said this once before, it was like, we are all enjoying the fruits of our light bulb while they are trying to figure out what oil to put in the lantern.

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Mm hmm. By the way, I too am obsessed with the music that was on the radio during my high school and college years. We recently went to a basketball game and I came out singing one of the songs. I love this song. And I admit to you, I never paused to ask myself, what does this actually mean? Until my kids were like, mom, do you know what that means? And that song was OPP. Yeah.

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Abigail Finan doesn't know either. You down with OPP? Yeah, you know me. And let's just say in the second verse, he says something like the lady, the ladies OPP means something different. The first letter is the same, but the last is something different. Then he says something like, um, I can't, he won't say it, but he says something like it's other people's.

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He says, uh, I won't say it, but it rhymes with the leanest, the meanest that I got it.

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when we fought back against the Houthis in Yemen, that was a huge success. We took out a bunch of Houthi leadership. We threatened Iran. It went off without a hitch. It's true, it could have gone poorly if Mike Walz had CC'd Iran. I'm guessing that's probably not a contact he just would have abbreviated on there. But in any event, It didn't go badly.

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It didn't get leaked to anybody other than, yes, a guy who hates Republicans, but doesn't necessarily hate America because he did nothing to undermine the mission. So that's where it is. It's really not that big a deal. It's not great. Don't get me wrong. It's not great. We don't have to treat this like everything about the report is wrong. Whatever. He clearly got added erroneously.

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And it's about a 15, 16 minute morning news update. So you can kick off your day with what we think are the most important stories. And today we are announcing the launch of MK Media, a podcast network of video and audio shows, which we are going to produce and help promote. And we are starting with three out of the gate, which will launch in April and May.

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Can we move on? Like, it's bad. You should fix it. Tell us how you're going to fix the communications. Off we go. All right. Joining me now to discuss that and all the stories in the news, the hosts of the America This Week podcast, author and novelist Walter Kern and Racket News editor Matt Taibbi. One in two adults have high blood pressure. Many don't even know it. That's a ticking time bomb.

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She's another AOC who was Sandy Cortez for her entire upbringing in Yorktown Heights, which is part of Westchester, Matt. Not Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, woman with a Puerto Rican history. She does have a Puerto Rican parent, and the other's a white person from Westchester, I think.

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In any event, now she's AOC, and she wants us to lean into the person of color she is and the rough upbringing she had in the Bronx, which is not Yorktown Heights, trust me. lifelong resident of New York State and dated a guy for five years from Yorktown Heights to stop. In any event, now Jasmine Crockett's out there. She wants to be the lead attacker of Elon Musk, of Governor Abbott, of Ted Cruz.

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Here's her latest on Elon, I guess, as she celebrates her birthday, which was March 19th.

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She sounded normal there a little bit, Matt. I guess the accent comes and goes.

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You know, while Trey used to have a best friend who she'd have a few drinks back in the college days, and she would start speaking with a Southern accent, it was organic. It wasn't an affectation. It just kind of started coming out. It was her drunk personality. I don't think Jasmine Crockett has such an excuse. She's trying to send some sort of a message.

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She thinks being street is going to make her seem tough or get her some sort of cred with some sort of a group, but really just makes her look dumb, especially when you have the old tape of her.

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Mm hmm. Yeah, that's right. That's the worst. The worst. And you guys, it's been a fruitful and enjoyable two hours. And I thank you both profusely for coming on. Great to see you both.

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Went too fast. And we are back tomorrow with Jordan Peterson. He's only been on one other time. Looking forward to that. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda and no fear.

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So what do you make of my take on Signalgate? Signal being the encrypted messaging app where they were having this conversation and clearly had the eventually, oh, shit moment of realizing somebody had added Jeffrey Goldberg to the message chain. Matt, I'll start with you.

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That's interesting. There is some speculation online just on X, you know, random folks posting. Is there any chance he was intentionally added here? as a means of getting a discussion, which didn't make anybody look bad. I think to the contrary, it made them all look very thoughtful and they're debating the pros and cons. And, you know, is this something that we really want to take on?

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That's what JD was saying. Like Europe has 40% of its commerce going through these channels. We have three, you know, should it really be our problem? And then some exchange about, well, yeah, but we're the only ones who can do it. So if we're going to push back at all, it should be us. whatever did the actual chatter did not make them look bad.

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It was simply the fact that it was happening on telegram and they added Jeffrey Goldberg. So Walter, that some of the speculation online was, did they intentionally add him so that they could make possibly telegraph to the Europeans, you know, where we actually stand on this and that they may need to pick up any slack that happens from this point forward.

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There's zero evidence to support any of that. That's just, I'm just picking up on what Matt suggested there.

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So you're not going to have to wait very long to consume them. The first three are Next Up with Mark Halperin from the independent journalist and best-selling author Mark Halperin, The Nerve with Maureen Callahan from our pal Maureen, who is also a Daily Mail cultural columnist and a best-selling author, and Spot On with Link Lauren from the great political commentator and influencer Link Lauren.

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Also, I have never somebody somebody online said, you know, it should be a criminal act not to share the group text chains that Jeffrey Goldberg had internally when realizing that this was a real crime.

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text chain he was on with the national security team like holy shit and then of course even better would have been to see the reaction of the people I mean who among us hasn't like cc'd somebody where you're like oh god I didn't mean to do that but This is next level. This one's not your average. Oh, shit. Moment, Matt.

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And of course, the Democrats who have completely fallen apart, who have zero support amongst their own party. We talked about yesterday some of the numbers on Team Blue. They're just they're in worse shape now than they've been in 50 years. sense an opportunity to have a good news cycle. And they're right to capitalize.

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I mean, if I were a Democrat looking to change the narrative about what a mess my party is, sure, this will do for a couple of days. I'll ride this one. And so what we saw this morning in front of Senate Intel was they called in the national security apparatus. This is a pre-scheduled thing on global threats. And they decided to make the most of this, including

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Senator Mark Warner of Virginia, who's a Dem, versus Tulsi Gabbard and John Ratcliffe, head of the CIA. Watch.

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Democrat Governor Kathy Hochul telling The David Pakman Show New York State Police will not cooperate with mass deportations.

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Tom Homan warning the governor in recent weeks, if state officials do not cooperate with federal officials, he will take aggressive action.

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Since the spring of 2022, more than 200,000 illegal aliens shipped to New York from the Texas border. Many of the new arrivals making headlines for crimes like vandalism and public drunkenness to far more horrific acts. Jose Ibera was arrested and released in New York just months before he was put on a taxpayer-funded flight to Georgia, where he savagely killed 22-year-old Laken Riley.

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President Trump calling on Democrat governor from Colorado, Jared Polis, to remove his presidential portrait hanging in the state capitol building. In a Sunday Night Truth social post, President Trump writing, quote,

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But the one in Colorado in the state capitol put up by the governor, along with all other presidents, was purposefully distorted to a level that even I, perhaps, have never seen before. A spokesperson for Governor Polis saying the governor was, quote, surprised to learn the president of the United States is an aficionado of our Colorado state capitol and its artwork.

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President Trump also calling out the governor as, quote, extremely weak on crime, in particular, with respect to Tren de Aragua, a U.S.-designated foreign terrorist organization. President Trump saying the artist, Sarah Boardman, painted a much more flattering portrait of President Obama. It's almost an exact likeness, truth be told.

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President Trump writing that the White House received many calls and complaints from the people of Colorado regarding the portrait of Mr. Trump, which was unveiled in 2019. Ms. Boardman telling the Denver Post at the time of the unveiling, her aim was to craft a neutral portrait.

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President Trump securing a recent slate of victories against Columbia University, the state of Maine, and the law firm Paul Weiss. Columbia University facing the loss of $400 million in federal funding, giving in to the Trump administration's demands aimed at curbing on-campus anti-Semitism.

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Quote, in today's environment, it's all very upfront, but in another 5, 10, 15 years, he will be another president on the wall. The portrait commissioned for $11,000, donations raised by a state Republican lawmaker in 2018. New York Magazine describes the work as jowly. That's putting it nicely. He looks 50 pounds heavier than he actually is.

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A picture of the portrait is posted on megankelly.com where you can judge for yourself. And that'll do it for your AM update. I'm Megyn Kelly. Join me back here for The Megyn Kelly Show, live on SiriusXM Triumph Channel, 111 at New East, on YouTube.com slash Megyn Kelly, and on all podcast platforms.

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The university rocked by violent anti-Israel protests since the start of Israel's war against the Hamas terrorist organization that killed 1,200 Israelis on 10-7-23. The university agreeing to implement a mask ban on campus Protesters had used masks to shield their identities and to require that protesters identify themselves when asked or face disciplinary action.

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The Trump administration securing a slate of wins against Columbia University, the main university system, and Democrat-linked law firm Paul Weiss.

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The New York Post reporting 36 campus cops also now empowered to arrest students or remove them from the campus when necessary. Previously, these actions required direct authorization from the university president. The school says it will also appoint a senior vice provost to review the Middle Eastern, South Asian and African Studies Department.

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The provost will be responsible for reviewing curriculum, ensuring program offerings are comprehensive and balanced. Columbia officials not fully complying with all Trump administration demands. The university is restructuring the university judicial board rather than fully abolishing it.

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Critics of the judicial board accuse it of taking insufficient disciplinary action against students accused of anti-Semitic behavior. The New York Times' The Daily podcast explaining, even with the concessions, Columbia University is not totally in the clear.

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The Department of Education reporting Columbia holds roughly $5 billion in federal grant commitments. The original $400 million cut just an initial warning to the university. The Trump administration is serious about ending on-campus displays of anti-Semitism as the law requires.

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The University of Maine system agreeing to comply with President Trump's executive order banning men from women's sports. Earlier this month, the Department of Agriculture freezing nearly $30 million in research contracts across the system's eight campuses, part of a broader standoff between the Trump administration and tough-talking Governor Janet Mills.

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On Wednesday, the USDA reinstating the funding, saying the university system is now in full compliance with the executive order. But the issue is not yet fully resolved statewide. The Maine Principals Association, which oversees public school sports, is under federal investigation for allowing a male athlete to compete in the high school girls' pole vault championship.

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The MPA has not yet agreed to federal demands. The HHS Office of Civil Rights setting a Thursday deadline for the MPA, the Maine Department of Education and Greeley High School to come into compliance with Title IX.

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President Trump this weekend posting to Truth Social, writing, quote, We need a full-throated apology from the governor herself and a statement that she will never make such an unlawful challenge to the federal government again. before this case can be settled. I'm sure she will be able to do that quite easily.

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Editor-in-chief of The Atlantic, Jeffrey Goldberg, says he was accidentally added to a group chat discussing high-level war plans among Trump administration top security officials. Border Czar Tom Homan rounds up hundreds of criminal illegal aliens in Boston. And President Trump has a bone to pick with Colorado's governor over something you probably didn't see coming.

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Governor Mills previously threatened to take the Trump administration to court in order to protect the rights of boys in her state to compete in girls' leagues. Instead, she already surrendered at the university level, so we'll see. Paul Weiss, a powerful law firm with deep ties to Democrat politics, caving to the demands of the Trump administration, and then some.

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On March 14th, President Trump signing an executive order reading in part, quote, global law firms have for years played an outsized role in undermining the judicial process and in the destruction of bedrock American principles. The president identifying Paul Weiss as one such firm with specific examples.

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The order suspended security clearances for Paul Weiss employees, restricted their access to federal buildings, and directed federal agencies to cancel contracts with the firm. On Friday, following a negotiated agreement, President Trump revoking the executive order and laying out a number of concessions.

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The law firm will dedicate $40 million in pro bono legal services throughout the remainder of President Trump's term to support mutually agreed upon causes, such as supporting veterans. Paul Weiss committing to adopting a policy of political neutrality and abandoning any diversity, equity, and inclusion practices. The firm also acknowledging the wrongdoing of former partner Mark Pomerantz.

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In 2021, Mr. Pomerantz took a leave of absence from Paul Weiss to join the Manhattan DA's office, where he helped lead the criminal investigation into the Trump Organization's alleged inflation of asset values. Upon taking office in 2022, DA Alvin Bragg paused the case, saying he was not prepared to move forward with that one.

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Mr. Pomerantz, in turn, very publicly resigning from the DA's office, publishing a scathing resignation letter in March 2022 and a book titled The People vs. Donald Trump, using his platform to pressure Bragg and or others into resurrecting the probe. In April 2022, Mr. Pomerantz then returning to his position as of counsel at Paul Weiss.

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It's unclear when Mr. Pomerantz's association with Paul Weiss officially ended, but it apparently has. Ultimately, New York Attorney General Letitia James, a fellow elected Democrat, filed civil charges in a case accusing Trump of inflating asset values to secure favorable loans.

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In 2024, she secured a civil judgment imposing over $450 million in penalties against Trump, the Trump Organization, and its top executives. Trump allies and legal experts blasted that case as politically driven, as a witch hunt, with no clear victim. None of the banks who had allegedly been defrauded complained at all. Despite Mr. Trump's 2024 election victory, A.G.

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James has refused to drop the case, which is now under appeal. Editor-in-chief of The Atlantic magazine Jeffrey Goldberg shocking Washington Monday with a piece headlined, The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Me Its War Plans. Mr. Goldberg claiming he was added by National Security Advisor Mike Walz to a signal group chat with what appeared to be senior Trump administration officials.

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National Security Council spokesman Brian Hughes later confirming to Mr. Goldberg and to ABC News the authenticity of the group message chain. On March 15th, the Trump administration began bombing the Houthi rebel group in Yemen. Mr. Goldberg writing, quote, I, however, knew two hours before the first bombs exploded that the attack might be coming.

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All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update. There's a lot of talk about government debt, but after four years of inflation, another real crisis is personal debt. Some people are working harder than ever and still drowning in credit card debt and overdue bills. But there's done with debt.

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The reason I knew this is that Pete Hegseth, the Secretary of Defense, had texted me the war plan at 1144 a.m. Mr. Goldberg outlining days of communications on the encrypted messaging app Message Chain, which also included Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Vice President J.D. Vance, and other high-ranking officials.

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the officials engaging in a nuanced policy discussion weighing the pros and cons of launching the attack on the Houthis. The user identified as J.D.

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Vance, pointing out the Europeans had the most to lose with the shipping disruptions being caused by the Houthis, questioning why America should take on this risk, writing, quote, I am not sure the president is aware how inconsistent this is with his message on Europe right now. There's a further risk that we see a moderate to severe spike in oil prices.

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Mr. Goldberg then claiming days later the group chat receiving a follow-up message from Defense Secretary Hegseth. Mr. Goldberg writing, quote, I will not quote from this update or from certain other subsequent texts. The information contained in them, if they had been read by an adversary of the United States, could conceivably have been used to harm American military and intelligence personnel.

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This report quickly picked up and circulated by the media, including MSNBC and CNN.

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Democrats quickly leaping to comment. Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer struggling to shore up his own support with progressives, slamming the administration from the Senate floor.

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Secretary Hegseth denying Mr. Goldberg's description of his communications. You're talking about a

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Thank you. President Trump learning about the story in a press conference with the governor of Louisiana from a reporter who brought it up.

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The breach raising questions about the handling of sensitive information. The AP reporting under the Biden administration, some officials were authorized to download Signal on their White House phones, but were directed to use it sparingly. The National Security Council is investigating how a journalist was added to the group message, and no one seemed to notice.

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Coming up, Porter Czar Tom Homan announcing hundreds of arrests of criminal illegal aliens in Boston as sanctuary cities fight against ICE officials. And President Trump has a bone to pick with Colorado's governor over something you probably did not see coming. All that and more in just a moment. One in two adults have high blood pressure. Many don't even know it. That's a ticking time bomb.

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120 Life can help take control of your life and your health today. Border Czar Tom Homan announcing the arrests of 370 illegal aliens in and around the Boston area. Boston, a sanctuary city, a prime target of Mr. Homan from the start of the second Trump administration.

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In February, Mr. Homan calling out Boston officials for their refusal to cooperate with federal officials tasked with rounding up the worst of the worst illegal alien offenders.

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The Trump administration and Republicans in Congress battling sanctuary cities, they say, violate the law by not coordinating with ICE officials to remove illegal aliens. Boston Mayor Michelle Wu, along with several other sanctuary city mayors, called in March to testify in front of the Oversight Committee.

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Mayor Wu clearly intentionally using very precise language there to describe her city's legal process for releasing illegal immigrants from city custody back onto the streets. In Boston, when local police arrest someone they know is a criminal illegal alien, that person is typically processed and released from custody without notifying ICE.

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In non-sanctuary jurisdictions, local law enforcement works with ICE by notifying them of the arrest and handing over the individual from within the jail, a process ICE says is safer for both officers and the detainee.

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In Boston, ICE is often notified only at the last minute, if at all, of the release, forcing federal agents to locate and arrest individuals in public places like parking lots where safety risks are higher. ICE officials argue this approach makes communities less safe and undermines immigration enforcement efforts.

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Mr. Homan describing the recent effort in Boston on X as a multi-agency, five-day operation resulting in arrests of six foreign fugitives, including four who were wanted for murder or to serve a criminal sentence for murder, along with drug traffickers, child sexual predators, and numerous other violent public safety threats. The immigration situation not much better in neighboring New York.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. I'm Megan Kelly. Welcome to The Megan Kelly Show. Oh, we have a lot to talk about. The fallout from Joy Reid's firing at MSNBC continues. She signed off from the show for the last time last night. I mean, you know, we are going to miss her in our own special way. And her now former colleague, Rachel Maddow.

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But one thing you cannot necessarily see, you people at home, is that the people who get our show on the air, they're really, they're being put through the ringer. Dozens, dozens of producers and staffers, including some who are among the most experienced and most talented and most specialist producers in the building. It doesn't really sound like a Rhodes Scholar. are facing being laid off.

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Laid off, I say. There could be actual job losses here. She's absolutely disgusted that now they are, quote, being invited to reapply for new jobs, but that this has never happened at this scale in this way before when it comes to programming changes, presumably because... It's not the right way to treat people. And it's inefficient and it's unnecessary.

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And it kind of drops the bottom out of whether or not people feel like this is a good place to work. And so we don't generally do things that way. All right. And she goes on. But in the meantime, being put in this kind of limbo, the anxiety and the discombobulation is off the charts. It's off the charts. And I'll get to that in one second. So here she is trying to be like the person I...

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I feel for the little guy. I'm the one who's not, I don't really care mostly about Joy. I care about Joy's staff because they're the good people who are now wondering what's going to happen to them. And indeed, they were told that they're laid off reportedly, that they could reapply for a new position on a different show.

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But obviously, NBC News had had it with the messaging coming off of that show at seven. And they're 100% right that not only did Joy Reid need to go, but the whole staff needed to go. Obviously, what kind of a lunatic would stay working for Joy Reid if they did not believe what she's saying?

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I mean, as I said not long ago, the woman tried to start a race war multiple times, including right after Trump won. There's just, yes, I'm sorry, but you all have to go. You all have the stank of her racist viewpoints and hatred of America all over you. Good luck getting any other job. Maybe you'll find one at MSNBC, but Maddow's not wrong. You probably won't find one if not there.

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So yeah, but here's Rachel. She's so upset. She's so upset about the fact that there are layoffs. Meanwhile, you know why there are layoffs? You know why Joy Reid finally lost her job? You know why Alex Wagner lost hers? Because of you, Rachel Maddow. Because of you and your colleagues who completely destroyed the credibility of your entire network. You, more than anyone, did that.

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Yes, Joy Reid is a racist race baiter who hates the country. But you are the biggest conspiracy theorist on television. You're the one who pushed Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia. for years trying to make it sound like you had special insights you could let us in on that only the great Rachel Maddow could see through to.

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And night after night trying to drive up your numbers with a bunch of made up bullshit. And the reason we know it was made up and it wasn't a good faith error, which can happen but didn't here, is because you never owned it and you never apologized and you never corrected the record. Your network is imploding because you have lost the credibility of even your far left viewers.

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They know you're bullshit. They know your colleagues are bullshit. They know you hate the United States, that you've been misleading them serially for years now. So I'm glad you feel sad that some staffers are getting laid off. But if you're looking for someone to blame, look in the mirror, sister. It's actually not the fault of the new woman, Rebecca, who took over two minutes ago.

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It's your fault. And it's absolutely Joy Reid's fault and Lawrence O'Donnell and Chris Hayes. And you know what? If we're gonna play by your rules, why isn't somebody answering at MSNBC over the fact that the two white guys and the white woman, Joy Reid, got to keep, Rachel Maddow got to keep their jobs, and Jen Psaki, another white woman, got elevated into the primetime?

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Why don't they have to answer for that? Those are their rules, pure numbers. DNC, they've gotta count how many non-binaries are running for the top position. MSNBC, you gotta account for every white man you leave in his role. And if Rachel Maddow feel so bad about the numbers of whites in their primetime lineup, you know what she can do, don't you? You know what she can do.

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She can ride her whatever bike she rides right off set and go home to one of her mansions. She can leave. She can quit. Make room for a white person to leave the stage and open it up for a black anchor or Southeast Asian anchor to come in. Someone, someone, dare I say, Rachel, maybe as good as you, maybe even better than you. maybe somebody you could respect even more than a joy reach.

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She'll never do it. She needs her power. She needs to feel important. She needs her $25 million a year. She needs it, but she's still a good person. She's not an elitist snob because she's mentioning the little people who are being laid off as she cashes her own check. Let me tell you something. I am was across from Rachel Maddow for years in the prime time of cable news at 9 p.m.

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And I fucking crushed her. She never came close to me. But I know what it takes to put one of those shows on the air. And you can do it with 11 or 12 people, 11 or 12 producers. And that would cost Rachel Maddow or MSNBC maybe $4 million, maybe $4 million if you're going by generous cable news salaries. And she can afford that in about two weeks.

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She's been making that 30, 25, you know, just took the pay cut, but $25 million a year. She'd been making that for at least eight years, I think, by my back of the envelope calculation. She's got plenty of money. After taxes, if you, you know, New York city, you cut it in half. So it's what, 12 and a half for rounded up to 10 years on this 120, over $120 million in the bank. That's not earned.

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That's net. Why don't you want to save half of them? You don't have to save, save half, do 2 million. If you care so much, leave your post, open it up for a person of color. And why don't you pay some of those salaries who cannot MSNBC can no longer afford because of you. because of your enormous salary, which is totally outsized to the numbers and results you produce.

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Spare me your sanctimony and self-righteousness when you're not willing to actually do anything about it other than go out there and virtue signal and try to act like a better person than the lowly Rebecca and Mark Lazarus and Brian Roberts of Comcast, all the racists who surround you. It's a joke. It's offensive. She won't do it. And she goes on.

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This is about how hard it is to be a member of the press right now. They don't need this added stress, Comcast. They're already having a difficult time enough in the wake of the Trump presidency. Here's a bit of that.

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Okay. She really is one of the most annoying people on television. She oozes sanctimony and self-righteousness. And here's the real capper. She took her boss's faces and rubbed them in shit last night. That's what she did. I, you, the guy who oversees, she's got two bosses now, right? All right. She's got the first boss who's new. I've got to look up her name because I don't remember her name.

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Okay. So it's a very difficult time, very difficult time. And the job is already stressful and difficult. We're at Normandy. That's, she's, they're storming the beaches right now. The Germans are up there. They're firing from the cliff above and she's there. in the boats coming up to the shores to save the world. That's how she sees herself.

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That's how these other leftist so-called journalists see themselves. And that's what she's talking about. It's very hard to save democracy. We've got a tyrant dictator autocrat in the white house and press freedoms are being eroded censorship around every turn. Oh wait, no, that was Joe Biden. Where were you then again? What did, I don't, did you, oh, that wasn't, that wasn't stressful.

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That was not difficult, right? Because you were asleep at the switch. So we had four years of fake Russiagate claims. Then we had a sleep at the switch and people at your network telling us that it was the best Joe Biden ever, ever in March of 2024 saying that. Then Trump won and it's Normandy. You're back at it. It's very stressful.

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I'm sure it's very difficult for you, Rachel, with your ability to have a masseuse waiting for you at home every night before you go to bed, to have a bed full of gold bars awaiting you. I'm sure it's really stressful. for you journalists over at MSNBC. And then she says, okay, what pains me, what pains us here the most is not what happens to us. That's 100% false.

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That's exactly what pains her the most. She cares mostly 100% what happens to her. It's what happens to our coworkers on whom we depend and who you don't necessarily know, but we respect and love them and depend on them. See, I love you. I love you. Don't go to page six with nasty stories about me. I love you, even though I can buy and sell you. And did I mention we respect them again?

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She throws him. This is difficult time in the news business, but it does not need to be this difficult. We welcome new voices to this place and some familiar voices to new hours. Okay. And then she finishes up with, look,

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I believe, and I bet you believe, that the way to get there, to get to growing the audience and to staying here forever on MSNBC, is by treating people well, finding good people, good colleagues, doing good work with them, and having their back. Should we have the back of racists on television? Rachel, is that a good policy? Should we have the back of the Joy Reads, of the Tiffany Crosses?

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Or are we allowed to say they've gone too far? They've offended more than half the country. They've offended large swaths of the black community, nevermind the white community. Are we allowed to ever say that? Or they're black and they're fired and that's a problem for you. Then we didn't have their back. We betrayed them. There was a disloyalty problem by the bosses.

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And she says here, so I believe we could find these good people, good colleagues and do good work with them and have their back and that we could do a lot better, a lot better. I wonder how Ronna McDaniel feels about Rachel Maddow having her back. Did she have the back of that good colleague?

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Did she stand up for a Republican who, in the most mild and milquetoast ways, got behind some of Trump's election questions? But it was a bridge too far to where the vaunted NBC News badge. I don't remember her having having her back. And Rachel Maddow trying to say what pains us the most is not what happens to us is a lie too.

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The reason she won't give the $4 million or the $2 million to save any of those jobs, and she doesn't have to cut them a check, she could actually just take it out of her current salary. She could just reduce her salary from $25 to $23. Could you make due on $23 million, Rachel? Could you do it? Like, seriously, if you went in there... Why don't you do the Tom Brady, right?

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Didn't Tom Brady go in there? I don't know anything about sports, as you know, but I believe he went in there at one point and said, I'll take a cut so that I can save my offensive line. That's what you actually do if you care about your supporting teammates, as she claims she does. You know why she won't? Because she's got bills to pay and her lifestyle is too important to her. Rachel Maddow,

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currently, according to my calculation, and I'm sure it's much more, has a $10 million penthouse, penthouse, I say, on the Upper East Side, where her neighbors are Jodie Foster and Barry Manilow at some point. It's got, according to its listing that she owns, breathtaking views of Central Park and the city sideline.

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What's her name, Steve? Rebecca Cutler, okay, who answers to a different boss who's above Rebecca Cutler. His name is Mark Lazarus. His current title is prospective chief executive officer of SpinCo. That's Comcast plan spinoff of MSNBC, basically. He's responsible for the company's networks. Well, Rebecca and Mark, do you have any spines whatsoever?

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It's got not one, but two private terraces, including one right off of her master bedroom where she can go. And that's the right term because she can go out there as master and say, oh, let them eat cake. I expressed how badly I feel for them. I said I respected them. I, oh, Bitterman, bring the car around, please. That's her life.

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Then on the weekends, she jets off to Western Massachusetts to what is described as a pre-Civil War farmhouse, which has both a main house and a decked out bathhouse complete with spa. This is the bathhouse.

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spa and other and beds and other accoutrements it's so special it got its own spread in new york magazine built in 1869 and her small this is just the again the bath house this is not the main house you're looking at which she didn't put on camera um so this house that she owns in western math mass is built in 1869 and in one of the most expensive states in the union sits on 12 acres

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Maybe you could have one of the staff go stay in the bathhouse. Maybe you could have a little retreat where they get to ride their bicycles around your 12-acre estate. Maybe you could let them come and enjoy some cocktails, some farewell cocktails on your double terraces, and then look at them and say, but at least I feel bad about it.

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I feel really sad about what's happening to you and how hard it is to be me, meaning a journalist in 2025 under Trump, Normandy. She is full of shit. She's self-righteous and sanctimonious, and everyone knows it. There is a real and growing threat to your home and your equity, and it's called title fraud. Here's how it works.

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Criminals can forge a single document, file it with the recorder, and just like that, your home's title is stolen. They take out loans against your property, draining your equity, and you would not even know it had happened until it was too late. Here's the really scary part. Credit monitoring will not protect you from any of this.

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She's a columnist now for the Free Press, which is a great move out of the disgusting Newsweek, which did the most vile piece I've seen in recent history on this mass murder of a family in Connecticut. It happened about a month ago. Before I bring Batya on, I just want to tell you this.

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It was the Pettit family, and this father and mother and their two daughters were attacked by these two monsters. These two guys laid in wait. They followed the mother and the daughter, saw them grocery shopping, then laid in wait, went into the house and tied them up, got the mother in the morning to go to a bank. got the mother to make a withdrawal.

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The mother said while in the bank, I'm being kidnapped. The bank teller did wind up calling the police. But by the time the cops got there, within 38 minutes, I think it was, the mother had been killed. The father managed to escape last minute. And both daughters, 17 and 11, had been killed. One burned. They were burned alive after they raped the 11-year-old.

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And Newsweek took the opportunity within the last 30 days to to do a sympathetic piece on one of the two killers facing, he's in jail for the rest of his life and how he is now a she and how he is going to be suing for his gender affirming care to be paid for. And I just want to tell you something. We taped an hour on this. It was an extra that we released sometimes on the show.

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We did a whole hour on this. And I said to the team when it was over, we can't release it. And they said, why? And I said, because I was too angry and it was too dark. It was so dark going through the details of that horrific crime. And I call out the writer by name and I call out Newsweek by name.

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Are you actually going to let an employee, that's what she is, Rachel Maddow, Talk about you, your company, and your decision-making this way. Mr. Lazarus, do you have any testosterone? Do you have any testicular fortitude to stand up for yourself as a professional and executive, never mind a man, and tell this woman, you're fired too.

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And I didn't, it's not Batya's fault, but I said, I can't believe they have somebody as good as Batya working at this disgusting publication that did this. And I, we, I didn't, I just never released it because it was so dark. I actually would love to get your thoughts on whether that's something you would even want to hear. You can email me, megan at megankelly.com.

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But in any event, I'm thrilled that Batya has gone over to the free press, which has absolutely nothing in common with a vile newsweek. Batya is the author of the book, Second Class, and she's back with me today. Batya, great to see you.

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Oh, thank you. And honestly, I know you had some good times at Newsweek, and not everything they do is bad, but what they did was such an egregious sin. I find it unforgivable, and I'm thrilled you're no longer there. They don't deserve you. OK, so your thoughts on Rachel Maddow, the on the beaches of Normandy, also on her two terraces on Central Park, looking out at her city and her park views.

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But it's a very difficult time to be a journalist. And everyone at MSNBC other than Rachel is is a racist.

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You're fired for insubordination and for disparaging the network publicly. in front of our four viewers. We're very upset about what they must now think. Why don't you? If one of my employees ever did this to me, let's say, you know, we started an MK network and we have MK employees who go from being my producers to going out there and offering commentary. It's happened in many places.

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Yes. That's so true. I want to play the Jane Fonda soundbite from the SAG Awards the other night, which encapsulates a lot of this, too. But I've got to spend a minute on that New York Times article. We read this as a team over the weekend, and we were all like, thank God Batya's here on Tuesday. I cannot wait to talk about this with Batya. It's worth quoting from.

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Okay, so the headline is in the New York Times. They helped make the Hamptons the Hamptons, and now they're living in fear. Sub-headline, Latino immigrants care for some of America's most lavish beachside mansions. Their disappearance would affect the wealthy, too. Ha! By Dion Searcy, reporter who writes about wealth and power. And Anna Lay, who covers mass transit in New York.

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Okay, some samples. Wealthy residents of the Hamptons demand perfection. Now, many of the people who make it so, Latino immigrants, some of them undocumented, are panicking about President Trump's deportation orders. The fear is on display outside a convenience store where day laborers sprint into a nearby field when a stranger approaches.

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It is present in the nervous apologizing of a longtime housekeeper when she interacts with police after a minor automobile scrape. And it courses through a small encampment in the woods where a landscaper is awaiting warmer weather so he can start cutting grass again to send money home to his family in Mexico. Obviously an illegal. Tom Holman, alert.

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In the Hamptons, with miles of private hedges and luxury homes, Latino immigrants make up the bulk of the workforce, logging 12-hour days, flipping mattresses, scrubbing toilets, and hanging drywall, and in the summer, tending vineyards and assembling patio furniture under the hot sun. Some arrived illegally, crossing the U.S. border after grueling desert or jungle treks.

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Some have legal working papers but are worried they could be swept up in raids or that their undocumented family members and friends could. Some believe Trump is going after criminals. Others aren't sure. In the town of East Hampton, which encompasses many of the villages at the east end, Latinos make up more than a quarter, blah, blah, blah. Okay, and then they go on. Okay.

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Some of the wealthy are quietly beginning to make calculations about what it would mean if their undocumented workers were deported. Who would mow the lawn? Everyone relies on housekeepers and carpenters and tree cutters and grass cutters, said Merritt Mullen, founder and executive director of Hamptons Community Outreach. People come to the Hamptons to enjoy their houses.

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And they did this. I would fire them so fast and I would not be... You couldn't get me to back down with claims of, oh, it's viewpoint discrimination. You're cracking down on free speech. No, you work for me. You work for me. I'm going to give you my airwaves so you can go out there and rip on me? No, that's not going to happen.

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The people who live in the woods, who mow their lawns and scrub their toilets, they don't get paid a real salary. They don't have a paycheck. They're all paid cash under the table so that these people don't have to pay any sort of employer worker insurance. And so that they can pay them this lower wage that the immigrant takes the full balance of. That person doesn't have to pay taxes on it.

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So both parties understand they're gonna have to pay less. Believe me, I had lots of people who suggested to me when I was younger and needing nannies, you know, when my kids were little, oh, here's this woman, but she wants to get paid under the table. No, I said, no, no, no, no, we're not doing that. And I paid everybody.

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I mean, I'll never fail an audit because all of anybody who's ever helped me has gotten paid over the table. And yes, you then have to pay a little more because you want somebody who's great and you want their net salary to be competitive for them, to be a living wage that they can actually enjoy life with, or they will find somebody else to work for. And it does cost more.

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I could have gotten lots of folks who were undocumented to work for me for a cheaper wage, but I didn't do it. But these people in the Hamptons who have more money than I do, way more money than I do, there's a home out there worth $450 million. They don't, and I'm not talking about this particular owner, but I'm saying people like that who are in this article don't want to have to pay.

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They're, they're scrimping and saving every last dime and they don't want to pay it to an American who yes, might cost a little more than, especially because you'd have to pay him over the table.

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And look, it's one thing if you're in the middle of a whistleblower scandal, all right? I actually thought it was to her credit when she called them out at NBC when they were lying about not having the Harvey Weinstein story knocked down. That was one thing.

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I give you Jane Fonda the other night at the SAG Awards where she was given a Lifetime Achievement Award.

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But just getting on to randomly disagree with their decisions and accuse them of racism because you would have come to a different conclusion? No. she should be fired. They won't fire her because I don't say the P word, but they are a bunch of peas and they, she's the only one who comes close to putting numbers on the board.

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She says, woke, it just means being nice to people. That's what it means. You're virtuous. In other words, Batya. And this, we're basically in the middle of the civil rights movement again, thanks to Trump.

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And she's, I mean, not only is she rich in her own right as a Fonda and a successful actress, but she was married to Ted Turner, right? She was married to Ted Turner for many years, I think for a decade. She's got plenty of dough to throw around. More with Bhatia on the opposite side of this break. Don't go anywhere. So many people these days are super focused on their health, right?

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Joy Reid wants you to believe that she's Mother Teresa. She's Mother Teresa slash Rosa Parks, a combination of both. We are back now with Free Press columnist Batya Angar Sargan. There she was on Saturday having learned her show was about to be canceled with a group of online supporters talking about herself again like she was saintly.

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It's all relative, trust me, but you know, thinnest kid at fat camp and all. And, um, so they're not going to fire her, but what she got away with on the air last night was absolutely disrespectful and it was insubordinate and it is just evidence of how she is. affected. She is somebody who evinces an affected or hypocritical holiness, a feeling or display of moral superiority.

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Here's the reality and an actual taste of what Joy Reid's show looked and sounded like the following mashup put together by Tom Elliott of Grabian.

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never one to not be the center of attention if she can find a way of injecting herself into a story, decided to deliver a monologue aimed directly at her bosses. And this is the theme of what we saw. I looked it up today just so I would know the actual definition. Merriam-Webster, sanctimony, affected or hypocritical holiness.

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Okay. Just one other point here. You heard her mention tears, white tears, male tears. She's got a thing about it. Most normal people watching her cry at the beginning of that soundbite, you know, what we did matter, might feel a pang of sympathy for her, empathy. So they might. And then you remember who she actually was on the air.

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And clips like this one, which I mentioned yesterday, reacting to the Kyle Rittenhouse trial in 2021, SOT6.

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Yeah, right. White tears are fake. Kyle Rittenhouse, 18-year-old put on trial for murder, called a white supremacist unfoundedly by the running next president of the United States. He was faking it. His white male tears, they're racist too. And white female tears are racist. And to the point where she found them so fun, she would... she would mock them. So no, I have zero sympathy for her.

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None whatsoever. I revel in her termination. I will shoot those tears right into my veins. I'm going to put them on my nightside table in my glass and I will drink them. Gleefully cry, go, I'll watch.

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No, it's true. I saw in the news yesterday, Don Lemon was out there upset that I'm enjoying the Joy Reid termination. Once again, calling me nasty names. And really what's happening here is when one cannot generate light on one's self by oneself, they may find it fine just to bathe in the reflective light of someone else who actually is successful. That's what's really happening there.

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Don Lemon has no viewers. He has no listeners whatsoever. He has not been able to make it in the cable news world where he was repeatedly demoted and then fired. He was fired two minutes after getting hired by Elon, which should have been a lifeline to him, but he was too stupid to actually take advantage of it. And now he's too stupid to actually make it in the digital lane.

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You really have to watch the whole five-minute bit, but I'm going to take you through it, okay, before we have our guests come. Um, she starts off by saying, I'm going to take a little point of personal privilege here for just a moment. If it is okay with you, well, we're your prisoners, Rachel. So yeah, go ahead. You may have already heard about these changes announced at MSNBC.

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So he did the one thing that he could think of to do, which was get into the press by attacking me. And now he's gotten more ink than he's gotten in the past four years. But he's a sad, pathetic little man who actually cannot make it in business on his own. And really at this point, thoughts and prayers, Don, hang in there. But that's that's right.

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He, Joy Reid, all these race essentialists are failing because the jig is up. People see what they're doing. We're over it. The great awokening happened with Trump's reelection and the fever has broken. That's why, yes, Joy Reid got fired because I asked my team to go pull the numbers. OK, in January, MSNBC's demo was the lowest in primetime it has ever been. Ever. Worst January ever for MSNBC.

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In February, it was a 28% decline in the overall numbers. So they're down 30% in February versus 2024. So they are hemorrhaging viewers still. Joy Reid's show is bad. It's a little worse than her colleagues, but it's not that much worse. It's her messaging. I absolutely believe that Brian Roberts had enough because she is being replaced by two black people and a Hispanic.

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And I don't know Simone Sanders that well. She used to be more normal. I think she's gotten a little woker and more annoying over the years as she's her star has been rising on MS. But Michael Steele, while he's a never Trump Republican, he you know, he's not enjoy Reed's field when it comes to incendiary race bombs. I'm not excusing the stuff he says, but he's not. And Alicia Menendez, same.

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So they're definitely making a move slightly closer to normal. I don't want to say center, but slightly closer to like the bounds of normal conversation by axing her because they know the country's over it.

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The new president of our network goes nameless. Rebecca does not get a name. Made it official today. This woman just took over on February 12th, by the way. It's not her. It's not her doing. This definitely came from all the way up. I guarantee you this was a Comcast call. This is probably Brian Roberts call.

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Well, it's going to be interesting to see what happens to some of the contributors who are on Joy's show, like the racist man, Ellie Mistal. I mean, he's truly, he and Joy were the two most racist people on TV, in my opinion. He just dropped a new column in The Nation saying as follows. Okay, pointing out the white hosts at the network remain, as of now, unaffected. Fair point, Ellie.

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You should get up in their grill about that, because them's their rules. You should make them play by them. What's happening over there is not subtle. Cable News has never been truly comfortable with authentic black voices. White executives tend to treat black folks as interchangeable. Joy Reid is not interchangeable. She's indispensable.

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And having dispensed with her cable TV news is left with a gaping hole. The black mentor class is being fired, not just on TV, but throughout America. That of course is the point. That's why people like joy are being cast aside. White viewers might think of the cable network, uh, They might think they just went after her because she is black and outspoken. But his point is she is our mentor.

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She is showing other black people how to be and act and complain a lot. And shutting her up by bounce passing her out of that post was intentional by the old white people running Comcast.

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Rumor has it that he couldn't stand Jerry Reed, which makes sense because she hates white people and he is one. So that's probably how that went down. Brian Roberts is not a complete lunatic. He's a businessman. And he likes making money. And that's why, you know, as long as MSNBC was doing well, he kind of let the machine go. But now it's hemorrhaging money.

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So you're saying he has the right point. He's just got the wrong groups that are being allowed permission and entry versus the ones who are getting kicked out. Exactly right. They won't let any And by the way, just just for those of you playing at home, here's a throwback to Ellie Mistel on Joy Reid show. So you can see why he's so upset that this platform is being canceled.

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It's amazing why their numbers are so low. I don't understand it. All right. Now, wait, in the time we have left, I'm dying to ask you, because the one thing I've seen a ton from you over the past month or so is you are not a fan of Elon Musk. And he's, I think, maybe I overstate it, but I don't think you are.

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And he's been all over the news running Doge and sending out the email to people saying, what did you accomplish this week? Then Trump stood by him and said, that was a great email. And I actually do think you need to fill that out or you could be fired. So what is it? Be specific about what it is Elon is or has been doing that turns you off so much.

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And so you start to take aim at the most annoying and weak actors first. And that, sadly, Joy, is where you fell on both counts. So it's not this woman Rebecca's fault, but Rachel Maddow would like to go out there and pillory all of them, including the new president who made it official today. some of the shows are moving, blah, blah, blah.

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Well, that's interesting because I've been seeing, I respect and appreciate your judgment, and I've been seeing that you're not a fan. And Steve Bannon now infamously is not a fan. Those two have been kind of at each other. And it's fair. You know, we had the all-in guys on last Friday. They are very much fans of Elon and what he's doing. And I get what you're saying.

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I think he's, you know, he's a very unique figure. And the transhumanist thing was the one that stood out at me because... you know, he's during the year, the neural link, like that actually could, that could solve paralysis at some point. So there's some upsides to the way he sees the human machine possibilities too. But we've never had a figure like him, not in modern day America.

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And I would say the other thing is, maybe Trump did see how much heat Elon would be taking and he's enjoying it because it's given him some cover for, I mean, truly, if Trump wraps up Ukraine in the next two weeks, as he is saying they might, and finishes off this peace deal in the Middle East with the return of the hostages, he should get the Nobel Peace Prize.

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I mean, there would be no question that Trump should get the Nobel Peace Prize. And that's within the first two months of taking office, right? It's like, maybe you want the big, you know, different distraction, who I will say also calls himself retarded, but whatever, over here, you know, while you're focused on things that really deeply matter, right?

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Then she wants everyone to be assured that she, she is, uh, here, she's going to be here five days a week for the first hundred days of Trump's presidency as planned. Okay. But as planned, I'm going back to just Mondays after I'm hell no, I'm not working five days a week on an ongoing basis. Here's just a little of that.

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Fair, fair enough. Yeah, the personal life. I mean, look, we've talked about a lot in the show, the personal life of a few of the nominees who have gone up, not ideal, but we have to depend on them because no one's perfect. I mean, like even Kristi Noem, who I'm just, I complete, she's lost me as a fan with the shooting the dog in the face, poor little cricket, and then the Corey Lewandowski.

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But I have to say, notwithstanding, I'm totally rooting for her now. She's got a very big, important job, one that we really need her to succeed at. So I'm just, personally, I view it through such a different lens than I used to just on that front because it's like we have a country, a world to save. And you know what? God, believe it. It's happening. It's happening.

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So anyway, Batya, always a pleasure. Those poor Bebus boys, that has been the most horrific thing I've seen in a long time in the news. And it is a reminder that evil exists and we need strong leaders on the side of the good. All the best, my friend.

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Oh, thank you. You too, Baja. All right. Coming up, we're going to have this. I've actually been looking forward to meeting her. Now her husband is a superstar, former NFL player. She was on the Real Housewives and she'll be here along with the husband in just a bit. Can you guess who they are? Stay tuned.

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The stance that President Trump has been championing about keeping biological men out of women's sports continues to connect with people all across this country. That includes one former cast member of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, Anna Marie Wiley.

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Anna Marie is married to former NFL great and digital host Marcellus Wiley, who's been on this show multiple times and will be here to join his wife soon. But first, we welcome Anna Marie to the show. Nice to have you.

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Oh, same. So I confess that while I love the Real Housewives franchise, I only catch it like here and there. So I did not see your year on the show. And is it true you only got the one season?

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Hell no. Why would I change that? I'm not working full-time for my first $30 million and now $25 million a year. She had to take a pay cut, you see. Maybe you've had to take a pay cut at your job recently, given the economy. Did you go from $30 to $25 million and then act like you took one for the team? Aw. Well, smallest violin for poor Rachel Maddow down to 25 million meager bucks a year.

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But Bravo, I guess, had different ideas. All of your diverse background. And I mean, I know you just got back from the Trump White House where you guys were invited there to celebrate Black History Month. For sure, if that had happened prior to the Real Housewives thing, they would not have cast you. But I'm going to guess...

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Right, that you maybe weren't saying exactly the right things to please the Bravo executives because I don't remember the season that had anybody who wasn't an established progressive in any of the main roles. I mean, I've listened to that cast out there talk about the Me Too movement, like believe all women and women would never make up these stories and they hate Trump.

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So it's like, I wondered, do you think that played any role in your short stint there? Yeah.

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Candace is radical in that way. She too is opposed to pedophilia and will fight out against to speak out unabashedly when she sees it. Meanwhile, Kim Kardashian still backed the brand, even in the midst of all that, wouldn't break ties with them. That's what she stands for. Her own access to designer wear, no matter the consequences, one of the many reasons why we do not like her.

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But that's not changing. I agreed to do first hundred days, five nights in the anchor chair. But I'm not agreeing to come back full time because I'm Rachel Maddow and I run this network. I run you, Brian, and I run you, Mark Lazarus, and I run you, Rebecca. And if you don't like it, you can kiss my lesbian white fat ass. That's really what you say. And they will. They will.

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Um, so, so then you leave the real housewives and you and Marcellus do this very brave thing, which is actually go to the Trump white house. It's not like going to the Biden white house or the Obama white house, or, you know, a Clinton white house. It's the orange man, bad Hitler, Trump. What made you say yes to that invitation?

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Now, am I correct that Marcellus doesn't like Black History Month? I think I've heard him say.

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Because one of the two of you sitting there like and he and he's like. And you're like, no, it's good.

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Let me play that just so people know what you're talking about. Stephen A. Smith weighed in recently. Yeah.

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So we just went on Saturday night, we went to Madison Square Garden and we watched Duke play Illinois. It was college teams, but they make the trip to like one of the bigger arenas every once in a while. And I mean, that Duke team is like a dream team. They were unbelievable. This is the men. They were so good. It was just like a thing of beauty.

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It reminded me of back when I just graduated law school and I saw the dream team, the Chicago Bulls with Jordan and Pippen and all those guys play where it's just like a thing of beauty on the court. Like it's almost... like a dance more than a sport almost, you know what I mean? Or it's just like, there's a flow where you're like, wow.

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And I don't know anything about sports, but that's how I felt watching it. But the thought of any one of those guys going over and playing against the women, you know, any one of them would be a total game changer, a literal game changer in every game in which he played.

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because they have so far, and they've let her get away with hell. Okay, she points out that Alex Wagner is not coming back at nine. She will be a senior political analyst. That's obviously demotion. I don't have to walk you through why. Jen Psaki will take over doing the other four hours of Rachel Maddow's 9 p.m. She talks about Joy, who is not taking a different job at the network.

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Well, it's incredible because that sort of camel's nose under the tent of like, well, let's just be fair and let these so-called trans kids play in sports, you know, and forget what it does to the girls has now the full camels under the tent where they're really erasing women. Every day you awake to a new story. Thank God Trump is fighting back against it.

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But the left is not letting go of this easily. The trans activists are the most rabid of all activists and

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And the latest nonsense comes out of Washington state where I know, forgive me, there is something in Washington state, but this one's from Wisconsin where the governor, Tony Evers has decided to refer to, um, the people who would benefit from his IVF law, you know, protecting IVF procedures as inseminated persons. That's instead of mothers here, he is defending the decision sought 34. Yeah.

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Totally dodging his decision to refer to mothers as inseminated persons. No man can be an inseminated person carrying a baby.

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And by the way, not for nothing, but I've done IVF. I used it for my kids. And you're not technically an inseminated person when you do IVF. You're having something implanted in you that's an embryo. The semen happens outside of the body when you do use IVF, Governor Evers, if you really want to get technical. But truly think about the term and how kind of gross it is.

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You say mother, and you think of a soft place to fall, a fierce mama bear who protects her young against the most ardent threats. You think about somebody who is both loving and caring and nurturing and strong, providing guidance and discipline where necessary. When you say inseminated person, I'm sorry, all I picture is a penis ejaculating inside of a woman's birth canal.

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It reduces you down to sperm, to semen. That's all motherhood now is. It's so offensive.

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She's leaving the network altogether. And that is very, very hard to take. Very, very hard to take. I'm 51 years old. I have been gainfully employed since I was 12. And I have had so many different kinds of jobs. You wouldn't believe me if I told you, oh, are you just a woman of the people? Why don't you tell us? Walk us back to when you were a normal person.

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So we talked on the show yesterday about the loony Maine governor, Janet Mills, who's trying to make a name for herself by not, not enforcing the Trump federal EOs on gender and boys trying to play girls sports. She's going to lose, but that one's playing out in the courts. And then I mentioned, mentioned Washington state.

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Now we have the education chief defending so-called trans athletes claiming it is inaccurate to say that there are only two genders in Here is that man, Chris Rakedal in SOP 33.

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Can I ask you a question, Anna Maria? Because you said assigned male at birth, which is, that's leftist ideology. Like, because I wonder why you say that. I know it's the leftist language, but I see the cross around your neck. And I know you don't believe God makes mistakes on babies. And when the baby comes out male, it's a boy.

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It's not assigned anything by a man or a woman who happens to be an MD. So I just wonder why you use that term.

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Because now with your $30 million a year and your multiple homes for doing no work, not many of us can really relate to you. I'm going to be honest. All right, Miss, what was it? Stanford and Oxford Road Scholar. It's possible you lost your tether to the normal people of the world, even if you want us to believe you that you've had so many different kinds of jobs.

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All right. Quick break here. I have to say this. I think I would love for you to consider just speaking truthfully as opposed to what somebody else has told you is respectfully. Cause I really think that the slow by the bit by bit erasure of women. And I wasn't always here. My audience knows this, but I'm firmly here now. It begins with the manipulation of the language.

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There are realities, biological realities, you know, anyway, let's stand by because I have to take a quick break and we're going to come back with Marcellus and we can pick it up there. I'm sure he'd love to jump in on this too. I'm Megyn Kelly, host of The Megyn Kelly Show on Sirius XM.

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Back with me now is Anna Marie Wiley, as well as her husband, Marcellus Wiley, host of Hydration Situation and more. Where can they find Hydration Situation, just so they know?

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All right. So when we left off, I was just lecturing. It wasn't right, but I had to do it, Anna Marie, about saying assigned male at birth or assigned female at birth as opposed to just born a boy or born a girl. I don't know. I'm over any of the gentle language. I'm all pro-truth. But what do you think, Marcellus? I mean, your wife is probably nicer than the two of us. I don't know.

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Yes, I know. Honestly, it's a journey for a lot of people. And I think girls in particular are raised to be nice, quote, nice. And so, you know, they don't want to do anything that would just be unnecessarily offensive to people. That's a totally normal and laudable instinct. I submit that it's been taken advantage of by not well-meaning activists who are exploiting it to hurt our young girls.

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And so we as adult women need to say, no, no, we're done. We're done doing that. OK, I want to talk to you about where we are on the sports thing, Marcellus, because we have made leaps and bounds. I think Elon's buying X was instrumental in getting us all to be able to talk about what's real fundamentally. But now it got to the point where this was the deciding thing in the last election.

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You wouldn't believe me if I told you. Why is that? We wouldn't believe you because you've become such an out of touch elitist snob that nobody would understand if you had any sort of a working class experience in your background. Okay.

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This was at least one of the I think it was the in the swing states, but at least one of the top items in the last election. And so I wondered now, like in four years, whether you think there's any chance this pendulum swings back the other way if, God forbid, we have a Kamala Harris presidency. By the way, that she's already talking about running again.

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Wikipedia describes sanctimony as a feeling or display of moral superiority. Here's another one for you. Self-righteous from Oxford. A certainty, especially an unfounded one, that one is totally correct or morally superior. I give you Rachel Maddow. We will kick it off with SOT7.

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The Democrats aren't able to let it go, which has gotten them a lot of criticism, even from their side, because smart people realize this is a loser of an issue. Here was Charlamagne Tha God talking about it just the other day on his show, SOT 31.

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She goes on, but in, I'll get to that in a second, Deb, but in all the jobs I've had in all the years I have been alive, there is no colleague for whom I have had more affection and more respect than Joy Reid. I'm going to tell you something. I played part of this at the top. this is over the top and I'm going to put it on the table. I think it's racial.

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So what do you make of that? I mean, what do you think of that? And Maria, let me ask you, because it's I think it's mostly Democrats doing that. The Republicans have said how they feel and Trump won. So they're ready to move on. But the Democrats, if you turn into CNN or MSNBC, they're still very obsessed with this. They're still fighting for this.

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They're still putting on men posing as women, trying to claim that they can't have their so-called right shut down by Trump executive orders.

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I think she is saying this in, in the way people say some of my best friends are black. It's, it's like, see how much I love my black colleague. Listen to how she talks. There is no colleague for whom I have more affection or more respect than Joy Reid. I love everything about her. I have learned so much from her. I have so much more to learn from her.

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So you're a football player. I think about my kids. So my boys now are 15 and 11. And my 15-year-old, who's a freshman in high school now, they have to play a sport in seventh grade for school. And so a lot of them, most of them, play football in the fall season. But they play seventh and eighth together, and some of the schools have seven, eight, nine together.

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And you know, a boy in ninth grade versus a boy at the beginning of seventh grade, that can be like a man playing a little boy, right? Like it could be a post-pubescent boy, it looks like a man, versus this little scrawny, skinny, right? Like sinewy guy. It's dangerous. And that is the same thing as...

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a woman trying to play male football or putting a woman into a male sport, like that's the level of danger. We moms on the sideline would be like, oh my God, oh my God, like, oh, I hope he lives. And the thought of it being a girl who's not even going to touch the levels of testosterone starting to come into that, even the scrawny boy's body, it's downright scary.

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You know, it's like, we would never look at NFL football and say, where are all the women?

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Okay, now speaking of football, you have to walk through me with the controversy that I got involved in this week. Kind of not through my own fault, exactly. But the Sun newspaper had a report that the Eagles were not going to go to the White House to celebrate their win. And I retweeted it telling them to F off. Okay. And this was bad because it wasn't true, as it turns out.

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The Sun was fake news, and they hadn't even been asked to go to the White House, much less refused. Now, the Sun was reporting that they had spoken with somebody on the ownership team, and that person had said, zero chance we're going to go. And they did refuse to go when they won the Super Bowl in 2018. But now, in the wake of all this...

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People who are connected to the Eagles are reporting and the White House is confirming that they have not yet been asked, but that the Eagles will go if asked, which would, I think, induce Trump to ask them. So it could have a very happy ending. But what is it about the Trump White House, do you think, that makes it even a question mark that the Eagles wouldn't go in 2018?

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And at least somebody connected to the ownership told The Sun, hell no, we are definitely not going to go if we win this game.

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Let me make sure I put myself in this subservient position to Joy Reid, because that is what we do in the Robin DiAngelo field of being an anti-racist, the Ibram X. Kendi field of being an anti-racist. We just...

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I hope you're right, because Trump definitely reached out to all communities when he was running and then showed up at the game. You know, no president's ever gone to the big game before. That was great. Right. And he he was there. He's cheering on both teams. I really hope it works out. I think it's a unifying moment for the country when that happens.

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put on our listening ears, remember the girl on the white women for Kamala, and we learn, we listen, and God forbid we feel the need to correct a person of color, we stop and take a beat because people of color can't be wrong and they can't be fired either unless they are, in which case then everybody on the left side has to yell racism.

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So I asked your beautiful wife about this and she said for me to ask you, but is it true you don't believe in Black History Month?

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I totally agree with you. I feel the same thing about Women's History Month. It's like, of course, the kids, every other month they're going into another one of these things. I have to say, my son, he asked a really good question. He's like, it just seems like our priorities are really screwed up when we have like a Pride Month and a Veterans Day. Like, right on, honey. You got it exactly.

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Anyway, you guys, thank you. It's wonderful to see you both. Marcellus, Anna Marie, please come back. And thanks to all of you guys for joining us today. We'll see you tomorrow and we will see you tomorrow morning for AM Update. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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And also that they were my best friend and I greatly respected them more than anybody. And I learned so much from them and I have more to learn. Okay. It's a form of self-flagellation and it's pretty obvious. This is not how normal people talk about their colleagues. She is doing this for effect. Okay. I do not want to lose her as a colleague here at MSNBC.

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And personally, I think it is a bad mistake to let her walk out the door. By the way, think of what a like a fuck you this is really to her network, which is paying her the 30 million or 25 million a year. Like who asked her? She's not breaking news here. She's just offering her opinion. My employer fucking sucks. And I think is actually kind of racist. Like you needed to go on the air with that.

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That's what a door is for. You go and you knock on it and you talk to your bosses directly if you disagree with the decision that they have made. This is not the Pentagon Papers here. This is not calling them out on their lies about Harvey Weinstein, which she did, to her credit. This is, I disagree with your decision, and I think you're a racist.

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Well, if you really think that, then you should not be working there. Why don't you take your $25 million and walk, sister? Put your money where your mouth is. You already have enough money to get you through the rest of your life. If you're really so disgusted with their racism over there, and I'll get to more of her accusations that her bosses are racist, then leave.

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Why do you want to work for a bunch of racists, Rachel? Could it be that you have a tinge of racism inside of you as well, which is why you feel the need to make such a big deal out of your friendship with the black co-host who you respect more than anybody you've ever worked with ever? Okay. She goes out. It's not my call. And I understand that, but that's what I think.

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I will tell you, it is also unnerving. And you heard this up top to see that on a network where we have two and she does the, she does the fingers too. Two, count them, two non-white hosts in primetime. Both of our non-white hosts in primetime are losing their shows, as is Katie Fang, on the weekend. And that feels worse than bad, no matter who replaces them.

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That feels indefensible, and I do not defend it. So we have two non-white hosts in the primetime. I mean, not for nothing, but 7 p.m. is not primetime, where Joy Reid was. The people in that slot like to say it is, but it's not. Primetime is 8, 9, 10. And the people who have 11, they try to glom onto. But really, primetime is 8, 9, 10. Anyway, we'll count it for now.

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That's the one, Joy Reid, the non-white host losing her spot. And the other one is Alex Wagner, who I actually didn't know what her ethnicity was exactly. I looked it up. Her father's white and her mother is from Burma, now Myanmar. So she's Southeast Asian. So she's half Southeast Asian, and she's upset about Katie Fang, who is also Asian American. And that's ultimately just so ironic, right?

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Of course, because it is the white liberals like Rachel Maddow who have been making the arguments that Asians don't count on the oppression scale.

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Just ask the kids who had to bring that affirmative action case against Harvard, saying, we're getting perfect grades, we're getting perfect SATs and ACTs, we're getting tons of extracurriculars on our resumes, and none of us can get into these schools because you discriminate against Asians. And then we were told, well, you're not on the oppression roster, so that's why. Get out.

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We don't care about the Asians. But now that one half Southeast Asian, and Katie Fang is Asian American, are getting not fired, but just not allowed to sit in their anchor desk chair anymore. Now that's racist, too. Here they count. When Rachel needs to make a point, you're back on the list. Congratulations. Welcome back to Destitution Derby.

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You are back in the running toward the overly oppressed. Okay, she goes on. Okay, this is where, now this, we kind of talked about her white guilt. Now she's going to get to her rich guilt. But there's just one other piece of it that you should know.

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From your side of the TV screen, you low-life serfs out there, you will mostly see changes in terms of who's in the anchor chair, the vaunted anchor chair. Don't forget, remember the way they talked about themselves when they fired Ronald McDaniel? The vaunted halls of NBC News. Remember? Remember Nicole Wallace? She had the same badge as we did. The disgust.

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This is how they actually feel about where they work. And actually, everybody who's going to be in the anchor cheers from here on out, they're great. They're great. They're great at what they do. You're not going to be disappointed at all in who's on our air and who you're seeing.

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Oh, and by the way, we never covered the fact that, yes, two of the four hosts in her version of primetime are women of color who are getting ousted. Joy Reid's being replaced by three people of color. Net net, they have more now. All right. They have more. So it's like Alex Wagner, half Southeast Asian. She's gone. Well, a Latina is coming into the primetime who wasn't there before.

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Joy Reid is leaving. She's a black woman. Well, two black people are taking over her spot with that Latina. So, I mean, if we're really just going to go by the numbers, Rachel, I think you've increased your numbers. Is that how does it work? Let's call in Ibram. Let's call in Rachel. or whatever her name is, Robin. Okay, so she goes on. Okay, you're going to love everybody.

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Despite many public barbs and expressions of discontent, the U.S. and Ukraine are reportedly within inches of signing a deal that would forge an extended economic partnership. The latest details confirmed to Axios by Ukrainian officials call for a reconstruction investment fund. The U.S. and Ukraine will be co-managers. The Ukrainians will contribute $500 billion to the fund, double what the U.S.

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Despite some tension between Presidents Trump and Zelensky, the US and Ukraine are close to signing an agreement. As the U.S. prepares to make a significant financial investment into Ukraine, European leaders step up to provide security assurances.

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will put in, expected to take the form of minerals. This appears to be a compromise from President Trump's initial position that Ukraine would have to pay the U.S. back for its support over the last three years. The draft of the agreement reads, quote, The fund will invest in projects in Ukraine, which they hope will lure other investors into Ukraine, along with new development prospects.

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Further details from the agreement stipulate some direct repayment to the U.S. for its aid. though the exact terms remain unclear. President Trump commented on the agreement from the Oval Office yesterday while hosting French President Emmanuel Macron.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Tuesday, February 25th, 2025, and this is your AM Update.

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President Trump stating the war could end within weeks, quote, if they are smart. Terms of the deal do not include any type of U.S. military commitment in Ukraine. It is purely an economic proposition backed by the idea that an area of strong financial interest for America will not be an easy target for the wandering eye of Russian President Vladimir Putin.

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Since taking office, President Trump repeatedly stated his expectation. is for European leaders to take more of a lead in protecting Europe. French President Emmanuel Macron has been a leader in rallying European leaders to contribute more, holding two emergency sessions to coordinate Europe's response. Mr. Macron spoke about those efforts yesterday at the White House via a translator.

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Earlier in the day, President Trump was asked if President Putin will accept European troops in Ukraine as peacekeepers. The president responding from the Oval.

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President Trump says at some point he will meet with Mr. Putin. Over the weekend, Russia's Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov telling Russian state media the groundwork for the summit is underway and topics will include wider talks on global issues, not just the war in Ukraine.

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British Prime Minister Keir Starmer is scheduled to visit the White House on Thursday for further discussions on European participation in Ukraine's security. Meanwhile, in Germany, the potential next chancellor is telling his European counterparts the U.S. cannot be relied on.

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New York City Mayor Eric Adams announces the closure of the four-star hotel that was used as a command center to receive thousands of migrants under the Biden administration. And a major shakeup at MSNBC leaves viewers without any joy. All that and more coming up on your AM updates. So many people these days are super focused on their health, right? On eating healthier and living healthier.

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Friedrich Merz hot off his Sunday election win, criticizing the Trump administration's approach to negotiations with Russia, saying the attempt to make a deal with Russia on Ukraine, in his view, without the Europeans or Ukraine, is unacceptable. Mr. Mertz saying if they, quote, do not just make America first, but America alone their motto, then it will be difficult.

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He followed up on that comment with optimism that he will succeed in maintaining the transatlantic partnership. But before Mr. Mertz can shape Germany's foreign policy, he has to secure his own path to power at home. Germany's parliamentary system means parties have to form coalitions. Merz's center-right coalition secured just 29% of the seats.

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In second place, the AfD, the Alternative for Germany party. They won about 21% of the seats. The conservative government voted for by about half of the German population. will likely not come to fruition, however. Historian Victor Davis Hanson explained further on The Megyn Kelly Show yesterday.

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Coming up, New York City Mayor Eric Adams says the Roosevelt Hotel converted migrant processing facility is closing. And a big shakeup at MSNBC leaves viewers joyless. These days, personal safety is not something that can be left to chance. Whether at home, on the road, or just living everyday life, having a reliable way to protect yourself and your family is crucial.

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A flashpoint of the immigration debate, the four-star accommodation rented out by taxpayers under a $220 million contract providing lodging for thousands of migrants brought in under the Biden administration. The city quickly began to collapse amid the influx of migrants bused to the city by Texas Governor Greg Abbott.

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The 4,000 migrants arriving per week in New York at that time, just a tiny fraction of the onslaught Texas was dealing with along the southern border. In December, Mayor Adams' office reported that the arrivals had fallen to just 800.

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New York City is a sanctuary city with a right to housing, meaning the city was barred from cooperating with ICE officials, and they were required to provide shelter for all new arrivals. The Roosevelt Hotel and other shelters will officially close by June of this year. With the arrival of the Trump administration, Mayor Adams promised to increase cooperation between city and federal officials.

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Critics of the mayor say this closure is the product of a quid pro quo deal. Mayor Adams was facing corruption charges brought under the Biden administration. They were dropped by the Trump DOJ. Mayor Adams denies the allegations. He began publicly speaking out about the immigration crisis in the summer of 2023. saying, quote, our cup has basically runneth over. We have no more room in the city.

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Documents obtained by CBS suggest the Trump administration is preparing to implement Title 42, the order used during COVID to expel incoming migrants on the grounds of health concerns without entertaining any asylum claims. Title 42 was first implemented under Trump 1.0. The Biden administration kept it in place until 2023.

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CBS reporting the CDC is planning to issue an order labeling the illegal immigrants as a public health risk. In May 2024, a measles outbreak in Chicago was traced back to a migrant shelter. Joy Reid out of a job as MSNBC's new president makes major programming changes. Reid is the highest profile star of the network to get the axe, though others are now going to.

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In December, Reid was reportedly required to take a pay cut from her alleged $3 million salary in order to hold on to her chair. Never a good sign. The network plans to fill the time slot with a panel show hosted by Simone Sanders Townsend, who previously worked as a senior advisor to Kamala Harris.

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Michael Steele, Never Trumper, who at one point headed the RNC, and left-wing journalist Alicia Menendez, the daughter of former Democratic Senator Bob Menendez. The final episode of The Readout aired last night.

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Those four viewers are really going to miss her. Alex Wagner, host of the 9 p.m. slot four days per week, is getting a demotion to correspondent. Former Biden White House press secretary Jen Psaki will take over that time slot after the conclusion of the first hundred days of the Trump administration.

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That's when Rachel Maddow goes back to work hosting just one day a week while still earning her $30 million paycheck. reportedly. Earnings? Hmm. That'll do it for your AM update. I'm Megyn Kelly. Join me back here for The Megyn Kelly Show later today, live on SiriusXM Triumph Channel 111 at Noon East, on YouTube.com slash Megyn Kelly, and on all podcast platforms.

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Welcome to the Megyn Kelly show live on Sirius XM channel one 11 every weekday at noon East. Welcome to the Megyn Kelly show. I'm Megyn Kelly today. We are bringing in Steve Bannon in just a moment, but first I want to start with this news update because the story is kind of confusing. So I'm, I laid it out for you. Okay. It's about Pete Hegseth and the knives are out for him.

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the Department of Defense began investigating those leaks and made it known in the press that they would be using polygraphs to get to the bottom of who was behind them. Now, as with any time a threat like that makes its way into the public eye via the news, one has to wonder, are they really going to polygraph everyone or are they just setting some sort of a trap?

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For example, first person to complain about the polygraphs is likely someone you want to polygraph or at least look into. Now, in the course of that investigation, Defense Secretary Hegseth wound up firing three of his top aides. On Friday, it happened. They were escorted out of the building.

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I don't think you're wrong. And I but I wonder who they're fighting. I think they're fighting Trump, not Pete. You know, Pete is Trump's executor. Pete will do what he is told to do. And Trump has had he hasn't been as non-interventionalist as that core strain of MAGA. Right. Like he bombed Soleimani. His rhetoric around Iran has been a lot more bellicose than I think

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Some in the party would like to hear we do not want saber rattling, suggesting our boys are going to have to go fight a war against Iran at all, much less than have to do it. But I think what like my take on this story is my own opinion based on the facts as I just laid them out. is that probably there is a strong anti-interventionalist strain within the Pentagon.

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A lot of these, you know, and this guy Caldwell's former military too, he fought abroad and saw horrible things. And I think a lot of those guys like Pete got to the place where they do not want us to be too trigger happy. And so I'm not saying Caldwell leaked those top secret documents to NBC News, but it certainly could have been him. And it looks like the Pentagon thinks it was him.

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And if he were to do it, why would he do it? Well, because those documents were about possible war down in Panama, possible use of armed forces in Panama. It's possible there is a strain even within the Pentagon that's even more to just make it easy to understand dovish than those in charge and certainly more dovish than Trump.

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Those fired include some who had been close to Secretary Hegseth before he became secretary, like Senior Advisor Dan Caldwell, who had worked with Pete at Concerned Veterans for America for some nine years. Also fired Deputy Chief of Staff Darren Selnick and Colin Carroll, Chief of Staff to the Pentagon's Deputy Secretary.

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Let me just keep it simple for me. Keep it simple for me. Why would somebody, and again, with all due respect to Dan Caldwell, who I want to underscore, is denying that he leaked anything. But why would someone like that leak the- I mean, the report was that Trump had asked the Pentagon to drop war plans against the Panama against the Panamanians, basically to retain the Panama Canal.

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Okay, but wait, but you've got to help me because if that whole – if that – what you were saying ended with and is – was – and Dan Caldwell is a neocon who doesn't want that. He wants – he doesn't want defense department budgets to be slashed. He wants us to be more interventionalist in Eurasia, and he doesn't want us to be focused on Panama.

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A fourth staffer, a press aide named John Elliott, also parted ways with the Pentagon, supposedly because he didn't want to be second in command of the comms shop. But there's some real sour grapes with this guy. He ran too political, first of all, a left wing rag to say the Pentagon is in disarray under Secretary Hegseth and predicted that Hegseth will be fired by President Trump.

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Oh, wow. There is something coming in from left field. Is Ron DeSantis the source that NPR is basing their outlooking for others? Because Eric Erickson, a conservative commentator, was all over X last night saying he's hearing it too from White House staffers. I'm being assured it's not true. And Trump himself on camera yesterday saying it's not true with no wiggle room.

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Trump knows how to leave himself a little wiggle room, but he gave a full-throated endorsement of Pete. I remain confused. I still don't get it. If Caldwell's the leaker of the Panama Canal attack plan news, that would be something that would be done by someone who is, I think, extremely dovish, which he sounds like he is. But he, in that interview with Tucker, sounded more...

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pro-protecting Panama Canal than getting involved in Iran. So it doesn't make sense to me that he's the leaker to NBC. And that's a point in his favor. In any event, we'll find out eventually because we're going to know.

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Almost immediately after, Don Trump Jr. took to X and made clear that this guy, Mr. Elliott, is not America first, though he claims to be, and is officially exiled from the movement. He's not happy with this guy, Elliott. The three alleged leakers, however, remain a bit of a mystery.

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Mm hmm. That's exactly right. They'd be thrilled to get Pete Hegseth's scalp. They couldn't care less. They don't they don't think there's chaos. They don't think they don't care about any of that. They just want to scalp anyone on Team Trump will do. Sec def would be brilliant in their minds. That's all they care about.

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And I think Trump should stand by him and not show them that he'll roll over based on Politico and NPR, which doesn't sound like Trump to me. I think he will stand by him. And by the way, we'll hear more. This is not going to be it. They're not done with Pete, especially these guys who are now obviously going to be pretty bitter that they got fired. I'm sure we'll see more.

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So Trump's going to have to be steely spined on Pete, as he has been from the beginning. All right, let's talk about what the Democrats have done. I mean, if you if Trump had like. drawn it up in a like dark cigar smoke filled room. He couldn't have done much better than to get all these Democrats running down to embrace this MS-13 gang member, wife beater, Abrego Garcia. But they're doing it.

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The best video I saw online was someone used AI to show Chris Van Hollen, Senator Van Hollen of Maryland, dancing with the MS-13 guy, Abrego Garcia in the- like a waltz together. Sometimes AI is used for good, but they're running down there to embrace him, Steve.

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And while we don't know what's going to happen on the legal battle for Trump, he's had a setback with the Supreme Court this past weekend. PR wise, politically, he's winning this, isn't he?

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Why would Pete's top aides, including his friend Dan Caldwell, allegedly leak to NBC News about alleged war plans involving the Panama Canal? And there were other leaks, too, like that Elon Musk went over to the Pentagon. There were it was there were a few of them. It wasn't just the one. But this one would be top secret.

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Yes, I totally agree with that. We talked about the numbers just the other day. They were 10 and a half million before Joe Biden took over in this country. And now you've got the Center for Migrant Studies saying, well, now they estimate it's about 11.7. Oh, way more than a million came in under Joe Biden. In fact, CPB estimates it's more like eight point two million.

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So now you're talking, you know, to round up 20 million illegals here, 500000 of which a little less are said to be also extra criminals. You know, you're you're a criminal if you came in here illegally, but then committed other crimes. And that's what he's starting with. So they've been doing a good job of stopping it legally. But how can Trump I mean, Trump could in the Abrego Garcia case.

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literally under the best, totally, um, what's the opposite of the straw man, stone Manning, uh, strong Manning, the other side's argument. I'm a strong man.

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The other side's argument, the absolute best they can argue about a Brego Garcia is that he's entitled to be flown back to the United States, brought in front of an immigration judge who can then say that gang you were fearing in El Salvador is no longer. Therefore the, uh, Suspension of removal to El Salvador is lifted, and now you have to go back home, and then we fly him home.

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That is literally the best case scenario for Abrego Garcia right now. And this is all this time and U.S. senators and energy expended on this one man's case. Forget the fact that he's a gang member, allegedly. Forget the fact that he's a wife beater. It's all interesting, but it's irrelevant legally. All you have to prove is that he was here illegally and deported, which he was. He was.

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All that happened, except the court said... but not to El Salvador because he's convinced me he's going to get killed if he gets sent back there. So all we'd have to do is fly back here, have a little hearing where they said, you know what? That threat is no longer existent. You're going back home to El Salvador. Done.

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All we know for sure is that Dan Caldwell appears to be part of MAGA's more non-interventionalist wing, which is fine. That's probably how Trump won the election in large part. There's absolutely nothing wrong with being non-interventionalist. I think the Republican Party in general has had it with the forever wars and the more bellicose nature of some of the parties.

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But the reason they won't do it is what you just said, because you do that for the one they've won. The ACLU has won.

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I just don't think anybody is account other than the Trump administration. But none of these courts and we're not effectively making the point, I guess, enough to the judges or the appellate court judges or the Supreme Court that every single one of these came into this country without affording anybody any due process. No hearing was held to allow them. No application was filed to allow them.

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They just broke our laws. Why can't we just afford them commensurate due process with that they afforded us in coming into the country? Shouldn't it be a quid pro quo? It should be a match. If you fill out forms and we erroneously said you can stay here and now we're trying to deport you, you get your full hearing.

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But if you broke our laws to come here, why do you deserve anything before we get you out of here?

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Certainly the neocons have become... otherized and almost enemies to that strain of the party. So there's nothing wrong with Dan Caldwell feeling that way. And he does appear to feel that way. But the question is, was that view abhorrent to the people who fired him? Mr. Caldwell seems to think so. He went on Tucker's podcast last night with his first remarks since he got the ax and

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Voted to stop it either. Not one of the Trump justices voted. It's not that they're obligated to vote on his side. It's just if you are a conservative justice and you're you're opposing both Alito and Thomas, you've done something wrong. OK, I've got to get your reaction to Letitia James. finding herself on the wrong side of the law, allegedly.

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The audience probably remembers we reported this late last week, but now she's been referred to the DOJ by this housing investigator for having allegedly filled out fraudulent forms and getting two different mortgages, one out of Virginia.

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which she claimed reportedly as her primary residence, even though her primary residence is in New York where she's attorney general and one out of New York where she claimed allegedly for mortgage break purposes, that it was a dwelling that didn't have more than four apartments when in fact it has five and she would have had to pay more in a mortgage if she had been honest.

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And then he also alleged, uh, that back in 1998, In 1983, she applied for a mortgage with her father, claiming the two of them were husband and wife, allegedly as part of a scheme just to show she has a long history of playing fast and loose with the facts in applying for mortgages, meaning she thinks she's entitled to do something that the rest of us are not.

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So she finally spoke out to this on Thursday. And here is what she said on New York Spectrum One.

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Right on. Um, the daily caller sent two reporters down to Virginia or down to Virginia where she claimed as her primary residence. Again, clearly, obviously not. She's the AG of New York. She's required to live here just to see, you know, like, is she here? Does she own this building? Is she, is this somehow her primary residence? Here's how that went. It's not 35.

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And in that exchange, Caldwell suggests that he was forced out of the Pentagon, not because he leaked anything to any member of the press, which he denies doing, but because he is anti-war with Iran due to his experiences in Iraq.

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They've never not been out for him. They remain out for him. Who NPR, that bastion of exclusive Trump White House gets, is reporting maybe on his way out. They're reporting that Trump is looking for a replacement, which Trump is denying. Now, why would NPR have a scoop like that about Trump not matched by Fox News or any other outlet? Ask yourself that. Here's how we got here.

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It didn't sound like Letitia James to me, Steve. I know her voice pretty well by now.

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OK, absolutely. Speaking of people who love to be in front of the microphone, your old pal AOC, you've had very complimentary things to say about her in the past and her ability to resonate with the crowd and the Democrats is making a run for it right now. Fight the oligarchy tour. They're getting a lot of tens of thousands of people to watch AOC and Bernie.

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And she's polling at the top of the Dem field right now. All the numbers are relatively low, but she's at the top of it. I think she's right behind Kamala Harris in terms of their next favorite. So what do you make of what she's doing right now and whether it sets her up for a possible presidential run next time around?

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Steve Bannon, the one and only, always with a great take on things. Great to see you. Thanks for being here.

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Fascinating, right? My God, there's so much in the news and you really have to buckle in to really digest it all. Next up. Nancy Grace is here, and she is going to tell us about possibly the most bizarre criminal case I have ever heard of. I do not understand what happened here or how the system failed this family, but man, oh man, does she have a story for you. Stay tuned.

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I mean, you'll see why I say sort of. More than 14 years after it happened. Ellen Greenberg was a 27-year-old bride-to-be, first grade teacher, whole life in front of her, living in Philadelphia. loving family, whole bed, fiance whom she reportedly loved. One night, that fiance, Sam Goldberg, returned home. They'd been in the apartment together.

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She had gotten home early from school because it had been a very snowy day. So they apparently let school out. She came home early. He was home too. They lived in a six floor apartment in this Philadelphia, nice apartment building. And he went downstairs to work out in their in the gym that was in their apartment building. He came back upstairs and couldn't get the door open.

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Like one of those latches, those latch locks, was closed. He had been in the apartment with her some 45 minutes earlier, and now it was latched, the latch lock from inside. So he starts banging on the door and he says he went down to the doorman and enlisted help and so on.

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There's a dispute about whether that happened, but net net, he wound up breaking the door in, breaking the lock basically to get in and says that is where he found his fiancee. who appeared to him to be dead. Now, he called 911. Nancy Grace is here, and she's written an amazing new book on this. But listen to this, okay?

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Because he called 911, and it's a long call, but I'm going to play you the entire thing. We're going to bring Nancy in, and she's going to explain to us why this case has wound up being so bizarre and controversial. But just listen to his 911 call.

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Now, the suggestion implies that Secretary Hegseth or those who suggested to Hegseth that Caldwell be fired feel differently than Caldwell does there. Though I can tell you myself from many conversations with Pete over the past six months, he is far from a neocon. We've talked all about it. He was much more pro-war as much of the Republican Party was back during the Bush years. He signed up.

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Unbelievable. That was her fiance, Sam Goldberg. She would eventually go to the coroner's office where he would find she had been stabbed more than 20 times. And the medical examiner ruled her death a suicide. A suicide. Our next guest, Nancy Grace, has dedicated her life to finding answers in criminal cases. And this is very much her latest project. She's written a whole book about it.

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It's called What Happened to Ellen? An American Miscarriage of Justice. You can get it via audio. I downloaded the audio this morning. She had sent me the book. You can get it, the hard copy too. Nancy, welcome back to the show. Take it from there. Unbelievable. Like people do commit suicide, but- 20 times they stabbed themselves. Can you explain how?

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He left Princeton to go fight. I mean, he was in that mindset, which most of us were post 9-11. That's why he volunteered and fought at Gitmo and in Iraq and in Afghanistan. But he's had a serious change of heart from and thanks to those experiences, much like Caldwell. Pete is not a neocon. Honestly, President Trump is the one making the most noise about bombing Iran.

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So one of the there's so many really interesting facts connected with this. One of the damning facts against Sam Goldberg, who is, you know, obviously suspected by some as having killed her. He denies it. and is disgusted that that's been alleged and has a strong statement about mental health and how people don't understand it.

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But we're going to consider him because obviously that's what many people, including Ellen's family, think happened, that he killed her. But one of the things that is not a good fact for him is he did, while... I think while outside the apartment trying to get in, or let's at least during the period, he says he was out there trying to get in.

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He made two phone calls or he made a phone call to a cousin who happens to be a lawyer and that cousin's father, who's a lawyer called him back. So Nancy, that jumped out at me as like, why, if your fiance is outside of apartment in which, you know, you're non-responsive, why would he be calling a lawyer? Can you explain what happened there?

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And Pete's job is to do what President Trump tells him. Remember this from February with Trump?

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Let me take a stab at, bad choice of words, but defending the suicide theory. The people who believe it or who want us to believe it say she was on a couple of drugs, a sleeping medication and an anti-anxiety med. She was seeing a therapist. She, by the way, the therapist said she did not complain about the fiance at all. They seemed to have a loving relationship. for what it's worth.

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OK, I mean, that's good. But Trump hasn't taken military action against Iran off the table. It's, of course, what Israel wants. They want the green light for them to do it, which, of course, will draw all of us into a military conflict with them and their supporters as well. This is one of the topics of conversation that Caldwell and Tucker got into today.

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And she had these, I guess, commonly prescribed medications to help her sleep and to help with her anxiety and the reported side effects. They always list the side effects and they, they tend to include suicidality, you know, 99.99% of the cases it, they don't cause that, but the drug manufacturers put it on there as one of the possible risks.

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And so the theory is that though, you know, she seemed happy and she seemed maybe a little anxious, but net a happy person, something flipped. And many of those wounds were superficial, like a testing, which could happen. Somebody who's like seeing what it would feel like and working up the nerve to actually do it.

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And there was some question about whether, I saw the testimony by that one expert saying, yeah, those wounds didn't bleed and therefore they probably committed post-mortem. But then there was something on the other side saying, the same woman saying, but I can't be totally sure on that either, to be honest. So that's the argument that she took her own life.

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And of course, that she was in a locked apartment by herself. There was only one other way out. There was that front door that was locked with a latch from the inside. And there's only one other way out, which was the deck leading off their patio. But it was a snowstorm and the snow was totally preserved and unfootmarked at all.

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So the cops reasonably did not believe anybody had come in or gotten out from there. So it had to be, didn't it have to be her or her fiancee?

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Well, I listened to today, but it hit last night. Well, we can confirm based on our own reporting that Mr. Caldwell did not have his phone searched, nor was he polygraphed before he was escorted out of the Pentagon. He told Tucker that as well. But we do have to point out that those are not the only ways one can be discovered as a leaker.

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The latching of the lock is very interesting because was it the kind of lock that we all have in the hotel rooms, you know, with a little chain or was it something more, you know, strong?

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One of the ways they used to track confidential information at my old law firm, for example, was to make everybody log in before they could print a document. Do you have that at your company, maybe? If you work with sensitive information, they make you do that. That was one of the controversies over at the Supreme Court when they leaked the Dobbs decision.

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Why aren't we looking for a killer? Can I ask you a question about the fiancee? When he was, because he says he went down to work out, he came back up, the apartment door is latched and he's, you know, saying, hey, you know, he's sending her an increasingly annoyed series of texts inside. And then he says- He went down to the doorman and said, hey, I'm locked out. She's got the latch closed.

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And he claims the doorman was like, kind of like, not my problem. You're going to have to break it in if that's what you want, if you want to enter. And that's what he then did, went up there and pushed it open with his shoulder or his body. Does anybody verify any of that, Nancy? Does the doorman back that up?

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Did anybody witness the fact that he was locked out and pacing and trying to figure out what to do for that period of time, maybe like a 30-minute window after workout and before finding her?

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Remember, they were like, don't they have this system already where nothing can be printed without somebody logging in their ID number first? Anyway, nothing, nothing got printed at my law firm without a record of who did it. That's just one possible way of finding a leaker, not to mention one's desktop computer records or email records or possible intra office comms between loose lipped staffers.

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they never found the fiance's DNA on the knife. This was a shoddy investigation, no question. But what I read in any event is that his DNA was not found in the knife and that he was not found with blood all over him. I actually would have thought he would have had some blood on him just from that purported attempt at CPR that we heard him go through with the 911 operator. But you know,

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Again, just because as I look at it, I don't understand how it could be anybody else. I suppose there could have been somebody lying in wait in a closet and then they killed her. And then when they ran out of the apartment, they slammed the door so hard that somehow the latch connected. Maybe that's a possibility.

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But if you go with the odds and you look at the fiance, it just doesn't make sense to me that he... I don't know. He came back up. She had locked him out. He allegedly broke down the door. He says he locked down, he broke down the door. And at that point, if he did something to her, would the murder have occurred then, Nancy?

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Is that the, if you're against the fiance in this hypothetical world, would that have been the moment of murder or prior to the workout?

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The parents think she was a domestic abuse victim. And they point to those old bruises that were found, 11 bruises on her body that predated the date of her death. Keep going. Sorry.

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So, you know, with all due respect to Mr. Caldwell, it doesn't really answer the question definitively to say they didn't take his phone and they didn't give him a polygraph before they fired him. We don't know what they did at the Pentagon that led them to believe Dan Caldwell and those two others needed to go.

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But here's what he says. Sam Goldberg. He gave this statement to CNN in 2024. It was his first public statement. He hasn't spoken at all. This is as much as we could find. When Ellen took her own life, it left me bewildered. Thank you. mental illness is very real and has many victims.

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I hope and pray that you never lose someone you love like I did to a terrible disease and then be accused by ignorant and misinformed people of causing her death. If you're really writing a truthful story, dig deeper and please do some good by raising awareness for mental health, best SG. So he obviously believes she was mentally ill and that she took her own life and

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Now we have more questions like will Caldwell and these other two turn over their phones voluntarily to the Pentagon? Will they volunteer them? Will the other two come forward and offer their own defenses? Will these three voluntarily return any laptops or other electronics given to them by the Pentagon? Will they allow the Pentagon to search their personal laptops?

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And really hasn't said anything other than that since we heard on that 911 call him saying she stabbed herself. She fell on a knife, one of those two things.

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Wasn't that a weird statement, Nancy, can I ask you? The counter argument to that is that he just came out and did that to settle this case that the parents brought. And he said he withdrew the suicide declaration, but he didn't say homicide. He said something else, which is not, you know, it's kind of weak sauce.

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And that will not exactly help a new prosecutor say, I want to take this on as a homicide case.

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I mean, all of this can be obtained rather easily by a warrant, which may well yet be heading Mr. Caldwell's way, as well as the way of his two now-fired colleagues. Because while Caldwell told Tucker he would likely already be under arrest if he'd been caught leaking, the truth is that oftentimes—in fact, I think a lot of the times— They fire the suspected leakers.

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Mm-hmm. The book is called What Happened to Ellen? An American Miscarriage of Justice. We're going to take a break and be right back with Nancy Gray. So I'm going to ask about another big case in the news right now, the Brian Kohlberger case, and wait until you hear what the judge just ruled. Stand by. Let's be real, our modern world can be very toxic.

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The Brian Kohlberger case right now is set for trial this August, finally, after all these years of delay and some strange motions being filed, I think, by the defense so far without success in recent days. First, defense attorneys for Kohlberger asked the judge, Hippler, two Ps, you say it fast, it could be confused for another name, Judge Hippler.

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They continue their investigations because they don't want them having ongoing access to confidential information. So they fire them. They continue the investigations. And then when and if they have enough to charge the person, then comes the indictment, the handcuffs and the arrest, all of which could, I don't know, but could potentially be in these guys' future.

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Lur was not impressed with the motion to disallow any reference to the bushy eyebrows that his defense attorneys didn't want the roommate's description before she knew who Brian Kohlberger was when she was just describing the intruder. She saw he was wearing a mask, but recognized his bushy eyebrows. The judge has said that will not be barred. That's a matter for cross-examination. Secondly,

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The defense wanted to bring up that he's on the autism spectrum in like opening so that it might explain away what they suggested were some of his odd behaviors, perhaps during the hearing or during the trial. And the judge said, you're not bringing that in. You can if you want to put him on the stand and talk about him being on the spectrum. Great.

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But you can't just offer testimony as the lawyers in order to explain away either his behavior in the court or any other behavior in this case. And they also asked him if they could call an expert to talk about his alleged OCD. because they said prosecutors may make arguments that Kohlberger was destroying evidence right before law enforcement arrested him.

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And so they wanted to get around having him testify by having an expert take the stand and say that's his OCD, because I guess everybody who's got OCD puts all of their garbage in little Ziploc baggies and then has the garbage disposed of in the neighbor's trash. But this is defense attorney Ann Taylor doing whatever she can to zealously represent her client. So what do you make of,

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What does all that tell you about where this case is for the defense, first of all?

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Someone at the Pentagon has been leaking to the press about very serious matters, even top secret matters, like the report that appeared on NBC News in mid-March, revealing that the White House had directed the Pentagon to draw up options to increase American troop presence in Panama to advance the president's goal of reclaiming the Panama Canal. What was that doing on NBC News?

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I mean, now is the time for these three to be cautious. I was kind of shocked to see the one on Tucker's podcast. He's going on offense, saying I was fired from my Iran views, not because I leaked. We don't know whether that's true. We just don't know right now. I mean, I can tell you this.

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Howard Bloom, who's been all over the reporting on this case, reports that Kohlberger's mother, Marianne, his his reporting is that she's encouraging her son to plead not guilty, notwithstanding all this evidence and that there might even be a movement afoot.

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by Kohlberger's defense attorneys to somehow rest the decision to stay in the not guilty camp away from Marianne and Brian as we get to the trial and somehow convince this judge to let them

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When three people are accused of participating in the same allegedly illegal scheme, one and only one has the opportunity to cut a deal. One and only one has the opportunity to cut a deal. And the first one into the Pentagon to say, choose me, is going to get a great one. Anyone after that could be looking at prison time, potentially.

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enter into some sort of a plea bargain negotiation with the prosecution, that Brian Kohlberger is apparently not capable, potentially, of making this decision, that the mother's overly influential, and that Ann Taylor, as a defense attorney, probably knows better about what's going to happen at this trial. There's no world in which Ann Taylor can cut a deal for him without his consent, right?

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What he's saying is we're on our way to a trial, which Nancy will be all over and we're going to cover a lot too. Great to see you. Buy the book, What Happened to Ellen? out today and support the Center for Missing and Exploited Children. Nancy, thank you. We're back tomorrow. We'll see you all then. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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If in fact the Pentagon has evidence on leaking that it certainly seems to feel it does. All right. Getting back to the main story, though, since those terminations, it's been an all out assault on Pete Hegseth in the press. So when you read these hit pieces on Pete, you have to keep that in mind. This isn't coming out of nowhere. He he he did nothing to these people. He was running the Pentagon.

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Then somebody leaked top secret information to NBC News. Then they opened up an investigation at the Pentagon to figure out who did it. And the next thing we knew, these guys got fired. And now suddenly the field is flooded with hit pieces on Hegseth. The White House has made clear they think it's these guys behind these hippies.

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I mentioned that guy, Elliot. He wrote a direct hit piece under his own name, Politico, arguing, quote, from leaks of sensitive operational plans to mass firings. Still pissed about Doge. The dysfunction is now a major distraction for the president. So what is he talking about? He's talking about these leaks, which they investigated and just fired three people for.

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Elliot was not part of that firing. He's something else. And. Mass firings, Doge. That's the dysfunction. What's the dysfunction? People leaked, and unlike in previous administrations, Hegseth's trying to do something about it. And yeah, Doge hit the Pentagon, same as it hit the other administrative branches. What's the dysfunction, Mr. Elliott?

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And went on to say, try to play to Trump's vanity, saying the president deserves better from his senior leadership. And he predicted Pete will be fired. Elsewhere, we have just been seeing the drip, drip, drip of the chaos narrative, including news that Pete allegedly had a second signal chat going about those Houthi attack plans.

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This one, not with all the administration officials, but with people who are close to him, his personal advisors, meaning his brother, who works with him at the Pentagon now, his attorney, who also works with him at the Pentagon, he's military, and his wife, who doesn't work with him at the Pentagon.

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and would be a controversial person with whom to share, you know, his Houthi attack plans, which again, the Pentagon is saying we're not classified. And that could be because they would have, that would have to be because he had declassified them prior to sharing them with anybody. Mr. Trump asked about all of this, all of this yesterday.

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The second signal, Chad, and the narrative around Pete made very clear. He stands by Hegseth.

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Which is good because Pete is not a neocon. He's not a war hawk. He's not a chaos agent.

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The report was very specific. It stated, quote, U.S. Southern Command is developing potential plans for partnering more closely with Panamanian security forces to the less likely option of U.S. troops seizing the Panama Canal by force, end quote, citing, quote, two U.S. officials familiar with the planning.

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He's a warfighter who has helped already the Army, Navy and Air Force get on track for record recruiting years, who is eliminating woke from our armed forces, who is restoring lethality to our military by making sure standards are uniformly high and much, much more. So here to help unpack some of this Republican on Republican violence is Steve Bannon, host of Bannon's War Room.

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The Vatican confirming late Monday that Pope Francis passed away from a stroke and heart failure. The pope elected by his fellow cardinals in 2013 following the resignation of Pope Benedict XVI. He was the first Latin American pope and first of the Jesuit order, which is known for its missionary work.

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As head of the Catholic Church, Pope Francis worked to modernize the institution, pushing for a more inclusive vision of Catholicism, often facing criticism from the more traditionalist wing. He sought to reform the Vatican, at times wading into political issues of the day, emphasizing the fight against climate change and allowing priests to bless gay couples.

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Pope Francis also breaking precedent by appointing women and laypeople to high-ranking Vatican roles, most notably naming a nun to the second highest position in Vatican City's government. He drew the ire of some conservatives by restricting the use of Latin Mass, a more traditional version of the Mass.

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Pope Francis dies at age 88, and now the College of Cardinals will descend upon the Vatican to choose his successor.

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With the changes, Pope Francis aiming to better reflect the global church and expand leadership beyond the priesthood. The pontiff, born Jorge Moreo Bergoglio in Argentina in 1936, inspired to join the priesthood after recovering from severe illness as a young man. an infection resulting in the partial removal of one lung, leading to a lifetime of respiratory issues.

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The Pope spending 38 days in the hospital earlier this year, released on March 23rd after complications from an infection leading to double pneumonia. Easter Sunday marking his first extended public appearance since exiting the hospital, the Pope more often relying on a wheelchair, addressing crowds from the balcony at St.

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Peter's Basilica, a clergy member assisting in the reading of the Easter message, "...Christ is risen. These words capture the whole meaning of our existence, for we were not made for death, but for life. Easter is the celebration of life. God created us for life and wants the human family to rise again."

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Tuesday, April 22nd, 2025, and this is your AM Update.

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The Pope's remarks calling for peace in various conflict zones ranging from Ukraine and Gaza to Sudan and Myanmar. In the hours before his death, the Pope also visiting briefly with Vice President J.D. Vance, an adult convert to Catholicism. Earlier this year, Pope Francis criticized the Trump administration's mass deportation plans,

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while notably speaking from behind the Vatican's towering 40-foot stone walls. Despite the differences in political policy, President Trump posting on Truth Social, quote, Rest in peace, Pope Francis. May God bless him and all who loved him. Then on Monday from the White House, Mr. Trump addressing the Pope's passing.

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President Trump also announcing Monday afternoon that he and the First Lady will attend the Pope's funeral in Rome. The Pope's body expected to be moved into St. Peter's Basilica as early as Wednesday.

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Pope Francis breaking with tradition again, requesting that his body not be laid on a typical raised platform used for his predecessors, asking instead to lie inside a simple wooden casket with the lid removed, a more humble position.

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The pontiff is to be the first pope in more than a century laid to rest in a place other than the Vatican crypt, instead opting to be buried in Rome's Basilica of St. Mary Major, about three miles from the Vatican. The process to now choose a successor, known as a conclave, will begin 15 to 20 days after the pope's death.

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The Trump administration stands behind Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth amid stories of alleged dysfunction from within the department. And IRS whistleblower Gary Shapley, days after being elevated to the top job at the IRS, demoted from the post. What's going on there? All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update.

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The College of Cardinals, the most senior officials under the pope, convene in the Vatican to begin the highly secretive deliberations. Of the 252 cardinals, 135 are eligible to cast ballots. Only those under the age of 80 may vote. The new pope must secure a two-thirds majority. During the voting process, cardinals are cut off from the outside world.

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No phones, no internet, no newspapers, much like a sequestered jury. Deliberations take place in the Sistine Chapel, which will be swept for listening devices throughout the process. Secret ballots cast up to four times per day until a new pope is agreed on, the process typically taking several days.

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Pope Francis elected on the fifth ballot in just two days of voting, one of the shortest conclaves in history, the longest of the 20th century spanning five days in 1922, electing Pope Pius XI. Each day, the world's 1.2 billion Catholics will watch the Vatican closely, waiting for the only official update, a plume of smoke.

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The secret ballots are burned twice daily, first after the morning session, then again in the afternoon. Black smoke signals no decision has been reached, until finally, white smoke rises, announcing a new pope has been chosen. Within the hour, the new pope will select his papal name, then step on the balcony overlooking St. Peter's Square.

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The senior-most cardinal will announce to the crowd, Habemus Papum, Latin for, we have a pope. Coming up, new reporting alleges widespread dysfunction from within the Pentagon. The Trump administration calls this revenge from disgruntled former employees. And IRS whistleblower Gary Shapley promoted to acting IRS commissioner, but in half a scaramucci, then losing the post.

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Several new reports zeroing in on one of the media's favorite punching bags in the Trump administration, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth. On Monday, NPR reporting the White House is looking for a new secretary of defense. Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt responding on X, quote, the NPR story is total fake news based on one anonymous source who clearly had no idea what they are talking about.

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NPR not exactly known for its big Trump exclusives. NPR is reporting following a weekend media blitz targeting Secretary Hegseth. Here's CBS, MSNBC and CNN. Signalgate is back and the White House is pushing back against the fallout.

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The New York Times publishing a report reading, quote, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth shared detailed information about forthcoming strikes in Yemen on March 15th in a private signal group chat that included his wife, brother, and personal lawyer, according to four people with knowledge of the chat.

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As President Trump is settling into his new administration, one of the top Democrats in Congress aiming to undermine the Trump agenda is Democrat Senator Dick Durbin of Illinois. And according to our sponsor, the Electronic Payments Coalition, Senator Durbin has a new plan, a government takeover of your credit card.

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The Times acknowledges Mr. Hegseth's brother, Phil, and lawyer, Tim Parlatore, are employed by the Pentagon. The newly reported signal chat is separate from the original Signalgate incident first reported by The Atlantic in March, when reporter Jeffrey Goldberg claimed he was mistakenly added to a group chat discussing war plans against the Houthi rebel group in Yemen.

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That initial controversy setting off a firestorm in the media and among Democrats, both eager to pin the blame on a senior Trump official. President Trump admitted that including a reporter in a secure chat was not ideal, though dismissed it as a teachable moment.

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A review later determining Mr. Goldberg's number had been inadvertently saved under the wrong contact in National Security Advisor Mike Waltz's phone. The New York Times reporting that this second signal chat created by Secretary Hegseth was typically used for, quote, routine administrative or scheduling information. The Times alleging Mr. Hegseth shared sensitive military planning in that chat,

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Around the same time, similar information appeared in the group mistakenly reported on by The Atlantic. Chief Pentagon spokesman Sean Parnell releasing a statement reading in part, quote, "'Another day, another old story. Back from the dead. The Trump-hating media continues to be obsessed with destroying anyone committed to President Trump's agenda.

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There was no classified information in any signal chat, no matter how many ways they try to write the story.'" The Times later defending its reporting, pointing out it did not allege the use of classified information in this latest signal account, only sensitive information. President Trump on Monday standing firmly behind Secretary Hegseth from the White House.

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After record lows, military recruiting has rebounded. According to the Pentagon, after two years of only pulling in 75% of the soldiers needed, the Army is on pace to hit 115% of its annual recruiting goals. That's the biggest increase in 15 years. The Navy, too, only hit 88% of its goal last year. It is currently pacing at 105% of its goals.

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The Air Force, as well, says recruiting numbers are the best they have been in 15 years. Over the past week, however, several senior Pentagon officials placed on leave amid an investigation into leaks from within the Pentagon. Politico on Sunday, publishing a piece by former chief Pentagon spokesman John Elliott, who last week reportedly was forced to resign.

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Mr. Elliott writing in a left-wing publication, portraying himself as a MAGA supporter, writing, quote, even strong backers of the secretary like me must admit the last month has been a full-blown meltdown at the and it's becoming a real problem for the administration, end quote. Mr. Elliott predicting Secretary Hegseth will soon be out of a job.

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The president's eldest son, Don Jr., reacting to Mr. Elliott's politico piece, writing on X, quote, this guy is not America first. I've been hearing for years that he works his ass off to subvert my father's agenda. That ends today. He is officially exiled from our movement. Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt, Monday on Fox.

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Secretary Hegseth also directly challenging reporters himself on Monday from the White House.

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IRS whistleblower Gary Shapley now out as acting commissioner just four days after taking the job. However, there appears to be no performance issue. Mr. Shapley rising to national prominence in 2023, publicly accusing the DOJ of slow walking his IRS investigation into Hunter Biden. Treasury Secretary Scott Besson instead tapping Deputy Secretary of the Treasury Michael Falkinder to take the role.

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CNN citing three sources saying Mr. Shapley had the support of congressional Republicans and of Elon Musk, but had not been approved by Secretary Besant prior to his appointment by President Trump. Secretary Besant was out of the country when Shapley's appointment was announced.

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According to NBC, Besant was later granted authority by President Trump to reverse the move after learning Shapley had been appointed without the secretary's knowledge. Secretary Besant posting on X, quote, End quote.

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Secretary Besant saying Mr. Shapley and Joseph Ziegler, the other IRS whistleblower in the Hunter Biden tax probe, will both be placed in senior government roles following the conclusion of their investigation into alleged political interference in the Hunter Biden case. The media reporting on the story as another sign of great division between Elon Musk and other senior White House officials,

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Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt downplaying any conflict, releasing a statement saying, quote, It's no secret President Trump has put together a team of people who are incredibly passionate about the issues impacting our country. Disagreements are a normal part of any healthy policy process, and ultimately everyone knows they serve at the pleasure of President Trump.

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President Trump's nominee to permanently head this office, former Missouri Congressman Billy Long, remains stalled in the Senate with no hearing yet scheduled. That'll do it for your AM Update. I'm Megyn Kelly. Join me back here for The Megyn Kelly Show, live on SiriusXM Triumph Channel 111 at Moon East, on YouTube.com slash Megyn Kelly, and on all podcast platforms.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and the first full day of President Trump's second term. Do you feel relieved? I feel euphoric and also just like crazed. My brain, I feel like somebody put my head like in some sort of a blender. It's

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has tried to say, like, this is what Trump's going to do, and then Trump does his own thing. So, like, I'm not saying J.D. doesn't, you know, know what's going on, but when it comes to Trump, only Trump can speak for Trump. You know, like, trust Trump's word and... You know, even if he said to J.D. in the moment, I'm not going to pardon everyone.

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if you were somebody like me or most people, you had to walk maybe four or five, six long blocks in, I mean, it was like just over zero with biting windchill. And the ladies are in ball gowns, yours truly included. So we're freezing. So of course I did have my new fur coat. By the way, I was right. PETA did send me an email about it. And I'm going to tell you something. I kind of love PETA. I

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I'm going to like not I'm going to leave like the alleged violent offender still in prison. Maybe he changed his mind. And technically he didn't pardon everyone. He pardoned almost all of them. And then he commuted the sentences of the ones who were sort of in the worst category. Sorry. Keep going, Rich. I interrupted you.

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That's what I say to Doug in the mornings when we wake up and he pops right out of bed and he's ready to chit chat and get the day started. And I'm a much slower riser. It takes me a while to become alert. And, uh, that's what I say. Don't, don't, don't speak. Don't speak. Does anyone know that movie reference? Don't speak. Don't speak. I'll give you a clue. Diane Wiest says it.

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You can email me Megan at Megan Kelly.com. Um, okay. So the J six pardons, they are freaking out about, they're very upset, but I, I, it just feels like they've waived the right to really make this a thing after Joe Biden's preemptive pardons for his entire family for Fauci going back to 2014. Okay.

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Again, we talked about this on the show yesterday, but why does Fauci need a pardon going back to 2014? Um, I really think it has to do with that's the gain of function research back then and how deeply his hands were in it through Peter Daszak's group and this Wuhan lab. Anyway, the point is they've seeded and you see the list of presidential pardons.

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Have you guys seen this tweet that's going around? It's like Bill Clinton, you know, 800, George W. Bush, 400, Joe Biden, 8000. It's like, how can they complain, Rich?

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And the statement about how inconvenient and trying the process is, you know, it's like just having to go through the legal process after one is indicted, that's reason enough for me to do this. It's like, hello, preacher, you're the one causing this ailment in the Republican Party. I mean, tell it to Steve Bannon, you know, tell it to Donald Trump, tell it to Paul Manafort. We could keep going.

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There are a lot of people under Trump. who have been in the crosshairs of Biden's DOJ. And, you know, one person Biden did not, did not pardon is himself. So it's like, just be careful. Like you don't want to poke this bear too much. Um, here is Simone Sanders, who is a spokesperson. She used to be with Bernie Sanders and she went on to this white house and her take on MSNBC yesterday.

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I am somebody who eats animals and wears animal products, but I have a soft spot in my heart for these guys because they've been trying to convert me for many, many years, and they do it really nicely. They're not jerks about it. Anyway, I'll tell you about that, but I did wear my fur, and I have to tell you, it made a big difference.

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His private militia just got out of jail. What do you think, Charles?

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Yeah, I take your point. I mean, just as somebody who practiced law for a long time, it just feels odd to have a president then swoop in and undo all the things that, you know, it's supposed to be used sparingly to write a miscarriage of justice. And I actually do think on most of those J6 pardons, that is what happened.

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I just think that the administration, the Biden administration lost its mind over J6, you know, the insurrection stuff. and overcharged so many of these defendants and really did get too zealous.

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I mean, just treated them like they were dangerous felons when really they had meandered into the Capitol building, in many cases thinking it was okay, and failed to draw enough distinction between those people and the people who actually did assault cops. I'm with you. I don't really have a ton of sympathy for the people who assaulted the police officers.

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And I don't think that they deserved commutations. But I think the vast majority of these J6 defendants were political prisoners in a way, Rich, and that they were they were made to pay a price that the left was just frustrated they couldn't make Donald Trump pay.

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It really did keep me warm, at least on the areas that it was covering, but that doesn't include the bottom of your legs and your hands and your face and your head and so on. And I was with my family too. So we were all so cold and everybody was so cold. So then you get to the eventual destination and, you know, you go to an inaugural ball. There are thousands of people there, you guys, thousands.

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So I agree. I mean, I think everybody sitting on this panel is generally, well, not Charlie, but you and I, Richard, pro-law enforcement. Charlie doesn't want cops or the FBI or really laws.

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OK, so, yeah, so we are I think we're all generally pro cop and and doesn't matter whether it's a J6 cop or it's another cop, like don't want to see them getting assaulted by by bullies or criminals. But the thing that does give me some pause on this is how the left just.

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They completely let all of the cop assaulters on their side, Antifa, etc., get away with every single one for the better part of a year post-George Floyd, or at least half a year. And we all sat there stunned and horrified that there wouldn't be charges. 2,000 cops were injured at the hands of those post-George Floyd protesters. And the left was like, hmm.

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You broke the social contract, so you deserved it. So it is galling to see people who were, I don't know, I think in a lot of cases, temporarily insane. Post-COVID, post that year of George Floyd and so on, just weren't themselves. And I'm not excusing assaulting police officers. I'm just saying, like, if you're going to have empathy for anybody, it might be

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the people at that point in America who'd just been driven to a boiling point. And, and so, but they get nothing. They get the book thrown at them and there's absolutely nobody around to feel sorry for them or put their behavior in any sort of cultural societal context.

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The one we went to was in Union Station. And, um, We're like, how are they going to have a coat check for thousands of people? Well, that was a good question because it was full, but you know, shortly after they got started. So then everybody's in there wearing their coats over their ball gowns and there's tuxedos in it. That's slightly awkward too.

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Yeah. I feel like it's let's move forward. I will say this. Joe Biden pardoned how many criminals in the past month, including, you know, Glenn Youngkin is jumping up and down about this in Virginia, including two convicted cop killers. Where's the left jumping up and down about that?

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There were no zero cop killers on January 6th, even though the left is still trying to peddle the lie that there were there were no no cops were killed on January 6th. But they but they were killed in the past in Virginia and elsewhere. And at least two cop killers in Virginia were let out by Joe Biden without so much as an explanation. Where's that headline? New York Times.

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Here is Senator Cory Booker of New Jersey peddling the lie. You'll hear it at the tail end here again that cops died that day.

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Okay, that's not true. That is not true. Brian Sicknick died of natural causes. That is what the ME found. And the only person who died that day was Ashley Babbitt, who was shot by a police officer on Capitol Hill, who's five foot one. Okay, that's it. He's wrong. He said the people Joe Biden just pardoned didn't kill any police officers or attack. Yes, they did.

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As I just pointed out, Biden did pardon cop killers. Maybe he doesn't know about it because the media won't talk about it, Charles. But you and I both know Biden just pardoned a whole host of actually dangerous criminals. The left just doesn't care. I don't know if it's because they want those people back on the street, because it's a Democrat who did it, but they're much more obsessed with

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with cops being battered by J6 defendants, which again, we all agree is not a good thing, but there's a scale in the criminal law. And actually shooting dead two cops is by anyone's measure worse than having a fistfight with them on Capitol Hill.

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So then we just wound up dumping our coats in a big pile. And I was thinking, well, that seems irresponsible with my new fur, which Maureen Callahan told me to say was vintage and passed down from my mom. Anyway, we did it because I didn't want to carry it around. Nobody stole it, but it just... Okay. That's enough complaining. I needed to get it off my chest. We flew back early this morning.

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Let me give you some facts on the two guys and the crime I'm talking about that Biden just commuted the sentences of. All right. Without explanation, we don't know why these cop killers suddenly got a free pass out of jail. Again, the left won't tell you this. They're just going to focus on proud boys, proud boys.

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Glenn Young can call this to the public's attention, releasing the following statement just a day or two ago after Biden did it, saying, OK, he announced clemency of violent criminals, Farron Claiborne and Terrence Richardson, two men who admitted to being responsible for the brutal killing of Officer Alan Gibson, a Sussex County police officer. This is Youngkin.

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I'm beyond outraged and in utter disbelief that President Biden would announce clemency for Farron Claiborne and Terrence Richardson, two men who admitted admitted to being responsible to brutally killing Officer Alan Gibson, a hero and dedicated servant to the community, said Youngkin. What makes this even more unconscionable is the Biden U.S.

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attorney advised the White House not to commute these sentences as they are violent offenders. The pain and sorrow this clemency causes the Gibson family is unimaginable. To know that the men who took Officer Gibson's life will walk free is not just a grave injustice, it's a heartbreaking blow to those who continue to mourn his sacrifice.

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This is despicable, a grim day for justice and for the families who trust that our system will hold the guilty accountable. I've seen cop after cop on CNN talking about how sad they are that Trump did this with the J6 defendants. Where are the families of this cop?

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Why don't I see them on CNN talking about how they feel that their father's and husband's killer was just, or killers were just allowed out? And here's just a little color for you. It happened in 1998. The officer

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put on his bulletproof vest, said goodbye to his eight-year-old daughter, Chrisana, and Officer Gibson, the now decedent, found Terrence Richardson and Ferone Claiborne engaged in a drug deal behind an apartment building.

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I'm not going to lie. My daughter, Yardley, got very bad motion sickness. So there was vomit in my morning today. Then my son got a bloody nose in the car on the way, like the altitude and the extreme cold. Then Sarah, my hairstylist, who's also a friend and amazing... had a mishap with the airplane tray table, which hit her in the head as she was dealing with a migraine.

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They both attacked Officer Gibson, and Richardson disarmed him and fatally shot him in the stomach right below his bulletproof vest, leaving that eight-year-old girl without a dad. I'm sorry, but it's just really tough to get worked up about the Proud Boys guy or the guy even with the – what was it? The flagpole guy. when we don't, no one gives two craps about this.

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It's like, it's not even and it's not right. Okay. That's, that's J six. Let's move on. Um, gosh, there's a lot to go through. Let's talk about the border crackdown because it's already happening. It's in full swing and They already got their notifications on the CBP1 app. All appointments are canceled. You will not be coming in and seeking asylum here.

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President Trump has declared an emergency at the border, has declared an invasion, which gives him all sorts of powers. And now what I'm seeing on the media and on social media is videos like this one of migrants weeping in Juarez after they found out this had happened. Satu.

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Like that's what the next year, two, three, four are going to look like on most cable channels and broadcast news channels, Rich, because at heart, the elite news media doesn't want this to happen, even though the country overwhelmingly does.

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No, it's like the government offering a homeless person free stay at the Days Inn and they're like, no, I want to be at the Ritz. That's us, the United States. Well, sorry, you got to stay at the Days Inn, Guatemala or Mexico. You can't come to the Ritz Carlton on the taxpayer's dime. It's that's not no longer going to be a thing.

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So it's been that kind of a morning. I literally just got into my place at 1130 and smacked on some makeup. I still thankfully have my overnight hair from yesterday evening. So pulled it together. One final thing, the highlight of the trip for me, was all of you. I met so many MK show viewers and listeners and what a joy, what a true joy.

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Charles, happy to hear your thoughts on the immigration and what's happening. But I also want to get to Trump pulling us out of the Paris Climate Accords and what he's doing on the Green New Deal and the green energy policies that the left pushed through. Here's Trump pulling out of the Paris Climate Accord at Capital One Arena at that desk when he appeared yesterday, SOT1.

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Well, and he went on about China and just what a massive polluter they are. And like, what are we doing to ourselves here?

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He pulled out of the WHO, too. He pulled the United States. I don't know exactly know what that means, to be honest, Rich, like that we're no longer participating in the World Health Organization. I suppose it's the funding because he accompanied it by pointing out that we've got but a fraction of the population vaccinated. that China does, and yet we pay 90% of the cost versus what China pays.

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I may have botched that a little bit, but that's basically what Trump was saying, that why are we the pocketbook for all these world initiatives?

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You know, I have this image in my head of like who watches the show, who listens to the show. And I picture very savvy, smart, street smart, book smart, both people listening to the show. And in my mind, I've got to tell you, you're all very attractive. And I think I'm right. Everybody I met who listens to the show or watches the show, every single person was beautiful.

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It was amazing. But I love the climate initiatives that Trump is pushing through. I mentioned this a little yesterday, but... the wind, the unnecessary, wasteful, toxic, terrible ocean polluting, animal killing wind turbines are all getting a second look.

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Anything that required federal approval for a land lease, which almost all of them have is getting that aren't built already is getting reviewed. And there's a guy, um, in New Jersey, you guys know, Rich, you've been there. Um, there's a guy in New Jersey that we own property in New Jersey. And that's where we spend our summers.

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And this has been a very big deal for all people in New Jersey for a long time. They're going to move massive windmills along the coast, less than 10 miles from shore where you can see them. You can hear them. It's going to ruin, you know, just the serenity of the shore, which is one of the jewels of America. That is an absolute jewel, the Jersey shore. I realized I got a bad reputation.

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Thanks to Snooki and our friend, the situation who we love, but yeah, The vast majority of the Jersey Shore is white sand beaches and absolutely beautiful oceanfront. And why would we ruin it on this very ineffective, inefficient, toxic green energy program when we have... And drive the whales insane, Megan. And that's a real thing. That's a real thing.

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President Trump was mocked for that, but go look at Michael Schellenberger. He did a whole documentary on how these poor whales really are being driven insane. And Congressman Jeff Van Drew, he's from New Jersey, He actually tweeted out, stopping offshore wind remains our top priority.

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With President Trump back in office, we'll work together to end the Green News scam and shut down these disastrous offshore wind projects. And now, indeed, what's going to happen is they're all getting reviewed, all of these leases. That's just... Oh, that's just one of them, because he also mentioned yesterday our stoves, our vehicles. And hello, Charlie. He mentioned the light bulb.

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I'm like, this is wonderful. I appreciate the fact that such lovely people in every sense of the word are tuning in. And I feel like we all did this together. So notwithstanding the logistical challenges of D.C. in trying to protect the president and the cabinet and the Supreme Court on a weekend such as this, I had a wonderful time because of all of you.

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I want to tell you that we had a wonderful trip. Like, actually seeing Trump, you know, take the oath of office. I mean, I actually didn't witness it in person. I mean, via, you know, television like you guys. But being there for it, being at the rally, all this stuff was euphoric. I mean, it was just... It's the dawn of a new day and you could feel it in every way, shape and form.

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I hate the LED light bulbs. Hate. They are so unflattering. They are blinding. It is an FBI of making you talk kind of maybe that's more KGB kind of light. I'll tell you, I here in my studio, I asked them to give me a good light above the desk for when I just want to work here. I'm not on the air and they put one in and I almost never use it. I'm going to show you, let me see if I can capture it.

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What happens when I turn it on? It is, it truly is like an interrogation light. Yeah. Who wants to work like that? So I miss the incandescent bulb. It's a much nicer mood setter. It's like a warm amber glow, which you can crank up if you want. It is not a equivalent of bamboo shoots under the fingernails.

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Not to mention, we don't have enough charging stations. Just ask the people in California who are told not to use the ones they have because ones had burned. All right, Rich and Charlie, stay with us. Don't go away. These days, personal safety is not something that can be left to chance.

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Burna uses non-lethal rounds, tear gas, pepper, and kinetic projectiles to effectively stop a threat from a safe distance. There are so many people who want a non-lethal option in addition to a lethal option. Their biggest customers are gun owners. So it's not like they're anti-gun.

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It's maybe I want to be able to say in front of a jury that I used the non-lethal option before I resorted to the gun. Um, or there are people who like, I know a lot of women who don't want to have a gun in the house and they just don't want something that's got lethal force. And so this would be a great option for them because they're into self-defense, but they don't want a gun. All right.

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Okay, you got out early today? Yeah. Awesome. Okay, I got to do this now and I'll talk to you in an hour. All right, I love you, honey. How's my son Yates? Back early from school? He seems fine now. I guess there's news there. I did want to tell you this. Last night, okay, Charlie Cook is back with me. So is Rich Lowry from National Review.

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And all of you are the reason President Trump was sworn in as 47 on Monday. So thank you. OK, so we were busy. And as much as we started to complain about fatigue, we would just think about Donald Trump and we would stop. I don't... How does he do it? How does he do it? We're talking like I, I'm 25 years younger than Trump. Sarah, my hairstylist who I mentioned, she's 34. We were exhausted.

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At that ball that we went, we went to the starlight ball and it was like, I can't get over the social media of some of these people. Like they talk about like it being your prom. I don't understand how you get to be, you know, in your forties or fifties and still like treat this like it is like a debutante ball.

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You know, I understand taking fun snaps with your family, with your friends at the thing, or if you see like a public figure you like, but I'm sorry, this brings me to Lauren Sanchez again. She's going to be married to Jeff Bezos. She showed up at the swearing in ceremony with her breasts hanging out. You may have noticed. And she was at this thing.

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I didn't see her while there, but she posts all over social media. I think she thinks she's American royalty. look at this, look at this. It's like the dress is spread out exactly the right lighting. It's like, she's sort of in Amber glow. Like what can I tell you? Look at this, the closeup with the hands covering the mouth, perfectly curated, like, Oh, with the big lips that are also fake.

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Everything about this woman is just fake. It's all it's. So I'm, in a position to judge, I believe, because I am the opposite of this. You guys, the woman who helped me with my clothing, cause I had, I can't choose things like that by myself. Her name is Molly. She's always like, send me a picture, send me a picture. I literally have no pictures.

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I don't take any pictures of myself with these things. I will pose for pictures with others, but it occurred to me last night when, Right before we left, I should take like a picture with my family. So I took one standing next to my daughter, Yardley. I did post it on Insta and I blurred her face because I don't show my kids. But this is all I have. I have one. We're standing together.

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My daughter is several inches taller than I am now. She's only 13. This is it. This is all I got. Why? Because I'm a normal person who doesn't obsess over curating her image so everybody can admire me all the world around. I don't get how you can be engaged to the world's richest man or one of them and still be this needy of attention. Who would like to take that?

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So we're not going to see pictures of you like this, Charlie. You did not show up to the National Review cruise like this.

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Well, if you ever run for vice president, I'm sure the left will be happy to parade it all over the papers like they did of J.D. Vance at that one Yale party.

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Abigail Finan. We weren't sure we talked this morning, whether she's 37 or 38. What did we settle on abs? We think she's 38. Um, He energizes us under the table and not the bullshit kind of statement like that, like they say about Joe Biden. For real. I mean, he actually does. The man is tireless. How does a 78-year-old keep up the schedule he kept up yesterday? He, he's a true extrovert.

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Every woman alive sitting next to her would have been caught in that same Mark Zuckerberg pose where you're like, oh, my God, I see breasts at an inauguration. There they are. Put the girls away. It's only going to take about 50 minutes. Lauren, they can go inside for 50 minutes. You can bust them right back out after this. It was shocking. I will say, though.

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The Trump family, absolutely impeccable in their style. They showed up, Trump and Melania and most of the other Trumps, at all the balls, doing the dance. And it's always a sweet moment. You know, the only other inaugural ball I ever had.

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I laughed when somebody online said she looked like the Hamburglar. I thought that was actually very funny, but that's not true. I thought she looked like perfection. I can't get over how beautiful this woman is. But Trump did, Charlie, tell a funny story by his helicopter, about the helicopter at the Capitol after his speech. Take a listen here.

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She almost blew away. OK, but Charlie, without asking you, you can tell me how you feel about the hat. But whose opinion I really want is MBD. I feel like you'd have strong feelings on it. But I do think Trump has a point about what a great first lady she is. I she's my kind of first lady where she stays out of it. She doesn't think she's secretly the president.

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I, she's truly one of the most beautiful people on earth and just the picture of class. She's been, you could not have asked for more from a first lady and I'm sure she's going to be just as great this time. Um, Trump and Vance showed up at among other places, the commander in chief ball and thought it might be fun to do the YMCA dance with swords, which is worth looking at. Here it is.

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He is energized by socialization, by attention, by interacting with other people. And maybe it's just that like at heart, I'm more of an introvert. So I find it more exhausting, but He, I'm in awe of how he handles this demanding schedule. He's cut to be president. He's cut out of the perfect cloth for the job. So he yesterday got right to work as he said he would.

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It's just video. Why do we don't, why didn't we have the sound here? There he is. We're doing his dance. They whipped out swords. You can see J.D. Vance like, what do I do? Do I pick up a sword? Do I do a sword fight? The president's really adding something to it, you guys. Look at the hips. He went a little Elvis there.

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He doesn't normally put the full wiggle into it, but I think he was feeling pretty good, you guys. I think this is Trump at what's his happiest.

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It's spectacular. We saw them at... We went to Charlie Kirk's Turning Points Ball on Sunday night, pre-inauguration, which was very fun. Met so many great people there. Absolutely loved them. And the YMCA was performed by the Village People. And it was... I can't believe... how much energy those guys put into the performance. It's like they lean in.

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And I mean, especially the guy who plays the Native American character with a full headdress. And what I didn't understand when I was watching him is that that iconic, now iconic photo where he's leaning back and President Trump is laughing is that actually he was doing a double Nazi salute. And And really, we never should have celebrated that. It wasn't just the one.

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It was two, two Nazi salutes, just like Elon Musk. Is this the stupidest controversy you've seen in a while? Like, I'll show the audience what he did. It's a lie that the left is telling about him. He said something really sweet to the Capital One Arena. And these just crazy loons tried to turn him into a Nazi because of it. Here it is.

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Well, that has the left all a Twitter. Hold on. I want to get I want to get some of the examples here. Here is. OK, so CNN first weighed in trying to make this a thing. Let's play that.

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Oh, my God. OK, so, of course, they try to make it a thing. Twitter starts going nuts to the point where. The ADL, the Anti-Defamation League, which is very, I'm sorry, they're like the Southern Poverty Law Center. They just, I don't put any weight in what these guys say anymore. But they, even they, they're typically repeating the leftist line.

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We talked about this on the show a bit yesterday. He signed dozens of executive orders throughout the day. He started at that little desk at the Capital One Arena and he kept it going. late into the evening, sitting in the Oval Office, like taking questions like you were just over for tea. You know, he's just like, yeah, fire him at me.

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Even they came out and defended Elon, leading to AOC's tweet as follows. In response to the ADL, just to be clear, you are defending a Heil Hitler salute that was performed and repeated for emphasis and clarity. People can officially stop listening to you as any sort of reputable source of information now. Well, we're kind of on the same page there. You work for them.

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Thank you for making that crystal clear to all. And you had others like Jerry Nadler trying to, you know, just espouse the seriousness of this moment, how deeply disappointing it was, Rich. They're actually trying to run with this.

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And is literally saying, Charles, I give my heart to you. He's touching his heart and then hand out to the audience while he's saying, I give my heart to you. And still we get, here's the Nadler tweet. I never imagined we would see the day when what appears to be a Heil Hitler salute would be made behind the presidential seal.

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This abhorrent gesture has no place in our society and belongs in the darkest chapters of human history. I urge all my colleagues to unite in condemning this hateful gesture for what it is, anti-Semitism. by Elon Musk, same man who toured Auschwitz recently, who went over to Israel with Ben Shapiro to see firsthand what Hamas did to the suffering Israelis.

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Like, that's who's an anti-Semite now, because while saying, I give my heart to you, he made that gesture.

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The part we'll get to it, but Peter Doocy firing questions to him about whether Joe Biden left him, you know, the note that they all leave one another, the presidents in their resolute desk. It's so classic Trump. It's casual. It's Off the cuff, yeah, sure, I'll tell you all the presidential secrets. Sure. But typical Trump, he knew exactly where to draw the line.

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They're not. I've said before, they're not changing. I don't expect change. They're going to go right back to their Trump derangement syndrome and further decrease and erode their credibility. Here we did find the Bill Kristol tweet saying to Caroline Levitt, who's the new press secretary. Elon Musk has an office in the White House. Does the president support his salute yesterday, in quotes?

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Has anyone at the White House asked Musk what he meant by it or suggested he clarify what he meant? Is it fine if other White House staffers offer such salutes? And Elon just tweeted out, not in response to Crystal, but just in general, frankly, they need better tricks, better dirty tricks. The everyone is Hitler attack is so tired. Rich, how true is that?

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He actually didn't divulge all the secrets, but he had some fun with it. It's just you can tell there's a new energy in town. You can tell. Things are changing immediately and there'll be controversies and already there aren't. I don't care. I've got to tell you, I don't care.

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We just saw Hitler sit down with Barack Obama and they were kidding each other like old college chums. Hitler glad handed with Bill Clinton. Hitler. I mean, they just tried to pull this unsuccessfully with Trump. And no sooner does he get sworn in than they try it with Elon.

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That's an interesting question. Like, who... who really believes, does Bill Kristol really believe that Elon did a Heil Hitler salute? Or does he just see an opportunity to stir up hatred against an administration that he hates and tried very hard to defeat? I don't know. I do think that you can get so crazed with TDS that you can no longer be an affair arbiter or an honest broker of information.

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That's the distinction I was trying to make about NR, which you don't hate Trump, but you guys, you know, Charlie's not a huge Trump fan. I think it's fair to say, but such a fair journalist commentator, you know, would never play fast and loose with the facts just to hurt Trump. That's you're still, you're an honest broker, Bill Kristol. I don't know. He's so crazy. It almost doesn't matter.

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Um, here's Rachel Maddow with her like typical sanctimonious, like I'm sorry to have to bring you this, but here's the latest of these terrible people. This is what happened with these disgusting opponents. Watch. Here she is.

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I'm still busy being euphoric over the fact that he's in there, that he's going to close the border and that he knows the difference between a man and a woman. We did find out more details on... That beautiful executive order on women yesterday, I'm going to say on biological sex, because you've heard us talk about this, but gender is not a thing. Gender is made up. Biological sex is real.

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That happened today. Who among us knows what's in the hearts of men? Who among us does know, Rachel? Maybe she should ask Elizabeth Warren. Here she was at her DNC 2016 speech.

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There's an armbar. Oh, look at this. She put the palm down. The palm is down. Who among us knows what's in the hearts of women? Rich Lowry.

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Okay, so it's not just Elizabeth Warren. Kamala Harris, this is her South Carolina Democratic Party event in September of 2024. Watch.

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Oh, there it is. Palm down, Nazi salute. And then you've got lives of TikTok that put together a screen grab of a bunch of Democrats doing the Roman salute, or are they? I mean, how can we know what's in the hearts of men and women? Can we put it on the board? Hold on. We'll see it in one second. Here we go. Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama are the president of the United States.

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Is that Kamala at the bottom? My eyes can't quite see. Yes, that's Kamala. Three top Democrats. A Harris, a Clinton, and an Obama all with... The Roman salute, which, by the way, Rachel Maddow did not once but twice on her show and imitating what what what Elon allegedly did. And she did it wrong. She didn't do what Elon did, touching his heart.

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And, you know, she did an actual Heil Hitler situation thinking that's fine. OK. misrepresentative. And by the way, CNN should be really careful because they just had to pay $5 million plus in a settlement of a defamation lawsuit that they just were found liable in a jury trial for. So you should really be careful about throwing around the Heil Hitler accusations, but they won't be.

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Just for good measure before we close this segment out, here is Democratic Senator from Connecticut. He's daring me. He's daring me. I don't actually want to run for Senate. I love my current job, but he's daring me to take his seat. Here he goes.

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She's a crusher. She's so great. I love her. And by the way, he is so lucky that there is a privilege for what you say in the conduct of your legislative abilities and performance, because that is defamation. He said flat out that he did two Heil Hitler salutes, which he did not. So if he said that not inside the Senate building, he would be sued for defamation.

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And that's really what this order says. I didn't know... Who drafted it? Because I got to read the whole thing today. It's perfection, okay? You know we talk about this issue on the show a lot. It's perfection. In my wildest dreams, I couldn't have drafted something this beautiful on this issue.

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And by the way, there was... Who was it? Oh, it was... It was the other. It was Dick Blumenthal of Connecticut, the other Democratic senator from Connecticut, I believe. I'm trying to think it was either him or Tim Kaine.

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It was Tim Kaine who said the other day that Pete Hegseth, that there was a long history of Pete Hegseth's problems with women and alcohol and stated it as an affirmative fact as opposed to the anonymous reports which have been unsubstantiated. Same thing. Now, I actually went and did some homework on it to figure out whether you could sue a senator for a tweet. And the answer is maybe.

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It's not as clear as when they do it in their capacity on Capitol Hill. There is some case law saying even when they're off Capitol Hill, if the tweet is in support of the legislative agenda, they have some protection, but it's less clear. So the senators ought to be very careful about pushing this nonsense around because we're Who among us really knows what's in someone's heart, guys? You know?

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I don't know. I think the thing is... We talked about this a bit on the show yesterday. We won a whole election, so we don't have to do this nonsense anymore. We're done. The American people are done. We're very, very over the Hitler, the everyone's a closet racist, everyone's a closet sexist. And like, it's almost become just kind of sad now.

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You know, I don't think Elon Musk sweated one bead of sweat over this. I don't think most people would at this point anymore, Charles. I just feel like We're over it and the American people are over it and they know that.

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And it turns out, and I tweeted out this morning who wrote this, and it turns out it was Mae Mailman of the Independent Women's Forum who's been on this show. She came on after Title IX on that barn burner of a show that we dropped that we had very fierce women who have been standing up for women's rights, and she was one of them. This is a no bullshit attorney who works for IWF.

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They don't realize the fever broke. America woke up from its crazy ass 10 years that went extra crazy. It's supercharged crazy post George Floyd. And we're done. We're over it. Get on board with reverting to being normal Americans who don't cast these kinds of aspersions on their fellow citizens at every comment or get left behind. It's it's up to them.

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All right, we're going to take a quick break. When we come back, we've got to talk about what Trump did in the Oval Office last night and that amazing exchange with Peter Doocy, which is just stunning and really fun to watch. Okay, stand by. Rich and Charlie, stick with us. Life is busy, and finding time to shop for clothes can feel impossible.

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Dailylook.com promo code M-E-G-Y-N. Okay, so while we've been talking, something extraordinary happened. Trump went to the National Prayer Service. Hold on, let me get this up because my team just texted it to me. He goes to the National Prayer Service in Washington, D.C. He's there with, I think, the First Lady. I saw J.D. Vance. And this... Bishop of Washington.

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She's at the top of it. And she wrote this thing along with beautiful editing, I'm told, by Stephen Miller. Remember? White supremacist Stephen Miller, who's been responsible for a lot of the southern border policies under Trump one and now under Trump two. That guy is a genius. He's a genius. I saw him on a Sunday. He spoke before me at that Trump rally.

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It's a woman in the Episcopal Church. Marianne Edgar Buddy decides to take the opportunity with the newly sworn in president to lecture him on, I believe, LGBTQ rights and how he really needs to soften and illegal immigrants. Listen to this woman.

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Oh, my God. Trump, just at the end there, Trump looks off to the side. You can see him like, all right, just FYI, this woman, according to the Daily Mail, has a long history of criticizing Trump in his first term, especially after he stood next to the Episcopal Church holding the Bible after clearing protesters out of Lafayette Square.

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In an interview with CBS the next morning, Buddy slammed Trump's actions, calling them antithetical to the teachings of Jesus and everything that we stand for as a church. She also condemned Trump while attending an outdoor Black Lives Matter protest in 2020, wearing a mask during the coronavirus pandemic. Quote, I've given up speaking to President Trump. We need to replace President Trump.

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I'm sorry, but who told President Trump he should go here? This is a failure of the team. With all due respect, he should not have been placed in the position of having to sit there and be lectured to by this woman who clearly hates him, Rich.

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which is not a thing. That is a made up thing. Those are kids who are dealing with most likely their parents' mental illness, but in some cases, their own societal struggles who need therapy from someone who's objective and not trying to push them out of their biological sex, which is not possible. Charles, I can't believe this. I mean, I can believe it, but it's just so annoying.

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And to Rich's point, I told my audience like a year or so ago, less than, Um, I've been going through this process to try to get my first marriage annulled in the Catholic church. And it created a bit of a crisis of faith for me because, you know, you got to deal with the middleman and why am I dealing with the middleman?

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And why do the middlemen have all this say over me and my relationship with God? And, uh, it led me to have a Woody Allen. It's a good insight. Is that what you said?

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Yeah, it is a Protestant. So it led me to go on like that journey. I think, I can't remember which movie it was of Woody Allen's where he goes and he tries out all these religions, but I did kind of dip a toe in Episcopalian to see if I could feel better when I was over there. It was a hard, no, the one...

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And he does not get enough credit for being, as I called him publicly, sort of the magic behind the man. There's Trump who's got ideas and goals and he's got, you know, the resolution to do something. But then he needs policy guys to actually write it up. and enact it. That's Stephen Miller, among other very talented people.

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The one service I showed up for was a female pastor, and it was all about transgender children and how we have to accept transgenderism and we have to be great with transgender kids. I'm like, I'm out. I left mid-sermon, and sure enough... How did he get put in this position?

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By the way, it's so false. It's like, you're so worried about the children. Where are you in standing up for girls in sports, which the vast majority of the American population wants to do now? It was President Trump who signed that EO protecting them yesterday. It's President Trump who will restore young men's due process rights on college campuses. What about those children?

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Does she care about them? Does she care about the young girls who are tied to rape trees along the southern border by these gangs who bring people across? Is that because cracking down at the border will save them? But I didn't hear that in her, quote, sermon. That was the least godly little bit of advice I've heard in a while. And I'm in news, so it's saying something.

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All right, we've got to get to Peter Doocy. He goes to the Oval Office when Trump is just like, you know, freestyling and signing executive orders and taking questions from the press and listen to this exchange in SOT4.

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So tip of the hat to May, to Stephen, and anybody else who worked on that thing of beauty. Okay. Today, Trump is attending a national prayer service. That's before he meets with Republican congressional leaders and makes a major announcement about infrastructure at 4 p.m. Eastern from the White House. That's interesting. I don't think we were expecting a big infrastructure announcement.

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You know what's so interesting about that, Rich, is it does show that Trump, it's such a great example of how he breaks the norms, you know, part one of that exchange, but how he knows where to draw the line. He did not actually read the letter on camera to Peter Doocy. And also when asked what they talked about privately earlier in the day, He went generic. We talked about unification.

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He respected the relationship and the confidentiality, even though he was very irritated about those pardons and was saying, I didn't know he did that.

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Completely. I've got to ask you this off topic, but in the news, Vivek Ramaswamy is the first victim of Doge. The department he was co-heading with Elon. They're so good at creating government efficiencies, they got rid of the second partner in charge of finding them.

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He's officially out now, Charlie, and Politico reporting that it was because he got on people's nerves everywhere in Mar-a-Lago, they say, and burned bridges. That's what they said. They burned a bunch of bridges and he finally burned Elon. And it doesn't seem to be wrong because now it's appeared in the Washington Post and Politico and elsewhere, CBS, that Elon had enough of a fake.

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And so they turfed him and they're citing, you know, Trump allies with this and nobody's pushing back and nobody's saying it's fake news. So he's out. Are you surprised? And what do you make of it?

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So what's he going to say? Can't wait to find out. So much to get to. We were brilliant on our own show, if I do say so myself. It wasn't me. It was my booker and my executive producer and my producers. But we booked an NR day for today, the first full day of the Trump term, which is ideal because you need super smart people who are politically savvy and know bullshit.

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big personalities in there. I mean, I think Vivek, we'll see whether he will be attractive to the people of Ohio as their next potential governor. It's the same group that elected Mike DeWine, who refused to appoint Vivek to J.D. Vance's Senate seat. But it's a very red state now. It's very pro MAGA. But how hard will Trump campaign for him? I don't I'm not sure if these reports are true.

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Trump was very nice to him at the inauguration. He had a good seat in there. But it does appear that there's been some sort of a fracture between Vivek and Elon. And Elon is now running Doge without Vivek. They did report that the last straw was reportedly that long tweet storm or tweet incident.

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That's just a long tweet that he pushed out a couple of weeks ago talking about how, yeah, mediocrity in the American culture and how we need less, less like prom Kings and football stars and more. Yeah. I don't know. I like Vivek, but no, wrong. And it didn't go over well with Cormaga either, which doesn't like that kind of commentary. It's more nuanced than that.

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I'm not being fair to Vivek, but in any event, this was reportedly the straw that broke the camel's back. We'll see. I mean, I like I like the I like the efficiencies that they're finding. And I guess we'll find out together how many people go. Trump's already firing people by tweet, like explicitly saying you're fired. Holdovers from the last administration. And it's joyful to watch.

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All of it is joyful to watch. Guys, thank you. Thank you both. Thank you. They delivered just like I knew they would. Such smart, thoughtful guys, aren't they? And I really like their commentary on the hat. I thought that was our highlight today. Here's what we're going to do. I am going to update a story I mentioned in my comments at the Trump rally on Sunday.

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I got an extraordinary response from someone I mentioned, and you'll hear it in just a minute. Don't go away. And we're back tomorrow with Nicole Shanahan. I'm Megyn Kelly, host of The Megyn Kelly Show on Sirius XM. It's your home for open, honest, and provocative conversations with the most interesting and important political, legal, and cultural figures today.

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Before we go, an update on a woman I mentioned during my remarks at the Trump rally the day before his inauguration this past Sunday. Her name is Jody Shaw.

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And I mentioned her for a reason, because in this whole cultural war we've been engaged in, you know, the left trying to force racist DEI policies on us at the federal government level, at the corporate level, in our universities, in the K through 12 system. It's just everywhere.

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We've been winning, but it's thanks to soldiers, citizen soldiers, if you will, like Jody Shaw, who in many cases before the loudmouths among us found the temerity to stand up and say, no, and to say, stop this. So Jody Shaw worked in an administrative capacity at Smith College and she was an alum of Smith and she,

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One day, she didn't have a powerful position there, but one day she just reached the breaking point with the over the, I mean, Smith is as leftist as they come. Not only is it an elite liberal institution, it's reportedly, I think 50% lesbian. And so this is an institution that supposedly prides itself on tolerance and so on.

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But as you know, like most of those institutions, they get crazy on issues that are so-called woke issues. So that's what was happening at Smith. She one night took to Facebook and in a video went up there and let him have it in very measured but clear terms. Here's a sample.

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So after she did that, It became a national story because it was so compelling. I mean, if you could still go back and be very, very compelled watching this whole thing, you really kind of can't tear yourself away. She says everything so clearly and so well. And after that happened, Smith, she accused them of making her life a living hell there. They investigated her.

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They came up with protectual things she allegedly did wrong, which were obviously thin and unsupported. all of which we explored on this show when I had her on very early in our existence as she became sort of a hero to me as somebody else who was speaking out about this. But she was so much like she was brave. I had a show and I had an established sort of, well, bank account and other things.

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Jodi didn't. She took a great risk in doing this and she needed her job.

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On October 27th, 2020 was when you released your video, your first Facebook video, calling attention to all of this, the problems there. What made you do that? What was the final straw there?

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Okay. So you've got a child. You've got to support your child. You've got to support yourself. You did not have a tenured position. So if they fire you, what's the plan to pay the bills?

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Why do this? Why put your neck on the chopping block and was it worth it?

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Well, she ultimately was forced out of Smith College and they engaged in a litigation, I believed at the last I heard, where she was trying to fight back and stand up for herself, but she didn't know what was going to happen to her. And that's a unique set of skills and getting bounced out of a college for being not woke doesn't exactly open doors for you at other elite institutions like Smith.

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So poor Jodi was in a very tough position. And I've never stopped thinking about her. I've never stopped thinking about Andrew Gutman, who I mentioned in those remarks. Paul Rossi was another one I meant to mention. These guys take real risks in being one of the first to stand up to their institutions. He's a guy who was a teacher who stood up saying, stop doing this. I just want to teach math.

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Stop doing this. And I reached out to Jodi before I gave those comments to see if she wanted to just give me an update on her life. I was curious about her. I didn't hear back from her until today. And she wrote me such a beautiful response. I really wanted to share it with you. I texted her and said, may I? And she said it would be okay. So I'm going to read you what she wrote. Here it is.

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Hi, Megan. Thanks for reaching out and thanks for the shout out and kind words spoken at the pre-inauguration gathering. I guess I should play those remarks for you before I get to the response. Here's that piece of our story. People like Jody Shaw. You probably don't know that name. But Jody Shaw was an administrative worker at Smith College. She didn't make a lot of money, single mom, two kids.

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And in late 2020, early 2021, she had had it with the DEI nonsense at Smith. So she made a Facebook video and she posted it. And little Jody Smith, who is sweet and quiet and not one to shake the tree, said, I don't want to be forced to talk about my race at work anymore. I don't want to be told that I have implicit bias because I'm white. I don't want to have to enforce segregated dorms.

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Please stop making me do this. And Smith unleashed holy hell on her. Smith, this super tolerant college, OK. made it, she alleged later, untenable for her to stay. She got forced out of her job. And I'm honestly not sure whether Jodi's fully recovered. So she got hurt. And she got hurt for all of you, and for us, and for the rest who are at Smith. She's a hero.

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Okay, so she says, thank you for the shout out and the kind words there. What truly brought a tear to my eye was, I don't know if she has recovered. It was a hard thing to go through, not just Smith, but also the highly public aftermath. I am still trying to rebuild. It's a hard loss. Identity, tribe, sense of self, etc.

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Also still contending with shame and all the other difficult emotions that accompany a highly public humiliation. I think lots of other people feel the same. After he won the election, Trump said, We need to heal. Indeed. We are a wounded and deeply divided populace, and healing and reconciliation is in order if we are to be strong again.

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I am on a spiritual path now, still trying to stitch myself back together. I'm writing a book, an attempt to explain what happened, why I did it, and how I'm trying to move forward. Feel the need to explain it all to the people who suffered the most as a result of my actions, my kids, my siblings, and most of all, myself, just trying to make sense of it still.

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I am very happy about Trump's victory, as I am sure you are too. I hope you and your family are well. What a beautiful person. What a beautiful woman. the way she says it, right? She's trying to stitch herself back together. That makes so much sense to me. Still trying to stitch myself back together. What these people did to us, our country and individuals like Jodi was morally wrong.

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I would go so far as to say it was evil. And it's still ongoing. As I said in those remarks, we've won many battles and we are winning the war, but it is not over. We haven't won it overall. And that's why you still have this pernicious ideology being shoved down the throats of college students coast to coast.

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Good luck finding one that's not openly conservative, which is only a handful, that's not doing this. And that's the academy that she came out of. The brutal scars that are left by this sort of indoctrination, these sort of really harmful messages about you being an oppressor who's hurting others just by virtue of your skin color, you being evil and bad just by virtue of the melanin you have.

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Like, it's hard to recover from just that. Never mind what happens to you if you become the victim of a woke mob. You know, somebody like Brett Weinstein. He's changed forever as a result of what they did to him on Evergreen College. The shouting down, the public humiliation and shaming. Now, did he rise again better than ever? Absolutely. And I certainly hope that's what happens to Jody Shaw.

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I would like to submit that the same happened to me and that I've risen. come back better than I, than I was before, but it's not a guarantee. And, you know, I feel like I'm one of the lucky ones and I don't know if Jodi considers herself one of the lucky ones. It sounds like she's still suffering and it sounds like her kids are

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really had a lot to reconcile with because, you know, they too are probably living in that circle and receive very negative messages about their mom and maybe have their own questions.

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So I just, as we celebrate Trump's victory, our victory, it's like remembering the fallen, you know, when you actually do win a war, it's like not forgetting the blood and treasure that was spent to get to this point. And honestly, to hold those people accountable.

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It's not, I know people are like, you know, Unify and even Jodi mentions that, but like, I'm not ready to forgive the people who did this. I'm really not. I know, maybe it's, well, it's definitely not consistent with my, the Catholic Church's teachings.

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Wait, and I just want to say one more thing. Now truly is the time to get an NR Plus membership, but here's why. Because in the era of Trump, there's nonsense everywhere in all publications. The Trump derangement syndrome is real. The left is already going nuts. Elon Musk is a Nazi. That's their latest narrative. And you can't trust them. You know that.

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Somebody was saying after my episode with Billy Bush, I really should forgive Andy Lack, that that's, you know, that's what we believe as Catholics. And you become bitter if you hold onto the forgiveness, you know, it corrodes yourself, not the other. I guess it hasn't made me bitter. I'm actually really enjoying the loathing I have for him. I don't want to give it up.

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And I just feel like they're still doing it to us. So I do see them more as enemies who must be defeated as opposed to people with whom I have any intention of unifying. They must be brought to heel. And our new leader is the anti-wokester-in-chief who was on to this mission before the rest of us. So I have total faith in his commitment to the mission and ability to carry it out.

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But he needs help. The best generals in the world, whether it was George Washington or Patton, needed troops. And that's where all of us come in. Don't let Jody or others stand alone. You know, there's power in numbers. And while our force is riding high right now and feeling euphoric, we can't get overconfident. This stuff is everywhere still. The nation submitted to it.

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And on the LGBTQ trans stuff, they sneaked it into laws state by state. So we have massive legislative battles to fight, too. It's going to require donations to the right groups like Independent Women's Forum, like Alliance Defending Freedom. And it's going to require patience and resolve to fight, which I know the people listening to this show have. So much love to you all.

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Much love to you, Jodi. And 100%, you are welcome to come here when you write that book and update our audience on how it's going. See you guys tomorrow. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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Now, NR has its differences with Trump and has not been shy about them, including you two guys. But they're actual Republicans, they're actual conservatives, and they probably love 90 percent of the Trump agenda. So you will find truly fair coverage at National Review. You may occasionally, if you're a diehard Trumper, be ticked off that somebody says something not that great about Trump.

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You can handle it. You're grownups. We're not the left. We don't cry in our soup over those things. But you'll get actual coverage of real facts. They don't deviate from facts just because they may have a beef occasionally with Trump, which is not a constant thing with these guys. So anyway, that's from the heart. I'm not just saying it because you guys are here. I've said it many times.

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It's so challenging to get from A to B, whether it was, you know, the arena where, you know, I was speaking for Trump. So you think, you know, it'd be a little easier to get in, but At turn after turn after turn, you had Secret Service at every block and then the next block and the next block and then you just try to get through and try to get through and try to get through.

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The whole system needs to be redone. We like I know it's pursuant to the Constitution. We have to do this thing on January 20th. June 20th would be so much more pleasant. May in D.C. is absolutely gorgeous. I mean, we wouldn't have wanted Joe Biden to stick around an extra few months so that there's that problem. It doesn't solve anything by moving it to November, you know.

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the 6th or whatever the day after the election, because it's still going to be cold then. But January 20th in DC is not great. And I don't know what the solution is other than finding some arena that holds a couple of 500,000 people where we can all join together. Charles, what did you make of the past three days?

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And now those are the same people who probably associate with the progressive staffers on Capitol Hill who wrote that letter demanding a 32 hour work week. And, you know, 40 hours was just too much for them. And even they got shamed so much, even by fellow Democrats, that they had to withdraw their stupid letter.

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And civilians, you know, people who are not speaking, times that by 100. And then at the balls, you know, you'd go, but you couldn't get anywhere near the actual ball unless you happened to be at the right hotel and got on the right shuttle bus and then whatever.

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It's so funny that neither one of those was like a huge headline, you know, like the media totally ignored this brand new amendment, the constitutional amendment that Biden just declared by tweet. And I wouldn't even say that Trump with a birthright citizenship is the lead in most papers. It's like.

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The Constitution can't be amended by presidential fiat and it can't be undone by presidential fiat either. Trump and I actually, you know, we got into this when I interviewed him about a year ago. Like, it's really tough to undo birthright citizenship. But he's at least got an argument, unlike Biden.

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You know, Rich, the argument on birthright citizenship is that subject to the jurist and born in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. And that's what Even some very smart legal scholars will say that actually is an opening and it's worth having the argument.

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A coordinated message claimed conservative media was deceptively editing clips. In major areas where people get their news, this lie or this concept about Joe Biden is being validated. Fake videos of President Biden that are being referred to as cheap fakes.

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New questions swirling following President Joe Biden's cancer diagnosis and what it may reveal about his health while in office. The 82-year-old former president diagnosed with advanced prostate cancer that has metastasized to the bone. The severity and late-stage nature of the disease has stunned many, with medical experts pointing out that this type of cancer typically takes years to develop.

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On Sunday night, urologist Dr. David Schusterman on NewsNation casting doubt on the idea that this diagnosis came out of nowhere.

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Top medical experts casting doubt on the timeline of President Biden's cancer diagnosis.

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Dr. Zeke Emanuel, a respected oncologist and one of the authors of Obamacare, going further on Morning Joe.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Tuesday, May 20th, 2025, and this is your AM Update.

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Mr. Biden's personal office claims the cancer was only discovered last week after doctors found a prostate nodule. They also claim in a statement that the cancer, quote, appears to be hormone sensitive, which allows for effective management, end quote. Dr. David Samadi, a leading prostate cancer surgeon, telling the Megyn Kelly Show on Monday, that timeline does not add up.

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So you're saying that jumped out at you, the fact that they're stating in their statement, they say... the cancer appears to be hormone sensitive, which allows for effective management. You're saying, how would they know that this soon?

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Are MAGA baby bank accounts on the way? Week two of the Sean Diddy Combs criminal trial kicks off with more details surrounding the Intercontinental Hotel incident caught on security camera. And FBI heads Kash Patel and Dan Bongino weigh in on Jeffrey Epstein's cause of death. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update. I wanna tell you about Patriot Mobile.

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All of this comes as a new book hits shelves today, Original Sin, co-authored by Axios reporter Alex Thompson and CNN's Jake Tapper, who will be on The Megyn Kelly Show later today. The book details efforts inside the Biden White House to conceal the president's cognitive decline while in office.

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Those efforts included threatening or retaliating against reporters who dared to question the president's mental fitness. No sooner did the news of cancer break on Sunday than some began arguing questions about Mr. Biden's mental acuity should again now be set aside.

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Democratic strategist David Axelrod, for one, Republican Meghan McCain, too, calling for discussions around Biden's health cover-up and related books to stop to give peace to the Biden family. House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries also using the diagnosis to discourage further discussion of Mr. Biden's decline and of its coverup.

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The MK show takes a very, very different view. There is good reason to distrust Mr. Biden when it comes to disclosures about his health and well-being. There is now a clear possibility that he had terminal cancer while president and was seeking a second term. That story must be investigated. And President Trump thinks so, too, from the White House on Monday.

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Coming up, Trump's tax plan for babies. MAGA baby savings accounts officially part of the GOP's sweeping new tax proposal. More witnesses providing insight into the dark world of Sean Diddy Combs in week two of the Rappers' criminal trials. Plus, what do top FBI officials really think about Epstein's death? Kash Patel and Dan Bongino speak out.

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As President Trump is settling into his new administration, one of the top Democrats in Congress aiming to undermine the Trump agenda is Democrat Senator Dick Durbin of Illinois. And according to our sponsor, the Electronic Payments Coalition, Senator Durbin has a new plan, a government takeover of your credit card.

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On Monday, Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt confirming MAGA baby savings accounts will be included as a provision in the so-called Big Beautiful Tax Bill, which cleared the House Budget Committee late Sunday night. The GOP's tax bill creating a new type of savings account for children and launching a pilot program for newborns.

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According to a review of the bill released by the House Ways and Means Committee, money accounts for growth and advancement, or MAGA accounts, will be available to parents of any U.S. citizen child under the age of eight years old, as long as one parent holds a valid Social Security number.

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Under a pilot program for newborns, the federal government will contribute up to $1,000 to MAGA accounts for any U.S. citizen born between January 2025 and 2028. Under this program, both parents must have a valid Social Security number.

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Variations of baby savings accounts proposed by lawmakers across the political spectrum. Hillary Clinton once floated a version of the idea during her 2007 campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination. New Jersey Senator Cory Booker proposed baby bonds as part of his 2020 presidential platform. Speaker Mike Johnson racing to pass the GOP's one big beautiful bill before Memorial Day.

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The bill cleared the Budget Committee Sunday night by a single vote, with four Republicans voting present to keep negotiations alive. Fiscal hawks want deeper spending cuts to offset Trump-backed tax breaks, like eliminating taxes on tips and overtime. A full House vote expected this week.

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If it passes, the bill heads over to the Senate under the reconciliation process, meaning Republicans can bypass a filibuster, passing it with a simple majority if they get one. Week two of the Sean Diddy Combs criminal trial underway in New York.

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Dawn Richard, former member of music group Danity Kane, formed by Mr. Combs, continuing her testimony on Monday, describing frequent violence against star witness Cassie Ventura, saying, quote, he would punch her, choke her, drag her, slap her in the mouth. I saw him kick her, punch her in the stomach. Ms.

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Richard telling prosecutors some members of Mr. Combs' security staff also witnessed violence against Ms. Ventura, but did nothing about it. The witness telling prosecutors she attempted to persuade Ms. Ventura to leave Mr. Combs, but eventually, quote, I made a decision that it would be best for the safety of myself to not interfere because I don't think she was really ready to do anything. Ms.

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Richard currently has a separate civil complaint pending against Mr. Combs. Former friend to Ms. Ventura, Carrie Morgan, also called on Monday to testify. Ms. Morgan testifying that she and Ms. Ventura were best friends from 2001 to 2018, but the friendship ended when Mr. Combs assaulted Ms. Morgan, quote, he came up behind me and choked me and then boomeranged a wooden hanger at my head. Ms.

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Morgan telling prosecutors she packed up her belongings and left Ms. Ventura's apartment. the witness saying she met with Ms. Ventura about a month later. Ms. Ventura told her that Mr. Combs would pay Ms. Morgan $30,000 in exchange for signing a nondisclosure agreement. Ms. Morgan says she agreed to the deal, accepted the money, and never spoke to Ms. Ventura again.

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The former best friend also describing multiple instances of violence, including the fallout after that 2016 incident at the Intercontinental Hotel where Mr. Combs was captured on security cameras throwing Ms. Ventura to the ground. kicking her and dragging her. Ms. Morgan saying she was staying at Ms. Ventura's apartment at the time. Ms. Ventura returned with a black eye.

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The witness testifying that Mr. Combs arrived at the apartment about 30 minutes later, banging on the door with a hammer. On cross-examination, prosecutors asking Ms. Morgan about the nature of the relationship between Combs and Ventura, including infidelity and jealousy. Ms. Morgan saying to the defense she did believe Mr. Combs and Ms. Ventura were in love,

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also saying she at times believed that they could work things out. The witness saying at the time Mr. Combs assaulted Ms. Morgan, he was questioning her about an affair he thought Ms. Ventura was having. Mr. Combs is facing charges of sex trafficking, racketeering conspiracy, and transportation to engage in prostitution. Mr. Combs has pleaded not guilty.

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FBI Director Kash Patel and Deputy Director Dan Bongino in a joint interview Sunday on Fox weighing in on Jeffrey Epstein's cause of death. You said Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide. People don't believe it.

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Deputy Director Dan Bongino adding on X, quote, Jeffrey Epstein was found dead in his jail cell in August of 2019, an apparent suicide by hanging. At the time, he was awaiting trial on federal sex trafficking charges. The disgraced financier had many ties to powerful people, including former President Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew,

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Microsoft founder Bill Gates, and various Hollywood elites, connections many expected to be scrutinized in court. The suspicious circumstances surrounding Epstein's death sparking widespread speculation. Two guards assigned to monitor Epstein reportedly fell asleep and failed to perform mandatory 30-minute checks.

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Security cameras outside his cell malfunctioned, fueling ongoing suspicions of foul play. Critics have pointed to the Epstein case and lack of transparency as a major catalyst in declining public trust in the FBI.

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Attorney General Pam Bondi initially promised a full release of the Epstein files, but in a very high-profile misstep, the documents unveiled in, quote, phase one turned out to already be public. A number of influencers called to the White House for the big reveal were publicly embarrassed through no fault of their own.

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AG Pam Bondi now saying her team is carefully reviewing newly discovered files to ensure no Epstein victims are inadvertently identified. The Trump administration says it remains committed to full transparency in the Epstein case. And that'll do it for your AM Update. I'm Megyn Kelly.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. We are starting to see the signs of Trump Lawfare 2.0 as the new administration battles with multiple left-wing judges, but one in particular, over the Trump team's authority to deport gang members. I mean,

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These are interesting questions to have on a set of facts, which is what I was hoping to get to today. He literally thinks he has the power to take U.S.

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planes being conducted by the military, leaving the United States with people designated terrorists by the president of the United States and his top emissaries, that he can tell them they must turn those planes around when they're in international airspace and bring these criminals back to America, Charlie.

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I debated this with Glenn Greenwald yesterday. There is a check on the President's exercise of power, and it's called impeachment. If the President has overstepped the bounds of Article 2, then he can be impeached by the Article 1 branch, and that's the U.S. Congress. They're not doing that. You may be saying, well, those Republicans are never going to impeach him.

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The audience may be thinking that's too bad. That's the way the founders set it up. If he does something egregious enough, something absolutely horrible, if Trump completely misused his powers, started executing U.S. citizens, I bet he would be impeached even by a Republican House. That's not what's happening here. And so there is a remedy.

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But the founders did not see fit to allow an Article three judge who has absolutely zero authority when it comes to foreign policy to second guess the commander in chief's wartime powers. And no, we're not at war the way we were in World War Two.

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But the president is saying and Stephen Miller was saying in that segment yesterday, which we have a clip of, which was amazing and well worth your time to watch all 10 minutes. that all three pieces of the Alien Enemies Act allow the president to act here.

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Yes, there has been a war declared on the United States by these countries, he said, including Venezuela when it comes to their gangs, and they've committed an invasion, and there's been something less than an invasion, an incursion on the territory of the United States, all three of which would activate the Alien Enemies Act, which allows the president to do this.

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Here's a little bit of the Stephen Miller story. Cassie Hunt exchange yesterday. It's not 11. Masterclass.

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It does say in the very beginning there has to be a declared war against a nation or a state.

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it was amazing. And what was, what was especially great about it was what is that Steve? Is it Cassie or Casey? I don't actually, I, I don't, we've talked about this person before, but okay. Okay. It's Casey, but she, I mean, look, She was too dumb to get it. I'm just going to say it is she was she was not smart enough to handle the truth bombs that Stephen Miller was unleashing. She can't. No.

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And you can see it. She just every moment of the thing was her attempting to do a gotcha. But are we at war? Are we at war with Venezuela? Are we, Stephen? It's like he was so far out of her league. He kept trying to explain it to her. She couldn't quite grasp it. She was just looking for her gotcha moment and she couldn't get there.

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suspected gang members. Trump says these are gang members. Tom Holman says they're gang members. We've done our homework. That's who they are. And we are shipping them out of the country with a ride. I mean, we're being courteous to them, giving them a ride, although it ends in El Salvador at a prison, which is generally where gang members wind up, whether it's domestically or internationally.

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The other thing about that is it is truly like the boy who kills his parents and then begs for mercy on the grounds that he's an orphan. They're in there saying it's 200 years old. It's only been invoked three times during actual wars, hard wars. hot wars.

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And, but they're the ones who allowed some 10 to 20 million illegals criminals in many instances on top of the illegal entry to come into this country over the past four years. The most extraordinary thing we've seen in a century when it comes to illegal immigration in this country.

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And now when president Trump does something extraordinary to combat it, which is to declare an invasion, to declare an incursion, um, Now they turn around and say, you're using antiquated law. What are you doing? This is extraordinary. Like, this has only been used... Yes, you created the circumstances that made this necessary. The thing that's so galling about this judge...

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And that exchange with Casey Hunt yesterday was she kept saying to Stephen Miller, what court can review it? OK, what court can review it? Then what court can review it if this district court cannot do it? And the answer is no court can review it. Casey, no court, not the Supreme Court, not the appellate court, not the district court. That's the answer.

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There is no court, including the highest court in the land, that has jurisdiction over this. And in part, yes, there's the issue of his foreign policy powers alone, but in part it's because of the words of the Alien Enemy Act as interpreted by the U.S. Supreme Court after it was passed. They held as follows. I read this yesterday. It stands. This is not reversed. The U.S. Supreme Court held that

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The Alien Enemy Act precludes, meaning stops, doesn't allow, judicial review of the removal order. This is the Supreme Court deciding a case after World War II had ended. Such great war powers may be abused, no doubt.

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But that is a bad reason for having judges supervise their exercise, whatever the legal formulas within which such supervision would nominally be confined, the Supreme Court majority declared. Accordingly, we hold that full responsibility for the just exercise of this great power may validly be left where the Congress has constitutionally placed it on the president of the United States.

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And this judge is losing his mind that Trump is not doing everything he's commanding him to do. And this is the closest thing we've seen yet to a constitutional crisis. You know how the left has been throwing that term around. And it's not because of Trump. It's because of a judge who thinks he's the president. This Judge Boasberg is speaking to Donald Trump as though he's

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That's the law, Casey. Not the Supreme Court, not the appellate court beneath it, and not Judge Boas Burke.

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OK, there I want to get to exactly who is in these groups that are being deported. But before we do that, stand by one second. OK, Mike Davis, who's coming, he comes on the show all the time. Our audience knows him. He has been making the rounds about this Judge Boasberg. And here's what he's saying.

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So that's the question. I mean, he's saying that he should be impeached. There is a real question about whether there should be consequences for this judge. And, you know, yes, constitutional crisis, everybody will say it. But this guy is way out ahead of his skis. And I agree with you when this moves up and the process has been started and he's allowing it to go forward.

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The judge's underling, his clerk, who needs to run around answering the judge's every little question. This is foreign policy. And this is where Trump is at the apex of his power, which Judge Boasberg doesn't seem to understand. I just want to give you a little overview of what Julie Kelly, so great on the J6 cases, reported happened inside the hearing yesterday. Horrific.

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He's demanding answers to the Trump administration that he gets a second guess with the ACLU's questions, Trump's decisions on how to keep the country safe. that the Supreme Court will rule in Trump's favor. But do you think something should happen to this judge before then?

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It's amazing. You're right about, you know, they've got the juxtaposition of not standing and clapping for the boy who beat brain cancer when he gets, you know, appointed as part of the Secret Service, which was the most delightful, sweet moment. They couldn't bring themselves to clap for him.

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Um, but this hell they'll die on trying to get the criminal gang members returned via flight back into the United States as after we've already gotten them out. Not only that, but they're going to die on the hill of Mahmoud Khalil. Another debate I had with Glenn yesterday where they're saying this guy, Oh, you know, he was just this, it was all about free speech.

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And as I said to Glenn, if this were just about Trump tracking down on Palestinian supporters, he'd be arresting all these people in Dearborn, Michigan. He'd be arresting people all over the country who rallied for the Palestinians who are on the other side. He'd be arresting Karen Atiyah of The Washington Post, who liked the tweet. This is what decolonization looks like.

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That's what he'd be doing. The reason he's going after Mahmoud Khalil is because he was the spokesperson for the group that held Colombia hostage for like. So the left is making these decisions. to die on these very interesting hills after that State of the Union where they already showed themselves to be heartless.

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And I do wonder if you if you look at these decisions of like, you know, standing up for Mahmoud Khalil, standing up for these Venezuelan gang members and, you know, whoever else Trump is deporting who are not citizens, you cannot deport American citizens. That's not who he's deporting, whether they've calculated in any of the political

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where Boasberg, who had said to Trump on Saturday, do not send those planes to El Salvador, any remaining planes, and the ones that are in the air, turn them around and bring them back to the United States. Well, that didn't happen with the three planes. The Trump administration is saying, look, They were in the air and were not turning planes around midair when they're out of U.S.

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And before you answer that, just let me play this up from Caroline Levitt yesterday, describing some of who's going and being booted out on these flights.

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airspace to come back to the U.S. Stephen Miller pointing out yesterday, did the judge have any idea how much fuel was in the planes? Did he have any idea what the flight time was of the crew on board and whether that was safe for them to do, to turn it around? Like, this is so out of order what the judge is doing.

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Yeah, they keep talking about how he's a green card holder. Well, all that means is that he's got a permission slip to be here that can be revoked, unlike American citizenship, which cannot. He's here temporarily. We don't grant the same rights to green card holders as we do to American citizens. They are not allowed to vote. They're not allowed to do a lot.

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In most cases, they're not allowed to receive public assistance. There's all sorts of things that you and I can do as natural born citizens that they can't. Sorry. an actual citizen. And he violated his probation by acting like a mafia thug going into the head of Columbia University and saying over and over, you divest from Israel or you get more Hamilton Halls. Goodbye, Khalil.

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Hope you enjoyed America while you had it. No one gives a shit that you're married to an American or expecting an American baby. They do not give you the right to stay here. And by the way, everybody's like, oh, he's married to an American. That's why he got his green card so fast. No, I don't know how this guy got his green card so fast. I'd actually like to find out.

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Because let me tell you something. I've said this before. My nephew, who's an American, he's the son of my sister.

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married he went over to teach kids in korea you know like kids like young teachers will do and he did that for a couple years and he met a korean woman and he fell in love with her and they got married and they had a baby who had dual citizenship in any event they wanted to move back here so my nephew came back with his son but his wife who's a lawyer and married to an american citizen but not a u.s citizen and whose son is an american citizen but she's not an american citizen

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It's been taking her years, years just to get a green card, not never mind American citizenship. And they have nothing like Mahmoud Khalil's very sketchy history, like working for UNRWA, which is an arm of Hamas. She's she's still having trouble getting the permanent work paper. So something is sketchy about that guy's case, Charlie.

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And with the third flight, that's the one we're not sure whether that took flight after the judge ordered it not to. Whatever. All of this is extrajudicial behavior because the Alien Enemies Act says he doesn't get to review presidential declarations under that act. All right. So that's that's where we are. But let me just give you a little feel for what Julie Kelly says happened yesterday.

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Yes, Charlie, this guy got his student visa to come study at Columbia in 2022. But his petition for relief on these deportation proceedings alleges that he got his green card in 2024 and suspiciously does not say the exact month in 2024. It could have been an 18 month turnaround from student visa to green card holder, which is some kind of bizarre fast track.

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Especially for a guy who was working for UNRWA, the UN group that basically helps Hamas. I mean, truly, even Joe Biden admitted that and started defunding them post 10-7. And that's where he came from. That's where he was before he got into Colombia. So there's something very sketchy about this guy. And now he's represented by 19 different law firms.

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I mean, they couldn't get to his defense fast enough to try to stop... the Trump administration, from deporting this guy. And it's amazing to me to watch the left delude itself that this guy still has some shot at American citizenship. No, that ship has sailed. Mahmoud Khalil will never be a U.S. citizen. It's done. The only question is whether we can kick him out, which we clearly can.

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She writes this is 16 hours ago. Hearing now underway in Judge Boasberg's courtroom on his nationwide temporary restraining order related to the president's March 15th proclamation invoking the Alien Enemies Act. Boasberg acted within hours of a lawsuit filed by the ACLU on behalf of five suspected Venezuelan terrorists. By the way, Trump did not deport those five.

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All of it is just so infuriating. And I know the left wants to say it's free speech, it's free speech. It went well beyond free speech. The people who just said we hate Israel, we stand with the Palestinians. They're fine. That's fine. It's totally fair game under our First Amendment.

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You can you can even say I'm sympathetic to Hamas, though you're getting closer to espousing support for terrorists there. But go ahead.

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OK, we're talking about Venezuelan gang members, and this apparently is the hill the left wants to die on. The White House says the deportation flights will continue and that they will win this fight all while the media melts down. And Gavin Newsom's been busy podcasting. I mean, you know, like your state, parts of it, large parts of it remain in ashes. Maybe you should be governing.

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That's only fair. So the thing about this group that he was the spokesperson for, the Columbia University Apartheid Divest, they put in writing that they're for the end of Western civilization. They want to end Western civilization. So Marco Rubio was exactly—that's the group for which he decided to be a spokesperson.

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OK, no, it's different. If an American citizen says something, that's one thing. You can't deport him for saying controversial stuff even like that. But a probationary person who's asking to be a U.S. citizen has the same standard applied to him as somebody who's seeking to enter the country in the first place.

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If you could exclude him based on the behavior you're looking at, you can deport him based on the behavior you're looking at. And Marco Rubio had it exactly right. We would not allow somebody into this country if we understood that their goal was to destroy Western civilization. That would be a hard no.

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And if that's that guy's goal, which it is, of the group he joined and became a spokesperson of, it's done. I had this debate with Glenn yesterday where we were talking about, I believe he did commit crimes by being the spokesperson for this group, and that would get him deported. Crimes will get you deported. But even if they're not charged, even if they're not charged—

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He listened to the judge and said, all right, we can hash it out over those five. But these others, they're going. Boesberg, I've scheduled this hearing for fact-finding on the government's response to my order. We're focusing on a timeline involved. I want to get a sense of the numbers. I just want facts, not planning to issue any ruling about the government's conduct.

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The government can go in there and say, we see there's probable cause to believe you committed these crimes. You're out. And speech that espouses or supports terrorism while you're a probationary citizen can get you kicked out.

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And if Marco Rubio, in his discretion as Secretary of State, thinks that there's a reasonable chance you might have bad implications for foreign policy, he can kick you out. It's just all sorts of different rules apply to somebody like this than apply to us. Okay, wait. I took the last word. Quick break. More with Charlie after this. Was it a good idea to go on Gavin Newsom's podcast?

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Go to hometitlelock.com, use my promo code Megan250, or click on the link in the description and make sure to check out the million dollar triple lock protection details when you get there. Hometitlelock.com, promo code Megan250. And Charlie, in not unrelated news, there's this case making the rounds today involving a doctor named Rasha Alewi, who's 34 years old. She's a Lebanese doctor.

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She was here on a visa. She's not a U.S. citizen. And she just got the boot at Boston's Logan Airport when she tried to get back into the country. Because it turns out she was off going to the funeral of the head of Hezbollah while she was overseas. And now she's yet another favorite. poster girl of the left. They're very upset that Customs and Border Patrol didn't let her back in.

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This is what sort of drew our attention to it. Today, the White House, no, it was Homeland Security, posted this picture, no, it was the White House, posted a picture of Donald Trump in the McDonald's apron waving out the you know, out the window at McDonald's. Bye. He's waving goodbye. And they're talking about this case.

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Yes, the DOJ, if it's still true that the five individual plaintiffs are in the U.S., DOJ says yes. How many planes departed the U.S. on Saturday under the proclamation? DOJ says flights complied with his order but won't disclose more.

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They write, last month, Rasha Alawi traveled to Beirut, Lebanon, to attend the funeral of Hassan Nasrallah, a brutal terrorist who led Hezbollah, responsible for killing hundreds of Americans over a four-decade terrorist spree. Can't make this stuff up. This woman... Of course, you'll be shocked, shocked to hear that she got into the United States in 2018 on a student visa and...

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became a professor at Brown University, which is truly the most anti-Semitic university in America, more than Columbia. I say that 100% believing it to be true. She was a physician specializing in kidney transplants. So now the left is pretending we really needed her because we can't find any of our own doctors who do kidney transplants.

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We have to find terrorist sympathizers and let them teach at our universities with our young people. So she came here and did all the things I said. Then she left to go mourn her favorite terrorist, Hassan Nasrallah. And then when she tried to get back in, I'm sorry. I just love this case. It's so ridiculous. She got caught in a lift. Why don't, why did they just not take the L like this one?

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Sorry. She got caught. You're going to have to know they're out there defending her. Um, she was questioned by CPB officers on her way back in who searched her phone, which apparently they have the right to do. Uh, when you're trying to get in and out of the country, you're not an American citizen. Uh, and so, um, uh,

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They would not immediately admit her because they found sympathetic photos and videos of prominent Hezbollah figures in a deleted items folder on her cell phone. So she knew she should get rid of this, but she wasn't very good at it. She said she's apolitical, Charlie. She didn't really delete it. And she had these images because... No, because those leaders are revered by many Shia Muslims.

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boesberg to anyone including me doj yes boesberg based on what doj cites national security concerns and flight patterns boesberg you're saying it's classified i can receive classified information um okay then he goes on here's a list of questions i want answered and you can tell me why you won't give me these answered and the deadline to answer is noon today tuesday

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Like, you see, I don't love Hitler, but lots of other people do, which is why I have a whole deleted file of Hitler photos on my phone.

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I put a court transcript. Right. Exactly. Just, you know, he's just an interesting figure. That's also I not only do I watch the History Channel about him, but I filled my phone full of photos of him. So I have a lot of WhatsApp groups, she says, with families and friends who send them. I am a Shia Muslim. He is a religious figure.

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He has a lot of teachings and he's very highly regarded in the Shia community. He's a religious, spiritual person. As I said, he has very high value. His teachings are about spirituality and morality. Okay, just note to the listening audience, he's a terrorist and that's why he was killed in this Israeli airstrike. He was in charge of Hezbollah.

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For 32 years, and in case you don't believe he was a terrorist, he was designated as such by the United States of America. In 1983, suicide bombing attacks against the first U.S. embassy in Beirut, then the barracks of American and French peacekeepers, killing at least 360 people, including 241 American service members.

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The murderous attacks were claimed by the Islamic Jihad Organization, considered a precursor to Hezbollah. Some of the suspected planners... included top commanders under Nasrallah. And I don't know, we could keep going. So he's a spiritual and moral leader. And then when questioned about other photos she had of Iranian Supreme Leader Khamenei, Alawi said, oh, that's just typical of Shia Muslims.

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It has nothing to do with politics. Asked why she appeared to have deleted some of these photos, she Just a day before arriving in the U.S., she replied, because I don't want the perception, but I can't delete everything. But I know I'm not doing anything wrong. I'm not related to anything politically or militarily. I'm really not much into politics.

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But yes, she admitted she did know about the U.S. terrorism designation for Hezbollah. OK, so now the law firm stepped in, tried to rescue her from being booted out. She was detained for like a day while they figured out what to do with her. The left wing law firms ran into court. They got a decision from an Obama judge, U.S. District Judge Leo Sorokin at 718 p.m.

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on Friday evening saying, don't deport her, don't move her outside of Massachusetts. And at 7.20, two minutes later, not knowing of the order, CPB walked her to the gate to get her on her flight out of here. And the flight took off at, it departed the gate at 7.43 p.m. It took off at 7.59 p.m. And now there's a meltdown over why she got deported because apparently CPB, shockingly, the U.S.

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government didn't have the administrative setup to get this instantaneous notice that she was not to be sent out. But she was. So what do you make of it?

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How many planes left at any time Saturday based solely on the proclamation by President Trump? How many people were on each plane? In what country did the planes land? What time did they take off? What time did they land? When were they in airspace? What time were individuals on the plane transferred to custody?

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Yeah. She's going to go home and be with her people. I think she's going to be a lot happier over there. She should hang out with Mahmoud Khalil. They'll get along great. Don't send your child to Columbia. Don't send your child to Brown. Do not send your child to Brown University. Over my dead body would my children go to either of those institutions. Okay.

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Before we leave foreign policy, Trump fighting back against the Houthis, who have basically just run roughshod over important waterways over in the Middle East. And now he's saying, you know what? We're done with that. You're going to stop harassing U.S. vessels and other vessels. And there was I'm just going to get the stats since October 2023.

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Now he asked the ACLU if they have any questions that they want answered by the Trump administration. So the ACLU is now directing our foreign policy about these flights. Julie Kelly continues, there are three flights at issue. two, and I think she's repeating what the judge was saying.

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The Houthi rebels have attacked more than 100 merchant vessels and warships in the Red Sea with hundreds of missiles, drones and speedboats loaded with explosives. And now Trump is fighting back, actually saying, you're not going to get away with this. We're going to put a stop to this. And also warning Iran, we know you're behind all of this and we're going to hold you accountable.

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We know it's not just this rebel group. Now, interestingly, your friend in mind, Tucker Carlson, weighed in on this on Twitter. and said the following. It's worth pointing out that a strike on the Iranian nuclear sites will almost certainly result in thousands of American deaths at bases throughout the Middle East and cost the U.S. tens of billions of dollars.

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The cost of future acts of terrorism on American soil may be even higher. Those aren't guesses. Those are the Pentagon's own estimates. A bombing campaign against Iran will set off a war, and it will be America's war. Don't let the propagandists lie to you. Now, I think he's referring to what's happening with the Houthis and Trump's increasing rhetoric against Iran.

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In fairness, he doesn't get that specific. But what do you make of this? Because there is a large portion of the MAGA base that is very non-interventionalist and does not want to saber rattle against Iran, even though they clearly are backing the Houthis.

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Trump is a little bit more, he's not a neocon, but he's a little bit more aggressive on like dropping the bombs on people like Soleimani than that wing of the party is. So how do you see this going?

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There are three flights at issue, two that left before, no, sorry, this is her, two that left before any written order, and that the DOJ says did not include individuals covered under the Alien Enemies Act, and one that might have departed after Boasberg's minute order posted on 730 Saturday. ACLU wants a sworn statement.

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Just to clarify that our retaliatory strike on them carried out by jets from the carrier at Harry S. Truman per Reuters on Sunday, at least 31 were killed. Keep going, Charlie.

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that the third flight did not include illegals covered by Trump's proclamation. Boesberg tells DOJ he will order the government to file a sworn statement as to the third flight. The ACLU is in charge of foreign policy. Boesberg, now you can tell me why the other two flights complied with my order. How? How did they comply with my order?

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I see it as a brushback, the same as I hate to use a sports analogy since I know very little about that arena. But I see it as like when the pitcher. That's right. You know, almost hits the batter with the ball, like get back from the plate. That's what he's doing with the Houthis to Iran. Like a little chin music.

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Exactly. Like you better watch it. And just to just to tell the audience what exactly he said, he in part said the following on a true social post talked about how weak Biden was with the Houthis and how U.S. ships are not able to sail through the Suez Canal, the Red Sea or the Gulf of Aden.

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And I said the last American warship to go through the Red Sea four months ago was attacked by the Houthis over a dozen times. This will not be tolerated any longer. We will use overwhelming lethal force. The Houthis have choked off shipping in one of the most important waterways in the world.

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And he says no terrorist force will stop American commercial naval vessels from freely sailing the waterways of the world to the Houthi terrorists. Your time is up. Your attacks must stop starting today. If they don't, hell will rain down upon you like nothing you've ever seen before to Iran. Support for the Houthi terrorists must end immediately.

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Do not threaten the American people, their president, who's received one of the largest mandates in presidential history or worldwide shipping lanes. If you do, beware, because America will hold you fully accountable and we won't be nice about it. OK, so that's where we are on the Houthis. Yet another area of the world we've got to keep our eye on. Again, not caused by Trump.

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trying to be addressed by Trump in a way that stops the nonsense. He's absolutely right. Why should we be kept out of these waterways by the Houthis? This is bullshit. Anyway, no one wants a war with them, but why should we just cede the three waterways in the world because of these terror offshoots? Okay. Got to get to Charlie Kirk as the inaugural guest on the Gavin Newsom podcast.

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And of course, you did a great job. And of course, you made news with him on his own podcast by getting him to admit that it's unfair to allow boys to compete against girls in girls sports, which was great. You were your typical guy.

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on point, substantive self, and he couldn't resist giving you what is such an obvious point and one on which even the Democrats are with him over 70%, even though lawmakers won't admit it. But here's what I said, and you know I love you and I love Steve Bannon too. I don't like to see it because my own feeling is this guy's in training for 2028 against J.D. Probably.

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DOJ again argues Boasberg's oral statement during the March 15th 5 p.m. hearing was not controlling that this order went into effect once it was posted on the docket. They're trying to say the flights may have taken off after the oral ruling that they shouldn't take off. But but but I'm trying to get this right. He issued the oral ruling and they're saying that wasn't right. That didn't control.

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That's what we think will likely be the standard bearer for the Republican Party. And he needs practice. We saw that when he debated Ron DeSantis on Hannity. He needs practice. He's not very good at it.

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And we should not be helping him like the more times he sits across from Charlie Kirk and Steve Bannon and any of our sort of lead fighters, the better he will get, the better he'll do, the more he'll understand how to appeal to people who are more right wing or independently minded, but but on the right. And he doesn't deserve our help. And we shouldn't be in there like giving him the assist.

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What controlled was the written minute order that posted. And these flights took off before the written order was posted. But they're also arguing... Out of the same other side of the mouth, you didn't have the authority to issue this order anyway. Here we go. I'm almost getting to you, Charlie. Stand by.

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That's interesting. I guess I'm still in the camp of don't help him. Don't don't help train him and don't help build his media brand, because there's also a possibility what he really wants is to be Charlie Kirk and not Donald Trump. That what he really wants is to be the next Bill Maher with an audience that's large and that can appeal to both sides. And maybe that's his next invention.

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Either one I'm against. And so I'm just not in favor of it, notwithstanding the fact that you did a great job and made a lot of news. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Well, Charlie's got to run. It's a pleasure as always, my friend. Good to see you. Thanks for being here.

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Okay, but before we leave the topic of Gavin Newsom, let me give you some of those numbers that Charlie was referencing because they are brutal. Capital Weekly, a nonprofit publication covering California politics, did a survey of 1,000 Californians and had them watch clips of Newsom's interview with Charlie. The podcast only made 13% of voters have an improved perception of the governor.

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Boasberg's now agitated that his verbal direction to return the planes during the hearing is not considered controlling. Boasberg's now saying the DOJ should not have allowed any planes to take off on Saturday at all because the DOJ knew Boasberg would be holding a hearing at 5 p.m., And Boasberg's first minute order related only to the first, the five illegal plaintiffs.

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26% said it harmed their perception. 58% said it made no difference. Among self-identified liberals, 37% said that the snippets harmed their perception of the governor. So in other words, 26% overall said it harmed their perception of him. And among liberals, 37% said it harmed my perception of the governor. Among those who have very favorable opinions of Gavin Newsom, he lost 16%.

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So he went from, um, people who liked Gavin Newsom liberals saying, I have a very favorable opinion of him at 46%. It fell to 30%. So Charlie's correct. He's hurting himself with his liberal base by doing these interviews of people like Charlie and Steve and Michael Savage. Um, he it's because the thing about Gavin Newsom is he's, he's not very good at pushing back.

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So he's not going in there and doing battle with the Charlies and the Bannons of the world. He's somewhat obsequious, to be honest with you. I mean, it's very strange because when you listen to him, you would think like he's a moderate, but he's not. He's, I mean, on the trans stuff and virtually every other subject, he is as radical as they come.

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He is another Kamala Harris, but there's something about him. Maybe he is a people, people pleaser, you know, a vintage politician when he gets across from our, well, these are our war fighters. I truly like the three I mentioned. These are war fighters in a way, rhetorical war. Um, He feels the need to get their approval. That's how it feels.

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And he's getting excoriated by the left wing press as a result. It's actually kind of amusing. We put together a butted soundbite. Take a listen here.

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Amazing. Adam Kinzinger, I sacrificed a career taking on people like Steve Bannon. Did you? Did you really? I don't. I don't. That's not how I remember it at all. You got Trump derangement syndrome. You decided to be a J6, anti-J6 warrior. You participated in the J6 committee, which was completely dishonest and a show trial. And Republicans decided you weren't their cup of tea.

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It was not Steve Bannon's fault. in any event, they're melting down on the left over what Gavin Newsom is doing, which is kind of fun. I mean, it almost makes me want to see it continue, but not really, not really, because unlike Bill Maher, who definitely has a touch of the TDS, but can be fair to Republicans, the way Gavin Newsom governs is truly radical.

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Boasberg saying the Trump administration should not have executed the president's order because Boasberg was going to hold a hearing that evening and maybe stop the government from deporting under the Alien Enemies Act. OK, that's where we'll kick it off today. What what is happening here and your reaction to this judge?

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I mean, there's nothing fair about the way he runs California when it comes to fairness to Republicans. Nothing. Nothing. He's sided over and over with that lunatic Scott Weiner, the one that Kerry and Britt have been chasing down all over California on his radical trans ideology. I think he's only rejected that guy one time on his most crazy trans agenda.

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And now he wants to come out and say like, oh, yeah, boys shouldn't be in girl sports. Like Charlie said, well, what have you done about it? You loon. That same guy in Massachusetts who I've been railing on cameras, Seth Moulton. Remember after the Dems lost in this past presidential election? He was like, you know what? We've really gone too far. Boys shouldn't be playing against girls.

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I have two daughters. You go back. He voted against stopping that every single chance he had. He's a U.S. congressman. He voted in favor of allowing boys access to girls' sports and girls' private spaces every single chance he had. So it's like...

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That's great that you can now go on a podcast or issue a press release saying you're on my side, but you govern, you legislate 180 degrees the other way, and I choose to look at what you've done, not your rhetoric when you're across from a conservative or a reporter confronting you with polls that show everybody's on the side of reason, which is to keep these boys out of these sports.

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All right, on that subject. We have a special guest coming up next. This is the first time she's spoken out. And wait until you hear what happened to her when it comes to her NCAA medal and who took it from her. I'm Megyn Kelly, host of The Megyn Kelly Show on Sirius XM.

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Trump's executive order keeping men out of women's sports was a victory for women and a huge step in the right direction. But one female athlete does not think it goes far enough. Mina Svard is a Swedish track and field athlete, and she wrote an opinion piece in the Wall Street Journal that dropped yesterday laying out what else she would like to see done and for good reason.

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Mina joins me now for an exclusive interview. Welcome to the show, Mina. Great to have you.

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Oh, my pleasure. Okay, so you were born and raised in Sweden, but you came over to America for college, right? How did you make your way to the U.S. ?

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OK, so you decided to come over here to compete in track and field that that's your sport.

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Okay. So you wind up going to the NCAA championships, right? Like explain what happened there.

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When did you find out that this man, CeCe Tefler, posing as a woman, was going to be allowed to compete against you?

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And was there anything you could have done, Mina? Did anybody say, well, you could challenge it? Or were they basically like, you're stuck with us, deal with it?

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Because you had to realize that, I mean, look at this person. And for the listening audience, it is very clearly a man with male size, with male musculature. And indeed, CeCe Tefler was running and competing in track and field as a man shortly prior to declaring himself a woman and running and competing against you. Yes. How close in time was it?

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But instead, he wants to do what I do, which is fine. It's fun. But, you know, they elected him to do a different job. And he's trying to figure out how Trump crushed his party last November. He's talking with some of the biggest names in MAGA world. His first guest earlier this month was Charlie Kirk, the founder of Turning Point USA and host of The Charlie Kirk Show.

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And his stats were terrible, as I understand it. He was in the mid 300s in terms of his, where he ranked in track and field at that point as a man.

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So he wins the national championship. Here he is running the hurdles and he's way ahead of everybody. And I understand he won by some two seconds, which is explain that to us. Cause that's like an eternity. That's the average viewer may be thinking two seconds. That's not, but that in track and field, that's an eternity.

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Wow. So if he had not been allowed to race, that's you coming up behind him, you would have been the gold medal winner.

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The first place finisher at the NCAA championships. So this person, I mean, it's really unbelievable. You've got to go and look at the video because you'll see that this is clearly a man. He's six foot two inches. He was born in Jamaica. Now he goes by CC. His real name is Craig. Now it's been changed.

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first competed without success in the men's division at Franklin Pierce university from 16 to 17. Um, and was again, middling at best. He had terrible numbers. He was in the mid three hundreds place there until he became suddenly quote a woman and then took first in the 400 meter hurdles in June of 2019. I mean, right. Like days later, basically you decided he's a woman and there he is.

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And so when you stood up there as a second place finisher, uh, Did you feel like you had to pretend this was fine? Like what was going through your head there on the podium holding up your trophy?

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Mm-hmm. By the way, I looked it up. He was 390th among the NCAA Division II men, 390th, and then suddenly declares himself a woman and he's number one and really loving the joy of defeating all of the women as though it's some sort of a feat for somebody who's been through male puberty and was running as a man two years earlier. It's just absurd. So what what is it that you would like now?

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Because we've got the Trump executive order, which is great. The NCAA's interpretation of it and promise to comply with it is less great. You could drive a truck through the holes that they've left, but it's something, I guess. So what would you like to see now?

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So, I mean, it's really amazing when you think about what they did to you and like all women. I think you were told and probably raised to be nice, worry about this person's feelings. You know, there's such a small percentage. That's what they always say, Mina. Such a small percentage of the country is trans. And, you know, this is just such a niche issue when it comes to athletics, too.

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Like, you know... What where's the harm? That's really what people like Megan Rapinoe, soccer player who's already made her millions, ask. What's what's the harm? And to that, you say what?

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Yes, you were, even if you get the medal back, you were denied the glorious joy of winning, which you earned. It is unfair, period. Yeah. I can't imagine training for as many hours as you did. you know, just to have that feeling, right? I'm not an athlete, but maybe you could describe it for me.

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What does it feel like when you do cross first, when you were competing against other women, also fierce competitors, and you beat them fair and square? Like, what does it feel like?

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And then you get this boost of confidence and a belief in yourself and a belief in hard work. Like so much is gained by these young women thanks to the glorious joy of winning. And that's what's being stolen. That's part of what's being stolen. And it's not replaceable whether you get the trophy or the medal or you don't.

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That's the bare minimum they owe you is your medal, your first place finish and your recognition as the winner. Is there any chance they're actually going to do it?

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They could do right by you. CeCe Teffler has been a media darling, Craig. Went on CNN after the Trump inauguration and tried to paint himself as a victim. Here he is in SOP 51.

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When you hear this man calling himself a woman and trying to get our sympathy for him because he's a woman and has it so tough among all these other challenges that are allegedly being targeted by the evil Trump, transgender and black and a woman. What what do you think?

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Mm-hmm. This is just for the listening audience, a post that he put up on his Instagram vacillating between his feminine and his masculine voice. Take a listen.

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okay, the fact that that man has your metal is infuriating. And, you know, the truth is, Mina, that most actual trans people, people who actually genuinely have gender dysphoria, is what I'm saying, they would never use the man voice. They would be embarrassed to use the man voice.

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So what that tells me is that more than likely, this is an autogonophile who gets off, gets sexually aroused by dressing like a woman. It's not about gender dysphoria. It's about a sexual fetish. And you lost your metal to that, that you were forced to participate in this man's sexual fetish more than likely in that race. Who is standing up for you? Is there anybody at NCAA?

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Is there any sympathetic person? Is there a lot? Who is standing up for you?

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I would love to see it happen. And I'm sure our friends over at the Independent Women's Council or at the ICONS group would be interested in kicking that one around. Mina, I'm so sorry this happened to you. You did not deserve any of this. All your hard work, blood, sweat, and tears earned you the first place finish. And we know you won that race. Thank you for speaking up.

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Wow. I don't know, guys, maybe God had a more important race for Mina in mind. You know, maybe he had a bigger challenge that he wanted her to step up to. And she's in the midst of it right now. This it's infuriating to me. It actually like makes me emotional. It's infuriating to me that they are doing this to young women. Think of it. He is a sick person. He's sick. And they enabled it.

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They enabled his mental illness and our unwellness to ruin that girl's life and everything she had worked for. It's infuriating. It has to stop. And I mean, actually stop. Not just the Gavin Newsom window dressing of, gee, I'm against it, but let me pass legislation allowing it. Just as soon as you leave the room and before you got here, too. It actually must stop.

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And people like Mina are going to make it stop. Thanks to all of you for joining me today. We're back tomorrow with our friends from National Review. See you then. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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And he happens to be our guest today as well. Aren't you tired of the corporate media prioritizing certain narratives over the facts? I was too, and that's why we started this show, to have real conversations full of tough questions to get to the truth. And it's also why I want to tell you about Ground News, an independent app and website not at the mercy of corporate control.

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It's amazing when you think Joe Biden opened the southern border and said, come on in, facilitated the millions, literally millions of illegals, including illegal gang members who would commit murder in the United States. Come on in.

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And now as Trump is trying to correct what Joe Biden did, starting with the worst of the worst, the people who not only broke our laws to enter the country, but actually broke our laws once here by engaging in gang activity or murder or rape, etc. That's where he's beginning the efforts. that now we've got the ACLU involved. Now we've got the left filing legal challenges to slow it down.

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This is the hill they want to die on. Don't deport Venezuelan gang members. They have the right to stay here. They have the right to clog up our courts.

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with person-by-person hearings to decide whether they're deportable, as opposed to, there's no question that if stopped while trying to sneak across the border, we could have just kicked them out immediately, turned them around immediately and said, get the hell out of here. But because Joe Biden... Let them in. Let them commit crimes inside the United States.

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They prioritize transparency so you can compare coverage on any issue and think for yourself instead of letting someone else think for you. They even show important stories that the other side is ignoring. Go to groundnews.com slash Megan to see it all in action. With so many outlets suppressing conservative views and ignoring facts, Ground News is more important than ever.

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Now we're pretending like they have additional rights where they can go through a bunch of hearings in front of a D.C. district court judge. And the D.C. district court judge is playing along like, well, it could just be a bunch of Americans who Tom Homan is confused about who need my protection as this D.C. federal district court judge.

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And here's just one more thing of the Julie Kelly thread yesterday. She writes, Boasberg, Judge Boasberg and the DOJ are now arguing over the court's jurisdiction over international waters and airspace. Boasberg keeps interrupting DOJ and insisting he has the ultimate authority.

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Quote, isn't it a better course to return the planes to the United States and figure out a better course instead of we will do whatever we want? He says Trump administration's only relief is to appeal his order, not ignore it. There is no evidence that that is the case, she writes. She was quoting him here.

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I'm just asking how my equitable powers do not attach to that plane after it left the United States. DOJ citing presidential military and foreign diplomatic authority. Boasberg, you're saying the president has extra powers over a plane once it leaves the United States? I think my equitable powers are pretty clear that they don't end at the water's edge or airspace edge.

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Use the code Megan to get 20% off. That's WeHeartNutrition.com, code Megan. A federal judge ordering the Trump administration back into court yesterday following the successful deportation of Trenda Aragua gang members under the Alien Enemies Act of 1798. The DOJ's motion to vacate the hearing denied by D.C. District Court Judge James Boasberg.

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On Saturday, that judge ordering a two-week pause on the administration's plans to conduct deportations under the Wartime Act, which also applies in case of an invasion, stating any planes already in the air must turn around and return to the United States. This order granted in spite of Supreme Court precedent stating that the Alien Enemies Act does not allow judicial review of removal orders.

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The Trump administration doubling down on deporting more than 100 Tren de Aragua gang members from Venezuela in spite of a judge's order demanding their return to the United States.

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Judge Boasberg demanding answers from the Trump Organization on Monday as to why he says they did not comply with his order. The Trump administration contends the planes were already in international territory at the time of the order and thus out of the judge's jurisdiction. Deputy Chief of Staff for Policy Stephen Miller explaining to reporters the administration's position.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Tuesday, March 18th, 2025, and this is your AM Update.

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Borders are Tom Homan telling Fox Business the White House complied with the original narrower order from the judge.

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DOJ lawyers on Monday requesting the D.C. appellate court reassign this case to another judge. Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt describing some of the crimes the Tren de Aragua deportees were involved in.

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Trenda Aragua is the same organization responsible for the rapes and murders of little Jocelyn Nangare and 22-year-old Laken Riley. Ms. Levitt says the government is paying El Salvador about $6 million to house these illegals on our behalf. Critics of the administration say invoking the act poses a grave threat to American citizens.

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The Alien Enemies Act only applies to non-citizens. Even naturalized citizens cannot be legally deported under this act. Democrat congressman from Texas Jasmine Crockett telling CNN the Alien Enemies Act is antiquated. The government has other ways of deporting terrorist gang members, she says.

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President Trump announcing President Biden's last-minute pardons signed by Autopen are null and void. Is that legal? And Russian President Vladimir Putin and American President Trump expected to speak later today in hopes of securing a ceasefire in Ukraine. Senator Chuck Schumer cancels a book tour citing alleged security concerns amid reports of progressive groups planning protests of him.

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Tom Homan responding to that criticism from outside the White House on Monday.

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Mr. Holman vowing the deportation flights will continue. President Trump declaring early Monday morning the pardons signed by Joe Biden's auto pen at the end of his presidency are null and void. Mr. Trump writing on Truth Social, quote, Joe Biden did not sign them. But more importantly, he did not know anything about them.

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The necessary pardoning documents were not explained to or approved by Biden. President Trump saying the staffers who did know about the auto pen signatures may have committed a crime. An auto pen is a mechanical device used to replicate the president's signature with a real pen as opposed to a stamp or a digital copy.

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Auto pens have been used by the White House for decades, the earliest models employed by Thomas Jefferson. Typically, they're only used for mass communications like Christmas cards and more routine documents. President Obama employed the auto pen twice on major pieces of legislation, extending the Patriot Act in 2011 and again in 2013 to sign a fiscal bill.

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Both times the move was met with some controversy. The questions surrounding the Biden administration's use of the auto pen originally raised last week by the Conservative Heritage Foundation. Their investigation finding the signatures on President Biden's January 19th pardons for his family members, Dr. Fauci, General Milley, the J6 Select Committee, all appear to be identical.

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Throughout the week, the Heritage Foundation's oversight project identifying dozens more of President Biden's identical signatures on official White House documents. Given President Biden's now widely recognized cognitive decline, President Trump challenging the validity of any auto pen signed documents.

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The New York Post reporting late last week, two Biden White House staffers suspected a key aide may have abused the auto pen privileges. The staffer telling the Post, quote, everyone was suspicious of this individual exceeding their authority when claiming to speak for the president. There is no clarity on who actually approved what POTUS, meaning the president or the aide.

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The Constitution does not require that a pardon be written at all, nor does it contain edicts about signatures. If President Trump is challenging whether Mr. Biden agreed to the pardons at all, that could lead to a legal dispute. So far, the White House has not announced any official challenges to the pardons.

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President Trump acknowledged to reporters if his claims go further, it would be up to the courts to decide. Coming up, President Trump is set to speak with Russian President Vladimir Putin later today, and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer cancels a book tour citing security concerns amid reports of progressive groups planning protests at them.

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In recent weeks, President Trump more open to discussing some concessions that will have to come from the Russians. The president providing some details on board Air Force One.

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Mr. Putin will reportedly be seeking ironclad guarantees that Ukraine will not be allowed to join NATO. Mr. Trump has repeatedly stated that will not happen. No word yet on what such guarantees might look like. Russian officials also stating their opposition to NATO observers deploying to Ukraine.

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President Trump has expressed openness to sending French and British forces as peacekeepers after the war. President Trump believes those forces, in combination with U.S. economic investment in Ukraine, will be more than enough to thwart further Russian aggression. Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt describing the negotiations as on the 10-yard line.

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Mr. Trump has recently floated the use of sanctions against the Russians if necessary to speed along negotiations. President Trump putting Iran on notice any further shots fired from Houthi rebels will be considered shots fired by Iran. The Houthis are a rebel group in Yemen that have been engaged in a civil war since they took over the capital in 2014.

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Their rallying cry is reportedly death to America, death to Israel, a curse upon the Jews, victory to Islam. President Trump writing on Truth Social, Iran is, quote, dictating every move, giving them the weapons, supplying them with money and highly sophisticated military equipment and even so-called intelligence.

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The president warning Iranian leadership consequences of aiding the Houthis will be dire. The group stepping up attacks on ships in the Red Sea, which connects the Mediterranean to the Indian Ocean shortly after the October 7th, 2023 attack on Israel. Secretary of State Marco Rubio says in that time, the Houthis have attacked U.S. warships 174 times and commercial vessels 145 times.

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The group recently threatening to ramp up attacks even more. On Saturday, President Trump ordering strikes on the rebel group, the initial wave of strikes taking out more than 30 targets at multiple locations. Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth warning the group their fate is in their own hands.

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The Red Sea is one of the most important global shipping lanes. According to the White House, before Houthi attacks, 25,000 merchant ships passed through the Red Sea annually, that number declining to about 10,000 thanks to Houthi threats. The alternative route is three times as long, forcing ships to travel all the way around Africa, driving up shipping prices and wait times.

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President Trump says the offensive is not just good for America, it's good for the world. Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer postponing his book tour as activist groups and some Democrat lawmakers condemn his vote to keep the government open. Senator Schumer was scheduled to appear in Baltimore, Washington, New York City, Philly, and L.A.

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to promote his new book, Anti-Semitism in America, A Warning. A representative stating, quote, due to recent security concerns, Senator Schumer's book events are being rescheduled. NBC reporting the New York event was supposed to be a conversation between the senator and New York Congressman Richie Torres.

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Mr. Torres openly criticizing Mr. Schumer's decision to advance the continuing resolution on the budget, posting on X, quote, bailing out the Republicans without extracting anything in return is political malpractice. Specific security threats were not cited, though the Soros-backed progressive group Indivisible had planned protests surrounding stops on the tour.

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Indivisible is just one progressive group calling for Mr. Schumer to resign. On Friday, 11 members of the Sunrise Movement, a group fighting for radical climate change policies, were arrested outside of Senator Schumer's office in Washington. A Change.org petition calling on Democrats to boycott donations to Senate Democrats until Mr. Schumer steps down, gathering more than 25,000 signatures.

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The petition reading, quote, Mr. Schumer has been effectively impotent as minority leader, offering no comprehensive plan or strategy to combat the efforts by Trump and Elon Musk. Amid the fallout, Senator Schumer's longtime legislative director is departing the office, Axios reporting the move's been in the works allegedly for a number of months.

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This, as anger toward Mr. Schumer continues unabated amongst the Team Blue rank and file. So was it a fear of threats that led him to cancel the tour or of low attendance? That'll do it for your AM update. I'm Megyn Kelly. Join me back here for The Megyn Kelly Show. We're live on SiriusXM Triumph Channel 111 at noon east on youtube.com slash Megyn Kelly and on all podcast platforms.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, and happy Tuesday. We have so much news to get to today, a plane crash in Toronto, CBS News versus free speech, and much, much more. But we want to begin by telling you about an announcement we have here at the show.

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Yes, there was an actual minister over there who was crying. There's no crying in politics. What are you doing? Get it together. Okay, we'll get back to that in a second. Let me stick with CBS. Now, here, first of all, she's weirdly smiling, Sharon Alfonsi, throughout the whole thing. She clearly is enjoying it. She's clearly like, oh my God, I'm home. I'm home.

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I didn't realize, you know, Alfonsi sounds Italian, but she's lining up more with the Germans in this particular piece. And And here she is all agog. She's just absolutely loving the new information she's getting as they show her the big red folders full of criminals.

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No, it's not. Yeah, you really hurt them. You fine them thousands of dollars and they go to jail. So fun. I just want to give you the contrast, okay? Because I grew up watching 60 Minutes. It was one of the reasons why I wanted to become a journalist. And this is the reason why.

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People like Mike Wallace, who understood when they were onto a controversial subject or a controversial person, there was a certain tone and strength that would be required in the exchange. Here's a memory.

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And then it doesn't affect this show at all. We'll still be doing this show just as exactly the same way as we always do, but this will be a second offering and you can either listen to it, uh, on Sirius XM at eight 45 East on channel one 11 triumph or Or you can check out any of our podcast feeds. It will hit there weekdays at 6, 6 a.m. 6 a.m. So early.

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That's how you do it. you, you, you unafraid, you have to be unafraid and you go in there fearlessly and put it right to them. This is a crackdown on free speech. This is unfair. This is a violation of human rights. That's how we'd see it in my country. People are allowed to insult, offend or criticize a, a government politician, a party. There's nothing illegal about it.

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And on that note, I'll play it. Here she is interviewing Marco Rubio, who was not, as usual, having any of her nonsense.

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And then what's funny is we talked about it on X yesterday. And some people were like, well, I listen to you only on YouTube. And I was like, people, I've got to be able to take the hair and makeup off. Well, the makeup off, the hair stays on. at the end of the day, or, you know, I don't want to put it on early, early in the morning.

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It was beautiful. He, in the moment, sliced her down. All I could think of was the a few good men line. You effed with the wrong Marine. You effed with the wrong official from the Trump administration because Marco Rubio knows his facts. He knows his history, including, of course, European history and World War II. Obviously much better than Margaret Brennan that dolt does.

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And she tries to finish it up, her inanity, by saying, like, you know that. You know that. And he's like, wrong, Margaret.

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Maybe in that way, CBS is doing its audience a real service. If the audience is as uninformed as Margaret Brennan, then yes, she's providing a service. But I don't believe that. I think CBS News is not recognizable to me. It's really not. I don't understand what this thing is. Even 10 years ago, CBS News was still a journalism outlet. Biased, yes. But I mean, this is beyond. It was never stupid.

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biased and dumb is really unforgivable. You know what I find really bizarre, Megan?

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So I didn't really want to do a YouTube version of this, but so many people wrote and said like on X and just said, just do it anyway. Cause we could post it there without the visual, you know, you can post the actual audio over like a picture of this show graphic, which makes perfect sense. So good idea. We're going to do that. Forgive me for not going on cam for that one, but yeah.

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No. I mean, this moron did the vice presidential debate and embarrassed herself. Now she's out there on her Sunday show, which is supposed to be also more dignified and hard-hitting, embarrassing herself. And they continue to not understand at CBS News that the only reason these politicians say yes to her is because... They wind up looking so good. She makes it easy for them inadvertently.

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She's so dumb. Her questions are so pathetic that she's just easy to make a fool out of and have one of those viral moments. Like when is she and or CBS going to get that she's getting used by by smart right-wing politicians who want a viral moment making her look dumb and them look good. I realize Margaret's too dumb apparently to know this, but somebody at CBS News must see it.

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Maybe they don't like her. Maybe they're enjoying it too. I'm not sure. Here is an actual smart person named Nadine Strawson. She's with FIRE, the foundation for Individual Rights and Education. Thank you. Individual Rights and Education. It's a free speech organization. We've had Greg Louganis on the show many times.

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She's with it and she will explain here what actually was happening with Germany's hate speech laws in between World War I and World War II.

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Yeah. So that's actually what was happening. The more they tried to ban speech, the more this controversial speech would burst out, would feel subversive, would be exciting to engage in, and the more people did it. And obviously CBS doesn't get that. By the way, back in the 60 Minutes report, you know what they didn't have in this report? They didn't speak to a single critic.

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Of these arrests or these laws, they didn't speak to any targets of the arrests or people who have run afoul of those laws. That's what an actual 60 Minutes piece would have looked like 20 years ago, where they would have shown you the real life. And by the way, it's very easy to pick the...

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You know, the PJs, it's an important part of the day to have those on with the clean face and the hair and the ponytail on top of one's head like that. That keeps you like a normal person. You can't be in the glam, the cam glam all day long. It's just weird. So anyway, it is going to launch tomorrow morning. Take a listen. Let me know what you think.

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the line that says, I hope refugee children die in electrified wires and say, that's the kind of thing you're going after. You and I both know there are far more controversial speech examples that have gotten caught in the crosshairs of these German laws that those red files probably have example or after example of that they decided not to highlight in 60. That's the way you do the piece.

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You find somebody whose kid got killed by an illegal immigrant. And so they subscribed to Compact Magazine because they agreed with their anti-illegal immigration push. And you put that person on to say, you know what? I lost a lot when they criminalized Compact Magazine and they shuttered it. I now feel like I'm not allowed to say I'm upset about what happened to my child.

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That's the way you do a fair and balanced piece, which 60 Minutes knows. But they're agenda driven now.

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Right, and says to our friends, remember who you are or who you're supposed to be and what you're doing here because our shared partnership doesn't feel like it has a lot in common anymore. This is why we forge on without you. This is why you're not valuable to us as much when it comes to things like NATO.

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This is why Trump is having two-party discussions about wrapping up the Ukraine war with just Trump and Putin. without even Zelensky, nevermind the Europeans. So we're like, what about us? What about us? And we're kind of like, what about you? What, what about you? Like what you're pushing us to a place where we have more in common with some of these other countries than we do with you.

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It'll be an evolving thing like all these things are. You go back and listen to my first show. of the Megyn Kelly show we're doing now. It sounds very different from what we're doing now. That's normal. That's been true of every show I've ever done. So bear with us. Maybe you'll love it in the beginning.

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We don't recognize ourselves in Germany anymore. What is that? Some of the far left would like us to look more and more like them. Um, the, um, Guy who cried. I've got to show you this. He cried in response to J.D. Vance's speech. This is the same guy. His name is Christopher Hoogson.

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He was part of the German delegation that could be seen smirking and laughing back in 18 when Trump, when he addressed the United Nations General Assembly, issued a stark warning to the German delegation about their country's growing dependence on Russian energy. On Russian energy, of course, which would become a very, very big issue just a few years later when Russia invaded Ukraine.

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They laughed at him. You should have listened to him then. This time around, they listened to his vice president and they cried.

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They're applauding his tears. Kristof. They're hugging him. They're embracing like it's true consolation because he was so upset by what some would call 48 was up there, what J.D. Vance was saying.

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I think you'll like it, but it'll probably change its personality a bit over the weeks and months to come. And looking forward to hearing what you guys think. You can email me as always, megyn at megynkelly.com. All right, let's get to the news. Joining me now, our pal Michael Knowles. He's host of the Michael Knowles show over on The Daily Wire.

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He's like, I drink your tears at my bedside. Okay. We've got to move on because I want to get to this with you. To the bizarre meltdown with... Elon Musk's latest child's mother, allegedly. So a woman named Ashley St. Clair, who claims she's 26, but many internet sleuths claim she's actually 31 or 32. I have no idea.

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Comes out via tweet on Friday, I think it was, over the weekend, and says, a Friday, and says, I am the mother of Elon Musk's latest baby, who's five months old. It's a boy. And He's the father, but it's become clear that a tabloid magazine is going to out this fact, regardless of the harm. So I am going to tell you myself that I want to raise my child and I am Elon's latest.

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child's mother, baby mama is the less nice way of saying it. So Elon doesn't respond to that directly, but then the internet starts like weighing in on this saying, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Is this true? What's happening? And somebody finds an old tweet of this woman's from years ago, 2020, trying to get Elon's contact information.

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And talking about the fact that he's slept with a lot of women and impregnated them and sounds like she would like for this to happen. And Elon retweets that old resurfaced tweet of hers and writes, whoa. That's the only response he's given so far to this whole thing. So we have no idea whether this is really his child's mother. And then Ashley St. Clair says,

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is chastising him, saying, you don't respond to me, you're not talking to me, and now this is what you finally respond to? We've been trying to communicate for the past several days, you've not responded. When are you going to reply to us instead of publicly responding to smears from an individual who just posted photos of me in underwear at 15 years old?

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She's referring to the guy who resurfaced her old tweet. So it's kind of confusing, but it's a long way of saying this woman is accusing Elon of impregnating her and not, I guess, negotiating with her on the care of the child, or at least not to the point where she's happy with the negotiation. She's upset about the privacy, that the tabloid's coming.

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And the next day after the tweet hits, she poses for a full spread in the New York Post in like her sexy wear, the pictures of her. Yeah. Like there's, she's wearing a corset and this is her in this like swanky New York apartment, which is described as like lavish. Here she is with the floor to ceiling windows and the great views. And I, I,

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All I can think as I look at this is your life is the way it is because you decided it would be because of your choices, madam. Like you, you set it up this way. You, I posted on Twitter, you can have a swanky New York apartment. You could earn money and actually wind up renting one yourself. You could also find a man who wants to marry you and raise children with you and

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and who won't have other women in his life at the same time, all of this is available to you. Not just her, but any woman.

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You do not have to make a choice where you try to bang the billionaire to get his baby so that he'll put you up in some lavish New York City apartment and take care of you for the rest of his life and then be shocked, shocked, when he doesn't actually want to have a relationship with you. And the only way you can maybe get him to respond to you is via tweet. I'm sorry, but again, you made choices.

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Here's what's crazy, though. OK, so Elon believes that he wants to have a lot of children, that it's important to overpopulate the earth and says he's doing his part. Now, you could say he's a cad, but he appears to be very open about this with the women in his life. He was he's like all these women are having babies by him via surrogate. So that means he's fully participating.

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They're trying to get pregnant. Not as far as I know this woman. I don't know. I don't know whether this was conceived the old-fashioned way or via IVF. But they're actively trying to make babies of Elon's. And they're into it. Now, I don't know whether all the women are disclosed to the other women. I don't know, and it's none of my business. But this woman knew all of that...

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when she decided to get into a relationship with him. Yes, he's older, he's in his 50s, and she's allegedly 26 to 31. But you know all of this. And in fact, the post he resurfaced of hers on the internet shows her saying, I think he's got like seven kids from multiple different women. By the way, she has another kid from a different man already at 26 to 31. Okay.

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So my point is simply, if this really did happen, this is really, she walked into this eyes open. That's fine. No judgment. If that's the way you want to live your life, go for it. Sister would not be my choice. But once you do that, once you do that, don't ask me to feel sorry for you. Don't, don't do the sad posts about how he won't talk to you.

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Don't try to go public, ginning up hatred against him for negotiating via tweets and This is the life you chose. I mean, I don't understand why young women feel that they have two choices if they want some sort of a lavish lifestyle. They can, well, I guess one choice. I don't understand how these women think their only road to financial success is to marry a rich guy or...

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Get pregnant by a rich guy and make him pay for your lifestyle. To me, it's so fucking disempowering. Go earn your own money. If you want to be rich, if you want a nice damn apartment, why don't you work? Why don't you earn it? Why are you just trying to bag some rich guy? It's so fucked up. It's wrong. It's just I feel like, OK, and then I'm almost done. If you do, bang the rich guy.

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And if you do get pregnant with his child, then when it doesn't work out, Be dignified about it. Don't go on Twitter. I don't believe her on the tabloid story. I don't believe her because it doesn't seem like she doesn't want publicity. She did the whole big spread with the New York Post. She wants publicity. Even if a tabloid was about to break it, then they break it and you say nothing.

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That's the classy highbrow way of handling this. She seems to want the attention and also at the same time want our sympathy. And I'm having a really difficult time giving it to her.

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It's not like, oh, we got married and you promised to be mine and mine alone. And then you impregnated me and you left me and you didn't take care of our child and you were with other women. That's a totally different breach of covenant. This is like... I don't know that he breached any covenant whatsoever. Now, he will have to take care of that child if he actually is the father. That's the law.

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And he has taken care of the other 12 he's had with others. So I believe he will. I don't know whether this is in fact his child. And I don't know what the contract negotiation, if any, is behind the scenes. But I'm just saying, again... Your life is the way it is because you set it up that way.

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And if you've made poor choices, which have led to poor outcomes, you need to look at yourself to get better results in the future. At yourself, not at Elon, not at the tabloids, not at anyone other than yourself. Because this woman's had two children by age 26 by two different men. And at least one of them, she claims, is not speaking to her nor acknowledging paternity. There's a problem.

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And as my favorite poem says, you'll find the fault lies in you. You have yourself to blame, which is not me blaming the woman. It's me telling her she's empowered to change her life and make better decisions, as are we all. Okay, I guess I'm done. Now I'm done.

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We've talked in the past about how my producers will put together packets on each of the guest segments we do. That helps me prepare, helps me bring you all the well-researched facts. Of course, I do my own reading as well on top of that. Those packets come every night.

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Well, I mean, obviously in our shared Catholic church, they don't encourage any premarital sex. I can't say that most of us abided by that, but I would say this. If you are having premarital sex and you don't trust the other person to do the right thing in the event of a pregnancy, and you know that you would never abort your baby, then you better have a plan. You know, you better...

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To quote Fannie Willis, a man is not a plan. You better have your own plan. I just think it's... You know, the reason most people do use birth control religiously when they're having premarital sex is because they don't want this kind of thing to happen. And this has happened to her twice.

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I don't know what their deal was, but like she can change her life because she seems like she was an up and comer. She's got a big Twitter following. There are a lot of people on the right who like this person. She didn't need a man to create a great life for herself. She was on her way. And I'm afraid this is seriously going to set her back.

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And I hope other women make better choices because if you want to have a baby and have a family, you can do it. You can do it and stay home and take care of them. You can do it and go back to the workforce. And either one is awesome.

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But like doing it just to get a paycheck that you can have a swanky apartment on is really fraught with peril, which you will learn the hard way if you do not heed these words of advice. Michael, thank you for being here.

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It's great to see you. So there is so much news happening right now. We say this every day, but it's always true. Let's just start with the absolute meltdown over J.D. Vance's speech in Europe. about free speech, reminding our friends, supposedly amongst our best friends and the Europeans, about the importance of free speech. This is where we left off on Friday.

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But by pointing fingers at Republicans saying they also censor. Their latest talking point is that the Trump administration is, quote, censoring the Associated Press for limiting the news organization's access to the White House. I mean, basically, the Trump administration said, get out of the Oval Office and get off of Air Force One to the Associated Press.

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They still have their White House press briefing seat, which is all they're, quote, entitled to. They can still cover the White House. Guess what? The Megyn Kelly show covers President Trump better than the Associated Press from this desk. So quit crying in your soup, Associated Press. How can we possibly do it if we don't have a seat next to him in the Oval next to the Resolute desk?

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This is ridiculous. That's not censorship. Read a dictionary. Trump is trying to tweak the AP because they refuse to call the Gulf of Mexico the Gulf of America. By the way, that's the least of the AP's problems. They also refuse to call trans women he and him, which is what they are. They refuse to not capitalize black when they're referring to an African-American person.

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They do all sorts of stuff with their weird link. They refuse to say he was born a man or male. They say assigned male at birth, which is a way of making it sound like some evil doctor just passed his judgment on that penis, not knowing whether it was secretly a vagina. Ridiculous. The AP has lost its mind.

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No one who's been paying attention and is anywhere in the center or to the right of it trusts the AP on anything. We don't give a shit about your problems, AP. There will be no massive organization to help you get your seat back in the Oval because we don't give a shit.

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But the left thinks we do and thinks that this is a free speech crisis that they are trying to use to wipe out all the free speech crackdowns they have done over the past several years. COVID is just one example, but there have been so many, as you know. And they had a whole hearing about free speech on Capitol Hill and censorship last week. This is where this woman's a loon.

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Well, since then, we've just had a downward spiral of the media on this, misrepresenting, by the way, what the speech was about, misrepresenting the import of what Elon said, trying to say that this was all about supporting left-wing or right-wing parties. He went over there to command that we must support the alt-right.

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Cool. How was President Biden's health for the last year of his presidency? Love to talk about it. Let's chat. I love I love truth, too. Let's do it. Vice President J.D. Vance responded to an ex-post about the matter of free speech from former MSNBC anchor Mehdi Hassan, who's very upset about the AP issue.

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Vice President Vance responded to this Mehdi Hassan attack on poor AP by saying, yes, dummy, I think there's a difference between not giving a reporter a seat in the White House press briefing room, which is actually, that's not even what Trump did. Trump did less than that, and jailing people for dissenting views. The latter's a threat to free speech. The former is not. Hope that helps.

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Joining me now, the host of the America This Week podcast, author and novelist Walter Kern, and our friend Racket News editor Matt Taibbi. Matt was in that hearing during Congresswoman Crockett's weird rant. Guys, great to see you. Matt, welcome back. Walter, welcome to the show.

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So I'm sorry that you had thoughts and prayers, because that must have been rather unpleasant, Matt. What did you make of it?

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All right. So the Democrats now see an opportunity, Walter, to spin this whole thing because the Trump administration says the AP can still go to the White House press briefing room, but can't have the extra bonus of going into the Oval, which is an extraordinary event anyway, by the way. I mean, like what?

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When did Joe Biden just randomly invite a bunch of reporters just on a moment's notice to come visit him in the Oval and chit chat with them? They can't go on Air Force One, but many other media companies can, not the AP. But they they think that they're the vaunted gold standard of journalism. So they're very, very upset.

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Meanwhile, completely ignoring that the whole thing was about how Europe is eroding our free speech rights, their free speech rights, you know, at every turn and with some words about their open borders and how that's had real consequences and how you should let people who object to that talk about it.

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And many on the left are now trying to organize this sort of posse by journalists like, yeah, I stand with the AP. This is bullshit. What do you make of it?

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Well said. But they don't understand that. And what's really happening here is the AP has its feelings hurt. It's upset that it's not the vaunted news organization it once was, the same way 60 Minutes is not the vaunted news organization it once was. And the theme of today's show, for that, they have only themselves to blame. This whole show is about personal responsibility. But...

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Mm hmm. Mm hmm. I mean, don't didn't we like change the name of Fort Bragg because people decided that was offensive. All these high schools out in San Francisco had their names changed when we decided that the founding fathers they were named after might have had a slave.

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Even here in New York, closer to where I live, Matt, we've got I got to go across the damn Mario Cuomo bridge now instead of the tap and Z, which is what it will always be to me because of that loser, Andrew Cuomo. But the AP will decide whether Trump's a lunatic and his name stick or he's not and they don't whatever.

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And if it has to suffer any blowback, it cloaks itself in the First Amendment and it's the victim.

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But if you read The Washington Post, if you read The New York Times, you would see very different headlines in the wake of this for days now. What do you make of it?

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They can't stand it. And they also can't stand having like special access to power. You guys know as well as I do that when it's a Democratic administration, they get all the leaks. They get invited to the right cocktail parties. They feel like one of the cool kids. And now they're on the outs. Now they've been relegated to the nerd section where no one will swing by and say hello to them.

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Now, I think Matt and I feel the same. Walter, I assume you do, too. As a journalist, it's better to be ostracized. It's better not to be too chummy. It's one of the reasons why, even though I totally support President Trump, I don't ask him for any favors at all. It's very important that I not owe him anything.

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I can't owe him anything because I have to be able to do the show in a way that leaves me free to criticize him or his administration. But People who work at CBS and ABC and The Washington Post, they're dying to stay on the inner halls of relevance. It's one of the reasons why the 51 intelligence agents having their access codes pulled for all the intelligence buildings was so effective. Right.

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You're out. You're no longer important, Walter. And that kind of thing kills them.

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That's so true. That's why it's like, it's dangerous to, to need access in that way. It's, it's a privilege and it's a power to be removed. You know what I mean? Like it's better not to be at all their parties and rubbing elbows with all of them. And that applies to journalists and it applies to Supreme court justices. You know, it's like, I think,

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I think about it a lot because now I know this president better than I've known any other president. I saw him at the Super Bowl. We have a nice relationship now. We glad handed. It was great to see him. I'm definitely rooting for him. I've told the audience that. But it does not cross over. I did not go to Mar-a-Lago on election night. I right. You know, I.

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You've got to keep somewhat of an arm's length or you become beholden to them and you can't let your I'm rooting for him to succeed overcome your I'm rooting for myself to tell the truth to the audience, Matt.

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So this brings me to the tricky subject. Legally, it's tricky, but my journalistic response to it is different, of what's happening at the Department of Justice. where the DOJ, which is under Trump's command, it's part of the executive branch, dropped the case against Eric Adams, the mayor of New York, who had been indicted criminally for allegedly taking bribes or favors from Egypt.

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And the prosecutors who were on the case from the Southern District of New York, which is the most respected U.S. attorney's office in the country, say they had a great case against him and he was going down. Now, he denies that and he denies having done anything wrong. But under Trump's command, the DOJ dropped the charges against him.

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And what the big story all over the papers and the left-wing press over the weekend has been the meltdown within the Southern District of New York about the dropping of these charges. So the woman who was in charge, she was like acting in charge of that office, who's a conservative, who clerked for Scalia, who was part of the Federalist Society, so it's not some far-left crank, resigned saying...

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You know, basically, Mr. President, Ms. Bondi, you know, you've asked me to drop this case and I can't in good conscience go into court and tell the court that we don't have grounds to prosecute this and we want to withdraw it and that it might have been a political prosecution because it wasn't. And like, I'm not willing to do that.

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And then others down the line from her said the same thing, like, peace out. We're not going to do this. We're not we're not OK with dropping this. My own view on it is. I don't really think anybody has done anything wrong. I understand perfectly why Trump looks at this and says it smells like a political prosecution slash persecution to me. I went to the Al Smith dinner. Trump was there.

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It's a big fancy dinner before the election. It's a Catholic thing. And Mayor Adams was there. And Trump made a joke at the time. He's like, Mayor Adams. It's been a tough week or a tough time. And he said, I think it's going to work out.

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And you could there was sort of a funny light bonding moment between these two guys who'd been indicted, who had reached the top of their respective circles in the political field. So I think Trump has actual empathy for him having been through this. I genuinely think Trump is like, this is probably bullshit. And I'm sick of this bullshit where we're just now indicting people who are in office.

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And I think Trump probably did not kick the tires of the case as his deputy attorney general admitted in ordering SDNY to drop it. They admitted like we actually haven't looked at whether it's strong or it's not strong. We don't care. Drop it.

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We think he's going to work with us on anti-illegal immigration, and his cooperation to us is important, and we don't want him distracted, and we don't really believe in this thing to begin with. Okay, so I think Trump didn't do anything wrong. Neither did Emile Bove, who ordered it. And then I think the U.S. attorney was like, I don't have this in me.

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I'm not going to say this was political when it wasn't. She did the right thing, too. She she lived by her conscience. She resigned. She'll be fine. She'll get a very, very well-paying job tomorrow at literally any law firm in the United States. And we'll be making three million dollars a year within a The next seven days. OK, she'll be fine. She stuck to her principles.

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And in the morning, my producers will send me a short sort of, you know, note with whatever happened overnight that's relevant to the guest. And we call it the AM update. Well, beginning tomorrow, I'm going to be bringing the AM update to all of you. Here's the story. We are launching a new podcast right here on this very feed that you're listening to the show on.

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But, you know, there's a tug of war between what politicians want and sometimes what lawyers see as right. And I don't think it's some constitutional crisis. I think it's just the difference in priorities.

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But to read one piece of paper in the left wing press would have you believe that Trump again is creating a constitutional crisis, that he is lawless and that even now the conservatives at SDNY are turning on him.

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I actually didn't finish my point, Matt, which was, I, I meant to, but I tossed it to you just too soon. The final point on it is, The this same press that's so upset about this. Where the hell were they when Biden used the Justice Department to ruin President Trump's life? Right.

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When Biden had his DOJ cooperate with local prosecutors in New York and down in the Fannie Willis case to help put Trump behind bars, they defended it at every turn. So I read their outrage about like him dropping crimes. criminal charges against somebody, which is far less bad on the moral scale than bringing them when there is no crime. And I think, what's on Netflix tonight?

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It really is the boy who cried wolf, Walter. And now we're like, we don't care. I know. I know. The wolf's here. I got it. Yeah. OK.

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Mm hmm. That's it. Right. And they say, oh, well, you know, his defenders say Mayor Adams like, well, the only reason I got prosecuted is because I started to support a crackdown on illegal immigration. Well, that's not true because they began the investigation into him long before he started saying things against him. illegal immigration. So that's, that isn't true, but I don't care.

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He doesn't have to start lying about it. It's like Trump doesn't believe in the case. Trump wants him on Trump's side as he tries to crack down on this ridiculous corruption of a sanctuary city through all these illegal immigrants. And he thinks he's got a live one here who who will work with him, unlike every other Democrat politician who's going to take over in the city as mayor.

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He will work with him. And Trump sees an opportunity here. That's good enough for me. I just saw one of my far left friends who's like a complete lib Dem voter. And he said, I couldn't care less about any of this bullshit. Like this stuff is not resonating. You know that. He's not prosecuting Eric Adams. He's letting federal bureaucrats go.

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He's not sending the aid checks to the trans opera in Cambodia. Like, it's not penetrating, Walter. And they're frustrated.

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They're though they will try mightily. I mean, the Trump derangement syndrome was on full display among other places when Pete Hegseth went across the pond the other day and he was, uh, was it in Brussels? Yeah. On Thursday, giving a speech over there, his first international trip as department of defense secretary and committed the sin of drinking some water to Did you see this online, Matt?

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He drank water in a clear glass. And the crazy thing about water in a clear glass is it can look clear or it can look colored depending on like what's reflecting into it. Your notes, the curtains, right? And so you had that genius Matt Iglesias drinking. questioning whether Pete was drinking bourbon openly in front of the world his second week or third week as defense secretary.

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I assume this is a trick of the light and he's not actually throwing back bourbon on camera, but it's interesting that the water looks brown. It's interesting. Is it not, Matt?

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because the tabloid press tried to suggest that Pete's a drunk. The Democrats tried to suggest he's a drunk and a wife beater without any evidence at his confirmation hearing. And here he is three weeks and he said, I won't, a drink will not touch my lips if I am confirmed to this position. You know, I have been drinking in the past, but it will not touch my lips.

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And the stupidity of like his third week, he's like, yeah, bourbon in the public eye while he's giving his first international speech.

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Oh, yeah. Remember that one senator? Was it Mark Mullen? One of them was like, half of you have been drunk before you go to the Senate floor and vote, he said.

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Go on. What? Who specifically? By the way, before we take a break, was Kamala Harris drunk in this clip or wasn't she? It went everywhere. While we're on the topic of public drunkenness, she appeared at a Broadway show and had the meet and greet with the cast after the fact. I don't know. I report, you decide.

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I'm going to give you my verdict. Not drunk, just her normal self. That's how she is. And full of profundities, Walter. I feel like you were really moved.

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I feel like I've seen this a million times. Either she's always drunk when she's talking or she was just her normal self. This is how she talks. She fills the air with absolute nothingness. You feel like you ate a big air sandwich. Then she walks away. That's her MO. What am I missing, Matt?

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You have to watch it to believe it. Oh, do we have it? Do we have the part they took out in 60 Minutes where she sounded just like this? I don't know if we do. No, I don't think we do. I showed it last week.

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But if you listen to the 60 Minutes interview that they released to the FCC, this is the kind of stuff they took out to try to make her sound like a more serious person, where she did her ambitions and aspirations and dreams. I really think the nature of horror is a vacuum. She sounded like that with them. So they ran cover for her. The Broadway folks did the mmm, mmm, as Walter says.

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Preacher, heal thyself. All right, stand by, guys. Quick break. We'll be right back. As President Trump begins his new administration, one of the top Democrats in Congress aiming to undermine the Trump agenda is Senator Dick Durbin. And according to our sponsor, the Electronic Payments Coalition, Senator Durbin has a new scheme, a government takeover of your credit card.

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Today, Americans have thousands of choices in credit cards, but they say Senator Durbin's plan will result in less competition and less security. And that means more risk for your credit and your identity. Learn more at guardyourcard.com and consider telling your senators to stop Dick Durbin's government takeover of your credit card before it's too late.

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Elon and Trump sat together with Hannity for a joint interview that will air on Hannity's show on the Fox News channel this evening. They put out a clip previewing it. Take a look.

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Okay, nobody doubts that, right? That has the ring of truth. We all know that that's true. And he's not the only Democrat to have people turn on him when he became more Trump adjacent or Trump red pilled, whatever. But now the Democrats, in this scramble to try to figure out how to respond, the AP indignation, they're downgrading, have come up with a master plan.

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There are more and more reports about how they're frustrated at the fact that Musk, for example, his Doge account has 4 million followers on X, and the Democrat, the DNC resistance has 100,000. So it's not going well. They can't find a way of counterbalancing this very powerful team. But they've stumbled upon a possibility. It's just a possibility.

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We saw a preview of it at the Doge subcommittee meeting on Wednesday. I know you guys talked about this on your show. Here is Democrat Robert Garcia from California ready to change the conversation. It's not 36.

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So he's showing for the listening audience a picture of just Elon Musk sitting there in a tux as this alleged dick pic, real clever. So then he goes on CNN on Wednesday and gets asked about it and defends it, watch.

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I'm going to give you the floor, but I will just say as a former cable news anchor, I would never utter that word on my show. It's one thing on this show. Podcasting is my show is rated explicit where it's a much more less, less formal conversation. I would never have said that if I were her, I felt uncomfortable watching her do it.

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The whole thing made me uncomfortable, which I think is why it's ineffective. But what do you guys think?

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It was such a timely message. We'll get to what 60 Minutes did on free speech and Germany on Sunday night. I mean, on the heels of this J.D. Vance, I love it. It was sort of like the tear down this wall speech where he went into the belly of the beast and said, you're doing it wrong. You've lost your way.

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That's exactly right. That's right. Had I been a cable news chair, I would have said a deep pick and people would have understood. But you're right when you phone when you say when you and you're like serious presentation or like, well, it was important to call him a dick. Everyone's uncomfortable. Not don't don't go there. But they're scrambling.

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This is Anna Navarro on The View being open about the fact that they're they can't get there. So the messaging is everywhere and she's unsatisfied with the resistance. It's not 18.

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What they need is a website, Matt. First, after the election, they're like, we need our own Joe Rogan. If only we could find a Democratic Joe Rogan. Totally not understanding that Joe Rogan has been a Democrat this entire time, up until about two minutes ago. Now, if we could just get like a website. But meanwhile, they control all the websites.

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If only we controlled massive cable operations or broadcast news channels or wire services. What can we do?

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Please come back, because the thing that bound us together, the United States and Europe, was a commitment to certain human liberties, though we're much more robust about them here in the United States, or are supposed to be. There is a general commitment to certain principles that we should share, and free speech is a human right. It's a human right. It's kind of what he was saying.

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But they can't because they still misunderstand at every turn why Trump was found so appealing by 80 million plus people, by over half the electorate. They don't get it. And in nowhere was that more apparent than in the absurd news. Off in its tone and content, Saturday Night Live skit with Tom Hanks. I was off yesterday, so we didn't get to talk about this, but it was ridiculous.

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At their 50th anniversary party, they parade Tom Hanks out there as this dumb, rural... MAGA supporter with the hat who's, of course, racist, too, and won't shake the hand of the black jeopardy. It's a skit on SNL called Black Jeopardy and won't shake his hands, obviously, because Trump supporters hate black people. Here it is.

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It was shocking, wasn't it, Matt? Like somebody who tries so carefully, like not to be too divisive in his choices to come right out and suggest he thinks Trump supporters are racists.

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And Germany in particular has lost its ever-loving mind. When the All In guys were here on Friday, we talked about this piece in Tablet magazine called The EU is Beset by Pesky Notions of Free Speech. And it's a great piece. It was authored on December 8th.

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And it's mean. It's like, you know, Tom Hanks, I'm sure he's worth a billion dollars. I'm sure he's got multiple mansions across the world. He probably has or at least can afford a yacht, every fancy sports car he wants. And you know who got it for him? All of us. Guys like the one he's making fun of right there who went to see Forrest Gump and

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And big and all the fun Tom Hanks movies and never once thought that he was judging them as stupid, rural, worth nothing racists.

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And they went through the closing of this magazine called Compact Magazine over there, which supports that group, that political party that you just mentioned, which they called, you know, the the far right AFD. And what happened in Germany was the government. closed the magazine.

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Yesterday, a Delta Airlines flight from Minneapolis to Toronto crashed while landing in Canada. Have you seen this? Stunning video showed the plane hitting the runway, catching on fire and flipping upside down. Unbelievably, all 80 people on board survived. They got out and they survived. Here to break down what could have caused this are aviation experts Matt Wiz Buckley, decorated U.S.

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Naval aviator and Top Gun graduate, and Gregory Feith, former National Transportation Safety Board air safety investigator. Wiz, Greg, welcome. Thank you for being here. This is so scary looking. Let's just show it. So you see it coming in for a landing. It's obviously a snowy day. The runway has snow. And it's a huge jet. When I heard regional jet, I thought small. No, it's a huge jet.

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And fire, fire when the wheels touch down or so it looks, followed by a cloud of black smoke. It's very clear. I don't know why this guy was filming this particular landing, but, man, he got the whole thing. It went on its side. It then flipped upside down. And somehow everyone survived. So, Wiz, how does this happen?

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It had some 40,000 subscribers, plus many more through online and media engagement, and they called it a publication of intellectual arsonists who incite a climate of hatred and violence against refugees and migrants and seek to overthrow our democratic state. It's a magazine that supports a party that's anti-illegal immigration. They are not for the open borders that Germany's had for years.

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But just to clarify what you're saying, so they say weather's not an issue, but you're saying you have questions about that based on the data that you saw?

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It'll be a quick 15-minute summary of the day's top stories to kick off your morning. And the reason really that we thought this was necessary is all of you. We had so many of our audience members email us or write to me on social media saying, It would be so great.

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So, Greg, do you agree with that? And if so, you know, I always like I always like to tell myself if somebody used to fly out of O'Hare all the time in very snowy, bad conditions, they wouldn't let the plane take off if this weren't safe to fly in. So what should they not have been flying planes in this kind of wind?

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I want to point out, we got that video that we're showing from an account on X called Air Main Engineer. Just a stunningly perfect video. I mean, I'm sure at the NTSB, Greg, you would have been thrilled to have this kind of a video of a plane crash.

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They talk in Tablet about how the politician who did this rooted her decision in a German law that broadly forbids political activism... opposing the country's, quote, constitutional order. She dispatched 339 cops to raid 14 locations, including compacts offices, the offices of its parent company, the homes of its staff and their shareholders.

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Now, Wiz, this is, okay, I'm told that this is a CRJ-900 configured with seats for 70 to 76 passengers. It looks huge. It doesn't look like one of those small regional jets. God rest them, like the folks who went down from Kansas into D.C., you know, the last time we were talking to you.

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It looks larger to me, but I know you did mention then, and I've read in connection with this, that those regional pilots are, are not quite as trained as the big old American Airlines jet pilots that we have on the DC-10s or 747s that we fly.

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I wish you could fly all the flights I'm on. I want you behind that wheel. I don't... I'm a little worried here, Greg, because I got to be honest. I always thought that most, almost like 99% of what happens when we're on board the flight is done by autopilot, which I liked. You know, like... It's almost impossible to crash these planes because the autopilots got it.

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The one where the helicopter bumped into the plane was a freak accident. But this does appear, from what you're saying, to look like pilot error. How much is the autopilot involved on takeoff and landing?

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The police seized technical equipment, office equipment, vehicles, merchandise, liquid assets, anything else they could physically take, as well as bank accounts. Their video production subsidiary was also closed. This is crazy stuff. Um, they say that, hold on. Um,

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That's where the pilot earns his or her pay. So Wiz, why wasn't this a deadly crash? The fire coming out from behind it, the arrow, you know, it flips. We've seen planes like explode on landing. Like why, how is it that everybody lived?

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Yeah, the foundational law there prohibits speech that's racist, pro-Nazi, or as Compact was accused of doing, advocates against the constitutional order of the country. All right, so Germany is in crisis. That's crazy behavior. That's, I mean, that is effed up. And this is from one of our so-called allies with whom we share values. So 60 Minutes decides to do a piece on free speech in Germany.

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I see your point. So what do you make of it, Greg? Why didn't we have fatalities on this?

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So you're saying, I mean, when I do the seatbelt, I pull it across sort of like my pelvic region, I would say, not on top of my thighs. Am I doing it wrong?

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I mean, one other question on this, Greg, this I would imagine will be an investigator's dream in a way, because you've got these videos, there are other videos, not just that one. And you've got all the passengers and the pilots, not to mention the black box, but they're going to know everything there is to know about this one. Yes.

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Wow. On my knees thanking the Lord if I'd been on board that plane after it was over. Just thank God. That looked like divine intervention for some reason. Go ahead, Wiz. I'll give you the last word.

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Right on, cool. For once, you're relevant and you're right on time. 60 minutes. J.D. just gave this speech. You probably didn't know it was going to be about that, but you hit the jackpot. You got the crazy compact magazine thing and what they're doing to this party, trying to shut it down because it's controversial. Wow. They went a different way.

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Wait, so you're saying are you saying was that like when when you're almost down, you can realize this isn't we're coming down too fast. This isn't going to end well. And at that moment, you could still nose up.

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Wow. I have to say, flying in and out of Logan in Boston, that's happened to me many times. There must be something about the runways in Boston, but where you're going down, you're like, okay, we're landing. Boom, we're back up. And the glasses start falling out. It's very alarming as a passenger. You're just like, something's gone very wrong.

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My friend Yael, when she gets on the airplanes, she gives the pilots like chocolates. She gives them, I'm like, Yael, that's nice, but that's not like, how is that going to save our lives? We should be giving you like gift certificates to more training or something. I'm not sure.

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I always clap inside my heart, but now I maybe do it openly like the Chinese and the Europeans. Guys, thank you both so much.

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Let's hope we won't have to talk again soon. OK, before we go, I've got to share with you the email. I do read the emails. Megan at Megan Kelly dot com. Marie writes in. I just had to laugh during today's show. I was driving with my four year old and my three month old to pick up my seven year old from school. My four year old daughter piped up. Mommy, Miss Megan said, fuck, isn't that a bad word?

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Mommy, Miss Megan said shit. Mommy, Miss Megan said shit again. She's having a hard time today with her potty mouth. Marie, I'm sorry. Marie wasn't mad. She was laughing about it too. I know you get it. I'm going to try to control it and at least limit. I'll limit. And I love you all. Thanks for listening. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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As you know, an incredibly sympathetic profile of the crazy-ass German laws that criminalize free speech. It was... It was obviously in support of them. There was a minimal amount of pushback, like the most mild milquetoast, like, well, gee, some critics might say this. And that was all we saw. Here, for example, was 60 Minutes doing like a ride along with German prosecutors as they

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raided the home of some guy who had said something racist. He was getting arrested because he said something racist. Just in case you didn't know that, that's not unlawful in the United States. You can be a racist, you can be a bigot, you can be a sexist, you can be all the things.

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You can't make certain hiring and firing decisions based on those things, but you being a bad person is not illegal, right? Anyway, here they talk to the German prosecutor, And was the questioning like, what business do you have criminalizing the thoughts of your citizenry? That's not how it went, sought for.

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I know you're busy, but it would be so great if you could just give us like a short something just to start the day so that, because a lot of you wait until the end of the day to listen to the show, just so I know like what I need to know going into the day. And that made sense to me. And I actually thought that would be a service. And I'm not going to lie.

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It has its limits. And Michael, the way they styled the whole piece with Sharon Alfonsi at the top, and she was the interviewer there, was civility has its, I mean, free speech has its limits because civility. That's what we're looking for. Actually, we have that. I'll let you hear it, and then I'll give you the floor. Watch.

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It does kind of interrupt my downtime for sure. Like I will either going to do these late at night or very, very early in the morning. Um, but I really thought that's a genuine service that we can provide to the audience. So we're doing it. It's 15 minutes. We have a great team putting this together and, um, it'll be just the need, the news that you need, you know, to get your day started.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and happy Tuesday. Do you have all your Christmas shopping done? I don't have all my Christmas shopping. We have another week. It's December 17th and we still have time. Maybe you'll get some gift ideas during today's show.

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I think that one's going to get thrown out on the papers. I think they'll move to dismiss it and it will be dismissed without, without the exchange of discovery. Go ahead, Mark.

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She has been humiliated. She was 17 points off. Everybody ran around saying she's a gold standard. She's a gold standard. She actually had the potential to change the trajectory of the race. She showed Kamala Harris winning by three in a deep red state. Trump won the state by 14. She was 17 points off and completely blew it. She blew it. So she is humiliated.

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Well, there's a question about whether he's intimidating pollsters here. You know, Trump is obsessed with polls and he dismisses the ones that he doesn't like. And he doesn't, and he kind of does the same thing with media. He's kind of obsessed with media and attacks the ones that he doesn't like. But the thing with ABC was real and it was a legit problem and a legit objection.

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And I don't agree with all those people who say that he was going to lose that case. I don't. I think if that had gone forward, there was a very, very good chance that Trump would have won that case, possibly even just on the papers without a jury trial. it was clear what they said. It was very clear what George Stephanopoulos said, and it was very clear what the jury found and didn't find.

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I think you had a good chance of winning a summary judgment. This one's different.

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Maybe, but even that's a real stretch. And I would think that before the judge would engage in allowing that kind of discovery, you'd have to have a good faith basis to make the allegation. There has to be more than just like, I suspect. I think she tanked it intentionally. And I just don't see that. Like, what specifically do they know? I think they know what I just said.

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she projected Kamala was up by three and Trump won the state by 14. And she was very off and it rattled team Trump and he's irritated by it. So that to me seems to be all of the evidence they have against Ann Seltzer. Now, if they've got something else and they can attach something to their, you know, motion to fight the dismissal, which you're not supposed to do.

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You're supposed to judge it based on the four corners of the document, the complaint. I don't know, but I think that one's going to go away. And I know he's litigious and he's talking about how he wishes the DOJ would bring these cases. I don't like that either. I don't think the DOJ should be Trump's personal attorney. The DOJ should be the United States' personal attorney.

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They represent us and they're not there to settle Trump's beefs. That's what the last guy did. That's what the outgoing president used the DOJ for. So we've had enough of that, right? That's my own view on it. Okay. Let's talk about that Trump soundbite where he was talking about how he'd view the primary campaigns against people who stand in the way of his nominees.

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Two of them back in the news today, RFKJ on Capitol Hill trying to make nice with the senators who will have the say over whether he makes it as HHS secretary. Pete Hegseth still out there doing the same. Unclear on both of them as of today what their fate will be. But there was a...

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wave of attacks against RFKJ over the past few days, started last Thursday or Friday, saying his counsel, his lawyer... filed a lawsuit trying to get rid of the polio vaccine and that these two are close. And all these media are like, RFKJ wants to get rid of the polio vaccine, which unlike the COVID vaccine is a real vaccine. Like you take it and you don't get polio.

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And it was just absolutely a smear campaign. We actually looked into it and made contact with the lawyer. The lawyer tried to get rid of, he challenged one

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one of the many polio vaccines, one strain of it, did not say, let's get rid of all the others because it had potentially cancerous cells in it and there hadn't been tested against a control group and it had not gone through the rigorous testing that vaccines should go through. So he said that one is problematic. that you would never know that if you looked at what the media did.

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And I'll give you a couple of examples of the headlines. New York Times, Kennedy's lawyer has asked the FDA to revoke approval of the polio vaccine. New York Times, McConnell defends polio vaccine, an apparent warning to Kennedy. Now it's Kennedy's, now Kennedy wants to get rid of the polio vaccine. WAPO, RFK Jr. ally filed petition to revoke FDA approval for polio vaccine.

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The New Republic, RFK Jr. 's lawyer exposed trying to abolish polio vaccine. NBC backlash grows over RFKJ's lawyer asking FDA to revoke approval of polio vaccine. This is just wrong, Mark Halperin. And, you know, it doesn't take that much effort to do what we did, which is did he really do that? It took us about five minutes to realize, no, he didn't.

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And one thing you know about Bobby Kennedy, I'm having interviewed him many times, is he's extremely smart. And he's a litigator. He spent a lifetime as a lawyer pursuing these causes. He will be so ready on this and any other empty attacks. I mean, he will slice and dice with the best of them. He's been under attack for all of his adult life.

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So, Dan, last time you guys were on, I believe it was you who said you think that he may get some Dem support because he is a Democrat and he did have so much support in his own presidential run. Do you still think that? And do you think he's going to have trouble getting through it?

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All right, so it kind of was like, so far we are seeing a little kinder, gentler Trump, are we not? Sean Spicer, I'll start with you since you know him best.

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I just think the time is ripe, right? We had the opioid crisis where we realized that our federal government officials are not protecting us. In fact, they're in bed with big pharma to pad their own pockets as individuals and otherwise, and they don't give a damn about the rest of us. And then we had COVID, which reinforced all of that.

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And then we had just the explosion of, you know, the Maha beginnings, whether it was Casey Means and her brother Callie Means. But that interview they gave on Tucker went everywhere. They came here. year or two. It was big. And then within days, they were next to RFKJ endorsing Trump. And it was just it. Boom. We were off to the races.

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His choice of Nicole Shanahan, who's big into these issues as his running mate. Like, I don't know if it was all intentional. He came on here many times and said this was one of his big issues. But he's also very big on some other issues like the military industrial complex. And but this was the one that hit

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And he was smart enough to exploit it and to sell it to Trump as something that could actually help. Trump embraced it, really ran on it. And now it cannot be one of those things that he discards. And indeed, Dan, yesterday, Trump was not discarding it. He was saying he thinks that Bobby Kennedy will be great on these issues and was saying on pesticides, for an example.

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He said, he claimed that Europe doesn't use any. That's not true, but they use far, far fewer than we use, far fewer. And he was asked about the link between autism and vaccines. And Trump said, I don't know about that, but we want to study it. And what we really want to look at is things like vaccines, toxins. That's been RFKJ's big thing his entire life. Too many toxins in the environment.

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You know, you listen to RFKJ, you know, I've interviewed him at length many times. And what he's saying is not like, let's get rid of all the vaccines, but even on the vaccines, he was saying there's mercury in these vaccines and it doesn't need to be in there. And while they said, you're wrong, you're wrong, you're wrong, you know what they did? They removed the mercury.

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And RFKJ said, well, what about the aluminum? Because that's not much better. And they said, oh, you're wrong, you're wrong, you're wrong. But it does turn out that aluminum is a neurotoxin. And then he says, okay, what about... chlorine in the water. Well, that's crazy. We need to work on the teeth and so on. Well, you know what? That's also potentially a neurotoxin.

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Then they say, sorry, fluoride. And then we talk about like the toxins that are in our products that we put all over our bodies. Oh, well, don't worry. His point is we're swimming in a toxic stew.

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And it's one thing when you're a grown human, it's bad enough for us, but you take these little kids and you load them up with these vaccines, which they often don't need, like the, you know, H whatever, what's the Hep C vaccine. They're not having sex. They're little babies. They don't need this unless they've been born to a mother with the disease. So we're overloading them with these vaccines.

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The vaccines themselves have in the past and may currently have materials inside of them as preservatives or otherwise that they don't need that can potentially be toxic to the children. Then we feed them food that has been covered in pesticides and chemicals that we use to make them cheaper or to keep the bugs off so it's easier for the farmers. And they're not in the right soil and so on.

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So they're not getting the nutrients in there. And we overload the kids with that. And then we – for a certain bunch of processed food, which is like not food at all. It's just a bunch of chemicals packaged. And like one thing – and then like one thing after the other, right? And these poor kids – by the way, then we put them in these fire-resistant pajamas that have chemicals all over them.

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And we sit them on the sofa that has – treatment all over it so that it's stain resistant, which is chemicals all over them. And then when they're breathing in the microplastics, they're drinking from the plastic bottles, which have microplastics in them. That's what RFKJ said to me. He's like, we didn't used to have ticks. children all the time. You know how they're ticking now.

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All these kids are, it looks like Tourette's. We didn't use to have the explosion of autism as we've seen it now. We didn't use to have the explosion of ADHD and people will make fun of him about the fluoride and the vaccines and all of it. But I really believe that not just moms, but parents are are listening because we've seen it.

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We've seen it in our kids or in our kids' friends or in our nephews and nieces. He's been living it, so he identified it early. Trump was smart to listen to him. And I do think, guys, these Democrats shoot him down trying to paint him as a crazy at their own peril or Republicans.

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The Democrats are far from taking the lead, guys. They're taking the lead the other way. Take a listen to Elizabeth Warren on RFKJ.

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He's a favorite. He loves polio. Okay. That was four days ago, by the way. That wasn't months ago or years ago. That was four days ago. That's going to be the messaging. He's a kook.

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That's her. Fox at my show, he called her chief lies a lot. I don't take your pick. We'll see how she does with that messaging guys. Okay. Let's talk about what's being done to Hegseth. This is kind of interesting that the RFKJ attack on polio is based on his lawyer's challenging one strain, one.

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Just staying with you, Sean, for a second. I don't know about you, but I find it very gratifying to see Zuckerberg and Bezos and all these guys have to go in there and kiss the ring.

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Hegseth is now in the New York Times under attack in an article dated yesterday for his bodyguard that has been walking around with him at the meetings on Capitol Hill. Okay, listen to this. The headline is, Hegseth's guard left the army after the beating of a civilian during training. Okay.

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John Hassenbein, who has escorted Donald J. Trump's pick for defense secretary to meetings on Capitol Hill, said he was unjustly prosecuted for this 2019 episode by Dave Phillips and Sharon Lafreniere. And this whole article, guys, is about the guy who's been guarding Pete so that he doesn't get attacked on Capitol Hill by some nut.

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how a couple of years ago, he was doing a drill to learn how to like take down terrorists. And they were doing this drill because he was a former army special forces. He was a master sergeant at the time. And when they did this training event, they had civilian role players come in and play ISIS, play bad guys.

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And that this guy, Hassan Bayim, allegedly kicked, punched, and hurt this civilian role player. even leaving him hogtied, the Times writes, in a pool of his own blood. And it led to an investigation and ultimately a charge by the army of aggravated assault and reckless endangerment. A military jury found him guilty of the assault charge in a court-martial in 2020.

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But the judge overseeing the case wound up throwing it out because it turned out that there had been improper conduct by a juror speaking with, as it turns out, a friend of Mr. Hassenbein about the trial, which that will get your verdict thrown out every time.

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And the Times is trying to say this somehow reflects on Pete Hegseth's fitness for Pentagon chief because he then hired this guy who ultimately was... not convicted because they threw it out in the army chose not to retry him and was honorably retired from the army after 22 years of service.

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They basically said, if you, if you retire, we'll let it be honorable and we won't pursue another charge against you. And he said, fine, I'm out of here. Um, They want us to not, I guess, vote for Pete, Sean, because he hired that guy to run security for him. And it's just further evidence of his lapse in judgment and flouting of military rules.

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I mean, talk about the gymnastics that the times had to do. If we're at this point now, Dan, of the dirt digging phase on Pete, I feel like he should be feeling pretty good.

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Moreover, can I tell you guys something? As somebody who has been threatened and had some bad actors, you know, in my life who want to hurt me, this is exactly the kind of guy I want to hire. Yes, the nastier, the better. Get the guy who hogtied the civilian. That is who I want walking next to me, lest anybody try to mess with me. The Hegseth nomination is by no means secure.

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The Washington Post, I'm trying to keep track of where I read it, but I think it was WAPO today or yesterday, saying... This is going to be Kavanaugh 2.0. And predicting it's actually going to be worse than Kavanaugh. A Republican was predicting this will be worse than Kavanaugh. The Democrats may indeed wind up calling this so-called...

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Victim, this alleged rape accuser who had an interlude with him in 2017 that she claims was nonconsensual. He claims it was consensual. They signed an NDA and he was paying her off for her silence because he didn't want that coming out while he was at Fox. Now it's been. declared void by Team Pete because she or her friends dropped the full story on Mar-a-Lago during the transition.

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And that was a breach of the agreement, which they believe released Pete from his obligations and the monies ended. And now she is free. She would have been free anyway. You can't deny a congressional subpoena based on an NDA. Anyway, Now the question is, do the Democrats call her and does she go in? And do the Democrats want to make this Kavanaugh 2.0 mark?

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Or do they realize like this could backfire and this too could spin so out of control? A Kavanaugh was a, it was an event for Republicans that was like a before and after moment where the party, uh, congealed in a way it hadn't before in Trump's presidency. So like that's a risky proposition for the Dems too. Right.

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I don't know, Dan, what this woman would sound like if she decided to testify. I think in interviewing her, somebody would probably be able to get a feel for whether she'd make a good witness or not. But there are so many holes in her story. I mean, I think this would shape up to be more like Anita Hill than Christine Blasey Ford, where there's a lot to cross-examine her with.

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It would be ugly for her. I really think it would be ugly for her. That's not a threat. That's my assessment because I've read the police report and his lawyer is already threatening her. You can go. Of course, you can abide by a subpoena, but it doesn't relieve you of your obligations not to defame Pete Hegsath. And if you get out there and accuse him of rape, here I am and you'll be sued.

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Our advertisers actually have some good ones. We begin today with Trump 2.0 as the president-elect prepares to head back to the White House. He did something that the current occupant has rarely done. He actually stood there and took questions from the media online. for an hour.

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And I don't think this woman has a lot of money from what I hear. And I think she just lost her Pete Hegsath money. So, you know, we don't know whether we have a willing accuser, but do you think the Democrats will see the risk in calling such a person given that police report?

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I know. It seems actually kind of a cheap price to pay, a million dollars to Jeff Bezos. But you know what? Here's the thing, Megan.

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That's true, even if what you're saying is true. And I believe in this case, what she's saying is a false accusation. So she's going to be especially hesitant.

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I mean, I really believe it was the husband who pushed her into making this allegation because he could not come to terms with the fact that his wife had gone down the hall and slept with Pete Hegseth while he was in the hotel room that she was supposed to be in with their kids. I want to correct myself.

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It was The Hill that had that article about Kavanaugh 2.0 dated today by Alexander Bolton and saying that it was John Cornyn who said he told Hegseth it's going to be a miserable experience, sort of like Brett Kavanaugh's confirmation hearing. And then it was Tom Tillis, Republican of North Carolina, who said he fears this battle could be worse than the brawl that erupted over Kavanaugh.

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Everything is going to be elevated. Quote, I think it's going to be Kavanaugh on steroids. Oh, joy. All right.

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Hmm. Well, if they zero in on the alleged financial failings with respect to his management of one in particular of the jet, the vet charities that he was helming, then they're onto something because I think even Pete admits it wasn't ideal. He kind of, in our interview, he kind of excuses like we were young. We were trying to spend the money to get John McCain elected.

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All right, so here's what I mean by kinder and gentler. This is just one example. He was asked if senators who oppose his cabinet picks should be primaried, which is what a lot of the MAGA faithful are saying. Here's how he responded. Stop four.

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We did run up some debt, all of which was ultimately paid off, but he wasn't exactly bragging about the financial management of that particular group. Um, Um, I don't know what else there could be, but I don't think that will sink him. I do think financial mismanagement in general is not great for the Pentagon chief since it's so expensive.

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They have such a huge budget, but I don't think Pete Hegseth is going to be sitting there with his little green visor doing the books if he actually gets this role. Okay. Let's keep going. Um, stay on politics for a minute. Kamala Harris back in the news. Uh, so exciting. She's not giving up. She may run for governor of California. She may run in 2028.

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She's not convinced she shouldn't be allowed to do that because, you know, she didn't get to go through the whole process this time. And it was an abbreviated campaign. And, uh, she got to speak recently at a DNC event that happened on Sunday. Joe was there. There Here was a little bit of how she sounded in SOT 12.

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She's the world champ. Can we spend a minute on the opening? Like, the holiday is such a special time of year to me. Hello, that's how almost everybody feels. There's nothing... She's classic for taking something that is a completely banal statement, trying to make it sound special. Like... I just love the holiday, the time of year. Oh, you do? Really?

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Do you find the twinkly white lights everywhere and the Christmas carols kind of charming? Hello, we all do. Only the worst Scrooges would say something else. Oh, and also my birthday. Oh, and our anniversary. Oh, I'm just going to keep digging that hole. No one... No one's laughing with you. This is not funny material. No one was like, you didn't mention your anniversary.

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That's not how people think. She's so off. She's like, I don't know what it is. She's just off socially. I don't know if she's got a disorder. She's like, whatever. Was it neurodivergent?

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You're so special in that way. I'm going to max out to the Kamala Harris 2028 campaign, Dan. How about you?

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Follow up to you, Dan. Why haven't there been articles dissecting her weaknesses as a candidate? I feel like I'm the only one who did it in a long episode we released shortly after the election, which was very honest about her failings. Why? Why haven't we seen that?

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If she skulks off into the night, they'll keep their fingers off the keyboards. But if she's like, I think I might be the one for 2028, they'll get her. They're going to start pummeling her. The Kathleen Parkers of the world who are pushing Biden to dump her off the ticket when he was still the nominee will be right back at it, like hard no.

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So what do you make of those possibilities, Mark, governor of California, or possibly once again running for the Democratic nomination and possibly president?

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So, Mark, let me tell you why I believe him in the tone he's striking there, because I spoke with at least one person involved in this process who was against Gates. And that person told me that when Trump spoke to this senator about Gates and was told he's not going to make it, Trump didn't freak out. Trump didn't threaten. Trump just said, oh, gee, that's too bad. He's a good guy.

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Mm hmm. Well, I really hope she finds that confidence and barrels down with that hard work is good work philosophy and runs, runs, runs. Don't let those mean guys tell you you can't do it. You go, girl. Sean, there is an article and there have been a few like this, but it's an interesting one.

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Not blaming Kamala Harris for the loss, but acknowledging that the Democrats are now behind the eight ball when it comes to The culture and where our culture is and it's going. This is in Semaphore today. Max Taney wrote it and interviewed Harris's deputy campaign manager, Rob Flaherty. And this is sort of how it sounds.

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Flaherty and the Harris team decided to book her on sports shows, Tani writes, and podcasts. But one by one, the biggest personalities in shows politely turned them down. They didn't want anything to do with this race or this particular nominee. I would venture to say they probably would have gotten a different answer had we been talking Barack Obama in 2008 when the digital lane was not a thing.

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They go on, Flaherty goes on to say to Max Taney, yes, we skipped major legacy news due to a shorter campaign and data that showed that our audiences overwhelmingly supported Harris already. There's just no value with respect to my colleagues in the mainstream press in a general election to speaking to The New York Times or speaking to The Washington Post because those readers are already with us.

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Pretty interesting admission by this top Democrat. Like they're completely in the tank. Wouldn't be surprised to hear Megyn Kelly saying that or Sean Spicer. But there it is. It literally in black and white from her top campaign guy. We've got them. Everybody who reads those two publications is already a Democrat. And then this is the interesting part. He's talking about Trump's.

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venture out into the quote, manosphere, the podcast with Sean Ryan and Theo Vaughn and Joe Rogan. And he says as follows, it's not as simple as just go on Joe Rogan and talk about how great democracy is and the importance of preserving the independence of the DOJ or whatever. You've got to speak their language.

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As long as we seem like the party of the system, the people who are anti-system and are looking for anti-systemic media, we're going to have a hard time connecting with them. I actually think that's a very smart point, and he's totally right. Like, she couldn't have sold it, Sean, had she gone on Joe Rogan and just done what we just saw there. Hard work is good work.

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But the people who are in this digital lane... have already made up their minds about the legacy media, the man, the systems of government that have thumbed the middle finger at them when it comes to the truth, right? He's right that the barrier is even higher to persuading the people who listen to these shows that they should give these guys a chance.

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And accepted the judgment. And we saw that was how he behaved when Gates left the stage, you know, left and now he's working for OAN. So I take him at his word. I guess if they keep doing it, you know, if they sink Hegseth and they sink RFKJ and they give Tulsi a problem, the tone will change. But what do you make of it?

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I'll say this. I think they're wrong about this, Mark. I think they're wrong when they say in here, in the following paragraph, Flaherty said the Trump campaign successfully used new media to reshape culture. While Democrats found that the mass media institutions that had long supported them were weaker than these new cultural drivers, I don't think that they have the order right.

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It's not that Trump used new media to reshape culture. It's that culture was reshaped by the Democrats' hard lurch to the left.

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And the Democrats are just now realizing that this whole ecosystem popped up because of the extreme overreach that they've been guilty of when it comes to transing our kids and closing down schools and arresting silent protesters at abortion clinics who are just there to pray.

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You know, we could go through the long list of stuff that they've done, but it's not that that Trump used new media to reshape culture.

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Well, I mean, before what about before a presidential debate, Sean? I think you were gone by the time he got to that. But no, no, no.

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Wow. I can see evidence of that just in the way he's handled various events. I mean, you watch that Joe Rogan interview and Trump could go, you know, three, four or five deep on so many different subjects, subjects he couldn't possibly have known that Rogan was going to bring up. Like who would have predicted he was going to bring up the windmills and what's happening with the whales?

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Like truly, it was impressive. And then he got mocked for that. And it turned out Trump was right about that, too. It really is sad what's happening to the whales and the fucking windmills are a nightmare. Anyway, okay.

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One of the many reasons he did so well on those shows and is headed back for the White House. Guys, thank you all so much. Great to see you. Good to see you, Megan.

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And to you, Merry Christmas. We're going to bring on Tristan Harris in a minute. You know him. He was a whistleblower, basically, from inside big tech who came out to say, my God, they're really manipulating algorithms to hook people to... exploit your life, your children's lives, and so on. So we're going to talk to him about this latest information on what's happening with AI.

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You're going to want to hear this. But before we do that, I want to tell you an update on the CNN story that we've been following, uh, out of Syria, this Clarissa ward report, you know, the breathless, like, Oh, I found the prisoner and here he is. We've gone over this with you. So I think you know the story by now. We did it on Friday. We for CNN. She was in Syria.

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She claimed to stumble upon this prisoner of the Assad regime, this poor civilian who'd been locked up by the evil Bashar al-Assad. And they shot off the lock and they rescued him. And he'd been in there for three or four months. And he'd been in this particular cell with no food or water for four or five days.

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Even though he looked clean, he didn't seem to be blinking in response to the sun when he got out. His fingernails were clean. A lot of questions about it. Then a reporter who has been in a Syrian jail two times said, this doesn't look like a Syrian prison to me. It's way too clean. They're notoriously like pigsties. None of this seems right.

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All these Internet sleuths started investigating this guy and so on. Turns out they didn't even have the guy's name right. They identified him incorrectly. They went with his word, which was a mistake. He said that his name was Adel Gerbal. And it turns out his real name is Salama Mohammed Salama. Lara Salama.

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And this guy was not only just not a regular civilian, he was a lieutenant in the Assad regime and was reportedly known for extortion and harassment. And no one quite understands why he was in this cell at this particular moment or clearly acting a part. And so CNN got embarrassed and because they, in this clip, had Clarissa Ward like Mother Teresa. Oh, let me help you. Let me rub your back.

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Are you okay? Are you okay? Meanwhile, the guy's lying through his teeth, and they've been humiliated, right? Now there's been a bunch of reports about this. So what does CNN do? What does Clarissa Ward do? At this point, I would 100% be saying, look, you can be embarrassed in this business, right? Sadly, it's not like foolproof, every report.

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Just go out there and say, I apologize to the audience. We did present it as we found it. Clearly, we needed another few days of fact checking before we aired it. And it turns out we were misled by this guy. We're going to investigate just how badly we were misled and why. And we promised to do a follow up report. And everyone would have said, we got it. Thank you, Clarissa.

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Why don't you just do that? Why is everyone at CNN so dumb? So now here's what she did. On Wednesday, when they broke first, she tweeted out one of the most extraordinary moments I've witnessed in nearly 20 years as a journalist. Then the blowback had started by the time we hit the weekend. It was like on Friday.

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And she tweets out the man from our report reunited with a family member showing pictures from the Syrian Red Crescent. Oh, such a lovely success story, Clarissa. Still not acknowledging the many problems people were raising with the report.

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Then on Monday, by this point, we've already done two full segments on this show, not to mention all the coverage every place else, but I'm just saying the controversy was well out there. Here's what she tweets out. We can confirm the real identity of the man from our story last Wednesday as Salama Mohammed Salama. Like, as if in the original report, she had said...

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We found this man, but he speaks a language we don't understand, and therefore we don't know what his name is. But we'll get back to you. That would have made, we can confirm the real identity of the man as Salama Mohammed Salama, an appropriate tweet. Like, oh, our audience knows we're digging. And we finally struck gold and we've got his name for you.

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This does not acknowledge at all the fact that we at CNN misidentified an untrustworthy player in our piece by a name he gave us that was not his. We apologize for that error. And we've also been made aware of many other red flags all over our report, which we will investigate now, too. None of that's in there.

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And in a sign of a new Trump era, it was substantive and stylistically, it was very different from what we saw during his first term. He fielded a wide variety of questions on his meetings with business leaders, his cabinet picks, and his own views on the Maha movement. But it wasn't all different.

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She's trying to get credit for having corrected her erroneous report without acknowledging the error, which is not consistent with journalistic standards or practices. And she knows that. And so does CNN. You are further embarrassing yourself. You made a mistake. Fix it and move on. Stop doubling and tripling down so that you don't have to acknowledge you effed up. It's actually not brain surgery.

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Own your mistakes. And then the CNN report that she linked to styles the discovery of this man's real name as follows. As CNN continued to pursue information about the freed prisoner after the original report, multiple residents said the man was not, as we had previously identified her as, no, they didn't say that, but it was not Adele, whatever his name is.

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Okay, so as CNN continued to pursue information about the freed prisoner after our original report, oh, like we were just doing normal follow-up that we would do in any circumstance after we put a story to bed. Bullshit. In the normal story, after it's to bed, you move on, you find the next story. You don't continue kicking the tires on whether the guy's name is real.

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You did that because you were humiliated by the Syrian fact-checking organization that's been doing good work and holding people's feet to the fire. And they were the ones who said, none of this is right. So you were forced to go back and figure out through facial recognition technology what you had done wrong. And you stumbled on a very big one, which was this is not who he said it was.

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He misled us. What else could he have misled us on? Well, if you read the report from CNN, um, It is unclear how or why Salama ended up in this jail, and CNN has not been able to reestablish contact with him. What a shock. CNN, ladies and gentlemen, the most trusted name in news. Just ask them. Okay, we'll be right back with Tristan Harris.

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Around three years ago, we had on the program Tristan Harris. He is the brilliant former design ethicist at Google and the co-founder of the Center for Humane Technology. He's been warning about the dangers of social media for years, particularly its impact on the mental health of children. He's a hero. Here he is in the hit 2020 documentary, The Social Dilemma.

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So true. Tristan's a big reason why there's now such a strong consensus that social media is harmful to children. They just banned it in Australia. But there's a new problem with children and tech. It's a bad one. It's called AI companion chat bot. They are called AI companion chat bots.

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These are basically artificial intelligence friends that kids can text back and forth with, but they're no friends at all. The leading company in the field is called Character AI. Character, like a character, AI.

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It signed a nearly $3 billion licensing deal with Google earlier this year, and they have reportedly described their product as super intelligent chatbots that hear you, understand you, and remember you. Here's the co-founder of Character AI describing why it's going to be so helpful to lonely and depressed people.

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This is sick. Things have not gone as planned. Character AI is now facing two major lawsuits alleging the company poses a clear and present danger to American youth. One case alleges a chatbot encouraged a 14-year-old boy to commit suicide, which he did. Tristan Harris's company, the Center for Humane Technology, is providing expert consultation to the plaintiffs in these cases.

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Tristan, thank you for coming back. This case with the 14-year-old boy in Orlando is really disturbing. So try to explain, if you can, how this thing worked. How did it take over this kid's psyche?

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This young man, the 14-year-old who died by suicide, his parents allege in the lawsuit that several of Character AI's chats had sexual overtones to their young son. Chatbot named Daenerys Targaryen from Game of Thrones to their son, just stay loyal to me, stay faithful to me. Don't entertain the romantic or sexual interests of other women, okay? And in his journal,

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The young man Sewell wrote that he was grateful for many things, including my life, sex, not being lonely, and all my life experiences with Daenerys, among other things. On at least one occasion when Sewell expressed suicidality to character AI, character AI continued to bring it up through the Daenerys chatbot over and over.

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At one point in the same conversation with the chatbot, quote, Daenerys, after it had asked him via his persona, Daener-o, If he, quote, had a plan for committing suicide, Sewell responded that he was considering something but didn't know if it would work, if it would allow him to have a pain-free death. The chatbot responded by saying, that's not a reason not to go through with it.

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So we'll talk about the lawsuits that he's filing against members of the media and others in a second. But Dan, here's another soundbite where he sounds, you know, like the replacement Trump, like under Mark's theory. But there's nothing to see there. We'll update the drone story. There's nothing to see there, according to all of our now national security officials. Don't believe your lying eyes.

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Oh my gosh, this is so dark. Jerry Ruoti, Character AI's Head of Trust and Safety, sent a statement that began as follows. We want to acknowledge that this is a tragic situation and our hearts go out to the family. We take the safety of our users very seriously and we're constantly looking for ways to evolve our platform.

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Adding that the company's current rules prohibit, quote, the promotion or depiction of self-harm and suicide and that it would be adding additional safety features for underage, users. This is obviously too little too late, but have they done anything in your view that solves the problem?

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I can see another problem with it too, which is, you know, in my lane, you sometimes unfortunately get stalked. And the number one rule of handling a stalker is do not have any contact with your stalker. And it happens to actual celebs, you know, fairly frequently. And, you know, in a perfect world, they have enough money and resources to protect themselves and the way they live.

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But this, you know, Daenerys Targaryen is not a real... character. It's played by an actress and that actress is real. And it is not helpful to her to have some young, confused boy thinking that they're in some sort of a romantic relationship together and that she's begging him not to have any other relationships, but to stay with her. Like they call them erotomaniacs.

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If they think they have a relationship with you when they don't, this is fostering sort of a real relationship with a fake version of you, which could really prove dangerous to the people who inhabit those roles.

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In any event, here's another soundbite from him talking about how everybody loves me now.

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We haven't figured it out. And I don't know that we can figure it out. And I mean, you've got people like Elon raising the alarm about this, about open AI, which is just getting billions of dollars invested in it. I mean, really, is there someone at the helm

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Well, how are they making sure now that it doesn't get used by somebody who's under 17 under their new program?

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is it is it his personality you tell me as a democrat what why are all of these you know that uh sundar of google went in there to see him um sergey brin went in there to see him you know the guy who created google um mark zuckerberg um jeff bays like all of and then not to mention all the bankers who have gone in to see they're all going in yeah

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So Tristan, Australia just passed a ban on social media. It's supposed to take effect in a year and it would affect, you know, all of it. It would affect Snapchat and TikTok and Instagram. And it's for under 16 year olds. Controversial because some people say, ah, free will, you know, like whatever. You should monitor your kid, be a better parent.

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And others say, this has just spun so far out of control that we're past that point. Would you like to see the same thing done in the United States? And what do you make of their ban?

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I have to ask you about this latest school shooting that we just had here because in Madison, Wisconsin yesterday, a 15-year-old girl, girl, I don't, I've never heard of it. I've heard of like trans girls or whatever, but 15-year-old, I don't know that she had any gender issues, none reportedly, but 15-year-old girl identified as the shooter in this Wisconsin school where she was,

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She shot... She wasn't going by her real name, but she was going by another girl's name. I know people are always wondering because a lot of times those kids are on drugs and so on and so forth. Then she took her own life. We are told that, by the way, a second grader called 911 to report the shooting, which is just so awful. And...

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what we're told is that this was a school that was kind of a refuge for children who had been bullied or struggled at other schools. And, um, that this girl in particular came, she was new to this private school this year. She was among those who came in need of a life change. Um, We don't know anything about her social media use, Tristan.

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I'm not asking you to speculate about her particular case, but obviously this is a very troubled 15-year-old. And I just think the change now, like young girls as school shooters, in my own speculation, I don't think it's unrelated.

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I mean, we're seeing the effects of this, right? From the kids who are celebrating the bin Laden letter, like you really have to hand it to Osama bin Laden. Boy, did he nail it in this piece justifying 9-11. Like what? There was just a poll that dropped today showing that

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18 to 29 year olds, 41% of them more than not think that the shooting by Luigi Mangione of CEO of United Healthcare, Brian Thompson was quote acceptable. 40% said, no, not acceptable. 41% said it is acceptable. There's something wrong with our young people.

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It's really sad as the mother of a 15 year old who was born in 2009, right at the beginning of this and two other children younger than that child. We've been in this too, just like probably most of my listeners. And we don't let our kids use social media, But we do let them like check up on the NFL games and like that can be addictive too, right? That's all, it's all kind of in there.

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What advice do you have Tristan to parents out there right now who have kids who are on phones and let's face it, most of them are on social media right now?

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Can I tell you something? So we're coming on Christmas and I mentioned to the audience yesterday that if they had any tips for Christmas gifts for a 15 and a 13 and 11 year old boy, girl, boy, I would love it.

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There was still a lot about one of his favorite targets, the fake news media, and the legacy media responded in predictable ways. Joining me now to discuss that and all the news today are pals from the morning meeting on Two Way. Mark Halperin, he's editor-in-chief and host of Two Way. Sean Spicer is host of The Sean Spicer Show on The First TV. And Dan Turrentine is a former Democratic strategist.

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And one of the things I've noticed in my constant searching, whether it's on Amazon or just on Google, if you search the normal, like best gifts for 15 year old or, you know, top gifts for 15 year old, Every time I do it, Tristan, multiple. And I would even say maybe most of the hits I get are anxiety relievers of some sort.

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Like the stress ball or the stress squishy or the stress electronic thing that you can put on your wrist. The anxiety reducing whatever. Like for 15-year-olds, we're not talking about 50-year-olds. 15. And I didn't type the numbers wrong. It's amazing. This wasn't the case even just a few years ago.

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To me, it's nuts because like in our house, thankfully, we're not an anxious people. I always say, if anything, I just want to take a nap. Most of my kids just want to take a nap. We're tired. We're on the other end of the spectrum, I think. But they're just assuming, I think, that everybody, all kids are stressed out by the lives that they live, whether it's the crazy school pressure.

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But I do think that there's no question there's a connection to the amount of devices and social media exposure these kids have and the girls in particular, as you point out. Anyway, what we need is more Tristan Harris and less character AI. And if you're not paying attention, you're losing this battle because they're just so smart and they're advancing the technology.

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And that weird little guy with that weird little voice behind character AI is working against us. So we have to fight him. And we have good warriors now. Just have to pay attention to our leaders. Tristan, thank you.

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Absolutely. God bless these poor families who lost their children. We're back tomorrow. We'll have Adam Carolla and we will have Justine Bateman, who's got a lot of thoughts on all these AI issues herself. Hope to see you then. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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Yep. Better to go along and get along. Yeah, Tim Cook was another one who went in there this time around, the head of Apple. So, Sean, you gave the thumbs up when I mentioned the lawsuits that Trump has been filing. And this is not in his capacity as president. This is as private citizen Donald Trump.

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He's totally entitled to file whatever lawsuits he wants, and the courts will respond accordingly. But he did, in fact, file the one against the Des Moines Register that he threatened yesterday. This is based on Ann Seltzer's final poll of the 2024 election cycle showing him threatening I'm trying to remember whether he was down or up three or four points. What was it? He was down.

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And he wound up winning Iowa by 14. So it was completely wrong. And she's embarrassed and she retired. I mean, she retired on a loss, which is just awful. Like that's I'm sure not how she wanted to go out, but she did humiliate herself. Now I don't see the lawsuit unless, unless Trump has some proof that comes out that actually shows she did do it as election interference.

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Like there was some intentionality behind this alleged fraud to mislead people in order to change the vote. I have seen, and I have heard absolutely no proof that, to that effect. And I see none alleged by Trump. It's just a supposition that that's why she did it.

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But what do you make of that lawsuit and the lawsuit against the Pulitzer board, which we talked about, sorry, Nobel, which we talked about, um, the other day, was it Nobel or Pulitzer? Why am I forgetting all my facts? Yeah, it was a Pulitzer board that gave the New York Times the Pulitzer Prize for its Russia reporting. But they actually, we talked about this yesterday.

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The reason they did it is because the Pulitzer Prize made its own independent statement saying nothing came out after those reports to prove the facts therein untrue, which is potentially a defamatory statement. Anyway, what do you make of his legal strategy right now?

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We have every right to deport every illegal in this country, every single one who hasn't been granted asylum. We do not have to prove that they've committed an extra crime on top of their illegal entry. He was absolutely deportable without any finding about MSN 13, but one was issued. by a court and upheld on appeal. He was afforded due process, Steve.

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It just happened six years ago, and he was given a temporary reprieve, at least insofar as we wanted to send him back to his home. But he absolutely could have been ejected anywhere. And look at the nonsense being spun on the New York Times. It's a hugely popular podcast. That's what the left is hearing every day.

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A follow up to you on that, because that would explain yesterday when Bukele went to the White House. I thought it was pretty extraordinary how Trump basically had the whole cabinet in there. It was I hadn't seen that before. I mean, did you see them all standing there behind the couch? It was Marco Rubio sitting on the couch with Pam Bondi and then Trump and Bukele sitting in their chairs.

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And behind Rubio and Bondi was everybody. Stephen Miller was there. Linda McMahon was there. Kristi Noem was there. Everybody was standing. I was like, wow, this is actually very cool. He's brought some into the Oval before, but there was a reason he brought them all in. And he used them. to answer questions from reporters.

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And as I hear you talking about this, like park your car on it, I think he was parking the car yesterday. I'll just show you some of what I'm talking about because those cabinet members and Stephen Miller, who's senior advisor to the president, were doing battle in particular with CNN's Caitlin Collins.

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they might be, they will be getting more fodder to do exactly that. Here's an example of what we're hearing next level from the left, Delano, from Rachel Morin. Now she's, she decided, no, sorry, sorry, forgive me, not Rachel Morin. It's from Maria Hinojosa, who decided to say that the reason we're doing this to this man is Trump is a racist. Listen to this, stop five.

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What do you make of that? It's racism. That's why Trump's so against these illegals.

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Spot on. This woman, Maria Hinojosa, who I played for from MSNBC, we've talked about her before. She's the founder of Futuro Media and host of Latino USA on the public radio exchange, formerly NPR. And in September, she was on MSNBC saying Hispanics back Trump because they want to be white. She said, quote, Latinos want to be white. They want to be with the cool kids.

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So that's how Maria sees the world. Um, but you know, the evil Trump doesn't see them as white, which is why they have to go. I wanted to play one other soundbite from the daily today and the misinformation that was spewed by this Adam Liptak this morning. Listen to him suggesting what's next as a result of Trump's behavior here. Uh, this is SOT three.

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Oh, my God. The fake drama with the music dropping, except for the fact that you're American citizens and Trump is not claiming that he can pick up any American citizen and deport them. The whole reason this guy got deported is because he was suspected of being an MS-13 member, which threw him into the crosshairs of law enforcement. They discovered he was here illegally.

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which is why he was subject to removal. We are not deporting American citizens to El Salvador, and Trump knows that we cannot deport American citizens to El Salvador. There was a whole long exchange yesterday at that same meeting about... Trump's desire potentially to send convicted serial killers or child molesters who are U.S.

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Great to see you. OK, so this guy, Kilmar Abrego Garcia, is not a U.S. citizen. He is from El Salvador. He was brought here when he was 16 by his parents. He got arrested around, let's see, it was 2019. And He was like 19 or 20 at that time. He was arrested outside of a Home Depot in Hyattsville, Maryland, by Prince George County police officers on suspicion of being a gang member.

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citizens in our in our jails now to that prison, like to house them in prisons outside of the United States, people who have had their due process and been found guilty and are incarcerated. And he said, we're actually looking into whether that is legal, not not you're deported because we don't like you. Adam Liptak, New York Times Supreme Court reporter.

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who thinks he's as in danger as an MS-13 illegal in this country. It's so dishonest. Okay, but I wanted to turn the page because I mistakenly mentioned the name Rachel Morin when I was trying to get to Maria Hinojosa earlier. And the reason her name is on my mind is because this poor woman was brutally murdered by an illegal back in Maryland, Delano's home state now. And she was a mother of five.

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She was 37 years old. She was jogging along a trail in a quaint little community northeast of Baltimore when an illegal migrant named Victor Antonio Martinez Hernandez grabbed her and strangled her and beat her to death. He was 23 years old. He got here under the Joe Biden welcome program where we opened our border. He crossed into the U S in February of 2023.

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The autopsy reports revealed that this poor woman, Rachel Morin, had endured 15 to 20 blows to the head and had died from a combination of strangulation and blunt force trauma. This guy killed her, then fled the scene. And authorities said during his trial that they found DNA matching his at the crime scene. Then they traced him to Tulsa, Oklahoma, where police arrested him.

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It did not take the jury long at all to find him guilty. And the Hartford County Sheriff Jeff Gaylor said the United States immigration system failed Rachel Morin. The failure here again, he said, is the immigration system that allowed this person to enter our country illegally and remain in our country and commit crimes first in Los Angeles and then here in Hartford County. This is this is. Why?

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This is why Trump is doing this, Steve. This is why Stephen Miller is so outraged at the way the media is portraying this, at the lack of attention that even the Maryland lawmakers, those who are in the federal government, are now speaking out about this guy, Abrego Garcia, but don't have a word for Rachel Morin. Their priorities are completely upside down.

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OK, so that he nobody was bothering him. He was here, brought over. They call him so-called dreamers when it's their parents who bring them. They don't come willingly, but he was no question he entered illegally. But then he was suspected of being a gang member, and that found him in the crosshairs of law enforcement, and they handed him over to ICE. They recognized that he was not here illegally.

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Or they're saying, no, you're just trying to act white. That's you trying to act white like a cool kid, correct?

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Well, and because they had that one sliver of he wasn't technically supposed to be deported to El Salvador. And the Trump administration admitted that that was an administrative error, that that was an error that they made in sending him there in the beginning. Now they seem to be trying to wiggle out of that.

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That's right. That saying, it always throws me because it starts off by sounding like by hooker.

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There's no limit to their powers. Before we leave the subject of Rachel Morin, I want to play this soundbite. Her brother, Rachel's brother, Michael, spoke at the RNC over the past summer, and then her mother spoke out with Trump at the border last summer in another event that the media barely covered. They did not. He went down there. He met. That's where he met Jocelyn Nangaro's mom.

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He met with Rachel Morin's mom. Like Trump has been very clear he was going to make this an issue and do something about it. And here she is at the border last summer.

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Poor mom. And that totally brings it home. It's like, no, no more, no, no more. We're done to the Joe Biden days of open borders and no consequences and revolving doors out the back of the courtroom. Once you've been ordered deported are done. All right. I want to turn the page because there's much more to get to. And that includes, uh,

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Carmelo Anthony and this case of the altercation he had with Austin Metcalf, a 17-year-old down in Texas. So the controversy today in this case is that this young man, he's also 17, has been released after admitting to stabbing Austin Metcalf in the heart at a track meet, they were both there as spectators, both boys in high school, their whole lives in front of them.

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The following day, he was served with a notice to appear, and that commenced removal proceedings against him, pursuant to 8 U.S.C. Section 1229A. He was charged as removable. The government was recognizing he was here unlawfully, And on top of that, he appeared to have behaved unlawfully, though they did not need the latter in order to deport him.

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He is admitting that he stabbed Austin Metcalf in the heart with a knife. He alleges it's because Austin Metcalf laid hands on him. He's not even claiming Austin Metcalf had a weapon or threatened to kill him, et cetera. And now Carmelo Anthony has been released on bail for He was released from jail on Monday after posting a reduced $250,000 bond. He will remain on house arrest until his trial.

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A judge in Collin County slashed his $1 million bond originally and said he may await trial at home with an ankle monitor and 24-hour supervision from his parents or some other adult designee. And, um, the family had set up a give send go account, which has already raised over $415,000 so far. I'll just tell you what some seasoned lawyers are saying.

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For example, our pal Phil Holloway, he says, um, I see people held without bond for months or even years for much less serious charges. And I've heard a lot of that. I mean, you know how many January six cases were held without bond, uh, who, who did not murder anybody.

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But this guy Delano gets out on, you know, relatively low bond that somebody else is paying because he's already got this huge go fund me account or go give send go account. And you tell me why that is in your opinion.

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Just the fact that you're here illegally subjects you to being deported. That's just the way it is. Then he went through not one, but two court proceedings. The first was a bond hearing on April 29th, 2019, with immigration judge Elizabeth Kessler, who ruled the evidence showed he was a verified member of MS-13. He was afforded a hearing at which he presented evidence and so did the other side.

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He he's going to. That's my prediction as a lawyer. And we take on legal cases all the time on this show, given my own past as a 10 year practicing attorney at a very high level.

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I have no doubt that this this kid is in a lot of trouble right now and is more likely than not going to go to prison probably for the rest of his life, because we went through the legal standard with our legal panel just the other day. You cannot respond to non deadly force with deadly force, period. period. And it doesn't matter what the color of your skin is.

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What I think is happening here is this judge is probably bending over backward for him because of the color of his skin, because the judge is probably afraid of looking like they're being too tough.

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But the defense law firms down in Texas who deal with this kind of law all the time, for example, Granger and Mueller, a criminal defense law firm from Texas, said those accused of murder in Texas will have a bail amount set at $1 million or more. Period. That's what they do. The lowering of it was remarkable. Yes, he's 17.

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That may have had some effect on the fact that he's still a minor, so he's technically under his parents' control. But the parents know very well that this kid could be facing life in prison. So there is a flight risk. There's some sort of risk associated with it with this. And if what's alleged by the kids own words here, Steve is true. I don't know whether the community is in danger or not.

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Honestly, like this, this is alleged to be a hair trigger situation where this kid responded to some sort of. hand on him, trying to remove him from the spot where Austin and his brother and friends were watching a game. And let's go with the worst possible interpretation. Austin is a racist, which by the way, there is zero support for.

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Some left-wing loons got that going on X, and I hope you all face defamation lawsuits. There's zero support for that. But let's just go with the worst case thing you could imagine, where Austin Metcalf said something racist. No one's alleging that. And that Carmelo Anthony got upset and said, yeah, I'm not leaving. And then said, go ahead, make me. And Austin Metcalf laid hands on him to make him.

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You still... cannot pull a knife and stab him in the heart. We went through the law. You, A, cannot be the person who provoked the attack on you in response to which you used a knife. And so he can't claim self-defense for that reason. And more importantly, B, the response to force being used against you in all 50 states in the union must be proportional to the threat.

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And you may not use a knife, a gun, or any other means that will... obviously cause death or risk serious bodily harm if that is not what's about to happen to you. Here is... The police affidavit in support of the arrest, Anthony later told responding officers he was defending himself, explaining, quote, he put his hands on me. I told him not to while, quote, crying hysterically.

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The affidavit said Anthony also asked if Metcalf was going to be OK. Of course, he had already died, was officially pronounced dead at a hospital less than a half hour after the stabbing. Your thoughts on it, Steve.

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We will not allow him to remain canceled because we have power on the right to even over the arts and the artists who the left decides we're supposed to hate. But we begin with the news and it involves immigration today as the corporate media continues to completely misrepresent the now viral case of this guy, Albrego Garcia, just a Maryland father, according to the media.

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The court, quote, first reasoned. that the respondent failed to meet his burden of demonstrating that his release from custody would not pose a danger to others, as the evidence shows he's a verified member of MS-13. On December 19th, 2019, so, you know, some, what, eight months later or so, the Board of Immigration Appeals affirmed that finding that he was a member of MS-13, quote,

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That's what's happening because not even right now, I'll let you go, Delano, but right now, not even the defendant, Carmelo Anthony, is alleging anything, anything that would justify him stabbing Austin Metcalf through the heart. He's not even alleging it.

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No doubt. I don't agree with that. I don't agree with that at all. A 17-year-old boy stabs another through the heart after the first boy allegedly, quote, laid hands on him, trying to get him to move seats at a track meet. Trust me, that's a national story every day of the week. It's something's wrong. Something's wrong in our society. I don't care.

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I don't care what the race is, even if it had been the other way around. It doesn't matter. Something's wrong in the heart of the person who stabs another in the heart based on a physical confrontation over a seat at a track meet. And we need to figure out what what that is. What's wrong? Why did he do that?

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I don't think, look, he's going to get his day in court and he'll get due process and all that. What's most interesting to me is what drives a young man to behave that way in the first place. And that's, I don't know whether we'll ever know. I hope we will. All right, stand by guys. We'll be right back. Spring is here and life is busy.

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Code MK to get 40% off your first box and a free item of your choice for life. HungryRoot.com slash MK. Code MK. Steve, you mentioned it at the top of our first hour together in passing, and I wanted to get into it. So Colorado has done something absolutely insane when it comes to the transgender madness.

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The statehouse in Colorado has passed a bill that seeks to punish parents in custody disputes who will not use the new gender... uh, pronouns or name of their own child.

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So if your child gets corrupted by some left wing school teacher into believing that he's really a she, and then he goes to school every day and he's dressing like a girl when you're not there and he changes his name, uh, you know, from Eric to Emma and the whole school is calling him Emma and he's dressing like a girl when he's at school and nobody's told you as the parent, uh,

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Then if you and your spouse get a divorce and let's say the wife wants to affirm Emma because now it comes out and she's fine with what the school has done and you're not. Your child's gender has been reversed by a school without your knowledge or consent. And you as the dad say that is Eric and I'm going to sue the school for doing this. And this is outrageous. You should have brought this to me.

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And I will fight my crazy wife for custody over this because she should not be affirming this. And she doesn't deserve custody. I deserve at least half. I'm a good dad. They're going to make it count against you as if you are an abuser. If you refer to the kid as Eric. and or call Eric he and say he's a him. This is absolute madness. It's true craziness.

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And it passed the Colorado Statehouse by a party line vote. Every single Dem except one voted in favor of this madness. And it's on its way to the Colorado State Senate. What do you make of it?

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Then, as he realized he was about to be actually kicked out of the country, he had already been deemed not qualified for bond. He applied for asylum, even though it was much too late. You have to apply for asylum within a year of getting here. And then, not coincidentally, also asked for something called withholding from removal from El Salvador in particular, allegedly due to threats from gangs.

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This is so sick. And Delano, I have to tell you, it's illegal. It's unconstitutional. It will be struck down. I mean, we just had a whole case, 303 Creative, not long ago, out of Colorado, where somebody was punished by the Colorado state system for not making websites for certain members of the LGBTQ crowd.

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And she said that it does, it's not consistent with my belief to celebrate, you know, to, to post like videos about a trans marriage, et cetera. And, um, The Colorado legislature said, no, you will be punished because that's not consistent with our human rights law. And the U.S.

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Supreme Court found in favor of the web designer, saying the state cannot force her to say certain things in support of a certain ideology that she doesn't believe. That is not consistent with the First Amendment. And similarly, the state cannot punish the A father in my hypothetical could be a mother, whatever, for refusing to adopt fake pronouns about his or her own child.

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And not only that, but deprive them of custody of it. But separate and apart from all that, morally, just morally, this is deeply wrong. And trying to strong arm parents into supporting a process and an ideology that are extremely dangerous for minors.

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It was his safety request. move. Like if you won't give me asylum, then please at least say they can't send me back to El Salvador because there are mean gangs there who want to hurt me and my family.

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And on October 10th, 2019, he was granted not asylum, but withholding of removal to El Salvador after the immigration judge agreed he had established it was more likely than not that he would be persecuted by gangs in El Salvador. ICE did not appeal that grant of relief and plaintiff Abrego Garcia was then promptly released from custody. ICE arrested him.

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You know, this was too radical. for Gavin Newsom in California. The California state legislature passed a bill just like this and Gavin Newsom refused to sign it. That's how crazy this is. And you accurately point out, Steve, it wasn't so long ago, Colorado was reddish purple. Now it's considered blue, but there's probably a healthy red strain in there that could be revived if they go too far. And

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If you're too radical for Gavin Newsom, aren't you too radical for Jared Polis to sign? I mean, we're going to find out. We'll see what the Colorado State Senate does and then what Polis does. But this is crazy town. And again, the speech restrictions, I think, will be overturned as unconstitutional. All right, let's move on. I have other things I need to get to. Go quickly.

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They should listen to me. They would probably do better. Um, okay. Speaking of speech, uh, that is problematic. AOC, uh, has been out there on this. I don't know if it's campaign trail.

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I don't know what we're calling it, but this like fight the oligarchy tour with Bernie Sanders from which, you know, venue to venue, she travels first class, sipping her champagne, you know, in the first class cabin as the losers and plebs walk by to, to coach the one she's really fighting for. Um, and,

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And she's decided to ramp up her anti-Trump rhetoric in a way she's done before, but that could be deeply problematic for her if Trump actually decides to pay some attention to her. Listen to her just the other day, Sat 11.

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Okay, clearly saying that Donald Trump is a racist. Sorry, rapist. She also thinks he's a racist. He's all the ists. But here, she's in deep trouble because he was not found liable for rape, and George Stephanopoulos just had to pay ABC some $15 million to President Trump to settle a defamation lawsuit for saying that. She doesn't have any privilege out on the campaign stump.

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She's not protected by speech and debate while she's out there. And I ask you, Steve, whether Trump should do something about this because quickly, here she was just in January on social media about his inauguration.

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in Baltimore this past March under the Trump deportation push. So that's his history. He is under an order of removal. And at that moment where the judge found he didn't qualify for bond and that he was removable, just not to El Salvador, he could have been deported to any country in the world.

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Yeah, I think he's probably just not paying attention to her. But, you know, think about it. Well, hold on now.

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But think about it. Like we've gotten so used to people saying the worst things about Trump. I mean, truly the worst things that you're kind of like, whatever. But like if if picture like yourself or anyone, you know, if you got called that word, you would absolutely sue her. You know, like it would be so jarring and upsetting and defamatory.

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There'd be no question that you needed to do something about it. And really, the standards should not change just because you're Donald Trump. Yes, as a politician, you need to take barbs like he's a liar. He's a bad person. You know, those those are opinions to which she's totally entitled. Stating that he is a rapist is a statement of fact, which is false and has been rejected by a court of law.

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The only arguably wrong thing that's happened here is that when Trump deported him, he sent him to the man's home country of El Salvador. But even that has two potential hooks out of it for the Trump administration. One, if the circumstance that led to the danger for you in that country you're objecting to go into has been removed. then you can be sent back.

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Spot on. I mean, he really he's not going to shut her up unless he does sue her. And if he made an example out of her, it would be amazing. But, you know, I do think he's got more important things to do at the moment. Guys, you've been wonderful. Thank you so much for being here. Steve Dase, Delano Squires, please come back.

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Awesome. Wow. Gosh, it's so infuriating to watch her do that, isn't it? It's like she has no basis. She just wants to smear him. That'll go over great with her crowd. But over and over again, she gets that word into people's head and it's wrong. It's factually wrong. It's legally wrong. It's morally wrong. But that's AOC for you. That's the left's great white hope right there.

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Sandy Cortez and the way she talks, her weird affect in front of the crowd. I don't know what she's doing, but I predict that on the more massive national stage, it's not going to go well for her. They think that's their hope for 2028. Let's see. I don't think so. I really don't. Business owners, are your ads falling flat while your competitors dominate your market?

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Now we're joined by the official poet of The Megyn Kelly Show, the uncancellable, thanks to all of you, Joseph Massey. Joseph has a new book of poetry just out. It's out today, in fact. It's called America is the Poem, and it is absolutely gorgeous. It's based on a poem he wrote in advance of the inauguration, and here he is reading just part of that.

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And that gang that was allegedly persecuting him is no more in El Salvador. So that's one. Two, Stephen Miller argued this yesterday, that President Trump has declared MS-13 a terrorist organization. and ordered all these suspected terrorists to be removed, period, which is a different kind of removal and may supersede the withholding of removal order.

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Joseph, absolutely well done. Welcome back to the show. I love that. And just hearing you read that gave me the chills a couple of times, like incredibly moving words, the way you read it. And our mutual friend, Sasha Stone, did the video over it. So that's awesome. Love the partnership. What inspired you to write it?

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You, um, wrote the poem and now parlayed it into your latest book called America is the poem. Both, both the poems called that and the book is called that let's get this out up front. How can people buy the book on Amazon?

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Okay. And the reason we want to make sure people know that they can go and support you directly at Amazon and buy this book, America is the Poem, is because no one wanted you to be here. Your industry didn't want you to be here. Your critics didn't want us to be discussing your poetry. They wanted you, basically your voice snuffed out and never to be heard from again because you got swept up.

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with really just a dispute with an ex-girlfriend in the Me Too movement and the most vicious people of all, the poetry industry. Who knew? People thought it might be educators. Who knew? But no one had their money on the poets being the nastiest group of people. But man, they tried to snuff you out permanently.

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So for the audience that hasn't yet heard that story, can you just give us the quick overview of what they tried to do to you?

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That's something they'd have to argue in court and it would have to play out and it hasn't yet. But I did take note of Stephen Miller's emphasis on the he's a terrorist and president Bukele of El Salvador mentioned that word too.

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Do you wonder why you haven't been welcomed back in? You know, you were reviewed by the New York Times and all these other mainstream so-called publications. And we're seeing many men who were kind of canceled by the Me Too movement given a road back. Why not you? What's to stop you from going that route? Why wouldn't they allow you back?

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And it seems to me that they're trying to tee up yet another legal argument as to why even the order not to remove him to El Salvador would not be in control with over this particular guy because of Trump's immigration ruling. Okay. So that's where we are now, but That leads me to the media today, which has decided he is not an illegal. He is a Maryland man.

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That is so weird. I don't even understand that. That's not something you write about. That's not your thing. Your thing is beauty and... You find beauty in the smallest places and you spread it both with your photography and your poems and you spread it to all of us if we follow you on Substack, on your weekly news letter, which you deliver by email, on your poems, on your books.

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So I don't even get the race thing. Is that just to diminish you because they think you're a Trump supporter?

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You are moving up the ranks already. We have to make sure that Joseph hits number one. We have to make sure in poetry. And who are you bouncing off of the number one spot if we manage to make this happen?

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Yes. Yes. Please, please. You know what? We're here just in time for Father's Day and Mother's Day coming up in June and May, respectively. This is a beautiful gift. Why? Like, what are you going to do? You're going to give like another coffee mug or picture frame or bouquet of flowers. OK. I mean, fine. Nice try.

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But coupled with a book of poetry called America is the Poem, something patriotic, something that will stir a feeling inside of them away. a bouquet of flowers never could do. That's what you need to do. Go to Amazon right now, buy it. It's called America is the poem by Joseph Massey.

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And not only are you getting a great gift for yourself or someone you love, but you're supporting Joseph Massey and most importantly, giving a strong middle finger to the assholes who tried to ruin this man twice, right? For being swept up, uh, in an alleged me too situation. And then for being a Trump supporter, We're the answer. We are the answer.

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That is basically what the media wants us to believe, that he's this really sweet guy who is just a dad in Maryland. And the mean, mean Trump administration is trying to kick him out. We don't understand why they're doing that. It feels very wrong to the media. Here's A little bit of a stop montage of some of that, talking about him. Just a Maryland dad, guys. That's all.

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We're the only ones who can tell the woke Puritan mobs he's not canceled. F off. That's what I love so much about your story is like so many of our audience and others got behind you when they heard the story and said, we refuse to let you keep him down. You know, we refuse. And most people don't even... care to be honest about the specifics of what happened in this whole me too.

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It's like, okay, whatever it was, you paid a mighty price. You lost your whole career. Oh, you're quote respectability, but you refused to stay down. Even though Joseph, you had zero connections, zero power. And I think it's fair to say zero money.

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Mm-hmm. The... The updates on your X feed sometimes, at least certainly less recently, often are pretty honest about how you struggle with depression and are feeling at times hopeless about, can I make it? Are people following? Does my voice matter? But then I saw you move to a nicer place. You got out of the basement and you got a cat.

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And I saw signs of hope, both in your writing and in your posts. Have you experienced an uplift?

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And she doesn't need the money. We all know that. She's married to Arnold. Well, she's his ex. I'm sure she did just fine in that divorce. Now her son's a big star, too. He's got a nepo baby starring in the latest White Lotus. So we don't want Maria Shriver at the top of the poetry list. We want Joseph Massey there. America is the poem, is the name of the book.

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Tell me, how do you spend your days? I would think if you're a poet, you need to be outside walking a lot. You need to be touching grass. I know you're very connected with nature in general, but I would think if you lived my average day, you would not be inspired to write one word of beauty.

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He's just a Maryland dad. We've even crossed over to some describing him as a U.S. man, an American man. He is not an American man. He is an El Salvadorian who was here illegally under everyone's assessment. Who's taking a look at this? I mean, there's no question he was here illegally. There's no question. but it's being misrepresented by the media left and right.

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I love it because those pictures make you feel something special too. And we've all walked by like the puddle with the reflection of the white church steeple and thought, oh, that's so pretty. But only you will stop and take a picture of it. And the lighting of your shots is just right. You post it online. And it's the same exact thing as your poems.

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It's like just a moment of feeling something serene, beautiful. godly, spiritual, beautiful in the midst of X, which is where I consume most of your posts, which is, you know, of course a toxic wasteland. Like, I mean, that's what social media is. And that's kind of why we're there, but just a reminder of your humanity.

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I mean, that's the service that you're doing us all and the books all the more so, because that's something you can sit down with, especially people who can't meditate. I know a lot of people are like, I can't, you know, it takes up too much of my, like, as soon as I try to calm my mind, my mind goes nuts. And I think about every problem, my to-do list.

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But I feel like poetry is almost a way of meditating without meditating, right? Like you can fill your mind. It's kind of like a crossword. If you just focus on the words, you can't think of something else, but it's calming and it's restorative.

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That's, your poetry does that. Not everybody's. Again, it's called America is the Poem. Buy it on Amazon. America is the Poem by Joseph Massey. The thing too about the, you know, the namesake of the book, this poem, is you get...

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why so many of us, and I think you, Sharon, feel so optimistic about Trump's win and what's possible over the next, I guess, two years, we'd have to say, because if the Democrats win the House in the midterms, his agenda will be stymied. But right now, it's no holds barred.

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And while the media will tell you it's terrible, everyone's scared, it's a dark time, he's an authoritarian, I think most of us who voted for him are still feeling extremely happy and optimistic and relieved that the country did the right thing. And that leads me to a different part of the poem than the one we played when you started, in that soundbite in which we started.

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I'm just going to read part of it with your permission. You write as follows. America, for love, we go on. America, you defy the narratives imposed to poison your majesty. All the poison imposed to warp us away from our axis. The true, the beautiful, what binds us to a shared reality, sealed under the hand of God.

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I think that was Newsbusters who put that together. Very well done. It really tells the story. Not one fact that I've just espoused in laying out this story for you and for our audience for the fourth time was repeated in these reports because they're not helpful to the narrative. Marilyn's father, Steve, is much more appealing.

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Americans, may we all wake to the dawn this day with courage, for we are the whirlwind promised by patriots who fought to the depth of a last breath to birth America. And we are here. There is no other time to watch her rise again. That's it. You get it. And unlike most of us, you can express it. So have you been feeling it in the first 100 days or so?

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Hmm. Basic truth, beauty, godliness, serenity, connection with other. That's what you're about. And that's one of the many reasons I love your poetry, Joseph. I want everybody, please, please, please go buy the book. Okay. America is the poem. That's the name of it.

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It's by Joseph Massey, who, if you go back and look at my very first interview with Joseph, which was, hold on a second, it's in my packet. Okay. Pulled it up. It was episode 296 in April of 2022. We reveal a story of how I insisted on calling him Paul before I came to really understand that was not his name. He let me for a short time.

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It works, you know, from an apostle standpoint, but you're already good on that front. You already got that covered. So thank you. Thank you for all the times you've been on episode 296, 566, 754. And now today we love it and we wish you all the best.

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America is the poem on Amazon right now. Get out of there, Maria Shriver. You have enough. By the way, on the subject of the woman who accused Joseph, when this story came out, the Daily Wire reached out to her for comment. She did not respond. And she has since taken down the Facebook post that was up about Joseph. Tomorrow, we welcome Batya Angersargan.

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And do you remember that story about the defamation lawsuit against NBC over multiple hosts calling this doctor the, quote, uterus collector? Well, his lawyer is here with me, and we'll go deep into what happened here. We'll see you then. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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You know, Delano, this Maryland man thing and it's Newsbusters did a good job of showing how it's the exact same language being used on multiple networks is such a lie. It's an obvious lie. They are obfuscating this. And even when they the ones who reference that there was a finding he's part of MS-13 that was upheld on appeal. The next thing they do is attack the finding.

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Well, it wasn't much evidence. Well, you weren't there. There was no, there was, it was appealed and it was upheld on appeal. They're the ones who are lecturing us about, you have to respect the courts, respect the courts or we're going to have a constitution. Well, the courts handled this at the time with the Prince George's County gang unit.

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And by the way, Prince George's County is not some far right county. It's about as leftist as they come. And now they want us, we're allowed to second guess that court, but no other court that says he was removable or that the Trump administration made an error here.

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The story's been brought back into the spotlight because El Salvador President Bukele visited the White House yesterday amid his budding bromance with President Xi. And it really is very funny. He sent out some tweet after the meeting like- I miss President T. I can't remember what it said, but it was something very strange. It was bromance-y.

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Yeah. And that's what they're doing. So right now, um, this, this man is in an El Salvador in prison, this one that we're sending these illegals to. And, um, the media back home is completely running cover for him. Just a couple more examples of the ones I gave you, uh, politicals headline, El Salvador won't return wrongly deported, Maryland man, New York times.

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El Salvador's leader says he won't return wrongly deported Maryland man. Bloomberg, Bukele says deported Maryland man won't be returned to the United States. I mean, you wouldn't even know that he was an El Salvadorian citizen for many of these. And here is the CBC, our friends up north. El Salvador president says he won't return U.S. man who was deported by mistake.

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But what happened inside the Oval was very consequential when it comes to this case and, of course, its implications for President Trump's powers to deport illegals in the country. Joining me now to discuss this and all the news, Steve Dace, bestselling author and host of The Steve Dace Show on Blaze TV, and Delano Squires, contributor to The Blaze and research fellow at the Heritage Foundation.

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As if Trump decided Steve Dace needs to go because he mistook you for an illegal and sent you home and then said there's nothing I can do about this. And here's just one more. Here's the New York Times' The Daily interviewing their Supreme Court correspondent, Adam Liptak, about whether this guy has had any due process. And now I just laid it out for you.

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What happened to him in 2019, the immigration judge, I read you excerpts from her decision. Then it went up in appeal. I read you excerpts from that court's decision. Then he acclaimed asylum or withholder from removal. And they said, you don't qualify for asylum. And they gave him withholding from removal from one country only. But he was absolutely deportable at that moment to any other country.

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38-year-old suspect Cody Balmer turning himself into police held on state charges, including attempted murder, aggravated arson and terrorism, with the likelihood of federal charges still to come. CNN reporting investigators believe mental health issues may be a factor in this attack. Mr. Ballmer admitting to making Molotov cocktails with lawnmower gasoline and beer bottles.

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The suspect telling police he walked about one hour from his home in Harrisburg. to the governor's home early Sunday morning. The affidavit alleging security cameras captured Mr. Balmer breaking two windows with a hammer, throwing one Molotov cocktail through a broken window and climbing in through the other.

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Once inside, according to the affidavit, Mr. Balmer tossed a second bottle to further spread the flames. Governor Shapiro and his family were awoken around 2 a.m. by state troopers alerting them to the fire. Thankfully, there were no injuries. Photos of the aftermath showing extensive damage to the home. The governor speaking out in a Sunday press conference.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megan Kelly. It's Tuesday, April 15th, 2025. This is your AM update.

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Disturbing new details about the suspect in the arson attack on Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro's residence. President of El Salvador, Nayib Bukele, saying he will not return a suspected MS-13 gang member to the U.S. Federal authorities investigate a disturbing plot allegedly by a Wisconsin teen to kill President Trump.

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Authorities say Mr. Balmer admits to harboring hatred toward Governor Shapiro. The affidavit reading, quote, Balmer was asked specifically what he would have done if Governor Shapiro found him inside of his residence, to which Balmer advised he would have beaten him with his hammer. Mr. Balmer's social media presence suggesting anti-government views against both Democrats and Republicans.

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NBC reporting in 2022, Mr. Balmer posted an image of a Molotov cocktail with the words, be the light you want to see in the world. Lawmakers from both sides of the aisle speaking out against political violence. Former President Biden posting to X, quote, there is no place for this type of evil in America. And as I told the governor yesterday, we must stand united against hatred and violence.

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Vice President J.D. Vance posting to X, thanks be to God that Governor Shapiro and his family were unharmed in this attack. Really disgusting violence. And I hope whoever did it is brought swiftly to justice. President Trump speaking out from the Oval.

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Mr. Balmer has a criminal history. In 2015, pleading guilty to forgery and theft. Again in 2016, pleading guilty to forgery. Mr. Balmer also expected in court in a matter of days relating to a 2023 assault charge.

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President of El Salvador Nayib Bukele visiting the White House today to advance cooperation with the Trump administration in cracking down on foreign gang members illegally living in the U.S. Mr. Bukele agreeing in February to accept deported illegal aliens from the U.S. in exchange for a

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Reporters in the Oval pressing administration officials on the status of Kilmar Albrego Garcia, an illegal immigrant from El Salvador, previously found by two immigration judges to have ties to MS-13. In 2019, Mr. Garcia was ordered deported, but then convinced an immigration court to protect him from being sent to one country, El Salvador, claiming that he could face gang violence there.

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The DOJ acknowledging in March Mr. Garcia... who is deportable, the question is to where, was loaded onto a plane destined for El Salvador due to, quote, an administrative error, end quote. Last week, the Supreme Court ruling a lower court may have overstepped its authority by ruling the federal government must facilitate and effectuate Mr. Garcia's return.

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The DOJ providing daily status updates to the court on Mr. Garcia now stating he is held in the terrorism confinement center and is in good health. Attorney General Pam Bondi weighing in from the Oval.

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Deputy Chief of Staff for Policy Stephen Miller elaborating on the Supreme Court's ruling.

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And the all-female Blue Origin spaceflight goes off without a hitch and without much time in space. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update. One in two adults have high blood pressure. Many don't even know it. That's a ticking time bomb. But here's the good news. You have the power to take control naturally with 120 Life.

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Mr. Miller going on to say if Mr. Garcia were sent back to the United States, he would be deported a second time. CNN White House correspondent Caitlin Collins asking President Bukele if he has plans to return Mr. Garcia.

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Pressed again by Ms. Collins about returning Mr. Garcia, President Trump saying.

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Mr. Trump then saying the U.S. will work with El Salvador to remove as many illegal aliens from this country as possible. Coming up, federal authorities investigating a Wisconsin teenager for allegedly plotting to kill President Trump. And the details are alarming.

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And the all-female space crew, including pop star Katy Perry, returns safely to Earth after a trip that took less time than it would to load your dishwasher. As President Trump is settling into his new administration, one of the top Democrats in Congress aiming to undermine the Trump agenda is Democrat Senator Dick Durbin of Illinois.

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And according to our sponsor, the Electronic Payments Coalition, Senator Durbin has a new plan, a government takeover of your credit card. Today, Americans have thousands of choices in credit cards, but they say Senator Durbin's plan will result in less competition and less security, which means more risk for your credit and your identity.

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You can learn more for yourself at guardyourcard.org, and you could consider telling your senators to stop Dick Durbin's government takeover of your credit card before it's too late. Federal authorities investigating a disturbing case out of Wisconsin involving a suspected plot to assassinate President Trump by a 17-year-old named Nikita Kasap.

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In March, state authorities conducting a wellness check on the home of Tatiana Kasap and Donald Mayer following a request from Mr. Mayer's mother. Kasap's step-grandmother telling local police she was unable to contact the family and learned from the high school that Kasap had not attended in two weeks.

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Authorities discovering Kasap's mother and stepfather deceased, both bodies badly decomposed with visible bullet wounds covered in blankets. Kasap nowhere to be found, his stepfather's car and the family dog missing. Waukesha authorities alleging Kasap fatally shot his parents and lived with the bodies for weeks before fleeing with the dog. He was arrested by local authorities in Kansas.

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discovered with thousands in cash, a smashed home safe, a number of electronic devices, his stepfather's gun, and ammo. Wisconsin state authorities slapping Kasap with a slate of charges, including two counts of first-degree murder, two counts of hiding a corpse, theft of property, and operating a motor vehicle without the owner's consent.

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The 34-page document reading, quote, the killing of his parents appeared to be an effort to obtain the financial means and autonomy necessary to carry out his plan.

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An FBI review of documents discovered by state police include a manifesto in which they say Kassab calls for the assassination of President Trump to, quote, foment a political revolution in the United States and, quote, save the white race from Jewish-controlled politicians.

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According to the warrant, Kassab allegedly studied an image with, quote, directions on how to extend the range of an attack by drone and ways to avoid detection. The instructions provide direction to use a small dropper to drop an explosive Molotov cocktail or very strong topical poison. Federal authorities have yet to formally charge Kasap.

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The suspect, currently held on $1 million bond in Waukesha County Jail, is set for a May 7th arraignment relating to the state charges. The ladies of the Blue Origin space crew back safely on Earth after a brief, and we do mean brief, trip to space.

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The all-female crew, including Blue Origin founder Jeff Bezos' fiancee, Lauren Sanchez, pop star Katy Perry, TV host Gayle King, film producer Carrie Ann Flynn, civil rights activist Amanda Nguyen, and NASA rocket scientist Aisha Bowe, blasting into space in a round trip totaling 10 minutes and 21 seconds. the new Shepard rocket spending about three minutes just beyond the Earth's atmosphere.

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The group lauded by journalists covering the event for Blue Origin, who sounded almost like they were watching an Apollo mission.

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After you go through an experience like this, it's more than a team. It's almost like a family. That intensive training consisted of learning how to enter and exit the vessel, buckle their seatbelts, and talk to mission control. Katy Perry and Gayle King kissing the ground upon their return. Jeff Bezos swooped up Lauren Sanchez like she was just back from a trip to Iraq. Ms.

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Sanchez offered this profundity just back from her flight.

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And that'll do it for your AM Update. I'm Megyn Kelly. Join me back here for The Megyn Kelly Show, live on SiriusXM Triumph Channel, 111 at Noon East, on YouTube.com slash Megyn Kelly, and on all podcast platforms.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, coming to you today from Washington, D.C., where we just attended the Senate confirmation hearing of Defense Secretary nominee Pete Hegseth. We've got the whole hearing covered gavel to gavel for you today.

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He didn't seem to care about Doug Emhoff's violence against women, which actually is backed up by a whole report by an attorney who was his girlfriend, who she filed it anonymously, but she filed it in the Daily Mail. What is he talking about? What is this? This is just a blatant character assassination attempt.

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No serious country would have her. And yet we do. She was an embarrassment. Here's a little sampling of her.

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You've hurt our feelings. It's like, oh my God, you are undermining the very cause that I know you so desperately want to promote right now. So I was embarrassed for them. I was embarrassed for my sex and how they were behaving today. Then there was Slotkin. Copy. who's the newest Democrat over on the left side.

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You could kind of feel that she was like, yeah, I got him again. All the rest of us are laughing at her. Everybody in the gallery was laughing at her. So that was Maisie. But, I mean, honestly...

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i i don't want to choose like the worst woman but the kirsten gillibrand was she was the worst like hysterical first of all she looks like she's aged 30 years in the past four like i looked around and she looked like a woman in her mid-40s last time i looked at her and then from afar i was like she looks like an elderly woman over there i'm sorry i'm not trying to attack her personally i'm just saying like i think the job has been a lot for her

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No, I don't know why. they you know i on this show sometimes i i have a temper i'll get out whatever if i were in the senate i trust me i would be composed and i would be able to make my points without getting hysterical yeah i wrote it down in my notes it was like one of the few notes i took at one point she says it your comments are so hurtful they're so hurtful they're so mean To whom?

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To the warfighters? So you're saying the female warfighters' feelings are hurt? Do you see how you're undermining your own point, madam? Are they warfighters who can go in there and take bullets? Or are they like weepy little schoolgirls who hurt their feelings and they need a public apology? Go ahead.

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And while her background sounded impressive, she'd been with the CIA and so on, she was so annoying. Oh, I know you've genuflected. Okay, you've done your genuflection to Donald Trump. Like, everyone was just... There's a way of doing cross-examination where you don't wind up the least likable between the person you're crossing and yourself.

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I loved how Senator Wicker was the chair and he did a great job. He's like, no, you're not getting a second round of questioning. We're going to run this the same way we ran the last two when the Dems were in charge. And then you've got the ranking member, Jack Reed, who was making all sorts of points. But here's what I love about it. He had all sorts of points.

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He was trying to score against Pete, but this is how he would do it. Well, I would like the record to reflect that.

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You can't hear you. He listened to it one time. And for the rest of the time, he was like, and another thing about Pete Higgs. I'm sorry.

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One more for you. How great was it when Senator Mullen of Oklahoma took the mic and got up there and just unleashed on everybody on the other side? Like you're a bunch of drunks. You think he's a drink? You're drunks. You show here. Watch. Watch this.

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And obviously these people, most of them, haven't done it. Right? You can tell the difference. You see a Trey Gowdy cross-examination, you think he's the man. That guy knows what he's doing. You see these people try to do it. You're like, are you trying to make me hate you? I'm not inclined to hate you just because you're a Dem or against Pete. You're just behaving like a prick.

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Here's the other thing. One other thing. They were like, how many people did you manage at Concern Veterans for America? How many people did you manage at Vets for Freedom? And he was like, you know, maybe eight to ten, eight to ten, eight to ten. That's all. And you're going to manage all these people at the Department of Defense.

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And he finally said, you know, I'm going to work for a CEO who is extremely successful. Yeah. How many people had Barack Obama managed before they made him president? He was a community organizer. He didn't do anything managing people. I mean, literally nothing. He went to Harvard Law School. He worked like a summer at Sidley and Austin, I think.

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And then he decided to be a community organizer, becoming an activist. He managed no one. Pete Hexeth on the battlefield as a major commanded far more people in advance of this role than Barack Obama ever did. And their party made him commander in chief. The nerve of these people, Michael Knowles, I'll give you the last word.

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Anyway, before I bring in Michael, I just want to say, so I went there today. I've never gone to a Senate confirmation hearing as a regular person as opposed to as a member of the press. I did it because the Hegseths invited me and I said, you know what, this would be a great experience for me for a couple of reasons.

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Number one, I do support Pete Hegseth and am very happy to telegraph to the world that I do and that I hope he gets through. And if my sitting there in any way telegraphs to people who need it to be telegraphed, that it would be a good thing to support him and that I think the allegations against him are bullshit, great, I'll do it, fine.

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I want to get more reaction now to Pete Hegseth's confirmation hearing from two men who know exactly what we need in a secretary of defense. Dakota Meyer, an Iraq and Afghanistan war veteran who became the first living Marine in over 40 years to receive the Medal of Honor in 2011. Along with Rob O'Neill, a U.S. Navy SEAL veteran who participated in over 400 combat operations yesterday.

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including the raid that killed bin laden he's the man who did it he's now the host of the operator podcast guys great to see you again how you doing good doing well megan thanks for having us Oh, my gosh. I'm dying to hear your reaction to what we saw today. Rob, let me start with you, because it really was like these senators who most of whom they don't like.

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They're happy to send you two into war while they sit in these air conditioned offices. But when they get an actual warfighter in front of them, they treat him like he's the gum on the bottom of their shoe.

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Yeah, here's Dick Blumenthal of Connecticut trying to get, trying to get, it was a gotcha against Pete on exactly what numbers are in which branches of the military. Watch.

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But number two, I did think it would be a fascinating experience for me too, having been on the other side so many times, not as a senator, but as a member of the media, just covering these things to see what it's like to be in the middle of it all. And my takeaway is it's very, very boring. You had to sit there from 930 straight. We got out at two. No breaks. Well, some kept it kind of exciting.

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And one of the most interesting things, Rob, was when they were trying to cross-examine him. A couple did, but Jack Reed, the ranking Dem in particular, on whether he thinks we should follow the Geneva Convention.

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And Pete was trying to say, look, my criticisms have been you've got these people in another land who come up with these rules, but warfighters on the ground get conflicting messages, especially in today's modern military where they're fighting against insurgents. And They need better guidance on exactly what they're allowed to do, what they're not allowed to do.

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For the most part, it was like, especially these Democrat senators who just want to hear themselves talk. You know, the Republicans actually asked him questions that would help us get to know him a bit. The Dems, for the most part, just grandstanded. And that was annoying. It's like, fine. It was a freezing cold room. It doesn't really make you want to run out and run for Senate. I'll say that.

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So Dakota, you heard there a little suggestion that's where Blumenthal was going. You can't manage these numbers in the Army and the Navy. You've never managed anything. It's too big. You've done nothing. Totally ignoring, as I pointed out before you guys came on, Barack Obama managed absolutely nothing before he became president of the United States. He was a community organizer. That's it.

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And then you finally have the last person to question Pete of anybody up there who was the newly elected Republican senator from the great state of Montana. That's Rob O'Neill's home state, Butte, Montana, who gets up there, she, he. and starts, who's an actual veteran, and he decides to go a different way with Pete. Watch.

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And then he went on, Dakota, that continued for another five, well, I mean, maybe three minutes. And Pete knew all those answers. And he was trying to make a point there.

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So Chris Murphy of Connecticut, you should be feeling good because I'm less inclined to take your job now. But when I decide to take it, it will be mine because you're a disaster. Anywho, it was just... Did we really learn anything? Or was it all just like an exercise in preening, right?

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We're going to be joined in a second by Rob O'Neill and Dakota Meyer, Medal of Honor winner. um, in just a bit. And Michael Knowles will be here to kick things off in two seconds. But first, just want to give you my, my overall thoughts. No one laid a glove on him. He's good. He's got this. I have zero doubts now that he will be confirmed.

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Mostly on the Dem side and the Republicans in earnest trying to search for some answers on what Pete's going to do inside defense that would be different. I enjoyed that. Anyway, enough about me. I think he's getting through. I think he did his job.

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I love your honesty. I know that you were at best lukewarm on Pete, which is one of the reasons we wanted you to be here. We're not just looking for uniformity and thought. Rob, one of the things or a couple of things that Pete said today, I know are right up your alley. I mean, we've talked about it many times.

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And one of them, of course, we heard over and over how he wants to get woke out of the military. And that's been a big priority for Trump. But the other one speaks to the total lack of accountability for the people who have lost our wars, who have endangered guys like you, in many cases unnecessarily, without any accountability for it, like the disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal.

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And one top Democrat senator told me he thought that this was going to be the toughest hearing for Trump's nominees, like worse than RFKJ, worse than Tulsi. So we'll see if that's true. Trump should be feeling great right now because my prediction is Pete will have no problems. Bringing in now Michael Knowles. He's host of The Michael Knowles Show on The Daily Wire.

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It's funny because I realized sitting there today that everything I know about military ranks, I learned from MASH. Am I alone in that? You're like, wait a minute. Who was above Klinger? And then there was, anyway, Hawkeye. Okay.

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Okay, let's spend a minute on the sort of main lines of attack against him. We covered a couple, like you don't have the experience or you haven't managed enough. Or you allegedly beat your wife. Okay, thanks, Tim Kaine. Sure, great. But then there was the Mark Kelly, Senator Mark Kelly of Arizona.

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He brought up some of the allegations that we've seen in the anonymous press, the press citing anonymous sources. Here's a little bit of that in SOT16.

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Okay. I'll just say, the audience has heard me talk about this kind of thing before. That wasn't great by Pete because choose one or the other. Either you're going to say no, no, no, no, or you're going to say anonymous smears the whole time. But to jump in with absolutely not on just the one is sort of an admission. It sounds like an admission to all the others, right?

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I don't think it was an admission. I'm just saying. So anyway, what did you make of it, Rob? Was it effective?

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Well, no, he said absolutely not. Did you go to a strip club? But by the way, it's already all over the press by people who actually did go to the strip club that Pete wasn't there. Like that's already actually been out there. That didn't make it in anybody's questioning that a third party independent witness has said I was there and he was not there.

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But don't you think this is where like all the anonymous press allegations did their job, right? They made their way into the hands of a U.S. senator who then got to list them off like they were all real and verified. And, you know, it's like just the assumption that he was guilty of them all was built in, which is why I think anonymous smears was actually a good answer for all of them.

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And he probably just should have stuck with that straight through strippers or no strippers.

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The other big thing was women in the military. I mean, they just beat that horse until it was absolutely dead and dead again. Today, he made so clear that what he's been talking about is like, yes, women can serve in combat if they can meet the standards. It's like what I've been saying all week on the firefighters out in L.A. and what most normal Americans feel.

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They can serve if they can do the job. Although I have to say, you know, there are other arguments for women not serving in combat, like the distraction of it. Like, I actually I don't know how Pete truly feels, but I think I might be further to the right than he is on it. But Dakota, do you think that that's going to be an ongoing issue?

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Because all the women up there seem to be, you know, indignant about that. Pete would ever say that there's a question about whether women should be serving certain combat roles.

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I think you're right. He's not going to get a single Dem vote from the look of it. Last question. How many pushups did you guys do this morning?

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You guys, it's awesome to see you. Thank you, as always, for being here. Thank you for your service. God bless, and to be continued once he gets confirmed. Thank you, Megan. Awesome. Thank you. All the best, guys. Wow. OK, great show. We got to go. I got to get on my on route back to where do I live again? Up in Connecticut.

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And thank you so much for being with us and for for bearing with us as we drop the show a little late today, given where I was all morning. We are back tomorrow with VDH. See you then. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda and no fear.

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Joni Ernst was the big question mark and she was great today. She was very nice in her questioning of him. Very respectful. Um, That's not a no vote. No way. And, you know, this is just the Senate Armed Services Committee. He has got to he'll get out of committee. And but like she was the big pivotal vote, even if Trump is going to lose potentially McConnell, potentially Murkowski.

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Okay, there wasn't anything more disgusting today than Tim Kaine. Tim Kaine, who literally pulled out the old, how long have you been beating your wife? I mean, it was stunning. We know the allegations against Pete. We know that Pete has been a serial cheater on his wives. That is known, okay? So that's fair game, I guess. If you want to go there, you can go there.

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You could go with the anonymous, you know, The alleged rape accuser, her story fell apart. It was telling that pretty much nobody really zeroed in too much on that one. But how long have you been beating your wife is defamatory. Not literally because you can't sue senators for what they're saying in this context. But my point is that was so below the belt for Tim Kaine.

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Okay, I will get to the domestic violence accusation in a second because that was the wrong soundbite, but it is a relevant soundbite that we want to get to. This guy with his holier-than-thou on the cheating allegations and what he did was Hillary Clinton's running mate. Yeah, yeah. Okay, so this man... was fine with Bill Clinton, right?

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This man who wants us to believe any extramarital activity is abhorrent to him. He's disgusted by it. That's the same Tim Kaine, right? We're talking about the same Bill Clinton, no problem, fine, but as president, right? Or Hillary too, but This is a bridge too far, Pete Hegseth, even after he's admitted to being unfaithful in his marriages and then getting on the straight and narrow.

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and Collins, which now they're saying he might not. I don't think Pete Hegseth has trouble. I think he's going to get confirmed, and I don't think anybody touched him. And really, to me, the story of the day was how some of these Democrat senators embarrassed themselves trying to. I was humiliated for some... Why do the women always have to be so shitty?

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This is the guy. Look at him. Look at him with his head on Bill Clinton's shoulder. He loves Bill Clinton. Accused by sexual assault or rape by how many women? How many affairs has he had on Hillary Clinton? And he wants to get out there and lecture us on Pete Hegseth, Michael Knowles?

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Okay. I just want to say one more thing about Tim Kaine. All right. So first of all, not only was he running for office with Hillary Clinton, he was totally fine with the Clinton's behavior. No problem whatsoever. But Pete Hegseth is a bridge too far for him. Okay, fine. Um,

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But he was campaigning with Doug Emhoff after the allegations against Doug Emhoff about banging the nanny while still married to his first wife, allegedly impregnating said nanny, and then she lost the baby somehow, and abusing some other girlfriend by slamming her in the face. Tim Kaine out there with Doug Emhoff. Yeah, let's go blue. That's no...

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But Pete Hegseth is a disgusting dirtbag who little Tim Kaine can't stand. This is like how it just oozed out of my, like you're watching it, you're like, disdain is oozing out of my pores. Like, I have to tell you, Michael, it's very hard, especially for someone in my position or your position.

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to sit in there and not stand up and start answering the questions like, are you fucking kidding me, Tim Kaine? Take a seat. It was very, very hard. And then I've got to get to point number two on Tim Kaine. I know the allegations against Pete backward and forward. Trust me, I have researched them all. I did a comprehensive interview with the guy where we went over every single one.

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Why do the women have to be like these hysterical fools? Why can't they be more dignified? You know, like you could lay gloves on him. I mean, Tim Kaine was the worst. I should say that up front. The worst. The most disgusting, I should say. But he wasn't like an hysteric. Maisie Hirono is so dumb. I can't believe she's a U.S. senator. Christian Gillibrand was like... Women can be in combat.

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Beating his wife is not on the list. And the nerve of Tim Kaine to come out there and throw it out there. Watch.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. I'm Megan Kelly. Welcome to The Megan Kelly Show. Later today, Kelly's court is back and we have a doozy of a court for you today. Explosive developments in the Diddy trial, the Weinstein retrial, and some major new developments in the Brian Kohlberger case as that's barreling toward trial this summer.

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Like the New York Times said about covid, we were misled. No, we actively misled you. That's your proper headline. New York times, these media people after the fact, now that we all on the right have been proven correct yet again, now want to glom on to our correctness. Like, Oh, we saw too. We were part of the right narrative all along. No, you weren't. We were there. You were on the other side.

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We documented it. Well, welcome to the party. Johnny come late lease, but you are very, very late.

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And so on any woke issue, he's correct. But he definitely suffers from TDS. I mean, I like that he's got the TDS.

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Oh, look at Rachel Maddow. After Russiagate fell apart, did she come out and say, I got it completely wrong. I misled you for two years. No, she just wrote that into a 30 million dollar a year contract for one day a week. And she's still the leftist goddess, goddess and revered for her factual fact based reporting.

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There are real consequences to those lies. Well, I'm shocked, I have to say, that it's... Like, I guess I'm not shocked. I mean, I'm not shocked he was about to go into a wheelchair. He looked like he was about to go into a casket. That's the truth. But it is interesting to read these people coming out with the progressive levels of how bad it was.

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And I, you know, the more I read, the more I just think what I've been thinking, which is F these people. They should never be trusted again. There needs to be a federal investigation into how bad he was, whether he was competent while in the office and making the decisions and signing the executive orders and the pardons. Who was making the calls? We still don't know.

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We need subpoena power over his top aides who need to be forced under oath to tell us who was governing the country. That hasn't happened so far and it needs to. Okay, I want to keep going because we don't have that much time.

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Anyway. And she's a doctor. I mean, she should know better. Okay, let's talk about, I know you're big on this subject and I find it fascinating too. Trump is going to bring, is bringing white Afrikaners from South Africa to the United States as refugees. We've had some, what's the number, like 59 arrive in the past day. And this is because in South Africa now, they have turned on,

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white people and decided that because of the history of villainous behavior there, that the current whites in South Africa must be punished, up to and including taking their land away from them and just giving it to black South African residents and citizens. So now Trump has said they can come here. There's some 8,000 of them who want to leave.

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And so he's not saying yes to everybody, but he's saying we're going to take a look. They can come here. This is what a true refugee looks like who is under threat because of his race, of losing his property, his livelihood and potentially worse. I mean, claims of violence and threatened death. And the first shipment of folks arrived yesterday.

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And there they were literally standing there waving American flags. Look at this. Look, I mean, I'm sorry, but they look like people who would like to assimilate.

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I'm very encouraged by their American flag shirts, their American flags that they're holding and waving, and full of gratitude to President Trump and to this country for giving them a place to go after being persecuted for no reason other than the color of their skin. But now, Buck, we've got the left... saying this has gone too fast.

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They're allowing in these refugees too quickly without adequate investigation of who they are and whether they deserve to be here. We should have involved the UN, say some of these Democrats, and the hypocrisy is dripping, dripping from the sides of their mouths as they make these claims. Your thoughts on it?

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You're so right. That's exactly right. Well said. Here's another example of exactly what you're talking about. Her name is Ashley Allison. We've shown the audience this woman before. She goes on the CNN panel on the Abby Phillips show that Scott Jennings appears on. And she was the former National Coalition's director for Biden-Harris 2020.

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This is the woman who was out there not long ago saying... Black women are the most educated people in the world, and I still can't get ahead. I don't understand. I've still been left behind, even at CNN, when I should have jumped ahead of others, alleging, I guess, that CNN is a bunch of racist, sexist pigs. in any event, or I guess it was Obama.

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She was saying like under Obama, she, she didn't get ahead. Notwithstanding the fact that she was clearly the most qualified woman in the room because she's a black woman with all this education. Okay. Well, maybe you're not that impressive. Maybe you didn't wow people. I hate to break it to you. You don't seem that impressive to me. I watch you on CNN and these clips.

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I'm never like, wow, this is a really intelligent, thoughtful person. And it seems like Obama's administration felt the same. Well, she's back with thoughts on this South African situation. Watch this.

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Amazing. Amazing. Is is there a genocide happening right now in Venezuela or Mexico? Because you really seem to love the immigrants who come from those countries and not just those countries. But Bill Malujan, Fox's immigration reporter, he tweeted out, Buck, similar to what you were just saying. Did the media networks now criticizing a few dozen South Africaners coming to the U.S.

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legally as refugees have anything to say when Arizona was overrun with thousands of African aliens crossing illegally every day in December 2023? Because I sure didn't see them down there covering it.

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Here are three words you should never say to your wife during this period of having a new baby. I'm so tired. Do not say those words, Buck Sexton. Only your wife is allowed to say those words when the baby is an infant, assuming she's breastfeeding and the one primarily getting up with the baby overnight. I remember looking at Doug saying, you could say that to your friends.

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And why does she have such a strong objection to them coming here? No, not here. No. She says, and they should leave. And then Scott Jennings says, they are. And she was like, no, not here. Go back to Germany or go to Holland. Like, what is it? What is it about them, Ashley, that you find so objectionable?

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When normal law-abiding Americans, including overwhelmingly Hispanics, objected to the waves of illegals coming in, mostly from South America, Latin America, you called them all racists. The left said, it's all about racism. You hate brown people. But now this one small group of whites who actually are facing massive racial discrimination comes and she says, it's a no, get out. Why?

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It's obviously because of skin color. And by the way, live by the sword, die by the sword. We'll play by your rules.

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You look at the reaction, you've got the New York Times literally saying this is going too fast. The refugee process often takes years, but only three months have passed from the time Trump signed this executive order. It's happening too quickly. Time magazine, refugees coming into the US are typically vetted by the United Nations.

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which routinely refers people fleeing persecution and violence in their home country to safer countries like the US, the arrivals from South Africa were not vetted by that office. Suddenly they're so concerned about the vetting and the speed of the arrival of the refugees. Give me a break. All right, wait, there's a lot to get there.

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So I got to switch now to the UK where there's a similar switcheroo happening with Keir Starmer, okay, who was completely in favor of open borders, just like the rest of his left-wing party. There are statement after statement after statement by him. I'll just give you a montage of a few of how he's been sounding in the prior years to this one. Listen.

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You can go say that to your mom and your brothers and sister. You may not say that to me.

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Okay, great, Keir. How'd that work out? I'll show you. Listen to what he's saying now.

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What an idiot. We've all been saying that for decades. And he and his party and their counterparts here in America have been challenging us, saying those kinds of statements are racist. Now this asshole finally realizes that he's been on the wrong side without doing a mea culpa, right? Just kind of comes out there like, gee, now it's gotten really bad. And by the way, Buck,

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It has gotten terrible over there. In recent years, the immigration numbers in the UK, illegal immigration, have reached 906,000 in the year from June 2022 to June 2023. Back when David Cameron was prime minister in 2010, they were in a freakout about the fact that annual net immigration had exceeded 100,000. Now it's at 900 plus thousand. And finally, after their country is gone, it's gone.

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The UK is no longer what it once was. And I don't think it will ever be again. Finally, Johnny come lately. Keir Starmer is like, oh, gee, they're not assimilating and we should do a crackdown.

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And I mean, let me just give you the numbers on that point. Daily Mail reporting that on Britain's asylum seekers, quote unquote, asylum seekers. Pakistan was the most common country of origin, followed by Afghanistan. Afghanistan, Iran, Bangladesh and Syria. These five countries alone made up almost 40 percent of all asylum applications. Good luck.

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I know, and I think it's too late for Europe. I mean, what's really sad is it had to get to a truly dangerous, irreversible point before the Keir Starmers of the world started paying attention. And I really think it's too late for them. It's too late for them and it's too late for France too. People like Ayaan Hirsi Ali have been jumping up and down about this for years.

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You're tying it all together. A pleasure to see you, my friend. Be well and kiss that beautiful baby for me.

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All right. Coming up in Kelly's court, we're going to get to the explosive first day. And now we're in day two of the Diddy trial. My God, the shocking developments in the Brian Kohlberger case and whether the Menendez brothers are about to be set free. All that and more in just a minute.

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Back in session, the universe might implode because everyone is in court today. Everyone. The Menendez brothers, Diddy, Weinstein, and some of our panelists are involved in multiple of these cases, plus some incredible new Kohlberger reporting ahead of that trial that starts this summer. Mark Iglarish is with us today, along with Mark Garagos.

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Iglarish is a criminal defense attorney at Iglarish Law, former prosecutor. Garagos is a trial lawyer and managing partner at Garagos and Garagos. Mark and Mark, welcome back. Great to see you both. What a day. I'm going to start with you, Garagos, because your daughter... is one of the lead lawyers defending P. Diddy. So how do you think it's going so far? They picked the jury last week.

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They had opening statements yesterday and their first and second witness, and they're in the middle of crossing that second witness right now.

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So when the kids came, I was like, yeah, this is fine. This is the natural next step. But I think if you were like 24, it would be much more of a,

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They're never very good. There's a very funny Modern Family episode where Mitchell is in court arguing and the person who's the sketch artist is somebody who he dissed in a former life and just makes him look ridiculously bad. And his whole goal is to be drawn more favorably by the sketch artist. We have to rely on sketches because it's federal court and they don't allow cameras in federal court.

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It's very annoying. But I would say this. I'll go to Iglarsh on this. I thought she made the only... And best argument that's available to Diddy, which is he may be a bad person who you can't stand, whose sex life is bizarre and offensive to you. But that doesn't make him a criminal under the RICO acts.

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And you can't confuse your disgust for his personal choices as a human with seeing him as a violator of the criminal law.

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But we begin today with the news. As President Trump begins his Middle East trip, President Biden is back in the spotlight. And how? The first details from the book by Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson, Original Sin, which comes out next week, have hit the public. The Guardian got a copy.

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Here's what she these are highlights from her opening, as reported on the Law and Crime podcast. First of all, they keep calling him Sean, not P. Diddy, not Puff Daddy, just Sean. He was wearing a gray sweater in court yesterday, just like a little, you know, Catholic schoolboy and actually was seen reading the Bible before the. OK. Um, okay.

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Uh, but she said the government has no place in Sean's bedroom that he can get angry. And there's been some domestic violence too, but that's not criminal racketeering. Baby oil is not a crime. Um, that essentially the theme of these women is

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Well, ask any woman or man who grew up in the 1970s. It used to be slathered all over us as we search for the perfect tan, which somehow both of my panelists today have managed to achieve. She said, and this is really this gets to the heart of it. Women, these women are adults who made their own choices.

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Same. OK, let's talk about Biden. There's this. This really is pretty shocking. What is in this Tapper book and not just Tapper, but Alex Thompson about Joe Biden. So Here's a couple of highlights. First of all, the Guardian, again, which got his hands on the book, says as follows.

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And here it has real parallels to the case that our other panelists frequent on Kelly's court is not is now trying to. That's the reason Arthur Aydala isn't here today, which is the Harvey Weinstein case. It's a similar defense. Like we know you don't like our defendant and we know he seems like a terrible man to you, but being a terrible man morally is not the same as committing a crime.

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And in both cases, both Diddy and Weinstein, you had women claiming that they were abused or raped or mistreated who kept coming back over and over and over in some cases for years. And I think that it may be hard, Garagos, for some jurors to get past that.

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You can understand if a man rapes a woman and she runs to the police, it's much harder to get your arms around why she would have a years-long relationship with this person. And that's an issue in both of these big trials.

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Oh, fascinating. Okay. Mark's got some insider information. He's just going to be a tease, not give it to us straight.

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I know. Our friend here got in trouble with the judge, even though he's not even a lawyer on this case. Only you, Garagos. You get called into the judge because he was mad about a comment you made on a podcast you do with Harvey Levin of TMZ. Oh, we've got your comment that got you in trouble. My team's way ahead of me. Let's hear it. Let's hear what you did.

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Joe Biden, according to David Plouffe, who worked to get Barack Obama elected and then came in late to, well, I mean, came in early-ish to help Kamala get elected, but was saying the whole process of Kamala happened too late. This is a quote. Joe Biden totally fucked us by leaving it too late to drop out of the 2024 presidential election.

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Well, let me just tell the audience first what the controversy is, even though, sadly, we're both on Garagos' side on this particular controversy because it would be much more fun if we could beat down on him. Um, so the judge Supermanian called you in there again, even though you're not a lawyer in this case, you're the father of a lawyer in this case.

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And obviously it seems you're consulting, but, uh, and he says to you, according to, um, I don't know the source for this article I'm reading from, um, oh, NBC news.

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that uh in your chamber in his chambers he'd be listening and watching you to make sure you don't say anything else that could interfere with a fair trial hi judge great to have you watching kelly's court i think this is ridiculous he said i think referring to the prosecution in this case is a six-pack of white women is outrageous this would not be tolerated in any court from any lawyer anywhere across the nation why why would what's why is he so offended at that comment mark

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I mean, most of the accusing witnesses against him are black, too. This is not this is not this is we're not going to OJ this case. Let's let's keep going here. I hear you on the defenses, but I have to say this. So he's been charged with racketeering, sex trafficking, transportation to engage in prostitution. These are very high bars, racketeering.

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sex trafficking and transportation to engage in prostitution. Now, Mark, I think Mark Iglar, now we're in business. Now I'm liking the prosecution's case better than on the RICO count because the defense was saying yesterday with respect to, because there was testimony from one of the sex workers repeat, like this guy, this guy is a witness in the case and his name is Daniel Phillips, Phillip.

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He was the second witness. The first was a security guard at the Intercontinental who was there in the aftermath of that beating where Sean Combs did beat down Cassie. We all watched it on camera. It was absolutely disgusting. He's a pig and I can't fucking stand him, but I'm open-minded to him not being a criminal, just saying in the way alleged here.

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Plouffe describes Harris's 107-day sprint against Donald Trump as, quote, a fucking nightmare. That's how we felt on the outside, but I think for different reasons. And it's all Biden, he adds. He totally effed us. Let's see.

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Daniel Phillip was witness number two, a male dancer. who said he received money repeatedly from Cassie, the woman who was beaten on that tape, to have sex with her in front of Diddy at the Gramercy Park Hotel. She opened the door in a red wig, that there was a man already there she claimed was her husband, said he would just watch them. the man had a bandana over his face and was wearing a hat.

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He was referred to as baby. It was Sean Combs. Um, he claimed that he was working in import export business. Uh, Cassie and Daniel had sex. He was getting paid for the sex. Danny was, did he watched and pleasured himself, baby oil all over each other. Did he complain? Not enough baby oil. He was obsessed with the baby oil. Um, that did he's daughters. Again, this is per long crime.

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left the room when the courtroom, when this testimony is being given, they didn't want to hear this about their father. His son stayed that no sexual protection was used that Cassie, um, messaged him after the fact for, forgive me, but a dick pic, um, that it happened multiple times over 2013 and 2014.

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He saw Diddy physically abusing Cassie, or at least heard him slapping her behind closed doors at doors. Diddy, um, would direct the sex saying, slow down, you know, finish off if you will here or there on her body. Cassie wanted him to urinate on, on her. And then I saw another report saying, did he instructed him to urinate? in her mouth, forgive me, this is very tawdry stuff.

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Um, and then Diddy would be pleasuring himself to it that they wanted a copy of Daniel's driver's license. And therefore he felt threatened or like Diddy could come back to hurt him that he urged Cassie to leave Diddy, um, saying that, you know, he's going to hurt you. This is, uh, I tried to explain to her she was in real danger if she stayed. Okay. So that's this guy's testimony.

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And the reason I'm going to UI Glash on this is that The defense to this seems to be he was paying these sex workers like Daniel, and there'll be others who claim that they were paid, I think. Well, there have been in the press. We'll see whether they actually call him. He was paying sex workers not for sex.

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but for their, and I quote, time and experience, time and experience, that it was not transportation to engage in prostitution so much as, I guess, to gain their expertise as sex workers to advise, I guess, on how it can be done in the most filthy, offensive ways possible. Thoughts on all that?

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They said, well, you remember that Plouffe had tweeted on X right after she lost that the Harris campaign had begun in a, quote, deep hole and later deleted his account because he got so much blowback for saying what was obviously true and goes even further, obviously, with those comments to the authors of this book.

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Not the prostitution, not the prostitution, Mark. Not that. Not transportation to engage in prostitution.

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What do you mean? The hooker's always involved and okay with it. She always consents.

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How is it not? How is he not the pimp in this scenario where he's paying this guy, Daniel, to come into the room at the Gramercy Park Hotel and have sex with Cassie in front of him? How is that not? How is that legal?

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How is it lawful, Mark Iglish, for Diddy in this alleged scenario to be hiring sex workers over the course of years and in some cases transporting them to his location to have sex with Cassie or other women right in front of him? How on earth is that legal?

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What do you mean may? Why are you wiggling? How is it legal? Everybody knows prostitution is illegal. It's no less illegal to order up the prostitute and have them come to your place and pay for them to have sex there.

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I'm not an expert on OnlyFans, but OnlyFans, my understanding is they get naked on camera and you pay to watch it.

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That's because your client or friend, your guy who you consider your close friend, is an absolute pig cretin who I desire to see suffer. So that's why I'm heated.

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The book describes how Plouffe had received calls from donors worried about Biden's diminishing energy, cognitive skills, and ability to deliver a speech. He in turn pressed the White House and Democratic Party on whether they felt sure that the then president could win another election and was repeatedly told he could. An unnamed senior aide admits we shielded him from his own staff.

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agree with you guys on this i see what you're saying you're saying the charge that was brought again against him may not the elements of it may not line up with those particular acts and i haven't looked at each element to see whether that's true but i i'm aware that you cannot you cannot do by phone what you could not do in person you're not allowed it's no more legal for the person to order the prostitute and pay him than it is to be the prostitute and do it period okay um let's keep going because the uh there's a lot of other things to talk about let's do menendez next

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Um, because that's another one. That's another Gary goes case. I can't keep up and not just Gary goes, but my lawyer and friend, Brian Friedman is now involved in trying to get your two clients out of jail on any number of ways.

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Like it, there's a, there's a few different ways now where you might be able to get them out because what originally happened was the old, the outgoing Gascon attorney said, you know what? I want to take another look at whether these guys should be held. Maybe we need to take a fresh look at this case. And it was clearly a ploy to stay in office. Well, he got booted.

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And now the new DA is like, nevermind, we don't want to do that. And you guys first said this new DA should recuse himself. He I think that's where all hell broke loose. Mark Guerra goes, what happened now? Do you, now do you want him? This guy, Hokeman, do you want him gone or don't you? Cause it seems like you then backed off of your motion to have him booted from the case.

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Quote, we attempted to shield him from his own staff, so many people did not realize the extent of the decline. Beginning in 2023, an unnamed Democratic strategist tells the author's It was an abomination, his decision to seek reelection. He stole an election from the Democratic Party. He stole it from the American people.

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But let me ask you, okay, so as I understand it, there are three... Let me just ask this first. There are three possibilities to get him out. One, that they're just re-sentenced. That's what George Gascon initiated last fall. The second is clemency from Governor Gavin Newsom. And the third is...

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a habeas corpus petition filed by you guys claiming that there's new evidence unearthed about the sexual abuse by Jose Menendez. Um, and we've discussed some of that in the past, like the Menudo, uh, singer who said he, he molested me and so on. So which one is the, is your best path here, Mark? Which one is the most active and most likely to get them out?

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OK, there's a lot more to get to. I want to do quickly a fast one, which is the Blake Lively, Justin Baldoni case, which is being handled for Baldoni by our friend Brian Friedman. And he has just dropped a subpoena on Taylor Swift saying she needs to participate in this trial because she was alleged to have been at this trial.

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meeting at Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds' New York City penthouse, where they discussed a scene that Blake had rewritten. Justin has said that the meeting got very heated and that he felt ambushed because Blake's husband, Ryan Reynolds, was there. And then Taylor Swift showed up. Not to mention Blake also

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And they revealed that President Obama visited the White House in 2023, warning Joe Biden, make sure you can win. Make sure you can win. On top of that, Axios reports that Biden's aides discussed Biden's using a wheelchair if he were reelected.

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sent Justin a text message claiming Taylor Swift was her dragon and she, Blake Lively, was Khaleesi. And so to me, I'm not surprised at all. I mean, I'm biased towards Brian, I admit, but I actually don't find this surprising at all. I think most lawyers would subpoena a witness to this critical meeting.

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And the fact that she's Taylor Swift doesn't allow her to be treated any differently from somebody who is named Barbara or... Taylor, I guess, Taylor Smith instead of Taylor Swift. I'll start with you on that, Gary Goss.

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Do they care, Eichlar, that it's one of the biggest stars in the world? Will the judge factor that in when deciding whether or not she should be forced to testify in this case?

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So, but, well, how does it end then? Because she's suing Justin, Justin's suing the New York Times, and has he also brought a counterclaim against her? I'm trying to remember the specifics. He's definitely suing the New York Times.

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They understood they could not do it until after the election, particularly because of the significant degeneration of his spine and his aides' alarm over it as he sought a second term at age 81. His aides believed it was politically untenable to have Biden use a wheelchair during the reelection campaign, but they understood he was likely to need it afterward.

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I've told the audiences before, but I met Brian Friedman when he was suing me. He was suing me. He wasn't the plaintiff, but he was the lawyer for somebody who was suing me. It was a dispute I had with a former agent. And, um, he took my deposition at the beginning. I was like, I can't stand this guy. I want to punch him in the face.

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And by the end of that deposition, I was like, I'm in love with him. I need to know him on a personal level. He's like one of my favorite people ever. And a beautiful friendship was born. But when he was still adverse to me, we had a mediation and to try to settle whenever you're like on the way toward litigation, usually do a mediation. And then ultimately you either have an arbitration or trial.

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So we went to the mediation and he showed up, he flew all the way in from California. He flew all the way in. We talked to this retired judge and like, all right, this is whatever I said, what I thought. And then he went over to talk to Brian Friedman who represented the other side.

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He came back to us within 30 seconds and like they hadn't moved at all, like nothing, not even a good faith, you know, movement, which is, you know, we both thought we were totally right. And, uh, I'm like, well, what did he say? And he goes, you know, basically telling us to pound sand. And I'm like, well, what what did you say?

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And the mediator had said to him, like, what are you doing here then, Mr. Friedman? And he said, I love to visit New York this time of year. I just love New York. I'm like, I want to kill him. So that's he doesn't care. I don't think the mediation is going to pressure Brian into doing anything he doesn't think is in Justin's best interests.

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And, you know, whenever I look at Blake Lively now, as she continues this self immolating, all I can think is that line from what's his name? Jack Nicholson from A Few Good Men. You effed with the wrong Marine. You effed with the wrong Marine. That's how I feel about Blake Lively versus Justin Baldoni. Okay, let's keep going. Let's do Kohlberger, Mark Eichler, because this is a big one.

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The allegations that Dateline and Keith Morrison, as their lead reporter on it, broke this past Friday are just stunning. And though I can't stand NBC, I like the crew at Dateline, so we're allowed to discuss them favorably. They got a lot of new exclusive details about this case as it barrels toward trial this summer.

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And they include the detail that President Biden's aides were so worried about his, quote, physical deterioration beginning in 2023 that that they discussed plans to potentially use a wheelchair if he were reelected, but understood that they could not put him in one during the campaign because it would be politically devastating.

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First of all, they revealed that—this is disturbing—that Kohlberger allegedly—this is upsetting—carved the legs of Ethan Chapin. They described this murder of these four Idaho college students back in November of 2023 as I always stumble on whether it was 23 or 22, it's been so long now, 22.

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that he went, the allegation that Brian Colbert went at his house, that he was casing the house, that he went by the house multiple times that night, including multiple times in the 3 a.m. hour. The murders happened in the 4 a.m. hour between like 4.06 and 4.19 a.m.

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That he went in through the sliding door of the second floor, which we know, which is sort of the ground floor, that he went right upstairs, that the main target was not Kaylee Gonsalves, which is what some of us previously believed and had been told, but was Maddie Mogan,

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who was in bed with Kaylee, they were best friends and sleeping in the same bed, that it was Maddie Mogan, that unfortunately Kaylee, who was there visiting, was collateral damage in the moment, that he killed the two of them and that they believe that,

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that he then was spotted by Zanna Kernodle, who was down one floor as he was leaving, that he went to kill her, did kill her in the hallway that they fought, that she fought for her life, that then Ethan Chapin was asleep And either slept through this. It was unclear to me exactly what the sequence was, but he then murdered Ethan Chapin with his knife and quote carved.

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And here is the response from Team Biden to that report in Axios. So far, we are still waiting for someone, anyone to point out where Joe Biden had to make a presidential decision or make a presidential address where he was unable to do his job because of mental decline. In fact, the evidence points to the opposite. He was a very effective president.

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And they make a point in the Dateline show of saying it was a carving. This young man's legs, which is just beyond sick, then went to leave, bumped into the one surviving roommate and died. She heard him say something effective. Don't worry, you'll be okay. And she just froze.

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He left and immediately she and the other surviving roommate who was down the hall or on a different floor started texting. They knew immediately something terrible had happened. It was apparent to those two roommates who lived like that. They texted for the next couple of hours, and then the texting resumed. Very strange sequence of events there.

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But also pointing out that he had all these bikini shots of girls around his campus and the Idaho campus on his phone, buxom girls in bikinis, was Googling things. Ted Bundy and stories about Ted Bundy took a lookalike photo of himself looking like Ted Bundy, Mark. I mean, we can get into some more of the details, but the case against him, just it's even stronger than we knew.

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The, um, we'll go through some of it in more detail. And let's be honest, we haven't heard as much from the defense. Dateline didn't really play up how the defense is going to handle each of these. They did feature Howard Bloom, who's on this show a lot, who is very fair to the defense. Not as fair as Brian's fans want him to be, but I think he's very fair.

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But my point is simply, we haven't been given like a close-up preview of the defense and how they're going to argue all this.

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Yeah. I mean, it's not abnormal for young college age men to have pictures of beautiful girls on their phone. It's also not unusual after this crime happened for any American to Google Idaho murders, which they found him doing. Like that doesn't make you the killer. I certainly did it. So like that, some of it is more innocuous, but you know, some of it is.

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Yeah, deeply. And we got more on the car footage, his car on the night in question. Here is Sat 27.

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OK, and then there's more. They had on an FBI profiler named Greg Cooper, who spoke to a little bit more about this. Watch. It's not 28.

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Even Dave Weigel, a leftist, is online saying they had six months to come up with a statement. They knew these books were coming and this is that's where they landed. point to a decision that he made or couldn't make because of mental decline. So what do you make of it all?

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Does that even come in, though, the fact that he was Googling Ted Bundy and took a lookalike picture of himself as Ted Bundy?

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Well, what on what ground is it relevant? He's interested. A lot of people are interested in true crime and serial killers. I mean, I can see the defense actually keeping this out.

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Hmm. Hmm. It's not good. Um, okay. There's more weeks before the murders. He searched for dozens of photos of female students from both Washington state and university of Idaho and pictures from some of these accounts were of friends or followers of the three female victims. they don't allege that they were of those three female victims. So that that's interesting. He in late September, 2022.

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So this is two months before the murders. Um, he was a PhD student at nearby Washington state university. He searched terms such as sociopathic traits in college student and pornography containing keywords, drugged and sleeping. And And, you know, Mark, as far as we know, there was no sexual assault. I mean, honestly, I don't think there was time for a sexual assault.

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The murders took place since like over 12 minutes, 12 to like 18 minutes at the most, and he killed four people. But one does wonder if he's searching that... whether he had some other plan, you know, if he hadn't found Maddie Mogan in bed with another woman, he, we also had to kill like, what, what was he planning in October, 2022, he's getting closer to the murders.

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He searched, can psychopaths behave politically? pro-socially, which is very disturbing. But the thing is, Mark, a lot of this, the defense is just going to say he was a PhD student in criminology. Of course he was interested in Ted Bundy, the murders, and questions about psychopaths and sociopaths.

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The K-bar knife, you mentioned that the knife sheath was left behind. Dayline speculated that it may have fallen out in a struggle. It may have been in the context of that struggle that happened on the second floor. But my understanding was that they found that with the first two victims on the third floor, Maddie and Kaylee. So I'm not sure. Now, it raised questions for me.

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Was the knife sheath found... underneath one of the two girls and their bodies? Or was it down on the floor beneath them with Ethan and Zanna lost during a struggle? We'll find out more this summer when we hear actual testimony as opposed to speculations. But this was revealed prior to Dateline. We found out that after the murders, he had searched on Amazon for another K-bar knife.

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which is just shocking. And Howard Bloom broke that news here on the show. He talked to us about it. And I asked him, do you think he was looking for a replacement knife sheath so that if the cops came, he was like, that's not mine. And he said maybe, or maybe he wanted to commit more murder and he had disposed of the murder weapon and it worked so well, he was looking to do it again.

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Okay, so that last part is interesting that he clicked buy now because what Howard told us was that Ann Taylor, the lawyer, had initially suggested, oh, that K-Bar knife thing only came up in his Amazon because if they hear you mention knife in the context of a conversation, they do targeted ads. But if he clicked buy now, it's a different story.

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Well, what if you're the defense lawyer and you're thrilled that they did not find a murder weapon, right? Somehow he did manage to get rid of the knife. If in fact he did it, he denies doing it. How damning is it that then of all the knives in the world, two days, 48 hours after the murders, he's online searching for the exact knife that happened to have been used in this quadruple homicide.

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Well, do you think they'll take that? So far, the reports are he doesn't want to plea. There's absolutely no discussion of a plea. And if anything, his lawyer is maybe planting the seeds for an argument that he's too incompetent to make this call. He's too there's something wrong with him and that he should she should be able to allow to like trump him into negotiating a plea.

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So, so far, we don't believe there's going to be a plea because he doesn't want one. I don't know where the prosecution stands, but do you believe the prosecution would take a life plea in exchange for a trial when they have evidence this strong and they want the death penalty?

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You know, finally, Mark, there was reporting in the Dateline special that Kohlberger called his father's phone the morning after the murders, like two hours after the murders, 6 a.m. in the 6 a.m. hour. I mean, the bodies were still warm at that point. It's like very early in that morning and had a long conversation with him between 30 and 60 minutes. We think it was him.

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They point out his phone could have been, you know, could have been somebody else in the house. That for the first time raised for me the question of, are we looking at a, like a Gabby Petito situation where the Brian Laundrie, like he called his parents, his parents knew that seems clear. That's our opinion that they knew.

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But like for the first time I started to have questions about whether this dad or somebody in his family received some sort of a confession from him or some, something that really gave them cause to believe he did it.

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Well, Mark, that's not additive. Of course, you don't know. I don't know either. I'm asking you to how that will be spun and argued in court.

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I feel like we have to get to the bottom of what the father knew and when he knew it. And the rest of the family, too, is there. Howard Bloom, too, was reporting that Brian's sister started to suspect he did it and that the father may have as well, at least at least on that cross-country trip back home. All right, Mark. Thank you.

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The extent of the fraud that was committed upon us by these absolute ne'er-do-wells remains shocking. We should not lose our ability to be shocked just because he lost. This is a true outrage, what they tried to do to us. F these people and their massive fraud. Where is the commission that's getting to the bottom of all this?

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Oh, no, I'm I'm interested in the details. I mean, the fact the wheelchair that he was about to go into a wheelchair, but they were just like, just get across the finish line to the election. We can't put him in that. Good gracious. Right. And it is interesting to finally see. Like, I've been waiting for the book about the Kamala Harris disaster and what happened during that camp.

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That's never come out. You know, this is getting a little closer with David Plouffe talking about it being an effing disaster. What? But that's not about her. That's about Biden waiting too long. But Biden's still denying that he denied that just last week when he went on The View. So it is there is some advantage to having these Democrat insiders go beat up their own side.

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No, that's why last week I was ripping Alex Thompson, who got this award for, you know, his coverage of the Biden mental infirmity, which he did more than any other on the left. But when he accepted the award at the radio or the Washington, the White House Correspondents Dinner, he was like, we missed it. You know that the people in this room miss it. You didn't miss a lot.

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I totally agree with you. Now, wait, do you want to shock? You said that that was your only shock. I'm going to give you another shock. Ready for this?

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No, that really would be amazing. Oh, OK. I was like, that would be amazing. He'd be amazing. Meghan Markle would be amazing. No, Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson.

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We did a whole episode on it in June of 2022. A whole episode. I mean, it's rare for us to devote an entire episode to something like this. No, but you assume too little of your humble correspondent because I am going to ask all the tough questions of both of them. I'm not saying you're not going to ask tough questions. I'm just...

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I mean, I'm starting to turn my view on these leftist reporters who are suddenly doing these books because they actually do have good connections inside Team Biden. And we're getting some very telling details. Why didn't we know this in 2023? We're going to get into all of this with Buck Sexton. He's our first guest today, co-host of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, and a new dad.

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Pope Leo was bishop in the Diocese of Chiclayo, Peru from 2015 to 2023. This video of seminarians within the diocese posted by Semifabian24 on TikTok. Clearly, Leo left an impression. And that'll do it for your AM update. I'm Megyn Kelly. Join me back here for The Megyn Kelly Show, live on SiriusXM Triumph Channel 111 at noon east, on YouTube.com slash Megyn Kelly, and on all podcast platforms.

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President Trump signs an executive order he says will be one of the most impactful orders ever signed, aimed at reducing drug prices some up to 80 percent for American consumers.

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The order seeking to lower prescription drug prices by as much as 80%, primarily by tying U.S. prices to those paid for the same drugs in other developed countries, a fundamental change to how the U.S. negotiates drug prices. The U.S. has less than 5% of the world's population, yet it generates around three quarters of global pharmaceutical profits.

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Astronomically high drug prices consistently sparking bipartisan outrage among U.S. lawmakers, even as Democrats and Republicans historically clashed over how to fix it. American consumers pay many times over what people in other countries pay for the same drug made in the same factory.

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For example, American website GoodRx.com ranges a twin pack of EpiPens from $650 to $750 without insurance versus an online UK pharmacy listing the same two-pack at $112. Yahoo Finance reporting weight loss drug Wegovi costs about $1,300 in the U.S., compared to $140 in Germany. President Trump saying the U.S. will no longer accept the status quo.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Tuesday, May 13th, 2025, and this is your AM Update.

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Pharma stocks actually rising in response to the announcement, as the Trump administration also assigns some of the blame for high US prices on other countries for forcing unfairly low prices in their markets. sending the drug manufacturers to recoup costs from Americans, the president specifically naming the EU as one of the worst offenders. Progressive news site Vox breaks down how the U.S.

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system works compared to most other developed countries.

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The Trump trade team announcing a temporary deal with China, reducing reciprocal tariffs for 90 days as both sides work toward a new trade agreement. New details on the Qatari government's lavish gift to the Trump White House come into focus as President Trump weighs in. And the last known living American hostage released from Hamas custody.

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For decades, the prevailing logic in U.S. healthcare held that high drug prices were the price of innovation. The steep costs for American consumers were seen as an unfortunate but necessary side effect. with limited political will to change the system until now.

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From the executive order, quote, drug manufacturers, rather than seeking to equalize evident price discrimination, agree to other countries' demands for low prices and simultaneously fight against the ability for public and private payers in the U.S. to negotiate the best prices for patients.

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The inflated prices in the United States fuel global innovation while foreign health systems get a free ride. NIH head Dr. Jay Bhattacharya further elaborating from the Oval.

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Dr. Oz, head of Medicare and Medicaid, comparing the strategy to President Trump's strategy with NATO. Other countries will have to pay a little more, but the U.S. will get a long-needed and deserved break. Barron's Magazine referring to the order as a blessing in disguise for pharma companies, saying it is, quote, fundamentally restructuring the U.S.

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drug industry in a way that hurts pharmacy benefit managers. Pharmacy benefit managers are middlemen in the prescription drug supply chain, managing which drugs are covered under insurance, how much they cost, and what patients will pay. President Trump saying this order will provide a workaround to those managers who are also disliked by Big Pharma.

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The order provides a 30-day window for the drug companies to begin negotiating with HHS. If Secretary Kennedy does not feel adequate progress has been made on negotiations to reduce prices within that time, the executive order says the secretary may then simply impose something called most favored nation pricing, which means using the regulatory process to tie U.S.

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prices to the lowest price paid by any major developed country. Among other actions in the order, it directs the FDA to look into increasing drug exports from other countries and directs the DOJ and Federal Trade Commission to crack down on anti-competitive actions forcing artificially high prices.

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President Trump attempted a similar, though less expansive, executive order in his first administration, and it was blocked by a court as a usurpation of Congress's power. We'll see if Big Pharma files a similar legal challenge here. On Sunday, the Trump administration announcing a deal after trade negotiations with China. Over the weekend, the U.S.

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team, headed by Treasury Secretary Scott Besson, meeting face-to-face with Chinese negotiators, agreeing to a 90-day pause on the reciprocal tariffs beginning this Wednesday. Both nations agreeing to cut tariffs by 115%. China lowering tariffs on U.S. goods to 10%. The U.S. lowering tariffs on Chinese goods to 30%. That's 10% plus a 20% tariff

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to message to the Chinese that we are serious about stopping the fentanyl they're sending here, typically via Mexican cartels. Ongoing talks will focus on opening Chinese markets to American-made goods and on cooperation in the war against fentanyl, a war the Chinese have been waging against us. President Trump on Monday confirming that higher tariffs will remain in place for Chinese imports

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in key national security sectors like cars, steel, and aluminum. Secretary Besant framing the goal this way, open markets for U.S. exports and bring home manufacturing for critical materials.

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Markets ripping in response to the announcement. The Dow Jones, Nasdaq and S&P 500 each shooting straight up. President Trump reacting positively to this first phase of negotiations from the Oval.

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President Trump set to speak with Chinese President Xi Jinping later this week. Coming up, President Trump slams ABC's reporting on the $400 million luxury jet the Qatari government is preparing to gift our government. And the last living American hostage is released from Hamas custody as President Trump promises to keep working toward the release of the deceased Americans still held in Gaza.

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That's donewithdebt.com, donewithdebt.com. President Trump on Monday offering new details on plans to accept a luxury Boeing 747 dubbed a palace in the sky from the Qatari government following backlash, including from several Republicans who say the gift smacks of impropriety. Mr. Trump responding at a press conference yesterday.

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It's a gift to the Department of Defense. The president also clarifying that the plane will not be put to personal use after he leaves office.

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That could help the president's argument that this was not a gift to him personally, even if it would eventually wind up in the Trump presidential library, helping him to potentially avoid constitutional muster. Some critics on the right still feel Qatar is too questionable a friend to accept a $400 million plane from. The last known living U.S.

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hostage held by Hamas, Idan Alexander, released on Monday after more than 19 months in the custody of the terrorist organization. The 21-year-old transferred from Hamas to the Red Cross to Israeli Special Forces, where he was then brought back into Israel for medical evaluation.

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Though born in Tel Aviv, Mr. Alexander was raised in New Jersey, joining the Israeli Defense Forces straight out of high school. He was captured by Hamas at his military base during the October 7th attack.

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On Sunday, the Alexander family releasing this statement, quote, Today, on Mother's Day, we receive the greatest gift imaginable, news that our beautiful son, Idan, is returning home after 583 days in captivity in Gaza. We express our deepest gratitude to President Trump, Steve Witkoff, and the U.S. administration for their tireless work to make this happen.

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The moment here when Mr. Alexander's mother was able to speak to her son by phone for the first time.

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En route home to a tearful family reunion, Idan held up a sign on board the plane reading, Thank you, President Trump. Speaking from the Oval, President Trump saying the U.S. will work to recover the bodies of deceased Americans still held in Gaza.

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U.S. officials say the bodies of four Americans are still being held by Hamas. President Trump is offering to meet with Mr. Alexander in Qatar later this week during his Middle East trip, if Mr. Alexander is feeling up to it.

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Peruvian fans of Robert Prevost, now better known as Pope Leo XIV, reacting like fans at a World Cup championship as they heard their former priest's name announced as the new pontiff.

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I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and episode two of our special series, Megyn Kelly Investigates, on the disappearance of baby Lisa. How could a baby vanish in the middle of the night? It's a question that has lasted more than 12 years after the disappearance of then 10-month-old baby Lisa Irwin.

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But no reports, as far as we know, of people saying they did hear the dog barking?

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So no barking could mean that somebody carrying baby Lisa was familiar to the dog or did not go through the woods behind the house at all, but instead went out the front, down North Lister, toward the corner where the Parscals would see. Along that route, there was another dog, again, reporter Jim Spellman.

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After hours and hours of police interviews that felt more like an interrogation, Deborah and Jeremy decide there's nothing left to say. Deception expert Phil Houston has interviewed Deborah at length, finding her credible. And I asked Deborah some hard questions about her drinking that night as I was covering the story for Fox News 12 years ago.

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So according to Mary Hurt, that would place John Jersey Tanko in the neighborhood that night.

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They've come out and said and they said early on that they've moved on from him. They don't believe he's their guy. Why would they do that?

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In fact, Lisa Parscale told us she and her husband told police they did not think the man carrying the baby looked like John Tanko. But they couldn't be 100% certain. Eyewitness identification is a tricky business. And in Cindy Short's mind, this was not enough.

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they should have done more to look at him. For several days, attorney Cindy Shore and reporter Jim Spellman, independent of one another, searched for an elusive John Tanko, trying to get his side of the story.

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Megan Wright was 20 years old, new to Kansas City, and was John Tanko's girlfriend for a time. They had since broken up.

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Thanks to anonymous benefactor Christy Schiller, there's now a $100,000 reward. And Lisa has been missing for 10 days. Hi. The scrutiny on Debra is relentless.

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That was the dumpster fire on the night of baby Lisa's disappearance. People zeroed in on this because many believed Megan Wright still lived in that townhouse near the dumpster and thought Tanko, if he had the baby, may have been trying to go see her. In fact, Megan Wright lived farther away by at least another mile. And here's one more piece of information that made for a possible motive.

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Back then, Megan Wright was a confused young woman, not completely coming clean about her own drug use.

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Meth, from what I understand. She's had a hard life, struggling with abuse, addiction, and mental illness. And so, after so much scrutiny and criticism in the months after baby Lisa went missing, Megan vowed not to talk about this case again. Last October, she decided to make an exception and spoke with me for two hours, much of it tearful. You don't have to be here.

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You could easily have said to me, I don't want to do it. It's traumatic for me and I don't want to go back over it. You're doing it because you want. It is. Will you tell us why you're doing it?

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That's the goal. She says she has always wanted children, but that she knew she did not want them with John Tanko. Did Jersey ever offer to get a baby for you? No. you know, there were reports about, you know, whether this was, he did this and that was his motivation.

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How likely is it, do you think, that Jersey, John Tanko, was involved in baby Lisa's disappearance?

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He knows who has children. John Jersey Tanko was interviewed by the police, and he denies any involvement in the disappearance of baby Lisa. The case remains open. Now I'm back with my go-to experts, Phil Houston and Bill Stanton. Let's talk about intruder. Now we have a name, potential name. Maybe, maybe John Tanko, the handyman, the good little burglar across the street.

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The thing about the neighbors to the Irwins, the Parscals, both of them, seeing a man with a baby is huge. It's huge. Why doesn't that steer the whole investigation in a different direction when the Parscals tell both the husband and the wife, tell the cops they saw a man with a baby?

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Bill Stanton is steering the media away from Debra and toward the search for an intruder.

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And then there's a third person who sees a man with a baby, this guy Mike Thompson. And yet they seem to dismiss that as well.

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And I tell you, one of my main things about and looking back at this is the problem of the 24-7 media requirements. The media has so much time to fill and they have no answers in a case like this. So they just sit and they speculate all day long. All the channels do it. All the anchors do it. All the shows do it.

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And at the same time, you've got the police who are going with the stats that the parents always do it, putting out these little nuggets like the parents have stopped cooperating. Her story changed, which is true. You know, Deborah's. the dogs alerted, right? The cops were telling people, essentially, it was her.

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And the media checks all skepticism because that's an exciting story that they believe anyway. And it will fill the 24-7 cable news requirements. I mean, Bill, you've been part of that ecosystem, as have I. That's how it works.

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Okay, so Phil, if the Parscals really did see a man with a baby, both the husband and the wife saw a man with a baby, but did not think that man looked like anyone they knew, that's a very good fact for John Tanko. And is it the kind of fact that might lead sophisticated law enforcement or anybody to say, that's not him. That's not our guy.

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Maybe that's why they ultimately proved not so interested in Tanko.

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Thanks to Christie and her team, Joe Takapina, a big gun in the world of defense attorneys, takes up Debra's case. If that name sounds familiar to you, it may be because he has defended former President Donald Trump in New York criminal court.

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In this episode, I will be joined just a bit later by investigators Bill Stanton and Phil Houston with their expert analysis. But first, we return to Kansas City, Missouri, where new clues emerge and police begin to look beyond Lisa's mother for some answers. Here's one way to clean up your medicine cabinet this season and replace toxin-filled conventional products with more natural options.

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And let's not forget what Jim Spellman told us about the dog not barking. and about the neighbor who's claiming she knew Jersey and she saw him take the dog. I don't know whether that's true or not, but that's exactly the kind of thing that would get a red flag going for a cop. Back to the theory of it was a planned burglary, potentially just to take the phones.

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The baby could have been an afterthought, but was that looked into?

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Because on the one hand, you have them ruling out a lot of very alarming evidence about a potential theft of a child. And on the other hand, you have them ignoring many facts about Debra that work toward her benefit, like you interviewing her.

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and saying what you said, like the fact that where would she have taken the baby and disposed of the baby that quickly in order to get back into her bed with no footprints or evidence that she had left the house, the boys hearing absolutely nothing, and no history of abuse. That's an important piece, too.

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Takapina hired local attorney Cindy Short to handle things on the ground in Kansas City.

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It's not like Deborah was some child abuser who had been bringing the baby into the ER over and over. There's zero evidence to that effect, by all accounts, a loving mother. You know, this this makes perfect sense that they were running the stats, the odds with her to the exclusion of all this other evidence. Coming up, remember the stolen cell phones? They could be key to this entire case.

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Plus, new theories emerge that we will explore for the first time tomorrow. Episode three. But first, if you're watching right now, please take a look at this picture of Lisa as she might look now. If you're listening, you can see the photo on YouTube or just go to megankelly.com. If you see her or think you might have any information that can help find her, please write to me.

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The address is megan, M-E-G-Y-N, at megankelly.com. You can also pass along tips on the baby Lisa story to the Kansas City Police Department or encourage them to get active on this case. That would be very helpful. Reach out at kccrimestoppers.com, kccrimestoppers.com, or call them at 816-474-2700. Tips, T-I-P-S, that's 816-474-8477.

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Cindy ran an all-female firm. 17 women went to work on this case.

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Cindy Short had another reason to be so deeply committed to finding Lisa. As a young girl, Cindy was very nearly abducted by a stranger in her own home. Is it possible, Cindy, I mean, is it actually possible someone just walked in there, took no other measures besides wearing a pair of gloves, took the baby, walked in the front door, walked out the front door, and that was it?

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Reporter Jim Spellman showed viewers just how dark by turning off the camera light. And if someone got in and out, could they do it without a trace? I mean, I imagine one of the things that they were doing was taking fingerprints. I never heard anything about a recovery on any sort of a hit on the fingerprints.

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Cindy Short pointed out at the time that the carpet inside the house remained intact, meaning no sample left the house, calling into question whether the cadaver alert...

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Meanwhile, what else and who else was being investigated? Remember Onesto and Lisa Parscale, the couple who lived around the corner from Deborah and Jeremy? They both say they saw a man with a baby walking down the street just after midnight.

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But the fact that she and her husband verified that they were discussing a baby being carried by a man the night before, that came into their heads before they knew there was a missing baby, definitely speaks to their credibility. Absolutely. Here's Lisa Parscale talking to a local reporter.

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There was the grainy BP gas station surveillance footage and the suspicious dumpster fire just over a small grassy hill several hundred yards from the Irwin home. There were reports of baby clothes turning up in the dumpster. They did not appear to be baby Lisa's and nothing came of that. And then another person, Mike Thompson, comes forward to say that at 4 a.m.

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a few miles away, he saw a man carrying a baby. Can you talk about that next sighting with Mike Thompson? Again, attorney Cindy Short.

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And so he really couldn't do that. When Mike heard about baby Lisa being missing, he told his cousin what he had seen.

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Now, three different people, the Parscals and Mike Thompson, say they saw a man carrying a baby in the early morning hours of October 4, 2011. Bill Stanton on CNN back then.

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So, if it was the same man who was spotted with the baby walking past the Parscale's house, who may have had something to do with the dumpster fire in the nearby townhouse development, who then went through the woods to emerge near the BP gas station, and then went on to where Mike Thompson spotted him, that would mean the man spent close to four hours within a three-mile radius, which makes you wonder what else could have been happening during that time.

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And who is this man? Police looked at the people who got closest to Deborah and Lisa that night. Reporter Jim Spellman.

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That's Samantha and James Brando. Their family was close with the Irwins. But that day, the Brandos were separating, something they had decided earlier that afternoon. James moved out just hours after Deborah and Samantha started drinking. Deborah remembers the conversation.

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Police investigated and questioned James Brando. Then there was Shane Beegley, the 33-year-old landscaper who was the grandson of a neighbor. He dropped by while Debra was drinking with Samantha Brando. And now someone new enters into the mix, John Tanko, nicknamed Jersey, a handyman with a criminal background who had been working on a neighbor's lawn.

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Police immediately ruled out Shane Beegley as a suspect, while James Brando stayed on everyone's radar.

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Well, some people believe he might have had something to do with it. James, her soon to be ex-husband, maybe because he was angry that you were there, a confidant. You know, I've heard people speculate along those lines. Deborah Bradley.

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James Brando was ruled out. Attorney Cindy Short always had one person in mind. The primary person for me was John Tanko.

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Speculation was that Tanko might have been wearing gloves for his handyman and yard work and would not leave fingerprints or cells from the skin.

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There were a few dogs in the neighborhood, notably the house next door on the right side of the Irwin house. That dog was notorious for barking at strangers from a fenced-in area in its family's backyard, as reporter Jim Spellman demonstrated at the time.

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Get some hot salt before it's all gone. You're going to thank me. House Speaker Mike Johnson likely to hold a vote later today on a six-month funding extension to avert a government shutdown. The deadline, 11.59 p.m. on Friday, just three days away. With the House so narrowly divided and the funding bill facing full Democratic opposition, Speaker Johnson has little room for error.

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As the shutdown deadline looms, Borders are Tom Homan warning Congress, immigration officials are running out of money fast.

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Republican congressman from Kentucky, Thomas Massey, remaining firm in his opposition, which means every other GOP member must vote yes in order for this bill to pass the House. Three GOP congressmen expressing some hesitation. Texas Congressman Tony Gonzalez telling CNN he'll make a game time decision.

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Political reporting Pennsylvania Congressman Brian Fitzpatrick and Florida Congressman Corey Mills also on the fence. Speaker Johnson, however, appearing confident he has the votes, telling reporters, quote, No one wants to shut the government down, and we are doing the responsible thing as Republicans. Speaker Johnson saying it will then be up to Senate Democrats to do the right thing.

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However, the hurdle to clear the Senate, getting a little bit higher with Republican Senator from Kentucky Rand Paul's announcement, he will be voting no. Senator Paul posting on X, quote, the bill continues spending at the inflated pandemic levels and will add $2 trillion to the debt this year. Count me as a hell no.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Tuesday, March 11th, 2025, and this is your AM Update.

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Democrats oppose the bill, saying it takes away the power of the purse from Congress, handing too much control to President Trump. As the fight over government spending continues, the strain on immigration enforcement is becoming more urgent.

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The CR contains nearly $500 million in additional funding for immigration enforcement. Officials say they need the funding to expedite the removal of criminal aliens from within the country. Homeland Security Today announcing an upgrade to the Biden administration's CBP One app. The app allowed more than one million migrants to apply for asylum prior to arrival in the U.S.

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Once processed, migrants were released on parole, often with appointments scheduled years down the road. That program ended following a day one executive order from President Trump. The revamped app, now called CBP Home, allows illegal aliens a streamlined process to self-deport.

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Trump officials seeking to ease economic concerns as markets tumble amid tariff wars. Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau finally ousted by his party. And what's behind the sudden rise of Democrat Senator Chris Murphy? All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update. Okay, so you're thinking about what to get that person who has everything.

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Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem writing in a statement, quote, the CBP Home app gives aliens the option to leave now and self-deport so they may still have the opportunity to return legally in the future and live the American dream. Secretary Noem going on to say, if the migrants do not self-deport, they will be found, deported, and never allowed to return.

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Wall Street starting the week in the red as recession fears shake investor confidence. The Dow dropping nearly 900 points, S&P 500 dropping 2.7%, and the Nasdaq falling 4%. On Sunday, President Trump downplaying concerns to Fox Business. Are you expecting a recession this year?

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These comments after a rough week in the markets. Investors worrying over tariff wars and the impending possible government shutdown. On Friday, the S&P closed down 3.1%, its worst weekly drop in six months. Trump administration officials, like their boss, insisting the short-term pain is necessary to build a more resilient economy.

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Treasury Secretary Scott Besant telling CNBC that the administration's goal is to shift from government-driven growth to a private sector-led economy.

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The center of this strategy? Tariffs. On Sunday, President Trump doubling down on what he calls the most beautiful word in the dictionary.

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For now, the markets remain skeptical. Coming up, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau officially replaced as head of his party. And what's behind the sudden media rise of Democrat Senator Chris Murphy? Is he really a party star? All that and more in just a moment. There is a real and growing threat to your home and your equity, and it's called title fraud. Here's how it works.

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Former banker Mark Carney is set to become Canada's next prime minister, securing 86% of the vote in the Liberal Party leadership election. Mr. Carney will succeed current Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, who announced his resignation from the post in January upon the election of a new party leader.

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Under Mr. Trudeau's leadership, the Liberal Party suffered declining support amid sluggish economic numbers and internal party turmoil. The resignation of Finance Minister Chrystia Freeland, who was critical of Mr. Trudeau, the final breaking point in Mr. Trudeau's nine-year run atop the government. Mr. Carney previously led the Bank of Canada and the Bank of England.

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Canadian liberals believe he's the man for the moment as their country faces an existential threat posed by President Trump's tariffs. In his victory speech, Mr. Carney rejecting President Trump's suggestions of making Canada the 51st state.

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Under the country's parliamentary system, Mr. Carney is expected to call a national election in the coming weeks, seeking a mandate from all voters. Mr. Carney poised to run against the head of the opposition party, conservative leader Pierre Pallievre.

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Under Mr. Polyev's leadership, the Conservative Party receiving a surge in support, flipping two historically liberal districts in shocking special election upsets. Voters embracing Mr. Polyev's populist message.

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Mr. Polyev coming out of the gate swinging against Mr. Carney on Monday.

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Despite Mr. Polyev's double-digit lead against Mr. Trudeau, the Trump tariffs inspiring a surge in support for the Liberal Party. The Liberals, whose approval rating had been hovering in the low 20s, climbing to higher than 30%, up 10 points since January.

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Canadian pollster the Angus Reid Institute finds 43% of Canadians believe Mark Carney would better handle negotiations with President Trump versus 34% who choose Pierre Polyev. The Liberal Party seeking to capitalize on this momentum as more Trump tariffs are set to kick in April 2nd.

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Secretary of State Marco Rubio in Saudi Arabia today meeting with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky's top aide, Andrei Yermak, in an effort to revive peace talks. The AP reporting two anonymous sources say the Ukrainian delegation is ready to sign the rare earth minerals deal during the talks.

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The Ukrainians are likely also to propose an air and sea ceasefire in Ukraine, a move meant to convince President Trump the Ukrainians are serious about reaching peace with the Russians. Special Envoy Steve Witkoff expressing optimism that a deal will be made.

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While en route to Saudi Arabia, Secretary Rubio, speaking to reporters, stated that depending on the outcome of the talks, the U.S. may be prepared to lift the pause on military aid and intelligence sharing that President Trump put in place after the Oval Office tension. He added that his visit aims to assess what concessions the Ukrainians are willing to make.

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As Democrats struggle to find their footing in the second Trump administration, Democrat Senator from Connecticut Chris Murphy attempting to fill the void with digital content. Senator Murphy's social media videos, often selfie style, regularly going viral, despite his status as a rather middling lawmaker.

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The New York Times reporting in February, Senator Murphy doubling his Instagram followers over the previous two months, racking up almost 30 million impressions on the platform, a rising star in the media. Some recent headlines, the Hartford Courier, Connecticut's senator leading the national resistance against Trump. NBC. how one senator is placing himself at the center of the Trump resistance.

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The Hill, Murphy looks to be guiding force for Democrats in new Trump era. But some now questioning whether his surge in visibility is purely organic, especially given reports that his alleged new girlfriend happens to run a progressive media company funded by George Soros and Reid Hoffman. Semaphore reporting Tara McGowan, CEO of Courier Newsroom, reports,

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posted a selfie of herself and Senator Murphy last week on her private Instagram, captioned, quote, not postponing joy. Courier Newsroom is often criticized by the right as a Democrat outlet posing as a news network, the Washington Free Beacon referring to it as the George Soros-funded Democratic Propaganda Network. The New York Post reporting Ms.

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McGowan has used her personal platform and position for years at the digital outlet to promote Murphy. That activity ramping up in recent months during the time in which we know Senator Murphy separated from his wife of 17 years. That happened last November, though reports indicated they are not divorced and remain legally married. And that'll do it for your AM Update. I'm Megyn Kelly.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Megan Kelly. Welcome to the Megan Kelly show. I'm not ready. I need like another 20 minutes because there's a ton of news happening and I'm getting my arms around it. But there's more I want to read. There's always more I want to read before I talk to you guys.

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Okay, so there's so much misinformation being shoved down people's throats about this. It's quite galling. I want to stick on this question of constitutional crisis for a second, and then we've got to get to the Biden standard on what one may do when it comes to the U.S. Supreme Court, which I do believe is another favorite of yours, Charles C.W. Cook.

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Um, so Rich, let me, let me give you another example of how this is being spun in the media. Last night, there was a debate between the great Scott Jennings and the terrible Abby Phillips. It's just, I mean, talk about being, I hate that show.

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It's horrible. Whatever they're paying him, it's far too little. But here's an example of the media dialogue on this.

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And the judge did not say you're in contempt. You you're in huge trouble for doing that. The judge said, you got to do it. You got to you got to resume in all of it until we have our hearing. So the judge doesn't think it's a constitution. There's literally just one case in which the judge said, you didn't quite do what I told you to do. Please do it.

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So that gets to the question of whether the judge can force Trump to spend all the monies until he issues his ruling. And now we're getting a little closer to this federal district judge overstepping his bounds. I mean, for a week, sure, he can say that. Like, I want to see it briefed, some of your briefs. But this judge is not going to get away with slow rolling his opinion on this thing

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for the next year while this case plays out potentially with discovery and so on. And effectively just undermine the president's power. No federal district judge is going to get away with that.

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So wait, I love what you just said. I've been trying to raise this point, but not as articulately on this show. They're so focused on what's like the good programs, like the laudable, you know, the noble programs that are being stopped, like AIDS medication. If you listen to the Daily this morning, HIV medication to kids in Africa, you know, they're relying on it. Now we're stopping it. Great.

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You can spend all day long highlighting that. What they don't highlight, and we'll get into the list, but is the absolute absolute embarrassment of lists when it comes to what they use our money for that Trump is trying to stop while he figures out what the hell is going on.

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And the fact that it was their reckless spending, Rich, on causes that no one over here supports that led to this crisis, that led to the next executive having to come in to say, Hold on. I'm pressing pause on all of this because you people, the Democrats who controlled this group before me, have corrupted the program beyond recognition.

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And the Trump administration, I think, is going to do it. They haven't said we're not going to do it. Um, if the judge says do it and the Trump team says we refuse, then we're closer to actually having a crisis between the branches. Um, this judge is going to get overruled that the feds are allowed.

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No one's arguing really over HIV medication for children in Africa. If that's all USAID was doing, Trump would not have shut it down. But that's not what we have. I mean, we the list of the you know, the The opera in Ireland on trans issues and, you know, I'll read you the list, but can you spend one more minute on that?

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Like they created this misuse of funds that's now being rectified by the guy who is in charge of the funds.

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Here are some of the examples that we pulled, and I hadn't heard of a lot of these. I mean, some have given snippets, but this is a pretty good list. 1.5 million to advance DEI in Serbia's workplaces and business communities. 1.5 million for DEI in Serbia. Serbia's got a lot bigger problems than its DEI. 70,000 for production of a DEI musical in Ireland.

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$2.5 million for electric vehicles in Vietnam. $47,000 for a transgender opera in Colombia. I'm sorry, but hard pass. A transgender opera in Colombia, almost 50 grand, 32,000 for a transgender comic book in Peru. What? What? Two million for sex changes and LGBT activism in Guatemala. Sex changes in Guatemala. Six million to fund tourism in Egypt.

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Hundreds of thousands of dollars for a nonprofit linked to designated terrorist organizations. Millions to EcoHealth Alliance. That's Peter Daszak's group that was funding gain-of-function research, including in the Wuhan lab with the bat lady that was directly connected to the research that led to the lab leak.

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The executive branch is allowed to control a lot of how the money gets spent, whether it gets spent. They can't shut down entire agencies that are authorized by Congress, but they do have a lot of control over money and whether to spend it. And I realize that these various plaintiffs don't like that. The Democrats don't like that. But it's going to play out in the courts.

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Hundreds of thousands of meals that went to al Qaeda affiliated fighters in Syria, funding to print personalized contraceptives in developing countries like Megan, you know, diaphragm. Cool. Like, who wants that? Okay. Hundreds of millions to fund canals, farming equipment, and fertilizer to support poppy cultivation and heroin production in Afghanistan, Afghanistan.

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Two million for Moroccan pottery classes. Trade assistance to Ukraine that paid for models to take trips to New York City and London Fashion Week. Two million promoting tourism to Lebanon, a nation our State Department warns against traveling to due to crime, terrorism, kidnapping, and unexploded landmines. But at the same time, we're giving them two million to promote tourism there.

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$20 million to create a Sesame Street in Iraq, and more than $9 million to feed civilians in Syria, which ended up in the hands of violent terrorists, including an affiliate of Al-Qaeda, which wants to kill us. That's... Just today's list. And so what the Democrats position is, you can't tell the president of the United States that he can pause that.

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He must continue funding it and he has to continue funding it right now. And if this federal judge says, yeah, continue funding it, that it will be a constitutional crisis if Donald Trump does anything other than fund it, Charles.

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And I think in, as I said last night, nine out of 10 of these cases is going to go Trump's way. So we are not at a constitutional crisis yet. He has not flipped the bird to any judge telling him he must do something yet. Who has done that? Joe Biden. That actually was Joe Biden. And I don't remember these same people freaking out. But take a look at some of the coverage over.

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Let me follow up with you, Charles, on the Biden precedent, which is just so galling. I just can't. I you and I, all of us have been talking about Biden's flouting of the Supreme Court's rulings for four years now. I had a debate with Bill Maher on a week before the election over this when he tried to tell me Trump was going to ignore the Constitution and it was lawless.

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And I was like, what about your guy? He he didn't know anything about it. He you know.

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kind of rolled his eyes at it. Um, I just went back just for kicks. We played to the soundbite of, you know, Biden joking about how he, the Supreme court didn't stop me, you know, bragging, I should say, not joking, boasting about how the Supreme court didn't stop me. Um, but it wasn't just with respect to student loans.

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It also was with respect to, um, I always call it the rent abatement program, but it was the eviction moratorium program. where basically what happened was the feds tried to tell local landlords they couldn't evict people who didn't pay their rents during COVID. And there was a question about whether the feds could do that. And the Supreme Court said they can't. They cannot do that.

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That's not okay. And Biden didn't listen to them and then bragged about how he didn't listen to them. And was in another instance, they're really proud about how he really didn't give a damn what the Supreme Court said. Not to mention the 28th Amendment by tweet, which he tried to do the days before he got out of office that these same Democrats were not.

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I don't have a montage of them there, Charles, saying constitutional crisis because it didn't happen.

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Honestly, all Trump has done is issue executive orders and then gotten sued so far.

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Now, where were all these people when Joe Biden was trampling on the Constitution? I mean, repeatedly, but I'll give you one. After the Supreme Court blocked his, quote, student loan forgiveness program, former President Biden, at the time still in office, spoke openly about how proudly he was bypassing the high court's ruling. Watch.

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Thank you. Yeah. What the left has decided to fight over is foreign aid and the firing of bureaucrats, which had the Trump team, when I saw them in their Super Bowl box, absolutely jubilant.

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The show needs to start at two o'clock instead of 12 o'clock. Oh, well, here we go. Let's do this thing. It is day 22 of the Trump administration and the breakneck pace shows no signs of slowing down. It's so fun. But the Democrats think they've found the speed bump they've been looking for. Of course, they're filing lawsuit after lawsuit, I think 40 lawsuits so far.

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Mm-hmm. And just, you're right, decisiveness. It's like today, we're getting rid of the paper straws. Good. Good. I think we all favor that.

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It's so true. Yeah, we're going to save his restoration of the water flow to our showers and our dishwashers and our toilets and the return of the incandescent light bulb for the next segment. Rich has got to go. Charlie stays with me. And at the end of the show, Carol Swain will be here. Very much looking forward to speaking with her. Don't go away. Now is the time to prioritize gut health.

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Before we leave the subject of spending and how Trump is using Elon to crack down on some of the fraud and waste, et cetera, a couple of things. Listen to this from Trump. He made this point. I don't think he's wrong. He saw his high approval ratings and weighed in.

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And he's not wrong, right? From immigration, where Rich accurately pointed out his approval rating is at 59% across all groups. factoring in all Americans there. 64% approved sending troops down to the US-Mexico border. To the trans issue, which he's right, the latest poll showed 79% for barring boys from girls' sports.

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So it probably is more like 90% because some people don't tell pollsters exactly how they feel. He's doing things that make sense. And that leads me to my first policy point of this hour. And that is the $59 million that made its way to house illegal immigrants in Manhattan from FEMA. So FEMA sent almost $60 million of taxpayer money last week to

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That was fine. He added an amendment to the Constitution with a tweet. That was fine. Okay. And those were not the only examples of his lawlessness. He was fond of ignoring the Supreme Court. Remember his rent abatement program? Um, he, that was another time and around the high court. And we're not talking about a lower federal district court judge. Let's be clear in the federal system.

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to New York to house illegals here at nice hotels, like the Roosevelt Hotel, which is on the Upper West Side of Manhattan, where back when I was free during the days, we would go do yoga. It was actually, it was a nice life, I have to be honest. I'd do the yoga in the morning and then we'd go meet for coffee, all these Upper West Side moms. Absolutely lovely.

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Today, you wouldn't be caught dead near there. You certainly wouldn't be popping in for coffee. It's all illegals. hanging out in the lobby, staying there on taxpayer dimes. So notwithstanding the Trump order not to do that, there were some top administrators at FEMA who did that, and they've just been fired. This is actually from a National Review article that was posted yesterday.

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today, I think, talking about how DHS, which oversees FEMA, is now, you know, demanded an investigation into this, saying that the individuals who did this circumvented leadership, unilaterally made this payment, and that they will be fired, that that money, quote, is meant for American disaster relief. This is actually quoting Elon Musk.

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and instead is being spent on high-end hotels for illegals. A clawback demand will be made today to recoup those funds. President Trump signed an EO during his first week to create a council to review FEMA operations and root out political bias. The Daily Mail reporting this morning that the woman who did it and I think the three aides working for her who made it happen have now all been fired.

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But that's direct insubordination. And it's a lot of money, and it makes complete sense for Trump to say, we're not using FEMA relief aids while people in North Carolina are suffering to house illegals in Manhattan.

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You go, you file your lawsuit. You're at the, you're at the district court level. That's the trial court. You lose there. You go up to a federal court of appeals. Now you're getting more serious and you lose there. You go up to the U S Supreme court. If they'll take your case so far, all Trump has had against him is some federal district court orders.

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And let's not forget, it's because the last guy, quote, in charge issued this order to pay it. But there's a new sheriff in town. But this is Joe Biden's fault. He's really to blame here. All of this cleanup Trump is having to do is Joe Biden and Kamala Harris's fault.

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I shudder to think about those two having won again, either one, and continuing doubling and tripling down on these horrific policies. Border crossings are down 95%. since Trump took office. Military recruitment is up tens of thousands. The country is in the midst of a rebirth.

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As Rich points out, more conservative wins in the cultural wars than we've seen in 50 years, just in the past three weeks. So it really does feel like a renaissance and it's wonderful. There's some missteps, there's some things that'll need to be cleaned up, but that goes with the territory. The FEMA firings, I did find my note, It's their CFO, Mary Comins. She's been CFO since 2017.

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She has a master's in public education from NYU, a bachelor of arts in political science from Fordham. And according to open payrolls, her salary in 2018, it's probably gone up since then, was $170,000. So for $170,000, you should do what your boss wants you to do. And your boss made really clear that he did not want this money being spent, and certainly not to illegals,

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Not a court of appeals, certainly not the Supreme Court. That's the one Joe Biden was ignoring, the Supreme Court of the United States. There was not a Democrat meltdown. Now, the Dems have had some success recently at the federal district court. Judges have temporarily blocked Trump's spending freezes. That's what I just referred to and then ordered him to resume the spending.

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A New York City Hall spokesperson confirmed to Fox News that they had received these funds through the past week and that of the $59 million, $19 million went to direct hotel costs. The balance funded other services such as food and security for the illegals. I think Mayor Adams will probably work with Trump to get this done.

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clawed back and returned since it appears that the Trump justice department has pulled off the Southern district of New York, us attorney from the Eric Adams case. I don't know exactly how it went down to be fair, but suddenly Eric Adams is no longer under federal investigation. Charles, my own take on it is, I don't know what they found on the case.

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I don't know whether he did what they said he did with like, I don't know. I think it was like bribes from Egypt. Um, But as long as that guy stops New York from being a sanctuary city and starts cooperating with the feds, it's a much, much bigger and important goal than whatever he did, which I'm sure he will stop doing now that he's had this scare.

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It was so brazen. We did a whole episode, practically. On Tom Goldstein of SCOTUS blog, which we all went to. Oh, yeah. It's another one.

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Who he was. He's definitely a leftist. But then suddenly in November, while he knew, but we didn't, that he was under investigation for allegedly not paying millions in taxes. He was like this prolific gambler. winning $29 million in one poker game while he's arguing before the Supreme Court.

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He's being investigated by the feds and taking out mortgages without revealing his massive debts from these poker matches. Those are the allegations. He denies them. But while he's always a leftist and then suddenly, well, he knows he's under investigation, but we don't. This past November after Trump won.

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and became the next, you know, the president-elect, he does a whole piece on how we really should abandon all the lawfare. I mean, all the charges against Trump should go away. It's what's fair. I was like, Tom, we're on to you.

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His executive order saying birthright citizenship is no longer going to be allowed for the children of illegals. Let me just tell you, Trump 100% knew that that would be blocked. There's zero doubt he understood that was going to be blocked. He is trying to tee up an appeal that will go up to SCOTUS. He's not dumb. The lawyers advising him are not dumb. They know that that's going to go up.

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Yes. By the way, my team just sent me an update on Tom Goldstein. Steve, do me a favor and find the episode number that we talked about this case in so I can refer back to the audience. It's a great case. Most people never heard of Tom Goldstein, but he's one of the most respected members of the Supreme Court bar, which is his own special bar to get into.

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You have to get into it before you can have an argument before the Supreme Court. And one of the most... successful lawyers in front of the Supreme Court and ran this very popular blog called SCOTUS blog.

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And then this shocking story comes out about all the alleged crimes he was committing while showing up at the Supreme Court to argue some of the biggest cases that we've covered over the past five, six years. I mean, talk about being able to handle massive amounts of stress. I mean,

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litigation is stressful charles at any level but like when you're arguing in front of the supreme court and the feds are breathing down your neck and you think you're going to be charged with federal crimes that guy's got a steel of spine i don't admire him i'm just saying that the dynamic it's it's made for a movie anyway um reuters reporting today that he has just been

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arrested and detained after a judge in Maryland said he violated the terms of his pretrial release. He'd been out on bail because he was a flight risk, saying he may not remain free any longer. The prosecutor said he transferred millions of dollars in cryptocurrency assets to Using accounts he concealed from the court? I can't. We have no idea who we are trusting out there in the public eye.

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I'm here to tell you, Ain't no felonies associated with yours truly. And I feel like I can say the same on Charles's behalf. We've all committed crimes. Charles point this out all the time. You commit many every day or week or month, like given the number of laws there are, but I'm feeling good against the felonies. Um, yeah, he argued more than 40 Supreme court cases before retiring in 2023 and

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And then he was indicted last month on 22 counts of tax evasion and other tax crimes. The indictment said he won and lost millions of dollars in individual poker matches and made improper payments through his law firm to cover the debts he pleaded not guilty and did have bail.

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But now they allege that he has received more than $8 million in cryptocurrency and sent more than $6 million in cryptocurrency over the last... sent more of it, like to some accounts that were not disclosed over the last five days, he was obligated to disclose all of this to the court. He did not. Uh, they argued that this strongly suggests he is preparing to offshore his assets and flee.

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They also alleged that he tried to stop a potential witness who knew about his personal and law firm finances from cooperating with the investigation by offering things of value, including crypto and The episode is number 985. It's in the middle of it. And we spent about a half an hour on it. Well worth your time. It's crazy. Trust no one, Charles. Trust no one.

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His buyout offer for federal employees has been paused. That's the judge who said, I need this briefed. I got to figure out what's what. Trump has every chance of still winning that case. And I actually think he will win that case either before the district judge or when it goes up in appeal. And then there's Doge's access to the Treasury's payment system.

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Part of the story to me is just like, I really think he must be, if this is true, that takes a sociopath to do this. Somebody who's like somehow divorced from emotions.

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Yeah, I'm glad they were watching, although Tom Goldstein potentially fleeing would have been a great story to cover. We'll see what happens in this case. I'm definitely covering that trial if there is one. OK, Trump and common sense. How about the return of water flow? Plastic straws and the incandescent light bulb, which we all love. The lighting is so much nicer. They've improved the LED.

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I will admit it's gotten a little better, but nothing compares to the incandescent. Trump declared all of this via executive order and tweet and actually doubled down on the plastic straws as only Trump can. Listen to SOT 17.

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Back to plastic, because he says in his EO, an irrational campaign against plastic straws has resulted in major cities, states, and businesses banning their use, etc. And it is there for the policy of the U.S. to end the use of paper straws. Want this to happen nationwide.

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And then he moves on to say he's instructing Secretary Lee Zeldin to immediately go back to my environmental orders, EPA Secretary, which were terminated by Crooked Joe.

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on water standards and flow pertaining to sinks, showers, toilets, washing machines, dishwashers, et cetera, and to likewise go back to the common sense standards on light bulbs that were put in place by the Trump administration but terminated by Crooked Joe. I look forward to signing these orders. Thank you. Your thoughts.

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Treasury Secretary Scott Besant is saying the two people he allowed to access that were in read-only mode, they couldn't change anything, and they work for Treasury. So not all of these lawsuits are going to be successful. And even the ones that have had preliminary, like, we do want to take a closer look, are not success on the merits cases.

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Well, well said. No, it's another version of Republicans pounce, right? They do something- absolutely crazy on the left. Republicans say, well, you're crazy. And it's the headlines, Republicans pounce. Well, Trump pounced and is restoring, yes, common sense and order and the beautiful plastic straws that we all want. He's right about the paper straws. They're a disaster. Charlie, great to see you.

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All right, coming up next, Carol Swain is here. Looking forward to talking to her. Do you know that she was one of the victims of accused plagiarizer Claudine Gay, the Harvard professor who got bounced out? And she's got a new book out. She's going to talk about what that was like and more. Next. Well, we're right around Valentine's Day, right?

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Remember Claudine Gay? It's been a year since the former Harvard president resigned from her position after refusing to say that anti-Semitic language on campus violated the college's code of conduct. Here's a reminder of her disastrous testimony before Congress.

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Do not get on Elise Stefanik's bad side. She's amazing. I interviewed her at the Republican National Convention, and I just assumed she had legal training. Like, where'd you go to law school? She's like, I didn't go to law school. She's going to be our new U.N. ambassador, and she's perfectly suited for that job. In addition to Claudine Gay's problems responding to those questions on Capitol Hill,

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She was accused of serial plagiarism, which really kind of was the death knell, put the nail in the coffin. And one of the authors that she is accused of plagiarizing is with me today. You and I love her. Her name is Dr. Carol Swain. You know Carol. She has a new book detailing this plagiarism and her own ensuing battle with Harvard. You see, she says she was one of Claudine's victims.

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It is called The Gay Affair. I like it. The Gay Affair. Harvard, plagiarism, and the death of academic integrity.

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Well, and they won. They won. I know. That's right. Yeah. You have that in common with my husband. He's from, well, he's from Philly, so that's why he loves them. But yeah, they were great. It was super fun. And I really, I don't think I'll ever do it again, but I certainly enjoyed the one time. So you've spent a lifetime in academics when you came on before we detailed your rise. I

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All right. Well, that's Trump ripping on the judges. No one's surprised to hear that either. Joining me now on this and so much more, it's an NR Day, Charles C.W. Cook, senior editor and host of the Charles C.W. Cook podcast, and Rich Lowry, editor-in-chief of National Review. You can find all of their work ad-free with an NR Plus membership, which I highly recommend.

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And you have to, if you're going to go that route, write a lot. You have to get published, which you did. And so how did you find out that somebody else who's gotten published, though not as prolifically as you have, did it in part by allegedly copying and stealing your ideas and words? And that would be Claudine Gay, the one-time president of Harvard.

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One of my favorite things to do in the morning is to go on my phone, I'm like doing my hair, I'm doing my makeup. And I pull up an article and they've got the wonderful read aloud feature, which very few websites have. I don't know why more people don't do it. It's a great feature. And the nice lady will read me my NR, smart, fair and balanced news while I get other things done.

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And that has allowed them because they have some judges who are finding their way. Or what I'm seeing more often is just they're winning temporary restraining orders to say, you can't enforce that law until we have a full hearing on it. Like I need it to be briefed and I need a full evidentiary hearing for me to understand what's going on. And they're like, Oh, it's a huge win.

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Absolutely. And yet still want us to be... I mean, there's no question Abby Phillip makes millions of dollars. And she still wants us to feel sorry for her because somehow there's an invisible ceiling she keeps bumping up against. You know, she has a primetime show. Like, I don't know what she's bitching about. And this other woman, I have no idea what her work ethic is. Good point.

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I don't know how smart she is just because she has these degrees. And I don't know whether she's outshining her competitors either. You know, it's like maybe you're great, but you're not as great as your colleagues. It just automatically has to be gender and race.

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That's exactly right. Thank you. I appreciate that. And I feel very much the same, Carol. And I'm thrilled that you're going public with this story about Claudine Gay, because honestly, she should have called you long ago to apologize at the bare minimum she could do. Support Carol. The book is called The Gay Affair. Love it. Good turn of phrase. It's very memorable.

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The Gay Affair by Carol Swain, who we want to support, who will not get a single appearance on CNN to promote this book or MSNBC, hopefully Fox, but she needs our support and she deserves it. The book is The Gay Affair. It's wonderful to have you back. Thank you so much. All right, Steve, what was the episode number our first time with Carol? Oh, 281, number 281. And it's a great one.

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You will fall in love with Carol if you haven't already. And we are back tomorrow with Adam Carolla and Anna Kasparian. Before we go, I just want to point this out very quickly. Last Friday, we dropped a special episode on Brian Kohlberger and all of these big developments that happened in that case when we weren't looking about two weeks earlier. It's huge. It's blowing up online.

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The episode's only, it's less than an hour, I think. It's well worth your time. Go back and take a look at it, youtube.com slash Megyn Kelly. We will see you tomorrow. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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Okay, so I'm not saying it's impossible to have a constitutional crisis, but we are not there yet. Once Trump says, I refuse, I refuse to obey the federal court order, we're closer. And certainly if we get to the point of the US Supreme Court ordering him to do something or to stop doing something and he refuses, we're there, we're there. But right now we're nowhere near there.

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And the thing that is really galling, and let me take it one at a time before I get to the really galling. I'm gonna start with you on that piece, Rich. And I've been listening to some of your discussions with Andy on Trump's powers when it comes to money and the executive branch. But do you think we are now, as the media is telling us, at a constitutional crisis point?

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We're shutting down Trump's ability to change the government. And then they, when Trump says, I don't think you'd actually do have the ability to stop me from doing this constitutional crisis. It's a constitutional crisis. He's not listening to the judiciary. Meanwhile, there's literally only one example of him being ordered to

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No, it's not. One of the things that they're upset about is J.D. Vance issued a post on Sunday on X. Literally, it was a Twitter post, okay? It was an X post, and it reads as follows. If a judge tried to tell a general how to conduct a military operation, that would be illegal. which is correct.

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If a judge tried to command the attorney general in how to use her discretion as a prosecutor, that's also illegal. Judges are not allowed to control the executive's legitimate power. He's 100% right about all of that. But that's not the same thing as saying, and therefore we are going to defy the orders that have been issued against us. That's saying this initial order was wrong.

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We will appeal it and it will be overruled. We are going to win. on our legal fight that the Democrats started. But that's not how it's being spun, Charlie. Let me play you a little montage. I played you some top Dems with the new line, which is very clearly constitutional crisis to try to scare people. And naturally, the Democrat media is walking along in line. Watch.

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to resume payments to federal agencies, where then the plaintiff said he didn't resume doing that fast enough. And the Trump team filed a brief saying, actually, we are making all of these payments in the following few fields. They were never affected to begin with, but we're still doing our assessments under the other fields that he wanted to see if the funding's proper on.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. I'm Megan Kelly. Welcome to The Megan Kelly Show. We are getting more information now on the alleged suspect in the, well, he's the suspect and the alleged murderer of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson. Yesterday, Luigi Mangione was identified and arrested in a Pennsylvania McDonald's in the morning.

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They just, they're sick. And I just want to say one thing. It is today, December 10th, right? It's December 10th, 2024. It was December 15th, 1985, that my own father died. He died of a heart attack, an unexpected heart attack in our home at age 45, 10 days before Christmas. And I was a 15-year-old girl.

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But it is interesting. I mean, like, and then you move on, of course, to politicians where it's like, and certainly nobody's advocating this. I'm just saying that if you want to talk about a politician who's really had a massive effect on healthcare, the first person to come to mind would be Barack Obama. If you like your plan, you can keep your plan.

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If you like your doctor, you can keep your law, your doctor, which was a lie. And his Obamacare plan led to the loss of individual relationships between a patient and his doctor over and over and over again, a patient and her plan over and over and over. So if we're green lighting, we're now green lighting violence against public figures who affect our health care. How do they reconcile that?

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I mean, how is it not a call for multiple assassinations? It's just such insanity. That's why I refuse to even have the discussion. I refuse to have the discussion about the state of modern insurance care in America right now. Maybe at some point we'll discuss it, but certainly not in response to this lunatic who is being covered like this.

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Heather, just to give you one other example, would you look at CNN talking about this murderer, this suspected murderer? Watch this.

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Okay, so what happened in that clip for the listening audience is that Casey Hunt, the anchor, chimes in, we've got to drop the banner to show them why. Like, show him his abs. There's something incredibly crass, sophomoric, simple about the discussions these people are having around this man who gunned down a fellow American.

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We haven't seen an open assassination attempt like this in a long time, Heather, and the seriousness is just missing.

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And it was, of course, as any sane person already can see, deeply traumatic for me and my entire family. And it's something you never get over. It changes your life in a profound way. And so this guy, Brian Thompson, had two boys. I think one was 18, one was 16, for sure, one was 16. And their father was killed three weeks before Christmas.

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No, we have to forge on without them. These are not people we can reason with. We just have to defeat them and forge on without them.

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I do want to ask you, you're not a psychologist or a psychiatrist, but it is bizarre, Heather, that this guy was valedictorian of this Tony Boyce School in Maryland, went on to the University of Pennsylvania where he got a BA and an MA in computer science, engineering, and math, I think was his minor, right?

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goes on to work for some tech companies, though I will say the employment history started to get a little sketchy. They say he's worked, he worked for 10 different companies in the past 10 years. Now that would have been six when he was 16 to 26, but it's not like he found a great job and just kept it upon graduating from UPenn. Um,

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I'll just show you a little bit from his high school graduation speech as valedictorian. He wasn't particularly articulate or impressive, I will admit. But he seemed normal. He seemed normal. And this is just, you know, eight years ago. Listen to this.

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all the advantages, education, wealth, apparently a nice family that was looking for him when he went missing at age 26, couldn't find him, was doing its best to try to retrieve him, lots of friends. you know, according to them, good looks. It's just, it's very strange what would make him go from that to, I'll listen, I'll let you hear it from John Miller, who's an intel analyst now on CNN.

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He's the chief law enforcement and intel analyst talking about what was in his manifesto that the police found on his person when they arrested him, SOC 10.

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And these assholes are out there talking about how they want to sleep with the killer, how hot he is, what a hero he is for taking out the CEO of a company in an unpopular industry. and at some point we'll discuss why they're unpopular. As I said yesterday, now's not that time.

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He's the right age for a psychotic break. We don't know. He had all sorts of icons on his social media that suggested he might've been into psychedelics. That's not confirmed. They don't make you normally psychotic, but the god of psychedelics was on this show telling us this Hopkins researcher saying, if you have any history of schizophrenia in your family, you should not be doing these.

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You should not be doing these. They can be helpful to people who don't have that history and are depressed and need to look at the world in a different way. We've had those people on the show too, but they would rule out anybody who had that sort of a history in their family because they can cause a psychotic break from which you cannot return. That's what's so nuts about it.

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That's pure speculation on my part. His back issues have been documented now. His friends are coming out talking to CNN about how he had some massive back problem that caused him a lot of pain, but no reports so far of any beef with an insurance company. We will learn more. And this guy's I mean, it sounds like the cops have got him dead to rights.

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The manifesto on him, the gun on him, the silencer on him, both of which they say appear to have been the product of a 3D printer, which is nuts, along with hollow point bullets, which he would have to have had to have purchased false IDs. He confessed to holding a false ID into presenting it to the police, saying he was a New Jersey resident under a different name.

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And now he's in custody and not talking and ultimately today charged with So far, it was second-degree murder in New York, and I expect that will be increased to first degree once they proceed down the line with this case. There he is in his mugshot looking super tough. It's not super tough to kill an unarmed man in the back, Luigi, at all.

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Okay, let's talk about Daniel Penny, who is a genuine hero, who I— Unlike this guy, like they want to say, oh, they're the same. They're just being treated differently. That's what the left is saying, because both were trying to act in defense of others. That's what the Taylor Lorenz of the world see when they look at Penny and this guy. But it isn't so.

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But I mean, good luck getting through any piece of the healthcare system without insurance, nevermind government insurance, which is the realistic alternative to the private health insurance that we get. I mean, you may think they're evil. They're a necessary evil and they actually make more procedures possible than they do deny the ones that cause people to go nuts over them.

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You could say that to justify the murder of just about anybody who had caused any harm in their business life or professional life. It doesn't make your murder of them justified. Daniel Penny was actually trying to defend weaker people around him on the subway. A fact which is not being acknowledged by the BLM, NAACP, Al Sharpton types today, which want to paint him like he's another Luigi.

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I just, this is so wrong. What are we doing? A 16-year-old's life has been changed forever and that 18-year-old as well. They don't have a dad anymore. Young boys who don't have their dad. Screw you for talking about his abs, you disgusting cretins. I'm just, ugh. gross over these gross people. We'll get to Taylor Lorenz on with peers.

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Let's put a pin in that because that's next, but let's stay where you are. I'll give you one example. So this was community noted on X yesterday. A commentator named Tiffany Caban writes, Jordan Neely deserved better than the violence of being denied access to stable housing and healthcare. And then... to be dehumanized for it.

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Jordan Neely deserved better than the systems that allow for and justify extrajudicial white supremacist violence against black people. The community note reads as follows. As part of a plea agreement with prosecutors after he punched a 67-year-old woman in the face in the street in 2021, Jordan Neely was given free access to stable housing and healthcare at a treatment facility in the Bronx.

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He abandoned the facility after 13 days. So she's a New York City council member, that Tiffany Caban. They're just not getting it. They refuse to get it intentionally, willfully blind to the problems.

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We've learned more about this guy's personal history, including that this alleged assassin was an Ivy league graduate. As we did tell you yesterday, when this was breaking, he went to university of Pennsylvania from a very prominent Maryland family who owned several country clubs, as well as at least at his grandfather's generation. He's the one who seems to have made the money. Um,

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This gets right to the befuddlement of many on the left and in the media as to the reaction that you and I and other sane people are having to this verdict. They don't understand why we're applauding Daniel Penny, because we've seen all the to this current system, which none of us voted for or okayed in any way.

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We miss the old days of there being law and order and of the law-abiding citizens being the ones who are protected and at the front of mind for police. And we're cheering a strong, brave man like Daniel Penny who fills the gap to keep us safe. But I'll just give you, just listen to this CNN anchor, Audie Cornish, who seems genuinely confused about this reaction that some of us are having.

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a radio station, country clubs, a real estate company. And it is being reported that a turning point for the suspect may have been a back surgery earlier this year. He had some sort of a surgery and then he reportedly went dark, stopped talking to his friends, stopped talking to his family, his family. was sounding the alarm as recently as November on where is Luigi?

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He's also saying he wasn't a threat. He said he went to the funeral of Jordan Neely and said he posed no threat. He's just such a hustler, non-fact based, who tries to gin up anger and riots and protests. He tried again here without any care for the consequences that follow.

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And that will bring us officially to the race discussion here where the Sharptons and the NAACP and this lunatic from BLM, Shavonna Newsom, who's the co-founder of the Greater New York chapter, after the verdict had this to say. Listen.

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We can't find him and he's not in touch with anybody. People, friends sending him messages online saying, are you coming to my wedding? As you said, you were or not. Where are you? He went off to Hawaii. He tried a surf lesson. This is post his back surgery, I believe. And it was so debilitating. He was in bed for a week. Okay.

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So meantime, you've got the Cretans, as I pointed out, the worst is Taylor Lorenz, who, I mean, the body wasn't even warm of Brian Thompson. And she was expressing how happy she was that he was dead. Um, we're also going to get to more on the insane leftist reaction to Daniel Penny's acquittal yesterday in New York.

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We have a minute to break, but I'll say this on the subject of good cops. They the the two cops who arrested Luigi Mangione in that McDonald's in Altoona, Pennsylvania, two hours outside of Pittsburgh. One, the one who confronted him was a rookie. He'd been on the job as a police officer for this group, for this jurisdiction, six months.

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and went over there, managed to get him to take his mask down, managed to ask him the question about whether he'd recently been in New York, and managed to effect an arrest that easily could have gone wrong, could have wound up in gun violence. The guy was carrying a weapon with his silencer and his hollow point bullets.

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and managed to take this killer, suspected killer into custody with absolutely no problem. I mean, an example in how it's done. So, you know, while we're always on the subject of how terrible our cops are, maybe a word for him, Al Sharpton. We'd love to. He's not interested because Luigi's not black. All right. Stand by. We have more with Heather McDonald after this quick break. Don't go away.

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I'm dying to talk to you about Trump's cabinet picks, including Pete Hegseth. I heard your discussion with Ann Coulter and I thought it was typically fascinating. And I'll just get the audience caught up on where Pete's nomination stands right now, where he's still facing some challenges. problems potentially with Murkowski, Collins, maybe McConnell and maybe Joni Ernst.

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And the first three are not expected. Joni Ernst is causing a lot of anger on the right because she's a Republican senator from Iowa, which is a red state. And I think they expected better from her.

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And there for the past few days now, there has been trending on X, the hashtag Judas Joni, where Republicans are expressing their outrage that she seems to be getting ready to, in their view, betray them by holding up this nomination. She had a second meeting with Pete on Monday and put out a statement that may or may not be indicative of some softening. I'm not sure if I believe it is.

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Here's what she wrote. I appreciate Pete Hegseth's responsiveness and respect for the process. And that's anodyne. Following our encouraging conversations, okay, Pete committed to completing a full audit of the Pentagon and selecting a senior official who will uphold the rules, the roles and value of our servicemen and women based on quality and standards, quote,

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And there's no one to better ask to have no one better to break it all down in response to our questions than my first guest, Heather McDonald. She's a fellow at the Manhattan Institute and contributing editor for city journal. She's also author of the book when race trumps merit. I mean, she's truly, she might be the number one, but she is one of the top intellectuals in the world.

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As I support Pete through this process, I look forward to a fair hearing based on truth, not anonymous sources. She later called it a very productive process. Reading a meeting. Sorry. And then she said, we're just moving through the process, but he does respect that I'm taking the time. Um, I don't know what that means, Heather.

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besides getting him a hearing and listening to what is said in the hearing but i have to be honest i don't really sense a bunch of softening in that statement and i too think joni ernst may still be a no and she could take this nomination what do you make of pete hegseth well my concern with pete hegseth is that he doesn't have the bureaucratic uh

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Police reported, because some people thought it was the McRib, it's come back and they didn't think he could resist going in there. A lot of people get sucked back into McDonald's thanks to this thing. It was the morning. It might have been a McMuffin.

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He certainly got the desire, which I think is the main goal of Trump selecting him, that they're on the same page with respect to mission. But I listened to you and I listened to Ann and Ann was much more in the old school Republican camp of character matters. He cheated on all three of his wives. He reportedly cheated on the first wife some five times. That's unconfirmed.

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But Gabe Sherman is reporting that the ex-wife says he told her that. Um, and so how can he sit atop a military where we prosecute people for infidelity and in effect pass judgment on these guys who still do get court-martialed for doing things like that?

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I do think Trump's a narcissist. No big surprise. Most of the people who run for and become president are. But I can defend him on that other front in that, you know, look at him now after the election. Joe Biden telling everybody that he's Hitler, he's a Nazi, he's a white supremacist, fascist. He sat down with him and said, you know, it's a tough election.

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A lot of tough things get said in these elections, but that's politics. Same thing with Jill Biden over in Notre Dame Cathedral this week. Smiled at her, was nice to her. sat down, I mean, Marco Rubio as Secretary of State, those two did strong rhetorical battle back in 16. Yours truly, he didn't like me for a year, but we're great now.

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You know, he, I think he actually is, he accepted a meeting with Joe and Mika from Morning Joe. They came down to Mar-a-Lago and he was kind to them. Like, I think Trump is capable of looking past strife and an adversarial relationship just as long as the other person would like to do that too.

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Yep. Yep. So how are you feeling now? I mean, we elected Trump. The Republicans are going to control the Senate and the House. They don't have a filibuster-proof majority. We've got a 6-3 majority on the U.S. Supreme Court. How are you feeling, Heather?

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Yeah. Tom Homan apparently was speaking at an event in Chicago yesterday and began the remarks by saying your mayor sucks and your governor sucks. Yes. Right. Right. Speak for us all, sir.

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I'm so grossed out by this reaction to the murder of this insurance company CEO. And it's pretty widespread on the left how they are lionizing the alleged murderer. And I mentioned Taylor Lorenz because she's pretty indicative of it. She worked for The New York Times. She worked for The Washington Post.

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But the reports right now are that that team MAGA has effectively gotten it, that the Pete Hegseth nomination is it's about more than Pete, because if they give on him, they wait to see what they do to Bobby Kennedy and a lot of the others getting into their personal lives, making bad personal choices, the stakes for the nomination. It's like now's the time to fight.

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And if we give on this one, we're probably going to lose RFKJ, among others. Heather McDonald, I love talking to you. Please come back anytime.

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Oh, gosh. Such a privilege for me to be able to engage in these conversations. Love her. Okay. So before we take a break, I want to bring you a couple of updates that we're getting now on the arrest of this Luigi Mangione and the latest in this case because some stuff is happening. Okay. There are now death threats against the police officers who arrested the guy. People have lost their minds.

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They're threatening the lives of the cops who arrested him because he's already seen as such a folk hero. I mean, I don't think this guy thought this through because it was very clear he would eventually wind up arrested. I mean, with this picture plastered all over the United States like that, what did he think was going to happen? Of course they were going to get him in modern day America.

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And how did he see that going? Does he think his back troubles are going to do any better in prison? With the health care there, does he think he's going to be getting an interventional radiologist or interventional pain management doctor giving him radiculopathy while he's locked up as a convicted felon? Probably one of the worst, most maximum security prisons we have.

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I'm not sure it's going to work out so well for Luigi. And by the way, I don't know if I even believe the whole insurance thing because I don't know that it was personal to him since it sounds like he comes from a very rich family. And those are the families that can handle bad insurance news. It tends to be the poor families who wind up paying the price if an insurer doesn't cover something.

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So I... I don't know. To me, it seems more likely that this guy's in the psychotic break camp, either because of schizophrenia, which is right around now. It's like 19 to mid-20s that it kicks in, even with people who seemed fine before. Or maybe there was a psychedelic-induced break. Maybe he overused some medications. Maybe it was in connection with back pain that he made that choice.

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Total speculation on my part. I'm just thinking out loud here. But there's got to be an explanation for why he went postal. I mean, he, that's what happened here. And, um, we just need to learn more about it. Now I will say that the, there was a former NYPD guy, former NYPD captain, uh, named John Monahan.

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He was on CNN last night and he was suggesting that he did not believe Luigi, if this is in fact, is that our guy Mangione was done, uh, that he actually thought he was probably on his way back to New York and possibly to commit another crime.

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She was fired by The Washington Post this fall when she posted on her Instagram, Joe Biden is a war criminal. When they chastised her for posting such a thing as a so-called reporter, she denied she had done it and claimed she'd been hacked. They fired her, not believing her excuse. And then a month or so later, she definitely posted on her social media, Joe Biden is a war criminal.

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He was making the point that the buses, you know, he took a Greyhound bus, the buses out of Penn Station, which I think is where he left, go to, he said, New York, Philadelphia, and one other town to D.C., and that he believes Luigi got on a bus to Philly,

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and then headed back to Pittsburgh and Altoona and that he believed based on the route that the guy was traveling, New York was next, that he was going to go back there. And this may not have been the end of his crime spree, which would explain why he still had the gun on him.

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I mean, yes, you could say it was for a confrontation with cops, but there's no report that he lurched for his backpack, which I believe was right there in the McDonald's. Actually, can we show the pictures that we've seen now of him in the McDonald's? I mean, it does look just like him, but his backpack was reportedly right by him in the McDonald's. Hello, are we going to put it up in the air?

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I guess we'll get to it. There, there he is. I don't know what he's sipping there, but he's sitting there with something in his right hand. It's a hash brown. He's eating a hash brown with his mask off of his face and a big sort of burnt orange beanie on his head. And anyway, reportedly his backpack was right there. His laptop was right there. So he didn't lurch for it.

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He didn't try to have a shootout with cops. So you tell me why he held onto the gun. Listen to John Monaghan last night on Anderson Cooper 360. It's not 11.

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And we're getting more now on exactly how they got there. Remember yesterday we talked about was it an elderly patron who ID'd him or was it an employee? And now what we understand, at least as of today, is that there was a guy who was there with his buddy eating McDonald's and they saw him and they were saying, looks like the guy. Hello, looks like the guy from the shooting.

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And then a female employee agreed and called the police. Well, one of those customers to whom I just referred gave an interview to Fox and described what went down that morning. Listen here.

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Police reported that when they approached Mangione, who's being hailed by the left as some sort of hero for committing murder in the streets of New York and shooting a man in the back, father of two, including a 16-year-old boy. This is their new hero. You know, what a badass he is for standing up for others. Okay, you know what?

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kind of removing the mystery about whether it had been her the first time. And now this woman is all over online on her sub stack and elsewhere trying to justify this man's murder and goes on with Piers Morgan on his YouTube show last night saying the following.

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Wow. Think of that. Just two regular guys sitting there having their McDonald's saying that looks a lot like him. And it did. I mean, you see that picture. He's got that burnt orange beanie. He's got here's the other shot of him. He's got the sort of medical mask on the covid mask on again.

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And, you know, thanks to law enforcement in New York that went back and got pictures of him at the youth hostel where he'd been staying. We did have that picture of him barefaced. Remember, he pulled on his mask for a minute to flirt with a girl. And we had the second picture of him in the back of either a taxi or an Uber, totally barefaced, where you could see his face.

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And it's a pretty distinctive face very clearly. And they got that everywhere. So these customers and the employee had two visions of the guy in their head, with the mask and without, and apparently they saw both while he sat there at McDonald's. Why didn't he, this guy who planned this elaborate crime, why wouldn't he have changed the color of his hair, gotten into a disguise? right?

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Like, hello, you still look exactly like the picture that's everywhere of you. Of course, we're going to notice you. And by the way, you're not even that far from New York. How is this a disguise? Like, I think the color of the beanie may be different. I'm not sure. But I don't get why he wasn't dressed in like a woman's wig or shaving his head and walking around with glasses and no mask.

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Like, why wouldn't he have changed his look dramatically in order not to be caught? I don't totally understand that. On the subject of his alleged back pain and who he was, there was an interesting exchange, again, on CNN with RJ Martin, who lived with Luigi Mangione. at some, quote, co-living community in Hawaii.

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Apparently this is some community he joined with a lot of gamers who were out there who were kind of living ragtag with one another. It's not exactly what you think your kid's going to do after he graduates with a master's degree from UPenn, but listen to R.J. Martin in Sod 8.

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He also confirmed that Luigi did have surgery and that Luigi sent him an x-ray of his back saying that he confirmed he had surgery. He sent me the x-ray. It looked heinous with giant screws going into the spine. He said that Luigi was not a violent person, never once talked about guns or violence. that he cannot make sense of what has happened here.

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And others who knew him too, who are speaking out now, said similar things about him. A former college classmate told Fox News, very polite, driven engineering student, usually had a smile. He was a little removed from the bar and party scene. He seemed like someone who's more likely to start a nonprofit than than to read manifestos. Uh, another former college classmate told Fox news.

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I wanted to set him up with one of my best friends because he would be a great boyfriend. Uh, um, someone named Aaron Cranston, former classmate of his at the Gilman school, the Cy high school in Baltimore said he was a smart and ambitious student. It was hard to understand him being suspected in such a crime, but he did know that, um,

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He and other peers had been forwarded a message earlier this year when Mangione's family was trying to track him down. This man Cranston said the message reported that the family members had not heard from Luigi for several months following his back surgery and were looking for him.

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A person who had been in the same fraternity with him at the University of Pennsylvania said he had heard that Mangione had been out of contact with many people from campus for the last year. And he said the last time he'd spoken to Mangione was in February of 23, when Mangione mentioned that he had suffered a spine injury.

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So we're not totally sure of the chronology, but it does appear that this guy was withdrawing from society bit by bit and that it may have related to the back. His family issued the following statement, our family shocked and devastated by Luigi's arrest. Um, we offer prayers to the family of Brian Thompson and we ask people to pray for all involved.

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We don't know whether the family was looking at those photos thinking, oh my God, that's Luigi. We do know that they had no obligation to call police and report him. That is not yet a thing in America. You do not have to call police and turn in a relative. Now, if you harbor him, that's a different story, but you don't have to say that looks just like Luigi. You should look him up.

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So we don't know whether they recognized him from the pictures that were everywhere, but man. What a story. I'll leave you with this. FBI profiler, Dr. Mary Ellen O'Toole, who did help capture the Unabomber, was speaking out on local news about Luigi and what could possibly be behind this kind of act. And here's what she said.

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Right now, he's not talking. Online, he praised Ted Kaczynski, the Unabomber, saying he's been misunderstood. Maybe he'll start talking, but usually the way this works is after you've been officially charged, which he now has, as I said, second-degree murder, it's going to have to go up to first. Then you get a lawyer and your rights kick in and you don't have to talk.

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And so far, he's not talking. So we'll see. This case is going to rely on the physical evidence that they found on him when they arrested him, in addition to a forensics comparison between the gun and the bullets and what was found in the victim and at the crime scene. What a case. Thank you. All stand by.

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I'm going to bring on a guest next who you may know, maybe not by his name, but as the guy who baked the cakes out in Colorado, who then refused to bake a cake for a gay marriage, whose case went all the way up to the U.S. Supreme Court. And then a trans customer started harassing poor Jack Phillips. And now that case has gone all the way up to the Colorado Supreme Court.

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religious Americans have been under attack by former President Barack Obama and then President Joe Biden's far left policies for years. Don't believe me? The Little Sisters of the Poor, of all people, had to go all the way to the US Supreme Court to get an exemption to Obamacare's contraception mandate. Bunch of nuns. And that brings us to the case of Jack Phillips.

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He is the incredibly talented cake artist from Colorado who declined to make a cake for a same-sex wedding due to his sincerely held Christian beliefs. His case went all the way up to the US Supreme Court and the ordeal took a major emotional toll on Jack, his family, and his employees. Here's part of my interview with him back in 2017.

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but the mainstream media won't tell you about Jack's pain. He wound up winning his case in 2018, but that was not the end of the story. On the very same day the US Supreme Court agreed to hear that case, a transgender attorney requested that Jack make him, it was a man posing as a woman, A pink cake with blue frosting to celebrate a, quote, gender transition.

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Jack once again declined, and that trans attorney took legal action against him. That case has been in the courts for years. Thankfully, in October, the Colorado Supreme Court dismissed the case, which is good for Jack, but they did it on procedural grounds. They didn't get into the substance about whether there was an obligation to bake the cake or not.

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They just said that the case had not been properly filed. Here with me to discuss whether the harassment of Jack Phillips is finally over is the man himself, along with his attorney, Kristen Wagoner, who is the president and general counsel of Alliance Defending Freedom. Welcome to you both. Great to see you both again.

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Well, congratulations, Jack, because at least this chapter of harassment against you is over. But how confident are we that the saga is over?

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Exactly. If they want to come in and have a random cake or get a coffee or whatever, they can do all that. It's that you didn't want to be compelled to celebrate gay marriage or pretend that men can become women through a cake. Here's my question for you, Kristen. I'm worried because they didn't decide it on the substance, the Colorado Supreme Court, and they should have.

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To me, this is a no-brainer. There should have at least been dictum in there saying – Okay, they screwed up procedurally, so we're going to throw it out. But by the way, since this case was started, 303 Creative was decided by the U.S. Supreme Court.

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And that case made very clear that a state's civil rights laws cannot force a business like Jack's to engage in compelled speech, even if the state lawmakers think the compelled speech is really, really good and really, really moral.

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He's a warrior and he's been put through hell for two cakes. He's been put through hell over two cakes because he's become their favorite target. They're trying to bully you, Jack. Can you just tell us, can you give us a little bit about your childhood?

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Like what made you strong enough to stand up to people trying to bully you into saying, no, you know, I'll just get past my beliefs because I don't want this aggravation.

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It's part of the destruction of your life and your business and your character. I mean, it does take a very strong man to go through what you've been through, even with a group as great as Alliance Defending Freedom standing by your side. It takes a lot of temerity. I salute you again for fighting for all of us because 303 Creative was huge, Kristen. I do think it's important that when...

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The lower courts in Colorado were ruling against Jack on this trans case. It had not yet been decided. They were ruling against him substantively, like on the merits, but they had not yet been, you know, they're bound by that Supreme Court precedent 303 creative, which says you can't force compelled speech on a business.

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Then it came down and then the Colorado Supreme court got the case, but they didn't deal with it. They just said, we're bouncing, we're throwing out, we're going to rule for Jack because the other side screwed up procedurally. So we haven't yet had the case that tries to test the trans thing that in the wake of 303 Creative.

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And the reason it's really important is because Gorsuch wrote the majority opinion in 303 Creative, but he was critical to Bostock, which is the reason it's illegal to make any hiring decisions or firing decisions that factor in somebody's trans status. So we're going to get a case, are we not, that's going to go up, like maybe Jack's situation, or I think it could happen...

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In the case of a company that demands somebody say the, quote, preferred pronouns, right? Because that's what the state human rights law requires. And the person says, I'm not doing that in my religion like mine. We don't believe that God makes mistakes on people and that there are only two sexes, male and female, and I'm going to pretend that you can change.

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And that's exactly the kind of case where you could file it and you could say, I refuse. That's compelled speech. I'm not going to say it. And you tell me at some point the Supreme Court is going to have to deal with what 303 Creative means in that context.

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You gave me a chill there. Yes, that's exactly right, Jack. So you mentioned it in passing that things have changed. I mean, there has been a cost to you. And we saw it in that NBC clip that, you know, you got emotional. It's not been easy, even though you have Kristen's help. It's been quite a journey.

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Well, I have a feeling that a lot of my audience has just decided to send their friends and family some masterpiece cake shop brownies and cookies this Christmas season as a way of supporting you and making sure you stay on your feet, Jack.

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I'm just thrilled about all of this. So, all right, last bit. We just had a case go up, Kristen, where we were arguing about This issue yet again, and whether children have a right to medications that sterilize them and deprive them of sexual function and enjoyment for the rest of their lives when their parents go in and say to a doctor they're trans. I think that's going to go our way, too.

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I think the Supreme Court's going to rule there is no such right. And the bans on those procedures and medicines in some 22 states will be upheld. But what do you think? You're a lot closer to that one, too.

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All right, quickly in the time we have left, is there any chance a federal ban on these medicines, so-called medicines for children could be upheld?

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Yes. And to see reason as they have in Scandinavia and the UK and elsewhere. Kristen, thank you. Jack, Merry Christmas. All the best to you both.

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Merry Christmas. Wow. Great. Great. All right. We'll bring you the latest on all the news tomorrow. Thanks for listening. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda and no fear.

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Yeah, and is giving voice to what we've seen all over the internet, thirsting after this guy and celebrating his looks and counting him as some sort of courageous guy, as they say, who shoots a man dead in the street, an unarmed man in the back. Yeah. In the left's world, this is courage.

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He basically peed his pants when the cops approached him in the McDonald's. He started shaking. just upon being asked the question of whether he'd recently been in New York. This guy who killed a man by shooting him in the back. That's your leftist hero. It's just so gross. Can I just say... I'm really over this nonsense. This guy's not a hero at all.

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Here is that guy, Tim Miller, who couldn't find the stones, Heather, to ask Doug Emhoff, who he had right across from him, right after the story broke that he had, according to his ex-girlfriend, slapped her with an open hand across the face so hard outside of a festival in Cannes, France, that she spat.

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Bunn, this is like a year before he got together with Kamala Harris, he couldn't find the stones to ask him the question, would you like to respond to that? Is it true that you hit this woman, you who are being lauded by the left as the new version of masculinity, non-toxic, the way the Republican version is? This guy, Tim Miller, couldn't find the stones to ask him those questions.

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I have a lot for you on Daniel Penny today, which I will do next. But you're exactly right. I mean, I think the Trump election was a declaration that the normies are with us. We've reclaimed the normies who were leftist adjacent. you know, open-minded to self-flagellation as required by BLM and the trans activists.

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We should not be lauding his good looks, which really aren't existent, all over the internet. Tim Miller, ye of the I won't ask Doug Emhoff a single question about his alleged assault of a woman in your stupid podcast, is out there talking about how he wants to... get together with this guy, how he's, not to mention the Boston Marathon bomber. These people are fucking sick. Sorry.

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Like, okay, if that's what I need to do to be a good person, I'm open, I'm listening. And now they've just been completely rejiggered to normalcy. Wait a minute. You people are the loons. We're not doing that. We're not opening the border. I'm going back with a side of reason. I think they're back with us, but it doesn't mean the loons went away.

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They're still a part of the Democrat party and they're vocal and they're not giving one inch. Taylor Lorenz is one example of that, but they're all over CNN and MSNBC in the wake of Penny, which is the other big story today, saying all the things you'd expect them to say about how we've normalized vigilantism.

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The same people, they see him as, we're celebrating a vigilante in the case of Penny, but on the CEO, Brian Thompson, you've got some of those same people saying right on, you know, the guy had some good points.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. We're going to talk parenting for a minute. How do we raise confident, able kids in our post-pandemic, always online, annoying society? My next guest may be familiar to you if you spend any time on Instagram, which is where I found him.

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Oh, gosh. Thank you for saying that. Likewise. So I always love your posts. They always make sense to me. I always get like an additional pearl of wisdom that I didn't have before. The one that made me say, could we please book him? Please get him on the show was one in which you were talking about. This is the condensed version. Today, parents do way too much for their children.

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That's my bread and butter for the most part. In fact, believe it or not, this year for Lent, I gave up negativity, which is, it sounds like a cop-out, but it was designed around what you're talking about. Now, I kind of give myself the two hours off of this show because I got to do the news in the way I do the news. I can't mess with it. But in the other 22 hours of the day,

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I'm trying to give up negativity and I'm not a negative person. I think I am an accurate person with a positive spin. And, um, but I have noticed now that I've made a point of it, how many times I'll say, you know, like, Oh, I can't stand that. Or that sucks. Or we wait, we played the game Padel over vacation, which is not paddle and it's not pickle. It's Padel. It's big in Europe.

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It's like a racket sport. And, uh, everyone in my family is great at racket sports, but I am not. You And instead, it's little things, but instead of being like, oh my God, I suck. I was saying things like, I'm not, I'm not quite good yet. I'll be better the next time. It's just these little things. And then I read that you're big on starting the day by saying, this is going to be a great day.

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And I've been doing it. It's just these little, little pick me ups, doc. They actually have been making a nice difference in my life.

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and they steal their self-esteem. And you are making the point that you may think you're doing all the household chores or whatever it is. In our neighborhood, all the parents drop their kids off at the bus stop. Like what? Back in my day, we had to walk to the bus stop and wait for the... They sit in these beautiful SUVs and whatever.

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Right. Right. Oh, it's a table tennis is hilarious. It's great. My kids love it. They're very good with all rackets. They have the Doug Brunt, my husband's hand. I, I don't yet have it. I'll maybe this will be my year, but I have dreams of secretly going to the ping pong place. There's a table tennis place, not far from where I live and like saying I'm working out or something else.

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And then in the summer, when we really play a lot of it, Busting out my ninja skills on my kids and bam, showing them like they're like those Olympic with the, it's great to watch. Even my 11 year old has to go easy on me now because he's so good at it. But that's interesting with the table tennis. Before we leave this topic, what is a brain healthy hot chocolate?

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You may think you're helping or being kind to your child and you are making the point that's a you thing. You're doing that to make yourself feel good and you are stealing something important from your kid in the process. Let's kick it off there.

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It's just those two things, almond milk and what was the third thing?

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Oh, I see. Okay. All right. And how much of the chocolate stevia goes in there? Just like a packet or what?

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Oh, all right. That's good. I can do this. All right. Now wait, let's go back to the brain scans and what you were saying about mental illness. So fascinating. So if, if somebody comes into you and says, I I'm depressed or I have anxiety or whatever it is, is the first thing you would do as a psychiatrist, a brain scan, you wouldn't just be like talk therapy or the big thing now is take this drug.

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So what, well, what could you see in a brain scan that would change the way you would help somebody coming in with any one of those things or other things people see a psychiatrist for?

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Wow. This is going to come as such good news to so many people who just think like, uh, I'm this way, but maybe it's, it is like a physical ailment that you could address. Is there, and on that front, is there a way? Cause like if you say you hurt your brain when you got that concussion, when you were 10, you know, that seems like something I'm kind of stuck with, but you're saying no.

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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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Yes. No, I see this with parents all the time where they solve their child's problems, not necessarily speaking about homework, but just the kid comes up with, well, this kid did this to me. And rather than teaching the child how to think it through, they say, this is what you should do. And I think a lot of parents enjoy the dependency that results from that.

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Do you, do you know how they decided to handle the scene in, in the, in the final cut of the movie?

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Right. Where he too was shot. I mean, he was shot with the same bullet, right? We believe it was the same bullet that hit both Joel and Helena, fired from Alec Baldwin's gun, which was supposed to be... not, was not supposed to have live rounds in it, but did. And one of the big mysteries of this case in the criminal proceedings that have gone down is how did that live round get in there?

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How did it get in there in what was supposed to be a dummy round? As I understand it, this is one of those guns where you can see the bullets. And so when you bring out this said gun, a prop gun on a set, you need fake bullets that look like real bullets there. That's why they call them dummy rounds. They're not exactly blanks. There's something else.

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And, um, the armorer somehow had a weapon supply in there that had live rounds mixed in with dummy rounds. And that is how Alec wound up shooting Helena and Joel with this one bullet. The real debate is, legally became, did he pull the trigger? He said no. Then the FBI and many experts said that's not possible. He had to have pulled the trigger.

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Even some of his defenders said he shouldn't pull the trigger, but nobody, if they pull the trigger, is thinking that there's a live round in there. And then people on the other side said, no, this is why you never pull the trigger. So these are just some of the debates that were unfolding in the industry over this time. The armorer,

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He's got some amazing advice for all of us. Dr. Daniel Amen is a double board certified psychiatrist, including of child psychiatry and author of the book, Raising Mentally Strong Kids. How to combine the power of neuroscience with love and logic to grow confident, kind, responsible, and resilient children and young adults.

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Hannah Gutierrez-Reed is the daughter of a very famous, respected armorer in Hollywood. But she did not have that level of respect. And you delve into kind of how she got this job and some of the safety questions that came up around her performance early on.

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Seth Kinney is the name of the guy who supplied the ammo to the armorer. And there was a bit of a, you know, finger pointing thing between the two of them where Hannah Gutierrez Reed was like, he gave me a box of mixed live rounds and dummy rounds. She still would have had responsibility for making sure whatever went into the guns she had on set was only dummy rounds.

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But I, and he denied that he had done that. But I remember that was one of the points of contention that

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You get at this in your documentary. Again, it is called Last Take, Rust and the Story of Helena. It's on Hulu right now. You get at this in part with the special effects team. And one guy in particular who was talking about something called a squib, which I didn't know anything about a squib, but a squib is like something you kind of like, it's fake blood that you...

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as a special effects guy, make sure gets on the person in the movie who needs to look like they've been shot. And just, here's, uh, here's a bit from that. Let's listen to stop 45.

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You just think about the horror of those in that room, Helena, chief of all, but those around her. I mean, everybody, Alec Baldwin, all of them were horrified. I think everyone accepts that. And the assistant director, David Halls, we talked a little bit about the armorer, but he also takes responsibility and had to because it was he was the person who handed the gun to Alec.

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And the rules are that he should have checked it, too. There's supposed to be all these redundancies built in so that this can never happen. You did speak to him. You spoke to everybody except Alec. But here is a bit from the assistant director, David Halls, in SOP 44.

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This poor guy. Yeah. I'm just watching that. And you know what I'm thinking, Rachel is like, it's when people say it wasn't my fault. It wasn't, it was someone else's responsibility that we all pile on that. We, that we are the ones saying, no, it was you. When you hear a guy like that, you have the opposite instinct. You know, you, you want to relieve him.

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there was a moment in which he could have stopped it. But I mean, it's like the armorer, if we presume, as she says, that she did shake the bullets, because that should have been a different shaking sound from a dummy round versus a live round is what they said.

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If she really did do it, who knows if she really did do it, but if she really did do it and she wasn't able to determine the dummy from the live, could David really have done it? I mean, not an ammo expert. We have redundancies, but we're probably thinking on most of these sets, they're mostly unnecessary.

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We're really kind of just making sure it's not, there's not like an obvious problem and this wouldn't have been. The stuff with the crew really jumped out at me. I know she was crew, obviously she was part of the crew, but as somebody who's been not an actress, but on camera for many years, you get very close to your crew and the crew guys are like truth detectors.

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Like they just, if you're a bitch, if you're a nightmare to work with, They know, they just know. And these guys clearly loved her and loved working with her. And there's a, we pulled this clip of a guy named Jonas Huerta from the camera crew who also seems to be taking responsibility. You know, it's like he, they all, all these good guys are like, it was on me. It was on me. It was on me.

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He walked off along with many others that day because the set was riddled with safety concerns.

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That was her world. Those were her, you know, frontline workers. And I'm sure they were affected probably more than even the cast by her death. On the subject of Alec, he was charged and then ultimately the charges were dismissed with prejudice, which means that we're done. He's not going to get charged again. Yeah.

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he has a reality show with his wife and she spoke to the effect, this whole thing. I mean, the shooting, obviously he was holding the gun to the almost criminal prosecution to just the public aftermath and all of it. And, uh, here's what she said on their TLC show recently.

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What do you make of that, Rachel? And why do you think he did not speak with you for this documentary?

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or you know just like cops and people and i mean he had to deal with the horror of actually having caused it you know using that term gun yeah just as a matter of fact i mean he definitely caused it um so the film it doesn't have a villain do you think you know having made it now like who is to blame like what on what do you blame the death of your friend

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And what if they say, what can I do? What can I do? Mom, what can I do?

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Was it a money problem? I mean, that's what we read in the news is that it was underfunded. Basically, they were they were trying to do it to skinny.

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Do you, maybe this is a weird question, but whenever there's tragic loss, especially if someone at a young age and a mother, a wife, I, I think it's natural to ask why, what, you know, what good could possibly come of this? Why would God allow this? Is there some greater meaning that's, that's been gleaned from it? Will it, will the death save lives?

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But I think what you said is very interesting. Everybody wants to build mentally tough kids, resilient kids. Now, growing up in the 70s, the way that my mom did it was she just insulted me a lot. Kind of joking, but there's a little truth to it. I don't know. She didn't coddle us, is my point. Never coddled us. And she never told us we were good at something that we weren't good at, ever.

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Your film is trying and your film is doing it even more so than the completion of rust because people, there will be a segment of the population that goes to see that movie that doesn't know anything about the backstory. You know, the young people who don't follow the news that much. And yeah,

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But if you watch this documentary, you will know, you will know her, you will learn some lessons about safety and redundancies and so on, how things can go terribly wrong. And I'm sure there'll be a lot of industry people who are way more interested in your product than in the final movie, but they'll probably see both.

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And maybe they will learn something because you chose to take this on as painful as it was for you as a friend. So hats off to you. I mean, literally hats off to you. That's a sweet story about her hat. She was lucky to have you as a friend. And I, I admire all the work you put into this. Well done. Thank you for telling us the story, Rachel.

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Oh, that's very kind. Good, good luck with it. And please everybody check it out again. It's called last take, which is also a great title, profound last take rust and the story of Alina. And it's on Hulu right now. See you next time. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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So I always had a very keen sense of what was an actual skill versus a fake skill. You know what I mean? I never overjudged my capacity for something. Now, I'm a lot nicer than my mom was. So then I worry, am I going to raise soft kids? Do I need to insult them more? What is the way forward?

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Can we talk about the advice giving, because we mentioned this a second ago, about helping them solve their own problems and maybe helping them walk the path with the right questions they should be asking.

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But can you speak to the difference between, if there is any, that process when you're dealing with, let's say my kids are 11, 13, and 15, and then my friend who I talk to a lot about her adult children who are more like 31 and 29, she desperately wants to weigh in on like, who they're dating or their latest job choice. And I'm over here like, I wouldn't. I wouldn't. Not at that age.

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But at my ages, I think you do have to be more vocal about your opinions. I don't know. Am I wrong?

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Well, and also I worry that you create resentment. I worry, you know, in expressing your real opinion about, let's say, you know, the daughter's boyfriend, if the daughter's 27. I don't know. I feel like at that age, they're going to do what they're going to do. And I would be very hesitant. I would feel like my role was more to be like. you know, you'll figure it out.

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How do you feel when you're around? I just ask questions as opposed to say how I feel, because I'd be worried that if I'm like, he's a, he's a shit, like this is definitely not the one for you. You have a greater likelihood of you either throwing her into his arms just because, you know, it's okay for you to think your guy's bad, but if anybody else thinks it, then you're defensive of him.

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Um, or her just, I don't know, clamming, clamming up and not sharing future things with you.

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That's exactly what I'm going to do. Yeah. Somebody once told me that we've had many, many dog trainers because we have a very naughty boy in our dog family. And somebody said, it's the same way that you would raise a good kid. Expected behavior is not commented on. Great behavior, good extra behavior is praised fully and vocally, and negative behaviors are ignored.

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unless they can't be, you know, unless like he's in the process of biting somebody and like intervention is required. But I kind of like that, right? It's like, you don't thank your kid for unloading the dishwasher because that's an expected chore that's part of being a member of this family.

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Use promo code MK at checkout to save 10% on your entire purchase. Again, that's getjackedup.com. Welcome to the show, Dr. Amen. Great to have you.

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Same way they don't expect, you know, I don't expect them to thank me for making my bed, you know, like that kind of thing. But like an extra kindness or an extra moment of politeness or of them like looking out for each other, Stuff you want to see a lot, lot more of. Yeah, I vocally praise that profusely.

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Conservative attorney Brad Schimel running against liberal judge Susan Crawford. The race holding national implications at stake, the balance of power in the U.S. House of Representatives. If liberals retain control of the court, the current GOP-drawn congressional map could be thrown out, and with it, two Republican U.S. House seats.

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House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries indicating Democrats are planning a challenge.

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Wisconsin voters turning out in the state Supreme Court election, an election with national ramifications. Front-running French presidential candidate Marie Le Pen barred from running for office following embezzlement charges. This has been deemed a hate crime. Law enforcement investigating a potential arson attack on the New Mexico state GOP headquarters.

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Elon Musk rallying Wisconsin voters in a Sunday night get-out-the-vote town hall in the critical swing state.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Tuesday, April 1st, 2025, and this is your AM Update.

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On Monday, the Trafalgar Group releasing a poll showing the candidates in a statistical tie. Ms. Crawford coming in at 50.8%, Mr. Schimel, 49.2.

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Much of Mr. Musk's town hall focusing on national issues, billionaire venture capitalist and Doge team member Antonio Gracias joining in to lay out what he says is a process used by the Biden administration to grant social security numbers to illegal aliens.

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Non-citizens must be lawfully present in the U.S. to receive a Social Security number. It's unclear whether the individuals described by Mr. Gracias are defrauding the system with false documents or if the Social Security Administration is issuing numbers without properly verifying legal status. Mr. Gracias followed up with a more concerning claim about these non-citizens.

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We'll have the results of this election in tomorrow's edition of the AM Update. Frontrunner in the 2027 French presidential election, right-wing candidate Marie Le Pen barred on Monday from running for political office for five years. A French court finding Ms. Le Pen guilty of embezzling European Union funds. Ms.

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Le Pen sentenced to four years in prison, only two of which have to be served under house arrest and a 100,000 euro fine. Ms. Le Pen's party, National Rally, ordered to pay 2 million euros. The court finding that between 2004 and 2016, while serving in the European Parliament, Ms. Le Pen and her party allegedly misused approximately 4.4 million euros in EU funds.

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And what's really behind President Trump's third term talk? A possible media troll? All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update. As President Trump is settling into his new administration, one of the top Democrats in Congress aiming to undermine the Trump agenda is Democrat Senator Dick Durbin of Illinois.

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As a member of European Parliament, Ms. Le Pen was allotted funds by the EU to hire parliamentary assistants. The court finding Ms. Le Pen diverted that money to National Rally Party staffers who were mainly working on domestic political activities in France, not on EU parliamentary duties.

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Many on the right in France and abroad drawing comparisons between Le Pen's case and what they view as legal lawfare tactics used against Donald Trump ahead of the 2024 U.S. election. State Department spokeswoman Tammy Bruce on Monday referencing Vice President J.D. Vance's warning to our European counterparts.

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Legal scholar Hans Manke writing on X, quote, What the media is breathlessly calling embezzlement is nothing more than a ludicrously contrived campaign finance dispute. Le Pen, as both an EU and French politician, paid some of her assistance from her EU account. Mr. Manke describes the practice as, quote, perfectly normal.

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French writer and fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center, Pascal Emmanuel Gobry, writing on X, quote, to be clear, Marie Le Pen is not even accused of personally profiting from anything. The charge is that some of her aides in the European Parliament also worked for the party and not just on parliamentary work.

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This was a common practice for a long time, and several other parties stand accused of doing the same, end quote. prior to her conviction, Ms. Le Pen leading the polls as the favorite to replace President Emmanuel Macron. Ms. Le Pen challenged Mr. Macron in 2017 and 2022, the second time around, faring better, but still coming up short at 41% to his 59%.

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National Rally, frequently cast as far-right by its critics, strongly opposes illegal immigration, advocated for tough-on-crime policies, favors French nationalism over globalization, and aims to preserve French culture. Ms. Le Pen responding to her political ban, saying, Let's be clear. I am eliminated, but in reality it is millions of French people whose voices have been eliminated. Ms.

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Le Pen going on to say that she will appeal the verdict and continue running if it is overturned, though that is unlikely to happen in time for the 2027 election. Right-wing European populist movement surging across Europe in recent years, widely seen as a backlash to the globalist policies defining the previous decade.

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In December, Romania's Constitutional Court annulling the first round of presidential elections there after right-wing candidate Kalin Georgescu took an unexpected lead. The court citing alleged Russian interference as the reason for invalidating that vote. Romanian officials then postponing the election until May. In the first round of voting, Mr. Georgescu securing about 23% of the vote.

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And according to our sponsor, the Electronic Payments Coalition, Senator Durbin has a new plan, a government takeover of your credit card. Today, Americans have thousands of choices in credit cards, but they say Senator Durbin's plan will result in less competition and less security, which means more risk for your credit and your identity.

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He now leads the pack with 37 support heading into the rerun. Coming up, New Mexico officials discover an incendiary device placed at the state GOP headquarters. The latest on the investigation. And what's really behind President Trump's third term talk? A possible media troll? Thank you so much for having me. We'll see you next time.

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And right now they're giving you 20% off your first order with my code Megan. Invest in your health. Go to WeHeartNutrition.com and use the code Megan for 20% off. That's WeHeartNutrition.com, code Megan. Officials in New Mexico investigating the cause of a fire at the GOP HQ in Albuquerque as arson. Around 6 a.m. on Sunday morning, the fire department responding to a call.

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The blaze enveloping the entryway of the building, taking about five minutes to contain. New Mexico GOP chairwoman Amy Barella telling Fox News the incident is being investigated as a hate crime.

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Also discovered, the words ICE equals KKK, a common slogan among leftist agitators, spray-painted on the side of the GOP HQ building. An ATF official confirming to the Santa Fe New Mexican newspaper a joint investigation with the FBI and Albuquerque Fire and Rescue is underway.

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While no suspects have yet been identified, this is the latest act of suspected political vandalism following a series of similar attacks on Tesla facilities in recent weeks. The attack just one day after Democrat Congresswoman from New Mexico, Teresa Legere Fernandez, making these remarks.

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You can learn more for yourself at guardyourcard.org, and you could consider telling your senators to stop Dick Durbin's government takeover of your credit card before it's too late. Today in Wisconsin, voters turning out to decide whether the state Supreme Court will maintain its current 4-3 liberal majority or flip conservative.

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The Democratic Party of New Mexico offering in a statement, quote, we firmly maintain that this sort of act has absolutely no place in our democracy and that peaceful discourse and organization are the only ways to approach political differences in our country. President Trump's first international trip of his second term will be to Saudi Arabia.

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Axios reporting the president plans to travel to the Gulf nation in mid-May. Saudi Arabia also the site of Mr. Trump's first international trip in his first administration, a break in tradition with past presidents who typically visit Canada, Mexico or the UK. In early March, President Trump telling reporters in the Oval his reasons for visiting the Saudis first.

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In January, the Saudi prince said the kingdom was prepared to invest $600 billion into the U.S. over the next four years. An unnamed U.S. official telling Axios, quote, talks will focus on discussing foreign investments, strengthening relationships with Gulf nations, and ending conflict in the Middle East.

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Last week, President Trump announcing his goal of adding more countries to the Abraham Accords, a series of agreements establishing diplomatic and economic ties between Israel and several Arab nations. Axios reporting those plans are on the back burner as the Saudis are demanding the creation of a Palestinian state.

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President Trump trolling, we think, the media with talk of a potential third term.

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NBC reporting, quote, President Donald Trump did not rule out the possibility of seeking a third term in the White House, which is prohibited by the Constitution under the 22nd Amendment, saying in an exclusive interview with NBC News that there were methods for doing so and clarifying that he was, quote, not joking. The rest of the media quickly picking up on the story.

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Legal scholars are raising concerns after President Trump said he's considering a third term.

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It is against the Constitution and actually it's against what we stand for as Americans. Harvard Law professor emeritus Alan Dershowitz, who taught constitutional law for 50 years, says there is technically a way for President Trump to do it, but it is extremely convoluted and highly unlikely. On Sunday night, President Trump waving off the frenzy from Air Force One.

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And that'll do it for your AM update. I'm Megyn Kelly. Don't forget to be aware of April Fool's jokes today. They're lurking everywhere, especially on the internet. What's not a joke is we'll be on Sirius XM Triumph Channel 111 at noon east on youtube.com slash Megyn Kelly and on all podcast platforms.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. Utter devastation in Los Angeles as fires continued overnight and were said to be 0% contained. I mean, they've been 0% contained basically since this thing started. We told you how bad the fires were yesterday. Things have only gotten worse.

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he blasted them for infrastructure problems that struggle to meet the firefighting demand, saying there's no water in the fire hydrants. And saying the firefighters are there, there's nothing they can do. We've got neighborhoods burning, homes burning, businesses burning. It should never happen. The LA City Council member, Tracy Park, who represents the Palisades area,

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and was with this Janice Quinones, the woman who runs the water department who you just heard from at this news conference, was also in the LA Times words expressing her fury over the Department of Water Supply issues. Quote, the chronic underinvestment in the city of LA and our public infrastructure and our public safety partners was evident and on full display over the last 24 hours.

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It's not like a tornado that comes through in minutes and no human can do much about it. Fires are a known risk in California. Water supply is a known issue in Los Angeles. None of this is a mystery. The Santa Ana winds come every year and they do bring serious threats of fire and the spreading of it. The level of incompetence to have not been prepared They failed at every level.

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I'm extremely concerned about this. I'm already working with my team to take a closer look. And I think we've got more questions than answers at this point. They say, okay, well, we brought in other tanks to backfill the water supply, but they had to get the water from a totally different region. And that takes time to bring it up. They're totally underprepared.

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And now, as you've got five people dead, and I'm sure the death toll, unfortunately, will rise, and 1,000-plus structures burned, and that number will certainly go way up, you've got ridiculous tweets like this one going out from...

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pride groups like pride.com on the chief firefighter who we told you about, Kristen Crowley, who's been spending time working on DEI within the fire department and celebrating her own gayness, literally, in her bio and elsewhere. She wants to celebrate how gay she is. Well, no, I refuse. I don't care. With a tweet like this.

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Amid Palisades fire, Los Angeles' first LGBTQ plus fire chief is proving lesbians get it done. There's something wrong with you people. It's a whole article that they tweeted out. There's something wrong with, like you need to have your heads examined. In the midst of people dying and losing everything, this insane group that I'll bet you a lot of people in L.A.

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have donated to would like us to take a moment to celebrate her lesbianism. We refuse. I think I speak for the Los Angelinos when I say no. No. How is she getting it done exactly? The homes are burning. It's not just this woman in charge of the water department.

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Why didn't the fire chief have any idea of how much reserves were available and the risks that were about to come and what the plans were? The exit plans for those who needed to be evacuated, the foreseeable problem that those who are in the upper levels of the hills would not have enough water if the people in the lower levels of the hills used a lot of it to fight fires.

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I'm an anchor at a news desk. And if you asked me to think about this for an hour, I could have predicted this stuff. These people, they devote their lives to it. Or do they? Or do they? Because this woman, Kristen Crowley, the fire chief, is spending a lot of time thinking about how to hire more women and gays at the fire department. It's infuriating.

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Now some in the media, I don't know if it's stupidity, ignorance, or bias, but some are actually on the air denying this. that the fire hydrants ran out of water. Hello? The officials are already admitting that.

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In this particularly embarrassing report that was on the local LA Fox, this anchor, Melvin Robert, tries to debunk Rick Caruso, the guy I mentioned who ran for mayor and lost to Karen Bass, tried to debunk his claim that the fire hydrants had run out of water, only to then be corrected by a reporter who was in the field speaking with the firefighters. Watch this.

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Yeah, they have no water. And by the way, MSNBC reported the same after speaking with one of the fire captains on scene. Take a listen to SOT6.

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Think of those poor firefighters and the people who own the homes they're trying to save. Can you imagine? These firefighters put their lives on the line to go out there at great risk to themselves. And they get there. They manage to get through the smoke and the traffic. People are abandoning their cars. It's not easy for these firefighters to even get to the scenes in many cases.

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And they hook up the hoses and they've got the trucks ready and nothing comes out. Because it wasn't planned for. Because the mayor was in Ghana. And this woman, Janice, didn't do her job that she's getting paid almost a million dollars a year to do.

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And when asked about why there were utter failures, she says, oh, it's really hard to use an urban water system to put out what is essentially a wildfire. We know that. It's your job, literally, to think about how to overcome those challenges. Then, of course, all of this starts well before the fire is upon the homes in Pasadena or the Palisades.

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The brave men and women of the LAFD, that's a different story. God bless them and the LAPD who are putting their lives on the line, going in there, trying to battle this blaze and to protect people as they evacuate. They're from their homes. Hats off to them and nothing but respect.

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Or last night, it jumped over to the Hollywood Hills before being stopped. All of this starts well before that. And that gets to... The cutting back of brush, which L.A. should have been doing and wasn't, which individual citizens should have been doing and apparently weren't in many cases. And maintenance of the forests around the area.

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This is what Trump has been jumping up and down about for quite some time. He mentioned this on Joe Rogan. When he went on Joe Rogan before the election and made these points.

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Well, there are all sorts of environmental reasons why Gavin Newsom and others in California resist that. They've got a long list of reasons why they think that that's inappropriate or they don't want to get to it, or maybe it's just incompetence.

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Here's Michael Schellenberger, former Greenpeace activist, worked during the Obama administration with Solyndra to install all of these new green energy programs, only to find out that they didn't work and that they were a lie. And now he's become... just a truth teller. He's not even an activist.

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He's just a truth teller on all matters environmental and truly one of the most trustworthy sources you can go to on these issues. He's very open-minded to climate change and global warming, all that stuff. But he's very factual. And here he is talking about whether now, because the left is climate change. This is all climate change.

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And here's Michael Schellenberg talking about whether this is all climate change.

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But there is only so much they can do when the fire department does not have the water to fight the worst fire in the city's history. Like a fireman is powerless without his hose turning on. You might've heard about this new brand called XXXY Athletics. This is the only athletic brand that is standing up for women's sports.

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All right, so that's Schellenberger interviewing an expert on his show, who is John Keeley, U.S. Geological Survey scientist, who studied fires for 40 years. Here is Trump with some criticism of Governor Gavin Newsom. Take a listen.

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Then you had Gavin Newsom asked by Anderson Cooper about this feedback. And here's how that went.

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Yeah, because there are legitimate questions about how your city got into this position to begin with. And you're the governor and completely fair game. Look at him trying to be all indignant. Let me tell you something, Gavin Newsom. It's not just the homes of Los Angeles that are in flames. It's your political career. You can kiss your presidential hopes goodbye. Goodbye.

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You've just lost the city of Los Angeles and probably the state of California. Never mind the nation. Because of your poor planning. Oh, the locals will have to speak to. Total fail. Another word. That was Anderson Cooper, obviously, you know, pretending to be just so disgusted by the fact that Trump would politicize this matter. Even the LA Times is talking about who's to blame in California.

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Okay, Anderson. But I will say this about Anderson Cooper. He's an actual war correspondent. And there isn't a natural disaster that he won't go report from. And I respect that. Something I've never done. Although I did volunteer to go to Iraq back in 2005 and 2006 when Roger Ailes refused to send me. Anyway, um... I respect that. I respect that he puts himself in danger.

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And he and I had a long conversation about it on my show on Fox one time. Um, Anderson Cooper does go to these sites, puts himself in danger to bring us the news. And so does, uh, Steve Harrigan at Fox news, same thing, natural disasters or sites. Rick Leventhal was, you know, big on that at Fox for many, many years.

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And when these guys go generally, I've never seen in their cases, them worry about how svelte their waists look while on camera. Um, in reporting about the devastation behind them. That is because they actually know how to report from a natural disaster. Unlike David Muir, would you please look at the screen, ladies and gentlemen? Look, he's first of all wearing a fake fireman's jacket.

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And what you're seeing on the close up as he turns to reference the scene behind him and shows us his back, which clearly he wasn't anticipating would make it on cam. his clothespins, pulling his jacket in, cinching it, if you will, my ladies, so that his waist looks more svelte on camera. The abject vanity of this man. Why is he pretending to be a fireman? This is not dress-up time.

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It was founded by former elite gymnast and longtime Levi's executive, Jennifer Say. She was the first gymnast to speak out about the abuse in women's gymnastics. And she pushed back on lockdowns and closed schools during COVID. And for that, she was canceled by corporate America. The horror of wanting kids to go to school. So she started her own brand.

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That's something that my little boys did when they were still in the single digits, would put on the fun fireman's jacket and pretend to be firemen. That is not something that the host of World News Tonight for ABC News Broadcast Network should be doing live from a disaster scene. It's not dress up time, my friend. I'm big on the costume nights.

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We do it at home with my children when we're on vacation, not on the news when people are dying. What are you doing? And there's no need to put David Muir in a yellow jacket with the fireman's reflective stripes on it. He's surrounded by ABC News crews, by ABC News trucks, by ABC News photogs, producers, lighting, sound guys. You can't see them. They don't put them on camera.

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But trust me, there is a semicircle on the other side of David Muir that is probably a couple dozen in number. And they want us to be like, well, he's going to get run over by a car. No, he's not. It's for show. He's an actor on screen. That's what's happening there. And the clothespins just put a period behind that sentence.

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Yes, he's an actor who's worried about his own vanity and beauty on camera. God forbid you think David Muir might be a little boxy in the waist. What in the... I'm like, I don't... I... care about how I look on camera for sure. And I have reported from terrible sites, not fires. I don't think I've ever gone to a fire, but I've gone to disasters before.

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And sure enough, I wake up in the morning and I put on my makeup. It's not that I go to the sites without my makeup. And I give a thought to what I'll wear. Will it be appropriate? You don't want to be showing too much skin. Of course, if you're on camera, you're going to give some thought to how you look. But I'm sorry, this is a bridge too far.

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His little pretend fireman role coupled with his, is my waist looking skinny enough? Vanity is too much. And we saw his vanity on full display at that Trump debate where he tried to do the, I detected no sarcasm in those remarks. He's in love with his own face, waistline, and opinion. And it shows. He has disgraced and discredited himself this year. And ABC News really needs to move on.

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I'm sorry. This is just, you need to move on. They've spent so much money trying to build this guy's image. You know, the promos for David Muir, you would think he was Jesus. I mean, the way they, you know, like with the jawline. And I hate to rip on him because he went to Syracuse like me. But rip, I will. Because he deserves it. But it's all about image.

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Like, oh, I'm thinking about this difficult problem. I'm David Muir. I'm tough and I'm smart and I'm hot. And this, look at this. A good producer friend of mine reminded me after I tweeted on this that he's not the first vain person absurd anchorman to obsess over his jacket on television and brought me back to this moment when Dan Rather, I don't know how this came out, but it's on YouTube.

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Dan Rather was on camera getting ready for a live shot near the Seattle Space Needle and for 15 minutes, I think it was, was conferring with his producers about whether he would wear his trench coat or just go with his suit jacket and whether he would put the trench coat collar up or wear it down. This is not a 30-second, should I wear the jacket? No. Should I put the collar up? No. No.

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For over 15 minutes, they kept a running clock, the guy who posted on YouTube, the number of minutes that they debated. And Dan was totally into it with his producer who went on to run 60 minutes. We've condensed it for you. Look at this.

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unbelievable. It went on for almost 20 minutes. This is apparently released by Harry Shear 17 years ago when he was doing like a series of these and it's on YouTube and it's great. We'll link to it in the description and being coached on by his executive producer who would wind up producing 60 minutes, Jeff Fager, like this was a real debate.

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Like they were debating an actual piece of editorial that they needed to get right Went on and on.

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Dan Rather complimented, I think, his wife for selecting a green jacket, and the green looked good, and really lamented that they should have come earlier and pre-taped the show at noon so that he could have done it in comfort in just his suit coat without this disastrous trench coat covering his great look.

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And then he was really cold, so he needed to wear the jacket, but did he look cooler with the... And how did Dan Rather's career at CBS end in infamy as well?

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Just like David Muir, which, I mean, he ended his career effectively for half the country in that debate with Trump because his own opinions, his own vainglorious nature wound up stopping him from understanding what the role of an independent journalist is supposed to be. So there you have it. Two men whose vanity would ultimately prove to be their downfall in the media.

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And in this case, it's really sad because David Muir is actually trusted by some number of Americans to bring them the news about what's happening in Los Angeles. This extremely serious situation. And the man's worried about his tiny little waist showing on camera. You can't make it up.

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All right, now we're going to turn to two friends of the show who have been directly affected by these wildfires who at this moment do not know whether their homes are still standing or not. We're going to be joined in just a bit by Adam Carolla, who's got a lot of thoughts on these politicians, but joining me next, legendary actor James Woods. We'll be right back.

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That's ground, G-R-O-U-N-D news.com slash Megan to take back control of the news you consume. James, so glad to see that you're okay and your beautiful wife I know is okay, but I know your home and your neighborhood are not. How are you?

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This is the video from your back deck here that we're looking at, James?

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But the mayor of Los Angeles, Karen Bass, is now finally back from Ghana. Joe Biden sent her there? For the inauguration? Who gives a crap? Why is the L.A. mayor going to Ghana for some political event? What in the actual F? And let me tell you something. The warnings about these Santa Ana winds being worse than normal and bringing a grave threat were all over the place. You look back at the L.A.

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So when you're leaving, I'm just curious from a human perspective, when you and Sarah are leaving your home under these mandatory evacuation orders, and you know this is a real threat, what do you take? What does that conversation look like?

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Times now for days prior to this event, they were jumping up and down saying this actually could get really bad. And she's over there in Ghana for this ceremonial. Why? Why? Get your ass back home. Now there's a tweet. Let me see if I can find it quickly. Resurfacing online from, yeah, here it is.

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But the thing to be touting in line one of your bio should be your competence at fighting fires, managing the threat of fire, and hiring the right people.

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Let me take you back. So you're in the garage. You remember how to override if there's a mechanical failure. And is it just you and Sarah? Did you have you grabbed like an Oscar? Like, what have you grabbed? What have you?

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Now at least five people are dead. More than 25,000 acres have burned and hundreds of thousands are under mandatory evacuation orders. Over a thousand structures have been destroyed. These are people's homes, children's schools. Think about these little kids who have their books and their art projects and their schools completely burned to the ground with nowhere to go now.

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From when Ted Cruz got ridiculed for leaving Texas to go on vacation in the middle of some, I can't remember what was happening to Texas. Was it fires there? And she, Karen Bass- What was it, Steve? It was a snowstorm. Okay. You don't think snowstorm when you think Texas.

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In any event, she tweeted out, Ted Cruz fleeing Texas in the middle of a deadly crisis is part of a larger pattern of the GOP abandoning folks in crisis. We need to build a movement to kick them all out. Well, how'd that one go, madam? Is that part of your pattern on your team to... Abandon folks during a crisis?

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No. And it's like I feel this way and I don't have any love for Ben Affleck and his political positions, the way he hates Republicans. But I'm genuinely sad that he suffered that loss. I would never wish this like I feel like in a moment like this for any decent person, politics are they're set aside. Yes, we need to hold the leaders responsible who may have had a hand in

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That's causing the damage. But but, you know, in terms of those who are suffering, we don't give a shit about this. We fight. We have big, meaningful policy fights. But on something like this, we're Americans. We love each other. We help each other. We pray for each other. We reach out to one another.

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I mean, I I have been distressed to see the number of messages online directed at you and Sarah like good because people know that there was one I saw yesterday. This woman, Karen Piper, she's got, oh, I don't know, she was forced to later delete it, but she's got tens of thousands of followers. She writes, James Woods' house is burning down. It's karma calling. That's disgusting.

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I can't say it better than Sarah did, but Sarah wrote, you're disgusting. Our sweet little home is probably gone. Our neighbor's homes are gone. Our community is ravaged because of the ineptitude of Karen Bass and Gavin Newsom, and you're rejoicing because you disagree with my husband? Absolutely disgusting. Shame on you. There's more good than there is bad, James. That's for sure.

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But there's a fair amount of just raw political nastiness bubbling out there.

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Well, when you look at this, there are so many things that played a role. You know, you've got obviously the Santa Ana winds, which come every year. You've got the fire. Once the fire starts and those winds combine, it's a very dangerous combination no matter what.

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But it does seem like there were many mitigation factors that were ignored, even though the authorities knew or should have known that. That, for example, there wasn't enough water in the reservoirs. There wasn't water in the fire hydrants.

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I mean, I realize you sent a couple of tweets, but in this kind of situation, people like to see and hear from their leaders. And you were in Ghana enjoying yourself. Now, she finally holds a presser, and it was a complete disaster. First of all, before I get to the truly disastrous part, listen to her describing herself. I basically got on the back of Superman to come home.

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The electrical lines were still up, even though all this money had been spent to put them underground so that they wouldn't be sitting there like little tinder boxes ready to spread fire. And it hadn't been done. It just seems like there's a fair amount of things you actually, the underfunding of the

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of the FD, the LAFD, the underfunding of the LAPD to direct traffic and get people out of there in an orderly fashion? I mean, you tell me where you're going now in terms of what could or should have been done that wasn't.

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Who's checking the fire hydrants? Who's checking the reservoirs instead of sitting at their desk worrying about how many women they have on the LAFD?

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Hmm. James, thank you. I, I'm going to say another prayer for you both that the house is still there and that irrespective of how it turns out, you guys are okay. And you'll find a new home and a new neighborhood. And I'm sure your neighbors will rebuild too. That's just, that's the American spirit. And we don't generally give up and tuck tail and run. We may be angry, but

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We may have to find new solutions, but I really hope you'll rebuild and then convince your probably left-wing neighbors to reconsider the way they vote.

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Are we supposed to be giving credit for the fact that she didn't book too many layovers? This is an absurd person. And you don't have to take my word for it in response to that inanity you just heard. Listen to the mayor in her time of crisis, her city's time of massive crisis in directing people

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Joining me now, our friend Adam Carolla, California native. And Adam, what's your status? Thanks for joining us on this crazy time. Are you out? You're safe? Your family, pets, all of them?

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Wait, can you just tell me, do you listen to that as a Californian when you get one of those? Do you listen? Is that like, oh, they don't do this that often? Or is it one of those things like living in Florida where you get one for every small storm and then you have to spend the next hour figuring out whether it's real or not?

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where to go if they need information, which they do because their houses are burning and their family members in at least five cases are dying. Listen to this idiot in SOP 3.

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Mm-hmm. We were talking about this on our show yesterday. I have a friend who lives in the Pacific Palisades who is not a rich person at all. Her entire neighborhood is gone. It is gone. She's next to a retired nurse, a retired college professor, that kind of thing. And it's gone. There's not a shred left. All that's left of her house is the chimney.

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So it's sort of a weird time for you as you wonder, as you don't know. I just wonder, like, if I were in your position, what would I be thinking about all the things in my home that I love? And I was thinking about it earlier. You know, it's not just your keepsakes, the things that you adore, like family photos that go back, you know, in the 70s when we were kids. But like...

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you know, there's a reason that you chose the fixtures you did in your kitchen, maybe. Or like you put a lot of love and thought into certain parts of your home to make them reflect you and the things that you love. And it's the background, you know, Richie Sambora has a song, the soundtrack of your life. Like your home is sort of the background of your life and it's meaningful to you.

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So I wonder what you're thinking about when you think about what's there.

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Yeah, right, right. I totally understand that. You have a mechanical background. You almost had a firefighting background, but didn't. And it's the reason why is related to one of the things that people are complaining about today, which is the obsession with DEI. Even years ago in the fire department, including in the LA fire department, you actually testified before Congress.

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at URL. She is too stupid to be the mayor of Los Angeles. She is too stupid to be in public office. You failed, madam. You failed. You failed to prepare for the crisis. And then when your country and your city needed you, what did you do? You took the fastest route home with no layovers on a military plane? Great.

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in 2017 during a house hearing that was about free speech and white privilege, white male privilege too. And you made, you told a story that went totally viral and has gone viral again now for obvious reasons. Take a listen to part of your story here in SOT2.

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Yeah, well, today, I mean, there was just a firefighting headline, not today, but June of 2023 in NPR that reads as follows. Firefighting is mostly white and male. A California program aims to change that. So all those years later, they hadn't solved the problem. For some reason, they just couldn't find enough women who could do the job or wanted to.

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And then along came your current fire chief, who happens to be a woman and bonus, gay. Because who's not thinking about what kind of sex my fire chief likes to have? That's really where your mind goes when you're hiring someone for that job. And, you know, unlike somebody who maybe got it and just said, okay, that's fine. You factored it in, but let's ignore it.

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And when you got there, you were too dumb to realize that URL was a placeholder and then to actually look to your team and say, what is the URL? What is the web address? You are a moron. And I am sorry for our friends in Los Angeles who don't deserve this. I realize they voted for this woman, but I'm going to assume they thought she had two nickels to rub together in between her ears.

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Boy, oh boy, has this woman leaned in. Her name is Kristen Crowley. Here she is in one soundbite that was played on NBC in 2022. It's hot three.

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I mean, it's a crazy statement, but you're exactly right. Yeah, hopefully enough Americans are dead that someone's going to rethink these things. And we're starting to see it, seeing it globally now, blow back against left-wing policies and politicians. By the way, I know this newsflash, Joe Biden is still the president. He's the current president.

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And he held a presser with Gavin Newsom on Wednesday. And right on brand, the president thought now would be a great time for him to lighten the mood and have some fun as people like you are seeing your homes get burned down, your neighborhoods get burned down. And this is the pivot. Watch.

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He's a great grandfather. And he had a great grandchild who's a baby boy or a baby girl. Not clear which. He said both. So I'm sure you feel reassured.

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Live and learn. Then she gets caught. on the way to, I think this was the news conference, by a Sky News reporter. He got her at the airport. And man, did this guy do a good job. Take a listen to this and how I don't really care, to be honest, whether it's she can't or she won't answer the questions. I'm equally horrified either way, watch.

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you know, I should tell our audience he was going to be on the show today, but he had to postpone because of the fires. I think he's in the midst of this dealing with it himself. Yeah, no, he hasn't been totally red-pilled because he's got some TDS going there. He definitely hates Donald Trump, but he is one of the normal liberals who we all used to know and love and argue with, but didn't like

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get grossed out by like these woke people who care more about who you're sleeping with than whether you can fight fires when they put you in charge of a department. Look, I don't know whether this is Kristen Crowley's incompetent or not, but I know that the reservoirs weren't filled and the fire hydrants didn't have water.

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And it seems like something she should have been jumping up and down about for a long time because that's literally her job. There's a report, though, that a bunch of money, Adam, I mean, I haven't totally followed the California reservoir politics for a long time, but Jillian Michaels, she tweeted out that in 2014, voters in California,

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put $2.7 billion towards securing future water storage through Prop 1. By 2025, not a single reservoir has been completed. I mean, that's unbelievable. $2.7 billion towards securing future water storage 10 years ago, and by today, not a single reservoir has been completed. They spent money to put power lines underground, which also didn't happen.

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And they're also spending all this money on freaking high-speed rail, which has almost no chance of happening. So it's impossible to look at this and not ask whether some huge portion of it is due to mismanagement.

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The, this report, I want to get to the real again in one second, but just this, just report just coming to my attention. Um, In May of 2024, they hired a new Department of Water and Power head in L.A. by the name of Janice Quinones, who replaced a guy named Martin Adams, and they doubled the salary for that position. He was getting $435,000, $435,000. She got $750,000.

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They said they had to do it to stay competitive. So this woman... OK, who is younger and diverse and a woman gets the salary doubled and the fire hydrants remain empty. So it just seems like a problem to me. I don't know whether Los Angeles residents are going to find it a problem or not, but all this needs to be evaluated. And I don't know.

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I'm not saying it's because she's a woman, but I'm saying these people shouldn't be getting a pass because they're women either. They've been put in very important positions. And where is the fucking water for the reservoirs?

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Exactly. Well, I don't care what color she is or what gender she is. It appears there's been a massive screw up. I just was like, this was known. They were calling attention to this. It came out a couple of months ago that the reservoirs were a problem and that the fire hydrants were not full. And as great as the firefighters may be, they can't do the job without water.

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I mean, that's just not possible. The high-speed rail thing, it's just an example of incompetence. California is probably the best example in the country of blue control, total blue control, and total, utter incompetence. And this high-speed rail project, which has taken so much money and gone absolutely nowhere, is a great example of it.

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Congressman Kevin Kyle of California was railing—pardon the pun, Kylie—about this The other day saying we should not be giving more money to this project. The Fed should not. Californians should not. It's gone nowhere. And here he is espousing that.

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They've suffered enough, especially out in LA, where they closed schools forever during COVID. It is hard to describe the destruction. So many devastating videos and images. This one here encapsulates what our fellow Americans are dealing with right now. This is a photo from Altadena, California. And just for the listening audience, it's satellite.

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That's your tax money as a Californian and mine and our listeners as federal taxpayers. It's a joint effort. And what we might well have done instead is just taken our money, done this, and flushed it down the toilet. And so you can't help but think of it as California burns.

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That is utter incompetence. Again, picture Trump. Picture Trump in that circumstance. Would he ever just sit there ignoring the reporter firing those questions at him? No, he would say something. Say something resembling anything. Right, like, take a shot, madam.

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Right. And the house of so many people who don't have money, don't have insurance, don't have the first clue about how to rebuild or where to go. There was a woman speaking to ABC local talking about coming to get her parents who were, I think she said 90 out of their home in Pasadena, which was burning. And she was trying to save what she could have it.

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But look, this is like a real person who I'm sure she's complaining about the insurance. Take a listen.

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This is the first, this guy was on the plane with her coming back from Ghana, most direct route, fear not, and started firing questions at her. And this is her first chance to actually say something. I know you're going to a presser. Say, I'll address it more fully at the presser, but here's my message right now. You're an idiot. She's too dumb to do it. That's why she didn't do it.

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I'll tell you what, you can come stay in our house too. We have a little cottage right next door and Jimmy Kimmel can come too. Even though we disagree politically, I would help Jimmy Kimmel in a time of need. Feeling very magnanimous, but no, truly, I really am. I'm so sorry for the stress of all of this for you and everybody out there, Adam. All my best to you.

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Keep us updated. What a nightmare. I mean, what an absolute shit show. Charlie Kirk tweeted this out. He writes, a friend of a friend in West LA just saw looters plunder her evacuated house on her ring camera. I mean, it is crazy. We have a bunch of security at our house. We actually just added a ring camera, so I'm just now getting... used to the joys of that thing, it's actually quite fun.

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You can see everything. We have another more official one that other people monitor, but this is for me and Doug. And it gives you a little ring on your phone. You're like, oh, what's happening? What am I getting? Who's there? I mean, I'm sure it would feel very different if it were an actual burglar, robber, or ne'er-do-well.

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Anyway, what he's reporting is that there was a woman who saw looters go into her evacuated house. Sounds like it wasn't burned down. It's just evacuated. He writes her friends, including some who voted for Harris, are calling for summary execution of the looters. That's something you say, right? Like they should be executed.

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Turns out in this house, we believe politics disappear when your house does. I get it. I understand the spirit in which he's offering that. I'm sure that's probably true. Who wouldn't be sitting there thinking that if their house they had to evacuate because of serious threat of fire got looted?

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That's why the fire department wasn't ready. That's why she took nearly $20 million from them instead of fully funding the FD. Because she had other priorities like the homeless and the illegal immigrants. Those are the reports that she was doling out the money to help all the illegals who are in LA.

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Who wouldn't be thinking about reevaluating the competency of politicians who allowed all of these safeguards to fail? all of them, whether it's this woman at the Department of Water, the head of the LAFD, the mayor, Karen Batt. Stop. Trust me. Absolutely nothing against women. Nothing against women. Totally believe in strong female leaders too. Not seeing examples of them here. Be honest. Stop.

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Like, one of the things I saw when I was preparing for the Bill Maher interview, which will take place again when he can do it, was he had a quote about how... Oh, God, what was it? He was saying...

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It was about wokeness and how sick and tired of wokeness he is and how he's hoping at every turn that people will reevaluate it, that they're going to see these choices they've made have not come back to help them. I can't remember the specific quote. In any event, I'll get to it when he comes on.

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But it was a great quote and it just underscored how the left is so busy trying to like reach behind to give itself pats on the back at how virtuous they are. They've lost all touch with the number of people who get seriously hurt from those very efforts, right?

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So like they're so busy virtue signaling and hoping we think they're good people and trying to tell themselves they're good people in this house we believe that they forgot to actually be good people and hire good people to protect good people. This is the problem in California. This is a problem in Canada. This is the problem in the United States, which we just pushed back against massively.

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So this was the thing that Bill Maher was saying. He doesn't like Trump, as you know. But he said, even I, as a liberal, am kind of excited to see what Trump is going to do. I'm kind of excited to see, I think he's interested in Elon and potentially RFK. I'm kind of interested to see how it works out.

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And one of his lines was, I'm going to mess it up, but it was like, we don't need a revolution in America. We need a colonic, you know, like a clearing out of the system. We're old and we're stodgy and we're doing things in a way that's not working for people. That's why Trump won.

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That's why his team of superheroes is going to be ushered, not just into the presidency, but into the administration around Trump, the cabinet. And it's why Californians, my dear loving friends in California, must rethink. the decisions they've made at the local level, because the federal government can't really help you. That's the God's honest truth on something like this.

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And she didn't care about a known risk to the tax paying citizens of LA, the upstanding law abiding citizens of Los Angeles who pay her salary, who helped the city stay on its feet. Whatever you think of L.A., it's historic. It's beautiful. It's totally charming in its character. Forget the politics, all right? Just put that bullshit to the side.

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There could be some FEMA relief. What you needed was good local assistance. You needed competent local managers who know how to plan for these disasters and manage them when they come, like Ron DeSantis. I mean, let me ask my friends. We see who listens to the show. We have actually a lot of California listeners. Let me ask you this question. Do you think this would have happened to this extent?

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No one's saying some magical politician can stop fire. And the winds, of course, are the massive factor that pushes it fast and far. But do you really think this would have happened to this extent with these problems if Ron DeSantis had been your governor or the mayor of L.A. ? Do you really think that?

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Like this guy is a technocratic, prolifically hardworking Yale graduate who has a lifetime of elbow grease behind him. He didn't do well glad handing in the coffee shops of Iowa. He's not a natural retail politician. If you have him over for dinner, he's probably not going to be the most loved guest. All right.

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But he's an incredibly effective politician, a leader, you know, someone who gets elected via politics, who then must lead is my point. You need someone like that. Okay, maybe you're not going to go quite as right as a Ron DeSantis, though he will be looking for a job soon because of term limits in Florida. You should be so lucky as to get him in any role out there. But can you find your own?

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Can you say yes when this businessman runs against Karen Bass and says, I'll do the job. I'm actually a Democrat, and I have money, but I will help you. Can you be more open-minded so that instead of making yourselves feel good by patting yourselves on the back, you just do good? You check your identity politics. your obsession with DEI hiring and all that bullshit.

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And you look at who's the most competent manager we can unleash on the beautiful citizens of our beautiful cities and state. Because what seems to have happened here is one of the gems of the United States of America, California. one of, if not the most beautiful states in the union has been destroyed by left-wing politics and the decisions that come with them. Maybe it's too late.

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There are no red seats in the state house, in the U S you know, delegate, like there are no, there's no red in California. at all. So maybe it's too late, but maybe Adam's right that enough people have now died or been hurt as a result of these decisions that they'll start to make different ones. Here is the Bill Maher quote. Okay. I'm a big America booster, Maher says to the Wall Street Journal.

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One of my problems with the younger generation is they have no idea, no perspective. Of course, if they've gone to elite universities, factories, they've been indoctrinated into this idea that they live in the worst country in the world at the worst time in history, when actually they live in, with all of our flaws, still probably the best with definitely indisputably the best time in history.

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I like America. America does not need a revolution. What it needs is a colonic. Yeah. right on. Looking forward to speaking with Bill. On a personal note, really hope his house is okay. Hope Adam and James Woods get good news. Hope my friend Brian Friedman gets good news. I don't think so.

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And praying for my friends who I know have lost their homes and for those in all the area who are wondering and suffering today. Thank you all so much for listening and we'll be back tomorrow. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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You go out there and you drive around and you think, oh, my God, if it weren't for the politics, I'd live here. It's so pretty.

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pretty and cute and like all these like sort of no-name charming restaurants that are just off the beaten path where you can get really great food and like sole proprietors, still mom-and-pop businesses, unlike Manhattan, by the way, which was ruined by another Democrat, where he chased all the mom-and-pop proprietors out with his inane policies. In any event, it's sad that

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That this city is being lost before our very eyes because in part of the utter incompetence of people like Karen Bass. Go to URL. She's too dumb to be your leader. Can you recall a mayor? There should be an immediate recall. I know you can recall a governor. He's no better. Gavin Newsom with his stupid widow's peak. He's done nothing.

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Listen to him when he was asked about the fact that there's no water in the fire hydrants.

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The local folks are going to think, why don't you know the answer? What do you mean the local? Again, picture Ron DeSantis. You think he'd be like, some local folks. You want to be on TV so badly, you want to sit across from Anderson Cooper so badly that you decide to wing it, and then when the tough questions come, oh, the local folks are fake. No, you're the governor. You answer. You.

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The local folks are in Ghana. It's so infuriating. I mean, honestly, you guys know, my dear friend, who is not a rich person, lost her home. It's utterly... Destroyed. It is ashes now. Every belonging that she has. And she and thousands of others now are looking for answers on how this happened. And, oh, the local folks are going to figure it out. You know what the local folks said?

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It's a satellite image taken by Maxar Technologies. Before the fires, it looks like a normal city. And then this is the same area in a photo, an image taken yesterday after the entire neighborhood was destroyed. Look at that, just fire, destruction. It's just, you can't help but ask yourself, how could this happen in an American city?

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This woman we told you about yesterday whose salary was doubled. I don't know what her story is. All I know is she is a woman and she's Hispanic. She's a diversity hire. That doesn't mean she's not qualified, but they doubled her salary from the man who she replaced. She makes $750,000 a year. And this woman is out there saying, well, there were three...

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separate tanks that supplied water to the Palisades. The fire started 10.30 Tuesday morning, California time. And by that night, 3 a.m. overnight, Tuesday into Wednesday, the first one was totally empty. And by the next morning, the other two were totally empty. And therefore, the people did not stand a fighting chance.

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And her explanation was, well, it's very hard to fight a wildfire in an urban setting with urban water supply. Yeah, we know. You knew that a week ago. You knew that a month ago. Where the F was the planning? We know all that. We know that. Why are they looking at us now just telling us facts that were known like it's an explanation for their incompetence?

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Okay, so the people who were lower down in the hills couldn't get the water to the, they were using too much water to fight fires. Such that the people who are higher in the hills couldn't get the water, all of which was foreseeable. These are not explanations. These were foreseeable problems for which you failed to plan. This is not going to cut it.

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This is not going to cut it, even with the people of Los Angeles who are probably willing to give most Democrats the benefit of the doubt. And you can see that already time and time again on X, with many voicing their serious concerns about the failures of leadership.

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and even pieces in the LA Times, quoting heavily from people like Rick Caruso, who was the guy who challenged Karen Bass, who he was up against her for mayor, who again, he ran as a Democrat, but definitely sounds more like a Republican. He owns the Palisade Village Mall. which is in the heart of this West side neighborhood. And he says it suffered damage, but I don't think it burned.

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It's actually kind of, the reports are that it's one of the few things that didn't burn. I don't know what he was doing, but in any event, his daughter's home burned and he's waiting to find out whether his son's home was still standing. So he did, he has some real skin in this game. And he has come out to say, this is, this is the city's fault in large part that they're,

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. There is so much to get to today. It is an incredibly busy news day. President Trump announces the first trade deal with our longtime ally, the UK. The president says it's the first of many.

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Okay, we'll get to that. And we have a new nominee for Trump's Surgeon General. You know this if you listen to AM Update. And it's a great one. Dr. Casey Means, you all know her. She's been one of our favorites on the show these past two years. You know she's brilliant. She's taking some attacks. We'll get into why and discuss it in just a minute.

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What else is about to come out? You guys read it in Politico. They it looks like the Trump administration is going to release the audio of the her report. He was deemed a well-meaning elderly man with a poor memory. Couldn't remember when his son Bo died, when he was vice president. That's not going to go well. And they could be trying to get ahead of that as well. Here's a little bit more.

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Speaking of those around him who covered up his infirmity, or at least that's where my mind went, Dr. Jill was there too, and as usual, came to the rescue. Watch SOT 38.

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Those two are the same person in the same relationship in different ways. Second of all, she says none of these people writing the books work for us. Well, one of the first to have his book hit interviewed Ron Klain, who was Joe Biden's chief of staff for almost all of his presidency. And he went on the record saying that Biden thought he was president of NATO and

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Here to react to all of this, what a great day to have the news line up with these guys. Josh Holmes, Michael Duncan, John Ashbrook, and comfortably smug the hosts of Ruthless. Here's an idea for someone who has everything. Hot salt. Yes, I said it. Hot salt. Exquisite, savory heat. Now you're interested, so let me tell you about Firecracker Farm.

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Weren't we together when that broke? Didn't we talk about this? He thought he was president of NATO and didn't realize he was president of the United States. Where was that follow-up, ladies of The View? I must have missed it.

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They can't do a live follow-up. If you just stay steeped in the news, you could easily say, well, his chief of staff went on the record and said the following. Maybe their producers behind the scenes need to get smarter. And just write in the little follow up. He's they're likely to say he worked very hard or that none of his staff members wrote these books. Here is your follow up, you nimrods.

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But they either didn't put that down or they didn't know how to execute on it. It's incredibly frustrating.

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Yeah. That in my opinion, that's a clear sign of dementia. I've seen people I know struggling with it, use that as like filler. They've lost their train of thought. They don't know what to say next. And so they just, well, I'm not going to get it. Well, you know, well, nevermind. It's better. I don't say it. And it's like, and Biden was doing that at least for the last year of his presidency.

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We all saw it many times. Here's one more. There was an act that they did bring up the accusations of hiding his cognitive decline. Here's the good doctor responding. Oh gosh.

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You think that was at the Obamas? I was like, is that Obama? Is it Pelosi?

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Nancy Pelosi, Barack and Michelle, like who specifically are you thinking about? Let's go through it. Who do you feel betrayed by? Name names. Pelosi did. Pelosi went out there on a book tour. She spoke about this a lot. Why won't like Michelle Obama? They don't like her. So why wouldn't they? And the view doesn't want to hear it. That's the reason.

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Who, by the way, the interesting thing about Trump, of course, he spun the wisdom after Romney, which was we need comprehensive immigration reform. We need a path to citizenship for the illegals. And Trump came out in 15 saying, F all of that. We're not doing any of that.

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And, you know, that was the beginning of Trump not being beholden to any party dogma, just saying, I see it very differently and I will say it differently and I'm doing it differently. Um, okay. Speaking of doing things differently, Casey means is the new surgeon general nominee who this audience knows. Cause she's been on the program many times.

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He pulled Dr. Janet Neshawat, who was the sister-in-law of Mike walls. And my information is that's why she was chosen. Um, I was told that by somebody who is in a position to know, um, And Trump liked her because he saw her on Fox News. She's beautiful and she goes on Fox. And, you know, obviously that gives you a leg up with the president. But she didn't seem like the right person for the job.

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First of all, she went to a Caribbean medical school. And I'm sorry, but we all know what that means. Okay. She couldn't get into one stateside. You don't go to the Caribbean for medical school if you can get into any med school in the continental 50 United States. That's just how it is. I used to be married to a doctor. Trust me. I know. Okay.

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She ran CityMD, which is like, you know, that like urgent care clinic chain, the chain. It's like chain medicine. OK, so that's not ideal, but fine. Let's not get obsessed with credentials. That's what the left does. Her real problem was.

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She was pro the masking of children and pushing vaccines for kids under five long past when people like Dr. Marty McCary of Johns Hopkins were writing full op-eds in the Wall Street Journal opposing these things. Doctors like Vinay Prasad, who just got tapped to join the administration, were jumping up and down about the myocarditis that we were seeing in young men.

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And she was still advocating that it be pushed. So that's why this woman should not have been the Surgeon General pick and why I personally have nothing against her, but I'm glad she's gone. She's going to work for Bobby Kennedy in some way, HHS, whatever. Okay, so now he taps Casey Means, which I was like, that's amazing. I'm thrilled. I love Casey Means. She's at the heart of Maha.

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She's like one of the creators of Maha. She's one of these functional medicine gals, kind of like the Dr. Mark Hyman mold. He was on recently, if the audience remembers him. who really thinks we've been too focused on these band-aids we put as temporary fixes on chronic illnesses as opposed to, yes, curing them, but stopping them as opposed to stopping them in the first place.

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There's this whole group of functional medicine doctors that's much more interested in looking at how chronic disease is everywhere and trying to change that about our society so we don't have to focus on cures and treatments, but just wellness efforts. Does this patient have some sort of Lyme disease that's gone untreated? Is this person living in a mold-infested home?

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Go to firecracker.farm right now and use the code MK at checkout for a special discount. That's firecracker.farm, code MK. Get some hot salt before it's all gone. You'll thank me. Great to see you guys.

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Does this person have some sort of autoimmune condition that we need to take a look at? Are they swimming in a toxic stew that we could lower by removing some of the preservative-laden food or ultra-processed food or seed oils that are ubiquitous in their environment? How can we remind people not to microwave plastic and then eat out of it? Things like that, but there are a lot of them.

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that can increase your wellness load. And people like Dr. Casey Means are very focused on that, looking at how we grow, the soil that we grow our agriculture in, and making sure that these chemicals aren't all over our fruits and vegetables that we give to our kids that we think is, quote, healthy, right? That we're not eating fish that's laden with mercury. I could keep going.

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Like drinking water contaminated with fluoride and chlorine. That's Casey Means's reason to live right now. I was going to do French, but I can't.

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And so she tells this story very movingly about how she was, I think she, she might've been number one, or she was definitely at the top of her Stanford undergrad class at the very top Stanford undergrad, which is not easy, not easy to get into Stanford, nevermind finish at the top. Then she goes to Stanford medical school, which is also not easy and finishes at the top there.

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Then she gets a prestigious ear, nose and throat surgical residency at the University of Oregon. And so she goes up there and is crushing it in her residency. She is within one year of finishing the residency and doing very well. And she says, I cannot do this one minute longer. There was a woman who came in. Casey had to operate on her.

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She had been in for repeated operations for the same problem, if memory serves, and Casey said to herself, what are we doing? We're not helping. We're just churning and burning the same, quote, fixes on these patients and then spitting them back out into a process where they will not be educated, helped, nothing around them will change. And she found it too disheartening to continue.

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And she went in to her attending physician and said, I'm leaving. I'm leaving the program. He begged her not to. This is in her book and she's given interviews about it. He begged her not to and she said, I can't do this. So she left and she started... her own practice and to get more into functional medicine and started thinking about the things that would ultimately wind up in the book.

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Good energy would be at the center of the Maha movement. Her brother, Callie was going through his own evolution and realizations, having worked for Coca-Cola and came out hard as almost like a whistleblower against what companies like that are doing to us with the sugar and the food supply and the snap program and so on. And they've become very important and essential to,

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Oh, my God. So notwithstanding all that, like the trade, we're going to get to all of it. But we have to start with what just happened over the past 62 minutes on The View. And it's not even one of my wacky view clips for you where we just make fun of Sonny or Joy. I mean, we love those, but this is like legit Joe Biden. who's on, well, you guys will tell me what he's doing here.

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Americans, especially when it comes to Maha. Great. So why is she getting mercilessly attacked right now by some within the Maha movement and by Laura Loomer, who I don't know if she's in, if she considers herself Maha. And I really don't dismiss Laura Loomer because people call her a conspiracy theorist. She's been right about a lot. Okay.

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So people need to know that because her, her critics just dismiss her as like some conspiracy theorist. She's been right about a lot. And I've watched it myself on this program. Cause I came to her very open-minded. Is she conspiracy theorist? We were all supposedly conspiracy theorists. So what's the story? She's really taking aim at Casey. And I have to say on this one, I really disagree.

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I disagree strongly because I'm just going to tell you some of the allegations. Okay. Um, she said, hold on, give me a little piece of paper because I wrote, write this stuff down. Okay. She said that Casey means her dad wrote a pro trans children's book back in 2020. Well, he did write a book that was about like a weird, an odd duckling or goose and, um, how it wound up.

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It basically wound up being gay. And in the opening to the book, he does say that that this is, um, it's about Felix and unique bird.

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And he says, um, it's a story for children and adults alike, uh, and says it's, it's for, I'm trying to find the exact quote, but it's about, Oh, coming of age is challenging for most children, but it can be especially tough for those grappling with their gender and sexual identities, gender. So he mentions it and the, but I've looked at the book, at least what I can find.

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If it, I have like four pages, um, And it's really about a gay goose. Okay. It's like, it's not really about the trans issue, even though they mentioned gender.

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As a gay goose. Okay. Whatever. By the way, it's her father. It's not her. Like, I don't. Okay. So like if she had written this, maybe it would lead to a follow-up question at the hearings. Like, what, what do you think about this? children grappling with their gender identities. That's really the question, isn't it?

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What does Casey Means think about children wrestling with their gender identities? And I can tell you something, guys, because I know Casey Means. I know her from the many times I've had her on this program and I've talked to her off this program. She is where I am. on this. She is not pro the transing of children at all. Her brother Callie right now is out there calling it demonic.

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They're very close. She hasn't spoken to it as far as I know publicly because no one's asked her. Everybody's much more focused on functional health. But she is not going to be in any way, shape, or form supportive of puberty blockers for minors, cross-sex hormones for minors, or surgeries for minors.

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And if somehow I am proven wrong and I won't be, I will personally lobby the president to fire her. I will personally lobby the president, which I'm not going to have to because I've spoken to her. I know this is firsthand reporting how she feels about it. OK, so that's that. That's number one. Then she points out, Loomer does, that she never completed her residency. That is true.

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I just gave you the context. She points out she does not even have an active medical license in Oregon. That's true because she decided to stop practicing medicine a couple of years into her private practice and to do – she has this company now that offers like – all day glucose monitoring and explains to people how to read their blood levels when they get their lab tests back and so on.

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It just sort of helps more millions as opposed to like individuals. And I can speak to this as a lawyer, I passed the bar in New York, in Illinois and in Massachusetts. OK, so I was admitted in all those states. I practiced at length in New York state, in Chicago, in Washington, D.C., for that matter.

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And I'll tell you what Mark Halperin says. He's on some sort of a rehabilitation tour. Okay. Anyway, he goes onto the view and it wasn't rehabilitative at all here. Okay. Let's start with, I guess, 37. Is that the one we love the best, Steve? You pick 35, 35.

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And I wound up going dormant on all of my law licenses many years into joining journalism full time. because A, it costs money and B, it's a lot of continuing legal education. And in her case, medical education, a lot. It's demanding, there's a lot of bar fees, there are pains in the ass to maintain. And if you're really not gonna be practicing, it's pointless to do it.

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She's still a doctor, but she just chose not to stay licensed so that she could actually practice medicine right now. she could get that license back like that, right? So it's like, and not for nothing, but all the continuing medical education, half of it is pushed by big pharma, more than half probably.

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So it's like, what, we're upset she wouldn't go right back into the system that is corrupting our doctors that we're complaining about, that actually happens to be her life mission now to combat? It makes no sense. So there's all that. I think that's basically it. I've, I've, I've hit the biggest things. Laura's upset too, that she's a little like out there in some of her spiritual practices.

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Um, she pulled up her newsletter. Casey means is where she said, um, She talked about how these are the things I did to try to tap into the mystical side of evolving my consciousness and being ready for partnership, like looking for a man, which she did find and she got married. Here are a few. She said, I don't necessarily recommend these, but these were part of my journey.

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I set up a small meditation shrine in my house. I prayed to photos of my ancestors asking for support on my journey. Uh, I went to weekly group meditations and spiritual lectures in order to tune in with the spirit. I work with a spiritual medium who helped me try to connect with my spirit guides for support and guidance.

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I, my therapist who helped me get out of my first marriage wanted me to be doing all this stuff. Like didn't speak to me personally, but like this is actually like, uh, an established lane for people who are struggling, especially in relationships. I hiked alone and talked literally out loud to the trees, letting them know I was ready for partnership.

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I pursued visualization techniques that helped me see my visions for the future. I did plant medicine experiences with trusted guides and wrote extensively about my experience and insights. And she's admitted, and she said in her book, she did psychedelics which does have a way of making people feel more connected with Mother Earth and the universe, whatever. All that's part of her journey.

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She's been very open about it. So she's got a little Eastern medicine in there, but she's very Western medicine too and sees all of its problems, all of its problems. And then you got the hardcore anti-vaxxers who want her to come out and condemn the fact that anyone is still taking the COVID vaccine. I have news for those people. She would be totally unconfirmable, totally unconfirmable.

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He cannot choose somebody who feels that way as controversial as most of us find the vaccine at this point. So that's my take on her. I think she is the antidote. to most of the problems we all see right now in the medical field, in the medical industrial complex. She and her brother, Callie, are warriors for revolution within our healthcare system.

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Plus a wild and awesome hearing on Capitol Hill yesterday. Brandon Gill is my hero. Remember this guy who went after the head of NPR with her blonde hair and her weird affect? This obvious rich, white Connecticut woman riddled with white guilt for her enormous privilege growing up in Connecticut, and she...

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And I am 110% behind both of them, including Casey Means for Surgeon General.

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If you're spiritual, I know a lot of people who are very spiritual, and they do things like this. The whole push is to get more in touch with nature, literally to walk barefoot. That whole touch grass thing is actual. It's real. It's called grounding. It's supposed to, according to some. like the nonstop EMFs and radio frequencies that are everywhere.

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I don't know whether any of that's true, but I have seen support for it from doctors I trust who are more Western medicine based. In any event, just being, even if you don't believe it counteracts, you know, EMF, It's of course good for you to go outside to smell the air, to see the sunlight, to take in some vitamin D. Like that's kind of what she said.

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She writes in her book about it when her mom died of pancreatic cancer. And she had spent the last, you know, weeks and months with her, how deeply traumatic it was and how angry it made her at the healthcare system.

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This was a couple of years after she left the residency because the mother had all the signs that people listening to this may be experiencing right now or the family member where it was like, Oh, your blood pressure is a little high. Why don't you go on, you know, Cristor or some other statin? Okay, no problem. Oh, you know, you're a little overweight. And today they say go on a Zempik, right?

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Which wasn't around when she was here. Oh, you've got pre-diabetes, but it's nothing to worry about. You know, we can manage it with these medicines. And then of course it turns into full diabetes. And now you're actually really in trouble and in danger. And ultimately her mom, who'd been on this downward path on her health, And it's not that the doctors didn't care about her.

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It's that the whole system is set up to do this, to just medicalize, drug, respond with, like, what's the word? Just with pharmacy, just respond with pharmacy options. Ultimately, she gets pancreatic cancer in her, I think, young 70s. And Casey writes about how when they buried her, they chose to bury her not in a casket,

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like this is a thing you can do at certain cemeteries where like, that's what her mom wanted to be like given to have your body actually given back to the earth, like true ashes to ashes, dust to dust and how it's like, you know, like that, your remains could actually lead to the growth of something beautiful on this earth at some point. I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

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I applaud having somebody in a position to be a spokesperson. She's not setting, you know, health policy. That's Bobby Kennedy. That's going to be Jade Bhattacharya. It's really the spokesperson for public health. believing in that kind of thing and understanding medicine doesn't have to be totally limited to what comes out of a needle.

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He could barely spit it out. And he threw that one out there too. My goodness. He and Obama are two peas in a pod on this. Sexism and racism, if you didn't vote for her. That's obviously what she thinks too. But the nerve of this guy of all people to come out and say that's why she lost...

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Okay, so she doesn't have the medical license. It's not like it got pulled from her, etc. This is not an issue. She's not going to be practicing medicine as Surgeon General. The whole point is, are you qualified to talk about the public health system? And she's beyond qualified. And not for nothing, but the last Surgeon General...

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Vivek Murthy under Obama and then resurrected again under Joe Biden had perfect credentials. He was double Harvard. He had worked for all the right public service groups trying to help all these kids around the world with AIDS and HIV and all the things that the left would completely praise. And what did he do as Surgeon General?

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He shoved those vaccines down the throats of the American people and their children. He, just like the first woman Trump nominated, but even worse, pushed masking at every turn, including on children. He downplayed the risk of myocarditis to teenagers being forced to take their seventh booster. I don't care about his perfect credentials.

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I would take Casey means over that guy every day of the week. And there's nothing wrong with her. I mean, honestly, like everything that's been raised about her gives me zero pause.

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Exactly right. And without Casey, I don't even know if you would have had RFKJ and his endorsement of Trump and so on. All right, we're going to take a pause, take a break. We'll be right back. The human body is incredible, capable of repair and growth that amazes scientists, even in 2025. But as the years pass, natural healing and building processes slow down.

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I'm feeling a little emotional. It's a big deal. Gosh, it's a big deal. It's a big deal for the world's 1.4 billion Catholics. And just seeing the emotion in Rome is quite something. Oh, there's some priests doing the sign of the cross. Everyone's holding their arms up to the ceiling or to the sky in thanks and celebration. It's big.

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I mean, it's big that the leader of the Catholic Church can absolutely change the direction of the church in ways, you know, for the better and for the worse. And Pope Francis was controversial. You know, the truly like deeply religious observant Catholics were split on him. because he was so socially quote progressive.

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Um, but I will tell you this, I I've said this story, but just the long version is short version is like two years ago. I S I was having sort of a crisis of faith, just wondering like, why do I have to deal with the middleman? We're like, why, you know, like our evangelical friends, they don't, there's no middleman, you know, like that's, this is like a Christian, a uniquely Catholic thing.

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And, um, I was thinking about wandering outside of the Catholic church. So I wandered over to a Presbyterian service thinking they're looser. Maybe this is like the place for me where I don't, I don't know. I'll have to investigate. The whole homily was about transing children and how it's good and we needed to support it. I'm like, and I'm out.

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The thing about the Catholic church, even under Pope Francis, who was like the most progressive Pope we've had in my lifetime is is they hold the line on the core things that matter to most Catholics, whether it's abortion or transing children. They're not big on gay marriage, something I have attended and support for my friends, but I understand the controversy around it. So

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There's a very firm, strict moral code. And I have to say, I find that very attractive. I like that. I don't like wishy-washiness like you get if you're a Presbyterian. Forgive me. My husband's a Presbyterian. My Presbyterian friends, you know what I'm trying to say. In any event, here they are cheering outside. And it's amazing, guys. Now, this is a live feed.

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Look at the thousands who have poured into St. Peter's Square now that we know a new pope is about to be announced. We don't know who it is. But I don't know. Are you guys Catholic? Anybody out there Catholic on my panel?

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Wait, now that you say that, I went Episcopal. I wrongly ripped the Presbyterians. It was the Episcopalians that did the homily on the trans kids. Yeah. Sorry. Forgive me.

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You got to give a shout out to the Jews here who just one day of atonement. That's it. One day a year, just private. It can be done like you go to temple, but it's kind of between you and your God. That's it. A whole year of sin and sinning forgiven. It's like you're good.

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Yeah, we were there two years ago, and we went on the full tour. We went into the Sistine Chapel. Yeah. We had like sort of the VIP tour and it was breathtaking. It was absolutely stunningly breathtaking. And if you don't feel moved, whatever your religion, you don't have a heart. I mean, it's like, hello, there's Michelangelo on the ceiling.

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And, you know, think about what it took for him to create these magnificent works in this magnificent place that's so holy and so profound. And, you know, from which... billions of lives will be affected potentially, right? The edicts that come out of the church. And again, I don't pretend they don't have a very...

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I don't know what the word is, dark history in more recent years when it comes to the child sex abuse scandal, for which they really have never fully, fully like atoned or taken full responsibility. You know, there were so many years of passing the trash. It was awful. But I also don't think that's the real legacy of my church and what they stand for.

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And I think to Holmes's point, you know, we can forgive our church leaders and how they they behaved the same way God forgives us. I mean, we have to dig deep to do it. And there are kids today still walking around with those scars. But look, just like you don't focus on like your spouse's worst chapter or your kid's worst chapter. That's that's how I feel about the Catholic Church.

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President Trump weighed in. He's probably disappointed it wasn't him or Marco Rubio. He said, I saw the smoke, but I haven't seen the pope. He said on his way out of the White House just moments ago. Here's Buck Sexton weighing in. Yes, there's white smoke from the Vatican. But how long before a Biden appointed judge reverses the conclave's decision? Very good. Well, we'll see.

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As soon as we have news from the Vatican, we will go there and we will bring you the announcement. Okay. In the meantime, I've got to bring you this. We were on the subject of public health. This is not leading the news on any broadcast, but we have got to talk about what happened over at this lab underneath the HHS umbrella.

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at the Fort Detrick Integrated Research Facility, that's the name of the lab, where they do the riskiest research on our most deadly infectious diseases, COVID, Ebola, all the worst stuff, okay? You wanna work in there, you have to wear the full head-to-toe hazmat suit.

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And, you know, it's like a clean room, basically, you know, where you touch anything with your bare body and you're seriously in danger of dying. This whole situation I'm about to walk you through reminds me of this scene from the great movie Outbreak starring Dustin Hoffman, Rene Russo, and Kevin Spacey, who worked in these labs.

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And then when there was this weird outbreak of this disease, thanks to this monkey, they were working tirelessly to try to figure out, you know, what it was and could they come up with a vaccine? And here's, I'm going to show you the following scene for a reason. Watch.

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Okay, I'm going to go backward. Last week, I think, April 30th, Wired magazine, which is so far left, drops the story. A research facility within the U.S. National Institutes of Health that is tasked with studying Ebola and other deadly infectious diseases has been instructed by the Trump administration's Department of Health and Human Services to stop research activities.

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The research pause is the latest disruption to federal science agencies after HHS Secretary Robert Kennedy announced at the end of March that 10,000 people across the vast federal health agency would lose their jobs, including those at the National Institutes of Health, FDA, and CDC.

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So Wired is basically like, they just shut down one of our most important labs studying these deadly infectious diseases, and it's because of Doge and that effort Trump. Okay. plot twist, enter Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, who you know is now running NIH, who says, you're not going to believe this.

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He comes out and says, two weeks ago, I ordered all work to halt at a high biosecurity risk NIH lab located in Frederick, Maryland. I did this because of a serious incident involving biosafety that had occurred in early March, but which did not cross my desk until weeks later.

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It turns out that a contractor at the lab had deliberately cut a hole in a bio containment suit over a personal dispute with a coworker.

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Wait, and then the plot thickens more. Fox News reports, according to an HHS official who was willing to speak on the matter under the condition of anonymity, the pause stemmed from a lover spat between researchers at the facility, which resulted in one of the individuals poking holes in the other's personal protective equipment.

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And then was willing to send this person out to your point, like to wander around the world, potentially having contracted this disease. They say the individual has since been fired. But again, I think you're right there. I think we should be looking at criminal charges. I think it's that's life in prison. Yeah, it really does sound like attempted murder. Yeah.

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And an ongoing investigation, says Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, revealed a pattern. Oh, wait, let's go back to the pope. He's coming out. It's an American pope, you guys. Unbelievable. Robert Francis Prevost, who's going to go as Pope Leon XIV. And here's what CBS News wrote up about him.

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Prior to him being selected, of the 266 popes who have led the Catholic Church, not one of them has been from the U.S. While the relative youth of the nation means fewer than 20 of those men served after the U.S. Declaration of Independence, one prominent U.S. bishop has a possible explanation for the lack of an American leader of the world's Catholics up until now.

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Robert Barron, he's been on the show, bishop of the Diocese of Minnesota, was appointed less than a week ago by President Trump to the new White House Commission on Religious Liberty. However, today he's at the Vatican. Hold on, let's get to the part about this guy. Barron has spent days speaking with the Cardinals, including the 133 electors tasked with electing the new Pope.

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He had to be under a certain age in order to vote. Okay, where does he say this guy? He's going through, he's handicapping all of the Americans. Okay, now he gets to Prevost. One American name has popped up repeatedly amid the gossip over leading contenders, Cardinal Robert Prevost.

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He is undoubtedly qualified as the only clear qualifications for the role of pontiff are that they be male and Catholic. But emerging on top with the necessary backing of just over two thirds of the voting cardinal electors will require far more than just eligibility. Originally from Chicago, Prevost is the head of the church's Dicastery for bishops.

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The powerful position means he oversees the selection of new bishops. For any cardinal electors who may be turned off by his American nationality, it's not his only one. He's a dual citizen. He's also a citizen of Peru, where he served for many years. He's seen overall as a centrist on some key social issues. Leo. He's going by Leo. Leo the 14th.

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Well, Prevost is seen overall as a centrist on some key social issues. He is viewed as progressive. He has long embraced marginalized groups, a lot like Francis, who championed migrants and the poor. Well, I mean, that's kind of what the Catholic Church does. But also, like Pope Francis, the Illinois native opposes ordaining women as deacons. I mean, again.

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So on that point, he's seen as conservative on church doctrine. All right, well, that didn't tell us much. That was a lot of work for very little return. But I can't believe it. Pope Leo XIV, and he's an American. It's never happened before, guys.

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Well, I can't wait to hear what this means. I'm not sure about that write-up I just read. Being pro-poor and pro-migrant is kind of right on brand, whether you're a conservative or a progressive pope. I mean, they all are. You're not going to get somebody who's anti-poor people or migrants. That's just not the Catholic church.

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Yeah. Like, sorry, that's not how it's going to go. And you're definitely not going to find many who want female priests or popes. So, okay. We need to learn more to figure out more about who this guy is. Chicago. How about that? Chicago for the W you guys by way of Peru.

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Oh, they asked him about that. They asked him about that moment. Watch this, South 36.

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That's amazing. Well, I mean, I'm sad that our discussion about the lab attack was shortened, but I'm thrilled we have a new Pope. This is big news for worldwide Catholics. And as we learn more... We'll get it. We're actually trying to get some friends from the Catholic channel to phone in so they can tell us a thing or two about the new Pope. Very important. And when we do, we'll go there.

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But in the meantime, I'm going to continue forward with the news, which we're probably better at. Let's face it. I'm way better at it. I've got you covered. If you want to go deep on the Pope. Okay, let's move on. Okay, I mentioned at the top of the show there was this hearing yesterday. It was like by the Doge subcommittee looking into men who play in women's sports.

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And look, they've had a lot of these kinds of hearings, but this one stood out because of Brandon Gill. Star. Rising star in the Republican Party. I think he's only 31 years old. He's from Texas. Fun fact, he's married to Dinesh D'Souza's daughter, which is so cool. Dinesh and I go way back. And... He should be the only one doing questioning. I mean, it's really at that level. He's so effective.

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So he gets this guy who is such a jerk of USA fencing, Damian Lefeld, L-E-H-F-E-L-D-T, in front of him yesterday, who was one of the witnesses called to testify. And we've been covering the story of this young woman who she walked out. She refused to fence a man in her championship. She had to sacrifice the potential of the medal. No one, no one cared.

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Her name was, I think it was Stephanie Turner. Yeah. Or she got up and she was like, I'm not doing this. It was just this past March. Um, this guy, zero empathy for the Stephanie Turner's of the world. In fact, he's the reason that she and others like her are having to go through this and sacrifice their medals.

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He is all in on letting men play in women's sports and very against even parents who raise an objection based on the safety of their daughters. Well, Brandon Gill wasn't having it. Okay. Let's start with, um, Yeah, Sat 5.

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Well, so Duncan, you heard the accusation there. He denied it. But what we're being told is that this guy, again, he's denying it sort of, but he wrote, The plaintiff email of I'm pulling my daughter and boys shouldn't complain or compete against girls. And you're putting the needs of one percent above the needs of 50 percent speaks volumes. You're a man defending men's rights. Signed, Dorothy.

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You know, it's like, oh, wait, here it is in sat nine. OK, this just so that he could write back his like, screw you, Dorothy. The only wizard you're going to be dealing with is the KKK wizard response just to make himself look like a tough guy. Here he is confirming that this whole thing was fake sat nine.

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Reclaiming my time. Yeah, here it is. He's got it right here. He posted, send me anonymous messages. And the question is, are you okay with cis females being at a disadvantage? And again, I mean, he probably posted that question to himself again. And he responds, yeah, in big letters. Yeah, he's fine. He doesn't, the guy doesn't give a shit. And by the way, he wasn't disavowing that position.

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Yesterday, he was wiggling on his most smarmy, like articulations of it, but he was not disavowing his position that men should be playing against women. I'll give you one more. Um, slot seven.

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Yes, he goes right to, like, even your lie to me, we all know he has an opinion and that he's totally fine with it. But Gil accepts his lie and then exposes how absurd the lie position is.

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This will not surprise any of you. Watch this last one and then I'll give it to you, Smug. Side eight.

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Okay. Is it any wonder that this poor girl, Stephanie Turner, was faced with this situation? Let's run the video of her at this USA Fencing event, March of 2025. She handled it very gracefully. She saw that it was a male. Can we run the video?

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she saw that it was male and she got up and said, no, she said, I mean, you don't know disrespect, but you are a male and I'm not, I'm not going to compete against you. Here she was giving it all up. Look at this. This woman trained countless hours over the course of her life, years and years of practice and dedication and other opportunities missed. And it all came down to this.

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And she chose not to fence because her opponent was a male, was a male. And this guy was Damian Leffeld, who is the head of USA Fencing, is to blame, as are all the board members of USA Fencing who are allowing this. All we need is two-thirds of them to fire this guy, and we might be able to start anew. But from what I'm gleaning, They all need to be fired too.

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Anybody that would leave this absolute moron in charge of this organization as public as he's been all over social media with these positions, they're complicit. They share the ideology, that seems very clear. And it took this young activist

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You know, this young woman, an act of courage, Stephanie Turner, to really turn our attention to what was happening in this, you know, relatively obscure sport. It's very important to those who do it, but it's not like NFL football. We don't focus on fencing that much, but it's just as wrong.

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No, I agree. I agree because they're really, they don't care about women's rights at all. They want men to be in a position to hurt them. Like who would back that other than someone who has deep loathing of women. And you know, they're not alone. This, this was, Oh my God, this is infuriating. The women's law center, which do not, do not be fooled by the name.

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Um, they decide this woman, Fatima gross or gas graves, who was there, um, She is the president of the National Women's Law Center Action Fund and the co-founder of Time's Up.

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Yeah. So her foundation bio says she's an attorney who has spent her career fighting to advance the opportunities for women and girls. She issued a blistering statement after Trump's executive order keeping men out of women's sports, which was a thing of beauty. And she goes on as follows.

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This executive order is another attempt to bully trans people, including children, and misuse the government to enforce sexist gender roles. Sexist gender roles? What are you saying? It's biological roles. That's what we're talking about.

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President Trump's actions are cruel, blatant attempts to eviscerate safe, affirming, and equitable schools, a right that every student deserves, including transgender youth. How is this pro-woman? You are the CEO of the National Women's Law Center. And all she gives a damn about is the men pretending to be us.

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So that moron who I just read from, she gave testimony at this event yesterday and they asked her, somebody asked her about Peyton McNabb, who was also there. The girl who, when she was 17, suffered brain damage after the fall was spiked so hard. Yeah, exactly. So this woman who I just read from, Women's Law Center, was asked about Peyton McNabb and watch this.

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We should also get rid of baskets in basketball. Yep. I mean, that's literally, this woman is an idiot. An idiot. Is it any wonder, like, Time's Up rejected the claims of Tara Reid against Joe Biden, right? Like, you've got people like that running these organizations. It's no wonder they're just absolutely stupid, partisan hacks.

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Like, this is the woman that they just made a statue of in Times Square. It's literally that woman. I'm sorry, but that's her. Like, it's overweight-

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had sent out all those wacky tweets about wanting to pay reparations and reading the case for reparations. And then he got to her. She's like, I never read that book. Really? Then why did you tweet? You tweet, you tweeted that you did. I don't remember ever doing that. You tweeted it. I took the whole day off to read a book on reparations, this book anyway. He's back.

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the world has a new pope. Well, technically, the Catholic Church has a new pope, an American, believe it or not, for the first time in history. Cardinal Robert Francis Prevost of Chicago will now be known as Pope Leo XIV. From what we know so far, although American, Pope Leo spent most of his life outside of the U.S., including two decades in Peru.

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There, he became a bishop and a naturalized citizen. According to the New York Times, Leo speaks Italiano and also Spanish, but not English. What? It is unclear where he will stand on progressive issues like same-sex couples, transgender Catholics, among other things. In his opening remarks, Pope Leo called for the need to build bridges. Here to discuss this historic moment is Gus Lloyd.

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He is a lifelong Catholic and host of Seize the Day on SiriusXM Catholic Channel. Gus, welcome. So what do we know about this new pope?

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Okay, I am seeing some chatter online. He had a Twitter account as a Cardinal, you know, prior to this momentous elevation. And he recently, on February 3rd, tweeted something at J.D. Vance. J.D.

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Vance had in January said something like, look, the way you're supposed to do life is you love your family, your God, your community, and then your world, you know, your country, and then your world lasts, sort of. And this now Pope tweeted, J.D. Vance is wrong. Jesus doesn't ask us to rank our love for others. He was actually tweeting an article that had that headline, but he adopted it.

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So I got to tell you, Gus, this concerns me a little. Your thoughts?

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Well, that he's adding J.D. Vance, like he's taking on J.D. Vance about something J.D. said on the order in which you love people and that the, you know, sort of end community would be placed last after one's family and one's God and one's country. Like that's that's something that you could argue is true, even in scripture. And it's certainly true within the Republican Party.

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What was so amazing about it, you guys, is that so here she's like, I am not going to make the same mistake twice. You know, I already fucked up Kamala Harris's run for the office and I am not going to do anything to undermine this guy. So I'm just going to give him the answer in the question.

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There's, um, we're getting more. Okay. Uh, John Favreau, who worked for Obama tweets out an American Pope who fights with JD Vans on Twitter. I am so in, and they have, um, a repost by this guy of somebody else who posted as Trump and Bukele use the oval to, uh, advance. I think the it's a emoji, the feds illicit deportation of a U S resident once upon an undocked Salvadoran himself.

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Now DC, I can't read this. Do you not see the suffering? Is your conscience not disturbed? How can you stay quiet? So this guy seems right in line with Pope Francis from what I'm reading here, Gus, Very anti the Trump vans, immigration policies and, you know, anti wall, notwithstanding the one around the Vatican, et cetera.

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Okay, well, let's focus on the fact that he's an American. And I guess that's a plus. It's kind of exciting. Yeah, very exciting. And we'll give him a chance and see what he does as Pope and how he sees church doctrine. Gus Lloyd, thank you.

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Like, you know, and so she declined to distinguish any of her policies from all the ones that you did so successfully. What's your reaction to that? Right. So she's trying to give him the softball like that. And then he has no idea what she has said. Like in his defense, it was kind of incomprehensible.

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The fellas are still here. Gus actually knew what he was talking about. He was like citing, you know, church doctrine. But me, I remain concerned. Anyone else?

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My kids are going to get the college fund, not some randos in Libya.

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It's just a Catholic school boy. All right, guys. That was the weirdest episode we've ever done together. I appreciate you guys being here for it. I hope to see you soon. Lots of love, guys. Wow. Okay. What a day here on The Megyn Kelly Show. We did the Pope. We did the weird lab leak. Casey means Joe Biden incomprehensible. There was a lot in today's show, but it was just bizarre.

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Thanks for bearing with us, and we'll do it all over again tomorrow. tomorrow with Link Lauren, who's launching his show as part of the MK Media Podcast Network. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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But this is not the way to set Joe Biden up for success because he couldn't spin it quite the way she could. And by the way, for the listening audience, she read the entire question. These women are dopes. They can't come up with their own thoughtful question. They can't ad-lib something. She's just reading with some producer. And I know this personally. I've been on The View many times.

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They give you the questions in advance as the guest. I guarantee you they gave those questions to Joe Biden, too. In any event, what a joke, right? Like... And so none of it made sense. The premise of the question was false. Like she was giving Kamala the chance to differentiate herself from all the successful policies that Joe Biden had.

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And then his answer, which is, I don't think people used her answer in a way that represented what she really meant, which was, I think what you just said, something about how successful I was in it.

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He got the epinephrine shot. Yeah, no, you're exactly right. That was an amazing. They weaponized it. You mean they reacted to the thing she said and said, gee, that's going to hurt her. She should differentiate herself because he is very unpopular weaponizers.

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And he took to task the villain who heads up USA fencing. I mean, what? Why are we spending time on USA fencing? Because it's headed by a villain who is making decisions that are actively hurting young women. And all we needed was to get this cretin in front of people like Brandon Gill, Marjorie Taylor Greene, and Nancy Mace, all three of whom disemboweled this man. I'm sorry. It was awesome.

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We got white smoke coming out of the Sistine Chapel chimney signaling a new pope has been elected to lead the Catholic Church. Here on Sirius XM, we have firsthand access to data because we are in tight with the Catholics. We know Cardinal Dolan. We know a lot of people around him. I'm going to ask my team to go check out our sources and find out.

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whether we have infiltrated the Sistine Chapel and we can give you an advance word.

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To me, it's the basic thing I'm looking for as a Catholic is are we going to double down on left wing progressivism in the pope like we had with Francis or we're going to go more traditional with, you know, an actual conservative pope who's going to uphold Catherine doctrine in the way that we're used to maybe bring back the Latin mass, get right with the messaging when it comes to a wall and immigration, you know, things like that.

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Let's find out. We're going to find out very soon. It's exciting. Maybe we'll get you we'll get you a picture of the white smoke momentarily. But let's go back to white white man, old white man, Joe Biden. Here he is. Let's see if he's doing any better on his rambling. OK, let's check in and saw 37.

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So Ashbrook touched on it. Smug, you just nailed it. Here's what Halperin said earlier this morning on his YouTube show, Two-Way. Watch.

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Governor Newsom insisting last week to next up host Mark Halperin that he's not yet made any decisions on 2028.

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The polls showing California voters are sharply divided over Mr. Newsom based on their party ID. 70% of Democrats approve of his performance. Just 11% of Republicans say the same. And that'll do it for your AM Update. I'm Megyn Kelly. Join me back here for The Megyn Kelly Show, live on SiriusXM Triumph Channel, 111 at noon east, on youtube.com slash Megyn Kelly, and on all podcast platforms.

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No, I think it was the right decision. Former President Biden hitting the interview circuit this week, reflecting on his term in office and offering thoughts on the current administration. Hint, he's against it.

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Later today, President Biden set to appear on ABC's The View along with Dr. Jill Biden. Now a private citizen, Mr. Biden embracing a more open relationship with the press, appearing for two interviews this week alone, including a Wednesday sit-down with the BBC. The former president asked about the timing of his withdrawal from the 2024 race.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Thursday, May 8th, 2025, and this is your AM Update.

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A November report from the New York Post revealing the Biden team's internal polling at the time he dropped out showed then-candidate Trump on track to win 400 electoral votes in a would-be landslide loss for Mr. Biden.

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President Biden's decision to exit the race on July 21st, triggering a $200 million fundraising surge for the Harris campaign in just one week, eventually ballooning into a $2 billion war chest. With just 106 days to build a full presidential campaign, Ms. Harris drawing support from celebrity heavyweights like Oprah, Beyonce, Taylor Swift, and the Obamas, among dozens of others.

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Despite the star-studded backing and unprecedented fundraising, Ms. Harris became the first Democratic nominee in two decades to lose both the popular and the electoral vote. President Biden also criticizing the Trump administration's effort to negotiate an end to Russia's war on Ukraine.

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Russian troops began amassing forces along the Ukraine border in spring of 2021. In the months leading up to the full-scale invasion, the Biden administration pursuing a series of diplomatic efforts to avert war, including a December 2021 virtual summit between President Biden and Russian President Vladimir Putin. The Biden White House warning of severe economic consequences should Russia proceed.

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But in January 2022, President Biden seemed to telegraph a green light to Mr. Putin during a press conference with this infamous remark.

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Vice President J.D. Vance speaking candidly about how Russians are holding up peace negotiations. The Wall Street Journal reports the U.S. is ramping up its spying efforts on Greenland. A surge in general switcheroo. And a new poll shows Californians believe Governor Gavin Newsom is more focused on national ambitions than he is on running their state.

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The invasion began about a month later. Throughout his presidency, Mr. Biden maintained a policy of isolating Russia on the world stage, the Trump administration accusing the Biden team of fueling a prolonged and aimless conflict, funding what they call a perpetual meat grinder with no clear path to victory. Vice President J.D. Vance on Wednesday at the Munich Security Conference in D.C.

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providing an update on peace negotiations. Following months of back and forth, The VP revealing the Russians are now asking for too much to end this war.

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U.S. officials devoting tremendous amounts of time and resources toward bringing the war to an end. President Trump recently saying both sides are closer than ever to a settlement. Mr. Vance saying the next step is direct engagement between the two.

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The vice president expressing frustration with both sides for focusing on historical grievances rather than looking forward to how a deal could be reached. On the economic front this weekend, Treasury Secretary Scott Besson and U.S. Trade Representative Jameson Greer set to meet with Chinese officials in Switzerland for the first time, kicking off trade negotiations.

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Vice President Vance setting the tone ahead of the meeting.

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Mr. Vance going on to say the old ways of doing business with the U.S. are over. On Tuesday, President Trump announcing the conclusion of his successful military campaign against the Houthi rebel group in Yemen.

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The campaign waged under Defense Secretary Hegseth in response to months of sustained Houthi attacks on international vessels operating in the Red Sea, an important shipping route connecting the Mediterranean Sea to the Indian Ocean. Secretary of State Marco Rubio saying the Houthis launched dozens of attacks against U.S.

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military ships, as well as commercial vessels, while the Biden administration had favored limited case-by-case responses. The Trump administration launching a sustained offensive, wave after wave of strikes, killing hundreds and significantly degrading Houthi military capabilities. President Trump telling reporters from the Oval, the Houthis have had enough.

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Under the terms of the agreement, both sides agreed to halt attacks against one another. Special Envoy Steve Witkoff, who's turning out to be the Waldo of this administration, he's everywhere, led negotiations for the U.S. with assistance from the Omani Foreign Ministry. Coming up, The Wall Street Journal reporting anonymous sources say the U.S. is ramping up its spy efforts against Greenland.

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And a new poll shows most California voters believe Governor Gavin Newsom is more focused on his national ambitions than the problems at home. Also, big news about Mr. Trump's chosen Surgeon General. Tax day may have passed, but for millions of Americans, the real trouble is just beginning.

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Call 1-800-958-1000 or visit tnusa.com slash Megan. You may have missed April 15th, but you haven't run out of options. Let Tax Network USA help before the IRS makes the next move. big and important switcheroo on the Surgeon General nomination. President Trump announcing on Truth Social that he is replacing his nominee, Jeanette Neshawat, with a star of the Maha movement, Dr. Casey Means.

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Neshawat, the sister-in-law of now-ousted National Security Advisor Mike Walsh, had an odd background for this position. A graduate of a Caribbean medical school who ran CityMD, Neshawat was a big proponent during the pandemic of masking children, and of getting kids under the age of 12 vaxxed, all while she downplayed the risk of myocarditis in kids who get the vaccine.

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In October 2021, she said the risks for kids getting the COVID jab are extremely low. Around that same time, she called for more masking, just as Dr. Marty McCary of Johns Hopkins, now Mr. Trump's FDA chair, was writing an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal arguing against masking children. Point being, it took her a very long time to see the truth on some very controversial COVID measures.

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Mr. Trump not addressing the switch directly, but celebrating his nomination of Dr. Casey Means to the Surgeon General role, saying she has impeccable MAHA credentials. Dr. Means, whose brother Callie is helping RFKJ revamp HHS, is a graduate of Stanford undergrad and Stanford med school. She went on to become a surgeon who, in her fifth year of residency,

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Mr. Trump says Dr. Neshawat will work in some other capacity at HHS. The Wall Street Journal reporting two anonymous sources say the U.S. is ordering intel agencies to step up the spying on Greenland. The Trump administration eyeing the icy Arctic island for its strategic importance. As northern ice melts, key shipping lanes open up, slashing travel time.

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Military competitors China and Russia ramping up their Arctic influence in recent years. Greenland is also home to vast mineral deposits and oil reserves. A semi-autonomous territory of the Kingdom of Denmark, both local and Danish officials express strong opposition to U.S. acquisition. Despite resistance, on Sunday, President Trump again declining to rule out military force to take the island.

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But we need that for international security. The Wall Street Journal reporting, based on anonymous sources, quote, several high-ranking officials under Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard issued a collection emphasis message to intelligence agency heads last week,

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They were directed to learn more about Greenland's independence movement and attitudes on American resource extraction on the island. Agents reportedly instructed to identify people in Greenland and Denmark supporting U.S. objectives for the island.

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Director Gabbard responding to this report, quote, The Wall Street Journal should be ashamed of aiding deep state actors who seek to undermine the president by politicizing and leaking classified information. They are breaking the law and undermining our nation's security and democracy. The Trump administration undertaking a broad effort to crack down on leakers across federal agencies.

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Director Gabbard's office referring at least three alleged leakers in other cases to the DOJ in recent weeks. Ms. Gabbard confirming to The Megyn Kelly Show last week her office is investigating at least 11 more cases, some of which may be referred to the DOJ. We can safely assume that number's now at at least 12.

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A new LA Times and UC Berkeley poll finding 54% of registered California voters think Democrat Governor Gavin Newsom is more interested in boosting his presidential prospects than he is in governing his state. Just 26% say the opposite. Poll director Mark DiCamillo saying, quote, people kind of look at him as being very ambitious.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. Oh, do we have a treat for you today. Buckle up. One of the funniest people in America is with me for the full show right here in studio. Comedian Andrew Schultz has a new Netflix special out this week called Life.

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No, they just had... one of the, I don't know, it was Martin Luther King Day. And they had an assembly and they had the head of DEI go in there and talk to the girls and said, just as a reminder, we believe in equity. Everyone has the right to wind up in the same space. And of course my daughter, my kids are primed on this.

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You know, we're inoculating them against this bullshit at home, but she knew enough to come home and be like, mom, this is what they said. And I was like, no, she's absolutely right. On the next test, when you study hard and the girl next to you doesn't, she has a right to see your answers. You have to show them to her.

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She has the right to get the same grade as you, no matter how much work you did or didn't put into it.

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Well, they can't have the oppressors and the patriarchy running the school. Wait, are there any male leadership in the school? Yes. Well, not leadership, but there are plenty of male teachers.

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No, there isn't. No. Well, wait, I'm wrong. When you get to the high school, there's a, there's a head of the high school. I mean, she's only in middle school, but so we're not there yet. Yeah. I don't, I don't think they're against men, but you know, we did a bunch of research when the kids were really young on single sex education. And it seemed like K through eight, it was a good idea.

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And the good thing about this high school is when she gets to high school, she'll mix now with boys. So that's good. Cause you know, at some point you have to learn how to be around the opposite sex.

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What do you mean? Like co-ed K through eight? Yeah. Single sex?

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I think they're looking, I think for girls, the philosophy is, you know, they won't be afraid to say how they feel because, you know, in middle school, it's awkward for everybody. And maybe around the boys, you're a little bit more buttoned up. Yes. And then in the younger grades, boys tend to be more disruptive and kind of bigger pains in the ass. And girls are like well-behaved.

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And so then they get demonized. So it can be better for them to be alone too. I love that. They're not being compared to the well-behaved girls. Like at our boys' school, the first thing they do for the K-5ers is they let them go to gym for like an hour.

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Yeah. Isn't this fun? You have all this to look forward to with your now one year baby daughter.

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Well, like you're trying to rely on your doctor and you're, you know, you try to find a good doctor and just do what he says. But then this whole past five years has really undermined health in doctors and public health officials. Right.

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Yeah. Every pediatrician that we've had has recommended that we get them the COVID vaccine, which we didn't. Yeah. No, no, no. I got myself the vaccine, which I regret, but I did not get it from my kids.

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Well, and we were all being told on the initial vaccine that it would stop the spread, that it would make you not contagious.

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I have to tell you, I had... a couple of conversation with somebody very close to the Epstein case, like very close to it, who shall go nameless for this conversation. And this person swore to me- Acosta? No, that there's- He could talk too.

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That he- wasn't this quote pedophile that he was into like 16, 17 year old girls. And that, yes, some may have sort of gotten through that were slightly younger, but that wasn't exactly his thing. And that- Pretty much every famous celebrity was friends with him and went on his jet.

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But that at most all they were getting was like the so-called massages from these 16, 17 year olds, as opposed to like a pedophile ring.

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I mean, you think about it, though, because, like, how did Alan Dershowitz wind up, you know, becoming Jeffrey Epstein's lawyer? How did all these world figures wind up on his plane? Because he had, you know, he had cachet. He had money. He was already connected. He was tight with the people at Harvard. That's all you really have to say, that you're tight with the people at Harvard and MIT.

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Oh, God, likewise. I mean, you were actually one of my first guests. You know, we just celebrated episode 500 or 1,000. I don't know, 1,000. And you were 78, number 78. You were, like, on the ground floor.

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Like, if you've got these certain credentials, you're good.

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Even after you already pleaded guilty to something with a young prostitute, like we're still, Katie Couric's still going to go to your dinner party at your mansion.

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How about the Bill Gates thing? Yeah. Like, were you surprised when it came out that he was like with all these younger women and like these pool parties? And it was like, you know, he'd been so buttoned up in this like totally respectable person.

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Let's make it happen. I thought you were making a comment about women and Warren.

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What do you mean? Of course. With a Tesla, with a self-driving. No, not like he shoots it.

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I'm sure he could cash out on some of these, like Tesla at some point.

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Most of these people cash out and they, they sell like Mark Cuban, you know, he sold the business he came up with. And there's just the one sale because it seems like the first buyer winds up getting screwed. Like he thinks he's going to build it. It's he's bought something meaningful. And then when he turns around, like everything's collapsed, that happens all the time.

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You want to be the one who invents it, builds it up into something big on paper and then get out of town.

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How about Elon? Now he's in all over the news for the Doge stuff. He wore a suit the other night.

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Um, Mark, Mike Davis, who comes on the show a lot, he's a lawyer, uh, Trump affiliated tweet out something like two things. Elon has a suit and a babysitter. We haven't seen it.

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That's right. I forgot that. And now look at you. I mean, now your career has just taken off. Nothing. Things have been cool. Yeah, really cool. And personally, I mean, the funniest bit you ever did, and it's still one of my favorites. This is from a special, not like on this show, but you were talking about your then girlfriend and how obsessed she was with crime shows.

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Like you can either protect us or get us to Mars if things go to hell. Right?

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I think it is. I mean, like, what do we have? You guys, we have that Harry engine thing I asked for, you know, him over on CNN.

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He is. He's funny himself. I love his New York accent here. He is talking about the, the doge and the public reaction.

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What, what, how so? Like he should be more clear on the Doge website, which is not that user-friendly.

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I can totally relate to this. And how I remember you did this bit on how you'd watch NFL football with her and she'd be like, and some guy would have a compound fracture with the blood everywhere and the bone and every guy you know would be like, oh my God. And she'd be like, when is someone coming to murder him?

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That's sad. No, I actually, I don't go to Citibon because I I'm, you know, in my fifties and I just can't do that anymore. But I will tell you not too long ago, I was at the airport for a layover and I wanted this so badly. And I'm like, I'm doing it. And I got not just the small bag and not the huge, huge bag, but like the medium sort of large ish. Yeah. bag of Cheetos. Yeah.

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I ate every last one. There was a woman across me kind of looking at me, stealing glances. You could tell she was kind of like, is she going to eat that entire bag of Cheetos? I'm like, sister, I am. America, they're just like us.

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Well, then it starts to come back at you. But then you get the Manjaro or the Ozempic or whatever like that. It's better to keep it off to begin with. Trust me. That's fair. I've lost and I've gained over the years. It's better if you can keep it off.

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I think if you're a leftist, there is. You think? You have to at least say you are.

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After telling us that we were supposed to embrace it and it was healthy.

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Yeah. Yeah. What about swimsuit or sports illustrated now bring you back actual hot models for its magazine? America's healing. Yeah, right. With all due respect to Martha Stewart, I guess that didn't sell a lot of magazines or Gayle King. Oh, why? Did Martha go in there? Yeah, and so did Gayle King. And I think they eventually realized what they really wanted.

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I have my own theories. I think it's because when you grow up, who gets murdered? Who gets attacked? Who gets stolen? Young women. We're the victims. And so it's instilled in you from an early age by your parents, by your friends, by your teachers, by TV, the news. You're the victim. And so you walk around everywhere like, oh my God.

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But can I tell you something? Like, if you're a sociopath. Yes. Because I've talked to some sociopaths. They actually have no qualms about this whatsoever. They will talk to you about, like, yes, that is an acceptable menu item. Like, killing the person to take care of the problem is right there.

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Like, they just don't even... And, you know, one in four people are sociopaths.

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No, they study. Yeah. They learn the proper way of reacting.

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He goes to grieve the dead body at the wake. It was the wake. And he sees a woman near the casket and they exchange a glance. You know, they make eye contact. The man leaves. The funeral wraps up. A week later, that man kills that woman's mother. Why?

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What is it? Because he wanted to see her again. The woman. Oof. Now, let me tell you something.

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But can I tell you, everybody's so worried. My biggest fear. So the sociopath gets that like this.

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They have that answer like this. And let me tell you where I got this test from. Somebody who used to be in my life, that person's father was a psychiatrist in one of the worst prisons in America. And they would actually do this test on the patients. And man by man by man, if, and by the way, to my listening audience, if it came to you right away, you might be a sociopath.

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But you'll see, it has to come, like if you're wrestling with it and after like a minute, you're like, was it this? You've given a couple of guesses and you get there eventually, you're good. Because a sociopath immediately is like, because he wanted to see her again. Yeah. They just think differently.

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Of course. Again, you're like, who cares? Isn't that crazy?

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And then there's a morbid fascination with what happens to others. How do I prevent that from happening to me?

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But I knew you were in my head while I was like, should I do the sociopath test on him? I was like, what if he fails? I've humiliated this poor guy in front of everybody. But then I was thinking about the video you put in your latest comedy thing on Netflix. I'm like, there's no way.

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Yeah, we're working something out. You know, it's like the same way my 11-year-old likes to watch shark videos all the time. Because he thinks he's going to get eaten by a shark. Totally.

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Do you feel like this is the answer? Because this is the latest messaging from the Dems on social media today. Sot 13, choose your fighter video montage. Oh, God. Oh, yes. Yeah. It's Democratic female lawmakers, AOC, in the fighting stance and bouncing. Oh, she looks like an idiot. Look at this one.

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Look at her, Jasmine Crockett. Oh, the last one's terrible. I have second hand embarrassment.

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Is that what you mean by fearless and risk tolerance? Yeah, exactly.

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She's good on the social media. I mean, if she knows how to use social media normally, I don't think she came up with that campaign.

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I'm embarrassed to tell you that I've been dreaming lately about the AM update that we've been doing as a new pod that we've launched in our feed. It's very embarrassing. My dreams are about news now because I do it either really late or early morning and it's just on my mind. You shouldn't dream about news. That's just sad.

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Well, I mean, the problem they're dealing with right now is they don't know how to handle Trump. They don't know how to behave properly. Don't even talk to him. We're debating the spoon. They're debating whether you should stand when the 13-year-old brain cancer stricken boy gets honored. They didn't do it. There's a meme going on right now. I think Riley Gaines posted it saying...

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They, they knelt for eight minutes and 43 seconds for George Floyd, but they couldn't stand for Peyton McNabb, the now 19 year old, formerly 16 year old who got slammed in the face with the Bollywood. They couldn't stand for DJ Daniel, the little boy, the 13 year old boy with brain cancer. They couldn't stand for the widow of the cop who got gunned down.

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They couldn't stand learning that the terrorist who organized the Abbey gate attack got a

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But I could relate to, didn't you say, did I hear this in the special that you were saying your girlfriend always dreams about you cheating on her?

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No, wait, aren't you the guy? You're the one who said this to me and I've quoted you on it many times on how the moment Trump won you over was when he took the guy from Montenegro by the shoulder and was like, to the back. Wait, which one? When he was over at like the G7 or the G18.

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If you go on Netflix, it's one of the top shows right now. You can't miss it and you shouldn't miss it. It's only an hour. You will laugh. And believe it or not, you will cry too. It's actually very touching. At times, I did not expect that. And I was just saying to him before we got started, I watched it the same way I watch all Andrew Schultz content, like this. I'm afraid. And I love it.

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That's part of his weirdly... It's unbelievably charming. Charm and humor. What did you think of, I thought it was very funny, the State of the Union. Did you laugh?

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That's so true. It's why his background in construction really made him, despite his advantages in his family and when it came to money, so relatable because he spent his whole life around working class people.

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Yeah, well, that was, I think, pretty clear between the Democrats of today and the Republican Party. The best moment of Trump that I've seen on this score is the moment where he sat for that deposition on behalf of, in the E. Jean Carroll case against him. And the lawyer asked him, did you say that, that you can grab him by the P word? And they let you get away with it if you're a celebrity.

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And Trump said, yes. And she said, why did you say that? Well, because that's the way it's been for thousands of years. You know, unfortunately-

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It's part of, hello again, this is Andrew Schultz with me today. This is the latest Netflix special. It's out now. It's called life and it's so well worth your time. You know, maybe don't watch it with like your eight year old, but a teenager absolutely love it. And it's, I would say like, I watched the whole time where I'm like, oh my God, I'm dying. I'm crying.

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This whole thing is about your journey with Emma and trying to conceive a baby. Yeah. And I mean, no detail is spared.

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But so it's very personal. It was unusually personal for you. Yeah, yeah. Did you run it by her first?

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How did anybody ever get pregnant before IVF? Because everybody's doing it. Dude.

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Going into the room with the lady, oh. We just talked to the audience. Doug came in to say hi to Andrew in the commercial break. And we were bonding over our shared experience because he and I did IVF with our kids too. And Doug joked that after he had to donate the sample, first he said he was going to wear like a red crushed velvet smoking jacket on his way in and on the other way out.

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It was like a walk of shame when you're walking by all the other guys there. Everybody's there. Oh God. I know what you're about to do.

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You're like, so why did they make you go in to give the sperm sample? I didn't think it could.

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I told a story one time when Dave Rubin was on, but Doug had this, the funniest experience there where they make you ejaculate like 24 hours before the real sample. That's going to be like your future kid. Yeah. Yeah. They want you to clean the house. Yes. It's like, I can't remember if it was 24 or 48 hours before. Yeah. Okay. So, But they want it to be 48. Yes.

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Yes. So like timing does matter. It just so happened that on one of ours, we were visiting my, my Nana. Yeah. who was literally like 90 at the time. And we were playing dominoes. And I was like, oh, Doug, it's time. He was like, what? I'm like, you got to go in there right now. My poor husband.

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And you know, it's like one of these older person's homes where like there's five inches between the bottom of the door and the ground.

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You can hear every piece of conversation in the dominoes, like you're palming the double five, you know? And Doug sits right behind the door. So is he. It's horrible for Doug.

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I totally agree. You know, like- Same women have been saying that for eons because of the pain of labor. And it's so, you know- and then you forget all about it. I never had labor because I had three C-sections, but my friends tell me it's extremely painful.

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Oh, yeah. I was actually fine. No way. I did not have weird mood swings, but it was very funny because Doug does not, like, he... His mom got this terrible cut in her leg and it was so brutal. And Doug was right there. He bandaged it up. He put the medicine. I was like, I can't take that kind of injury.

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But you pull out a needle and Doug is one of those like, Oh, so he, so he can't, but he had to in the beginning, as it turned out, he didn't have to, but we thought he did. Yeah. Because in the beginning, they really make it up into a thing. Like you got to mix the compound and it's like kind of back in a hard spot to reach. You got to ice the area. Oh, my God.

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I mean, my girlfriends and I have had this talk many times. Like, would you definitely leave your husband or your boyfriend if you found out he was cheating on you? Yeah. And then, of course, you get into, well, is it a one-off or is it like a full-blown affair with somebody else?

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And Doug was in a hot, like a cold sweat. And the superintendent of our building at the time, his name was Lance. And they're like, it's very important that your wife have a partner that helps her. And Doug is like, this is gonna be very hard for Lance. Yeah. But he did it. He did it. He got it through. But honestly, by the third child, you know, he was no part of it. I was like, I need no ice.

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Right, right. So you don't give yourself an air bubble. Like, life or death.

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Doug and I, like, he'll start talking. I'll be like, be quiet. This is too important to me.

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So you weren't that guy who was like, she's going through a lot. These are just her emotions. I'm just going to let everything slide. I'm not going to get mad about anything.

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And honestly, most of the women I know have the same answer to both, which is, no, I would not leave them. But also they have children, right? Yeah.

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And then how about after she had the baby? Did she have like, cause you're sleep deprived. You're very hormonal.

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It's truly like an astronaut training situation. Yeah. No, it's brutal, but then it lets up a little.

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Yeah. Well, then you get to like the six month mark where the baby can start having like a smaller, like a solid foods. Yeah. And they're still having breast milk. And you're at the point now where you're producing more milk than ever. And yet the baby's somewhat getting a little independent. And the weight comes shredding off. That's the best moment where you're like, I'm making tons of milk.

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All these calories are coming off for free. Oh, because your body is burning calories. But your baby doesn't need as much milk from you as he needed in five months because now he's starting to eat food. But your body doesn't know that. So it's still burning like 800 calories a day. You're like, oh my God, I have a waist again. There's a normal ass. Thank you, sweet baby.

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I always say they're selling breastfeeding to moms all wrong. That you would care about the health of our babies, but we know that babies who are formula fed are fine too. You have to sell it to them like Ozempic.

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So now is it kicking in now? That's usually when you're like, what about number two?

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Is that what you're trying to say? I mean, literally every friend of Doug's right now is texting him home.

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No, no. When you just have one baby, like in the beginning, you're overwhelmed as you know, but like by year one, you kind of get it down.

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And things are, you know, you can still have a life. You can still take a nap. You and Emma can still steal away for like an hour in the middle of the day while your one baby is asleep or somebody else would easily watch your one baby. But when you have two babies, like under the age of three, you're effed. There's no napping ever. There's no downtime.

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This is where you really start thinking about having live-in help. Like who can come live with us so I can sleep again? I don't even remember three. It's like all a blur. But I felt the difference from one to two was much larger than from two to three. Like you've given up your free time when you have two. Got it, got it.

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And like a third, even a fourth, I think would have, I would have had a fourth if I had been younger when Doug and I had met, but one to two is big.

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Not saying that. Oh, let's see. It's just, you know, like, that's a— You know what?

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Yeah. No, I remember early on in our tenure of having two, Doug went to see his mom one day, went to visit his family, but it was just a day trip.

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And it was the first time I'd been alone for like 12 hours with both of them without Doug being there. I'm like, I'm good. I'm fine. Like I had a newborn and a two-year-old and I'm like, honey, I'm trust me. I'm, I'm the mother I've got this. And, um, so I was pushing, it was late in the day. Things hadn't gone that smoothly. I'm not going to lie.

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And I took them out for a walk and I was pushing the baby in her stroller. And my two-year-old was like walking next to me early. He was on like that little ride on thing that you can put on your stroller, like on his feet. And he had this thing where you love to take off. So I'm pushing the baby up a hill and he's on the little ride on thing standing there.

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And Doug turns the corner in his car coming home just at that moment. Right. So he sees the whole thing. So at this moment, Yates, our oldest, did not see Doug. He was just doing his thing. He takes off running and there's a massive street straight ahead to which he's running. And I can't just let go of the baby stroller because I'm on an incline.

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Like if I let go of the baby stroller, she's going to go. But he's running toward traffic the other way. So all this is happening. And there's Doug. And he kind of does the gentle beep and waves. And I was like, oh, oh, hi.

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Oh, oh. And then finally I'm like, lock the stroller. Try to rescue the toddler. I'm like, I got it. I'm under control. Oh. No, he knew it wasn't true.

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The whole thing is so humbling, isn't it? As you add more and as they get older into the toddler years, even more so.

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I mean, it's just... So do you do... Are you an involved dad? Do you change diapers and all that?

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And value and talk about. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like Republicans are way ahead on that. Democrats, I don't think they're there.

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Yeah, I couldn't agree more. And also for guys who are sensitive and empathic, but not man-bun-sand-mandle-merce-toting.

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Or some are just like, you know, or deadbeat dads. I was going to say they're producing children, but they're not even looking after.

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What, I mean, what tough guy ever tells you how tough he is? They don't, they don't talk about that.

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Well, you do a very funny bit in life about how you, you have, there's so much pressure being a dad to a daughter. Because one wrong move and she's on OnlyFans.

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Oh, we have that? Okay, let's watch that. That's so funny. It's hot six.

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You're not wrong. Daddy issues is a thing. What's mommy issues? No, it's not really. I mean, it can happen, but what is it? It's not as much of a phrase.

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No, it's more like he can't leave his mom. That's what I attribute to me.

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You wouldn't find it empowering for your daughter to consider becoming a quote sex worker. Oh my God. This was praised. Can we just call them whores?

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That's it. Well, what about that girl on OnlyFans? I don't know her name, but she's the one who had sex with like 100 people in a day. Stop it. And she's now going on a tour of nursing homes. That's cool. I like that.

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We do. Oh, yeah. Actually, my team is way ahead of me. Here she is in Sat 24. Her name is Lily Phillips.

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Yeah. That's, that's actually one of my favorite jokes I heard a long time ago, which was, um, uh, like a 95 year old guy marries a 25 year old gal and goes to the doctor right before the wedding. And he says, uh, is there anything I need to know, doc? And the doc says, yeah, you know, you should know that sex at this point could be dangerous, even lethal. And he said, if she dies, she dies.

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No, you can't have that. No. And then you're going to let them get on top of you?

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So does that make you worry for yourself? Do you ever think about it?

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Right, I know. I have such a fear of this. My mom doesn't have Alzheimer's and my dad died too young for me to know. He died at 45 of a heart attack. But I worry about it so much because it can happen to anybody. And even if you're using your brain as you do for a living, as I do for a living, you're not immune.

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It's got Sandra Day O'Connor who's like, I mean, there's nothing more intellectually straining than being on the US Supreme Court. So it's just so indiscriminate and it's terrifying to me. Some say diet. Yep. Diet.

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And sleep. Every time I have a sleepless night, I'm like, ah, it's over. Getting my early alleys. Yeah. It's coming on.

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Cause you do, you don't remember. When you have a bad night's sleep, you don't remember that as well the next day.

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It has the opposite effect. It's like nothing bothers me. Nothing at all. It's all really cute. Yeah. It's funny because I can't think of a thing about Doug that bothers me like that. And even after we just celebrated our 17th. Doug's the man, dude. He is the man. We just celebrated our 17th wedding anniversary on Saturday. Amazing. Yeah.

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Exactly. Oh, that's I mean, that's good. You take care of him. You have a good perspective on it. I always feel like if this happens to me, I said this to Doug, you know, please make sure I'm sitting in a room with all my favorite movies just on loop.

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And in my favorite audio books, just playing on loop like I just keep enjoying these series over and over and over.

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I'm not sure that's exactly the way it works, but that's how I'd like to believe it's going to work.

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Well, the other thing is, you know, this is one of the things that RFKJ has been talking about. there's been such bullshit going on in the public health world for so long.

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And we talked about this on our show four, three years ago, where this massive thing came out with this guy committed fraud in saying they'd made this major breakthrough in Alzheimer's and that they really zeroed in on the amyloid plaque. And then it turned out he had been faking all the photos to show this and they'd been repeated. And he was like the gold standard researcher in all this.

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And now it's like it was Alzheimer's research was set back by 15, 20 years. It's one of the other reasons why I just feel so good. We have people in there now who will not treat any of this prior bullshit as, you know, godly and untouchable. You know, Jay Bhattacharya, who just took over at NIH, he's being confirmed right now as his hearings are underway. Yeah.

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they were like, so you're not going to go back and look at whether childhood vaccines are linked to autism, right? Those are well-settled studies that there's no link whatsoever. And to his credit, he was like, look, I understand there's been a lot of research on this, but he basically said, I'm not going to say never.

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Like, I think there's nothing wrong with going back and looking and then revealing the science to everybody.

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And honestly, like even after 17 years of marriage, he doesn't do anything that like grosses me out. He's like, I don't know. I just find him very attractive.

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Meanwhile, I will say Elon's out there. Like we did screw up. We canceled funding for Ebola. Nobody likes Ebola, but you know that we're resuming that.

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Was your show the first one in which he explained the weave?

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But he is very funny about, not about me, but about other people that like his number one thing that drives him nuts. And his brother has it too. And I think it's called mesothelioma. Not like the lung disease you get, but it's, I may be saying it wrong.

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Yeah. I mean, well, I don't know if this is true, but they say like the average person lies something like 15 times a day. It's something ridiculous. But no, that was a great interview that you did with him. We actually have a clip of it. Right. Let's let's let's play it and we'll take a break later.

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He, he wasn't wrong. Like it was, and he does do the weave and he does manage to land it back.

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Yeah, you're riveted. The train is going. Yeah, but he will get back to Ukraine at the end. He'll get back to Ukraine. To his credit, because that's the place where most of us fall apart. You know, you lost your train of thought. You're off. You're meandering down a tributary. You never get back on the main river. Trump always does. All right, stand by. We're going to take a little tributary now.

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We'll be back on the main river with Andrew Schultz, whose new special, Life, is on Netflix right now. Go download it. Do yourself a favor. And we'll be right back with Andrew. I'm Megyn Kelly, host of The Megyn Kelly Show on Sirius XM. It's your home for open, honest, and provocative conversations with the most interesting and important political, legal, and cultural figures today.

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No, it's where you can't stand the sound of somebody chewing. Ah. It drives him- I was way off. Insane. Yeah. Mesothelioma is like the lung disease, and this is meso- I got to look it up. But he doesn't like hearing people chew. Mezzophonia. Thank you, Steve Krakauer. Yeah. Mezzophonia, right, where it drives you nuts if you can really hear somebody chewing. Chew. Yeah. Okay.

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That's amazing. I have to say. There are a lot of women who do it, but I've never had a male OBGYN. Yeah. And I never want one. My wife's dad is an OBGYN.

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I don't know. Some women are totally fine with it. Yeah. He's not looking at you as like an individual. Not at all.

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They don't see it that way. Like, I think they're able to distinguish between the moment they're with that personally versus professionally.

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You know, you got to go for your annual exam. There's checkups. Yeah, they do the full checkup. Pap smear, right? That, yeah. And you know, they can get on it up in there.

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It's very unpleasant. They put like this like clamp thing in you and then they take like this long Q-tip and they rub the cervix and then put those like cells on a Petri dish and send it out to go see if you have like early cancer. Oh, so it's to see if you have cancer. I mean, among other things, I'm sure. But yeah, that's what I think it's for. Wow. Yeah. Yeah.

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And you guys have to do that every year. Yeah. Well, I mean, that's most of us go once a year. Wow. Now you can potentially go once every three years, depending on like your health and whether you've had this HPV vaccine. That's very controversial. We did a whole show on it, but in any event, yeah, it's not pleasant. It's not pleasant even when you have a female doctor and they check everywhere.

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Well, no, doesn't your normal doctor, though, handle you and make you cough and check for prostate issues?

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I hate myself for loving it so much. You don't go out and buy a life jacket when the boat is sinking, and you don't buy gold when the economy has already collapsed. Clearly, others are heeding this advice as gold hit all-time highs already this year. It's not too late for you, too, and you could have Birch Gold help you diversify into physical gold.

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Well, you're a lucky man, because I'm sure if you had a problem down there, they would send you to a urologist, and then he'd grab you like a ketchup bottle, and you'd be uncomfortable.

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I know the whole thing with the doctors is like very intimate. They, they get right up in your space and like, there's no way around it as a woman. You, you know, you have to let them check your lady parts and then you get to the age where I am and you got to go for the mammograms and they grab your breast boob and they squeeze it down like a pancake. It hurts.

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And they're like, they're squeezing it. And then the woman's running out of the room to x-ray you. And you're like, why am I stuck in here with all the X radiation?

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And they're telling you you have to do it once a year. I don't know if I believe in it anymore. I mean, you do. Don't listen to me. Don't go for your mammograms. I'm just saying, like, now you had to start going, I think, at 40 or 45 and do it for 10 years.

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I mean, my Nana had it when she was 81, which I don't think technically counts, but, but it doesn't matter because most of breast cancers come in families where you didn't have a family history anyway. Really? Yeah. So you have to worry about it no matter what. It's just one of those things you hate. You hate the annual physical for this reason, right?

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And there's somebody in the extended family who's like, every time you sit down with this person, they get a big bowl of raw carrots and start like downing it. And both brothers are like.

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You just start, got to start thinking about all the things you don't want to think about.

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Yeah. You're still young. So I don't, do you get an annual physical?

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It's bad. Good dental health is very important. Yeah. Yeah. They say that. And the longer you wait on that one, the worse it is.

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Yeah. I'm not good at detecting them. I actually just found out that most people are wearing veneers who have those thousand watt smiles. Yeah. I didn't totally know that.

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Like it's going to be like the Kim Kardashian, but where people start rebelling.

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Oh, okay. Here's a, here is a transition. Oh, good. Tell me. Speaking of the Kim Kardashian, but yes, her ex Kanye West has a different wife. Now, Bianca, they may or may not be getting a divorce. There have been rumors and reports that they are, but unconfirmed. But before Kim, I think, and before Bianca, there was Amber Rose.

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And she gave an interview on Club Che Che with Shannon Sharp. And she spoke to why Kanye likes apparently having his wives be naked in public, like a lot.

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And she said, he did it to me, he did it to Kim, and he's doing it to Bianca. What do you make of that? That seems so odd to me, to want everybody to admire your woman so much you want her to go out naked in public.

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I have pretty good table manners. You'll see this with your new daughter. I mean, that's something with your kids. That I've like bestowed manners upon them. You can never let up. It's like they don't hear. They don't listen. You could tell them 10,000 times and they still don't listen. You don't go to the food. The food comes to you. Yeah. You know, like all the little things.

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Did you see all the porn he tweeted? No. Superbowl weekend. Oh my God. So all my, all my friends were texting me like, don't go on Kanye's X speed, which of course you got to do. You go immediately. What's he doing?

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It was a black man and a white woman in the videos without the faces and most of them. So I not sure.

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all over his x feed yeah and i was like oh my god right so then i logged off of that and it wasn't until a couple hours later that i remembered to mention it to doug i'm like oh my god so he went back it was still up yeah like it hadn't been taken down that's not surprised me because like there's a moment like the super bowl where he knows that everybody's attention is going to be on somebody else oh so he's like i'm gonna make this about me that's interesting

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Do you think the Hitler comments are coming from the same place?

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Right. Well, there are a lot of people like that in the public conversation.

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What if you always have to do the most subversive thing, the most controversial thing?

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It's back to the old, you know, Michael Jordan didn't tell you what a great basketball player he was.

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I was actually with somebody from another sport, which I won't reveal who it was because it would make it obvious. But they were like, I'm the GOAT. Everyone knows I'm the GOAT. And I remember thinking, I don't think the GOAT ever calls himself the GOAT. No. It's not a thing. No. So you've got this very successful podcast now in addition to your comedy routines. What do you do on that show?

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Are there any limits? Is there anything you do to make it a success? Somebody was just asking me this about my show, and I was like, that's not how I approach it. I just kind of do what I – I just talk about what I want to talk about.

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Small bites, small bites. And still you see your kid with like a mountain of food shoving it in there. You're like, I can't send you out into the world like this.

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I really think that that is fool's gold, right? Just to go for the viral clip, because it's like, you might get a lot of subscribers or follows or whatever, or even just views or likes of that one clip, but they're not real, right? I'm so glad you keep going. This is great.

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They're not going to stay like, that's why you see people who have a huge number of subscribers on, on YouTube, but very little engagement because their fans are not actually like, they just click to watch that one clip, but then they're, they're never coming back. Whereas if you just work on doing good programming every day, they're real.

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The relationship between you and the people watching is real. They trust you and honor you and vice versa. Trust you.

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It's called Life on Netflix. Check it out with Andrew Schultz.

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Well, here's to doing that a lot more of that. And if you want to see Andrew do that, seriously, trust me, check out life on Netflix for many reasons. We want to support him. You will laugh your ass off and there is no way we can let Megan Markle be number one. It has to be Andrew Schultz. So you get on there and you download it over and over, my friends. Watch it. We're coming for Kate Hudson.

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Great to see you. Great to see you. Thank you for having me. Okay, before we go, I have something important to tell you. I have been secretly working on a series for three years and I'm finally gonna bring it to you next week. Seriously, this has been a labor of love.

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It's taking me, I don't know how many hours of my time, but I've done it because it's a very compelling story and it's an important one. And I'm really, really hoping that we can get to the bottom of it together. It's a new series that I'm doing. Hopefully not every episode is gonna take three years, because it's a short life, but it's called Megyn Kelly Investigates.

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That's what I'm calling the series. And the first topic that we tackled is one that is near and dear to my heart for a number of reasons, and it's the story of baby Lisa Irwin and what happened to this 10-month-old baby. we go deep inside this case and the unsolved mystery. You have never seen the facts that we have uncovered about this baby's disappearance. We have brand new stuff.

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We have explosive interviews. Every single character involved in this story did sit with us, did speak to me. And, um, Well, I'm just going to leave it at that, but I'm going to show you the tease now. And the whole series is going to air on this channel next week. Watch. A baby girl vanishes in the middle of the night. It's a case that's never been solved.

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Megan Kelly investigates. We go deep into the clues. Her car was set on fire. Seeing a man with a baby is huge. New reporting. I was terrified. Was that chilling, Cindy, when he admitted that? Yes. I couldn't believe it. That was totally not true. I will always love him. Expert analysis. She gave us truth in the lie. And that's our best lead.

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And the guy everyone wants to know more about. We found him.

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Dead or alive, we need to find out what happened. Oh, okay. So it is a five-part series. It begins this Monday. Please mark it. I assume you're already subscribing to our show on pod and on YouTube, but if not, please do. It will live. It will air live on Sirius XM. It will be on youtube.com slash Megyn Kelly and on all podcast platforms. Thank you all so much.

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I still have some questions I have to say. I never took any sort of manners classes, though I would love to get some for my kids. If somebody offered that, I would totally hire this person. What is that called? I don't know. Etiquette classes or something? Like class? Yeah, class.

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Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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I don't remember my parents ever correcting table manners. You just, it's something I picked up on later in life when I got to be more of a professional person. Yeah. But I still have questions. Like here's one question for the audience. Maybe they know, maybe you know this. When you're eating soup.

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No, that, I know you're supposed to go from the front to the back. I know you're supposed to. I don't do that. You're supposed to scoot from the front to the back. It is stupid, but you're supposed to do it.

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Well, here's my question on it, though, in addition to those. What do you do with the soup spoon when you are in the middle? You want to put it down and or when you're done. Does it go right back in the soup or does it go on the little –

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And then somebody gets it. That's not okay. No, it's either supposed to go right back in the soup, which is what I think you're supposed to do. Or you're supposed to put it on the plate, like the saucer underneath the soup, that plate that's holding the soup bowl.

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I do know what to do on the plate when you want to signify you're done.

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Like ones that, well, I guess 10 of five, a 10 of five. So ones that the 10 and ones at the five on your plate.

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Yeah, that works, right? I'm done. Yeah, yeah. Nothing left on the plate. Are you a good tipper?

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Well, I always leave 50%. What? 5-0. Yeah. I always leave 50%. But can I tell you something kind of surprising? What? Is it good or it's bad? It's good. Yeah, it's a lot, right? I mean, they're not the government. I always want to be overly generous to the waitstaff. I mean, wow, that is a lot. I got to tell you something. Women don't usually tip.

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You will never read a report about me being a bad tipper.

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I got this from Sean Hannity who tips 100%. He does? Yes. Oh, wow. I'm like, that's too much for me.

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He does not need to stray. He's with Ainsley. He's good. Well, listen, I was going to say I would have I would kind of expect that when I go back to these same restaurants and have the same waiter, like maybe I'd get a little bit more white glove treatment. Yeah. I notice absolutely no white glove treatment. I don't think it really counts.

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So I just have to feel good about it in my heart, which I do.

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Well, I mean, it would be nice if somebody was like, thanks. Thanks for it.

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Yeah. My 13-year-old daughter just asked this question at the dinner table last night. This is where it's going for you. She said, is any act of charity ever for the other person or is it all selfish? Isn't it all selfish?

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That's, that's what she was saying. And she was saying, even just to make yourself feel good, there's an element of selfishness in it. And then my brother-in-law said, what if you threw yourself on a grenade? And she said, no, still you're, you're doing it. Like there's some piece of you that's doing it to feel good about saving somebody. Or you might be like awarded the medal of honor.

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If you're, you know, like there's something in there. 13, very cynical. Fuck.

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We couldn't have on Andrew Schultz if you could not curse.

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Yes. Well, she watches some of the Dateline specials with me. That's probably part of it. Though tonight, she's got that side where she's deep and philosophical and cynical in some ways. But tonight, she'll be starring as Ursula in The Little Mermaid at her school play.

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It's very hard with a mother who's in news and a father who is as cynical and funny as Doug is. Yes. It's just our kids have a very healthy sense of humor, which you would appreciate, but very realistic.

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What is her school? She did it. It's a private school. It's all girls. I will say it's more woke than I would like. But not as woke as the one we pulled her from in New York City.

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Also, to the people of Gaza, a beautiful future awaits, but not if you hold hostages. If you do, you are dead. 59 hostages are still held captive by Hamas in Gaza. Israeli defense forces confirm 35 are dead. Five Americans remain. Only one is believed to be alive, 21-year-old Idan Alexander. Officials are reportedly also negotiating the possibility of a broader deal to end the war.

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That'll do it for your AM update. I'm Megyn Kelly. Join me back here for The Megyn Kelly Show, live on SiriusXM Triumph Channel 111 at New East, on YouTube.com slash Megyn Kelly, and on all podcast platforms.

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Act now before the IRS acts first. Multiple censure resolutions circulating the halls of Congress following Texas Congressman Al Green's unprecedented outburst during President Trump's joint address. First to the floor, Washington Congressman Dan Newhouse.

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House Republicans prepare multiple censure resolutions following Congressman Al Green's unprecedented outburst at President Trump's joint address.

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The measure is expected to be taken up within days. Fox News Digital reporting Texas Congressman Troy Nels has his own resolution co-signed by about 30 House Republicans, and still a third will be filed by the House Freedom Caucus. Immediately following his removal from the chamber, Mr. Green telling reporters he's prepared for any consequences.

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Democrat disrespect hitting its peak in a moment where President Trump honored a 13-year-old boy with brain cancer. As Republican members delivered a standing ovation for DJ Daniel, Democrats remained seated. The partisan reaction continuing on MSNBC after the fact with this incredible comment from Nicole Wallace.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Thursday, March 6th, 2025, and this is your AM Update.

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Senator John Fetterman, who was in attendance, posting to X, quote, A sad cavalcade of self-owns and unhinged petulance. We are becoming the metaphorical car alarms that nobody pays attention to. And it may not be a winning message. A CBS News YouGov poll surveying speech watchers showing high marks for the president. 76% overall approved of the speech. 74% saying it was presidential.

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68% reporting it made them feel hopeful and proud. And 63% saying Mr. Trump focused on issues they care about. Vice President J.D. Vance, Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, and Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard touring the southern border in Eagle Pass, Texas. Border officials escorting the delegation on an aerial tour, providing updates to enforcement efforts.

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In a briefing, the vice president making some news with this comment.

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Vice President J.D. Vance calling on Congress to provide resources to fortify the southern border and deport illegal aliens. The Supreme Court delivering a blow to the Trump administration's order to freeze foreign aid funding. But is it as bad as the media suggests? And Mr. Trump's plan for a Gaza Riviera may not have been bluster after all.

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In the first Trump administration, the projected cost of the border wall was between 8 and 12 billion. A 2023 House Homeland Security Committee report says the Biden migrant crisis could cost taxpayers up to 451 billion. As illegal border crossings plummet, the rate of deportations is also slowing down. In the first week of the Trump administration,

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Daily numbers on the deportations were being posted to social media, tallying up arrests and removals. Those updates have stopped. Vice President J.D. Vance defending the administration's efforts, but calling on Congress for more support.

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Congress is currently working on a continuing resolution with hopes of passing a budget in September. Stanford's Dr. Jay Bhattacharya yesterday morning appearing before the Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions. Dr. Bhattacharya is President Trump's pick to lead the National Institutes of Health. The NIH is the biomedical research agency of the U.S.

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with a $47 billion budget and 27 sub-institutes and centers. The NIH deeply involved in many controversial aspects of public debates like vaccines, animal testing and the COVID response. Dr. Bhattacharya promising to achieve President Trump's mission to restore trust in institutions and to make America healthy again.

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During COVID, Dr. Bhattacharya bucked establishment thinking, authoring the Great Barrington Declaration in October 2020. The declaration opposed COVID lockdowns, advocated for natural immunity, and for a policy focused on protecting the most vulnerable. A completely opposite policy than the one advocated by the Biden administration, which worked to silence Dr. Bhattacharya.

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Dr. Francis Collins, who used to run the NIH, referred to the Barrington Declaration as the work of, quote, fringe epidemiologists. After Elon Musk bought Twitter, he revealed that the administration under Joe Biden pressured the social media company to suppress Dr. Bhattacharya's posts, the doctor sharing with the committee his view on the role of scientists in public debate.

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Dr. Bhattacharya facing a question from Louisiana Senator Bill Cassidy, who is also a doctor, on the value of revisiting what Senator Cassidy considers a thoroughly examined issue, the link between vaccines and autism.

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All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update. The IRS is the largest collection agency in the world. And with April 15th fast approaching, it's more aggressive than ever. If you owe back taxes or have unfiled returns, waiting is not a great option. Don't do it. April 15th could mark another tax year that just passed you by and added to your stress.

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Despite some controversial topics, the hearing overall remained well-mannered. The most contentious issue? Caps on indirect funding. Now, that refers to the overhead costs of medical research. The Wall Street Journal reporting these costs can range from 15 percent to 90 percent of a total grant. In early February, the Trump administration moved to cap

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indirect costs at 15%, a move quickly challenged in court. Last night, a federal judge extending the block on imposing caps as the case winds through the courts. These caps would result in massive funding cuts to universities, Republican and Democrat senators pressing Dr. Bhattacharya on the issue.

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Dr. Bhattacharya recognizing the senator's concerns, but reiterating the stance of the Trump administration. There is too much waste in government and in its grants.

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Republican Senator from Kansas Roger Marshall backing up Dr. Bhattacharya, calling indirect funding a grift from universities. Later today, the hearing for Mr. Trump's pick to head the FDA, Dr. Marty McCary of Johns Hopkins, will take place.

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Coming up, the Supreme Court delivers a temporary blow to the Trump administration and the president's grand vision for the reconstruction of Gaza may not have been a negotiating tactic after all. The human body is incredible, capable of repair and growth that amazes scientists even in 2025. But as the years pass, natural healing and building processes slow down.

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So the smart move is to get ahead of it now. But, you know, do not contact the IRS alone. That's crazy talk. Instead, you could let the experts at Tax Network USA handle this for you. Why? Well, not all tax resolution companies are the same. Tax Network USA has a preferred direct line to the IRS, so they know exactly which agents to deal with and which to avoid.

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Right now, enjoy 25% off your first order at ancientnutrition.com slash Megan. That's ancientnutrition.com slash Megan for 25% off. Support your bod and feel your best with Ancient Nutrition. The Supreme Court weighs in on a $2 billion legal battle, handing the Trump administration a temporary setback. The ruling stems from a lawsuit against President Trump's executive order pausing all U.S.

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foreign aid for 90 days. Two weeks ago, the AIDS Vaccine Advocacy Coalition, a major foreign aid contractor, filed a lawsuit against the State Department arguing the funding freeze was unlawful. A federal district judge appointed last minute by President Biden, who was confirmed by only one vote, issued a temporary restraining order against the Trump administration.

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meaning while the judge evaluated the legality of the order, foreign aid payments had to resume. But when the administration took too long to restart payments, it argues that it had to review each contract, AVAC, this group, returned to court seeking a contempt order.

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In response, the judge, Amir Ali, ordered the administration to immediately pay for contracts on which the work had already been done, an estimated $2 billion. The Trump administration appealing to the U.S. Supreme Court, arguing that once the checks are cut, the money will be gone forever and that the broader lawsuit on the merits is still ongoing.

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In a 5-4 decision, the liberal justices joined by Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Amy Coney Barrett siding with the lower court.

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In a scathing dissent, Justice Samuel Alito, joined by Justices Clarence Thomas, Neil Gorsuch, and Brett Kavanaugh, writing, quote, Does a single district court judge who likely lacks jurisdiction have the unchecked power to compel the government of the United States to pay out and probably lose forever $2 billion taxpayer dollars?

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The answer to that question, he continues, should be an emphatic no, but a majority of this court apparently thinks otherwise. I am stunned. Justice Alito accusing the lower court judge of abusing his power and accusing his colleagues of failing in their responsibility to prevent abuse of judicial power. This case is not over, however. The next hearing is set for later today. Stay tuned.

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President Trump squashing Egypt's counterproposal for the reconstruction of Gaza. The president shocking the world, most of all Arab leaders, with his post-war plans for Gaza.

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Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu praising Mr. Trump's plan, calling it revolutionary. Many others speculating the announcement was just a negotiating tactic, a ploy to get Middle Eastern leaders to come up with a way to rebuild the area themselves. the Egyptians quickly rallying other Arab leaders, presenting the White House with a $53 billion plan.

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The Wall Street Journal reports the plan envisions a six-month period setting up temporary housing, followed by two years of reconstruction. The The third phase of that plan calls for a development of a, quote, Mediterranean seafront revitalized by resorts and beaches.

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The White House promptly rejecting that plan, however, on the grounds that it does not adequately address Hamas leadership in Gaza and the area is not safe for human habitation. A spokesman for the National Security Council saying, Residents cannot humanely live in a territory covered in debris and unexploded ordnance. The ceasefire in Gaza expired on Sunday.

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Fighting has not resumed, though Israel has paused sending aid vehicles. Axios reporting the Trump administration is holding direct talks with Hamas to return U.S. hostages. The talks are unprecedented. No U.S. official has ever engaged with Hamas, since its designation as a terror group in 1997.

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President Trump in a lengthy post on Truth Social last night, writing in part, quote, "'Shalom Hamas' means hello and goodbye. You can choose. Release all of the hostages now, not later, and immediately return all of the dead bodies of the people you murdered, or it is over, in all caps, for you." For the leadership, now is the time to leave Gaza while you still have a chance.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. President Trump remains on offense and the results have been incredible. I just it's I can't get over it. The days keep passing.

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that he's overseeing and that ushered him into office. Here he is just a bit more from the man himself as he declared the E.L. Sot 1.

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But think of all, for example, with respect to the girls in sports issue, think of how many girls are going to be protected. Think of how many girls are not going to have to undress in front of a boy pretending to be one of them. Are not going to have their teeth knocked out on the field hockey field. Because Trump used his pen to fulfill a campaign promise. It was a thing of beauty yesterday.

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It's amazing. It's huge progress. It does not. It's not going to apply to private schools that don't take federal money or to independent sports. You know, it doesn't it doesn't govern the Olympics. It doesn't govern, you know, whatever. Pick your sport that men are invading. That's that's another battle.

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And it's an executive order, and we still need to sign the law, the law that we just had Senator Tuberville on the other day who introduced this legislation. And it keeps getting kicked out, keeps getting buried, even by Republican leadership right now in the Senate, which we're trying to pressure them into having a vote on this thing. It's called the Protect Women and Girls in Sports Act.

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So we need a law. The Republicans control the House, the Senate, and the White House. There's no reason we can't have a law. This issue has 79% support of the American people, 67% of Democrats. Here's CNN's Harry Enten laying out the numbers yesterday.

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As he points out, what does this country agree on? Name another issue that we're 79%... in agreement on. I don't think you can find one, really. Maybe like how we felt about Betty White, right? It has to be something that generic and non-controversial. This is extremely controversial. The other way to do this is extremely controversial. And it's amazing to me.

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We're actually going to be joined by Senator Ron Johnson after you, because he's on our side on this. And I'm going to ask him what he thinks. But this is The fact that Republican leadership won't let this come out for a vote in a Republican controlled Senate. Why not? What Republican would ever vote against it?

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And why are we afraid of making the Democrats go on record with their no votes when almost 70 percent of their own caucus, their own voters agree with you and me and Ron Johnson on it?

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He signed. It truly was beautiful. He signed an executive order. banning men and boys from women's and girls' sports. And the NCAA has already said it will comply. It was a complete victory in the war to protect our girls. Just unbelievable. The video... Let's watch it, okay? Let's watch it because it's actually kind of emotional. And then I'm going to bring in our first guest.

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Yes. I mean, talk about a no brainer. I want to pick up on your comment about the assassination attempt in one second. But you're a screenwriter, Hollywood screenwriter, in addition to being a very successful podcaster and book writer. Your comment reminded me, back when I was much younger, I loved this movie. I actually still love this movie.

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I've seen it so many times now, I don't pull it up very often. But it's Far and Away by Ron Howard. It stars Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman. And they're Irish, and she's sort of upper crust, and he's more working class. And he shows up in her hometown to kill her father, who's the wealthy landowner who...

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He who had his dad, well, not killed, but like was disrespectful to their family and burned their house after his father died. So he shows up there to try to kill her father and shoots, but misses. And it's a debacle. Well, so she shows up and rescues him from the makeshift prison. Her mother has made for this Tom Cruise character and asks him to come with her as she goes to America.

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She's fleeing to America to live a more independent life. And but he's just tried to kill her father. So why would she do this? And there's a great line where she's up in this ladder trying to rescue him from this second floor bedroom saying, boy, come with me. And he's looking at her like you're out of your mind. And she says, what I saw you do out there, you spat on that guy's face.

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He is the guy who spat out the bullet all but and said, fight, fight, fight. He's the guy who was told by everybody that Brett Kavanaugh was a gang rapist. And he said, no, he's going on the US Supreme Court. He's the one who, after January 6th, when the whole nation was like, you're gross and we never want to see or hear from you or your entire family again, was like, no, you will.

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And actually, I will be your next president. And I will never concede anything about January 6th. I did win. has never, never budged. That could be very useful to us in fighting the vicious, deranged far left that wants to erase what it means to be human. They want to erase truly humanity, the difference between women and men is as fundamental and basic to who we are as anything else.

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And yet they insist that we forget it because of this small, not particularly well group of people who happens to be extremely vocal and politically active.

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Yes. And then his presidential portrait is almost the identical image of it. He totally leaned in. Somebody probably said, you know, it looks a little like the mugshot. And he was like, great. Then that's the one. That's a wrap of this. I mean, just just like that could be very useful to me. That could be very. useful to me.

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Trump is very useful to all of us who have been trying to fight these fights, but without his steely resolve, without his power, without his never say die temerity and energy. And it's just such a gift to have him in there here. He on the subject of the assassination attempt and all he's been through. Um, and you know, there's just strength of this man.

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He was at the national prayer breakfast this morning and said the following, listen to side eight.

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So first of all, just love his sense of humor. And when it's at his own expense, so much the better. But second of all, Andrew, I think you appreciate the second soundbite because he went on. And I think, you know, it doesn't seem to me that Trump is a particularly religious man. But I know he did grow up going to church on the Upper West Side of Manhattan.

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We know the church that he used to go to. And he mentioned God and the role of God in our nation this morning. Appropriate place to do it. But take a listen to the messaging on it.

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How about that? I mean, of course, we've heard that many times in church and so on. But he it's his hand that guides us every step of the way. I feel like Trump is the one being guided. He like Trump is the one being guided by that hand on a daily basis, setting an example for us all and improving lives for us all.

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It was just to me, it was like very meta, you know, that he was saying those things, given all that he's doing.

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It's great to see him think about it and lean into it. I agree with you. There's a difference. Trump hasn't changed his basic nature, which is good because that could be very useful to us. But there's definitely been a softening, I think, of him as a human in that he seems a bit more loving. He seems a bit more serene.

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He's still a fighter, all the things, but he has this other side now that we never saw much of publicly, even if we were trying to cover him fairly and not as part of that fake news hating media. he's just getting, he's more generous with showing that side of himself at a minimum.

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I want to shift gears because it was just a wonderful, wonderful 24 hours and worth the first half hour of our show. Okay. But something else significant happened yesterday with respect to CBS news. So the audience may remember that CBS interviewed Kamala Harris right before, um, 60 minutes and, uh, right. Yeah. On 60 minutes, right before the election, um,

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And they put out this interview, which they sliced and diced. And you weren't quite sure what was, you know, was this the natural, like, was this a full interview or wasn't it? And then somebody online on Twitter was smart and pointed out that the tease that they had aired the day before on Face the Nation showed the interviewer's question, something like, Netanyahu doesn't appear to be listening.

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And Kamala's answer was, And then the next night when they aired the full thing or that, whatever, yeah, the Monday night, it was the same question with a different answer. And that led to this whole thing where Trump wound up suing CBS News for $10 billion for fraud, consumer fraud, defrauding consumers to win an election. And the FCC demanded a transcript of

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of the interview, which for some reason CBS just would not release. It became a big public firestorm. People said, just release the transcript. They said no. Well, now they've had to. They were forced to hand over the full raw video and transcript to the FCC this week. So it turns out now we know the full sit down with Kamala was just over 50 minutes.

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And what they ultimately aired was a cut down version that was about 20 minutes in length. Now that is typical for 60 minutes. They don't normally air their full interviews and they don't typically release the raw videos anywhere. But having said that, they've done it before. They released the full transcript, I think, or video of J.D. Vance. Catherine Herridge was pointing that out.

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They've done it before. So once it became a controversy, why wouldn't they have done it, right? The preview clip hit Face the Nation. It didn't match the version we saw the next night on 60. And watch, you can see that discrepancy in this clip here.

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Not much better, but slightly more clear. With the release of the full video, now we know how that whole thing actually took place. First, the question from Bill Whitaker was actually edited down, and the part taken out was more pointed than the way it aired in either version. And you can see the full Kamala answer too.

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Okay, so what we learned is that the first half of that inane answer was aired on Face the Nation as a tease, and on actual 60 Minutes, which aired the next night, they used the second half of the answer, which was... More succinct, though I don't know that it was more clear.

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I'm going to have to say 60 might have just been shooting for something that was a little closer to comprehensible, if you want to give them the benefit of the doubt. Neither answer was good. They both sucked. But now we do know that there wasn't more inanity stuck inside the answer. There were just those two bits of inanity, and they chose one for Face the Nation and one for 60.

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Okay, but there's more. Because now we've seen the raw footage of the interview, and we learned that the next 10 minutes of Q&A was edited out entirely. Again, this is always going to happen. It's not inappropriate to edit an interview with a presidential candidate. That is the format of 60.

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And most of us have limited time and limited airspace to put our interviews up in this kind of thing, like a pre-taped setting with somebody who's important. Not now, because I'm on podcast, but back when I was on the cable news or the broadcast news. But look here at what we never got to see.

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Surrounded by young, innocent, fresh-faced girls who just want to play their sports against other girls. That's all they're asking. Just for fairness and safety in sport. Something that for many decades has been a foregone conclusion in the wake of Title IX, but wasn't recently. Thanks to Joe Biden, that villain.

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Okay, so she said absolutely nothing. You guys all know how many times we heard those stupid phrases, meaningless, out of her mouth. You can make the argument that, okay, they didn't need to include it because everybody's heard her say it. But you tell me whether it's putting the thumb on the scale editorially to take that out.

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In essence, you could make the case that you're running cover for her because she is showing how what an empty vessel she is, that this is all she's got. This is a major supposed to be substantive sit down. And that's what she fills it with. This completely empty calorie calorie list filler that she says everywhere.

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Like you'd have to have the debate internally about whether you're running cover for her and taking that out. Later in the interview, Kamala went on a bizarre aside about picture day in school in Ohio on the subject of the eating of the dogs and the cats in Springfield, Ohio, which they also saved her from.

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Unbelievable. That's where she went. Words have such power. What could happen to the children? Well, let's look at what did happen. Picture Day got spoiled. It got spoiled, I'm telling you, Bill. And by the way, then she references the, you know, the bomb threats, which we know and knew were international. Some came from Russia. It had nothing to do with America.

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It was just shit stirring from out of the country. But somehow that's Trump's fault, all of which would have led to criticism of Kamala Harris. And it got omitted from the interview. All they included was that last sentence. I'm glad you're pointing these comments out that he's made. They've, you know, led to a response from people saying it's it's wrong. It's just wrong. All right. Another one.

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And his sidekick, Kamala Harris, who actually tried to convince us she could do this job. You know, we've talked about this, but the night before the election, I went to Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania and did something I've never done before in my life, certainly not as a journalist, but not even as a private citizen.

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I'm going to get Andrew to comment on all this, but we had to get this to you. In another section, a substantive discussion on the border. And this part was edited out.

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She's a know-nothing. So, Andrew Klavan, was it election interference, as some on the right claim, including President Trump this morning? Just your typical 60 minutes cut down? Or them, I mean, my own vote is like, it's not, I'm not surprised that all the edits they made were to her benefit.

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And that was I endorsed a candidate and spoke on his behalf and urged other people to vote for him. And I was there specifically, this was my task, I wasn't asked specifically to do this, but my choice to explain my vote was to tell people that those who were mocking President Trump's promise to protect women did not understand what he was actually going to do when he took the office.

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He keeps doing more incredible things, amazing things, gifts to us, just writing the deep, immoral wrongs that were done to us during the Biden administration. And we knew he was going to. He promised that he would. But aren't you so used to being disappointed by politicians? Everything's too hard. It didn't work out. The Democrats wouldn't cooperate.

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They're going to settle it because CBS News, Paramount is trying to merge with this other group and they need government approval. So he's going to wind up getting another donation to his presidential library, I'm sure. Listen, I've got to get to this before you go. You predicted the Bianca Sansore nudity at the Grammys. I mean, almost exactly.

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Here you were January 3rd, long before the Grammys aired on your show, The Andrew Klavan Show. Watch.

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That I was voting for him specifically because I believed that promise. We spoke about that night, Lakin Riley. I mentioned her by name. What was his first order of business? The very first piece of legislation he signed into law, the Lakin Riley Act to protect other young American women and men.

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I know I I'm, I'm waiting for somebody to show up dressed like a normal person and just holding up their SAT score.

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Who has the confidence to do that? It really like it doesn't take a lot to get attention, especially as a woman who happens to, in her case, be beautiful. Though my husband, Doug, was like, I'm like, she looks she has a beautiful body. He's like, she does not. She looks totally manufactured like a Mr. Potato Head with all these huge parts added onto her body.

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But I'm just saying it's not hard, not hard to get attention as a nude woman at a public event if you want it. It's sad that these two felt it was their only way of getting their name in the news. Andrew Klavan, thank you.

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All right, coming up, I would say the man behind the RFKJ nomination and pushing other senators to get on board, Senator Ron Johnson. And then Chuck Zito is here. Now's the time to prioritize gut health. Daily exposure to processed foods, work stress, fluoride in water, and environmental toxins, which are everywhere, can overwhelm your digestive system.

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Godspeed, Bobby Kennedy. Let's hope you can do it. Welcome back to The Megyn Kelly Show. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. was voted through the Finance Committee this week along party lines 14 to 13. That means he will be headed for the Senate floor for a full vote, though that vote has not yet been scheduled. Reports are that it will likely happen next week. Will he make it?

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Joining me now with his prediction, U.S. Senator Ron Johnson of the great state of Wisconsin. Senator, welcome back. So... This is important, and I know it's important to you personally.

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Our audience actually is very familiar, I think, with the roundtable you did on Maha issues with Casey and Callie Means, with so many people who are in support of RFKJ because they care about chronic disease in this country, an issue I know is near and dear to you. So your prediction on whether he makes it.

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from the crimes committed by illegals who are here, who repeatedly offend, and then in these sanctuary cities get turned right back out onto the street, which is what happened in Lake and Riley's case. And now what? We've had three executive orders, one declaring that sex is binary. There are no trans anythings. You cannot transition from being male to female or female to male. You can pretend.

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I was thrilled to see Cassidy vote yes. I want to say, again, thank you to the audience of this show because we gave out his contact information, and I'm sure his phones were ringing a lot, but I think they made the difference because it's not that often that a barrage of people start calling a U.S. senator's office or emailing the office, and indeed Politico has a report

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out this week saying Cassidy acknowledged that his phone was ringing off the hook with calls from supporters of Kennedy and his Maha movement. So right on our listeners and viewers, you made a difference and America and your kids hopefully will be healthier as a result of it. I want to ask you about Cassidy though.

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He sure did say that he extracted a lot of promises from Bobby in order to get the yes vote. Um, we have some of this on camera. Let's watch.

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So he seems to be saying there that they're going to be super close, they're going to talk several times a month, that he promised that the immunization schedule recommended by the CDC will not change. That is controversial, just the schedule, not pulling vaccines, but the schedule. And lastly, that he will not pull down the statement that the vaccines don't cause autism.

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You can call yourself that. Do your thing. The rest of us do not have to participate in your delusion, and we will not be saying your pronouns or pretending that your delusion is anything other than unwellness. Then one declaring that the federal government would not be participating in any gender transitions because that's fake too.

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I think what Bobby's saying, he's not going to push getting rid of the MMR vaccine. Sorry, go ahead, Senator.

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Good. Well, good on him for coming to the right decision. And sorry for all the phone call senators, but you did the right thing. Not really sorry, but I'm sure it was kind of annoying. Okay. A couple of things to get to here. When I sat in that hearing, as when I sat in the Pete Hegseth hearing, I could not believe the performance by some of these Democrats, Senator.

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And as a member of the committee that was listening to the first day of RFKJ, I wonder what your reaction was when it spiraled down into moments like this one with Bernie Sanders.

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You cannot use Medicare funds or Medicaid funds to chop off the healthy genitals of children in the name of this sick ideology, nor can any institution taking government funds in any way perform these procedures and continue to accept those funds. And now we get this one, this one that has 79% support of the American people.

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There are reports out this morning that the Democrats are now getting ready to vote no uniformly, all of them, on all of Trump's nominees, because this is their way. This is their new hashtag resistance effort because they're angry about what he's doing with executive orders, with USAID and Elon.

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And so now there there's a movement by Chuck Schumer to have them say no to everyone from this point forward. If so, it would mean the Republicans really can't lose more than three votes. So to get RFKJ or anybody else through, you'd have to make sure that Cassidy stays steady and that there's not another Cassidy lurking.

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We all know that possibly Murkowski, possibly Collins, possibly McConnell could be no's. So first, let me ask you, what do you think of that plan? And secondly, do you think that there is a different Cassidy who might surprise us and vote no against Kennedy? Because we are going to need all the Republicans, I think.

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Well, I really hope that these Democrats, whether they vote for him or not, can get behind the Maha movement, which is not political at all. There are Democrat moms and Republican moms and dads, for that matter, who want their kids to be safer and who want themselves to be safer. It's silly for people to prioritize this piece of our national conversation. It doesn't need to be politicized.

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Okay, you talked about these elites in the scientific field and how they've had a we know better than you approach and how this has been a longstanding fear in the United States. I've been watching as you have been over the past many months trying to get documentation from the CDC and the FDA and the National Institutes of Health on what was said internally when Fauci and the others were there

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about myocarditis and pericarditis and other side effects and serious risks or adverse consequences of the COVID vaccine. And I have been watching as you've been getting stonewalled and stonewalled and documents that are supposed to look like this, but instead look like this because they've been so redacted, totally whited out. As an effort to comply with your request.

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So what happens now, Senator? Because now we have President Trump's team going into those organizations. Of course, RFKJ ideally at HHS. And then we're hoping Jay Bhattacharya at NIH. And we're hoping Martin McCary at FDA. So are we about to get the full disclosure on what they knew and when they knew it?

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67% of the Democratic Party is on the same page as Donald Trump on whether we should have boys who pretend to be girls playing in girls sports, men who pretend to be women playing in women's sports. The answer is no. This was immoral. It was evil. And it's coming to an end.

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I'll be very interested to see what you guys find. Please keep us in the loop, and we'll have you back on once you get your information back. All right, last but certainly not least, this historic executive order by President Trump today on women's and girls' sports, keeping men and boys out of them.

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And we spoke with Coach Tuberville, Senator Tuberville, last week about why he can't get a vote on the Senate floor on his bill that would turn this exact executive order into law. We all love the four-year reprieve from this madness, but we'd much rather have it written into a law where the next president, if it were a Democrat, could not just revoke it with a different executive order. So

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What is your take, Senator, on why John Thune will not schedule a vote on the Protect Women and Girls in Sports Act?

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When you say you think it's just a matter of timing, what does that mean? Because, you know, we don't want to wait until after the midterms when we might not control both houses of Congress with sane people who will vote for this. So what does that mean? I mean, are you confident that Thune will bring it to the floor for a vote in the Senate?

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We continue to face uncertainty when it comes to the economy with a perfect storm brewing as Social Security and Medicare hit a breaking point as the largest generation is, of course, hitting retirement. A smaller workforce means a smaller tax base. You pair that with our growing national debt and rising cost of living and we could have a big problem.

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67% of Democrats are in favor of Trump's policy. 67% of Democrats, 79% of the electorate as a whole. So you should bring it to a floor. Make them say no. Make them say no before the midterms. That would be really fun to watch. Um, a couple of things you mentioned, you know, you're in a big push to get Trump's nominees through.

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Well, in the wake of the funding freezes that Trump issued early last week, both with respect to some foreign aid, now we've got the USAID controversy and other issues. The Democrats have decided to make Russ vote the nominee for OMB, Office of Management and Budget. They're their new fall guy. They don't want him to get through, but they can't stop him because he does have the votes.

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So they're doing like a sleep in. I guess they can delay the vote by 30 hours. Here is Chris Murphy, Democrat senator from Connecticut, on this sacrifice he and his staffers have made.

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Right. They're yelling into the wind, which is a cleaned up version of the way that saying normally goes. Senator, it's a pleasure. Thanks so much for being here.

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You too, Ron Johnson, everyone. Okay, up next, Chuck Zito is here. Superstar, former Hells Angel, bodyguard, stuntman, actor, friend of Trump. I mean, he's a man of many trades and he is here in his full glory right after this break. These days, personal safety is not something that can be left to chance.

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stuntman, actor, celebrity bodyguard, martial arts expert, and former Hell's Angel. That is just part of the colorful resume of my next guest, Chuck Zito. You may remember Chuck caused quite a stir back in May when he was spotted at Trump's business records trial in New York. He was part of the Trump entourage. The media had a field day reporting that a We've got a verdict.

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That is amazing. A large man in a flamboyant suit. That clip is from a forthcoming documentary called Chuck Zito, An American Story. Chuck, welcome back. Great to have you.

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I love it. What do you make of that description of yourself? Flamboyant man in a suit. Former Hell's Angel. I mean, yes, somewhat.

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So I learned something in preparing for this interview that I did not know before. I didn't know that. I mean, I knew Hellsings. I always knew that they were kind of like bad boys, kind of cool, badass. But I didn't know that there's some rumors that you might have to kill somebody to become a part of the Hells Angels.

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Yep. My dad grew up in Brooklyn too. And we both lost our dads at young ages. You were only 12.

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Text my initials MK to the number 989898 to learn more today. Joining me now to discuss this historic executive order and all today's news, Andrew Klavan. He's the host of The Andrew Klavan Show at The Daily Wire and author of the forthcoming book, The Kingdom of Cain, Finding God in the Literature of Darkness, which will be released in May. Wow, I love the title, Andrew.

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So I noticed too, because there's a lot, there's a big group today that's very into mixed martial arts and jujitsu in particular.

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People are loving. I know Joe Rogan loves it. I know Jocko Willink, he came on the show and said he believes we should all have our kids learning jujitsu.

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Not just for the physical, you know. nature of it and it's self-defense, but the discipline, the mental discipline that comes with it.

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You're very impressionable. You saw the dad do the boxing, you did the boxing, and you saw Bruce Lee. I'm glad you didn't watch Tootsie too many times.

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I used to watch that Superman show every day after school. It was in black and white. They'd run the reruns.

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And, uh, with the original, you know, now it would look so dated to us. Right. But yeah, it was great at the time.

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Do you have a favorite of those? Like if I'm going to have my kids take Jiu Jitsu, which one would it be?

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So if you've got all these black belts and all this discipline in the martial arts, how long would it take you to knock me out if you wanted to? You? I've never hit a girl in my life. If you had to, let's say like 30 seconds, 60 seconds.

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It's a similar theme to what we just saw today. Not that Trump is God, but that God was present as he signed that executive order in the darkness of these past four years yesterday.

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Well, you're not afraid of, not a girl, but you're not afraid of punching a celebrity because I've heard there was an incident with Jean-Claude Van Damme.

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Right. He goes down. No, it's like you don't want to insult him. I understand. That's sweet. But most of us, the thought of punching Jean-Claude Van Damme is horrifying. We'd get punched back and it would not go well for us. You have a lot of experience. He insults you. You take him down. And then there's actually a really fun epilogue to the story 17 years later.

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But the reason he knew you prior to that whole incident, you pointed out, was you were his bodyguard. So you took your background in learning self-defense and so on and parlayed that into being a celebrity bodyguard. You bodyguarded some of the best.

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So that's interesting. You got like one foot into the celebrity world with her and that opened up lots of doors.

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You can see the ones who are super nice even to the bodyguard and the ones who aren't.

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Oh, my gosh. Must weigh five pounds. I just showed up so the camera can see it. So this is Elvis Presley's?

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There's a scene in the movie where Sylvester Stallone, who I know you also bodyguarded, must feel like a very big responsibility. I mean, if he can't take care of it himself, it's a serious threat. So it's got to be.

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And we saw Conor McGregor at the inauguration. He had a bunch of bodyguards, too, for the same reason. It's not that they can't protect themselves.

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Absolutely. As he was speaking there, we heard a soundtrack pop in from Joan Jett. Joan Jett. And there's a reason we have Joan Jett. She's also in the documentary talking about her relationship with you. Here's a bit from Joan. This is great.

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these people must really like you to have appeared in the film, you know? Cause it's one thing, like I've had lots of bodyguards here or there at various events. I'm not sure like they'd ever call me to be in one of their movies. So how do you maintain, like what happens there?

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We get used to like, well, I guess, you know, we tried. And what's happening? Yes, it's via executive order. Yes, it can be undone by the next president. but it's something, it's progress. He's doing what he said he would do. He's fulfilling the promises he made to us. And then he will also push for the legislation. He is doing that too. But at least we have a four-year fix.

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Cause you, in between the boxing and the martial arts and the bodyguarding, there was a stint. She mentioned Japan where you went, there was some brief time in the slammer. It was brief.

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So, and they put you out in Japan and then you had to come back here and go to jail.

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But this becomes kind of relevant to your friendship with Trump. I mean, when he got indicted on criminal charges- For his alleged bookkeeping errors.

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Oh, we don't have the clip, but I saw him. And he goes on and on about you and how much he likes you.

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You spent a whole life between the Hells Angels, not to mention the prison time, the boxing, the mixed martial arts, the bodyguarding. Yes. I mean, Trump's also extremely tough.

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Have you seen like a big change from the Donald Trump you knew back in the day at, you know, the cocktail lounges and the one who you see now?

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And he's for you because, I mean, he's a very busy man to take the time out to appear in this film. All these people, I think that's something extraordinary about you, Chuck, and I really enjoyed the story. You are a colorful character. I can see why so many have gravitated towards you.

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All right, so keep us abreast on when it's actually going to hit and where, and we will update the audience so that they can enjoy what I enjoyed. So nice to have you here.

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We'll do it all over again when the actual film hits. Wow, right? Chuck Zito, everybody. We're going to be back tomorrow, but I do want to tell you before we go, you got to go to megankelly.com, all right? And there you can sign up for our once a week email. That's all it is. And on our once a week email, we will update you on all the highlights of the week.

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I, I love everything you said. I'm feeling like I, I feel euphoric about it. I feel emotional about it. I feel a lot for the girls who have been hurt over the past four years who, you know, all these trans lobbyists are like trans people exist, you know, don't erase our existence. They erase the pain of girls just like that. They just pretend it didn't happen.

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At least we have a four-year restoration to sanity and morality in some departments, like the one I'm about to talk about, such that Americans can live again in a way that makes sense, in a way that is safe, in a way that is normal.

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You know, I referenced that night in Pittsburgh and it was For me, it was a big deal to go and do that. I've never done that before. And it was really important to me to do it.

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If I could convince any of my fellow women, because I know that there are a lot of Democrat women who were kind of open minded to Trump because of issues like this, who were still being told he was Hitler, who were still being told he hated women.

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And I felt in my heart that if I could speak to them, if I could reassure them that even notwithstanding my weird past with Trump, I was fully on board in supporting him and that they needed to see him through this different lens. They needed to understand he really would protect us. He really would.

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And that absolute cretin Chris Cuomo then mocked me for saying I needed to be protected by Donald Trump. I do want Donald Trump to protect me with laws that enforce, for example, our immigration policies. And I do want him to protect my 13 year old daughter, Chris Cuomo. So go fuck yourself if you don't understand that. But this is what I said that night. And it's why I'm so emotional today.

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The boys should not be in the girls sports. The boys should not be in the girls' bathrooms. The boys should not be in the girls' locker rooms. Peyton McNabb, North Carolina sophomore in high school, slammed so hard in the face by a volleyball hit at her by a boy pretending to be a girl. She suffered traumatic brain injury and permanent paralysis.

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Kamala Harris looks at her and says, be kind, suck it up. And that's what's right. Why do our girls have to face brain damage in order to be kind to boys who want to invade their sports? And lo and behold, he did it. He stepped in there. He's been in office two weeks and two days and he signed this executive order.

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Therefore, it is the policy of the United States to rescind all funds from educational programs that deprive women and girls of fair athletic opportunities. I'm feeling emotional about it, which results in the endangerment, humiliation and silencing of women and girls and deprives them of privacy.

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It shall also be the policy of the United States to oppose male competitive participation in women's sports more broadly as a matter of safety, fairness, dignity and truth. Directing that this secretary of education take all appropriate action to affirmatively protect women.

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all female athletic opportunities, and all female locker rooms, and to prioritize Title IX enforcement actions against any educational institution that denies female students an equal opportunity to participate in sports or athletic events by requiring them to compete against or appear unclothed before males. What a day, Andrew. What a day. He did it.

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And if another president comes in after Trump and tries to undo it, they will feel the acute shift in a way that will be profound and will, I think, stop the next president from doing it. So there is real value in these executive orders. Forget that. That's a valid point, the one I just made.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and our second show from Washington, D.C. today. We actually had planned on sticking around this morning and we were going to do the interview with Marco Rubio, which we already released today. Check it out. A lot of interesting stuff in there.

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We were actually supposed to be flying out of Reagan today, like right now. And we knew that wasn't going to happen. Amazingly, then they did open the airport. And I just, like, I cannot imagine. We are flying later today. I just can't imagine flying out of Reagan right now with that scene still in recovery and them still trying to find the bodies, the remains of those killed.

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So I think the real question is- So would you know as a helicopter pilot, you just, I mean, I don't know, is there a calculation that shows you how big you are and how close you're getting to the plane? Or is it just your knowledge of this is the size of the aircraft I'm in and I don't want to get anywhere near that?

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I suppose we should be open to the possibility of helicopter malfunction, too. I mean, we don't know for sure.

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Whenever there's an aviation... But the black boxes will show us all of that.

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My pal Janice Dean was reporting the weather this morning for Fox, telling us that last night, while it was windy here in D.C., very windy yesterday, by the time this happened last night, just before 9 p.m., the wind had died down. It was extremely clear. The temperature had calmed down, too.

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She was convinced as a meteorologist that weather was not a factor in this, though she said bad weather is coming, which is going to affect the rescue workers as of tonight, bad winds and And, you know, you just got to feel for the first responders and the families still on site, hoping for any sort of miracle, John. Yeah.

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They don't have everybody. The last number I heard was 28 bodies from the plane and one from the helicopter have been recovered and the family members must be in a holding area just now. in such pain. I cannot stop thinking about them. So we're going to start the show today with news on the plane and we'll bring you the very latest. It's truly like all anybody's talking about.

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Me too. It's so awful. All these ice skaters are young, promising ice skaters. The future of our U.S. Olympic team, apparently it was the young ones, not the ones who will compete in a year, but the ones who would be competing in four years after that. And at least 14 members of the U.S. figure skating team believed that.

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to have been killed that doesn't include parents and coaches um these uh two russian figure skaters who had moved to the united states evgenia shiskova and vadim nalbov married 1994 world pairs champions just the beauty of those two on the ice and to think of just these promising incredibly talented i'm sure they've been sharing their gifts athletes with everything in front of them

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And then the others, you know, we haven't gotten all the details, but undoubtedly there will have been children, there will have been grandmas, there will have been people who had no idea that getting on a flight from Kansas to Washington, D.C. would be the last thing they'd ever do.

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The only comfort to me as somebody who has a mild to moderate fear of flying is that they wouldn't have suffered, guys, right? I mean, like, they wouldn't have suffered. This would have been a very quick ending. Yeah.

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And they take an oath to protect and defend. They're out there to save lives. That's what those guys are doing in no way. Clearly, did they mean to do anything that would cost them? Guys, thank you. Thanks so much for your expertise and for being here.

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say a prayer for the families and for the first responders. And he's right for the air traffic controllers who still have to go out there and do their job. You know, I'm not a great flyer. My friend, Abby, a different Abby, and I have been joking for years that we're going to go learn how to fly, you know, because they said that's what cures fear of flying, but I'm too afraid to do it.

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But here are some of the stats that were circulating last night. Every day, more than 45,000 flights and 2.9 million airline passengers traveling for work or fun or to visit friends and family and trust their lives to the FAA. More than 45,000 flights a day. And we have not had an aircraft crash like this since 2009. Think about that. Think about that.

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And then, hold on, my pal Yashar Ali, independent journalist, last night tweeted out the following. He said, I know this doesn't always help, but please remember that the last time there was a commercial airline crash in the U.S. was in 2009. Since then, there have been over 150 million commercial flights in the U.S. alone. Not one crash until tonight.

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Commercial air travel is the safest mode of transportation. Now, that's absolutely true. More than 150 million flights. Totally safe. No crash. But the New York Times had an article in August, this past August, about how close calls happen far more often than was previously known publicly. Multiple times a week, they said, involving commercial airlines, including

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thanks to mistakes by air traffic controllers stretched thin, by a nationwide staffing shortage, and obviously there's the risk of pilot error as well. And this is one of the reasons why President Trump, we have no idea, this is not a DEI comment, but that's one of the reasons why he's eliminating DEI in all aspects of the government, including the FAA. This industry is,

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And then we will get to the politics happening in D.C. because President Trump, if there's one thing we've learned over the past 24 hours, is he needs his cabinet in place. He he he needs his top advisers. And yes, thankfully, he has Sean Duffy as secretary of transportation. It was his first day, couple of hours on the job.

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all industries, but this industry and the medical industry where lives are at risk must, must be based truly solely on merit, on merit. So beyond that, you know, it's so hard. We're going to do things to fix the risk of a helicopter running into a plane. You know, we'll, we'll put those patches in place, but every once in a while out of 150 million You're going to have an accident.

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And the thing about air travel is it's just so catastrophic. It's not like a car crash where, you know, it's tragic enough if a family dies or a couple dies. But, you know, to see 67 people dead in an instant right over the nation's capital is traumatic. It's jarring for regular Americans who get on planes all the time.

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And it's just part of living in a free society where air travel is the miracle it is. And we use it and rely on it heavily. I, despite my fear of flying, will be back on an airplane today out of Washington. And God willing, I'll be fine and so will you. But prayers for those affected by the horrific tragedy in D.C. today. Glenn Grewald is here. We'll be right back as we take a turn to politics.

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It was an extremely busy day on Capitol Hill, so let's get into two of the hearings, and we'll do the third in a minute. Tulsi Gabbard and Kash Patel. My next guest is the perfect person to be discussing those with. He's Glenn Greenwald, and he's the host of Rumble's System Update. He won a Pulitzer Prize in 2014, which we mention every time he comes on.

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Well, we don't always mention what it was for. It was his reporting at The Guardian at the time based on the documents that were provided to him by Edward Snowden. whose name was mentioned non-stop at the Gabbard hearing today. Glenn, that must have been surreal for you.

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I mean, you knew it was coming, but I mean, if you had walked into the room and offered to testify at that moment, they would have said yes in a heartbeat to cross-examine you like they did with Tulsi. Let me play a little sound before we get into it, and I'll kick it off with OK, I'm going to do I'm going to do three soundbites.

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And Hegseth had been confirmed to DOD, which obviously is involved because of the helicopter. But God forbid this had been an international crisis or a terrorist attack. He needs his DNI. He needs his FBI director. He needs his CIA. He needs all of them. So no more jerking around. These senators, stop delaying. If you're gonna vote no, then you're gonna vote no, then go ahead and vote no.

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OK, and I'm going to set it up and then you're going to take it on Snowden. But I want to give the audience a feel here. First is a Democrat. He was the one who first started it. Senator Angus King, Democrat of Maine. His was rather gentle. Here's how it went.

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All right, I lied. I'm going to show you two soundbites because they're too long. That was a Democrat. Now here's Republican James Lankford of Oklahoma trying to dig down on Snowden too.

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Well, they didn't stop there, Glenn. As you know, they, I guess I will play it, forgive me. I just want to set it up properly. Michael Bennett, he's a Democrat from Colorado, went all in and was not happy that she would not sign on to the T word, traitor. Watch.

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You're allowed to vote no. But stop with the, we need additional documents. We need seven more rounds of questioning. It's like, this is serious stuff we're dealing with here.

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um there were three major trump administration confirmation hearings today after we interviewed the secretary of state we did go by the tulsi gabbard hearing which was actually quite interesting it wasn't full of fireworks although there were some uh as we saw with rfkj yesterday or certainly what happened over in the kash patel hearing today but

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I actually was thinking about that because I feel like if if you'd been out there, you would say, no, he's not a traitor. And let me explain why. Why do you think she because she just knew she'd be losing too many Republican votes in particular if she was just forthright.

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So it was striking to me to see how much time was spent on that. Granted, I was only there for about an hour and 15 minutes of the whole thing, but almost that entire time was spent on Snowden. I was thinking I'd be drunk if we were playing the Snowden drinking game, Glenn. And then swoops in, right before I left, Senator Ted Young, Republican from Indiana, who is a critical vote.

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And I don't feel good about him voting yes on Tulsi. I could be wrong. You know, it could be like a Cassidy situation with RFKJ where like he played it in a way that confused me at the hearing and he winds up voting yes. I don't know whether Cassidy is going to vote yes, but I didn't feel so good about Ted Young. And I know a lot of eyes are on him. He also brought up the Snowden stuff.

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My God, it was like almost only because it was uniform opposition to her. It was amazing. Usually you sit in these things, you can tell which side is the Dem, which side is the Republican by who's giving them the hardest time.

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Today, I think she got a tougher time from the Republicans than she did from the Democrats, with the exception of Michael Bennett, or at least that was my impression in the hour plus I was in there. We've got all the highlights. And then later in the show, we're going to have Callie Means, who's going to talk to us about the RFKJ nomination.

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I mean, it was pretty amazing. John Cornyn, too, Republican, was all over her, not on Snowden, but on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, the FISA court and the warrants and Tulsi's reversal, which, again, you tell me if you disagree. She had to reverse herself on that. the use of the FISA court and these warrants, or she never would have been, she'd have zero chance of getting confirmed.

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So she did an 11th hour, like, oh, I support it, even though I've been very against it because they amended it and they made some changes that were acceptable. Literally, she might've just kissed her nomination goodbye if she hadn't said that.

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And so these senators were not accepting the reversal and Republicans like the FISA court, they're now much more controversial under Trump and with MAGA, but- Old school George W. Bush Republicans love FISA. So John Cornyn is part of that crew. And here's a little bit of how he and he was bringing up the 702, this provision which allows these these behaviors under FISA. Watch.

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We're also, after we start with the plane, going to get to Glenn Greenwald. He's got a lot to say about Tulsi and cash. He wasn't mentioned that I heard by name, but his reporting was by almost every senator. Glenn is the journalist who published the Edward Snowden leaks on the NSA spying program, the domestic spying program. Or, you know, that's not exactly how they'd refer to it.

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But it was like a Jekyll and Hyde from yesterday with RFKJ with with with him.

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Now, I am nowhere near as neck deep on FISA as you are, but I do remember the Fox News days of defending the FISA court and the FISA warrants because we were post 9-11. We were very scared and they were using the FISA court. to try to get warrants on people they believe might be domestic terrorists, might be, you know, going to let off a bomb.

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And so in that posture, I was like, great, do it, go for it. And I remember defending even the NSA program that Snowden, you know, leaked on and you revealed in your reporting to some extent because it was – they defended it by saying we weren't really spying on Americans. What we were doing was we would –

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If a suspected foreign terrorist was talking to an American, then we would listen to the conversation. But you had to have that link. It wasn't just like, let's listen to Meghan and Glenn. It was, oh, Meghan's having a conversation with Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. Yes, we're tapping in and we're not going to give her all of her Fourth Amendment rights before we do that.

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And he, I think, is completely aligned with Tulsi's worldview about that needing to stop and about Snowden deserving a pardon. I know that. He's in favor of that. So we'll talk to him about whether these were fair attacks inbounds, out of bounds, and whether we were being told the truth by the senators who are all over her today. But we begin with a tragic crash.

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It's his first long foreign sit down since becoming secretary of state. And then we were going to fly home and cover the Kash Patel, the Tulsi Gabbard, and the second day of our FKJ hearings from our home studio in Connecticut. And that plan fell apart after the horrific plane crash last night here in DC. I just, I mean, I'm sure like you, I've not been able to stop thinking about it.

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Well, it's like you broke trust. He broke trust with the United States. Like, OK, if that's going to be our standard for declaring someone a traitor, Joe Biden is going to have to be accused of being a traitor. I mean, like how many lies did he I'm not going to pardon my son. I never did business with my son. Oh, and by the way, I'm totally competent to do the job.

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Kamala Harris, she should she's a traitor because she told those same lies and they weren't true. It's like that that can't that dictionary definition he pulled up was ridiculous. kind of a trick. It was just sort of a fun parlor trick.

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I was just going to say it doesn't much matter because he gets to vote and you and I don't. And he's going to do it behind closed doors and he's going to probably vote her down. I know she can still head to the floor, but how can she get a vote? I think that I think even the floor vote can be stopped if she doesn't get cloture, if she doesn't get 60 votes for cloture.

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Yeah, maybe maybe that could stop if we got somebody at the top of all those agencies who could be trusted to protect Americans. Fourth Amendment rights, to be honest with President Trump about the intelligence assessments that are coming in and wouldn't be so interested in seeing her information appear in the pages of The Washington Post or in overseeing organizations that have people like that.

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I mean, what what could happen if we tried radical change there, too, in the same way we're trying radical change at. DOD and hopefully HHS. That's the point of Tulsi. What we've been doing has led to the collapse in some ways of some of our most fundamental ideals in our country. And people have had it. That's why they elected Trump. He said he was gonna put her.

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It was an Army Black Hawk helicopter crash. that collided with American Eagle Flight 5342 from Wichita, Kansas, arriving here in D.C. at Reagan National. Sixty-seven dead, 60 passengers, four crew members, plus the three soldiers aboard the helicopter just before 9 p.m. last night.

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You know, the top is just there is a mandate for Trump's nominees. Why can't we just try it? I don't know. Like they want us to believe we're going to get bombed tomorrow by some terrorist organization because Tulsi said no to FISA or Tulsi thinks Edward Snowden might not be a traitor.

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And that's really impugning the woman's integrity as someone who's not a patriot, who doesn't love the country, who won't act in our best interests. And I'll just I'll play this one last soundbite, then I'll give it back to you. And then we'll move on to cash. But here was Tulsi. defending some of these attacks in a more sweeping form as part of her opening statement in Satu.

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jets plunged into the icy waters of the potomac while yesterday here in dc it was above 50 degrees uh the water temperature was still just above 30 35 degrees they say which comes as no surprise after weeks of it being just a frozen tundra down here the inauguration was dangerously cold that whole week as it was much of the northeast it was a horrific accident that is leaving us all those of us here in dc and beyond across the world wondering

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Honestly, I'm glad you said the woman thing because I was I was talking to Steve Bannon yesterday on his podcast. And he said, why do you think they're coming after her over and over with this? Like she's Putin's puppet and Bashar al-Assad. And I said, I have to be honest, there is something that is jarring to me that has to do with the fact that she's a woman. Like she's easily manipulated.

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She's too dumb. to see through an attempted manipulation by Bashar al-Assad. You know, it's like I went over to Russia repeatedly. I sat with Vladimir Putin, former KGB agent. He definitely tried to manipulate me. He knew exactly which buttons to push. He knew I was a mother. He tried to talk about my children. He tried to talk about his own children to soften me up.

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I understood fully what he was doing. I was not manipulated by Vladimir Putin. It was interesting to watch the stagecraft, you know, the witchcraft, spycraft of it.

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But there was there's an assumption with her, I think, that she's just easily she doesn't understand how they're trying to manipulate her and the fact that she could emerge after somebody who did try to manipulate her with a more nuanced view, like not not.

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not emerge from the meeting with Bashar al-Assad or from studying Putin by saying they're the most evil dictators ever, but to say I wasn't manipulated, but I do see this situation differently than some of the neocons do, that's it, right? That's her biggest sin, that she's not allowed to have nuance. You have to be totally against them. I will do one more soundbite.

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Back to Michael Bennett of Colorado, who's very angry about what she said the night Russia invaded Ukraine. It's not 12th.

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Amazingly well said. Exactly right. So we'll see. I do believe that we'll find out what the vote was. Tom Cotton is running Hurd on that committee and he's very much behind Tulsi, which is good. He's such a noble guy, too. I just I think he'll he'll do his level best to get her across the finish line, which is not 100 percent sure it's possible because.

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The questioning on the Republican side was just so negative and kind of nasty. And she's definitely not going to find those votes over on Team Blue. But it would be amazing if Wyden comes through for her. He was so nasty yesterday. Everybody was like, he looks like a waxy, pallid funeral director. And I was like, that's it exactly. But today he was like, oh, my BFF.

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All right, let's talk about Kash Patel, who spicy fireworks. He was given as good as he was getting that they don't. They don't like him. The Democrats don't like him. It wasn't going badly for him with the Republicans, which is really what he cares about. We kicked it off. Actually, Senator Tillis, who's a Republican, had a funny moment that went viral on X. And you'll see why. Here it is.

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Okay, so I love that, the Kash Patel bingo card. And true to form, that's how it sounded. I'm going to kick it off with an exchange Kash had with Amy Klobuchar, a Democrat of Minnesota, and she ran for president not long ago, and he really was not taking her, trying to give him the business. Watch.

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OK, so a couple of things I observe there. Grassley, who's 88, is still really strong. Listen to him yelling at her at the end, like, get off my lawn, you angry lady. And she she was like those Democrat women at the at the Pete Hegseth hearing, like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. should have been punctuated with a boom. You could see him kind of doing it too, like boom, go. It was fun to watch.

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I don't think they laid a glove on him, but it wasn't for lack of trying, Glenn.

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Yes. So on that subject, Dick Blumenthal of Connecticut, he comes out there trying to suggest that he hold on a second to make sure I get it. I can't find it on my SOT list, you guys, but it's the one where he's pushing him about whether he's going to protect FBI agents against retribution. Do we have that? Stand by as we get our act. Oh, so that's SOT 21. Yeah, here it is, SOT 21.

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Yeah, if they misused their power, if they abused their power, they're gone. Finally, there will be some accountability. It's not a political payback. It's you're horrid. You're trying to destroy this nation. Goodbye. Go find another job.

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I really enjoyed the exchange about what's going to happen with the FBI HQ, because, you know, politicians like Ron DeSantis and others and Trump, but explicitly DeSantis made this a big issue. I've been saying we need to get the FBI out of Washington. This is not the place for this building. They need to, you know, touch grass, one of those kinds of things.

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And this came up in response to a questioning by Chris Coons, who's a Democrat from Delaware, with cash. Take a listen to SOT19.

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Again, Cash could have finished with boom. But, you know, he's telling him what he means. And this pushing back on relocating the FBI HQ is ridiculous. They love to go through and find the silly podcast rhetoric, like the bellicose language. This is like another J.D. Vance childless cat lady, right? Like you said something provocative.

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Well, here he is, like telling you everything you want to know. And I really think he got Coons to stand down there.

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I hope President Trump picks up the phones and, you know, put some pressure on these Republican senators to stand by him and give him the cabinet. He's asked for. They're not a rubber stamp. It's true, they're not. But the president has a clear agenda, and that agenda does speak to exactly this strain. He definitely ran on this.

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And so if this is your objection to his nominee, you're not going to like the next one either. I don't think Trump's going to abandon these kinds of promises to remake the FBI, certainly, or to bring radical change to HHS with his next nominee. So, you know, we'll see whether they get— these guys out. I certainly hope not.

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I really hope Tulsi gets through, and I think RFKJ is going to get through, depending on this Senator Cassidy. We'll talk with that about Cali Means next. Glenn, thank you.

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Robert F. Kennedy Jr. back on the hot seat today on Capitol Health. Do you believe they made him do this twice? I don't totally understand why, to be honest, but he had to go in front of that was that was finance yesterday. And now today was the Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions. HHS is just so big. It answers to both.

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This committee is the committee will not vote on the nomination in order for it to go to the full floor for a vote. That's going to fall over to the Senate Finance Committee. which RFKJ appeared before yesterday and we covered for you in yesterday's show. But these Republicans matter. So they're all showing their hands a bit on whether they might actually vote for him. And we care.

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We especially care if they're Republicans. And we especially, especially care when we're looking at Louisiana Senator Bill Cassidy, who is a Republican and who, in my own view, yesterday did not appear exactly warm toward RFKJ. Keep in mind, Trump can lose three, but not four Republican senators. He already got hosed by Murkowski, Collins, and McConnell on Hegseth.

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The odds of them not tanking him on his more controversial nominees, which in some ways RFKJ is, are slim. And so they cannot They cannot lose Bill Cassidy. So are they going to? So he was the chairman of the committee before which RFKJ appeared today. And he, as the chairman and the ranking member always do, gave his own opening remarks and spoke openly about some of his reservations.

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Senator Cassidy, who was a physician before entering politics, also told the story about the worst day of his career, treating a young woman in liver failure due to hepatitis B. He told Kennedy $50 in vaccines would have prevented this. And then the two of them, Senator Cassidy and RFKJ, had a very tense back and forth regarding the measles and the hep B vaccine and autism concerns.

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Now, at the end of this hearing, Senator Cassidy made clear he is still unsure, still unsure about his vote for RRKJ, saying my responsibility is to learn If you can be trusted to support the best public health, you may be hearing from me over the weekend. What does that mean? Lift the dress up, Senator. Show us all. Callie Means is one of RFKJ's top advisors.

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He's truly one of the reasons why he's even been chosen for this role. And he is one of, if not the, founding member of the whole Maha movement. He's the man responsible for the Trump-RFKJ alliance. He and Tucker, I would say, are the two. And when RFKJ endorsed Donald Trump last summer, he mentioned Kelly in his speech.

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Right on. Callie's a former food and pharmaceutical consultant. He was on the inside, you see, and then realized what they were doing to us and has been working to save us all ever since. He entered that industry with good intentions, trying to shape policy, but realized something was deeply, deeply wrong. Callie joins me now for the first time on the show. Callie, what a pleasure.

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Oh, gosh, likewise. I'm such a huge fan of yours. So I saw you yesterday, but I didn't see any of the hearing today. My team pulled some great sound bites. Didn't see any of it today because I was with Rubio and then Tulsi. So you've sat through it all. How did today differ from yesterday, and how are you feeling?

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I mean, didn't see the airplane. I guess we have to rule that in as a possibility, Wiz, because you can hear the controller saying, forgive me for not having the exact quote, but can you see the plane? And the answer was yes. And then the collision happened seconds thereafter. It was something like 7 to 10 seconds thereafter.

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We have that. Let me play it. And then you take it on the back end. Watch.

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So we don't know, you know, the instruction, the question is a little vague. You know, which plane? It must have been obvious to the air traffic controller, but we don't know that it was obvious to the helicopter pilot.

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Can I just say that? Because I had a very visceral reaction to that soundbite. That's the first I've heard that. And I really feel like how dare he try to extract that statement from RFKJ. I mean, there are millions of Americans who who either are personally or their children have been vaccine injured based on different vaccine experiences. It doesn't mean the vaccine's always unsafe.

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It does depend on the person sometimes. But how dare he try to get him to say out loud. Vaccines are safe. And I favor vaccine. Well, like which vaccines? The COVID vaccine? Because I can tell you, I, along with a lot of other Americans, have had very negative experiences with that. And I would be outraged if I heard him issue such a sweeping declaration.

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I mean, as you well know, is it safe for a 15-year-old boy who, you know, might have a heart murmur? Senator Cassidy, why should RFKJ say it is? Kids could get killed. Like that's a crazy thing he tried to get him to say at the end there. And I'm glad RFKJ won't do it.

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And the American pediatrics is a big vaccine pusher on the covid vaccine. They were every at every turn. They're they're big on the trans thing. They're big on the the covid vaccine. There's a long list I've learned. And I think a lot of people have during covid. Do not trust them.

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Instead, what we got was an obsession with measles. I mean, like, they were really – none of this was discussed unless Bobby – He intentionally seized the mantle to try to inject it into the conversation. And Senator Ron Johnson did a great idea or did a great job of allowing him to express his ideas. It was all about measles, about such small ball nonsense, Callie.

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You're outlining we are in the midst of a massive public health crisis. People at home... Everybody experiences it like it's just them. It's just their mom. It's just like they made bad choices. They have chronic obesity. Oh, well, I have bad luck.

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Like what you and your sister Casey and RFKJ and others in this movement have done such a good job of is connecting the dots and saying you're not alone. Look at the numbers. There are millions, tens of millions of Americans suffering. Someone needs to care about investigating why this.

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And by the way, forgive me for interrupting, but President Trump is on record as saying he's not going to touch the MMR vaccine. And Bobby will listen to Trump that he made that clear. So it's not in danger. Keep going.

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I'm absolutely devastated for these 67 families now who have the most horrific experiences experience in front of them and now behind them of waiting in the airport to see if there's any sort of good news coming out of this awful tragedy. And then late last night, we were told it was a recovery mission.

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Yeah. Now, I want to tell the audience, with respect to Senator Cassidy, who needs encouragement to vote yes on Bobby Kennedy, call his office. Do so respectfully. Don't be nasty. We don't have nasty audience members.

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But just call and express in the clearest, most strong terms you can find how important it is to you, especially if you live in Louisiana, how important it is to you that he support Bobby Kennedy. And here's the number for his D.C. office. 202- 224-5824, 202-224-5824, 224-5824, 224-5824.

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Call there and please make clear, especially if you live in Louisiana, how important it is to you that he support Bobby Kennedy. I mean, there's so much that hangs in the balance with him. And the media attacks on him have been so unfair, Callie. The Democrats attacks on him were so unfair. I think Senator Cassidy is an honest broker. He didn't go to the totally unfair places.

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He's just very focused on the vaccine thing. But he he seems to be controlled by it right now.

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Just to make clear, again, the number is 202-224-5824. That's his D.C. office, 202-224-5824. I know it's asking a lot. It kind of is to ask somebody to pick up the phone, make a call, say something kind of plaintiff, something that may not be well-received, although I'm sure they'll be very respectful there. But it's for the health of your children. It's for your own health.

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It's for the health of your mom and your dad as they go into their golden years. We need we need to try this. That's how I feel. I feel really strongly about this one. We have to try this. It is an inflection point. And if we don't get him in, I don't know when it will be.

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I mean, I think Trump will appoint somebody who is generally aligned with some of these views, but not somebody like him who cannot be pushed around and who has a lifetime of. of taking on these industries who seems to almost enjoy it. Like, that's kind of what you need. You can't have a witherer. You know, that's the great thing about Trump. Well, he's not a witherer. He will stand up for us.

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So, Callie, and by the way, I think we're going to get three for the price of one because he's very close with Callie and Dr. Casey Means, and it would be great to have them advising. I'll give you the last word. Go ahead.

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Thank you for everything, Callie. Thanks for being here and to be continued. Wow. We are so lucky to have him. I mean, he and his sister, you know, his sister's Dr. Casey Means who came on with her book, Good Energy, and then Times Thereafter. But he doesn't have to be doing this. Callie, I think, went to Stanford and Harvard. She went to double Stanford.

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Like they've received the most elite educations. They were accepted in the most elite circles. And they both said, we don't give a damn. This industry, these industries are killing people. The things we thought were helping people are killing them and no one's talking about it. And so they've made it their mission to help the rest of us, which is what brought them, you know, into RFK's world.

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And now they're willing to work for us. They're willing. They've spent their adult lives studying what's wrong. What is the FDA doing? Why aren't the medicine, the drug companies working to actually develop cures? Who should we distrust the most?

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Well, how can we solve FDA to actually work for the people instead of just grease the skids for their entry into the private sector so they can build a nice beach house? What's going on with our water supply? How can we protect ourselves until we actually... clean up the actual supply. How can I prioritize maha-ing my life?

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What are the three things I can do if I have no budget to try to help make my maha lifestyle happen? What foods at a minimum should I avoid? Where can I go? It's not Whole Foods. It's not Trader Joe's. It's the kind of foods you're like, make it easy for me. That's what they want to do. What we have right now is a government that's trying to make it harder and truly is working to make you sick.

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There's no other conclusion if you look at the number of things they're doing. And this could be the before and after moment. Senator Cassidy, please, please, please do the right thing. I'll call you too. I don't live in Louisiana, but maybe you want to hear from me. Maybe not, but I'm going to call anyway. I'm going to do it, you guys. I hope you do it too. 202-224-5824.

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Spare 90 seconds and make that call. and see if we can get him over the finish line. Thanks to all of you. What a busy week, right? And we're not done yet. We're going to be back tomorrow with Charlie Kirk. I will now begin my journey back north. Wish me luck and much love to all of you. Talk to you tomorrow. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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Mm hmm. Can you guys explain? I don't know, John, maybe this is for you, but can you explain what we're seeing in that video that we just played? Because, I mean, if you look at it closely, you can see what appears to be the plane, the regional jet, the American jet in the front. And then there there does appear to be another aircraft. I'm assuming it's the helicopter, but I don't know.

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Coming from behind, like almost it looks almost like it's chasing the plane. But I don't know that that's the helicopter.

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But see, yes, there's something approaching it. So that's not the helicopter. That's a different airplane. Yeah.

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So night vision goggles would not be good. I've never worn them, so I don't know. But you would not want those on the helicopters.

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They did not believe at any point thereafter that they actually could save anyone, which seemed clear with a helicopter slamming into a regional American Airlines jet. I mean, it was a fireball in the sky. And here in D.C., we were in our hotel room, Abby and I, And in downtown DC, you could hear the sirens, one after the other after the other.

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So do we think, Wiz, that this was does it look to you at this point like helicopter pilot error? Because what I'm seeing on the screen and what I'm hearing from you guys isn't really looking at the pilot of that regional jet so much as, you know, what was this helicopter doing?

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It feels like the helicopters should not be allowed anywhere near the path of these commercial aircraft. though I realize they've been doing it a lot without any incidents. So it's like, okay, just because one went bad doesn't say it should all be banned. But John, is there some minimum required distance that they're supposed to keep when they're in the airspace?

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey, everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. Today, our exclusive interview with the 72nd Secretary of State, Marco Rubio. This is his first long-form sit-down. He said it was his first interview since taking on the new role just over one week ago.

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So you can just say, hey, look, the boss has said exactly how he feels. Believe him.

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The New York Times said, okay, you guys got away with this with Columbia, but you're not going to be able to pull that trick with... Russia, with China, with Iran. If you try to sort of bully these stronger nations in this way, it's not going to go very well. Is that a fair point?

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There's so much I want to go over, like the change between the Senate and here, how you're, you know, what's it like to be at the heart of the deep state? But let me start with the plane crash.

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There's a large delta. What about, you mentioned China. Did you recently have a call with the foreign minister? The foreign minister. And there was a report that you were, you received a sort of warning that you needed to basically watch yourself.

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But we're going to address it. Well, that brings us, we have more on China, but that brings us to Panama, where you're about to go. And China's obviously playing a role down there and is one of the reasons why Trump has been saying, President Trump has been saying, we want the canal back. We never intended to give it to the Chinese. That was never the game plan.

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They don't technically control the Panama Canal, but they do have interest down there. Can you explain it so people can understand it?

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I mean, are there these Chinese control or Chinese businesses along the canal, very large ones that could easily be turned into military facilities? Do they have to get rid of them? What are the kinds of things we could ask for that would satisfy us?

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There too, like you mentioned with Colombia, is there a risk if we play too hardball, we drive them into the arms of the Chinese?

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People need to understand that Panama is not exactly about Panama. It's about the Chinese, which you've been jumping up and down about for a while, warning that people may not realize just how grave the threat is. And you said something, I think it was at your confirmation hearing, to the effect of if China gets what it wants in 10 years or so, life could look very different. Maybe even faster.

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Does it underscore at all why President Trump needs his nominees confirmed quickly?

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So, I mean, it's a dicey situation. President Trump knows all this. Yes. And yet one of the top Chinese leaders attended his inauguration. He understands that it has to be played very carefully. We don't want to make an open hot war enemy out of them, but we've been passive for too long.

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So there was a conference call between President Trump and the Danish prime minister. Apparently it didn't go very well. It reportedly involved some sort of a meltdown on the prime minister's part. They don't want to give it up. So what options does that leave us? Because President Trump did not rule out economic or potentially military use.

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So when President Trump said he might use economic or military coercion, what does that mean?

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Yeah, God forbid we had something happen on an international basis. You're installed, but Tulsi's, you know, that could take a while and there's been a little foot dragging. All right, so you've been in the job now for eight days. What's the biggest difference between being a U.S. Senator and being the Secretary of State?

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We talked about Colombia. That's part of President Trump's effort to shore up our borders and get rid of the illegal aliens who came under Joe Biden. Part of that's going to include Yes, Canada, he's said that as well, but also obviously Mexico.

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And President Trump is threatening to slap tariffs on both of them if they don't get in line and start doing some of the things that we want them to do as soon as this Saturday. They're jumping up and down saying, we wanna cooperate, let's work diplomatically before you slap tariffs on us. Where do you stand on that?

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But what are the risks to us? Because you've got the Premier of Ontario saying we can't bring a knife to a gunfight here. If they're going to do this to us with these tariffs, we've got to fight back the same way. We supply them with a bunch of electricity. Let's shut it down. So can Canada shut our lights off?

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One of those issues that's become dicey within the Republican Party is NATO, which we've talked a lot about these other countries doing their fair share and doing their part. And this is why NATO has become controversial, because there are many people who believe, what are we doing this for? I mean, it made sense right after World War II, but does it make sense today?

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And the United States tends to be the dominant player. The Europeans can support themselves. They don't need the United States to be the big babysitter of the world. And it creates more opportunities for us to get involved in foreign conflicts that we shouldn't be involved in. To that, you say what?

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manner in the alliance and then it'll be a stronger alliance and it'll be able to work cooperatively not just in europe but in other challenges we face around the world hopefully even the indo-pacific potentially ukraine's another issue that's got the party divided you know you've got um a lot i'm sticking with the republicans now because there's a whole other debate with the other side of the aisle but who say no you know putin's a bad actor russia's a growing threat and we're doing the right thing by backing ukraine

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and I would say the majority of Republicans now are against that viewpoint and think we've spent too much. It's any place from $105 billion to $187 billion, and they've lost. We just have to be realistic about the fact that Ukraine has lost. It's not going to gain back any of this ground, and we need a negotiated settlement now before we keep throwing good money after bad, and we can't afford it.

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We've got Americans who are suffering now. I think that's the majority view, even on the Republican side now.

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Of all the Trump 2.0 nominees, he's the only one so far who gained, I mean, entirely bipartisan support, passing unanimously by the Senate with a 99-0 vote. and as the only nominee to receive a vote on day one of the second Trump administration. On the eve of his first foreign trip as Secretary of State, interestingly, to Panama, we get into everything.

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Who's the bigger problem? in reaching a final negotiated settlement there, right? Is it Putin or is it Zelensky? There's a report out that the Ukrainians are just banking on Putin, digging his heels in and becoming annoying to President Trump on this because he won't give an inch.

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And they're hoping that President Trump will come back over closer to their worldview about Putin, about Russia, about this conflict. So who do you see as the bigger obstacle into getting a negotiated peace there?

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I asked him, I asked him, why do you do it? When I interviewed him and he said, I give the people what they want.

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And then there's Israel and the return of the hostages, which still include Americans. Right. Supposedly, we're going to get three Americans back in the first tranche, the first phase of this hostage deal. Do you believe we will? And what are we going to do if we don't?

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You know, in the wake of that plane crash, I had to wonder last night whether their predecessors from the prior administration were calling Pete Hegseth, were calling Sean Duffy. Have you spoken with Anthony Blinken at all? Was there any sort of good tidings sent your way?

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Domestically, Trump pulled the security around Mike Pompeo, who was his secretary of state. And I wonder if that, what your reaction was to that, because his defenders are saying it's an outrage and that, you know, he looks back now.

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On the subject of risk assessment, we pulled U.S. foreign aid, we paused U.S. foreign aid with humanitarian exceptions and then there was a bunch of negative blowback on how this was stopping critical medications and other humanitarian aid that was being provided to our third world allies. Now we've loosened that spigot again.

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So the criticism is that we got too far ahead of our skis by pulling too much too soon. in response to what you said?

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I'm going to wrap it up, but I do want to ask you about just a couple more things. Number one, Eight years ago, you and I were across from each other on a debate stage. Donald Trump was center stage, and he was insulting both of us. And things have really changed in eight years. Can you talk about that evolution for you?

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You gave it back to him just as good, and I gave him a few punches too. So it was fair game. We were both fair game back when that was happening. It was almost 10 years ago now, that debate, that August 15 debate. I mentioned at the top of the interview flippantly the deep state thing.

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You know, it is a real concern for a lot of people that there's like a group of people at state and elsewhere who will actively work to undermine your agenda and President Trump's.

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But what about just since you took the job? Does he give you a letter in the way that Biden left my first job? He did.

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Pretty cool. Your parents were from Cuba. They immigrated here in the late 1950s, I think. Your dad was a janitor. May 27th, 1956. Your mom works in a hotel as a maid. And here you are, Secretary of State. Final thought on what that says about the United States of America.

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Those dreams have led you to this position and soon to Panama, where we need you. You've got an important job. Good luck. Thank you. Thanks for doing this. Great to see you again. A lot of fun. Thank you. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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It's such a tricky time to be Secretary of State, especially as a Republican, because you look at the Republican Party and it's fractured internally about where we should be on foreign policy. It's not like during the Bush years where it was, you know, we were much more neoconny on the right.

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And now there's a real division within the right, within MAGA even on how, what should we do about Ukraine? Most of the party, I think, wants nothing to do with that anymore. What kind of saber rattling should we be doing about Iran? There's a large strain that believes none. We should be focused on China and we should stop demonizing Iran and Russia and keep our eye on our biggest threat.

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I know you think they're our biggest threat as well. So how, just give me the 30,000 foot level view of how you're gonna navigate that fraction.

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We go to Greenland, we talk China, we talk Iran, Israel, and we do get into the deep state. Enjoy. Grand Canyon University, a private Christian university in beautiful Phoenix, Arizona, believes that we are endowed by our creator with certain unalienable rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. GCU believes in equal opportunity and that the American dream starts with purpose.

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How do you think, we did in the last administration, because Jake Sullivan, former National Security Advisor, now former, under Joe Biden said, our alliances are now stronger, as they left office, our adversaries and our competitors are weaker, Russia's weaker, Iran's weaker, China's weaker, and all the while we kept America out of wars. What's your response to that?

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I'm just wondering, as I listen to you, whether you think Joe Biden's mental infirmity, which we all witnessed, especially during his last year in office, cost us anything with these adversaries.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. Is everyone nursing their Liberation Day hangover? I just, okay. There's going to be a bunch of tariffs. Pretty much everyone is against it.

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So Trump is jacking up tariffs on Japan, not necessarily based on their tariffs, but based on a trade deficit because of regulations they've put in place that make it impossible for us to compete over there in the way they can here. That's what he's trying to rectify. The defenders of the free trade world say, yes, all of that sounds good on paper. The unfairness is a very easy argument to make.

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There's so much in there that everything you said is brilliant and important. The Black Lives Matter Plaza in Washington, D.C. was just scrubbed and taken down. Here we are five years later, right? Almost exactly five years later, right? George Floyd was the end of May in 2020. And what did that group accomplish? What the number of cancellations that they pushed for, you know, that all about cops.

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It was all about what these allegedly racist cops were doing coast to coast, just hunting black men. Right. Isn't that how LeBron put it? This, what's happening with the lack of fathers in several black homes, not every black home, and this isn't about black people. There are black people listening to this show right now who are as outraged over this as we are.

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But there is a problem with fatherless homes in a large portion of the black community. And where is the push on that? Where would these black leaders, Patricia Cullors and the others, to try to do something about that, which actually would have helped black kids and all kids have a safer future?

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It's not totally dissimilar from what happened with the Nashville shooter, that woman who went into a lower school and killed six people at the Covenant School in Nashville, March 27th, 2023. We don't say the name of the mass shooters here, but it was a woman who was having gender issues dysphoria and was trying to become a male or wanted people to think of her as a male.

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And this was the case in which our audience may remember. They refused to release the manifesto. They said it would be too disturbing. It would be too dangerous. And then about a year plus ago, Stephen Crowder got his hands on at least a piece of the manifesto and released it.

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But net net, we're still the strongest economy in the world because of our free trade. We actually don't make a lot of things domestically and won't start to just because of this plan. And that this is going to cause what's called stagflation, where inflation goes up and the economy slows. And eventually we could see job losses. They're predicting all doom and gloom.

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And this woman had all these bizarre trans fantasies involving having male sex, like she would be the male with her stuffed animals and how if she would just go up to heaven after committing all these murders, she was sure God would put her in a boy body, completely whitewashed. Like the media did not want it. The cops, nobody wanted to talk about the trans element of this woman's

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craziness of her insanity. And now they finally concluded their investigation on this Covenant school killer. And they release a 48-page report, which does not include the word trans. It does not include the word trans. It has other passing references to some gender issues, but it's completely downplayed. It's like it was, you know, basically not relevant to it. This is...

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A little bit of the reporting, despite needing more than two years to complete its investigation, the the police department confirmed that this person acted alone. And during the attack, during the attack itself, no one around the killer had knowledge that she was planning the attack, although her parents knew she had thoughts about killing her father.

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They found that her parents, her mental health providers and the firearm retailers who sold her the weapons bore no responsibility and had no prior knowledge of her plans. And now they stay in this conclusion that she didn't leave behind a manifesto, Michael, because it wasn't laid out in one single document. that there's all sorts of justification for this. Listen to this.

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They write, early in the investigation, it was suggested that this shooter left behind a manifesto detailing her motives and intentions. By definition, a manifesto is a mission statement or other document written and disseminated by an individual or group to enumerate or expound upon the guiding principles and beliefs that inform their actions.

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Regardless of length, a manifesto is a single document that outlines all the factors, intentions, and objectives of an individual act or a series of actions. In this case, a manifesto did not exist. The shooter never left behind a single document explaining why she committed the act, why she specifically targeted the covenant, and what she hoped to gain, if anything, with the attack. Really?

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Now that's, now they've been saying for two years that it would be too dangerous. They didn't think we could handle it. It's too disturbing. Now suddenly it's, oh, it didn't exist because it was in the form of multiple documents and not just one.

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I feel like we're looking at parallel stories in a way here where the shooter, the killer is in a protected group about whom you are not allowed to say certain things or ask certain questions.

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Why don't we give them a chance? Why don't we see how this changes things? Because over the last 25 years, our manufacturing industry has been gutted. It's been sliced in half. In half. You know, I heard Adam Carolla talking about this the other day, and it was a good point. He said, as you know, half of L.A. burned. And he was like, you know who's out rebuilding it? Men.

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But let me just ask the people who are literally talking about a so-called trans person who killed six, three six year olds and three adults. It's absolutely factual in the case that we are discussing at this moment. Please keep going.

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The just before we leave this subject, here's just a couple of statements that Stephen Crowder reported on when he broke this story last year that did not did not wind up in the police report that this shooter had written. Can't believe I'm doing this, but I'm ready. I hope my victims aren't.

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quote, kill those kids, quote, going to fancy private schools with those fancy khakis and sports backpacks with their daddy's Mustangs and convertibles, quote, want to kill all you little crackers, bunch of little faggots with your white privileges. Now, I'm sorry, but there is absolutely no reason why the final report should not include those statements. Here's more.

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The Tennessee Star reported on some of what was found in the manifesto documents, but not in the police report. The shooter wrote extensively about documents. gender identity, her gender identity, including a three-page entry the killer titled My Imaginary Penis, in which she wrote about expressing sexual fantasies with stuffed animals.

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I can pretend to be them and do the things boys do and experience my boy self. God, I'm such a pervert. I waste too much time in my fantasies. The shooter wrote a political rant in an entry dated one month prior in which she complained the U.S. fails to respect the rights of disabled people, gun owners, and transgender people.

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So now because of you, I wish death on myself because of the pure hatred of my female gender. Quote, if God won't give me a boy body in heaven, then Jesus is a faggot. Forgive me for these words. I can't be happy. I'm meant to die.

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How does this not wind up in the... We cannot have the realities of these people who wind up committing individual murders or mass murders, whitewashed for some sake of being sensitive to their particular... And by the way, one of the things that we also learn about the shooter that's not shocking is she was on the autism spectrum.

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And the reason I say it's not that people on the spectrum murder, it's that a lot of kids on the spectrum... go down the gender rabbit hole. They tend to have the patience for a three-hour session on Reddit. They can have obsessive thinking. And so they're particularly vulnerable to these online social media traps that are laid for kids who are not trans to start believing that they are.

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Men in excavators and dump trucks with bulldozers and shovels and bricklayers. Men like that are going to rebuild the Palisades. Men who nobody in the Palisades probably gives two shits about. That's the truth.

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It's really no surprise to those of us who cover these stories a lot that this young woman had some sort of autism spectrum disorder and wound up getting sucked into this cult. It happens time and time again. Another thing you're not allowed to say. Another thing we may get censored for. It's just sick and tired of it, Michael. I know you are too. I've seen you get attacked.

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I mean, I've seen what's happened to you. And you were on the early edge of this. You know, I just... I'm really sick and tired of it. I care. I'm going to be honest. I care more about the life of the innocent kid who Metcalfe who got killed than I do about these kids who have murder on their minds. I also care about them.

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But I just have to say, like, I'm not so sensitive that I can't discuss what really led to the murders. I'm really thinking more about preventing the next murder. Here is the brother, the twin brother of the boy just killed in Frisco, Texas.

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Oh, that's the twin brother that Austin Metcalf is the kid, the 17 year old killed. That's his brother Hunter, whose life has been devastated. I mean, it's not even just about the loss of Austin.

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It's about what happened to Hunter as the eyewitness and the twin brother and what happened to the dad, Jeff, who's already searching for forgiveness, but very capable of identifying some of the risks here. There's another story. It's not exactly the same, but it's, It dovetails. There is, for lack of a better term, a teacher sex scandal unfolding in Chicago.

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And the tape of this woman has gone everywhere. And I understand why. Trust me. I worked at Fox News for 14 years. There wasn't a teacher sex scandal we didn't cover there. But there's some level of depravity in our society. I mean, that's really what we're talking about. There's some level of depravity and in some cases mental illness.

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Well, there are a lot of those guys in this country who've seen what they know how to do best absolutely devastated by a globalist agenda that cares more about free trade than they do about our own American guys. And Trump is of a different ilk. And he's never stopped thinking about these guys.

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And this woman, while, yes, she's a woman, so technically in one of the favored classes, that's not what this story is about. She is getting some press coverage. But there's something wrong with a woman, as she's accused of doing, who has—well, they're accusing her of raping a 15-year-old student. No one is saying that her student, who she allegedly raped—

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sex without consent was special ed, but she was a special ed teacher at the school. So I don't know whether he was or he wasn't, but he was 15 years old. It happened in 2023. Reportedly that student's mother found disturbing text messages between the two of them when she logged onto her son's iCloud account after she bought him a new phone. Um,

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He was a soccer player that she coached and she was also tutoring this young man. And the mother, of course, went bullshit when she found the text messages. So this woman gets pulled over. There's a couple of pieces of tape here. She gets pulled over by police with her husband in the passenger seat. She's in the driver's seat a couple of days ago. Here's a bit of that.

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Of course. OK, so she's very angry that the husband can't come with her. She's arrested, not really understanding what she's arrested for, supposedly. I mean, OK, how many crimes had she committed? Because that one should have been pretty obvious and on the nose. And then there's tape later where it's dawning on her what she's in trouble for and what's about to happen to her. Here it is.

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What we won't see is the video of this boy's mother crying at night in her bed, I am sure, the night she discovered that this had happened to her son. I have a 15-year-old. They're young. They are not yet men. They are... Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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Reportedly, he read Rick Santorum's book on the manufacturing crisis and what we did to our own before he ran for president. It was basically Rick Santorum's platform when he ran for president and won Iowa a few years before Trump came on the national scene. And I don't think he's ever lost that. There are trips.

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There are clips of Trump back when he was in his 40s talking about we need tariffs and thinking about the more working class manufacturers of America. So this is something near and dear to his heart. We have never in recent history given it a good try. And I think we need to be patient with the president who ran very much on this, very much on this and deserves a shot. That's the tariffs.

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OK, there's a lot of other things going on. There's some really disturbing cultural stories that I want to get into because they say a lot about where we are later in the show. I'm going to be joined by Anna Kasparian of the Young Turks. But we begin today with Michael Knowles. He's hosted the Michael Knowles show over on The Daily Wire. Tariff wars, stubborn inflation.

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Plus, it's like when you're going to hijack a pre-existing term in the English language, like they, them, and try to make it mean something totally different. Yeah, you're probably going to have some explaining to do.

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Yeah. Listen, it's a pleasure to see you, my friend. This is a disturbing string of news, but an important one. We've got to keep an eye on ourselves. Michael Knowles, thank you, sir.

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That's promo code Megan, and visit fysi.com slash Megan, or call 800-877-4000 today for your free $5,000 risk assessment. Welcome back to The Megyn Kelly Show. Joining me now, someone from the other side of the aisle, Anna Kasparian. She's host and executive producer of The Young Turks. Anna, welcome back. Great to see you. All right.

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So this could be your future as somebody who is not necessarily in the Donald Trump fan club. I don't see you in the red hat. You too, if you know Kid Rock at all, or even I think I could do it, could get invited to the White House to sit down with Donald Trump. He brought Bill Maher. He was on Bill Maher's show. He convinced Bill Maher to go to the White House to the satisfaction of no one.

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There's a strain of diehard MAGA that is open-minded to doing something in a different way because while the system has worked well for the top 1%, it hasn't been working that great for the folks in the Rust Belt. I, for one, say we give President Trump a chance.

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No one wanted to see this. It's kind of like when Mika and Joe went to Mar-a-Lago. And Bill did it, even though he really doesn't like Donald Trump. And he says he's going to talk about it on his show. I guess he's off this Friday, but I guess the following Friday.

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But in the meantime, we're getting a flavor for what went down because Kid Rock went on Fox and Friends the next morning and said this.

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Amazing. And by the way, it was also added that Maher showed up with a list of terrible things that Trump had said about Maher. And he showed it, I guess, to President Trump, who signed it and gave it back to him. Wow. Classic. Classic. Anyway. Yeah. So what do you make of it? Because the left is very unhappy with Bill for doing this.

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I don't know that the right is loving it either, but I think they're used to Trump doing this now because he's had a parade of liberals come to him from big tech people to media people. So what's your take on it?

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It took us decades to get into the tangled mess they're trying to unpack now in D.C. How long is it going to take to get out of it and at what cost? Text MK to 989898 today. Michael, welcome back. Oddly, I don't want to start with tariffs because I think I've summed it up accurately. And if you really want to do a deep dive into tariffs, there's probably a lot of places you can go for it.

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Do you think, I know Bill loosely, I've been on his show many times. I really do think he can't stand President Trump. I mean, he truly has got like a sincere case of the TDS, but he did this, which was extraordinary. So do you think there's any chance he comes out liking Trump?

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I'll tell you a funny story of how I met Kid Rock. It was 15 years ago. I was hosting an afternoon show on Fox called America Live. And I would go through the show email while on the air, like during the commercial breaks and the audience would write in and you kept it interactive. And an email popped up.

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saying it was from Kid Rock and that he was in town in New York that night for his birthday and was wondering if Doug, my husband, and I could come. And it said where the party was. And it just had the ring of truth because it was specific. It had Doug's name. But I was also like, this has got to be bullshit. So I forwarded it to my booker and I was like, can you see if this is real?

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Because I actually am a fan of Kid Rock's. And so she got back to me and said, it's real. So that night, Doug and I went to this little bar that Kid Rock was having his birthday party in. We walked in, he was sitting there, he looked at me, he goes, holy shit, it worked. Yeah. and we became friends ever after. So I really like him a lot.

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And he's, listen, he's gone, you know, he's very pro-Trump now and he's MAGA, but he really was a political independent who was very open-minded. I would put him closer to like a Joe Rogan who was maybe in a lot of ways more blue in his politics, but then we all lost our loving minds as a culture. And he's kid rock for God's sake. I mean, there's zero chance that he is going to go woke.

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And that among other issues, I think drove him into the arms of Donald Trump and MAGA.

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What I want to talk about is our country and some stories that are in the news today that are just shocking. And the number one is this poor kid who was murdered down in Texas, in Frisco, Texas, by the name of Austin Metcalfe. It's all over the news today. He was at a track meet in North Texas. I'm just reading here from WFAA.com, a local source there in Frisco, Texas.

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I totally agree with that. And I do think there's a reason for it. I think it's because people who are on the right spend their whole lives dealing with people who disagree with them. You know, that's just society. Well, it's split, you know, 50, 50 or 55, 45, depending on the era, Dem and Republican. And now that Republicans have the edge these days.

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But overall, liberals control the institutions. You know, they've controlled the media for a long time. They control Hollywood. They control big sports. They control big corporations. So if you're a conservative or even just center right, like you have to deal with them everywhere. And K through 12, not to mention college education, my God. Everyone, everyone's liberal and they want you to be too.

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So you either need to like be able to talk the talk or be able to politely engage. And as I always say, not make that the stakes of your friendship, if you're talking about actual friends, you know, because in where I grew up, you'd have no friends if you, if you only waited for conservatives to come into your life, right? Like, I was living on the West side of Manhattan for the past 17 years.

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I wouldn't have a single friend if I waited for it to be all conservatives. And I didn't really want to hang out with my Fox people because while they were fine at work, you know, it's like, you don't want to fill your social life with media people. That's a, you know, that doesn't, that's not where anybody wants to go. So, yeah, I think you're absolutely right. But it's disheartening.

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It's disheartening because, you know, recently I lost a friendship over politics. I mean, at this point in my life, I thought we'd be past that. But as I've gotten more pro MAGA, that's been like a deal breaker for some of my leftist friends.

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Yeah, and Trump's ripped on him too. I mean, it's been a mutual non-admiration society, so perhaps he'll be a thaw. To his credit, Bill Maher is a comedian who still wants to be funny. He does his monologue every week. He rips on both sides. He's genuinely looking to make people laugh, and he's really good at it. Okay, so do we take this over into the field of romance, though?

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Our general mutual philosophy of... Don't rule out somebody as a friend or somebody you'd speak to because of their politics. Because there's this viral video, I'm sure you saw it going around on the internet. I saw it on X, but I'm sure it's on Insta and TikTok and all of them, of this liberal woman who says she broke up with her boyfriend over politics.

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And this has engendered so many strong feelings in the comments section. Wherever it gets posted, here's a bit of it in Sat 38.

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He was, okay, it happened around 10 a.m. at a university down there. Frisco High School. Sorry, it was a Frisco High School track meet, but it happened at a university championship track meet. And it was being held with these independent schools present. The victim who died was 17-year-old Austin Metcalf. He was a student attending Frisco's Memorial High School.

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Virtually every man I follow on X has the same response. Dodged a bullet there, man. Congrats. Can I just, before we get to the substance of I won't date a guy who doesn't show my politics. she's extremely unlikable. She's caustic. She's smug. She's, she said there's an arrogance to her. Like it's my way or the highway. I know better.

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I mean, you're disgusting because you don't agree with me politically. Like there's a disdain, even though, you know, half the country disagrees with her politically. A lot of really good, beautiful people disagree with her politically. Why, why is that associated so often with these liberal women who do these posts on, on social media?

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I'll tell you something right now, Anna. He didn't agree with her on social issues. It was a lie. Probably if he's fiscally conservative. he's not in today's social environment, maybe like the social environment of 15 years ago, where the big thing was like gay marriage. Yeah.

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You know, you could be like a pro-choice, pro-gay marriage Republican, like a Rudy Giuliani, but there is zero chance in today's day and age, somebody who says they're fiscally conservative is actually socially liberal too. I don't believe it. So she was right that they had vast differences. I just find her so disdainful and unlikable that

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And women like that are giving like my liberal friends a bad name because she's so nasty and seems to be like playing fast and loose with this guy's feelings like he's a nothing to her just because he has different politics. All right. One more for you on the on the culture front. And this is another woman, and this is going to take us to a place that I've really been dying to discuss.

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This is a woman named Paige Connell. She's a TikTok mom influencer. And she decided to post a very long... I watched five... I gave this woman five minutes of my life, which I'll never get back. It was all about how... She's a working mom. Her husband works too. They have kids. She's very, very unsatisfied with the amount or was of housework and support he was bringing to the home.

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And she really had to lecture him into doing more and then was extremely disappointed when he did not live up to like her expectations. Let me play what we have of it. It's not 39.

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His twin brother, Hunter, was there as well. He went to sit down and found another student in his seat from the sound of it and said, that's my seat or something to that effect. And that other student. reportedly turned around and stabbed him in the heart. This kid who got killed was 17. He had a 4.0. He was a football star. Sorry. And he was dead. It seems very soon thereafter.

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But here's the thing that most men I follow on Twitter are responding to on X. They're offended that a wife would post a diss video about her husband on the Internet in any way, shape or form.

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It reminds me of, not your particular example, but you know, remember the Joy Luck Club? The Joy Luck Club, where one of the four women, it's all about these four moms and then their next gen coming up and the lives that all eight women are leading.

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And the one daughter of the mom is in a marriage where the guy like makes her write down if she ate the tub of ice cream that was in the freezer, because it's going to come off of her share of the grocery money. You know, she ate the ice cream and that's $4 that she now owes. It was so, I mean, it's abusive really is what it is. It's abusive.

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But I do think there's something happening with men and women in, you know, on the conservative side of the aisle that's a little upsetting to me right now. And that is like, as, as we have bent over backwards,

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as conservatives or, you know, right-leaning people to make clear to women that they don't have to quote, have it all that like, if they don't want to work outside of the home and they want to be stay-at-home wives or stay-at-home moms to like doing it all, that's a totally amazing choice and no one should look down on it. It's the most important job in the world.

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It's literally the most important job of the world to be, to be a mother and to raise good children. Um, But like so many things we overcorrect, we do it on the right, the left does it too. And what's happening right now on the right to some extent is it's morphing into, and there's something wrong with somebody who works and the women who work are less attractive and not good partners.

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And also if you choose to work, in like your 20s and your 30s and spend a lot of time at the office, you're effing up your whole life. You're not going to meet a man and you're not going to have a kid, even though that's not necessarily true. It's much easier to meet somebody and have a baby in your 20s because you're young and you got your totally golden eggs.

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But so many women have kids in their 30s, I mean, without fertility help. And we've just sort of gotten to this place on the right where the messaging to me is like, it's making me really uncomfortable.

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But here's what's happening on the right. Young women, and I talk to young conservative women all the time about their lives and their goals and the things that they want. And what's happening is they can't find men who are maybe more conservative. Usually they're looking for somebody who is religious. A lot of conservative women tend to be God-loving conservatives. And

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His twin brother held him as he died and was barely able to speak about it. And The father, who seems like an extraordinary man, Michael, comes out and speaks to the cameras about what happened to his son. Here's a bit of Austin's dad. Take a listen.

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They can't find a lot of young men who want to marry a working woman now. And this is an actual pattern that's coming up on the right. And to me, it's so sad because it's like, how did we get to the point where we're now telling young, conservative, amazing women that they're not attractive if they also work?

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If they choose to, let's say, do what I'm doing and what you're doing and like get their voice out there. But I'll stick with me just because I think conservatives listening to this will like the thought of another Megyn Kelly voice up and coming. well, why wouldn't we want that?

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Why would we take somebody who's talented in this field and really wants to make a difference and have the messaging to her be, you're really not that valuable unless you give it up and go into the home and only have a family and only raise a family. And not only were you sending her that message, but young men are actually believing that. They're actually believing it, especially on the right.

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because like the trad mom has gotten so popular and it's like, no, if we do that, we're not going to have any strong conservative or right-leaning women to provide a role model for younger conservative women who, and there's nothing to apologize for here, don't necessarily want to spend all their twenties and their thirties getting married and having kids or can't, they just weren't able to meet somebody and definitely don't need to be shamed over it.

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Well, thank you for that. I think they'd be fine. But I do think that there's a strain, especially of young women who appreciate seeing a strong conservative woman who's had a voice in this lane and also had a family. You know, like I know now you get shame for saying that you can have it all, but you can. I'm sorry. I'll never say anything different. You can. Yeah. Yes, there are risks. Yes.

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You know, if you, if what's most important to you is to have children and also ideally to be with them, even in your golden years. And sadly, you know, I mean, I had mine when I was older. So that, that clips the time that you'll be old with them and ideally grandchildren in your life, but just didn't work out for me that way. I met my husband, I was 35, but anyway.

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So if you really want to have kids when you're very young, yes, you may have to table career opportunities for a while, but In my case, I just feel like it worked out wonderfully. And all I want people to know is this too is a potential option for you. I do believe if you want it badly enough, you will make it happen. You will make your career happen. You will make your amazing marriage happen.

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Totally. I agree with everything you just said. And I just, my only point is like, don't forget that it's also possible to potentially have it all. I mean, I'm living proof of it. And yes, people say you have money. You're right. That's made it a lot easier. How did I get the money? I earned it. I earned every nickel of it myself. And how did I do that?

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I busted my ass when I was in my twenties and thirties and built a name and a career for myself. I'm sorry, but like, I find it very disempowering to just tell all these women, like, you're really going to have to choose. Look, the reality is if what's your number one thing is to have kids, having them earlier is better because fertility issues would or could kick in later in your thirties.

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Sometimes women don't meet people early enough. I've had so many young girls say to me, and my viewers will email me and say, I would love to have gotten married before now. I didn't meet anybody. So I feel like conservative men need to stop shaming them because so many of them are trying and just aren't able to. But I will say this.

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The tweet that I sent out about you can make your own fortune, you can get your own swanky New York City apartment and also find somebody who wants to be with you on Valentine's Day and have children with you and stay with you was in response to Ashley St. Clair, the Elon alleged baby mama. That was about her because that to me is not an okay choice.

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You want to bang a billionaire and have his kid? Whatever. That's between you and the billionaire. But then you may not play the victim when he doesn't turn out to be Prince Charming on Valentine's Day wanting to spend his day with you. Shock, shock. It's not actually a loving partnership. You know, she clearly wanted to have his child and get on the Elon support program.

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Her earlier tweets make that clear. So she did it. That's it. She got exactly what she bargained for. And I don't feel sorry for her at all that he doesn't want to be a good boyfriend to her and may or may not be dicking her around. I mean, he's claiming he's not, but whatever. That's my point. Yeah.

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I don't even know it's carelessness. I mean, I think it's... In this case, it may have been with Ashley St. Clair, if indeed it's his child. But with the other women, it's... you know Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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That poor man. His name is Jeff Metcalf. Already he's forgiven. It happened yesterday. It's happened Wednesday. They have a suspect in custody identified by police as Carmelo Anthony, a 17-year-old student at Frisco Centennial High School. He was taken into custody on a murder charge. His bond has not yet been set. This guy, Anthony, played football in...

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There's no way he's going to let a bunch of economic pain rain down on the country for the next three and a half years without doing anything about it. He's talking about short-term pain for long-term gain. We got the full announcement last night from Donald Trump about his new tariff plan.

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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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for the school centennial and indicated on social media pages that he had been offered scholarships to play football for several smaller schools. This is just incredible.

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So he had some sort of hope in front of him, the suspect, Carmelo Anthony, that he played football and that on social media, at least, he was claiming that he'd been offered scholarships to play football for several smaller schools.

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And now this other kid who appears to be completely innocent of doing no more than asking to have his seat is dead at age 17 with nothing but promise lying in front of him and in the arms of his own twin brother. There's an element to this that must be mentioned, and that is that the assailant was black and the victim was white.

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One thing that's very obvious to all of us is if the races were reversed, you wouldn't just be hearing about this on this show and a handful of others. It would be blanketing the national airwaves coast to coast. But it's not because, honestly, white boys' lives don't matter. Your thoughts, Michael?

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OK, I like Jimmy Fallon. He's a sweet guy. I can speak to that personally. But the over laughter in response to things that aren't that funny is not a good way. That's a bad tick. Anyway, what do you make of Bill Burr? Suddenly, I guess what? He doesn't want to talk politics anymore.

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Back to the earlier point we were making there, you know, there are. Yeah. Try try living, you know, life in my shoes, Elon shoes, you know, anybody named Trump's shoes. It's like that's all you get. Is it adversarial media with a mic in your face? Right. It's like, why wouldn't you say that's isn't that who he needs to confuse or could convince right of his points?

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Isn't that the group watching Newsmax that he wants to get his message in front of more than anyone about Luigi and what a sympathetic character he is?

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This is one of the reasons why I just sat down with The New York Times. And this and the desire for votes is the reason Kamala Harris went on Fox News with Brett Baier, which was real. We watched it with our own eyes. Didn't go particularly well. But I bring her up because I have to ask you about a report that just hit from courtesy of was it? Let's say it's real clear investigations.

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Yes, Lee Fong. And he revealed that all those brat videos with God, how many do we have? When would you show one? Here's a remix. Saw 24.

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This is the rebranding of Kamala Harris. I love Venn diagrams. Oh, God.

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And what Lee Fong has found is that all of that was bought and paid for.

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Influencers who flooded the web with neon matcha green pro-Harris videos synced to beats from singer Charlie XCX's album Brat last year were quietly funded, quoting here, by an elusive group of Democrat billionaires and major donors in an arrangement designed to conceal the payments from voters, according to real clear investigations obtained by

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Internal documents and WhatsApp messages from Democratic strategists behind the influencer campaign. Way to win. One of the major donor groups behind the effort spent more than 9.1 million on social media influencers during the 24 presidential election. Payments revealed here for the first time. It's amazing.

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I mean, I'm not sure we thought it was organic, but what we're learning more and more is that any piece of praise she got was either purchased or given under duress by people like Barack Obama.

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I mean, it's really unclear. It reminds me of when I was in high school. Some gals like who were younger in high school who didn't know any better started wearing that outfit because they actually thought it had caught on because all these girls were. That's what that's what people who spread the lie. Kamala is brat. That's what happened to you.

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You bought the campaign as real hook, line and sinker and now should feel somewhat embarrassed and go back to your normal tree torn sneakers and palmetto jeans with the stripes in the front. Anna, a pleasure. Again, I hope you'll come back. Thank you. Pleasure speaking with you. We'll see you soon. And we are back tomorrow with Mike and Dave talking about the political legal issues.

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Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda and no fear.

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It's basically 10 percent across the board for all countries and higher on top of that, depending on whether you're tariffing us or if there's some sort of trade deficit between our country and yours, even without tariffs that we find unfair.

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What kind of rage and emptiness, I guess, is in the heart of a boy who would stab another young man in the heart for asking for his seat back? I mean, the hair trigger that would be required there, the bundle of anger and just... Lack of any engagement in society, any commitment to the social contract by which we all live. Right. This is just so beyond the pale, like murders happen.

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And we understand that's a part of life. Unfortunately, people have vendettas against one another. There are serial killers out there. People get angry and overreact. But usually, usually, Michael, you can see the circumstances. You're not justifying it, but you understand, okay, it was manslaughter. It was the heat of passion. Or it was some gang hit. Or it was a mob hit.

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Or it was just some sort of long vendetta between the two. Or it was a cheating spouse. There's something where you don't accept, but you can at least understand. But you see something this vile and empty in meaning. And you do, as that father did, look at the perpetrator and say, how was he raised? Where was his family?

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What was seen or not seen about him before he was unleashed on society to the point where he could do this to an innocent kid he was across from? Who takes out a knife and stabs another in the heart as their first response to an empty or not empty seat?

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Like there are certain regulations, for example, in Japan that make it virtually impossible for us to sell certain cars there because we will never pass the regulations. Is that fair? Is it hard to get a Japanese car in America?

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That's patriotmobile.com slash Megan or just call 972-PATRIOT. Elon Musk obsessed media playing up a supposed scoop yesterday afternoon. Politico fueling speculation about Musk's role in the Trump administration, despite his long scheduled exit, publishing a headline reading, Trump tells inner circle that Musk will leave soon.

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The article describing Mr. Musk stepping back as a recent decision, Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt responding to the claims on X, writing, quote, This scoop is garbage. Elon Musk and President Trump have both publicly stated that Elon will depart from public service as a special government employee when his incredible work at Doge is complete.

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A new Politico report claims Elon Musk is stepping back from his Doge role. But is it really news or just repackaged public info?

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Elon Musk responding to the post, quote, Yeah, fake news. The article coming on the heels of a high-profile election loss in Wisconsin for the Republicans. Mr. Musk and his affiliated groups reportedly contributing more than $20 million in an attempt to flip the state Supreme Court there conservative, ultimately losing by 10 points. On Wednesday, media reveling in the loss and blaming Elon.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Thursday, April 3rd, 2025, and this is your AM Update.

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Political describing Mr. Musk's plans to go as a recent decision by President Trump. However, Mr. Musk's status as a special government employee has a 130-day term limit. Reporting that indicates Mr. Musk will be stepping back in the next few weeks supports the timeline of that 130 days, which would expire on May 30th. Last Thursday, Fox News asking Elon about this very thing.

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The Doge website says it has cut $140 billion in contracts and grants so far. Earlier this week, President Trump offering public support for Mr. Musk.

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President Trump unveils his terror strategy. Ex-Biden officials revealing dramatic behind-the-scenes details from the final days of the former president's campaign. And RFKJ's top advisor faces a crowd of angry lobbyists. And how? Defending his boss's vision for making America healthy again. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update.

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The Doge Commission is set to conclude operations on July 4th of 2026. Even after Mr. Musk's special government employee status ends, political reporting a senior administration official says Mr. Musk is likely to retain an informal role, continuing to be an occasional face around the White House grounds.

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President Trump on Wednesday unveiling his global tariff policy in a Rose Garden speech billed as both Liberation Day and Make America Wealthy Again. After weeks of teasing reciprocal tariffs, the president announcing a scaled back plan.

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The U.S. will impose a baseline of 10% tariffs on all imports with no exceptions. The worst offenders, identified by the President's Council of Economic Advisors, slap with a rate equivalent to half of what they charge the U.S., China, for example, now facing an additional 34% tariff in return for the 67% duty it imposes on American goods. This brings the total Chinese tariff rate to 54%.

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President Trump also imposing a 25% tariff on all foreign-made automobiles, a decision applauded by the United Auto Workers Union. Mr. Trump sharing the podium with UAW member Brian Panabekker.

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Markets taking a slight hit in the after-hours trading, with the biggest losses coming from car companies and smaller businesses that rely on foreign parts and materials. Coming up, former Biden officials reveal stunning details from inside the final days of the former president's campaign.

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Former friends, staffers, and advisors to President Joe Biden dishing to authors about the final tumultuous days of his campaign. In the coming weeks, no fewer than four books will hit the shelves outlining the collapse of the Biden campaign and the Harris team's scramble to fill the void.

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Reporter Chris Whipple lifting the curtain on Biden debate prep with former chief of staff to Joe Biden, Ron Klain. in a book titled Uncharted, How Trump Beat Biden, Harris and the Odds in the Wildest Campaign in History. In the lead up to the Biden-Trump debate, speculation swirling about Mr. Biden's mental acuity.

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Four months earlier, special counsel Robert Herr releasing a report on President Biden's handling of classified documents, describing him as, quote, a sympathetic, well-meaning elderly man with a poor memory. And that was the reason he chose not to prosecute him. Mr. Biden was increasingly seen relying on note cards for basic talking points and requiring heavy assistance from handlers.

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Democrat officials told us all behind the scenes he was like a machine.

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Mr. Klain, who resigned from his White House role to run debate preparations, telling Mr. Whipple that in private, President Biden was, quote, fatigued, befuddled, and disengaged. Klain worried the debate was going to be a disaster. Team Biden preparing two mock debates in advance of the big night.

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Mr. Whipple reporting, quote, the first was scheduled to last 90 minutes, but Klain called it off after 45. The president's voice was shot, and so was his grasp of the subject. Klain. Klain tells Whipple that Mr. Biden seemed out of touch with American politics and that Klain wondered if Mr. Biden at one point thought he was president of NATO, not the United States.

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The second prep session called off after just 25 minutes. President Biden reportedly saying, quote, I'm just too tired to continue and I'm afraid of losing my voice here and I feel bad. I just need some sleep. I'll be fine tomorrow. On June 27th, Mr. Klain's fears coming true on national television.

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Less than one month later, President Biden announcing he would not seek re-election. We will keep bringing you the latest reporting, which of course is more than a year late. Top advisor to RFK, J. Callie Means, on Wednesday, taking the hot seat in front of a hostile audience at Politico's Healthcare Summit.

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The panel coming just one week after Secretary Kennedy announcing a significant restructuring of the Health and Human Services Department. the plan reducing the HHS workforce by 10,000 and consolidating 28 divisions into 15. Critics of the administration, not pleased.

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People in this country will needlessly get sick and die as a result of these cuts. Journalist Dasha Burns questioning Mr. Means on the rationale behind the cuts.

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Mr. Means responding forcefully to hecklers in the crowd, many of whom he identified as lobbyists from the food and health care industries. According to the CDC, 6 in 10 adults have at least one chronic disease. 4 in 10 have two or more. Chronic disease accounting for 7 of 10 of the top causes of death in the United States.

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And despite spending more money than any other country on Earth on health care, the U.S. has a lower life expectancy than its European counterparts. Mr. Means saying the cuts to HHS are focused on streamlining the ability of scientists to conduct research.

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Direct funding covers the core of scientific research. It pays for lab equipment, study materials, data collection, and the salaries of scientists and researchers doing the work. Indirect funding covers everything from office janitorial services to university overhead, admin salaries, and even facility fees that seemingly have nothing to do with the research itself.

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RFKJ aiming to steer HHS in a direction focused on understanding and eliminating chronic disease, not simply managing symptoms. In the crosshairs, ultra-processed foods. These food items containing little to no food. They're made up largely of chemicals and preservatives that maximize shelf life and prioritize convenience.

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Product offerings are typically cheaper than fresh, organic grocery store food, making them more appealing to low-income Americans, an argument often exploited by the food companies themselves. Mr. Means firmly rejecting the argument.

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Mr. Means going on to say food companies often manufacture two versions of the same product, one made with synthetic additives for the American market and another made with natural ingredients packaged and sold overseas. What's easy enough to make for the Europeans should be easy enough to make for Americans. That'll do it for your AM update. I'm Megyn Kelly.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. Oh, they're still on freaking signal gate everywhere. We just like move on. It's not going away. The Democrats are so excited. They've got something juicy that makes the Trump administration look bad to talk about.

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Um, it was just, it's unbelievable. So this guy's been turned into some sort of a hero and pick your poison. I mean, if you are pro Europe, you're blaming this all on JD Vance. Like he said terrible things about our best friends, but how they needed to take care of this. If you are anti Pete Hegseth, you're saying he needs to get fired.

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Um, a lot of this sort of pro more neoconny guys much prefer Tim Walls. I mean, sorry, not Tim Walls, Mike Walls. Um, so there's like different constituencies coming out. Um, and Mike, Mike Walls with Laura Ingram claimed he will get to the bottom of it, which I believe we will. And he said he's brought in a special helper to do that. Take a listen here. It's

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I don't. I mean, I guess it's good to have Elon and his tech bros, right? Weigh in. But like. They need to stop going on shows and talking about it. Do they?

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That's like when I married Doug, he was running an internet security software firm. Like they would protect against hackers, that kind of thing. And my mom would call up and be like, my browser disappeared. Where's my browser?

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OK, but here here is the most offensive, absurd take of all someone I've never heard of. You guys are in the biz, so you might have Democrat representative of Texas. What's going on with Texas? We got Jasmine Crockett. We got this loser, Jimmy Gomez, who had this take on it at a hearing with the CIA director and others. But this exchange is with CIA director John Ratcliffe. Cliff.

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You're an idiot. I don't have any knowledge of Secretary Hegseth's personal habits.

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By the way, apologies to Texas. He's of course actually from California. Can you believe the nerve of this guy?

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This guy, Jimmy Gomez, according to a radio host in South Carolina, Brett Winterbull, was, before he entered electoral politics— a labor organizer.

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At the time, Pete Hegseth had a backpack on and a gun slung around his shoulder and was killing bad guys for us in Iraq and Afghanistan and down at Gitmo dealing with the worst of the worst. So that's how Pete spent his formative adult years while Jimmy was a mini Barack Obama trying to organize, in his case, labor. But he wants to besmirch Pete as a drunk

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Because he says, we saw him with the drink in his hand. What an absolute fucker. That is based on Pete standing up in front of a room full of people at a public event in which he was addressing, I can't remember, what was the event, you guys?

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Yeah. It was in Belgium. It might have been that. Anyway, look, he's saying this is him drinking booze. This idiot Matt Iglesias said, I assume this is the trick of the light. And he's not actually throwing back bourbon on camera. But it's interesting that the water looks brown.

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Meanwhile, it would have taken him 10 seconds to Google video from the event where it makes very clear the water was clear, like all water is, and that it was just a lighting trick. But again, Now it winds up in a congressional hearing as like he's been, this is so disgusting how they use this stuff to absolutely smear honest, hardworking men.

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It's so deeply offensive that you would get up there and actually suggest, and only in Congress can you get away with this because you've got a liability shield from defamation, actually basically call him a drunk. Say like, was he drunk when he was tweeting this shit?

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But if not for nothing, there's zero about the actual text that suggests in any way, shame, shape, shape or form that anyone was impaired while having this discussion. It's absolutely defamatory, but they get away with it.

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To pick up on the point you just made, Smug, everyone's favorite pollster or at least poll analyst, Harry Enten, was over on CNN doing a bit on what you just said on Trump's approval. And here's a bit of it.

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It's down low. It's out the window. He's very entertaining to watch.

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They're not feeling about Harry the way the rest of us are. He's from the Bronx, which is another thing. I love the New York City accent. I love it. But Brooklyn, Bronx, it always is utterly charming to me. OK, enough of that. Signalgate will go away. No one will be fired and we'll be fine. However, I don't know if NPR is going to be OK.

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I think NPR is about to lose its taxpayer funding based on what I saw yesterday. I think it's going to based on what Trump tweeted yesterday. And what we saw yesterday. It was so great to watch. This woman, Catherine Marr. Have you... This speaking of smug, smug, right?

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She was like oozing contempt and like superiority and trying to be like, thank you so much for raising a thank you. Thanks for giving me the opportunity to respond to that. Now, let me lie for two minutes about how it never happened. I appreciate you giving me the chance to lie about how I never did the controversial thing. I'm very grateful to you for bringing up.

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And then these congressmen just kept hitting her with, oh, you never did it? Oh, well, here's you saying you did it. And the best, I mean, there's so many good ones to choose from, but we might as well just kick it off with my new favorite congressman. He is from Texas. He's Brandon Gill. He's married to Dinesh D'Souza's daughter. I didn't know any of this.

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He is a cold stone, stone cold assassin in that congressional seats. Watch him.

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I love him so much. I need to know him. He's got to come on this show. I have to tell him how much I deeply admire him.

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Yes, you did. Yes, you did. His lack of emotionality is what made it so good. He was just like, you did. You said that. You did tweet that. Here's the exact tweet. You said you read that book. You said you took the whole day off and spent the day reading that book. And here's the thing that's so great about it is, so which is the lie?

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Were you lying when you said that you read these woke, annoying books time and time again to try to pander to left-wingers who you think are your fans? Was that a lie? Or are you lying today under oath when you're looking at me saying, you never read these books.

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Because like, not only did you take the time to lie to all these people if you didn't read these books, but like you actually tweeted it in front of, I don't know how many followers she has, probably hundreds of thousands. So like the virtue signaling that she felt was important to do to be like, I'm a leftist, just like all of you.

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And I'm reading all your favorite insane books, like which is worse if those were lies and she was just pandering or if she really did that shit and then just lied under oath to Congress.

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I love, love, love the NPR story so much. And I hate, hate, hate the Signal story. Not because it makes the Trump administration look bad. I'm happy to talk about stuff that makes the Trump administration... I don't care. I'm obviously a Trump supporter. Still, the news is the news. But this one's just so... Pointless. No one's saying anything new.

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Do we think she read the case for reparations? I don't think she read the case for reparations. Go ahead, Ashbrook.

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Apologies. Thank God that guy was never subjected to my new favorite representative.

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Yeah, you did. Here's more. First of all, I'll go back to the congressional hearing, but I will give you a little bit for old time's sake of Catherine Marr's TED Talk that you referenced in 2022. This is before she became the head of NPR. This is the stuff that got her the job. Watch.

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We're going back and forth arguing about whether it was war plans or attack plans. And like, is Mike Walsh more culpable because he appears to have added Jeffrey Goldberg to the thread? Or is it Pete Hegseth who, you know, released? Was it classified information or is it not classified? Because as defense secretary, he's declassifying it by share. Like. I don't care.

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The Houthis are dead, which would really have like the average person like dead Houthis. Cool. And probably should take it off signal for the next one and get rid of the nasty reporter. Like, don't you think that's how most normal people are reacting to this?

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Right. And she's very glad that you brought that up. Very glad. So she could tell you it isn't true. I don't know why I said that. That was crazy talk. The funny thing is there was a report, I think it was Politico, after the hearing yesterday saying that... No, it was New York Times, Benjamin Mullen, who reported that...

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Supporters of public media were breathing a sigh of relief at the end of the hearing. One longtime public media executive texted me to say that neither chief executive, because PBS was also there, had made a major error yet. They don't get it, you guys.

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And for some reason, the Trump administration does keep talking about it, which I like it. just stop. This is pointless. You have so many good things you can talk about that don't involve this egg on the face situation. But they all are, so we will too, to some extent. Way more delicious is what happened on the Hill yesterday with NPR and PBS.

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They're like, Catherine, it was stellar. Right on point. That part where you said you didn't actually read the books. Loved that part. Didn't lay a glove on you.

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Wait until you see your funding go away. I mean, probably to be honest, the most important question there was that question we played of the guy being like, why'd you call Donald Trump a fascist, racist sociopath? I meant it lovingly. That was probably the most important one because Trump, already tweeting out, we need to defund these guys. They've got to go. There's no point in us funding PBS.

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And all that Dems had was, but Elmo, but Elmo. Meanwhile, Sesame Street was sold to HBO in 2018. Elmo is going to be just fine.

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We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. The fellows are with me for the full show, and there's a lot more to get to. The IRS is the largest collection agency in the world. And with April 15th fast approaching, it's more aggressive than ever. If you owe back taxes or have unfiled returns, waiting is not an option. April 15th could mark another tax year that has passed you by.

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April 15th, just around the corner. Act now before the IRS acts first. There's been a lot of this in the news lately, and so I decided to save this segment for you. And I know we're going to get to Hack Madness, your own special version of March Madness, in a minute. But to put us in the mood, this is the appetizer to Hack Madness, I have my own little game for you.

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And this is more in the field of the Academy Awards. And I really would love for you guys to weigh in on who you think, who you think is, in fact, the best actress in America. America today outside of Hollywood. Okay. And I have got a couple of contenders for you. All right. I've narrowed it down to four.

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And I'm going to show you how these people normally sound and then how they sound when they get in front of certain audiences and certain cameras.

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I see what's happening here. Who wore it best? Who fooled you? Who's phoning it in and who's really going method? Okay? In... Fourth place, not necessarily fourth place. This is just, I'm going to start with as the fourth possibility, but I've got four total and you'll decide what order they go in. I'm going to kick it off with. AOC, okay? Her real name is Sandy Ocasio.

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This is what she went by her entire life, Sandy Ocasio. And only when she decided to run for office did she decide to suddenly become Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and lean into her Puerto Rican history, where her mother was born in Puerto Rico, but her father was born in New York City.

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And she decided to tell us sob stories about how she's from a poor family and she was living, you know, paycheck to paycheck. Meanwhile, she was raised in a tony part of Westchester called Yorktown Heights. The single family home she grew up in was just sold in 2016 for $355,000. So it's not exactly, you know, food stamp central. Yeah. She went to Boston University.

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To hear her tell her story, you'd think she never went to college, right? She was only a bartender. No, she went to Boston University and graduated with a BA in international relations and economics, and then spent some time as a waitress and a bartender. Good for you. Virtually everyone in America did too. I mean, literally raise your hand if you had a service personnel job. Oh my God. Yes.

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Right. All of us, all five of us. Hello. The difference is we don't run around asking for people to pat us on the back because we did it. It's called being a normal human. When you're young, you take those kinds of jobs. And even when you're older, sometimes you do to pay your bills. This is called being a normal human, not a oh, woe is me. I worked as a waitress.

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And I'll get to some of what she's saying around that. But that's her story. Now she makes almost $200,000 a year as a U.S. Congresswoman and is still pretending that she's on her waitress salary. But in any event, here is how she normally sounds when she's speaking and not thinking about who's listening or trying to fool anybody.

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They should have taught her at Boston University. It was where there were times she was right. You got to get that subject verb agreement. I know it's tough, Sandy. Work on it. That's her, though, sounding relatively normal relative. Then there's a different version that we've heard a lot more of a lot recently.

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All right. So you got you got that in mind. Are we you're with me?

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It is. But we have contenders. All right. Now I'm going to go outside of the political realm for this next one. You'll know her as soon as you see her. I think let's play the normal version of the person who whose name is. Hillary, who grew up in a very nice suburb of Boston, going to some Tony rich school that virtually no one else can afford.

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I think her dad is a dentist, but now goes by Hilaria Baldwin. Here she is sounding like her normal self.

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I like I got to say, just be honest, I'm not sure who I like better on Best Actress. But we've got other contenders. So, you know, keep an open mind. This woman all over the news these days, the new spokesperson for the Democrat Party, and we all hope the future of it. Here is Jasmine Crockett as recently as 2023. Again, sounding like a normal person.

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Kind of cute, excited, optimistic, normal hair, normal eyelashes, and probably normal nails, though they weren't shown in that clip. Flash forward to today's day and age, and more recently, and we've done a 180.

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Y'all about to find out, all right? Do I need to say it again? Because I will. She sounds absolutely nothing like she used to, you guys. Nothing.

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Yeah, exactly. Right? We do. We need a whole lot more of her. It's amazing how she's now like street, right? Like, I'm going to whip somebody's head. Okay, sure. We'll look forward to that, Jasmine. Okay. No segment like this would be complete without our fourth candidate. And honestly, she's probably got the inside track, and you'll see why. Here she was sounding normal.

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Yeah, right? I don't, it's like they want to scalp. And, you know, yesterday, with all due respect to Dave Portnoy, they actually raised Dave Portnoy's name at the White House press briefing. Some reporter was like, well, Dave Portnoy, even Dave Portnoy was laughing about the fact that they took his commentary and elevated it to the presidential level.

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Note how she said courage and here where we had ours being used properly. And yet when she ran for president, having been passed the baton by Joe Biden, very, very different sounding. Here it is.

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A little cool running reference for the listener. We're going to win. Who is going to win this little contest, gentlemen? Who's is there a clear number one?

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Wait, we're going to come back to Ellaria in one second. But, I mean, I feel like you might be giving short shrift to Jasmine, right? Who's like, the 2023 version is so sweet. You like her. You're like, oh, I see why Houstonians said, yeah, let's send this gal to Congress. Before she was like, bitch, I will cut you.

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Like, well, what do you have to, I mean, Dave Portnoy's calling for someone to get fired. He wants Mike Walsh to be fired. What are you, like, what, what are we doing? If Dave Portnoy, tells me not to go to a certain place for pizza, I'm very interested. If he has something interesting to say about sports, about which I know nothing, I'm interested.

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Like, he goes on the late-night shows. He's like, you know, my wife, she's from Spain. She's in the kitchen cooking. She's in the kitchen cooking.

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It's like, it's truly like if I were running for mayor of Chicago next year and I'm running around going, top of the morning to you.

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If you're casting for SNL, you gotta go with Kamala. She can do any bit. We can go Rastafarian. I have no decency, man. We can go Latina. We can go Preacher. We can do the Black Sam. I don't know what she's doing there with her little urban whatever.

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His social commentary is fun, but whether someone needs to get fired over Signalgate, I'm out. And I certainly would never be so dumb as to raise that with the White House, which I think Portnoy agrees with me on.

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All right. So while we're on the subject of Ilaria, she and Alec have this reality TV show. It must not be doing well because they're clearly now making a point of doing and saying very weird things to try to get into segments like the one that I'm doing right now. And it's working because they're very strange people. And the following clip went everywhere.

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We could have raised it earlier in the week, but we saved it for our friends from the variety program. And you will see why. Oh, yes.

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There's a lot going on there. Is dong an appropriate word for the fellow down south in Rio? I thought that was much more of a dated reference from like 16 Candles. Dong? Is that still in the vernacular?

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But in general, you're telling me it's still in favor. This is good to know. How about the personality? He referred to it as the personality. He turned around with his personality out. Is that that's got to be a new one.

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That was that was something that was that makes it sound like there's somewhat of a skin problem.

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I'm sorry. What was the last thing? Oh, the baseball bat. The baseball bat. Because it really hurt Alec. I think that's why that came to mind. It really hurt him. Yeah, you don't want to think about stuff like that. Has anybody, has anyone given a moment's thought to those that came before them with their spouse? I don't, I'm not sure this is, maybe it's just because you haven't seen them naked.

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I don't know what's going on in that strange relationship, but I do know they're actively seeking attention because they need ratings on their show. Okay, I feel like I would be remiss if I did not mention, as we're talking about people who have changed themselves dramatically, in mentioning a Republican controversy today that involves Kristi Noem.

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So Kristi Noem is our Department of Homeland Security head, as you know. She was a controversial pick. The reason she wasn't chosen for vice president was probably that ridiculous memoir she wrote confessing to killing her puppy, Cricket, who she shot in the face for no reason right after, before she killed their goat. And I don't know, like a set of horses. No, not really.

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No horses died, just the puppy and the family goat. And then the daughter got off the bus and was like, where's Cricket? Anyway, there was that. Yeah. There was an alleged affair with Corey Lewandowski, which was reported by the Daily Mail, which we talked about in the show. She got probably downgraded off of VP and she got made DHS.

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And I said to this audience, well, I will be rooting for her because that is a very big job. And What we've seen so far is a lot of photo ops. Okay. She went on, was it Fox news wearing her like FBI DHS jacket? Like she just finished a field operation while she was actually doing the arrests. Like that's cosplaying. All right. We'll show you that picture when we get it.

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Then we saw her out there rounding up illegals on her horse with her cowboy hat, which I said, all right, I'm going to have to give her a pass on that because she actually was raised on a ranch in South Dakota. That's not necessarily cosplaying, right? Like that could. But it was obviously a curated photo op that she put together to make sure she look and all this.

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She's got false eyelashes, heavy eyeliner. the big lips with all the gloss, the heavy blush, you know, she's camera ready. Like I would be for doing a television hit, but maybe not while I was riding the horses and like capturing illegals. And then she went next level last night.

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By the way, this is after she got in trouble for like being a spokesperson for a dental office when she was still the governor of South Dakota and showing off her fake veneers, which she's really proud of. Like she's very obsessed with the new look, which is dramatically different than the old look. And then we see her last night dropping this video from that El Salvadorian prison. Watch.

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Okay. Standing behind her in a cage are dozens of shirtless prisoners in the El Salvadorian jail looking... kind of scared, confused. They're being used as props for her photo op in her skin-tight shirt with her hair perfectly curled and coiffed, and again the makeup, as she tries to sound tough with these prisoners behind her as her background, as like truly her human props in her photo.

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And I'm telling you, you guys, it's fucked up. I have no empathy for Venezuelan gang members who wound up in an El Salvadorian jail. But this is messed up.

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I mean, truly, to use them in this way as her backdrop to show us how cool she is and how tough she is, is gross and utterly unhelpful to those of us who have been out there arguing that Trump is within his rights to round up these eagle eagles in America and send them there with very limited due process. Utterly unhelpful. So, any thoughts on that?

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I don't remember another DHS secretary showing up for TV hits like this. Hold on, we'll put it on the board. Like trying to look like, look at her, with the long dangling earrings and the hat and like the jacket.

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this is the whole thing feels like an act and I'm all for women taking over these powerful, tough, important positions, but I'm embarrassed for how she's presenting herself while doing it. Like maybe it's time. And as you know, like I look, I'm not really in a position to cast stones here from my made up face at my desk, but I can guarantee you that if I became

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Secretary of Homeland Security, I would not be laying on the lip gloss, the lashes, and the blush before I started talking about illegals I made sure wound up in El Salvador. Or cosplaying up with my DHS wear before I went on Fox News. This is a deeply insecure person. And I'm sorry, but it doesn't. Who are we if we only have honest talk for the left?

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This is honest talk from someone who's a Trump supporter that he needs to rein her in because she's becoming an embarrassment.

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I take your point. I see that. Now, actually, I in her defense, when she put that out last night, it's getting way more likes than it is getting criticism. And most of the people criticizing it are like on the left and against this policy to begin with. So I think I'm in a unique spot because I actually support this policy and I want more illegal gang members deported to El Salvador. However.

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the way to convince Judge Boasberg, who will be the ultimate trier of fact on this, that we're not winning this fight right now, we just lost to the Court of Appeals, and the Supreme Court may not take it immediately. So Judge Boasberg is in control at the moment, is really not to give him more reasons to suspect what kind of treatment they're gonna have down in El Salvador.

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And to take them and make them look like little lab rats behind prison bars looking dazed and confused and shirtless as she stands there totally glammed to the nines is a bad fucking move. I can say this as a lawyer. This is not what you'd want introduced into the record, Christy.

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And what should have been done, Duncan, to your point on deterrence, is let's stick with the video we have that's already out there. of the prisoners being processed. It's bad enough, frankly, of them bent over and being like, you know, put assembly line as they get checked out and yeah. And put into the prison. Like I'm not really that comfortable with that, but it's fine.

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Like these are gang members. These are fucking people who killed Americans. So, you know, cry me a river, some of them. But there is a debate about who got in there that shouldn't have. There were two mistakes made. A woman got in and she was sent back home. A guy from Nicaragua who clearly is not a Venezuelan gang member got in and he was sent back home.

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Anyway, I'm just saying right now we're debating over how much due process they should get while we figure out whether they really are Tren de Aragua and whether we should have shipped them to this prison. And Shots of them looking, maybe it's for the camera, but like scared and disoriented and a little shell-shocked aren't helpful. Okay. That's my take on the matter. Feel free to disagree.

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My audience often does with me, but that's what we love about each other. Megan at megankelly.com.

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Is this or is this not MS-13? They're trying, but that won't do it because that's good news for the Trump administration. And the left-wing media that's driving this story won't go along with it. But what's been remarkable to me, because if you search all the news sites, and obviously that's my job, they're all still on it. Everyone.

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It's funny because I'm really against these people. And I trust in Tom Homan's ability to figure out whether they're Venezuelan gang members. I really do. He is not running around willy-nilly just picking random Hispanics as the left would have you believe.

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But... It's, it's another thing to put that on display and ask Americans to be like, all right, sure. I'm fine with zero due process before we do that. Right. Like, cause that's really what Trump is asking for under the alien enemies act.

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And look, I've defended it, defended it repeatedly on the show, but I just feel like I don't, maybe it's a woman thing, you know, maybe I'm too soft, but I, for me, that was too much. It was like, You look like you're on the backs of people who are in a lot of trouble. We understand that. And most of us are okay with them having to sort that out.

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But you look like you're trying to make it into a photo op about you looking tough as opposed to a serious and sober legal issue that we're really... regretful we have to deal with, but we do have to deal with things to Joe Biden. And you should not look like this is a fun thing for you to do. And you're going to wear your skin tight shirt and go down there and try to look hot and threatening.

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I just, it's to me is a big turnoff. Okay. Sorry. So last word, but I appreciate the disagreement and keep them coming. All right. Stand by quick break more after this. These days, personal safety is not something that can or should be left to chance. Whether at home, on the road, or just living everyday life, having a reliable way to protect yourself and your family is crucial.

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I mean, everything online, all the print papers, completely on Signalgate. And so are all of the more establishment Republican media outlets, right? Like the Wall Street Journal's all over it. National Review's got like four pieces up on how somebody needs to get fired and how terrible this is. I mean, I love National Review, but they're really turning into never Trumpers.

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I'm Megyn Kelly, host of The Megyn Kelly Show on Sirius XM. It's your home for open, honest, and provocative conversations with the most interesting and important political, legal, and cultural figures today. You can catch The Megyn Kelly Show on Triumph, a Sirius XM channel featuring lots of hosts you may know and probably love. Great people like Dr. Laura. Thank you.

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My God, if you listen to the AM update this morning, that's our new morning show with just the news headlines, which I think you'll like. my friend Donna, you know, she listens to the show every day. My closest friend from law school, she says, you're starting to get spicier. Your personality is starting to come through more. First off, we started out Walter Cronkite-like with our delivery.

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Like they're starting to read much more like the dispatch and they should watch it. I love those guys, but they need to rein that in a bit because it's all Trump bashing. But my takeaway is, The people who wanted, and it's in particular about Hegseth, Hegseth to have nothing to do with the Pentagon, and we're totally against his elevation to that post, are the loudest critics in this scandal.

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They think there's blood in the water. They're trying to change the conversation from Mike Walz to Pete Hegseth. even though, and I don't think either one should be fired, but even though it was Mike Walsh who added this Jeffrey Goldberg to the Atlanta, Pete Hexeth didn't do that. Pete Hexeth trusted the national security advisor that this was an appropriate place to have this conversation.

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And that he who had created the group walls had screened everyone appropriately. That's, that was Pete's sin. Right. And then had a frank conversation about the plans as was obviously the requested by Mike Walls and the others who were on there, including the vice president. But I really think it's all these people who hated Pete who will not let this die because they think they can get a scalp.

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But but it's it's Peter Dinklage wanted the whole field to himself. I went out there and was like, this is insulting. Unless it's me.

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Yeah, I think I don't think they're all this bad. I think so. I think most young ingenues can be scared into just being quiet until the movie comes out. At least like please give the movie a chance. Understanding that Republicans buy sneakers, too. You know, yeah. Michael Jordan. Like just give it a chance.

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And I'm here to tell you, it's not gettable. He's not getting fired. You're gonna have to cry harder.

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Here's some good news. Speaking of the woke wars, Anheuser-Busch declines for the first time in over 30 years to sponsor the Pride Fest parade in St. Louis. They will not. That's that's Bud Light learning its lesson. They won't sponsor the Pride Fest. And several other companies are saying we're out. This LGBTQ Pride Fest is now openly complaining, saying we don't understand.

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DEI is somehow becoming a bad word. We need these partners. We need them now more than ever. And they've lost hundreds of thousands of dollars as various companies refuse to pitch in, including reportedly, according to the New York Times, Booz Allen Hamilton, Deloitte, Comcast, an auto dealership group, Darkars. And then there's Bud Light all saying not interested.

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This is a huge victory in an important battle that we've all been fighting. Will it continue, guys? What do you think?

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Mm-hmm. It's wonderful to see that they're learning their lesson. Go ahead, Ashbrook. You got 30 seconds.

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Yeah, they can make it happen without all these corporate dollars. And these corporations are looking at people like Chris Ruffo and Robbie Starbuck, who's been doing such a good job of shaming them for continuing DEI policies that are divisive and racist and sexist. And we've all got our eyes on them now. They know they have real skin in this game. They will not be universally praised.

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They will be publicly humiliated with their core audience like Bud Light was. So- I love it. It's progress. Great to see you, fellas.

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All right. We'll be back tomorrow with Halpern and the Morning Meeting Crew. See you then. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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Now we're getting a little looser. In any event, I think you'll like it. We talked about some of the soundbites. We played some of the soundbites. And oh my God, we have so many more. It was so fun. It's wonderful to see these left-wing hacks get called out explicitly for their left-wing hackism. And we'll do more of that here. Plus, it's March Madness, which means it's hack madness, too.

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Yep, 100%. And so now you've got Jeffrey Goldberg moving into saintly status of the Atlantic, this complete left-wing hack who has never seen Republican catnip that he hasn't sniffed and rolled around in and peddled to his viewers as real, right? From Russiagate to the fawning piece he did on Mark Milley for holding the line against this dictatorial Trump.

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The guy who was going to tell the Chinese if we were going to unleash an attack on them, which, by the way, no one was even planning. Only Mark Milley's head was Trump going to go attack the Chinese. We didn't attack the Chinese. Trump didn't give the order to go attack the Chinese.

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But Mark Milley decided to take it upon himself to, in a treasonous communication, tell his counterpart in China, if we are going to drop any bombs on you, I will give you the heads up. That's crazy. Totally, I mean, insubordinate is an understatement, but he's a patriot in the eyes of the Atlantic. Okay, so Jeffrey Goldberg goes out there like, I'm the dignified one here.

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OK, they added me because I'm important. Obviously, I'm in everybody's phone, not mine. Mike Walsh is even saying not in his. Now, I have to say, to be honest, that sounds like bullshit to me. He does. I mean, I don't know how he'd get added from Mike Walsh's phone if he weren't in their walls in a very awkward exchange with Laura Ingram.

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seem to be trying to say, it'd be like, if I texted you something homes and said, um, Hey, you know, great having you on the show today, Doug, my husband wanted to send you something. And like, I CC Doug on the communication, you know, like I added him in. So you didn't have Doug in the community in, in your contacts, but like sometimes your phone would recognize, Oh, This is Doug, right?

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Like it might say at a future point, if you're searching for a Doug, it might pull that up because there is some AI on your phone that does that for you. He seemed to be suggesting Goldberg was part of a different conversation he had with somebody. And that's somehow I have no idea. OK, yeah, that's my main point. All these thoughts.

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So Goldberg goes out there and he's like, I didn't I didn't want to do any of it. I'm so sad that they're making me do this. But I feel, you know, an obligation to tell you how insecure, unsecure these comms are and that I had war plans. And he went all over the news media on Tuesday saying nothing. I'm not going to release the stuff they texted about the war plans because it's too incendiary.

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It's going to compromise our military. So that I won't do. And here's a little bit of how he sounded on Tuesday. Watch, saw two.

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White House press secretary has said you're lying. So there are no war plans there. I've said there's no classified information. So the obvious question is, shouldn't you now demonstrate it? Shouldn't you publish the text? No, because they're wrong.

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Speaking of hacks, it's hack madness. What do I mean? Well, what media hacks are performing well in their ruthless brackets... There's only one group of fellas that have the answer to that. They are Josh Holmes, Michael Duncan, John Ashbrook, and Comfortably Smug, the hosts of the Ruthless podcast or variety program.

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Sticking to his principles. Okay. So just for the record, that was him and the messaging up and down television on Tuesday. For whatever it's worth, this is what I said on Tuesday. By the way, I think we're T minus like 72 hours before Jeffrey Goldberg releases it anyway with maybe a couple of things redacted.

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But I don't think he's going to stay in this like, I'm above it all and I won't release it. He just, I don't think he can help himself. And I was 100% right, except for the redacting part. 24 hours later. Yeah, except for the redacting. So he releases it all. Virtually 99.99% has been released. I think he withheld the one name of the one guy. But the whole, all the, it wouldn't be responsible.

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I take this stuff very, very seriously. No, I shouldn't publish it. It'd be wrong. I have clear standards out the window. Not a single redaction. Read it all.

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Well, that'll do it for your AM update. I'm Megyn Kelly. Join me back here for The Megyn Kelly Show live on SiriusXM Triumph Channel 111 at noon east, on YouTube.com slash Megyn Kelly, and on all podcast platforms.

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Heads of NPR and PBS testifying in front of the House Oversight and Government Reform Subcommittee on Wednesday, both outlets receiving a mix of direct and indirect funding from the federal government. NPR reporting 8% of its 2022 budget coming from the publicly funded Rehabilitation Corporation for Public Broadcasting, another 6% from federal, state, and local governments.

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PBS says 14% of its operating budget comes from the feds. Republicans have long criticized both outlets for what they say is intense media bias against the right. GOP lawmakers' frustrations targeted mostly at NPR in the hearing. Last year, 25-year NPR veteran Uri Berliner confirming the left-wing NPR bias in a free press essay titled, "'I've been at NPR for 25 years.

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Here's how we lost America's trust.'" Mr. Berliner writing, quote, today, those who listen to NPR or read its coverage online find the distilled worldview of a very small segment of the U.S. population. Republican Congressman from Ohio, Jim Jordan, questioning NPR CEO Catherine Marr on some of Mr. Berliner's claims.

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Heads of publicly funded outlets, NPR and PBS, called to Capitol Hill to answer for their left-wing political bias.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Thursday, March 27th, 2025, and this is your AM Update.

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One wonders why Ms. Marr, if she finds this possibility so concerning, never bothered to check it out. A month after Mr. Berliner's essay, NPR implemented an additional editorial review process involving a final check by six editors, none of whom appears to be right-leaning. Ms. Marr herself has a long history of expressing controversial opinions.

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In 2016, Ms. Maher tweeting, quote, airline business class demographics are such a pet peeve of mine in the lounge and on the plane, usually more than 80 percent male, usually white. After Joe Biden's win in November 2020, Ms. Maher tweeting, I can't stop crying with relief. Many similar examples remain on her X feed and were the subject of some questioning on Wednesday.

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The Atlantic magazine's signal messaging story dominates left-wing media for the third day, with reaction falling mostly along party lines. And Democrat Congresswoman from Texas Jasmine Crockett under fire for mocking Texas Governor Greg Abbott's disability. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update. So many people these days are focusing on getting healthy.

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Republican lawmakers also calling out uneven NPR coverage of investigations into the Trump and Biden presidencies.

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The Hunter Biden laptop story, which was later verified as completely true, suppressed by the media in the weeks leading up to the 2020 election. NPR did not acknowledge the laptop's authenticity until 17 months later. Democrats on the committee mocking and condemning the hearing.

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Side note, Sesame Street was sold to HBO back in 2015. Chairman of the committee Marjorie Taylor Greene concluding the hearing saying she will refer NPR and PBS to the Doge team for funding cuts. President Trump expressing support for the idea on Tuesday.

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Reaction to The Atlantic magazine's big bombshell that its editor-in-chief Jeffrey Goldberg was copied on alleged war plans by top intel and defense officials falling mostly along party lines. The Atlantic, releasing the details of what it initially referred to as, quote, war plans, now slightly softened to say, quote, attack plans.

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The newly revealed messages show Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth texting the group on the Signal app, a timeline of the administration's planned attack on the Houthi rebels. Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt fielding multiple questions in a tense White House briefing.

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Again, I would defer you to the Secretary of Defense's statement. President Trump dismissing concerns about the security lapse.

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Secretary of State Marco Rubio, who was in the group chat weighing in on the controversy from a tour of the Caribbean, appearing to distance himself from the matter.

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A left-wing federal watchdog group called American Oversight now suing the Trump administration, saying their use of Signal is a violation of the Federal Records Act. The case randomly assigned to U.S.

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District Judge James Boasberg, the same judge who issued a nationwide injunction against the Trump administration on its invocation of the Alien Enemies Act to deport suspected Venezuelan gang members. The Signal controversy dominating the questions in a Wednesday House Intelligence Committee hearing.

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Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard and CIA Director John Ratcliffe defending their participation in the chat.

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Democrats on the committee repeatedly admonishing the Intel officials.

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Democrat Congressman from California Jimmy Gomez questioning Secretary Hegseth's sobriety.

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The congressman referencing a quickly debunked claim from a left-wing media troll after a February NATO press conference. A still image at the time showed Secretary Hegseth appearing to sip a brown liquid from a glass in a room full of people, which sparked speculation by one troll of alcohol consumption. However, video of the incident revealing the glass was actually filled with

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clear water, its color simply distorted in one still shot by the appearance of Hegseth's hand behind it. Congressman Gomez trying to smear the defense secretary as crafting military actions while drunk with zero evidence. Coming up, Democrat Congresswoman from Texas Jasmine Crockett under fire for calling wheelchair-bound Texas Governor Greg Abbott Governor Hot Wheels.

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Democrat Congresswoman from Texas Jasmine Crockett under fire for making particularly nasty comments about Texas Governor Greg Abbott and his disability. Congresswoman Crockett over the weekend speaking at a human rights campaign event. You know, the human rights campaign that fights for equality for all, especially for, quote, the most marginalized.

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The audience laughed. In 1984, an oak tree fell on the then 26-year-old Mr. Abbott, paralyzing him from the waist down. It was seemingly all leading disability advocacy groups could do to begrudgingly express mild criticism of Ms. Crockett's remarks.

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Josie Bysak, director at the United Spinal Association, saying, quote, Representative Crockett has a history of protecting the programs and rights of people with disabilities, and that's wonderful. At the same time, the stigma is real.

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Disability rights advocate Emily Ledoux telling Politico, quote, Right now, we're in really tenuous times where you don't want to make a foe out of someone who is otherwise a friend, like Crockett clearly is, but we cannot hold one side to account and not the other. Congresswoman Crockett on Tuesday in damage control mode posting to X, quote, I wasn't thinking about the governor's condition.

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I was thinking about the planes, trains and automobiles he used to transfer migrants into communities led by black mayors, deliberately stoking tension and fear among the most vulnerable. Fox News is Jackie Henrich asking the congresswoman on Wednesday if she would like to apologize.

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The Washington Free Beacon reporting Ms. Crockett previously liked multiple social media posts referring to Abbott as Hot Wheels before the governor's migrant busing initiative even began. Governor Abbott responding to Ms. Crockett's statements on Hannity.

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Ms. Crockett going viral several times in recent weeks for using aggressive language to discuss political opponents. Earlier this week, she told the Dallas Morning News Democrats need to punch harder to win elections.

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Ms. Crockett, a vocal supporter of the Tesla takedown group, last week saying in a live stream, On March 29th, it's my birthday.

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There have been dozens of attacks against Tesla facilities across the nation in recent weeks involving Molotov cocktails and other acts of vandalism. On Monday, three incendiary devices discovered at a Tesla dealership in Austin, Texas. There is no evidence linking Crockett's remarks to recent attacks. There is, however, evidence of Ms.

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Crockett dramatically changing her manner of speaking from just a few years ago to now. Take a listen to her in 2022.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. The corporate media is having a bigger meltdown this week than any other of the Trump presidency so far. There's Joy Reid's firing on MSNBC. Take care, sweetheart. We'll miss you in our own special way.

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Joining me now to discuss it all is Buck Sexton. He's co-host of The Clay, Travis, and Buck Sexton Show. Buck, welcome back.

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Just to give a little bit more from the Rufo reporting, Rufo had like an epic post on this, which summed it up as follows. There is a battalion of male to female transgender transgenders within the American Intel apparatus. They hate Italians and libs of tick tock. They fantasize about pseudo vaginas and butthole lasers. They are in charge of the most sophisticated spying machine in human history.

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Well said. Here's a couple of examples. One, I mean, honestly, the rest is nice too, talking about transgender surgeries. Wearing panties without worrying about anything showing, seeing my reflection in the mirror, wearing leggings, et cetera. But the pee thing is something I never thought of, but it's really nice. Then I'm going to be wearing leggings all day Friday and Saturday.

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I think about that last one probably the most. blah, blah, blah. Mine is everything. I found that I like being penetrated. Never liked it before GRS, but all the rest is just as important as well. And then all I can say is that this was 1 million percent worth it. Despite having to fly to Thailand, pay out of pocket and the recovery, I would not change anything if I had to do it all over again.

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So it's one thing to have Jill Biden show up, but it's totally different to have Elon Musk show up and try to be accountable to the press and the cabinet. That is a bridge too far. They are out of line in having Elon there, and you need look no further than today's headlines to figure that out. CNN. Trump's cabinet meeting serves as a backdrop to Musk's power. It's just a backdrop.

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And then the whistleblower says to Rufo, I know several people at the agency brought up, hey, we're here to fight for the USA and go after adversaries. And they just got hammered. They would start coming out with transphobe and homophobe right away or calling you a racist. The guy goes on or gal saying, I don't care if you're politically left or right.

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You can't have an unbiased mind if you're writing a report and you're constantly focused on how does this apply to gender ideology? Because when you do that, it's going to get people killed in the field. That's a good point.

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Trans people should not be serving in the intelligence community in this way. I'm sorry. There's too much of a mental question about their abilities for them to be this close to the nuclear controls and fighting our enemies. This is just I don't think this is an appropriate place for them.

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Trump was like a supporting cast member. New York Times, Musk's cabinet cameo, the elephant in the room wore black. The Guardian, Trump cabinet flunkies hail wannabe Caesar and Elon, his oligarch pal. And let's just give you a little contrast. When Jill Biden attended a cabinet meeting in September. This just passed September 2024. It was Biden's first in 11 months.

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Well, here's a very insightful look at why Trump and Elon are actually taking a hard look at all these government agencies from, yes, the NSA and the intel agencies to USAID to try to figure out who's not doing what they're supposed to be doing and where can we find efficiencies. And in coordination with people like Tulsi, like Pete, like all the agency heads to figure out

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What are the problems in personnel? Like, let's just start there by cleaning up the personnel. So here's an insightful take we got last night on CNN with this another racist. This guy, he's a race baiter. He lost his show on MSNBC. It was too much for them years ago named Trey, but now has been resurrected over on CNN where they're taking their rejects from MSNBC. Good luck, Joy. Give it a try.

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Meanwhile, this Ture looks very confused. What do you mean? Why are you saying he's in charge of the military? I would take my point, which is whatever he does with the military is unconstitutional.

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Look at her sitting at the head of the table. The CNN headline was not cabinet meeting serves as backdrop to Jill Biden's power. It was Joe Biden directs cabinet to run through the tape in legacy burnishing meeting. And then 21 paragraphs in, they mention First Lady Jill Biden shared an update on a women's health research initiative. New York Times, did they mention Jill? No, not a word.

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Same, I would listen to the podcast just to see what insanity was being spewed.

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And they fully played the Hitler card until he bent the knee at Mar-a-Lago, both of them, and kissed Hitler's ring. I said, oh, what do you mean?

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Well, yeah, I mean, at some point, even the MSNBC audience has got to get tired about being wrong about everything. It's just embarrassing if you just keep taking Rachel Maddow's information, repeating it in the public and then have, you know, your pants effectively pulled down on you. You've made a clown out of yourself. Let's spend a minute on The Washington Post.

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So Jeff Bezos, I find this interesting. Of course, the Washington Post is hard left now and has been for some time since the first Trump presidency, at least. And he's owned it for almost all of that time. And now he shows up at the inauguration. He, like the other tech titans, made a big donation to the Trump inauguration fund.

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He's got his half-dressed fiance there, two steps from the president as he takes the oath of office, because now he wants to be near power. He wants to curry favor with the sitting president. So he both gave money and paraded a naked woman in front of President Trump. And now the third move is he's changing the editorial policy on the Washington Post opinion page.

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He writes this long message on X, which reads in part as follows. We are going to be writing every day in support of and in defense of two pillars, personal liberties. My interpretation of that is the Bill of Rights and free markets, free markets, meaning capitalism and not government control of everything in our economy.

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We will cover other topics, too, of course, but viewpoints opposing those pillars will be left to be published by others. There was a time when a newspaper, especially one that was a local monopoly, might have seen it as a service to bring to the reader's doorstep every morning a broad based opinion section that sought to cover all views. Today, the Internet does that job.

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I am of America and for America and proud to be so. Wow, really? Our country did not get here by being typical. And a big part of America's success has been freedom in the economic realm and everywhere else. Freedom is ethical. It minimizes coercion and practical. It drives creativity, invention, and prosperity. I mean, great. There's not a word of that that you or I would disagree with.

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But where the hell was this Jeff Bezos for the past 10 years? His paper has been taken over by a bunch of communists, lunatics. And let me just give you one other piece. They still employ Karen Atiyah. who is a Washington Post columnist, who the day after 10-7 and the attack on Israel, liked a post that said, this is what decolonization looks like. What did y'all think we meant by decolonization?

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too bad about the dead babies burned in their cribs. Sorry, that's what we meant. And if you didn't get it, you're too stupid to know that. And Karen Atiyah, not for nothing, but she showed up at a book event just the other day in, I don't know where the town was. I think it was in Washington. Yeah, it was in Washington, D.C. And this woman got on her grill about that tweet and the like.

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And all of Karen Atiyah's posts have been very pro-Hamas. And And this is how Karen Atiyah, this is Jeff Bezos' employee, defends herself and what we just witnessed with this woman who got in her grill. Let's play Sod 8.

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The Guardian, who's so upset now about how the flunkies hailed the wannabe Caesar and Elon, his oligarch, nothing. Didn't say one word. But Elon, bridge too far.

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especially if you're black. So that's too simple. I, I'm not, I'm failing to sense the true leaf turning buck. I know he wants to fig leaf it. Yay. Now I'm pro individual liberties and yay. Now I'm pro free markets.

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How on earth do you have a paper like that, that up until about two minutes ago employed Jennifer Rubin, she quit of her own volition, but he's gladly platform that insane lunatic for years.

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I don't believe him for one second. I believe his critics who say this is about saving and currying advantage for his other businesses like Amazon, which is potentially facing an antitrust problem. Can I throw one origin? This is ridiculous. And by the way, just one other point, but I'll give it back to you. Sure, sure.

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Karen Atiyah then throwing in the race card at the end, like they really come down on you if you support Hamas. It's really outrageous. Yes, it is. It's amazing how we don't like people who support terror against innocence, but especially if you're black. OK, she can't get over it. She's got to play the race card in her little D.C. book event like

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I'm really getting it because of my black skin, not because of my support for these baby killers. It's because I'm black. Poor me. Until he roots out people like that, I don't believe him for one second that he's committed to anything different than what he's been doing. I believe the people who say he's worried about his other businesses. Go ahead, Buck.

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OK, but he's he's had the physical transformation now for a number of years. So where where was the where did it manifest?

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Look, it would be great to have him on team sanity because he is a powerful man. He's a very important American and he does own The Washington Post. I will believe it when I see it. And so far, I don't believe it. I just whatever. He hasn't proven it yet.

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The White House announced this week that they are going to decide who's in the White House press pool. not the press. Now, the press pool for those listening at home is a group of representatives from television, radio, yes, now streaming and print reporters, usually a wire service like AP Reuters. And it's a small group of representatives from each one of those groups.

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realms of media that gets to follow the president around at all times in the more not in like the residence of the White House, but like in the more intimate spaces like the Oval or on the trips, something you're not going to take everybody who's in that press briefing room with you when you're the president United States.

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But pool, if you're part of pool, you get to go and it is your responsibility to report everything he does back to all the other media and the public. And the pool reporting job is very important. It's you know, the pool was is the reason we saw Ronald Reagan get shot. They were covering Ronald Reagan.

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I mean, he wasn't doing anything extraordinary that day, but pool was there because they always have eyes on the president. Pool was there covering even, you know, President Trump when he got shot before he actually got reelected in Butler, Pennsylvania. Pool has to be there. And as a. former reporter at Fox News. And I did White House duty when I was in my very young years there, here and there.

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Pool is like a serious responsibility. You can't fuck up pool. Like you really do have to get it right. And typically the media will decide who can do pool because it's very expensive and everybody understands it's important that you get somebody in there who's really going to tell you what happened.

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So I will say for the record, I don't know how I feel about the White House saying we're not now going to decide who's in pool. It's not the same as saying we're going to bring in new voices to the press briefing room. I love all that. But I actually happen to believe the media should decide who's in pool because it's a matter of resources. It's just the TV lane alone.

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There's the revolt over Washington Post owner Jeff Bezos putting his stamp on the outlet's opinion page. And there is the ongoing Doge saga as Elon Musk starred in President Trump's first cabinet meeting yesterday. They are horrified that someone who's not in the cabinet would show up at the cabinet meeting and actually try to run herd on this thing.

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And they seem to be saying TV will not change. TV will decide who's doing TV. But the number of wires you've got to get in there to get the cameras ready, getting an experienced photog in there to make sure he gets moments like, God forbid, there's a presidential assassination attempt. You can't fuck around with that. You need true pros who have got a lot of experience.

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you know, setting up a shot, being ready for breaking news. I speak only from the TV realm because that's the one I know. I got questions about this before I really endorse it or criticize it, but... The media's in a full-on meltdown over it.

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And what they're upset about is that they, the vaunted media, are starting to lose more and more control about how Trump gets covered and in what way he gets covered. And the more I've been looking at the people objecting, the more I've been recoiling. Because the absurdity of some of these people trying to say, like, we, we are the vaunted media who cannot, you know, be told what to do.

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The head... of the white house correspondence association is a guy named Eugene Daniels. He worked for Politico up until like yesterday, Politico. Now he's leaving to go to MSNBC. Okay. This guy, we just pulled his social media. He is all over his social media in dresses, trying to look like Beyonce. This is a former college football player. Look at this guy.

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This is the one who's now our press representative at the White House. Look, look at this. For the listening audience, he's wearing a Beyonce blonde wig with his very large body, sticking his ass out, trying to look sexy, half man, half woman. This, okay. And it's also the same guy who accused Brian Kilmeade of racism when he was talking about Kamala Harris going back to her college sorority.

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And this guy said, Brian said, colored sorority. and ran with that breathlessly to the press trying to embarrass Brian Kilmeade. Meanwhile, what an absurd thing for Brian Kilmeade to be accused of. He's been on the air for how many years? He doesn't talk like that. We all know that. And even this guy was forced to dial it back.

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But what do you make of what's happening now as the press and press pool tries to pretend they cannot be messed with? They're above it all. All we need to do is respect and honor them.

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The other thing about this that makes me somewhat uncomfortable, and I'm all for pushing back on left-wing bias. I don't have to prove that to anybody, but I do think the independence of the press is important. I realize the press has lost its mind, but it's written right into the Bill of Rights. Free press is one of our most fundamental values.

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And I'm not sure I'm comfortable with the White House saying, this is who will cover me. This is who I will allow to cover me at all. It's one thing to say to the AP, F you, you've lost your right to be in these intimate spaces. Right. But there is a difference in saying we will decide, not you members of the press, who gets to come into every space and ask questions of the president.

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I mean, we could be in a Democrat administration next where they're like nobody other than MSNBC and, you know, the AP can have access and ask questions.

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And it's always in there. Fox is always looking at the situation. This White House is not they haven't thrown out all left wing media. It's almost still the pool that they want. Dominant left wing media. I'm just saying the principle of it. If we're going to discuss the principle of it, we're on dangerous ground here.

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I agree with that, but that's different. That's different. President Trump is more accessible to the press than any president I've ever seen. I mean, every day he sits down and gives an hour long Q&A session. So help me understand, what's the worry? What's the worry? Well, let's just say, I mean, pick some random blogger in your head.

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I don't want to insult anybody by naming a name, but just pick some random successful online substack reporter or podcast host who's pooled that day and is supposed to be reporting on the president's agenda or in his whereabouts.

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And let's say some major breaking news happens and that person happens to have a more partisan agenda, which is fine in our daily media, but you know, a somewhat risky for pool. Like I certainly wouldn't want to receive a report that is openly partisan. It's bad enough when I have to receive one that's subtly partisan from the AP. Um,

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And so I, as a reporter who wants straight facts, would be like, okay, I don't really want a political pundit, somebody who's in the business of spinning in their running pool for me. I really don't. And I realize now we're talking fine lines here because the AP is in the business of spinning. So that's why we need a variety.

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But I'm saying that there are responsibilities when you're like the sole pool reporter. Like at times there's one pool reporter who we depend on to tell us what happened to the president. Like what happened? Who shot him? Who did?

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And I do think there needs to be a basic minimum standard of having had experience covering the president, having covered the White House, coming from an institution that can cover the costs. By the way, you can't be in pool unless you can cover your own costs, which can be over $100,000 a year.

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I agree. I agree. But it's not for the president to decide who gets to cover him. We will cover him because we are the press. But who's we?

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So I don't understand- Because it's the White House Press Association. It's the Correspondents Association. Why, like, it's one thing, everybody, look, and I have no problem with him throwing out the AP, but it's different when the president is saying, I get to choose who's going to cover me. I'll choose the whole list. Once you say you can do that, then he can say only Fox and Newsmax. He could.

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If we're saying that's an OK thing to do, he could say that. And then the next president could say only MSNBC and NBC or AP. I don't I think when it gets to who goes into that pool and who is responsible for the full time coverage of the press or the president whenever and whenever he's in the public, it should be up to the press who's on that duty.

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Well, in this situation, it's the White House Correspondents Association.

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Well, I mean, are you, like Fox News is in it. Jackie Henrich has been out there all week saying this is not a good idea. This is not, you don't understand what goes in a pool. I mean, do you know what goes in a pool? I'm not saying there aren't good people. Most people have no idea.

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And I think Trump wants her to add to it. Then that's fine. Then you add two more seats and pull. Maybe you have like seven representatives normally. Now you have nine. But I just think there's a lot that goes into following the president of the United States around all day, every day on foreign trips and so on. And I really think there's something to both a having.

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People do it from institutions that completely have it down. You don't know how many meetings go down. I've been in them at Fox on the number of things you have to have in line to make sure you miss nothing. The tech support you have to do to make sure that you have the cameras in place and so on. That's one.

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And as much as we like President Trump, there is a line between the press and the president and he does not control the media.

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Well, look, that's where I started. That's why I talk about this guy, Eugene Daniels, like this is what we're dealing with. But realistically, if you saw the way they organize this thing, it takes a lot. And you cannot take an organization that doesn't have a lot of resources or experience and make them the ones we're dependent on.

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Yeah, well, listen, I think my audience knows I'm not a knee-jerk defender of the press. But I'm not a knee-jerk defender of the president either. And there is an important role for an independent press in this country. That's why it's in the First Amendment. And there are limits to the controls that can be placed on them.

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And so while I think it's a great idea to expand access and make sure we get new voices in there, I don't think the president is in a position to tell us who gets to cover him the entirety of the list, which is the difference between saying AP, you're out and saying we determine all of who is in. To me, there's a difference there. All right.

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Anyway, we used our time on the media, but it was an interesting discussion. And Buck, it's always interesting talking to you. Thank you.

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All right, we'll talk soon. And thanks to all of you. We'd love your thoughts on the president's moves at the White House. And when it comes to the press, send me an email, megan at megankelly.com. We are back tomorrow with Emily Jashinsky and the ladies of Red Scare. See you then. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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So I think that they just dig the hole deeper. Everybody said Twitter was going to close. Now it's efficient. It's got... 20% of the staff it used to, and it's a success.

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I want to continue it down this line, and we'll talk more about what happened at the cabinet meeting, but just as an offshoot to Doge and what Elon's doing, one of the agencies he's been looking at, obviously, is USAID, this agency that we use to funnel all sorts of foreign aid to God knows whom.

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That's really what we're finding out, these pet causes of the Democrats that have been getting slush funded for years. And there was a hearing on this yesterday on Capitol Hill, Buck, and listen to this exchange. You've got Representative Tim Burchett, Republican of Tennessee, questioning now former USAID executives on where the money was going. Listen to this.

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Like this person thinks that they're in the cabinet and they're not actually in the cabinet and how dare they do that. It's very upsetting and it's totally inappropriate unless your name is Jill Biden. in which case it's very laudable and good for her, or we didn't even notice it.

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So that first guy's a think tank guy. That second guy was at USAID. It's unbelievable where this money's been going. We're funding Hamas.

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Why am I funding through through this group Hamas's murder of Israeli babies? I object. I'm funding the murder of the Bebis boys. F you, anybody who supports this organization at this point. This is such an outrage that this was allowed to happen in the first place for anyone to have the gall to object to the questioning of it now, nevermind the shutting down by Elon and Trump.

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They don't have their moral head on straight. This is outrageous. The entire country should be up in arms that we've been doing this. And instead, we get ridiculous headlines like I just read to you about why Elon is at a cabinet meeting. It's infuriating, Buck. You're right. What you said is right.

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They're more obsessed with being anti-Trump, anti-Elon than they are in figuring out what the true morality is of what's being exposed.

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As President Trump begins his new administration, one of the top Democrats in Congress aiming to undermine the Trump agenda is Senator Dick Durbin. And according to our sponsor, the Electronic Payments Coalition, Senator Durbin has a new scheme, a government takeover of your credit card.

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Yeah. It broke the other day. Chris Rufo, who's an amazing force for good in the country, had a whistleblower come to him out of NSA saying, here are a bunch of texts from internal chat servers showing an obsession within our national security agencies with being trans, with

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Sex like gay sex with calling themselves not just like by the wrong pronouns, but insisting that these random people who work for us in the highest levels of our intelligence agencies want to be known as it. I'm an it. I'm not even a he or she. It absolutely raunchy, disgusting talk.

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And the explanation is that they've gotten so obsessed with like Pride Month and the so-called tolerance of the LGBTQ crowd that this went on without fear on these company, these company internal chat forums until somebody just blew the whistle. And Tulsi Gabbard actually said, everyone's getting fired who participated in that. I'll play that soundbites at one and then you take it out.

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This wasn't your internal chitchat when you were there? You were not discussing how great it would be to have a An intersex baby so that you can raise him trans like some of the messages here. An intersex birth would be a great opportunity to raise a kid as a non-binary and let them choose later.

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This is when after they're discussing trans surgeries and their excitement about, quote, being penetrated. That wasn't the chitchat you saw on the internal servers back then.

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President Trump warning federal employees he's serious about identifying fraud and abuse as his administration issues a directive to all agency heads, prepare plans for a massive reduction in workforce.

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Department heads are ultimately responsible for how their employees are to respond, though Mr. Trump issuing a warning that some kind of pulse check must be done.

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Yesterday morning, the Office of Personnel Management, which oversees government employees, sent a letter to all agency heads ordering them to, quote, undertake preparations to initiate large scale reductions in force, end quote. The plans are due no later than March 13th. President Trump eyeing a new tariff target, the European Union, saying the details will be released at a later date.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Thursday, February 27th, 2025, and this is your AM Update.

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But his administration is looking at 25 percent. Let's be honest.

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Mr. Trump citing a $300 billion trade deficit. The EU Trade Commissioner responding quickly that they're ready to do a deal, potentially reducing their 10% tariff on American cars. Politico reporting, quote,

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The EU is prepared to consider a much bigger deal with Trump that could potentially include tech regulatory issues and certain non-trade concerns, such as EU member states increasing their spending on defense, end quote. From the EU over to North America. President Trump addressing the Tuesday deadline to implement 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico over fentanyl trafficking.

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Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick later clarifying if Mexico and Canada can prove they've done an excellent job cutting down on fentanyl trafficking, then Mr. Trump may extend the pause on tariffs. President Trump also announcing the latest development on the Ukrainian deal, including a visitor to the White House tomorrow.

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Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth promises accountability at last for the botched Afghanistan withdrawal that resulted in 13 dead service members. House and Senate Republicans fight it out on the Hill to work out a budget that cuts taxes, lowers spending and doesn't touch Medicaid. But can they actually pull that off? With the deadline to a shutdown looming, the showdown is just getting started.

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Fox News reporting prior to the cabinet meeting, Mr. Zelensky, quote, vowed to resolve the issue around NATO, saying he is looking to either join the alliance or something similar. But NATO entry is fully off the table, according to President Trump. Mr. Trump affirming the Russians' claims that repeated talks of Ukrainian entry into NATO provoked the invasion to begin with. Vice President J.D.

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Vance chiming in to chide the media for criticizing the negotiations.

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Mr. Trump saying sanctions on Russia would not be lifted during the negotiation and pushing back on claims that allowing the Russians to keep any Ukrainian territory sets a dangerous precedent with China.

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The president declined to share any specific concessions he would like to see from Russia. The Afghanistan withdrawal getting a lot of airtime in the cabinet meeting from Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, who was seated just to the left of the president.

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The chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan resulted in 13 service members killed and 40 more gravely wounded in a suicide attack on Abbey Gate. Thousands of Afghani citizens who helped U.S. forces were abandoned, billions of dollars worth of military equipment left behind, and Bagram Air Force Base left vacant.

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Under the Biden administration, the only official who faced any accountability for the disastrous withdrawal was Lieutenant Colonel Stuart Scheller, who went viral in a video criticizing the administration for the chaos. President Trump telling reporters he will not direct Secretary Hegseth on what to do, but he says if it were him making the decision, he would fire every general involved.

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The military equipment left behind a persistent point of controversy for the president.

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Mr. Trump has instructed Secretary Hegseth to study the issue. Coming up, House and Senate Republicans trying to work out a budget that cuts taxes, lowers spending, and doesn't touch Medicaid. And a major vibe shift at The Washington Post, rocking corporate media. Are rising costs or scaling challenges holding you back? Are you having trouble taking your business to the next level?

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All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update. As President Trump begins his new administration, one of the top Democrats in Congress aiming to undermine the Trump agenda is Senator Dick Durbin. And according to our sponsor, the Electronic Payments Coalition, Senator Durbin has a new scheme, a government takeover of your credit card.

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Book your free business review today to transform your operations, grow your profits, and secure your future. Visit fysi.com slash Megan or call 1-800-877-4000. Success starts with FYSI. A tough budgeting process underway on Capitol Hill. On Tuesday, the House voting by a very slim margin, 217 to 215, to pass a budget plan that is now being weighed by the Senate.

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The House plan is a framework laying out priorities, but not setting binding budget terms. Not yet. It's an outline beginning the incredibly tedious process of designing and negotiating a budget. This one calls for up to $2 trillion in spending cuts over a decade and up to $4.5 trillion in tax cuts.

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The Senate side, already taking issue with the blueprint, allowing only $4.5 trillion of cuts in taxes, is too low a ceiling to make the 2017 Trump tax cuts permanent. Negotiations further strained by promises from President Trump that Medicaid, the federal health insurance program for low-income Americans, will not be cut.

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However, House Republicans are calling for $880 billion in cuts to come from the Energy and Commerce Committee, which oversees Medicaid. The New York Times reports even if that committee cut everything that's not health care down to zero, it would still mean more than $600 billion would need to be cut from Medicaid. President Trump commenting on concerns about cutting Medicaid.

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Eliminating waste, fraud, and abuse is a top priority of the Trump administration. The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services estimates in fiscal year 2024, Medicaid completed $31 billion, billion with a B, in improper payments.

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Beyond these sticking points, there are still hundreds of details to be worked out, including President Trump's desire to end taxes on tips, on overtime, and on Social Security benefits. House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries indicating on Tuesday that the budget will not have any Democrat support.

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Today, Americans have thousands of choices in credit cards, but they say Senator Durbin's plan will result in less competition and less security. And that means more risk to your credit and your identity. Learn more at guardyourcard.org and consider telling your senators to stop Dick Durbin's government takeover of your credit card before it's too late.

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If House and Senate GOP members are able to come to an agreement on a final bill, which is not yet certain, it will be passed through a fast-track process that avoids the Senate filibuster, meaning it will only require a simple majority to pass. There is much more back and forth to come. The deadline to pass a new budget is March 14th. That's just two weeks and one day away.

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Later today, Senate Majority Leader John Thune will bring the Protection of Women and Girls in Sports Act to the floor. The news broke on The Megyn Kelly Show yesterday. Alabama Senator Tommy Tuberville introduced this bill multiple times before under President Biden and now President Trump. The bill will enshrine President Trump's executive orders protecting female sports into law.

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The bill defines sex as based on biological sex at birth, not one's feelings about one's so-called gender. It requires federally funded schools to prohibit males from from competing in girls' sports. Every GOP senator is expected to vote yes. The first step, though, is a cloture vote, a vote on whether they should have a vote at all on the actual bill.

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That requires 60 votes to pass, meaning seven Democrats will have to join with the Republicans. This is where many bills die and why it is hard to pass legislation in the Senate without 60 seats as opposed to 51. 79% of Americans support a measure to prevent biological males from competing in girls' and women's sports. President Trump is prepared to sign this bill should it pass into law.

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Jeff Bezos, owner of the Washington Post, announcing significant changes to the opinion page. Mr. Bezos pending a letter to the Post staff yesterday morning that reads, quote, We are going to be writing every day in support and defense of two pillars, personal liberties and free markets.

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We will cover other topics, too, of course, but viewpoints opposing those pillars will be left to be published by others. Mr. Bezos justifying the change, saying, though it was once the job of a newspaper to deliver varying viewpoints, now the Internet does that. He also believes viewpoints embracing free markets and personal liberties are underserved in the current market.

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The former editor of the opinion page, David Shipley, was offered the option to stay on. Mr. Bezos says Shipley declined. Chief economics reporter Jeff Stein said,

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calls the move a massive encroachment by Jeff Bezos, saying, quote, I still have not felt encroachment on my journalism on the news side of coverage, but if Bezos tries interfering with the news side, I will be quitting immediately and letting you know. Tech reporter and all-around troll Kara Swisher posting to Blue Sky, quote, I told you all Jeff Bezos was feral.

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He's now killed the First Amendment and basic humanity in a vomitous spew of nonsense. Philip Bump, columnist at The Post, writing on Blue Sky, what the actual F. Former executive editor of The Post, Marty Baron, telling The Daily Beast he's sad and disgusted by the move. There is no doubt in my mind that he is doing this out of fear of the consequences for his other business interests.

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Those other interests include... his ownership of Amazon, Whole Foods, and aerospace company Blue Origin. The post reportedly lost more than 500,000 subscribers since 2021, down from 3 million. That'll do it for your AM Update. I'm Megyn Kelly.

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President Trump opening up his first cabinet meeting to the press yesterday morning. Plenty of issues covered from foreign to domestic. Elon Musk, not in the cabinet, was in attendance. President Trump handing him the floor early on to take questions on Doge. Mr. Musk was asked if there was a timeline in place for next steps on the what did you do last week email.

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Join me back here for The Megyn Kelly Show, live on SiriusXM Triumph Channel 111 at noon east and on youtube.com slash Megyn Kelly, as well as all podcast platforms.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and today's true crime Christmas special. Hope you and your family had a great Christmas. And now you can relax and unwind with the latest on the case of the alleged Idaho murderer Brian Kohlberger.

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I mean, the whole crime took between like 12 and 18 minutes at most. And who was it? Who was it? How, why don't they have a suspect? A lot of pressure on law enforcement. And the suggestion by the defense seems to be the FBI understanding and feeling that pressure. when it should have been limited, we've had CeCe Moore who invented genetic genealogy.

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She's the one who came up with this amazing technique, which has solved a lot of crimes that she told me directly, you are only allowed when you're pursuing these leads to access this public database of DNA. So if you go and you, let's say you go to 23andMe or you go to ancestry.com or any of these public companies, and you want to get your genealogy and you give them your DNA,

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They're not allowed to share that with anybody. But if you say, share with everybody, or if you go upload your DNA on this public database, then that's different. Some people really want it to be everywhere. Some people are looking for their birth mother and their adopters. They want it in as many places as possible. You're using a website, not 23andMe, not Ancestry.com, called GEDmatch.

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And my understanding is the way you populated this GEDmatch, because you point out you need as many samples on there as possible, is by encouraging people who are into this, who would like to connect with other relatives, to take their 23andMe, their Ancestry.com results, and upload them to GEDmatch to widen the chances that they'll connect with somebody.

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The public database is more limited in some ways than those private databases, which are more protected. And she was saying, you know, it's kind of a frustration that you can't get into those privates, but that's the way it is. You're limited as a genetic genealogy, genealogist to this public database.

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The suggestion here seems to be maybe an overzealous FBI crossed those lines and not, I don't know with which company, but crossed those lines in a way that they are not allowed to do.

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Well, let's talk about that because it's very interesting to me to think about if the FBI crossed a line, which is where the defense is driving, they're saying, why wouldn't you just turn over exactly what happened in your genetic genealogy search? There's no reason for us to not know exactly how you got the name Brian Kohlberger or more specifically his dad's name. And they won't.

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They have been fighting this at every step of the way. It's very weird. If they didn't do anything wrong, why would just show it? Just turn it over. But they've been they asked Judge Judge. They've been asking. And now they ask the new judge like they've been trying at every turn to try to get this info over the FBI. Well, now the prosecution's objections because the argument will be.

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We used to have this in law school. If you obtain evidence through an illegal search, you can't use it as the prosecutor. It's barred. You can't violate the Constitution and just go into somebody's house and search for the murder weapon without having a search warrant. That's because people have constitutional rights to privacy, etc. Your Fourth Amendment rights.

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But there's an exception to this rule, which is if you can prove, it's called inevitable discovery, that we inevitably would have discovered this person anyway, then you can get past having your case thrown out and the evidence you're trying to get in, you can potentially get it in as well.

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And this is why, for example, Matt Murphy, who's a 27-year prosecutor in the state of California, we've had him on the show a bunch of times, I asked him about this when you broke the news, Howard, about this is where the defense is going. This is why Matt Murphy does not think this will be an issue for team prosecution. Even if the FBI crossed lines, I'm going to run the soundbite standby.

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Here it is. So you're saying even if they detected Brian Kohlberger's dad by doing something untoward, by maybe accessing some database they shouldn't have, the feds and so on, that you still like the prosecution's chances because they were driving at Brian Kohlberger through more than just the DNA on the knife sheath. And he would have been inevitably discovered.

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Protect your savings with Birch Gold. Text MK to 989898 and claim your eligibility for free silver today. Joining me now, Howard Bloom. Howard, great to see you again. All right, so we now finally think we have a trial date and that this thing is gonna start August 11th, 2025.

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So, Howard, are you feeling are you hearing more confidence that this is a problem from the defense team?

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It's been moved to Boise out of Moscow and they're estimating it's gonna take till, I mean, they got very specific, November 7th, August 11th to November 7th. That's all that can change, but it's been moved. And it's finally set. It's taken forever. I know the families, some of them, are annoyed that it has taken this long to finally get a trial date.

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Oh, very. Well, I'm trying to think what role a confidential source could have in this case. How could one be even tangentially connected to this case? And all I could think is that there is a potential defense line of argument that this house was allegedly somehow connected to drugs or drug dealers. And maybe there's a witness who's going to say that.

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I don't think that will make it in front of a jury. I think that's the kind of thing you make in a written motion to the judge to exclude the DNA as a matter of law from coming in. And I think the judge is going to overrule that he's going to reject that motion for the reasons Matt Murphy said. And then if they say, well, we want to at least argue it to the jury.

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I'm not sure it's relevant because they did an actual cheek swab of him. I mean, maybe you could argue it's relevant if you want to show this is a bumbling FBI that has a pattern of crossing lines. I don't I haven't heard anything else that would support that. So I don't think a judge would allow that.

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But right now, I think it's just it's interesting as a matter of law for a motion, not something you could get in front of a jury.

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Do we know anything I said before that we think that the knife sheath is the only DNA? But do we know that? I mean, they did a lot of searching of his apartment, of his car, of the bodies.

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Right, just to muck it up a little bit for the jury so it's not so clear-cut. Found a knife sheath. The DNA matches this guy right now because we did a cheek swab and it was a perfect match. They'd like to skip whatever happened in the interim.

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And I predict this one will probably be pushed, too. But now we have a new judge. Judge Judge is gone. And Judge Hippner, I think, is in. Hippler. Hippler. Hippler. It's like very close to the other name that sounds just like that, I've got to say. And so where do things stand? How do you like where the defense is at this point so close now to potential trial?

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Add that to the confidential witnesses. It's right in which we don't know. But this whole thing that we're discussing about the genetic genealogy took a turn for the better for the defense with this change of venue. How so?

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Judge wanted. I mean, we had Judge Judge. We have Ann Taylor, defense lawyer. And now we have Judge Hippler again. It just, it reminds me of my friend. Her last name was Laden. She had a baby boy. She named him Quinn, Quinn Laden. That's no, just don't, you don't want to come anywhere near it. Stay away. Change it to hip nerve. That's my advice to this judge. Okay.

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So anyway, so now we're going to go ahead and Boise, uh, supposedly on August 11th and there just was a motion, uh, That and I think it's granted that Brian Kohlberger in all the pretrial appearances and at the trial will be allowed to appear in a suit. They're not going to make him wear his prison clothes. And we recently got another look at him because he had to have another mugshot taken.

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It's just like Menendez, really. We've been covering that case, too, with Leslie Abramson and Eric Menendez. She would do that with the arm around him. Poor Eric is this poor kid who was abused, trying to telegraph to the jury, this guy deserves your sympathy, not your condemnation. I'm not sure that's going to fly here. He does have a family, though.

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Yeah, well, I just feel like it's probably not her. But the reason I thought of it is, of course, she has access to a bunch of people getting advanced degrees and degrees in criminology. And as we've seen there, this isn't the first time this has happened there. There can be a fine line between criminologist and criminal.

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And it wouldn't be outside the realm of possibility to think maybe someone like the feds or law enforcement would go to somebody like that pre Brian Kohlberger and say, let us know if anybody comes across your radar who you've got concerns about. And it could just be something where now they're protecting her. This is total speculation by me is probably more than likely.

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I don't, I mean, I guess so. It's just very hard to respond to irrational behavior with a rational explanation. I know juries would want it, but it's like, look at what Jeffrey Dahmer did. Like it makes no sense to any sane human being. This guy, if he did this crime is a sick puppy. And so it's like, are we ever going to explain this? But yeah, I mean, you've come as close as anybody.

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I mean, that's why we love reading your work, both your book and your articles for airmail. Thank you. Just spin a theory that really draws you in. It makes a lot of sense. I mean, that just he was on the outside looking in at these amazingly beautiful women living this life he would never live. And he was a tortured soul. This we know about the guy, whether he committed the murder or not.

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If he hadn't left behind that knife sheath, this would be a very different case. It would be so hard because we've never found a murder weapon. All they would have would have been the car evidence. And as you point out, if it's really only going to show that his car came within 13 miles of the murder home, that's not going to get it done. It's that knife sheath.

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and the reports that he bought this K-bar knife, a K-bar knife, online on Amazon, what, two months before. Those are the two best pieces of evidence.

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I missed the other great piece of evidence against him. And that is the fact that he was stuffing his trash into little baggies to dispose of at the neighbor's house the night the FBI and the local law enforcement came into his house in the Poconos to arrest him. Yeah.

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So because the prosecution is going to say he ordered the knife, the K-bar knife in the sheath two months earlier on Amazon, whatever the date was, it wasn't that long in advance. He ordered a workman's suit, which is also in the news. He got like a full body worker suit and neither the murder weapon nor that suit have ever been found, not in Brian's apartment, not at the scene, nowhere.

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Um, but he took a circuitous route from the murder scene back to the university of Idaho is as long, you know, tree covered highway easily could have pulled over and disposed of this stuff someplace in the woods where we could never find. And it, by the way, if, where is the worker suit? If he didn't do any nefarious, anything nefarious in it, why didn't we find it when he searched his apartment?

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Where's the knife? Why wouldn't, why didn't we find that when we searched his apartment? Um, and that's the reason that it wasn't all over him.

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And I think the prosecution is going to say his DNA was found at the murder scene on the knife sheath, not on a clock radio, not on a shoe, on the button of the knife sheath. And then the defense is going to say, touch DNA. Whereas you point out in your airmail articles that the amount of touch DNA they got is the tiniest, tiniest molecule, like not even a fleck of dust.

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I don't know why true crime is a getaway of sorts, but it kind of is. It just takes your mind off of what's going on in your own life, the to-do list that's constantly humming, and lets you focus on something else that's serious that requires attention, and in this case, a bit of a mystery too. There's a lot to dig into with Howard Bloom.

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And by the way, anyone could have touched that knife sheath in the store from which it came. Exactly. Anybody.

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Well, and then you've got him. That's why I think it's interesting that he's, I don't know, working on his look. I imagine Ann Taylor is going to have him shave that facial hair growing all over his neck in addition to his face prior to trial and make him clean shaven again. But he'll be sitting there presumably clean shaven.

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I mean, it's hard to say he's an attractive man given what we believe he did. But, you know, objectively speaking, he's not a terrible looking man. And he'll have his nice suit on. I'm sure he'll be... you know, with the arm around him from Ann Taylor and his family right behind him, which they seem like nice people trying to project. I'm an all American boy. I was getting my Ph.D.

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I I was preparing for a life of fighting crime, not committing crime, not murdering four people within what, nine to 12 minutes, whatever it was for no reason.

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Well, and also you're reporting about, because the jury will likely hear this. This will come in. Not all of what we're discussing is going to come into evidence, but the jury will more than likely hear the story about how things were on a downward spiral at the University of Washington for him. He wasn't just this brilliant PhD student, TA for the criminology department.

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One of the attorneys... This is big. Just to set this up. you broke this in airmail, as we mentioned in the intro, where you write. And it has to do with the knife sheath, the one piece of DNA evidence that we know of that was found in this case. And what we know now is that what they say is they found the knife sheath, they had it tested for DNA, and

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I don't think Brian Kohlberger is going to take the stand. And so his side of that story is going to be limited to whatever he wrote in emails in defense of himself to his professors. But I mean, you lay it out how these professors had had enough of Brian Kohlberger and they had actually terminated him from the PhD slash TA program right before the murders.

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But before the murders, Howard, he was... So maybe he didn't get the termination prior to the murders, but he knew at the time of the murders...

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If I were the prosecutor, I'd stand up there, and I mean, I don't know how it works in Idaho, but in New York, the prosecutor gets two bites of the apple. You do the first closing, then the defense stands up and does their closing, and then you get a rebuttal at the end where you get the last word because you have the burden of proof. And I would say it's true.

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Brian Kohlberger did overcome obesity and he did overcome his heroin addiction. You know what he did not overcome? The severe night terrors and torture, self-torture that's been going through his brain since the time he was 16, where he said he feels like a piece of dead meat, where he said, when I hug my father, I feel nothing.

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This is a sociopath who is more than capable of these crimes, whose antisocial behaviors got to the point where they could no longer be ignored or not noticed by the students that were in the class for which he was a TA, by those above him who had been rooting for him, with whom he knew he had to curry good favor but couldn't maintain the ruse any longer.

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They found touch DNA on it, which is legit, but not like the best. And they were able to get a hit in some DNA database that brought up the name Kohlberger, in particular Kohlberger's dad. And they could say this was the DNA of the killer's father. So they're claiming that was when that's what, you know, eventually brought us to Kohlberger. That's sort of where we thought it was.

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And ultimately, this came to a boil inside of him because of the vibrance of these girls, the beauty of these girls, the vitality of this foursome living a life he could never live. Who knows whether he met one of them in the vegan restaurant? Who knows whether he met them online or just stalked the Instagram page? We'll find out whether he did for sure in court.

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Was that the one he who's in whose apartment he installed a security system. And then she believed he did that just so he could look at her.

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Well, look, I, for one, I'm just glad it's finally, we think, coming to trial. It's been too long. And I'm sure the families are just absolutely frustrated that, you know, with every passing day, witnesses' memories fade. Even the jurors' memories of the awfulness of this fade, though, that will be brought full front and center to them through pictures. But I'm sure they want justice.

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You know, they want an end to this or at least an end to this phase.

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Now, that's another piece of this process. It's already inconvenient. They got to travel now to Boise, allegedly to protect his rights because the defense did some survey of the locals in Moscow, Idaho, that allegedly suggested they all knew about the case and they allegedly had biases already. I mean, all of that could have been cleansed on jury selection and with the jury instruction.

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I don't think you're going to find people in Boise who've never heard of the case either.

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Yeah, 100 percent. If there's any good news in this for people like you and me, it's that Judge Judge and kicking it up to Boise said at least they're going to have a bigger courtroom which can handle the amount of interest that there will be in this case, which, you know, I mean, honestly, as members of the media, that's that is good. There will be cameras inside of this courtroom.

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It'll be controlled. It'll be one at the back of the courtroom, we're told. But in any event, having access to the actual trial on camera is such a gift. It's definitely going to drive interest in this case. And, you know, in August post the presidential election, I think there's going to be a lot of eyeballs on this.

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Yeah. Well, I like the deadlines. I like the idea of the deadlines. And just to say, I've never heard a judge say it starts on August 11th and it ends on November 7th. Well, I'm not sure that's how it works. Including the penalty phase.

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Well, Howard Bloom, what a pleasure as always. Thank you so much for your great reporting on this case. To be continued. I look forward to it. Thanks for joining us today. Coming up next week, we dive into the Alec Murdoch case and Scott Peterson. Have a great weekend. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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And then they tested his DNA and they say, and that made it clear it was Kohlberger. But you're saying not so fast. There may have been some shenanigans along the chain.

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The FBI- You were like the only person who had that report.

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He's the author of the book, When the Night Comes Falling, which includes much of his extensive and amazing reporting on this case. The big news is a trial is scheduled and it's now just months away. We'll get into that, plus all the avenues the defense is likely to employ when it comes to genetic genealogy, cell phone pings, and much, much more.

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Let me stop you there so we can walk the audience through what you're saying step by step. That was just a shot from a police body cam of them getting pulled over, which they did, was it three times? Three times, right?

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No. So they got pulled over when they were driving. This is post the murders. Brian Kohlberger is driving with his dad cross country back from Washington state to the Poconos, Pennsylvania. And they got pulled over not once, but twice and let go, um, with just, you know, a warning to obey the traffic laws.

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And you reported that the FBI was following him, was watching him during this trip that at one point when he left Washington, uh, state, he, they lost him and they had to retrieve him or find him again. Thanks to like the easy pass data that, you know, it can track the cars and they did find him. Yeah. License plate reader. And so your report was very specific.

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It wasn't just like the FBI knew who he was. So it's logical they were following him. You, you were reporting a no, no, they were following and they had a real decision to make about whether to intervene when the local cops with whom they did not coordinate were

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So because you say you accurately point out, and I think the audience has a good enough feel to know this, the FBI, you're right, they never give statements. I mean, when does the FBI ever come out and say, we deny we were there? They say nothing. They let us as media people pound sand, do absolutely like twist. They don't need to confirm or deny anything.

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It's kind of the way the DOJ operates, same related organization. So on your story, though, and with all due respect to you and airmail, you've owned the story, but like it's not exactly like it was on the cover of The New York Times and they kind of, you know, felt like they had to. they could have blown you off, but they didn't. They come out and they're like, it's not true.

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We weren't following him, which in a way is more telling than if they'd said nothing. And so now you go to what is it? Why would they do that? And then we have to go back on the timeline to figure out why they might be feeling squirrely about Howard Bloom's report that they knew Brian Kohlberger was their suspect. And they knew it well before the,

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They now say they knew it, which was the end of December. Now they want us to believe they didn't have him until the end of December. But you're reporting they had him much earlier than that, thanks to the genetic genealogy and how they made the ID is where...

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I want to just keep this linear line going so people can follow because it's complex. This explains so much because when the case was first unfolding, we were all reading the Howard Bloom updates in airmail like it was your college admissions letter. It was like, you couldn't wait for it to hit. Refresh, refresh. And You reported the genetic genealogy.

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We were hearing, yes, they got him thanks to genetic genealogy and DNA. But NBC News had this explosive dateline right around that time in which Steph Gosk, who's a good reporter... reported that, no, they got him. She wasn't disagreeing with anybody specifically, but she was saying, we've got the, how it went down.

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They got him thanks to identification of the white Hyundai Elantra that some eagle eyed cop who was at the university of Washington, where he was a TA said, saw that this was the car that they were looking for, and just on his downtime, started searching files and found that they did have somebody at the University of Washington.

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And we do believe that this all happened, but what actually led to the identification of Kohlberger and when is what we're trying to get to here. and said, aha, there's one. Let me pull up the description. And there's a guy with bushy eyebrows, which had already been released. So this guy's like, this is great. I'm going to send this in.

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So he sends in the tip or contacts somebody, tries to at the FBI to say, I think I might have somebody you should look at, but that they had a big, big stack of white Hyundai Elantra Elantra's and it took them a while to get to it, but then they did get to it and boom, that's how they eventually figured out it's Brian Kohlberger, bushy eyebrows, eagle eyed guy over at university of Washington.

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And now it seems in retrospect, this is my opinion that that very well may have been the FBI telling her that, but Or Moscow police, which didn't know about the FBI, saying, no, that's how we found him.

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Okay, but before that, when they're still, because yet the audience remembers there was all sorts of pressure on law enforcement to produce the suspect. Who did this crime? Four beautiful, promising Americans were killed on this university campus in the middle of the night. their throats slit, they're stabbed to death within moments.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. 60 Minutes is in serious turmoil thanks to its executive producer, Bill Owens, quitting and publicly throwing a temper tantrum. What happened? Oh, buckle up.

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We'll believe it when you fire literally every correspondent. You can start with Sharon, but Scott Pelley has to go, as do the others. Every correspondent on staff, along with all producers, shred it down to the studs, and we will consider taking you seriously again. Until then, goodbye, Bill. You'll go the way of 60s ratings, out the door, into retirement, never to be seen again.

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Joining me now, our friend and first guest ever on The Megyn Kelly Show, Glenn Greenwald, host of Rumble's System Update. Aren't you tired of the corporate media prioritizing certain narratives or the facts? I mean, I, of course, have been too, and that's why we launched this show, to have real conversations full of tough questions and to get to the truth.

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And it's also why I want to tell you about Ground News, an independent app and website not at the mercy of corporate control. They prioritize transparency so you can compare coverage on any issue and think for yourself instead of letting someone else think for you or manipulate you. They even show important stories that the other side is ignoring.

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The latest meltdown started when Donald Trump filed a $10 billion lawsuit against CBS and its parent company, Paramount, accusing 60 Minutes of unlawful and illegal behavior in what he said was his deceptive editing of the Kamala Harris interview before this last election. You remember they took her word salad answer about Netanyahu and they siphoned it down to make her sound more cogent.

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Knocking the price down to just five bucks a month. Go to groundnews.com slash Megan. That's G-R-O-U-N-D news.com slash Megan to invest a small amount in your ability to think critically about the news. Glenn, welcome back. Your thoughts on Bill Owen's single tier jumping on the grenade to save 60 minutes.

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We caught it because they put out the wrong version of it when they were teasing the interview and then they played a different version when she actually appeared. Most legal analysts, including this one, do not see much of any merit in that lawsuit. But Trump has used it as a cudgel over Paramount, whose owner, Sherry Redstone, is trying to sell the company right now to Skydance.

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Yes, that they willingly, voluntarily gave up in an effort to ruin Trump. And we all watched it. I couldn't agree more. I loved 60 Minutes when I was younger. I loved Mike Wallace. And there's no question that Mike Wallace was a committed liberal Democrat. But his reports on 60 Minutes were great and unsparing.

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And that was still in the age of the Ed Bradleys of the world, where they did not really believe... or at least they were reined in from showing their hard left partisan nature every week when that broadcast began. We put this together a while ago. It bears showing again because it's great. But here's a sample of how Mike Wallace used to do journalism while he was on 60.

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That's what good journalism looks like. He was unsparing. You're sitting across in the Ayatollah and you bust that out on him, you know, like right in people's faces. And instead, what 60 Minutes does now is, yeah, if they've got Donald Trump there, they'll have some hard questions for him. But if you've got Barack Obama,

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You talk about how amazing he is, how wonderful he is, what it's like to be president. If you have Kamala Harris, you do clean up on her answers so she sounds more cogent and together. One of her biggest weaknesses, by the way. So the edit did matter.

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And that sale is going to need government approval. Trump has long complained about 60 Minutes being unfair to him and biased in favor of Democrats. And on that, he is 100% correct. Under Jeff Fager, yes, definitely, but especially under Bill Owens. But before we get to Owens, let's take a quick look back at the Fager years and how 60 treated Barack Obama.

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Hmm. It's so true. You go back to that period of time. It was like they, Oh, the Hunter Biden laptop, not verifiable, even though it's totally verifiable and was later verified even by CBS once everybody else had done it. And at the same time, boosting the Lincoln project and playing their nasty ads without doing any investigation of the people that they were promoting.

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Trump loses, Biden takes over, all that hard-hitting stuff goes by the wayside. The focus turns to Ron DeSantis and boring in on him with a false story. And then it would turn back to Trump. And when Trump won in 2024- Of course, we had more of the same. Here's Scott Pelley.

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This didn't make my little talking points memo, but here he is starting his show in November of 2024, talking about the Trump cabinet picks. Does this sound fair and balanced to you?

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I know I've triggered you with this note in reference there, but it's all bad.

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That's right. I think what happened was they got so far leftward in their drift that it hampered Sherry Redstone's possible ability to sell the company to Skydance. And she said, holy hell, somebody needs to rein these people in. I gave you a very wide berth. I didn't interfere for all this time, but you're so far gone. I might not be able to sell the company now.

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So I'm going to bring in this person to sort of babysit you. And it was a bridge too far for this guy, Bill Owens. And I'm sure this person is just as leftward in her bias as Bill Owens is too, frankly. But at least she's there ostensibly to try to manage what they've been doing wrong. And they can't have it. But it's like, as I said, there's no... Bill Owens or no Bill Owens.

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There's no reinventing 60 unless everybody goes. I mean, you really think Sharon Alfonsi can be reformed? Scott Pelley can be reformed in a way that will allow him to report honestly and fairly?

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Here's another CBS update for you. I don't know if you happen to catch our latest astronauts, Glenn, take their trip to space, literally comparing themselves to Alan Shepard, who walked on the moon. I mean, literally like multiple of our newest astronauts compared themselves to Alan Shepard. Well, it hasn't worked out so well for Gayle King, who's at the opposite end of the time schedule on CBS.

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She's in the mornings. This news just posted via News Nation. The morning show over there is in third place. It's doing terribly. And it has been for some time. They were averaging like mid to late February, 2 million viewers in the overall and 357,000 in the 25 to 54 demo. All right. So call it 2 million and 350,000 in the overall and in the key advertising demo.

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Well, right before the flight, their numbers searched. People wanted to see what was going to happen, and they tuned in. And that morning, they had 3.9 million viewers and almost 600,000 in the demo. After the flight... Viewers fled. News Nation is reporting this. Following three days, the numbers cratered to an average of 1.9 million people, a 51% loss.

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I mean, honestly, we almost added the little hearts, the emojis coming out of Steve Croft in his head for that series of hard-hitting interviews. Not exactly Murderer's Row, is it? Like back in the Mike Wallace years. Who could forget this absurdity?

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The demo fell down to 339,000, a 43% loss, below where they had been even going into the event. Then Monday, April 21st, just a week after the flight, the demo fell even further. Now it's down to 311,000. The total number stayed at the terrible 1.9 million. an industry insider telling News Nation, this stunt should have never been greenlit by CBS News to begin with.

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Gayle tries to be this relatable morning show anchor who claims she's down to earth and then not only takes this gazillion dollar flight, but then attacks people for getting mad at her. It's a complete crock. And just in case people haven't seen this one, we didn't, this is one we did not play. We played a lot of thoughts from these women, but we've got Gayle

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She literally is calling herself an astronaut. She doesn't understand why we don't celebrate her, and she's probably really confused as to why her ratings are falling.

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This was under Bill Owens when Leslie Stahl interviewed Donald Trump in October 2020, just before his reelection battle against Joe Biden after the Hunter Biden laptop had come out.

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She went out, Gayle King, after she got blowback and among other things said to her critics, have you been? Have you been? That's my question. No, Gayle, no one's been because it costs a million dollars to get on Jeff Bezos' spaceship. And as some folks online, News Nation points out, responded, no, Gayle, I'm trying to buy eggs.

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Gail, if I had that money, I'd be paying off the mortgage on my house. Right. Like so out of touch. Miss Oprah's best friend on David Geffen's yacht, always at Oprah's side doing all the billionaire excursions. Have you been? And then as if that wasn't going to persuade people, she actually played the sexist card. We played this before, but it's it's it doesn't get old. Here it is.

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Hey, you better be inspired. And if you call it a ride, you're a sexist pig.

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No wonder the ratings are plummeting. It's actually very interesting to me that there's a real backlash. I mean, if you Google, just Google Blue Origin Space Ride, Every single thing that comes up is the backlash, how angry people are about this, how absurd they thought it was, what a vanity play it was. Obviously, it had exactly the opposite of the one Gail and the others thought it would.

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This also reported in that same report. Katy Perry struggling to sell tickets for her Lifetimes tour despite promoting it during the 11-minute space tourism journey by holding up the set list printed on a butterfly to the camera as they write instead of, you know, looking outside the window at Earth. It's like the reason it's so great is because people are onto it.

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You know, they they didn't get away with it, Glenn. They they've been called out at every turn to the point now that they're running from it. They don't even want to talk about it now.

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I mean, not only that, but there was another woman on board. I don't know who she is, but I watched some of the interview that they did when they got off of their spacecraft after their mission. And the question was like, what does this mean for you? And she's like, you know, this is for all survivors, right? I'm like, survivor?

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It turns out this woman alleged that she had been the victim of a rape many years earlier when she was at Harvard and has become like a sexual assault activist now. And she brought up with her some medical bracelet, I guess, from when she went to the hospital and made this claim. And she made the thing, I'm like, must everything truly, this is the left's idea of like what it means to be a woman.

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You are about the abuse that men have heaped upon you. You are about the sexist pigs who refer to your space mission as a ride. Or you are Lauren Sanchez where you are literally getting a suit that unzips so you can show off your tits. while you're on your way to space.

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And then Cherry on top, when they come back, lecturing us on how there was nothing frivolous about what they did up there with the Kardashians and Oprah on the sidelines watching Glenn. He's got everything that the left thinks it is to be a woman.

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They just couldn't get it. They could not get it through their heads. They are all Democrat leftists from the look of it. I mean, we know a few of them are. And so they just don't think that way. They think everyone's going to celebrate them bringing up their trauma or their breasts or their heroics or lectures on how we need to refer to their flight.

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Because if you don't call them sheroes, you're a sexist pig. This is leftist thought. You know, it's on display. And that's why it kind of gets to a bigger point of Can the left get past this? You know, the Democrat Party's wrestling with this right now.

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We only know that that exchange took place because Trump taped it himself, not trusting 60 to air his full grievance. And indeed, he was right and he released it. Same time frame, October 2020, 60 took us inside the Lincoln Project's campaign against President Trump.

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We over here are just looking at them, wondering what their next move is, because this sort of woke, very progressive cancer that they're dealing with is eating away their own party. And I've said from the beginning, I think they're stuck because they can't excise this thinking from their party. It's too deeply ingrained. It's been ingrained K through college. They're true believers in it now.

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If they cut off that arm, they're not going to have a whole party. They're not going to survive without it because it's just too infested.

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On Tuesday, the EP of six years, but only the third ever to hold that post in nearly six decades at 60, said he would be resigning from the Sunday news program, suggesting he felt the network was encroaching too much on his editorial calls. This could not be tolerated at the vaunted 60 Minutes, you see, which is entirely unbiased and uninfluenced by anything other than the facts. All right?

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Mm hmm. It happens no matter how rich, powerful, successful these women on the left are. And that is a tease for what we're going to discuss when we come back from this break. And that person is Michelle Obama, who is off. her rocker on her latest message. It's unbelievable. If you're a homeowner, listen up. When's the last time you checked on your home title?

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That's the legal proof that you own your house. And the answer is probably never. The problem is in today's AI and cyber world, scammers are stealing home titles and your equity is the target. Criminals forge your signature on one document, use a fake notary stamp, pay a small fee with your county, and boom, your home title has been transferred out of your name.

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And did they do a hard-hitting expose on the rabidly anti-Trump grifters who are loathed by virtually all Republicans and accomplish little more than successfully lining their own pockets? Let's see.

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That's 24-7 monitoring of your title, urgent alerts to any changes, and if fraud should happen, they will spend up to $1 million to fix it. Go to HomeTitleLock.com now. Use promo code Megan. That's HomeTitleLock.com, promo code M-E-G-Y-N.

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Glenn, Michelle Obama, still trying to make her struggling podcast a thing, went on a four and a half minute tear about herself and how hard it is to be Michelle Obama. We're going to go through quite a bit of it. Here's the first one about how difficult it is for black women like Michelle to articulate their pain.

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This is the perfect soundbite after the discussion we just had about how the left looks at everything through this identity. You could say prism. You could also say prison, where she's talking about how women aren't allowed to articulate their pain, about how they just suck it up. You know, they don't show that... as if men never do that, Glenn.

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Men are known, aren't they, for articulating their pain? That's what you think of when you think of man, traditionally.

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Oh, no, you're so wrong. Listen to this. Okay, I'll let you pick up your point in the back end of this, but listen to her talking about her eight years in the White House, Sat 27.

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Oh my God, the utter privilege and how out of touch this person is. She lived in a 55,000 square foot mansion on the taxpayer's dime with 18 acres of rose gardens and beautiful grounds all around her flying on Air Force One, Marine One,

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and being the first lady of the United States, lauded wherever she went with universally praising press coverage and covers of Vogue, like she was the greatest beauty who'd ever walked the face of the earth.

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Then left to write her bestselling memoir for which she was paid millions, then signed a Netflix deal for which she was paid millions, is giving speeches for which she's getting paid almost a million dollars per speech, has two daughters who went to Harvard and USC, and The two of them together, I haven't even counted her husband's riches. They're definitely billionaires by now.

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The house in Martha's Vineyard, which is, I think, $20 million out on the yachts of David. What happened to me? Why doesn't anyone think about what happened to me during my? I'm enraged. I'm almost speechless at how ridiculously out of touch this person is, Glenn.

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Right. No, it's like Meghan Markle bitching about how small her castle was. I mean, it's like, how out of touch can you be? And the thing about Michelle Obama is she's always negative. Everything she says has got a negative spin on it. She's negative about the country. She's negative about her time as first lady. She's very negative about her husband. I fully believe that they have a bad marriage.

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She did not marry the right person. It's not a good match. She almost never says anything nice about him. That too, she's now trying to defend as somehow, I don't know, this is like a racial attack when people say this. You tell me if you can figure it out. By the way, she's speaking here to her brother and actress Taraji B. Henson, SOT25.

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Oh my God, Glenn. Okay. So first of all, the fact that this woman with all of her riches and celebrity trappings, friends, successes, et cetera, is upset and still bitching about what quote, some female journalist said one time about her 18 years ago. Like there's something wrong with her. Like I guarantee you I've had far more negative press than Michelle Obama.

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I guarantee you I have because I have been hated by both the right and the left. And you let it go. You move on. Sometimes you even befriend the people who said the nasty things about you because life is life. It's short. And the less grievances you can hold on to, the better. That's not how she sees things. And she wants to turn it all into a thing about skin color.

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How painful is it, John Weaver, my little buccaneer? By the way, Google John Weaver Lincoln Project and see what other questions Leslie Stahl could have asked if 60 had actually done some investigative reporting about that group.

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about when people see her as yes, bitter and yes, often angry. But what I just said is kind of just depressed and dark about most subjects. Whenever she's talking, there's just, she's down. She's negative. She does not see the half full glass. It is quite the opposite.

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After the 2020 election, the biggest story in the nation was, of course, Mr. Trump's claims of voter fraud, especially in places like Pennsylvania, where Democrats made changes to voting laws late in the process, to voting procedures late in the process, not approved by the lawmakers, not approved by the state legislature. And those changes allowed ballots to arrive after election day to count.

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Every time she comments on him, it's negative. Every time. If it were just one, like, oh, I'm going to try to humanize him so people can relate to him, that actually wouldn't be a thing. But it's every time she is on camera, she has a negative word about her husband, who happens to be one of the most famous people in the world.

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I mean, I just, look, I'm not in the same situation as Michelle or Barack Obama, but I've never heard my husband say a negative word about me publicly. He almost never says a negative word about me to my face. I mean, like we have a genuinely loving relationship. He would never be out there and trying to make like humanize me.

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He might tell like a funny story, but he wouldn't continuously barrage people with genuinely negative things about me. Like that's, she doesn't like him. It's very clear. And then when you point that out, it's, you know, you're trying to paint me as an angry black woman. How did race get put into this? I see an unhappily married woman, but everything, everything is about race for her.

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It's always been, you know, back to the college days. And she got back to that topic in the same four minute rant. Watch this.

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They allowed less secure ballot drop boxes and more. Did 60 take an in-depth, fair and balanced look at that?

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Totally. That's why she named her memoir Beloved. I mean, honestly, it's it's her narcissism and any criticism about her for it results in you're just think I'm an angry black woman. That's your racism coming out. That's, I guess, what she thinks of her friends. Last but not least, she finally spoke to sort of the reason she did not go to Trump's inauguration.

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As COVID spiked again, vote-by-mail ballots flooded tabulation centers. Other ballots jammed street-side drop boxes or were hand-delivered to registrars and city clerks. What could have been chaos instead became an exercise in democracy.

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Again, we don't we don't ask a lot of our former first ladies. We really don't. We kind of forget about them. They can go off. They can make their millions, whatever. We don't bother them. Was it really such a big sacrifice to ask her to go show up at the inauguration? You know, do you think Jill Biden really wanted to be there or Laura Bush for that matter?

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You know, Hillary definitely wanted to be there for different reasons. But you do it because the country likes these ceremonies. I realize Trump did not go to the inauguration of Joe Biden. That's a separate issue. But she talks about it like... I did what was right for me. Something like I've never done before. And for once, I chose me, Glenn. The same theme runs throughout all of it.

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Yeah. Democracy in action. That's all it was, folks. That case went all the way up to the U.S. Supreme Court. I mean, and the Pennsylvania Supreme Court. And fine, it was not resolved in President Trump's favor. We know that. But it was just democracy. That's all. No more. Not really a valid legal battle. Joe Biden was, of course, sworn in as president, as you know, in 2020.

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I pack my own bag. Yeah, I don't have a team that packs my bags that I'd say, get me ready for whatever can pop up.

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I mean, it's kind of an interesting show because we're talking about these outsized personalities that in some cases love to victimize others and in some cases love to play the victim.

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Like the first half hour was about the people at 60 Minutes, like Scott Pelley and Sharon Alfonsi and Bill Owens, who are who love to criticize Republicans and victimize Republicans unfairly with their soundbites and so on. And then we move on to those who love to be the victim. Like that woman who came off the spacecraft and wanted to talk about being survivor.

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And then Gail, who's a victim because we're not seeing her as a shero. And then here's Michelle Obama, first lady, one of the richest, most celebrated women in the world. And that will lead me to the perfect way to cap out this hour of television. And that is with Meghan Markle. Now, there is a reason I'm bringing her up. Not just because she fits perfectly in the second half of our show.

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Which she does. She does. Because I might actually be having dinner with her tonight.

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No, I just thought it was a good tease. No, at the Time 100. So the Time 100, I'll be honest, I have real reservations about the whole thing. They say it's the 100 most influential people in the world. I think the fact that Meghan Markle is going to be there is proof enough to everyone that it's not true, okay? But it's never true.

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So they just pick people who are in the news who they think they can have an event with. And I so-called made the list back in 2014 after we launched The Kelly File. And I went. It was cool. And I saw a lot of interesting people. And back then, I was still kind of starry-eyed about just news and the fact that I had a primetime show.

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You know, it was exciting to rub some elbows and go to these Black Tie events. Mm-hmm. different story 11 years later. So yes, I made the list this year, but honestly, I didn't make anything. They put me on the list because they had to. I just feel like they didn't give me anything. They gave me nothing. No one in the left wing press has given me anything So I've really been wrestling.

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Do I go to this? It's not important to me, but I do kind of want to have a photo on the red carpet just as like a, I'm back you bitches on the left, you know, but that's not the right motivation to do something. So anyway, I'm going to go because I'm told that both Meghan Markle and Blake Lively will be there.

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And if I can get even a moment photograph, like from far away with her in the background, I'm going to break the Internet, Glenn. I'm going to break the Internet.

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And did 60 spend the next four years digging into the president's mental acuity with in-depth 60 Minutes pieces? Oh, they asked a question or two along the way, but no. Or his opening of the southern border, allowing more than 10 million illegals to flood the country, no. Or how about the COVID overreaches under that president? Absolutely not. It appears they had a different focus.

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Blake Lively was also there the first time I went. So maybe I'll bring that up when I see her. I'm sure she really is going to want to talk to me. Um, so Megan Markle sits down with the time magazine. Is it the CEO? It's a, it's a woman, uh, who does, yeah, the CEO who does an interview with her in advance of this event at which she's going to appear. And

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I want to give you a sample of some of the questions, and the audience will not be surprised one bit to hear how Ms. Markle refers to herself in her answers. Watch this.

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You're a founder. She gets this from Meghan Markle's bio. They ask you for your bio, and clearly she gave the bio, but listed herself as a founder, innovator, creator, founder. How are you?

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Entrepreneur. Sure. Thank you for asking about me. She did that when she was just married to Harry, remember, on that African tour, when she's in the midst of all sorts of poverty and struggle. And thank you for asking about me because no one really has. No one really has. So here she is again. Thank you for asking about me. That love language, that feeding of others is my self-care. Oh, my God.

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I think it'll be good fodder for the show, if nothing else. I feel you, Glenn. I feel you intensely. But it's not every guest who can both talk about the Meghan Markles of the world with ease and go deep on Abrego, Garcia, Mahmoud Khalil, Israel. That's what makes you so special. Tulsi, all of it. Love, love, love. That's why you're the Megyn Kelly Show godfather.

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All right. Coming up next, we have a legal expert. He's been on the show before, but I love this guy's a follow on Twitter. And he's been second to none when it comes to covering all the legal battles that Trump has found himself immersed in that they're throwing at him. For some clear thought, we'll be joined by one of Mike Davis's guys. Will Chamberlain next. Are you a yo-yo dieter?

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Let me get you started with 20% off when you enter MK20 at takelean.com. That's MK20 at takelean.com. I'm Megyn Kelly, host of The Megyn Kelly Show on Sirius XM. It's your home for open, honest, and provocative conversations with the most interesting and important political, legal, and cultural figures today.

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You can catch The Megyn Kelly Show on Triumph, a Sirius XM channel featuring lots of hosts you may know and probably love, great people like Dr. Laura, I'm back. Nancy Grace, Dave Ramsey, and yours truly, Megyn Kelly. You can stream The Megyn Kelly Show on SiriusXM at home or anywhere you are. No car required. I do it all the time. I love the SiriusXM app.

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It has been the most intense legal news cycle with Lawfare 2.0 doing everything they can to thwart the president's agenda. You know, we had the resistance during Trump 1.0, and now we have the lawfare in Trump 2.0.

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Nowhere has that been more pronounced than with Trump's election promise of mass deportations, with left-wing lawyers trying to block Trump's use of the Alien Enemies Act to remove Trenda Aragua gang members and demanding the return of deported alleged MS-13 gang member, Kilmar Abrego-Garcia.

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Here to help break this down in understandable language is one of the strongest voices on this issue and a great follow on X. It's Will Chamberlain. He's senior counsel at the Article 3 Project, which our viewers know because they know and love Mike Davis. Will, great to see you again.

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Okay, so let's just start with the Abrego Garcia case. This is the guy who was found by two courts to be MS-13, and they said you're deported, but they said, all right, we'll suspend your removal because we've been convinced you shouldn't be shipped back to El Salvador because there's this gang there that you say wants to kill you.

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That could have been lifted immediately once that gang had been eliminated by the El Salvadoran president. We didn't really do anything about it. Instead, we just turned him out back in society. He's been roaming for six years. And then Tom Holman found him. And now he's become the poster boy for the left because we weren't technically supposed to send him to El Salvador. We did.

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But he has absolutely no right to stay in the United States. Something strange is happening. Something strange is happening in the case where the last two days, the Trump administration has been filing things under seal so that we can't see what they are. They filed their status report about him. They're supposed to be telling everybody how he is under seal.

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And, uh, then they filed a different emotion to stay discovery in the case, stop like proceedings under seal. And that was just granted the judge in this case, Paula Zinnis and Obama appointee agreed to stay discovery in this case until April 30th. So she's put the whole thing on pause.

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Now, Margo Cleveland, who also does a great job covering this for the Federalist, she had speculation, her guests. Was that possibly Trump's working with the El Salvador government to arrange for his release? Not permanently, but possibly to come back here, step foot on U.S.

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soil and then immediately be deported to someplace other than El Salvador, which would completely erase the Dems argument on him. But what do you make of this weirdness around him?

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All right, so the latest news on his case is not great for Trump, and maybe this is playing a role here in what's happening behind the scenes, maybe it's not, but there was an Economist YouGov poll released yesterday that showed 50% of Americans say Trump should bring Arbrego Garcia back to the US. Only 28% say he should not. 27 percent of Americans say Abrego Garcia is a member of the MS-13 gang.

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Only 30 percent or 30 percent, I should say, believe he is not a member of the gang. 43 percent not sure. This is obviously a result of the very biased media coverage on this issue where everybody's been telling them that he's just a Maryland dad. But it's not a case that Trump wants to lose either the legal or the PR war on. So what do you think he should do with this guy at this point?

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And that can be done if he needs to participate at all. It can be done via Zoom. He doesn't have to be on U.S. soil.

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Wow. So the shop is no longer there and the gang that was targeting the business is no longer there. And the only thing that's really no longer there is Abrego Garcia and he needs to be there. He's in El Salvador, but not not yet free as far as we know. You've been calling attention because a lot of people have been casting doubt now on these two immigration courts findings that he is MS-13.

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It came up in the context of, should we give him bond while we're trying to decide what to do with him? And two judges said, no, we should not. This guy's MS-13. People aren't buying it because they're not following people like you on X and following actual reporting. One of the reasons they say he's probably not, his defenders and even the district court judge in this case said, well...

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He they said this this informant said he was a member of the, quote, Western's clique within MS-13. And that group only operates on Long Island in New York. And he's in Maryland. So, aha, the confidential informant was wrong and he can't be MS-13.

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Right. You point out that there's at least a November 1st, 2011 RICO indictment that's racketeering. It's like gang. They used it to go after the mob and sometimes gangs by the government against members of MS-13, not this guy. But in that, they argued specifically that MS-13 affiliates uh, affiliates operate within the Washington DC metro area, including the Western clique.

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You may not know that, but it's true. Just ask them. Mr. Owens and others argue that the show has had total independence from network brass for the show's 57 years on the air, and that suddenly that was changing. Under Don Hewitt, the original EP, they said, hey... We had independence and it worked out pretty well. He was there for almost 60 years. It's crazy the number of years he was there.

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obviously fearing that Ron DeSantis might become the eventual Republican nominee. In April 2021, 60 aired a disgustingly misleading report by Sharon Alfonsi, suggesting DeSantis was guilty of a pay for play campaign contribution scheme by which he offered the COVID vaccination shots at Publix supermarkets as some sort of payback to a grocery store chain that had donated to his campaign.

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So it's in, I didn't realize it's clique instead of click. In any event, it's in writing right there from the federal government, long predating Donald Trump. This is 2011. That would have been Barack Obama's, um, DOJ saying that. So The other thing is they say, well, you can't use the fact that he was wearing a hoodie, a Chicago Bulls hoodie and cap against him.

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But we've taken a look at the immigration judge who initially denied the bond to him. And the truth is, well, she placed almost no importance on that. And she wrote that she was placing almost no importance on that. But the truth is also it is very relevant. That is how they dress.

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That is a very good question. She went on Good Morning America last week when this whole thing was like coming to a point and her attempted rehabilitation of him after it broke that she had accused him of being a wife beater was pathetic. I mean, it was absolutely half hearted.

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And I hadn't even considered until you just said it that it was out of fear of what some of the other MS-13 gang members might do. We're going to pull it over and I'll play it in one second as soon as we have it. Before we get to that, though, you pointed out another great Twitter follow, which is a guy who goes by Shipwrecked Crew on Substack.

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And this guy had some very interesting posts about ICE and how it operates. And this was news, too. He was calling to our attention that... The determination by ICE and Maryland police, for that matter, that Abrego Garcia was a member of MS-13 was not made lightly.

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And he points out because these determinations are absolutely critical in preventing violence inside either a jail or a detention center that while you and I are going about our lives wondering whether it's clique or clique, the people who have to arrest these people and then put them in detention centers or jails actually must figure out whether they're gang members and which gang.

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Sixty showed a bit of that brief exchange between Alfonsi and Governor DeSantis in which he offered what looked like a rather lame response to her tough questions and just happened to leave on the editing room floor the bulk of his extremely substantive answer to every point she raised in which he utterly dismantled her accusations.

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That's right. Not worthy of trusting whatsoever. And then another point, and I saw this too in Annie McCarthy's article over at National Review, that Abrego Garcia's defenders are making is that, I don't want to screw it up, is that there's been no evidence since 2019 and that immigration judge and then the appellate court above her that he's a member of MS-13.

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Like maybe he's no longer a member of MS-13. Maybe he's like a reformed member of MS-13.

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But this guy, Bill Shipley, is pointing out that his own complaint reveals that after he was arrested in March by ICE, quote, he was shown several photos where he appeared in public and asked about other people in those photos, but was unable to provide any information on them as he did not know them or anything about them.

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Now that that his defenders say is proof he didn't know these gang members like he doesn't know. He has no idea. And shipwreck crew and you see it differently.

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They yeah, he's pointing out here that every ICE office would have prioritized their targets based on their own files. The Prince George's County, Maryland law enforcement that they have an MS-13 gang unit. And obviously they have an MS-13 gang problem. And so it's, you know, all these things sort of come together. And then there was the wife and that exchange on GMA. Here it is.

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So, uh, the other thing is the smuggling, the alleged human smuggling or trafficking, because this came out, um, I think it was Tennessee star that first broke it, but he was pulled over in a two, in 2022 in a car. And, um, the, the evidence that just the news just came out with this report, which is interesting.

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They say, uh, he was stopped by police in an SUV owned by a man who was himself deported after pleading guilty to smuggling illegal aliens in 2020. Well, that's not great. That's, That's his bud, some guy who pleaded guilty already to smuggling illegal aliens into the country in 2020, citing Homeland Security intel.

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Even some Florida Democrats, after they saw the piece, lashed out, saying they had told 60 Minutes the public story was, quote, bullshit, but that the producers did not seem to care. It wasn't just political hits on candidates either. Take a look at the show's coverage of, say, climate change. This one's from January 2023.

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And on top of that, they go on to say that the El Salvadoran driving the car was driving a black 2001 Chevy Suburban, said he was transporting his passengers to Maryland from Texas for construction work, although the state trooper found no luggage in the SUV. These are bad facts for Mr. Obrego Garcia. He's not the driver, but he's in the car. Why? Why? What's the story with this guy?

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Then they say the owner of the vehicles had been identified as Jose Ramon Hernandez Reyes. Obrego Garcia told the state trooper that the owner was his boss. They say, let's see, Baltimore field office, they said, but believe this belonged to a target they suspected of human trafficking or smuggling. And it's all of this is circumstantial evidence, but it's powerful.

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And these people who don't believe he's an MS-13 have heard none of it. I mean, I think it's clear this Abrego Garcia is MS-13. That's certainly my conclusion based on these facts. It doesn't matter though, right? Like that, the bottom line that people need to remember is we do not in any way need to show that in order to keep him out of this country.

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Yeah, you can be a perfectly nice person. You actually can be really sweet and we can still kick your ass out of here if you're here illegally. That's just the way it is. It becomes relevant because Trump is using, for example, the Alien Enemies Act to get rid of some of these people.

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And under the Alien Enemies Act, he's declared an incursion by the Venezuelan Trenda Aragua members saying, you know, we're under a special kind of threat. And he's saying that gang members are terrorists, too, which allows him a more expedited removal pursuant to his proclamation. So it gives him additional layers of authority to eject this guy. But he doesn't need them.

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Those are all belts and suspenders and ways of getting him out faster, we hoped, and just more expeditiously. But they've gummed it up, the ACLU, at every turn. So... We think that probably we're going to be able to keep Abrego Garcia out.

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It's just a question of whether we're going to give him some sort of a zoom hearing or something, but do you think he'll ever step foot on us soil with our consent anyway, again?

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OK, now, what is your thought on how Trump is getting away with shipping all these people to El Salvador and imprisoning them indefinitely? Because my understanding is Bukele said they're going to stay in that jail for a year and then we'll see.

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So this is where, you know, even I have some problems because we can't just ship people off, you know, out of the country, put them in jail and throw away the key forever. That's we don't have that right. We do have the right to deport them and we have the right to hold them for some period of time until we've determined that they're deportable.

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And there was news earlier this week of some sort of a prisoner swap between El Salvador and Venezuela. I can't remember exactly what the details of it were, but it certainly suggested that that could be the end game here. I don't know how, maybe Venezuela will take them back if... I don't know, they want to get rid of their own El Salvadorans back to Bukele.

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I have no idea what the Venezuelans get out of taking back Trenda, Aragua gang members, but better that it's their problem than ours is the bottom line. That thing about the MS-13 gang members is very interesting though. I didn't realize that, but it makes sense because what Bukele's done with that prison and the reason he's made El Salvador so safe

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is because he's locked up all the gang members in El Salvador, of which we believe Abrego Garcia is one. So if Bukele is convinced, and by the way he is, that this guy is MS-13, he is going into that prison.

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Let's switch to Alien Enemies Act, which is the declaration that Trump made that we're suffering an incursion or an invasion. And this does swoop up trend to Aragua members. And it's allowed him to deport a bunch of them. And he's he wants to deport a whole lot more. by saying, I'm going to use this extraordinary act that will very much limit the due process I have to afford any of these people.

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And that's a plus because you don't want to give everybody lengthy due process or this will take forever. And he's only on the criminals so far. When he gets to the, you know, you're illegal, but you didn't break another law, it's going to get even more controversial, these deportations. The Supreme Court stopped on Friday night his use of that act to deport anybody.

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And Mike Davis with you at Article 3 was tweeting out yesterday, hello, co-president John Roberts, when are we going to be able to continue the important international policy work and military work of getting rid of these threats to the United States? Let us know when we can resume. And so far, the Supreme Court hasn't said anything. We don't know when a decision is coming.

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Or frankly, at this point, Will, I don't even know if the decision is coming from the lower court, the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals, or from the U.S. Supreme Court. Talk about what you think is happening here.

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Yeah, I know. It's just such a strange thing for the US Supreme Court to act that quickly. The ACLU says it had to happen because they were loading these guys up on buses and they were told that they were going to El Salvador.

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And when we got that ruling from the Supreme Court or when we filed our motion, they turned those buses around, which they think is proof that Trump was again about to deport a bunch of people, even though he knew that there were motions trying to stop it.

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Do you think that Trump will ultimately be upheld on his use of the Alien Enemies Act? Because the high court hasn't yet adjudicated that. It will eventually.

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Right. I think you're right. I've been saying they've been arguing with a lot of people over this. I just don't think how can the Supreme Court have the final say on what a predatory incursion is and whether whether this is one. I just by what standard will they judge that? I just don't I don't see it. That's the commander in chief's call.

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And I think, I believe Chief Justice John Roberts is gonna know that. I think they'll limit their review to whether these people have had adequate due process before they're adjudicated terrorists or gang members under the Trump executive order that invokes the act. And I think you and I are probably on the same page that that due process is going to be very limited.

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It's even I mean, it's just there's no way it's going to be much more than you get a hearing. You get a notice that you're going to be deported and you get a hearing at which they decide whether you are deportable.

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Amazing. No mention of the number of nearly identical warnings just like this that had rained down upon the populace for years, decades prior to this report with not a scintilla of accuracy. None of the climate change doomsday predictions has come true. Somehow they forgot that in the piece. Or how about this one?

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Yes. This just in, Trump has just asked the US Supreme Court to allow him to enforce the transgender military ban. That was another executive order where he said, no more trans people in the military. There's too many reasons not to allow them. I mean, you're not supposed to be in if you have anxiety.

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So it's like, if you've got the number of issues that come with being trans, it makes perfect sense. But He's been stopped by a lower court judge who said, no, I don't think you're going to succeed in defending that executive order. I think it's going to be thrown out as a violative of the U.S. Constitution's Fifth Amendment right to equal protection under the law.

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And therefore, I'm I'm banning you from enforcing it while this case continues. plays out. It was a Seattle based judge. And now they are asking the U S Supreme court team Trump to lift that ban on so that they can fire these trans people from the military and then let the case play out on the merits. How do you like his chances in getting that ban lifted?

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Oh, well, so good to talk to you. I love your clear eyed analysis on all these like very murky issues. Really appreciate it. Please come back.

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All right, see you soon. All right, before we go, I wanted to tell you that our first MK Media show, The Nerve with Maureen Callahan, launched this week. In the premiere episode, it's so good. Maureen, she tells a very funny story right off the top about what happened after she left this show for that Meghan Markle parody episode we did. You've got to, you'll laugh.

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But in her premiere episode, she dives into the topic of mean girls and why they only get meaner as they get older. And she exposes a... terrible story about actor Jon Hamm. My God, I didn't know anything about this, but she took a deep dive into allegations from his past, which I think you'll find interesting.

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Here is Maureen, just a clip on how she says Jon Hamm was able to avoid scrutiny for this alleged hazing incident from years ago by getting involved with the Hollywood in crowd. Watch.

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More recently on free speech in Germany, where people are literally being arrested for saying things deemed, quote, offensive online. A concept most normal Americans would detest. Not back to Sharon Alfonsi. Not Sharon Alfonsi, though. She appears to love the idea.

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She's doing a great job already. And she didn't seem nervous at all. You got to watch or listen to the show to get Maureen's full reporting and analysis of the story. Jon Hamm even responded to it after being pressed on it by the Daily Mail. Go ahead and subscribe and follow Maureen at thenerveshow.com, The Nerve, on all YouTube podcast platforms and social accounts. Episode two is out tomorrow.

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We are back tomorrow with another MK Media host. Mark Halperin joins us for the full show. We'll see you then. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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It's so fun to laugh about. If you watch the whole piece, it gets even worse. We played for you yesterday Scott Pelley's attempted takedown of Moms for Liberty when they appeared on the show, who he said had no basis for their totally empty assertions that LGBTQ books and other inappropriate material is intentionally being put in K-5 libraries.

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So wrong were Moms for Liberty that all nine justices of the U.S. Supreme Court just spent a day immersed in titles promoting LGBTQ material in K through five classrooms. The very thing Scott Pelley says is not happening. And the only question was not whether, in fact, it does occur and is occurring, but why schools are refusing to allow parents to opt out.

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Looking forward to your follow up, Scott Pelley, and your apology. So this, this is what Bill Owens' independence has gotten us. Oh, never before has anyone overseen me. The absolute worst, most biased, hardest, leftist version of 60 Minutes that we have ever been subjected to.

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Under Jeff Fager, he was there for the next 14, less so. And under Mr. Owens, 60 Minutes has all but lost its mind, shilling for progressives. And I, for one, am thrilled to see him go. Not that I think this broadcast with its current staff is salvageable. I'm just in favor of dismantling this current version of the show, which would appropriately fit in any hour of MSNBC primetime.

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And yet to hear him and his supporters tell it, Sherry Redstone finally looking at the program and saying, you need to reel it in, people. What she actually did was just appoint a producer to enforce the company's quote journalistic standards. This was the breach. This was the straw that broke the back of 60 Minutes at its core.

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In a leaked goodbye memo to staff, Owens writes, quote, over the past months, it has become clear that I would not be allowed to run the show as I have always run it to make independent decisions based on what was right for 60 minutes, right for the audience. So having defended this show and what we stand for from every angle over time with everything I could.

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I am stepping aside so the show can move forward. And lest you think I am being overly dramatic, he indeed was reported to have said this and spoken to the newsroom in tears. A gut punch, said a veteran 60 Minutes producer to the New York Times, which broke the story. Profoundly disturbing. Wrong.

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And then this, as reported by Jake Tapper on CNN, who spoke with some 60 Minutes producers reeling from the news.

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He's like a Medal of Honor winner. He's jumping on the grenade, sacrificing himself to save the totally independent and unbiased 60 from the evil Trump and his influence over Sherry Redstone. Perhaps, friends at 60, the problem lies not with your corporate owner or your president, but with you. Maybe, just maybe, you've lost your way.

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Perhaps you've gone so far leftward in your programming that it's actually caused the corporate brass to finally notice. Yes, it's happening in the context of a lawsuit and a merger. But you've gone so far leftward, it's actually endangered the sale of your parent company. Might this not be a time to reflect, revamp, recover some of that old magic that made the broadcast famous to begin with?

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He also may impose a tiered system, 35 percent levies on goods not considered a threat to national security. and at least 100% for goods that do pose that threat. The Journal noting the president has yet to make a final decision. On Tuesday, President Trump signaling openness to working nicely with the Chinese, making clear neither the previous setup nor the current status quo will stand.

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President Trump making news on his tariff policy toward China.

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President Trump reportedly looking to speak with Chinese President Xi Jinping directly, an idea the Chinese are resisting without an agreed-upon framework. On Wednesday, President Xi telling reporters, quote, tariff wards and trade wars harm the legitimate rights and interests of all countries. A spokesperson for the Chinese foreign ministry later doubling down, telling reporters the U.S.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Thursday, April 24th, 2025. And this is your AM update.

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must, quote, stop its threats and coercion and engage with China on the basis of equality, mutual respect, and reciprocity. Treasury Secretary Scott Besson speaking on Wednesday at the International Finance Forum, arguing China has more to lose and gain from a deal rebalancing their export-heavy economy.

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On Wednesday, markets reacting positively, the Dow Jones rising by 419 points, the S&P gaining 88 points, and the Nasdaq rising by 407 points. Coming up, could President Trump be about to increase taxes on the wealthy? And border czar Tom Homan slams activist groups for intervening in the Trump administration's mass deportation effort.

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Reporters are Tom Homan unleashing on activist groups trying to prevent President Trump from deporting criminal illegal aliens. And President Trump considering increasing taxes on the wealthy in his so-called big, beautiful tax bill. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update.

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Tax day may have passed, but for millions of Americans, the real trouble is just the beginning. If you miss the April 15th deadline or still owe back taxes, the IRS is ramping up enforcement, and every day you wait might make things worse. With over 5,000 new tax liens filed daily and tools like property seizures, bank levies, and wage garnishments, you don't want to mess around.

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In a possible break from traditional Republican orthodoxy, President Trump reportedly considering raising taxes on the wealthy, which means small business owners and job creators. Fox News Digital reporting White House aides are quietly floating a proposal to House Republicans that would raise the tax rate to 40% for Americans making more than $1 million.

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The current highest bracket set at 37% for those making $609,000 or more. The proposal comes as lawmakers work with the White House on an ambitious so-called big, beautiful tax bill aiming to slash federal spending and make the 2017 Trump tax cuts permanent while adding in additional cuts like no taxes on tips, on overtime, or on Social Security.

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Pennsylvania Republican Dan Muser telling Fox a new tax bracket could generate significant revenue.

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Trump advisor and senior counselor in the first Trump administration, Steve Bannon, telling The Megyn Kelly Show on Tuesday it's an easy political win against Democrats.

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President Trump will do it. Not all Republicans on board, however, some GOP lawmakers expressing stern opposition.

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As President Trump is settling into his new administration, one of the top Democrats in Congress aiming to undermine the Trump agenda is Democrat Senator Dick Durbin of Illinois. And according to our sponsor, the Electronic Payments Coalition, Senator Durbin has a new plan, a government takeover of your credit card.

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Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich on Tuesday posting a screenshot of a note on X he says is from President Trump. It reads in part, quote, George Bush said, read my lips, no new taxes, then proceeded to give a rather small tax increase and was obliterated. If you can do without it, you're probably better off trying to do so.

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The speaker did not specify when that note was written, though the message echoes President Trump's consistent warnings on the campaign trail. If Democrats win, taxes will go up. Republican lawmakers aiming to release the tax package in May.

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Borders are Tom Homan Wednesday on Fox slamming activist groups for launching what he calls a coordinated legal campaign to obstruct the Trump administration's mass deportation efforts.

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The Trump administration is confronting a growing series of legal roadblocks from federal courts across the country, challenges critics say undermine the executive branch's constitutional authority to enforce immigration law. Late Friday night, the U.S.

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Supreme Court issued an order temporarily stopping the president from deporting anyone under the Alien Enemies Act, at least until the courts can decide the underlying case in which detainees are challenging the use of that act against them. Shortly thereafter, courts in Colorado and New York halted the administration's use of the act in cases before them.

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In New York, a Clinton-appointed judge blocked the deportation of eight Venezuelans. In Colorado, a Biden-appointed judge blocking deportations under the act and adding that all affected detainees must receive 21 days' notice before any removal and must be informed of their right to challenge their deportation.

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The latest rulings come amid the ongoing legal battle over Kilmar Abrego Garcia, an El Salvadoran national with confirmed ties to MS-13, currently in custody in his home country.

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Despite a documented history of domestic abuse, two immigration judges affirming his gang affiliation, and a valid deportation order, Democratic lawmakers making Garcia a central figure in their fight against the Trump administration, framing the case as a due process issue with implications for all Americans.

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Today, Americans have thousands of choices in credit cards, but they say Senator Durbin's plan will result in less competition and less security, which means more risk for your credit and your identity. You can learn more for yourself at guardyourcard.org, and you could consider telling your senators to stop Dick Durbin's government takeover of your credit card before it's too late.

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Maryland Senator Chris Van Hollen making that argument Sunday on ABC following his visit to Mr. Abrego Garcia in El Salvador.

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On Sunday, four progressive lawmakers, Congressman Robert Garcia of California, Maxwell Frost of Florida, Yasemin Ansari of Arizona, and Maxine Dexter of Oregon, arriving in El Salvador on an unofficial visit to advocate for Mr. Abrego Garcia. House Oversight Chair James Comer denying the use of taxpayer funds, preventing the visit from being recognized as an official congressional delegation.

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The Salvadoran government citing the unofficial status of the trip, blocking the lawmakers from meeting with Garcia. Still, the group vowed that Democratic pressure on the Trump administration will continue.

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Republican congressman from Pennsylvania, Guy Rischenthaler, on Tuesday telling Fox Democrats are doing Republicans a favor.

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Elon Musk telling Tesla investors on Tuesday he plans to scale back on his role in the Department of Government Efficiency to focus more on the car company.

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The announcement comes in the wake of a poor Q1 earnings report, profits falling by 71% compared to the same time last year, the stock price down 50% overall from its December peak. The electric car company targeted by left-wing activists in a nationwide Tesla takedown campaign designed to punish Mr. Musk for working with the Trump administration.

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More than 50 incidents reported against Tesla vehicles and facilities since January, ranging from vandalism to arson. Authorities arresting at least nine suspects in connection with the violence so far. Mr. Musk standing by his government work, telling investors the U.S. is facing an existential crisis.

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The announcement reassuring investors, Tesla stock rising about 5% on Wednesday following Musk's remarks. Despite Musk stepping back, Doge's work in the Trump administration will continue. And that'll do it for your AM Update. I'm Megyn Kelly.

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Join me back here for The Megyn Kelly Show, live on SiriusXM Triumph Channel 111 at noon east, on youtube.com slash Megyn Kelly, and on all podcast platforms.

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The Trump administration offering to de-escalate its tariff war with China, weighing a dramatic restructuring of our tariffs on Chinese imports. According to the Wall Street Journal, President Trump is considering lowering tariffs on Chinese goods to 50 or 65 percent. Currently, they're at 145 percent.

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I mean, is there anybody who's got worse Trump derangement syndrome? I mean, he's got ties, Rick Wilson, Lincoln Project, you know, Jennifer Rubin, but like I don't know if he's got somebody worse, like masquerading as a straight news reporter in the mainstream media. Olbermann, obviously he's terrible, but he's not masquerading as objective.

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So he's doing all these mass firings, which is wonderful, too. Everybody's hard to file civil servants, but he's paying putting while on paid leave. Get out. Get out. We pulled that Davos that you guys just mentioned. Here's some of that Trump zooming in.

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I mean, it's like he's not quite as plain spoken as Javier Malay of Argentina, who got up there and really went for it. It's in Spanish, so he didn't cut it. But man, he's always worth clicking on. If you see a clip from that guy, he does not hold back. All right.

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Let me get back to this political argument article, because it's just we have to spend some time on Politico admitting all of this stuff. He goes on to say, OK, his opponents. cannot push Trump to the margins. His opponents have no choice but to acknowledge he and his movement represent a large historical argument and then rally similarly large arguments to defeat it. He says the following. Okay.

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Trump has already demonstrated some familiar signatures of the most consequential presidents like influential predecessors. His arguments have shifted the terms of the debate in ways that echo within both parties, in this case on issues such as trade, China and the role of big corporations.

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Plus, we've got to spend a minute on the Oscar nominations. They didn't get the memo. about the massive shift in our cultural landscape and about how we are done. We are done with the gender madness crusade. So we'll go over how they are sending their countercultural message to us with the fellas from Ruthless who are here today for the full show.

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Like other large presidents, Trump has been a communications innovator and exploited technological shifts more effectively than his rivals. In that sense, his use of social media recalls FDR's mastery of radio, JFK's and Ronald Reagan's mastery of television. One more signature shown by the most consequential presidents, uncommon psychological toughness.

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Have you ever known someone who is facing legal hurdles? In many cases, even if people ultimately win the case, they end up being consumed and shrunken by the searing nature of the experience. So true, by the way. Imagine running for president amid huge civil suits, criminal prosecutions, and even felony convictions, and then emerging from this morass as a larger figure than before.

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No one needs to admire the achievement to recognize that Trump is possessed by some rare traits of denial, combativeness, and resilience. And here we go down to the end where he's now quoting a historian. a liberal historian. Quote, great presidents are unifiers mostly in retrospect.

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Most great presidents, he later wrote, this liberal scholar, divided the nation before reuniting it on a new level of national understanding. And back to the political commentary. This is the same sentiment uttered by FDR, quoting FDR. All our great presidents were leaders of thought and at a time when certain ideas in the life of our nation had to be clarified.

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God, that totally encapsulates Trump, his rise, his movement, his popularity, his gut instincts, and why they resonated so strongly, especially on the heels of four years of Biden-Harris with this huge piece of the American electorate.

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Josh Holmes, Michael Duncan, John Ashbrook, and the man known to his minions as Comfortably Smug. You can find all their work at RuthlessPodcast.com. As President Trump begins his new administration, one of the top Democrats in Congress is aiming to undermine the Trump agenda. And his name is Senator Dick Durbin of Illinois.

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The the folks are not getting it. I mean, CNN and Politico admits this, right? Like he's a great leader. He's a great president. We're going to have to deal with that. CNN, reportedly the boss there, who is the former a former New York Times guy, reportedly said to the staffers at some all hands on deck meeting. please try not to prejudge Trump.

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Like let's just not do knee jerk trashing of Donald Trump. He would like his job to continue, which requires viewers, which is why he said that. Then Tom Bevin of Real Clear Politics tweets out the following with the headline, CNN has not learned a thing. This is their homepage. I'll just read you a couple of the headlines.

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Trump sends shockwaves through the government and around the world in a flurry of activity happening almost too swiftly to follow. Trump is giving critics every reason to think their worst fears will be realized. OK, then there's fact check. Trump litters Oval Office interview with false claims. The gloves are off. Trump appears poised to cash in from his presidency in new ways. Okay, let's see.

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Going over here, moving over. Hegseth's ex-wife gives new statement to FBI amid scrutiny over his nomination. Musk bashes Trump's AI project, undermining a $500 billion investment. Kara Swisher has a theory on why Musk seemed to undermine Trump. No, Trump did not become an overnight crypto billionaire. The latest on the Trump presidency, and then whatever.

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So I don't feel like CNN has gotten the message. I'm going to take a quick pause, and we'll come back and get you guys to react to that, because there's more news out of CNN as Jim Acosta, sad single-tier Jim Acosta, has lost his spot in the lineup. And now, according to reports... maybe quitting. More of the Ruthless right after this.

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So, guys, Jim Acosta reportedly losing his key spot in the CNN lineup. I actually have no idea where his spot is, to be perfectly honest. But they are trying to move him to midnight, which they reportedly sold to him by saying it's primetime on the West Coast. And now there are reports that he's getting ready to quit because he is too big to take this kind of demotion.

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And the reason he is too big is because of moments like this, where he showed true grit and integrity at CNN when Republican lawmakers from Tennessee had the nerve to come on his show. And exchanges like this that happened last night took place.

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How great is he? Okay, so Congressman Burchett of Tennessee. This is CNN. This is the news. You can't just pull the wool over people's eyes, sir.

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This is, of course, on the heels of the Clarissa Ward report where they... You know, they used some guy who was apparently connected with the with Bashar al-Assad and pretended that he was in some prison. That's how it looks for months. And he came out, you know, clean fingernails, clean clothing and did this whole like, oh, oh.

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only to have it revealed that he was connected with the very people he claimed were imprisoning him and then wouldn't respond to CNN's calls when it came out that he had given a false name. And we have no idea what CNN sold us. They haven't done a mea culpa. But this is CNN. This is the truth. You can't just pull the wool over somebody's eyes here, sir.

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Some woman gave this to him and he kept it and he talked about it on the air the other day. I march for Jim Acosta and the free press. He kept it and he showed it. This is from the women's march, I think, in 2016, 2017. Look at him. He showed it on the air so that we could all celebrate him.

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That's probably where you need to, I have more to do on the press when we get to what they're doing to Pete Hegseth in a minute, but I want to start more with what Trump is doing today. Cause it's just such good stuff and we got to get to it. So the, um, executive orders and the crackdown on the border is really where we're going to start. I'm just going to read you a couple. All right. Um,

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First, the Lake and Riley Act passed. It passed the House, and then it went to the Senate. They made some modifications and went back to the House last night, and it passed. And it passed with a lot of Democratic support. Of course, there were some 46 or something Democratic lawmakers who wouldn't sign it, so the Democrats are still crazy. There's some portion that's still crazy.

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But they passed the Lake and Riley Act, which really says, like, you must detain an illegal person who commits shoplifting or something you consider a lesser crime, never mind the more serious crimes, you may not just return them out into into.

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into society, requires ICE to arrest illegals who commit an offense of theft, burglary, larceny, shoplifting, or of course, something more serious, and mandates that these aliens are detained until they're removed from the United States so they cannot re-offend.

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Then on top of that, because keep in mind what happened with Lake and Riley was this criminal in New York City committed a couple of crimes here, including I think shoplifting was one of them, and then got released by New York City, which is a sanctuary city in a sanctuary state. And then he went down to Georgia and killed Lakin Riley. And if we had just done our job in New York state,

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well, I'm in Connecticut now, but I'm from New York, this guy would have been behind bars or deported, as he should be now under Trump. So they're trying to crack down on this. And then there's a second piece of the Lake and Riley Act that reads as follows.

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It enables state attorneys general to file lawsuits against the Homeland Security Secretary if the government fails to enforce immigration laws. This is for the next administration. This is Trump saying, I won't be president forever. And I am empowering Greg Abbott and Ron DeSantis and all border state governors to sue the derelict federal government if the next guy refuses to enforce the laws.

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Do you agree with my feeling of like you open up X in the morning and you're like, ah, come on. It's wonderful.

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And you've got overwhelming Democrat support for this for this policy of deporting, never mind of punishing the criminals who are here and making sure they don't hurt more Americans, but of deporting all illegals, all of them. But before I get to Harry Anton over on CNN talking about that, let me show you AOC's reaction to the Lake and Riley Act.

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Okay. She's very worried about the due process rights of illegals accused of murder.

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Right. Well, unfortunately, Smug, the Constitution does apply to people who are in the country, whether they're legal or they're illegal. But the point is what Josh just says, which is if you're here and you get arrested, and I don't care what you get arrested for, we find out you're an illegal, you're out. I don't really give a shit.

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It's not about your due process laws on the crime you've been arrested for. It's about your underlying crime of sneaking into the country unlawfully. Get out. That's what we're worried about. It's not like whether you're going to get all your bill of rights once you actually get to trial. It's you're illegal and you got caught.

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And right now we're bending over backwards to accommodate you so that you don't have to leave so that you can let your legal rights play out here. Get out. We already established you're an illegal. Go. You're Venezuela's problem now. But here's more.

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And we never find them. If they don't show up, we don't we don't look. All right. Here's here's another one. Um, on top of that, which is an actual law, those are the ones we like the best, right? They can't be undone by executive order by the next president. Uh, DOJ released a memo directing federal prosecutors. Now I'm getting into the more executive actions.

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DOJ released a memo directing federal prosecutors to investigate and potentially prosecute state and local officials who do not cooperate with immigration orders. So once again, This is a crackdown on sanctuary cities that you could get prosecuted if you are a state or local official who's not complying with an ICE detainer.

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You know, there's an ICE detainer on some bad hombre who gets arrested for shoplifting, let's say, in New York City. And he's sitting behind a bar and there's a detainer, which means New York officials are supposed to call ICE and say, hey, we've got this guy you're looking for. And they don't.

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Instead, they defy that and they let the guy free and he goes down to Georgia and murders a 22-year-old nursing student. So this is saying you local officials who do that, you're going to get your asses prosecuted. It's not just about the act which mandates it with Lake and Riley. We're going to come after you criminally.

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All right, let me give you a couple more on the border. The Pentagon announced it will begin deploying as many as 1,500 active duty troops to help secure the southern border in the coming days. They will join the roughly 2,500 U.S. National Guard and Reserve Forces already there. That makes 4,000 troops along the southern border.

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Reports out today it could go as high as 10,000 to make sure that they're not sending the military down there in a law enforcement capacity. You're not allowed to use the military like that. They're not going to be shooting illegals. They're just standing there. and they're happy to put the illegals in the truck and drive them back across the border. That they can do. They can't arrest them.

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That's the job of CPB. But this is an amazing show of force, which is having incredible effects already. I'll were canceled for so-called refugees who were slated to travel to the United States. Up here in the Northeast, we've been getting a ton of these flights in Westchester in the middle of the night, canceled, go back home.

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Biden's been bringing them in by the plane load to various communities throughout the United States. Trump canceled all the flights, at least 10,000 so far. Bye, sorry, you're somebody else's problem. Texas reinstalled massive floating, the massive floating buoy barrier along the Rio Grande.

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It's like the vigor is back in the White House. Not only did Joe Biden do the shuffle and the falling upstairs, downstairs, across the beach, but like then so sores and J.D. Vance and Trump is like it's just vigor. Vigor has returned. I don't know how Trump does it. He's 78 years old, but you can tell this is like. He truly could run all of us under the table with his energy level.

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Remember, there was that huge barrier down there, and Biden went down there and sued him to take it down because they said it was dangerous for the illegals who were trying to swim across the Rio Grande. He lost in court.

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Ultimately, the Fifth Circuit ruled for Greg Abbott, but they hadn't yet reinstalled it, and now it's going to be fully reinstalled, and Abbott plans to extend the barrier further. Further, in Florida, there is new Coast Guard protection.

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In response to Trump's executive orders, the Coast Guard is announcing it will immediately surge boats, cutters, aircraft, specialized forces to the southern border around Florida to prevent mass illegal migration from Haiti and Cuba. This is just so beautiful. Number six, the Department of Homeland Security, in a memo, permits ICE to raid so-called sensitive areas.

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Trump's DHS issued this memo immediately rescinding Biden's 2021 through Mayorkas policy, which limited ICE from enforcing our immigration laws if if they found an illegal near a, quote, sensitive area like a school, a church or a health care facility. And Team Trump is saying this. go for it. Go ahead and do it. Those are the most important areas to secure from dangerous illegals.

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Why would we give them a free pass so they intentionally go live near a school or a church or one of these healthcare facilities? So that's been revoked. And this is just a little bit of color because there's so much here I'm drinking from the fire hose. But

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Just a just a look into the effect this is happening, having as ICE goes to arrest a Haitian criminal illegal migrant and Fox's Bill Malusian was there. And this guy found his English for a second. Take a listen.

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Yeah, and there won't be. There won't be. And by the way, it's sad because Trump's going to do his level best to get as many of these folks out as he can. And I know the administration is very happy and I'm thrilled to see that some 300 to 500 now illegals have already been captured by Homan. But we have maybe 20 million. I mean, it's just not it's not doable.

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It's that they're going to remain here. If we can get out a million or two, it will be miraculous. But we are not going to get the vast majority of those illegals who Biden Harris allowed to enter this country out.

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I truly don't understand it. He's superhuman in this way. This is not fangirl, sycophant, cult member talk. It's an objective fact. There's something very odd about how this man is able to withstand enormous amounts of pressure and enormous amounts of time commitments and energy zaps without falling apart.

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Listen to this guys. Um, border patrol. Now these are the numbers. I think this is from Fox's Allie Bradley reporting this. Okay. The data was obtained through a DHS source. Um, Okay. On January 17th through 19th, right before Trump was inaugurated, the encounters between migrants and Border Patrol were at 4,000.

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Then OFO, which is a different—that's basically the people running the CPB1 app appointments— it was about 5,000. So about 9,000 encounters with, you know, attempted migrants entering the country a day from one 17 to one 19 Trump gets sworn in on one 20 and one 21. So this is this past Monday and Tuesday, it fell to 1900, call it 12, 2000 and nine 30, call it 1000. So that's down to 3,000, right?

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So we go from basically 9,000 to 3,000 overnight and then 122 as of approximately 8 p.m., which was Wednesday. It's down to 440 with Border Patrol and 45 with the UFO, down to 500. We went from 9,000 encounters with migrants at the border on 117 through 119 to 500 yesterday.

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We have more. I want to show you what Trump said about this on Hannity last night, and then I'll get to that Harry Enten report showing what the American people want. In fact, I'll just play that now. Play Sot 4, and then we'll go to break.

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That's the truth. And the media is going to have to accept that fact because it's the people's will. And that will is going to be done. You guys, ruthless day with us. They'll be right back. And so will I. Are you overwhelmed with back taxes or unfiled returns?

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It was 46 Dems who voted yes. So that's where I got the 40s number from. Anyway, so you got 46 Democrats who were sensible and are listening to their constituents, and you had 156 House Dems saying they're not on board with the Lake and Riley Act, which doesn't really help them with the populace, as you heard in that Harry Enten report.

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All the polls, all of them across all networks, across all pollsters are showing in the mid 50s to 60 range with Democrats who are in favor of throwing all illegals out, all, not just the criminals.

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It has that feeling like, yet another thing I really wanted that's going to improve my life and the life of my fellow countrymen has happened. And not just one thing, but a whole swath of things. The goodness just keeps on coming in droves. It's totally delightful. And for once, covering the news is... Uplifting. I always think covering the news is pretty fun. I mean, almost always.

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You've got AOC, like with the Saab story, like, no, you're going to deprive them of their due process rights, these poor illegals who are committed, who are accused of committing crime. And just look like 180 on the other side. So that's, she's over here, 180 on the other side. Here's Trump talking to Hannity last night in Saat 6. I think it's six.

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Like you said, it's just sense. It's back to the political argument. He has a way of communicating with regular people that they all get on an instinctive level. There's no combating that. No AOC high soaring rhetoric is able to combat that. Yeah.

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Exactly. And when that tattoo is on your face, times 10. Yeah. Very aggressive. No secret there. Yeah. That was actually another line in the political article that the FDR said, I'd ask one thing, but to be judged by the enemies that I have made, judge me by my enemies. And I think Trump feels the same. He's thrilled to have AOC out there saying things like that about him. Okay.

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So moving on, there's a lot, there's a lot of other stuff we got to cover, including what they're doing to Pete Hegseth. So Pete Hegseth is, I think, still on his way to being confirmed. We've been watching McConnell, Murkowski, Collins and Ernst for Republican senators who should vote for him, but have reportedly been on the fence. Those first three have not said how they're going to vote.

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Ernst has said she will vote to support Pete and she did vote him out of committee. So we're still question marking those three. But we don't really care because if that's the only three he loses, then it's a tie in the Senate, which J.D. Vance would cast the deciding vote on and Pete would get in. But as the Senate slow rolls the final vote, the Democrats are saying we need more information.

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We need more time on Pete. You get an 11th hour submission now from. want to make sure I have it right. Pete has a brother. He has a couple of brothers. This is the lesser known brother and the brothers, not the brother's wife, but the brother's ex-wife who is a far left Democrat. I've talked to people who know her, um, who never liked Pete.

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comes forward to say he was some sort of an abuser of Pete's second wife, who's not her sister. They both married into the family. So this woman was married to the one brother of Pete, and Samantha Hegseth was Pete's second wife. And this woman says he's an abuser, and I know that because my some eight years married to the brother mostly overlaps Pete's marriage to Samantha.

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And Samantha had—it was to the point where Samantha had a code word— where she would text it to me if she thought she was in trouble, like inside the house. And in fact, she did text me the code word one time. And so Pete, and that signifies that she was afraid of Pete. Well, okay. Like, Let's hear the rest of the story. What happened next? Did you call the police?

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Did the police visit Pete's house? Did they arrest Pete? Was there a domestic violence complaint officially made? And most importantly, what does Samantha Hegseth say? Because we don't know you, weird ex-sister-in-law who's a far-left progressive Democrat trying to stop Pete. But... The ex-wife, Samantha, certainly does know Pete. So what does she say? She denies it. She denied it to the FBI.

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Now, she said he never physically abused me, which left me as a lawyer saying, is she leaving the door open to emotional abuse? Now, that comes with all sorts of question marks because... You know, a couple divorcing, they're going to fight. They're going to have a lot of arguments. He cheated on her. I'm sure they had some very volatile arguments when that was revealed.

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He impregnated Jen, who became his third wife. And, you know, he wound up with. So I'm sure there were some very brutal rhetorical fights, but that's not necessarily abuse. And so I don't know what the truth is there. So then I went digging further and saw the divorce papers and the order issued by the judge in the divorce proceeding, which makes really clear what actually happened there.

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And that judge said, said nobody is alleging abuse and there's been absolutely nothing that tells me that there was abuse of any kind. He says there's no probable cause whatsoever to conclude that there was abuse in this marriage one way or the other. I'm trying to find the exact language. I can't find it in front of me right now. So what do we get?

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What's on your mind? No, it's amazing. It's like, I wonder... as a member of the media, whether they're starting to feel like, you know what? This could be a lot of fun. Maybe I don't have to hate this fake Hitler. Maybe I could really enjoy covering this guy for the entertaining person he is, who clearly loves the country and has an agenda that now has wide swaths of report.

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We get the media running with the headlines, Pete's accused of abuse. Pete's an abuser. He's accused of abuse. And in some publications, they don't even print that the actual ex-wife says that's not true. And in places like the New York Times, they stick that in the 18th paragraph of their story. I mean, because they want to do the damage to him without actually getting into it.

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Okay, here, hold on. Without actually telling the truth. Here's the New York Times. The main article on Tuesday, the headline was Hegseth ex-sister-in-law tells senators he was abusive to second wife. The sub headline, a woman once married to the brother of Pete Hegseth, the defense secretary nominee, submitted a sworn statement to the Senate in a late hour complication to his confirmation.

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His lawyer denied her account. His lawyer? His lawyer denied it. How about mentioning that the alleged abuse victim denied it in your sub headline, New York Times? And then you've got the CBS Evening News in a report from Nicole Killian, who's got exactly the right last name because that's what she's been trying to do to Pete Hegseth.

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made no mention, no mention of Samantha Hegseth's disavowals of the allegations in this ex-sister-in-law's affidavit. So CBS News didn't even want to tell its audience that the ex-wife, the alleged abuse victim, has denied it on the record. And by the way, back to what the Minnesota Family Court judge said in the divorce proceeding, he said...

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Neither Pete nor Samantha Hegseth claimed to be a victim of domestic abuse. He said he was making no determination whatsoever that there was probable cause to believe that one parent has been physically abused or... threatened with physical abuse by the other parent.

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Now, I think the alleged hiding in the closet, using the safe word, texting the sister-in-law that you feel unsafe would qualify as feeling that you'd been threatened with physical abuse. But this judge found that did not happen. And when asked recently by the FBI whether she was abused, Samantha Hegseth said no, no physical abuse. So This is where we are, guys.

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I mean, you tell me whether this is, you know, the Hail Mary pass by Jack Reed and others.

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I was just looking at the RealClearPolitics average for Trump right now. His approval rating currently is at 53. 53, you guys. This is three, four days into all these executive orders crushing DEI, crushing the gender madness, crushing the green energy excesses. He's at 53.

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Exactly right. So they're but they're, you know, they're obsessed. And these reporters, like I mentioned, this woman, Nicole Killian at CBS, who has been so unfair to him from the get go with the alleged rape allegation, which now just gets short formed by all of these media outlets to accused by rape and signed a settlement. Accused of rape, denied. They mentioned he denied it.

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They don't talk about any of the holes in this woman's case. The fact that the police chose not to pursue it after doing a full investigation. The fact that she claimed she was given a date rape drug, but was seen on camera and by three independent witnesses and her husband on the back end within a period of two and a half hours, totally fine, sober and not drugged.

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That's not how the date rape drug works, people. None of that gets mentioned. It's just, think about it. As a man, you get accused by this woman in what appears to be an obvious lie, an obvious made up claim of rape. And then every publication, as you get the nomination of your lifetime, just short forms it to accused of rape and paid a settlement. Accused of rape. He was accused of rape.

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Disgusting. It's so unfair. So anyway, this Nicole Killian has been doing this to him from the beginning. I'll just give you an example of this woman's reporting who decided to omit the fact that Samantha Hegseth has denied it from her CBS News report. Here's an example of her on the rape allegation.

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There's a little bit more color on this. The NBC News reporter who was behind this original report on the sister-in-law is named Julie Serkin. And there are two others, Sarah Fitzpatrick and Courtney Cube.

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And, um, this circuit once called journalism frightening because of Trump, the greatest challenges was realizing that I was entering the business at a frightening time in almost every single speech I logged from Donald Trump's presidential campaign. There was a jab at the free press. which makes it frightening for her to join the media.

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Then she went on to say how challenging it was for her to balance emotional involvement and objective journalism. Well, I'm not sure she's doing such a great job of that over at NBC News, where she files this report on Pete and what's obviously an attempted political hit. And so impressed was NBC Nightly News with her reporting that they did not even include it in their nightly news broadcast.

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CBS runs with it, but omits the sister-in-law's denial. NBC looks at that turd of a report and said, we've got bigger things to cover.

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Yeah. No problem. So many other things you can do. Like I always say to people who don't like the long hours or the weird hours of news, there's KeyBank. It's right down the road. Nobody bothers you. You work nine to four. It's nice and easy. I'm sure it's got its own set of challenges, but overall, it's far easier than working at news. You don't have to do this. That's it. Fine.

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go do something else. It's no problem. All right. So the important thing is we think that Pete is going to be confirmed. I have a prediction. It is now Thursday. They're saying possibly Friday night or the wee hours of Saturday morning that, that because Thune is basically saying, we're not leaving, get your cots. We're going to have a vote on Pete and these others.

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He's the Senate majority leader now. And, um, I have a prediction that Jack Reed slash Tim Cain, et cetera, they're not done. They're going to try to pull yet another rabbit out of their hat on Pete because they're really desperate to stop him. I think they smell blood in the water on that one. And they really just want to get one. And I think he's their favorite to get right now. But good luck.

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They're not doing any better with the OMB nominee, you guys. This may be my favorite story of the day. I don't know if you saw this, but, you know, OMB stands for Office of Management and Budget. And Trump's nominee, a guy named Russell Vogt, V-O-U-G-H-T, he goes over there to submit himself to questioning.

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And Democratic senator from the state of Washington, Patty Murray, gets this number crunching, you know, accountant type guy who's going to be managing the budget. That's a big responsibility. She's got him in her crosshairs. And where does she go with this extraordinary opportunity to cross-examine him? She goes here.

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Project 2025. It's amazing to me. Okay, so he's got views that are controversial on abortion. He's going to be the number cruncher. He's the guy with the little green visor who's going to be doing addition and subtraction. He is not going to be running federal abortion policy, which is not really a thing.

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Wait, stand by on that because stand by because Senator Whitehouse, he weighed in on this, too, and cross-examining vote. Watch.

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I mean, I'm told by a reliable source mug that you've got breaking news on 2025. What's the story?

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Yeah. Excellent. It's amazing, the obsession. They have obviously no points to score against this guy. He already was OMB director under Trump one. And they just decide to use it as a showcase for one of their favorite ponies. Like, oh, yeah, let's talk about abortion. Here's an extremist. Let's make the American population hate him. That's fun. Let's bring up all of our old favorites.

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Project 2025 and abortion with no exceptions. Good times, right? Like that's all they have at this point. I want to talk about this. On the subject of people we no longer trust or should trust, Trump is yanking the security clearances of various officials. And it's frankly kind of delicious, including those 51 so-called national security officials or intelligence experts who

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who signed the letter suggesting that the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation, which was a coordinated effort between those guys and the Biden campaign to save Joe Biden's ass from that laptop. And so Trump has pulled their security clearances, including people like John Brennan, James Clapper, Leon Panetta. And he also pulled the security clearance of John Bolton.

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And I think also pulled John Bolton's Secret Service protection, which I did not even realize he was getting while he was traveling. Molly Hemingway pointed this out from media outlet to media outlet to bash Trump and make sure he wasn't reelected. The Secret Service was following him. Why were they protecting John Bolton instead of Trump adequately at the Pittsburgh rally?

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That's a question I'd love an answer to. So what do you make of the pulling of the security clearances of these folks? Because CBS's Margaret Brennan, she's very concerned. Here's what she tweeted. President Trump revoked the security clearance of a long list of former intelligence officials. This makes it hard for his own team to seek informed counsel from them.

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I'm like running over to my kitchen table in the morning to see what's in the New York Times, what's in the Washington Post, or what's in the Wall Street Journal, what's in the New York Post. I can't wait to see. And just getting on X and seeing, and we'll go through for the audience what Trump did yesterday and all the greatest executive orders that are still coming and what he's doing.

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Yeah, this guy, General Michael Hayden, he's one of them. And twice, at least twice, he openly compared Trump to Hitler. Why would Trump allow this guy ongoing access to anything, anything? Never mind our national security secrets. This is obviously a dishonest broker. So good for him. More controversial is news today that he's pulling Secret Service protection for Mike Pompeo.

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But let's just start with that political piece because my jaw dropped smug. I'm like... What is this? From Politico? I thought it might be a spectator piece when I first saw the language grab from it. No, Politico's John F. Harris with a post this morning. He is the founding editor and global editor-in-chief of Politico. This is not some low-ranking occasional columnist.

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And I wonder your thoughts on that. I mean, I, you know, I have nothing against Mike Pompeo. I understand he's controversial within some MAGA circles, but I don't want him to get hurt. And I realize he was in an important position and actually, you know, could be exposed. I think he may have money to protect himself. I don't know. I'm not sure whether that factored in or not.

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But I do think in general, we have too many ex-government officials who have Secret Service protection, given the fact that we have a Secret Service that is obviously undermanned and feeling slightly overwhelmed.

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I sat two people down from him at that Pittsburgh rally that I spoke at for Trump the night before the election. So he showed up there. He was in the good graces of the president. But I mean, and I would think as the former CIA director under Trump, the former secretary of state under Trump, he Maybe he does have some security threats. I mean, you can see that.

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But I know that there's a very strong strain within the top MAGA echelons that really pushed against using him again in this administration because they think he's too much of a war hawk. They think he's just a little too neoconny, which is fine. They got their way.

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But I don't totally get other than if they've had a falling out, in which case that would be petty by Trump or in if Trump is basically just trying to rein in the costs of this enormous service that I mean, John Bolton, like how many people have it? How many family members have it? Like how long will Hunter Biden have it? You know, it's just, this is an American taxpayer expense.

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And I just wonder, given how undermanned they are, whether we should be realistic about our abilities to pay these fees.

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Before we get to the Oscars, got to spend a minute on the Obamas because there seems to be some momentum picking up in the rumor mill about their marriage. All right. I'm going to bring you what I know. First, on January 15th, in the sub stack of Jessica Reed Krause, also known as House and Habit, she's well connected in some circles and worked for RFKJ for a time. Right. Didn't she?

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He kind of is Politico, founding editor, global editor-in-chief. And this is what he says. The headline is time to admit it. Trump is a great president. He's still trying to be a good one. Then he goes on to say as follows. All right. The second occasion of Trump taking the oath of office put him in an entirely new light.

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She was close to RFKJ. Right. close to, she posts the following. And she's been right about a lot, this gal. Michelle Obama's absence at Jimmy Carter's funeral certainly raised some eyebrows, but yesterday's announcement that she won't be attending Trump's inauguration confirms something is definitely going on between her and Barack.

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She said whispers about cracks in their relationship have been circulating in D.C. for over a year now, but this feels like the first public proof of a marriage on the rocks. The question now is an if but when. If I had to guess, they will wait until after the inauguration to announce it. Timing, you know, is everything. And yet the story doesn't end there.

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For months, I've heard Jennifer Aniston's name tied to Barack. At first, it seemed ridiculous, but the rumors have remained steady among New York and L.A. circles. I should reiterate to the audience that Aniston has denied it, saying, I don't even know him. I've seen Michelle more than I've ever seen him. Then Jessica cites a DM she received the day before. Quote, He's with Jennifer Aniston.

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My old manager, now a friend, is connected to her inner circle. At a gathering with Jennifer's friends, the affair came up casually. Jennifer herself admitted it. They were sitting with a psychic, which makes it sound surreal, but it's definitely not a secret among her closest friends. Then yesterday, Meghan McCain had a discussion about this on her show, suggesting she is hearing the same.

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Um, she had on Tara Palmieri, who's a reporter saying fast and furious loud. I've been hearing this rumor about the Obama's getting a divorce from reputable people. I'm not talking about TMZ. She says, I'm talking about very serious journalists telling me they are hearing that the Obama divorce rumors are true.

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And Tara, who's a senior political correspondent for Puck says, I've certainly heard it for a while too. Even before Michelle said she wasn't coming to the inauguration. I do not know whether this is true at all, but if it is true, it truly would be a political earthquake in Democrat circles. Never mind America. I don't remember a presidential divorce in modern history.

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Jennifer Aniston, it was her circle of friends there allegedly discussing it. I mean, we don't know. We don't know. But I know it's true. Is it so hard to believe?

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Some of you are married. Did you see the post he put out to celebrate her birthday? Was it her birthday or their anniversary?

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For the first time, he is holding power under circumstances in which reasonable people cannot deny a basic fact. He is the greatest American figure of his era. Let's quickly exhale. Great in this context is not about a subjective debate over whether he is a singularly righteous leader or a singularly menacing one. It is now simply an objective description about the dimensions of his record.

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the least attractive photo of her that's ever been released. I mean, this is just wrong. Michelle Obama can look very nice in a photograph. This ain't it. She's got the kerchief on her head. They're about 20 feet apart in this intimate dinner. And he looks great. This is classic, right? He's like, this is a great picture. He's got the thousand-watt smile. And she's terrible.

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Just to be clear, you are suggesting that maybe there is something going on between Barack and Jennifer and the Bidens are leaking it.

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Here he is alone at the Trump inauguration, which really was, it was stark. All these former presidents came in with their wives and then there he was.

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And I talked about this with Maureen Callahan, but the fact that Michelle did not go to the Carter funeral, it really is kind of shocking because she said, her team said she had an appointment. She had a scheduling conflict. Like what could possibly be a conflict that would keep you away as a Democrat from President Carter's funeral? and then the inauguration.

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But it's not always like uplifting, but it's totally uplifting right now. Let's ride it. We deserve it. A new day in America, everyone, as President Trump takes swift action during week one back in the White House. And to coincide with all this good news, CNN is... basically imploding. I mean, its implosion is becoming more official by the day.

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It's like, I don't, and somebody was, was it Maureen? Maybe she's having plastic surgery, right? But she, but then he posts that picture of the two of them. Well, she wasn't having plastic surgery. So what the hell's going on?

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I mean, there's not to add insult to injury, but there's a Daily Mail report out today saying Kamala Harris's marriage may be on the rocks. Like everybody's everybody's on the rocks again. It's I will say I love the Daily Mail, but the sourcing appeared weak. It was like people who know the couple.

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He began a decade ago by dominating the Republican Party. He soon advanced to dominating every discussion of American politics broadly. Now his astonishing comeback after his defeat by Biden in 2020 and the notoriety of the January 6th riot makes clear there are certain things he is not and one big thing he is. There's more which we'll get to, but let's just stop there.

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But like, I don't know if they're saying she's blaming him in part for her loss because he turned out to be such a hot mess liability. You buy it.

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I'm all for marrying people named Doug, but she blew it somehow. I don't know. Okay, let's move on to the Oscars. And I'll tell the SiriusXM audience, I don't know if we're going to be able to get to the end of this before we say goodbye to you, but... I'll keep you guys over for just a couple of minutes. If you give me a couple extra at the end, we'll get it all in a podcast.

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And I'm into the Oscar situation. So as you saw, as you know, from Javier Millay with his firebrand speech at Davos to Trump and his firebrand speech at Davos to Trump's winning Trump's executive order, the polls overwhelmingly showing that the American people feel we have, quote, gone too far to accommodate the transgender stuff.

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there's been a clear message sent, not just by Republicans, but by Democrats as well. Holly Weird hasn't received said message because the Oscar nominations came out today, you guys, and I know you're big theater critics, so I saved this for you. Among the people nominated for Best Actress in a Leading Role is a man, A man, I tell you.

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He used to be known up until he was like in his late 40s as Carlos Gascon. And now he goes by Carla Sofia Gascon. He is 52 years old and transitioned in 2016, so-called transitioned. And for this, he was rewarded with the lead role in this movie, Emilia Perez, which has been, I think, also nominated for Best Picture.

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And it's about a drug lord who's a Mexican cartel boss who's a male who really wants to transition as a Mexican cartel drug boss and does so from male to female. And of course, this is like tailor made for awards in Hollywood at the Golden Globes. Amelia Perez won for Best Picture, Musical or Comedy. I guess it's got music in it, too. He called for trans people to stand up to bigotry.

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And now he has been nominated. He has taken one of the five coveted spots for Best Actress. Best Actress. So my basic take is all these Hollywood women deserve this, and I don't feel sorry for them. But what do you think?

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What was the name of the movie? Emilia Perez. That's the train movie.

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Well done, Smug. Well done. Wait, just in case you didn't see it, you know, I'll give you a little preview. Zoe Saldana's in it, among others. This, as I said, is apparently a musical. And we pulled a little from the movie, a little scene of, well, you watch.

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How is a movie, right? Double check me team. I think it's nominated for best picture with Vaginoplasty, yes. Mevoplasty, yes. Rhinoplasty, yes. How is that nominated for Best Picture? This person, Carla Sofia Gascon, at the Golden Globes in January, spoke after this movie won Best Picture in a musical, whatever, there. And here is what he said.

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What does it mean to you guys to see this kind of a piece in Politico?

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Okay. No one's putting transgender people in jail for being transgender. That's not a thing.

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Right? He's on the stage accepting an award for best picture. Nobody feels sorry for you. It's ridiculous. And now, honestly, I get that. Oh, here are the other actresses, okay, nominated in the best actress category. Fernanda Torres from I'm Still Here. Demi Moore for The Substance, which I'm told is absolutely terrible. Cynthia, is it Erivo? Yeah, she's from Wicked.

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She's the co-star in Wicked across from... What's her name? Yeah. Yeah, Ariana Grande. And Mickey Madison for the movie Onora. So he's... I don't know if he's the favorite, but you tell me. I feel like these women are probably really... pro his presence in the Oscars and his presence in the movies.

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And not one of them will speak a word about the fact that an already very limited field, it's hard to get one of these nominations, is now even more limited because there is a man who was a man and presenting as a man all the way up to 2016 who's probably going to win.

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Like remember when Peter Boghossian and his pals came up with those fake papers, like, is my dog a racist? And all these colleges published them and then they revealed it was a hoax.

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It's not just that movie and this guy. Now I'm kind of rooting for him. I hope he wins. I really do. I hope he wins the whole thing. I'm going to try to vote. I am, I think... I don't know if I'm a member of the Academy. You know, I'm an actress now. I'm in SAG, thanks to my appearance in Mr. Burcham. Yeah, I was a cartoon star. You may have missed it. It's possible.

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Anyway, that's not the only controversial thing going on in the Oscars. Here is a clip of one of the best actor nominees. See if this looks familiar to you.

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My God. Both of those guys nominated the guy who plays Trump, Sebastian Stan, as best actor. Jeremy Strong of Succession fame nominated for best supporting actor in a movie nobody saw and nobody liked. But they mocked Donald Trump. So you're in.

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It's just like, you're right. You've never even heard of these actors and you've never even heard of these movies. And they're just like smaller and smaller and smaller, as is the audience. Guys, thank you. Thank you all for being here. Great to see you.

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All right. And before we go, I want to tell the audience the route this guy's had to run. But one more thing on the Oscars. Of course, Conclave got nominated. Of course, of course, they nominated Conclave for Best Picture, the one that mocks the Catholics. Spoiler alert, okay? I hope you don't see Conclave.

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So, and I think you probably already know the spoiler if you listen to this show, but it's about the Pope and choosing a new Pope and the Conclave that the Catholic cardinals have. And big reveal at the end, they choose a Pope who's secretly a woman, right? who's so-called intersex. And here's a little bit of that.

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All right, so Ray Fiennes, he's nominated for Best Actor. This film, of course, will be celebrated because they mock the Catholic Church. Ha ha, joke's on you, you have a female priest.

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And don't take my word for it, because if you watch the thing, it's all about Stanley Tucci as a bishop who appears to be from New York or a cardinal saying like, I will not abandon my position that we need more women's rights in the church.

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You know, he's one of these leftist Catholics who's trying to take a stand, and they lionize him, and they make a mockery out of the Italian cardinal who's more conservative and who's more traditional, and they make him into a fool, a buffoon. And that's what they do to the entire Catholic Church by making surprise their new pope into... a woman. It's just ridiculous.

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So you can see exactly what they're doing. This is their night to stand up and celebrate how much they hate Catholics, how much they believe men can become women, and how much they hate Donald Trump. Whether they say it explicitly or not, perhaps there will be a directive not to make the speeches political.

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Much like the Golden Globes, the underlying content that will be rewarded that night tells everybody who is right of center, they can't stand you. Maybe keep that in mind when you're deciding whether or not to watch it. Thank you guys for watching. We are back tomorrow with Piers Morgan and more. See you then. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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Or the place in Scotland. No, I know. I mean, it's very becoming very clear that the great comeback tour is far more beneficial to Trump and the country than anything. A straight eight would have been for him because he was able to flush old staff that was not working well for him and bring in new blood and come in with, as Don Jr.

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I mean, I'm sorry to see people get laid off and it's happening by the hundreds over there today. But I'm not sorry to see potentially chief Trump antagonist Jim Acosta lose his job. I'm not sorry. He deserves it. He had promise as like a tough but fair reporter back in the day, and he completely sold his soul to be TDS example number one.

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said in this show, when he was predicting what would happen if his dad won. Yes, people who are loyal. It's important to Trump, but also people who are competent. And he said the first time around, we kind of just went for competence. And we forgot about the loyalty piece. And that's how you got deep state actors whose mission did not align with Trump's, you know, Rex Tillerson being one of them.

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You know, obviously there were others like Mattis, Millie, John Kelly. They had their own agenda and their own thoughts on how it ought to be handled. And nobody elected them to do anything. You know, they elected Trump. So now he's got it. And everybody it's like I'm reading today about how we're sending all these troops to the southern border.

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And it's going to require a fair amount of cooperation between the military, ultimately Hegseth, and DHS, ultimately Kristi Noem. Those two will work together. because they are totally on board with enacting Trump's agenda. There won't be turf wars. There won't be, you know, getting your backup because somebody wants more than you're willing to give.

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Everyone will be there in service of the mission, which is Trump's mission, which is our mission, the people who put him in office.

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It's a great point because also, clearly the person who wrote, well, it's a bunch of people, but the people who wrote these executive orders foresaw the legal challenges that were coming and wrote the appropriate defensive language right into the EOs. I heard the guys at Commentary talking about this. I noticed it too. In the DEI order, you know, like no more DEI. We're done.

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If you're taking federal dollars, whether you're a university or you're a subcontractor of the government, if you're pursuing a DEI agenda, you're out. We're not you're not getting our money anymore. And they had an exception on the universities for pointing out that to criticize the policy is totally fair game. Go for it. Like we're not trying to curb free speech.

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on a college campus about the government, its policies, its anti-wokeness. You can do that all you want, but you push DEI agendas. That's a different story. We don't have to give our money to you. It's been done very, very cleverly, again, by people who learned from just not only those first four years, but then watching what the Democrats would do when they had power.

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In today's AM bonus episode, the ramifications of Trump's executive order defending women from gender ideology, extremism and restoring biological truth to the federal government are being celebrated all over the country and certainly right here at the MK show. Female prisoners also have reason to celebrate. Men cannot be housed in female prisons any longer.

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So who was defending the lawsuit, the Bureau of Prisons, the Federal Bureau of Prisons?

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And so was it the feds, was it the DOJ representing the Federal Bureau of Prisons?

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And even at the federal level, if we don't get a Supreme Court ruling or a ruling from a higher court, it could just get reversed under the next president unless Trump changes the law, which hopefully he will. He's got four years. I mean, this was an immediate way to address the issue. And, you know, I think there actually is public support now to stop this.

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If you look at the latest polls, they're overwhelmingly on the side of reason, even amongst Democrats. So I actually think there is the opportunity for legislation here. But I don't know. The Democrats tend to be very cowardly on these issues. So what we'd really like to see is a law passed by Congress and signed by Trump that puts this executive order into permanent place.

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And thank God, because one journalist recently detailed a shocking story of one female inmate's journey and trial over being housed with men. And it completely underscores how just and needed Trump's order was and how disgusting Obama, Biden and Harris were. in insisting that this be allowed to happen. Maddie Kearns is associate editor now at The Free Press, and she joins me now.

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But short of that, a court ruling, especially from the Supreme Court, would be ideal. So the lawfare that's happening does matter. So what happens now? So she lost, by the way, what do we know the background of the judge who didn't think it was a big deal and thought she could just protect herself with a shower curtain?

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You know, what's interesting is now it's Pam Bondi's potentially DOJ. You know, I don't think she's not going to have any trouble getting confirmed. And it's Trump's government. So the DOJ has the prerogative not to pursue, you know, appeals in certain cases or fight back on the Bureau of Prisons in certain cases.

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So I would imagine if Rhonda filed this lawsuit under President Trump, you might not even get a DOJ objecting to it. She might just win. She could get potentially even a declaratory judgment that she had the right not to live with men behind closed bars. But where it will be trickier is where the trans person sues to say, I have the right to go in.

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Then Pam Bondi will go into court and say, no, you don't. We have a new federal policy. So there will be court decisions coming out, probably in droves now. By the way, this guy was an Obama appointee. But we're going to start to see a bunch of court decisions now.

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And I think this is probably generally the beginning of a big case going up to the Supreme Court, which is what the trans community doesn't want, not with 6-3 conservative to lip.

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It's a nightmare. So do you know how Ronda's feeling in the wake of Trump's EO?

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It's amazing when you think about it, you know, you think about all the, all the attacks on Trump when it comes to women, you know, I mean, that's, I made my debate question to him about the things he had said about women at that point as a celebrity.

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But of course, then all hell was unleashed against him with the, after the access Hollywood tape and all these women coming forward to say this, that the other thing about Trump, EG and Carol, whatever that was. And who has Obama has Biden?

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Have they even arguably done more for women than Trump who passed the anti-sex trafficking law, who on his first day in office signs the sweeping executive order to protect female prisoners? Not exactly the most popular group. in America, not to mention girls in sport, not to mention women in their private spaces, you know, throughout university systems.

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So like he just a sweeping protection of women and women's rights for which he will get no credit at all, Maddie.

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Yes, you could see. We talked about how it was Mae Mailman of the Independent Women's Forum who drafted that with the help of a lot of others. And, you know, even before Mae got to it, it's just there's so many women and others, you know, I'm thinking about like Billboard Chris, who have spent large portions of their past 10 years fighting. fighting against this insanity.

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And even, you know, I think about Kelly J. Keene, who's got, you know, all the merch like woman, adult, human, female, which is exactly the definition used by Trump's EO. Like everyone just had a hand in it. You know, you can see I can see the fingerprints of so many women fighters in this EO, which is going to change women's lives for the better.

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Eventually, I have no doubt we'll get to the children. He didn't start with that, which is you know, the procedures for the children. But the polls are showing that the American populace, including Democrats, are against puberty blockers for children, too. So we're winning. We're winning on all of this.

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And if we can win with prisoners who, again, with all due respect to Ronda, are not the most popular crowd. And as you say, it's a smaller crowd and it's not the most popular crowd because they're lawbreakers. Then we can definitely eventually win with kids. I'll give you the last word on it, Maddie.

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Oh, it's true women's liberation. Maddie Kearns, a pleasure to see you. I hope you come back on soon. Thanks so much, Megan. All right, all the best. And we are back next with Ruthless. Don't miss the fellas. See you then. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear. Increased tariffs on our trade partners, tax cuts, and regulation changes.

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Mm-hmm. That's right. That's why Marco Rubio is ejecting these people from college campuses. I mean, truly, you're here on a student visa. Sorry. It's a privilege. You come over to my house for dinner and you behave badly, I can throw you out. It doesn't matter. I don't care whether you're here on a visa or you're not here. You're here by invitation, and you can be ejected by... my whim.

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You have no right to be in my home. And that's how Marco Rubio is treating these student visas on college campuses. He got into this. I'll show you. I'm going to get to something else that happened on the murders.

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But he got into this with Representative Jayapal, the squad member, on Wednesday at a hearing of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, because he is trying to eject this Tufts PhD student who wrote this op-ed in the student paper, that was basically aligning with the Free Palestine crowd. And he suggested he has more than that.

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Two courts have looked at it and said he doesn't have more than that and that this is a matter of free speech. It doesn't matter. She has the right to say whatever she wants, sure, while she's here in America. And he has the right to say, I've heard enough. You're out of here. She has no right to based on a student visa, to stay. He can say, I don't agree with those views.

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They don't align with the foreign policy of this administration. Go home. But watch this exchange between Rubio and Jayapal.

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while he was being arrested, the shooter could again be heard screaming free Palestine. And it was caught on tape. That video there from Yuval David. The victims were 28-year-old Yaron Lashinsky and his girlfriend, Sarah Milgram. Yaron reportedly had apparently planned to propose to Sarah next week during a trip to Jerusalem. awful. Here's what we know about the suspect. He's 30 years old.

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I mean, Michael, honestly, even if it is accurate, like, OK, you know, she's made a position clear. He's the secretary of state. He's not real pro on the, you know, divest from Israel or else crowd. And we've seen what they do. We watched what happened on Columbia University's campus with that same crowd.

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You may not like it, but that is consistent with the president's policy when it comes to supporting Israel. So sorry.

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Get out. Right. We just haven't been doing it. So now we're going to start doing it. Good. I stand by Marco Rubio when he says he's going to do more. Here's Representative Ilhan Omar, who hasn't posted a single thing on X.

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She's very active on X. Suddenly, she's gone dark, totally quiet, even though she did post something about the big, beautiful budget bill, which happened, and she posted that after this attack. And then Fox News caught up with her this morning to see if she would comment and watch what happened.

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I'm going to go for now. I'm going to go for now? She says, I'm going to go. I'm going to go for now. Can we play it again? Just play it one more time.

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I'm going to go for now. That's it. It wasn't a provocative question at all. It was as neutral and vanilla as you could possibly ask. She couldn't muster. I condemn it. And I'm so sorry for the two victims. She couldn't even muster that. This woman needs to be voted out of office immediately. I cannot believe that she actually is a sitting U.S. representative in the House of Representatives.

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The left for a long time has been telling us that it's white men and it's the right that perpetrates violence in the United States. Somebody on Twitter, on X, pulled this old sod of Nicole Wallace making this point a couple years ago. Here she is. Oh, no, we don't have it? Okay, we'll get it. We'll get it and we'll drop it in. Okay. In any event, you know I'm right.

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The left has been making this point for a long time about how it's white men that we need to fear. It's right-wing conservatism that's the biggest danger to us in the United States. Like, okay, now we've had Luigi. Now we've had this guy. How many more do we have to have before they actually start paying attention to their rhetoric, their messaging, and their lionization of guys like Luigi?

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Right. Which leads to other people thinking maybe I'll be lionized, too. Maybe I'll have a fan club. Maybe I'll have a GoFundMe. And I'll bet you dollars to donuts this guy's going to get a GoFundMe to support him probably tomorrow. That's probably why Ilhan Omar withheld comment. She's busy setting it up for him.

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Yeah. Okay. So she must be watching because Ilhan Omar literally just dropped the following statement on X. I'm sure she's a big Megyn Kelly.

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Yeah, she's a big Megyn Kelly show and Michael Knowles fan. She writes, I am appalled by the deadly shooting at the Capitol Jewish Museum last night, holding the victims, their families and loved ones in my thoughts and prayers. Violence should have no place in our country. I don't believe her. I don't believe her at all. Otherwise, she wouldn't have paused before turning to that Fox News reporter.

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He's got an online biography that says he was born and raised in Chicago. His LinkedIn profile says he graduated from the University of Illinois, Chicago. The Daily Mail and New York Post report that in the past, Rodriguez was involved in activism with the Party for Socialism and Liberation, not to mention Black Lives Matter. The

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Yeah, no, it's obvious. It's been obvious to us for a while. There was the moment when Fox reporter Hilary Vaughn, do you remember this, caught up with her asking about Hamas terrorists? This was from 2023. She was all over the internet and all over our show just for her insensitivity to what had been done to the Israelis, what was being done to Jews on college campuses here. Here was this moment.

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Ignore this crazy lady. Don't worry about her. That's what Ilhan Omar finally said. I can't I mean, it's really kind of scary that this woman is in the U.S. Congress. I realize the bar is kind of low, but it's she's as low as they come. I mean, truly, we have a true anti-Semite sitting there voting on legislation as we speak.

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isn't she the one who put up the Somalian flag outside of her office? Like, cool. Okay, great. All right. So that's her. And honestly, I mean, our prayers, not just to the families of these victims who had everything in front of them, everything in front of them, they, by all accounts, especially I've been hearing so many testimonials to him.

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What they're saying online is that his mother was Christian. His father was Jewish. And he was a, he was Israeli, I think a dual citizen. And she was Jewish, the girl, but they were about to get engaged that he was reportedly just such a sweet guy. And somebody posted the last posts online of this guy and the suspected shooter. And his last post was so sweet. It

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very different from the guy who shot him. Hold on a second. Let me just see if I can find it. It was disturbing. Yeah, here it is. Marina Medvin posted this on X. The tweet of this Elias Rodriguez was the last one. Oh no, not the last one, but a recent one. Death to America with KKK. It in the America spelling. And here's Yaron Lashinsky, the victim, from May 10th.

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The Party for Socialism is a far-left group that regularly posts anti-Israel rhetoric. The group confirmed Rodriguez's membership online, but distanced itself from the shooting, stating, we have nothing to do with the shooting and do not support it. Cool. However, a few hours earlier, the group had tweeted, the world will not forget the crimes of the U.S. and Israel.

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We are deeply grateful for the historic alliance with our steadfast partner, the United States, and the great American people who have stood by our side. I look forward to working with this administration to bring out about more security, freedom, and peace with an Israeli flag, an American flag, and two hands holding and shaking each other.

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That's exactly right. Okay, let's keep going while we're on the subject of CNN failures. Tapper and Thompson out there pushing this book. They were on the program on Tuesday. And notwithstanding the fact that we gave Jake Tapper a very hard time for not being the right person to author this book, Alex Thompson is fine. He actually can author this book.

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He did not only try to cover some of the Biden decline, but did better than anyone in the so-called mainstream. in trying to hold Kamala Harris's many flip-flops to account by going to her campaign over and over and saying, do you still stand by taxpayer-funded sex changes for prisoners? And she would blow him off. But Axios had an article from him virtually every day on that stuff.

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Okay, so he is continuing and Jake is continuing the press tour. And he went to Alex Thompson on News Nation and spoke with our pal Leland Vittert on Tuesday. And this This is so right on. This is so right on. Watch this clip in SOP 5, 15, sorry, SOP 15.

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In 2017, this guy participated in a BLM led protest regarding the 2014 police involved shooting of Laquan McDonald and Chicago's efforts to bring Amazon's headquarters to the city. The sign Rodriguez held up said red money for people's needs, not Amazon. In an interview, Rodriguez said whitening of Seattle is structurally racist and a direct danger to all workers who live in that city. Wow.

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Pretty amazing. Even the Democrats in the White House were astonished at how compliant the media was in spreading their lies about Joe Biden.

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That's exactly right. Just turn on C-SPAN. You can get some direct messages from Democrats without any media filter and make up your own mind. But they acted. They helped spread the lies and launder the lies. And now they're using this Tapper Thompson book to launder their own cover up into a Gee, we're just now learning about this from this book. This is horrifying information.

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Can't believe that this happened to us. These White House people are really terrible. Meanwhile, you've got I am going to make you look at Nicole Wallace because we had two soundbites from her today. Here she is. This is by somebody on X who goes by Mays Moore.

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This is her, the first one, under Trump calling for polygraphs of his inner circle on his fitness for office versus under the Joe Biden regime when those so-called cheap fake videos showing actual Joe Biden freeze-ups came out. Watch.

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According to the Jerusalem Post, Rodriguez made a political donation to the Joe Biden campaign in 2020. A short time ago, Ken Klippenstein, an independent journalist who used to work for The Intercept, posted to his own website Rodriguez's alleged manifesto. Please understand, these sometimes turn out to be not the manifesto.

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Mm-hmm. You know, it's this kind of dishonesty that has completely sunk the corporate media. I mean, it's just completely sunk them, that among many other things, but they're They're not truth tellers. They're just not truth tellers. They are Democrat soldiers who they're the same in their marching as the North Korean army is when we see them falling over Kim Jong Un.

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They have the same loyalty to the Democrat Party and are marching in their own way. Right. So. Now there's an article out today in the New York Times talking about how there's big money over on the left wing going into fund the, quote, the next Joe Rogan. Like the Democrats are serious about this now.

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They've decided they have to compete in our world, in the digital world, and they've got to find, again, quote, the next Joe Rogan. And it starts with money. They're taking all their money. They have way more money in terms of these dark donors than the Republicans do. They've got to channel it into certain talent to try to create strong voices in the digital lane.

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And I got strong feelings about whether this is going to work, Michael, but I don't think, and then my top line in tossing it to you is, I don't think it's going to work. Among many other reasons, the Democrats aren't authentic and honest. They are the North Korean soldiers. And anybody who would

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be backed by one of these dark money groups to launch his or her podcast will necessarily be owned by them and therefore will be ineffective.

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It's not going to work. That's so true. And by the way, I've heard you, and I've certainly on this show too, have been very critical of Republican leadership, depending on what they're doing. The right doesn't tend to have those same rules as the left does.

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The right is constantly infighting over who's the right candidate, what's the right approach, which side of the MAGA wing should win, what's the approach on foreign policy. They're not pro-censorship and pro the duck march that we see.

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with these weirdos on the left it's just not the way it's not in the right wing bloodstream um so i just don't think it's going to work and you know not for nothing but joe rogan was a bernie sanders voter in 2020 2020 okay so you had joe rogan you ran him out of your party by your extremity you know you're you're just too far out of the mainstream they're too radical michael

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But in it, Klippenstein writes, quote, I am publishing it here not to glorify the violence, but so the public can better understand the truth of what happened. I believe that sunlight is the best disinfectant, especially when politics is involved, as the document makes clear is the case here. That's Klippenstein. But the alleged manifesto. Again, heavy caveat here.

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And not only does the left control the media, I mean, everything except the digital lane and Fox, but they control all of the media. But, of course, they control so many of our cultural institutions like Hollywood, not to mention our financial institutions, which largely lean very, very left. We've seen that with all the woke investing. That's been a disaster over the past five years. Sports.

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And music, music, which is something we don't talk about that often. I don't know if you saw this Bruce Springsteen rant against the president. He's as far left as they come. And by the way, he has really lost his talent. I'm not saying it just to be mean. It's true. He can't sing anymore. Someone needs to give him the gentle tap on the shoulder and tell him it's time to exit screen stage left.

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Here he is in just a bit clip from Manchester, England on May 14th, At a concert, people are trying to hear Bruce Springsteen music. Who gives two dams what he thinks about President Trump? But he's got to launch into it. Watch.

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Okay. First of all, you're in England, so get a grip. They're not rising up against us at all. We rose up against them and found our independence, Bruce. I got to show you the Trump response, which is just perfect. It's a little AI manipulated video. Let's roll it. I'll just describe it for the listening audience.

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I've covered so many of these damn fucking shootings, and we often turn out to have what's allegedly a manifesto, and it's not the manifesto. In any event, this one reads, take it for what it's worth, public opinion has shifted against the genocidal apartheid state, and the American government has simply shrugged.

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It's Trump swinging his golf club, like at the beginning of a, and then Bruce Springsteen, he trips walking upstairs and he makes it look like his golf ball hit Bruce Springsteen. So my point, my largest, larger point is just like this. Yes. We're, we are a reaction to this too. We are a reaction to their control of virtually every institution in America.

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All right. Now, in the minute we have left, are you excited for Pride Month? Michael Knowles, we are just days away now from your favorite time of year.

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Oh my gosh. I mean, I, hallelujah. I hope you're right. We've got an American Pope and we might've reached peak pride. We'll find out momentarily because it starts in June. As my 15 year old very wisely said, why did the LGBTQ people get a whole month and the veterans only get a day? Very good question. Michael Knowles, always a pleasure, my friend. Thanks for coming on.

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They'll do without public opinion then, criminalize it where they can, suffocate it with bland reassurances, blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm not reading more of this. You get the idea. He was very anti-Israel. And his own statements on site made that pretty clear. Before we welcome our guest, Michael Knowles, to talk about this story, there was an extraordinary moment on CNN this morning.

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All right, coming up next, an actual Democrat who does criticize her own side. And they criticize her, too, a lot for coming on this show. But she does it, which speaks well for her. Anna Kasparian, you know her. And we haven't been able to ask her about Trump's attempt to lower the cost of prescription drugs. We'll get into that and much, much more in just a minute with her.

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Since President Trump's election, the eyes of the nation have been on Mar-a-Lago and the free state of Florida. It's a thriving, booming place. South Florida is a special place because of its amazing water for boating, swimming, fishing, and drinking. Today, clean water is endangered by toxic algae. You may have heard of red tide or blue-green algae. It can be dangerous and it can be gross.

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In his first term, President Trump signed a law to solve this problem with a new reservoir south of Lake Okeechobee to keep clean, fresh water flowing constantly to South Florida. President Trump said after years of rebuilding other nations, we're finally rebuilding our nation. Washington can finish the job in next year's budget and keep president Trump's promise.

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The Everglades foundation, our advertiser says that would be good for Florida and good for the Everglades. Learn more about president Trump's Everglades support project at evergladesfoundation.org. Democrats continue to spiral and pass the blame on covering up Joe Biden's health and the 2024 loss. So what comes next? Joining me now, someone who has a lot of thoughts.

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She is the host and executive producer of The Young Turks, Anna Kasparian. Anna, welcome back. So there's... some soul searching. I don't know if that's, is it real? Is it real soul searching? Is it like just desperate darts at a board stuff?

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What's happening right now as the Democrats deal with this Tapper book, in addition to the other books that have come out and just the reality of Trump governing.

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You know, it's funny because when we watched the Democrats these past four years and earlier than that, too, we pointed out many times when things weren't going Joe Biden's way in the polls, for example, while while he was just president or while he was running, they would constantly say, we've got to change the message. Like people aren't understanding how great he is.

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Another eyewitness to the shooting went on to describe what he saw. And he had a blunt take on the shooting and how it ties into what we've seen on so many of these college campuses. And would you just watch the anchor revolt? You can see she's very uncomfortable with him making this tie. What a shock. Watch this.

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Like it's it's the messaging. That's the problem, as opposed to the underlying policies or like the actual choices he was making open borders for one. And now it seems like they're in the same damning cycle where the reports are, what we need is more online influencers. What we need is our own Joe Rogan. So we're going to throw money at developing a Joe Rogan type on the left.

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It happened last night around 9 p.m. outside the Jewish Museum in Washington, D.C. According to eyewitnesses, the alleged gunman, Elias Rodriguez, was seen sitting calmly on a bench outside of the event and then pacing back and forth. He approached a group of people leaving the museum and shot two of them at close range. Rodriguez then calmly walked back inside the museum.

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And from my perch, all I can think is that's not it. When you get your well-funded left-wing guy who is a man's man, who's into like martial arts and mixed martial arts and is cool and is funny and somebody that other guys can look up to, he cannot then spend the two hours saying, You you can't say that word and you can't say that word. And we have to begin with a land acknowledgement every day.

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Yeah, exactly. Or on the BLM front, like I'm happy to be more inclusive of people, but don't tell me our goal is to dismantle the nuclear family like it's an evil.

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You can't have that. I mean, there are some people who are diehard MAGA who will still hold it against people who were pro-DeSantis. You know, I see that still on Twitter. It's like, what is the point of that? You know, like Trump has won. Take the W, run with it, build the coalition. I mean, who cares what happened during the primaries?

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But I would say in general, you're right, that Republicans are much more accepting of different viewpoints and different political philosophies than I've seen over on Team Blue, who resemble North Korea to me in their efforts to make people toe the party line and, you know, continue the right messaging and get Joe Biden across that finish line. We don't care how infirm he is.

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This New York Times article from two days ago is titled Democrats Throw Money at a Problem Countering GOP Clout Online. And this is speaking to that effort to find the new Joe Rogan.

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At donor retreats and in pitch documents seen by the Times, liberal strategists are pushing the party's rich backers to reopen their wallets for a cavalcade of projects to help Dems, as the cliche now goes, find the next Joe Rogan. They're trying to energize glum donors and persuade them that they can compete culturally with President Trump if only they throw enough money at the problem.

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The quiet effort amounts to an audacious skeptics might say desperate bet that Democrats can buy more cultural relevance online. And it ends with them. hoping to move away from the current didactic, uh, hall monitor style of democratic politics that turns off young voters.

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And, uh, they will focus on directly funding influencers and co-producing their content, opening a creator talent agency and starting by inking deals with four flagship creators, according to a business plans to share with the times. Now you were in this space, like one of you, one of the OGs, the young Turks has been around a long time since I was on Fox.

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And you tell me whether it can be recreated with just a deep pocket and some handpicked selection by some unknown Democratic donor group.

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Yeah, I mean, I see it now. It's like one of the reasons I'm thrilled that nobody owns one share of my company other than me. I don't have any investors. I'm the only investor. And because then no one owns you. You know, the people who advertise on my show, you know, Genyacel doesn't call me up telling me what to say about presidential politics. They just want the platform to sell their makeup.

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And it's a great brand and I'm happy to endorse it. But my point is they don't control me and none of them would ever try. they'd be booted off the show immediately. And so it's like, by definition, the way they're going about this will not work.

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You cannot have like the democratic apparatus create this star who then can somehow become a Joe Rogan because you can't become a Joe Rogan if you're owned by anybody. If you're sent out there with any agenda other than the one you just outlined, which is to tell people your honest opinions and the facts as you know them.

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What do you make of that on that front? Because you were the first person I thought of when Trump announced his executive order on negotiating on drug prices. And you had said at your last appearance here, like, hello, why is nobody focusing on that? It was a Bernie issue. Trump's trying to take it on. Trump did try to take it on once before and it got struck down legally.

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And this may too, as an executive order, it really has to be done legislatively. But yes, he's probably, you know, this is the time right now with the big, beautiful bill. But what did you make of what Trump did?

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It's so annoying. Yes. The Republicans are not above that sort of grift either. They both sides love it. If you are lining their pockets, their political future is more important to them than doing the right thing. And so that's the problem. But, um, Look, I like that he's trying.

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And if he doesn't try to get it into this big, beautiful bill, it's not going to happen because that will probably meet the same fate as the earlier one did. On the subject of the Dems, Bernie, the Medicare prices and the prescription drugs, he went on the Flagrant podcast recently. with our pal Andrew Schultz, and they had a really interesting discussion.

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Here's a bit where he's talking about the problem within the Democrat Party. It's SOT19.

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I love the way he talks. The accent is just so great to listen to. He's not wrong, right? I mean, he of all people has standing to say that because it happened to him twice in Yep.

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Here he is speaking to some of these issues that you just outlined. Here's SOT20.

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And then I'll give you one more because he followed up on no one wants to keep doing this identity politics thing anymore. It's not 21.

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Yes. You're an idiot. That is not what you ask the fucking eyewitness. Oh, she's so worried about the tie he's making to the violence that was just unleashed against two people walking out of this Israel event. And what we're hearing on college campuses, literally calling for an intifada against anybody who's pro-Israel. So heaven forbid you make that connection. Sorry, it's obvious.

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Hmm. They're big and their build is more moderate. That's what you always hear about third way. They're the more moderate Democrats.

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And it happens on both sides. OK, I want to keep going. The Tapper Thompson book, the Democrats using it. I said this the last hour to sort of whitewash their own complicity. The media is. I didn't know. Oh my God, it's so much new information in here. Now I finally know. And I'm angry that it was hidden from me. Very, very angry.

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And we're all sitting over here like, who do you think you're kidding? This was no better exemplified anywhere than when Tapper went on and sat across from Morning Joe and tried to absolve Morning Joe of his best Biden ever rant in the following exchange. Watch.

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No one's saying, Sarah Sider, that they caused it. that they made this guy do it, but it's exactly the same rhetoric. And Jewish people are getting a little sick of college campuses allowing these people to run around calling for their murder. It's kind of upsetting. She recoils at him making the connection. Fuck off. I'm sorry. That's so fucking annoying. Joining me now, Michael Knowles.

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That's the thing. It's like it reminds me of the Hitler was always very nice to me. It's like, OK, sure. I'm sure Hitler found a journalist or two he wanted to manipulate and was totally sweet to. But then your eyes and your ears, your ability to see and hear other people's stories lead you to understand Hitler's not a good man. Okay, I'm not saying Joe Biden is Hitler.

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I'm just saying, your only evidence of somebody and who and how they are is not just your own one-on-one interactions with them. It can be a counterpoint. You can say, every time I've been with him, he has seemed sharp. But you're a hack.

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If you just go out on the air and demand that they roll the tape and everybody has to believe you because this is the best Biden ever, notwithstanding what 77% of the American people were seeing and saying in the polls, they knew he wasn't up to the job. It's just such hackery. So How do you see the latest revelation about his health announcement?

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And do you believe him that he didn't have a PSA test since 2014 and that this was all a big surprise to him that came just on the eve of this book hitting and the HER report coming out?

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And why aren't the statements signed by a doctor? Why do both of the statements that came out, the first announcement and then the clarification about when he allegedly last had a PSA test come from the office of the Bidens, like the Biden office? No name, no doctor. No one is actually looking us in the eye and saying this is true.

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Have Dr. Kevin O'Connor come out and say, let me take all your questions. He didn't want it. We figured he was of a certain age. We stopped doing it. I explained to him, these are the risks. He said, it's fine. We would be able to hear the ring of truth if it were true. There's a reason they're not doing it. On top of all that, Dr. Keith Abloh came out.

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He actually did a very interesting show the other day on how he's had prostate cancer and was making a couple of points. First, just FYI, we had Dr. Abloh, Dr. Drew, forgive me. Dr. Drew was making the point that he's had prostate cancer and that the first line of defense is this, it's called ADT. and that it causes all sorts of side effects that jibe with what looks like cognitive decline.

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And so from his standpoint, you know, more questions have to be asked. Here's a little bit of that in SOT13.

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Okay, so the other thing that's very interesting about that, Anna, is we had a doctor on the program, Samadhi, David Samadhi, who is like the prostate cancer surgeon to go to, if you get this. And he said the fact that that initial statement said that the cancer is responsive, it's hormone responsive, means they've tried it. Because he said, you don't know that until you've actually given

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He's hosted The Michael Knowles Show for The Daily Wire. This July, there's a global summit of BRICS nations in Rio de Janeiro. The bloc of emerging superpowers, or so they hope to be, including China, Russia, India, and Iran, are meeting with the goal of displacing the U.S. dollar as the global currency. They're calling it the Rio Reset.

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I think ADT, the thing that blocks the testosterone. There is no way they could say it's responsive to hormone treatment without having given it to him and seeing the PSA test numbers go down, down, down. So all of that I think is actual, like that's as close as we're going to get to real evidence that he is still lying to us. And so I love your thoughts on that.

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And then also on, there's more chatter in the times about how, sorry, this is from the bulwark saying every Democrat from now on is gonna have to be under the age of 70. And they're all gonna have to show their colonoscopy exams. It's gonna have to be full revelation in order for anybody to become the next nominee.

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No, no. And the reporting in the book is that he fully knew and was actively engaged in trying to cover it up. Um, here's the other question though. Does the Democrat party, you know, keep in mind we're on, we're under the auspices of, Oh my God, we're now figuring it out. Oh, so horrible. That's what, okay. This is the routine we're getting right now.

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How do they nominate Kamala Harris for anything? How do they nominate Pete Buttigieg or any other Biden cabinet member for anything? Because they all have the stank on them.

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You know, I asked him, Tapper, when he was here, because he was telling me that these people who are in his book now lied to him when it was pre the election, that he tried and they were lying. And I said, you know, what are you going to do with like these cabinet secretaries? and these other sources too, who now come on your show and you know they're liars.

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You know they lied to you to protect him and their electoral chances. You know it. It's not like you just suspect it. Now you're telling me you know it. So do you book them again? Do you give them the platform on CNN? He said he'd have to think about it. I mean, there's really nothing to think about. The answer is no. According to his theory, they're responsible for his humiliation too.

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And we've talked before about men and women's sports, boys and girls sports. And there's another instance of it that caught our attention that I wanted to raise out in California. They're they're still doing this, notwithstanding the Trump executive order. He's fighting the main governor to try to make her stop it, both at the college, which has largely been taken care of, but not entirely.

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That's so annoying to me. No one's saying that the people on the College of Columbia directly caused that guy to unleash this violence. But it would be asinine to not note this is exactly the same rhetoric we're hearing on these far-left college campuses from coast to coast. Obviously, this guy is rattled. He was an eyewitness to it. But you're not allowed to make that connection on CNN, Michael.

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And also the high school, which has not been taken care of level at all. And in California, where Gavin Newsom wants us to believe he thinks this is very unfair, he's completely allowing it with no consequences. So they had a California girls track meet. It was, let's see, the finals, the Southern section of California finals for track and field events on this past Saturday.

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And there was a girl named Reese Hogan who who has been working her butt off for the past several years doing track since her freshman year. She's a junior now. We found a little background on her. In her sophomore year, she started taking track more seriously. She recently got a private coach. She puts in a ton of hours with that trainer.

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She also does volleyball, both beach and club, and has to balance all of that while continually training for track. She trains every single day for track. And she was on her way toward winning this regional final. So she landed her personal best in the triple jump and a school record, too, of 37 feet, two inches at the Southern Section finals. Personal best, school record.

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She did not, however, win first place in the triple jump because a male did. Someone who goes by the name of A.B. Hernandez, who is also a junior. And this boy won the event by over four feet, 41 feet, four inches, which is a mile in the triple jump. He crushed her.

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We happen to know that she and many of her other female athletes did not know the first year AB started competing that he was actually a biological boy because he didn't tell anybody. But then when they started watching him perform, It became very obvious he was far outmatching these girls. And nonetheless, they allowed this guy to go atop the winner's podium and stand in the first place slot.

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And everybody cheered for him like he was the legitimate winner. And when he stepped off of that top most elevated post, she, Reese Hogan, got up there and stood there. I'm actually kind of emotional about it. She stood atop that podium so she could receive the applause for being the actual winner. I'm just so tired of this. I'm so tired of this.

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He also won the long jump title, which he also stole from another girl. What do you make of it?

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Yep. Here he is, just as a reminder on his own podcast, telling Charlie Kirk how unfair he thinks this would be.

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You're not allowed to say, gee— I don't really like these chants being allowed everywhere because it's endorsing something that, you know what, kind of feels a little genocide-y, kind of feels a little murder-y. And now we've had two pro-Israel, Israeli embassy workers killed.

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And in the chaos of the scene, people initially thought he was a victim. One witness saying the shooter said, I did it. I did it for Gaza. Free, free Palestine. Another witness described those moments to Fox 5 local in DC.

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He's done nothing. And Charlie raised this athlete. And let me just give you one other thing. There's another athlete named Katie McGinnis. She's a track and athlete senior in this same region. And last Saturday, Katie's long jump leap of 18 feet, 0.95 inches was was, um, she was jumped. She had jumped further than any girl across all four divisions that she was competing against. Um, 18 feet.

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That's crazy. Wow. 18 feet and nine, nine and a half inches. Um, It was, I think, yeah, it was her goal. She accomplished her goal of being a champion, but she was not recognized as such because there was one person who did better. And that was the boy claiming to be a girl, A.B.

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Hernandez, who not only took the triple jump medal from Reese Hogan, but the long jump medal from Katie McGinnis, who also has been... training for years for this. The long jump is her best event. She has the longest long jump in California amongst all high school girls. She trains every day, six days a week, year round. She's been training for four years.

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She's broken school records up and down the board in track and no girl, And all of California can jump farther than Katie. Only this boy, AB Hernandez, can do it and did do it. And these Californians still cheered. And Gavin Newsom did nothing, Anna.

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Yeah. And meanwhile, these girls continue to suffer. And while he gives lip service when he's across from Charlie Kirk, including with respect to this particular athlete, this boy poisoning as a girl, he does nothing to help them. Nothing. And by the way, on that subject with Katie McGinnis, who did the 18 foot nine and a half inch, 18, nine and a half inch jump.

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Her dad points out she can jump farther than any girl in the state of California. She's an elite jumper. On the other hand, there are 780 boys in California this year who have jumped Katie's personal record of 20 feet 4 inches or further. It is... much easier for the boys. They're taller. They're stronger. They have more musculature. Their bones are longer.

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There's all sorts of reasons why they beat us. And it's no insult to the girls to acknowledge that it is one to force them to compete under these circumstances. Anna Kasparian, thank you. Thanks so much. It's great to see you. Good to be here. Tomorrow, Maureen Callahan's here. You're going to love it. Before we actually go, I just wanted to continue on with that.

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I just have a couple of other thoughts. We've talked a lot in this show about the dangers to women, you know, the basketball players from that school Lowell in Massachusetts who were injured when that trans player, a boy pretending to be a girl, hurt them. With the KIPP Academy, remember that?

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We've talked about the girl, the field hockey player in Massachusetts who had her teeth knocked out and severe facial injuries from playing against a biological boy. We've talked at length about Peyton McNabb. There have been many other situations. And that's really, that's reason enough. Just the obvious risk of putting your girl up against a post pubescent boy or even mid pubescent boy.

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Who even has to argue it? I mean, it's obvious. It's obvious what the risks are, but, um, the unfairness is what we saw in this California situation, track and field. There was no danger to these girls of AB Hernandez hurting them on the long jump or the high jump. Um,

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What is so powerful, so powerful about watching Reese Hogan step up on that top platform is the thing I try to always mention when we discuss these stories, which is they're not just stealing medals and potential scholarships. They're stealing the glorious feeling of victory from these girls. They're stealing the joy and confidence builder of winning, which is something which matters.

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How do you build a winner? Is it You just come in second place all the time. Just come in second, no matter how hard you work, how hard you train, how many days a week, how much you sacrifice. And they do sacrifice. They sacrifice their physical health. I guarantee you these girls have had injuries that they've had a nurse back because they trained so hard.

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They sacrifice their grades, oftentimes, because if you're an elite athlete like this, you don't have time to study the way the girls who aren't doing this do. So you are taking the hit and you're on the academic front. In all likelihood, you sacrifice time with your friends.

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You're not going out for the late night parties on Fridays that happen, even when you're in high school that are so fun and can be kind of important to making friends or finding a boyfriend. You're not doing that. You're going to bed early because you have a very early morning track meet. I mean, I know, I know a And they are gunners. They want it. They've got ambition. They've got drive.

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They've got commitment. And they deserve the chance to cross the finish line first. They deserve the ability to feel the feeling that comes from hearing your name read out as the winner. from seeing your personal best hijab. Be obviously the winner because it's not just your personal best. You bested every other girl in the state, but yet you still can't win in California.

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You don't get the blue ribbon. You don't get the first place trophy. You don't get your name mentioned first in the newspaper articles. It's wrong. It's wrong. I don't give two shits how good it makes AB Hernandez feel. You're a cheater. You're cheating, sir. I'm sorry your school doesn't appear to have an open category.

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That's not the problem, or shouldn't be at least, of Katie McGinnis and Reese Hogan. You can still run with the boys, which is where you belong. It's just so wrong. And the fact that this girl, can we just see the video again? Or she, she gets up. We only have five seconds of it. She gets up on top on the top platform. She kind of just sneaks up after it's over. Let's watch it. It's awful.

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It's awful. She's kind of almost embarrassed about it, you can see. And she shouldn't be. She has nothing to be embarrassed about. Gavin Newsom does. A.B. Hernandez does. The school district does. Shame on them. Because even if you could give these girls scholarships, they deserve. And by the way, don't think it's not happening.

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Don't think it's not happening that they're recruiting more and more boys to play girls' sports because it means you're going to win. It means you're going to win. I mean, I told you the story in Westchester County. I was told by a parent at a school, a private school there.

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They got rid of their athletic director because that athletic director was not recruiting enough boys to play girls hockey, ice hockey. And that's a disadvantage now. So it's just you're depriving them of something much more fundamental. You are depriving them of confidence builders that girls must have to become their strongest, best selves, that girls are entitled to. It's their right.

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It is literally their right. if they're the best long jumper or high jumper in the state of California amongst all girls to have the top trophy, the blue ribbon and the top podium. And everyone knows it. I don't know. And when we elected Trump, he's fighting the good fight that Cretan Gavin Newsom wants credit for being on our side, but doing fucking nothing, nothing about it.

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I'm starting to rethink whether we should go on his show. You know what? Maybe I should make a lobbying campaign to go on and we can just spend the whole time talking about this. You know, I always say like my goal in an interview, if I'm doing it right, is not to emerge with the person's jugular, figuratively speaking. It just might be if I were to sit across from him.

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Anyway, I just wanted to add that because I didn't feel like I'd fully expressed what was so horrifying about that situation and why her sneaking that moment on the top platform was... so compelling and moved me so much. Hope you feel the same and let's stay fighting the good fight. We're winning, but it's not over. Talk to you tomorrow. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show.

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Not to mention, you know, CNN, that one reporter, he interviewed Taylor Lorenz. They're laughing about Luigi, like he's been lionized over there. Not to mention they had Caitlin Collins out there promoting his crowdfund link. Um, you know, maybe now might be a time to be a little bit more careful in, in how you handle these stories.

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It's possible you've made, you've been a little too slow to connect these messages to resulting violence, right? You've been a little too quick to fan the flames, um, of, of, or to tamp down the flames, connecting all this rhetoric and then resulting violence. I just, Like CNN, I don't know what they're doing over there, but it's not journalism. She immediately pivoted.

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Why don't you just get his story? Get his testimonial. This is how he feels. Shut the fuck up with your justifications of what we're hearing on college campuses. It's so annoying to me that he just watched two people get shot to death. He's upset. He's drawing a comparison to the rhetoric he's been hearing for two years now on college campuses. Let him have his say, Sarah.

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Yeah, same. I've said before, it's totally fine to criticize Israel. It is fine to think that they've over-responded to the horrific attack that they suffered on 10-7. But you don't run around chanting, globalize the intifada, and from the river to the sea, all of the... These are violent. These are calling for violence. That's really what they are. It's different. Free Palestine. OK, that one.

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Yeah, I understand. That's less less controversial. But these chants that we've been hearing on college campuses as these activists harass Jewish students, in some cases, assault Jewish students. And then if I hear one more person try to tell me that, oh, no, these are Jewish students doing the violence on college campuses like Jewish voices for peace. It's such a joke.

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They're the this is not a pro Israel group. This is not even really a pro Jewish group. This is a group of radicals who are pro Hamas, who are masquerading as Jewish people who speak for Jewish people. And they're not. And even it's it's infuriating. And now two people are dead. And my understanding is, yeah, go ahead.

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President Trump welcoming South African President Cyril Ramaphosa a week after the U.S. admitted 59 white refugees from South Africa who say they face discrimination in their home country. President Ramaphosa in January signing a law allowing land seizures without compensation where it is just and equitable and in the public interest.

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White people are about 7% of the population in South Africa, but hold about three-quarters of the farmland. In recent years, many accounts of grisly attacks on the South African farms, including dozens of murders. The South African government does not release statistics on race and crime.

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But a South African farmers union reports that of all murders between 1990 and 2017, 87 percent were of whites. President Trump has accused the South African government of allowing a genocide against Afrikaners, a white minority group largely composed of farmers. Mr. Trump getting right to it on Wednesday.

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A dramatic confrontation in the Oval Office as President Trump confronts the president of South Africa over what he says is a genocide of white farmers.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Thursday, May 22nd, 2025, and this is your AM Update.

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President Ramaphosa emphatically denies accusations of a genocide in his country. One reporter questioning President Trump.

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Following the four-and-a-half-minute video, President Trump flipping through a stack of news articles detailing what he says are vicious crimes perpetrated against white South African farmers. Mr. Trump pointing out that the people in the video calling to shoot and kill white farmers are political leaders chanting to packed stadiums holding 100,000 supporters.

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President Trump reignites concerns over who was making key decisions during the Biden presidency, as new reporting says Mr. Biden was not calling the shots in his own White House. And the Sean Diddy Combs trial carries on with new testimony from including an expert witness on domestic abuse. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update.

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President Ramaphosa and the South African agricultural minister pushing back.

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The agricultural minister confirming attacks on farmers, but saying they affect black farmers as well, telling Mr. Trump South Africa is seeking new trade and security partnerships to help protect all farmers, specifically highlighting the need for expanded access to Starlink, the satellite Internet company founded by Elon Musk. Mr. Musk, born in South Africa, though now a U.S.

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citizen, is a vocal critic of the country's black economic empowerment laws, which in some cases require companies to be at least 30 percent black-owned in order to operate.

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Bloomberg reporting South African officials held a meeting with Mr. Musk prior to their Oval Office visit, reportedly preparing to offer him a workaround to those racial ownership requirements in order to bring Starlink into the country. Mr. Musk asked about the potential deal on Tuesday. at the Qatar Economic Forum, criticizing the law.

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The White House meeting with South African leaders comes at a critical moment. President Trump now threatening to pull out of the G20 summit set for Johannesburg this November unless South Africa addresses U.S. concerns over race-based laws and violence against its citizens.

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The move would mark a dramatic diplomatic snub, putting the first ever G20 hosted on the African continent at risk of losing its most powerful member. Democrats and legacy media reckoning with the fallout from the Biden book Original Sin. which paints a damning portrait of the effort to conceal the true extent of President Biden's cognitive decline in office.

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Co-authors Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson's reporting depicting President Biden as merely a senior member of a board rather than a commander-in-chief. Alex Thompson telling The Megyn Kelly Show on Tuesday even Biden cabinet secretaries questioned who was making the decisions.

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Trust in the media is at an all-time low, and let's be honest, it's no mystery why. We have all seen how stories are twisted, buried, or outright ignored, depending on who's in charge or what narrative they want you to believe.

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With these revelations, President Trump reigniting concerns about President Biden's use of the auto pen, a device that signs the president's signature to official documents without his physical presence. While the practice is legal and not new, President Trump and other critics argue its frequent use under Mr. Biden raises questions about how often.

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and how directly the president engaged in key decisions.

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When Joe Biden entered the 2020 race, many in the Democratic establishment pitching him as a stabilizing force, a moderate elder statesman who could steady the ship after the turbulent Trump years. The Biden presidency deviating sharply from that image, most notably at the southern border.

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But now there's Ground News, an app and website that gathers related articles from around the world in one place, highlighting each source's political bias and corporate influence. Ground News created their Blindspot feed to expose important stories receiving lopsided coverage and reveal how media narratives shape the conversation.

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President Trump following up his remarks on Tuesday with a post on Truth Social, reading in part, quote, It was the people that knew he was cognitively impaired and that took over the Autopen. They stole the presidency of the United States and put us in great danger. This is treason at the highest level. They did it to destroy our country.

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Something very severe should happen to these treasonous thugs that wanted to destroy our country but couldn't because I came along. Coming up, the latest details from the Sean Diddy Combs criminal trial, including more information on the items recovered from the home search. And Democrat Congressman Jerry Connolly passes away following a battle with cancer.

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As President Trump is settling into his new administration, one of the top Democrats in Congress aiming to undermine the Trump agenda is Democrat Senator Dick Durbin of Illinois. And according to our sponsor, the Electronic Payments Coalition, Senator Durbin has a new plan, a government takeover of your credit card.

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Today, Americans have thousands of choices in credit cards, but they say Senator Durbin's plan will result in less competition and less security, which means more risk for your credit and your identity. You can learn more for yourself at guardyourcard.com. And you could consider telling your senators to stop Dick Durbin's government takeover of your credit card before it's too late.

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The Sean Diddy Combs trial continuing Wednesday in a New York federal courtroom. Homeland Security Special Agent Gerard Gannon kicking off the day with more details of the March 2024 search of Mr. Combs' Miami home. Agent Gannon testifying to finding cocaine, ketamine, and MDMA contained in a Gucci bag within Combs' closet.

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The jury shown more photos of the items found, including boxes containing 25 bottles of baby oil, 31 bottles of personal lubricant. Gannon also telling the jury a handgun was recovered in a guard shack on the property. On cross-examination, Gannon telling the defense the AR-15 rifles found in Combs' closet were dismantled and not loaded. Forensic psychologist Dawn Hughes then taking the stand. Ms.

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Hughes previously testified in other high-profile cases, including the Amber Heard-Johnny Depp trial and the R. Kelly case. Hughes testifying that she had not personally assessed anyone involved in this case. The psychologist called to explain why some victims stay in abusive relationships, saying abusers use other methods of control beyond just the physical. Quote, it's not just about hitting.

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It's about a lot of abusive behaviors that make a victim feel trapped. Combs' ex-girlfriend, Cassie Ventura, last week telling the court Combs would often call dozens of times in a row in periods where they broke up, also sending security guards to contact Ventura if she did not respond.

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The expert witness telling prosecutors, quote, there's almost always also love between an abuser and the abused, and that it is common for victims to wait months or years before talking about the abuse. The defense portraying Ms. Hughes as a hired gun who will say anything for money so long as it's against a man accused of a sex crime.

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And now you get 40% off the same unlimited access to their website and app through the Vantage plan, which you can use to find the truth. Ground News is independent and supported by subscribers, not corporate interests. Check them out at groundnews.com slash Megan. That's G-R-O-U-N-D news.com slash Megan to take back control of the news you consume. A wild confrontation in the Oval Office.

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Prosecutors working to portray star witness Cassie Ventura as a victim of Combs as they try to prove she was sex trafficked, a central pillar of the case against him. The defense arguing while the relationship was volatile, Ms. Ventura was a willing participant in the so-called freak-offs. Democrat congressman from Virginia, Jerry Connolly, died on Wednesday, age 75.

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The longtime lawmaker revealing in April that his esophageal cancer, first diagnosed in November 2024, had returned despite initial success combating the disease. Mr. Connolly then announcing he would not seek re-election and was planning to step down as ranking member of the House Oversight Committee.

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Despite his diagnosis, establishment Democrats last December backing Mr. Connolly in a high-profile internal race for the top oversight seat to defeat challenger AOC. Mr. Connolly's death leaving open a safe blue seat in Virginia's 11th district. While the district will likely stay in Democrat hands, the vacancy leaving Republicans with a 220 to 212 advantage.

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Virginia Governor Glenn Youngkin has not yet announced a date for the special election. And that'll do it for your AM Update. I'm Megyn Kelly. Join me back here for The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Triumph Channel, 111 at Noon East, on YouTube.com slash Megyn Kelly, and on all podcast platforms.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. We are going to get to some of the stories in the world of culture that have been dominating social media this week, from what's happening with this Snow White and the actress who apparently can't stand her character, to these weird tapes of Alec Baldwin and his wife.

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Mm-hmm. Their true colors come out. There was another interesting piece in the Netflix doc about his mother, Roberta, who I must say comes across as a villain in this thing. But before we get to that, can we talk about what happened, Joe, when Gabby went down to Florida?

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You guys, as I understand, she was raised in Long Island, but then she moved down to Florida to be with Brian, and she was with him and his parents. And the mother... started off fine toward Gabby, but this is before the van trip. She took a turn, and there's speculation on why she took a turn in the piece, Joe.

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And one of the things the family wants to speak about is how we can do better, these cops, but any cop and any family member seeing the signs of domestic abuse. Many people have no idea what it looks like, sounds like, what the warning signs are. Here is that 911 call.

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To me, it's interesting just because now you have a window into this being a very unwell young man. And so the parents are obviously a source of interest, too. And the mother's jealousy over a girlfriend is odd and strange. And you see Gabby texts in this piece, too. Once again, Roberta seems mad at her and Brian acknowledging she gets very dark. This happened throughout my childhood.

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You know, just be patient. It passes. So it's still a mystery there, but we're gleaning more from this piece than we had prior about these parents who were totally uncooperative in the search for Gabby and appear, based on what I saw, in the film to have known right from the get-go that he killed her. I mean, that seems pretty clear that they got on the phone.

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I mean, I'll bring you in on this, Brian, as the attorney. It appears from the phone logs that the parents called their lawyer, that they lawyered up immediately after getting a call from Brian in the Grand Tetons within what looks like hours of Gabby dying.

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Right. So because it looks like you guys reveal that he we believe it was the next day after we believe the murder happened. I think that we believe the murder was 827 of 21 and that on 828, he called his parents, had an hour long conversation with his mother. And then the next call the parents made was to a lawyer.

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And then we know shortly thereafter, Brian returned home to Florida without Gabby, which no one knew. And you guys, meanwhile, Joe and Tara are frantic. Eventually you get frantic at the beginning. You're like, I haven't heard from Gabby. Where's Gabby? She's kind of, you know, she's whatever. She's in the desert. And then it switches over to, no, this is not normal.

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And that's when you brought in the national media. And ultimately, you kept going to Brian's parents saying, have you guys heard from them? And they were completely uncooperative. And we now know we're housing Brian. We believe also knew what he had done, or at least that Gabby was no longer with us. And we're trying to cover it up or hide it or do something other than the right thing.

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So can you just take us back to that time, Joe? And it was you, was it not, who brought in the national media to try to get attention?

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Right, because what you guys knew in the beginning was that he's home. Suddenly you find out he's home and the van is here, but Gabby is not here. And so is it the case that they never spoke to you? Like you obviously you were calling and Nikki, Gabby's mom was calling and her husband, Jim, was calling. So did they ever speak to you?

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That's so right. That's exactly it. I cannot imagine your frustration while you're trying to find your child and the parents of the young man she was traveling with just won't respond to you. They just won't. They won't say anything, which is why eventually you called the police.

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It was eventually, you know, you, you did call the police and got attention via the media and the police went to Brian Laundrie's parents' home where he'd been staying with them in Florida and And the video of some of what happened appears in the Netflix flick. Let's watch a little bit in SOT6.

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Okay, so it was after you knew what had happened with Gabby. But you must have been told by the police the parents won't get... It's not that just that we couldn't reach them. It's not that they said they don't know. It's that they're refusing to talk to us. And your reaction when you heard that was what?

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Yeah, that had to be the beginning of realizing what had happened. I totally understand. Oh, it's awful. It's awful. Just to jump to the worst part was when you found out, of course, that he had killed her, that she was dead and her remains were found.

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And then there was a period thereafter where we realized Ryan had escaped, for lack of a better term, from his parents' house, notwithstanding the media and the cops having all eyes on him. And he eventually took his own life in a park not far from his home.

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And his bodies, his remains were found about a month after he shot himself in the head, according to the coroner, with a bizarre suicide note. I don't want to spend a lot of time on it, but he tried to blame Gabby. He tried to say she hurt herself and it was a mercy kill. And just for the record, that's utter nonsense, correct?

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Can I just say one thing? So you were able to chuckle there, uh, Joe, when we were showing the note, it's pretty extraordinary as I've been watching you. I don't know you watching you. You seem like a very affable man. And that's how your daughter was too. Is it, is how are you, how are you even able to, to laugh? Like in Given everything you've been through, is it just your natural countenance?

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Is it something you were born with that you passed along to your beautiful daughter? Talk about how you handle that emotionally.

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I mean, I've interviewed a lot of domestic violence survivors, a lot, and most of them older than Gabby. And the patterns are so familiar, right? The woman making excuses for the man, the woman wanting and needing to believe the promises that it will never happen again. the woman returning to the man and then defending and making excuses for the man.

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And of course, all of his controlling behavior over her, you know, and it does tend to be escalatory. You're right. The love bombing starts. Almost every woman I know says I would leave after the first hit. The first time he hit me or punched me, I'd be out the door. And it's just far more complicated than that. Strong women, smart women, successful women stay. They do stay.

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There are all sorts of psychological and emotional reasons why they stay. So everyone listening to this needs to know it could happen to you. It could happen to your daughter. And it's the outside circle. Hopefully that can help the person who's being hurt extract themselves from it. But you can't if you don't know the signs. And that brings me to what happened in Moab with the 911 call.

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By the way, I've been meaning to ask you, have you guys ever met the guy who called 911 after they saw Brian hit Gabby?

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I wonder if like he would, I bet he'd love to meet you. I mean, he tried, you know, like that's just a good Samaritan who tried. He saw what was happening and he did what most people like might not do, like get involved, you know, call the cops on somebody. Actually, I believe most people probably would have, but many people would not have. In any event, so we played that soundbite.

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He called the 911 and then the police showed up. And the police are very affable. They seem to be wanting to do the right thing, but they do not do the right thing. And they let the whole story get manipulated on site. By Brian and frankly, Gabby.

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But that's if you know anything about DV, you know that she's going to do that, you know, and you have an eyewitness, an independent eyewitness saying he hit her. He hit her when they show up on the scene. She's got bruises and cuts on her face, bruises on her arm, which they do point out. And he's got some sort of marks on his face, too. There, there's the terrible picture.

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And here's just a bit of how the exchange went when the cops via body cam start talking to Gabby about what happened at SOT 8.

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What do you wish those cops knew, Tara? What do you what do you wish those cops on site with Gabby that day knew?

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So you have nothing to lose but those high blood pressure numbers. Go to 120life.com. That's 120life.com. And remember to use code MK to save 15%. Thank you all so much for being here. I'm really grateful to you for speaking out. I'm sure even four years later, it is not easy. I've watched the Netflix documentary. It's very powerful. Joe, let me start with you on that.

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For the losing audience, you're putting your hand in front of like your your chin.

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Right. The fact that he had marks on him does not mean she was the aggressor. Keep going.

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Do you want to speak to that, the lethality assessment that more cops are now starting to do?

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As Gabby's dad, why did you think it was a good idea to do the documentary and to cooperate in making this story?

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These guys said they had training. I mean, that's the thing. And like the way they're talking about it is like guys who have had training, but you know, you have to wonder if it was the right training. Can you give us a couple of the lethality questions, Joe?

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So that's incredible. All right. Let me let me keep it going because I do want to spend a little bit more time in this traffic stop. Yeah. Then they talked to Brian and Brian, he's not crying. He's actually kind of laughing at a couple of points on this. Um, and he's completely dissembling. I mean, if you know anything about how to detect deception, it's, it's jumping off the screen at you.

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He's not answering the direct questions. He's wiggling. He's his body language, all of it, which was not detected, but here's sat nine.

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Watching that now does what? I know you don't want to spend a lot of time on him, which I'm fine with, but it's got to be very striking.

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just for people listening at home. 1-800-799-SAFE. I do want to get to this next thing. So the cops in this exchange do start talking about how partners wind up murdered. I mean, it's really incredible, but they decide that Brian is the one who was the victim, that Gabby was the primary aggressor. He laughs. I'm going to play SOT 10 and SOT 11 back to back. Let's watch.

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Brian Stewart, you're the attorney. As you hear, it's incredible what we see there because you see the cop is right on. He's got it exactly right. Women will defend and then they'll wind up murdered. But at the end, he completely turns it to he's the victim. And he dismisses the whole thing as a quote, a little slap fight.

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And I think the reason he did that is because he thinks Gabby's the only one who really slapped anyone, notwithstanding her bruised and battered face. What do you make of that?

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They did. It's gripping. And the way it unfolds is so gripping because you really get to know Gabby. And you can tell that the family's participated. People who loved her are participating and helping us see her and understand her in a way we didn't from just the news clips or like the little snippets from her van vlogging, you know, stint provided.

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Can I just ask you, so my own take on it is, the cop was saying that, I don't think that this is going to turn lethal, because he was thinking about Gabby as the abuser. It seemed to me, he was like, she's the one to blame. I don't think she's going to kill him. And which is just further evidence to me of how this thing got off the rails. He had it wrong.

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No clue what's happening there, but we'll dive into it. But we are going to start with a much more serious story and one that's really important. If you've got a daughter in particular, this is important. This story gripped the entire world a few years ago, the disappearance of Gabby Petito. She vanished while on a cross-country van journey with her boyfriend, Brian.

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His foundational assumptions were all wrong. And I will tell you, my own take watching it is, It gets very irritating because everyone there is kind of dismissing her as this hysteric. You know, the cops on scene, Brian's kind of laid back laughing like, oh, you know, she's hysterical. And then Gabby is the only one blaming herself. No one there is really probing whether Brian is to blame.

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Like that to me is the real problem here, Brian. I don't know how how do we train cops to get past that when everyone both of the perpetrators are blaming the woman and the cops here seem to have a natural inclination that women are hysterical. And really, obviously, she's the emotional problem.

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Right. This is like I think most cops are coming to this thinking about themselves. Like I would never hit my wife. I would. Obviously, this isn't even like a tool in my brain that I can go to as a possibility here.

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But of course, you're dealing with all sorts of people out there when you pull a car over who are not cops, who are not trained in protecting other people and who are in potential cases, in impossible cases, actual bad guys. Here are some of the questions from the lethality assessment for our audience. Has he or she ever used a weapon against you or threatened you with a weapon?

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Has he or she threatened to kill you or your children? Do you think he or she might try to kill you? Do they have a gun? Can they get one easily? Have they ever tried to choke you? Are they violently or constantly jealous? Or does he or she control most of your daily activities? Have you left him or her? or separated after living together or being married? Are they unemployed?

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So thank you for cooperating because I just feel like it's filled out the Gabby picture so much more robustly. It's amazing to me. Let me just kick it off with this. So, so Joe, you're Gabby's dad, Tara, you were her step-mom and you, but you and your ex Gabby's mom, her biological mom, Joe seem like you're good. Like you seem pretty close and, and her husband too, who seems as invested.

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Have they ever tried to kill themselves? Do you have a child that is not your partners? Do they ever spy on you or leave you threatening messages? So these are all great questions. And you guys want this lethality assessment done in as many instances as possible. But in the context of doing all this, you have a wrongful death lawsuit against that police department in Moab, Utah.

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And they have defended it by citing this governmental immunity act, which basically is a state decision not to allow itself to be subjected to these kinds of claims because it would cost the taxpayers ultimately. And that's on its way up, Brian, to the Utah Supreme Court, as I understand it.

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So you have obtained a settlement from Brian Laundrie's parents already, correct, Brian?

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Just your participation in this documentary, you guys, I have to tell you, I have a 13-year-old, almost 14-year-old daughter, and I'm going to have her watch this. I'm going to watch this with her and point out red flags, moments where her own behavior... Her own her own guides should be up. Her guards should be up. God forbid this were ever happening to her.

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And I'm sure there are millions of moms and dads across the country who will do the same thing. I know it doesn't justify or really make anything better, but at least I think Gabby would be glad to know she had some sort of a legacy that includes protecting other girls and women.

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I was going to say to your point about it doesn't discriminate against class. One of the other big hits on Netflix these days is the, the newest take on the OJ Simpson case. And it's excellent. It's very well done. But of course she died from domestic violence. She was killed by her abuser and they were as rich as you can get in America.

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Have you guys, have you learned anything? Anything in your studies, really, what's been going on these past few years for you about what causes a man to become an abuser or a woman, but what causes one to become an abuser? Do we know the answer to that?

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Yeah, that's right. Well, one of the things you notice in watching the documentary, getting to know your family well, by the way, Brian, welcome to you as well. Sorry to leave you over there on the side. Appreciate you being here.

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But part of what you said is really relevant here and taking accountability for your own wrongdoing is obviously a very important piece of what we were supposed to be teaching our children. And I have to say, just to round it out, that brings me back to burn after reading. the letter that Brian Landry's mother, Roberta, wrote to him. We're unsure, I guess, of the date of this.

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There's a lot of speculation she wrote this after he got back from the trip before Gabby's remains were found, though I don't think we've ever specified exactly when it was written. And to the audience, since I told you I'd come back to it, she writes as follows, just in part, I just want you to remember I'll always love you, and I know you'll always love me. You are my boy.

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Nothing will make me stop loving you. Nothing will or could ever divide us. No matter what we do or where we go or what we say, we will always love each other. If you're in jail, I will bake a cake with a file in it. If you need to dispose of a body, I will show up with a shovel and garbage bags and goes on and then ends with nothing can separate us.

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Not hatred, not hunger, not homelessness, not threats, not even sin, not the thinkable or unthinkable can get between us. Not time, not miles and miles and miles. Now she claimed that it was written before his trip with Gabby. but we all have our doubts about whether that's true, but just the, I know it's easy for me to say is thank God.

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One of the things that you see, at least this is what I gleaned, is that Gabby came from a very loving family. And it explains this effervescence about this young woman. That's the only word that came to mind. Just effervescent. You know, the million-dollar smile and her positive energy and her sweetness, her love of nature and of life. And I can't use any of those words about Brian.

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My kids are young and have not committed any sins like this whatsoever, but it does. I would like to believe that God forbid one of my children made a

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a horrendous mistake like this a horrendous decision like this my first instinct would be to help them take responsibility for it and try to find redemption and now to do the next best right thing now to do the next right thing what what what what do you guys wish roberta and forgive me i can't remember her husband's name had done in the moments when when brian returned to them chris

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Right. Right. Oh, listen, you guys, I admire your strength and your commitment to trying to make some silver lining come out of this tragedy. I'm totally with you. All the best to you. Good luck in the battles ahead. And please let us know if we can be of any additional help.

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I'm trying to remember, but I definitely did choose them. Yeah, Maryland. Because my method is I choose the teams that I have some connection to, unless I have no connection to either, in which case I go with the odds. But I have a connection to GCU, thanks to that wonderful university being an advertiser on our show. And I hope you give them the same benefit of the doubt in making your choices.

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The different Brian, Brian Laundrie. He seemed like a very dark person right from the start. And the Netflix documentary shows some of his art, which also is very dark as opposed to hers. She was a great artist, which is beautiful. Hers is stunningly beautiful. His is dark with like disturbing scenes.

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Now we turn to some cultural news. Disney's long-awaited Snow White set to hit theaters tomorrow, and the controversial star of it is working to rehab her image big time after spending the last few years bashing the classic film and Snow White. Plus... Hilaria Baldwin. Hello, Hillary. We know you're from a Boston suburb, not Spain. In a wild red carpet video with her husband, Alec.

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Have you seen the video? It's very strange. And Dylan Mulvaney's back. We're going to get to it all with our culture panel. Not to mention, wait until you found out what Meghan Markle just did. Our panel today, Link Lauren, influencer and former senior advisor to RFK Jr., and Christian Toto, host of the Hollywood in Toto podcast. Guys, welcome back to the show. Great to have you.

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Totally. You should ask your friend. Say, is there any way I can say hi? And he's so great about that kind of thing. Yeah, 100%. That has to happen. I'm going to be checking your timeline all day. Well, I'm also going back tomorrow. So if I don't get it today, you're going back tomorrow. Is that what you said?

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You're basically, you've spent more time there than Melania. That's what you're telling me.

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No, I won't. You're right. I take it back. I take it all back. All right, let's start at something far less controversial, which is Snow White. So I think it's fair to say that no one on the right side of America can stand the star of this movie.

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And yet, Christian, you've seen the movie and it appears that the filmmakers coddled together enough salvageable material to make the movie itself quite nice.

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And I wonder to you, Joe and Tara, whether when you met him, they'd been together a couple of years. You saw any of that prior?

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That is totally uplifting and the right way to be woke link when you actually canceled the roles for the marginalized population because just putting them on screen is somehow racist.

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It's a good idea. You know, it's funny. I went to see My Fair Lady at Lincoln Center several years ago. My kids were young. And, you know, that's, of course, about Eliza Doolittle and Henry Higgins, the professor who tries to make her into an upper crust lady or fool people into thinking she is in any event. And...

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They ended it in the actual film version and they end it together, like the two of them develop a romance and she stays with him. And in the Lincoln Theater, New York City version, no, she leaves him, of course, because you can't. He is kind of a prick, but I'm sorry, the story is what it is. Like you say, come up with your own stories. Go ahead, Christian.

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This is the same. It'll be easy for her because of the snow. This is the same woman who posted on Instagram after the election. I find myself speechless in the midst of this. Another four years of hatred. Learning, leaning us toward a world I do not want to live in. Leaning us toward a world that will be hard to raise my daughter in. P.S. There's no daughter.

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Leaning us toward a world that will force her to have a baby she doesn't want. There's no daughter and there's no daughter's baby. Leaning us toward a world that is fearful. This law should not have been, and it certainly should not have been by so many votes. I echo Ethel Kane's statement more than anything. May Trump supporters and Trump voters and Trump himself never know peace.

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Then she discusses the deep, deep sickness in this country. There is no help, no counsel in any of them. And she also attacked Twitter and Elon and finished it all with, fuck Donald Trump. So it's one of the reasons why she's not like the ideal choice for the lead role in Sweet Snow White and why many people are still not to mention all the terrible things she said about including.

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Well, let me just play the one of the ones that got her in trouble when she ripped on Snow White back in 2022, sought 38.

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Most of the women saying like, I'm putting on the chastity belt. It's like, you're good.

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And now she's trying to reinvent herself because there's been so much blowback. And you can only imagine the studio calls about this woman behind the scene like, oh, my God, we're two hundred and forty two million dollars in. And our lead actress hates our film. Our actors, our storyline. There's rumors that she and Gal Gadot don't get along either because one's pro-Palestinian, one is pro-Israel.

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It's just a total nightmare for the studios. So now she's trying to sell like, oh, I love Snow White. I love everything about the whole story. Here she is more recently trying to change the messaging. This is actually Wednesday, 39A. Louder, ready?

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No, the reason they knew who she was because that took place at Walt Disney World. And undeniably, those those children had just exited from the what's it called? The Cinderella shop where you can get your child a little dress and they've got trannies in there. They've got a bunch of men.

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with beards wearing princess dresses trying to costume up our children so they were probably like oh my god an actual pretty woman yes closest thing to a disney prison princess i'm ever gonna find a disney world i'm sorry but i don't really care what happens with this movie i really hope her career is pretty much over i'd be thrilled to see that i can't imagine i mean christian you tell me but is is she not seen as box office poison now because of all of her antics

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Well, you saw what she said to Allure magazine when she was promoting Snow White just this week. She kind of ripped on Steven Spielberg, not directly or by name, but clearly it was about him and his team in that movie West Side Story, where she said she claims that the white executives on that movie made her prove her Latina heritage.

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there's confusion because I don't have a single ounce of Latin in my name. When I was running for, in the running for Maria in West Side Story, they kept calling to ask if I was legit. I remember thinking, do you want me to bring in my abuelita? I will. I'll bring her in the studio if you want to meet her.

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Zegler expresses some bemusement at, quote, having a bunch of white executives have you prove your identity to them. Now, I don't care what they say like on camera or to magazines, behind the scenes, you guys know as well as I do that those executives like Spielberg are looking at that saying, Rachel Zegler can F right off.

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Yes, it's like those snot nosed Harry Potter stars who never miss an opportunity to stab J.K. Rowling for they think being a bigot. I completely disagree. Of course, she's just standing up for women's rights. OK, so that's that. But you make a nice transition for us. Link to Alec Baldwin. What in God's green earth is going on between those two? So they go.

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I don't know what this event was that they appeared on the red carpet to discuss it. Was it like some award ceremony involving their their reality show? But that they show up. Planet Hollywood. OK, they're at Planet Hollywood, but they're speaking on the red carpet. And these clips have gone totally viral because she's a nasty person to him. I mean, it's there's trouble in paradise.

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It's true. At least Meghan Markle still has Harry's royal status, or at least kind of royal status. She's got that to hold on to. But this guy, it's like, you're right. His fortune's dwindling. He's not really going to be a major movie star anymore. She missed the peak Alec Baldwin, which was clearly Hunt for Red October. And she stuck with the leftovers here, who killed a woman.

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And like you say, he's now persona non grata. But that like it happened over and over in that one clip, you know, he said, you're so beautiful. And she's like, no, no. And actually, there's another one kind of like that. Yeah. Did we just play this in SOT 28? SOT 28? No, no, no. This is another. This is another piece of the same exchange, SOT 28.

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As most people now know, Gabby met a devastating end. She was murdered by Brian. This week, Gabby would have turned 26 years old. Her family continues to celebrate her life and memory with their mission to help other victims of domestic abuse. As a new Netflix documentary with which the family cooperated has put a spotlight on the story again. And there's been a lot of follow-up.

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When you look at the van life vlog that Gabby and Brian were doing, you know, going to travel cross country and go to the great national parks and give us all a window into what that would be like this tiny, tiny little van. Um, it's only in retrospect now that we know what happened that to me, one of the things that jumped out in the Netflix documentary was, um,

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So that's what he said after she was saying all the nasty things about him, including this one, which I forgot to play, SOT26.

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She was still doing her little Spanish accent, wasn't she? I'm talking, you're not talking. You're not talking, we're not talking. We know you're from a tony suburb of Boston and went to a ritzy private girl school for some, probably 50 grand a year at this point. It's ridiculous how she continues to perpetuate this fraud on us. Okay, this is not, I'm not done.

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They were asked whether they're going to have a season two of their reality show. Who's watching the reality show? Okay. And here's a bit of him speaking to that standby. I don't know if this is during the interview. Hold on. Let me ask my team. Yeah. Okay. It is. Saw 27 still.

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Just ask the people who brought the gun lawsuit against him. You know, he just got charges dropped, you know, notwithstanding like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I never pulled a trigger. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I never. And she's out there like, you can't believe a word he says. He lies. And it ends with him begging her for a pat on the head.

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Well, you're an eyewitness to this, right? Link, I saw a post that you made on X. Yes.

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That whole thing now seems like control and isolation on his part. No wonder he wanted this, Joe. Right now that you know what you know, do you have a different view of the whole purpose, at least on his part, in doing it?

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Or maybe it's because his very nasty wife can't stand him. I would avoid that house too. She's like a dominatrix or something. I don't mean, maybe that's what's going on. I there's something, but yeah, you know, we spent the first hour talking about DV and I'm not saying there's domestic violence situation, but like it can happen to men, not for nothing, but it can happen to men. And, uh,

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I don't know what's happening there, but she, she does not love him. That's what I saw. I mean, I've been interrupted by my husband before and I've interrupted him before. And, you know, you always handle that with like a joke, you know, like, I don't know. I don't know exactly what I'd say, but I, I probably just let it pass. I wouldn't embarrass him on camera.

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I know, on the red carpet. Exactly. Well, then don't have dinner with Doug Brunt because if he doesn't like you, he will actually turn his chair. He will turn and start looking over here. And the dinner is all happening here. And now I've just got to do such heavy lifting. Like, my God, Duggar, you left me. What do you mean? He's like, I... I couldn't.

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He does not have it in him to like feign the insincerity with somebody he doesn't like, which I have to say is an important social skill in life. You have to have this. He just won't. He's like, no, I'm out. Right.

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Well, all right, let me take you to the background a little bit because their reality show, The Baldwins, it airs on TLC. And here's a little bit our producers found of him talking on the show. Watch, it's hot 29.

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Oh my God. So first of all, why is his hair like down, like the bangs in the front, like sort of a, I don't know, a character from like a Coen brothers movie. And once again, there she is in the background with her fake Spanish accent, right? Like, We have to, we cannot make it now. Like what she's doing. Even if you saw him on late night TV, like my wife, she's from Spain.

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I mean, at this point you really have to wonder whether they've convinced themselves. She's Spanish. She's Hillary from Boston, but that's how they live. Right. She's got the enormous bathroom that you could probably fit your average New York city apartment into Alex walking around with his weird Coen brothers hair and his enormous belly, like listless. That's what I, how I would describe that.

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on how big a star you are and how hot you are on whether you will get canceled as a Hollywood actor. Right? I do think there are these intangibles that get factored in as to whether they kick you out. Like Kevin Spacey, he wasn't hot enough. Alec Baldwin, he doesn't... At his peak, he was quite dreamy. And I do believe that's kind of what Ilaria thought she was marrying.

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And now it's a different story. I mean, she said herself that he's walking around with PTSD after the whole shooting on the Rusk set. And so that's probably true. I hope somebody gets him the help he needs. So I think the three of us might need to drive by in a flower van to grab him. get him to greener pastures. Okay. Okay. Um, moving on Dylan Mulvaney back in the news. I'm sorry, audience.

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I'm sorry, but we're just going to spend a minute on Dylan Mulvaney who has now not only dropped a memoir, but has opened up a podcast and, um, it's called the Dylan hour. I'm sure you're all writing it down and good to going to subscribe now, but, uh, here is his opening song, uh,

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By the way, Dylan Mulvaney, for those of you who don't know, is a man pretending to be a woman and making a living off of describing his hundred days of girlhood and now his days of womanhood. And he is not a woman or a girl. He is a man. Here is the opening song for his pod.

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And you guys, I'm the one who did it to you. Christian, will you be writing that one up soon? And a review, same as Snow White?

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You know, Link, I'll tell you something. Just because I knew you guys were going to be coming on, we'd be talking about this person. I actually downloaded his audio book. I didn't make it through the first chapter, but I did try. And what I gleaned off of what I heard was... this is, this is just a gay boy.

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This, he, he was a gay boy who knew he was gay when he was very young and his family knew he was gay and he became a theater kid and he was starring on like off Broadway type productions and a book of Mormon and like doing okay. Not, not doing too poorly, but, And I don't know how it crossed over, but I don't believe this person ever had true gender dysphoria.

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I just think he was a gay man who saw an opportunity to take things next level by playing this new role.

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Now, Dylan went on The View to promote his memoir, again, which I believe he launched on the International Day of Women. Like, OK. So he goes on The View to promote his book. And they did raise with him the Bud Light controversy, where Bud Light agreed to put his face on a can and sent him the can as a promotional thing. I mean... To be perfectly honest, this is all on Bud Light.

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That particular incident is way more a Bud Light problem than it is a Dylan Mulvaney problem. But Bud Light should have foreseen what was going to happen to Dylan as a result of it. And look, he's out there trying to make money off of his image of women and girls, which is really offensive. So I really have no empathy for the mix he found himself in. But...

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It was an overwhelming backlash and he was asked about it. Here's how that went in Sat 21 on CBS.

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So, and there was a question about whether Dylan needed to be institutionalized, and Dylan said, I don't want to be institutionalized because people will just use that against me. But I have to tell you, I really think this is more a revelation, Christian, of the unwellness of this person.

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Because there are a lot of people who go through massive social media backlash, a lot of people who don't think about taking their own lives, who don't need to be institutionalized, and not just hard, you know, cynical mofos like yours truly. But you know, a lot of people have backlash.

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If the people listening to this show have had it on in their lives, what is a massive scale where people have turned on them and try to cancel them on Facebook because of their politics, what have you, I just know from my audience, this has happened to a lot of people, but Dylan revealing that I think it reveals more than he means to.

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So, like, I've asked myself, what is it about this particular person that I find so offensive? Because I will say, Link, I appreciate his sunny affect and how smiley he is and his signature sign-off is love ya. And he doesn't seem to be a hateful person, like, necessarily. Right.

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What I'm trying to say is his attitude is generally upbeat when you see him in a way that I can see it being appealing to younger people. Like, oh, he's so nice. But the whole caricature of women that he's doing is deeply offensive, even though he's saying love ya at the end of it. And it's almost regressive. I feel like he's setting us back decades with this portrayal of what we are.

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And then you start talking about him... giving out tampons and walking around with tampons it's like is there nothing about actual womanhood that is sacred to you you have to make a joke or like a a marketable shtick out of every part of what being a woman is actually like and then my blood starts to boil again around this guy

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So I have no, what did you think was going to happen? It's true. He, he courted public attention and comments on whatever he did. And he crossed a line. Look, there was blowback against him in the early days too, because he was mocking us with those ridiculous quote days of girlhood, but it didn't get, you know, fever pitch until the Bud Light thing, which he wanted, he courted.

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It's like, you, you have to take the bad with the good. That's what Dylan doesn't understand. It's what Meghan Markle doesn't understand. It's like Michelle Obama. If you're going to put yourself out there, it's not going to all be loving and supportive and wonderful. Like... Man up. And I mean that to all three of them. Man up.

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It is no different than having a severe anorexic all over the Internet being like, try it. Just stop eating or put your fingers down your throat. You can just get rid of that big dinner and you can be skinny like me. Go ahead, Christian. Right.

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I know. It's really kind of infuriating. And now, of course, he's like a big star and he's working it for all it's worth. You mentioned he's actually a nasty person behind the scenes. Here is an exchange from his first episode of his show where he's making his father practice speaking on the red carpet. Watch.

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I don't know, guys. I don't. Again, I'm uncomfortable. It didn't seem real to me. There were quite a few comments in the whole exchange.

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Well, but the dad is totally misleading people, too, because he was asked, what do you do, you know, when your child, you know, comes out as trans? And here's what he said. Well, Dylan and he talked about it. Listen, here's 18.

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Yeah. Well, you can see that and you do get to see some great sites of beauty in those videos than pictures that are in the piece. It just occurred to me that that's an abuser's perfect solution. You know, I believe you that Gabby wanted to do it, not knowing that she was engaged to a domestic violence perpetrator.

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Oh, really? Okay. Well, if your right is to participate in girls' sports, it's a no. The dad's a no for me. But that's really interesting, right? Because he's like, you just embrace it. And by the way, you guys know better than anybody, a five or six-year-old boy saying, I think God made a mistake and put a girl in a boy's body. The overwhelming odds are he's talking about his sexuality.

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He's realizing that in this society... You know, boys are supposed to date girls. Boys are supposed to be attracted to girls. You're supposed to want to kiss girls. And this little boy was clearly realizing that wasn't for him. That's not a gender flag. It's just ridiculous. Now you have these two people out there very publicly saying embrace trans ideology at age five.

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Yeah. Then don't put him out there. I mean, clearly there's a, there's a reason Dylan wound up the way Dylan is, but the whole thing is very sus to me. And the issue of girl sports is in the news every day. He doesn't speak out the way Caitlin does about it at all. And there was just another one today. Hold on a second.

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It's in Portland, in Portland, Oregon, where this week, a male, an 11th grader, one gold in the girls, 400 meter varsity race. His name is Aiden Ada Gallagher. Watch this guy crush. Look at this. He's about two miles ahead of the girls who are behind him. They have clearly zero shot of catching up with him. And he's super thrilled that his post-pubescent male body beat...

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the girls who are miles behind him. This is at the McDaniel high school. He set a season record guys after finishing, uh, over seven seconds ahead of his female competitors. He was booed as he did it, by the way. Um, In the 200-meter and the 400-meter, both of those, he finished second place.

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If he'd been running in the men's meet, he would have finished 61st out of 65 and 46th out of 58th, respectively. He has not done hormone replacement therapy, at least as of April 2024. So he's got all of his male advantage. And that's why even in Portland, Oregon, they're booing, which, I mean, I take some comfort from the fact that they're booing there. Christian?

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But I'm sure given what I heard from one of Gabby's best friends in the Netflix documentary, forgive me, I don't remember her name. She's got the tats. She's blonde.

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We mentioned Meghan Markle earlier, and we do have Meghan Markle news. I know you're excited, Link. Meghan Markle, as you know, she's launched her little show, whatever, Ever After, and whatever it's called. I don't remember what it's called. With love. And as ever, as ever. Okay, whatever. Whatever. That's what I'm calling her show.

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It's terrible. It's gotten totally panned. And then she announced, oh, I've gotten the second season, which is a lie. And they've already shot all the episodes.

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So as you guys know, what that means is they shot all these episodes at the same time and intended on two seasons from the start, but decided to hold the announcement of season two until she started to get panned on season one to try to change the narrative to this is a success. Because if this were a true renewal, she would not have shot all the episodes yet. Like, that's...

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We love Rose. OK, Rose. She talked in the Netflix piece about how she felt he was starting to isolate Gabby. Like when she and Gabby were spending too much time together, Gabby was leaning too much on her friend or even potentially her parents. he started to get upset and started to want to isolate her, which is just exactly on brand for an abuser.

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They're not saying we're going to pour more money into this. They already shot everything. Anyway, so there's some podcaster out there who said something about Megan, like, I'm worried you're going to get backlash the way Blake Lively's gotten backlash. And I guess Megan decided to write this girl a note. And the podcaster, whose name is Amanda Hirsch, posted the note that Megan Markle sent her.

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And you guys are not going to believe. Look at this. Look at this. at the stationery. Can you see that? It's got her weird calligraphy. I'm fancy writing. Look at the signature at the top, the little imprint, the emblem. It's a huge M. Can you see what's on top of it? Link? A crown, a tiara.

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So last question for you on the, on this link, I saw you did a post the other day about how Michelle Obama's lame podcast and Meghan Markle's lame show. And there was one other that you said, they're all tanking. And for good reason. So why? And who's the third?

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What a shock that the people are not tuning in. You're so right, though, Chris. It's so relatable. Her little crown and her calligraphy note to this woman. OK, which is obviously just an attempt at PR. Guys, a pleasure. Thank you so much.

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And we're going to be back tomorrow with a special look at the latest on the Brian Kohlberger case in Idaho with Howard Bloom, who's been covering this extensively. As you know, we will see you then. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear. It's time we all started taking better care of our health, and that includes working out and lifting weights.

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So you can see how Gabby's innocence about traveling the country and, you know, hitting the road together would have been right up his alley. Like he, he gets her away from you guys. It gets her away from her mom and Jim. He gets her away from Rose and her other friends and And it's this perfect formula for, you know, the storm that was coming. What do you guys make of that?

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We're going to get into the specifics about the signs to look for and all that. Let me just tee it up and I'll go to you, Tara, in one second. Here is Rose from the Netflix documentary.

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And this, one of the interesting things they did in the documentary was to not have an actress voice over Gabby's journal entries, but to use AI to recreate her voice, which is really, that must be somewhat chilling and maybe weirdly comforting to,

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on this critical traffic stop, the police intervening after they received a 911 call suggesting a witness had seen Brian hit Gabby. The police pulled over the van as a result of that 911 call. And what happened next had the potential, the potential to save Gabby Petito, but it didn't.

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For you guys, in a way, to hear, I'll ask you about it, but let me just play this soundbite where it's a Gabby voice AI recreation of one of her journal entries, and the clip features her friend Rose.

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When you see the increase and you hear that messaging, please stop crying. And the documentary shows a lot of those. Like there were numerous messages by Gabby or by him, Brian, acknowledging his tears and how upset he was and how dark he was and Gabby blaming herself. And even when she writes about how he loved her, There are statements like, I don't deserve his love.

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You know, like he's this sort of vaunted guy who she's so lucky to have. Meanwhile, I feel like, I mean, you guys probably know much more about it at this point, but to me, the whole thing feels like an emotional manipulation by him of her.

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Axios reporting Wednesday, more calls to resign could follow. One Democrat rep saying, quote, I think there are some already there, but just haven't been asked directly or avoided the question. Senator Schumer, who earlier this week canceled his book tour, citing alleged security concerns, instead making the media rounds defending his leadership position.

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A senior House Democrat telling Axios, quote, his popularity is hovering somewhere between Elon Musk and the Ebola virus. Some House members reportedly urging New York Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez to launch a primary bid against Senator Schumer in 2028. Not all House Dems fully soured on Schumer, however.

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Wisconsin Congressman Mark Pocan saying anger toward the minority leader is, quote, a bit of an inside the beltway conversation. Mr. Pocan saying his constituents understand Mr. Schumer's position. And that'll do it for your AM Update. I'm Megyn Kelly.

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Attorney General Pam Bondi releasing a statement on Tuesday reading in part, quote, The DOJ has already charged several perpetrators with that meaning terror in mind, including in cases that involve charges with five year mandatory minimum sentences.

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Since Doge, unofficially headed by Elon Musk, began slashing waste, fraud and abuse, the car company also owned by Musk, now the target of waves of vandalism. Musk responding to the attacks on Tuesday night.

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And so... High-profile Democrats egg on anti-Tesla behavior as acts of vandalism against the electric car company sweep the nation. The battle to deport Columbia University student agitator Mahmoud Khalil finds a venue for its court fight.

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On Tuesday in Las Vegas, at least five vehicles destroyed by fire with at least three rounds fired at a Tesla store. The assailant spray painting the word resist in red across the storefront. Last month, a transgender activist, Lucy Grace Nelson, a biological male, arrested on charges of malicious destruction of property.

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Nelson accused of throwing Molotov cocktails at vehicles at a Colorado Tesla dealership and spray painting Nazi cars on the building. Similar attacks reported across at least 10 states and in other countries like England and Germany. The acts of vandalism sarcastically condemned by ABC late night host Jimmy Kimmel.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Thursday, March 20th, 2025, and this is your AM Update.

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And so a group called DogeQuest publishing a website earlier this week showing not just the locations of dealerships and charging stations, but also exposing personal information of Tesla owners. The site stating at DogeQuest, we believe in empowering creative expressions of protest that you can execute from the comfort of your own home.

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Users are encouraged to visit a self-described anarchist website providing guidance on evading detection online. Tesla owners whose personal information is posted to DogeQuest can request removal, but only with proof their vehicle has been sold. Progressive activists without a stomach for online harassment or vandalism are encouraged to rally outside of Tesla facilities.

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Many of the events coordinated on the progressive platform ActionNetwork.org, the Tesla takedown page of the site encouraging users to, quote, sell your Teslas, dump your stock, join the picket line. Another reading, quote, we're tanking Tesla's stock price to stop Musk. Tesla stock prices hovering in the low to mid 200s this week, about a 50% drop from the high in December.

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Former Democratic vice presidential candidate Tim Walz supporting the anti-Tesla campaign at a recent town hall event.

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Tesla employs more than 120,000 Americans and is one of the most valuable companies in the world, even with the recent drop in stock price. The Manhattan federal judge overseeing the deportation case of Mahmoud Khalil, the former Columbia University agitator, ordering the case moved to New Jersey. Mr. Khalil arrested nearly two weeks ago outside his New York home by Homeland Security agents.

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Secretary of State Marco Rubio revoking Mr. Khalil's green card, retaliating against his participation in a student group which reportedly sympathizes with Hamas, a U.S.-designated terror organization.

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A mom files a civil rights complaint on behalf of her 13-year-old daughter, allegedly forced to change in front of a biological male at school. And Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer is in hot water. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update. Aren't you tired of the corporate media prioritizing certain narratives over the facts?

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Columbia University Apartheid Divest, a pro-Palestinian group, staged a takeover of Columbia's Hamilton Hall last year, effectively holding two maintenance workers hostage for a time, breaking windows, damaging school property, and disrupting campus life, particularly for Jewish students.

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The group presented a long list of demands, chiefly Colombia's divestment from all Israeli-linked companies or else. Ultimately, NYPD officers called in, arresting around 300 people.

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While there's no evidence Mr. Khalil participated in that takeover, he was involved in the creation of a Gaza Solidarity encampment on Colombia's campus and acted as the lead negotiator for these groups, attempting to secure their demands with Colombia faculty. Mr. Khalil has been seen on video referring to the October 7th Hamas terror attack in Israel as, quote, armed resistance.

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Secretary of State Rubio determining Mr. Khalil's activity, quote, would have serious adverse foreign policy consequences for the United States, which under U.S. law is all that's needed to deport a green card holder. Donna Lieberman, attorney for Mr. Khalil on CNN, framing the arrest as a violation of her client's First Amendment freedom and right to due process.

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On Wednesday, Mr. Khalil pending a letter from his detention center reading in part, quote, My arrest was a direct consequence of exercising my right to free speech as I advocated for a free Palestine. The Trump administration is targeting me as part of a broader strategy to suppress dissent. He also said he's being deported due to, quote, racism. U.S.

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District Judge Jesse Fuhrman writing in his order, quote, a person challenging his detention is required to file that petition in the federal district where he is detained at the time of filing. Mr. Khalil's lawyers wanted this case to be heard in the very liberal Southern District of New York, where it was as of yesterday. Prosecutors asked for a federal venue in Louisiana, much more conservative.

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The court finding a middle ground for venue, New Jersey. Khalil was held at a New Jersey detention center at the time his lawyer filed the petition. His next court date is March 27th. Coming up, the Trump administration taking more action over allowing males to participate in female sports divisions. Growing calls from House Democrats demanding Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer step down.

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The Trump administration announcing a suspension of about $175 million in federal funds for the Ivy League's University of Pennsylvania. UPenn was the home to Leah Thomas, who in 2022 became the first biological male to win a D1 title in a women's division, swimming the 500-yard freestyle. He had been a lackluster swimmer in the men's league.

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President Trump's executive order protecting women's sports bars biological males from competing in female athletic leagues or from using women's facilities. The order directs federal agencies to withhold funding from any school violating the policy, reinforcing Title IX protections for women. A UPenn spokesperson responding to the freeze saying, we have been in the past and remain today

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in full compliance with the regulations that apply to not only Penn, but all of our NCAA and Ivy League peer institutions. Really?

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An unnamed senior White House official telling CBS Philadelphia the funding cut will come from money the Department of Defense and Health and Human Services had been funneling to UPenn, which received some $1 billion in total federal funding last year, according to the Daily Pennsylvanian, a student newspaper.

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So this is not a penalty resulting from the Department of Education's probe under Title IX. That investigation appears to be ongoing. The White House's rapid response account posting the story along with the caption, promises made, promises kept.

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And speaking of the Department of Health and Human Services, its civil rights office earlier this week finding the Maine Department of Education, the Maine Principals Association, and Greeley High School in violation of Title IX.

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A biological male representing Greeley High School placed first in a state pole vaulting championship on February 17th, a week and a half after President Trump signed the Keeping Men Out of Women's Sports Executive Order. The biologically male student in question beat the second place girl by more than six inches.

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President Trump putting a national spotlight on the story at a governor's luncheon just days later, directly calling out Maine Governor Janet Mills.

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HHS's civil rights office allowing the Maine Department of Education, the Maine Principals Association and Greeley High School 10 days to comply with President Trump's executive order or risk referral to the DOJ. A mother in Deerfield, Illinois, speaking out against her child's school for alleged Title IX violations as well.

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Nicole Georges alleges her 13-year-old daughter witnessed a biological male using the female locker room at her middle school. Ms. Georges says her daughter complained to school administrators and was told the student was allowed to use the female facilities because he now identifies as female. Ms. Georges describing what allegedly happened next at a recent school board meeting.

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If that is true, the school may have committed a crime. Ms. Georges stating that the principal offered to switch her daughter into a new P.E. class, which was rejected. Ms. Georges' remarks at the school board met with boos from local activists. The next speaker in favor of allowing trans students in female spaces making a veiled threat against the school board.

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Another woman in favor of forcing girls to change in front of biological boys, Jess Holzman, said research shows that middle school girls, quote, do better when boys are allowed to watch them undress in school locker rooms, reports the Lake County Gazette. Ms.

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Holzman describes herself as a queer, non-binary, consensually non-monogamous, intersectional feminist, anti-racist, activist, educator, and scholar. Okay. Ms. Georges filed a civil rights complaint with the DOJ on behalf of her minor daughter. Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer facing growing calls to step down from his fellow Democrats in the House. So far, not the Senate.

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Congressional Democrats outraged with Senator Schumer's handling of the continuing resolution last week. Mr. Schumer voting to advance the GOP bill to the floor, arguing a bad bill is worse than what he thinks Elon Musk and Doge could do during a government shutdown.

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Right now, you can get 40% off their Vantage plan, knocking the price down to just five bucks a month. Go to groundnews.com slash Megan. That's G-R-O-U-N-D news.com slash Megan to invest in your ability to think critically about the news. The DOJ investigating increased attacks on Tesla dealerships, charging stations and vehicles as acts of domestic terrorism.

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House Democrats believe Mr. Schumer should have allowed the government to shut down in order to force some concessions from Republicans. House Speaker Emeritus Nancy Pelosi on Tuesday criticizing Mr. Schumer's decision.

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The projected launch date for their return, March 12th. The latest on the It Ends With Us drama, which seems never-ending, Blake Lively amends her complaint against co-star and director Justin Baldoni. In the 163-page document, Lively now alleges that multiple women felt uncomfortable on the set as a result of Baldoni's on-set behavior.

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She contends her claims are corroborated by other witnesses, but the actress is not naming them, allegedly to protect innocent bystanders rather than exposing them to further harm. She claims the witnesses will testify and cooperate with the discovery process. Mr. Baldoni's lawyer, Brian Friedman, who happens to be my own lawyer, dismisses the complaint, saying it lacks evidence.

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Mr. Friedman responding that this complaint is filled with hearsay. by unnamed persons, quote, who are clearly no longer willing to come forward or publicly support her claims. Since documents do not lie and people do, the upcoming depositions of those who initially supported Ms. Lively's false claims and those who are witnesses to her own behavior will be enlightening.

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Mr. Baldoni is countersuing Blake Lively for $400 million in damages. The trial is scheduled for March 2026. And that'll do it for your AM update. Thanks for listening, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. Join me back here later for The Megyn Kelly Show. We are live on SiriusXM Triumph Channel 111 at noon east and on YouTube.com slash Megyn Kelly and all podcast platforms.

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Go to hometitlelock.com, use promo code MEGAN25 to get 25% off your subscription and a free title history report to ensure that you're not already a victim. Protect your home and equity today. hometitlelock.com, promo code MEGAN25. Lori Chavez Doremer, front and center before the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee in her bid to head the Labor Department.

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The nomination ruffled Republican feathers. A former representative from Oregon, Ms. Doremer once co-sponsored a bill protecting the right to organize. The bill was lauded by Democrats for strengthening labor protections and expanding workers' rights.

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Republicans lambasted the bill for its provision overturning right-to-work laws, which make it illegal to require workers to join a union or pay union dues as a condition of employment. These protections exist in 27 states. Republican members of the committee questioned Ms. DeRemer on her past support for some provisions of this proposed law.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Thursday, February 20th, 2025, and this is your AM Update.

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President Trump's choice to head the Labor Department takes center stage on Capitol Hill. Supporters say Labor ally Lori Chavez de Riemer is the latest pick representing a new Republican coalition. But will the Republicans go for it?

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I do not support that portion. That was Kentucky Senator Rand Paul and then Maine Senator Susan Collins. Ms. DeRemer's biggest obstacle, GOP hesitancy. Oklahoma Senator Mark Wayne Mullen tried to soften GOP resistance when introducing Ms. DeRemer prior to her opening remarks.

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The Sean Mr. McMullen is referring to there is Sean O'Brien, president of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters. Senator Mullen and Sean O'Brien, highly unexpected allies, not least of which because of this exchange we saw at a committee hearing back in November 2023, where the two nearly came to blows.

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That was Bernie Sanders there, full-time senator, part-time referee. Sean O'Brien telling Fox News he is ready to go to the mat to get Mr. Reamer confirmed. Overall, the hearing generally lacked many fireworks. Democrats and Republicans both emphasizing the importance of growing apprenticeship training. Mr. Reamer agreed. When you're down to apprenticeship training,

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you're in a good place of seeing your nominee confirmed. Virginia Senator Tim Kaine did lay a bit of a trap for Mr. Reamer at one point.

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Important context there, the Trump administration is not targeting veterans. These are broad cuts designed to lessen the size of government across the board. As Senator Kaine himself points out, the government hires a high number of veterans. Therefore, any broad cuts would naturally affect veterans too, but in no way are they being singled out.

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Senate Democrats also used their time at the hearing to target Elon Musk.

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It seems like Mr. Musk is getting a big payback from Mr. Trump right in the first month of this administration, and that concerns us greatly. Doge's access to federal agencies remains a top issue for Democrats. Elon Musk, derided by Dems as a private citizen rummaging through federal databases for personal gain, a claim that's unsubstantiated.

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Earlier this week, the White House outlined the parameters of Mr. Musk's federal employment status. He is a special government employee serving as a senior advisor to the president. Joe Biden had lots of those too. The filing states, like other senior White House advisors, Mr. Musk has no actual or formal authority to make government decisions himself.

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He can only advise the president and communicate the president's directives. Democratic attorneys general and other left-leaning groups have launched multiple lawsuits aimed at curbing the president's executive authority. One judge even going so far as to demand the White House restore certain web pages at the NIH.

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As skepticism toward the scientific establishment grows... A new chapter begins at HHS. RFKJ takes the helm, vowing to increase transparency.

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As has become custom in these hearings, Democrats repeatedly ask what the nominee would do if asked to violate the law. Ms. Dreamer consistent in her response.

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I will always follow the law and the Constitution. She added she does not believe the president will give her an illegal order. Coming up, RFKJ's first full day as head of HHS and Presidents Trump and Zelensky trade barbs as the U.S. leads peace negotiations on the Ukrainians' behalf.

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As President Trump begins his new administration, one of the top Democrats in Congress aiming to undermine the Trump agenda is Senator Dick Durbin. And according to our sponsor, the Electronic Payments Coalition, Senator Durbin has a new scheme, a government takeover of your credit card.

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Today, Americans have thousands of choices in credit cards, but they say Senator Durbin's plan will result in less competition and less security. And that means more risk for your credit and your identity. Learn more at guardyourcard.com and consider telling your senators to stop Dick Durbin's government takeover of your credit card before it's too late.

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After a highly contentious confirmation process, RFKJ arrives for his first day as head of health and human services. HHS is a massive department overseeing an approximately $1.7 trillion budget with 11 divisions. As head of the department, RFKJ will oversee public health, social services, and medical research.

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He will be a critical figure in developing and implementing the Trump administration's healthcare policies. This is a department with its work cut out for it. From RFKJ's remarks on Tuesday.

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Kennedy referencing studies showing 90% of healthcare spending goes toward treating chronic illness in this country. He says, despite paying two to three times as much for healthcare, Americans are among the world's sickest people. Kennedy says the mission of this department now will be reversing the chronic disease epidemic.

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Elon Musk says he's been given the green light to return the NASA astronauts from space following a month's long extended journey up there. And the latest in the legal drama between Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update. Here's how it works. Here's the really scary part. Credit monitoring will not protect you from this problem.

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The reason for most of the controversy about Kennedy is his history as someone who is unafraid to question the safety of some vaccines. Kennedy's a longtime critic of corporate influence on pharmaceutical companies, too, especially when it comes to research and development.

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The former FDA administrator, Robert Califf, he estimates approximately 70% of clinical trials are self-funded by the very drug companies seeking approval. RFK committed to the employees of his new agency that their mission will be restoring full transparency and respect of the science without preconceived notions. Nothing is going to be off-limits.

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Actor Zachary Levi articulated the feelings of many Americans on The Megyn Kelly Show yesterday.

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Presidents Trump and Zelensky in a war of words as the U.S. lays the groundwork for peace negotiations in Ukraine. Their leader, Volodymyr Zelensky, voicing increasing criticism of the Trump administration.

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All of those sound bites took place within the last week. At a Tuesday press conference at Mar-a-Lago, Mr. Trump returned some of the criticism.

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Democrats have interpreted that comment as President Trump accusing the Ukrainians of starting the war. This is Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer.

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That sentiment repeated across the cable networks. Mr. Zelensky called a He would like to, quote, have more truth with the Trump team because this does not have a positive impact on Ukraine. In those same remarks, he asserted the belief that the U.S. is helping President Putin, quote, come out of years of isolation.

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And yet President Trump's remarks are very much in line with the many previous times he has said this war was not inevitable. Mr. Trump acknowledges the Russians' claims that NATO expansion poses a legitimate threat to their national security. but he also believes in Ukrainian sovereignty.

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In the months leading up to the invasion, there were multiple failed diplomatic efforts by the Biden administration to dial back the crisis. Mr. Trump lays much of the blame on Joe Biden for strategic blunders along the way. National Security Advisor Mike Walz remains adamant that both sides, of course, will have a say in the final outcome. This from an appearance yesterday on Fox News.

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Ukrainian elections were suspended earlier this year. The country has been under martial law since the beginning of the invasion. The White House's rapid response account posting to X yesterday, quote, in America, we hold a presidential election every four years, even during wartime.

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Before President Zelensky decides to lecture the American president again, he should hold an election too, end quote. The president clearly warnings Zelensky, you're on thin ice. President Trump and Elon Musk announced the two astronauts aboard the International Space Station will be brought home in a matter of weeks.

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Originally scheduled for just an eight-day mission, astronauts Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams have been in space since June. Technical issues with their Boeing Starliner led to an indefinite extension of the trip. Don't you hate it when your flight gets canceled? Elon Musk placing blame for the long delay on the Biden administration.

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The astronauts themselves dispute that characterization. Here they were earlier this week with CNN's Anderson Cooper.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and the conclusion to our True Crime Christmas series. Today, we're looking at the Scott Peterson case, which we've covered on the show before, but there is new information this year. It's actually kind of unbelievable.

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Okay. But now, now this is where I'm going to try to defend the defense theory is it's really Scott Peterson's sister-in-law who has been his biggest advocate. She's married to his brother and she's been, I mean, all over this, like white on rice, like to the point where she went to law school and,

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much later, long after he was convicted, not necessarily to try this case for him or to, you know, pursue, but because she was so immersed in the legalities around it. So then they get Innocence Project involved or LA Innocence. So here are some of what they say are the facts that

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suggest he didn't do it, that they should have been able to argue all of this to a jury and that they weren't given full disclosure by the prosecution of what the prosecution had done on some of these leads. All right. I'll give you a couple of them. First of all, There's a neighbor named Diane Jackson who claims she saw three men and a van in the neighborhood at the time Lacey went missing.

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They abducted her. They killed her. They then drove around with her body for some sort of period. And then when the police made clear that Scott Peterson was believed to have been at this harbor, this marina on the day that Lacey went missing, they thought, aha, this is our chance. We're going to dump the body over there so that he will be blamed for this crime.

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So Diane can presumably place a van and three men in the neighborhood when she went missing. Okay, that's a piece that the defense would like to argue. Then there is this guy named Tom Harshman who claims... He saw a pregnant woman being forced into a van, Matt, and called in a tip, but it was never followed up in on. He called back.

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to say, I'm telling you, I saw, I think it was this guy who called back in any event that he had seen this and in this discovery, I'm sorry, in this Peacock channel show called Face to Face with Scott Peterson, where they got Scott Peterson on camera and doing an interview from the jail. Very well done. They have a clip of this guy. Do we have it team? Tom Harshman. All right, we'll drop it in.

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But he sounds a little drunk, to be perfectly honest. His words are kind of slurry, Matt. But he does say he saw a pregnant woman being forced into a van. I mean, those two things alone, you've got to admit, as a defense attorney, you'd like to know about those, and you would certainly be arguing to the jury. Let me tell you what that van did to Lacey Peterson.

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And it does appear like this judge has at least opened up discovery again about for him to start probing that theory more meaningfully. Is that about where things stand?

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That's because the defense would like to say Scott Peterson left the house early that morning to, quote, go fishing. And so if Lacey Peterson was out and about walking around after Scott had left the house, obviously he didn't do it. Keep going, Matt.

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Right. No, a hundred percent. Everybody's like, I saw her here. I saw her there.

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Yeah, it was because the judge on the jury selection said to the jury, if he's found guilty, could you impose a sentence of death potentially? And he said, if you can't, then you can't sit on this case, something like that. And you're not allowed to say that, right?

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This is why Scott Peterson's death sentence was reversed and commuted to life in prison. But now, obviously, they're seeking much, much more than that on team defense. Right.

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Let me keep going with the evidence that Scott and his sister-in-law and his defense team say warrants a retrial or the reopening of this case. Now, there was a man named Xavier Aponte, who I think is a prison guard. who came in with a tip claiming that he heard something that would exonerate. I might be mixing up my, my witnesses. Hold on.

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This one says a tip came in from Xavier Aponte late in the trial that claimed Lacey had confronted the burglars, which could have led to her murder. That's yeah, this is the guy. And the defense claims we were never given this information, even though the police talked to this guy. The prosecutors claim that the statement was recanted.

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But again, this Peacock piece, face to face, has an interview with Xavier where he denies recanting it. It appears that he may have overheard a prison conversation to this effect. And he says, I didn't recant it. But apparently he admits that it was like a rumor.

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I don't know. Like, I understand how you and I are like, oh, come on. But if you're Garagos, right, who was his defense lawyer at trial, you want all of this because now you're like, OK, that is supportive of my theory. There was a van in the neighborhood. We know there was a burglary across the street from Lacey. We have a witness who says they saw three guys in the van.

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And then we have another witness who says he saw a pregnant woman being forced into the van. Now you have this guy who says Lacey confronted the burglars. It's all coming together. You can see a defense lawyer trying to drive a freight train through that in front of a jury that may or may not be gullible or susceptible to to this kind of argument. And then the final piece is her watch.

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Let's just stop before we get to the watch with Xavier Aponte and this alleged claim that Lacey confronted the burglars.

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Because the defense is entitled to everything. It's not just that the prosecution wants them to have it. It's that they have a constitutional right to it.

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So if if if if the investigate the Tory team speaks with some random guy is like, I saw a van take the pregnant lady. And they're like, oh, my Lord. Like, let's say they can. This is hypothetical. They can smell the alcohol on his breath. They ask around about the guy. He's some vagrant, whatever. Did they have to turn that over? Like the things that are easily ruled out?

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And not to help you out, because... Yeah, I'm supposed to be taking the other side. But the other piece of that story that's just so nonsensical is if that's what they wanted to frame him, why would they weigh down the body in the ocean with a bunch of anchors? Why wouldn't they just throw the body on the shore or go out in the middle of the night and dump it overboard so it would float back in?

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Okay. Let's talk about, let's talk about two other things. Cause you mentioned the eyewitnesses in the neighborhood on the timeline. So the, you know, loosely the timeline by the prosecution was that morning by 10 30, she was missing. Yeah. And Scott had left to go to either golfing or the marina, as he later changed his story to, and that's, in fact, where he was.

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There was an issue about the dog, because the dog was found running around in the neighborhood with its leash on. I think you and I believe, and the prosecution argued, like... I believe Scott let the dog out. It was like, this is part of creating his story that somebody got her, somebody abducted her in broad daylight on Christmas Eve. And they're walking around their neighborhood.

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And, um, there was a question about whether, well, like what time the dog was returned by a well-meaning female neighbor who found the dog, knew it was the Peterson's and opened up their gate and put the dog back into the backyard as a good Samaritan. And, um, if it was, uh, early.

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I'm trying to remember how it went down, but basically there's a mailman who is saying that when he dropped off the mail, the dog wasn't there. And he came a little later in the morning. And, um, He always got barked at by the dog. But this day, when he dropped off the mail around 1030, there was no barking. He doesn't believe the dog had been returned to the neighborhood.

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And therefore, Lacey must have been out walking the dog at 1030. This is the defense theory. And therefore, Scott could not have committed this murder because Scott was already gone. The defense wants Scott gone as early in the day as possible and Lacey running into trouble as late in the morning as possible so that Scott couldn't have done it.

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And they want to rely on this mailman as proof the dog had not yet been lost or returned to the backyard.

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Well, and by the way, if your dog's not barking, it could mean your dog has found a bone. Your dog has found something more interesting than the mailman.

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Well, the other thing is, to your point, Matt, when I was a young lawyer myself, I practiced law with this very smart woman. And she told me this amazing story about when she was in law school. At the time, she was a nurse. She wound up pursuing law later in her life. And her teacher came in late one day. Her professor, a law school professor came in late one day, was all huffing and puffing.

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Sorry, I'm so late. There was like crazy incident on the road. Got almost got run off the road, like a road rage situation, but sorry, I'm fine. Two minutes later. the guy with whom he had the road rage confrontation comes banging on the door to the classroom. And the teacher's like, whoa. And the students are like, whoa. And the guy comes in and starts threatening the professor.

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And everybody's like, oh my God. And draws a gun. And the professor's like, oh, my God. So he runs and the guy runs after him. And it's great because my friend Sandy, who is, you know, like some people are good in a panic situation and some people aren't. And it was like a George Costanza thing, the way she explained there were all these big burly men who ran for the door like that.

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They didn't want any part of this. They weren't going to protect any of the people who were exposed in the classroom. And then there's Sandy, my very small boned nurse, who was like, get the guy in the wheelchair away from the door right now. You barricade the door. You make sure whatever. It's like she took control. Of course, you know where this is going because you're a prosecutor. Of course.

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Ten minutes later, five minutes later, the professor comes back into the classroom. He's totally fine. And he admits to the class that this was an exercise. And he says, take out a piece of paper and a pen. And all I want you to do is write down a description of the man. And they were all over the board. You know, one person said he was in a neon orange jacket. One said he was wearing all black.

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One said he had shorts on. One said he had full body pants and arms covered. And of course, the whole exercise was an attempt to show how unreliable eyewitness testimony is, especially when there's any sort of adrenaline involved or high stakes involved.

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Yeah. And by the way, today, depending on where you went, like you do that South of the Mason Dixon, you're going to get shot by one of the good guys with the gun in the, in the class. So for all sorts of reasons, it wouldn't happen now.

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And an effort underway to get the man convicted of killing his pregnant wife, Lacey, and their unborn son, Connor, a new trial. Joining me today, our pal, Matt Murphy, former California prosecutor and district attorney. Matt, good to see you again. Thank you for being here. All right. So this is so crazy.

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And now it's hard. to go back in a, in a quote documentary and second guess them, but it's happening. And they did just get this favorable ruling and all this new access to discovery. And the ultimate goal by the LA innocence project is a retrial for Scott Peterson. So you, you can't rule it out, especially in California.

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Um, one other thing, um, the watch, this was actually something that I didn't know about, but consistent with this whole lane that the defense is trying to open. The van, the bad guys. I mean, it's really kind of crazy to me that they say it wasn't the two burglars who actually burglarized the house across from Lacey who killed her. It was part of their gang because these two alibied out

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The investigators did check out these two to say, is there any chance they abducted Lacey? And they were, apparently they're like on videotape with their families during the relevant time where they would have had to been, you know, doing nefarious things. So then they expanded the theory to, well, it was their gang. Their gang did something with Lacey. Okay, so let's say it was their gang.

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The other piece of proof that they mention in this documentary is her watch. She had this sparkly watch, and the allegation is that this watch was offered up to a pawn shop on, let's see, a pawn shop claims that a lady came in to sell the watch on I mean, about a week after Lacey went missing, New Year's Eve from 2002 to 2003, and she had gone missing December 24th, 2002.

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It wasn't clear if this was Lacey's watch or what happened to it after, you know, it was, or whether, you know, it was sold, what happened to it. But here is Scott Peterson from prison on that piece of jewelry.

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And the cops in the piece, they deny they deny that they withheld and inappropriately withheld any evidence from the defense. I will show you this. Scott Peterson, maybe he's been working on his acting skills. He managed to work up a bit of emotion when he was, was on the phone in this documentary. I mean, it was interesting because he didn't cry at all.

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He showed no emotion the entire time she was allegedly quote missing. I told you at the vigil, he was talking to his girlfriend. He wasn't looking for Lacey. Um, And he didn't even flinch when they found him guilty or sentenced him to death. He explains that in this documentary saying, the media had been so horrible to me, I didn't want him to have his satisfaction.

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But then they end the piece with Scott getting all watery-eyed over Lacey. Watch this.

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Matt, remember that one interview Scott Peterson gave to a reporter? I don't think it was the Diane Sawyer one. I think it was the local reporter who got great stuff from him, and this was when the search was on for Lacey and Connor, and the phone rang, and he didn't even answer. Look at it. It was like didn't happen to your point, to exactly the point you're making.

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Like, well, the other thing is Matt, and I know this isn't like, this is just anecdotal between us, but his use of the term wonderful, we were going to have our wonderful Christmas together. I'm sorry, but that's just not how real people in love talk. And his message to her, Hey, beautiful. I think they'd been married. What?

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Like a few years might've been as many as seven at the time he left this alleged voicemail. Hey, beautiful. I mean, in my experience, like your man might call you like babe, honey, you know, it, I don't know. It all, yeah, it all sounded false to me. Like somebody who's intentionally trying to insert these, you know, superfluous terms.

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So to try to convince you that they're feeling something they're not.

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He didn't open up one lure, not one lure. They were all sitting there still in their plastic wrap in his boat.

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So in sum, we do not believe it is likely that they get ordered a new trial.

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Yeah. Well, I mean, at least in Menendez, they have an argument that there was mitigating evidence, right? Like that they had been tortured by their father. In this case, there's no such... There's no mitigation. I mean, if you believe Scott Peterson did this, he's a stone-cold psychopath who...

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rather than just getting the old fashioned divorce, decided to murder his own baby and beautiful young wife with a loving family who had everything going for her, who truly believed she was married to the man of her dreams. The theory is that he looked that sweet woman in the eyes and strangled her to death on their marital bed. that sick effer should never see the light of day.

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He should be on his knees every night, thanking God that the death penalty was reversed for him. That's good enough for him. I mean, that's the best victory he could hope for, in my view. Matt Murphy, thank you so much.

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Thanks so much for joining us today. And all week, we are back on Monday, live, looking forward to seeing and talking with you then. See you there. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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The more I hear about this case, the more it feels like Scott Peterson actually has a shot at a retrial, which just seems insane to me. But since you're a prosecutor and you're from California, I'm going to play devil's advocate here and I will try to make the case on his behalf. OK, it's more interesting if we if we have both sides.

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But that the initial test suggested maybe it was blood. Then the second test done by the officials suggested it was inconclusive, not clear whether it's blood or rust. Go ahead. Sorry, Matt.

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So he's just been given wide access to a whole new host of discovery that he says he was entitled to in this case, which my understanding is the judge had earlier said, you're not getting this. Go back to prison. Goodbye. But now he is getting access to a bunch of new evidence that would support allegedly this whole theory that.

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Scott Peterson is a relatively young man. I mean, if he were to get out, I think he would pose a danger to other women and other people.

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Obviously, it would take the most stone cold sociopath in America to murder one's eight month pregnant wife and one's unborn child with your bare hands and then dump them in the ocean like they were trash while you're talking to your lover with these nonsense claims while you're actually we actually have this queued up because it's just so amazing while you're actually at the vigil.

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for your missing wife and child talking to your lover. In Amber Frye's defense here, she did not know he was married. And at this point, the reason it's on tape is because when she saw his picture all over the news, she called the cops to say, holy cow, I'm dating your suspect. Um, and so she got him on tape and he's claiming he's in Paris on new year's Eve while Lacey's still missing.

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They haven't found the body. He's there. The vigils there, the people with the candles, he's on camera, like, Oh, poor, poor husband. And he's talking to the lover about the fake Paris fireworks. Here it is.

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Unreal is exactly the word. Now, Matt, I want to ask you a couple of things. Okay, so first of all, I understand there is a distinction between the Innocence Project and the L.A. Innocence Project. I don't know about this L.A. Innocence Project because in my experience, the bar is a little high for the Innocence Project to take on your case. I don't know about L.A. innocence. I've seen this.

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There's like a cleavage there in the reporting about these two. Maybe they have a lower standard. Secondly, the judge did say before she ordered all this discovery of all this extra stuff like the van and things around the van. We'll get to the specifics. She did say you can go back and do DNA testing on the duct tape that was found on Lacey's pants.

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when they found her body, there was still some duct tape wrapped around her from whoever wrapped her and connected her to anchors.

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That could be one of those situations that the results of that are under seal, but that could be one of those exact situations you just mentioned where maybe they won't find Scott's DNA on that, but maybe they'll find the DNA of the guy who worked at the Lowe's from whom Scott Peterson bought the duct tape.

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Now, if they found DNA that matches the DNA of one of the two burglars, although they're saying it wasn't them, it was their network. But let's just say they found DNA that matches one of the two burglars that she allegedly caught in the act. Now you're talking, right? Now, okay, now you've got our attention. So far, he's still sitting in prison and there's no retrial.

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So I'm guessing they didn't get that on the DNA return. Okay. And then the second thing I wanted to point out is you mentioned the absurdity of him going to take his boat, his brand new boat. He'd never taken out before. He wasn't really a fisherman. He takes his boat out on the, on the water Christmas day, um, just for the very first time on Christmas day.

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And, uh, he initially when asked, where were you while your wife went missing and the dogs running around the neighborhood and all this, he's initially said he was golfing. And then he changed his story, right? To make it fishing, presumably because he realized they had something that could prove he was in the area of the marina.

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What happened on the day Lacey Peterson went missing and was murdered was not that Scott Peterson killed her and then disposed of her body and that of their unborn son. It was that she witnessed a burglary across the street from where they lived. She either tried to stop it, which is what Scott Peterson says he believes, or she was just an eyewitness and therefore became a target.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to the Megyn Kelly Show. Happy Thursday. Christmas came early. It finally happened nearly a year after the shocking allegations against Fulton County DA Fannie Willis first came to light.

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I know you got to go. One of the mysteries is what ever happened to Susan? What happened to Susan? Right? Remember the ADA? She bailed after Terrence Bradley. Okay, it was Anna.

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Me too. Anna Cross. That's right. She was an ADA on the case. And once that guy, Terrence Bradley, took a stand and he should have just confirmed. Yes, Nathan did tell me they were having an affair was going on before she selected him, all this stuff. And instead he wiggled and wiggled and lied. Well, I think.

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And next thing you knew, you know, one of the DA's lawyers was never seen again because we lawyers don't really much like to be in the business of suborning perjury from a witness. Ashley Merchant, congratulations. Thank you. Total victory. Good for you. Thanks for having me. It's good to see everyone. Oh, you too. Mike Davis, right again. What's your reaction to the news?

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I'm sorry, I have no problem with that. None whatsoever. This woman would not let go of this case even when she knew she had done wrong. She definitely, in my opinion, took the stand and lied, committed perjury, notwithstanding the fact that she's an officer of the court and so did Nathan Wade. And she should be pursued. She should.

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Joining me now on the Fannie Willis News, attorney Ashley Merchant, partner at the Merchant Law Firm. She is the reason that the Fannie Willis disqualification happened. Ashley represents Trump co-defendant Michael Roman in that Atlanta, Georgia case and is the attorney who first shined a light on Fannie Willis' and Nathan Wade's inappropriate relationship.

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She should be pursued with the exact same vigor that she pursued Donald Trump. That is the only way these people who went after him with such venom will learn. I mean, Alvin Bragg and Fannie Willis in particular. Okay. here's the moment I remember. You guys know this. We met you shortly thereafter, Phil, when we started covering this and you were like, hey, I know a lot about this.

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This case, when it broke almost a year ago, was dismissed. I was like, this is bullshit. There's just some loser lawyer down in Atlanta who no one's ever heard of trying to question, you know, what is this salacious nonsense about an affiliate fair between these two? Like, come on, we're above it.

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And the New York Times' team over at The Daily had a discussion about that shortly after it did catch fire, as we all knew and predicted from the get-go it would. Listen.

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it was a hail Mary, you know, that really fell. It's like, no, no one really, no one saw it going anywhere.

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They were co-counsels, co-prosecutors in the case without disclosing it and engaged in all sorts of financial transactions that made it a compromise situation for both of them. We first spoke to Ashley on episode 748, which is well worth your time to go back and listen to now that this case has resurfaced. Also with me, Legal Eagle, Mike Davis, founder and president of the Article 3 Project.

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You know, Mike, as a practical matter, this is just so helpful to Trump because what he was alleged to have done in this case wasn't all necessarily in his role as official, you know, like official access president, thus falling within the Supreme Court ruling saying he has immunity for that. And, you know, the sort of scheme with the electors and some of the stuff after the fact.

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So it it might have been tougher to dump this case based on the Supreme Court than, you It was with the others. So it really, in some ways, did come down to this motion by Ashley Merchant, and she did it. And you know what? So the best part of it, because I think we'd be cheering it on either way, because this was just a bullshit, made-up claim, but...

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What's so great about it is Fannie Willis is guilty. This actually happened. We all believe that. There was so much testimony. Nathan Wade, he lied under oath in his interrogatory answers in his divorce proceeding where he claimed there was nobody that he'd taken the trips with. He had no receipts from any trips he'd taken with him. It was all lies. He'd been all over the world with Fannie.

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He was a proven liar. And this case came down to his testimony and Fannie's testimony. Neither was credible. They embarrassed themselves on a stand. And really what they showed was that they're not people of good character. And that was really at the heart of the problems behind them bringing this case to begin with.

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Yeah. Well, tell it to Joy Reid, because remember speaking about Fannie and some of these other Soros appointed DAs, many of whom got their jobs under the, oh, we need more, you know, DEI, whatever. Remember this from Joy Reid?

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He's been right about almost everything since we started having him on. It's been kind of actually eerie. And our friend Phil Holloway, Georgia-based legal analyst who we got to know through this case and host of the Inside the Law YouTube show. Don't wait, shop Cozy Earth now before their most loved gifts sell out this holiday season. What's your favorite Christmas memory?

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It already cost them the presidency. It cost them the Senate. And it could cost them a lot more, depending on what the investigations into them, which are undoubted, will likely show. So, Phil, bottom line, you say this is there won't be another prosecuting. Like if the person has to volunteer to say, I'll do it. And you say there's there's no one who's going to do that in all likelihood.

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against the president-elect of the United States. One additional question, Phil. They filed an appeal, as Ashley mentioned. Already, Fannie's trying to appeal this up to the Georgia Supreme Court. Do they have to take it? Can they reject it? And if they do take it, how do you like the chances there?

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It was a two to one opinion. All three Republican governor appointed, although different Republican governors. One person dissented, who was a Brian Kemp appointee, saying, I think this really is the trial judge's call and that we really don't have the authority to overrule him. The other two said, no, an abuse of discretion is reviewable by an appellate court.

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And we think this one was so egregious that this judge did abuse his discretion by not disqualifying her. And it's our obligation to protect the the law and the system. And this was one of those appearances of impropriety, appearances, not actual, but appearance of impropriety that is so great as to demand her DQ. Such a great result. Guys, thank you.

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I'm sure we'll have much more to discuss over the next four years, but what a great way to go into the Christmas season. Great to see you.

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Yeah, you too. You too. Merry Christmas. Wow. What a thing, you guys, right? We were all together. I feel like we went through this whole thing together. Nobody else was even covering this. Remember the day Phil came on and we had all the text messages between Ashley and Terrence Bradley and read them all on the air. I was like... Such, such a great story.

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Not really for Fannie, but, you know, for us and ultimately for Trump and Michael Roman at all. OK, up next, VDH is here for the rest of the show. Can't wait to get his reaction to this news and much, much more. Don't go away. This holiday season, millions of families across America will rely on credit card rewards to visit their loved ones.

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Find out more at GuardYourCard.com and consider telling Congress to guard your card and to oppose the Durbin-Marshall credit card bill. Learn more for yourselves at GuardYourCard.com. Joining me now, Victor Davis Hanson, senior fellow at the Hoover Institution and author of The Case for Trump, which was just updated for 2024.

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That was officially not one of the books that Fannie Willis was reading when she was pursuing Donald Trump and getting her office psyched up to get him. VDH, welcome back to the show. Wow. I mean, it's just a complete victory for Trump on this lawfare, not to mention politically, but on this lawfare in particular.

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That's the thing. So we played a sound bit of Joy Reid, like you go, my DEIs, you know, like, I don't know if you heard that, but it's, the problem is not Fannie Willis's race. It's that she was promoted to this role, probably in part because of her race and her gender, right? Because the left, leftist party likes to celebrate those things over merit.

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She was not smart enough or competent enough for the job, which this case has proven. She wasn't ready to try this RICO case against Trump and these others. And by the way, no one smart would have engaged in this unethical behavior and then taken the witness stand and clearly, in my opinion, lied about it under oath.

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So the problem is not the election or the elevation of people of color or of women in particular. It's that if you lower the standards of merit and accomplishment and seriousness to promote people like that, you get what you get and you can't get upset. As we say to our toddlers, this is what you're going to wind up with.

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Somebody who can't get it done, who makes stupid decisions that foil the case for you.

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Dean Obadala, former attorney, he's now at SiriusXM hosting a show, but was, I know, I think from MSNBC, contributor to the Daily Beast. He tweets out as follows, or no, it wasn't a tweet. It was an op-ed that he sent out back in, well, a year ago, November. Georgia appeals court disqualifies... Wait a minute. This is today. Sorry. It's the earlier he wrote an op-ed.

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He tweeted out today, Georgia appeals court disqualifies Fulton County DA Fannie Willis from prosecuting Trump. The system is working exactly as designed to protect wealthy white men from being held accountable. Is that what happened here?

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That's right. That was so offensive. And Fannie Willis, too, played the race card openly in this case, which I also think is repulsive to fair minded black Americans who are sick and tired of hearing their race used as a weapon to justify bad behavior. by in this case, a black woman and a black man. They see right through this too. They know this is BS.

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When she got in trouble, this came out, Ashley filed her motion. It was clear she'd been having an affair with the special prosecutor she brought in who was then enhancing her lifestyle lavishly by flying her all over the world and the hotels and so on. And rather than saying that was dumb, I shouldn't have done that.

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And I understand, you know what, for the sake of the case, I'm going to disqualify myself and another prosecutor can take this. She didn't do it. What'd she do? She went out and played the race card saying, oh, why'd they only come after Nathan Wade? I brought in two other prosecutors who they have no issue with. Well, you're not stooping the other two. Remember this? This was,

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All right. We've got to start with you, Ashley. Congratulations. Thank you. You must be very happy and probably not surprised.

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A Georgia appeals court has officially disqualified her from the Trump election interference case. It happened You guys, we were all together when this first broke. Remember how the mainstream absolutely crapped on the story as a nothing burger? Well, she's gone. She's gone. She's done. It's over for her and her entire office, and it's official.

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You know, Victor, I've been listening to you and reading you, and you've captured something that I think we were feeling but maybe hadn't given voice to, which is part of what's happening right now, I think, in the groundswell of support behind Trump is Americans love a comeback. They love it. But they also love it when it's been like the most epic historic pile on or at least one of them.

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I can't think of one that's worse that we've ever seen against a presidential candidate and a guy who served as president in the nation's history. I mean, Trump got it from all angles, including assassination attempts. But the lawfare, ironically, would prove critical, I think, to his rising again, to the respect and the admiration of a lot of people toward him.

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The, yeah, the shift in what used to be considered aggressive, like it's a little aggressive to wear your MAGA hat back in 16. I had so many people say that to, you've got kids, including my own, openly wanting Trump t-shirts and they'll wear them wherever they want to. Without shame, they'll proudly wear them. They already wore MAGA hats. I mean, it's just, there's been something remarkable.

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There's absolutely no shame around it now. People are proud. It's actually cool. And it's all, honestly, it's due to, well, I guess two things, Trump and the Democrats' tactics against him. But how he handled them has been an example in how to fight. Stand by, Victor Moore, right after this quick break.

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Very happy. So what does it mean? Can you give a quick 411 for the non-lawyer audience of what does this mean?

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Now, as Kamala Harris has lost and no one's done the in-depth think piece other than us on how problematic she was, she was forget the team around her and their decision making. Yes, that that, too. But she it's been hands off of her. We now get the press turning on Joe Biden. So it's like now they're getting really honest about Joe Biden. OK, yes, fine. But still nothing on her pod.

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Save America going after Biden and The Wall Street Journal. Yes, they went after him before, but they have done yet another relatively in-depth piece on his failing mental acuity. By the way, he's still president. Just for those of you keeping track at home. on how he cabinet members were not able to speak to him.

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They just kept getting stiff armed and came to understand speaking to the president was just not a possibility on how all of his aides ran cover for him and acted more like they were the president on how, uh, they had to bring in a voice coach that they got through Jeffrey Katzenberg. Um,

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to help him try to sound more robust on how in 2020, this is 2020, not 2024, Jill Biden was out there seeing more counties in Iowa, far more than Joe Biden could or was able to see to the point where his aides had to chastise hers to say, stop telling people that. It doesn't make us look good. On and on it goes. And Charles C.W.

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Cook raises a good point over at National Review today saying, you know, where's the accountability? Forget the press and Morning Joe, best Joe Biden ever for Kamala Harris, who peddled this lie just as much as anyone and yet remains in an article every other day as the front runner for the 2028 presidential nomination on the Dem side.

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Yeah. The Wall Street Journal did do an article on Biden's mental acuity before the election, before his implosion, I should say. And so but this one goes more in depth. And what's interesting is now more and more people are talking right now.

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People on the inside of the administration are ready to to own up to the fact that he couldn't speak with cabinet members and Representative Adam Smith, a Democrat, moderate Democrat in Washington. He's been on the show the He's on the record here saying he sought to talk to Biden to share his insights about Afghanistan and couldn't get on the phone with him.

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You know, Ron Klain, his then White House chief of staff, was running interference with everybody. Just like Trump, they had to keep all negative news out of Biden's press briefings. Except during Trump, you saw that story everywhere. Trump's so thin skinned, he can't read bad polls. He can't read negative coverage, which is all the coverage for Trump. Same for Biden.

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They reveal in this report that they had to pull news clips and they had to make sure that it excluded negative stories. And on speaking of the Robert, her investigation into Joe Biden's retention of classified documents, unlike Trump, from when he was not in a position to have them at his home or anywhere. Right. It was a senator. You're supposed to review them in a skiff, a secure room.

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You can't take them outside of the office, which he did. Anyway, they said that they took these press sessions with him and that they took three hours a day for a week. But Joe Biden couldn't recall the lines that his team had previously discussed with him. And then it came out that in that her interview, he couldn't remember when his son Bo died. And Robert Hurst said, I can't prosecute this guy.

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He's a well-meaning elderly man with a poor memory. That's what a jury will see. And here's what Kamala Harris said after that.

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Victor, those lies cost the Democrats the White House. They cost them. Will there be no accountability for her?

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Yeah, it's genuinely terrifying. Well, Joe Biden also came close to retaining the presidency and serving a second term. If he hadn't had that meltdown, those senior moments at that June debate, who knows what would have happened. He gave an interview. Today, this is to the Midas Touch guy, which is a popular left-wing podcast.

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And would you listen to him talk about the goals he had coming into office and how he did SOP 31?

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His approval rating right now is 39. There's another poll having him at 34. He's going down day to day. I don't know if people are forgetting. They think he's gone already, but it's going down right now. Trump is going up. Trump's approval rating right now, his favorability rating, is at 49%, which is amazing. We haven't seen those kinds of numbers for Trump. This time in 2016, it was at 42%.

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Here is Fannie Willis trying to make this case, because it resulted in a hearing, of course, at which she embarrassed herself, about you and your alleged lies. Watch this.

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And he had a 53 percent unfavorable. Right now it's 47 percent unfavorable. So Trump's unfavorables have shrunk considerably. His favorability has gone up considerably. And he is between 10 and 15 points higher than Joe Biden in favorability. How how does Hitler fascist dictator on day one do that, Victor?

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They came in. They forgot that he was the reason they had those jobs, that they had those positions. They had him to thank for them.

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The TDS just completely blinded them. They could never get their eyes clear again. And that's why all their predictions were wrong. Their opinions were wrong. They've completely discredited themselves. Back on team Biden, I did want to play you this just on the subject of his infirmity, because I know most of the media want to just

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move on, forget it, nevermind that massive fraud we perpetrated on America. But it is interesting to go back to Pod Save America to hear those guys, those are Obama guys, now talking about it. And there's one guy, Favreau, another guy, Lovett, and they're talking about how Biden is gone. Like, where is he? He is the incredibly, incredible shrinking president right now.

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I mean, I'm fine with it because I definitely don't want to see her elevated. I really did think he should go, but now we're so close to the end. Just, that's fine. As long as he stays alive through January 20th, I'm okay with it. But it really does feel more like Trump is president, a point they were making as well. Listen to Sat18.

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Well, that's not how you really the trial court saw it or the appellate court saw it. And, you know, you tell me whether you think you're going to be getting an apology now from Fannie Willis for publicly accusing you of being a liar.

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Meanwhile, Joe Biden seems to be actively doing his best to undermine the. the Trump agenda that was voted for by our democratic Republic, you know, democracy, um, they wanted among other things, the wall, which Trump of course ran on and mentioned many times he's selling off the border part, the border wall, what's left of it. for parts right now.

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Elon and Trump have been saying one of the things that they want to do is get federal workers back into the office. They're saying either that or we should sell all these federal buildings because they're costing us billions of dollars a year and nobody's working. These federal government employees have cut these deals where they get to work from home like three, four, sometimes five days a week.

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and have all sorts of ways of making it look like they're on their computer when they're not really on their computer and absolutely no accountability for whether they're actually working for the two and $300,000 a year that some of them are getting. And now he's also, so he signed this long-term Biden deal with social security workers so that they can continue working from home through 2029.

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And he's hiring all these DEI hires for roles. This is reported by the Daily Wire the other day, for roles to head up, you know, DEI investigations and agencies and so on that Trump's undoubtedly not even going to pursue. Now he can undo that last one a little bit more easily than he can undo the first two.

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But Trump was saying on the wall parts, this is going to cost us hundreds of millions of dollars. Why don't we own them? You know, Biden's team says, oh, they're worthless. Well, why don't you let Trump be the judge of that? If they are, he'll sell them off. Don't start selling off the border wall like you've been doing for the past four years.

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Not to mention what they did, he and his wife, to little Navy Biden, putting up the stockings of all the other grandchildren, but not hers, and having nothing to do with her, not even acknowledging her existence.

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Right. And unity. He did a great job. Heck of a job, Brownie. All right. Stand by because there is an update in the George Stephanopoulos debacle over at ABC News. We discussed this at length the other day on what were the producers saying in his ear? You know, and I talked about how my producers, when I say something wrong, they save me often. They'll say, no, it was this.

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And sometimes I correct myself. Sometimes they correct me. But the point is, we do our best to bring you guys correct information. And one of the questions we asked was when he was doing that disaster segment that just cost ABC News 16 million dollars, were his producers saying, George, not rape? No, Trump wasn't found liable for rape.

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Were they trying to help him avoid this defamation suit or were they as dumb and reckless as he was? Well, it appears we have the answer. That's next. I'm Megyn Kelly, host of The Megyn Kelly Show on Sirius XM. It's your home for open, honest, and provocative conversations with the most interesting and important political, legal, and cultural figures today.

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The news breaking this morning in the New York Post that, according to them, George Stephanopoulos was warned by his executive producer not to use the word rape in describing what a jury had found Trump civilly liable for. That his producer had said to him, it was not rape, don't call it rape. And it appears he ignored that advice. Now, here's what's I mean, this is very interesting to me.

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It just shows the depths of hatred like Fannie Willis that George Stephanopoulos has for Trump. They're their flagship anchor. I mean, he and David Muir, whom we saw all saw his performance at the debate, are the two main guys over there. And so here's what The Post reports in an exclusive article.

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Okay, Stephanopoulos was repeatedly told by his executive producer not to use the word rape before going on air, but the ABC News anchor ignored the warning. This week's producer, because he said this on his Sunday show, said, don't use the word rape, that's in quotes, before the segment started, a network source told the Post. The EP said it, quote, so many times.

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A second source at the show, listen to this, confirmed via a text message viewed by the post that Stephanopoulos was warned not to say rape. So this post has seen some sort of text message in which a second source somehow confirms that George was told not to say rape. Could it be they saw a text message to George?

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you know, confirming it or could they, could the EP, somebody wrote down understanding this was problematic that they had made a record. They told George not to do this. He did it. And now you've got an ABC spokesperson saying to CNN, Oh, that's not true. It's absolutely not true that he was warned. Well, These spokespeople lie through their teeth all the time.

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You can't believe one word any of them say at Fox, at NBC, and at ABC. Trust me, not to mention CNN. But it's very interesting to me that they're saying they've got it confirmed by two separate sources inside ABC that he was told. And honestly, Victor, if that's true, I don't want to hear one more word from anybody about Why did ABC News settle? You know, people think they had a shot at winning.

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First of all, they didn't because it's very clear he wasn't found civilly liable for rape. But second of all, you've got the EP saying, I told him not to do it. And he insisted on doing it 10 times in one segment. What do you make of it?

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I think you're good. You don't need a resolution. You've already gotten a decision that declares effectively what you said was true and it was deeply problematic. Phil Holloway, you said it from the beginning as well, that this absolutely is untoward behavior and that you can't have, just so people are reminded of what the controversy was, you can't have the sitting D.A.,

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Another nail in the lawfare coffin against now President-elect Donald Trump. The court says the indictment against the President-elect and his co-defendants still stands. That's not a surprise. They took a shot, tried to get it dumped along with her, but no one really put much stock in that. But the ruling leaves open the question of... Who the hell is going to take over the case, if anyone?

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That's really true because look at the David Muir and Lindsay Davis suffered absolutely no consequences as a result of that disastrous debate. Martha Raddatz of ABC is the one who was like, The Venezuelan gangs have only invaded a couple of apartment buildings. No problem. She's fine with them. This is a Bob Iger problem. Obviously, the man who's transing Disney right now.

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with a financial incentive to make the case go on, not because of her own job, she has that no matter what, but because she's having an affair with a special prosecutor she brought in who does get paid based on how long the case goes on. He's getting money from the county if it goes on longer. If it ends, he doesn't. And he was taking her all over the world.

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No, but it was very clear. And that, that was based on his defamation because he continued to say, no, she's a nut case that it was 5 million for the alleged sexual assault. But here's, what's crazy. Like it's, It's crystal clear that the jury said no on rape. They said no. They said yes on sexual abuse. And yet here's what you get there.

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Here's Joy Reid, you know, the Albert Einstein of MSNBC weighing in with her legal opinion. SOT 23.

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If she doesn't point out, he said 10 times that a jury found him civilly liable for rape, for rape, for rape. And I'm looking at the jury form right here. Question number one. Did Ms. Carroll prove by a preponderance of the evidence that Mr. Trump raped Ms. Carroll? No. Question two, that Mr. Trump sexually abused Ms. Carroll. No. Yes, it's right there. Black and white. It is not imprecise.

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It is what's the word? Oh, yeah. Wrong. And actually defamatory when it's repeated another nine times on top of that with the executive, the producer of the show saying, George, stop that. It's wrong.

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I said, after that case, I was ready to have an affair with Nathan Wade. I would love to see Belize. He takes you everywhere. Yeah.

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You know, it's good, Victor. I mean, we talked about this on the show the other day. The even Trump is saying I'm not into banning. I'm not talking about banning vaccines, but I do think we should look into them. That's all. And then that story about the polio vaccine was, of course, misrepresented his lawyer personally. pushed to question one strain.

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I think there are eight total of the polio vaccine. It's just one. That's it. Even the lawyer for RFKJ never pushed to ban the polio vaccine, and neither did RFKJ. And Trump is already on record saying, we're not banning the polio vaccine. But you're right. His belly is exposed on the vaccines because that really upsets the left.

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Now, I got to run because we're going to we're going to get cut off by the computer. And I don't want to be too unceremonious to you, my friend. But thank you. Thanks so much for being here. And Victor, Merry Christmas.

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Lots of love. Thanks for everything this year. Tomorrow, before we go, the two B's, Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt. See you then. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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Wow. I mean, that's just huge. I'm going to bring Mike in too in a second, but Ashley's got to leave in a minute. So I want to go back to you, Ashley. Did you really believe when you filed this thing initially that it could effectively potentially end the whole case?

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If you're keeping tabs, the Jack Smith cases have been dismissed without prejudice. And in the New York documents case, Judge Mershon denied President-elect Trump's bid to dismiss his conviction on the ground of presidential immunity, which was an absolute mistake. That will be one of the many successful grounds of appeal for Mr. Trump.

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Yes. I mean, it could have been that she was seeing the world thanks to Nathan Wade's additional money. And it could have been hatred of Donald Trump. Either way, it's inappropriate. Hatred toward the defendant is not an appropriate motivator for a DA. She's supposed to just seek justice. What was your what was your client's reaction when you told him the news?

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I feel like president Trump owes him a solid. If he hadn't filed that motion, I mean, you, you were onto this when nobody else was onto this. It took a local lawyer with local connections. I mentioned Terrence Bradley because he was in practice with Nathan Wade and they had been very close and he knew what was going on between the two of them.

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And before he realized that this would all blow up, he told you about it. It brings with he, with Bradley and Wade didn't end well. So he, he was fine.

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ratting out his friend and then when he took the stand speaking of odor of mendacity he just pretended he knew nothing to the point where the trial court was like i put absolutely no faith in a word that man said but that's how transparent you were you were like here's my entire phone here i'll give you my whole phone to the prosecuting attorney you can look at every single text message i have nothing to hide but still you got accused of lying you didn't lie you told the truth and

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Our friend Danny McCarthy expects Trump will not be sentenced even without a reversal while he's president. Unprecedented situation. But that that that trial judge in that case made so many material errors that things getting reversed when it goes up. But for now, we'll just let it stay in. Purgatory, as they're holding the proceedings, as Trump assumes the presidency.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and today's AM special episode. Today we're going to discuss the curious case of Carlos Watson. This holiday season, millions of families across America will rely on credit card rewards to visit their loved ones.

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Okay, so he decided that it was all Samir Rao's fault and it wasn't Carlos Watson at all. Now I'm going to jump ahead because ultimately, Carlos Watson... and Samir Rao, and a third executive were charged by the feds for committing a massive fraud on their investors. And there's news in the case, which is why we are bringing the curious case of Carlos Watson to you today.

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I was still in my sitting on the couch, figuring things out stage. And he had a booker reach out to me and asked me whether I wanted to go on his show. And I never heard of his show. Like, what's his show? It's on YouTube. Oh, it's exploding. It's big. You know, you, you should, you should go on. So I did what I always do in these situations.

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And I will get to all that in due time. But I want to just flash forward for a moment to the prosecution's uh, elicitation of what happened in, um, that call with the YouTube executive. Okay. This is what the prosecutors told the jury actually happened. Cause you heard there, Carlos Watson saying it was Samir, very sad, you know, wasn't me. It's, it's very unfortunate.

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Here is the source here, the DOJ. Uh, and, and, um, this is in the trial. There was an eight week trial of Carlos this past summer from approximately, uh,

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November 2020 through February 2021, Watson and his co-conspirators attempted to induce Goldman Sachs to invest up to $45 million in Aussie by means of material misrepresentations and omissions regarding Aussie's historical and projected financial results, debts, and business relationships.

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Had the full $45 million investment occurred as intended, $6 million of it would have been paid to Carlos Watson personally. He was trying to get Goldman to invest $45 million and $6 million of it was going to go into his back pocket. As part of its due diligence, Goldman Sachs executive asked Watson and Rao to arrange a meeting with someone from YouTube.

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Watson and his co-conspirators claimed the online video service had paid Ozzy nearly $6 million in licensing revenue for the Carlos Watson show. This was another misrepresentation. Ozzy was never paid by YouTube for Ozzy content. Yet another lie.

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They looked at Goldman Sachs, these bankers, and said, not only are we going to put you in touch with the YouTube executive, but that we have been paid $6 million by YouTube for licensing our amazing show. YouTube doesn't pay two cents to license this amazing show. And trust me, I will take it. They want to pay me $6 million to license my show. Great.

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Anywho, not what happened in my case or in his, the difference being I never represented to investment bankers that it did in an, in an effort to induce a $45 million investment. Okay. They go on to say, um,

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Okay, because Ozzy did not, in fact, have any business relationship whatsoever with YouTube, Watson and Rao agreed that Rao would impersonate a media executive at YouTube in communications with Goldman Sachs.

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On January 28th, 2021, Rao, with Watson's agreement, created a fake email address in the name of the media executive, that's Alex Piper again, which he used to correspond with representatives of Goldman Sachs.

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On February 2nd, 2021, Rao had a phone call with employees of Goldman Sachs during which he impersonated said media executive from YouTube using a voice alteration application that he downloaded onto his cellular telephone to mask his voice during the call. Pay attention here.

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During the call, Watson was in the same room as Rao and texted Rao instructions about what to say and what not to say on the call. What to say? Can we just can we rerun Aaron Ross Sorkin? He was sitting there telling him exactly what to say as the fake YouTube executive. And now listen to Carlos Watson's explanation again to Andrew Ross Sorkin.

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And I had Abby, my assistant look into whether this is a real person with a real show. And is this something I should consider? And this is a montage of people he's had on his shows over the years. But this is a sampling that represents what we found when we started looking into who is Carlos Watson and who does he typically interview? Let's play SOT50.

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Every word of that was a lie. You did know. You were there. We figured it out. You did it. There's nothing to figure out. You were part of it. I immediately called back Goldman. It's wrong. It's heartbreaking. I mean, it is wrong. It's not heartbreaking to you. Maybe that you got caught and now your whole fraudulent empire is crumbling. But that's just a taste of how it went.

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And I must say, though I am not a fan personally of that anchor, he did a very good job in that interview. He, as I mentioned, also went on with Craig Melvin over on the Today Show and said, Ozzy is restarting. We're opening back up. Like seconds after they were shut down because all the employees understood that it was a fraud. And here's how he described it. It's a quick soundbite. Listen here.

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No, no, actually. And they did try to reopen. That would not last. You will not be surprised to hear. Now, Um, as I mentioned, he was ultimately charged. The feds did step in and they charged him and his two co-conspirators with, um, here's the charges against Carlos.

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One count of conspiracy to commit securities fraud, conspiracy to commit wire fraud, which is when you get somebody to fraudulently transfer money to you, um, and aggravated identity theft, um, In connection with a years-long scheme to defraud investors and lenders to Ozzy of tens of millions of dollars. Tens of millions. They estimated, actually former COO Samir Rao testified at Carlos' trial.

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He estimated that investors poured between $75 million and $100 million into the company. Those investments wound up worth zero. Zero. Because there was no there there. There were almost no YouTube viewers. There was no groundswell of support behind Carlos Watson's Aussie media.

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He was posting fake YouTube numbers where he claimed to have, for example, a million views on a video, and those videos would have fewer than 100 comments. Now, if you get a million views on a video on YouTube, you don't have a hundred comments. I went just to look at, for an example, some of ours. One video we posted has 4 million views. It has 177,000 comments. One video has 3.5 million viewers.

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It has 100,000 comments. you don't post a million dollar or one that gets a million views and have under, you know, a thousand comments, a couple, a fewer than a hundred comments on it. That's a tell.

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And it appears they were doing some sort of a scheme where their videos would pop up in the background of some site you were visiting and you wouldn't even know it was running and it would count as a view, but it explains the total lack of engagement by the audience because they're not even watching it. And that's why nobody knew who Carlos Watson was.

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but he was using this scheme to go to people like Bill Gates and yours truly and say, hey, I have this big YouTube presence, please come on my show. Then the more of us who said yes, the more he'd use our names to go get other big name guests and so on and so forth. Okay, but that is not all that happened inside of his company. Listen to this.

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The DOJ, okay, talks about in December of 2019, this also came up in trial, Watson and his co-conspirators, hold on, okay, attempted to induce a bank to lend Aussie money. This is before 2019. The YouTube thing.

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Based on misrepresentations and omissions about Ozzy's business, Watson and his co-conspirators sought to secure the loan with anticipated revenues from a second season of an Ozzy TV show. However, the contract between Ozzy and the show's cable network for the second season of the show was still under negotiation.

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Courthouse News reports that the channel was the Oprah Winfrey Network and the show was, quote, "'Black women own the conversation' in which Watson was the host." The DOJ alleges that to induce the bank to make this loan sooner, Watson directed Ozzie's then chief financial officer, the CFO, Tripti Thakur,

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to send the bank a fake signed contract between Ozzy and the cable network, which again, we're assuming is own, purporting to be signing him up for the second season. So here again, he's going to a bank, trying to get an investment, claiming he had a deal that he did not have. But this CFO, unlike his COO, Sumir, the CFO, Tripty Thacker, refused to do it.

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He wanted her to come up with a fake signed contract showing he had this deal secured. And she said no. When she said no, Samir, with Carlos Watson's approval, reading here the allegations by the DOJ, sent the fake contract to the bank, copying everything. Thacker. So in other words, the woman, the CFO said, I'm not doing that shit. And Samir and Carlos were like, we don't need her.

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So they drafted up the fake contract and sent it along and had the temerity, the stupidity to CC the CFO who had just said, I'm not doing that. Going back to the DOJ's allegation later that day, Tripti Thakur emailed Watson and Rao to say she was resigning effective immediately. She explained, quote, this is illegal. This is fraud.

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This is forging someone's signature with the intent of getting an advance from a publicly traded bank. She continued to be crystal clear. What you see as a measured risk, I see as a felony.

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In subsequent months, Watson and his co-conspirators, again here quoting from the DOJ, continue to attempt to induce the bank to lend Aussie several million dollars based on misrepresentations and omissions, including regarding the expected revenue from the second season of the Aussie TV show. During these discussions, the bank requested to speak to a representative of the cable network.

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To conceal the lies about Ozzy's relationship with the cable network and the status in terms of their agreements, Rao, with Watson's approval, created a fake email address in the name of an actual executive of the cable network, again, which we think is own, which Rao used to impersonate the executive and communicate with the bank about the potential loan. This is just unbelievable.

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This is not like a one-off. It's not like a momentary lapse of ethics. It's like a serial fraud that these two were engaged in. Okay, and then there's another piece that was brought up about the way they lured in this guy, Brad Bessie. who they wanted to be an executive producer at Ozzy.

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And what they told this guy who had been the EP of Entertainment Tonight was, we're going to launch, you're going to be the executive producer of Carlos's new show. It's going to go on A&E. We're hot. It's a hot property. This is June of 2020. And they lure this guy in, Brad Bessie, and he's like, it's on, great. I'm going to be the EP.

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I am hired as the EP of The Carlos Watson Show, a daily half-hour interview program produced by Ozzy, hosted by Watson, and it's going to be in primetime on A&E. That's what Samir Rao told him. Okay, I think you already know where this is going. Mr. Bessie said he had no contact with A&E executives during the making of the show. They were making it.

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And when he asked Mr. Watson and Mr. Rao about it, they said the executives wanted to talk only to them. And when Mr. Bessie said he knew several A&E executives and would be happy to reach out to them, they told him, maybe not.

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Another warning sign, Mr. Bessie said, was that one of the other producers pointed out that A&E had already scheduled the show Hoarders for the very time slot that was supposedly meant for the Carlos Watson show. Toward the end of July of 2020, Mr. Bessie got in touch himself with an A&E executive to confirm that the channel would indeed broadcast the Carlos Watson show.

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Okay. So, you know, Bill Gates, big name, tough guest to book. There are a lot of big names in there. And we were told by Carlos's producers what the YouTube traffic was, what the numbers were. And, you know, you sort of just want to make sure that this is up to your level, right? You don't want to go on a show with four viewers. So I said yes. And I did go on Carlos's show a couple of times.

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That is when he learned it would not appear on A&E, he said. Mr. Bessie said he resigned when he learned that he'd been lied to. And in a farewell email to Watson and Rao, which he shared with the New York Times, he wrote... you are playing a dangerous game with the truth. The consequences of offering an A&E show to guests when we don't have one to offer are catastrophic for Ozzy and for me.

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This is just absolutely incredible. So all of this comes to a head. this past summer when the U S attorney, well, first the U S attorney charged him, which happened prior to this summer. And then there was a trial. Here's the U S attorney for the Eastern district of New York, which is Brooklyn announcing the conviction of Carlos Watson. Take a listen.

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They alleged at trial that they, by the way, they have a lot of sophisticated investors in Aussie too. Lorraine Powell jobs, of course, because she's never seen a woke project that she doesn't like. Carlos wasn't woke on the air, but he was a black man launching a media company that was supposed to be more centrist in its approach. And he's seeking out for money in 2020, June of 2020 and so on.

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When it was post George Floyd, I mean, people were dying to give Carlos money. So in any event, you had at the trial, people like Alex Piper of YouTube testify, the head of Google, Sundar Pichai, can't remember, I don't know if that's how you pronounce it. I've only ever seen his last name written.

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they testified for the government saying they never had deals with Ozzy with whom, you know, Carlos was claiming he did have deals and, um, they never considered buying Ozzy at any price, contrary to Watson's claims to investors. He had said like Google had considered buying and so on. So, um,

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The prosecutor said that Watson had also assured investors that Ozzie was thriving, even as its cash reserves sank to $19,000 at one point, and it was struggling to pay rent wages and other basic expenses, but they still wanted to line their own pockets. All right. So all of this goes down, Carlos gets convicted and now he was facing prison time, my friends, prison time of, uh,

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The minimum was two years and the maximum was 29, 29. He wanted the minimum, of course, and the government wanted something like 19 years, I think. And the sentencing just happened just prior to the sentencing. which was, was it, what was the actual date of the sentencing, sentencing, trying to find out. But it was, it was very recent.

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Just prior to the sentencing, guess who, guess who reached out? It was just this past Monday. Guess who reached out to the MK show? Carlos Watson through his PR person. Yeah, yeah. By the way, Sumir, whatever, and another person at Ozzy, they're also facing charges, and they testified against Carlos at trial, and we'll see how things go out.

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They'll probably do better than he's doing because they struck a deal. Anyway, Carlos said he wanted to come on the show in advance of his sentencing, which we found very interesting. I mean, I couldn't believe my ears. I was like, is he really going to come on here? I mean, he knows I'm a lawyer. He knows I'm not going to give him a pass. We've covered this before since he's gotten in trouble.

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And we prepared. We got ready. We had all the research pulled and so on and so forth. And the day of the interview, they canceled. to the surprise of no one on our team. And then like a day or two later, he did pop up on a podcast, one you've never heard of called Way Up with Angela Yee. And I will give you a feel for how That went, okay, hold on.

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I can't say, I'm looking at my sought list, but what I want here is the soundbite in which he talks about being a black man and what's happening to him.

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I started it because I wanted to be able to talk about the news in an unbridled way. I feel like more and more we're telling people they have to be quiet or they have to use certain words or not use certain words or don't touch that subject. Or if you touch it, you have to talk about it this way. And... I don't like it.

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Oh, my God. He's trying to claim they're after him because he's black. This is a desperate man. That nonsense about Ben Smith. He's got to be in his bonnet about Ben Smith, who did this reporting for The Times. You know, was it BuzzFeed? Then went to The Times and now has launched Semaphore.

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Trying to claim that somehow he had a personal beef against Carlos because like at one point, BuzzFeed tried to buy Carlos and he wouldn't sell. Meanwhile, Ben Smith had been on my show and we interviewed Ben about this. And here's what he said just for the record on it. Salt 62.

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And that was it. So Ben Smith has nothing to do with this. I don't know why I decided to blame Ben Smith. And Ben Smith's dad is a judge on New York State's highest court. This is a federal trial. And Ben Smith's dad had absolutely nothing to do with it. I do not know how he took this turn. But you heard that sound bite.

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If I were white and running a media company that was healthy and hired people and someone in Brooklyn tried to prosecute me, And then he takes a dodge. It's like you, Angela, you know, you you're in Brooklyn and somebody tries to prosecute you in some other jurisdiction like Utah. I don't live in Brooklyn. I never had an office there. I didn't have nothing to do with that except Ben Smith.

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Why is it? Can we just run it again? Can you run that soundbite again?

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I don't like cancel culture and I don't like false parameters being put around speech. I'm almost a First Amendment absolutist. And I'm worried about what's happening to the country along these lines. So I think it's worth fighting for. And I wanted a forum that I would control so that I would not be cancelable. Right on. Still feel that way.

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All right. So just first of all. I didn't have nothing to do with that. Okay, because he's going on a show hosted by a black woman playing the race card. This Harvard and Stanford Law graduate is now, I had nothing. I had nothing to do with that. Okay, Carlos, who do you think you're fooling? You know, the New York Times would be saying, oh, he's just code switching like Kamala.

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We're going to win. We're going to win. OK, we hear you talk every day. We know you don't talk like that. Stop it. Ridiculous. But he gets in front of a presumably mostly black audience and he tries to play the race card and sound like that. OK, sure. If we keep allowing them to snuff out black excellence, I promise you it won't stop with me. What part was the black excellence?

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Was it the way Samir impersonated Alex Piper with voice alteration technology? Is that, because I think that might be Indian excellence. I'm not sure. I haven't looked into Samir, but it sounds like an Indian name. I'm not sure. I know you were pulling it. Was the black excellence you Cyrano de Bergiac-ing it from your phone texting Samir?

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While he did it, is that what you mean by black excellence? Because that's the kind of thing we actually do want to snuff out. Not so much your straight news interviews, which had you just tried harder, Carlos, might have eventually turned into something. But you decided to shortchange it.

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You decided to cheat your way to the top rather than doing the long, hard slog that all of us in this lane have to do. And let me tell you, I know of what I speak. Year one on this show, when I went on the Carlos Watson show, when I had Carlos on this show, it was just like that. It was hard. It was hard. You check the downloads. It builds in inches, not miles.

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You know, it doesn't, it's not like one day you tune in and you've got millions of subscribers, not at all. It takes years and it takes a lot of elbow grease and it takes a lot of patience. And I've told you before what I kept saying to my team, all throughout that lean period was just keep rowing, just keep rowing.

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And then eventually, hopefully, if you have a good product, you hit smooth sailing, right? And things start coming your way and you catch a great gust of wind. Carlos Watson was full of wind and decided to shortchange everything and behave in a criminally fraudulent manner. And And it had nothing to do with snuffing out black excellence that he got criminally charged for his crimes.

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Nothing whatsoever. By the way, there was a black prosecutor you heard announcing his conviction. As I said, really, really focused on... his color now. So, um, at sentencing, he did the same thing when he got, um, up in front of the judge. This was once again, a big thing that he tried to play about the race card.

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So Carlos, let me promote my podcast that you're listening to right now in its infancy on his show. And we became friendly. I never saw him socially, but he had me on a few times. And then eventually I had him on my baby podcast, as I pointed out. And it was kind of interesting. I mean, I remember what I was interested in getting Carlos's bio and it was tough.

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He told the judge that he was a target of selective prosecution as a black entrepreneur in Silicon Valley, where African-American executives have been disproportionately few. And he called the case quote, a modern lynching. a modern lynching. I made mistakes. I'm very, very sorry that people are hurt, myself included, like a true narcissist. Back to me, I'm sad, but I don't think it's fair.

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So he was sentenced on just this past, like last Monday, December 16th, by United States District Judge Eric Comitee. And he was sentenced to 116 months in prison, almost 10 years. He was sentenced to almost 10 years in prison, nine years and eight months. Holy shit. I'm sorry. I just can't believe that that guy with the YouTube and Samir and Abby and Ozzy Fest and all like he's going to jail.

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well, sentenced for nine plus. He's probably going to serve around six, to be perfectly honest, with good behavior and all that. And he's crying, boo effing who, with now in the media and elsewhere, trying to get people to feel sorry for him. After he did all this stuff, he wasn't some passive victim of Samir. The prosecution proved at trial that he was in on all of it. And of course he would be.

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Look at that email with the CFO. He's on there. You can't claim plausible deniability. The judge actually said that the quantum of dishonesty in this case is exceptional. It's exceptional. And here's more, okay? Before you start to feel sorry for Carlos, which I assume you're not, but he got basically the same time, just a little less than Elizabeth Holmes.

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And the judge understood that comparison and was just fine with it. This is what the prosecution said in their sentencing memo seeking a stiff penalty. This case is unusual for the audacity, the pervasiveness and the length of Watson's fraud, as well as for his obstruction, perjury, repeated attacks on the justice system and complete rejection of any responsibility.

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The memo was particularly harsh toward Watson's character. Quote, the history and characteristics of the defendant also weigh in favor of a serious sentence. He is dishonest. The ease with which he lied to victims again and again, and the ease with which he lied on the stand is frankly dishonest. unsettling. He is manipulative. He is cynical. He is callous.

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There has never been any indication that Watson feels any empathy for any of his victims, people who believed in him, whom he stole from. In most cases, a defendant accepts responsibility.

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Watson has done the opposite, not just fighting his case on the merits, as is his right, but taking every opportunity to obstruct, to retaliate, to undermine the justice system, and to continue lying and breaking the rules. Watson's history and characteristics thus further support a substantial sentence.

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The memo also said that it was fair to compare him to Theranos founder Elizabeth Holmes, who received an 11-year and three-month sentence for defrauding investors of over $100 million. Same number. Although Theranos' product was quite different than Ozzy's, argued the prosecution, the lies that Watson told investors were very similar to those told by Holmes.

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They lied about revenue and contractual relationships to outside investors while silencing or ignoring concerns raised by employees. Both sets of founders fully embodied the fake-it-till-you-make-it approach and used it as a justification for their behavior.

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Like Holmes specifically, Watson played up his image as a charismatic founder, drawing investment to his company based on a success story that he knew was not true, all while actively courting as much press and personal attention as possible. It's really pretty incredible. Think about that. He is dishonest. He is cynical. He is callous. The ease with which he lied is frankly unsettling.

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I wasn't really able to, this was still in our audio only days. I was still in my children's playroom. We've grown since then. And he came on and he was a bit inscrutable, but I tried. Listen,

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A gentleman and a rogue. Maybe that's how he dismisses his own behavior. It's not just being a rogue to steal, to defraud, to impersonate. That's next level. Those are ethical lines. Even your average rogue doesn't cross.

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Once you behave criminally after this society has given you every advantage, you've gone to Harvard, you graduated from Stanford Law where you made the law review, you got onto television, you got hundreds or $800 million of investment.

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from some of the richest Americans alive, believing in you, trying to help you build things like your newsletter, which definitely did not have 20 million subscribers. The most successful have maybe 3 million. All you should be doing is getting down on your knees and thanking this beautiful country of yours and working hard to earn the respect and the belief in the investment of those people.

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Instead, you tried to short track it, to short change your journey to the top. like neither a gentleman nor your average rogue. You know, I think back to my own experience of Carlos Watson and I liked him. Like so many others, he fooled me into thinking he's a nice guy. And I've told you this. I do not have a good, he's actually not a good guy detector. Doug does.

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I really need to listen to Doug, but Doug wasn't really involved in any of this, but I do not. I kind of thought Harvey Weinstein seemed kind of nice. I think I've told you. He wanted Doug to come write for him. And Doug was like, hell no. I'm like, oh, Duggar, that could be cool. He's like, Meg, he's not a good guy. I'm like, oh, I don't know.

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Anyway, there's a long list of people who turned out not to be great that I thought kind of might be. Who knows who's in my life right now, but they say one in four people is a sociopath. One in four. Is this one of them? No empathy for any of the victims? Still, as he's caught and he's sentenced and convicted, saying, poor me, I feel bad for people, including me?

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Do you know if somebody like that is in your orbit, if you're doing business with them, if they're a friend of yours, if they're a family member? Can you really say you don't have a Carlos Watson in your world right now? Can any of us be sure? A gentleman and a rogue. I don't know, Carlos. I think you went well beyond that. that line. And I don't feel sorry for you.

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I feel sorry for the people, even the rich people who gave you their money, believing in you and what you stated was your mission. And I think had you tried harder and longer and been an honest person, you actually, you know, the tragedy here is you might've made it. There actually aren't a lot of people like Carlos in the digital lane doing sort of just straight down the middle news.

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He wasn't left wing. He wasn't woke. He talked about that stuff, but in a very reasonable way. And I think ultimately that product could have prevailed. To quote the brilliant Gordon Ramsay, what a shame. And that, for now, will end the Curious Case of Carlos Watson episode. He remains free at the moment on $3 million bond. He is to surrender to prison on March 28th.

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Any restitution will be determined after a hearing in February. Thank you all for listening. Would love to get your thoughts. The email is megan, M-E-G-Y-N, at megankelly.com. We're back later today with VDH, Victor Davis Hanson. See you then. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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But according to our sponsor, the electronic payments coalition, DC politicians are trying to pass a bill that would lead to the end of credit card rewards. What? They say the Durbin-Marshall credit card bill would mandate credit cards run on alternative networks, not the trusted and stable networks you probably use today.

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Oh, he was telling me something there and I really should have listened. Okay, so that's where we were as of 2021. Then Carlos was running these things called Aussie Fests. And it was like, you know, a big gathering of muckety mucks where you'd get together and have onstage conversations. And there'd be all these well-known people out there.

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And I guess potentially networking opportunities if you're a networker, which I infamously am not. I'm very bad at networking. I'm usually like, I want to go home and be alone. But anyway, he really, really wanted me to go down to where was it, Abby? What city? It was in Florida? No, I think it was, wasn't it like New Orleans? I think it was New Orleans. Okay.

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Anyway, he wanted me to go down to the Southeast and appear at Aussie Fest with him. And he had his right-hand man, Samir, call Abby. And he dealt with Abby a million times saying, please, please, please, can we have Megan? She's like, I don't know. She doesn't really like to do these things, but please, please, please, please, please. Carlos would really be appreciative. Okay.

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So I wound up deciding to do, I, every year I do a girl's trip with two of my closest friends. We've been dear, dear friends for 20 plus years from Chicago. I said, maybe they'll come join me down there. I can make a thing out of it. So that's what our plan was. Andrea and Rebecca were going to join me and we were going to go down to, I think it's New Orleans for the Aussie fest.

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And we were getting right up to it. And Abigail Finan is a nutcase when it comes to confirming my appointments. I mean, she will harass you to like the second I walk on stage to make sure that everything is as it should be in a good way. Not for the person getting targeted, but for me. And... She kept calling Samir and she wasn't getting called back. He'd shoot her a note, whatever.

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It was just kind of weird for an organization that's, you know, supposed to be a professional news organization and independent media company that Carlos has started with this huge YouTube presence and these other shows and so on. And we were getting to the point where I was like, all right, you know, if they don't call us back, I'm not going, it's not really not my problem. It's their problem.

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And then something hit the news that explained why we'd been getting the runaround, okay? It was a New York Times piece. That hit, I think, September 26th, 2021. Okay, September 26th, 2021. So not that long after we'd been on each other's shows and so on. And here's the headline of the New York Times piece. Goldman Sachs, Aussie media, any $40 million conference call gone wrong.

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I'm going to read you some of this piece. This past winter, Goldman Sachs was closing in on a $40 million investment in Aussie, a digital media company founded in 2013. And there seemed to be a lot of reasons to do the deal. Aussie boasted of a large audience for its general interest website, its newsletters, its videos.

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And the company had a charismatic chief executive, Carlos Watson, a one-time cable news anchor, he worked at MSNBC, who had worked at Goldman Sachs early in his career. FYI, he went to Harvard undergrad and Stanford Law School, though it does not appear he practiced law for any meaningful time, if at all.

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And crucially, Ozzy said it had a great relationship with YouTube, where many of its videos attracted more than a million views. All right, I'm going to pause here. So this is all consistent with what I knew of Carlos and Aussie media at that time. And what was happening was Carlos was trying to get another round of funding into his company so he could expand.

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I don't do funding on The Megyn Kelly Show. I never have. I don't take big investments from outside investors to fund my show or my hiring. I have a partnership with Sirius, which has been a blessing and it's worked out amazingly, but I don't go to investors to have them give me their money so that I can put the show on the air. It would create more problems than it would ever solve.

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That's my business model. There are many other places that do take money. I think the Daily Wire, you know, has, I know that they have some investors and that's fine. I'm not criticizing them at all. I'm just saying there's different models. And Carlos was more in that model where he was taking outside investment, trying to grow his company.

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Well, in an effort to do that, he had gone to Goldman Sachs and he had asked for over $40 million. And Goldman Sachs will give you $40 million for your media company if you can show that you are a success and that you're going to make this money plus back for them. They're not in the business of charitable donations. So they were going through this process.

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And one of the things that Goldman Sachs wanted to do before it loaned Carlos or invested in Carlos Watts' company was to see... more about those YouTube numbers because that was really the crux of his success. That's where he was putting all his points on the board. That plus his alleged newsletter, which he was claiming had 20 million subscribers, which is huge, huge.

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Find out more at GuardYourCard.com and consider telling Congress to guard your card and to oppose the Durbin-Marshall credit card bill. Learn more for yourselves at GuardYourCard.com. Let me take you back to episode 103, back in May of 2021, when I interviewed Ozzy, that's Actually, let's go back even further in time. I had no idea who Carlos Watson was back in 2018 or so. I had left NBC.

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So they asked, Goldman did, if they could have a conference call with the YouTube executive responsible for running business with Carlos, for being in business with Carlos, which Carlos said he was with YouTube. Now, normally the way it works on YouTube is you're not in business with them. They have a platform.

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They'll allow you to come on it unless you really screw up over and over, in which case you could get booted. But it's not really a business relationship. in virtually any case, maybe I think they've been trying to get a business relationship with people like Mr. Beast, right?

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He's got 300 million subscribers, but in general, we're all just visitors perched on their platform and they'll allow us to advertise there and to make money there and they make money. But, you know, it's not like they've hired us or they license us or anything like that. So there was a man, is a man, named Alex Piper. I believe it's a man.

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Alex Piper, head of unscripted programming for YouTube Originals. Yeah, it's a man. And so Ozzy and Carlos Watson and Samir said, yeah, we'll put you in touch with Alex Piper, and he will tell you all about how amazing we are on YouTube. Back to the Times article. The scheduled participants included Alex Piper, who was running late for the meeting.

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with Goldman Sachs and apologized to the Goldman Sachs team saying that he had had trouble logging onto Zoom. Keep in mind, this is 2021 still. And he suggested that the meeting be moved to a conference call, according to four people.

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once everyone had made the switch to an old-fashioned conference call, the guest, Alex Piper, told the bankers what they had been wanting to hear, that Ozzy was a great success on YouTube, racking up significant views and ad dollars, and that Mr. Watson was as good a leader as he seemed to be.

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As he spoke, however, this Alex Piper, his voice began to sound strange to the Goldman Sachs team, as though... It might have been digitally altered. After the meeting, someone on the Goldman Sachs side reached out to Mr. Piper, not through the Gmail address that had been provided by... the Aussie team to Goldman Sachs, but through the YouTube executive, Mr. Piper's assistant at YouTube.

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They found another way to go directly to Alex Piper. That's when things got weird, reading here from the Times article. A confused Mr. Piper told the Goldman Sachs investor who was calling that he had never spoken with her before. even though he had allegedly just had a conference call with her about how great Ozzie was and Carlos Watson.

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Someone else, it seemed, had been playing the part of Mr. Piper on the call with Ozzie. This is unbelievable. When YouTube learned that someone had apparently impersonated one of their executives at a business meeting, its security team started an investigation. The inquiry did not get far before a name emerged.

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who is apparently busy defrauding Goldman Sachs. So he couldn't get right back to Abby about my appearance at Aussie Fest. In Carlos Watson's apology to Goldman Sachs and in an email to the New York Times reporter on Friday, Mr. Watson attributed the incident to a mental health crisis and shared what he said were details of Mr. Rao's diagnosis. See, he's gone nuts, is what Carlos said.

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Samir, this is a quote attributed to Carlos, is a valued colleague and a close friend. I'm proud that we stood by him while he struggled, and we're all glad to see him now thriving again. Now, I got to tell you, Abigail Finan and I were like, oh my God. my God. It's like, what? He's in a mental health crisis.

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Like you got to know, like Abby has stalked this man and he has stalked her to try to get me. They've had many correspondence. He did not sound like he was in the middle of a mental health crisis or breakdown. So we are reading this like you've got to be effing kidding me. Right. This is in The New York Times. Like, holy shit. Close friend. He struggled. We stuck by him.

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Then he added that Mr. Rao took time off from work after that call and is now back at Aussie. But it all appears to have just happened. How much time could he have taken off? A few days? This was years ago. What are you talking about? Mr. Rao did not reply to requests for comment. Okay. Now, This is everywhere. This story is everywhere.

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And it's a complete professional embarrassment to Carlos Watson. And it made a lot of news in the cable news industry because it's like, well, this guy used to work for MSNBC. He's making some waves. And now it turns out his company may or may not be a fraud. He may or may not be a fraud. We don't know.

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So he decides to go back home to the NBC universe and he appears on the Today Show, Carlos does, and he appears on CNBC with Andrew Ross Sorkin, who... gets into this call between Samir Rao and Goldman Sachs. Samir, of course, with the voice alteration technology to make himself sound like a YouTube executive. And here's how that went on October 4th, 2021.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. And we are at the FDA today speaking with the new commissioner, Dr. Marty McCary. I got to tell you, it was freaky walking into this building because they've been so demonized.

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And as I recall, they were objecting to certain things that seemed arbitrary, like mandates for children, vaccines for six-year-olds, that kind of thing.

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And how are we going to actually start enacting the Maha agenda that Kennedy and Trump and others have been pushing and talking about for so long when it comes to our food, never mind our drugs. There's a lot to go over, including the corruption that has gone on here for a long time with the revolving door of people

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My guess in knowing you is you want people who welcome that kind of questioning. Let's have more questions. Let's... search that up. Let's run that down. Not somebody who, like we've had, shuts down any questioning that doesn't toe the party line.

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Sorry about that. I'm queuing up a clip because I want to jump back to some reforms you're starting with. And One of the big issues we touched on a minute ago, people like Curtis Wright. He's not the only one to leave the FDA and go right into big pharma. Almost every commissioner does. Scott Gottlieb, he was under Trump. He was the FDA commissioner. Went right off to Pfizer.

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He came on my show and tried to tell me nothing to worry about with any side effects as he's working for Pfizer. It's like, we know we can't trust these people. So... A, what are we going to do about those people? And B, is there anything else we need to worry about? Because it's not just people who are at FDA and leave.

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It's also panels of big pharma representatives who oversee the process as a drug gets approved here at FDA. Those are my two questions. Let me key it. I'm going to show you this clip here.

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Simply how the system works. So is that what what, if anything, is being done about that?

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So that speaks to, it doesn't stop at FDAers leaving and going directly to Big Pharma to work pushing the drugs they just approved while government employees. It's also while the FDA is approving those drugs, Big Pharma right now has a role in pushing for it, in advising the people who are the decision makers. And so on that second piece of it at least, right now you're stopping that.

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How do we stop the first problem with all the FDA commissioners and the top head honchos doing their stint in government service and then going out to work for Big Pharma like they did in the Purdue Pharma case with Curtis Wright and making five times more?

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I have a suggestion for you. If somebody leaves the FDA and goes to work for one of the drug companies, then you should look back to see whether they were involved in approving any of that company's drugs during their tenure over the previous five years. And it should kick in an automatic review on that drug and the approval.

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Right on. And you were confirmed. You're the only Trump nominee that's had as many Democrats cross over to support you. You've gotten more than anybody, I think. Was it 56-44?

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On the food, my daughter turned 14 this past Monday, and I was baking her a cake, and I went, I mean, I just got the Duncan Hines, I'm not gonna lie, I can't do anything from scratch, but then I just took a moment to look at what was in the icing, you know, with which you would use to write happy birthday, Everything in there was red dye number this, yellow dye number that, green dye number this.

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And I thought, this could alternatively read carcinogen X, carcinogen Y. And that's where I drew the line. I'm sure there were tons of seed oils and so on in the cake itself. But my point is, how does that even make its way onto the shelf where the vast majority of people have no idea that all those dyes that are in our food, but not in the Europeans, can cause cancer?

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Before we go to the autism thing, because Kennedy made news on that too, on the drugs, it's fun to demonize drug companies because we're all kind of ticked off, I think, about the COVID vaccines and so on. Not all, but many of us. However... They're not all bad. They do make some drugs that have helped a lot of people. America's drunk on Ozempic.

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But I mean, like there are some actual, you know, serious drugs that can help people. And so one of the concerns behind people who back big pharma is how much is all of this, some of the stuff we're talking about, going to slow down the approval process for new drugs or drugs and testing?

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So here, like all other aspects of government that Trump is taking on, you're saying there's actually too much red tape and we're red taping the wrong things, it sounds like you're saying.

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Yes, there's been definitely there's been pushback on the the number of people who were ousted. I think it was your predecessor who said the FDA, as we know it, is gone, that the experts are gone. People with decades of institutional knowledge have been turfed, suggesting there might now be a safety issue here.

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You have about 18,000 and it's been cut about 3,500 since you and Kennedy got here. So you're saying we had more like 9,000

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And the people who we've gotten rid of, losing them is not going to slow down drug approval or safety procedures because they were, sounds like, more administrative people.

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I mean, you were just on my set and you were just doctor. And now look at you. You could have stayed in the private sector, kept rolling in pretty good money. And you decided to take this job, which is an amazing thing for America. But why?

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Is it swampy here? And by that, I mean, we had a report that when Secretary Kennedy came over and addressed the troops last Friday, some people got up and walked out. They were disgusted by him, which seems like a bad sign.

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Let me get you started with 20% off when you enter MK20 at takelean.com. That's MK20 at takelean.com. Secretary Kennedy said this week that we are going to know what causes autism by September. Is that crazy talk?

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That's what we've been saying. And for the record, you're not saying it, but people are talking in part about vaccines because Kennedy has said it should be on the list of things we look at. Now, his critics will say he's blaming it all on the vaccine. He's blaming autism on the vaccine. I've talked to him personally. That's not what he says. That's not what he's saying at all.

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He says they're growing up in a toxic stew. That's one of the many things, and in particular, like the aluminum that they put in it as a preservative. We should be looking at everything they're consuming and we're forcing on them.

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I've heard you talk many times with me and others about, and this stuck out to me because I had C-sections, but about how vaginal births are in some ways much better for the baby because it will help their microbiome. Like going through the birth canal is very helpful to a baby's microbiome.

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But I was thinking about this because what we have now is a scenario in which C-sections are routinely pushed on mothers because it's easier for the OBGYN. They can schedule their life more easily. The nursing staff supports it. They can get a wink or two, whereas the vaginal birth is a different story, natural, whatever. So the kid comes out without that advantage.

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They've demonized themselves over the whole COVID regime and the craziness of the past five years to walk in here and look around. These are some of the people who participated in this. It's sort of eerie. But The good news is there's a new sheriff in town, and Dr. Marty Makary is the real deal. He's a surgeon, scientist, has devoted his life to public health. He's the son of a doctor.

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Then we're very quick to prescribe antibiotics for young kids. Carpet bombing the microbiome. Over and over, even when they're little. We're not setting them up for success. Then we fill them full of processed foods. Or maybe we give them infant formula that's riddled with processed or seed oils or added sugars that don't need to be there.

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And then we, for a long time, didn't expose them to peanuts or other potential allergens, which made them weaker and more susceptible to these allergies. And then, you know, there's all these antibiotics in foods and estrogen-altering chemicals in foods. And now the child is basically hobbled in a lot of ways through absolutely no fault of their own. And really, the parents either.

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The parents wouldn't have necessarily known not to do that. Your kid has strep. Your doctor says give him antibiotics. You do it. And then on top of that, we've got all these vaccines and we've got all these processed foods and we've got all this weird stuff and, you know, your cow milk. And it's so much. And so it's almost like the system is set up to get your kids sick.

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And then we say, why is everybody getting colon cancer before they turn 25? Right. No one's even taking a hard look at that. Now it seems like for the first time we have a team that's saying, no, we're taking a hard look at all of that.

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Causes and not just possible cures, which often don't turn out to be anything of the sort. So let me start here. You've been here 17 days.

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Is guidance coming out for parents on how to... feed their child in a healthy way, whether, you know, saying this to you before we got started, the American breakfast right now is, you know, especially for kids, cereal, bagels, English muffins, toast, French toast. It's all carbs, Danish, right? It's all starchy carbs. Then God knows what they get at school for lunch.

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And even when you make them lunch, it's hard. You don't know what it's like. Chicken fingers, good or bad? Fried, better than lunch meat, probably. Well, people don't know.

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All right. So what are the biggest things that you've learned so far? What's jumped out at you as a civilian who now suddenly is in government service?

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And I've heard you say before, if you fix your microbiome, you actually might be less hungry, less prone to obesity. Like the things you were talking about are all to set people up for a healthier lifestyle that's a little easier. They may be victims to cravings that were created by this terrible food pyramid and them following the American diet that shoved down our throats.

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Good luck doing that with trans people. OK, a couple of quick things. One of your predecessors here has said you're going to have to expect massive pushback on all of this. Like it might be too pie in the sky that, for example, if we remove all ultra processed foods from school lunch programs, we might bankrupt a bunch of farmers. Like, are we too optimistic?

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And I wanted to go back to the animal testing because this is something near and dear to my heart. I'm a big animal rights person. I do eat meat and animal products and I get letters from PETA all the time. But the animal testing is a heartbreaker. And what Fauci was doing to the beagles is really deeply disturbing.

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And what I never realized until you just said it right now is because they're compliant, which is just... It's so sad.

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So how do you stop that? Can we as humans stay safe in the drugs we consume and the products we consume without torturing sweet little beagles? And I will throw in a word for the bunnies and even the little lab rats, which, you know, animal torture just seems beneath us at this point in our evolution. But you tell me.

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Reduced by a lot? Like almost entirely? With a goal toward hitting entirely or what?

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It feels like you really want to make this a better place for people to work, more collegial, more of a feeling of camaraderie, a shared mission. Is it possible? You know, there are certain government agencies, I'm just going to say it, where they're hard left, they can't stand Trump, and there will be a natural resistance to his appointees trying to do anything to their agency.

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In medicine in general, there's this divide, a push-pull right now between sort of the old school doctors and the new functional medicine doctors, the new MAHA push. And there's some resistance between the two. I don't have to tell you that. Are you seeing any of that reflected here? Do you think the folks here are open-minded to MAHA and functional medicine and doing things a different way?

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My pleasure. Ah, so interesting. I love him. I feel so much better that he's here, right? I feel like we're in good hands. He's got his work cut out for him and we'll stay tuned. We'll keep you updated on what happens over here. Now, in the meantime, I have got to tell you something important before we go. Okay. Everyone loves when Maureen Callahan comes on, including me.

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And I told you the last time she came on that we were going to do... We did this long debrief on the Meghan Markle ridiculousness that on Netflix, her show, you know, showing you really tough things like how to dump pretzels into a bag. That's her new show. Well... We had this idea to do our own version of her show with love.

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I had a naughty word that I was going to use instead, but no, we've done it is my point. Maureen and I have shot our own series and she's going to be on the show tomorrow with the presentation of what we came up with, which I think you're really going to enjoy. Here's just a little sneak peek.

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These are amazing and you're going to absolutely love them. This, we're just gonna put into a different bag.

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Right. We're always so focused on the D, especially on the heels of COVID. And we think of the FDA, most of us, especially on the right, poorly because we feel like we were railroaded and doing things we didn't want to do. And especially, you know, before COVID, there was the opioid crisis and the FDA's role in that. So it has a bad rap, I think, generally with many in the country.

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He's a doctor. He's at the Johns Hopkins Hospital. He was performing surgery right up to the day he went in and started this job the day before. So he's had a lifelong interest in medicine and in public health more generally.

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And he worked here. He authorized Oxycontin. He approved a label that suggested it wasn't really that addictive, if at all. And then after he left here, he went to work for Purdue Pharma, the very company he helped.

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Yeah, it could be any. Like, how do you know if my sleepless night was due to the COVID vaccine or I'm stressed out?

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and has been very honest about things that are controversial like COVID and was an early seer on the things that the medical establishment was doing wrong and was totally fearless in speaking out against it with absolutely nothing to gain and actually a lot to lose. And that is how he became one of the trusted voices along with Dr. Jay Bhattacharya of Stanford, who's running NIH.

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I like the sound of that. One of the questions I had when you were going over like VAERS, which is the vaccine website where you go to upload your negative consequences, people know it from COVID, is aren't those things only as good as the people who monitor them? Because you and I have talked before, we talked throughout COVID with doctors like Vinay Prasad, who's a big fan of yours.

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about the myocarditis that we were seeing, especially in young teenage boys, as a result of the vaccine, especially the second shot and then the boosters. And those things were being uploaded to VAERS, but we weren't getting red alert warnings from the FDA. And so this is one of the reasons people don't trust the FDA. Like there's an agenda.

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They don't want to tell us about this negative side effect because they're much more concerned with forcing us to take the shot.

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But aren't the same people all here who didn't want to know when it was your predecessor and it was the Biden administration?

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And of course, then there's Bobby Kennedy, not a doctor, but a lawyer who is atop them all as he runs HHS. So this is Dr. McCary's first interview as FDA commissioner. And there was a lot to cover. Like, how is he going to deal with the people here who can't stand any of the men I just mentioned, not to mention President Trump?

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Will that happen? Because since Kennedy took over, and FDA is under Kennedy at HHS, people should know. When he took over, a guy named Peter Marks, who was here, it's FDA's former top vaccine regulator, well, he was forced out, reportedly, that you approved it, and then Kennedy said, okay, good, I'm fine, get rid of him.

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And in his resignation letters, his forced resignation reportedly, he said, it's become clear that truth and transparency are not desired by the secretary, but rather he wishes subservient confirmation of his misinformation and lies. He accused Secretary Kennedy of undermining confidence in well-established vaccines. And then he accused Secretary Kennedy of wanting to access and directly edit

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VAERS, which the FDA oversees, saying we don't trust them. He used an expletive. They would write over the data or erase the whole database. So I don't know what he's suggesting here, that Secretary Kennedy would go into VAERS. It seems to me it'd be more like the people who are pushing the vaccines on us who would go into the VAERS database and erase things.

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But you tell me whether Secretary Kennedy and you should have access to VAERS and actually start figuring out whether, I mean, there's still parents who are getting their teenage boys the third, the fourth shot of the COVID vax, not knowing about the myocarditis.

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Under Mr. Kennedy's leadership, HHS is undergoing a major reorganization, urging scientists to challenge conventional thinking and re-examine autism causes long dismissed by the medical establishment. The secretary promising that by September, the agency will begin delivering research on the true causes of autism.

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The IRS whistleblower who accused the DOJ of undermining his investigation into Hunter Biden is now running the tax agency he says was bullied. Gary Shapley on Wednesday named acting commissioner of the IRS. Mr. Shapley first coming forward in 2023, detailing how the Justice Department deliberately slow walked the IRS's Hunter Biden investigation to shield then candidate Joe Biden.

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Mr. Shapley telling Congress that DOJ tax made a concerted effort to slow walk this case so that they could get it into the period in which the DOJ will not bring charges due to its rule of thumb against doing anything that might affect an election. Mr. Shapley, later facing retaliation from IRS officials, told to either accept a demotion or resign.

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If you're tired of giving your money to companies that do not respect your values, consider making the switch. Nimi Skincare, where modern skincare meets timeless values. As Democrats lionize Kilmar Abrego-Garcia, an illegal immigrant and accused MS-13 gang member, the Trump administration highlighting some facts about his past.

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Resisting the pressure, Mr. Shapley, who was running heard on the investigation at IRS, filed a retaliation claim with the Office of Special Counsel, which ultimately ruled in his favor. In June 2023 on The Megyn Kelly Show, Mr. Shapley explaining why he decided to go public.

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And that'll do it for your AM Update. I'm Megyn Kelly. Join me back here for The Megyn Kelly Show, live on SiriusXM Triumph Channel 111 at noon east, on YouTube.com slash Megyn Kelly, and on all podcast platforms.

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Mr. Abrego Garcia currently at the center of a battle between the Trump administration and a district court judge ordering his return to the U.S. from El Salvador. Democrats and members of the media portraying Mr. Abrego Garcia as a Maryland dad wrongfully swept up in a wide-ranging and reckless crackdown on illegal immigration.

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Democrat senator from Maryland, Chris Van Hollen, actually boarding a flight to El Salvador to demand Mr. Abrego Garcia's return.

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New details emerging about the so-called Maryland father portrayed sympathetically in the press, revealing a violent history excluded from the headlines.

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The senator was denied entry to the prison. The DOJ on Wednesday releasing documents supporting claims that Mr. Abrego Garcia was an active member of MS-13 at the time of his March 2019 arrest.

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One record, a Prince George's County police gang interview sheet, describes Garcia as wearing gang-associated clothing, including a hoodie with imagery meant to symbolize see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil. Oh, by the way, he was with two other MS-13 gang members.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Thursday, April 17th, 2025, and this is your AM Update.

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A reliable informant identifying Mr. Abrego-Garcia as an active MS-13 member with the Westerns clique described his rank as Chiqueo and his gang name as Chele. A.G. Bondi also releasing court documents from two immigration judges affirming that the evidence supports Mr. Abrego-Garcia's membership in MS-13. Also coming to light on Wednesday, new details about Mr. Abrego-Garcia's disturbing past.

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The Tennessee Star reporting a troubling incident from December 2022. Tennessee Highway Patrol reportedly stopped Kilmer Abrego-Garcia, immediately suspecting human trafficking. The officer finding Mr. Abrego-Garcia was driving without a valid license, transporting seven passengers from Texas to Maryland.

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He's really twisted himself in knots, but Jeb Osberg does not care. He doesn't care that he was overturned by the Supreme Court. He is only devoted to helping Trump foes and the media.

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One source telling the Star Mr. Abrego-Garcia was on a terror watch list, while another said, no, that was actually just one of his passengers. Cops contacted the FBI, then under Director Christopher Wray, and according to the Star, the FBI instructed the officers to release all eight individuals.

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Additionally, journalist Andy Ngo revealing protective orders sought by Garcia's wife against him in 2020 and 2021. She has been telling the press in recent days that he was the ideal husband and father. Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt addressing the details of that 2021 protective order at a press briefing.

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In an extraordinary moment yesterday, Ms. Leavitt then stepping aside and giving the microphone to someone she said the press has ignored for too long, Patty Marin, the mother of Rachel Marin. On Tuesday, Rachel's killer, also an illegal immigrant from El Salvador, was convicted on all four charges, including rape and murder.

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Rachel was jogging on a popular trail in Maryland when her life was brought to an unthinkable end. Patty Moore and her mom gave never-before-revealed details of her daughter's final moments. And a warning, the details are graphic. He waited for her to come closer.

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Reporter Julie Kelly joins us with an exclusive breakdown of Judge Boasberg's new ruling accusing the Trump administration of defying his court order. RFKJ breaks with the CDC calling autism an epidemic and vowing to uncover the cause. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update. Now more than ever, it's important to shop with brands that share your values.

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Ms. Marin's remarks leaving the briefing room in stunned silence. Those remarks ending with a powerful plea.

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On Wednesday, U.S. District Court Judge James Boasberg ruling there is probable cause to charge members of the Trump administration with criminal contempt, accusing officials of violating a court order when they failed to return two planes of Venezuelan nationals who were deported under the Alien Enemies Act. The dispute stemming from a verbal directive Boasberg gave from the bench.

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demanding that the planes be turned around midair. That piece of the order was not included in a later written directive issued after the planes were out of U.S. airspace. Judge Boasberg writing, quote, The contempt finding comes despite the fact that the U.S.

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Supreme Court has already ruled against Judge Boasberg in this case, finding that the matter was filed in the wrong court, meaning Judge Boasberg lacked the authority to issue the restraining order in the first place. We spoke with Julie Kelly, who's been covering this case. She's a reporter for Declassified on Substack. She says Judge Boasberg is way out of bounds.

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I mean, it's sort of fascinating to read this 46-page opinion that Judge Bosberg issued and still arguing that somehow these temporary restraining orders that have been vacated by the Supreme Court last week are somehow still in play and can be the basis for a criminal contempt investigation into Trump officials. He is citing certain case law. Now, none of it deals with the very delicate

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balance between the judiciary and executive branch, but he claims that any court order, regardless of its ultimate fate, and in this case, two written orders overturned by the Supreme Court, still have to be abided by as it's headed towards the appellate and then Supreme Court level. So That's sort of stunning. I'm not really sure how the Supreme Court is going to respond to this.

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Of course, obviously, the Trump DOJ is going to immediately appeal this.

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Judge Bosberg warning the DOJ that if it does not enforce his now vacated order to get those planes back, the court will identify the Trump officials responsible and recommend that they be prosecuted for contempt. He says if the DOJ refuses to pursue the case for criminal contempt against the Trump administration, he will appoint another prosecutor to do it. More from Julie Kelly.

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Jeff Bosberg has saying, well, if the DOJ refuses won't pursue criminal charges for contempt, then he will appoint, the court can appoint an attorney to do just that. And this is what Jeb Bosberg has just threatened in this order as well. Even more stunning is that he says the way to remedy any contempt investigation or charges is to abide by his temporary restraining order,

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to return these Venezuelans who were on those two planes on March 15th. But that temporary restraining order is null and void because it's been vacated by the Supreme Court. So he's really twisted himself in knots. But Jeb Bosberg does not care. He doesn't care that he was overturned by the Supreme Court.

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He is only devoted to helping Trump foes and the media and the Democrats seed this idea that Donald Trump and his White House are routinely in violation of court orders. So not really sure where this is going to go from here.

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He gave some deadlines for next week, but he's also threatening that he will hold more hearings, seek witness depositions, and take other steps to advance this contempt investigation.

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The White House filing an appeal of that contempt order on Wednesday evening. White House Communications Director Stephen Chung posting to X, quote, the president is 100% committed to ensuring that terrorists and criminal illegal migrants are no longer a threat to Americans and their communities across the country.

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Coming up, RFKJ breaks with the CDC calling autism an epidemic and vowing to uncover the cause. And one of the IRS whistleblowers who revealed the DOJ bullied the IRS to stymie the tax investigation into Hunter Biden. is now running the tax agency. The IRS is the largest collection agency in the world. And with April 15th fast approaching, it's more aggressive than ever. Oh, joy.

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The study finding 1 in 31 children now diagnosed with autism. That's up from 1 in 10,000 in the early 1990s. The CDC suggesting the rise is due to improved identification and broader awareness. noting, quote, research has not demonstrated that living in certain communities puts children at greater risk for developing ASD.

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Differences in the prevalence of children identified with ASD across communities might be due to differences in availability of services for early detection and evaluation and diagnostic practices. RFKJ pushing back on that, calling autism an epidemic, arguing that better diagnostic tools alone do not explain such a dramatic surge.

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Since taking over HHS, RFKJ making food safety a top priority, highlighting thousands of chemicals in the U.S. food and drug supply that are banned in Europe. Secretary Kennedy saying genetics may play a role in autism, but insisting it is only part of the story.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. More of President-elect Donald Trump's top cabinet nominees are on Capitol Hill today. After Attorney General nominee Pam Bondi's dominating performance yesterday, she crushed it. We will bring you more of those highlights.

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And it kind of is revealing about one of the things he hates about these tech so-called oligarchs in Sat-10.

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Okay, just for those of you playing at home, that was editors are disappearing. Errors are disappearing. It was editors, I guess you say. So he's lamenting, in essence, the Facebook change in policy, the meta change in policy, Kevin, saying we're not gonna be doing fact-checking anymore. Elon Musk leaves it up to community notes.

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Zuckerberg is gonna be doing that as well, something akin to that he has said. And he, as the man behind the pressure campaign to get them to do what he wanted during COVID and around his son's laptop, is, I think, feeling genuine sadness that they're no longer going to listen.

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Anna Kasparian is a host and producer of The Young Turks, who's been making headlines for calling out her own side recently. And Kevin Madden, I guess, Kevin, it's your first on this program, but you've been on my shows many times. He's a Republican strategist and senior partner at the Penta Group. Here's a shocking truth about New Year's resolutions.

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There's no come to Jesus, Anna. It's like Zuckerberg was on with Rogan a week ago talking about the bullies in the White House who tried to make them censor people's discussions, in particular during COVID, around vaccine side effects, which are real. It's a real issue.

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Not everybody on Earth suffered them, but a significant enough portion, especially teenage boys, that it was absolutely criminal to— not to let this discussion flow freely and doctors speak freely about it. And here's Zuckerberg talking about the Biden administration and vaccine side effects in SOP 14 on Rogan.

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That's crazy. And now he has the nerve to get up there and say, we're going in a dark period where misinformation is going to run wild.

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Can I just ask you guys about Zuckerberg for a minute? Cause I, we haven't gotten to this, his appearance on Rogan yet on this show. And I do wonder like, okay, it's a new administration. Trump's in power. I get it. He wants to be cozying up to the president who's in power. That makes sense to me for some of this turnaround that he's purporting to have made. But for me, Facebook is very dated.

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Facebook is not the cool, hip app that young people are turning to at all. When I first started at Fox 20 years ago, Rupert had just bought MySpace and there was a question back then, which one will prevail, MySpace or Facebook? And I mean, then Facebook had its apex and it's long past that now, right? Now it's something older people use to share photos and updates on their lives.

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But the younger people are on Snap and they're on TikTok and they're to some extent on Insta, but it's not really Facebook. And I realize Meta also owns Insta. But my point is like, How much do you think Zuckerberg is worried that his photo-sharing family update piece of his platform is quickly becoming obsolete?

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And the one thing that was making him good money and that was doing really well, he killed, which was the news feed. He killed it for the reasons you just outlined, Anna. And now he's looking at this saying, holy shit, I had a viable business model. It was with conservatives. They were the ones who were dominating his platform when he came to news sharing. Not entirely, but they were dominating.

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And if I am smart, I will go back to them on bended knee and say, I'm sorry I censored you. I got rid of news. And I'm sorry I spent $425 million to elect Joe Biden. Kevin, thoughts?

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I've got to say, I have nothing against Mark Zuckerberg, but it's... somewhat galling to listen to him. Hello.

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There are many of us in the country who have been saying that for decades now, and you've been stifling us, you know, I mean, especially conservatives, his platform has been stifling conservative speech from the, I'm sure the very people he's referencing there as these breaths of fresh air. Oh, well, if only we could have heard from them earlier. Why didn't we? I have some thoughts, Mark.

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It's fine. No, I get what you're saying. He's welcome aboard the free speech train, but I, forgive me if I want to spend a few minutes, you know, I don't wanna say rubbing his nose in it, but like, hello, he was wrong. He was 100% wrong in what he did. And it was un-American. It was really un-American what he and the Biden administration were doing on the stifling of speech.

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And I would have liked Anna to have heard more of a mea culpa. I was really wrong and I'm really sorry. And I was 100% hashtag part of the problem. Before we get to the healing phase,

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It was amazing to hear some of those lies repeated at the Senate confirmation hearing of Pam Bondi yesterday where they were trying to suggest that, you know, would you as attorney general enforce an order or maybe no, it was Hegseth. Would you enforce an order to send the military in against President Trump's enemy from within?

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Like, OK, you've conflated so many different remarks that Trump made there. He did say enemy within. He did not say he would unleash the military on the enemy within, which is a political body or animal or opponent that he doesn't like. Um, but what he said was asked by Maria Bartiromo was if things get crazy around the election and we have mass riots, would you bring in the military?

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And in that context, he said, yes. And even it's, it's turned into like this, a Senate question that has to be asked of all the nominees, whether they'll do it. It's a lie. It is divisive.

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And it's probably one of the reasons that Anna's listeners or some of them think Trump might show up with, you know, it is a machete and a Marine to arrest them if they voted for Kamala, which is not what's going to happen.

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All right. He's changed all the conversations we're having in this country versus where we were 10 years ago. All right. Let me spend some time on the nominees because I do think it's very interesting what's happening on Capitol Hill. And we left off yesterday with Pam Bondi, who was on the hot seat while we were on the air. And it didn't get any nicer for her after we went off the air.

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Yeah. I mean, Kevin, my God, we go way back, but I guess it's the first time on this particular platform. So great to see you again. And Anna, I've been watching your evolution and you're sort of speaking out about your ideas with great interest. It's been... It's been very interesting.

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But she handled herself so beautifully. I mean, like a pro, it's very hard to shake a seasoned lawyer with honesty. your purported tough cross-examination. A lot of these lawmakers on Capitol Hill are, in fact, lawyers. Most of the ones who were questioning yesterday didn't seem like they were. I'll put it that way. And she just, like a boss, was in there. I was very impressed by her.

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I've known her for a long time, but she was at her best. And here are a couple of examples. Here she is with Senator Alex Padilla of California, Democrat, holding her ground and sought one.

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That was good. Okay, just started setting the ground rules like I'm here and I'm not a pushover. Here's the second one. Same two. Watch. Same two people.

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I feel like in some ways I experienced something similar myself where I was certainly more, I think, on the left 10 years ago than I am now, for sure. I would never have described myself as a liberal past like college. But I see what you're going through. And I think a lot of people can relate to where it's like you just get so aggravated with shit breaking down that you believed in.

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Mm hmm. But they they know that the media won't do that because she's a Republican, but also because she was so solid, like she was unbullyable, which is lovely to see. I have to say, after watching the Democratic female senators at the Hegseth hearing on Monday, it was a delight or whatever that day Tuesday was.

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It was a delight to see a strong, smart, composed woman being on the hot seat and handling herself like a professional, which is what the vast majority of women behave like. Not like the hysterics we saw on Tuesday. What? you said was mean. Yeah, those remarks are very hurtful. Like, what did you do to your U.S. senator? Stop talking about people's feelings for the love of God.

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So I will answer. I, I had, I actually didn't really have a problem with the questions themselves that she asked. I didn't really agree with the premise because I do understand what's Pete, what Pete's position has been having listened to it a long, long time for many, many years. It's not about women in general. It is about, we just can't lower standards.

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And her response, which is, which was, we haven't like, give me specific examples where we have, that was totally fair game. It was a good response. What? And he had an answer to it, but What I objected to with her was the nature of the delivery, the hysterics.

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She sounded, I cringe when our fellow women who make their way into these halls of power behave like the hysterical women many men still believe they always are. Like, would you keep it together for the love of God? Like, she was shouting. I was in the room and she was like, what you said is hurtful. It's mean. Yeah. her facial expressions looked like she was losing it.

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She looked overly emotional, playing right to stereotype. And it was unbecoming. And then you went down the line, it just got worse. She was the best of the Democrats, but it just got worse. I mean, Hirono was a nightmare. Tammy Duckworth, who you'd think would have been the most composed, I mean, an actual soldier who'd been in war. No, no, she wasn't.

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So a lot of what I objected to was there, you don't hear men behaving like that. And we really need to like, Be a little bit more professional. You can punch as hard as you want to with the rhetoric and the words, but keep your tone, the nasal nature of the comments, the facial expressions, the near tears look that the un-Botoxed eyebrows will allow. Those are bad.

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You feel like you have no choice, but you just start calling it out. So I guess that's a fine place to start. Do you want to explain to the audience who hasn't seen you on like Glenn Beck or elsewhere kind of where you are? Because most people know you as part of the Young Turks, which is a left-leaning podcast. It's very successful, but it's certainly not center or center-right.

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Yeah. You cheated on your wives. Oh, like, okay. Um, I want to say this having practiced law for many years and sat in the Supreme court as a correspondent for three, they should be more like the Supreme court justices who disagree vehemently, but it's almost never 1% of the time. Maybe if that, maybe not, maybe I'm being ungenerous. Do you ever hear hysterics?

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from the left or the right, from the women or the men. The women on this US Supreme Court, far left though they may be, Sotomayor, Brown-Jackson, they don't behave that way. They maintain their composure and their dignity, and they can slice and dice with the best of them. And I realize they have a different audience they're trying to persuade, which is most of the righties down the way.

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But and there to your point, Anna, that these women were trying to get soundbites that would be energetic or motivating or soothing in some way to their base to make headlines to womankind suffers when they behave like the hysterical 50s housewives who men would rush to drug up when they behave that way. OK, let's move on because I want to play you another soundbite. Yeah. Where did it go?

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All right, Anna, what I see there is a page out of the Kayleigh McEnany book. Remember when Trump went through all these press secretaries and he settled on Kayleigh McEnany, who was young, like sort of an ingenue, recently out of Harvard Law and had spent some time at CNN. And she got up there and turned the tables inside that press briefing room where she would attack Trump.

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They really are highlights. It's like these nominees are changing the game on how this whole thing is done. There's no genuflecting. There's no kissing of the ring. These Democrat senators... They don't need their votes. They don't go in there trying to be rude or looking for a fight. But if you're going to treat them like shit, which is clearly what's happening, they're going to fight back.

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the press and Republicans hate the press. So it was absolutely risk-free for her and it worked. It worked really well. Trump loved it. Republicans enjoyed it. People started watching the briefings again. They got eyes like I'm seeing this pattern now with Bondi a little bit with Pete.

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Um, they've been nice to Marco Rubio, but there's like, this is an effective tactic that most importantly, I think the boss enjoys.

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All right, I'm going to shock the world right now and defend Adam Schiff, not in response to what you just said, but in response to the heat he's getting for the following clip, SOT7.

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I defend Adam Schiff because these confirmation hearings are boring. We put the highlights on TV, but having just sat through the one on Tuesday and that was the spiciest of them all. They're boring. It's hard. And I even said to one of the senators after the fact, I'm like, God, that's boring. And this person said to me, normally we don't sit in there the whole time.

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They said we all just sat in there because there were so many people and this was an exciting one and we knew it was going to be spicy. But normally we just do our part and we get out of there because, Kevin, it's boring.

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Who could blame him? She was asleep half the time her last couple of years on the bench.

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All right. So final question before I let you go, we got a minute left. Do any one of these nominees get stopped? Is there a single nominee who's not going to get through Kevin and then Anna?

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I got you. Although I will point out that Barack Obama became our commander in chief after being a community organizer. So it's like, It's all relative. I think you're right. They're all getting through. And I think that's a good thing. And if they stink, we've got the firer in chief in the Oval Office. He loves to fire people. He's proven he'll do it over and over. So we've got that fail safe.

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And if you get a post-purchase survey, tell them you heard about Cozy Earth from The Megan Kelly Show. Don't wait. Head to CozyEarth.com slash Megan now and use code Megan, M-E-G-Y-N for up to 40% off. Well, the inauguration of Donald Trump is next week. It's down to days now. Can you believe it? That we will finally be saying goodbye to Joe Biden and hello again to Mr. Trump.

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And the left is melting down over Carrie Underwood accepting an invitation to perform at the inauguration. Meantime, Jill Biden, that's Dr. Jill for those of you playing at home. takes the first shot at Nancy Pelosi. Well, I mean, the first shot publicly.

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I do believe Nancy fired the first shot at them in a Washington Post exit interview that will make your stomach turn, but also has some interesting things in it. Joining me now to discuss it all, Amala Epinobi, host of the Amala Epinobi podcast, and Link Loren, former senior advisor to RFK Jr. and social media influencer. Welcome back, guys. Great to see you. I love

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There's so much to go over here. I love the Dr. Jill sit down piece with the Washington Post. This is how it begins. Okay. Hold on. I got to put on my glasses because the print is so teeny tiny. It says, okay, the first lady says she's at peace with this ending, but this is in quotes. Let's just say I was disappointed with how it unfolded. Why? I don't know. I learned a lot about human nature.

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There are scores of relationships, good and bad, that pinwheel outward from her marriage, in which Jill is the keeper of the family grudges. Quote, you said that. I didn't. She interrupts laughing. I don't think I said that, continues the writer. She did, in fact, say that. And then, quoting Jill, Joe has an incredible capacity to forgive, and he's incapable of holding a grudge. End quote.

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This is what Jill wrote in her 2019 memoir. But that means I end up being the holder of grudges, the one who recalls every slight committed, every slight committed against the people I love. Which brings us to Nancy Pelosi, whom Jill has known as long, nearly as Joe. Her face, nearly pearlescent with lustrous foundation, betrays no particular emotion.

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She's holding a China cup tea with honey and lemon. It's been on my mind a lot lately. And Jill pauses. We were friends for 50 years. She's using her teacher's voice now. It was disappointing. So they're not loving Nanpel. And who could blame them? But Joe Biden, he holds no grudges whatsoever, Amala. Fear not. It's just Dr. Jill.

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To me, Link, the fact that they continue, magazine after magazine, newspaper after newspaper, trying to convince us of Jill Biden's just preternatural beauty and fashion sense. I'm sick of it. This is a pattern with her. Honestly, they have her on Vogue like she truly is some supermodel. They never put Melania on there. So it's like, can you stop with the pearlescent beauty?

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Yeah, because she wanted access to power. And that's why she's so super upset with Nancy Pelosi. All right. So Nancy Pelosi, speaking of, is not going to be at the inauguration on Monday. We don't know why. Are you more sad that she won't be there, Link, or Michelle Obama? Which one will you miss more?

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It would have been ill-timed if she had planned to go to the inauguration to schedule it right before J20. It would have.

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Oh, okay. Well, the whine continues to tine and we'll continue to watch it. But the big inauguration news today is not Pelosi. Yesterday it was Michelle. It's Carrie Underwood. And... Apparently, she's losing all sorts of fan groups. The LGBTQ community in particular, I guess, is very upset about the fact that she's agreed to sing at the inauguration. And she's saying, I love my country.

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I think this is a great chance to express that love and participate in a moment of unity. Her leftist base is not having it, Amala.

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No, here's what she said to TMZ. I love our country and I'm honored to have been asked to sing at the inauguration and to be a small part of this historic event. I am humbled to answer the call at a time when we must all come together in the spirit of unity and looking at the future. She will be performing America the Beautiful. It's like, great. That's what performers do.

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And the inauguration is not just for Cora Maga, Link. It's for all of America. Why would she say it's the fact that she doesn't hate him? And by the way, she's actually made fun of him in the past. We don't know what her politics are when it comes to Trump, because even some Republicans historically have not liked him. We don't know what her feelings are.

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But why wouldn't she take this amazing performative opportunity on behalf of the country to try to unify some?

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This is what Rolling Stone is reporting, that this cohort of queer fans of Underwood have spent more than a decade believing the singer supported them. Now they're in the midst of unraveling what it means to be suddenly shocked into a reality that does not align with their own. Fan accounts dedicated to Underwood have continued to voice their disappointment in her decision.

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While I will always love and support Carrie, this account will not be covering her upcoming appearance at Trump's inauguration, nor any other comments or appearances she makes in support of this convicted felon.

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The Carrie Underwood UK account shared with its 14,000 followers on X. Other social media users are encouraging listeners who are removing Underwood from their playlists to tune into other artists with more outspoken track records, I think, on LGBTQ or anti-Trump matters.

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If you need another female country artist that actually gives a shit about society and women, I present to you Casey Musgraves and Maren Morris, one ex-post-red. Time and time again, they explicitly support what's right and publicly reject racist, homophobic BS.

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I mean, that's actually surprising to me in country music, Amala, that you've got these two who I don't really know them or what their social media posts are, but that even country is getting divided in the way the rest of the actual country, America is.

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Yeah, and by the way, she hasn't even expressed one. She's literally just going to sing America the Beautiful. So calm down. It's ridiculous. Here is the view, Link, weighing in. I know you were waiting to hear what Whoopi Goldberg had to say, and I have it for you. Take a listen. We all were.

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I mean, of course she has the right to do it. What an inane point to bring them all together. She's saying absolutely nothing. And those two cretins at the top, Joy and Sonny, it's a hard no. And how can she go perform at the inauguration of a convicted felon? You can see they just keep wrapping that around themselves, Link, like a lovely little snuggle blanket that a three-year-old uses.

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Yeah, he's gotten angrier and angrier. And one of the things that was weird about him during the cross-examination is he kept like sinking further in his seat. Like for the listening audience, I'm going down now. You can only see the top of my head at my desk. He kept slinking down. It was like the lower he went physically is the lower he went rhetorically.

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And he just looked like a little, like a rat, you know, in the corner, like low and small and the angry eyebrows and, you know, the performance matched it.

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Yeah, there were marches of a couple hundred Navy SEALs through Washington in support of Pete. I don't remember ever seeing that. I mean, like, that's what I think got Joni Ernst in the end. Pete met with her repeatedly. To her credit, she took those meetings. But I believe Joni Ernst when she says, and she said it a long time, that she listens to the rank and file.

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That's whose opinion she's most interested in on military matters. And I believe those men and women spoke to her and she heard them. So good for them because I think they made a difference. Okay, moving on. Amala, are you from L.A.? Because I know you've been out there and you've been helping those who have been hurt by the devastation.

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Okay, so were you or were you not thrilled to see Meghan and Harry show up and offer their support and help, heartfelt, sincere help? Yes.

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Did you make sure that you were caught by the cameras when you went to help? Did you make sure that your name got in the press?

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If it's not documented, it didn't happen. What we've now established is that Amala is the nicest of the three of us because I know you and I are more like-minded about this visit.

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Now they're saying it was only pushed back to March, which is shocking because that's way too soon. Good luck to her. She's already battling record low approval ratings. Releasing a show about her fabulous life in Montecito in her mansion and how to create lovely home events when her city is in ashes. In March, nothing will have been rebuilt, never mind even cleaned up.

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And she's going to be out there in the flowing gown in the middle of her mansion like, oh, let me show you the perfect tea and champagne combo. Good luck, sister. That's not going to go well. I do want to say this. The Post, New York Post reports that they were offended by Justine Bateman calling them disaster tourists.

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The Post reports, quote, it's offensive to Meghan and Harry that anybody would think this is merely a photo op. A source exclusively tells Page Six, which is obviously Meghan. They have dedicated... countless hours to volunteering long before the media even caught wind of their involvement, the source tells us. And of course, Bateman had tweeted out they're ambulance chasers.

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This is a repulsive photo op. They're touring the damage. Are they politicians? They don't live here. They're tourists, disaster tourists. So, uh, we'll see whether they actually don't drop that Netflix show because I just, I don't see how they can possibly do it in the wake of one more thing about Harry and Megan.

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So interesting. I mean, I just feel like we've heard so much of that kind of messaging, especially from the left. The right had its big breakup when Trump was elected in 16. And it was fierce and it was ugly. And now there's been a resettling, I think, as he's come into office, coming into office for the second time. And the left is having a lot of defectors, it seems to me, as of late.

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She's been amazing. Justine's been spectacular. If you don't follow her on X, you absolutely should. No, you're exactly right. The people of California have suffered enough. They don't need these two adding to their troubles. Who wants to see them? And by the way, if I were like a man and Meghan Markle came over to hug me, I'd be worried. These two are so sue happy.

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I'd be like, next thing she's going to say, me tutor. Don't say anything to Harry because he's definitely going to sue you for defamation, claiming that you said something that was untrue about him. Like they are sue happy. They are what we call vexatious litigants. So I would say as far away from those two.

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If I were a property owner and they were on my property, burned or not, I'd be like, oh my God, don't let them slip and fall. They'll sue me even though my house is in ashes. I just, it's very dangerous. Stay away from them. That's the only possible route forward. All right, speaking of the LA Fires, I didn't get to this yesterday because we had breaking news about Israel.

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But Karen Bass, you knew it was going to happen eventually that the pictures of her in Ghana would get released. And they did not disappoint. She was having a grand old time as her city was burning. And she was actually asked after the fact. We'll put the pictures up in a second. But she was here. Look at her. Here she is chit-chatting away in an absolutely lovely suite.

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I mean, I don't know exactly. I am told that she was there. Hold on. I want to find my notes. That's the king of Ghana that we see her with. Oh, I can't find my notes, but his name is like Tikotika Taki. It's like Tiki Taco Tuka. I can't remember what it is, but she was having a great time with this man. instead of flying back to L.A.

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And now, now somebody asked her, do you regret going to Ghana when, like, the National Weather Service was jumping up and down saying you're going to have devastating winds, these actually are going to be really dangerous? And here's what she said.

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No, no regrets being with King Tacky Tiki Truro II, Tacky Tiki Truro II of Ghana. No problems whatsoever and no regrets at all. The insensitivity of it, Link, is stunning.

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Okay, we lost Amo's fee, but we're trying to fix it. So stand by, we will get her back. No, I think it's actually outrageous. And I have to tell you a fun story though about Ghana. My brother has run a number of companies and one of his big companies, there was a guy who kept missing work. And my brother sat him down and said, like, you can't, you know, Sick leave is fine.

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Maybe it's because they're looking at things a new way. Maybe it's because some of them are excited about this very interesting Trump coalition situation.

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Some family leave, I get it. But like, you can't just keep missing work. You got to show up at the office more regularly. And the guy said, well, you know, what about, I don't know what the guy's name was, Joe. Joe, he keeps missing work all the time. And it turns out that Joe, who worked for my brother, this is years ago, was the youngest son of the King of Ghana.

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And the tradition in Ghana is that the youngest son has to be the one to go take care of the King of Ghana if he's ill. And so my brother looked at the first guy and he said, He is the youngest son of the king of Ghana. You are not. So you do have to be here. And sorry. I mean, I would understand if Joe were in Ghana taking care of, again, King Takitiki Truru II. That I would understand.

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You know, or maybe some like the Biden thing, I think, really did hurt on the left more than people realize, like the lies people knew that you can't look at him and tell me this is the best Joe Biden ever and then ask me to continue believing you. OK, but let's well, let's start with Biden, because he's in the news after his big farewell address last night.

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But Karen Bass did not need to be there. And the fact that she's out there, like, no, I don't regret going, is an absurdity that I think will come back to haunt her. Amala, your thoughts?

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Here's what's really galling. You've got MSNBC's Alex Wagner, and she's not the only one, out there trying to make it sound like it's conservatives who are making an issue of the gender or DEI status of these firefighters, etc. Like that it's conservatives who have brought up, for example, the lesbianism of the top three fire officials in the LAFD. Take a listen here, SOT25. Mm-hmm.

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Link, this is infuriating. There isn't a conservative who wants to talk about the sexual preferences of the fire chief. Not a single person. No one. She wanted to talk about it, which is the reason we are reacting to her making it a thing.

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It's amazing how they do this every time, Amala. They make identity an issue in the first line of the bio, in the case of the LAFD, but so many videos that they've put out pushing how they have too many white men and they need more diversity and they need more women and yay, yay, I'm a lesbian, as if anybody cares who she's sleeping with, nevermind her second and third in command.

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Kevin, John Podoretz, who hosts a podcast and commentary magazine and runs commentary magazine and used to be a presidential speechwriter for Reagan and beyond. said it's the worst presidential address he's ever heard in his life. He said it was the number one least effective, most painful speech he's ever heard. He said the first half, in his view, was written by AI.

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And then when conservatives, after a massive disaster, and by the way, it's not just the right. There are many people who are like, why has this been such an issue? Why did taxpayer dollars go to this instead of filling the hydrants? Then they say, oh, it's a conservative pound situation. Well, look what the conservatives care about.

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They want to talk about the color or the gender or the sexual orientation of the people involved here. No, that's not how it went down.

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Yeah. And that Schellenberger was pointing out that, okay, so they had to make repairs to the cover, which is why it was emptied. Why did they have to make it during peak fire season? Why couldn't they wait until we weren't in peak fire season? Like how grossly irresponsible these, there are unquestionably management issues fall downs left and right when it comes to what happened out there.

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And eventually they will be held to account. I know on this subject of look at me, look at me, I'm this, I'm a first this, I'm a first that. We have to say goodbye to Karine Jean-Pierre. I am sorry, guys, but she's going. It's like this is the way it's going to, you know, it's the one sadness of Trump winning because let's face it, we're going to miss her a little bit.

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Like, I mean, I kind of missed her word salads. In fact, I'll start with the word salads just so you two will be feeling the pangs that I've been feeling. Here's a little montage of some of the best slash worst of Karine Jean-Pierre at the podium. Great.

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Okay, we could have kept going because let's not forget when he thought that the dead congresswoman was alive. Where's Jackie? She was just top of mind. She was top of mind. That's what Karina Jumper tried to tell us. And the obsessive note reading, right? She could not do the job without reading for the first two years of it. She got a little better on that towards the end.

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And the second was written by somebody who did policy back in 1975, who must be on the Biden staff. But he was completely underwhelmed. What did you think?

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Her closing message, Amala, is I hope you've found me as inspirational as I find me and that the little girls of America look up to me.

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They're going to stand their ground. And I am loving it. It comes as President Joe Biden bid farewell to the White House finally and his 50 year political career from the Oval Office by talking about his huge account. No, by mumbling about Elon Musk. 50 years in office, and it comes down to Elon Musk. But don't worry, part two is tonight, where he sits down with the venerable...

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I mean, of course, what she's referring to, Link, is the fact that she's black and she's a lesbian. Like this is what the left celebrates. That's that's her history making role that she hopes everybody will find inspirational. Like like lesbian children were growing up all over the country thinking I'm never going to be press secretary because I'm a lesbian. I mean, so what are we in 1950? Right.

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It's amazing how little she obviously knows. I don't think she knows that Nobel is a proper noun, that it's a man. It was an actual person. It was a family. And I think she thinks it's actually like a noble. It's a prize for being noble. We're noble people.

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I don't think she knows. She said it over and over and over. Like how humiliating, right? Anyway, okay, quick pause. We'll be back in one minute and I'm going to get Link's take on Mike Pence attacking RFKJ. All right, stand by for that. I'm Megyn Kelly, host of The Megyn Kelly Show on Sirius XM.

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So, Link, you've worked for RFKJ and you are going to be very distressed to learn that a major adversary has emerged to his confirmation. He used to be the vice president of the United States under Donald Trump. And his name is Mike Pence. His organization, Advancing American Freedom, is calling for senators to vote against RFKJ's nomination for health and human services secretary.

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over his past support for abortion access. The letter criticized Kennedy as being pro-abortion, this is via Politico, specifically over his past support for abortions later in pregnancy. This position is, quote, completely out of step with the strong pro-life record of the first Trump administration. Are you shaking in your boots? I mean, this is a powerful adversary.

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RFKJ is becoming like a superhero. I mean, he's got like- Superstar. He's one of those people who like, now he walks into an airport and everybody's like, I mean, he was persona non grata two years ago. You couldn't even platform him anywhere. And like the transformation has been absolutely remarkable.

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And akin to what we discussed yesterday about how great things are already starting to happen just with the anticipation of Trump being sworn in, like the deal between the Israelis and Gaza, like, according to Pete, already seeing recruiting numbers go up in the armed forces. Yeah. like the Protection of Women and Girls in Sports Act passing in the House.

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Things are already starting to go in the right direction. We got another, it's a smaller piece, but as a mom myself, I love it, where the FDA has now banned red dye number three from foods. Right. They had it banned from makeup because they recognized it was a carcinogen, but not from foods. What sense does that make? And I have to say, I'll just stick with you on this link since you work for RKJ.

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It's another thing that he's been jumping up and down about, but people have been dismissing him as a kook. And now what do you know? The FDA comes around to see it his way.

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No, now they're going to have to find something else to color the cough syrup like beets the way they do in Europe, something edible that doesn't cause cancer. This is why I think it's so interesting, Amala, as we get ready for the RFKJ confirmation hearing.

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that the Democrats are in a tough spot because, first of all, his positions, when actually explained, are going to be very popular, very popular with most Americans when they actually hear him. And second of all, there is not a more effective advocate for said positions than this man. who is extremely articulate, and there's no one who will be better prepared.

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He has 70 years of living each one of these issues and debating them in courts, in legal papers, with his critics, his harshest critics. He's not like a Democrat behind closed doors who never has to engage. So it's going to be actually, I think, potentially explosive and highly entertaining for the rest of us.

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So I do want to tell the audience that after Casey Means came on the show and I read her amazing book, Good Energy, and she and Callie Means are working with RFKJ on a lot of things. We did do what she recommended, which was get a carbon filter for our entire house. If you have a big water tank in your basement or whatever, they basically just have to replace it with one that has a carbon filter.

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And so it's big. You have to get one of those and it filters the water. But then on top of that, out of the drinking faucet, the main drinking faucet in the kitchen, we didn't do it on every... Every sink. We got an RO filter. So the water that we drink, you know, most of the time we drink out of some other faucets too, also goes through the RO filter. And the water is so clean and tastes so good.

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And it gets rid of soot. so many bad things that are in your water. I don't want fluoride in my water. And my friends at the fifth column mocked RFKJ for that. And I said, you just wait. It actually is a neurotoxin. Why is it in our way? We don't need it in our water. I think it's going to come out of the water and it should. And more and more states are starting to do it.

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Not to mention chlorine that's in there, a bunch of other minerals and metals and things that you don't need. And if you want to re-infuse your water with certain minerals, you can. We chose not to do it. But anyway, I do feel like it's the beginning of a new day with him coming in, talking sense about our food, our agriculture, our medicine, our drugs.

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Like, thank God, I'm sure he's going to be confirmed. We have somebody who's willing to say these things and is not owned by anyone. His confirmation hearing has not yet been set. It will be. He will be subjected to this horrible, painful cross-examination that these people can come up with. But no one's going to be able to lay a glove on him, Link.

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You know, and then let me play that so the audience can hear it. Hold your second thought. Here it is. Sat nine.

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Okay. I want to end with this because it's amazing. the iconic photo of Trump in his mugshot, right? Which served as just a rallying cry for so many Americans who were incensed by the lawfare against him. You remember that mugshot, right? Well, now he has to, as he's about to be inaugurated for the second time, he needs an official presidential photograph.

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And last night it was revealed on X by chief photographer for the president-elect Donald J. Trump, Daniel Turok, T-O-R-O-K. Look at this. Oh my goodness. It's amazing. I love it. He's effectively recreated the mugshot as president-elect. This says so much, doesn't it? Defiant, not afraid to remind you of what they put him through and back, baby. What do you make of it? Right.

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I love it too. Link, thank you both so much for being here. Love to see you. And we are back tomorrow with Maureen Callahan. We'll see you then. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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Well, I mean, your hips remember the cotton candy, so there's that distinction. Here's one of the things, the galling things. Kevin mentions, you know, George Soros. There's a very long list of billionaires on both sides that make donations, but it's two to one Dems to Republicans. It's the Democrats definitely outweigh the Republicans when it comes to billionaire donors.

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It's to the point where you may remember this moment, too. During the Kamala Harris campaign, she went on with Stephen Colbert and they had this moment.

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Lawrence O'Donnell, who I think might go from two viewers to four, as he does, I guess, an exit interview, but he won't do a final press conference, as virtually every president has done before him in modern history. And Corrine Jean-Pierre, you'll be shocked to learn, had absolutely no reasons for why.

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I mean, like we all know this. So what is it? Why is Biden do it? Is it it's just if you're a tech billionaire and suddenly you're part of this oligopoly that's trying to rule America with a tech iron fist.

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What do you think he's talking about there? Do you think he's talking about money in politics or do you think he's talking about Elon Musk? Like, I'm angry that Elon is the world's richest man and has joined BFF style with the sitting president and And and also Zuckerberg is Bethany and Bezos is Bethany. And therefore, I see this as an as an emerging oligarchy.

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Like I I feel like it was a complaint about Elon Musk and his outsized role in politics.

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Let me jump in with this, Kevin. So this is why, one of the reasons why I think he complained. Yes, he doesn't like Elon. He doesn't like all that money. And of course, Elon's using it. I mean, he bought X, which has changed the national conversation, then Twitter. He's threatening to primary people who are trying to stop or threatening to stop Trump's agenda.

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Just a bunch of mumbling muck produced by her on why he won't actually answer to the rest of us. Why won't he speak to us? and our representatives, which, like it or not, are the American media. Joining me now on Those Stories and More, two first-time guests on the show. Well, are they? I know Anna is.

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So he's definitely a thorn in the Democrats' side, but no more so than George Soros, who's funded every left-wing initiative that we've seen for the past decade plus. However, he goes on to talk about one of his other complaints, his big complaints about, you know, what he's worried about in America.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. More shocking revelations about just how bad things got with Biden at the end of his term. All right, we wrote that in script, but I gotta be, I'm not shocked. Are we, are any of us really shocked? It's like,

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Don't tell me that's in there because I know it's not. He doesn't like judges who read things in there. I feel like today we got judges all over the country who read stuff in there like a right to gay sex and a right to abortion that are clearly not written in the document.

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You guys know that they're coming on this show on Tuesday. That will be interesting. We'll get to all that when the guys from Real Clear Politics join me later. But first, a first-time guest on The Megyn Kelly Show who made big headlines last year when he did something many thought would be impossible. He, head of the Teamsters Union, spoke at the Republican National Convention.

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See, I think it's not a crime, but we should shame them. We should totally shame them. They should be ostracized. I'm totally in favor of Colin Kaepernick not making his way back into the NFL after all the disrespect he paid our flag. That's, I think, how you do it.

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You shun them, which is why I have to say it's why I think it's so stupid that these schools that have their valedictorians this time of year have to run their speech by the principal. I got a great story on that. The way we did it when you and I were growing up is if you get up there, you say something stupid, you get shunned and ostracized by your classmates and you learn the hard way.

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Let me pause you one second. Let me air some of it because we have a highlight reel and then you pick up your story in the back end. Watch. Here's some highlights from it.

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Sean O'Brien is general president of the International Brotherhood of the Teamsters and host of the Better Bad Ideas podcast. He joins me now. Since President Trump's election, the eyes of the nation have been on Mar-a-Lago and the free state of Florida. It is a thriving, booming place. South Florida is a special place because of its amazing water for boating, swimming, fishing, and drinking.

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Wait, that takes me back to what you were saying about Kamala coming to the Teamsters and only getting through four questions. Was she answering them the way we saw her answer on the campaign trail with just like a bunch of nothingness, this big air sandwich, or was she more substantive?

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Like the narrative right now in the wake of all these books is, you know, there was a quote from an unsourced. They didn't reveal who said it, but Democrat operatives saying that Joe Biden effed us. He effed us out of the presidency. He effed the American public out of a vote. Because he left her so little runway, only 107 days.

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And this is the narrative that the left is going with, which is just to me such a blatant lie. She didn't have it. More time wouldn't have worked to her benefit. It would have sunk her even sooner and probably by a bigger margin. That's my take.

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Yeah, you're right. And she she's absolutely the chief villain. I mean, I cannot imagine doing that to my husband or him doing that to me. It's horrifying. All right. Talk to me about why Trump is resonating with the working class of America in a way Republicans haven't in a long time. I know the Teamsters supported Reagan, right? They supported George H.W. Bush.

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But it's been a long, dry spell between Trump and the Teamsters or Republicans and the Teamsters for a good reason. So what's changing right now that's that's connecting so much with your members?

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Well, today, clean water is endangered by toxic algae. Did you know that? You may have heard of red tide or blue-green algae. It can be dangerous and it can be gross. In his first term, President Trump signed a law to solve the problem with a new reservoir south of Lake Okeechobee to keep clean, fresh water flowing constantly to South Florida.

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Well, I got to show you, this is how you criticize it. So Robert De Niro, who's got a severe case of the TDS, is in confluence right now, as all of the muckety-mucks are.

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And he's very unhappy about what Trump is doing to try to keep filmmaking, American filmmaking, in America by slapping tariffs on foreign-made films so that he can basically try to force people to make them domestically again for the American audience that they're meant to serve. And here's what De Niro said on Tuesday.

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It's like how long has it been since Robert De Niro knew what it was to be working class and to understand what it was like to worry about where your next paycheck's coming from, how you're going to pay the mortgage at the end of the month. You know, he's not thinking about your guys at all. Right.

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He's talking about how Donald Trump's a Philistine, meaning he doesn't understand modern culture and, you know, cultural and the culture and the arts the way Robert De Niro does, you see.

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Yeah. The nerve of him saying it from Cannes, France, of all places, my God. You know, Trump has been so good about trying to pressure American companies into bringing business back here. And there's no better example of that in the news recently than Apple. It's really kind of an outrage. I mean, literally almost everybody has one of these devices, right? One of these Apple phones.

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They're by far the dominant product that we use for our phones. It's an American company. It was born in America. It was invented by an American. And they make all of the phones over in China and now India. They don't make any of them here. Those could be... actual well-paying jobs for real live Americans. I mean, talk about a living wage. It could be a great wage.

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So nice to meet you. What do you make of that? Let me start there. You know all these Democrats, they've been coming to you for years trying to get your donations and get you to support them. What do you make of all this news around Biden's mental acuity and the finger pointing on who knew?

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They don't want to pay it because they can buy making it labor for cheap in China, in India. So Trump let it slip this week that he had a tense phone call. He's over in the Middle East right now. He was in Qatar and he kind of went off on a side about a phone call he just had with Tim Cook, the CEO. Take a listen to this at five.

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And then he said Apple is going to be upping their production in the United States, though he didn't provide further details. How do you feel about it?

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And even the company. Yeah. Apple's one of the most successful companies in world history. Like, I wonder what the difference would be if they paid Americans a real living wage versus giving a bunch of Chinese and Indians some not great wage. Like, OK, they probably have a smaller profit margin, but you'd be giving real jobs to your fellow countrymen.

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Um, the guys from the all in podcast, two of the so-called besties, I don't know if you've ever seen it, but they're great. Um, they're tech guys. They've made it all big in tech out in Silicon Valley. And two of them were on the show about a week ago and they, we, we got into a debate about illegal immigration and, um,

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They were saying, realistically, Trump is not going to be able to get out these 10 to 20 million illegals. He's just not going to be able to do it. And the economy would collapse, they argued, if he did it. That we're so dependent on these illegals doing, you know, the line, the jobs Americans will not do, that we can't realistically ship them off.

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And I was saying, well, maybe you're right, because he's not imposing the E-Verify system, which, you know, many have wanted him to do for a long time, which would really kind of make it impossible for employers to hire illegals. So maybe Trump at some level knows that, there would be economic ruin at some level if we shipped all of them out, because that would be a real tool to get them to leave.

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Do you accept this, Sean? Because I was saying, I don't accept that the economy will collapse. I believe these employers would be forced to turn to Americans and pay them the wages they demand to do these jobs.

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Exactly. There's a, there's a law of natural consequences that the public can unleash way better than any sort of white collar command center can. Um, I know that you guys, uh, you work at UPS, you're big at UPS and you've been in a dispute with Amazon for quite some time, the Teamsters union, right? You're doing the truck. So what's going on with Amazon?

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Yeah. Now he's they've reportedly reversed it because they had a phone call from Trump saying, what are you doing? Or somebody talked to Trump. What are you doing? You know, his yacht has a yacht. Bezos's yacht has its own yacht to carry all the toys for the big yacht.

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And it's reportedly where Lauren Sanchez goes off to the other yacht with her girlfriends who don't make the main dance on the main yacht. Like what I've heard, this is not my independent reporting, but what I've been told is that she has her girlfriends, like the Kardashian types, who ride along on the second yacht, the yacht's yacht.

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And that's how she goes over and parties with them because he's got more like the dignitary types on his yacht. But then... Her yacht is the one that carries the helicopter for his yacht. And this is the man who's refusing to pay this fair wage to do the right thing by the drivers who are really that bread and butter of the Amazon product.

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And look, it's not that I begrudge him his success, but I just think he's an American. We made him super rich. And like, why? What's the point at this point? Does the second yacht need its own yacht? Like, what's the point at this point?

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Yeah, I don't know. But it's they definitely their yacht definitely has a yacht. And, um, I have heard stories about her going, her friends being relegated to the yacht too. Yeah. So what does that tell you? What does that tell you?

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Yeah, well, I'd love to get to the bottom of whether that's true and why exactly he's doing it, but I do know his yacht is a yacht. I hope it's not true. No, his yacht definitely does. And it carries his helicopter because he can't be bothered to actually just take the dinghy out to the yacht. That's for losers who have to do that. His soon-to-be wife is being... honored at the con film festival.

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This is just a little news of the day. Um, she's going to receive the global gift women empowerment award for her commitment to climate justice with the Bezos earth fund and social justice with this is about humanity and organization dedicated to reuniting families separated at the U S Mexico border. So they're honoring her to get her, I guess, to the con film festival.

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It's a great idea. Let me ask you about this because I grew up in a middle-class family and now I have money and I'm living in a sort of fancy community. And I look around and everybody here, like they want their kids to get an internship with the U S Senate or like with some, with JP Morgan or something like that. Right. That's what they want.

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Even in high school, even in high school, Sean, I don't want that. My, my oldest, who's really the only one who can work. He was a bus boy last summer, which I loved. And my daughter's going to be a bus girl this summer. But I really, I was talking to my husband about this. Like, what do you think? What's the Sean O'Brien plan for actually making sure, you know, kids like ours are

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learn what they need to learn in the summers. Like, I'd love to see him go be with the Teamsters for a summer. Like, what would be the Sean O'Brien perfect summer education program for four years? Like, what would you have the kids doing?

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We all knew, we knew, we knew, we knew. We may not have known the specific details, but I mean, I guess what's, no, there's nothing shocking. It's just not shocking. It's just like, it's shocking that he actually lived to the day of Trump's inauguration. That's what's shocking. But I'm still interested. Like I'm reading the stuff. Are you interested?

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I mean, how did I know? Well, it's like how did half the country know? How did half of the press know and report on it? Just the left wing press wouldn't. And those around Joe Biden downplayed it.

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I think our son would love that because the biggest thing he learned about being a busboy last summer was you get covered in, quote, garbage juice, which is not a pleasant experience, but it's one from which one learns. I've got to ask you about this. You're the perfect person to ask about this because we're talking about these enormously privileged people who don't care.

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They lost touch with where they came from and how important it is not to do that. Please let me play for you this Michelle Obama soundbite and get you to react. It's driving me insane.

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Isn't it unbelievable? These people could just get out of touch, right? Like the Obamas now, they have hundreds of millions, if not a billion dollars by this point. And that happens. We don't begrudge people their success in America. But when you lose touch with how real people live, especially if you're in power, it's dangerous. I'll give you the last word, my friend.

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Right on. It's a real pleasure to meet you. Thank you so much for being here.

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Oh, you're the best. All right. Well, I'm going to be shipping my son off to you soon. So I'm glad we bonded. This was not the purpose of the visit, but I'm pleased as punch to know you. Come back soon. All the best.

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Okay, good. Good. And I think you're an Irish Catholic just like me. So we got to get those values in. We got to get them in young. See you soon, Sean. All the best. We'll be right back with a real care politics guys. These days, it feels like nothing surprises us anymore, but not in a good way. The headlines are heavy. The future feels uncertain and so much is out of our control.

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Okay, so what's happening right now in Washington is a big and important argument at the US Supreme Court. And it's undergirding the argument is whether Trump has the right to end birthright citizenship. But it's not really what's coming up today.

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What's really being argued is can federal district courts issue nationwide injunctions as opposed to an injunction that just affects the litigants in front of them or perhaps even the people who are in the jurisdiction of said federal district court, but not something that would stop a presidential executive order or a congressional law. from proceeding coast to coast?

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Is that too much power that was never envisioned or intended for federal district court judges? So I've been on the air for most of this time, so I haven't been following what's happened since then. But what I'm hearing is that there's a shot, which I think is actually quite good news for Donald Trump, that there's a shot of stopping the nationwide injunction thing Would be big.

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If Trump can get five justices to say that, he can restart his agenda, which has been held up by these nationwide injunctions. I'll play you a couple of soundbites and just listen to, I'll just frame the basic debate. You're gonna hear in some of these soundbites them discussing Rule 23, which governs when a class action can be filed.

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And what Trump's lawyer is arguing is basically that, his name is John Sauer. You'll hear him in these soundbites. He has like a scratchy voice. And he's trying to say on behalf of Trump, if you're going to get a nationwide injunction, you have to file a class action.

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You have to say, I'm here to represent everybody, everybody who's in this affected class of like people who no longer will have birthright citizenship. And then only the U.S. Supreme Court would be able to issue such an injunction for you. And the other side is saying, no, there's nothing wrong with nationwide injunctions.

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And at best, at best, you could say maybe they could only be limited, used in certain small, limited circumstances. So you hear Rule 23, they're talking about class actions. Let's take a listen to a little bit of how here in this one. Sonia Sotomayor, who might be the dumbest one on, I don't know, I'm sorry, but she's like, it's tight, but I think she's my number one favorite for dumbest.

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She's questioning Sauer, that's Trump's guy, Solicitor General, and you'll hear she tries to interrupt him and John Roberts, the Chief Justice, isn't happy. Listen.

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He's saying issue injunctions that apply only to the litigants in front of you. But that's a good sign for Trump that John Roberts wanted to hear him out because he's kind of wishy washy, as people know. And what Jonathan Turley tweeted out this morning is that. From what he heard, Justices Thomas, Alito, and Kavanaugh seemed strongly in favor of the administration.

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Roberts also made repeated points that seemed to support some of the arguments of the administration, though it was not clear how he would vote. On the left, you've got, of course, Kagan and... Sotomayor and Katonji Brown Jackson, and the fight is over Gorsuch and Barrett, two Trump-appointed judges.

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Gorsuch has previously expressed criticism of universal injunctions, but as probing questions on both sides, Barrett seemed more accommodating in seeking a way to uphold universal injunctions. In other words, Turley writes, this could be a nail-biter.

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But a nail-biter, again, I think for Trump is maybe better, Tom, than Trump, well, maybe not Trump himself, but his top legal advisors would have expected.

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So you mentioned you didn't think Kamala Harris was going to be the answer back in 2020, looking at this pair, if and when Joe Biden failed. Why is that?

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What do you make of it, Carl Cannon? Because even though I don't like what's happening to the Trump agenda, I've got to be honest, I really loved that nationwide injunction stopping Joe Biden's revisions of Title IX and sat on this set and cheered it. However, that was a different story. We didn't have these ubiquitous courts issuing them to stop an entire presidential agenda.

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They're definitely not going to go there. I mean, you know this as well as I do, Andrew, that the Supreme Court likes to decide things as narrowly as possible, and there's no way they're just going to be like, oh, and also let's take on birthright citizenship while we're all here.

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Oh yeah, and that one will get there too. That's gonna wind its way up. I mean, these cases are those cases that will come back after they get litigated on the merits to the Supreme Court, but they have to get past this first thing about whether the injunctions that were issued in stopping Trump's executive order saying no more birthright citizenship can stand.

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So these are the cases that will put that substantive challenge in front of the Supreme Court at some point next year, probably, but they're not there yet. Okay, so- that's an interesting point. I just want to, before we leave this, Tom, Andrew's not wrong. This is, this is resistant 2.0. This is what they, the lawfare and how they've been doing it.

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I mean, through left-wing judges who are, they pick selectively, they file in exactly the jurisdictions they know they're going to do well in like DC. And, um, if the nationwide injunction thing is lifted, that is a massive loss for the Democrats 2.0 resistance.

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I can't wait to find out what they think. And thankfully, since they're hearing it so late in the term, we won't have long to wait. You know, we will get this decision before they take off. Usually they go all of June and a couple of days into July if history's any indication. OK, let's let's turn the page to the book that everybody's been talking about.

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I heard you guys talk about it on your show, which I love, by the way. I love the Real Clear Politics podcast. Yeah. And it's this original sin book by Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson of Axios. And we reported yesterday, we didn't report, but repeated a report in Politico that the guys had hired a crisis PR agent to help them because...

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You know, the press for them has been absolutely terrible this week. I mean, it's just been an all out assault on them from everyone who's in the independent media or right of the independent media. Guys like you, us, everybody. I mean, you're not like right wing.

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You're independent because we all saw Biden's infirmity and we all discussed it for years, for years prior to when these guys were acknowledging it was an issue. I mean, like we all it's not a cover up if half the country, all the country knew that And half the press reported it. What really just needs to be examined is why did the other half not report it?

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Because this isn't like a cover-up, like Watergate style, where people didn't know that they were bugging the offices. Like here, we knew, we knew, we knew. It's just such a weird thing to claim cover-up. Okay, but-

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I believe Tapper's crisis PR person has gotten to him on maybe how to massage the message around his participation in the cover-up or at least absolute lack of curiosity around the issue. And here's the new message in SOT6.

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All right, Carl, does that get it done? I look back on my reporting with humility.

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What was she like when you guys met with her? Because you met with her in advance of the November vote.

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And you know, the thing about the Wall Street Journal thing is that didn't even hit until, was it April? It was April of 2024, like very late in the game with all due respect to the Wall Street Journal. But it was like they were very late to the party.

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Well, and on that front. So, Andrew, what's your verdict? Because we've been kind of debating on this show all week. So so given that, are we in favor of these books or no, because they're too stomach turningly hypocritical?

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Let me show it, and then you pick it up on the back end. Yeah, here it is.

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We've seen a cascade, Tom, of Democrats saying yesterday, Chuck Schumer, I'm moving forward, moving forward. That was how he tried to handle these tough questions. There have been at least two other Democrats on camera. Somebody did a mashup of them online. Moving forward, not looking backward. This is apparently a strategy they think is going to work.

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And then here was Colorado Democrat Senator Michael Bennett on the Mark Halperin NextUp podcast, which is part of our MK Media Network podcast. in a very awkward exchange on Wednesday. Watch this.

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There are now questions being raised about whether the antidotes in the book have been tested enough. And this is an interesting twist to the story for me because what I sense as a possibility—I'll ask them about it when they're here on Tuesday— is perhaps in the zeal to now be the ones on the left to own the story, like to try to be first on the left at least.

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They're not, as we discussed, nowhere near first writ large. Did they... put things in the book that they should have tested more strenuously. And the reason I'm asking this is because this guy named Rufus Gifford, who's the finance chair he was for the Biden campaign, went on. Here's our friend Mark again. Mark Halperin's everywhere. Interviewing this guy, Rufus, and watch what happened.

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And what Rufus also said, you guys, was he he'd bet dollars to donuts that their source was George Clooney. And that this this the implication was that this is a matter of hubris on his part or inflation of how bad it was. Now that he's kind of leaning into being the one who spoke truth to power and journalists.

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on the receiving end of that are supposed to kick those tires and look for secondary sources and gets people to go on the record so that they can go back and test these things. Right. And none of that, that wasn't done here. This book is mostly anonymous sources, Carl.

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If you listen to him, he wasn't trying to say that, but he was pointing out, you know, like, that can't be... the excuse if this story is wrong, right? You have to get the stories right.

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No, but I'm just saying, was the book tested? Was it double sourced? Did they make sure in the zeal, again, to get this thing to print and to be the first and to be like the ones of the left who are gonna speak the truth, did they skip some important reportorial steps? I'll go with you to you on it, Andrew, because this guy says he was there

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And what the book says is Biden came in and, you know, nice to see you. Nice to see you. Nice to see you. And then he kind of breezed up to George. Nice to see you. And somebody said, you know, George, and it's nice to see you. And they were like, George Clooney, you know, one of your hosts tonight. And then he was like, oh, George. Oh, yeah.

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But let me just say one other thing. So what this guy is saying is that, no, it cannot be a difference of opinion because what literally happened, you have to listen to a longer clip, was the president was arriving and his advance team, I don't know, I can't remember if he said it was his chief of staff or whoever. was on the inside with George and Julia Roberts, like across the doorway.

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And the advanced man came in with the president and said, Mr. President, you know George Clooney and Julia Roberts, who were greeting him. He didn't have a chance to work a rope line and say, nice to see you, nice to see you, or make any, like, that's what this guy Rufus is alleging.

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I'm going to ask them. I'm going to ask them about that for sure when they come on Tuesday.

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Are you interested in like these details as they come out? Now there's a guy coming out saying that what's in the Tapper Thompson book actually may not be true.

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And in the relative scheme of culpability. I give the media absolutely no pardon, none whatsoever. You're like Tom.

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I know. This is one of the many reasons I love Tom, not to make any judgment about the other two parts of the podcast.

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He was, but then he got up to the White House Correspondents Dinner and said, we missed it. We missed the story, which is not true. But what I was going to say, Tom, is that—

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If you're assigning relative blame, yes, the media is right. But there's no question that the deepest, worst, most unforgivable sin was by the Biden aides and the Biden family members who actively worked to cover this up.

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Same. All right, let's move on to some other news. We have finally had an awakening on the left, similar to the awakening on the left we just discovered, and the press too, but I repeat myself, on how refugees may not be that desirable. People flocking to America from other countries claiming that they must because their countries are war-torn or they're endangered. We may not want them.

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Why do you think she was so arrogant? That's just stupid politics. I mean, that's the kind of thing you say to your husband after you leave a contentious meeting, not to the people whose support you're asking for.

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It's very late in the game, but they finally discovered it because said people happen now to be white. So it's a no. So we're taking in what the administration is calling refugees from South Africa, white families, some, I think it's 59 of them, 49. And the left is upset. They're very, very upset that they haven't been vetted. This is the complaint. They haven't been vetted.

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Normally you have to run this by the UN. We haven't run it by the UN. They get here, they wave American flags. They're wearing American flag t-shirts. They all speak English. They had to go through like this screening process to make sure that they wanted to assimilate. Yes, yes, yes. And now, um, we get, okay. Yeah.

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OK, now we get the left again freaking out about it, upset because they're not pro racial justice or social justice. Elon Musk tweeted out as follows posted, I should say. The South African government just said whites are cowards who are fleeing racial justice or fleeing racial justice. But what exactly do they mean by racial justice? And indeed, this is what the South Africans had said.

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The South African president came out with the following comment. As South Africans, we are resilient. We don't run away from our problems. We must stay here and solve our problems. When you run away, you're a coward. And that's a real cowardly act, the running away.

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Then they also, through their Congress, put out a statement that reads, in part, what the instigators of this falsehood who are fleeing South Africa seek is not safety, but impunity from transformation. They flee not from persecution, but from justice, equality, and accountability for historic privilege. historic privilege.

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They're taking their land away from them without paying them and just giving it to other people in South Africa who have the right skin color and with no remuneration. And so now you have people all over CNN saying we don't want them and The View, we don't want them because what? You tell me, what has changed in this calculation? Would anybody like to take a shot?

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Well, now they're upping the ante because their White House is threatening to pull out of the G20. Trump threatened he would not attend the G20 leaders meeting in Johannesburg unless the situation is taken care of. That summit is set to be held in November. The U.S. is set to host the summit next year. And the White House National Security Council on Wednesday ordered U.S.

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agencies and departments to suspend work with the group of G20 leaders. conference. They're trying to, I mean, these are all tools that the left uses to try to punish Republicans who do things or other countries who don't do things the way they want it. So turnabout fair play, Carl Cannon.

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Here's what's amazing. OK, you get you get a headline like this from this moronic person over at the website Mediaite. And the headline she posts yesterday is white South African refugee in quotes brought to U.S. by Trump says, quote, Jews are untrustworthy and dangerous.

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Okay, wait till she finds out how the Palestinians feel about Jews who were brought over here by President Biden in much greater numbers than 49 or 51. The numbers beat that in even just one year and he wanted to bring more. He wanted to bring far more. There was just such political blowback, he couldn't.

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I don't remember her article about how they feel about Jews, because now they want to vet the people, Tom. Now they're like, they haven't been vetted. We don't know if they're going to assimilate. They may not share our values. Should we talk about the men who came over from Muslim countries under President Obama? Do they share our values? Because I think most of them would put me in a burqa.

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I think he was just using refugees. Right. He was just referring to refugees. Right. I assume, Carl, because I mean, the illegals just is at least twice, probably. But we do.

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All right. Last but not least, is Trump going to have his plane from Qatar or isn't he?

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And how are they going to deliver 160 over to the Middle East now under this new deal he just brokered? They can't even make the two we ordered.

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But it can't withstand a nuclear blast, which Air Force One is supposed to do. But, you know, I even heard the New York Times is the daily podcast yesterday, Andrew. No fans of President Trump talking about how the Air Force One ride is like kind of alarmingly shuddery. on takeoff and landing because the planes are 30 years old and they're, you know, they're huge.

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They have, it's probably takes a lot to make the plane able to resist, you know, a rocket propelled grenade and a nuclear bomb. Uh, but she was saying, you know, that even she had questions about like, is this okay? You know, on takeoff and landing on the thing. And I'm sure Trump 10 times that.

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And here's cutter with these magnificent multi like fleet of planes because they're used to flying around all these, you know, Arab dignitaries. saying, hey, you can have this one. And Trump's like, yes, I just saved us 400 million bucks.

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I don't know. I mean... I don't love it, but I also feel like it saved us $400 million. You know, like, I don't know. Is it so bad if it's a gift to the United States, assuming that our Defense Department could make sure the thing is debugged, Tom? Like, is it so bad if it's a gift to our Defense Department and... Totally sure I even care if it remains for the next president.

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I'm like, I'm not really 100 percent sure whether I even care about that. I just feel like Trump wants a better relationship with Qatar with or without this plane.

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I think Troublesake can stay the property of the U.S. government if a Republican takes over after him. There's no way he's going to let Gavin Newsom fly around in his Qatar gifted plane. Guys, it's a pleasure, as always. Thanks for coming on.

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All right. We'll hear you guys later. Okay. We're going to take a quick break here. We're going to come back with a little bit more on, yes, it's a daily theme, Michelle Obama's, I'm not kidding, latest rounds of fill in the blank. You guessed it. What does she do? Nothing but. complain. Her latest round of complaints don't go away.

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There was a very interesting segment on Mark Halperin's show saying where this a guy who was in attendance when Joe Biden met George Clooney, who said, I'm telling you, it was Biden's finance chair who said, I'm telling you right now that they got this story from George Clooney and it's a lie. He wasn't defending Biden's mental acuity, but he was like, this is George Clooney being George Clooney.

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We're back to our daily segment of Michelle Obama's terrible, terrible life. Boo effing hoo. She went on a podcast called Diary of a CEO. It's kind of rings a bell like a founder kind of situation. And once again, wants you to know how awful it is to be married with children.

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What? There's something wrong with this person. Like she's seriously depressed. She has the most negative, dark outlook on life I've ever heard from a public figure. Certainly one who's been given so much. Okay, her window into motherhood and having a child, the first thing she says, they mess you up. They mess you up. Maybe that's what happened to her.

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Maybe she was totally delightful before the two daughters came along. I don't know. She clearly is not enjoying motherhood and enjoying being in a marriage even less. It's not you if things get hard. It's all hard. It's all hard. This is so backward. I have news for you.

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I've been married twice and I get along with my ex-husband, but I can tell you that in my marriage to Doug, which is now in year 18, it's not hard at all. It's totally delightful. If you marry the right person, and by the way, my ex-husband is happily, happily married now too. If you marry the right person, it's not hard. You don't talk about it this way.

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He didn't resonate with you with his camo hat and his attempt to look like a hunter?

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It's not saying you never have a hard spot, but she talks about like the whole institution is a nightmare. Poor Michelle Obama. And then you have the babies and they mess you up. They F up a mother. I mean, this woman needs an intervention. She needs our help. And that's not all. She can't make fun of herself. This has been obvious for years.

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She's incapable of laughing at her own expense, which is an absolutely dreadful quality in a person. I don't think I could hire a person who works for me who doesn't have that ability. I think it's a sign of intelligence when you can, and it's definitely a sign that you have a strong id. You know who you are, and you cannot be easily moved off of that by detractors or anyone else.

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You have a strong moral core. She doesn't have it. That's why she's so thin-skinned. That's why she hates America. That's why she's obsessed with us being a racist country. Hates America. That's my opinion. Seems clear based on her many statements. Um, it makes perfect sense because she doesn't believe in herself. She's got absolutely no self-confidence.

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That's why she called her book becoming nobody with actual self-confidence would have to tell us how becoming she is. It's not what you do. And so here's the second soundbite. This one is from Amy Poehler's podcast. Um, just a couple of days ago, May 13th on the rules between Michelle and Barack and also brother Craig.

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I believe that. I have no doubt you do because you do it publicly whenever you can. When was the last time you said anything kind about him? It's a 99 to 1 ratio in your public comments. So that's their rule. She and her daughters can tease him mercilessly, and he is not allowed to say anything about becoming over there on the other side of the couch. Only compliments allowed. Only praise.

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Yeah, well, he's now admitted that they put him out there to be the guy who's going to attract working class white guys. I think that's you. That's your guys. So why do you think it didn't work?

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And by the way, I got a tip for you. Pro tip, Barack, it'll never be enough. It'll never, it doesn't matter how much praise you heap on her. Could praise everything. Could praise these ridiculous hairstyles she's wearing. The stegosaurus cuts that she's getting with her three bumps on the back of her head or the weird little pigtails up here. It'll never be enough because she's not fill-up-able.

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Because look at her extraordinary life. Look where life took her. And she's still bitter. She's pissed. She had to pay for the groceries in the White House. She's pissed. She had her own plane and so did you. But she had to pay the equivalent of a plane ticket for her daughters when she traveled with them. She had to buy for her groceries just like literally everybody.

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Literally everybody, including you think of somebody like J.D. Vance's mom, Beverly, with a 10-year heroin addiction. Nobody was paying for her groceries. Maybe the public taxpayer paid a little. But everybody pays for their lives, Michelle. You're not unique in that way. You are unique in that your husband was elected president. You were made first lady. You had nearly universal approval.

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We put you in a 55,000 square foot mansion, gave you a full staff of people, chauffeurs, drivers, motorcades with armed guards everywhere you went, an 18 or 19 acre estate around you with a rose garden whenever you wanted to go and stop and smell them. But you never did. You were too bitter having a bitter party of one. That's your problem. You were too busy with your bitterness.

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And it's obvious to the point where you can't even have somebody take a fun pot shot at you because your thin skin can't handle it. My next pro tip is for you, Michelle Obama, to go back into the private life you were living. Your like me and relate to me tour is failing, as is your podcast. And I think you benefited from the, you know,

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idea of like the mystery around you, the image that was curated by you and your people. And you're suffering right now from the adage familiarity breeds contempt. I know I'm feeling it. Good luck. That's it. That's all I have to say. We should end the show now. More tomorrow or soon. I've got some thoughts on the Diddy trial. We'll be back with that at some point very soon. Bye.

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Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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What do you think about that? Like the Democrats and their embrace of this social justice, woke, annoying, you know, the demonization of whites, white men in particular. I mean, I think it's a massive, massive vulnerability of theirs, and I don't think they're capable of fixing it. I just think that wing of their party is just metastasized into too big a blob to excise.

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Have you seen them out there, a couple of these Democrats, trying to figure out what the magic formula is to win back the working class, which used to be voting Democrat, and that what they're doing more and more is dropping the occasional F-bomb, which, as you know, only works if it's sincere, if that's actually how you talk, if it's authentic to you.

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Like, oh, he didn't know me. But he was like, he that's not what happened. He walked in and the president's representatives were like George Clooney and Julia Roberts. And they walked in the room and said, hi, George. Hi, Julia. Like there was no mystery to it. So is is the book even factually correct? I don't know. The whole drama around it is kind of interesting.

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And everybody who actually does talk like that can smell these phonies from a mile away in their little Argyle sweaters, like sweater vests, as they're trying to pronounce carefully the F-U and the C-K especially on it so they can sound. They don't understand how to do it, Sean.

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Yes. Oh, my God. It's the music to my ears. I completely agree. They they lost the regular Americans with their far left ideals. You listen to I was recently listening to a speech that or not a speech, which is an interview that Justice Antonin Scalia gave back when he was still alive and on the Supreme Court.

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And he was saying because he was a pivotal vote and I think wrote the opinion in that Supreme Court decision that upheld democracy. people's ability to burn the flag as a constitutional matter, because this is the United States of America and it's free speech.

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And then he just went off on how terrible he thinks it is and how if Antonin Scalia were a, you know, lawmaker or trying or in an influencer position. Yes, he would tell everybody not to do that. It's terrible. It's important. What are you doing? He would say the same message you did. But as a jurist, he had no choice but to interpret the Constitution the way it is. It's like normal people.

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But it's good. I mean, like we need more judges like that. Right. Like he used to say, like, I'm really kind of a slave to the Constitution and the law. You want to hear us interpret. We come up with bad decisions that wind up kind of stupid. It's because we have some laws that are bad and kind of stupid. And it's not up.

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His whole constitutional philosophy was it's not up to people in robes to like overrule the legislature. That's a leftist judge's thinking, you know. No, it's a living, breathing constitution. He's like, no, there's nothing in there about banning, you know, the death penalty, for example. That was legal in all 50 states or all states that we had when we adopted the Constitution.

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Baseball, which is dying all over the place, should get off its fat, lazy ass and elect Pete Rose, even though it is far too late, into the Baseball Hall of Fame. Commissioner Manfred visiting the White House in April confirming after the meeting that Pete Rose was a subject of conversation.

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Former sportscaster John Condit interviewing 83-year-old Pete Rose just days before his death in September about the lifetime ban.

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The next Hall of Fame vote set for December 2027. We'll see if old Charlie Hustle, who earned that nickname because he never phoned in a walk to first base or a slide into home plate, actually makes it. And that'll do it for your AM Update. I'm Megyn Kelly.

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Join me back here for The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Triumph Channel 111 at noon east, on youtube.com slash Megyn Kelly, and on all podcast platforms.

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HHS Secretary RFKJ sitting for a House Appropriations Subcommittee budget meeting Wednesday morning, and then in the afternoon, off to the Senate Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions Committee. In the morning session, Mr. Kennedy identifying key HHS goals for fiscal year 2026, focus on ending the chronic disease epidemic, and improve the efficiency of Medicare and Medicaid services.

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HHS Secretary RFKJ testifying at House and Senate budget hearings, delivering impassioned pleas for bipartisan cooperation in restoring American health.

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Secretary Kennedy is overseeing a massive reorganization of HHS, reducing what the Trump administration says is redundant bureaucracy and consolidating the department from 28 divisions into 15. Ranking member of the committee, Connecticut Congresswoman Rosa DeLauro, launching a blistering attack on Secretary Kennedy.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Thursday, May 15th, 2025, and this is your AM Update.

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The secretary later in the hearing going back to address Congresswoman DeLauro's comments on the measles outbreak. I want to correct you.

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Mr. Kennedy asked by a Republican how Congress can help HHS promote healthy diets for young children, responding... We are about to reissue the dietary guidelines, and we're going to do it very quickly.

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Secretary Kennedy then pivoting back to address an earlier comment from ranking member DeLauro about food dyes.

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President Trump deepening ties with Middle Eastern leaders in a whirlwind tour. The star witness in the Sean Diddy Combs trial takes the stand for a second day. And the legendary Pete Rose now posthumously eligible for the Baseball Hall of Fame after a little help from President Trump. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update.

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In the afternoon Senate session, Secretary Kennedy responding to a question about the dangers of gain-of-function research, the high-risk practice of making viruses more dangerous in the name of developing future treatments, which Secretary Kennedy believes led to the COVID pandemic.

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Secretary Kennedy also doing battle with Democrat Senator from Connecticut, Chris Murphy, who was newly bearded.

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President Trump signed an executive order in early May halting federal funding for gain-of-function research in overseas labs and authorizing U.S. agencies to pause domestic projects they deem dangerous. President Trump meeting with the new president of Syria just one more stop on a breakneck tour through the Middle East. Mr. Trump, the first U.S. president in 25 years to meet a Syrian leader.

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Ahmad al-Sharaa taking office in December after his Islamist coalition ousted longtime dictator Bashar al-Assad from power. The international community expressing caution at the group's rise, unsure whether Mr. Shahra once linked to jihadist movements may prove as authoritarian as Assad or as jihadi as he's been in the past.

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Though Mr. Shahra has rebranded himself as a nationalist leader, concerns remain about his militant background and the Islamist roots of his coalition. President Trump extending an olive branch to the new leader, lifting longstanding sanctions on Syria, offering the war-torn nation a chance at a prosperous and modern future.

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President Trump inviting Syria to join the Abraham Accords, normalizing relations with Israel for the first time since the establishment of the Jewish state. Mr. Trump reflecting on the meeting from Air Force One.

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Later in Qatar, President Trump meeting with the emir, remarking on the opulent palace and very warm welcome.

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Tax day may have passed, but for millions of Americans, the real trouble is just beginning. If you miss the April 15th deadline or still owe back taxes, the IRS is ramping up enforcement, and every day you wait might make things worse. With over 5,000 new tax liens filed daily and tools like property seizures, bank levies, and wage garnishments, you don't want to mess around.

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The leaders then signing a joint declaration of cooperation between the two nations. The agreement, though non-binding, signals goodwill and good faith between the U.S. and Qatar. An early result of the cooperation agreement, a $200 billion contract for Boeing. President Trump, despite his recent criticism of Boeing...

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in failing to deliver two new Air Force One jets on time and on budget, facilitating this deal between the U.S. company and the Qatari government for the purchase by Qatar of 160 Boeing planes, marking the largest wide-body aircraft order, that's planes with two passenger aisles, in Boeing's history. Here, a shout-out to Boeing's CEO, Kelly Ortberg.

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Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth also signing a defense cooperation agreement with Qatar and an intent agreement for a Qatari purchase of MQ-9 drones. These new deals reflective of President Trump's approach to securing peace in the Middle East through economic investment and military cooperation.

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The visit aiming to solidify ties with Qatar, a strategically vital but historically tenuous ally that hosts one of the largest U.S. military bases in the region, yet maintains links to Hamas and the Taliban. Later today, the first direct peace talks set to take place in Turkey between Ukraine and Russia.

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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky inviting President Trump to attend in hopes of compelling Russian President Vladimir Putin to personally attend the talks as well. On Air Force One, Mr. Trump telling reporters he may consider rearranging his packed agenda.

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Coming up, day three of the Diddy Trial, star witness Cassie taking the stand for a second day. And baseball legend Pete Rose just may get his name in the Hall of Fame after all. As President Trump is settling into his new administration, one of the top Democrats in Congress aiming to undermine the Trump agenda is Democrat Senator Dick Durbin of Illinois.

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And according to our sponsor, the Electronic Payments Coalition, Senator Durbin has a new plan, a government takeover of your credit card. Today, Americans have thousands of choices in credit cards, but they say Senator Durbin's plan will result in less competition and less security, which means more risk for your credit and your identity.

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You can learn more for yourself at guardyourcard.org, and you could consider telling your senators to stop Dick Durbin's government takeover of your credit card before it's too late. Star witness Cassie Ventura returning to the stand for a second day of testimony in rapper Sean Diddy Combs' criminal trial. On Tuesday, Ms.

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Ventura testifying for about four and a half hours about the nature of the so-called freak-offs, graphic, extended sexual encounters she participated in at Mr. Combs' behest. The testimony continuing on Wednesday, Ms. Ventura providing more details on the infamous security camera footage of a 2016 incident at the Intercontinental Hotel. showing Mr. Combs in a towel, throwing Ms.

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Ventura onto a hallway floor, kicking her and dragging her violently. Ms. Ventura telling prosecutors she left the hotel after a security guard responded to the incident, later texting Mr. Combs, quote, I have a black eye and a fat lip. You are sick for thinking it's okay to do what you've done. Please stay far away from me. Ms.

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Ventura saying Mr. Combs showed up at her apartment later that day, quote, banging, kicking, yelling outside her door. The witness telling prosecutors that behavior was, quote, pretty normal for Mr. Combs. Ms.

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Ventura testifying she was afraid Mr. Combs might release embarrassing video footage of the freak-offs, saying the rapper threatened to release the videos when, quote, he was angry about something or just really wanted me to fear. The witness also describing a 2013 incident where Mr. Combs woke her up yelling at Ms. Ventura for not packing for a trip. Ms.

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Ventura saying two of her friends jumped on Mr. Combs' back because he was trying to attack her. Quote, we ended up from the living room into the master bedroom when he threw me down. I hurt my eyebrow on the corner of my bed. The witness gesturing to a scar on her eyebrow. The witness, we should point out, took the stand eight and a half months pregnant.

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Her walk to the witness box, Mr. Combs tried to prevent, asking if she could be seated before the jury was brought in so as not to elicit any extra sympathy for her, the judge overruling that request. There's been evidence that Ms. Ventura at times told Combs she wanted to join the freak-offs and that she paid the sex workers who participated in them.

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The defense clearly crafting a strategy to show that while extreme... Combs' sex life with Cassie was not forced upon her by the equivalent of a mob boss, Combs. As for Combs' alleged physical assaults of Ms. Ventura, they have not been charged as a separate individual crime by any prosecutor.

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Mr. Combs has pleaded not guilty to the charges, including racketeering conspiracy, sex trafficking, and transportation to engage in prostitution. Legendary baseball player Pete Rose's lifetime ban from the MLB lifted on Tuesday by league commissioner Rob Manfred. The commissioner changing league rules to say once a player has died, the lifetime ban ends.

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The decision means Mr. Rose and 16 other players are now at least eligible for induction into the MLB Hall of Fame. Mr. Rose was a 17-time All-Star and three-time World Series champion and the MLB's all-time leader in hits, The MLB banning Mr. Rose in 1989 following allegations that he bet on games as a player and manager for the Cincinnati Reds.

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Mr. Rose admitted to the allegations years later, but saying he only bet on his team to win. President Trump, a fan of Mr. Rose, advocating for his inclusion into the Hall of Fame at least as far back as 2016.

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In February of this year, the president posting to Truth Social, quote, Major League Baseball didn't have the courage or decency to put the late great Pete Rose, also known as Charlie Hustle, into the Baseball Hall of Fame. Now he is dead, will never experience the thrill of being selected, and can only be named posthumously. What a shame. Pete Rose only bet on his team winning.

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I'm Megan Kelly. Welcome to The Megan Kelly Show and episode four of our special series, Megan Kelly Investigates. We're tackling the disappearance of baby Lisa. She vanished from her crib in the middle of the night in October of 2011. Today, she'd be a teenager. But where is she and who took her? Someone knows.

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Neither Kansas City PD nor the FBI would talk to us. And philanthropist Christy Haas Schiller's offer of a $100,000 reward for any information that could lead to the return of Lisa remains unclaimed. If you could write that $100,000 check, it'd probably be the most delightful money you ever spent in your life. Absolutely.

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And so if he really did move the body and was paid $15,000 to move the body from the original burial site, I mean, there's a lot of buzz around Dane Greathouse and a few different lines into him. Again, we don't know if they're true. This is just as reflected in the police report.

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Dane Greathouse did speak with us, telling us he was questioned by police. He told us he knew who Boris Dubinsky was, but did not actually know the man. He also said he never moved anything, nor was he paid anything. We found him living at home with his mother where he was participating in drug court, an alternative to jail that offers treatment and education.

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Dane followed up with a text that read in part, I'm glad you guys came over and talked. Honestly, I just hope this can bring light to the case and in time things get solved. Boris Dubinsky also told us he had nothing to do with baby Lisa's disappearance. He said he was once in the same jail with Chad Huber, that he knows what Huber said about him, but that none of it is true.

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Matt Shaver told us there were indeed photos of the riverbank stored on his PlayStation memory card. He said police confiscated that card, and when they did, they told him the photos had originated on Cody Allnut's phone. He says he has no idea if they were pictures of a gravesite. As these pictures show, there was a search done along the banks of the Missouri River. No body was found.

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What Cody Allnut saw or did not see, we may never know. We were not able to speak with him. We did speak with his father, Larry, who told us Cody has schizophrenia. Larry Allnut is his son's limited guardian and conservator. He told us the FBI interviewed Cody once around the time Lisa disappeared and never returned.

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As for Megan Wright, Megan, have you heard the name Cody Allnut or Boris Dubinsky? Have you heard those names?

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But she does remember Matt Shaver, who gave her a place to stay all those years ago.

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Did the Kansas City police investigate any of these claims or come to a conclusion about this cast of characters? We don't know because they won't say. When we called and asked, they again told us they will not comment on a so-called open investigation. And we are not the only ones being ignored by the Kansas City PD.

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According to Jeremy, they have received not a single update on their missing daughter in the last 10 years. I find it appalling that they haven't contacted you in years. You don't even get an annual phone call from a police officer saying, we're still looking into it, we haven't forgotten about you?

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While 42-year-old John Tanko, known as Jersey, may seem to have been the best suspect given his criminal history and that mysterious call from the Irwins' stolen phone to the phone of Tanko's ex-girlfriend, Megan Wright, on the night baby Lisa went missing, no arrests were ever made. In 2011, police said they'd moved on from Tanko.

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You know, it should be easier for police. Police have all sorts of investigatory abilities and powers that we don't have to figure out who was where, when, what the phone records of that person show and what their actions were.

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Reporter Jim Spellman, who covered the case extensively, has a different view.

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So to those who think, oh, the Kansas City police botched this, you know, they just they failed to investigate properly. We would have found her if we had a more robust police department on the case. You don't agree with that.

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John Jersey Tanko was questioned by the police at the time. He denies any involvement and the case remains open. Did the FBI ever tell you, Megan, that you were cleared? I realize you only had that one six hour meeting. Did they ever? Or the Kansas City PD? Megan Wright.

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And there appears to have been little to no movement on this case in the nearly 13 years since it started. Jeremy and Deborah have been left in limbo. There were yearly vigils.

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As for Jeremy Irwin and Deborah Bradley, it's been dark narratives, 12 years of missing their baby girl, and a struggle to stay together.

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Their relationship came to an end in the summer of 2022, and Debra moved out of their home on North Lister.

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And you still, notwithstanding the fact that you're separated from Deborah, you still believe in her. It hasn't caused you to doubt her.

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And occasional interviews, including one with me that aired in January 2014. When I interviewed you a couple years ago, Deborah, you said even back then you were looking in the crowd whenever you pass a child who would be Lisa's age.

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What's your best hope of where she's been these past 12 years?

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If she just has no idea that she's actually someone else's child.

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Do you ever wonder whether it would be easier if you knew one way or the other what had happened? Even if the outcome were bad, that you had a confirmation that she had passed, would that somehow be easier?

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Jeremy would rather never know, and he and Deborah didn't make it. Bill Stanton spent a lot of time with Deborah and Jeremy. He joined me, along with our other go-to crime expert, Phil Houston.

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What did you make of the fact that in my interview with Deborah, she was saying, this did jump out at me, she was saying things like, there's an example of a mother who found her daughter after 16 years. There's an example of a father who found his kid after X years. I went to 23andMe and I gave my DNA. I went to Ancestry.com and I gave my DNA there just in case she finds it.

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I realize even somebody who had done something would be smart enough to say, Present tense, present tense, present tense. So that's okay. I'll check that to the side. But doing things like that, I believe her that she did searches for a child who came back. Why would you do that if you knew your child was no longer alive?

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That leads me back to these police reports that you guys have seen, these interview reports that we managed to get our hands on. And they talk about how these alleged petty criminals around this case allegedly, again, this very much could be crooks trying to lower their sentences and give police fake little gold nuggets.

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But they talk about having seen pictures of a grave site, pictures of a mound of dirt. Somebody allegedly brought the baby in a black garbage bag and buried it. Like, there's some of that out there. I mean, it's possible that she did the same thing, that that's all made up, but that she did actually bring the baby out there and that the baby was buried. And this same Keystone cop force

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The greatest thing I think Debra's got in her favor, you tell me if I'm wrong, Bill, is Phil Houston.

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I just can't get past the fact that the human lie detector, CIA 25 years, breaking terrorists, breaking double agents, seeing the deception where no one else could, that that guy got fooled by Deborah Bradley. I don't believe it.

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Do you ever feel bitter, Jeremy? You know, I would feel, I think I'd feel bitter, you know, that, that my child was taken, that I didn't get this time that if she's still out there, I've missed so much.

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Coming up in our next episode, Jersey John Tanko, the man everyone wants to know more about. We found him. And wait until you hear what he told me. We'll see you tomorrow for the final episode. Don't miss that. But first, if you're watching right now, please take a look at this picture of Lisa as she might look now.

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If you're listening, you can see the photo on YouTube or just go to megankelly.com. If you see her or think you might have any information that can help find her, please write to me. The address is megan, M-E-G-Y-N, at megankelly.com. You can also pass along tips on the baby Lisa story to the Kansas City Police Department or encourage them to get active on this case. That would be very helpful.

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Deborah's aunt, Cindy Lorette, has been relentless, constantly searching for clues, trying to piece together what may have happened.

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Kansas City moms Missy Rasmussen and Jackie Heller, who are writing a book about this case, have spent more than a decade looking for leads. Where did that take you? What did you find?

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Was your theory starting to develop in a different direction from where the mainstream narrative was going, Missy?

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Much of what they've heard is secondhand and goes to some very dark places, to drug dens, to baby brokers, to terrible conclusions. My understanding is that you guys have spoken to at least five people about this theory, that some criminal element somehow connected to the family was responsible for this, and that at least three of them mentioned the sale, the sale of a baby.

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In 2021, Deborah said much the same to a local reporter. What are you sure of, Deborah?

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You believe she was sold? Absolutely. To add to that theory, one month after Lisa went missing, Deborah and Jeremy found a charge on a debit card, $69.04, paid to a British company that called itself a name-changing service. This is one of the theories that, of course, puzzles me. How would the person wanting to steal baby Lisa...

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think that they were going to get away with stealing baby Lisa on this night where the mother is at home?

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So if it has to do with drugs, in other words, they might have been out of their minds.

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If we think that there might have been a criminal drug element involved in this, and you guys have been out there investigating this for all this time, you know, pretty publicly, is there any fear on your part about your safety?

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Do you ever like do your own investigation start talking to people about what they know what they saw? Jeremy Irwin.

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Other storylines that have circulated amongst the locals involve Deborah interacting with the drug underworld, possible urban myths with no proof, including one that baby Lisa was handed off to pay a drug debt. Was there anything that you, looking back, may have done to bring any of that cast of characters into your life?

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And you and Debra never went there, scored drugs, called for anything from anybody connected to that place?

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Did they ever accuse you or Jeremy of being on drugs or having a connection to this house? Debra Bradley.

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So I ask you for the record, have you been on drugs? Were you on drugs around the time Lisa went missing? Absolutely not. And how about Jeremy? Absolutely not. It just wasn't your thing. You were not somebody who partook.

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Mm-hmm. You don't do crystal meth, and you didn't do crystal meth at the time she disappeared. Oh, God, no. No. No. Okay. Yeah, because I'm sure you've heard that some people theorize you or Jeremy had a connection to this drug den and brought this cast of nefarious characters into your life, and one of them took her.

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Reporter Jim Spellman covered the case for weeks after the story broke.

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And now you are going to hear the absolute worst, darkest versions. Again, these are most likely urban myths. We just don't know about what may have happened to Lisa. And we do need to warn you, they come with awful, grisly details. Author Jackie Heller.

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What you're saying is you've talked to people who think they know what happened and who say the baby was killed.

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We managed to get our hands on police documents with equally dark testimonials. These are supplemental interview reports that police do not make public. They reflect interviews with two different men who claim to know something about the Baby Lisa case.

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We have confirmed the case file numbers on these reports, and we've spoken with both men, Chad Huber and the second man interviewed who asked us not to use his name. They confirmed their conversations with Kansas City Police Officer Michael Wells, the very same name that appears in these documents. It appears that Officer Wells was investigating a car theft ring, among other things.

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We discussed these police interviews with co-authors Missy Rasmussen and Jackie Heller. These are follow-up interviews with people who have been charged with unrelated, you know, petty crimes, theft crimes and so on, just a few months after baby Lisa disappeared. And this is a police interview with someone named Chad Huber. Do you guys know that name? Have you heard of Chad Huber? No. Okay.

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So back in 2012, Chad Huber apparently had thoughts on baby Lisa and named three new people with a possible connection to this case. Three new names we have not discussed in this series. Matt Shaver. Boris Dubinsky, and Cody Allnut. Huber also mentions one that you'll be familiar with, Dane Greathouse. This is complicated and a lot to follow. Bear with me.

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According to the interviews, Chad Huber, car thief suspect, tells cops that Cody Allnut, an 18-year-old who, according to his father, was hanging out with a bad crowd, wanted to talk to Chad about baby Lisa. Chad Huber tells police, presumably based on that conversation with Cody Allnut, that baby Lisa is dead.

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And while the documents do not reveal anything about how, Chad Huber says several people are involved. Dane Greathouse, the same guy who allegedly had the phone, called by the Irwins' stolen cell phone the night Lisa went missing, was paid to move Lisa's deceased body, says Huber, from one grave site to another. Who? Who paid him? According to Huber, it was convicted criminal Boris Dubinsky.

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Huber tells police, as reflected in these documents, Dubinsky paid $15,000 for the transfer. Why would he do that? And where would this guy possibly get 15 grand? What's more, according to a 2012 police interview, Huber tells cops that Matt Shaver, the owner of that house in which Megan Wright was doing drugs on the night Lisa went missing, had pictures, pictures the cops might want to see.

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First, can I just ask you for your reaction to that excerpt? Interesting. Very, very interesting. What is interesting about it to you?

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There's tremendous optimism out there. The White House touting better than expected inflation numbers as markets shake in anticipation of further tariffs.

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The core inflation rate, which excludes more volatile items like food and energy, also cooled to 3.1%, down from 3.2%. both figures coming in lower than analysts had predicted. The Federal Reserve's target rate for inflation is 2%. GasBuddy reporting the average price of gas dropping for the third straight week, now at $3.03 per gallon.

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That's the lowest average price for gasoline in the month of March since 2021. President Trump reacting positively to the news from the White House.

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A key piece of the Trump administration's economic plan, unlocking oil production. On his first day in office, Mr. Trump signing orders, increasing oil and gas drilling on public lands and offshore areas, reversing previous restrictions. Some additional context, putting the new economic numbers in perspective.

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The only tariffs in place in February were the initial 10 percent duties on Chinese imports. Wednesday markets swinging wildly, the S&P 500 and Nasdaq ultimately rising as investors weigh a solid inflation report with anticipation of more expected tariff increases.

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President Trump seated next to Irish Prime Minister Micheál Martin in the Oval Office, again signaling his trade war is just getting started.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Thursday, March 13th, 2025. And this is your AM Update.

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Next week, the Federal Reserve is set to announce a decision on interest rates. While President Trump has repeatedly called for the rates to be lowered, the Fed operates independently from the government. Last Friday, Fed Chair Jerome Powell saying they're in no hurry to make any adjustments, suggesting interest rates are likely to stay in their current range, 4.25 to 4.5 percent.

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A new CNN poll shows Americans may be souring on the tariff wars, 61 percent of Americans disapproving of the use of tariffs compared to 39 percent who approve. Overall, on the economy, 56% say they disapprove versus 44% approving, worse than at any point during President Trump's first term in office.

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The government shutdown deadline ticking even closer now as the Senate weighs this six month funding extension. The bill requires 60 votes to pass in the Senate, meaning some Democrat support is required. In the lead up to the House vote on Tuesday, Senate Dems talking tough, calling the bill horrible and a power grab by President Trump and Elon Musk.

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Despite earlier tough talks, some Democrats balk at the prospect of a government shutdown. President Trump suggests he's ready to inflict economic pain on the Russians as Kremlin officials react coldly to calls for a ceasefire. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update.

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Now, with the possibility of forcing a shutdown in their hands, some Dems are balking.

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Pennsylvania Senator John Fetterman telling reporters he will vote yes. The Hill reporting one unnamed Senate Democrat saying, quote, I can't say we have a strategy. There are a lot of people who haven't made a decision. Independent Senator from Maine, Angus King, who typically votes with the Democrats, telling the Washington Post, quote, it's a choice between two terrible alternatives.

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Some Dems are worried a shutdown will backfire on them, allowing the Doge team to permanently shutter even more of the government. In a shutdown, non-essential employees are furloughed and essential employees continue working. The Post reporting some Dems argue a shutdown could allow Doge to more easily cut the employees deemed non-essential.

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Democrat Senator from Virginia Tim Kaine leaving his options open, telling Politico he would like some amendments added to this bill. However, any additional amendments would need to be approved by the House, which is not likely to agree on anything that increases government spending. The deadline is 11.59 p.m. on Friday.

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Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer saying his party is united, which is not true, and that right now the GOP does not have the votes to avoid a shutdown. Coming up, U.S. diplomats bringing an offer of peace to the Kremlin as President Trump suggests a willingness to ratchet up pressure on the Russians. And the Department of Education slashed by a whopping 50 percent.

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The Russian army is close to surrounding 10,000 Ukrainian troops in the Kursk region of Russia. Ukraine captured this bit of Russian territory last August, once floating the idea of exchanging it back for captured Ukrainian territory. Most of it, however, has been regained by Russia, but not all. In recent days, the Ukrainian hold on the area falling into serious jeopardy

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with Russian President Vladimir Putin on Wednesday telling his forces any captured Ukrainian soldiers in Kursk will be treated as terrorists. As the battlefield erupts in chaos, peace negotiators diligently strive to broker a ceasefire. President Trump and Vice President J.D. Vance expressing cautious optimism on the next stages of ending the war.

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Secretary of State Marco Rubio plainly laying out the stakes for both sides.

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Special Envoy Steve Witkoff is traveling to Russia for in-person negotiations. In advance of his arrival, Kremlin officials responding coldly to the Ukrainian acceptance of a ceasefire. The Guardian reporting a Russian foreign ministry spokesperson as saying, quote, Moscow will make its own decisions about the war and not follow the lead set by Washington and Kyiv. The

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Mr. Lavrov adding, quote, it is impossible to rely on the goodwill of opponents who have declared the goal of inflicting strategic defeat on Russia. Despite earlier Western criticism that President Trump was too lenient on Russia in negotiations, Mr. Trump now signaling a willingness to apply plenty of pressure, just as he did with Ukraine.

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President Trump taking the most dramatic action yet to put an end to the Department of Education, slashing its workforce by 50 percent. The move marking a significant escalation in his longstanding push to reduce the federal government's size and specifically its role in education. The department enshrined in a law by Congress would require an act of Congress to be fully abolished.

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But with a divided legislature, that battle could take years. In the meantime, Education Secretary Linda McMahon telling Fox exactly what was cut and what stays, at least for now.

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Individuals with Disabilities Act. The administration insisting essential, congressionally mandated funding remains intact. Heads of the teachers unions arguing the cuts are an attack on public education.

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Since the inception of the Department of Education in 1979, spending on public education has skyrocketed. U.S. public schools spend an average of more than $16,000 per student each year, a 13% increase over the previous 10 years. In that same time, overall test scores have shown little to zero improvement. President Trump telling reporters the education department is the easiest to make cuts from.

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The Trump administration aims to restructure education funding, focusing on block grants that would allow states more freedom to choose how to educate their students. Former Columbia University student agitator Mahmoud Khalil remains in a Louisiana ICE detention facility today.

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Mr. Khalil did not attend Wednesday's packed courthouse hearing, the first step in his court battle to prevent deportation. Mr. Khalil, born in Syria. Khalil filed his challenge in the Southern District of New York. Government officials requesting a change of venue, arguing that the SDNY is not the appropriate jurisdiction. It's also not the most conservative one.

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Federal prosecutors urging the judge to move the trial to New Jersey, where Mr. Khalil was first detained, or to Louisiana, where he is currently being held. Khalil was a prominent organizer of the Columbia University protests last year that led to clashes with police and more than 100 arrests.

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Students established a Gaza Solidarity encampment on campus, often chanting anti-Israel, anti-Semitic slogans and blocking Jewish students' access to campus spaces. The group Mr. Khalil represented as a master's degree candidate, Columbia University Apartheid Divest, reportedly sympathizes with terrorist groups Hamas and Hezbollah and seeks the, quote, end of Western civilization.

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Mr. Khalil's attorney saying in a statement their client was, quote, chosen as an example to stifle entirely lawful dissent in violation of the First Amendment. Secretary of State Marco Rubio, who oversees green card allocation, responding on Wednesday.

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Mr. Khalil's lawyers are expected to file an updated version of their petition later today. And that'll do it for your AM update. I'm Megyn Kelly. Join me back here all week for our special series, Megyn Kelly Investigates, on the disappearance of baby Lisa Irwin, a 10-month-old girl who disappeared from her crib in the dark of night.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. As President Trump declared on Truth Social, three great weeks, perhaps the best ever. And it honestly might be, at least when it comes to presidential politics. And this morning, an incredible win for the Make America Healthy Again movement.

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Pam Bondi, who's starting her own offensive lawfare against some of these excesses. Go ahead, Ashbrek.

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We'll explain with the fellows from Ruthless today, Josh Holmes, Michael Duncan, and John Ashbrook. You can find all of their work at RuthlessPodcast.com. And congratulations are in order. Ruthless is taping its 500th episode live on February 19th in Washington, D.C., Four years of crushing interest rates, runaway inflation, and reckless government spending, and who is paying the price? You are.

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That's a really good point about Riverdance. And then we have that for free. We didn't even have to subsidize that. All right. I want to play one other soundbite. Caroline Leavitt, the White House press secretary, was getting into some of this yesterday. Here she is inside eight.

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Okay, now here's where I want to go on this point. They are winning the lawfare, but with every injunction saying you can't review spending, you can't review personnel, you have to restore trans webpages at the CDC. I mean, it's crazy the micromanaging that these federal courts are trying to do of the executive branch.

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We are getting closer to the executive branch really being forced to consider telling the judicial branch to pound sand. That's I mean, that is potential crisis. I don't know. It's I don't consider it constitutional crisis until we get to the Supreme Court. But how much does the Trump administration need to take? Like it.

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how do they have to listen to these federal judges saying, put that webpage back up? What in the actual F? And it's happening. There's over 50 lawsuits filed so far. Lots of these judges are Obama appointees, Clinton appointees, who are Biden appointees, who are far left activists, who are just having some fun trying to thwart the Trump agenda. And

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And I I do think at some point the Trump administration may be even though Trump's saying I will abide by the rulings, I'm not looking at the worth the rule of law in any way, either directly with a written statute or if it's issued against me by a judge. But at some point, if this continues, it's almost like the Trump administration is not going to have a choice. Are they?

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I'll give you another example. Over the weekend, the Treasury Department got issued a temporary restraining order, which you can get... You get like that. You don't even need opposing counsel. What happens is you go into court and you say, Elon is letting... Big balls take a look at people's financial information and big balls doesn't have the security clearances.

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And judge, you need to stop that right now. The judge doesn't say, oh, get Elon and Trump's and Treasury's lawyer in here. The judge just says, okay, I issue a temporary restraining order. You can always get a temporary restraining order without opposing counsel. That's how you normally do it. And then that just stays in place for like 48 hours or 72 hours until both parties can get in.

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It just sort of preserves the status quo until you can get to the preliminary hearing. So the judge issued this TRO. But in this TRO, the judge said, OK, stop. Stop letting big balls and anybody else look at the Treasury information and shred all documents you've gotten already. Shred everything.

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So this judge, who, by the way, wasn't even the real assigned judge on this case, just like a temporary fill in and a lefty appointed by, I think, Obama. tells them you have to undermine all the work you've done and undo everything you've done by pulling records that you're going to use to figure out where we're spending the people's money.

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before we even have a real hearing on the case, before your lawyers really had any chance whatsoever to defend you, right? That's activism. And why should the Trump administration actually be forced to start shredding documents before it's even had a lawyer appear before a judge? Like they're trying to create a constitutional crisis is, I guess, the point I'm making.

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And it's so annoying listening to the press coverage of it because they just say, oh, constitutional crisis, you know, because of that tweet and because they just don't like Trump and because Trump's not rolling over in these court proceedings.

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But what's what's really happened here is we've had a dereliction of duty and an overstepping of the authority by the Biden administration and other, I'm sure, leftist administrations prior. We know that happened during Obama and Trump got smart by, by, you know, Trump 2.0 when it comes to fighting the administrative state and bit by bit, he is undoing their soft power agenda.

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He's, he now knows like where the soft spot in the belly is and he's sticking the knife in and trying to get back our funds and stop this crazy agenda that nobody voted for. That's been rolling forward. Administration under administration doesn't matter whether it's a Republican or Dem at the top. And man, are they pissed. Now they're like, now it's on.

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Now you're actually going to things we care about, which is like our slush funds. So I think he will prevail on the law front, on the law fair. But man, it's going to be a slugfest. And in the meantime, they are staying on the offense, which is good.

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Like Pam Bondi yesterday, she announced on the heels of announcing they're suing Illinois for being a sanctuary state and Chicago as sanctuary city, saying you can't do that. There's, you know, thanks to the supremacy clause, you actually do have to work with us on federal laws. You can't actively undermine us on housing illegals and not turning over illegals that you know are illegals.

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Now she filed a lawsuit against New York State, including Governor Kathy Hochul, for similar reasons. When it comes to illegals in particular, she's taking issue with the fact that they're issuing illegals driver's licenses. And then when the feds call up saying, do you have an illegal immigrant by the name of whatever, Julio something?

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Instead of saying, oh yeah, we have him right here at the Roosevelt Hotel, which is where- Lakin Riley's would-be murderer stayed on the taxpayer's dime. Instead of saying, yeah, he's at the Roosevelt, we'll go ahead over. Or even in New York jail, at Rikers, for having committed a crime, they say, we're not going to tell you. And then they notify the illegal.

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New York then calls the illegal at the Roosevelt or notifies them at Rikers to say, Hey, FYI, the feds are looking for you. So if they can flee, they do. And what happened with Lake and Riley's, uh, murderer? I don't know that that notification happened with him, but he was staying at the Roosevelt on our dime. And then on our dime, we flew him down South.

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And that's where he murdered Lake and Riley in Georgia, all funded by us. So she is trying Pam Bondi now to stay on offense. In addition to having, she's the one who's going to have to defend all this bullshit happening against Elon, against treasury, against all these programs that they're trying to look into.

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Now she's also trying to stay on offense by going after Illinois, by going after New York. And she's going to have these other battles on her hands as they continue in places like Maine and Minnesota. And there's a third state that I can't remember right now that are saying they're not going to comply with the gender laws. executive orders or president Trump's yeah.

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And to California or even the federal district court judges ruling, which applies nationwide that Biden's changes to title nine are void and illegal, which means boys cannot vote. play in girls sports in K through 12 education, because it's, it's a discriminate and that's a statute that protects girls in sports and their right to equal participation.

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Anyway, what we have is open flouting of the law by the Democrats. I mean, it's ubiquitous flouting coast to coast. And I mean, it's, I guess it's a great thing. It's being exposed in the way it is. But I think most people, you guys tell me in the audience will tell me are like, wow, it's a lot. My head hurts.

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Yeah, it could be generational. That's a very good point. By the way, since we are relentlessly factual here at the MK show, the trans opera was in Columbia. The DEI musical was in Ireland. But to your point, DEI musical in Ireland is really, now we're getting even closer to what we see on Riverdance. Yeah.

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So that covers the landscape, which I hope the audience appreciates is a confusing landscape, but hopefully we've summarized it to a level you can grasp. It's hard work to figure out what's happening with the lawfare and Doge and all the cutting and so on. But the bottom line is Trump's winning. His executive powers will be affirmed as they have been bit by bit in these lower courts.

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And I think if this thing goes up to the Supreme Court, any of these things, testing what Trump has the power to do, Only in the most extreme cases are they going to slap his hand because the Supreme Court has no enforcement mechanism. This has been the truth about the Article 3 courts from the dawn of the Constitution.

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They're all afraid because they really don't have any real way of making the executive branch comply. It's kind of like a... Because we said so, a situation for a parent. And because of separation of powers, everybody has obeyed the courts since the dawn of time. I mean, that's for the most part, that's just the respect that we have.

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But all those Article 3 judges need to be very careful because if they push the executive too far- especially this executive, they will trigger a constitutional crisis that will leave them feckless and powerless in a dangerous and provocative way. And while some of these federal district court judges are truly too stupid to understand that. I mean, we saw all these DEI hires under Obama.

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I think you should close in. Seriously. This is disrespectful. Holmes, you should move on over. We'll just shoot the three of you. Fuck Smug. He can come to the next one.

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We saw some of these confirmation hearings that get through. These judges were absolute idiots. They didn't understand anything about the Constitution, but they had the right DEI profile. And so they got confirmed by a Democrat-controlled Senate. So some are idiots, but the Supreme Court is not idiotic. and it is still controlled by the conservatives, and they will do the right thing in the end.

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So proceed at your own peril. Proceed at your own peril, lower court judges and Democrats. You will rue the day in the end. And that leads me... Okay, first I wanted to say this, because I'm about to go to McConnell, your old boss. But I did want to make the point about the FBI leaking, maybe, according to, you know, Kristi Noem and Tom Homan. They think it was the FBI who leaked that...

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they were about to raid that Colorado apartment complex, Ashbrook, that we were talking about, and gave a heads up to gang members so they could get out and Tom Holman couldn't get them. Aren't you so glad that we have Kash Patel coming in as the head of MSI now?

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Every soundbite I've ever heard from him, I'm now like, shoot it into my veins, right? He's got swagger. He can be kind of an asshole, but like in a good way. And he won't take crap from anybody. I'm like, run, run. Don't walk to FBI HQ, Kash Patel. Actually, wait, we have for the audience members who don't know him as well. Here's a little bit of Kash Patel on Sean Ryan.

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Let's wait until he gets his ears in, and then now we're going to figure out why he's late again. Now, Smug, you understand that The Megyn Kelly Show has millions, millions of listeners, and we're one of the top shows in the country, both overall and certainly within news. What is it about making the 12 o'clock deadline that seems impossible for you?

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OK, so let's switch to McConnell, because I have to say I'm not one of those rabid McConnell haters. I'm not. And I know there are a lot on Team Trump and I get I get it. Totally get it. But I like I personally I can't get over all the good he did for the country when it comes to Article three judges. and the Supreme Court.

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We would not have the Supreme Court that we have if it weren't for Mitch McConnell. He is a true blue conservative, dyed-in-the-wool Republican. But he hates Trump, and Trump hates him. And this has turned into a problem for Republicans and Trump in the country. And now he's voted against Hegseth, Tulsi, and RFKJ, which leads us where?

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On Mitch McConnell, guys, I hate to put you on the crosshairs because I know, you know, you know, it's a fair question.

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If it were spiteful, Holmes, if it were spiteful, he would have voted against Rubio.

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Yeah, he's more like a National Review Republican still. That's right. Those guys, too. That's right. They they don't they actually some have TDS. But like Rich Lowry, he's great. He doesn't have TDS. He actually can see Trump pretty clearly, but he disagrees with him on a few things. And he's constantly defending him on many other things. But yeah, I don't think he's a Tulsi fan.

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Again, again. I don't get mad after the first time, but this is a pattern. Next time, you're banned. That's it. We have banned people for not making their hits. They're very popular people who continue to fuck us over. Sorry. I'm in a mood today. It's crazy. I'm actually not irritated at you, Smug. I love you. But you should be.

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I don't actually don't remember. But I know the editors have not backed Tulsi and they have not backed RFKJ. So I take your point. I actually think that's pretty interesting. And that's a position he's allowed to have. I mean, he's how many years of public service does the guy have?

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But when you find yourself on the opposite end of Trump, especially as a Republican like he is, you know, the party will turn on you. That's what's happening to him. And I hate to see it because I think he's a good man. I think he's a principled man.

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And the party apparatus is just like turned on him because he seems like a Trump antagonist, even though like Trump said all the mean things about his wife. I mean, it's like... It's complicated.

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Because we try very hard to avoid getting too deep into the budget here on the MK show for all sorts of reasons. I refer you back to my high school guidance counselors. College recommendation for me. It was my college recommendation. Megan does well in English and social studies. Math and science aren't Meg's thing. In my recommendation. Who writes that?

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Anyway, so I try to avoid the math when I can. But what's going to happen with the budget is going to be probably the most consequential thing of the Trump presidency.

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And the thing about budget reconciliation is... The Democrats can't block that. They don't need 60 votes. The Republicans don't need 60 votes to get a vote on basically financial matters, on the budget. They only need a majority of 51. And they have that. They have 53 Republican senators, so they can afford to lose a couple. They actually only need 50 because they have J.D.

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Vance who could break a tie. But they've got a majority, so they should be able to get the budget through that the Republicans want. unless some go rogue. And you're saying Mitch McConnell could be the stalwart that keeps, because it will be controversial. They'll be shoving a lot into that reconciliation bill because they don't need a 60 vote, you know, 60 votes in the Senate to get

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cloture, meaning a vote on it at all. They have a low threshold to pass it. So they're going to shove a lot of stuff in there that they want. It's going to be controversial, which will cause some more moderate Republicans to try to peel off. And your point is it's in that moment in which Mitch McConnell's true influence in the Senate could prove pivotal.

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I'm irritated at the lawfare that is being unleashed against Trump's agenda. at every turn. And now it's like this administration is having to play whack-a-mole in the courts instead of just enacting the people's will. Every day it's another lawsuit to try to stop what Trump clearly has the power to do.

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Well, that is very interesting. Do you see... I don't really want to get too deep into it, but everyone's debating, should there be two bills or one? And I don't understand really what that's about. And I don't really want to, but could you explain it to me like I'm a third grader, what that debate is about?

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And what I see after the whole morning researching this bullshit, okay, that's like three swears within the first three minutes. My apologies to the people who have their kids watching this, is that Trump's winning. He's winning these cases, right? But the Think of the distraction by his lawyers, by his federal agencies, everything Elon's doing. They're trying to stop bit by bit. We can't.

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Wow. There's so much coming our way. All right. I'm going to take a pause, take a break. I'm going to come back. There's a lot to discuss. RFKJ confirmed this morning by the full Senate. He is now about to be sworn in as our Secretary of Health and Human Services. What a momentous event in our country. I mean, it's absolutely spectacular.

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the Senate voted to confirm Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as the Secretary of Health and Human Services. This just happened on the Senate floor.

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And here's the kicker. Use code MK at checkout for 10% off your order. Don't wait. This offers only for a limited time. firecracker.farm and use code MK for 10% off. RFKJ is confirmed and I'm thrilled about this. I couldn't care less about his stance on abortion or even the trans issue because I think he will not undermine Trump's stance on those issues.

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I believe he wants this job very badly and does not want to get fired. So he's not going to undermine Trump's agenda on those items and Trump's been really clear on those items. I do care about chronic disease, our children, our food supply, conflicts of interest at the FDA, the disgusting CDC, FDA, NIH, and he's going to run roughshod over all those in a great way. He's the Kash Patel.

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He is to these organizations what Kash Patel is to the FBI, and we desperately need it. And I have to say there's something, I don't know, kind of sweet and kind of emotional about it for me because I'm just going to take you back to spring of 2022. All right, first, actually, I'm going to go back further.

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Joe Biden, during the COVID pandemic, when he was censoring us all, those of us on the right who had questions about anything, got censored, how COVID started, are the vaccines safe, all that stuff. And there was this crazy ass day at the White House where they read a list of the so-called disinformation dozen.

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And it was people who were questioning his dogma, you know, at his, the CDC's, the NIH's, almost all of which turned out to be false. And big tech went along with the censorship. Here is a clip of that day.

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Okay. So RFKJ was at the top of the disinformation dozen list. And that was July of 2021. He dropped his book on the real Anthony Fauci, which even I was like, I don't trust him. I'm not going to read that book. And then my friend in this great moment when we were skiing was like, you know, you might want to give it a try.

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And all Elon's doing right now is trying to get information. What is the Treasury paying out to whom? All of Trump's cabinet heads like Treasury EPA out there, like what what grants have we given in the in the waning days of the Biden administration and to whom against the taxpayers wish? It's just boondoggle. They've just been like, throwing money off of a sinking ship, the Biden administration.

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And I was like, well, you might want to be careful because garbage in, garbage out. And she's like, I mean, I love this woman. She's very smart and she's not some nutcase. And she was like, you know, maybe just take a look. So I trusted her. I did start to take a look. And I was like, well, this is actually kind of interesting. I don't like Fauci, so I'm kind of open-minded to it.

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One thing led to another. And I asked my team to take a look at this book and then start taking a look at RFKJ. And then what we did was we started calling all of his worst critics. And hearing all the terrible things they had to say about him and then calling other people like going down the line, try to figure out whether they sounded like people we trust and we should listen to or not.

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And long story short, they sounded much more like agenda driven Biden supporters who didn't want discussions about lab leaks and so on. And we decided to invite him on the show. So it was the spring of 2022, March of 2022. I was going through this terrible thing where my son, at the time, we were skiing... tore his spleen in three places. He was only eight. Yeah. And it was like serious.

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He was in the ICU for a week. It was this whole, it's still my number one or number two most watched video ever. I went on the air. I just had to talk about it because it was like, I'm in the midst of this. I'm just going to share with you what's happening. And that was the week I had to tape the raps for the RFKJ interview that we had done, but we did it and we got it out there. And

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He came out, he sounded so reasonable. All right, so here's how he sounded that day. And I remember we talked about like his voice issue and he was like, oh, I have this condition and I'm sorry, my voice actually isn't doing that well today, has good days and bad days.

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And then he kind of made a point about how he was still a Democrat, but he was a bit of a disaffected Democrat when he looked around at his own party. Listen here.

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He had been banned from all social media platforms, virtually all. I think maybe one allowed him. At that point, nobody would talk to him. I think Tucker had spoken to him and nobody else. He specifically complained that he couldn't get on Joe Rogan. He just wasn't getting any doors open because, like my own bias, most people were looking at him thinking he's a kook.

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That's all we ever heard about him. And it seemed universal. So, you know, people have busy lives. They don't really spend a lot of time trying to rehabilitate some random figure. And we had a very contentious, but robust and great four hours together, half about vaccines, half about personal. And I really came to like and respect him. And shortly thereafter, doors started to open for him.

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People felt like they could put him on. And that interview lived on all platforms. It didn't get deplatformed or demonetized or clipped anywhere. Not on TikTok, not on Insta, not on YouTube, nowhere. It lived everywhere. And it was the beginning of a resurgence for him that ultimately resulted in him running for president. Two years later, he came back on the show.

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He had been on he's been on a few many times now. But and this is what he said.

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Trump and Elon are like, whoa, whoa, whoa, let's hold on. Let's just see. We don't approve this and we can stop it. The Democrats sue them saying you have to allot the funds because Biden said so or Congress said so. And you're not even allowed to access who's getting paid what by whom in some of these agencies. And And bit by bit, Trump is winning and will continue to win.

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Oh, that was all so silly. And I'm thrilled to see you out there with your message and doing so well as you should be. That whole thing was so nonsensical. And now here we are in February of 2025, and that man has just been confirmed by a majority of the Senate losing only Mitch McConnell on the Republican side, 52-48.

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to be our next, not just any position, but Secretary of Health and Human Services. It's been a monumental comeback for him. And he did it through his own hard work and refusal to stay quiet and refusal to stay down when he was blacklisted by the White House as a disinformation officer. And

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And, you know, I really think I feel so hopeful, you guys, because this whole movement, this Maha movement is his. And that's why Trump put him in this position. I think he really did help Trump get elected. And I'm thrilled he has the green light to start enacting true reform. What do you guys make?

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He's got ideas. Like maybe we should test them, kick them around a bit. You know, I was going to say it's not just him, but like, I don't think Tulsi would have been confirmed if it weren't for digital media, independent media. No question. I don't know about cash. Maybe not him either. And definitely not RFKJ.

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But this is the most subversive shit. Okay, that's four. That's four within the first four minutes.

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Even, you know, Tucker had him on his podcast that he was doing over on Fox nation, but they wouldn't let him on Fox news channel. Like RFKJ would still be in the, you know, Off to the sidelines if it weren't for independent media. And there was no way he could rehabilitate himself without independent media.

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And I think the same is true of Tulsi, where she was rejected by the Republican establishment. It's amazing. This is a victory, I think, for anybody who supports Maha and the revolutionary things happening when it comes to public health. But it's also, it's a victory for people in our lane. And thank you for saying the nice things about me helping you guys at Ruthless. But here's the truth.

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I have helped and promoted a lot of podcasts and podcasters, and not everybody takes off, guys. You guys are celebrating this great 500th episode and have so many fans because you're amazing. People love the way you tackle the news and your good humor and what a camaraderie you have between the four of you. And I'm one of them.

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So I'm happy to have helped in any small way, but you deserve every ounce of success you've earned yourselves.

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Well, you need the Democrats helped more than that, even because, you know, when I was at Fox and then for that year at NBC, I was more in the center. I was like definitely center right now. I think I'm I'm pretty conservative. I mean, I just am now. I mean, the earth has shifted such that I think I have to say, yes, I by today's standards, you'd call me conservative. But that's thanks to them.

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You know, what they did to me, they were vicious. They're complete assholes. Their woke ideology completely radicalized me against them. And I love that. It empowered me in a way that allowed me to see the truth about them. You know, that was very helpful to me. Like, I wouldn't undo it if I could because it really helped me understand who I was dealing with over there.

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All right, now, Abby did find my recommendation, my high school recommendation. Okay, so you guys, I'll just read you this one. It's literally just a little paragraph at the end. Truly, this is all I had. Nobody wrote anything else. Look at the way we get our kids into college these days. I haven't yet had to fight this battle, but soon, I'm sure, because I have a freshman in high school.

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Right. And literally, I didn't even write a private letter. There was no, there was nothing. It's my guidance counselor. He had to write it. And here I'm going to read to you the first paragraph of this thing. The rest is just perfunctory, but he writes, um, Meg Kelly is a solid student who has taken a strong program in high school.

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Her areas of strength seem to be in language arts and social studies. Meg loves to write and has a real interest in politics and government. Currently, her goal is to become a political journalist. OMG.

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Megan has had to work much harder and achieved less success in math and science.

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In my recommendation. He begged you. What is happening, Mr. Villa? He says, however, her willingness to struggle with these subjects, which are difficult for her, is positive, as is the way she handles herself when she experienced difficulty. Meg knows how to ask for help or take appropriate steps when she encounters a problem. She perseveres in situations and bounces back from adversity.

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All right, Mr. Villa, you landed it. But I mean, did we have to point out the math and science problems in the recommendation letter?

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So you were normal. It's good. I like a red-blooded American man with a bunch of testosterone. They're back. We're back, baby. So speaking of red-blooded American men with testosterone, Trump, in the news for many things, including he is now the chair of the Kennedy Center Board, which is this cultural arts institution called

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That is, so far as I can tell, I don't really know what they do, but every year you get like the awards and you see all these old musicians and actors and other people who you may or may not like, but they're usually on the left getting some sort of recognition by this institution. And Trump... like fired half of the people who were involved in it and replaced them with Trump loyalists.

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And like Usha Vance is now on the board, which is great. I'm thrilled she's there. And then declared himself having won unanimous support to become the new chairman of And CNN airs last night their exclusive audio of Trump speaking to the Kennedy senator board, trying to, you know, get everybody psyched up because it's not all Trump loyalists now. He didn't fire everybody.

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There's still some like old timers still sitting on it. I don't know what led to the firing of some and the firing and the non-firing of others. But here's Trump describing how things are about to change over there. It's not 17.

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Everyone would donate to that. All those rich fat cats. But, you know, you're not wrong, Duncan. Trump is very culturally astute and experienced. We pulled just one example. It's from the 2005 Emmy Awards featuring Donald Trump and actress Megan Mullally.

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We have something from SNL. Stand by. It's from 2015. I don't think that's the one, but it's him doing a parody of Drake's hotline bling. Okay.

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So that explains what's happening, because what's happening is people are resigning. Like the remaining riffraff are, you know, taking their ball and going home because they don't they wouldn't be on any board of which Donald Trump was the chair. Yeah. Sandra Rimes, you know, she created Grey's Anatomy, Bridgerton, Super Woke. She was treasurer for the Kennedy Center board appointed by Obama.

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And she resigned. She resigned shortly after Trump was elected as head saying, please be advised that as of today, Chandra Rimes has resigned from the board of the Kennedy Center. Meanwhile, she did not. She did not express any outrage whatsoever. whatsoever when the Kennedy Center was doing drag shows. That was all just fine with her.

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This is the same woman who expressed her public empathy for Jussie Smollett. Very, very upset. So she tweeted, sending love, healing, and support for Jussie Smollett. We all have a responsibility to rise up against the ignorance and hate out there. If you know who did this, report them to the police.

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She's got a long history of cutting tail and running when Elon took over X. She left not hanging around for whatever Elon has planned by, well, we don't miss you, Chandra. She was on the board of Time's Up, that organization which imploded because it would only help women who'd been harassed by Republicans, but not anyone who'd been harassed by a Democrat. So that's Chandra.

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She's decided to leave, as has... singer and songwriter, Ben folds. You guys might not remember Ben folds, but he was the lead singer of Ben folds five. And he did sing a song, which I love called the luckiest, which I sang to Doug when he turned 40 at his 40th birthday party, believe it or not. I learned how to play it on the guitar.

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I had secret lessons in my office and then I sang it to him and I'm not a singer, but I loved Doug a lot as I still do. And Ben is all about, you know, when you don't like something, get out of it. Cause he's been divorced five times, but really has a judgment on Trump's morality and, uh, is piecing out of the Kennedy center. What do you guys make of it?

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Yeah, you know, you get a sense. And five times. Now that I think about it. That's right.

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Good riddance. They're like, what's going to happen? We're going to be giving Lifetime Achievement Awards to Clint Eastwood and Sly Stallone and Jon Voight. I'm out. Hard pass. All because of their politics. You can do that all day long to somebody on the left. And the right will just suck it up and say, fine, he sings good music. It's fine. I don't care. But you do that.

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You honor somebody who's actually a campaign for Trump or expressed openly that they're a conservative. And it's a hard no. Ben does fold. And Chandra rhymes, too.

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So I can't wait to see what happens at the Kennedy Center. I think it could be actually super fun. Now, speaking of celebrities, Jimmy Kimmel was very upset that Donald Trump took a shot at Taylor Swift. Trump was making fun of the fact that she got booed openly at the Super Bowl and he got cheered to the high heavens. And Jimmy Kimmel didn't much like that and had the following to say.

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Okay. By the way, I was there all the way through and she was gone. She was missing in action for most of the second half. So I don't know what he's talking about. Trump left at his previously designated time, which was, I think, 8.02. That had been scheduled and that is when he left.

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And it's a little harder, Jimmy, when you're the president of the United States, because if you leave when everybody else is leaving, you completely F them over because no one can move anywhere. It's total gridlock in the city. Hello? Hello?

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Right? Like, please like me, Taylor. Please pat me on the head like a good little boy. I don't know. I really think that Taylor Swift's magic has left the building. I think people are over her. It's not that she doesn't have any fans left. She does. She'll still sell lots of records. But I think she peaked and is already on her way down because of overexposure and she got political.

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Those two things really hurt her. It's too much. There's a reason you don't see everyday pictures of Angelina Jolie going to Starbucks or going to work out. It's not because she never does those things. It's because she doesn't call the paparazzi and have them photograph every time she does, or Julia Roberts, for that matter, who I don't love, but she doesn't do this to herself. J-Lo,

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Every turn she got overexposed and she damaged her own brand. And the same happened to Taylor. She said yes to everything. She was too out there at the heiress tour in your face at every turn, every chiefs game dominating the NFL. She didn't have to sit. at every Chiefs game right in the front row when she knew the cameras would get her. Truly. I mean, I was just in one of these suites.

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You can sit toward the back and you don't have to be on the camera if you don't want to. She wanted, she wanted to be in the spot. She wanted the cameras to cut to her. They did. She ate it up and now we're sick of her. She ruined football and we're pissed off she got political. It's not just about the Eagles fans who are very vocal and do hate her, but it's beyond that.

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Okay. I'll see what I can do. I know some people that will be able to make this happen. Yeah. I mean, the world does want more Ashbrook. Who are we kidding? They do. So how was that Ashbrook? You were the first... Well, it's not just podcaster.

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It's like digital media, you know, independent media who now officially have a seat in the White House press briefing room, the most relevant seat there is. And you were the very first one there and the very first person in the seat to ask a question. You did it great. You stood up. You went for it. You were merciless. How did it feel?

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There was one holdout on the Republican side. Again, former Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell. Now he's gone against Hegseth, he's gone against Tulsi, and he's gone against RFKJ, even when here with RFKJ, Murkowski and Collins, and with Tulsi, those two voted for her. So he's become the chief antagonist to Trump among Republicans, but nobody's following him.

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I got a lot of texts from- We'll drop the sod in for the podcast. We don't have it here.

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The nerve of that press corps to have any arrogance whatsoever, right? To think they're better than, as Ashbrook calls it, the nerve.

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Now we're keeping it very spicy. Suckled at the teat. Okay. I feel like I'm following Kanye West's X-Feed. Okay, my eyes have not recovered from what I saw over the weekend. Here are just a couple of examples, okay, I'm going to give you. You recall that they sued to stop Elon, his so-called fork in the road offering, saying to all these federal fat employees, some are skinny. I mean, fat cat.

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Guys, a couple of things in cultural news. Some shocking news from Teddy Mellencamp, who's the daughter of John Mellencamp. And she happens to be one of the stars of Real Housewives of Los Angeles, Beverly Hills. And I'm sure you guys are not big fans of the franchise, but I am. And she's one of the sweet ones. She's not...

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Of course, she gets drawn into these fights that they all get drawn into, but she's been one of the more sensible characters on this show for many years now. And John Mellencamp is definitely a leftist, but I don't care. I love his music. I think he made great songs and I love his sound. And this poor woman who is the mother of three young children has been battling melanoma now for many years.

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And I always pay attention to I mean, to anybody's health stories, but melanoma I live in fear of because I too am very fair. Thank God I've never had melanoma, but you gotta worry about it if you're fair at all. And she's been battling melanoma for a number of years now. She posted publicly not long ago, a picture of her back, which has like almost a Z-shaped scar across the whole back.

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From the numerous melanomas that she's had to have removed time and time again. And you know, you don't mess around with melanoma, right? Like that's, you got to get very serious about that shit. And she has been, she's been all over it. And she's been very vocal about checking, having your skin checks and all that.

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And unfortunately this week she revealed that she was in the hospital as of yesterday. She said, I'm in the hospital because I had very bad headaches. And it turns out they found five brain tumors, two of which they were gonna remove surgically and three of which were smaller and they were gonna attack with radiation.

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And they did not reveal whether these things, I think they just did the surgery yesterday or the day before. So they didn't say whether these are malignant brain tumors, but she's had 17 or 18 or 19 melanomas and they're going to use radiation to get the other three. So it doesn't sound great. And I guess I just wanted to mention it because I do think like skin cancer is one of the few cancers

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There are a couple of others, but you can potentially catch this one early with skin checks. And that's in no way shaming anybody who hasn't caught it early. I just want to remind people, it's so easy to get caught up in your daily life and you don't want to think about these things.

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Because whenever you think about these things, whether it's you guys getting a prostate check or us going to the OBGYN, you know, it makes you think about the bad things that could happen and you kind of either skip it or postpone it or try not to do it.

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And skin checks are also compromising because you're naked and you're in front of some doctor who's checking out all your parts and like the really good ones really get up in there. And it's a little like, whoa, whoa, I think the doc and I are married. Um, it's important to do because that stuff, you really can potentially find it early and then you get it cut out.

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You know, if, when it's still localized, you can get it cut out. And I, I've said this before, I've never had a melanoma, thank God, but I did have a basal cell right here on my left temple. And, uh, they, yeah, it was in the beginning and I always, I'm vigilant about these skin checks. They found it early. They took it off and now I just have a small scar there. Um,

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But anyway, life is short, you know, the mother of three kids, very public figure in a profession that, you know, yes, contentious and sort of fun, but like kind of joyous, you know, I think she has generally a good life. And it's just so sad. And our days are just, you know, you get reminded the time is limited, make the most of it.

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I mean, like sitting there on the taxpayer dime. There are many not doing much, you know, just sort of getting to be an aging bureaucrat on our dime said, if you guys want to leave the federal government, go with God. Yeah. There's your off ramp go. And we'll actually give you a nice little package. Goodbye.

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Great point. Yeah. Absolutely. Okay. So sorry to bring the room down, but all the best to her and her family and 100% praying for her. And I hope that they can bring her back to good health. Even her messages this week have been positive and not woe is me. And like, I just... I've always liked her.

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She just always seemed like somebody who is more on the sunny side and less vituperative than some of the women who get caught cast on that show. And her dad's brought us all a lot of joy in his songs, so on and so forth, all the best to her and her family in this journey. Um, okay. On a much lighter note, we got to spend a minute on Justin Baldoni and Blake Lively. Okay.

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I know the ruthless fellas have been all up in this business and I mean, no, but seriously, have you followed it at all?

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Exactly. Okay. So she, for those of you, just a quick two liner, for those of you not following it, they started this movie. It ends with us about domestic violence. It was his movie that he bought the rights for from the woman who wrote the book, Colleen Hoover. And then he managed to convince Blake Lively to star in it with him. And. All hell broke loose. She claims he sexual harassed her.

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And then by the time they premiered the movie, they weren't even speaking to each other. She made him stay in the basement. And Ryan Reynolds turned on him, too. He and then she claimed that he unleashed a bad PR campaign against her. And he claims none of that is true. There was absolutely no harassment. Those are made up claims. She rested his movie away from him.

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from him and decided to try to hurt him with petty made up out of context complaints when he pushed back even in the mildest way and that she and her husband are bullies. And now it's resulted in vicious cross litigations against both of them.

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The New York times is being sued for defamation by Baldoni through his lawyer, Brian Friedman, who's also my attorney has been on the show and it's as vicious as it can get. In Hollywood, my own position is she's absolutely ruined her brand. She has started a fight she cannot win. She does appear like an Amber Heard to me. I have yet to see one of her complaints borne out.

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We'll pay you through March, eight months of payment, which is more than you would normally get. And, you know, peace out. And it turns out now the final number is 75,000 bureaucrats took the deal. So we're 75,000 people slimmer in the federal bureaucracy ranks, but not before they tried to sue him. This federal employees union sued him to say, you can't offer that. I mean, it's ridiculous.

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In fact, all of the ones I've seen have been undermined by his hardcore proof in text messaging and so on that puts a totally different light on her horrific allegations. Then you see what she actually said and wrote. It's very different. She called herself Khaleesi and said Ryan Reynolds and we believe Taylor Swift were her dragons.

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And she's got the best dragons because they'll fight on behalf of her friends too. Now she and Taylor are reportedly on the outs because Taylor Swift is like, bitch, I'm nobody's dragon. That's unconfirmed, but it's out there.

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And today we see some evidence now that Blake Lively may have a history of not being upfront when she gets cast in a movie of her secret desires to actually play a much bigger role than that of lead actress. Here she is at the 2022 Forbes Power Women's Summit.

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So she's a serial fraudster. That's called fraud when you pretend you want to do the one thing and you'll do the thing they're hiring you for. But all along, you have secret plans to do something very, very different that's above your pay grade. And she finally bumped into someone who was weak enough and not famous enough to stop her, right?

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This Justin Baldoni, most people had never even heard of him. He'd been in like one series. He certainly wasn't at Ryan Reynolds level fame, nevermind Blake Lively. And, uh, and she bullied him into giving her the movie where she did her own cut. They released the cut of the movie. He, he didn't even get to see it.

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He was the director of the film, the producer of the film, the guy who got the rights to the film in the one who's supposed to be in control. He didn't even get to see it. He was in the basement at his own movie premiere. And then she had the nerve because she had like two minutes of bad publicity when the film hit to come out and try to blame it all on him.

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None of it was just due to the fact that she seems like a rather shitty person. Your thoughts?

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Right. She tries to make it sound like a female empowerment thing, you know, like they just wanted me to be an actor. Well, yes. I mean, maybe someday you could be a producer or a screenwriter, but no one contracted with you to do that here. And that's another allegation, Holmes, is that she started to rewrite scenes that nobody had asked her to rewrite. What?

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One other piece of it. So she... is accused of having turned the whole cast of It Ends With Us against Justin. By the time they premiered the movie, Ryan Reynolds had unfollowed him on Insta, so had Blake, so had the rest of the cast. Now, you tell me, if you're an unknown actor in this film and you know that Blake and Ryan have turned on the no-name Justin Baldoni, who are you going to follow?

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No one's being forced to take it. It was a voluntary thing. You can't offer that because you don't technically have funding through March or past March, whatever, to get us to eight months. That was the argument. Anyway, they just lost that. Now, a federal judge is allowing it. The so-called fork in the road offer stands. The final number of retirees is 75,000, and Elon won that fight.

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You know, these are weak, feckless people out in Hollywood. They have no spine. So, of course, they all unfollowed him and chose Team Blake. Including, by the way, Colleen Hoover, the one who really owed him a debt of gratitude because he bought the rights to her book. She went Team Blake. Well, guess what she just did this week? She scrubbed all of her social media of Blake Lively.

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She had already stepped away from Justin. Now she's scrubbed all of her social media from Blake Lively because I think she's starting to realize she made a mistake. Okay, but here's the other piece of news that came out this week. A 2009 Glamour UK interview by Blake Lively. She was on the cover at the time.

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And in her interview, she admitted to trying to poison the cast of Gossip Girl, which is where she made her name, against her co-star, Penn Badgley, who played her love interest, Dan Humphrey, on the show. She wrote, she said, at first, I was so upset that they had hired him. I actually poisoned the whole cast against him. Okay.

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And she goes on to say, but then they noticed that he wasn't a jerk and was actually a nice, charming person. And almost immediately I realized it too, but it took me about a week to admit it. And here's the thing. Reports were that Blake Lively and Leighton Meester, who played best friends on that show, were not friends during the six season run of the show.

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Leighton Meester and Penn Badgley and other Gossip Girl co-stars have remained silent in the wake of the Baldoni legal drama. Neither Meester nor Badgley follow Lively on Instagram. Members of the jury, what does this lead you to conclude?

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That's right. You know, it reminds me of when I was at NBC and this is before everyone hated Meghan Markle. You know, this is the honeymoon phase where everybody loved her before she decided she was a victim. And all the cast of Suits came on to talk about her.

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And behind the scenes, let's just say, they weren't quite as cheery and smiley about this person with whom they'd spent years on the set as they were with the outward-facing interviews. And talking to the hair and makeup crew about what they said behind the scenes was very enlightening.

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At this point, like, let's talk tea. Let's do it. Guys, congrats on the 500th episode. 500 more. Lots of love.

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All right. We'll see you soon. All right. Coming up tomorrow, we are spending Valentine's Day with Chamath and Jason from the All In podcast. You know, Jason's first time back since I called him a prick. That'll be fun. See you then. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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Then there was the next one where they sued the Trump administration. 20 blue states challenged this OMB directive. They're the ones who kind of run personnel at the federal level. They challenged the OMB directive to freeze federal funding.

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OMB said, let's just we're not just going to stop paying like all all this money out into all these plans until we can figure out what we're spending money on. And he got sued for doing that. And then the Trump administration just won that one, too, because they issued a T.R.A. T.R.O. stopping. they stopping the stopping of the funding. So it had to resume.

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And at the next hearing, the judge said, nevermind, I'm going to lift my temporary restraining order. You can do what you want. So that's going to stop as well. You can't force Trump to spend money on programs that he doesn't know what's in them or whether he approves of them. This is all within the executive branch, all within the executive branch. So he, they lost that one too.

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And you know, bit by bit, they're going to lose most of these. I said the other day, I think it'll be nine out of 10. They won't lose all, but they're losing most of them. Meanwhile, they're slow rolling the Trump agenda and you know, Trump's irritated. He, oh, there's the other thing.

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So he went and he clawed back that, what was it, 59 million that we gave to New York City to pay for the illegal immigrants to enjoy their stay at the Roosevelt Hotel and otherwise. We clawed it back. Kristi Noem got it out of the New York City coffers and said- We're taking it back now. New York's going to sue the federal government for, quote, stealing our money, our New York City taxpayers.

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That's our money. That's the federal government. It's just it's not going to be nonstop lawfare. And you guys know how mired that shit can get. It can just take up all of your energy.

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Can you guys explain those? As Washington insiders, can you explain the NGO graft thing?

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I mean, he's voting like a Democrat, and I'm not sure exactly what he's up to. We have the perfect guest to ask, though, today. Yesterday, Tulsi Gabbard was sworn in as the president's director of national intelligence. We mentioned that to you. We will get into the Trump cabinet plus an insurrection at the Kennedy Center as Trump makes America hot again.

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Right. Oh, for sure. These cuts are going to have majority support. And so far, the polling shows they have majority support. Elon's struggling somewhat in his approval ratings, depending on who you ask, which pollster you ask. But people like Doge and they like cuts and they're not on the side of the federal bureaucrats and they love Trump. I mean, his numbers are great.

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I mean, Elon's the forward facing, you know, sort of picture of all this. So he's a controversial guy just because of X and so on. So liberals don't like him. To your point, Smug, Trump said something very similar yesterday. He's had enough of the nonsense of funneling all this money to these left-wing causes, to these illegal immigrants, and not to actual Americans who are suffering.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. This morning, our staff, along with the world, woke up to incredible news involving a story we brought to you on Monday. That ballerina we told you about, Ksenia Karolina, she's on her way home. It's unbelievable. It's a miracle.

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The details of what happened to her are downright frightening. So she traveled to Russia for the first time in three years to visit her elderly grandmother. Her family still lives over there. First, she was detained for 16 hours at the airport for interrogation. She never even made it past the airport. Under suspicion, she might be some sort of a spy.

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Well, and I mean, we have improved our respective positions on trade with numerous countries. There's no question. But we've also rattled the markets worldwide and sent a message that we might not be the most reliable trading partner. You know, we can do things like this. So, you know, was it worth it, I guess, is the question that we'll be looking at in the coming days.

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Here is Scott Besson explaining that this was a long plan. This is all part of the plan yesterday at the White House.

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You get the idea. So, look, I think that they may be benefiting from the fact that most people don't fully know what to believe. Right. Like I think most of Trump's fans are willing to give him a chance. And now his more elite sort of base who have millions in the stock market are very relieved. And by the way, every single one of them is declaring that it's thanks to them. It's amazing.

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They're all like, he listened to me. He listened to me. He listened to me. It's like, okay, what the Daily Mail reported is that he listened to Jamie Diamond of JPMorgan Chase, who's in his ear, and who's a very smart, sober guy who said, look, this is what's going to happen now. Now it's gotten really bad. And I'm sure he's listened to his top advisors like Besant too. But

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I don't I just don't think as many of his detractors are predicting that this is going to crater his approval rating because people were so rattled by the past five days.

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Then she was released, but they kept her phone. And boy, oh boy, did they go through it. That's how they found this payment on her Venmo. And they found the receipt of this donation on Monday. And by the way, and then they charged her first. They accused her of hooliganism, hooliganism. That's what they charged. And then they upped the ante to treason.

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They were mistaken. That was a mistake. You should not vote Trump in office because you want complete steadiness and no surprises. That's that. That was never. No, it's true. No. OK, but I take your point. I mean, the terrorists have really driven a wedge between two factions of the right factions that already existed. I do want to say this.

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now we're getting grumbling from AOC, from Chris Murphy in Connecticut, that this is insider trading, that they believe that Trump somehow advised maybe his friends, whatever, to buy yesterday morning when the stocks were still low before he announced the deal. And they're absolutely right. He did that. He sent out a tweet telling everyone now is a good time to buy. And the

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The Democrats want to turn it into a crime by Trump like secretly telling his friend. He told us all. We just, we didn't listen. Most of us were like, oh God, I don't even look at the market. At least that's how I felt. Anyway, here's a little bit of a sampling. I mean, the Democrats wanted the pause. They didn't like, that's what they said. They hated the tariffs.

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After loving tariffs, now they hated tariffs because it was Trump tariffs, but they didn't like the pause either. Here's a little bit of that yesterday.

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Skeet Overman. Poem form. I mean, bonus points for the extra effort. They don't like the terrace. They don't like the paws on the terrace. They used to love the terrace. Now they hate the terrace. I'm getting the feeling like this isn't really like a sincerely held belief on their part.

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which you can go to jail for a long, long time for. Originally, it was like 15 years, and then they were talking about a life sentence. And they strong-armed her into copying a plea because she didn't want to go to jail forever. They were like, well, you can go to jail for maybe five years if you say you did this. And she didn't think she had any options.

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He is. pro-choice. He should be more openly pro-choice, pro-transgender ideology. Yeah, maybe they'll abandon it just as soon as Trump endorses it.

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That's because they're owned. Dr. Mark Hyman was on the show the other day explaining that. Yeah, I mean, it's ridiculous. It's absurd.

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The women who are pushing that bill in the Senate, you know, they want permission basically to to vote from home while on maternity leave.

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And most of their Republican colleagues are like, what? No. And Trump was like, I don't know. I'm kind of for it. Makes sense to me. And that's another one where you might see all the Democrats who previously liked it just completely flip. Never mind. We have to be in there if he likes it. There's something we're missing about it. All right. So that's the terrorist.

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We'll see how it all shakes out. I mean, like, honestly, I'm kind of over it. I'm kind of this is Mark Halperin's take. And he's as honest a broker as we're going to find. He writes 50 percent bond market, 25 percent weakness was hurting reconciliation odds, meaning Trump's budget that he's trying to get through with just Republicans and 25 percent rich people calling Trump.

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And he said it also known as 100%, uh, at, at secretary Scott Besson. So he's saying it was a combination of things, including the rich donors, the worries that, uh, in getting reconciliation and the budget bill passed and then the bond market 50%, which yeah, a lot of people were looking at that. Okay. I want to talk about some other stuff he's doing. So he has been

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like cracking down a bit on those who attacked him. A couple of law firms, one law firm that hired one of his chief antagonists at Alvin Bragg's office. That guy, there was this guy who was jumping up and down saying, we've got to prosecute Trump, like criminally prosecute Trump for whatever's going on at his Trump company. And even Alvin Bragg was like, no, we don't have that.

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We're going to go after him, but I don't think we can get his company. And that guy quit. He wrote a book about it. He quit in protest and he got hired by Paul Weiss. So Trump issued an executive order cracking down on Paul Weiss. Like, you know what? The government's not going to do business with you. We're just really not interested in a law firm like this being connected to the U.S. government.

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So she did, and they gave her a 12-year sentence. On Monday, I mean, literally four days ago, we had a long interview with Ksenia's boyfriend, Chris Van Yerden. Chris is a former international boxing organization welterweight world champion who retired from the sport last year to work full time on getting Ksenia home.

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And Paul Weiss got a bunch of calls from clients being like, if you can't do business with the government. We can't do business with you. Like, that's why we're using you on various mergers or acquisitions or what have you, or defenses. And, uh, Paul Weiss bent the knee immediately and went to president Trump and worked out a deal. They're going to make donations to organizations.

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They're going to do pro bono work that he approves of. They didn't have to, but they did it and they came under fire for it. Perkins Coie, that's the one that represented the Hillary campaign and got Russiagate started. Same, but they did not. They're still litigating. They think this is illegal, what he's doing.

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And now today, well, yesterday, we have Trump executive orders targeting two individuals by name. And I'll just read to you here from Politico. The directives that he signed on Wednesday ordered the Justice Department to scrutinize Chris Krebs, who ran Trump's cybersecurity and infrastructure security agency, and former Homeland Security official Miles Taylor. Who is Miles Taylor?

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The name may be familiar to the audience out there, though he originally didn't want it to be. He is... who's published in the New York Times as some sort of senior Trump official who's keeping Trump honest behind the scenes.

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And so what Trump has said is you guys are going to have your security clearances pulled and we're going to investigate, at least in the case of Miles, whether you used classified information for your book or in any other way. Okay. Okay. So the left wing is melting down over this.

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He doesn't like Krebs, I think, because Krebs, he was fired by Trump via tweet, had been out there asserting that when Joe won in 2020, that quote, in every case of which we are aware, those claims of fraud either have been unsubstantiated or are technically incoherent. And then he authorized a joint statement

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by many groups that said the election was secure, no indication of any votes being changed or stolen, which Trump wasn't happy with. And then he was a key witness for the J six select committee. So clearly this guy got on Trump's bad side. And now, I mean, he's having his, his security clearance pulled. They're saying in this executive order that, um,

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He's a significant bad faith actor who weaponized and abused his government authority. Trump, as he signed the order stripping Krebs security clearance and opening an investigation into his activities, repeated his claims that the election was, quote, rigged. And then same thing.

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So this guy, Miles, is going to be investigated, Taylor, to see whether he used classified information in writing his book and also see his security clearances. Why wouldn't these guys have already lost their security clearances? They haven't been working for the government in years. Miles quit in 2019. The other guy quit right before, right around the 2020 election.

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Like, why do we let these security clearances stay in place after these people leave government services? So that's one thing. But the real question I want to get to, Stu, is How do we feel about this?

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Because you could argue that, you know, National Review argued in the case of the law firms, this is effectively a bill of attainder where the Congress or the president specifies like picks out an individual company or individual and declares them guilty of a crime and imposes a punishment without due process. Or is this perfectly fair game? Let's start there.

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See, he had paid for her to take the trip as a Christmas gift so she could see her family. And he spoke to us on Monday about the charges she faced.

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,,,,,,, On February 2nd, 2025, James O'Keefe tweeted out, breaking news, DOJ announces it has dropped criminal investigation into James O'Keefe, Spencer Meads, and Eric Cochran over the Ashley Biden diary. The Southern District of New York announcing today the criminal case is closed and the search warrant affidavit materials will be unsealed. He goes on, the U.S.

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Chris also described the very harsh prison conditions she was facing in Siberia. He told us that while Ksenia is mentally strong, she was signaling in letters that she did not expect to survive the full sentence over there.

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Attorney's Office has officially closed the investigation into the FBI raid related to the Ashley Biden diary case. The government respectfully submits this letter to notify the court the grand jury investigation that led to this and the issuance of the above-referenced search warrants has concluded. No additional criminal charges forthcoming. And they go on to say that they are going to...

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that they are going to release the supporting documentation, if any, that was undergirding the case. And that I really do wanna see. I love to see what they say they had on James O'Keefe, but it took an adult getting elected president to turn to the DOJ and say, please stop bothering James O'Keefe, a journalist who, even under your allegations, what do you have to prove that he...

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He paid her to commit the crime. Show us the allegations. Because if that were true, it would take about two minutes to prove it. Literally two minutes. But here we are four years later. It was brought in 21, 2025. They're still harassing the guy. And it took Trump to take over and Pam Bondi. So this is why I'm just... You know what, Stu, you're not going to see?

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You are not going to see either one of those names mentioned in any political article, in any Axios article, in any article, anywhere. I mean, even the right wing isn't going to bring that up. Most of the right wing publications are just going to express horror at, you know, bill of attainder. This is wrong.

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And they're going to go down the normal road of like, it was wrong always and it's now wrong too.

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Can we just be honest about how wrong it was and how bad it was and how not just Trump was targeted with losing his freedom, but journalists, journalists like Matt Taibbi and James O'Keefe, who indeed is a journalist, to losing their freedom or their fortunes, who knows what the penalties might have been. because of a personal vendetta.

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Matt Taibbi for speaking to Congress and James O'Keefe for having the nerve to actually publish something that might not reflect well on Joe Biden. P.S., it didn't. She talked about inappropriate showers with her father when she was a young child. So I just like, they're so gross. There's a concept in the law.

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It's an equitable concept, which means if you go into a court of equity asking for an equitable remedy, meaning non-monetary, You know, like, don't let those planes take off. You're seeking an equitable remedy. that you cannot get it if you have unclean hands. If you yourself have committed crimes or terrible acts or whatever, and a court can take that into account.

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This is what I'm trying to say. They have unclean hands, both the Democrats and their media servants on this issue. So I don't even want to see the damn article. I don't want to read what Politico says. I certainly don't want to see a reminder about how lawless Trump is. I'm just over it still.

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Well, I think a new day has dawned and these people like I bet Trump's not done. I mean, Biden didn't pardon himself. It would be very interesting to see whether, I don't know, whether Pam Bondi and her investigators see Joe Biden as a well-meaning elderly man with a poor memory. I mean, I just, I would have zero problem if they reversed that conclusion. Okay, I got to take a break.

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I'll be back with Stu right after this. There's a lot of talk about government debt, but after four years of inflation, another real crisis is personal debt. Some people are working harder than ever and still drowning in credit card debt and overdue bills. But there is Done With Debt.

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So on the subject of Trump's executive orders, he had another great one. Let's listen to Sot 13.

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It's like between the return of the incandescent light bulb and the return of water pressure, these are things that actually genuinely improve the life of your average citizen, right? Believe me, the audience knows all for getting rid of DEI. But people who don't have kids going through school right now or woke companies that they work for might not have that one touch them personally.

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But everybody takes a shower, turns on the kitchen faucet, and sees the trickle. He's totally right.

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I know. I know exactly. That's how I feel. These are really things that I care about. And I talked about it yesterday with EPA Administrator Lee Zeldin. The damn wind turbines need to be stopped, too. They are ruining the coastlines of the most beautiful country on Earth, the United States of America. Stop ruining all of the views. Stop torturing the whales. Stop...

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taking up huge multiple acres of our beautiful environmental land for these stupid ass toxic blades for electricity that really doesn't work. And it's only sporadic when we have, as Trump says, you know, all we have to do is drill, baby drill, not to mention coal and fracking and all that, that can pay all these energy bills or provide these, this energy for us at cheaper rates. Okay.

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Switching gears, I want to talk to you a little bit about a story in the media. NBC News sued for defamation and about to go to trial on April 22nd, just settled a $30 million case against it brought by an OBGYN named Dr. Mahendra Amin. So here's what happened. Only Fox News is covering it. Nobody else wants to cover this story. Well, maybe I should just show you the soundbite first.

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Rachel Maddow covered it. Nicole Wallace covered it. Chris Hayes covered it. MSNBC.com covered it. And they all covered it basically the same way, which is why they got sued. And they were all expected to be called a trial as witnesses. Here's a sample of Rachel Maddow's coverage about this doctor who was the subject of a report aired ubiquitously over there.

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about him allegedly performing unnecessary hysterectomies at Immigration and Customs Enforcement Centers, at an ICE detention center. Watch.

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also swept up in the litigation, NBC News reporter Jacob Soboroff and Julia Ainsley, as well as MSNBC producer Dennis Horgan, Senior Director of Standards and Practices Mary Lockhart and Deputy Head of Standards and Practices Chris Scholl, and others, by the way.

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I can't believe it. I'm so thrilled. I'm so grateful to President Trump and Secretary of State Marco Rubio. She has dual citizenship, Russian and American. She's an amateur ballerina over here. And for the last 15 months, she has been wrongfully detained in Russia on these trumped up bogus charges. And now she's free. This morning, Secretary of State Marco Rubio posting to X, quote,

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So what the judge found in allowing the case to go forward, to go to trial against NBC, Judge Lisa Godbey-Wood of the Southern District of Georgia, ruled that a jury under the facts alleged here could find that NBC and its employees acted with actual malice.

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which is the standard that was gonna apply here, and said as follows, quote, NBC investigated this alleged whistleblower, like some whistleblower came out and said, he's doing this. NBC investigated the whistleblower letter's accusations. That investigation did not corroborate the accusations and even undermined some of them. NBC republished the letter's accusations anyway.

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Judge Wood wrote in a one hundred and eight page summary. And this doctor who was portrayed as evil and disgusting, harming immigrant women there without their consent and just as some sort of like Dr. Mengele type. is, in fact, they say, according to his lawyers, a dedicated physician who dedicated his entire career to serving underserved communities.

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And the NBC behaved recklessly trying to paint him as evil. So what happened was they first put it in an NBC News article in September 2020, citing this alleged whistleblower's claim. And then MSNBC quickly jumped on board. That was too good for them to resist, too, with Nicole Wallace, Chris Hayes, Rachel Maddow all running with the, quote, uterus collector label for this guy.

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He filed a lawsuit against the parent company, NBCUniversal, alleging that this was he's been portrayed falsely. And now on the eve of trial. they settled a $30 million suit.

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I don't, we don't know yet what, or we may never what the settlement was for, but I bet it was a big number with all those stars about to get dragged into court and answer for their investigatory processes before they slap a report like that, which is obviously defamatory. Oh, yeah. What do you make of it?

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It's amazing because I NBC has a very well paid and well experienced standard and practices group that you can't get anything on the air without going through these people. I've told the audiences before, but we were doing a report on on my, you know, one year morning show over there. And it was about Roger Ailes. I think he died. I think it was that he had died.

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I can't remember, to be honest, but it was some... I don't remember what year Roger died, but it was shortly after I left Fox. And it came up that he had been involved in the Me Too thing and everything that happened at Fox. And I was reading this script that said several women at Fox news accused him of sexual harassment, including yours truly.

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And then we moved on and they wanted me to insert, um, he denied all claims, including my own. And I was like, I'm not going to read that. Why don't you just have somebody else do it then? I'm not reading that. I know what happened. I wrote a whole book about it. It's ridiculous. The Murdochs. And they were like, you will read it because it's what's fair to him. And look, they weren't wrong.

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It was just I was so freshly off of that whole thing. I was like, I'm not doing that. I think I wound up reading like, and he denied it, which was a false denial because it happened. I can't remember what I said, but I remember sort of stealing the last word on it. I only tell that story to reiterate that. they're tough.

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They're generally tough over there about maintaining some semblance of fairness, especially on dicey legal matters, like a whistleblower coming out and saying something that is very clearly defamatory, if not true. Very clearly defamatory, if not true. So I think you're exactly right. This was too good. It's like they're hurting immigrants. They're stealing... uteri.

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And this guy, rather than seeing him, it's kind of like what happened to CNN. We had on that plaintiff, the guy who got defamed by CNN, um, who was overseas in Afghanistan, trying to help people get out. And yes, he charged a fee, uh, to help people get out. It was like in line with what the fees are to get out.

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But like they, they completely ripped this guy as though he was like profiting off of the pain of others. Like, no, this is a service. You can get hired. And big companies hire him to get, like, their people out. And they made him seem like he was this opportunist. And all these texts came out in the litigation saying, like, he has a punchable face.

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And they were mad that he called them back prior to the report to actually weigh in. Like, they're like, oh, God. Now he's calling. Like, no. No. An honest reporter wants that. You want the other side to be able to weigh in. Anyway, it's just one of many examples that we've seen of corrupt media. And that will bring me to John Oliver. I don't know. Do we consider him media?

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I don't know what the hell he is. Annoying and not fact-based, though he purports to be. I mean, he thinks he's Walter Cronkite. So he goes out on his show and he decides that he will be the final arbiter on

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whether men should be allowed to play in women's sports and decides to unleash this typical bullshit that we get from these leftists about how it's a very small number and who are they hurting? You know, who are they really hurting? And tries to get into like, I couldn't find real studies showing... without spending one minute to consider, do you know why that is, John Oliver?

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It's because leftists are the ones who do these studies. And no leftist magazine, which is all of them, every magazine in the science field is controlled by leftists, will get published if they run a piece saying biological men have an advantage over women. That's the world we've been in for the past 15 years. And by the way, the studies aren't necessary anyway, because we have eyes.

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So he decides it's not enough for him to just sort of state like, this isn't an issue. This is made up right wing, you know, catnip. But then he starts to go through these, I mean, true, these are feminists in the good sense of that word. You know, that word is, it's not a good word and I'm not a feminist, but

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If you want to say to me, like, what's a real family, like who's somebody who really stands up for women? It's somebody like Riley Gaines, who is actually fighting for women's rights or Peyton McNabb, the girl who at 16 in North Carolina was partially paralyzed by a volleyball, hit her by a male. That's an actual true, like in the old school way of a feminist.

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We're like, not the man hatred, not the radical abortion policies, but like, I just want women to, to have their rights. Yeah. Anyway, those are his two favorite targets in this long monologue. Here he is on Riley Gaines.

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You know what this is like? This is like, what is Denise Brown complaining about that Nicole Brown Simpson was murdered? She became world famous and she's a big advocate now for domestic abuse. Fuck off, John Oliver. So Riley Gaines has no legitimate complaint because she spoke out so effectively about what happened to her that she's become, in effect, a national spokesperson on the issue.

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So she should really be thankful that she had to take off her clothes and get nude in front of a fully intact male who is clearly, if you review his social media, an autogonophile who gets off on dressing like a woman and obviously parading around his fully intact penis in a women's locker room before he goes into the pool and steals their medals.

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And I believe he could get Ksenia home, too. Well, message received. And today, for the second time since the start of his second term, President Trump has returned an American from Russian captivity. This is incredible. You heard me mention it there. In February, he brought home American schoolteacher Mark Fogel. I can't believe it. We were all just talking about her.

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It's amazing to me how his entire monologue is told from the point of his own physical weakness. Like men are not stronger than women. Men cannot beat like, what are you worried about? There's no physical advantage, right? Not if you're the athlete, John Oliver, obviously, because you just look like one big human turd of softness.

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But, but shockingly, John Oliver, there are men out there who go through normal male puberty. You clearly weren't one of them who emerge on the opposite side, full of testosterone and muscle. You should look around. They're everywhere. Not in your mirror, but elsewhere. Look around. And Riley Gaines, the fact that she tied Leah Thomas for fifth And he's like, it's the same trophy.

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Talk about being intentionally obtuse. She shouldn't have had to share with a man in anything in her sport at all. He wasn't entitled to be in that race, to have a trophy at all. And she tells the story about the trophy because they tied. There was only one trophy available for fifth place at the time. And they said, we want him to hold it.

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Because this was back in the let's celebrate the fact that there's a man posing as a woman in this race at all. So it was clearly she was reduced to second class citizen as the actual biological woman who won there. And the woman below Riley Gaines lost out because Leah Thomas was there and the woman below her and so on. Then he turns on a 16 year old. Now she's older.

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I think she's now 2020 or something. Peyton McNabb. The audience may remember her from this show. We had her on shortly after this whole thing happened, but then she went on to speak out at her state legislature. She went on to be Trump's guest at Melania's guest at the state of the union that Trump just gave, you know, that it's not technically a state of the union, but you know what I mean?

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We felt totally hopeless a matter of hours ago. And look at this exclusive photo that we have received. This is Ksenia today. Look at this, holding the American flag on the flight back to the United States. Oh my gosh, this is wonderful. She has the green sweatshirt on.

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Oh my God. In about 10 minutes, Jason Redman is going to come on. Former Navy SEAL who was blown up so badly fighting for us overseas that his face was severely damaged. And he's the guy who posted that, do not come into this room to feel sorry for me and his hospital bed as he underwent 37 surgeries to try to get back normalcy and said, I will fully recover. It's truly like looking at somebody

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in who's gone through hell and just being like, well, you're fine. You seem fine. What are you complaining about? You're fine. The fact that she got through her injuries and managed to play a sport after her injury is an inspiration to most of us. You fucking prick it. You don't look at somebody who's been through great hardship, who refused to just lay down and declare life over.

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I'm a victim forever, but fought back to do something extraordinary and say, I'm it means you weren't hurt at all. It means your injury was a nothing burger, Redmond or Peyton. She came on this show too early on and told us about, first of all, how the trans player didn't give a shit at all that he had hurt her at all, was zero sorry.

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And described, by the way, John Oliver, it wasn't just a concussion, you absolute loser. Here's what she said.

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the arrogance and privilege of this fucking multimillionaire sitting at his desk is, trying to lecture this young woman about how she's fine. It was just a concussion. By the way, that's enough, you absolute jerk. But listen to what actually happened to him. Weirdly, I didn't hear that. I didn't hear that either in his monologue.

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Her father describing to the Daily Mail what happened when Ksenia called him saying, quote, the first seconds of our chat were all pure emotion. I cannot imagine what we were saying. It was like one explosion of happiness. And a short time ago, we received this statement from Chris.

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I didn't hear about Riley Gaines, again, having to change and get naked in a locker room in front of a man, Will Thomas.

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And I didn't hear anything about Peyton McNabb's actual injuries that she somehow managed to get through in order to have some semblance of a sports career while in high school, which doesn't take away one second from her ongoing headaches, from the bullying that she felt she suffered, from the partial paralysis that she had on her right side. This like the I can't do. It's like the height.

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of, I mean, leftism. That's what I see when I hear him. This leftist, elitist, rich prick who has no sympathy or empathy in his heart for this young girl or any young girls. By the way, he also didn't mention the girl in Massachusetts who had her entire mouth of teeth knocked out by a male... field hockey player posing as a girl.

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How about all the girl basketball players that we have seen fall down and hurt on the court? We could do this all day. How about the girls in the Midwest who had an 18-year-old guy join their shower with his dick hanging out while they were trying to shower for gym? They were 14-year-olds. John Oliver, you don't know what you're talking about. Shut up until you get actual facts.

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And don't you dare purport to be fair on this issue with your fake facts and your fake. There are just no studies until you've done two seconds of research. Call Peyton McNabb. Why don't you actually look into the cases? It's so infuriating, Stu, because. To your point, he's a leftist god. They love him.

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And the reason he did that, I guarantee you, is because he saw Gavin Newsom say it's an issue of fairness. And he sees the numbers that this is now an 80-20 issue. And he's trying to reel back in. his side. And by the way, he's got some trans producer high up in his ranks who I'm sure he was trying to pander to. And all leftists want to pander to this community. They don't give a damn about women.

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He says, I'm overjoyed to hear that the love of my life, Ksenia, is on her way home from wrongful detention in Russia. She's endured a nightmare for 15 months and I cannot wait to hold her. He thanked everybody who has helped to bring attention to this story. He mentioned them on the show the other day as well. In particular, Peter Berg. You remember the guy behind the Friday Night Lights series?

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I'm sure her parents want to punch him in the face. Or maybe they're nicer people than I am. They probably are. But then he's like, oh, it really kind of all just boils down to disc golf. It's all about disc golf. Meanwhile, it's like he doesn't touch on what's happening to women's rugby, which is being overtaken in various towns and places by these guys. And that is danger.

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He's like, there's no danger in track. Talk about missing a large portion of the point. It is unfair. These girls worked their whole lives to have the glorious feeling of victory, which is being stolen from them. And then he says like these runners in Connecticut, also inaugural guests of the show.

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We weren't on the air, I don't know, 50 episodes before I put these girls on who were running in Connecticut in high school and were losing to guys who had run as men the previous season. zero hormone therapy, fully intact, fully hormonal, post-pubescent men running against them as teenagers who were starting to steal the medals. He's like, they didn't lose every race to these guys.

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That's like telling somebody who has to run a bike against somebody who's doping or fight in the ring against somebody who's on steroids when they're not. Well, you got that one round off of him. I mean, you got that one race. So what are you complaining about? It doesn't address the fundamental unfairness that the fight is rigged. The whole contest is rigged.

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The fact that in this circumstance or that outlier, it could be overcome by somebody extraordinary does not disprove the basic unfairness of it.

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And, oh God, he's done so much in Hollywood. But he, I'm trying to remember, he's got some connection to Peter Berg. But, oh, I think it might be through his boxing. In any event, he also thanked Dana White, who's been advocating for Ksenia. A lot of people have taken up this cause. It's amazing. It worked. Can I just tell you something else? Well, I'll bring this up when I bring Stu on.

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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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But listen, Ksenia is going to go to a military hospital when she's back on U.S. soil. And listen, we send her our love and our prayers and Chris as well. God bless you. What a beautiful love story. I expect to be invited to the wedding. It's unbelievable. And congratulations to Team Trump. Hats off to you. Wow. Joining me now, Stu Bergeer, host of Blaze TV's Stu Does America.

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I mean, it's so beautiful. It's like, it's very, very strong of you to be able to admit that because it would be so much easier to say, this is the, this is the story. It's all right here. This is the story saying I should read it to the audience in part because it's just so amazing. And then I'll finish making my point, but this is what Jason and Erica hung outside of his hospital room.

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And now this is on display at Walter Reed. Uh, when he was healing attention to all who enter here, if you are coming into this room with sorrow or to feel sorry for my wounds, go elsewhere. The wounds I received, I got in a job. I love doing it for people. I love supporting the freedom of a country. I deeply love. I'm incredibly tough and will make a full recovery. What's full?

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That is the absolute utmost physically my body has the ability to recover. Then I will push that about 20% further through sheer mental tenacity. This room you are about to enter is a room of fun, optimism, and intense rapid regrowth. If you are not prepared for that, go elsewhere. Signed, The Management. I read the whole thing. How can you only read part of that?

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And so this is important in its own message. And this was exactly the right headspace, I think, for you at the time. And you both shared in it. But then the second piece is so real. It's so real, as the kids say, real, where your body and your mental tenacity gets you through the toughest period. And then there's like, are resettling. And that can be the most painful part.

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And the fact that you're admitting it, Jason, as a former Navy SEAL, that's going to help a lot of guys because they might be going through it right now feeling weak or like they're the weak one. Everybody else was tough all along and never had this. And the fact that you saw it, Erica, and spoke up to it and actually said to him, I don't want this to be the beginning of the end of our marriage.

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American Ksenia Karolina is on a plane back home to the United States. She was wrongfully detained by Russia for over a year and President Trump secured her release. The president of the United States will continue to work for the release of all Americans.

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It was seismic and it was like tectonic plate moving it because it was so off limits.

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And I love that rules of engagement to put it in terms that most military vets can get, um, that the rules, as I understand it, and my, my husband and I have these same rules, although I don't know that we've ever like, you know, written them down like this, but, uh, yes, do not, we always say, don't make the relationship, the stakes of any argument, you know, which is, I think the same thing as what you guys are getting at.

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No name calling. Totally agree. We don't fight below the belt, basically. And I like you also have don't bring up past like transgressions. Do I have them? Am I missing one?

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That's good. That is what you're really saying, and I got this from them. I don't know them, but they said it publicly, is the famous Kevin Bacon, Keira Sedgwick advice of keep the sex dirty and the fights clean. And it's kind of like a rule to live by in any good marriage, right? I love it. Yep.

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At your angriest is when you have to actually have the most self-control in your day-to-day life because this is someone you love and you don't win if this person loses. It's a net loss for the relationship, for you, for the family. You actually do have a lot of good advice in here for arguments.

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Well, and one, you know, the thing that we were talking about a moment ago, Jason, is have the same objections to their husband's behavior as Erica had to yours. Even if the circumstances are totally different where they think the husband is too withdrawn and not sharing any of his stuff. Like men, I think generally have a natural instinct to deal with it on their own.

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This is why the teenage suicide rate is super high in places like Montana, because in cowboy culture or military culture, the message is cowboy up, you know, like, you're fine. And the last instinct is to go cry on the wife's shoulder about the fact that you are definitely not fine.

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Stu, Chris told us, hi, first of all, Chris told us that he had to work hard during the Biden years, because this all happened during Biden, to get them to finally just designate her as wrongfully detained, which was like climbing a mountain. And finally they did it. And then he told us that he just felt that they kept yesing him to death and that they didn't do anything.

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So like a lot of it, like it was brave of Erica to say, I see you drifting away from me and I see you not talking to me and I can feel the separation like on a fundamental level. And it was brave of you to say you're right. So how did you get to that? Like there, you know, right now there are other guys listening to this. Like, I don't think I can talk about this.

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The other thing I love that you guys do and are recommending for people in the book, again, Invincible Marriage, it's called Mission Invincible Marriage by Jason and Erica Redman, is humor. I completely love this as a tool. I've told the audience before, my husband's very good at this if we have an argument. will separate, you know, rooms or whatever. And he always comes to me.

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He's the, cause he can't stand being in an argument and, and I'm, I run hotter, so it takes me longer to calm down. Uh, so he'll come back and he's less emotional in general, but anyway, he'll, he'll come in and he'll say, I forgive you and I accept your apology. It just like out of nowhere, it always makes me laugh. You know, anyway, can you speak to that, Erica?

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Like the importance of humor and navigating your marriage and your arguments and all of it.

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He realized too late into her confinement that the Biden administration was not going to do anything to help her, never mind Biden himself. Trump has been in office for two months. He's already gotten, forget outside of Russia. I mean, we saw Rick Grinnell with those prisoners from Venezuela. We've got two American citizens back on American soil, Ksenia almost, from Russia.

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Well, I think it's very interesting because, of course, that must have been a huge tool for you guys in in, you know, SEAL training and throughout your time as a SEALJ.

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Mm-hmm. I had a relationship expert on the show a few years ago, and she said, especially for long-term relationships like a marriage, novelty, novelty, novelty.

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And she said the novelty could be you try a new recipe together, you go to a new movie together, or you watch something on Netflix you've never seen together, or it could be, you know, we go to Japan on some walking tour, you know, like whatever. It can be big or small, but... She was saying that's a key thing. I like that a lot.

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Again, we're talking to Jason and Erica Redman about the book Mission Invincible Marriage, which everybody needs to buy right now. Buy multiple copies. By the way, Father's Day and Mother's Day are coming up. So don't wait. Do it now. Mission Invincible Marriage.

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And at the heart of the relationship, as I understand it, you guys, is you have something that a lot of people say they have, but they don't actually have, which is a friendship. And it seemed to kick off that way right from the get-go, Erica.

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You guys seem to be joking right from, even though your relationship began in a lie, began in a lie, as you can explain what that means, but you're friends before anything.

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Mm-hmm. And I mean, you started in a lie because Jason told us this story before, but he lied and said he was a boxer because he was out with a bunch of Navy SEALs the night he met you and they didn't want to be like, we're Navy SEALs. And then tough guys around them wanted to like challenge them to a fight. So you thought you were going to date a boxer, but not exactly.

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No, it was a little bit more complicated than that as it turns out. Listen, I think it's a great idea that you guys did this. I think it will definitely resonate with a lot of service members, former and current, but- Beyond that, because I'm blessed to have a very healthy, happy marriage.

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And I think a lot of the stuff you guys are doing, we're doing, and I recognize them as tools we're using, whether we'd identified them or not. So thank you. Thank you for your service and your sacrifice, both of you, and for writing Mission Invincible Marriage. All the best, guys.

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And this guy, for Ksenia, apparently we traded some guy, some German guy who was 33 years old, who was selling some sort of information about computers to the Russians that he shouldn't have had. So, okay, it's not exactly great, but it's not like, you know, one of the most evil people that we'd have to give up. I mean... no man left behind, no woman left behind. She's one of ours.

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Right on. If you guys can do it, anybody can do it. Truly. I mean, it's like no one's had bigger challenges thrown at them than the two of you had. God bless you.

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Yeah. Thank you. Oh, so nice to meet you, Erica. Come back soon. Absolutely. All right. Oh, wow. Gosh, it's so great to hear stories like that. You move on with your life and you can get too complacent about like, they write about that in the book actually, complacency and how it's a marriage killer.

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But you can get complacent about the sacrifices that our men and women in uniform have made for us, especially now that those wars are over, right? And they never really end for the guys who are over there or their families. They never end.

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The trauma in a way is always going to be with them and ongoing and they find their own ways to deal with it and some better than others, but it's something, it's an act of sacrifice as well for them to put those private moments down on paper and share them with everyone because they want to help others.

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you, whether you served or not, whether your marriage is, you know, a service marriage or not, you know, in between service personnel. So anyway, let's help them. Okay. Let's help them please by mission, invincible marriage and help the wonderful special Jason and Erica Redmond today and help yourself.

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You know, what if that, what if reading this book could be the beginning of a reinvention in your own relationship? Check it out. Tomorrow, Tim Dillon is here. That's going to be fun. We'll see you then. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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She has dual citizenship. This is an American who is dying in a Siberian labor camp who was completely forgotten by Joe Biden. What do you make of it?

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Last August, Ksenia was convicted, again, these are ridiculous charges, in Russia as she visited family there of state treason and handed a 12-year prison sentence in a Russian labor camp. Her crime, she donated $51 two years prior while in the United States as a US citizen to a US-based nonprofit that helps children and elderly impacted by the war in Ukraine. $50, you guys.

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It's so big. And it's like, not just any country, you know, it's like now president Trump says, we're going to be meeting one-on-one with Iran. When Obama first suggested doing that, it sounded crazy because it was clearly a slip. It was something he just kind of popped off with at a debate. And then he got so much blowback. He made it us policy.

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Um, but, and now Trump's, and I was like, we're all doing that. But The thing about Russia is Russia's huge. Russia's actually a really important player on the world stage for a couple of reasons. I mean, yes, they call it like basically just a gas station, but it's a massive player when it comes to gas, oil, energy. Not to mention it's fully armed with nuclear warheads.

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So it's like there is a lot of upside to having somewhat of a good relationship with Russia. And Trump should not be embarrassed for trying to cultivate that. That's probably why she's on her way home right now. So God bless this couple. God bless Trump, Marco Rubio to all the guys and gals who worked on this. Well done. They brought one of ours home and I am I'm thrilled about it.

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OK, let's talk about Trump in general, because it's like two alternate universes reading what he did with the terrorists. The New York Times is completely calling bullshit on him saying this was the strategy all along. He didn't say that really exactly, but Scott Besson said it. Caroline Levitt said it. It's art of the deal.

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He was sort of playing, setting everybody up for this big announcement that really would target and out China as an unfair actor in the end. And then you have the president's defenders saying, no, that's exactly right. That's what he was doing. He was playing chess when everybody else was playing checkers.

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And then you have Trump himself, who kind of says exactly why he did it in SOT7 outside of the White House on Wednesday.

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So, I mean, that's Trump's own explanation, which suggests if it was part of the plan, maybe it got accelerated given, you know, the jitters on the market.

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And in particular, I don't purport to understand the bond market, but in particular, what was happening with the bond market yesterday, which I guess could have potentially, it was so volatile, could have led to a longer and more intractable recession or near recession. Your thoughts on it?

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AOC busted flying first class to a Bernie Sanders fight the oligarchy rally last month. The New York Post obtaining a quickly snapped pic of the unaware congresswoman settling into her first class seat.

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The flyer who snapped the photo telling the Post, quote, nothing says power to the people like ignoring voters looking to say hello and reclining in first class while tweeting about income inequality. A first class jet blue seat on that route reportedly costs upward of $1,100. And that'll do it for your AM Update. I'm Megyn Kelly.

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Join me back here for The Megyn Kelly Show, live on SiriusXM Triumph Channel, 111 at Noon East, on YouTube.com slash Megyn Kelly, and on all podcast platforms.

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Speak with one of their strategists today for free and don't let the IRS control your future. Call 1-800-958-1000 or visit tnusa.com slash Megan. That's tnusa.com slash Megan. April 15th is just around the corner. Act now before the IRS acts first. The stock market posting its third largest gain in post-World War II history.

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President Trump turns up the heat on China and sends markets soaring with a pause on tariffs for cooperating nations.

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The Dow surging by 2,900 points, a 7.8% increase, its largest percentage gain since March 2020. The S&P 500 soaring to 5,956, a 10% increase. The Nasdaq closing just above 17,000. That's the largest one-day jump since January 2001.

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The incredible rise coming on the announcement of a 90-day pause on tariffs for all countries who did not retaliate against the president's Liberation Day announcement hiking tariffs. For weeks, the president saying the tariffs would be permanent, sending markets into the red. Mr. Trump discussing the stunning reversal from the Oval.

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One country not getting any relief on tariffs is China. President Trump announcing an increase on our Chinese tariffs to 125 percent. The CCP previously announcing a retaliatory increase on U.S. tariffs to 84 percent. Treasury Secretary Scott Besant telling reporters this was the strategy all along.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Thursday, April 10th, 2025, and this is your AM Update.

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Mr. Trump outside the White House saying he believes China will come to the table.

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House Democrats attempt to deflect and distract from harm caused by illegal immigrants in sanctuary cities as the Trump administration celebrates a historic drop in illegal border crossings. A federal judge orders the Trump administration to restore exclusive White House access to the Associated Press.

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China was admitted to the World Trade Organization in 2001 under favorable terms designed to advance its developing economy into a global player. At the time, Western leaders believed integration into the global economy would encourage the democratization of China. The opposite proved true.

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China, growing more authoritarian, exploiting tariffs and intellectual property loopholes, leapfrogging into the world's second largest economy and evolving into the primary adversary of the U.S., Billionaire entrepreneur Kevin O'Leary telling CNN President Trump is not going far enough to punish the Chinese.

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The Trump administration ratcheting up pressure on illegal aliens to self-deport, fining illegal immigrants $998 for each day they remain in the U.S. illegally. Reuters reporting the administration is planning to apply the fines retroactively up to five years, totaling more than a million dollars.

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The administration offering benefits to illegal aliens who choose to self-deport via the CBP Home app, allowing them to keep money earned in the U.S. and maintain eligibility to return legally. DHS in March recording the lowest border crossings in history. Daily apprehensions dropping by 95 percent compared to the prior year. President Trump highlighting the achievement on Tuesday night.

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And Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard creates a task force to expose the skeletons from within the intel community's closet. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update. The IRS is the largest collection agency in the world. And with April 15th fast approaching, it's more aggressive than ever. If you owe back taxes or have unfiled returns, waiting is not an option.

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Can you believe it? On Wednesday, the House Judiciary Subcommittee on Immigration, Integrity, Security and Enforcement holding a hearing on sanctuary jurisdictions, inviting witnesses negatively impacted by the sanctuary policies, which prevents state or local officials from cooperating with ICE to safely remove illegal aliens.

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Democrats on the committee using their time to attack their Republican colleagues. Ranking member of the subcommittee, Washington Congresswoman Pramaya Jayapal, beginning her remarks with this.

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The only person killed on January 6th was Ashley Babbitt, an unarmed protester shot by Capitol Police. A medical examiner ruling Officer Brian Sicknick passed away due to natural causes. Four officers later died by suicide. Democrat Congresswoman from Texas Jasmine Crockett making this claim.

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Congresswoman Crockett obfuscating the reality with her statement. Illegal immigrants are entitled to due process, though protections afforded to illegals are more limited. Illegal immigrants are not entitled to a public defender as proceedings are civil, not criminal. There's no jury trial. Federal agents present evidence to an immigration judge under a lower standard of proof.

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The Sanctuary City hearing held just days after authorities charged a 43-year-old illegal immigrant living in Sanctuary City, Los Angeles, with murdering a 13-year-old boy. The suspect also accused of sexually assaulting multiple teen boys, authorities now seeking out other possible victims.

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Coming up, a federal judge orders the Trump administration to restore exclusive access to the Associated Press. and Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard creates a task force to expose the skeletons from within the intel community's closet.

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And when you're ready to order your own Power Rack Pro, save 10% by using my promo code MK. No more excuses. Let's all get in the best shape of our lives. Go to getjackedup.com. A federal judge on Tuesday ordering the White House to restore full presidential access to the Associated Press.

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The White House banning the AP from so-called pool access in February following the outlet's refusal to accept the Gulf of America renaming. Pool access is a more exclusive group of reporters granted access to tight spaces like Air Force One and the Oval Office. The AP maintains the ability to cover the White House from the briefing room. U.S.

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April 15th could mark another tax year that has passed you by. So the smart move is to get ahead of it now. But listen, never contact the IRS alone. Instead, you could let the experts at Tax Network USA handle it for you. Why? Well, not all tax resolution companies are the same.

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District Judge Trevor McFadden, a Trump appointee, writing, quote, if the government opens its doors to some journalists, it cannot then shut those doors to other journalists because of their viewpoints.

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The judge going on to say, quote, the AP is not necessarily entitled to the first in line every time permanent press pool access it enjoyed under the White House Correspondents Association, but it cannot be treated worse than its peer wire service either.

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Since the beginning of the spat, Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt taking control over pool coverage from the White House Correspondents Association, opening up access to less traditional outlets. Judge McFadden allowing the feds one week to respond before this order goes into effect. The New York Times reporting Wednesday, pronouns in bio? You may not get a response from the White House.

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The Times writing, quote, on at least three recent occasions, senior Trump press aides have refused to engage with reporters' questions because the journalists listed identifying pronouns in their email signatures. Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt confirming to the Times, quote, any reporter who chooses to put their preferred pronouns in their bio,

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clearly does not care about biological reality or truth and therefore cannot be trusted to write an honest story. President Trump banned the practice of including pronouns in federal employees' email signatures. Vice President Kamala Harris embracing the practice during her time in office.

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Several high-profile progressive Democrats removing pronouns from their bios following President Trump's re-election, including Ms. Harris, AOC, Senator Elizabeth Warren, and former Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg. As for me, I have the same policy as the White House. No pronouns in your email or no response from me.

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Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard announcing on Tuesday the creation of a new task force. DNI Gabbard saying in a statement, quote, in order to rebuild trust in the intelligence community, I established the Director's Initiatives Group to bring about transparency and accountability across the IC.

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This is the latest effort in the Trump administration's push to lift the shroud of secrecy on the nation's intelligence agencies. In January, President Trump ordering the release of the JFK, RFK, and MLK files. President Trump's issues with the intel community ranging back to the now debunked hoax, alleging Russian President Vladimir Putin worked with President Trump to steal the 2016 election.

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The accusations consuming Mr. Trump's first term in office, resulting in millions of taxpayer dollars spent on numerous investigations.

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In the years since, counter-investigations proving the intel community was aware of the dubious origins of the Steele dossier, opposition research funded by the Hillary Clinton campaign, and used it anyway to obtain secret warrants allowing the FBI to spy on the Trump campaign. The task force will also look into domestic surveillance conducted by the Biden administration.

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In May of 2023, an FBI whistleblower testifying in front of Congress about orders to stop investigating child pornography cases and to start looking into parents at school board meetings who objected to mask mandates, DEI initiatives, gender radicalism, or, yes, who had the temerity to go over their allotted time to speak at school board meetings. Not kidding.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. Just back now from Washington, D.C., literally just an hour ago, got back, where I interviewed Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard late yesterday.

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purportedly funny there's nothing at all funny there's no joke coming she's just giggling at her own little aside she's not a great public speaker no the only time it gets funny is when she lands her point and you realize there's nothing there yeah and she's built it up like this huge profundity only to let us down once again i don't even know what she's doing what she is she running for what the governor of california we don't know she's weighing either that or another presidential that's crazy they'd never do that i don't know

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I completely agree. No chance. But there are some people out there. Oh, my gosh. I don't know if I'm going to be able to find it. But there are people out there talking about her right now, like behind the scenes and off record. They don't want to put their name to it about how, you know, she's really formidable. Like the party really needs to hear. They have a hankering to hear from her.

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Hold on a second. Is that the word they use? Hankering? No, they say, here it is. There is a clamoring for her voice right now, said a former Harris senior advisor. Meanwhile, I'm like, is he named Pug Klemhoff? This is clearly like her husband or somebody very close to her. And they say because they were granted anonymity to speak candidly, meaning really falsely.

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Quote, no one can better prosecute the case while inspiring a call to action than the former vice president.

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So I mentioned at the top that I sat down with Tulsi Gabbard last night and we had a bunch of discussions that were really interesting, I thought.

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And then blonde origin. I mean, it's been that kind of a week, Dave. But here's one thing I want to pick up on that we started the show off with, like this push to get us into another war with Iran. by these forces behind the scenes. And I'm not blaming that on Mike Wallace. That was just speculation on my point that maybe some perceive him as on that side.

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But she did speak to, because she's anti all that. That's one of the reasons Trump chose her. And I was asking her, like, do you feel it? Do you feel like people pushing you towards, you know, all things military, all things war? And here's what she said and sought to. There was a New York Times article within the past month saying you, he, J.D.

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Vance, and his chief of staff, Susie Wiles, were all together in urging him to not go too far on our actions against Iran. And President Trump did not do it. He did not give Netanyahu the answer he wanted. I know you're not going to get into the specifics of what you advised the president, but can you explain your view of the dangers of barreling toward a potential conflict with Iran.

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Do you feel the push, Tulsi, the push of this strong neocon strain that's still within the Republican Party and probably in these agencies that's much more hawkish on an issue, including war in the Middle East, which we've just done for 20 years? Yeah, of course. The pressure's there.

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So she's talking about, Dave, how they sat there – she's basically confirming – in a private meeting with just the president, with those officials I named, with the vice president, with the director of national intelligence, with the secretary of defense and his chief of staff. And what she's saying without being explicit about it is –

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Then she believes none of them leaked, but then they have to talk to their staffs about what happened and what needs to happen. And at that top, top level, someone's leaking to the New York Times and saying, how are they supposed to function like this?

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They do that in some – like what movie did they do that in where they plant like a fake piece of gossip and see who bites?

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It's a very good idea because it's happening to Tulsi. It's happening to Trump. It's obviously happening to Hegseth where like bit by bit, they're undermining the whole administration with these leaks.

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She also told me that the Biden administration used signal. And she said without naming them, she said some of the very exact officials who are dumping on us for being on a signal chat. She was one of the ones use signal and she has proof of it.

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I mean, that's kind of badass, frankly, because what she's doing is she's not telling everybody that she, like, I know it was you, Fredo. You're right. She's letting Fredo just continue.

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And then the next call they get is going to be from somebody saying the DOJ is here, or the FBI is here to arrest you. They did it differently over at the Department of Defense where Pete or his team, his investigators, investigated these leaks and then fired three guys who immediately went to the media, including yours truly, to say we're not the leakers. None has been arrested.

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We don't know whether they will be arrested. They all deny they did it. I have to say, as between the two, this is probably the better course because it's like they're not twisting in the wind as leakers who can speak out about it. They're in cuffs by the time we learn their names.

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Mm-hmm, that's the thing, that it's so undermining. All right, one other point on Tulsi. Where were you on like the COVID lockdowns and the overreach by Fauci and all that stuff?

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Well, I asked her about it. This is one of the first things we covered, and I think it was probably the biggest piece of news to come out of the interview. Well, let's watch the exchange, and then I'll fill in the blanks. Here it is. We already know that EcoHealth Alliance was partnering with this Wuhan lab to do gain-of-function research. That's right.

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We just have never been able to have somebody say, and it was that exact experiment that led to this COVID bug. But have we gotten there? What's the new thing that you're digging in on?

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I mean, that would be extraordinary because just so the audience knows, if that's true, if it was Peter Daszak's research with the Wuhan so-called fat lady that caused this pandemic, then we did fund it. Then Anthony Fauci helped fund the pandemic.

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That's the director of national intelligence clearly intimating that they're about to tie Anthony Fauci and this group, EcoHealth Alliance, that he funded to the actual COVID virus.

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That's huge. That's a link we've never been able to close. We've been able to close. We funded EcoHealth Alliance. They partnered with the Wuhan lab. They did gain of function research on bat coronaviruses. But we've never been able to make the leap to. And it resulted in this coronavirus. And that's what she says she's intimating is about to come.

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But I mean, the fact that the guy running this huge piece of NIH was perjuring himself, allegedly, we'll find out, to the point where it wasn't just a courtesy pardon to prevent harassment. Like, he actually may have committed felonies here. It is insane. Like, my...

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Yeah. I mean, in the middle of the movie, it became obvious. But yes, I hate him with the passion of 10,000 suns.

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No, I don't think he wanted. And no one's suggesting that. The intel community, no one's saying that.

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And at the same time, we know from his internal emails that the House Republicans got at the time, well, a couple of years after the COVID mania, that he was actively working to smear doctors who were coming out saying, this thing looks like it came from a lab. We've never seen this particular virus before in nature. This looks lab made.

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Don't call it a ride. We're going to get to all this now with Dave Portnoy. Very far is the answer. Yeah, very far, clearly. Very far. To the moon and back, some might say.

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And he was all over the place, like tamp that down, get that out there. That's fringe. That's he made sure that narrative couldn't live.

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He just comes across as like a grandpa to me. You've got to spend some time with my husband, Doug, because I am terrible at judging character. I'm always like, he's fine. See, I feel like I'm pretty good. And my husband's really good. And he's always on to people before I am. But even I saw it with Fauci. Was he on to? Yeah. Yes. He knew he was bad. I don't know.

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I think some people just have a knack for this. I'm usually like, they're good. What do you mean?

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Yep. I know that was one of Trump's failures. I mean, a lot of Republicans blame him for a vaccine that wound up hurting a lot of people, too. Trump stands by the vaccine, but it's got some problems. There's no question.

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Well, that's what people who don't live in places like New York don't get is like, I lived in New York and this is going down and it's like, you couldn't go anywhere.

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You were like a hostage in your own apartment. If you didn't get the damn vaccine. I regret it though. I wish I had gotten one of the fake cards. That was such the obvious solution. I'm like a two, a goody two shoes. I don't know why I didn't do it.

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You know, my doctor said to me at the time, I'm like, should I be worried about these mRNA vaccines? And he goes, would you take the mRNA vaccine if it could prevent pancreatic cancer? Because that's the future. Which was a, don't be worried.

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Yeah. It's all very easy. Okay. On the subject of the Kamala Harris soundbite where she said, you've got to be like the elephants to protect the most vulnerable. Right. The most vulnerable. The larger context of her remarks are about illegal immigration and what's being done right now to deport these alleged gang members. What's so insane is they are not the most vulnerable.

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We are the most vulnerable, in particular women and children, who tend to be the victims of these gang members. Mm-hmm. People like Lake and Riley down in Georgia, like Jocelyn Ngaro, 12 year old down in Texas. We've seen the names in the media. Those are the most vulnerable.

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That's what Trump is trying to do to protect the innocent Americans that are the prey of these people who are being deported. And I did ask Tulsi about the screening that's being done because the Democrats have you believe it's willy nilly. It's like you've got brown skin and the wrong tattoo, you're out.

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And she explained that they are identifying these Trenda, Aragua and MS-13 and even Sinaloa cartel members largely with the help of the DEA, which is up to its neck in gang violence. Information 501. They know who these guys are. They track them. They monitor them. All it needed was for somebody to call them up and say, who are they? Right. And where are they?

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And figure out which ones are foreign. They're not all foreign. And which ones are American? And on top of that, they have lengthy FBI investigations of these people. So I thought that was interesting, too, that it is not just like, gee, you're brown. You're out. Right.

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There was news about their most famous poster boy, Abrego Garcia, Kilmar Abrego Garcia yesterday, the one who Chris Van Hollen had margaritas with. It turns out this guy, we knew that he had been accused of beating his wife by his wife. Well, a second report came out of the same, more beatings.

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Okay, there's so much happening right now. Let's talk about Mike Walsh because... While the average audience member might not think Dave Portnoy is the perfect person to discuss this news with, they are wrong because you actually called for his ouster.

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in which she sought a protective order, not just as previously reported in 2021, but earlier in August of 2020. She moved for a protective order back then. The details reveal a fight they had with this woman, his wife, alleging that He took her phone, demanded her car keys before flying into a rage.

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She went upstairs to cook breakfast for the kids, but he shut off the stove, locked the children in their bedroom. They were crying. She got her phone from the car, called 911. He locked her out of the house. He smashed her phone. She checked the boxes for acts of abuse, including kicking, slapping, shoving, mental injury of a child, detaining against one's will.

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Um, she could hear the babies crying, uh, as he locked them in and he was after her. Me and my kids are afraid now. He kicked me. He pushed me. He slapped me in the face. He threatened me. I have photos of all the bruises left in my body. Police came. He acted violent with them, broke my phone in front of them. I have a recording.

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He told my ex mother-in-law that even if he kills me, no one can do anything to him. In March of 2020, we now find out. She said, he pushed me against the wall. He broke a phone, a TV and damaged the walls. November of 19, he grabbed me by the hair in the car. December of 19, he grabbed me by the hair in the car. He dragged me out of the car, leaving me in the street.

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And then she rescinded the motion for the protective order as virtually all domestic violence abuse victims do. And on top of that, there's another document from 2018 where her ex, so this is Abrego Garcia's wife now, but in 2018, his girlfriend.

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She had an ex-husband. His name is Edwin Trejo Ramos. He's currently incarcerated in Maryland. This is all a very nice crowd. But he at the time sought an emergency court hearing to get custody of his children with this woman, saying she tried to kill herself. She left the kids with an 11-year-old to take care of them.

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And I'm afraid of my kids' lives being in danger because, quote, she is dating a gang member who was at that time, we understand, Abrego Garcia. So this is the poster boy, the most vulnerable, Kamala Harris might say.

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You can find that interview on youtube.com slash Megyn Kelly and our podcast feeds right now. They posted this morning. And there's a lot to unpack from that interview. She made a ton of news.

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No, you're reflecting the view of most Americans, according to the latest polls, where they are in favor of Trump's plan, but they do want to see some due process. And it's hard.

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When the only dispute about this guy is the fact that. He technically wasn't supposed to be deported to El Salvador, but he was ruled deportable.

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The only reason he wasn't deported is because we were lame. We didn't have the resources and we didn't do it, which is the truth for 20 million illegals. The only controversial piece about this guy is that his order of removal said just not to El Salvador because he's claiming he'll get killed by gangs there. That's it. That's what they've thrown their lot behind.

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I do want to get to the larger issue, though. You're right over the target. how Americans are struggling with, well, what is required? Because we know there was no due process when they came into the country for us when it comes to our rights to be safe and not have to put them on the public dole and pay for their lives and their healthcare and all this. However, here's the thing.

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They don't get the same due process as an American citizen would before we took away their liberty in any way, whether it's for trying to deport them for some reason or putting them through the criminal justice system. And what appears to be true in the immigration context, what is true is it's a much lower level of, quote, due process that they're entitled to.

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And what most people don't know, including Terry Moran, who was one of the lead anchors over at ABC, and I'm going to show you the soundbite of him and Trump, is that in many cases, no due process is okay. None. It's under this thing called expedited removal, which all presidents have used. Trump expanded expedited removal, and you don't get any hearing under it.

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It was used even under Biden to say, at the border, okay, if you show up, We can just turn you around. We don't have to give a hearing. And the only way you get a hearing is if you say, no, no, no, I'm an asylum seeker. And that's true under Trump, too.

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But let me just show you Terry Moran, because who clearly has waded in to legal matters that he is not qualified to speak on because he tried understanding what I just explained to be the law. Watch him try to pin down Trump. And Trump, I'm telling you, Trump is a clever mofo. Just when you think he's like focused on like the UFC and like his polls, he knows the nuances even of laws like this.

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Watch where he dodges on this attempt to pin him down. He knows about expedited removal. He knows about the lower standard on due process. And he doesn't allow Terry Moran one inch. It's not nine.

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Terry Moran was in the wrong. I don't know whether he's a lawyer or not. I am. I practiced law for 10 years and covered the Supreme Court for three. It is not true that everybody gets a hearing. It is not the law. Just Google. Go ahead and don't take my word. Google expedited removal.

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I hear you. I'm definitely further to the right than you are on it, but I totally get your point. I'll also say that this is another reason why Trump is using the Alien Enemies Act, because under the Alien Enemies Act, the amount of due process one would get before being ejected is down to its most minuscule level.

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And even the Supreme Court intimated that the first time it looked at this, saying some level of due process. They clearly understand it's not going to be as robust as the ACLU wants it to be.

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And yet you didn't go and meet with the family of Rachel Morin, who was killed in your state. And they're not standing. By a different illegal. Yeah. You didn't. Here is Stephen Miller took to the White House podium yesterday and spoke about the Jocelyn Nungari case, which I met at the 12 year old girl in Texas and just ripped it. Watch.

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I don't. No. Me neither. I think it's probably – and this is complete speculation. I do not have any inside information on this. But I think it's probably he's too neoconny and the strong strain within MAGA right now is the more – they call them the restrainers.

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Rachel Moran's mom was talking about how she went for a jog on a trail that they always walk together. It wasn't like some risky trail. It wasn't the dark of night. It was during the day. They'd done it a thousand times together as a family. It's like... our way of life is actively being changed, corrupted, actually ruined. Her mom's life is changed forever, right? By these people.

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And so it's like, I have to tell you, I have like zero empathy. And I'm sorry that the ones who came, even though it was illegal and didn't hurt anybody, but like actually tried to like blend in and get jobs have got to go too. But they do. I think they all have got to go. And then if they go, Trump said, if you go now, You could come back in.

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But if you stay and then we find out that you overstayed, you're never coming back into the country. And then you're in serious trouble. Okay, I got to take a quick break. Be right back. Dave's with us for the whole show.

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the ones who are not hawks. They don't want us rushing into war with Iran. We had a long talk with Tucker Carlson about this the other day, not involving Mike Walsh, but Mike Walsh has got a long history in the Congress, which made him some people's darling and some people's foil on this front. He was always more neocony and he's got a very important post.

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Don't forget, tomorrow's the big day where we will show you the world premiere of our film, now that we've been, with special guest stars who you will know very well and will thoroughly enjoy. Welcome back to the Megyn Kelly Show, everyone.

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Here with me today, Dave Portnoy, president and founder of Barstool Sports, otherwise known as El Presidente, Katy Perry, among others, receiving major backlash, not not for taking the flight, but for how they behaved afterward, like they actually were Alan Shepard and Neil Armstrong.

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And so she's come out to say she's feeling battered and bruised by the backlash via Variety, that the internet is a dumping ground for unhinged and unhealed people. But she has resolved, Dave, to keep looking to the light because she doesn't want to be further damaged by these unhealed people.

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To me, it's just so, it's just right on brand to go up there and act like you're Alan Shepard. And then when people are like, would you calm down? You took a vanity flight to outer space thanks to Jeff Bezos. That costs a million dollars a seat. And stop saying, Gayle King, have you been? Literally no one's been. It costs a million dollars. Shut up.

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And then when people have that reaction to you to act like, I will not be bruised by you broken people. I will go toward the, just stop talking. Just stop.

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We have some news on Meghan Markle, which we'll get to in just a bit. But before we leave hard news, because, yeah, Katy Perry's hard news. But I forgot to mention this thing about Pete Hegseth. So there's been a lot of speculation that he's going to go.

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Mike Walsh, for those just joining us, is reportedly out as national security advisor, along with his top deputy, Alex Wong, a man who's been underneath him there since he was sworn in. And some others, too. You heard Mark Halperin reporting that it's going to be a lot of the staff. that there's reportedly disarray over there. We don't know what the full story is, but we will.

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And there was a report in the New York Times about a month ago saying Tulsi, J.D., Pete Hegseth and Susie Wiles, chief of staff for Trump, stopped him from getting on board that train as it was pummeling toward war with Iran on behalf of or in connection with Israel. So who was on the other side?

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So there's speculation about whether Pete Hegseth is going to be forced out as Secretary of Defense. And I wanted to say this. So I love Mark Halpern, and he's been doing great in his new podcast. But he reported yesterday on Hegseth, and there was a bit of information in there involving yours truly, and I want to speak to it. So watch this.

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Are you like, yeah, I'm a, I'm a friend of Pete's and I supported his nomination and thought what they were trying to do to him and Trump's. Yeah. Trump too. Totally. Um, but I just want to say in my case, I can't speak for Tucker, but that's not true. Like I in no way put on, um, Colin Carroll, one of the fired accused leakers, he denies being one completely. Um,

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Plus, there are reports today, broken initially by our pal and now part of the MK Podcast Media Network, Mark Halprin, that National Security Advisor Mike Walz is out, that he's being forced out of the Trump administration. We will break it down for you. But today I am here live in New York City at the Sirius XM HQ, the worldwide HQ, where we have an incredible show for you.

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in an effort to undermine Pete or get rid of Pete or because my MAGA connections or sensitivities are telling me Pete's teetering and I'm trying to push him over the edge. Totally not the case at all. I'm just a news person. And they actually came to me and asked me if they could come on. Originally, it was all three of them. And then two of them got tapped on the shoulder by their lawyers.

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which I understand. But Colin was like, I'm doing it. So I'm like, fine, great. I mean, I'll interview Pete. I'll interview the guy Pete fired. I'll interview pretty much anybody you want to put in front of me unless I have a personal loathing for them. So just to make it clear that no one should be reading anything into what I know or what I want based on the fact that I interviewed Colin.

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Who were the administration officials saying, let's do this, what Netanyahu wants, like back them in bombing Iran or give them the bombs or we'll do the bombs? The realistic truth was we were gonna have to participate very meaningfully in that bombing campaign. We would have been at war with Iran. So it would have been an enormous thing to do And I do wonder whether that played some role.

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No, it's good to be benevolent on a big mistake, though, because if you can be, you'll never do something like that again.

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I got it. Fair enough. Well, it's a world that's very foreign to me. Very foreign to me. So you're going to have to walk me through our next two segments here. Okay. We got to talk about Bill Belichick.

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Okay. I mean, I thought it was elder abuse. I like, honestly, what I saw there was Dr. Jill. I had Dr. Jill vibes. This overly aggressive younger partner who's in this like, apparently he looked infirm to me the way he was answering those questions. Like, man, who's being taken advantage of. All I could think was his family needs to do an intervention and get this woman off of his back.

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So explain that to me, because I come into this at a left field. I know who he is, of course. Even I know who Bill Belichick is.

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But I don't follow his, you know, I didn't know about the girlfriend and all that. To me, he looked out of it. Like, he seemed confused. But I've never, ever seen him give an interview.

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Most of the audience has probably seen the clip by now, but just in case they haven't, let's play it for them. Let's play the one where she interrupts. This is Bill Belichick on CBS This Morning with anchor Tony Dokopoul and his 24-year-old girlfriend, who's 49 years younger than he is, interrupting the interview. Watch.

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OK, so now she said, how did you meet? And she interjects, not commenting about this. And there are reports that she actually interjected multiple times. CBS only chose to show the one just to give the audience a true sense of what how this thing is about the book and to CBS's defense sheet.

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that quote that he she is the muse is in the book it's in the book yeah exactly so um now this fight started unfolding online this is via the daily mail involving belichick's daughter-in-law she's married to his son and uh her name is jennifer she's married to his son steve belichick um Some people were defending Jordan, the girlfriend.

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So the Signalgate, it may have played a role. We don't know. I mean, here's what Mark Halperin said. When did this happen, by the way? Just now. It's happening right now.

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For example, somebody posted, oh, former New England Patriots star Julian Edelman. Saw that. You know him. Yep. Stuck up for her saying she was merely acting how any PR person would. Comedian Nikki Glaser also defended Hudson saying 100% she's acting as his publicist. Publicists do this during interviews. People are out for blood.

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And first of all, I'll tell you what Jennifer, the daughter-in-law, said, but I have done countless interviews, countless. I've both given as the subject of them and done, conducted. Literally has this – never. I've never seen this happen. Never. Right. The PR people will come to you before the interview and they will beg you not to cover this.

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Yes, exactly. That's their job. As a journalist, and Tony DiCaprio is a journalist, you would say – thank you for your input. That's it. You would never make a promise ever. It's literally considered unethical to say, I won't ask about that.

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You know, at most I've ever heard somebody say is we can't make you any promises, but you know, we're not that interested in that subject, like a wink and a nod, but never, never has a PR person ever, Ever interviewed, interjected into an interview like that. In the middle of it. It's very unusual.

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Different rules if it's like a host. You know what I mean? If you're sitting with somebody who doesn't consider themselves a journalist, very different. And by the way, this is how talk shows get away with it all the time. I've been asked to go on a bunch of talk shows, including Tamron Hall's like five years ago. And her executive producer said, we'll give you all the questions in advance.

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Yeah. You didn't miss it. So Mark Halperin is part of our new MK Media Network, which I'd love to ask you about because you run a very successful media network. Mm-hmm. And he had his first show on Tuesday, and his second show is today. He also does a show on YouTube called Two-Way, and he broke this news earlier today. Here's some of it with some more context, I believe, SOT7.

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So she got away with it because they consider that a talk show, but she's not, I guess, calling herself a journalist anymore, or at least wasn't for that show. Okay, so then Jennifer, Belichick's daughter-in-law, weighs in and says, "...publicists act in a professional matter and do not storm off set delaying an interview."

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Well, there's more. Uh-oh. You know about this because I saw you commented on it. So Bill Belichick posted a statement saying, On the UNC, University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill is where he coaches, right, Chapel Hill? Yep. And he wrote as follows. I agreed to speak with CBS Sunday morning to promote my new book, The Art of Winning.

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Prior to the interview, I clearly communicated with my publicist. So he's not even saying he told Tony Dokopoul or the CBS publicist. I clearly communicated with my publicist at Simon & Schuster that any promotional interviews I participated in would agree to focus solely on the contents of the book. Unfortunately, that expectation was not honored during the interview.

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I was surprised when unrelated topics were introduced, and I repeatedly expressed to the reporter, Tony Dokopoul, and the producers that I preferred to keep the conversation centered on the book. After this occurred several times, Jordan, with whom I share both a personal and professional relationship, stepped in to reiterate that point and help refocus the discussion.

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She was not deflecting any specific question or topic. I'm sorry, Bill, but she was. But was simply doing her job to ensure the interview stayed on track. Some of the clips made it appear as though we were avoiding the question of how we met, but we've been open about the fact that Jordan and I met on a flight to Palm Beach in 2021.

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And it goes on for them saying these are just selectively edited clips. suggested a false narrative that Jordan was attempting to control the conversation, which is simply not true.

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So the Daily Mail had a comprehensive piece, and they cited the New York Post as reporting, even before this past weekend's interview, Belichick's friends shaking their heads about his relationship with Jordan. quote, they're talking to him about her, but very gently because they know how deep in it he is. She saw an opening and she took it.

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An insider added of how she has inserted herself into every aspect of his life and career consensus among people around Belichick. Another source said is that this relationship is alarming and Hudson is a runaway train. However, they include one person defending them saying, um, When it comes to the situation, it is just a moment in time. He and Jordan are fine.

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Nobody should be concerned at this point. But then they also say, multiple reports say, UNC is growing uneasy with her involvement in everything.

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She's running from how they met. That seems clear. And I, in my opinion, they did not, quote, meet on a plane. See, I think they did because... No, I think they laid eyes on each other in person for the first time on a plane, but she's so defensive about it. There's something more to the story. I don't know what it was. Was it OnlyFans? Was it some setup by a matchmaker? See, I don't think so.

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No, I mean, listen, I view her the same way I viewed Anna Nicole Smith. Like everyone understands what the deal here is. He's an older guy with money and power, which some women find, if not attractive, worthy of being with. They can upgrade their lifestyle. They're going to travel the world.

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And the old guy gets some young, beautiful woman on his arm and probably a lot of hot sex he otherwise wouldn't be having.

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You have a new 24-year-old girl wants a 74-year-old man. I mean, that's not what you're attracted to. To me, it's an obvious attempt to be with power and money. It's like, look, a lot of women do that.

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Before we leave the topic of the Patriots, I remember asking you about this the first time you came out. You were on one other time, a long time before. I think we only had audio at the time. Do you hate or love Tom Brady? Love. Love. Okay.

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Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, it's a big-time deal. Okay. Shadur Sanders. Yes. So this is Deion Sanders' son.

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And he is the one – I quoted Deion Sanders before because he had some great quote, which was something to the effect of, if you look good, you play good. If you play good, they pay good. Yep. Which I love. That's very clever and cute. But his son, who was – many expected to go like, well, you tell me where in the draft. What was the expectation?

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Cause he's a big college QB. Yes. Okay. And then the draft comes and walk us through how that unfolded. Cause he was like the story that night.

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So very interesting. He's saying they wanted to dump him before Signalgate, but Trump didn't dump him after that because he didn't want to look like he was being reactive to the nasty.

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Why is President Trump involved? He tweeted somebody should take him, or what happened there?

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The left tries to make a controversy out of everything Trump does. Okay, but back to this. So Stephen A. Smith was on the show not long ago, and he posted something that I know you disagreed with, but explain it to me. So he posted, someone just texted me this message, and they're absolutely correct. Quote, this is a bad look for the NFL. This feels like Kaepernick-level collusion.

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All the hard work the NFL league office puts into eradicate these kinds of perceptions only to turn around and watch as the owners look like they're colluding, messing up everything. What has been done to Shador will outshine everything else in this draft. We'll never believe this is just about talent evaluation again. And it, that does seem to be a reference to race.

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So do you think Dion ultimately hurt his son by being such a big personality who they thought they were going to have to deal with more than they wanted to?

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Are the Browns any good? My friend is a diehard Browns fan. He's always complaining about how bad they are.

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That's fascinating. That's more for your next appearance. QB room with multiple massages. Okay. Very different from our job. Stand by. More with Dave right after this. With longer daylight hours, you might be spending more time away from home, giving burglars more opportunities to strike. That's a good news, bad news situation.

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You know how he said he came out yesterday and said he was the man that Kamala selected to speak to guys like you, white men of America. Well, that's crazy.

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the block of emerging superpowers, you know, including China, Russia, India, and Iran. They're meeting with the goal of displacing the U.S. dollar as the global currency. They're calling this the Rio reset. As BRICS nations push forward with their plans, global demand for U.S. dollars will decrease, bringing down the value of the dollars in your savings potentially.

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While this transition won't happen overnight, the Rio reset in July marks a pivotal moment when BRICS objectives move decisively from theoretical possibility toward inevitable reality, according to many experts. Learn if diversifying your savings into gold is right for you. Birch Gold Group can help you move your hard-earned savings into a tax-sheltered IRA and precious metals.

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Here's what he said. Let's watch it. We'll go from Mike Walls. I can't believe he's still talking. To Tim Walls. Here, let's watch.

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Now, we've covered ground that's more in my wheelhouse, and we've covered ground that's more in Dave's wheelhouse. And we finish on a note of solidarity that we both have strong feelings on, and that is Meghan Markle.

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So she has done the world premiere episode of actually being on someone else's podcast. And the someone else is – her name is Jamie Kern Lima. Yeah. Now, I have actually interviewed this person, but I didn't realize I had interviewed this person because she founded IT Cosmetics, which I remember interviewing her at NBC. I think it's the same lady. I could be wrong. She looks a little different.

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But anyway, she was a news anchor, and she realized that you have a need for cosmetics that are a little bit thicker because of the Klieg lights and all that. And her brand became a billion-dollar brand, and she sold it to L'Oreal for $1.2 billion in 2016.

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It's good. Good stuff. We sold you down the river. So she now has a podcast and is also apparently friends with Meghan. And in the world premiere of podcast, Meghan, Duchess of Sussex, she pulled out all the stops. Here is the intro of the episode. Look at this.

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Oh, my God. Why don't you like her? I just threw up a little in my mouth. What? Let me count the ways. There's nothing I like about her. Do you know her? No, but she is a malignant narcissist who cannot get enough of herself while she simultaneously plays the victim. My castle's too small. The queen is mean to me.

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They won't let me call myself Her Royal Highness anymore, but I'm going to put it all over my stationery and on the gifts that I give to my friends while she never stops whining. And at the same time, I'm getting all worked up. I'm a founder. I'm over it. She's not important. She married for money. It's very clear. She bagged the elephant. She was thrilled. She became a, quote, princess.

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It was planned from the beginning. She denied being interested in the royal family, which she totally was. I know someone who knows the ex-husband who said she had a vision board with Prince Harry on it. Before they met? Yes. And she wants to pretend.

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It was like shooting fish in a barrel. With all that self-help talk, he was no match for her.

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from Montecito about how knowing can work for her. She's a nightmare behind the scenes and not toward the betterment of her staff just because she's an insecure person who takes it out on other people. What was up with the no makeup?

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That's another thing. Maureen was saying this on her, Maureen Callahan has a new podcast for part of our network. With the makeup ladies. Yeah, and exactly right. And it's bullshit. So first of all, she had the hair blown out. It was perfect. I do not believe that she was makeup-free there. She didn't have eye makeup on, which is a different thing. But that's her being relatable, Dave.

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Yeah. So here she is talking about the joy— Is she on, like, your top ten hate list? Oh, yeah. She's top five. All right. The joy of working hard. I'm sure she's really toiling away. Take a listen.

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It's like a love to hate situation. I don't have actual hatred for her. I have that for very few people. It's a small list, but she's not on it. But I just can't stand her. I just think she's such a phony. I love to make fun of her because she continues to give me so much material. She comes across as a phony in that. Both of them. I've got to show you one more on that.

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It was their code. Their super stealthy code. M and H. Like when I call Doug, bug. Yeah. It's ridiculous. That's like choosing your alias as a famous person and it's John Smith.

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with Barstool Sports founder, Dave Portnoy. Cannot wait to spend two hours with Dave. If you're a homeowner, listen up. When's the last time you checked on your home title? That's the legal proof that you own your house. And the answer is probably never. The problem is in today's AI and cyber world, scammers are stealing home titles and your equity is the target.

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I feel like, you know, I have good people. I have faith in them. We have a good relationship, but famous last words. I take your point. So, I mean, your company now is huge, right? I read that in like 2002, you were filing for bankruptcy and now you're talking about the Trump tariffs costing you like $20 million. That's just what it cost you. So you're obviously hugely successful.

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Well, I find it entertaining. I go over there not really for sports, but when commentary comes into the news world. Political. And I love it. I love how frank it is.

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You're saying how you actually feel, which is – that's the name of this game. Right. That's for sure. By the way, my team tells me that this YouTube show for this Jamie lady, this squeaky-voiced makeup lady, is – they're at 251,000 views after three days, which is terrible.

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No. Or like at least 2.5 million. No one has any interest in actually hearing her talk about how hard her life is or how hard she's working or her secret code for H&M. Whomever could they mean? Who's going to crack this?

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Dave Portnoy, great to have you. Thanks for being here. Glad to be here. Yeah, hope to see you again. Okay, and don't forget, you can't miss tomorrow's show. We will debut our new film, Blonde Origin. Don't call it a ride. See you then.

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They're going to like the Pete Buttigieg's of the world to say, is this a man that regular American men can relate to? And he's like, yes, that's our guy.

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I mean, you could run it by a man like James Carville. He's got the ability to say that's not going to resonate with middle America.

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Yeah. Well, on top of all that, what does it say about the democratic party that they thought the guy who would speak to white guys in America is the guy who mandated tampons in boys rooms throughout Minnesota?

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Well, remember he put on the camo hat and he did some video where he was gaming and apparently he stunk at it. But he went out with a gun and was going to go hunting and it was very obvious to all Second Amendment people he was not familiar with a gun. He couldn't load it.

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All right. But but that's politics. So let's say they come to Dave Portnoy next time around and they're like, how do we reach regular guys and convince them to vote them?

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Remember, even when the black vote wasn't going as strongly for Kamala as the Dems wanted and Barack Obama showed up at that polling, that campaign office and was like, you're a bunch of sexists. Yeah, right.

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You may not want to see this, but Kamala Harris is also back in the news. And you tell me whether we dodged a bullet with this woman where she took to the stage last night at this group that's pushing to get more females involved in Democrat politics running for office. And here's how she sounded. I heard about this. Watch it. You'll enjoy.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Kelly, welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. We have a very special program for you this morning all about Tulsi Gabbard. When I first met Tulsi, she was still a Democrat, and it was early on in her career. When she first came on this show, we didn't even have video.

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This July, there is a global summit of BRICS nations in Rio de Janeiro, the bloc of emerging superpowers, you know, including China, Russia, India, and Iran. They're meeting with the goal of displacing the U.S. dollar as the global currency. They're calling this the Rio Reset. As BRICS nations push forward with their plans, global demand for U.S.

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Just as a reminder to our audience, you were a young 21-year-old state assembly person in Hawaii. And two years after that, you signed up, you enlisted in the National Guard, and you were deployed to Iraq. So you know firsthand about the blood and treasure.

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You're overseeing the group that could cause it. Yes. Pete Hexeth overseeing the group that would have to do it. Right. And both of you are in very powerful positions in advising President Trump about the risks and rewards. Right. There was a New York Times article within the past month saying you, he, J.D.

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Vance, and his chief of staff, Susie Wiles, were all together in urging him to not go too far on our actions against Iran. that we should not give Netanyahu what he wanted by either participating in or boldly and robustly supporting Israel bombing Iran, that that's a proxy for us, and there's no way we wouldn't be heavily involved. And that is not a position the United States wants to be in.

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dollars will decrease, bringing down the value of the dollars in your savings potentially. While this transition won't happen overnight, the Rio reset in July marks a pivotal moment when BRICS objectives move decisively from theoretical possibility toward inevitable reality, according to many experts. Learn if diversifying your savings into gold is right for you.

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And President Trump did not do it. He did not give Netanyahu the answer he wanted. I know you're not going to get into the specifics of what you advise the president, but can you explain your view of the dangers of barreling toward a potential conflict with Iran?

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On the Iran front, Here's the argument that the more neocon crew makes. All right, this is from Mark Dubowitz of Defense of Democracies, one of these think tanks in Washington that wants a hard line toward them. He recently tweeted, quote, Never a better time to dismantle its new program and finish off the regime. Will another president blink? How is he wrong?

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Do you feel the push, Tulsi, the push of this, like, strong neocon strain that's still within the Republican Party and probably in these agencies that's much more hawkish on an issue, including war in the Middle East, which we've just done for 20 years?

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And I mean, I appreciate as a mother of an 11, 14 and 15 year old, I appreciate that. I do not want somebody with their foot on the gas pedal recklessly pushing us into yet another war. And I think I speak for most people in the country on that. The leaks, we touched on it.

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It must be very disconcerting to be in a private meeting with the president with only top, top people and then a day later see it on the pages of the New York Times. Clearly, I assume you trust your fellow cabinet members and so on implicitly, but everyone has to speak to a staff about what happened and what needs to happen.

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And I wonder how rattling that is, because you're in the same position in a way that Pete Hegstaff is in, where people underneath you appear to be leaking even top-secret information that you can go to jail for leaking. But they clearly have such an agenda, it's worth it to them. So how has that affected you?

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Message and data rates apply. Kelsey Gabbard, I'm so excited to be here with you. There's significance to where we are. Why?

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And you're dealing with it with a firm hand, but how has it affected you when this happens?

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You've referred three people now to DOJ for criminal prosecution. Do you think they will be prosecuted?

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One of the leaks was it spoke to what Trump is trying to do with the deportations, not the securing of the southern border, but the deportations. And he has declared under the Alien Enemies Act an invasion or incursion, in part saying that the Venezuelan government has dispatched Trenda Aragua, this gang, to come into the United States and commit mayhem.

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And one of the things that was leaked from someone in the intel community was That didn't happen. There is no official link between the Venezuelan government and Trenda Aragua. Therefore, it's not an incursion. It's not an invasion. It's very clear why somebody would leak that to try to undermine the president's use of the Alien Enemies Act. Is that one of the leaks being investigated?

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I'm listening to you. I'm rolling my eyes at the thought of a judge trying to overrule effectively you and President Trump on whether it's been an incursion, on whether the intel supports this link without having any access to any of these materials.

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I mean, when you see the courts really trying to get involved in this and seeming to be on a road towards saying we are allowed to declare whether there is an incursion or they're not.

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You don't do a judicial daily brief every day. You don't sit with Judge Boasberg or the U.S. Supreme Court and tell them all the things that he hears. No. That's what's so absurd about it.

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We didn't get any. You guys have been helping with that. I want to ask you about this. This is the National Counterterrorism Center's border security has actually helped President Trump quite a bit in nabbing a bunch of these gang members, from what I can see. Leads on approximately, what, 750 individuals in the U.S. who have ties to some of these gangs, like Trenda, Aragua, MS-13. Yeah.

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and also the Sinaloa cartel. Can we spend some time, let's first speak about that. And then let's spend some time on the cartels, which I saw you recently listed as your number one security concern. Above Iran, above China, above Russia, the cartels. So let's do it in that order. The wins at the border and how you guys are helping.

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Wow. Yeah, your role was created after 9-11. Yes. As a result of all that. Now you oversee 18 intelligence agencies. Can I just ask you as a practical matter, you come in, you had a background in intelligence when you were in the House. It's not like you never touched it.

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Before we get to the cartels, what's your level of confidence? You can't speak for DHS, but within the intel community, the ones that you guys are identifying, what's your level of confidence that they actually are gang members or cartel members? Because some in the public have been led to believe it's very willy-nilly. You're picking up random hairdressers and deporting them.

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How high is the bar before you communicate to the Tom Homans of the world, it's this one and that one and the other one?

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On the subject of the cartels. Yes. The fentanyl remains the number one killer of Americans. I think it's 18 to 44 now. I mean, it's not just the super young. It's like those are the main years of your life. That's when you're totally thriving. You're making a family. Number one killer. And we just did a long special on this the other day because yesterday was National Fentanyl Awareness Day.

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And we were talking with these documentary makers about how they'll flood the border on one side so that the border agents will go over here and then they'll send the fentanyl over on screen right where nobody's covering it. Because that's their main goal is to get the fentanyl into a country that's desperate for it.

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Where we have some, we're 4.5% of the world and we're 40% of the fentanyl consumers. So it's crazy. Sounds good, taking on the cartels, evil, very dangerous. Also sounds like a nightmare of a never-ending war that could turn into some sort of homegrown terrorism problem here in the United States. So how do you calculate the risks here?

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Can you just speak to, it's not just coming from the southern border. Right now, they're going around. They're using the northern border. That's right. They're shipping things in from the west coast, the east. I mean, we like to think of ourselves as isolated, but we're really not that isolated from these cartels. That's right.

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Number two on the list was China. Number three was Russia. If memory serves, number four was Iran. Let's skip to Russia for a second. With longer daylight hours, you might be spending more time away from home, giving burglars more opportunities to strike. That's a good news, bad news situation. FBI crime data shows that break-ins are more likely during daylight hours than at night.

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Big news today, as President Trump announces that he has struck this deal with the Ukrainians for a minerals deal, where we're going to have access to some of their rare earth materials. And it's not necessarily a repayment for all of the aid that we've given them, but it gives us a reason to be involved in Ukraine, to look out for Ukraine.

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And President Trump thinks it'll be a deterrent to Putin in starting things back up again if he's able to put this to bed. The critics say, these are former Biden people, there's nothing to be gained in Ukraine. They don't have the rare minerals that we need. That's why we're all buying the stuff from China to begin with. So we've bought a pig and a poke. What do you say?

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It was an audio-only podcast, and you could hear her with the birds tweeting in the background from her home state of Hawaii and the two of us. were wondering what our next move was in life. This podcast was fledgling. She had been ostracized by the Democrats and the Democrat Party. And here we are five years later, both in very different places.

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Think about the things we could have used some of that money for with all due respect to the Ukrainians.

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I mean, we're talking about the southern border, how porous it is, more agents, maybe at the northern border, more agents, maybe to inspect some of the cargo that gets shipped in, maybe some treatment programs for people who get addicted to this poison and will be dead, if you play the odds, within 18 months.

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Maybe more immigration judges so we can give all that due process the Democrats want us to give. You know, there's so many other ways we could have spent that money.

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So you show up here, you get confirmed. I mean, what's the first thing that happens? As a practical matter, do you say, like, let me see the JFK files?

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We were talking about Russia briefly. You and I have talked before about how Hillary Clinton labeled you a puppet of Putin, a Russian asset. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, shamefully, said the same. And I saw recently President Trump withdrew Hillary Clinton's security clearance, which you had to do. Yes. That must have been a little fun.

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Well, I mean, it's called the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. That's right. That's what it's supposed to be used for. Yeah, it's a good reminder. Yeah. On the subject of saving money, you're doing some of that right here. Yes.

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And in part, it relates to enacting President Trump's DEI directives and pulling back on some of the nonsense that I know you and all the other agencies were spending money on, not you, you, but the intel community. Can you speak to a little bit of, like, what you found? Because you're doing your own doge. You're doing DIG. Yes. So that's under you. You didn't outsource.

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This is not one of the areas that Elon and Doge came into. You did it on your own, and I understand why.

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Well, wasn't there a group, which intel agency was it that had the people talking about transgender surgeries and non-binary this? This is the National Security Agency. Yeah, there's sex groups, polyamory.

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Speaking of the last administration, one question for you on Signalgate. As I heard you say this recently, is this the first administration to use Signal for confidential chats? Absolutely not.

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I mean, you actually saw something that told you this was in fact being used by the Biden administration who are out there all over X and other social media ripping everyone who was on that signal gate thread to shreds. That is correct. So there's no question in your mind this was used during the Biden administration by officials.

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You feel like it was unfair to Pete and Mike Walz? I mean, they took the brunt of it.

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Not surprised. Exactly. As I've listened to you over this hour, I've had one thought recur to me over and over and over, and it is first female president. That is what I, like, I look at you and I see it. And I know they put you through the meat grinder the last time, but that was the other side. Now you've crossed over.

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But notwithstanding how rough that was when you when you ran for president the first time, have you ruled out ever doing it again? Could we potentially see a Tulsi 2028 try? Right.

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And now... You and I sit here having done something the two of us back in 2016 never would have thought we would have done, which was stood up on a stage and endorsed Donald Trump. Now you're working for him. I endorsed him too.

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You are very generous to even mention that. What you did for President Trump was phenomenal. Huge. And seeing you up there and announcing, like, you're partisan change. You, you know, were with Trump. It was this, that was like the team of rivals or the Marvel universe coming together. The Avengers. Yeah, the Avengers. You're one of them. You're one of the most, and the gray streak is part of it.

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It just works. But I wonder if you do decide to do something, you know, in the future, running for president or individual executive leadership, what have you learned from him? What would you want to take away from the kind of leader Trump is?

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Those are things we see in you, too. Boldness, courage, and you share something else with him, which is fearlessly independent. That's what's going to take you forward. Thank you so much. It's so good to see you. Thank you very much.

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So how do you, I have no doubt that the people in this building like you as a person, but you have to fight the deep state's loathing of your boss, right? I mean, there's no question there's a fair amount of loathing by Democrat, you know, lifers that work in these buildings for him. Yes. And that's why I think we see leaks, you know, whether it's at the Pentagon or from here.

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And you've had a couple and you've handled them very well and very firmly. But how do you battle that? I mean, it's like they have an agenda.

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She's now running at the top of 18 intelligence agencies. And I'm down here interviewing her at the Office of the Director of National Intelligence. So many did not want her to get this post because while Hillary Clinton and others accused her of being Putin's puppet, et cetera, what crushes them about Telsey Gabbard is she's no one's puppet. She won't be bought. She won't be bullied.

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Did we learn something new in the RFK and JFK documents in particular? I didn't follow it that closely, to be honest. But my takeaway was most people thought it didn't add that much. Am I wrong?

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Did you get a briefing from somebody who said, holy God, it really was the CIA?

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Well, it's even more reason to release it if it doesn't have anything. You know, it's like you must have looked at some of this and said, why was this kept a secret for so long? Exactly. It just sends people spinning. Exactly. On the subject of documents that we'd like to see but haven't, COVID and its origins.

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I'm sure you saw that just before we sat down tonight, the Chinese State Council Information Office, I don't even want to know what that is, but it sounds bad. They have determined that COVID came from us. That it's more likely than not that COVID originated in the United States and not in China. I'm wondering whether you have any dispute with that based on what you've seen over here.

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The intelligence community has been responsible for trying to figure out in part how this thing started.

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It's the annoying website to which YouTube and all social media used to refer people with Fauci talking points, and now it's been completely taken out.

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And she won't be cowed in saying how she really feels by the military industrial complex or anyone else. So we just completed a fascinating hour-long talk about so many different things. It's Tulsi, like you've seen her a bit before, you know, still straightforward and moving and honest in her commentary, but in a brand new, really big role. Enjoy.

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Let me ask you specifically, because we already know that EcoHealth Alliance was partnering with this Wuhan lab to create, to do gain-of-function research. That's right. We just have never been able to have somebody say, and it was that exact experiment that led to this COVID bug. But have we gotten there? What's the new thing that you're digging in on?

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I mean, that would be extraordinary because just so the audience knows, if that's true, if it was Peter Daszak's research with the Wuhan so-called bat lady that caused this pandemic, then we did fund it. Then Anthony Fauci helped fund the pandemic.

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And then strong-armed and smeared people like Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, anybody who came out and said, I don't know if that's natural. This actually smacks of lab.

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Can I just ask you one other question on that? Why did the intelligence community, why were they so reluctant to just say that? You know, under Joe Biden, it was split. The FBI eventually said, well, we kind of think it was the lab. The Department of Energy said lab. But then the other agencies were like, no, we think more natural origin.

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Long past the point when it did not look like natural origin. They tested 80 or 90,000 animals. They never found this version of the virus. So What was going on with the intel community?

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and today's weekend best of special. We had a busy week on the program, beginning on Monday, looking at two important moments for President-elect Donald Trump.

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I know. All she has left is her little jars of jam, Amala. She's not going to be the first lady of Montecito. She's not going to be anything other than a jam proprietor, which is fine. It's fine. It just wasn't her lifetime goals.

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She's out there with Tyler Perry and Oprah instead of welcoming the incoming president of the United States, as she might have if she had just, oh, done the terrible work of sticking with the royal family.

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Yeah. It's so true. Like Trump has provided everyone with a roadmap of how to do it. If even Trump could get reelected after J six, after all the fascism claims and the Hitler claims and the American people spoke overwhelmingly saying, we don't care. We want a different way of living. We want to go back to basics here in America. We need a factory reset on this nonsense.

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Then there's a, there's a roadmap for other world leaders to say, I see what people want. We've been led astray going in the wrong direction. I want to show you this too. Um, Trump shook hands with Zelensky at the Elysee Palace. They were there with Emmanuel Macron on Saturday. And it was an interesting handshake.

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Trump is famous or infamous for his handshakes, the power handshakes where he pulls you in. He loves to pull you in. He's holding him and holding him. Okay, so there we go. He held him. And now here's Macron next to him, the three of them. And here we go. This is back example where he pulls in Macron. There he goes. And then it turns into like...

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look holding he doesn't let go of him look at him he won't let go this is when he met with macron what is it with trump and the handshake what's happening look yeah look look look there he goes again elbow up now elbow up above above macron it's like clearly a sign of dominance love to get a body language on uh expert but what do you guys make of the handshake

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I do want to tell you something funny about the handshake. My husband, Doug asked one of our friends who's CIA about the Trump handshake. And he showed us a way that like a man, I mean, he doesn't do this to women, but that a man can like stop the crushing grip and then pulling you in. It's like a maneuver that the CIA guys know, or like you can, you can Trump handshake. the dominant pull in.

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And we were like, oh, that's good. That's good. You know, we'll have to remember that. Not me, but Doug. And then we talked to Jack Carr, famous author and Navy SEAL. And he said, oh, no, that can easily be counteracted and showed us a double secret, triple secret move to counter the CIA move. So now, I mean, poor Doug has got a lot to remember.

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I'm so grossed out by this reaction to the murder of this insurance company's CEO. And it's pretty widespread on the left how they are lionizing the alleged murderer. And I mentioned Taylor Lorenz because she's pretty indicative of it. She worked for The New York Times. She worked for The Washington Post.

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She was fired by The Washington Post this fall when she posted on her Instagram, Joe Biden is a war criminal. When they chastised her for posting such a thing as a so-called reporter, she denied she had done it and claimed she'd been hacked. They fired her, not believing her excuse. And then a month or so later, she definitely posted on her social media, Joe Biden is a war criminal.

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kind of removing the mystery about whether it had been her the first time. And now this woman is all over online on her sub stack and elsewhere trying to justify this man's murder and goes on with Piers Morgan on his YouTube show last night saying the following.

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Okay, so there was that. And there is a problem with Venezuelan gangs in Colorado. Take a look at the very in-depth piece that City Journal did on it. I don't know why she's pretending that it's not a problem, but that's NBC for you. Here is a little bit more on the subject of children and families in Sot 5.

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Yeah. And is giving voice to what we've seen all over the internet with thirsting after this guy and celebrating his looks and counting him as some sort of courageous guy, as they say, who shoots a man dead in the street, an unarmed man in the back. And, and

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in the left's world this is courage here is that guy tim miller who couldn't find the stones heather to ask doug emhoff who he had right across from him right after the story broke that he had according to his ex-girlfriend slapped her with an open hand across the face so hard outside of a festival in con france that she spun this is like a year before he got together with kamala harris

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He couldn't find the stones to ask him the question, would you like to respond to that? Is it true that you hit this woman? You who are being lauded by the left as the new version of masculinity, non-toxic, the way the Republican version is. This guy, Tim Miller, couldn't find the stones to ask him those questions.

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But here he is today with his thoughts about this alleged killer of CEO Brian Thompson.

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I have a lot for you on Daniel Penny today, which I will do next. But you're exactly right. I mean, I think the Trump election was a declaration that the normies are with us. We've reclaimed the normies who were leftist adjacent. you know, open-minded to self-flagellation as required by BLM and the trans activists.

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Like, okay, if that's what I need to do to be a good person, I'm open, I'm listening. And now they've just been completely rejiggered to normalcy. Wait a minute, you people are the loons. We're not doing that. We're not opening the border. I'm going back with a side of reason. I think they're back with us, but it doesn't mean the loons went away.

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They're still a part of the Democrat party and they're vocal and they're not giving one inch to Taylor Lorenz is one example of that. But they're all over CNN and MSNBC in the wake of Penny, which is the other big story today, saying all the things you'd expect them to say about how we've normalized vigilantism. The same people, they see him as we're celebrating a vigilante in the case of Penny.

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But on the CEO, Brian Thompson, you've got some of those same people saying right on. You know, the guy had some good points.

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But it is interesting. I mean, like, and then you move on, of course, to politicians where it's like, and certainly nobody's advocating this. I'm just saying that if you want to talk about a politician who's really had a massive effect on healthcare, the first person to come to mind would be Barack Obama. If you like your plan, you can keep your plan.

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If you like your doctor, you can keep your law, your doctor, which was a lie. And his Obamacare plan led to the loss of individual relationships between a patient and his doctor over and over and over again, a patient and her plan over and over and over. So if we're green lighting, we're now green lighting violence against public figures who affect our health care. How do they reconcile that?

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I mean, how is it not a call for multiple assassinations? It's just such insanity. That's why I refuse to even have the discussion. I refuse to have the discussion about the state of modern insurance care in America right now. Maybe at some point we'll discuss it, but certainly not in response to this lunatic who is being covered like this.

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Heather, just to give you one other example, would you look at CNN talking about this murderer, this suspected murderer? Watch this.

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Okay, so what happened in that clip for the listening audience is that Casey Hunt, the anchor, chimes in, we've got to drop the banner to show them why. Like, show him his abs. There's something incredibly crass, sophomoric, simple about the discussions these people are having around this man who gunned down a fellow American.

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We haven't seen an open assassination attempt like this in a long time, Heather, and the seriousness is just missing.

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These are not people we can reason with. We just have to defeat them and forge on without them.

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I do want to ask you just, you're not a psychologist or a psychiatrist, but it is bizarre, Heather, that this guy was valedictorian of this Tony Boyce School in Maryland, went on to the University of Pennsylvania where he got a BA and an MA in computer science, engineering, and math, I think was his minor, right?

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Good for Trump. I mean, he's exactly right that he's anticipating where this plan is going to meet significant pushback from the press, which is when there's a child to an illegal or a sympathetic woman who's married to or with an illegal. And Tom Homan is saying the illegal is going. And if you don't want to separate the families, you have the choice of going with them.

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goes on to work for some tech companies, though I will say the employment history started to get a little sketchy. They say he's worked, he worked for 10 different companies in the past 10 years. Now that would have been six when he was 16 to 26, but it's not like he found a great job and just kept it upon graduating from UPenn. Um,

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I'll just show you a little bit from his high school graduation speech as valedictorian. He wasn't particularly articulate or impressive, I will admit. But he seemed normal. He seemed normal. And this is just, you know, eight years ago. Listen to this.

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All the advantages, education, wealth, apparently a nice family that was looking for him when he went missing at age 26, couldn't find him, was doing its best to try to retrieve him. Lots of friends, you know, according to them, good looks. I... It's just, it's very strange what would make him go from that to, I'll listen, I'll let you hear it from John Miller, who's an intel analyst now on CNN.

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He's the chief law enforcement and intel analyst talking about what was in his manifesto that the police found on his person when they arrested him, SOC 10.

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We broke down his lengthy and substantive interview with NBC News with Batya Angar Sargon and his overseas trip to Paris featuring a friendly little chat with Jill Biden and Prince William. And Trump's reaction to that was hilarious. Then Heather MacDonald was here to talk about the insane reaction to the murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson from the leftists and some in the media.

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We need to talk about Caitlin Clark. So Caitlin Clark of Iowa, but now playing for Indiana in the WNBA, gets honored in time as the athlete of the year. I don't know. I guess they need a lot of covers or something. I mean, whatever. They just want people who are going to sell their shitty magazine. So she gets selected as athlete of the year. And what does Caitlin Clark do?

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And then the media will look at the rest of us who are favored deportations and say, you It's your fault as opposed to the decision of this illegal who decided to bring a child here or send a child here, notwithstanding the fact that they have no right to be here.

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Like this woman who's a superstar. She's the Michael Jordan of the WNBA. And she's become a phenom in part because... The players of the WNBA can't fucking stand her. Why? Because she's white. It's abject, absolute racism. It's total racism. And one of the things that's been admirable about Caitlyn is she just continues to play her game. and put points on the board. And she does very well.

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And she wins games and she puts butts in the seats and she sells tickets and she gets people tuning in on television. And all really we want to hear from anybody about this is thank you. Thank you to Caitlin Clark for making our league relevant and so on. But instead, she's been bullied repeatedly by the players in this league. She's been assaulted physically. She's been scratched in the eye.

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And I mean, all this is on camera. We've covered it repeatedly on the show. So she gets this, honor. And all she has to do is continue staying above it. Thank you. I'm grateful. Love being in the WNBA. And I love my colleagues who I played with my teammates. That's it. Instead, she decides to go racial. And what she says is she feels the need to acknowledge her white privilege.

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Basically, she's sorry she's white. She feels really bad about it, though, so you should give her a pass. And then she makes a point of saying the ones we really need to be celebrating are the black women on whose backs this league was built. which I have to tell you is so condescending.

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It's true that most of these black women have been bullying her and want her to understand it's their league. Hello, you don't own the league. Blacks don't own the league just like whites don't own tennis or golf. Nobody owns the league. Pete, this is America. Anybody can play if they're good enough. Um, but they want her on the knee.

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You'll bend the knee and you'll apologize for being white and you will suck up to the black women who built this league before you, or you will be beaten. You will be assaulted and you will be bullied with no friends. So she does it. She finally did it. She bent the knee, self-flagellated over white privilege and look at, look at the black women in this league.

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And I have to tell you, if I were a black woman in that league, I think I'd say, screw you. Because don't treat me like I am the ugly stepsister and you are Cinderella and no prince is going to look at me unless Cinderella says, oh, give her a little time. Oh, put her in the spotlight for a moment. I would be offended, genuinely offended by her. Like, look over there. Look at them.

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They're not white. They did a lot, too. And here's the other thing. It's totally insincere. And here's how you know it's totally insincere. Because if Caitlin Clark really felt uncomfortable in the spotlight as the newbie who's white, Because white people didn't build the league. She wouldn't have said yes to being Time Magazine's athlete of the year. So either walk the walk or don't.

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But what you're doing here is trying to have it both ways. You're too cute by half. And you've managed to piss off your fan base. Go ahead and look at my Twitter feed and the comments under my tweet on this. She's lost thousands of fans, maybe more as a result of this. And you will never appease the race bullies in the WNBA ever because you're too popular. You're too talented and too white.

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Here's the other thing, Duncan. Here's the other here's the other question. I don't remember Serena Williams apologizing for her blackness in tennis, which had been dominated mostly by whites. I don't remember Tiger Woods apologizing for his blackness in the, you know. whatever, PGA, which was dominated by whites. No one would even think of such a thing.

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They celebrated this new figure in sports who maybe didn't look like all the other figures they knew. They thought it was great. He was to be celebrated. That's how normal people have responded to Caitlyn.

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You know, imagine a world just we got to keep this going because it's like I'm so fired up about it. But imagine a world in which Serena and Venus take over tennis. They crush and the and the thought pieces that are being written are or the comments that they are required to say are. I just want to acknowledge that tennis was built on the back of white people like Chrissy Everett. Yeah.

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And Martina Navratirola and Billie Jean King. And, you know, I have black privilege in being here because of my whatever. However, she wants to attribute that it wasn't explained by Caitlyn either. Exactly how her white privilege got her some more attention in the league. That's the theory by some racists that the only reason we want to watch Caitlyn is because she's white.

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And we can't stand watching the blacks, but we'll watch the white, which is absurd. She's by far the best. The stats prove it. That's why she's so popular. But in what world would we ever be comfortable saying to these black superstars, you better acknowledge the backs on whose bodies tennis and golf and whatever white sport you can think of was built. I mean, it's an absurdity.

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What we know about Kaylin Clark is she's reportedly dating some very, very woke leftist. But what we know about her is she liked Taylor Swift's. endorsement of Kamala Harris. So she seems to be telegraphing something about her politics, even though she doesn't often tweet or post about politics.

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It seems pretty clear she was in that lane hoping Kamala Harris got elected, though when asked about it, she tried to play it off as she was just really in favor of people informing themselves about the issues and making sure they vote. Okay, sure. There isn't a Trump voter in the world that would have liked the Taylor Swift endorsement of Kamala Harris and Tim Walz.

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So she definitely is a Democrat and probably a leftist who believes this crap. I have to think she believes in this crap. This is the first real window we are getting into the way she thinks. And I couldn't care less if she's a Democrat. As I've said many times, the people in my family are Democrats. A lot of people I love are Democrats. It's not about that.

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It's about this sick ideology and the fact that she bent both knees. She got down on both knees and begged for forgiveness for her whiteness and then was condescending to the black women in the league while she did it. It was an utter fail. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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Moreover... Tell it to the American families right now that are dealing with schools that are overrun by children from these foreign countries who are not here lawfully. And now in places like New York, you have to have a translator speak in the native tongue of all the children who are represented. So no matter where they're from, they can't even find enough translators. Never mind.

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Ask them whether they have teaching capacities. It's absolutely unworkable. So I think a lot of previously sympathetic Americans... I have had it voted for Trump to get rid of. Yes, even the children. I'm sorry, but they have to go. If they if you want to go back home and apply for asylum or try to get in legally, like so many millions have done before you, you should do that.

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But you have no right to break our laws, to enter the country unlawfully and then just play your sad violin and tell us we should allow you to stay here. There are procedures for that. You flouted them. Hold on. Here's a little reaction after Trump appeared and saw 28.

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The fellas from the Ruthless program stopped by to talk through the Caitlin Clark story, how she bent the knee to the race hustlers in the WNBA and apologizing for her whiteness. We got into that and more. We'll be back on Monday. See you then. Donald Trump goes on Meet the Press this weekend in an extraordinary hour-plus exchange with Kristen Welker.

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Jen Psaki with the still Hitler, still Hitler, notwithstanding the new tone. Here's the last one I want to play for you, Baja, and that is the discussion about whether he's going to go after his enemies, in particular, potentially with Kash Patel, if he gets confirmed as head of the FBI. SOT6.

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Pretty remarkable in terms of tone, yes. But also, Jen Psaki, the actual messaging, retribution will be our success. Do you think that the media will accept it? And do you believe it? Because he didn't rule out entirely Kash Patel going after his political enemies. He just said if somebody's corrupt or crooked, he'd have an obligation to do it.

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But I believe retribution is achieved through success.

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It's so crazy with the, you know, the Democrats are the ones who started the lawfare. They're the first ones to cross that Rubicon. They did it. And now they're acting like, oh, he's going to target. You know, we've got to preemptively pardon people like Adam Schiff and Adam Kinzinger. I don't know who else is on their imaginary list. I'm sure we're going to find out.

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And they got into what's going to happen in his second term with respect to immigration. Here, I'm just going to play some for you. Here is SOT4. Take a listen.

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As though Trump has done this before. They did this. You know, my husband, Doug, he used to watch our little dogs when we'd take them to the park and like the male dog, Bailey, he would pee on like a fire hydrant. And then another male dog would come and pee on it. And then Bailey would pee on it. And then the other dog, and Doug would just say, it's like a nuclear arms race.

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Like everybody keeps trying to escalate. And that's the Democrats. You know, it's like everybody peed on the fire hydrant. That was the thing. But then they went and they peed on like the leg of an actual human. And, and then, and, and, and now they're worried that like our side is going to It's like, you know, you guys are the only ones who did that.

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You don't have to create some new rule saying no one can pee on the humans. Like you're the only ones who ever did it. Also interesting was his trip over to France. He attended the reopening of the Notre Dame Cathedral, which we were all thrilled to see happen. One of the world's treasures. And a very interesting moment where he sat one away from Jill Biden and the person in between them got up.

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And so it was just those two for a moment. And they were super friendly. Here's a full screen of it. Picture. They were smiling. And so many people had a million captions for this. I'll stay on you for this one, Link. How would you caption that one with Jill and Trump smiling at each other?

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She may wind up getting one. There are going to be a lot of Biden's who still get pardoned. But it was very interesting to see, you know, the two of them over there chummy. It was to the point where it became such a meme that Trump put out this full screen, this sort of like graphic ad showing Jill and Trump together. Was it Trump who put this? Yeah, it was for Trump who put this out.

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It reads a fragrance your enemies can't resist. And it says fight, fight, fight. And it actually is a Trump fragrance that he's trying to market. So what do you make of it? I think it's about time. Yeah, are they actually friendly? Did they both vote for the same person?

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Here, we saw in that video that he was shaking hands with the Italian prime minister, and we saw Prince William standing there shaking his hand. And Trump, after the fact, said something. We don't have this on tape, right? Do we have that on tape?

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Oh, it's via the New York Post was commenting on how attractive Prince William is saying, you know, he's such a good looking guy and was saying even more handsome in person. He goes, he's a good looking guy. He looks really very handsome last night. Some people look better in person. He looked great. He looked really nice.

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You keep saying sort of I'm nuts because I don't see the difference between the elephant and the mouse. And I'm telling you, I identify them differently than you do. Hillary Clinton, of course, is the original election denier. I'm sure you voted for her in 16. Well, she's not an election denier. She absolutely was the OG election denier.

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Part of her nature, like the way she projects this self-deprecating nature is what makes her so attractive and charming.

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So how did you feel when you got the call from Trump? You know, you and I talked when you were, you weren't even in politics. You had just returned to Ohio from San Francisco. You were telling me you just couldn't take like the people openly defecating on the sidewalks. It was a lot from this kid, this kid from, you know, Midwest. You weren't even in politics.

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And now, you know, flash forward eight years later, you get the call from President Trump asking you to be his running mate. How did he put it to you? How did he ask you and how did it feel?

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The book does spend some time on positive messaging and how you talk about the astronaut theory and how when we're raising our kids, we don't want to overcorrect so much against everybody gets a trophy society that we veer into cynicism with our kids. Now, I mean, let's be realistic. You're not actually going to the NFL. Maybe you should channel your energies a different way.

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You're very much against that. I think the positive uplifting name for yourself is totally in line with now I know how you parent your own daughters.

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Yeah. There's no, but I'll give it an opportunity. committed to that at this point in your life. So I want to ask you this because you're very positive in your messaging. You're real, but you're positive in your messaging. And then there was a chapter I wanted to ask you about, which was 16. This wasn't you. It was Aaron McGruder, who was the man behind the Boondocks comic strip.

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And it was the only chapter I was like, wow, well, this is not positive. This is some stark stuff. And it's about race.

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Yeah, it's about race in America. And it's about, you know, us allegedly being a white supremacist country and Republicans don't do shit for poor white people, but they still vote Republican and they do it because if they were to vote Democrat, the N-word would benefit. It's got a lot of incendiary thoughts on how evil Republicans are because they really just exist to keep the black man down.

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And it's not you, but you have put it in your book by this guy, Aaron McGruder. So what are your feelings on that?

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What do you think that is? Like, what do you think that is? Because I know there's a divide between the parties and some factions of the country that, you know, the Democrats, and we keep hearing them saying things.

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We heard Biden at the Morehouse College the other day saying with a very dark message about this country that the country doesn't love you back as a young black graduate and talking in very negative terms about what their futures look like. And you contrast that just to what Barack Obama said in front of the same audience, you know, eight years ago, it was very uplifting and also empowering.

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Like you can do it. You can make a difference in this great country. You have nothing but blue sky ahead of you. Very different stark messages. What's in chapter 16 sounds more like Biden. So how do you see it? More like Biden, more like Obama?

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How do you see those women and like your arc with them, J.D. ?

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And then- Some shocking stuff in that Old Testament.

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You're like, that's not on the drop down menu of message manager, meeting manager.

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I know what you're saying. My audience knows I've been having a not unrelated struggle on that exact score.

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Yeah, yeah. I'm Catholic, lifelong Catholic, and I started the process of having my first marriage annulled And instead of like bringing me closer to God or setting me in a path that I thought would land well, it really has kind of alienated me. And it's caused a bit of a crisis of faith, like who are these middlemen I have to go through in order to have a clean relationship with God?

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That doesn't make any sense to me. I think God loves me and God sees me in a loving marriage with three wonderful kids who have two great parents who are in love. And he's thrilled and he will accept me into his kingdom when it's all said and done. And if he doesn't, it's certainly not going to be because I didn't get a paper.

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I got a paper divorce from Dan, but I didn't get an annulment from a priest, you know, and then Mary dug in a Catholic church. It doesn't make any sense to me. So that's sort of where I am right now. I'm still wrestling with it.

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I got tons of great feedback, by the way, thank you to my audience, because so many thoughtful emails on it, you know, from Catholic listeners, but also just Christian listeners who don't believe in that, you know, middleman thing either. I haven't resolved it.

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A lot of people said it. A lot of people say, but look, I agree with you that the majority of the Republican Party doesn't believe that. But I do think there's a difference between it was stolen, you know, the nonsense with Dominion voting machines and all that versus it wasn't fair.

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How about the suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop story? Just for one.

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There are polls that show some 10% to 12% of the electorate says they would have changed their mind had they seen it, had they known about it.

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I think the positive, uplifting name for yourself is totally in line with now I know how you parent your own daughters.

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You said nobody. You're talking about yourself. I'm telling you, there are data to show people did care. They said they would have changed their vote.

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I do have a lot of Democrats on the show, but the answer is not to change anything about my content. It's to make sure the algorithm picks up the content.

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you were doing campaign work and comms work for Trump. But what about in the interim? Like, what'd you do after Trump 1.0 until then?

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It wasn't about Hunter Biden's man parts. It was about the scandal of his corruption and his dad's corruption. Bill, I used to think that Hunter Biden was a hot mess and Joe Biden was embarrassed by him but had to deal. Now I really think he was doing Joe Biden's bidding. Joe Biden is the bad guy who sent his drug-addled son out there to collect money. That's what the laptop shows.

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There's a reason for all these steps in the journey.

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You're a nicer person than I am. I definitely do not have respect for anybody who puts their name on a ballot. I can think of several people who never should have done that. But you're generous. All right, so at the same time, you're building a family life. You fall in love. I didn't know until today that you married a man who's a lot older. He's 59, you're 27. How did that happen?

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He's a romantic man. So there's your babe who was born in July.

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What's his name? Nicholas. And we call him Nico. Yeah. I know we talked about this a little backstage at the Super Bowl, but how are you handling? I mean, true new motherhood is not even a year and this crazy job.

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That's my Nana who died at 101. She was in her elderly years. not that able to like get it out and around. So if I had a important court argument that was on tape, I would show it to her and she would get so mad at the judges. She didn't think that they should be allowed to ask me any questions. She didn't like opposing counsel. Why is he saying that about you? They don't totally get it.

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It's a motherly bias that we have for our babies. All right, so you are balancing with the baby. Can I just ask you one other question on that? Because we talk about it all the time, especially on the right. I too am a working mom and always have been. I've been a professional woman since I graduated from college or law school.

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But now there's I think a good thing which is like the restoration of valuing so-called traditional moms and that's great. The women who take care of their kids full-time, most of my best friends are doing exactly that. But it seems like in the right there's a bit of a shift toward like...

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See, I don't disagree with you on that. You're not going to get me to say it was a great thing the way Trump behaved.

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We can't chase our great conservative moms out of the workforce.

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Then we get rid of you. We get rid of Katie Britt. We get rid of Usha Vance.

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This is not the way... Amy Coney Barrett is not... That should not be the place the conservative movement lands. I agree. All right, so now you start as White House press secretary, and were you thrilled to get that invitation? Of course, yes.

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But you must have really wrestled with how you were going to meet the high bar set by Karine Jean-Pierre. Was that... Sorry. Sorry. Was that out loud? No, she was terrible.

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I disagree. I know. That's projection by you because I look at Joe Biden.

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And not even in like a wussy, sad little way. Like they must be exhausted. It's just nonstop.

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You're misstating my argument. You're misstating my argument. Hunter Biden just now on the laptop was brought up as evidence of how the election was not fair. He's not a reason, necessarily, to not vote for Joe Biden. The reason not to vote for Joe Biden is his policies. You're not woke. He's as woke, at least his policies are, as they come. The open border bill?

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How could anybody vote for somebody who keeps this border open with the number of rapes and the number of murders and the numbers of crimes going on with these immigrants?

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I just, I mean, you keep saying sort of I'm nuts because I don't see the difference between the elephant and the mouse. And I'm telling you, I identify them differently than you do. Hillary Clinton, of course, is the original election denier. I'm sure you voted for her in 16. Well, she's not an election denier. She absolutely was the OG election denier.

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And then spent the next four years saying he was illegitimate. He was an illegitimate president. She...

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Now she knows she has to because of what Trump has done.

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And then spent the next four years trying to convince us it was not legitimate. Just saying, look, it's not the same as Trump. What Trump did was far more severe. I'm not going to deny that, but don't try to tell me that Hillary Clinton wasn't an election denier and Jamie Raskin and a whole host of Democrats who are now in prominent positions on Capitol Hill.

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Doesn't make it great, what Trump did, but they don't have clean hands either. But you bypassed the immigration question. I'm not bypassing it.

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So how would you put this guy back in there for four more years to leave the doors open?

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Yes, it was better under Trump. Are you kidding me?

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Go look up the immigration rates, illegal immigration rates for 2020, for 19 to 20.

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That's what's so aggravating. We can accomplish it. We can stop what's happening at the southern border. We just won't under Joe Biden. And he keeps pretending like he has no agency on it, but he does have agency. There are a lot of executive orders he could do, just like Trump did. He won't. And you know why.

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It's because of the people who use the word latinx, who are trying to lecture him that it's not humane to enforce our borders.

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Don't you think that's what's happening to him on the trans issue, too, which is my big issue that I mentioned off the front?

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Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and today's Megyn Moments special. We're bringing you some memorable moments from the past few months, showing these guests, all of whom you will know, like you haven't seen them anywhere else. Some really special moments in here. Bill Maher and yours truly sparring over election denialism. J.D.

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Go to WeHeartNutrition.com and use the code Megan for 20% off. That's WeHeartNutrition.com, code Megan. They were in love with you after Hillbilly Elegy until, you know, because they thought you were like a Trump whisperer. You were the guy who could help them understand the evil man who had ascended to the presidency.

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But there was an interesting exchange that you had on Joy Reid's show back in the day. This is 16 discussing your book. We pulled it up just for kicks. Here it is.

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Pretty fascinating. By the way, you look so young. It's crazy what's happened to you in the past eight years.

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Well, yeah, I feel like Usha's done a good job with you, J.D. You're sharper dressing, and I like the beard. In any event.

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But I think you were making a good point there. And I think even Joy Reid could see it back then. Now, maybe not.

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Vance opening up about his wife and being raised by strong women. Charlemagne the God on the way he parents his daughters, Sean Ryan on God in his life and in mine. Plus Caroline Levitt on her marriage and balancing work, which is very busy for her with new motherhood. And the guys from the All In podcast and yours truly get deep into what works and what doesn't in this new media world.

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When Trump named you as his running mate, we revisited some of your bio. And one of the points I made that day was, this is a man whose life has been formed by strong women. That's very clear. That's a fact. It's not spin from mamaw, your grandma, to your mom, though it was a complicated relationship and remains so, I'm sure, to your sister, Lindsay, with whom you're very close, to Aunt Wee.

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And then you move on to Yale Law School and there's Amy Chua, our mutual friend who we love, who encouraged you to write the book and changed your life and saw in you this special story in person that ultimately would lead you to enter the national conversation.

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And then Usha, who you met at Yale Law School, who I know has been responsible in large part for teaching you how to love, how to be in relationship, how to conquer some of those childhood demons.

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So to me, it's a great success story of not just Davey Vance, but of American women, strong American women from mamaw with her guns and her love of the F-bomb to your own mom with her addiction problems, though she managed to make her imprint.

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Um, to the beautiful Lindsay, the sisterly love who beat herself up for not protecting you more ultimately to this more sophisticated, incredible dynamic wife, Usha, who's taking you on the next leg of the journey. So how do you see those women in like your arc with them, JD?

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and today's Do It Live special episode where we look back at the absolutely incredible year that is coming to a close.

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I wish Biden would reflect reflect on this debate performance and then announce his decision to withdraw from this race, throwing the choice of Democratic nominee to the convention. Someone like Gretchen Whitmer or Sherrod Brown or Secretary Raimondo could still jump in and beat Trump. And then there's Joy Reid over at MSNBC. Watch this.

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For those of us who have been holding our breath for the past several months, we can finally exhale in the wake of this presidential election, right? Work can finally be done on the major issues that this country's facing, and one of the most significant is our national debt. Look, the fact is our nation's broke, and that debt is a house of cards that cannot be quickly dismantled by anyone.

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There is breaking news out of Pennsylvania, Butler, Pennsylvania, to be specific, this evening, where former President Donald Trump appears to have been the victim of an attempted assassination. He was grazed by a bullet, according to local authorities. The Butler County District Attorney Richard Goldinger telling the Washington Post that Trump was grazed by gunfire, but is safe.

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We are receiving similar messages from the Secret Service that Trump is safe and that he's been removed from the scene, but he was bloodied and he was grazed by gunfire. The latest reporting out of the Washington Post, again, citing the local district attorney from Butler County, is that an audience member was killed and the shooter is dead as well.

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Another person said to be in serious condition, according to this prosecutor. Again, this is from the prosecutor to the Washington Post. To reiterate, Trump grazed by gunfire. An audience member was killed. The shooter is also dead, killed, we understand, by either Secret Service or by local law enforcement, who we believe unleashed fire.

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Once the president had the former president had been grazed another person in serious condition at this hour and that Donald Trump is receiving medical care at this hour. And I'm sure it will be very thorough, even though he looks like he's all right. They need to make absolutely sure that that's the case. We're going to play the video for you now as we have it. You will hear two shots at the top.

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And we believe that that is the shooter. We believe at this hour that what comes after is return gunfire by law enforcement. And in an incredible scene, you will see President Trump get back to his feet, fist up in the air, appearing to say the words, fight, and the crowd breaks out in chants. Watch.

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And there they exit with a former president into what appeared to be an SUV, though we don't see that final moment. An absolute showing of resilience and strength by Donald Trump, who under the absolute worst of circumstances managed to stop the Secret Service as they were escorting him out of a dangerous scene, saying to them, first, where are my shoes? And then saying, wait.

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putting his right fist in the air with blood covering his face because it's very clear he was hit. Again, the word they're using is grazed along the ear, the right ear. Blood on his face, pumping his fist in the air, and it seemed clear to me he mouthed the word, fight, fight. repeatedly, and the crowd broke out into chants of USA.

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For the listening audience now, the American flag being waved in the air above that fist. This is a close-up of the grazing along the upper part of his outer right ear. And you could hear the former president speaking. He sounded lucid and okay. You know, the comment, where's my shoes? You know, he wanted his shoes.

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Makes you wonder whether he was confused about what exactly had just happened to him as opposed to just getting the heck out of there as someone was clearly trying to take the president's life. We kick off our special coverage right now with Rich Lowry of National Review, editor of National Review. Rich, it's a shocking moment in American history in the context of this race.

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And in the context of the messaging, almost universal, unless you're a fan of Donald Trump or a fair cover of him like you are, about the messaging around him, the rhetoric around him. I'm not blaming this on rhetoric, but we would be derelict if we did not mention how it has been dialed up. And in particular, it has been dialed up as I think the left feels this election starting to slip away.

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That's not to say that caused this. We don't know who pulled the trigger. It's just there's been an atmosphere around this guy that has been dialed to an 11 for far too long. And many of us believed it was only a matter of time before someone acted on it. Stunning pictures here. This one is of President Trump on the ground.

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bloody with his hand nearby his face, trying to recover from what could have been an assassination. Your thoughts on what we're witnessing today.

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Rich, I don't know about you, but I feel infuriated right now. I am angry over what has been done to this man. You and I sat together in 2015, and National Review said, not Trump, not this guy. Here we are all these years later. I see him so differently. Yes, he's got character flaws, of course, but this is...

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This is the embodiment of strength in the face of an unbelievable onslaught, emotional, financial, when it comes to his freedom, and now his life, literally with a bullet having shot him in the head. His fist is in the air, and he's telling the crowd and all of us, Fight. Fight for your country. Fight for what we're all in this for. Don't let them shoot you down.

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There is a video, I don't know if we have it or can show it, of a shooter. Forgive me. We don't know that this is the shooter of what appears to be a man lying on a rooftop nearby. And the reports online are that that's the shooter and he's dead. He's motionless and he's lying down. We're going to I've spoken with somebody who is at the rally and we're going to have him call in.

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talking about the security, but it was tight, as it would be for any Secret Service event with a former president, never mind the leading contender for the GOP nomination, which, of course, takes place next week as a formal matter. And so this person, in order to have a gun, Rich, anywhere near shooting range of this president...

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I mean, it does make you wonder how he did it, whether he had help, how on earth anybody was within shooting range of this man, Donald Trump, from a rooftop. All of that is going to be investigated. But you've got to say kudos to local law enforcement or the Secret Service, whoever took this guy out, because it all happened in seconds.

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Already we're seeing some reaction come in from top Democrats who rarely criticize the president, suggesting he needs to have a serious look at this performance tonight and assess for himself whether he can go forward. That number will mount. There will be more and more. It was an unmitigated disaster. It was uncomfortable to watch.

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That's hometitlelock.com, promo code Megan, hometitlelock.com. President Joe Biden officially dropping out of the 2024 race for the White House this afternoon, ending his bid for reelection after a disastrous debate performance against Donald Trump, one that revealed his infirmity.

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Yes, mental, also physical, something he, his team, and a compliant, dishonest media have been denying and telling us not to believe for years now. Okay, that's how we got to this point. He lied, so did his vice president, so did his staff, and a compliant, complicit, lapdog media ran to help them in this cover-up.

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Only when we saw it with our own eyes what a mess he was that night of the debate did their game plan fall apart. And American citizens from coast to coast said, I can't vote for that. That man can't be president.

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Those of you who may have been focused on other things like the attempted assassination of our former president, Donald Trump, may have memory hold a bit what happened during that debate about a month ago. It was moments like these when President Biden could not follow his own train of thought. The man remains the commander in chief right now. He's not stepping down as president.

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He is infirm enough that he admits he can't do a second term. But he will hold on to the reins of power for some half a year still. Moments like this one where he could not follow his own train of thought that raised a five alarm fire for all normies coast to coast.

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And then there was probably the most eye-popping moments of the debate when President Biden turned a conversation about abortion into one about Lakin Riley, a nursing student who was murdered down in Georgia, a debate about illegal immigration, which has nothing to do whatsoever with abortion.

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I sat with my family and friends, and for the first 25 minutes of the debate, we kept grabbing each other's arms. It was so jarring. He was so distant, so frail, so hard to comprehend, so unsteady. You honestly didn't know whether he was going to make it through the answer. Never mind through the debate, much less through a second term.

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What a nightmare, just seeing it again. It was alarming. It was repeated. You can remember the moment in which he incredibly claimed that zero U.S. service members died during his administration.

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And we do so through clips from the times when we went live on YouTube and SiriusXM for major breaking news moments, so many this past year. Things got busy between the end of June and early November 2024, less than four months, where we flipped the switch and went live unexpectedly, that is, seven different times.

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It was a debacle. And not, as the left would put it thereafter, because he wasn't able to make his great points against Donald Trump. Because what we saw was that our sitting president and commander-in-chief, the man with the nuclear football, is non-compassmentis. He should be 25th Amendmented right out of office, but they wouldn't go that far.

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They understood what that would mean and probably were calculating that it would also mean the immediate elevation of Kamala Harris to the presidency, which was not popular amongst Democrats because they don't much like her. It's not just Republicans.

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After that debate that night, I came on this show in a special live broadcast and told you point blank his race for the White House, whether he knew it or not, was over. In my view, it is over for Joe Biden. His presidential campaign came to an end tonight, whether he knows it or not.

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There will be meetings tonight, first thing tomorrow, amidst Democratic Party leaders about how to get him off the ticket, how to change in somebody else. There have to be. Already we're seeing some reaction come in from top Democrats who rarely criticize the president, suggesting he needs to have a serious look at this performance tonight and assess for himself whether he can go forward.

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That number will mount. There will be more and more. It was an unmitigated disaster. And indeed, here we are about a month later, and he's done exactly that, withdrawn not from the presidency, but from his candidacy for a second term.

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Joining me now, Mark Halperin, founder of the Wide World of News Substack, longtime political journalist, and the man who's been breaking a lot of this about President Biden's plans this weekend to step down with considerable pushback and mocking even from the White House spokespeople saying he was dead wrong. And yet, Mark, what you reported late last week would happen today.

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Sunday is almost exactly what happened with the exception of I don't know. He did endorse Kamala in his letter saying he's stepping down. I think not in the letter, but in a tweet that followed it up. And so it seems like he's getting behind Kamala, though. Are we sure?

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Wait, stand by, Mark. Stand by, stand by, because you're really echoing. Is he echoing just for me, or is he echoing the broadcast, you guys? It's just for me. All right, so keep going, Mark. Never mind, it's just me. I can deal with it. I just don't want my audience to have to. Okay, sure.

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How did this come about? Because for weeks now, all we've heard from the White House is he's not going anywhere. Only if God Almighty comes down and tells him to drop out, will he go? He teetered a little bit on it this past week saying, well, if there were if there were medical condition and then there was the announcement of covid. But what what did it, Mark?

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The contrast between Joe Biden and Donald Trump has never been more stark. Trump came out calm, cool, collected in his own. He looked comfortable. Donald Trump Jr. tweeted out, I think actually the CNN format helped my dad. It helped him stay composed and presidential. I think he's right. The inability for him to interrupt Biden did wind up helping Trump.

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You tweeted out earlier today as follows as he was digging in his heels publicly. If an angry and defiant Joe Biden tries to hold on by running out the clock, Speaker Pelosi will have to raise the pain quotient to unimaginable levels. Veteran Pelosi watchers believe that is what she will do starting as early as today. What was behind that?

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For more info or to enroll, visit gcu.edu. Well, I watched it. Did you watch it? I'm disgusted. I'm disgusted. I'm ashamed of those moderators at ABC News. They did exactly what their bosses wanted them to do. The person who runs ABC News is a close personal friend of Kamala Harris. That is responsible for Kamala Harris and her husband meeting. And they did Dana Walden's bidding tonight.

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It was three against one on that debate stage this evening. Hi, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly, a special program tonight for you reacting to the debate. It was three against one. It's very easy to look like you know what you're doing when both moderators are entirely on your side.

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Trump did the best he could under the circumstances, but it really was like three fighters in the ring pummeling one opponent. And Trump tried to take them all on. He did fine. He did as best as he could. He was thrown a few times to the point where he was unnecessarily defensive. And he was getting angry. And so was I. Were you? This was a mistake to trust ABC News. with this debate.

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And he maintained his dignity for the most part. He was in control and strong for the entire time, unlike his opponent. I've never seen anything like that. I've never seen a politician at any level perform like Joe Biden performed tonight. And not only do I have questions about whether he will be his party's nominee, I have questions about whether he could possibly serve out his term.

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The Republicans must learn from this mistake. The same way the Democrats never, never agree to do anything with moderators they don't entirely trust. This should be the last time the Republicans ever do this. Because those two moderators tried to sink Donald Trump tonight. the numerous fact checks on what he said and none on what she said. None.

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I don't remember a single fact check of anything she said and she lied repeatedly. She just got away with it. In the moderator's eyes, that was Donald Trump's job to fact check her. That's correct. Except you didn't employ that same tactic when it came to Trump. And you accused him of lying even when it was your opinion that he lied.

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When Trump tried to say that his comment that he lost 2020 by a whisker was him being sarcastic, David Muir actually injected saying, I didn't hear sarcasm. Who gives a shit what you heard? Who died and left you political analyst in chief? You're supposed to be the objective news anchor of world news tonight. That's a comment you make to your significant other, David Muir. Not on the debates.

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It didn't sound like that to me. Shut up. That is inappropriate. It's not for you to make that call. Leave it up to Kamala Harris. Leave it up to people like me who will play the soundbite and let the audience decide. But you were out of line and they did it to him over and over and over again. And the worst, the worst piece of all of this is the obvious tactic by ABC News, which was as follows.

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Mr. Trump, you said something incredibly controversial and terrible. Let me remind you of what it was. Do you have any regrets or thoughts on how terrible you were? Trump answers. Vice President Harris, how bad is Trump? And then she'd answer. It happened over and over again. That was the format. Mr. Trump, you're a piece of shit. Kamala Harris, isn't he a shit? Thank you. It was incredible.

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And then anything Trump said, fact check, fact check, fact check, and their fact checks were full of shit. I'm swearing even more than normal right now because I'm mad. I'm angry. I'm angry at them, at ABC, at my industry that I want nothing to do with. And I've never been happier to be outside and be able to say how I truly feel.

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And yes, even with some colorful words, because that's what the situation calls for. They're trying to steal this election. They're openly working to sink him. I think it was so bad, their bias against him and toward her, that it's going to backfire. I actually think the American public is going to see through this, and there's probably going to be some empathy for Trump.

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No fair-minded person could think anything other than that they were in the tank for him, and it was three against one on that stage tonight. Joining me to discuss it, Emily Jaschinski, DC correspondent for UnHerd, and Rich Lowry, editor-in-chief of National Review. Did you know there's nearly $1 trillion of infrastructure and pandemic funds yet to be spent?

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He's the president of the United States right now. That man who couldn't spit out numbers or say trillion or billion correctly and lied at every answer because he seemed confused. How is that our leader? How are the Democrats going to nominate that man? And shame on you, Jill Biden. Jill Biden for allowing that.

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Agree. He took bait he shouldn't have taken. He was defending himself on the pandemic. He was on his heels instead of going on offense and pivoting off of the bad point for him onto something that was more offensive. That was a tactical error by him. But I do want to just spend a minute on this fact check you just mentioned. Here it is.

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Here's the moment we're referring to where Lindsay Davis helpfully fact check Trump on this abortion claim.

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Okay. That's not true. Maybe she can use the word kill. It's not like somebody's sticking a knife in the dead baby, in the alive baby as it's dying, Emily. But you and I both know that in places like Minnesota and elsewhere, if you're trying to abort a baby... in the ninth month or otherwise, and it's born instead of dying in the mother's womb, they will let that baby sit on the table and die.

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And Trump's claim, though Rich is right, he said at first West Virginia, later he corrected himself to Virginia. Their former governor, Ralph Northam, said this on camera, admitted to this. Here is the soundbite.

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I'll give you one other. Roger Severino, he's with the Heritage Foundation, tweeting out the following. Harris, and as it turns out, Lindsay Davis, is dead wrong. Some babies do survive abortions and can be saved, but are denied life-saving treatment, including under Tim Walz's watch. Harris even voted against the Born Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act,

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to defend, that would have defended the lives of these babies, their right to live once born, unconscionable. Trump didn't say any of that, okay, he tried. But the nerve of this moderator to inject herself into it without any of this. That's for you, Emily.

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I want answers from all these top Democrats who've been telling us how robust he is behind the scenes. That's who I want to hear from most. You lied. Did you not think this moment was going to come? That we'd never see this? Why did you agree to put him out on the debate stage when you knew what the truth was and that we would eventually find it out for ourselves? It's a dark day for this country.

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Yeah, and the same thing on Trump's attempt to claim that when he said on a podcast that he lost the 2020 election by a whisker. I said this on my show today, you guys. I said, if I were asking the questions tonight, I would ask him about that. And about the fact that he sat on a podcast last week, he lost by a whisker. And you should bring that up.

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And that's fine to bring that up, which they did. And I was actually surprised by Trump's answer. I was being sarcastic. And I'm going to be honest, I don't know that he was being sarcastic in that answer either. I didn't detect the sarcasm myself. That's not appropriate as a fact check, David Muir. The moderators were not much better. They were a little better than ABC News. But J.D.

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Vance put on a master class in how to handle biased moderators and a lying opponent. And it was a thing of beauty. It was beautiful. It was like every Republican or Republican voter or person who in this case is rooting for Trump knows exactly what I am feeling right now, which is just... Thank God.

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He's our leader. No one wants to see him embarrassed, but we're embarrassed ourselves tonight. That's our president. And he could very well win a second term if the Democrats continue their lawfare, if the media doesn't do its job, if the Democrats don't do the responsible thing here. I want to get to Rich and Emily with their thoughts. Guys, thank you for joining me. Rich, what'd you think?

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Just listening to a guy go out there and know how to raise the right points in response to the right questions, to not take the moderator's bullshit. It was really cleansing. It was just, you never see it. It's just so great to see. The moderators are gross.

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Margaret Brennan, not only do you desperately need some bronzer, you need to understand how to moderate a fair debate when you have half the country who's rooting for the other guy. She didn't even attempt to be fair. I mean, I'm going to utter words I never thought I would utter. I preferred Nora O'Donnell at you.

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This Margaret, but she used to have a reputation as being kind of like reasonable, like she flirted with the Catholic right, the Christian right. And she when you get on issues of faith, she could be kind of like normal. No, no. She's been in the soup too long. She's gone totally native over there at CBS News. You are terrible, madam. Terrible. The moderators were disgusting, but J.D.

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Vance was a vision. And Tim Walz really did indeed look like the bumbling knucklehead he said he was. There's so much to go over. We have a full lineup of guests for you tonight. We've got in-depth analysis on what we just witnessed and what it will mean with just a little over a month before Election Day. We're also monitoring the media reaction, which we'll bring to you.

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It's always fun to highlight. But first... Well, you heard my initial thoughts. Let me get to my guests. Rich Lowry is here. He's editor in chief of National Review. And Eliana Johnson is here as well, editor of the Washington Free Beacon and co-host of the Ink Stained Wretches podcast.

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This will be on people's Christmas stockings. Here's one thing I wanted to add. You know what was so masterful about what JD did tonight? He's been demonized by this press since he was named as the running mate. And he completely shattered that tonight. He was kind. He was likable. He complimented his beautiful wife. He brought up his kids. He kept giving Tim Walls points.

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Like, you know, I kind of agree with that. He said the thing about how if I don't win and he becomes the vice president... I will help him. He did such an effective job throughout the whole 90 minutes of showing America, I'm actually a nice guy.

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And those women, those female Republican voters who left the party who are now going to vote for Kamala Harris, if he was the problem, the childless cat ladies, which did not come up, I have to imagine they're looking at him just a little softer tonight, Eliana. But your thoughts on what we saw tonight?

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When he's in front of a friendly interviewer, like when he used to go on MSNBC before he got chosen, sure, that could be a friendly, fun exchange in which you'd do well. This is a totally different ballgame. And it is interesting now, that CNN article yesterday setting the expectations low now seems like a clarion call, like...

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Okay, so I think all three of us felt, I'm guessing, that the one moment... where he went after the moderator for his time. He was fact-checked by the non-fact-checkers, who were fact-checkers, but only, again, of J.D. Vance. They let Tim Walz get away with lie after lie. And, like, Jesus came down and told him, this is what Republican voters want to see. He wasn't having it.

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He insisted on having his time. Forgive me, but those bitches tried to cut his mic, and he...

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I am dripping contempt, dripping contempt out of my pores for CBS News in that month. That was such a dereliction on so many levels. Hello, you morons. A debate is unfolding. Alert. Note to anchor and CBS producers. The debate is happening right here. You let it fire up. Let them go. Eliana, we talked about this a million times before we prepared for our debate back in December.

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When you have fire on the stage, let it play out. This is a real issue. This is a huge issue. And it's voters number one or number two issue in virtually every poll. You didn't have a lot more to get to. There was a lot of inanity in that debate, including your next question, which was about climate change. And good for J.D. Vance for fighting on it.

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The show airs live every day, of course, on SiriusXM Triumph Channel, but I'm talking about extra episodes due to breaking news. Some were planned, some definitely were not planned. And it began with that first presidential debate between Donald Trump and Joe Biden that would be the beginning of the end for the incumbent president as the 2024 nominee.

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And Rich, for Tim Walz to try to say that the CB1 app has been in place since 1990, this is nothing new that Kamala Harris and Joe Biden did, is such a lie. That's what Vince was about to say. This has been one of the most controversial things you've done while in office. She's done while in office. And they cut his mic and moved on to I'm Megyn Kelly, host of The Megyn Kelly Show on Sirius XM.

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subscribe now get your first three months for free go to siriusxm.com mk show to subscribe and get three months free that's siriusxm.com mk show and get three months free offer details apply all right henry so it's been uh about two hours since we last spoke what is jumping out at you as the most relevant couple of storylines

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No, none of the other big Senate races has been called.

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Wow. Wow. Gosh, Henry, you know how to really get our attention with your projections. That's incredible to hear. Yeah, go ahead.

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Do you think these margins... These margins are going to hold that I just went through of 20% with black men and 54% with Latinos? Latino men.

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Wow. So what do you think will happen now? You're seeing what you're seeing. You've explained it, and it's 10.20 p.m. Eastern. What do you think is going to happen over the next two, three hours?

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I mean, I didn't think there was any question. Anybody who says Joe Biden won that debate is a dishonest person that you shouldn't be listening to. I do want to play that soundbite before I go to you, Emily, that Rich just referenced. I mean, we have multiple queued up showing Biden's utter confusion. He did not have the facts. He was confused over very basic facts and it was repeated.

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Wisconsin. By the way, to your point, NBC News projecting Donald Trump wins Iowa. So you are absolutely right about the seltzer poll not holding up. She had Kamala Harris winning Iowa by three points, Henry.

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One of the problems with the blue wall states is they apparently take a very long time to count. Now, I've heard the Michigan secretary of state say, oh, we sped it up. We're going to do better this time than we did last time, given the amount of mailing vote that we had the last time when we've shorn up our positions on how to do it.

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But is there any chance it's going to be too slow in Wisconsin, in Michigan, in Pennsylvania to have a call in the next five hours?

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Mm hmm. Henry, we're coming back to you. Please raise your hand as you get more data and have some more thoughts on it. So helpful. Thank you. Stand by. Joining me now, Victor Davis Hanson, senior fellow at the Hoover Institution. He's also the author of The End of Everything. Victor, great to see you. Wow. What a night. We're trying not to get ahead of our skis.

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But you heard Henry, very bullish, very sober, serious pollster, respected and has a great record saying he believes this race is Donald Trump's.

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Well, here's the other thing, to your point. If Trump pulls this off... The meltdown will be, yes, he's evil and he's been reelected and they're going to have to deal with all of that. But it's also the loss of their power and control. They will have to come to grips with like the 2016 thing was a fluke. They didn't take him seriously. He shocked the world. That's one thing.

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But they this time they pulled out all the stops from the lawfare to the nonstop actual media reporting that he's Hitler. Right. I mean, there's not another stop to pull. And if he manages to do it anyway, Victor.

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You mean not Jack Smith? You mean the Alvin Bragg DA in New York?

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Yeah, Jack Smith still got an open prosecution against him, and he's appealing the one that got thrown out. So he's got two avenues against Trump still potentially viable.

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Mm-hmm. I mean, I don't think that they will be able to do that. Hold on one second. Let's see. This is Pennsylvania. Hold on. We don't actually have a projection, but it's the New York Times reporting Pennsylvania right now. Trump plus three with 56 percent reporting in Lackawanna. It's Harris plus three. That's one of the counties. That's where Scranton is with 95 percent reporting.

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Wait a minute. What did what did Biden get? Biden won Lackawanna plus eight, eight and a half in 2020. She's at plus three right now in Biden's home county where Scranton is, Lackawanna. Again, it's only 56 percent reporting that could change. But she is, you know, what's happening now, Victor, amazingly, is we may be starting to realize they were better off with Biden.

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Good news for Trump. I mean, look, was it any accident that Larry Sabato's crystal ball had among the worst projections for Trump? Best for Kamala. I don't know Ann Seltzer in Iowa, but she she really got this one wrong. She I think she tried to change the race with that poll at the last minute trying to inject some. And I don't know whether it was conscious or subconscious to try to save.

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And all this all these older women are so obsessed with abortion and they're running to the polls. Well, it didn't happen. He just won. Iowa was one of the first states called.

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The New York Times not calling anything, but now moving Georgia from toss up. First, they moved it to lean Trump. And now they just moved Georgia to very likely Trump. And they just moved Michigan to lean Trump. Michigan. You heard Henry was saying Wisconsin looks like it's Trump's at this point. He didn't call it, but he's saying Wisconsin is very strong for Trump.

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This is Michigan and also North Carolina, likely Trump.

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Oh, my God. That's it. That's it, Emily. I mean, I just I have I'm looking at my own notes as this unfolded. And here's how they read. So rehearsed, so old, phlegm, needs subtitles. What is he saying? So fast, rehearsed, can barely understand, he's done. And so frail is my other, what was he saying? He beat Medicare, the trillions, the trillionaires, what he's done with COVID.

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I have to wonder, having just left Pittsburgh last night, where we had all these guys with the hard hats, men who work with their hands, cheering on their feet all night long for Donald Trump. That looks a lot like Michigan. Michigan's full of guys like that. Auto workers, as you point out, suffering from these EV mandates that Biden-Harris crammed down our throats.

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They want to eliminate these guys' industry. I do wonder whether, you know, just this ongoing problem with the Democrats, their messaging around what a real man is, what a real job is. What do we drive? What do we cook with? What will the government tell us?

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Or will men and women, for that matter, be able to make up their own minds and live peacefully without the government trying to micromanage us? I just wonder how much that strain of the election argument is driving these Michiganders and others in the Midwest to say no.

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Exactly. I'm going to stand you by one piece of good news for Kamala. The New York Times just moved Michigan back into toss up. So Michigan goes to lean Trump right back to toss up moments later. So they're not feeling as confident now that it may be getting redder as more and more raw vote comes in and they get it tallied up. Stand by, Victor. We're going to come back to you.

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Great to have you tonight. Love hearing from you. Back with me now here on set is Maureen Callahan. And also joining our discussion is Amala Epinobi, host of the Amala Epinobi podcast, and Link Loren, a former senior advisor to RFKJ's presidential campaign. Thanks to you, Amala and Link, for joining the conversation.

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Link, let me start with you, since you actually worked for RFKJ for a while, Bobby, as he's known. Your reaction to the returns we're seeing so far tonight?

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Oh, my gosh. The New York Times is having a schizophrenic moment. They just moved Michigan back to the lean Trump category. They can't make up their minds about Michigan. Nobody knows. But I mean, Michigan is not even supposed to be his strongest of the three states. They just moved the Wisconsin to lean Trump as well. That doesn't mean they're calling it for him.

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That's right. Grand Rapids, Michigan is where he. where he completed his campaign. That was his last rally. So now we've got two out of the three blue wall states leaning Trump. Oh my God, Amala. I mean, I don't want to say, but it's starting to feel like it's going to happen.

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And to Link's point about the hysterics on the left, and in particular at MSNBC, let's just take a little look-see into what's happening at MSNBC and how they're taking the news. Watch.

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A couple of weeks later, the shocking assassination attempt in Butler, Pennsylvania, which was less than an inch from a national tragedy. Then a week later, live again as Joe Biden dropped out and endorsed Kamala Harris on a Sunday afternoon. We had the Trump v. Harris debate a couple of months later and the J.D. Vance versus Tim Walz debate a few weeks after that.

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That was a critical moment. It was terrible. It was another moment where we were all grabbing each other in my house. Like what just happened? The question was about abortion. And he brought Lake and Riley into it without naming her. This nursing student in Georgia who was murdered by an illegal. Here is the moment sought for.

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Unrecoverable. He cannot go on that. This is that's it. Those were the moments. I don't care. He did improve slightly toward the ends of the 90 minutes. It's irrelevant. He remember at the time we saw him confused to critical pieces of his legislation. I don't remember the two that he got confused, but he was in the midst of trying to make a point about one.

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And he meandered over and started talking about the other. And we were all like, what did he just do? He juxtaposed the legislation and trying to make his point. It wasn't a one-off. He can't keep the facts straight in his own head about something as simple as abortion versus illegal immigration. He had his rehearsed lines.

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And like a robot, Emily, he got a glitch that wasn't fixable without the handlers.

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And then election night and the moment it became clear that Donald Trump would become the 47th president of the United States. So. As we close out 2024, let's relive some of the highlights of this year with the times we spent together trying to make sense of the news in real time. Enjoy, and we will see you Monday with the next episode in our True Crime Christmas series.

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I agree with every word you just said, Rich. I feel like we're in danger tonight. The country's now in danger. Yeah.

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We've never seen anything like it. Rick Perry lost his presidential race. He was trying to become the Republican nominee because he said there are three agencies we should eliminate and he couldn't remember one. That was enough to eliminate him as a candidate for president. This president can't understand the difference between abortion and illegal immigration. What does it even mean?

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He did beat Medicare. That those are just some examples. We have many more of what's leading to the panic at this moment within the Democratic Party. Forget the country. We should all be panicked. But the Democratic Party is at, I think, a 10 right now. This from I mentioned it in refer in passing Nick Kristof of The New York Times.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Welcome to the Megyn Kelly show. As we've been telling you, controversy has been swirling around the Pentagon all week. You've heard that everywhere with reports of, quote, total chaos in the building. NPR reporting the White House is looking for a new defense secretary, which Team Trump says is fake news.

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It's hard to do if you're not even in on what's happening behind closed doors in the secretary's office.

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Because those two are on the other side. They're more on Pete's side and you're on the deputy side where you're kind of the worker horse, the workhorse. Correct. So if you could get Dan and Darren talking to you, it was a meaningful end around Joe if you couldn't get Joe's attention.

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All right. So that was working and you were all in alignment with Pete, right? I mean, it was like, let's just settle that. Is there, was there a divide between you three guys and Pete in any way?

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So what happened? Let's just back up because. All right. So you're going along. It's not perfectly smooth and you've got some problems with Joe. And I can see from some of the comments he's made, for example, to journalist Ryan Grimm. He's not your fan either. Yeah. But then on April 2nd, you get a call, April 3rd, sorry, you get a call from a reporter at Politico named Lipman, right?

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Last name Lipman. And this is where things start to go sideways and get us to this point where everybody's fired. So this guy, this guy calls you and you didn't like this guy because two weeks earlier, he'd done a hit piece on you about your firing, your earlier firing at DOD that we just went through. Correct. So no one wants to see that written about in Politico.

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Politico never is. So not towards Republicans or Republican administration. So this guy calls you and what do you say? His phone's in your, his number's in your phone because you dealt with him on the record.

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It was all known at the Pentagon. Dealing with him when they were doing the hit piece on you was not forbidden. Like they knew, you know.

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But it wasn't a mystery to anybody at the Pentagon that Colin's getting hit by Politico and we're going to allow him to make one statement to them.

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Okay. So that happened. And then his number was in your phone because they connected you with him?

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An investigation into Joe Casper, the chief of staff for Pete Hexeth. Okay. And had you?

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That was the first you heard about any investigation into Pete? Correct. Sorry, into Joe, not Pete. Correct. Okay. It will later be alleged that you orchestrated that phone call from Dan Lipman.

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that you wanted an IG investigation of him or had started an IG investigation of him and somehow manipulated Dan Lipman at Politico to call you, now I'm doing the air quotes, whereas really you were the one who had first reached out because you wanted to see in Politico that there was an investigation into Joe.

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That is reflected in Ryan's report. It's clear Ryan thinks Joe's all over the board on suggesting how this went down.

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All right. So, and you did that because we have an email from you to Sean saying, Hey, I got this call from this guy. Yes. So you, but you maintain.

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And that you didn't, you didn't, did you speak with Dan Lippin on anything of substance?

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I don't know anything about an IG investigation. Okay. And the comm shop basically said don't have further communication with him.

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So this is early April. Have... Have any leak investigations happened yet? Have the leaks, I don't have it in my mind when the leak was on the Panama Canal, on the Elon briefing at the Pentagon. Had it started already? It had definitely started. The leaks had started, but did you know anything about an IG investigation into who the leakers were at that point?

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Yeah, I have just a little timeline here. On March 5th, Politico with a story on we stopped intelligence sharing with Ukraine. On March 13th, NBC News went with the big one, which was Trump White House has asked the military to develop options for the Panama Canal. March 20th, the New York Times with a story the Pentagon set up a briefing for Elon Musk on potential war with China.

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That one was said to have infuriated Trump, who saw that it would be inappropriate to brief Elon at the Pentagon on anything happening with China, given his business interests there. March 21, Politico ran a story entitled Trump sends second aircraft carrier to the Middle East and ramp up against the Houthis. And then we had the signal.

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debacle with Jeffrey Goldberg that hit the press and that dominated the media for quite some time. Then on March 28th, Wall Street Journal ran a story. Hegseth brought his wife to sensitive meetings with a foreign military official. And here we are on April 3rd, where acting Pentagon Inspector General Stephen Stebbins said he was opening an investigation into the Signalgate story.

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And shortly thereafter, April 15th, the three of you, April 15th and 16th, the three of you were placed on leave. So, okay. So when we're back at early April and you get this call from Politico, we'd had leaking, but we hadn't yet had an announcement of investigation into leaking.

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Sorry, just to clear that up. Joe Casper says you guys leaked or suggested that he was the subject of an IG investigation. We're not, he didn't say that you were the Panama leaker or that you were the Elon leaker.

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But Pete seems to have suggested it, right? Because Pete went on Fox and Friends. Forgive me for just calling him Pete every time.

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When you saw Pico on Fox and Friends and, you know, kind of made it clear what he thinks happened. Here's, I'm going to play just a little bit. So people, people know how he sounded because we were, he was talking about the terrible press that he's been hit with since you guys got fired. And here it is in SOT 34.

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So that was on Monday at the White House at the Easter egg roll. And then he doubled down and went further on Fox and Friends the next day, which I'll play. But are you disgruntled?

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Well, I mean, he did seem to suggest, you know, this could come out a different way. Like maybe they did it or maybe it was someone else. So there seems to be a window there on like who actually did the leaking. Here he is on Fox and Friends on Tuesday, Sat 32.

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We're going to hear that name a lot. So you two were sort of in parallel positions. He was for the top guy and you were for the number two guy. Correct. And how does Dan Caldwell fit in, the one who went on Tucker?

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So why would they have pinned it on you and your two buddies that we've been mentioning if you guys didn't do it?

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Well, I mean, can you help us understand that at all? Why would the secretary be angry at Darren for receiving a text from Politico?

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Is there any fairness to the accusation that you guys didn't like this guy, Joe Casper? This is an opportunity political sniffing around him. They're saying there might be this investigation, whether there is or isn't. This is our chance to bring it to Pete and be like, the guy's a problem.

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uh ig report and probably was some version of a weaponization of the ig but i don't know that to be certain and joe casper is denying that he uses drugs he volunteered to ryan grim to take a drug test for 45 days if ryan would pay for the tests but he said there's no way to i could fake a um because he passed the drug test he says uh he said that i don't i couldn't fake that nor do i have a life like this he said my life should be so exciting that i'm right doing drugs right that's everything that he said okay

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So we do believe that there was some sort of an IG. If it's not an official investigation, it was either ramping up or they were kicking the tires around Joe Casper. And it seems clear he was blaming you and also possibly Darren.

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Just to be clear, this is, you sent the email after Daniel Lipman of Politico emailed you or texted you. Right. And you sent an email to Sean Parnell, the comms guy. Correct. At the Pentagon to say, hey, this happened. You know. Yeah. Now what? Or let me know. Right. I didn't talk to him. Correct.

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And his theory, as espoused to Ryan Grimm, is that you mistakenly sent that to Sean, even though it is addressed to Sean. Right. And it's obviously sent to Sean and, And it lays out exactly what happened. So I don't totally understand the, you misfired it to Sean.

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And again, he's denying that he uses drugs and is telling Ryan Grimm that he passed a drug test and has not been fired. I mean, he got moved to a different position. But if he had tested positive for drugs, he would have been fired. I'm assuming he would have been fired. Yeah. Okay, so we're not sure. Maybe he's an erratic guy without drugs. That's possible too.

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But in any event, what you're saying is you feel he blamed you for whatever the IG was doing around him and blamed Darren and saw that Dan Caldwell was CC'd on these emails and might have had something to do with it and may not have had a great relationship with those other two either from the start.

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Okay. So, but the, the, where it gets weird is at some point in this timeframe, they handed the investigation over to Tim Parlatori, right? Pete's lawyer.

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Okay, but if it's true, what we read in the paper is that Tim Parlatori took over the investigation. This is Pete's longtime personal lawyer and also a Pentagon employee and also one of the members of the private Pete Signal, the second Signalgate 2, the second Signal.

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Yeah, the reports are that he was in it, his brother was in it, his wife was in it, and some group of others. But in any event, so if he took it over, that's somebody who doesn't work for Joe Casper, who works for Pete. I mean, now he works for the Pentagon, but I mean, his loyalties are to the secretary. And my understanding is that's the person who made the call.

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Okay. My understanding is Joe was moved to this special governmental status, and he's not overseeing Tim.

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Okay. Well, my understanding is that he didn't run that investigation to the end and that parliamentary took it over. And if that's the case, he must have seen something that disturbed him, right? About you three guys, one or all.

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You know, I said this on the air and I've absolutely nothing against Dan Caldwell. He seems like a great guy. Actually, everybody I've talked to about him says he is. But I did think it was a little weird just between us. You know, I thought it was strange that he told Tucker he hadn't been pollied and he no one looked at his cell phone. But I said this on my show.

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There are a lot of other ways you can catch a leaker. You know, there are so many other electronic trails that you can check, especially in a building like the Pentagon. So how are we ruling out that Dan is a leaker?

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OK. And, you know, you were brought into the Trump administration. You hadn't been at DOD until Trump won.

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But three of Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth's top aides, Dan Caldwell, Colin Carroll and Darren Selnick, did lose their jobs last week. reportedly as the result of a leak investigation. They were looking into who's been leaking to the media. These three got offered up as the sacrificial lambs. Now, they deny that they leaked, and they say that they still support Pete Hegseth.

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Dan said he hadn't given over his phone. He hadn't given over, he hadn't been asked to give his phone and he hadn't been polygraphed. Do you know whether Dan received a visit from any investigators or from the Pentagon asking for electronics back?

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I mean, if he's got Pentagon Electronics and didn't willingly give them, they'd have to step it up and get some sort of subpoena or search warrant.

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So have you talked to him at all about like how many times they've come and whether he's voluntarily given over all electronics and so on?

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I mean, those would be interesting questions to have answered because, you know, if there's any sort of a reluctance to give over... this one device, right? This is how investigations go down, right?

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Is there anything, is there any device that you have in your possession that you would not give if they want it?

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I mean, that's uncomfortable, right? No one wants anybody looking through their cell phone. Yeah, I agree. Even if you didn't leak anything. Correct. It's just, you know, do you worry that if you did that, they'd be like nitpicking now looking for- No, I don't think so. Justifications after the fact?

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Have you ever heard of something like this where somebody gets fired without getting polygraphed? Like for something as serious as leaking top secret documents?

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I'm pretty sure they've done enough of these. There was a report in NBC News earlier this week that Dan Caldwell and Darren Selnick, the other two, had already been exonerated in this investigation. Did you read that?

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Do you think there's any chance they're working together and you're going to be left the fall guy?

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So you haven't, since you got fired, have the three of you been working together on dealing with the media?

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That helps. Yeah, it does. That helps a lot. I mean, I've told a lot of people, like, don't do it if you're guilty. It's really not in your best interest. Yeah. When I'm advising, you know, friends who get asked for interviews and so on. The leaks against Pete that post-date these triple firings Have been numerous.

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Well, the leak to the New York Times of the second signal chat came post-firing. And my understanding is Darren and Dan were both on that chain.

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We haven't talked about him, but he's, he worked over in the comp shop too. He's the one we mentioned in the passing, but he says he left of his own volition and Pete said they fired him. So.

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So it's just coincidental that he went at the same time you guys went? Yeah, it's coincidental. Very strange. So do you know if he was on that private signal chain?

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Which could lead to a lot of frustration on his part. Do you, do you think he's okay? You know, do you think Pete is okay?

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That's so unfortunate. That whole Signalgate thing was, I mean, I just don't even think it was Pete's fault. It was like, obviously Mike Walls' office committed a colossal error. Yeah. And those on the chat, I guess technically should have known they shouldn't have been having this discussion on Signal, but it seems to me like...

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They use Signal, and the previous administration had Signal on the computers, and it was like no one was really seeing this as an insecure channel, even though- Yeah, I'll be honest with you.

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But it's so unfortunate because it was a successful mission, you know, something to feel proud of. And all the press around it has been about this signal gate thing. And so much of it on Pete's shoulders, even though he's not the one who added, who created the chat or who added. I agree. Jeffrey Goldberg.

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So I feel for him and I'm sad to hear it's become such a distraction for him because it'd be great if he could focus on this. I know I can hear that you feel the same. If he could just focus on the mission that he's trying to enact.

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Yeah. And also, you know, we talked about I gave you the timeline, the audience, the timeline of all the leaks that had preceded that signal thing. So he's already dealing with somebody internally or maybe multiple somebodies. If you look at the agenda, you know, the suspected agenda behind these leaks, who's trying to hurt him?

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Yeah, because just to be clear, it's not all Pete loyalists surrounding him. And in these meetings, I mean, there will be some people who maybe weren't thrilled with the choice. There's a lot of people in the Republican Party who are more neocon or who just thought he was inexperienced and didn't belong in this role. Right. I mean, you tell me. But within the Pentagon, it's not all loyalists.

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Now that he's gone, do you feel like it'll be a more functional place? Sort of gone?

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Live and learn. Well, no one's alleging that you needed to get fired this time because you were abrasive towards staff, et cetera. You've been accused of something far more serious, as you know. Okay, so you get... back into the Pentagon and you're working as the chief of staff for Pete's right-hand man, his deputy, and you're dealing with all this cast of characters that I mentioned.

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It's like, what was he supposed to do? If people are leaking top secret information, like you have to do leak investigations and you have to fire people. Now, whether he fired the right three people.

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Well, we'll reach out to them and give them the chance to respond to all this. But you mentioned that you hired a lawyer, a defamation lawyer.

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But don't tell me what your lawyers are telling you. That's between you and them. But just tell me what's in your head.

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If you have reporters who are going to go on the record with who their source is on something like that, like giving it up, that's extraordinary.

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Wow. Yeah. What's the bottom line here? Is the Pentagon salvageable in its current form? Is Pete going to make it and should he?

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You never know. Could work out. I mean, I think Pete is a great guy. I think he's capable of admitting when he's wrong. I realize he's in a different post now and it's a very important one and there may be many other considerations, but, um, I don't know. I feel like if you get exonerated, maybe you could go back. Maybe, maybe they could turn the page on both sides. Yeah.

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And let's just set the stage on... ideology. I listened to Dan Caldwell on Tucker. He's, I think, very much aligned with Tucker's view of foreign policy, more dovish, less hawkish, very anti-neocon, both having come to that organically over the years. But Dan actually fought as a soldier and so has a personally very committed view towards it. And you're in that camp yourself or no?

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Yeah. Thank you for trusting me with the story. Yeah, definitely. After our interview with Colin, we reached out both to Joe Casper, whose name you heard quite a few times there, and to Tim Parlatori. And Mr. Parlatori declined to give us a statement, but Joe Casper did. And it reads as follows.

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The idea there was dysfunction is an argument of convenience, which in hindsight is being weaponized by a small group who are rallying against the president and the secretary in their own interests.

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In 90 days, we reestablished Gitmo, transferred migrants on Gray Tails, which we think is a reference to military aircraft, added 10,000 troops on the border, protected freedom of navigation against Houthi threats, redesigned installations, restored warrior ethos, and put recruitment and retention back on track. That's not dysfunction. That's success.

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Colin wasn't part of any of it, but I wish him all the best. He's a smart guy with unlimited potential. We've extended an offer to both men to come on and we will let you know if they do. Awaiting your thoughts as well. You know how to reach me. It's Megan at megankelly.com. Would love to know what you think of this whole story. Until next time. See you soon.

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You heard from Dan Caldwell on the Tucker Carlson podcast on Monday. And today, one of the remaining two who was fired, Colin Carroll, is here with me. He served as chief of staff to Deputy Defense Secretary Steven Feinberg, at least until last Friday. You've heard about tariffs recently, plus inflation, supply chain disruptions. It's a lot. But there is a silver lining that most people missed.

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You know that Dan alleged that he's not a leaker. He leaked nothing and that it's possible he was fired for his ideology, in particular, his position that we should not be getting into a war with Iran. What do you think of that?

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You and I are talking on Friday. It's been a week since you're firing. Right. He interviewed with Tucker. It came out, I think, Monday morning.

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Joe Casper, just for the record, again, is the chief of staff to Pete Hegseth or was up until a couple of days ago. And, um, has been moved out of that position in this same time period and has been sort of, I don't know if we'd call it a demotion, but he was a staffer and has been changed into a special government employee, which is different and less scrutinized position.

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Why would they move somebody who's a political appointee over to the position of special government employee?

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Okay. All right. So let's go back now and set that up. So you're running along. Things are going, I guess, okay. But before this whole dust-up started- which really started the beginning of April. I think like you get this phone call from this political reporter, but prior to that April 2nd phone call, how, how was the office operating?

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Because you need to be in communication with your counterpart over in the secretary's office. And that man was not receptive to dealing with you very well.

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And we have to encounter this at every turn. And then we see that same camel's nose thing. Under the tent, you give them a little, and then they start exploiting it and taking it too far. May I remind you of a little thing called USAID? Right? There's a poll. I actually, you guys are gonna talk to Caroline Leavitt in a bit.

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I interviewed her for my show today, and we were talking about the CNN poll. It shows Trump's approval numbers. They fell a little, a couple points, since he took office, because he's doing things that the left may or may not like. And his numbers were kind of down on the closure of USAID. Okay, well, let's look at the crosstab. How did they ask it?

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It was like, do you support Trump's decision to close the agency that is helping those suffering abroad in humanitarian crises? Right? Like, would you like the children to die as a result of what Trump did? Yes or no? It doesn't say, do you support helping African people prevent HIV AIDS? Virtually every American would say, yes, we can spend some money on that. Yes, we do.

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And also, then we will take that money and we will divert it for trans operas in Colombia. Who the hell said yes to that? We literally spent $70,000 on DEI dance in Ireland. They already have Riverdance. I stole that from the Ruthless fellas. But it's ridiculous. It's too much. It's overreach.

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And then, inevitably, when you call them out on the nonsense, when you send Elon in there with Doge and the Doge tech guys and they start kicking the tires, they play the victim. Just like Blake Lively. How dare you? I am subjected to all these stories, right?

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You're subjected to these stories because you did something wrong and that's the way the media and the world works and because you deserve it. So we're tired of their games. The games are outdated, the tactics are outdated. They're old and they're tired. And speaking of the Associated Press. The media. The media's days of pretending they are holier than thou are over.

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President Trump kicked them out, not of the White House, not of the White House breast-breathing room, but kicked them out of the Oval and out of the Air Force One seat they had because they refused to call it Gulf of America. Now this is interesting because AP is an American company. They say we have to do it because we report in international countries.

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The people of Ghana are gonna be upset if you start reporting on it. Folks in Somalia are really gonna get upset. You're an American company. You're incorporated here. You're headquartered in New York. This is a stick in the eye of the president and nothing more. It's obvious. Trump knows it and so do we. And the thing about the AP is they love word changes. Name changes. They live for this crap.

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Just as soon as they were told they have to call girls who transition to boys, boys, they did it. Boys who transition to girls, they did it. They went with the pronouns, the whole thing. You can't even read an AP story about some trans thing without leaving utterly confused. Now there's no more somebody born male or somebody born female.

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It's assigned male at birth, assigned female at birth, like it was a sin committed by the doctor and it still is very ambiguous. They love that name change. They did it right away. Illegal immigrants, we don't have those anymore if you read the AP. They got rid of that term. It's too offensive. Now you have to say undocumented immigrant. What does that mean?

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So thank you, God. I appreciate that. It's important to remember who you are and who you definitely are not. But it was kind of a compliment either way. Anyway, speaking of big names, you definitely will know. Have you heard about what's happening with the Blake Lively, Justin Baldoni case? I'm just going to walk because I actually held that. Can you hear me OK like this? OK. OK.

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An illegal immigrant makes sense to everybody. Now you have undocumented. They got rid of the term crisis at the southern border when Joe Biden was president. could no longer say crisis. As soon as the numbers hit 100,000 a month, the word crisis kept appearing. Not in the AP, we don't do that. That's not okay.

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Even though Jay Johnson, Obama's Homeland Security Secretary said, it's a crisis if you have 30,000 in a month. This time under Biden, it was 100,000. AP gets rid of the word crisis and didn't bring it back even when we had 300,000 crossing a month. Forgot that word. They won't say terrorist when they're talking about Islamic terrorists.

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All of these word changes they're totally in favor of, but Gulf of America is a bridge too far. So look, I'll leave you with this. Blake Lively had a point on one thing. Her time as the Hollywood it girl. The days of the left bullying and controlling us without much pushback. The days of the media pretending to be objective and independent and demanding to be left be owned.

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Are you obsessed with this case? All right, there are millions of people who are obsessed with this case. I'm going to give you a little background on it, and then you will be obsessed with it. And I'll tell you, there's a reason why conservatives in particular are following this so closely. It makes sense to me. All right, so you know who Blake Lively is, right? Most people know her.

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Yeah, see, the people who are booing, they know. Then there's this guy Justin Baldoni who's not as well known. See, they've been following the story. So he optioned this book called It Ends With Us, and it's about domestic violence. And he managed to get Blake Lively to star in his movie across from him. He played the abusive guy and she played the woman.

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And this is the thrill of a lifetime for this guy. He had done another TV project, but nobody knows who he is. So he gets Blake Lively. She's married to Ryan Reynolds. These are Hollywood A-listers. He's gonna put him on the map. And she agrees to be his female co-star. Great, they're off to the races. Well, shortly into production,

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Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome journalist and host of The Megyn Kelly Show, Megyn Kelly.

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Blake Lively is very dissatisfied with virtually everything around her and decides to allege that Justin Baldoni, this, I mean, forgive me, very effeminate, evolved, modern feminist man bun kind of guy. is like this virulent sexual harasser who can't stop harassing one of the biggest stars in Hollywood in front of everybody on the set. I've got questions.

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I'm not sure why he would do that, whether he'd have the guts to do that, or whether the man bun is the most likely harasser in general. But you never know. Sometimes the ones who kind of bend over backward to be as woke as possible are the most, so okay, I'm open-minded about it. This is going someplace. Would you trust me? I'll get us there.

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So she says he's been harassing her and they bring in some team and he says, whatever you want, I will do it or not do it. You tell me. So they go forward. Well, we move forward in the story and she's got to go do PR for the film. And she goes out in the summer, this past summer, and she had about two minutes of bad PR.

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The problem for Blake Lively, in my opinion, is that she does not improve upon acquaintance. And so the more time we got to spend with Blake Lively, the less we liked her, the more her promotional efforts for a film about domestic violence felt off. She was full of giggles and laughter and wanted to promote her liquor brand. Like, nothing says domestic violence like a bottle of tequila. What?

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So it felt weird and she started to get hit by some of the media for being insensitive. Then this one reporter re-upped a video in which she interviewed a then pregnant Blake, a then eight-month pregnant Blake, and kicked off the interview as you would do as a journalist if there's something obviously different about somebody physically by saying, oh, you have such a cute baby bump.

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Appreciate it, guys. Gosh, you guys have been out there all day. This is amazing. I have to tell you, especially now that I do my own show in my own studio, I don't get out enough. And it's wonderful to actually get out there and see the people and actually glad hand with people who watch the show.

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And Blake was taken aback, even though it was obvious, and said, oh, so do you. The reporter was not pregnant. It was a nasty jibe at her for no reason. So normal people at home who don't care about this woman at all are looking at her like, I don't like her. She seems like a bully. She seems like somebody who punches down to somebody who's only trying to do something nice for her.

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So negative press swirled around her during this whole, like a month, right? Later she would describe this as though it was the pile on against Trump. Honestly, it's like most of us, especially in Republican politics or the news, this is called Tuesday for us. It's like, grow up. You're in the public eye. You've got probably hundreds of millions thanks to your husband. Just shut up.

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No one cares that you've got a couple of bad articles about you in the Daily Mail. She winds up suing Justin Baldoni. She files a complaint with the Human Rights Commission out in California saying he sexually harassed me and then he retaliated me by pushing all this bad press about me. He was behind it because I found his agent, his PR agent's nasty text saying, we can ruin her.

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If we have to ruin her, we will. And those texts do exist. And Blake Lively went to the New York Times and the New York Times wrote the sympathetic, poor Blake Lively story. Oh, we were all wrong about her and her weird PR. She's actually a good person and a Me Too victim. And then Justin Baldoni did something very smart.

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He hired the lawyer who represented me in my fight with NBC News, which ended well. His name is Brian Friedman, and he's a legal genius. Highly recommend if you ever, God forbid. And Brian Friedman knows how to fight back against a bully. Trust me. And he started telling everybody Justin Baldoni's side.

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He told us that Justin Baldoni denied those claims of sexual harassment and only tried to appease Blake Lively because she was such a high maintenance diva bully brat, he had to bend over backwards just to get her to shut up and complete the film.

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He told us that Justin Baldoni claims she tried to take over his movie because she has a history of saying, okay, I'll be the star, but what I secretly want to do is direct it and edit it and produce it. I want all the roles for me and only me. I want full control because I am a controlling bully.

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that Justin Baldoni ultimately, by the time they got to the premiere, was mandated by Blake Lively to spend the night in the basement away from his co-stars and didn't even get to see the final cut of his own movie because Blake Lively insisted that she be the one to approve it until he watched it on the screen with his editors, who also hadn't seen it because her editors finished it up.

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That's the situation he says he was in. So it's a real he said, she said. Who's telling the truth? Is he some creep harasser who took a shot at somebody like Blake, jeopardizing his movie and his future career? Or is she just extremely high maintenance and someone who plays the victim when she doesn't get her way?

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Yes, it can be like a little heady because you're like people there at an event like this, they come over, they say the nicest things. And you can almost be in danger of getting a little too drunk on your own wine. You know, like, wow. Oh, God, I think you meant J.D. Vance. I think that's what you're J.D. He's he's 48. Um, so yeah, 49. So you can start to get a little drunk on your own wine.

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Well, I've got my opinion, and I think you can guess what it is based on our little discussion here. The other thing is Brian Friedman produced text messages between Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni. So we don't have to take his side's word for it. And what they showed is that Blake Lively has got a bit of a God complex.

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She's texting Justin Baldoni about how she sees herself as Khaleesi from Game of Thrones, Mother of Dragons. Did you watch that? You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. So Khaleesi is stunningly beautiful. She's this effervescent, strong character with temerity and resilience. And just, she's fierce. She's literally the mother of dragons in Game of Thrones. That's her. That's me. That's Blake.

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And she says, and I've got the greatest dragons on earth, Ryan Reynolds and my best friend, who is Taylor Swift, though she's not named or they blacked it out. So she's telling him, I'm mother of dragons, and my dragons will cut a bitch. And my dragons are named Ryan Reynolds and Blake Lively. So the message is pretty clear. Like, okay, she's a powerful person with powerful friends.

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And she's got a bit of a God complex. All right, now we get into litigation. She files her human rights campaign. The movie comes out. It does all right. He's in the basement for the premiere. And he hires Brian Freeman and countersues her and the New York Times for $400 million, claiming this is a massive defamation. Okay? Drags Ryan Reynolds into it as well. And now we're off to the races.

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And where do things stand now as a result of all this? As a result of Blake Lively apparently wanting control of a movie she did not control, wanting to get the camel's nose under the tent as an actress and then take over the entire production, mission creep on steroids, and was shocked, shocked when Justin Baldoni did not want her to do those extra things.

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And then when it all blows up, lawsuits and cross lawsuits. And Blake Lively, who I believe thought she would be received or perceived as an Alyssa Milano or Ashley Judd Me Too victim, is instead looking a lot more like Amber Heard. How did that work out? Bad move. And honestly, to me, the lesson is, A, be a good person.

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But B, if you're a Hollywood star or any sort of a public figure, would you just please take your licks in the press and shut up about it? People have real problems. They don't give two craps that you had a couple of negative articles written about you in the Daily Mail.

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And in her complaint, the thing she's bitching about is that this terrible PR campaign that was opened up against her hurt sales of her liquor brand and her hair care products. Oh, my God. While this is going on, inflation is like at 9%. Get a grip. Okay. So it was a terrible idea. They shouldn't have done any of this.

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But I think the reason that conservatives are so interested in this is a couple of fold. Number one, you seem to be watching the unwrapping of a public figure, like the unspooling. you know you've caught someone in what you believe is a lie. That's how I feel. And it's amazing to see it told and to kind of gone down the lane like, okay, maybe, oh, here we go. Oh, wow.

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Oh, wow, because Baldoni's released these text messages. She says, he inappropriately smelled my neck when we were doing a scene. Then you see the scene. They're dancing, they're caressing, they're making out. It's like, but the neck thing was too much when he smelled it? Like, all right. They went into my trailer when I was breastfeeding my baby. You're like, that's disgusting.

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What's wrong with these people? Then you see his text message where she says, come on over to my trailer. I'm breastfeeding baby, but it's fine. Yeah, she says his weird producing partner showed me porn. I'm like, these people are freaks.

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Then you see what he actually says he showed her, the producing partner, which was she was filming a birth scene in the movie and it was a still shot of a water birth his wife had at home. You can't see anything X-rated. It's a PG photo. You can't see anything at all. It's like artistic. It made me wish I had a water birth. All right, so you wind up kind of feeling a little bitter.

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And this is where we come in. Because everyone in this room, because you're here, I know this about you, you've been gaslit to high heaven every time you've picked up a newspaper in the United States. Every time you've turned on CNN. You've been lied to. You've been bullied or seen others with lesser power bullied by the media and the leftist Democrats.

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However, the good thing is God is always there to balance things out for you. God or my mom, uh, and bring it down a peg when you need it. And I, this reminds me of the inauguration just last month. I went with so many great people who were, they were loving Trump. They were loving the Just the rebirth of our nation. And this one guy came over to me and he was so excited to see me.

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You have been the victim of overbearing and controlling leftists who think they are the final arbiters of what's best for you and your life. And it's wonderful to see someone fighting back. Right? She's become like an avatar for leftist overreach in a different, special way. I really believe this is why so many people on the right are kind of into this story. Just kind of want to see how it ends.

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Will it end as it ended for us on November 5th? Because we were pretty happy with how that went. Right? Or is it going to be something else? I mean, only time will tell. But it's bringing up like room to explore the past 10 years that we've all been through and how, you know, Trump put a period at the end of it, we hope, or at least the beginnings of the end by, by winning.

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So the bully thing, what was one of the biggest stories this past year? Daniel Penny, right? You guys know who that is. Daniel Penny stood up for others on the New York city subway when there was a crazed man who was out of his mind on drugs, threatening to kill people.

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and got him in a chokehold, and the man ultimately later passed, and he got charged by that insane crank, Alvin Bragg, and had to defend himself against criminal charges. Yes, boo, he deserves it. So Daniel Penny got bullied by Alvin Bragg and the media, which did not stand up for him either. There was Nick Sandman. Remember him? Look, I love how you guys know these names. You're my people. Yeah.

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Nick Sandman goes out there in front of the Supreme Court to stand up for life, and CNN portrays him as this villain, as this smirking, crappy, arrogant villain. Look at him, and he's sneering at a Native American who's just there minding his own business. Totally the opposite. Totally the opposite.

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Nick Sandman was standing there respectfully while he was being antagonized by the Native American who was dancing aggressively in his face and getting up on him and mocking him. That's why CNN had to pay him in a defamation case. That was settled. Kyle Rittenhouse. Kyle Rittenhouse tried to do what the Biden administration would not and go to Wisconsin and actually protect the neighboring town.

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It did not go well. He wound up shooting three guys. He was acquitted on all charges ultimately. But before we knew much at all about that case, Joe Biden got out there as he was running for president. This happened prior to Biden taking over. as he was running for president and called Kyle Rittenhouse a white supremacist. There was zero evidence of this. The kid was 18 years old.

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He's got the possible next, at that point, possible, ultimately, yes, president of the United States telling everyone he's a white supremacist, something for which he never apologized, Joe Biden. There was no evidence of that, none. So the left likes to bully people who are weak. He's a kid. Now he's on trial for triple homicide in one case. And...

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And he was like, oh my God, I can't believe it's you. Can I please have a picture with you? I'm like, oh, of course, I'd be happy to. Took a selfie. He's like, I'm sending this to my mom. She's never gonna believe this. I'm like, oh, I think I'm a pretty big deal. I'm like really making an impression on this man. And he walks away and we hear him say, I can't believe I just met Carrie Underwood.

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You think it's a great time to pile on him publicly as the possible next president? There's something wrong with that. Something's off about a guy in a party that does it and supports it. And so the bully nature of the left has been on full display, as has its controlling nature. They want to tell us what we can eat. They want to tell us what we can drink.

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They want to tell us how fast the water can come out of our showers, what we can drive, what we can put in the tank, what we can turn on our stove with. I mean, it's over the top. What we can think, what we can feel, where we can pray, what we have to put in our arms, what we have to put in our children's arms, our baby's arms. It's a lot. They seem to be really drunk on their power.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and today's MK Media bonus episode. We have three shows now launched as part of our MK Media network all within the past four weeks. And thank you for making them all a huge success. I know that's our audience.

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I appreciate it. I'm sure. Yeah. So indignantly cuts off the interview. She's not a doctor. Jake's not a doctor. I'm not a doctor. But I talked to a lot of doctors in 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024. And many of them said, look, I don't usually diagnose people from afar, but obviously there's mental and cognitive decline.

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He criticized her and cut her off and I think was a little rude to her. With indignity saying, how dare you say that you're in a position to say the guy has mental decline? Well, guess what? Now that Jay Capra has written a book about this, he says right in the publicity material for the for the book.

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That there was this mental decline that was so apparent and that there was this big cover up in the White House. Now, I give them credit for pointing out the cover up in the White House because that was not aggressively covered because anytime anyone tried to do it, they were threatened and bullied and spun in public. And most reporters just gave up.

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But you cannot be part of restoring the credibility of the media to cover Donald Trump aggressively if your posture is, oh, we did nothing wrong. We aggressively covered it. Or worse, in some ways, we didn't even see it. How could we have seen it? We weren't in these private meetings. The cover-up was so intense. I'll say again, Joe Biden's decline was not uniform.

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There were days when he was just fine. So Republicans who say he was 100% gone and weakened at Bernie's and someone else was running the government, that's not true. But his decline was pronounced. There's a reason why he had a light schedule. He didn't talk to reporters.

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And there's a reason why all these things that happened in public that we all saw were ignored by the press because they didn't want to help Donald Trump win. They didn't want to be blamed if he won again. It's it's one of the most embarrassing things I've seen. So this morning I'm reading Politico, their daily tip sheet, the Politico playbook. And this is what they write.

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And it's amazing to me that this is still the way the press, which defended and protected Joe Biden, is framing things. For what it's worth, Biden has continued to deny any suggestion that he experienced cognitive decline while in office. They are wrong, the former president said in an interview last week on The View. There is nothing to sustain that.

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I mean, I get letting Joe Biden have his say, but for what it's worth, Joe Biden has continued to deny any suggestion. He's experienced cognitive decline. I mean, how could they write that? How could they how could they credit that? It makes no sense. But it's the mindset that. Most every reporter, not Alex Thompson, but his co-author.

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And again, almost every reporter that's now being asked to with the authority and the responsibility of covering Donald Trump to be to be responsible for that. It's the same line. So Jake Tapper, his book coming out in a week. Here he is this morning on CNN creating a whole new set of realities. Watch this.

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All right. Again, amazing. True. Here's something true that he said that Jake Tapper said on CNN this morning. True that there was a cover up that senior Biden officials worked very hard to cover up as much as they could. His decline, including amongst other people in the government and in the campaign. That's true. Here's two things that are not true.

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OK, and this is where the credibility is just so important. that people be honest. I shouldn't be the only one in the media being honest about this. It's bizarre, okay? One thing that's not true is that you needed, that the coverup was so good that no one could see this, that we couldn't possibly have gotten to the bottom of this during the election. Again, it makes me mental. It was clear.

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I saw it with my own eyes in 2017 at a public event with hundreds of people. You saw it almost every day, not every day, but almost every day, both in what he did and the fact that he had such a limited schedule.

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So it is not true that it's only after the election that Jake Tapper could have gotten to the bottom of this and the rest of the Washington press corps could have gotten to the bottom of it. The other thing that's not true is that the press is blameless because they were more than just stymied in the telling of Jake Tapper. They were stymied from getting to the truth. No, they weren't.

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They were part of the conspiracy and the cover-up. They allowed themselves to believe the ridiculous spin on TV in public. And privately, they allowed themselves to be browbeat. I know reporters. Again, I said before, I don't know that Jake Papper was browbeat by Biden folks, but I know reporters who were. They were told you will lose access.

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The New York Post lost access because they covered the Hunter Biden story. Reporters who covered any story the Biden people didn't like were denied access. Does this sound familiar? A White House denying access to the press when they don't like what's written or said? This is a crisis. The book's going to come out. Conservatives online are already criticizing it along the same lines I am.

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But this should not be a red blue thing where the Democrats pretend that the book is on the up and up and the press pretends the book is on the up and up. And they're criticized by red people on X and elsewhere. That shouldn't be the way this goes, because the true story.

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The true story of what happened, whatever the book reveals about the cover-up within the administration, the true story is that that video that the publisher put together to try to show Jake Capra in the best light, the best light about how aggressive he was before the election, That's weak tea.

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But it becomes even more watered down when you show the full context of what he said in those very appearances and elsewhere. People treated it like a political story, like a polling story, like a partisan story. That's not what this was. If you want an America where the press corps can hold Donald Trump accountable, he's the current president, hold Donald Trump accountable.

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You want an America where this book is an opportunity not for Jake Tapper to make money and his co-author to make money. It's an opportunity for the press, every organization that participated in the cover up to come clean and to say what, again, is so obvious. I shouldn't have to say it. It was clear that Joe Biden had cognitive decline.

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It was clear that it was spun and covered up and bullying tactics were used. It was clear that people who didn't say it aloud had a partisan interest in not saying it aloud and that that included the media, which didn't say a word, not because they couldn't see it, but because they didn't want to be accused of helping Donald Trump win.

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I want this to be an opportunity to come clean because if we don't now, I'm not sure what other opportunity people will take. It's not that hard. Be honest. Say what happened. Say what we all saw in countless videos, in countless presidential appearances. Say it.

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Because if we do, then we can do our jobs correctly and cover the current president aggressively and with the trust of the American people.

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One is a guy named Alex Thompson, who was one of the most energetic and aggressive reporters in covering Joe Biden's mental decline. And the other author is a guy named Jake Capper, who's an anchor at CNN. And what I want to do today is to explain to you why this book represents a crisis and maybe, maybe an opportunity for the American media to regain credibility with the public.

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This goes back to the question of Joe Biden's mental decline. And I continue to laugh when I hear people say we didn't know and it was we only had a hint of it or we saw it in the debate, but not before. That's something reporters sometimes say. And a lot of Democratic officials say it's a it's a farce. So I've covered Joe Biden and know Joe Biden for pretty much my whole career.

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And in 2017, just after he left the White House, he had a book out and he was on a book tour. And I saw him do a book event, very friendly interviewer, big crowd. And he was a train wreck. He was glassy-eyed. He had trouble following the conversation. He talked hauntingly. Again, this is 2017. long before he ran for president in 2020.

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Now, I'm not a doctor. I know Joe Biden decently well, but there are plenty of people who know him better. I couldn't believe he ran for president in 2020. And so to me, his mental decline was apparent in 2017. And now what you have is a bunch of people who say it was only apparent to them on the day of the debate in the 2024 campaign.

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The reason this new book is causing such an uproar, even though it's not out until next week, is because the book purports to explain the cover-up inside the White House, the cover-up inside the White House of Joe Biden's mental decline. I don't understand how there could be a cover-up of something that was on television on a nearly nightly basis.

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And I am grateful to you because I know you love these guys and you're giving them a chance. And I think that's awesome. Today, we are bringing you some highlights from MK Media this week. First up is Next Up with Mark Halperin. Mark, as you know, is a very fair, objective reporter in a sea of liars.

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In either Joe Biden's performance, which was uneven, there were times when he was fine. We've all seen people with mental decline. We know that sometimes things are better than others. But it was on TV every night. And in 2020 and 2024, it was also on TV when Joe Biden wasn't there. He was not visible.

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And the ability to have credibility to cover presidents was undermined significantly from 2024 back to 2019, at least. Today, Donald Trump, there's so many things that need scrutiny. His acceptance of this airplane, his family's business dealings in the Middle East with the very monarchies that he's meeting with on this trip. I could go on.

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For those in this country who say the press is not doing a tough enough job scrutinizing Donald Trump, I agree. The press should always be super tough. But what's happened is because of the way they covered Joe Biden, the press has lost credibility with the public. So why is this significant? Today, news of this new book has come leaking out to news organizations reporting on it.

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One is The Guardian, which got a copy of the book, and they report that a lot of Democrats are very unhappy that Joe Biden kept running. And he should have gotten out of the race and that and that there was efforts to cover up for him.

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Another report from Alex Thompson, who now writes for Axios, he wrote for Politico previously, says that there was discussion within the Biden camp of perhaps Biden needing a wheelchair. But he couldn't use a wheelchair during the campaign and that if he won reelection, there was talk he would use it then. That's interesting. Those are interesting things.

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I don't doubt I don't doubt either of those things are true. But it's this question of accountability, this question of did reporters do everything they could to hold Joe Biden and his team accountable for his obvious decline? Few interviews, few press conferences, few public appearances. doing things in public, not every day, but often, that showed obvious mental decline.

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This wasn't something for insiders to know or whisper about, the terms of the cover-up were, but the fact of Biden's decline was not a secret. And the public saw it. So these two guys have now written this book, okay?

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And their publisher, aware of the criticism that's already come their way, saying, how can you write a book after the election about a cover-up that we all saw with our own eyes during the campaign? made a video, a publisher making a video, not that common.

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Here's a bit of the video they made trying to establish the bona fides of the two authors, Mr. Thompson and Mr. Tapper, that they were on this from the beginning.

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And this week, he proved it again, going in-depth on his knowledge of Joe Biden's cognitive decline going back to 2017 in the wake of the new book from Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson. Launching this week was our latest offering that's spot on with Link Lauren. It's crushing it on the Apple charts. And Link launched his show with a hilarious deep dive dissection of Dylan Mulvaney like only he can.

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So you saw and if you're listening on the podcast, you heard there are two voices. One is is Alex Thompson, who was an aggressive reporter, as aggressive as almost any reporter. in trying to figure out what was going on with Joe Biden's mental acuity and how his team was handling it. And then you heard the voice of Jake Tapper.

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And the publisher did as good a job as it could to find clips of Jake Tapper seeming to be at least interested in the topic of Joe Biden's mental decline. So we thought, well, what are the counters to that? Because I know that no one at CNN was particularly aggressive about this, and I had no indication from my memory that Jake Tapper was aggressive.

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So we went and looked at the full appearances, the full segments, in which Jake Tapper was, in which the clips were pulled for that publisher video, to ask ourselves, did the full clips demonstrate that Jake Tapper in attitude and determination and focus was in real time during the campaign, during Biden's presidency, interested in getting to the bottom of this?

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So let's look at some of the clips from the publisher video, but beyond what they chose to include. Here is Joe Biden's interview with Jay Tapper in 2022. You're about to turn 80 next month.

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So he wished them happy birthday. He asked them about one poll. He's not asking him about what was already on in evidence then, which is mental decline. He's simply saying there's a poll that says Democrats don't like you. So I look at that and I say, that's not the way I would have asked it. That's not a guy who was determined to get beyond just asking about a poll.

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That's a guy who was want to wish that president a happy birthday. All right. Here's another clip. This is, again, from another interview that the public another appearance, the publisher included. This is the White House press secretary and Jake Tapper asking her a question.

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Again, this is from the same segment that the publisher used to prove that Jake Tapper was serious about getting to the bottom of this cover up.

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And then there's The Nerve with Maureen Callahan, which is on fire. Already over 100,000 subscribers on YouTube. That's amazing. And this week she took on Harry and Meghan. We love Maureen on Harry and Meghan, not to mention Taylor Swift and Blake Lively as only Maureen can. This has been my new greatest guilty pleasure. I just love listening to Maureen rip on these people. I think you can relate.

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And that matters. What did the White House do to try to control the press, to keep them from asking? A compliant and pliant press. One is they privately called them and browbeat them and said, do not cover this. If you cover this, you'll be cut off. I don't know if they did that to Jay Cap or not, but they also did what she did there in public. They said things that were ridiculous.

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Oh, he runs circles around us. He's tireless. I mean, look at his schedule. By the time that interview had occurred, there were many instances of the president having a very light schedule on overseas trips, canceling events with foreign leaders. They say, well, he always did his job, and he did his job great. No, he canceled events, and he had a very light schedule.

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So here again, he asked the pro forma question. She bats it away with one of their usual lines of spin. Oh, he's so energetic. He runs circles around the younger staff. There's no evidence of it. It's a made-up piece of spin, and he seemed to accept it there. Here's another example, again, drawn from the same appearance that the publisher used to prove that Jake Tapper was tough.

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And this is with another Biden spokesperson, Kate Bedingfield, who, by the way, was a CNN consultant. So she's being paid by CNN to spin for Joe Biden with her colleagues with whom she shares a green room and everything else. This is from February of 2024, shortly before everything went south for Joe Biden.

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Here is perhaps the biggest tale of all. If you're a reporter and you are determined to get to the bottom of this, if you think there may be a cover up at the highest levels of the government, a potential constitutional crisis, you would not treat Biden officials with humor or lightness. You would be tough and determined to get to the bottom of it.

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You don't ask about in the context of polls, which is the way he mostly asked about it. You don't accept spin that voters don't care. If you really are concerned about getting to the bottom of this, you ask the question. It's so funny I even have to say this. You ask the question about specific incidents and how they would explain it.

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And the one I always come back to is when there was an event in honor of a congresswoman who had passed away and Joe Biden tried to speak to her. as if she were alive and there, okay? That's not confusing the names of two European leaders. That's not knowing which way to walk off the stage. That's not having your first public event at noon. That's not not doing events at night.

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That is right in plain sight. And to ask about it the way he did in that appearance and to accept her spin that voters don't care, again, Welcome to do it if that's what you want to do. But to do that and then write a book saying I was determined to get to the bottom of it. This is what is this is. I don't mean to just pick on Jake Tapper, but he's the one who wrote the book.

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This is where every reporter, practically every reporter is. They engaged in the lightest questioning, the lightest possible questioning, and then accepted the bullying, accepted the spin. And again, again. They acted as if now Jake Tapper is acting as if he had been determined to get to the bottom of it. All right. This is from 2020.

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OK, right before the 2020 election, Laura Trump, President Trump's daughter in law, did an interview with Jake Tapper. And watch how indignant he gets at the mere suggestion that Joe Biden, who's doing his Delaware basement campaign, has suffered mental decline. Please roll 109.

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She is a nasty, nasty, hard partisan. And I realize you thought, okay, I'll put Trump in there and then I'll put this kind of moderate Democrat in, but no, she's not. She's just as hard partisan as the rest of them. This is no moderate. So she goes on The View this past week and And decides to try to explain Trump and Trump voters, you know, because she's from Michigan. She was on the same ballot.

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So she gets Trump. She gets MAGA. And here she was, you know, I guess all of our spokesperson explaining all of us to The View. Listen.

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Okay. Well, she's not talking about Trump, but this is not normal. Everything Trump's doing is abnormal. And it's because we're in our teenage years where our brain is not fully formed. So we're just suffering a temporary form of neurosis, of delusion, of insanity. That's our problem. We're just these mature idiots whose brains have not yet matured. But trust us, Elise...

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Somehow she's got the magic that we don't have. Like she's the mature one. She sees more than we do. She knows better. She knows better, okay? Like we're the dumb kids who need to be controlled. We just have to, she's the patient parent. She's our daddy. I told you she was bad. Do you remember? She was the one who decided to try to strangle Pete Hegseth during his confirmation hearing.

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And unlike all the other women, she did not appear in those highlight roles of like Maisie Hirono and Kirsten Gillibrand, the ones who were pummeling Pete and were like, ah, she did not because she doesn't sound like that. She doesn't sound like that, ah. But she is just as annoying, probably more dangerous, and just as partisan. That's the thing I really want you to know, Michiganders.

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You did not elect a moderate. And anybody thinking about this person as any sort of a moderate needs to reassess ASAP. So for a couple of weeks or months now, I've been asking my team to put together these sound bites of that cross-examination she did of Pete. And... And they've done a great job, but they never got like all the pieces that I wanted.

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So I actually went back myself and all my free time this week, which I did have a lot of, it's only a seven minute exchange. And I picked my favorites. I personally put this one together. It's a little disjointed, but you're going to get the feeling of why I dislike this person so much. And now this, you know, I have my soundbite. We don't go over a minute unless it's like extraordinary.

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Number one, and I'm sure Glenn and I are going to be discussing this, the left is melting down over the Trump administration's attempt to deport this leader of this shockingly anti-Semitic group on the campus of Columbia University. And his name is Mahmoud Khalil, K-H-A-L-I-L. He has been arrested. He has had his student visa withdrawn and he has had his green card withdrawn.

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It's just so irritating. It makes my blood boil. I get that. Okay. You've done your genuflecting. You've done your genuflecting. What are you scared of? Then say yes or no. I believe you care about them. I believe you. I think we both care about them. We both care about the military. Sir, I get it. You're filibustering. Everything's so pejorative, so condescending. You're genuflecting.

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You're filibustering. What are you scared of? You P word. But I totally have the same respect for the military as you do. I'm basically the same as you are. I went as like a CIA analyst to Iraq to help with intelligence. And that's basically the same as strapping a gun on my back and going and actually having to shoot bad guys. So I'm one of you. I get it.

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I, Elise Lotkin, will acknowledge that you might actually care about the military. I have decided you might be sincere in that. F you, Senator! She's truly like, she's, I guess a wolf in sheep's clothing. Um, I don't, a partisan and nonpartisans clothing. I'm not sure exactly how I want to say it other than don't trust her. Don't buy her little moderation act. And, um,

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understand what you've elected. Because I think Michiganders genuinely believe that this would be somebody who possibly could work with Trump, who wouldn't have TDS, who could go to Washington and represent the people who don't hate him, who actually voted for him for president, but aren't necessarily Republicans or diehard MAGA, right? You made a mistake there, my friends.

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You had a great Republican candidate. You rejected him. That's fine. You could rectify it the next time around. And I really, really, really hope you do. You have the possibility of doing that now. And I really, really, really hope you make a better choice because this woman is is nasty. She's a nasty person.

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The way she spoke to him about his military service, like I will deign to tell you that your love for the military is real. I believe you. Who gives a shit whether you believe Pete Hegseth cares about the troops? Who gives a shit? How dare you say that to a man who's been deployed three times to Gitmo, to Iraq, to Afghanistan, and has laid his life on the line for his country?

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How dare you speak that way? and then get out there and talk to the rest of us like we're these know-nothing little teenagers, and that's the only reason why we voted for Trump, because our brains aren't fully developed. Long story short, Elise Slotkin, thumbs down. Okay, got to keep going. While we're on members of Congress...

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Sarah, formerly Tim McBride, has been elected as a congressman out of Delaware. And this is the person who led to the whole controversy over whether we were going to be letting men posing as women use the bathrooms belonging to women on Capitol Hill. Remember, Nancy Mace petitioned the House Speaker, Mike Johnson, to say, please don't allow that.

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Now, in that case, it's kind of an academic exercise because all these congressmen have their own bathrooms. But it was a chance to raise a larger issue. And do you really want Sarah, formerly known as Tim McBride, walking down, you know, in Statuary Hall and saying, oh, I got to go. I'm going to use this public bathroom that belongs to a woman.

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And there's your little girl who's there on a tour with her eighth grade class and bumping into this man posing as a woman in a skirt. Going to the bathroom? I don't think so. I don't want that. Get out. Go to your own space. And so Speaker Mike Johnson actually did change the policy to say you have to use the bathroom that aligns with your sex at birth. Well, Sarah, formerly known as Tim...

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And the left has made him into Rosa Parks, that he is a civil rights figure of our time, that he was simply exercising his right to free speech and that this is an unfair and disgusting crackdown on it. And it's not just the left. It's some people. I mean, Glenn is of the left, but, you know, obviously makes a ton of sense. And we love Glenn and he's a lawyer and he's smart.

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God, there's a reason I'm struggling with the names and I'm going to get to that. It's throwing a fit right now through the surrogates because McBride was at a House hearing and Representative Keith Self, who's a Republican from Texas, referred to Representative McBride as Mr., which is what he is. McBride is a man. He is a man in a dress. He is a man in a skirt. Doesn't make him a woman.

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Never will. And Representative Self referred to McBride as Mr., leading another congressman to have a meltdown. And the hearing ended over him using the word Mr. Watch.

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Good for you, Congressman Keith Self. And shame on you, Bill Keating, Democrat from Massachusetts, who used the opportunity of him speaking truth and reality to grandstand. That's what happened. Sarah McBride is a man. Sarah McBride is a man. Sarah McBride is a man. That's why he said Mr., I am sick of the pronoun nonsense. And this is in that category.

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This is an honorific, what you get called by. But it's the same disconnect. It's when you try to rub your belly and pat your head at the same time. And it's hard. Like the left and the right, they don't really want to do the same thing. They don't. There's an incongruity happening inside your brain. And that's what was happening to Representative Self, who knew what he was looking at was a mister.

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Sorry, Sarah, you're not fooling anyone. Okay? You might look with the long hair to some people like a woman. As soon as we hear you speak, we know. All right? We know. It's obvious to everyone. And this is what Sarah decided to say about the issue after the fact, Sat 17.

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I would say he's much more antagonistic to Israel than than most of the people on the right are. That's fine. Totally fine. But he is definitely defensive of Khalil here saying that this is this is unconstitutional. What the government's doing to him. It's a crackdown on free speech. And he's not the only one. Our friends over at FIRE. which is big on campus free speech.

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So you have a penis and are in a dress. So you get to stop with the lectures on the culture wars. OK, you're a man with either a wig or with women's hair. I guess maybe fake breasts. I don't know what you did in there. Don't really want to know either. But you're wearing a fucking dress and you've got a dick. I'm sorry. I just like get it together, sir.

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You might not be in a position to lecture Republicans on the culture wars. All right. You're the one trying to pervert the culture right now. The vast majority of male to female trans people are auto gynophiles. They get off. It's a perversion on dressing like a woman. It's a fetish. They get an erection by putting on women's clothing and making the rest of us participate in the delusion.

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So Representative Faith did the right thing. He wouldn't participate in anyone else's delusion. And he doesn't have to. And neither do you. I don't want to participate in anybody's fetish. There are guys who get off and dressing in a diaper and having women pretend that they're their little baby. It's a no. I'm not participating in that from afar or anyplace else.

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I don't have to see this person when he's out of the bedroom and say, oh, how's my little baby? No, I wouldn't. And I don't. And I don't have to look at Sarah, formerly Tim McBride, and say Mr. and say Miss. See, I can't do it. The reason I'm stuttering on it is because we know what the truth is. We know the truth is Mr. We know that.

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And that's why when you try to say Miss or Congresswoman, you can't. You stutter just a bit. You could get it out, but you've been hearing it. There's like a second of pause because it's the head and the belly thing. I know what's real. I've mentioned this piece to you guys many times. Okay. It is called pronouns are rehypnol. Pronouns are rehypnol. And it's by somebody named Bara Kerr.

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I've been with my kids and Doug all week on spring break, came back on Friday and did an hour live with the audience on Sirius XM, Triumph Channel 111, on our special series on baby Lisa, a case we will continue to follow. But it's been such a busy news week that I'm here with this special episode just to break down some of the stories that were driving me insane this week.

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This thing was like contraband on the internet for quite some time after it was initially posted. Nobody would let it be posted. They kept pulling it down. Um, and then finally it did get posted and now it's on the internet and you can just Google it and read it yourself. Okay. So this is how Baraker puts it. This is a couple of years ago. So there's a brave piece.

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Um, there's a lot of chat around, um, pronouns right now, specifically preferred pronouns, by which is usually meant the pronouns a person would prefer other people to use when they are the subject being discussed by those people. This is how I want you to talk about me. They bill it as a simple politeness, a courtesy.

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They go on to say, I've also heard many people declaring that anyone who won't comply, usually directed as a woman, but here it was a man, is obnoxious, mean, hostile, unpleasant. Misgendering is hate speech, they say. That is what Representative Faith was accused of, misgendering Sarah, formerly Tim McBride. Misgendering. What he did was actually gender Tim, now Sarah, correctly.

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I'm not trying to be disrespectful of McBride by quote dead naming him. My general policy is if you change your name for whatever reason, I'll go along with your new name. Fine. Lots of people do that. So I will call you Sarah if I must, but I will not call you she or her or miss or Mrs. or Congresswoman because those are false. They're fake. That's fake news. It's not reality.

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They are against what the Trump administration is doing to Khalil. Ricky Schlott, who interned for our show, writes for the New York Post now and also co-wrote a book with the guy who runs FIRE. She's been posting against it. There are some folks on the right who have free speech concerns about what's happening here. So it's not just a leftist issue. But having taken a few days to look at the law,

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If your name is now suddenly Sarah because you changed it legally, then that's your new reality and I'm fine to go along with it. The reason I'm now saying Sarah, formerly Tim, is because I'm trying to make a point to you about why accurate pronouns are so important and why it's so hard to play the game, the delusion game they want us to. All right, I'm coming to something.

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So, okay, Bara writes the following. One of the biggest obstacles to halting the stampede over women's rights is pronoun and preferred name courtesy. People severely underestimate the psychological impact to themselves and to others of compliance. And now... They go on to talk about, forgive me, I don't know whether Bara Kerr is a man or a woman, so I don't know what the pronouns are here.

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But Kerr goes on to talk about how there's this test. You see all these colors I'm holding up? They're colors like blue, gray, red, blue, orange, red, whatever. But these colors in this test are not in their proper colors. like color, like blue in this thing is written as blue, but so is yellow. Yellow is also written in blue. Gray is written in pink. Blue appears elsewhere in yellow.

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Purple appears in yellow. Red appears in green. And how there is this experiment that you can take that shows how much harder it is for you to say the color of the words written in front of you when they're in the wrong color, when blue is a color other than blue, when red is a color other than red, because your brain has an understanding.

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You have this conscious awareness and a subconscious awareness that you're fighting a conflict that something's wrong about what you're being asked to say and using preferred pronouns, Barakur goes on, does the same. It alters your attention, your speed of processing, your automaticity. You may find it makes you anxious.

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You pay less heed to what you say, what you want to say, and more to what is expected of you. It slows you down. It confuses you. It makes you less reactive. That's not a good thing. Is that how we want our members of Congress? Do we want hearings in the halls of Congress with a bunch of congressmen who are slowed down, are confused, and who are less reactive to what they're hearing?

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We do not, ladies and gentlemen. And it's not cruel behavior. to try to avoid that unnecessary distraction and hampering of our lawmakers. That's what Mr. Faith was standing up for. Mr. Self, I keep calling Mr. Faith, Mr. Self. That's what he was standing up for. He was standing up for reality and for the ability to function in his job in as clean and easy and effective a manner as possible.

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Notwithstanding the obvious delusion of the man wearing a skirt up on the dais with him. The thing about pronouns are real hypno and this piece that really stuck out at me is it ties back to Gavin DeBecker's, the gift of fear, not explicitly, but in idea. And almost every woman I know has read that book. And if you haven't, you should. And if you're a dad or a brother, um,

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you need to buy it for your, your, all the women in your life. Okay. Or a grandfather or a husband because Gavin DeBecker is a national security expert. I mean, a security expert. He has been fighting to prevent people who have been stalking victims from getting restocked to tighten laws around this.

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I have zero qualms about this guy getting his ass booted back to Syria. Goodbye Khalil, enjoy Syria or wherever you wind up. I really don't give a shit where it is. He got a golden ticket into the United States of America. We gave him a student visa. He got into one of our most prestigious universities. We let him study alongside American kids who were the next generation of leadership.

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He's been on the security teams of our biggest and most well-known celebrities and business executives, um, politicians, you name it. He's a true expert in security. And Gavin DeBecker wrote The Gift of Fear many years ago. And it's about how women have an innate sixth sense.

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And it's the thing that tells you late at night when you're getting out of the parking garage and getting into the elevator, if you see a sketchy male character in there, don't go in. don't go in. Or when you see somebody come up to you as you have your groceries and you're trying to open up your front door of your house, who says, oh, let me help you. Let me help you.

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And you've got that tingling sense in the back of your neck, go up. That's your gift of fear. And you say, no, thank you. But you have this other side of you that's groomed by society. Be nice, be courteous. Don't be unkind. Don't be a bitch. Be nice. He's trying to help you. He's that gift of fear and the way women are raised, girls are raised. Be nice, be kind. Don't be mean.

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Don't hurt people's feelings. The guy did you a solid. He offered to carry your groceries. Let him carry them. This is doing a kindness and being neighborly or get in the elevator. You're going to hurt his feelings. What are you trying to say? Like you're better than he is. You're telling, I think he smells, you know, like what you're going to, what do you mean?

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He just going to feel rejected in there. Like you think he's some sort of a pervert fucking get in the box, get in the locked box with the person who's making all of your spidey senses go off. That is crazy. So that's what Gavin DeBecker writes, writes about in the gift of fear. And he's spot on. We all have it and we must listen to it and we must not let it be dulled.

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by fake or preferred pronouns, which ask us to reject our innate senses, our innate understanding of what is real and what isn't in the name of kindness, politeness, courtesy, common courtesy, or decency, as you heard there, decency. Have you no decency is what was said in that exchange, that it was indecent. for him to call Sarah, formerly Tim, mister. It was absolutely decent. It was truthful.

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It was honest. And here is what they say about the pronouns are like Rohypnol. They dull your defenses. They challenge your inhibitions. They're meant to. You've had a lifetime's experience learning to be alert, to him and relax to her. That is true. It's not to say all men are evil or dangerous, but guys, you know what we're talking about.

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You know what, you know, if you've sent a young girl off to college, you know exactly who you've warned her about or off to some party in her later high school years. You're not really worried about her fellow girlfriends sexually assaulting her. They can do different kinds of damage, but not that it's men.

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It's men who in the overwhelming number of cases involving sexual assault or harm are the perpetrators against women. For good reason, you've had this lifetime's experience. This instinctive response keeps you safe. It's not even a conscious thing. It's like your hair standing on end.

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Your subconscious brain is helping you not get eaten by the saber-toothed tiger that your eyes have not yet noticed. Incongruent pronouns also make your brain work much harder, not just when you're using them, but when you are receiving them as information. You are working constantly to keep that story straight in your head, male or female, which one again?

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Concentrate harder, ignore your instincts, ignore your reaction. Ignore. And you are still affected emotionally and instinctively by incongruent pronouns, nouns, and names, despite your efforts to be immune. You're not immune to this effect. You can know perfectly the actual sex of a male person, and yet you will still react differently if someone else calls them she instead of he.

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Pronouns are dangerous." That's the truth. And the piece concludes by saying, I want to be alert. I want others to be alert. I want people to see the real picture. And I want those instinctive reactions that we feel when something is wrong to be unblunted, undulled by this cheap but effective psychological trick. I feel like I owe this to myself and I absolutely owe it to other women.

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And that is why I will not use preferred pronouns. Using Rohypnol on others is not a courtesy. That's so well done. And it's exactly right. And that is why it was totally appropriate and right and correct to refer to McBride as Mr. So thank you for doing that. Thank you, Keith Self. I appreciate it.

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And what did he do? He decided to join up with this group that is, without a question, pro-Hamas, that was allegedly distributing pro-Hamas drugs. pamphlets, leaflets, promotional materials. He was extremely defensive of what had been done by Hamas on 10-7. And he recognized that even though he was here on a temporary status, yes, we give him a green card, but that you're not a citizen yet.

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And Bill Keating, you take a lesson, sir, because you not only undermine the effectiveness of your hearing, but you in doing what you did endangered every girl and woman in on Capitol Hill, in your home state of Massachusetts, and in this country. We don't need to deny reality. We don't need to participate in McBride's delusion. It is not impolite or unkind or rude to call a man mister.

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And that is a man. And the overwhelming odds are that that man is indulging in a sexual fetish up at that microphone or on that dais. And you do not want to participate in that. Okay. That's McBride. couple of other things I need to get to before we, before we move off into, uh, the weekend and that, okay. I might save this one for Glenn Greenwald. Um, I'm on the fence.

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There's so much goodness here. You guys, I'm like, my team has pulled so many good things together that I've been texting them about all week. I'm on the fence about whether I should go for them. All right. I'll do this next one. Cause I wouldn't do it. I won't do this with Glenn Paris fashion week. was last week.

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And I remember watching some bits from Paris fashion week when, you know, I was younger, especially in a younger woman and cared about such things and like saw the fashions. I've never been particularly like a fashion queen, but I pay some attention. And this is how it used to look. I mean, like the most beautiful women on earth strutting down the runway, totally freaking iconic.

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Here's one from the 1990s. It's the Versace show. Okay, look at these women. Carla Bruni, Claudia Schaefer, Naomi Campbell, Cindy Crawford, Helena Christensen. They're goddesses. They're absolute goddesses. They look about 10 feet tall in their gold Versace dresses with the shimmer. I mean, just... Female icons, total womanhood. And it was lovely to watch, absolutely lovely.

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And here's another one. This is a 2016 Balmain show. Okay, stunning, stunning seven foot tall models with, you know, some cutouts on the dress, but still appropriate. Perfectly shapely, not anorexic for what it's worth, you know, just like great looking. Gorgeous, perfectly made up, legs to the moon. great jewelry, sparkly, fierce, feminine, fabulous. Love it. There's some inspo there.

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There's some inspo. Whenever I saw things like that, I would, I would think to myself, I gotta try harder. I gotta try harder. Like in a good way, you know, like maybe I will lose that last two pounds. I won't have that dessert. Or maybe I will like spend five more minutes at the makeup table just to try something new with the eyeliner. Like, I think you feel good when you look good. Um,

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There was some football player Doug told me about who used to say, when you look good or when you feel good, or when you look good, you feel good. When you feel good, you play good. When you play good, they pay good.

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I remembered a sports reference. Anyway, there's some truth to it. Well, we've gone a different way over in Paris where we had a very different kind of fashion week, including this man in a red dress that he's bald. He looks to me exactly like Uncle Fester. Take a look at this thing. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. He's got to be six and a half feet tall. He's got to be 350 pounds.

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He's wearing, I think, a white skull cap and white makeup on his face. Look at this. It's the same man. It's Uncle Fester. He's put on even more weight and he's gained a lot and he's gained some inches. They're proud of the disgusting, huge, fat belly, which is also being shown in the slit dress. And absolutely no attempt, you know, to sort of work it like, you know, like a Laverne Cox might.

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You know what I mean? Like work it as you walk the runway. No, he's walking like an Uncle Fester as well. And look at these idiots watching him in the gallery. Idiots. Somebody should have said, come on. Why didn't somebody say boo? Come on, sit down. Because they need to socialize in these circles. They can't be kicked out of the after party.

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Can't have it. Now, there's more about this particular fashion event, and I've got to find it because it's unbelievable. Here it is. Okay. By the way, this was during International Women's Week, too, so take that for what it is. Uncle Fester... The show was by Matiere Fecales. Okay, reading that from my team, which translates to fecal matter, piece of shit, which is absolutely true.

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that he should be in a more of a supportive role for this organization that was organizing the hell on Columbia's campus. But he still took part. He couldn't quite keep it together long enough to get citizenship. It was that important to him. And so by his own admission, he was a spokesperson for the group. that was on Columbia's campus last year causing all the havoc.

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So are they just trolling us? Because this is a piece of shit, attempted fashion. It's a Canadian design duo named Hannah Rose Dalton and Stephen Raj Bhaskaran. And those are the ones who chose a bald, overweight man with white makeup to walk the runway in the fashion that we just discussed. The model was, quote, gender nonconforming. He's a DJ and a performance artist who goes by Louis G. Burton.

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Louis's Instagram shows that he is a man who dresses as a woman. But all of this has me wondering whether this is a real fashion pair or Why would they call their show Fecal Matter in French? Materies Ficales. I took Spanish, which is literally piece of shit. Like, I'd like to know more. If that was your goal, you nailed it. That was definitely piece of shit fashion.

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But I think instead, it's probably just an effort to be as risque and push the envelope as possible so that you can be part of the cool kids. That's what gets you props. There was another moment in Paris Fashion Week that was right up the same alley.

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This one was from Dutch designer Duran Latink's Duranimal collection, where a male model who had double D, at least, prosthetic breasts walked the runway. These things are jiggling like nobody's business. Look at this. This is so freaky. This is a freak. That's what I see as a freak. Somebody you used to have to pay money to see this in a circle.

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For the listening audience, it's a very tall man with pants. And it appears to be no shirt, though I'm told it's one of those Bianca Sensori tops that actually is just like mesh. You can see right through it. There was something. You couldn't have told. It was a matched skin tone top, creating the illusion he was topless.

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Um, Latink, the designer of what again was the designer of what garment defended the look to women's wear daily. It's about cosplay. It's playing with bad taste. It's about form. Every season we're trying to sort of surprise ourselves with how we can change an original piece into something that we find interesting. And we're going to do whatever the fuck we want because we're free. Great.

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You do that, Mr. LeTink, and we will not buy any of your clothing, okay? Such as it is. There are always going to be mentally deranged people in our society, like the two people who were featured in Paris Fashion Show. And then there will be equally cynical advantage takers, like the designers behind this whole thing. The only solution for the rest of us is to say no, call out the depravity,

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and register how gross we find it. That's all we can do, or we're going to lose everything to these people. Already, our society has devolved to the point where women are running around half-naked at public events. You know, we talked about what we saw at the Oscars. Look what happens at the Grammys. You know, Bianca Sensori, I just mentioned her.

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People are already literally running around naked to get attention. And now... It's perfectly on brand for fashion week, which is supposed to have like a preview of what's coming to be naked too, but also trans and a man pretending to be a woman, a man, I guess, mocking women's breasts, which are actually a mechanism to keep infants alive and not your play thing, not your fucking accessory thing.

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you Danish freak. Um, it's just so deeply offensive and all the rest of us can do is continue objecting. Just be loud about it. Object, you know, say you're disgusted. Don't tune in when it's somebody whose product we can punish. But to just let it go with like a chuckle, that's not good enough. This is this is truly sick stuff. And it cannot define us and it cannot continue. It really can't.

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Were they there to protest all the dead babies in Israel? No, they weren't. They actually looked at that as an acceptable form of armed resistance. We heard that from Khalil's own mouth, at least according to a fellow student at Columbia who posted a video of him speaking for the group whose spokesman he was, justifying armed resistance against Israel. This is, again, post-10-7.

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Whether it's some guy dressed as a woman in the U.S. Congress demanding to be called Miss. No. Some guy putting on. Prosthetic breasts, again, which are an organ that help children sustain life, not your toy. Or Uncle Fester putting on a red dress and trying to walk through a fashion week as I don't even know what he was trying to do.

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I'm not sure, but I liked him a lot better when he was on The Addams Family. It was a great show.

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All right, so that's it for now. Those are the things I had to go off on. I have a lot more to discuss, including the Michelle Obama podcast and an amazing fact check we're going to be doing on CNN that I think you're really going to enjoy. But we'll save that for when Glenn joins us on Monday. See you then. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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Columbia student David Lederer posted this on X on March 11th. It's a little hard to hear, but try to listen here on SOP 14A.

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Okay, so what you heard there is Palestinians have tried multiple forms of resistance, whether it's armed, unarmed resistance, peaceful, whatever, but Israel and their propaganda always find something to attack. We tried armed resistance, which is, again, legitimate under international law, but again, Israel, it is terrorism. So that's okay. That's a, that's a point of view.

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Um, we don't have to actually support him in that point of view because what he's really doing there is endorsing Hamas and it's, it's terror tactics and endorsing a terrorist group now gets you on to even shake your ground. Okay. But we're still in speech. So he's still on firmer, you know, terra firma versus what actually is going to get him deported.

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I'm just giving you background on who this guy is. So then he goes and he decides to be the spokesperson for the group that took over Hamilton Hall, that had campus encampments, that made it difficult for Jewish students to pass from A to B on the campus of Columbia, that made it impossible for anyone—Jewish students, professors, cops—

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to enter Hamilton Hall, a facility for which all students pay, including the Jews. But they weren't wanted because this group took over Hamilton Hall, acted like a bunch of thugs, put barricades up against the doors, smashed windows with their cafeas on, and

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And then we're going to start with the new show on Monday with Glenn Greenwald. At that point, I will still be on spring break, but not on vacation. I will be moving locations, but I will not be on vacation. But I just needed to get to a couple of these stories, which are not evergreen. And I needed to talk to you about them before they got old. Yeah.

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effectively held hostage for a time, a couple of security guards who were in the building, including guys, maintenance workers who weren't making a lot of dough, who felt personally threatened. But here's some video, just in case you have forgotten, about what his darling little student group that he's the spokesman for, he was the negotiator for, did at Columbia last year.

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The caption reads, from our side of the barricades. And sure enough, it's all these CAFEA-wearing Columbia students screaming and leaning, full-body leaning against the doors, large wooden doors, and there are several sets of them, into Hamilton Hall, Free Free Palestine, as they chant. Do not hold your ground! Do not hold your ground! NYPD back down! NYPD back down! Yeah!

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They've got ladders, but they're using the barricade. The doors, stun grenades now are going off. It's Bedlam. Cops are trying to get in. Let us not dialogue with our persecutors. They're called police officers, and when they tell you to sit your ass down, you do it. Or you get arrested or possibly deported, Khalil.

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Now, he was smart enough not to actually go, as far as we know, to that particular event because he was trying to become one of us. He was trying to become a U.S. citizen. It's a no, okay? It's a no, sir. Enjoy Syria. Zero chance he's becoming an American citizen now. But he wants to hold on to that green card. He wants to stay here in the United States. And he says, oh, I'm married.

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I'm married to an American and I'm expecting an American baby. Should have thought of that before last year. Bye. Get out. Who the hell feels sorry for this guy? He'll do fine in Syria. His ideology seems to parallel perfectly what he will find over there. You'll love it. Sharia law, you can find it in lots of places in the Middle East. Take your pick, but not here in America. Bye.

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So what did he do? He acted as the liaison between this lawless student group and the university and continued to go into, this is our understanding as of this date, there hasn't been a full recitation of it, but I've spent the weekend pouring through the reports and what we do know about him.

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And it appears, there's no question he was the spokesperson for this group that was behind the encampments and behind the taking of Hamilton Hall. And he was in there with the administrators, apparently on a daily basis, saying, basically, you give us what we want, which is to divest Colombia from all of Israel, or you get more Hamilton Halls. Do you understand?

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And before Glenn gets here, some of which he'll have no interest in, some of which he will. All right, we're going to get to all of it. So let me just dig right in. These days, personal safety is not something that can be left to chance. Whether at home, on the road, or just living everyday life, having a reliable way to protect yourself and your family is crucial.

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And Andy McCarthy of National Review has had a couple of great pieces of this on this one on Fox News, one on NR. And he likened this to the... To the guy, Robert Duvall character in The Godfather, Tom Hogan, who went over to see the movie producer who wouldn't cast the Frank Sinatra-like character in that movie, in his movie. And, you know, just kind of like... It'd be great if you'd cast him.

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I'd love it if you'd cast him. I'm not muscle. I'm just the lawyer. But geez, we'd really appreciate it if you cast him in this role. And the Hollywood guy's like, no, F off. Nobody tells me how to cast my movies. And then he got a head horse in his bed. His favorite racing horse wound up with its bloody head in his bed in one of the most infamous or famous scenes from that movie.

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Most memorable for sure. And it's as if you have that guy saying, well, I just it was speech. All I said is I'm not here to threaten you. But, you know, we'd really appreciate it if you put him if you put him in. You know, it's a threat. You're acting as the muscle. You really are the implicit muscle for a terror group. A lawless group and a terror group, frankly, on Columbia campus.

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This guy was in there saying, you divest from Israel or you get the hose again. You get it? That's how this is gonna go down. He was the guy doing that. And even the Columbia administrators, the farthest left people you could probably find in America, kept saying, no, we're not gonna do that, Khalil. No, your requests are a little bit much, even for us. And the student group would not disband.

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And that is why the NYPD had to break down the doors with stun grenades. None of that shit is lawful. They were guilty of trespassing, of resisting arrest, of destruction of property. There may have been assaults there. There have been plenty of criminal charges that have been unleashed on some 40 plus people who participated in what we saw there on camera and the related events.

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Now, Khalil may or may not have been one of them. I don't know. I know he has joined a motion to stop the university from releasing what it knows about Khalil to the federal government, which is trying to find out right now. He and some handful of others have just filed a motion trying to stop the university from revealing the full extent of what they know about Khalil. Good luck with that. Okay.

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If you didn't do anything, that's problematic. It was just speech. It was just your little speeches, your thoughts. Why are you, why would you want to stop it from going to the feds? You should actually be thrilled to see that go. She'd be like, it's speech. Hello. I'm practically an American. I've got my green card. All I did was speak words, pro Hamas words, but they were words.

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No, there's a reason he doesn't want that stuff released. And by the way, there is a question, even if it's just words, there is a question about whether he could be deported, notwithstanding the fact that he's got a green card. Go listen to Andy McCarthy and his podcast on NR. It's well worth your time.

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And he talks about how this is what jihadists do and have been planning to do in America for a very long time. They try to get into the country and They try to take advantage of our laws and our constitution, which is very permissive when it comes to the expression of ideas and the freedom of assembly.

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And then they try to martyr themselves and bit by bit change the law just to make it a bit more flexible, a little bit better for their side. And so there is a real reason for the Secretary of State to be able to say, I consider that person, not yet a citizen, a threat to the foreign policy of the United States of America. How so?

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Because we don't wish to send the message to other countries that they can send their jihad lovers over here to congregate on American campuses and try to convert everyone our youngsters, who are impressionable young teenagers for at least the first half of college, into joining the jihad, totally valid POV. And there's no question the Secretary of State has the power to do that.

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Okay, that's just speech. That's how the law is to me, pretty clear. If what you're just speaking about is jihad or supportive terror, I'm Yeah, you're in trouble if you're not an actual citizen, not if you're an American citizen, not necessarily. But if you're somebody who's less than a citizen asking us to continue the privilege of you staying here, you're in trouble, my friend.

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And your conduct is where I really want this to land. This guy did more than just speak. He acted like the Robert Duvall character. Nice university here. Shame if anything were to happen to it. All you have to do is divest from Israel. You can have your campus back. We'll let the Jews pass. We'll let the cops come in.

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We're being perfectly, I'll say it in my soft voice, the one that Khalil uses when he talks on camera, when he presumably was dealing with administrators. Yeah. I would hate for more maintenance workers to get hurt. I would hate for more cops to have to endanger their young lives.

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I really would hate for more property that the Jews have paid for to get destroyed here on this pretty little campus of yours, administrators. Fuck you, Mahmoud. Get out. All right. So that's it. Glenn Greenwald's coming on on Monday. He and I am sure we'll have a robust debate about this because he's definitely on the other side and I love Glenn. So he's just the man to do it with.

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So that's exciting. We'll do that. Okay. A couple of other things that I definitely want to get to. Elise Slotkin. She went on The View. She's a new senator from Michigan. And I never heard of this person. You probably haven't either. But she's trying to make a name for herself because she's the newly elected senator from the state of Michigan.

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And she was on the same ballot that elected Trump because Michigan went for Trump. And she also got elected. So she's like, I'm the moderate. I'm the future. You guys are going to love me because you same people who put Trump in office and my friends in Michigan, and I do have a lot of them. Would you please listen to me, Michiganders? You elected an idiot. She's a nasty person.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and today's AM special episode where we take a deep dive today into Duke lacrosse accuser Crystal Mangum admitting once and for all that she made up that entire story. This is such a crazy story on so many levels, you guys.

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where you have the act of rape, essentially a gang rape, it's bad enough in and of itself. But when it's made with racial epithets against the victim, absolutely unconscionable. The contempt that was shown for this victim based on her race was totally abhorrent to the New York Times.

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The thing that most of us found so abhorrent and the reason I decided to take it over myself was the combination gang-like rape activity accompanied by the racial slurs and general racial hostility. This is like, think about this. Think about these poor guys knowing they did nothing. They did nothing. And they're being accused of being vile, racist rapists.

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by the DA who can't smear them often enough, and a complicit media who refuses to pause to check it out. You know the old saying in journalism, if your mother tells you she loves you, check it out. They wouldn't check it out. His word was gold.

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They had to be guilty because they were white, they were allegedly privileged, and they were prick Duke lacrosse players who don't we all just hate all of them anyway. Meanwhile, they weren't all from families of privilege. And that was well documented at the time by Hannity, on whose show I would go regularly. And he knew at least one of them.

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I think it was Finnerty, who is from his area of Long Island. These kids were not all from families of privilege, but no one cared. Duke lacrosse players, enough said. And she was a stripper and black and a single mother. So all of that. Great. We know what to say. Here's a little bit of Nifong's allegations in the press at the time.

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Is it any wonder that protests... arose at Duke. And within about three minutes, the entire Duke lacrosse season was canceled. It was canceled by the university. You're all guilty. Before At trial, before we've even tested the credibility of your accuser, you're done.

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And you all know at this point now, with sports having gotten so big, that these kids who got into Duke Lacrosse, one of the best programs in the nation, repeatedly, they devoted their entire lives You know, their first 18 years to mastering their abilities at this sport. You get into Duke. It's a dream. It's a great school. You're playing. This is like truly a dream come true.

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And now because this one woman's allegations, your entire dream is in shambles. And that guy's out there accusing your teammates. And if you're one of these three, you of being a racist rapist. Here's some of the protests we saw.

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This is out in front of the home, the players. Signs talking about them being castrated. Outrage Duke alum.

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That was Casey Johnson. God bless him. He's a professor in, I think it's Brooklyn College in CUNY, City University of New York. And he's been right on this all along, too. He wrote a book about this. He's been on the show many times. You guys may know him. He's been doing great advocacy work on the Title IX revisions and what's happening to young men on college campuses.

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If you have a young man in your family who's going to college... or has over the past 20 years, you owe that man, Casey Johnson, a debt of gratitude because no one's done more than he has to try to get to write the ship when it comes to young men's rights on college campuses, their due process rights. And he also saw through this nonsense and was very good about talking about it.

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Um, so that was him describing after the fact, you know, in a retrospective piece, what happened, those professors, uh, immediately rushed to judgment. Unlike Britt or Dan, you know, who are familiar with whatever these storied institutions, these professors who work there were so quick to crap all over it. Yes, Duke players suck. Yes, they're evil. They're disgusting. We totally believe it.

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And we're what they put in that group of 88 faculty member statement, thanking the campus demonstrators for distributing a wanted poster of the Duke lacrosse players, calling for them to be castrated at their protest. Their ad reads in part, this is a social disaster. No one is really talking about how to keep the young woman herself central to this conversation.

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Regardless of the results of the police investigation, what is apparent every day now is the anger and fear of many students who know themselves to be objects of racism and sexism. Will they come forward now? I mean, truly, will they, with a woman who was in that protest video speaking out on that bullhorn, will they come forward and say, again, I would like to be heard and I got it deeply wrong.

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Everyone, everyone else in the media rushed to judgment because what was alleged in this case, for those of you who were not around or too young to care, or it's just been a long time. was that on March, I don't remember the date, but in March of 2006, three Duke lacrosse players gang raped a woman of color, a black woman from Durham, North Carolina. That's where Duke is located.

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And I'm very, very sorry. Very, very sorry. Because now the accuser has admitted what we knew, which is she lied and made the whole thing up. She made the whole thing up. The temperatures were rising in Durham and around these boys. The lacrosse season was shut down. The university was in the news every day.

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And Mike Nifong, the DA, was briefed by the Durham police investigator who told him that there were a number of weaknesses in this case, including that Mangum, the accuser, had made inconsistent statements to the cops and had changed their story several times.

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that there was another dancer named Kim Roberts present with her on the night in question at the party and that she disputed Mangum's story, saying that she did not see a rape occur and suggesting that the accuser wanted it to appear as if she had been attacked and saying...

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that the lacrosse players were disappointed in their striptease and that some racial slurs were used, but then they left without any assault taking place that she saw or knew of or heard Crystal Mangum complain of. Okay. Mike Nifong took that information and was not persuaded at all. It was pedal to the metal, and we played you some of his public statements about it.

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He told MSNBC on March 31st, 2006, that somebody had an arm around her like this, which she then had to struggle with in order to be able to breathe. What? This is the level of detail he was going into. in the public arena, knowing nothing. We would later find out he had never even spoken to Crystal Mangum at this point. He's saying all this stuff. He'd never even spoken to her.

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What he'd spoken to, who he'd spoken to, were his detectives who were telling him there were massive problems with her case and her story's very inconsistent. And the woman who'd been with her who said, don't believe Crystal.

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he told a reporter with Rally News and Observer, I'm not going to let Durham's view in the minds of the world, you heard some of this, be a bunch of lacrosse players from Duke raping a black girl in Durham. Rush to judgment, anyone? The goal, again, to achieve justice, not a conviction.

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In early April, between the 7th and the 10th, 2006, there was DNA testing of the rape kit, which found DNA from up to four different males, not one of whom was a Duke Lacrosse member. And the day that happened, the initial report said it was up to five. The day that happened... I broke that news on Sean Hannity's show that night in primetime.

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And it was a huge development in the case that now they had the DNA test back. There was, in fact, semen from multiple men inside of the accuser. And not one of those men was named Reed Seligman, Dave Evans, or Colin Finnerty, nor a player on the Duke lacrosse team at all. That is it, folks. That's ballgame. And I had it dead to rights.

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I went out on the air that night and reported it, and it was huge news. Should have been over. Nifong should have ended his case the next day. That's what happened, in fact, was April 11th. He comes out and says to the news media, it doesn't mean nothing happened. It just means nothing was left behind. Okay. Okay.

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So she had sex with at least four men right around the time that she was allegedly gang raped.

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And the three now gang rapers who she wasn't able to identify in the first two passes of the photo lineup, which was already biased, took time to put on condoms that they just happened to have on their persons when they allegedly locked her in a bathroom, which by the way, where she said she was raped orally, anally, and vaginally, and didn't get a mark on them, not a fingernail mark on them, nothing.

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and somehow managed to escape without leaving any DNA on her. This is what we were dealing with. It was becoming more and more obvious. And yet, by the way, the media held on. It's not like even at this point, the media was like, she's a liar. No, they held on. If you go back and look at the reporting, they still, the New York Times was among the worst to cover this.

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On April 17th, after that news, Naifang sought the indictments against Finnerty and Seligman for first degree rape, first degree sex offense and kidnapping. And within a month, he indicted Dave Evans for the same. Unbelievable. After all I just said, this was mind blowing. But the media was not reporting these details and most in the public was not aware. of these exonerating details.

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And Durham has a not well-off side of town, and it is a majority-minority town. So these are three white boys at Duke on the lacrosse team and one black stripper who claimed she'd been gang raped by them. I mean, just in those allegations alone, you can see and feel how explosive it was and would have been. And it allegedly happened at a house in which the Duke lacrosse team was holding a party.

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Dave Evans at the indictment, the team captain came out and made a brief statement. He hadn't spoken to any of the media. None of them had. I was there. And the part I remember the best, I don't think we have it in the soundbite, but was he looked at us and said, I am innocent. You have all been told some fantastic lies. Watch.

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It was as clear a statement of innocence as you could get. It was not, I will not be found guilty or I deny these allegations or I would never. It was, I am innocent. These are lies and they'll be proven untrue. And every word of that was correct. Still, the media and this DA pushed forward.

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May 18th, 2006, Nifong handed over discovery materials to the defense, but they did not include any underlying data or information about the DNA testing. An analysis did not include any documentation or information indicating the presence of DNA from multiple unidentified males on the rape kit items, did not provide statements of any witnesses taken during the investigation.

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Naifeng told the court the state is not aware of any additional material or information which may be exculpatory, meaning tending to prove innocence. October 27th, 2006, lawyers for the defendants finally determined that they were not given the results of the DNA tests. And in December, Nifong finally interviewed Crystal Mangum. December. This case started the previous March.

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We're coming up on a year now. When he finally did, he discovered that her story had changed. She was unable now to say whether she'd been raped at all. Did he drop the case? No. No. Let me give you a feeling of what else was happening. I was still down there, up and down between DC and Durham. And we figured out, thanks to our visit to these strip clubs, where Crystal Mangum lived.

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And so my team and I, the three of us, drove over there. It was in a not great neighborhood. We were a little scared. And... A police officer actually stopped us when we got almost into the neighborhood and said, what are you doing? And we said, we're looking for the accuser in the Duke case. And he said, don't go in this neighborhood. And he said, it's not safe.

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But we did because we were chasing the story. What we knew is that she had a boyfriend named Matt and that she lived with him. So we expected that she was going to be in this home with Matt. And we saw these like serious looking dudes on the corner of this block. And then the next block is we approached your house and none of us wanted to mess with these dudes.

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And all I can remember is my producer, my photog saying, hope that's not Matt. Hope that's not Matt. It was a crazy time. So we get there and the plan was I would go up and ring the doorbell and they would shoot the scene so that if she came out, we'd at least have her on camera. We might get lucky and get her to say something.

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And so I did ring the doorbell and rang the doorbell and rang the doorbell and no one came to the door. And And as I'm standing there ringing the doorbell, a car comes out from behind the house that she's in and peels out. And we can see it's her. So my guys are like, let's go. So I run back into the van.

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It was like something out of a movie where we started moving before I was actually fully in the van. And we followed her. And we don't know what to do. We're like, we're not even sure if we should be doing this. We're not tabloid, but we do want to get, you know, something with her on camera. And it would be great if we could actually have her speak into the microphone, give us two lines.

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Where's she going? That could be newsworthy, all of it. And we followed her for a short time, but we didn't know if this was the right thing to do. We were all very green. So we called back to the And, uh, we said, we've got the accuser. She's in our line of sight. She's in the car in front of us and we're following her, but what should we do? What should we do?

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And the desk, the guy who answered at the desk said, stand by. I've got to get Kim human and involved. And, uh, so we're standing by as he asked him him what to do. And the feedback was continue pursuit. I'm like, continue pursuit. So we continue pursuit. And, uh, Didn't quite know where it was going to lead. Well, it stopped at a red light.

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And we got out of the car and we had the camera and we're going up to get her on tape. I mean, look, this woman was presumed by everybody to be a rape victim, but she was not presumed to be a rape victim by us. We had serious doubts about whether she was telling the truth. These guys' pictures were all over everywhere.

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Their career as lacrosse players had already been brought to an unceremonious early end. And we did not think she was off limits. And so we went up to get her on camera and she threw herself on the passenger side of her car and covered her head. And we said, we're out of here. That's too much for us. We're not going to do this anymore. And I think that was the right call.

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And I don't, I think chasing her initially was the right call too. But at some point as a reporter, your humanity kicks in and you say, let's do this, but we'll do it another way. So we got back into the van and we took off and we were not able to find her again. And no one was.

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Now, I did track down her father, who told me, and I reported this exclusively on Fox News at the time, that she was claiming she'd been sodomized by these boys with a broomstick, which is just so absurd. You know, again, the woman who was with her doesn't even remember anything happening to her, but she was in a closet so long, in a bathroom so long with these guys.

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So it wasn't just these three. It was the team. And this hit the media like wildfire. They loved this story. Now with retrospect, we've got some 19 years of dealing with this version of the news media under our belts. So you're not surprised to hear that given those dynamics, the racial differences, the class differences, the gender differences that the media rushed to judgment against these boys.

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They were using other objects, but they had their condoms on so that no one would see them. Like, just the notion of it. And then it was dropped by another news outlet that she had accused other men of gang rape when she was 18. And now you see a clear profile of this woman coming out, but still Nifong pressed forward and still the press was derelict in its duty. Um,

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Eventually, the case was taken away from Mike Dyfong. Eventually, what we had was an attorney general step in and take over this case. His name was Roy Cooper. He eventually became governor of the state, but he held a press conference in which he announced that he was dropping the charges against the three.

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They figured out that Nifong was a dishonest broker, that he hadn't handed over required discovery to the defense, including DNA results, and that this was an out-of-control rogue prosecutor and a miscarriage of justice. He stepped in and announced that these guys were not guilty and he was dropping the charges. Here's a bit of that.

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I got a chill just listening to that actually brings up like an emotion for me. They'd been put through hell. I remember Reed Seligman had receipts second by second for where he'd been that night, showing that he could not possibly have committed this crime. And she made a mistake in picking him because like he really had an alibi.

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Still, they put him through the same hell that they put the other two through. And their parents absolutely bat shit crazy over what was being done to their boys. And yet no one giving them a fair shake, not the DA, not the media, no one, almost no one. Um, that was an extraordinary day when finally someone of reason took over and Dave Evans spoke out on April 11th, that same day, 2007. Listen,

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Well said, Dave Evans. Just an example in class, fortitude, and character. He was given credit there to his two co-defendants, but he deserves a lot as well. All of them do. And the men on the Duke lacrosse team who nearly had their lives ruined as well just by smears and reputation adjacency. Um, even after Nifong's claims fell apart, some on the left held on to the nonsense. Just one example.

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But at the time, believe it or not, we weren't like that yet in the media. We weren't used to the media doing this. It was still a time in which we tended to be more judicious in our coverage and careful. And this was the before and after moment at which we abandoned that. It really was. This was the seminal moment.

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Her name is Amanda Marcotte. She'd written for slate, the guardian, another leading progressive publications. She has, she defended the hoax. She defended the baseless prosecution even after the charges were brought against Nifong because ultimately I'll tell you what happened to him, but it wasn't good. When he found himself on the defense, she was still standing by this bogus hoax.

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On her blog, she wrote people who defended the wrongly accused Duke students were rape-loving scum. She complained about the charges being thrown out, sarcastically asking, can't a few white boys sexually assault a black woman anymore without people getting all wound up about it? She is now the senior politics writer at Salon.

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The left doesn't throw you out for race baiting and getting it so deeply wrong that you could easily be sued. they promote you. They celebrate you. They have you write more articles like this one. Um, she's author of, I guess it's a book troll nation, how the right became Trump worshiping monsters set on rat fucking liberals, America and truth itself. That's lovely.

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That's our left-wing blog salon. Nice. Good for you. It must be very proud. Mike knife on did find himself on the receiving end of charges. Crystal Mangum, no. The attorney general said he would not be charging her, even though he clearly could have, because of her mental state. They believed she was nuts, so they didn't charge her.

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It was very controversial at the time, but they didn't think that was the way to go. They did, however, seek to disbar Mike Nifong, which was easy. He was disgraced and disbarred. And then they went after him criminally, and he wound up having to spend a day in jail, which was symbolic, just to say to the public, he's the villain. Which, yeah, he is. It's clear. He did ultimately, after...

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losing his entire career, never mind his reputation, come out and apologize. It was during his disbarment hearing when he was struggling to save his law license. Here's some of that.

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Didn't work. Lost his law license. Spent a day in jail for contempt of court. That's what he was being punished for and has never recovered since. He's still disgraced and a walking example of what happens when a rogue prosecutor misunderstands his role in the system. A lesson many prosecutors out there today could stand to benefit from learning. Wish they'd pay attention.

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As for Crystal Mangum, things did not go well for her after this case fell apart. She came out in 2008, so not long after the case was dismissed, April of 2007, and she wrote a book. And in her book, she reasserted her claims. She reasserted them. Take a listen to her here from 2008.

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in the media leaning into what we now know as wokeness when they looked at cases and stories like this one. It was a travesty in many ways. And thank God these three boys wound up getting let off the hook by the attorney general who stepped in to take over. But the media, they got away with it. And they continued to sin in exactly the same way they did in that case ever since.

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Still a liar. She was threatened with a defamation suit by one of the boy's families at that time. She was doubling down, just not admitting it. Okay, so we're still supposed to go with mental state. Got it. Supposed to still feel sorry for her. Don't. And that was 2008. And then, you know what happened? In 2013, She went to prison for second-degree murder of her boyfriend.

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I don't know if it was Matt. Hope that's not Matt. I'm not sure. She went to jail for second-degree murder. And when she was found guilty... Newsbusters reported at the time that they keep an eye on left-wing bias. There were no Duke accuser updates at ABC, CBS, NBC, NPR, PBS, USA Today, or the Washington Post. New York Times had a tiny little column on it.

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Turns out she's a murderer in addition to being a false rape accuser. Not worth an update. Why step on our old narrative? We already took a black eye on it. No reason to make it two.

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And then this week, we get this extraordinary piece of tape from a little old show no one's ever heard of called Let's Talk with Kat, spelled with a K, in an interview that happened at the North Carolina Correctional Institution for Women.

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And finally, finally, almost 19 years after this happened, Crystal Mangum tells the truth that she made this whole thing up and addresses the young men specifically. Listen. Do you have any regrets?

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Wow. So that's how the saga ends. It almost never happens. We were dangerously close to her lies sending those three innocent promising amazing young men to prison for the vast majority of their lives. We were dangerously close to it. I'm glad she acknowledged it. I'm glad she apologized. I don't know what it'll do.

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Here we are almost 20 years later, and they're still at it. And that's really what's remarkable about this case. And for me, it is personal because I lived it firsthand. And I'll tell you what brought me to the case. I was hired by Fox in August of 2004. I had done a year in journalism working for the ABC affiliate down in Washington, DC.

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She can no longer be prosecuted for lying under oath, as she did, because the statute of limitations has run on that claim, but she's in prison for a long, long time, thanks to her second-degree murder conviction. The boys did ultimately sue. They sued in a civil suit, Duke University, which was settled.

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And reportedly, though we don't know, the university paid approximately $20 million to each claimant. That's unconfirmed. We reached out to them to see if they had any reaction to Crystal Mangum finally coming clean. And we actually have an exclusive statement here from not Dave Evans, but his lawyer, Joe Cheshire, who represents him. This is just to us. Quote,

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I'm extremely pleased that Crystal Mangum finally decided to tell the truth. For those of us that were involved in the Duke Lacrosse case, there was never a question as to the innocence of these young men. It was a travesty of justice caused by one prosecutor's corrupt effort to win an election at the expense of three innocent people.

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Prosecutorial misconduct can have a devastating impact on the administration of justice by causing wrongful convictions of innocent people and must be carefully guarded against. Although Ms. Mangum's admission is long overdue, it does put the final layer of validation on the unequivocal innocence of these three fine men. Colin Finnerty left Duke and enrolled at Loyola College in Maryland.

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Dave Evans, who you heard there, had already graduated from Duke before he was officially charged, received an MBA from Wharton at the University of Pennsylvania in May of 2012. Reed Seligman enrolled as a student at Brown University in that fall of 2007 and was an important part of Brown reaching the 2009 NCAA lacrosse tournament as well as a number 10 national ranking.

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I believe one of them went on, I think it was Seligman, to law school hoping to practice criminal defense. We'll check that. I think one of them's in finance and I'm not sure what the third one's doing. Yeah, he went to Emory University Law School. Seligman did. So good for him. Taking that trauma and turning it around to actually save others from going through it is pretty noble.

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All of this is just so upsetting and it's so deeply immoral and the press has learned nothing. They're just as vile and disgusting and they do it over and over again. And so do officials who have no business trying to lead the public into thinking there's guilt when there isn't like Joe Biden when he was running for president saying Kyle Rittenhouse was a white supremacist.

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The irresponsible rhetoric from Barack Obama in in these cases, not to mention the entire leftist media. Whenever there is a black man on the wrong end of police in a violent confrontation, they they don't learn. They don't learn. which is one of the reasons why Leslie Stahl should not have been so confused in that clip we showed you yesterday where she spoke to Peggy Noonan about why.

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Why is it that the legacy media has died? She can feel it happening. Even she's acknowledging it of 60 Minutes. Why? This is why. You changed nothing. You learned nothing. You doubled and tripled and quadrupled down on the same sins. And we no longer trust you. In fact, we loathe you. Look at the way they covered Donald Trump's four indictments.

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And so I was young in my reporting career, but I had almost 10 years of legal practice under my belt as a litigator. So I was very used to looking at disputed fact patterns and being asked to make arguments to judges and juries and to behind the scenes, talk frankly with my own teams about what we believed was true. You know, you don't come into it with any superior knowledge as a lawyer.

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Look at the rogue DAs who indicted those cases to begin with. The left has learned nothing. There is no fixing them. There is only forging on without them. That's why shows like this were born. It's why the digital lane has taken off. It's not just all about swagger and good for us when we talk about it. It's because it was important.

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It's because necessity is the mother of all invention and we needed an honest press and didn't have one. It's journalistic Darwinism. Finally, I'm going to end with a nice story, a nice piece of this story. I mentioned it's one of the, this case is one of the reasons that I met my husband. So flashback to 2006, when this was all unfolding, I was going down to Durham. I was

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My husband, Doug, who I mentioned to you, went to Duke, saw me. I was Megan Kendall then. I was still using my first husband. I was her first husband, as you know. It ended amicably, but I still had Megan Kendall as my name. he saw Megan Kendall reporting on the Duke fake rape case from Durham. And he was interested in the case for obvious reasons.

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He had gone there, not, not that far in the past and wanted to keep up to date on what was happening and like the reporting. And as it turns out, like the reporter, a long story short, we were set up and I met him for a blind date and And the rest is history. We met in July of 06. And by September of 07, he proposed to me. And we were married in March of 08.

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And for me personally, it has an additional layer because this is the story on which I cut my teeth as a young reporter at Fox News. Many of you may remember that. I actually heard a lot of people, saw a lot of people tweeting at me and emailing us saying they do remember our coverage.

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And it's funny because one of our traditions is we go out once a year with our friends from New Jersey who we spend the summers with. And time after time, we would see family members. I've never actually met the three lacrosse players. I've never met one of them, but I've met their dads. I've met family members who will come up to me.

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And it used to always happen at this one restaurant we'd go to in New York on this celebration. And they were so profoundly thankful for what? Just honest coverage. That's it. I was not on the air every night saying they didn't do it. You know, I wasn't allowed to do that back then. Now I'm much more opinionated and able to share my opinion.

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But back then I was a straight news reporter and I would never have shared my actual opinion. I could only report the news honestly. And they were so grateful just for that, just for reporting the news honestly.

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You know, I gave you the one example, but there were a lot of them in that case where we bonged in on Hannity with a Fox News alert and set the cable news world on fire with our reporting there. And it's just a wrong, immoral thing where someone who's the target of those kinds of allegations has to be so deeply grateful for just honest coverage about the facts in their case. Anyway,

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Doug and I lived happily ever after, at least so far. Went on to have three wonderful kids who we adore. And that's my hope for these three guys, too. I don't know personally where their lives took them. They're all older now. They figured they were 20 when this happened to them 20 years ago. So they're probably all married with kids of their own and careers.

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You have what your client tells you. You have what you hear from opposing clients in depositions and in court. And you form your own judgment on what you believe. And if you can get to the actual truth, it's very helpful. You may argue it one way or another when you're actually in court, but you do your level best to figure out what did happen. And that's exactly how I approached this case.

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And it would be great if they'd come and talk about the lessons that they've learned. They've given a couple of interviews, but I'd love to hear... how this very negative experience has affected them positively.

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Because I bet you there's a whole bunch of things in that lane that would help the people who feel sorry for themselves today because they got a bad test grade or because somebody snubbed them, that they could learn from these guys who went through true adversity. Not exactly the way our soldiers do, but not totally dissimilar from the way our soldiers do. They went through their own kind of hell.

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and have been really great, fine, upstanding guys. So they're the heroes of the story. Mike Nifong's the villain of the story. Crystal Mangum, it's more complicated. I do believe there's something seriously wrong with her. I don't know if I'll use the term villain. I don't know what to say about her. Hers is a sad, sorry case. But in the end, at least this week, she finally did the right thing.

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Okay, before we sign off today, we did something really fun with the fellows from Ruthless the other day when they were here. We didn't air it because we wanted to save it for you guys this weekend. We got into their four and my one, the four of them, favorite Christmas movie. Tis the season, their hilarious smug does not disappoint in particular.

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But even I, who was not woke and who was a trained litigator, needed a warning on this case because I was still young. I was 33. No, 33 when I joined Fox. But by this time, March of 06, I was 35. And I'm going to confess, I saw the fact pattern. I was like, I could see it happening. I'm not so like jaded, certainly not by media.

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All right, I will kick it off and tell you I was very, very torn because I love, love, love watching this movie, Christmas in Connecticut. It was made in 1945. It stars Barbara Stanwyck. And the fun thing about this movie is she's basically a Martha Stewart type who writes like a home helper column in this popular magazine. But it turns out she's a fraud. She can't cook. She's not a homemaker.

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She doesn't know what she's doing. She's a city girl living in Manhattan wearing furs. The whole thing is fake. She's using this cook friend of hers to write all this stuff. And that's working out fine for her until the owner of the magazine, Alexander Yardley, which, by the way, is where I got my daughter's name from.

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I always tell you that bald old man in Christmas in Connecticut, he gets this idea of trying to honor and celebrate this World War Two hero who's just back from war, who really just wants a home cooked meal. And he wants his main writer to celebrate this guy at her Vermont farm by hosting him. But she is not married. She does not have a baby. She does not have a Vermont farm.

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And she, her editor, and this guy who does want to be her husband and happens to own a Vermont farm, talk her into a ruse where she pretends it's all happening and they have the guy come. And here's the scene in which they hatch the scheme.

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Catastrophic. So cute. And what I love about it, guys, is it's black and white. There's all these scenes in the snowy outdoors in a horse-drawn sleigh. And it's just the feeling, you know, that old-timey stuff, like, you're a lamb, gives me when I watch this. That makes me love it so much. So, okay. How about you guys? Who wants to go first?

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We've all been there at one point or another. All right. We'll do it this way. So I don't know what yours is, Ashbrook, but my team knows. Let's get into it by them playing some of your favorite Christmas music or movie. And we'll all find out together.

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I was barely in it, but, or by life that I could never see this happening. You know, lacrosse players. Uh, I know I love lacrosse players, truth be told, because I went to Syracuse and I dated the captain of the team that won three national championships there. And I knew a lot of these guys and they were great guys. They certainly weren't a bunch of rapists, but they liked to party.

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I love how he's like, sons of... He's swearing. It ends mid-word, which works. All right, so the team will show us now. What is Michael Duncan's favorite Christmas movie?

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Everyone loves it. Everyone's telling me to watch this. I've never seen it, Duncan.

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Oh, great tease. It's on. We may watch that tonight. Okay, I want to see here. I don't know what Comfortably Smug would pick. Neither do we. I can't wait to see. Okay, let's watch it.

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I, you know, it's just, The general atmosphere of debauchery did not seem impossible to me. And a bunch of guys really drunk at a party, who's to say it's impossible? So I wasn't ready to condemn them knee-jerk, but I also wasn't of the thought, no way. And Brit Hume put me on this case, who was my boss in the DC Bureau. He was the managing editor down there.

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All right. I mean, very tenuous link there, but I'll take it. I'll take it. Do you have two minutes additional or do you guys got to run? Sure.

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I just want to show you this. So I love Christmas in Connecticut. I love the way it makes me feel. I put it on and I just like wrap presents or do something like it's not something that I would always just be focused on every, every minute of the movie, but the movie I really need you to watch if you haven't seen it. And the movie I absolutely love is family man.

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Family Man stars Nicolas Cage and Taya Leone. And it is so good. The message is so good. The acting's so good. It's hilarious. It's a heart tugger. It's got all the elements in it. And it's so wonderful that I teed up the trailer because I really want you to see it, though it was made now almost 25 years ago. Watch.

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And there's this one scene in there where he says to her, I want us to have a life that people will envy. And they live in this small home in New Jersey. Their kids go to this public school that neither one is making any money. And she says, what they have is amazing marriage. They already do envy us, Jack. And like that right there, that's it. You know, it's like we get sucked into-

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you know, money or fame or some, some version of success that doesn't involve the real people who you surround yourself with, who you really love, who you're building a life with. And you, you forget about that, right?

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You forget that it's like the genuine love between you and your partner, hopefully like the feeling you have when you pick up your baby and smell his hair, you know, that that is the stuff of envy, you know, and it's a perspective setter. At the perfect time of year, right, when we get so materialistic about what matters.

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And it was getting a lot of traction, this case. And he said, you need to go to Durham and get boots on the ground, if you will, and start reporting and breaking news in this case. And I said, okay. And we talked about it. And I said, do you think they did it? And he said, what do you think? And I was like, maybe. Now, Britt had had a very different background than I did.

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Well, you could watch that, or you could watch the shoot-em-up-kill-em godfather with Fredo. It's your call. It's all about family. It's a personal preference situation. You guys are the greatest. Merry Christmas. Happy New Year.

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I love the fellas. The fellas are so great. What is your favorite Christmas movie? Megan at megankelly.com or just go to megankelly.com and you can sign up there for our once a week email. It's from me and my pal Meg storm who helps me put it together. And we collate all the best events that happened on the show that week. And it gives you the

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Britt had gone to, I believe, a private boys school, and he had sent his own son to a private boys school, for sure, in Virginia. And it was a feeder school for programs like Duke Lacrosse, by the way. And Britt had a very nice family background, maybe a little bit of prestige and connection. I didn't have any of that.

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Britt had an academic pedigree that was beautiful and a journalistic pedigree that matched. And Britt is a brilliant guy, as you probably all know. Very, very, very smart. And we used to joke in the D.C. Bureau about if Britt says it, it's right. Okay, I realize there are some people who are like, well, he didn't get Trump right. He was not a big fan of Donald Trump first time around.

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But nine times out of 10, Britt has his facts straight and his instincts when it comes to news judgment are spot on. So he said to me, be careful. You know, that deep voice he has, be careful. And I said, what do you mean? And he said, the media... senses something here that is not consistent with the Fox News mission. And he was talking about leaning into identity politics.

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Because it was not only a massive travesty of justice, almost, almost, but it was a massive travesty of journalism. And virtually everyone was sinful. I will be honest. I don't remember anyone other than yours truly and Dan Abrams. at Court TV at the time, reporting honestly on this case, reporting accurately on this case.

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Back then it was called more political correctness. And he said, that's not what we do at Fox News. And he said, go down there and keep an open mind. That was his sole directive to me. Keep an open mind. And honestly, that's all you had to do to get this story, right? That's all you had to do. And you know what?

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Not coincidentally, Dan Abrams, the other person who was getting it right and did get it right, went to Duke. My husband went to Duke. Um, and actually it's the reason that Doug and I got married. I'll explain that later. But anyway, so Dan went to Duke and he knew a lot of these guys too.

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And he and Britt with that background, they knew from their experience and exposure to guys like, no, these are not a bunch of gang rapists who happened to just get into Duke. And they were familiar with media narratives around privilege and white guys that were BS, right? So it was a very interesting... collection of those who got it right.

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And what saved me was my background as a litigator and Britt's advice. Okay, so I go down to Durham, North Carolina, and I was very determined to not only pursue the guys and their story, and I developed the best sources you could get on team defense, but also to pursue her, the accuser, and see if we couldn't find something, something exclusive, something more. And boy, did we ever.

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So we covered both angles of the story and had great sources. And I'll tell you one other reason why Britt had it right, my boss, and encouraged me. Because he sensed immediately this is a political story in addition to a legal one. Because what we had in the Duke case was a white district attorney who was up for re-election in an election year in, as I pointed out, a majority-minority district.

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So it was a chance to pander. It was a chance to say to the black residents of Durham, I'll get those privileged white pricks, even though I'm a white guy. And Britt read it. And we actually would later find out that Mike Nifong, if he could retire at

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this sort of higher level, if he could get reelected and he could retire at that level, he would have a much higher pension than he otherwise would. And so he had a personal stake in it, not just to get reelected, but also a personal financial stake in a way in pursuing this case and leading us to believe there really was one. This is the villain of the case. I mean, he's the biggest villain.

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Mike Nifong is the biggest villain involved here. And again, the reason we're covering this again is because the other main figure in making this case happen against these young men, Crystal Mangum, has now, for the first time in 19 years, admitted it was all a lie. We knew that. We just never heard her say it.

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And by the way, we just got reaction from one of the boys, and I'll read it to you in a minute, one of his lawyers. Um, so we go down to Durham, uh, my producer, uh, Jake Gibson, our photog and I, and we start working sources and it was insane. So many crazy things happened when I was down there. One night we were trying to find her. She was impossible to find. She had gone underground.

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She accused three boys of rape and she went completely underground. No one could find her. No one's even trying to find her cause they just wanted to believe her story and what we did to find her. I mean, we went into the strip club after strip club was hilarious actually. Because we'd walk in, we'd try to act like civilians so they wouldn't mark us as press.

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And I mean, we were two steps into the door of these facilities and they'd say, press. And my team looked at me and said, it's you. said, where are their bread and butter? They would never suspect us as press.

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Anyway, we had many funny conversations with these strip club owners where I got my fake strip club stripper name, where we asked the one guy, what, like, what do you think, what would my name be? If we, if we got up here and one of my guys said something like, how about sugar? And he said, white confectioner sugar, which is like the pasting of sugar there is. I don't think it was a compliment.

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Anywho, on we go. That's just one memory I have. She was sat down by the police and given a photo lineup of the Duke lacrosse team. That was her allegation. I've been gang raped by Duke lacrosse players. And so they gave her the Duke lacrosse roster, which is not an appropriate lineup at all. That's accepting that it was definitely somebody on the Duke lacrosse team.

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Any sane person at the police station would have put in non-Duke lacrosse players, plenty of them, into a bigger lineup and asked her to choose. Well, it turns out she failed even the stacked test that they gave her and was unable to identify anybody. And we would later learn that she went through it at least twice and was unable to identify anybody. And then under pressure...

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She selected one of the team's captains, Dave Evans, who was a senior, and two others. And Colin Finnerty and Reed Seligman were the other big losers of the Crystal Mangum guesses that day. That's Finnerty on the right with the yellow tie, Evans in the middle, and Reed Seligman on the left. Just so you know, they... They almost went to jail for 30 years.

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These three boys almost went to prison for decades. They would still be in prison right now if this woman had her way, if Mike Nifong, the DA, had his way. So the media went wild with it and started reporting the most vile details as though they were true. And I will give the media one crutch here in terms of my criticism of them falling down on the job.

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It is that Mike Nifong actively misled them in the community about what he knew and what he didn't know. He overstepped bounds that prosecutors should never overstep. You know how now the prosecutors are very loath to say anything about a case? They'll charge it, but they'll say, I'm not going to charge it in the press. It's not appropriate.

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The prosecutors are supposed to seek justice, not a conviction. There are exceptions. Hi, Fannie. Looking at you. Looking at you, sweetheart. There are exceptions like Fannie Willis. But It's in part due to the sins committed by Mike Nifong, who was out there. We pulled just a couple of them saying things like, we don't have a lot of him on camera, but I'll just read you some of what he said.

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I believe a crime occurred. The guilty will stand trial, and there's no doubt a sexual assault took place. The information I have leads me to conclude a rape did occur. It must be dealt with quickly and harshly. The circumstances of the rape indicated a deep racial motivation for some of the things that were done. Keep in mind, it's all fake, okay? We know now for sure.

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Totally fucking fake, made up stuff. And the DA is saying there was a rape with a deep racial motivation. It makes a crime that is by its nature, one of the most offensive and invasive, even more so to MSNBC. There's evidence of trauma in the victim's vaginal area that was noted when she was examined by a nurse at the hospital. I'm convinced there was a rape says to ABC local.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. He's been called the disruptor-in-chief, and that's exactly what Trump's tariffs are doing to the market today. False reports of a Trump tariff pause saw the Dow Jones Industrial Average erase a morning 1,700-point loss to go up

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And it affects virtually nothing because they don't buy from us. So it's almost just an exercise. Well, okay, it's like a thought exercise because compared to what we buy from them, they buy next to nothing from us. But today, they actually had the nerve to issue a retaliatory tariff after Trump's 34%. And Trump just issued this statement on Truth Social. He writes...

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Yesterday, China issued retaliatory tariffs of 34% on top of their already record-setting tariffs, non-monetary tariffs, illegal subsidization of companies, and massive long-term currency manipulation. Despite my warning that any country that retaliates against the U.S.

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by issuing additional tariffs above and beyond their already existing long-term tariffs, a tariff abuse of our nation, will be immediately met with new and substantially higher tariffs over and above those initially set. Therefore, if China does not withdraw its 34% increase above their already long-term trading abuses by tomorrow, April 8th, 2025, the U.S.

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will impose additional tariffs on China of 50%, effective April 9th. Additionally, all talks with China concerning their requested meetings with us will be terminated. Negotiations with other countries, which have also requested meetings, will begin taking place immediately. Thank you for your attention to this matter."

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So let's talk about China because, you know, the general thinking seems to be what's going to happen in North America is ultimately going to be done by deal between Trump, Canada and Mexico that, you know, he already struck a deal with them first time around and they'll probably strike another deal because we're all on the same continent and we have an interest in having healthy trading relationships with our upstairs and downstairs neighbors.

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Then there's Europe. which now is acting as a block, some 27 countries. And I think the general wisdom is that we'll reach a deal with them too, some sort of a deal, like maybe this is a negotiation to hit something better. So it's really about Asia. These tariffs are in large part about Asia. And China, the number one, where there's this huge disparity.

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And then when we hit them with tariffs last time around, they outsourced a lot of their manufacturing to some of these other Asian countries like Vietnam. We're like, oh, OK, we don't have to do it here. China said we'll do it in Vietnam. They're not subject to the new increased tariffs on us. So now Trump has included Vietnam and all these smaller Asian countries in his net.

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So I don't think it's any accident that he's making an example out of China with this truth, social post, uh, Victor. And I, I think he's right on because I think Americans understand on an inherent level that everything we buy was made in China. You can't avoid it. If you try your, you know, from food to toys to clothes, the electronics, you name it, they make it there. They

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I mean, it is a better place to go. It is not a guaranteed source of income. It can go up and it can go down, and we have volatility right now in our economy. So, you know, hold the line. Like, hold. Don't panic. Do not panic. That's actually what Trump is saying this morning. Don't panic.

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export it to America, and we pay through the nose for it. And now Trump's trying to right that balance by bringing American manufacturing back and decreasing our dependence on this country that hates us. Your thoughts on Asia and China and how that all plays in here.

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So we're going to talk about what's happening because these tariffs are having a greater effect on our market, at least, and we'll see what they do to our economy. But boy, he is getting such pushback now from establishment Republicans, the ones who didn't really want him.

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We were watching, you know, the usual suspects for the most part beat up on Trump. There are a few outliers. But what I am gleaning is that some of the people who are defecting from Trump on this plan are just giving him time to see how it works are people who are extremely heavily invested in the market. You know, it's like, OK, I get it. You're not his priority right now.

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He wants you to benefit, too, eventually. But right now he's doing something that he thinks long term could help the bottom half of the country. But they're not used to that, Victor. You know, I've been following Bill Ackman's X feed and he actually he had a post about you. tweeting directly to you saying you made a compelling case for the tariff strategy, but that you had one issue incorrect.

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He claimed that the Trump he describes the Trump tariffs as reciprocal and proportional to these other nations and what they've assessed on us. In actuality, the Trump tariffs were set at levels substantially above and in many cases at a multiple of the counterparty countries tariff levels and goes on, as Bill Ackman tends to do with a very, very long

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Well, I know what you mean, because I mean, there are some countries who they don't have a tariff on our goods necessarily, but we're just not allowed to sell our cars there. They've they've created such a like a green scheme that keeps us out that it's might as well have a hundred percent tariff.

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I mean, like I'll look, Elon's not a fan of the tariffs from what we're gleaning on Twitter, but Cora Maga so far seems to be still in Trump's corner. Establishment Republicans like the journal. They don't like the tariffs. We knew that. They also don't like the immigration reforms. We knew that. They also didn't want Trump. They wanted Nikki Haley. We knew that.

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Well, just to finish the point on Bill, so then by Sunday at 5 p.m., he called for a 90-day pause in the tariffs. So first he was, okay, I disagree with Victor a little, but he said we have to help Trump succeed is the least we can do. Then by Sunday at 5 p.m., the earlier exchange was Saturday. Mm-hmm. He called for a 90-day pause. We've got to pause it. We've got to pause it.

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The president's losing the confidence of business leaders around the globe. This is not what we voted for. Got to call a timeout. Then he followed up by saying, if you haven't noticed by now, I speak the truth regardless of the consequences to me personally or what other people think.

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Then by Sunday night, he was taking shots at Howard Lutnick, saying, I just figured out why he's indifferent to the stock market and the economy crashing. He and Cantor Fitzgerald, which he runs, are long bonds, meaning they profit when the economy implodes. It's a bad idea to pick a secretary of commerce whose firm is leveraged long, fixed income, an irreconcilable conflict of interest.

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By Monday morning, he was saying he had been unfair to Howard Lutnick. I don't think he's pursuing his self-interest. I'm sure he's doing the best he can for the country. I'm just frustrated watching what I believe to be a major policy error. Okay. So what, with all due respect to bill, I mean, I've seen this from quite a few very heavily invested people. There are,

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they're against this because they're watching their own fortune or the fortune of their company go up and down precipitously. They see these massive falls and they want to stop it. And I get that. But of course, you know, waiting it out long-term and letting things settle is what every investment advisor tells you to do. But separate and apart from that,

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They don't understand that this isn't about helping the Bill Ackmans of the world. It just isn't. And Republicans in particular are used to a president who is devoted to helping their pocketbooks. It goes back to the wisdom of my nana who lived to be 101.

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And when she saw I was working at Fox News and I was saying certain things on certain policies and starting to sound more right wing, she said, Republicans. She goes, we're we're Republicans are for the rich. We're not rich. We're Democrats. Right. That's that was my Nana's wisdom born in 1915. And she wasn't wrong.

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And I think there's still a very large portion of the party that is used to that being the basic approach.

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And Democrats who just want to hate Trump to hate him, they're all against him. But can we just hold on? Just hold on and don't let these Wall Street hotshots who live and die by a two-point market move dictate the wisdom of Trump's tariffs, which are a longer term strategy. Look, President Trump is far from panicking. He posted this morning on Truth Social, quote, the U.S.

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Well, on that point, on that point, here's let me just play this down. But it's for it's Scott Besson, our Treasury secretary, who sat down with Tucker last week and spoke to that a bit. Here it is.

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And that top 10%, Victor, as you know, includes all of the Acela Media, all these anchors on CNN, all these op-ed writers for the Wall Street Journal. Those are in the 88%. They are the ones who own the market.

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has a chance to do something that should have been done decades ago. Don't be weak. Don't be stupid. Don't be a panicking. It appears to be a new party name he's thrown out there. Oh, yeah. In fact, the follow up line is a new party based on weak and stupid people. Be strong, courageous and patient and greatness will be the result. So you heard it from the president.

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Don't be a panicking, panicking. We're going to get into it, plus more of our exclusive reporting on the Nashville School Shooters Journals, which we broke exclusively this morning on AM Update, which you should check later today after this show. I just want to tell you what happened there. We received an exclusive on the Nashville shooters manifesto from the FBI.

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We exclusively had permission to report on it, though not to post the documents. And we spent the weekend reviewing the over 1,000 of them. What we concluded, and it's outlined in Morning Update, which is on YouTube and on our podcast feed, is that we were misled by Nashville authorities last week who said, there's not one document called the manifesto.

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So we're just going to tell you, based on our reading of these thousand plus documents, what the motives here were. And guess what didn't make the dance? The shooter's trans ideology at all. at all. So we read through the documents and again, we've been misled. This woman was obsessed with trying to trans herself, wanting to trans herself, trans ideology. I mean, it was like reading

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That's sick. There's something deeply wrong inside the Democrat Party. This is not how Republicans talked about Joe Biden. Certainly not 55% of the Republican Party would be out there justifying murder. There's something wrong. There's a sickness. There's a cancerous illness bubbling up inside of their party.

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The assassination attempts on Trump, the burning of the Tesla facilities, the firebombing of the charging stations, they're not one-offs. The praise of Luigi Mangione, it's all connected. There's a theme because it is thematic. In describing the left today, I have to take a quick break. There's so much more with VDH and we'll pick it up right after this.

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Let's talk about that car you own but don't use. The one you're paying to keep registered and insured that's just sitting out there taking up space out front and it's not doing anybody any good. You have a choice. You can give Cars4Kids, that's cars with a K, a call and have them take care of it for you.

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Just give them the info and they will come to you as soon as the next day and take that car off your hands at no cost to you. Even better, they will turn that car into funds to help children. So visit carswithak4kids.org. That's carswithak and then the number 4 to donate. Or just call Cars for Kids directly at 1-877-CARS4KIDS and they will get that car picked up quickly.

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Plus, you can get a tax deduction and a vacation voucher. These guys have been around for 30 years. You've seen the ads, right? They've done this over a million times. Call now or head on over to KARS, K-A-R-S, the numeral four, and then kids.org slash MK right now to get this done. Karsforkids.org slash MK. That's Kars with a K. Welcome back to The Megyn Kelly Show.

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a leftist playbook on race, gender, and hatred for America. And now it's becoming really clear why this wasn't shared with us for two years. Well, we've seen it and we don't have the same agenda as the people making those decisions. And thanks to Kash Patel and his transparent efforts at the FBI, we will bring you the full report later today. We begin today with Victor Davis Hanson.

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On Friday night, we received more than 1,000 pages of writings by the Nashville school shooter, chilling journals that local officials in Nashville did not want you to see. The FBI sent the files to The Megyn Kelly Show, as well as to Congress, on the heels of a report from the Metropolitan Nashville Police Department last week that was severely lacking.

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Our team reviewed the documents created by the perpetrator of the March 2023 shooting that tragically took the lives of three children and three adults. The three children were third graders, age nine. The documents provide clear insight into the depraved mind of this killer.

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Critical context that was excluded from the 48-page report released last week, and that has been withheld from the public for two years. At one point, about a year plus ago, Stephen Crowder got his hands on three pages of which was great. It was something. Three pages out of a thousand they have been withholding for years, saying it's somehow too much for us to see.

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We've seen every other shooter's manifesto, rantings, writings. Why not this one? We here at The Megyn Kelly Show do not name school shooters, but due to the nature of this news, we will mention that the shooter's given birth first name is Audrey. However, in the years leading up to the horrific act, she instead went by the name Aiden and used he, him pronouns.

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On our AM update show this morning, that's another show we're doing now. It's a 15-minute news update for you in the mornings. You can get it on youtube.com slash Megyn Kelly or our podcast feed. We delved into some of the writings, and we will continue here. We'll repeat a couple, but we will add.

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Because the report from the Nashville police barely touched on the full scope and breadth of what was contained. The killer's struggles with her gender, her obsession with gender identity, alarming racial animus toward herself as a white person, and how those factors contributed to the act that she committed that day. Why do you think they excluded all of this?

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Why are those two things too hot to touch? The families of the victims do not wish for this information to be made public. We understand that, but we are sharing a sampling of necessary context omitted by the Nashville police, and that has been hidden for far too long from the public. The public has a right to know as a matter of safety in preventing more of these.

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The FBI has given us permission to say what is written, but not to show the actual documents. The journals contain many pages expressing the shooter's belief that she is a man and was born in, quote, the wrong body. In one entry dated April 12th, 2022, this is a year before the shooting, titled Let Kids Choose Their Sex,

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The killer writes, quote, how dare God hand me a training bra when I didn't know WTF it was as a kid. I hated it much more. I'd like to dispose my vagina. We should all choose our our gender.

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And I keep in mind, as you hear just these samplings, I'm going to read you that what the Nashville police represented was that her trans ideology, her gender confusion had absolutely nothing to do with a horrific act. She took from. How do you why? How do you glean that? This stuff is all over her writings. She's clearly deeply disturbed by it.

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But somehow that's the part you can excise from her motivation. Wrong. In another, she writes, quote, how does it feel to grow up the gender you were born with and are comfortable and happy with? Well, I don't know that feeling. I never did, you senseless people, that you don't know WTF comes out of your mouth telling me I'm female.

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over 800, only for the market to go back to a loss of over 800 when it turned out the rumor wasn't true. Currently at 12 noon on Monday, it is down 500 points back and forth. Look, you can't look. You can't look at it. I I'm sure we've lost a lot of money. My mom is on a fixed income. It doesn't matter the income level. You can't look at a moment like this.

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Female pronouns make me feel like I want to die, especially called woman. I never was, ever. I hate being in a woman's body. Need to die. But this had nothing to do with the act she took at Covenant School. In an entry marked June 6th, 2021, the killer writes, quote, Eric and Dylan, that's a reference to the Columbine killers, were gods.

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All those little dumb shits in other school shootings during the 1990s were not gods, just cowards. Even if maybe they had a reason, they left it a mystery. I realized that after knowing Columbine, I immediately became attached to it. Not just the notorious outcome, but the preceding evidence leading up to it. I feel I am the reincarnation of Dylan Klebold.

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He's a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution and author of the book, The End of Everything, How Wars Descend into Annihilation. What are you doing this Easter to celebrate with your family?

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My thoughts of depression are forever linked to his and my experience as well. In a diary entry shortly after that, the killer writes about how epic it would have been if she had shot up her own high school. Quote, kill all the white kids, kill my own race. F yes, destroy all the white people who are teachers. Let all the black kids go unless if I don't like you.

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About a month later, the killer writing several pages about why black pain is different from, quote, white pain. Quote, black people were given fate, given nothing, while white people get power in the White House, have all the privileges, even to white people like me. White people are born with privileges. Black people aren't. Black people always had to earn and fight for their needs and wants.

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It was like that in history. It's like that now. The killer goes on, quote, being white sucks, but being black is so cool. Black people should rule. White people should fall. Every white person who lived and died, I hate you all. July of 2022, the killer writes about wanting another therapy session but not having the money. Quote, I need to have another session with my therapist. I need her.

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It's been two months. I don't deny needing help. I loathe the reality of my fate as an autistic, dependent 27-year-old. Later on in the journal, three pages that appear to have been printed and affixed into the journal, titled in all caps, I HATE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. The killer writing America was doomed from the very beginning, quote, America started with slavery and white people ruling land.

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Black people were objects and owned by white landowners and farmers from the start of July 4th, 1776. There are no African-American rights. Slavery is still happening. It goes on, quote, government agencies have all the freedom, white people who want to take away instead of adding more. What do you call that? America is not the land of the free. It's a land full of idiots.

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It will only get worse in this country, not near enough gods like me. America and its people all destined to soon be destroyed. The entry sign, quote, I hate you all, Aiden.

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The journals outline more ideas about how animals are better than people, about how she hates life, she hates money, and a wishlist for the day of the attack involving hopes of, quote, lots of blood, lots of victims, 20 plus dead. Sick, sick stuff. Back with me now, Victor Davis Hanson. I'm sorry, Victor, but nothing in there makes it too dangerous to release.

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This is apart from the fact that it's completely in line in the ways that I just read with what leftist schools and leftist thought is pushing right now in American children. There's nothing especially... controversial about this versus manifestos we've seen in other cases. So why wasn't this released for two years, either by the local authorities in Nashville or by the FBI under Joe Biden?

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And why, when the Nashville cops finally released some 48-page summary of the 1,000 pages last week, did they specifically- dissect the gender ideology as not a causal relationship with the act she committed. Not the gender, not the race craziness she'd suffered. This wasn't a racial crime, but I'm just saying all the inconvenient sicknesses get excised as the reasons.

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And it took Trump's FBI to submit this thing to us and also to Congress for us to have a clear airing of what was behind this woman's sickness, sick mind, and what caused her to do this horrendous act.

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I read this before, but my friend's son, elementary school son, I think he was in fourth grade when this was written. It could be third or fourth. And she pulled him from this school. And it was the same school we pulled our kids from. But he was asked to write something up in school. And the question was, what would you teach people about, I guess, if you could teach? And he wrote the following.

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It's short. The event I would teach people about is slavery. The reason I think it's important to teach people about this event is so then we can see that America was built on black people, not on whites. Behind the scenes, it's all black. The reason we have picked crops, built houses, and America is because black people did it all.

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The only thing white people did was take credit for the work they didn't do. As a white person, I stand with black people all the way. This is a sweet boy, and he has absolutely no animus at all inside of him, but they're curating it. He's clearly been spoon-fed this same diet, and he had loving parents who said, oh, no, you don't.

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They're filling these kids' heads with hate. This Audrey's head was filled with hate, self-loathing, loathing of her country, loathing of her race, loathing of her gender. I mean, it was severe.

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And while she did wind up going to see her therapist there—you heard a reference to it—and the mother urged the therapist to see her, and they came up with a plan to take away her guns because she was obsessing over killing her own father— she wound up going and getting a gun anyway. And that's what she used to kill all these poor little students and their teachers in Nashville, Tennessee.

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And I, you know, I asked myself, why would the Nashville police officers be trying to scrub the record for us? You know, like I, I kind of get Biden's FBI, but I don't really get, but you know, Kamala Harris won Nashville, Nashville, just because it's in Tennessee, doesn't make it right wing or Republican. It's not.

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And, you know, I think there is a there's probably somewhat of a shared instinct to take out the most incendiary social hot buttons from the full explanation of what was in this person's head. You know what? Maybe maybe in some people's mind they are totally unrelated. I don't see how you make that argument. But the point is, it's not for the Nashville police to scrub the record of

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of the evidence of what she was obsessing over before she took the lives of six innocents. That is not okay. That's not what we've been doing in these school shootings. And I say good for Trump's FBI for being honest while trying to be respectful of the families. They didn't blast it everywhere. But we have to have an honest account of when these things happen.

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Angel.com slash Megan. VDH, welcome back. The meltdown on the establishment right and the Trump hating left over the volatility caused by Trump's change in tariffs. is everywhere. Good luck tuning into a podcast, a television show, picking up a paper without being told how terrible these decisions are and how Trump doesn't know what he's doing. You actively have to work to find somebody like you

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It's all on the list, the self-hatred, the white hatred, the hatred of country. It's just, it's all there. It's all there. I appreciate you walking through it with me. And again, to the listening audience, you can check out the AM Update for updates. other recitations. It is not, as I pointed out on that show, our habit to read manifestos of these school shooters.

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I take no joy in repeating their thoughts and their crazed musings. But given what's been done in this case and how it's not available anywhere else, I felt we had no choice. And it was the last responsible move to make on this. Anyway, moving on. The

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Many of the same people who went through those types of adult educations or K through 12, even if they're younger, were out on the streets this weekend in protest of, I don't really understand, to be honest. It's like the Cory Booker speech. No one really knows what exactly they're protesting.

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Just, they want you to know they're angry and hands off, which seems like a better slogan for the Me Too movement than whatever this, what do you mean? Hands off, she's wearing the Statue of Liberty. outfit, or is that a he? Forgive me, madam. It's difficult to tell. And there was plenty of that weird mania on the streets at these protests too, Victor. I'm going to give you one that has it all.

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Here's a taste of what we heard from these, I don't know, how many groups, 150 groups at various protests, the hands-off protests this weekend. Take a listen to SOT8.

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The meltdown, though, about... Trump's alleged excesses. Elon's a different story. I know we'll see, but. The Trump alleged successes are interesting to me. They're interesting to me because people who you and I both know and like are joining in on some of that.

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who says, let me tell you another way of looking at this and try to disabuse some of these establishment types of their very, very well-held wisdom. So VDH, your thoughts on the tariffs?

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You know, your old pals and my pals too at National Review have been very critical of Trump, the deportations, taking people to the El Salvadorian prison, his crackdown on a couple of law firms saying, you know what, you're no longer, the federal government doesn't want to do business with you, Perkins Coie. You who unleashed through Hillary campaign spying and Russiagate on me.

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I don't actually think the federal government should be doing business with you. And same for you, Paul Weiss, who rushed to hire the one guy who made it his mission to prosecute me when he worked for Alvin Bragg. And when Alvin Bragg wouldn't prosecute me, wrote a whole book about how I should be prosecuted.

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And ultimately, Tish James took up the mantle and sued me and got an award for $500 million bankrupting or threatening to my company. Trump said, you know what? I don't think the federal government should be in business with these two particular law firms.

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Well, my friends in National Review, who are honest brokers, wrote very, very critical pieces saying that's basically a bill of attainder and that, you know, we're shipping off people without to a to a jail without having them tried and convicted on criminal charges. Yeah. And so that's what they're talking about. They thought this is fascism. This is not us.

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And this guy, I don't lump in with the national review crew, but he is a lawyer and, Um, he is definitely a Trump hater and he is starting to lose it over in the case of Paul Weiss, that one of those law firms, they bet the knee to Trump and said, we'll do whatever you want us to do. Please don't do this to us. And Trump got his way. And half of Paul Weiss is just apoplectic. Now they're very sad.

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Paul Weiss, uh, one of the founding partners, two grandchildren wrote this scathing letter. Like our grandpa would never have wanted this shame on you. And here is George Conway, formerly married to Kellyanne Conway and a respected lawyer, along with Sarah Longwell, who I believe is also a lawyer and his partner on his podcast, talking about the legal profession and Trump.

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Literally in tears. But I heard none of that when they unleashed the lawfare campaign against Trump, Victor. Those norms don't count when we're summing up the norm breaking.

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Right. It's like Trump's not trying to throw these guys in jail. Trump's saying these don't seem like respectable law firms to me. One saw a man who tried to throw me in jail unjustly and said, that's the guy for us. Let's hire it. Let's run and hire him. That's one of the things that Paul Weiss did. And so they made this bed themselves. I mean, Paul Weiss is a very political firm.

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It's full of Democrats. They decided to get political. They understood that they might alienate someone like Donald Trump. They just didn't bank on him becoming president again and having power. And so I don't see anything wrong whatsoever with what Trump is doing to them. And I think they did the right thing in caving. And who gives two figs what the granddaughters of the founder thinks?

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They don't have to save the firm. The head of the firm has to save the firm and save the client base and, of course, save their fat cat salaries and their private school tuitions that they're paying. Like he has to be practical about this because they made some very bad decisions prior to the moment Donald Trump did that. But George Conway will not cry about any of that.

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He will not cry about the weaponization against Donald Trump because he was for it. So spare me, spare me.

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that Trump believes they did. It's not a mystery. It's not even something in dispute that the hiring of this employee either happened or didn't happen. It did happen. It's knowable. Perkins Coie's role in Russiagate is very well documented up and down the record. It's known. There's no need for a trial. And it's not guilt as a criminal matter either. Go ahead, Victor.

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Chris joins me now. Chris, thank you for being here. I'm so sorry this has happened to your love. So just to get the chronology right, it was 2022 she made this $51 donation. It was 2023 that Putin upgraded the penalties for treason, making it punishable by life in prison. So this was what we call ex post facto.

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After the fact of her alleged treason, which was the donation, he decided to make this crime illegal. punishable by life in prison. Then in January of 2024, she went over there completely not expecting any trouble from the Russian government. She's got dual citizenship, but suddenly found out she was very, very wrong about that assumption.

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So he held onto her cell phone and it was on her Venmo receipts that they saw she had made this donation while in America as an American citizen. 50 bucks to help children and the elderly displaced by the Ukraine war. And they said that that was in fact a, a $50 donation to pay for weapons and

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Mm hmm. So, yeah, originally they said they arrested her for hooliganism, as you pointed out, and then they upgraded the charge to state treason. So she's been slapped with this crazy charge of treason. She's just there to see her grandmother and she gets a Russian lawyer, which I imagine one has to do in order to fight charges by the Russian authorities. And so how did that happen?

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And did she not have any counsel, you know, back from the States to help guide her through this process?

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Was there any other evidence against her that they used, or did it all boil down to this $151 payment?

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So what do we know? I mean, those Russian prisons are no joke. What do we know about the conditions in which she's being held?

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I know that you've tried to move heaven and earth. This is an incredibly difficult problem to solve.

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You're you're supposed to be in this market for a long term. Pay off if you're a younger person. And if you're an older person, you're also not supposed to sell when the market drops precipitously off of an event like tariffs. That's generally what they say. So looking is just bad for the soul and ultimately the pocketbook for many, many people. That's a general rule.

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Do you have I heard that you were in touch with Steve Witkoff, President Trump's envoy, which would be excellent. I mean, he's empowered. We definitely can put you in touch with Rick Grinnell, too, and we can be in touch with him. But do you what's the messaging right now from the administration?

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He's trying to get a war resolved, but that doesn't mean it won't happen. I'm sure you felt the change of fortunes when the talk about each other and about resolving this conflict got worse, but that doesn't mean it won't happen. We just need to make sure she stays in their focus. And I'm sure... you know, I'm sure that they're aware. There's no way.

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I mean, President Trump is not the kind to leave an American behind over there, especially Ballerina, who's in jail for treason because she gave a $50 donation to the Ukrainians. I mean, it's just, it's outrageous on its face. I wish I could say it could appeal to Vladimir Putin and, you know, his sense of justice on this. I don't think that's going to work.

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So I promise I will call attention to this segment, to my administration contacts, and we'll hope for the best. I feel your pain. This is deeply, deeply wrong. She's lucky to have you, Chris.

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And I believe he could get Ksenia home too. I want to tell the audience again, it's Free Ksenia. The way that's spelled is K-S-E-N-I-A. Free K-S-E-N-I-A dot com. Free Ksenia dot com. To learn more and... donate if you feel inspired to try to help Chris in his quest to get his love back home and out of a terrible, terrible place where she does not belong. Chris, thank you.

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All the best. Wow. Jeez. Stuff like this happens. And, you know, what I was saying I think is really true. Now Trump's in a tough position. He's negotiating for something that involves, you know, many, many lives. And that's unfortunate, right? Because in a calmer time, her life would get more priority.

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But, you know, President Trump got Mark Vogel home, even though he was trying to negotiate the end of the Ukraine war. And I think he can get Ksenia home too. I think Putin will let her go. I just don't think Putin's going to let this dual citizen, young ballerina stay in a Russian jail for 12 years. I actually don't think he will. But it's got to be made a priority and we have to stay on it.

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So we'll do that together tomorrow. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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Um, and hopefully you've got a financial advisor telling you exactly what to do because, you know, people who just want to play the market, like they're in a casino. Okay. I guess you should look, but somebody was just recirculating an old Trump quote. Cause he used to own a casino in Atlantic city. You know, there's no crying in the casino. The, the market is is like a casino.

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The Chinese, that's a special case. And it's amazing, like the disparity in terms of what they import to us versus what we import to them. And, you know, people have been talking about, well, Trump really added a lot of tariffs on them, 37% on top of the pre-existing tariffs that were already there under Trump 1.0 that Biden claimed to hate but then kept in place.

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On Sunday, The Guardian exclusively reporting the details of how the mishap allegedly took place, citing three sources within the White House. And it sounds similar to what Mr. Walsh said. The Guardian reporting NSA Walsh, quote, mistakenly saved Mr. Goldberg's number months before under the contact of someone else he intended to add.

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Jeffrey Goldberg had emailed a member of the Trump administration about a story he was working on. Trump spokesperson Brian Hughes forwarded the content of that email, including Jeffrey Goldberg's signature block containing Mr. Goldberg's phone number to NSA walls.

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The Guardian reporting, quote, according to the White House, the number was erroneously saved during a contact suggestion update by Walz's iPhone, which one person described as the function where an iPhone algorithm adds a previously unknown number to an existing contact that it detects may be related. The White House did not officially comment on the story.

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Mr. Goldberg saying, quote, I'm not going to comment on my relationship with Mike Walz beyond saying I do know him and have spoken to him. Tonight, the Florida Gators take on the Houston Cougars in the NCAA March Madness Final. On Saturday, the Gators beating the Auburn Tigers 79-73 in their Final Four matchup.

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The Cougars overcoming a 14-point trail in the final eight minutes of the game, beating the Duke Blue Devils. I don't want to talk about it. Cooper, Tyrese, what happened? Tip-off is tonight at 8.50 East. Hope your bracket's still intact. That'll do it for your AM update. I'm Megyn Kelly.

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Join me back here for The Megyn Kelly Show, live on SiriusXM Triumph Channel 111 at noon East, on YouTube.com slash Megyn Kelly, and on all podcast platforms.

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Moreover, they appear to have been mischaracterized by Nashville authorities last week. We here at The Megyn Kelly Show do not name school shooters, but so as not to confuse listeners, we mention here that the shooter's birth name was Audrey. She was female.

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This same set of journals also sent to the House Intel Committee, whose chairman received a letter from the FBI reading, quote, Director Patel is leading the FBI toward increased transparency with Congress in order to restore trust, and we hope these documents assist in that regard. The documents, more than 1,000 pages, contain minimal redactions.

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The FBI says only were necessary to protect identifiable details of other individuals and or sensitive information. Over the weekend, the Megyn Kelly team reviewed these documents. We have permission to report on but not post them. The information contained within the pages is dark, deranged, and newsworthy. It provides clear insight into the depraved mind of the killer.

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Critical context excluded from the 48-page report released last week by the Metropolitan Nashville Police Department and withheld now from the public for two years. Within the Nashville report, acknowledgement of an autism diagnosis, mentions of writings retrieved from journals, and the killer's feelings. The

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Monday, April 7th, 2025, and this is your AM Update. We begin this morning with a Megyn Kelly exclusive. We have, at long last, obtained the chilling journals kept by the Nashville Covenant school shooter. The journals local officials did not want you to see. A look inside the mind of a killer.

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The Nashville report briefly references the killer's desire to transition genders, but notes she had not yet done so. It says she began using the name Aiden and he, him pronouns in the years prior to her death. And that is all it says about her gender obsession.

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No detailed psychological analysis, no exploration of the killer's gender struggles, feelings of racial animus, or of how those factors contributed to the slaughter. The families of the victims do not wish for this information to be public, nor do we typically spend much time quoting killer manifestos.

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However, the public's interest in understanding the full motivation behind this act compels its publication. What follows is a carefully selected portion of the killer's writings shared solely to provide the necessary context omitted by Nashville police and hidden from the public for two years.

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On March 27, 2023, the killer entered the Covenant Presbyterian Church and school just after 10 a.m., killing three third-grade children aged nine and three adults before police fatally shot her. Nashville police initially acknowledged recovering journals from the killer's vehicle at the school, though declined to release the contents, citing the ongoing investigation.

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In their final report, Nashville police write, quote, The Nashville report goes on to conclude a true manifesto is a single document outlining all of the factors motivating the event. Because the killer did not leave behind a single document, but rather a trove of documents, the Nashville report picks and chooses from the killer's writings, purporting to summarize them, omitting critical details.

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Nationwide protests against Elon Musk and the Trump administration spring up throughout the weekend. Is this organic or astroturfed? And new Signalgate details reveal how a controversial journalist might indeed have ended up in that group chat. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update. Now more than ever, it's important to shop with brands that share your values.

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and sugarcoating the killer's struggle with her gender identity as if it were irrelevant. In fact, the killer is highly focused on gender identity. In November 2023, radio host Stephen Crowder published three pages of the document we reviewed, received from an anonymous source.

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Those pages revealing a timeline for the planned attack and messages expressing resentment against white people and their privilege. The killer herself was white. The notebooks dating from 2020 until just days before the attack in 2023.

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One of the final pages reading, quote, I have to kill so I can be remembered in the most horrific way possible that no one will ever forget the end, end quote, signed Aiden, the killer's preferred male name. The pages detail a deeply disturbed individual planning meticulously over years to carry out a mass shooting and then kill herself.

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The killer discusses her autism diagnosis, race, and her desire for, quote, black love and acceptance, as well as her hatred of her own whiteness. Many of the writings are sexual in nature, expressing frustration with her virginity. The killer scribbling lots of information about guns and her training with firearms.

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Other school shootings, well documented within the pages, in particular, references to the gods who committed the Columbine school shooting. The words dark abyss consistently pop up, whether a direct reference or scribbled into the margins, accompanied by an image resembling a radioactive symbol.

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The logo created by the killer to represent her all-consuming depression and commitment to gaining notoriety. via a mass shooting. The journals contain many pages expressing the killer's belief that she was a man and was born in the wrong body. In one entry dated April 12, 2022, titled Let Kids Choose Their Sex, the killer writes, quote,

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I only wore some nice girl clothes as a cover-up from the truth, which I denied myself all these years, and I hated all of it. It was miserable being raised a girl because I had no choice. There was lack of education research and medicine to help society or parents better understand transgender. ¶¶ I'm mad that no one told me until I was 22. I feel I'm too old and too late to become a man.

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Now the process takes months to years. By the time that happens, I'm 30. And then 10 years later, I got a bald spot on my head and look like an old man. Hell no. It's best to start at 16 for shots. But my youth is over, way past now. And it's over, over. How dare God hand me a training bra when I didn't know WTF it was as a kid. I hated it. Much more, I'd like to dispose my vagina.

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We should all choose our gender. The next page is titled Trans Man. The killer writes, quote, I knew I was a boy the moment first memories and development formed. Being a tomboy wasn't a phase. Parents forced children into which the way they were biologically born.

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I don't care what authority says, but no adult is fair when they don't let their children want to choose being a boy or girl because they think children don't know anything. The title of the following page is, quote, F me, where the killer writes, quote, how does it feel to grow up the gender you were born with and are comfortable and happy with it? Well, I don't know that feeling.

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I never did use senseless people that you don't know. WTF comes out of your mouth telling me I am female. Female pronouns make me feel like I want to die, especially called woman. I never was ever. I hate being in a woman's body. Need to die. The next page is called Killer List, and it is a list of the killers from Columbine, Sandy Hook, Parkland, D.C.

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Snipers, Jeffrey Dahmer, Tim McVeigh, Jim Jones and others. Around the names, hand-drawn images of guns and bloody knives. Later on in the journal, three pages that appear to have been printed and affixed into the journal titled, I Hate the American People. In it, the killer writes, quote, white people who want to take away instead of adding more. What do you call that?

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America is not the land of the free. It's a land full of idiots. It will only get worse in this country. Not near enough gods like me, America and its people, all destined to soon be destroyed. The entry signed, quote, I hate you all, Aiden. After she killed six people, the shooter herself was killed by police.

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We will have more of the disturbing writings of the Nashville killer on The Megyn Kelly Show later today, and we'll fully contextualize them all. Coming up, a weekend of nationwide protesting against Elon Musk and the Trump administration, a grassroots movement, or a highly coordinated left-wing activist campaign?

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Rallygoers across the nation all appearing to conform to similar talking points.

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The event, officially billed as Hands Off, a highly coordinated campaign organized by more than 150 left-wing activist groups. The ACLU, the Women's March, Move On, Democratic Socialists of America, Planned Parenthood. all working together, quote, in opposition to Trump and Musk's attempts to steal our public services and our democracy.

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Progressive activist group Indivisible playing a significant role in organizing the events. If that name sounds familiar, the organization is also responsible for coordinating the protests at GOP town halls in recent weeks.

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Those raucous town halls also picked up by fawning media and portrayed as organic events. You see how it works? Next will be the opinion polls showing how Elon's and Doge's popularity are falling.

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In reality, many of these events, whether town halls or hands-off events across the country, are coordinated with help from Indivisible, the leftist organizing group founded by activists Ezra Levin and Leah Greenberg in the wake of Donald Trump's 2016 election.

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the group growing into a powerful network with chapters across all 50 states, accepting more than $7.6 million in total from George Soros' Open Society Foundations. They've got cash and are ready to spend it. New reporting about how National Security Advisor Mike Walsh accidentally added a reporter to a private group chat on Signal.

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Editor-in-Chief Jeffrey Goldberg of The Atlantic generating a media frenzy with an article titled, The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Me Its War Plans. Mr. Goldberg reporting he was accidentally included in a chat with high-level intel officials discussing the merits of assaulting the rebel group in Yemen.

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Despite many calls for resignations and firings, President Trump, standing behind his national security team, determined not to give the media the satisfaction of a scalp. Reports that President Trump was more irritated that a member of his team appeared to have Trump antagonist Jeffrey Goldberg as one of his contacts than he was at the mistake of adding him to the Signal group chat.

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National Security Advisor Waltz maintaining that Goldberg was not one of his contacts. So you've never met Goldberg.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and happy 2025. We are back with our first live show of the year. I've missed all of you over the past two weeks. While I spent some quality time with my family, I hope you had some with yours as well.

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And then my brother-in-law Ken was Biff, which I got him a fake muscle shirt to wear, which I don't think he appreciated. So anyway, it's so important to get out and do things like that, right? It just, it's so clarifying to spend time with your family away from work. Even though I love my work, it's clarifying to spend time away from it.

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I love everything you just said. So much has gone down over the past couple of weeks and just today, as you point out, Trudeau, which we'll get to. But I was just sticking for a second on the FBI and its bungling messaging around what happened in New Orleans, which was indeed a terrorist attack, says as follows at National Review.

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We are being tormented by the FBI's habitual woke incoherence regarding this atrocity. There should be no hesitancy. This is maddening.

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And I have to say, it makes me feel, it makes me better at my job because when I come back, though, I admit I am currently slightly under the weather with a cold, no big deal. Um,

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But in the FBI, as it has evolved since the Obama era, he says an acknowledgement by the bureau that an attacker may have been radicalized by fundamentalist Islam would implicitly concede that there is something about that ideology that inspires violent attacks against infidels. Can't have that. They're not willing to go there.

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And that, of course, explains why they're moving on immediately, the media as well, from New Orleans. But let's talk about the UK, because this rape scandal of children at the hands of immigrants is...

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That's been covered up, was covered up for years and years and years, allegedly in part because they were concerned that the the rapists, the alleged rapists were Pakistani and they didn't want to be seen as picking on immigrants or going against people of color and accusing them of rape.

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at the expense of the well-being and safety of children, may be the most pernicious and disgusting example of this woke ideology and this fear of upsetting or offending any person of color or any Muslim that I've seen in decades, Ben. What's happening in the UK is a deep, disgusting scandal.

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I feel more clear headed because as the news events hit over the past couple of weeks, you just have a better perspective on them when you're grounded, when you're with people you love and who love you, when you are part of nature and get better connected to it. And you can kind of see, oh, this is worth fighting over. Oh, this isn't. This is bullshit. This isn't. That kind of thing.

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This is the Christopher Hitchens thing, Ben. This is the Christopher Hitchens prediction come to life, right? Who was out there in, I think, 2009 saying, we have got to call out what's happening in London and elsewhere with the infiltration of this ideology before it's too late. And if we wait too long, all we're going to hear is you're Islamophobic.

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That's Islamophobia, as opposed to reckoning with the real facts, which is this is not just a religion. This is an ideology that means to conquer.

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Okay, so let's get to it. We've got two of the best guests in the industry in America to bring you different perspectives today. We're going to kick it off in a minute with Ben Shapiro, and then Glenn Greenwald comes up in our second hour. How about that for a We're Back show?

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That's exactly right. And we could see it happening. I mean, when Angela Merkel was chancellor of Germany, she opened the borders. There was a massive influx of immigrants who culturally were about as different from Germans as you could get and shamed anybody who pushed back against it as an Islamophobe, as a xenophobe, as a bigot. And now they're dealing with the real life consequences of that.

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Eventually, the people find their voices and say, well, I don't want this. It's one thing. And by the way, we've had plenty of time since then to figure out whether these people want to assimilate or not. Right. They want to pretend that every immigrant, whether it's Germany, Canada, the UK, France.

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or the United States, is akin to the Irish and Italians who came to America in the early 20th century. That they just want a new life and that they're going to adopt the local culture and, you know, it's melting pot. It's not so. And you're seeing examples like what we saw in the UK, not to mention, look at Ayaan Hirsi Ali. You know, she's obviously one of the greatest thinkers alive.

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Warning in her book, Pray, P-R-E-Y, about what's happening to women and young girls in these European countries as a result of these immigrants. And one by one, these leaders are starting starting to fall, Ben. I mean, you tell me whether it actually leads to a change in thinking on the left akin to what we're seeing the left sort of wrestle with in the wake of the Trump victory.

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We have got to cover this tragic terror attack, which killed 14 people in the early morning hours after New Year's in New Orleans. We're still learning more about the man who committed the act. And then a couple hours after that, a Green Beret blew himself up in a Tesla Cybertruck outside of the Trump Hotel in Las Vegas.

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They were foreseeable, and they were completely ignored as actual risks, as were all the risks that were being raised by the right as we saw open borders take hold in country after country during the time of Obama. What's happening up in Canada... may or may not be part of the same wave. I mean, there's so many problems with the way Justin Trudeau has run Canada. It's hard to really pick the one.

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But as of today, Justin Trudeau says he will resign as prime minister as soon as the Liberal Party elects a new leader. He says his successor will be selected after a nationwide process, which means the Liberal Party will take the lengthier route of choosing a new leader through a grassroots process. It could take several weeks. It means he could be in power.

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for the first several weeks, even potentially months of Trump's presidency, and may have to navigate the imposition of tariffs and so on. But Justin Trudeau has turned himself into a punchline. He is, when I picture effete, feckless man, I picture Justin Trudeau. I couldn't think of somebody less attractive to me as a woman than that man. I can't stand the sight of him.

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I'm thrilled our friendly neighbors in our evil top hat, as Michael Knowles calls Canada, have come to their senses and effectively forced him to this decision. So what do you make of it?

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A bizarre story that does not appear to be related to the terror attack across the country in New Orleans, though at first people thought perhaps they were related. Today, however, we have to start with the fact that it's January 6th and they are literally treating it on the left like it is 9-11. It is ridiculous. I mean, it's got an actual function.

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It's Trudeau's Canada that produced Melody Wiseheart, the 50-year-old man who's being allowed to swim with 12-year-old girls because he identifies as a 12-year-old girl, which is weird because he drives his car to and from the swim meets, which we all know a 12-year-old girl would not be allowed to do.

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And by the way, he changes his clothes and gets fully nude in the locker room with the girls and the parents, I don't understand my Canadian friends, allow it. I'll give you this. Canadian podcaster and mortgage broker, Ron Butler. I've got all sorts of contacts up there, Ben, because I got staffers up in Canada who says as follows.

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This is on X. The prime minister decides to go and Canada says, thank God. No witch hunts, no matter how angry people are at the PM. Once he's gone, leave him alone, move on, but never forget. Never forget the horrible management of the country. Never be fooled again by a candidate offering sunny ways. Never buy into theater.

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Never again think a totally unqualified person is fine to leave the country. That was a bullet we just dodged here in America too. Don't listen to a man claiming to be a feminist who betrays and fires every woman who ever disagrees with them. Don't believe that people who act woke all the time won't cost average working people dearly. And finally he says, Never forget incompetence.

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Because we have had the stupidest waste of taxpayers' money in the history of Canada. Therefore, once Trudeau is gone, we must punish the Liberal Party with a massive election loss. Lessons must be taught. Now, if that worm turns in Canada and Pierre takes over, it is a new era. ball game, Ben Shapiro.

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It's the day that the 2024 election will be officially certified. But it is more importantly to the corporate media, the day that they will celebrate their favorite anniversary to smear all Trump supporters. And again, to treat this day as though it does live in infamy akin to that of 9-11 or Pearl Harbor. We'll show you an example.

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Here he is. Our audience may remember this, but this is sort of how we first came to see this guy. Like, who is this wonderful man when he was eating the apple and the antagonistic media reporter was trying to get him and compare him to Trump, and he just wasn't having it. He was just stone cold. He is the opposite in every way as a man, as a politician of Justin Trudeau. Watch.

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He's just, the guy's unflappable and just doesn't tolerate fools. It's just a, it's a beauty. I feel like even the Canadians who are allowing Melody Wisehart to swim in the 12-year-old races. See, he's a gopher. He's officially a gopher. That's what they call the league. Even those Canadians have got to see him now that the field is being cleared and say, eh, maybe it's worth a try.

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Joining me now for our very first show of 2025, we begin with Ben Shapiro, host of The Ben Shapiro Show on The Daily Wire. Grand Canyon University, a private Christian university in beautiful Phoenix, Arizona, believes that we are endowed by our creator with certain unalienable rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

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Okay, one of the controversies that I missed while I was out was the intra-GOP fight over H-1 visas, H-1B visas, where we bring over immigrants and we allow them to work at a decent wage over here, largely in tech, data processors and engineers work.

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who the tech industry has used prolifically, who Elon defends, Vivek defends, but people like Steve Bannon and our friend Batya Angersargan, who writes for Newsweek and is much more focused on the working class, has said... They don't want that we've had enough of this, that these are jobs Americans would take with proper training and so on. And here's the thing that stood out to me.

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Trump sided with Elon and Vivek basically saying he's always been for these visas. Here's the thing that stood out to me. The Vivek Ramaswamy ex-post on December 26th. I think I can bring this to you as a former geek yourself who's no longer geeky. But I mean, you are like the most brilliant person your whole life who is always crushing everybody in every class.

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I would love to get your take on Vivek's way into this controversy. Like you can defend the visas. You can not defend the visas. But my friend Vivek, this is not the way. This is not the way. He drops the following. The reason top tech companies often hire foreign-born and first-generation engineers over Native Americans isn't because of an innate American IQ deficit, a lazy and wrong explanation.

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A key part of it comes down to the C word, culture. A culture that celebrates the prom queen or the math Olympia champ or the jock over the valedictorian. My friend. This is a great way to produce, I guess, better engineers, but not to produce better men who the women actually want.

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We don't create our men in some laboratory where they're all Steve Urkels. We want guys who are, we like prom kings. We like sleepovers. We like people who develop social skills in addition to math skills.

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And this comes down to me as like, I, having been a product, not myself, but like my kids, of the New York City private school system, realize there are so many schools there who are looking to create the perfect SAT score. They want to create your child into the perfect SAT score. Well, I don't want that.

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And having moved now to Connecticut and found a school that actually cares about the whole child, about creating great young men and young women, it really puts the fine point on it. Yes, they need sleepovers. They need socialization. They need some stupid cartoons. They actually need sports. They need a whole bunch of things other than... Math, mathletes.

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Whether your pursuit involves a bachelor's, master's or doctoral degree, GCU's online, on-campus and hybrid learning environments are designed to help you achieve your unique academic, personal and professional goals. With over 340 academic programs as of June 2024, GCU meets you where you are and provides a path to help you fulfill your dreams. The pursuit to serve others is yours.

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There are trade-offs. And I think about this all the time because just given the circles that I'm in and the way I'm living in these so-called super zips or near these so-called super zips, where it's like a lot of wealth and a lot of advantage and privilege. And I always think like, okay, it's great.

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You know, I definitely, you could turn any kid into the mathlete who never does a sleepover, who's only, you know, doing practice tests and follows the Vivek plan to become the number one engineer. And you know what? You'd wind up with somebody who's probably not a leader.

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Because actual leaders who people want to be around and want to elect and want to follow have social skills and really interesting, deep personalities and a wealth of experience and exposure to other people and develop their EQs in addition to their IQs in a way that's really important. Just ask Donald Trump, who I believe is the opposite of a mathlete. You know, it's just it's so small.

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Mine is so myopic, but it is very clearly vague being like, This is my moment.

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No, no. I actually think it's kind of cute. It's kind of charming. He's not wrong that like if you do want great engineers, I suppose they do need to live something close to the athlete life. But to get to tell it, to push your child to give up socialization and stupid time, stupid time, mindless time. is not the way.

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I mean, having gone to the Google headquarters and been, you know, toured around, those guys who sit there entering data all day, Google has set out like sword fighting for them in their downtime.

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Yeah, that's right. Have you met a nerd? Exactly right. So anyway, I look forward to discussing that with him when he comes back on. All right. Let's talk about President Biden because he is still president. And you point out this is the most alive he's been in a long time. And there were a couple of headlines of him. First of all, He's saying he would have won. He never should have stepped aside.

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This is according, I think it was the Washington Post. My team will correct me. I think it was WAPO. Anyway, yeah, it was WAPO saying, I would have won. I shouldn't have stepped aside. That was mistaken.

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But in the meantime, in his final days, he is doing everything possible to thwart the Trump agenda, from striking this deal with certain workers that they can work from home interminably, to now making it impossible for us to do drilling behind pretty much off of the entire East Coast. And Trump tried to undo Barack Obama's attempt to do that to him when he took over.

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Trump took over in 16 and Barack Obama had tried to do this. And Trump tried to undo it by executive order. It was challenged in the course and Trump lost. So there is a better than average chance that Joe Biden's moves will hold. Meanwhile, Trump ran on drill, baby, drill. The American people voted for this. And Joe Biden with his or maybe it's Joe Biden. Maybe it's not Joe.

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But who knows who's making these decisions? Ben is doing everything within his power to thwart the wall, to stop the return of the federal workforce to D.C. And this is the latest on drilling offshore.

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We were in Montana skiing and it was awesome. Awesome. It was so snowy. And I have to tell you, it reminded me of my childhood in Syracuse, where every morning you would wake up and look out the window and you'd say, yep, snow again. Still more snow. It's been such a nice change from what we saw yesterday. last year. And I think the year before too, where it's just, it was nothing.

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Let it flourish. Find your purpose at Grand Canyon University, private, Christian, affordable. Visit gcu.edu. Ben, happy new year. Great to see you.

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And will. Will. I mean, even Kamala Harris today is out there like, I will certify the results, unlike that loser who refused to do it. These two, I can't wait to see them leave Washington. I really can't wait. It's going to be a joy. Ben, I'm sorry, however, to see you go. It's a pleasure to see you, my friend.

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All right. We're going to stay on Joe Biden when Glenn Greenwald, the number one guest, the most frequent guest on The Megyn Kelly Show, joins us next. Did you know that American homeowners nationwide have over $32 trillion in equity and cyber criminals are targeting it with a growing scam the FBI calls house stealing?

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The best way to protect your equity is with triple lock protection from home title lock. Triple lock protection is 24 seven monitoring. And God forbid, if the worst happens, restoration services at no out of pocket cost to you. When was the last time he checked on your title? Likely never, right? And that's exactly what scammers are counting on.

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Make sure you're not already a victim and you can get a free title history report as well as a 30-day free trial of triple lock protection today by going to hometitlelock.com and using the promo code Megan or just click on the link in the description. That's hometitlelock.com, promo code Megan, hometitlelock.com.

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joining me now, the very first guest ever on The Megyn Kelly Show back in September 2020. Soon we'll be at our fifth year anniversary and one of the most frequent, Glenn Greenwald, host of Rumble's System Update. Glenn, happy new year. Great to see you. Oh, and happy January 6th.

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Yeah, it's great to be back. All right, so the... I don't know, the panty ringing over January 6th and the reminder by President Biden that this needs to stay top of mind in the memory of the American people. It cannot be forgotten. You know, it's so strange, Ben.

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It's amazing. The January 6th thing. And, you know, right on brand as we head into January 6th, who gets honored by President Biden, not with the Presidential Medal of Freedom, but with one step down, like the commendation one under Biden. But Liz Cheney, because what did the Democrats love more than the Cheneys?

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Mm hmm. It's really I mean, it's pretty galling. And of course, it's just they just want to call attention to January 6th. And they continue trying to sell it as the new 9-11.

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And the American public is just not buying it, no matter how many dark Brandon's speeches we have, how many attempts to declare Trump an insurrectionist and keep him off the ballot we have, or how many presidential medals we have given to. I mean, nobody pays attention to these civilian medals. It's like Anna Wintour was given like what? How does she get?

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And I think she got the one higher than Liz Cheney, by the way. There's somebody. Yes, I have this here in my packet. Somebody is upset. Some leftist is upset that Liz Cheney didn't get what Anna Wintour got. It's CNN medical analyst Jonathan Reiner says. So Biden awarded Liz Cheney a lesser recognition than Anna Wintour, Denzel Washington and Bill Nye, the science guy. Indefensible.

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This is the Presidential Medal of Freedom. No public figure has demonstrated courage in the defense of freedom more than Liz Glenn.

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I don't remember anybody doing that about the BLM protests, what happened in Portland, the 2,000 cops who were hurt in those riots, David Dorn, who was killed in St. Louis in June of 20... None of that has to be remembered. Just Jay 6th, which, you know, the alleged police officer death toll, they continue to make up since no police died on January 6th.

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So when Joe Biden gave Liz Cheney the award, as there always is when it's Joe Biden and a woman, any woman, could be Betsy DeVos, who came on my show a couple of years ago to say that she was in a wheelchair after having hurt her leg. And he basically me too'd her forehead. I don't... I don't understand exactly, but it happened to the little girls whose hair he sniffs to Liz Cheney.

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Joe Biden doesn't know when to let go of any female in his presence. He in this video here, you'll see he he's got her by the hand. She's kind of like, give me my award. OK, I've got the award. She tries to pull away. He won't let go. He's holding on to the hand. At one point, she actually does roll her eyes. She still doesn't have the award. He's still holding on to it.

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And I don't know exactly what's going on here, Glenn, but it's probably further evidence of the president's decline. I'm just going to give you one more on the back of that one. Last night, he gave an interview. Well, he didn't give an interview. He's caught at the White House on camera speaking to reporters. This is from Fox News.

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We went back to look at the original to see what led to this moment. What was it, a question about Debbie Murphy? Somebody asked him a question about what? Oh, asked him about Trump's plan to end birthright citizenship. OK, that was the question that preceded the outburst. You will hear from Joe Biden right here. Listen.

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But they talk about it truly as though it is akin to the 9-11 terror attacks. What do you make of the, as I say, ringing that's going on?

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And yet we had ready as we went to break, uh, PolitiFact saying the lie of the year was Trump's they're eating the dogs. They're eating the pets. That was the lie of the year, not Joe Biden's fine and can totally do a second term. It was what a joke. You mentioned a couple of media, um, defenses of Joe Biden's mental acuity. We've got some of that.

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Oh, really? She was referring to Chuck Schumer there, which I'll just play to before I toss it to you, Glenn. Kristen Welker, the moderator, confronted Chuck Schumer over the many lies he told about Biden being a superhero behind the scenes. You know, if only we could see him the way Schumer sees him. He's you know, he's an Einstein ready to do rhetorical battle with anybody at any point.

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So he doesn't answer. He's a great guy. He's a patriot. That does not speak to whether he has the mental acuity to do another four years, never mind complete the existing four.

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No. And by the way, Kristen Welker is equally guilty because there's a clip of her post the June debate, post the meltdown, defending Biden's mental acuity when she was interviewing Doug Burgum, who was raising serious questions about it. Here's that.

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Look at that, Glenn. She won't. She interrupts him. She won't let him back up his point. She claims there's no proof that he he doesn't have the mental acuity to be president. This is days after that disastrous debate that would wind up causing him to lose massive support and wind up having to go. And then she what is she? Why? What is so pressing that she needs to move on to?

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Meanwhile, over at CBS, there is one woman, Jan Crawford Greenberg, who – or maybe she's just Jan Crawford now. I think she may have gotten a divorce. In any event, she stands as a beacon of reason, or at least attempted in this case, when the subject comes up on her network of what the most underreported story of 2024 was.

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It's interesting because she just had a situation where she took on her network – in a, in a tape that was leaked when, um, Tony Docapool kind of went after, uh, Ta-Nehisi Coates, right. Who, who had spent 10 days in Israel and declared himself an expert and wrote a book about it, which I think I feel like you should spend more than 10 days there before you write it.

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Anyway, um, the, the anchor got a ton of blowback and like disciplined. And she stood up in this meeting to say, what are, what's our process? Because you had one guy coming on with one POV and he challenged him with a different POV. And isn't that called journalism? Anyway, here she is again on, um, what actually was the most under reported story.

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Mm hmm. Now they're closer to doing it than ever because they lost. So now you can see they're genuinely thinking, OK, some some sincere soul searching might be in order so that we don't lose again. It's not so that they can save their reputations or do good journalism, Glenn.

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Kamala Harris didn't even know what the 25th Amendment was. I got dollars to donuts. She probably thought it was the rental car policy that requires you to be 25 years old before you can rent a car. This woman was out there, couldn't even lead the Senate in the Pledge of Allegiance a couple of days. She doesn't even know the pledge or she says it so infrequently she forgot it in the moment.

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To the flag. It's what kids used to say every day, at least in elementary school, including yours truly. And my little guy in his elementary school did, too. But Kamala Harris, I don't know. I guess they didn't do that out in Canada where she was raised.

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Well, that's an interesting question. Which is the bigger lie, that Joe Biden was competent for the job or that Kamala Harris was?

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Yeah. Just like her accents were a fraud. We gonna win. We gonna win. Have you not decency, man? It's just so fake. I don't know. I'm asking myself that same question, which is the bigger lie, that he was competent to do the job or that she was? God, they're tied because Joe Biden... Was totally incompetent. He did not have the mental acuity. He still doesn't. And he's still president right now.

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I certainly couldn't do a second term. And she I mean, in my lifetime, she's the biggest moron to ever run for president or vice president ever. And that became more and more obvious day after day.

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I know. No, it's similar to how they've run out of real examples of racism everywhere. So they have to make them up. You know, they've run out of examples to make Trump supporters look horrible. So they've got to exaggerate what happened on January 6th to make it into one of the riots that they did.

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It's amazing. Thank God the American people saw right through it. Now, they saw through most of the media lies. I have to say that's why Trump won. But it wasn't for lack of trying on the media's part to mislead them. And Grabian, who does these great mashups, put together some of the lies that we saw from the media leading up to the election. And just in 2024, we've only cut a minute soundbite.

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That is amazing. What a great montage of the lying, the lying they did because every one of those, I believe they knew they were lying.

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That, you know, I just referenced and after BLM and after George Floyd, they've got to make it sound like the right. Those are the rioters. Those are the insurrectionists. Those are the ones who are truly a problem. I just went back because we've covered the 2000 cops who were hurt during the BLM riots and David Dorn, who was shot and killed by looters in St. Louis, retired police officer.

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Mm-hmm, exactly right. That's why that weird thing about J.D. Vance caught fire because they all loved it so much. It got Tim Walz the nomination, which was great, as it turns out, for the Republican ticket. And once again, proves that they just don't have the power anymore. The American public sees through these lies. They knew Tim Walz was the weird one. J.D. Vance is not weird at all.

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He's actually quite normal, which is one of his best selling points. Now, that's the Democrat Party. The Republican Party does not and has not for a long time marched in lockstep. They are like the big Italian family that airs its grievances very publicly. And That brings me to Elon Musk versus Steve Bannon, which we will cover right after this quick commercial break.

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And the number was after BLM or after George Floyd with BLM protests, 8,700 protests, 574 at least, that turned into riots with violence and criminality. Violence in more than 62% of the Portland, Oregon demonstrations, more than 62% were violent.

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Glenn, I mentioned this with Ben Shapiro, but there was an intraparty fight that erupted over the past two weeks when it comes to H-1B visas, which allow foreign workers to come over to the United States and work here. And it was Musk and Vivek versus Steve Bannon and some core MAGA or working class supporters, too, on whether these are a good thing or a bad thing.

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Trump ultimately sided with Elon. But it kind of emerged after the weird Vivek tweet into more of a fight between Elon and Bannon, those two, I mean, behemoths doing rhetorical battle. And here's just an example of what Bannon said to Elon Musk on Bannon's show, you know, not directly, but into the ether. Sat 21.

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Oh boy, Elon had tweeted, I don't know that this was directly to Steve Bannon, but had tweeted, the reason I'm in America along with so many critical people who built SpaceX, Tesla, and hundreds of other companies that made America strong is because of H-1B. Take a big step back and fuck yourself in the face. I will go to war on this issue, the likes of which you cannot possibly comprehend.

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So, I mean, two extremely strong messages from two extremely strong messengers, both close to Trump, both within the GOP. Your take on it?

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So it's just such a delight to be in the snow, to see those fat flakes falling and to have the holidays, especially in that setting. Absolutely loved it. We did our costume nights. You know, that's a big thing for me every year around the Christmas holiday where we do a costume night. I pick the theme And I surprised my family with their costumes.

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And where do those cops go to have somebody remember their traumatic brain injuries, injuries to their face, to their femurs, to their bodies as Molotov cocktails were thrown at them, as bricks were thrown at them, broken bones. I don't think they're going to get an op-ed by the sitting president in the Washington Post like we got from Joe Biden today what Americans should remember.

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It's so funny to watch. Bannon, you got to hand it to him, has a way of condensing the issue. Converts sit in the back, and then Elon, not one to be trifled with, with the, fuck your face, I will die on this hill. It's on. It's going to be dramatic and fun and consequential, hugely consequential for... four years. Quick sojourn back to January 6th day.

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They just did certify the electoral college results without a single objection. The joint session took roughly 30 minutes and Donald Trump will be sworn in as the 47th president of the United States. Yay. On January 20th of this month. Not everyone's happy about it. And many people would like us to be more focused on the insurrection that he personally unleashed, if you ask them.

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As we discussed earlier, they think it's as bad as like the Holocaust. And you don't have to take my word for it. Here is Sonny Hostin of The View.

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Yeah, the January 6th is right up there next to the Holocaust and slavery, Glenn.

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Mm hmm. So that reminds me that last night, Hollywood held the Golden Globes and the comedian who was the host. Forgive me, I can't remember her name right now. She started. OK, yeah. She started with a remark that was on point to the effect of there's so many powerful people here. There's absolutely nothing you can do except elect a president. Yeah. which was good. Correct.

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about them, about those riots. But what we hear from Biden today is that we must remember the wisdom of the adage that any nation that forgets his past is doomed to repeat it. Lamenting that in time, there will be Americans who didn't witness the January 6th riot firsthand, but we'll learn about it from footage and testimony only. This is ridiculous, Ben.

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Cause everyone in that room probably voted for Kamala Harris. And the one thing I wanted to raise with you was I didn't tweet a lot while I was on my vacation. I wanted to spend my time with my family. You know, I really, really try.

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I stay up on the news, but I try not to tweet or get too into it just because, you know, then it blows up in like a Twitter thing that's distracting and you're thinking about it. And I didn't want to be thinking about that. I OK, so but I did send a tweet out Sunday night, right? Sunday night or Saturday night, because I made the mistake of watching the movie Conclave.

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And I blame my husband, Doug, who said, let's watch the movie Conclave. That's really all we did. But we thought it was billed as a thriller involving the Vatican and the process of selecting a new pope. So that sounded kind of good. I'm into thrillers. I love thrillers, actually. And I thought maybe there'd be like a murder and you have to figure out who done it or, you know, whatever.

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In no world, and yes, I am about to offer the spoiler of this movie, and I hope you don't care because I hope you don't watch it. In no world did I predict that the big twist was they would elect a new pope. The whole thing is about the process of electing a new pope who is intersex, who is purportedly a man, but has female reproductive organs. That's the big twist at the end.

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And along the way, every single cardinal you meet in the Catholic Church is disgusting, except for, but not really even except for, the one liberal guy from America who's like pushing for more women in the church and a bigger role for women, but he turns out to be pretty craven too. They're all gross. And then...

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The only one who has any virtue is the one who's secretly a woman, and then maybe Ralph Fiennes, who plays the cardinal shepherding the process, who then allows said intersex pope to become pope without telling anybody. And I tweeted out that this was disgusting, that it was anti-Catholic, that I was offended, repulsed by what I saw. And then somebody asked me,

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The screenwriter, it was based on a book written a few years ago, the screenwriter, Peter Straughan, about my criticism, apparently, last night at the Globes, saying she called it, me, anti-Catholic. And he, quote, rejected my claim, saying, I don't think it is. I was brought up Catholic. Some of my best friends are Catholic. He says, I was brought up Catholic. I was an altar boy.

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Well, Peter Straughan, those days are obviously long gone. And he says, I think the core message of Conclave is about the church always having to re-find its spiritual core because it deals with so much power. I don't believe that at all. It's not about having to re-find its spiritual core. It was an attempt to embarrass and humiliate Catholics." And I get it.

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You and I both know that's how we talk about the Holocaust. That is how we talk about 9-11 and things like that.

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I understand that the Catholic Church has had its problems, Glenn, but I'm sick of this bullshit because they always do this, whether it's Catholics or Christians. There is one religion that they love to mock, smear, and belittle. And if you look at all the times that they've mocked, smeared, and belittled religions, Catholicism and Christians would be at the very, very top.

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And there's not a second close contender. And it's reflected in the write-ups of the movie. Like Variety's Peter DeBruge calls this movie one of the most satisfying twists in years. And that's what we're talking about. A Hail Mary that both surprises and restores one's faith. maybe not everyone's, but certainly that of the disillusioned. Vulture's film critic calls it sinfully entertaining.

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They love to see the Catholics humiliated. A film like this would never, never be made about Islam or Muslims.

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Don't bother. Don't bother. Because it's like, I think they won for best screenplay, I think, and they didn't win the other awards. But Ralph Fiennes was up. Stanley Tucci's in it. John Lithgow, of course, you know, he's another one who's a far left guy.

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He made that clear in his portrayal of Roger Ailes in the bombshell movie and the interviews thereafter, which I paid attention to for obvious reasons. Um, it's ridiculous. And honestly, like I've said to my audience before, I have a very high threshold for offense. It's really hard to offend me. I guess I'm, I'm not saying I was offended.

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I didn't feel like deeply offended, but I was unsettled by what I saw. I, I, I was pissed. I just think that I'm sick of the Christian Catholic bashing by Hollywood. And it's one of the other reasons why I can't stand that entire industry. Glenn Greenwald. Thank you, my friend.

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You too. All right, before we go, speaking of Hollywood, guess what? Tomorrow we have an exclusive interview with Brian Friedman, my lawyer, my friend, and the lawyer who is now representing Justin Baldoni. in a massive lawsuit against the New York times around Blake lively and her allegations against Justin. All right.

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So she is claiming some things about Justin and the New York times printed it like a stenographer. And now Justin is through Brian Friedman is suing the New York times. And Brian is here in an exclusive and explosive interview tomorrow. Don't miss that. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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No, if you've been paying any attention to what's happened to the J6 protesters slash rioters, and I make no excuse for those who actually committed violence against cops that day, they should and have been punished. But those who just wandered into the Capitol where there's so

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many who aimlessly wandered into the Capitol thinking that they were allowed there or that at best they were committing a minor trespass. They have more than paid for that very egregious mistake, as it turns out, because the whole world was watching and Biden wanted to make a political point. His DOJ wanted to make a political point.

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And this year, actually, we'll put this up on the YouTube show. The theme was Back to the Future. And it was hilarious. I made Doug George McFly. you know, the geeky dad. It was amazing. I was Jennifer, Marty McFly's girlfriend from the 80s. And my son Yates was Marty. My son Thatcher was Doc. And my daughter Yardley was Lorraine, the 1950s version. Anyway, it was great.

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Um, but to hear the media talk about this, this solemn anniversary, Ben is to, again, it reminds me of nine 11, having lived through nine 11. This is what it brings up for me. Here's an example.

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On the knife's edge. On the knife's edge. And then there's... I'll give you one more, Ben. The AP today seems very upset that the Capitol was not left a mess so that we could go back today, four years later, and look at the scars and lament how bad MAGA is and its return to power, saying in the lead line, inside the Capitol... Reminders of the violence are increasingly hard to find.

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Scars on the walls have been repaired. Windows and doors broken by the rioters have been replaced. And there is no plaque, display, or remembrance of any kind. In some ways, it's like the insurrection of January 6, 2021 that shook the foundations of American democracy never even happened.

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I'm sure he's thrilled. The what they're doing in New Orleans is very interesting to me. And we've seen it done time and time again. They're much more interested in what happened out in Las Vegas because that guy was a Trump supporter. OK, great. We're on to something. Let's talk about Vegas. This guy, he's a nutcase and he appears to be a right winger.

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But the guy in New Orleans who's, you know, apparently affiliated with or pledges loyalty to ISIS, it's time to move on. That's really not that interesting, even though 14 people are dead in New Orleans as a result of his behavior. And you had this is while we were on break or I was on break.

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But on January 1st, you had the FBI agent Althea Duncan, who's in charge of the Bureau's New Orleans field office, come out, stopping short of even calling it a terrorist attack. Here's that.

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How is it not a terrorist attack? The guy had an Islamic State flag affixed to his rented Ford pickup truck. Later, the deputy assistant director of the FBI's counterterrorism division would say it was 100% inspired by ISIS. The 42-year-old behind it, Shamsuddin Jabbar, who was a U.S. citizen from Texas and an Army vet, had apparently pledged his allegiance to ISIS via the New York Times.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. I'm Megan Kelly. Welcome to the Megan Kelly show and happy Monday. And guess what? I'm not kidding you. It is National Astronaut Day. You can't make it up. It just happens to be National Astronaut Day. Gayle King, I salute you. I've been and I admire your sacrifice. You too, Lauren Sanchez.

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And you're not allowed to have a helicopter there to preserve the beauty and they don't want them landing and they don't want to turn this into LaGuardia Airport. And so what did he do? He brought his yacht and its little sister where it has a helipad and Bezos has the same thing. I've seen it. I haven't been on it, but I've seen it.

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Where you can get around the anti-helicopter rule because they don't want you landing on one of the mountains by having it land on the sister yacht. And then he goes heliskiing in the peaks of the fjords. So it's him. It's supposed to be like some $100 million wedding between Bezos and Sanchez in June.

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In Italy, some over-the-top situation where, I mean, the amounts of money that are going to be flushed down the toilet so these two vain, empty vessels can see themselves in People magazine is stomach-turning.

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And the Met Gala, okay, so Anna Wintour and her excesses and her obsession with fashion and over-the-top parties like this where she's surrounded only by the right names is part of the problem. So she, to get the cover, does something about black people. To get the extra cover, she has the advisory committee of black people. And then there's this quote in the Times. One of the advisors, Ms.

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Karifa Johnson, in talking about what she hopes to see tonight and what she doesn't want to see, put it more dryly. Quote, I just really don't want to see any floor-length do-rags or pimp canes, she said. Now, I wasn't sure what the do rag it spelled D-U-R-A-G was because in my head that connotes the thing that, you know, some people wear on their heads. And indeed, that's what it is.

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That is it's a do rag like like it almost looks like a bathing cap with like a tie at the back, almost like a pirate's cap. And some people of color wear them. And she's saying you better not go like pimp with it. Where it's, you know, it goes all the way down to the floor. You have a pimp cane. So fuck you if you want to go that way with black fashion.

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President Trump making news yesterday sparring with Meet the Press host Kristen Welker, while Jen Psaki gets very offended when asked if she was part of the Biden cognitive decline cover-up. She never saw anything, anything like we all saw. I see nothing at the June debate. It wasn't until then. Sure, Jen.

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And to me, Andrew, like we have Jason Riley coming on second hour and he he wrote the book, Please Stop Helping Us. And he's got a follow up out today about affirmative action saying, you know, black people and their assent in the country was going rampant. Very well.

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It was an astronomic curve upward prior to the Great Society in terms of everything, socioeconomic measures, education, religious attendance, intact families. It wasn't until the government, meaning the left, in particular Lyndon Johnson, got involved that things really started to spiral downward.

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So you don't wanna see the do-rags and the pimp canes, but I guarantee this woman's a leftist who helped create more of a culture in some sections of the black community that embrace that kind of fashion that she's now embarrassed about.

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Whereas if the left had left the black community alone, they'd probably have total equal parity on all these measures that they like to now raise as signs that republicanism has failed and America has failed.

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Andrew, Jeff Bezos literally two weeks ago shot his fiance and Gayle King into space and then lectured everybody. Have you been? Would they cost a million dollars a seat? No, no one has been. And no one's going to be going.

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Plus, the Met Gala is tonight, and it's apparently going to be the most politically charged one in years and the most pandering. We've got the perfect guest to discuss it all, Andrew Klavan, host of The Daily Wire's Andrew Klavan Show and author of the new book, The Kingdom of Cain, Finding God in the Literature of Darkness. It's out tomorrow.

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Yes, 100 percent. That's exactly right. It feels like end of days kind of stuff. And just two points. The Times points out that given the crackdown on DEI by the Trump administration and all of corporate America and many colleges, even I mean, even colleges now, we'll get into this with Jason later, but even University of Michigan got rid of its DEI program, which was it was the worst, the worst.

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That's one of the many reasons he's the perfect person to start talking. with the Met Gala on, it's all about finding God in the midst of evil and today's declining culture. This July, there is a global summit of BRICS nations in Rio de Janeiro. The bloc of emerging superpowers, including China, Russia, India, and Iran, are meeting with the goal of displacing the U.S.

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So it's not just the ones Trump is threatening. You know, it's many others are like, let's let's get rid of this has been a nightmare. Um, so this looks like the resistance now, Anna Wintour, Anna Wintour and her $70,000 plate gala is the resistance now because they're leaning into the ridiculous hyper focus on race in the midst of the country's pushback on this nonsense.

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And then they also point out that, uh, in the past, uh, Further complications in the fact that she's hosting this are the fact that in the past she faced her own allegations of creating a racially insensitive workplace at Vogue. And also, despite the many DEI initiatives after 2020, the fashion world has seemingly failed to make good on those promises.

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Of the more than 15 appointments at the top of major brands this year, not a single one was a designer of color. which is totally fine to point out because live by the sword, die by the sword. Maybe they couldn't find black designers who, for whatever reason, rose to the top. Maybe next year they will. Maybe there weren't enough Asians either. I have no idea.

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Maybe it used to be a meritocracy, and only now are they getting obsessed with race. But the point is, if you're going to live by that sword, and Anna Wintour does now, then you're going to die by it too. And this is her trying to stop herself from dying by it, by being like, but I did a thing promoting black... fashion. Look at me. I'm a good person. I had Simone Biles. Okay.

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Secondly, to your point about what was the last time you saw just like a pure movie that was like just about American values and made you feel good. It happened to be last night. Now, not coincidentally, it was from a film that was made 15 years ago, but let me tell you what happened. Uh, we didn't get to watch the Kentucky Derby on Saturday. We were all, all over the place, my family.

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And, um, so we, uh, I, I, I knew who won because I am in the news, right? So I saw who won, but I asked the family, has anybody seen, nobody had seen it. So I said, all right, close your eyes. We're going to watch the Kentucky Derby on Sunday night. I'll queue it up on YouTube. And that's what we did. We watched some local pre-show from Kentucky for half an hour.

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And then we played the race, which was two minutes. And we wear our little fat, I have a little Kentucky Derby box and we put on fascinators and we put on fun hats and like little scarves and ascot tie type things for the guys, my sons. It was fun. Anyway, we watched it. And as you know, sovereignty triumphed over journalism and there's a lot to say there too.

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But it got us in the horse watching mood. So we put on that great film from 2010 from Disney, Secretariat, starring Diane Lane. It was great. And John Malkovich as the horse's trainer. It was so good. It was made by the same producers, the same producing team that made the movie Miracle on Ice and that did Invincible, which is a great film with Mark Wahlberg.

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You know, Disney used to know how to make films that were great for the whole family, that had wholesome lessons, that made you feel good about the country and the possibilities here. By the way, I later learned that Secretariat was the only non-human included on ESPN's roster of the 100 greatest athletes of the 20th century. So, or maybe it was top 50. I think it might've been top 50.

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And Secretariat was the only horse or even just non-human listed on that because he was just so, what an incredibly talented horse, the greatest race horse to ever live. And anyway, it's one of those things, not unlike Miracle with Kurt Russell, where they take you back to the Miracle on Ice, 1980, and the U.S.

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hockey team and just make you feel good about the country and something extraordinary that happened here. But look what a difference. You don't have to go back before 2025. Go to 2020. In 10 years... Disney collapsed on its mission, its understanding of what America wanted, and it's become evil. Yes, I will use that word, too, for them. They've crossed over into trying to trans our children.

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Or you wind up like the movie Reagan where you can't get nominated for Best Picture because you didn't have enough LGBTQs on your production set or people of color or indigenous, whatever. I mean, you go down the list, but you have to have these quotas filled in order to even qualify for the big awards in Hollywood. So it's just the whole thing is such a farce. It makes no sense.

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You mentioned something at the top about how it's like hard to find a nice movie about a male-female relationship now. You're just like a beautiful, you know, heterosexual, falling in love, coming of age story. And...

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I want to add to that because not only is it hard to find that, but like pornographic stuff is ubiquitous now, you know, teens, like they say the average 12 year old has already seen triple X porn on one of his devices by the time he's 12.

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And then you think about, and this is no offense, but I saw this headline to my pals over the Trigonometry podcast, and I like these guys, but I saw online a lot of the women who I follow, who are strong women, were very angry with them because, and saying I'm unfollowing the show, because they're interviewing that woman from OnlyFans who had sex with 100 guys in a day, in 24 hours. Yeah.

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you know, put it online. And then she's just all about these crazy, very depressing antics that she does sexually. And I see, like, I'm not about deplatforming and I still like those guys at Trigonometry, but that is definitely not an interview I would do. I would not want to highlight this woman's role in our society.

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I think it's something we should be feeling really sad and depressed about, not giving greater, you know, prominence to or light to. But can you speak to that? Because that's all part of it, speaking of evil.

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Andrew, I'm not kidding. Like, it's actually quite perfect that you've written a book on finding God in the midst of evil as we watch this Met Gala take place. And the reason they've decided to go hyper pandering, it's the all black Met Gala. It's not only blacks who are going, but it's a pandering to black dandyism.

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And the culture of black fashion is starting back with certain slaves all the way up to modern day. They Anna Wintour, Wintour so white and her partner, who's like organizing this whole thing with her, also a white guy. decided that they realized they would take a hit if they just tried to plan this.

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I'll tell you, on Friday night, we were thrilled to go to our... We have three kids. They're 15, 14, and 11. And the oldest two were confirmed in the Catholic Church. Our eldest was a year behind just because we were asleep at the switch. It was a COVID thing. It whatever. It was fine. It worked out great. Cause they got to go through it together.

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My, my older two and they both got confirmed on Friday night. And I was surprised at how moved I was by the ceremony. I did not expect tears or to really like they've been working so hard. Our, our church in particular does require a lot of, as they call them to come from Andy. And, um, These kids did a lot over the past two years to earn this right. And it was totally moving.

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The bishop was there. They had their white gowns on. These young girls in the church with like their hair back and a little white ribbon. I mean, it just spoke to something deeply. higher and better and purer than what you get.

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So they brought in, which feels very much like black tokenism to me, like a focus group of black fashion elites, allegedly, and also just well-known black people like Angel Reese of the WNBA to like give them the imprint of approval. And some of these folks had like meetings at the Apollo Theater.

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I almost likened it to like, you know, when you're in a freezing cold church with air conditioning, and then you walk outside on an August day and you get hit in the face by the 90 degree weather. It's almost like that to go from that kind of a ceremony where you feel connected with God and hopeful about your children's future and their relationship with him.

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and like the set of moral blueprint that you get from a relationship with God. And then you come back into the news world and you see like the girl who's going on the trigonometry. Again, this is not to bash those guys. I love them, but I just, this woman's choices are really deeply problematic for me. And I just, I feel sorry for her. I feel like someone needs to save her.

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I don't think she should be promoted. I think she should be like somehow saved. And I think we need to be saved. You know, we need to be saved. Stephen A. Smith was asking me, What happened? Like, why did wokeism rise? Why is it here? And I said what I believe, which I think you believe, too. We push religion out of the public square and we had nothing left. And these people need something.

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You know, people it's no accident that most people on the right are not woke and most people on the right are religious. And most people on the left are the ones who make up all the woke. And they've pushed God not just out of the public square, but out of their lives entirely. They need more people.

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They need more experiences like I had on Friday night and they need less time online watching OnlyFans.

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The New York Times wants us to know they went to the Apollo Theater to plan tonight's Met Gala, you know, historic theater in Harlem as they tried to pay homage to black fashion because I will submit to you and then you take it.

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And, you know, the thing is, too, I was reminded, as I often am at church and church-related events, it's not just the relationship with God. It's also this sort of scaffolding of the relationships that you develop with the people who are in your church. In this case, the people who were also being confirmed, the families who also had kids being confirmed. And...

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I mean, our two sponsors are absolutely lovely people who like pulled our kids aside privately and said, you know, like whatever you need, if you need somebody to talk to you, if you need a ride home, if you need anything, like we've got you, like all of this comes into their lives because of this overall structure, the relationship with God, the church, the week after week relationship and, you know, seeing the people, all of that is so valuable and helps fill somebody up, a child in particular, with

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with great ingredients as opposed to the darkness of some of these other things. Just some of the themes that Andrew touches on in his new book. It's called The Kingdom of Cain, Finding God in the Literature of Darkness. It's out tomorrow. We'll be right back with more on that and the news. Don't go away. Let's be real. Our modern world can be toxic.

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It aired yesterday on Sunday. Before I play you the actual clip of Trump, I'm going to play you a soundbite of your favorite news program, The View. Discussing, discussing the clip. I love, see how I love. Okay, watch.

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They have been embarrassed by the year after year after year press coverage of how disgustingly excessive and over the top this showing of wealth is where the plates go for over $70,000 a ticket. And you've got morons literally like the Kardashians and Diddy inside the Met Gala I witnessed with my own eyes dry humping in the bathrooms, smoking in the Met Gala bathrooms with cigarettes.

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Yes, the answer. Yes, you're crazy. Sorry, I should have set it up better. But Trump is there. They're pulling a part of the interview in which he said she said, you have to follow the Constitution, don't you? And he said, I don't know. And so that's her being like, oh, you know, you know. And what they're not playing is the full context and follow up of the exchange, which we will do for you now.

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So he's making clear we will follow what the Supreme Court says, but the I don't know comes in the context of him saying, I'm not exactly sure. He's saying, I'm not sure what level of due process the Fifth Amendment would provide in this circumstance. There's no question if it were an American citizen, it would be the utmost.

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Or if it were an illegal who was arrested on a criminal charge inside the United States facing the loss of liberty within the United States being faced with a penitentiary. But there is a real question about what level of, quote, due process they get before being deported. And there's no question, none whatsoever, under expedited removal

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which allows the president to get rid of them, certainly along the southern border. And if they haven't been here for more than two years and Trump has tried to expand it beyond just immediately at the southern border, they get no due process. They get none. They get turned away and ejected immediately. The only way they stop that is if they claim asylum.

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Now, some people will do that, but many won't. And those people are not entitled to due process. So he is right to wiggle on these sweeping demands that he just say all of these illegals get, quote, due process. It's actually a lot more complicated than that. And he's 100 percent right to defer to his lawyers while saying, I will follow what the Supreme Court tells me.

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But, you know, the view isn't going to tell you that, Andrew, and neither are the left wing people. pundits and press who are running with Trump's not sure whether he has to follow the constitution as the headline out of that interview.

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I was laughing so hard. Maureen and Sarah and I were texting about it yesterday. Like, you've got to be kidding me. Like, it just happens to fall. right after we do our big astronaut special. Well, if you missed it, you should check it out on YouTube where it's blowing up. It's in our feed right now. In any event, here we are on our way toward our historic flight.

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Let me play another soundbite on that same front, because they got into the question of the border. And Trump's basically saying to her, isn't it wonderful to say the border's secure? And she's obsessing now about, can your emergency declaration that justified closing it remain in place now that it's secure? Can it? Can it? Can it? Watch.

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Another very famous pair from Wall Street snorting Coke, which my husband Doug saw with his own eyes in the men's room. And making a mockery of this place, which is supposed to house some of our greatest works of art. So now they've decided to try to get over this reputation of Anna Wintour being America's biggest snob.

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That's such a leftist, right? First of all, she won't say yes. Why can't you say yes? It's like if you said, isn't it a good thing that the nationwide number of abortions is down? Like if you were to say that, she would never say yes to that. Like whether you're pro-choice or not, isn't it better that we're killing fewer babies? Like you can't say that.

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There's certain things that should be not controversial. The secure border is one of them, but she won't. And where does she pivot to? Okay, maybe you're saying she's being objective. She doesn't want to offer her opinion. Fine. So where does she pivot to? Like maybe, how are you going to keep it that way, sir? No. When are we lifting the emergency declaration so it can become unsecure again?

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And this thing being the most over the top elitist evil event by pandering to blacks. What do you make of it?

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It is in line with their narrative, which is we do need open borders and more immigrants are good, whether they're legal or illegal. And the fact that virtually no American knows Rachel Marin's name, but virtually all now know Abrego Garcia, this Kilmar Abrego Garcia, who's an illegal, is ridiculous. Rachel Morin didn't get a visit.

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Her parents, her grieving family from Chris Van Hollen, the sitting senator from Maryland. He's the one who did go over to visit Kilmar Abrego Garcia, an MS-13 accused gang member who Trump's ICE arrested and shipped out to El Salvador. And he's El Salvadoran. The news on him, every day it gets worse. And by the way, the Democrats have now been told reportedly by leadership, stop going there.

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That's not a good look for us to be sitting having margaritas with this guy because not only is it very clear that he is MS-13, why is he hanging out with two MS-13 gang members on a street corner? They don't hang around with others. They only hang around with other gang members.

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Jesse waters on the five the other day was doing a very funny thing about how, like, it's like finding a bunch of Italians in like a corner gambling establishment in the back room. And one is called the Don and he's with, you know, two other guys. And one of the other guys is like, I have no idea. I'm not connected to the mob. No, it's like they only hang out with fellow made men.

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The odds of this being a civilian and not a gang member are extremely slim. Anyway, so now we learn over the past week that this Abrego Garcia, remember his wife looked at us all and went on Good Morning America and tried to claim that he's a very loving husband. Not only did we first learn about the first restraining order, then we learned about the second restraining order.

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And we now have the audio of Jennifer Vasquez Sura pleading with a judge for temporary protection from her husband in 2020 and actually describing some of his behavior in the first person. Listen here.

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And then she wound up standing down on her request for a protective order as virtually all domestic abuse victims do because they're scared and they get generally threatened by their abuser that they will not pursue that through or the abuse will continue. Don't know exactly what happened to her case. That's speculation on my part. And then there was this, Andrew.

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He got pulled over with a bunch of others back in 2022, and it was pretty clear that they were trafficking people across the southern border. It was like some car that had been weirdly enlarged without the normal sort of interior, and nobody wanted to produce an ID. And the person who was at the driver's seat had all sorts of questionable information that he was giving to cops.

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It looked like he had a questionable past when it comes to alleged crimes and possible trafficking before. And here's some audio obtained by Fox News of that 2022 traffic stop. You can hear the police saying, and you'll hear it here, he's hauling these people for money. Listen.

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Just to clarify, the driver was Kilmer Abrego Garcia and the owner of the car is the person who had the criminal past. And it had been modified so they could get more people into it. And so, I mean, it's just this is their poster boy. They don't care. It took leadership to tell them, stop doing photo ops with this person. But this is so on brand for them.

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Here is Ilhan Omar, speaking of people who don't love our country, when she was caught up with by a Daily Caller reporter, asked about her support for this guy. Yeah.

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Classy. It's nice. I mean, I'm a big fan of the F-bomb, but I host a podcast. I'm not a sitting member of Congress, like actually trying to represent constituents. And there was absolutely nothing wrong with the question. He wasn't rude. He didn't get in her face. That's a totally normal question that's being debated right now on virtually every news channel. But she can't handle it.

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And she's trying to look like a tough guy. This is the Democrats' new approach. They're going to swear more because they think that's Trump's magic. Do not get it.

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And try, you know, you try to sort of sound like, I don't know, Michael Douglas and the American president, you know, like I'm an ACLU carrying member.

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And like, this is all about rights and being an American without any acknowledgement of how they came into the country, the massive numbers, what it's done, what it's doing right now to American communities, American citizens, there has to be some proportionality given the, given the admission, right? The way they came in should be the way they go out with almost no due process.

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And in some cases, no due process. And we're fine with that. I asked Tulsi last week when I sat with her, What goes into deporting these people, figuring out who's going to be deported, who's going to be put on the planes to El Salvador? It's very in-depth. It is not he's brown and has a tattoo.

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It's DEA agents who are very steeped in who's connected to these MS-13 and Trenda Aragua gangs and FBI folios on all these guys. They know who's in the country and they certainly know the ones who are criminals and running gangs. That's why they started there. The left wants you to believe it's just all gay hairdressers who we targeted.

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I love that. Faith, family, and flag. That works perfectly for me. I want everybody to buy Andrew's book. It's called The Kingdom of Cain, Finding God in the Literature of Darkness. Very clever, as everything he writes is. It's a pleasure to see you, Andrew. Thanks for being here.

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All right, coming up next, Jason Reilly. He's so good. It's hard to get Jason Reilly. He doesn't do a lot of interviews. You don't see him everywhere. He's totally brilliant. And he's got a new book on the affirmative action fraud that's been perpetrated on us all. And in particular, that has harmed the black community. community. Jason tells it like, if you can, next.

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You can catch The Megyn Kelly Show on Triumph, a Sirius XM channel featuring lots of hosts you may know and probably love. Great people like Dr. Laura, Glenn Beck, Nancy Grace, Dave Ramsey, and yours truly, Megyn Kelly. You can stream The Megyn Kelly Show on SiriusXM at home or anywhere you are. No car required. I do it all the time. I love the SiriusXM app.

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President Trump and his administration have tackled countering DEI from day one of his second term. He means it, trying to eradicate the policies that show special treatment and ignore merit.

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Many proponents of DEI argue related programs such as affirmative action are necessary to help minority groups get ahead, and they are now working to undermine the Supreme Court ruling that says you can no longer do it in the college admissions setting. But my next guest is here to tell us why DEI The people pushing for affirmative action are completely wrong to do so.

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Jason Riley is a columnist for the Wall Street Journal and a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute. His new book, The Affirmative Action Myth, Why Blacks Don't Need Racial Preferences to Succeed, is out tomorrow and highlights how black achievement was on the rise before racial preference policies, which actually had the opposite effect of the one that was intended.

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Jason, great to see you again. So this is a great follow up. I know you've had other books, too, to please stop helping us, which was your earlier book about how the government just oh, so desperately wants to, quote, help the black community. And every time they try to, they set blacks back generationally.

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And this book seems to dovetail perfectly with your earlier book, as well as with a film that we profiled earlier. on this show five years ago from Shelby and Eli Steele, What Killed Michael Brown, which takes a look at Ferguson, Missouri, and talks about how blacks were moving up the socioeconomic scale in terms of neighborhoods and families and communities and earnings.

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And then came Lyndon Johnson's Great Society, which was meant to, quote, help and completely undermined all of that progress. So give us the basic thesis of your book.

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What does affirmative action do at the college level to the Black students and those around them?

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And I remember from, it was either one of our earlier discussions or maybe it was Heather McDonald, your colleague at the Manhattan Institute. But one of you guys was telling me, unfortunately, what happens with a lot of the folks who then do not, they're not able to compete in the sciences and they were on their way to getting an economics degree, but instead they couldn't make it.

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So they wind up majoring in like African-American studies or women's studies, which are degrees with which you can do absolutely nothing. Right.

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Well, and the other piece of it is they've they've ruined what used to be these like really coveted, exciting, sexy degrees like Harvard or Yale or Columbia. Because now for the black and brown and whatever other minority students who graduate from there in 2025 America, everybody's like, mm hmm. I mean, that's just the reality. We're like, mm hmm. We know how they got it.

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Every time you turn on Netflix, all you'd get is like black directors, black actors, black film. But I was like, Oh my God, like what happened?

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I mean, that's the truth. Whereas those kids of color who made it in there based on their own merit are getting dragged down with that same eye roll unfairly.

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And by the way, looking it up on the nationaldaycalendar.com, it says that National Astronaut Day on May 5th, 1961, astronaut Alan Bartlett, oh, I lost it just as I'm trying to click on it, Shepard, it's about Alan Shepard, first became the first American in space aboard the Freedom 7 space capsule. That was literally the flight to which Gayle King compared her vanity.

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Because what did it do as a practical matter? I mean, explain why did it stall? Because what the left will tell you is because this is a racist country and the stain of Jim Crow could never be erased and the stain of slavery could never be erased. So they kind of got as far as they could get and everything else is going to have to come, frankly, from whitey.

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Well, you touch on another point, which is very dicey. It's full of plutonium, this point. But you write, if black youth in more recent decades have adopted an oppositional mindset, it has been with the approval of many intellectual elites who excuse and justify behavior that previous generations once discouraged and condemned.

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So can you speak to what it used to be like versus I know what you're saying now. It's like these white leftist elites who will bend over backwards to be like, don't punish the black students. No black students can get suspended. Stop saying two plus two equals four just because it does. You know, if a black student says it's five, it's five. That's your white supremacy speaking.

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I want to ask you about what's happening with the Met Gala tonight because we started the show by talking about how it's like about the black diaspora. And these two white people, Anna Wintour and her chief costume designer, a white man, I've decided to make tonight's Met Gala all about black designers, even though very few black designers are really at the top of the fashion world.

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But this is her trying to look like she's she's a woman who's relatable and she cares about the black community. But meanwhile, it's not going to happen at Vogue, but she's going to feature them at the Met Gala. And. So one of the people who they had to bring on like a black committee that they pointed out in The New York Times has a meeting at the Apollo Theater, Jason. So they're legit.

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They're at the Apollo Theater with their meetings to say, like, what the theme should be and who should be invited. And there's a quote from one saying, you know, we really want to make sure that people continue to to to. you know, perpetuate our vision of black dandyism.

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But it's like, but the disgusting debauchery truly of like you're in, have some respect, you absolute cultural lowlifes. You got in here because Anna Wintour thought somebody might click to see your half naked body on her red carpet, but have some respect for the actual great works of art that are in this place. You don't understand true beauty and true culture.

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That's, that's the idea of like this sort of colorful dress that was favored by some, but not, she does not want to see a full length do rag. That's a quote, a full length do rag by anybody or quote, quote, a pimp cane. Now, this to me is so ironic because this is a black person saying this about what she doesn't want to see from black people showing up to celebrate black culture.

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Meanwhile, you make a pretty strong case that it is the left that set a portion of the black community down the lane of prizing the black, whatever, do-rag, the pimp cane, and so on, as opposed to folding into the middle class and there being almost no distinction between them and their white counterparts.

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So on the affirmative action front, are we expecting these colleges to comply? Because I remember right after the ruling, I think it was Cornell, if memory serves. And, you know, you went to I think you went to college in Buffalo and I'm from Syracuse. We had that discussion.

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So not not too far from our neck of the woods switched over to, OK, we won't ask what your race is on your application, but we will ask for your your essay to get into college should be submitted via video. You read it. Yeah.

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Like they only understand it through their Kardashian lens. It's absolutely disgusting. Um, Here's the thing. Here's what they're saying about tonight's gala. Okay. They're calling it super fine, tailoring black style, which the museum says is a cultural and historical examination of black style over 300 years through the concept of dandyism. The Mets show tonight.

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Well, I certainly hope they stay on the case because it's so pernicious and you've been one of the greatest truth tellers on it all. Buy The Affirmative Action Myth by Jason Reilly. It's out tomorrow. The Affirmative Action Myth. You will not be sorry you did. He speaks like these very complex issues. He boils them down into very digestible bits.

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That's one of the things I love about Jason is he puts like sophisticated economic concepts in ways that even I could argue them. which I appreciate. And look, this is a battle that's going to be ongoing, especially because of Trump and his DEI efforts. Great to see you again, Jason.

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The affirmative action myth. That's exactly what it is. Out tomorrow. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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Tonight, for the first time, is entirely devoted to designers of color. As The New York Times puts it, focuses on the way black men have used fashion as a tool of self-actualization, revolution and subversion throughout American history and the black diaspora.

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According to the Met's website, the exhibition is sponsored by Louis Vuitton, Instagram, and some others, including Conde Nast, Anna Wintour's owner, the owner of Vogue, not her owner, the owner of her magazine. The New York Times says the show, the culmination of five years of work by Andrew Bolton, the Costume Institute's curator in charge to diversify the department's holdings.

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He's white, by the way, so is Anna. That's why they had to have their first ever host committee since 2019, at least, including... Many black people like Simone Biles, Spike Lee, Tanya Lewis-Lee, Janelle Monáe, Angel Reese, as I mentioned, and Usher. And then the co-chairs of the gala are ASEP Rocky, Formula One driver Lewis Hamilton, and Pharrell Williams.

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The honorary chair is, of course, LeBron James, who we all look to as a fashion icon. This is... to your point about like, not like taking some of our, you know, great authors and putting them into the black author section. I was at an event one time and the interviewer, which she didn't mean to do me any disrespect, but she was talking about my success in the cable news world.

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And she said, you were one of the highest paid women in all of journalism. And I said, you don't have to say woman. And it was true. I wasn't trying to toot my own horn on my salary, but it diminished it. It was like when I was at the peak of cable, no, there were actually maybe two people in the industry making more than me, and they were men, but the point is simply...

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Don't separate me out based on my lady parts. It diminishes me. And my whole goal is to get to the top period, not just top of the people who have vaginas. That is not what I want. And I'm going to guess that my black counterparts in fashion would really not like to have that same asterisk behind their designs or be patted on the head like a pet by Anna Wintour.

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Look, here we are, astronauts, with our in-depth training, getting ready for our historic flight that we also took. So it's Maureen and Sarah, I salute you too, because we also sacrificed for our country. And to all those of you who wrote in appreciating our sacrifice and our trailblazing.

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So let me give you another twist on this. You're the perfect person to be discussing this with. I mean, truly, like, the whole notion of your book, The Kingdom of Cain, meant to find God in the midst of evil, is what we kind of try to do every day on this show and on yours, too. I've heard you. And we are surrounded by truly evil events, like,

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And I do believe, I don't mean to sound too dramatic, but I think the Met Gala is one of them. I really do. I think the excesses of people like Sanchez and Bezos are among them. I feel like it crosses over to genuinely evil.

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People wrote in about how they never realized that because they drive their kids to school every morning, they too should be in the Indy 500. See, you get it. You get it. I salute you as well for your sacrifices and your expertise. Okay, moving on to other news.

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in a world where people are hurting, where people are struggling, where people have real concerns to be bragging about traveling with not just your super yacht, but it's sister, which just boards your helicopter. And by the way, it's not just them.

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There's an article about Mark Zuckerberg today talking about how he went over to the fjords in Norway and they have anti-helicopter rules there because there's these majestic mountains, you know, with inside of which are these skinny, beautiful, cold fjords, um, which are melted glaciers from years ago.

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Since stepping back from royal duties, Prince Harry and his attention-seeking wife, Meghan Markle, attempting to create a new empire in the media world. The couple airing out the royal family's dirty laundry across every platform available. Multiple podcasts, a memoir accompanied by a media blitz. reportedly earning them some $150 million, which also included a Netflix deal.

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They kicked it all off in 2021 with Oprah Winfrey and This Moment.

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Prince Harry offering no acknowledgement of any personal fault for his fallout with his family, closing the interview with this.

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King Charles is currently undergoing treatment for an undisclosed form of cancer. No word on whether Harry's latest grievances reached the king as he deals with his health issues. And that'll do it for your AM Update. I'm Megyn Kelly. Join me back here for The Megyn Kelly Show, live on SiriusXM Triumph Channel 111 at noon east, on YouTube.com slash Megyn Kelly, and on all podcast platforms.

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President Trump on Sunday sitting down with Meet the Press in a wide-ranging interview covering topics from the economy to the future of the MAGA movement. Mr. Trump giving the clearest response to date about running for a third term.

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President Trump names possible successors of the MAGA movement. Former staffers to Senator John Fetterman go on the record with New York Magazine, sharing a series of alarming claims about his behavior, health, and state of mind.

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The president then comparing the GOP to the current Democrat Party.

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Host Kristen Welker asking President Trump about comments he made last week regarding whether the tariff plan could lead to empty store shelves. President Trump responding, quote, maybe children will have two dolls instead of 30 dolls. Maybe the two dolls will cost a couple of bucks more than they normally would. The comments igniting a media firestorm.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Monday, May 5th, 2025, and this is your AM Update.

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The New York Post's cover story the following day, skimp on the Barbie. On Sunday, President Trump doubling down on the comment. A quote, I'm gonna quote what you said.

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On Canada, President Trump reacting to the re-election of Liberal Prime Minister Mark Carney.

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Mr. Trump going on to say taking Canada by military force is unlikely. Quote, I don't see it with Canada. I just don't see it. Prime Minister Carney is expected to meet with President Trump at the White House on Tuesday, marking his first official visit since taking office in March. Coming up, an in-depth hit piece on Senator John Fetterman. Why now?

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And remember to use code MK to save 15% off your order. On Friday, New York Magazine dropping a lengthy hit piece based off testimony from former staff raising questions about Senator John Fetterman's struggles with his health and overall fitness for office. Democrat Senator from Pennsylvania John Fetterman.

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rising to national fame in a highly contentious 2022 Senate race against Republican candidate Dr. Mehmet Oz, then-candidate Fetterman suffering a stroke just days before the Pennsylvania primary. His campaign acknowledged the incident, but critics later accused the team, including his wife, Giselle Fetterman, of downplaying the severity and withholding key details. about his long-term health.

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Concerns about Mr. Federman's health and fitness for office coming into sharper focus during his one debate against Dr. Oz, where Mr. Federman clearly struggled with auditory processing and communication.

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Despite the health issues, Mr. Fetterman narrowly eking out a win, capturing 51 percent of the vote. In 2023, Senator Fetterman checked into Walter Reed National Military Medical Center for six weeks seeking treatment for depression. Many at the time praised Mr. Fetterman for seeking the help he needed.

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In May of 2024, a year after he checked out of Walter Reed, Chief of Staff Adam Jentleson resigned from his post, citing his alleged alarm at Senator Fetterman's behavior and sending at that time an email to the senator's doctor outlining a series of concerns. Mr. Jentleson, at some point in the future, also reached out to Ben Terrace of New York Magazine. the author of this latest piece.

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Mr. Terrace describes the former chief of staff as, quote, a longtime Washington operator. He's worked for a liberal think tank and written a book about the filibuster. Mr. Terrace says he met Mr. Jentleson back when Jentleson worked for Harry Reid, saying, quote, we later became friends.

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At some point, Mr. Jentleson apparently shared with Mr. Terrace the text of the email he sent back in May of 24 to Senator Fetterman's doctor, outlining his concerns. from the New York Magazine piece, quote, it contained a list of them from the seemingly mundane, quote,

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He eats fast food multiple times a day, end quote, to the scary, quote, we don't know if he's taking his meds and his behavior frequently suggests he is not, end quote. Going on to say, quote, we often see the kind of warning signs we discussed. Jentleson wrote the physician, conspiratorial thinking, megalomania.

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For example, he claims to be the most knowledgeable source on Israel and Gaza around, but his sources are just what he reads in the news. He declines most briefings and never reads memos. High highs and low lows The profile describes an incident where Senator Fetterman was driving a car against the wishes of his staff well over the 70-mile-per-hour speed limit when he smashed his Chevy Traverse.

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into the back of a 62-year-old woman's Impala, totaling both cars. Mrs. Fetterman, a passenger in the backseat suffering from bruising of the lungs and spinal fractures. Senator Fetterman calling a staffer from the crash site saying he fell asleep while driving. The officer on scene told the staffer it was a miracle no one died.

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While some of the stories from staff involved safety issues, some also involved political issues, leading to questions about whether this attack is politically motivated. As a senator, Mr. Fetterman has repeatedly defied democratic norms. In the wake of October 7th, 2023, Senator Fetterman becoming the most outspoken Democrat supporter of Israel's war on Hamas.

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Mr. Fetterman lining his office with the photos of hostages kidnapped by Hamas. That support leading to 16 of his staff members to quit and eventually write an anonymous letter calling the senator's support for Israel, quote, a gutting betrayal.

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Washington Examiner reporter Selena Zito, who has been following Senator Fetterman for a long time, arguing on Fox his Senate staff does not understand his politics.

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Senator Fetterman, also the only Democrat to meet with President-elect Trump back at Mar-a-Lago. The sole vote to confirm Attorney General Pam Bondi as well, and initially signaling support for Pete Hegseth as defense secretary. Despite internal pressure, Mr. Fetterman told his staff he thought it would be a bad look for all Dems to vote against the person who would lead the armed forces.

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In the end, he did not vote for him. According to New York Magazine, the decision caused such internal stress, Mr. Fetterman even floated not voting at all. More from the piece, quote, the back and forth led to what one person in his office at the time called a full-blown meltdown.

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According to a contemporaneous text message from this staffer sent to a colleague, Fetterman had become so distraught about the Hegseth vote, as well as chatter in the media, that he might switch parties and become a Republican, that he spent part of the day locked in his office, fighting with Gisele, and crying while FaceTiming with staff.

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He says that they are trying to cancel him again, but we don't know who they are, a staffer said in a text. The piece describing many more incidents and seeming personality imbalances

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Mrs. Fetterman telling the magazine any comments from the former chief of staff were part of an effort to damage her husband's reputation, claiming that she, quote, would talk to John's doctors about what Adam Jentleson was telling me and they would be confused. Those doctors would tell me that their concerns were not with John, but with Adam.

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Senator Fetterman declining to comment on the allegations against him. Quote, he said that no one in his staff would know about his personal health situation and that anyone who told me otherwise was simply misinformed, wrote Terrace. Quote, there's not really anything to respond when that's just not accurate, he said. Mr. Fetterman is not up for reelection until 2028.

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Prince Harry, fresh off of leaving his royal duties and then losing his legal battle to keep his UK taxpayer-funded security, firing new shots at the royal family. What else is new? Then insisting that he really, really wants reconciliation. On Friday, a senior UK judge rejecting Prince Harry's appeal in a case challenging a 2020 decision

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downgrading his security status after stepping back from royal duties. Prince Harry argued that his security was unfairly downgraded after he quit being a working royal, leaving him and his family vulnerable while in the UK.

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According to the court's judgment, the judge acknowledged Harry made, quote, powerful and moving arguments, but concluded, quote, the Duke's sense of grievance does not translate into a legal argument.

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The court ultimately finding that changes to his security were, quote, an understandable and perhaps predictable reaction to the Duke of Sussex having stepped back from royal duties and having left the UK to live principally overseas.

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The prince, who has his own private security and plenty of money for more if he wants it, visibly agitated on Friday, describing to the BBC the terms of the arrangement.

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The prince then saying the security arrangement was effectively a form of blackmail meant to pressure him into staying in the royal family.

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The prince casting himself, yet again, as a victim, saying if anything were to happen to him, it would ruin the reputation of the UK.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, and happy Monday.

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Yeah. Eliana, this is what I was trying to say to her. Like, basically, you guys at The Times are not fooling anyone. Everyone knows that you're leftist. And everyone who listens to this show knows I'm more on the right.

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And in owning it and just expressly saying this is what I'm going to do in the ballot box and this is what I think you should do, it's not as big a transgression off of where we used to be as she would have us believe. There's no one in America who thinks the majority of New York Times staffers voted Trump.

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And speaking of corporate media, I went over to the New York Times earlier this month. I mean, the actual New York Times building, the belly of the beast, and sat down for two hours for their, quote, the interview podcast. This is part of the biggest podcast. podcast in America called The Daily, which the New York Times drops Monday through Friday.

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Yeah. Okay. So I, I've had these debates online and, um, the audience knows I love Sasha stone. She's, she has a great sub stack, uh, free thinking through the fourth turning, which she turns into a podcast. And I love she's been on the program, but she, she asked this online recently and I took a stab at answering it and we had like a back and forth on it, but she was asking like, well,

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I'm going to screw it up, but it was basically, why are they doing this? Like, why, why, why did they do this to us? They continue to pretend that they're, um, neutral and we know they're not. And I said that they genuinely believe they're neutral. Like they're not like, Oh, I'm, I'm biased and I don't want anyone to find out Eliana. They're like, no, I, we are the truthful ones.

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Like we're, we are the gatekeepers, you know, like what is life going to be like if there are no rules? What? And in fact, she and I kind of got into this too, or she's like, you know, what does that look like? You know, where the rules are out the window. And here's a little bit of that in stop five.

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And then on Saturday, they drop, quote, the interview podcast with millions of downloads per episode. And I have some thoughts and some behind the scenes moments for you on what happened, how it came out and why I did it. So let's get into it.

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The only way one succeeds in this medium is by violating all those rules that we used to have in journalism, where you don't really talk about yourself at all. You don't talk about your opinions. You might have a bias. Your only goal is to hide it, not to own it and then get past it with the audience. It's just a whole new world and it's okay.

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We used to be much more partisan and openly partisan in our journalism and our media. you know, 100 plus years ago, and we survived that just fine. And we will survive this just fine too. What the audience wants from me is my authentic self and no filter. What they can smell from a mile away is a phony. So they have no problem with me endorsing Trump, even if they don't like Trump.

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What they would have a problem with is me pretending I don't have a horse in the race and going out and trying to deliver the news as though I'm completely objective and I'm just as open-minded to Kamala as I am to Donald Trump. And the secret addendum to that, Eliana, is that is not only actually the rule for me in new media, it's actually the rule for you too, Lulu.

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But I genuinely believe that woman is there. Like I, you know, I don't remember ever tweeting that, but that sounds right. You know, like I genuinely believe that woman took to the congressional seat last week and was like, I'm not biased. And NPR is not biased. You know, like we, we check our bias. There's a, there's a legit wall between me and the actual reporters at NPR, Emily.

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And you know, that protects us from how, and then when you ask the followup question, we're like, What about the people on the other side of that wall? What have you done to satisfy yourself that they're not just like you? And reflecting those biases in their reporting, it's like the monkey with the see no evil, hear no evil, speak like I know nothing.

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The White House Correspondents Association is reversing course, deciding that we are now in such a, quote, consequential moment for journalism that they will be canceling their scheduled comedian for their big gala in late April and focusing only on honoring the very important work our corporate media does every day to fight for democracy or something like that.

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Because they see how many people literally how many people in Americans can say that they've interviewed both Trump accusers on the sexual assault or harassment front and Tara Reid. Literally, I might be the only one. The New York Times cannot say that. That's what I was trying to say to her.

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There was another part that didn't make the dance where I said, look, to me, it's funny that you're asking this about me and how I can maintain my ability to criticize him, notwithstanding my endorsement, because I said, this is the sin of which the left is guilty. You know, like no one on the left can really ask this question you're asking me.

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There are very few who actually do raise these questions on their own side and who are willing to go after Kamala and Joe Biden or Barack Obama or, God forbid, Michelle Obama in the way I go after the right and Trump. They just won't do it.

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If you listen to my show, you listen for a week, you'll have multiple examples of me raising questions about the way Trump has done something or his team has done something. But I don't have TDS. I can see the good he does very clearly, and I have no problem giving him credit for the wins.

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After that, she said, I'll say that Ezra Klein, one of my colleagues, was one of the earliest people to call for Biden to drop out of the race. And I said, where was the Times editorial doing that at any point prior to the debate?

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And he was only saying that he's old. Ezra Klein was saying Biden's too old. He wasn't saying he's lost it. You know, he's like, oh, he's too old to be. And, you know, she said, oh, well, I said, where was that? Where's the Times editorial doing that before that debate? She said, well, the editorial pages, as you know, are different than the news pages. And I said, where was the news coverage?

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Where was the news coverage? Where was Peter Baker documenting the fact that these brain doctors had been to the White House 10 times over the prior year? And she said, I'm not going to litigate the Times' coverage. And I understood she was not there to defend the New York Times, which I totally get.

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Like, she wasn't sent to me to come on my show as a representative of the Times and to defend them. She's like, I'm trying to do a nice profile of you, lady. Why do you keep attacking me? I was basically saying you can't ask me how I could possibly be fair to Trump, notwithstanding my endorsement. When you're the New York Times, you just can't do it.

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And here's let me explain to you why you can't do it. That's sort of where we were going, Emily.

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On any, it's not just the Times, we're picking on them because I sat with them, but... NPR with her little firewall. Those NPR reporters weren't running around covering the Joe Biden mental acuity problems. And you all saw last week and when it happened, what they did with the Hunter Biden laptop. Our viewers aren't interested in that fake news story. That's the problem.

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Neither the editorial nor the journalism side is open-minded to any bad news to Democrats that doesn't dovetail with their worldview. If a Democrat works with a Republican, they might do a negative story on him. Right. But like they're not going to cover things that could actually undermine Joe Biden's chances of reelection in an honest way. And everyone knows it. That's what I was trying to say.

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Like you go back 150 years in this country. We used to be very partisan. You know, that so-called yellow journalism period. People used to pick up different rags to read and they would completely affirm their worldview on the right and the left. And that's how life was. And we did just fine. And if we're in a country where you're, quote, siloed that way, it's okay.

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The reality is we already are there. That is where we already are. We're just pretending in the so-called mainstream that we're not, that those are still our gatekeepers. All right, moving on. past that particular subject, I do want to show this. So we did get into my long history with Trump, Eliana, and, you know, me asking him that question at the debate.

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And then he came after me and she raised a question that a lot of the left cannot, and even some on the right who don't love Trump, cannot understand. Like they can't understand how I, or frankly, anyone who

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who doesn't totally endorse the way Donald Trump has behaved his entire life or with respect to us or an individual like, let's say, John McCain or the Gold Star families in the first race and so on can come around to supporting him. Like they they like this is a genuine inability to understand. Like, please explain to me how you can endorse that man. And we got into E.G. and Carol.

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You heard me saying they're like, I don't believe her. But we expanded it just a bit and sought to. do think he's taken inappropriate liberties with women and gotten handsy with them in a way he's owned himself okay years ago when he was a celebrity and it is what it is that's the past um It's just about so much more than that.

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We are talking about how many people dying at the southern border because of the invasion that we've suffered under Joe Biden. We're talking about Ligon Riley, whose killer was let in under Biden. We put him on a taxpayer flight down to Georgia where he murdered her. I don't give a shit about Trump getting handsy with somebody 20 years ago. I want someone who will close the border, which he has.

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I want someone who will keep boys out of my daughter's sports, which he has. I want someone who will stand up to the insane DEI policies so that white kids will stop hearing in school that they're born with some original sin from which they cannot recover, which he has. And I mean, that right there, Eliana... I mean, that just sums up why so many of us happily, gleefully, hopefully, and, and just

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optimistically pulled the lever for Donald Trump in November and remain really grateful to him for the agenda he is unleashing. It is just that, you know, anybody on the left still obsessing about Trump and like he, Jean Carroll, or like when he was a celebrity, but it's just, people are dying. You know, young women are being killed. Young women are being hurt on the sports fields.

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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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Great to see you both. Good to be here. Um, okay. So why I went over to the New York times, they, they gave me this invitation and I talked with Steve Krakauer, my executive producer about it quite a bit. And Abby's funny. Cause she always like gets the incoming. She's like, don't do it. She's like, they're going to hate you. And she's very defensive of me.

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But Steve was more like, we should consider this one. And we talked about it. And I have a couple of things that we're promoting right now, like our AM update and our expansion into this more podcast network where we're bringing on other voices and trying to promote them. So I thought if I were to do it, this would be a time.

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,,,, ,,,,,,, And she's right. She did encourage me to launch the podcast. And I remember she sent me a text that said something like, the lesbians are for it. Because she was seeing a bunch of either lesbian podcasters or just friends after a drink we had. And I appreciated that. Now, honestly, I was very open-minded to Kara Swisher. Yeah.

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Understood our politics are very different, but you know, I have a lot of friends who are on the other side of the aisle and I would never make those the stakes of a relationship. You know where things went south was she didn't like my COVID commentary once I actually did launch the podcast, either on the show or on X, which was then Twitter.

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And the truth is I listen to The Daily most days, and I talk about The Daily on this show a lot, and I'm a weird fan of the show. I love to rip on it, but I do learn from it as well. I think it's a useful podcast. Sometimes it's useful just to bash. Sometimes it actually does provide information.

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And I was pointing out that young people were getting myocarditis, especially young teenage men, and dying and suffering the world over as a result of these vaccines. And it wasn't being disclosed. And I was citing Dr. Vinay Prasad, who was way ahead on this issue, was having pediatric cardiologists on his show and talking about it. She didn't like that. None of the left liked that.

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And unfortunately, she invited me to go on her podcast and I agreed. That's not the unfortunate part. I said, fine, I'll do it. I was fine. I'm fine mixing it up with people. I was scheduled to go on, I think on a Tuesday or a Wednesday and the previous Friday, so like five days prior to my sister died. My sister unexpectedly had a heart attack and died at age 58.

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And I had Abby text her assistant to say, MK has had something personal happen. Something personal came up and she's not going to be able to make it. This is five days in advance, but I knew very well I wasn't going to be doing anybody's podcast. And she responded, not the assistant, she responded and and said, oh, that sounds like a good idea.

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And I certainly hope she'll stay off X in the meantime. So her instinct was to question, right? Like why I was doing it. Like she wasn't really accepting that it was a personal thing that had happened to me. She thought I was trying to avoid her because I was on X saying controversial things that she was

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she was objecting to and that I didn't, I wasn't, you know, strong enough to go on Kara Swisher's podcast. Again, like somebody who doesn't fucking know me at all, right? Like I'm afraid of having somebody ask me tough questions or mixing it up. And Abby responded by saying, actually, her sister died. And she writes back, oh, well, I was only joking. I was only joking, you know, sorry.

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I'm sorry, but she's a bad person. You're a bad person. Did she ever send me a note? Did she ever say like, I'm so sorry about your sister? And like the last correspondence we had had was, sure, I'd be happy to come on your podcast. Then she shits on me to my assistant and finds out that she's a shit, that I've had a death in the family, someone close to me.

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And does she say, politics don't matter. I'm gonna shoot her a note. You know, we've had these drinks. I helped her, whatever. No, she says, oh, I was only joking. She tries to cover her own ass with, because she knows she's now made herself look terrible. And from that point forward, all she's done is rip on me and frankly, vice versa. I mean, I just see her very differently now.

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I think she's a bad person. I think there's a kind of person that cannot put politics to the side. She liked me when she thought I was a me too loving NBC News employee. And once she realized I wasn't, That I really am more conservative in my worldview. That I would question the COVID vaccines.

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Like I loved the podcast they did on what Trump's tariffs are doing down in Mexico when it comes to fentanyl labs. Like that was actually a fair and balanced piece. And I think they're making an effort to drop a few here and there that might be a little more acceptable to Trump. fans. In any event, I figured I would, I would do it.

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That suddenly I was too scared to go on with Kara Swisher and must be in bad faith in saying I can't make it after all. And not revealing in the first email my personal tragedy, which Abby would never do without my permission anyway. It's just... To me, this just shows what we're up against. And now she's out there like she's a rage machine. And what is she talking about weird left?

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Talking about you, Cara, you. You need to make an examination of yourself and your own heart. Okay. Any thoughts on that?

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Yeah. I don't, it's just like, I'm so over it. I don't know. Eliana, you've been like openly conservative for a long time. Like, do you have friends on the left? Do you maintain friendships? Do they make politics the stakes?

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It's so sad. It's really sad. Like I That's how different we are. Like I knew very well how leftist she was. I didn't care. I don't care. I just don't care about that in my friendships. Life is too short, you know, but she cared. Like she, once she saw where I stood on COVID, it was a bridge too far. She was, she turned off. She thought I was like somehow gross and afraid and a liar.

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Like it's okay, whatever. I mean, enough time spent on her, but yeah, go ahead, Emily.

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Yeah. I just don't understand why you wouldn't then reach out to me and say, Hey, hope you're okay. I just, I genuinely don't get it as mystery to me, whatever. Uh, it life's about, you know, the people who are there for you, not the ones who aren't. Um, okay. So let's move on. I think it's fascinating that the White House Correspondents Association has canceled this comedian.

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So I was asked to sit down with Lulu Garcia Navarro, who is a legit reporter. She's been all over the world covering actual news for the New York times and other outlets for many, many years. And I didn't know her very well. I knew she'd done JD Vance and she seemed fair with him. So I figured, all right, you know, here we go. And Michael Barbaro is the host of the one Monday through Friday.

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Now, this guy, Eugene Daniels, we've we've shown him to the audience before. He's the one he's openly LGB. I don't know about tea. I mean, he's posting pictures of himself in like trying to look like Beyonce and sexy Beyonce clothing and wigs. OK, this is the this is him. He's the president of the White House Correspondents. Okay. I don't, okay.

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The listening audience, please just go to youtube.com. Okay, I can't do this justice. Go about an hour into the show and you will see it, youtube.com slash Megyn Kelly. And Eugene thought this woman, Amber Ruffin, would be a great hire for the White House Correspondents dinner. And now why did he think that she would be a great hire for this dinner?

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Where the rule here at the Gridiron, at the Al Smith dinner, all of which are events at which the president will typically appear. I mean, it's a great get. The president will come and he'll make fun of himself and he'll take the press's barbs too, or those of a comedian. And it's like a spirit of unity. But the rule was always singe don't burn. That is the rule until Trump.

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And then these comedians started coming out and lighting bonfires about Sarah's Huckabee Sanders and her devil mascara or whatever the line was. I can't remember it. It was mean and ripping Trump like talk about burning. I mean, it was truly like five alarm fire burning. OK, we have we have an example of this. Yeah. Here is a montage. Oh, here we go.

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My team's way ahead of me of some of what we've seen over the years. It's not 11. against Trump.

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Nice. You're all supposed to keep it classy, but anyway, so Amber Ruffin gets hired for the gig and, um, hold on a second. Do we have, we have, okay. We have a little bit of how she sounded prior to getting hired. Here's take a listen.

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Oh, my God. That is just so typical leftist. It's not funny. It's political. It's ripping Trump. She's looking for applause, not laughs. And so Eugene Daniels was like, yeah, right on. That's our girl. Let's do this. So she gets hired and the Trump White House through a spokesperson, a deputy comms person tweets out. I think I think comms tweets out something like, really, really? Really?

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And she then goes on a media tour promoting her gig and the media tour gets her fired. Here in particular is what appears to have gotten her fired, Sot7.

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And truth be told, I kind of like him and we have a friendly relationship. We're not friends, but friendly. So in any event, I decided to go over there. So it was 90 minutes sitting down together in the New York Times building. And then it was another, I don't know, half an hour or 45 minutes the next day after you've had a time to reflect, which is kind of funny.

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This is who they hire. So that finally got her fired with this sanctimonious statement by Eugene Daniels, who had earlier said, I mean, this woman's beliefs about Trump and the right were not a mystery. We could play 10 more soundbites.

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But when he hired her on February 4th, he announced he personally chose her, that her talents are unique and the ideal fit for this current political and cultural climate. Her perspective will fit right in, right in, he said at this dinner and

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And only when she came out and said the truth about what she's going to do to Samantha Bee on this podcast was he then forced, because the White House and the right were completely ripping them to shreds. And I'm sure that there were many right-leaning journalists saying, we're not going, not going to go sit there.

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And the administration, I mean, Trump's not going already, but maybe they got an administration official or two, I'm sure all of whom said we're out. Then he issues this statement saying the White House Correspondents Association board has unanimously decided we are no longer featuring a comedic performance this year.

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I want to ensure the focus is not on the politics of division, but entirely on awarding our colleagues, he says, at this consequential moment for journalism, entirely on awarding our colleagues for their outstanding work, their scholarship and mentorship for the next generation of journalists. So what do you make of it, Emily?

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It's now there's not going to be a comedian because what we need to do is focus on the outstanding work of the White House press corps.

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Even that is kind of leftist, right? We're going to reflect and then we're going to chat again. So we went over to the New York Times building, guys, and it was very fun just walking in there. I have to say they were very nice. They were very polite. They treated me well. But, you know, there are all these heads of the New York Times like, whoa. I sat walking through like, yes.

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Yeah, or you know what would have been so easy, Eliana? Go for Jim Gaffigan, who spoke at the Al Smith dinner. He's a comedian. He's never been really a Trump fan, but he did a great job that night of ripping on both sides. Remember, this is the one that Kamala didn't show up at. It's this big Catholic ado in New York City.

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We were there, and Trump clearly finds him acceptable because Trump showed up. Gaffigan was there. Trump was there. Trump laughed. He was very able to make fun of himself, very open to it. If it's a singe, not burn. It's not that hard. Just freaking pay up. Go with Gavin and go with somebody, you know, Trump. But they didn't they don't care. They don't want Trump there.

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And by the way, Eugene Daniels knew that because he did a joint interview with this Amber Ruffin on Morning Joe when they made the announcement. And the following exchange happened. Look, it's not nine.

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No. No, no, she said, sitting next to Eugene. He's well aware of Amber's feelings about the Trump administration and Trump himself. That's how she got the invite. So why do you think he pulled it? Like, why didn't he just say, oh, calm down. We're going to stick by her.

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And then you could hear all the like, like, and we weren't even on the main floor. We were just all like on the podcast floor, but everybody would did like a one 80 as it was very funny. And the one guy sort of the handler who was dealing with me before Lulu came in and said, uh,

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That's not her goal. Like Stephen Colbert, like Jimmy Kimmel. Well, that was another thing I forgot to mention that Lulu and I had an exchange on my time at NBC and Blackface. And there was a point which I said, you know, look, I was asking the question about when did that go from being something you could do with impunity to something you'd get canceled for?

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she was like, everyone knew it was racist. And I said, did they really? I like everyone knows now, you know, thanks to what happened to me at NBC. That's also why we have more black Santas everywhere. So you're welcome everyone. Um, and so I said, did everyone knows now? And, uh, she was like, and then here's, I hear, I'll tell you what I said. I actually have it here.

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Sam, I meant to read this earlier. I said, I knew that that had been my experience growing up in the 70s and 80s that people used to do it. I just didn't know that NBC had been airing shows in the past couple of years with people doing it like Scrubs, like Jimmy Kimmel. I meant Fallon. You know, they opened the Oscars with Billy Crystal in blackface.

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They really want to honor the White House reporters who gave it all, left it all on the playing field this year. You know how they covered the Biden mental infirmity so closely and explosively and blew the lid, right? Oh, wait, no, that never happened. Will that award be given in April for all the people who completely blew it and instead of exposing that, ran cover for him?

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There were so many examples, I said in the interview, but I didn't have it at the ready because I wasn't expecting a huge controversy over it. What'd you say, Steve Krakauer? Um, and then Jimmy Kimmel of course did it too. Jimmy Kimmel did it doing Carl Malone. I mean, he was speaking in Ebonics. It was like the most offensive thing you've ever seen in your life. Fine.

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He's on ABC news every night tonight or ABC every night. Then I went on to say, she said it. She said, I thought everyone understands that blackface is racist. And I said, now they do. But trust me, some of this made the dance, but not much. I said, Jimmy Kimmel didn't understand it. Jimmy Fallon didn't understand it. NBC didn't understand it.

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You know, Lulu, she often takes people up into like the heart of the newsroom when the interview's over and introduces them to people. So she might do that with you. Let's just say that didn't happen. There was no tour of the New York Times newsroom. It was a no. I appreciate that. Why would she want to do that?

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Julianne Hough, who opened the Oscars doing a land acknowledgement the other night, didn't understand it when she was wearing it. Ted Danson didn't understand it. Whoopi Goldberg didn't understand it. I mean, I could keep going now all day. If you want to, I could give you 12 more names. So it's not true, Lulu, that everybody understood that it is not. So that was my question.

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When did it go from something that people used to do with impunity? Hello, Justin Trudeau. She included that part to something that will get you canceled. If you go back and look at my comments on the air, that is what I asked. And I went on to say, um, And for that question, as you point out ostensibly, they ruined my career. They bazooka'd me. Not they. Andy Lack. He bazooka'd me.

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By the way, he later lost his job. So anywho... That's this woman, Amber Ruffin, and her history was well known to these people. I have no sympathy for them. I'll just give you one other soundbite, which is why I think Eugene Daniels hired her and loved her so much and thought she was a perfect fit.

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Here she was in 2021 after the Kyle Rittenhouse verdict on her own show, which was on NBC's Peacock.

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So yeah, that's why he wanted her. And he learned the hard way. Those days are over. That kind of, you know, just divisive rhetoric is over. The vast majority of the country has rejected it. And we don't think it's funny. We don't think her brand of comedy is funny. So goodbye. Enjoy your ongoing obscurity, Amber.

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Um, in the world of podcasting and media shows is now Gavin Newsom, the governor of California. There is no bigger fan of Gavin Newsom than Bill Maher. He loves the guy, Bill snap out of it. And he had Gavin Newsom on his show on Friday night, couple of soundbites making the rounds, including this one on the trans issue sought 19.

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This gains Lulu zero street cred in walking through the New York Times newsroom with me. It was fine. But I have to say, I liked her. She was very kind to me, like in terms of our dealings behind the scenes. She was very nice. You can kind of tell when someone hates your guts and they're about to interview you. I didn't feel that way about her.

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You see, the right has weaponized, one might even say they pounced, Emily, on this issue.

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So he tried to tell Charlie Kirk, like nobody in my office has ever used that term Latinx. And then who was it that put this together? The long... Oh, it was the K-file, Andrew Kaczynski, who is one of the best things about CNN. It's a very short list. You got Harry Enten and you got Andrew. I'm sure there's something more. I like Tapper.

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He's a friend of mine, but I know our audience is not huge fans. Here's what he found, put together after Newsom was out there claiming, never, never.

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That's so fun. Gavin, Gavin, a simple Google search about yourself will serve you well before you make these sweeping claims. But on the same dishonest, disingenuous front, he tried to act like he's the reasonable one on the trans and the children issue, Eliana, which is A lie. His state is as radical as they come.

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Only Minnesota under Tim Walls is more radical, which to his credit, because Bill Maher is on the right side on this issue, meaning correct side. He did raise with Gavin Newsom, who then wiggled and wormed and which was typical in the interview, did not accept any responsibility. Here it is inside 18.

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And the interview itself didn't reflect some animus on her part or bad faith. I thought, you know, she's, I think, of the left and came at these issues from the left. That was understood and not surprising. But I didn't sit across from her thinking, this is someone who can't stand me. And that would have led to a bad interview had I felt that way. So that's why I think it all worked.

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God bless Bill Maher for trying, Eliana. I genuinely appreciate him with the retort of how can you snitch to one's parents when you're talking about a minor and very serious mental problems.

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He I mean, I said this on The Times interview as well. He is smart to start this. And the reason he's smart to start it is because he has no muscles, Emily, none. He's a sinewy little weakling when it comes to arguing any of these issues, especially cultural issues, because he, like all liberals, has never had to do it.

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So now he's trying to get his training, which is smart on his part, and it would be smart on the part of conservatives to say no because they declined to help him get in shape before the big bout. We're supposed to be helping Rocky, not Drago.

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It's a start. It's not sincere. It's not sincere. Like if it were sincere, he would totally own it and say, like, you know, I am genuinely sorry about this. It's Carol Markowitz has a great piece in The New York Post today writing about it was posted on Real Clear Politics, talking about how the left seems to be at least.

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grappling with the fact that wokeism was an epic fail and heartily rejected by the American people, has been and continues to be. But they want to quietly move past it without any acknowledgments of what they did. And same on COVID, same exact thing on COVID. The New York Times two weeks ago with its piece like, gee, it really looks like it came from a lab. Why didn't anyone discuss that?

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It came off fine. I was more relaxed in giving her answers. And she was a good interview in terms of saying, tell me about that, as opposed to just trying to hammer me on various things. So in any event, it posted on Saturday. I hope people take a listen to it.

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So it's like they're trying to do this little sleight of hand, not little, large sleight of hand because they lost that. They're They looked at that swing state polling, which said they lost because of these issues. The trans thing, especially in sports, number one. And now they're quietly trying to just reverse where they stand without any acknowledgement of what they've done. And frankly.

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Of the reality that 30 days ago, they unanimously voted against a very short, clean, simple bill in the U.S. Senate that would have said boys may not participate in girls sports nationwide, period. They all reject not one Democrat. said I will vote for that.

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And nor did Gavin Newsom come out and say, I would really like it if our California state senators or US senators would vote for this because it's unfair. I was an athlete. I have daughters. Let me tell you why. No, he's not leading on this because none of this is sincere. It is all electoral politics. It's smart electoral politics, but it's not sincere. Okay, I stole the last word.

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Thanks for having me. And thanks to all of you for listening. We are going to have two episodes coming out tomorrow. I'm actually going to do like a speech, a speaking engagement tonight. So we actually have a very interesting show that's on tape that is all new content for you during the 12 o'clock hour tomorrow.

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And then we will drop a new podcast that I will be doing live later in the day tomorrow when I get off the airplane. So look forward to that. Thank you all as always for watching and listening. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear. We'll be right back. Why? Well, not all tax resolution companies are the same.

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We'll talk about a couple of the sound bites and a couple of the outtakes just because those are always fun to know, you know, what happened. Um, we released a couple on social media over the weekend and I'll tell you the biggest divide between Lulu and yours truly, which we talked about was she didn't understand exactly what it is people like us do. the two women I'm looking at and myself, right?

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That like, we do offer political commentary and we do offer our own opinions, but we also are journalists, but we all exist in this new ecosphere, right? Like we all have podcasts. We all have direct relationships with our audiences. We're all in new media as opposed to corporate legacy media. You know, the free beacon is its own entity, but I mean, Eliana does instinct wretches and is very honest.

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In any event, that was where we really kept tripping wires because she didn't get how I can still call myself a journalist and have endorsed Donald Trump. Which one is that Steve? Okay. That's number four and we'll kick it off with that one.

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Yeah. Well, I'm glad you asked that because I feel like part of our discussion before and today is getting at something that Like our wires are crossing. Your wires and my wires are crossing in a way. Like you're kind of looking at me and saying, it's not behaving like a typical journalist. And it is still calling itself a journalist. And I'm trying to say to you, yes, I'm still a journalist.

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I'm trying to understand it. Yeah, no, I know. I'm not saying you're judging me. Right. But I'm trying to say to you, yes, I'm still a journalist, but I'm in this new ecosystem where the old rules don't apply. You know, I'm in this world with, yes, Charlie Kirk and Dan Bongino and Ben Shapiro, but my world is also Joe Rogan with these in-depth interviews and also Theo Vaughn.

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And it's a very large world and how the consumer receives it is by going on youtube.com on their television screen or going to the vertical integrations on Instagram or TikTok and just taking in content. What's the content that you wanna receive? I'm on the list of content creators.

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And so the fact that I'm also a journalist who breaks news and reports on news is like an extra, but what's most important in my business now is authenticity, that you are honest with the audience.

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Cuz yeah, that happened over the past 12 months since their last big gala. Or are we just gonna honor the reporters who are taking a dump on Donald Trump every day? I can't wait to find out. I was invited to this shindig, and as I have for every year over the past 10, I declined to go. I'm not going to this.

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And really, this is a point we just kept coming back to where she thinks in a way you can be too honest if you get on stage with a political candidate and endorse him and tell people you're voting for him and you think they should too, that you've crossed a bridge. that burns as you walk across it and you can never return back over to journalism land. And I just didn't see it that way at all.

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We had a long debate and a lot of debates about owning one's bias. And she didn't understand if you own your bias, like doesn't that sell your soul basically? That how can the audience then trust you to rip on your own side? And the following soundbite is in that context, top one.

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I think the most serious thing I've heard about him has been the E. Jean Carroll allegation that he sexually assaulted her in a Bergdorf dressing room. And I don't believe one word of that. There are other women who have said. I've interviewed some of them. But look, the things I heard were included things like he got handsy on an airplane. Now, I don't know whether that happened or it didn't.

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But do I find that a deal breaker for a possible politician? Not really. At least I reported on their stories. and did them the courtesy of bringing them to air in front of millions of people and let the audience make up its mind.

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My problem is more with these Democrats who will bury these allegations against their candidates or their candidates' spouses and then play holier than thou when they're looking at Donald Trump.

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No, I'm still a journalist. I mean, I break news all the time. And when I sit with Trump or anybody else in the administration, I ask tough questions. I mean, as recently as September of 23, I interviewed Trump and he got so mad at me. He didn't talk to me for six or seven months. So it's not... Look, it's a tough job to do. You have to be able to hit the people you admire. And I do.

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You know, I've hit them all. Right before the election, I ripped on Trump's Madison Square Garden rally as too bro-tastic and got specific about why. You have to understand, like, if... If you haven't sold your soul, you have to be willing to criticize the people even you that you admire on your quote side.

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And my owning my bias by going out there on stage with Donald Trump and saying, I'm voting for him and you should too, is a bonus. when it comes to my credibility. Now, everybody has zero doubt about where I stand and they can filter everything I say through the appropriate lens.

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What typically happens in journalism is they say they have no bias and then they just work it out in the printed word or on their shows without owning it. But the audience knows it and it creates a distrust and a divide. Okay, just two points as an addendum, and then we'll get into it. So I went on in the one answer, and she did fine. I have no problem with the way the Times edited the interview.

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This is not a Ben Smith situation where I just thought he just tried to hammer me for his own reasons. She was very fair. But I just want to say that and that one answer where I'm like that what I have a problem with is these people who will go after Donald Trump and play holier than thou when covering him, but will bury the allegations against Democrats.

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And what I said at the end of that, because we have a transcript of it, was Like I didn't see a lot of questions by the Times or anyone else about why Doug Emhoff allegedly wailed on his ex-girlfriend, the one he dated right before Kamala. Where was the deep investigation into whether he fathered a love child with the nanny and why the ambulance came to her home on the night she lost the baby?

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When I was a very young reporter, I found this exciting before I understood what was what in Washington and back, frankly, when it was relevant and kind of cool. I hate to tell the people going, those days are over. You're now sort of saying yes to what's become a loser party where they can only get the dregs. And I urge anybody with ego and self-respect to say, no, no, I'm not going to that.

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Nobody cared about that. I've actually reported on both of those stories, which is something about two reporters in America can say.

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And then added just a bit later when she was like, I don't get how you can go out and endorse this guy, understanding he's going to make mistakes, he's going to do things that are wrong, who you know, she says, will have to be criticized because that's the nature of any political leader.

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And I said, you know, see to me, it's funny to hear you ask that because I guarantee you my audience is going to laugh at this question because they're going to say that is rich coming from the New York Times, which did more to run cover for Joe Biden than virtually anyone else in media. I don't run cover for Donald Trump. I've ripped on Trump endless numbers of times.

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I put my record of ripping on Trump up against the record of anybody in the leftist media of running against Joe Biden or calling out his infirmities. Even when Trump was running, one of the reasons why he attacked me after I hosted a presidential debate that he did not participate in is because I raised questions about Trump's mental acuity.

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And I had noticed he was having some word slips saying the wrong thing about Obama when he meant Biden, World War III when he meant two. And he got mad and he attacked me, which is totally fair game. I am fair game. I'm in the arena and I'm fair game. I'm not above getting attacked by him. I wasn't in 15. I'm not in 25.

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So to me, it's funny to hear you ask that question because you must not listen to the show that often. Okay. So having said all that, Emily, your thoughts.

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But they shouldn't get to feel that way because they're not. The White House and many Trump supporters recoiling at the remarks. Within 48 hours, the White House Correspondents Association announcing her appearance had been canceled. President Eugene Daniels writing in a statement, quote, at this consequential moment for journalism.

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I want to ensure the focus is not on the politics of division, but entirely on awarding our colleagues for their outstanding work and providing scholarship and mentorship to the next generation of journalists. The tone marking a sharp departure from Daniel's enthusiasm during a joint MSNBC appearance in February with Ms. Ruffin when he proudly announced her selection as the evening's entertainer.

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No. White House Deputy Chief of Staff Taylor Budowich responding on X, quote, It's an indictment on how broken and useless this organization has become. So sad that such a storied and consequential group has been so quickly driven into irrelevancy. Oh, well, good riddance. Tensions rising between the White House Correspondents Association and the Trump White House in recent weeks.

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The conflict beginning when the Associated Press refused to use the newly renamed Gulf of America moniker, prompting the Trump administration to bar the outlet from participating in the White House press pool. The Correspondents Association condemned the White House publicly in response.

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Shortly thereafter, Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt announcing her office would be taking control of press pool assignments, a task historically managed by the White House Correspondents Association. The pool is a smaller group of reporters granted access to more exclusive spaces like the Oval Office and Air Force One.

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Axios reporting on Sunday, some members of the Correspondents Association want to de-escalate the conflict. This, as Ms. Leavitt says, she will be taking control of the briefing room's seating chart as well. For decades, establishment media was in control of who sits where in the briefing room, ensuring the so-called mainstream outlets access and a seat in front of the cameras.

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A senior White House official telling Axios the new arrangement will provide more favorable access to to online influencers and newer outlets. And that'll do it for your AM update. I'm Megyn Kelly. Join me back here for The Megyn Kelly Show, live on SiriusXM Triumph Channel 111 at noon east, on youtube.com slash Megyn Kelly, and on all podcast platforms.

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After a week of intense pressure from Democrats and the media, President Trump is standing by National Security Advisor Mike Walz, despite seemingly inadvertently adding a reporter to a private group chat outlining attack plans on Houthi rebels. Axios reporting Trump insiders saying, quote,

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Trump administration officials stand united against calls to fire National Security Advisor Mike Walz for inadvertently adding a reporter to a private group chat.

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President Trump seriously considered firing National Security Advisor Mike Walz, but cooled down and talked himself out of it, partly to deny his critics the satisfaction. President Trump telling NBC News in an off-camera interview, quote, I don't fire people because of fake news and because of witch hunts. Vice President J.D. Vance on Friday from Greenland also lending support to the team.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Monday, March 31st, 2025. And this is your AM Update.

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Mr. Walz vacated his congressional seat to take a job with the Trump administration. The special election will be held tomorrow in Florida's 6th District. The current balance of power in the House is 218 to 213, giving Republicans a very slight edge. In tomorrow's election, Republican Randy Fine is facing off against Democrat Josh Wheal.

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The media portraying the race as a source of anxiety for the GOP.

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Democrat fundraisers pouring millions into the race. Mr. Fine raising just shy of $1 million compared to Mr. Wheel's $9 million. President Trump in November winning this district by 30 points. Despite a recent poll showing both candidates neck and neck, analysts say a Republican victory is likely.

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The New York Times reporting the 6th district is home to twice as many registered Republicans as Democrats. NBC political correspondent Steve Kornacki previewing a likely Democrat talking point if this race is anywhere closer than President Trump's 30 point margin of victory.

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Columbia University gets a new interim president, Congresswoman Elise Stefanik, casting doubt on the latest's ability to crack down on illegal campus protesting. President Trump warning Russian President Vladimir Putin if Russia is responsible for delaying a Ukraine peace agreement, there will be repercussions.

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Another special election Tuesday in Florida's 1st District to replace former Republican Congressman Matt Gaetz. Republican Jimmy Patronis is reporting that his opponent, Democrat Gay Valemont, is outracing him 7-1. Mr. Gaetz beat Ms. Valemont in November by 32 points. before resigning his seat in hopes of securing the post of Attorney General.

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Another big race on Tuesday, the Wisconsin Supreme Court. Voters there will determine if the court will maintain a 4-3 liberal majority or flip to conservative. Liberal Judge Susan Crawford is taking on conservative attorney Brad Schimel. At stake, control over congressional district mapping in a critical swing state.

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Republicans currently hold six of Wisconsin's eight congressional seats, despite the state's closely divided electorate. If liberals maintain their majority on the Wisconsin Supreme Court, the current GOP-drawn maps could be thrown out, shifting the balance of power in the House of Representatives, potentially costing Republicans two congressional seats.

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We will have more on this story in the days ahead. On Friday night, Columbia University's embattled interim president Katrina Armstrong resigning from her post. Columbia already facing $400 million in frozen federal funding with a threat of more cuts to come. Agreeing to implement measures allowing authorities to crack down on illegal protesting as well as some academic reforms.

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Colombia became the epicenter of nationwide anti-Israel and anti-Semitic protests in the wake of Israel's war on the Hamas terrorist organization. Many Jewish students at Colombia reporting incidents of harassment on campus, which is unlawful under federal law, saying faculty and staff have done little to nothing to support them.

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Crimes like vandalism, trespassing, and others were also committed by the protesters. Ms. Armstrong caught between mounting pressure from the Trump administration and intense pushback from her own faculty and staff. Columbia professors in the weeks leading up to President Armstrong's resignation raging against her decision to cooperate with the Trump administration.

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The Wall Street Journal reporting Ms. Armstrong publicly insisted to the Trump administration that Columbia is cracking down on illegal protesting while privately downplaying the new measures to her staffers.

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The Department of Education releasing a statement in response to the resignation saying, quote, "'The action taken by Columbia's trustees today, especially in light of this week's concerning revelations, is an important step toward advancing negotiations between the university and the task force to combat anti-Semitism.'"

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The Iranian regime rejecting calls for direct nuclear negotiations as the Trump administration promises a wave of bombs, not to mention tariffs, if they don't come to the table. The White House Correspondents Association canceling its featured entertainer for the planned annual dinner. What was the deal breaker? All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update.

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Education Secretary Linda McMahon on Sunday laying out the administration's expectations.

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The new interim president announced Friday, Claire Shipman, is a former CNN White House correspondent who was once married to Obama administration press secretary Jay Carney. An October House report on college campus antisemitism revealing a 2023 text message from Ms. Shipman to then-Columbia president Manu Shafiq Ms.

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Shipman then referring to the House anti-Semitism on college campus hearings as, quote, Capitol Hill nonsense. Republican Congresswoman from New York, Elise Stefanik, on Sunday responding to Ms. Shipman's new appointment.

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Former President Shafiq resigned from her post in August 2024. Six federal agencies are currently investigating Columbia University. Billions in federal funding are on the line. Coming up, President Trump issuing a warning to Russian President Vladimir Putin. If he finds Russia at fault for holding up a peace deal in Ukraine, there will be consequences.

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President Trump issuing a warning to Russian President Vladimir Putin if he finds Russia at fault for holding up a peace deal in Ukraine, tariffs are coming. President Trump telling NBC News, quote, I am going to put secondary tariffs on all oil coming out of Russia. If you buy oil from Russia, you cannot do business in the United States.

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The president's comments spurred by recent televised remarks from President Putin. Mr. Putin suggesting Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky lacks legitimacy to sign a peace deal. President Zelensky last year suspending elections in Ukraine, citing martial law. The Russian leader going on to say the U.N. could set up a temporary government in Ukraine.

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Any change in leadership will inevitably delay a lasting ceasefire agreement. Mr. Trump setting a one-month deadline for getting a full ceasefire deal before punitive measures kick in. Last week, Russia and Ukraine agreeing to a partial ceasefire in the Black Sea and against energy infrastructure.

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Prior to Mr. Putin's remarks on Friday, President Trump had indicated that negotiations were progressing well in a cabinet meeting.

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President Trump telling NBC his anger with Mr. Putin will, quote, dissipate quickly if he does the right thing. The two leaders scheduled to speak again later this week. On Sunday, the Iranian regime rejecting President Trump's offer to begin direct nuclear negotiations with the U.S.

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Iranian President Massoud Pazeshkian leaving the possibility of indirect talks open, delivering the reply through Oman. This response just days after President Trump addressed Iranian nuclear ambitions from the Oval.

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President Trump now promising a wave of bombings and additional tariffs targeted at Iran if its leaders do not come to the negotiating table. In 2018, President Trump withdrew from the JCPOA, a nuclear agreement with Iran negotiated under the Obama administration. President Trump calling the deal, quote, a horribly one-sided deal that should never, ever have been made.

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Instead, President Trump opting for a campaign of, quote, maximum pressure to force Iran to abandon its nuclear ambitions, imposing sanctions on key Iranian industries like banking and oil, designating their military as a foreign terrorist organization, issuing secondary sanctions against countries working with Iran and isolating the Iranians diplomatically.

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Iran, though economically weakened, did not return to the table under the first Trump administration or the Biden administration, which aggressively sought to revive the joint agreement. A February UN atomic agency report revealing the Iranian regime has enriched enough uranium to manufacture six nuclear weapons and now just lacks a delivery system.

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In response to Trump administration warnings, Iranian leaders firing back with threats of their own. Iran's parliament speaker saying, quote, if the Americans violate Iran's sovereignty, it will be like a spark in a gunpowder depot, setting the entire region ablaze. In such a scenario, their bases and their allies will not be safe.

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In 2024, Tehran launching two direct missile attacks on Israel, firing hundreds of rockets in both instances. Israel's missile defense systems intercepting the vast majority, limiting the damage. The White House Correspondents Association canceling comedian Amber Ruffin's remarks at its upcoming annual dinner scheduled for April 26th.

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In a tradition dating back to 2003, the dinner features a comedian roasting the president and the press covering him. Under the first Trump administration, the president declining to attend as the comedians turned what was supposed to be a light roast of the administration into scorched earth, nasty attacks.

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Ms. Ruffin promising late last week on the Daily Beast podcast that her approach would be no different.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and today's true crime Christmas special. Today, we are diving deep into the case of Alec Murdoch, and there are updates in this incredible case, believe it or not.

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This is probably something they won't be expecting. Thank you, Lumen, for sponsoring this episode. Valerie, welcome. Thank you so much for being here. Thank you. Okay, so this is all so fascinating. And one of the most eye-opening things I read was about Alec Murdoch's background. He comes from a long line of deeply... ethically problematic people, which I did not know.

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So he killed his own wife and his son, Paul, who had been at the helm for that boating accident. And it was an attempt to garner sympathy, like to make him a sympathetic character so that his law firm would...

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move away, would stop investigating him so that the lawsuit involving Paul would be less strong because, you know, the main culprit would be gone and who would put this poor man now through the torture of seeing a civil lawsuit through. It was an effort to just change his own financial and reputational fortunes.

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And he had, prior to getting arrested... done what I guess it was his great grandfather did, which was attempt to create a suicide situation that would lead to an insurance payout. I mean, now it's like kind of all connecting.

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All you ever heard about him was that he came from this very storied family. They were lifelong solicitors or like the prosecutors in their town in South Carolina, very well respected. They controlled everything. It was far more nefarious than that. Can you take us back?

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Do we think he did not intend to die then when that that guy who was next to homeless? I mean, that guy seemed, you know, not like a sophisticated character when he got him to, quote, shoot him. But it just grazed his head. That was always so confusing to me. And I'm like, was this some sort of a sharpshooter?

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How did the guy manage to actually barely connect with him to the point where it looked like he actually had been shot at, but not so much that he actually killed him?

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Do we know, do we ever figure out, and by the way, just for the audience, I'm talking today to Valerie Borlein. She wrote the book, The Devil at His Elbow, Alex Murdoch and the Fall of a Southern Dynasty. Do we know where all the money went? This is one of the mysteries, right? It just seemed like Alec was taking in so much money via fraud from the law firm, the clients and so on. Yeah. And

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Where did it go? Like, it seemed like he claimed he just spent it on drugs. But the conclusion by many was always how many drugs could that could he possibly have taken? He took in more than he could ever have spent was the layperson conclusion on the on the funding.

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So that that makes more sense that that we've got millions missing than that. He spent it all on the drugs. All right. So then we go to trial. He does wind up arrested. This all comes out. There is the moment he is found guilty. Actually, we have that. Let's just watch that. So 51.

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Okay, and that's interesting for a few reasons. One, he was found guilty. Two, old Becky Hill reading the verdict. would come to play a major role in this story, which no one knew at the time. But Becky almost got this verdict thrown out because of her behavior behind the scenes with the jurors. And could it still her behavior get this verdict thrown out? Is that totally settled?

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Yes. I mean, it really does show you, if you have a family, a father, a grandfather who are committing crimes and teaching you either explicitly or implicitly that that's okay, your odds of becoming a criminal are obviously much higher. But hello, women of the world, pay attention. Pay attention to your spouse, the guys you're dating. It can work the other way around too. And

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I know that we had a hearing in which a different judge said, no, I'm not throwing out the verdict. But could that be reversed on appeal? I imagine Alex lawyers are taking that up.

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And the jurors come forward to say, yes, at least one of them said she influenced my verdict.

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What they come from, who they come from. So his great-grandfather, Randolph Murdoch Sr., basically committed suicide and insurance fraud at the same time? Mm-hmm.

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Yeah, that they they're going to argue they were held to to too high a burden of proof to prove jury tampering and that a lower standard should have been applied, which would have allowed them to prove jury tampering, which would allow him to get a new trial. The justice told was great when she came in and held that hearing over Becky Hill. The allegations against Becky Hill just got weirder.

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When she was up there, I say this lovingly, she seemed like a tough old broad in the best sense, you know, like she wasn't going to tolerate any nonsense.

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She made the comment about Becky Hill that would become very well known. Here it is, Zot 52.

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And that led to bad behavior by Becky Hill, which got this whole thing mucked up. But do you remember, it's been a while since we've covered this, but she also has a son who worked in the courthouse and there was an allegation about him wiping his phone and wiping her phone on the day that they were supposed to turn them over for an internal ethics investigation. It smelled to high heaven.

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So now here we are where he's appealing. He's going to argue Becky Hill mucked up the trial to the point where he gets another trial. We don't love the chances, but one never knows. And in the meantime, the wrongful death lawsuit that Mallory Beach's family brought against Alec, is that totally resolved?

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I'm sure it's a, it's a special form of sentencing for you because every time you get into a

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So what, if anything, is happening with the other piece of this story, which is the possible outcome? There's only one other piece by by Buster, Paul's older brother of a young gay classmate who was killed on the road. But there's just only speculation that it was Buster Murdoch, not actual proof. And they were going to reopen that investigation in the wake of all of this. Where does that stand?

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So in the time we have left, what's life like right now for Buster Murdoch, the son whose entire family is... has been killed or is now in jail. And for Alec Murdoch, who was living this life of excess and now is convicted of double homicide, not to mention all the fraud charges that were brought against him separately, which he was also found guilty on.

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Mm-hmm. You'd have to go someplace else. I mean, there's a brother. Alex's brother seemed non-sociopathic. Perhaps there's some hope there. I don't know. Raised by that man with that family lineage.

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Wow, great reporting, Valerie. Thank you. Her name is Valerie Borlein. And the book, again, is The Devil at His Elbow, Alex Murdoch and the Fall of a Southern Dynasty. Google it, check it out, Devil at His Elbow. Thank you so much for coming on and telling us the story and the updates. Thank you so much for having me. Thanks for joining us today and have a very happy new year.

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And he also continued fraud and potential violence against women.

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Tell us about the mistress who got on the wrong side of Alec Murdoch's grandfather.

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Yes, it is amazing. I mean, I cannot you must have been just slack jawed when you read up about the direct line from which he came. And it's it makes sense of everything. So it didn't stop there. It didn't even skip a generation.

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Alex's father also had a history of paying people off to cover up a boat accident, which, of course, would set off Alex's own story with a different boat accident as well.

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Yes. Same. I'm having the same reaction just sitting here. So then of course we get to Alec and this whole thing that we watched, this double murder trial in which he was found guilty of killing his wife and his own son was set off by that boating accident. The second one, not the one you discussed where the woman was run over. Yeah.

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But more recently with the younger generation, while Alec was out on a boat, was drinking and they had an accident and Mallory Beach was thrown from the boat and wasn't found for some time later and she was dead. And that old Murdoch instinct to cover it up

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run cover for those involved, or especially for Alec, kicked in and would set off a chain of events that would ultimately destroy the Murdoch family.

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for among other reasons, he was then sued by the Beach family. And that in the course of that lawsuit, he would have to produce discovery, speaking to his economic status, his financial data, and so on. And he was, we know separately now, running a massive fraud, stealing from his law firm, had a massive drug problem, or so he testified, and was very worried this was all gonna come out.

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He would be exposed. And at the same time, His law firm. Was this coincidental? Was this coincidental, Valerie, that like the law firm started an investigation of Alec at the same time for possible ethical breaches? Or were those two things related, the lawsuit and the law firm getting interested?

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, and happy Monday. There has been massive political fallout, international and domestic, to the Oval Office showdown Friday afternoon between President Trump and President Zelensky.

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It's so sad, Link. He has to get credit. He started a film about the Holocaust. Like, yeah, you might want to give it a mention.

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It's a fair point, but it is very noticeable when they try to lump it like anti-Semitism and racism too. Racism and the otherism. I want to get everybody clapping for me. Okay, so let's talk about the movie Anora, which I haven't seen it. For the record, Podoritz thought it was wonderful and actually thought we should all go see it. I don't know.

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It's about, I guess, like this prostitute or sort of, I don't know if she's a full prostitute, but she's given it up for reasons other than love. And... It's supposedly it's got like a great. Oh, yeah. You have to you have to say sex worker. You're not allowed to say prostitute. And that's what that what I want to talk to you about.

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Like they all tried to elevate that, you know, that job, that that choice as something kind of laudable, you know, like you have construction workers and you have, you know. Dairy workers and you have sex workers. It's just like, it's a choice. It's just a totally fine choice. Here is Sean Baker accepting best original screenplay for that movie, Anura Sat 3.

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You have to have like 38% of the cast and or crew be LGBTQ or also women or BIPOC. You're not eligible to win that award. unless you have quotas met on your cat. It's ridiculous. They got robbed. Um, that's my own opinion. Okay. But there was a lot of drama there. There's a lot actually that went down that I found quite interesting and I think you will too. So we're going to start there.

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And then here's Mikey Madison, who accepted the Best Actress Award for the same movie.

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Yes. Can I just say something about that? Because I saw the same thing. Demi Moore, she got some sort of strange thing done to her face a couple years ago. I remember she was walking in, I think, the Balenciaga, one of those massive brands, runway shows, and she looked shocking. There had been so much work. And then she went to a surgeon who undid that and she looked much better.

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She looked she started to look normal, just like a normal woman again. And she looked great. And she's starting to drift over again. It's starting to happen again with the cheeks in particular, Link.

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Yeah, look at Demi Moore there. Look at her. She's starting to look different. The cheeks are too much. I have a message to my fellow women. It is okay to have lines on your face. It's fine. And honestly, I'm big on Botox. I've told the audience that. I am very anti-filler. Because all it does is make you look bloated and kind of fat. I'd much rather have these lines here. I really would.

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They're lines. They're lines because I'm 54. Lines come on your face when you're 54. You can do something about the ones up here. You can't do much about these. And that's fine. Might as well let them come instead of make yourself look weirdly fat and bloated on an otherwise stunning face. Christian, care to weigh in on the beauty debate?

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It's just a lot of pressure. I mean, being in Hollywood is a lot of pressure. I'm like torn because I feel for these women. They can't have a career past a certain age unless they get all this stuff done. But then you do need the best friend or like the husband to be like, sweetheart, you've gone too far. Like Link said, more is not more in some areas. Do me less. Do me less.

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Facial filler is definitely one of them. All right, back on the subject of anti-Semitism, the movie that won Best Documentary was called No Other Land, which was an outrage because it should have been Matt Walsh's film for The Daily Wire. I mean, just pick your film, really. It could have been What is a Woman, but the one about DEI and Robin DiAngelo, that should have been nominated.

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Uh, joining me now, influencer and commentator, link Lauren and Christian Toto host of the Hollywood in Toto podcast. The IRS is the largest collection agency in the world. And with April 15th fast approaching, it's more aggressive than ever. If you owe back taxes or have unfiled returns, waiting is not a great option. Don't do it.

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They are too afraid of Matt, and he didn't get it. So this movie, No Other Land, won. And here is a soundbite of that movie from its trailer, which is about what's happening in Palestine.

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They have bulldozers. They have bulldozers. Filming you. There's a bulldozer knocking down settlements. I need air. Oh, my God. Palestinians are upset. I don't want them to take our home. Could open eyes, eyes, change minds. Okay. So that's, this is a film about, you know, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict told from one point of view only. And it won best documentary.

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OK, and then you got more of it when their director got up there as well. OK, you get the gist. So all the time in the world for that kind of messaging. And then again, contrast Christian with the Adrian Brody anti-Semitism and racism and othering against all of it. That's that's about as much as the Israelis or Jews in America got.

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I was shocked, Link, that Emilia Perez did not... Enora was the big winner about the, quote, sex worker. But I was shocked that Emilia Perez did not win the Best Picture award because it's been winning. And it's about this... Colombian drug cartel lord who decides to go trans and, quote, becomes a woman.

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And then it turned out that guy, he was nominated as one of the best actresses, even though it's a man, said a bunch of things that sound, you know, right-wing-ish and got canceled because while, you know, arguably offensive, I think the real sin, as you pointed out earlier, was the principles, the underlying principles are more right-leaning, which is not okay.

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But Amelia Perez did get one big win. Zoe Saldana won for best supporting actress. She's the one in that ridiculous clip that we always play when the guy's like, vaginoplasty, yes. Rhinoplasty, yes. Yes. And so she won, and here's a bit of that in Sat 16. Mommy!

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Yeah. Talk about like, thank your director. Thank your family. You know, talk about your process. Even with a sex worker thing, it would have

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been fine to say i thank the women who helped me understand this role but like i honor and respect that why what no i we that's this is not something we want held up as a value for our young daughters like sure sure this is an option for you honey but sitting there with my i didn't watch it but if i had been 13 year old daughter sure sex worker it's on the list you could look into that you spread your legs for any tom dick or harry who comes along and they give you

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You know, a meaningful wage, potentially, if you're one of the lucky ones. What a ridiculous joke. These people would never want their family members to go into this totally respectable, honorable line of work. Anyway, Link, your thoughts on it.

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Yes, that's really, that's an excellent observation and really kind of the main takeaway, is it not, Christian? Like, do you remember, I remember when I was a young lawyer, I was practicing newly as a lawyer in Illinois. It was 1995. And there was this great guy I knew who was on Michigan Mile in Chicago.

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He had this great apartment that overlooked the twinkly lights of the Chicago downtown and Lake Michigan. And he had one of those player pianos that plays itself. You know, it was just so fun. And he used to have this big Oscar celebration every time the Oscars were on. And we got invited. They ordered in the best Italian food and there were drinks flowing and it was so fun.

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And everybody wanted to see who won because we had all seen the films and we knew the actors and we didn't hate them or think that they hated us. It's a totally different dynamic now where you're like, eh, I'll check the clips. I haven't seen any of these. And I'm pretty sure we all hate each other.

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Don't let the IRS control your future. 1-800-958-1000 or visit TNUSA.com slash Megan. TNUSA.com slash Megan. April 15th at just around the corner. Act now before the IRS acts first. Christian Link, welcome to the show.

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You're a giver, both of you that way. I'm going to end on this. There was finally a tribute by Morgan Freeman to the great Gene Hackman who died under very strange circumstances which are still being investigated. The latest out of Santa Fe, New Mexico is that...

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they believe his pacemaker last had a hit, you know, in the recording, it gets recorded on February 17th, which means they had been lying there for 10 days.

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Dr. Biden was on Fox news, famed, um, forensic pathologist suggesting he thinks maybe Jean had a heart attack and the wife possibly was like frantically trying to get heart medication, blood pressure medication back in the bathroom to save him maybe, and had a flippant fall or had a heart attack of her own. That's just speculation at this point. We'll have to wait.

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But they did not find carbon monoxide in the bodies. So it really, truly was not a carbon monoxide event. The dog who died in the kennel was believed to have been locked in the kennel and died from just dehydration, starvation. So in any event, that whole thing is very mysterious. But Morgan Freeman got up there and gave a brief but sober tribute to the great Gene Hackman. I'll play it in part.

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And you know what, guys? The reason we all feel like, oh, Gene Hackman, even though he's a 95-year-old man, we knew he was going to die at some point in the next, you know, not too distant future, is because he did. He was from an era of Hollywood where we all loved him. You know, he did Hoosiers and French Connection and Unforgiven and The Firm and like... He never took a side.

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In fact, there's a great clip circulating of him saying like, I'm a Democrat, but I really loved and respected Ronald Reagan as something to that effect. You know, it was just a different time. And it was a time that allowed us all to enjoy the art coming out of Hollywood. That time has gone. You're new here, Christian. So I'll give you I'll give you the first crack on that one.

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Okay. So let's kick it off with the weird tension. I detected it too. I don't think the online influencers are all wrong. Between Oprah and Whoopi, who got up there to remember Quincy Jones. And They were both in the color purple, and Whoopi was nominated for Best Actress in that film. She didn't win, but she did later win Best Supporting Actress for Ghost.

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Yeah, it's a loss of more than Gene Hackman. It's a loss of an era that we all really treasured and didn't know was temporary, Link.

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I can't help but feel like the stars who knew they were there for their acting have never shown up to the Oscars naked. You know, honestly, like nothing against Cher because she did a great job in Moonstruck, but If you have to call attention to yourself by taking off your clothes, I mean, truly to the point where you are near naked, something's wrong.

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I realize these women are and were older, but you never saw Helen Mirren doing that. You never saw Dame Judi Dench do such a thing. They had dignity. They had class. Even Gwyneth Paltrow, when she won for— Shakespeare in Love. She had the beautiful strapless ball gown. She looked very pretty. I've never seen her go for the cheap trick like that.

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Now she sells vagina candles on her website, but that's different. That's a different thing. The point is simply when you're taking off your clothes to get attention, get people talking about you, you've taken a sour turn. It's time to reevaluate your life's choices because today we should not be talking about Zoe Kravitz, who is extremely talented. Her ass crack, right? We should be talking about

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Oh, the pleasure was all mine. Okay, up next, we have Andrew Klavan. He is, of course, a very famous writer, and many of his books have been turned into, and he's written Hollywood screenplays. We'll get his take on it, and we will take a deep dive on that Zelensky meeting, and you will hear things here you have not heard everywhere over this weekend.

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His latest book, The Kingdom of Cain, is out in May. Andrew, welcome back. So did you watch the Academy Awards last night?

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And Oprah was nominated for Best Supporting Actress in the color purple and didn't win. She's never won an Oscar, and reportedly this is very upsetting to her because she feels she deserves an Oscar. Even though TV was her medium, but she has to rule everything, so she's bitter. So watch this moment, or of course, predictably, naturally, Oprah tries to make it about herself.

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I mean, we experienced that together live here on the air if you watch us live on SiriusXM. It was stunning, and of course it was obvious that it was going to be a big deal. And, you know, I have to say it's been a predictable reaction from these leftists, but there have been some very interesting new twists.

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I totally agree with that. I was thinking about it because Timothee Chalamet was in the news. He played Bob Dylan and so was there and didn't win. But he was quoted recently as saying, I really want to be one of the greats. You know, I would love to be remembered as one of the greats, like a Brando type. And you can't do that without great material.

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Like you could be the greatest ever, but if you're handed only like a bunch of absolutely meaningless drivel, it will never happen. So the great talent that's out there now should be hoping for this revolution. They should be hoping for the ashes to come such that it can then be rebuilt. Because right now, I mean, it was peak maybe five, four years ago, but it's still terrible.

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And I think it's going to remain terrible. you know, pretty terrible for a while because there's such a lead time on these movies. You know, they should be looking at things like Maverick and seeing how well it did. Any movie involving faith, friendship, redemption, those do well. Stuff about trans operas, not so much. The winning thing about the sex worker, 15 million, no.

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You can see whoopie like kind of pull away from her while she starts talking about herself and the color purple Oprah does. And then whoopie gives her a couple of claps like, yeah, go Oprah. This one isn't about you. And then says me too, which is kind of like the me too thing is very interesting because she was the bigger star. She had the bigger role, you know, with Oprah Christian.

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Welcome back to The Megyn Kelly Show. There you heard media and Democratic leaders continuing and repeatedly calling Friday's blowup at the White House an ambush of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky by President Trump and Vice President Vance. We will be hearing about the fallout from this meeting for a very long time. Okay.

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But the widely shared clips online do not tell the whole story of what actually happened in that meeting. We were all together when this broke. Remember we had the gals from Red Scare on, we just got long clips. Now I've watched the whole thing and maybe you have too.

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But I'll tell you, if you haven't watched the whole thing, you haven't seen the proper parts highlighted by the mainstream media, including Zelensky's antagonism and true open disrespect to

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And the Democrats' apparent attempt to sabotage the meeting just prior to it, which they've been openly bragging about, but now that they just want to blame it all on Trump, are trying to say has been totally misrepresented. No, we didn't. We didn't do anything. You, Chris Murphy, you're a villain and you're a liar. We'll get into it.

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Most news programs you're going to listen to have neither the time nor the desire to walk their audiences through the critical moments that happened before the viral showdown. But we do. And we would like all of you to fully understand what took place in total. This thing lasted 49 minutes. President Trump started the meeting complimenting President Zelensky and the Ukrainian soldiers.

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It's very gracious of the president. He told Mr. Zelensky it was an honor to have him in the Oval Office. Trump's doing the right thing there. He's glad handing. He's paying him compliments. He's showing him respect. Mr. Zelensky, in return, thanked President Trump for the invitation and said he hoped the minerals deal would be the first step to real security guarantees.

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He then took out a series of photos to show President Trump. They pictured Ukrainian prisoners of war held in Russian captivity. It was Mr. Zelensky's way of saying to President Trump, this is who you are dealing with. President Trump looked at the photos, expressed sympathy and said, that's why we need this war to end.

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Contrary to what critics will have you believe, it was President Zelensky who publicly challenged President Trump in his face first, several times, in fact, in front of the cameras. Mr. Trump repeatedly kept his cool. Mr. Zelensky openly disagreed with the president when talking about Europe's contributions to the war. Watch.

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You can see they had a little disagreement for the listening audience. They both leaned in on their point and Trump sort of jokingly, warmly, in a friendly manner, kind of touched Zelensky's arm like, oh, I kind of agree to disagree. It was good. It was a nice moment. They laughed it off and they kept going.

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A few minutes later, President Zelensky again publicly challenged Mr. Trump over his assertion that Russian President Vladimir Putin never broke a deal with Ukraine during Trump's first term in office.

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President Zelensky spoke for several minutes on this topic, making his case for why he does not trust President Putin. President Trump did not interrupt him once. It happened one more time before the big blow up. And let's let's be honest. Every diplomat knows there is risk in doing this to another world leader.

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And in particular, if that leader is Donald Trump, he does not like to be confronted in this manner. And that's completely acceptable and normal. Look at how Benjamin Netanyahu handled the time with Joe Biden.

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You don't think he wanted to punch Joe Biden in the face many times when he came to visit the White House over what he was saying, but he handled himself with charm, with respect, with dignity, and never openly antagonized the guy from whom he was asking so much. OK, so Zelensky went at it again, having already gotten away with this a couple of times. He decided to press his luck.

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This time he even went so far as to accuse President Trump of getting his information in the form of propaganda directly from President Putin.

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What's that? So he interrupts President Trump as he's speaking and then says he's wrong, only to then admit that Trump is right. There has been a lot of destruction, but there are cities that are still intact. Well, Trump didn't dispute that. It's like, what's he doing? He's poking the bear over and over. Why would you do that to somebody? whose support you must have, you desperately need.

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Why was he in there antagonizing Trump? I mean, this would be antagonistic to any of us, but in particular to President Trump, and he knows that, as do all world leaders. It is what it is. Deal with it. But once again, President Trump let the comment slide. He was staying above it. He did not engage, though he was being directly challenged publicly.

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President Trump even said at one point, quote, we haven't committed but could conceivably, end quote, commit U.S. troops to Ukraine after a peace deal is reached. That was a huge moment and could have been a huge win for President Zelensky to take home because Trump has said exactly the opposite thus far. But he did not take the W.

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Aside from his vocal criticism and interruptions and challenges of President Trump before the open argument that we all saw, Mr. Zelensky's body language also caught the attention of many observers. When President Trump was talking about not wanting any more death on either side, Mr. Zelensky raised his eyebrows and sighed.

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He also shook his head, shrugged, sighed and rolled his eyes several more times while President Trump was making his points. Watch.

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And who will protect those minerals if they are U.S. interests? Would that be Ukrainian forces?

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If you don't think there's been other world leaders in the Oval with this president or our others who wanted to shake their heads no while our president was making a point, they didn't agree at all, who wanted to say they attacked us. You don't think Netanyahu would have liked to have said that to Biden? They attacked us. They attacked us in the middle of his remarks, yes.

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But there's a diplomatic way of handling this. And instead, the left would just like to blame Donald Trump. They don't want to acknowledge any of these minor and then cumulative serious provocations and antagonistic behaviors. These were just the gestures that we saw when Zelensky was on camera. We didn't see the whole, you know, we didn't see anything that happened when he was off cam.

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There very well may have been more that Vice President Vance and other officials in that room witnessed. And when the big blow up happened, Mr. Zelensky also addressed in that critical moment as the tension was building, Vice President Vance using only his first name, saying, what kind of diplomacy, J.D., are you speaking about? It was an informality that could be used in a warmer moment.

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Definitely. Yeah. You're so right. You forget that she actually is a very good actress. She was great. And I remember jumping Jack flash. I loved that movie. That was so fun. And then of course go, she was wonderful in that. And then not to mention the color purple and you could, I definitely sensed her being like, what are you doing? the pull away, the fake clap thing.

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Like JD and I had lunch and really made a lot of progress. That wouldn't be totally out of line. But in a moment that is tense and in which you can feel there's an argumentative dynamic, you don't address the sitting American vice president as JD. It felt disrespectful to a lot of Americans. And then came the moment seen around the world.

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It's so interesting because Trump held his fire until Zelensky suggested that the United States was under threat and Trump was not going to let Americans sit at home and be told by the Ukrainian leader that we were next. And honestly, that's when Big Daddy got in there and he was like, oh no, now it's on. That's when Trump got mad. You could feel it.

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Zelensky said there, you don't feel it now, but you will feel it in the future. And Trump was like, you don't tell us that. You're in no position to be speaking to that, none whatsoever. And then you have the nerve of Zelensky when Trump eventually starts interrupting him back going, you invited me here to speak. What? What? What? He sat there. He let you interrupt him repeatedly.

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Only when you suggested America is going to come under threat did Trump stand up and say, now I'm drawing the line. Now you're done. Now I am going to do the talking. So why would Mr. Zelensky travel all the way to Washington to go to the White House and try to publicly own the leader of the free world? Why? Why would he have handled it this way?

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And then yeah, me too, Link, which seemed to be a, you were like second billing at best, Oprah, in that movie, which was mine.

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Well, perhaps we need look no further than the Democratic senators with whom Mr. Zelensky met before he went to the White House. And I mean within the hour. Take a listen to Arizona Senator Mark Kelly talk about what he told Zelensky within the hour of that meeting we just witnessed in the White House.

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Hey, folks, just met with President Zelensky a little while ago, told him how I feel the American people are really behind him in this struggle. And Russia brutally invaded Ukraine and Putin is a war criminal, should be in prison.

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I also told them I'm a little uncomfortable that this now appears to be like sort of a business transaction, but at the same time, Zelensky needs to do what is in the best interest of his country and his people.

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Okay, so that doesn't sound very positive about the deal, does it? I'm uncomfortable it's been reduced to a business transaction? just a little needling. I'm uncomfortable and we're all on your side and Putin should be in jail and you should do what's in the best interest of the Ukrainian people.

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Democratic Senator of Connecticut, Chris Murphy, too, posted on X. Now, keep in mind, he did this at 1115 on Friday morning before the meeting, before the meeting and before the blow up. He was so proud of himself. He posted on X Friday morning, quote, just finished meeting with President Zelensky.

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He confirmed that the Ukrainian people will not support a fake peace agreement where Putin gets everything he wants and there are no security arrangements for Ukraine. You see what he did. His post accompanied a picture of Zelensky at a conference table with, oh, who's that across from him? It's Senator Murphy, who's right across from him.

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This was within one hour of Zelensky's White House meeting, as I said. as I pointed out on X yesterday, it would appear that here's what happened. The Democrats bashed the two-phase deal Trump was arranging of one, a financial agreement, and then two, a ceasefire deal as, quote, a fake peace agreement with, quote, no security arrangements to Mr. Zelensky right before he went to the White House.

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It's fake. There's no security arrangements. It's a business deal. I'm uncomfortable with it. I want assurances, I guess, in Chris Murphy's case that the people that you're not going to sign it And then he went to the White House to sign what was clearly phase one. No, it wasn't the ultimate ceasefire. It wasn't the security arrangement deal.

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It was the first part of it, which was the minerals deal, which is the thing that Trump has been saying all along will be, in essence, a form of US security. Because if we're investing hundreds of billions of dollars trying to extract these raw earth materials from Ukraine, his theory is that Vladimir Putin will not mess with Ukraine. He'll be messing with our interests.

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And then when it comes to boots on the ground, the Europeans... are going to speak to that in phase two of this deal. But it was shat all over by Chris Murphy and others. And then when President Trump and his vice president, JD Vance, called out his grandstanding and disrespect, Zelensky's, all hell broke loose.

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We will spend some time breaking it all down for you in just a bit, how it went off the rails, and who was really behind it. Who was really behind making it go off the rails in just a bit. But we are going to start the day on a lighter note because... The Academy Awards for last night. And the reason it's interesting, I didn't watch it. I didn't watch it, but my team watched it.

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And the Democrats now, that it devolved to a fight, have reverted to their tried and true accusation that Trump is no more than Putin's puppet, that this whole thing was an ambush by Trump. of Zelensky because he wants to do the bidding of Vladimir Putin. And here's one other thing. So Chris Murphy today is very upset. I bet he wishes he hadn't sent out that tweet.

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He didn't know it was going to happen and that he would later see it as a great way to blame Trump for being a Putin puppet, again, who sabotaged poor Zelensky. You see, the problem is he already had gone on record as saying what he said in that tweet we just put out. And now he's all over X trying to do one of these. walking back. He claims he's now the victim of a MAGA smear.

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Over the last 24 hours, MAGA has been ceaselessly spreading the claim that Democrats, from Susan Rice to Tony Blinken to me, pushed Zelensky to reject the minerals deal. Total lie. Made up out of thin air. Zero sources. A short lesson in how these lies spread in MAGA world.

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Not entirely clear where it started, but the source looks like it might be from a totally random MAGA user who says she is just speculating that Blinken, Rice, Newlin, and Vindman had a conference call with Zelensky, just a MAGA troll making up shit in their basement. I don't know anything about that. I know what you tweeted though, sir.

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Another source seems to be this New York Post columnist who wildly twists my post about Zelensky's well-known opposition to a bad ceasefire deal into a claim that Democrats advised him to reject the mineral deal. Totally false. Zero regard for tactics.

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You made clear, though, sir, you made clear that you got him to confirm to you that the Ukrainian people will not support a fake peace agreement where Putin gets everything he wants and there are no security arrangements for Ukraine. He's pretending in that post that what was supposed to happen this past Friday was not part of it. It was very clearly phase one.

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It was the most the United States is willing to do. Zelensky went in there and what did he bitch about? Did he bitch about the minerals deal? No, he kept hammering Trump on security. I need security arrangements because Putin's going to betray the deal. Just like he did all those other times. I have something to tell you. That was not the day for that argument.

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We should have taken step one of the diplomatic arrangement. Get the minerals deal in place. Step two, we can argue about security and the Europeans are going to have to step up. That's what Trump's been saying all along from the start. But who primed him to go in there and try to queer the deal over step two, which we are not at yet. It was you, Senator Murphy, and your Democratic friends.

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How do I know that? Not from some random Twitter account. I don't know what you're talking about. I didn't see that at all. From you, sir. You put it out there before you knew that it would result in a story that would be covered around the world and your dirty hands would be obvious for all of us to see. Back with me now, The Daily Wire's Andrew Klavan. Andrew, your thoughts on it all.

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Yes, that's right. You and I have more influence on the public dialogue than she does here. Speaking of that, Selena Gomez, it was like weeks ago, weeks ago that we saw the my people, the immigrants, the children. Here it is. Just as a refresher, we'll watch a little.

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What we're doing here is cutting losses. No one's walking away a winner. Russia's suffered a lot, too. They've had a lot of losses. I'm not saying that it's not a serious thing to have Ukraine having given up part of its country. But this is a long, complicated relationship between these two. And the United States has been meddling over in Ukraine for the better part of a decade.

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And what Trump is trying to do is just stop that and say, we're out, we're not doing that anymore. And we need to cut the losses. We're not going to keep funding a war that's going nowhere. That's just, it's about a body count now. We're out. Like, you need to be out. I hate to bring you this reality, but you're not going to get the parts of your country back that Putin took.

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And we're not going to have some, you know, Amazing deal where you feel really satisfied. What we can do is help rebuild Ukraine by our economic investment. And the Europeans say that they will provide a security force to help deter Putin. And Zelensky's not satisfied with it. Well, that's the deal you have. That's what we're willing to offer. So a couple of things on what you said.

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One, there was a poll. Our pal Mark Halperin, he put out a poll with... Hold on a second. I'm trying to find WIC. Yeah, with WIC. And where is that in my packet? And in any event, it showed... serious support for the way Trump handled himself there. They believe that Trump comported himself well, and they were not with Zelensky.

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I think it was 47 to 38 in Trump's favor and the way people reacted to how that went down. Uh, and then secondly, so it's not just about Chris Murphy because there were other Democrats in that meeting too, but he's just this, the smarmiest one. Cause there he was like, look at me. I told him like this deal effing sucks.

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You know, you, I want an assurance that the Ukrainian people and you are not going to support it, you know? And, and he calls it the peace deal. Okay. So he's not talking about the minerals deal. Well, it was all part of the same journey. It's, it's a package. So then he realizes, oh, wow, there's a big fight in the Oval. And I can just blame that all on Trump.

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And I'm going to accuse him of an ambush. And that's even worse for Trump. That's better now. But shit, I wish I hadn't sent out that tweet. Wish I hadn't sent that out. Oh, no, this is a MAGA smear. And so what he does on Friday after the blow up is he goes to X. He writes this. What just happened in the Oval was a planned ambush, right? Planned ambush.

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He had no role in torquing up Zelensky or getting him to a place where he knew he had to go in there and throw down. This is a bad deal. Designated to help a brutal Russian dictator. Okay. And then he goes on CNN's Sunday show. And now he's really worked himself up into a lather talking about Russia, Russia, Russia, Putin, Putin, Putin, Trump, same person sat 23.

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Okay, you remember. Okay, but Link, she's made a speedy recovery because good news is last night she appeared in her custom Ralph Lauren number that was complete with her dress. 16,000 drops of glass and hand-sewn Rosemont crystals arranged into a lattice pad. made by a team of 12 Italian artisans who airbrushed the glass.

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Well, and you know, the other thing, Andrew, is the reports are that Trump was actually in a great mood that day. He was excited to be signing this minerals deal with Zelensky. He really does believe this is the first step toward peace. And Trump has been the opposite of a warmonger his entire life. I believe Trump is 100% sincere in wanting this thing to end.

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And the left says, oh, it's a surrender. And by surrender, it's cutting the losses. The thing is going nowhere. If it goes on, there's absolutely no reason to think the Ukrainians will do any better than they've done unless we dump trillions on them. Sure, I suppose we could dump trillions and turn this thing around for them.

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There's not a single American other than, you know, some lunatic on the far left that wants to do that. So it's not going to happen. So it's cutting losses. So anyway, Trump reportedly was very happy on Friday when Zelensky was coming. He was looking forward to signing the deal. and really thought he was going to have a great PR weekend. He wasn't ambushing this guy.

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You wouldn't know that if you listened to the soundbite I played at the top, and then here's a little bit more from the left-wing reaction over the past two days. Listen.

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It's Trump's weight. He's a fucker. And there's I mean, for some reason, CNN thought we really wanted to hear from former Fox and Friends anchor and Miss America 1986 Gretchen Carlson with her belief that this was an ambush. Who gives a flying fig what she thinks about this?

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She also brought the bling, wearing a platinum collar necklace with a 10-carat pear-cut diamond drop pendant alongside diamond earrings and a handful of rings. That's not even counting what she wore here at the Vanity Fair after-party, which was her custom black sequins column gown by Armani Prive, accessorized with her Bulgari jewelry and her necklace especially standing out as a focal piece.

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That's right, if you can just get these critical facts in front of him, just call him unfair. Just get these pictures in front of him and contradict him on his statements about Europe. Just needle him about how he's been misled by Russian propaganda. That'll do it. These Democrats knew exactly, exactly how that would go over. They primed the pump with this guy.

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They got assurances from him about how he was never going to accept this deal in total. And then when he went in there and did exactly what he was advised by his Democrat buddies to do, things blew up. Cue the Democrats running to the TV cameras on Sunday saying... It was an ambush by Trump. He was the person who set somebody up in that room, not Zelensky. They're so disgusting and dishonest.

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And by the way, that's why. even if people didn't know all the back and forth, they knew they didn't like what they saw. Some 62% of those involved in that poll I mentioned between Halperin and Wick, 62% found Zelensky's behavior offensive. It ranged from slightly to very on the scale. And, um, 78% say they do support a negotiated peace deal. That's a separate poll.

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That's from Quinnipiac and Marquette. 70% support a peace deal, and only 41% of the American population believes that our support for Ukraine is too much. I mean, what I'm trying to say there is it used to be just 7%. Now it's 41% believe we've gone too far for Ukraine. My point is the support for this war is going like this. A support for a peace settlement is going like this.

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And by almost two thirds, the American populace believes Mr. Zelensky was rude and offensive in that meeting. So Trump is winning. All his positions are spot on. They line up with the mood of the American electorate, which is what he represents. And this ambush, ambush, ambush is the new Russia, Russia, Russia. It will fail. I've got to take a quick break. Don't go away. Stand by.

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Andrew, like a bad penny. Another Andrew's back, a bad Andrew. Andrew Cuomo. It just keeps resurfacing.

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And this time he wants us to make him New York City mayor, even though he's a disgusting, terrible person who had a direct role in causing the deaths of some 8,000 New York nursing home patients, thanks to his order that required the nursing homes to take COVID positive patients without doing any testing. He took the sickest and put them right in the heart of the most vulnerable populations and

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of New York and people did die. And in my opinion, that is squarely on him. And then he undercounted the number of dead in New York nursing homes by at least half to cover up the numbers. Why? Because his political ambitions saw him in his own mind becoming the next president of the United States.

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And amazingly, that scandal did not tank him, nor did the fact that he closed New York City schools for a year, New York schools for a year, nor did the fact that he went soft on crime or banned fracking did not doom him. What doomed him was the Me Too allegations that came up against him after all this. Really, it was just the straw that broke the camel's back.

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when some 11 or 12 women went on the record saying he'd felt them up or behaved inappropriately with them. And Letitia James, the New York AG, came in and said, it's real. He's got a serious problem. And then he tried to tell us it all was because he's an Italian. He's an Italian. And I'm here to tell you that my pop-up was 100% Italian. Now my mom's 50% Italian and I'm 25% Italian.

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And being Italian does not make you feel people up inappropriately. or behave inappropriately at work. I'm just going to tell you right now, I know this. I mean, my pop-up never touched a woman inappropriately. Andrew, he was a great Italian, and screw you for disparaging my people in this way, and for thinking you can come back and we need you.

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were both killed in New York nursing rooms by COVID. And they went in two and a half weeks before this order. There's Sean Newman with his parents, who I knew personally, and I know Janice and Sean very, very well. I mean, she's one of my closest friends. And he is the dearest, most wonderful guy you will ever meet in your life. And he wrote a letter

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to his, um, to his fireman union and, uh, went off on this. I mean, I'm very proud of him because Sean, unlike his wife, Janice is shy. Like he's reserved. He's, he doesn't like, not like being out there publicly. He wants to fight fires and now he fights terrorism and that's what he wants to do. But he is so pissed about Andrew Cuomo. Please remember this people.

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when you were looking at Andrew Cuomo as the only name you know, now trying to reinvent himself as a moderate, which he's not. And here's Sean telling his union, I want to express my opposition to Andrew Cuomo's candidacy or any attempt by him to return to public office. He calls him disgraced, says he's corrupt, dishonest, and uses well-known intimidation tactics to get his way.

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He goes on to talk about what happened with his parents being sent into the nursing homes. And it was just terrible timing. And he said, we were very angry about that order sending the COVID positive patients into the nursing homes.

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We were angry for the reasons that it was sent out, which was designed to be in the best interest of healthcare executives and officials, not an aging population with compromised immune systems. These decisions were based on politics and exacting control on the population. He points out we had the USS Comfort, that aircraft carrier, and the Javits Center totally empty during the crisis.

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They could have sent COVID-positive patients there. He didn't. The hospitals were packed. The nursing homes were packed. Andrew Cuomo sent them into the nursing homes with the elderly population. No satisfactory answer was ever given, he writes, why the Comfort and the Javits lay in disuse during the worst pandemic in 100 years.

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He had us all fooled in the beginning with his version of fireside chats, his daily pep talks watched by the whole country. He said, but this was not him leading in crisis. It was to set up his next political leap, which was potentially as next president of the United States if his true colors were not revealed.

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With the death toll still spiking, he thought the best use of his time and staff resources was self-aggrandizement as he worked on a so-called leadership book during the pandemic and on the public dime. Just a reminder, his polls right now show him leading because of name recognition.

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But what we've also seen, Andrew, is that when people are reminded of his dastardly deeds, they come back down to earth and he is beatable. I'll give you the last word.

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Yeah. Last night with my family, we watched Braveheart. It was great. We watched that in some of the Oscars. That was an actually great movie. Wait, on the subject of the hypocrisy, Julianne Hough, the Dancing with the Stars lady. I don't know why she's there, but she's there. Okay. She gets up and goes for woke number one.

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I know. I mean, in an era in which, you know, New York State moved more to the right, New York City even moved a little bit more to the right with Trump. Are they really going to take Andrew Cuomo and his fake reinvented moderate shtick? Seriously, I urge you not to do so. We can do better than Andrew Cuomo. I'll say this running for the Democratic primaries, this guy named Whitney Tilson.

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And this is somebody who Bill Ackman has endorsed. That's somebody that you could look at if you were a Dem. But do not look at Andrew Cuomo. He is not the answer. He is the problem. Andrew, thank you. Always wonderful to see you. And tomorrow, our friends from the Fifth Column are here. We'll see you then. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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I'm the wokest of them all because they have this poor schlep do the land acknowledgement. There she is.

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Well, it wasn't that long ago that Julianne Hough was not quite this woke because this is her in blackface doing an Orange is the New Black Halloween costume, 2013, which is just a few years before my comment that people used to wear these kind of costumes. And... She was a little less woke then, guys. I don't know. I feel like this is what happened.

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And I've spent the morning watching clips and getting up to speed on it. And the reason it's interesting to discuss is it's almost like a cultural touchstone in some ways. Like, where are we? What's too far? What's not far enough? How are we still absolutely crazy when it comes to wokeism? How loony are we? How loony are they? What are they celebrating? What are they not celebrating?

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It's so true. What are they gonna do about it, Link? All they wanna do is stand up at all these events, these Democrats, and say how bad they feel about the Native Americans. Anywho, back to me and my jewels.

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Yes. Okay. So we are going to get to the movies in a second, but I just want to stay on some of these interesting side issues. Here's my question for you, Christian. Where was the clothing? Where were people's clothes? Kylie Jenner shows up because she was the date of Timothee Chalamet, who's all the rage. I'm not going to lie. I thought he was more Lynx type.

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I did not know that he was into women. I didn't. And time will tell. But in any event- He shows up with Kylie Jenner.

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And she's wearing a bathing suit, which is, you know, right on course for the Kardashian-Jenner crowd. Look at this. Her enormous breasts and a bathing suit was her chosen outfit. I guess I'll start there. The two of them were love birding it up, and he had his weird yellow outfit on, like canary yellow, top to bottom. And then at the Vanity Fair Oscar party, after the fact...

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They also weren't wearing clothing. I'm not sure why there was, um, what's her name? Um, God, come on. The one from House. Olivia Wilde. We have her picture. Yes, Olivia. Totally see-through. I can see her boobs. You can see her underwear. In the front, it looks like a granny panty, but in the back, she has no bottoms on. And you can see her total bottom.

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I can see total boob all the way belly down to like almost the vag. That was her choice. And then you've got Zoe Kravitz. who thought it would be really hot for us to show us her entire ass. Not even just like the top of the ass crack, but full ass crack. I mean, if you go too low, people start thinking about a different thing that involves the bottom, madam. You've gone too far.

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It stopped being sexy and started to just be a little raunchy. So you tell me, Christian, where were people's clothing?

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It's just sort of like a, little window into Hollyweird. And as a result, some of the rest of us. I'll tell you what the biggest outrage was of the whole evening. The whole evening. Where was Reagan? Reagan, not nominated for Best Picture, the Mark Joseph biopic on Ronald Reagan. And the reason why? They didn't qualify under the weird DEI standards that Hollywood has.

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You know, I'll tell you something interesting. My friends over at the Commentary Podcast, John Podoritz, who actually is a film critic in addition to being just a writer and commentary and so on, used to be a presidential speechwriter. He was going off on Adrian Brody because he starred in a movie about the Holocaust and he won. He won Best Actor. And he won another award 20 years ago.

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for The Pianist, got to say that word just right, The Pianist. Nailed it. And that, too, was about a Holocaust survivor. And Pedard's, you know, justifiably commentary is a Jewish magazine, was like, yeah, maybe you would have had a word about, like, The Holocaust and maybe more than just one passing reference to anti-Semitism. Like you had to check that box at the end.

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And then he lumped it in together with, you know, racism. Like he he didn't. It was like, oh, before me, me, me, I, I, I. And before I get played off the stage by the music, anti-Semitism and racism, too. Here's a little bit of that. Watch Adrian.

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Mr. Cuomo resigned from the governorship in August 2021 following a report from New York Attorney General Letitia James stating Mr. Cuomo sexually harassed 11 women and created a hostile work environment as governor. A.G. James writing, quote,

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while at the same time normalizing the governor's frequent flirtations and gender-based comments, contributed to the conditions that allowed the sexual harassment to occur and persist. Democrat establishment quickly revoked support for Mr. Cuomo. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi at the time called for him to step down, as well as New York Senator Chuck Schumer.

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As he fell from power, Mr. Cuomo blamed his Italian heritage and claimed he didn't realize the extent to which the line, as in the line for what kind of conduct is appropriate at work, had been redrawn over time. Early on in the pandemic, Mr. Cuomo was lauded by the media for his handling of the COVID crisis. even winning an Emmy for his daily briefings.

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That Emmy was ultimately stripped amid his sexual harassment allegations. His approval rating so high, many wondered if he would eventually run for president. Ultimately, that approval also collapsed. Mr. Cuomo's biggest scandal was his March 2020 order forcing nursing homes to accept COVID positive patients, which he was warned would cost lives.

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It created a political firestorm when it was discovered that his office then underreported nursing home deaths by as much as 50 percent. More than 8,000 nursing home patients in New York died of COVID. The mayoral primary is in June. Mr. Cuomo will be running against current mayor Eric Adams and several other lower-profile candidates. And that'll do it for your AM Update. I'm Megyn Kelly.

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Join me back here today for The Megyn Kelly Show, live on SiriusXM Triumph Channel 111 at noon east, on YouTube.com slash Megyn Kelly, and on all podcast platforms.

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The fallout from a shocking Oval Office meeting between Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and President Trump, which torpedoed the financial agreement set to be signed Friday. What part did the Democrats play in swaying Mr. Zelensky, and will European leaders be able to salvage the deal?

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You act now. Get it off your plate before the IRS acts first. European leaders scrambled to repair the Ukrainian peace deal in the wake of a disastrous Oval Office meeting between President Trump and President Zelensky. Friday's 49-minute meeting began on a positive note, Mr. Trump praising the Ukrainians for surviving against the Russians despite all odds.

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Mr. Zelensky then taking the opportunity to plead his case in front of the American press.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Monday, March 3rd, 2025, and this is your AM Update.

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Mr. Trump repeatedly attempted to bring the focus of the conversation back to peace talks. Vice President J.D. Vance chiming in with a point about diplomacy, how the U.S. is changing course from isolating the Russians to engaging with them.

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The meeting seemed to hit a significant turning point when Mr. Zelensky, who had been sighing and shaking his head repeatedly, addressed the vice president with this.

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All bets were off. Mr. Trump and Mr. Vance fired back at the Ukrainian leader, informing him of the stark reality of his position. Mr. Trump saying, you don't have any cards and you're gambling with World War III. Shortly after the cameras exited the room, the Ukrainian delegation exited the building with a message from Team Trump. Come back when you're ready for peace.

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Democrats roundly criticizing President Trump for the outcome. The Sunday show is full of Dems laying blame for the collapse of the deal on President Trump.

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That last voice was Connecticut Senator Chris Murphy, a Democrat. And here's some crucial context. Prior to President Zelensky's meeting at the White House, he met with a bipartisan group of senators, including Mr. Murphy. The New York Post reporting Democratic senators advised Mr. Zelensky not to take the deal.

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Posting on X, Senator Murphy writing, quote, just finished a meeting with President Zelensky here in Washington. He confirmed that the Ukrainian people will not support a fake peace agreement where Putin gets everything he wants and there are no security arrangements for Ukraine.

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Secretary of State Marco Rubio joining ABC this week, countering Democrat criticism, saying talks of security guarantees with the Russians are premature.

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Journalist Mark Halperin teaming up with the pollster Wick, asking a group of 1,000 Americans who watched the exchange if they side more with the Trump administration's approach to diplomacy or Mr. Zelensky's. 49% say the Trump team has it right, just 37% siding with Mr. Zelensky. Immediately following the meeting, international leaders taking to social media in support of the Ukrainian president.

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Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau writing on X, Canada will continue to stand with Ukraine. The EU's top diplomat, Kaja Kajas, writing on X, Ukraine is Europe. We stand by Ukraine. Behind the scenes, European leaders work to convince Mr. Zelensky to return to the table and sign the economic agreement. The United Kingdom's ambassador to the U.S., Lord Peter Mandelson,

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Elon Musk pulls back the curtain on the inner workings of the Trump administration in a lengthy conversation on Joe Rogan's podcast. And disgraced former Governor Andrew Cuomo makes it official. He's running for New York City mayor. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update. The IRS is the largest collection agency in the world.

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President Zelensky arrived in the UK on Saturday, convening with European and Canadian leaders on next steps for his country. Mr. Zelensky writing on Telegram, quote, We are all working together in Europe in order to find a basis for cooperation with America for a true peace and guaranteed security.

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The UK and France attempting to repair the damage by preparing a peace deal to present to the United States. UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer announcing plans for European security guarantees yesterday.

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It is unclear yet if President Zelensky can be swayed to accept European security guarantees without U.S. security guarantees as well. which Mr. Trump has maintained will be in the form of economic investment only. And now even that's unclear. Treasury Secretary Scott Besant told CBS Mr. Zelensky's actions in the Oval threw off the intended sequence of events.

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First, the economic deal with Ukraine, then a peace deal with Russia. Is the deal still on the table or has President Trump instructed you to drop the project?

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Sin qua non, Latin for the essential component. The Trump administration is not convinced at the moment that Mr. Zelensky actually wants peace. And without that, they cannot do business. Mr. Besson telling CBS at the moment there is no economic deal on the table. Mr. Zelensky told the BBC now he would like to do the minerals deal.

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But Mr. Trump has not agreed to put it back on the table after what happened on Friday. Coming up, Elon Musk pulls back the curtain on Doge findings and disgraced New York Governor Andrew Cuomo makes his New York City mayoral campaign official. Thank you so much for having me. For those considering selling their business, FYSI guides them through a winning exit strategy with confidence.

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The official Doge website touts $65 billion in savings via canceled contracts, fraud detection, regulatory savings, and more. Recently, the Trump administration announced the cancellation of 90% of USAID's contracts. These contracts are typically with NGOs, non-governmental organizations, that receive the money in the form of grants.

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President Trump recently highlighting what some of these organizations were up to.

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Elon Musk calls the system a scam. Quote, maybe the biggest scam ever.

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The Trump administration's cuts to USAID total about $60 billion. Elon Musk providing clarity to Doge discoveries on Social Security fraud.

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Mr. Musk describes the government payment systems as a whole series of big, dumb machines, saying the system is ripe for exploiting because across the government, these systems don't talk to each other, making fraud easy.

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The GAO, or Government Accountability Office, estimates the feds lose between $233 billion and $521 billion annually to fraud. Elon Musk, a U.S. citizen since 2002 and longtime Democrat supporter, explaining how the Democrat policy of open borders pushed him into the Trump camp.

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Elon Musk weighing in on the Epstein files flop late last week. Originally, Attorney General Pam Bondi promised to release all of the Epstein files, ultimately, though, only posting documents that were largely previously known to the public. Mr. Musk defending the disappointing drop, saying A.G.

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Bondi and Kash Patel of the FBI just arrived in office and are captains to a ship with a crew that hates them. A.G. Bondi revealed last week a whistleblower report indicating thousands of pages of Epstein files may be hidden in a New York field office. Mr. Musk describing why retrieving the files may not be so cut and dry.

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A.G. Bondi set the deadline to return all of the files at 8 a.m. this past Friday. There has been no indication any of the documents were actually received by her office. Disgraced former New York Governor Andrew Cuomo announces he is running for New York City mayor in a 17 and a half minute video.

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The former governor describing a relatively moderate platform, increasing cops, getting mentally ill homeless people off the streets, and not tolerating pro-Hamas protests that harass and intimidate the Jewish community. Of course, when he was in office, he governed as a leftist, banning fracking, stopping nuclear power, and going soft on crime. Mr. Cuomo also acknowledging his past scandals.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, and happy Monday. President Trump's whirlwind first couple of weeks has continued over the weekend. It's nonstop. He does not rest. There's no more, you know, weird sand shuffling over long weekends at Rehoboth Beach from the busy week—

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And when you know, they know you're not bluffing, that Trump will follow through on any veiled or explicit threats. And you have a boss who's alive, not afraid, and understands the power of this great country. And you're exactly like him. So it's like they're dealing with a totally different team than under Biden and, you know, with Blinken and Jake Sullivan. So that had to play a role.

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Oh, I like that. This must have been thrilling for you personally, Rick, on a number of levels. Like when you got this title, did you know it was going to include things like this?

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I like the notion of, I actually just tweeted this out the other day about Scott Pressler, but it's going to work for you too. I tweeted out something like, the scariest thing a politician in America used to hear was Ronan Farrow's on the phone, right? Like doing some Me Too expose of you. But today it's Scott Pressler's here.

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This Republican activist who got tons of, a million and a half Pennsylvanians registered red this time around and is threatening the governor of New Jersey, he's going to do it there. But you're kind of in that role where it's like, oh, God, Rick Grinnell is here.

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Now you've got absolute idiots trying to espouse their political views to us as though we care about anything about them other than the way they sing songs. We'll get to that. But we begin today with an exclusive interview with our friend Rick Grinnell. Now, back in December, President Trump appointed Grinnell as his envoy for special missions, a title that sounded important but vague.

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You know, you're going to be going to these hot spots, it sounds like, with the president's backing, letting them know you may not love this visit, but you're really not going to like the visit you get from my boss's team if it doesn't work out between us. This is a brilliant pairing. I think this is a great way of using you. Let me steal a couple minutes of your time.

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And by the way, we're not officially releasing the name of the hostages, right? Is that true? I mean, I saw a couple of the names in The Washington Post and The Wall Street Journal, just so our audience is not wondering why we're not doing bios.

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Okay. Yeah. It's, there's a couple of them are out there if you guys so desire, but we'll update you as the week goes on. Okay. So let me ask you this while I have you, uh, yesterday, I think it was yesterday or Saturday. It's all blending together. Now, Donald Trump posted the following this morning.

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I ordered precision military airstrikes on the senior ISIS attack planner and other terrorists he recruited and led in Somalia. These killers who we found hiding in caves threatened the US and our allies. The strikes destroyed the caves they live in and killed many terrorists without in any way harming civilians.

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Our military has targeted this ISIS attack planner for years, but Biden and his cronies wouldn't act quickly enough to get the job done. I did. The message to ISIS and all others who would attack Americans is that, in all caps, we will find you and we will kill you. And then Trump himself posted today video of the attack, which we can see here, stand by.

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I mean, obviously he's declassifying it by posting it himself in just what looks like a pretty significant show of American firepower from the air.

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And now, Rick, there's a lot of speculation about whether this is not only a message to any foreign terrorist, but perhaps one to the drug cartels along the Mexican border, who we've deemed foreign terrorists, that if they don't get in line, they could be in a lot of trouble, just like these Somalia ISIS workers, that their threat over the weekend to drone attack ICE agents is not being well-received.

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and they're messing with the wrong first world nation. Your thoughts on all of it.

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We weren't sure what it was, but Rick, of course, has a lot of international experience, former ambassador to Germany, former acting DNI, was at the UN for a long time. I mean, he knows what he's doing overseas. And now we're starting to get a better feel for how Trump intends to use him, and it's, boy, for the good of the United States.

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I love the warning of it. And it was amazing because I think a lot of us have kind of forgotten about ISIS. We thought Trump took care of that. And like Biden have been took our eyes off that ball, though Biden's the commander in chief or was and had an obligation to keep paying attention. Marco Rubio went down on his first foreign international trip to Panama.

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I sat with him last week just as he was about to depart. And he made clear that one of the main reasons, if not the main reason of going down there, was the growing influence of China.

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in the canal, that when we gave the canal to Panama, it was explicit that they would not allow it to fall under the control of another foreign entity, and that it certainly shouldn't be China, and that what they're doing now is they're building all these sort of corporate concerns along the Panama Canal that are owned by the Chinese that could be flipped like that into military strongholds.

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So we're just not going to have it. And Trump has said, we want this canal back. So Marco Rui goes down there. Here's what he told me on Thursday, Satu.

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So what we learned today is that the Financial Post is reporting Panama promised free passage to U.S. warships, Rubio saying he was going to demand that. He got it. And on top of that, the Panamanian president says he will not renew the Belt and Road deal with China as we are demanding less influence. that he said their sovereignty is not up for debate.

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He doesn't want to give us the canal, but he said that they would not renew a 2017 memorandum of understanding to join China's overseas development initiative known as the Belt and Road, suggested that the deal with China could in fact even end early. All good, all great. That's a W for us. But then the big boss weighed in, just in case people were clear, like that's great.

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We've already seen his diplomacy in action as he returned this past Friday night from Venezuela and not alone. He brought with him six Americans who were being effectively held hostage by the Maduro regime. Here to tell that story is Rick Grinnell. When it comes to grocery shopping and meal planning, it's often stressful and time-consuming.

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The last question, and by the way, speaking of Kristi Noem and Venezuela, the Trump administration also ended temporary immigration program, the temporary immigration program for hundreds of thousands of Venezuelans. She revoked one of two temporary protected status designations for Venezuela. It's by far the biggest of its kind, protecting more than... 600,000 migrants from deportation.

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So no more. We're saying you do not have temporary protected status. You got to go home. Go back to Venezuela. And thanks to Rick Bunnell, President Maduro is going to move in. Yeah. He's going to fly you back home. You're going to go see mom. Good luck with that. Last quick question before we go.

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Elon's all over Twitter saying that he has shut down USAID, this organization that they say they're running like humanitarian aid and other benevolent programs for foreign aid groups that we support. And Elon's saying he held out Twitter spaces last night at midnight saying they're That thing is so corrupt. The money is being totally mismanaged.

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It's not that there was a worm in the apple, he said. It's that all we found were worms. And the workers who work for USAID got a notification last night, don't come to work. Stay at home. You're on paid leave. And there's a question about whether this thing is even opening its doors. Why should Americans care? And what do you make of the freak out on the left about this?

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the problem is it's become a left-wing organization that just funds its favorite causes. There is a report out today about how Bill Kristol set up some group that's through some backend, gets money from USAID, unconfirmed. He does not appear to have denied it yet, but I'll check. So we're funding these left-wing groups through the Biden administration under the auspices of like

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We're going to help the sick and the poor in Africa and winds up in the back pocket of somebody like Bill Kristol. It's a no. At a minimum, it deserves to be to get a hard second look and to stop the funding until we can figure out, as President Trump infamously once said, what the hell is going on? Rick Grinnell, thank you so much and congrats. What a huge victory for us all.

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Wow. It's amazing. I'll look at like, it truly is so much winning, right? Are you tired of all the winning? I'm not tired of all the winning. I mean, think about it. Like these six to 12 guys are languishing in Venezuela. And the reason it was a win for Maduro to sit with Rick is because we haven't recognized that government, you know, there, there, he lost the election, but he wouldn't leave.

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And so our, we weren't recognizing him, but you know, He's not leaving and we have Americans stranded there. And what Rick is saying is that the mere fact that he was willing to be seen on camera with him is a win for the guy. And does that really cost us so much to get back our people?

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And by the way, to have him willingly take back his people who are far worse than our people we're talking about here, six to 12 Americans who appear to have been falsely accused versus hundreds of thousands of Venezuelans who are in part gang members committing crimes in America. There's a lot happening. We're going to get into more of this when Stu Berger joins us right after the break.

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news coverage over the weekend because he threatened, he said, as of Saturday, he said, I am jacking up tariffs on Canadian goods by 25%, Mexico by 25% and China by 10% because he'd already raised the tariffs on China, which Joe Biden then kept in place after criticizing Trump for the tariffs, but kept them because they were working. Um, And Trump said they're going into effect on Tuesday.

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It's happening. I want a better fair trade situation with Canada and some crackdown on the border. And I want a serious crackdown on the Mexican border from the Mexicans. Well, you know, cue the Harry Enten segment over on CNN about how many people do not want this. They're very against the tariffs. Okay. I think the average person doesn't think about tariffs at all.

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Maybe doesn't even fully appreciate what it is. They've just been told by every media outlet, left and right, that this is a colossally bad idea. Go find the media outlet that's going to explain why this is a clever idea, such that both parties wound up agreeing to it, Trump, then Biden, when it comes to China. That's not out there. Anyway, Mexico is already caved.

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And we get the news this morning that Mexico has agreed to put 10,000 troops along the southern border in addition to other measures, which I will pull up and go over in one second. But what do you make just of the overall posturing of this thing and where we are after 48 hours?

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Mm-hmm. The Mexican president said, this is via the New York Times, that the 10,000 Mexican National Guard troops being sent to the border would be pulled from other parts of the country and would be in addition to security forces already there. She said it was important for humanitarian reasons for Mexico to help control the flow of fentanyl into the United States.

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And she said there was a plan to deploy the troops immediately. I mean, who in their right mind thinks that's a bad idea, right? There's, this isn't the whole ball game, but that's a concession that was gotten within hours of Saturday's announcement by Trump that he meant business on these tariffs and he actually was going to do it. Um, then you've get, you get Trudeau up in Canada, um,

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who starts off by saying, oh, we used to be really good friends and we've helped you out a lot. It's like the first stages of grief, you know, denial. What do you mean? We used to, we go back a long way. And then he says, um, I want to tell you that less than 1% of fentanyl, less than 1% of illegal crossings into the United States come from Canada. We're not your number one problem.

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But hearing concerns from both Canadians and Americans, we launched a $1.3 billion border plan. Great. Thank you. It's a start. It's not going to end the deal, but it's a start. Political reported on Friday that a source said Trump's commerce secretary nominee has asked for proof of these efforts regarding Canada's $1.3 billion border plan.

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Apparently they don't believe that Trudeau's actually doing this or actually about to do this. But they announced it, and right now they too are facing a 25% tariff on some $30 billion of U.S. goods starting Tuesday. It will ramp up to $125 billion worth of goods in 21 days if they don't do what Trump wants, which I think goes beyond just this $1.3 billion order plan.

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But it's very interesting because I don't see a ton of positive coverage for President Trump across these same outlets today on how it's working.

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And so we'll make you care. If you, if you don't care, we'll get your money involved in this game and then you will care. You'll, you'll care a lot because right now most products from Canada and Mexico into the United States face no tariffs. So this is a big change. If we slap on this 25% tariff to most of their goods, we did make an exclusion on, I think it was Canadian energy. It's down.

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It's a 10% tariff. Um, Crude oil from Canada would suffer only a 10% charge, which the New York Times points out appears to be a tacit acknowledgement by Trump. The tariffs might translate into higher gas taxes or gas prices. He understands what he's doing. Trump himself tweeted out, will there be some pain? Yes, maybe, and maybe not.

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But we will make America great again and it will all be worth the price that must be paid. We're a country that is now being run with common sense and the results will be spectacular. He said the tariff lobby headed by the globalist and always wrong Wall Street Journal is working hard to justify countries like Canada, Mexico, China and too many others to name

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too many others to name, uh, to continue the decades long ripoff of America. We're not going to be the stupid country any longer. And he's all, it seems to be, he's asking Americans to understand maybe there will be some short-term pain in some areas, but trust me, it's for long-term gain. Um, and here's just the latest year. Okay. Hold on. Um, yeah. Okay. So I mentioned the news media.

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I mean, I saw a lot of reactions on Twitter from well-meaning fans of the president even saying, is it bad that I didn't know we had six Americans being held in Venezuela? So just give us a little background on who these people are.

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Here's, here's how they're spinning the breakthrough. New York Times made a headline right now. Mexico reaches deal with U.S. to delay Trump tariffs. There's no mention whatsoever of the fact that they're about to send 10,000 troops to the border to help with the illegal problem, the fentanyl problem too. Washington Post does mention it. They say U.S.

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tariffs on Mexico delayed as country agrees to rush 10,000 troops to the border. NBC News, not surprisingly. Makes no mention of it. Trump and Mexico's president say tariffs will be delayed for one month after talks. Not important enough to put the 10,000 troops in the headline. And that's why I mentioned the Harry Enten thing. I know this guy is just taking polling numbers and putting them on TV.

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But there's a reason that the vast majority of Americans, I think, are against Trump on the tariffs. Because... Truly, the left doesn't want tariffs. The Wall Street Journal and the Rupert Murdoch types don't want tariffs.

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It's really just sort of the core MAGA group that is in favor of them and some group of the left that has been more against free trade and more in favor of, quote, fair trade for some time. But here's what I reference with the Harry Hinton thing. Watch.

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Oh, well, that's promising. But by the way, so where you wait over the next 24 hours and see if there's a one point three billion dollar guarantee from Canada to crack down on border security and 10,000 troops flooding to the border right now in Mexico to crack down on border security in response to Trump's tariff plan.

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See if that winds its way into your local paper and the headlines, America, because they won't.

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I have no empathy for Mexico. None, none. They should double the number, 10,000. They're the source of so many of our problems. They dumped the worst criminals who come up through their country into the United States. They allow their drug cartels to run wild at the southern border and are largely responsible for the coyotes and the trafficking of the people into the United States.

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Zero sympathy for Mexico. By the way, targeted tariffs are at times terrific, is great alliteration by you, Sturberger. Here's a thread that was on Twitter by Melissa Chen, who is a commentator. I don't exactly know what she writes at The Spectator and elsewhere, but she's a smart commentator. And I've seen her on Rogan and elsewhere, and she's always worth listening to.

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And she she did a little thread on the what we're doing with respect to trade and China. All right. This is just one example. Again, the Chinese tariffs are only going up 10 percent because we already jacked them. But let me give you a flavor for what Trump is doing here. He's paying attention.

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Timu, Shine, and all these tacky fast fashion companies that sell mostly crap have long relied on an unfair and unwarranted trade advantage versus the United States. They have long been beneficiaries of what's called the de minimis loophole. This loophole allows goods to be shipped directly from overseas to American consumers so long as the value of each pack

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is under $800 American without any customs declaration. It's cheap, direct, untaxed, and unregulated. It's a law that's existed since the 1930s, long before the internet. Last year, the U.S. received a billion packages from China.

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Through this loophole, CPB cannot possibly inspect the items at scale, so things do slip through the cracks, unsafe items, knockoffs, products made with forced labor from China, and yes, chemicals that are used to make fentanyl. To put things in context, in 2022, Gap, the Gap, paid $700 million, while H&M paid $200 million in import taxes. Timu, this company, paid zero.

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Free trade, she writes, is not free. It's flooding our markets with cheap, crappy, potentially toxic goods, gutting our own retail markets, and allowing unsavory foreign competitors to exploit loopholes and gain unfair competitive advantages over retailers who have to play by the rule because of geography. Now we've closed it, and Trump shut down these de minimis entries from China. Effective

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Tuesday. He's never even going to get credit for these things, Stu. They're too small. People aren't paying attention. But he's clearly got a both guns blazing approach to what used to be lauded by the Republican Party as free trade. But free trade is not working for a lot of Americans.

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Never works out. Do not order your clothing from China. Double check. Make sure it's made in America. Stu stays with us. Don't go away. Great to see you, my friend. Selling a car privately can be a real headache. It actually really is. Endless negotiations and paperwork hassles, but there is a better, easier way to get your unused car off of your hands.

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For 30 years, Cars for Kids, that's cars with a K, has perfected the car donation process to make it truly effortless. They will take your car in any condition, running or not, and turn it into funds for kids in need. plus a tax deduction for you. It takes just two minutes on the phone or at cars4kids.org to donate.

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And they will take over from there, getting your car picked up as soon as the next day. You will receive a vacation voucher and maximum tax deduction while supporting proven programs that help kids reach their full potential. With over a million successful donations over three decades, Cars for Kids continues to be a trusted partner for car donors across the country.

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It's free, it's convenient, and it's super easy. Just call 1-877-CARS4KIDS. That's K-A-R-S, the numeral four, and then kids. Or you can donate online at Cars4Kids. That's again with the numeral four, cars4kids.org slash MK to donate your car today.

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So, Stu, the polls have made absolutely clear that a clear and hearty majority of Americans want to see all illegals in this country deported, not just the criminals, not just the really, really bad ones. All all between 55 and 62 to 63 percent, depending on which poll you look at. OK, so that's that's a majority of Americans. That's not that's not just Republicans.

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work week of the president that goes from 10 a.m. to 4 p.m. at best, four days a week, as we had with our last president. This president does not stop. All he does is work and try to improve the country. I mean, I don't think he sleeps. It's kind of crazy. I mean, Don't you need to sit down? I need to sit down. I need to have my coffee. I can't even talk to Doug in the morning.

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Notwithstanding that, Governor Phil Murphy of New Jersey, who's about to be Scott Pressler'd, and I am here for it, as the kids say, go, Scott, go. New Jersey ought to be red, and large portions of it are red. Just go to Atlantic City and take a look at the Trump signage. Decides to give an interview and offer up the following little tidbit. Listen here.

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Wow. So he doesn't explicitly say that she's illegal, but obviously she is if he's presuming the feds would come to get her. And the only thing that would stop them from being successful is Governor Murphy. That's extraordinary. He's harboring an illegal in his garage apartment and is bragging about it Stu, in again, a country whose clear majority wants all illegals gone.

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So should our friend Tom Homan and his friends swing by the New Jersey governor's home and see what's up above his garage?

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That's exactly right. Honestly, I'm a homeowner in New Jersey. Maybe I should just stop paying my state taxes on the home and that, you know, I just dare you, Phil Murphy. You think he'd let me get away with just flouting the law because Megyn Kelly doesn't like it? She doesn't agree with it. This is outrageous.

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They absolutely should go and collect that woman and they should make an example of her. I don't mean hurt her. I just mean get her out of the country among the first deportations. And that will teach a lesson to Phil Murphy and anybody else who's got great ideas about waving in our face their flouting of the law, how that's going to go for them. I mean, thanks.

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Thanks for letting us know on the bright side. We now have a great roadmap for exactly how to get this won. But he had to be ashamed of himself. Um, his party is a hot mess, right? Even though the vast majority of Americans are, are over illegal immigration and this open border and they're very over girls in, uh, having to deal with boys in their sports.

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By the way, we have an exclusive at the end of the show with Senator Tommy Tuberville, who's going to be talking about who in the Senate is blocking the Senate from taking a vote on the protection of girls and women in sports. bill because the House passed this thing and the Republicans control the Senate and it's being blocked and he's prepared to name names.

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That's in our segment right after Stu. But so the vast majority of the American public is on our side on these issues. But the Democrats come together this past weekend to elect their new leaders. They have no leaders. Kamala's gone. Biden's gone in more ways than one. They have no leaders. And this is the clip that's going everywhere, which shows you what they care about. This is how

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Well, let me start with this. There's two. Jonathan Capehart, this far left guy who has a show on MSNBC, he starts by asking this question. And for the listening audience, every single person on the panel raises their hand. These are all the candidates for the head of DNC. It's SOT16.

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You all passed. Jonathan Capehart will decide why Kamala Harris lost. And then they elect a white guy. They elected a white guy, Stu. It's been like 12 years or something before they ever. But the reason this guy, Ken Martin, got elected as a white guy, I would submit, is because of repeated statements like this one he offered in 2019. Sot 14 here.

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OK, but he got elected as chair, David Hogg, the far left president. kid who was part of the Stoneman, um, school shooting. He was there. It was a student down in Florida when that happened at Parkland. Um, who is just, I mean, with all due respect to that terrible experience, he is truly one of the most annoying leftists on Twitter.

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He is truly hateful, very nasty, does not understand there's a second amendment in this country and that he doesn't get to rewrite it with his eraser. Um, he wins vice chair. So now you got two white guys, two,

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And the DNC chair, Jamie Harrison, I guess outgoing, tries to explain that this has thrown things into chaos because they have quotas, they have bare minimums for non-binaries as part of DNC leadership, which I guess neither of these guys is. Listen to Sod 18.

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very hard if you have a quota for neither males nor females and for the listening audience on the screen the entire time he was reading that is this little like pronoun primer that reads there's zim there her z she his zay they them zim hers zay him he i refuse fuck off dnc those are They're not real words nor real pronouns. There's no such thing as a Z or a Zay or a Zim.

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And that's why they're having such difficulty finding the right balance because they require it at the leadership level, Stu.

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No. And the reports coming out of there were just as delicious. So the headline today is in the or actually yesterday, the Wall Street Journal. Democrats have a new leader but have not come to grips with failure. They quote Adam Frisch, a Colorado Democrat who lost his house race in November to now Republican Representative Jeff Hurd as saying as follows.

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20 big cities, Aspen and Martha's vineyards. That's what's left of the democratic party. And I'm not exactly sure those 20 big cities are getting the best version of the democratic party. Z Zim Zay. You don't, you don't think so, Adam? I think you might be right. Here's some more color from that whole debacle. Um, Okay. New York times headline coming out of that meeting was no coherent message.

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Dems struggle to oppose Trump. They point out that, um, a Quinnipiac university poll conducted the week after Trump took office found that 57% of voters view the democratic party unfavorably. That is the highest level since 2008. They did more than 50 interviews with Democratic leaders. They broadly agree that they need to do more to address issues like grocery costs, inflation and immigration.

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But there is little consensus on how or even whether to prioritize the party's traditional concerns like abortion rights, LGBTQ equality and climate change. There's a quote in here from Representative Jasmine Crockett, Democrat of Texas, saying, This guy, meaning Trump, is psychotic. And there's so much, but everything that underlies it is white supremacy and hate.

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And last but not least, this little ditty from Connecticut Senator Chris Murphy, you have to portray a sense of alarm and urgency or people will continue to believe that the country will be okay. So they have no idea what the messaging should be. They know they're not dumb enough to believe that the identity politics helped them.

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They have got to see the polling showing it's crushing them, but it's too strong a strain. The party has this malignant tumor. that's in it, that loves DEI and equity and identity politics at every turn. And they can't excise it still.

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You don't think so? Against it. No, I mean, he might be, but I refuse. I'm going to work against him. He helped kill 15,000 New Yorkers with his inane orders to put... sick patients into nursing homes and did not let them test them for COVID. Then he tried to lie and cover that up when he got caught. It's insanity to put this guy back in power. Just ask our mutual pal Janice Dean.

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They're already a national joke. I mean, they're, you know, it's like the sad kid at, you know, the parties in high school who runs and tells the teacher every time he sees somebody misbehave, who really doesn't have a lot of friends, but he's not like the lovable nerd.

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He's like the turn state's evidence douchebag nerd who people really do want to punch, but they won't because they have boundaries. That's what the Democrat Party is now, like this feckless, weakling, tattletale, annoying loser kids who nobody wants to brand with. You know, it's like that. I keep thinking about that beautiful picture of all those young Republicans at the C.J.

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Pearson, you know, organized inaugural ball and New York magazine calling them the cruel table. It's like, no, that's the face of the up and coming generation. Young Trumpers who are gorgeous, promising, hopeful, optimistic, patriotic. That's what drives the left crazy. who are so focused on Zay, Zem, and we don't have enough non-binaries. Is there any woman here with a penis? Anyone at all?

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Is there any man here with ovaries? Please. Oh, we can't get to a quorum. And this is why, just to add more color to it, Politico reporting on X that Dems are in a bit of disarray over this whole thread by Dave Weigel, who works for Semaphore, who talked about some of the crazy answers these candidates gave on how they think they're doing.

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Like, we should take money from good billionaires, not bad ones. And anyway, the quote repeated by Politico was, we are so fucked, said one Democratic strategist. They even they see it still.

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After that interview with J.D. Vance and Margaret Brennan, I don't really care, Margaret. Margaret is the new Karen. Okay, Debbie Murphy, Canadian Debbie, tells me we cannot end this segment without me playing the following soundbite. This is from, I mentioned there were a bunch of candidates who were running. Other than the white guy who won.

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And I want to introduce you to Dr. Quintessa Hathaway of Arkansas, who told the audience she wanted to give them something that's been on her heart here over the last couple of days. And then this.

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Quintessa, sadly, you are no longer in the running toward becoming the next DNC chair. You received, oh, this checks notes, zero votes for that apparently not rousing rendition of You Fight On. This, we have Trump and they have Quintessa still. I'm feeling like we're in good shape. All right, I got to move on because I can't let you go without getting to the Grammys.

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I watched no Grammys. I just watched some of the clips and the responses on X. And within about two minutes, I think the world knew that Kanye, now known as Ye, and his wife, question mark, Bianca Sensori, showed up there and she was naked. So we have blurred this because we do have kids who watch the show, but she dropped that fur coat and you see full vag... big fake boobs and her naked bottom.

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And she's, I guess, wearing a, quote, mesh dress, which is totally invisible. You cannot see that at all. It doesn't even appear. I mean, the best was she kept trying to pull it down Like the dress, like, sweetheart, we've seen your badge. There's no reason to pull it down. If you had any hopes of modesty, they ended when you chose that outfit.

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And Stu, I have to just say, a couple of thoughts on this. First of all, it's so crass. It's so classless. I mean, any of us, you, me, Canadian Debbie, Steve Krakauer, my EP, if any of us just took off all of our clothes and showed up at the Grammys wearing mesh, a mesh dress, we would get tons of attention. It's because you've crossed another new societal low.

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It's not because, ooh, we all want to see you naked. There's no question she has a beautiful body. She's a beautiful woman. We knew that from all the other nude pictures. But to show up at the red carpet like this at a festive event totally naked is just another blow to our already craven society. Something kids sometimes watch, right?

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If you're not smart, you don't let your kids watch the Grammys, but just saying what she wanted them to see was her naked body. That's what she wants people to know about her. I find it disgusting. I'm not like angry because I don't let my kids watch these things anymore, but I'll just put it to you this way.

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My kids, I was telling them about it in the car because I thought they might hear about it at school. And I, of course, my 15 year old Googled it and it wouldn't even pull up on his phone. Right. Because we've got like screeners on there because it's pornographic, but it's shoved in our face at every turn, especially by these two.

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Especially as you've been sleeping with Kanye, who slept with Kim. God only knows what you're getting. No, not suggesting anybody has a disease. Just saying, you know, you don't want that trail coming your way. They didn't actually make it into the venue. They, they, There were reports they were kicked out because they weren't invited.

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But then there was a report clarifying from, I think, Entertainment Weekly saying, no, no, no, they were invited. He'd been nominated for something. They just didn't go in. They came, they posed, they walked out. Because obviously they were just there for the photo op. Can I just remind you, this was Kanye on with Tucker shortly before they booted Tucker off of Fox News, trying to play all like...

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Oh, I'm a man of God now. I object to the objectification of women. I think it's... Well, let's start with... I don't know. SART 7. Yeah, SART 7.

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I've seen Skims promotions, many of them. I've never seen Kim Kardashian's full vag on display. Even she hasn't gone that far. I've actually never seen her full boobs in promotion of Skims. I've seen them many times elsewhere on the internet. Thanks to you, Kanye, who participated in that one shoot, I'm told, where she had the champagne coming out of that, whatever.

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He definitely tweeted it out and wrote all day long. And then he added this to Tucker for good measure. It's not eight.

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This is an opinion about the way in which he has been behaving, which is totally fair. I, I'm like, I would like to state for the record that I have, I did never, I did not buy into this. And I did not, I did not put him on the air or try to milk that for ratings like Chris Cuomo did. Um, I just, you could see he wasn't, there's something off and I have no wish to exploit it.

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But I feel like this wife, I used to think she was exploited. I now think she's totally in on it. She's in on it. Like she just wants to be a star. I have zero use for these two. Okay. Ms. Alicia Keys accepts the Dr. Dre Global Impact Award and uses it. Ms. Alicia Keys of the, oh, I swear I wasn't coincidentally wearing the Palestinian colors like hours after 10-7. No, I wasn't. I swear.

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Okay. Destructive forces try to burn us down. I mean, obviously I believe that was yet another reference to Israel. By the way, it was the Hamas who did the burning of actual people and babies. Alicia, you might want to actually do a little research before you go out there and wag your tongue because you don't know what the F you're talking about. Anyway, your thoughts.

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You had Shakira who did, she pulled a Selena Gomez, like the immigrants. You had Lady Gaga make it all about trans people are not invisible and These people are very annoying and you really should pause before you think about giving them your money. All right. It's like, oh, then Beyonce, Beyonce, she's won 33 Grammys, including for best country album last night.

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Meanwhile, they, you know, somebody went through and did the list. Hold on a second. I have it here. It's actually outrageous. So did you know, listen to this too. Somebody tweeted this out. Mike Harlow. Frank Sinatra got 11 Grammys. The Beatles won seven. Judy Garland, two. The Rolling Stones, three. Beyonce, 33. Most overrated artist of all time. I totally agree with that.

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And by the way, you don't have to take my word for it or Mike Harlow's word for it. Listen to what John Rich tweeted. Folks are asking me how to music award shows work. He writes labels and publishers all have blocks of votes. They make deals with each other. You vote for mine. We'll vote for yours type thing. It has zero to do with who made the best music.

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Thus Beyonce with country album of the year. Nice, right? The same thing is true with the CMAs, the ACMs, billboard, et cetera, all work exactly the same. Last night, the Grammys outed themselves in a big way. It's ridiculous. Her husband, I'm sure, pays for all these aggressive marketing campaigns. And we're supposed to pretend that Queen Bey is unassailable in her country music attempts.

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Well, you know what? She isn't. We're not buying it. We know what happened and how she got this award and how she got her 33 Grammys when you've got two for the Judy Garland's of the world. Your thoughts.

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I know it's ridiculous. We know what you're doing. It's obvious what the industry is doing. It's just not the same as it used to be. Like there was a time when true merit determined who won these awards. That time has come and gone and Americans know it. They know it, whether it's an Oscar campaign or a Grammy's campaign.

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And these stars are making fools out of themselves in trying to walk over into political commentary. No one believes they have any working knowledge of the issues. And by the way, I'm convinced on that Alicia Keys reference. We know what you're doing. We realize you thought what Hamas did was aces. You made that clear. You're disgusting. Stu Bergier is not disgusting. He's a champ.

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All right, coming up next, U.S. Senator Tommy Tuberville. Coach is here. I mean, this is one of the most respected, celebrated, most winning coaches of all time. And he happens to be a U.S. senator who for years...

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has been pushing to protect girls in sports, and he's about to blow the whistle on his fellow Republicans for not getting this bill, which already been passed in the House, a vote on the Senate floor. Don't miss that. You might have heard about this new brand called XXXY Athletics. It's the only athletic brand standing up for women's sports.

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It was founded by former elite gymnast and longtime Levi's top executive, Jennifer Say. XXXY Athletics actually knows men cannot become women. Hello? And while we've had some wins as of late, we're not done. Trump's executive order only impacts sports governed by Title IX that take place within federally funded education institutions. That leaves competitions and sports governed by the U.S.

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Go to thetruthfits.com. Don't forget that code MK20. I'm Megyn Kelly, host of The Megyn Kelly Show on Sirius XM. It's your home for open, honest, and provocative conversations with the most interesting and important political, legal, and cultural figures today. You can catch The Megyn Kelly Show on Triumph, a Sirius XM channel featuring lots of hosts you may know and probably love.

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Now we turn to a subject that was key to the 2024 presidential election and a key issue here on our show, the protection of women and girls in sports. A bill titled Protection of Women and Girls in Sports Act passed through the House on January 15th, 218 to 206.

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The legislation bans federal funds from going to institutions that allow biological males in sports and requires Title IX provisions to solely recognize biological sex. But now the bill is being stalled in the GOP-controlled Senate. Hello, what? And my next guest has more on the GOP leadership failing to bring the legislation for a vote.

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He's such a chatty Kathy. I'm like, honey, I need my coffee. President Trump's up and at him. Okay, so a lot of big things happening. We're going to go through it. News today about these terror threats against Mexico and Canada, where it appears Mexico's already folded. Fast action from Secretary Rubio down in Panama. You know, he kind of gave us a preview of what he was going to do down there.

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Senator Tommy Tuberville of Alabama has been on the front lines working to pass this legislation, and he's been working for years. I went back and looked at the number of times he's tried to bring this up when nobody wanted to hear from him, when it appeared to have no chance of passing. He brought it up. He brought it up again. He brought it up again.

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He has been like a dog with a bone on this, a true ally to women and girls everywhere. And there's a reason I think he's got a historic background. in the sports world. As a former head coach for several college football teams, Senator Tuberville, Coach Tuberville, welcome to the show.

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I'm your huge fan. Like the number of times you have tried to push this boulder up the hill really makes me respect you, even when you knew there was no way a Democrats-controlled Senate was going to give you a vote. But then- GOP wins control of the Senate. And what we've seen since you guys took over in the Senate and the House now is... The House passed it and it got massaged a bit.

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They passed it again. They said, yeah, OK, here we go back to you guys over in the Senate. And we've been waiting. I've been waiting to see a vote by the GOP controlled Senate on this thing is much better, notwithstanding Trump's executive orders. If it can become law, law that can't just be undone by an executive order four years from now. So why aren't we seeing a vote?

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So that's you with the six, one, two, three, four, five, six. They all appear to be approaching middle age or around middle age.

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Would John Thune not wanted to come to the floor? He certainly wouldn't want to protect Democrats. He must know Republicans who are not ready to vote for this thing.

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The guy that you have your arm around, he looks younger, with all due respect. The others look closer to your age and my age.

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Is there some belief that this can't pass and they only want wins right now? They only want to put legislation on the floor that can get through.

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Can you just tell me when you said that there are girls sports teams in the United States that are filled entirely with boys posing as girls? You know, I just heard a story. I'm not going to name the school because I haven't confirmed this, but it's a mom friend of mine. And I believe her because she had a kid at this school in Westchester, a private school.

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They hired a new sports director, athletic director. And then they turfed this guy because he didn't believe in allowing boys into girls sports. And the school made a conscious decision that not only did they want boys in the girls' sports, but they had a plan to stack the entire girls' ice hockey team with biological boys so that they could be totally dominant against other schools.

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So I do have some information in my own personal world that, that they're doing this now for competitive advantages, but you're, you probably hear from a lot more people than I do in your role. So is that true? Like what, what sports are they filling the whole roster with boys? Yeah.

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No, you're 100% right. The New York Times just did this poll in January of 2025, as in a few days ago, 79% of respondents said biological males who identify as female should not be allowed to compete in women's and girls' sports. 67% of Democrats said that, 94% of Republicans, 64% of independents. These are huge majorities, even within the Democrat party.

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We think we have the Republican votes, maybe, maybe not Murkowski. I've heard a little wiggling from Susan Collins, but I don't, I don't know. Even if you counted those two out, um, I, I feel like we have the votes needed to pass it. We just don't think we have the votes for cloture. Is that true?

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And you had like a preview of what the Democrat argument is on this from AOC in the House who actually explained or claimed that this is going to lead to inspections of little girls going into the locker room to make sure they're female. I mean, just the worst fear-mongering. Here is her soundbite in SOP 30.

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It's total fear-mongering. So what we need is for Leader Thune to call for a vote on the Senate floor so that we have names. We have actual names of the Democrats who are standing in the way of what 67% of their base, of their voters, want. I don't see how that's a downside for Republicans at all. Even if we don't kick cloture, let's see them vote. Let's see those senators say, I am not for this.

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And we can campaign accordingly thereafter. While I have you, can I ask you about... the president's nominees, because I saw you, uh, I went to the Hegseth confirmation hearing. I saw you did a very nice job.

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RFKJ, Tulsi Gabbard, Kash Patel, um, news out today is of, you know, Hegseth's been confirmed, but of those I named maybe Tulsi's on the least steady ground in terms of getting confirmed in the Senate. Um, do you agree with that? And do you think she'll get through?

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Amen to that. Well, fingers crossed on all three of them. Last question. So does this mean, since you used to coach Patrick Mahomes, that you're rooting for the Chiefs at the big game this Sunday?

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Oh, very nice. Okay. I'm, I'm going to confess. I, I am going to the Superbowl. Uh, I've never been to one before, but Doug and I are going, and I am going to be rooting for the Eagles because even though I don't really love the Eagles coach, I gotta be honest. Ever since the Michael Vick thing, I have hold it.

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I've held it against them and I'm a Giants fan, but I am going, the Giants aren't in it. I am going to root for the Eagles out of marital support and love. Um, so we'll see, maybe I'll bet you a dollar. I'll bet you a dollar that the Eagles will win. You take that bet.

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Thanks for all the great work you've been doing on this. Really appreciate it. It's a very simple, very simple act.

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It says sex shall be recognized based solely on a person's reproductive biology and genetics at birth, and that it will be a violation for someone receiving federal funds who runs a sports program to allow someone whose sex is male to participate in an athletic program or activity designed for girls. That's it. It's really not that complicated. Get behind it or get voted out of office, Democrats.

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You remember that poll we saw? 3,000 swing state voters. The number one issue they voted on in the 2024 presidential election was the gender thing. And the sports thing is a huge part of that. It just makes sense to people that boys shouldn't be playing against girls. Get on board or get left behind, especially these senators from those six swing states. Make them vote.

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Make them say they won't allow a vote on this very simple bill. Leader Thune, it's the least you can do to reward people like Senator Tuberville, who's worked so hard on this legislation that has majority support of the nation, never mind the House and the Senate. Thanks to all of you. for listening.

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We are going to be back tomorrow with a very interesting show with our legal eagles, Mike and Dave. I mean, there's so much stuff happening in Trump world. Is any of it going to pass muster in the legal world? We've already seen some challenges filed and much, much more. So don't miss that show and we will see you soon. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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Oh, no. So are we going to go back for them by your total that you said 12 that we should have six still there?

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He's worried about the Chinese influence. Well, he already scored a big W down there. And I think it's going to be the first of many because President Trump wants the whole kit and caboodle. He doesn't want just small wins. He wants the big victory. And we'll talk about what that means. Plus, we have got to, in just a bit, talk about last night's Grammys. Of course, you didn't watch them.

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No man left behind. I know you guys made a phone call to President Trump from the plane. And we have a little bit of that. Take a listen here.

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Neither did I. Nobody watched them. We only see the clips online. But it does give you a little window into how how insane these so-called cultural leaders of the music industry are. They're just, I mean, it used to be kind of cool to be a musician, right? To like, Somebody who could fill a stadium in Italy, in France, in Denver with people jumping up and down and loving them.

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Unbelievable. Rick, I, I hate to say, to use this word, you guys almost made it look easy. So what, why, why wasn't the last administration doing this? I mean, obviously there was a deal to be had and I don't, did Venezuela get anything other than the threat of Trump's wrath? Like how did we get them?

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and happy Monday. I had the most unbelievable weekend that you are going to find out about very soon. We have something really special for you coming up later this week.

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And we could go on, just go to Drew Holden and follow his timeline because it's got so many examples from the Times, from the Post, from others. And Drew works for you, Eliana, so you know he's telling the truth.

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It's really incredible. You had a New York Times article like a month ago, Emily, on on covid. We were misled. And now the line on Biden's cognitive decline. We we missed it. We just in good faith now standing our best efforts to snuff it out. We missed it. And then George Clooney, for that matter.

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You know, he's doing a press tour for his Broadway show saying like, you know, I felt the need to speak up because people in my party weren't telling the truth. I was always ready to speak truth to power.

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A month after he saw Biden almost fall off the stage and incomprehensible and unable to talk, he kept his mouth shut until after the presidential debate when the Democrats could visually see their presidential hopes swirling the bowl and he was refusing to go. Speak out.

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I'm sorry, but I am not going to let any of these people, whether it's Alex Thompson at Axios or George Clooney or The New York Times, any of them claim that this was a good faith mistake that people missed despite their best efforts. It's a lie. It was a an intentional cover up and desire not to know.

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Here's James Rosen. I misspoke earlier when I said 18 months, it was eight months. He was blackballed at the white house. And this is how James put it in his own words. When I asked the POTUS president of the United States on January 19th, 2022 about this issue, it was considered rude. And I was blackballed in briefings for eight months. Here was that question, January 19th, 2022.

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It was asked directly, unsparingly, but politely. There was nothing rude about it. He got re... Where is James Rosen's award? Where is his recognition? I'm sorry, but this is a farce. This is a farce. And it wasn't the only... farce of the evening or reason to disrespect these people and their stupid, meaningless awards.

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The Award for Excellence in Presidential News Coverage by a Visual Journalist, meaning a photog. What was the most iconic photo of the presidential contest or any presidential candidate in 2024? Do you have to think more than two seconds to know what it was?

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Yeah, it was Butler, Pennsylvania. There were a couple of them, one from Getty, one from the New York Times, but there were iconic photos of President Trump underneath that flag with the fist up fight that obviously Democrat or Republican, we all know it was that picture was unlike anything we'd ever seen before. Absolutely spectacular. This is the AP photo and magnificent.

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I'll get the names of the photogs. Nope. It went to Doug Mills of the New York Times for his photo of Joe Biden. Stand by, we'll show it to you. So Doug Mills of the New York Times is a great photographer.

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And this is what they gave it to him for. This is Doug Mills' photo of Trump, which did not win. Wasn't it nominated for a Pulitzer? I'm pretty sure it was nominated for a Pulitzer. But no, but not good enough for the White House Correspondents Dinner because they felt the one of Joe Biden looking pensive under a shot of Abe Lincoln was the most compelling shot of the year, Emily.

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I mean, Trump is both a former president and was the Republican nominee for president. It's like and and frankly, in 2024, became president. Well, won the presidency. It's like. I don't. Is there going to be some rule, do we think, in the White House Correspondents Association book that it must be of the sitting president and not of a campaign trail photo?

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Do we really think if Kamala Harris had been almost shot and stood up and said fight with the flag all around her, even though she was only vice president and she was the campaign, you know, for a short time, actual nominee, that they wouldn't, that wouldn't be their shot? Baloney. Go ahead, Eliana.

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Here's why they did it. Eugene Daniels to give out that award. Eugene Beyonce Daniels. There's a whole other story with him. We'll get to that. But no, there he is. This is the president of the White House Correspondents. This is the guy. a guy with a question mark. He literally thinks he's Beyonce. He puts on Beyonce hair and dresses like a woman and tries to find his inner fierceness, whatever.

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That's the president of the White House Correspondents Association. But that's a different story. The reason they did it, Eliana, trust me, is because right now with Trump in office, they need to say, we've fell down on the job, but we need to shore up our resolve and never miss again. Now that it's Trump, I would stake every dollar I have on this press. I agree with all that.

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I totally agree with that. Yes. So it's not a genuine come to Jesus moment or a risk for them to do this by nominating Alex Thompson. It's all part of setting. This is the part of the drama in which we find ourselves unwitting audience members.

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But now, but now they want, now they are, now they see themselves as that. But anyway, here's a Eugene Beyonce Daniels sought 16.

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There he is. Eugene Beyonce. Go ahead, Emily. She's listening to your laugh during that. It was the highlight of my morning so far.

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So, you know, the other thing about it is Eliana, you know, journalists. Yeah. Especially the ones who cover the white house have long hours at times. Um, and there are obviously over the past 20 years have been journalists who have deployed and taken big risks and actually suffered consequences of them. Um, as a result of taking on those dangerous assignments.

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Yes, I totally agree with you. Same answer for me. I've been. I didn't go. I had zero desire to go. I did speak with Maureen Callahan, who went, which she considered to be research for her new podcast, which is called The Nerve. Everyone should go and subscribe. It's doing great. She's crushing it. But anyway, I don't want to steal her thunder, but she basically described virtually every...

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So I don't mean any disrespect to those, but it is a very small collection of the overall. I mean, it's under 5%. 95% of journalists have a rather simple, easy job that tends to be an eight-hour day in an air-conditioned office where they have to pull a story off of the wire and repurpose it as copy for their own publication.

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There are great reporters like we see at the Free Beacon and so on, but I'm just saying, to talk about us Like we're sacrificing it all like a Marine on the front lines, like sacrificing dinner with their families. I mean, you know what it like on my team, if they sacrifice dinner with their families, they're probably going to get the next morning off. It's like, that's the way.

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And I've worked at Fox news for 14 years. I worked at ABC. I worked at NBC. It's really not that bad. It's truly not. One of the great things of being a journalist is if you lose, you know, eight days straight at the office. They tend to give you a few days off, especially all these union shops. Like I can't stand that he's painting this.

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Like it compares, forget to being a Marine, but to being like a liver surgeon. This is ridiculous. The self-congratulatory back padding, like Beyonce needs to take a seat. This is not like her lemonade years. This is like, she's over the hill now in her messaging. I'm not picking up what she's putting down.

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You can't. I would say. for somebody who's not a they-them. I'm sorry, I don't want a they-them at the head of the White House correspondence today. It's ridiculous. He looks like a fool. Those pictures of him completely undermine any credibility that he has, as does his MSNBC contract, as he lectures us about speaking truth to power. Really? Did MSNBC do that during the Biden years?

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Because I spent a lot of time watching Joe Scarborough, the face of the network, tell me it was the best Biden ever, the best Biden ever. Not to mention all the race hustling that's gone on on that channel for years, and it's particularly in the primetime. So I'm not sure, Eugene, that I can take you at your word about speaking truth to power if you would sign up for a gig with that outlet.

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Don't get me started on Politico, which is also a left-wing rag that exists to do nothing other than prop up Dems and strike down Republicans. Okay, so that's them. While we're on the subject of infirmity, I've got to get to a story you ladies never thought you'd be talking about here in the MK show, and it's not politics. It has to do with Bill Belichick, right? Did you see this?

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I'm sorry, but it dovetails. As healthy as ever. Yeah, he's never been better. So he was the coach of the Patriots for all these, you know, Super Bowls. The audience knows I know next to nothing about sports, but I know enough to know he coached the Patriots while Tom Brady was the star and they won all those Super Bowl rings.

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guest who she talked to as doing the following. And it's not just Maureen. They do this to everybody. For the listening audience, I'm pretending to look over somebody's shoulder. It's so annoying. I've been there too. It's so effed up. It's like, they're always looking for someone more important. You really want to be like, Listen, effer, there is no one more important.

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And now he's taken a job coaching football at the college level in North Carolina because he was fired, I guess, by Robert Kraft, which is something I didn't know, but it was said in this CBS interview of Bill Belichick that hit on Sunday morning. And the reporter, Tony Doka pool specifically said to him, like you were fired. And he said it was by mutual agreement.

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And he said, well, Robert Kraft is the owner said he fired you. And he's like, it was by mutual agreement. But this interview has, you know, I only cover sports if it's, if it migrates over into the news lane, that's how it comes to my notice. It's gotta be a very big sports sports story, which this one is for weird reasons. Um,

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So this guy, Bill Belichick, has been in the news lately because his girlfriend, I think, is 50 years of 47 to 50 years difference between Belichick and his young gal pal. She's 24.

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Oh my God. So she shows up at these black tie events with him wearing nothing. She's basically wearing like a bikini and he's wearing a normal man's clothing. And it looks weird. You're like, okay, whatever. I guess I'm not... Who am I to judge? But I'm judging. I won't lie. It's weird.

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And I'm pretty sure she is with him because he's very famous and probably has a lot of money and gets her access to cool things. That's my guess. I'm just going to say it. But anyway, he gives this interview and now it's starting to look much more like a Jill Biden situation. That's all I could think of, you guys. Like she's like Dr. Jill on the sidelines calling all the shots and like trying to...

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decide what he can answer and what he can't in this interview. And what we learned today, I'll show you the clip, but what we learned today was that it was far worse than CBS this morning, which is like a nice program. They try to do like nice stories would even air. They own the reason reportedly that they chose to air this one interruption of hers is because it was far worse than this.

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She was trying to dominate behind the scenes and they felt it was okay to to include one of her interruptions just to give the audience, just to be transparent that they had this monster on screen left who was completely trying to control him. And it was to the point where they didn't feel like it would have journalistic integrity if they didn't show at least some of it. Watch this.

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And it went on like the portion I talked to you about, like it went on and on to where it was very cringy. You were like, Oh God, she was right off screen for the listening audience.

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I'm standing here right in front of you. I've made the time to talk to you. I showed up at your stupid party. You're so rude, but that's how they all are because it's a bunch of glommers who want to climb some corporate ladder in Washington in the press corps. What is the apex of that in today's day and age?

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She was right off screen, almost like a, like a music producer would be as the band is doing a demo in a music studio where you can see the music producers just like three feet to the left with the headphones on, like running the controls. That's where she was, which is very weird. It's weird for an interview like that. You don't,

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If the spouse is going to be any place, they're normally like behind, out of sight from both the interviewer and the interviewee. So it's not to be a distraction. Not only was she in sight, but she was a constant distraction. Eliana, what are we to make of this?

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Wait, we have that too, Eliana. Apologies. Let's play it and then you take it on the back side.

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Steve Krakauer is saying in my ear that they were on his account and then he appears to have taken them down. Like he at some point was a collaborator and then they took them down. Which is even worse. You never take it down. Just don't take it down. Unless it's like a total error that you really genuinely missed. Don't take it down. It's worse. What is this? What are we seeing here?

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I don't really know, but this thing has been dwindled down to the smallest, most pathetic version of itself, with no stars, I mean, none. We used to have like Scarlett Johansson there. I mean, I mocked George Clooney, but at the height of his fame, he showed up at this thing. Now it was like some C-lister from some cop show I never heard of. I don't, it's like, I didn't know who these people were.

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Well, a short, a nice short form is whipped. We'll just put it that way. Yeah, let's put it that way.

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Right, don't tempt the bull. And when you're dealing with the news media, they're the bull. There's no point in waving the red flag. They already want to get you. There's no reason in making it even worse. Here's that part of that exchange to which I referred about whether he was fired. Just to show you, he just seems out of it. Here's Thought24.

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So I don't know what's happening there. His dad went to Navy, I think may have coached at Navy. He's coaching now at UNC, which is a major program. And I don't follow sports again, but Steve is telling me that he was on ESPN as recently as last year, sounding like a normal person. He did play college ball because, honestly, I looked at him first. I'm like, is this a CTE situation?

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I don't know what I'm seeing. But I know that if the situation were reversed and we had a, what, 74-year-old female and a 24-year-old male in the background, like, we're not talking about that. We'd be accusing him of elder abuse and asking whether he was guilty of coercive control. and whether this woman was okay. And honestly, I've got all those same questions here.

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I'm not sure we're ever going to get any answers, but she's got major Dr. Jill vibes, Eliana.

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With all due respect to the actors and actresses, it's just, we used to have the creme de la creme of the Hollywood crowd. Now they can't get anybody. Trump used to go. Trump used to go. Exactly right. Supreme Court justices used to be all over the place. Helen Mirren I saw one time at these things. It was like, I'm just saying, it used to be household names if they got Hollywood celebs.

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Yeah. By the way, to the question of how they met, it's even stranger because she tweeted it out. She posted it on her Instagram post. that if you go to her Instagram, I'm sure you guys are all on her Instagram daily. TMZ reports they met on a flight from Boston to Florida in 2021.

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To all the people whose phone calls and messages I blew off yesterday, I apologize. You will soon understand fully why it was necessary. And I think you will forgive me instantly when you see the bit of work product that we have in store for all of our viewers and listeners. It's the greatest. It's just so funny. Okay. But we begin today someplace else. That's a tease for you.

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And then I clicked the link and it takes it to her Insta where she has like a book and he's inscribed it to her and it's dated 2-12-21. And it's like, thank you for explaining whatever to me on this flight. And so they allegedly met on this flight and then he sent her this book. Now, why would she not want people knowing that? Because- That's there's nothing wrong with meeting on a flight.

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What's the story there? That makes me think, like, how did you get on the flight? Was there a phone call through an intermediary that got you on that flight? Who was the intermediary? Was there any sort of business transaction involved? Why? Like, what is it that you're so self-conscious about? Why can't we probe how you how you met? Right. Like, I don't know.

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Yeah, the defensiveness about it is what makes me wanna know more. I couldn't really give two flying figs how they met until I saw she doesn't wanna tell me, notwithstanding the fact that she posted it. And now actually I'm interested, now you got me.

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Now, and it's not just me, you're gonna have the TMZs of the world digging like they've never dug before, which is another media unsavvy thing to do. All right, I have good news for you. The thing that I did this weekend, the thing that I wanna share with you I'm going to be able to show you when we come back from this break, just the tease. All right. So, but the tease is so wonderful.

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So standby, it's up next. And we will be back with the EJs who we have for the whole show. Tax day may have passed, but for millions of Americans, the real trouble is just the beginning. If you miss the April 15th deadline or still owe back taxes, the IRS is ramping up enforcement, and every day you wait might make things worse.

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A very special and important announcement to bring to you now. This Friday, an epic event here on The Megyn Kelly Show. The official worldwide trailer release for the special film, Blonde Origin. Here's a sneak peek.

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Now it's like, who? Who's that? You Google them. You kind of know the name of that show, but usually not really. And just the most insulting bit of information there. Okay, there were a couple of misfires. I'm going to start with this one. So they had Alex Thompson of Axios get up there, who received an award for... Okay, wait, I want to make sure I have the right... title. Hold on. What is it?

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I don't appreciate when people call it a ride. It's not a ride. It's a mission. There's nothing frivolous about what we just did.

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Okay, how far will we go to troll the absurdity? That's the question. And the answer is very, very, very far. You will see for yourselves just how far on Friday in an epic segment that is going to be unlike any other. It was incredibly fun. Maureen Callahan, my friend and hairstylist, Sarah Clemente and I, um,

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went to the great unknown to see whether it was worth it so we could say we've been oh yeah we've been and according to Gail King you cannot criticize them unless you can answer that question yes we we have our cred and it's on let's just say that okay we show you the full thing we intentionally did not show you the fun shots really fun ones here because we want you to tune in and I think everyone's really going to enjoy it I can see you ladies are looking forward to it

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I mean, really only a very small few of us privileged, lucky ones get to experience it. And I only really like to talk to those who have. So sorry, but you're not on the list. Sorry.

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Okay. She's busy doing what I'm told is the worst tour anyone's ever seen. In fact, my crack team apparently saw this coming too, because... Here is the video of her terrible dancing that is so bad it's making national news. Watch this. Okay, for the listening audience, she's like shoving her hands down and up like you would if you were like a cheerleader.

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Now she's doing some sort of robot thing like your five-year-old does. Now this looks like my dancing, which is a true tragedy. Now she's shaking her bottle, which literally everyone does and can do. And she's back to the MK dance, which is bad. Oh, my God. And then what? She just got picked up the way your two parents will pick you up when they're holding your hands and they're swinging you.

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And then she ends with a crotch shot. OK, we got we got the picture. This is why, lady, she couldn't go on. Not she did the blue origins, but she didn't do the blonde origin because she's out there. I mean, when you are looking at it thinking I can do that, that's a bad that's a bad thing.

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She can't blame it on that. Trust me. That's all I'm going to say. Just trust me. She can't blame it on being in space because a lot of people have been there. OK, that's all I'm going to say or no. OK. OK, let's move back to the news.

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This Wisconsin judge who got arrested late last week by the FBI completely justifiably because it looks like she obstructed justice when ICE showed up in her courtroom to arrest a suspected illegal immigrant. And he was in the midst of a criminal proceeding because he'd been accused of battering somebody, two people who were there in the courtroom ready to give testimonials.

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And this judge, upon seeing that Ice was there with intent to deport this man, who I think had already been, he already had a deportation order, shepherded him out, kicked out Ice, shepherded him out a back door, the door used by the jury, and then into the hallway along with his defense lawyers. And then he ran. One Ice guy was left at the front door unbeknownst to the judge.

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And I guess he saw them come out the other way and went over and was like, he started chasing him a little, like following him. And then he caught up with him and the guy ran, he took off. So then they did catch him and they went back and they arrested this judge for obstruction of justice. Listen to how Rachel Maddow described this issue.

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Alex Thompson. Oh God. Is it, did I not write it down? I can't find it. His was, I think the Aldo Beckman award for his coverage of the coverup of Biden's mental decline. All right. They gave him an award for this. And here is how he sounded when he took that award.

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dangerous and irresponsible escalation. It was an escalation. She literally makes it sound like this was just over a ruling Trump didn't like, that he sent in the FBI to go arrest him, as opposed to what actually happened was she obstructed justice, allegedly.

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I haven't seen any facts that would save her from that charge, not one put out by her side or anybody else, and is going to look at consequences for it the same as anyone else who obstructed justice would, Emily.

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I mean, you might be able to find a better example that that judge down in New Mexico, who's now accused of actually harboring a trend to Aragua gang member. Here's Pam Bondi on Fox News talking about that on Friday.

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And yet this New Mexico judge accused of harboring this guy, it's a problem. Even judges can go too far, can obstruct justice, can violate the harboring laws. And what are we supposed to do? Just give them a pass because somebody gave them a judicial robe, Eliana?

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Seems pretty bad. Yes, it says he was charged with three counts of misdemeanor battery, domestic violence and infliction of physical harm. The charges stem from a March 12th fight that occurred between Flores Ruiz and two roommates after he was accused of playing music too loudly in the home. The complaint says he punched one roommate 30 times, then hit a woman who tried to end the fight.

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He pleaded not guilty. To the charges, but they showed up and were sitting there and wanted to give testimony and couldn't because this judge scurried him out the back. I mean, she cut the proceedings short. That's the allegation so that she could save him from ice. He had been previously deported. And by the way, notwithstanding that.

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They say he was actually going to be provided still a notice of intent and decision to reinstate the prior order of deportation. So another layer of due process on this guy. He would have had the opportunity to contest the determination by making a written or oral statement to an immigration officer. But no, none of that is acceptable.

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If you ask the left, here's New York Times is David Brooks on this. Judge Dugan sought seven.

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Oh, no, they think the left is... The narrative on this is that this was intimidation. This was the Trump administration trying to intimidate all judges as if... If they if they had wanted to do that, if that were their goal, as if they wouldn't have done something to Judge Boasberg, that's the one they can't stand.

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That's the one who's done all sorts of things to Team Trump, including finding them in criminal contempt before the U.S. Supreme Court. Well, after he found them after the U.S. Supreme Court said you didn't have jurisdiction over this case, but he proceeded anyway. If there were a judge they really wanted to intimidate, it would have been Boasberg. They haven't.

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Trump has sent out mean tweets about him. OK, literally everybody on Earth has had a mean tweet from President Trump. Um, this is, this is a federal district court judge who has absolutely no, no business, right? She's federal district court, um, and doing this kind of thing.

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Any other, she's state, she's state, any other federal or state judge would have been arrested for doing this with a criminal defendant who was under the federal watch. It was about to be arrested by the feds. Here is the messaging though. Uh, it's a montage from the Dems sat 10.

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Yeah. So that's where they're going to go with it. And my question for you is, this is what, like, I don't know, the fifth big individual case that's come up in the immigration lane, right? Since Trump started the deportations, we had Mahmoud Khalil, the spokesperson for the I missed one. There was another one in there.

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We have this judge now, like there's whatever, there's been a handful of like individual names that people are starting to know as sort of the face of the Trump immigration or deportation struggle. And is it starting to work from the left? Because we have seen polls today that are not great for Trump.

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Trump's pushing back on them, citing his own internal pollster, who's very good, John McLaughlin, saying that they are weighted too heavily to Democrats and independents. They don't have enough Republican or Trump voters in there. I'm not sure about that. You know, we actually looked at we did a compare and contrast.

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Now, this guy is being universally praised for saying this. And I'm sorry, with all due respect, that is a joke. We missed, we, myself included, missed a lot of this story. We bear some responsibility for faith in the media being at such lows. What a lie, Emily. We missed it. That's the problem with the Biden decline story that the press Missed it.

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And while there aren't that many Republicans in there, it seems to be the same amount of Republicans that most pollsters use. It's basically like 30, 30. I'll tell you exactly what they are. Um, for example, the New York times poll, which is terrible. Trump has a sampling of 30% GOP Dem 28%.

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So it's two percentage points, more Republicans and 33% independence, which actually to me seems to be what hurt him because he's not doing well with independence. You look back at a harvest Harris poll, Harvard Harris, which had Trump up to this month. All these other polls are finding him down. They had it. GOP 35, Dem 33.

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So it had GOP up to same as New York times, but they had, um, the overall sampling had more Republicans and Democrats than it did independence. They had 28% independence versus 33% independence in the New York times poll, which I think wound up hurting Trump. Like independence have turned on him. That's what I think the headline of these latest polls, uh, is, uh,

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they don't, they don't like all the stuff that like the base likes and, and, or at least finds fine, you know, as like not nonplussed by the Dems who voted for Trump and the independents who voted for Trump, who are more like, not like the really right-leaning ones, but even the left-leaning independents are mad. He's starting to lose support with those groups. And it's in several polls.

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Hold on a second. Let me find my numbers so we can go through some of them. Okay. You've got Trump's overall approval rating. NBC, 45, disapprove, 55. So he's 10 points underwater. CBS, 45, 55, same, 10 points under. ABC, Washington Post, which is one of the ones Trump called out, a 39% approval rating, a 55% disapproval. So that's 10 plus six is 16, 16 percentage points underwater.

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Blonde origin math. Exactly right. Because CNN, 41 percent approve, 59 percent disapprove. So that's obviously very bad. The trend line in the RealClearPolitics average of all polls, also not good. He last had a net approval on March 12th. where it was 48.3 to 48.1. And the averages are really what you should go with.

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And now it's down to negative 6.7 as of Sunday, when you look at the RealClearPolitics average of all polls. When you look at what's going wrong, why people are upset, that New York Times poll... He's starting to lose them in immigration, which has always been his strongest, but he's starting to lose support there.

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They're very unhappy about the economy in particular, and he's got really bad numbers when it comes to the economy and tariffs, which people are not in favor of. But the waning in the immigration numbers, which have held solid up until arguably right now, would be a cause for concern. It doesn't surprise me at all, Eliana, because all you hear about Trump on these stories is...

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The bad facts you don't you really do not get fair and balanced coverage like that. Mahmoud Khalil, for one, you know, they basically made him into an American citizen, which he was not. He had no right to stay here. And he was an agitator on that college campus, acting as the spokesperson for a group that was committing criminal acts on Columbia's campus, which you didn't read about.

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He's peaceful. He really wanted to negotiate a peaceful settlement. And all it would have taken was a complete divestiture by Columbia of any Jewish cause in order to do it. Right. It's like you forget that. And then Abrego Garcia, the Maryland man. I mean, it's a hoax. That's the new hoax. It's the new fine people on both sides. He's just a Maryland man who's just wearing a Chicago Bulls hoodie.

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That's it without putting into context, you know, that he was with two gang members. That is the colors. Those are the colors for MS-13. They all wear those hoodies as part of like their uniform. It's not like you wearing a Chicago Bulls hoodies, whatever. So what do you make of where Trump is on the media war as reflected by these polls?

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It was kept from them by this deceitful cabal around the president. And they just happened to miss the biggest story of the decade. That's a lie. That is not what happened. And I'm sorry, but the mere fact that Alex Thompson's is getting an award for his coverage of it is a joke.

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I think he's also doing this, Emily, like he doesn't much care about these public fights with these individuals because, A, he thinks it helps him. But, B, he thinks it's a deterrent. Like he is very focused on making sure that southern border is secure. And what better way of making sure it stays secure than scaring the living daylights out of would-be terrorists?

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traffic, you know, traffic, traffickers or border crossers that there's a new sheriff in town and you get in here illegally, even if you manage to make it past CBP, you very well may wind up in El Salvador and we won't care.

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I can name 10 so-called right-leaning conservative podcasters who were all over the Biden mental decline story for years before Alex Thompson was even touching it. Yes, he's in the mainstream. He was one who dared to touch it with a 10-foot pole. But what a joke that he gets an award for it. Are you kidding me? Steven Crowder could be up there, but they would never like we can go down the list.

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I mean, I will say I haven't looked totally deeply into the crosstabs on NYT, but their daily podcast today suggested Doge wasn't as big of an impact in the numbers when you dug deep and that they too thought the economy was big, but they actually saw a weakness for Trump on immigration as I did too in their numbers. I just think it has to be temporary because...

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the public overwhelmingly wants these people out. You know, the media is trying to highlight stories falsely of some sympathetic figure, which who aren't really sympathetic. And even today they're, they're at it again. You know, you heard this, this, um, there's this case, he's, he's deporting two and seven year olds. Now American citizens, he's deporting them.

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And Marco Rubio went on the Sunday shows to put that to bed saying that's absolutely not right. Hold on. I think we have it. Do we have the Marco Rubio's that we do here? It is, um, in SOT 13.

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But I'm sorry, Alex Thompson was not the person who blew open the Biden mental decline story. And the media did not innocently miss the story. They actively worked to cover it up for years.

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Well done, Tom Homan at the White House. That was just this morning. They're getting better at fighting these media battles, Emily.

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They are doing literally everything humanly possible to deport as many people as humanly possible. as quickly as they can it's just they've had so many there it's not a kingdom you know they they do have legal constraints and how quickly they can move even some of our viewers are writing in uh... saying you know but obama departed deported thirteen million people i don't they just do what he did

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Obama deported people at the southern border that they counted those as deportations. If he did any I don't think the number was that high. But the point was he decided at some point in his term to actually do some border enforcement and to turn the people away as they were trying to come into the country. And they counted each one of those like the ones who were turned away as deportations.

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And so he ran up his deportation number. You know, Trump, if you wanted to count deportations by that number, my God, Trump's definitely in the millions already. But that's he's actually trying to get people who are who are in the United States living in communities, trying to get jobs and so on. He wants them all out and in many cases committing crimes like it. But he doesn't really care.

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I mean, he's going to start with the worst first, but he doesn't care and make a distinction between extra criminal or just criminal. And so far as you violated our immigration laws, he wants them all gone, as do a majority of the American population. Stand by. Quick break. More on the backside.

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I can't get enough of Tom Homan. He should be out there every day. He should be at that White House press briefing room every day. Emily Jashinsky, Eliana Johnson, back with me. That's what's real. That is what's real. And those are the ones they're starting with. The child rapists, the murderers, the gang members. And we still can't get the media to give this team a fair shake.

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So it's not going to get any better. They're going to have to just plow through them. They can't work with them. They just have to plow right through them. Okay, I just wanted to show that soundbite. I want to move on because we had a big interview over the weekend. We dropped it Saturday morning with a guy named Colin Carroll. And he is one of the now fired accused leakers from the Pentagon.

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So he worked as the chief of staff for the deputy secretary of defense, Steve Feinberg. And he was fired along with two other guys over there, one of whom Tucker had on his show and the other Darren hasn't yet spoken out. And any one of these three guys could be placed in handcuffs at any point these days, they all deny that they leaked anything.

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And this was an hour and a half chance to listen to one of the accused, now fired guys, military guys, served us honorably deployed to Afghanistan multiple times. And I want to give the audience now, listening on a weekday, a chance to hear a bit from Colin. Here's SOT 31.

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So Emily, we've had the advantage now on Monday of seeing all of our viewer mail and it came in in droves, in droves about this interview. It's posted on our YouTube right now and on our podcast feed. And there wasn't one who had any doubts about him.

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And they had a myriad of reasons why they believed him fully, but there wasn't even one listener or viewer of the interview, which again is about 90 minutes long, who had even a scintilla of doubt that he was a truth teller. They could hear him do certain things that truth tellers do, like run toward the story, run toward the event that they're being asked about, in this case, leaks.

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Want a full exploration of it, not just faking, no ums and ahs as they try to dance past it or away from it. And I totally understand what they're saying. When listening to that guy, my own personal opinion is he didn't do it. I don't know why he was fired, but he spoke of a Pentagon that is having a lot of internal fights with personnel. And these are Pete's guys.

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President Trump, even over the weekend, he gave an interview to The Atlantic magazine, still reiterating that he's in Pete's corner, which is good. But it does seem like there's a bit of personnel problems going on inside the Pentagon.

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Oh, thank you. I thought I know you do that other show with Ryan Grimm and he did a great job in his reporting, which advanced the story considerably. Um, Eliana, what she said is exactly right, right? It's like, you've got the deep state, which is a real thing inside the Pentagon who don't like Pete. Then you've got more neocony Republicans who they're not his number one fans.

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his number one fans. It's, it is fair to say his number one fan, like the, the, the main Neo Connie people wanted somebody who was a little bit more bellicose and there Pete's an acceptable choice. There could, there are more, um, There are more vocal restrainers, like more on the Tucker wing that they could have gone with. So I think they accepted Pete.

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But in any event, my point is simply his main faction of support should be MAGA. And I don't know exactly who those guys are within the Pentagon, but I think all these forces have some of the forces inside the Pentagon feeling unsteady. And he's been under constant barrage since he took the oath, since before he took the oath all the way up to now. Go ahead.

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But but is the loyalty supposed to stay in place even once they fired you and basically accused you publicly of being a felon? Like the reason those two guys, both of whom had very nice things to say about Pete Hegseth, came forward is because they feel like their reputation is being completely destroyed. And it was I can speak to Colin.

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We're being gaslit here, Eliana. This is a massive gaslighting. They've ignored the entire right-wing ecosystem that reports on President Biden, that reported on him for the four years of his presidency, that were jumping up and down. This show alone did an in-depth analysis show on this back in 2021.

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I think I do. No, I disagree. I now feel like I have it figured out. But go ahead, Emily.

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I don't know if that's true, because, look, Pete went on Fox and Friends. He spoke to it from the Easter egg roll, which made a lot of news. Dan went on Tucker, which is a huge show. Colin came on this program, which is also very large. And the numbers are huge. People are definitely tuning in. I can see them. And so there's interest in these in these guys.

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And in this story, our interest is in getting it right. The left wing media wants you to just walk away with chaos at the Pentagon, chaos, chaos. It's not ideal, but it's I feel like to sum it up, it's some growing pains happening over there. And there are factions that are out to get you, you know, as a paranoia, if they really are out to get you. I'm just not sure he found the right.

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ones who are actually out to get him and time will tell on that front okay we'll talk more about it tomorrow when tucker's here uh so he and i will get into this whole thing in more detail ladies thank you both so much thanks thank you thanks for listening to the megan kelly show no bs no agenda and no fear

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Not that I need an award from the White House Correspondents, but it's a joke to signal out this guy at Axios as the leader. That's bullshit. And he perpetuated more bullshit by getting up there saying that we missed it. We, the White House Washington Press Corps, missed the story. That's not the right verb.

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But that's an important point. That's an important point. These Johnny-come-latelys in the mainstream who, just as we were going into the next presidential election, were like, gee, he seems infirm. Fuck off. Where were they when those of us were out there doing in-depth pieces on this for years prior and being dismissed as nasty, cheap fakery, et cetera, thugs against poor President Biden?

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Poor James Rosen got banned from the White House press office for 18 months. Because he dared ask a question. I don't remember Alex Thompson or these other guys standing up for James Rosen. They missed nothing.

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Joining me now to break it all down, Emily Jaschinski, DC correspondent for UnHerd and host of Undercurrents, and Eliana Johnson, editor-in-chief of the Washington Free Beacon and co-host of the Ink Stained Wretches podcast. These days, it feels like nothing surprises us anymore, right? But not necessarily in a good way.

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I'm just looking up the dates. The thing with Rose and I know happened in 2022. Our episode was June of 2022. It was actually number 339. If you want to go back and look, June of 2022, long before the presidential politics had heated up. And honestly, like, it's... There was no interest in reporting on anything that would compromise President Biden.

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None whatsoever that they this is I told you this was taken out of the interview that I gave to The New York Times recently when we were talking about media. Where was Peter Baker on the fact that a neurologist had visited the White House 10 times in the past year? Where was how was that missed?

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Why aren't they looking at the White House visitor logs the way they would during a Trump administration? He wasn't keeping them for some time. Why weren't they looking at them under President Biden, which would have shown them that he was having repeated visits from a neurologist to this moment?

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We don't fully know what's wrong with him or what was wrong with him while he was the sitting president of the United States. It's just so, I mean, Drew Holden online has done a great job of documenting some of this.

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They go through, he goes through in particular how disgusting the Washington Post was, how they did, this is closer to 2024 in the election, how they did a deep dive into the videos of his obvious problems, concluding these are more Republican lies. They just prove, quote, the politics of misinformation and conspiracy theories do not stop at the water's edge.

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how Republicans use misleading videos to attack Biden in a 24-hour period. On and on, he points out about how after the Her report on Joe Biden, well-meaning elderly man with a poor memory, they talked about how memory really works and it just changes as you age, right? Running defense for him. The New York Times did a whole big thing talking about how his infirmity was somehow a style choice.

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We read that to our audience at the time. The New York Times also claimed concerns about his age were based on the distorted online version of misleading videos to acknowledging later that his lapses were increasingly common after his debate meltdown. All the coverage changed after his debate meltdown, and they realized he was no longer going to be useful to them.

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Daniels recently left Politico to co-host a weekend show on left-wing cable news network MSNBC, a network devoted to criticizing and demonizing President Trump. Media summarizing the event about themselves as follows. The Washington Post writing, quote, without comedy or the president, correspondence dinner presses on.

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From the New York Times, quote, Washington's besieged journalists raise a cocktail glass darkly. ABC News writing, quote, there was no president, there was no comedian. What remained at the White House Correspondents Association's annual dinner on Saturday night were the journalists and the First Amendment.

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NBC anchor Kristen Welker presenting an award for overall excellence in White House coverage to reporter Alex Thompson of Axios. In accepting the award, Mr. Thompson acknowledging the media's failures and delivering a blunt message about the responsibility journalists owe the public.

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Yeah, except we, Alex, didn't really miss the Biden story at all. The entire corporate media intentionally ignored or actively buried or downplayed it. So it's not really a matter of acknowledging errors. How about we start with, quote, what's true there? And that'll do it for your AM Update. I'm Megyn Kelly.

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The New York Times with a massive investigative story over the weekend on the fatal January 29th crash at Ronald Reagan National Airport involving an Army Blackhawk helicopter and an American Airlines regional jet, resulting in the deaths of 67 people.

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The report, based on government documents, audio recordings of the air traffic controllers in the moments leading up to the crash, and expert interviews, outlines a series of missteps leading to the tragedy. We are learning for the first time that the helicopter's mission that night was conducting an annual evaluation of Captain Rebecca Loback, who joined the Army in 2019. Her assignment?

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Simulating an emergency evacuation of senior government officials from Washington after an attack. The Times report marks the first public confirmation that Captain Loback was at the controls of the Black Hawk at the time of the crash. While Captain Loback was the highest-ranking soldier on board, her instructor, Chief Warrant Officer Andrew Lloyd-Eves,

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had logged more than twice as many flight hours. The report describes a series of factors leading up to the crash, including an air traffic control operator potentially stretched too thin, the use of night vision goggles, potentially distorting the pilot's depth perception at critical moments, and the activation of a rarely used runway.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Monday, April 28th, 2025, and this is your AM Update. New reporting on January's crash between a Black Hawk helicopter and a commercial airliner reveals a chain of failures that led to disaster.

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The Times also reporting the Black Hawk was flying above its authorized altitude. Quote, as the helicopter approached the key bridge from which it would fly south along the river, Warrant Officer Eves stated that it was at 300 feet and descending to 200 feet, necessary because the maximum height for this route closer to the airport, had dropped to 200 feet.

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But even as it reached that juncture, Warrant Officer Eves evidently felt obliged to repeat his instruction. The Black Hawk was at 300 feet, he said, and needed to descend. Captain Lobach said she would, but two and a half minutes later, the Black Hawk still was above 200 feet, a dangerously high level. The report also indicating a breakdown in radio communication.

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As the controller attempted to guide them, cockpit recordings suggest key instructions to reroute were cut off. The Black Hawk crew again confirming they had the passenger jet in sight and for the second time requested visual separation. When they asked the first time, they had received approval, meaning they on the helicopter would take responsibility for avoiding the jet.

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From the report, quote, the Black Hawk was 15 seconds away from crossing paths with the jet. Warrant Officer Eves then turned his attention to Captain Lobach. He told her he believed that air traffic control wanted them to turn left toward the East River Bank.

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Turning left would have opened up more space between the helicopter and Flight 5342, which was heading for Runway 33 at an altitude of roughly 300 feet. She did not turn left. The Black Hawk collided with American Airlines Flight 5342 as it was moments away from landing at Reagan National Airport. In the wake of the crash, the FAA banned most helicopter flights near this airport.

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Thousands of mourners gather in Rome to celebrate the funeral of the late Pope Francis.

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Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy in March saying the tragedy must serve as a lesson.

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The National Transportation Safety Board is expected to release its final report on the crash by early 2026. On Friday, the FBI arresting Milwaukee County Circuit Judge Hannah Dugan, charging her with obstruction and concealing an individual to prevent his discovery and arrest. According to the criminal complaint, six ICE task force agents arrived dressed in plain clothes.

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At the courthouse on April 18th, they were armed with an active warrant for 30-year-old Eduardo Flores Ruiz, who was appearing that morning on three domestic abuse charges. Upon learning the task force was in the building, Judge Dugan became visibly angry, initially ordering the agents to leave, then directing them to go and speak with the chief judge.

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One member of the task force, a DEA agent, not initially recognized as part of the group, remained stationed outside of the courtroom while the others were directed to the chief judge's office. Another agent returned to the hallway shortly thereafter.

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While most of the agents were in discussion with court leadership, the complaint alleges Judge Dugan personally escorted Mr. Flores Ruiz and his attorney out of the courtroom through a secured jury door leading into a restricted area. Mr. Flores Ruiz and his attorney then made their way to a different elevator farther from the courtroom and exited the building.

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Secretary Rubio says Ukraine and Russia are closer to peace than ever before following a face-to-face meeting between President Trump and Ukrainian President Zelensky in Rome. At this year's White House Correspondents Dinner, no jokes, no president, no fun of any kind. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update.

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Two DEA agents, not occupied by the chief judge, spotted Mr. Flores Ruiz moving through the hallway and alerted the rest of the team. Agents then scrambled to locate Mr. Flores Ruiz outside the courthouse, and when law enforcement identified themselves, he ran. Agents apprehending Mr. Flores Ruiz after a short chase.

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Judge Dugan's arrest one week later, sending shockwaves through the media, though I don't know why, Rachel Maddow, Lester Holt, and Chris Hayes sounding the alarm.

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CNN legal analyst Ellie Honig taking a more measured approach. You know, the legal one.

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Attorney General Pam Bondi on Friday sending a warning. The Trump administration will not tolerate anyone getting in the way of lawful deportation efforts.

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On Saturday, more than 250,000 mourners flocking to the Vatican, paying respects to the late Pope Francis. The pontiff passing away one week ago at 88 from stroke and heart failure. Foreign delegations from 164 countries attending the funeral held in St.

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Peter's Square, including President Trump and First Lady Melania Trump, French President Emmanuel Macron, Britain's Prince William, and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy. the pontiff lying in state for three days in a simple wooden coffin, resting at floor level, emphasizing Pope Francis' view of himself as a humble shepherd.

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Public viewing of the Pope's body ending on Friday evening with church officials. led by the acting head of the church, Cardinal Camerlengo, Kevin Farrell, performing the traditional sealing of the coffin, a ritual formally closing the period of mourning and preparing the body for burial.

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The funeral mass, celebrated by Cardinal Giovanni Battista Ray, the dean of the College of Cardinals, reflecting Pope Francis' lifelong commitment to humility, marked by simple rituals, solemn prayers, and a stripped-down ceremony by Vatican standards.

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The funeral procession departing St. Peter's Square, winding through the streets of Rome, tens of thousands of mourners lining the route, many cheering and waving at the sight of the Popemobile carrying the late pontiff, others overcome with tears, a mix of celebration and deep sorrow. The nearly four-mile procession ending at the Basilica of St.

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Mary Major, one of Pope Francis' most beloved places of prayer. Breaking with tradition, Pope Francis choosing to be laid to rest there, rather than beneath St. Peter's Basilica, like most of his predecessors. Now the Vatican turning its focus to the conclave that will elect the next pope.

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the highly secretive deliberations among cardinals, the senior leadership of the Catholic Church set to begin within 15 to 20 days of the Pope's death, though the timeline could move faster if all eligible cardinals arrive in Rome and agree to proceed. The only glimpse into the deliberations comes through smoke signals issued twice a day from the Sistine Chapel. Black smoke signaling, no decision.

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White smoke signaling, we have a new Pope. Cardinals meeting this morning in Rome to set the official start date for the conclave. Coming up, President Trump and Ukrainian President Zelensky meet face-to-face at Pope Francis' funeral as the administration enters a critical week for peace talks with Russia. And the corporate media celebrates itself in D.C., Thank you so much for joining us.

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Take a few minutes and visit donewithdebt.com. Speak with one of their strategists. It's free, but listen up. Some of their solutions are time-sensitive, so you gotta move quickly. Go to donewithdebt.com. That's donewithdebt.com. President Trump and Ukrainian President Zelensky on Saturday meeting face to face in St. Peter's Basilica ahead of Pope Francis's funeral.

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The two presidents seated practically knee to knee in chairs set out by church officials specifically for their private conversation. Earlier in the day, President Trump posting on Truth Social, quote, the two sides should now meet at very high levels to finish it off. Most of the major points are agreed to. Stop the bloodshed now.

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We will be wherever is necessary to help facilitate the end to this cruel and senseless war. The backdrop to Saturday's meeting last week, Ukraine rejecting a U.S.-backed peace proposal, criticizing it as too biased toward Russia. In response, Russian President Vladimir Putin launching a wave of missile strikes against Ukrainian civilian targets.

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Shortly after the conversation with President Zelenskyy, President Trump again posting to Truth Social, writing, quote, There was no reason for Putin to be shooting missiles into civilian areas, cities, and towns over the last few days. It makes me think that maybe he doesn't want to stop the war.

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He's just tapping me along and has to be dealt with differently through banking or secondary sanctions. Too many people are dying. Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Sunday telling NBC the U.S.-led peace effort between Ukraine and Russia has made real progress, but warning that the coming week will be critical.

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The secretary adding that while both sides are closer to a deal than at any time in the past three years, the final steps remain the hardest. Mr. Rubio making clear the U.S. cannot continue pouring time and resources into the negotiations indefinitely and will reassess its involvement if real progress is not made in the days ahead.

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On Saturday in Washington, D.C., the White House Correspondents Association holding its annual fundraising dinner, striking a noticeably more somber tone this year. Per tradition, the evening usually features remarks from the president and a comedian roasting both the administration and the press.

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But this year, comedian Amber Ruffin's set was canceled after backlash over comments she made referring to members of the Trump administration as murderers. President Trump and White House Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt both declining their invitations, just as President Trump did in his first term.

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Also notably absent, the usual roster of A-list celebrities, a sharp contrast from years past when personalities like Bradley Cooper and Scarlett Johansson filled the room. President of the association, Eugene Daniels, choosing to deliver the keynote speech instead.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and happy first Monday of the second Trump presidency. Yes, we had last Monday, but we only had half the day. This is the first full Monday of the Trump presidency, part two.

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We, of course, always thought that McConnell, Murkowski, and Collins, and then maybe Ernst were the ones to look at. And we were inching closer to the vote, and people thought that maybe those three would come on board, and maybe just McConnell would come on board as it happened. McConnell said no to Pete with a statement ripping him. Collins and Murkowski, same. And Ernst made all the difference.

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You know what? The idea of an investigation is really interesting because just today it hit that among those Joe Biden pardoned with his massive, you know, wand, wave of a wand, was a killer of two people in Connecticut, a mother and child. And

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The Dick Blumenthal, the Democrat senator from Connecticut, is out there saying that this was a massive mistake, that he doesn't believe Biden intended to do this, that this person, this killer was represented by the ACLU to Biden to be a nonviolent drug offender. And that's why he got lumped in.

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And there are already some on X calling for an investigation into how this and all the other pardons were made and whether Joe Biden was compass mentis in in order to grant the clemency and the pardons that he granted and whether some of these things can be undone, whether whether even the president himself intended to actually allow some of these people out of jail.

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It's so disturbing. I, it's like, I don't, I have no idea whether Joe Biden knew what he was doing. Uh, but that is something we should be assured of because like, it's one thing to do a controversial pardon. It's quite another to have the ACLU sneak one past, uh, incompetent president. Um, his, yeah, this is, this is on, on X right now. And, uh, hold on a second.

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And then J.D. Vance cast the deciding vote because it was 50-50. President Trump had a public standoff with the country of Colombia, not the university. One is spelled with two O's. The country has two O's, Colombia. And that had the left freaking out, freaking out that he had caused a catastrophe for the United States when it comes to our coffee and our flowers.

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I'm just trying to pull up the exact. Yeah. reporting on this. Relatives of an eight-year-old boy and his mother who were murdered by a Connecticut drug gang are outraged that a man convicted in the killings was one of nearly 2,500 people whose drug-related prison sentences were commuted by former President Joe Biden in his last days in office.

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Adrian Peeler served a 20-year state prison sentence for murder conspiracy in the 1999 shootings of Leroy B.J. Brown and his mother, Karen Clark in Bridgeport, killings that shocked the city and led to improvements in state witness protection. Prosecutors said Brown and his mother were assassinated to prevent the child from testifying in another murder case.

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In December 2021, Peeler finished a state sentence but began serving a 15 year term in federal prison for dealing large amounts of crack cocaine. The federal sentence would have kept him behind bars until 2033. He is now set to be released in July.

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And this is the one that Blumenthal, Connecticut Democrat, who was the state's attorney general when Brown and his mother were killed, said someone dropped the ball, quote unquote. In Peeler's clemency, he and other political leaders in Connecticut, including the Bridgeport mayor, criticized the commutation. This really was a vicious murder that changed our laws, said Blumenthal.

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It also highlights how we need to take a look at the pardon system to see how it can be improved. Well, why don't we first take a look to see whether it was even intended by this outgoing president? So that's that's one thing I. Forgive me for playing a soundbite to Steve Bannon of Selena Gomez, but she's got a lot of power. She's very popular with a large segment of the population.

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And she just posted this video and then deleted it after her fans went nuts on her. But this is what we're getting.

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Okay, Steve, she's got 422 million followers on Instagram and indeed she's an actress.

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These morons not thinking about like the children who are getting hurt by all these illegals. We're supposed to worry about the fact that we import a lot of flowers from Colombia. Thanks, Ana Navarro. I'll take the children's safety just the same. Before, within an hour, he got exactly what he wanted, and the president of Colombia, who's got some very interesting love interests, backed down.

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Yeah, she didn't look at the polls, which have between 55 and 60 percent of all of America completely on board with deporting all illegals, including the Democrats. The Democrats are now majority in favor of deporting all illegals, never mind the ones who have committed crimes, which is where Homan's starting. But as you point out, not where he's going to end.

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Homan with Martha Raddatz discussed some of this. Take a listen to SOT19.

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Steve, what's interesting about Homan and to some extent now to J.D. Vance and the other people speaking for the administration is to me, it seems like they're finally getting it. It's so joyful for somebody like me to sit here and watch somebody who actually knows the facts and is not afraid to argue what's real. Give it right back to these Sunday news anchors.

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It's so amazing. We've never seen this before where they don't give one inch. They don't need to be like, they don't need the invitation to the jury. They'll have their own parties. They don't need to go to these and you just never see it.

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Meantime, ICE has been fully activated, and they're doing their thing bit by bit, day by day. And then there was the thing of beauty from Vice President J.D. Vance on CBS News yesterday morning, sparring with Margaret Brennan and launching a new meme that I think is going to last for years. I don't really care, Margaret. I don't really care, Margaret.

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My entire history in the media, they go on these Sunday shows, they do a little ass kissing, and then they kind of pivot off to make their final point as like their parting shot of like, well, but we kind of believe this after they totally seed the main points the anchor is raising in part one of his or her argument. So it's

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Great to see somebody just fight and completely disavow the premise of the question. Here's the longer version of J.D. Vance with Margaret Brennan. I am convinced like J.D. 's very smart to go on with Margaret Brennan because some people said, why is he going to CBS? It's the enemy. Look what they did to him in the vice presidential debate.

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And I thought, no, he's very smart because she's adversarial. She's going to try to punch him. And she's nowhere near his intellectual equal. So he knows he can just slice and dice her with ease and do it as behaving as a gentleman, but leave everybody with the same impression, which is she is no match for him. Her arguments are no match for his. Here's thought 13.

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Who cares? Like this guy who he was referencing, his name is 27 year old Nashar Nasir Ahmad Tahedi. And per court documents, he planned to liquidate his assets, repatriate his family to Afghanistan, purchase assault rifles and stage a violent attack on election day. He entered the U.S. on a special immigrant visa on September 9th, 2021, days after Biden's catastrophic U.S.

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withdrawal from Afghanistan. Who cares? Who that had a family member die in this planned violent attack on election day would care when he was radicalized. Why was he here? It wasn't lawful. He needed to go. He wasn't vetted. That's the point that he was making. And, you know, you times that by 20 million.

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So here's another piece, because the birthright citizenship has made a lot of, has ruffled a lot of feathers, even on the Republican side, because Trump, notwithstanding what's written in the Constitution, is saying he's getting rid of it. And there is a legal argument to be made there.

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Trust me, I researched it in depth before I sat with Trump in September of 23, because I went into it saying this is a preposterous proposal. It's in the Constitution. You can't withdraw it. And the more I looked at it, the more I realized very smart legal scholars actually have made the credible argument that you actually the Constitution is not as clear as its defenders argue.

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And you can get rid of birthright citizenship. It's because of this clause that means you have to be born in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. And there's a question there. Anyway, the media will not allow for any of that possibility, nuance or other legal arguments. Margaret Brennan brought that up, too, with J.D. Vance. And here's how that went.

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By the way, it wasn't founded by illegal immigrants, and we don't have to keep the door open to more and more criminals because of what happened 250 years ago, Steve. It's amazing. Is that stupidity on her part or just liberal bias?

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I don't really care, Margaret, either. In just a bit, we're going to be joined by Batya Angar Sargan. But we begin today with Steve Bannon, host of Bannon's War Room. There is a real and growing threat to your home and your equity, and it's called title fraud. Here's how it works. Criminals can forge a single document, file it with a recorder, and just like that, your home's title is stolen.

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on the debanking, just to let people know. So yeah, Brian Moynihan goes out there at Davos and says, oh no, we don't debank anybody, Bank of America. And JP Morgan also says, oh no, we issued a statement, we don't debank anybody. Just so you know,

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In 2024, the Montana attorney general joined a coalition of 15 attorneys general in demanding action from Bank of America to correct the company's debanking policies and discriminatory behavior toward conservatives and religious Americans. They allege in this lawsuit, the bank denied services to gun manufacturers, fossil fuel production, producers, contractors for U.S.

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Immigration and Customs Enforcement. It also canceled the accounts of Christian ministry groups for operating, quote, a business type we have chosen not to serve. Similar allegations against Wells Fargo. We could go down the list.

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A geo group, a private prison operator said it was debunked by Bank of America and JP Morgan after it faced protests from left-leaning groups over the work it does for ICE. Melania Trump said in her book she was debunked and that son Barron was denied a bank account. She didn't name the bank.

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Uh, 30 tech entrepreneurs said they've been debanked in the last four years, according to Mark Andreessen, uh, who came on the record at PayPal and what they did to conservative. And like the list is very long for them. These guys to now claim they've never been debanking conservatives is a lie. It is a lie. It's belied by this long history and what's alleged in these lawsuits.

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So that's the debanking thing. Let's, I do want to talk about California, but before we go there, let's stay on immigration and do Columbia because what happened with Columbia this weekend was a thing of beauty. It And all while Trump was on the golf course, the guy was was hitting under par while he was rubbing the president of Colombia's nose in the crap storm. He tried to dump on us.

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So they sent two hundred thousand. It's an estimated two hundred thousand illegals in this country from Colombia. As Trump points out, these are not good guys. The face tattoo does not suggest in Trump's words, you're going to be president of a bank when you get here. And. We get two planes worth of them, at least, and this is only one weekend, and send them back down there.

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And this guy has the nerve to not accept his own bad hombres. Yes, they're his countrymen, though. They shouldn't be our problem. And Trump, within about two minutes, says, that's how you want to play? We're going to slap a 25% tariff. on all of your goods. And in a week, it's going to go up to 50. And we're disassociating ties with all of your embassy officials here.

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And it's going to get more and more painful as the days go on. And you have the leftist meltdown. I think we have some of that. Do we not, Debbie? Where you've got... Oh, it's just it's just on paper. But you've got AOC and many others saying, oh, my God, this is what's going to happen. And AOC was saying the coffee, the coffee prices are just about to go up 25 percent.

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A tariff on them is a tariff on Americans. And then the coffee here will be up 50 percent. You have Ana Navarro saying we have poured a lot of our flowers from Colombia. There goes Valentine's Day within I think it was 60, maybe 90 minutes total. Complete reversal. The president of Columbia fell on his sword. Not only did he say, we'll take them.

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He said, I'm going to send my presidential plane to go pick them up. And it was a complete victory before Trump had gotten to the next hole, Steve. This is how it's done. And I don't even think the leftist can argue that he did anything wrong here. What do you make of it?

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Buckle up because if every weekend is going to be like the one we just had, we're going to need a four-hour show. Not not even kidding. Somebody just posted on X that famous video of Lucy and Ethel on the I Love Lucy show, like trying to get, you know, that that assembly line full of like the the food. And they were trying to like decorate the food or like they fell behind.

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that they're really enjoying it. The epilogue to the Trump versus Columbia president story is as follows. I love it. So Trump won. The guy completely waved the white flag and sent the presidential plane, he said, for these illegals. Then, feeling humiliated, that's clear, he decides to post the following bizarre statement on X. Trump, this is after he already lost the fight.

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Trump, I don't really like traveling to the U.S. It's a bit boring. I like going to the black neighborhoods of Washington where I saw an entire fight in the U.S. Capitol between blacks and Latinos with barricades, which seemed like nonsense to me because they should join together. I don't like your oil, Trump. You're going to wipe out the human species because of greed.

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I am informed that you impose a 50% tariff on the fruits of our human labor to enter the United States, and I do the same. Okay, you already gave it up, sir. But I love this, Steve, because what he's really doing here is playing the victim. He's trying to act tough while also playing the victim. Poor me, you're gonna hurt my people with this tariff and you've got problems of your own there.

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Meanwhile, it's like, You sent 200,000 criminals to our country. We're serving you, so far, two plane loads back. We are the victims. We're the victims here. Finally acting like we're standing up for our own best interests. That's what's so invigorating about it. You have a president who, in between golf holes, doesn't need 50,000 State Department meetings, you know,

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group papers, and then Trump tweeted out this. Look at this. Trump posted this picture of himself on Truth Social with the background sign that reads F-A-F-O, F around and find out, and him wearing like an Elliot Ness, like FBI hat. Steve.

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So, I mean, it's been quite the whirlwind first seven days. It's hard to even ask you this, but what stands out to you?

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I got to ask you quickly about both Tulsi and RFKJ getting their confirmation hearings this week. Tulsi's will happen in front of us first, and then they'll go behind closed doors to do the classified cross-examination. Uh, so all the stuff that we're not allowed to hear. And then RFKJ, he starts on Wednesday. We expect it to continue over into Thursday.

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I've heard reports that both of those are quote, potentially in trouble, uh, Um, I'm not sure that must means with Republicans because they have the power to, to up or down it. What are you hearing about both of them?

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I got 30 seconds left. Does she, do you think she makes it through?

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Okay. Oh, this is like, we do have to buckle up this week because a lot is going down and, uh, you know, these nominees are in there fighting for all of us and fighting for themselves in the country. Not everybody's got the same agenda. Steve Bannon. Thank you. It's great to talk to you.

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We'll do California with Batya when she comes on because you have got to see the exchanges between Trump and LA Mayor Karen Bass, plus this other Democrat who tried to take him on. It was absolutely epic. There's so much news. Stay with us. We'll be right back. These days, personal safety is not something that can be left to chance.

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Batya, great to have you. I'm just going to pick up on a couple of stories that I touched on with Steve, but we didn't get to fully get into because with him, you know, it's truly like from a fire hose. He's got so much information on so many topics. So we bang through them. Going back to the Chicago lie about ICE.

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busting up schools and dragging kids out and these teachers trying to paint themselves in sanctimony like, I stood up, I didn't allow it. Meanwhile, it was the Secret Service trying to track down somebody who threatened a government official, which has happened under every administration.

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You have things like, take a listen to SOT24, which is a transgender Chicago high school teacher with some tough talk for ICE.

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okay, my money's on Tom Homan, madam, sir, whatever we have there. This is right. But it's like, it's interesting to me about you. Cause this is what we're going to get. We're going to get, I'll just, let me show you one more. Okay. This is an unhidden Chicago teacher having a similar, like you bring it, you bring it girl.

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Meanwhile, these are like heavy set pudgy little, in that guy's case, wig wearing, not tough guys trying to be like,

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It's like, could you please just have a seat? Have a seat. Here's the second person.

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Okay. I can see your manifesto has gotten you far in life. This is the same group of teachers. May I remind you about you that during the COVID pandemic made their case that they could not possibly return to school to teach the children they allegedly love so much. And the way they wanted to express it was through my very favorite video of all time, interpretive dance. Here it is.

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And just for added perfection, just added perfection. This is just the same way you have with like J-Lo and others who are campaigning for Kamala and Kamala herself. Every once in a while, there's like... This teacher who's sounding just like you or I do starts to slip into her.

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The Chicago – situation was pretty stunning and maybe a preview of how these ICE raids are going to go, where they're being lied about. I mean, that's what happened this weekend in Chicago, where we had Chicago public schools call a press conference claiming that ICE showed up at an elementary school. We have some of that. Let's let's watch.

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I have a plan. Could you just the acting on display today? It's a lot. I guess we better buckle up and get used to it. Your thoughts.

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So true. I showed this to Steve. I don't know if you've seen it, but Selena Gomez is a great example of it. 422 followers on Instagram, 422 million followers on Instagram. And first of all, she's the one who starred in that Emilia Perez, which is up for 13 Academy Awards. who's pushing the trans nonsense on Americans and American youth.

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I mean, I wonder if she's got a thought for what happens to American youth who gets pushed into this when really all they had was like some family dysfunction and absolutely no gender confusion, but they get caught in this cult that has taken over, especially with young girls. Where's her empathy for them? It's not present. She just wants to be part of the people who push it. But she, whatever.

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So she decides to go on Instagram and... cry tears about, oh my God, all the illegal children, I guess, who might be subject to deportation. Here it is.

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She deleted it after her fans taught her that the majority of the country stands behind these policies, but I'm sure she was shocked to get any blowback whatsoever.

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Okay, so good for you. Cloaking herself in sanctimony. We are not going to cooperate. We're going to protect the children. You had the Chicago Tribune reporting that ICE showed up at this school at 11.15 a.m. The immigration action appears to be the first at a Chicago school after Trump took office.

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She's unwell. Obviously, this is an unwell person. There's been some stories about that kind of thing. And by the way, anybody, anybody who takes their phone, works up the tears, and posts a video of themselves crying into their phone is sick. That's a sick person. Tears happen. They tend to happen privately. If they happen publicly, I think you should quickly move on and recover.

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I know I have hundreds of millions, but I hate this country. We you mentioned the crazy liberal media and J.D. Vance sat down with Margaret Brennan at CBS News, among other many failed avenues of attack that led to I don't care, Margaret, the now famous line by J.D. Vance. They had this attack on why we haven't solved all the economic problems of the country in Trump's first five days.

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I like I'm I have to be honest. I'm shocked at the level of stupidity that is masquerading as some tough anchor on these network Sunday shows. This is what a pathetic attempted takedown. So prices aren't going to come down. Where's the executive order that's going to kill Joe Biden's inflation? Aha. Got you there. This is I'm embarrassed for her.

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It makes me so sad, said Eva Chavez, a 37-year-old who lives in the neighborhood and came out after she heard about it. Immigration groups arrived. Parents panicked. Some took their kids out of the school. Illinois Governor J.B. Pritzker spread the lie on X, saying the first reports of raids in Chicago are at an elementary school targeting children, separating families.

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Oh, that's so well said. It's so true. When we went back at one point and pulled the home that Martha Raddatz lives in, and it is this palatial estate right outside of Washington, D.C., it's spectacular. I guarantee Margaret Brennan, same. They make millions of dollars and apparently have no relatives who are working class or connected with the working class because they seem to have lost all

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all connection to regular people who don't live like that and who actually do live paycheck to paycheck as the vast majority of Americans do. We are going to talk about California, but I saw you tweeting about North Carolina.

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And before Trump went out to California, he did what Joe Biden forgot to do, which is show some empathy and caring for the victims of Hurricane Helene still suffering in North Carolina, where he swung by with a spectacular first lady. and decided to shine a spotlight on the people who still have not recovered and cannot get payments from insurers out there.

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It just the only problem is it wasn't true. Turns out that it was Secret Service investigating a threat. Bill Malusion of Fox reporting that Chicago public schools falsely claimed they block ICE officers from entering a school. The narrative took off. Apparently nobody bothered to check with DHS or ICE, both of which denied the claim. Turns out it was Secret Service agents.

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He actually had people come to the microphone and talk about their experience with these insurance companies. Here's a little bit of that in stop three.

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It's amazing, Batya, because Trump easily could have gotten all that information from his team. There was a reason he was having these people come up to the microphone and tell their stories personally. And, you know, I look at these folks and I see a ton of folks just like those in the neighborhoods that I grew up in. and that I see when I go back home even now.

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You know, people who are not highfalutin, they're not fancy, you know, they got the baseball cap on and the old guy with the long gray hair and the one guy holding his little daughter or son couldn't tell the gender of the kid he was bouncing as he was trying to tell his story. And this is salt of the earth America. And Trump does not have to inject himself into this neighborhood at all.

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He is trying to call attention to the plight of these Americans who are still suffering, even though with all due respect to our friends in California, they're not from the Pacific palisades or Malibu.

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The Secret Service leader identified themselves or at the time identified themselves and left business cards. They were looking for a student who made a threat to a government official and And then Chicago Public Schools admitted it, releasing a long statement saying it was just a it was a misunderstanding. Misunderstanding, Steve. I don't know. I mean, the media ran with it.

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It is extraordinary. It's extraordinary to see this happening, especially between a Republican and the working class of America, which is traditionally not the group that would run in to vote for a Republican. My mom is a lifetime nurse. Now she's a retired nurse who spent her career at the VA. And after my dad died, you know, long time ago, 1985, she married a plumber.

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Um, he, his kids became a police officer and a nurse, right? This is not like this, not like a rich family. And for the first time, my mom sounds like a Republican. My mom, I hope she doesn't mind me revealing my mom voted for Trump. And it's not because of me. My mom has voted Democrat her entire life. She's 83 because of that, Batya, because she's picking up what he's putting down.

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Like she sees what he's doing. She feels heard by him. She's living. Yes, of course I help her, but she like all pride people, prideful people in their eighties does not want my money. She wants to live on her retirement. You know, she earned it and all that. And she sees what's happening with the inflation and her, the money. And so like, that's what

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caused her to open her mind to Trump after a lifetime of being told by my Nana, who passed in 2016 at 101, Republicans are for rich people. And they're starting to see with Trump, that's no longer true.

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The governor ran with it. They couldn't get to cameras fast enough. And it was all a lie.

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They just started eating all the candies, whatever they were. That's how we all feel. And it's great. It's great. We have an alive president and he's actually doing stuff on behalf of the country. This is what it's like. Who knew? It's been so long.

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So, so good. And unlike the left, President Trump's party does include the well-off. He did go then to the Pacific Palisades and the Malibu and, and work hard to try to figure out how to help those people too. Unlike the left, which demonizes one side or the other, right?

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It's either like a bunch of country bumpkin losers who just live in flyover country and are too dumb to understand what's best for them. or the rich don't pay their fair share and we need more from them like the AOCs. Trump is finding a way to just bring everyone together.

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The only people not in his coalition are the people who refuse to be in it because of their far left woke ideology that won't let them see what's what's. What he's offering, right? What's happening right now in the country? Not everybody felt about Trump's visit to North Carolina the way we did. Not everybody was inspired by what he did this past week.

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One of the things he said was he's got questions about whether FEMA should continue as an ongoing concern. And or whether states should be encouraged to save and somehow find a way to address disaster management on a more local level. And here is how was it? Margaret Brennan responding to that. Yeah. Back to Margaret. She's the star of our show today. Stop 14.

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But they're too dumb and too poor, Mr. Vice President, to fend for themselves.

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There you've got the Mississippi governor Tate Reeves coming out on X saying hilarious elitism by Margaret Brennan and CBS news claiming that Mississippians know less about emergency management than DC bureaucrats all because her favorite Democrats in California and North Carolina have failed their constituents. Very interesting. I mean, she just can't trust me.

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I've worked in the mainstream media. She can't fathom. that these yokels down in places like Mississippi could ever help themselves. That's how she sees them. That's honestly, I guarantee you, that's how she sees them. And she thinks that's what makes her a good person.

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She thinks like her inability to see them as capable of managing money, of managing an emergency is what makes her their benevolent saint, right? She's going to pressure J.D. Vance to keep the FEMA federal bureaucrats in charge of their wellness because they're too dumb to do it themselves. It's like it's dripping out of her pores.

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All right, let's meander westward like Trump did out to California. And may I just say about the trip out west by the president and the first lady, number one, We have entered the dawn of a hot first lady, and we deserve this. We deserve an amazingly gorgeous first lady who's bringing style back to the job.

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Look at her in her green puffy coat, her tight jeans, her boots, her black beanie, and her aviators with their perfect lipstick and hair. Trump, here he is on the helicopter, but when he is on Air Force One, he is using the big boy steps. We've seen the return of a hot first lady and the return of the big boy steps to Air Force One, Batya, and this is the first couple we deserve.

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So they travel out west in style like grownups. And by the way, Melania Trump was seen speaking to victims – I can't remember whether it was North Carolina or California – of one of those two tragedies in her native tongue in two different foreign languages. She's reportedly fluent in six foreign languages, but the New York Times dismissed her as a mannequin.

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Anyway, they go out there and Trump picks a fight with mayor Karen Bass, which was absolutely beautiful. This soundbites a little long, but watch it play out. They're arguing over how long it's going to take to clean up the fire damage in places like the Pacific Palisades.

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So just so people can get back on their properties and get what might still be there, which there is in some cases, some debris that that's salvageable, see the damage, you know, survey, what's left so they can figure out their next move. None of that's being allowed. Watch.

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Let me tell you something, Badia. My dear friend whose house burned down in the Pacific Palisades, she's my one woke friend, but she's sane. I adore her. She wanted to get back into her house. You know why? Because they have these little heart rocks that she and her kids have been collecting since the kids were babies.

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You know, whatever place they went, they'd get the little, if they find a rock that looks like a heart, they collected it and they had it in a jar and it was on top of the mantle at the fireplace. And they all really thought it could still be there. Like that's one thing that might not have burned and it would give the girl something to have. And nope, no, no, you can't get anywhere.

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Well, you know what? She scaled a wall and she got in in a full hazmat outfit, but she managed to do it. And she had to countermand the orders. They were not letting her in. She just did it. And it's because of Karen Bass and this nonsense. You can't get in. There's a video in the Daily Mail today of a guy saying, I just want to drive by.

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And you've got the soldiers or whoever's patrolling the area saying, we're not allowed. LAPD is not allowing us to let anybody in there. There's Trump with a hefty dose of common sense saying, Just let them in. A week is too long. Some of the stuff will spoil if it managed to survive. And the 18 months that they were arguing over, that's on camera, too. It is.

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I'll just show you this soundbite quickly. The L.A. director of public works, Mark Pestrella, told Karen Bass and council members within the past week that it's going to take 18 months to clear the debris. Now she sits there at that meeting with Trump and says it's not true that her director of public works says it is. Here it is.

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We heard it clearly, two years until these people get their property back. What do you think?

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Yes, they were there and she salvaged them. But they were about to be carted away, I guess, within two years time by Karen Bass and, you know, her two year plan to, you know, clear the area. And it's like, look, if people want to go there and immerse themselves in toxins to try to salvage what they can, that's up to them. Why is that not up? It's like big brother. If tries to control everything.

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They can do what my friend did, which is actually put on like a safety suit and a mask and risk it if it's really important to them. But big sister thinks she knows better. And the whole town is saying two years before you get your property back.

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There is somebody on X named Eric Matheny who tweeted out the following and I loved it. I wrote it down. Trump is governing like a man who has been shot, indicted, investigated and impeached and has zero fucks left to give. It's glorious. That's exactly right. He's saying it all.

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So then, Batya, he gets into a back and forth with this California lawmaker named Brad Sherman, a Dem, who'd been giving him a hard time because Trump said, you know what? We want to give you federal relief, but I want two conditions met before you get it.

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And that is, number one, allow the water to flow to Southern California, like I've been saying for years, so we can be ensured that this isn't going to happen again. And number two, you should require voter ID in this state where they seem to have an allergy to voter ID. So he's getting all this blowback, like how can you condition the aid on voter ID? It's not fair.

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And Brad gave him some guff about that earlier in the meeting. And then this exchange happens where Trump had thoughts for Brad on the insurance situation out in California, SOT7.

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Back to Brad. But yeah, we keep hearing that, the party of common sense. And Batya... For me, that really resonates because that's kind of how I've seen myself in media for a while. I'm not F you in your bigoted charges. I don't want boys in girls' sports. That makes me commonsensical. That's what that makes me, right?

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Trump's leaning into this, and he's 100% right, which is why he's got majority support on the immigration policies, on the trans policies. Who the hell would disagree with, we need water to fight fires, right?

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Yeah, get out. I have to take a break. But quick, quick soundbite on Trump and his sense of humor hit the happy warrior. I saw something this weekend you almost never see. Donald Trump laughing. He smiles a lot. He's very generous with a smile, but he almost never laughs. It's actually kind of interesting.

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I noticed it during the campaign when that hyena was on the other side with her very strange laugh at everything, the cackle, so bad that they had to reel it in, selling her never laugh. Trump just naturally he's not a laugher. He's a more serious guy. He's got a sense of humor, but he's just not like prone to laughter. Well, it happened and it actually was funny.

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He was doing a bit on how he's returning phone calls of world leaders like that or calling or picking up the phone when they call. Unlike Joe Biden and all these leaders are shocked that they've gotten him on the phone. Watch.

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He's enjoying himself. All right, more with Bhatia right after this. Don't go away. The IRS is the largest collection agency in the world, and it just stepped up enforcement for 2025. If you owe back taxes or have unfiled returns, don't wait for the IRS to come to you. Simply avoiding your tax troubles is the worst thing you can do.

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We kind of forgot what it's like to have somebody actually advocating for us, treating us like we are the superpower that we are not getting pushed around by these lesser countries that think they can dump all their criminal illegals in America and not have us push back. It's a thing of beauty. Okay, so let me just start further back before we get to that.

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It was always shocking to see any celebrities come on Team Red. We saw Vince Vaughn at the Trump Ball. We had Snoop Dogg perform at the Crypto Ball. And Jewel, the singer, performed at the RFKJ Maha Ball. And she's already sorry she did it. Look what she just posted.

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She's sorry. Well, they apology not accepted her mentions. Her responses are all like F you fascist thoughts.

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I really hope Jules' followers who supported her, you know, performing at the RFKJ thing are speaking out as well, because there are a lot bigger numbers on this side than they are on the other. And so she really, I mean, this is no time to pander to your leftist base. Batya, a pleasure. Thank you so much for being here. Well, we have so much this week. We've got Tulsi. We've got RFKJ hearings.

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As we pointed out with Steve, we got Kash Patel. Buckle up, folks. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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Oh, boy, that'll rattle some cages. Here's Tom Holman explaining why it very well may be that we have to go into these so-called sensitive areas that Joe Biden deemed off limits. Here he is. Take a listen.

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This is what we're going to get, Steve. As you well know, the media is going to try to paint these MS-13, these Trend Agua members as though they're little Boy Scouts that mean old Tom Homan is just harassing. And parents need to run down to their local school district and grab their child if he's Latino.

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Pete Hegseth is officially now our defense secretary. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, good for him. Congratulations and boo effing hoo for all of his detractors who tried to stop it. Senator Mitch McConnell opened his latest front in his war with MAGA by not voting for Pete. Did not see that coming.

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I thought the same. I was like, why all the money that we donate every Sunday when we go to mass that you think is helping the poor, that you think is helping the underprivileged, it's going to the what? The hundreds of millions that the Catholic Church has been raking in trying to get these illegals into the country and settle down?

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Yeah, no, I mean, it's amazing just listening to, you know, what's happening here. Even, okay, it was last week, the Pope said Trump's plans to deport illegal immigrants would be, quote, a disgrace, that it would be a disgrace. I'm sorry, but this Pope, he doesn't speak for millions of Catholics. He really doesn't. I know technically he does, but he doesn't speak for me.

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He doesn't speak for most conservatives in America who really, we've had about enough of his far left social agenda. Um, Tom Holman back to him. He was asked about the Pope's comments and as usual, hit it out of the park. Watch.

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You know, Steve, last week we were critical of that Episcopalian minister who was lecturing to Trump and J.D. Vance when they did her to the courtesy of going by National Cathedral. The Pope's no better.

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I mean, that the Catholic Church is doing exactly what that Episcopal minister did, trying to lecture Trump to be more humane when it comes to immigration policy without any acknowledgement of the rape trees and the fentanyl and the murders that are happening to Americans because of it.

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So, uh, You escalated up the ranks, it seems to me, pretty quickly. You got moved from thing to thing, challenge to challenge, some of which were a surprise to you, but it didn't sound like you had a lot of failures as you were making your name. Tons. You did?

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How did you do in the military setting? Because I would think with your background, you weren't exactly big on rules.

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Yeah. So how'd you, I mean, that, that's gotta be a problem in basic training.

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Yeah. I feel like at this point in life, is it hard to upset you? You've been through so much military wise and childhood wise.

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Very long. Okay. So let's go back. So then you, we enter over to the army. They take you, you're going through basic training. People are getting yelled at and you're enjoying that. Yeah. And what's the plan? Just like, see what they do with you.

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Now from there you joined special forces. How long did that take?

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So especially when you grew up in Chicago, right? Yeah. Yeah. For once. Yes.

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Can you talk about that? Cause as a civilian, you hear special forces and you think, Oh, it's cool. Something cool is happening. Like he knows shit. Like he's done stuff.

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What do you mean you thought it would put you in charge of your own death?

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And then you have the right background for this, too, though.

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When I say that, when you hear that intro read, given all the time that you spent serving the country, what's the one that you focus on? That's the one thing that really kind of defined the service in my mind.

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Oh, no. Some of those guys might be listening to this right now.

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So you, you made it though. You got selected. So you get selected to then train into special forces.

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So that was you in special forces trying to make it on the Delta force, which is yet another sort of next elite level.

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This, I mean, maybe they knew even before Bin Laden knew where you were going to wind up, but that was perfect training for what ultimately would be asked of you.

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Okay. So you're doing your training, what, still down in Savannah?

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So what happened on 9-11? What was your reaction to that day?

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You knew, but unlike the rest of us, you actually were going to have to answer the call. I mean, does that... is that exciting? Is it nerve wracking? Is it everything?

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I know what you mean, but it's harder to do than actually, you know, it sounds.

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You know, people get stuck. They get stuck in sort of obsessive thinking, especially if their life might be on the line.

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So how do you rejigger that if that's you and you get stuck on something?

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So what was the first word you had that you were getting deployed and to where?

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All right. Can you tell us about that? Tell us what was that? How did that just describe you? Because I've heard you talk about it, Sean Ryan. It sounds, I mean, like you were looking for Bin Laden.

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Was that deployment, that moment when you showed up in Tora Bora the first time, you ever killed a man?

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Like, well, how does that, does that affect you at all as a, you know, as a man, or is it just, no, I'm a soldier.

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So in 10 days you managed to route out this, this mountain area that nobody else had gotten to the Russians included. And then what?

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Is this the one where he was, is this a different letter from the one that the morons were circulating on TikTok about a year and a half ago saying, this is amazing. He's so smart. He's got such good reasons for attacking us. I don't know.

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I thought everyone makes mistakes. When I read your bio, I thought the opposite because you had a very rough childhood and I thought it made him one tough SOB.

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You really wouldn't, you should stay off the internet and you should not get to know Gen Z. I don't think you'll be happy.

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Well, so what happened? Cause you, you didn't find bin Laden there, but you found all of his henchmen.

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And then are you like done? Because bin Laden is still out there.

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So you're pretty cynical about our military industrial complex.

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Well, I mean, it definitely was at the end, but we're, are you talking about right here right now when you're trying to, you don't think that the military brass wanted you to find him. They wanted it to go on and on.

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And you know, capable of doing what needed to be done in like the darkest days of Iraq and Afghanistan.

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But, I mean, are you talking about, like I say, the military-industrial complex, like one of these big contractors? Or are you talking about us, us-us?

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You actually have a shot at it right now with this administration.

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Well, that's, I mean, it's unfortunately, and I, and totally understandably, so many of our veterans are asking these questions now, including Sean, you know, and talk to him at length about his questions about who are the good guys.

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And when we found him in 2010, in my exact time, it was, it was 20, I think 11. I was on maternity leave with my daughter.

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So is that just your gut having been in the army for 20 years or? Hell yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's like, that's the worst possible, like take on our commander in chief and what they might do. Like in danger, continue a war where guys are going to kill their limbs, blown off. What to improve your, so you can get the election under your belt. It's just so.

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Well, if I had been over there and seeing my guys blown up, I think I'd be very angry if I believed this. I'd be very fucking pissed off. Are you angry believing this?

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I know, but either you feel it or you don't. I look at it this way.

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You haven't been through therapy. This is just your own thinking. I don't go to therapy.

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I try. That's life therapy right there. I don't know. Somehow you managed to get a really clear view on all of this, but so many guys I've talked to them come back

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Is it the, in part, like the adrenaline rush that you miss? Like it's tough to recreate that in civilian life.

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And was that your solo? Mm-hmm. How did you wind up solo in Tora Bora?

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Okay. I heard that you mentioned the sunshine ride. I was getting Pop-Tarts. So I need to clarify this. You wanted the Pop-Tarts and there was something else. What was the other thing? Beef jerky? Beef jerky. Okay. You needed this. So you convinced them to send you on some mission back to like the chow hall to get the stuff?

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Okay. Then I got lost. What happened? Like you, you never went back with the pop tarts and the beef jerky. I did weeks later, but it seemed like you got sucked into this unit that had the good food.

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As we do every Memorial Day, we are bringing you the story of a remarkable veteran and what a story this vet has. Joining me today is retired U.S. Army Special Operations Sergeant Major John McPhee, a.k.a. the Sheriff of Baghdad.

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How did your parents settle in a neighborhood where you would wind up being the only white kid in class?

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Wow. And you, this is what kind of you wanted to do anyway, be on your own, make your own decisions.

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So what was the mission? Why did you have to go out by yourself? Why couldn't you have others?

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So then how long is this solo mission back through Tora Bora?

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Why are you going back there when we already blew up the people?

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So I know that you were very badly bullied on the bus every day. I heard you telling our pal Sean Ryan about that. I mean, it was every day they beat you up.

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So do they tell you where you're going and then it's just up to you to get yourself there?

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Like, did they show you that spot on the map? And you're like, I got to figure this out.

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All right. So they, they're like, we believe we know where he is.

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And it's like, Oh, they're bad guys trying to kill you everywhere.

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Well, like an American though, right? They knew you were an American.

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So you would act like a local and like a nutcase and they'd let you walk right by all the time. What would acting like a nutcase look like?

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I mean, it must have been bad for the South Side of Chicago school system to get you a cab every day to school.

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Oh, so he knew like, it's not unusual to be armed there, even if you're not. Everybody.

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And that's, that was the mission. Not don't take him out. Don't try to kidnap him. Just tell us if he in fact is there. So now you got the evidence. Was that a moment? Like when you saw him, you're like, holy shit. Did you know it was him first of all, or were you just, could it, could it be some rando?

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Are you sure? Because I would imagine in the moment I've been sort of not in this circumstance, but I've not long ago did this undercover video of somebody. And I was like, I hope I got the shot. You don't know until you can go check it later. But this is a very important shot to get.

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OK. And do you think it was instrumental in getting us to bin Laden?

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Madam CIA analyst, whose name we still don't know, was not using that particular information and figuring out where bin Laden was?

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All right. So what does that mean for you? Anything? Does that make you feel disappointed about it?

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Well, when you heard about the raid and you saw Barack Obama on television that night, what was your reaction? I thought it was great. You did? Yeah.

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Rob O'Neill was our first Memorial Day in-depth interview back when we launched the show. We didn't even have a video yet. It would have been Memorial Day of 2021 right after the show launched. And that story was just unbelievable just to hear it told firsthand. He's controversial now. Some people don't think he should have said it was him, blah, blah, blah. What do you think?

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I'm so sad. I have a freshman and the thought of that happening to him every day is upsetting. I mean, it's heartbreaking. Your parents never intervened. Did they know?

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I adore him. I really admire him so deeply. I, yeah, I'm not buying into any of that drama. All right. So now it wasn't done. Like you're, you're not done. The war is still going on. And then you wind up going to Iraq.

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I mean, that's a nightmare. Like when you look back on that one, what do you think?

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I don't know. I mean, you're out of their mind. You have an interesting take on it. And I, I love to hear your take on Saddam Hussein. Cause you're making some good points. I hadn't considered.

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You know what I mean? Yep. And then we had to mess with it. So did you, you did go on a mission where you, you got, you tried to get him. I tell me again what it was. It was like a woman, his affair partner's husband.

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You kind of would. Everyone pictures the affair partner as somebody who's very hot. The wife, maybe or maybe not.

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He had different taste. Maybe she had a routine. We have no idea.

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Okay. So, but it wasn't her you were looking for. It was her husband. She was married.

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So what was the story? Were they just young? Substance abuse?

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Okay. They don't always send in like the dark arts guys from the CIA to do that crap. Like that's, that's us too.

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Okay. Yeah. So how do you make a guy like that talk? And by the way,

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How do you communicate with one another? You have a translator there? Yeah.

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I don't know. I'm kind of an open book, but okay. Yes, I am too.

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This is a small point of order, but did he know that the wife was having an affair with Saddam Hussein?

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Yeah. He'd be a very easy guy to get rid of. And then you could have the side piece whenever you wanted it, but I guess he could anyway. So what's the point of killing the husband?

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So he gave up whatever info. And did we find Saddam Hussein after that?

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This is the process. Yeah. So when you, was that the biggest thing that you did while you were in Iraq? Would you say like the most serious thing?

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Oh my God. That was dark. That was the dark stuff. You were over there with all the beheadings and all that. Oh my God. I mean, does that scare you? You're only a man. You're a man.

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But I just can't imagine a mother allowing this to just keep happening to her child. Um, yeah.

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Oh, wow. So then what? How does it end for you? I don't know.

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It's so interesting to talk to you and hear you talk about how fun it was, because it seems like the hell of war and the trauma that guys have, the PTSD... But there's something about, like, what is it? Is it working with your comrades in arms? Is it, like, doing the thing that you've been told to do and you're really good at it and you love that? Is it all? Like, what is fun?

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Did you like maintain, I know you wound up living in a brothel, which is another interesting story, but did you, did you keep contact with your mom? Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Is she still around?

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And when your life is on the line, it just adds, I don't know, so much more to it, I would think. Yeah. Like you're risking it all together and any one of you might not be there the next night.

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Did you ever have to deal with that dynamic out in the field?

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Yeah. Just seems so weird to me. I don't know. I know nothing.

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Well, I'm just, I'm curious about, I'm just back to your dating life now. Like, can you meet a woman somehow? Or you're like, how do you fall in love? How do you like,

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John served our country for over 20 years, specializing in various special mission units and combat experience across multiple theaters, including Afghanistan and Iraq, where he hunted both Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein. I would like to introduce you to a new brand of Angus beef. You can order it directly from Riverbend Ranch, which is located just a few miles from West Yellowstone, Montana.

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Okay. Yeah. So when it all winds, when it ends, you know, Iraq eventually ends and Afghanistan ended disastrously and recently.

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Is that a moment for reflection on what it meant, what role you played, whether it was worth it, like, or no, is it just, I'm a soldier. I did my job next chapter.

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So no, we always joke. My husband's brother, they're Presbyterian and he always jokes when you're, when you're thinking about something like that, push it down, push it down. He's not wrong.

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Well, how do you reconcile it with stories like, you know, Marcus Luttrell and what happened to him? And he's definitely got some lasting PTSD from that rough ride back home.

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I mean, that's one of the worst stories of the war and what he went through is awful. And it's not just him. You know, I was it last year. No, it's two years ago. We talked to Dakota Meyer. He's doing great now. But, you know, he came back. He was awarded the Medal of Honor and wanted to kill himself like he did. There are tough, tough guys.

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These are not weak men who they don't process it the way you do. I think if you could somehow teach this, it would be extremely valuable.

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I feel like anybody could use this. People who have different traumas.

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Yeah, I know exactly what you mean. I know exactly. I might sign up for that.

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I got this. Is there some sort of toughen you up, John Camp? There isn't. I mean, the shirt, what does it read? Team SOB. Yeah. I called you tough SOB. Same thing. So this is not something I can sign up for so, or I can go learn.

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But the beatings, that would be tough to let go. I mean, I just feel like, did that create any resentment in you?

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Are you always going against somebody who knows what they're doing? Is it usually an instructor or another participant in the class?

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Do you worry about like outmatching somebody to the point where you're going to hurt them and get sued? No, I'm not going to hurt anybody. Cause permanent damage? No. I'm a recovering lawyer. This is how I think about these things.

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Oh, okay. Oh, yeah, because you were a sniper. I was, yeah. We didn't even go over that.

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More or less than J.D. Vance's mamaw had in her house when she... I don't even know how many that is. I think it was 19.

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No, where specifically? Give us the street address. No, I'm only kidding. I'm only kidding. So you settled in the warmth?

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There's a guy who goes in the side one, put on a little white scarf and a little leather helmet.

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Um, what do you think? I know you're not, you don't really watch the news. Do you follow politics at all? Like, what do you think of Trump? What do you think of Pete? Seth is the top guy at Pentagon.

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What have you seen enough of Pete to know what you like about him?

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That's awesome. Oh, we need, we need guys like you raising your hands. Thanks. Well, I love that you came in to tell us your story. You're such an interesting man.

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Call him right now. Get him on the line. I'm in. Whether you want to hear it or not, thank you for your service. You're welcome. It's a pleasure to meet you. Thank you. Yeah. All the best to you. Ah, didn't I tell you? He's unbelievable. What a guy, John McPhee. Thank you once again.

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Um, you know, it's just incredible that the stuff that our troops go through and the different mindsets that they develop along the way, right? It's our honor to talk to him. It's our honor to talk to all of our troops who have served in battle. And if you, if you're into what you heard today, you should go back and listen to the earlier Memorial day shows that we've done since we launched.

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Yeah, you can. Yeah. I wouldn't have had you on if you couldn't say that word. That's your favorite word.

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Uh, the first one was in 2021 and that was Rob O'Neill. We've done Marcus Luttrell. We've done Dakota Meyer, recipient of the Medal of Honor. It's just these guys are... they're living life around us. They're kind of back to normal and to the extent one can be with having these incredible backgrounds.

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So it's well worth our time to take a moment to learn from them and remember what they and our other troops have done for us while we've been sitting at home in our air conditioning, right? So that's what today is all about, especially honoring the fallen. We do that here. Thank them and their families for their service. In the meantime, I hope you have a great day with your families.

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I hope you have some time off. You can think about what matters. And I hope you'll tune in tomorrow when we have a live show and a special Kelly's Court. Everybody loves Kelly's Court, and we are bringing it to you tomorrow. So don't miss that. We'll see you soon. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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Did you know that chips and fries used to be cooked in tallow up until the 1990s when big corporations switched to cheap processed gross seed oils? But today, seed oils make up 20% of the average American's daily calories. And some studies have linked seed oils to metabolic health issues and inflammation in the body.

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We had a couple of experts on this show a couple of years ago telling us about how seed oils can help create bad fat on your body that is a lot harder to lose, FY. Check it out. Anyway, this company, Masa, decided to do something about it. They created a tasty and delicious tortilla chip with just three ingredients and no seed oils, organic corn, sea salt, and 100% grass-fed beef tallow.

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We need this product. these chips don't just avoid all the bad stuff. They taste incredible too. This is not that hard to do. More companies need to do this. We don't need all that crap in our food. Masa is crunchier, it's tastier, and it's sturdier than other chips.

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Does it create like a resentment toward black people? No, I don't resent anybody. If you have black schoolmates beating you up every day?

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You know what I'm saying? I'm guessing that given the way you described the school system there, you were not on the college track and you knew that.

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Did you know you're going to wind up in the armed forces though? Was that a goal?

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Okay. We'll get to that. But, um, I've got to spend a minute on the brothel since I mentioned it. How does, how did two guys, two kids wind up living in a brothel?

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Riverbend Ranch raises their cattle a lot differently than most ranches. For example, they never use artificial growth hormones or antibiotics. They track the health of every animal from the day it is born and can guarantee that it has been healthy every day of its life. And they handle their animals humanely and with respect. But most important is the quality of the beef.

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So you went back with your parents by 15 when the bus situation was happening?

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Okay. Walk me through it. So you're growing up, you're with your parents until around 12 and then you wind up living at a brothel.

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How'd you get connected with this woman running the brothel?

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And was that, you were there for the duration until you hit 18? Yeah.

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Yeah. So now you got to find a direction once you hit 18. You got to do something.

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You had a couple of skills that are completely foreign to me, like being good with an engine and being a good navigator. Yeah. I think you're born with that or you're not born with that. Am I wrong?

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Because you really needed it. It would become very important to you. It would. In your military service.

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I've always lost. You don't understand when you don't have this gift. It's so frustrating. I'm at the point when I drive, whatever my instinct is, I know to do the opposite, like a George Costanza situation. Like I just know, do not, whatever my instincts are telling me, it's wrong when it comes to directions. I'm missing this chip.

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So what, during these formative years, before we go off and join the military, are you, do you dating? Is there a special woman in your life?

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Did anything happen in the brothel that would deflower you or?

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Okay. I just saying, it seems like, it seems like an obvious thing to do. Um, okay. So you originally wanted to join the air force. Why?

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You'll find it as tender and flavorful as the finest restaurants. And that's because they have spent the last 35 years selecting cattle for tenderness and flavor, aging their beef to perfection for 21 days. The result is some of the most tender and flavorful beef you have ever tasted. You cannot buy beef like this in a grocery store.

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I mean, don't they shave your head anyway? What do they care what your hair looks like?

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So this is all before 9-11, you know, you're, you're signing up, but you don't know exactly what you're signing up for. I assume it's just, I want to be part of the military.

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That's donewithdebt.com, donewithdebt.com. In January, President Trump signing an executive order titled Protecting Children from Chemical and Surgical Mutilation, marking a major step toward a key priority of the administration, ending what it calls a dangerous medical trend harming America's youth. Among its directives, a full scientific review of current medical guidance.

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That review, released in early May, a 409-page report titled treatment for pediatric gender dysphoria, review of evidence, and best practices. According to the report, quote, an estimated 3.3% of adolescents in the U.S. identify as transgender, and an additional 2.2% question whether they might be.

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A growing number of these minors receiving drastic, often permanent, medical interventions pitched as necessary, even life-saving. The report covering the risks, outcomes, and scientific basis behind puberty blockers, hormone therapy, and gender surgeries on children, ultimately concluding that the evidence supporting these treatments is low-quality,

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and the potential for irreversible harm is high. It also includes testimony from whistleblowers who say children are being rushed into life-altering procedures without proper safeguards.

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One chapter taking aim at major medical groups like the World Professional Association for Transgender Health, known as WPATH, the American Academy of Pediatrics, and the Endocrine Society for using vague, ideologically loaded language that obscures biological reality. Quote, "...proponents of medicalization go to extraordinary lengths to avoid the plain use of the words male and female,"

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good morning everyone i'm megan kelly it's monday may 26th 2025 and this is your special memorial day edition of the am update a deep dive into the explosive 409 page hhs report exposing the risks of controversial medical treatments given to children with gender dysphoria.

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and related words such as boy and girl. When sex is defined, the definition is rarely correct, and in any case, the preferred phrase is sex assigned at birth. That's a phrase HHS says is medically inaccurate. Medical organizations endorse this vague language as a means of destigmatizing gender dysphoria and promoting what they call gender-affirming care.

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But the report argues this language manipulation is misleading, ideologically driven, and obscures the biological reality at the heart of the debate. We spoke to Dr. Itan Haim, one of the whistleblowers cited in the report. He says this language is not just misleading, it is deliberately deceptive.

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Whistleblower Dr. Itan Haim breaks down the findings.

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Dr. Haim says terms like gender-affirming care and top surgery, used to describe double mastectomies on healthy teenage girls, are euphemisms meant to sanitize radical, potentially devastating procedures.

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According to a 2023 study published by the American Medical Association, between 2016 and 2020, at least 3,215 patients between the ages of 12 and 18 underwent breast or chest procedures as part of gender transition surgeries. The HHS report also scrutinizing puberty blockers, promoted by activists as safe, temporary, and fully reversible.

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WPATH describes puberty blockers as a pause button, giving children time to explore their gender identity without the pressure of ongoing physical development. But the HHS report strongly challenges that framing, citing studies that show over 90% of children who begin puberty blockers go on to the more invasive interventions

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like cross-sex hormones, whereas if left alone, most children will grow out of their gender dysphoria. The report also takes aim at one of the most common talking points, that puberty blockers are reversible, which Dr. Haim calls medically dishonest.

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Rather than pressing pause, the report suggests these drugs act more like a fast track toward permanent medical transition. Dr. Haim explaining how puberty blockers affect the body.

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Despite their widespread use, the HHS report makes clear the long-term effects of puberty blockers and other medical interventions for gender dysphoria remain largely unknown. Dr. Haim says WPATH's influence reaches far beyond its own ranks, shaping the policies and guidance of nearly every major medical association in the country.

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What looks like a medical consensus, Dr. Haim argues, is actually a closed loop where activist-driven guidelines are recycled, repackaged, and passed off as settled science.

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WPATH reps exposed last year in leaked videotape acknowledging... that children cannot possibly give informed consent to these procedures, which can cause sterility and loss of all sexual function.

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WPATH has responded to the HHS report saying it, quote, misrepresents existing research and disregards the expertise of professionals who have been working with transgender and gender diverse youth for decades. Dr. Haim explains why so many doctors with years of medical training fall in line with guidance that to outsiders can seem extreme or even irrational.

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While the HHS report does not call to implement specific laws or regulations, its findings speak volumes. The evidence for medical transition in children is weak, the risks are extremely serious, and therapy remains the safest path forward. Coming up, what's the point of a 409-page report if it does not make any specific recommendations?

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Deputy Assistant to the President May Mailman joins us to explain how this report could still reshape policy moving forward. Tax day may have passed, but for millions of Americans, the real trouble is just beginning. If you miss the April 15th deadline or still owe back taxes, the IRS is ramping up enforcement, and every day you wait might make things worse.

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The executive order commissioning HHS's Treatment for Pediatric Gender Dysphoria Review of Evidence and Best Practices used bold language, accusing medical providers of, quote, maiming and sterilizing a growing number of impressionable children.

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We spoke to Deputy Assistant to the President May Mailman, a key architect behind the Trump administration's gender-based executive orders, who explained the approach the administration took to the executive order and the report.

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While the report does not spell out specific policy changes. Mailman says it gives lawmakers, regulators, and even private institutions a new scientific foundation to revisit their medical guidelines.

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The report offering a neutral counterweight to the ideologically driven recommendations of groups like WPATH, a leading pusher of so-called gender-affirming care, and one of the strongest voices trying to normalize radical medical interventions on children.

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Mailman also saying the report could strengthen future legal action, especially for child detransitioners who later feel they were misled by doctors or pushed into irreversible procedures. By exposing what she calls the weak scientific basis behind today's so-called standards of care,

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Mailman saying the findings could help patients like Chloe Cole, who had a double mastectomy at age 15 and who later detransitioned, hold doctors and institutions accountable, giving courts a framework for challenging what many now see as experimental medicine.

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That'll do it for your AM update. I'm Megyn Kelly. Join me back here for a brand new Megyn Kelly show today. Live on Sirius XM Triumph Channel 111 at noon east on youtube.com slash Megyn Kelly and on all podcast platforms.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. I'm Megan Kelly. Welcome to The Megan Kelly Show and happy Monday. I'm back home after a couple of weeks away. You know, you know how they say if you're going on vacation with your kids, it's not a vacation, it's a trip. It's a trip.

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And the others they suggest these girls might honor include Sonia Sotomayor, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, and Katonji Brown Jackson. So at least we had that one sort of moderate Republican judge on their bench. But it's all part of the same point, right? Like this is the leftist view of like what fair and balanced looks like. George Clooney speaks up now that Trump's back in office.

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You've got the school saying, yeah, there's Sandra Day O'Connor. Where's Amy Coney Barrett? How is she not on there, right? It's like, this is how the left operates.

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But I already moved them once. I'm not moving them again. I'm just gonna get on the school's back.

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Well, I do need some normal person, even like Diane Sawyer. Right. Like put her on there who wasn't at least like harshly partisan for all of her career and did mostly like down the middle type.

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Great. But Katie Couric, that's what they want. The school wants them, like, lauding Katie Couric, celebrating Katonji Brown Jackson, and looking at Rachel Levine and AOC and Stacey Abrams as politicians to honor. It's like outrageous. And it's everywhere. It's everywhere. And it's all connected, frankly, to why, as I said at the top of the show, the left is imploding.

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Their sort of pocket of the Democratic Party is the only one that's left standing. Unfortunately for them, it's a very, very small slice of their party. But within it, they're stars. And now we get a lecture on journalism. In fact, a whole Broadway show from George Clooney.

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Why they have no strong base of support other than, not coincidentally, who? white college educated women. That's it. That's some black women too, but for the most part, it's white college educated women who are still Democrats.

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So you think that she could have mass appeal? I mean, right now she's pulling it, I think, 5% or under in the national polls of who should be the Democratic nominee amongst Democrats. Kamala Harris is some 36%. She's at the top. AOC does have name recognition, but is nowhere near the top. She's at the bottom.

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But you think this person who is far, far left in her politics, notwithstanding her Green New Deal, where she wants to get rid of hamburgers, actually has a shot?

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You know, last year, my pals over at the Daily Wire asked me if I would do the voice of this cartoon character called Wendy Burcham in Adam Carolla's cartoon called Mr. Burcham about a shop teacher. So I was, quote, playing the wife of a shop teacher. Didn't make me the actual wife of a shop teacher. Never will.

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Okay, so I want to spend some time on Bernie and AOC because they go out there, they get, you know, supposedly they get these record crowds. There are questions about whether this is an AstroTurf crowd or, you know, this is just like the same group of protesters that shows up at all of these things or supporters, depending on what the daily cause is or not.

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But let's give them the benefit of the doubt and say, even though neither one is running for anything right now, it was organic and people just wanted to hear two Democrat socialists get up there and talk about making America more socialist. Okay. He's out there, they're both out there right now in some way trying to moderate their messages, right?

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He gave an interview in which he was asked, what's the one thing that Trump has done well? And here's what he said.

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Should have done much better. I guess he wants a closed border now. Tell that to the Bernie of 2019 when he was running for office in the primary, and everybody was asked if they wanted to crack down on illegal immigration at the border. He didn't. He didn't. He actually, he raised his hand saying he wanted to decriminalize the border, to decriminalize it, Ben.

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And has been, he's been all over the board, frankly, on this. Because at some points he's like, the Koch brothers are the ones who want open borders. That would be a disaster. But then he's saying we should decriminalize border crossings, which is basically a red carpet invitation.

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But what he wants ABC News and Jonathan Karl to think is he's pro-Trump's moves at the border, even though he called the first Trump administration wall ridiculous. He thought Trump's policies were way too tough that he was cracking down too much on. He wanted to end the deportations. I mean, so that's Bernie. Stand by. And then here is AOC, who is the queen of pronouns and all the trans nonsense.

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She hasn't seen a trans policy she doesn't support. She's dying to get boys into girls sports. And here she is. See if you can hear the change in her messaging on that issue at one of these rallies.

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George, just because you play some sort of a journalism expert, an old hand in a play or a movie or otherwise doesn't make you one. No one gives a shit what you think is wrong with journalism. And his preening and moralism and self-righteousness is on full display, apparently not only in this show, but last night on 60 Minutes. So we will get into all of that as well.

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She thinks she's a preacher. She sometimes slips into that way of speaking, right? But there she is. She just wants to table boys and girls sports. Just let the NCAA deal with it, Ben.

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I just don't think they should be betting on it because Trump, while he's saying we're going to have some short-term pain, hopefully for longer-term gain as he imposes these tariffs and so on, he's just never going to let it get to the point where somebody has a political advantage over him. That's just not how Trump operates. I agree with you. Right.

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If he actually sees trouble for himself or his successor or the Republicans on a sustained recession like economy, he'll he'll fix it. He'll he'll let up on the tariffs. He's never going to give them that advantage. Here's the sound about it. We were looking for on Bernie Sanders. So now he's suddenly pro Trump's border. Yeah, you know, it was well overdue. We needed a crackdown on the border.

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I mean, it's amazing that he said that to John Carl. And here he was. We pulled this. This is actually Western Lensman, who's on X. He put together this montage, a good one. And then our pal over at RealClearPolitics, Tom Bevin, called attention to it, to Bernie's reversal. Here he was not too long ago, sounding very different under Trump 1.0, SOT 41.

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Okay, so no wall, we're going to end the ICE raids, and we're not going to deport any people. And you saw him at that presidential debate saying he wants to decriminalize border crossings. But now he's super in favor of what Trump is doing at the border, long overdue. These guys are such hypocrites, it's absolutely infuriating.

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Okay, so there is a lot to talk about with the Democrat Party, but I just want to, while we're sort of on this point, leap to the deportations and what Trump is doing. Because Trump, while he's in the midst of this massive, massive war, lawfare campaign trying to stop his agenda and Democrat appointed judges who are only too happy to help.

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He is winning with some of these executive orders that are targeting more in the private sector. And I just want to get your thoughts on this balance. So he's really getting the crackdown from these immigration, pro-immigration groups on things like his attempt to deport Venezuelan gang members. They're the left really would love for them to stay.

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They want us to believe that they're all really sweet and just wanted to be here and work at the neighboring grocery store. Um, okay. Not, not, they're not the ones who killed Lake and Riley and Jocelyn Nangari. They don't want to talk about that. So that's getting stopped or at least paused by lawfare and judges like this Boseberg in the D.C. circuit.

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OK, then there's Trump issuing these executive orders on Maine when it comes to boys and girls sports. And Maine is caving already. It did at the college level. We still have to get a cave at K through 12. And Trump is at the point where he's like, great, thank you for caving. Now I want my explicit apology from the governor. which is amazing.

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You're still not getting your money unless I get my apology and a promise that you'll do it everywhere. He's amazing. Okay, so that's that. Then there's Columbia University, where he went in and said, this is a hotbed of anti-Semitism. You guys are out of control. You need to not let people wear these masks all over campus because they hide behind them.

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You need us to take over your weird department on Middle East studies, which seems to be the place you go to learn jihad, and we need to take that over, and a bunch of other things. And Almost entirely, Columbia just caved because it wants its $400 million back from the feds. And then there's what he's doing to these law firms.

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We have a great show for you today. We've got Stephen A. Smith in our second hour, and I will ask him about what's going on in my bracket. I'm sorry. This is the one sports thing I actually do participate in every year, and I love to pick the upsets. I always do because... My whole system is just picking the city with which I have some sort of personal affiliation.

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So he decides to target a couple of law firms, including Paul Weiss, who hired that one guy who wanted to prosecute Trump when he worked for Alvin Bragg. It was like a mission of his. And Trump was like, you know what? It's a Democrat law firm. They tried to target me or they at least rewarded somebody who tried to target me. And there's going to be all sorts of punishments to this law firm.

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Like, I don't think the federal federal government wants to be in business with them, which is his prerogative. And it took about two minutes. for them to completely cave on everything Trump wanted. They went in there with a bouquet of roses and then some, you know, he only wanted roses, but they brought chocolates and diamonds and were on the knee begging him to let up.

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So Trump is he's having success in these tactics, Ben. But I wonder what you make of the overall strategy and the successes and the not not losses so far, but the thwarting that we're seeing judicially.

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So this definitely leads to a lot of potential upsets in my bracket, which some years is great and some years not so great. No, none of the upsets is winning. Have you seen that? Like none. And now there are some real theories coming out about it. Stephen's got one. Clay Travis has got a similar one.

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But I'm happy to report that my kids are now officially at the stage where that is no longer true. They are very... very worthy vacation buddies. It takes a while. Like when they're in the single digits, all three of them, that's that I understand that saying very well, but we've crossed over into true vacation mode. Although last week, as you know, was on a vacation.

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,,,,,, And now he's going to be doing something else. So there's all sorts of chatter about this online, Ben. People's tongues are wagging. People used to work for the Daily Wire, suggesting this was a terrible implosion and that Jeremy was impossible to work for, etc. What is the truth?

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It's like a Game of Thrones series that you guys are producing right now.

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Okay. I have just enough time for my last thing. Spring break is full of idiots. And you'll see why I'm showing this to you. Watch.

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They are shockingly dumb. They are just as dumb as you think, and then even dumber than that. Not all of them, but a healthy collection on the beaches celebrating drinking and being youthful. Ben Shapiro, a pleasure. We'll see you again soon. Coming up, Stephen A. Smith. Think of the last movie that made you think, that changed you, never mind possibly inspired you.

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Just because I was Wendy Burcham doesn't make me actually Wendy Burcham and capable of speaking about what it's like to be married to Mr. Burcham or a shop teacher. But George Clooney, I realize this isn't the most important news, but it's interesting, is now starring on Broadway in Good Night and Good Luck.

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It is clear the Democrats are in disarray, lost in their messaging and on the hunt for their next political leader. Could my next guest be the answer? There's plenty of speculation and he is garnering some support in early polls. Plus, I need to ask him about my bracket. Joining me now, Stephen A. Smith. He's host of The Stephen A. Smith Show and first take and author of Straight Shooter.

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I mean, I'm totally out of the NCAA tournament. I'm out. I wanted a couple of years amongst all media because I choose the upsets. And Stephen A., this was not the year to do that. So why is this happening? Why did none of the upsets do well in round one?

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The ones that really caused me are Clemson and St. John's. I went for St. John's because that's not far from where I grew up. And I went for Clemson because it's where my dear friend's daughter goes. And there's a sweet story behind it with their family. So I rooted for them to get all the way Clemson to the final four, which I realized was bold. But, but now there's this theory that,

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that like there's a reason we're not seeing any upsets win. And it has to do with the fact that we're allowing the athletes to make money while they're athletes. Can you explain this to me?

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Um, and I guess at the end of this show, he turns around and looks at the audience and offers a lecture on how journalism is imploding, that what's happening with the Trump administration is like McCarthyism, that we need a full, free and fair press to hold this administration's feet to the fire. And this is why I gather he was profiled on 60 minutes last night and asked about the fourth estate.

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That's exactly right. I remember a couple of years ago, my little guy had a serious injury while skiing and he was laid up in the ICU for a week and we were watching the March Madness Tournament, totally got him through it. And that was the year that Gonzaga had that guy, Timmy. I don't remember his full name, but he was amazing. They were getting beaten down.

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They went into the locker room at halftime and he turned around that team and they came back and they made it. They didn't win the tournament, but they made it far and it was so exciting and it was a Cinderella kind of thing. And that's kind of what I thought might happen with some of these other schools, but so far, no.

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OK, but here's here's let me I got to ask you about Duke or I'd be remiss. Now, the only reason I voted for Duke, my husband went there, but I usually don't vote for them just because he went there. I have my system. Right. If I had a connection to the city, I vote for them unless the odds are just crazy. Yeah.

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So but this year, Doug took our whole family to watch Duke play a game against Illinois at Madison Square Garden. And they looked amazing. They looked so good. And everybody was talking about Cooper Flagg. Everybody's in love with this guy, Cooper Flagg, who's he's amazing. He's six foot nine. But I have to tell you, I have to look at the names because I don't have them off the top of my head.

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Tyrese Proctor was the one who wowed me. Who is the best player on Duke? And why is it Tyrese Proctor?

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My kids looked up. He's 6'9", how tall he was when he was closer to their age. They're in 8th grade, 9th grade, and 5th grade. And in 8th grade, according to the internets, he was already 6'7", which is crazy to think about an 8th grader who's 6'7". Last night, we saw him take an elbow in the eye, and he did look like he had a shiner coming on, and he still played. He kept going.

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Respect that, too, with how these athletes all play. They all play hurt. I will say this just before we close out our sporting discussion. What happened to Syracuse where I went? When I went there back in the dark ages, 88 to 92, we were great. We were always at the top. It was us, Georgetown, sometimes Duke, Villanova, you know, for the top spot.

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They're not even in the tournament, Stephen A. What happened to Syracuse?

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They had Billy and Michael Owens, who is a great football player. They were brothers. They live right next door to me.

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Well, you tell him I live next to him at Skytop. And they constantly were giving us free tickets to go watch the games. And I was like, eh, I'm good.

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You know what's crazy, too, is I didn't follow it as closely in basketball. But when I was there, I dated the captain of the lacrosse team that won three Division I national championships. And so I followed lacrosse. And they got their medals, like their first-place trophies, taken away from them after the fact for some alleged recruiting violations that, if memory serves, had to do with, like,

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You know, they bent some of the rules around, like, driving players' parents around in limousines, that kind of stuff. All of which they all do now, Stephen A. You know, it's like, and by the way, they were all doing it then, too. It just seems so unfair that I think that's what happened to the basketball program is it got its hand slapped for some of these violations.

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And then once you get slapped hard enough, it's very hard to get back up as a basketball team. They've never quite rebounded, to steal a sports phrase.

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So that's him backstage with his Edward R. Murrow, like, wannabe castmate supporters, lecturing all of us, Ben, on how it needs to be done and how, I mean, you might say democracy dies in darkness if the journalism people don't do more journalism-ing.

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You're so right. God, that really captures it. All right, so we talked about how smart it is to put Cooper flag in front of a flag, and we did see him all over the ads when we watched NCAA. But what's not smart? A disturbing collection of young people on spring break. Now, I left off here with Ben Shapiro, and I've got to pick it back up with you because it's just too delicious.

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And again, props to the gal who went down there and got all these folks on camera. I think her name is Caitlin Bennett, and she posts under Liberty. hangout TV. She used to be with turning point, uh, Charlie Kirk's group. So what we, what you missed even was, uh, we played a long clip. I'm gonna play another one where they were asked how many us senators are there.

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Who won the Civil War, American Civil War? Was it East or West? The students responded. Name a Supreme Court justice. The girl said, is it the FBI?

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All right. It was Clearwater, Florida, not quite south of the border. Your thoughts on... This is just a rando look into Gen Z. I realize very few people can name even one Supreme Court justice, but I feel like most people know the FBI as an institution does not hold one of the seats. Help me out, Stephen.

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One thing may matter. I agree with you on the race, et cetera. But I do think being extremely hot as a college girl can be a detriment to you. And I can say this as somebody who wasn't. But I think these girls, they're all very beautiful. They have perfect bikini bodies. And I think they've been able to skate by already in life for too long on those impressive attributes.

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And girls, I am here to tell you, It won't last. You need to develop your minds because even men who are attracted to your beautiful looks will eventually want someone to keep the conversation going at dinner. It may happen two years into a relationship. It may happen after three kids when nobody's body looks the same as they did pre-kids. You can get it close, but not the same.

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But at some point, your future mate is going to want you to say something clever about something. And correct me if I'm wrong, Stephen A., but most men will look at women and think, do I want to reproduce with this person and create another generation of idiots? Like, doesn't somewhat of a mind factor in when choosing not your date for Saturday night, but your date for every Saturday night?

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We, we were working, we were doing the show. We were just doing it from the Bahamas, which was quite nice. There's nothing to complain about. Anyway, it's nice to be home and there's plenty of news to keep us propelling forward. Uh, the Democrat Democratic party is in shambles. I don't know if you saw this anywhere. Yeah, it's, it's in shambles.

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And that is how you wind up thinking that there are a total of six U.S. senators. I can't. Girls, call me. You can email me right now. It's Megan at Megan Kelly dot com. I will I'll help you. I will help all of you. First thing is we're going to have to put on a bathing suit cover up. We're going to have to sit down for two hours a day. You can watch Stephen A. You can watch M.K. Your choice.

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But you're going to have to take in something. OK. Right. Let's speaking of running for office. Are you actually consider there's a lot of buzz about you because the Democrats desperately need somebody with charisma, personality, strong views and smarts who maybe isn't a partisan hack. That's all you to step in and say, I will help you. Are you are you kicking it around a little?

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They tried to pull that on you when you went on The View. And you gave them a bit of what you just said. And it was a thing of beauty because they don't often have somebody come on and say what's real to them. Here it is in Stop 30.

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Well, it's a different definition of a mandate, I guess. Do you think you got through?

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You know, it's amazing to watch him talk about this. Like, it's now is the time. Where was he during COVID? You know, you saw last week, the New York Times with its aha moment on COVID. Like, you know what? We really need to talk about the fact that this looks like he came from a lab. How is it we didn't talk about that?

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for five years because you New York Times were calling people racist who said it looks like it came from a lab. And then Bill Maher the other night had this like aha moment of like, geez, it really looks like Fauci may have been kind of a villain and not, you know, all these leftists are coming around to the truth of things like COVID. That's just one example.

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Five years later than the rest of us because George Clooney's idea of journalism is to just toe the party line when it helps the left and say what needs to be said and bury what needs to be said so long as it will hurt the right.

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For the NCAA Wrestling Championships this weekend. Cheers of USA. Glad handing. Elon's there. Heroes welcome. So, Stephen A., this is another sports moment where, to confess, I knew nothing about this, but here's what happened. Oklahoma State heavyweight Wyatt Hendrickson, who was not expected to win. The other guy he was up against was an Olympic gold medalist. But Hendrickson somehow...

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pulled off one of the biggest upsets in NCAA wrestling history, won the match, and then he, being a second lieutenant in the U.S. Air Force, did the following since his commander-in-chief was there watching. Let's take a look.

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And Stephen A. Trump with the like the punching, you know, hand the way he always does. Great moment. Sport. Trump is using sports well in this presidency. No.

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That's right. And I agree with you completely. You show respect for the office that is his commander in chief. And sports have always been an area that could potentially bring us together. So it's great, I think, to see the president there. There was another young man who, let's see, it's Nebraska wrestler Caleb Smith, who they had a nice moment together.

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And we love to see this, like Trump kind of glad handing with him with the arm around the neck. People love this. I think Joe Biden should have done more of this. And Trump's spot on to lean into what's a natural affinity of his, Stephen A. Smith, thank you so much for being here. It was a pleasure.

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Yeah. So here he is going on, this is to 60 last night, about, you mentioned his op-ed in the New York Times on Joe Biden and why he did it. Such a selfless, brave, brave act, Ben. Here he was.

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So here is the little extra that I wanted to bring to you today. It's not hysterical, but it's mildly amusing. So something happened to me on my vacation, at the tail end of my vacation, which I've just been giggling to myself about. I thought I'd share it with you guys. So we were flying home from the Bahamas and I...

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was with my family and was going through security to like get on the jet bridge, like onto the plane with my family. But something happened like right behind me that somehow delayed them. And I actually never, I still don't know what exactly delayed them.

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So the long and the short of it is I gave my boarding pass to the flight attendant, you know, the gate agent, and she waved me through and I started walking down the jet bridge and, um, Then I looked back and there was this other family in between me and my family. And they had like a bunch of bags and stuff. So I was like, I better get on because I want to make sure I have some space overhead.

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So I just kept going. But then the jet bridge took a right angle. It kind of turned right, right angle. And I was like, well, this is just too, this is begging time. for me to do this. So I'm going to have to see the overhead space. And I decided I would hide and scare my family because I love to scare them. And they scare me all the time.

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When we were down at the swimming pool down there, I was minding my own business. I was reading my book. Doug had been swimming with the kids and they sneaked up. I didn't even see it. And they scared me with like a large scream, dropped my book, scared. It's fun. You know, you laugh, you hate it in the moment, but then you kind of laugh about it because you seem like an idiot. Anyway,

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So I'm like, I'm going to get them all. I owe them. Now, I knew that there was a family behind me. So, of course, I knew I had to wait, right? So there I am. I'm behind the corner.

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Like you cannot open up a paper, the internet, your podcast feed without seeing a show talking to you about how badly it has imploded, uh, according to the polls, according to the party elders, according to surveys that are figuring out why they lost. And it's just basically abject hatred by Democrats of their own party. I mean, it's just, it's, It's just good luck. I wish you well.

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And we laughed about it for the rest of the flight. And it turned out that guy... was seated right in front of me on the plane. It was all I could do not to keep scaring him. I was dying to do it. Then I was like, now, now it's just bordering on obnoxious. Now I could actually like get in trouble. So I didn't.

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Anyway, sir, if you're out there, thank you for being such a good sport and for giving me something that's kept me laughing for a solid two days now. Thanks to all of you too for listening and we'll see you tomorrow. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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That right there is such a lie. It's such a lie, Ben. Let me just give you the dates, okay? That fundraiser where he saw Biden almost falling off the stage where Obama came out to grab him was June 15th. The debate was June 27th. So two weeks passed, he said nothing.

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Then you and I both watched that debate, just like all of our listeners and viewers did, and saw the then sitting president completely implode. And it was very clear he had no chance of going forward. And it wasn't until July 10th, almost a month after he attended the fundraiser with him, that George Clooney finally wrote that op-ed after it became clear that Joe Biden wasn't stepping down.

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He's such a liar that he just encountered him at the debate and knew what he had to do.

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And because he was in One Fine Day with Michelle Pfeiffer back in 1996. You were still in your cradle, but they starred. I love this movie because I was young, kind of always aspiring journalist back then. I was a practicing lawyer, but I had been told in high school I should be a journalist. It was always in the back of my head.

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And so I love this movie because she's like this up-and-comer, and he worked, I think, for the New York Daily News or something like that. But anyway, it was like the two of them at the height of their fame. It doesn't make him an actual journalist. And so he's like, who is it?

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Is it Tom Cruise who really tried to be a Navy SEAL, even though he was too old to be a Navy SEAL and put himself through SEAL training? It's like, you can try to go through the SEAL training. That's fine. You want to like see if you can do it. But Tom Cruise didn't come out actually believing he was a Navy SEAL. He doesn't think he can fight fighter jets because of Top Gun.

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Only George Clooney feels like he's in the position to lecture all of us on how it's done, how it ought to be done after having been silent, you know, conspicuously silent for the last four years. Where's his lecture to The New York Times on how to cover brain infirmities? Right. Like right now, he's upset. He's upset about the press. And to your point,

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The press is not falling down on the job in trying to cover Trump negatively. They're falling down on the job in plenty of other ways. Only in George Clooney's world does he have to come out now and lecture the press on how important they are now more than ever. The dirty little secret here, however, is he speaks for all of them.

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You know the left-wing press, and by that I mean the press, is like, right on. They're going to sleep at night.

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Also in the news, Tim Walls trashing Elon Musk. We talked about that late last week. Now he's pretending it was all a big joke. He wasn't really celebrating the downfall of Tesla stock. That was all just Tim Walls being super funny. Maybe you missed it. Bernie Sanders and AOC on a socialism tour out West. And apparently it's going over big.

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So I'm just looking for this text because my friend sent this to me. At our school, you know, we fled our New York City schools because they were so insanely woke. It was crazy and annoying. And now we're out here in Connecticut where we've done no question better, but especially at our daughter's school, they're more woke than I would like.

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And you've got, you know, George Clooney out there with his selective moments on, you know, journalism and when he needs to speak up and our school, this is my daughter's not in the fourth grade, but somebody who's got a child in the fourth grade sent me this list.

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The girls were supposed to, I think, write, um, do a project about some famous women and they gave them some suggestions on like women they might consider. And, uh, I'll give you the, hold on a second. Where is it? the journalists that were so that were suggested newscasters slash journalists. Um, the only one you, there's only two, uh, one's older who nobody knows Katie. Correct.

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That's who they think these girls should hold up and write it. Now it's like, What exactly are you going to pull from Katie Couric? Are we going to pull her gun documentary, which was totally fair and balanced and had her acting in the midst of it? Is that are we going to talk about that when we do the Katie Couric honor? And then we get to, OK, politicians.

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OK, you've got Kamala Harris, Rachel Levine. This is at my school. Rachel Levine, as a politician that might want to be honored at an all-girls school for this women's event. Stacey Abrams, AOC. Oh my God. And then we get to the Supreme Court. And on the Supreme Court, here's one of the ones. Okay, so they did get Sandra Day O'Connor on there. Appreciate that. There was one.

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Ms. Zegler, starring opposite Israeli actress Gal Gadot, also drawing significant backlash in August 2024, thanking fans for support on X, then writing, quote, And always remember, free Palestine. In the wake of the 2024 election, Ms. Zegler writing on Instagram, quote, May Trump supporters and Trump voters and Trump himself never know peace. F Donald Trump. Ms.

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Zegler later apologized for the post when she received backlash. The movie also taking heat early on from Peter Dinklage, an actor with dwarfism, for even remaking the movie at all. Mr. Dinklage making these comments on the WTF with Marc Maron podcast.

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Disney responding by reimagining the dwarfs as magical creatures. A move also drawing backlash from other actors with dwarfism for denying them employment opportunities. You know, like the kind Peter Dinklage had. Snow White's underwhelming opening weekend marking the lowest domestic debut of any Disney live-action remake.

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Turns out maybe telling half the country you hate them and the character Snow White wasn't a great marketing strategy. That'll do it for your AM Update. I'm Megyn Kelly. Join me back here for The Megyn Kelly Show, live on SiriusXM Triumph Channel 111 at noon east, on YouTube.com slash Megyn Kelly, and on all podcast platforms.

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High-ranking Trump administration officials set to visit Greenland from Thursday to Sunday as President Trump eyes the Arctic territory. National Security Advisor Mike Walz and Energy Secretary Chris Wright will reportedly tour Bidoofik Space Force Base, the DoD's northernmost installation.

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Second Lady Usha Vance will also join her second solo international trip since the second Trump administration took office. The Office of the Second Lady releasing a statement saying Ms. Vance will, quote, learn about Greenlandic heritage and attend Greenland's national dogsled race.

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President Trump sending a high-level delegation to Greenland, which he has vowed to obtain one way or another.

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An idea that began under the first Trump administration, acquiring Greenland, receiving renewed focus under Trump 2.0, even getting special mention in the president's inaugural address.

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President Trump believes acquiring Greenland poses significant national security and economic benefits. Secretary of State Marco Rubio explaining the strategic significance of Greenland in part on The Megyn Kelly Show.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Monday, March 24th, 2025, and this is your AM Update.

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President Trump previously would not rule out using military force to acquire the island, though there is a stronger possibility of the U.S. either purchasing Greenland or working out another deal. Greenland is a semi-autonomous territory within the Kingdom of Denmark, both Danish and Greenlandic officials firmly rejecting the idea of joining the U.S.,

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the danish prime minister mattei fredriksen saying in the kingdom we wish to co-operate with the americans but it must and shall be a co-operation based on the fundamental values of sovereignty and mutual respect between nations and peoples this is something we take seriously

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As Democrats struggle to find their footing, AOC hits the road, fueling speculation about her political future. A former U.S. attorney found dead in her home. And box office numbers are in for Disney's scandal-plagued, woke live-action remake of Snow White. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Why?

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Two weeks ago, the pro-independence, center-right, democratite party, winning 30% of the seats in Greenland's parliament, the leader of the party and likely next prime minister, Jens Frag Nielsen, calling President Trump, quote, a threat to our political independence.

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As Democrat lawmakers struggle to find their footing, New York Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders take their show on the road. The pair of Democrat socialists drawing a crowd of more than 30,000 on Friday night in Denver, reportedly. Senator Sanders, a twice-failed Democrat primary challenger, saying it was his largest rally ever.

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The events billed as the Fighting Oligarchy Tour, taking aim at President Trump and Elon Musk.

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The media responding enthusiastically to the rallies, devoting much glowing coverage.

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Less prominent, any fact check of the oligarch claim or any mention of the Democrats' embrace of their own billionaires, from George Soros and Reid Hoffman to Michael Bloomberg and Oprah. Back on the Hill, cracks deepening among Democrats, the infighting ramping up following Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer's decision to advance the continuing resolution.

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Mr. Schumer stated his decision was out of fear of what Elon Musk and Doge could do to further slash the government in a shutdown. AOC in particular, highly critical of Senator Schumer's decision.

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In the wake of the continuing resolution vote, some Democrats reportedly encouraging AOC to launch a primary challenge against Mr. Schumer. Ms. Ocasio-Cortez is 35 years old now. There's some speculation on whether she will run for president in 2028. A recent morning consult poll among Democrat and Democrat-leaning voters showing 36% prefer Kamala Harris, AOC trailing far behind with just 5%.

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Senator Sanders asked by ABC if President Trump has done anything right so far.

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Under President Trump, border crossings are at historic lows, and The New York Times reports that fentanyl labs in Mexico are closing up shop in areas where they were doing big business. Coming up, Republicans divided on impeachment weigh other legislative options to rein in what they see as activist judges.

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And box office numbers are in for Disney's scandal-plagued woke live-action remake of Snow White. You don't go out and buy a life jacket when the boat is sinking and you don't buy gold when the economy has already collapsed. Clearly others are heeding this advice as gold hit all time highs already this year. It's not too late for you too.

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Universal injunctions becoming a major storyline of the second Trump administration, sparking debate among Republicans on how best to deal with perceived rogue judges. A universal injunction, which blocks federal policies nationwide, is typically issued by a single federal district court judge. During the appeals process, the case is then reviewed by a three-judge panel at the circuit court level.

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The Supreme Court can also weigh in on the injunction if it is appealed or if emergency relief is requested. lifting a nationwide injunction can take several months to more than a year following a full appeals process.

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So far in the second Trump administration, judges have imposed at least 15 universal injunctions, including blocking a ban on transgender people serving in the military, blocking an end to birthright citizenship, limiting attempts to freeze federal funding, and halting the deportation of gang members under the Alien Enemies Act.

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These 15 orders in some two months, far surpassing previous administrations. President George W. Bush facing a total of six over eight years, just 12 for President Obama in two terms, and 14 for President Biden in four years. In President Trump's first administration, there were 64. The Harvard Law Review pointing out 92% of these injunctions imposed on the first Trump administration were

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were issued by Democrat-appointed judges. White House Deputy Chief of Staff for Legislative, Political, and Public Affairs, James Blair, telling Politico this is part of a concerted effort to thwart the Trump agenda.

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Mr. Blair going on to say the judges have, quote, effectively neutered an entire plank of the administration. Several congressmen introducing articles of impeachment against four judges in recent weeks. President Trump recently calling for the impeachment of U.S. District Judge James Boasberg of the District of D.C. He's chief judge there.

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Judge Boasberg blocked the Trump administration's effort to deport suspected Trenda Aragua gang members under the Alien Enemies Act of 1798. The DOJ now in an onerous battle with Judge Boasberg to prove it did not violate his order by not calling back two planes filled with gang members, they say, deported under the AEA.

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As members of the Trump administration publicly push for the removal of what they call activist judges, House Speaker Mike Johnson weighing his options. Removing a judge via the impeachment process requires 67 votes in the Senate. That's not going to happen under the current balance of power. Political reporting, even among House Republicans, support is mixed.

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One senior House Republican aide saying, quote, it's never going to happen. There aren't the votes. California Congressman Daryl Issa preparing to introduce the No Rogue Rulings Act in April. The bill seeks to restrict a judge's ability to issue an injunction beyond the parties directly involved in a case.

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As an example, if a nonprofit sues the Trump administration because Doge cuts its funding under the No Rogue Rulings Act, a judge would only be able to issue a ruling that applies to that specific nonprofit, not a nationwide injunction blocking the funding cuts for everyone. Politico reporting on a number of impeachment alternative strategies.

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Some GOP members are discussing resolutions condemning recent rulings against the Trump administration. Those moves would be purely symbolic. Other discussions involve cutting the funding for the federal district court in Washington or breaking up the existing district and circuit courts entirely.

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Chairman of the Judiciary Committee Jim Jordan telling CNN he will hold hearings to investigate possible steps the House can take.

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Speaker Johnson saying he, quote, looks forward to working with the Judiciary Committee as they review all available options under the Constitution to address this urgent matter. Former U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia, Jessica Aber, found dead on Saturday morning. Ms. Aber, just 43. Alexandria police responding to a 9.18 a.m. phone call reporting an unresponsive woman.

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Little's known about the circumstances surrounding Ms. Aber's death. Who placed the call, where she was found, what condition her body was in, all unknown at the moment. Police revealing little information other than confirming an investigation is underway. The office of the chief medical examiner will determine the cause and manner of death. Ms. Aber resigned from her post as U.S.

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attorney on January 20th, President Trump's inauguration day. President Biden appointed Ms. Aber to office in August of 2021. She was confirmed by the Senate that October. In her time as U.S. Attorney, Ms. Aber heading high-profile investigations into intel leaks, Russian fraud plots, and war crime allegations. Just days before resigning, Ms.

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Aber securing a conviction when an ex-CIA official pleaded guilty to leaking top-secret documents meant to hurt Israel. The documents outlining an Israeli retaliation attempt against Iran. Ms. Aber also involved in charging four Russian soldiers with war crimes against an American citizen living in Ukraine.

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The DOJ alleging the defendants tortured, beat, and threatened to kill the unidentified American. The defendants are not likely to appear in the U.S. to face charges. And of course, Ms. Aber had already stepped down as U.S. attorney at the time of her death. U.S. Attorney Eric Siebert releasing a statement reading in part, quote, we are heartbroken beyond words. Ms.

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Aber was unmatched as a leader, mentor, and prosecutor, and she is simply irreplaceable as a human being. We will be monitoring this story and bring you more information as it becomes available. Disney's live-action remake of Snow White, dogged with woke controversies and delays, bombs at the box office on opening weekend.

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The film bringing in just $16 million on opening day, finishing the weekend just shy of $15 $50 million domestically, far below expectations. Variety reporting the film also falling millions short of its projected $100 million international debut. The House of Mouse spent an estimated $270 million making this movie.

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The premiere, originally planned for March 2024, delayed by a full year after several controversies, mostly involving its outspoken, woke lead actress, Rachel Zegler. Problems arising early on with Ms. Zegler trashing the original Snow White.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and happy Monday. Well, we might get a peace deal in Ukraine this week. And the media is freaking out about Elon Musk emailing every government employee this weekend. But the big news tonight will be Joy Reid's final show on MSNBC. Single tier.

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I have zero sympathy for her. People say like, oh, you shouldn't celebrate when somebody loses their job. Well, who says I can't? I am. I am celebrating. She deserves it. She never should have been on there to begin with. She's talentless. Honestly, she she makes her talent. So-called talent is being a racist on TV. That's her talent.

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She's she'll say the most incendiary, nasty things possible about whites and blacks who are conservative. That's the main criterion. If you're white, doesn't matter your politics stripes, she doesn't like you. If you're a black person who's conservative, she hates you even more than she hates the whites. Clarence Thomas is one.

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I mean, anybody who pipes up as a black conservative is the enemy to Joy Reid. We checked in just to see if... Has she changed at all? What's like what happened on her most episode? So we went to Friday just to pull a clip and take a look at this one. This is Wajahat Ali, who is also a terrible person who was part of that infamous panel with Don Lemon about the Republicans in their maps.

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And they're so stupid. So here he is now this time with Joy Reid and what would maybe be her ultimate or penultimate show.

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She's shaking her head up and down, up and down as he's saying it. You can't be a Republican if you're Byron Donald's, Victor. They'll never love you. They all secretly hate you. You are, as he put it, a chicken for Colonel Sanders.

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I mean, James Carville just gave an interview to Dan Abrams saying that just be quiet because the Trump White House is imploding and it'll be over, I think he said, in six weeks or 30 days to six weeks, it'll be over. They're just imploding. Then drops a Harvard-Harris poll today showing Donald Trump approval rating 52%, disapproval 43%.

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Well, it doesn't feel like it's imploding, but okay, we'll wait, James. That was a rare, hard miss.

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And I think he said 30 days, so we'll see. Okay, we'll look 30 days from today to see whether Trump is still president and whether he still has a White House that's operational and making important decisions. To stay on the subject of Joy Reid and Trump, he tweeted out or truthed out his thoughts. Okay.

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Lowlife chairman of Comcast Brian Roberts has finally gotten the nerve up to fire one of the least talented people in television, the mentally obnoxious racist Joy Reid. Also thrown out, this is news too, was Alex Wagner, the sub on the seriously failing Rachel Maddow show. Rachel rarely shows up because she knows there's nobody watching. Not wrong there.

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Then there's, of course, the low IQ con man Al Sharpton. What is he doing to Brian Roberts to stay on the air? He did not get fired. Nothing more than an illegal arm of the Democratic Party, meaning MSNBC. Fake news is an unpardonable sin. So here is a little reaction from the left. That was obviously from the right. Here is former MSNBC anchor Keith Olverman with quite the take.

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The first point there, Victor, he's not wrong that they've replaced this incendiary woman with, you know, two people. Michael Steele can obviously be offensive and say offensive things. Simone Sanders, more so these days, she used to be more reasonable. Now she's gotten harder left. But he's not wrong that there's a shift happening there. Because this just in... three more people fired at MSNBC.

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Um, this is from the New York post. Uh, the new president there continued to overhaul the embattled network canceling shows. So maybe they're not fired. We're not sure, but their shows are canceled. Um, by left wing anchors. I'm on Moyadine, Katie Fang and Jonathan Capehart. I'm on, I don't know his, I don't want to presume for based as a name, but I do think he's, um, he's Muslim, um,

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Katie Fang is an Asian person, woman, and Jonathan Capehart is a black man who wrote for the Washington Post and was really he was the only person he was like hard leaning into hands up, don't shoot. And as I recall, he was the only person to ever acknowledge that. That turned out to be wrong. I'm sorry. So I give him points for that. But he is hardcore leftist woke.

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Here he was just the other week doing that DNC roundtable before they voted on their new president. Everybody had to say if they were non-binary because they needed to get their non-binary numbers up. And this was Jonathan Capehart really drilling down to what was most important in the next leader of the DNC. Watch.

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Well, obviously, Matt Drudge. We no longer recognize Matt Drudge, the actual.

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Okay. So, he's now gone. He lost his show. And here's just a little background on what Moyadin did the weekend of October 7th. This is via National Review. He said that Hamas terrorism is ultimately the end result of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu ignoring Palestinians, adding that the attacks are very deadly consequences of failed policies. So that's him.

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Katie Fang, I don't know what her sin was other than terrible ratings. But MSNBC is gleaning something, Victor, and that something is not a positive sign for them.

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No, neither do I. Somebody said, and this is totally unconfirmed, but somebody told me when I was in some political muckety-muck circles over the Super Bowl weekend that they heard he got bought out by somebody with like hundreds of millions, and that person is a leftist and kind of purchased his opinion. That doesn't sound like drudge to me, but what the hell do I know? Okay, forget about him.

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Right. Here's now what they've done, because this won't be over for MSNBC. I've told the story before about when I went into the 9 a.m. slot on NBC replacing Tamron Hall, the National Association of Black Journalists wrote a letter to NBC saying, you're racist because you replaced a black woman with a white woman. And I like NBC called them to say, what are you talking about? This is ridiculous.

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We have lots of black hosts up and down the lineup. And they admitted they were doing a favor that they got asked. This was a favor. And I know who called it in, um, to, to complain on behalf of this black host. So now what they've done in their primetime lineup over at MSNBC is they replaced out of their one, two, three, four primetime hosts to, um, were women of color.

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Alex Wagner is a woman of color. I'm not exactly what her background is, but she's not white. And Joy Reid, of course, is a black woman. And they've replaced two out of the four. with new hosts. In one case, they replaced Joy Reid with two black people and a Hispanic woman. And in the case of Alex Wagner, they put in a white woman. Jen Psaki is in replacing her.

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I'm not sure what they're going to, I mean, it's one thing to have Rachel Maddow there. That's the white woman they can all tolerate. Psaki's new to the game. Of course, I don't really call her Jen Psaki because whenever I hear her talk, I can only see and hear this.

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That's how she talks. I'm sorry, but it is. So she's going to be taking over there, and there will be racial blowback on MSNBC. It's happening. I guarantee you by this time tomorrow, we'll have some sort of a letter, protest, fiery something. It's going to happen.

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Let's talk about Joy Reid. I'm so torn. Oh, Victor, I'm so torn. You know, I'm thrilled she's gone. She literally was the most racist person on television, her and her most favorite guest, Eli Mistal or Ellie Mistal. So they deserve 100% both to be fired. But, you know, it's like we won't have her to kick around anymore. And there's a little sadness in that.

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Like we had Nimrata, meaning Nikki Haley. And we have who was the other Indian he named an Indian American. He like everybody's got to be in their group and be reminded that the evil Republicans will never really want you. They don't really want you, Nikki Haley. They don't really want you, Vivek. They don't really want you, Byron Donalds. Your your skin color is everything to them.

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Of course, this is projection. This is how the Democrats see it all. But let me just give you a couple of other examples, Victor, because it's amazing. You look at the people who are going, and I'm sure in six months we'll be doing a montage of the people who came in, and they're probably going to sound a lot like the people who left.

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But in any event, this Alex Wagner, she was doing four days in a Rachel Maddow slot, and Rachel was doing Mondays. And by the way, so the only two people remaining from those four are two white guys. They got the two white guys, Chris Hayes and Lawrence O'Donnell, survived. They lived to fight another day, okay? But Alex Wagner had to go. Look, in MSNBC's defense, she was totally talentless.

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She was pretty. And she was pretty. I'm sorry. This is like the list of her accomplishments. And left wing, which I guess somebody at MSNBC thought, okay, that'll do it. This is just a sample of Alex Wagner's kind of commentary. This is her during the DNC. Let's start with SOT7.

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that carries her pregnancy. She caught herself for saying women and corrected it. I'll give you one more, Victor. Here she is talking about J.D. Vance after the Republican National Convention, SOT6.

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This is one of the many reasons why most of us are absolutely delighted to see her get fired from this show. And it appears from MSNBC, tonight we believe will be here last night, a little walk down memory lane in Sat 1.

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This was after the RNC, Victor, where he had been introduced by his brown wife, Usha Vance, with whom he's made three children, proving he's not really all that obsessed with his white lineage going forward.

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So I wonder whether she went more left wing with that lunacy because when she first started out, she had nothing other than probably a natural leftist bent and her good looks and an obvious – inability to manage her surroundings. Now, this is another thing.

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Keith Olbermann talked about this on his podcast at one point, because I remember we ran the soundbite and he was talking about how he did get, he says he got Alex Wagner a job at MSNBC, but the problem was she could not read prompter or they wanted him to use her more, but she could not read prompter. So we actually looked into it and lo and behold, the man was right. Here's sod eight.

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If you're just listening to this, you have to look up on the YouTube, youtube.com slash Megyn Kelly, 38 minutes into the show and watch her meltdown. Clearly, there's a prompter issue. We all have them at times. You navigate through it and you try not to let the audience know by mouthing, what? Go and moving your arms around because you always know you are on camera when the red light is on.

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Just a little fun walk down memory lane. There wasn't a lot to choose from there, Victor.

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She's out the door, at least from the show. Joy Reid's out the door. Jonathan Capehart, say goodbye to your show. Jen Psaki moving up in the world. But here's the bottom line. It's a bloodbath at MSNBC. And the reason is, yes, they went too far left. I mean, not too far left, but just too far loon. They went too far loon. And the other reason is these ratings.

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These numbers that I was reading to you just a moment ago. These are horrid. These are truly horrid numbers. The overall... is terrible too. The overall, okay, in the 700s, Rachel Maddow gets 1.8 million in the night she's in. That's respectable. That's a good number. I mean, Hannity gets 3 million. So, but I'm just saying she's not a laughable number and everybody else is a joke.

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That was their prime time lineup on Thursday. So- They understand their business model requires an overhaul in order for them to remain on the air. I'll just give you one other thing, okay? Now they're pinning their hopes on Jen Psaki. Jen Psaki, Dora, who is... I'm sorry, but this is not a talented broadcaster. She wasn't a talented White House spokesperson, and she's not a talented broadcaster.

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And unlike a lot of people, like Mark Thiessen, who I found with his little clipboard, and at the beginning he was really nerdy and sweet, but slightly stiff. who had huge potential and has since realized it, she does not have huge potential. Trust me, I have an eye for this stuff. This stuff, I really do know. She does not have huge potential.

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She's already gone as far as she's going to go in terms of delivery. But here is what they found worthy of boosting to the main 9 p.m. Rachel Maddow slot, at least on the four nights a week Maddow's not there, slot 11.

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These left-wing channels like MS and CNN, too, for that matter, they don't want race to be anything other than essential. They refuse. Those of us who have been trying to make it less essential and follow the MLK, I see a friend, I don't see a black friend, they object to it. They say, now you're a racist if you feel that way. But, Megan, who's doing that?

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They don't want to hear from a Glenn Lowry because he doesn't look at himself like that. He doesn't look at us like that.

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And he's really being we would not normally say like, oh, she's getting replaced by two black people and a Hispanic person. But that's how they count everything. And, you know, full well of Joy Reid were replaced by a white woman. There would be a full on meltdown at MSNBC. By the way, there still might be. Like I say, there's going to be blowback in the next 24, 48. But there's now a report.

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that they've offered Joy Reid to come in tonight to do a final show. But just as I was coming to air, maybe this has since been resolved since, you know, 46 minutes ago, that they couldn't find Joy Reid. They hadn't heard from her. And they were still unclear on whether she would be showing up to do the last show. And what else does she have planned? Like, who knows?

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So I don't know about you, but tonight I will be... When does that show air? What time is that show on, Steve? It's on at... Well, it must be 7 p.m. OK, 7 p.m. because I have the ratings here. So I know what I'm doing tonight.

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And they know it's very dumb of them to allow it. They know. I mean, if I were running MSNBC, I'd say you fired. And here's the door. Thanks for your service.

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She's probably having her agent call NBC News right now because the news also hit today that Lester Holt is stepping down from his evening slot. She's probably thinking she's in the running. Joy, you're not. No, sorry, sweetheart. You're not. By the way, on the Lester Holt thing, it is interesting. He's stepping down.

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NBC Evening News, Nightly News has been losing to ABC with David Muir, unbelievably, for some time now by a couple of million. So that's not good for NBC, but they have nobody who's going to take on Muir. I wonder who it'll be. I don't really care because those shows are pretty irrelevant. But anyway, that happened. This just out from the New York Post.

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Canned MSNBC anchor Joy Reid was spotted wearing a fur-like coat and green baseball cap. as she ducked out of her green baseball cap, as she ducked out of her million-dollar Maryland home in exclusive photos taken by the Post shortly after the rabid anti-Trump host was ousted by the embattled network.

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All right, so she was seen, but we don't know whether she will be seen tonight at 7 o'clock on MSNBC. There's drama. We'll wait and find out more. It's a pleasure talking to VDH today. When we come back, we'll get to actual news as opposed to just the stuff that makes us happy. All right, don't go anywhere. Victor, thank you. We'll be right back.

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So Elon Musk once again sent federal workers and their media supporters into a tailspin this weekend by sending out via the Doge team an email saying, please name five things that you've worked on this week. It was not well received, I think it's fair to say. Cue 10,000 articles about how inappropriate he is and what an offense this was. I'll give you just one example.

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So we'll miss her a little, I guess. Victor, what do you make of the fact that even MSNBC finally had enough?

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New York Democratic Senator Andy Kim. To our public servants, I'm sorry you're being threatened. You deserve so much better. I remember how proud I was when I first swore my oath as a civil servant, honor of a lifetime. Remember why you chose to serve. Stay strong. I and many others will be right by your side. Somebody on X responded, don't you think you're being a little bit dramatic?

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I could easily respond to this email from my employer. I actually do go to my job and work. They're freaked out that his email was, what did you do last week? And he told them to summarize their accomplishments. On X, he said failure to respond would be taken as a resignation. He did not say that in the actual email, but I'm not sure this is.

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I'm so sorry for your loss, the honor of your job having been removed, Victor.

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So just so we're clear, Cash said that. You don't have to do it with the FBI. Pete said that at defense. You don't have to do it here. Tulsi just said that over the intelligence agencies. You don't have to do that here. And, of course, the judiciary, there was a mass email sent out to judges and judges' staff, which – that's appropriate.

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The Article III branch does not have to respond to edicts coming from the presidency, from – Article two. So it's fine that they did that. And the judiciary. But, yeah, you've got a bunch of people within the executive branch saying no.

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Mm hmm. I mean, honestly, you would think it was like he was like, come submit your DNA, saliva and blood. It was like, yes, what you did this week. What are five things you accomplished this week? They didn't want to answer it. And I'm sure in Elon said in his defense, what we're finding. is that there's so many federal employees who don't even check their email. They don't come to work.

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They don't check their email. They're out to lunch. They don't come to the office. That's one of the big things that they're trying to do, get a return to the office, because they don't believe they're working. I think they're sitting at home watching their stories on the taxpayer dime, and in a lot of cases, they are. So they can't fill out the list of five things.

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White woman tears happening right here, Joy. She was officially fired over the weekend because she's a racist, horrible news anchor with no ratings. And that's really been the truth for a long time. MSNBC is under new management, and I guess they decided to come to grips with reality. The truth is, this is very sad news for us as she's provided so much material over the years.

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Yeah, to be accountable. That's what I expect of my staff. That's what's always expected of me when I had a boss. And that's absolutely what we expect of our federal workers. Now, on the topic of accountability, this is actually really interesting. Dan Bongino said, was offered and accepted the position as number two at the FBI under Kash Patel, deputy director of the FBI.

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Dan Bongino, one of the greatest guys in America, who is former NYPD, former Secret Service, who has been on the pointy edge of the spear on calling down the BS attacks on Trump and with respect to the investigations against him and all that stuff for a long time now.

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To me, I'm amazed he took it because even though we absolutely could use him and he's definitely qualified, notwithstanding the fact that he hasn't been in the FBI, all the panties are in a bunch over there reportedly at the FBI. He's not one of us. Yes, exactly. Right. That's why he got the offer. But I can't believe he took it. I guarantee you he's making millions of dollars doing that podcast.

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It was very successful. And so good for him. It's a self-sacrifice. He's Definitely very close with Trump. He's had a religious reconnection or awakening post his significant cancer experience, which, I mean, he almost lost his life. And I'll bet anything he really felt called. So he's going over there. But this is I wanted to show you this. Some savvy. savvy Twitter user. Do we have it? Yeah.

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Found this soundbite of Dan in his last show on Friday. And I think he's doing a show today. So we'll hear more today, I think. Um, and listen to this soundbite in wake of what we, in lieu of what we now know.

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Well, I mean, this could be accountability day for Adam Schiff, because what's interesting about the Bongino comment is it's about what you're talking about, Russiagate and so on. What Adam Schiff got the preemptive pardon from Biden for was his work on the J6 committee. That was all J6 stuff. He did not get a preemptive pardon for everything.

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And so I do wonder what Bongino exactly will or possibly push for. Once he gets in there, um, like that Adam Schiff may be exposed on a lot of that stuff. Let's say hypothetically you decided he should be charged with, let's take one of the Democrats favorite charges, seditious conspiracy, where you, you work to overthrow your government or your president, right?

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You could maybe, maybe that's what they're going to try. I have no idea, but, um, I just looked it up. That's got a five-year statute of limitations. So we're, we're beyond that now. I'm, yeah, we're pretty beyond that, right? I mean, I guess it depends. Maybe not, maybe not, because if you look at, the full Russia gate allegations and how long they took to play out.

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I have to go back and look at the date of the Mueller report. Anyway, you're going to have some, some statute of limitations problems, but the FBI could certainly make your life unpleasant while they investigate such a thing. If there's any sort of colorable claim that we're still in time.

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And if you were a Democrat, Victor, you would say, let's do that because yeah, putting the person through the process and having their name dragged through the mud every day in the papers is the point.

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Why can't I wear the cornrows or have my daughter get cornrows in the Bahamas on a trip? But she can take my hair. She can try to imitate my hair. No problem whatsoever.

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Mm hmm. I I do want to spend a minute with you on Ukraine. But before we get to Ukraine, let's talk about Germany. So over there in Germany, the sort of more moderate conservative party has won their parliamentary elections. And the more conservative, more to the right, more MAGA esque party has gotten only 20 percent of the vote, which is very good for them.

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It's just they didn't win enough to actually win. And so unfortunately, the moderate Republicans over there or conservatives govern with the left in Germany. They're not going to form some coalition with the more MAGA-esque branch of the conservatives. They're going to form a coalition with the more leftist branch, which is unfortunate for our German friends because that's not what they need.

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And now already, the likely new German chancellor, Friedrich Merz, who is the leader of this conservative Christian Democratic Union, that's the moderates, gives an interview and says the following. It's an absolute priority to strengthen Europe as quickly as possible so that we achieve independence from the U.S. step by step.

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After the latest statements by Donald Trump last week, it is clear that the Americans, at any case, these Americans, this administration, mostly don't care about the fate of Europe one way or another.

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also said that intervention from Washington, a reference to Vance and Musk expressing support for AFG, the Alternative for Germany Party, that's the more MAGA-esque group, was no less drastic, dramatic, and ultimately no less outrageous than the intervention that we've seen from Moscow. What?

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People close to this guy describe him as direct and pragmatic, says the Washington Post, but also arrogant and thin skinned. So this does not sound like a friend to the United States. And he's offended by the messaging coming out of the United States, which has really been do your part, Germany.

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Donald Trump is the only American... Let me finish up domestically before I take us fully across the pond there. Trump in an epic battle of words and now in the courts with the main governor.

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It was a thing of beauty when at the governor's meeting at the White House on Friday, he called her out to her face on her defiance of his executive orders around gender and boys trying to play in girls sports. Watch this.

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It's perfect. Perfectly done. Trump, thank you so much. So thrilled you won. OK, that woman is Janet Mills. And I just want to say this. She's she's a far lefty on this issue and she's not in step with the people. He's absolutely right. But let me just tell you something. An executive order does have the force of federal law. It does have the force of federal law.

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And under the supremacy clause, federal law trumps state law when they conflict. State law reigns if there's no federal law. But if there is a federal law and there's a competing state law and they conflict, federal law trumps state law. So Trump is absolutely right in his constitutional interpretation there. And an executive order has the full force and effect of law.

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The only way of getting out of an executive order is if you can if you can prove that the president did not have the authority to enact it in the first place. You know that he is acting willy nilly and there's nothing in the Constitution that gave him the power to to issue such a thing. That's not going to be the case here.

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Title IX is a legitimate, duly enacted statute that the executive branch and the Department of Education has been interpreting since it was passed. And he said to her, Title IX must be complied with. Title IX, Biden's changes to it, allowing boys to compete, has been struck down. That is no longer of any valid force or effect, and all the courts will so hold.

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What's in effect right now is a title that protects girls, biological girls in sport. And the Department of Education, which now is Trump's, has interpreted Title IX to say boys may not play. And so he's 100% in the right legally. If he says you will not let boys play because Title IX doesn't allow it, it doesn't matter what her state civil rights law says.

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We already saw a very similar battle to this play out, Victor, in 303 Creative, where we had Colorado go in there and say our state human rights laws do not allow this woman to say she won't create a wedding website for people who are LGBTQ.

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And she went in and said, okay, I see that's what the state human rights law says, but the federal constitution protects my right of freedom of speech, freedom of expression, freedom not to say or endorse certain things. And that's right there, the same amendment that governs press and so on. And so the court said, right, the Constitution will trump this particular protection under the state law.

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That's what happened. That's what's going to happen in Maine. She knows it. She's looking to make herself a star. And she is, because if you Google her name and Trump today, you will see about two dozen fawning profiles on the woman who stood up to Trump.

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So they replaced her with two, three other hosts, two of whom are black, one of whom is Hispanic. And I guess they think that will save them. We'll see. They fired everybody. Her entire staff has been laid off, which apparently they found out about the cancellation from the trade mags or from from from the Internet. Same as the rest of us. Classic NBC move. There's such a classy group over there.

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How about Trump and the guts to call her out and engage in that battle? There won't be 24 profiles of Trump and how tough he is. Right. Has no qualms. A lot of men especially would not want to take on the female governor, get right up in her face like that. Not Trump. He does not give a fig.

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So she wants to go down swinging. Meanwhile, in her state, In February, February 18th, this is I think why it was on Trump's mind, a biological boy won first place in the Maine state championship for pole vaulting. The boy who now goes by the name Katie had a clearance over the week, sorry, over the vault, six inches higher than the girl who came in second. Here's the same boy.

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Here he was last season. two years ago, sorry, when he was tying for fifth place in the pole vault, now that he's a so-called girl, there he is atop the leaderboard and in the number one spot because he's gone from tied for fifth two years ago as a boy to winning first by a mile over the girls he towers over, both in the pole vault and on those podiums where they accept their medals.

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It's ridiculous, Victor. And this is what she's standing up for. Katie, who's actually a boy, that's who she's standing up. She doesn't give two shits about the women who are down in second and third place there, who worked their whole middle school, high school, elementary school to try to get as high as they could in pole vault and were doing great.

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And that second place finisher who would have had gold had it not been for her defiance of the Trump EO.

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But it is true that. Among the dumbest people over at MSNBC, she appears to have been the dumbest and the worst rated. We just pulled the ratings from Thursday night. On Thursday night, this is in the 25 to 54 demo. I mean, this is just unbelievable. Like, truly, when I was at Fox, a bad night in the demo would be in the threes, 300 and change. But it was often 600,000, 700,000 and change.

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agree. She made a fool of herself. She in, let's see this year per the Portland press Herald Maine K through 12 schools received 250 million in federal funding this school year, which is more than virtually any other school. Maine is especially dependent on the feds for its education money. $250 million, and she is going to lose it unless she gets in the line.

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And like every other politician, when she realizes that money's on the line, which means her job, she will be fired by the main residents if she loses $250 million in federal funding. She'll bend the knee, and I can't wait to watch her bend it.

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I don't care whether a court has to tell her she has to do it, or she just learns the hard way when she loses her money because the Trump Department of Education has just notified her of that there's an investigation now. This is the quote, quote, Maine would have you believe that it has no choice in how it treats women and girls in athletics. Let me be clear.

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If Maine wants to continue to receive federal funds from the education department, it must follow Title IX or we will do everything in our power to ensure taxpayers are not funding blatant civil rights violators. She could be in trouble with them. She could be in trouble with DOJ. She's definitely going to get sued and she's going to lose. And good.

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Let her serve as a lesson, Victor, for the others who are dangerously flirting with this same line.

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I mean, she used to be a federal prosecutor, a state prosecutor. She shouldn't have forgotten the law. It hasn't been that long ago. She knows perfectly well. That's why I believe she's grandstanding to get her name in the paper and have a girl boss moment. And the left wing press just runs with it. Like without I actually look through the press today.

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Like, did anybody do a fair job of actually explaining there is a supremacy clause that EO's would have supremacy over state law? And the only the only way out of it is the way I described. No, no. It's just read The New York Times right up of it. It's oh, she took him on. Look how tough she is. She's a tough girl. She was a prosecutor. It's ridiculous. What a disservice.

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And before we go to break, I just want to give you one other example of media malpractice in somewhat related news. There's a group of San Francisco people who are suing Trump over his executive orders as pertains to gender, DEI and so on. They think he can't issue these executive orders. So they're going to file a lawsuit and try to challenge him. Fine. Lots of people are doing that.

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In the demo... Those are now the overall numbers, the total audience numbers on a great number for most of cable news. Um, here's her demo number from Thursday night. 59,000. She was 4,000 away from slashies, which is, um, well, no 9,000, which is 50,000. She was 59,000. That's what she got in the overall demo.

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And it'll play out in the courts. But Axios reports on the lawsuit. And here's their headline. San Francisco community groups sue Trump over anti-trans executive orders. President Trump, this is Axios, ran his campaign on an incendiary anti-trans platform. All right. First of all, he never ripped on trans people.

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He said that he was going to stop them from competing in girls' sports, and he was going to declare actual gender realities. If you want to live your life as a man claiming to be a woman, that's your business, and Trump has never said otherwise.

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President Trump ran his campaign on an incendiary, it's not incendiary, the vast majority of the public is with Trump, anti-trans platform that promoted false claims about the community. Well, I was interested in that because I followed this issue very closely when Trump was running and thereafter. So I clicked on the little link in the Axios report.

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What were the, quote, false claims about the community that he made? And it's cited back to a 2024 Axios article about Trump's appearance at a barber shop in the Bronx and this exchange. Watch.

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That is 100 percent true. It is correct. And they know it because this is what Axios wrote at the time they wrote.

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Um, they quoted that thing and then they said, uh, the Trump Vance campaign pointed to a number of stories about policies that allow students to socially transition in the classroom without informing parents, but none of which supported his claims of operations being done, being conducted in schools.

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That's not what he said, that he was listing a bunch of stuff, the craziness that's happening out there right now. And then he made the separate point that kids are going to school as boys and they're transing them at school. It is 100% true. Just for kicks, David, Victor, I pulled just a couple. California mother claims teachers manipulated her daughter to change her gender identity.

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This is out in California. This mother, Jessica Conan, filed a lawsuit alleging that the school allegedly manipulated her seventh grade daughter to change her gender identity under the guise of their parental secret policy where teachers could counsel students about gender confusion and assert a new gender identity without notifying parents.

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This became law in California that you were allowed to do this in New York City, in the private and the public schools. It's the policy that the kid can come to school, David. He can say, I'm Denise, all day while there, take tests as Denise, be called Denise, then go home, David, again at the end of the day, get a report card for David.

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The parents have no idea when they go in for parent-teacher, they talk about David, have no freaking clue he's a Denise to everyone there. And it's policy. That's what Trump's pointing out and the nerve of Axios' dishonest hack paper and their DEI reporter, Shauna Chen, who's focused on race and justice.

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Her most recent articles are 14 Black Bay Area authors to add to your reading list and nine ways to celebrate Black history in the Bay Area. For her to call them dishonest is the height of projection.

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Good. That's where he belongs. And I mean, great. I mean, talk about Pyrrhic victory, right? To win, to win a lawsuit like that, which they won't, but to win it over the objections of your entire constituency. I mean, whatever makes you feel good at night. All right. Stand by. We're going to take a break more with VDH after this.

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I'd love to ask him what he thinks about the whole Ukraine scandal, because he's a true expert on war and our history. And he knows what he's talking about when it comes to this issue in particular. I'm Megyn Kelly, host of The Megyn Kelly Show on Sirius XM.

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Chris Christie, formerly governor of New Jersey, saying he wants to be, he wants, Trump wants to be Vladimir Putin. Could it be more complex than that? We'll ask VDH. Victor, your thoughts on Trump, the comments about Zelensky, about Ukraine allegedly starting the war, which is not, I believe at all what he meant.

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If you listen to Trump in context, he's made very clear he knows who started the war. But in any event, you know what the left wing media is doing right now to him. He's totally capitulated to Putin. He gave up the game before the negotiation started. He should have held back that Ukraine wasn't going to join NATO. J.D.

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Vance has been saying everyone knows that there's no point in pretending that that's still up in the air as a possible negotiation chip. But how do you evaluate what you've seen over the past two weeks on Ukraine?

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That's okay. That's their future. Rachel Maddow, she's their big star for $30 million a year. All you have to pull... is 144,000 in the demo, which I think is what we got. I don't even, I mean, like maybe overnight at 3 a.m. during a weekend program lineup at Fox, 144,000 now earns you $30 million a year on MSNBC. And then the next lowest, um,

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I only have 45 seconds still. We've got to go. But can you just put in context the way Trump talks?

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I feel the way I felt when Brian Stelter got fired. But he came back and you never know. I'm sure Joy Reid will wind up doing something where we will continue to get to respond to her absolutely insane POV. We're going to get into what it means with our guest today for the full show, Victor Davis Hanson. He's a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, author of the book, The Case for Trump.

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That's exactly right. So this freak out over like he's a he's a dictator. Would you calm down? Let's just watch and see what he actually does and see whether if, as Caroline Leavitt suggested, he might have Ukraine settled this week, which would be really remarkable. Victor, always a pleasure, my friend. Great to see you.

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Well, after Reed and Saki was Stephanie Rule with 88,000, Lawrence O'Donnell got 103,000. These are all terrible, terrible, terrible numbers. And that's one of the many reasons Joy Reed is out because she was not only a racist, very obvious and incredibly alienating, but she didn't rate Victor.

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All right. We are back tomorrow with Batya Ungersargan and more. We'll see you then. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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And I think she lasted longer than she otherwise would have given the fact that she constantly played the race card.

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Yeah, and we'll see whether, I mean, she's probably going to come over into the digital lane. We'll see whether she has any followings. So far, like Tiffany Cross, who also had this type of a program on MSNBC, which is just all about her hatred for whites. She decided to go independent. She's been an abject failure. Don Lemon's podcast, Abject Failure. So we'll see how she does.

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Here is just a couple of bits of background on her anti-LGBTQ past. Between 2007, Variety provided this good recap, and 2009, she blogged about then Florida Governor Charlie Crist, referring to him as Miss Charlie. tagging the Post's gay politicians, suggesting that gay men prey on young men in a way that many people consider to be immoral.

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She said she was repulsed by the film Brokeback Mountain and said, does that make me homophobic? Probably. In a 2018 statement, she claimed that the Post were fabricated by an unknown external party who'd gained access to her blog. She said she'd hired a cybersecurity expert. I remember this. This is so fun. She later conceded No evidence of hacking had been found.

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She issued a blanket apology, noting, quote, I genuinely do not believe I wrote those hateful things because they are completely alien to me. But I can definitely understand based on things I have tweeted and have written in the past why some people don't believe me. Also that because we have brains and we know.

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No one jumped on your blog to write a bunch of homophobic stuff and nothing else and then got off. Yeah. And then she claimed there was a fake FBI investigation.

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We have a little bit more because the other thing that kept her on the air was her serious case of TDS. I mean, she's a massive Trump hater. They all are on MS. But my God, this woman's unhinged a few examples.

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We continue to face uncertainty when it comes to the economy, with a perfect storm brewing as Social Security and Medicare hit a breaking point as the largest generation is hitting retirement. A smaller workforce means a smaller tax base. You pair that with our growing national debt and rising cost of living, and we could have a big problem.

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Go to hometitlelock.com, use promo code MEGAN25 to get 25% off your subscription and a free title history report to ensure that you're not already a victim. Protect your home and equity today. hometitlelock.com, promo code MEGAN25. The email heard around the world. On Saturday, every single federal employee received an email with the subject line, what did you do last week?

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What will this result mean for Ukraine and Russia and America? We'll stay on it and bring you the latest. And that will do it for today's AM Update. I'm Megyn Kelly. Join me back here for The Megyn Kelly Show later today, live on SiriusXM Triumph Channel 111 at Noon East, on YouTube.com slash Megyn Kelly, and on all podcast platforms.

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Employees are asked to respond with bullet points outlining five accomplishments from the previous week. On an ex-post, Elon Musk said failure to respond will be considered a letter of resignation. Notably, the body of the email sent to employees did not include that ultimatum. The move prompting massive outcry from politicians and media alike.

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elites rankled by a Doge email sent to federal employees asking, what did you do last week? And the possible beginnings of a power struggle between the Doge team and cabinet-level officials.

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Here's a little taste of what the Sunday shows sounded like, starting with Republican Senator John Curtis of Utah. He followed Mitt Romney in that seat on Face the Nation.

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Elon Musk defending the move on X, writing, quote, a significant number of people who are supposed to be working for the government are doing so little work that they're not checking their email at all. Mr. Musk says there is outright fraud in the system. The Doge team believes non-existent people or the identities of dead people are being used to collect paychecks.

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Reaction among Trump department heads is mixed. Sam Stein of The Bulwark, an anti-Trump media outlet, reporting on Saturday, basically every federal employee I've talked to tonight has said their agency head has encouraged them not to respond to the Musk email until they get more guidance. New FBI Director Kash Patel sent an email to his employees telling them not to comply with the request.

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The Department of Defense, too, sent out a similar letter to its employees. HHS, headed by Bobby Kennedy, sent an email on Sunday morning verifying the legitimacy of the email, urging employees to reply. But NIH, which is under HHS, writing to staff an hour later saying, do not comply. The federal government employs about 2.1 million civilians, The deadline for response is set for 11.59 p.m.

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tonight. President Trump clashing with Maine Governor Janet Mills at a session held by the National Association of Governors on Friday. As part of his remarks to state leaders, Mr. Trump called out Governor Mills for her state's lack of compliance with his executive order banning males from competing in female sports.

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President Trump challenges the governor of Maine for flouting his executive order banning men from competing in women's sports. And then his education department's civil rights office makes it official. Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt says peace in Ukraine could come as early as this week, as President Zelensky suggests his resignation as a potential offering.

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On February 6th, President Trump signed the executive order titled Keeping Men Out of Women's Sports. The order requires federal funds to be rescinded from schools and educational programs that fail to provide fair, female-only sporting opportunities. It means no boys on the girls' field and no boys in the girls' locker room.

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The day after the order was signed, the head of the Maine Principals Association, Mike Burnham, told a local Maine outlet, quote, "...the executive order and our Maine State Human Rights Act are in conflict, and the Maine Principals Association will continue to follow state law as it pertains to gender identity.

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The Maine State Human Rights Act provides protection based on gender identity, which means men who are pretending to be women and vice versa." The Maine Principals Association is the governing body overseeing student sports in the state.

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After the testy exchange at the White House, the Department of Education's Office of Civil Rights sent a letter to the Maine Department of Education informing them of an investigation into potential violations. Craig Traynor, acting Assistant Secretary for Civil Rights, releasing a statement that reads in part, quote, Let me be clear.

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If Maine wants to continue to receive federal funds from the Education Department, it has to follow Title IX. The Office of Civil Rights will do everything in its power to ensure taxpayers are not funding blatant civil rights violators. Governor Mills responding, quote, The state of Maine will not be intimidated by the president's threats. Maine received $250 million in federal funding this year.

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Ultimately, the courts will have the final say. President Trump bucking tradition, replacing the Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman General C.Q. Brown with Air Force Lieutenant General Dan Raisincane. Five other admirals and generals are also set up for a replacement, including Chief of Naval Operations Admiral Lisa Franchetti, the first woman to lead the Navy.

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The announcement posted to Truth Social this past Friday evening. President Trump writing, I want to thank General Charles C.Q. Brown for his over 40 years of service to our country. He's a fine gentleman and an outstanding leader, and I wish a great future for him and his family. General Brown replaced General Mark Milley as the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff in September 2023.

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Prior to serving as the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, General Brown served as chief of staff to the Air Force. President Trump nominated him to that position in March 2020. Upon confirmation later that year, the general became the first African-American to lead a branch of of the armed forces, thanks to Mr. Trump.

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Under President Biden, General Brown became the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, opposed with a four-year term that would typically carry through a subsequent administration. However, the chairman does serve at the pleasure of the president, who can dismiss the chair if he so chooses. Vice President J.D.

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And a surprise result in the German elections. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update. Thank you so much for watching. Here's the really scary part. Credit monitoring will not protect you from this problem. But I do want to tell you about Home Title Lock to protect your home and your equity.

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Vance pointing out on X, President Harry Truman fired General Douglas MacArthur, Mr. Obama fired General Stanley McChrystal. The second Trump administration is laser-focused on rooting out diversity, equity, and inclusion initiatives from all facets of the federal government, but especially the military.

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In a 2020 address to the Chicago Council on Global Affairs, General Brown stated, quote, I hire for diversity because they all bring a different perspective. That same year, he made public remarks about difficulties he faced as a Black man in the military.

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Upon taking office, Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth announced a task force focused on promoting merit-based, colorblind policies. Retired Lieutenant General Dan Raisin-Kane, President Trump's nominee to replace General Brown, first met the president in Iraq. The general captured President Trump's attention by telling him the U.S.

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could defeat ISIS in a week, far sooner than the two years predicted by other generals, a story Mr. Trump recounted on the Joe Rogan podcast.

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I like this guy. Raisin Kane entered the military in 1990. He served as an F-16 fighter pilot. On 9-11, he protected D.C. airspace. In addition to his service in Iraq, General Kane was also a senior military officer at the CIA. CNN reports General Kane is well-respected and seen among his peers as nonpartisan.

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General Kane will need a waiver for confirmation since he has not held roles senior enough under the law. and a stunner out of the FBI. President Trump announcing on Truth Social last night that Dan Bongino, former Secret Service agent and former NYPD officer turned popular podcaster, has been named as deputy director of the FBI under director Kash Patel.

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The president calling this great news for law enforcement and American justice. Coming up, potential for peace in Ukraine as early as this week and the surprise result in the German elections. We continue to face uncertainty when it comes to the economy with a perfect storm brewing as Social Security and Medicare hit a breaking point as the largest generation is hitting retirement.

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Alternatively, I can trade this for NATO membership if such conditions exist immediately so we don't have lengthy discussions. He went on to say he does not intend to stay in power for decades. This comes on the heels of criticism from President Trump about the suspension of Ukrainian elections earlier last year. The U.S.

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and Ukrainian president spent much of the last week trading barbs about the negotiation process with Russia. President Trump visibly growing more and more frustrated with the public complaints of President Zelensky as the U.S. works toward a peaceful resolution. NATO membership is a non-starter for the Trump administration in the approach to peace talks

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Russian President Vladimir Putin sees the expansion of NATO to Russian borders as an existential threat. Hungary, Germany, and more have also expressed concerns over admitting Ukraine into NATO. According to Article 5 of the treaty, an attack on one member is an attack on all. Admittance into NATO requires unanimous approval from all member states.

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On Saturday evening, Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt delivered an update on negotiations from outside the White House.

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As European leaders discuss sending their own troops as a post-war security guarantee, the U.S. is taking a different approach. Treasury Secretary Scott Besson outlined some of the details on Fox Business' Mornings with Maria yesterday.

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An economic security assurance rather than U.S. boots on the ground. The results of the German parliamentary elections yesterday marking a significant shift to the political right, but not all the way right.

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The center-right Christian Democratic Union slash Christian Social Union, a united coalition of two parties, winning about 29% of the vote, wresting control from the Social Democratic Party, which won only 16%, a historic low. They want to cut taxes and red tape. They would advocate for stricter immigration laws and faster asylum processing.

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They aim to abolish a law that seeks to get rid of fossil fuel-based heating systems in German homes, a very moderate right wing, similar to establishment Republican types in the U.S. In second place, the AFD, Alternative for Germany, earning just over 20 percent of the vote. The rise of the party formed in 2013 is of great concern to many on the left and in the media.

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Elon Musk endorsed the party, calling it the last vestige of hope for Germany. The AFD is similar to the MAGA movement in America in some ways. Originally formed to oppose European financial bailouts, the party really began to rally its staunch opposition to Germany's open-door refugee policy established by Chancellor Angela Merkel in 2015.

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Despite the fact that the center-right party and the AFD now together control a combined 49% of the electorate, they are not likely to work together. In Germany, the moderate right and the left typically work together and refuse to cooperate with what they call the far right, a fact for which Vice President J.D. Vance slammed them on their home turf just over a week ago.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, and happy Monday. We begin today with news from the Vatican. Pope Francis dead at age 88. It was kind of shocking to wake up to, even though we knew he was not in good health. He had had double pneumonia and been hospitalized for some five weeks in mid-February.

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He, as you know, has been getting hit by the courts left and right for not providing these people enough due process. And even with Trump's, you could call it, you know, cut corners, he's only gotten 11,000 out in February. I haven't seen the March numbers, but you can assume it's around there. So let's say it's double if you add March in there.

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So let's say it's 22,000 that we've gotten out, but I think it's slowed down in March. All these sanctuary cities trying not to work with Tom Homan. You've got these whistleblowers calling up the illegals saying Homan's coming. We saw some of that. And keep in mind, Tom Homan said that they were going to start with the worst first.

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And that means those who have committed additional crimes beyond illegal entry are overstaying their visa. Well, how many of those are there out of that? Call it 18 million. ICE told Congress last year it was about not quite half a million, 435,000 illegals who have criminal convictions who are not yet in U.S. custody. All right. So we're starting with the worst of the worst. Worst first.

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Four hundred thirty five thousand here illegally. And maybe this since Trump took office, we've got now what? Let's call it twenty to twenty five thousand. You round up for the couple of weeks of January and April that we have going here. Let's just call it twenty five thousand. That doesn't even get us down to four hundred hundred thousand.

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of the illegals who are still running around who have also committed crimes. And you haven't even cracked a million of the 18 million. This is not a rip on Trump. He's trying. Tom Homan is trying. Tom Homan's jumping up and down saying, I need more money because I don't have the resources to do this. And on top of that, I don't have the facilities to store them, even the numbers he's getting.

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There's no place to put them. Just today, we have this long article about how now the ACLU is complaining that the ICE facilities aren't nice enough, that some female migrants are having to sleep on mats on concrete floors. Okay. They're complaining that some of the lunch tables don't have enough seats. I mean, really? Then get them out. Go home. You know where they have seats and mattresses?

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Back in your home countries. Get out. Okay, but it's all on us. It's all on Trump. It's all on Tom Homan. It's all on them to find them all, overcome the sanctuary city's objections, overcome these mayors who are undermining them, overcome the whistleblowers, whatever you call them, the leakers who are telling illegal groups when Homan's groups are coming.

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And now biggest and most importantly, overcome the ACLU. which at every turn is going into court and challenging the deportations, saying you can't expand expedited removal. You can't use the Alien Enemies Act. And they just had a huge victory. Late Friday night into Saturday at 1 a.m., the Supreme Court in a 7-2 ruling, unsigned, but we know that it was Thomas and Alito who were in the dissent,

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stopped him from deporting people under the Alien Enemies Act. And buses that were seen leaving the ICE detention centers, said to be full of Venezuelans, had to stop and turn around and put them back in there. We're only at maybe 25,000 deported out of 18 million.

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And now you've got these courts saying they want due process that looks like it's going to be akin to the due process you get when you're charged criminally. How much due process do we have to give each one of these people individually, individually?

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We know due process afforded American citizens as 18 million of them came in as some half a million committed crimes against us, stealing from us, raping our women, murdering us along with our children, child molestation. Did they have due process? Did the American people have any due process at all? No. Now, for each one, we have to have due process before we deport them.

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Wow. Pretty extraordinary. This Pope was elected Pope in March of 2013 after the shock resignation of Pope Benedict. No, no Popes resign. They just don't do it. The first Pope Benedict, sorry, Francis from Latin America. First ever. Can you believe that given how Catholic Latin America is? He was our first Pope from there. And Pope Francis immediately jolted energy and enthusiasm into the church.

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to El Salvador or anywhere else. And it's starting to look like just a peppercorn will not be enough to steal a phrase from another area of law consideration. It's starting to look like we're actually really going to have to provide hearings in each case, allow these people... They're upset. There are notices that they could challenge it weren't in English. Who... That's your problem.

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Like now, what are we going to have to have a translator for every single language? If we got like somebody in there who only speaks Arabic, we got to make sure it English is the official language of the United States. You don't understand your language too effing bad. So the Supreme Court, for now, has shut down the use of the Alien Enemies Act.

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And the ACLU does nothing but file challenges to every single attempt to deport these people. And Pam Bondi's got... up to her neck, up to her chin now in ACLU legal filings, not to mention the offense that Trump is trying to play legally with things like trying to get, you know, open anti-Semitism to stop on campuses like Harvard. Okay, that's where we are today.

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So, Kevin, it's not exactly a legal debate I'm looking for with you. It's I want to talk about the frustration of this scenario as I've just laid it out and what how we're ever supposed to get ahead on any of this. You know, when the the beat down against everything they try to do is constant. constant.

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And there are so many enabling judges who will work with the ACLU, same as enabling media who will work with his left-wing critics on the tariffs, which I know you defended him on. It's just at every turn, these same establishment types that got us into this mess are doing their level best to keep us there.

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He was a Jesuit. He was a little bit more progressive, and this got a lot of people excited. Many people thought the church had gone too hardcore, though we stood by some traditional things like an all-male papacy and celibacy, among other things.

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You know, If if the shoe were on the other foot, you know, and the Trump administration or Trump's supporters were using lawfare to stop the Joe Biden agenda on green energy at every turn, we'd be getting all these discussions about how if the Supreme Court gave them a decision, Trump, they're illegitimate. Right.

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But now now suddenly they're fine with these courts and probably even this Supreme Court, because they've gotten these late night rulings saying, OK, we're going to stop it. I don't I think we do have to abide by the U.S. Supreme Court ruling. I think that's very clear. You cannot delegitimize the U.S. Supreme Court. There's a rule of law in this country and it must be upheld.

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But we're we're heading toward a serious crisis, Kevin, where 56 percent of the country wants all of these illegals out. And when we're only some 20,000 into the deportations. it's basically been shut down. The main tool for deporting most of them, the most dangerous, has been shut down.

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And that's what's going to push us toward a crisis where the executive branch doesn't listen to the Article III courts.

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The church's stance on abortion, which people are kidding themselves if they want the Catholic Church to amend, but this is what we hear from young progressives within the Catholic Church. Okay, good luck with that. Maybe we could get... you know, I guess you can still have priests who come to the church married.

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That's what they're fighting over right now. He started with the worst. He's starting with the ones he understands to be in gangs. And the left is trying to pick every single one whose gang affiliation they question. Oh, was he really in the gang? Oh, you didn't have all the proof that he was in the gang. He's here illegally. He can be deported. Like, I don't even know.

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We're wasting time trying to argue about the extra crime because it's better. It sounds better. We don't have to prove any of that. You're here illegally. You can be deported. Goodbye. That's it.

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Like you can become a priest after having been married, that is at least not having like children, but you cannot enter the priesthood and then get married. That's just, anyway, here's Pope Francis's first appearance as Pope on the balcony of the Vatican. Well, it's always a sight to behold, right? He was born Jorge Mareo Bergoglio in Buenos Aires, where his mother hoped he would become a doctor.

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You ignore the Supreme Court, you become a Democrat. You become AOC. We can't. We can't let them make us become the things that we can't stand, the ridiculous morons who have been talking about packing the court and delegitimizing the court. That's not going to fly. We on the right must abide by the U.S. Supreme Court rulings

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period while being extremely critical and doing what we can to find the right legal cases to make sure the right cases get tested.

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Can we talk about the tariffs, Kevin? I don't understand them. I never purported to understand them. I, I hear, of course, all of the Trump deranged people tell me he's an idiot. He's doing it all wrong. Mark of volatility. Then I hear his defenders say he's playing the long game. It's chess. You don't get it. I like, I don't know.

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I will tell you this, a dear friend of mine who is at a very important hedge fund who I really do trust, uh, said that everything is so unpredictable that people are at their wits end who, who are in the market that, and that's one of the reasons why we're seeing such volatility. Like they can't stand the uncertainty and the unpredictability.

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And that dovetails with what Maria Bartiromo was asking Trump about face to face. So can you speak to that, the uncertainty and where are we with the tariffs? Have, have, have we settled in a good place right now as we're in like a pause for almost everyone, but China and renegotiating?

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There was a gal who was on Shark Tank not long ago and you did not invest, but she had an idea for a silicone placemat for like a baby's crib. I mean, not crib, high chair. And And she wound up getting this project off the ground and she has her product made in China. And the New York Times' daily podcast called The Daily featured her last Monday. We pulled a shot. She's trying to be there.

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They're using her as their real life witness on how bad these Chinese tariffs are hurting Americans. Here it is. Take a listen.

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But just before his 17th birthday, he paused in front of the Basilica of St. Joseph and later recounted he, quote, felt like someone grabbed me from the inside and took him into the confessional. Right there, he said, I knew I had to be a priest. His mother evidently was upset. He would not become a doctor, but he said, quote, I'm going to study the medicine of the soul. Can you imagine?

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Then they go to the- So in other words, you are over here as an American company. You come up with a design. You do all this R&D to make sure it's a safe product. It's an effective product. And then you bring it to market here and in China. And here you'd be protected by certain copyright laws or whatever you're using to protect your IP. But over there, you don't have the protection.

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So they just knock it off and they start selling it for cheap. That's what you're saying, that there's no respect for your IP. Right.

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And then he went on to become the Pope. It's incredible. Pope Francis moved the church in a leftward direction, no question, and away from some of the more divisive issues within the church. As I mentioned, he did not focus that much on abortion, but he didn't change the stance. Homosexuality shifting its emphasis to global problems like climate change, poverty, and he was very big on migration.

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Whenever you hear somebody talk about this, who knows China, who knows she knows Chinese culture, they say he'll never call never like they, he cannot lose face. I mean, any communist country leader would be this way. And that includes him that they just can't, they can't, he can't lose face. That's the last thing he'll do.

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And now Trump has to find a way of going to him, but you know, Trump's kind of like that himself as well.

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He clashed with President Trump over Trump's immigration policy, saying before the 16 election that a person who thinks only about building walls and not of building bridges is not Christian. This is why he was controversial amongst, in particular, a lot of Christians here in America who tend to be more conservative.

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Okay. Let me ask you about, uh, the tariffs and the effect on some of our international friends. Uh, up in Canada, we'd all, we were all watching Pierre Polyev, who's a conservative, who was the guy eating the apple, uh, in that great clip where he was just stone cold against the liberal journalist trying to get him with the gotcha questions. And I think we were all kind of rooting for him.

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And then came the tariffs and suddenly he was losing a race he was winning and now is like something like 20 points behind in the polls to the liberal.

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And so it looks like, and some are directly stating, that it's the tariff war we're having against Canada that's going to lead to Justin Trudeau 2.0 when they elect their new prime minister instead of doing what they need, which is putting Pierre Polyev at the top. Are you Canadian? Do you have dual citizenship? You've got some connection with Canada.

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The Trump campaign responded by pointing out that the Vatican is surrounded by walls. We saw that exact thing happen a couple of weeks ago, where once again, he was ripping on Trump's policies when it comes to immigration. And once again, we had Tom Holman coming out and saying, my response as a lifelong Catholic to this pope is that the Vatican has walls. Why is that?

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The actual date of the election is 4-28. Carney's up by six points. He has erased what was a 20-point lead by Polyev. That's a very interesting theory. I can't wait to find out whether that's actually what's happening. It would be a miracle to see conservative leadership there again.

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But his odds weren't quite as long. I mean, I don't know, but you may be right. I don't know Canada that well, but I'm certainly hoping you're right. It's a pleasure to see you.

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Yeah, they should be because, my God, you think about, you know, what was happening with the swim meet up there, the otters where they have 50-year-old men pretending to be women swimming against and changing in the same locker room as 12-year-old girls. Like, somebody needs to take Canada by the helm, and it needs to be a strong, right-leaning leader. Kevin, talk to you soon.

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I mean, actually five years since schools closed in an effort to curb the spread of COVID, a policy that had devastating ramifications that are still being felt to this day. Well, my next guest, David Zweig, has a new book out tomorrow that is a thorough account of the faulty decision-making process behind the school closures. It's right here. I have it in hand.

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And the book is called An Abundance of Caution, American Schools, the Virus, and a Story of Bad Decisions. A Story of Bad Decisions. Man, that's perfectly put. David's here to break it all down for us. Welcome back to the show, David. So one of the reasons why I wanted to talk to you was you're the guy. If I think back on the whole COVID misadventure,

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Ahead of the 2024 election, the Pope declined to say whether people should vote for Trump or Harris, merely urging people to choose the lesser evil, according to their conscience. But in a letter to U.S.

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who were like, there's a couple, only a couple of people who all along were like, that's bullshit. No, that's not true. No, I've done the underlying research and they're wrong about that too. And for me, you were number one. Alex Berenson was another, he was great. I'm sure I'm missing one or two, but like for me, you were it. And so I know, like, we don't like going back over COVID.

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I mean, we knew... We knew he wasn't doing that well, but it seemed like he was past the worst of it and maybe was getting a little better, or at least on the road toward getting a little better. And then Cardinal Kevin Farrell somberly came out this morning and stated at 7.35 this morning, the Bishop of Rome, Francis, returned to the house of the father.

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People don't like it. I think it just brings up too many triggers. It's like, I wish I hadn't gotten that vaccine. Some people feel like I wish they hadn't gotten it for their kids. They wish they had fought harder against the nonsense. You know, we all kind of feel like we're human lab rats now walking around with weird stuff inside of us thanks to these vaccines. Fucking Fauci, sorry.

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So that we do need, but we do need an accounting of what was done. And even Team Trump just last week changed the covid.gov website, the one that YouTube's referring everybody to. It's supposed to be like, oh, that's where like Fauci and Deborah Birx are going to give us all of their nonsense. Now it's officially Team Trump saying it was a lab leak. That's obvious. They're saying all this stuff.

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which is going to send everybody who depended on that into a meltdown. But that's kind of what you're doing here, which is like, now that the dust is settled, let's just count the score and let's figure out how we made so many terrible decisions and maybe how we can not do that the next time. So let's just start with this.

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Of all the terrible decisions, and there's so very many, what was the worst one? What stands out?

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bishops in February, Pope Francis wrote that mass deportation, quote, damages the dignity of many men and women and of entire families and places them in a state of particular vulnerability and defenselessness, unquote. Now, look, this is the problem.

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That's the picture on the front. That's right. I want to show that to the audience again. Did your kid ever get subjected to this where they have these weird little barriers on the desks that did absolutely nothing? But my kids had this too.

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So you can't see anybody next to you. Yep. They had that too. And you, and you launched a podcast called silent lunches, right? A sub stack.

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Yeah. Called silent lunches. Cause they had to sit here like during the lunch period, not speak to anybody unless their breath infects somebody.

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Because not only is that the church's official stance, but the church has been participating in getting immigrants here and then finding them housing and helping them stay here, irrespective of the fact that they're here illegally. And Pope Francis didn't have to deal with that. And it's caused a lot of us in the Catholic Church to wonder what exactly we're donating toward on Sunday.

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School closures caused real damage. Real damage. And look, they damaged all kids across all stratospheres, all classes, all whatever. But the kids who are at the lowest end of the socioeconomic scale got hurt the most. They didn't, their parents didn't have private tutors. They weren't already at these toity, you know,

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private schools where their learning level and the challenges and the opportunities were probably advanced to begin with. So some loss would only bring them down to average. They were already struggling, just struggling just to hit average and they haven't made it back. That's, that's clear from everybody who's taken an honest look at it.

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You put, you reveal in this book that loss, I mean like all of it may have originated with the idea of a 14 year old girl.

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It really does. It's one thing if you want to help support your priests, make sure that they're well taken care of, make sure your church is well taken care of, make sure it's got flowers on the altar for Easter mass, but funding illegals coming into the country, they're all, they're not all upstanding Catholics.

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That's how you became a star. That's really because you started publishing articles after having done that. And those of us who just knew instinctively that this is not right started paying attention. And then, you know, if you find a real data hound, it's a gift. A couple of things I wanted to follow up on what you just said. Why? Why? Wasn't the media more skeptical of these claims?

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And, you know, a lot of us who are Catholic, but lean right felt this tug of war going on between the Pope's messaging and the What he wanted us to believe were, you know, deep Catholic teachings and what we understand as Americans who are watching our citizens murdered in the streets by these people to be true.

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You write about the American Academy of Pediatrics. By the way, the book is called An Abundance of Caution by David Zweig, spelled Z-W-E-I-G. You write about the American Academy of Pediatrics and it's recommendation that schools be opened. It was July of 2020. And it was saying, when we get back to September, these schools need to open. That's what's best for children.

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In other words, they're hacks who behaved like hacks, but there should have been a higher... an establishment that was devoted to a higher purpose that didn't buy into it and enable it.

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Anyway, look, it's on a day like this, you pray, you pray for the loss of the pope and for a very obviously holy man who was the leader of the Catholic Church, who had enormous challenges on him and pressures on him. And, you know, the church is very political, too, especially at the top. It's such a really interesting organization.

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And it makes no sense anyway. I mean, the United States of America, for the most part, has way more land and way more expansive facilities than France does, where they're on top of each other.

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I still am struggling to figure out why, because if you look at, take wokeism. You know, Europe is as woke as we are. They're gone. And truly, like, the UK is gone. So is France. I mean, Ireland, gone. Italy's not as bad. So I was thinking maybe it's just this knee-jerk safetyism that we've embraced here in the United States now. Your safe spaces, your trigger warnings.

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You can't discuss certain things. You can't say certain terms. But they're just as bad as we are over there when it comes to that stuff. So they're, I think, just as sort of safety conscious, and I mean that in the most negative sense possible, as we are. So I don't get it.

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Why over there were their authorities still willing to look objectively at data, and over here ours weren't, and also the entire media establishment wasn't either? Right.

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And then also you look at the messaging and you try to understand how he could so misunderstand somebody who is our leader here, our political leader here. and the reason President Trump is so devoted to getting rid of these people who Pope Francis just looked at as vulnerable and defenseless. Well, you know who is vulnerable and defenseless? Lakin Riley. You know, it's like,

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It makes perfect sense because you look at what happened with the Great Barrington Declaration in the spring of 21. Yep. in Jay Bhattacharya, now the head of NIH. Praise God.

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Right. And Martin Kulldorff. And I'm forgetting the name of the female. Yeah. Right. From our top, top universities. They come out with this. And what happened immediately? Immediately they got smeared by Fauci and Collins, like immediately as fast. fringe that like there was absolutely nothing fringe about them. They were as establishment and respected as a doctor can get in the United States.

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And I'm sure that they were the example, you know, maligned. Everybody else is looking. If you can do that to them.

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Because Fauci had his hands in everything. Fauci, he controlled all the money. I didn't realize that before COVID, that how many of these university research programs are funded by his group.

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I wish I could have gotten to talk to the pontiff about it. I really do. I wish I could have had an interview with him where we talked about things like that. I'm sure he would have had nothing but empathy for those killed by these illegals. But that's the problem in part with the Catholic Church and its approach toward this issue. No church is going to satisfy its constituents across the board.

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The book is called An Abundance of Caution, American Schools, the Virus, and a Story of Bad Decisions by David Zweig. Keep going.

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Couple of things on it. Um, I feel like there's another element to the journalistic failures, and I think it has to do with elitism. I think it has to do with the fact that you look up and down that lineup on CNN and MSNBC, and all those people are millionaires or close to it, and they were enjoying the pandemic. Their kids were home.

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This one didn't. Pope Francis didn't. But unquestionably, a good, decent, honorable, holy, loving man. And President Trump, for his part, was very gracious in the wake of the news today, posting on Truth Social, rest in peace, Pope Francis. May God bless him and all who loved him. Now, a public viewing for Pope Francis could take place as early as Wednesday. And then a conclave.

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They had a tutor or they had some private school that was basically taking care of them. They knew they'd be fine. Their lives were easier. They got to go to work via Zoom. They got to be out east in the Hamptons with all their friends. They got to start drinking wine at 1 p.m. instead of 4 p.m., which is a big sacrifice to wait. And they didn't want it to get back to normal.

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And that's why it's so infuriating when you saw those Chicago public teachers unions, union teachers, dancing, using the dance to try to show us how inappropriate it was to send them back into schools. Like these are totally able-bodied, mostly young females.

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Yes, just dancing about to try to show they're upset about having to do their damn jobs. And that's why I really think they're right up there. I agree with you, Fauci and Birx. They're up higher. Fauci's number one. And by the way, to your point about the fact that these people at the CDC, they weren't going into the office. I was at FDA last Thursday with Marty McCary and we were walking around.

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It's a huge complex. It's in Maryland. It's not in D.C., And even to this day, it's largely empty. And he's right now saying, everybody get back in here. It's 2025. It's been five years. They peaced out thanks to COVID. They were never made to come back in. They were all loving it. There was a built-in incentive to say, it's not safe.

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This is such a big deal. Whenever this happens, I don't know if for our younger viewers, you may not have seen it. But I will never forget when we were on the air at Fox and Shepard Smith said that he He said the Pope had died when the Pope hadn't died. That was it. I guess I will forget because my details are somewhat fuzzy. But we were waiting.

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We need to keep this rolling in the name of safety because they were loving it. These teachers, they don't usually get to teach from home or do the stupid Zooms. That's easier. They're in their pajamas.

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They were too busy pumping stories. Like two teachers have already died of COVID thanks to the reopening of the schools. Meanwhile, then it would come out. They died of COVID that they got in their communities before the school had even opened. Like you're trying to suggest the children gave it to them, but that's how stories were being styled and presented by places like CNN. That

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All across the media. I mean, the New York Times is still that I mentioned that Web site that Trump has got up now that covid.gov. And they're still even after the New York Times wrote that ridiculous. We were misled on covid a couple of weeks ago, like a month ago, saying, oh, the authorities, they misled us.

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They had this long column on it, even even though they're now coming to terms with they were misled. they're writing an article about that website being like, oh, there are a lot of experts, a lot of experts who still believe this was natural origin. They believe that this did not come from a lab. Like they can't let go of their little darlings, David.

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It was like the Pope was sick and we were waiting to see if he had died. Anyway, he got that wrong and it turned out to be a huge deal. We covered these things at Fox News like they were presidential elections. And so they're going to go through this process now, the conclave, where they choose his successor. The 120 cardinals will gather.

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I will defend Trump on that. It's just going to go away because I have a doctor who is an infectious disease doctor. That's just my primary care physician happens to be. And he's one of the most respected infectious disease doctors in the country. And that's what he said in the beginning, too.

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The history of this kind of disease suggested that when you got to the warmer weather, it would kill the virus.

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Yeah. And that's what a lot of people believe. And I think that's what Trump was advised early on. Obviously, Trump wasn't just making that up. He was getting that from doctors. And then, of course, things changed. But I remember when he said it being like that dovetails exactly with what my doctor said. And I didn't I didn't think anything of it.

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You know, now now in retrospect, it's used against him by his detractors. But at the time, it dovetailed very well with a lot of what we knew. All right. Stand by. There's more to go. Again, it's called an abundance of caution with the yellow tape. It's actually quite well done. by David Zweig. Don't go away. Spring is here and summer is around the corner.

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They say this typically begins between 15 and 20 days after the papal office becomes vacant. So call it two weeks from now or thereabouts, we can expect... to see, they had actually a good write-up today in the Daily Mail about it. 120 cardinals behind closed doors. If you saw the movie Conclave, you know, where the Pope turns out to be intersex, spoiler alert, then you have seen a refresher.

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my guest today, David Zweig, the author of An Abundance of Caution, a new book. It's not really about COVID exactly. It's about how deeply we were betrayed by our It's got all the lessons so that we can fight them better the next time. I mean, there were some of us who were fighting them and some people who fought them at every turn.

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But it was very hard because part half the battle was trying to figure out what was true. And you just stayed to an evidence based approach. Now, the problem in doing that is that you had a whole government apparatus that didn't like your information. And even when you, David Zweig, were citing the CDC's own studies like on masking and how it didn't do anything in schools, they didn't listen.

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They buried the studies. They moved on. They tried to diminish people like you. and I was mentioning during the break, the great movie Contagion, which I really enjoyed with Gwyneth Paltrow and Matt Damon, which was made years ago, but clearly they used the CDC's blueprint for what they would do in a pandemic, was really telling. And they even had this like,

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sort of citizen journalist played by Jude Law. Now he wasn't like you or Alex Berenson. This guy wound up hawking supplements and trying to make money off of the pandemic. But they did sort of use him as like the one detractor, the one lone voice pushing back. And in that movie, it's very interesting because they demonize him, right? Like you shouldn't believe the doubting Thomas.

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because he's a hack who's trying to make money off of you. He's got some angle. He's the one person you shouldn't listen to, right? You should listen to the authorities.

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And that's what they try to do to Alex Berenson. That's what they try to do to you. They try to do to Tucker. Right. Like try to just ignore or in some cases actively diminish or fringe or ban on Twitter. In Alex's case. Right. They didn't like these contrary voices or the Great Barrington people like fringe.

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Try to tamp down on them so that people looking for good information either couldn't find it. It had been stifled. It had been censored or had like a sense of. worry in taking it in from the outliers because we've been told this is a fringe person. This is the weird Jude Law character I'm not supposed to listen to.

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There's no official cause of death released as of now, but as I said, he's been suffering from these chronic lung issues. And then beginning in February, he was in the hospital for some 38 days with these respiratory issues. Amazingly, you've seen this maybe by now, yesterday, just yesterday, he appeared on um, in, in his wheelchair in like the back of the Pope mobile. I don't know what that is.

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but this article pointing out some differences in real life, you will not have, um, somebody coming up and briefing the media while the process is underway. And in real life, anybody who did that would face excommunication for that offense. You're not allowed to talk to the outside world while the Cardinals are in the conclave.

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It's bad enough when we are seriously hurting children, when we're not being allowed to say goodbye to our loved ones who are dying in nursing homes alone and isolated.

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And then came like the final insult, which was the deceptions around the vaccine and the total unwillingness to discuss the actual side effects that were happening to people, including most importantly to me, the myocarditis, because that was killing young people. That was hurting young people.

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You know, everybody's life matters, but it's, there's a different value in somebody who's 90 versus somebody who's 15. And they were seeing actual myocarditis heart infections happen to teenage boys as a result of the vaccines. And you were basically not allowed to talk about it. Even now, even now, YouTube's going to slap a warning video on this video because I said that. And it's a fact.

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And yet they still, still want to bill it as though it's somehow misinformation. I always thought that if there's something that wrong with the vaccines, the vaccine makers will come back and fix it. They'll own it and they'll fix it. These are the biggest, most rich companies. vaccine or drug companies in the world.

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I never anticipated that they would just deny, deny, deny, deny, and let people suffer and even die.

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Um, nor are they allowed to make packs with the other Cardinals who are voting, um, Nor, they say, would a dead pope ever be allowed to be swarmed over by priests, nuns and officials, nor laid out in his pajamas.

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I only have a minute left. I got to interrupt you. Final thoughts on Fauci and what his legacy in all this should be. Well, he's pardoned.

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funded EcoHealth Alliance, which very well may have been behind the research that caused the pandemic. He appears to have lied repeatedly to Congress while under oath. That's why he needed a pardon. And yeah, he's villain number one in my view. But there's so many to choose from. Don't forget to buy this book.

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They say in the real world, the Chamberlain of the Holy Roman Church declares a pope to be dead in the presence of the papal master of ceremonies and a handful of other members of the papal household. Nine days of mourning are then declared in which the body of the late pope will lie in state in St. Peter's Basilica. It will be at least 15 days before the conclave.

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It's called An Abundance of Caution, American Schools, the Virus and a Story of Bad Decisions. David Zweig, Z-W-E-I-G. Great to see you. Thanks, Megan. Okay. Tomorrow on the show, Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace. There's a combo.

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And then the Cardinals, though, are no longer physically locked in a building until they've made their decision, but they will stay at a guest house within the Vatican's walls known as St. Martha's House, where they'll have the services of cooks and housekeepers plus two doctors, one of whom is a surgeon. And, you know, many of these are old guys.

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And then they will walk daily in their blue cassocks and red sashes to the papal palace or the Sistine Chapel, where the voting will actually take place. They will not be allowed to read newspapers. It's like being a sequestered jury. Access radio, TV, or the internet. They'll not be allowed to send or receive any kind of messaging.

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two are from the outside world and they could be there for some time. The longest in history lasted 34 months. Good gracious. Back in 1271 in modern times, none has lasted longer than the five days it took in 1922. The conclave to elect Pope Francis lasted just two days. This is from this daily mail piece. Um, no firm procedure for the multiple ballots, which are likely to be held.

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The conclave will determine its own procedure. If a candidate receives two thirds of majorities, a majority of the votes, that should be it. And then when they have the next pontiff, they will blow white smoke up the chimney. Black smoke indicates no decision has been made. Ah, good luck to them. This is a big decision. We've never had an American Pope, but I'm voting for Cardinal Dolan.

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I hope they get behind him. It'd be great to have, we had one from the Americas, this Pope, Latin America. We haven't had an American. Would be amazing if we did. And Cardinal Dolan is just the best man you could ever hope for, for the job. An inspirational leader. It's brilliant.

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It's just I mean, all the knowledge you could ever want in a church leader and a man of the people, somebody who can inspire the working class and elites alike, somebody who knows how to talk to people in a language they can understand and just an all around dear man. He's, you know, we've got Catholic radio on Sirius XM. He's, he does a show every Christmas. He has one.

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I was on it a couple of years ago. Wouldn't it be amazing if we had a Pope who had a Sirius XM radio show? It'd be fantastic for Sirius. They'd be so psyched. In any event, prayers with all of the men who will make this new decision and with the one who becomes the next pontiff. It's a big responsibility.

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On the subject of illegal immigration, I'm going to bring in my guest in a minute, but I just want to start with this. What an incredibly frustrating series of events that we have been through legally over the past six weeks since Trump started implementing his reforms and the ACLU became his co-president in batting them down one by one. It is one step forward, two steps backward.

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for the Trump administration when it comes to fulfilling the people's wishes to deport not a few, not some, but all, all of the illegal immigrants in the United States right now. That's what the people want. Harry Enten took this on late last week on CNN, you know, their data guy. Let me just show you the numbers, okay? Look at SOF 15.

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I'm not exactly sure the vehicle, um, on Easter Sunday. Look at that. It's kind of amazing in St. Peter's square. And, and one of the last people to meet with Pope Francis was vice president JD Vance pretty incredibly, um, The vice president had a brief meeting with the pontiff yesterday where the pair exchanged Easter greetings and gifts. Mr. Vance telling Pope Francis he prays for him daily.

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OK, so it's a clear majority who want all of them gone, all of them, not just the ones who committed additional crimes, but all of them. They want all illegal immigrants in the United States to be deported. Now, that number, how many is that? It was said in 2020 or so to be about 10 million, between 10 and 11 million. That was 2020 when Trump left office.

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How many have come in in the four years since? You go to the Center for Migration Studies, they'll say it's only 1.7 million were added, so that we're only up to 11.7 million. Bullshit. Bullshit. Bull. That grossly underestimates the millions who swarmed into this country under Biden. He was letting in 300,000 a month. 300,000 a month, people.

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It's estimated by House Republicans and Customs and Border Patrol, which is in a position to know, to be closer to 8 million under Joe Biden. 8 million. OK, 10 in 2020 plus eight under Joe Biden gives us almost 20 million, 18 million total in the country. Illegals. You don't think that has an effect on the American economy? So Trump's got to get rid of 18 million people.

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That's what a clear majority of Americans want, 18 million. How are we doing? You've seen Tom Homan out there doing his level best. ICE is out there doing their level best, and they're doing yeoman's work at the southern border. The trickle back into the country has been stopped. It's all been stopped.

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It's been stopped as much as you can stop without having an airtight wall, which he's also said he's going to work on. But in any event, they're doing a great job now stopping the flow. But how are we doing on the deportations, on the removals of those already here? Well, in February, for the month of February, Trump deported just over 11,000.

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You've never had an administration more devoted to rounding them up and shipping them out. He is doing everything within his power. He has expanded his rights of removal when you encounter somebody at the border, like immediate removal. He's expanded that to basically cover all of the United States. He's using the Alien Enemies Act.

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And for Americans anxious about what comes next, Eisman offering a word of reassurance.

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And that'll do it for your AM Update. I'm Megyn Kelly. Join me back here for The Megyn Kelly Show, live on SiriusXM Triumph Channel 111 at noon east, on YouTube.com slash Megyn Kelly, and on all podcast platforms.

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After years of pandemic-era remote learning exposing widespread educational failures, FBI scrutiny of outspoken parents at school board meetings, and growing concerns over the politicization of classroom content on race and gender, then-GOP candidate Donald Trump surged to victory in 2024, campaigning on a promise to overhaul the public education system and restore parental rights.

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In March, President Trump taking the most significant step yet toward fulfilling that promise.

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The order directing Secretary of Education Linda McMahon to, quote, take all necessary steps to facilitate the closure of the Department of Education and return authority over education to the states and local communities. Critics decrying the move, accusing the administration of dismantling public education, and abandoning federal support for vulnerable students.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Monday, April 21st, 2025, and this is your AM Update.

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President Trump says it's time to pull the plug on the Department of Education. What does the future of American schooling look like if Washington isn't calling the shots?

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We spoke with school choice advocate and executive director of the Educational Freedom Institute, Corey DeAngelis, who says the Department of Education has failed in its mission and it is beyond time to shut it down.

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The DOE operates on an $82 billion budget, funding Pell Grants, Title I aid for low-income schools... special ed under the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act, Title IX enforcement, and federal student loans.

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The National Education Association, one of the country's largest unions, criticizing the administration's decision to shutter the department in a statement, quote, "...the DOE is a critical champion in enforcing federal statutes prohibiting discrimination and ensuring every student has access to an education that will help them reach their full potential."

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Dismantling it means defunding programs that feed, educate and protect our most vulnerable and underserved students and leaving many families fearful and anxious and communities reeling. Mr. DeAngelis says that argument doesn't hold up, saying the department is failing the very students it's supposed to protect.

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President Trump's executive orders redirect federal money to the states where local officials will have greater control over how it's spent. President of the American Federation of Teachers, Randy Weingarten, another huge union, claiming states will funnel the money into private school voucher programs at the expense of public education.

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Critics call it chaos. Supporters call it correction. Inside Trump's high-stakes tariff strategy and why the U.S. might just hold all the cards. Coming up in just a moment on this special Easter Monday edition of AM Update. Tax day may have passed, but for millions of Americans, the real trouble is just the beginning.

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They'll use it for vouchers. Mr. DeAngelis responding to that argument.

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Fully abolishing the DOE would require an act of Congress, an uphill battle with a slim Republican majority in the Senate and a 60-vote threshold. to overcome the filibuster. But Mr. DeAngelis says Democrats' stance on education could cost them seats and predicts Republicans will keep chipping away.

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Decades before entering the political arena, billionaire businessman Donald Trump sounding the alarm on what he called unfair global trade practices.

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That was back in 1988. Under the second Trump administration, the White House seeking to rebalance global trade practices with President Trump's Liberation Day tariff plan. Markets seesawed on the news, plunging at the announcement, then soaring to record highs after the White House declared a 90-day renegotiation window. Supporters calling it a high stakes 4D chess move.

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Critics saying President Trump is risking a global trade war and gambling with the economy.

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We spoke with Steve Eisman, former senior portfolio manager at Neuberger Berman, who correctly predicted the 2008 financial collapse. Mr. Eisman says the U.S. is well poised to succeed in trade negotiations.

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President Trump betting on this strong position to force America's trading partners back to the table, reshaping trade policy away from the free trade optimism of the 1990s. President Bill Clinton in 1993 celebrating the North American Free Trade Agreement, or NAFTA, and opening the doors to globalization.

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Mr. Eisman says Mr. Clinton was right about GDP growth, but dead wrong about what it would mean for American workers.

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Vice President J.D. Vance rising to national prominence after writing Hillbilly Elegy, a memoir of growing up in a town hollowed out by free trade and globalization.

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At the time, Mr. Vance praised for offering a candid account of NAFTA's failures and for helping explain the political rise of Donald Trump, who campaigned in 2016 on a promise to restore dignity to the nation's forgotten men and women. Many of those same critics now attacking President Trump for demanding a new trade deal with Mexico and Canada.

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Mr. Eisman argues the backlash stems less from policy disagreements and more from deeply entrenched economic dogma.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. How happy are we? Today, we're broadcasting from Washington, D.C., where our prayers have been answered. It is official. Joe Biden is gone. Kamala Harris is gone. Everyone is cleaned out of the White House press office.

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Who looked amazing. I mean, honestly, after Melania, she was his close second on best dressed. Yeah, she looked incredible.

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Usha was my one. She was your number one. She just is the nicest person. I've met her. I spent a little time with her. She's genuinely kind, warm, friendly. Like she's perfect for JD who is also nice and like kind, but I think she's sort of a softer place to fall. You know what I mean? Like she's just that sort of loving.

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And he's also like more of a fighter. right? She's like the brainy Supreme Court clerk, brilliant lawyer, but also this loving mom. And like every smile, look at that smile. She's got the thousand watt smile. She looks so happy. She was so cute when she was holding their daughter Mirabelle with the The three Band-Aids on her fingers? Yes.

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You know, we don't know why she had the three Band-Aids on her fingers. Sucking her thumb. Well, some kids, yeah, she was sucking her thumb, but some kids actually like those for security blankets. I have a friend whose daughter loves Band-Aids. They just make her, it's like a, it's like a lovey for her. Or maybe she just gets her fingers hurt a lot. I don't know what's going on.

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But it was adorable. And it was so... Any mom is like, yep, been there. It's such an easy gimme. Sure, you want to wear them? You're good. Yeah. Anyway, Usha was a star. Okay, let's get to the executive orders. And then we got to get to what Joe Biden did. Because the executive orders are truly a thing of beauty. I'm so happy about these.

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I mean, there are going to be legal challenges on these within two minutes, some of these in particular. But let's just talk about what they are. All right, this is a summary. On the border... Close the border to asylum seeking migrants. Resume border wall construction. Declare an end to birthright citizenship. Now, that one's going to be tricky because it's in the Constitution.

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And just before he pardoned five, count them, five members of his family with about 15 minutes to go in his presidency, Mr. Biden, for the last time, using his power to protect those around him. Yeah.

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Trump thinks that there's a loophole in it because it says you have to be subject to the jurisdiction of the United States in order for this to apply. And there's a legal argument that you're not if you're just born here to somebody who's here. That's going to play out for the first time. You know, once and for all, conservatives have been wanting to have this fight and they're about to get it.

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Involve the U.S. military in border security. This too is going to draw immediate legal challenges because we have strict limits in our law for how our military is used. Declare migrant crossings across the U.S.-Mexico border to be a national emergency.

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The Wall Street Journal noting that this would allow Trump to unilaterally unlock federal funding for border wall construction without approval from Congress, etc., designate drug cartels as global terrorists. That CBP1, this app that Biden's been allowing these illegals to use, offering 40,000 supposed appointments a month.

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We're supposed to allow the border to be open because these people are gonna go through this orderly process by using the app and then show up to their asylum hearings. it hasn't worked at all. It's we've opened the door. We let them loose. They don't show up to the asylum hearings. We never follow up.

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And even if they show up to the asylum hearings and we say you don't get asylum, they just leave and we don't arrest them. We never even try to track them down. It's a nightmare. That's over. It's no longer available. And existing appointments have all been canceled right on. Okay. Gender and diversity. This is the one, hold on.

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Cause I have, I have a better description of it on my phone than what I have here in my and I want to make sure I get this one right. Standby. Okay. All radical gender ideology, guidance, communication, policies, and forms are removed. How great is that? There is now a government-wide recognition of the biological reality of two sexes. Clearly defines male and female.

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Woman is defined as an adult human female. Hallelujah. Controversial stuff. It never should have been hard, but it was thanks to Biden Harris. Agencies will cease pretending that men can be women and women can be men when enforcing laws that protect against sex discrimination. Great.

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The executive order directs that government identification like passports and personnel records will reflect biological reality, not self-assessed gender identity. let's see, ends the practice of housing men in women's prisons and taxpayer-funded transitions for male prisoners, ends the forced recitation of preferred pronouns in schools and in government settings.

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I mean, we did Hunter in advance and then he did brother Jim and the sister and the in-laws and basically anyone named Biden other than his daughter, Ashley, who, as far as we know, has a substance abuse problem, but no criminality in her life. OK, so at noon, his presidency did come to an end per the U.S. Constitution. Trump's began.

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Your school can no longer make you say... he is a she when you know he is a he. And you don't have to say it's my religion or I don't want to, right? They're just not allowed to do that anymore thanks to this Trump executive order. It's a thing of beauty and I cannot wait. Okay.

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Tariffs and trade, directing federal agencies to begin an investigation into trade practices, including trade deficits, unfair currency practices, counterfeit goods, and a special exemption allowing low-value goods to come to the U.S. tariff-free. Assessing China's compliance with the trade deal. Okay, I'll skip some of that, but it's a stump on tariffs. Energy, okay.

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There's some great ones in here. Declare a national emergency on energy, which could allow Trump to unlock powers to speed permitting for pipelines and power plants. Order the federal government to roll back regulations that impede domestic energy production.

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signal and intention to loosen the limits on tailpipe pollution and fuel economy standards, which Trump refers to as the electric vehicle mandate, roll back energy efficiency regulations for dishwashers, showerheads, and gas stoves, open the Alaska wilderness to more oil and gas drilling, eliminate environmental justice programs across the government which are aimed at protecting poor communities from excess pollution,

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It's not on here, but one of the ones in the original list is pulling the permits on all federal lands for those terrible wind farms. That is huge. Let me tell you, down where I go in the summer in New Jersey, this is a huge issue for us. They are going to put in this huge wind farm like nine miles from shore. where they will ruin the Jersey coastline. You will hear them.

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They will torture the sea life, including the whales. One of those things breaks, and you cannot... The ocean gets ruined. The toxins that fall in, that's what happened to Martha's Vineyard in Nantucket last summer. It is... absolutely huge that Trump said no more.

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And the only reason these were about to go through in New Jersey, among other places, is because the feds gave the permit and Trump just pulled it. I love that. It's all so good. He will sign an executive order reinstating service members who were unjustly expelled from the military for objecting to the COVID vaccine mandate with full back pay. Oh my God, I'm feeling euphoric.

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He will end remote work policies for the federal workforce, and he will order many agencies back to the office four to five days a week. And he's renaming the Gulf of Mexico the Gulf of America and reinstating the name Mount McKinley to our highest mountain, which is in Alaska, because they changed the name thanks to wokeness under Barack Obama. God bless President Trump. What's your favorite?

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And take a listen to the reaction from Trump supporters in the Capital One Arena here in Washington. It's where I can't remember what they're called, but the hockey team and the basketball team play here inside. Thanks to the extreme colder. It is freaking cold in Washington as the new president entered the Capitol building on Capitol Hill. It's very cool.

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He said in his post inaugural address to his address in the overflow room, some people wanted me not to announce them all right away. I think he said this. I either said it there or I read it. But yeah, he said they didn't want me to announce it all. They wanted me to trickle it out. I said, no, we're doing it all.

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Yeah, you know what? You're right. So much goodwill, momentum. It's a good idea. People are like, yes, change. What's your favorite in there, Em?

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You mentioned where the American people feel, so here's a couple of numbers to support that. There was a New York Times Ipsos poll that just came out on the gender, well, no, on a few of these issues. First of all, on mass deportations, 55% of the American people support them. for all illegals, all of them, not some, all of them, 55%.

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63% support deportations for those who arrived illegally in the past four years. 63%, two thirds of the American public wants you out if you got here in the past four years and a majority, healthy majority, 55, wants you out irrespective of when you got here if you're here illegally. 87% support deporting illegal immigrant criminals.

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And then on, let's see, on like foreign engagement with like the foreign wars, 60% support less foreign engagement. On trans issues, here we go. Listen to this. They said, do you agree or disagree? Society has gone too far in accommodating trans people. 77% agree. Accommodating. They even rigged that question. Right. They even rigged that question.

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Trans women, agree or disagree, trans women should not be allowed in women's sports. Trans women, which is a fake term. That's men pretending to be women. Should not be allowed in women's sports. 79% agree with that. 79, 94% of GOPers, 67% of Dems. I mean, that's how the hell are they going to challenge Trump on this executive order? How the hell are the Dems in the Senate?

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going to stop a vote on the Protection of Women and Girls in Sports Act that just passed the House, like they did when it passed the House under Biden's administration. It passed the House under his administration, it got to the Senate, and they stopped it. But now, yes, the GOP controls the Senate, but you need 60 votes to get cloture on a vote.

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You need 60 senators to be able to have a vote on it. And good luck. You're telling me that all those Dems are gonna say no in response to 67% of their voters saying, we're against this. It's going to be a huge issue. And then last but not least, minors should not be able to get puberty blockers, agree or disagree. 71% agree they should not be allowed. 90% of the GOP, 54% of Dems.

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We've won on that issue. We've won. That battle's over, whether they know it or not.

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Can you can we talk about that for one second? Doug and I were watching this this morning and we were talking about just how extraordinary it is that Trump is our president. that he became president, that he's now been returned to the presidency. We were talking about just how awful Barack Obama was and how radically he changed the country with his far-left progressive agenda.

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And not with Congress. No, no, with his pen and his phone. Remember? His pen and his phone. And, I mean, it was infamous. Like, he was more dangerous than... Any politician that's followed because he was so affable and he had his folksy way of talking and, you know, people were like, I like him. And they felt good about themselves. They're voting for the first black president.

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So it was like he had all his momentum as his agent of hope and change, like a great slogan. And they felt good about themselves. And then he did things that should make you feel good about yourselves. You know, when it comes to changes in race, changes in the gender approach, he's the reason we're doing these sex changes on these prisoners and so on. Yep. A hundred percent.

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And then you get Trump, the wrecking ball, you know, crass and impolite and a fighter. And America's like, we want him. And that was just never understood. They thought it was all about the working class, which it was in part, but it was also like, we're We don't want any of this radical radicalism.

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So what you're seeing there is that they're not even they're not anywhere near the action. Right. The president's walking into the rotunda on Capitol Hill a couple of miles away. And so there were people who were in that room. Then there were people who were in the overflow room inside the U.S. Capitol building.

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And when Trump lost because he behaved badly around January 6th, the left thought it had a new mandate with Joe Biden to just triple down and then some on Obama's radicalness. And that's why he held his head in shame as he exited office today.

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By the way, I watched a little bit of CBS this morning, which is when I heard Gayle King, like, where are the people of color? While he's rolling back the DEI stuff because of his mandate to do that. Yeah, right. She's obsessed. I mean, there's no getting her off of that horse. But on CBS, that was how they were spinning the immigration reform. Like,

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oh, well, the Republicans aren't going to get behind this, you know, because they're Chamber of Commerce Republicans and they like these workers and so on. Like, yes, there is still a small contingent of the Republican Party saying that. But this is Trump's Republican Party, CBS. Great job just trying to stir up trouble, you know, like find a way of saying he's going to fail.

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And then these folks in the Capitol one building, which is the sports arena, were overflow overflow. And you would have thought they were right in front of him. given those cheers. The enthusiasm in this town right now is palpable. I mean, palpable. And here is the moment it became official when Chief Justice of the United States, John Roberts, swore in Donald J. Trump as the 47th president.

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Trump's not going to fail with these immigration reforms that he has a mandate from Dems and Republicans. Look at those numbers we just went through.

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Yes, this is like the point I was trying to make yesterday at the Capital One Arena because they asked me if I would speak about culture. Like they give you an assigned topic so that they don't have the same topic being discussed over and over.

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They know I'm into that, right? So they're like, oh, shit. Sorry, I lost my ears. They said, can you talk about culture? So I did. So, I mean, this is obviously an issue near and dear to my heart. But this is one of the points that I was trying to make is that, you know, the DEI.

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battle has been hard fought and it's gone on for years now, but it took a lot of human sacrifice to get to the point where we're all, I mean, not the entire country, but the majority of the country's back in the same place of, we don't want this. We, we object to race essentialism. We object to the trans mania. We object to the trans activists who are the most ardent bullies in America right now.

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And I, I went through some of like the, the people who sacrificed themselves to get us here. And we, I think they cut a sound by, can we listen to some of that? I don't have my ears in, but like, let's play it. And then you had Oprah herself, Oprah. She'll interview you if you pay her a million dollars, too.

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Yeah, it's a low, low fee of a million dollars to sit down with Oprah Winfrey, apparently. That's what the Harris campaign paid her production company, she says. And for that, you know what you get? You get Oprah yelling at you. Come on, Harris! Why are you doing that? Calm down, madam. My favorite was the preacher accent. Joy cometh in the morning. And she wasn't wrong about that.

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It came at about 1.22 a.m. on election night when the election was called for Donald J. Trump. All of you wearing the MAGA hats. It used to be an act of civil disobedience, right? Yes, sir. Defiance of a registered order that didn't want to hear from you. But wearing that hat for much of the past eight years has been an act of courage, too. Those battles, one after the other, have been fought.

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And this anti-DEI momentum has been built brick by brick. Thanks to all of you. And you who listened to Donald Trump, who, when a reporter asked him at a presidential debate in 2015 about some of the language he used, responded by saying, What I say is what I say. And if you don't like it, too bad.

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So I thank all of you for being part of the Trump movement and for bringing these changes upon us and for bringing Donald Trump back into the office. And a reminder before I go, stay strong. We haven't won the war. We're winning. We've won a bunch of battles. But he's going to need all of you every step of the way. We're going to have to be patient. We're going to have to steel our spines.

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Do not bend. Never bow. What I say is what I say. God bless you. God bless President Trump. God bless the United States of America. We finally figured out how to lower the screen in here so that we're not in full sun. That was my point, right, is that it's been a lot of people.

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And I went through in the longer speech of examples like Jody Shaw of Smith College, who I think, you know, I don't know that she ever was able to rebuild her life because she picked to fight with them over what they were doing on DEI and they tried to ruin her life. And there's so many beyond her.

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Did you see that poll that showed that 67% of people under the age of 30 are enthusiastic about Trump's term, about Trump taking off? More than any other age cohort, the young people are the most enthusiastic about Trump. And I do believe all of this is very much part of it.

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Best of luck. Uh, but I mean, by the way, the free beacons hiring she does, she's not as cold as she sounds.

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I mean, people like Chloe Cole, who she I had her in my draft. I just forgot to mention her.

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Yeah. I mean, she's she's a detransitioner, as as we call people who, you know, go down that path and look at like the physical changes to her. They're on. They're irreversible, as Abigail Schreier said.

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Oh, Sundar Pichai is there, who runs Google. Mark Zuckerberg. Mark Zuckerberg. Ladies and gentlemen. Exactly. No, I mean, it's like all these guys, it's great. They're coming on board because they bent the knee to Trump. I'm totally in favor of it. But they are absolutely hashtag part of the problem on how we got here. Never mind what they did on COVID. I know we don't talk about COVID.

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We just don't talk about COVID anymore. I don't know if you knew that. We really don't talk about it when it comes to Anthony Fauci, who's now free as a jailbird just out on parole.

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We got to get to that. But in any event, they were hashtag part of the problem. So we'll see whether they change their tune now. We'll see whether on YouTube now I can say they're mutilating the bodies of children in the name of this pernicious ideology and whether YouTube will allow my video to live and not be demonetized because you're not allowed to say that word on YouTube. But I've said it.

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Now Trump is president and we'll see. Let's do, we'll go back to Trump too, but let's go to the pardons because this is just egregious. Everybody under the sun. I mean, the J6 committee members, his entire family, right? Mark Milley and Dr. Fauci. And by the way, the pardons go back, especially Fauci. Go back to 2014. It starts in 2014 forward. What the hell was he doing in 2014?

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It's because he funded gain-of-function research. It's because he was behind the problem that caused the damn pandemic.

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Let's see. Hold on. We have in SOP 15, I think, some of that. Yeah, here's Biden, December 2020.

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Wow. Shaking the hand of outgoing President Joe Biden, hugging his family. There was a moment there where Chief Justice John Roberts got started a little sooner than the family anticipated. So Melania had to step in sort of at the very beginning of the oath. And then you saw Trump's children come sort of like, oh, it's time, you know, like we got to get over there.

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You're not? Really? And they were all saying it. By the way, Adam Schiff was on camera. He got a pardon because he was on the J6 committee. Liz Cheney got a pardon. And all the staffers. Yeah, all the staffers. Kinzinger. Right. He was just out two weeks ago saying, I wouldn't take a pardon. By the way, they don't have to accept them.

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There's a question about whether it's valid if they don't accept it. Right. Yeah. Right. Like there's I mean, there's a legal debate on whether you must say I accept. And I think most lawyers say, yeah, you do. You have to say I accept it in order for it to be valid for you. And there's but I really think so.

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The Fauci one is the one that has me most ticked off because I really do think Fauci lied repeatedly to Congress. And Rand Paul certainly thinks that and I think was preparing to go after him. And I don't know what else Fauci did. I mean, we've never been able to find the smoking gun evidence that he actually was behind the COVID virus, the wanted issue.

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But he definitely funded gain of function research, which is very dangerous, including in the Wuhan lab through this Peter Daszak group. And we just were never given the information to close that last loop. It would be wonderful to get it under the Trump administration. None of these guys can plead the fifth if they're called the four Congress. So that's the silver lining.

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They all have to testify fully. They cannot plead the fifth. And, and by the way, it doesn't stop any investigations whatsoever and, or civil lawsuits. And you know what else it doesn't stop state lawsuits, state prosecutions, state prosecutions. You can be prosecuted by the state. A federal pardon does not. That was Trump's problem. Remember? Right.

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We were saying like he could pardon himself, but only for the federal crimes, not for those state prosecutions in New York or in Georgia. Well, guess what? Dr. Fauci and J6 committee members and General Milley, you're all in the same position. And, you know, somebody was pointing out online. Let's be real.

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If they were prosecuted by the feds in Washington, D.C., not a one would be convicted of anything, given the jury pool here. Nothing. So, I mean, it's galling. I agree. But realistically, they weren't going to get convicted. Biden made the point that they wouldn't be convicted.

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I know, but in a way, but to your original point. So. what did we really lose? Cause we weren't going to get convictions of any of those people. And yet now Trump has cover to pardon all of the people who actually are in danger in this jurisdiction. All of them.

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And Donald Trump is the 47th president of the United States. J.D. Vance, the vice president. Right now, it happened. The day began at St. John's Church where Donald Trump, his family, and incoming top officials worshiped and demonstrated that class and grace are back in the White House. Look at Melania, this incredible hat, absolutely stunning.

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And Tiffany Trump was sort of in the middle. And it was kind of nice. Joe Biden kind of said, come over here and stand here. You could go a different way with it. You could go a different way, but I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt. He was just being a nice guy. The crowd inside the Capitol included Trump's predecessors, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and Barack Obama.

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And I'll tell you the one thing that jumped out at me was Mark Milley, who issued a statement saying—hold on a second. I have it here. Okay. He said, Really? How are you any different from Donald Trump, who's 78 years old and really didn't want to spend the time he had left fighting for his freedom in four different jurisdictions? Right.

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All of these Democrats, I assume I don't know what Milley is, but he certainly sounds like a Democrat. He behaved like one at the end of Trump's term, want such sympathy for themselves. Like, poor me, the evil Trump. They have absolutely no empathy for him or take no responsibility for what they did, what they've been doing to him for years now.

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You know, you can't say these people who are obsessed with race, you cannot save them from themselves. Like, I don't think they can be cleansed of this illness. The ones we're going for are the ones who are faking it just to keep their jobs and go along. Yeah. The CEOs, right. Exactly.

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Or like those guys who work at the banks on wall street, who just kind of went along with, no, I definitely want to hire another woman for sure. Even though The three weakest people on my team happen to be female.

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I mean, yeah. Like, we are great at many, many things. We don't have to be great at driving. No, but honestly, that's why there was such a backlash to Caitlin Clark owning her white privilege when she was recognized as Time's Athlete of the Year. What I heard from everybody, my audience, my friends, my colleagues, was... We don't have to do that anymore.

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We want a whole presidential election and a House and a Senate so that we don't have to do that anymore. And that's why Trump is just such a breath of fresh air. He comes in and he's like, you know, he dropped some swears yesterday at the Capital One Arena. I think he said bullshit. You know, he infamously called Ted Cruz the P word.

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We have to talk about the village people. What a moment. Somebody tweeted out. It was a Democrat. We've officially lost the gays. Like the gays have officially lost the village people. We lost those five gays. And I didn't realize that the village people is like the globetrotters. We're like, I guess they just keep getting replaced because those guys were not.

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Not Michelle, because she's not a phony and she hates him and didn't want to be there. We don't know why she didn't come, but of course, that's why she didn't come. The guys who made all the news and got the attention of all the news media were the tech titans.

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The village people came to fame in the 70s. They're not 80. These guys are young. They were so entertaining. My favorite was the Native American, but it was tight. It was tight. It was hard to pick a favorite. And Trump dancing... With the village people to YMCA. This is the most iconic. That's the Doug Mills New York Times shot.

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Doug Mills is a genius because that is gold. That will live forever. And for the listening audience, it's the Native American with a huge headdress coming down in the back of him and the huge Y, you know, his arms up in a Y. And Trump in his like signature dance move, like the fists out and his hip out to the side. And like the Indian guy looks so happy. Like he just looks so jubilant.

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When you think about what's happening on our college campuses, most of them do receive some federal money. How are they going to stop this? Because the executive order can only apply to schools that accept federal money. You can't control state schools. How is it going? How are they going to deal with this? Like the women's studies departments that have completely sold out to the trans lobby.

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Elon Musk of X, Jeff Bezos of Amazon and the Washington Post, Mark Zuckerberg, who created Meta, which owns Facebook and Instagram, Tim Cook, CEO of Apple, and more, many more. Sundar, the guy who runs Google. They were all there as the president, delivered a message about unity, about optimism, and about always now putting America first.

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How are they going to handle the fact that they can't insist on preferred pronouns, that there's an executive order saying there are only two genders. He should have said two sexes, but fine. I'll give him, I know where he's going. I don't think he wrote it.

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No, I don't think he did either, but it'll be like how these things actually get implemented and the pushback legally and culturally and as a practical matter. are still a big question mark for me. That's going to be a big storyline over the next coming weeks and months as Trump actually gets to work. And of course...

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the immigration thing is going to take top slot on the news channels because already today, already today they are showing and circulating videos. Have you seen it of the so-called asylum seekers, you know, alleged asylum seekers being told CPB one has been shut down. You cannot use that app anymore. And the media is showing them crying like, Oh, but I want to get in.

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I'm sure you do want to get in. I'm sorry. It's not your country. We have no obligation to let you in. And this process has been so disgustingly abused by so many others before you. You can't come in. You're going to have to go someplace else. There are people from your country who are in line, who you're trying to skip.

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I wonder, is there definitely not in favor of closing the border or finishing off the border fence?

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He said today at the after speech, immigration was the reason. It was the number one reason. Hmm. He said, I know I know, you know, inflation was important, too. But he's like immigration was huge. And like he said, there's only so many times you can tell people what the price of bread is. But, you know, you see what's happening at our border.

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And look, you know, the reason I think somebody like, you know, Tucker Carlson, who's obviously a big fan of Trump, is so devoted to him is he is. expects to see that border closed, like his top surrogates and closest people to him and including his family members. They want that border closed.

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and continues to be. And that's why the other piece of this is Tom Homan, who's heading up the deportation force. He said that he, there were, there was a report that he was going to start in Chicago, but the administration is being cagey about where they're going to start because they don't want all the illegals to flee from one city to the next. I think they want some element of ambiguity.

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Like we used to have in Taiwan. Um, But I bet they're starting right now. I guarantee you Tom Holman is either at his desk or in the field working on deportations at this moment. That guy was chomping at the bit. And I do expect the media to make a huge sob story out of this. Like, oh, poor... But they're setting the stage. You know, Holman and others now have been re...

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As you will see in this soundbite, no clapping nor any standing ovation, however, from now former President Joe Biden or any of the Democrats sitting behind Mr. Trump, even when he discussed surviving an assassin's bullet.

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jiggering the narrative to there's no such thing as family separations the families are welcome to leave with the illegal it's not our obligation to leave the illegal here so that he or she can stay with their family who may or may not be here lawfully that is that's the choice of the family and i heard i think it was christy noam say at her confirmation hearing

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When somebody gets arrested and they have to go into prison, we don't talk about family separation. It's like, right, you're going to have to leave your family because you did something wrong. Like, that's on you, madam or sir. And I think the media is going to... They're not going to embrace that narrative.

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They're going to be playing the heart strings like, oh, look at the poor family separations and the rest of us who have hearts and may feel sorry in watching some of these videos have to remember why it's happening. Yeah.

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Yeah, what it used to be. My team has pulled a soundbite that they think we want to see. It's Rachel Maddow talking to NBC's Jacob Soboroff, who is very- He's terrible on immigration. He's very, very woke on immigration. Let's watch.

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So he said no change. Like, it's fine. She's waiting for him to be like, families are being ripped apart. He's like, it's the same. We're good. Yeah.

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He's such a jerk. He is one of the guys who was on my set the day of my blackface comments and couldn't throw me under the bus soon enough. He was like, Back it up over her, 10 times over. Semi. I was like, F you. Sending you back to Mexico.

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So I hope you lose in your defamation case, and I hope you have to stay at the border a nice long time so you can meet my friend Tom Homan and see what he's doing. We're going to take a quick break, and we'll be back with the EJs right after this. Life is busy, and finding the time to shop for clothes can feel impossible.

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Okay, that was my favorite moment of the whole thing. Yes, Mirabelle was adorable, but what I loved about that was a couple things. But number one, it was his mom. His mom, Beverly, who just hit 10 years clean from her heroin addiction.

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I mean, I get it. They don't generally stand for the other side. If he hadn't finished it with Make America Great Again, they probably would have stood, I guess. I don't know. I'm glad we don't have to find out. But maybe we can give him that one. Whatever. Everybody else is on their feet, clapping away. And it was a beautiful moment. And Trump seemed contemplative and seemed a bit more serene.

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And I got to tell you, like, this actually kind of makes me kind of emotional, but like the way she looks kind of reminds me of my sister, you know, who was also an addict recovering like Beverly. But, you know... like a little weathered, like beautiful, but a little weathered. You can tell this person's not had the easiest life. And look at her, you guys. It's so sweet.

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She's there seeing her son sworn in as the vice president. If you know his story, and I know it well now, but he suffered. He suffered so mightily. His dad abandoned them. His mom had man after man in the house. His mom had a history of abuse. And he writes all about the time she drove him 90 miles an hour in a car and threatened to kill them both. And he was terrified and the police came.

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He heard a lot of domestic violence in the house. He never knew what pajamas were. He slept in blue jeans, as he said most Hillbilly kids did, most of their upbringing. He had Pepsi in his baby bottle. So he had a weight problem most of his life. He still struggles with it. He had absolutely no signs that something wonderful would happen in his life. None. None whatsoever.

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And he had the blessing of some strong women around him. His mamaw. chief among them, who became a national figure when he wrote Hillbilly Elegy. His sister, Lindsay, with whom he has a very close, loving relationship. She's five years older. Amy Chua, professor at Yale Law School, who really is one of the reasons he is up there today.

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She saw him as something special and helped him, encouraged him to write that book, which changed everything. Usha, who he met at Yale Law School. And Inside this abusive environment was a really smart, gifted kid. And Mamaw saw it. She kicked his ass. She was merciless on him. She made him work hard and keep his marks up and so on. And he wound up using the military to go to college.

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He went to Ohio State. And he did really well. Like he crushed Ohio State in two years with a double major. And the next thing you knew, he was like, you know what? What the hell? He applied to Yale Law School and got in. And that, I'm sure, was the biggest game changer of his life, you know, getting into Yale Law School. And he served. And he served.

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He served as a Marine for five years, I think it was. And like to see him up there and to see his loving mother... who I'm sure this is by far the greatest accomplishment she's seen in her own life. You know, I mean, her, her daughter, Lindsay's great too, but this is remarkable. Be alive for it. You know, like be able to take it in because JD Vance is young. J.D.

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Vance just turned 40 a few months ago, which is why he has toddlers up there with him. And that's another piece of the wonderful moment, which is we're going to have him for, God willing, decades to come. And if all goes well, he could be the person to whom Trump passes the baton in four years to keep this whole thing going. So anyway, for me, by far the number one moment.

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He's definitely in a great mood. He's been working around the clock. And you can only imagine what that was like for him to return. You know, he talked about how they tried to kill me. They indicted me. And I'm back. I did it. I survived. But perhaps my own favorite moment from the speech was President Trump announcing the executive actions he plans to take today.

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No, I thought the same thing. And I thought... Both of those guys have come under serious fire from leftists who are out to ruin them. J.D., there was a period where even the Republican Party was saying he's not going to make it, that they're going to pull him after Trump named him, that he wasn't going to survive childless cat lady.

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And by the way, for the record, I said from the beginning, you people are fools. That is not going to happen. He will remain the nominee. And... Trump stood by him, too. Trump did not waver on J.D. He did not waver on Brett Kavanaugh. And so there was a poetic justice to Kavanaugh being the one to administer the oath to J.D. today.

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Not to mention he married a woman who happens to be brown and he has mixed race kids, which they would be celebrating too. But instead they tell us he too is a white supremacist who's working for a white supremacist now. It doesn't count.

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In fact, you guys, can we pull over the soundbite of J.D. Vance in my interview of him in 2017 when I said, are you going to run for office? And his reaction to it. I think you guys can probably find it. We've played it before, but it's a great one. When I interviewed him back then, so I feel like we can almost... say exactly what he would have said.

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He wouldn't have believed that, you know, there was, it was clear when I sat with him in 17 that he was possibly contemplating a future in politics because he had just left Peter Thiel and working for him in Silicon Valley.

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And he told me one of the reasons he left is here he is, you know, this Midwestern guy from Ohio who didn't have a lot of travel in his life growing up, if any Kentucky, as we know, down in the Hala, but he goes out to San Francisco and he said, people are openly defecating on the streets. He's like, I got to get out of here. Like I, I can't survive in this. If this is San Francisco, I I'm out.

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So he comes back home and he started, you know, this sort of initiative where he was going to help people like him get out into the workforce and it never really went anywhere, but it always seemed like a placeholder to sort of rejigger the next step. Um, and he and Usha were just starting their children, their, their family. She was super pregnant.

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That's why it's so insane when people are trying to say that he doesn't like women. It's like, what kind of a husband... who's very accomplished in his own right and went to Yale Law School and worked in Silicon Valley, would be that supportive of his very busy wife, who's pregnant with their child, who then is clerking on the Supreme Court. Obviously, he's a very evolved man.

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They're happening now, including that the federal government will only recognize two genders.

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And, you know, again, if he were Democrat, they'd be calling him a feminist.

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Without the cheating and abuse. He's totally, yeah. He's just like Doug Emhoff. We have it, Deb? Oh, she's looking for it. Okay. When we have it, we'll drop it in for the listening audience. Okay. So that's That's J.D. Vance. I want to go back to Melania. I have to say it's a delight to see somebody who is incredibly stylish and sophisticated and classy resume this role. I am sick.

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of the vogues of the world, trying to make Corrie Jean-Pierre and her alleged style a thing. Jill Biden, who I grant you, you know, has been a lifetime partner to Joe Biden. I can't say good partner given that she allowed him to run for re-election, but prior to now, she seems like she was okay, to his infirmity, trying to make her into a fashion icon.

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Melania Trump, an actual supermodel who is about six foot four in this video we're watching now. Never in Vogue, never on the cover of Vogue. And man, just the elegance of that. My favorite thing, though, were like the memes about the hat. Because they were like, she's taking a list of all the enemies. She's under that hat, like, and you, and you, and you.

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And then people went wild because Trump, when he came out to be sworn in, tried to give her a kiss. Yes. And he couldn't get to her face. Or maybe he was just doing the polite thing that sometimes our men do or like you're all made up and they don't totally make contact. But here it is, that video. It's almost there. It's very tough. It was the hat. It was the makeup. But look at her, you guys.

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Who wouldn't want to buy a dress from the designer who does Melania's clothing?

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Okay, so while we're on the subject of fashion, you knew that Lauren Sanchez was not going to make it through this show without a mention. She dresses like a prostitute. She looked like a hooker at the inauguration. She wore a corset and she had her boobs on display. I can't with this woman. The girls were out. Look at this. Look at this. I can see the middle of her boobs.

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I can see her under boob, like right there. This is absurd. She couldn't even keep them covered up for a day. And all over at the X was a picture of Mark Zuckerberg sitting next to her. Sneaking a peek. He knew where the action was at. Sneaking a peek. I don't blame him at all.

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No one could believe it. It was the cheesiest thing ever. I'm sorry. It is. Plenty of people write about John Fetterman in his shorts, which is fine. I don't agree with that either. But how many people are going to write about her showing her breasts at the inauguration?

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Can I tell you something? They're vicious because Jeff Bezos runs the Washington Post, owns it, and owns Amazon, of course. And I will tell you, this is not my first time saying she dresses like a hooker because she does. And we had to deal with some Hollywood PR firm. I can't remember who we were trying to get, but we tried to avoid those people, but sometimes you can't.

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And this PR agent went off. on our Booker. They're so angry because they represent her or they do some business with her and she had talked to that, whatever. It's like those two don't like to be made fun of. He's done a lot to change his look. He looks nothing like he looked 20 years ago. I don't think she's seen a doctor if she doesn't want to go under the scalp. I mean, you tell me.

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That's not natural. No. And that's fine if that's your choice, but have some dignity and some respect for your setting in your circumstances. No one should be talking about your tits. Sorry. They should be talking about the inauguration.

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Think about it, because you look at, I mean, Melania Trump, she's got a breast. She's got... I tried to say she's not. Just say it, Megan. She's curvy. Okay. But look how she dresses. She's the epitome of class. She could wear that outfit and get even more attention if she wanted to. When she's not at the inauguration, she doesn't dress like that.

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She does not run around showing off all the assets. Yes, back in the day, she took nude pictures. I know that. Trump is reportedly the one who leaked them to the New York Post. Yeah. Hell yeah. This is a long time ago before they were in presidential politics and it certainly wasn't at a presidential inauguration.

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The right response, actually. Okay, so before we end, predictions for the next three weeks on what we're about to look at.

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a law that's been duly passed by Congress and signed by the president by executive order. Like that's like, I am not against TikTok necessarily, but I don't think you can undo a duly passed law with an executive order.

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yeah oh right yeah that i don't want to hear equal now by tweet and then the american bar association and georgetown law celebrating it like it was real it's insane states have rescinded their support for the era like six of them have rescinded their support so it's like the most extra constitutional bullshit that you can imagine and yet there's yeah nobody cares There are only 27 amendments.

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That's that. You cannot do a 28th amendment by tweet. And they better accept that or Trump's going to start doing it every day. Two genders and 28 amendments.

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And wait until you hear how exactly he did that, because now we have the executive orders and they're a thing of beauty. I know so many, so many people who have worked so hard for this moment were rejoicing on that portion of the speech. And when you read the executive actions that he took on that, it's just absolutely huge. Thank God he won.

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It's crazy. Okay. We'll end the show on this. Uh, my team did find the JD Vance exchange with yours truly. When I talked to them now, I guess it was, well, three, eight years ago. Just, it doesn't seem that long, but he looks so different. And in many ways he was so different. Certainly his life was to watch.

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So different. He's grown up in a lot of ways. I had to say I'm wishing him all the best. I have been praying a lot for those two, for the cabinet members. I really hope the Senate does the right thing, gives Pete Hegseth a vote soon and doesn't let him twist in the wind and that Trump's nominees get in there.

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We have so much important business to do, and this is no time to jerk around in the Senate. He needs his full cabinet. We all know he's going to push his agenda through. If you guys don't want to vote for the nominees, you don't have to vote for them, but they deserve a vote. And we got to get going. This country overwhelmingly voted for Donald Trump and they support his politics.

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Even the polls that I just read, like the New York Times showed, they support his policies more than they support him personally. Either way, you can't get in the way. Stop getting in the way of those policies because the American people voted for them.

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So prayers up for the Trump family and the Vance family and for the country, which I feel like is on the right track for the first time in a long time. Thank you both so much. Dealing with the traffic. Just to get over here is like you can't move in D.C. right now. I don't know what's going to happen.

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No, they're having a good time, including us. All right. Lots of love. Let us know what you think. You can email me. Megan, M-E-G-Y-N at Megan Kelly dot com. We'll see you tomorrow with N.R. Day. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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The speech had a fittingly Trumpian ending where he boldly declared that America is entering a new period of peace and prosperity.

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All right, so here we got a little fashion info for you. Lippis, it is a guy named Adam Lippis. who designed that beautiful dress. It was a navy blue coat. And then the hat was by Eric Javits, another New York-based designer. Lippis is 52. He rose to prominence as a creative director for Oscar de la Renta, but since 2004 has his own company.

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First speech as the 47th president. CNN's John King called the president's speech dark. Of course, we always hear that when Trump speaks. And here's Gayle King over on CBS making it all about race.

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Oh my God. You know what? Why don't you take a look at your own party if you're looking for absence of diversity, okay? See what happened to the working class because they fled your party, Gayle King, in droves. And they're not coming back anytime soon, you elitist snob who's obsessed over people's melanin. Nobody in the Republican Party thinks like that.

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And by the way, there were plenty of people of color, both there and in the overflow room and and over at the Capitol Arena. And I saw them myself when I was there yesterday. So get over yourself. After his historic speech, Trump heading over to Capitol One Arena. And there, at this moment, he is addressing or about to supporters of all races.

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And he's going to sit at this desk and sign his first set of executive orders on the border, energy, and more. I'm going to list for you what they are. Joining me now to react to all of this and other breaking news out of the Trump Second term now underway are the EJs.

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Who better than this historic day to have Emily Jashinsky, DC correspondent for Unheard and host of Undercurrents, and Eliana Johnson, editor-in-chief of the Washington Free Beacon and co-host of the podcast Ink Stained Wretches. Trust in media is at an all-time low, and let's be honest, it's not without reason.

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He also used to design for Target, so good for her for getting a guy who is close to being a man of the people. Mr. Trump and Melania then took a brief visit over to the White House where President Biden was heard saying two words to President Trump. Welcome home. Good line.

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I apologize for your half-lit face. It's just sort of we're here, and it's like we're dealing with the sun. It's nice to have some sun, but it's freaking cold outside. Yeah, it's freezing. Right? Oh, yeah. It's freezing. I mean, I don't know how they honestly could have done the inauguration outside.

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Because it's one thing if you had to show up for one hour and stand there, but you had to get there... The orders to get there began at eight. So that's the latest you could have shown up at eight in the morning for a 12 o'clock ceremony. It would have been a nightmare.

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Yeah. I did feel bad, though, because, you know, while they fit 20,000 people into the Capital One Arena, they, like, that's nowhere near of the people who wanted to come watch this inauguration. You know, it would have been hundreds of thousands. And many had purchased their tickets. And the people who wind up not getting in are, like, the hardcore ranking file.

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You know what happened with us is we went to the Capitol Arena with Trump yesterday. And I spoke at his event there and saw much of the same cast of characters as came today. And my whole family went. We had a great time. We did not get invited to the inner inauguration, which is fine. That was for mostly his top, top surrogates and donors.

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But they did invite us to go back to the Capitol Arena in a VIP thing. And we just said, you know what? You should give those tickets to somebody else. Because we had the whole day yesterday Let somebody else do it so we can get more like people who really, you know, regular people who don't have VIP access.

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But I think no matter how many people did that, you know, you needed 10 times the number of stadiums.

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Do you guys know, did you ever watch Fox and Father? It's Lawrence Fox and Father Calvin Robinson. They're UK guys. They're awesome. They got unceremoniously canceled by GB News, which is supposed to be conservative, but in any event. So they were trying to get, I guess, to the Capitol Arena today and either couldn't or something happened.

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This lovely little piece of jargon came just after Mr. Biden announced pardons for Dr. Fauci, the January 6th committee, General Mark Milley and many, many others to protect them from, quote, baseless abuse. and politically motivated investigations, because who would want to be the target of one of those?

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So they wound up watching it with Kid Rock in his hotel room. A lot of those things have happened, you know, and people, you can hear the cheering. We saw it and our hotel room and you could hear the cheers when Trump was actually, when he took the oath of office, as soon as it was done, like all over the hotel room, down in the lobby, just people are feeling so jubilant.

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And I'm sure everybody listening to this has had their own experience of that.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. Wow, we knew we would have a jam-packed show for you today with multiple major stories breaking over the weekend, but we didn't know it would be quite this big.

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But is there a way if they said, can he get treatment while the sitting president? you know, with medicines over the past four years? Could he have done like this ADT or the thing that we just discussed? Could he have been taking those treatments over the past four years, like quietly on the weekends? How would that go?

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Is there any way the doctors, as we look back at the most recent PSA, or most recent physical for Joe Biden in February of 24, and it didn't show that a PSA test had been done, which doesn't mean one was not done, but I heard Dr. Emanuel on MSNBC this morning saying some number of older men choose not to have the PSA test.

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The news of the diagnosis came on the same weekend we heard the audio for the first time from Mr. Biden's interview with special counsel Robert Herr, where the president forgot the years when he had been vice president, as well as the year when his son Beau died. And it comes just ahead of tomorrow's publication of this book, Original Sin, by Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson.

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Do you believe that the White House physician, this Dr. Kevin O'Connor, could have in good faith said, you're 82 or just or I guess let's subtract four years from that. You're 78. You don't really need it. We're not just we're not going to do it.

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What's your guess on how many years the PSA would have been elevated given this diagnosis?

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And by the way, my understanding is that that PSA test, is it prostate antigen test?

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That's just a blood test. So if he's giving blood for an annual physical for his triglycerides, that's just an extra box you check. It's not like some extra thing he would have had to go through.

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They'll be here, by the way, on this program tomorrow. Don't miss that. And the book lays out the significant cognitive issues that Joe Biden displayed while president and the lengths his aides went to hide them. Now, I've read the book. It's embargoed. And we've agreed not to disclose what we've read prior to Tapper and Thompson coming on tomorrow. But I can tell you this. It's horrifying.

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Wait a minute. So you're saying that jumped out at you, the fact that they're stating in their statement, they say, the cancer appears to be hormone sensitive, which allows for effective management. You're saying how would they know that this soon?

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Oh, that's very interesting. Well, you know, the interesting, the other part of it is, yeah, the bone metastasis, because anybody who's ever had a cancer scare, and sadly that's, you know, millions and millions of Americans where you just get like the, I'm concerned from the doctor, then you have to wait. You have to wait forever.

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Now, granted, he's the former president, so maybe it's on an expedited basis. But even just the bone metastasis, that came back very quickly within less than a week from the feeling of the nodule. Is that abbreviated? Does that seem too short a time or no?

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I'm just so used to cynical politicians and I don't know whether this is a lie or not. I just understand there's, we all distrust him now. Um, If this is not true, this is a pernicious lie because in the same way women obsess over breast cancers and ovarian cancer, men obsess over this. And we definitely should not be putting out into the ecosphere a message that it's a thing, you're fine.

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And then four months later, you have metastatic prostate cancer that's in your bones because you're a true expert saying that just doesn't happen. That actually does not sound real. He would have had this cancer for five to seven years. In his case, he either didn't detect it, he and his doctor, five to seven years ago, or they did and they're not telling us the truth.

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It was extensive, the cover-up. They do name names. I don't know why people are saying that they don't name names. They do name names of the specific aides that were most responsible for covering it up, and we'll get into exactly who they were and who was most responsible.

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Doc, I'm sure there are a lot of men out there listening to this right now asking themselves, okay, I'm not testing for any of this because I don't want to be impotent. But is that always the outcome if you do find yourself with a cancer diagnosis of the prostate?

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So there are things to be learned from this book, and tomorrow will be an interesting exchange between me and these two because... Yes, of course, I'm going to give them a hard time for especially Tapper. He knows that he says he wants to answer these questions for their role. I mean, the media's role in covering this up. But I want to get into the substance of this book.

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And so just final, just to close it up, if they did know, if they had received the diagnosis years ago and didn't, did not do a surgery, but decided to treat it medically, would it have been like a chemotherapy? Would that have been a possibility? Like what are the possibilities in terms of the treatment over the past five years?

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Dr. David Samadi, thank you so much for your expertise. Great to see you again.

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Don't forget, check out his book, Prostate Cancer, Now What? And all you guys out there, get screened, get screened. You don't need to progress right to this terrible diagnosis and you don't need to have a loss of sexual function. It's scary to have anything go wrong in that department, but better to get on it early. That's separate and apart from whatever we're being told by the Biden office.

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I'm sorry, but they have earned... our distrust. They've earned our distrust and boy, oh boy, are we feeling it. Up next, Rich and Charles Cook react. If you're a homeowner, listen up. When is the last time you checked on your home title? Meaning the legal proof that you own your house. The answer is probably never.

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That's 24-7 monitoring of your title, urgent alerts to any changes, and if fraud should happen, they will spend up to $1 million to fix it. Go to HomeTitleLock.com now. Use promo code Megan. That's HomeTitleLock.com, promo code Megan. Join me now for our NR Day here at the MK Show. Rich Lowry, editor of National Review and Charles C.W. Cook, senior editor and host of the Charles C.W. Cook podcast.

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I don't think we on the independent and right-leaning ecosphere should ignore the substance that's been reported in this book just because you may or may not like the reporters and you may or may not think that they had a hand in keeping it quiet, right? It is worthwhile to look at what they're reporting because there actually is extensive new reporting in there.

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Do yourself a favor. Go become an NR Plus member today to get all of their content and you all but eliminate the annoying ads. It really does work and I recommend it. Guys, welcome back. Wow. Wow. I haven't heard anybody, any other doctor or experts say what Dr. Samadi, and he's the real deal.

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Trust me, I'm not just putting on some random, he's the real, this is the guy you go to if you get a bad diagnosis, say what he just said, which is, how would they know this soon into it that it's hormone sensitive? He does not believe that. He says, they say it appears to be hormone sensitive.

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They would not know that until they had started treatments, this hormone therapy, to see whether he's responding to it. That's pretty extraordinary, Rich. That's as close as I think we're going to get to a smoking gun that this statement is not true.

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Right. Because the implication, Charles, if Dr. Samadi's right and they must have been trying a treatment prior to this statement, otherwise they wouldn't be able to say it appears to be hormone sensitive. So that the statement is bullshit. That's basically what he's saying. Right.

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The implication, of course, is that Joe Biden has had cancer for some time, including while he was the sitting president of the United States, and may also have been receiving treatments, including treatments that can cause cognitive decline. This is not to attribute all of his cognitive decline to a medication.

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It's just yet another relevant factor that the American people would be entitled to know. Is he in full possession of his mental faculties or is there some medication that's now diminishing them? Because we've entrusted the nuclear football and potentially the lives of our sons and daughters to this man.

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So, I mean, the extent of this already we've been calling in a cover up, it may be far greater than we even understood.

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Yesterday, Joe Biden's office announced that the former president has been diagnosed with a, quote, aggressive form of prostate cancer that has spread to his bones. Doctors say they made the diagnosis on Friday, the office statement said, after Mr. Biden complained of urinary symptoms, which led doctors to find a small nodule on his prostate.

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I disagree with people who say that they haven't broken any new ground. There are a lot of new details in there that I did not know. And that I think you guys are all going to find very, very, very interesting. And not coincidentally, I believe, now we get this presidential announcement from the Biden office. And as if on cue,

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One of the, and hopefully Tapper and Thompson will forgive me if this is revealing, I'm trying to separate what I've read from the excerpts that have been intentionally released from what I've read and is in my head and is embargoed until tomorrow. But I feel like this one's out there. On that front, Rich, they told us that...

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The reason he had like a strange gait and he wasn't walking normally was because he refused to wear his boot from when he had hurt his foot a couple years earlier. He was like this bold, like Kennedy type of athlete who's like, screw the boot. I'm out there. I'm the president. So he didn't follow doctor's orders, and that's why he was limping along.

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We get this from top Democrat strategist David Axelrod reacting to the news from Joe Biden's office, suggesting that these discussions we're about to have as this book hits shelves and the Her audio becomes public about Biden's cognitive issues. Well, it's gonna need to be more muted now, now that the man is suffering from cancer. Watch.

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And in the book, they report the truth, which is he had degenerative spine issues that were severe that were probably going to put him in a wheelchair soon. And they just wouldn't tell us. They lied. I mean, the point being. They deserve no benefit of the doubt. I'm sorry, I realize this is grave news. Like Charlie, I hope the president recovers.

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I realize it doesn't seem very likely, but I don't let my politics, they don't cause me to root for the man's death. But they do not deserve the benefit of the doubt on this statement.

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Because it seems, you know, it seems very likely that he knew he had cancer. He was running for reelection and that they understood they would just pass the baton to Kamala and she'd be in in a way that she never could be on her own because even Joe Biden, according to the reports, knew she was politically talentless. So this would have been a great way of stopping orange man bad.

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holding onto power and installing their chosen puppet to take over the reins as president while getting credit for having the first female woman of color president. Yay, go Democrats. So that makes perfect sense to me. That sounds exactly like them as opposed to, we just didn't check a 78 to 82 year old man's prostate for any of the four years he was president.

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And whoops just fell victim to bad luck, Charlie, that he's one of like the only men ever to go from zero to metastatic bone cancer in a period of 12 months or less.

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Yeah, I don't believe that they just chose not to test because- Right, nor do I. Yeah, he's too important a person. There's just a human instinct to want to stay alive. I don't know. Jill Biden seems like a ghoul to me, I have to be honest. Maybe she was behind the scenes like, don't test. It's a need to know, and we don't need to know.

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But people are pointing out online, Rich, Biden himself in July of 2022- did say, I have cancer. And it perked up the ears of many of us, like, what? But he was so daffy so often, it was hard to know, like, is this a daffy moment? Or did he just actually slip and tell us something? Here's the soundbite, July 20, 2022, Saw III.

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It's really crazy to hear it now because, you know, to be honest, he's clear in that phrase. Like, that's why I and so many other people I know have can't like he did it. He, you know, the pronoun, the comma, the additional clause, picking back up the thought.

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And actually, a lot of people were commenting on that clip at the time, questioning whether the story itself is true about like the frost was so full of oil. Like what? No, it wasn't. But there was an admission there that's pretty stark in retrospect, no? No.

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Well, we reject your suggestion and that will not be happening on this program. We will be taking a full, robust, deep dive into everything that's revealed in that book. And no, no, no. Detail will be spared, David Axelrod, because of this diagnosis. You are hashtag part of the problem.

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All right, standby. We're not done with this discussion. We'll get into the Her report and play some of the soundbites and continue the latest on Joe Biden's office announcing he has metastatic prostate cancer, which is stage four. Next, don't go away. Rich and Charlie are here for the whole show.

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Guys, it's not just Axelrod, but everyone's favorite pundit, Brian Stelter, also has thoughts on how this news should affect our coverage of the ongoing revelations, thanks to this book and others, about the truth on Joe Biden's mental acuity.

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Is it... So the debate needs to be put on pause and Axelrod saying it needs to be now more muted and even, quote, set aside, Charlie, the debate about the cover up of the mental acuity because of the cancer diagnosis. And that raises really one of, if not the most interesting question. No, it's not the but it's one of the top interesting questions. Why did Biden announce this? when he did.

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The same media that covered up the Joe Biden mental infirmity is now going to try to use this diagnosis as an excuse to cover up the discussion about the cover up. It's a no, Mr. Axelrod. And he's not the only one saying it. We'll get to that. Joining me today in just a moment, Charles C.W. Cook, senior editor and host of the Charles C.W.

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So let's go down the lane of he's known. They've been dealing with it probably for years, according to Dr. Samadi. And literally almost every doctor who's weighing in on this, oncologists and prostate doctors, Zeke Emanuel is no right-wing doctor trying to run cover for Biden. He's saying he's had it for 10 years. He's like, trust me, he's had it for 10 years.

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So let's go down the lane of they knew. Why release it now? Why release it last night on a Sunday in the midst of, well, Saturday's report releasing the Her Audio and two days before the Tapper Thompson book comes out? Because there's a lot of possibilities. You know, a couple would be to make them look stupid, Tapper and Thompson, right? You didn't get it. You think you got your big scoop?

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You didn't even find out I had cancer. We've been hiding it for five years or whatever, right? That's a possibility. Another is, forgive me, but it's like the Alex Murdoch. theory. That guy down in South Carolina, that lunatic prosecutor who his son had a boat accident and he was stealing from his firm and the shit was going to hit the fan.

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And instead of just like owning up to, I've been stealing and embezzling from my company. The prosecution theory was he shot his kid and his wife to death to engender sympathy, to totally change the narrative around him, to engender sympathy. And this obviously is not that same thing, but I'm just saying, is this a move to like engender sympathy and get us talking about poor Joe Biden?

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I'm so sad as opposed to I'm so mad at what he did. Anyway, your theory on why now?

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Yeah, just so that people understand that the statement reads, Correct. There's no, like...

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Cook podcast and Rich Lowry, editor in chief of National Review. They will also be standing by for the first 20 minutes of the show as we start. with one of the most respected doctors when it comes to prostate cancer in the world. His name is Dr. David Samadi. If you watch Fox News, you might know him. Had him on my shows there many times. He is a prostate cancer surgeon.

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That's not impossible, Rich, but I'm much more of a cynical mofo than Charlie. I don't know. How did I wind up more cynical than the guy who was raised in Great Britain? Anyway, there's no... It's too coincidental.

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Like, there's been a barrage of these books, but this one's getting tons and tons of attention because Tapper's associated with it, and that generates a whole different level of controversy and attention. And... It's hitting tomorrow. I mean, it's going to be as of midnight tonight, it'll be out there for everybody.

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And I'm telling you, like having read it now, I disagree with the people who are saying there's no news in it. There is a lot of news and hopefully we'll be going through those line items tomorrow. I actually just texted him asking if he could stay longer because there's so much that I want to discuss about what's in there. Um, yeah. So that's about to hit.

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And the Biden team, almost certainly they've seen it. And it comes on the heels of the release of the Her tapes, which we're about to discuss, which are terrible. There's no way that's a coincidence.

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Everybody sitting here right now, the three of us in the audience, too, frankly, knows Joe Biden is forgive me. He's a. I'm picking between different words that begin with D. He's a jerk. He's petty. He's vindictive. He's nasty. And I don't put it past him for one second to try to hurt these guys. Like, F you.

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It's like there's a personal satisfaction in trying to undermine them or make them look stupid. Back to theory number one, which is, is he basically just trying to show, like, they don't have shit. Like, they don't know anything. They didn't even get the fact that I have damn cancer and I'm heading off to, you know, stage four metastasis land.

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It's interesting to me that you had... It wasn't like a tidal wave of Democrats coming out on the Sunday shows, Charles, and saying... I feel lied to. But that is one of the themes of the that's one of the more absurd themes of the Tapper Thompson book, which is like these Democrats and White House aides like shocked, shocked. I'm so upset. I feel like, oh, my God. OK, sure. Sure, Jan. But.

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You're also getting some who are being a little bit more critical on camera. And I'll just give you one example. Chris Murphy of Connecticut was on Meet the Press yesterday with this message, SOT16.

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Hmm. It's a softening. You have to listen for it because they're also slimy. But it's a softening on going a little further.

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Yeah. Now they're now they're trying to stop coverage of the cover up with the statements from Axelrod and Stelter. And it's a no. I have to say, even it's not just them. Like even last night, I really I love Piers Morgan, but he said online, I'm going to block anyone I see. And there's already a lot of vile crap happening.

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flying around, mocking, celebrating, or playing partisan politics with Joe Biden's health news. The man has served his country for 50 years and is fighting for his life. Show some bloody respect. Then he had Meghan McCain say, I don't know if it's just my bias or background, but I don't want to hear anything else about Biden's health coverup, tell-alls, interviews with staff, et cetera.

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Let the Biden family be in peace right now. This is all just so sad and imprudent. I completely disagree, wholeheartedly disagree with both of those. It's all part of the same story. It's extreme. Like they will deal with their private tragedy and they'll deal with it privately. But he is the president of the United States or was the president of the United States.

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And this is very much our business, very much our business, Rich, especially if we were lied to.

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They have in this book, unnamed, but cabinet secretaries weighing in on whether Joe Biden was capable of handling the 2 a.m. phone call. We'll get to that tomorrow. The Her interview is back in the news now because Axios—that's where Alex Thompson is working—

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released the tapes, excerpts first on Friday, I think it was, and then the full tapes came on Saturday, of Joe Biden interviewing with special counsel Robert Herr, who was investigating Biden's retention of classified documents from his time as a U.S.

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senator and his time as vice president, and was very much looking into potential criminal charges against him, same as they brought against Trump for withholding some classified documents post-presidency. And the her report eventually concluded that he would not bring charges against Biden, even though he had him.

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He had him dead to rights on retaining the classified information because he was a well-meaning elderly man with a poor memory that or that's what her believed a jury would conclude. And thus it would make this a difficult case to convict. So he moved on. So he rather than releasing the tapes, her, he released a statement describing why what his conclusions were.

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I think he did it basically, but I'm not going to charge him. And here's why. And the left had an absolute meltdown. And to look back on their meltdowns now that we've heard the audio and we heard some of the transcript, we'd been given some of the transcript from Republicans who got it. right at the time, but now hearing it ourselves is something else.

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And so you look back now on the Democrat reaction, now having heard the Biden tapes and how he sounded, which I'll play for you, and they look so foolish. They look, I mean, I know it's true, but it's just like such partisan hacks. The hackery is just in your throat and it's inescapable. So those people, I guarantee this week are going to go with the, let's be respectful.

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Now's not the time because they're in the wake of a different kind of crisis, right? It's like the Biden staff and his aides and yes, top Democrats are in the crosshairs in this book. But all the people who ran cover after yet another, one of the big clues we had that Biden was infirm, the her report looked completely foolish. They look absolutely absurd. And so let's get into the her interview.

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All right. Biden sat down with her. And one of the things that was brought up was his son, Bo. And when Bo died. And Robert Hurt came out after and said he couldn't remember when Bo died. And this is one of the reasons why he's... I concluded he has a poor memory. After... Her report was released.

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Biden came out in a very rare, I think it might have been a one-time evening press conference, to attack the report. I'm going to do this in reverse order. And accused her of bringing up the issue of his son. Indignant, like how could you do that to a suffering father? Here was Biden on February 8th, 2024 in SOT 12.

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The statement yesterday read in part, quote, while this represents a more aggressive form of the disease, the cancer appears to be hormone sensitive, which allows for effective management, end quote. So that's what Mr. Biden's office is telling us. But the timing of this announcement is raising many serious questions.

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Thank you so much. All right. So let's start with this statement that the former president's office put out. Is it is there any way that they just found out for the first time on Friday that he had prostate cancer and it had metastasized to the bone with absolutely no warning? Do you find that likely prior to that?

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Mm hmm. Here's here's another example of it, Rich, where Adam Schiff, who was one of the main villains in the wake of the her report, went after her, who testified before Congress on all of this on March 12th, 2024. Stop 15.

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And just to close it out, here's a couple more examples of how Biden sounded in there. Let's just do this one. Sought eight on him not being able to remember when he was vice president.

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The amazing part, too, is that, you know, you're getting the gist of all this, but he does testify that he thinks he wanted to keep one of these classified documents, a 2009 memo on what's happening in Afghanistan, quote, for posterity's sake. Yeah. I mean, really, what he means is like as a tchotchke, which is exactly what Trump got prosecuted for, Rich.

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Oh, it was the worst speaking objection. We call them speaking objections in the law where it's like he interjects and he's like, I just want to be clear. He said he couldn't remember. And then he said he guesses it was for posterity's sake. And I want to be really clear that we're not going to guess. The real answer was, I don't remember.

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It was ridiculous, a ridiculous speaking objection by Bob Bauer. I'll just play one more of Biden struggling to remember and ask the audience whether it was just gratuitous for Robert Herr to say he had a poor memory. And this is one of the reasons why I don't think I can prosecute him on the retention of documents. Here he is in SOT 9.

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That's twice, twice, Charlie. He could not remember when he was the sitting vice president.

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So now I wasn't, I wasn't in a place, but now I got to play the one where he's, he's waxing poetic about his archery success in Mongolia.

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Oh, my God. It had it all. So good. Gorillas, bales of hay and Mongols and sumo wrestlers and the prime minister. And he's the perfect shot. And I mean, haven't we all been seated next to that person at like a wedding or like, OK, so I guess he did shoot a bone arrow. Yeah. You've been seated next to that person, haven't you? Like a wedding or something where they're like, oh.

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Poor Robert Herr. You got to feel for the guy. The whole thing, soup to nuts, was a very negative experience for him. That seems clear. Rich and Charlie, stand by. We'll be right back after this. Parents, too many kids today are not learning the real history of America. Schools are pushing revisionist narratives or skipping over key ideas altogether.

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I'm sorry for subjecting you to a view clip, but I had to in light of what we've been through these two hours together. You guys, of course, that was that at all. Right. It's like Trump. It's Trump's fault. He got cancer research. So it's his fault. And then back to he's he's very he's very open about his problems. He didn't need to tell us any of this. So, you know.

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The book that needs to be written next, and I really hope somebody's working on it right now, is going to be called Complicit. That's really what needs, and it needs to include everyone. One person who would undoubtedly be on that list and who the ladies of The View would love to have seen in that Oval Office is Hillary Clinton. We'll close with her, Charles.

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She was in New York on May 1st, but we just got our hands on this, and had a message for Americans about the Trump presidency and more.

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Got it, Charles. So everybody on the right is a handmaiden to the patriarchy except for Lisa Murkowski.

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She's got to talk the cool talk now. No, she's got to be more like AOC. Right.

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It's ridiculous. We'll leave that one in the air for people to ponder. Charlie, great to see you. Rich, you as well. Don't forget, guys, tomorrow, Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson, they'll be here. That'll be super fun. We'll see you then. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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Well, the third possibility is they did see it, and they kept it a secret from us.

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How could President Biden, who left office at the age of 82, not have been previously screened for prostate cancer? Oncologist Ezekiel Emanuel, brother of Rahm Emanuel. I've interviewed him many times on Fox News. He's a prominent Democrat and he is the so-called architect of Obamacare. He told Morning Joe today that in his opinion, Mr. Biden had this cancer while he was president. Watch.

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Doc, there was another doctor online who was suggesting that it was possible that some of the treatments for prostate cancer can cause what looks like a decline in mental acuity. There's a Dr. Stephen Quay. He wrote an article for The Spectator, and he said as follows. You tell me whether this is true. He said... Was President Biden's cognitive decline a side effect of prostate cancer treatment?

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A recent study showed that four objective measures and one subjective measure of cognitive function were all significantly impaired by the androgen deprivation therapy, ADT, used for metastatic prostate cancer treatment. citing a clinical trial report. Is that the case? Is there a treatment for prostate cancer that can cause what looks like cognitive decline?

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Let me ask you something, doc, as you, you and I've had discussions like this for many years now, and you're right. It, I, I agree with you. Had they come to you 10 years ago with an initial diagnosis, you would have used your robotics, you know, arm to perform this incredible surgery. You were one of the first to do it. And, um, Is that a point on the other side?

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Like that, that this is truthful, that they did just discover it because if you are treating, let's just, because everybody's thinking the same thing that they found out and they kept it quiet. They didn't want us to know because they wanted to beat the orange man. And they knew saying the sitting president has cancer would not be a great reelection tagline.

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So, but to argue it on his side, let's just walk it through because if they did have a high PSA test while he was in office or even before he became president, right now, five to seven years, you say, so that would have been before he became president. Wouldn't they, politics aside, have gone to a Dr. Samadhi type and said, let's have a surgery?

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I mean, is it plausible that in the name of staying in office or getting an office, he would not have had the prostate surgery just to keep it all on the down low?

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What if, you know, let's say he got, let's just say he got a diagnosis five to seven years ago that he had prostate cancer. And we have no idea what's true. They've lied to us so many times about his health. We really don't know what to believe. But I mean, for all we know, he did have some sort of a surgery and this is a recurrence. We have no idea.

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Following the inaugural mass, the pontiff shaking many hands, some visitors bowing and kissing the papal ring. Pope Leo breaking protocol one time to embrace his brother, Louis Prevost. And that'll do it for your AM update. I'm Megyn Kelly. Join me back here for The Megyn Kelly Show. We'll have all the latest on this Biden news.

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On Friday, he was diagnosed with prostate cancer with metastasis to the bone. While this represents a more aggressive form of the disease, the cancer appears to be hormone sensitive, which allows for effective management. The president and his family are reviewing treatment options with his physicians.

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President Trump responding on Truth Social, quote, Melania and I are saddened to hear about Joe Biden's recent medical diagnosis. We extend our warmest and best wishes to Jill and the family, and we wish Joe a fast and successful recovery. News of the diagnosis raising questions about whether it is possible for prostate cancer to metastasize into bone cancer so quickly.

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Some now asking whether it's possible that President Biden might have had cancer while in office. And if that were the case, many questioning how a White House physician would not have caught the symptoms in a prostate specific antigen test. His last physical, February 28th, 2024. with no mention of the PSA test or the results.

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The announcement comes as a new book on how the White House hid Mr. Biden's mental acuity problems hits shelves this week. No sooner had Mr. Biden's office made the announcement than former Obama advisor David Axelrod said on CNN that conversations about Mr. Biden's mental state, quote, should be more muted and set aside for now as he's struggling through this.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Monday, May 19th, 2025, and this is your AM Update. President Biden diagnosed with cancer. We have the details.

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To be clear, The Megyn Kelly Show and AM Update disagree. We wish Mr. Biden all the best with his recovery, and we also plan to dig deep into these issues, including what role not only the White House, but the press had in covering them up when the authors of the new book, Original Sin, appear on The Megyn Kelly Show this Tuesday.

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On Saturday, Axios releasing the long-awaited audio recordings of special counsel Robert Herr's interview with President Biden. The tapes capturing President Biden's responses during Mr. Herr's investigation into his handling of classified documents. The probe centering on documents from Mr. Biden's time as vice president and as senator that were discovered at his home and former office.

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A sympathetic, well-meaning elderly man with a poor memory. The five-hour audio recording of President Biden's interview with Special Counsel Robert Herr released publicly. A Mexican Navy ship crashes into the Brooklyn Bridge. Investigators search for the cause of the accident. And authorities identify a suspect in the terror attack at a California fertility clinic.

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The five-hour interview conducted on October 8th and 9th, 2023, became a key factor in her decision not to pursue criminal charges, citing concerns that a jury might perceive President Biden as, quote, a sympathetic, well-meaning elderly man with a poor memory. Throughout the interview, President Biden meandering, struggling to grasp words.

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The president also frequently veering off-topic, sharing personal anecdotes seemingly unrelated to the prosecutor's questions. Mr. Biden asked if he ever brought classified material from the Naval Observatory or the West Wing, responding with a rambling 12-minute answer, including a story about a trip to Mongolia.

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Special Counsel Herr's report also noting Mr. Biden's struggles in recalling important life events, including the date of his son Beau's death. Here is the audio from that portion of the interview.

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Beau Biden passed away from brain cancer in May 2015. More from that moment.

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The final report, released in February 2024, prompting President Biden to hold a rare evening press conference to address the characterizations in special counsel Robert Herr's report.

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As the tapes show, Mr. Herr had not raised President Biden's son's death. It was Mr. Biden who did that. Back then, Dems still circling the wagons around Mr. Biden, some tearing into Mr. Herr, accusing him of partisan activism at a House Judiciary Committee hearing on his findings in March. One moment here from then-California Congressman Adam Schiff.

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Despite public polling showing increasing public concern surrounding Mr. Biden's cognitive abilities, Democrats and media members insisting in the months leading up to and the months following this report that President Biden was at his very best. a portion of that defense, courtesy here of Grabian.

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Pope Leo XIV is officially inaugurated as head of the Catholic Church. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update. As President Trump is settling into his new administration, one of the top Democrats in Congress aiming to undermine the Trump agenda is Democrat Senator Dick Durbin of Illinois.

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The tapes obtained by Axios in conjunction with the new book co-authored by Axios reporter Alex Thompson and CNN Jake Tapper, those are the authors of that book, Original Sin. On Saturday evening, a sailing ship belonging to the Mexican Navy smashing into the Brooklyn Bridge in a deadly, horrifying accident.

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The Cuauhtémoc, a tall ship, the kind you might think of as a classic sailing vessel on a global goodwill tour, carrying 277 people when it suffered a mechanical failure and reportedly began drifting backward. The ship's three towering masts striking the bridge one by one. Two crew members were killed, more than 20 others injured. The New York Times reporting 11 are in critical condition.

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Despite the impact, the heavily trafficked Brooklyn Bridge did not sustain any substantial structural damage, which is a miracle if you look at this crash. New York City Mayor Eric Adams delivering remarks from the scene.

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Dramatic video captured by bystanders from every angle showing sailors who had been perched on the rigging dangling from the masts. One witness telling the New York Post a crew member was seen dangling for at least 15 minutes before being rescued. The ship is now docked at a nearby pier in New York Harbor. as investigations into the cause of the accident continue.

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Coming up, the FBI announces a suspect in the deadly car bombing outside of a California fertility clinic. And the first American-born pope is officially inaugurated. Tax day may have passed, but for millions of Americans, the real trouble is just beginning.

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If you miss the April 15th deadline or still owe back taxes, the IRS is ramping up enforcement, and every day you wait might make things worse. With over 5,000 new tax liens filed daily and tools like property seizures, bank levies, and wage garnishments, you don't want to mess around, okay? The good news is there's still time for Tax Network USA to help.

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Self-employed or a business owner, even if your books are a mess, they've got it covered. Tax Network USA specializes in cleaning up financial chaos and getting you back on track fast. Even after the deadline, it's not too late to regain control. Your consultation is completely free and acting now could stop penalties, threatening letters, and surprise levies before they escalate.

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Call 1-800-958-1000 or visit tnusa.com slash megan. You may have missed April 15th, but you haven't run out of options. Let Tax Network USA help before the IRS makes the next move. The FBI investigating a deadly car explosion at a fertility clinic in Palm Springs, California, as an intentional act of terrorism. At 10.52 a.m.

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Saturday, a massive blast rocking the area, damaging buildings several blocks away. The suspect was killed and four were injured in the blast. Investigators were covering two rifles and ammo from the scene. The suspect, identified by authorities as 25-year-old Guy Edward Bartkus, a resident of 29 Palms, about an hour drive away from the scene of the explosion.

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And according to our sponsor, the Electronic Payments Coalition, Senator Durbin has a new plan, a government takeover of your credit card. Today, Americans have thousands of choices in credit cards, but they say Senator Durbin's plan will result in less competition and less security, which means more risk for your credit and your identity.

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According to the Associated Press, the suspect was planning to record or stream the attack. The LA Times, reporting on a website containing no names but, quote, appearing connected to the bombing... laying out the case for, quote, a war against pro-lifers. The site includes a section of the users to view the recorded stream of an IVF clinic bombing, though there is no file connected to the prompt.

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According to the Times, the website, quote, extolled a hodgepodge of philosophies from abolitionist veganism, the opposition to all animal use by humans, and negative utilitarianism, the idea that we should act to minimize suffering rather than maximize pleasure in the world. The AP also reports that writings recovered from Bartkus' home quote him as believing the world should not be populated.

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On Saturday night, law enforcement swarming a neighborhood in 29 Palms. ABC Eyewitness News reporting tactical units and an armored vehicle on the scene. The target of the attack, the American Reproductive Centers, a fertility clinic and IVF lab, suffering extensive damage. Aerial footage showing the roof partially collapsed, debris extending out into the street.

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The clinic reporting on social media all staff members are accounted for and no eggs or embryos were damaged in the explosion. as they are held in a different facility. My goodness. Assistant Director of the L.A. Field Office Akhil Davis telling reporters this is one of the largest bombing investigations in Southern California. The Joint Terrorism Task Force is leading the investigation.

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Authorities believe this was an isolated incident. Attorney General Pam Bondi writing on X, quote, We are working to learn more, but let me be clear. The Trump administration understands that women and mothers are the heartbeat of America. Violence against a fertility clinic is unforgivable.

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Pope Leo XIV, the first American pope ever, officially inaugurated on Sunday as the head of the Catholic Church. Thousands gathering in St. Peter's Square at the Vatican, among them a large U.S. delegation and dignitaries from around the world to witness the installation of the new pontiff, who now leads the world's 1.4 billion Catholics. A moment from the pope's homily.

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Pope Leo wearing the traditional white papal vestments, a departure from his predecessor, Pope Francis, who chose simpler garments, appearing visibly emotional at times, most notably upon receipt of the Fisherman's Ring, a symbol of the pontiff's authority. The large gold ring, a reference to St. Peter, the first pope, who was a fisherman by trade.

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You can learn more for yourself at guardyourcard.org, and you could consider telling your senators to stop Dick Durbin's government takeover of your credit card before it's too late. On Sunday afternoon, the office of former President Joe Biden releasing a statement, quote, Last week, President Biden was seen for a new finding of a prostate nodule after experiencing increasing urinary symptoms.

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According to scripture, Jesus called to him, saying, I will make you a fisher of men. Pope Leo XIV greeting dozens of dignitaries after the mass, including Vice President J.D. Vance and Secretary of State Marco Rubio. Ahead of the visit, Secretary Rubio asked about perceived criticism from the Vatican regarding the Trump administration's immigration policies. Here he is responding.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and happy Monday. It's the start of a busy week as tensions on the Democratic side of the aisle are rising by the day. By the way, we're back. We were on vacation last week. My kids are still on vacation and I am at the beach, but working.

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Yeah, it's a turnoff. And you don't want to be associated with losers, like people who fought hard and fought well, but lost. That's one thing. But people who, as you say, appear like limp, like a limp party that's afraid and self-flagellating.

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It's like, I don't that doesn't inspire me to put on the team jersey, even if, you know, these these voters who are answering these polls happen to be Democrats. When you look at, you know, their partisan leanings and their ideology. Here is a A man who got 1% in that poll asking who represents our party best, like who actually does stand for our values, 1% got this guy.

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You might know him as the recent vice presidential ticket candidate underneath Kamala Harris, Harris Jim Walz.

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Okay, well, okay, but like what specifically and why is he getting 1%?

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All right, so two men sensing an opportunity and clearly maneuvering to exploit it. That would be Gavin Newsom of California, who's now launched his podcast where he's having on conservative stalwarts. Well, Bannon says he's not a conservative. He's a populist. He's an America first populist. But Charlie Kirk is conservative. Those are two of his first two guests.

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I have to say I'm really against this. Charlie's going to be on tomorrow. I'll talk to him about it. But I just think what's happening now,

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is he's training for 2028 against JD Vance and every conservative who goes on that podcast is helping him they're all helping him train I don't it's like training Drago instead of Rocky like why are you doing that you're training the wrong person this person actually doesn't respect you or your ideals you're not going to change his mind you're not going to change the minds of the people who listen to his show you're just going to help him so anyway that's my feeling on it but in any event

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I see what he's doing. He's trying to look like he's, you know, moderating toward the center. He's not quite as far left. He's hearing people out. He's taking more reasoned positions on things like boys and girls sports and so on. OK, that's what he's doing. And then there's Chris Murphy from my adopted home state of Connecticut, who is an absolute nobody about a year ago.

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But then he apparently fell in love with some hard left media person. wannabe executive who's backed by Soros. And she's helping him on his social media. I don't know when their relationship started. I'm just going to say he's still married. He says he separated from his wife in November. No one's filed for divorce.

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And yet he's reportedly, according to Semaphore, in this relationship with this young hotshot female media person. In any event, his social media presence has certainly shot up. gotten better. And now he's suddenly gone from this milk toast. Oh, gee, golly gee willikers guy to fucking bad day, which he which he said the other day he tweeted out after the after the Chuck Schumer thing.

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Let me just give you a before and after. This is just November. And here's a post that he made on Election Day.

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OK, the name of the woman is Tara McGowan, the CEO of the left wing network of digital media sites known as Courier Newsroom. She's 39. He's 51. And now his social media presence, numbers and style have all changed dramatically. His ex post from Friday after Schumer caved is, hey, I just got home. Tough fucking day going live on Insta at whatever time. So what do you make of it?

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OK, so this is very interesting what's happened to the Democrat Party. This morning on The New York Times is The Daily Podcast. They likened it to what happened with Republicans in 2009, 2010, after Barack Obama won in a sweeping victory and won all, you know, the House, the Senate and the White House. And the Tea Party was born. And, you know, health care was shoved down our throats.

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It's totally cringy. That's exactly right. As the audience knows, and you know, I'm not above swearing myself, but it has to be authentic to you. I come by it very honestly. I come from a long line of foul-mouthed people. No, my Nana, my mom's mom, she swore like a sailor. And passed it down to me. It skipped a generation because my mom doesn't really do it and doesn't love when I do it either.

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But it has to be authentic to you, you know, or you just sound kind of sad and pathetic and like a glommer, like a wannabe. There is a question of whether he if Chris Murphy is not going to be the answer to 2028 and the Democrats problem, maybe he'll be the answer to the Schumer problem, which is a much easier answer. substitution, right? Like Schumer's 200 years old.

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And as you say, represents this wing of the party that's really anachronistic and kind of just young people in general are over the Mitch McConnell's and the Chuck Schumer's of the world. Chris Murphy at least has the advantage of relative youth at 51. And this came up when he was on Meet the Press yesterday. Here it is.

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So that there's another like that's been the message for the past few days. We may not have a democracy soon. Jasmine Crockett was saying it to like, I'm not sure we're ever going to be able to vote again. Like the Democrats need to do something drastic right now or we're going to lose the country. I mean, I don't agree with that in any way, shape or form.

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But I I actually think that message is going to resonate with the blue base. What do you think?

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And the Republicans just wanted one thing, which was to fight the finds some way to fight these guys. And they were likening that to what we're seeing now with Dems. Here are the numbers according to the polls we saw over the weekend. First, there's CNN saying that, okay, let's see.

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No. So you mentioned Joe Rogan and there has been this sort of weird panic on the left and our own Joe Rogan. Of course, the irony being Joe Rogan was there. Joe Rogan, he was of the left. He was a Bernie supporter.

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They drove him out of the party with their insanity, their woke insanity, the lies about covid, the crackdowns on Joe for his truths about covid, all sorts of things, you know, that drove a lot of us further to the right. including Rogan. But the answer to their absence now of Joe Rogan in their party does not appear to be Michelle Obama. So far, no.

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She got no percentages whatsoever as the leader of the party, which is interesting because Think of all the buzz around her when we thought Joe had to step down after that June debate. He's got to go. Could it be Kamala? Well, she's not going to win. What about Michelle? Oh, would she do it? She was one of the main names, if not the main name mentioned. But now nobody sees her as a party leader.

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And apparently Michelle Obama does not see herself as a party leader. a party leader because when she talks about like her time in the white house, Barack running, it's all negative on this new podcast. I mean, it's exactly what we thought that she, it's very clear. She hated being a first lady. She hated being in Washington. She doesn't like the fact that Barack was president.

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I mean, she just has nothing but negative things to say. Here's just one small, she doesn't, she doesn't like openly get, you know, caustic But she makes it pretty clear that this has never been a good idea in her mind. Here's Sot 15 with her and her brother, Craig, who's her co-host.

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The Democratic Party's favorability rating stands at just 29%, a record low dating back to 1992, and a drop of 20 points In just four years since January of 2021, a drop of 20 points and a record low at 29 percent. We saw similar numbers out of NBC. So it's not a one off. NBC shows the Democratic Party with just a 27 percent positive rating.

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There's a lot in there, Glenn. That does not sound like somebody who is in favor of his run for president or frankly in favor of him. Like he was smart and ambitious. Think about if that's how like that's why you thought that your spouse was going to run for and possibly become president. I mean, he's smart. He's ambitious. None of what Barack Obama actually ran on. Right.

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I want to change the world. I want to heal the country. Hope and change what like she wasn't buying it. And it doesn't sound like she buys it to this day.

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I know. And she's also out on David Geffen's yacht with Oprah. And then, yeah, her memoir was named Becoming. Look how, look at me, Becoming with her big face on the front. Like, okay, you know, she's a little drunk on her own wine, but not on Barack's, which is just interesting to me.

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At this point, after having been first lady twice, thanks to him, let's face it, Michelle Obama was not some star in her own right. She was a lawyer, I think at Sidley and Austin in Chicago. which is fine. It's fine. It's no great shakes. I've been in Chicago. I've practiced law there for many years. So it's fine. It's fine.

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So she took her Harvard law degree and like got a job with a corporate law firm. Fine. Literally nobody would have known her name if that's how she had chosen to spend her life. We know who she is because of him, because he became president. He was a character and had a lot of, there were a lot of reasons behind his election, but she still, to me, sounds bad. bitter.

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And even knowing that divorce rumors and she's not showing up for him, whether it's at the Jimmy Carter funeral or the Trump inauguration basketball game he just went to in LA when visiting their daughters and then dinner with the daughters was not there. Here she is talking about it. If it were me, I would say something nice about him. I would say like, He's just so charming. It was meant to be.

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I knew he could heal the earth in the way he did. There was only one who could do it, and it was my husband, Barack Obama, whatever. Then she gets on to talking a little bit about him personally, and this is how that sounded. Plot 18.

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uh... fifty five percent negative so they're underwater by twenty eight points a record low for the democrat party in more than thirty years of polling Why?

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So can I just say, she stole that from a comedian who's all over Instagram. That little bit is all over Instagram. Forgive me, I can't remember the guy's name, but he does this whole bit about how he goes, he goes golfing with a guy whose wife just died and he comes home and the wife's like, how's he doing? Fine. well, he knows nothing, right? It's like a thing.

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So I don't even know if that's real, but my point is simply that to me, none of the clips, cause we have 10 of them. I'm not going to go through all of them. Sound to me like a person who looks at the husband with any sort of stars in the eyes still. And it is possible. It is possible decades into marriage. I can attest to that to still have stars in your eyes for your loved one.

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Right. Right. Well, that's to me what she embodies. She's constantly negative and full of grievance, notwithstanding the enormous riches that this country has rained down on her. This country has done nothing to her other than treat her, as you point out, like royalty.

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Even though she said this is the first time in my adult life I'm actually proud of my country when when he got either nominated or elected, whichever doesn't make a difference. First time ever, really, this country where you got you went to Princeton, you went to Harvard Law School, you wound up a successful lawyer. You never found a way to be proud of your country before that? OK.

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And ever since has been bitching about her life on the yachts and in the multimillion dollar home in Martha's Vineyard and the homes in Hawaii and Chicago and D.C. and the still controlling the levers of power and going up as the star speaker at the DNC. She's still bitter. Check back in. Still bitter. OK, we're still not over it.

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There's no amount of money or political power or success or number of memoirs called Becoming. Maybe we should just say it. Beautiful, stunning. That'll be the next for the follow-up. That's going to make this woman less bitter. I think it's who she is. And honestly, like this podcast...

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Now it's getting, I don't know, the second episode had 14,000 views where she had Issa Rae on there, 14,000 views a couple of days into it. I realize she's just getting started, but that's embarrassing for the former first lady, for the woman who was almost president being talked about as to step into the Joe Biden shoes. And so something's happening.

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I think with the Barack Obama at 4%, Michelle Obama not even on the list, and this podcast struggling to put real numbers on the board, I think the Democrat Party is over the Obamas.

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Exactly. I'll give you one more soundbite of Michelle with brother Craig and why they wanted to do this podcast. Stop 14.

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Because they lived in a small apartment, you see. Now, this is why Brother Craig is the co-host of this podcast, which let's face it, No one cares about brother Craig. We don't know brother Craig. If she were doing this with Barack, she might actually get some numbers on the board or with one of the daughters.

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You know, I think people are mildly interested in the daughters, but brother Craig, I'm sorry. We don't know him. No, don't care that you were physically close, whatever that means under a roof growing up. Um, I, I just feel like, look, maybe this is the new Joe Rogan thing. Maybe she too, like Chris Murphy dropping a fucking tough day.

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And this is Michelle Obama trying to be like her authentic self to be the new Rogan Glenn. But to me, the whole thing is just evidence of, you know, Democrats untethered, right? Like not understanding the way forward and just kind of throw the board. I'll give you the last word before we go to break.

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Talk about something that matters to the rest of us. Like, talk about the news. Talk about policy. Talk about something that matters to other people. By the way, it's very interesting. Without her speechwriters, she's a shadow of the woman we saw on stage at the DNC and elsewhere where she gives these. rousing speeches. She knows how to deliver it. She pauses it right, just the right moment.

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When it's just her, it's very flat. Okay, Glenn stands by. He stays with us. We'll get into Mahmoud Khalil, on which Glenn and I disagree, so that ought to be interesting, and much, much more. The New York Times actually speaking the truth now on COVID without acknowledging all of their falsehoods on the matter for years.

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We just sort of covered the Dems on Team Red and what Donald Trump is doing. The most recent legal controversy is not Mahmoud Khalil, which we'll get to, but these deportations of alleged gang members from Venezuela. So Trump and Tom Homan and Kristi Noem got some 250 or so deportations.

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alleged gang leaders onto a plane to be deported to El Salvador because the president of El Salvador has agreed to take them. We were paying him some six million dollars and he's agreed to take these folks, which most I think Americans would say, cool, great, too. But Not not these particular people, because they filed a legal challenge and said, you can't deport us.

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We are challenging your deploying the, quote, alien enemies act. against us. So what happened was Trump signed a proclamation to deploy this thing. It's from 1798. It's been deployed for the first time since World War II to remove these alleged gang members. It's only been used three times before to bar citizens of hostile enemy governments from the United States.

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And only during a declared war, Trump alleged that this gang is conducting irregular warfare against the U.S., Um, he's declared them a terrorist organization, them in the court and the cartels. And he's also claimed that they've conducted an invasion against the United States and therefore says he can deport them without really doing anything.

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You can just stick them on planes and send them out of the United States. So that is what has happened. Then they went into court, the ACLU and this group representing them democracy forward filed a lawsuit on behalf of, uh, these alleged gang members at 2 AM on Saturday, uh, and saying, you can't do this, you don't have the authority.

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And a judge, this judge, James Boasberg, chief judge in the District of Columbia, appointed by Barack Obama, sided with the plaintiffs saying, you cannot do this. And as he heard that there were three flights departing, like at that moment or within moments, to take these immigrants to El Salvador, he said, you have to stop it.

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You have to immediately halt the removals and return the flights to the United States, any flights that are in the air. My head is going to explode. This is so beyond the pale that he does not have this authority. This is absolutely outrageous in my view. But

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And the Trump administration said, I got a whole lot for you, which is giving you the Italian sign under the chin for no, to put it politely. The flights have already left U.S. airspace. They're in international airspace, though there's a dispute about, in particular, whether the third flight had, in fact, already left U.S. airspace. The first two look like they actually had.

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In any event, then the president of El Salvador posted a picture of these now prisoners coming into his jail saying, Oopsie. Too late to this judge. And as I review this Alien Enemies Act, Glenn, there's been it's old, but there's Supreme Court precedent on it saying there is no right for judicial review for good reason, because they do not wish the president's.

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in this particular department when it comes to wartime powers to be reviewable by a court. And the high court said pretty explicitly, well, we know that that will lead to some bad decisions or some bad results. We don't care. They wrote as follows. The Alien Enemy Act precludes judicial review of removal orders. This is years after World War II had ended, they wrote, in a case.

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Such great war powers may be abused, no doubt, but that is a bad reason for having judges supervise their exercise, whatever the legal formulas within which such supervision would nominally be confined. Accordingly, we hold that full responsibility for the just exercise of this great power may validly be left where the Congress has constitutionally placed it on the president of the United States.

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Not only did this guy review what Trump did, he's calling back flights of alleged gang members to the United States. To me, it's extraordinary. Your thoughts.

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Congress. Congress would have to impeach him. That's the way it works. If the judge doesn't have the purview to step in, as the Supreme Court has made it clear, they do not. They do not. Not in this department. Then the remedy is impeachment against the president. That's the way the separations of powers work.

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Well, that's different, but that's different. That's different because this, as I understand it, the reason that this was given the sort of no judicial review blessing is because it speaks to foreign policy during a time of war. So that's when the president's foreign power... foreign policy powers are at their peak and not reviewable.

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A judge cannot review President Trump saying, I'm going to bomb the Houthis or we're at war with Iran or whomever. That's not reviewable by Article 3 judges. And there are limits to the separations of powers and where a president can be checked. And when it comes to foreign policy, he's at the apex of his independent power.

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I agree with you on the term war. I agree with you on the term war, but he's also declared it an invasion. And that's really what's going on here. I mean, he declared this an invasion, given the fact that we had between 10 and 20 million illegals come in under Joe Biden. And that's I mean, that's covered in the Alien Enemies Act invasions.

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And he's using that declaration to say, you're out and I'm not going to cross T's and dot I's. I'm putting you on a plane. And it's not like they don't know anything about these guys. Today, they put out the numbers. 261 were sent to El Salvador. El Salvador, 137 were deported under this act. Um, they know who these guys are. They, I like the government is saying these are gang members.

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Right. What are you going to do? And that that is actually also reflected in the CNN poll because they asked, name the Democratic leader you feel best reflects the core values of the party. And this is among Democratic aligned adults. The largest recipient of votes was no one. 30% said no one, no one best reflects the core values of the Democrat Party.

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I say alleged cause I have no idea, but the government is saying we've done our homework. Tom Homan is saying, and they're one definitely illegals and two members of against criminal gangs that we've declared terrorist organizations. So there's a few things. They're alleged terrorists. They're allegedly part of this war, and they're allegedly part of this invasion.

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I just think there's no question that Trump is going to be upheld here. He has the power to do this. And I actually think this judge could be in serious trouble. I actually think this judge may get admonished by the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals, and if not by them, then by the U.S. Supreme Court.

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That's the difference to anybody who will take you. If you can go to Canada, go to Canada. So just stay out of the United States. That's all I care about. Like, don't come here illegally or you could wind up on a midnight flight to El Salvador. It's not going to end well for you. And if Tom Holman has reason to believe you're part of Trenda Aragua, so much the worse for you.

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Like, don't do anything that's going to make Tom Holman think that because it got so out of control under Joe Biden that we're now at this point. Invasion, extraordinary powers, flight, you're gone. And federal judges are losing their minds. OK, which brings us to Mahmoud Khalil. So The audience, I think, knows my stance on this because I did a weekend podcast.

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If not, the short stance is I believe the government has every right to deport him, notwithstanding the fact that he's a green card holder and married to an American, which is really kind of an irrelevance legally. But the green card is not an irrelevance. And he's deportable under several different statutes. He's done a number of things that can get him deported.

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I think some of his speech is grounds enough, but he's actually behaved. First of all, first of all,

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The next in line with just 10% was AOC, who's just about tied with Kamala Harris at 9%. Bernie Sanders at 8%. These are all bad numbers. These are clearly not the party leaders if you're only getting 9% or 10%. But interestingly... Coming in at 4% is Barack Obama, who is tied with Jasmine Crockett.

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Even Joe Biden cut ties with UNRWA because it was working with Hamas post 10-7. Even the Democrats did that. This is not a partisan position.

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To some extent, I agree with that. But we're getting sidetracked because even though the guy worked for UNRWA, which I do believe is working for Hamas, that's we can we can table that. We can put that to the side. I don't think there's any question this guy supports what Hamas did on 10-7. Any question whatsoever. He was wearing a shirt. First of all, he worked for UNRWA.

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Second of all, he referred to it as armed resistance, what the Palestinians did. He said that. It's on tape that we aired it on the show on Saturday. That's not arms resistance. That's terrorism, what happened on 10-7. But you don't need any of that. I'll give away all that, what I just said.

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Let's just look at what he did as the spokesperson for this group, Columbia University Apartheid... I can't remember the acronym, but it's, you know, the group. C-U-A-D, I think it was, Divest. And he served as their spokesperson. That was the group that took over Hamilton Hall and engaged in the encampments on Columbia University.

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Hamilton Hall alone had so many crimes we could spend all day talking about. Was Khalil there? He was... Not that we know of. We don't believe he was there, but he was the chief negotiator. No, it matters when you're the spokesperson that's literally written into the immigration and the terrorism statutes. If you are the spokesperson for a group that espouses or supports terror, you're out.

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That's all they have to prove. Spokesperson is enough. And he was a spokesperson by every account that you hear of his behavior. He was going in there daily to speak with Columbia University administrators saying, this is what we need. You need to divest entirely from Israel or you're going to get more Hamilton Halls. That's it. That's all we need to deport him.

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Yes, Jasmine Crockett, who nobody ever even heard of six months ago, but is out there doing her like dancing videos and trying to be like a new version of AOC. But unbelievably, Obama and Jasmine Crockett are tied for who best reflects the core values of the party, which tells us what?

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But a lot of the ones who show up are like Jewish Voices for Peace, which is as Hamas supported.

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Let's not pretend that they represent the dominant Jewish voice on the issue.

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Inside the encampment, Glenn, you're talking like inside the encampment. So, yes, he would go and participate in this probably Jewish Voices for Peace Shabbat dinner, which, again, they're hard partisan Hamas supporters.

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While he was stopping, while this group that he was affiliated with was stopping Jews from attending the buildings they wanted to attend, crossing campus when they wanted to cross campus, professors, too. Like, I'm sure I'm super glad he had Shabbat dinner while he was stopping Jews from exercising their rights on the campus.

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You 100% can when you're talking about terror and immigration. We're talking about apples and oranges. That's a very different thing. You can't charge somebody with crime by thought or by affiliation unless it's an actual conspiracy. But we don't have to prove that he committed a crime. We don't have to prove that. Although I believe he probably did if he's the spokesperson for this group.

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then you could prove you could allege extortion. You could allege conspiracy. Now, Alvin Bragg is unlikely to do that, but that doesn't mean crimes haven't been committed by this guy. We'll have to see where the evidence goes. They're looking into that right now, including the DOJ. But you don't have to prove a crime. It's enough that he did it. If he if he

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did these things, if he acted as a spokesperson for this group that did commit crimes on the campus of Columbia, he's out. You can get him out under numerous provisions under immigration law for criminality, for supporting terror, for espousing terror, and then ultimately for the Marco Rubio Secretary of State thing that says if you're a threat to foreign policy, you're gone.

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You don't have to prove anything other than Marco Rubio reasonably believes that.

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It Okay. There's nothing unreasonable about saying being the spokesperson for an on-campus terror group means you violated your terms of staying here and your green card is getting revoked.

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They were demanding that Colombia divest. They were demanding that Colombia... Exactly, but that's not a Hamas.

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The American students... The American students cannot be deported for having done that. But someone here on a green card can be. If they had... Trump is not running around trying to deport people who protested on behalf of the Palestinians in Dearborn, Michigan, without committing crimes. He is not doing that.

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The reason this guy... And he's not going to, Glenn. Let's be honest. The reason this guy got caught in the crosshairs is because they unleashed hell on that Columbia campus. They behaved criminally. His group, of which he was a spokesman, whom he was defending and making demands on behalf of in dealing with the university daily. That's why he's getting deported, not because he's pro-Palestinian.

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To try and depict him as a Hamas supporter, that is... Yeah, no, he does look like a Hamas supporter to me. Of that, I have very little doubt.

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I'm not talking about his appearance. I'm talking about the T-shirt, which has some guy with the head exploding and his behavior at... which is basically an arm of Hamas. Just ask Joe Biden. That's why we pulled our support. There is evidence that he's a Hamas supporter, but I don't have to prove that. So it's pointless to spend too much time here. We have deprived somebody.

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We've pulled somebody's green card because he has schizophrenia. Tell me we can pull people's green cards for things like that, for violating the terms of their visa. We've put we say, you know what? You violated the terms that we gave you the permission to stay here. So so it's over.

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But we can't pull it for somebody who's the spokesperson for a group that's banging down the doors, that's smashing windows with hammers, that's intimidating Jewish students on campus. That's a farce. Marco Rubio can do it. Pam Bondi can do it. President Trump can do it. You can do it whether he's committed a crime or whether he hasn't, whether he's just engaged in these behaviors.

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And by the way, just because he wasn't charged, Alvin Bragg doesn't mean he did not commit extortion or conspiracy, even though hundreds and hundreds.

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Not even the Trump administration is saying that would not have been. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You're misstating it. A conspirator would not have been in Hamilton Hall necessarily. The conspirator may have been. He wasn't in Hamilton Hall, Megan.

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I that's my understanding. I've already said that. I've already said that. I've already said that.

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Why are you arguing with me? I already gave you this point. I already gave you this point. It's pointless for us to keep going back and forth. What I'm saying is that, of course, the cops wouldn't have arrested him. He was the negotiator. He was the spokesperson. He was the one in there with Columbia saying, sure is a nice university you have here. Shame if anything happened to it.

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You could charge conspiracy. You could charge extortion. Whether it's been done or not is irrelevant. He violated the terms of his permission slip to be here, and he can be deported for that alone. Never mind whether he actually crossed a criminal line, actually espoused or supported terrorism.

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Listen to Alan Dershowitz. He's... Alan Dershowitz goes off about this group every other day, what they've done to him, how they targeted him. Look, it's don't say like, oh, well, they're Jewish voices and they're against and they're in favor of Mahmoud Khalil. If they're Jewish voices for peace, they're totally unpersuasive to me. They they've got a dog in this hunt.

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We've seen that repeatedly with that group. It's fine. He doesn't. I do think he's a Hamas supporter. One hundred percent. I believe that. But it's not necessary to my argument if he associates with terror. If he poses a threat to the United States, either or, he can be deported. If he endorses or espouses terrorist activity, he can be deported.

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If he violates the term of his visa, he can be deported. Or if the Secretary of State has reasonable grounds to believe that he poses a serious adverse foreign policy consequence to the United States, he can be deported. He's done. He's out. This is not going to work out well for him. And his hopes of becoming an American citizen are over.

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I'm going to give you a point on our earlier discussion about the trend to Aragua, alleged gang members being deported, because I did ask my team, like, what happens to them when they go to El Salvador, which is, I confess, a question I had not asked myself. And here's what the Associated Press is reporting, that the El Salvadorian justice minister has said that those held at this facility were

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will never return to their communities, but will only be held for a period of one year, but it's renewable. So, you know, if you're going down the lane of they may not be guilty, I concede this is potentially problematic with the justice that they'll be facing on the other end. But I stand by the fact that Trump had the right to do it in any event. But I concede that

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There's some problems there on the due process and over in El Salvador. What a shock. Okay, let's move on because we have problems of our own here in the United States and they relate to the New York Times in many ways. But here's today's way. Unbelievably, unbelievably, the New York Times comes out with a piece dated yesterday, March 16th, by opinion columnist Zeynep Tufekci.

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We were badly misled about the event that changed our lives. We were badly misled. Somebody online changed it to we badly misled you about the event that changed our lives. And that's a much more accurate headline from the New York Times. Glenn, this is so infuriating to me.

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the whole thing is about stuff you've known your audience has known me and mine too and and most people who have been independent thinkers or certainly as part of right-wing media people who listen to rumble oh we've known this for years since 2021 but here they are 2025 with an ah aha moment on the lab leak as the origin of COVID and how those in charge misled us.

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I'll just give you a couple of highlights from the piece and then let you take it. She starts by pointing out in 2020, when people started speculating about a lab accident being the spark behind the pandemic, they were treated like kooks and cranks. By whom, again? Zeynep? Who is treating them like kooks and cranks? Could it have been the New York Times? Anyway, okay.

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Many public health officials and prominent scientists dismissed the idea as a conspiracy theory, insisting the virus had emerged from animals. And when EcoHealth Alliance lost a grant because it was doing this so-called gain-of-function research, no fewer than 77 Nobel laureates and 31 scientific societies lined up to defend the organization.

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So the Wuhan research was totally safe and the pandemic was definitely caused by natural transition. It certainly seemed like consensus. We have since learned, however, that to promote the appearance of consensus, some officials and scientists hid or understated crucial facts, misled scientists.

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at least one reporter, she's speaking of Don McGann, who worked for the New York Times, orchestrated campaigns of supposedly independent voices and even compared notes about how to hide their communications. The reason she wants us to know that it was probably a lab leak and that we were so grossly misled is because she

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People need convincing that the next pandemic is only an accident away, basically now that RFKJ is in charge of HHS and she's seeing like measles and other problems that she cares about. So she really, really wants us to trust our public health entities again.

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Not him, but like the scientists and the Nobel laureates and the Dr. Fauci's of the world, because they must have credibility in the wake of all these online influencers or bad faith actors who she later refers to as follows. And I think she means you and me and others like us. Some of the loudest proponents of the lab leak theory weren't just earnestly making inquiries.

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They were acting in terrible faith, using the debate over pandemic origins to attack legitimate, beneficial science, to inflame public opinion, to get attention. She goes on to say these have truths and strategic deceptions made it easier for people with the worst motives to appear trustworthy while discrediting important institutions where many earnestly labor in the public interest.

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Patrick's Day. I'm sure we'll be celebrating later. Meanwhile, they're not celebrating over on Team Blue because the tensions on that side of the aisle, as I said, are rising and quickly. By the day, there's like there's a civil war happening right now within the Democratic Party. And there are calls to oust longtime Senate leader Chuck Schumer. Chuck Schumer, what? He was untouchable.

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And it's so belated. I mean, even other mainstream news organizations have published this kind of piece years earlier. Like, they are literally the last to the party. And now they want credit for saying, oh, we were misled. We had no idea. And you mentioned The Times' own past sins. Apoorva Mandevelli, who is, she's their COVID reporter.

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She replaced that guy, Don, I think his last name is McGann, if memory serves. In any event, she replaced him. McNeil, sorry, I think McGann might have been a White House lawyer. Anyway, she's their COVID reporter. In 2021, not only did she dismiss the possibility that this thing came from a lab, but she claimed to say otherwise was racist.

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She tweeted out the following, "'Someday we will stop talking about the lab leak theory and maybe even admit it's racist roots.'" Guess who's not mentioned in Zeynep Tufekci's piece? A poor of a man to belly. I mean, it's insane what they've done to us here.

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They're not afraid. Limp is a rough word, but I think you're right. It applies. That is kind of how you feel when you look at the Democrats today. OK, so let's get to the point that you made. You're exactly right. Both of these polls, CNN and NBC, seem to try to get at why. Why are the Democrats so unhappy? And it is not because Team Blue refuses to compromise with Trump, who has a mandate and

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That's it. I mean, you read this piece and it's just, it's so infuriating. And she writes, only an honest conversation will lead us forward. Right. So you need to get honest, New York Times, about your role in all of this. And this piece doesn't even come close. At no point, it doesn't acknowledge any of its own bad reporting or mistakes.

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I mean, the number of, I just went, I just did like a quick search of New York Times pieces. This one is from Hold on. July of 2023. By this point, we had plenty of reason. We already knew about the conspiracy behind that Lancet piece and the other Nature piece and the collaboration amongst Fauci and these virologists to say it's definitely not the lab leak. We already knew.

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We knew about that a year plus earlier. But in July of 2023... Once again, they're saying, oh, two virologists testified that they remain convinced that the coronavirus was natural in origin and said Fauci did not exert influence over a study they wrote.

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And they're completely on the side of those virologists trying to tell us that this originated not in a lab, but in nature, just like Fauci maintained. Glenn, it's always a pleasure. I was a little spicy today, but it's great to disagree. And I love that our audience gets to hear your POV.

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Likewise, likewise. And I totally, I love hearing that point of view, especially from the point of Palestinian protesters, because that, you are allowed to support Palestine. You are allowed to be against Israel. Those are all fine things to do and be and say. It's just, you know, now when you cross over into... you know, potentially more Hamas support, but that's in dispute.

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And when you're not a citizen, things change because there's not equal rights between green card holders and American citizens. Not yet. Glenn, a pleasure. I'll see you over on Rumble.

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to change the country. It is not that at all. The Democrats are mad about any compromise. They want their party leaders to get in there and fight and stop Trump. There's still the party. There is some still some strain within it that is very, very TDS afflicted. This is CNN. Most Democratic aligned adults say the party should focus on trying to stop the GOP agenda. And that's OK.

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I'm going to stay for a minute on this New York Times thing. Okay, I've just got to talk to you about this for a minute because my blood is boiling over this. I'm so angry. Of course, it wasn't the New York Times. It wasn't only the New York Times. The Post has got a great piece from last June, I think it was, where they just ripped these folks to shreds because they are too.

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A New York Times writer was blaming partisan politics. for the lab leak cover-up. There was a piece by an op-ed person back then. They ran a molecular biologist essay, Alina Chan, back then, talking about this. So this person blamed partisan politics for covering up that this was a lab leak. And the post pointed out at the time, it wasn't just New York Times. It was CNN. It was MSNBC.

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They called the lab leak a debunked conspiracy theory. NPR falsely asserted, quote, scientists debunk lab accident theory of pandemic emergence. Reading here from the New York Post again, June of 24, social media companies outright censored lab leak claims. Facebook banned a post opinion column by Stephen Mosier for speculating on the possibility that it was a lab leak.

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They write as recently as Monday, again, in June of 24. An AP story bizarrely claimed, quote, many scientists believe the virus most likely emerged in nature, end quote. There's no scientific information backing the lab leak explanation. It's just... It's unbelievable how we were gaslit.

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And the New York Times wants to pretend that it was just the experts, it 100% was the experts, but that the media had no role, that they were not complicit. But they were fully complicit. And Glenn's exactly right. Now they're desperate to try to cleanse their own hands because they need to have credibility going into the Trump years, especially under the awful, evil RFKJ.

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to tell you when our leaders are misleading us. That's what's happening here. It's infuriating. They have no credibility. No one believes them anymore. No, not those experts who ran these institutions under Joe Biden. I believe public health And the trust in it will resurrect slowly now under RFKJ, at HHS, under Bhattacharya, at NIH, and under McCary at FDA.

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I believe it will resurrect, but it's going to take some time. And by the way, the election of President Trump was a middle finger to all these institutes, too. In part, it was America saying, F you and what you did to us.

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You lied to us over the most consequential things affecting our lives, our health care, our loved ones dying and our ability to see them, our children and their wellness in schools, the masking on toddlers, nonstop. F you. You're all fucking fired. All of you fired. So it's like it's all baked in. And now The New York Times has to try to whitewash what it did.

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So you'll believe it when it tells you that Kennedy's evil and you need to trust them, need to trust The Times. I just want to go back for a second. Just give me three minutes on this, okay? Because the times comes to this realization in, what are we in now? March of 2025. It's literally been five years since these lies were told.

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And I went back just to see, it was June of 21 that we had on our show, Josh Rogan, who worked at the Washington Post, did work at the Washington Post and does, that's fine. To their credit, they employ Josh. But he wrote a book on his own that took a dive into this.

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So so the majority want that. In just 2017, when Trump began his first term, 74 percent. of the Dems thought the Dems should work with Republicans. Okay, now it's only 42% who want Dems to work with Republicans. And just doing the math, it must be somewhere over, you know, 50, 58% who say fight, stop the GOP agenda.

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And he did some articles in the Post also raising questions about whether this was from a lab and the Wuhan lab and how secure it was and the so-called bat lady there and how she was working with EcoHealth Alliance, which was U.S. government-funded, on gain-of-function research, which is the very same kind of research that caused the coronavirus. And we had him on in June of 21, you guys.

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It was one year into the pandemic. Now we're four years post that. And the New York Times is like, oh. We think it was from a lab. We were being misled. How did that happen? How are we so misled? How did all these experts mislead us on EcoHealth Alliance? It's just willful blindness at best on their part.

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More than likely, it was an active cover-up because they had a vested interest in the messages that were being handed down. They were pro-cover, a pro-lockdown. They were pro these over-the-top so-called health procedures, and they didn't want anything undermining the message.

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And just like this accidentally happening, you know, could accidentally happen to anyone, anywhere, worked with their narrative. And plus, they couldn't have their experts undermined at any part of the message. If Fauci was wrong about this being a naturally caused virus, then he could be wrong about masks. He could be wrong about distancing.

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He could be wrong about lockdowns and school closures, right? He needed to be upheld at all costs. And by the way, she doesn't even fucking mention Fauci in her piece. She mentions Francis Collins, but she keeps Fauci's... fingers squeaky clean, which they're definitely not. All the stuff she mentioned with Francis Collins, Fauci did too. And that's not my opinion. Go back and look.

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He can come sue me if I'm saying the wrong thing. He is also outed in the Francis Collins emails that Republicans got their hands on in 2022. that showed all this coordination with the virologist behind the scenes. They both were in there trying to get them to not say lab leak. That was outed by Republicans in 2022. It was January of 2022 after the Republicans found those emails.

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They had taken over control of the House. They demanded all these emails. And then they released them. That we knew all of this for sure. And I did a talking points memo. Steve, find me the number of that episode if you have time. Um, you can go back and look at it. It was one of the best pieces we ever did on the show. one of the absolute best.

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And it, it lays out exactly how they did it, how they whitewashed lab leak right out of the conversation or tried how they pressured these virologists who, who the early signs from all of them and emails were saying, Holy shit, this, this looks like lab leak that we manipulated this thing in the lab. I cannot get past it into definitely not a lab lab leak theories, racist. It was natural origin.

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It was all there in the emails, black and white. January 2022, that's three years ago, New York Times. Where was your peace then? You spent the next three years doubling, tripling, quadrupling down on natural origin. They're so dishonest. And now she wants credit for being the one to speak truth to power and kind of own it. how they'd been misled. Oh my God, what a lie.

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She doesn't even go over the times of sins. Even to say we were mistaken, we were misled. Episode 241, if you want to watch it, here's a sample of our broadcast in January. I think it was January 14th, 2022. House Republicans finally got their hands on emails between doctors Fauci, Collins, and some of the world's top virologists.

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It turns out the very officials who dismissed that as a fringe conspiracy theory in the press were being told exactly the opposite by the world's top experts as early as February 2020. They had studied the virus's genetic makeup. you see, and found the insertion of a genetic sequence that makes a virus more transmissible, a furin cleavage site.

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52% of Democratic-aligned adults say the Democratic Party is taking the wrong direction with the Republican Party. And then jumping to the NBC poll, similar numbers where they say, hold on, here it is. Okay. No more compromising, they say. Almost two-thirds of Democrats, 65%, say they want congressional Democrats to stick to their positions, even if that risks sacrificing bipartisan progress.

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One of those scientists on that call with Fauci and Collins, a Brit, Sir Jeremy Farrar, sent a follow-up email to Collins and Fauci the next day, expressing support for the lab leak theory. He relayed the thoughts of two more experts, Robert Gehry of Tulane University and Michael Farzen of the Scripps Research Institute. Robert Gehry, he said, can't think of a plausible natural scenario.

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And Farzan was, quote, bothered by the fear in sight and having a hard time explaining that outside the lab. Christian Andersen of the Scripps Research Institute put the lab leak theory at 60 to 70 percent likely. Two days after those scientists went to Collins and Fauci and told them this thing likely came from a lab, five of them authored a paper. They did a complete 180.

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concluding that this virus was clearly, quote, that's a quote, clearly not from a lab and clearly not manipulated by man. Fauci wanted the lab leak theory gone. He later called it a shiny object, reassuring colleagues it would go away. Fauci was behind much of the U.S. funding in China. He admitted approving grants for EcoHealth Alliance, a group that researched coronaviruses in the Wuhan lab.

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EcoHealth's CEO, Peter Daszak, was one of the first to beg officials to reject the lab leak theory. And tellingly, he warned that the public release of the virus's genetic sequencing would bring, quote, very unwelcome attention. We laid it all out for you guys. January 2022. If you're a New York Times reader, you're reading it in March 2025 for the first time.

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I'm sorry, but this is just such a dereliction. All the stuff. You heard me talking back then about Jeremy Farrar. Here she is in her piece. Spooked, the authors reached out for advice to Jeremy Farrar, now the chief scientist at the World Health Organization. Farrar reviewed their draft and suggested to the authors that they rule out the lab leak even more directly. They complied.

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She talks about Christian Andersen, who you heard me mention there, and how he wrote internally in these Slack messages between them. The lab escape version of this is so frigging likely to have happened because they were already doing this type of work and the molecular data is fully consistent with that scenario. All the same names. Peter Daszak, who you heard me mention there.

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She finally has gotten around to all of them. Three years after this was known, thanks to those House Republicans who got their hands on the emails, who I'm sure she just totally ignored as what some of these terrible influencers acting, quote, in terrible faith, using the debate over pandemic origins to attack legitimate beneficial science to inflame public opinion.

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That's her just trying to justify why they they didn't do any of this. She writes, that's also why it might be tempting for these officials or the organizations they represent to avoid looking too closely at mistakes they made, at the ways that while trying to do such a hard job, they might have withheld relevant information and even misled the public.

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Okay, look at her still bending over backward to run cover for these people who 100% actively misled us. Fauci is a villain. He's a villain. What sparked Bobby Kennedy's resurrection from the disinformation dozen leader to the health secretary right now? It was his book, The Real Anthony Fauci, again, who she still doesn't mention when she's going over the list of people who misled us.

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Even Francis Collins just gets barely a passing mention. It was Fauci. It was Francis Collins. It was the CDC. It was all these virologists who were being controlled by Collins and Fauci. Those are the villains. Still, the New York Times won't admit it. Still, they run cover. She mentions Robert Gary. He's also, I think, referenced in this piece. We had him on this show in 2022.

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We were stunned he agreed to come on, quite frankly. And here's a bit of how that went. But forgive me, wasn't it just days, wasn't it just two days later that you reversed yourself and said, actually, no, okay, I forget what I said about it coming from a lab.

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Just 32% want them to make legislative compromises with Trump. It was almost exactly the opposite in April of 2017. 59% of Dems said they wanted to make compromises with Trump. Again, now 65% say no, no compromises, which leads us, to Chuck Schumer, whose behavior was somewhat ill-timed.

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That, too, is a spicy interview where I really pressed him on his sudden reversal and how much influence Fauci and Collins had over him. It's all spelled out now. I mean, literally, Fauci, I think, has one mention in this piece. One. It's just, it's really infuriating. And look, as Glenn said, it is, this isn't like some long infomercial for independent media.

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It's just the facts of why nobody trusts the New York Times or CNN or MSNBC anymore. They failed us at one of the most consequential moments in U.S. history. They failed us. And instead of doing a true mea culpa, like a true, we screwed it up and we're sorry. They just now want to say we were misled. Look, I like Jake Tapper. We're friendly. But he he did something similar.

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He could have come out with that book and said, I want to own all my own mistakes, my own failure to question the lies being pushed on us by officials at the White House about Joe Biden's health. But instead, he just tried to join on with the we were misled crowd. I was you know, I was one of the innocent without acknowledging. And I misled you. I misled you.

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When whole swaths of other media got it, they happened to be right of center or independent who got the issue with Joe Biden's health because we could see it with our own eyes, who got that this thing likely came from the Wuhan lab where they were studying that coronaviruses and how to make them more dangerous to humans. It's just...

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There can be redemption after massive fails, including in journalism, but there must first be an acknowledgement of the failure, of the sin in the case of the New York Times here. Without that, no, apology not accepted. mea culpa rejected, and you've made no progress with us whatsoever. None. We distrust you more than ever when you do things like this.

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All right, to end it on a happy note, and this is likely one of the many reasons why we officially became an award-winning podcast recently, because even some outsiders are recognizing the good work that goes on here at the MK Show, and frankly, just the trust that we have with our audience, which is thanks to all of you. Wanted to mention last week, we were nominated for an iHeart Podcast Award.

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I love the people at iHeart, I have to say. I know some of them, and they are good people. The woman who runs it is awesome, Julie. And we were nominated for Best Political Podcast. We were up against some interesting competition. Pod Save America, that's the former Obama guys, left wing. The NPR Politics Podcast, you know about them.

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Breaking Points with Crystal and Sagar and the Native Land Podcast. The winner was determined by a vote of a, quote, panel of blue ribbon podcast industry leaders, creatives, and visionaries. And guess what? We won. So that was exciting. That was fun.

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Two of our great, great producers who helped make the MK show possible, Lauren and Allison were down there in Austin, Texas to accept the reward there. They snapped this pic of the slide and, oh, we got to put their picture up. Steve, we'll get, we'll put their picture up of, There they are. Look, that's Lauren in the green dress, and there's Allison on the right. She's our booking producer.

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When you look at these polls, which came out after he announced he would vote for the continuing resolution to make sure that the government stayed open for the next six months, it's really just kicking the can for a bit before they can have the real fight. But in any event, he and a handful, eight Democrats came forward to say,

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These are two of the great people who make this show possible. We thought it'd be great to send them down there because why shouldn't they receive the award if we want it? We actually have got real hardware. And those are some of the sort of nameless folks who you guys probably don't know as well. You know Canadian Debbie. You know Steve.

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But Lauren Labruna and Allison Jordan are just two of the many others who help bring you the show every day. And I'm thrilled they got to be there and have fun in Austin. And they ran into Zach Levi, among others, down there and had a great time. So in any event, thanks to all of you for making that possible. Thank you to the iHeart voters and the iHeart crews for thinking it up in the first place.

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OK, enough about that. We will be back tomorrow with Charlie Kirk. Looking forward to asking him about going on Gavin Newsom's podcast. Is that a good idea for conservatives? Would love to hear from all of you before Charlie comes on. Send me an email, would you? Megan at Megan Kelly dot com. Is it a good idea or not? And then listen to our discussion with Charlie tomorrow. See you then.

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Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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We'll vote through to make sure that the government doesn't shut down. And now there's actual talk of bouncing him out as party leader, Glenn.

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Well, maybe not. New polls show record low support for the Democratic Party. Plus, a former first lady steps into the world of podcasting and totally bombs. We'll get to that with Michelle Obama. Joining me now, my pal Glenn Greenwald. He's host of Rumble's System Update. When it comes to grocery shopping and meal planning, it's often stressful and time-consuming.

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Yeah, I think that the Democrats don't necessarily I don't I can't tell, but I don't think they necessarily want you to hear about orange man bad. You know, they they don't like Republican ideals. They don't like, you know, certain things that Trump is doing. They do like the immigration policies. The polls show that. But the economy doesn't pull quite as well.

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So, I mean, I'm sure they do want Trump. fought on certain key things. You had Elon telling Larry Kudlow that we have to take a look at entitlements that led to all sorts of meltdowns in many corners, including Republican ones. Anyway, I can see how they might oppose Trump's agenda, real or perceived. But what we hear out of Democrat leaders is so much is just orange man bad. It's just OK.

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So there's very little to attach to in that. Here's a montage of the Democrats. and pundits melting down over Chuck Schumer.

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And by the way, in Chuck Schumer's defense, the reason he and some eight other Democrats decided to vote for the continuing resolution is they were worried that if the government shut down and the government workers got divvied up into essential and non-essential workers, which is what happens, the essential ones have to keep working even though there's a shutdown, that it would be like a

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like waving the red flag at the bull with Doge and Elon. Like, here's everybody who's essential and everybody else is not. And, you know, that's just like putting it all on the line. Go ahead and cut the ones who are not. So that was one of their main concerns. But the Democrats are so mad and so determined to fight Trump. They're not accepting those rationales.

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Here's some of the punditry around Schumer over the past couple of days.

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OK, and just one more. Hakeem Jeffries, who's, of course, the Democrats leader in the House, was asked on Friday, is it time to switch him out to find a new Senate leader? And here's how he answered it.

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That's significant that he just said next question. Now, by the next day, he had softened that and stood behind Schumer. But the fact that his instinct was not to support Chuck Schumer is very telling.

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Tufekci admits in her column that some officials hid crucial facts and misled the public in order to promote the appearance of consensus. In 2023, independent journalist Matt Taibbi revealed the Biden administration was working in conjunction with social media companies to censor information relating to COVID.

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Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, a Stanford professor and leading advocate against lockdowns, was censored and ostracized and smeared by then-NIH head Francis Collins, who called him a fringe epidemiologist. Joe Rogan, too, along with anyone who dared question the Biden administration's COVID dogma, was mocked by the media, including The Times, as anti-science. Ms.

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Tufekci's latest column comes after years of her promoting masks, despite the evidence showing they did not work, and attacking contrarian voices. For example, a November 2020 Times column is headlined, On masks and clinical trials, Rand Paul's tweeting is just plain wrong.

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The column reading, quote, mask wearing is courteous, a sound method to reduce the suffering from this terrible pathogen and help us get our lives back as much as possible. In May of 2021, Ms. Tufekci dared to question the CDC, asking if updated guidance stating vaccinated individuals need not wear masks was politically motivated.

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Can you believe this woman is now writing this for the New York Times? In September 2022, Ms. Tufekci authoritatively wrote, not only will a booster with the new vaccines decrease the likelihood of infection and severe illness and help reduce transmission of the virus, it could also decrease the likelihood of developing long COVID.

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That came a full year after the science showed the vaccine did not stop the spread of the virus. The New York Times finally playing some COVID catch up with zero admissions about its own failures in presenting facts. We don't forgive you. And that'll do it for your AM update. I'm Megyn Kelly. Join me back here for The Megyn Kelly Show.

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We are live and back from vacay on SiriusXM Triumph Channel, 111 at Noon East, on YouTube.com slash Megyn Kelly, and on all podcast platforms.

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That's donewithdebt.com. Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer's paving the way to keep the government open for another six months.

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Illinois Senator Dick Durbin, Nevada Senator Catherine Cortez Masto, New Hampshire Senator Maggie Hassan, Pennsylvania Senator John Fetterman, Michigan Senator Gary Peters, Hawaii Senator Brian Schatz, New York Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, New Hampshire's Jeanne Shaheen, independent senator from Maine, Angus King, all also voting to advance the bill.

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House Democrats like New York Congressman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, California Congressman Robert Garcia, and Massachusetts Congresswoman Ayanna Pressley slamming Senator Schumer and the others.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Monday, March 17th, 2025. And happy St. Patrick's Day.

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Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer resisting calls for his resignation as a deeply divided Democrat Party sinks to record low approval. President Trump invokes the Alien Enemies Act of 1798 to deport Trenda Aragua gang members. And a D.C. judge blocks the move.

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Axios reporting, quote, several members, including moderates, have begun voicing support for a primary challenge to Schumer, floating representatives AOC and Dan Goldman as possible candidates. Soros-backed progressive group Indivisible also calling for Senator Schumer to step down.

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The group releasing a statement over the weekend saying 82 percent of its leaders in New York and 91 percent nationwide voted in favor of calling for Mr. Schumer to step aside. House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries in a Friday presser initially refusing to affirm his support for Senator Schumer.

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However, by Saturday, Mr. Jeffries was appearing on MSNBC, providing some public support for Mr. Schumer, signaling leadership is sticking together, at least for now.

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Senator Schumer, who says he worried a shutdown would have given more power to President Trump and Doge, telling The New York Times, the interview podcast, he's still the best man to lead.

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As Democrats in Congress jockey over the future of their party, Democrat Party approval sinks to a record low in a new CNN poll. Democrat-aligned adults say 52% to 48% that the leadership is taking the Democrat Party in the wrong direction. 57% to 42% of Dems and Dem-aligned independents think Democrats should mainly work to stop the Republican agenda.

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The survey taken before Senator Schumer's deeply unpopular decision to support the CR rather than shut down the government. Among adults overall, the Democrat Party sits at a paltry 29% approval. That's a 20-point drop since January 2021 and a record low dating back to 1992.

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The Trump administration deporting hundreds of individuals under the Alien Enemies Act of 1798 in spite of a judge's order trying to block the move. The act allows the government to detain and deport people from enemy nations in wartime or those who have invaded America.

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President Trump on Friday invoking the act against Venezuelan gang Trenda Aragua, a recently designated foreign terrorist organization. The proclamation stating members of TDA have, quote, unlawfully infiltrated the U.S. and are conducting irregular warfare and undertaking hostile actions against the United States.

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On Saturday, the ACLU and a group called Democracy Forward filing a lawsuit alleging that the White House was preparing to deport five Venezuelans under this act. Chief Judge of the D.C. District Court James Boasberg initially ordering that those deportations be paused for two weeks. The judge later in the day expanding his order to, quote, all non-citizens in U.S.

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custody subject to the Alien Enemies Act. This, notwithstanding the fact that the Supreme Court has held that the Alien Enemies Act precludes judicial review of any removal orders, holding, quote, such great war powers may be abused, no doubt, but that is a bad reason for having judges supervise their exercise.

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Special Envoy Steve Witkoff says Russia is coming closer to accepting a peace deal as intensity on the battlefield ramps up. And a new NBC poll has good news for President Trump. All that and more coming up in just a moment in a busy AM update.

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In a truly extraordinary order, Judge Boasberg went further, verbally mandating the immediate return of two planes already airborne, carrying deportees to Honduras and El Salvador. The Associated Press reporting the verbal directive to return the planes was not included in the judge's written order.

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The president of El Salvador, Nayib Bukele, posting on X early Sunday morning a headline detailing the judge's order and the caption, oopsie, too late, with a laughing emoji. Shortly after that, President Bukele published a video showing dozens of handcuffed men departing a U.S. plane and processing into an El Salvadorian prison complex.

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Secretary of State Marco Rubio posting on X, quote, We sent over 250 alien enemy members of Tren de Aragua, which El Salvador has agreed to hold in their very good jails at a fair price. Fox News reporting Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt says the Trump administration did not refuse to comply with a court order. Ms.

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Leavitt says, quote, the order, which has no lawful basis, was issued after terrorists, TDA aliens, had already been removed from U.S. territory. The next hearing is set for Friday. The Trump administration is appealing the judge's interference. Coming up, as the Ukrainian battlefield intensifies, U.S. and Russian officials inch closer to a ceasefire.

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Go to getjackedup.com and get started on your fitness journey today. As the war against Ukraine rages on, the U.S. and Russia inch closer to a ceasefire agreement. President Trump likely to speak on the phone later this week with Russian President Vladimir Putin, the second call since Mr. Trump's second term began.

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Special Envoy Steve Witkoff, fresh off a trip to Moscow, involving hours of talks with President Putin, telling CNN the two sides are closer than ever before.

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four years of crushing interest rates runaway inflation and reckless government spending and who is paying the price you are you might have bills stacking up you might have debt collectors on your back you might barely be able to keep food on the table and that's stressful Done with debt can be a way out.

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Mr. Witkoff says President Trump aims to finalize the deal within weeks, describing to CBS the issues both sides are hammering out.

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Russian forces currently control about 20% of Ukraine. Late last week, National Security Advisor Mike Walsh telling Fox News the Ukrainians may have to give up the Donbass region as part of a settlement. That region compromising about 9% of Ukrainian territory, the majority of its residents are primarily Russian speakers.

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ABC's Martha Raddatz pushing back on the notion that the Russians should be allowed to retain any captured territory.

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Late last week, Reuters reporting a Ukrainian government official acknowledging Kiev cannot recapture their territory through military force. The unnamed official saying, quote, Ukraine cannot recover all of its territory right now by military force. Yes, we understand this. We understand that some of our land will need to be returned diplomatically, which can, of course, take time.

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Ukrainian forces retreating from a small area of captured Russian territory in Kursk. The New York Times reporting the withdrawal comes, quote, amid a swift Russian advance backed by relentless airstrikes and drones. Ukrainian soldiers telling the Times the strategy now is about controlling defensive positions and preventing the Russians from opening a new front in this war.

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These guys have developed a new aggressive strategy, many of them actually, designed to get you out of debt permanently without bankruptcy and without loans. Done with debt will stand between you and your bill collectors. They can go head to head with their creditors, getting your balances reduced, your interest rates slashed, and penalties stopped.

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The fighting only intensifying as negotiators work toward peace. New polling from NBC News showing strong numbers for President Trump among registered voters. 44% saying the country is on the right track versus 54% saying it's on the wrong track. That happens to be the best polling in 20 years. NBC's national political correspondent Steve Kornacki putting those numbers into perspective.

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President Trump's approval rating also hitting his best ever mark as president, 47% approving to 51% disapproving. Among independents, the split is 30% who approve, 67% who don't. On immigration, the president scoring his highest marks, 55% of voters approve of Mr. Trump's handling of border security and immigration, compared to 43% who disapprove.

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56% say the president brings the right kind of change compared to just 18% who say he brings the wrong kind of change on immigration. For all of the media attacks against it, Doge faring all right. 46% say it's a good idea compared to 40% who say it isn't. On the economy, the president not faring quite as well. Just 18% of voters rating the economy as excellent or good.

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54% disapprove of Mr. Trump's handling of the economy. 44% approve. In recent weeks, the media focusing very heavily on concerns of recession.

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Treasury Secretary Scott Besson on Sunday's Meet the Press criticizing the media's coverage of the administration.

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Five years after the debut of Two Weeks to Slow the Spread, New York Times columnist Zeynek Tufekci dares to write, we were badly misled about the event that changed our lives. Really?

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Tufekci, whose own Times colleague, Apoorva Mandevilli, once suggested it was racist to suggest the virus came from a lab leak, now writes, quote, In 2020, when people started speculating that a laboratory accident might have been the spark that started the COVID-19 pandemic, they were treated like kooks and cranks. Ms. Mandevilli's tweet not specifically acknowledged anywhere in her piece. Ms.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and happy Monday. Have you gotten all your Christmas shopping done yet? I have not. And it is a stressor. It is... I have like... As your kids get older, you don't even really know what to buy. It was so much easier when they were younger.

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If George Stephanopoulos had said the judge found that. That the finding Miss Carroll failed to prove that she was raped. within the meaning of the New York penal law, does not mean she failed to prove that Mr. Trump raped her. If they want to say that, which I grant you is far less catchy, they would have been fine. I mean, that's the problem.

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They were trying to take this judge, trying to throw... E.G. and Carol a bone, but the judge knew that the judge could not declare Trump a rapist. So it's just kind of like, well, the finding that she didn't fit, that she didn't prove she was raped doesn't mean she failed to prove he raped her.

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As many people commonly understand the word rape, like all of this is so fucked up that the judge was doing this at all. Like, what are you talking about? The common understanding of the word rape? There is a statutory definition of the word rape. It was provided to the jury and they checked no when they were asked to decide whether Trump had done that.

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They check like this is an egregious statement by the judge anyway. But let me tell you, as somebody who does this all the time, talks about legal rulings and things that are dicey about people, we we bend over backwards, bend over backwards to make sure we track the exact language. Because if you don't, that's how you get in trouble.

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We're not perfect either, but if we screw it up, we'll come back on and correct it. We'll come back the next day and say, okay, here's what we meant to say. They never did that. I don't know whether Stephanopoulos had 10 producers in his ear saying over and over, not rape, not rape. I think they didn't say that.

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I think they did not do him a solid because they popped up that article that you just pointed out from the Washington Post as like his proof. You see? And so this segment was long. It was like 15 minutes long. That thing pops up and he's like, there, I have it right there because the Washington Post wrote this. And I guarantee you that's his team trying to help him out.

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Like, yeah, yeah, it's rape. It's rape. And what you really needed was a damn lawyer to say or someone who knows how to read a legal opinion to say that doesn't excuse his statements over and over that a jury found him liable for rape. It's not true. But the thing is, Eliana, they were I guarantee you the whole crew was so gleeful about attaching this word to the vile Trump.

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You have to prove when you're suing, when you are a public figure claiming that you have been defamed, as Trump was claiming. And by the way, to the point you raised initially, when that happens, as a public figure, people have the highest ability to say bad things about you.

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The First Amendment protects speech and it really protects speech about public figures and it really protects speech about political public figures or political acts taken by public figures. It's a political person in the public sphere that has the most protection you can get under the law. So that's why the media generally gets away with saying false things about politicians and

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as long as it doesn't reach this extremely high standard. And that high standard is it has to be malice. And what is said with malice? And what does that mean? It means with knowledge that it's false. Like I'm knowingly lying about you. I know you weren't found liable for rape. and I'm saying it anyway. Or the more frequent standard is the reckless disregard for its falsity. So you don't care.

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They collapsed. They gave in like that and quickly settled the case with President-elect Donald Trump after the network's top star, George Stephanopoulos, had been ruled by the judge to be required to sit for a deposition. He fought it. He didn't want to have to do it. And the judge late last week said, well, you have to. You said a bunch of dumb shit. You've been sued for defamation.

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So this is a scenario where this is what got Fox in trouble with Dominion, where Dominion's sending in letter after letter saying this isn't true. There's no evidence for it being true. Here's this that proves it's not true and that that proves it's not true. And all you have on the other side and saying it's true is like the unsupported declarations of Sidney Powell.

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That's how you get to reckless disregard of whether in fact it's true. So it has to be like, really, it can't just be like, I didn't do my homework. That's negligent. That's not reckless. Okay. So the standard is very high. And this is why I think that there were texts and there would be instant messaging between George and the team, all of that. That's all what the anchors use.

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And I used it many times too, at Fox and at NBC, where you're corresponding with your, Stephanopoulos guaranteed was corresponding with his producers during that whole segment. And I guarantee you that those communications don't reflect well on anybody and anyone involved. And it could possibly be the team maybe saying it's sexual abuse. It's sexual abuse. And George refusing to acknowledge that.

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And then perhaps the team finally just realized they weren't going to bend him and threw up that Washington Post article. But whatever it is, it didn't look good for him, Eliana. I think we can agree on that.

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You mentioned Emily that, um, I think you, you were the one I can't forget whether it was you or the Allian. I think it was, you were talking about the disgusting nature of the interview to begin with, right? There was not a good look for George Stephanopoulos from the start. As I mentioned in my intro going after, um, a rape survivor. She was only 16 when she was raped, Nancy Mace.

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And obviously any, any thoughtful person would say that is not the soft spot I want to exploit for purposes of looking tough on my show. I mean, think of the level of douchebaggery. in order to think that'll be a fun way one to really hit her with over and over. And then even in the line of the clip we showed, you have to answer, fuck off. I am here as a courtesy to you.

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I don't have to do anything. You don't like my answers. Don't invite me back. I don't have to do what you tell me. All of it is so... He's such a bully. And all the statements and the approach are evidence of what an arrogant prick bully he is, how he treated her, how he spoke about Trump, how he came after her with his demands to do it the way he insisted.

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And here is a little bit just to remind the audience of that dynamic as he aggressively went after Nancy Mason, sought one.

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Okay. By the way, let's just show them the jury form. Okay. Oh, you heard it over and over been found liable for rape who a jury found liable for rape. Here's the jury verdict form. I can't read that, but I remember that it says, did he commit, um, rape? And you can see, we highlighted here. It says no. And then they say, did he commit sexual assault? And it says yes. But look at that.

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I've refused to get rid of this case thus far. And you must sit like any other defendant, you privileged whatever. you must sit for a deposition and answer questions from Trump's lawyer. Trump, earlier in the case, had said, I'll sit for deposition, but not right now because I'm running for president, so I'm kind of busy.

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I mean, it's clear as day. This is what the jury found and Stephanopoulos would not adhere to it. Emily, so yeah, speak to the dynamic of the overall exchange.

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Exactly right. And then, so that happened in March of 2024, that segment. And by the way, just in case people have forgotten, Bill Clinton was accused multiple times by multiple women of sexual abuse, assault, and rape. And who defended him? George Stephanopoulos at every turn.

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far more. George Stephanopoulos created a whole war room to defend Bill Clinton. So for him to sit there and look at Nancy Mace and say, how could you support a rape defendant, a rapist, someone found liable for rape? How could you support somebody like that? The only thing missing from Nancy Mace's great response was, how could you, George Stephanopoulos,

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You ran a whole war room trying to tear down those. Don't lecture me on what's going to stop rape victims from coming forward.

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But what's going to stop them is people like you and your buddies for Bill Clinton who insulted them, called them trailer trash and unleashed the greatest legal teams in the country against these poor women who had absolutely no means to fight for their dignity and to protect themselves and from other women's against your predator boss. OK, so just stop anyway.

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George Stephanopoulos was not called out that way. He's been called out by people like us, but this is the first time he's really had to own up for his terrible behavior in one of the many ways it was terrible. Two months after he was with Mace in March of 2024, he goes on Colbert, which is on Arrival Network, CBS, and look at this.

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And the judge gave him a delay, but the judge also looked at Trump and said, you must sit too. You got a little time on your hands. I'm aware of your job. So Trump was going to have to sit too. But Trump, we know, is willing. Trump sat when he was getting sued by E. Jean Carroll. Remember, that's that famous...

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Okay. So what's so galling about that, Eliana, is as you well know, when you're involved in litigation, you know, like if I get involved in litigation, I would never... make a comment out about it publicly because it's stupid. It's estupido. You don't do it because it can come back to haunt you. And it was absolutely foolish for him to go. But you know why he did? He knows that for sure.

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The ABC lawyers told him that he had swagger around this. He was like, I know I'm only four foot two, but I'm going to take down the president. F you, big man. I'm George Stephanopoulos. He's got the Napoleon complex and he felt the need to try to act like a tough guy.

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They could have avoided this whole thing if the very next week on his show, he went out and said, I would like to apologize to President Trump. It totally stated the following things. Those things were not true. This is what I should have said. That's it. That shows a potential jury or judge. You didn't have actual malice in your heart. You did your best to correct the record.

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It doesn't necessarily totally exonerate you, but as a practical matter, it does. And instead, you had him out there again, little Napoleon trying to show how tough he was. Because, you know, he obviously had something to prove. Oh, and by the way, so he made their comments in March. In May, he goes on Colbert. In July, ABC News' motion to dismiss this case was denied. Denied.

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They tried to get it dismissed on the papers, and the judge said no. They have stated a claim. This can be seen through to discovery. So that was July. Hello, folks. We're knocking on the door of Christmas and Hanukkah right now. So we're in December. So if once they lost the motion to dismiss, they easily could have settled it then, you know, we know what comes next discovery.

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He's like, you, for example, would never be my type. She said, did you say you can grab women by the, you know what, and they'll let you do it and you're in a star? And he said, well, for thousands of years, that's been true. Unfortunately, or fortunately, that was Trump sitting for a deposition in a civil lawsuit that was against him. So he will do it. But George Stephanopoulos would not.

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We got to turn over our texts, our documents. We are definitely going to have to give George over. They knew that producers on the show are going to have to give an over for deposition that we're going to have motion practice and possibly a trial. So they didn't even let it get... They let it go through. I assume they had discovery where papers were exchanged.

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They would have had to in order to have George's deposition ordered. You can't take somebody's deposition without having seen any of the papers or the texts or anything behind it. And I assume that happened. And now he was about to have to sit. I really think... It's something about George sitting was what made them fold because it's not unprecedented for talent to have to sit.

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You know, we saw it at Fox news that the Murdoch sat at the, in the Fox news dominion case, Rupert Murdoch sat, um, not all the talent sat, but talent have sat in these losses. Jake Tapper, you point out he sat, but George Stephanopoulos sat. would not sit. And there's a reason for that, my friend.

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Meantime, Emily, here is a taste of the media meltdown around this as they're getting the vapors over any sort of white flag being waved at Donald Trump, SOC 24.

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Okay, first of all, if George Stephanopoulos bent the knee, we'd be looking at a Lilliputian. I'm like, where'd George go?

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What happened to George? You have to stand up straighter. Even straighter. Get straighter. We have to go super tall, Emily, now that ABC News is cave. The rest of us have to be even mightier to stand up against the giant.

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No acknowledgement. They did the wrong thing. Why don't they just get a lawyer before they have these discussions to advise them?

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He got the order that he would have to testify under oath and they refused. caved. They collapsed. They gave in and cried uncle. It's sad because I would have loved to have read that deposition transcript. You guys are probably familiar with the absolutely disgusting interview that led to all of this with George Stephanopoulos.

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Yeah, personally done at his request, reportedly. So, yeah, I guess that's not how the jury saw it. They saw... They saw an apple and it was George Stephanopoulos who saw a banana. That's really what happened. He saw the banana. He saw the banana being misused in ways the jury did not. And this jury was not on the same page.

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It's really amazing to watch it all go down and to watch the suffering, Jim Acosta and Brian Stelter, not saying this is a moment to reflect on how to be more careful. And you know what would be a great idea? Bring in a defamation attorney to educate all of us So that we don't make a similar mistake. Instead, it's they bent the knee. The rest of us have to stand stronger.

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And you know what I think should happen now, especially given that and sort of this reaction across the left wing media, I think Trump should start writing letters to the people at MSNBC. who called him a rapist over and over and over. I mean, now he's got a settlement for $15 million. It's going to his presidential library. And they had to pay attorney's fees, a million bucks.

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And they had to issue an apology and a statement on their reporting, admitting that it was false. If I were Trump, I'd be having my lawyer do a LexisNexis search for all the people who said in a factual way. I mean, you could say, I believe he's a rapist or it's obvious to me he raped her. Right. That's all fine. That's opinion. But you cannot say, as Stephanopoulos did, he is a rapist.

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He raped E. Jean Carroll. That's defamatory. So if I were Trump, I would spread the pain around.

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No, it's not. Let me tell you something. This is why we did a long episode that we released over the weekend about how the Duke lacrosse case, you know, the fake rape case unfolded and collapsed and how it was really the beginning of what we now call wokeness in the media, the way they covered these stories, how they choose a side based on skin color, potentially class, privilege, and gender.

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We did a big episode on this because he had on Congresswoman Nancy Mace back in the spring. And remember, he was disgusted that this rape victim could back It was someone who he kept claiming had been found liable for rape. That was the defamatory statement over and over and over. And we pointed out that that was false.

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And how they never learned. Even though that case blew up in their faces, they just never learned. They doubled and tripled down and so on. It's a good episode. You guys should listen to it. I actually got some sweet notes about it from the players' families. So... We did that.

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And we were pointing out that the media that that's the reason that this alternative ecosystem was born, you know, the digital lane. And I said on the show, necessity is the mother of all invention. You know, people just they realized over time and Trump really helped how dishonest the media was and is and just demanded someplace else to go.

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and then bit by bit, it started populating, and they fled. They fled the mainstream, so-called mainstream, in incredible numbers. Like, the GMA is cratering in the ratings. We've talked about MSNBC now regularly getting... I mean, slashies in the demo, which is below 50,000, slashies is true shame, shame, shame.

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You would never want to look the boss in the face if you've gotten slashies under 50,000 in the 25 to 54-year-old. That's what sets your advertising rates. And the collapse in the overall is what goes to how much your cable subscribers are going to renew your deal for. How much are they going to pay to have MSNBC or CNN on their lineup? Less this go round than they did the last, that's for sure.

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Because the power of these networks is diminishing quickly. So they're going to lose money in advertising and they're going to lose money in their subscription fees that they get. And then you look at what's happening in our lane. And my executive producer, Steve Krakar, said this to me just recently because we keep an eye on our numbers.

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It made news back in July when our YouTube feed beat the YouTube feed of NBC News, CBS News, the BBC, Sky News, and many others, okay? It made news, made national news. November, which was a presidential election, as you know, not just for Megyn Kelly, but for all those same organizations. As far as I know, CNN and all these others made a big deal out of the presidential election, too.

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In November alone, We just on our YouTube, this does not count Sirius XM audience. This does not count a podcast, our podcast audience. It does not count social media audience, just YouTube. In one month, we had 194 million and a half, 194 million views. Okay. Almost 200 million people were watching this show in November. Think about it. How did the others do?

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NBC News, we crushed them by 50 million. CNN, they beat us by, we had two thirds of their audience when we last looked at it in July. We had two thirds of what they were getting on YouTube. CNN, we killed them this time. They lost to us too. They got 155. We beat them by 40 million. I could go on. I mean, all the mainstream, you know, uh, nets, they lost to us. That's all of them.

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All there's that's, that's Jake Tapper. That's Anderson Cooper. That's the 9 PM lady who never smiles. That's the morning show. That's all of them. All of them together. lost to just this show. Yay. Good for us. I'm happy to have a victory lab. I won't lie, but it's really not about that. The point I'm raising is they're collapsing.

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And my God, I shudder to think what's going to happen this month when all their audiences fled. That was when their audience's interest was at its peak. Our numbers are still very strong. So are Fox's. Anyway, the point is, how can this model continue, Emily? How can they How can these anchors continue to be paid these mega millions dollar sums?

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And I believe we even suggested that Trump should sue him, but that he, that that was completely false. inaccurate, wrong, and it was liable. And we focused on the fact that he thought it would be super fun and really, like, make him look good to go after a rape survivor, Nancy Mace, and really twist her facts and her words in her face. Like... If you were raped, how could you support a rapist?

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Rachel Maddow took a pay cut for her one hour a week from 30 million to 25 million a year. But there is just no way that this business model can be sustained for much longer.

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Yeah, they don't get it. We played that soundbite last week of Leslie Stahl talking to Peggy Noonan like, I don't know why this is happening. Why? Why is the legacy media collapsing? Hello, Leslie, you should come on. I will explain it to you. I'd be happy to. There's a lot of examples at CBS News.

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Anyway, um, God bless everyone. And I hope it's going better for you than it is for me.

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And by the way, you know, ABC News, this is just the latest, you know, that we're talking about, like an extreme... There was a day not long ago where that hot mess that they air in the mornings called The View had to issue not one, not two, not three, but four corrections, legal corrections, four legal notes. We only have three of them on camera, but look at this. Sorry, everyone.

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Not to mention what they did at that debate, where once again... They tried to fact check only one side. And then when their fact checks got back checked, they cowered. They cowered in fear. I mean, this is a pattern with them. They're lucky it was only 15 million. We're not done with the media. Trump has just announced he's suing another outlet. We'll talk about who it is.

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You claim you're a rape victim. How could a rape victim support a rape? Great. Great positioning. You're idiots. Stephanopoulos is an idiot and so are his producers. Because let me tell you, in all my years at Fox, never mind my shorts did in NBC, the producers have a couple of main jobs. One is to arm the anchor with facts. Fail. Fail. Okay, fail there. And two is to protect the anchor.

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And we've got to get to what happened with Clarissa Ward, not to mention the drones. Don't go away. Looking for the perfect gift or maybe just a treat for yourself or something that people are not expecting, like a hostess gift or something, you know, for your spouse that they would never predict. Think about this. Firecracker Farm hot salt. That's fun. Who's expecting that?

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Here's Steve Schmidt from the discredited, vile Lincoln Project on the Stephanopoulos ABC News settlement. Quote, the pace of capitulation will increase. And along with it, a deep freeze will settle over most of America's newsrooms. End quote. Well, I've got news for you, Steve Schmidt.

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If Trump winning against ABC News or getting them to settle in that case causes a deep freeze in any given newsroom, then they're doing the news wrong. Because those of us who cover him and the other side fairly have no fear whatsoever. I mean... All you can do is your best to remain factual and to label opinion as such. No one's perfect. ABC News isn't expected to be perfect.

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But when they screw up or any other newsroom screws up, you're expected to own it. And the law acknowledges that. Welcome back to The Megyn Kelly Show. Today's show is brought to you by Grand Canyon University. GCU believes the American dream starts with purpose and can help you fulfill your sacred calling. Find your purpose. Visit gcu.edu.

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And if you go to GCU, I bet you learn a little bit about the First Amendment, or at least have the opportunity to, and should understand that while it's vast and very protective of speech, It is not complete. There are exceptions to your abilities to say certain things. And you may not defame someone. And the standard for defamation is very, very high.

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You will not be found liable unless you breach it. ABC News was not found liable. They settled this case. Because they knew, they knew either what they did was wrong, what they said on paper or when they put George under oath was going to be extremely embarrassing, or that the risk was simply too great in proceeding to trial. Back with me now, Emily Jashinsky, D.C.

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correspondent for UnHerd and Eliana Johnson, editor-in-chief of the Washington Free Press. Beacon. Okay, here's more. Brian Stelter. ABC News settled Donald Trump's defamation suit against the network and George Stephanopoulos because this problem needed to go away, an ABC executive remarked, on condition of anonymity. Ooh, big scoop. Okay.

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V goes on, but, but the speculation about why ABC agreed to settle and why now and why at such expense is not going away. This is not a scoop. This is nothing because it needed to go. Hello.

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You protect the anchor. And so if the anchor is out there saying something colossally stupid, usually if you have a great producer, they'll get in your ear to say, no, it's this. No, it's that. Be careful. That happens with me all the time on this show.

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The light bulb went off. Here is something that just happened. Trump is down at Mar-a-Lago as you know, and, um, Just announced another lawsuit that's coming, not against a media figure, but against Iowa pollster Ann Seltzer. Listen to this.

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Okay, just correcting there. It looks like they're going to file it against the Des Moines Register, the paper for which Ann Seltzer works, and not necessarily her personally, but obviously it's all based on her. By the way, just a thing for the viewers. You heard Trump there say, and in my opinion, it's fraud. In my opinion, it was fraud. Why does he say that? Why does he add that phrase?

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Because he understands what the legal limits are. If he says they committed fraud... And they didn't. They could sue him. That's what he's worried. So he couches it as opinion, which is protected by the First Amendment. And if George Stephanopoulos had said, in my opinion, he raped her, he would have been protected, too. He can say that.

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He cannot go out there and say a jury found him civilly liable for rape because that's a factual statement. And his statement was not factual. So you heard him there outlining his cases there. He just settled the one with ABC. He's got one against now coming, I guess, against the Des Moines register about that poll that he says was fraudulent. And then you heard him reference there.

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He's also suing 60 million or 60 minutes for 10 billion. Is for their editing of the Kamala Harris interview. And there is another lawsuit against the Pulitzer Prize Committee for its behavior around the honor it gave the New York Times for its coverage of the Russia hoax. And while that third one sounded the most absurd to me, it's just survived motion practice.

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A judge refused to throw it out on the papers. And it's as crazy as it sounds, like David Axelrod just sent out a tweet describing it as he's suing the Pulitzer Committee for honoring the Times coverage of Russian election interference. That's not exactly right. He's actually suing the Pulitzer Committee for its own statements about its decision to honor the Times.

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My producers, the ones who run heard on various segments that I'm doing, if they realize I've said something inaccurate or that I'm searching for a factor constantly in my ears is why I wear these headphones to say it's this or it's that this whole thing that you're watching and listening to is a team effort.

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It was asked to do a review by Trump, who was complaining, saying, why are you honoring them? Everything they reported turned out to be fake. And they did a review and they came back and said, and I'm reading here, the separate reviews, we conducted reviews, the separate reviews converged in their conclusions.

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colon, that no passages or headlines, contentions, or assertions in any of the winning submissions were discredited by facts that emerged subsequent to the conferral of the prizes. And Trump's contention is that's absolutely wrong. There were many, many facts that emerged to show the New York Times had it dead wrong on the Russia hoax. And you saying that was a further defamation.

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You, the prize committee, defamed me. That's fair game. That's not just, hey, you shouldn't have given the honor to them. That would not be a good lawsuit. So there's the Pulitzer Prize one. The, the lawsuit against 60 minutes, I will say right here is laughable and should go away. It is absurd.

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They are dishonest and should be shamed, but it's not illegal to make an edit that helps one candidate versus another. I, that one's going nowhere. In my opinion, don't know about the judge in the case. Maybe it's a Trump friendly guy that could get him passed around or two, but this, that that's not going anywhere. In any event,

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The way the media is going to take this, Eliana, is it's an all out assault. It's retribution. And what I see is a litigious guy who is continuing in his litigious nature and doing what he's always done. Sue people who say nasty things about him.

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And 10 times that, 100 times that on ABC broadcast news and a Sunday show like the one George Stephanopoulos sits for. Partisan hack. He's been there a long time. It doesn't make him any more respectable. He's a partisan hack. He started off as a partisan hack and he remains one. He's just too ball-less to own his partisan nature.

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I believe, I'm trying to look this up here, I believe the lawsuit against CBS News, which is based on an allegation that they somehow committed consumer fraud by submitting a dishonestly edited interview with Kamala Harris, is in a Texas state court, which would be very helpful to Trump. And I believe, if I'm not confusing my lawsuits, that it's in front of a Trump-appointed judge.

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I'll go back and look at that, but I'm pretty sure... Yeah, it's in Texas and it's in front of a Trump judge. So that's probably what they're banking on. And CBS News is saying this case should be bounced to New York, where we are based and where we committed this alleged offense and where we can get a more left wing judge that maybe Trump did not appoint. So, yeah, no.

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I mean, by the way, plaintiffs forum shop all the time where they try to file the lawsuit in the jurisdiction most favorable to them. We'll see how all these play out. Look, all these organizations have more money than God.

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They can easily they have lawyers on staff, general counsels and so on, and they can use some of their profits that they've earned in defaming and maligning Trump unfairly for all these years to hire outside counsel to handle these things. Right. Like these are two sophisticated parties suing one another. Right. Like Trump is a sophisticated party. CBS News is a sophisticated party.

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And so is ABC News. And so is the Pulitzer Prize Committee. They can they can handle this litigation. He's trying to send a message. And by the way, I mean, like, it'd be nice if you could get some of the people who called you Hitler. But the problem is that's opinion. No one said, as a matter of fact, he's Hitler. So that one, you know, you can get away with.

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Yeah, like he's Hitler incarnate. He's actual Hitler. I think that's actually going to be really interesting. And I actually don't think this is going to cow the news rooms from negative coverage of Trump. It's their bread and butter. It's their oxygen. They won't know how to speak. If it's not for that. And some people are like, well, they've already been calmer. They've already been calmer.

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You know, you know why they've been calmer? Because Trump's not doing anything. There's very little to talk about right now. You just wait. You just wait until Trump gets back in office. None of these news organizations is going to be saying, well, he won the popular vote. Well, he has a mandate.

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Well, you know, we're going to we're going to back off because we want to get Republican viewers watching. That's not going to happen. They're going to go back to their normal Trump derangement syndrome selves and do what they normally do. And it's not like they defame him every day. What Stephanopoulos did there was really egregious.

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And if you don't go to that level on your defamation, he probably will ignore you. But if you do what he did, you can and should defame. be sued. That one is totally fair. So I don't, I don't predict a chilling effect. I think they love bashing him too much. Oh, great. Is this, let me just ask my team a question. Is this, is this on the record that is this readable out loud? Yes. Okay. Sorry.

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He wants us to believe that he's straight and narrow now, notwithstanding all those years helping Bill Clinton. And the irony of him going after a rape supporter in that way, how could you support a rape supporter? My God, the nerve to support a rape committer. After his years running the war room, tearing down Bill Clinton's sexual assault accusers, I mean, it's just rich.

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So we, as I said at the top of the show, reached out to Trump's lawyer in connection with the settlement with ABC News and the $15 million. And okay, just making sure, hold on. Sorry, forgive me because we don't normally let this play out live on the air, but I'm just getting it. Making sure this is on the record, not just on background before I read anything. Okay. We've, we've got to find out.

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We've got to find out. Forgive me. We don't want to commit similar sins to our, the colleagues we've been ripping on, but to the extent we can read it, we will, uh, in just a minute. Okay. Here's what we should do. We're going to put a pin in that. We'll get back to it, but let's move on to Clarissa Ward because I don't know if you gals saw the reporting. Did you see it, Emily? You're smiling.

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Okay. It was indelible. So for the audience members who didn't hear us talk about this with Hugh on Friday, and you should, because we went back and we really deconstructed that moment. Clarissa Ward of CNN walked into what was supposed to be a prison in Syria with some handler who was associated with the new Al Qaeda movement. adjacent group that's just taken over Syria.

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And her handler walked into the prison with her. And one of Bashar al-Assad's prisoners was still in prison. She said everything was open. All the cells were open and the people had like left, but there was one that was locked. And so she said, we had the guy shoot off the lock on this one cell. They made us turn off our cameras and

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the cameras go off and then they open the cell after this guy has now shot off the lock and they walk into the cell, which looks pristine, pristine, except for one blanket neatly laid out. You don't see anything. I don't know what's off camera to be fair, but I didn't see a bucket of human waste or human waste or anything. There's certainly no trash, no clothes, no, no debris anywhere.

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Looks clean. Um, Underneath the blanket emerges a man after several like, hello, hello, hello, hello. He's lying there. Then finally he emerges like a Phoenix. Hello. And Clarissa Ward represents that this is like, oh my God, it's a prisoner. Look, we found somebody. And then it gets very dramatic and she holds him. You're okay. You're okay. You're okay. You're okay.

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Meanwhile, she's not speaking Arabic, which she says she does speak. She's speaking English to the guy. Okay. And she says that this is one of Assad's prisoners. Then we see them outside. And she's like rubbing his back. There he is. And look how clean his outfit is. He doesn't have a scuff on him. He doesn't have dirt on him. His fingernails are clean. His hand is shaking, supposedly.

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He says he's been in jail for three or four months and he's been in captivity without food or water for four days. Looks fine. Doesn't squint when he first sees the sun. We don't know. Well... Some online sleuths noticed a lot of these things.

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And by the way, we also reported that when Clarissa gave her report to Jake Tapper after the fact, she said she offered him her cell phone so he could call his family. And his response was like, no. She said he was too in shock to call his family. I think we're probably wondering where the guy was for four months. Probably wondering dead or alive, but like... didn't take the offer.

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So now the whole thing has cost him his reputation and his company $15 million. Okay, we're going to get into all of this. There's more on the media front, not only with him, but also here. Do you remember the story we brought to you on Friday with Hugh Hewitt in which we questioned CNN's Clarissa Ward's report about allegedly stumbling into this dramatic rescue of a Syrian war prisoner? Yes.

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All this stuff is suspicious and made it look very much like Clarissa and her brethren at CNN were used to dump out a little propaganda to the rest of us, which is a sin, especially in this line of reporting. It's the number one risk.

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You know, after getting shot, it's the number one thing you worry about as a foreign correspondent, that some group is going to use you in a clever way where you become their mouthpiece unwillingly. And now the There was a reporter who has been in captivity twice in Syria who was like, this stinks to high heaven. Syrian prisons are as dirty and messed up and covered with debris as you can get.

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And this doesn't smell or look right. And now we find out that they've done more investigating the sleuths. And the name that Clarissa Ward and CNN attributed to this guy was not correct. It did not prove to be true. The sleuths have been looking into this. It is not the man she said it was. And now CNN has been forced to conduct an investigation.

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You can email me Megan at megankelly.com. And, um, before the week is through, I'll offer you some of the ideas I have come up with. Maybe we can share and contrast. In any event, today we start with this delicious news. I mean, you never see, you never see these media organizations held to account for their vile lies they tell about Donald Trump. I mean, it's rare to see it happen at all.

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They've launched an investigation to see what happened here. Eliana, I feel like we kind of know what happened.

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Wow. So what was he doing in the cell? Like if that's true, I can see him wanting to pretend he was a prisoner of Assad's as opposed to an alleged torturer who was working on behalf of Assad. But he would not have been locked up by Assad in a jail for four months. You know, one presumes if this is all if this is the nature of the relationship.

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So we even if that's true, Emily, we don't know why he was in this cell with a lock on it and what the game was.

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Mm hmm. Eliana, the statement, this is per the rap, is CNN to the rap. We have subsequently been investigating his background and are aware that he may have given a false identity. Then they say no one other than the CNN team. Thank you. We reported the scene as it unfolded, including what the prisoner told us with clear attribution.

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He's there under the blanket and there's no bucket for waste that we can see. And he's as clean as I am sitting on this set, even though he says he's been behind bars for three months and five or four days without food or water. And he's not blinded when he sees the sun and all sorts of weird things. Well, there's an update.

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We have subsequently been investigating his background and are aware that he may have given a false identity. We are continuing our reporting into this and the wider story. On Sunday, it was verify... I think it's short for Syria, a website that describes itself as an independent and unbiased platform specializing in fact-checking in Syria that cast doubt on the man's claim.

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The website's writer, Abdul Salam al-Hamwi, wrote that the man, who identified himself as Abdel Garbal from Homs, claimed he had been in prison for three months and then he got into some of the facts that suggest that's not how that looked at all. at all. Then they searched for records for a man named Adele Garble, could not find any.

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Instead, they claim he's actually this man named Salama Mohamed Salama, who's also known as Abu Hamza, a first lieutenant in the Syrian Air Force intelligence who is well known for his behavior. And it goes on to some of the details that you already offered. Here's the thing. You're kind of in the business of checking those things out. If you're CNN and you're Clarissa Ward,

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It's really not like that big a sacrifice to take an extra day. No one's like going to beat you to that story to kick the tires and figure out whether this guy really is who he says he is. And CNN also has has reporters and producers all around the world, I'm sure, including in Syria. So do you think this is a case of just negligence downsizing?

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If, if in fact they, well, they've already been embarrassed because they reported the wrong name from, from their own admission, negligence downsizing, or just too good a story, Emily, like it's just too good. She, they, they, their star reporter looks like the next Christiane Amanpour. Let's do this thing.

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Joining me now today for the full show, the EJs, Emily Jashinsky, DC correspondent for Unheard and host of Undercurrents, and Eliana Johnson, editor-in-chief of the Washington Free Beacon and co-host of the podcast Ink Stained Wretches. For those of us who have been holding our breath for the past several months, we can finally exhale in the wake of this presidential election, right?

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And like, you know, it could be an even bigger story. Like, oh, my God, we found an alleged torturer. Like, has he been hiding? What did he have a fallout with his side? Why is he in this prison? Was he really in this prison? Was he placing the diddy fool the rebels into doing like if I were CNN, I'd be like, this is like, let's get to the bottom of it before you hit air.

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Let's get to the bottom of what really happened there. It's even more interesting if you go to air with, here's what happened as it unfolded. Then we found out he was lying to us. This is who we found out he is.

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Like, that's a great story, but it doesn't really support the narrative that Clarissa, Mother Teresa, went in there and rescued the poor, sad little man who hadn't eaten and rubbed his back. I'm telling you, it's like, is this the same network that let Chris Cuomo come out of that basement and pretend that he hadn't been out, right? We all knew he'd been out. We've seen the reports.

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He was out fighting with his neighbors during COVID. But then they let him do his dramatic, like, Mary Ingalls. Pa, I can see. I can see. Actually, it was I can't see. Anyway, okay, back to the Trump settlement with ABC News. We have now made sure we can read what I was about to read. Okay, so our producer spoke with Trump's attorney, Alejandro Brito, and here is what he said.

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Our question was, why did ABC decide to settle? The long and short of it is the nature of the claims that were brought and the fact that they were verifiable from a standpoint as factually untrue from George Stephanopoulos. Trump's legal team had separate video clips of George Stephanopoulos on ABC that showed Stephanopoulos knew that Trump had not been found liable for rape.

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This was not a situation where there was simply a misunderstanding of Um, George Stephanopoulos interviewed E. Jean Carroll after the trial on his show. And we had video of his questions to Carol. And when he asked her how she felt after Stephanopoulos said Trump was not liable for rape, juxtapose that with his questioning of Mace. That's very interesting. It's a good point.

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Was there something, this is us, in discovery that scared ABC into settling? Answer, the possibility of something coming out in discovery may have had led to the settlement. Trump legal team had scheduled to take the deposition of ABC and ABC rep and George Stephanopoulos. The lawyer suspects ABC did not want it to happen.

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Quote, it wasn't something ABC learned that caused them to settle, but rather something Trump's team may learn, he said. End quote. Our question, had they already exchanged documents? To my point of normally you exchange texts and papers before you sit for the deposition. He said that there had been minimal document exchange and discovery.

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Trump team was waiting on ABC and Stephanopoulos to respond to discovery demands. He said at the time of the settlement, ABC had only, quote, produced one piece of paper. End quote. Very interesting. And not provided any other documentation. He believes fear of what Trump could learn about ABC and Stephanopoulos and document exchange may have played a role in the settlement.

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That's very interesting. So they had handed over one piece of paper. They had not turned over the texts or the instant messages or the oh shit exchanges when they got the lawsuit or any of that stuff. And they were about to have to. they panicked, understandably. And now we'll never know what was in those documents, but spare us the, oh, poor news organizations.

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How will they ever cover the news now, Eliana, right? It's like, I stand by everything I've written down with my team. Every word I've said on this show, no one's perfect, but I could defend all of it in court. Something stinks at ABC News.

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Yeah. No trial in that one, though. Um, okay. Let's shift gears for a moment because I want to spend a minute on, um, the WNBA and Caitlin Clark. You guys saw that speaking of bend the knee, she did not look like a Lilliputian when she did it. She's tall, a tall lady. And she decided to go woke. And when Time Magazine made her athlete of the year, she accepted.

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She was fine going into the spotlight and saying, yeah, thank you. I love to be on your cover and my sexy outfit. Let's do this thing. interview me in my sexy plunging dress. I do like the spotlight. It feels good to be in front of the camera. Okay, fine. I have no problem with that. However, I do when you get out there and you say, but I feel really bad about it.

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I'm very sad I'm here because I'm so white. I'm Time Magazine so white. And I really wish you were paying attention to the black players. That's my true wish. If you could just stop looking at me under the Klieg lights and look over there at the black players. That's what I really want from you, Time Magazine.

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And then she went on to talk about how it's my truth and her white privilege and all that. So, okay. So did the bending of the knee... I mean, I have a soundbite that I want to play for you, and it involves the owner, I believe, of the Mystics, which is, yeah, co-owner Sheila Johnson. She owns a different team, the Mystics, within the WNBA.

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And I really think... I was very critical of Caitlin Clark for doing this. Maybe... Maybe what she said really will win over the WNBA that's been bullying her mercilessly because she's white and earning. Maybe I was just too dense to see it. And Caitlyn is very clever. And actually, the league is really going to get behind her now and say, you know what? She is the best.

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Right. Hello. It's like 2020 called and they want their commentary back. Eliana, Caitlin Clark is 22 and hasn't yet learned the lesson that bending the knee to the woke mob does not produce better results in one's life. It doesn't. Nothing good will come from it.

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You will alienate your fan base that does not want to see you buy into their bullshit narratives about race or white privilege in the WNBA. And you will gain absolutely no grace or quarter from your critics who are not persuadable.

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It's a good point. It's a good point. No, I mean, they're obviously saying that the only reason people want to watch Caitlin is that she's white. They're excited because she's white. And I think the record seems pretty clear. They're excited to watch Caitlin because she's great.

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I'm sorry, but if she really just wants the spotlight to be on the deserving black players who surround her and on whose backs this league was built, then you shouldn't have taken the honor. Then you should have said, make the WNBA the team of the year, the league of the year. What I don't need right now is an additional singled out honor. That's what she should have done.

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You can't have it both ways. She wants the attention. She wants to be in the spotlight. And then she wants to just throw a bone to the girls who were rejected. And so it doesn't come as any surprise to me that they don't want her discarded bones and that this did nothing to appease them and actually probably infuriated all of us. We'll see. Okay.

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Uh, more with Emily and Eliana right after this quick break. Don't go away. I'm Megyn Kelly, host of The Megyn Kelly Show on Sirius XM. It's your home for open, honest, and provocative conversations with the most interesting and important political, legal, and cultural figures today.

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So, ladies, have you seen a drone yet? Not yet. No, nothing? I have to tell you. Not seen them in Northern Virginia. I got some friends in Connecticut who have seen something. Like people are checking their ring cameras, their footage, and seeing mysterious items. They're all over New Jersey now. The sightings have been New Jersey, New York, Connecticut, Pennsylvania, Massachusetts, and Virginia.

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But John Kirby, Pentagon spokesperson, maintains there's nothing to see here. And if there is, we don't know what it is, but there's nothing to worry about. He goes on with Martha McCallum and this happens.

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Are you enjoying the ABC meltdown and collapse as much as the surrender in this case as much as I am?

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bullshit. Those are lies. You can tell those are lies. One after the other, we're being misled that I think we're pretty clear on. And, you know, first it was, you're not seeing what you're, what you think you're saying that they're not out there. People are making it up. Then it was, Oh, they're fixed wing air aircraft.

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And then, you know, the, the Maryland governor came out and said, hello, we saw drones and, you know, person after person, credible, credible, credible witness after it came out and said, these are drones. Stop it. Just stop it right now. And now it's okay, they're there, but we don't know what they are. But they said, oh, there's nothing to worry about.

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And then the New Jersey lawmakers came out and said, no, you can't say that. We don't know what they are. How can you tell us we don't know whether we have cause to worry? And then you saw him dancing there. And now here's a man named John Ferguson. He's CEO, he says, of a drone manufacturing company in Kansas. He went viral over the weekend.

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We have not independently confirmed John Ferguson, but this guy's everywhere right now with his theory.

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Okay, I did not know that a drone could sniff. That is news to me. Okay. I've heard a few different theories along this line. Like they're out there running a PSYOP, like seeing how the public would react if and when they really are needed to respond to, for example, a dirty bomb or the detection of one that they actually are trying to detect, whether something has been released or

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And that's why they don't want to tell us because it would cause a panic, which would be incredibly criminally negligent, right? To allow people to be whatever. These are all just theories that are being bandied about. We have absolutely no idea. That's the truth, Eliana.

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As Judge Judy always says, it didn't make sense. And if it doesn't make sense, it isn't true. It doesn't make sense, Emily, that we can't shoot down one of these reportedly hundreds of drones to see what the hell it is. Like she says, some of them are over the water. We absolutely could shoot one down.

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You're going to tell me the military wouldn't shoot down something that could possibly be a threat to national security or the lives of Americans when we don't know what the hell could be for and released? Bullshit. No one believes that. that. What I believe is the government knows full well what they are, and it has its reasons for not telling us.

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We just don't know what they are yet, but we should find out. Here's Trump on what should happen here.

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He sounds genuinely like he might not know, even though he's getting security briefings already, Emily.

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I just feel like they must know. They must know because it's been going on for so long. They must be complicit. There's no way... How would it be going on this long if they didn't know what it was and hadn't ascertained that they want it or that it's not going to hurt anybody? That doesn't seem possible to me. The question is, why won't they tell us? That's my question.

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Ladies, that's for another day. Great to see you both. Thank you. Thanks, Megan. Thanks, Megan. We're back tomorrow with Mark Halperin and crew. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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You know, the thing that got them in trouble, Eliana, was he went out there, repeatedly said that a jury had found him liable for rape, which is not what happened. A jury found Trump liable for sexual abuse. And they said no on the rape charge. Then the judge wrote up his, like, interpretation of what happened. Obviously, this judge was not a Trump fan.

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And the judge, Lewis Kaplan, wrote as follows after the fact when Trump was seeking a new trial. The judge wrote the finding that Miss Carroll failed to prove that she was raped within the meaning of New York penal law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump raped her. As many people commonly understand the word rape.

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Okay, nobody even understands what that means other than this judge wanted someone to see the word rape and Trump's name in a headline. But the fact remains the jury's verdict is the jury's verdict and no judge can change it with words after the fact or their post verdict interpretation. The judge can throw it out.

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The judge can lower the charge potentially by throwing a charge out, but he can't increase the charge. from sexual abuse to rape. It's not a possibility, neither this judge nor any other. And the bottom line is Trump was not found liable for rape by this jury. And despite that fact, George Stephanopoulos went out on the air in that interview and sounded like this sought to.

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And trust me, as a media figure, I'm not clamoring to see media figures get sued for defamation for mild sins or even moderate sins. But this was just so egregious. And they did it over and over and over again at ABC News. They didn't care. They clearly enjoyed saying what George Stephanopoulos said. It made them feel good about themselves. This is George Stephanopoulos's

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And that's why he's now having to pay $15 million, or his news organization is, Eliana. So what do you make of it?

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But, you know, what what they also skipped was the motion for summary judgment phase, because that's filed after you get depositions from each side. What normally would happen is they take Stephanopoulos' deposition, they take Trump's deposition and whoever else's that they wanted.

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And then you get all your deposition transcripts ready and you file as the defendant a motion for summary judgment, meaning give me a win here, judge. and dismiss this defamation claim against ABC without a trial. Because here, you can see right here that everyone admits the judge said this. But the problem is that they didn't do that.

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So they wanted to get out of this before they even had that serious shot at getting it dismissed altogether by the judge. They, which tells me They didn't want him sitting for deposition. That's why they paid the $15 million. That, plus they were probably, yes, a bit on bended knee because they're afraid of Trump.

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Not so much in his capacity as a plaintiff, but in his capacity as the president-elect. And they need him. ABC News needs to have a relationship with him. This is no way to do it, to continue to lie about him, to maintain that your lies were justified.

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You were allowed to tell them, notwithstanding the fact that it is indisputable he was not found liable by a jury for rape, as Stephanopoulos said over and over, Emily.

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I'll just leave the dirty teen joke there, that that's how he feels about saying nasty things about Trump. And finally, it came back to bite him. I would love to see what's in his text messages to his producers because I guarantee it just cost ABC News $15 million. That's almost certainly what happened. So you may have heard this over the weekend. Trump sued ABC News and ABC News caved.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to the Megyn Kelly Show and happy Monday and happy birthday, Yardley. My daughter turns 14 today.

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It was like quiet, but also alive. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I don't think you can describe it because like, you know what I'm saying? Like quiet, but then also really like alive. And then the takeaway, we're all in this together.

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We don't mean please put Gayle King in yet another opportunity for her to try to act like a star while she's next to Oprah, who also was there, of course. She didn't get to go up. but she stood there on the sidelines. I don't feel empowered. This is like another, it's female White House press corps day at the White House. Remember I told you this during Obama?

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Oh, God. Very little will when you're married to Jeff Bezos and you could literally afford to buy it and sell everyone in America's family. But I suppose we're supposed to celebrate her. That's what we're supposed to do. We're supposed to celebrate her because accomplishment.

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She bagged the billionaire after banging the billionaire after allegedly cheating, at least according to what I read in the National Enquirer. But there was a whole lawsuit about it where she accused, they said maybe her brother had sold pictures of text messages between the two of them. Then he claimed he'd been falsely attacked by... Can't remember who he blamed it on, a foreign government.

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Anyway, it was a big scandal. Enough of them. Now, in other news about deplorable people, some absolute lunatic firebombed the Pennsylvania governor's mansion where Josh Shapiro and his wife and their children were sleeping. This guy goes in there at two in the morning. I have to say it wasn't exactly like a Jack Bauer entry. Seems like no one really tried to stop him.

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I don't know what the story is on the governor's security, but I'm underwhelmed that he managed to break the window, get into the governor's mansion and start dropping Molotov cocktails. And then apparently it took them a while to actually track him down. That's a separate matter. Look at the devastation inside the mansion.

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You could hear Governor Shapiro came out after the fact and you could tell he was somewhat rattled. Here he is, SOT 21.

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Wow. I feel for him. He's got four young kids. I mean, they came pretty close to being killed this evening. And it was by some 38-year-old guy, reportedly Cody Balmer is his name. He's now charged with attempted murder, terrorism, aggravated arson. Look at this. This is reminding me of like the Notre Dame Cathedral shots we saw after it burned. Aggravated arson.

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He may also face federal charges still. This man, Balmer, is a father of at least five, four sons and a daughter, according to a 2020 Facebook post. Unconfirmed information on Balmer. Someone found an old Facebook post from him, purportedly from him. These things come out in the days after, and then they sometimes turn out not to be true as an asterisk here.

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But his Facebook post, we believe, says he's a registered socialist. Voting record shows nonpartisan, unaffiliated voter. Social media posts show he supported Black Lives Matter, universal healthcare as a right, criticized MAGA supporters, Christians, and the Second Amendment. Was also anti-Biden. Had a post that read, knowing is half the battle, the other half is extreme violence.

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They were like, it's female empowerment day or whatever. And they invited a bunch of women, including yours truly and some people from Fox to go over there and interview the president. And I was like, no, it's a no. I'll go over when I'm getting asked there because I'm worthy as a journalist, period. Not journalist with a vagina.

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Shared posts supporting mask mandates during COVID, rants slamming toxic femininity, complained about gas prices, supported Kanye West's presidential run. et cetera. I mean, it sounds like this guy started deteriorating and then The New York Post reports that his Harrisburg, Pennsylvania property was subject to a foreclosure, and he was facing that.

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The sale was about to go ahead and had obvious, serious resentments for Governor Josh Shapiro, a Democrat, and his wife, Lori, and their four children, two dogs, and another family who lived there. No injuries. I should have mentioned that up higher. One last thing. He acted quickly. He got into the home. He was there for less than a minute.

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And the break in and setting of the fire happened while the troopers were looking for him. The officials believe he did have a plan, noting how quickly he was in and out of the residence and calling him methodical in his approach. He exited the property the same way he entered it over the fence. So what do we make of this? Is this a political story? Is this a random nutcase story?

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Yeah. The, um, uh, the free beacons, Peter Hassan tweeted out, this is exactly why it's so dangerous to lionize Luigi Mangione. It's if it's okay to hit anybody in power, you consider evil than any politician is fair game. I mean, it's an interesting point now because it's not every day you see a governor's mansion firebombed, Matt.

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This is a, this is a striking development in the land of political attacks. And I use that term generically for a reason. Um, I don't know whether this guy's in that case. He sounds extreme in his political rhetoric, but I, I'm not seeing, you know, stuff about like being abducted by space aliens in his social media that we've unearthed so far.

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OK, I don't really want to be celebrated for that at all by anyone who doesn't know me. And I just feel uncomfortable about this. Like why? If they had been six astronauts going up there, then yes. OK, what did they do? The one gal is engaged to a billionaire and these are a bunch of celebrities she wanted to befriend. OK, OK.

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He sounds like somebody was pissed off about his foreclosure. And I can't help watching this thinking we'd be hearing very different messaging from the Democrat side if this had been Ron DeSantis. I really think we would. There'd be an attempt to understand, well, how Ron DeSantis brought this on himself.

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It's the new version of intellectualizing, looting and rioting. as one of the available options to you when you have some sort of societal upset. You mentioned Walter Taylor Lorenz for a reason, former New York Times, former Washington Post columnist who is now trying to make it in the independent lane. And she sat down with... CNN's Donnie, is it Donnie O'Sullivan?

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I actually don't know this guy, who's got some show about misinformation and had the most remarkable exchange regarding Luigi Mangione, the man who stands accused of gunning down in cold blood the CEO of UnitedHealthcare a couple of months ago. Here it is.

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Of course, Lauren Shands has, whatever her name, had to show off her tits. Okay, it's a little early in the hour to be dropping the T word. Her breasts in her little fake astronaut outfit, because what's a day if we don't get to see the girls on Lauren Sanchez? It's not as offensive as showing them at the presidential inauguration, but I think it's a little off message.

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That is repulsive. The way she describes Luigi Mangione as if and not in a mocking way, not like these these lunatics are going to say the following things about him. She clearly shares in it. She obviously tweeted out something sympathetic about him right after he did it. This is right in her wheelhouse because she claims she's got every ailment known to man and womankind.

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I don't from the pull pulling out the hair to the name. I don't. She's got a lot of issues. So she now she blames them all an insurance company. So she clearly looks at this guy as a hero. And that's her talking about for the audience that doesn't know. Stanning is like, you know, stalkery fanning, like like over the top fandom. And, uh, she's talking about him as a quote, morally good man.

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He's a person that seems like this morally good man, which is hard to find. And then laughter, this guy does no pushback from CNN's correspondent. Oh, Sullivan, no pushback whatsoever, Matt.

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To your point about the books, uh, it reminds me of, we love Victor Davis Hanson. We have him on all the time. He's truly a brilliant guy. He knows everything, encyclopedic knowledge of so many subjects. And, uh, we always, you know, say like if, if Victor says it happened, it happened because his memory is so good and it's solid, but he clearly is an avid reader.

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I mean, he's a college professor, many years, uh, He's an avid reader. He's not really an avid pop culture consumer. And on one of the shows one day, he referred to the woman who was married to Jay-Z as Beyonce. Because all he does is read. That's all he does is read. It's to his credit. Taylor Lorenz is the opposite of Victor Davis Hanson. She reads nothing. She just...

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pulls out her hair, feels sorry for herself, cries on TV, doxes innocent people who happen to write conservative things, and then defend cold-blooded accused killers, Walter, as good-looking, morally good, famous, revolutionary, smart. It's so hard to find.

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Isn't it a little off message? We're going to get into all the big stories today. Joining me now for the full show, Matt Taibbi, editor of Racket News on Substack, and Walter Kern. He's editor at large for County Highway, which I like, County Highway. Together, they host the America This Week podcast. You've heard about tariffs recently, plus inflation, supply chain disruptions. It's a lot.

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Yeah, Sean Cassidy and Robbie Benson and John Travolta. That's how old I am, guys. It's a lie that she was just parroting what others might say about Luigi. Here is what Taylor Lorenz said.

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All you moms and dads out there know, it seems like yesterday, you know, it's so crazy how in a blink of an eye, 14 years go by and soon it'll be 18 and then they tell me she might leave me, though I'm in denial about that fact for my daughter and my two sons. Anyway, happy birthday, sweetheart. Yeah. Yeah. You know, oligarchy for me, but not for thee, is really what she's saying.

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Right after the murder, I mean, in hours after Thompson was killed, Brian Thompson was killed, allegedly by Luigi, she got online and expressed her dismay with the healthcare, health industry, insurance industry.

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What happened was somebody posted on Blue Sky, Blue Cross Blue Shield in Connecticut, New York, and Missouri has declared it will no longer pay for anesthesia for the full length of some surgeries. Lorenz replied, and people wonder why we want these executives dead. Following that, she went viral for a comment on Piers Morgan, where she said, quote, I do believe in the sanctity of life.

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And I think that's why I felt, along with so many other Americans, joy, unfortunately, joy upon learning that Brian Thompson, father of two boys, had been murdered, gunned down in his prime. She made her super joyful. So, Walter, don't give her one inch. She doesn't deserve it.

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Yes, classical. Retarded can mean slow as an actual word, like the process of that automobile was retarded by the nails in the road.

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That's what he was there for. Yeah, that's that's the thing. So and by the way, pro tip for you, Donnie, the way to get more women swiping right on your profile is not to suggest you think it's hilarious when people kill innocent men on the street. And that that's an awesome like, ha ha ha. Lucky him. This is such a fun conversation. Maybe that's how I'll get more girls. It's a no.

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But there is a silver lining that most people missed. President Trump specifically exempted gold and silver bullion from the tariff talk. The administration preserved the ability to diversify into precious metals. If you are concerned about your savings, consider a free consultation with a Birch Gold precious metals specialist.

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Maybe you do want to wind up with like a tailor, maybe with that kind of girl. but not with normal red-blooded American women.

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That could be. That could also be. Might as well go there since we brought it up. RFKJ is- the subject of an unfair, untrue smear.

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On Friday, he went over to FDA, the Food and Drug Administration, now run by Marty McCary, yay, of Johns Hopkins, one of the few sane voices during COVID, and did like a rally the troops kind of message, you know, like stand tall and, you know, be careful of disinformation and people trying to corrupt you, like good stuff. and made a reference as he has so many times.

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If you've interviewed RFKJ, you've heard him make this reference to this like home quote for the retarded. That was the name of the home that he volunteered at when he was young. And he talks about the Special Olympics, which was started by his family and so on. And cue the newspaper articles. He used the R word to describe children or, you know, people with disabilities. He used the R word.

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Notwithstanding the fact that that wasn't true, he was making a reference again to this group. Hold on. I'll find it. Here it is. Okay. Here are a couple of headlines. Mediaites Sarah Rumpf. FDA staffers dish on unhinged meeting with RFK Jr. where he called Special Olympics athletes retarded.

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Then, after the truth came out, she later updated the headline to FDA staffers dish on unhinged meeting with RFK Jr. Quote, the deep state is real. Without an acknowledgment, we'll go back and check it again, Sarah, that she said something that was false and potentially defamatory against him in her original headline, which was so wrong they had to take it down.

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Now, when you do that, you then need to fix it. You need to acknowledge your mistake and fix it. It's not that hard. Daily Beast, staffers walk out of RFKJ's slur-ridden speech about the deep state. Slur-ridden. Shannon Watts of moms demand action, who is a complete hack.

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This is a woman who used to run this group that didn't want guns available to children, particularly in the school setting sounded normal. She turns out to be a far left hack, partisan, dishonest person. Um,

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During remarks to FDA employees today, RFKJ touted his work for the Special Olympics, but shocked several FDA employees when he said he spent 200 hours in high school working with, quote, the retarded. Again, at our last check, the tweet was still up. No clarification. Here's what he actually said. And by the way, Politico was the original center on this. They're the ones who got this going.

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Here's what he actually said. Because of my family's commitment to these issues, I spent 200 hours at the Wassaic home for the retarded when I was in high school. I guarantee you I could tell my team to pull the clip when he said that on me and on other people's shows. This is so messed up. And there was an audio recording too. We're told that there was an audio recording of his remarks there.

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Politico went on to say the remark jolted several FDA employees in the audience who misheard the reference and thought he was making a derogatory remark about people with intellectual disabilities, according to two employees granted anonymity for fear of retaliation. Gee, why did you think that? What do you think it is about R.I.K.J.

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that led them to believe he slurred when it comes to people with mental disabilities in front of the entire FDA staff, Walter? That's the thing that's so ridiculous about it. And then he dropped the N-word. What other things would your average cabinet secretary do in front of hundreds of new employees other than find groups to slur?

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Yeah. I mean, they didn't give him a fair chance. Of course, Matt, they're not going to give him a fair chance, but they'll use anything to smear him. This is another version of binders full of women, which is proof that Mitt Romney is this raging sexist. It's kind of another version of Good people, you know, very fine people on both sides.

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You know, these lies that they make up based on one word that they pull and then twist. And but, you know, what is it like about you can't put your pants on before the lie spreads around the world? And Politico is very well read. And I'm sure in defense of these others who just ran with it, they went off of the Politico piece, which. was what got the whole thing started.

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They later did clarify writing for the record, this article and headline have been updated to make clear that Kennedy was referring to the Wassaic state school for the mentally retarded, where he worked in high school, not using a derogatory term for people with intellectual disabilities.

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Again, text MK to 989898 to claim your free info kit right now. Guys, welcome back to the show.

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you guys just did, um, did you do this on your show or did you write, did you write something on this? I can't remember. Um, but on the NPR, that's not funny challenge.

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Yeah. Okay. Cause I, I subscribe and I get it via email, Matt. I subscribe to all, almost nobody's email. You should be honored because I do not like to clog up my inbox, but I do subscribe to yours. So sometimes I don't know whether it's quotes from the show or whether it's just you. Um,

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But this also seems related to me because NPR has re-upped this old show that it put out, It's the That's Not Funny Challenge, in which they advise parents who may be concerned that their children may become murderers to keep them away from problematic jokes. Like you can't say the R word or God knows where things will go.

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And you definitely can't have a child who thinks Hitler's mustache is funny. Or you might have, you know, the next one of two things, Republican president or serial killer in the eyes of NPR. It's the same thing. And they really want in today's day and age. uh, to warn parents about the warning signs of your son becoming an incel murderer, as you put it in the piece.

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I mean, nothing says female empowerment like getting this opportunity to go to outer space and making sure everyone can see your breasts. I think it's important as they beam this woman into outer space that we answer the question, but what do her breasts look like? Am I wrong?

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Has anyone ever had an eight or nine year old boy? Literally every single piece of humor is inappropriate.

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I mean, honestly, it's like – but you point out in this piece, and it's so true, that like for decades now, especially when we all grew up, think of the things that we were listening to. Go back – and I dare anybody to go back – start the original Bad News Bears. Just hit play on the original Bad News Bears. You don't have to go two minutes in to hear every slur there is.

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The slurs for Hispanics, the slurs for blacks, the slurs for gays, all of them right there from like right out of the barn. You're like, whoa, nevermind. We're going to try something else when you have little kids. We didn't all turn into psychopathic murderers, Walter, but NPR is really worried about inappropriate humor.

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Right. Honestly, they need bad humor. They need to be able to make fun of each other. They need to be able to touch the untouchable or it becomes too important to them. It becomes like larger than life. And as usual, NPR's advice is totally wrong. An update for you. Shannon Watts is still not taking down her post. Mediaite has now added the political clarification that I read to you earlier.

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That's not good enough. You have to say, as we reported, what we reported was wrong. It ends with he was referencing this school, not using a derogatory term for people with intellectual disabilities. And then you just need to add, as we earlier reported, we misled you. That's it. We were sorry. We fucked up. We listened to Politico.

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Are they not? No, they kicked it off. Exactly, yes, but they don't own that piece of it. Hold that thought. Quick break. We're back with Matt and Walter after this. There's a lot of talk about government debt, but after four years of inflation, another real crisis is personal debt.

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nipple shaped rocket ship was about to take off. And the two commentators, I had to know their names when I heard this, uh, I'm told by Steve Krakauer include Teresa Thompson, who normally works with ESPN sports and Kristen Fisher, who used to be on Fox, but then went to CNN.

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But both of them, we believe are just doing like blue origin announcing on this particular day, like not working for an outlet. So obviously hired by Bezos to do this. And would you listen to the commentary, guys?

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Oh, my God. Their training, they did two days. And I asked my team to poll, like, what did they do during their two days? Okay, here they are. Their tasks, they spent the past two days at facilities for Blue Origin going over preparations, according to Blue Origin's Arianne Cornell. Their tasks included practicing how to get into and out of the new shepherd capsule. You go in, then you go out.

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Oh, once again, ladies. Okay. The group also practiced how to put on and take off their seatbelts. I'm dying. I'm dying. Let me see if there's anything else. Oh, they had to get fitted in their flight suits, guys. They had to get fitted, and they had to learn how to communicate with ground control. That... Okay, this is what's so funny about it to me.

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First of all, these two nitwits talking about the training they've been through, all their training, it all comes down to this. Secondly, isn't that was like astronaut training, the universal phrase for something that's extremely physically taxing on you. They used to, like, stick the astronauts in these booths and, like, make it sub-zero temperatures and then make them super confused.

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They couldn't, like, perform simple tasks anymore. And then, like, make their hearing go away. They would deprive you. Sensory deprivation. One sense after the other. And that's, like, part of the... And now it's, like, they had to learn how to get in and out. But they dressed it up on the one thing by saying they had to learn... egress and ingress. That's astronaut talk.

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And then click in and out of their seatbelts. And then the other girl going on about how After you go through an experience like that, you are more than a team. You are family. That egress and ingress and seatbelt buckling, then lying down in your Oscar de la Renta suit. Walter's just got his finger on his face. True distress.

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If that's the left. Dave Harry was quoted as saying, we're putting the ass in astronauts. Okay, all right. You go, girl.

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Yes. I was like, are these astronauts? No, it's like some girl from ESPN and some girl from CNN. Like, oh, let me tell you what the training does for you on something like this. Hello. What?

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All their training. It comes down to this. Can we hear the beginning of that again? I need to hear that again. Let's just play it again. Egress.

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drama. That's also like a stereotypically female thing, which is not great, right? To be overly dramatic when the circumstances don't call for it. I'm not saying what they were doing was guaranteed safe. Obviously we have seen accidents before. It's not like there was some degree of risk there, but the training, it all comes down to literally they learned how to buckle their seatbelts

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and wear the suits that were designer and showed Lauren Sanchez's boobs. Okay. I am. I don't, no one's going to convince me that those rockets are not phallic. I think we're all just part of some weird Jeff Bezos sexual fantasy right now. I really do. There's something happening there. I don't, I don't wish to participate. OK, there's a lot of other news. You wouldn't know it.

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But first, I got to spend a minute on you, Matt Taibbi, because you were mentioned last week on our show.

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We were talking about speaking of political, a political report about Anonymous, that guy who worked within the government, who came out during the Trump administration, was like those of us at DHS, Miles Taylor, where we were handling him behind the scenes, like we really got control of the government. Anyway, that guy left. government service in 2019 and turned out to be like a nothing burger.

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It's so cringy. I'm sorry, but I'm like, don't show your boobs. Don't talk about your ass. Don't get your specially made space suit so that we can make sure to see all your curves as you go to outer space. Is that what it is to be a woman? Just show off as much sex appeal, ass, and boob as you can. Matt, I'm not sure I didn't catch that page in the female handbook.

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He was nowhere near as important as he would have had us believe. And Trump just revoked his security clearance, which no one knows why he still had it anyway, and said, I want an investigation to see if he used any classified info. So with respect to that guy and somebody else who worked for Trump, he wanted some government snooping around to see if they had done anything wrong.

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And he's not charging anybody. He's doing some, like, kicking of the tires. And Politico, in response to this, writes this article, like, never before has the White House leaned on the DOJ or one of its top agencies to investigate a private citizen in retaliation for something that citizen has allegedly done. And I was like... Why don't you tell it to James O'Keefe and Matt Taibbi?

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And I read them Ron Johnson's press release the day you testified at that hearing on the weaponization of government only to go home and get a visit from the IRS. And Ron Johnson was saying there is zero chance this is coincidental. And then sure enough, you got audited. They began at least an audit. So I would love to know

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your thoughts on that political assertion and whether that has resolved now and the government is finally off your back.

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Wow. I mean, so your thoughts then that this by Trump is the first time it's ever happened?

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Yeah, I'm sure there was. By the way, just in case the audience doesn't remember, Twitter Files, of course, is the release of all sorts of files at Twitter, now X, by Elon once he took it over, showing massive government coordination with social media companies, including X, to do things like stifle all free discussion around COVID and many other subjects. Sorry, go ahead, Walter.

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I agree. And then you can get it on a case-by-case basis, but that seems to be plenty. Now, not content to have had your first, or at least probably wasn't your first, Matt, but your most recent appearance before Congress results in a scary visit from the IRS. You went back to Congress. You've been back a few times. And the most recent one was just a couple of months ago, I believe, whereupon-

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Well, you got, at this hearing, called a serial sexual harasser by some far-left California Democrat named Representative Sidney Kamlager Dove, who, I'll state up front, had zero evidence to support that defamatory claim she just pulled out of thin air to smear Matt Taibbi in a congressional hearing. Matt didn't love it. Here's what happened. Watch.

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So you did what very few people will do when they've been smeared. And you actually filed a lawsuit because while she has a congressional privilege to say all sorts of nonsense when she's in that seat, she repeated the smears on social media. I looked into this recently and the privilege still may exist, but not to the same extent as it does when they're in their congressional seat.

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She exposed herself by repeating that online and you're suing her for 10 million bucks. So what's behind that? Why did you decide to do that?

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Good for you. No, I remember looking at this, uh, when I can't remember whether it was Dick Blumenthal or, um, Tim Kaine, but one of them had said to Pete Hegseth, had suggested that he was beating his wife in the hearing or an ex-wife. I mean, like the literal, like classic defamatory statement. And they can be protected. These guys can do whatever they want. It's disgusting.

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But then they repeated it on social media. And I remember saying, you know, he should sue. And some smart lawyers responded saying, well, it's protected because it's speech and debate. And I actually spent some time looking into it. Um, because I didn't think social media would qualify. And, and I did find a lot of big loopholes that you could drive a truck through.

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You are far less protected when you are tweeting as a Congressman on X or on blue sky than you are when you're in that seat. And I think she's in for a whole, uh, messy legal battle that she didn't anticipate. So good for you. Cause no one ever fights back, Matt. No one ever fights back. Did you, have you had any response from her or her team?

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So Matt's too much of a gentleman to say what he really thinks, Walter, but what did you make of that exchange?

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They dropped the movie Hidden Figures years ago, right? And that's a great movie about... women who are behind the scenes. I don't know how true it is, but it's a great movie. And it's women who are behind the scenes at NASA and contributed to the space program. Okay, that I get. What did these women do?

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Yeah, it was just it was a hearing on the censorship industrial complex, the need for First Amendment safeguards at the State Department. I mean, it's really that's that's kind of a no brainer. Of course, we need First Amendment safeguards. We've been through quite a lot of censorship. That's what the Twitter files showed, among other things.

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And instead of taking any sort of a lesson and listening open mindedly, she decided to go to the politics of personal destruction. And it was despondent.

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Well, I guarantee you that woman did no research on you other than you know, smear research, uh, stuff that she could get to smear you. She, she didn't, she wasn't interested in probing who you actually are, what your views are. And she was too dumb to know you. So, you know, all of it reflected very poorly on her. And I think it will continue to, um, okay. A

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The president of El Salvador was at the White House this morning and met with President Trump. This is the guy who's taking our Venezuelan gang members and other illegals into this controversial prison, which does not look like a day at the park. And one of the guys that we deported, this guy last name Abrego Garcia,

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is at the center of the controversy now because the Supreme Court, just to be clear, has already ruled that Trump can use the Alien Enemies Act to deport these people. And what process they'll get before we deport them, the answer is some, and we'll figure out how much, but I guarantee it's not going to be much. It's not going to be much.

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Like, honestly, one is sleeping with a billionaire who created this program and is jetting people... I mean, to outer space for like 10 minutes, you know, for as long as like your average YouTube video takes. And they came back and they're like, everything's changed. Is it? I don't. Okay. They had nothing to do with any of the engineering.

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immigrants were trying to kick out, get a very de minimis level of due process. It's not like you or the three of us would get in a court of law accused of crimes. That's the highest level, by the way, an illegal accused of a crime who's tried in a court would get the same level of due process in a criminal court as we would too.

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But on deportation hearings, it's a quickie, you know, what do we know? What don't we know? Get out. And then they usually stay. Okay. So what happened with this guy was he was brought over and he was like 15 or 16 by his parents from El Salvador. And, um, then grew up to allegedly become part of MS 13 here in America, down in Virginia or Maryland around there. And, um,

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He got pinpointed as a potentially problematic guy, as a gang member potentially, and dragged into immigration court. And we had an immigration proceeding against him. We didn't have a criminal proceeding against him. And then it went up on appeal within the immigration system. And two courts, the lower court and the upper court, found that

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He had enough gang ties that they were convinced he was a member of MS-13. They took witness testimony from a confidential informant. And apparently even El Salvador says he was a member of MS-13. So he was ordered to be deported. Get out. Now he's in his mid-20s. Please leave. And only... This took a while, all these proceedings. And only on the eve of his deportation did he say, I...

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it was basically an asylum claim. You can't claim asylum in the United States unless you claim it within like the first year of being here, which he missed. But so it wasn't asylum exactly, but it was like, I need humanitarian relief. You can't send me back to El Salvador. And the reason is that there's this terrible gang there that wants to kill me and my whole family.

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We were making some sort of a food. They like to make that food. They didn't want my family to make the food. My mother, my brother, me, we'll all be dead if you send me back to El Salvador. And some judge was like, OK, and gave him this order of suspended removal where he we could still deport him. We could send him to any country in the world that would have him.

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But we can't send him to El Salvador because of this judge's order. At least then, if circumstances change, you can send him back to El Salvador. And by the way, that gang that was allegedly targeting him that he forgot to mention during two long immigration removal hearings, never mentioned once, only came up once he lost and he was already deported. no longer exists.

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So our government very easily could have gone back into immigration court and gotten an order saying the removal suspension's lifted. You're going home, buddy. But now he's like been removed, thanks to Trump. And he's playing the, I'm an American. I have kids. One may be special needs. This is so wrong. I'm just a dreamer.

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Forget all those allegations about me being part of MS-13 that two courts found were real, that El Salvador says are real. It was never found by a criminal court, so it can't be real. And we think the evidence is sketchy. And I'm an American. Send me back home, which he's not. He's an El Salvadoran.

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That's the synopsis, by the way, the one the media won't give you about this guy, Abrego Garcia, who's become the left wing's poster boy for wrongful deportations. The left has taken this case up. They got an order from a lower court judge saying we have to we have to

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make sure that he gets deported, that we, sorry, returned, returned to the United States from this El Salvadoran prison to which we were not allowed to deport him technically. And, um, The Supreme Court took it up and said, all right, you have to help facilitate his removal, but you don't have to insure it. You don't have to actually execute on it. That's somebody else's job.

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engineering there's basically they're just looking for famous faces who could draw attention to Jeff Bezos's weird little rocket his first little rocket looks exactly like a penis exactly the guy's working something out I think he's like working out his sexual fantasies on us and this one looks exactly like a breast with the nipple on the top look at this one I'm sorry gentlemen you know exactly what that looks like everyone does and now look at this one it's like a

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But you, United States government, you do have to help facilitate his removal from that prison and return. And that was a lower burden than the left wanted. They wanted you have to make sure he gets back here. And the Supreme Court would not give that. So that's where the case stands now as Bukele, the president of El Salvador, shows up at the White House.

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And all the left was saying, why don't you just put him on your plane? Put this gang member on the El Salvadoran president's plane and bring him back. Well, that didn't happen. And the news just out of the Oval is as follows. Watch.

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And now it's a very interesting legal thicket because Trump is saying, Team Trump, Stephen Miller, saying we don't have the authority to go into a foreign government, a foreign nation, and take someone who is a Salvadoran citizen who has no citizenry here and bring him back to the United States. We don't have that authority.

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Now you hear the Salvadoran president saying we don't have authority to take someone who's been said to be a gang member and adjudicated by President Trump by executive order, a terrorist, and drop him back off into the United States. And that's where things stand. Now it's getting really interesting to me. Thoughts on it, guys?

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Matt, it's very interesting because Trump got an order last week, late last week from the high court saying the deportation of the Columbia University agitator.

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Mahmoud Khalil, the guy who was the spokesperson for the on-campus group at Columbia that overtook that building, Hamilton Hall, and held people hostage and defamed the bill, or defaced the building, that Trump and Marco Rubio, who acted as Secretary of State to say his presence here is not consistent with the foreign policy goals of the United States, the high court said, you're fine, you're good there.

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That was their first poster boy. By the way, we told you that was not gonna work, and we were right. And now this guy is going down because the Supreme Court would not order a mandate that we actually make sure he get back here. And now we're in this really interesting place where we're this legal legal limbo.

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But here's and that's that works for Trump because possession is nine tenths of the law and he's in El Salvador. Here is Stephen Miller. I'm advancing this now outside of the White House. And I think it was yesterday, but I'm not sure. where all these reporters, because they're all left-wingers, they all think this guy should be released back. It was today, okay, it was this morning.

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I guess you could say igloo if you wanted to be charitable. To me, it looks like a breast from above. It really looks like a breast from above.

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They all think he should be released back into the United States, gang member or not, terrorist or not, illegal or not. And Stephen Miller, who knows this subject like the back of his hand, did a little slice and dice in the media. Watch this.

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I have to say to me, it's unforgivable, Walter, because people who listen to this show were not surprised by one word we just went through from the time I started my little soliloquy to right now. They have heard me discuss this since this guy's name came up, both on this show and on our morning update news, because it actually like if you're going to cover it. There are lots of things.

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We didn't go nosedive into the tariff policy because we don't do a lot of economic news here, and I'm not an expert on that. I gave an interview to the Daily Mail promoting something, and they kept asking me, are we going to go into a recession? I'm like, what the fuck are you asking me for? I have no idea. How would I know if we're having a recession?

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And my point is, I know my lane, and legal matters is 100% within my lane, and this is understandable. But did I know... that this guy had an order of deportation and then that he got the suspension of removal just because of the El Salvadoran sob story he gave? Yes, I did. You know why? I read. I did my homework before I reported on it.

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And you could times that by a thousand if I were going to go show up curbside and try to cross-examine Stephen Miller? Oh my God. They're lazy, Walter. They're lazy, which I guess is not a sin in and of itself, though it kind of is. It's sloth. It's actually literally a sin.

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But in any event, on top of just being slothful on their couches, they then show up unprepared and then they write articles about it, about how this guy's married to an American and they screwed up. They never should have been deported without telling you he actually did have a deportation order. He never mentioned his sob story until they are about to kick him out.

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The gang that he got the deportation order suspended over no longer exists and that he is Salvadoran. Like, what other country should we be sending him to since we have a valid deportation order for the guy right now? Anyway, that's why it's so abhorrent to see them so stupid and uninformed.

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I mean, I think that's what we found here in El Salvador. What my audience keeps emailing me, and I do read the emails, you can email me, megan at megankelly.com, is where's our due process? Where's Lake and Riley's due process? Where's Jocelyn Nungaro's due process? Where's the due process of the American citizens who are getting murdered by these criminals in our country?

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Every week you read about these, the children who are getting molested, sexually molested. I will say the vast majority of people who listen to and watch this show couldn't give a shit about Abrego Garcia's due process. They don't care. So to your original point, Walter, it's a win-win for Trump.

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Yeah. Well, we'll see. I mean, there's a bit of a I don't know, fisticuffs now because they're both like, I don't have the power.

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I don't have the power, which is a very interesting position, because what what the Supreme Court did was they said facilitate, but they don't actually have to execute on it and kicked it down to the lower court and said, you come up with a with an order that's consistent with this order.

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And now I don't know what she's going to do because she's not going to be able to force the El Salvadoran president to do anything. And our government's going to continue to say, we don't have control over what the El Salvadoran government does. Anyway, we'll watch it. Guys, stand by. Quick break. Back with Matt and Walter in one minute. We live in a world our biology just was not built for.

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So Bill Maher finally got back on his show and told us what happened when he went to the White House and met with Donald Trump. I really I like Bill Maher. I like going on a show, but he definitely has been suffering from a case of the TDS. Once the TDS gets you, it's hard to come out from under it. But I see shoots of grass mixing all sorts of metaphors.

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I think he's starting to come out from under it. And to his credit, he went there. It was brokered by Kid Rock. And to his credit. President Trump allowed it, welcomed this, and was very gracious to Bill Maher, who has been brutal about Trump for many years. So here's a bit of how Maher described the experience in SOC 12.

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Lauren Sanchez is saying, like, I don't know, they're crossing some new frontier for women. Here she was in her post-flight interview. Let's hear how she enjoyed it.

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Pretty extraordinary, Walter. I'm starting to see the veil come down. You know, he's starting to see the man that a lot of us have seen for a long time now. If we don't have the TDS, you got it. It's hard. If he comes out from the TDS, he might be one of the only ones to have ever actively had it and then shed the disease.

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I was trying to figure out why this doesn't irk me the way the Morning Joe trip to Mar-a-Lago irritated me. Because that one I just felt was performative. I really felt like they wanted access to a person in power who they had been so unfair to for years. That show in general is just such a lie and so unfair. And I don't feel that way about Bill Maher or his show at all.

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I think he's an honest broker. And he, he has, you know, Trump supporters on all the time. It's just, he, he isn't one. He hasn't been one. So I, I agree that it was a courageous thing for him to do for both of them to do. And I honestly, I give Trump tons of credit because Mars been a chief antagonist, your thoughts.

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I wonder if it's going to change at all the way he covers the president, because. He's definitely been tough on Trump. He's very tough on Democrats, too, by the way. He hates wokeism. He's been a very strong ally in that battle. But usually on Trump, he's saying something negative. And so I do wonder now if he'll start saying more positive things, Walter. And if so, what happens with his audience?

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I think he's going to say tough stuff on Trump or tough on Trump as well. He's just, you know, he doesn't like Trump. I think that's still true. But I think he saw like a glimpse of the man like that we actually know, like the real Trump and not the fighter who's out there being attacked all the time, who's got to be, you know, tough and is tough in return.

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And you know, Bill Maher among many others has thrown some very tough punches his way as well. So anyway, I'm in favor of the meeting. I feel very differently about it than I did about the Mar-a-Lago kiss the ring-a-thon by members of the media who make their living tearing him down with lies. That's not what Maher does. Anyway, guys, this was such a pleasure.

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You don't have to send me to space. I'm sorry. We're watching this woman. She was a news anchor like 10 years ago. Then she married the head of CAA. And then she reportedly cheated on him with Jeff Bezos and moved on to Jeff Bezos. And now we're supposed to celebrate her crossing new barriers for women, meaning boinking a billionaire and getting a free ticket to space for 11 minutes.

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And then this morning, a bunch of ladies celebrated female empowerment by putting on sexy fake astronaut suits and going up into sort of outer space for 11 minutes. Through all the engineering and mathematical wizardry and physics wizardry of a bunch of people who didn't get any credit and were behind some control room panel.

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Oh, wait, wait. On that front, can you just watch? Here are the women dramatically exiting the nipple-shaped space capsule. Watch this. There's the billionaire. See, honey, see what I got you for Christmas.

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I know, literally. They're treating her like she was in Nam. Where are my babies? My baby's like, she was almost dead. Here's Katy Perry. Kisses the ground. Right, right. You were in such danger. Gayle King, thanking God. And by that, I mean Oprah, without whom she'd have no career. Appreciate it.

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she too okay kisses the ground somebody already you should be kissing oprah oprah's there kiss oprah that's she's worth far more to you than than the ground thank you jesus she's i mean truly it's like they're right back from nam what did they do they got in their special oscar de la renta designed suits laid down in a capsule and came back in 10 minutes you guys

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Wasn't there at least a little part of you that was hoping they'd get untethered? I didn't want them to die, but maybe just be out there for a while so we could have a break from all this nonsense, especially from Lauren Sanchez. It's like... why are we pretending she's done anything? She, she is with Jeff Bezos. That's literally why we know her name. And again, it was all over the tabloids.

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Like they got together through an extramarital. All right, fine. People fall out of love, but like, why are we celebrating this? Like, Oh, the love affair. They're going to have this bazillion dollar wedding ceremony. And you can tell exactly who they're trying to like cozy up to. They were either on the nipple-shaped space capsule or they run cover for them in the press.

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But it's because we have this obsession with money, right? With like what looks like achievement. And Jeff Bezos is obviously very, very accomplished. But to me, it's like, I don't know. Matt, you and I have talked about this before. Like as a journalist, the more... people fawn over somebody like Bezos and this, the more I want to run the other direction, right?

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It's like my reportorial instincts are, ew, they're forming clubs again and I don't want to be a member of any of them.

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I guess we're supposed to believe that like Gayle King is an astronaut now. We're supposed to be celebrating them. Somehow it's supposed to be empowering because not enough women have gone up into space. What we mean is not enough are astronauts. Not enough women are astronauts. That's what we mean.

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It's only 13 minutes after. What's happening? Walter, you've lost control of this show.

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Here is... My team just sent me the side-by-side 2021 Blue Origin versus now, which I think was the first flight. There's Bezos in the cowboy hat and three others. And now here's the ladies of the new Blue Origin on the right with their sexy... It looks like something that...

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Remember that original Jennifer Garner movie that made her a star where she was like the spy climbing over like the lights, the beams of light. And so it looks like something our spies might need to wear. Um, and really it's just Lauren Sanchez gave this long interview about why they wore this tight outfit over here on the right. Here it is. It's sought 31. Watch this.

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They're comfortable. Again, she went to Oscar de la Renta's people, and she rejected, just so you know, I know, Matt, you were wondering, she rejected pockets on the hips because they didn't want to look too hippie. And then they had zippers put on the bottom of the pants so that she could go flare or not, depending on each woman's preference. And for all that, what did we get? Yeah, we got...

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The EU initially responding to President Trump's Liberation Day tariff plan with retaliatory measures of their own, later paused in return for a 90-day renegotiation window. Italian Prime Minister Giorgio Maloney also set to visit the White House on Friday to discuss trade policy.

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Foreign leaders are lining up to renegotiate trade deals with President Trump's economic team.

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Director of the National Economic Council Kevin Hassett telling CNN the White House is negotiating with more than 130 countries. Vice President J.D. Vance is expected to visit India next week, a diplomatic outreach as trade negotiators work out a new deal with Indian counterparts.

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On Friday, the White House exempting some Chinese electronics from the 145% tariff rate, which many in the tech world celebrated. But Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick warned that some items, like semiconductors, will be facing new tariffs within the next two months. Mr. Lutnick explained that the levies are needed to encourage U.S.

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Senior Counselor to the President Peter Navarro on NBC breaking it down further.

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President Trump gets a standing ovation and a lot of love from celebrities at a UFC event in Miami, as Senator Bernie Sanders draws record crowds with AOC in California. And the results of President Trump's annual physical are in. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update. Thank you so much for having me. But this is not just another supplement company.

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In other news, the president of El Salvador, Nayib Bukele, set to visit the White House later today to discuss further cooperation with migrant deportations. Mr. Bukele agreeing to accept and hold deported illegal aliens in his Supermax prison in exchange for a relatively small fee. More than 200 have been sent so far.

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Under President Bukele's leadership, El Salvador transforming from the murder capital of the world into one of the safest places to visit. Mr. Bukele using emergency powers to implement a military crackdown on gangs, locking up more than 76,000 Salvadorans. Many human rights groups decrying the move, saying detainees are denied due process. President Trump praising Mr. Bukele ahead of the meeting.

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Last week, the Supreme Court ruling the Trump administration must facilitate, but not effectuate, the return of mistakenly deported Salvadoran citizen, Kilmar Abrego-Garcia. The administration claims Mr. Garcia is a member of MS-13 based on earlier findings of two immigration courts.

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In 2019, a judge allowed Mr. Garcia to not be deported to El Salvador, saying he faced threats of gang violence if returned. The DOJ acknowledges Mr. Garcia was mistakenly deported to the one country that the immigration court had said we cannot send him to, El Salvador, and there he currently sits in the Supermax prison, quote, alive and secure, according to our State Department.

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What to do with Mr. Garcia likely to be a topic of conversation in today's meeting. President Trump did not mention Mr. Garcia specifically, but posted to Truth Social on Saturday, quote, these barbarians are now in the sole custody of El Salvador, a proud and sovereign nation, and their future is up to President B and his government. Over the weekend, the U.S.

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and Iran kicking off a nuclear negotiation. The Iranians seeking sanctions relief. The U.S. seeking to prevent the world's largest state sponsor of terror from ever acquiring a nuclear weapon. President Trump announcing last week that the talks would be direct. The Iranians insisting... They would not be. They want indirect and coordinated through Oman.

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Special Envoy Steve Witkoff did speak directly with the Iranian foreign minister at the conclusion of Saturday's talks. President Trump responding to the initial discussion on Air Force One. President Trump, in 2018, withdrawing the U.S. from the Iranian nuclear agreement reached under the Obama administration.

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That agreement gave the regime sanctions relief in exchange for purported limits on Iran's nuclear program. President Trump argued the deal failed to provide any meaningful prevention of Iran obtaining a nuclear weapon. The Iranians maintaining their nuclear program is purely civilian in nature.

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However, the International Atomic Energy Agency reporting the Iranians have enriched enough uranium to make at least six nuclear bombs. The New York Times reporting on Friday, the Supreme Leader of Iran, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, agreeing to initiate the talks at the request of his top advisers.

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The Times reporting, quote, if Iran refused talks or if the negotiations failed, the official told Mr. Khamenei, military strikes on Iran's two main nuclear sites would be inevitable. Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth backing that up Sunday on Fox.

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The U.S. and Iran are set to meet again this Saturday for another round of talks. Coming up, President Trump greeted by a packed crowd at a UFC fight as Senator Bernie Sanders speaks to the Coachella elite. And the results of President Trump's medical examination are in. His score on the cognitive test, next.

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On Saturday, President Trump, accompanied by several members of his administration and granddaughter Kai, stepping into a packed Miami arena for a UFC fighting event, greeted with thunderous applause from the crowd.

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Mr. Trump spending the evening shaking fans' hands, mingling with UFC President Dana White, podcaster Joe Rogan, Barstool Sports founder Dave Portnoy, RFKJ and his wife Cheryl Hines, and NBA legend Shaquille O'Neal, to name a few. the president on Air Force One reacting to the fights and the warm welcome.

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Democrat Senator from Vermont Bernie Sanders making a series of appearances this weekend, part of a fighting the oligarchy tour. You know, the one to which AOC has been flying first class. And speaking of AOC, on Saturday in Los Angeles, the New York congresswoman joining Senator Sanders on stage.

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Musicians Neil Young, Joan Baez, and Maggie Rogers also joining the progressive leaders at the event. The Sanders team reporting a crowd of about 36,000 people, their largest ever. Senator Sanders telling attendees the Trump administration is paying attention to the size of these events, saying, quote, you are scaring the hell out of them. Special Envoy and L.A.

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County resident Rick Grinnell posting on X, quote, more than 10 million people live in Los Angeles County. It's the largest county in the United States of America. This is a very low turnout for Democrats, Los Angeles and California. The one party rule in California is clearly coming to an end.

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Senator Sanders also popping up at the Coachella Music Festival in Southern California as a surprise guest. Senator Sanders ranting to the friendly, albeit captive audience.

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The general admission tickets to Coachella starting at $649, though they can go upwards of $10,000 apiece for a luxury safari glamping experience, including air-conditioned tents and a private concierge. Sounds a little oligarchical. On Sunday, the results of the president's annual physical were leaked by Walter Reed National Military Medical Center.

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President Trump on Friday telling reporters aboard Air Force One he expected to pass with flying colors.

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The report backing that up. The president achieving a 30 out of 30 on a screening tool designed to detect early signs of dementia and mild cognitive impairment. Mr. Trump losing 20 pounds since his last presidential checkup in 2020. The head, ears, nose and throat section revealing, quote, no significant abnormalities with the exception for scarring on the right ear from a gunshot wound.

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No serious concerns outlined in the report. The physician, Captain Sean Barabella, writing, quote, President Trump remains in excellent health and is fully fit to execute the duties of the commander-in-chief and head of state. And that'll do it for your AM Update. I'm Megyn Kelly.

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Join me back here for The Megyn Kelly Show, live on SiriusXM Triumph Channel 111 at noon east, on youtube.com slash Megyn Kelly, and on all podcast platforms.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and happy Monday. Oh, there's a lot to get to today. Thank you for being with us. All eyes remain on these LA wildfires, which are ongoing and the damage that they've done. And speaking of ongoing...

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I worked with him for a year plus at NBC and spent a fair amount of time with this guy. Very far left kid. And not a kid, but he's younger. And he starts asking Gavin Newsom a bunch of softball questions. And Newsom tries to spin that... Everything was filled. All the reservoirs were totally filled. I don't know what the hubbub is about.

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And Soboroff asks one follow-up question, pointing out that the reservoir that serviced Pacific Palisades was empty. Watch this.

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And who could blame her? All right, but I'm getting ahead of myself. We begin with California Governor Gavin Newsom, who spent the weekend trying to avoid responsibility as the fires were still burning by dropping by the Pod Save America podcast for an attempt to clean up his own image.

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there was a very obvious threat to this particular area. And now indeed, Stu, according to the LA Times that they believe, or the Washington Post, they believe that this fire in the Pacific Palisades was the result of a nearby fire that had started on New Year's Eve thanks to fireworks that they put out, but it was still smoldering. And with the high winds, it sort of jumped.

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Anyway, all of which is foreseeable. And he's going to die on the hill of, well, the locals didn't fill their reservoir, but the state reservoirs had water.

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Now you've got the media, including CNN's fact checker, air quotes, Daniel Dale, trying to tell us that there was no shortage of water in L.A. I mean, we know that the reservoir that serviced the area that burned to the ground was empty. But he's like, there's absolutely no problem with shortage of water in the L.A. area. Listen to this moron.

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infrastructure issues. Okay, the LA Times on Friday, a Department of Water official acknowledged that the reservoir's absence, the one we're talking about for Palisades, likely contributed to some diminished pressure and dry hydrants in upper regions of the Palisades.

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The reservoir's absence, meaning look at this empty reservoir that serves Pacific Palisades, that it contributed to the diminished pressure and the dry hydrants. So how do you figure that there's no shortage of water in the LA area, Daniel Dale, and that this empty reservoir had no effect? Who died and made you fire chief or Department of Water investigator? He knows nothing, this guy.

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All he knows how to do is run cover for Democrats. They go on in the LA Times, to your point about Michael Lewis, this is no conservative publication. This is not the Wall Street Journal or the New York Post. They write, citing a former, that quote I read you was from a current DWP official. Now they go to a former general manager, a guy named Martin Adams.

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Had the reservoir been operable, it would have extended water pressure in the Palisades. It would have. Of course, because they ran out of water pressure in the upper parts of the Palisades once the lower parts of the Palisades were in trouble. And by the way, Janice, the woman who runs the Department of Water Works, came out and admitted all this already, Daniel Dale.

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Daniel Dale, I fact-checked you, and you failed. You failed the fact-check. And honestly, it would help you a lot if you would just stop, if you would just check your political agenda when actually looking into things, because we've heard the water chief talk about this. She was out there the day after talking about how the low-pressure

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prevented them from getting water in the upper regions of the Palisades. And then none of the officials denied that there was no water in the reservoir that was supposed to be servicing those hydrants. that that was indeed a big problem for the firefighters. It wasn't just the fact that there's shitty infrastructure. It was the absence of water to draw from in the first place.

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In any event, you won't hear that on CNN. you know why. All right, standby.

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We're going to take a quick break and we'll come right back with Stuber gear and more coverage of what's happening in LA and what's happening tomorrow morning, beginning at nine 30, which is Pete Hegseth and Pam Bondi face the beginning of their confirmation hearings and what the Democrats are now threatening when it comes to Pete. Are you ready to make better sleep your New Year's resolution?

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So you've got Daniel Dale of CNN saying there was absolutely no water shortage. It's not a thing. And then Elon Musk, God love him because he's getting the Starlink satellite feed up so that people can have service out there. He's doing a lot as he always does in these tragedies to help people.

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So you decided the thing to do would be to go on pod, save America to talk about it because it's in the end, it's all about you. This is another David Muir folks. He is just as vain and worried about his image in the middle of this emergency as David Muir with his little fake fireman's jacket and clothes pins in the back. It's the same person, the same person, though.

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And he goes out there and he's become sort of a citizen journalist with his iPhone going out there trying to film. He did it in Israel after 10-7. Now he's in LA with some of the firefighters.

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And the problem he has in talking to some of these firefighters is it's not a high likelihood that the firefighters on cam with Elon Musk and being seen by their bosses and by LA Mayor Karen Bass and by everybody are going to throw anybody above them under the bus. So at the end of their 13-minute exchange, the following thing happened. Watch.

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Okay. So we were flowing an amount of water that the system couldn't hold. So he doesn't point to the reservoir and he doesn't talk about the empty hydrants. He says, you know, the amount of water that we were throwing through this urban system was too much for the system.

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And in his defense, the water works woman, Janice Quinones did say after the fire that, um, an urban system cannot handle the amount of firefighting that we were doing. Normally, they would throw in helicopters with water, but they couldn't given the winds. All right. So ultimately, what they did was they got tankers of water to come and sort of serve as backup. But too late, too little, too late.

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Right. Again, a failure of planning. In any event, no acknowledgement by the firefighter and who knows whether even understood about the reservoir that was empty that services Palisades.

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However, a Department of Water official spoke to the LA Times again and acknowledged, quoting here, that the reservoir's absence likely contributed to diminished pressure and dry hydrants in the upper regions of the Palisades. So it's already been admitted. Nonetheless, what do you see now after Elon tweets out his live stream? Gavin Newsom's like, his lies have been exposed, exposed.

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And then he's like, Oh, yeah. By the way, I want a full report on why that reservoir was empty. Right. So it's like trying to have it both ways. It's a lie that we were out of water, but we were out of water. And I want a full report because it was definitely not my fault. It was the locals. And then you've got the local firefighters being like, oh, the diminished pressure.

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So no one in Los Angeles should expect clear and honest answers because they all lead back to government incompetence and refusal to take responsibility still.

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I have to say Gavin Newsom's probably a little smarter than David Muir, but that's the bar is very low. Um, Listen to this. He goes out there. Uh, hold on a second. Do we have it here? It's sought for it's Gavin Newsom talking on pod. Save America. No, no. Is it positive America? Yeah. Yeah. I'm positive America about it to me. It's like a,

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Yeah. Why weren't the tankers that we eventually saw in these neighborhoods pre-positioned so that there'd never be a situation in which those in the upper hills of the Palisades would run out of water as we saw reported by firefighters left and right, which the media also tried to tell us was not true, but then had to admit because the firefighters were coming out and saying it.

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The gaslighting that the City of Los Angeles is going through must be infuriating for those who are looking at their houses in ashes right now. Just as an update, as of today, the latest count is 24 dead. Cadaver dogs are now being brought in to locate human remains. They expect that number to go up. 12,300 structures have burned. That Palisades fire is only 13% contained.

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The Eden fire, which is one of the other ones, 27% contained. And so they're still in danger out there. I want to get to what the fire chief now is saying. This woman who, you know, she's a lesbian. She wants you to know she's a lesbian. Yay, she's a lesbian in the first line of her fire chief file. And she hired two other lesbians to work for her right under, okay, great.

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Anyway, she is now potentially gonna get fired. The Daily Mail had a report out at 4 p.m. on Friday saying she'd been fired. And then they had to update it saying, actually, it didn't go as planned. She went into the meeting with the mayor expecting to get fired. Somehow something happened in that room, they say, that led to her not getting fired. I don't know, but this woman,

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She knows how to fight fires and she's doing it now on the air. And she is like, bitch, I'm not going down alone to the LA mayor. It's been pretty extraordinary to watch this woman Crowley fight back and tell us all that I've been trying to warn these morons that we needed more resources and that we were not in a position to do what we needed to be able to do.

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Her fire department got caught $17 million by this mayor in the last year's budget, but that's not all. So let me give you number one, where she spoke to Fox LA on Friday, Sat 7.

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Did they fail you? Yes. Oh boy, shots fired. Okay, then she goes over to Jake Tapper's show on CNN on Friday and listen to this.

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it's like a Hillary Clinton moment, you know, when she went, she was like, the flames were licking me as I rushed across the airport. And then Cheryl Atkinson came out who had been there reporting on this visit that Hillary Clinton was doing for CBS and showed absolutely nothing happened at the airport. She was totally, the drama, it all, it's very image serving.

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By the way, she went on like that was not the only like she's unloading now, Stu. So good luck to Daniel Dale and Gavin Newsom and Karen Bass, who all just want to run cover for the Democratic leadership.

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I mean, these just to. give people an idea of scale. Manhattan is 14,000 acres. In LA, at least 17,000 acres have been burned to the ground, have been eliminated. They're gone. Um, it's, it's truly, it is shocking. I heard somebody saying it looks like Mars, you know, like it looks like the surface of Mars now just burned embers. Think about it. An area bigger than the Island of Manhattan.

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Think of if New York was, were just eliminated. It looks, forgive me, but it looks like a nuclear bomb hit the region and it's just gone. Just a huge swath of one of our most beautiful cities. is gone. So all these politicians are done. They don't appear to know it. But Mayor Bass, your career's over. You're probably gonna be recalled and kicked out of office.

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There's a change.com petition with over 100,000 signatures. She's going. I don't know if she knows that. Gavin Newsom, same. You're effed. Stop telling us about the embers in your hair. It's over for you, my friend. I'm sorry, but your political career ended last week. Again, he's pretending like he doesn't know it. I'm here to tell you, you're done. Um, the only question is what they do now.

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The drama that Gavin Newsom was basically almost burned, burned alive. The governor of California, take a listen.

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And I have to tell you, like my friend who lives in California, whose house burned, um, is this is my one woke friend. I love this woman dearly, but she's woke. And amazingly, we've maintained our friendship. We kind of just don't talk about these subjects much, but yeah. She's woke. And she's like, MK, everyone I know is ready to vote Republican.

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She's like, everyone I know, all of her woke friends, all of her Dem friends. She was like, we're all talking about how soon we can get Republican leadership into these offices. I mean, that is saying something.

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two things. One, it's his vanity that makes him refuse to acknowledge reality. He's done. It's over, Gavin Newsom. It's over. It's his vanity. And that's why, you know, the hair and the meet the press and pod save America. Let me re rehabilitate my own image and Karen Bass too. She promised she wouldn't take the overseas trips. She took the overseas trips.

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Jesse Kelly was here on Friday saying these people who run for local office tend to be middling and unimpressive. I'm putting it in nicer terms than Jesse did. And he said they use the taxpayer's dime to go on these boondoggles to see the world. They want you and me and my friend in L.A. to pay for their vacations so they can go around and see Ghana, which is super cool.

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And, and this woman, Karen Bass is on record saying when, like she says, when I first considered running for LA mayor and I realized I wasn't going to be able to take my trips to Africa, I first thought, yeah, I don't want to do that. I don't want to give that up. But, you know, then I realized I'm going to have to do it. Well, she didn't do it. She's been over to Paris three times.

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Now she's like, oh, it's because of the Olympics. I had to go see the Olympics. And she's back and forth to Ghana. So the vanity, right, of these players who we keep putting in office, when you want somebody who's just a workhorse, again, like a DeSantis, who just wants to get in there and do a good job, who gets off and being patted on the back for his competency.

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not for his hair or how well-traveled he is. So, okay, that's number one. And then I want to show this, too, when we talk about Nagasaki and Mars and what it looks like now. There's this guy, he's on TikTok. His name, he goes by Selfish Chef. He doesn't give his real name. And he was coming back into the California region from, I think, Florida, where he'd been? Orlando.

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And look, so you can see he's filming. This is Saturday. Look at this. He saw LA, which was dark. And then you get to the fires burning. Just wait, because it goes on. You see a third of the city just completely on fire, truly as if a nuclear bomb has been dropped on Los Angeles. And it keeps going and going. Look, there's more and more. Yeah. and more. This was Saturday, Stu. This was Saturday.

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This wasn't Tuesday, the day that all the homes burned. This is ongoing. And the fucking governor goes on Pod Save America.

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Okay. Why is he saying is God is my witness and I'm not making this up before he tells the story? Truly like, can I see the video? Can I see the numbers in your hair? I mean, I've got questions, sir. I don't find you to be a truth teller based on a long, long history of your lies. But seriously, who stops? Can you imagine if Ron DeSantis in the middle of responding?

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I wasn't because I'm too small, okay? Message to the fellow women of America. I am too petite, okay? to fight fires. I'm strong enough for a five foot six woman who's in relatively good shape. I can do stuff that the average person my size can do, but I can't fight fires because I can't lift men or anything over about 70 pounds over my shoulder. And that's even being generous to myself.

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You know what I hear when I listen to you? Racism. I hear racism. Yeah, I hear it when I listen to myself talking about Karen Bass, too. It must be our racism. Just ask these two D-list actresses, Yvette Nicole Brown and Kim Whitley, with a different take on why Mayor Karen Bass is coming under such criticism.

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the ongoing lack of accountability from the top officials. It is truly a game of like, he's pointing to her and she's pointing to him and he's pointing to them. Nobody, not one person, not one person has stepped up to say, I take responsibility like Ron DeSantis would. I'm sorry, he's my model because that's another state that's dealt with overwhelming natural disasters time and time again.

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No, no, not in the middle of responding. In the middle of the hurricane devastating his state, swinging over to talk with the guys at Ruthless about how it affected him. I got super wet. The rain came down, got in my hair, and then my hair got blown too. Not making this up. Hand to God. There's videotape of it. The press would be excoriating him. But Gavin Newsom, let's talk about my hair.

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She directed people to URL who wanted help finding resources. She's too dumb to be the mayor.

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That's what's incredible. Think about it. Kamala Harris was a DEI hire, 100% for vice president. Karen Bass almost got the job. She's even dumber than Kamala. That's obvious. And then you've got three fire chiefs, like the top, the deputy, and the person who runs DEI at the LA Fire, who are apparently there because they have vaginas and they like to share them with other women.

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I mean, honestly, I'm sorry. I'm allowed to question your competency when it's very clear you did not get hired because of it. When you yourself are touting all the firsts, Kareem Jean-Pierre is another one. She's in there touting how she's the first black lesbian. She sucks too.

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Stop touting these irrelevant characteristics as reasons we're supposed to celebrate you and then try to hide behind them when you come under criticism for your incompetence. Obviously, those questions are going to be asked. If you are crushing the job, not so much. When you are terrible at it, live by DEI, die by DEI.

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So on the subject of whether they were prepared, there was a report on Friday by the Daily Mail saying that there's a leaked memo revealing that Karen Bass, the mayor, demanded that this fire department, from whom she'd already cut $17 million, cut an extra $49 million from their budget just one week before these wildfires.

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There was a leaked memo of Karen Bass's proposed cuts obtained by a fire department whistleblower. It's dated January 6th. And in it, Bass demanded that the fire department make an extra $49 million in budget cuts on top of the 17.6 million she already cut saying, let's see. Oh, and then, then let's see.

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OK, yeah, she says the only way to provide a cost savings would be to close as many as 16 fire stations, not resources, but fire stations. This equates to at least one fire station per city council district and then says openly they're trying to allocate more money for the homeless and they need to start taking from everyone. It's pretty amazing.

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Then you've got the Free Beacon with a report that two months before these blazes, the L.A. fire chief, this woman Crowley, said she needed more firefighters, that they didn't have enough. And on November 18th, she asked them. for more, saying the fire department has not grown in decades despite significant population growth, saying we are not able to meet the challenges of this city right now.

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We need more firefighters. So you got Karen Bass saying you need another 50 million cut from you. And the fire chief saying, actually, what we need is more money and more firefighters. We're not equal to the task right now. And, um, of course that's not what happened.

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Uh, and then of course you've got reports out of the Washington post saying the firefighters were slower to respond to this blaze that unleashed in the Palisades because it was so widespread. They were spread too thin and they didn't have enough people. So all of that, you can see exactly what was happening here. Um, they didn't have enough people. They, she did try to say something about it.

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It wasn't listened to. And Now back to the DEI point. Here's a butted soundbite. You're going to hear the fire chief, Kristen Crowley, her DEI head, who is also a lesbian and black, double bonus, talking about her DEI efforts. And we've played the soundbite before.

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And then the third thing on here is going to be Janice Quinones, the woman who runs the water department, who's celebrating her commitment to DEI. Listen.

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Equity and social justice. I'm sorry, Stu, but I think they should all be fired. They should all be fired. Any time you spent, Fire Chief, worrying about making sure you have the staff for DEI and so proud that you amassed the staff for that while you're short firefighters, you should be fired. You're... Black lesbian DEI chief, that's a position that is unnecessary.

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And if she says, I want a firefighter coming to rescue me who looks like me, she is dead wrong, dead wrong. I want someone who looks like The Rock to come in and rescue me. And then the last one, DEI is her number one priority, social justice and equity. No wonder they didn't have water.

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Not to mention, it's like these three women who are at the top there are all, I mean, honestly, I'm not trying to be mean, but they're obese. These are overweight, out of shape women. And the last thing I want to see if I am in a burning building is A, a woman and B, an obese woman. Who takes comfort? I'm going to die, but it's in the presence of an obese lesbian. This is ridiculous.

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I speak for all women. I believe I speak for all females in Los Angeles when I say, we want a strong man to rescue us. That's what we want. Do we ask for too much?

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If they are so intent on getting women into the ranks of the fire department, why can't we get the so-called trans women Let's get the fake women who want to invade our sports and redirect them to the fire department.

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That would be a great place for you to break barriers as a quote woman in the firefighting realm where you still have all of your male advantage because you've become a quote woman post puberty. Everybody wins.

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I just wait, Leah Thomas. We've got good news and bad news. You can no longer swim with the ladies, but you can firefight with the best of them. Okay. Megyn and Harry. These absolute cretins decide to inject themselves into the devastation in Los Angeles for one reason, to get their faces back on camera and to improve their image.

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They want people to think well of them, so they decide, you know what they really need? Us. What they need is us. And honestly, Stu... You go there, you don't make a mention. No, you don't get caught on camera. Nobody knows what you did, that maybe that's one thing. Although with these two, no. But no, they made sure that they got on camera. They made sure that their names got in the press.

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And that was the name of the game. First of all, I got one other thing. When you're actually a member of the royal family, Harry... and the British population answers to you, sort of they're your subjects, maybe they do need to see you during times of tragedy. You're in America now, and we don't give a shit about you. You're not our fucking prince. You'll never be king. We hate your wife.

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Stay at home in your $29 million mansion, all right? Stop getting off on the trauma porn of real suffering in Los Angeles. It's ridiculous. It's offensive. And don't take my word for it. Go and follow the X-Feed of our friend Justine Bateman, who just went off on these, what did she call them? Disaster opportunists, which is exactly right. Disaster tourists.

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By the way, Cory Jean-Pierre would tell you it's noble. It's the noble Peace Prize.

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The queen's husband was dying and she went on Oprah and suggested one or both of them are raging racists. She couldn't have cared less. She doesn't care about anyone other than herself. And I include Harry in that. She cares about her image. That's why she's there. That's why she's writing positive messages on bananas to sex workers forever. which just happens to be on camera.

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If you want to help the people of Los Angeles, and I know that millions of Americans around the country right now are doing exactly this, you can make a donation. You can participate in GoFundMes. There are all sorts of groups that will help you. You don't have to fly there and inject yourself right in the heart of it on camera where you know you'll become the story.

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She did the same thing after Uvalde. She flew down there and made sure she got on camera when kids had just died at the hands of a shooter. This is a pattern for her. It's not about charity. It's about her image.

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Why doesn't she give them the proceeds of that Netflix deal? Why doesn't she give them some huge donation from her? She got $150 million from Netflix and Spotify, and that's what led Bill Simmons to call them grifters because they did nothing over at Spotify. Now she still takes the Netflix check. You know why she can't air her special? Because it's all about

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her Martha Stewart type reinvention in her huge mansion, even though it's not her mansion, it's a rented mansion, trying to make herself into like queen of Montecito and sell us jams and breads and a lifestyle that she's curating. It would be a Bit tone deaf for her to release this steps from the ashes, including of her neighbors in LA, her dead neighbors and their community.

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That's been absolutely level people who don't have her 150 million. She can't release it. And Netflix, you release it now at your own peril. That thing needs to wait a year minimum before it hits the airwaves. Otherwise you'll have people like me all over you for being disgustingly insensitive. All right, we have to move on because there's a couple of things we have to hit.

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Okay. You know what? We could do a pay-per-view and we could donate the proceeds to those suffering in LA. She should totally do it. It would raise tens and tens of millions. Pete Hegseth, the hearing begins tomorrow. at 930. And the news headline is that the top Democrats are a whining that they have not received the FBI report on Pete, which they historically don't receive.

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Historically, this is only provided to the chairman of the committee, Senate armed services, who got it along with the ranking member, the top Dem who got it. They don't get to keep it, but they get briefed on it. But all these lower losers are like, why don't we have it? Because you're not the chair and you're not the ranking member. Sorry.

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Go talk to the ranking member if you want to know what was in it. And you've got Dick Blumenthal, who's from my now adopted home state, Connecticut, saying there is damning information that won't even be in the FBI report. This is from The New York Times.

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He says, OK, Democrats on the committee believe that there are additional allegations that should appear in the pages of the FBI background check to inform their questioning. That belief is based in part on information they have gleaned from individuals who have quietly approached Senate offices to divulge info about Mr. Hegseth. Quote,

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damning is an understatement, said Senator Richard Blumenthal, Democrat of Connecticut, referring to additional info about Mr. Hegseth that he has been made aware of that in his estimation ought to appear in that FBI report. It was not clear what information he was referring to.

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So he's trying to generate a bunch of negative headlines about Pete and I guess has some sort of big surprise potentially for Pete tomorrow based on some rando who came to him and somehow not the FBI. What do you make of it?

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And you tell me what the answer is to my question about what the press would be doing to Ron DeSantis if he swung by the Ruthless podcast in the middle of the hurricane. The fires are still burning. There's zero purpose in going on Pod Save America other than to burnish his own image.

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Any length to destroy somebody. Okay, so that raises an interesting question, which is, do the Democrats trot out that alleged rape accuser who complained that he allegedly raped her back in 2017, which led to no charges because the local authorities were not satisfied there was actually a case there? So do they trot her out, Christine Blasey Ford style, tomorrow to kick things off with a bang?

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Then why did her friend leak the memo to the Trump transition team? Her friend. There is no friend on earth who would leak a memo to the Trump transition team that you had allegedly been raped by his DOD nominee without your permission.

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I mean, it's very clear this woman greenlit this report, probably again because of the husband, who is very dug in on the he raped her narrative, which is much better for him than my wife slept with Pete Hegseth down the hall while I was asleep in our hotel room with our two minor children. Um, but I don't know.

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So far, the woman, you know, she, she made a splash or somebody on her behalf made a splash with the, with the Trump transition team saying, here's a memo, read this. But since then, nothing. And they've been threatened by Pete's lawyers. defamation is still a thing. Like you come out and repeat these defamatory allegations. We're ready. So we'll see. I mean, there's a lot at stake tomorrow.

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And that'll be the big question for me. Did the Democrats actually put her on? And does this woman have the nerve to say publicly what she said behind closed doors?

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If you're lying, the last thing you want to do is go testify before Congress and lie under oath and in a way that would be defamatory and you could get sued. Like, my God, it'd be hard enough to do if it were true. And if it's a lie and you're under pressure simply from your husband, this is a supposition, even harder.

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So we'll see how far the Democrats do, you know, bring this tomorrow and what witnesses they are prepared to unleash. We will have... full coverage of all of that rest assured.

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And then we have to see what happens with Pam Bondi too, because while we have every assumption she'll get through relatively easily, there, there are many on the left who are saber rattling now because she defended some of Trump's election claims. And they're like, we can't have an election denier as the attorney general. So it's not going to be all that pleasant for her either.

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And it'll be fascinating to watch just how hard they go. Stuber gear, a pleasure, my friend. Thanks for being here.

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All right. Coming up next, we've got Ilya Shapiro. You remember Ilya, who got completely screwed over by Georgetown Law, remember? Because he sent out that tweet about so-called lesser black woman when he was saying the obvious best choice for the U.S. Supreme Court was some Indian jurist who he was backing.

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And he was saying instead, because Biden has said we're going to get a black woman no matter what. that he thought it would be a lesser than because he thought the best person was this Indian guy. In any event, they ruined his career as a result of that tweet, ruined it. And now he's out with a book, which is written like... The Washington Examiner says it reads like a thriller. And it's true.

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I do kind of believe, having been through something similar, only when you've been subjected to the most disgusting, canceled culture mob... Do you find like the fierce power to really put their terrible behavior in perspective? And Ilya does just that and shines a light on what's happening at our law schools with the out of control DEI. I mean, they...

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These law schools, they would love what that fire chief said and what her third in command said and what that Janice Quinonez said. And all those law students are what we call future lawyers and future judges and God forbid, even future Supreme Court justices. We take a look underneath that curtain next. I'm Megyn Kelly, host of The Megyn Kelly Show on SiriusXM.

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Back in 2022, we told you the story of how Ilya Shapiro, very respected lawyer and public commentator, was about to start a new prestigious job as the executive director of the Georgetown Center for the Constitution. That was before a woke mob demanded he lose the job before he even began it. He was immediately suspended and Georgetown conducted a four-month investigation into a single tweet.

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Tweet the one that I just referenced. The university lifted the suspension on the technicality that Ilya was not yet an employee at Georgetown when he posted. And Ilya joined us on this show in June of 2022 to discuss the emotional toll of the whole ordeal.

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Ugh, these disgusting people. But that was not the end of the story. Just days later, Ilya resigned, saying the atmosphere at Georgetown made it untenable for him to do his job, even though they were like, we'll see, we'll kind of tolerate you, you know, under strict conditions, he can start here. Well, he is back here today stronger than ever.

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He has a new job as the director of constitutional studies at the Manhattan Institute, which we love. Read City Journal. It is the best publication. And he's out this week with a new book called Lawless, the Miseducation of America's Elites. Oh, it's like shoot it into my veins.

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It's about the illiberal takeover of American law schools and its dire consequences on free speech, civil discourse, and much, much more. Ilya, welcome back. And thank you for writing this.

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I just want to show people the amount of hysterics over your one tweet, which you wound up saying, okay, it was poorly worded, but the principle stands. We should not be choosing Supreme Court justices based on their lady parts and their skin color. And this led to such... affected, upset at Georgetown Law School and elsewhere. But I mean, it was truly performative.

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And these are the two clips that I asked my team for because I remember them. First, the students who are protesting you, in quotes, wanted reparations because they missed lunch, I think it was. Here it is, stop 37.

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She wants reparations in the form of free food. And crying rooms, Megan. Wait, we have that. That's the second one. Sod 38.

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So you've got to call the dean to say, I need to cry. I can't have anybody looking at me. And he will find you space as opposed to educating law students.

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It's called Lawless, the Miseducation of America's Elites by Ilya Shapiro. You can get it right now. It's on sale officially beginning January 14th. But let's support Ilya and get it, get the advance, because that helps drive up his numbers. And we want to force him onto the New York Times bestseller list. That'll really get their goat.

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So you start digging into, geez, maybe it's not just Georgetown Law School that's lost its ever-loving mind. Perhaps this is a real problem because it wasn't just at Georgetown we've seen this terrible behavior. Who could forget this one? This is SOT39, and I remind the audience we covered this.

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This is out at Stanford Law School where the associate dean for DEI tried lecturing Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals Judge Kyle Duncan back in March of 2023 just to give you a flavor of for how widespread the craziness is that Ilya is starting to dig into. Watch this at 39.

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They're snapping. If you're snapping, you're out. I'm not hiring anybody who snaps as applause. And they're thrilled because he's a Fifth Circuit, which is a more conservative bench. And he was a Trump appointee so that he's not allowed to speak at Stanford. And, you know, that's that's why she's saying is the juice worth the squeeze, because you've written opinions to which we object.

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But you found this is not just a Stanford or Georgetown problem.

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We are seeing DEI crumble minute to minute. You had Mark Zuckerberg last week saying it's done at Meta, no more DEI at Facebook. You have all these big companies like Caterpillar and Walmart, very well-known companies, thanks in large part to the work of Robbie Starbuck, who's been serially embarrassing them all by threatening to just make it public what they're doing.

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starting to run an abandoned DEI. You had a very interesting legal case just last week. It was U.S. District Judge Reed O'Connor in Fort Worth, Texas, who ruled on Friday that American Airlines violated its legal responsibilities in managing employees' retirement assets by encouraging environmentally and socially responsible investing in its 401k plan.

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This has been happening more and more where these companies try to bend the knee to so-called ESG, which is another form of DEI, and say we're only going to use like BlackRock to do our investments. And BlackRock prioritizes companies that will get little pats on the back from the DEI crowd instead of prioritizing making money.

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And now we have a federal district court ruling saying you violated the law. You have a legal responsibility to these retirees to make money, not to make yourselves feel like so-called good people. My point is it's starting to crumble, Ilya, but not at the law schools.

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That, by the way, when they strike may be a mystery, but that they're going to strike is not. And he would be the first to say the buck stops with me. I'm the chief executive of the state. To the extent there was an inadequate preparation or response, it's on me. That's what Ron DeSantis would say. You know it and I know it.

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Again, the book is called Lawless by Ilya Shapiro. Get it now. The law school thing, is there any chance what's going to happen there and what is happening is what we've seen even at the far left schools in places like New York City. I've told the audience before, I have a friend, she was committed to the left. She canvassed for Joe Biden back in 2020. Her kids, lefties,

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And now, especially her son, who's at one of these snooty private schools in New York City, has completely been red pilled. He is 100 percent Trump. He's pro MAGA. He's got the hat because they pushed him too far. These kids, they want to rebel. against the machine. And when the whole machine is like, you will be woke and you will prioritize skin color and gender and sexual preference.

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At some point, the mob underneath moves the other way to say, we won't.

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My advice to any law school student or a college student, for that matter, who is under threat of being downgraded unless they say the left-wing things they're being asked to say is don't do it. Write what's true, what's real, what you really feel, even if it's non-woke, And then when you get the bad grade, you save it like a merit badge.

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And when you go out to interview for a real job and you will have done your research on who's far left and who's normal, you show it to them. You show them why you got a D in con law, the first D of your career, because you were a straight A student in everything.

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in the danger areas before the hurricane hit. And this is the same thing. They knew the Santa Ana winds were gonna be up to 100 miles an hour before Karen Bass left for Ghana, which now the LA Times is reporting that when she ran for mayor, because she'd been flitting about the world when she'd been a US Congresswoman, including over to Africa many times.

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everything else prior to that moment, because you wrote that woke ism is ruining America and is pernicious in particular in advanced degrees like law and medicine, right? That, and then you should work for the employer who celebrates your D with you like me or like Ilya people that were out there. We're half the country.

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Truly. But just more and more, you look at the numbers, look at the people who put Trump in office. They've rejected this wholesale. You're not alone.

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You just have to find the right employer and get through these far left institutions who try to ruin you and make you say what they want you to say, make you feel what they want you to feel before you can have access to the employers who feel very differently. Here's what Peter Thiel said on the Honestly podcast in November about these far left universities. Kind of interesting. Listen here, 40.

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How about that, Elia? It's like going from sea level up to the Rockies to do your aerobic training. Then you come back down to fight the fights at sea level.

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Yeah, the judge would be like, I'll make you cry. Great. You want to cry? No problem. You came to the right place. I mean, somebody's got screamed at by more than her share. It's like that's life. That's law.

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Again, the book is called Lawless, the Miseducation of America's Elites by Ilya Shapiro. I got to ask you this, Ilya. So there's a couple of things in the news that I'm going to take advantage of your expertise to talk about. It just came out that the Jack Smith report, even though Jack Smith is now officially resigned, his position as special prosecutor is going to come out.

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She promised the citizens of LA she would not take any international trips. She said, don't worry, not only will I be living in Los Angeles, but I will not leave Los Angeles on any international trips if I become mayor. And what does she do? She went to Ghana. Why? It was something super important, something she really needed to get No, she was a damn boondoggle.

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uh, about Trump that even judge alien cannon down there in Florida has cleared the way for a piece of it to come out. Trump thinks this is nonsense. He's like, the guy was never properly appointed. The court ruled that judge alien cannon ruled that. So why should people have access to this? Do you think that makes any sense?

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My hope is that we get our hands on the Jack Smith internal memos, but my belief is that they've all been burned. There will be no record of them when Team Trump takes over. Ilya Shapiro, thank you for being here. Again, the book is Lawless, The Miseducation of America's Elites. We're back tomorrow with full coverage of what they do to Pete Hegseth. Don't miss this show.

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She had to be there for the inauguration of the leader. Who gives a shit whether we have an LA mayor at the inauguration in Ghana? I mean, it's ridiculous. Anyway, okay, so she is totally incompetent and they'd been warned.

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She'd been warned, her office had been warned, and the citizens of Los Angeles had been warned that the Santa Ana winds were going to be very dangerous and that there was a supremely high risk of fire. Did she pre-position, you know, the electrical workers, the firefighters? Did she bring in tanks and tanks of extra water? Did she make sure the reservoirs were filled?

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Did anybody under her do that? Did Gavin Newsom? No one. No one did any of that, Stu.

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And what you have in California is these mealy mouthed, kale eating, broccoli pushing, Birkstock, whatever, wearing pants. Politicians who can't find another person fast enough to blame. My absolute favorite, though, is the fire chief. She's growing on me. When she's not focusing on her lesbianism, she's actually quite fierce. She is not going down without bringing Mayor Karen Bass with her.

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Gavin Newsom is now writing to the Department of Water and Power and to L.A. Mayor Karen Bass demanding an investigation. He writes, I request that the Water Department and L.A. County officials swiftly prepare a comprehensive review examining their local preparation, underscore local preparation. Local, because the state preparation, trust me, it was absolutely perfect.

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Local preparation and response procedures to ensure available water supply for emergencies and document any causes of the loss of water pressure and unavailability of water supplies. Fully and transparently, please share the information and records, blah, blah, blah. Babylon Bee comes out.

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This is actually, this was, you know, prescient because this is a January 2022 headline, but it's perfect for that letter I just read, which just came out on Friday. Gavin Newsom demands answers from whoever's in charge of California. Exactly right. So now he wants an after action review. This is like he is pretending like there is just complete separation of church and state here.

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You know, he had absolutely nothing to do with it. Like if if there's a local government that the governor really his hands are tied, he can do nothing to prepare for an emergency nor to address it after the fact. All he can do is just demand answers like Stuberger and Megyn Kelly, like as observers outside the realms of power.

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Not only has he been opposing it, but he's been funneling the California taxpayers' money to the homeless who are everywhere, thanks to him, to soft-on-crime DAs, right, who he supports and Searle supports, who are letting these looters in and out. And then he denies it.

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Meanwhile, we've seen the law that's been on the books up until recently when the California taxpayers reversed it, saying if you steal under $1,000, we're not going to come after you. It's fine. It's a misdemeanor. and to these illegals who are now getting Medicaid in California thanks to him. Illegals. So, like, this guy's priorities are not with keeping people safe at all.

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He doesn't care about the crime, about the illegals, and obviously not about the fires, which, after the fact, you know, again, like, hey, sure, could somebody let me know how that happened? That seems bad. He... Gets caught out in front of the fires by NBC's Jacob Soboroff, who is further left than Gavin Newsom. Trust me, I know him.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. I hope everyone out there enjoyed their Mother's Day weekend because the news cycle has quickly moved into overdrive. Yes, for those of you who listen to AM Update, you are stuck with me for today's podcast, not my three wonderful children who anchored. The AM update today.

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Meanwhile, it's like the Democrats are the ones who claim that they've been for this. You know, so let's let's see. I mean, Robert Kennedy, RFK, Jake, got out there today and was he seemed genuinely stunned. I mean, he knew it was coming, obviously, but he I think even he didn't have hopes this high that Trump would do something like this. Here he was earlier this morning, Satu.

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And so the White House is sort of saying, see, I'm playing chess and I'm winning. And smart guys like Charles, who doesn't have TDS, he's a Trump fan actually, are saying, look, the reality is this was not a winnable war. So whatever, it's good that it's paused. That's his take for what it's worth. Um, also this, I mentioned this new executive order on prescription drug prices.

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Mm-hmm, that's right. So the executive order, I'll just read a bit from the beginning of it. It says purpose. The U.S. has less than 5% of the world's population and yet funds around three quarters of global pharmaceutical profits.

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This egregious imbalance is orchestrated through a purposeful scheme in which drug manufacturers deeply discount their products to access foreign markets and subsidize that decrease through enormously high prices in the USA. The US has for too long turned its back on Americans who unwittingly sponsor both drug manufacturers and other countries.

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These entities today rely on price markups on American consumers, generous public subsidies for research and development, primarily through the NIH and robust public financing of prescription drug consumption through the federal and state health care programs. Drug manufacturers, rather than seeking to equalize evident price discrimination, agree to other countries demands for low prices.

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and simultaneously fight against the ability for public and private payers in the US to negotiate the best prices for patients. The inflated prices in the US fuel global innovation while foreign health systems get a free ride. This abuse of Americans' generosity, who deserve low-cost pharmaceuticals on the same terms as other developed nations, must end.

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I'm going to get to that. A deal to release the last American hostage in Gaza. Uh, he's got dual citizenship, American and Israeli, and he's coming home. Trump said he thinks today, and then there's this issue of an air force one gift, which he spoke to Trump did when he had a presser this morning at nine 30. We're going to get into all of it.

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Americans will no longer be forced to pay almost three times more for the exact same medications often made in the exact same factories. As the largest purchaser of pharmaceuticals, Americans should get the best deal. And while I need to pore over this thing more closely because it's several pages long, single-spaced, and pretty dense, he's saying that he's addressing Kennedy

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and Medicare, which would be Dr. Oz, to negotiate with the drug company saying, you better give us, you know, like if you're going to, again, just to stay on the Ozempic because it's easy to understand. Okay, you're charging Germans $59 for that drug because this is by Novo Nordisk, which is a company from Denmark.

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Okay, Novo, you're charging Germans $59 for this medication and you're charging Americans $1,000. It's a no. And to start the negotiation with them directly, like we are not going to allow you to pay, to charge that in the United States. And then this thing also says, and if you cannot reach a new agreement, then there's going to be basically a price set by the United States without your buy-in.

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That's what his executive order says. Like, we'll try to work it out with you. If you don't want to strike a deal, we'll just do it. So it's in your interest to strike a deal with us. Again, this will be subject to a legal challenge. Go ahead, Walter.

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It's because they're not poor and developing. They've got plenty of money.

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Yeah, okay, so staying on the weight loss drug because it's just easy to understand. So the defense by big pharma is always, we spend so much money on research and development. You can't start pinching us on the profits because they go not only to just our bottom line, but they are a reward for the billions in R&D that went into developing these drugs. And here's the numbers back to-

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Joining me for the full show today, Walter Kern editor at large for County Highway and co-host of the America This Week podcast. Since President Trump's election, the eyes of the nation have been on Mar-a-Lago and the free state of Florida. It is a thriving, booming place. South Florida is a special place because of its amazing water for boating, swimming, fishing, and drinking.

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That's right. Okay, so here's what they say, that Novo Nordisk, they declined to provide production costs for Ozempic and its weight loss drug counterpart, Wegovi. But the Danish drug maker noted that it spent almost $5 billion on R&D last year and will spend more than $6 billion on a recent deal to boost manufacturing costs. to meet the demand for these drugs.

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So they're crying that they have to manufacture... It's in such demand that they have to pay $6 billion to develop even more of it. No one's crying any tears for you over that. But they're crying about the $5 billion that it took to develop it. However, their profits for 2023 and 2024 equal... No, it's one year.

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One year operating profit, I think it was either 2023 or 2024, was equivalent to 15 billion U.S. dollars, their largest profit since 1989. So they profited in one year. $15 billion largely off of that drug, and they want us to cry and pay $1,000 a month because it cost them $5 billion to develop it.

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It all has to fall on the Americans, and we're supposed to feel sorry for the drug company that's only going to net, what, like $8 billion instead of $15 billion if they charge us a fair price versus everybody else?

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Yes. So here's Dr. Jay Bhattacharya talking about how they're not anti-drug company. You know, they understand it's an important industry in the United States and to the American people. And he runs NIH. Here's what he had to say.

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And that, I think, Walter, is why the pharma stocks went up after Trump's presser. Dr. Bhattacharya explained that and Trump explained it too, which was if these foreign countries continue, that can afford these drugs at a higher level, continue to act like they're paupers and not pay at least the American drug companies a fair price for the drugs, then I don't know what Trump's going to do.

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Well, today, clean water is endangered by toxic algae. Did you know that? It's You may have heard of red tide or blue-green algae. It can be dangerous and it can be gross. In his first term, President Trump signed a law to solve the problem with a new reservoir south of Lake Okeechobee to keep clean, fresh water flowing constantly to South Florida.

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Tear off them? He's going to do something to try to exact a penalty on these Americans countries that have deep pockets, but have been grifting off of us for too long. And that's why I was watching CNBC this morning, something I very rarely do. And the big pharma stocks were down.

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Then Trump held his presser and immediately they all started to climb because I think they heard that there is some measure of comfort being built in there, at least for the American big pharma companies.

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I love that. That is so good. I love analogies. They help me understand. Here's Trump trying to explain the weight loss drug disparity because that one is just so obvious and in a way that only Trump can. Take a listen to SOT1.

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It's so amazing. So here's the other thing. Now, it's going to be very interesting this week to see how this plays out, because this is not one of those things that the sides are going to immediately know, you know, the sides that don't think for themselves how to handle it, right? It's like...

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Normally, it's like, well, the Republicans are against, quote, price controls, which Trump denies that that's what this is. And so they would normally bash somebody in this position. They would definitely bash a Bernie Sanders type, but it's Trump. So what are they going to do? And then the Democrats would normally be in favor of something like Bernie Sanders.

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How will he go over to the White House? Will he say, I applaud him and I applaud this? Or will his TDS win out where like He just can't support this because it was suggested by Trump. And same for the media, right? The media should like this because they're left-leaning. They should want something like this. But not only is it Trump, but they are controlled by Big Pharma.

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That's who's paying all of their million-dollar salaries. Just give you one example. Who could forget Stephen Colbert during the COVID nightmare with this little bit on his show? He's dancing with people dressed like the shot. And tons of little cartoon shots. And a graphic that reads, The Vax, V-A-X, Scene, S-C-E-N-E. And he's dancing like that. Oh, my God. Okay, I've seen enough.

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Big Pharma hasn't said anything yet. They've been quiet all morning. I'm sure they're getting their, you know, next move in line. And I think it's going to be clothing themselves in patriotism. Like, I'm sorry, this is very sad, but it's beyond the president's authority. And we believe in separation of powers. And, you know, he just can't do this.

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We've already obtained a court decision saying this is outside of his, you know, his power. So sadly, we're going to have to sue him again.

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OK, so let's start with this prescription drug thing, because this is huge. Like this one's actually really big. Just as a way of history for those who haven't been following this, Trump in his first term tried to take this on. The fact that big pharma won't negotiate with our government, our government won't negotiate with big pharma to protect us on the prices that we have to pay.

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I think you're right. They definitely learned from Trump point point. Oh, we've seen that on the immigration front and have no reason to doubt it on this front as well. So it'll be really fun over the next coming days to watch where things settle. OK, let's talk about the Trump plane, which is interesting. Now, this one is also. a little complicated.

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If you listen to AM Update, you know about this story because the Kelly Brunt children told you all about it. Let me just explain what that means. For Mother's Day, my three children read my script for AM Update, the morning news headline podcast that we put out on our feed. It's a 15-minute news update to get you started in case you guys have not yet Listen to it. I think you'd enjoy it.

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And I think you'd especially enjoy it today where the three children, Yates, 15, Yardley, 14, and Thatcher, 11, read the news of the day. I edited the script along with my producer, Julia. And then they... tracked it and it was so fun. They, they did it so that I wouldn't have to do it. Although truth be told, I was there for most of their tracking and we had so much fun. It was hilarious.

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Um, and we decided for people who listened to it and loved it because the feedback's been so fun online. Thank you all for commenting that it might be fun to play some of the outtakes, some of the, some of the bloopers, including the moment you will hear it here where a B invaded the studio and

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And there was an errant attempt to kill it while it was still flying, which, you know, never really works out. But take a listen to some of the outtakes here.

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The mayor of Newark arrested amid a clash between ICE officials and Democrat lawmakers, with DHS saying more... Sorry, there's a really big B.

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Jello jackets are the ones that stink you out, Mom. Mom! Get away from me! Oh, my God, it almost landed on me.

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Since being chosen to head the Catholic Church, the Pope calling for peace around the world, saying we are facing the tragedy of a, quote, third war... You can just pick it up with and on all. and on all podcast platforms.

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So they're normal kids. There's some back and forth and they had a couple of stumbles, but not many. My favorite, it didn't make the reel, but it was when my little guy was reading a story about the Pope and said something like... the papal vestments. We redid it and did papal, but he, I'll tell you, they nailed it.

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They understood the pronunciations and I was very proud of them and I appreciated their sweet, one of their Mother's Day gifts. They also gave me a baseball cap that reads Gulf of America. Right on. And a big cozy like Snuggie because I'm always cold. And also a mug that reads astronaut, which they understand I am. And listeners of the show know what I mean.

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So that's a long way of getting into the Trump airplane saga. So Walter Trump has been offered a $400 million 747 by the Qataris. And the thing looks sick. I have to say the pictures online make it look like spectacular. I mean, it's so wide. I'm like, can this thing fly? The living room and it looks like something out of a skyscraper living room, which I guess this is the ultimate skyscraper.

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Yeah, here's some of the pictures. Trump went and took a look at this jet and it was to his liking, apparently, and says, I'd love it. Now, at first, that does sound terrible. that our president will be taking a $400 million gift from the Qataris because there is something under the constitution called the emoluments clause.

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Trump tried to do it and got sued. He tried to do it just with respect to Medicare. He got sued by Big Pharma and he lost because technically it's Congress's job to negotiate these prices. And so it's a question of constitutional authority. So Big Pharma sued saying you don't have the authority as president to do an end around Congress. And they won because of separations of powers.

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And we're not allowed, any official in a position of public trust is not allowed to take a gift. They're really, they're not allowed to. But Pam Bondi has said he can get around that because this isn't a gift to Trump. It's a gift to our Pentagon. And then when the refurbished Air Force Ones that Boeing has been working on for 10 years are finally done 10 years from now.

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This Qatari plane will be gifted to the Trump presidential library. So it's not a gift and an emolument, which is that's when you perform a service for a fee. Sure. That Pambani saying that's not this because he's not performing any service for the Qataris. This is a gift. So and it doesn't and it's not to a person anyway. This is going to be a fight legally. Someone's going to file lawsuits.

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And the Qataris are saying it's not yet settled. Both sides' legal departments are looking into whether this can fly, so to speak. But Trump's bitching about it and today was like pissed because he's like... They're offering a $400 million expense that we would otherwise have to pay. Air Force One is a mess. We have two planes that are Air Force One.

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In my first term, I went to Boeing and said, here are billions of dollars for you to fix these planes, which are 40 years old, Trump says. And not only does Trump win again, multiple years later, and they're still not done, but But again, they are projected to be done no sooner than 2035, which would be 20 years after Trump contracted with Boeing to redo them.

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Now, that's an important addendum that we didn't know yesterday, that he doesn't plan on using it for personal use after he leaves office, which does support the argument that it's a gift to America, not to Trump, per Pam Bondi's logic. And I'll just give you one more, Walter. Here's Trump trying to explain how stupid his critics are on this particular issue, Sat 5B.

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So what do you make of it? Because I should say, sorry, one other thing. I should say a lot of conservative blowback against the president, even from non-Trump derangement syndrome people saying this is not good. We should not be taking gifts from the Qataris who are not the best people.

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Big Pharma doesn't give a shit about separation of powers. Big Pharma wants to charge us a lot of money. But they used the Constitution to shut down Trump's effort in term one. Then comes Joe Biden. OK, so now there was an attempt and this one was successful to make us negotiate on. I think it was first eight and then it was 10 drugs for Medicare only.

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Mm-hmm. Well, we'll see whether anybody actually tries to sue to stop it. I don't know. You know, my own my main concern would be, can we please make sure that there are absolutely no listening devices or other things left on board that plane? Because this is our president, our national security officials in the air like we definitely don't trust Qatar. I mean, we definitely do not. We cannot.

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There should be a massive class action lawsuit against Boeing by the United States people, by the American people, for all the money we've given them to get what? Nothing, according to Trump, and nothing for another 10 years on top of it? This is actually- epic fail. You get tasked by the federal government to refurbish two existing planes and you still can't do it.

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I mean, it's absolutely disgusting. They're apparently way over budget and way behind the deadline. What a shock. Okay, so that's Qatar, gutter, whatever. You guys got it. There is a lot going on though. I mean, we kind of sort of stopped the budding war between India and Pakistan. We kind of, sort of reached a deal with China to stand down on the tariffs. We're bringing home an American hostage.

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So the government could negotiate with Big Pharma on these now 10 drugs. That's it out of the universe of drugs. It's not a lot and it's only under Medicare. And now Trump comes in. And by the way, this has always been more of like a Democrat thing and Republicans have bought. Well, I mean, they've both been in the pocket of big pharma, to be honest.

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That is unbelievable. That was put together by a woman named Whitney Webb on X back in 2021. And welcome back to The Megyn Kelly Show. We're with Walter Kern, editor-at-large of County Highway. That underlines the problem, does it not? They own everyone. Not us, not you. But in media, 99% of media is getting paid by Pfizer. And that's just one of them. That's just one drug company.

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Both sides are totally in the damn pocket of big pharma. And we don't hate big pharma. Big pharma comes up with drugs that can help us, you know, not die. And they come up with miracle drugs like Ozempic, which is helping a lot of very, very obese people get down to much more healthy weights. So it's not to demonize big pharma. But they're also disgusting. They're disgusting in so many ways.

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I'm sure like that and their weight loss drug. And I'm sure there are a lot of other Pfizer drugs that are helpful. It's just they shouldn't own our politicians or our media.

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Mm-hmm, that's exactly right. It's really, it's bad. One other follow-up to our discussion on the fat drug. What do you call it? The fat shot? The fat drug shot?

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The Jason Calacanis, J-Cal- of the All In podcast. He comes on this show and is very funny. He tweeted out in response to that soundbite I played where Trump was like, I talked to my fat friend, an investor. He's made a lot of money about the fat drug. And Jason retweeted it saying, Mr. President, this was a private conversation. Next time, check with me first.

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Yeah. So, by the way, then Debbie Murphy, my producer, told me Jason Calacanis used to be heavy and apparently first became famous-ish for becoming a weight loss blogger. They said that in 2007- In 2007, he was credited with starting an internet trend after he called fat blogging, that he called fat blogging after being fed up with being overweight via the LA Times in 2007.

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If you missed it, you missed a treat. It is still available on all of our podcast feeds and on youtube.com slash Megyn Kelly. More on that in just a bit. It's another day of deals for President Trump. I mean, it's really insane what just happened at the White House. Truly, like what just happened with the prescription drugs is it is earth shattering. We're going to talk about it in just a minute.

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They said about 10,000 people visit his website each day to read his business ideas, Musing on Tech. and pot shots at rival entrepreneurs. Then he pulled an Oprah on his audience and became the guru to a budding movement of fat bloggers. He decided he was fed up. He used to be a spelt 165 pounds and then ballooned to 207 after working night and day at his desk.

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And as he lost the weight, he blogged about it. So it's a funny joke. It wasn't actually him because he's slim now, but very funny. Okay, moving on. The China deal. I do think this is interesting. I don't know whether this is a win or a loss. I haven't understood the tariffs from the moment Trump started them. But I just want to tell the audience this is what he's announcing today.

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He has said that the reciprocal tariff, this is Scott Besson who announced it, the reciprocal tariff on China, where we jacked ours up to 125 and then they jacked theirs up on us to 125 for all goods, is now going to 10%. Beijing is going to cut its retaliatory levies on U.S. goods to 10 percent, too. So we're both going from 125 to 10 percent.

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They're absolute pigs when it comes to exploiting, especially the American consumer. And Anna Kasparian, who's with the Young Turks, she's a Democrat. She's a liberal. She's great. She's very reasonable. She's been on this program a number of times. And this has been one of her main issues. She's the one who first got my attention on it, trying to say, what the F? Why aren't we doing this?

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A separate 20 percent tariff that Trump imposed for China's role in the fentanyl product problem will remain. We're not removing that, and that's good because fentanyl is a scourge on our nation. U.S. said the reductions will last for 90 days while the talks continue. Wall Street Journal pointing out, of course, this tariff rate is still much higher than when Trump took office, where it was 11%.

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And now, if you do 10% plus the 20, it's at 30. But they're saying overall, if you factor in all those sort of increases for this, that, or the other, it's about 39% right now, according to the Citibank team. So it's higher. We're definitely charging more for Chinese goods to come into this country. But Besson says the consensus as the U.S.

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met with China over the weekend was that we will reach a fuller trade agreement that, quote, neither side wants a decoupling. Stocks are surging all over the board now. In response to this, the market's thrilled. And I'll just read you what Charlie Gasparino said. Because I trust him. He does not hate Trump at all and has been defending him on most things.

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He's the business reporter, senior business reporter at Fox. Every major trader slash investor I spoke to today said markets are ripping, not because Trump crafted some great new art of the deal with China on trade. Rather, we're back to square one with the country and kicking the tariff war can down the road.

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That averts stagflation in the short term and maybe longer if we get a deal after 90 days. Yes, markets love trade capitulation. And he went on to say that Trump was really forced to do this. I mean, he went on to say it's like it had to happen. The markets were just too bad. The bond market in particular. There was no way for him to keep this rolling and that Trump promised a lot.

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But the truth is. The bond market in particular responded so negatively to this war with China that we had to wave the white flag and China had to wave for the white flag. And there's a lot of white flag waving that, you know, Trump's going to take credit for. But I think the idea is he created the problem and now he's solving the problem.

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But like, does he get credit for solving the problem he created? Others are saying, no, something had to be done about this and getting the world's attention on this trade imbalance and what China's been doing is a win in and of itself. I don't know. Any thoughts on tariffs?

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Why aren't we, as a government, more protective of our own people? And why are we allowing Big Pharma to charge Americans $1,000 a month for some drugs that the same manufacturers charge people in Denmark $50 a month for? So the same drug, you could be paying $50 for it if you live in Denmark, and you could pay $1,000 for it if you live in the United States. And do we have Anna Cutt?

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Well, can I just say this? Another tweet from Charles said, breaking economists still trying to figure out what concessions on trade China agreed to. He said, I know this sounds sarcastic, but it's true.

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No, that's clear. He goes on to say this. I think that this is another good one from Charlie, and it makes some sense to me. This is from this morning. Breaking, in talking to sources who run small businesses, the pause with China came just as their companies, I think he's talking about American companies, were on the precipice of disaster.

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since they sourced so much of their material from China and the containers coming from China were coming back empty. If you want to know why we were as desperate for a deal as the Chinese, it's because small businesses, a key MAGA constituency, was about to get crushed. So I guess, you know, time will tell whether this was a good idea or a bad idea.

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But a reset seemed in order because the trade disparities were pretty severe between us and many other countries. And I know we're not supposed to care. It's not supposed to be a thing. But the other thing is, if Trump really wanted to use tariffs to raise money, which was one of the debates, is he just doing this to raise money? Or does he actually want to fix trade disparities?

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I'd like to see the receipts on it. Right. Have we? Trump keeps saying that we've earned all sorts of money. We've made all sorts of money on these. I'd love to see the accounting on it.

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Okay. So let's keep going. Um, there was this big skirmish over the weekend in Newark at an ice facility, uh, where federal officials arrested Roz Bakara, the democratic mayor of Newark and a candidate for governor in New Jersey after a confrontation that also involved three members of Congress, um, at a new immigration detention facility in Newark. They went there.

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They say we were just innocently there. We just wanted to take a look at the facility. That's part of our oversight responsibilities. And it resulted in ICE officials trying to stop them. A confrontation ensued. You can see them getting aggressive. And I mean, what looks like I don't know. It looks like pretty aggressive behavior by the lawmakers.

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They say it was aggressive behavior by the ICE officers. In any event, now the Democratic mayor of Newark has been arrested and Democrats are freaking out, including AOC, who came out and spoke to this today. I think we have the AOC sought, do we?

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She was going off on this. Okay, in any event, she was showing the bullet points in particular on Ozempic. And I realize that's a very popular drug, but you could do this with a lot of other drugs where you go around the world. And we, the suckers in America, are subsidizing the world's cheap use of these drugs. And it's bullshit. She played a soundbite of Bernie Sanders.

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Okay, then we do because they were forced to lay a finger on them because they behaved like brutes. Let me show you, this is released by DHS, Representative LaMonica McIver. You can almost see AOC almost list her name and then stop herself. Because the video of this woman does not reflect some sweet, peaceful little congressional overseer there just to take a look at things and not cause problems.

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Here she is in this video making physical contact with ICE officers in a scrum after the mayor's arrest on Friday, Saturday. She's in red. Look at her shoving, shoving forward through an ICE agent. She's bothering that ice agent, not the other way around. Look, she's shoving. She's actually like almost punching. Look at that. Shoved another police officer. That's assault.

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She too should be in jail. So much for AOC's warnings and protestations about who the real offender is here, Walter.

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Actual. Yeah. Your comment about don't wear red to the protest if you don't want to be seen reminded me of one of my favorite moments on Twitter ever, where it was one of those situations where two people committed a crime and then one called the other and got them on tape admitting the crime. And the piece of advice was, you know.

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Pro tip, when you have committed a crime with another person and that person calls you up after the fact and tries to go over every detail of the crime you committed together, the only proper response is, no, that is not a thing. That's it. You know exactly what's happening. That is not a thing. Do not wear the cardinal red to the protest unless you wish to be caught on camera.

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And as you know, Bernie and Trump kind of are at the horseshoe ends of the same ideological spectrum. You know, Trump got there from the right. Bernie got there from the left. And they wound up kind of close to each other on a number of issues. And the crossover amongst fans is kind of interesting with those two.

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And here's more of Representative LaMonica McIver, Democrat of New Jersey, verbally berating the ICE agents on the scene.

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He assaulted me. I'm filing a complaint. You don't get to talk to a congresswoman like that. And you're not going to put your hands on me? You will, guys. You know that's true.

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So there she plays the victim. You have the nerve to put your hands on me after the video we just saw where she was actually physically touching and pushing and assaulting. It's right there on the videotape, multiple ice agents and law enforcement agents. There's more video of it. We'll show you here. Uh, this is video one.

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This is released by DHS appearing to show her making physical contact with more ice officers in the scrum. Um, there's a lot of this. This woman's going to be in a lot of trouble. She's physically, obviously, this is assault. This is legal assault.

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And yet to read the mainstream media coverage of this, of course, would have you think it's just the mean, evil ICE agents who assaulted these poor, sweet members of Congress who are just going there to look over what was obviously an inappropriate and disgusting ICE facility because we don't care about migrants.

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Ultimately, they were allowed in and their tour resulted in them saying, oh, it's actually really clean and nice in there. Even they, even these loons had to admit it. So I think we're going to get a lot more of these. Do you not?

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She played this Bernie soundbite where he was asked, because he's been pushing for the ability for us to negotiate on drug costs for a while, where he was asked by an MSNBC anchor about it. Watch.

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for ICE comes out, for DHS, I should say, comes out and says that there will be more arrests, which I would expect. I think that woman we've been looking at, Ms. LaMonica McIver, is probably going to get the cuff slapped on her soon.

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And the Democrats are going to treat it like they treated the arrest of that one judge in the Midwest who escorted the illegal right out of her courtroom after she threw ICE out. You know, like the Democrat behaves badly, even unlawfully, and then faces the natural consequences of that behavior. And then they cry victim. Oh, boo hoo, poor me.

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The mean, mean ICE agents, the mean, mean Republicans, the mean, mean Trump administration. So I think the public's kind of used to this. They're getting used to this behavior. I don't know how many dividends this is going to pay.

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Yeah, it's a it's a bit rich. And speaking of people who continue to play the victim, even though they're not, here is today's Daily Dose of Michelle Obama, who has been out there trying to promote her terrible podcast that has absolutely no fan following. And And she decides, everything she says and does is a complaint. Everything.

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And so she winds up talking to Tina Knowles, also better known as Beyonce's mother, about marriage and divorce, which is Michelle's Favorite topic, one of them at least, number one is how much she hates her time as first lady. She hated it. And number two, I mean, because you could go either way, how racist the country is and how much she can't stand it.

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And then we're coming in, at least in the top three, is her negative comments about her husband and her marriage. Here she is talking with Tina Knowles about number three, sort of.

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Okay. So she's going right in like independence is what it's about. Of course, you know, you had a shitty marriage. I can totally relate. And then can I just show you one more? Um, look at SOT 23. No, no, no, no. I'm sorry. It's the VO, VO six, where the two of them get up and they start dancing. And this is part of the Michelle Obama attempted reinvention of

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I'm sorry, but I'm not impressed to make herself into something cool. Here she is again, make herself into something cool. Walter that like we can relate to. She's a cool girl because she was first lady and that she can get up there and dance with Beyonce's mom. I'm sorry, but all I can think is you hate the country. You hate your husband and a couple of lame steps to the left steps to the right.

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I don't think she's going to win. I think Trump will win that one, too.

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Yes. Yes. All her whining. Here she is again. This this woman, Tina Knowles. Okay, I don't know what she's done in her own right. I'm sure she's accomplished some things. But being Beyonce's mother is interesting. So, of course, a good interviewer would make it all about that, frankly. But Michelle, typical, makes it all about one other thing. Michelle, here is an example.

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Okay. And by the way, like she dials up her like accent, you know, her street accent. I told everybody everything. She doesn't talk like that.

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Well, every comment, I mean, truly this audience knows we've been watching them about marriage, about Barack, about relationships is comes from a dark place. You can tell this woman is got a lot of issues. She's bitter, bitter about being his wife, about the career. I guess she never had, by the way, she was only first lady for eight years. You can go have a legal career.

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I could resume my legal practice tomorrow. I'd have to fire up, back up my bar licenses. I'd be fine. You'd have to take some continuing legal education to get there. You can do it. Stop bitching and moaning about it. Fucking do it. Stop. Instead, she wants to be loved in the podcast lane. She's failing and she's getting progressively more bitter. Here she is. Listen here.

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Talking about, oh, now it's everyone's problem. It's not just her problem in her relationship. It's what we do to girls. You see, we're sending the wrong messages to girls. Watch 23.

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It's definitely not for Michelle Obama. It's basically an F the patriarchy segment saying because there's a Ken doll, we're socializing little girls to think they're not whole without a man, which is insane. And by the way, most of us think prizing the institution of marriage and finding a life partner is something that's a laudable goal that actually works. will make your life happier, Michelle.

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And it doesn't have to come at the expense of a woman's independence. Only you think that.

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Okay. And here's just to put some more meat on those bones, Walter. Uh, she was showing a map that she, that was from the MSNBC segment with Bernie on this, just for the example, Ozempic. Um, That costs about $1,000 per month in the United States before insurance. In Canada, it goes for $147. $59 in Germany. $96 in Sweden. $103 in the Netherlands. $144 in Switzerland. $83 in France.

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it's just, she's so clueless. And again, she's not nearly as self-aware as I thought she was. She's one of those people who was much better off when she was behind the veil, when she's still, she's benefiting from this over the top favorable media coverage of her as the second coming. And now that she's insisting, we get to know her better. Her approval ratings, I guarantee you, are falling.

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And she has absolutely no fan base. And she's learning the hard way that, yeah, the real Michelle is actually not as, quote, becoming as the image of Michelle Obama that a fortune was spent on cultivating.

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No, it's like she can read a speech. That's what she can do. She can read a speech. Well, that's written for her by someone else. And that's really, it seems like the alpha and omega of Michelle Obama's public talents. All right.

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We're going to take a quick break and then we're going to come back and I am going to prove to you, Walter Kern and to this audience, how I was right about Holly Berry, who's back at the weird sex stuff. Yes, we need to discuss this with Walter. Don't go away. This spring, everyone has a lot going on.

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I told this audience a couple of weeks ago, I guess it was last week after the Met Gala, that Holly Berry had another entertainer say about her that she's bad in bed, that this woman had been told by one of Holly Berry's ex-boyfriends that she's bad and boring in bed. Now, negative things get said in public life, and nine times out of 10, you just ignore them.

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Holly Berry felt the need to respond to that by saying at the time, like, oh, just ask my man if you don't think I'm good. I was like, what? Who would do that? And then provide references, you know, like, sure, ask my current man whether I'm boring in bed. All right. And then ever since then, I'm telling you, I've watched it happen. she's gotten more and more inappropriate in her public behavior.

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Like more and more weird sex kitten photos, nude photos, sex posts. I think Holly Berry has truly been on a downward spiral since that moment to like prove to us just what a sex kitten she is. And I said this, the audience knows I said this after the Met Gala last week. And what do I wake up to today? But this weird video that Holly Berry posts from

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her bed in conference with her boyfriend, Van Hunt, advertising her Let's Spin intimacy gel in travel size. For the listening audience, they're in bed, apparently naked. Listen in.

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Oh, my God. She looks like she's on drugs with that weird laughter. She looks very bizarre. Who celebrates Mother's Day by talking about how to lube up their vag with their boyfriend in bed from con? This is so bizarre, Walter.

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Oh no, we lost Walter in a critical moment. What happened? Holly Berry boomed into the podcast and cut him off. He froze. What's number two? We have to know. We've got to get Walter reestablished. We all need to know what number two is. What? What, Steve? Yes, we have to, we have to, we have to get him. Wait, do we have to take a break? Can I just, I'll, I'll move on to something. Yeah.

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I'm going to work on something else, a different subject while you work to reestablish Walter, since we all have to know what number two is on Holly Berry. Let's hope it's her vag was number one. We don't know what number two is, but we're going, we're going to find out. We're looking forward to that. Okay.

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Before we, before we go back, uh, I want to point to, let's see, there's a bunch of things here. Dylan Mulvaney, uh, has partnered with Versace to be, I guess, a new spokesmodel. Take a look at Dylan in his Instagram post from last week, SOT29.

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There he is, again, cosplaying being a woman with an enormous fake boob. He's obviously had breast implants, which is new, I think. And he's wearing a Versace dress because he's celebrating the fact that he has been, I guess, hired by Versace to endorse Versace's clothing. And he's wearing last season's dress. I just want you to know that.

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It's a dress that was brought to me back in the fall for me to possibly wear to the Al Smith dinner, but I rejected it. And it's addressed that Melania Trump wore on New Year's Eve as only Melania Trump could and actually did look spectacular in it. Here she is. I mean, we should really do a who wore it best kind of side by side with Melania Trump.

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We're not going to be the world's piggy bank where they make all their money in the United States and then sell it cheaply to everybody else. And that he says this could save people up to 80% on their drug costs and Number one, there's likely to be another lawsuit by Big Pharma saying this is an inappropriate end around Congress.

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As one of my followers on Twitter put it, not just a woman, but the woman versus Dylann Mulvaney. And what another colossal blunder for Versace, whose brand is already hemorrhaging. They've already kind of gone down. They're already kind of known as more of like a, it's not one of the top couture brands anymore. It used to be, but because of asinine moves like this, they've suffered.

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And I'll be really surprised if I ever see Melania Trump wear Versace again. You had literally one of the most beautiful women in the world wear your dress. And you decided to counter that by putting a man who poses as a woman and gets off on diminishing women by acting like a four-year-old as he claims he is one, wear the same dress. It's a fail. Still working on Walter.

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Then I wanted to get to this from Chelsea Handler, who seems like an absolutely disgusting person talking very casually about her many abortions. Take a listen to her on the Burnouts podcast from May from May.

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Also, a sort of trade deal with China. We're going to pause the retaliatory tariffs on one another for 90 days while we work it out. But it seems like they have the framework for a deal. And, you know, people like Charles Gasparino, who's been defensive of President Trump saying, look, he had to do this because of the bond markets, because of what was happening.

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Thank God my parents encouraged me to have my multiple abortions while I was in high school. Where were those parents encouraging you not to have premarital sex or sex as a teenager or unprotected sex or irresponsible sex and understand that you were making a very serious choice in doing so? Where were your parents then?

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You might be, instead of thanking God for those parents, on your hands and knees praying to God to try to help you see the way because you've clearly been raised by people who are errant in their parental responsibilities. I don't care whether you're pro-choice or you're not. Every sane parent says to their child, please don't do this.

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And if you are going to do this and you're going to go your own way, for the love of God, please use protection. Use multiple forms of protection. Here are the weaknesses of the protection that are available so you know exactly what you're getting into. And please, God forbid, if anything happens, you bring it to me and we can help find our way through it.

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I'm disgusted by her and I'm disgusted by her parents. Back to Walter, thank God. What is number two that we need to know about the Holly Berry segment?

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And number two, it'll be really interesting to see how the Democrats react to Donald Trump pushing this kind of Bernie blessed program when it comes to pharmaceuticals. There you go. You take it, Walter.

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That is so true. That's like Andrew Schultz, who's so funny, crass, but in a great way. Who's like, all you women, they're so worried about like this noise or this, you know, sort of fat, whatever. We don't care. We don't care. We don't care about any of it. Just as long as you're willing, we're cool.

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Then suddenly he's feeling the same about you. You don't have to humiliate yourself and diminish your brand. And as Walter points out correctly, you're sending exactly the opposite message of the one you intend to convey about like, see how sexy I am. I'm in bed. No one would actually do that. No one actually has to do that.

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Who actually believes that they have sex appeal, like bring the lover in the bed and have him keep commenting about how he can't wait to get on me. It's so classless and gross. And yes, she looks terrible.

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Mm hmm. Yes. So it's what's been happening in Congress is they're bought and paid for. I mean, that's really the bottom line. Big Pharma, as the audience knows and experienced firsthand during covid with Pfizer, is it owns the U.S. Congress. They make tons of money and then they buy congressmen and women so that they won't do anything to change the piggy bank system. And they don't.

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There's just a trade war with China is not winnable, is what he was saying, given the our economic status right now, our debt and how much we need to service it and so on. And so his take on why we have this pause with China was we had to. That smart people went to Trump and said, you've got to stop this. The United States economy cannot handle it. We need them as badly as they need us.

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Yeah. Yeah. So so Bernie is there. You know, he's in Congress, obviously, is a sitting U.S. senator. But good luck convincing your fellow congressmen to actually do this once and for all.

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And that's the reason why Trump tried to do an end around the do nothing Congress, because he's he isn't bought and paid for by Big Pharma, but failed because the court said, sorry, sir, this is not within your remit. But today, Trump spoke to that. At the end, he had a presser at 9.30 talking about this and the Chinese deal.

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And it was at this presser that he signed the executive order, and he had his health team with him, Jay Bhattacharya of NIH, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. of HHS, Mehmet Oz of Medicare. Obviously, he's going to be involved in this, too. And I think Marty McCary was there of FDA. So Trump got up there and said— Basically, I dare you, I dare you now, Democrats in Congress, to defy me on this.

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So Trump seems pretty clear, I'm sure he's been told. You tried this in Trump 1.0 and you got sued successfully as you don't have this executive power. Because once again, he's using executive power, which is probably going to get stopped by a court just as soon as Big Pharma files a lawsuit. But Trump's already baking that in saying,

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I dare the Democrats in Congress to not pass this in the big beautiful bill that they're working on right now, the big money bill that's gonna raise taxes or lower taxes or whatever, they're working it out.

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Because he said, how are you gonna look at your constituents and say, you finally had the chance in legislation that would have Republican support in the Congress and the support of the sitting president ready to sign it

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to finally give the government this power to negotiate on the drug prices, and you refused to do it, which is very clever to put this in the big, beautiful bill and frame it that way.

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I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and our special series, Megyn Kelly Investigates. This is on the disappearance of baby Lisa. Over the next five days, we will bring you deep into a story that captivated and horrified America, including yours truly. It has stuck with me since I first covered it at Fox News. 13 years later, it is a case that has never been solved.

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So why were the police saying that? Were they just making that up? I think they didn't have a better suspect.

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The investigative team you will know from this show, Bill Stanton, former NYPD, and Phil Houston, former CIA, known as the human lie detector, that will be put to the test, that moniker, in later episodes of this series.

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And the polygraph? According to one of Deborah's attorneys, Deborah had, in fact, passed it.

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Jeremy's sister, Ashley Irwin, thought the writing was on the wall and said so in an interview with ABC News.

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But I started interviewing all the key players again, and I got to some critical new ones, some of whom have never before been interviewed by anybody other than law enforcement in connection with this case. We tried and may have gotten to the truth of what happened here. We uncovered quite a bit. See for yourselves. Here's episode one.

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yeah kind of we're not captain steve young of the kansas city police department you know we're under pressure to find a child we're not under pressure to pin this on anybody or wrap it up or make an arrest even so the pressure on deborah was intense oh she was just a mess cindy laurette remembers the stress of it she was staying with the family to help out she just didn't know which way was up or down or and she would just cry and she would

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And now we can introduce you to one of the most intriguing players in this whole story. Christy Schiller is a Houston horse breeder, socialite, one-time Playboy model, and a broadcaster. What was the first you heard about the Lisa Irwin case?

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Then Christy got a call from a family friend, Debra's cousin, Mike Lorette.

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Christy had her own theories. She had spent that summer glued to the trial of Casey Anthony, a mother accused of murdering her three-year-old daughter.

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Sure that Deborah was caught in this backlash, Christie swung into action, tapping into the brain trust of police and legal professionals that she met through her charity, Canines for Cops, created in tribute to a police dog killed in the line of duty. She called Bill Stanton, a former New York City police officer, private investigator, and TV commentator who was on her canine board.

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Bill assembled a team that included Phil Houston, CIA veteran of 25 years. Phil created the deception detection method, still being used by the CIA, the FBI, the Secret Service, and law enforcement agencies around the nation. He is known as the human lie detector. Former Secret Service psychologist Marissa Randazzo was also part of the team.

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First order of business, they needed to determine what, if any, involvement Deborah may have had. By this point, the baby's father, Jeremy, had essentially been ruled out because there's security video of him working on an electrical project at Starbucks through most of the night baby Lisa went missing. Christy's team began to plan their own videotaped interviews with the parents.

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Marissa worked with Phil on the questions for Deborah and Jeremy.

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Now there was a plane waiting, thanks to Christy Schiller. Bill and Phil headed to Kansas City. Once in the Kansas City area, in a rented house at a secret location away from the throngs of media, Phil and an associate interviewed Debra. Phil Houston had seen their press conferences and how they answered questions. Like so many of us, he already had his suspicions about the couple.

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We have it on tape, that moment where you got to ask your first question of Deborah. Let's watch it.

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In a twist even he didn't see coming, Phil determined Deborah is telling the truth, that she had nothing to do with her daughter's disappearance. Well, I mean, I, like you, flew out there thinking they did it. It's always the parents. When the wife gets killed, it's always the husband. We all know this. And I remember being flabbergasted.

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I just couldn't believe, like, what do you mean challenged all my own biases? But I think led to better reporting on my part in covering the case, right? Just check your bias. You could be wrong. Have some humility. There are people smarter than you are at detecting deception who say she's not lying and neither is Jeremy.

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Armed with this knowledge, Christy Schiller anonymously offers a $100,000 reward for information leading to the return of baby Lisa. Bill Stanton made the announcement.

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Until now, no one knew it was Christy who offered the reward, a secret she managed to keep even from her own husband.

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Announcing the $100,000 reward was just one way Stanton kept the baby Lisa story in the news. But Bill had a problem.

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And I was thinking, sure, yes, I'm interested in this story at any level. But of course, what I would ultimately like is to talk to the parents. And that's where it landed. And, you know, explosive details came out that day. You know, it had its highs and lows for Deborah because that's when the public learned she had between six and ten drinks. Do you have a drinking problem? No.

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I don't think so. Some folks are going to have an issue with you having more than five drinks while you're looking after a little baby and two little boys. She was sleeping.

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That was always one of the biggest mysteries about this case. What kind of criminal, whether it's a parent, a family member, or an intruder, is so good that they don't leave behind a fingerprint, DNA, or any other really meaningful clue? Because no matter who did this, they did escape without a trace. Reporter Jim Spellman.

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There's so much we don't know about the evidence because Kansas City PD won't talk to us. They say that's because this is still an open investigation. We have our doubts about how much investigating is really going on, and for that matter, about how they handled this case. Now I'm joined by Phil Houston and Bill Stanton.

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They will be my partners in crime on this, my go-to criminal experts as we take a hard look at the facts of this case. looking back now, 12 years later, is there's no Nest cameras in every door. There's no even low-grade security cameras. Every gas station now has a good camera that will show you most of what happened there.

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In today's day and age, they'd be able to zero right in on whoever that was that emerged. And what a difference a decade makes.

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The police really do seem to be guilty of some tunnel vision here. I mean, what we're learning already is that they're really interested, Phil, in Debra and Jeremy. And in the opening hours of an investigation, one can completely understand that.

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And then you have Deborah admitting to excessive drinking, you know, to the point of possibly blacking out. And you have cops. saying that the parents stopped cooperating, which, you know, that leads everybody to be like, oh, that's it, they're guilty. She was done being interrogated over and over and over and over by police she definitely accurately believed had a foregone conclusion about her.

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Plus just the odds, the overwhelming odds, you know, are she did it. That's the biggest obstacle to ruling her out. But let's spend a moment ruling her in. How does that look? What evidence does point to Debra?

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On that theory, she would also have to get out of the house and dispose of the remains and then get back into the bed before Jeremy gets home and sees her at what he said was sleeping. And he believed, and you know, and you're the spouse, you can tell when your spouse is legit asleep and when they're not, but keep going.

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10-month-old baby Lisa Irwin disappeared in the middle of the night. Father Jeremy came home from his night shift at 3.45 a.m. and found the lights were on. A window was open, the screen pushed in, the front door unlocked, and his baby girl was not in her crib. Must be a reasonable explanation, he thought. His first instinct? Don't panic.

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when every new mother knows they know you don't take your baby in your bed with her with you like it's very dangerous you can smother your baby inadvertently but some do it anyway i mean some don't know and then some do know but they take the risk anyway because they're exhausted and the child's crying a lot and they just make a mistake they fall asleep there and one thing leads to one other terrible thing but the fact that she had her two boys in the bed with her actually

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No, she's not a sociopath. And she continues to talk to us, even though, you know, you guys know I've had many a very tough segment on Deborah on my various shows. I just feel like the actual murderer would not keep putting themselves in this harm's way. Can we talk about the next door neighbor, Samantha Brando, for a minute? Because while we have been unable to reach her,

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You guys did talk to her. You also put her through the Phil Houston treatment to find out whether it was true, what, that she was sitting with Deborah, that they were drinking together, that things went down the way Deborah said they did?

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Well, that could explain why Debra didn't hear an intruder for sure.

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That's true. So why didn't anyone ever come forward? If somebody stole this baby and did something with her, there's not one person who needed $100,000 enough to come forward and quietly say, I know what happened to her.

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That would explain it if it were a sole actor who then kept his mouth shut. But that's one of the troubling things about this whole thing. Like if it was anybody who blabbed or if it were a group, somebody would have turned on somebody else and that just hasn't happened. So as it stands at this point, all eyes are on Debra. Debra.

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Coming up in our next episode, police continue to bear down on Debra. If she didn't do it, who did? What else was going on in the neighborhood that night? But first, if you're watching right now, please take a look at this picture of Lisa as she might look now. If you're listening, you can see the photo on YouTube or just go to megankelly.com.

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If you see her or think you might have any information that can help find her, please write to me. The address is Megan, M-E-G-Y-N, at megankelly.com. You can also pass along tips on the Baby Lisa story to the Kansas City Police Department or encourage them to get active on this case. That would be very helpful.

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He woke up the baby's mother, his partner, Deborah Bradley, out of a sound sleep. She appeared to have no idea why baby Lisa was not in her crib. Jeremy ran next door to see if somehow the neighbor had the baby. Then he called 911. Jeremy and Debra immediately went public, begging for help.

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It is about the mystery of baby Lisa Irwin, a beautiful, healthy baby girl who vanished in the middle of the night, never to be found, right out of her crib. I want to start with why we're bringing you this, all right?

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Deborah Bradley was just 25 then. She's 38 now. Your case is so unique because it became a huge national news story. And you now have old interviews of yourself and press conferences. You know, when you look back on that, what do you think? I think I can't believe I survived. And though so much time has passed, what happened to Lisa that night remains a mystery.

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News of Lisa's disappearance traveled fast. Search crews combed the neighborhood, police dogs were deployed, and the media descended on North Lister Avenue.

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A classic crescent-shaped suburban street just north of the Missouri River. Deborah's aunt, Cindy Lorette, still chokes up remembering that terrible day back in 2011.

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What were your first impressions of the story and the scene? Jim Spellman was there from the start, reporting the story for CNN and its sister channel, Headline News.

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As you're going to see throughout this episode and the four that come after it, I covered my story this self, as I mentioned, as it happened back in 2011 and then in the many years thereafter.

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In those critical early hours and days, Kansas City police, the FBI, the ATF, and a group of local volunteers searched the area. They did not find Lisa or any hard evidence. Within a week, a timeline of the day began to emerge. 2.30 p.m., Deborah's dad comes by with her brother, Philip Nutz. 4.45 p.m., Deborah and Philip go by Baby Formula and Boxed Wine. They're seen on store security video.

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Around 5 o'clock p.m., next door neighbor Samantha Brando drops by. 5.15 p.m. Jeremy, an electrician, gets a call from his boss and soon leaves to work at a Starbucks, unaware of the chaos and tragedy about to unfold just hours later. 6.00 p.m. Deborah makes dinner for Samantha, Sam's daughter, as well as Lisa and her two half-brothers, five-year-old Michael and seven-year-old Blake. 6.30 p.m.

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Deborah puts Lisa to bed. By 7 p.m., Samantha's daughter and Deborah's boys are inside playing. Baby Lisa is supposed to be in her crib asleep. Both moms sit on the front steps smoking, talking, and drinking. Between 8 and 10 p.m., Shane Beegley, a 33-year-old landscaper who was the grandson of a neighbor, stops by the stoop for a visit.

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Sometime around 10.30 to 11 p.m., Deborah said, she checked on baby Lisa, then went down the hall and got in bed with the two boys. Before bed, Deborah leaves three cell phones on the kitchen counter, two with restricted use because of nonpayment. It is believed only one worked normally. They all end up missing. 10.30 p.m. Samantha Brando is back home.

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I remember at the time I first got sent to Kansas City, Missouri, I had my own baby girl in a crib at home and just couldn't fathom what it would be like to go in to check on her in the middle of the night or go get her in the morning and see an empty crib. Speaking to her parents at the time was a before and after moment for me. It was shocking for the reasons that you will hear in this series.

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She reportedly later said that she noticed the lights were turned off at Deborah and Jeremy's house. Some leads quickly emerged with possible sightings of a kidnapper. The next morning, seven-year-old Blake tells police he heard noises during the night. Also the next morning, the Parscals, who lived around the corner, told police what they had seen.

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Husband Onesto was leaving for his overnight shift and wife Lisa was awake and inside. Once again, reporter Jim Spellman.

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What time of night did she say she saw the man with the baby?

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Callahan Walsh of the Center for Missing and Exploited Children.

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Was Lisa the baby in the man's arms? More suspicious things happen in those early hours. 2.30 a.m. There's a dumpster fire in a parking lot not too far from the Parscals' house. Could this be related? At 2.45 a.m., a nearby BP gas station surveillance camera shows a man in a light t-shirt emerging from the woods that bordered the neighborhood.

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It's too dark and grainy to see if he's carrying anything. And then, as I reported for Fox News at the time, Deborah's first account of her timeline gets a serious revision. Turns out she was drinking more than she originally claimed, and she's no longer sure about when she last saw her baby girl. When you went in at 10.30 after the neighbor left, what did you do? Probably went right to my room.

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Let's talk about the wine. How much did you consume that day?

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Probably. More than ten? No. Was it just wine or was there other alcohol?

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So the last time Debra is sure she saw Lisa was at 6.30 p.m., before she started drinking. Could something have happened accidentally? Maybe Lisa fell or was dropped, or Debra unknowingly rolled over on her while they slept. Or worse, did she deliberately kill her own child? At the very least, Debra is drunk and unreliable. It was a tough interview. I went pretty hard on you. Very difficult.

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You fessed up. You said, I had a lot of drinks that night, someplace between 6 and 10, and I think I blacked out. Now, a lot of people wouldn't have admitted that. A lot of people would not have sat down with the press and said that at all. They would have been worried that it would have made them look some certain way. I didn't care how I looked.

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And the case has never been solved. This is not a series where at the end, we're going to say this person was arrested, but you are going to have some theories. So a couple of years ago, I began reporting this story anew.

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Knowing her timeline was problematic and wanting to prove to police she had nothing to hide, Deborah volunteered to take a polygraph. And then she took police remarks to mean she had failed it.

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Exhausted and emotional, Deborah and Jeremy decide they have shared everything they can think of to help the investigation and need a break. But Kansas City Police publicly criticized the couple for not continuing to talk to them.

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I decided, since we launched The Megyn Kelly Show, to take this on with my own resources and to devote countless hours to figuring out what happened to this baby with the help of some producers and very talented investigators.

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Despite the sighting of the man with the baby, one week into the case, police seemed to have only one suspect, her mother. ABC News legal correspondent Dan Abrams asked Jeremy the question on everyone's mind. Could Deborah have done something accidentally?

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That's Marissa Randazzo, the former chief research psychologist at the U.S. Secret Service. She would soon be tapped to work on this case.

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And so did I. And so did lots of people. But when Kansas City attorney Sean O'Brien started working with Deborah and Jeremy, he quickly realized no one was getting the whole story.

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Join me back here all week for our special series, Megyn Kelly Investigates on the Disappearance of Baby Lisa Irwin, a 10-month-old little girl who disappeared from her crib in the middle of the night. You can watch it here, Sirius XM Triumph Channel, 111 at noon east, on youtube.com slash Megyn Kelly, and on all podcast platforms.

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Beekeepers Naturals products are also available at Target, Whole Foods, Walmart, CVS, and Walgreens. The possibility of a government shutdown looming large over lawmakers in Washington. The deadline, 1159 p.m. this Friday evening. Republicans looking to kick the can down the road to September, buying time to negotiate what they hope will be generational entitlement reform.

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Democrats gear up for a shutdown showdown in the Senate as the House's most fiscally conservative members get on board with a continuing resolution.

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The kind last seen in the 1990s under House Speaker Newt Gingrich and President Bill Clinton. Ultimately, House Republicans are attempting to cut $880 billion out of the budget. Realistically, cuts that large would require reductions to Medicaid funding. Some Republicans, like Senator John Kennedy of Louisiana, point out the program has grown well beyond what was intended.

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Taxpayers now foot the bill for some 15 million able-bodied adults without children or a job. Republicans are looking to push this fight to September, where it will be handled through a process known as reconciliation that can be passed without Democrat support. This week, the mission is passing ACR, continuing resolution.

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House Speaker Mike Johnson will likely bring the bill to the floor tomorrow. The bill is 99 pages small in terms of government funding. It calls for increasing defense spending by about $6 billion. with cuts in non-defense spending of approximately $13 billion. It also contains an increase in ICE funding and maintains a freeze on $20 billion in special IRS funding.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Monday, March 10th, 2025, and this is your AM Update.

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Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid all remain the same for now. Many of the cuts will come from canceling earmarks, funds set aside by lawmakers for specific projects. One example, cutting $17.5 million in funding for improvements to a Kansas museum honoring former Republican President Dwight Eisenhower.

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On Saturday afternoon, President Trump posting on Truth Social, quote, "'All Republicans should vote, please. Yes, next week. Great things are coming for America, and I am asking you all to give us a few months to get us through to September so we can continue to put the country's financial house in order.'"

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The president going on to say Democrats will do anything to shut down the government and Republicans must remain united. Kentucky Congressman Thomas Massey has already indicated he will vote against the bill, and that means Republicans can only afford to lose one vote in order to pass the CR.

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President Trump denies a New York Times report suggesting tensions between Elon Musk and Secretary of State Marco Rubio. Investigators reveal what likely happened in the mysterious death of actor Gene Hackman and his wife. And President Trump pulls $400 million in funding for Columbia University following rabid anti-Israel protests on campus. All that and more coming up on your AM Update.

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Typically, the most fiscally conservative members of Congress are the ones who are the hardest to convince to pass a CR. Last year, Florida Congressman Matt Gaetz used the prospect of a CR to oust House Speaker Kevin McCarthy. This time around, those fiscal hawks are signaling their support.

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House Freedom Caucus Chairman Maryland's Andy Harris telling the New York Post if Republicans are forced to gain Democrat support to fund the government, quote, it will cost us tens of billions of dollars. Democrats in both chambers are against the CR.

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Democrats say the bill creates a slush fund for the Trump administration to pick winners and losers. If House Republicans minus Mr. Massey remain united, then House Democrats do not have much recourse. On the Senate side, seven Democrats would have to vote with Republicans to keep the lights on. They are not expected to do that. Speaker Johnson telling Fox News what Democrats are demanding.

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Speaker Johnson referring to the Doge team's efforts to slash funding across government, reducing its total size. A recent CBS YouGov poll shows 54% of Americans believe Elon Musk and Doge should have at least some influence over government spending. The same poll showing President Trump's approval rating is at 48%, whereas the Democrat leaders are trailing by double digits.

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House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries is at 30% approval. Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer is at 28%. Friday report from the New York Times generating quite a bit of media buzz.

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The media typically giddy at the prospect of cracks within the Trump administration. The Times article is based on interviews with five people, quote, with knowledge of the events, end quote, meaning these are not necessarily firsthand sources. The report describes Elon Musk as letting Mr. Rubio have it.

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Mr. Musk allegedly accusing Secretary Rubio of not firing enough people from the State Department. Mr. Rubio, in turn, reportedly saying Mr. Musk was not being truthful, citing the 1,500 employees who accepted the early retirement buyout. Eventually, reports The Times, President Trump sided with Secretary Rubio and said everyone just needs to work together.

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President Trump asked about the report on Friday, responding, No clash.

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Mr. Trump following up on Truth Social, posting in all caps, Elon and Marco have a great relationship. Any statement other than that is fake news. State Department spokeswoman Tammy Bruce telling The Times, Secretary Rubio considered the meeting an open and productive discussion. Secretary Rubio has yet to publicly comment directly on that report.

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Coming up, authorities determine the cause of death in the mysterious case of Gene Hackman and his wife. The feds slash 400 million bucks from Columbia University for failing to protect Jewish students. All that and more in just a moment. four years of crushing interest rates, runaway inflation, and reckless government spending, and who is paying the price? You are.

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Here's one way to clean up your medicine cabinet this season and replace toxin-filled conventional products with more natural options. Propolis Immune Support Throat Spray and Propolis Plus Vitamin C Liposomol can be must-haves in the medicine cabinet as seasonal germs start to hit. Did you know germs can enter through your nasal passages just as easily as through your mouth?

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You might have bills stacking up. You might have debt collectors on your back. You might barely be able to keep food on the table, and that's stressful. Done with debt can be a way out. These guys have developed a new aggressive strategy, many of them actually, designed to get you out of debt permanently without bankruptcy and without loans.

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Done With Debt will stand between you and your bill collectors. They can go head-to-head with their creditors, getting your balances reduced, your interest rates slashed, and penalties stopped. They create a plan to end your debt fast and put more cash in your pocket every month. And right now, Done With Debt is accepting new clients. But you need to act fast.

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some of these credit relief programs expire. Before you make another payment, consider a visit to donewithdebt.com or call 1-888-322-1054 right now. Speak with one of their debt relief strategists for free. Go to donewithdebt.com. That's donewithdebt.com. The mystery surrounding the deaths of legendary actor Gene Hackman and wife Betsy Arakawa appears to be solved.

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The husband and wife were found deceased in their Santa Fe, New Mexico home on February 26th by maintenance workers. On Friday, authorities revealing the cause of death.

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Hantavirus is contracted through exposure to rodent excrement, likely a deer mouse in this case. The coroner says it's not transmissible person to person. Mr. Hackman likely died on February 18th, a week after his wife. Advanced in Alzheimer's disease, authorities say it is likely Mr. Hackman was not aware of his wife's passing. Their dog, Zina, found deceased in a crate near Ms.

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Arakawa, likely died of starvation or dehydration. Authorities believe Zina was crated due to a recent medical procedure. By all accounts, Ms. Arakawa was a loving and devoted caregiver to her husband. The New York Times reports, quote, "'There was much about his life that she managed. "'She set up golf games with his friends. "'She policed his diet.

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"'Given the heart trouble that had dogged him for decades, "'she diluted his wine with soda water.'" Leslie Ann Allen, Mr. Hackman's daughter from a previous marriage, telling the New York Post, They had a wonderful marriage, and I give credit to his wife Betsy for keeping him alive. Mr. Hackman is survived by his three children.

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The Trump administration cracking down on anti-Semitic discrimination at Columbia University, promising other schools more action is still to come. A federal anti-Semitism task force convened under the Trump administration, slashing $400 million in grants and contracts to the school.

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Secretary of Education Linda McMahon writing in a statement, quote, Since October 7th, Jewish students have faced relentless violence, intimidation, and anti-Semitic harassment on their campuses, only to be ignored by those who are supposed to protect them.

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Part of a nationwide trend on college campuses, hundreds of Columbia and Barnard students demonstrated in unruly protests and sit-ins, ultimately building an encampment on the campus. The protests, mostly organized by students of wealth and privilege, sided with Hamas, which the U.S. recognizes as a terrorist organization.

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Protesters at Barnard College's Milstein Center disseminated pamphlets from the Hamas media office, glorifying the actions of October 7th, where 1,200 Israelis were murdered in cold blood. Protesters in the camp wore Palestinian keffiyehs and chanted anti-Semitic slogans. Jewish students reported persistent harassment and discrimination.

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Ultimately, the police were called in to dismantle the Gaza Solidarity encampment. More than 100 students were arrested. Police were called in again after students barricaded themselves inside a campus building.

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The actions of the students so horrific and the response of the faculty so feckless, Columbia President Manu Shafiq, along with other Ivy League presidents, called in front of Congress to answer for the chaos. President Shafiq ultimately resigned from her post amid criticism of her handling of the protests. Faculty and staff condemned her use of the police to disband the violent mob.

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Jewish students say the harassment persists to this day.

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Interim University President Katrina Armstrong calls the government's concerns about discrimination on her campus legitimate, saying, quote, Columbia can and will continue to take serious action toward combating anti-Semitism on our campus, end quote. The New York Times reports more than a quarter of Columbia's $6.6 billion in annual operating revenue comes from federal sources.

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Nine other schools are in the Trump administration's crosshairs for failure to take action against anti-Semitism on campus. Harvard, George Washington, Johns Hopkins, NYU, Northwestern, UCLA, UC Berkeley, the University of Minnesota, and the University of Southern California. In further action on Saturday, ICE officials arrested Palestinian activist Mahmoud Khalil just blocks away from campus.

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Mr. Khalil was a prominent organizer of the protests last year, acting as a negotiator between students and faculty. The AP reporting Mr. Khalil's attorney says not only has his student visa been revoked, but his green card is now gone as well. President Trump vowed to deport foreign students involved in illegal protests.

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Secretary of State Marco Rubio is in Saudi Arabia until Wednesday, negotiating with the Ukrainians on a peace plan to end their war with Russia. NBC News reporting President Trump now wants more than just a minerals deal. Mr. Trump would reportedly like to see a change in Ukrainian President Zelensky's attitude, a willingness to make concessions.

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President Trump would also like to see some movement toward elections in Ukraine. They were supposed to take place last spring, but were suspended under martial law. The Ukrainians will attempt to persuade the U.S. to resume military support and intelligence sharing, both paused after the disastrous Oval Office meeting with President Zelensky.

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The Financial Times reporting Kyiv is set to propose a partial ceasefire with Russia for long-range missile strikes and combat operations in the Black Sea. In recent days, the Russians have intensified attacks on Ukraine, causing significant civilian casualties and at least 22 deaths.

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Late last week, President Trump posting to Truth Social, quote, I am strongly considering large-scale banking sanctions and tariffs on Russia until a ceasefire and final settlement agreement on peace is reached. And that'll do it for your AM Update. I'm Megyn Kelly.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Megan Kelly, welcome to The Megan Kelly Show and happy Friday. Okay, can I just tell you something before we get started? You know what I did this morning? I did the best thing. The best, best thing. It was a talent show at our daughter's middle school. She's finishing eighth grade.

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Okay, but she doesn't seem to be in his camp anymore. I mean, that tweet, my team just sent it to me. She writes, this is what she wrote when the Casey Means news broke late on 5-7, so two days ago. This doesn't make any sense.

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I was promised that if I supported him in his Senate confirmation, neither of these siblings would be working under HHS or in an appointment and that people much more qualified would be. I don't know if RFK very clearly lied to me or what's going on. It's been clear in recent conversations that he is reporting to someone regularly who is controlling his decisions, and it isn't President Trump.

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Then she says the part about the siblings being artificial and aggressive and Manchurian. So she's turned on him. There's no question in my mind reading that tweet that there's no love lost between these two.

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Here she is speaking of her show on The Blaze. She gave an interview to Glenn Beck yesterday following up on this tweet, and here's what she said.

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And here's the other thing I loved about it. I loved that these girls, you know how we talk about mean girls and that's a thing. That's for sure. That's a thing. Well, here's the great thing about girls that you probably aren't going to see at the all boys assembly.

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Well, here's the thing. So you're right. Bobby Kennedy is at the heart of Maha. I mean, he he's been living Maha for decades without it having that name. And that's the whole reason he threw his hat into the presidential ring. Not the whole reason. He's got a lot of issues with how government is being run. Things like the military industrial complex to bother him.

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He's got a lot of great issues that resonate. But this is at the core of how he's lived his life as an environmental lawyer. But what happened with Maha, I mean, to my memory, I'm sure people will correct me, but what happened with Maha was Bobby was running his race. Then he got kicked out of the Democratic Party and he obviously wasn't going to win that nomination. And

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there was a question about whether he was going to endorse Kamala or Trump. And the Kamala team turned their back on him. They were so stupid and short-sighted, they wouldn't even talk to him. But he has this huge contingent of people who really connected with him. And Trump was like, yes, I will talk to you. So that happened. And at the same time, Tucker had on Casey and Callie Means together.

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And it was an episode that went totally viral. She's sold 1.5 million copies of this book, which is huge. She wrote it, but with Callie's help. And he's a similar crusader in that he worked for Coca-Cola and then he kind of became like a whistleblower on how these industries corrupt us. And They worked together to get RFKJ to endorse Trump and Tucker was part of it.

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And the next thing we knew, he did. That partnership was born. And when they did that dual announcement, refresh my memory if I'm wrong, like, but that's where they coined the phrase make America healthy again. When their partnership, Trump and Kennedy came together and the means were in on it. And so like they're right at the center of Maha. Like they're not satellite to it.

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all of them, like with their arms up for the listening audience, I'm waving like hands left to right and with every girl singing with every girl's piano solo, you know, the whole auditorium and like shouting out the girls, like total support, solidarity, sisterhood, not a hint of mean girl action, not a hint of it, just total support and like clicks for their fellow middle schoolers.

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They're not Johnny come lately's to it. They've been pushing this from long before Tucker found them. That's, you know, all these years of experiences are in good energy, the book. So it makes perfect sense to me why Bobby Kennedy would trust them and say, this is the person to be the spokesman for what we're doing.

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That's how Doug Brunt, my husband, met me, too. We were set up on a blind date, and when we had our first call about whether we'd go out or we'd meet for a drink, he was living in New York and I was living in D.C., and he said, oh, I'm going to be in D.C. next weekend or two weekends. And of course, that was all a lie. He just came down to see me, and it worked.

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I couldn't agree more with that. You either have that attitude or you don't. Like I'm now been at this job. I don't know. I've been in the professional working arena for longer than I care to say, actually, if I start doing math. I can count on like two fingers, Link, the number of times I have not gone to work. Like I literally have to be actively in the middle of vomiting to not show up.

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It's just who I am. Like I will crawl over hot coals to get to do my job because I just feel like that's the commitment that I've made. And by the way, even that presidential debate where Donald Trump and I tussled, I'd been violently vomiting all day long.

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Like, I mean it, like, which is why I mean, this is probably not great for me as a boss, but I like I don't have such an employee right now, just for the record. But like if I had somebody who was like constantly calling out sick or like, oh, I can't be there or don't know, I can't make it. I'd get rid of them. It's like, I'm sorry, but either you have this crusher work ethic or you don't.

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And I'm not in a job where that can even be abused. Journalism, it's not like law, where I'll take all 24 of your hours, all of them. This is like, at worst, you're going to be giving like nine hours. Like, shut up and do it. Sorry, that's how I feel.

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It was so uplifting. I don't know how they managed to make middle school pleasant, but they did. My daughter had a great time in it. I watched it happen with her and her friends. And congrats to all these girls who are trying to do middle school in a different way. And to these girls who got up on stage today and sat in the front row of their life. Love it. Absolutely love it. Okay.

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Yes. Wait, so that's the one where he was like, I don't know who the hell is this guy, but I love him.

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Before he knows your name very, very well. So let's talk about you a little bit. I think he does now. I want to hear more about how Link Lauren came into this world and was raised and how you got to be a conservative. So talk to us about your background.

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Just so people know, Barron Trump is going through this same experience right now. Keep going.

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Um, we right here have a great show lined up for you. It's not going to have Irish step dancing, but it is going to have link Lauren, which is, I mean, almost as good. He's the latest member of our MK media team and his podcast launches on Monday. He's a former senior advisor to RFKJ. which is perfect because there is so much maha drama happening right now.

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Wow. So you lean more right because you grew up in Texas and are your parents conservative? How did your politics get formed?

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No, it's so stupid and short sighted not to take advantage of this person who has a big presence on a very relevant, yes, controversial, but very relevant app where millions of young Americans go religiously every day, multiple times a day. I mean, multiple times a day. So it's so short sighted of them.

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Yeah. You know, this is how I feel about TMZ. TMZ will catch up with me at random wherever, you know, sometimes where I am. And I always talk to those guys. These are not bad guys. You know, like they're there. The shooter's going to get a couple dollars if you give him like some tape. Right. Answer a couple questions.

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And like if I were a politician and I saw some young guy just wanting to ask me who doesn't have a snarky way in, you know, he's not being an asshole. Of course. That's the name of the game. That's why Trump will talk to anybody because he gets that.

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And Link is ready to spill the tea, as they say. There's plenty to get to, including the continued media storm around the nomination of Casey Means to Surgeon General, but it kind of goes beyond that. And there's new reporting today on the relationship between 73-year-old Bill Belichick and 24-year-old Jordan Hudson. Is she banned from the University of North Carolina?

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How was it? I mean, I've talked to a lot of gay conservatives. I feel like every gay conservative man is a friend of mine. I just feel like I know so many of them. We understand. Well, I do. Well, as my as the guy who helps me with my costumes, because everybody knows I love my costume parties, as he said to Abby behind every great woman is a strong gay man. I love that. And I think it's true.

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But anyway, was it weird? Was it can you speak to what it was like? How old are you? You're young.

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All right. So how was it growing up in that time frame as a gay man who leans conservative in Texas?

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Did you have like a natural sunny disposition before the bullying?

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Yeah. Honestly, and they have absolutely no power over you. So you can relate to what I was saying at the top of the show that I witnessed in these young girls coming out to the microphone, you know, talented to the ears or working on it. It takes a lot of guts to do that, to stand in front of a microphone or on a stage in front of your peers and just let it go.

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Link is going to tell us why he's team Jordan. What? He is the host of the new podcast spot on with link Lauren. It launches Monday. Here's a preview. Take a look.

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Do we have a clip of you singing in said show? I want that too.

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Yeah. I mean, you forget that this is one of the things I love about you, Link, is that I feel like you take the important messaging that we have so much in common on and you bring it to a whole new generation. You resonate. I mean, I knew I knew of you and you'd been on the show and you were a star. Yeah.

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And I was a big fan, but a friend's teenager, one of my dear friends, I was talking to her teenager and he was like, you know who your favorite guest is of mine, Link Lauren. And he listed all the many reasons why he loves you.

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And it really was at that point that I was like, I actually need to seriously consider Link because for this new thing that we were launching, because I really think you're the voice of like the next generation. You're going to be able to speak to these young people in a way that yours truly might not be able to, Tucker might not be able to.

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You've got something and you've kind of been through things that they've been through more recently. They need somebody like you.

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You and Callie Means discussed President Trump, who you both, well, he knows him a bit and you've been following him for quite some time and had a funny moment. I want to play that shot. It's number four.

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That's A, charming. B, big news. And C, going to come as a crushing blow to the left.

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President Trump is definitely... lost some weight. He's slimming down. And I'm glad to hear that Bobby Kennedy stepped in with a carnivore diet. That's something President Trump could get behind. I don't see him going vegan, but I can see him going like maybe we can have him switching to like the Big Mac without the buns like that. That could be real progress.

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I'm not sure that would be Bobby approved, but that was great. And then you ask Callie about something very much in the news because of the controversy. around his sister, Casey, not knowing that this was about to hit, but you got into, uh, the, the pushing of trans on our children and Callie and Casey are very close. I told the audience this yesterday, I've spoken to Casey directly.

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Casey is where I am on the children and the trans thing. She will not push puberty blockers. She doesn't back. She doesn't believe in them for children. She doesn't believe in cross-sex hormones. She doesn't believe in surgical procedures in the trans lane for minors because she's a normal person, okay? And neither does Callie. You and he discussed it a bit in SOP 3. Mm-hmm.

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And he's called it demonic in the past, too. So this is all, by the way, so that the listening audience going to premiere on Lynx premiere episode as part of the MK Media Network. Go subscribe now wherever you get your podcast for free. It's called Spot on with Lynx Lauren, or you can go spot on with Lynx dot com, which will take you to all of Lynx socials and the YouTube and all that.

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But what did you make of Callie and even the notion that, frankly, either Callie or Casey is pro the transing of children?

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here is the other thing we talked about your, we began the hour with my daughter on this stage and our little schoolmates on stage. We talked a bit about your acting background. We didn't talk about your latest starring role. Here's a bit for people who missed link, which I know none of you did in the blonde origin world premiere, which happened one week ago today. Here he is. Watch.

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Link, you nailed it. You made that so much funnier. And then we talked about it last Friday. If you haven't seen Blonde Orange and Everybody, go to youtube.com slash Megyn Kelly. It's still there. What was it like for you starring in your latest film?

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You two were a great combo, and I can promise the audience you are not done with this amazing acting team. Yes, we're all world-class actors now. From Maureen and Sarah to Link and Mark, I think we are all on board for a part two. The only question is who will we be targeting next? We're taking your submissions. You can email me. Megan at megankelly.com.

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And so it was all the girls in this middle school doing their thing. I am such a sucker for this stuff. Guys, I cried like five times. Not like the ugly cry, but cried. I mean, like actual tears. Over what? Kids I do not know, like some random child getting up there and singing. Some amazing, some not that amazing. Didn't matter. Just like the Just the risk of it.

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We'll be right back more with link right after this quick break. As we go, please subscribe. Now's a great time while we go to break and follow his show on podcast, YouTube and social media. The show is called spot on with link spot on. with Link, and we call it that for a very good reason.

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You can go now and subscribe on any podcast, wherever you get your podcasts, it's available. And go to Spot On with Link. We'll take you to all of Link's socials. It launches on Monday, but let's get him a good boost by subscribing now and then downloading on Monday.

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Okay, let's talk about the Pope for a minute because we've learned a lot about our newly elected Pope since this time yesterday when the news broke. He was Cardinal Robert Francis Prevost, and now he's Pope Leo XIV. And he's from Chicago. He's born in Chicago. As I was calling him yesterday online, da Pope, which is kind of fun from Chicago, like da bears.

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And then he went, he was sent by Pope Francis or over to Peru. I think it was Pope Francis and I, but the Pope at the time sent him over to Peru where he spent a long time and he actually became a dual citizen of America and Peru. And then he wasn't made a Cardinal until 2023. But he's since then been the guy in charge of finding new bishops and elevating priests up to the bishop position.

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So obviously he had some friends inside the conclave, and it worked for him yesterday. Now, we had somebody from the Catholic Channel join us, and he was saying no one, really almost no one, was predicting that this would be the guy. And that really is true. If you look back at the articles leading up to this, he was not mentioned by virtually anybody. except these two people.

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The first one that I want to show you is the man who conducted the christening of all three of my children, Father Jonathan Morris, who later left the priesthood. And now instead of calling him F.J., we have to call him F.F.J. as in former Father Jonathan. But he says my kids' christenings are still legit. They still count. But here he was three days before the conclave in Rome.

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That's a great, it's a great promo link. Welcome everybody. Go subscribe and follow now. So you don't miss the premiere episode. It's called spot on with link.com. You can go there and, uh, any, any podcast feed, you can find a spot on with link. You've got to go subscribe, follow, and enjoy as the first episode hits on Monday. If you haven't heard about Riverbend Ranch, listen up.

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OK, one more credit where it's due. Piers Morgan had Steve Bannon. Steve Bannon. He's predicted so much accurately on his show a week ago. And here's Steve Bannon.

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Steve Bannon is the bomb. I mean, it's one thing for FFJ to know it because that's his business. You know, he still knows the church so well. But Steve Bannon, he's got his finger on the pulse. Anyway, what do you make of it? Because there's been a bunch of reporting about that this pope was he voted in Republican primaries in Illinois and he is anti Republican.

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transing of children and trans ideology. Uh, that seems clear from some of his tweets and remarks. He's of course against abortion. He doesn't believe in gay marriage.

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These are not surprising things for the Catholic church, but, and he's pro migrant doesn't surprise me either, but he has had five tweets or retweets in the past couple of years, critical of either JD Vance, Trump or Trump's immigration policies in particular. So what do you make of it?

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I think there's not going to be a pope who's not pro-mass migration. Right, right. It's Catholicism. I mean, that's Catholicism. They're very pro-migrant, you know, wash the feet of the poor and the hungry and those who need us. And, you know, we're a bunch of bleeding hearts at, you know, bottom, unless if you're trans or gay, in which case, no. Sorry, Link. They love gays and lesbians.

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Yes. Well, I think I can speak to this because as a Catholic in America, Pope Francis, God rest him, was very progressive and kind of turned the church in a progressive direction and did some battle with America and our president for a while when it was Donald Trump, not when it was Joe Biden. And we didn't much like that. So it's great to see an American pope

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And I actually am open-minded to this Pope, notwithstanding those tweets. I really think even a conservative-leaning Pope could have sent out those tweets because, I'm sorry, the Catholic Church is very pro-immigration. It's not my favorite thing, but it's the truth. So I don't think we know enough about him yet to know what kind of Pope he will be. Now, here's something fun, though.

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He's from Chicago. White socks, not cubs, from what I read. And his brother, John, he's got like a normal brother. John Provost, Prevost, living in Chicago still, who gave a presser yesterday to everybody who was knocking down his door. And listen to him talking about his brother, Bob.

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Amazing. He just finished watching the movie. I'm pretty sure this pope is not intersex, so we've done better than that ridiculous movie. But isn't that cool? It's like you never think of the pope. You know, it's just being like a regular guy. He grew up Bob, and that's his brother John. Yeah.

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Think of the money he could make with just like baby pictures of the Pope, you know, or like those silly toddler videos that we all shoot now of our kids. I wonder if he's got some of Bob. I don't know. Maybe it's the fact that he's an American, you know, so all of these references are going to be familiar to us. He's going to have some of the same habits as we do. Um, I don't know.

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It's just kind of cool to think about because he's, you know, we believe he gets elevated by the Holy spirit. And so Bob, the word will love her. who watches the same TV shows we do, is now Pope and leader of 1.4 billion Catholics across the globe. Very cool stuff.

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I never play Wordle either. I know, notwithstanding. My kids play it. Okay. While we're on the subject of religion, did you watch the Met Gala at all on Monday? No.

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Okay, I didn't know if you would watch. I thought maybe highlights. So, you know, Lisa, Lisa, who I only know this woman from White Lotus, but she also sings and is apparently very popular in the K-pop world, decided to wear underwear to the Met Gala and to put Rosa Parks' face on her underwear. It seems very clear.

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And then there was backlash because she's a civil rights icon and she's kind of one of the untouchables in American history. Like everybody's proud of Rosa Parks. Like it's just one of our icons who like had absolutely no power and did this extraordinary thing. And so the worst people have ever said about Rosa Parks is it was orchestrated and it was planned. Who cares still? I mean, amazing.

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She had no power. She's at the lowest end of the totem pole and the power structure. And she did this extraordinary thing on the bus, blah, blah, blah. she doesn't really belong on anybody's vagina. That's just like, it shouldn't be controversial. So, and it should be known K-pop or not. So now in the wake of the backlash, her rep has come out to say, that's not Rosa Parks.

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That is the, this artist who came up with her or the designer who came up with her outfit. The designer's rep has come out to say this designer is put his neighbor's face on Lisa's underwear. That's his neighbor, Link. It's not Rosa. Now look, we've done a scientific experiment. We have zoomed in. Sorry, folks. This is a very, very close-up of Lisa's crotch. And there is Rosa on screen, right?

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And I'm sorry, but it's the same person. It's look where you can even see they did the part, the exact part in the exact part of the head as we see on Rosa, but they're denying it link because yeah, you know why.

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It's a good point. Yeah. I don't believe the designer's rep. One bit. I think it's Rosa Parks. The whole theme was black dandyism. And you know what you did, Lisa. Lisa.

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Because the designer was like, Lisa, guess who I put on your underwear? And I bet you she was too dumb to realize that might be controversial. That's my bet. OK, sorry. Speaking of the Met Gala, there is fallout, other fallout. Rapper Dochi, no idea. It was very clear I don't follow music that closely because I never heard of Lisa outside of White Lotus. Okay, so now this is Dochi, D-O-E-C-H-I-I.

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We know her on this show only as the weird lady who decided to put like a box around her as she walked from the hotel, Mark. Mm-hmm. The Mark Hotel out like their little mini red carpet to get into her van to be taken over to the Met Gala. And she didn't want to be seen and she didn't want to be rained on. And she turned into a massive bully screaming at her staff. I need another umbrella.

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Dochi's an angry person. I think we can safely conclude that. And now she's trying to play it down like something like, you know, well, when you need an umbrella, like, I'm sorry, but that doesn't do anything to quell my reaction. I think most people's reaction at what a bitch she was to her staff. And it's like over an umbrella, right?

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Like, it's not like, oh my God, turns out I have an enormous hole in the back of my dress that shows my entire ass. Like, I would yell like that. I would. But get me another umbrella now. Get me a fucking umbrella. This is not a nice person.

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This is what she was so scared we might see. For the listening audience, it's weird little checkered shorts and a weird checkered top with like a bow tie that's like the pussy bow that, you know, used to be in. style a couple years ago, and that's it. I'm like, that's okay. Great. Some sort of a cape as well.

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I don't know. Well, let's be honest. One umbrella will work over doji the way it works over all of our hair.

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And by the way, half the stars came out of the mark and everybody posed and let the photogs have a shot the way you wanted them to. Like everybody's PR agent would love to have a shot by the photogs here and at the Met Gala. You get both. It's not going to be like, oh, we blew it because we already saw it at the mark. I mean, she's just, this woman's an idiot.

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So I love to see the fallout from the people over there because they're bad people. Okay. There's more. We've got to get to my favorite story of the day, which is Hilaria Baldwin. Hilaria Link. She's got a new book out. Okay. And she really, really wants us to get to know her better. It's called Manual Not Included. It came out this past Tuesday.

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The cover shows Alec Baldwin with tape over his mouth in a box surrounded by the kids. His daughter is holding the roll of tape. And Elaria is standing next to him in a humiliating pose. What is this? I don't know who that was. But in any event, that's not Alec. Okay. So she talks about, among other things, the beginning of their relationship.

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Let's take a listen to that soundbite because she also did the audio book.

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Once you taste it, I think you're going to be coming back for more and more. Again, riverbendranch.com, code Megan. Great to see you. Are you excited?

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These are Link's opinions, but they're well-founded, in my opinion. All allegedly.

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It's allegedly. No, it's your opinion based on the way she's behaved, and I share your opinion. This is a very strange woman. And on the gold-digging front, I think she's wrong, first of all, because— Yes, if she left after one kid, he'd have to pay her child support.

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That wouldn't necessarily keep her in the same style that she's become accustomed to as his full-time wife and the mother of seven kids. And secondly, I actually don't know that it was all money-driven. I'm pretty sure it was fame driven. Fame is a different form of gold. And I think she was extremely attracted to that. And I think that's ongoing.

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You can't, as soon as you divorce Alec, the tabloids will follow you around for a year just to see if you say anything about Alec. But they have no actual independent interest in Hilaria Baldwin. None. And she knows that. She's only interesting because she's his wife. And let's face it, he's one of the biggest stars in America. He is. By the way, my favorite Baldwin is now Billy Baldwin.

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Still like Steven, but it's Billy who came on the show last week on National Fentanyl Day. And unlike a lot of these other Hollywood stars, didn't turn up his nose at my audience, even though it has many conservatives, just because they're conservatives. You know, like so many assholes who are trying to like promote some health initiative will skip conservative media.

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Like they want conservatives to die forever. They don't care if their kids get sick. It's messed up. So hats off to Stephen, or sorry, Billy Baldwin for being here. Okay, so back to Hilaria. So I think she's a fame digger. It's a different kind of gold. That's my own personal belief on her. The best part of all this is she gets to the Spanish accent, the fake Spanish.

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She grew up in a Tony Boston suburb. Her name is Hillary. It's not Hilaria as she wants us to believe. It's Hillary. And she's as white as they come. She's not Spanish. And she was mocked mercilessly a few years ago during COVID for this clip that was on the Today Show where she pretended to forget how to say in English the word cucumber. She's American. She did not grow up in Spain.

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She's bilingual, but her native tongue is English. Remember this? Mm-hmm.

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How do you say in English? How do you say in English? Okay, so now she's attempting to explain this problem as follows.

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Oh my God. She's neurodivergent. It's her ADHD that made her not remember how to say cucumber in English, Link. You buying it?

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Here's the other thing she says in the same part of the book where she's talking about she's neurodivergent, and that's why she forgets her English word for cucumber. I mean, first of all, not for nothing, but it's such an obvious lie because there are multiple examples of Ilaria talking in a fake Spanish accent. Like, there she was in a fake Spanish accent and pretending to forget her English.

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But we've run these clips ad nauseum on the show of her, like... Let me tell you something. When this baby needs his mama, she's like she's she's I think she's from Weston, Massachusetts. She's from like it's not Western. It's one identical, which is literally one of the nicest suburbs in the world. She went to a private girl school. She has the parents have tons of money.

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She is as white as you or I are. And she was Hillary. She now I'm back to Hillary now. No, you are not, Hilarion. That too is an affectation. So she writes in this passage, okay, growing up being neurodivergent, you heard some of this there. I had to work harder in school than many of the people around me.

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Now I know that it's ridiculous that anyone would feel outraged or amused because someone forgot a word. She says, but back then, and I think she's referencing the 2020 controversy over Cucumber. I started to really unravel. Yeah, yeah, she was. I was confused. I felt lost. I missed my family. I couldn't eat. I got very thin. I started to question my sanity.

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Then she says, I wanted to be dead and I got worse and worse and worse. I took speech therapy to enunciate better. The more I got treatment for the ADHD that I was trying to ignore, the better I got at separating the two languages and not getting as distracted. I tried to improve myself in all the ways, and that's when Hilaria returned. You heard the end of this, Blake.

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She appears to be suggesting that she wanted to kill herself over the cucumber controversy, over the fact that she wanted to enunciate better. That's very strange because, as I say, there is a string of tape of her continuing to pretend she's Spanish. And there's a tape of Alec Baldwin on one of the late night shows saying, my wife, she's from Spain. And then he imitates her Spanish accent.

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You're like, these two have been lying about this weird fake origin story for years.

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I know. I agree. He could have a comeback. You know, he needs to lose 30 pounds and shave.

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Yeah, seriously. And like me and a divorce, obviously. Here she speaks to what happened with the death of Helena Hutchins, the cinematographer who Alec killed. on set of the rust movie in a mistake where he says he didn't fire the gun, but the experts all say that gun wouldn't have fired if he hadn't pulled the trigger, but he wasn't trying to kill her. There's no dispute.

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It was a terrible tragedy and accident on, on board on the set. In any event, she died and listen to this weird take on the aftermath of that. Listen, see if it jumps out at you as it did to us. It's not 25.

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Yeah, that's the thing. Who says, you know, yes, he came under, you know, all this public scrutiny. It was a media firestorm. I could have left him. I could have taken the children and walked. What? As if that's like one of the top options, like when your spouse is in trouble, you're like, I can just peace out. Fuck him. I don't really, this is his problem, not mine. Exactly. Really?

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I'm having a Meghan Markle moment. Like I have people on the podcast who are just going to say nice things about me. I swear that's not what's happening here. No, I know you hate that.

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Who even thinks like that? You know, like this is like Doug writing a book about our life together. And then he gets to the chapter about NBC when I was all over the papers and saying terrible things about me. And like him being like, I could have left her right then. I could have taken our kids and walked. Who? What? Wait a minute, honey. Huh?

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And it goes back to my original theory. Cause if she's in, she's like a fame digger. it's crossed over to infamy for Alec Baldwin. So I might be out. Like the one thing I was in it for has waned and actually gone a different direction, which doesn't work for me.

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So I, you know, under the implicit terms of our relationship, which is like, I'm young and vibrant and probably a nice partner in certain ways. And you are supposed to be the one who is famous and gets us a lot of positive attention. And you've broken your end of the bargain, which is why I can leave. our contract's been violated.

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Thank you for that. Honestly, we're lucky to have you. You're a total rising star. And in a year, everybody's going to be like, oh my God, why didn't we try harder to get link? And I'm going to look at them all and say too bad and too late. It was very obvious the first time we saw you that you're a special talent and you have a special way of communicating. Not everybody has it.

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This is a breach by you, which releases me from all further obligations. That's really what I hear her saying there. Here she is on their reality show. Can I say one thing real quick?

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She doesn't need a new husband if she really is just in it for the money because listen to what she said on their reality show, Sat 26.

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These two don't like each other. And it seemed to be at the end, he released her from signing. That's what I think I heard there. But in any event, I think she'll be okay at this point.

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She, I just want to close the segment and go to break with this. This is, you know, it wasn't just cucumber. How you say cucumber in English? Here's just yet another of her. You tell me whether this sounds like a girl from the suburbs of Boston.

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There's a special ingredient list that goes into really connecting with an audience. And even people who I really respect and who are very charming to me personally don't always have the right combo, at least in my eyes, to really succeed as an independent host in a podcast. And you've got those qualities in Spades Link, Lauren. Thank you so much.

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Go home. I'm not going to say anything. And Alex, not going to say anything. And don't bother my family, my baby. They ask me, mommy, what the, who does she think she's kidding? That's not neurodivergence. And you know what? Screw you, Hilaria, for trying to piggyback on people who actually do have neurodivergence and ADHD and blaming your weird, fake cosplaying as a Spaniard on them.

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You fool. No one. This is why it didn't work out between the two of you. It sounds like you upgraded too. All right. Stand by. Quick break. More with Link Lauren coming up as we go to break. Go ahead. Now's a good time to go subscribe to Spot On with Link Lauren. It launches on Monday. It'll be available on all platforms for podcasts.

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And you have a great guest who is Callie Means. Hello. Talk about like perfect timing. Synchronicity, yes. Show a clip from Cali Means. Let's talk about Cali Means. Cali Means is the brother of Casey Means. Casey Means is now our nominee for Surgeon General. The other woman, Janet Neshawat, has been turfed. She's going to take some random job within HHS.

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This just in, this just in, my daughter was a cow at the talent show. It was a cow costume. Now I'm glad that's been clarified. She and her friend were prancing around with the cow outfits, with the enormous pillows in the front of the outfits to be their big cow bellies. Nailed it. Okay. Someone who's also acting. as a founder, inspired this scene from the With Love Megan, M-E-G-Y-N.

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Maureen and I, before we did Blonde Origin, Link, we did an acting gig without you. And our debut movie was us mocking her. And here's a clip from that special production.

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I mean, you have to be a founder to really understand it fully. But maybe in the next wave of our friendship, I'll try to explain it to you. Hold that tight, please. OK. Now, this of course didn't come out of the ether. I want to play for you the latest bit from her podcast, which is called Confessions of a Female Founder. Here she is.

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You too are a founder now. Founder of the Spot On podcast with Link Lauren. Welcome to the club. It's very exclusive.

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Good for you, girl. Good for you, Megan. Good for you. And I love how she's like, we sold out in 45 minutes. Meanwhile, not said is, what was the inventory like? Honestly, for all I know, she had 20 jars of jam and 20 of her weird popcorn things. Like, I have no idea. It's not necessarily a sign of success that you sold out in 45 minutes. I have no idea what your inventory was.

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My information is it was an RFKJ move all the way. He didn't know or want Janet Neshawat. He knew and wanted Casey Means. That makes perfect sense to me because Casey's integral to the whole Maha movement is With all due respect to Janet, she wasn't. She's not really even a part of it.

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Maureen actually bought one of the jams just for research, and it was in the most shoddy, pathetic little cardboard. It was truly something you'd find at, like, your kid's, like— bake sale, whatever. They put something together just to try to hawk goods and raise money for a worthy cause. It was like this cardboard cheap as ever stenciled thing. It wasn't good.

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So anyway, there she is being self-promotional. And then Dan Wooden, when he was on the other day, he came out and he told us this, that one of her guests another founder, because she just keeps having on people who she's invested in so they can tell everybody how great she is. She decides to take a shot at her for wearing Birkenstocks when she first met the Duchess, Link, which you don't do.

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Yeah. And just a stylist. That's all it would really take. Okay. We've got to move on because we've got to get to what's happening with Bill Belichick. There is a reporter who is claiming his name is Pablo Torre.

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He used to be at ESPN who is claiming that the girl, the girlfriend, Jordan Hudson is no longer allowed in the UNC football building in the wake of all this controversy over whether she's like elder abusing him. Listen to his report.

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So of course he would want one of his main gurus, lieutenants, I think she's both to him, right at the helm of his own messaging on health. But... My God, this is like the Maha people, they love drama. They're very dramatic, Link. I love them, but this is a lot of drama over the Surgeon General pick, okay?

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Okay, but then UNC came out following his report and issued the following statement. While Jordan Hudson is not an employee here, she's welcome to the Carolina football facilities, the school said in a statement. Jordan will continue to manage all activities related to Coach Belichick's personal brand outside of his responsibilities for Carolina football and the university.

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So they say she's welcome. Then Pablo fires back saying, stand by, Uh, the university of North Carolina can choose to describe or change its position on Jordan Hudson's involvement. However it wishes following the publication of our episodes, it was on his podcast. He said it, we requested comment and filed dozens of FOIA requests that were not satisfied.

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And we stand by the specific reporting in our episode, which came from the highest levels of the football program. So the drama continues. Link, Lauren, what do you make of it? Why, say you, are you on Team Jordan?

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You know, just these little girls getting up there and like standing alone in front of a microphone, looking out at a full audience and singing. That takes guts. That's ballsy. And then other girls do. It was like everything from like one girl did the Irish, you know, step dancing. That was great. And another girl played the violin. Another girl, she was a sleeper, a sleeper candidate.

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OK, well, I see your point. It may be the, you know, the bargain they struck. And why are we immediately on his side? You know, she it does look to me slightly like elder abuse. So I do have those questions. But if he's of sound mind, it's his choice. I still find her obnoxious, though. OK, well, Michelle Obama.

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But I don't know if he is. I mean, it just looks like that from afar. I don't know Bill Belichick. Okay. Michelle Obama, listen to this.

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Once again, speaking a reference to her for time as first lady negatively, and I'm transitioning. I mean, an interesting choice of words, given how the internet refers to her.

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I love Casey, but we're treating this like it's the National Security Advisor or the Secretary of State, okay? So what the hell is happening? Give us your 30,000-foot view. You work for RFKJ, so you know this world and these people very well. And what's happening here? Uh-huh.

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Tell it to your friend, Oprah. Link Lauren, very excited for Monday. Everybody's got to check out his first episode of Spot On with Link Lauren. A pleasure, my friend. Have a great weekend.

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And all of you enjoy your weekend too. See you Monday. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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Totally. I agree with you on all fronts. But man, oh, man, are they trying to take her down? It is the weirdest collective hit. Now, listen, without casting these aspersions on any individual, I will say there's no question in my mind that big pharma doesn't want her and big ag probably doesn't want her. And so she's going to have some very powerful enemies. And we saw this

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again, I'm not talking about any individual person, but I guarantee you some collection of the attacks on her that we're seeing on X are bought and paid for because we saw this. Remember when, um, when they were pushing to not have snap benefits include, uh, the ability to buy like Coca-Cola.

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And then it came out that, uh, some of these people who are going to be hurt by these revisions were trying to pay like the lobbyists for these groups were trying to pay random influencers to be like, Oh, this is big daddy legislation. You know, conservatives to try to speak to conservatives to try to turn the MAGA group against this reform.

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And there's no question they're not going to lie down and let somebody like Casey Means become the messenger. They already have to deal with RFKJ. They're pissed off enough about that.

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So these are very deep-pocketed people, and I'm sure there are some online right now who are being paid by them. I'd love to find out for sure. And then there are others who have legitimate, honest questions about Casey, and that's fine. That's politics. Hello. But here's an example of some of the stuff we're hearing. So Callie Means versus Nicole Shanahan. We didn't get to this yesterday, but...

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Nicole Shanahan, RFKJ's running mate, can't stand Callie and Casey. I didn't know this, but she came out. I don't have the tweet in front of me, but man, did she lay into them. She called them like Manchurian assets and, And said, I was promised that if I supported RFKJ in his Senate confirmation for the HHS role, that these two wouldn't come anywhere near HHS or government.

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came out there with a guitar. She played the first couple of chords. I was like, okay, let's see if she can play. And then she started singing. She was a voice of an angel. It was like brought down the house. My daughter and her dear, dear friend have done the same thing.

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So did Bobby lie to me or what? Because they, to me, are so weird and aggressive. This is Nicole Shanahan, that they seem like Manchurian assets. Now, Brett Baer asked Bobby Kennedy about that. He had like a health panel of the top health officials last night. And here's what happened.

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So it's interesting. He didn't take on, is somebody controlling me? But he's basically saying everybody up here is a renegade and kind of uncontrollable. For the record, he was with Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, who was canceled during COVID, Dr. Marty McCary of Johns Hopkins, who now runs FDA, and Dr. Mehmet Oz, who's going to be overseeing Medicare and, of course, RFKJ. Go ahead, Link, your thoughts.

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I think all four years of middle school in our town, it goes fifth through eighth, um, where they put on an enormous animal costume and do a dance to get like last year. I think they were a horse in this year. Um, I don't know what the custom was this year. Was it a dog? It was unidentifiable. So all of it, it just makes me cry because it's like risk-taking, a moment in the spotlight.

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But unlike every other time in history, an American-born man walked out on that balcony to the cheering crowds below. Robert Francis Prevost is now Pope Leo XIV. Born in Chicago and alum of Villanova University in Philadelphia, he has spent most of his time in Peru and is a dual citizen. He has been serving as head of the Dicastery for Bishops since 2023. The powerful position means

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He oversees the selection of new bishops. President Trump giving his congratulations shortly after the announcement, writing on Truth Social, quote, it is such an honor to realize that he is the first American pope. What excitement and what a great honor for our country. I look forward to meeting Pope Leo XIV. It will be a very meaningful moment. A shock pick.

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Little has been written in the weeks since Pope Francis' death about what sort of Pope Leo XIV might be. But that has not slowed down the Internet speculation. Many reports describing him as a centrist. His home state of Illinois does not register voters by party, but he appears to have voted in several Republican primaries.

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However, an ex-account believed to belong to Prevost used sparingly, sharing an article in February headlined, J.D. Vance is wrong. Jesus doesn't ask us to rank our love for others. Additional tweets and retweets have been critical of Mr. Trump or his policies. Still, some conservatives see the fact that he chose a traditional papal name and wore the traditional papal garb

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Friday, May 9th, 2025, and this is your AM Update. White smoke at the Vatican, there's a new pope, and for the first time ever, he's from America.

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as Benedict XVI did and Francis did not, as encouraging signs. Much more on this historic day for Catholics and the world, and on the new American Pope in the days and weeks ahead. Former President Biden appearing for a lengthy interview on The View on Thursday alongside his wife, Dr. Jill Biden, for part of it.

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This comes as several books are being released about his final years in the White House with implications of a cover-up of his cognitive decline. Through pre-scripted questions from the hosts, the former president gave rambling, at times incoherent, answers. At one point, President Biden asked to address why his vice president, Kamala Harris, lost to President Trump pointed to sexism and racism.

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Why do you think the vice president lost, and were you surprised?

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Former President Joe Biden, plus Dr. Jill, sit through a rambling and defensive appearance on The View. And President Trump's new pick for Surgeon General, Casey Means, gets attacked by some in the Maha movement. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update. Tax day may have passed, but for millions of Americans, the real trouble is just beginning.

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Sonny Hostin asked Mr. Biden about the way Ms. Harris answered Hostin's questioning during a campaign appearance on The View. She said that answer had been weaponized against Ms. Harris when Harris refused to name an area of disagreement with her boss.

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Anyway, we worked it out. When Jill Biden joined the show, she cut in and interrupted her husband to respond herself to accusations of cognitive decline laid out in these recent books.

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It's a lifestyle. And later, Dr. Jill addressed critics who said she was like Lady Macbeth during the last year of her husband's administration.

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And we may be hearing more from former President Biden soon. Politico reporting the Trump administration is weighing the possible release of the full audio from special counsel Robert Herr's interview with then-President Biden that took place in October 2023. The transcript was released last year. Coming up, President Trump picks Casey Means as his next Surgeon General. How'd that go?

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President Trump announcing Wednesday a last-minute switcheroo for his Surgeon General pick, pulling Dr. Jeanette Neshawat just before her confirmation hearing, and instead picking Dr. Casey Means, a functional medicine doctor and co-author of the best-selling book, Good Energy, which she co-wrote with her brother, Callie Means.

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In making the announcement, President Trump wrote, quote, Casey has impeccable MAHA credentials. and will work closely with our wonderful Secretary of Health and Human Services, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., to ensure a successful implementation of our agenda in order to reverse the chronic disease epidemic and ensure great health in the future for all Americans.

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On The Megyn Kelly Show last month, host of the MK Media Show, NextUp, Mark Halperin described the board of directors for the Trump administration as the three most influential voices on the outside, and all three board members approve of Casey Means, quote, phenomenal pick by President Trump, wrote Charlie Kirk, while Donald Trump Jr. posted excellent pick, huge for Maha.

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Tucker Carlson, the third member, hosted Casey and her brother Callie on his podcast last year in a viral episode that introduced them onto the national scene. Casey has also been a regular guest on The Megyn Kelly Show. In November, she joined the show to talk about the headwinds RFKJ would face when he took over HHS in the new administration, headwinds she'll no doubt face too, if confirmed.

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However, the positive response to the announcement has been far from universal. Nicole Shanahan, who was RFKJ's running mate and a leading voice of the Maha movement, posted a lengthy critique of both Casey and Callie means on X, writing, quote, doesn't make any sense.

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I was promised that if I supported RFKJ in his Senate confirmation that neither of these siblings would be working under HHS or in an appointment. and that people much more qualified would be. I don't know if RFK very clearly lied to me or what's going on.

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It has been clear in recent conversations that he is reporting to someone regularly who is controlling his decisions, and it isn't President Trump. With regards to the siblings, there is something very artificial and aggressive about them, almost like they were bred and raised Manchurian assets."

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Meanwhile, MAGA influencer Laura Loomer attacked Casey over a book her father wrote, which says it is for kids confused about their gender and sexual identities.

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Your humble reporter has spoken directly to Casey Means about the gender issue and children and can report that she is against the transing of children and will not support puberty blockers, cross-sex hormones, or surgical procedures in this lane on minors. Ms. Loomer also attacked Dr. Means for using psychedelics and for not having an active medical license.

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Dr. Means allowed it to go inactive when she stopped seeing patients years ago. Like the confirmation hearings for RFKJ and others in the Trump administration, this one will be contentious and we'll have it covered for you. President Trump announcing the first of his post-Liberation Day trade deals with the United Kingdom.

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In a morning post on Truth Social, he explained why he started with the UK, writing, quote, Because of our longtime history and allegiance together, it is a great honor to have the United Kingdom as our first announcement. President Trump joined in the Oval Thursday morning to mark the occasion by his vice president, J.D.

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Vance, Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick, and others, with UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer phoning in.

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Prime Minister Starmer echoing President Trump's sentiments on the deal.

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The deal keeps the 10% across the board tariffs that the Trump administration put into place, but removes some of the additional tariffs that were on top of that 10%. For example, the 25% tariff on UK steel and aluminum will be removed, and the first 100,000 vehicles imported into the U.S. will not be subject to the additional 25% rate.

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In return, the UK government will be removing the tariff they had on ethanol from the U.S., and agreed to quote reciprocal market access on beef. Commerce Secretary Lutnick pointing to President Trump as the closer in getting his first deal done.

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President Trump posting on Truth Social, quote, many other deals which are in serious stages of negotiation to follow. In other news, the Golden Globes just added a best podcast category to its awards. Could AM Update be in contention? Who cares? The only good opinion we want is yours. Thanks for listening. That'll do it for your AM Update. I'm Megyn Kelly.

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The bedside situation. So Daniel, the makeup artist... Gets this tray of welcoming presence, unlike anything I've ever seen. So she... He's coming to help her with her series. And she puts together this tray for, like, his bedside that includes homemade Epsom salts. Doesn't everybody who wants Epsom salts just order the same blue bag that we all get from CVS or you can get it on Amazon?

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It's huge. And you dump half of it into the bath. But she's, like, hand-mixing the Himalayan salt in with his special Epsom salts. And then the pretzels. Oh. Oh, the pretzels. The pretzels. Like... Oh, we have it. Okay, here's thought three.

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Right. Very clearly. And she, then he cuts his finger in, in one. It is the tiniest little slit. It looks like a paper cut that he gets. And the reaction is so over the day. Oh, it's like drama. We have drama for our show. Something happened. This is so exciting. They make a big thing out of her going to get the bandaid and wrapping it up. And all I can think is this is the car chase.

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This is the Manhattan car chase all over again. Like why? It's huge. Something's happened. Alert.

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Her need for drama was very evident. So here's, and I want to play the mini moment with standby. I just, I thought you'd get a kick out of this. So I made notes as I was watching a couple of the episodes and then I just got too tired and I abandoned this. Okay. By the way. Okay. So that, that popcorn that you see on her tray for Daniel, she took, uh,

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a corn of cob, a cob of corn, and stuffed it in a brown paper bag and put it in the microwave. A dead cob of corn.

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Meanwhile, it's like, what? Who is not just putting a thing of Orville Redenbacher in the microwave for a minute 30 or 230? Seriously. That like ridiculous, literally nobody's going out to get a dead corn cob, putting it into a brown paper bag and trying to pop that shit. Everyone knows that's going to go wrong. Exactly. One hundred percent. OK, so that's what she does then.

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Yeah, I have the same note. Don't tie a knot without a bow. Peanut butter pretzels. OK, she shows the house that is clearly not hers. And then she continues to remind us this is not my house. It's a beautiful home. It's nicer than everyone on earth's kitchen. Yeah. But she makes a point repeatedly of being like, this isn't my home. Her home is obviously 10 times nicer than this one.

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And she wants us to know that because she's, you know, the Duchess. And she later says to People Magazine, like, my home is just too intimate for me to share with others. And I'm not comfortable having 80 crew members come in.

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If she doesn't want us to judge her cooking, she should do it off cam and in private, right? Like it's, she's putting it out there for public consumption. You know, that reminds me of something, a point I wanted to make last week.

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I gotta tell you, just to kick it off. So yesterday, I showed you a little bit before we got started. Last night, I went to my daughter's performance in The Little Mermaid at her school. And these eighth grade girls absolutely crushed it. I cried so many times.

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I went down and did this interview with Ben Smith of Semaphore, and he gave me a hard time because he thought I got too personal when I raised the fact that Rachel Maddow makes $25 million a year, but she's out there pretending to boo-hoo the layoffs at MSNBC, which are her fault for discrediting her own network with Russia, Russia, Russia, et cetera.

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And he was like, you know, you showed her houses. not in shown address. I showed the picture. Now, how do you think I got pictures of Rachel Maddow's houses? Is it because she invited me over and I surreptitiously photographed them and then betrayed her by, she fucking had them photographed. She put them on the air because she wanted us to celebrate her luxurious life. Yes.

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She put those on the air. Yes. Her massive spread in Western Massachusetts. It was in a magazine. Oh, it's like architectural digest or something.

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Yeah. You Oh, it's totally fair game. And by the way, in the other pictures of her apartment, we're on like a realtor.com situation and all over all the real estate blogs and things as Rachel Maddow's apartment. Now, let me tell you something. I have sold and bought homes and apartments since I became a public figure. Good luck. Good luck to you. Go ahead right now. Google Megyn Kelly homes.

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You might find some bullshit. I saw some one long YouTube video that showed me with like a Bentley. That does not seem your speed. I have a BMW, but I don't have a Bentley. We don't publicize where we live and we don't show our homes because I'm not trying to rub anything about my life into anybody else's face. She put her name on that because she thought she'd get a better sale price on it.

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It's totally fair game. And Meghan Markle is totally fair game. She's doing this because she wants us to watch it and comment and react.

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I cried when they opened the play, when they closed the play, when the little mermaid Ariel came out, when my daughter who played Ursula came out. I cried when the mermaid sisters were up. I was like a hot mess. It's so emotional. I don't know what it is. Just like there's something about, yes, your child coming of age and like out there doing her thing. Yeah.

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Oh my God. That's so interesting. Well, we did look at, there were a couple of celebrities in that building at least. So she's chosen, of course, one of the most Tony apartment buildings in the city. And she's, I'm sure very proud of her huge spread with her terraces off the master bath and the living room, whatever. But she feels really bad for the laid off MSNBC workers. Maureen, don't judge.

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You'll never even feel it. You won't even know that that money's not hitting your bank account, but no, she just wants the credit for feeling bad for those poor laid off workers without actually having to sacrifice anything herself. And by the way, not for nothing, but the 25 million is for one day a week, one hour of television a week. And still she wants us to believe this.

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Like I'm deeply sad for everyone here. I, you know, I, I deserve every penny of my money, whatever. Okay, so back to Meghan Markle. Okay, I wanted to get to this part of my notes. I'll stand by. Hold on a second. News coming in. Oh, God. This just in. Season two is coming. No. Yes. No. Yes. If you're loving season one, Meghan put out on Insta,

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Just wait till you see the fun we cooked up in season two. Thanks for joining the party. An endless thanks to the amazing team and crew who helped bring it all to life with love. Megan. Okay, so wait, let me keep going. Okay, injury. It's like their fake car chase. And here's the part I wanted to get to in the midst of my notes.

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I wrote, the best part of watching this is picturing Maureen watching this.

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But it's also something about these girls on the cusp of womanhood. You know, these 13-year-old girls, like... like the song says, not a girl, not yet a woman, showing their stuff and like having the sass and the confidence to get up there in front of, you know, an auditorium full of people and singing their hearts out and nailing it. I have to tell you, it's just like so freaking uplifting.

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Did you notice that at the end of every episode, it says like the starring Megan, Duchess of Sussex. Yes. That's how she's billed. Yes. On the credits roll at the end, you know, stand alone. Nobody else is on the page, but Megan, Duchess of Sussex. Because they became Sussex when the queen died and Harry's dad became king. And that's when Lilibet and Archie became princess and prince.

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And I guess as a result, their last name is now no longer Mountbatten- Windsor. It's Meghan Sussex and Harry Sussex. I have no idea. And no, fucking Meghan, no one knew that. Like, why are you correcting? You know, you know it's Sussex. No, I don't know. Who knows that? Literally nobody knows that.

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My kids are on spring break for two weeks, so I'm gonna be traveling with them, but then we're gonna be, we're gonna do the AM update live all next week and the week after, and then this show will resume uh, the second week, but next week we have our Megan Kelly investigates the baby Lisa disappearance. And this is something I've been working on for three years.

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I don't know. Is he playing Minecraft? Sure. she's constantly on this show with my husband, you know, it drives me nuts. My husband, my husband, honestly, like I almost never refer to Doug like that. I don't know. It's like, well, my husband, it's like Doug, but she thinks like, it's not, it's not cool to say Harry. Cause it looks like she's going to be showing off.

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That's what, how a normal wife sounds. Right. The normal partner would say, Hey, Harry thinks this, right. No one would find that ostentatious. No. H sounds ostentatious. Um, and that's the other thing I noticed. Um, If you look at the first couple of episodes, every comment she makes is about herself. She's got her friend, Uncle Daniel's there.

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And then there's the Argentinian woman and then there's a chef she brings in and Mindy Kaling. So there are no questions or comments about them, except there's one in episode one and there's one in episode two. And if you go back and look at them, they're voiced over. Really?

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She clearly was told after the fact, you know, it might be nice if we kind of had you track like a question to Daniel about himself to set up that comment he made. And it's all voiceover. If anything she asks of the guest was laid in after the fact, you can see the break.

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It's like someone had to coach her on how to be a normal person who's an actual friend who has interest in something other than themselves.

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And then after the show, it was so cute because they let the girls come out in their costumes. And all the little girls who were there looked up to them like they were real Broadway stars, were asking for pictures with them. They were a little afraid of Yardley because she was Ursula. So the little ones were a little like, oh. And then they saw her big smile.

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Yes. Like her, her greenhouse where, you know, she just sits. All I could think was that must be actually so buggy in real life, but okay. So they go out there. Yes. Cause we all have several settings in our enormous, you know, football field size garden where like we can sit and have tea with our friends. It's all perfectly curated again and absolutely visually stunning.

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And the other thing about it is you have, there's so much to get to. We're You have such inanity happening in the conversation. These are not clever people. This is not like having tea with Maureen Callahan or Megyn Kelly. No, truly. And so everything is heavily produced with track, with soundtrack, you know, the light jazz, like the festive jazz playing.

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And so like they don't have to talk, which I'm sure the producers are like more track.

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And she was like, cue the lemon heads, whoever it was. She's like, cue the platters. I can't remember, forgive me. But then in comes the music while she's sifting the sugar. Your point about Mindy being like, no, but the person I hire does. Now, okay. Even I do not hire anybody to do my kids' birthdays and I have very few domestic bones in my body.

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The most I will hire is somebody to blow up the, like, you know, like a bouncy castle or whatever. Which is a professional thing. You need someone to do that. I don't know how to do that. And Doug's not handy. Handsy, but not handy. So you made this point in one of your articles on the Daily Mail. And I was like, that's exactly it. That's the moment you know who this show is for.

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Because I was watching the whole thing like, who is this for? Who is this appealing? And you said it's for the 1%. The 1% who was like, yes, my person does all of this. Or I was talking about this with my hairstylist, Sarah, and a friend of hers who came over.

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while I was watching some of this, and they were both saying, I'm like, maybe the women in this town will produce a birthday party like that or will make a meal like that. But I don't think so, because the women I know in this town are actually active moms. They are bringing their kids to school. They are making their own dinner. They don't have eight hours to freaking prepare that meal.

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They've got to do the household stuff. They've got to go to the grocery store. So who is it for? And one of the gals was saying, it's for...

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staff of women like that in like the next level communities where I guess everybody has a cook who can sit around all day watching Meghan Markle and her fancy chef show them how to parboil chicken and then brine chicken and then work for eight hours to make little chicken wings, which most of us making fried chicken would just stick in some Crisco.

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That's what everybody says. Yeah. Everybody who works for her quits. Everybody says she's a bully. She's very nasty. Not only is she incredibly controlling, but she's a bitch about it to everybody who works for her. When things inevitably start spiraling downward, she blames everyone but herself. Okay, wait, I wanted to rewind because there's so many points.

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She's big into these crudite boards, veggie and or fruit. And this was one of the most every, every mother out there will understand. She wants us to put together a fruit crudite board for our children in the morning. Look, Maureen. I can't. Look at this. I can't. I can't. It is huge.

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It starts with strawberries and then it has raspberries and then it has apricots and then it has mandarin oranges and then it has pineapples and then it has blueberries and then you finish it up with dollops of yogurt. Now, I literally, I want... I'd love to have a running clock and how long it would take me to go, let's do something fancy, Whole Foods, right? Where you get the true organic.

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To go and shop for, what's that, eight fruits? get all the fruits, get them home, wash them, let them dry up, cut them all up, cutting like teeny tiny apricot pieces up, not to mention pineapples, which is a pain in the ass. Oh, and then bananas too. I forgot she added those as well. And then laying them out.

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And she's like, if you don't have time to do this big thing, you can just do it like a single plate style. That alone with all I just said, with cutting and buying and cleaning and chopping would be probably an hour. My warning is like, here is a piece of toast. I am Martha Stewart. You're welcome. When my guest comes, I had a guest come over last night because they came to see me at the play.

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And I was my own Martha. I gave them a glass of water as they went to bed. You're welcome. I'm like hostess with the mostest. Who the hell is putting corn on the cob in the microwave to pop their own popcorn and making the bows and then doing the fruit platter extravaganza for their children?

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And she says, you know, because I'm a busy mom and this is how mornings are as I get the kids off to school. You're making fruit parfait crudités boards?

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Standby. Should we have this? I think they're saying we have this. So is this not six, you guys? We'll watch it.

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Yeah, totally. They're like, they've got it all in front of them. And like they're, these are, I really think like our future leaders, our future mothers, it's just like, there's so much promise there. They all did such a wonderful job. Every girl in her own way just had her own special thing. And the costume designer was amazing. The woman who ran the play, the director, all of them,

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You've never seen anything so beautiful and enormous. I laugh because, of course, she's got the French pressed coffee, you know, like the perfect everything. Literally this morning when our guests were here, I... I confess, I'm not even good at making coffee. I'm seriously bad in the kitchen. People know this about me. And normally, now Doug and I have a coffee maker in our bedroom now.

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That's how we start our day. But we do have one in the kitchen and now we had a guest. So I had to make the coffee down in the kitchen. And it's kind of a highfalutin coffee machine. I don't totally understand it, to be honest. I'll take a picture and I'll post it. Well, let's just say it didn't go well.

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I don't know how I screwed up making coffee, Maureen, but next thing I knew, it sounded like it was brewing. Next thing I knew, it started to bubble out of the part where you put the grinds in. It started to bubble out of the top, and I was like, whoa. So I pulled it, and hot coffee went all over with the ground, all over the counter and the floor. Oh, my God.

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Like I, so for some reason it didn't drip, it didn't drip into the carafe, but like, this is me. I'm looking at her in her white, her French press and her perfectly made donuts and her, you know, fruit crudités, whatever. And there I am, like, I can't even make a damn coffee. Now I realize most women are better than I am.

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But, and by the way, speaking of how I am, my team has apparently put together a little highlight reel of how, and I know I'm not alone. I am not the only woman who is this way, but just, just so you know what, full disclosure, this is how I am. Give it that. The more butter, the better. The more butter, the better.

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We're going to place those right in there. Oh, it's not going well already. I got rid of the skin. Oh, that's kind of gross. Put them in there. What's that? These are carrots.

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This was top quality. I'm telling you, this thing was like Broadway. So we did that. And Yardley had a friend who surprised her, her best friend from the summers where, you know, we go to the Jersey shore. She surprised her. And when Yardley saw her, her jaw literally dropped. They cried. We all came back to our house after that.

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When I'm serving breakfast and I want to make an omelet, how do I make it a flat white omelet instead of an enormous fluffy yellow omelet, which I don't like? Well, if you want white versus yellow, you take the yolks out.

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Oh, God. I'm getting called in for extra help. There was so many epic fails. There was one, I tried to like make a stuffed turkey. Yeah. And I had to take the stuff, like the stuff out of the turkey. It was, is that a video? Do you guys have a video of that? All right. Hang on. It's coming. My team is ready. They're ready for today. Watch it. It's a chicken.

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My hands are just kind of... It's disgusting. Look. Look. Look how gross it is. Ew.

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No, you and I are going to recreate the Meghan Markle extravaganza. It's happening. And rule number one, you will hear us actually ask a question of the other person that is about the other person that isn't all fishing for a compliment about one's self. Correct. We have a little SOT montage of that. Here's SOT 2.

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Look what I did for you. I got to set early. I made you this. This is exactly how I did it. I spared no expense. And did I mention my flower sprinkles, which are all over every episode as if any of us has the ability to make a fucking flower sprinkle jar. What is that? That's merchandise hawking. She wants us to go to her website and buy her stupid flower sprinkles, which is not a thing.

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All right, stand by. I have to take a quick break. We're not done, weirdly, but it's Friday. Let's have a fun. All right, stand by. Four years of crushing interest rates, runaway inflation, and reckless government spending, and who is paying the price? You are. You might have bills stacking up. You might have debt collectors on your back.

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Let's just say that there was too much champagne flowing too late in the evening for the grown-up half of this party. I am a slightly hungover. I'm not hungover. I'm just really tired. I only had one. But I'm tired, and I'm still on a high from the whole play. And then... I spent the morning watching that fucking Meghan Markle special, and it sobered me right up. Oh, oh, oh, I'm so sorry.

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Before you make another payment, consider a visit to donewithdebt.com or call 1-888-322-1054 right now. Speak with one of their debt relief strategists for free. Go to donewithdebt.com. That's donewithdebt.com. One of the great things is she talks about gift bags for children. And she's like, you know, parents really love a gift bag for a child. Okay.

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Parents may love when their children receive one. I don't know those parents. Most of us are like, why did you give my child all these things that they could choke on? And that's just going to clog up my non-existing junk drawers. But she's she claims parents love it. And by the way, it is the gift bags are the bane of my existence. Thank God my children have aged out of that phase of life.

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But I I object to them on a fundamental level. I have invited you to my child's party. You know, we got a bouncy castle. I gave you cake and a ton of pizza and like maybe a magician, whatever you do. Why are you getting anything more than that? You give me a gift. My kid gets a gift. I don't have to give you a gift. Why am I giving your kid a gift? I gave him all his entertainment.

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I took him for the afternoon. I plunged him full of food and good times. And then on top of it, I have to give him a present? It makes no sense. This is another thing for the host of the birthday party to have to do. So I'm against them. Of course she's not. And... So she talks about how to prepare the perfect gift bag for your child and your child's friends. And here is a bit of that.

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And then she does her calligraphied name tags and little mini bees as an homage to her beehive on every bag.

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So little garden tools, I'm like, your one toddler would use that against the other toddlers like that. Next thing you know, somebody's lost an eye.

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Dig deep and you'll find it. There was a line there that I was like, what did they just say? It was Daniel, sweet Daniel, who said something about that cake, which I actually wrote down because I was like, what? That was like subversive. Hold on a second. Oh, she's an all white. The cake. First of all, he apologizes for having to taste something that they were making together.

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And you can see she shoots him a look like. Oh, he snuck a taste of the jam.

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The preserves. Off of a spoon that she had given him that he was supposed to use to spoon it like into the, I don't know.

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It's no problem. I'll get you another one. Another scene, she drops a blueberry and she's like, Oh, dropped a blueberry. Okay. Calm down. You're fine. Hold on. He says, Oh, about the cake. You just don't know how good she is until you cut her open. I'm like, Whoa, what's going on there? And then I made a mark. I will have jazz piano playing while serving all cake in the future. Like, okay.

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Nobody does that. But yeah, the little kids' party favors were ridiculous. No parent of a... She's got toddlers, very young kids. It's going to give their kids those mini sharp tools. By the time you get them home, someone will have lost a body part. Okay, here's the other problem for me in this. She gave an interview to People Magazine.

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And in the People Magazine article, she says she loves building this... safe haven and show with her daughter, um, as part of her as ever brand. And she says, being able to have my own little girl, as I've spent so much of my life championing the rights of girls and women, and to be able to see this as a multi-generational story, Archie is of course included in that.

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My, my husband is of course included in that story. But I love the heritage feeling of it and knowing this is something that I can create in front of my daughter and teach her what it's like to be a working mom. This is not what it's like to be a working mom. What it's like to be a working mom is to come downstairs with no makeup on. You're barely out of your pajamas and you're like, did you eat?

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Let's go. You're late. Get your backpack. Come on. If you do this again, I'm not bringing it to you at school. Let's go. Right. Get some, grab anything. Doesn't matter what the sugar content is. That, this is such a farce. Nevermind dinner. Like I was saying, you know, it's like this guy comes, some professional chef, you're making the multi-sauced chicken wings.

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It's like, as you point out, you want chicken wings. There's only one way we all get chicken wings. We all fucking order chicken wings. That's what we do.

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The deep hug. Wasn't it her special? It was their first Netflix special, I thought. Perhaps. Remember she was like, and we donate a backpack or we give food out of our curated backpacks to random homeless people on the way to school.

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Well, how about she's talking about how she, she goes to yoga now. And, um, that was in, oh, that was on Drew, Drew Barrymore. Is that a soundbite? Do we have that? Oh, it was people? Okay, I can't keep track of it. Yeah, but she's talking about how she goes to yoga classes that sometimes have 40 to 50 people in them now. And then I just walk in like, hi, she says laughing.

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Of course, at the beginning, that felt like a lot, a lot. By the way, I think anyone walking into a yoga class with 50 people and everyone looks up, it's going to feel a little uncomfortable, but now I love it. It's the best. I had missed it. Okay. So she's just, you know, it's a lot for her to go into the yoga class when everybody looks up at her. She loves it.

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This is why she wanted to partner with Harry. So she would become as famous as Harry and be the darling of the world. But now she wants us to see that it's a burden for her until she could really get over this ostracizing fame and be seen as a woman of the people. And now she's accepted. Okay, no one believes that. Mm-hmm. And then she goes on. Okay. Then she goes on Drew Barrymore and she, okay.

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I want to get my, my thoughts together. She talks about, uh, okay. This is the moment sought eight that we want to, we want to see let's play it.

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Okay, so again, this is not how any normal working mom... She's not a working mom. What is she working at? She's done this special, and she did that other lame podcast, like 12 episodes. That's it. Someone does all the work. Literally, somebody has bought the Le Creuset. Somebody has prepared the chicken. Someone has cut the vegetables and the fruit for her.

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She hasn't touched a thing, except for those probably two hours a day she's on camera to do these ridiculous... faux photo shoots. But somehow I found time to record myself reading a thin book to the children. This is ridiculous, Maureen.

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I we're going to have more on this later, but I'm excited, excited to bring this to you. We want it like we could have had it over this Christmas break and it wasn't quite ready. I wanted it to be even better. And I love it. I love where it is now. And I think you guys are going to love it too. But I got, okay, there's a lot going on. First of all, it's such a great Friday.

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Oh, you see the jaw set? We got to show it. Okay, so Mindy Kaling. First, episode one, I just want to say this observation before we get to that. So what I observed was episode one was her makeup artist, right?

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Well, that's that's that's the other thing. Can I just say, like, you're watching her. She made such a big deal out of like her race and the royal family's racism. And everybody's worried about how brown the babies are allegedly going to be, which, of course, you know, turned out to be bullshit because then Harry walked it all back. But I'm like, this person looks whiter than I am. Like how?

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And she even said when her race became like it was never an issue. She never thought of herself as black. Right. But then when it became convenient, when we had Black Lives Matter and George Floyd, that now suddenly she's leaning into her black lineage as though she's really suffered the American story. It's that's a bullshit lie, too. Where's the soul food on the show?

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OK, so that's enough of her because it was fun, but we have to move on. Um, yeah, that's what they said, by the way, just to put some, uh, some more details to that New York post page six reporting. She's been dropped by WME, Ari Emanuel's agency. WME says it is still working with her, but in very benign vanilla terms.

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So I actually believe the report, all they said was WME continues to represent Megan and Archwell. Now, there would be more, typically, if you had a report that was that wrong. Yeah. Because the report by Page Six is very detailed, saying an insider said she was let go, she was too demanding, she is difficult to work with.

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They talked about that outburst in January of 2024, right after the holidays, demanding a meeting, expected decks and plans. Unclear if this is for herself or Archwell, but... This led to a dispute. Ari Emanuel was done with her. The incident was confirmed by yet another source.

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And yet another Hollywood source told us, quote, I don't know what those projects are, but WME is definitely not working on Megan's personal business. So this is what happens to her wherever she goes. People wind up distancing herself because she's annoying and she's a bully and she's highly unpleasant. And as they said in the London Times in a

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February 6th article, quote, she had a Messiah complex. According to one of the couple's former staffers, she was focused on how she could become the best known and most loved member of the royal family. And when she realized she couldn't, she peaced out. Okay. American royalty, Alec Baldwin and Hilaria, or is that Spanish royalty? Unclear. I don't know.

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So like, that's somebody who works, works for you. You know, like it's fine. You can become friends with your makeup artist and I'm friends with my hairstylist, but this guy was an employee of hers for all of her past. And while they were like, he's so close, the children call him uncle Daniel. There was a moment where he was like, oh, your wedding cake, that reminds me of your wedding cake.

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When everybody was looking elsewhere, they decided to launch a reality show of their own, which is just so weird, given the fact that the biggest thing he's been in the news for has been killing a woman. It seems like kind of odd timing. Um, but here's just a little taste of the show. Um, she was asked about her fake accents, which is a good thing to be asked about. And here's what she said.

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Okay, no one ever gave her a hard time for mixing the two. People who are truly fluent in two languages sometimes will mix a word in here. Right. It's pretending that you forgot your English words that we've given, like this famous, infamous video. It's just six seconds, not 20.

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And he's like, I tasted your wedding cake. And I was like, that's a weird thing to say. Who says that? And the reason he said that, it soon became clear, was because he went to the tasting with her to actually try out the wedding. He did not go to the wedding. Her dear friend, Uncle Daniel. That's a great observation. Very clearly wasn't invited to her wedding. I just assumed he was.

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Totally. I think... Look, she's a very odd person. I don't know of another person who pretends they're from another country. That's a strange thing to do. It really is. And she's done it repeatedly. If this is how the series is going to be, where she gets away with not actually addressing the thing, it's going to fail, right? The only way these things work is if...

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You actually press somebody on the controversy and then they say the truth and you have some fun at their expense. That's why the Real Housewives actually work because they're not spared anything. And there's real stakes. Yeah. So here, just because we're on the subject and I love it, here she is in January, 2023. It is more than mixing English and Spanish. She is all American.

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Again, she's from a very nice suburb of Boston and went to a Tony private school there and is not in any way from Spain. OK, she grew up speaking English. Here she is in Sat 21.

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Get out of the frame. She, of course, is. I mean, she she would come on The Today Show all the time trying to promote whatever. Like there you saw her doing her cooking. She's just like Meghan Markle trying to build like a lifestyle brand. What's that? Deb W. W. Canadian Debbie's recommending something. Let's watch it. It's not 15.

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No, why else would you be like, oh, I remember tasting the cake. And the way they were talking about it was clear, like, that was his one shot at the cake. Uncle Daniel is clearly a prop brought in who had to be nice to her because she was paying him. And then she's like, remember... I was lost in the wilderness. That was when I only had an agent. I didn't have a PR person. Oh, yeah.

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So Alec has been stressed out by the Helena Hutchins situation. That's what she wants us to know. So do we believe that it's the stress around that? I mean, I'm sure he was because he was facing criminal charges, which is stressful. But, you know, when you saw him like in his public interviews, he was very defiant. You know, he wasn't like, please forgive me.

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My God, this is so he was defiant and angry. So this must be a rehabilitation show, right? Like where they're trying to soften us on him.

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No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I never pulled the trigger. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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Didn't have a manager. Yeah. I was a real woman of the people back then with just my heavy, high-powered agent. And I used to call you for tips like, what's hot? What's on trend? What's on trend in the makeup department? We're supposed to be relating to her.

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Yeah. Yep. I have a friend whose daughter has it bad. Really? And it can be inherited. And I actually wonder because I don't have OCD, but I used, like when I was at my most stressed out as a lawyer.

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I was doing an OCD thing of obsessively counting. I would count every footstep. And especially when it came to stairs, I couldn't go up stairs without counting them, no matter how many stairs. So you could be quietly like at the Duomo and somebody would just look over and be like, how many? And I'd have the exact number. It was like a stress... coping mechanism.

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And then as soon as I got, and then that's, that's actually the reason I first got into therapy back when I was a lawyer. Like I think I'm managing stress poorly. And once I did do talk therapy, it kind of went away. It still comes back a little, like I, I do count in my head. Like if you get me on numbers, like I'll just keep doing them like in sequences.

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So I think a lot of people, and I did read someplace that a lot of very successful people have some form of OCD. Yeah.

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Of course it would be. Who else would spend that number of hours in the backyard with a soccer ball, you know, doing the kick over and like they show just over and over and over, like the amount of times you have to do it in order to become David Beckham, right? I don't know. So- That's interesting because I have never had real anxiety.

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She's just like us with her agent and her makeup artist calling for what's on trend to Uncle Daniel, who clearly will not be invited to the actual wedding. So that's number one. Then we get to number two, where Mindy Kaling comes on, who also is not a friend. Agreed. She came on her podcast, like archetypes. And that's when they met, which was what, two years ago?

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You know, we've talked about this before, but I'll get tired, you know, I'll definitely get tired, but I kind of see them as opposites, you know, like being like wired, you know, like being torqued up. I'm rarely that way. I'm more like, I need a nap. But then I can I tell you, I went out to one of those conferences and they gave me in the like gift bag.

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What is that stuff called that I was just taking? It was everybody's taking it. I'll get you. I'll get a picture of it. But it's supposed to be like this new thing for people over 50. It's like it's supposed to bring you energy and keep you young. And I was just like in my gift bag like an idiot. I started taking it. I'm like, I'll give it a try. And it did make me feel more energetic.

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And I have been sleeping so poorly for the past three weeks. It just dawned on me. It's probably this damn random bottle of supplements that I just started. And I just stopped taking it. And I've been sleeping like a baby.

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Well, two different things. So if I'm working too much and doing like no self-nurturing, I'll just get unhappy. Like I'll notice I'm not happy. There's not enough joy in my day. I haven't like laughed enough and whatever. I'm feeling cranky, you know? So that's number one.

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But when I'm truly stressed, like I'm thinking back to the post-NBC period, like at the immediate period where it was genuinely stressful. Like I felt truly bad stress, the kind that gives you cancer, that kind. And it was the only time in my life where I seriously considered an antidepressant.

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but I wouldn't because I was like, there is no fucking way. Andy lack is getting me on an antidepressant. I refuse. And I didn't do it. And I know it's a weird thing to have a personal point of pride on, but I do, you know, I just feel like he never broke me. He, he kicked me. I was down, but I didn't stay down. And I got back up on my own. You ever, um, but that, that stress was, um,

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manifested in obsessive thinking. Interesting. Where like, you just, you can think of nothing else, even though you have these beautiful children around you. And of course my life was still grand and wonderful and Doug and great friends. And you do find out in those moments who your friends are, which is another blessing. Yes.

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But still obsessive thinking where like, you can't think about anything else. And this is, you know, this is damaging.

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Sometimes. I mean that I agree when it's big, you must, there's no way forward without feeling it for a while and having a good cry and feeling sorry for yourself for a couple of days.

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But only a couple. And then you got to pick yourself up, touch yourself off and move forward. But yeah, On the smaller things in my life, I've now become such a big fan of cognitive behavioral therapy. I was going to ask you if you had done that. I spend almost no time mired in the badness now. Like if somebody's whatever attacking me or something bad happens in my life, like I acknowledge it.

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I understand what's happening. And then I focus not at all. And I will say, I know it's controversial. but this is something Scientology does very well. This is interesting. All cults have their positives. Yeah. Yeah. This is something about Scientology that I admire. They're very, you know, you get labeled a suppressive person, an SP. Yes. And you can't like, I knew a Scientologist pretty well.

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So this is not some lifelong bud thing. So Mindy Kaling comes and they clearly didn't know each other. You could see there was an awkwardness.

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And this person decided they didn't like me. And this person told everybody around them to never mention my name to this person. Like I was dead to them. And I get the logic, you know, it's like, I'm just going to cut this person out of my life in every way I can so that I don't have to be irritated by them anymore.

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And so, well, I didn't really care about this person's fondness for me or not, but I'm like, I kind of get it. And that's kind of what I do. Right. I don't have to think about you at all if you're bothering me. I can just think about, I have so many other things I can think about.

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And I've told my audience this before, but if it's like a earworm, I have a song I always use that gets the earworm out of my ear. Really? And it's a catchy song that's not an earworm itself. It's the song Up on the Roof. I'll have to use this. And I will sometimes use that to rejigger the negative thinking about whatever, somebody who's on my nerves or something bad that's happening in my life.

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I don't know. Something about that song works for me. It's not about like, I just love that song. It's just, it rejiggers things. When this old world starts getting you down and people are just too much for me to take up on the roof. You know that song? I know that song. Yeah, it works. I don't know. It could be anything for you.

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Is it hard for you to move on? Like when you lose a friend? It was harder in my twenties. I lost a friend recently. You did? Over politics. And... It was an upsetting evening where I was like, whoa, what's happening here? And then I had to tell you the next day I was over it. Amazing. Yeah, because I was like, this person has shown me who they are.

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I've received new information, which is this person prizes politics over our friendship. And I didn't know that prior to last night. So that's a gift for me to know. And this is not the right person for me because I am a very political person now, you know, I'm a very opinionated kind of can't avoid my opinions if you're online, you know, and following me on any social media.

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So that's not the one for me. I, I, I'm very good at moving on from people who, you know, wind up not to be for me.

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I had somebody say, we did a friendship special over this past summer. It was great. Steve, find out the episode for me, will you? And she said, the average friendship lasts seven years. Really? And I thought that was really interesting. Cause if you kind of look at your life, that, that tracks for me, like you kind of go through different phases.

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You have some people who will make it the whole duration and that's a gift, but like seven years, that makes some sense. Um, and I don't know, it's just like if a relationship ends because of an argument, you know, because somebody's passed a very negative judgment on you or the things that are important to you, it's like, Oh, okay. Bye.

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You know, like that it's not sad because you're losing something that's not good to have in your life anyway, that isn't the valuable thing you thought it was. There could be some disappointment around, oh, I was wrong about having this special thing. Right. But like the disappointment shouldn't be around losing that because you never had it.

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No, because I always say like, I have tons of liberal friends, tons, but we just don't talk politics. And that's how we keep a friendship. Like I don't need them to believe as I do. And they don't need me to believe as they do. But I think this particular person is definitely of the left and has been in New York city for a while getting talked up,

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by her leftist friends about me because they see me much more aligned with Trump now. And so for some people, like I was an acceptable option when I was adverse to Trump, but on the right. But pro-Trump on the right is a special category of problem.

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And, you know, there are definitely campaigns, I think, for some of my leftist friends amongst their friends for like, why would you be friends with her? Why? You know, she's she's doing the devil's work out there being friends with Trump. Now, if that works on you, are you really my friend to begin with? Like, no, my true friends would be like, don't be absurd. You don't know her.

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But the ones that that would work on, yes, that's new information. That shouldn't be somebody I should be sharing my secrets with anyway.

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And then you like, you don't have to get rid of them, but you've got to put them in a different category for sure. Right. Because it's like, that's not somebody you're going to share your most intimate thoughts and vulnerabilities with.

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Right. Like, you got to have your guard up with that person, which you don't with friends. So like that's, there's a betrayal in there because when you're with friends, you don't have your guard up. It's your full, most vulnerable. Exactly. You're showing your belly for sure. Exactly. And so then you can't get hit professionally.

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You can't get hit for, you know, who you are in your professional life or judged for it when you're, you know, sharing the things that you're insecure about or, you know, your health stuff or your kids stuff, whatever.

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That was the one thing. There was an episode, I think, four, where she had two friends come over who were supposedly longer friends in her life. I don't buy it. There was none of the, like... I don't know.

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It's weird, but like sort of almost grooming and body language that will appear between two very lifelong friends where like, you're just looking out for the other, you're making sure everything's good. Right. You make references to like longstanding jokes. Right. There's a familiarity there. I just don't buy it. That's why George Clooney was at her wedding. You know, she didn't have family.

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She didn't have lifelong friends. It appears even Daniel wasn't there. It's she's not even for a touch up. Everything is artifice. Yeah. You know, like the show is artifice. Her life is artifice. And that's why like this deep insecurity is all about. I have no friends. I have no people. I only have the next station to reach. And therefore you can't have the fucking blueberry fall on the floor.

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Totally. Like I just threw this on. I don't know how I got to be wearing this entirely cashmere white outfit.

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You can't have the white outfit, get a spec on it. You know, everything has to be absolutely. Daniel cannot have a spoonful of the jam before it's time. Yeah. Even though it's a joyful act, is it not?

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speaking of relationships, Maureen, more fuel on the fire that there's a potential, maybe a divorce or some sort of rockiness going on in the Obama's relationship. They both posted these mirrored, very choreographed Valentine's day messages on X, but he was just seen at an LA, uh, whatever that it's the other, the basketball team, um, What's it called? I can't remember the name. The Clippers.

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Thank you. Game Without Her. And yeah, the LA Clippers. And then with Steve Ballmer, who's the owner, who he's been on this show. And then on Tuesday, he was spotted eating out at a fancy dinner in Sherman Oaks with both daughters, Malia and Sasha, but again, no Michelle, according to TMZ. So...

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Well, when I first saw that he was seen at a basketball game without her, I'm like, well, that's no big deal. Doug would go to a basketball game without me all the time. I would I would say go without me. But then when I heard, then he went on to meet with their daughters. Like there was, I mean, you know how it is.

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Like every parent who's got girls who are in college is like dying to spend time with their daughters. And so this is an opportunity to see both of them and she's not there. So I don't know why, but this just keeps happening. And that Valentine's day message was so ridiculously. And like I said, choreographed here was the here was what they wrote.

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Um, this is the last public acknowledgement of each other. Uh, she wrote, if there's one person I can always count on, it's you at Barack Obama. You're my rock. Always have been, always will be happy Valentine's day, honey. And then he wrote 32 years together and you still take my breath away. Happy Valentine's day at Michelle Obama. It just doesn't feel organic at all. It reads bloodlessly.

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So these are truthful statements, but you have to look beyond what you're actually seeing. I like that. And hers, if there's one person I can always count on, it's you. Yeah.

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Now we've really gone deep. All right. I got to leave it there. I want to tell the audience before we go, please, please, please look out for our special series. It starts on Monday. It's Megan Kelly Investigates. It'll be on all the platforms at the same times and all that.

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And we take a deep dive into this fascinating case of a baby, Lisa Irwin, who went missing in the middle of the night out of her crib in Kansas City, Missouri. We've been working on this project for you for three years and it launches Monday. Thank you. Have a great weekend, Maureen. Thank you as well. Thank you, Megan. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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What say you now? Who, me? No, it was amazing. Here's actually part of that where Mindy asked her about her look. Let's watch it, stop four, and then we'll get to the big moment.

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And she is the most insecure person I have seen in the Everything had to be perfectly curated. It was like, that's the biggest absurdity of this whole thing was just how over the top perfect everything has to be around her. Her outfit. I mean, who the hell picks fucking berries in a white cashmere dress? Blouse and white pants. Literally no one on earth does that.

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And like this garden, which is like the most over the top. Like we're all supposed to go Maureen to make our breakfast in the morning out to our gardens, which are the size of Shea Stadium. and pick our berries, our raspberries, our strawberries, our blueberries, our snozzberries, and cut our mint, and then cut our flowers that are edible. But don't worry, she's a woman of the people.

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You can grow those just on your windowsill at home in New York, your edible flowers. And don't forget your local wax, what, beekeeper. Yeah. your local beekeeper. Oh yeah. Cause she has a bee hive, which she goes, that's how they opened the whole series with her, with her bees. And like, don't worry if you don't have this, just go to your local beekeeper, which I Googled.

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I was like, just for kicks. I'm like, what local beekeeper? And everything that came up was the people who will kill bees in my, in my, like if you have a beehive and you want to get rid of it here, like to 20 people who will kill it. There you go. Absolutely. Clearly we're living in different, In different worlds. Do you have a chicken coop? No chickens, no. Just the dead ones in the freezer.

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Well, same thing with her dog and everybody else's dog. The one friend comes who's Harry's friend's wife from polo. Oh, this one. So relatable. So some woman from Argentina who's married to Harry's polo player friend shows up. Again, not really a Meghan Markle friend.

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And for her dog, Megan makes some sort of biscuits, which, of course, have only the organic materials and everything has to be mixed just so. And then she's making the bacon because, you know, the dog's just going to love it if it has a little bacon in it. And, you know, she eats bacon all the time, she wants you to know, in her house.

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Yeah. Yeah. Um, but here was the other thing. When you talk about the chick Nick, I wrote this down just from the episodes I watch. She's got this little like verbal tick she does where she's big into like rhyming or making these weird little plays on words that I think she thinks are very clever. Like the first episode they're putting, uh, peas in a little pod, she and her makeup artist.

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And they're like, they look like little green pearls, green pearls, green pearls, green pearls, girls. Okay. Then there was the honey pouring it into her tea. Honey, honey, honey, honey. Then they were cheersing their champagne with her little marmalade addition. Okay. Cheers, dear. Cheers, dear. Then there was it's darling and delicious. Darling and delicious.

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Then there was the tea following the champagne detox and then retox. And then there was working hard over there. Working hard or hardly working?

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Code MK to get 40% off your first box and a free item of your choice for life. Hungryroot.com slash MK. Code MK. President Trump pausing some tariffs on Mexico until April 2nd when reciprocal tariffs kick in for everyone. All Mexican goods under the U.S.-Mexico-Canada trade agreement signed under the first Trump administration to replace NAFTA granted reprieve.

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President Trump posting to Truth Social, quote, I did this as an accommodation and out of respect for President Scheinbaum. Our relationship has been a very good one, and we are working hard together on the border, both in terms of stopping illegal aliens from entering the United States and likewise stopping fentanyl. The market's continuing to slide in reaction to the back and forth actions.

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President Trump temporarily pausing some tariffs on Mexico, but promising the relief stops for every country come April 2nd. China publicly challenges Trump's tariff threats, but what's really happening behind the scenes?

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President Trump reacting to the market drop from the Oval.

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Democrats highly critical of the tariffs, arguing the economic uncertainty is harming their constituents.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Friday, March 7th, 2025, and this is your AM Update.

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Public support for tariffs falling along party lines. An Economist YouGov poll showing 68% of Republicans support a 25% tariff on Mexico versus only 11% of Democrats. On CNBC, Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick pressed about the seemingly chaotic thinking of the White House. First, the tariffs were announced, then paused, then implemented, now paused again in some capacity.

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Mr. Lutnick telling NBC this month it's all about fentanyl. But beginning April 2nd, attention turns to busting down trade barriers throughout the world, especially with China. At the Economic Club of New York, Treasury Secretary Scott Besson laying out the fuller strategy with President Trump's upcoming tariff wars.

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California Governor Gavin Newsom breaking ranks with Democrats, calling boys' and girls' sports unfair. Is the sudden dose of common sense a sign of larger political ambitions? Texas Congressman Al Green censured for his outburst, but that's not the end of the story. Dozens of other Democrats now at risk of losing their committee assignments.

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The popular argument against the Trump tariffs, even from right-wing economists, is there are attacks on American consumers and increased costs on American businesses. Economist Vance Ginn, who worked in the OMB in the first Trump administration, said, writing in the Courier-Journal, quote, a trade deficit is not a sign of economic weakness.

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It reflects strong capital inflows and consumer purchasing power. Trying to fix it with tariffs only distorts markets and raises costs. President Trump argues that global free trade doesn't really exist because countries like China with authoritarian governments don't play fair. More from Secretary Besson.

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The U.S. is the largest importer in the world, purchasing $4.1 trillion worth of goods and services last year from everywhere else. Mr. Trump believes the U.S. can leverage that massive purchasing power to force other countries to bend to his will. Americans have a lot of money to spend. If you want access to this market, you either deal with a tariff or build your factory here.

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Publicly, the Chinese are responding to tariff threats with bravado. A Chinese foreign ministry spokesman saying late Tuesday, if war is what the U.S. wants, be it a tariff war, a trade war, or any other type of war, we're ready to fight to the end. The Wall Street Journal reporting behind the scenes, China's worried they can't win a trade war.

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The Journal writing, quote, the vision haunting Xi is one where China finds itself cut off by trade restrictions and sanctions, suffering Soviet-style isolation with fewer outlets for its goods and limited access to crucial technologies. China's economy depends on U.S. demand. Last year, the U.S. imported $439 billion worth of goods from China, one of their top sources of revenue.

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Losing that access would not just hurt, it could destabilize China's economic foundation, and that's what President Trump is gambling on. Coming up, California Governor Gavin Newsom bucks his party and actually agrees that biological males playing against girls in sports is unfair. What? What's behind this sudden dose of common sense?

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And the censure of Texas Congressman Al Green may only be the start of the fallout resulting from his outburst at President Trump's joint address. You might've heard about the new brand called XXXY Athletics. They're the only athletic brand that is standing up for women's sports. It was founded by former elite gymnast and longtime Levi's executive, Jennifer Say.

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Jennifer was the first gymnast to speak out about the abuse in women's gymnastics. And then she pushed back on lockdowns and closed schools during COVID. And for that, she was canceled by corporate America. So she started her own brand, XXXY Athletics. And this is the only athletic brand that actually knows men cannot become women. Amazing. And the fight is not over, folks.

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California Governor Gavin Newsom breaking ranks with fellow Democrats on the debate over transgender participation in sports. The governor, joined by conservative Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk in the first episode of his new podcast, weighing in on the issue.

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The governor's policies when it comes to so-called trans children have been downright radical. Last week, every single Senate Democrat voted against advancing the Protection of Women and Girls in Sports Act, a bill banning men's participation in women's sports. A January New York Times poll shows 70 percent of Democrats are against allowing biological males into women's leagues.

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House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, who also voted against the bill, stumbled in his response to Governor Newsom's new stance.

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Reaction from Governor Newsom's fellow Democrats ranging from anger to disappointment. A joint statement from the leaders of the California Assembly and State Senate LGBTQ Caucus saying, quote, we woke up profoundly sickened and frustrated by these remarks. It's not the first time in recent weeks the governor rejected far left policies.

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In February, Mr. Newsom vowed to veto a bill banning California prisons from cooperating with ICE. The moderate pivot leaving many suspicious that Governor Newsom is eyeing a title bump come 2028. Democrat Congressman from Texas, Al Green, officially censured by the House of Representatives for his outburst during President Trump's joint address.

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Ten Democrats joining with Republicans to reprimand the Congressman in a final vote of 224 to 198. Just ten Democrats. Once the censure resolution is passed, the offending party is to stand before the chamber while the resolution is read. A group of several dozen Dems staging a protest of their own.

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That cacophony drowning out Speaker Johnson, an attempt at singing the civil rights anthem, We Shall Overcome. Congressman Greene standing front and center, waving his cane like a conductor. Speaker Johnson banging the gavel multiple times, eventually forced to call a recess.

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In response, Republican Congressman from Tennessee, Andy Ogles, filing a resolution to remove participating Democrats from their committee assignments. Mr. Ogles posting on X, quote, if you want to act like a child in the halls of Congress, you will be treated like a child.

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The House Freedom Caucus filing a similar resolution against Congressman Greene, seeking to oust him from his committee assignments as well. A vote on that is expected next week. The speaker has not yet commented. liberal darling Lin-Manuel Miranda pulling musical Hamilton from its upcoming run at the Kennedy Center.

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The move comes in response to President Trump's dismissal of the entire board and his naming of staunch ally Rick Grenell as its interim executive director. Mr. Grinnell tasked with ensuring the Kennedy Center promotes values aligning with the America First vision. Mr. Miranda, along with lead producer Jeffrey Seller, telling the New York Times the show must not go on.

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Mr. Seller stating, quote, it became untenable for us to participate in an organization that had become so deeply politicized. The Kennedy Center opening in 1971 to serve as the National Cultural Center of the U.S., In 2024, there were at least three drag events hosted in the space. In 2019, the center named Mark Bamuthi Joseph vice president and artistic director of Social Impact.

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In 2017, prior to that appointment, the Kennedy Center commissioned Mr. Joseph to write the play Pelota. The Boston Globe called that show, quote, a poetic and impassioned meditation on race, on racism, and on the experience of immigration. Rick Grinnell responding to Lin-Manuel Miranda on X, quote, this is a publicity stunt that will backfire.

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It's clear he and Seller don't want Republicans going to their shows. Americans see you, Lin. And that'll do it for your AM Update. I'm Megyn Kelly. Join me back here for The Megyn Kelly Show live on SiriusXM Triumph Channel 111 at Noon East, on YouTube.com slash Megyn Kelly, and on all podcast platforms.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Megan Kelly. Welcome to The Megan Kelly Show and happy Friday. We're going into Super Bowl weekend, everybody. I told you Doug and I are going to go. This is the first time we've ever been. We were invited by the CEO of YouTube and we said yes. I met him when I was in Washington for the inauguration.

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Well, the other question is, in California, exactly what... program, what college program are they funneling these trans students into? Because the NCAA came out after Trump's executive order saying we will comply 100%. Boys are no longer welcome to play in girls sports under the moniker trans. Sorry, but we're complying.

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And they seem to me relieved to finally have had somebody at the federal level give very clear guidance before it was Okay, let each individual sport decide whether it's fair or not. You could see that these athletic organizations like the NCAA were tying themselves in knots, trying not to be the one to say we want a blanket ban.

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I think Abby will correct me. I think it's might be one of those is going to have to drop later in the day.

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I mean, within two seconds, this guy said, yeah, we'll do what Trump said. So think of it. You're out in California. You're on a girls' volleyball team. Half the team is boys posing as girls, and the college recruiters come. Well, guess what? Not a single one of those boys is going to be able to play college volleyball for girls. Not a single one. So what does that mean?

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Are they more likely to go visit your team? I would venture to say no. They're actually probably not that interested in you because they know you're mostly boys, not girls, and they're out recruiting for girls. And what happens to those trans kids, those so-called trans kids? Nothing. They won't be playing college athletics if they don't do something to just activate a lane for trans people.

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That's what they should be working on, a meaningful lane for trans people to play sports in their own lane, or they can play as what they are, biological boys. But instead, we have this defiance, which makes them feel good, Victor, but sets no one up for success.

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Yeah. 6 p.m. Steve Krakauer tells me because we got to fly back that day. Anyway, we'll talk in a minute about what Trump is saying about the Super Bowl because he's going to, and I'm actually hoping I'm going to be able to see him while he's there. And what the ads, because you always get the preview of the ads that they're going to drop, what they tell us about where America is in 2025.

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I agree. Oh, I love what you said. It's like the fever broke. That's how it feels. Yes, it does. We're all in this horrible, sick period, and now the fever broke, and we're out, and we can live normally. Yeah. But there's hangers-on who enjoyed the fever, the ones who love misery. They're miserable, and they want you to be too. And most of them are at MSNBC and CNN.

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And so you can see them holding on to the last vestiges of wokeism, like, no, I won't let it go. It made me feel superior and better than you. And I'm going to give you a couple of examples of that just to prove my point. I'll start on CNN, where a trans-athlete activist named Chris Mosier – had the following to say in Sat 13.

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I mean, it's very telling and it's very interesting. Gosh, there's so many punctuations on storylines we've all been talking about together for the past couple of years. It's just such an inflection point right now in our society with Trump taking over in the two weeks. Everything's on fire in a great way, unless you're a leftist, in which case you're still crying in your soup. I can't help you.

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Never happened. Look at Leah Thomas towering, towering over his competitor. I can't, is that Riley? I can't even tell. Yeah, that is Riley Gaines with whom he tied for fifth place in that infamous race in which they let him hold the trophy, not her. But look at this guy. I mean, he's, look at this, Victor. This is from the NCAA championships a couple years ago. He's towering over them.

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He was in the 500s in his ranking as a male the previous season. He crossed over to female. They let him play without doing anything. And he dominated. He won. He was in first place in many of these races. Just not for nothing. But female athletes have lost nearly 900 medals to transgender rivals competing against them in women's sport.

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According to the United Nations, the study called Violence Against Women and Girls in Sports stated that more than 600 female athletes have been bested at various events by competitors born male. let's say 600 in four and more than 400 competitions have lost more than 890 medals in 29 different sports.

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And yet CNN wants to let this person get on there and say, there's no evidence that trans athletes have an advantage over any, I mean, our eyes belie the claim. So why would CNN do that? Victor? Why are, why are they doing that? Right. They can't let go.

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So there's another example I want to show you while we're on the subject of CNN. I could be doing this all day on MSNBC too, but CNN at least is trying to claim that they're more fair and balanced, which is not true. Um, they're really not letting go of the race thing. So they've got this show on hosted by Abby Phillip, who is as woke as they come on every issue.

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She thinks she's downtrodden poor her, uh, because she's a black woman and therefore we're supposed to be, be feeling sorry for her. She made that very clear in a segment the other night, but she makes it clear in pretty much all of her segments. So this is a segment in which she had on two black women as guests and She is a black woman and two white men as well, along with one white woman.

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Oh, well, anyway. Um, and they're, they're, they're getting really upset about the spending cuts. You know, we're, we're going to have a guest, a first time guest on the show today named Mike Solana. He's after VDH who's up first. He's the editor in chief of a publication called pirate wars.

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And the two white men are names that our audience probably knows. Scott Jennings, who's the only fair guy over there on CNN and a Republican, and our pal Arthur Idalla, who's a lawyer. I mean, he doesn't often do political commentary, but he's doing some over on CNN. He got completely ambushed. I mean, honestly, all these women are extremely successful.

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You would have thought that it was 1949 America, the way this thing went down. Watch this.

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It's incredibly frustrating to watch that kind of thing, Victor. I mean, I guarantee Abby Phillip was out there just as bad as the other two. I guarantee you she's making over a million dollars. And yet she's still, like Michelle Obama, wants us to think this is a racist, sexist country that won't reward her adequately for her talents. And then you got this other girl over there.

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And he, he's, his target audience is like, uh, why, why is, I mean, uh, 20 guys in their twenties and thirties who are in tech. And he makes a really interesting point. He dropped this great piece. And in his piece, he raises the point that, boy, they're really freaking out over the cuts to USAID. And they're really freaking out over possible cuts to the Department of Education.

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Her name is Carrie Champion. No, sorry. Uh, I was Ashley Allison, Abby Phillip and Carrie champion. All three of them were given them the hard, the business. And she's going, I don't have the same opportunity. I've been the least paid in all my jobs. How do you know that's due to your color and your gender, right? Maybe you were the youngest. Maybe you had the least experience.

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Maybe you didn't and you actually just weren't that talented. I've seen you on TV. You're fine. You're not a star. You're never going to get your own show. There's a reason they haven't offered it to you yet. It's not because you're a black woman because you're on the show of a black woman. Clearly, CNN doesn't have a problem with that. Maybe you're just not that talented.

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Maybe you're not quite as good on television or in the White House for Obama, who I don't think has a bias against black women, as you think you are. But this is their chance to get out there, even though the nation has just issued a referendum on the nonsense around this kind of thinking, to say, you're all wrong. We're victims.

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I'll tell you in a second what they're doing there today. We're not really seeing the protests in the street about deporting the immigrants. about closing the border, about the trans executive orders, about the DEI executive orders. He's so right. Where did they draw the line in the sand? Do not fire the federal bureaucrats. The deep state must stay. Now it's war, right?

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All this bullshit that they say to pander to their far left base about like, oh, the wokes, oh, the trans people and the DEI. No, it's, wait a minute, you're cutting federal bureaucrat fat cats jobs? It's on.

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And that brings me to the Department of Education this morning, where the Democrats get a little insurrection-y this morning over there in their fight, not just with Trump, but with Elon Musk. They try to like storm the building. But meanwhile, it's like, We don't even have a Trump-appointed DOE chief. It's Linda McMahon, but she hasn't even had her confirmation hearing scheduled.

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So who exactly are you going to go tear down when you get in there? What's your plan exactly if you do get through the door? Maxine Waters, who, of course, was there. She, the leftists, they're very upset. Not about Trump. You don't even hear Trump's name that much, but about Elon.

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It's based on something so anti-American, like so and so unfair in the case of the sports. One other point on that, Megan Rapinoe, famous women's soccer star. Again, she's just like Abby Phillip and those panelists. She's just like Jasmine Crockett. Only in her case, it's even worse because what she's looking to do is pull up the ladder after her.

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Like she got through women's soccer, having to only compete against women. And she became a star and a multimillionaire, multimillionaire off of Americans and their love to watch her play. And now she wants my little girl to compete against boys. My girl is a soccer player. My girl is very talented. And she wants my girl to play against boys.

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fully intact biological males who have gone through male puberty. Here she is with her, is this her wife, Sue Bird, the basketball player who we, yeah, talking on their podcast about this push to protect girls in sport just the other day.

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And there is a brand new cover of Time Magazine, which will show you exactly that, not to mention the ridiculousness on CNN. Okay, so we're going to talk all about that and much, much more with VDH. Victor Davis Hanson is here. He's senior fellow at the Hoover Institution and author of The End of Everything, How Wars Descend into Annihilation.

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What she knows for sure is that any girl who has to compete against a biological boy is in danger. She just doesn't care. It's more important to her to seem like a good person than it is to her what happens to my kid or somebody else's kid listening to this show. And all of us have risen up and elected Donald Trump who has told her she can pound sand.

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We care more about these girls' safety than we do about Megan Rapinoe and Sue Bird, her fiance, feeling good about themselves as virtuous people. Those days are past. We know they're not. All right, VDH stays with us. Don't go away. This show is dedicated to uncovering the truth in a media landscape often dominated by left-leaning narratives, especially when it comes to President Trump.

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My viewers are going to get 40% off their Vantage plan, which gives you unlimited access to their website and their app. They are independent. They are supported by subscribers, not corporate interests. You can check them out at groundnews.com slash Megan. That's ground, G-R-O-U-N-D, news.com slash Megan to take back control of the news you consume.

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So Victor, this week we finally saw the transcript from CBS News of that infamous Kamala Harris sit down right before the election. They were forced to turn it over to the FCC after a complaint was filed by Team Trump about possible deception in advertising and in dealing with the public. And what we saw was that terrible answer that she gave to Netanyahu's not listening.

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which had one answer on 60 Minutes and a different answer in the teaser clip that aired on Face the Nation, got no better behind the scenes. It was really just those two answers melded together. That's all that was there. But what was more interesting was some of the stuff they omitted, they cut from the interview. And nobody's obligated to air the whole interview.

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I didn't know him. And, um, I think we'd met one other time, but you know, obviously we're not on a first name basis exactly. And, uh, it was actually a very productive meeting. I told him the things that I would love to see YouTube change and that you guys know me, I was very frank and he was very respectful.

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It doesn't always happen that you air the whole... 60 never airs the whole interview. But it was very interesting what they chose to cut out, including inanity like this.

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Now there is reporting today that CBS staffers are reportedly becoming increasingly upset about the drama unfolding over at 60 Minutes, that Puck News reporting about the mixed emotions from staffers following comments made by 60 Minutes executive producer Bill Owens, who told his colleagues at Monday's meeting that the editing was, quote, perfectly fine. Is the edit fine?

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One CBS News insider asked rhetorically. It's obviously an unforced error. And now they are upset at the possibility of CBS News settling the $10 billion lawsuit that Trump filed against them down in Texas, alleging fraud in their editing.

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And this is something that we expect they are going to settle because their parent company, Paramount, is trying to get a merger approved by the Trump administration. And CBS News, the vaunted journalist there, don't want to pay him one dime. And even internally, though, are questioning whether they did the right thing in that ridiculous interview they aired.

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But there's still, Victor, did you see Jonathan Capehart of MSNBC sitting there with all of the people running for DNC chair? And he's like, raise your hand if you think she lost because of racism and sexism. Every single person raised their hand and he said, that's the correct answer. She lost because of racism and sexism, even though she had the likes of 60 Minutes running cover for her.

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And let me just show you something, and then I'll give you the floor back, to your point about how she's not beloved. She doesn't inspire anyone. This was an AstroTurf campaign. She and Doug Emhoff, her husband, swung by the LA Lakers game. That's where she lives, California, where she's from. They swung by the game this week and look at the welcome. Literally no one is even noticing them.

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whatever cheers you hear for what's happening around them. There are no cheers. No one cares.

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And people who are not afflicted with Trump derangement syndrome See, all of this clearly, you know, it's like, it really is like a disease. You know, it's like syphilis where it just infects your brain. You can't think straight anymore. And you can tell when somebody has, it's obvious. And that leads me to my next subject, which is the treatment of Melania Trump versus Bianca Sensori.

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Okay, bear with me. I'm going to tie it together. So Melania Trump puts out her new first lady portrait and she looks like a million bucks. She's wearing a tuxedo jacket and she's got her hands on a, like a shiny desk. She, it's a power shot and it's in black and white and she looks absolutely stunning as she always does. But I, I love it. And she's, she just looks like a boss, frankly. Okay.

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So here's Vogue reacting to it. Melania Trump looked more like she was guest starring on an episode of The Apprentice than assuming the role of First Lady. Trump's clothing certainly didn't help the boardroom pastiche. The choice to wear a tuxedo as opposed to a blazer or blouse made Trump look more like a freelance magician than a public servant.

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It's perhaps unsurprising that a woman who lived in a gold-encrusted penthouse whose fame is so intertwined with a reality television empire would refuse to abandon theatrics, even when faced with 248 years of tradition.

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And then they talk about how she sort of tried the first time around in 2017 with her first portrait, which was in color, with her face airbrushed into oblivion, something they would never say about Jill Biden. And now they write, they conclude with now attempting a no-nonsense businesswoman approach in her situationally inappropriate tuxedo.

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It seems that Melania Trump still struggles with sartorial messaging. Now, the woman who wrote this, I mean, she must be a style icon, right? It's got to be somebody who's like been on the cover of Vogue herself, who's in charge of their product line. No, it's a 26 year old named Hannah Jackson, who's a fashion writer for Vogue, who lives in Brooklyn, New York, who writes. Here she is.

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Look at this. This is the woman who thinks she's in the position to judge Melania. Uh, she says she, when she was offered her job as a fashion writer at Vogue a year and a half ago, she was a part-time dance teacher who had just emptied her savings to move across the country. This woman's done nothing. Do you hate Melania? You're hired. You're the one for us. Okay. I'm almost done now.

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Contrast that it's not the same writer, but the same magazine to what they wrote about Bianca Sensori, uh, the literally naked wife of Kanye West, Ye West, at the Grammys. She literally wore nothing, and they were there for it. This writer's named Raven Smith. And she writes all about how somehow this was empowering.

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She describes it as a slip so sheer, so without undergarments, that it exposed her uncensored nudity beneath. A slip. Okay. She writes... about how, look, fashion for me has always celebrated a body's sensuality rather than the unimaginative base level provocation of a woman's nakedness.

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But she goes on to say, while I'm not necessarily advocating for snatch on the red carpet, it could also be argued that it's Bianca's body and therefore Bianca's choice. And then she writes that... Because Bianca's not speaking up, because we're bereft of any deeper motivations, the silence has us scrabbling for answers of our own. But maybe that's exactly what Bianca wanted.

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Um, so I, my next guest will forgive me for stealing his point for the top of the show, but I think it's a really good one. Don't you about this is where they, they really did get upset and it's actually causing protests in the street. Not all the other stuff that they've been whining about for four years.

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You see, that was empowering. But Melania Trump is a pathetic magician who is performing theatrics and is situationally inappropriate. But Bianca is totally appropriate and a badass girl boss.

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It's okay for the woman to want it, but it's not okay for the men to do it.

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Yeah, no, it's shocking. I mean, her cluelessness and, I mean, the emptiness of her insults. Okay, while we're on the subject of salaciousness, I am happy to tell you it's back in Super Bowl ads. And I think America is just fine with that. Now, I do think it's interesting. You get a preview. You know, the big game is this Sunday. It's going to be Chiefs versus Eagles. And...

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These things can be a bit of a cultural touchstone. Right. Like just where are we as a nation? They are removing from the end zone the end racism signs. That's big. Right. Because we've been subjected to those lectures from the NFL for four going on five years now. Right. They are not eliminating the so-called Black National Anthem.

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We're going to have that thing, which is divisive in this context. Yes, it is. But they're doing it. We are going to get a halftime interview of President Trump, unlike Joe Biden, who wouldn't sit for one because he couldn't. Trump has weighed in on the Super Bowl where he will be attending. And let me see if I can find what he said.

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He posted two great quarterbacks in this game, also an unbelievable running back and the absolute best tight end in football. Now, we think that's a reference to Saquon Barkley on the Eagles and Travis Kelsey on the Chiefs. Incredible coaching.

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If they would only get rid of that really weird looking new kickoff deal, which actually makes football more dangerous, there's some new kickoff at the NFL, they would be doing everybody, especially the fans, a big favor. Anyway, it will be a great game. I'll be doing the interview before the game at 3 p.m. There hasn't been one in four years. Gee, I wonder why. Okay, so that's Trump.

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And then you tell me, you know, like all over Twitter the past two weeks, anything that happens, you see like a Trump thing or Trump dance or, you know, girls celebrating Trump. And you see the line, we are so back. We are so back. That's kind of how I feel looking at this Carl, Carl's Jr. ad. We are so back. It's featuring an influencer by the name of Alex Earl. Watch.

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Okay, now, Victor, Alex is a very attractive woman in a bikini with an enormous burger, and there are guys drooling over her. It's been eight years since Carl's Jr. did this.

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I feel like there is something significant to the fact that The obvious nature of men and women is back on screen and being celebrated that women love to be sexy where appropriate. And in a Carl's Jr. ad, it's totally appropriate. And men love to fawn over them. And that's a dynamic that actually leads to the continuation of humankind. And it's fine. But we went through this crazy period.

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It's no accident that it's been eight years, right? Eight years ago, we were at the height of the Me Too era. Now it's like, you know what? It's fine to show off the female form and have guys drooling over her instead of the stupid Gillette ad, which was like some self-flagellating guy trying to show us what a feminist he was, right? Like, something's changing. We are still back, baby.

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No, totally. The the the the back and forth between Hillary Clinton and Sean Duffy. I don't know if you saw. Is it? It's the greatest thing. I'm going off of the Super Bowl for one second because this is just too good. OK, where is that post? I've got to find the Hillary Clinton, the original and the original packet. Hold on. Yeah. Oh, it's the Solana Pack. Okay. Sorry. That's Mike.

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He's coming up next. All right. So here is the Hillary. She tried to troll Sean Duffy, the transportation secretary. And Duffy tweeted out the following on X. Big news, talk to the Doge team. They are going to plug in to help upgrade our aviation system. Hillary Clinton decides to weigh in. They have no relevant experience. Most of them aren't old enough to rent a car.

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And you're going to let them mess with airline safety that's already deteriorated on your watch? Duffy, Madam Secretary, with all due respect, experienced Washington bureaucrats are the reason our nation's infrastructure is crumbling. You need to sit this one out. Hillary, US Airlines had gone 16 years without fatal crashes.

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Then MAGA fired the FAA chief, gutted the Aviation Security Advisory Committee, and threatened air traffic controllers with layoffs. Now there have been two fatal crashes. Hope your unvetted 22-year-olds fix things fast. I thought he was just going to walk away because she was being so obstinate. No, he didn't. He came back at her. Duffy,

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I know you're lashing out because Doge is uncovering your family's obscene grifting via USAID, but I won't let you lie and distort facts. The FAA administrator announced he resigned over a month before Trump took office, and the air traffic controllers were always exempt from Trump's civil service buyouts. The previous administration shamelessly used U.S.

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Department of Transportation as a slush fund for the Green News scam, Oh, shots fired. That's...

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It stinks. I think they're really upset about all this. I do one more Super Bowl ad with you. One more. Yeah. My cultural commentator here, BDH. This one, you mentioned comedy and how it's coming back. Well, Shane Gillis was a comedian who got canceled during the height of the wokeness because he'd got hired by by SNL. And then it emerged that in one of his comedy routines, he did an Asian accent.

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So they canceled him on SNL for doing an Asian. It was just absolutely absurd. He's back too. He is starring in the latest, this is no accident, Bud Light ad, which is all testosterone. Here.

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It's bearded men, guys with baseball caps, party at the sack. Smoking meat with the women. And I didn't see any fake women by the name of Dylan Mulvaney. This company has heard us. It's obvious.

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It's the whole theme of our discussion is sort of what's happening to the country versus where the Democrats are. And I'll end with this. Fetterman said the following to Puck News. He was commenting on that new DNC leadership, you know, where they were so worried about they don't have enough non-binaries. And everybody agreed Kamala lost because of racism and sexism.

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And then they had the nerve to elect a white male as head of the DNC. And as the vice chair... They elected another white male, David Hogg, one of the people who is a student at that school in Parkland, Florida, where there was a mass shooting. And he's been just truly one of the most vicious leftists ever since. So Fetterman says the following.

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And boy, does that ever sum it up. VDH, I got to run. Thank you for spending your Friday with us. Always a pleasure.

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All right. Up next, Mike Solana is here. Don't miss that. Some therapists say that debt can make people feel desperate and helpless. It can ruin your sleep, creep into your relationships. It can wreck happiness. But there are ways to get help. Let me tell you about Done With Debt. They have aggressive new strategies to end your debt fast. They have a Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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And I did acknowledge to him what you guys know is true, which is with our show, they have been very fair. We've only gotten clipped a couple of times and I raised the specific issues and you guys know what those are too because I'm not shy about it.

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Here is how it looked outside of the Department of Education today where they tried to get in, but the security would not let them.

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But the thing that really got them out in the streets was the cutback of federal bureaucrats' jobs, including today at the DOE. They're very upset about USAID. Now, magazines like Politico are seeing their subscriptions from these federal government offices pulled because the government doesn't want to pay taxpayer dollars for these things. Now they're pissed.

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Well, look at us here now, four years later from the end of Trump's presidency, where, you know, when he ended, it was late 2020 COVID. We were being told everything was a conspiracy theory, lab leak. That's a conspiracy theory. All this stuff that, you know, I can't talk about, you know, the medicines that could treat COVID and COVID hydroxychloroquine and all that stuff.

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And you're a conspiracy theorist. If you think the vaccines might injure you, et cetera. Well, now here we are four years later, he's back in office. And deep state starting to look a lot more real, even to people who never do conspiracy. Right. It's like, well, you know, that T-shirt, like all my conspiracy theories have come true.

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But they're going down swinging. I just want to say in like a minute, we'll say goodbye to our SiriusXM audience, but we're going to continue the discussion on pod and youtube.com slash Megyn Kelly. But they're not going down without a fight because they filed a lawsuit. to try to stop these terminations. What's really happening is they're offering buyouts.

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They're saying, if you want to leave the federal government, go ahead and leave. And we'll give you eight months salary, which is much more generous than they would get otherwise. And please go. And some 50,000 reportedly have said, okay, we'll go not just out of, uh, you know, department of education, but just across the government. But

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Now these unions have come in, filed lawsuits saying, you're not allowed to do that. These salaries are only funded through March. Don't believe them. You're not going to get your eight months on a technicality. You can't trust them. They're not going to give you any money past March. Don't take the buyout. Because they make their business and their bones by keeping all the stuffing in the system.

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Well, they stopped it for now, but I think that they're going to lose that lawsuit. I think Trump absolutely has the power to reduce the federal government and to reduce the money that he's paying in the federal government that is 100 percent within the function of the executive. So he had a Clinton appointee who struck it down for now. But but that will be reversed.

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So I like this, that you're targeting a group of, I think, young men who are feeling kind of disaffected. unloved, undervalued, and you're very open about the fact that they should be catered to. And actually I heard in your, in your article, something I didn't know existed, which was the tech, right?

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What do you make of, so this reminds me, I am fascinated by the fact that of course all the tech executives showed up to the inauguration.

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But did you see Mark Zuckerberg's comments about Sheryl Sandberg? He blamed her for the wokeness at Meta, reportedly, and said she was the one responsible for tampons in the men's room and all that shit is done. You know, he's doing the jujitsu. He grew the hair out. He's pro-Trump. Like, what a shift. By the way, there's a report in the news today that some rogue employees at Facebook or Meta

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Did put tampons back in the men's room. Revolution. But it's no longer company sanctioned. Yes. It's their act of civil disobedience. But I thought that was actually very interesting. I mean, they were very tight for a long time.

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I think I speak for everyone when I say we're on his side. I mean, can you imagine if the dynamic were reversed there, Victor? And if it were a white man saying to Maxine Water, get your head up. Look at me. Give me your ID. Show it to me again. Get it out. She can be as disrespectful as she wants of him, though.

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I don't like the fact that you can't describe what's being done to so-called trans children as mutilation and YouTube will potentially demonetize your show, will pull your show. So we talked about that and I am hopeful about progress in the free speech lane now because all of big tech, I think, is reevaluating life under Donald Trump, right?

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And we need him. Yes. We need as many strong soldiers on this side of the aisle as we can get. Yes. You know, it's interesting. I went out to the all in summit in September, late September, and Elon was there and all the guys were there from the all in podcast. And it was all tech guys in the audience, some gals, but it was mostly male.

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Young, you know, I would say mostly in their young 30s, mid-30s maybe. And I couldn't believe how right-leaning they seemed. I was saying all the things I say, you know, on gender. I ripped on Kamala Harris's intelligence. You know, like all this stuff. I defended Trump on the lawfare. they kept clapping like a lot. I had the support of the crowd and I was like, what is this place?

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What's happening out here? Like this is supposed to be tech, which I think Kara Swisher tells me she's got her finger on the pulse and she's as left as they come. She knows nothing.

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But it's sad to me to think of, by the way, my EP wants me to remind everybody that Jason and Shamath are going to be on the podcast a week from today. Um, But I think it's sad because when you're in Republican circles, it's hard enough. Let's go before the election, before Trump won again and before Elon came out on the campaign trail.

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It's hard enough if you have a big business or you're an up-and-comer in a very left-leaning industry to show your politics or be open at all about what your political leanings are. But it's gone beyond that for so long to where young men not only had to say the right things, had to hide their politics if they were all right-leaning, but had to be shamed just for being male. That's it.

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And never mind if you're white male, forget about it. And that, you know, we can laugh like, oh, it's so stupid. But it actually really has done a number on like an entire generation. And it's such bullshit.

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Sorry. I'm confusing him with the other guy. James Damore. Yeah, okay. Sorry.

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But it's innate. It's innate. And when they saw you saying the things and writing the things that they knew to be true, it would be a natural gravitation to hear more of it, to read more of it. And now I feel like they've been empowered. And there are some women who are like, well, we don't want him to be empowered to the point where they're all Andrew Tate, right? Like that's too far.

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I was just talking with Victor Davis Hanson about this change in the Super Bowl ads, you know, like back in the era. And remember the Gillette ad with like the super soft guy? Like I defend Justin Baldoni in this lawsuit with Blake Lively because I think she's horrible and she's made up this whole thing because she tried to steal his movie.

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But he is the most overly feminized man I've had to endure in recent history. Everything he says is self-flagellating over the fact that he's a man. Every sentence, his declarative sentence. He's apologizing. Yeah, they're couched in a million like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. But he's to me is sort of the embodiment of what happens when you totally emasculate a man. And then she continued.

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She took that stiletto and stuck it in his heart when he was down there self-flagellating, being so sorry for anything having to do with his testosterone. And so that's what happens to you, right? Then you run into somebody who seems like a witch who will take advantage of you and hurt you until finally even that kind of a guy rises up. Now, he didn't do it himself exactly.

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He hired a badass named Brian Friedman. And he has badass women like me defending him. But slowly but surely, I think the male class is learning down on the floor squirming and apologizing for being a man is not the way.

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I hear you. I've had Bill on the show and I appreciate his same like with Zuckerberg. We'll take you. Welcome aboard. Love it. But yeah, late to the party for sure. And, you know, for those of us who had real skin in this game for a long time, it is funny to see the Johnny come lately. He's like, I have saved the day. You're like me.

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Yeah. Have you really? So what is the next four years hold? Because under Trump. woke ism grew, you know, the resistance they grew, they, they had their boogeyman and under Biden, they tried to make it explode. You know, they tried to have, you know, they're so upset about big balls, but let's not forget who they brought to the white house, to the white house.

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Actually, we have this queued up because I knew you were coming and I baked this cake, but this is what Biden did in sought 31.

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This is a man named Rose Montoya who showed his fake boobs on the front of the White House. So this was pushed on us by the White House. But I think the culture was swinging the other way as this became more in your face.

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Yeah, it's like when you look around at your life and you realize you put on an extra 200 pounds and you're not married and you don't have kids and you've been drinking too much and you feel gross and you've been having bad visits to the doctors, you need to lose weight. You know you need to lose weight. You gotta get on the treadmill. You should stop drinking so much. You should try to get a job.

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You should maybe throw your hat into the dating pool. But that's a process. And then when you're healthier and you feel better and you look better, Then you can ask yourself the question of what do I do now that I'm, I'm well again, what do I do? And we're, we're at the, Oh my God, I've gained 200 pounds phase of it. Yeah.

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Really enjoyed it. Mike Salon, everybody check it out. Pirate. Where do they find pirate wires?

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Awesome. Thanks for being here. And heading to the Super Bowl this weekend, we'll have all the behind-the-scenes pictures and reports for you on Monday. Have a great one. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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The pushback... I mean, I don't know what she thought she was going to accomplish, just because she's a member of Congress, that she can just show up and announce, barge into the DOE with a bunch of civilians they don't know, they haven't cleared. Their intent once they get into the DOE is unclear. Can you imagine what that guy...

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the kind of hot water he would have been into if they had just let them all in. Just come on in. I mean, now I guess this is the new standard on Capitol Hill in the wake of January 6th. If you're a Democrat, it's fine. You can storm the building. You can blow past security. You can harass the officers. That's all good.

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I mean, I was told that was really bad and insurrection-y, but I guess Maxine Waters can get away with it. So that's one thing, because they're going to cut federal jobs, and that's what she's really upset about. But there is, meanwhile, some... Civil disobedience. I don't know what you want to call it in response to some of Trump's reforms. And it's starting to crop up already.

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Yesterday, we talked about how in New York State, the attorney general ordered hospitals not to comply. with Trump's executive order banning these trans procedures on minors. He said, you cannot give the puberty blockers and the cross-sex hormones, and you cannot do the surgeries.

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Anyway, we're gonna go and it'll be my very first Super Bowl. I'm very excited to do this. I'm grateful for the invitation and I don't know what to expect like football, but it's supposed to be like a big, you know, extravaganza the whole weekend. And I will have a full report for you guys of the behind the scenes happenings when we get back to the show on Monday and we will have a show on Monday.

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And she said, if you don't do all those things, NYU Langone, which stopped doing it in the wake of Trump's order, I'll sue you for a violation of our anti-discrimination, anti and pro equal protection laws. So far, they appear to be holding the line, complying with the president. Now, today you get well, yesterday you had Trump's executive order on banning boys from girls sports.

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And California has come out today to say we won't comply. We're not we're not following that. We don't believe in it. We want the boys in the sports and we're going to keep doing it. And then on top of all that.

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You have Tom Homan trying to go city to city, get out the worst of the worst immigrants, illegal immigrants, for which there's overwhelming support by both parties to deport the criminal illegals, the ones who have committed additional crimes in addition to being here illegally. And he's trying to get out Venezuelan gang members out of this Colorado town.

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And somebody leaked that he was about to be there with his deportation force. And they went apartment to apartment in this building and they were empty. And Tom Holman says heads will roll. But clearly there is subterfuge afoot here, Victor, amongst many, both in official positions and not, to try to stop the people's mandate.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and today's bonus AM episode. Brian Kohlberger, the suspect accused of murdering four University of Idaho students, is set to go to trial in August.

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And he is alleged to have killed them in the course of 12 minutes, all four of them.

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Think about it, because many of us believe that he had on like a worker's suit because we saw that that was... He bought one via Amazon, like a painter's suit, you know, that would cover up your whole... Right. Everything you're wearing. And that that's... He did that for a reason, right? He knew he was going to get bloody.

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But... And maybe he had those little booties that, you know, like when the heating guy comes to fix your heater, he puts on before he walks into your house. But he would have... Like, think about it. He's sneaking out of the house covered in blood. Where does he take the stuff off, right? According to them, the eyewitness saw him, which would have shaken him.

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He wouldn't have wanted to be hanging out in the house, disrobing, changing out of his workman suit and his booties if he's wearing them. He must have done that in the car. You would think he would have done that in the car and then disposed of this along with a murder weapon on the way home. And we'll get to the eyewitness, which is the most interesting thing of the whole day. But pause there.

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We'll get to the blood. We'll get to the eyewitness. So- If you put if you got into your car with a bloodied jumpsuit and a bloodied pair of like those slide on booties, there should be blood evidence in the car.

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I have to say, it's such a busy news time for us to be doing this. Just shows the significance of what happened at that hearing on January 23rd and 24th. I was like, we've got to get this on because- I appreciate it. I mean, I don't want to overstate it, but it's possible the prosecution's case is falling apart. It did not go particularly well for them. Let's start with the DNA. What happened?

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I mean, he did quite a job of disposing of that murder weapon and those clothes. That's all you'd need. I mean, it'd be ballgame. He'd be done. He'd be total toast. I've often wondered if he managed to put it up in a tree somehow, like instead of down, instead of digging ground, which if they'd gotten enough search crews out there might have been identified.

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It's just mind-boggling. There's so much blood. The house is bleeding. Four dead young 20s and teenagers. In the course of 12 minutes, there would be blood all over you. How... How did he get it to the point where there was no blood in the car? I just, that's a big mystery for me. It's a big question in this case. Okay.

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Yeah. On the subject of blood, what you were going to say, we learned about those two, two other spots of blood. Yeah.

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Did the... prosecution, did the FBI do any genetic genealogy on the DNA from the blood?

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Any theories on how not one, but two men's DNA got on this crime scene, Howard? No.

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It's a fascinating theory. You, all I could think of when you were saying it was of course, the famous Johnny Cochran, if the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit. I bet you anything that glove does not fit Brian Kohlberger's hand. And you know, if this is true, right? Like what, what if he has this, you know, he's just getting his PhD in criminology and He's a TA in criminology.

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All he does is study crime. And apparently he was very good, a very good student of it. Very annoying and irritating to everybody he worked with at Washington University. But what if he really did do that? What if somehow he had access to somebody's blood? I don't know how he would have gotten it, but there is some speculation this may not have been his first crime.

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If this was his crime, it was so meticulous and well-handled. Perhaps this wasn't his first rodeo. And what if what if that really was like an homage almost, you know, the two gloves, reasonable doubt.

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Such a colossal error on his part. I know this is a weird place to go, but I'd give anything to have been there when he realized he forgot it, you know? To see the look come over his face when he realized his perfect crime had been foiled by him. Mm-mm.

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losing something as basic as the knife sheath, as incriminating as the knife sheath, and then just praying to God that all the times he handled it with gloves on protected him from fingerprints or anything that would tie him to it. And yet he wasn't careful enough.

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Not guilty. All right, now we have to talk about the eyewitness. But before we do, I want to say this. This is the first time I really, really thought about the DNA now that they've been caught, right? The FBI, they shouldn't have used those private company databases. They did.

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They're obviously much bigger because a lot more people would give their DNA if they knew it was going to stay private and not be available to law enforcement. So they did. And that's how they found Brian Kohlberger's dad.

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Um, to me, there's actually no chance of the judge suppressing the genetic genealogy, the touch DNA or anything because of that, because that is a violation of the terms of service. I assume it's ancestry DNA and 23 and me.

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Okay, so that's a violation of the terms of service of that company. That company has rules that law enforcement's not supposed to go on there. But I don't think there's a law saying you've broken the law as a cop if you go on there. It's just like the cop violated a term of service of a private company. So that's between the cop and the company. Maybe the cop, the police department gets sued

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over that, but I don't see how that helps the defendant whose DNA was uploaded.

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So interesting. Okay. Let's get to Dylan Mortensen, right? Who is the eyewitness that he went in, in the middle of the night, he killed four roommates, but there was one roommate. There's another roommate who wasn't there. And there was this roommate, Dylan shown here. And she is what they called an eyewitness in the affidavit. She said she saw a man of medium build,

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with bushy eyebrows, wearing like a COVID mask, that they made eye contact with one another. She was frozen in a frozen shock phase. And he went by her. She went back into her room. She locked the door. She stayed in her room until almost noon the next day as her roommates were bleeding to death. No one can understand the decision-making, but no one's been in such a situation.

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I don't understand what happened with Dylan. No one does. But talk about like your witness collapsing, she may not even be able to give the prosecution what I just said.

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I don't know if she will either. And that may have been the point of her changing her testimony, like picture a scenario in which she's just too terrified to sit in a courtroom across from this guy. And also in front of the public, which I mean, she didn't have anything to do with these crimes.

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It's just, you know, there's a fair amount of like what kind of a person would go back into their room and not call 911 after, you know, she's saying she's so afraid of this person. She went into shock and,

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And they are the ones we believe now, Howard, who found the bodies?

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Wow. So she because that was always one of the big mysteries that it was somebody else. It wasn't Dylan who called 911 when ultimately the authorities were called and we didn't know who it was. But now we believe it was the fraternity brothers who she called to come over to the house.

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That is unbelievable. So she is saying she doesn't know if she actually saw him or if it was her mind playing with her. She conceded that she had a lot to drink and was too inebriated to remember anything that happened that night with any authority. And when they showed her a photo of Kohlberger after the fact, she failed to identify him as the intruder she had seen. These are terrible facts.

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No, no, she's not going to be helpful at all. And it's unfortunate. Their case doesn't rise or fall on her, but boy, you'd much rather have her say, I'll never forget those bushy eyebrows. And if I see those eyes again, I'll know them and then say, there they are right there at defense table.

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Wow. I don't know. I'm fine with the death penalty. I really am. I like O'Reilly always used to say he was against it because he thought it was too easy on the defendant. You know, he wanted them to suffer in prison. I just feel like if Brian Colbert committed these crimes, he killed these four young, beautiful people in the prime of their lives.

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I'd have absolutely no qualms at all seeing him shot down by a firing squad. I might actually celebrate it.

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Well, maybe I'll at least go out there. I don't know. I just feel like I have no empathy for a person like that. Again, it's not totally consistent with my Catholic faith, but that's just how I genuinely feel. I just feel like those people shouldn't be allowed to roam the earth any longer. But I have to be honest, I don't like the fact that all the supporting evidence is falling apart.

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you know, when we talk about how the cheek swab matched Brian Kohlberger, what we're saying is the, the cheek swab, Brian Kohlberger's DNA was definitely on the knife sheath. That's what that proves. It was, it was his DNA on the knife sheath, but let's be honest. All that really proves is that he touched that knife sheath at some point.

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Right. And if there's, you know, if like if the car evidence is falling apart, right, like it's true, you can never see the driver and nor the license plate.

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but without a motive, without a connection. Go ahead, what were you going to say?

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That's what Ann Taylor said at the hearing. Did the prosecution push back on that at all? Because I've definitely heard prosecutors argue, no, they can be more specific than that.

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You've been saying this all along. You've been suspecting that the FBI got this match between the DNA, the touch DNA on the knife sheath, and matched it to Kohlberger's father. possibly by doing something they're not allowed to do, which is use the commercial DNA websites that people like you and I might go to if we're looking for a long-lost relative. They have a public database.

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CeCe Moore, the original creator of genetic genealogy, talked to us about this a long time ago saying, There's only one that's totally public and anyone can upload their DNA and see what's on there. The other two are fee-for-service private companies that are not allowed to be used by law enforcement. Otherwise, nobody would go on there, right?

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They'd be like, if I ever committed a crime or have a relative down the line who might've committed a crime, I'm gonna get them in trouble. So there's supposed to be this hard wall.

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And you said early on you suspected, because the FBI seemed to be very cagey about this whole thing, they didn't want to turn over the results of how they got this to anybody, that maybe they had done something they weren't allowed to.

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Wait, before you answer that, let's just show the audience what Kohlberger's defense attorney, Ann Taylor, yes, that's her name, argued about this investigative genetic genealogy, IgG, evidence. Listen to her in Stop 41.

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She's saying all the goods they got after getting that hit have to be suppressed and cannot be used because they're in essence the fruit of the poisonous tree.

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And if that's not what the prosecution wanted to hear, the prosecution wanted to hear, there's no need for a hearing. This is ridiculous. You know, irrespective of how we got to Brian Kohlberger's father as being related to the person whose DNA was on the knife sheath. We know it is Brian Kohlberger's DNA because we ultimately took a cheek swab that shows it was him. But the, but the, so the,

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The problem for the prosecution is the judge is not saying no. He's keeping the door open. He might actually have a hearing on this, so he's at least a little interested. But can I just say this to what you just said, Howard? The DNA matching Kohlberger directly is absolutely devastating. There's no question. It's a

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As I understand her argument, Ann Taylor's, it's that you would never have been cheek swabbing Brian Kohlberger if you hadn't been doing the shenanigans with the DNA and 23andMe. She's saying you can't even use the cheek swab because it too is fruit of the poisonous tree.

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Okay, so hold on. But before we get to that, let me finish up this part. I know there's a lot of stuff to discuss. So just so the audience knows, that's what she's trying to argue. She's trying to say everything that followed as a result of you figuring out that Brian Kohlberger's DNA, his dad's DNA, was traceable, from that knife sheath has to be removed.

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You have to get rid of it, including the cheek swab. Now, the judge did not seem like he was going to do that. He seemed very into the actual cheek swab, and he didn't sound like a man who thinks that's fruit of any poisonous tree. But here he is, Judge Hipler, talking about that DNA match in SOP 43.

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That's, again, she's saying the investigative genetic genealogy undermines it and makes it unusable. Is that basically what happened?

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Okay, but how about the fact that, I mean, the best fact, I think, other than the DNA match, is the fact that when the police went to arrest him in the Poconos in December, this crime was committed the month before, in November, my God, is it 2022 now? I'm trying to, I'm losing track. Yes. Yeah, 2022.

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When they arrested him in his home, back in his parents' home in December, he was there putting his trash into individual little baggies that were being disposed of in the neighbor's trash can. That is terrible. Very incriminating.

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Uh, of course, as, as any good defense lawyer. Well, but that one's, um, I'm, we've heard her out on the genetic genealogy thing. You were right. And she was right that there was some funny business going on from the sound of it, but she's not, there's no way she's getting out the FBI, what they found upon arresting him for no way. And it's just a terrible damn fact.

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I don't, you know, but go back to your first point. I firmly believe Kohlberger committed this crime. But what's fascinating is how good he was at covering it up. To your point, there's no murder weapon. And she reiterated these points. So these are all updated now. We've been speculating. But she was on the record with they haven't found a murder weapon. They did not find any blood. How are they?

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She said this on Brian, on any of his belongings or even anywhere in that car that they practically dissected.

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Such a massive, massive error. But what about the car and the phone evidence? Because when we read the police affidavit before his arrest, it was white car, Hyundai Elantra. They changed the year once they started to narrow in on Kohlberger because they'd had the years wrong. But then they said, okay, yeah, it's 15. It's not just 16. Anyway, whatever his car was. And

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We've seen that car around, you know, the the murder house many times, according to the cops. And also his phone records show that he was in the vicinity of the murder house over and over, including the the night before. They didn't have him there during the murder hours. His phone was off. But then the next morning he appeared to go back before they had found the bodies in the 9 a.m. hour.

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My gosh. All right. So it's just it's a it's a screw up by the cops that won't be helpful to the prosecutors in trying to show this case was done by the book. All T's crossed, all I's dotted. All right. So that's some of the stuff. I'm amazed. I'm amazed that at this point in the case. She's saying openly there's no blood evidence tying him to the crime.

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I thought for sure they'd find something, you know, that with all the searches they did of his apartment or his car, his clothing, there'd be some speck of the four victims' blood. This is a brutal murder done by knife, K-bar knife, in the middle of the night. These four beautiful college students asleep in their beds or in their rooms at least.

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You will be quiet and anybody you told must be quiet or you will pay the penalty. So it's not gonna save her if a friend wrote the memo. And by the way, no friend would write the memo to the transition team without getting the accusers okay. They wouldn't jeopardize this woman's money or putting her into the spotlight.

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There's no way this woman did not approve the memo to the Trump transition, which is a breach of the non-disclosure, right? If this is actually how it went down. So what's happened now is, We talked about this yesterday. More and more you have people like Jake Tapper, he was on the air at CNN asking Senator Rick Scott, should Pete authorize the woman to break the nondisclosure?

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You're so upset these are all anonymous accusers in the press. Shouldn't he let her come out and talk? Which is just such bullshit. You're putting these guys in an impossible position. They get accused of something they say they didn't do. They pay the woman to make her go away so they can keep their Fox News job. Then the woman violates the NDA to try to tank his chances as defense secretary.

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Then the response is, well, if you didn't do anything, you should release her from the obligation. Like, what? So anyway, but an interesting turn last night where his lawyer, Tim Parlatori, went on CNN and suggested that she already is released. She already is released from the nondisclosure and she can tell her story. So I reached out to Tim Parlatori myself today and here is what he said.

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But he was worried about his job. I understand that. Understandable. Especially Fox News post Me Too, post Roger Ailes. I'm sure Pete did not want somebody saying... He raped me. I mean, that would be worth some sort of settlement just to make her go away from somebody who's probably earning millions at Fox. This puts a guy like Pete in a very uncomfortable situation.

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I don't know what men out there would do if this happened to them. But if making her go away quietly is an option, you'd probably take it. Because at a minimum, you know that this interlude with this woman was behind the back of your soon-to-be third wife. And that you are a womanizer, at least at that point or prior to shortly prior to. So that's none of that's good.

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That's worth paying some money to make her be quiet. But this was interesting about this statement is it says she's not entitled to any further payment. So he must still be making. Oh, these sound like monthlies. Right? Yeah. He must still be making payments. So this woman does have some financial skin in the game right now.

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And she's liable for the return of the payment made plus liquidated damages, which would be a lot.

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Um, and then a threat of if you go and you sit and you say something, if I see you on CNN, in other words, repeating these claims, you're going to be sued for defamation as well as for the underlying we'll, we'll revive what we let go, which was a civil extortion claim against you. But now the question is, will she try to pull a Christine Blasey Ford at the confirmation hearing?

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tearful, you know, I, I, I, I remember, you know, him getting on top of me and the trauma and try to submit some psychologists, you know, assessment of her, who knows what she's got.

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What we've got is the police report from the first six days and it does not reflect well on her, but this whole thing could spin into just a, you know, just a public debacle where we'd have to play our music again, you know, and, And look, it won't be great for Trump or Pete, but Trump stood by Kavanaugh. And I don't think it could get bigger than that one was.

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And if she comes out, Maureen, like right now, she's behind the cloak of anonymity. No one's printing her name. She's not being dragged the way Pete's being dragged. I mean, you see, like, go Google Pete and look at the mainstream coverage of Pete. They basically refer to him as a rapist. Pretty much. Rapist Pete Heads Up, which is such a smear.

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I would sue all of them for defamation if I were Pete. I mean, some are not even putting the words alleged in there. And, um, so she's, she's still behind the cloak, but if she gives an interview, I'm not talking about inside the Senate on the confirmation hearing, like she won't be sued for defamation for that. But if she gives an interview outside of that setting, um, She's now fair game.

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Like now we have an obligation. Everybody knows her name. They have an obligation to look into her past. What do we know about her? What other men are there who might say, oh, that's the one who might say, holy crap. Let me tell you what she did to me. Let me tell you what I know about her. Look, it's not pleasant, but that's what this woman's got to be considering right now.

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One of my viewers pointed this out, and I haven't been able to get past the point. It's such a good point. By the way, if you have a good point, you can email me, Megan at MeganKelley.com. Why didn't she go to get the sexual assault exam until Thursday if the alleged rape happened overnight Saturday to Sunday?

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And, you know, according to the police report, she remembered the rape on Monday morning while having sex with what we believe was her husband. So why wait until Thursday for a sexual assault exam? One of the audience members pointed out, and this was a sexual assault nurse, one of the ones who does exams, that if you wait that long, there would be no trace of date rape drug in your system.

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So it would not be suspicious to anybody taking your blood or that no date rape drug was found. It's been too long. So the fact that there's nothing in you doesn't suggest it wasn't given to you because it's been too many days. But if you get that blood test the day after, on Monday, after the alleged Saturday to Sunday rape, they'd find it if it had been given to you. So she couldn't go in.

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The quick update is the jury appears hung on the most serious crime against Penny. He's the man who put Jordan Neely in a chokehold, the homeless vagrant who was threatening passengers, but also a really great Michael Jackson impersonator, which is all you would know about him from the headlines of the mainstream media. Correct. And the man wound up dying.

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She couldn't go in on Sunday or Monday or Tuesday or Wednesday. She had to wait until she knew if she had been given it, it would be out of her system and no one would find it suspicious that she gave a clean blood test or a clean urine test or was just saying to the nurse, oh, but gee, five days have passed. And then the nurse would say, oh, well, it won't be there. So let's not bother.

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Yeah. And she was not the one whose leg he touched, whose arm he touched. She was witnessing it all. And she was probably very envious. Pete's a very good looking guy. He's a star. He's a millionaire. And, you know, obviously he's got no trouble getting women, but she was not the object of his desire.

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She just happened to be the last woman around at two in the morning when they got back to his hotel room. She was seen perfectly fine at 1.30. She was seen perfectly fine at 4 a.m. There was no time for any drugging or its effect to take place. And that's just the bottom line on her. Now we get things like this. Okay. So the They recognize that Pete's not dead yet. Right.

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The mainstream media and they want Pete to be dead. So we're starting to get a lot of fun things. I mean, they're just ridiculous, but they're kind of fun. Washington Post. Maybe we should take a shot at his bronze stars. Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Okay. Bronze stars, like those Hegseth earned, are common among military officers. It's like, who doesn't have one?

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Military experts say there's a mistaken belief among much of the American public that the Bronze Star is a rarefied award exclusively for battlefield heroics, which has distorted and inflated its significance in many cases. The U.S.

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military issues two versions of the award, one with a V device denoting valor in combat, the other for commendable job performance or deployments or meritorious service in the military parlance. The bronze stars listed in Hegseth's official records fall into the latter category, according to his official records.

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Such awards were issued somewhat liberally throughout the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, experts say. Awardees of the Meritorious Service Medal are predominantly military officers like Hegseth, data provided by the military shows. While many officers have risked their lives on the battlefield, the majority of fighting and exposure to danger is performed by the enlisted troops they command.

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blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, going on to shit all over his bronze star and tell us that we shouldn't admire him for his service or his commendations.

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Anyway, the jury should not be having this much trouble. It should be very easy, I think, to say not guilty. But they're having trouble. And we'll give you the specifics in one second. We're going to start with Pete Hegseth. This morning, Trump tweeted out or truthed out support for support for Pete, making clear he does stand by him.

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That's absolutely right. And that's honestly why he says he was drinking. That's not unusual. That's completely understandable. Dakota Meyer was on this show telling me he was drunk as he was awarded the Medal of Honor by Barack Obama. I believe it. That he was completely hammered in the moment. These guys go through a lot.

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And I honestly, I feel like who are we to judge if they want to drown their sorrows in the bottom of a beer bottle for a while? Seriously. He is not doing that now. And there's not even an accusation. It's just more like, oh, well, I smelled whiskey on him. One time on Fox News is set by some anonymous person. Well, who?

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Because all the Fox and Friends anchors that he did the news with say that's a load of crap. That didn't happen. But wait, as you mentioned Pete's service and like, what did he do? So he volunteered to go to Gitmo, which he did. He volunteered to go to Iraq, which he did. He volunteered to go to Afghanistan, which he did.

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And the New York Times, the daily podcast did an in-depth look at some of that military service. And this is how they described Pete. I think this is his Iraq service. Take a listen.

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That was very good news for Pete saying, Pete Hegseth is doing very well. His support is strong and deep, much more so than the fake news would have you believe. He was a great student, Princeton, Harvard educated with a military state of mind. He will be a fantastic high energy secretary of defense, one who leads with charisma and skill.

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I didn't see them. After they lashed out at all their Democratic friends like David Frum and George Conway, suddenly they were gone.

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Yeah, like the Washington Post. Instead of shitting on his bronze medals, why don't we talk about that Washington Post? Mm-hmm. Follow your New York Times. And honestly, I hope that Joni Ernst and Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski and Mitch McConnell will listen to that story. We don't give a shit about his marital issues. We don't. That is for Pete and his wives to deal with. And they have.

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I care about that. I'm sure the enlisted guys care about that. I don't like it's the media that is like, look over here, these delicious bones for you to chew on. And all these left wing reporters and left leaning senators are like, oh, yeah, I want to chew on the bone. The bone feels good. It makes me feel morally superior. Makes me feel like a better person. Like I'm a protector.

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Pete is a winner and there is nothing that can be done to change that. So that's the best thing that's happened to Pete in a while. He posted it this morning at 8 a.m. And my information continues to be that Pete's got still an uphill battle in the Senate because there's probably no way Susan Collins of Maine, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska will vote for Pete. Mm hmm.

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Yeah, that is a lie. Yeah. Right. No, she doesn't read. I mean, that's like her co-host Anna Navarro was just tweeting out that Woodrow Wilson hardened. I heard that. It's relative hunter to butts.

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Very, very little known relatives of our best presidents who got pardoned. Right. I want to tell you that the guy who wrote the piece in WAPO, according to my crack team, does have military experience and went to Georgetown. So apparently he just likes to unleash these ditties on Republican candidates because he should know better. He should know better.

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All right. Here's the other thing against Pete. Okay, two things. First of all, WAPO again, hitting him for his history with alcohol, which shadows the Pentagon selection. Okay, Hegseth's history with alcohol shadows Pentagon selection. Okay, now what did he do? At Fox News, he had a reputation as a heavy drinker, according to six former Fox News employees. Who? Who are they? I know them all.

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Tell me the names and I will tell you whether these are credible witnesses. I guarantee you Gretchen Carlson is running around being like he was a boozer. Gretchen, who's fired, who nobody likes. OK, so let's see. They worked directly with him. They saw him drinking. I mean, all the Fox and Friends anchors present day have said it is bullshit. Right.

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yes in this latest episode of the capitol hill soap opera combat vets are sparring over who should lead our troops the first star of our series was matt gates gone but not forgotten and the current is thirst trap Pete Hegseth. Yes, I refer to him that way because, well, I will show you why in one minute. This is what they're calling him online.

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That we've worked with them for 10 years up close at all hours. And then this is their example. Several years ago, several. Mm-hmm. During a St. Patrick's Day segment on Fox & Friends weekend, support staff at the cable news network set up a display of beers, Maureen, for a holiday segment on the show. After the segment aired, Hegseth walked by the display table and drank each beer.

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According to two former colleagues who witnessed the incident and spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive, a sensitive episode. It was? Was it really? The incident struck the colleagues as jarring for two reasons. One, the displayed drinks had been sitting out for hours and were stale and warm.

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What kind of a pig is he? Two, the show wraps up at 10 a.m., an early hour for alcohol consumption. Numerous other Fox employees have disputed that he drank excessively. So first of all, I will just say this. When you wake up at 3 or 4 in the morning, 10 a.m. is actually not as late as it- Like, there are a fair amount of- I know. I worked in morning TV, both at Fox and NBC.

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I actually know some people who work those hours who do have their drinks- very early, but at the normal time of day, they're asleep in their beds that their weird schedule, whatever. Okay. But secondly, how many beers? Because I'll tell you when Fox and friends would set up a, like a display like that, there'd probably be four cases of beer.

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They're not going to put out like two beers and there's no way Pete Hegseth walked over and drank two cases of beer. So what are we talking? We don't know. It's we're just left to think the worst.

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But look, if you're going to go back and look at public drunkenness as as evidence of why we shouldn't trust a person, then it's fair game. Why are we trusting Anderson Cooper? He's drunk while he's delivering the news of the night. What if what if there's a bombing in, you know, Saudi Arabia that night? Who's going to report on it? Anderson's on the air. He's boozed up.

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And that Mitch McConnell hates Trump and is ready to vote no on anybody who's controversial. That could include Pete, probably will include Pete. And then there's Joni Ernst of Iowa, red state, who says she hasn't made up her mind. She's not yet a no, but I mean, I know her a bit and she's got a whole career of caring about sexual assault in the military and trying to clean that up.

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I just just like, look, the fact that Pete may have had a beer on a St. Patrick's Day, Fox and Friends. This is ridiculous. We've fallen below all standards.

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Yeah. He had some beers. Here's one more. Um, Someone named Denise Wheeler, who is a partner and designer at Rebel Create, a marketing agency, decides to tweet out this image of of of Pete Hexeth. And this is why I use the term thirst trap, because some of the people responding responded in that way. And she says the following. She did not mean it as a compliment.

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She writes Trump's pick for secretary of defense with this picture. Look at this. of Pete. You see him there?

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Yeah. And he's in like short little shorts and he's putting an American flag. It looks like he's, he's just holding it over his shoulder as he pays homage at the nine 11 war Memorial. And she says like, this is your secretary of defense visiting the nine 11 Memorial in his underwear. The Pentagon has nothing to worry about. Our armed forces have longed to be led by a drunk rapist in his underwear.

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You should be sued, Denise Wheeler. I hope Tim Pallottori files a lawsuit against you today for calling him a drunk rapist. I really do. I hope you get sued today. Then Jerry Dunleavy responds, he's not in his underwear. He is in a bathing suit. This image is from the end of the New York City seal swim across the Hudson River.

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The event raises money for the seal community, veterans and their families. The legs of the swim end at the World Trade Center Memorial. You absolute fucking dumbass.

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Maureen, this guy was at Princeton. 9-11 happens, and he volunteers to go join ROTC and fight and go down to Gitmo. That's where he was sent. Who's at Princeton on their way toward seven-figure salaries at law firms or banks, et cetera? I know. Then they see the 9-11. How dare this woman? How dare she question his fitness, his patriotism, his appropriateness?

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What kind of an idiot sees that and just assumes, oh, he just decided to go pay homage in his underwear?

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Could it possibly be he might have a good reason? But no, we've got to assume the worst. Why? Because it's a Trump cabinet pick. So I don't know. Does he make it? I mean, what would you say to the Joni Ernst of the world who are just cannot see him through any lens other than serial, you know, cheater and not a great guy when it comes to his romantic partners?

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And she herself is a service member and, And this is something she's been priding herself on as a US Senator. And this is her committee, the Senate Armed Services Committee. So it's her bailiwick. And I don't think she's in love with Pete Hegseth. And I think she actually could be a no, notwithstanding the pressure I'm sure she's getting. She hasn't said no yet, but that would do it.

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I mean, Katie Britt did. She was good on it. Senator from Alabama. But these are the ones who are more moderate, who are names potentially to stop it. And you know what the other thing is? If it's sexual assault, like I know and admire the fact that Joni Ernst has fought to stop sexual assault in the military, which is a real problem. She's to be credited for that, not demonized.

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But that's not Pete. There's one allegation of that against him, and it's completely bullshit, in my opinion. It looks obviously made up. So that should not be something that concerns you about this guy. There's nothing in his history other than this one, what looks like an apparently bogus claim, to suggest he's a sexual assaulter, right?

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So it's like Pete absolutely can look at the men and women of the military and say, it's a no, we're going to reform. There's not going to be any tolerance for that. There's really truly no evidence that he's ever done that to anybody. There's this one claim from a woman who's been panicked because the husband was down the hall while she was sleeping with Pete.

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I just think like you're misdirecting your claims about how he is in his personal relationships. Yes. to something much more bigger and much, much more serious and bigger.

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Now, we were talking about yesterday how if Pete's blood is in the water, RFKJ is going to get killed. Yeah, he will. Would you put some meat on that bone, please?

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That would kill the nomination. Having said that, there is a groundswell of support for Pete happening right now amongst the troops, which is going to be very hard for any one of those four to resist if it gets loud enough. What do you make of it?

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Right, and there's no way, you see, if they allow Pete to go down without the full pressure campaign on these senators, if they allow this, how, RFKJ's done, he's toast. Because like you just heard it, audience, like it's not going to get better when they get to RFKJ. That's just one little piece of his controversies.

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And I do support him and I love the nomination, but I recognize a very controversial guy and we've never had somebody quite like him elevated and having to go through a confirmation hearing. So how on earth are those senators going to turn around and say, oh, but he's fine. Exactly. He's fine. They can't. Right. They can't. This is the whole game right here. We're talking about the whole game.

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Right. Not to mention Tulsi, who's being accused of being a Russian agent. No sooner did Michael Knowles leave the show yesterday than we had a letter from all these so-called intelligence experts accusing her of being an asset again.

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Yeah. I want RFKJ to do to these institutions what he did in his second marriage. Blow it up. I just I just I like I've gotten to the point where I just don't give a damn about their personal foibles. I do kind of see them as somewhat related to their willingness to go into these institutions and cause havoc. I know it sounds weird, but I think we're trying something new with Trump, too.

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It's the perfect gift, but don't wait too long or you might miss out. Firecracker Farm Hot Salt. Handcrafted, flavorful, unforgettable. Get yours today at firecracker.farm. Let's talk about what's happening with the Jordan Neely case first. Daniel Penny is the defendant. Jordan Neely is the man who died.

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It appears the jury's hung on the most serious charge, which is whether he recklessly caused the death of Jordan Neely. The second charge is whether he was criminally negligent in causing Jordan Neely's death. Or they could, of course, acquit him entirely of these charges because he was clearly a good Samaritan trying to protect the passengers on that subway car where this altercation took place.

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Just a quick refresher for those who don't remember. Jordan Neely came onto the subway train. He was acting irrationally. He was saying he didn't care if he died or went to prison. He was threatening passengers. Passengers were scared. And Daniel Penny got up and got him in a headlock and subdued him and the crazy behavior.

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And ultimately, Jordan Neely died because, well, he didn't have enough oxygen, but he also had some other health problems that were introduced at trial as potentially contributing or indeed possibly the cause. So I think a lot of us believed that this jury was going to come back like that with an acquittal. No, we're now on, I think, day four of deliberations.

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And just before we came to air, the jury had sent a note into the judge saying we can't agree on the first charge, the most serious charge. Now, that doesn't necessarily tell us whether they're in agreement on the criminally negligent homicide charge. I don't know how the jury instructions read. You know, normally they'll say, did he recklessly cause the death of this person? If yes.

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you know, move on to number two. I don't know what the direction was. Like, did they have to start with number one? Could they have started with number two? Whatever. I assume... Number two should be easier for them because they're only saying they're deadlocked on number one. And so they went into court and said to the judge, we're deadlocked.

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And the judge asked the lawyers, what should the instruction be, which is normal. And the defense said it's a mistrial, which was a nice try, but yeah, probably not. And the prosecution said, tell him to go back in and continue deliberating. And it looks like that's what the judge has done. Um, I'm, there's just been, there's been like update after update when we've been on the air.

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Let me, let me just give you the latest. Okay. Um, the judge said he thinks the jury could move on to consider count to criminally negligent homicide, even if they're deadlocked on count one. Um, Um, he asks the DA's brain trust to work on it. The reporting here is still in the courtroom, wondering how fast the jury will come back. This is from Matthew Russell at inner city publication.

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Uh, the judge, we got the next note. So the jury, he sent them back in to continue deliberating. Then they sent out a note almost immediately thereafter saying, we, the jury request further clarification on whether a person reasonably believes force is necessary. We would like more on what is a reasonable person. They're obviously divided.

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The judge responded, there's a passage in People vs. Gates or Goats. And then he chuckles because he realizes people, I don't know. I don't know why he chuckled. In which they note that reasonableness must be based on circumstances. So clarifying. The judge says, bring them back out. The jury's entering.

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The judge says to the jury, reasonableness is up to you to decide what would a reasonable person do in this situation? He must have honestly believed that Jordan Neely was going to use physical force against him or someone else. And now the jury's getting lunch and we'll come back. It's I mean, I'd be very worried if I were the defense right now.

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Wouldn't happen. This prosecutor has got a history of it, of giving preferential treatment to so-called marginalized criminals. Here she is bragging about it in SOT 6.

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No way. No one. If this guy goes down on any one of these charges, criminally negligent or reckless, he's no one will.

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He seems to be on Daniel Penny's side. But... This is his MTA. Exactly. Get those things down. A lot of good that does him. Just a bit of info on what the jury has been saying. They wanted, in the course of the deliberations, we've gotten some clues into what we seem to be seeing today, which is they are considering a guilty verdict. It is not that simple for them.

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They wanted, first, a definition of recklessness and a definition of negligence. And just to reiterate, to convict Penny of manslaughter, they have to convince the jury that he acted recklessly, that he grossly deviated from how a reasonable person would behave. See, that's why they're asking what would a reasonable person do. They're stuck on the manslaughter charge.

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And then there's a lower charge about criminally negligent homicide that they're considering as well. That would mean you failed to perceive a substantial risk that your actions or inaction would result in another person's death. Okay, they also wanted to see two videos. One is referred to as the Vasquez video. One is as the Rosario video.

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The video by Vasquez is a Mexican freelance journalist, Juan Alberto Vasquez. It's nearly six minutes long. It's a cell phone clip. of Penny with Neely in the chokehold. It recaptures a different off-camera bystander named Larry Goodson, we're showing it here, expressing concern for Neely's life and saying that he will need to be released if he exhibits certain physical reactions.

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Penny did not respond. This witness, Larry Goodson testified on Monday, quote, he was in a whole other trance. The Rosario video is a minute long cell phone clip that briefly shows Penny and Neely plus a bystander voice that says he's dying. Let him go here. Take a look at this. Y'all got to hold him down. You got to hold him down. And there's a voice in there saying he's dying. Let him go.

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The woman who took the video, Yvette Rosario, who's 19, took the stand in this case and testified that she was so afraid of Neely, quote, I thought I was going to pass out. So, I mean, I understand why the jury, if they're just trying to follow the letter of the law and what's been placed in front of them, may be struggling.

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They're saying, oh, okay, there's somebody who said on the side, release him if certain things happen. They say Penny was in a trance as he had this guy in a chokehold. And now you've got this one bystander saying he's dying, letting let him go. And Penny didn't respond. That's the case. The prosecution's building that he was on notice that Neely was dying and he continued holding on to him.

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That's probably the kind of thing they're debating inside that jury room right now.

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And assault is somebody else not long thereafter. Or not long before this. It was a 67-year-old woman who he punched in November 2021. And he pleaded guilty in that one. And he got a slap on the wrist for it. They bent over backward to get him to stay out of prison. So he went into some, you know, treatment facility and 13 days later he, he ran from it.

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He got out in April of 2023 outreach workers approached him on the subway at in one of the cars and Coney Island. And what did he do? He urinated in front of them. when he's got a long history of assaults, arrests, more than three dozen arrests, and drug use that made him out of his mind.

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And now we're supposed to say, well, Daniel Penny should have listened to some rander passerby who had no skin in the game, who was not there holding the guy, who was not on the receiving end of his heaving motions. Let go. Let him go. Saying, oh, he's dying.

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So on the subject of New York City, this incredible assassination... that happened on Wednesday is everywhere. I'm sure my audience has heard about this.

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Uh, the CEO of United healthcare, which, you know, I mean, millions of Americans have as their healthcare system, uh, insurer was walking to a conference on Wednesday morning, very early in the morning at 6 40 AM from one hotel to the other from his hotel where he was staying over to the neighboring hotel. And there was an assassin lying in wait with a gun that had a silencer on it. He'd been

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following him and came out, shot him twice, one in the back and one in the leg. Oh, it was so awful. He falls, he stumbles. My God, he had no chance. And then walks around to finish the job. And the police are still on a manhunt for the assassin. They figured out that he stayed at a hostel, that he wore the mask almost the entire time he was at the hostel.

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He took it down only for a brief moment when a girl with whom he was flirting asked him to. And he's on camera smiling when we should show the picture, pretty extraordinary. photo looking at him seeming kind of happy. And, you know, this is not long before he committed a murder.

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And then he got on one of those, it wasn't a city bike, but it was one of those bikes that you can get in New York and took off into Central Park. And now they're wondering whether he dumped the outfit he was wearing in Central Park because they seem to have lost him someplace in Central Park and they haven't found him since. Now there's a lot of speculation about, is this a professional hit?

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You know, did somebody put this guy up to it? He had written something on the bullet. I don't have it in front of me. It was like destroy, depose. I can't remember the third D. It was like deny.

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Okay, there you go. And that may relate to something that has been said in insurance circles about claims and And so there's a debate about whether this is an assassination like some, you know, the Russians, you know, something that professional. Many think no, because his cell phone, which is a burner phone, was left at the scene. And there was some sloppiness around the crime.

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But on the other hand, he got away. He used a silencer. He was very familiar with a gun because it jammed and he was able to recover immediately. And now you have ghouls like Taylor Lorenz, who wrote for The New York Times and The Washington Post about two minutes ago until she was recently fired, I think, for saying something negative about Joe Biden that they couldn't. She tried to deny she did.

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Hello, when he didn't flirt with you the whole night, when you thought it was in your purview to lecture him on how he treats women. 100%, she's his handler. Right, getting him back to his hotel room at 1.30. When you go into his room on your own and have sex with a man who is a stranger to you, expect no better. Exactly. Expect no better. And that applies to her and all women.

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And it was obvious she did it. Can't remember what it was. It was about the Israel-Palestinian conflict. That he's a war criminal, I think it was. Anyway, she got fired. Now she's writing a sub stack celebrating this. I'm glad he's dead. And then after people are like, you know, you sound like a disgusting ghoul. Well, I'm not, I'm not calling for his murder, but it's a good thing he's dead.

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And other insurance agents, agent representatives should be dead too.

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Good call. I mean, it's a very dicey job. There are two, at least, issues here. No, nobody condones what happened to this poor man. It's horrifying. Um, and Taylor Lorenz is a nut, but it is leading people to speak out about what's happening in the insurance industry. I mean, my own take on it is now's not the time we should get to that. Right.

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We should still focus first on this, this assassination, how it happened. like how the guy got away so quickly. I can't believe the NYPD hasn't tracked him down yet. When I saw that there was a picture of him and that they had, um, the cell phone with at least a smudged fingerprint, uh, and possibly something else that he had, like a water bottle that might have DNA.

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I thought they'd have him in two minutes, Maureen. I know, but life doesn't work like CSI does. And they have not found him yet. I mean, the guy could be in Columbia right now. I know we have no idea. Um, So that's one. And then the second, complaints about insurance.

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I mean, I have to say, crazy Taylor Lorenz was bitching about when, in like her nastiest tweet, she was complaining about Blue Cross Blue Shield, the anthem Blue Cross Blue Shield, with a new policy that would have limited coverage of anesthesia based on time. time limits. So I used to be married to an anesthesiologist and a lung transplant, a liver transplant can last 18 hours.

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What if they only cover you for eight? You got to pay out of pocket for the last 10, even though that's how long your surgery takes, 18 hours. Sorry it didn't go faster. And so that's terrible, but this is not the time for her to be... painting these guys as ghouls. But the interesting thing is NBC reporting that Blue Cross Blue Shield is not going to proceed with that policy change.

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It reversed course on December 5th. After it had been announced, it led to outrage across social media from average users to government officials. I mean- The killing of CEO Brian Thompson is deeply disturbing. It says a lot about who we are, where we are, and I wonder if it says something about New York because it's starting to feel like the Wild West out there.

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And no one saw him. There was no police officer nearby. Like, how did they not... How did they not get him? There's not a lot of crime at that hour of the day. It would have seemed like any police officer in the region would have gotten to him, you know, tootsweet, but got away.

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And I don't know now whether they will get him because partial smudged finger, you know, print is not really that persuasive. What we've seen today is... They found out that the weapon that was used in the shooting was purchased in Connecticut. That, yes, indeed, they found a water bottle. That's where the fingerprint was lifted but smudged. The burner phone has been retrieved.

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It could yield fingerprints and possibly even communications, though we don't know whether it has so far. The surveillance video shows the suspect leaving the 57th Street F train station before the shooting, approximately 6.15 a.m., 30 minutes before the shooting. Extensive video canvas led police to the area of a hostel where he was staying. He almost never lowered his mask or his hood.

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They're looking into whether his getaway bike was pre-positioned, which could be caught on video if it was. There is video, they believe, according to CNN, of the suspect on the Upper West Side carrying what appears to be an electronic bicycle battery.

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Wall Street Journal reporting that Brian Thompson was one of three United executives named in a lawsuit from a Florida pension in May, accusing United of hiding a DOJ antitrust investigation into United from shareholders while insiders like Brian sold stock.

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In other words, we got left holding the bag on our stock investments, and you didn't, including $15 million in Thompson's personally held shares. He and his wife, Paulette, had been living in separate homes a mile apart from one another in Maple Grove, Minnesota, for several years. They had two sons. Sounds like they were separated, but somewhat possibly amicable.

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She told NBC News, I can't talk about this right now. I'm trying to deal with my sons, with my children. The police departments in Maple Grove, again, this is per the Wall Street Journal, say they had received no complaints about threats to Thompson, though Paulette said to NBC he had received something about denial of coverage.

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And the piece of it, like the celebration, I mean, we're just so ghoulish. I know. This is Taylor Lorenz trying to... rehabilitate herself. So she had tweeted out after his murder, that Blue Cross Blue Shield article. And she wrote, and people wonder why we want these executives dead. Now that's disgusting. And she's sick. She's a sick person who we should not be listening to.

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But this is her defending herself. So I'll counteract my own mandate not to listen to her. But she is pointing out something that a Facebook post about the CEO's passing was met with over 23,000 laughing emojis before it was taken down. People were thirsting after the assassin online. Quote, every woman I know is down catastrophic for the UnitedHealthcare CEO assassin, wrote one ex-user.

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I just like, I'm so disgusted by that. The lack of humanity. Like I can't, she makes it so that I can't really discuss her blue claws, blue shield argument. Like I just really want to run from this disgusting person who has no empathy for a dead man's grieving children. I know.

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They know who he is. They should know who he is. We had an author who wrote a really interesting book. I cannot remember the name of it off the top of my head. My team will remind me. But she came on to talk about that AI facial recognition technology and how the police officers are using it. The police stations and departments across the country are already using it.

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We were talking about it from a creepy perspective where you can get it to the point where you put on glasses, you know, like you and I go into a bar and I've got these glasses on and I can see that guy over there is Joe Schmiss. Cashmere Hill was the name of the author. I can see. Your Face Belongs to Us was the name of her book, Your Face Belongs to Us.

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And I can see like, that's Joe Smith right there. And this is where he lives. And like all the information is coming from my glasses that have facial recognition technology. So there's no question they ran those images through what they have. And by the way, when you run it through the police department's, you know, technology, it gives you so many pictures of the person.

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Like she was writing about how it pulled her from like when she was much younger and in the background in somebody else's family Facebook post, you know. Oh my God. It's insanely good. And so it's just, as soon as I saw the maskless photo, I was like, he's toast. They're going to have this guy in two minutes. They certainly should have an identity and maybe they do.

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Could Joni Ernst, the possible villain in our soap opera, be the one who stands in his way? Or will Dark Horse, Governor Ron DeSantis in his navy whites, ride in from the sunset and declare himself the victor? Joining me now to discuss all of this and breaking news in the New York trial of Daniel Penny, one of our favorite guests, Maureen Callahan, columnist for the Daily Mail.

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And they're just not telling us yet. Steve, tell me what episode that was. Cause people might want to go back and listen to that now. I do believe they're going to catch him. I just think we're not CSI, but we're, we're pretty good. We've come leaps and bounds from where we were back in, you know, the Joe Friday days of law enforcement. So fingers crossed they catch this guy.

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Very, very disturbing stuff. Okay. Oh, it's episode 696. All right. We're going to take a quick break and then we're going to come back. There's such, there's a lot more to get to, including guess who's speaking out? Maureen and my favorite person, Prince Harry. Talk about that in a minute. Don't go away. For those of us holding our breath for the past several months, we can exhale.

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I think it's that right now under Trump, we have a few, you know, nominees with questionable pasts. And with Pete, I will limit my remarks to just the stuff that he's admitted. You know, cheating on all three of your wives is not a badge of honor. But I think that there is something about people who are attracted to Trump and to MAGA that is... admirable.

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Work can finally be done on the major issues this country's facing, one of the most significant being our national debt. The fact is our nation's broke, and that debt is a house of cards that cannot be quickly dismantled. So the strategy remains the same. You might want to diversify your savings. This is why I want to tell you about Birch Gold.

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Plus, right now through Black Friday, you will receive a free one-out silver eagle for every $5,000 purchased. Protect your savings with Birch Gold. Text MK to 989898 and claim your eligibility for free silver today. I'm Megyn Kelly, host of The Megyn Kelly Show on Sirius XM.

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So Maureen, while we've made some strides in getting rid of the vicious, vile wokeness from certain areas of public life, the schools are still a hot mess. And New York City schools among the worst.

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Imagine sending your child to public school where they have to take your kid because you pay taxes, but they use your tax dollars not to spend the day teaching your child about math and English and possibly learning a foreign language, but about crap language. like this when it comes to gender. Now, stand by. We're going to run this for you.

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This is from Wagner Middle School on the Upper East Side of Manhattan. Again, this is a public school, and this was, we are told, supposed to have been a seventh grade Spanish class, okay? Listen to what somebody taped. It's right outside of the classroom. The instruction, they heard the instruction, turned on a tape recorder, and sent it to us. This is an exclusive. Listen here.

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That's we like it, but it may come with some scars on the guys and the gals where you're ready to fight. You will fight convention. You will middle finger, even the, the Pentagon brass, like F you, I'm not going by your rules anymore. And it does require sort of a rebellious streak, which isn't developed overnight.

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Okay, just to give you a couple of highlights if it was difficult to hear. She's instructing when we're born, the doctor, they looked at our bodies, said, congrats to the boy or girl. They put you on birth certificate. That's your gender assigned at birth. Everyone has one, but you're absolutely right. People who are transgender say, that's not who I am. That's not how I feel.

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I identify as a different gender. So that can look a lot of different ways. That's all it is to be transgender, but people can absolutely do all, What you said, transition. Some people might medically transition. They might take certain hormones. They might have certain surgical procedures so that their bodies match the way they feel. That's all.

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It's just a little surgery so that you can match the way you feel. But not every trans person does that. Some people you know might not have the resources or the means to do that. It's very expensive. I identify as something called gender fluid. Oh my God. So for me, my gender just kind of shifts and changes. Sometimes I feel more masculine, sometimes more feminine.

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Sometimes I feel more in between. And so I just use all these pronouns. I didn't change my name. That's what's happening in the seventh grade at Wagner Middle School, a public school in New York City. So we reach out to them to say, what the, right? What's happening? So we say, okay, we're producers for the Megyn Kelly Show. We're looking into this story.

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We understand some comments made during seventh grade Spanish class at Wagner. Do you have any comment on the teacher telling the students the following? Was the school aware of this? Can you confirm? Then the middle school principal, Jen Wren Losquandro, was the first to respond. Um, the New York city public school media department will support a response to your inquiry.

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Then at 1230 first response from Nicole Brownstein, first deputy press secretary, New York city public schools. Thanks for reaching out. Wagner middle school does not have a seventh grade Spanish class period. That's it. No, absolutely no inquiry. Like where's this happening? We'll get on it. Why are they teaching kids that you can be gender fluid in the middle of class? What's happening?

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Um, we responded back. Are you aware of any Spanish class at Wagner middle school? Have you received any information about any teachers or staff at this school making statements like this to students? And if so, is this appropriate? Then 104, this woman, Nicole, responds back. This is, again, from the New York City Public School first deputy press secretary.

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There are two Spanish teachers at the school. Both identify as male and do not identify as gender-fluid. okay, Nicole, this isn't going to work with us, sweetheart. You're going to have to be a little bit more forthcoming because we're on it like a dog with a bone. We responded back. We've been informed that there was some sort of presentation from a group called PFLAG at the school.

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Can you confirm if this is accurate? If so, was class time interrupted for this organization to speak to students? Can you confirm which classes got the presentation? Were parents informed about this? Were they able to opt in or opt out? Again, does New York City Public Schools believe this is an appropriate use of taxpayer funds? Classroom, time.

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So we just got their latest response and here it is. PFLAG New York City is an independent organization that New York City public schools partners with under appropriate circumstances to teach students about inclusion and understanding of LGBTQ plus issues. No parents at this school have raised concerns about this programming, which was given as part of health class. So it did happen and

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You did bring in a group. You did interrupt instruction of actual academics to shove this trans ideology down the throats of 12-year-olds. And though you tried to dodge and weave our repeated requests, we caught you. And let me tell you something. If you're so certain that no parents at your school have a problem with this, no one's complaining, how did we get the video?

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And so it can come with some bumps and bruises that you wouldn't see on your typical sec def nominee, but net net could be a benefit to your performance in the job. We're just not used to this. We don't usually nominate candidates with those kinds of scars. Usually they've been deal breakers right from the get go. But after we put a commander in chief in place who cheated on three wives and

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Ask yourself that, New York City schools. Who do you think tape recorded and sent it to the MK show? Do you think it was a really happy customer, either employed by you or paying tax dollars to send their kid there? Or maybe even a kid who thought you were being inappropriate.

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You'll never know because you just assume everybody's on board with your radical ideology, which is pernicious and dangerous, suggesting you could just have the surgeries. And it's really not a thing, Maureen.

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We're making it so they'll have no sexual function. and no sexual enjoyment for the rest of their lives. I mean, truly it eliminates the ability to achieve climax in a sexual interaction. These drugs, the puberty blockers into cross-sex hormones, who the hell can make that kind of a decision for a 10 year old that it's abuse, it's child abuse. And they're presenting it to these children.

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Like it's just not even a thing. And here are my multiple pronouns indoctrinating them early at 11 and 12 years old into this. And we can't even get straight answers out of the people who work for us. Now we got a follow-up with some of the books that they're pushing on these children. Look at this, look at this. There is a man with a beard dressed like a woman. I'll show it to you.

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The first is this book is anti-racist. Okay, great. And now you'll see the book that I was talking about with the man He's coming. With a beard, dressed like a woman, with things like, be who you want to be. Look at this crap being shoved on middle schoolers. Be who you want to be. And gender stereotypes are damaging for both boys and girls. And there's no right way to be a boy or a girl.

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Another page details a person's transition process in their 30s. And books pictured include, this book is anti-racist. We're in this together, by Linda Sarsour. Social justice handbook, understanding gender. Numerous books about race, like...

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The Colonization of Hawaii, a book, We Are Not Free by Tracy Chee, described as a nuanced narrative of the Japanese-American experience during World War II and on. They're dying to make these kids into social justice warriors. The pedal is still to the metal when it comes to woke-ifying our children. That battle has not been solved by President Trump winning term two.

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We're like, you just kind of have to reevaluate whether you're going to continue making these the standards, because I guarantee you Mark Milley probably has an impeccable reputation. past when it comes to wives. He probably does. We don't care.

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They have dollar signs in their pupils when they look at these children who say I'm gender confused. It's a pipeline that just keeps repeating. It's absolutely disgusting. Okay. We have so much to choose from. I'm not sure where I should go. Let's see. Let's do Prince Harry on his divorce rumors in SOT16.

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Yes. This is the year. Yes. You know, you're absolutely right. Why is he there other than because he's a super celebrity and Aaron Sorkin wanted to interview him and get pick up for it? And why did Harry show up? Andrew Ross Sorkin. I always screw them up. Um, and why did he show up? If he hates attention, he can't stand it.

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It's a bad that people are interested in his marriage and in him, but here I am, look at me. And then he did another little bit on how he's not settling his case against Rupert Murdoch on the phone hacking, hacking scandal, because it's about accountability.

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It's about accountability because he really has a real issue with how he's been treated by the press and how his wife has been treated by the press. Meanwhile, they're famous because of the press. And the reason they got all their money is because of the press. And he and she have been using the press for decades.

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But when it doesn't quite suit them, he's going to be the champion to bring them down.

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And hostessing. I'm really looking forward to that. I can't wait. That I will watch. Cannot wait. She's decided to appoint herself CEO of their Montecito lifestyle brand after a fruitless search to find someone able to meet her expectations, according to the Daily Mail. Shockingly, no one wants to work for her, Maureen.

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At some point, you're going to have to do it yourself, right? So many people don't want to work for you. You have no choice but to say, okay, I'll do it. But you know what? Ultimately, you can't run a business that way. So she's going to have to get a little nicer or at least find people who don't read the paper and see all the reports about how she treats people.

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Maureen Callahan, such a pleasure. Such a pleasure, Megan. Thank you. Have a great weekend. You too. Thanks to all of you. We'll be back on Monday. Thanks for listening. You have a great weekend too. And don't forget, go to megankelly.com, sign up for our once a week email where we give you the highlights of the show and we got a good one for you this week. Thank you all. See you Monday.

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Thanks for listening to The Megan Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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But no, but if I think about like, would I want my daughter marrying a man who had cheated on all three of his wives and she was maybe number four? No, the answer would be hard. No, hard. No. So it's, I don't even, I lost my train of thought. No, you're just saying like, it's hard because you're, it's not like you would necessarily bounce him because of the infidelities.

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But I think it's genuine because, I mean, I know what you're saying. I haven't heard Pete do a lot of Jesus talk. So that was new to me too, to hear him talk like that. But I think what happened was he cheated on wife number two with Jen Ruscha, the former Fox and Friends producer. He impregnated his affair partner. The second wife divorced him as soon as Jen gave birth. to the baby.

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Jen also had, I think, three kids from her. She was cheating as well. And that can be a catastrophic moment in somebody's life. I mean, no question that was traumatic on all parties involved. And I think that kind of thing can lead to some reflection. And then the mother's email, which was a good email. I mean, I feel like the mom is a good mom. Like, get your ass in shape. I'm ashamed of you.

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I told Steve Callahan we should get like some sort of an animation for like the soap opera of As the Transition Turns, and he did it. It's amazing. I love it. The music, perfect score. Yeah. Is the education system the cause and solution to the biggest problems facing America?

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That's good. That's good parenting. Ideally, it happens early in one's life, earlier than it did with Pete. Right. But I really believe that it could have knocked him straight. And that's when he joined this church. And that's when he wound up getting the tattoos. Like you're not going to tattoo your body like that if you're not actually feeling faithful and connected.

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So I think there is some evidence that it's legit. And I don't know Pete to be a liar, nor have I seen a past that suggests, of course, while he was cheating, he's lying. But I just mean outside of that context. And there's no evidence that he's led a life of deceit outside of this strain of being a womanizer.

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So you're like whether it's genuine or not. Stop mentioning it because it's like don't use the Lord's name in this context as you're like witness of your character change. It seems like too much. You're coming on too strong.

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Yeah. Well, it seems to be working a little because Trump is, you know, this tweet, this true social that he posted. He wouldn't have done that if he thought Pete was dead in the water. And, you know, the confirmation hearings have not yet started. Right now, it's not looking like they necessarily will pull Pete before we get there. Right.

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I'm also hearing that the Ron DeSantis rumors are not necessarily real, that there's... No goodwill between Trump and DeSantis, though they are now reportedly going to the army Navy game together. I don't know when that is this week or next week.

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Um, and, but there's rumors that the DeSantis team, they're the ones behind pushing his name and that Trump may be playing with him, but he's not actually going to give him a post like that. That is so funny. And you know, Susie Wiles, who's Trump's chief of staff hates Ron DeSantis. Oh, well, she worked for him. And it ended badly. So that's another piece of palace intrigue.

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Check out a fantastic podcast from PragerU that's tackling difficult topics and conversations through the lens of education. Real Talk with Marissa Streit. As a mother, former educator, and the CEO of PragerU, Marissa believes that education got America into the mess we're in and that it will get us out.

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And then let me give you another piece of reporting that I can give you here. Okay. I want to make sure I get it correct. Um, there is the, uh, non-disclosure agreement between Pete and the accuser in that alleged rape case out of Monterey, California.

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And so she came back a couple of years after the alleged, after the incident, which was in 17 and in 2020, I think they said, yeah, 2020, she wanted money to stay silent and he paid it. We don't know what the number was, but he paid it. And she was required to stay silent about what happened between the two of them.

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Well, now we see somebody leak a memo to the Trump transition team saying this is everything that happened. Pete's a rapist. Right. So somebody violated the nondisclosure and it wasn't Pete. Right. So this woman violated it or someone around her violated it. And my experience with these kinds of confidentiality agreements, typically they would encompass anyone you told.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and happy Friday. Yay, we made it. Later today, Mike Solana is back with me in studio. I'm really looking forward to that. I really liked him the last time. But we begin today with our legal eagles, our top legal team on Lawfare 2.0.

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It tells me John Roberts is missing. A hefty pair. I'm sorry, but that's what it tells me. You tell me, Mike, John Roberts could have said I by himself. He had the power to say, no, that temporary injunction injunction that was just upheld by the Court of Appeals is lifted. No, you're not doing that. And there could have been a slap down. But now he wants to bring it to the whole court.

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OK, fine, we'll do that. But the Supreme Court should ASAP issue an order slapping down the district judge and the Court of Appeals for not understanding the difference between a legal question and a political one.

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There was an amazing, amazing piece posted to National Review this week, co-authored by John Yoo and Robert J. Delahunty, both of whom are very well-respected attorneys. John Yoo was instrumental in the Trump administration. My friend Glenn Greenwald Greenwald would really want me to tell you that his defense of some of the overreaches on torture and so on were inexcusable.

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That is some people's view of John Yoo. I think he's brilliant. And in this co-authored piece on National Review, they lay out they lay it out so clearly. I urge everybody to go and read it. The title of it is Stand By. The court's overstep in the messy clash with Trump over trend to Aragua. And here is what they say in part. OK, I'm going to read from it.

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Courts are not allowed to decide, quote, political questions. Political questions from the dawn of time have been left to the other branches because those political branches are directly answerable to us. So if they screw up a political question, we will fire their asses. But we cannot fire federal district court judges. They have lifetime tenure.

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The two to one decision by the Court of Appeals upholding Boasberg intrudes into the province of the elected branches of government over war and national security. A federal court has never before overruled the decision of a president or Congress that the United States has suffered an attack or an invasion. They go on to say. Judicial review does not extend to every constitutional question.

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The Supreme Court itself has long recognized that there are certain political questions which the Constitution itself has committed to the final decision of the president or Congress or which have no legal standards that the courts can apply. That's the problem here. There's no... And Judge Boasberg does not know better than Trump whether an invasion has happened. He doesn't.

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There are no legal standards for him to use in determining that. That is a call by the chief executive, by the commander in chief, who is getting intelligence briefings, who has classified information coming to him on a daily basis of what the Venezuelans are doing. And as we pointed out in another piece that we discussed earlier this week, which we mentioned by Bart Marquardt,

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There is evidence that the Venezuelan government works with Trenda Aragua and has intentionally sent them here. Quoting here from the piece, the Venezuelan this is from this is from law enforcement, high level investigator who is actually on the ground. saying, quote, the Venezuelan regime has assumed operational control of Trend Aragua, has trained 300 of them.

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They've given them paramilitary training, training them to fire weapons and how to conduct sabotage. They have given them all a four- to six-week course. They put these 300 guys through that course, and then they were deploying them into the United States at 20 separate states, in 20 separate states.

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And by the way, the Alien Enemies Act, Dave, only requires that there be an attempted, an attempted... predatory incursion. We're there.

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How how do you say Judge Boasberg is better positioned with zero, zero presidential daily briefs, zero access to classified information that he gets from Tulsi Gabbard and all those around him who head up the Pentagon and the national intelligence branches to make a call on whether we're suffering from an attempted predatory incursion? How is he better suited than the commander in chief?

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So but just just for the record, that's twice you've gotten out of bounds on alien enemies. Once you said they basically get a habeas review, which is a different thing. And secondly, you said that this may be torture, which is a different thing on the big, big question of whether Trump can use the Alien Enemies Act to summarily deport. suspected Venezuelan gang members.

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It's a win for President Trump. And once that's a win for President Trump, we can nitpick about whether an individual guy gets a habeas review, etc. But it's a huge win for the Trump administration. And it's very important one, because what the leftist ACLU right now is trying to do is clip the wings of our sitting commander in chief. Go ahead.

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But also, can I just say I'm reading here again from the John you piece. OK. Recognizing these limits to the judicial role is no dereliction of duty in Marbury versus Madison. The very case that first declared the power of judicial review that in that case, the court said we say what the lies the courts are the ones who say what the law is.

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And so that's just part of why it's been so controversial what they've been doing to stop Trump. I mean, the whole Trump second presidency in its crib.

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Chief Justice John Marshall used his own discretion, quote. OK, he says for his decisions, quote, he, the president, is accountable only to his country in his political character and to his own conscience, end quote. His choices cannot be questioned in court because, quote, the subjects are political, end quote. These issues, quote, respect the nation, not individual rights.

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And being entrusted to the executive, the decision of the executive is conclusive. They, too, understood, Dave, that if it's a political question, it is not the courts that have the final say.

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Congress of 1798 that did that, Dave. He makes it sound like it's Mike Johnson. Mike Davis, you know, like it was the Congress of 1798 that said we are choosing to give the executive these extraordinary powers and without judicial review and the Supreme Court. in interpreting that act said there's no judicial review of this.

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Joining me now to debate, Dave Ehrenberg, former state attorney general, state attorney, I should say, for Palm Beach County, Florida, and now managing partner of Dave Ehrenberg Law, as well as a frequent contributor to the Legal AF YouTube channel. And Mike Davis, founder and president of the Article 3 Project. He lives his life saying Legal AF. That's his core motto. You can see Dave on MSNBC.

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It's a political question that we are out of our lane if we try to take on. Mike, let me get you to weigh in on it. Let me just read you just another little snippet from the John UP's. Again, well worth everyone's time. He goes on to say. Courts have studiously avoided second guessing the decisions of the elected branches of government.

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Federal judges refused to rule on the legality of not just the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, but every war in American history, even the Guantanamo Bay cases. There they defer to the decision of President George W. Bush, etc. Now he goes on to say the following. In the case by the D.C.

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Circuit that that affirmed the temporary restraining order against Trump's deportation powers under alien alien enemies. He says the D.C. Circuit ignored the judiciary's traditional deference on questions of war. Judge Karen Henderson's opinion. Karen. Karen, sorry. She displayed little modesty in rejecting the claim that Trenda Aragua's conduct qualified as an invasion.

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Based on her review of the history of the 1798 act, she concluded that an invasion, quote, required far more than an unwanted entry to constitute an invasion. There had to be hostilities. She observes that, quote, in every instance. In the Constitution, in laws and debates of the time, invasion is used in a military sense. Same goes, she concludes, for predatory incursions. Yu goes on.

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On this ground alone, the Supreme Court should grant emergency review of this case. Federal judges do not have the capability, the understanding or access to information to make sensitive decisions on whether a foreign actor represents a national security threat, nor can they judge the harms that could arise from action or inaction.

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Courts are not designed to make policy decisions involving probabilities and risks, which are characteristic of war and national security. Mike.

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OK, now let's talk about the individual rights. I really feel it very strongly, contrary to what you say, Dave, contrary to the argument I had with Charles C.W. Cook on this podcast two weeks ago. Trump has this power under the Alien Enemies Act, and it's really clear. And I think these judges are way out over their skis.

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And I actually do have hope that the Supreme Court is going to slap them and hard and remind them that they're unelected judges, that nobody elected them to do anything. They're not commander in chief. Judge Boasberg's had his fun playing mini commander. He's not. However, on the right to individual review where one person says, wait, I'm not trend to Iroquois, that actually can be heard.

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And the administration has conceded that they've conceded that. And actually, if I went back and did a dive, my God helped me into Iraq. Other cases interpreting the Alien and Enemy Act, including one that came down in 1813. Gentlemen, this is how I spent my morning is how much I love you. 1813 cases I was looking at where the court later clarified in a case called Lockington v. Smith.

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That judicial review, they had said that judicial review into whether an individual is actually an alien enemy is OK. Like that, that we will allow not to whether the president had the power to declare it or use it. But individual circumstances like I'm not trend or Aragua. Yes, you can have judicial review.

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And then they went back in Lockington in 1813 and said that review need only be available subsequent to incarceration. So Trump did no wrong. He did no wrong putting them on a plane and shipping them off to this El Salvadorian prison. But now and this is why the administration is conceding it. They will have to give individual hearings where the person is claiming I'm not trend to Iroquois.

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And I don't exactly know how that happens. I don't I'm not sure. I don't know. I don't even know what the procedure for that would be. Dave, do you have any idea?

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But just to be clear, it appears they only did that with plane number three. Planes number one and two were already airborne when the judge issued that.

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But the ruling refused to turn the planes around. That is true. Right.

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Here's what's really crazy. As far as we can see, nobody, including the ACLU, I raised this question repeatedly this week saying, I'm looking into the legality of shipping them out. I mean, not that. I accept he has the power, as I've just argued for the past half hour plus. But is it legal to put them in prison? Like that to me is an interesting question.

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Well, how do they wind up in prison without due process on criminal charges against them? You know, for for being gang members, for committing alleged crimes? How do you I get how you deport them. You can ship them back to where they came from. That's no problem. You can ship them back to where they they were born. The law recognizes that. I just don't know how you can ship them into a prison.

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But here's the weird thing. As far as I can tell, literally nobody's even arguing that that's an issue. Like, literally nobody. Even the ACLU is not making that their argument. Dave, they're saying, well, they're putting them into jails in which they could be tortured. But they're not saying they're putting them into jails.

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I did not like it and I did a big bit on it. But, you know. People disagree. I would say my audience is split. I actually expected them to be totally against me and you, Dave, on that and say, you know what? But actually, they were about they were about, I'd say, 55 percent in our camp and 45 percent in defense of her.

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And the reason they are, I think, Mike, is like cases like the one that just came down today out of South Carolina, where another illegal. Thank you. Thank you.

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OK, I'm so happy to see you. So we've got to kick it off with the trend to Aragua deportations. And yesterday there was this hearing on in the court of Judge Boasberg, which is in the D.C. federal district court. And he's trying to decide whether the Trump administration committed contempt of court because a month ago after Trump put.

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Thank you. Yeah. It's like a form of president. You're president of the prison. Clearly, you're looking for executive authority. You know, but we do. I think I think there needs to be some established procedure. And again, under the 1813 Supreme Court interpretation of all of this. it's okay if they don't give him a hearing before they deport him under Alien and Enemies Act. He's fine there.

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three plane loads of suspected Venezuelan gang members on planes, at least one plane of which had already been ordered to be removed by a federal district judge, and said, get out of here. You're going to El Salvador. The ACLU ran into court, said, Judge Boasberg, Judge Boasberg, please stop it. It's unconstitutional. And he said... You know what? It might be.

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And even before they imprison them. But at some point, if these individuals are saying they're not trend to Aragua, we're going to have to hear those claims in some way, shape, or form. And Dave, the other question is, what... They're supposed to be... We paid them $6 million to house these prisoners for a year. So what happens after the year? Does anybody know? Do they, like...

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You know, Mike, today on Instagram, I saw this young gal who was talking about medical tourism and she went to Turkey and in one day had every test you could have done on your body scan and blood tests and so on and dental work. I mean, you name it, they did it. And apparently she only paid 800 bucks for this in Turkey. So it's medical tourism. I mean, what I feel like Trump is engaging in.

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in penal tourism where he's getting this. You know how much it would cost to house 300 prisoners here in the United States for a year? Way more than six million bucks. This is like the Turkish. This is the equivalent of the Turkish day spa.

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Yeah. Times have changed. You guys are the best. I've missed you. Thank you so much for coming back.

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Stop those planes and said to the Trump administration, if those planes are in the air, you turn them around right now. I don't care if they've left U.S. airspace. Tell them to turn their asses around, get those illegals back to America. And with respect to two of those planes, they'd already left and they did not comply with an order to turn the flights around.

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The biggest obstacles to Trump's second term agenda have not come from Congress or the media. They have come from the courts, judges slapping down injunction after injunction after injunction. These are nationwide injunctions that stop the Trump agenda in its tracks. They have blocked Trump's executive order ending birthright citizenship. That one. That that can be forgiven. That's a big one.

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Welcome back to The Megyn Kelly Show. We are continuing to get incredible details about the downfall of former President Biden's campaign and presidency from two new books. One of the new details includes Hollywood actor George Clooney once raging against Morning Joe's Mika Brzezinski. I love this story. I love it. for so many reasons, which we'll get to.

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Joining me now to discuss that and so much more is Mike Solana. Mike runs a news outlet called Pirate Wires. Last time he was on our show, we got a huge response from our viewers and listeners, so we are glad to have him back on. Great to see you again. Thanks for having me back.

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Okay, so I love this George Clooney story, and let me make sure that I have the proper attribution so that I protect the innocent, the good reporters who are actually bringing this stuff out. Hold on, where is it? Where did I put it? Where is it, Deb? Oh, it's in the original. It's in the AM update. Sorry, guys. Okay. So this is the Whipple book that we talked about the other day.

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This Whipple book is, let's see, Chris Whipple, and it's called Unchartered, How Trump Beat Biden, Harris, and the Odds in the Wildest Campaign in History. Well, New nuggets are breaking. Tara Palmieri, who's got her own Substack and podcast now, she's been on the show. She got a copy and released a couple of the nuggets and so did The Guardian. But hers was a really interesting nugget.

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And she's apparently in this book, they reveal that George Clooney saw Morning Joe one day right after his op-ed and Mika Brzezinski was suggesting that Barack Obama was behind the George Clooney op-ed. It was basically making Clooney seem like Obama's puppet. Here's the Mika clip. I'm going to walk you through it. Watch it. It's not 22.

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Okay. Literally everyone thinks that he put him up to it. I mean, this is like, but here's what is reported. Whipple writes, at 10.05 a.m. after Morning Joe had wrapped that show, one of the show's producers walked into his Manhattan apartment. His phone started buzzing and he answered. The voice was familiar. How the F could you let her link me with Barack Obama saying he made me write the op-ed?

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And with respect to the third plane, it had not yet left, but it did not have any illegals on it who were being deported under the controversial law that was in front of Judge Boesberg, which is the Alien Enemies Act. So the Trump administration didn't feel like they had to do anything on that plane because they were like, these people have been ordered removed.

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It was George Clooney. The producer pushed back. Listen, I didn't do that, he said. You F'd me. Only with the real word, Clooney shouted. You're my friend. You should have stood up for me. Oh my God, you little baby, you man child. Okay, that was me. George, the producer said. This is not an effing movie. There's no script. It's just not a movie where you go script page to script page.

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F you, replied Clooney. F yourself, said the producer. The exchange of F-bombs lasted about five minutes before Clooney hung up. A few minutes later, he called back for another round of cursing and arguing. The actor called a third time just after noon and the shouting match went on. The producer had had enough. This is a morning talk show on a cable channel, he shouted at Clooney.

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Nobody gives an F what we say, or if we say he should get out or if he should stay in. Nobody effing cares. It's skywriting. It's effing gone. George, I told you before, we'll try and take care of it tomorrow morning. I promise you. I don't know whether I trust you, replied Clooney. Well, F you, said the producer. If you don't trust me, stop effing calling me.

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Okay, we just got to spend a minute on how pathetic these characters come across, right? I'm tough and I'm telling George Clooney to F off, but I promise we'll take it back tomorrow. I've got you.

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Well, you saw in the recent poll of Democratic frontrunners or leaders, who is the leader of the Democratic Party? Barack Obama only got 4%.

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Well, I can understand why as a man, you would feel totally emasculated by what is probably the truth, which is you were just the puppet to a more important man's opinions. You know, you may think that your president, he thinks he's a journalist now because he played one in a movie years ago.

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He's out there lecturing journalists on how to do journalism and be great at the end of his new Broadway play. Maybe he thinks he's president, too, because I guess he doesn't want to be subject subjugated to Barack Obama because he was apparently genuinely pissed off.

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And what's so funny about this is he's like he's worried that Mika Brzezinski's implication on Morning Joe is going to hurt his reputation somehow. Somehow it's like. It's gonna hurt his street cred with what? The leftists who watch MSNBC. George, I have news for you. We all believe it. She's not alone. We know this is what has happened.

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We're not using the Alien Enemies Act. You really have no jurisdiction to say anything about those illegals, Judge. So this judge is pissed off about the fact that we didn't turn those planes around and bring them back. And he might hold the Trump administration in contempt. But before we even get to that, Mike Davis...

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So here's the follow-up. Tara Palmieri had on the author, Whipple, and asked him whether Obama did tell Clooney to write the op-ed. And Whipple had a story about Obama's former chief of staff, Bill Daley, and what he confessed to Whipple about whether Obama was really behind the George Clooney op-ed, right? Do you follow me?

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So this was Obama's former chief of staff speaking to the author of the book who was on this podcast. And here is how that went.

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Mm-hmm. So he wouldn't have stopped it is basically what he's saying. Obviously, I mean, that's an implicit admission by the guy, Obama's former chief of staff. Okay. So it just shows how thin-skinned this Hollywood illister is. And then this morning show producer who's trying to be like, I told him to F himself. I told him to F off. And then I told him, we'll fix it tomorrow.

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Please don't be mad at us. Please don't George Clooney can't be mad at me. Okay. Very chummy relationship, by the way, right? Like I thought we were friends. I thought I could trust you. Well, you know what? That was your first mistake because you shouldn't trust cable news producers. They're only there to do one thing, put points on the board, not befriend Hollywood celebrities. Okay.

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There's more. In that Whipple book, he details how, like the meltdown around the Presidential debate where Joe Biden imploded and he gets into great detail about how bad it was. He spoke with with with Biden's former chief of staff who said we were terrified. I expected a disaster. He couldn't make it through either of the debate preps. He wasn't sure.

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He didn't seem to be aware of the fact that he was president. He thought he was president of NATO. Yeah. And yet they sent him off on stage. And apparently Joe Biden's sister, Valerie Biden, had a complete meltdown after seeing him on stage that night, blaming everyone around him. Probably not Jill, Dr. Jill, but everyone else. And here's a bit from that in that podcast. Same podcast. Is that 24?

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This judge did issue an injunction a month ago saying, and no more deportations under the Alien Enemies Act.

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And indeed he did. So what do you think? I think it's interesting. All these people are coming out now because there's a couple of books, as I mentioned, trying to do like the deconstruction of what happened with the debate and Biden's presidency, et cetera. Is this a save your own ass effort or what is this?

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You turn those planes around and no more using the Alien Enemies Act to deport Venezuelan gang members, period, until I've decided whether there's really an invasion or a predatory incursion, which is what's required under the Alien Enemies Act for the president to be able to deport them in the way he has. I will decide. And the Trump administration said, no, you won't.

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Yeah, that makes sense. There was a young woman who worked in the White House under Biden who was on CNN. No, she was a campaign aide named Ashley Allison. She went on CNN on Wednesday. Listen to this woman. It's at 25.

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This is ridiculous. We all knew. I mean, we knew he was in bad shape. I agree with you. We didn't know it was DEFCON 1. But we knew it was like two or three.

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I was also misled. I was like the New York times on COVID. We were misled.

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I'll give you a prediction. He's going to say he was all over the mental acuity problem and he'll probably have some examples.

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He would have been fine. Nobody would have like that guy's ability to cast this stone is unquestioned because he was pretty tough even on the Kamala thing. It was he was tough all along. He's like a normal reporter should be. Um, Jake's co-partnership on it complicates it. And for as many times as he may have mildly pointed it out, um, they didn't have the story.

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The left wasn't interested in the story. It's like I asked the New York times that I sat down with them last week or whatever it aired last week. Where was Peter Baker? Why wasn't it, you know, where was your intrepid white house reporter figuring out that neurologists had visited the white house more than 10 times in a year?

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I think the other piece of it is the left is losing its mind over Trump right now. They're so angry at what he's doing. It's like all their pet favorite causes, you know, being attacked one by one. And so it's like, how do we get in this position? Who let the infirm guy get all the way to that June debate?

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Right, they can't blame him. Because he has dementia. They should be talking about Dr. Jill. Dr. Jill, she's a medical, oh wait, no, she's not. But she knew better than anybody and she shoved him weekend at Bernie style out onto that stage.

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Oh, blame her. She's not the only one, but she's the number one person to blame. It's disgusting. I would never want this done to me by my spouse and I would never do this to my spouse, never. You're supposed to be looking out for them in sickness and in health. and be able to step away from power, which she couldn't. Okay. Where was I going after that? There's so much to get to today.

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I guess we'll go to Donald Trump and tariffs because the Trump agenda. They're very upset about, yes, tariffs and DEI and all of that. This is something, we talked about this a little bit before we got to air. I think we both have the same view on it, which is you say what your view is. You can't make me care about tariffs.

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You will not because the jurisprudence interpreting this act has said there is no judicial review of that call. And things didn't change in the past 250 years. You didn't find new executive authorities as a district court judge. You will not determine whether there's been a predatory incursion. That's Trump's call, period. And there's been legal precedent to that effect.

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Calm down. Just sim the mer, as Bill Hemmer used to say, sim the mer, calm down. Um, they won't, but it is interesting to me because Trump always says I ran on this and he is doing only stuff he ran on. Really everything he's doing is a promise made promise kept.

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This one in particular has been a lifelong issue for Trump. This clip has been circulating on social media.

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I saw it on X a couple of times and it was back when we still liked Oprah in 1988, when she was still somewhat self-deprecating and likable, not, not her billionaire actress self, like what with Meghan Markle, what they wanted to know how dark your baby was going to, what we don't like that version. However, fat fun. Oprah was great. Um, thin, bitter, too rich to relate to Oprah is not great.

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So Oprah had Trump on in 1988 when he was, by my math, 41 years old. Wow. And listen to this exchange. What would you do differently, Donald?

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And Judge Boasberg said, I will decide. Screw you. I don't accept this. It went up to the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals. They ruled two to one for now to support Judge Boasberg and his restraining order against the Trump deportations. And Trump went to the Supreme Court to say, reverse that restraining order. This is an outrage. These courts don't have review over me. Not on this.

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And you know what's interesting about that clip, among other things? That was 1988 before we decided to really open the floodgates to trade with China. Yep. And then, of course, by the time he ran in 15, all he was talking about was China. Yeah.

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Yeah, they said, but I... As of coming to air, they hadn't announced what exactly they're doing.

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Yep. Just getting this in. China has responded. China's finance ministry said it will match his plan for 34 percent tariffs on goods from China with its own 34 percent tariff on imports from the United States. I mean, literally, like we almost send them nothing. That's like, OK, but Trump's not wrong. We import from China so much more than they import from us. They're like, screw you.

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We don't want to depend on you at all. Here's the second thing. Separately, China's Ministry of Commerce said it was adding 11 American companies to its list of unreliable entities, essentially barring them from doing business in China or with Chinese companies. I mean, isn't this good?

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I anchored a presidential debate at which we were pressing every single candidate up there about whether their companies had done business with China, why they did business with China. Because if you do business with a Chinese company, you're doing business with the CCP. Xi Jinping.

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I'm excited to see what Trump can do. And I understand people are in, they're feeling uncertain because they rely on their 401ks. You got retirees who are on a fixed income. I get all of that. But I think we just have to hold, just hold the line, hold the line. That's what Trump is asking. I believe that he will do something to watch out for the most vulnerable.

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Like last time he did that when certain farmers got hit on his trade deal, And his tariffs in Trump 1.0, I mean, now his government quote handouts. But if he's going to take away, he's going to have to be in a position to replenish just to get us through the hard period if it gets that bad.

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not into government handouts, but my point is like, if we're gonna actively hurt our own farmers, they may need help just to get them through the bridge, whatever, we'll see where it goes. But I believe he's not just gonna let Americans suffer. The whole point of doing this is to make Americans prosper.

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The high court hasn't issued any ruling. They have asked for briefing on the case and briefing has come in. The Trump administration appealed. The ACLU filed its responsive appellate brief. And now the Trump administration just filed its reply. So it's fully briefed. And we're awaiting a call by the Supreme Court on the underlying substantive case.

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Well, we have a big, beautiful body of people from whom to buy and sell goods right here in the United States. So, I mean, that's one of his goals. He's not cutting off all trade. He doesn't want to cut off all trade with all foreign countries, but he's playing some hardball.

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And I heard an assessment on this morning's The Daily from their European correspondent suggesting, look, it may actually end with Europe before it even begins. They'll come to Trump. They'll strike a deal. The Europeans are feckless and have no power and no backbone. I'm sorry, but it's true. It's a lovely place to visit.

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But I think they will come hat in hand and try to work something out with him. And Mexico and Canada didn't get this particular round of sanctions or tariffs. They got an earlier round and actually are already changing their behavior. So it's Asia.

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But they were making a point about Vietnam and these other places, which is when Trump dropped the tariffs on China first time around, China outsourced its manufacturing plants to countries like Vietnam. They do that in Mexico, too. So that they wouldn't be hit by the tariffs we put on China. So they've been doing an end around Trump.

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And that's why he did a sweeping like, now it doesn't matter if you moved it to Vietnam, we're getting them too.

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I'm caring mildly based on this conversation, but like, that's it, mildly. But like, we'll see.

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So speaking of the Trump agenda that the left is melting down over, tariffs, yes, DEI, gender, you know, you name it. We could spend all day. Coincidentally, reemerges Kamala Harris, who decided to pop up this week at the Leading Women Defined Summit. What a terrible name for a summit. The Leading Women Defined Summit in California and had this to say, SOT26.

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And then there's the second matter of whether they should be held in contempt. That was a five minute recitation of a very complex legal case. I hope I got it right. Mike Davis, why do you say the Trump administration is right?

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Doesn't she always? The thing that's so irritating about her is like the way she talks. Like she's really... sharing something important.

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Well, she has until what June to decide if she's going to throw a hat into that ring or keep her hat out of that ring and potentially just go for the presidential contest next time around. It will be fun to watch. Here's one more from her again, always trying to sound like she's got all the answers here. She hasn't stopped 27.

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Yeah. Oh, my God. Exactly right. Well, I I don't think she's trying to project strength. I think she's trying to project inspo. I really think she wants to be 1988 Oprah. And she thinks she's got the nuggets and that when she delivers them, we're all really going to swoon.

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And indeed, the crowds in front of her try to write out of politeness or just because they've been told by the Democrats they need to love her. But no one who's watching this on TV feels moved. She's not an inspirational figure. She very soon will fade away. I mean, maybe she'll run for governor of California and win because they're lunatics out there.

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What about the fact that New York City is about to elect Andrew Cuomo as its mayor?

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I don't like. I get it because there's a paucity of options for New York City mayor who are running. There haven't been a ton who've thrown their hat into the ring. And Mayor Adams, while he just lost the indictment against him, thanks to Trump, by the way, with prejudice, the judge insisted that it be dismissed with prejudice.

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He decided to switch parties as an independent, but they're not going to reelect him. The cozying up that was necessary for him to do with Trump to get the charges dropped, Is why he can't get reelected as mayor. I think they would reelect a crook, but they're not going to reelect somebody who's cozy with Trump. Right. And so Andrew Cuomo now is 38 percent, which is what you need.

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I mean, that's all you need is a divided field to get the damn nomination. And then, you know, I don't like the last time we had a Republican, truly Republican mayor. It was I think Bloomberg had already declared himself an independent when he ran and run. So was Giuliani with 9-11. It was 25 years ago.

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So I just I can't get over the fact that the city is thinking about returning the guy who did what he did to them on covid. He's he did it. It was his policies. He doesn't apologize for them. He's not sorry. He's the one who ordered covid positive patients into all the nursing homes so that the most vulnerable and elderly amongst us were almost certain to die.

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And some 15000 of them did between nine and 15000, depending on the count. Thank you.

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I'd been off the air for almost three years, two plus years. Like he just left MSNBC and the Sunday show and nothing.

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OK, but they have been out of control on virtually every one of his executive orders. They've paused the ban on trans individuals in the military, saying, I guess they're the commander in chief now. Trump's not. They have halted his deportations of Venezuelan gang members under the Alien Enemies Act. Those cases have raised fascinating legal and political questions.

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Yeah. Yeah. It's a difference between being a platform player, you know, like Don Lemon. It's like the only reason anybody ever watched him is because he was on CNN and they had on CNN. And then I'm afraid the same is true for Chuck Todd, a platform player, and being somebody who has a genuine, powerful connection with their audience.

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There are a couple people on Fox News who I think could still do it. Definitely Gutfeld could do it. Jesse Waters could do it. But I mean, for the vast majority of news talent, they're platform players. And when they come out into the sharky oceans, they find out it's a lot harder, you know, to make it than it looks. And, you know, something I was going to say right now under Trump. Yes.

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Now the social media companies are like, OK, we're going to restore a free speech. Right. I mean, from YouTube to Facebook, they're all starting to say that now. I'm glad they're finally seeing reason. But let's be honest. For the past five years, they have been censoring everybody right of center on all of our opinions.

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Only Elon, even Twitter was horrible until Elon, only Elon Musk in the time of war chose the right side and stood up for free speech. And honestly, it's because of him. in large part, and all of us who are out there saying the things, even when you couldn't say the things, that we preserved the right to say the things.

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So I'm thrilled that now these other tech companies are being like, okay, you can say the things now, but I will always look at them as cowards.

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Wait, on that, that reminds me. I do need to remind my audience to send in your email. We never sell email lists. You don't have to worry about that. But we are trying to get an email list of our subscribers just in case this happens to us. If you would like to do that, please do it. Just go to megankelly.com and you'll see there how to do it.

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But yeah, because for that reason, belts and suspenders, like you don't, you never know what big tech could do, what the next administration could bring. But I'm just saying it's like, You're right. People like those two have been out there with the benefit of, you know, liberally controlled outlets everywhere. It's been ubiquitous around them.

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And this is why the Snow White story, for example, has been so interesting, right? Like it's cracking. We've infiltrated even Disney now. We're able to punish the wokest people at an institution like that with our dollars and our voices in a way we could not have six years ago.

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Now they have to deal with us. It's like there have been a couple of really important moments in getting to this point. And yes, Elon buying X was a huge one. I think conservatives holding the line on Bud Light was another huge one. You know, they got that message loud and clear. Eventually, this Disney thing is important, too. It's not as big because we are we won. Trump has been elected.

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We're still fighting. The woke wars aren't over. But we got our president elected and, you know, the DEI executive orders and so on. But that one was easy because she was so alienating and she just annoyed reasonable people all over the country and probably all over the ideological spectrum. And they've suffered.

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I think we're going to get tired of all the winning, like Trump says. I'm looking forward to getting tired of all the winning right now. I'm not tired. I'm really enjoying it. And I think our biggest problem is to get these judges out of the way so we can let the wins unfold. And that's why the Supreme Court needs to do its job. And that's where we started the era and that's where we end it.

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Mike, thank you. Thank you for having me. A pleasure. Mike Solana, everybody. Hope to see you again soon. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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And they're saying they didn't apply and that he didn't have the authority to issue them. Both. They're arguing both. But they are complying. They are proceeding as though he did have the authority.

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Okay, but Dave, how is it the federal district courts are allowed in the argument of the ACLU to decide whether there's been an incursion, a predatory incursion by a foreign government. How are they better positioned to determine that than the commander in chief and the sitting president of the United States?

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No, no, no. So let me stop you there, because there's three different ways that you can get alien alien enemies act to apply. Act of war, invasion or predatory incursion. Trump seems to be citing the latter, too. They don't seem to be arguing that we're necessarily at war with Venezuela. But for sure, he's saying if you look at his declaration, it says invasion and predatory incursion.

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And there are so many others that they have said they've tried to stop him on his DEI agenda, on his on his gender agenda, on cleaning up our federal employee ranks and firing dead weight. I mean, you name it, they've stopped it. And this appears to be how we're going to be living for the next four years.

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So there's no question that you can have those other things without Congress.

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They're not allowed to decide political questions, Dave. How is it not a political question whether we've suffered a predatory invasion from Venezuela?

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And it is telling that they never they never questioned our declaration of war after 9-11. They didn't question our declaration of war with respect to Iraq or Afghanistan. The courts have typically been reluctant to go anywhere near that kind of political declaration because they understand when you're talking about political questions.

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The president is at the apex of his powers and the courts to say they're at their nadir. They have nothing. They have none.

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We are Katie bar the door. Let me let me read to you from Ledecky versus Watkins 1948 interpreting the Alien Enemies Act. OK, they say accordingly, we hold it the full responsibility for the just exercise of this great power under the Alien Enemies Act and the declarations may validly be left where the Congress has constitutionally placed it on the president of the United States.

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The founders in their wisdom made him not only the commander in chief, but also the guiding organ in the conduct of our foreign affairs. He who was entrusted with such vast powers in relation to the outside world was also entrusted by Congress almost throughout the whole life of the nation with the disposition of alien enemies during a state of war.

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Such a page of history is worth more than a volume of rhetoric. And they go on to say all systems of government. This is quoting from an earlier case. Suppose they are to be administered by men of common sense and common honesty in our country, as all ultimately depends on the voice of the people.

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They have it in their power and it is to be presumed they generally will choose men of this description. But if they will not, the case, to be sure, is without remedy. If they choose fools, they're talking about as leaders. They will have foolish laws. If they choose knaves, they will have knavish ones.

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But this can never be the case until they are generally fools or knaves themselves, which, thank God, is not likely ever to become the character of the American people. The whole thing is about how if we effed up in picking the wrong leader, politics is the remedy, not courts.

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The only question is whether the Supreme Court is going to start doing its job and sending a message to the lower courts that no one elected them to do anything. Literally nobody elected federal district court judges. And they're not the president. And they have a role. Absolutely. They have a role in when there's overreach. But in certain lanes, they actually don't.

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Federal prosecutors arguing they did not violate a federal judge's order blocking the use of the Alien Enemies Act when the Trump administration deported two planes of suspected Trenda Aragua gang members. That's a U.S.-designated terror organization now. to El Salvador.

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The Alien Enemies Act of 1798 allows the government sweeping authority to detain and deport non-citizens from countries at war with America. The Trump administration arguing the law also applies to invading forces or those pursuing an incursion, including transnational gangs and terrorist groups.

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The March 15th order declaring that Tren de Aragua is, quote, conducting irregular warfare and undertaking hostile actions against the U.S. The order accuses the gang of operating in conjunction with the Maduro regime of Venezuela to destabilize the U.S. Five Venezuelan nationals sued the Trump administration to prevent their deportation under the act. Chief Judge of the D.C.

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Circuit Court James Boasberg originally blocked the deportation of those five Venezuelans, then verbally expanded his order to include all deportees facing removal under the act. The written order halting the wider removal of aliens did not come until more than an hour later. By that time, two planes carrying more than 100 suspected gang members had already departed for El Salvador.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Friday, April 4th, 2025, and this is your AM Update. Federal prosecutors arguing they did not violate a federal judge's order blocking the removal of suspected Trenda Aragua terrorists under the Alien Enemies Act.

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Federal prosecutors arguing the oral command, quote, did not amount to a binding injunction. They're focused on the written order. This hearing, the latest and most high-profile case involving here a district judge appointed by Barack Obama, imposing a national injunction on an executive action. The hearing lasted about one hour.

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Senior legal correspondent for the Federalist, Margo Cleveland, has been following the case from the start. Ms. Cleveland reporting on X, quote, in this hearing, the judge came off as the most biased and unkeeled he has yet. Ms. Cleveland saying the hearing focused on who violated the order as opposed to questioning whether there was a violation at all.

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Judge Boasberg is expected to issue a ruling sometime next week, the DOJ facing possible sanctions if found in contempt. Judge Boasberg's earlier ruling enjoining any more deportations under the act was upheld by the D.C. Circuit Court. A petition seeking an appeal of that ruling has been filed with the U.S. Supreme Court. Vice President J.D.

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A high school football star fatally stabbed in the chest at a high school track meet in a senseless act of violence.

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Vance asked by Fox about the lawsuits against the administration's immigration actions.

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A heartbreaking story involving a senseless act of violence. A Frisco, Texas, high school football MVP, a 4.0 student, fatally stabbed in the chest while attending a high school track meet as a spectator. Frisco Independent School District identifying the victim as 17-year-old Austin Metcalf. The suspect, 17-year-old Carmelo Anthony, in police custody now, charged with first-degree murder.

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the twin brother of the victim, Hunter Metcalf, describing the moments leading up to the altercation.

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Austin's twin brother attempted to stop the bleeding until paramedics arrived on scene. Their father said he has already forgiven Austin's killer, but questions how he was raised to be capable of this. The victim's mother telling ABC News 8 about her son. He was the most amazing kid.

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New York City Mayor Eric Adams sidestepping a wide field of Democrat primary challengers in a long shot bid for reelection. And the Trump administration puts state public school systems on notice. No more DEI. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update. That's why they offer a coverage guarantee that others cannot.

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Austin's last post on X came just two days before his murder. He wrote, quote, Faith that God got me heart and my work will pay off. Authorities say no bond has been set yet for Mr. Carmelo. Frisco police declining to release any additional details about the suspect. New York City Mayor Eric Adams on Thursday shaking up his reelection campaign in a video posted to social media.

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the announcement coming one day after a federal judge dismissed corruption charges against the mayor. In September, the Biden DOJ charging Mr. Adams with bribery and campaign finance offenses.

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Mr. Adams denies the allegations, calling them a politically motivated response to his outspoken criticism of the Biden administration's border policies, though the investigation into Adams had started long before those criticisms. More than 200,000 migrants arriving in New York City from Texas under President Biden.

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The city required to provide shelter and resources to all newcomers by its right to housing law, quickly facing an existential financial burden. Mayor Adams becoming a frequent critic of the Biden policies allowing unchecked migration. Then candidate Donald Trump making this joke at the Catholic Al Smith dinner in New York in response to the charges against Mayor Adams.

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In February, the Trump DOJ directing prosecutors to drop all charges against Mayor Adams. Critics called the move a quid pro quo, suggesting Adams agreed to cooperate with the Trump administration on immigration in exchange for his freedom. Federal prosecutors requesting that the case be dismissed without prejudice, meaning charges could be refiled at a later date.

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On Wednesday, however, the judge opting to dismiss the case with prejudice, writing, quote,

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Dismissing the case without prejudice would create the unavoidable perception that the mayor's freedom depends on his ability to carry out the immigration enforcement priorities of the administration and that he might be more beholden to the demands of the federal government than to the wishes of his own constituents.

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Mr. Adams saying that the pending charges prevented him from running a proper primary campaign. Nine other Democrats are challenging Mr. Adams for the nomination. Primary election scheduled for June. The general is in November. The most recent polling prior to Mayor Adams switching affiliations showing him in third place at 8% and falling. That's within the Democrat primary.

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Disgraced former governor of New York, Andrew Cuomo, leading the pack of Democrats at 38%. OMG, he's at 38%. I'm sorry. This is like the primary is the most important thing in the election in New York. The Democrats going to it. Andrew Cuomo is basically on his way to becoming the next mayor. Okay. A March Quinnipiac poll showing Mayor Adams' approval rating at 20%.

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That's the lowest of any city mayor in nearly 30 years. The Department of Education putting state public education officials on notice. You comply with Trump's anti-DEI guidelines or you risk your federal funding. State officials on Thursday given 10 days to return a form verifying the elimination of programs promoting diversity, equity, and inclusion within the public school systems.

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This step, the latest in a series of actions by the Trump administration, compelling states to end practices prioritizing identity politics over individual merit and academic outcomes.

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On Wednesday, the Department of Agriculture, which gives money to public schools for various classes and opportunities, announcing funding freezes for the state of Maine, targeting administrative and technology programs. The move follows Maine's refusal to enforce the Trump administration's interpretation of Title IX, which bars men from competing in women's sports.

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Democrat Governor Janet Mills, who already caved on this issue when it comes to her state universities, along with the Maine Principals Association, publicly opposing Mr. Trump's policy, citing their own state law prioritizing gender identity rather than biological reality. Earlier this year, a biological male winning a high school women's state pole vaulting championship.

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Despite multiple prior warnings, Maine officials refused to comply. Agricultural Secretary Brooke Rollins describing the directive received from President Trump.

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Secretary Rollins warning Governor Mills in a letter, quote, USDA alongside other federal agencies will continue to pause and, where appropriate, terminate categories of education programming in Maine if these Title IX violations are not resolved. Secretary Rollins confirming funding for school meals remains untouched, though broader reviews of other streams of funding are underway.

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Mark Zuckerberg moves to D.C., the latest billionaire tech entrepreneur to purchase a home in President Trump's neck of the woods. The meta CEO dropping $23 million in cash on the 15,000-square-foot property in a swanky northwest D.C. neighborhood. The Washington Business Journal reporting the buy is the third most expensive home sale in the district's history.

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You might think switching to Patriot Mobile is painful, but it isn't. No need to spend hours in a retail store waiting your turn. Just call Patriot Mobile's 100% US-based team from the comfort of your own home or office, and they will have you activated in minutes. Still locked in a contract? Not a problem. Patriot Mobile's contract buyout program covers up to $500 per device.

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The purchase comes as Mr. Zuckerberg prepares for a major antitrust trial set to begin on April 14th. The FTC aiming to break off messaging app WhatsApp and Instagram from parent company Meta, saying the company is too big and stifles competition.

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The Wall Street Journal reporting Mr. Zuckerberg was at the White House on Wednesday, the third visit of Mr. Trump's presidency, part of a charm offensive by the Facebook founder aiming to repair the relationship between his company and President Trump. Meta controversially banning the president from its social media platforms in the aftermath of the January 6th riot.

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In January of this year, Meta agreeing to a $25 million settlement with the president relating to that decision. Mr. Zuckerberg reportedly made multiple trips to Mar-a-Lago during the transition, and Meta donated $1 million to Trump's inauguration fund. Mr. Zuckerberg also announcing major policy changes shortly after President Trump's election.

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Facebook's saying it was going to abandon fact-checkers, instead implementing a community notes-style system similar to X. So far, though, the government's antitrust case against Meta remains a go. That'll do it for your AM Update. I'm Megyn Kelly.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and happy Friday. We're back home from D.C. safely and what a crazy few days it's been in the nation's capital. It's just, oh my gosh. We are less than two weeks into Trump's second term and there is more news than ever.

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Obama created this. He's the one who lowered the standards and prioritized literally, as you said, the like severe intellectual disabilities, hiring those people. That's a real thing. We couldn't believe it, but it's true. Trump did not change it. He did not get rid of it in his first presidency the way he just did.

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So Trump was a little slow to get up to speed on some of these issues his first term. But now he did. Now he got out there with his executive order within hours of taking the presidency. Go ahead.

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Can I just add to that, Charlie? So I think about this all the time because when I was at NBC and had my calamitous downfall there, it was October of 2018. And so many people have come up to me over the years to say like, the you that went out on the air and apologized after that whole thing, after you didn't do anything wrong, bears no resemblance to the you that we see today.

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And they're not wrong. you know, there was a combination of things going on there. I mean, I was very beaten down by a very rough year at NBC. And once you've been flagellated enough, you kind of like, okay, I guess, you know, I'm a terrible person, like everybody says. But I can relate to exactly what you're saying, because my first instinct then, even though I knew what I was saying was true,

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was just to apologize and bend the knee because that was the culture. It was like, nobody was talking about this stuff. It was just, if you wanna have a career, if you wanna exist in polite society, when this mob turns on you, there's only one thing to do, which is to say, okay, I'll fall on my sword and move on.

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And it was part of my awakening, my own personal awakening to do that, to feel disgusting about what was being done to me. to realize like I knew I was a truth teller, but I had to go through this performative thing and then have things come awake for me. Like, no, wait, this is all part of a greater societal lie that's being shoved down all of our throats. It's not just about Megyn Kelly.

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It's about what they're doing to all of us right now. And it took a lot of us a couple of years, especially, I mean, I think the post George Floyd of Palooza, as you put it, was part of the awakening where we're like, whoa, these are crazy people we've been listening to that helped us all steal our spines. And so I totally get your point. It feels very authentic to me personally.

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I know, so much to go over. Let's just start with the plane crash because everybody's talking about it. And those latest videos that we woke up to this morning, I mean, my jaw dropped. Yesterday I had on the show these two pilots and I showed them the video we all saw that was circulating everywhere yesterday.

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100 percent. So he is out there. I'm going to I want to get into the details of this lawsuit because it's pretty amazing what against the FAA as a result of Obama's policy put into place in 2013. It's a it's a class action by. aspiring air traffic controllers who were told they were too white. I mean, it's amazing. It's been granted class action certification and it's going forward.

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So Trump got out there yesterday and said the following. Take a listen to that one.

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Okay, so here's what happened. In 2022, a judge approved the class action status of this lawsuit filed in the U.S. District Court of Columbia, D.C. It was brought by Colorado-based Montana State's Legal Foundation. Former Nevada Attorney General Adam Laxalt ran for Senate, is co-counselor. filed against the FAA.

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And Laxad is alleging that he represents nearly 1,000 people who went to school to become air traffic controllers in 2014, which you may remember was a time during which Barack Obama was president. The individuals he represents passed the normal test right before the Obama administration said the class was, quote, too white. I'm quoting here from the complaint.

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And threw out their tests, their successful tests, because they were too white. Totally effing illegal. The FAA put together a new test. This quiz served as further screening of applicants who had already graduated from a 200-hour training program and achieved high scores on the test, a grueling eight-hour cognitive test that measures each of the specific skills needed to do the job properly.

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The new test was a biographical test with the intent of adding more African Americans to the air traffic control pool. It had never been used before. The questionnaire sought irrelevant info, such as the college subject in which I received my lowest grade. Those answering history, political science received 15 points, extra points. playing four or more sports in high school was worth five points.

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By contrast, holding a pilot's license, a major advantage for an air traffic controller, was worth only two points. And having valuable experience as an air traffic controller in the military was worth... No points at all. Lead plaintiff, Andrew Brigida, Brigida, B-R-I-G-I-D-A. His application was turned down despite achieving a perfect 100% score on the set. I mean, on the test.

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And to me, it looked very much like there was a plane coming from behind, like the helicopter was coming from behind and kind of went right into the regional jet. And they explained to me that what we were seeing coming from behind there actually was not there. So you can see this light approaching. This is, forget the plane on the top of the screen. It's the lower one.

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And the result of this per the lawsuit is that changes to the hiring process meant many of these graduates began to be passed over in favor of applicants who had only graduated from high school. So it's crazy that Congress did force the FAA to drop this quiz in twenty eighteen. Um, and this is what we've been dealing with. Again, this is no comment on the particular controller involved in this.

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We have no idea who that person was or whether they did anything wrong or below standards, but this is what we're dealing with here. And this is why Trump is assuring people that we will have a full fledged investigation to see whether any of this played a role and that this ends yesterday.

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And you can kind of see what looks like a plane coming right into it, the helicopter running right into the regional jet. And they said, I wasn't seeing it right, that that wasn't the helicopter coming from behind. That was a different regional jet or smaller jet. And that in fact, the helicopter had been coming from like the side and is not really that visible.

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Absolutely. He learned so much. He retooled his whole team, his whole approach. He watched what happened. And then the Democratic Party truly lost its mind. Not that they were reasonable under Obama. As we point out, they were doing this stuff under him. But they lost their ever-loving minds. And so the country got to see just how crazy they are.

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And they were ready for Trump to come back and implement all these things. So not only does he come out, you heard him in that soundbite there, but he actually also issued an executive action in response to the collision, saying first he's going to appoint a formal commission. And he picked the guy to head it as the deputy administrator for the FAA. He doesn't have a current FAA administrator.

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So this guy, Rochelleau, Christopher Rochelleau, will be the acting guy. And secondly, he issued a memorandum ordering an immediate release. assessment of aviation safety and an elevation of competence over DEI when it comes to air travel. So that's excellent. He also did the same thing, not for nothing.

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He's been doing one of these kind of every other day, but one yesterday spoke to what's happening in K-12 schooling. Which is, it's about time. Now, normally schooling is handled at the local level. Normally that's a state's issue and a local issue, which is why everybody should be voting in their local school board elections and picking the right people. But the feds can influence it.

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And Biden's been doing exactly the opposite. He's been incentivizing, shoving things like the 1619 project down the throats of K through 12 and college educators. And now Trump is reversing all of that. And it's just so beautifully said. I have to say, I love-

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Whoever's writing this stuff, and I know it's probably different people, a lot of Stephen Miller in here, but this one, I'll just read you in part what he wrote on the K-12 ending radical indoctrination. K-12 schooling EO signed Wednesday. In recent years, parents have witnessed schools indoctrinate their children in radical anti-American ideologies while deliberately blocking parental oversight.

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Such an environment operates as an echo chamber in which students are forced to accept these ideologies without question or critical examination. In many cases, innocent children are compelled to adopt identities as either victims or oppressors solely based on their skin color or other immutable characteristics.

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And then today, new video surfaced that really shows what I thought I was seeing yesterday. It looks like the helicopter almost ramming into the regional jet. Here it is. And I do believe that is the helicopter hitting the regional jet. I mean, it is. It's the proper video now. It's just from a different angle. But and everybody online is saying, what's happening? What's that?

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In other instances, young men and women are made to question whether they were born in the wrong body or whether to view their parents and their reality as enemies to be blamed. These practices not only erode critical thinking, but also sow division, confusion, and distrust, which undermine the very foundations of personal identity and family unity.

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My administration will enforce the law to ensure the recipients of federal funds providing K-12 education comply with all applicable laws prohibiting discrimination in various contexts, protecting parental rights. Oh, I mean, shoot it in my veins, Charlie.

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It's amazing. It's beyond my wildest expectations. Question for you, as somebody who's close to Team Trump, is there any intention to try to codify any of this into law? Because, of course, the worry is... And I love the bet. I mean, I get the bet. And without... A willingness, like we don't have 60 votes in the Senate. You know, we only have 53.

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But without a willingness to pass it into law, at least we'll get the executive orders, which then will show the American people through four years of living without this mania what life can be like. Raising patriotic children. You know, not... eschewing religion everywhere and anywhere and letting DEI become their new religion.

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Not transing children who may just be a little depressed because their parents got a divorce. Ideally, they'll see what life can be like without that lunacy, and the next president will be handicapped to revert back to Biden's ways if it were a Democrat. But it's much better if we can actually have laws on the books protecting women's sports.

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And I know that is one that's moving through, though I've got... bad information, like upsetting information about whether that's going to get a vote in the Senate. So I don't know whether Trump can do a lot of this legislatively. What are they saying about trying to make these EOs into something more?

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What was this an intentional takedown? And then there was additional speculation. I want to underscore it turned out to be totally false that maybe the pilot of the helicopter was a trans woman. There were reports that it's a woman and we do believe it was a woman. But then people started saying it's a trans person. It's a man pretending to be a woman.

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Before we wrap the hour, I just want to go back to that Trump presser yesterday in response to the plane crash and just give the audience a flavor for some of the Trump moments and some of the ridiculous journalistic, in quotes, moments. It's worth watching. First, here's Trump with a snarky response to a stupid question. Take a listen, Satu.

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And they've attached a name to this person that it wasn't true. That person is alive and well and was not piloting that helicopter. Yeah. We don't believe it was a trans person. We believe it was an actual woman with 500 hours of flying experience. And we're told that's a decent amount. We don't know all the details. We'll find out more today. So here is what the pilot said. Stand by.

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Okay, so here's another one. Caitlin Collins got up and asked a question and may have lived to regret it. Stop three.

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Yeah. What a shock. Here is, um, Trump responding to Pete Buttigieg who made a similar allegation as the one you just debunked. Here he is.

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It's pretty amazing. I mean, first of all, to your point, we just had a president who couldn't walk across a room. I know the big boy steps are now back on Air Force One. And there's a big boy in the actual chair who shows up at the White House press briefing, takes the questions himself, fires off at the reporters, gives his real opinion. Says bullshit if that's what he thinks.

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I mean, it's it's very raw and it's very honest. You can tell the guy's giving us his unvarnished opinion on almost everything. He knows where to draw the line. You know, like President Trump does know not to reveal classified information, what he can and cannot say, what's appropriate. But he this is it's just so refreshing.

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Let me get this up so that... I can just read you. John, who was on yesterday, said to him, this does not look intentional. The helicopter was more or less following the standard helicopter route along the east side of the river. It was what they were cleared for. They were slightly high, like 100 feet and maybe a bit off course.

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Of course. I mean, who could who could realistically blame this on Sean Duffy and Donald Trump? It's like they've been in office for two hot minutes. And it's really like and by the way, we don't know whether Buttigieg's and his policies are to blame either. What Trump was basically saying was your car had a massive accident.

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And when I opened up the hood to see what was under there, it was a disaster. It's, I don't know whether it was this engine that was behind the actual car crash, but your car is a disaster. I've looked under the hood and there's so much for me to do here. And I resent you weighing in Pete Buttigieg at all because you helped create a lot of the problems in this department.

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What's amazing too, I have to say is, so you got Trump who, again, we see him at the Oval Office taking questions from reporters on night one, just like firing back and forth very casually. Um, I don't think there's been a day that he hasn't put himself out there publicly.

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You got, um, Marco Rubio, when I interviewed him at State yesterday, I went over to State. We sat down in the State studio together. Boom, here's an hour. No problem. And he's off on his first trip as Secretary of State. Pete Hegseth, from his desk at DOD, is commenting on the fact that we're going to put some of these illegals down at Gitmo and on the airplane crash. Like,

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Have we ever seen the defense secretary just kind of firing off like his thoughts from it's just it's what RFK said his policies would be radical transparency at every level. I really think the American people are going to receive this extremely well.

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But this would not be unusual, particularly if they were flying on night vision goggles, which we believe they may have been. It appears that they either lost sight of the regional jet or that they misidentified another jet in line behind this regional jet when they were asked by air traffic control, do you see the jet? And they said yes. Or they perhaps got distracted.

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And they're working together, you know, between Hegseth and Kristi Noem at the border, Hegseth and Duffy on the on the transportation. Like you can feel it. It's just there's a it's a it's a new dawn. And I think American the American public can be very grateful. More with Charlie right after this. Don't go away. I'm Megyn Kelly, host of The Megyn Kelly Show on Sirius XM.

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Have you seen these videos, the latest videos of the plane crash? They're very disturbing. There is understandably a lot of speculation circulating today about whether this could possibly have been intentional. When you see the way this helicopter from the new angles seem to have plowed right into the regional jet.

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So yesterday we had hearings for Kash Patel, Tulsi Gabbard and the second day for RFKJ. I sat in for an hour plus of the Tulsi hearing and it was rather disheartening. I did not feel encouraged about her chances by the time I was done. But then later I felt encouraged when I heard what Susan Collins said.

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who is this kind of Democrat masquerading as a Republican from Maine, said about her impressions. I mean, Trump lost her on Hegseth. I don't think he's going to get her on RFKJ. I don't know. But here's what I saw when she cross-examined Tulsi yesterday. Let's start there. Look at this exchange in SOT9.

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No, and it is an absurd accusation. Okay, so there's Tulsi pushing back on her. The cross-examination by Susan Collins wasn't particularly aggressive, but it kind of sounded like that. You could argue that she was just giving her a chance to respond to the things that have been alleged about her. But you could hear Tulsi sort of taking issue with even the suggestion.

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Well, after the fact, Collins said, I was happy. with her responses to my questions. That, too, is a little ambiguous. What does that mean? Like you were happy she fully answered them or you liked what you heard? But I think it's somewhat positive. Net net. I don't think she would have used the word happy if she were going to vote against her.

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Now, that doesn't answer the question of whether Tulsi gets through, because there are a lot of Republican senators there who seem to not like fans of Tulsi's, um, Cornyn of Texas Langford of Oklahoma. They did not seem like fans, Charlie. Um, and she certainly had a few Democrats who seemed very against her. So what do you think is going to happen with Tulsi?

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Then Wiz, who was the helicopter – oh, he was a – Top Gun instructor and graduate. He said, it does not look intentional to me. It literally looks like they are just clueless about the regional jet. Remember, pilots can be heads down in the cockpit looking at stuff. They're not always looking out the front window.

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If both pilots are looking at something inside the cockpit or entering something into a computer, nobody's looking out the window, especially if they believe they had the traffic in sight that was a threat to them. which clearly was the wrong traffic. In other words, he's saying too, when they said they saw the jet, they were probably looking at the wrong jet.

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The risk in them doing it is, you know, what we think is that if they sink her nomination, it will be the Republicans who sink her. I mean, that's what's going to happen here because they have the majority. Of course, and we won't know. But they were even harder on her yesterday than the Dems. Honestly, it was tough to find somebody who sounded like they were going to defend her.

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She handled herself beautifully. I mean, she was... Yes, she really did. Elegant. She was, she never, never lost her cool. I mean, it was actually an example in how to handle yourself, but there was absolutely no warmth coming her way from the other side of the aisle. I mean, I should mean, I mean, across the hearing room, whether you were on the left or the right.

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So I left worried and my pal Glenn Greenwald, who's a big Tulsi advocate is worried too. And I just don't even know what to do to help her, Charlie. I don't I'm not sure how.

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There's no way two aviators in an army helicopter would fly directly into a landing regional jet. So both of our experts who have no dog in this hunt say this does not look intentional to them. They believe it was just a catastrophic error. Anyway, your take on it, Charlie.

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All right, let's talk about RFKJ. So I didn't get to the soundbite yesterday, but there was a pretty extraordinary... There were a couple of extraordinary exchanges in his day two in front of the health committee confirmation hearing. He had to go through two. And Rand Paul is just a star. I mean, he... Good luck challenging Rand Paul on medical issues. Just ask Dr. Fauci how that went.

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Rand Paul is one of the reasons Dr. Fauci felt he needed a pardon because it seemed clear that Dr. Fauci lied to Rand Paul's face repeatedly while under oath about his gain of function, involvement, and so on. And Rand Paul just knew the questions to ask Dr. Fauci during the relevant time. He's been very fearless.

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So he used his time at this confirmation hearing to respond to Senator Cassidy, who also is a doctor. And Senator Cassidy of Louisiana. Cassidy's a problem. He's a problem. He's a pivotal, pivotal vote on this. So I'm going to set it up by showing you Cassidy and RFKJ on vaccines. And then I'm going to show Rand Paul using his time to respond to it. I mean, it may all come down to this.

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I just, to me, it's so infuriating. I give my kids all the vaccines. They're not vaccine injured. Thank God, by the way, highly recommend the shingles vaccine as an adult, because you can get it in your eye. It's just disgusting. Anyway, apparently it's very, very painful too, but that's an adult. That's an adult decision. You can decide whether you want these vaccines or not, but.

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Bobby Kennedy, they were all over him on the vaccines. As the audience now knows, he was on the show for four hours. We just spent two, two full hours on vaccines and not COVID vaccines. These vaccines that he's getting cross-examined over, MMR vaccine and his long history of alleged vaccine denialism that he got cross-examined over, over and over and over and over again.

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And the long and the short of it is Bobby Kennedy jumped up and down and said, there's, there's, there's mercury in these vaccines, and I don't know that it's safe. And they said, you're crazy. It's totally safe. You're a nutcase. And what wound up happening? They took it out. And we went to all of Bobby Kennedy's critics who said, he's got this problem with mercury in the vaccines.

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Mercury is totally safe. It's safe. It's safe. And then Bobby Kennedy came out and he explained this all on our show about how it was methylmercury that they were saying was safe. And they said that it was problematic, but it was this other ethylmercury. Yeah.

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And long story short, the one that they said was totally unassailable stayed in the brain of the monkeys that were tested for months afterward. He explains it all, all right? Good luck challenging him on the science behind the vaccines. The bottom line is they took out the mercury. The same group that had been saying it's safe, it's safe, it's safe, it's safe, took it out. Not because of him.

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They had a closed door meeting and they said, you know what, let's remove it. But there's nothing to see here. There's nothing to see here. And then they put aluminum in these vaccines, which works. It's not exactly a preservative. It does something else for the vaccines. But that too is a potential neurotoxin. And then they say, it's nothing, it's nothing, it's nothing.

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Just shove it in your baby and don't give it two thoughts. But all of this is going on while the toxic stew that our children are swimming in was growing exponentially from the pollutants in their water and the fluorine and the chloride to the pollutants in their food, to the pollutants that is on your sofa and the baby toys and the baby bottles and all around them.

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And Bobby Kennedy has been saying, can we just pause a little to figure out what's causing this? Why are the allergies doing this? Why are the ticks doing this? Why is the autism doing this? Why was this something you never even heard of when I was a child to something that is one in 30 now? And they look at him and they say, you're a kook. You're dangerous. You, you're dangerous.

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It's infuriating. It's infuriating to be standing on my side of the aisle with children or yours and to just, and again, with, with God, Thank God, perfectly healthy children to say, why are you so determined to stop the questions? And the COVID vaccine is even a more persuasive case where you've got young boys, 15 year old boys with myocarditis dying, dying, and they won't acknowledge it.

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It's truly like the warning labels are like, you could try this to decrease your skin itchiness, but it may cause testicular boils.

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Who in their right mind would sign on to that? I do want to say this to Senator Cassidy, whose vote we really need in with all due respect. And by the way, I asked the audience to call his office yesterday and give him the number. And I said I would call. And I did. I personally called. It was actually very funny.

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The guy was like, the the Megyn Kelly? I'm like, yes, the Megyn Kelly. I want you. And he was like, do you live in Louisiana? I'm like, no, but I have a loud mouth and I have a lot of listeners who do. OK, they took the number down. But here's the email that you're supposed I asked. And they told me the email is Hannah H-A-N-N-A-H underscore bar B-A-R-R at Cassidy dot Senate dot gov.

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Hannah underscore bar H-A-N-N-A-H underscore B-A-R-R at Cassidy dot Senate dot gov. And I think with all due respect to Hannah, and I'm sure she's a lovely person, and Senator Cassidy follows me on X, so I'm sure he saw the posts I sent his way yesterday. They need to hear from us directly. And here's why I feel so passionately about it, Charlie.

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Forget all that stuff about MMR vaccine, which will not be banned. Trump has said it will not be banned. Bobby has said it will not be banned. Bobby's past work to ask questions about it is in the past. He's not going to make this an issue. He's made that really clear. He has his beliefs about it, but Trump is the boss.

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Look at the COVID vaccine and what you said, how no one's allowed to ask questions about it. One of the people I ran into when I showed up at the RFKJ hearing was a guy named Carl Warner. And, and I know Kyle, Kyle Warner, because he came on the show.

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Exactly right. He's a mountain biker. And he came on the show during the height of the COVID nonsense and told his story. He lives in Oregon. All right. This is not some far right dude. And talked about what happened to him after this vaccine. And here's a clip of it. Watch.

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I don't, I'm only anxious now because my heart is racing and I'm worried about my heart. It's episode 222. It's very worth your time to go back and listen to Kyle's story. There's a reason he showed up. This is about more than the MMR vaccine, which is fine. It's in place. It's not going anywhere.

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It's about a whole, I know it gets overused, but medical industrial complex that cares more about hooking you on drugs like SSRIs and taking every single vaccine so that they can make a ton of money like Pfizer did, like Moderna did. They cannot be sued. And then they don't care. When you get vaccine injured like Kyle, they don't give a shit. Well, RFKJ cares. Jay Bhattacharya is going to care.

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Marty McCary, ideally at FDA, is going to care. And you need a disruptor like RFKJ at the top to run herd on it. Someone who will not be bullied by these behemoths who have more money than God.

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What is Callie Means saying? What is Dr. Casey Means behind him saying? They are talking about the toxins all throughout our society. Nicole Shanahan, who is RFKG's running mate. All these people are talking about what causes the obesity. You know, you may be right that it's not entirely your fault, but the solution for a 13-year-old is not Ozempic.

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It's to get him off of nonstop processed foods, which make you more fat, to get him off of seed oils, which, I mean, go back, and there's a lot of medical research on this now that talk about how that makes you more prone to hold onto your fat. Why are we demonizing meat, right, and lionizing bread for these kids? This team is going to stop all of that.

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And they're just, you know, whistling into the wind right now because they're being painted as a bunch of new age kooks. I totally agree with you. And honestly, like I know Ozempic has helped a lot of people, but it is a totally different game when you are an adult and you are capable of assessing risk versus being a child. I also want to say something else. There was a Singer?

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I saw her video on X. I didn't know this young woman, but she said she was only like 19 or 20 and she went on Ozempic and she was warning everybody that it caused massive bone density loss, that she was already suffering from osteoporosis and osteoporina. I forget the word.

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This is, I suffered from osteoporosis. This is years ago. This is even before Ozempic was a thing. I just wound up having kind of old lady bones. I don't know why it happens a lot to thin women who aren't like, it can be helpful to be a heavier person. Cause like you're, you're pounding your bones while you walk. And a lot of thin women wind up with this condition.

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Anyway, not for nothing, I've said this before, but I did go on this once a month injectable drug called E-Venity for whatever it's worth for 12 months. And truly it like cured the osteoporosis. Like it was gone. And yeah, I got to do a maintenance routine for like a year, the three years I think it is. But it's a miracle. For me, it was a miracle drug. Check with your own doctor, do all that.

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But I just wanted that young woman. I don't know how to reach this young woman, but I'm like, she should know about this. Not everybody knows about this drug. Okay, so anyway. That's, that's RFKJ. I don't know what's going to happen with him. Do you want to handicap that one?

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OK, I like that. I feel like Senator Cassidy is going to do the right thing. He seems like a good man to me. It doesn't seem like a lunatic with like a political agenda. I think he'll listen. I hope he'll listen. I hope he calls me now. Cash Patel is going to make it. But that one was just kind of fun. I mean, that was that was just fun to watch. It was really fun. Right.

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The exchange with Amy Klobuchar. Let me just kick it off with that one, because I loved it.

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That was amazing. It was obviously a rip on what they'd been doing to him. Nobody gave him any time to answer any questions. Right. I mean, I'm sorry.

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Yeah. No, I'm just saying, like, I'll give you one other example. Like here, for example, is how Maisie Hirono, the star of the Senate. How did Tulsi Gabbard and Maisie Hirono come from the same state? OK, here she is. This is what she did to him. Watch.

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He's getting through. And I would say RFKJ was more combative in his second day. And I think that's good. He needed to get out there and, you know, mix it up a little bit and not let them just beat up on him. All right. I've got to spend a minute on immigration.

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So Trump's amazing executive orders and the Lake and Riley Act now being signed into law, they are not going without some pushback from the Democrats. And of course, the pushback is just in so many corners. racist, elitist, classist, right? This is where they go every time. Like, who is going to mow my lawn?

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Truly, every time you hear them going with that line of argument, that brings me to Democratic strategist Jenna Arnold on a CNN panel with Scott Jennings in SOT 29.

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Well, we reached out to the pilots who we had on the show yesterday, John and Wiz, and we asked them to comment on the latest videos, these different angles, and I'm going to tell you exactly what they said to try to clear this up. We've got updates on that. We've got updates on the status of Trump's nominees, Tulsi Gabbard. Did she just get some good news? Kash Patel and Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

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have to sound like a Valley girl from 1987, then you know, you're nailing it. Um, I will tell you that my team said that this person reminded them of somebody who they thought I was going to want to see. And they teed something up for us, Charlie, which it's blacked out on my soundbite list because they wanted it to be a surprise. So let's see what they have in store for us.

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100% people, they don't work like I do when I choose between tan and white. Your thoughts on it?

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And that's smoothie. We saw some of this on display at Caroline Leavitt, who's the new press secretary. She's doing a great job. She's out there. She's being just as combative as the media deserves. She's not being unnecessarily combative. They come in there with hatred for her, Trump, his supporters and his agenda.

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And she is responding appropriately to a group of people who not only hate her and him, but are working actively to undermine him while masquerading as objective journalists. Here she is on the subject of these illegals in a White House press briefing on Tuesday, Sat 27.

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That's exactly right. And so what The New York Times is reporting today is that in that control tower, there was –

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Abigail Fine, you got to get the girls watching. Caroline Leavitt, keep going, Charlie.

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something unusual that, uh, the air traffic, the reason why the air traffic controller was handling both plane landings and helicopter landings at the same time, which is usually a job for two people quoting here from the times is because a supervisor combined those duties sometime before 9 30 PM and allowed one controller to leave the

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Absolutely right. And when I see her, I, I, I can tell she's young, but I see somebody who's going to be a massive threat as this job goes forward. Right. Because if she's this good, her first week on the job, they're going to have their hands full when she's been doing it for two years. Uh, so I hope it lasts because she does have a young baby and that's very, that's a very demanding job.

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I see like the press releases come out the night of the plane crash. It's like very, very difficult to have a little babe and do that job hats off to her, wishing her nothing but success and goodness in this role. Um,

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Before we get away from illegal immigration, listen to this Al Jazeera journalist trying to justify why it's going to be very tough for these countries of origin to take back their illegals. Like they really just need to be allowed to stay in the United States because I guess we're bigger and we can handle them better. Watch.

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That's an Al Jazeera journalist saying Mexico cannot handle the influx of their own citizens being returned to them, Charlie.

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Well, my take on it is now Trump says he's going to be sending them down to Gitmo. Great. Let's see if these countries of origin object. Right. You may get countries like Colombia, which are like, fine, great. Keep them at Gitmo. The point is, get them out of the United States. They shouldn't be our problem. Clarifying what I said, that wasn't an Al Jazeera journalist.

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It was a PBS special correspondent named Julia Galeano Rios on Al Jazeera's podcast called Take. So in any event, that's the immigration thing. I want to ask you the time we have left because, you know, you you spent a lot of time with people in the administration and you've done so much to get them in place in the first place.

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So what could possibly be next, Charlie, after the shock and awe of the first less than two weeks?

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according to a person briefed on the staffing who is not authorized to speak publicly. So for some reason we were undermanned in the air traffic control tower that night, one person was controlling both helicopters and planes, which was a break from protocol.

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Charlie, never in a million years did I think, even in that speech I gave in Pittsburgh, that he would do everything I said within the first 10 days. Even I did not see that coming. I have been overwhelmed with the goodness. I said to the audience, every day feels like Christmas. Every day feels like I got a raise. And then I got another raise the next day.

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And you're like, the way you feel just elated, like, oh my God, this is such a boon. This is wonderful. I just, I can't wait to see what he does next. And thank you so much for helping make it happen. No one more critical than you. Charlie Kirk, thank you, my friend.

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As you know, as you know, as a parent, every parent out there knows when there's a break from protocol, when, you know, typically the dad doesn't drive the kid to school, you know, the mom always does it. This is where things can happen. You know, like the,

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Not to get too grim, but this is where you find out that the kid was forgotten in the back of the car on a 100-degree day because they broke protocol. They broke the way they normally do it, and something went catastrophically wrong. Nobody meant for it to happen.

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It's just certain patterns get in place, and people do them ritualistically, and when you throw a fly into that ointment, things can go wrong. And they're saying that there should have been two air traffic controllers there and that for some reason they let one go early that night. And then what happens this? Now, people aren't really pointing to the air traffic controller.

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Some people are saying that the air traffic controller should have said rather than do you see the plane should have said pull up, you know, like a direction to the air to the helicopter as opposed to just relying on. the understanding that they were talking about the same regional jet. Obviously something went very wrong in the communications, but that's something to look at.

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And then separate it apart from that, or maybe it won't be separate and apart, we just don't know yet, is the whole discussion this has raised about DEI. Because the problem here, Charlie, is that there is no question we are undermanned in our air traffic control towers. And one of the reasons we are undermanned is because they've apparently made a big push since Obama's presidency,

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to eliminate or reduce the whites. They really had enough of trained white male pilots and people with air traffic control experience who happen to have piloting experience if they happen to be white and created this whole test For people to get in, that would rank your abilities. That's right. If you played four college sports, you got like four points.

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But if you had actual piloting experience in the military, you had zero points added to your resume to the point where there's this massive class action going forward by white guys saying this is illegal. You cannot discriminate against us based on our race, based on our gender. And this has been ongoing. So your thoughts on it?

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Here to break it all down for us is our pal Charlie Kirk, founder and CEO of Turning Point USA. Grand Canyon University, a private Christian university in beautiful Phoenix, Arizona, believes that we are endowed by our creator with certain unalienable rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. GCU believes in equal opportunity and that the American dream starts with purpose.

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Absolutely, and it helps the diverse people who pass the merit-based tests never have to be second-guessed or get that look, you know, like, is that person here because of his merit, or is he here because of skin color, or is she here because of her gender? If we just stick to merit, it helps minorities, it helps everybody.

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The other thing is I ask the people who are in support of this DEI in air traffic control, in piloting, in medicine, do you want your child going under the knife of a DEI surgeon? Do you want your child on the plane being piloted by a DEI pilot? Do you want your little one?

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By honoring your career calling, you can impact your family, friends and your community. Thank you so much for having me. GCU meets you where you are and provides a path to help you fulfill your dreams. The pursuit to serve others is yours. Let it flourish. Find your purpose at Grand Canyon University. Private. Christian. Affordable. Visit gcu.edu. Charlie, welcome back.

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Or would you prefer to know that this is the most talented pilot with the most talented air traffic controllers society can produce? And here's the thing about that.

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So there's a, there's a report in the Washington Post today, and we'll get to what Trump said, but there's a report in the Washington Post today saying Trump can rip all he wants on Obama for pushing to lower the standards for people who work in the air traffic control and as pilots. But he didn't, but he, he did it. He created it in 2019. That isn't true. We actually went back and looked.

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On Thursday, in the Sean Diddy Combs trial, an alleged victim of Combs going by the pseudonym Mia taking the stand. The jury is aware of Mia's real identity, though that information remains under seal. Mia worked for Combs as a former assistant and director of development and acquisitions for Revolt Films, describing the work environment as, quote, chaotic. It was toxic. It could be exciting.

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A witness in the Sean Diddy Combs trial speaks out as a former assistant and alleged victim takes the stand, recounting multiple instances of violence. Secretary of State Marco Rubio announces a crackdown on Chinese foreign nationals in the U.S. on student visas.

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The highs were really high and the lows were really low. Mia continuing, quote, He's thrown things at me. He's thrown me against the wall. He's thrown me into a pool. He's thrown an ice bucket on my head. Mia testifying to working long hours, going days in a row without sleep, staying up with the assistance of an extended-release ADHD medicine, eventually leading to a physical breakdown.

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The jury looking at a list of Mia's job responsibilities, including always staying within Combs' eyesight while on duty unless he advised otherwise. Mia saying she was not allowed to leave Combs' house without permission, nor was she allowed to lock her door when she stayed in his homes. Combs would often berate her and threaten her job.

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The witness saying she developed a close relationship with star witness Cassie Ventura. Mia describing Ventura's relationship with Combs as toxic, saying Combs always made the final decisions regarding Ventura's career. Mia saying Combs would dictate when and where she was allowed to hang out with Ventura. saying she was supposed to be keeping tabs on Ventura.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Friday, May 30th, 2025, and this is your AM Update.

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The witness testifying that if they did something without Combs' permission, quote, Mia testifying she often witnessed abuse in the Ventura-Combs relationship, describing an incident previously addressed in court by Ventura. Mia was with Ventura and stylist Deontay Nash, who has also testified, at Ventura's apartment when Combs showed up angry and began attacking Ventura.

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Mia thought Combs was going to kill Ventura. The witness saying, quote, me and Deontay immediately jumped in and tried to stop it. We were both just trying to get him off of her. At some point, he had Deontay in a position where I was scared he was going to kill him and I jumped on his back. He threw me against the wall so quick and so easily and I realized we were in real, real danger.

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The violence ending with Combs slamming Ventura's head on the bed frame, splitting open her forehead just above her eyebrow. The witness attesting to many more instances of violence by Combs, saying she did not report any of them to the police because she, quote, believed that Puff's authority was above the police.

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This was a period where years and years before social media or Me Too or any sort of example where someone had stood up successfully to someone in power such as him.

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Mia recounting that Combs sexually assaulted her multiple times while she was his employee, saying she was first victimized by him just a few months after she began working for him in 2009 at his birthday party held at a Plaza Hotel penthouse. Combs allegedly calling Mia into the kitchen, clearing out everyone else. Mia says he told her she was doing a great job.

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He then poured each of them two shots of alcohol. The shots affecting Mia more than usual, she said, and shortly afterward, saying Combs began kissing her and placing his hand up her dress. Mia testifying that the next thing she remembers is waking up in a chair in the meeting room of the penthouse, unable to remember how she got there.

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Mia describing another night waking up in her room in Combs' L.A. house, with, quote, the weight of a person on top of me. The witness testifying to feeling, quote, terrified and confused and ashamed and scared, telling prosecutors through sobs that she did not want to have sex with Combs. Mia says she never told Ventura about it. Her testimony will continue later today.

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Exotic dancer Sharae the Punisher Hayes speaking out on Wednesday to CNN about his role in the so-called freak-offs and his experience in the Combs trial. Last week, Hayes testifying that he was originally hired to dance for a bachelorette party at the Trump International Hotel. When Hayes arrived there, he was greeted by Ventura, who had booked the dance under a fake name.

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Hayes testifying that Ventura asked if he would be comfortable creating a sexy scene for her husband to watch with the husband being Combs. Hayes saying he was paid $2,000 for the encounter, going on to participate in eight to 12 more sessions with Ventura and Combs, never witnessing any kind of violence. Hayes here describing to CNN how it felt inside the courtroom.

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FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino slams former FBI Director James Comey over a social media post. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update. I would like to introduce you to a new brand of Angus beef. You can order it directly from Riverbend Ranch, which is located just a few miles from West Yellowstone, Montana.

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Throughout testimony, Hayes describing many interludes with Ventura, asked by CNN whether he had any with Combs during the so-called freak-offs.

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On the question of what he would say to Ventura now, if given the opportunity, Hayes responding.

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That's donewithdebt.com, donewithdebt.com. Secretary of State Marco Rubio announcing on Wednesday that the US will begin aggressively revoking visas of Chinese students, including those with connections to the Chinese Communist Party or who are studying in critical fields. Secretary Rubio did not define critical fields.

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Many CCP party officials send their children to study at American universities. including Chinese President Xi Jinping, his daughter graduating from Harvard in 2014, with few aware of her true identity during her time there, according to the New York Times.

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A report published by the State Department and the nonprofit Institute of International Education says about 277,000 Chinese nationals studied in America during the 2024 academic year. 277,000, the second largest group of international students after India. According to the assistant DHS secretary, Tricia McLaughlin, China accepting just 800 U.S. students in the same time period.

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In response to Rubio's announcement, a spokesperson for the Chinese foreign ministry saying, quote, the U.S. uses ideology and national security as a pretext to revoke Chinese student visas. It is fully unjustified. The spokesman continuing on to say, quote, this politically motivated and discriminatory move exposes the U.S. hypocrisy over freedom and openness.

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It will further damage the image and reputation of the U.S. itself. In 2018, then FBI Director Christopher Wray answering a question in a Senate intel hearing from then-Senator Rubio about the counterintelligence risk posed by Chinese students.

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In February, the House Committee on Homeland Security releasing a report outlining more than 60 cases of Chinese Communist Party espionage on U.S. soil. from 2021 to 2024, several of the suspects linked to U.S. universities.

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FBI Director Kash Patel and Deputy Director Dan Bongino in tight-lipped interviews this week on Fox News, revealing some new threads in high-profile investigations, teasing information but offering few details. Earlier this week, Bongino announcing the FBI is ramping up investigations into three high-profile cases,

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the January 6th pipe bomber, the Dobbs leak, and the cocaine found in the White House during President Biden's term.

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Patel and Bongino last week drawing criticism from many by definitively saying disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein did kill himself without providing any supporting evidence. Bongino announcing Thursday that new video footage will be made public eventually.

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Bongino stopping short of naming a specific date by which the footage would be released. Both Patel and Bongino slamming former FBI Director James Comey for wading into politics by posting a picture on his social media of seashells arranged to resemble the numbers 86-47, 86 being a common reference to killing and 47 a likely reference to President Trump.

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Comey denying across multiple media appearances promoting his new thriller novel that he had any idea that 86 could refer to killing, saying he just thought it meant canceling or removing something. In the wake of the incident, many Comey supporters posting similar 8647 messages to their own social media. On Wednesday, Director Patel warning the trend.

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On Thursday, Deputy Director Bongino going a step further.

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And that'll do it for your AM Update. I'm Megyn Kelly. Join me back here for The Megyn Kelly Show, live on SiriusXM Triumph Channel, 111 at Noon East, on YouTube.com slash Megyn Kelly, and on all podcast platforms.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and happy Friday. Yes, it's Friday. Did this feel like a long week to you or a short week? I'm kind of in between. In any event, it's going to be a great day today. It's day 67 of the Trump administration. Only 67. Can you believe that?

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For this sort of implicit agreement we have to live as non-barbarians in a country where we've agreed that there's this through line that will... keep us all within a certain bounds of behavior. And the Supreme Court has the ultimate authority on what the law is.

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Well, whatever, you know, better late than never. So we'll show you a lot of the clips from that. And we are also going to talk about this, the breaking news at the US Supreme Court.

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And the Supreme Court knows, however, John Roberts above all knows, if he hands down a ruling telling the commander in chief that the nine men and women in black robes have the final say, over what is perceived as a military threat unleashed on us by a foreign government, he's on the thinnest of possible ice. And he's so obsessed with the court, you just can't see him wanting to do it.

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Want to get to it all with editor-in-chief of Two-Way, Mark Halperin, and host of the new Megyn Kelly media podcast called Next Up with Mark Halperin, launching soon, along with former White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer and former Democratic strategist Dan Turrentine. Together, they are the hosts of The Morning Meeting on the Two-Way YouTube channel.

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Blowing off the Supreme Court is and that really is a true constitutional crisis. We can't have more Lake and Riley's while we wait this out. John Roberts, controversial, though he is, especially with righties who wanted somebody who was more like a Thomas or an Alito. He's a good man. And he is going to understand the danger of leaving little kids out there getting molested by these rapists.

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That is happening with these gang members. And young women and men being murdered by them. I mean, every week we have a story. So... Time is of the essence. It's long overdue, thanks to Joe Biden. And Trump is trying to clean up a mess that was not of his own making. I just don't see John Roberts wanting the Supreme Court to be the thing that stops him. We'll see.

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We'll know better after we hear from them and if we get an oral argument after that. Okay. Let's well, I want to get to Elon Musk and what happened last night because it was such good stuff. But before we go there, can we just spend a minute on something else Trump did yesterday, which I think is awesome and not getting enough attention. We got an executive order that

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that will pull wokeness, DEI, and radical, you know, race essentialism and gender ideology out of the federal museums, including most specifically the Smithsonian, the zoo, he mentioned. And also, he's directed J.D. Vance to restore the national monuments and statues that fell post-George Floyd, meaning they were ripped down by protesters.

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Not all necessarily, but he wants him to take a look at this. I mean, it wasn't all... you know, people who are pro-slavery or who were armies in the Confederate Army, or generals in the Confederate Army, Sean, that we tore down, we, the country, Christopher Columbus statues, Thomas Jefferson statues, George Washington statues, Ulysses S. Grant, Francis Scott Key.

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Like, you didn't have to be all that controversial for these things to get torn down. And so Trump is actually going to take a look, because, for example, at this women's museum... that's being built. He says specifically they were about to put trans women, meaning men, posing as women, and honors to them in this thing of Trump is stopping it in its tracks.

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What he's doing, Dan, is he's actually having J.D. Vance take a look at the Smithsonian and the zoo, etc., and he's having Doug Burgum, as Secretary of the Interior, take a look at public monuments, memorials, statues, markers, and similar properties that have been removed or changed, he says, to perpetuate a false reconstruction of American history, etc. He can't go after, like, state monuments.

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He can't go after... You know, the Museum of Natural History had Teddy Roosevelt out there. He got torn down because there was a Native American near him. Like, whatever. There's just been a lot of tearing down. He can't, if it's a local thing, he doesn't have jurisdiction. But the federal land stuff and federal monuments, he does. Here are a couple of examples. on what he's concerned about.

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In the Smithsonian American Art Museum, there's an exhibit that said, quote, "...societies, including the U.S., have used race to establish and maintain systems of power, privilege, and disenfranchisement." Bye. At another National Museum of African American History and Culture, proclaimed that hard work, individualism, and the nuclear family are aspects of white culture. Bye.

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And then, as I told you, the Women's History Museum, soon it will be forthcoming, planned to feature female... athletes, including male athletes who claim to be female, which is not a thing. It's not real and it's not recognized by the Trump administration. So what do you think? I mean, here's the interesting thing. It's going to happen. Trump will sanitize these organizations of all this.

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And then we're going to be in an interesting position four years from now if a Democrat were to win the presidency. Because I think this stuff will be very popular to get rid of this nonsense, to put back up the non-controversial statues, George Washington among them.

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And whenever Trump does something, I guess, with an EO, Dan, I've been asking myself, would the Democrats really have the nerve to tear back down George Washington, to shove back in the race essentialism at the Smithsonian, the trigger warnings on the National Archives that were all over the electronic database about our declaration of independence? What do you think?

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What do you know? Tim Walsh has a bone to pick with you, my friend. He was out there campaigning with Beto O'Rourke. Why? I don't. But he was out there having a town hall with Beto. And he sees the loss in 2024 very differently than you do, my friend. Here he is.

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The Republicans, and frankly, the more centrist Democrats who objected to this stuff when it was overwhelming us, they were silent about those objections because they were scared. Not only has that fright been eliminated, they're emboldened. They voted for Trump. He's emboldened all of them. They're ready for this war. They now have learned that they're in the majority.

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and that this was a temporary insanity that we went through and that it has to be stopped because it's actually extremely dangerous. It's like the whole, everything's turned, you know, in the past five years been dramatic. So I agree with you. It will not be brought back because the popular will of the people will not allow it.

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Now I opened the show talking about Elon on with Brett Baer and some members of the I did wonder in watching it, why didn't we see this earlier? These guys are amazing. We should all be on our hands and knees at night thanking God that men, and I presume there are women too, they weren't on the set last night, are willing to to take time off from their real jobs and real lives and do this for us.

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Here's just a little bit. You mentioned this in your last answer of Joe Jebbia, the Airbnb co-founder and Doge Digital Retirement Project guy. Here he is, Saten.

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Mark, I'm so excited to be working together. I can't wait to get this thing started. And the feedback from the viewers has been overwhelming. They are in love with this idea.

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He said that we're actually at the point where we have to train federal employees on how to retire. They have to go through a training.

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It is embarrassing. You know, Mark, what American student at home is going to have any reaction to that other than, what?

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Mark, my words, you will be. OK, let's get to it. So moments ago. The Trump administration filing a petition with the U.S. Supreme Court asking it to review the Court of Appeals order in the Judge Boasberg case on the deportations of Venezuela, suspected Venezuelan gang members.

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This has been one of, if not the biggest legal matter that they've been hashing out in the courts, though how can you really choose? And Trump lost on Wednesday with a divided DC Circuit three-judge panel. A Trump-appointed judge would have sided with the administration. An Obama-appointed judge sided with the ACLU. And the splitter was an H.W.

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Bush appointee who sided with the Obama judge and said, you can't use the Alien Enemies Act to just deport a bunch of people. Now, here's what's interesting. So they're asking the Supreme Court for immediate review because right now what's happening is Judge Boasberg's order halting these deportations stands.

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I mean, that sounds so right. Sean, you've worked for the federal government. That sounds so right that you'd have to go through that number of people whose only job is to do two things, give you a laptop and give you a phone, which literally should take, even if you consider setting up your password and getting you registered on it, at most a half an hour.

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So the Trump policy has effectively been shut down until we get a final ruling from the U.S. Supreme Court on this. And there's been no real evidentiary hearing. Trump is in there saying, no, the policy should be allowed to go forward until we have our final order. This is wrong. Okay, so we'll find out what the Supreme Court does.

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The least amount of time you want to take on new training. Personally, I think they should just move all these records onto Signal. Could make everybody's life easier.

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I'd get at it in. The best people use it. All right. Stand by guys. I will be right back. And I want to play you an extraordinary exchange with Elon. Let's talk about that car you own, but don't use the one you're paying to keep registered and insured. It's just sitting out there, taking up space out front and it's not doing anybody any good. You have a choice. You can give cars for kids.

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Or just call Cars for Kids directly at 1-877-CARS4KIDS and they will get that car picked up quickly. Plus, you can get a tax deduction and a vacation voucher. These guys have been around for 30 years. You've seen the ads, right? They've done this over a million times. Call now or head on over to KARS, K-A-R-S, the numeral four, and then kids.org slash MK right now to get this done.

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I mean, not said was one of the judges he's thinking about is almost certainly Judge Boasberg, who is the one behind the blocking of Trump's effort to deport Venezuelan suspected gang members to El Salvador. Back with me now, my panel, Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine of Two-Way. Okay. I did look up the SCOTUS protocol for that appeal, and here's how it's going to go down.

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So just for those who weren't with us at the top of the hour, the Trump administration has appealed the DC Circuit Court of Appeals ruling against him on his effort to use the Alien Enemies Act to deport suspected Venezuelan gang members out of the United States and place them in an El Salvadorian prison. The trial court judge was Judge Boasberg.

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But as this happens, a very interesting piece in the news this morning. Okay, it was, do you have it, Abby? All right, no, I don't think that's it. Hold on, stand by, stand by. Okay, I've got it. Sorry, I have so much paper. This is all stuff we're gonna be getting to, so buckle up. The question is whether...

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An Obama appointee originally put on the bench by W many years ago, but elevated to the federal bench by Obama. He has had a leftward bent, no question. And he's got a wife and a daughter who own or work in and run, respectively, an abortion clinic and reportedly the daughter with this NGO organization that helps illegals and gang members.

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So yeah, I think that's what Elon's suggesting is maybe going on there. And now the Trump administration, just before he came to air, has appealed their loss on the temporary restraining order Boesberg put against them to the U.S. Supreme Court just before we came to air.

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You know how like after 100 days, the news media always looks back and says like, what did this president accomplish? It's only day 67. He's lived up to virtually every single campaign promise he made. It's absolutely stunning. Through no thanks of the courts who have been trying to stop him via leftist petitions to do just that at every turn. And we have breaking news on that in one second.

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They want the high court to lift that temporary restraining order so they can continue deporting these Venezuelan illegals and shipping them off to El Salvador during the pendency of the litigation. And I was unclear when we started whether Justice Roberts could do this, Chief Justice, alone. And I was right. He can do it alone. He's the Chief Justice of the United States.

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And each justice on the court has a region of the country for which he or she is responsible. And as the chief justice, he oversees the D.C. region, which is where this case is coming out of because all these federal government agencies are in D.C. Anyway, that's where it is. And so John Roberts, if he wants to, can grant the relief himself. He could, with the stroke of his pen, lift the TRO.

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and say, have at it, Trump. And then the case would go back down to Judge Boasberg for litigation on the merits. They would hash it out. It's not a final adjudication, but it is on the TRO. It's in a form of relief that he could grant to Trump. Or he could say, I'll give you an expedited briefing schedule in front of the United States Supreme Court at large.

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And so we'll keep the pedal down, but we'll let all nine of us decide whether you can do this. Or he could just deny it. and say, I'm not dealing with any of this yet and kick it back down, which would be a loss for Trump. So Trump could win with a stroke of a Robert's pen. He could lose with a stroke of a Robert's pen, or he could get a hearing in front of the all nine justices.

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And, uh, hopefully we'll find out soon which one of those it's going to be. Okay. Elon Musk sat across from me in September at the all in summit. and said one of the main reasons he wanted Donald Trump elected and was willing to serve and was talking about forming Doge and finding the efficiencies was his experience as really a rocket scientist, right? As a rockets guy.

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And talked about how it takes longer to get the permission slip, in his words, to launch a rocket than it does to build the rocket. And how insane it is and how, you know, you... you'd get fined $40,000 for dumping potable water, like water that one could drink. You'd dump it out of the spaceship when you got back and the government would swoop in and fine you for it.

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You say, well, what do you mean it's potable water? Why am I getting fined? That comes out of the sky. Why if God drops it, is there no fine? But if I drop it, I'm getting fined. Well, that's just the rules. That's the way, well, what do you mean? Like, I'm trying to get us to Mars. Why are you hassling me this way?

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Like I could, my daughter could come by with a little garden pitcher and do the same thing. You're gonna fine her 40,000. This is what he was dealing with. And he had it up to his eyeballs, which is why he's now doing all of this, the red tape. And for those out there thinking it may just be a Republican issue, think again, because Ezra Klein of the New York Times, who's on this book tour,

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making a bunch of stops, swung on by Jon Stewart's podcast, I guess. I don't follow Jon Stewart at all, and it makes me a very happy person. But there was the following exchange.

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The Alien Enemies Act can be used by a president when it's not technically a time of war, meaning war hasn't been declared by Congress, but the president has used other language from the Alien Enemies Act to declare an invasion or an incursion. Now, Judge Boasberg was not convinced that a president can do that by proclamation and that if he can, it's an appropriate circumstance here.

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This is the $42 billion expansion of broadband internet service under Joe Biden, which has yet to connect a single household. Ezra Klein there detailing how in the end, only three of the 56 jurisdictions that did apply for it actually finished the process by the end of 2024. I mean- this is just, this is devastating. And you know why, you know why?

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I mean, you guys tell me, I'll let any of you take it. This is why I think Trump's approval ratings are at a historic high for him and why the direction of the country numbers are so positive for him is because everyone knows this. They didn't apply for broadband, broadband, internet expansion, but they've had to deal with the federal government when they're Tax refund didn't come.

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It's a nightmare when they wanted to go on Medicare Advantage and upgrade. When anything went wrong with their federal government paperwork, they had to correct it. We've all been there, calling or dealing with the federal government on any of this stuff, never mind your taxes. It's a nightmare. So what Elon's saying, the Doge guys are saying, and Ezra's saying, it all has the ring of truth.

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And I do think while Elon's getting battered and bruised, The people are generally going to back this. Maybe they feel a little bad about the layoffs of the federal employees. Maybe they just don't really like Elon because he's brash. But they like the cleanup in aisle seven. Who would like to take that?

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Explain to them. Yes. All right. So I tease this before we took the break. We got into a bit of why Elon is disliked by some. You know, he's not afraid to throw a barb on X, which he owns. You know, he's not he doesn't sound like Supreme Court Justice John Roberts. He does not sound like he doesn't speak the same way he does.

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And one of the things he did was to call Senator Mark Kelly of Arizona, a Democrat who's married to Gabby Giffords. And he's the brother of Scott Kelly, both of whom are astronauts. Scott's amazing, by the way, came on my show at NBC and told us all about how he was a straight C student. straight C, right? Isn't that your first question? Did you get all A's? You crushed physics.

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You know, you were a math whiz and a science. No, he was like, I was listless. I had no direction. And I was a terrible student. He became an astronaut. That's brother Scott, brother Mark, also an astronaut and now a Democrat senator. Elon called him a traitor in the context of Ukraine. And Brett asked him about it. And listen to this answer.

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And the Court of Appeals agreed with Judge Boasberg on those points. They're not convinced that this is an incursion or an invasion as those terms would typically be used. Enter this piece. today, it's posted on Real Clear Politics. It's by Bart Marquois, C-O-I-S. And he makes the strong case based on another piece of journalism he had witnessed that Trenda Aragua is indeed

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Pretty powerful. Mark Kelly came in his crosshairs because he posted something on X about having just returned from Ukraine and how, in his view, it was very important that we stand by Ukraine. He wrote, everyone wants the war to end, but any agreement has to protect Ukraine's security. Can't be a giveaway to Putin. Went on from there.

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Here again, I have to say, Dan, I think the American public is with Elon. I think the American public, while they have nothing but empathy in general for Ukraine, they realize where we are, that this thing needs to end and that we can't keep throwing good money after bad as Americans.

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I want to get to what Elon's doing in Wisconsin because this is an important election that's coming on Tuesday, and you guys are the people to ask about it. But before we go to the special elections and what's happening in Wisconsin with this judicial election, can we spend a minute on Hillary Clinton?

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Hillary Clinton decided to drop an op-ed in The New York Times today that's entitled, How Much Dumber Will This Get?, And she uses Signalgate and the messaging by Pete Hegseth and Mike Walls and J.D. Vance and Tulsi and others on there as the jumping off point to talk about how dumb the Trump administration is. Some highlights.

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She calls the Trump administration hypocritical, dangerous and dumb over this story. It's not the hypocrisy that bothers me. It's the stupidity. We're all shocked, shocked that president Trump and his team don't actually care about protecting classified information or federal record retention laws. I mean, this is so rich given her history, but we knew that already.

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This is her just trying to say like, I did nothing wrong. And my whole controversy was made up. No one actually cares about any of that because they're not blaming Trump harder. And Trump allowed this in the first place.

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What's much worse is that top Trump administration officials put our troops in jeopardy by sharing military plans on a commercial messaging app and unwittingly invited a journalist into the chat. That's dangerous. And it's just dumb. Okay, I mean, fine. I really think Hillary Clinton should have sat this one out, given she's in no position to throw stones. She did this willingly.

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She had her homebrew server for years, an intentional choice. Actually, we do need to stop and take that one on for a minute. Like for years, an intentional choice that she's trying to be like, no one really gave a shit about that. This is far worse. This unintentional mistake that was done by adding in the journalist.

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And yes, they obviously they intentionally chose signal to have the discussion on. But we've already heard in recent days, Mark, that this was a means of communication used by the Biden administration. I just think she should have had Bill write it. She should have had some friend of hers on Team Blue write it. Someone other than the person with this brand of problems.

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it qualifies as a military incursion that's been unleashed on us by the Venezuelan government. And he goes through it in great detail, guys. He says, there was an extraordinary article last week by Miami Herald investigative reporter, Antonio Maria Delgado, And Delgado interviewed a team of high-level investigators and analysts who had been following the Venezuelan regime for over 10 years.

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Here's what really galls me, Sean. She writes that as Secretary of State under Obama, she used smart power, while Trump is now using dumb power. As Secretary of State during the Obama administration, I argued for smart power, integrating the hard power of our military with the soft power of our diplomacy, development assistance, economic might, and cultural influence.

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None of those tools can do the job alone. Together, they make America a superpower. The Trump approach is dumb power. I believe she's talking about, among other things, Ukraine, where she was Secretary of State when we went over there. And to say we meddled in their election is to understate where we are today as a result of that meddling, in part. for which she takes no responsibility.

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She just talks about how smart she was and the way she manipulated the world and how dumb Trump is, who's now again having to clean up a massive Democrat fueled, if not made, but at least fueled mess that's cost countless numbers of lives.

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Wait, one quick follow up for you on it, Sean. Then she goes on to say she criticizes him for deemphasizing the importance of embassies. Oh, my God. Why would she touch anything having to do with an embassy or a diplomatic facility after Benghazi?

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The only team member to speak on the record was Gary Birdson, among the most highly decorated CIA veterans in recent history. The author here spoke with Birdson as well. He confirmed that Tren de Aragua was purposefully sent into the U.S. to destabilize our country by the Venezuelan government.

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I remember how she tried to act bored during the Benghazi hearings. Like, Oh my God, I have to listen to this nonsense. Well, also server or cell phones were wrong either.

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I mean, we lost an ambassador. Like she, now she's just kind of like, oh, the embassies, there's a de-emphasis. Would you like to have the embassy conversation? Because we could do that. We could definitely get back into it. You purported to be bored about it. I know you like this thing, Dan. How did you like this thing?

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Quoting Bernson here, the Venezuelan regime has assumed operational control of these guys, trend to Aragua, and has trained 300 of them. They have given them paramilitary training, training them to fire weapons and how to conduct sabotage. They have given them all a four to six week course. They put these 300 guys...

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Oh, I want to ask you a follow-up on Signalgate, but you mentioned that they won't do it because they're former presidents. And, you know, there's this, I guess, unwritten rule, or at least used to be about unwritten, about sitting presidents.

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Former president's trashing the sitting president. And this is what Joey Behar said about it on Thursday.

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And just quickly, just found in like a 30-second Google search, here's Joe Biden as president.

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Hey. So, yeah, some of that was when Trump had declared. But I could have given you 20 other examples of Trump not running, of him doing it. There's no there's no rule anymore. The only rule is there's no rules. It's just like the same as the end of Greece when Danny Zuko and Kaneki were doing the drag race. The rule is there ain't no rules. That's where we are in today's day and age.

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Back to Signalgate. Mark, what is happening? with the weirdness between what seems to be like Team Hexeth and Team Walsh? Like, are these two guys maneuvering against each other to see, like, if one of us has to go down, it's going to be you? What's happening?

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through that course, and then they were deploying them into the United States to 20 separate states. And Bernson confirming to the author here that sabotage includes arson, taking a look at the LA wildfires, the cause of which we still have not yet determined and so on. The CIA, he says, doesn't have this information, according to Berenson, because they refuse to look at it.

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All right, Sean, same question to you. What do you see happening there? Yeah, go ahead.

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Can you, can you speak to what he was saying about, you know, the biggest question is, and I've heard this too from Trump, how did Jeffrey Goldberg get into Mike Wallace's phone? Something Mike is denying, but we all know he was in there in one way, shape or form, or this mistake could not have happened.

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I bet there is. You don't want to look like Joy Reid. Like, I don't know who made those anti-LGBTQ entries on my blog. I demand an FBI investigation. I agree with you. I don't think it's that controversial to have weird, bad, nasty anti-Trump reporters or whatever. In your context, it's like the nature of all of our industry. You deal with people you can't stand.

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I don't think they should have said it's not war plans. I just don't think that was worth a worthwhile argument. Well, I don't think he should have said Jeffrey Goldberg wasn't in Mike. I just think all of it, they should have said, here's exactly what happened. You just, I mean, the way you put out a scandal is you say, here's everything, here's everything. Thank you.

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We tried to brief them about this three years ago. They were directed by the Biden administration to ignore it. And now those officials are trying to undermine President Trump, who listened. I have to tell you, as a lawyer, this is a very important addendum to this argument.

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And if they can just get a hearing in front of this court to justify Trump's declaration of invasion or incursion, I'll start with you on it, Spicer, it could be a game changer.

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But first, just let me give you a couple of the headlines we're looking at this morning. We've got Elon Musk's Doge now going on real offense. This seems like overdue to me because, look, they've been taking such a beating in the press in terms of their reputation and so on. And finally, they spoke out. They went on with Brett Baer last night, Elon, and some of his top lieutenants in Doge.

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Mm-hmm. I don't, you know, this clearly has the support, I think, of most Americans. The deportation plan in general, Mark, has the support of most Americans. Maybe they've got some questions on Tyrande or Aragua, but if so, that hasn't manifested in any polls I've seen. I think, you know, the more dangerous the potential illegals are, the more Americans want them gone.

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So what's going to happen there and why does everyone care so very much? And is it redistricting that this court is going to have the final say on?

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So, Dan, is what's going to happen? Let's say that if the Democrat wins, then the Democrats control that court. And then is it true that that could mean as many as two congressional seats, additional congressional seats for the Democrats?

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But you tell me how you see it, because as a legal matter, it's tricky, but I think Trump's in the right. But the biggest matter will be politically. If the Supreme Court doesn't uphold the D.C. Circuit and allows Trump to do this, how does it play? And if they don't allow Trump to do this, how does it play?

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Hmm. I don't like the chances in Wisconsin, but I'm heartened by the fact that the polls in Wisconsin are never correct. I mean, it's just like you you can't it's like having no poll whatsoever. So I suppose anything could happen because Trump won it. So, you know, it's not like so did Ron Johnson.

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The GOP has to learn to win without Trump because he's not going to be on the ballot again. I mean, I know there's some ban and talk, but he's not going to be on the ballot again. You guys, it's a pleasure. Have a great weekend. It's so great to see you. Thanks for sticking with us.

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Wow. So interesting. Aren't those guys great? Uh, if you would like to weigh in on the show, you can email me Megan at Megan Kelly.com. And today's the day to go to Megan Kelly.com because there you can register for our once a week email.

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We call it the American news minute, and it gives you all the week news, uh, in 60 seconds or less, plus some fun highlights of the show and some Stradwick antics. And I think you'll really like this week's Stradwick update among, among other things that are newsy. Uh, thank you all so much for watching and you have a great weekend too. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show.

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Here's how the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals saw it, Dan. They said, we understand that the government is arguing that we've had these unwanted illegals come into the country unlawfully and you're calling it an invasion or an incursion. But the court said... Those terms, as used in this statute, must be considered in their military sense.

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Now, already, as a lawyer, I'm thinking, okay, that's fine. Who has the ultimate say on military calls? It's the commander-in-chief. It's not Judge Boesberg. And it's not even the U.S. Supreme Court. And if you read the terms of the Alien Enemies Act— It specifically says that.

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I mean, the Supreme Court's already said we don't have jurisdiction to review commander in chief calls under this, but under very limited circumstances, they can review a couple of pieces of it. So in any event, that's what they said. First of all, those terms invaded or encourage incursion has to be considered in the military sense. And then they go on to say.

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OK, these words in the statute must be read to mean, quote, a hostile encroachment by a nation state and concluded that these conditions do not exist because we haven't had a hostile encroachment by a nation state. Now, if this stuff about Trenda Aragua is true, that's a very different story. And Judge Boasberg had no right to shut down the commander in chief's call on this because

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And what a difference. I think the numbers on Doge are going to go up after that interview and pretty quickly, their efforts to cut waste, fraud, and abuse. Now having seen them, I'm like, why did they let this image of just young whippersnappers in their backpacks and like surfer boy clothes go on as long as they did? These are studs and they should have been put out there a little earlier.

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just with his pen. He hasn't had an evidentiary hearing at all. He shut it down saying, I believe they're gonna win. And the DC Circuit Court said, yeah, us too. And now if the Supreme Court doesn't step in, this whole policy could be shut down, even though the Venezuelans really may be trying to send an incursion into the United States because Judge Boasberg thinks he knows better.

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Yeah, with the worst of the worst, at least in some cases. The Trump administration is asking for an urgent review at the U.S. Supreme Court. And my understanding is, though, I'm going to have to go back and check this, but my understanding is it's potential. It's potentially the case that Chief Justice John Roberts will be able to grant that.

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I know he can either at least grant them urgent review. My only question is whether he can actually, without the support of at least four justices in this circumstance, reverse the temporary restraining order being blocked. Anyway, I'll find out. But this is getting hotter, this whole case. And now it's going up to the big boys and girls who actually will... have the final say.

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And one of the reasons why that's good is because I've made this point on this case before, but the Supreme Court's more aware than anyone, more aware than anyone, Mark, that they don't have police power. And that the only thing that gets us to comply with their rulings is our general respect for the rule of law for one another.

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An update on the cause of death for former U.S. Attorney Jessica Aber. The family saying the 43-year-old died in her sleep, releasing a statement reading, quote, Jess suffered from epilepsy and epileptic seizures for many years. Ms. Aber was found unresponsive in her Alexandria, Virginia home on Saturday morning.

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The case will remain open until the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner completes its report. Police officials believe her death to be the result of natural causes. As U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia, Ms. Aber oversaw many high-profile cases, including CIA leaks and international fraud. Her successor, U.S.

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Attorney Eric Siebert, offering in a statement, quote, Her professionalism, grace, and legal acumen set the standard. Though we are devastated by this loss, each of us in the Eastern District of Virginia will look to her example and endeavor to live up to it. And that'll do it for your AM update. I'm Megyn Kelly.

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Vance in Greenland today, along with Second Lady Usha Vance, National Security Advisor Mike Walz, and Energy Secretary Chris Wright. The agenda now a scaled back version of what was originally planned. The trip, announced on Sunday, billed as a solo goodwill visit for Ms. Vance to absorb and learn about Greenland's culture. Ms.

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Vance had planned a tour of the capital, Nook, as Mr. Waltz and Secretary Wright visited the U.S. Space Force base in Bidoofik, about 600 miles away. Mr. Waltz's inclusion on the trip, sparking backlash from Greenlandic and Danish officials, As President Trump vows to acquire the semi-autonomous territory, quote, one way or another.

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The goodwill souring when a Greenland tourism business, Tupeluk Travel, canceled a planned meet and greet event with the second lady. The business posting to Facebook, quote, we have now informed the consulate that we do not want her visit as we cannot accept the underlying agenda and will not be part of the press show.

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Vice President J.D. Vance in Greenland today scaling back plans following a lack of hospitality from Greenlandic and Danish officials.

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Shortly after that public snub, Vice President Vance announcing he would join the trip himself, posting this message to X.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Friday, March 28th, 2025, and this is your AM Update.

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The delegation now only scheduled to visit the U.S. Space Force base. Trips to U.S. bases by American officials are generally considered routine and non-controversial. Denmark Foreign Minister Lars Luka Rasmussen saying, quote, I think it's very positive that the Americans have canceled their visit among Greenlandic society.

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They will only visit their own base, Bidu Fik, and we have nothing against that. President Trump on Wednesday doubling down on his desire to take control of the Arctic island.

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The trip marking Vice President Vance's and NSA Waltz's first overseas trip since the Atlantic magazine reported that its editor-in-chief was somehow admitted into a private signal messaging group used by senior administration officials.

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The message is revealing debate among top intel officials on the pros and cons of attacking Houthi rebels in order to break their hold on an important global shipping lane. Mr. Vance writing in the chat, quote, The Wall Street Journal reporting, quote, European leaders had hoped that Vice President Vance's antagonism was a political show to build domestic support.

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Officials are coming to terms with a vocal vice president whose antipathy for Europe appears to run deep. In recent months, Mr. Vance making waves on the world stage, delivering a clear message on behalf of the president. The United States will support its allies, but only if they act like friends.

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President Trump making it a key priority of his second administration, getting European allies to step up and pay their fair share. Attorney General Pam Bondi early Thursday morning announcing a major arrest.

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Attorney General Pam Bondi announcing the capture of a high-profile MS-13 gang member. RFKJ announcing a streamlining of the sprawling HHS department. President Trump asks New York Congresswoman Elise Stefanik to withdraw her nomination for U.N. ambassador. And new details in the mysterious death of former U.S. Attorney Jessica Aber. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update.

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The suspect, 24-year-old Henry Josue Viatoro Santos. The charges against him and where he is currently being held, not yet released. Virginia is not a sanctuary state, but several localities, mostly in northern Virginia where Mr. Santos was arrested, have policies barring local officials from cooperating with the feds. The Operation A Joint Effort between federal, state, and local officials...

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Virginia Governor Glenn Youngkin describing the cooperation leading to the arrest.

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MS-13 is one of the most violent gangs in the world. Originally forming in the 1980s on the streets of Los Angeles, now based in El Salvador, the gang extends into Honduras, Guatemala, and Mexico with thousands of members. Members are often required to commit a murder to gain membership. Their motto? Kill, rape, control. The gang responsible for many gruesome, high-profile murders in America.

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In 2017, a female member lured the group of men into a Long Island park where they were hacked to death in a planned ambush. Dozens of reports outlining similar instances of brutality against Americans. FBI Director Kash Patel remarking at the press conference, the work of their task force is far from finished.

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The Virginia Homeland Security Task Force arresting more than 340 of their 575 illegal alien targets. Secretary of Health and Human Services RFKJ announcing a restructuring of the sprawling department he oversees.

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The new umbrella group for the streamlined departments will be called the Administration for a Healthy America, or AHA. A nod to the MAHA movement, the new department combining offices handling addiction, toxic substances, occupational safety, mental health, and others.

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In late February, the Office of Budget and Management issuing a memorandum directing federal agencies to prepare plans to downsize. since the beginning of the second Trump administration, about 10,000 HHS employees accepting buyout offers. RFKJ's plan will cut about another 10,000. Secretary Kennedy says his department is filled with tremendous bloat and redundancies.

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HHS operates under a budget of $1.7 trillion. RFKJ saying this restructuring will save the department about $1.8 billion each year. Democrats? Not thrilled.

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Secretary Kennedy maintains no core functions of the department will be compromised. The announcement on the heels of two big confirmations within HHS. On Tuesday, Stanford professor Dr. Jay Bhattacharya confirmed on a party line vote as head of the NIH. Wow. Dr. Bhattacharya, an early critic of COVID lockdowns, promising to open up robust scientific debate within his organization.

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It was just three years ago he was being smeared as a fringe doctor by Fauci and Collins. The Senate also confirming Dr. Marty McCary of Johns Hopkins as commissioner of the FDA. three Democrats joining Republicans to confirm Dr. McCary, New Hampshire Senators Maggie Hassan and Jeanne Shaheen, as well as Illinois Senator Dick Durbin.

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Both doctors, key allies of President Trump and Secretary Kennedy, committed to carrying out the administration's vision of making America healthy again. Coming up, President Trump asks New York Congresswoman Elise Stefanik to withdraw her nomination for U.N. ambassador. And new details emerge in the untimely death of former U.S. Attorney Jessica Aber. Tariff wars, stubborn inflation.

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President Trump requesting that New York Congresswoman Elise Stefanik withdraw her nomination for ambassador to the United Nations. Mr. Trump writing on Truth Social, quote, As we advance our America First agenda, it is essential that we maintain every Republican seat in Congress. We must be unified to accomplish our mission.

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And Elise Stefanik has been a vital part of our efforts from the very beginning. With a very tight majority, I don't want to take a chance on anyone else running for Elise's seat. Congresswoman Stefanik will rejoin the House Republican leadership ranks. She stepped down from her position as conference chair following her nomination to the U.N.

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The current balance of power in the House standing at 218 to 213, giving Republicans a very narrow edge. That advantage could shrink further, depending on the outcomes of four upcoming special elections. Ms. Stefanik, a close Trump ally, was one of the first nominations of the second Trump administration. The announcement made just days after the election.

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The congresswoman, at age 30, was the youngest woman ever elected to Congress at the time, in 2014, when she ran as a moderate. She was reelected in 2016, embracing the MAGA agenda in the first Trump administration. In nominating her to the UN, President Trump describing Ms. Stefanik as, quote, an incredibly strong, tough, and smart America first fighter.

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The president referencing moments like this one in December 2023, as she grilled the Ivy League president's handling of illegal displays of on-campus anti-Semitism.

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House Speaker Mike Johnson releasing a statement that reads, quote, There is no doubt Congresswoman Stefanik would have served with distinction as our ambassador to the U.N., but we are grateful for her willingness to sacrifice that position and remain in Congress to help us save the country. The House is currently working on major pieces of legislation, involving the border, energy, and taxes.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and happy Friday. It's a busy end to the week today with Ukrainian President Zelensky at the White House this morning in a meeting with President Trump that could be the first real step toward peace in Ukraine. Plus, Andrew Tate back in America.

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So- Dragging these people to the White House and using them in this way undermine their credibility, to which I object. Libs of TikTok has been, she's been a heroine, a heroine in this whole DEI battle, in the whole gender madness battle. Truly, this to me almost seems like a Biden psyop to try to undermine the growing credibility of independent people who have been breaking big news

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and important voices in our country. And it was like, how can we take the legs out from under them? Right. So it's like, look, they'll recover. Nobody's blaming them. I think, you know, people understand this was done to them, not exactly by them.

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Um, but now you've also put them in a position where they feel like they have to defend the white house because they were given this quote scoop and met with the president. You know, it's like all very fraught and some, I don't know. I'm not sure if somebody's head needs to roll, but like, something should be done.

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If I were Pam Bondi, I'd definitely be giving these people the exclusive of the real information so that you can rehabilitate the people you, for some reason, hurt.

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Well, it is complicated, right? Because there was a report yesterday that Trump had an event at the White House on women in sports, boys playing in girls sports and women in sports, and invited a group of outspoken women on this issue to the White House. And online, there were some complaints that some of the women who had been invited to the first signing of the EO, like Riley Gaines,

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and some of the others who have been in commercials with her and so on, were not invited back. Oh, I think because yesterday or the day before was about NCAA. The NCAA... made a deal of like going along with Trump's EO, like, okay, we're not gonna allow boys and women sports. And it turned out to be full of loopholes.

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I mean, all of my women who I follow on this issue online have been jumping up and down, very pissed off at the NCAA for trying to make it look like they're on board with the Trump EO, but actually creating a policy through which any truck could be driven. And so the NCAA hasn't satisfied team reality when it comes to sex and gender at all. And they've been outspoken about it.

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That includes Riley and some pointing out that she was not invited back. The White House saying, well, we just wanted to make room for other athletes. But look, let's face it.

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you know, who among us hasn't been burned by criticizing, it could be the Trump White House, could be the Biden, whatever, someone in power with whom you were getting along and then you do something that pisses them off and you get put in the penalty box. I will say my own experience with Trump, and I think I'm a great person to speak to this, is

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You may go into the penalty box for a time, but you will come out of the penalty box. Trump can get mad at you. I'm sure his staff can get mad at you, but they're not real grudge holders. So my advice to all these people is just hold on to your integrity, you know, report it as it comes, whatever, whether it makes them look bad or good.

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I love it. And not coincidentally, very beautiful women as well. All right, let's start with the absolute bust of Epstein. This was such a joke. So I'm not, everything about this was poorly handled. I'm a big Pam Bondi fan. I love that she's running DOJ.

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I agree. So we've botched round one of the big Epstein file release. And at the same time in the news yesterday was the return of the despicable Tate brothers to the United States. Now, I don't know much about the brother Tristan, but I've seen enough about Andrew Tate to realize he's a disgusting pig misogynist. And that's fine.

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You can be a disgusting pig misogynist and live in the United States of America. It's really not much of my business. His return to the United States. OK, I don't really care. I mean, he's an American citizen. He's got dual citizenship, U.S. and U.K.

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So I guess he's allowed to come back because supposedly these charges against him for sex trafficking, et cetera, in Romania, some have been dropped due to some prosecutorial negligence in the case and others are remaining. They're supposed to go back to Romania in the next year or so to go answer more. They're also facing potential charges in the UK, same type of thing.

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What I care about, because I don't know the legalities and I haven't looked into them, so I'm not going to, you know, tie them up there. What I know is he's a disgusting, vile creature with whom I want nothing to do. And the more influence he has over the young men of America, the more my stomach turns. And it's because Andrew Tate is not just an alleged criminal. Put that to the side.

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He's just a very bad man. And I'll give you an example in this butted shot that we've pulled, which will give you a feel for why I loathe him.

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Okay. Credit to Milk Bar TV for putting together that montage. We have ones we could go through that would take us all day with young women in tears about what they claim he did to them, about alleged beatings. I mean, videotapes that purport to show that. We haven't been independently able to verify this stuff, so I'm not going to put it on the air. I'm just saying there's a ton.

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One of the things she's doing right now, which I greatly appreciate, is she's dropping all the bullshit Biden DOJ investigations into various police and fire forces across the country for not... lowering their test standards so that more women could get involved or changing the test so that more African Americans qualified than actually passed the test.

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You could swim in an ocean of that stuff around the sky or All day long. And for some reason, his status has somewhat divided conservatives. Like, there's a faction of the right that is celebrating him, and I guess his brother, too. Their return to the United States. There was even a report that...

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Rick Grinnell, who has been getting hostages out of places like Venezuela, was instrumental in orchestrating their return. He's denied it, but it's been admitted that he at least had a conversation, I think, with a Romanian foreign minister about the Tates. Now he's claiming he didn't insist that they be allowed home, but suddenly they got released to come back home.

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So I don't know what the truth is there either. But I'll tell you what I do know, and that is that there is a group called the Tampa Bay Young Republicans, which is a young Republican group down in Tampa Bay that has decided to invite this guy and his brother to come speak to them. This is what they tweeted out. TBYR formally welcomes these two guys to Florida.

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As free speech absolutists, the Tates haven't been formally convicted of any crimes and are welcome to speak to our group. We're old enough to remember when a convicted felon won the presidency. Like every claim against any Republican is bullshit, Emily. And like all we really need to care about is whether you're facing criminal charges as opposed to whether you're a piece of human excrement.

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And they've denied all the charges. I should remind people, but keep going.

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They were getting sued by Biden's DOJ left and right. Today, she's dropping them all. Great. She's doing a great job. But the Epstein file thing was a disaster. They embarrassed themselves and it seems like a totally unnecessary thing. Like they stepped on a rake for no apparent reason.

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about his significant others. And let's face it. I mean, only a sad little man would be talking about how he's going to beat the hell out of a woman. And I punch her in the face. I punch her. All right, tough guy. Okay, right. And no real man would actually behave that way. Nevermind brag about it. That's the thing. So it's like,

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I look at the men I know in the conservative movement, and they're absolutely lovely. Most of them tend to be married. They have long-term marriages. They have families that they love and support. And there's absolutely nothing even questionable about their romantic choices or their love lives. It's not to say nobody's ever made a mistake.

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I'm just saying that this is not representative at all of the new right. And when we talk about what's been done to men and boys on the right— This is not the antidote. Like this actually is toxic masculinity, people. This is what the real version of it.

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And in our, you know, push to say, stop using that absurd term over anybody who just stands up for himself and man, manliness, masculinity, stop using that term. We're right. But then we too need to be able to look at the Andrew Tate's of the world and say, that's what you're looking for right there. And we condemn it too.

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At all. I mean, this guy's so vile. I really hope he doesn't get platformed by any group, never mind a Republican group. Talk about bad for the brand. There is a world of difference between Donald Trump and Andrew Tate. Andrew Tate is what the left thinks Donald Trump is, okay? Try not to lean in, young Republicans. I really hope they reverse their decision. There's been no formal invitation.

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What happened yesterday was a bunch of right-wing influencers were invited to the White House and they were given binders that said like Epstein phase one, like the phase one release. Okay. That was interesting. Um, you know, it was, I'm not going to lie. This was a little awkward because it was very celebratory.

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There's been no acceptance from what I've seen, but they're just proudly waving it around out there like they think this is a virtuous course. Okay, shifting gears. Yesterday, I went down to Washington, D.C. after I taped the show yesterday early in the morning, which is why I was a little shorter than normal because I had to catch a flight.

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So I go down because Ben Smith, formerly of the New York Times, formerly of BuzzFeed, now runs and founded Semaphore, which is trying to be a less partisan news outlet. Like they do more than just politics. And he asked me if I would go down and speak at his kind of conference. And I said, yes, I know him a little bit from the summers. He and I go to the same place on the Jersey Shore at times.

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And so I said, yes. And while I like Ben, I have to say my own experience was Ben doesn't understand what we're doing at all. Not here at the Megyn Kelly show, not with what you do, Emily online. He's still stuck very much still in legacy media.

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And I would submit to the audience that his questions to me showed that it also showed a lack of familiarity with what we do here on this particular show and what. I sound like in anchoring this show. So I put together some of the questions just so you could see what I'm talking about. And you'll get you'll get a feel for his questions here in Sot5.

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By the way, what I said about Elon's partner and the baby would have been nothing. But she decided to go public and then to play the victim. And my point was simply... You went after her. Okay. So perhaps you've gotten a flavor of what Ben Smith thinks of the Megyn Kelly show. It does not appear that he is a daily watcher.

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It appears he's been consuming his information about us from left-wing blogs, which is, I guess, not a surprise. But I personally felt that that was a really grossly unfair characterization in those questions. And those are the questions he asked. I think there were two others that weren't about my particular show. Um, that I just thought it was very slanted against what we do here.

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And the Epstein story is about his alleged molestation and inappropriate behavior with very young girls. So it's just one of those things you got to be careful because you don't want to look like you're celebrating anything having to do with that. But I understand that the celebration was around the fact that finally we might be getting the full story on Epstein.

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And he obviously, I think has an upturned nose when it comes to digital media in general. And I'll give you one other just to kick it off, Emily. And that is, you heard him say there that you spoke for president Trump the night before the election and you were very focused on masculinity.

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Like that's why you were voting for Donald Trump masculinity, which is also totally false and not what I said at that rally. What I said was he's under fire right now for having said he will protect women. And I believe he will protect women.

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And I welcome that both on behalf of myself, my daughter and other people's daughters, because I think he'll close the border and we won't have more Lake and Riley's. And I think he'll close women's sports to men and boys. And we won't have more Peyton McNabs, the girl who got hurt in North Carolina, thanks to the spiked volleyball in her face. That's what I said.

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And I also spoke of the forgotten boys in this country and what's been done to them as we've demonized boys over the past 10 years. It wasn't about fucking masculinity, but that's what a leftist hears when you say that kind of stuff about President Trump. Anyway, your thoughts on it.

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Yeah, exactly. Right. I, it's so funny to me that, you know, here's this man formerly of the times, formerly of Buzzfeed looking at me, you know, the lady anchor, like, wouldn't it be better for you if somebody were able to control you? So you didn't, you didn't get, you know, go off the rails so much. Like, and I, of course I was like, no, I mean just the implication of it.

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Like I'm not responsible for what I say. And I, I wish someone could come into this show and put the bridal on. Poor Steve Krakauer just isn't able to do it. It's so ridiculous. It's ridiculous. That's not how it's ever worked, frankly, between me and my producers. Though at Fox, I understood there were guardrails in terms of how to behave on cable news.

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So here he pivots from that Trump speech I gave the night before the election into this. This is where he takes it. Satu.

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So they got those files, those folders from Pam Bondi. It sat in a meeting, according to them, with Pam Bondi, who gave them the files. Like, here they are. Here's tranche one. And absolutely nothing was in them. It came out later from those influencers, among others, who I think were also disappointed. Absolutely everything in there was already known.

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No, not at all. I mean, our numbers are huge. I know you just had CNN on. In January, last month, on their YouTube feed, they got 155 million views, and we were 147 million. Just me.

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Exactly. Well, I'm just saying that's one show, the Megyn Kelly show, just me and my six producers versus every single show on CNN, every single thing they put on YouTube. I was within six or seven million of them. The month of the election, November, I beat them. I beat all of them. By the way, I beat NBC, I beat CBS, all of them regularly, the Sky News. November, I beat them all, all of them.

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ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, all of them. So I'm not having a trust issue. Right. He's he's suggesting people aren't going to trust you. They're going to think you're in the tank. Like, aren't you a hack now because you spoke for Trump? And again, this is why I say, like, he doesn't watch the show. He doesn't understand what we do.

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Everybody listening to the show right now knows I do criticize Trump and his administration plenty. I mean, just look at our show yesterday where we opened up is before I sat with him talking about how I I did not agree with what they were doing on the press pool. Right.

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Like Trump didn't speak to me for the better part of late 23, early 24, because he was angry about that interview he gave me where I pressed him on some of the lawfare questions. It's not pleasant. It's not pleasant to be on the wrong side of the president. I like him. So I want him to like me. But my job and my integrity is more important to me.

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But all these questions were geared toward you've sold your soul. You've become a hack. You just do things to get patted on the head by the president and YouTube views.

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It's a difference between owning your bias and then proceeding accordingly, trying to do the best you can as a fair commentator and journalist or just pretending it doesn't exist and then leaning into your bias because you want to express it through the news coverage, which you are pretending is fair and objective. Right. It's like this way. I tell you what I'm rooting for.

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Then I try to give you fair coverage, and anything I say that's opinion, you know, is from that perspective. What the mainstream does, so-called, is they don't own any of their bias. They claim they have none, and they just manifest it through their alleged fact reporting, which is just so pernicious. I mean, that's why they're failing. Here was the capper, right?

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So we get to the question about Tucker Carlson. Years ago, Tucker was doxxed. These hateful leftist groups showed up at his home in Washington, D.C., where his wife was alone. One of his children may have been home as well. I can't remember right now. But for sure, Tucker wasn't there and his wife was in there and scared.

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Not a single new thing was printed or offered. And this whole thing had been some sort of a rope-a-dope. I don't think it was designed to make any of the right wing influencers look dumb, but they were not well served by the DOJ yesterday. The DOJ should have been more careful before they did that to some of the most ardent allies to the Trump administration. It was kind of bullshit.

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They were angry and they were chanting and they were getting all in his lawn. He was he had been doxxed and now his wife was threatened. And Ben Smith actually tried to compare my comments the other day about Rachel Maddow's sanctimony to that. Watch this.

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Google Megyn Kelly NBC and tell me whether the journalists don't go after each other personally.

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No. I would never give out her address. That would be a bridge too far, and it doesn't compare to what happened to Tucker in any way, shape, or form. But Rachel Maddow got out there and tried to act like, oh, I'm a woman of the working class. I'm here to represent the poor staffers who could lose their jobs now as a result of Joy Reid biting it. And meanwhile, she's collecting $25 million a year.

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She's got multiple homes worth millions. You know what? Why don't you take a $2 million pay cut and save 10 of those jobs? If you feel that said, you don't even have to pay it out of your bank account. Just tell them, pay me 23 million next year instead of 25. She won't do it. She wants to seem virtuous and sanctimonious.

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But in fact, she's only the latter because she won't actually put any money on the line. And an example of the exorbitant life she leads while she's trying to remind us, oh, I've worked so many jobs. The jobs I've worked puts to the point her hypocrisy. What'd you make of that one, Emily?

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That's right. They don't go after each other if it's another liberal. That's exactly right. But if you're a conservative, you've been fair game for a long time, which again, Ben Smith does not understand. But just as a refresher, my team did put together a few examples of people violating the gentleman's agreement about which we know nothing. And I've been in cable news for 20 years. Here it is.

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I was pissed on their behalf. And then by the end of the day, what you had was Pam Bondi firing off a nasty missive to Kash Patel saying, where are my files? I demanded from the FBI that they all be given to me. They weren't. I've been told by a whistleblower the FBI withheld certain critical Epstein documents. When I spoke to you earlier, you were as surprised by this as I was.

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It's weird how I didn't get the memo on the gentleman's agreement that Ben Smith and his anonymous broadcast source received. Hello, wake up. As they say in that one of my favorite movies, get in the game. These people have been slinging it at us for years. And if they can't take some mild, hey, she's rich and sanctimonious pushback. What I mean, there's what more can we say?

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Well, it's funny because he said, you know, she said, there's this gentleman's agreement. And I laughed and said, why don't you try Googling Megyn Kelly at NBC and say, and he had no interest in following up. And the other thing was, he said, I said, the relationship between me and my audience is authentic and it's tight. We're close and they've got my back.

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In part because if I do make a mistake, I will correct myself. And he said, well, have you, like what? And I said, well, like I was way too believing of the COVID vaccines and the manufacturers that if something went wrong or people had serious side effects that they would do something about it. They would own it and do something about it. And I was dead wrong.

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And I've owned that with my, and he moved on. You couldn't have gotten off of that faster. He was like, oh shit, that's not what I was hoping you were going to say. He was like, I was only hoping you'd say something that would be pleasing to me and not my audience here. Yes.

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Well, I still like Ben Smith, and I believe that if I were to sit with him again, he would do a better job of trying to understand what it is we do here at the MK Show. But as it was, it was kind of fun. Being on the opposite end of adversarial media always is. Emily, great to see you up next. Red Scare.

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So then why did they go through the exercise of doing this? With the influencers, because it looks like the timing on that was she knew before she gave them those binders that she had been strong armed or stiff armed by the FBI.

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GCU meets you where you are and provides a path to help you fulfill your dreams. The pursuit to serve others is yours. Let it flourish. Find your purpose at Grand Canyon University. Private. Christian. Affordable. Visit gcu.edu. It's time for some fun on this Friday. I'm joined now in person by the hosts of the Red Scare podcast. We love it when they swing by the Red studio. Anna Katchian.

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I always screwed it up. Anna, sorry. Katchian. And Dasha Nekrasova. Ladies, welcome back. Thank you. Thanks for having me. It's great to have you.

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And we've got our martinis made by Doug Brunt. So here's to Doug. Cheers, Doug. Love Doug Brunt. Great to have you back. Great to be here. And perhaps appropriate for our Russian vodka. That's nice. Or not, given the circumstances. President Zelensky is sitting in the Oval Office right now, and it's not going well. This is just coming across the wires. We've got a soundbite.

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Apparently what teed this particular exchange you're about to hear off is Zelensky was maintaining that Trump, he's sitting there with Trump and J.D., that Trump cannot trust Vladimir Putin, and things went downhill from there. Watch.

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Oh, joy. The Epstein files were a total bust. And I have a lot to say about my day in Washington, D.C. yesterday in front of all the media head honchos. Joining me later in the studio today, the ladies of Red Scare. But first, Emily Jashinsky, D.C. correspondent for Unheard and host of Undercurrents. These days, personal safety is not something that can be left to chance.

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And so the whole thing wound up being somewhat embarrassing unnecessarily for, I think, the well-meaning right wing influencers that showed up there willing to report on whatever news is given to them. P.S. It was nothing. on Pam, on Kash Patel. And for what? Why? Why did this have to happen?

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OMG. Zelensky said this right before those exchanges. We signed a deal with Putin. He did not keep it. What kind of diplomacy are you talking about? Saying that, you know, President Trump's attempts to solve this diplomatically aren't going to work. And you can see that did not go over well.

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with either of the two men he really could use on his side. Just so the audience knows, you were born in Russia. Yeah, and you're from Belarus.

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Yeah, right. So I mean, you understand this region of the world a bit. What did you see there?

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Yeah. But it just, when I look at that, I'm like, why would you do anything other than be magnanimous? And frankly, like, suck up to president Trump. Who's got the deepest pockets of anybody who's helped him and could help him and is very interested in striking a deal to wrap this thing up.

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Now, whether he likes the terms or not, that that can all be negotiated, but why put him in an angry mood while you're in the oval?

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And there's a new sheriff in town. This is the man right there. That man with the crazy blonde hair needs to like you, needs to believe in you. And we'll play more as we get it. But this is absolutely foolhardy of Zelensky. You get invited to the Oval Office. There's really only one posture you can take. You maintain your dignity, of course.

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Yes, as a foreign leader, you're entitled to do that on behalf of your people. Right. You shouldn't be groveling.

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Of course. And he's saying you're going to get us into World War Three. You want World War Three. Trump's saying that he's not wrong. I mean, Russia has nukes. This is one of the reasons why people over here have been so concerned about the increasing aid we've been giving, the increasing weaponry we've been giving.

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We do not want a nuclear war with Russia at all, especially over Ukraine and whether it's going to join NATO or have this slice of territory, it's or Russians.

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which is what just happened on this minerals deal, where they never have the presidents meet directly before they've had the diplomats meet directly. And the diplomats are supposed to strike the deal, and only when the deal is struck do you then put the leaders together so they can just look like, yay, we're winners. Look what we did.

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So Rubio said that he met with his counterpart in Ukraine and that they reached a deal on the rare mineral earth materials that they were going to start giving us, some portion of them, to pay us back for all of our investment there. And also... to keep us economically invested in the harvesting of those minerals on a go-forward basis, which Trump sees as a security guarantee for Ukraine.

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If we're over there, our economic interests are over there mining these minerals, Putin, his theory is, will be less likely to invade again or do anything to upset Ukraine. So that's where they got. Marco Rubio said it publicly. Zelensky suddenly said there's no deal. Rubio comes out and says, this guy constantly does this. You know, like we did have a deal. Now he's saying no. Then the news came.

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Yes, there is a deal. And Zelensky comes to the Oval. And apparently uses it as an opportunity to tell Trump, once again, he can't trust Putin. I mean, this is just dumb. This is dumb diplomacy on his part. But here's another soundbite we just got. It is Trump telling Zelensky we gave him $350 billion of our money. Watch.

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He's not wrong. No. This did not go well, ladies. No. Listen to this. Here's some reaction. Of course, the New York Times' Peter Baker, who hates Trump with the passion of 10,000 sons, tweets out, never has an American president lectured the leader of an ally in public like this, much less the leader of a country that is fighting off invaders.

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Well, what if a leader attacks the president and doesn't appreciate the amount of money that's been invested by his country, Peter? The New York Times reports Zelensky flashed a thumbs up as reporters were escorted out of the Oval, asking my own team, did they escort reporters out before the meeting was over? Is that what happened? Do we know? All right. That's what we think happened.

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Perhaps they were continuing the meeting in private. Peter's wife, Susan Glasser of The New Yorker, who is. I can't see enough bad things about this person. Tweets out, this is the most shocking behavior by Trump and Vance I've ever seen in the Oval. An ambush. Well, we'll have to go back and watch it from the beginning.

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Tommy Victor, who's a former Obama guy and also a troll, one of the co-hosts of Pod Save America. Mm-hmm. These fucking assholes lecture and condescend to Zelensky and then fluff Putin at every possible opportunity. Absolutely disgraceful. This is going to be talked about for a very long time. We're witnessing a very important moment right now. What do you make?

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Okay. Sorry. Say again. Say again, Steve. Oh, God. What? There's a press conference that's going to start. I don't like my chances on how well that's going to go. I don't know. I'm distressed by this because we were close to getting this thing done. Like nobody else was close to getting it. And it's not going to end in a way that Ukrainians are going to like. That's just the truth.

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What happened was we were looking at forever stalemate and escalating war. Or this, where at least we stop the losses. We come to some sort of an agreement in Ukraine where we're at least there economically, which I agree with Trump would be somewhat of a deterrent to Putin.

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But the other side that wants a better deal is not wrong that it feels like surrender and that Putin's going to get to keep the territory.

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And he doesn't want to lose or he doesn't want to stop the war. No. That's my feeling. Do you guys talk to, you know, people in the Eastern European community? Do you have a feel on how people are taking this whole saga? Yeah.

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Are your parents more pro-Zolensky? Oh, yeah. And you guys are not that pro-Zolensky? No. For the same reasons as we've been discussing.

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But how do you see through it? How did you manage to, like, see that as opposed to, you know, it's like with that influence around you with people you love and trust from the region?

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Putin's not crazy. I don't think he's crazy. He's a rational actor. I've said before, too, and this is controversial, but I actually don't think he's evil either, which I know is also controversial. But I just think if... In Putin's head, this is all very rational that he's got to protect mother Russia.

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He can't have NATO on his borders and he will do what he thinks is necessary to protect his country and its long-term existence. And also the hope of restoring mother Russia to her former glory.

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Now, I guess you could use that same rationale to say, well, Hitler wasn't evil either because he believed he was doing the right thing. But I do think Putin is a rational actor who can be negotiated. And that's kind of what Trump has been saying, which is like this war never should have started. The whole NATO discussion shouldn't have gone on. And frankly, the U.S.

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I would love to go back and we will, you'll see this all weekend and you'll see it here on the show on Monday to the start. Like what, what was the beginning? What set it off? How did things start to unravel and how did it start to go downhill? This is going to dominate. This feels like a very large news event and more on this as we get it.

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Um, as we get more soundbites too, I'll play them for you. All right, let's move on to other more lighthearted there. Let's get some softballs. Actually, you guys were great people to have here, you know, given everything that's happening. It's not like Israel and Hamas, but like you have some connection. Um, all right. So, but it is a Friday.

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We do like to discuss some lighter cultural fair on Fridays if we can. And that brings me to, um, Ashley St. Claire. Now I look, that was one of the other things that I had with Ben Smith when I went to his conference in DC yesterday. Um, He was upset that I quote attacked Ashley St. Clair, that I went after her. That's what he said. And he was acting like I was bullying her in some way.

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Well, I never would have mentioned the name of Ashley Sinclair. She was not on my radar. I I've never attacked Elon's other baby mamas. I don't care if like these women want to strike that deal with Elon. It's none of my business. I good on him if it works for everybody. The difference with this woman is she knew completely what she was walking into.

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And then when the benefit of that bargain came exactly as one could possibly predict it would come, which is no meaningful relationship with him. No Valentine's day together. She got upset, sent out a nasty tweet, claimed a tabloid was doing an in-depth investigation on her, which never broke.

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The only one who ever reported on this was the New York post because she gave them a photo shoot inside the quote, lavish apartment with feet pics and a incorrectly arranged chessboard.

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That's impressive. Yeah, there it is. Yeah, here are the feet, the naked feet, with their floor-to-ceiling windows in an apartment almost certainly funded by him. Yeah.

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That's a true chess player to see that in the photo. Yeah. So what do you make of the fact that now she, you know, she, she wants us to feel sorry for her. That's, that's what I believe. She's sad about her, the consequences of her own life choices. And she definitely doesn't want publicity. Do not believe the pictures of her in the corset in the New York post doesn't want it.

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It's crazy. Right. So now she has sued Elon, that's in the news today, for paternity. Yeah. And accuses him of going dark on her. And Elon tweeted out something to the effect of, I have taken care of every child I've ever fathered and generously. Yeah. if ever there's been a breakdown, it's because the demands have been exorbitant.

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So he didn't name her, but it seemed to be a clear reference to, trust me, I'm going to take care of every child I sire, but I'm not going to be made a fool of and start giving out billions to 26-year-olds who I slept with once in St. Barts, which appears to be What happened here?

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Exactly. That's what that was the problem. So the tweets to which you refer, she had an exchange with another online influencer where she was talking about how she really wanted to have Elon's baby. I need his rocket babies, LOL. He 10,000% saw my moon landing tweet. Then she writes to her friend, look, I'll take one for the team, seduce Elon and get in a rocket to see what's up.

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Then she also said, I need a caption to seduce Elon Musk. Thinking about the dangers of AI, laughing emoji. Elon replied to the thread revealing that because it was the person with whom she was texting posted the private DM exchange on Twitter and made it public. And Elon responded, whoa. Which I don't know what that means because literally, Elon, I have news for you.

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Every woman you're sleeping with is doing it for the same reason. Baby trapping. Like they're thinking they're going to get a private jet out of it. That's probably a problem for most billionaires. Yeah.

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I felt bad for those influencers. I mean, many of whom I know and think a lot of who got, I'm sure, very excited by the call to go meet with the attorney general of the United States. This is not like somebody punked me who I'd never heard of before who claimed he had Epstein documents. It's the sitting attorney general. And they went, they're at the White House. Like, this is a big deal.

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since before he gained sentience yeah i must rather have a child with a regular iq and a father in the picture yeah yeah um i i don't know this person but my strong belief is this wasn't about having a baby with a high iq she wanted to be taken care of for the rest of her life yeah she already had a baby from another man then she hooks up with elon which was clearly her goal okay fine

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Oh, it's fine. I actually know people who are gold diggers and it's like, that's a choice. You know, if you're like a beautiful woman and you have a lot of rich men who want to like, I don't really have a problem with it. To be honest with you, I do have a problem with you then playing the victim and wanting me to feel sorry for you when he's with somebody else on Valentine's day.

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And when you're, you're lavish, New York city apartment isn't quite lavish enough. And I also just feel like, I just do desperately want to remind young women, you don't have to go this way. You can make your own money and still wind up with somebody great. It is a possibility.

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deny that i know you think yeah but you're very we saw your tweet yeah when i started at fox i i think my first job at fox was 115 000 a year trying to remember because we we negotiated like a no no it was yeah they wanted to pay me under 100 and i said i there's no way i'm taking on under 100 with 10 years of law practice under my belt i refuse just on principle so i got it right over 100 cameras like 105 or 110 i can't remember

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My point is, now that's a good salary for sure. But I wasn't rich. And I had to live in Manhattan, right? It was like I had to be at work at five in the morning. First DC and then Manhattan. My point is, yeah, I have money now, but I did not always have money. I really didn't. And my first job in TV only paid 17 grand a year. But if you love what you do, you put in endless hours.

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It's a labor of love. And usually if you're a hard worker, you will do well in the profession of your choice. She was making it. She had a million followers on X. Well, now I wonder. Now you're both making the same face. I do wonder how she got the followers.

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Whatever. To each his own. As you said. I wouldn't have known again who she was had she not. Exactly. Yeah. So anyway, okay. That's enough of Ashley St. Clair. I think we're done with her now. Um, the Oscars are this weekend. Are you guys going to watch that? I guess.

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He's funny. I enjoy him. Um, our viewers may or may not remember that Dasha is a successful actress who started among other things, succession. Yeah. Everybody's favorite. Did you happen to read the profile in New York Magazine on the Murdochs. It hit in the paper version this past weekend. It hit in the online version a week or so earlier. You might find it interesting.

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They went back and found all the actual court filings in this hideous fight that's going on between Lachlan and Rupert on the one side and James and Liz and Prudence Murdoch on the other side. And there was this whole big hearing out in Reno, Nevada on what's going to happen with his trust. And they got all the transcripts

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So you're seeing the actual testimony of the actual Murdoch's and what's happening. You might find it really fascinating having starred in that series. But okay. So I used to watch the Oscars religiously and I look forward to the fashion and just to see who the winners were. And it was a time when there weren't 15 nominees for best actor and best picture. And when you'd seen all the movies. Yeah.

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I think they went there totally in good faith and earnestly and trusted her. and got humiliated by this document dump that was a nothing. Why would you take people who absolutely love you and have been very good to you and embarrass them like this? I don't get it. I'm sure it wasn't intentional, I think it was just incompetence, I guess.

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Now I was looking at the list. I think I've seen one, but I saw conclave. That's all I've seen. I don't even recognize the names of the others. Yeah. And the ceremony itself has changed and they're wokeified and they're annoying. And this Amelia Perez seems to be the favorite to win everything, which is about some very manly tranny. Like I, I don't know.

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Yeah. Amazing. Is there something in these martinis or did that just happen? That's, that's, that was, that's one of the best picture nominees and it's the favorite.

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The lead trans person wins. Is controversial. Uh-huh. Was tweeting out a bunch of stuff that does not make Hollywood happy. No. Okay. Carla Sofia Gascon, who is a man pretending to be a woman. Pfft. has got a bunch of tweets out there that criticize, like, George Floyd. Hold on, let me get it. Yeah, I'm trying to find it.

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Islam is becoming a hotbed of infection for humanity, and that urgently needs to be cured. Then about Selena Gomez, his co-star, she's a rich rat. She's the poor bastard whenever she can and will never stop bothering her ex-boyfriend, Justin Bieber, and his wife. There's more. Attached to a photo of a Muslim family he saw at a restaurant, including a woman in a burqa, tweeted, Islam is marvelous.

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Without any machismo, women are respected. And when they are so respected, they are left with a little squared hole on their faces forever. for their eyes to be visible on their mouths, but only if she behaves. Although they dress this way for their own enjoyment, how deeply disgusting of humanity. And here's the last one. There are more, but last one I'll read here.

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I really think that very few people ever cared about George Floyd to a drug addicted swindler, but his death has served to once again demonstrate that there are people who still consider black people to be monkeys without rights. and consider policemen to be assassins. They're all wrong. And it goes on from there. So what does that do to Amelia Perez's chances?

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I don't, I'm not sure exactly how this went down, but if I were any one of those people, I would be demanding an actual explanation of what was done to me and the real information be given to me ASAP, right? Like now I've stuck my neck out for you. You've humiliated me.

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And they definitely want to suggest there will be an intersex pope on death in the Catholic Church.

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Well, it is funny because some of those are more incendiary, but the vast majority suggests that this person is really a conservative and doesn't go along with these identity politics, which makes the whole transition even more bizarre. But I mean, we've got Caitlyn Jenner, who's not into identity politics either and has done the so-called transition transition.

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So I like I do think he's being treated the same way anyone who had been outed as a conservative would be treated. Yeah. Which is with horror. Yeah. But it's crazy. Yeah. But he's nominated for best actress. I know. Yeah. Just think about the sentence I just said.

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I don't think he's got any advantage. It is kind of funny. Like there have been some of the sports where I'm like, where is there a natural male advantage? Like...

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I better be getting whatever the FBI and or SDNY, Southern District of New York has some of the documents since they were the ones going after Epstein I better be the first one to receive this stuff, right? Instead, yesterday, we just seemed to have the nasty letter from Pam Bondi to Kash Patel, like, gee, everyone's been duped.

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And then we have the advantage over them when it comes to certain other things like how to organize one's life.

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Carol Swain was on the program last week, professor of all the elite universities. But as soon as she started to think more heterodox in a more heterodox way, especially on race, she was kicked out of the squad. Yeah. Doesn't matter. Black woman. They loved her. Nope. Tulsi Gabbard. She was like the next rising star in the Democratic Party. She's like, she's non-white.

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When it comes to her religion and so on and a woman, but she backed Bernie instead of Hillary. she had to be taken out. Then she said a bunch of stuff about the Democrat Party not being fair, that her career was over.

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Good point. A simple Google search might have served them well prior to that nomination. I don't think that this person is going to win the best actress. And that's a good thing for the other reasons. All right. Now, wait more from the Zelensky meeting. Fox just reported that the Zelensky Trump campaign. Presser is now canceled. Oh, wow. What a shock. A statement from President Donald J. Trump.

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Quote, we had a very meaningful meeting in the White House today. Much was learned that could never be understood without conversation under such fire and pressure. It's amazing what comes out through emotion. And I have determined that President Zelensky is not ready for peace if America is involved. Oh, God. Because he feels our involvement gives him a big advantage in negotiations.

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I don't want advantage. I want peace. He disrespected the United States of America in its cherished Oval Office. He can come back when he is ready for peace. Oh, my God. Damn. This did not go well.

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But again, the timeline appears to be she knew that before she gave out these documents. Then on top of it, they gave all the right-wing influencers talking points that sort of explain what happened and how great this whole sequence of events was. And I guess they didn't tell them this. This is just guidance for you.

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Yeah. Well, that's in the news now too, which is first a word on that Zelensky thing. He will come back. I predict he will come back to the Oval Office and he will come back on bended knee because there's no resolving that war without us. You think he's going to grovel? Yes, he will come back and he will grovel. There is no resolving that war without us.

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We're paying for it. If we just pull all of our support, it's over. Russia will take Ukraine. Yeah. Europe can't do it without us.

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Does he want, is he's trying to foster a closeness between Putin and Trump even more so? Like, as soon as we pull our support, it's over for him. He can't go in there and play tough guy, Zelensky. And of course, we can't pull our support.

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Well, we'll see. I mean, Trump, he's a very good negotiator. And this feels like negotiating. This is what you do. Yeah. When the other side's totally unreasonable. I mean, we learned this in law school. And they don't have any leverage. Right. And when the other person's just being a douche. Yeah. You get up and walk out. You don't even have to negotiate against that. It's just, okay, bye.

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And you know they'll call you because they need you more than you need them. I don't know whether Zelensky was a douche. I'm just saying, if one believes one's negotiating partner is... And he certainly did not sound like he was in the right emotional posture for somebody in his position without the cards. Okay, wait. Where were we just going to go? To Monica Lewinsky, of all people.

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And a couple of them tweeted out the exact same message afterward that reads as follows. Today, I met with President Trump. Yes, it's not just Bondi. It's Trump. President Trump, Vice President J.D. Vance, A.G. Pambondi and FBI Director Kash Patel in the Oval Office. They handed me a binder copy of the Epstein files, the most transparent administration in American history.

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this just in. Zelensky just left the White House. Kind of a good observation by Sagar and Jetty, who writes, keep in mind, Zelensky has probably been talking this way to Biden for years.

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Before we get on to substantive news about Monica Lewinsky. So we're like at the bottom one-fourth, I'd say, of our Doug Brunt made martinis, which are absolutely delicious. He's a good mixologist, no? He really is. He's amazing, yeah.

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This is what he does on his podcast called Dedicated with Doug Brunt, where he talks to authors about their books. And what he does is he gets your favorite drink, and then he makes that for you during the show, and then he and the guests drink it and talk about their book.

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he put it on youtube as well now yeah so he's got a youtube version but he does it once a week um we've actually gotten a lot of fun drinks out of that like ones we never knew about i this is more popular than i knew but i never knew about the french 75 it's i don't know if it's half and half but it's gin and champagne or prosecco and like black Or it's some kind of syrup. I know.

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I might have forgotten. Oh, and lemon. Lemon. Well done, though. Look at you. That's a Cure Royale. Okay. I used to make that when I was a waitress. That's just the kind of thing you want to order.

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It makes it sound cooler. Yeah. Here's what happened after the last time you guys were here. I only drink this when you come. And it didn't go well when I had to read the ads after the show. Here it is. I've never done the ads after a martini. Maybe I have, and I just don't remember, but I'll do my best. Every day, the rhetoric gets more and more divisive.

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It was sheets, but like a durable weave. That's funny. That's funny even without a martini. And then ultimately my husband Doug had to step in because he and I drank an eggnog in Christmas. And when I tried to do it, same thing happened. He had to step in and read the last ad for me. So you're not a big drinker.

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The best part, this is just the start. AG Bondi confirmed there are thousands more Epstein file documents being secretly held in the SDNY, and they will be delivered to the DOJ in D.C. by February 28th, which is today. People will be going to jail for what they've done. So she gave them this guidance.

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I mean, I kind of, I guess I'm not, I thought I could hold my liquor, but I don't usually have something like this quite this strong during the day. Yeah. Right.

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But you're, you know, I was just saying this to, um, I think it was my hairstylist today who I love, um, I was like, this is what I love about these two. Because you both are so interesting. You have that flat affect. You've got this great sense of style. You obviously love each other. Like, I love your friendship. But you say things that are totally unexpected.

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There are too many people who say stuff that you've heard everywhere else. Right. And so, well, like, you don't deliver it with all sorts of... right? The flare physically or emotionally, the, the substantive points are always interesting and they're unexpected. Yeah. Yeah. That's what's special about you.

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So I'm going to, I would like you on you to unleash, unleash your specialness on Monica Lewinsky, who went on the sex podcast, call her daddy. And I mean, I will give credit to the sex podcast, or this is more your realm. This is better. You should stick to this instead of the Kamala Harris. You did better here. Um, And here is, okay, here's, she asked her a good question.

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What is the name of the sex podcaster? Alex Cooper. Thank you. Thank you. Forgive me. She asked Monica a question that I don't think she's gotten asked before. And that's saying something about the Clinton scandal, which was what would you have liked him to do when the whole scandal broke? That is a good question. That is it, right? So I think we have that queued up. Let's watch it. Saw 39.

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I'm not sure what was going on. Right. Did it cost $100,000? It didn't look like the Commonwealth. Why didn't the budget go into her pants? I have a real issue with those black and white, black and red checkered trousers. It's an issue. I don't hate them.

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to like tweet out, oh, this is just the first tranche, but more is coming, which was an attempt, a nod at her knowledge that she didn't have anything in there that was new, but that wasn't transparent, right? That wasn't actually made clear. And then these guys are tweeting out the exact same tweet, right? And the way that's avoided is you say, this is guidance. This is like a suggested tweet.

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I think we all look better than we looked in the 90s. True. True. I mean, you know, I have to say, she does too. It's fine. There's zero chance a president would ever resign, you know, in the wake of a scandal. But I am of two minds. Like, I'm really torn about Monica Lewinsky because... Clinton is a douchebag in many ways. That's clear. Yeah.

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He definitely metooed her, you know, with the power imbalance and all that. Sure. She really took a beating in the public eye, a severe beating in the public eye, and she was very young. But on the other hand, she made the choices she made. When you're 22, you have knowledge about the risks. She was young. She wasn't, you know. Yeah. So how do you see it?

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I really feel like she needs to move on. Definitely. That's sad. I'm sick and tired of hearing about this. If you're going to launch a podcast, go for it. But it's like, this is her only thing. What has she done since then other than she writes for Vanity Fair? Great. Okay, that's fine.

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But then you should be talking about the columns that you write and whatever your accomplishments have been since 1995 or whatever it was. When I sat in the Barnes & Noble office of the world trade center and read the Ken star report as a young aspiring lawyer, or I just started practicing law.

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I can't remember which, but I must've just graduated from law school because I was in law school, whatever. It doesn't matter. The point is, um, that's how long it's been. And she's still out there talking about her blow jobs with Bill Clinton. It's too much.

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Yes. It's like she at this point, she should be saying, I've said all there is to say on that subject. Like, we're good. Let's let's talk about something else, because I'm sure that interview did talk about her new show and whatever. No one cares.

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The only reason they care about her is because of that scandal, which is why I probably if I were Monica Lewinsky would have chosen a life in the private sector. Just doing some good.

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Obviously, I wouldn't send out this exact thing. We're giving this to everybody. These are kind of the points. It'd be great if you could hit. Now, if you're a journalist, you don't take that at all. You say, thank you for your tweet. Goodbye. But these aren't... I don't think they would call themselves exactly journalists in the traditional sense, which is one of the things we love about them.

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But I just feel like if you wanted to embarrass these, you know, 10 people, this is exactly how you would have run this whole thing.

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I mean, everybody's still interested in Epstein, I think. I heard some people being like, who cares? No, I care. I actually really would like to see what's in the files if... Look, I'm not expecting it to be like, appointment Bill Clinton to see 13-year-old on Epstein Island, you know, June 2006. That's not going to be in there. That's just a joke. But... There could be a client list.

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Right now it's just his contact list, which we've already seen. And by the way, being in Jeffrey Epstein's contact book does not mean anything. It really doesn't mean anything. Like I have tons of people in my phone's contacts with whom I actually have almost nothing to do, whatever. They like contact you one time, you exchange info. It doesn't mean anything.

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what we need is more like who actually was a frequent, uh, repeat visitor on Epstein Island, right? That would be good to know. We, we have some names. Um, but what's being promised is like, there's more and it's juicy. And that's why it's been withheld by these people. And maybe something about his death. Like people have genuine natural questions about that. Do you think we'll get any answers?

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I mean, it's it's I think it was Elon who tweeted out today like things don't change on a dime. And I think he was suggesting Pam Bondi's there. Cash Patel's there. But the whole staff hasn't changed at DOJ or FBI and certainly not at SDNY. And so I think he was telegraphing like give him a minute. to try to get the troops in line. I agree with all of that, yes, but then don't overpromise.

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Don't make a big show of things. Don't embarrass your most loyal supporters by pretending you're giving them some big scoop only to have the internet say there's absolutely nothing here at all that's new. Like all of this is just, like I say, it's like the procedure around it was so poorly done.

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And then on top of everything we just discussed, for some reason, the House Judiciary Committee, which I gather is run by Jim Jordan- tweeted out like a joke about it. Um, people expected like the tease was suggested that they look, it reads a breaking it's at judiciary GOP Epstein files released and you click on this link and it shows you the, well, here's what it shows you.

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It's Rick Astley, which is referred to as being Rick Wold, which is like a punk. So they wound up having to delete that tweet because so many Republicans and conservatives did not find it funny and were just generally pissed off about how the afternoon went yesterday.

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Here's the other thing that bothered me about it. There were people there like Chaya from Libs of TikTok. Even Jack Posobiak, with whom I have a very checkered past, like we haven't gotten along well. But I have to say, I've grown to really like him. And his Twitter feed is fire. And he actually has had a lot of scoops. He was one of them. Chad Pranther, he's a good guy down in Texas, a podcaster.

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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky set to visit the White House today to formalize a mineral mining agreement with the U.S. President Trump touting the agreement as very big, though Mr. Zelensky appears to see it as a starting line rather than a finishing line. At a news conference in Kiev on Wednesday, Mr. Zelensky said his country sees U.S. security guarantees as vital.

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The current agreement has no such commitments, however. CNN reporting President Zelensky is planning to have further discussions with Mr. Trump. on that point later today. Mr. Trump believes a strong economic alliance with Ukraine will be more than enough of a security guarantee. The president spoke on this with British Prime Minister Keir Starmer from the White House yesterday.

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U.K. Prime Minister Keir Starmer visits the White House ahead of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky's arrival later today. The U.K. leader praising the Trump administration for bringing the option for peace to the table in the war on Ukraine. The first round of the Epstein files are released. What they say and what they don't.

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President Trump has warned European allies that the U.S. will not defend countries who are not interested in defending themselves. Though initially shocking to European leaders, his demand has led to increased cooperation in planning for Ukraine's post-war defense. While many on the left criticized Mr. Trump for his harsh words toward U.S.

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allies, Prime Minister Starmer signaling the U.S.-UK relationship is as strong as ever.

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Prime Minister Starmer added to Mr. Trump's comments on the Ukraine deal.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Friday, February 28th, 2025. And this is your AM Update.

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Despite Mr. Trump's earlier assertion that President Vladimir Putin is open to European troops in Ukraine, the Kremlin says it is unacceptable. The U.S. and Russia are currently working toward a summit between the two leaders. At a press conference yesterday afternoon, Mr. Starmer praised President Trump for his efforts toward restoring peace in Ukraine.

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Attorney General Pam Bondi releasing the first round of the Epstein files and they showed no smoking gun. In fact, there was no gun at all. A group of journalists and right-wing commentators were spotted leaving the White House yesterday afternoon carrying thick binders, the cover reading Epstein files phase one.

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Turning Point USA contributor Savannah Hernandez posting to X a video after receiving a copy.

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The binders were prepared from the roughly 200 pages of documents sent by the FBI to the attorney general. A.G. Bondi telling FBI Director Kash Patel in a letter later, a source informed her there are thousands more pages relating to Jeffrey Epstein in the FBI field office in New York. Ms. Bondi issuing a new deadline of 8 a.m.

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Friday this morning for the FBI to deliver the full and complete Epstein files to her office. She is also ordering an immediate investigation into why her earlier directives were not complied with. The DOJ published the contents of the binders to its website last night. Coming up, Andrew and Tristan Tate return to the U.S. with less than a warm welcome.

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Controversial online influencers Andrew and Tristan Tate return to Florida to a less-than-warm welcome from the governor. And the Maine state legislature censures one of their own for posting a picture of a minor to Facebook with a political message. But there's a lot more to the story. And a legendary actor found dead under what appear to be mysterious circumstances. We'll have a full report.

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after Romania lifts a travel ban. Romanian officials arrested the brothers in December 2022 on charges of rape and sex trafficking. Investigators accused the brothers, who have millions of followers online, of recruiting women through the lover boy method, misrepresenting their intention, toward a romantic relationship and then forcing women to make pornographic content.

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They identified seven alleged victims. They were held in pretrial detention until March of 2023. then released to house arrest, which was lifted in August 2023. In December, Romanian courts ruled the case against the brothers could not proceed to trial, the judge citing procedural irregularities from prosecutors, though there are still other investigations involving similar activities underway.

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The Romanian government lifted the travel ban on the brothers under the condition that they return to that country for legal proceedings related to these ongoing investigations, The next appearance is set for March. Meantime, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis commented on their arrival in his state yesterday.

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The brothers are frankly disgusting. They're self-described misogynists. Andrew Tate is often referred to as the king of toxic masculinity, a moniker he endorses. Here's a small sample of his online musings. I perfected this in pimp school.

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It's bang out the machete, boom in her face, and then grip her up by the neck. Upon arrival in Florida, Andrew Tate made comments to reporters.

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It's unclear what, if any, involvement the White House had in the Tate's arrival back in Florida. Special envoy to the president, Rick Grinnell, who secured the release of six hostages from Venezuela. denying to the Financial Times any involvement in returning the Tates to the United States, contradicting an earlier report about him.

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The Washington Post reports the Romanian Foreign Ministry denies any U.S. government intervention. Asked about this yesterday in the Oval Office, President Trump appeared to be unaware of these developments.

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Prime Minister Starmer's interest in the brothers relates to charges they are facing in the U.K., The brothers are facing extradition charges to the UK when their legal proceedings in Romania wrap up. British officials are investigating allegations of rape and human trafficking against them.

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In December, a British court ruled that the police could seize more than $3.3 million from Andrew Tate to cover years of unpaid taxes. New developments in the fight to protect women and girls' sports in the state of Maine. The state legislature censuring Republican Representative Laurel Libby for calling attention to a male student who just won a girls' state pole vaulting competition. Ms.

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Libby posted a picture of the athlete atop the podium next to the two female athletes he bested easily in the competition. The pictures accompanied by the caption, another day, another instance of an unremarkable biological male athlete who couldn't win against other males dominating girls' sports. On Tuesday, the Maine legislature voted 75 to 70 to censure Ms.

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Libby, calling her actions, posting a minor's photo with a political statement, reprehensible and possibly endangering the student. Following the session, Ms. Libby took to Facebook Live.

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Ms. Libby will not be allowed to vote or speak on the floor until she apologizes, something she says she will not do. Polls show the vast majority of Americans, Democrats and Republicans, are in favor of banning males from female sports. Following the session, a reporter from The Maine Wire asked members of the state legislature where they stand on this issue.

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Last Saturday, President Trump confronted Maine Governor Janet Mills for her state's refusal to comply with the updated terms of Title IX, which make clear that statute bars biological males from competing in female sports. Maine receives $250 million in education funding from the feds. Failure to comply with Title IX will result in a loss of that funding. A sad story turned mystery.

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Legendary actor Gene Hackman, his wife and one of their three dogs found dead in their Santa Fe, New Mexico home. Authorities were notified by a maintenance worker who discovered the bodies. It appears that they had been deceased for some time.

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The affidavit seeking the search warrant for the home calls the circumstances of the deaths suspicious enough to require a thorough search and investigation. What does that mean? The AP reporting Hackman, 95, was located in a mudroom inside the house while his wife, 63-year-old Betsy Arakawa, was found dead in a bathroom near an open prescription bottle with scattered pills.

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The dog, a German Shepherd, was located in a closet. Meanwhile, two other dogs were found on the property, one inside the house and one outside, and they were apparently alive and well. A spokeswoman for the sheriff's office says there's no indication either Gene Hackman or his wife had been shot or had any wounds.

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The New York Times reporting, quote, there were no obvious signs of a gas leak in the home. Obviously, many people wondered about carbon monoxide, including Gene Hackman's daughter, who mused on that publicly. Investigators will conduct autopsies and continue searching the premises.

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Mr. Hackman, of course, was nominated five times for an Academy Award known for his roles in Bonnie and Clyde, The French Connection, Mississippi Burning, Unforgiven, not to mention my own favorite, Hoosiers. That'll do it for your AM Update. I'm Megyn Kelly.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. It's Friday and we have a great mix of political news and Hollywood gossip. Some of it involving yours truly. We also wanted to let you know that we are soon going to be dropping an exclusive interview with Colin Carroll.

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Had I known we might've crossed paths, I might've reconsidered it, but it's probably best for all that we did not. I mean, the last thing I want to be honest with you is for her to like come over and give me a hug. And then I'd feel bad about being honest about how ridiculous she is. So I think I might've dodged a bullet there.

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On the subject of Blake Lively, before we leave the Time 100, she was there and I did manage to get my selfie, which you heard me reference there, with Doug and yours truly in the foreground. And she's in the back. You can see her right there. She's right behind me. And you can see the side view. She's having a chat with somebody. She's an absolutely beautiful woman. She was with Ryan Reynolds.

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Can I tell you, I looked around last night. There was not one other conservative in the room. Not one. Not one. You'd find like the occasional civilian who'd come over and be like, hey, I'm one of, you know, your kind. But like not as soon. Now, they did name some like J.D. Vance was named and some other people who, you know, were named as Joe Rogan.

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He was there. He was very nice to everybody around him. But the truth is, And I've said many times, I don't think what she's doing to Justin Baldoni is in any way fair, gracious, nice, or just.

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And so I couldn't help looking at her the whole night like some sort of twisted mean girl, like there's something wrong with this person because all the allegations that she's launched against him have fallen apart, virtually every single one of them. Now, there's still going to be a trial. She'll have her day in court and all that, supposedly. But to me, there's something wrong with her to...

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you know, say the things she said when it's all being disproved, like on camera, where there's actual evidence. So she had the opportunity to go up before the audience and give a speech. You know, they pick one or two. Like I mentioned, Simone Biles was one, Blake Lively's another. She decided to make the whole thing about her mother's rape. Here's a bit.

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Okay, Mark. Now, why she would make her whole speech about her mother's trauma from more than 45 years ago, I don't know. But that was the darkest view of womanhood in America that I think I've ever heard from a public figure at an awards ceremony like this. She goes on, you heard it there.

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I mean, he's not conservative, but, you know, he voted for Trump. Anyway, they weren't there. But I mean, of the 100, I'd say about six or seven leaned right. Um, it's just the way it is. It's the way it is. Media is the way it is in New York. And so it's just, you know, the things are awkward. Plus let's face it. What do we do on this show?

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We don't let our daughters know, but one day we break their hearts by letting them in on the secret that we've kept from them as they pranced around in princess dresses that they are not and will likely never be safe. Not at work, not at home, not in a parking lot, in a medical office, not online, not in any space they inhabit, not physically, not emotionally, not professionally. Thank you.

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To me, it was evidence of how desperate she is to improve her standing in the public eye as a result of this battle she started with Justin Baldoni. She's really taken a serious hit. You know, she thought she was going to file this Me Too claim against him and sort of, you know, with the human rights group and get the New York Times to write about it.

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And she was going to be elevated as a Me Too heroine. And instead, he lawyered up and he got a great one, happens to be my own lawyer too, Brian Friedman, and started fighting her back on each and every claim. And as I've said, they started to fall apart. I mean, we've covered it extensively on this show. And so the public opinion of Blake Lively has gone down precipitously.

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She has a whole legion of people who no longer like her. at all. And my own belief is she used her mother's rape to try to improve her standing with a certain section of the populace. Like, feel sorry for my mom, feel sorry for me, because I understand trauma. And the wink and a nod piece of it was, I too am a victim. And, you know, like the torch has been passed.

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And just like every woman and little girl who I and my children and all of yours to the females have to live in fear that they will never be safe anywhere. Thanks a lot for coming. I'm Blake Lively. I mean, it was just I thought such an obvious manipulation of her image. She used her mother and the mother's supposed trauma. I have no idea what happened to the mother.

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But criticize the media left and right and up and down all day, every day. And half of them were there. So that's awkward. It's awkward. Um, all right, we're going to get into all the stories in just a minute. Uh, and along for this ride with me today is Mark Halperin. Mark is editor in chief and host of two way on YouTube.

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You know, the last bit of it reminded me of, we did a segment a couple of weeks ago, a month ago on Bill Weir, who's at CNN as their like climate reporter now. And he admitted that both in 2020, when his kid was born, and then again in 2024 on Earth Day, he wrote a letter to his son. And it was like, I'm very sad that the water that you drink will be

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covered in toxins, that the ice cream you try to eat will melt in a world that's too warm and dying. It was the darkest stuff, Mark. And that's like, I can speak to this. I'm a mother of two boys and a daughter. And in no world am I privately sitting here waiting in fear as I watch my daughter prance around in princess dresses. When am I going to have to tell her she'll never be safe?

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There's no place, not online, not at work, not at home. That's just... It's a leftist thing, this catastrophizing, that we're in this extremely dark world and there's danger around every corner, mostly at the fault of conservatives. And to me, it almost like was a window on perhaps why she went the way she went with these allegations against Justin Baldoni. Maybe.

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Maybe she actually did perceive these massive slights at every corner. If this is how she views life, that everything is dangerous and with lurking people wanting to hurt us, there's like a psychosis. But it is, in my experience, limited to the left. The right has its conspiracy theories that they love, but the left has this weird, dark worldview about...

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I'll say this. I saw Ed Sheeran again. I interviewed him at NBC, and he was completely charming then and once again completely charming last night. Gayle King was there, and she was working the tables that had celebrities at them the way a bride works her wedding. I mean, she did not skip somebody who was famous. It was ridiculous.

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Yeah, I mean, but most of us leave the celebrities alone. I have to say, it's like, there's something a little pathetic about running after them, like as a supplicant, like, please, please talk to me. Obviously she did not feel that way. We had the other musical entertainment. He was great. My gosh, now I'm going to forget his name. Miles Smith. He was amazing.

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And I would definitely go see him in concert. I think he's having one this Monday night. And last but not least at all, I met Demi Moore, who was stunning. And we posed for a photograph together. Here we are. And could not have been nicer. She was completely friendly to everybody there. I have to say to her credit, because she's an A-list star for sure.

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And, you know, some of these people won't deign to speak to anyone other than their little cosseted, collected table. But she was very friendly with everyone there. So that's my... Armchair assessment of the Time 100. Again, my thanks to Time. I don't mean to sound like an ingrate. I just have to be honest about my feelings.

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Yeah. Yeah, me too. Doug and I had fun. And we met some nice people. We loved our table in particular. Okay. Speaking, though, of this kind of navel-gazing, self-celebratory event, the Nerd Prom is tomorrow night in Washington, D.C., the White House Correspondents' Dinner, Mark. And I'm sure we've both been to many of these things. They're a complete bore. They're just absolutely painful.

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But there's a time in Washington when you have to do it in your career. And it's amazing to me that they're still going. This year, President Trump will not be there. He doesn't have a good relationship with the media. So there's even less reason to go. And you tell me whether these things have long passed their expiration date.

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Here's one of the funniest and most telling takes that I just read before we came to air on Nerd Prom. It's by this guy who writes for Mediaite named Colby Hall, who has his headline is this year's White House Correspondents Dinner serves only to normalize Trump's First Amendment dumpster fire. I won't be a part of it. Good for you, Colby. Good for you. He's so self-congratulatory again.

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And he says as follows, President Trump's constant attacks on the media, which is in his first term, ranged from petty insults to ominous but contained action against the press, have escalated into a war that mirrors authoritarian states and far-flung regions of the world. That's why I'm opting to skip this year's weekend.

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And he goes on to quote certain upset journalists who don't want any part of this. They have, okay, let's see. What is there to celebrate? One prominent editor of an influential outlet said the first Trump term was weird enough because the white house didn't engage, but his staffers like Sean Spicer and Kellyanne Conway still really gave a shit.

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Now it's like the current tripe white house truly not performatively hates and is attacking the press.

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Then you've got him quoting another person saying, with Disney bending the knee to Trump, Paramount contemplating doing the same to settle the president's insane lawsuit against 60 Minutes, the White House bringing in all these ridiculously sycophantic alt media figures, Marjorie Taylor Greene's boyfriend et al.

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It's an unsettling time to be in news media and an odd time to be celebrating anything. finally said a longtime cable news anchor to Colby Hall. To me, this represents everything that's wrong with both Washington and the White House press corps, which is in the midst of a crisis of relevancy, public trust, and confidence. Having a big black tie soiree does not read right to Americans.

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That's the only point I will cede of those three. So the press is outraged that anybody would go to celebrate the white, like it's not a celebration of Trump, but in the era of Trump, they're not even allowed to go to this because they hate Trump.

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Mm hmm. I mean, and Trump, to his credit, like he just announced yesterday on Truth Social that he was sitting down last night with Jeffrey Goldberg of The Atlantic. Yeah. And he says, like, this is the guy, he hates me. He reported what Trump says is a lie about Trump referring to our dead soldiers as suckers and losers.

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He reported the Signalgate controversy, which has been, you know, a big story in Trump's first 100 days. And yet he still sat down with him. You know, it's like, look, he and I were on the outs for nine months. He still sat down with me. He didn't actually even like the interview. But then, you know, he, to his credit, He will give you second and third and fourth chances in the press.

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They just hate him. They hate his politics, Mark. It's not about what he says about the press.

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I should say this. The headline in HuffPost this morning is HuffPost is bringing workers fired by Trump to the White House Correspondents Dinner to highlight the Trump administration's scorched earth attack on vital government functions and its workers. HuffPost is bringing guests who have experienced the fallout firsthand.

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Some guy who is a federal watchdog in charge of protecting whistleblowers who Trump fired. Rohit Chopra, who headed the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau until Trump fired him. Andrew Bivens, a USAID employee. I mean, OK.

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Right. Like take a take a stand, take a position, HuffPo. That's great. Just own it. In any event, it will go forward. And I'm sure we'll enjoy the pictures and stories that come out of it and cover it right here. OK, before we move on totally from White House correspondents dinners, they haven't always been totally inconsequential.

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And while they'll sit there this year lamenting the fact that President Trump is in the Oval Office, It's arguably because of their little event that he ran in the first place. You could make a pretty decent case that had they not had this annual event every year, Donald Trump would still be a private citizen hosting Celebrity Apprentice and running his business. And do you care to explain why?

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We take you back now to 2011, the White House Correspondents' Dinner, and Seth Meyers was that so-called comedian.

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I mean, utter contempt for him there. And who could blame him for being genuinely pissed off?

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So you were not only right about that in that moment, you've been right about a lot, but there was another moment regarding Donald Trump that you are famously able to cite in which you were predicting that he might actually win the 2016 presidential election, which did not go over well on the set at MSNBC. We've got that queued up for the audience to watch.

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Oh, that's so delicious. That is, you got written up by the hateful media matters for, for, you know, the nerve to predict something like that. And the smug Nicole Wallace, like you're an idiot. There's no way he's winning and you had it.

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Mm-hmm. I'm sure they came back and apologized to you and thanked you for your insight after Trump won.

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Mm hmm. Yeah. Trust me, they're not big over at NBC on apologies, even when they're clearly owed. OK, later today, I mentioned it at the top of the hour. I'm going to sit down with Colin Carroll, who is one of the guys fired at the Pentagon. one of the three pushed out. And then there's also this comms guy who says he resigned voluntarily, but the Pentagon saying they forced him out.

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And he's going to tell us his story about why he's going to say, I believe he's not the leaker and that this is not being handled well, nor fairly. And I wonder if you can give us your perspective, Mark, on what's happening at the Pentagon. Cause we, we have been covering, you know, all the palace intrigue, but this is like every day there, there's a new barrage of bad press.

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He is one of those Pentagon officials fired last week reportedly over a leaks investigation. But was it actually something else? He will tell his story in full right now. right here, and we will drop it for you just a bit later. He hasn't spoken out yet publicly, so this will be the first you'll hear from him, and I think you're going to find his testimonial very compelling.

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I know. We wrestled with this the other day. There's no clear motive. If you look at the leaks that have come out, it's not easy to understand what the ideological objective would be.

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I will probe every angle and the audience will be able to make up its own mind about my guest. Do you think Pete Hegseth will survive this and will he survive as defense secretary? Because it's very clear some group of people that's pretty loud is out to get him.

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The board of directors will not bend the knee to Tom Cotton. They don't like him.

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It's a very funny way of looking at it. And you're not wrong. I agree with your assessment. This may sound weird, but I would also move J.D. Vance over there because typically vice presidents are powerless, but he's not. He's on that board.

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Hold that thought. I want to hear more on that, but I have to squeeze in this break. So we pick it up on the opposite side of this on why J.D. Vance is the most powerful vice president in history. Mark is here today. He is promoting his new show, Next Up, with Mark Halperin. It's a brand new podcast. It starts on Tuesday. Go subscribe on YouTube and subscribe on all podcast platforms.

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Before the break, we left the audience with the thought of why Mark Halperin believes J.D. Vance is turning out to be the most consequential VP in history. Why?

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Yeah, Trump's confident enough in his own power that he doesn't need to feel threatened by J.D. For those just joining us, the so-called board of directors in Mark's view is Charlie Kirk, Tucker Carlson and Don Jr., who have a text thread, says Mark, where they weigh in on very substantial matters and advise the president accordingly. And that rings very true to me. Okay, so that's J.D.

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There's a bit of breaking news that I just wanted to bring up, Mark, and it kind of dovetails on what's happening with the Trump agenda, which we'll talk more about.

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As you know, in Trump 2.0, one of the main resistance efforts is the lawfare and trying to shut down all those executive orders, especially when it comes to illegal immigration and these deportations, the various tools that Trump is using to do them. So an extraordinary event in Wisconsin where

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where there was a hearing underway involving a guy, an illegal immigrant named Eduardo Flores Ruiz, 30 years old, from Mexico, who was charged with battery for allegedly punching someone 30 times in the face after they complained about his loud music. Go back home to Mexico. Okay, that's me. That wasn't the judge.

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Anyway, he was facing misdemeanor battery charges in Wisconsin and was there in court on a hearing. ICE agents arrived in that courtroom. It belonged to Judge Hannah Dugan, D-U-G-A-N, of the Milwaukee County Circuit. She's a Democrat. And they arrived during a pretrial hearing for this guy.

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She asked them to leave and to speak to the circuit court's chief judge, according to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. By the time they returned from doing that, the defendant had left. And according, again, to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, Judge Dugan was believed to have been hiding the migrant and his attorney in a jury deliberation room.

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Some sources told the outlet that, in fact, what happened was she took him and his lawyer to a side door in the courtroom and directed them to a private hallway into the public area where he fled. He fled.

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So what just happened yesterday was the judge was arrested by announced by Kash Patel and the FBI, where he wrote just now the FBI arrested Judge Hannah Dugan out of Milwaukee on charges of obstruction. She obstructed an immigration arrest operation last week. We believe Judge Dugan intentionally misdirected federal agents away from the subject to be arrested in her courthouse.

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Eduardo Flores Ruiz, allowing him, an illegal alien, to evade arrest. He says, thankfully, our agents chased down the perp on foot and he's been in custody since, but the judge's obstruction created increased danger to the public. We'll have more to share there soon. And sure enough, you look up this woman's bio and it's... She used to be a poverty attorney. She's a Dem.

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She was executive director of Catholic Charities for the Archdiocese of Milwaukee. I'm sorry, I'm a Catholic, but this doesn't come as any surprise that she, as in this role, would be extremely sympathetic to illegals in her courtroom. Her attorney has said that... she wholeheartedly regrets and protests her arrest. Not sure what that means.

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It was not made in the interest of public safety and we want the court to release her. She was released from custody awaiting further proceedings. But wow, I mean, that's hardball.

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Mm hmm. They're openly making the argument on Team Trump now about, you know, we're not really going to be able to provide all these illegals due process. It's just it's not realistic. Trump was saying it's going to take 200 years if you have many trials for each one of these people. And so it's a new argument. It's totally fair in my view.

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It's like, did did Lagan Riley get due process before illegals killed her, you know, an illegal trial? It's not practicable. If we have reason to believe that you are not a U.S. citizen, and in all these cases, they've got the goods on these guys. Maybe not so much on extra crimes they've committed, but they know. They know who's here illegally. Those are the ones they're starting with.

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There's not a doubt that they don't belong here. That's all you need. You're out. Goodbye. There doesn't need to be some three week hearing or, you know, right to counsel on the ACLU filing class actions to stop it all, Mark. I mean, that's it's sort of forcing Trump's hand on, you know, what due process really isn't that important to me when it comes to these illegals and getting them out.

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These judges are truly out of control. I mean, the fact that that Judge Boasberg in D.C. actually tried to have a contempt hearing and hold the Trump administration in contempt after the Supreme Court had said he didn't have jurisdiction, that the case was improperly filed before him. But he was so desperate to punish Team Trump. He went ahead with the hearing anyway.

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He said, you're likely in criminal contempt. If you won't prosecute the case, I will appoint a special prosecutor to go after those who disobeyed my order. I mean, that's just one example. Then now you got a judge actually releasing the illegal as ICE is there to arrest him as if it's any of her business. What happens between this guy and ICE? I mean, openly subverting the president on it.

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And it reminds me of something I wanted to get to in our Pentagon discussion, but forgot. James O'Keefe, you know, formerly of Project Veritas, and now he runs this OMG Network.

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He did one of his undercover videos on somebody named Nicholas Terza, who is a Department of Defense branch chief, and got this guy on camera, as James does, on how he is determined to undermine Trump and his agenda within the Department of Defense. Here it is.

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everywhere. They're on the federal bench. They're on the bench in Wisconsin. They're, I mean, at the department of defense who will actively work to as resistance 2.0, that's what's happening.

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But that's not what I'm arguing. My point is you lost the case. The Supreme Court said this was improperly filed in your courtroom. That's the end of your decisions, whether you're mad about them disobeying you or not.

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Yeah, no, same. My kids, they, they watch like a Mr. Beast video and it's got like a hundred million downloads and they're like, mom, you know, you really got to step up your game. Like, yeah, sure. A hundred million. That can't be the goal. Same thing in my asshole. Okay. So let's start with the time 100 and then we can talk about that other ridiculous gathering that's happening this weekend.

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There was some not great polling that came out on Trump via Fox News. It's, you know, we're getting the 100 day or celebrating or lamenting the 100 day mark. And it showed that it showed that he has a 44 percent approval rating, 55 percent disapproved. That's down five points from a 49 percent approval in March. On border security, he gets his highest marks.

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They love what he's done at the border. 55% approve, 40% disapprove. On immigration, it's about tied, meaning more, I think, the deportations. It's got to be speaking to that because it's just immigration general has approved 47, disapproved 48. Foreign policy, he's down 14 points. There's a 14-point gap. The disapprovers are winning 54 to 40. The economy, he's down 18 points. Disapprovers, 56%.

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Approvers, 38%. Tariffs... They don't like the tariffs. Disapproved, 58%. Approved, 33%. Inflation, bad. Disapproved, 59%. Approved, 33%. Only 59% of voters are unhappy with how things are going in the country, but that's much better than Joe Biden was doing, which was any place from 68 to 70 plus. But just as the Democrats listen to us go through those numbers and think, oh, maybe there's hope.

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You take a look what's happened over there, and I'll kick it off with Harry Enten, who breaks down the data in the following clip. Saw 10.

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I love his body motions. I love how he gives it his all, the upward, downward, left, right. So what do you make of all that with both Trump's numbers and the Dems? Yeah.

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So I, I'm, I know you've been, this is, I've, the way it works is like you get inducted and then they invite you back as like, you know, one of the members.

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Yeah, exactly. So I've been a few times because I got inducted back in 2014. And I got to be honest, when they inducted me again this year, I was like, did they forget that they already put me on this list back in 2014? I don't even know if you can you can you be inducted twice? I have no idea.

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I think Tim Walls would want you to mention him. He he was profiled as he saw honorable mention. Yeah. And he says here's the following. They say Walls is a big metaphor guy. For instance, he refers to his delirious vice presidential campaign as his 90 day eras tour, the Taylor Swift tour. It's a good line, but even the Atlantic writes as follows, but an imperfect metaphor.

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Taylor Swift's heiress tour reinforced her rolling dominance. Waltz's ended abruptly and badly. They talk about how he had a good crowd when he spoke recently at the Youngstown Dior Performing Arts Center. 2,800 people? Okay. I mean, I guess that's not bad, but he was just the vice presidential nominee on the Democratic ticket. I would expect it could have gone a little bigger.

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And then he volunteered that Bill Clinton called him in early October and said to him, don't allow them to make you a caricature, referring here to Waltz's own campaign higher-ups, not Trump. You are a consequential governor, and that's what you should be running on. So

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I think Tim Walz, I know you don't agree, but he thinks he's still in it, that he could be on your little short list and maybe you're selling him short.

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How about Pete Buttigieg? Because he went on Andrew Schultz's podcast. And I just don't see this guy doing it. I got to be honest. But he said the following. I mean, talk about controversial. The left won't write 10,000 articles about this because he's on their team. But trust me, If someone like me or Tucker Carlson ever spoke like this or anybody right of center, they'd be killing them.

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Yeah. And then I found out it wasn't a mistake, which I thought might have been. Anyway, so that's fine. But I have to tell you, Mark, I really did wrestle with like I don't really the people at time were absolutely lovely. I should say that up front. They were really nice up and down the line and like did not sense one iota of hostility toward me, given my political views.

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There was a discount for the babies of color. That's what he said. And then he tried to correct it to, you didn't have to pay a deposit. There's so much in there, Mark. So first of all, the list to get a white baby is longer. I mean, there are far more white people in America than there are black people.

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So I'm not sure because it's his team that has been lecturing us like when Amy Coney Barrett got chosen as Trump's latest justice, that it's not OK for a white couple to adopt a black baby or a baby of color because somehow that's like us working out our need to further colonize. It was I don't understand the criticism, but it was awful.

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All over the Internet when it came out that she had adopted, I think, two children from Haiti that the crazy woke leftist that he speaks for will tell you you shouldn't do that, that you're depriving this child of a chance to connect to a parent who shares like the. the history behind this race.

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But now, with this crowd, he wants to say, we're racist as Americans because the question is asked of potential adoptive parents, do you have a preference on the race of your baby? And then he slips and said, you get a discount for the babies of color. I mean, you tell me, anybody... Think of anybody on the right who said that. I don't care who it is.

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It could be somebody as likable and almost universally loved who's on the right and happens to be in a gay marriage as Guy Benson. They'd be killing him.

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You know, they they did nothing other than make me feel welcome and were super kind. And I appreciate that. But the nature of the gathering is just off-putting to me. Whereas when I first went in 14, I was a little bit more starry-eyed. It was very cool. It felt like something to me. It felt like, wow, I've accomplished something, which I hadn't. I launched my primetime show. That was good.

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So they're not the only example of this, of course. And I want to stay on presidential politics and whether this guy's got the stuff. But since we're now on the topic of the Democrats obsession with race, Trump is floating. a proposal similar to what they're doing in Hungary where they're rewarding women for having babies over there.

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You can actually avoid paying taxes if you have, like, I don't know, two kids. Forgive me, I don't have all the facts at the ready, but it's something like that. And J.D. Vance, of course, has been speaking out about this for a long time, so is... Tucker Carlson, member of the board, Charlie Kirk, member of the board.

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OK, so it is something on Team Trump that people are looking at how to incentivize increasing the birth rate because it's not what it needs to be for population replacement. And this one of the proposals reportedly being kicked around is possibly giving women a five thousand dollar tax break per child. None of this has been formally proposed, but reports are leaking.

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That's where The View picked it up. I'm sorry, Mark Halpern, but you're going to have to comment on them. Here is the discussion they had the other day.

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Okay. So the suggestion is he he he wants to do this because he wants more white babies. Just a quick fact check, because they're saying that the birth rates are are he's he's unhappy that like the whites aren't having more babies versus the Asians and others. And yet, if you look at the birth rates that are down, it's whites and blacks, whites and blacks are down.

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The numbers are as follows. Um, they're up for Hispanics and Asians who, uh, for whom the number of births rose 4% and 5% percent respectively year over year. But the number of births declined 4% for black women, 3% for American Indian and Alaska native women and declined less than 1% for white women. So if anything, it's, it's, It's declined more for black women than it has for white women.

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But again, even then, I wasn't one of the most influential people. And You go and you get asked, like, what does it mean to you to be one of the... It's like, oh, God. And so I... I wrestled with whether I should go on the red carpet and give interviews. I definitely was going on the red carpet for a picture. For sure, I wanted to do that.

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So if Trump wants to incentivize random women to have more babies, you'd have to be thinking, yes, he is looking at the populace that's having the fewest, which would be black people, which does not dovetail at all with Sonny's and Joy's argument. It's just all so ridiculous. So back on the subject of Pete Buttigieg, whatever, Buttigieg. And whether he's on the list or AOC is really on the list.

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I mean, I realize we're a long way off from 2028, Mark, but are they starting to form like exploratory committees? Is it, they've got to be thinking about it.

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So you're not that impressed with the potential Democratic field?

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But you also have to choose whether you want to talk to the press that's there, like Daily Mail and Extra and all those folks. So you'll hear a little bit of that struggle as I sat and spoke to Extra TV. Here's a sound bite.

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But first, last night I did go to the Time 100. Remember yesterday I was still a little bit on the fence. Do I go? Do I not go? I don't totally believe in these big, you know, red carpet galas. I've been to very, very many of these and I don't know. I just had mixed feelings about it. Um, It's very self-congratulatory, right, to go to something like that. And it's also not true.

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I disagree. Totally disagree. He's radical when it comes to the trans issue. He's as radical as they come, only outdone by Tim Walz.

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On the trans issue, too. But it's a lie. I look forward to hearing the interview nonetheless, because I trust you won't give him a pass. Stand by. We're going to take a break and we will come back with Mark in just a minute. He's host of Next Up with Mark Halpern. You can go and subscribe now. Tax day may have passed, but for millions of Americans, the real trouble is just the beginning.

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I kind of laughed because I've been here before and then I was canceled and now here I'm back again. So that was good. What does that say to you? It says that nobody decides who gets canceled other than the American public. Okay, so Abigail Fine and my assistant insisted that we play that soundbite, which we did because she was with me through the set cancellation.

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A little bit more coming in on this judge in Wisconsin who just got arrested by the FBI for escorting an illegal who was in her courtroom facing assault charges out of the courtroom trying to avoid an ICE arrest. That is the allegation. And Pam Bondi was just on Fox News talking about it. Here it is.

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Mark, this story is currently topping the Washington Post website, Drudge Report, the Wall Street Journal. This is going to grow. It's going to get bigger over this weekend and could turn into a firestorm, which is good for Trump.

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But, you know, overall, it just felt a little embarrassing, right, to be walking around with people pretending that this is real, that this really is the 100 most influential people and that somehow you've moved up in some imaginary power grid, right?

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What's so perfect about it is she's doing, allegedly, explicitly and physically what These other judges are doing with their pens, right? Like inserting herself in a way that ensures that this illegal will go free and will be set back out onto the streets of America with no consequences for any bad actions. That's that's how a lot of us feel.

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These federal district court judges are behaving from coast to coast. So it's just going to undermine what the ACLU is doing, the American faith in the judiciary. I think it's a story that the U.S. Supreme Court will know about and be upset by. It's just bad on every level for Team Blue.

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Yeah. No, it's not. And it can't be sustained in this way. It was Joe Biden who caused a huge portion of this problem by opening up the southern border. And we're all dealing with the effects of it in our real lives. And Trump is a policy matter.

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We don't know for sure whether it was the Joe Biden or whether it was some aid around Joe Biden, since the stories are leaking out left and right now about how mentally infirm he was and how hard the left worked to cover it up. There's like four or five books coming out now on this particular subject. And even lefties are asking lefty lawmakers about it.

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Elizabeth Warren sat down in a podcast called Talk Easy on Sunday, and it did not go well when this subject came up. Here she is.

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OK. Good for you, Sam Fragoso, for asking the questions for listening audience. At one point, she says, I said what I believed. And she kind of cocks her head to the side and raises her eyebrows like, got it. And he did exactly the same head cock and look back at her like, let's go, lady. I've got you. So what do you make of it?

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Yeah, everyone saw it. It was everywhere. That was another thing. Buttigieg on that podcast was like, you know, I'm really worried about the state of journalism, that people might mistake some podcaster for an actual journalist that's got the whole weight of a newsroom behind him. As if, you know, that we can trust. And it reminded me of when I sat down with the New York Times recently.

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And she was trying to tell me that they're the vaunted New York Times. And I was trying to say, really, where was Peter Baker on the mental decline story? Why didn't he figure out that a neurologist had been to the White House 10 times in the past year? Don't tell me about the vaunted corporate media being so much better and more reliable than the random podcast host.

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This is the biggest story we've had in a decade. And they, if you wanted to be most charitable, missed it. But the truth is actively covered it up.

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Well, thank you. I think I like that. I appreciate that. We got to leave it there because we're going to run out of time, but I want to remind the audience it's called next up. They've got to check it out. Go subscribe, support Mark. We want this to be a success for all of our sakes.

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We need honest journalists like him out there supported and able to tell the news honestly to the audiences nationwide. So it's going to be a big success. I'm sure. Thanks to all of you next up. And don't forget, we are going to be dropping a bonus episode. It's coming with one of the men fired last week from the Pentagon.

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This is the first time he will be telling his story about these leaking allegations. Don't miss it later today. Have a great weekend, everyone. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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Yes. Right. Of course. And, you know, when you're there, it's very clear because you look around and it's like, all right, some people there have accomplished so much like Simone Biles. She was there. She spoke. She's impressive by anybody's measure. I mean, she's just incredible. She's been through a lot, too. And, you know, total respect.

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But then you had people like Blake Lively, who was there with her husband, Ryan Reynolds. By the way, they were there. I think she was inducted the first year I was inducted to. We're on the same path with these people. And Blake Lively has been in some movies and some successful TV shows. But in no world is this person one of the most influential people in America.

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This is part of what you say is the scam. And here is another thing I was wrestling with. I knew if I went and I gave interviews on the red carpet, Mark, I was going to be honest in response to the questions, which as you know, is a hard no for these things. Like that's not the goal. You don't be honest. You just like play it straight.

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Maybe I shouldn't go over to the people and give an interview. But then I was like, ah, F it. So I did. And I was asked by the Daily Mail about Blake Lively. And here's how that went.

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Well, I'm definitely hoping for some sort of a selfie in the distance with both Blake Lively and Meghan Markle since they've provided me with so many hours of content.

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It's a ridiculous joke. She shouldn't be there. She has no influence over anything. Right.

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I mean, I think she launched a fake Me Too allegation against him, and she's lived to regret doing it because virtually every allegation she has made has fallen apart. And so for her to be honored for doing that, to try to ruin a man over absolutely nothing, is a scandal. And obviously they're looking for big stars to come here and generate pages on their magazines, but that was very wrong.

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I have a feeling she's going to be avoiding me. I won't be avoiding anybody. I'm good.

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I couldn't care less, but I do care when people bastardize the Me Too allegations against people who don't deserve it. And I think notwithstanding the fact that they can lawyer up with very powerful PR people and lawyers and so on, we have to be very clear-eyed on what looks real and what doesn't and call it out when it isn't.

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Otherwise, no one who's actually experienced these things is going to be believed. So... You know, now today there are a bunch of headlines about that and me specifically hitting her on what I said I believe is a fake Me Too claim against Justin Baldoni. Go ahead.

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You know, I said this last night, with all due respect to time, I don't think they really do pick the most influential people in the country. You know, I think it's really like a PR event for time. And that's fine. You know, I don't want to be ungrateful. I mean, I appreciate being named again, but it's... I have to be honest. These things, they're very navel-gazy. And it's... I don't know.

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Yeah, because it's very rare to have a red carpet comment along those lines.

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And I don't mean to be impolite, but I'm not going to lie. I'm very outspoken about my opinion on this person on this show. Millions of people have already heard it. And in no world was I going to stand there and try to pretend like I didn't feel that. It just would have been a farce. But I have to tell you, it's pretty cathartic to say how you really feel. It's like... I just said what was real.

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Like, I did it. And it's very funny because you can see Doug, my husband, in the background like, okay, here we go. This is happening. Then there was another interviewer. Yeah, go ahead.

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And you four shouldn't be here either. They asked me about my recent dust-up with George Clooney, who rather than focusing on his waning acting career, is commenting on yours truly and my journalism. And I had a little response to him on the show the other day, and here's that exchange when that came up.

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Honestly, George Clooney trying to advise me on how to practice journalism? Take care, honey. Okay. You know what? He should call me up. I would love to talk to him about it. He's obviously got thoughts on me. So let's do that. That'll be fun. So, Mark, it was basically a night of antagonism.

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Yeah, I mean, beta royalty. That's the truth, beta royalty at best, like Maureen says about Meghan Markle, beta royal, or hairy. Meghan Markle was not there. She actually only wound up participating in the summit leading up to the big event that which I was invited to, but declined to go.

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Secretary of State Marco Rubio expressing an increasing impatience with Russia-Ukraine peace negotiations as the Trump administration reaches its deadline to strike a deal.

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The White House previously stating the desire to finish a deal by the 100-day mark of the second Trump administration. President Trump's tone remaining optimistic as other White House officials express an increasing impatience. Secretary of State Marco Rubio in a Wednesday interview with the Free Press.

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Vance conveying a similar sentiment earlier this week.

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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky rejecting the U.S.-backed peace proposal presented last week in Paris, calling it too biased toward Russia. Mr. Zelensky saying the plan offers clear concessions to Russia and only vague promises to Ukraine. According to Axios, the plan includes formal U.S.

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recognition of Crimea as Russian territory, a key demand from Russian President Vladimir Putin, and a red line for President Zelensky. the peninsula annexed by Russia in 2014 in violation of the UN Charter, prohibiting member states from using force to change international borders. President Zelensky at a Tuesday presser saying, quote, Ukraine will not legally recognize the occupation of Crimea.

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There is nothing to talk about here. This is against our constitution. President Trump responding on Truth Social, calling President Zelensky's stance, quote, very harmful, writing, quote, Crimea was lost years ago under Obama and is not even a point of discussion. It's inflammatory statements like Zelensky's that make it so difficult to settle this war.

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A civil war bruise inside the DNC as Vice Chair David Hogg launches an outside campaign to unseat fellow Democrats. And Michelle Obama opens up on skipping the inauguration and the burdens of being her. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update. Now more than ever, it's important to shop with brands that share your values. And that's why I want to tell you about Nimi Skincare.

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Multiple outlets, including Axios, The Washington Post, and Politico, reporting the deal also includes lifting Russian sanctions. Secretary Rubio responding to that reporting on X, writing, This is unequivocally false. Neither Steve Witkoff nor I have had any conversations about lifting sanctions against Russia as part of a deal with Ukraine.

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In response to President Zelensky's resistance, Russia ramping up attacks against Ukraine, on Thursday launching the deadliest barrage in nine months, CNN reporting 70 missiles and 145 drones striking targets, mostly in Kyiv. Ukraine emergency services stating at least 12 killed and more than 90 injured across 13 locations.

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including civilian areas, with the possibility of those numbers increasing as rescue crews search through the rubble. President Trump posting to Truth Social on Thursday, quote, I am not happy with the Russian strikes on Kiev. Not necessary and very bad timing. Vladimir, stop. 5,000 soldiers a week are dying. Let's get the peace deal done.

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A civil war brewing within the Democratic National Committee, sparked by newly elected Vice Chair David Hogg's plan to use his PAC, Leaders We Deserve, to target members of his own party. Last week, Mr. Hogg, who rose to national prominence as a gun control activist after the 2018 Parkland school shooting, launching a $20 million campaign to unseat Democrats in safe blue districts.

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His goal, to replace them with candidates he claims will revitalize the party. Mr. Hogg laid out the effort on Friday to Scripps News.

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House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries on Sunday responding to the announcement.

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DNC Chairman Ken Martin calling out Mr. Hogg Thursday on NewsNation.

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The chairman pushing a proposal that would require officers to take a neutrality pledge. Such a pledge would force Mr. Hogg to either step back from his PAC or vacate his post within the DNC. Mr. Hogg publicly vowing to fight to keep his position, though political reports Mr. Hogg told two Democrats he is willing to lose the vice chair position.

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The push for reform comes amid mounting distrust from the party's progressive wing, long critical of the DNC's treatment of outsider candidates. In 2016, leaked DNC emails revealing internal bias against Bernie Sanders, prompting the resignation of then-chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

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In 2020, similar suspicions arose when Sanders led early, only to see Joe Biden surge after a South Carolina win, boosted by what appeared to be a coordinated exit and endorsement by Democrats. Pete Buttigieg, Amy Klobuchar, and Beto O'Rourke just days before Super Tuesday. Chairman Martin's neutrality proposal is expected to be voted on at the DNC's August meeting.

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Coming up, a first-of-its-kind terrorism case, the DOJ targeting a top member of Venezuelan gang Trenda Aragua, and Michelle Obama opens up about skipping the Trump inauguration in January. As President Trump is settling into his new administration, one of the top Democrats in Congress aiming to undermine the Trump agenda is Democrat Senator Dick Durbin of Illinois.

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You can learn more for yourself at guardyourcard.org, and you could consider telling your senators to stop Dick Durbin's government takeover of your credit card before it's too late. The DOJ this week bringing its first ever terrorism case against an alleged high-ranking member of the Tren de Aragua gang.

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President Trump designated the Venezuela-based group a foreign terrorist organization earlier this year. The designation allows the Justice Department to prosecute members under federal anti-terrorism laws to seize assets, to increase penalties, and coordinate more closely with international law enforcement.

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Federal prosecutors charging 24-year-old Jose Enrique Martinez Flores with conspiring to provide and providing material support to a designated foreign terrorist organization, as well as conspiracy and distribution of cocaine in Colombia. intended for distribution in the U.S. Mr. Flores apprehended by Colombian officials in March at the request of the American government.

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He remains in custody there as prosecutors move forward with the charges filed in Texas. According to the indictment, Mr. Flores is a high-ranking leader within Tren de Aragua's operations in Bogota, Colombia, allegedly orchestrating the delivery of large quantities of cocaine with the proceeds funding the gang's activity.

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If convicted on all charges, Mr. Flores faces a maximum penalty of life in prison and a $10 million fine. Attorney General Pam Bondi saying the charges, quote, represent an inflection point in how this Department of Justice will prosecute and ultimately dismantle this evil organization, which has destroyed American families and poisoned our communities.

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How long till the ACLU says we're not allowed to prosecute this guy? Former First Lady Michelle Obama opening up on her podcast, IMO, to actress Taraji P. Henson about burnout, boundaries, and how hard it is to be her. Mrs. Obama addressing her controversial absence from President Trump's inauguration. as a form of self-care.

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Ms. Henson lavishing praise on the former first lady saying, quote, when do you ever get to live for you? Ms. Obama then complaining that as a Black woman, she is not allowed to give voice to her pain.

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The White House is 55,000 square feet with 18 acres and a full staff of people who wait on the first family hand and foot. Mrs. Obama now enjoys three luxury mansions, including a seven-bedroom, $20 million estate in Martha's Vineyard, a multi-million dollar Netflix and book deal, as well as worldwide adulation and two healthy, elite university-educated daughters.

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And that'll do it for your AM Update. I'm Megyn Kelly. Join me back here for The Megyn Kelly Show, live on SiriusXM Triumph Channel, 111 at noon east, on YouTube.com slash Megyn Kelly, and on all podcast platforms.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and happy Friday. What a week. What a week I'm having, but in a good way. Especially busy for President Donald Trump, who got right to work after taking office on Monday, as we've been discussing.

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I know there's been absolutely no proof of it. You've got just this week, well, last week before the inauguration, AOC saying, I'm not going to the inauguration because I don't support rapists. That is a defamatory statement. She didn't make clear that's opinion. She said it as though it were a matter of fact. It isn't. And I really think he should give some serious thought to suing her.

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She wasn't on the legislative floor. She was sitting in her apartment doing a little Instagram. You can't get away with that. You can't. a term like he's a rapist or he's committing potential treason in working with the Russians. News organizations have just, and politicians for that matter, given up all the guardrails that we used to observe. We used to at least try to be more careful.

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I still try to be careful. I'm certainly never trying to be reckless out here. I'm very relentlessly fact based and not to say we're always perfect. But, you know, if you make a mistake, you clean it up and you do it transparently. I've seen you do that, too. There is an irresponsibility that's taken hold of certain of our news organizations when it comes to Trump and politicians, too.

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It's no accident. It's usually about him, Pierce. That is really kind of unprecedented.

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So this will be his first long-form interview, and I'm looking forward to discussing with him what it is CNN did to him and why they were so unapologetic. The jury saw it differently. Okay, but here to kick us off today is Piers Morgan. He's the host of Piers Morgan Uncensored on YouTube, which is now available on all podcast platforms as well, and he's now going fully independent.

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Call her bluff, exactly. All she had to do was say alleged. I mean, she would have been covered if she had said alleged rapist, but she didn't want to because it wasn't as powerful. It didn't sound as despicable. And so she really put herself out there on a limb. On the Netflix front... They continue to do this, and I feel exactly as you said. I watch Netflix all the time. I enjoy Netflix.

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I don't agree with the politics of the guy who owns Netflix, but they continue to do this to people, and it's really wrong. They say it's a true story, and they lead you to believe, and like you point out, in Baby Reindeer, they had the actual guy to whom this allegedly happened as the star, so you believe he's telling—it's like, oh, it must be true. It's a firsthand account—

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And then they also did this long thing on the Central Park Five and the prosecutor, Linda Fairstein, whose reputation they absolutely ruined with this. And her critics have tried to ruin her over and over and over. And they put on, thanks to Ava DuVernay, the celebrated leftist director, a bunch of things about Linda that weren't true, that were made up.

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And they were forced to admit it when she sued them. So that's been an ongoing litigation, or it was for a while now. She actually wound up on my husband Doug's podcast, which he does about books. It's called Dedicated with Doug Brunt. And Linda Fairstein talked a little bit about this, where she really hasn't at all

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in any event, it's wrong. Netflix, people are watching this thing at home without, you know, they're not like in forensic examination mode. They're taking in entertainment and accepting that if they're told the true story, that's what it is. It's really irresponsible.

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So I was able to- You've got to be careful with criminal convictions. Wait, can I ask you a quick question about her? Because I'm always afraid to interview anybody who's been accused of stalking or convicted of stalking, which I realize is not her case, because I don't want to pick them up. You know, like they have this weird gravitational pull.

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And if you spend time with a stalker, especially as a public figures peers, you're, you're waving the red flag to the bull. Did you have any concern about that?

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And that's what we call defamation per se, where you don't even have to prove damages. The court will presume them if you say somebody is a convicted felon and they're not. All right. Well, that's the whole thing is fascinating. I was very into that baby reindeer series and I learned a lot. I couldn't I thought the interview with her was riveting, Pierce.

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While we're on the subject of the media, there is in the news today because we're kind of talking about the Trump derangement syndrome in the media, too. is a confession by someone at The Intercept, which is the news organization that Glenn Greenwald helped found. You know, it's on the left and it had a certain POV.

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And then it just went so crazy that Glenn left it in a blaze of glory that it continues on. And there is a guy there named Jim Risen, who Glenn says they hired just to be sort of a counterpoint to some of what Glenn was saying. Glenn always thought the Russiagate stuff was nonsense. So they bring this guy on to say, oh, Russiagate, Russia. No, it's real. It's real. It's real.

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And he's got TDS, Trump Derangement Syndrome. So he goes on the Intercept Briefing podcast. And I swear, I think he speaks for so many journalists in and around D.C. Take a listen to SOT7.

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OK, on top of that, I hear on The New York Times is podcast The Daily this morning that Trump in revoking the security clearances of people like John Bolton is intentionally sending a message to Iran that they should kill him. So the media is not handling it well, Pierce. They are not not coping with his reelection and inauguration very well.

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It's great to see you too. So just as a practical matter, I'm curious because I knew you broke away and you did the YouTube thing, but does this mean you're not working with Rupert anymore or what does this mean?

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Just think about the weird articles we've seen over the past year or two about how men can chest feed, showing the torture of these little babies trying to get milk out of a man's breast.

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Yes. We're just uterus havers. There is something in the news about the UK and school children. The UK has been just as bad on the trans stuff as the United States. And they had the whole Tavistock Clinic, which thankfully closed, where they were transing kids. And it's still going on.

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They need an edict like the Donald Trump executive order, but at least they've seen the light on the puberty blockers and the cross-sex hormones, which we have not, even though the vast majority of Americans now oppose puberty blockers for kids, according to the latest polls. But we're behind the UK when it comes to that. But here's something that was in the news I want to ask you about.

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UK school children now Schoolchildren are about to be shown this documentary about this so-called trans teenager. And it's about a teenage girl who's, quote, transitioning into male, which is not possible, using a breast binder and starting testosterone. It's going to show in classrooms in the UK in February to promote LGBTQ History Month. And it's funded by the National Lottery. Here is a clip.

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It's a social contagion and it's one that could lead to sterility not to mention the numerous problems that overtake you physically when you go on puberty blockers, forget cross-sex hormones as a young person, then they parade it out there in a way they would never do with anorexia, with cutting. Can you imagine a video like cutting? If you're stressed out and

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depressed and anxious, it can really be a relief for you to just take a knife and start slicing your body up. And then in four years, you might feel a whole lot less anxious. You'll have scars all over your body and you might actually be playing with fire on your life. But I'm telling you, you'll feel less anxious. Look at me covered in scars. This is exactly the same equivalent thing of that.

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I cannot believe they're putting this in classrooms, but then I can, because we were at a school in New York, a private school where they were celebrating and promoting trans ideology in the third grade, which is one of the reasons why we left. All right, wait, let me shift gears. There's a lot more I want to get to. What do you make of the Trump order declassifying JFK, RFK, and MLK files finally?

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Here's here's Trump signing the EO and with an interesting closing comment yesterday.

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Yesterday, he signed another flurry of executive orders, including one that got all of social media talking to declassify all remaining documents related to the assassinations of JFK, RFK, and MLK Jr. Can you believe we haven't yet released those? I mean, this happened in 63 and 68 before I was born, before a lot of us listening to this were born.

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I think it's a great thing. I think it was clearly the right move. It's like, my God, we're generations removed. Let's just have the truth. I don't actually, unfortunately, expect any smoking guns because I don't think these people are dumb enough to put one in writing and keep it in a government file.

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And if it were already in there, knowing that declassification was very much in the news for the past 10 years, it would have been pulled and destroyed. But still, whatever. Let's take what they have. He also appears yesterday pardoned 23 pro-life protesters. We've seen this in our country. We've seen it in your country.

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I saw that poor woman who was literally just praying in her head outside of a UK abortion clinic. And she got arrested because the cop was like, what are you doing here? You're standing here. She was like, I'm praying inside my head. She was, and she got arrested. We've seen the same stuff happen over here. There is some of the people who are being released are, one was a

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Holocaust survivor who was protesting quietly outside of an abortion clinic. Here's one, um, Eva Edel singing with other protesters at a Nashville abortion clinic in 2021. Um, this is not one of the ones that she was indicted in, but you can see that she is sitting in a wheelchair with the purple blanket. We'll

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Okay, so my own take on it, Piers, is I assume they're violating a law. I don't actually take the time to look it up, but there is generally a time, place, and manner restriction around abortion clinics that doesn't allow you to go in, doesn't allow you to disrupt the experience for a woman going in there. Okay, fine. What the police should do is go remove those people. They should get them out.

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and enforce the law in that way. But to actually throw these people in jail and treat them like they're hardened criminals, they gave real jail sentences to so many of these people, and I support the pardon. What do you think?

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Yeah. I think even it's like some of these cases, like five years in prison, three years in prison, several years in prison, like if you really want to make a point with the 87-year-old Holocaust survivor, which, I mean, truly, this is what we're doing, 89-year-old Holocaust survivor, right? Maybe you say you have to do one day of community service now.

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You've got to go out there and I don't know what an 89-year-old could do in community service, but I'm sure it's something. Answer phone banks or some charity. That I can live with. I think most people who know they're going to break the law and do this at an abortion clinic are prepared to accept something like that.

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I think most of them would even take a day in jail, sort of civil disobedience style. But five years in prison for praying? This is ridiculous. So good for Trump on that. And now we must get to the most important news of the day, obviously, when the two of us are together. And that is Meghan Markle and Prince Harry.

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But we actually do need to talk about the fact that Vanity Fair has turned on them, peers. Vanity Fair with a hit piece on her in particular. writing all about how she's a diva, which some of us have known and have been talking about, and how people can't handle working for her. Okay, I want to get the quote. Let's see. Stand by. Okay.

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Two sources say a colleague with ties to archetypes, her podcast took a leave of absence after working on three episodes, then left Gimlet, the podcast producer altogether. Several others described taking extended breaks from work in to escape scrutiny, meaning from her exiting their job or undergoing long-term therapy after working with Megan. Okay.

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The person who interacted professionally with her says, And going on to say, Quoting someone as saying they are the most entitled, disingenuous people on the planet. They moved from England to get away from the scrutiny of the press, supposedly. And all they do is try to get in the press in the United States. So what does all this tell us?

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I totally agree with you. And one thing that's great about YouTube and this other format is people can consume it the way they want. If they want to watch the whole show, they can watch the whole show. If they prefer to just watch sort of the hot clips or the things that interest them that were in the show, it's so easy for them to do it.

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Right. Sooner or later, everybody turns on them. It seems like just all they need is exposure. All they need is time. She's bullied almost all of her staff out of the job. They all wind up leaking to the press what a horrid nightmare she was to work with. And the other piece in the Vanity Fair article, which was amazing, was about him.

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And how neither one of them showed up with any ideas on what to do. Like, actually, how are we going to earn all this money? And that one of the ideas for the podcast that he had was that he would get people like Vladimir Putin and Mark Zuckerberg to sit with him. but it wasn't because he said everybody's got damage in their childhood, and I had damage in my childhood too.

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So you're thinking, okay, all right, I guess he's going to use that to bond with them. No. The conclusion was that their experiences had made them into sociopaths, according to Harry, and he wanted to explore how they became sociopaths, but he remained totally normal and was not, quote, one of these bad guys. And Vanity Fair pointing out...

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Trying to get a season's worth of world-famous sociopaths to talk about how they developed sociopathy would be what is referred to in access journalism as a booking challenge.

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Yeah, they're saying it's actually going to pick up in March now as opposed to the January launch date. I'll tell you, as somebody who's got friends out there, they can't get apartments even to rent. The rental market has tripled. People are taking advantage of this terrible circumstance of their neighbors. You've got to pay a year up front and rent.

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It's like they're not going to be in a mood for, you know, Megan and her Martha Stewart imitation in March any more so than they are now. Pierce, always a pleasure. We will see you over on YouTube. Looking forward to it.

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Awesome. Always entertaining and definitely uncensored. It's a pleasure, Piers. When we come back, as I mentioned, we're going to have this Navy vet who successfully sued CNN for defamation. Don't go away. When it comes to grocery shopping and meal planning, it's often stressful and time-consuming.

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That's HungryRoot.com slash MK. Code MK to get 40% off your first box and a free item of your choice for life. HungryRoot.com slash MK. Code MK. Last week, we told you about the blockbuster defamation verdict against CNN. Jake Tapper's show The Lead in 2021 ran a report by a reporter named Alex Marquardt that accused Navy veteran Zachary Young

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of exploiting, quote, desperate Afghans by demanding, quote, exorbitant fees and operating in a, quote, black market while offering evacuation services after Joe Biden's disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan. CNN scrubbed the report from the internet, but we have it here, which you can watch for yourself.

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And the lower third for the listening audience has got the stuff about black market and exorbitant fees. I mean, it's a fascinating story, except it's not true. Despite what the report and its on-screen chyrons, meaning the lower third on your screen, showed, Young did not operate in a black market. He did not advertise to Afghans. He did not charge exorbitant prices to Afghans.

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And he did not exploit Afghans. What Young did was save dozens. And if that report were not bad enough, what CNN was doing behind the scenes and what they were saying about this guy Young was even worse. You just saw CNN's Mark Hart try to make the phone call to Young. Well, thanks to discovery in the case, we have the video of him filming his reaction shots to this. Watch this.

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Theater, theater, not news. Theater is great. I love theater. It's super fun. It's not news. And you don't really generally get sued for doing fake things on stage on Broadway. It's kind of the nature of the business. It's not the nature of our business. This is not the only problem. Texts show this guy Marquardt writing, we gonna nail this Zachary Young MF-er.

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And other CNN employees calling him a shit, an a-hole, and a shitbag. This is relevant because in a case like this, you generally have to prove that they behaved with some malice, depending on whether the court finds Mr. Young a public figure. And those would be exactly the kind of texts that would suggest there is some. And take a look at your screen here.

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Producer Michael Conte said Young had a, quote, punchable face. He was asked about this text in his deposition, and he did not back down. Watch.

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This is not what you would call a good witness for CNN. It's unbelievable. The jury awarded Zachary Young $5 million in compensatory damages. This just happened. And they were set to give him even more in punitive damages. That's the phase of the trial that they were about to move on to. They found CNN liable. They gave him $5 million compensatory.

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And now they were about to debate just how big the punitive damage award would be when Young and CNN entered into a confidential settlement. CNN, for its part, released this statement. We remain proud of our journalists and are 100 percent committed to strong, fearless and fair minded reporting at CNN, though we will, of course, take what useful lessons we can from this case.

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Zachary Young joins me now, along with his attorney, Val Friedman, here for his first long form interview. Guys, thank you so much for being here. Zachary, thank you for your service. And first, just tell me how you're feeling right now with like about a week to breathe after this whole thing wrapped up.

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Val, can you just put into perspective how unusual this is to get this kind of defamation award against an organization like CNN?

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Was Zachary deemed a public figure or a limited public figure? Because, you know, if so, CNN would have more protection. And when we when we report on people who are public figures, you really can't be sued for defamation as news people unless we do it. We commit errors with what's called actual malice. So what was the standard that the court implied here, Val?

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Wow. Wow. OK, so then that's when you settled the case. And I'll get back to Zach to tell the story in a minute, but I'm just kind of interested in the legalities of it. So I'll stick with you, Bill, for a minute. So that's when you settled the case. But you didn't settle it earlier, not because CNN didn't try to settle it. They they did try to settle it, but you guys would not settle it.

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I have to say, Zach, as a news person myself now, I'm not huge on suing news people for defamation. Of course, it's scary there before the grace. But this is so egregious. I mean, I can't imagine a case in which— Like I've never texted with my producers this way about somebody that we're reporting on, like with such disgust and animus.

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And then gone out with a report that my internal producers were telling me was, quote, full of holes like Swiss cheese and not even worthy to make the website. But they'd let me say it on the air. I'd be scared shitless to actually front a report like that. And then when the person sued me to do anything other than completely fall on my sword and say, oh my God, we got everything wrong.

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I'm deeply sorry to Zach. And frankly, I probably would have put you on the air to let you tell me to my face in front of my audience how wrong I was. That's truly how I would have handled it had I ever been in such a terrible situation. But all you got out of CNN from what I read is, and we'll go, we'll do the backstory in a second, was like this generic sort of,

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Pamela Brown sitting in for Jake Tapper, anodyne, milk toast, correction and generic like we're sorry. Is that basically all you had prior to filing the lawsuit?

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They're afraid. For the reasons I said. But it's like if you approach your job earnestly and you do your – it's not to say you'll never – potentially defame somebody.

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It's like, when you talk about people for a living, there's always that risk, but you have to have trust that you're, when your heart's in the right place and you have an honest approach to each of your stories that will rule the day because the defamation bar is high. It's high. So, you know, it's like, if you're quick to correct and you're honest about, did we make a mistake?

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And do I owe this guy an apology? Did I screw it up? In my experience, you'll be fine. You'll be fine. And by the way, you know, you can times that by 100 when you're dealing with, you know, a former veteran, a veteran, because it's like there actually is a reputation there to harm. Like, you've got to be extra careful. You're talking about somebody who's served his country honorably.

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Like, you really could hurt such a person. I want to show this, the correction by Pam Brown, which was aired Months later, the report, I think, was November of 21. And then the correction came March of 22. And then that corporate representative, the CNN senior VP, I think, at trial saying everybody on the editorial team disagreed with the correction. Watch these back to back, 28 and 29.

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because the legal department was saying, you've gotten it wrong. And also the standards department, Vell, looked at the report before it hit air and said, I think they're the ones who said Swiss cheese. I'm just looking at my notes here.

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internal communications at CNN saying, okay, it had approval from Triad, which is senior editors of CNN whose story vet, and their editorial team known as The Row, standards editors and lawyers, and that the internal communications showed...

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that there was CNN employee Alison Hoffman saying this story was, quote, pretty flawed and we should consider foregoing the right, meaning on CNN.com, and just having the video programmed. CNN employee Tom Lumley texting, quote, My fundamental question is not answered, but on TV it's less of a problem. Dramatic, silhouetted interviews, and it zipped along, so less glaring.

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An exchange between this guy Tom Lumley and CNN employee Megan Trimble. Lumley, it's an incomplete story in my opinion. Trimble, it is. I can see why it could make a quick hit video. Lumley, it needs more reporting. We don't really know what's going on. Trimble. but it's not fleshed out for digital.

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Again, here again for the audience, them making a distinction between what they'd show their audience on air and what they'd put on CNN.com. Lumley explained that, quote, the TV package was watchable because it had interviews with people scared for their families, but the story's full of holes like Swiss cheese. Trimble agreed that, quote, the story is 80% emotion, 20% obscured fact, LOL.

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Lumley tells senior editor Fuzz Hogan that, TV piece was a good watch, but for digital, I have too many outstanding questions. Wow. So, Val, it looks like notwithstanding this strong opinion amongst the standards people, like this is not ready for air, CNN aired it. And if I were to get these CNNers in front of me today, they'd be saying, Megan, we didn't make a mistake.

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Other than the chyron that said black market and suggesting that Zach was part of that, we didn't do anything wrong.

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So many people have told me that they watch this show on their TV via YouTube. Like they just, you know, we all have the YouTube app, we have the Netflix app, whatever. You just go to the YouTube app and you watch it like you watch a regular television.

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What did you think of Alex Marquardt and his testimony, the reporter who caused all the trouble?

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They don't really even see a difference between linear television and the YouTube options now, except in content and presentation and who's there, you know, because you can do a lot more and say a lot more and approach it very differently and more authentically on YouTube than you can if you were on conventional television.

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Oh, my God, this is such a disaster. I'm sorry, but, like, having tried cases, even if this is a tactic, even if the tactic is, we did nothing wrong, so I have nothing to apologize for. Yes, there was some shit talk behind the scenes, but I didn't say it to Mr. Young's face. You go in there hat in hand, hat in hand, and say... This was dumb ass behind the scenes talk.

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You know, we actually at the time believed he was a bad guy. That's why we were talking like that. Now I realize we had it wrong. That's why we issued the correction. And I'm very sorry. That's really the only correct posture there. And then you could maybe say, but technically the only thing that was wrong was black market, whatever their defense wound up being.

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And this was totally approached the wrong way in a testament to his arrogance and frankly, the arrogance of CNN, because any smart boss would have said, Alex, you're about to cost us millions of dollars, potentially 100 million if they had gotten to punitive. For the love of Christ, try to look sorry. OK, sorry, Zach. So let's go back to the original problem. So you're

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which is why, I mean, not for nothing, but didn't you think it was so weird that Dr. Phil decided to buy a linear TV channel to launch? I'm like, I love Dr. Phil, but what is he doing, right? And I don't think it's doing very well. And he's now starting to toy with having more of a presence in the digital lane. But it's just that whole Oprah model is dead. It's yesteryear.

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You're in Afghanistan and, and explain to me what you were doing because you were charging money to evacuate people. But as I understand it, the error was you weren't charging Afghans. The fees in your view were not exorbitant and you were dealing with groups like non-governmental organizations, NGOs saying, do you need my help in getting your people out?

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Those are companies that were using guys like you to get their people out because Audible, the podcast company, is that what you mean? They're not capable of sending in a former Navy SEAL to go get their people out of Afghanistan.

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So how long did they give you to respond to this hit piece? They were preparing on you under two hours.

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It's like playing with lanterns when we have electricity. Why would you do it?

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He didn't want to be bothered by you with your side of the story. He was too excited to get you, which is what the texts reflect. We're going to get this MF-er. It was obviously a designed hit piece. So you testified on the air or at the trial that this had real effects on on your life and your business. And it is a unique skillset. I mean, I've interviewed Eric Prince.

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It's a unique skillset to know how to operate in this kind of theater safely and to do something as risky as evacuations. I think that's why you charge money for it. And people like companies like Audible are willing to pay for it. But when that all went away as a result of this CNN report suggesting you're some sort of a dark force on the black market, taking advantage of hurting people.

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They're still being kept a secret, but I mean, it's like, it's long overdue. It's kind of ridiculous that we're even having to beg for these things. Plus, a vote to confirm Pete Hegseth as Department of Defense secretary is expected to happen late tonight. And it's going to be a close one.

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Can you comment on the fees that we showed in that report? They say they were exorbitant, $75,000 for evacuation by car, $14,500 per person to get to the UAE or Albania. Having absolutely no idea what it costs to evacuate somebody from Afghanistan, I have no context for those numbers.

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This is $75,000 for one vehicle, five to six passengers, Kabul to Peshawar. So it was for multiple people, just so the audience understands that wasn't for one person. Keep going, Zach.

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I mean, it's so crazy because I think about even my own show. If I had a correspondent who was over in Afghanistan, and let's say it's not a war correspondent. It's somebody there who's just reporting on international relations, and this happens, and I need to get him out. It's my responsibility as the company owner to get him out. I'd be thrilled to have an option like Zachary. Like, great.

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I would have no idea where to even begin. I'm not going over there. I'm not qualified for this. So I need to hire somebody who's got a background that's appropriate, that he knows what he's doing, was in the Navy, was in the CIA, knows the region, knows how to do risky ops to rescue my person. That is definitely worth something to me. And it's not going to be $500. That's obvious.

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I'm not, you know, I think it had to be a political agenda. Or maybe Maureen Callahan was on the show when this verdict broke. And I think she was the one suggesting, boy, they gave Joe Biden a bigger pass on this disastrous operation than they did you at CNN. Like maybe it's transferred anger.

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You know, it's easier to blame you as doing something wrong than their their leader who they didn't want to criticize. I don't know what the motivation was. Uh, but I mean, the jury didn't seem to care. They thought it was personal. And I think on that, they were right. Stand by.

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Cause I want to, I want to, um, tell the audience what has happened to Alex Marquardt since this happened, uh, since this whole, you know, dispute arose and we'll ask Zachary to give us a feel for how much he got. I'm Megyn Kelly, host of The Megyn Kelly Show on Sirius XM.

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That was the judge in Zach's trial against CNN laying into CNN's lawyer, who also happens to be named David Axelrod. It's not the David Axelrod you know from their commentating. Val, why was the judge so mad at CNN in that clip?

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Wow. Wow. That's stunning. I did not know all that. So Zach, let me ask you this. Was there any point during the trial? Because I realize, you know, you, you, it sounds like you had the opportunity to settle this before you went to trial. You didn't, you wanted to make a point. Was there a point during the trial at which you could have settled it? Like, because there's risk, you know, while you're

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you're not, you're not a hundred percent sure as the plaintiff or the defendant, how the jury is going to come back a jury of six in Florida. You liked your chances in this particular jurisdiction, um, which was more red leaning and probably not full of a ton of CNN lovers, but okay, fine. I'm sure they would have found in CNN's favor if the evidence so showed.

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Yes, of course. So when the jury stood up, because you're always on pins and needles when you're waiting on a jury, it's the worst feeling. It's just terrible. They call you back in there with a verdict. So you stand up to hear the verdict, I assume, or you're sitting there. And when they said that they found CNN liable and they were awarding you $5 million, what was that like?

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Val, how were you able to sue in Florida, right? CNN's based in Atlanta, and it sounds like Zach was overseas. How'd you get this case in Florida?

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They did it to themselves. They did it to themselves. If that same jury eight years ago would not have done that. CNN did that to themselves and I watched it happen. Um, so tell me, Val, what happened with the punitive damages? Would Like, where were you on that? Because you had they already said and he's entitled to punitive damages and now we will deliberate the number.

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And didn't they? It made news that somebody from CNN testified or maybe it was your expert about the just the downward spiral of revenues that CNN is facing now, which was kind of interesting. Do you remember what that was, Val?

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Oh, yeah. Well, maybe they'll go up now that they've moved Jim Acosta to midnight. We'll have to wait to see whether that makes sense.

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I mean, as I will tell you, as having been an anchor in cable news for a long time, in this case, I don't blame Jim Acosta. I really I don't know. Maybe you disagree. I don't blame Jake Tapper either, because there's no way they wrote the intro scripts tossing to Alex Marcotte.

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Normally, the way that would work is the field reporter would come up with a report and the editors and the producers back at home base would. would say, what is the story? And then the writer on the show would write the intro. The executive producer would approve it. Sometimes if the anchor has time, they'll just edit it for voice.

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But you're not really doing the reporting as the anchor at the anchor desk in that instance. It's the field reporter and the producers at your network that you are relying on. And that's why it's so egregious that they promoted that guy, that they, knowing you, because you filed your lawsuit before they promoted him in, He was promoted in September of 2023, right, Val?

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Wow. Wow. Okay. So in the midst of this damage experts saying 120 million, that might do it. Um, CNN, I imagine knocked on your door again and said, can we please put this to bed and spare Zachary the pain of two more years of this matter in an appellate court, et cetera, et cetera. And so finally, Zach, you decided to settle the case.

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Let me ask you this. That night, did you have a McDonald's quarter pounder and cheese? Did you have a real filet and a nice steak, or did you go for the full surf and turf?

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I mean, lawyers, we're like, it's just a different breed. I love lawyers. I really do. Like, I know I'm in the minority, Val, but I just think lawyers are freaking tough. They, people don't understand how stressful it is. The depositions, it's so combative, a real adversary. I mean, I don't compare what we do to like military guys like you, Zach, but like,

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There's a real adversary standing up there trying to convince the judge you're an idiot and he really is out to get you and undermine you and make you look stupid. You have to be ready for everything. I don't know. In the same way, like some of these adrenaline junkies wind up losing their adrenal gland. It's got to happen to some lawyers too, Val.

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I can't let this end without asking a question about the difference between digital and TV. Is that explained, Val? Like, I don't understand. Maybe you can shed some light on why CNN thinks, apparently, according to these notes, it might be okay to air this Swiss cheese full of holes report on their television network, but not on dot com.

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Like, uh, why didn't we settle? Why are we, why am I here? So Zach, now what? Now you say that people are like, you didn't work, you didn't work for a couple of years. So now you've gotten a settlement and you've gotten your name cleared. Do you think you can go back to doing what, I mean, not the Afghan evacuations that's, that's over, but like, what's next for you?

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And the Democrats are still slinging mud up until the 11th hour as we got a look at the Republicans who are likely to vote against the nomination. I also want to tell you that later in the show, I'm going to be joined by Zachary Young. Who is Zachary Young?

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You know, hang with your dog. I understand you got a dog named Misha, who you love.

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Very nice. That's a good life choice. And your wife too? She's still with you? Are you guys okay?

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Good, good. Well, I have something to say. I think that no matter what CNN says outwardly, I guarantee you inside the company, this was a holy shit moment. And I bet you they did do some revision of their protocols and maybe another chat with their reporters about – what's okay to express in a text and what's not.

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Um, but it would just be human instinct to try to shore up your reporting and be like super careful after something like this. So even though they're not saying it publicly, Zach, I, I bet you they're doing it and that's because of you. So good luck to you. Thank you. Uh, congratulations to both of you. And thanks for telling your story here.

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Wow, what a story. Gosh, it's just so, you know, I meant what I said at the beginning. I don't take delight in seeing another news organization be found liable for defamation. It's, you know, it's thin ice for any journalist because we're in the business of reporting on other people. That's our business. And what business never makes a mistake? What business gets it right 100% of the time? Right?

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So it's like, but the law protects us in a lot of ways. Like the standard to prove defamation against a news organization is high. And in nine times out of 10 cases, if you screw something up and someone's angry with you over your report, they will come to you and ask you for a correction and say, here's what you got wrong.

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So you actually, unlike a doctor who cuts out the wrong organ, in journalism, you usually do have the chance to cure, which is such a privilege, right? So you got a second bite at the apple to go back and say, did I F it up? Let's check with my people. Let's make sure we didn't do this guy wrong. And at that point, if you choose to stand by the story, you own it, you own whatever comes.

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I mean, really at the first instance, but really at that second point. And it's such a weird set of circumstances where CNN winds up giving this half-hearted apology, which obviously was insincere. And then by the time they get to trial saying, we didn't mean a word of that. We're not apologetic. He does have a punchable face. How did anyone think that was going to work? I don't know.

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Mm-hmm. It's fascinating, and it's so fun, and we're so lucky to be over here.

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Good for that guy. And I hope he rebuilds his life. Thank you all for listening. What a week this was. Have a great weekend and we'll see you Monday. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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Well, I think the names you mentioned, you and Tucker and I, were never meant to be constrained. You know, it was just, that was never going to hold. It didn't hold in any of our cases. We all got booted from different organizations for just being too outspoken. And so I feel like it's landed where it should.

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And thank God this ecosystem rose up and I think was in part developed, at least in the news lane, not originally, but in the news lane by folks like us. And thank God, right? Necessity is the mother of all invention. Something you mentioned about CNN I wanted to ask you about.

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As I mentioned in the intro, in the second hour we're going to have on the guy who just successfully sued CNN for defamation and won big. And one of the things I saw in the packet as I was preparing for that interview is they appear to have a much lower bar for what can make it onto their air interview. than they do for what can make it onto CNN.com, like their digital website.

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Well, first, this is his first long-form interview, and he is the military veteran who just successfully sued CNN for defamation, winning a $5 million compensatory damages award from them, and they were about to move on to the punitive damages phase where they were recommending the experts something like $120 million, at which point CNN... settled this case.

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The defamation standard is the same. He has to prove the same whether he's been defamed by an anchor or a producer writing for the website. But I was kind of shocked at how lazy and lackluster CNN apparently is about what goes out on what most people know CNN for, which is its airwaves, all this internal correspondence, which we'll get to on how it's like, it's very sloppy.

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It's full of holes, but like, yeah, it's fine for CNN. We just can't put it on digital. What do you make of that? I mean, you used to work at CNN, but what do you make of that?

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Megan Kelly, welcome to The Megan Kelly Show and happy Friday. Lots to get to today, including more on the cover up of former President Biden's cognitive decline. And I mean, I really feel like we need to say attempted cover up, attempted.

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Or she knew she was going to be publicly humiliated by the tapes getting released, or he was going to beat her again. And so they're arguing he was forcing her to sex traffic herself in these freak-offs. That's the theory. And they're doing a pretty good job. You know, they're doing an excellent job, to be honest.

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The defense to it is her voluntarily calling the sex workers, and I use that term in quotes, voluntarily, was it or wasn't it? The jury will have to decide. Her texts saying, I can't wait to freak off again. But again, there's another text saying, I can't wait to freak off. It's great. I love the freak offs when we both want them. Oh, she said that? Yep.

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soundbite. I thought we pulled that Wendy Williams thing because she got fired from her job for making a comment. Oh, we do. Oh yeah. She was working for hot 97. Just want to clarify. My team's saying that the prostitution charge has a, has a 10 year potential sentence. I, I got to go back and look at that because I remember looking at this and seeing it was one.

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In any event, one to 10, let's say. And he's 18 years older than she is. So she, I mean, she was a kid, 19. Oh, he's 18 years older. Oh, that's significant. And when he met her at 19, he was almost twice her age. I mean, like, that's ridiculous. Not to mention one of the most powerful rich men in music and in the country. All right. So here's Wendy Williams. This is back in 1998.

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So next thing she knows she's fired. And then again, that was 1998. And then she spoke to Howard Stern in 2006 and he brought it up. Watch this.

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Okay. It's not a denial. And the last but not least, Diddy went on the Wendy Williams show in 2017. So now we're, you know, many years after her firing, almost 20 years after her firing because of that comment. And he makes some comment about her son. Watch this.

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You can see how awkward she is as soon as she hears they met. And he's now got a visual on the son. And I would submit to you, Wendy Williams was concerned to hear that the two of them had had an exchange backstage.

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I mean, and she's the star witness. It must've been important to her because any woman knows that, you know, two weeks from delivery, you know, you're feeling emotional. You're worried about your baby. You don't want that amount of cortisol running through your body, you know, when you're about to give birth to another human.

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And yet she got herself up there and the prosecution knew that she was about to have this kid and that it would be a much different story. She probably wouldn't do it after he or she is born. So they got her on the stand. A word about Bieber. Um,

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And through no particular source, but I will say that a source with knowledge of Bieber has suggested to us recently that he may have other issues that are causing the public meltdown now having nothing to do with Diddy. And they did put out that statement saying he's not one of Diddy's victims. Now, I wouldn't expect them to say he is one. So take it for whatever it's worth.

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Doesn't matter how much money you think you can get and doesn't matter how happy you think it will make them. It won't. It won't. Might make them temporarily happy. They're a star. They feel cool. They all crash and burn. All crash and burn. I mean, think of it. There's like maybe one example, maybe two.

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Yeah, if you really search to try to find somebody. But the vast majority, even if they wind up okay in the long run, like a Drew Barrymore, go through the Drew Barrymore addict stage where the mother's taking him to parties and they're taking drugs at age eight or whatever her story is. It's just not worth it. Wanted to go back to the Kid Cudi testimony because it was very interesting.

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I do want to correct something on the morning update today. A rare mistake. We said that Kid Cudi took the stand on Wednesday. And in fact, he took the stand on Thursday, just a clarification. Here's what he testified to. He said he met Ventura in 2008 and they were just friends. They started dating around 2011.

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He thought that they were having problems, Ventura and Combs, by 2011 that they weren't dating anymore. And Combs told Kid Cudi by phone in December 2011 that he wanted to talk to him because he understood there might be something going on with Ventura. Diddy's girl and Kid Cudi. And so he said he left the hotel he was at with Ventura and went home to his house, Kid Cudi's house.

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And he found that there had been a break-in directly following the phone call. Kid Cudi returned home. Combs was not there, however, but he found his security cameras had been moved, gifts he bought for his family had been opened, and his dog was locked in the bathroom. which he testified was disturbing to him.

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After the break-in, Kid Cudi spent the holidays with Ventura's family and received a few texts from Combs, but the rapper was not interested in talking to him, citing that he believed Combs was responsible for the break-in, said Kid Cudi, noting that he filed a police report over it. So he was concerned, right?

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He definitely thought he was being harassed by Sean Diddy Combs over this blossoming relationship with Cassie Ventura. This was, okay, December 2011. In 2011, January 2012, Kid Cudi said his dog, Watcher, called him from his home to tell him his car was on fire. I hate when that happens. Right? I mean, that last time we had that argument over space, next thing I knew, my beamer was gone.

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I don't know anything about it. Looking at the photos, Kid Cudi explained, it looked, quote, like the top of my Porsche was cut open, and that's where the Molotov cocktail was put in, causing further damage that could not be salvaged. Combs and Kid Cudi then met in person. Oh, look, this is the picture for the listening audience.

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We're looking at his Porsche, which... Does not look like a Porsche. I don't even know what that is. And I guess that's the top. Is that the soft top of his Porsche? Can't even. I can't tell if it's a hard top or not. I have no idea, but it no longer looks like a car. Oh, that's the seat. Oh, look, that's like the seat that's been on fire. That looks like a hard top.

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It looks like shattered glass. That's been ripped open. And I guess a Molotov cocktail dropped in. So this is the apex of the testimony here. He says, finally, he asked him for a meeting. He said, I figured I better talk to him. Things were escalating. And clearly this guy who is like kind of badass in his own right was afraid of Sean Combs because he didn't know what he was capable of.

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But to your point, or did he? He said Kid Cudi arrived to his meeting who was with him and Combs was alone. He said, quote, Combs was standing there staring out the window at this Soho house, staring out the window with his hands behind his back like a Marvel supervillain. And the pair went on to discuss Kid Cudi's relationship with Ventura from start to finish, he testified.

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When Kid Cudi asked Combs about the damage to his car, Combs said, I don't know what you're talking about. Kid Cudi didn't believe him. They ran into each other years later, 2015, so three years later at a club. Combs pulled Kid Cudi aside, and Kid Cudi said Combs apologized to him. Kid Cudi added he found peace with the situation after that.

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Kid Cudi did testify that Cassie Ventura told him there was physical abuse in her relationship with Combs that he would sometimes hit and kick her, which bothered Kid Cudi. But he did not hear about any sexual abuse. But there it is looking like a Marvel supervillain, which, by the way, there was no objection to.

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which I would have objected to had I been Sean's lawyer, but that image is now it's seared, right? Like with the hands behind the back, you can picture it.

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I mean, I remember interviewing Vladimir Putin and it was getting tense between us and he mentioned my children. What? Yeah. And I remember like, okay, I see what's happening here. I mean, this is what people do. It's like an implicit threat. It's just letting you know they're aware of what's important to you. And- That's all, that's all it takes. You don't have to be more explicit than that.

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And it's one thing, LeBron, to know about sex parties. It's quite another to know about beatings, regular beatings, which are illegal. That is one, a sex party isn't necessarily illegal. It is technically if you hire sex workers and if you're allegedly trafficking the other participant. But there's no question that repeated beatings, that's a battery. It's an assault. It can be a lot more.

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And everybody in the Diddy circle looked the other way. And very few, if any, intervened to help her. They allowed it. Here's the next guy, George Kaplan, former assistant to Sean Diddy Combs. He prior to testifying and without the jury present, invoked his Fifth Amendment. Whoa. He was like, I am not saying anything because I will be incriminated.

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And the prosecution offered him an immunity deal, which he then took. The judge watched him sign it. And once you sign an immunity deal, you can no longer assert the Fifth Amendment. So he was forced to take the stand. The jury didn't know he had signed that. I think they thought he was just there voluntarily.

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And he testified about three instances where he witnessed violence from Sean Combs, twice with Cassie Ventura in 2015 on Combs' private jet. And then another incident later in the year where he said he saw Ventura with visible injuries at one of Combs' homes.

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He testified to witnessing yet another round of violent behavior where he saw Combs throw a number of decorative or real, he wasn't sure which, green apples at another girlfriend hard, he said, like really trying to whip her with them. He was unsure if any of them actually hit the woman, but it wasn't for lack of trying. He said...

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He was the guy during his period of employment where he had to go clean up the hotel rooms after Combs was in there. He was worried that hotel staff would try to sell content from his room to the magazines to try to make money. He gave notice he was leaving in September 15 and finally left in December of 2015.

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saying, quote, the central reason that I left my job as Mr. Combs' assistant was that I was not comfortable or aligned with the physical behavior that had been going on that I had seen pieces of over the course of a couple of months. And then there's Myla Morales, former makeup artist for Combs and Ventura, who said when she first met Cassie, Cassie was 16. She was so young.

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This is three years before she was introduced to Diddy. Oh, my gosh. And she was doing her makeup regularly when she signed with Bad Boy Records, his label, in 2007. And she was like a younger sister to Maya. She witnessed, after a party at Prince's house... Ventura and Morales, the makeup artist, went back to a hotel room. This is around Grammy weekend 2010.

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And Combs made his way to the room where Ventura was, closed the door behind him, and yelling and screaming ensued, Morales said. When Combs stormed out, Ventura was distraught with a swollen eye, a busted lip, and knots on her head. The makeup artist took Ventura to her home where she stayed for a few days. Morales did not call the police because she feared combs and she feared for her life.

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Is it just me or has the success of the nerve taken you next level glam and beautiful and fabulous? Because you look, you've never looked better.

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She had a doctor friend look at Ventura who said she needed to go to the emergency room. Ventura refused. The pair never spoke of the incident again. And there was testimony by another witness that she saw Combs try to hit Ventura with a cast iron skillet that she was making eggs in. And then he whipped a... I don't think I'm conflating my two.

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There's been so much evidence of abuse, but I think this is the one woman's testimony. He tried to whip a wooden hanger at her head. And then the next thing she knew... Cassie asked to see her. They had lunch together and Cassie had $30,000 for her in a nondisclosure agreement and said, you're making too big a deal out of it.

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And the woman signed the NDA and the friendship ended with Cassie because the woman just couldn't take the amount of abuse Cassie was getting and now she'd been dragged into it. I mean, that's what people like... Look, people who just want to run cover for Diddy are focusing on the testimony that I've mentioned, you know, that she has emails suggesting she wanted the freak offs from time to time.

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She testified the lifestyle was important to her and she didn't want to leave it. And there was some strain of materialism in her. She, quote, played Kid Cudi and Diddy, which the defense is going to try to say what she's empowered by. What victim who's being controlled would cheat on the abuser and be controlling another man? But there is a tidal wave of evidence that he was abusing her.

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Everyone saw it. Over years, we've covered the whole gamut. This is 15 of this abuse, the 16 intercontinental issue, the 2011 and 2012 stuff, Kid Cudi. It went on for years. And this clearly was not an empowered woman who felt comfortable. Dealing with him from any position of power.

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Okay, great. It does. Him dragging her down the hall and putting her back in that hotel room is kidnapping right there.

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Well, think about one of the testimonials this week was from the agent who conducted the raid on his Miami home. Two of his homes were raided. And, of course, it was tons of baby oil and tons of lube. Don't forget the AR-15s. Well, that's where I was going. And so the guns, he found parts of guns disassembled. He found a fully intact gun in his security shack.

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I am going to hook you up with Sarah, who you know already because we were astronauts together. Okay. We're forever, you know. Yeah. And she is going to make life easy for you. Okay. Well, thanks a lot. I mean, just a couple extras in there. Give you just a little extra vroom. Well, thank you.

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And the Diddy cross-examination was basically, you realize he's one of the most well-known figures in the world and people want to kill him. And yes, of course, he would have an armed security guard around him. But let's not pretend Diddy is not a violent man. For the record, he denies these charges. But he's a violent man. We saw that on that tape.

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That's why the fact that it is on tape and the jury has seen the level of depravity that this man has when it comes to treating a fellow human being, a woman who's half his size and half his weight and totally powerless to stop him is so important. We don't have to wonder. He did it. We saw it. He started beating her shortly after they got together in 2007. That's what the proof has been.

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And all the way through, the videotape that we watched is 2016. That's almost 10 years later. Who that's empowered, who that has any sort of equality, nevermind equal strength, and the relationship stays for nine years of beatings. I don't think they actually broke up until 2018.

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He said he was going to show it to his wife that he was going home on a Friday and he wanted to show it to his wife. And it was a good thing because by Monday, when he got back to work, it was gone. The original was gone. Mm-hmm. And thank God he did tape that, you know? I mean, we never found out who was the source of the CNN leak. That's how we came to know that tape.

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Okay. So there's a lot to go over. I think we should start with Diddy because... Let's do it. Like, can we just put, let me put the legality to the side for one second and just start with what an incredible, disgusting dirtbag we're learning he is. He denies everything. He denies everything. He doesn't deny smacking her and kicking her and hitting her on the intercontinental tape.

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CNN got their hands on it and aired it. And it was a game changer in the narrative around Diddy. But one presumes he got it from this guy. I mean, I don't know, but... where else did it come from? It didn't come from Diddy. We know that, but thank God he got it because we don't, we don't have to wonder what kind of a man he is now.

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We don't have to wonder whether this is an Amber Heard, Johnny Depp situation. We know, we know what kind of a man he is. And the evidence is overwhelming. And by the way, a source close to the case told me that it's not going to come down to Cassie because there's so much corroborating evidence that he was a serial abuser, bully,

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kingpin of what looked like a crime ring all around his desire to do drugs, to use illegal prostitutes to run these freak offs and to bully. And another word is sex traffic. His so-called love is,

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into being the star of his ill-conceived sex romps by threatening her, by threatening her mom, by extorting her, by extorting her mom, by blowing up the cars of anybody she dared try to get away from him with. And by the way, to prove Rico, back to the discussion of the elements and the crimes- So we discussed coercion, like sex trafficking by coercion.

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But the big, big claim against him, count number one, is RICO, racketeering. And for that, you have to show two underlying predicate acts, they're called. It's two underlying crimes that your so-called mob boss or crime boss has committed or ordered committed in the context of this big crime organization you're accusing him of running.

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And typically it's used against crime bosses, but it's been used now in these more lurid sex cases too, like R. Kelly. And there are many crimes you can show, but bribery, like offering that security guard $100,000 to kill that tape. They've got testimony to prove bribery. Kidnapping, we watch that on tape. Assault, we watch that on tape. Obstruction of justice.

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There's been evidence of that, too. I mean, just if you paid to have that tape described destroyed. Right. You know, another hotel worker arson. That was one of the ones alleged by the prosecution. And yesterday his defenders were pointing out that Kid Cudi didn't say, did he admitted it? Well, right. But there's something called circumstantial proof in a case.

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And we've now had Cassie testify that Diddy did it. And did he do it? Did he did it? And we've then had Kid Cudi take the stand to say he threatened me. Right. I went home immediately. He had, I believe he had messed with my home and this is why I believe it. And I made a police report at the time. He threatened me again. Then my car was destroyed. I had a meeting with him.

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He said, I don't know what you're talking about. But then three years later, he apologized to me for some unspecified sin. I mean, that's enough for a jury to say, I believe he did it. I'm convinced. You know what would be enough for me as a juror?

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So we know he did that. But witness by witness, what we're seeing is this guy's a monster. And we've had his former assistants come forward to talk about the abuse they witnessed this week. There was one saying he quit because he just couldn't stand the amount of abuse that he was heaping, not just on star witness Cassie Ventura, but other women too.

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We knew anyone with eyes and ears knew, but there was more to it than was publicly revealed. And that's starting to come out. And by the way, it's going to keep coming out. This book by Tapper and Thompson is not the last. There will be additional books. There will be Now that people have realized you can make money off of telling the truth about him, more people will do it. That's America.

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I don't, I don't understand it. She's very young. It just so happens that the woman who is the mother to his children, uh, um, winds up dead at a very young age of a, of an illness that doesn't normally kill 35 or 36 year olds. Exactly. I'd like to know more. I would too.

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And you know, there's the whole Tupac and Biggie's malls, you know, those, I don't know what, if I'm not saying he necessarily committed those, but there's been a lot of speculation about, about what role, if any, he had in those two.

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The level of wealth, with these music moguls, dwarfs almost everything. I mean, you think you're rich, like you think Julia Roberts is rich for 20, $25 million a film. She doesn't hold a candle to the ditties of the world. Like you wanna make serious F you money, you either run a hedge fund or you become a music mogul.

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You're talking like hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars, billions of dollars, especially if you run the label, if you're not just the talent. Right. Like it's those people who sign other people that make all the money. In fact, there was testimony from one of the gals who was part of this music group, Danity Kane. Yes. She took the stand.

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and talked about the same thing, you know, how, uh, forgive me because I, I don't want to screw it up, but I think she was one of the ones who testified how he was abusive and she, she witnessed it. Um, there've been so many that I'm starting to lose track. I mean, there've been multiple women now talking about having witnesses abused or experienced it firsthand. Um,

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But she also talked about how they didn't make any money. Like, he makes the money. And this is a pattern in music. By the way, we'll wait to see whether that has any bearing on what Justin Bieber's going through. Because he's had that manager, Scooter Braun, that Taylor Swift had, that she had the big dispute with. That's kind of an interesting question. Um, but it's a pattern.

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It's a very exploitative industry, especially amongst those who own the record labels or who are the producers. And I just think like the mega F you money and the lifestyle and the trappings and the private jet and the huge estates and flying off to Jamaica or whatever, you know, tropical Island, he kept taking everybody to not to mention Epstein, similar pattern, right?

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People get intoxicated just at the whiff of it, Maureen, just at the whiff of it. And it explains to some extent their willingness to look the other way. That plus he was a threatening guy.

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And just pretty much everybody who takes the stand has another story about Diddy abusing some woman. I mean, brutally abusing them.

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He needed to feel dirty. That's what got him off. Yeah. But I would tell you like in a weird way, I, I understand the dynamic just because, you know, I've told the story about Roger Ailes and yours truly before, but it's, It's very different, but in some ways similar.

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And just in that you have this hugely powerful boss, hugely powerful person overseeing your career, who is clearly trying to make sex with you, the stakes for your advancement. And unlike these women, a lot of them, I had a very strong family background. I had an intact family. I lost my dad at a young age, but his imprint was already very secure on me and my id was very strong.

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And I couldn't be manipulated like that. Like I knew very clearly I was never going to do that. But the music industry preys on... People who are vulnerable. I think generally people who are determined to become stars in music or acting are probably very damaged as a rule. And they're working something out.

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One of the reasons why they think they're going to get fulfilled by becoming a star and doing this thing. A lot of very talented people choose not to go into those industries because they're too healthy. And so they're ripe for the advantage taking. And that's why it's one of the interesting things about the fact that the music industry never had its moment in the Me Too movement.

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It really never came under the microscope the way Hollywood did, the way news did. No one talked about what happened backstage at Rolling Stones concerts or at a Diddy concert or at a Kanye concert. All right, I got to take a break. There's so much more to discuss. Maureen's here for the whole show. Isn't it great to have her?

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Here with me today, Maureen Callahan, host of The Nerve with Maureen Callahan. It's part of our MK Media Network, and it's crushing it. You can go to thenerveshow.com to subscribe, The Nerve Show on YouTube, and The Nerve on all podcast platforms. Maureen has decided with her listeners and viewers to name her followers the troublemakers. I heard that and I approve.

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I've gotten so many nice notes from people saying, basically, you've changed my listening and viewing habits of news now. Like they're listening to you. They're listening to Halpern or they're listening to Link. And like, these are new voices who they only heard occasionally who they're now addicted to. I don't think he'll mind me saying, but Glenn Greenwald sent me a note saying,

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When I watch the show, um, I constantly find myself saying my daughter's favorite word, which is real. Yeah. That's what the kids say now when you say something that's true. Real, real. And we pulled a clip from The Nerve, the latest show, and I said it after this.

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Here is Maureen talking about all the lies that Hollywood's most beautiful women tell us about how it was just an effortless course to such beauty. And this one is about Jennifer Aniston. Here it is.

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Hold on a second. Does it look good? Yeah, it looks great. Yeah. It would never look better. Also, people are getting their top lip flipped up. They're getting their lip flipped up. It's like the attempt to do the Kylie Kardashian big lip, but without huge injections. And it looks terrible. Don't mess with your lips.

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Well, and then you know what you get, not to be cruel, but like you get some weird bumpiness. Have you seen it? Like there's some weird bumpiness that it's almost like the tell. I think that they've had a facelift or I don't know, is that filler left? I don't know what that is.

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I mean, you'd have to, I can't believe she went out in about in the world with that terrible facelift. I mean, it looked awful. I don't know. I think Demi Moore is probably like kind of addicted to all the plastic surgery.

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Cause there's been so many reports about like doing the arms and doing the legs and doing like the crotch and like, you can get all the, I mean, not crotch specifically, but you remember when she came out, was it for GI Jane or whatever, but she kind of had a resurgence after a low period in her career. And she looked, you know, 15 years younger. Yes.

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And there were all these reports, which she denied. They never confirmed them that she'd had everything operated. I like hikes in the arms and hikes in the legs and hikes. And I don't know, a friend of mine had the leg lifted like the leg so that the knees don't look old.

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And, um, she said, don't get that because she said, she laughingly said, I've got such bad scars now on like my bikini line that I can never, ever leave my husband. Yeah.

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Oh, my God. She was she's very open about what she's had done. And she had me in hysterics talking about this. Oh, my God. But anyway, this nonsense of it's just my water.

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That's right. And their own, they won't own their own insecurities and confess it. Right. They're just born that way.

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So on the knees, you know, as you get older, of course your skin does start to drape and the knees are a tell. And I recently saw a picture of Cindy Crawford and one of Melania Trump where they both have the knee like starting to sag. And I thought, thank God, you know, it makes you feel better. I have it too. I did. I did like three years ago have a laser tried out on my knee. You can do that.

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Yeah. My derm was like, yeah, you know, we could try that. And I'm like, okay, sure. It hurts so badly. She gave me nitrous oxide while she was, I had to go on laughing gas. It hurt like a mofo. It did make the knee look better. I'm not going to lie, but then it goes right back.

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Why did you hold out? See, that's what I love. I love the lasers and I recommend the lasers and I strongly oppose filler. You just look weird. It just makes you look weird. It doesn't make you look younger. By the way, there's no woman who's stuffed up with filler who you're like, oh, she's 30 when she's 50. Nobody thinks that.

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Okay. Very nice. She got the shout out. Well, I do love the lasers, and I've told the audience I try to get two Fraxels a year, once every six months. And honestly, I just had one. I just had one last week. You couldn't even tell. I was on the air. You couldn't tell that I was post-Fraxel. You don't really have much downtime if you don't go too crazy with it.

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And then in between the Fraxels, I'll have this little, it's called a Pico, and a Clear and Brilliant from time to time. What's a Pico? It's nothing. I mean, it's a nothing burger. There's no downtime. It doesn't hurt anything. I don't even know really if it does anything, to be honest. But I do think these are the reasons that my skin stays looking good.

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And that way more than like filling in lines gives you, I think, a more youthful appearance. Right. And it's not invasive. You know, I'm never going to get that crazy ass, you're bloody faced for 10 weeks or a one month. I can't remember. But I remember it was the O2. Anyway, CO2. Laser where the doctor, I had a new derm and she was like, have you ever had that? And I'm like, no.

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And she goes, is that something you'd be interested in? And I was like, I don't know. Should I be? She goes, well, do you have young children? I'm like, well, I have children. Why? She was like, you basically couldn't see them for like three weeks. Um, so I'm sure you got it. I'll come back when I'm 70. Yeah. Yeah.

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So no, I only like the ones that there's really not a lot of downtime on and they work great.

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And like even Jane Fonda, it's like too much. I know. I know. I don't want to cut into my face when I'm 80. No. I I want to like, I'm watching this series, which I highly recommend, by the way, if you don't have Brit box, um, you can get it on Amazon prime and, um, it's so fun. It's got British crime series and Doug and I love that stuff. Yeah. So we just finished watching.

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I like the pronoun I comma Jack, right. W R I G H T. So good. Six episodes. I have to warn you. They do wind it up on episode six, but not fully. So you don't have that, like, everything is explained feeling, but didn't change my thorough enjoyment of every episode, notwithstanding that fact. And in it, one of the stars is, forgive me, I should remember her name. I think it's Gemma.

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Is it Gemma Jones? She starred in Sense and Sensibility as the mother of... the two young women, and she starred in Bridget Jones' Diary as Bridget Jones' mom. You'd know her in a heartbeat if you saw her. And she's an older woman now. She's, you know, elderly. She looks great. She's beautiful. She's old. You're allowed to age in Great Britain in a way you're not here? Yes.

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And this is how I want to look when I am in my 80s, like a pretty 80-something-year-old who is old, but like... attractive.

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We all know it. Meanwhile, uh, Doug and I were laughing because he only goes to the derm for like skin cancer removal stuff, you know? And he's so the opposite of me. He went and had like whatever removed from his face and they put a bandaid on his temple and he went and did his show dedicated with Doug Brunt with the side that had the bandaid on facing camera. I was I would never. No, never.

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He has no vanity. He's like, oh, well. He's very different from me. Okay, let's keep going because there's so many good things in the news that I want to get to. We mentioned Lauren Sanchez. She posted, or no, she didn't post. She was in the tabloids for this picture of Jeff Bezos smacking her thong-wearing bottom on their yachts.

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This is, I submit to you, a total setup with the paparazzi because there's another one of her with her arms up, stretching, showing off the backside with the thong up the rear. She totally either knew they were there or set it up. And she's prancing around Paris. Here's some pictures of him smacking her bottom. Okay, you're young and virulent, Jeff Bezos.

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Look, look at this with her and the bottom, right? That is totally posed, right? Um, and then you've got these pictures of her ridiculous bachelorette party prancing around Paris. I've never seen Katy Perry look worse. She goes out, Katy Perry, she was caught by the tabloids walking out of her hotel with like, there's no bra on Maureen. She's wearing like, I don't know what this getup is.

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It's like a leotard with Panty hose. It's almost like Bianca Sensory-esque, where there's very little clothing. Like the time, as you said, comes for us all. And when you're past a certain age, you need a bra. Sorry, but you do. You know, especially if you've had children, which I believe she has, because things are supposed to be pointing straight out, start to be pointing down.

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Yes. So they, the lawyer asked him, why would you call your book freezer meat? And he said, what's harder than that? And his book is about erectile dysfunction. Wow. What's harder than freezer meat? I can think of a couple of things, but in any event, that is him, I guess, being self-deprecating.

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Kind of a couple parallels there. So speaking of our fellow astronauts, Gayle King is suffering some blowback. from her trip to space. And not just in the form of blonde origin, which you must check out on our YouTube channel if you have not yet seen it. It is our full parody of the blue origin debacle and the moronic, narcissistic women who were on that ride.

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But in the news today is, let me get on it because I want to quote from it, is the fact that There's blowback against Gail and others at CBS for that absurdity. Hold on a second. Was that in the AM update, you guys? Like our real AM update? Oh, wait, this is the, I've got the wrong paper in front of me. Sorry. I have so many papers when I come to air that I sometimes screw it up.

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I'm going to find it. Oh, that's so many papers and so little time. Here, I think I found it. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, the Daily Mail. Okay, first of all, CBS News is imploding. They fired Wendy McMahon, the president, the executive producer of CBS, of 60 Minutes, quit. Now there are rumors that both Gayle and Scott Pelley could be on the way out.

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There was a report the other day that Gayle was told they are not paying her her $10 million salary anymore. She has no viewers. It's not worth it. And, you know, she's not going to work for free, Maureen, like for seven million. These are the reports. But now there's this via the Daily Mail inside the vicious CBS News bloodbath where staff are fighting, crying and resent Gayle King.

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But yeah, I guess he's had a problem with this, which, I mean, frankly, he's in the wrong line of work because you can get away with that as a news anchor. Nobody would ever know. Yeah. If you're going into the sex worker trade, it does become an issue, I imagine.

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Tensions are running particularly high about reports that CBS's parent company, Paramount, is preparing to slash 500 million in costs in preparation for the lucrative merger with Skydance Media. against the backdrop of a ratings freefall. And there might be more exits to come. Multiple sources told the Daily Mail that 60 Minutes host Scott Pelley could be on the way out.

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It's marquee name after marquee name. I mean, let's not kid ourselves. There are no marquee names there. People don't want to say it out loud in the office, but the entire space debacle really hurt us. Oh, did it? said a 60 minute staffer, um, Gail being part of that, not a good look for our brand. You know what? You should have listened to us. Cause we could have told you that immediately.

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I think a lot of people resent Gail for it. I know I do. But the most, that's them, not me. But the most palpable impact appears to have been felt at 60 Minutes, where staff have compared the atmosphere to a sinking ship. The tension spilling out into the open with blazing rows in the office, rows in the office, over story coverage and petty squabbles concerning seating plans.

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Sources told the Daily Mail. fights and loud ones, said the insider. You can hear them in the halls. People are arguing over everything and anything from big things like how to report stories to small things like who is sitting where in the conference room. So it's not going well.

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And he was talking about how I imagine when you're having like forced sex or sex acts with Cassie Ventura and somebody's watching you, what he suggested was he'd been performing oral on her and then Diddy wanted him to, you know, go the next level and he couldn't.

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Can I tell you something else that happened at the Time 100? This was an amazing moment. So, you know, you have to wait in the line to get your red shot, your red carpet shot. And I was going to get that red carpet shot because that was the reason to be there. You know, like I just felt like it was an F you bitches moment to like my old pals at NBC. It was just kind of nice from that standpoint.

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So I was waiting and we were in front of we were right behind. I am forgetting, you know, I don't, I know nothing about the music industry, which I'm learning as I try to talk about the Diddy, the Diddy trial, but I know very little, um, but a big star, big music star and his wife.

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And, um, we'd all been waiting our turn, but this guy, forgive me for not knowing his name, but he was like the marquee talent for the night and everybody knew who he was, but not me. No, it wasn't Miles Smith. It was another guy. Um, keep going. No, it wasn't Ed Sheeran. No, it wasn't Ed Sheeran. It was a different guy. Anyway, whatever. Okay. Um, They stopped.

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So we're all filing in from the left of the red carpet and waiting in line. I was behind Priyanka Chopra. Okay. Right. So she's pretty well known. Everyone's waiting. As we inch up and it's almost like our time to go out there, they stop waiting. our procession from the left side, because clearly some big star is coming over from the right. I'm like, what is it, Tom Cruise? Who is it?

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Is it gonna be like somebody we'd all be like, oh, of course, yeah, okay, fine. Security demands that they get in and get out. It was fucking David Muir.

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And so he's writing about like this erectile dysfunction problem, talking about it, that he's having in the midst of this so-called freak off, making him perhaps not the ideal candidate for the freak off. But all of this is just background to like the serial weird sexual obsessions of P. Diddy and his treating Cassie Ventura like she was a piece of meat, like she was his property.

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Don't forget my waist cinchers. Don't forget that. I couldn't believe, I'm like, David Muir, you've got to be kidding me. That is such an insult to you, Megan. And it's such an insult to you. It's an insult to me, it was. But it was... an absurdity by him. I mean, honestly, like he should have been embarrassed. Everybody was expecting some truly A-list talent to come in there.

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And we were all like, David Muir? Everybody in line was like, you've got to be fucking kidding me. Just the fact that he would do it is kind of humiliating, but he did it. Okay. So that was that. Okay. Oh, Scott Pelley. We can't leave this subject without showing you Scott Pelley at Wake Forest.

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I don't know why Wake Forest would invite Scott Pelley and sick him on their graduates with, as you accurately point out, I've never heard it said right. Like you did lock jaw. He does have the lock jaw. That's not happening. with the glasses. So here he goes to speak to these poor graduates who are his captive audience.

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And keep in mind when you hear this clip of the free speech crackdowns that we suffered during COVID under Joe Biden, right? When he took over and how we got censored. If we said, try ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine, right? Or if you said COVID started in a lab, And it wasn't natural origin.

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If you said it's causing serious side effects like myocarditis, all of the crackdowns, right, that we've had on free speech, the disinformation dozen, where they actively worked with social media to censor regular Americans, where he sicked the FBI on parents at school board meetings if they were saying the wrong things.

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And now, now is the time Scott Pelley would like to throw a word out there for free speech and listen to him do it.

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So that's the Civil War, World War II and civil rights movement. That's what that's the same moment we're in now as free speech is under attack and universities are under attack and somebody's private thoughts are filled with fear. I believe he speaks of himself. And that's his inspirational message to the class of 2025 at Wake Forest University. He seems like a fun time.

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Yeah. Well, and it's just so ironic. It's like universities are under attack as the federal government tries to enforce Title VI, which doesn't allow open displays of anti-Semitism on campus. It's literally the law that they must step in if a college allows Jews, for example, to be openly harassed like Columbia has, like Harvard has.

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It's just that nobody else would enforce these laws prior to Trump. Right. And now he's upset. Yes. He doesn't like that. But by the way, where was he when the federal government was interfering, like I say, with parents trying to protect their children, when the federal government was interfering with

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with police departments across this country who had done nothing wrong, but were getting harassed by President Obama and then President Biden setting up fake consent degrees to try to make them answer to Joe Biden in their law enforcement or Barack Obama in their law enforcement, which thank God, Harmeet Dhillon, now deputy at the DOJ, has just undone. He didn't care. He wanted them scrutinized.

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He wanted government interference then when it ran right in line with his own ideology.

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It was interesting, I have to say, to see Sally Quinn of the Washington Post and was married to Ben Bradley, the famous, famous editor of the Washington Post for many years, and who, he was much older than she was, that's why she's still around, and got dementia. So she does know a thing or two about being married to an elderly, somewhat infirm man, at least he was in his later years.

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Also, an investigation now into his use of the auto pen. You've heard President Trump railing about this. Did you know there's actually an investigation underway right now into that? And there is reportedly a whistleblower, a top Democrat, who has come forward to the person doing the investigation to say exactly who was running the auto pen and why. So we could actually learn a lot more about that.

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He was a giant of the press when he was younger. And she went on this podcast with Tara Palmieri and listened to what she said in SOT 8.

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So even she, now even the left is trying to, is starting to come to terms with the fact that this looked very much like elder abuse by Jill Biden.

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You know what I mean? He's got that in that Gucci bag he has a security guard carrying around.

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The people want to hear our opinions, she said, on politics. Oh, she said that? Yeah. They want to hear from us on politics. Do they not?

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Yeah. Barely got it. It's amazing that we're actually running these people like Whoopi Goldberg's political analysis. Okay. I don't know how we got to the point where that became relevant. We do it just to make fun of them because they're very funny in an unintentional way. Yeah. But we'll see whether they do back off of all of this. All right. We're going to take a break. And when we come back.

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You may remember about, I don't know, was it like six weeks, six weeks ago or so? Maureen and I, before there was Blonde Origin, there was With Love, Megan. It was our parody on the Meghan Markle absurd Netflix series, which is her trying to be a Martha Stewart type and failing miserably. Well, we have a part three. It's short. You're going to enjoy it. And even Maureen has not seen it.

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We will show it to you next. And if we have time after that, we got to bring you the update on Bill Belichick. Don't go away. Since President Trump's election, the eyes of the nation have been on Mar-a-Lago and the free state of Florida. It's a thriving, booming place. South Florida is a special place because of its amazing water for boating, swimming, fishing and drinking.

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Today, clean water is endangered by toxic algae. You may have heard of red tide or blue-green algae. It can be dangerous and it can be gross. In his first term, President Trump signed a law to solve this problem with a new reservoir south of Lake Okeechobee to keep clean, fresh water flowing constantly to South Florida.

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President Trump said after years of rebuilding other nations, we're finally rebuilding our nation. Washington can finish the job in next year's budget and keep President Trump's promise. The Everglades Foundation, our advertiser, says that would be good for Florida and good for the Everglades. Learn more about President Trump's Everglades support project at evergladesfoundation.org.

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I'm Megyn Kelly, host of The Megyn Kelly Show on Sirius XM. It's your home for open, honest, and provocative conversations with the most interesting and important political, legal, and cultural figures today. You can catch The Megyn Kelly Show on Triumph, a Sirius XM channel featuring lots of hosts you may know and probably love. Great people like Dr. Laura. I'm back.

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Nancy Grace, Dave Ramsey, and yours truly, Megyn Kelly. You can stream The Megyn Kelly Show on SiriusXM at home or anywhere you are. No car required. I do it all the time. I love the SiriusXM app. It has ad-free music coverage of every major sport, comedy, talk, podcast, and more. Subscribe now. Get your first three months for free.

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For those of you who haven't seen parts one and two, they're also on our YouTube feed. But we decided to put a parody together of the Meghan Markle ridiculous Netflix series, With Love, Meghan, where she tries to reinvent herself as some sort of Martha Stewart type, doing the most ridiculous basic things like literally pouring coffee

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pretzels from one bag into another and we've been having so much fun at her expense all of you ask for more and indeed we do have a short but worth it part three here it is previously on with love megan oh my god you look amazing i'm doing something really generous for you and

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absolutely love them and then i just dump them wow just like that it's very important to me to put a little fruit in my bubbly i think it elevates it cheers dear i think people are happier when they're around me if they're intoxicated finally i can breathe again i've got it one pot pasta is happening I'm not reading, I have this in my head. You don't need to see that.

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Labels aren't important to me, Maureen. The one pan, that's important. 12 ounce cherry or grape tomatoes. Normally we get these from my garden, but it's not the season for tomatoes. You're gonna put that in the pan. You're just gonna lay that flat in the pan.

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How did you grow up? I'm from originally Los Angeles, and then, you know, by way of Northwestern, wound up back in Los Angeles. Oh, okay. Yeah. I just came back here because I have a natural connection to it. What I really wanted to do was direct my lifestyle blog. It was the time of Deal or No Deal, in which I was obviously the most coveted, looked-after model.

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And then, ultimately, I moved on to acting. After that, I met Dee. We fell in love.

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All right, we have things to do. Into the pan. Didn't I tell you food is my love language?

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I'm not looking at a recipe. I've got this in my head. That's another thing that makes me special. We scattered some greens on there. This is fresh from my garden. Pay no attention to that sticker. I don't know how that got out. Uh-oh. Oh, my dog just got in our pool, and there's the pool man trying to get him out, and he's all wet now. Okay, stand by. Be right back.

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He better be. I mean, I feel like you and I will do our level best to make sure that's the case. He's been a serial bully for the people who work for him, for the women he dates, um, And the mother, yeah, she's only on the stand for 30 minutes, but she told that story. And then once she gives it to him, she's had to remortgage her house. She gets the 20,000. She gives it to him.

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Sorry. Oh, you went in the pool, didn't you? No, no. Bad boy. Don't let him rub up against you. Oh, God. You're good. Just don't rub up against anybody. He's very wet.

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We're going to make a special fruit medley. It took my producer like three hours to pull the fruit together from the grocery store, so that's done. Moms, you can just whisk right over to your garden and then the Whole Foods and then the Trader Joe's, and ideally the farmer's market, and you too can come up with totally organic, natural, regenerative products like I have here. Let's get washing.

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That's what I am, I'm relatable. I'm just like everyone else. No, they point down, point down. That's how I do it, which means it's the best, the best way. All right, so this is just what I do.

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With a nanny. Right, right, of course, of course. You've got to be able to just, like, go with the flow when you're a working mom.

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I can't wait to watch the children eat this whole thing. Do you have children? Where's my drink? Could you please pass me my drink? I'm not sure why it's so far away. My god. It's exhausting being her. Ready? And... Voila! Actually looks delicious. Let's find out whether it is.

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Well, this has been so lovely. I'm so happy to have you here my dear dear close long life.

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A couple of days pass, he gives it back. Oh, I guess he had like an attack of conscience. Like, oh, maybe I shouldn't be harassing my girlfriend's mother for money she doesn't have. But I think he does enjoy the exercise of just making people subjugate themselves to him and seeing, especially with women, how much he can demean them and demoralize them.

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Did I misremember that? I guess. I thought that was what happened, too. But now looking at the tape, no, I was still in my first outfit. For the listening audience, in the end there, we changed into full black tie gowns and furs. Yes.

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That's a day. The whole thread of that one was she keeps having all these so-called friends coming on her show. And it's very clear as you watch the show, she knows nothing about her friends. And that's why you're my lifelong friend. But I was like, you know, where'd you grow up?

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I thought it wasn't bad either. I was impressed we did it. For the record, we followed the Martha Stewart recipe, not the Meghan Markle recipe. Which she did steal. If you look at hers, it appears to be just pure theft of the Martha Stewart recipe, which was decent. And so I haven't made it again, but it's there. But that charcuterie thing is such a nightmare. That thing took forever.

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That was the longest thing we did. No one could ever do that at home for a kid in the morning.

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He got our cocktails. He got our peanut butter roll thing in the first episode or second episode. Oh, right, right. And then he got our... What's the other thing he ate? He, he ate, I can't remember. There was a third thing he ate, but he was a menace as he normally is, but he's a sweet boy, but a bad boy. So I do want to show you one other clip of her. She's out still doing her founder podcast.

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And she wanted us all to know, as she worked in, in that clip we ran there to remind us, she's a regular person, Maureen, she's a working mom. So she gets what it's like to be a working mom. Here's the clip.

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There's been testimony this week that he had, he sat next to Cassie on a plane. And I can't remember whether it was, it must've been a private jet, but I thought they were saying it was a public jet. There were certainly other people around and he made her look at video he had taken of one of the freak offs.

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Oh, my God. And that we all see her as that because what she's she feels guilty about the hundred and fifty million dollars she grifted off of being a fake royal. Me, me, me, me, me.

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Who the hell wants to review thousands of emails from their mom when they were two, when they're later 22?

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But she pictured herself giving her speeches repeatedly. with a child on the hip. She's just so cool. She's going to do it all. But now that she's a working mom, Maureen, she's realizing it's just so hard, you know, the life-work balance, notwithstanding your huge mansion and your full staff and the fact that you're married to a prince.

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It's just, it's very, she understands the plight of working women across America.

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Right, right. Which she wants us to remind us of that she's a princess and she was part of the royal family. That's why she couldn't give the speeches because- There was a lot going on in my personal life at the time my babies were born.

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Couldn't have a baby on the hip because I had to sling those from the hip. Ba-dum-bum. Okay. Now, I'm going to have to get to the auto pen story on Monday because we don't have time for it, but it's interesting. There is an investigation underway and there is reportedly a Democrat whistleblower saying who was signing it and when. So more on that.

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But quickly, Bill Belichick, video has hit of him leaving the home of what we now believe was his then girlfriend, Jordan Hudson, and And this journalist, Pablo Torre, tracked it down. He was shirtless. It was before we really knew that they were having an affair and she was so much younger than he was. Here's the video. Oh my God.

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Oh, Pablo Torre got his hands on that and probably didn't know whether he should show us or not. And- Now there is an interview, right, of the woman who owned that house. Did she speak with Pablo Torre? I think this is it in Sat 20.

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And he threatened her saying he would release it like he was ready to use this and publicly humiliate her if she didn't do what he wanted. So on the one hand, you have that stuff and you have the video of the beating and you have had multiple witnesses testify about seeing him beat her. Her friend got on the stand and testified to that.

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OMG. That's so good. There's a question about whether like reportedly this is video that helped keep him out of getting another NFL coaching job. He wound up settling for the college level and oh my God, look at this. And now there's speculation that did she leak it?

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Is there some, did she have something to do with it in order to like, I don't know, did she want him not to get another job at the NFL or just to be more dependent on her? I have no idea, but there's now reports that they're engaged and you tell me how this is going to end Maureen.

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Chef's kiss. Can you imagine? All I would say is akin to the theme in I, Jack Wright, available on BritBox. Don't change your will, Bill Belichick. Don't don't change your will to make her the beneficiary. And if you do, don't tell her about it.

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We'll find out. Our own link, Lauren, is very pro the Belichick-Jordan relationship, and you can tune into his show to find out why. But make sure for now you tune in to subscribe and follow Maureen at The Nerve with Maureen Callahan. It's honestly, it's perfect for a Saturday morning when you got your cup of coffee. That's what I'll be doing, and you can do it with me. Maureen, love you.

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Love you too, Megan. Thanks for being here. Thank you all so much for watching. And my thanks to the one and only Maureen Callahan. She's such a keeper. What a star. Don't forget to go and subscribe to her show, The Nerve, with Maureen Callahan on YouTube and on podcast.

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And listen, have a wonderful, wonderful Memorial Day and take a minute, especially on Monday, to think about our troops who pay the ultimate price. and their families too, to keep this country safe and free. It's not just a day off, right?

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There are people who are really going to be thinking about lost loved ones on Monday, and let's make ourselves among them, thinking about those who gave it all in the name of freedom and liberty and all the great ideals that this country has fought and stood for for almost 250 years now. We will have a special Memorial Day episode for you.

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These episodes that we've been doing the past few years on Memorial Day, where we feature a veteran who has caught our eye. They're extremely popular. And it's for a good reason because we actually think long and hard about who we're going to book on those days. And you will not be disappointed on Monday. Do you know who John McPhee is? John McPhee is former special forces.

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She just had a makeup artist get on the stand and say she saw her after he had beaten her with knots all over her head, a fat lip, a black eye. The makeup artist tried to help her. The assistant to Sean Diddycombe saying I had to quit because I couldn't take the beatings. Cassie only testified to a few of these.

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He was on Sean Ryan and he was on Joe, Joe Rogan, but I'm telling you, you've never heard him like this. We went places I had never heard him go. He did not hold back. He's one of the most interesting people I've ever sat across from. He was right here in the Red Studio. In every moment between us, I was on the edge of my seat. The guy is unlike anybody I've ever talked to.

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I think you're going to love it. It airs on Monday, and I would love your feedback. In the meantime, you can email me, as always, megan at megankelly.com. Have a wonderful weekend with your family, and we'll talk on Monday.

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She said it happened regularly, but the prosecution didn't even bring out every beating. It was like all these other people who remember, oh no, there was this beating and that beating and another beating. And what the defense is trying to hang its hat onto is there's testimony from her saying, you know, why didn't you leave? And yes, she did testify. I felt threatened and so on.

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I was afraid of him, but also she testified and admitted she loved him and she did enjoy the lifestyle. She liked the cars and she liked the homes and the defense is going to try to drive a truck through that. They put on Kid Cudi yesterday, this rapper and separate and apart from the arson charge that he's trying to build, they're trying to build with him.

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He painted Cassie as not all that great because he suggested she was dating him while lying about the fact that she had left Diddy when she hadn't. And he used the word played. She played me. Right. She played me and she played him. Right. And the defense, too, is they're going to try to paint her as like this manipulative, strong individual. They are of her own volition. She loved the car.

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She loved the lavish lifestyle. She could have left at any time. She arranged the freak off. She called the sex workers. And I just think, yes, that's what they have to argue. But if you look at the greater context of the proof going in on that case, Maureen, it's just so clear that there was an overlying control that he had of her almost from the very beginning.

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Plus, Scott Pelley whines about the Trump administration in a wild commencement speech down at Wake Forest University. Those poor kids at Wake Forest, why were they subjected to Scott Pelley? Who's making these choices? All that plus the world's premiere. You thought we were done, but we're not. The world premiere of part three. of With Love, Megan.

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This is crazy. Remember when you and I talked about this? It was just a rumor. She had made an allegation in her complaint, her civil complaint, which she settled the next day. But we didn't know if it was true. And now you've got the actual singer, Kid Cudi, on the stand. Go ahead.

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They did. They put on a woman who testified in a few of these cases. She was a witness in Amber versus Johnny and maybe the Weinstein. I can't remember the second case. But she testified just in general. She hadn't examined Diddy, but she was testifying to that dynamic in domestic abuse relationships.

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That was one of the rare times someone tried to intervene, because what we've seen these past two weeks is people under his employ or under his thumb not intervening and feeling really bad about it, feeling disgusted with themselves for allowing it to happen. But I think they all knew like they were afraid of him. I think so, too. You know, they didn't know what he was capable of.

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Well, so it's complicated. I think they've got him on the transportation to engage in prostitution count. That's the third count. It's only got a year's penalty, but he's got multiple potential offenses on it. But it's the least serious of the charges brought against him. They've had so much testimony that he did pay prostitutes. She was calling. what was it called? Like cowboys for angels.

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Well, we went to space and we didn't fake Meghan Markle life. Maybe next we need to make a phone call to cowboys for angels and see who shows up. Maybe we'll meet him. So anyway, they've proven beyond a doubt that he was engaging in hiring and transporting prostitutes. But you've got sex trafficking by fraud or coercion is the middle count. And originally I thought that the...

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Yes, Maureen Callahan and my take on Megan Markle's ridiculous Netflix show, our own homemade parody of it, has a third and final part, and you will see it today here only. Here to discuss it all and more, the host of the new hit podcast, The Nerve with Maureen Callahan, the lady herself on the MK Media Podcast Network, and she's a columnist for the Daily Mail too.

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The sex trafficking involved the prostitute and the coercion involved Cassie. Like he was kind of forcing Cassie to be in this room and no question there was a sex worker in there. But I've since come to understand from sources close to the case, that's not it. That it's...

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Cassie who's been sex trafficked in the theory of the prosecutors that it's that they are arguing he by coercion or fraud, et cetera. But I think they're going with coercion. forced her to engage in these freak offs, not every single time, but many, many times.

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And even during certain times on like the backend, maybe she was there voluntarily in the front end, but then, you know, but overall, I think they're going to argue that right after the beginning of the relationship, things switched to a place where she did not want to be doing this. And she was only there because she was afraid of him or he was threatening her.

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That's donewithdebt.com, donewithdebt.com. A horrifying anti-Semitic incident Wednesday night in Washington, D.C. A young couple murdered in what law enforcement believes is a targeted attack. The victims, 30-year-old Yaron Lashinsky and 26-year-old Sarah Milgram, romantic partners and staffers at the Israeli embassy, attending an event at the Capitol Jewish Museum.

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Around 9 p.m., the suspect, Elias Rodriguez, allegedly walked past four individuals, including the couple, then brandished a handgun, shooting at their backs. According to the affidavit, once the victims fell to the ground, the suspect advanced toward them, firing again. As Ms. Milgram attempted to crawl away, quote, he followed behind her and fired again.

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The suspect then entering the Jewish Museum after a witness said he ditched the gun in some bushes. Here's more of the witness describing the aftermath to Fox 5 News.

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A young couple murdered in a horrific incident of anti-Semitism. Musician Kid Cudi takes the stand in the Sean Diddy Combs criminal trial.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Friday, May 23rd, 2025, and this is your AM Update.

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Video from the scene showing the alleged killer in cuffs pulled from the building by police.

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As for the victims, Mr. Lashensky had been planning to propose to Ms. Milgram next week during a trip to meet Lashensky's family in Jerusalem, according to Israel's ambassador to the U.S. He had purchased the ring. The couple met a year and a half ago while working at the Israeli embassy in Washington.

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Sarah Milgram, who was Jewish, grew up in Kansas and worked in the public diplomacy department of the embassy. The American Jewish Committee, which hosted the young diplomat's reception where she was killed, describing her as, quote, warm and compassionate, committed to peace building, and passionate about sustainability and people-to-people relations.

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Her father telling the New York Times, Milgram once worked in Israel for an organization connecting young Israelis and Palestinians. Mr. Lashinsky was born in Germany, moving to Israel as a teenager. He worked as a research assistant at the embassy.

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The Israeli ambassador to Germany, who had once been his professor, calling him, quote, a Christian, a true lover of Israel, served in the IDF and chose to dedicate his life to the state of Israel and the Zionist cause. He embodied the Judeo-Christian values and set an example for young people worldwide.

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Attorney General Pam Bondi in a Wednesday night press briefing promising law enforcement is fully engaged.

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The suspect is facing charges including murder of foreign officials, causing the death of a person through the use of a firearm, discharge of a firearm during a crime of violence, and two counts of first-degree murder.

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HHS releases a startling report on the health epidemic plaguing America's children, identifying four key drivers of chronic illness. And the Trump administration with a bold move against Harvard University in the ongoing battle to enforce civil rights on campus. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update. It was not supposed to get this bad.

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The New York Post reporting the suspect was once tied to the Party for Socialism and Liberation, the group confirming the link but saying the association ended in 2017 and condemning the shooting. The Post also reporting the suspect participated in a 2017 Black Lives Matter protest in Chicago.

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an apparent manifesto circulating online with the shooter's name attached, the 900-word statement dated one day before the attack, in which the author rails about, quote, atrocities committed by Israelis against Palestine. President Trump responding to the attack in a Truth Social post, quote, these horrible D.C. killings based obviously on anti-Semitism must end now.

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Hatred and radicalism have no place in the U.S.A., Condolences to the families of the victims. So sad that such things as this can happen. God bless you all. Coming up, musician Kid Cudi called to the stand in the Sean Diddy Combs criminal trial, at one point describing the music mogul as a Marvel supervillain.

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Order directly from RiverbendRanch.com. Use promo code Megan to get 20 bucks off your first order. That's RiverbendRanch.com, code Megan. And be prepared. Once you taste it, you're going to be coming back for more. Again, that's RiverbendRanch.com, code Megan. Musician Kid Cuddy, whose real name is Scott Miscuddy, called to testify on Wednesday in the Sean Diddy Combs criminal trial.

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Kid Cudi is a former boyfriend of star witness Cassie Ventura. Last week, Ventura testified to participating in the Diddy freak-offs, extended sex events with sex workers allegedly under Diddy's direction, while she was in a relationship for a time with Kid Cudi. Ventura telling the court she viewed the freak-offs as a job.

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Ventura admitted to keeping a burner phone in order to keep her relationship with Kid Cudi private from Combs. According to Ventura, Combs discovered her burner phone during a freak-off alerting him to the relationship with Kid Cudi. Ventura testified that Combs threatened to blow up Kid Cudi's car when he found out, prosecutors asking Kid Cudi about the car incident on Thursday.

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The witness telling prosecutors in January of 2012, he got a phone call from his dog watcher saying his car was on fire. Kid Cudi describing the damage saying, quote, it looks like the top of my Porsche was cut open and that's where the Molotov cocktail was put in.

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After the car fire, Kid Cuddy telling prosecutors he contacted Combs, quote, he had been wanting to talk to me, so after the fire, I was like, this is getting out of hand. I need to talk to him. Combs' staff set up a meeting at a private club. Kid Cuddy telling prosecutors, quote, Sean Combs was standing there, staring out the window with his hands behind his back like a Marvel supervillain.

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The witness telling prosecutors he believed the relationship between Ventura and Combs had ended. Kid Cudi also testifying to asking Combs about his car, telling the court when he asked about the car, Combs responding, quote, I don't know what you're talking about.

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On cross-examination, the witness testifying that Ventura told him that Combs was physically abusive but did not reveal any sexual abuse. The defense attorney suggesting Ventura lived a double life and was playing both Kid Cudi and Combs. Kid Cudi agreed. On redirect, Kid Cudi telling prosecutors he and Ventura broke up in December 2011 because he was concerned for her safety as well as his own.

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Quote, I knew Sean Combs was violent. Kid Cudi also telling prosecutors he believed Combs was lying when he told Cudi he did not know what happened to his car. Kid Cudi's testimony is part of the prosecution's effort to establish a broader pattern of violent and coercive behavior, central to their case that Combs was running a criminal enterprise.

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Combs is charged with racketeering conspiracy, sex trafficking by force fraud or coercion, and transportation to engage in prostitution. Under racketeering laws, prosecutors must prove Combs committed at least two underlying crimes, which can include arson, forced labor, kidnapping, obstruction of justice, and more. Combs pleading not guilty to all charges. If convicted, he'll face life in prison.

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HHS releasing a new report identifying four key drivers of America's childhood chronic disease crisis. Poor diet, exposure to environmental chemicals, lack of physical activity and chronic stress, and over-medicalization.

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The report sounding the alarm, quote, Today's children are the sixth generation in American history in terms of chronic disease, and these preventable trends continue to worsen each year. President Trump reading out some of the report's alarming findings said, in a Make America Healthy Again roundtable.

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Among the leading culprits of the chronic disease epidemic, ultra-processed foods. The report finding nearly 70% of children's daily calories come from these products, leading to poor nutrition and excessive calorie intake. It also flags growing exposure to harmful chemicals, citing pesticides as a major concern.

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On glyphosate, a widely used herbicide, the report references studies linking it to reproductive disorders, cancer, liver inflammation, and metabolic damage. Declining physical activity, identifying as another red flag, the report calls children's activity level in the digital age a crisis, noting over 70% of children between 6 and 17 fail to meet federal physical activity guidelines.

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a trend tied to reduced in-school recess and skyrocketing screen time. And finally, over-medicalization. The report finding one in five kids estimated to have taken a prescription drug in the past 30 days.

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The report saying the issue needs to be studied more, but calling it, quote, a concerning trend of over-prescribing medications to children, often driven by conflicts of interest in medical research, regulation, and practice. This marks an initial assessment A full policy strategy aimed at addressing these findings is expected in August.

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Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem on Thursday announcing Harvard University will no longer be permitted to enroll international students, meaning any non-citizen student will be required to transfer to maintain their student visa. The secretary offering to reinstate the university's student and exchange visitor program if the school complies with Homeland Security requests, within 72 hours.

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DHS is requesting records related to any illegal, dangerous, or violent activity or threats made by any foreign students, as well as any video or audio footage of protest activity on or off campus within the past five years. Secretary Noem informing the university in a letter, quote, this action should not surprise you.

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and is the unfortunate result of Harvard's failure to comply with simple reporting requirements. Harvard has been resisting full compliance with the administration's recent request for information about international students, ultimately claiming that only a few students' data would be responsive.

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DHS now accusing the Ivy League University of failure to comply with simple reporting requirements while, quote, perpetuating an unsafe campus environment, that is hostile to Jewish students, promotes pro-Hamas sympathies, and employs racist DEI policies. As a result of the move, Harvard is prohibited from allowing anyone on academic or exchange visas for the 2025-2026 school year.

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Any students currently enrolled on those visas will have to transfer to another school to maintain their legal status. In the 2024-25 school year, there were about 6,800 international students at Harvard, approximately 27% of Harvard's enrollment.

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The move is the latest in the Trump administration's effort to crack down on illegal displays of on-campus anti-Semitism and hold universities accountable for failing to enforce federal law. A legal challenge is expected. That'll do it for your AM Update. I'm Megyn Kelly.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. Oh, we've got some major updates in the Brian Kohlberger case out in Idaho and his upcoming trial, which is still set for this August. I mean, at one point it seemed so far away, didn't it? And now we're coming up on it.

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And there were two other roommates in the house. Okay, two other roommates in the house. And we are learning so much more about them and what they did or did not do. I don't even know how to process it. All this as the prosecution releases a new photo of Brian Kohlberger, hours after the quadruple murders. And it is the most chilling thing I have seen in years. I can't stop looking at it.

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Yeah, I'm going to read for the audience what we have now on the text messages between the two surviving roommates, Dylan Mortensen and Bethany Funk, from 4.22 to 4.24 a.m. And we know that the murders happened between 4 a.m. and 4.17 a.m. So this is right after. Clearly, it appears Dylan started texting Bethany right after she saw the intruder. So DM to BF. No one is answering.

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Not sure what preceded this. This is what we have. DM to BF. I'm really confused right now. DM to Kaylee Gonsalves, who we now know is upstairs deceased. Kaylee, DM to Gonsalves again. What's going on? Then Bethany texts to DM. Yeah, dude. WTF. Then Bethany to Dylan. Zanna was wearing all black. I don't understand why she would say that. Then Dylan to Bethany. I'm freaking out right now.

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Then Dylan to Bethany. No, it's like a ski mask almost, she says. Bethany to Dylan. STFU. You know, shut the F-U-F up. Bethany to DM. Actually, DM to BF. Like he had something over... is for head and little mouth. This is changing. I mean, really, this sounds like she says ski mask. What she later told the cops was like a COVID mask. Here's Dylan back to Bethany. I'm not kidding.

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I'm so freaked out. Bethany to Dylan. So am I. Dylan to Bethany. My phone is going to die. Bethany to Dylan. Come to my room. Run. Run. down here. And then we understand that's what she did. So they go together into the same room, but then, but then we have to talk about the texts the next morning, because what, what we see is that, um, okay. At seven 30, the next morning, um,

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Bethany called her father at 730 in the morning. She called her father, Howard. I don't get how we get past 8 a.m. before a police officer or other adult showed up at that house.

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And there's more. There's more. Bethany called her father at 7.30 the next morning. She also made several other phone calls before the 911 call and also took photos between 8.41 and 8.42. At 8.05, Dylan, switching over from Bethany to Dylan now, began using Instagram. Between 8.05 and 11.57 a.m., Dylan's cell phone accessed Instagram, Snapchat,

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Yik Yak and TikTok, according to a filing from the defense. Now, that could be

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dylan trying to see whether zanna or anyone else has been on and posted to those apps i mean that could absolutely be one girl because they were very prolific social media posters trying to see like i would believe they were just looking for diversions what would be most interesting and i think the defense will want to get a

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Well, one of them, I'm not sure which of the roommates, but one of them called their father at 1139 a.m. So again, you know, either again, if it was the one gal who'd already called her father or for the first time. And so that was 1139. And then it was 1155 that they called the 911 operator. So it seems like perhaps. OK, so it was Bethany who called her father at 730 a.m.

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We also now finally, finally have the 911 call that was made from this house on 1122 King Street. That's the murder house, which for all this time they've been withholding from us. Why? We didn't understand. There's a lot in there. And nobody has been following this case closer than Howard Bloom. He's a journalist.

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And again, we believe it was Bethany who called 911 eventually. And then at 1139, there was another call to a father. By 1155, they were calling 911. So perhaps in that last call to the father, he was like, call 911.

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All right, now we'll get on to what the defense is revealing, what we're learning about Kohlberger in a minute, which is even more fascinating than this, if that's possible. But I just want to spend one minute first on these 911 calls and what's going on with the roommates, because Steve Gonsalves, who's Kaylee's father, has reacted.

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He went on News Nation on Friday to that call, listening to the four-minute call that we all just did. Here is SOP 51.

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He also spoke to Hunter Johnson. You know, you're describing him as behaving heroically, who went over there and actually did apparently open up the door and see his best friend, Ethan Chapin, dead, along with his friend, Zanna Cronodal. Steve Gonsalves spoke to that as well on News Nation on Friday. Take a listen.

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That's awful. But Howard, you know, he raises a good point in that here we are with the benefit of 2020 hindsight, knowing what happened in that house that night, those girls did not know. And your mind would not go to a murderer came in here and killed everyone. You know, they probably would go to, I sensed danger and I saw someone strange, but I

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you know, our instincts are generally like, don't get everybody spun up for nothing. Like calm down. Right. Like it's probably a prank.

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Okay, now let's talk about Kohlberger because the stuff on him is just chilling. incredibly, we have now seen a photo, okay, that's been released of Brian Kohlberger. They say this was taken from his own phone, all right? They've revealed now that the state intends to introduce a photograph of Brian Kohlberger.

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It's a selfie that he took from his own phone the night of the murders, the morning after. Oh my God, look at it. The murders took place between 4 and 4, 17 a.m. in the early morning hours of November 13th. This is from 1130 a.m. This would have been six hours after he allegedly committed quadruple murder, which he denies. He looks bloodless.

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He looks like a vampire with no color whatsoever in his face. He looks gaunt and he is giving the thumbs up sign. What in the hell is this, Howard?

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Let's put it back up there. I hadn't been looking at it for that purpose. But yes, it does show some bushy eyebrows. Keep going.

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Clearly, if this was it's got psycho vibes, it's definitely got psycho vibes from the movie Psycho in the shower. Right. With the guy committed a murder with a knife like he's wearing all white. It's buttoned up to the top. It's it almost feels like a murderer trolling us. And we know from the police affidavit, Howard, that this would have been taken about an hour after he went back to

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Two, if the cops theory of the case is right, based on police data and cell phone data, he went back to the site of the murders around nine thirty in the morning and apparently checked on the scene. And we know now, of course, nothing was happening at the scene at that time. We inside the girls may have been texting, but the police had not yet been alerted. And look at him.

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Then he appears to have gone back home, gone into his bathroom and taken this bizarre selfie.

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Mm hmm. So that I can't stop looking at it. This is just so deeply disturbing. But that's not the worst thing that's happened to Brian Kohlberger over the past couple of years as the case against him has been developed. This may be I mean, you and I've talked many times about what we think of the evidence. I think we both think that.

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One of, if not, well, the two most problematic things, the DNA on the knife sheath, which has been affirmatively linked to be, it is Brian Kohlberger's.

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And also the fact that when they arrested him at his parents' home in the Poconos a few weeks later, he was stuffing his trash into little Ziploc baggies with the intention of disposing it, we believe, into the neighbor's trash, which is what he'd been doing, according to the cops, over the past few nights. So those are bad, bad, bad facts for him. But so is the latest data on the K-Bar knife.

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They've never found the murder weapon. They found the knife sheath in the bed with the two girls, Kaylee and Maddie. And it had touch DNA on the knife snap, the snap of the sheath, which they then linked, thanks to genetic genealogy trees, back to the father of Brian Kohlberger, which is then what got them to Brian Kohlberger, who was only 10 miles away.

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Then once they got him in custody, they did an affirmative DNA test of his cheek swab. And that was 100 percent plus whatever the numbers are there astronomically in the favor of it being him and his DNA on that knife sheath snap. But now they are revealing that they may not have found the murder weapon, Howard, but they certainly found some incriminating things on Brian Kohlberger's Amazon.

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Wow. I mean, they would feel an obligation, I think, to do it. I just feel like the whole country has, you know, been interested in this case. These family members, the sister in particular, I think there are two sisters. They I just feel like they'd have to do what's right if they knew it. But we'll find out. The thing about Amazon is just so fascinating.

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Well, so it's very interesting that he would have potentially gone back on Amazon searching for another K-bar knife and knife sheath. You could go many directions with that, like he lost the knife sheath and didn't have the knife anymore because he disposed of it. It was the murder weapon. And therefore, in case the police ever came knocking, he wanted to have

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That knife that they would see in his Amazon history he purchased back in March before he got there, still sitting in his room without any traces of blood on it. See, I'm a good little boy. I still have my knife and it's not anybody's murder weapon. Or you could make the case he had more murders in store that he considered doing it again.

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Do you remember the time frame off the top of your head where he started to search on Amazon for a new K-bar knife?

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That is such a stretch. I mean, what I'm gleaning from what's getting released now is the defense knows it's, I don't want to say it has lost, but it's got an enormous uphill battle.

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And you tell me, because you've been following it so closely, it appears to me they're now just doing what they can to mitigate the expected bad result as opposed to truly try to get a not guilty, which I'm sure they'd love, but I think they're getting realistic.

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So you think they're now, because now they're saying he's on the autism spectrum, that he has obsessive compulsive disorder and that he has something called developmental coordination disorder. And so is the purpose of saying all that I mean, I don't know how you'd use that to plead insanity. That's a long leap to go from that stuff to insanity.

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Or is the purpose of that just to be like a mitigating factor to avoid death penalty?

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Do you think there's any chance he's saying something behind the scenes like, I will testify, and they're getting ready to use these things to say, Your Honor, you can't let him do this. It's definitely against his interests, and we need to be able to overrule him in this fundamental right he has.

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All right, let's kick it off with a 911 call. It is four minutes. We are going to listen to the whole thing. Play it.

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And maybe getting all this, if they can get all these disorders, alleged disorders into the record without him testifying, it mitigates some of the other things that you and I have talked about that may come in, like his increasingly dissembling behavior in the classroom at Washington State, the antagonism of his professors and teachers.

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the weird potential stalking of one of his female students and you know volunteering to help put her security cameras in and not being able to take a hint like they may be trying to i mean none of this stuff explains that everybody listening to this knows somebody who's on the autism spectrum who doesn't do any of that stuff you can be totally normal and be on the autism spectrum you might just be like a little socially awkward not none of that never mind ocd which is not like the

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And I don't know what developmental coordination disorder is, but it certainly doesn't seem like it would explain any of that stuff. But there's a lot of very bizarre Kohlberger behavior to explain.

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The evidence of where his car was on the night in question is starting to shore up as well. We saw the judge in the case, Judge Hippler, which, again, is just a name. You got really got to hit the P when you say that hip. It's hip. Hippler. I don't understand why people keep these names that are so controversial or weird. Like, I don't get it. I would change my name.

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That's right. I guess we can forgive defense attorney Ann Taylor. You know, she didn't when her parents when she was a kid, her parents might not know what was going to happen there. Anyway, Hippler.

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just denied Kohlberger's request to bring in, uh, defense experts who he wanted to offer testimony against both the Amazon shopping trip, who, as you point out, I guess they were going to have their experts say, Oh no, it was just like when you order a vitamin and they assume your vitamin has run out and they send you a tickler, like here are your vitamins.

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Like here's another knife just in case you were planning on killing anything else. Um, and, that's one. And, but also they wanted to bring in an expert, uh, to talk about his movements on the night in question. And Hippler said, no, Hippler said you can have, um, you can have that done by, uh, streaming video streaming during the hearing.

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And, or he said, if we need to hear directly from the witnesses, we can, um, potentially have an affidavit or a written declaration. But, uh, Having looked at the record of the car, where it's been, I'm looking at the map, and what it's basically going to show is he drove directly to their houses. It's showing pretty much a straight line once he got near the house of going right to their houses.

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So what now? Here we are, well, five months out from trial. What are the odds this does go to trial, Howard? Or do you think it actually has a chance of pleading out to I mean, I can't imagine the prosecution with a case like this would take anything other than a murder one confession and possibly spare him the death penalty. But what are the odds?

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I mean, I believe he did it and I would have no problem if a jury finds him guilty of seeing that happen. I don't know. The firing squad, you hate to like think about it, but like, would it really be so bad to be in front? I feel like a firing squad in some ways may be more humane than like the electric chair. I don't... What's the debate about that?

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Information about this case had been coming out at a snail's pace, oh my God, until now. I've been following the case and talking with Howard Bloom, you guys know him by this point, my team about it, and even I am just blown away by what just got released. In the last week, we learned more about how Kohlberger may have obtained the knife prosecutors allege he used.

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Do you know how they do the firing squad? I think we talked about this once before. Did you say they have multiple shooters so you don't know if you're the one who fired the fatal shot?

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Wow. God, when you really start, it's just like whenever I start to hear about the death penalty, I hear about the crime and I think I'm fine with it. Do it. I'll pull the trigger myself. And then when you start to talk about the actual details of the state taking someone's life, even someone as disgusting as this. I start to get uncomfortable with it. And I think about my Catholic faith.

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It's just one of those issues. I don't know. I still, net, net, I'm in favor of the death penalty. Howard, I am in favor of you very much for all the great work you've been doing on this case and keeping us up to date like nobody else. Thank you.

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Wow. Incredibly disturbing. Just so the audience understands that the murders happened at 4 a.m. That call did not get placed until almost noon the next morning, 1155 a.m. And for all this time, they have not released the 911 call. It wasn't until this week we finally got to hear it. We believe...

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Not totally confirmed, but we believe that the girl who made the call initially was Bethany Funk, one of the two roommates who survived. The other roommate is named Dylan Mortensen. She's the one who saw an intruder, which they were trying to tell the 911 operator, who wasn't in the mood to talk about what happened the night before.

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in the heinous act of killing four innocent college students in Moscow, Idaho. It happened in November 2022. It happened within a 12 to 17 minute period at 4 a.m. He was a teaching assistant and Ph.D. student at the nearby Washington State and Washington University, and they were all students involved.

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But those are the two surviving roommates, so we believe that's Bethany Funk, who could barely get... sentences out. And Howard, you know, the remarkable thing, of course, is that they're talking about their roommate having been drunk and she isn't waking up.

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And just the one roommate, they're not, I am assuming that they had found Zanna Kernodle, who was on the second floor with her boyfriend, Ethan, because they are not saying four They only had three of the female roommates, but they're not saying four of our friends are dead. They're saying one girl's passed out and she was drunk last night. We think she's dead.

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Yeah, well, I was just going to say it's very eerie so that she she calls and says something is happening. And they say one of the roommates is passed out. And they're clearly referring to Xander Cronodal because when she says how old is she, she says she's 20. And both Kaylee and Maddie were 21. And when you're that age, you know exactly the number of years you are. You know what I mean?

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Like your age means a lot to you, especially when you're 20 versus 21. College roommates would absolutely have all the other ages in their heads of their roommates. And so she's saying she's 20. So she clearly found Zanna. But where was Ethan?

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Because our understanding was, if memory serves, I didn't go back and look this up, that he was found closer to the doorway of the bedroom that he was in with Zanna. They don't mention him.

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at Idaho, and he is alleged to have come to their home in the middle of the night, killed the two best friends, Madison Mogan and Kaylee Gonsalves, who were sleeping in a bed together, as female best friends often do, as well as Zanna Kurnodal, and her boyfriend, Ethan Chapin, who were in a different room on the second floor. The two girls on the third, Zanna and Ethan on the second.

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difficult situation makes more sense because they're not saying there's blood everywhere. You know, you and I have talked about how there was so much blood. It seeped through the walls of the house. They, they're not saying that they're like, we're not sure she, she was drunk last night. She may be passed out. So clearly, but, but they did call nine one one.

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And so they clearly thought something was wrong. Maybe it was that she wasn't responding to texts and she wasn't, I don't know why they're not talking about Kaylee and Maddie. Kaylee, I think, wasn't even supposed to be there that night. She'd stayed over. She had moved out, but she was back visiting Maddie. But they're not mentioning Maddie.

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Nobody seems to be aware that there also might be an issue on the third floor. All of it is just so strange. And then we have to talk about the thing you just mentioned, which is the text messages that morning. But first, make your point. Go ahead.

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Unbelievable. So you've got now we know this is all new. You've got the two surviving witnesses because all along we knew that Dylan had seen the perpetrator, had seen an intruder that night wearing a covid type mask with bushy eyebrows around six feet tall in the house at four a.m. in the four a.m. hour. And that. She saw him. It was unclear whether he saw her, but she froze. He left.

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She went back into her room and we knew that they didn't call 911 until noon the next day. So eight hours passed before she calls 911. And it's been one of the big mysteries in this case. Why didn't she call 911? She saw an intruder in the house in the middle of the night. And we know from the police affidavit, she said she was in a frozen shock phase. And that's why she didn't call.

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But that just seemed very strange that it would take you eight hours, like you eventually would call. But then they were saying, well, it was a neighbor that came in and called. And you mentioned Hunter. Yes, he did come in and call. But we understand that was Bethany. And we think Dylan was also involved. So these two roommates now we know were texting, were scared, were in the...

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The one ran to the other one's room. They were in there hiding. And it appears that they may have gotten a hold of Hunter to come over to help check things out. But we still don't really understand the delay, why that didn't happen earlier than noon.

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Completely abolishing the Department of Ed will require an act of Congress not likely to happen under the current slim Republican majorities. The order will instead, quote, begin to eliminate the department. Last week, Education Secretary Linda McMahon announcing a reduction in workforce amounting to half of the department's employees.

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President Trump announcing an executive order aimed at shuttering the Department of Education.

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Prior to the new order, the DOE was responsible for developing federal education guidelines and initiatives like Common Core, enforcing civil rights compliance in schools, and administering federal student aid. Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt describing to reporters Thursday morning what tasks will remain under the department.

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President Trump saying Pell Grants, a common form of undergraduate aid and Title I funding allocated toward children with disabilities, will be preserved in full and eventually handed over to other agencies. The details of how exactly the Trump administration plans to hand education back to the states remain unclear.

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Randy Weingarten, president of the American Federation of Teachers and critic of the move, outlining her fears to left-wing journalist Molly Jong Fast.

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They'll use it for vouchers. Math and reading scores for 13 year olds have fallen to the lowest level in decades. Six in 10 fourth graders are not proficient in math and standardized test scores have shown little to no improvement. In fact, per-pupil spending has risen by more than 245% since the 1970s, with test scores rising less than 2%.

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Critics say federal involvement in education caused less competition, innovation, and now students will have more choice and taxpayers will have more of their own money. A Georgetown University researcher on a student visa detained by Homeland Security, part of a broader crackdown by the Trump administration on foreign students supporting causes deemed counter to U.S. foreign policy.

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RFKJ announcing a sweeping review of industry food standards aimed at ridding the food supply of potentially harmful ingredients. A Georgetown researcher on a student visa arrested by Homeland Security. The reporting largely sympathetic to the student, glossing over a key detail about his personal life.

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Badr Khan Suri, an Indian national, arrested outside of his home in Arlington, Virginia, on Monday night. Assistant Secretary of Homeland Security Tricia McLaughlin posting on X, Suri was a foreign exchange student at Georgetown University, actively spreading Hamas propaganda and promoting anti-Semitism on social media.

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The statement also claiming Mr. Suri has close ties to a senior advisor to Hamas, rendering him deportable under the Immigration and Nationality Act. His lawyer has since filed a lawsuit demanding his immediate release. Media reporting surrounding the case largely sympathetic to Mr. Suri.

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Politico, the headline, Trump is seeking to deport another academic who is legally in the country, lawyer says. The AP, Georgetown scholar, detained over American wife's Palestinian ties, lawyer says. MSNBC, Trump administration seeks to deport Georgetown University student with no apparent criminal record. Well, it's not quite that simple.

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In the petition for release obtained by Politico, Mr. Suri's lawyer arguing that his client is being punished because his wife, a U.S. citizen, is Palestinian. Is that it? His lawyer, Hassan Ahmed, also claiming the government suspects Mr. Suri and his wife oppose U.S. foreign policy toward Israel. Again, is it quite that simple? Badr Khan Suri is married to Mafizi Salah,

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also a Georgetown University student. A February investigation from National Review identifying her as the daughter of Ahmed Youssef, a former advisor for Hamas, a terrorist organization. National Review reporting Ms. Salah, quote, "...has been open about her own role with the Hamas government.

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She served with the Hamas government's Committee to Break the Siege in Gaza, which happened to be chaired by her father." Ms. Salah's father is co-author of a book titled The End of the Jewish State. Just a matter of time. A review of her own social media reveals the glorification of Hamas and the atrocities they committed on October 7th.

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Just days after the terror attack resulting in the slaughter. Of 1,200 Israelis and the kidnapping of approximately 250 people, including Americans, Ms. Salah posted on Facebook an image of a Palestinian hang glider, a reference to the vehicles used to infiltrate Israel, with the caption, We shall prevail. In a July post on Instagram, Ms. Salah writing in Arabic, America is the plague.

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Do you believe these press reports? Scholar detained over American wife's Palestinian ties. It's a little more complicated than that, AP. Another Instagram post showing images of Israeli hostages in Gaza saying their smiles and healthy appearance indicated how nicely they were treated. I'm sure it was a real joy.

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Many freed hostages have spoken out about their treatment after they were returned back safely to Israel.

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It's unclear how exactly or when the daughter of a Hamas advisor was able to obtain U.S. citizenship. The State Department has yet to publicly identify specific actions taken by Mr. Suri to spread Hamas propaganda. A Georgetown University spokesperson saying, quote, we are not aware of him engaging in any illegal activity and we have not received a reason for his detention.

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Mr. Suri is currently held in a Texas detention center. His deportation proceedings set for May. Secretary of Health and Human Services, RFKJ, announcing a complete review of GRAS, or Generally Recognized as Safe, standards in the food industry. Mr. Kennedy describing on Fox News the evolution of GRAS standards since their inception in the 1950s.

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Food companies are not, in fact, required to submit a grass notice to the FDA when introducing a new chemical. That reporting? Entirely voluntary. A 2022 analysis by consumer watchdog group, the Environmental Working Group, finding since 2000, food and chemical companies have petitioned the FDA just 10 times to approve a new substance.

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In that same time period, the EWA says more than 98% of the at least 766 new food chemicals were not approved by the FDA at all. CBS News reporting there are at least 950 substances in our food that are not permitted in Europe. Chemicals linked to health concerns show up in hundreds of products that line the shelves of American supermarkets.

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President Trump's nominee to head the FDA, Dr. Marty McCary of Johns Hopkins, at his confirmation hearing connecting the dots between childhood illness and chemicals in the food industry.

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RFKJ's sweeping review of grass standards comes just two weeks after a closed-door meeting with the heads of major food companies. Secretary Kennedy made clear artificial food dyes must be phased out by the end of his term. Industry leaders were urged... to take proactive steps to reformulate their products before any regulatory action. Those leaders reportedly resistant to the move.

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A memo from the Consumer Brands Association warning a ban on food dyes threatens the industry's reliance on cheap, vibrant dyes to maintain product appeal and affordability. Many of these same companies already sell similar products in European markets, which have far more restrictions, with reformulated recipes to meet safety standards.

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An American citizen declared by the State Department as wrongfully detained by the Taliban, returning back to the United States after more than two years in custody. George Glesman, an airline mechanic from Atlanta, Georgia, captured by the Taliban's intelligence service in December 2022.

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The Foley Foundation, an advocacy organization for Americans detained overseas, says Mr. Glesman, 66 years old, was traveling in Afghanistan as a tourist. The Taliban held Mr. Glesman without any charges.

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Under President Biden, the Taliban offered the release of Mr. Glesman and another American, but only in exchange for three Taliban members in American custody, including an al-Qaeda aide held in Guantanamo Bay. The Wall Street Journal reporting the Taliban now agreeing to release Mr. Glezman in exchange for improved relations with Washington.

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The Taliban has no diplomatic relations with the U.S., nor is it recognized as the official government of Afghanistan. Mr. Glezman's release was brokered by the Qatari government. The talks took place between U.S. Special Envoy for Hostage Affairs Adam Bowler and Taliban officials in Kabul.

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The New York Times reporting the meeting between American and Taliban officials was the first known in-person contact of any significance between the two governments since President Trump's return to office. The Trump administration fulfilling a long-awaited campaign promise, the release of the JFK files.

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On Tuesday, the documents, totaling about 60,000, released to the public. A newly unredacted memo from a special assistant, Arthur Schlesinger, to President JFK, criticizing the CIA for overusing the State Department to cover for its agents in other countries.

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Mr. Schlesinger informing President Kennedy the number of undercover CIA agents, quote, outnumbers regular State Department personnel in some countries. Another unredacted document from 1964 revealing the CIA did not have any direct agents operating in Cuba despite Cold War tensions. This revelation particularly significant in the context of the failed U.S.-backed Bay of Pigs invasion in 1961.

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a disastrous attempt to overthrow Cuban leader Fidel Castro. Spotty intelligence, a key factor identified in the failure of that invasion attempt, the fiasco deeply damaging President Kennedy's trust in the CIA. The New York Times reporting in 1966,

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A frustrated President Kennedy telling an aide in the aftermath of the debacle, quote, I want to splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds.

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Despite the new documents providing a clearer look at tensions between President Kennedy and the CIA, The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times and others agreeing with the conclusion brought to us by The Washington Post, quote, So far, nothing upends the notion that Lee Harvey Oswald was the lone gunman. And that'll do it for your AM Update. I'm Megyn Kelly.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey, everybody. I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. Today, what a treat we have for you. We have got first Mike Walsh. He's the National Security Advisor. And man, does he have a lot on his plate. There is so much happening in the world of foreign policy right now.

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Yeah, I mean, they call it surrender. You heard them comparing this to a Neville Chamberlain situation. Peace in our time. There's a debate unfolding right now between Neil Ferguson, who's a good man, conservative, and JD Vance online about whether this is just giving it all up. You know, whether this is a surrender. It's always easy to get peace if you surrender.

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So how much of a concern in this negotiation is- And President Trump, by the way,

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How much, if at all, does the threat of China play in all this? Because there's a lot of thinking that it would be great if we actually could have a better relationship with Russia and focus on what many view to be our biggest adversary or potential, which is China. And right now, what we've seen over the past three years with this war is those two getting closer and the United States being out.

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know that arguably is not a bad thing we need to clear up this issue of a major war in europe to get to that point maybe i'm wrong but as a sort of lay person who has never served overseas i it to me it looks like look it's lost it's not that anybody won it or anybody really lost it the ukraine war but you know

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Volodymyr Zelenskyy limited the Russian gains to where he did right and now they've been at a stalemate and now we're just seeing the death toll rise and the and the price rise and at some point somebody's gotta if not cry uncle just say let's get out now let's let's cut the losses at this point because it's not going anywhere from here other than more death and destruction

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I mean, the left is trying to spin this as though he actually thinks Ukraine actually started it.

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It's so awful. I feel like those Biba's little boys were like the face of this thing. And there are so many mothers who I know watch this show and who I talk to via Twitter and so on, who've just been praying, you know, hoping beyond hope that maybe they were lying about the babies being dead. They've been claiming an Israeli airstrike killed them. There's zero evidence of that.

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willing uh to to step out with that despicable anti-semitic i mean they are but they are because it's not like we didn't know on 10 8 and 10 9 and 10 10 of 23 what they had done you know the reports of them burning babies were all over the airwaves and they were still on the college campuses there's something wrong you know who does not and refuses to have a two-state solution hamas

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These people cheering those two babies' coffins like it was Mardi Gras, you think these are not people we can deal with. I don't blame Egypt and Jordan for not wanting them. We wouldn't take them. Why would we take them? So how on earth does Trump get any country to take that group of people long-term?

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on all fronts domestic international and there's a lot happening when it comes to the international situation i mean it's like we were just talking before we got started oh yeah then there's china which hasn't been in the news really in the past couple of weeks so let's start with what is in the news and today the dominant story is ukraine and whether things are deteriorating now between uh president trump and volodymyr zelensky there seems to be an escalating

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But this is my question to you. is do you think what's happening now is what Trump intended to have happen, which is we're not necessarily going in there to build Gaziera, but we were hoping to start a conversation where the Middle Eastern countries would say, we might have a better idea. Let us handle it and get a little bit more aggressive, which they've been hands off about it.

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So does this thing go forward into phase two of the ceasefire? Because it turns out that Hamas did not return at least one of the bodies that they said they were going to, the mother of those two babies. It was a different corpse. I mean, it's just sick.

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Which is trickier? Which situation that we spent this half hour talking about, you know, keeps you up more at night?

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Slight war of words between the two of them. Zelensky's complaining he wasn't brought in on the negotiation. Trump called him a dictator. Even some Republicans said that went too far. What do you make of it?

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You're so good at it. And I knew you were young. You're 27. I didn't know you were the youngest ever in this job.

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I don't know why, but they did. college-age student from New Hampshire, which isn't the reddest of states, and a non-political family wind up voting Trump in 16. Not like voting for him this time around.

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How so? Because people ask that all the time. Do I tell my college student to fight openly for his or her beliefs or do I have them go along to get along, get the A's, get into the best law school, med school, business school by playing the game until you have more liberty? Yeah. Where do you fall?

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So I know the past couple of years before you went into the White House, you were doing campaign work and comms work for Trump. But what about in the interim? Like what'd you do after Trump 1.0?

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Well, you're a nicer person than I am. I definitely do not have respect for anybody who puts their name on a ballot. I can think of several people who never should have done that. That's true. Well, there's some people, yeah. But you're generous. All right, so at the same time, you're building a family life. You fall in love. I didn't know until today that you married a man who's a lot older. Yes.

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Yeah. Now, we talked about this a little backstage at the Super Bowl, but how are you handling, I mean, true new motherhood, it's not even a year, and this crazy job?

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That's my Nana who died at 101. She was in her elderly years, not that able to like get out and around. So if I had a important court argument that was on tape, I would show it to her and she would get so mad at the judges. She didn't think that they should be allowed to ask me any questions. She didn't like opposing counsel. Why is he saying that about you? They don't totally get it.

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It's a motherly bias that we have for our babies. All right, so you are balancing with the baby. Can I just ask you one other question on that? Because we talk about it all the time, especially on the right. And I too am a working mom and always have been. I've been a professional woman since I graduated from college or law school.

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But now there's, I think a good thing, which is like the restoration of valuing so-called traditional moms. And that's great. The women who take care of their kids full time, most of my best friends are doing exactly that. But it seems like in the right, there's like some, a bit of a shift toward like, You can't do what Caroline's doing.

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That's actually like an unsafe or a dangerous or a bad choice for families, for children, which I reject wholesale, but you hear it more and more. Yeah. Do you hear that? And what do you think of it?

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You've seen in the news, President Trump's getting beaten up by every paper, every left wing cable operation, news operation, but there's a lot going on. And he's got a lot of immense challenges. And Mike Walls is a critical piece of his solutions. So he'll join us for our first time together. And then Caroline Levitt, the White House press secretary, will be here next.

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The reality is it was stuck in what felt like a stalemate, a never-ending standoff between these two countries. And so somebody's going to have to give. The criticism that's coming Trump's way from the right now is you gave up the farm too early.

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We can't chase our great conservative moms out of the workforce. Right. We need them. Then we get rid of you. We get rid of Katie Britt. We get rid of Usha Vance. Right. This is not the way. Amy Coney Barrett is not on the Supreme Court. That should not be the place the conservative movement lands. I agree. All right. So now you start as White House press secretary.

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But you must have really wrestled with how you were going to meet the high bar set by Karine Jean-Pierre. Was that... Sorry. Sorry. Was that out loud? No, she was terrible. Yeah. I mean, come on.

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And not even in like a wussy, sad little way. Like they must be exhausted. It's just nonstop. It's insane. Yeah. So who's your least favorite?

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We'll drop in a clip of it where he was really pressing you on whether there's going to be criminal prosecutions for this alleged fraud and the waste fraud and abuse.

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Like their criticism, and you tell me whether it's legit, is that he shouldn't have said NATO's off the table and they're going to have to give up some territory right off the bat because that should be the end settlement. It shouldn't be where we start.

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It was a pretty incredible exchange where it was like, 71 billion has been spent on fraudulent payments. And he's like, oh, but that was over many years. Does it matter?

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What are you talking about? Eyes on the ball. Yeah, exactly. All right, so that's good. I'm glad to hear the NBC guy's out. Good choice. Sorry, Peter. How do you prepare? Because you can't know everything and you could get asked anything. And unlike Karine Jean-Pierre, you're not out there reading and furiously flipping through your tabs to try to find an answer somebody else has written for you.

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What's the most interesting or surprising thing you've seen at the White House? You know, like this isn't a building you spent a ton of time in before. No.

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I'm sure it's true of every president, but especially this one. All right. Let me turn and ask you about some items in the news.

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Mr. Trump does not like polls that say he's going in the wrong direction. And a few came out this week suggesting his favorables have gone down any place from three to eight points. Eight points is the more left leaning pollsters. It feels like some people may be feeling like it's too much too soon. That's what the CNN poll seems to show when asked, like, what specifically is upsetting you?

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Others suggest, well, I expected an economic turnaround faster. I'm only 30 days in it. How do you read those polls? And what do you want the electorate to know?

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He still has clear majority support on things like immigration and the crackdown. But let me ask you, as somebody who's been with him on the campaign trail for years now, where you live and die by polls, or at least most politicians do, He will come out and rip the poles for sure. If he gets too many bad ones, we're gonna hear him rip on them soon.

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But like behind the scenes, does he react to them? You know, do you think they actually do influence him in some way? Like, okay, maybe I inch this way.

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Gritty is interesting. So not like pocket protector nerdy, like tech nerdy, where you're like a little more grungy.

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Hannity asked the two of them something about this when he had Trump and Elon together, but it's clear the media is trying to drive a wedge between them, no?

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There was a report that the Resolute desk was sent out for a cleaning. Is that related? Are those two events related?

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Every toddler has done it. So cute. Okay, back into the news, and this is a turn, but the beepest stories in the news today, those two babies. Terrible. It's affecting me. It just is a mother.

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Trump is good at stoicism, which we tend to like in our men, right? Very much so. We on the right. Yes. But when he sees something like that, I'm curious about his reaction when that news was brought to him and they were literally celebrating these dead babies in coffins over there. Do you think he feels it on like that gut level that we do?

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Like this particular family and being released in the way that they are for a reason. And all I can hope and pray is that God is, he's steering this in the way it's happening so that we're reminded of that. These are monsters. I don't see these people as human. I really don't know somebody who could strangle a nine month old baby. I'm, You're not a human being.

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I don't know what you are, but you can't be negotiated with. You can't be accommodated. You must be annihilated. And that's President Trump's job. And in a way, it's your job. It's why I almost see when we were talking about you going back to work, okay, four days after you had a baby, it's hard for a number of reasons, physically and emotionally. But it's almost like a soldier being called up.

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So Trump gets Vogel home right away. Trump basically made this hostage deal happen between Hamas and Israel, saving lives and at least, in this case, returning the bodies of the dead to their families so they can be properly buried. Trump does what he says he's going to do with Lake and Riley's mom.

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Trump spent the time with the Gold Star families from the disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal when Joe Biden never did. who stood by him then when they tried to attack him for going to Arlington Cemetery and somebody taking his picture in a certain area. They all stood by him, came out publicly and saying, stop that, he's been good to us.

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It just, you might say, if you were an objective observer, not suffering from TDS, that this is actually a good man. What do you think people are missing? Why do the lunatics who suffer from TDS not see it? Why can't they get beyond their hatred of him?

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My observation over here is that some of that little dip in the polls is due to these guys. It is wall to wall negative coverage. Look at this one CNN poll today, which shows a dip to some extent in the approval. They get to, listen to this, The Trump policies. Trying to deport 11 million undocumented migrants. Okay, whatever. Illegal aliens. Right. That's what they're called.

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The public's still with him. 51% of U.S. adults support. And then we get down to USAID. Mm-hmm. Shutting down the agency that provides humanitarian aid in low-income countries. Oh, amazingly, 59% of the American public opposes that. I would have gathered that you would have styled that a little differently.

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you know, a closer up view, yes. But like, are you getting more insight on how they do it now that you're in this role?

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in the press like Elon's in there with his magnifying glass looking up our salaries and his competitors, you know, financial data. And this is all about, I guess, Elon's get rich quick scheme. I'm not sure why he needs to look at our data.

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Speaking of media hacks, can we talk about it at the Associated Press? Sure. I'd love to. Is it censorship to tell them they can't go into the Oval or on Air Force One?

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If they would behave the way they behaved 50 years ago, maybe they would still have their seat. But if you look at what's happened to them over the past 10 years, it's been complete leftist, radical capture.

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Are you surprised that all the organizations, including Fox and Newsmax, signed this letter as part of the White House press correspondence saying, we stand with them?

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So if Ukraine gives up some 20% of its territory, what Russia's taken thus far, whatever that rounding number is, and doesn't get into NATO, which I think many people believe would be way too provocative right now to even discuss, or maybe for a long, long time, because that's really what was stirring up Putin's anger in large part even before. What does Russia give?

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Amazingly, AP, I can cover President Trump just fine from my desk in Connecticut. Exactly. You'll be okay, sweetheart.

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Ask one question of President Biden about his mental health. and he did not get called on or offered a question for the next 18 months. That's true. No one had a problem with that. No one was saying, we stand with James Rosen. What you're doing is wrong. You're effectively freezing him out of the briefing room by doing this.

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One hundred percent. Yeah. I mean, to quote Trump about Rosie O'Donnell on the AP, they're a bunch of losers and they've been losers for a long time.

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that's the truth sorry do better and you'll probably get a more of a red carpet right out for you you two can get back in the old it's not like he's saying cover me nicely he knows they're not going to do that right he's saying i'm the president i renamed this thing you accept name changes like that when it presents some woke ideology exactly this is an affront to me and my administration no doubt so i maybe i'm in the wilderness on it but i'm team trump on that one thank you not team white house press corps

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Caroline, good luck with everything. Thank you. Thanks for having me. It's good to see you, Megan. Yeah, likewise. Thank you. More to come. Ah, she was amazing, right? What a pair we have, and those two are so lucky that they're willing to serve. Okay, before we go, I want to tell you that this episode is coming out a little late today because I came down to D.C. I interviewed...

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the my guests and then now i'm heading over to cpac where i'm going to be offering some remarks and you'll see caroline there as well and all of these guys are there but uh we'll be releasing those just a bit later i'm not sure if we're going to do it later tonight or early tomorrow morning but it'll hit our feed so keep refreshing and thanks to all of you for not only tuning into the megan kelly show this week but also our new

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AM update. That show's crushing it. Thank you so much for tuning in, whether it's on youtube.com slash Megyn Kelly or on podcast. You guys seem to be liking it. And while it is definitely extra work for us, I think we all feel like it's a worthwhile endeavor. And in the Trump era, you've got to stay on top of the news or you'll get left behind. So we're all going to do it together.

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And you're going to love this interview. I just sat down with her. She is the youngest press secretary ever. Didn't even know that until I was preparing for today. We get into her background, her marriage, her baby. You're gonna learn facts about her that you have never heard anywhere else.

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I just don't get, you know, when I took negotiations in law school, yes, shuttle diplomacy was part of what we learned. But the other piece was the best settlements involved both sides giving up a bit. Sure. Everybody should walk away slightly unhappy or maybe even very unhappy.

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So let's talk about the possibility of securing Ukraine if and when this thing settles. The Russians do not want the Europeans, much less us, but we don't want to go over there and keep the peace. The Europeans reportedly, now you're confirming, may be willing to do it. So how do we get that past Putin?

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And then we talk quite a bit about her boss, the press, what insights she's learned being upfront and personal with these guys and who her least favorite White House reporter is. And she did name a name. So I think you're gonna enjoy that too.

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How do we get that past Putin? And how do we feel about their ability, the European troops, to maintain peace and order and repel any potential aggression that comes their way?

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Is there any chance we withdraw from NATO? President Trump has talked about it.

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And the club required you to go to war if somebody in the club not paying their dues has a massive fight.

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We continue to face uncertainty when it comes to the economy with a perfect storm brewing as Social Security and Medicare hit a breaking point as the largest generation is hitting retirement. A smaller workforce means a smaller tax base. You pair that with our growing national debt and rising cost of living and we could have a big problem. So what are you doing now to protect your family for the

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Yes, it's like I say to my kids when I say, here's something great. And they say, well, why isn't it this other color? And I say, I think the words you're looking for are thank you.

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But let's spend one second on the criticism of what Trump said the other day, and then I want to talk about Israel. Sure. He called Zelensky a dictator, which has had a lot of even right-wingers say that that's ridiculous. Zelensky's not a dictator. Putin's a dictator. He's on the front of the New York Post today. Mark Levin, a big fan of the president, spoke out about this.

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Is that rhetoric that he just throws out there, or do you think he actually means that? What's happening with that word?

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As part of the wider Doge audit of the federal government, Mr. Musk is encouraging President Trump to investigate Fort Knox. President Trump responding to the idea on Wednesday aboard Air Force One.

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Treasury Secretary Scott Besant said in a separate interview on Wednesday, quote, all the gold is present and accounted for. He says the Treasury Department conducts an audit every year. I mean, it is, after all, Fort Knox. That'll do it for your AM Update. I'm Megyn Kelly.

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That's ground, G-R-O-U-N-D, news.com slash Megan to take back control of the news you consume. Kash Patel confirmed as FBI director. The vote was 51 to 49. Senator Mitch McConnell surprising many with his vote in favor of Mr. Patel. Republican Senators Susan Collins of Maine and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska joining every Democrat to vote against the nominee.

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Mr. Patel was believed to be one of President Trump's most controversial nominees. In fact, many pundits on both sides suggested there was zero chance he would make it through. Yesterday morning, six Senate Democrats held a brief press conference outside of the Hoover Building in one last-ditch effort to protest his confirmation.

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Kash Patel is confirmed to a 10-year term as FBI director, with a surprise supporter carrying him across the finish line.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Friday, February 21st, 2025, and this is your AM Update.

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Former Congressman, now Senator, Adam Schiff of California also weighed in.

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As a congressman, Mr. Schiff was removed from his position on the House Intel Committee by former Speaker Kevin McCarthy. As then chairman of that committee, Mr. Schiff led the hearings investigating Russian influence in the 2016 election.

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For years, he told the American people that behind closed doors, he had seen evidence of President Trump's direct collusion with Russia to win the 2016 election.

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Follow-up investigations revealed none of that. In fact, we've learned that the story was based off of phony intel originally funded by the Clinton campaign. The FBI knew the intel was questionably sourced, but used it anyway to secure FISA warrants that allowed them to spy on Trump advisor Carter Page and, by extension, the Trump campaign.

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Text messages between two top FBI agents revealed their plan to, quote, stop Trump from getting elected. Republicans frequently criticized the FBI under the Biden administration, which created a specific threat tag, edu officials that would monitor parents attending school board meetings as potential threats.

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A leaked January 2023 FBI memo proposed monitoring some Catholics, suggesting Catholics interested in the traditional Latin mass could be linked to extremist groups. That memo was later retracted. trust in the FBI has been on a steady decline. A 2003 Gallup poll showed 53% rated the FBI as good or excellent. As of 2024, that number had dropped to 41%.

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President Trump campaigned on a promise of rooting out partisan actors from the Justice Department and FBI. A DOJ spokesperson said earlier this week, quote, this DOJ will return to its core function of prosecuting dangerous criminals, not pursuing politically motivated witch hunts. Like Mr. Trump, Bobby Kennedy, and Tulsi Gabbard, Kash Patel is a fierce critic of the very bureau he now oversees.

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He made the following statement in a September episode of The Sean Ryan Show.

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Our worst fears confirmed. Hamas terrorists parade the coffins, of the innocent Biba's children through the streets of Gaza before returning the tiny captives to Israel. We'll have a full report. And a new slate of polls shows slight changes to President Trump's approval rating. And is Doge about to send you a refund check? All that and more coming up on your AM Update.

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Mr. Patel played a key role identifying FBI misconduct related to the Steele dossier. Reuters reports that in the first month of the second Trump administration, at least 75 career DOJ lawyers and FBI officials have either resigned, been fired, or stripped of their posts. FBI directors typically serve 10-year terms.

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Prior to his vote for Kash Patel yesterday, Senator Mitch McConnell announcing his own retirement.

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After voting against Tulsi Gabbard, Pete Hegseth and RFKJ, many expected the senator to oppose Patel as well. That would have left the tie-breaking vote to Vice President J.D. Vance. First elected to the Senate back in 1984, Mr. McConnell holds the title of longest-serving Senate party leader in American history.

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Despite a contentious relationship with President Trump's nominees this time around, Senator McConnell played a crucial role in shepherding Neil Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh, and Amy Coney Barrett onto the U.S. Supreme Court. Coming up, the Biba's children are returned to Israel. The latest on Trump polling and possible Doge refund checks. All this and more in just a moment.

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April 15th is just around the corner. You act now. Get it off your plate before the IRS acts first. Four bodies returned yesterday to Israel from the Gaza Strip. Israeli officials say one of them, expected to be Shiri Bibas, is not actually her and does not match any other hostage.

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The Israeli military releasing this statement, quote, This is a violation of utmost severity by the Hamas terrorist organization, which is obligated under the agreement to return four deceased hostages. We demand that Hamas return Sheree home along with all other hostages.

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Officials did confirm the remains of her two young sons, Ariel, age four, and Kafir, just nine months old when they were taken from their homes barefoot and in their PJs on October 7, 2023. The boys, the youngest of the 253 hostages taken that day, became a harrowing symbol, both to the Israeli people and to the world, of the sheer brutality of Hamas's attack.

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As with prior living hostages, the Hamas terrorists paraded the bodies through the streets with loud music blaring, almost celebratory, some members of the crowd cheering as the caskets of the babies passed by. The four black boxes then displayed on a podium, each with a picture of the hostage at the base, their name and words in Arabic, October 7th, date of arrest.

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This show is dedicated to uncovering the truth in a media landscape often dominated by left-leaning narratives, especially when it comes to President Trump. It's safe to say you can expect more agenda-driven stories and factual distortions all over the rest of the news. But I do want to tell you about Ground News.

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On display behind them, an image of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu with fangs and blood spatters with the words, quote, the war criminal Netanyahu and his Nazi army killed them with missiles from Zionist warplanes, a claim totally unsupported by any evidence. Israeli President Herzog on MSNBC reacting to the barbaric scene.

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The coffins were scanned for explosives before they were returned by the Red Cross to Israel. The remains of the fourth hostage, also confirmed by Israeli officials, were those of Oded Lifshitz, 83 when he was taken hostage. He was the founder of the kibbutz near Oz, the village where he and the Bibas family lived. Mr. Lifshitz worked for many years as a journalist.

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For a left-leaning newspaper, President Herzog spoke about his life and work.

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The Times of Israel reporting Mr. Leafsheets was an Arabic speaker. He worked with an organization called Road for Recovery. He would drive weekly into the Gaza Strip, shuttling Palestinians in need of medical treatment into Israel. Oded's wife, Yokoved, tells the Times of Israel her husband, quote, fought for the Palestinians his whole life. They betrayed him and took him to hell.

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Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu addressed the Israeli people yesterday saying, quote, our hearts may be broken, but our spirit is not. And with this spirit, we will return all of our hostages. We will destroy the murderers. We will eliminate Hamas. And together, with God's help, we will ensure our future. Six more hostages are set to be released tomorrow.

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Phase two of these negotiations are now in the preliminary stage. Earlier this week, Mr. Netanyahu reportedly told his cabinet the conditions for entering phase two will require Hamas to disarm and to have no presence in Gaza. A fresh slate of polls showing a slight decrease in enthusiasm for President Trump's job approval. CNN's Harry Enten breaks it down.

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Unlike other platforms that censor or amplify certain narratives, Ground News is not a news publisher. They're an independent app and website that aggregates every source on a story so you can compare coverage and see through mainstream media spin. Ground News has an entire blind spot feed with stories that are receiving lopsided coverage.

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Enten saying it's the worst day of polling in Trump's second term. All of the polls he referenced come out on a monthly basis, and President Trump is just one month into his second. Each of the four polls referenced have Mr. Trump's approval in the mid to upper 40s, with strong support amongst Republicans.

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Amongst all voters, CNN shows Mr. Trump with a 47 percent approval rating compared to 52 percent who disapprove. Gallup has it 45 to 51. Washington Post, Ipsos, 45 to 53 and Quinnipiac, 45 to 49. According to the RealClearPolitics polling average, President Trump is at a 48% favorable and 49% unfavorable rating, although these new polls are not factored into those numbers.

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President Trump's approval rating remains far above his first term, which never got higher than 44%. for a Doge-funded tax refund? The Doge team reports they have saved $55 billion of taxpayer money. The official website says the savings come from fraud detection. contract cancellations, and asset sales, among other actions.

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Earlier this week, investment manager James Fischbach proposed issuing a refund to taxpayers on X with these savings. Elon Musk responding, we'll check with the president. The idea picking up traction throughout the week, President Trump addressed it in Miami on Wednesday.

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In the briefing room yesterday, Stephen Miller outlined how the concept might play out.

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A common Republican criticism of the Biden administration was that the stimulus checks were inflationary and counterproductive. CNN's Caitlin Collins asked Kevin Hassett, director of the National Economic Council, if he has any concern that Doge refunds could have the same effect.

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Right now, the House and Senate are working on budget proposals. Any Doge refunds would have to come from the budgeting process. Fort Knox, the 109,000-acre property located in Kentucky, is one of the world's most tightly guarded locations. It holds about 161 million ounces of gold, approximately 59% of the U.S. Treasury's total supply, according to the U.S. Mint. Or does it?

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Elon Musk saying, prove it. The last public tour of Fort Knox was in 1974 under President Gerald Ford. A group of congressmen and some journalists became the second tour group outside of authorized personnel. to take a peek around. The first look was President Franklin Roosevelt back in 1943, 10 years after the fort opened.

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Well, Elon stepped in and objected to what Speaker Johnson was about to do, and it appears to have halted it and gotten it slimmed down to what you just said, this more three-point plan, taking care of the farmers, the hurricane relief, and just booting this whole, you know, CR thing, the continuing resolution until a couple months after Trump takes office, where they'll have to deal with it then.

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But in the meantime... As I said in the intro, the left seems to smell an opportunity here of dividing Trump and Elon. They've been doing it for a while. They see that Elon's been quite a presence at Mar-a-Lago and on President Trump's initial meetings. And they know exactly that Trump has a big ego, like every president.

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As I said, we are now one way, one month away from the inauguration of Donald Trump 2.0. And even before that day arrives, the Democratic Party remains in crisis. They don't know what they're doing. Why are they talking about 2028 already? My God, would you just still do an honest retrospective on why you lost 2024 before you start? I mean, fine, but if I were a Democrat, I'd be a little annoyed.

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And they're trying to manipulate him psychologically by saying, oh, really, Elon's the president. Really, he's truly the president. He was tweeting about it himself. One second, let me find it on my phone. Elon was today and seemingly unhappy about the manipulations that we're seeing. So here's what happened first. It was...

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Pramala Jayapal, a member of the squad, who tweeted out, it's not clear who's in charge. She's got a picture of Elon at the Resolute desk. And it's not President-elect Donald Trump. Shadow President Elon Musk spent all day railing against Republicans' CR, succeeded in killing the bill, and then Trump decided to follow his lead.

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Then somebody retweets this and says, for awareness, note the language here. It's very intentional strategy. The goal is to weaken Trump and Elon by fomenting tensions between them, by jabbing Trump about not being the alpha. The idea is to provoke him, to sideline Elon and to fray the relationship. And Elon retweeted that saying, that is exactly the goal.

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The political and legacy media puppets all got their new instructions yesterday and are now parroting the same message to drive a wedge between Donald Trump and me. They will fail. You agree that's the strategy right now?

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They don't know what to do. Labeling Donald Trump Hitler didn't work. America's Mussolini, nah, the American public didn't buy it. So now, for now, they've come up with a new way to try to irritate Donald Trump and the to break apart a really important and potentially even holy alliance between Donald Trump and the richest man in the world, Elon Musk.

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I watch him with Trump at these events. And I think one thing, if Trump did not want him there, he would not be there. Trump's not shy about kicking anybody out of his orbit. And if he doesn't want to share these events or the spotlight with Elon Musk, he'll tell him to get out. Trump is not a shrinking violet.

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Even though Elon's huge and really helped him out, I mean, I think he understands Elon supports the movement. It's not all about one man. It's about the movement. So he has an ally, I think, probably for life there. It's not to say there could be no personality clashes, but the media is clearly trying to drive a wedge between them. And I think it's great Elon responded on the record.

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Let me follow up on something you said about Speaker Mike Johnson. So the conventional analysis is that he was doing pretty well prior to this, that he had managed to make himself into one of the critical Trump orbit people, that when we saw pictures tweeted out at the UFC events of the so-called Avengers, you know, Tulsi, Elon, Vivek, J.D., Trump. He was in there.

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He was kind of like the extra, like in the back, and me too, me too. And that even the political convention now is a big change for him in 24 hours, and he's probably not going to survive as speaker. So you said he's got to go. Why?

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The latest line, Trump is nothing more than Elon's puppet. They got scared.

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Senator Rand Paul was suggesting a new Speaker of the House could be Elon Musk. It doesn't actually under the Constitution have to be a sitting member of Congress. Is there any world in which that happens?

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Yeah, Elon's pretty busy doing all the things that made him Elon to begin with, but I like it too, just as an idea, just bringing in an outsider to take a look at that organization, same way where he's looking through Doge at the government and say, this thing's all messed up. It hasn't been running well for 20 years.

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President Musk said, don't do it. Don't do it. Trump looked tiny yesterday. He looked like a very little man.

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I mean, the one comfort I've had is, you know, I certainly could, I'd be the smartest person there. So that's exciting. I'm very concerned about the people getting elected to our Congress today. All right, let's keep going. What's going to happen with Trump's cabinet picks? Because they already got one scalp, Matt Gaetz. They were dangerously close to getting Pete Hegseth.

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Could still happen, but they don't love RFKJ. They're saying Tulsi is a spy for Russia. So what's going to happen?

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The shadow president, Elon Musk. But the daddy they really fear and the daddy who really leads them right now. Donald Trump looks tiny right now. He looks small compared to Elon Musk.

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So talk about the more moderate, in quotes, Republican senators who are risks. You've got Collins and Murkowski. You've got McConnell, who can't stand Trump. And then you've got Ernst, who I realize her language has changed around Pete. But I have to tell you, Steve, I've got real doubts about whether she's ultimately going to vote for him. I don't think she's a yes yet.

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This is an unelected oligarch who appears to be running our government.

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I think all I've heard her say she's going to do is commit to seeing him through the hearing. And I don't even know if she cares about her political future in the way the average animal in D.C. does. So I don't know. What do you think?

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Okay, I thought Joe Biden was the president. I mean, technically, isn't he still the president? But it's obvious what they're trying to do there, and I'll talk about it in one second.

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And may I just say before we get started how grateful I am, and I know my staff feels too, toward all of you for making the show what it is and making it possible for us to do it to you every day and bring the show to you, the news to you in the way that we think is... appropriate, special, and all too rare. So couldn't do it without the support of all of you listening and watching.

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But last night, my first guest today, Steve Bannon, spoke about what the Democratic Party should expect from the incoming administration when President Trump actually takes office, when he, Bannon, appeared at Turning Point's America Fest in Phoenix. And typically for Steve, he did not hold back.

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I really think when it comes to Pete, the key is, yes, political pressure on some of them. But McConnell, I don't know if that would work on him and Ernst, same thing. But I do think somebody like Joni Ernst cares deeply about what the rank and file troops think and want.

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I actually do think even if she's thinking I've got reservations, if she hears from enough rank and file guys and gals that they want him, they want an actual soldier, an actual warrior to take over and look out for them. she could be persuaded by that. And it's starting to happen. You're starting to see more and more do it.

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He's shown enormous courage, Fetterman, in dealing with the Israel issue. He does not care how many people protest outside of his home or his office. He runs out there with his Israeli flag. He's in your face about it in a way that I think a lot of people admire. So yeah, he could be one to watch. All right, let's talk about agenda.

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You mentioned at the top, I mean, how long do you think Trump has to really get things done?

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How does he do it? How does he attack immigration in particular? Because what we'd love to see, of course, is an actual law, an actual law that tightens the procedures that make sure some of these Trump policies become law and the next president has to abide by them, especially if it's a Democrat. But we don't have 60 votes in the Senate. We only have 53.

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which makes it tough because the Democrats could filibuster it. Maybe, maybe not, given that the temperature on immigration is so hot right now and even Democratic voters wanted to see a crackdown. But so what exactly on immigration do you want them to do?

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Okay, what about investigations? Because we've seen a couple of things bubble up recently. There's been buzz around Liz Cheney, who we now have reason to believe may have behaved inappropriately with a key witness in the J6 hearings. With respect to her attorney, there have been allegations made that she interfered in an inappropriate way. Then you've got Fannie Willis,

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whose disqualification was ordered by the Georgia Appellate Court yesterday. Thank God that was the right decision. And there's real questions about the behavior of some of these people who have been the main chief antagonists of Donald Trump. There's a split on whether he should go after them. He said, success is the best revenge. Not sure I'm inclined to do it, but

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He's filed lawsuits, at least, against certain media personnel and Ann Seltzer, well, the Des Moines Register. So what do you see happening on the investigation or, quote, retaliation front?

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That's clever. Steve Bannon, what a pleasure. Merry Christmas. Happy New Year. So glad you'll be spending it with your family and not in that ridiculous prison. Great to have you.

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Steve Bannon joins me now. He's host of War Room, which you can watch on Real America's Voice, Rumble X and all podcast platforms. He's also a former chief strategist for President Donald Trump. For those of us who have been holding our breath for the past several months, we can finally exhale in the wake of this presidential election, right?

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It is the kind of job. No, wait, it's not. So on your podcast, which is called Dedicated with Doug Brunt, where you're a writer, you're an author, you talk about books and you talk with famous authors. You always serve a cocktail and you've brought dedicated to us today. What are we having here?

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Yeah, a little goes a long way, but cheers. Merry Christmas, honey. Love you. Thanks for being here.

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eggnog is really good warrior proof eggnog and only if you have one cup because it's not about getting drunk we've done that in the air it's about the waistline yeah remember that one year that's right so this is reduced fat eggnog i remember that year you and i were by christmas eve we were like had put on about 15 pounds we were fat yeah we were fat we'd gotten fat and we were looking at each other like something's going on a little different maybe it's the eggnog we've been having it like every

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night this is years ago we didn't even have kids yet we were back in our chelsea apartment and uh yeah we realized that even the low fat yeah is has got like 400 calories a glass something ridiculous it was a pretty bloated christmas now we have like well this is a special occasion but now we have one when we like trim the tree yeah that kind of thing yeah gotta gotta save your save your moments there all right so we're getting excited tomorrow we're leaving and we're gonna go to montana which is where we spend the holidays now we've been doing that for what nine years

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With the kids. And we always have a white Christmas there because whether it's manufactured snow or not.

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Last year was not good snow. It was normal. It was natural snow, but it was crappy skiing. But this year we've got La Nina, so I'm feeling pretty good about it.

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And tell the audience, have you completed all of your Christmas shopping? Yes.

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Our 11-year-old said, Mom, I really want to go down to the main drag there to do some Christmas shopping today. And he needs Doug to take him because he's got to get it done relatively early.

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Did you do that because of what's in the news today? There's something in the news today saying seven out of 10 women, moms, you know, and wives wake up on Christmas day to find their stocking empty or they have to do it themselves. Their husband never fills their stocking. And somehow Santa just focuses on the kids.

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Work can finally be done on the major issues that this country's facing, and one of the most significant is our national debt. Look, the fact is our nation's broke, and that debt is a house of cards that cannot be quickly dismantled by anyone. So the strategy remains the same when it comes to your investments. You might wanna diversify your savings. Virtually all the experts say that's a good idea.

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There's something in the news today also talking about how Like the vast majority of Americans want to change Christmas traditions. They're kind of over having a turkey and doing what we all do, which is like overbuy or get stressed out by money, whatever, one of those problems. And that one of the things people would prefer is... letters, like handwritten notes to gifts.

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It's on the top 10 list of things that people might prefer instead of a gift. I mean, I feel like that was written for me.

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I don't know. I think it has gotten too commercialized. And then you feel all stressed out about getting the right gifts. And by the time you're done, you kind of feel the way you feel when you've overeaten. at a big holiday meal. You know, like I've supported American capitalism and ideally some small businesses. And I think people around me will be happy, but this feels excessive, right?

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Like it just always, no matter how big or small you go, it feels kind of just excessive.

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So we've got to talk about that. So, so far, our family started right after Thanksgiving with our holiday shows that we watched. We watched Rudolph, which led to a segment on the show talking about what a bully Santa is. And he is a bully in that movie. Santa's gone mean in the Rudolph movie. And then we watched Santa Claus is Coming to Town. You're really more of a year without a Santa Claus guy.

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We're going to do the quiz and I don't know a lot of the answers. They just gave me the questions and I was like, actually, this is going to be hard, but keep going.

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Well, it's funny because I did a segment with the, as you know, the guys from the Rootless program.

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On Best Movie, Best Christmas Movie, our favorite Christmas movie. And they said things like Christmas Story was one of them. Smug went with Godfather, which is not. And Duncan picked Four Christmases, which I had never seen. And you had never seen. You were convinced we had seen it.

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After we walked out of that movie together. Anyway, so we watched Four Christmases with Sissy Spacek, Vince Vaughn, and Reese Witherspoon. And it was cute. I liked it.

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Well, one of the people who makes a special guest star appearance in that movie is an EP of it, and it's Ralphie from A Christmas Story.

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Which was, that was, I think, Holmes' favorite movie, if I'm not mistaken. Anyway, or Ashbrook. Anyway, I love it. Yeah, and Holmes was A Christmas Vacation. So this led to a whole thing on the show about favorite Christmas movies and what gets you in the mood. And our viewers wrote in, I asked them what their favorite movies were and wrote in by droves with their various submissions.

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And I mentioned how we always watch Christmas in Connecticut and I still love Christmas in Connecticut so much. Barbara Stanwyck and she liked that. Um, Stanley green street, who is, uh, he plays Alexander Yardley.

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Um, Anyway, and somebody wrote in, actually multiple people wrote in, if you like those old time black and white movies, and we don't love all of them, but like some of them are great.

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That you should try Shop Around the Corner. So thank you to the audience who suggested that because we watched it early in the morning yesterday and today or two days this week. We woke up super early and we had it on. And it was so cute.

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All right, we have a clip for those of you who have never seen it.

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So the whole premise is that they work together and they don't like each other. Or do they? Because each has a secret pen pal with whom they're having somewhat of a romantic blossoming. And well, if you've seen You've Got Mail, you know how it ends. But you said when we were watching it, there's something really soothing about Jimmy Stewart's voice, like about Jimmy Stewart in general.

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What's amazing is that movie was made in 1940. 1940, think about that. So that's 85 years ago, almost 85. That's incredible. And we were talking, so Doug, we turn it on and it's like, it is charming. So we have a little Christmas tree in our bedroom this time of year, which I love and highly recommend. And in the morning we turn on the lights and we make a coffee.

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We have a little coffee maker in the room and And we sit there in our bed and we have coffee and we chat. And it's actually many days, the only time we have to really catch up before everything goes nuts. And this time of year, sometimes we'll put on like a cute movie. I remember last year we watched Serendipity.

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That's a great one. Notwithstanding that John Cusack is a prick, but you can suspend your disbelief. And this year, so we were watching that and, And you said to me, the setting's beautiful, we've got a little Christmas tree going, we've got our coffee, the black and white film, and you go, everyone in this movie is dead, even the babies.

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So they might, the babies might still be alive. But the thing that always strikes me is that you knew my Nana very well, who died at 101, right before Trump was elected. It was 16, October of 16. She was born in 1915, 1915. And I look at that, I'm like, Nana was 25. Someone we've known in our lifetime very, very well was alive and vibrant when this black and white 1940 film was made.

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Right. We need to find out. No, it's funny because you saw him and then you had a second, as we called it, a play date. I'm like, Doug's got another play date with his new best friend. But what a fascinating man.

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See, now these are the fascinating interactions that Doug has, and he reads amazing books, and then he writes amazing books, like The Mysterious Case of Rudolph Diesel, which you should all buy for Christmas. It's still crushing it. Amazingly, it's still doing so well.

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Yeah. So it's still available for you. It's, it's, it's, uh, available in paperwork too. So you can get paperback so you can get the cheaper version if you want though. It's, it's bargain at any, at any price, mysterious case of Rudolph diesel, by the way, may I just say, I just want the audience to see how much I've I have drunk so far. We're actually having this.

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Great speech, and thank you for embodying what many of us are feeling there, especially at the end. It's like, okay, spare me on the unity. That's what Joe Biden promised us when we took office. We knew he didn't mean it. You're advocating a more honest approach. No.

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And it's like one tiny, it's like a half an inch of this glass. And I already feel a little woozy. That Jack Carr whiskey is not messing around.

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Oh no, Debbie Murphy just reminded me I have a lot of reads after the show. Don't get drunk. I got to sip it slowly, sip it slowly. It's like we're going into the holiday period. So I got a lot going on anyway. Um, okay. So let's, let's go through a couple of things. I want to go through a story that happened before I get too intoxicated to us yesterday on Christmas gifts.

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Is this my camera? You guys, I have a lost all focus. This is my camera, right? For the, for the thank you radar. Um, I'm drunk already. I've lost all control of the show. Okay. So I never get Christmas gifts for the kids' teachers. And in my defense, I won't be too much of a sexist pig about it. Doug never does either. Just because I'm the mom doesn't mean it has to be me, right?

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for the record, but let's face it. It's always the moms. So, um, I had dinner with some friends here in town a couple of weeks ago and there were four of us and two were like, you never get gifts for the teachers that like around Christmas. I'm like, no, like never. I'm like, no, my friends were like, oh, okay. They weren't passing judgment. They were, but they were surprised.

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And there was another mom there who was like, oh no, me neither. And she's a working mom. And she, and she was like solidarity. Right. But it's stuck in my craw. Like, oh my God, our kids are the only ones going in there. This is bad. I need to get some gifts.

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Well, long story short, I decided to get like a bath bomb, you know, like one of those round, looks like chalk bombs that you throw into your bath and it makes into, into this like soothing, fun kind of bubble bath-ish thing. And I had Abby order me the one that I found online so I could try it first, make sure I'm not giving away something disgusting. And then I also saw this thing online.

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It was really cute. It was like lab test tubes, you know, like what you'd see in a science lab. And they had these labels on them. Okay. Take that down for now. And, uh, so I tried that out too. And that was the winner. I'm like, that's actually really cute with the test tubes. So Abby bought like a few of them. She had them wrapped. And yesterday the kids were leaving for school.

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Yardley was going with you and the boys were going with me. And, and I remembered, I'm like, oh, take your gifts. I've got, I'm on top of it this year. So you and Yardley leave with one for her teacher and the boys each have two female teachers. So they had their two and two. And Thatcher was like, what do you mean test tubes? I'm like, oh, they're, there's like, they look like lab test tubes.

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And he's like, well, what's written on them? And I was like, I don't like little messages. Like one said, spirit guide, you know, it's cute. So I pulled up the website just so they could look at it while I was getting them ready and getting myself ready to leave. And I look over at them and Thatcher, who's 11, has eyes like silver dollars. And I'm like, what?

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And Yates, who's 15, goes, well, I certainly hope tube number two isn't in the gift. I'm like, uh-oh. What's in tube number two? So I take a look at my own phone that they're looking at. And tube number two reads in big writing, get naked. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Which we almost had our 15-year-old.

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Oh my God. So now I'm like, it's too late to save Yardley, but I can still save the boys. So I decide there's such nice gifts. I'm actually still excited about my gift that I take out the steak knife and I start to try to perform a surgery on it, Duggar. And I try to get in there. So like, cause I still had my own test kit up in the bathroom. And I was like, there are some innocuous tubes.

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I could replace the offensive ones with the innocuous ones. So I send Yates up to get the innocuous tubes. And I was like, I can't do it. There's so many layers. It's been so beautifully wrapped, the tissue paper and then the real paper and lots of tape. And I'm like, I can't, I said, Thatcher, it's probably okay. Don't you think maybe we could just, we could just go with it as is.

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Thatcher's like, I don't think it's okay, mom. Please don't make me give that to my teacher. So we replaced the boys with some candles. And Yardley's teacher got the special holiday brunt message of get naked, get drunk, and get drugged.

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Happy New Year. I did send her a note, and she was a very, very good sport. She laughed and thought it was hysterical, but... There are some things you have to admit you're not good at, especially when you're a working mom and gift giving is on the list.

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No, no, no. You've offered to help many times, but I don't like it when you help.

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Mm-hmm. Well, the other problem is Doug and I have a philosophical disagreement about Christmas where it's like, I'm like, I like a lot. And Doug's like, these four would make everyone really happy.

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Because I like the look of excess. It could be something small. It could be like a little Nerf football. But I wrap it because it's just so fun to walk down and see that, you know, big thing under the tree.

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That's kind of how I feel about it. Okay. Let's talk about, well, the drinks. We do the eggnog. We do, what else? Do we typically have a Christmas drink? Yeah.

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All right. How about special? Is this on my list? Traditions? I don't want to step up.

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So here is the instruction. MK, read the questions and give us your answer. Doug, the producers and Peko will confirm if you are correct. Okay. Okay. Number one, what is Doug's favorite Christmas memory? Well, I feel like you might've just told it. Is this with our family or his family or his whole life? Okay.

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Who we asked, he's our eldest. Now he's 15. But at the time he was like four and we had seen Polar Express and we had asked him like, is there any special thing, any special toy, anything?

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weeks in advance. And he was like, no, no, no. He was little, maybe five. Anyway, no, no, no, no, no. And it was literally 11 o'clock Christmas Eve. And he, he had just like woken up from his slumber and like toddled out. And he was like, I thought of what I want.

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And of course we're like the window has closed, sir. And he's like, I want the bell. I want one of silver magic bell from Santa's reindeer from polar express. He had just seen polar express. We were like, yeah, we're screwed. The one thing he wants right down the street from Dwayne Reed. Right. But Dwayne Reed was closed on Christmas Eve and didn't have the Christmas bell. So we were like,

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He's not going to get it. This is so sad. Oh, well, you know, he waited too late. Maybe he'll learn in the future, but like it is sad. So then you go to set up the train. We had just bought a train for underneath the Christmas tree. Yeah. And we had purchased a Polar Express train. And lo and behold, in the box was the Christmas Santa's reindeer.

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Okay, the next one. What is the best Christmas gift Megan ever gave Doug? I mean, we don't give gifts to each other.

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He was not a good dresser. You've heard the story. yellow golf shirt and high-waisted khaki pants when we first met. This is not an appropriate outfit for anyone's first date. And so, yes, I was extremely generous on our first Christmas, even though I didn't really have much money back then.

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She was sabotaging you for other women by making you wear these terrible outfits. That's why you came to me in that condition.

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That was the funniest thing ever. Okay. Number three, Doug's favorite Christmas song or favorite Christmas movie scene. Well, the movie, I already said that. You're Without a Santa Claus.

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Favorite song? Oh, I know your favorite song. It's, don't say it. It's by Dean Martin and it's Marshmallow World.

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Okay, but thank you for trying, team. Okay, number four. Doug's favorite thing to eat or drink at Christmas. Are we drinking it right now?

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Yeah, hello, ding. Where's my ding? Is my team drunk, too? Did you all support for them? All right, five. Traditions from Doug's childhood that he's carried over to your own family. Well. Do we already cover that one or is there something else?

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Okay, okay. Number six, traditions Doug hopes your own children will do with their kids one day. I don't know. I mean, oh, I've got one. I've got one. Is it how they all sleep in the same room the night, Christmas Eve? I mean, even if this is not what you said, I know you believe that you want this. So they sleep in the same room on Christmas Eve.

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Feel very grateful to you all. Feel especially hopeful this time of year, as I know a lot of you do too, as we're now, you know, what, a month away. Actually, it's a month from today that Donald Trump will be sworn in as the 47th president of the United States. And it happened despite overwhelming odds against him and despite a media that is entirely against him.

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And then in the morning before they come upstairs to get us, they say a prayer together, which is, they came up with this on their own. They told us about it after a couple of years after doing it. And then they come right to our room and we walk out together.

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Yeah. We're reinforcing how important that is. Okay. Um, Let's see. Okay, seven. What are Doug's hopes for the new year? And he always has the same hopes. Like everybody stays well, everybody thrives.

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Yeah, see, I'm nailing it. Okay, eight. If Doug could change one thing from the past year, what would it be? Well, I think we'd both like your mom to be feeling better.

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Oh, my God. This is the best. I'm going to fortify myself for this one. So we went to Scandinavia in June.

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A family. We went to Sweden, Norway, and Denmark. And when we got to Denmark, we went to the big amusement park there that everybody goes to. What's it called again? I don't know. We went there. Gardens.

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It's the one that Disney World was based on. And... We went on this very, very mild... Already, this is fake news.

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Called the Ruchibon. It was so mild. You didn't even have the shoulder harness. It just had the lap bar where you hold. And there was a man operating it. The brakes required his foot to press the... It was a manual brake. How dangerous could it be, quite frankly? And so... You know how the roller coasters will take your picture when you're on the roller coaster?

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Well, it took our picture and we went and saw it on the little screen. And I'm just going to show you the first picture that we saw. We went down to see the screen. Now, here you can see. Oh, Tivoli Gardens. That's what it was. I can see. So you can see there's yours truly. And I'm next to our son, Thatcher. And you can see I'm really enjoying myself. I love the root jabonin.

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But you can see Doug is behind me and it's unclear whether Doug is enjoying it quite as much as Thatcher and I are. And they are the two kids who are behind him. And then we scrolled in the list of photos that you could purchase, which I did, by the way. And look at Doug.

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All right. Let's spend a minute on what's happening on Capitol Hill, because it's confusing, I think, to the average person who does not pay a lot of attention to continuing resolutions or these end of year budget wars that always seem to wind up the same way with them saying, just fund it, just fund it under the same terms as we've been funding it.

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So do you remember how that went for me when I was, like, when you got off?

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it's so funny if you guys are listening on Sirius XM or on podcast you've got to go to youtube.com go to about I don't know 90 minutes into the show and look at this picture because it's so out of character for you that's what made it so funny oh nice save thank you truly you're always so composed you're always strong you're always our defender our leader and uh there you were genuinely scared and horrified yeah

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I'm going to send those to the, to the team too. No, it was four times FYI.

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Yeah. And, um, yeah, so he tried again and it failed and then, and then, uh, the final time you nailed it.

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You look totally, totally comfortable. Um, okay. Stand by. Let's see. Um, Okay. Nine. Finish this sentence for Doug. It's not Christmas without... Hmm. Strudwick eating something he shouldn't be.

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Oh, that's a tough one. I don't... Montana? A White Christmas in Montana? The fam?

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Okay, so it's equal. Okay, 10. How early does the family start Christmas shopping? The family. How early does the family? Ladies, how early does the family start?

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The family starts maybe like two weeks before because if you wait too long, you can't get anything on Amazon.

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Yeah. There we go. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you very much. Um, I do think we should talk about it's a wonderful life and then we'll take a quick break because that is one of our family traditions and it, I love it. It's my favorite family tradition. Here is a clip from the wonderful movie. It's a wonderful life.

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So in a nutshell, what's happening is we're going to run out of money to fund the government. They tried, including Speaker Johnson, spearheaded an effort to try to continue the existing funding, but with some hikes like pay hikes for Congress and ongoing funding for some very controversial organizations, but just to sort of kick the can down the road to March. And the

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Right? And Donna Reed is so good. She's so beautiful. So we decided to make the most of this movie. I've told the audience this story before, but for those who don't know, do you want to explain what we do when we watch it as a family?

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There's a scene where he gets married and they're like, and Donna Reed shows up with Jimmy Stewart. And she's like, you know, bread that this house may never know hunger or salt that they never may never be bland or whatever it is.

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I went to this a showing of it in Chicago years ago, like 20 years ago with some friends. And we saw them like they did this in the theater. They treated it like the Rocky Horror Picture Show. And I love, love, love. You guys totally do this with your families. So you put on the movie and every time Mr. Potter comes on, what do we do?

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That's exactly right. It's not my inane stupidity as it is with her. It's this Jack Carr whiskey. Anywho, and then we throw salt and we throw bread at that scene where they go visit Mr. Martini and he's getting a home and she does the toast. And I don't know, it's just so fun. The whole thing is like... It's just a fun way to watch the movie and we all look forward to it.

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Once again, very calming. All right, stand by, quick break. Back with more right after this. I'm Megyn Kelly, host of The Megyn Kelly Show on Sirius XM. It's your home for open, honest, and provocative conversations with the most interesting and important political, legal, and cultural figures today.

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Why do the ads seem so funny to me when I've had something to drink?

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I do. It's true. OK, so speak. And that is the reason why Strudwick is allowed to remain with our family.

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Yes. So today he had yet another terrible piece of behavior. Do you care to share?

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The Republicans, some 30 of them in the House who never vote for these, who just always say this is so irresponsible. What are we doing? We have enormous debt and deficits. We're not going to support this. Necessitated Speaker Johnson, he would say, reaching out to some Democrats to get approval for this bill. That necessitated Republicans.

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He's fine. So this one involves Abigail Finan, their moose munch, who received the gift from one of our friends of the show. And very nice. Thank you, Adam Carolla, by the way. And we really appreciate that.

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Well, I mean, you know, honestly, frankly, better him than me because I love that stuff would have gone right to the eggnog. Exactly. And she was like, I don't know what I was thinking. I've got to read you what she wrote because she was so mortified. She knows Strud too well. She's yelling in the other room. I said, hey, did you take a picture?

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Because we always post it on the website with Meg Storm. And she wrote, no, I was so stressed out, I didn't. I literally sprinted back because I was like, WTF, Abby, you don't leave like a leftover sandwich on the counter and you left a large Harry and David gift basket there? It's really an egregious mistake. Unbelievable.

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Because her sin was leaving anything on the kitchen counter because she knows exactly...

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what happens almost instantly can't leave for two minutes no two seconds and yet neither of us we were like he's fine you're good yeah and sure enough hours later he's 100 totally there's nothing wrong with stradwick sugar-free gum chocolate grapes whatever he eats it all all the stuff we were told would kill him instantly he's absolutely fine like now the vet is like you're not bringing him in we're like no he's fine

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Yeah. We don't recommend this plan at home. We don't know if your dog's indestructible, but our dog is unbelievable. And plus, at some point, Darwinism kicks in. It's like, I mean, we're how many thousands of dollars in the hole? I mean, you hesitate to even hazard a guess. Yeah. Now, you did bring three books with you today, sir. Why did you do that? You have some helpful hints.

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I recommended it to, um, my trainer who is a younger guy. He's married with a family, but he's younger than we are. And he couldn't put it down. Like he, he was like, what else does Doug have? I'll read anything Doug recommends.

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all these spending extravaganzas because they won't support it unless they get some of their favorites in there. And the whole thing wound up a very ugly nightmare that was about to be shoved through. And then Vivek and Elon, who are running Department of Government Efficiency, Doge's extra-governmental watchdog on spending, stepped in to say, what are we doing? Why are we doing this?

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So I was picking Thatcher up from school yesterday or dropping off school, and I said, guess who's coming on the program tomorrow? He said, who? And I said, Doug Brunt. He said, oh. And I said, what do you think I should ask him? And he said, you should ask him, what will it take for people to know that diesel is a proper noun that should be written with a capital D? First of all, so sweet.

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Our 11-year-old thought of that. Yeah. And what do you think? You know, this guy who you've kind of brought back to life and generated a whole new conversation on with your book, The Mysterious Case of Rudolph Diesel. What do you think it'll take to make people know that?

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And that there was blowback. And then Trump dropped in with another message, which I'll get to in one second. Anyway, the whole thing blew up. It all blew up. And now they might have a new deal that's like a very slimmed down version of all this. But for the people at home who are lost already with me, with this back and forth, Steve, what is the bottom line? What do they need to know?

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So good. And that's why it's doing so well, because it's a fascinating story and Doug solves a mystery. All right. Final thing. The first guest today was Steve Bannon, with whom I and frankly, we have a very interesting history. The audience is well aware by this point. What did you think following Steve Bannon and how you feeling about the whole thing?

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I will say in his defense, their other strategy of making me like an enemy who they were not afraid to bash worked very well and really communicated one of the core messages of Trumpism and MAGA, which is there are no sacred cows. We'll go after anyone, which is a really valuable message. Like that is what... The MAGA Corps wanted to hear wasn't about hatred for me or Fox.

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It was just like, yes, be that wrecking ball. Like we, too, have no sacred cows. The sacred cows are the ones held by an establishment that loathes or ignores us.

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Well, I know Steve Bannon actually had a rough 2024 in some ways. I mean, his show is great. He's great. But yeah, there was the whole prison sentence, which is part of the reason why he's like, F these guys. I mean, I know he's saying... It's not about personal retributions, but retribution. But you couldn't blame him if it were because what happened to him was grossly unfair.

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That's interesting. I don't know. I feel like I am... It's so funny to me, the arc of my own story with Steve, because I really couldn't stand him. I took it very personally when he was coming for me in that PBS documentary. And just with time, I really just... separated from those personal feelings. It wasn't that they went away.

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It was like a separation, you know, like they were still there and I understood why I had them. I didn't conclude that I was wrong. I just no longer felt, you know, the energy around them. And that morning that we started talking about, like, should we talk to him? I asked you because Abby was like, absolutely not. Never. I'll never allow it.

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And you and I had had that talk over our coffee that morning in the bed, you know, chatting. And you were like, I don't feel it either. That that animus toward him anymore. It's just we have so many common enemies and he's such an effective fighter.

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were on the wane and i started to appreciate him more as a tactical fighter yeah all right now i have two other points i want to get to on the subject of george stephanopoulos there was a funny and interesting exchange over on the podcast of our pals the real clear politics guys um andrew walworth uh tom bevin and carl cannon and they were talking about stephanopoulos and

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And just the ridiculous—as soon as he committed this error that cost them—error is being charitable—that cost them $16 million, ABC News re-signed him at a reported—it could be $19 million, could be $20 million, could be $25 million. Those are the three numbers I've seen reported per year. I mean, it's ridiculous.

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It's a total state sanction of his kind of journalism, which means ABC News likes it and wants a whole lot more of it. Well, great. You're going to get that. Yeah. Anyway, they started to get into a discussion about anchor salaries and this one in particular for Stephanopoulos and listen to this exchange. I heard it organically last night.

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He's going to be making, you know, around 20 million a year, which in any other business, if you were responsible for, uh, you were negligent in your job and cost your organization, uh, $15 million via a lawsuit, um, you probably wouldn't be rewarded.

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At that salary, he's sort of mid-range, I think, for anchors. Really? Yeah, for the morning shows. These anchors, they work very hard, long hours. Come on. And they have a lot of responsibility. They've got morals clauses that they have to live up to. It's... Andy, please. What would McLaughlin say?

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Oh, Megyn Kelly is going to light you up. We're going to be on her show next week. He's going to back in her doghouse, isn't he?

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Well, first, he got lit up the last time because he said Kamala Harris was like Winston Churchill. Oh, boy. Which Andy and I sparred over, which is crazy talk. And but... I was laughing about this and I love Andy. He's a great guy. That's a fun podcast to listen to. If you want straight politics and analysis, I really enjoy it. But, um,

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I don't have a problem with Stephanopoulos' salary, obviously. I'd love to see news people paid well if they deserve it. But I do think enormous money in news can have the effect of separating the anchor from his or her audience, from people who have real struggles. And I've actually asked myself, why – A couple, okay, so a couple of things. Why didn't that happen to me?

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Because I have made a lot of money in this business and I've got some thoughts on that. But secondly, to suggest what George does is hard work, I think is absurd. I love you, Andy, but that's absurd. I look around at my own family You know, my mom, lifetime nurse at the Albany VA. My stepfather, my dad who died when I was young was a professor, but my stepfather was a plumber.

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My stepsister's a nurse who works overnight ICU care. My stepbrother's a cop. Like these are people, I mean, my cop stepbrother puts his life on the line every day. And now he's retired, but he was for 20 plus years. You know, my mom and like dealing in blood and guts and lives and real trauma every day, like the amount of shit that these people have to deal with.

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Like these, nevermind a plumber, speaking of dealing with shit. My point is simply like news anchors like George Stephanopoulos at Network News have a red carpet rolled out for them when they show up to work. They've got tons of producers coming out of their ears who want to make their lives better. He has to wake up a little early.

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This is nothing to be remarked on. And the morals clause, usually they're written such that you really have to commit a crime almost to really be balanced on them or be a complete asshole. That's why most people don't get balanced off of them. That's nothing to live up to. Yeah. It certainly doesn't justify the enormous salary. They do it because they give the anchor a fraction of what they earn.

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On the Kelly file alone, the last year I was there, I know Fox made over $100 million in the advertising. So I made a nice salary there, nowhere near even what George Stephanopoulos was making there. But that's just because you're a moneymaker for them.

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No. Well, that was Carl's point. He was saying you can't get an anchor for 8 million who would do a great job. Come on. And he was absolutely right about that.

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I do think, especially in this failing news industry, the mainstream, the cable news industry, both of whom are hemorrhaging, hemorrhaging audience, these salaries should be rectified to, you know, bring them back down to the commensurate levels. My team did analysis for me. Actually, I have it here. It's actually really devastating what's happened to, you know, Nevermind network news.

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They used to be in like 5 million, 6 million a morning. Now they're down to like two and a half million. Their audience has been cut in half in the morning news.

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Yeah, probably even uglier. And in cable primetime, listen to this. We pulled the numbers. So primetime, we compared 2016 to 2024. At FNC, I was in the prime time in 2016. This is the key advertising demo of 25 to 54. The average for 2016 was almost 500,000, 481,000 in the key demo of 25 to 54 year olds this past year.

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So it's comparison, you know, 16 to 24, those are both big election years involving Trump. So they should be comparative. So 2024, the average demo on Fox, which is the number one network, was almost 300,298. So it's almost a 200,000 difference, 183,000. They lost almost 200,000. That's 40% of their key audience in the demo. And they're number one.

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Look at CNN in 2016, the demo, the average was 423,000. This past year, 151,000. That's a loss of 272,000 in their audience, which if my math is correct is 35% of their audience. Oh, wait, I just conflated a couple of numbers. Yeah, no, no, no, I have it right. And then MSNBC, 16, they averaged 270,000 in the key demo. This past year, 137. Wow. Which is a loss of 50. See, that's your math skills.

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The loss of 50% of their audience, they're hemorrhaging. By the way, the Kelly file, our average in the demo when we were on air that year was 569,000, which made us number one in audience. All of cable news, which is why I get so horrified when they talk about now the average in the MSNBC is getting down towards slashies, under 50,000. My average was almost 570,000 in the key demo.

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Cable news is a shocker. shadow of its former self, so is broadcast. So these numbers, like the Stephanopoulos number, are now a joke. They're just disproportionate to the work and the product.

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Okay. Last but not least, I'm jumping around, but I feel like we missed something important on our Christmas traditions and it involves one big night during our trip to Montana. And we all look forward to it.

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And I think it happened thanks to honest brokers like the ones who listen to this show, who are in the market for actual news, real facts, yes, opinion, but based on real facts and not misleading bullshit on one side or the other. So thank you to all of you very much. We've got two great guests today. I'm so excited about the guests we have to end out the year. The two Bs. Bannon and Brunt.

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But nine times out of 10, it's just us five and Ken, your brother, who we love. He's one of the core six. And we've done so many fun things. We did Wonka one year. We did Gilligan's Island one year.

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Cobra Kai. Cobra Kai. That was awesome. And so the way it's worked most years, not all, you did Gilligan's Island. That's actually in New Jersey because I love costumes year-round. That's in New Jersey where I made you wear a purple suit because we just did like a fun colors.

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Yeah, we did a fun colors party. But I love the costumes year-round. So over the Christmas season, and people could do this at home too, it happens to be yours truly because I love costumes, but I'll come up with a theme. And nobody knows what the theme is except for me. And we get to costume night. Annette. Yeah, Abby knows. She's critical. And Yezi, who helps us with the costumes.

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And what we'll do is I order fun backgrounds for like the main family room. Everybody has to stay in another part of the house. And I set up the stuff and then I set out everybody's costumes on their beds. And I say, okay, it's time. And everybody goes to their bedroom and they see the costume and the big theme is revealed. They put on their costumes and then we meet in the family room.

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And then we don't really do anything other than have a fun dinner and a fun night.

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So do you have any guesses on what this year's theme is going to be?

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No hints, no forecasts. I'm like Ruth Bader Ginsburg with the abortion confirmation hearing question.

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The Richard Bonin. How did I miss that? My gosh. Well, so no guess.

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But I will reveal to the audience when we get back what we did. And it is on point for the year that we've had. And it's something that everyone will love.

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I did consider that, but then I thought no one's going to want to go as Kamala Harris and Tim Walz, so I ixnayed it. Anyway, I think you're really going to enjoy it. I'm excited. I can't wait to show you, the kids, and ultimately the audience what we did. In the meantime... to our lovely audience. God bless you all. Merry Christmas. Happy Hanukkah. Happy New Year.

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Looking forward to coming back to you. I'm really looking forward to two weeks off with just the fam, but as you know, I always miss the show. It's like a little, it's like this thing inside of me that needs to happen each day. And when I don't get to do it, I feel like, but we do have plenty of new content for you while I'm gone.

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We are doing a true crime Christmas and then we'll be back right after the new year. So Duggar, thank you for making this possible as well.

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Love all of you as well. Send us an email at megan at megankelly.com and happy holidays. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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My husband, Doug Brunt, will come up in our second hour. And my team has prepared a special holiday quiz for me to take showing how well I know Doug's Christmas traditions and memories. I have not yet seen it, but I plan to ace it. So we will see how that goes in hour two. All right. And in our first guest, we have another important B, which is Steve Bannon. And here's where we're going to start.

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Part of the problem is, you know, most of the spending is on entitlement spending and no, no politician, including Trump wants to touch that Medicare, Medicaid, social security.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, and happy Friday. It's been a very busy week here at the show, down in D.C. for my exclusive Tulsi Gabbard sit-down on Wednesday, then in New York City with Dave Portnoy for the full show yesterday.

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If you haven't been, you can't talk about it. And I really appreciate, Link, you're recognizing the sacrifice that we were making and the risks from the silicone to the Botox to the Juvederm. I mean, you knew exactly where to zero in on the great scientific experiment that was that ride.

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That's right. So we planned ahead and we brought Sarah, who was our Lauren Sanchez-inspired character. She's not normally running around showing off her breasts. I am not. She looks more natural. Yeah. It was inspirational. Yeah, exactly. It was inspired by very inspired by a lot of videos. Did you have any hesitation when I, when I called you and said, would you like to go to space?

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And Sarah not only was the hairstylist in space, but also the pharmacist. She gave me one of those Zofrans. Is that right? Oh, yeah. Because what we actually wrote is officially nicknamed the Vomit Comet. Yep. And that was the last thing we wanted to do. We didn't see any of the Blue Origin ladies throw up and we'd be damned if we were going to throw up.

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So we took a Zofran and there was some nausea on my part. And we also had the bands. I don't know what would have happened if we didn't. I shudder to think. Yeah. Mark, I appreciate you referring to us properly as your brave space angels and astronauts. Let's not forget astronauts, too. And I also thought it was very wise of you to point out how LaGuardia really is the new Cape Canaveral.

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I do want to show the audience, you know, one of the things we know about the Blue Origin flight is that those ladies trained. It was it was long, in-depth training, as the commentators who were watching their launch pointed out. And we have some video of our training as well that we wanted to show the audience. Here's a little a bit of it. Let's put it on the board. Yeah, that's it. No, no.

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There was buckling of seatbelts. This is not the training. There was buckling of seatbelts. And you know what else there was? I mean, this is the true sacrifice. But Maureen, Sarah, and yours truly, we were not allowed to drink the night before and the morning of. Why don't you tell the people, Sarah, what we had to eat?

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For a limited time, get 40% off your first box, plus a free item in every box for life. Go to HungryRoot.com slash Megan slash MK and use code MK. That's HungryRoot.com slash MK, code MK to get 40% off your first box and a free item of your choice for life. HungryRoot.com slash MK, code MK. Without further ado, the world premiere of Blonde Origin.

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But exactly. If we're going to do a link, Lauren, I mean, you of all people can appreciate we ate huge bready carbs for this thing.

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Well, I have to say, not only did Sarah say yes immediately, but poor Maureen, who's now been dragged into two of these things. I mean, your acting career, Maureen, is off to a with a bang. I mean, I heard you reference it on your new show, The Nerve with Maureen Callahan. But I mean, you're like in awards ceremony territory now.

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I ask you, what can't we do? Nothing's coming to mind. I mean, as Mark pointed out, did you see me get that second drop of water? I mean, like a professional, sir. I.

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If you are non-binary, Afro-Latino, maybe you can win. Exactly right. Parody's so white, never, never wins the award. I have to say a huge shout out to our producer, Jake Whitman, who did both that and the Meghan Markle takeoff parody that we did, who is incredibly talented, put together those AI astronaut shots of us and got that flight. That is what our flight did.

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But I mean, I doubt somebody took actual video of our flight. And it was the night before that you were like, Jake's got to come. Oh, so we knew that Jake was going to produce this whole segment. But they had told us originally at Zero Gravity that we couldn't have a photog on board because he would get sick.

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They basically say only people who are very used to going up in zero G can look through a lens and not barf. And so they said no. And then Jake was like, well, they said you three can go up with them with GoPros. And I was like, oh, geez, we'll never survive with those GoPros. We'll be wailing them all over each other. I'm like, if we can bring up a GoPro, then we can bring up Jake.

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And so literally the night before, I'm like, do you want to come? And he too is brand new, you guys, to the MK Media property. And he was like, when do I show up? Welcome aboard. Mission accomplished. We're all going into space together. I have to say, I think that this was an important moment for America.

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I think this is the healing moment we needed, Maureen, in getting past the trauma of those morons two weeks ago.

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That's exactly right. And Sarah, did you accomplish your mission of making sure your number one priorities, Mark put it, that everyone's hair looks absolutely flawless.

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And I have to say, kudos to you for choosing the ponytail for yours truly. Yeah. Oh, we forgot to put on our hats. Oh, yeah. Oh, we forgot our celebratory. Oh, hold on. Wait. Hold on.

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I actually want to drive around with this. But the ponytail really worked up there because our goal was, of course, as with the other team, to be as frivolous as humanly possible while we lectured everybody that there was no frivolity. And I think we nailed that. I think Jake nailed that in the producing too, juxtaposing the shots.

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We were taking real risks and we are wearing the blonde origin hats. That is our merch. You can go to shop megankelly.com to get a variety of things, either these hats that we all have, um, the hats read Don't call it a ride. Have you been? There's a little notebook you can get with the label, I'm inspirational. There's a mug quoting Lauren Sanchez. So dark, so quiet.

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Lots of fun merch with our logo. I'm inspirational was my favorite. It's so dark. I'm not sure. Mark, you're the most seasoned journalist here. Does it work when the subject of a report tells the audience exactly what they should be feeling about her?

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I mean, I felt like lead the horse to water and maybe it will drink. Mm-hmm.

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So we've got to talk for a minute about how this came about. So, Maureen, we did our Meghan Markle parody and we were talking about these morons in that same two hour show we did two Fridays ago and how just how ridiculous they were and how self-congratulatory. Nobody would have made fun of them if they had just taken that flight and come back down and said, that was really cool. Wow. Amazing.

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But they took themselves so seriously. They literally were insisting that we call them astronauts. They were, Gail lectured us on how inspirational she was. I mean, it got crazier and crazier. And so you and I, as we are want to do, mocked them mercilessly. And that night, Doug and I went out to dinner and I was like, because we had played that Martha Stewart clip of her doing the zero G flight.

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And I'm like, we have got to do it. We've we Doug and I were talking about how I'm like, I got to get Maureen and we got to go back up there. And we were like, who who else could we get? That's where you came in, Link. We were like, Link would probably be our next victim. But he was too afraid. Yeah. And he had no breasts to show. So Sarah was actually a good choice.

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And in any event, I said to Abby, can you contact these guys and see how expensive this flight would be? You know, because it's probably not cheap. Literally the next day, without Abby having yet contacted them, they contacted me. They had seen the segment and they had the same idea. Like she probably would love to come up here and give this a try. So I didn't even have to hide from them.

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This whole thing was a massive troll. Pretend, like, I'm taking this very seriously as, like, part of my astronaut training. They knew we were up there to laugh.

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They were non-astronaut trainers on board the flight who we tried to, you know, preserve the privacy of. But, yeah, they were like, why are they taking themselves so incredibly sick?

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You know, I do. One of my observations was you watch them in that stupid, you know, vessel. And yes, they're like they're floating around that each person makes it about herself. Right. Like Katy Perry with her stupid Daisy. I mean, I had my strut wick. Yes. And whatever. They're all just promoting something or themselves. You look at what we were doing. What were we doing?

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My my lasting memory of the whole thing will be Maureen's amazing laugh. The best laugh ever. Like hearty, heartfelt. And the three of us slamming down on the ground over and over and crawling all over each other like puppies. We had so much fun. It was a blast. I would do it again right now. It was so much fun.

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They couldn't have fun while up there, nor could they make fun of themselves, which was, that's what spelled death for the whole project. Mo, thoughts?

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How do you come down and start lecturing everybody on how they need to be taking that kind of frivolity, theirs and ours, more seriously? I mean, it's like, they're so out of touch. They're still bitching about the backlash that they've received. Katy Perry's out there now saying the internet's a bunch of unhinged people, but I know my

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I mean, we also had our zero gravity astronaut suits tailored. Yeah, we did. We had them taken in. And I'll show that as a bonus on megankelly.com where we had a fitting where we tighter, tighter, cinch it, cinch it, lower, make it. We had to push up bras on. I mean, we were channeling our inner blue origin astronauts. We're all in the same club now. And by the way, I did look it up.

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And if you have trained for outer space, which we clearly did, you're an astronaut. You can call yourself that. It was like a website called like girlbot.com. But it counts. All right.

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Exactly. So I feel like it was the perfect way to kick off the MK Media Network for you three. Maureen, Mark and Link, you are officially, as we say in the astronaut business, launched.

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I do want to thank the good people of Zero Gravity. And full disclosure, they did comp one of our tickets. And yours really paid for the rest. And it was worth it. Every penny, I've never better spent my money. Not only did we do it, but I would do it again. I would recommend all of you do it.

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Do take the Zofran because it can get a little dicey on the stomach, but nausea without vomiting, that's fine. That's a win. I wish you guys were in studio so you could join us in this toast, but here's to blonde origin and to many more fun spoofs with all of you guys. Cheers, dear. Cheers. Cheers, dear. We need that bell. We need to ring the bell. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.

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Yes, on the next space flight. Okay, my thanks to Maureen, to Mark, to Link, the stars of MK Media. Please go subscribe to their podcast. Mark is next up. Maureen is the nerve and link. Do we have a name? Oh, spot on spot on.

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Yes. Links launch launches this week and all the fun is just beginning. And don't forget if you would like one of these fun hats or some of the other merch, like a mug or a notebook, they're all relatively low price points. You can go to shop Megan, kelly.com and get your blonde origin merch. So fun. Coming up, Mike Rowe is here. Don't go away.

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Visit Burna.com to find a Burna dealer partner near you. That's B-Y-R-N-A dot com. Katy Perry, Gayle King, Lauren Sanchez. Yeah, you know their names, sadly. But there are so many actually meritorious, deserving people whose names you should know and don't for actually doing something that does matter in their communities.

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And thanks to Mike Rowe, this is right on brand, and his new docuseries he's putting out. These people are great. going to enjoy their moment in the spotlight and for very good reason. The series is called People You Should Know, and it debuts today on Mike's YouTube channel. Here's a look at what you're going to get.

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Yeah, people you should know. Mike Rowe, great to see you. Hi, Megan. Cheers.

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Well, I mean, thankfully, I don't have that issue because people are recognizing me as an astronaut. Sure. I mean, you could see I had to get them in line and make them do it. They were falling down on the job a little, but then they got there. We actually did look up. like tell us a little bit more about actual astronaut training because that's, they are calling themselves astronauts. Yeah.

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And in Gail's defense, she says, I still have trouble calling myself that. But she does. But she worked her way through it. She overcame. Okay, here's like a couple of the things. All right, there's spacewalk training in NASA's Neutral Buoyancy Lab. You study the space station systems. Flying a T-38 jet. All of this is part of some astronaut training. Okay, there's... You have to be a U.S.

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citizen. You have to possess a master's degree in a STEM field, including engineering, biological science, physical science, computer science, or mathematics. I'm pretty sure that does not apply to Gail, Katie, or Lauren Sanchez, but okay. Lauren Sanchez is a pilot. I'll give her that. She flies helicopters.

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You do have to have at least 1,000 hours pilot in command time or two years of related professional experience. Perfect visual acuity. Blood pressure not to exceed 140 over 90. Standing height between 5'2 and 6'2. Excellent physical condition, so actually Lizzo is out.

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And then you have to, after you get selected by NASA, they report for training and then they spend the next two years, two years, not two days, like those morons in Blue Origin touted about their intensive training. two years learning basic astronaut skills like spacewalking, operating the space station, flying T-38 jet planes, and controlling a robotic arm.

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You have to complete military water survival before beginning your flying syllabus. You have to become SCUBA qualified to prepare for spacewalk training. You are exposed to problems associated with high hyperbaric and low hypobaric atmospheric pressures in the altitude chambers to learn to deal with emergencies associated with these conditions.

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And astronaut candidates are given exposure to the microgravity of spaceflight during flights in a modified jet aircraft as it performs parabolic maneuvers. That's what we did. Hello, I'm an astronaut, just like I said. It's not learning how to buckle your seatbelt.

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I mean, this is like a theme when you come on that we talk about bathroom and toilet issues, but let's be honest. It's the other function that you'd really be dreading with all of the NASA controllers watching.

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I don't think Sarah will mind me telling you that was her greatest fear. She gets really nervous or scared. Sometimes she has a GI issue.

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No one would turn away. Poor Jake, I'd have to give hazard pay too. It was bad enough he had to risk his life.

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So we have planned a little fun for you today to close out the week. We're going to have Mike Rowe joining us in just a bit, but before we get to him... We are going to bring you the full Blonde Origin world premiere. And then we will have on all the stars of the show right after, including Maureen Callahan, Mark Halperin, Link Lauren, and my friend and hairstylist, Sarah Clemente.

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Just to quickly interject, the folks who you see standing on that zero gravity flight are people who work for zero gravity. Sure. And they've done it so many times, they're not affected by it the way you or I would be. Right.

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Wait a minute. So... Now, with the benefit of hindsight, did you enjoy that ride?

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Well, because here's what happened to me when I was on the zero G. The first two are lunar. First three were like lunar gravity, which is not the full zero gravity. So your whole body doesn't levitate up to the ceiling, but you do levitate a little. And I was fine. But the one rule they gave us is when you're in between the parabolas, you lie down and they said, do not lift your head.

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As you lift your head against the Gs, you are gonna get sick. So of course I smushed myself down. I'm like, okay, I'm not letting that happen. Well, there was one parabola where the one guy was like, okay, get up, get up. And we tried, but we couldn't. So he had mistaken that it was time to levitate and it wasn't. And I did lift my head. And from that point forward, they were right.

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I felt like I was gonna hurl. And I didn't, thank God, but like halfway through that exercise, even though I still had fun, I was very worried that I was gonna throw up.

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But how could you enjoy being in an F18? Yeah. Like when you have thrown up, you feel nauseous and he keeps going. Yeah.

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What you're saying about not complaining is, of course, one of the main reasons that we're targeting them is they're just foolishness in messaging around the whole thing. So they went from self-aggrandizement to now complaining about the audience's reaction. And one of the lines on our mugs or in our hats is, have you been?

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Because Gail, in response to the criticism, tried to shut up all of America by saying you can't criticize her unless you've been. Right. Which is why we went. Now I've been. And it's on. Under her own rules, it's on, sister. I've now been. You're fair game. And I find you even more absurd than I did before.

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No, your guys. Like, your guys watching the series. Oh, those guys? Oh. Like, you want to stand up and cheer. Like, the guy who makes the beds. We can get into it in a minute. Oh, my God, yeah. All right, stand back. We're going to take a break, and then we'll talk a bit about it. It is inspirational, and you're right. We could have called it People You Shouldn't Know.

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You could, and you're welcome to. We all know the only reason we know Gail is because she's Oprah's best friend. I mean, that's very obvious to everybody. Stand by. More with Mike ahead. He's with me for the full show. One in two adults have high blood pressure. Many don't even know it. That could be a ticking time bomb. But here's the good news.

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You can try it yourself risk-free with their two-week trial. Just go to 120life.com and use the code MK to save 15% and get free shipping. You can track your progress with a simple blood pressure monitor. Watch your numbers drop and feel the difference.

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They're so sure that 120 Life can noticeably lower your blood pressure in two weeks that they will give you your money back if you're not satisfied. So you have nothing to lose but those high blood pressure numbers. Go to 120life.com. That's 120life.com. And remember to use code MK to save 15%. Mike Rowe is here. His new show is People You Should Know, and it premieres today.

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You can find it at The Real Mike Rowe YouTube channel. And now we've slapped a blonde origin hat on him. You can get yours by going to shopmegankelly.com or a mug or a notebook.

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Yeah. Join in on the mockery fun. I want to talk about your show, but before we do, we're on a great subject, which is like these rich and powerful people who are totally unaware of how people perceive them and how great their lives are and how little they should be complaining, period, never mind publicly.

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which leads me to Michelle Obama. Every day, she's dropped another negativity bomb on us, whether on her podcast or on someone else's. I mean, this audience knows she never says anything positive. It is all complaints. So she goes on another podcast. She's promoting her show, so she's making the rounds. The Diary of a CEO podcast and actually found a way to bitch and moan

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They both have planes and she's mad that you have to pay the cost of an airline ticket for the daughters to fly on them.

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She's aggrieved. She is immersed in a powerful and inescapable sense of grievance.

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No, no, no. She's she's angry. She's angry and unhappy. I've watched enough of her over the years. And then with this ridiculous podcast, she's trying to launch to see she's a deeply unhappy person.

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He's running for president. That one makes more sense to me strategically. She's like she should be in her therapist's office. Her brother Craig is not.

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Well, my feeling is Gavin Newsom is using people to build up his skills so that he can more effectively debate the Republican nominee in 2028.

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Yeah, which basically happened when Charlie Kirk went on. But that's not good. Gavin Newsom took some blows, but emerged having learned something, probably, that he'll be better at handling in 2028. And I just don't think it's the job of the right to help train this guy. I likened it to the Rocky versus Drago fight in Rocky IV. Why would we help train the Russian?

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I think that makes no sense. If the president of the United States invites you for dinner, you should go. No matter who. I would have gone if it were Joe Biden, Barack Obama. Absolutely. In a heartbeat, I would do that. You get to see the White House. Trump is very, he's gratuitous when you come there. He's gracious is the word I'm looking for. Yeah. He gives everybody a tour.

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It seems like almost everybody is shown the Lincoln bedroom. Who wouldn't want to see that? In fact, we have something very funny on this. Elon Musk just made news last night. Do we have that, you guys? We cut that on what happens when he sleeps over at the White House. Do we have it? I can't hear. If we have it, let's play it. Oh, it's not on tape. Oh shit. Okay. It's just him.

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Well, I remember what he said. He said, I'll be flying back with him, like on the helicopter or an air force one. And he'll be like, do you want to stay over? You know, like kids having a sleepover and they'll say, sure, I'll stay over. And he says, I sleep in the Lincoln bedroom.

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And then Trump always calls me like nine o'clock at night and says, Hey, you should go down to the kitchen and get yourself something to eat. There's a bunch of ice cream down there. So he said, I find myself in the white house kitchen eating a tub of ice cream.

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He said, don't tell Robert F. Kennedy jr. So yeah, it's like having, but I have to tell you something. I know a friend who went to the White House with his wife and Trump 1.0 and had almost the same story. They slept in the Lincoln bedroom. Trump offered them the ice cream. So not to take away Elon's specialness, but my point is he's very gracious and he's like a caretaker.

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Everybody says that about Trump. You go to golf with him in Mar-a-Lago or any one of his properties, he's constantly making sure that you've got drinks and you've got food and you're happy. Um, anyway, I just think, I don't know how we got on this line, but back to Michelle Obama, she's not happy. She's unhappy and she wants you to be too. She looks around at the immense opulence around her.

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She's literally complaining about the fact that even though the white house is free, the home is free. The staff are free. The 55,000 square foot home, by the way, on 18 acres is free, but she has to pay for her own food. Mike, she's got to pay for her groceries. Like everyone in America.

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I've gone in a different direction. It's fine. This is also gratifying in its own way. But to your point, it was just yesterday. And you know, it's spring. It's gorgeous. It's getting to be the good part of spring. The first half is so cold in the Northeast. It's really just a lame winter. But now we're getting, May is spectacular.

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And it happens like almost overnight where you go from empty branches to branches in full flower and the birds chirping and the flowers blooming, everything. And I was looking out my window thinking like, How many of these do you get? You know, if you're lucky, if you're really lucky, you get 85 or 90 of these.

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You know, and we're here on borrowed time. Like this doesn't belong to us. It belongs to God. It belongs to the universe. It belongs to the next generation and the one after that. So we're renters, right? Not owners.

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And you look out and you just think, savor it. Stop looking at your stupid device in your hand. Take in the flowering blooms. Smell the honeysuckle. Be glad to be alive. Treasure it right now. And I know it's trite. Everybody knows tomorrow's promised. But every once in a while you get one of those moments and it's a gift, right? Because you do think... I'm but a humble servant.

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And I'm so lucky just to be here. It's not some fancy house or fancy car or the fucking 55,000 square foot white house around you. It's those flowers. It's your rose garden, Michelle. It's your children. It's the way their hair smells. It's like all the greatness stuff that actually gets you out of bed in the morning.

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I just want them to say that as people who used to be in like that position of power for us. Yeah. He and she seem completely polar opposite. I actually think Barack Obama is an optimistic, relatively sunny person in his messaging and in the way he experiences the world, especially himself. But I just think in general, he's more, much more glass half full.

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And she is, I don't know if you're born with that or if you're raised wrong with parents who encourage you to lean into grievance as opposed to look out the window. Um, I'll tell you just on the Mike Rowe front, I had an experience you would appreciate. Was it yesterday?

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I came back from DC where we interviewed Tulsi and I took the train and I'm walking through the train station and this is actually down on the DC end. And, you know, it's dark and it's dank and it smells like oil and fumes. And it's kind of unpleasant, you know, for a minute there. You're like, I think I'm actively causing my lung cancer right now.

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And then I see this guy who is up on, forgive me, you probably know what this is called, but I don't. It looks like a crane. It's one of those things that the telephone guys get up on that takes them to the top of the- Cherry picker. Okay, yeah. So he's up on one of those and he's working on the top of like- he's not on the top of a train. He's on like the ceiling.

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That's got like those rails and he's doing something dangerous and important. And he looked young, Mike, he looked like 20 and he looked like he was having the time of his life. He was laughing. He's yelling down to a buddy down below. They were joking. He was smiling. He was covered in dirt to your, you know, your, your life motto.

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And, um, I thought, look at this guy in this dark, dank, smelly, dirty place with lots of danger, not just this cherry picker, but also this, the live rail that he's working on, all the wires, having a great time. And then you look at her and she's still, they have to be billionaires by now.

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Out on the yachts, the Martha's Vineyard, $22 million estate, totally thriving young daughters who went to Harvard and USC. It's never going to be good enough. It's a mind frame, right? It's like your choice of how you're going to go through this life.

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Well, you make it your business. I mean, when I was watching episode one about Lenzy, L-E-N-Z-Y, I thought this is such a great way to spend your time. Like Mike Rowe makes good life decisions, which is why there's like this peacefulness to you. You sort of emanate this positivity. It's a champagne. More than the average Joe, I have to say, you do.

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And like you make it a point of spending your life around these people. And even like this poor woman talks to you openly about how for 10 years she was on meth.

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And you were saying, like, I didn't know somebody had a story of 10 years on meth.

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But she didn't lose her life. She turned her life around and she devotes herself to helping other people now.

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Well, what I love about it is you're very honest on it. And of course, we've talked many times in the show about how if you're not authentic with this audience, you die. And so you'll be like, that was boring. Yeah. Who says that in the middle of their own show?

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You're very open with the audience about how you're experiencing the making of it. Let's just look at a clip. This is Lindsay in episode one.

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And it only gets better from there. And it's not just Lindsay. Can you talk about the guy with the beds?

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What's extraordinary, too, is that she gets help. She turns her life around and then she gives back. I think it's probably very easy to just skip that last step and try to stay treading water.

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And worried that if you do try to help the next drowning man, you're going to go down too. They don't have the emotional reserves, a lot of folks, to go back for the next guy.

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Okay, now you're obsessed with this. You're back on the second bodily function. And I'm going to tie it all together now.

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I've got a crack team. And this is why I get paid the big bucks here at The Megyn Kelly Show. Show me. I will now tie together everything the audience has heard in the last hour and a half with this clip from when Mike Rowe interviewed astronaut Scott Tingle. Here it is. It's at 32.

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Okay, for the listening audience, for the first half of that soundbite, Mike Rowe is listening to him like he's watching the Gettysburg Address. The seriousness with which you listened, I really think you thought you were going up into space the next day. This was issue number one. You needed to work out before doing it.

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That's such a nice compliment to you, Mike, that he chose you. What a very cool call to receive.

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Well, we were talking about this in the break privately, but I'm sure you'll talk about it publicly here, but this is not the first time somebody has at random just called you up and asked you to do something and you have no idea why they chose you. Um, recently I was once again on the time 100 list. Oh, congratulations. Yes. Thank you very much. They basically needed a conservative quota filled.

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Um, and, uh, So they do a write-up in Time Magazine about you. And I knew that from the first time.

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Yeah, but the first time it happened, they actually asked me who I wanted to have write it up. And I said, my boss, Brit Hume, and he did it. But this time around, they never asked. I figured out maybe they don't do those anymore. I don't know, whatever. Then I read it, it hit online and it was Laura Trump who wrote it up. A lovely, lovely little like blurb about yours truly.

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She didn't tell me she was doing it. I know her a little, not well. I texted her, I mean, like, this is so kind of you. She's very busy. I'm like, I really, really appreciate it. Like very grateful. Didn't have to do it, but you did. You got one of these, well, you were also on the Time 100 podcast.

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It's very cool. I mean, I do feel the need to point out once again with the poo-pooed, it's like an obsession.

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You have me figured out entirely. This is why we bonded. All right. Stand by. We're going to take a quick break. I think you know where the conversation is going to go next. His new show is called People You Should Know. It's on his YouTube channel, The Real Mike Rowe. Check it out tonight. These days, it feels like nothing surprises us anymore, right? But not necessarily in a good way.

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Mike, have you been following closely the first 100 days of the Trump presidency?

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Well, it's funny you should say that because just yesterday we were doing the show and we were talking about how the news was that Mike Wallace was going to be fired as the national security advisor. News Mark Halpern broke, but Politico later claimed that it broke, even though they were two and a half hours behind him.

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And even when told you're being disrespectful to Mark Halpern, who broke this news much earlier than you did, they refused to take down the tweet. Right. totally on brand politico. You do not care what the facts are. And even when called out, you refuse to acknowledge them on your massive mistakes. In any event, that's how we ended the show yesterday.

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And within like five minutes of closing out the show, it hit that he was indeed being moved out of the position and over to you and ambassador. We So it's like the whole story changes in 24 hours is a brand new, you know, theme story. Marco Rubio filling in now as both. Well, permanently for the time being secretary of state and national security advisor.

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And now people are saying he's got the inside line on becoming the next pope. That's just the joke. He wears so many hats. Right. Why not the big one? That's a big hat. Yeah, really big. So Marco Rubio's stock is up. I don't know whether Mike Walz's stock is up. I don't think it is. I think this is Trump giving him a soft landing someplace.

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There's rumors that this guy, Steve Witkoff, who's been an amazing envoy for Trump, negotiating peace in the Middle East, negotiating peace with Russia and Ukraine, is probably going to get it. I don't know whether that's true. But yeah, to your point, you wait two minutes and the whole news cycle has changed.

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Well, you know, in news, Brit Hume told me this very early in my career because it's so there's so much volume. And I remember being in awe at the reporters and the anchors in particular who could go on the air and just vamp during breaking news. There's no script. There's no prompter. There's no editorial. You're just following, you know, like this plane is down in the Hudson River.

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You know, who's this guy? There are people coming out of the wing. What's happening? How can you do that? How do these anchors do it? And he said, just stay steeped in the news. If you just stay steeped in the news, you'll be fine. And he was so right.

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You, even if it's a slow news day, you have to read everything, read all your papers, read all your online favorite sites because news is so incremental. So if you, if you have it baked in there and then you just get the next day's tiny developments, I know somehow it stays in there.

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7, 8, 9, 10 Gs is crazy. On the zero gravity flight, it was like 1.8. Oh, yeah.

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You know what has a lot of G's? I don't know what the number is, but you ever go on the Aerosmith ride at Disney?

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You sit in it, you get like the serious strap in, you know, from the automatic thing that comes down and then you kind of get sucked in, you know, you're not going anywhere, which is nice. You feel safe. Sure.

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And then instead of the normal roller coaster, which is like click, click, click, click, click, click, click, you know, up, up the hill, which is actually kind of fun and part of the anticipation, you just take off like a bat out of hell and it's measured in G's.

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That's the riskiest job ever. You're a walking lawsuit waiting to happen.

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Not everyone can do it. I've been laughing since last June. We went to Scandinavia with a fam. And we were there for almost two weeks. We went to Sweden. We went to a couple of other countries. In any event, so when we were in, it was Denmark. we went to this amusement park. It's pretty famous. And it's reportedly the amusement park that Disneyland was based on.

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Walt Disney went and Covent Gardens. And it's so charming, completely adorable. Like you want to move in there. So we went and we got on this roller coaster, which is called the , which I believe is roller coaster in Danish. And it was so tame that it only had the little like bar that comes down to your lap, you know, just like the little silver bar, that's all.

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And so tame that it had an actual man who was about 200 who operated the manual brake while riding it with you. Right. And so tame that the queen of Denmark, she I think she recently passed the baton down to her son, who's now the king. But she was riding it like when she was 84 years old. OK. But my husband, Doug, who, you know.

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does get some motion sickness. He didn't throw up, Mike, but you know how you get the pictures after the fact of your rollercoaster ride? I took one look at those family pictures and I almost split a side open laughing. So I was at a 90 degree angle. I had projectile tears coming out of my eyes. I was went over to the guy at the booth. I'm like, whatever you want for it, I'll pay it.

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Well, you know what? Then again, keeping with the theme of tying it all together, so did Blue Origin. It tied us together right and left. I was out there agreeing with Amy Schumer. Yeah. And Olivia, what's her name? Wilde. Yeah. She and I were on the same page. Amazing. It united the country in mocking their absurdity. It really was something. What a public service they provide.

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Truly, without meaning to. One of the things I love about watching the video of us on our space mission is how much fun you can see the three of us. We had so much fun. It was... You levitate. You're lying down on the ground. And before you know it, you are... Look at that. You are levitating up and you can fly. It's not like swimming.

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I thought it would be like swimming in water, but there's no resistance. And then you slam to the ground.

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Well, that's part of it, right? I love the bit where Sarah... kind of shows her chest, you know, mockingly, you know, making fun of Lauren Sanchez. Because what happens right after that is we fall on the ground and what you can hear in like the raw clip and you pretty much in this one too is me hysterical laughing, saying, Sarah, because in the moment I knew how funny it was.

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So it's like, you're right. There's something happening with the three of us up there that is especially fun, joyful, vulnerable in like a very great way because we're mocking others and ourselves.

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You know, this is reminding me, and they threw us jelly beans too, which you can see. This is reminding me for some reason of the story that a woman told about Tucker Carlson, who was on the show this week, and a dear friend. I love him. People say the nastiest things about him.

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He's a great guy. He's totally misunderstood by the media and probably willingly and the left. But there was a great story about him before the before Trump's Republican National Convention speech. Tucker spoke out there, as did many folks that you should know. Yeah. And he was backstage with a civilian who had been asked to speak about something.

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I can't remember who it was, forgive me, but he could tell that she was nervous. She told the story. He could tell that she was nervous and he sat down with her and introduced himself and they started chatting and she was talking about how nervous she was. And he said, can we pray about it? And Tucker's really just kind of coming into his own religiously.

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Like he hasn't been exactly like a holy roller, forgive the term, but he's coming into it like in full flower right now. And so he held her hand and they said a prayer together. And I just thought like, that's, there's something so cool about like, they're both backstage. They're both giving a speech. Even Tucker probably had some nerves. Cause that's a big one. Sure.

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And this regular gal whose name we don't know was feeling it overwhelmingly. And then it's sort of like, God sends you an angel to remind you, like, everybody feels this. You're not abnormal to feel nervous before a speech like this, but I got you. And even if you fall on your face, like we're good people, there's, they're going to love you even more, you know, if you screw it up.

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You know, that would have been a good title to the people you want to know people you should know is the title before we end, because we're going to get cut off soon. Did they go to YouTube and type in The Real Mike Rowe and they'll find your channel?

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Like and subscribe. Oh, God. Smash that like button for Mike Rowe, everybody. Smash it real hard.

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You are the party, my friend. The party will find you. It is wherever you are. Thank you so much for being here.

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Don't call it a ride. Don't call it a ride. Don't forget to go to shopmegankelly.com. Support the mission, not a ride. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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Not just to girls and women, either. Boys, too. Boys and men. They all find me very inspirational. How was the ride? I don't appreciate when people call it a ride. It's not a ride. They never say that for the other astronauts. It's a flight, it's a mission, okay? There's nothing frivolous about what we just did, okay? It was a flight, it was a mission, and it was mission accomplished.

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Yeah, hi guys, it's MK. Look, I don't know what's happening here, but I don't hear us being called astronauts enough. Or at all. You know, we did the same flight path as Alan Shepard. Astronauts. Astronauts. Okay, I'd like to hear that a bit more, please. Please focus on what matters. I would really appreciate it. I gotta run. I have some more selfies to take. But thanks so much for your coverage.

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Oh, God. So good. Okay. And now joining me, the stars of the show here in studio with me, Sarah Clemente. plus the stars of MK Media, our new network, Maureen Callahan, Mark Halperin, and Link Loren. Guys, Mark and Maureen and Link, what a launch for your podcasts, both literally and figuratively. Mark Halperin, I never knew you were so funny, but that was hysterical. Well done, you guys.

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100 percent. Exactly. So, Maureen, I haven't gotten to see I showed it to Sarah this morning as she was doing my hair. But that was your first view of it. What did you think?

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Media responds to the remarks, not surprisingly, largely favorable. NBC News, quoting a former Harris senior advisor, granted anonymity to speak, quote, candidly, saying, there is a clamoring for her voice right now. No one can better prosecute the case while inspiring a call to action than the former vice president.

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On Thursday, Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller and Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt responding to her remarks.

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And that'll do it for your AM Update. I'm Megyn Kelly. Join me back here for The Megyn Kelly Show, live on SiriusXM Triumph Channel 111 at noon east, on YouTube.com slash Megyn Kelly, and on all podcast platforms.

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Support faith, family, and freedom with every call and text you make. Don't wait. Do it today. Go to patriotmobile.com slash Megan or call 972-PATRIOT. Use promo code Megan and get a free month of service. That's patriotmobile.com slash Megan or just call 972-PATRIOT. National Security Advisor Mike Walz ousted from his role, though not ejected from the administration.

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President Trump posting to Truth Social on Thursday, quote, I am pleased to announce that I will be nominating Mike Walz to be the next U.S. ambassador to the United Nations. The president tapping Secretary of State Marco Rubio as acting NSA advisor, in addition to his day job, until a replacement is announced.

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Embattled National Security Advisor Mike Walsh ousted from his post, but secures a nomination to UN ambassador.

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Mark Halperin, host of NextUp on the MK Media platform, breaking the news ahead of all major media outlets.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Friday, May 2nd, 2025, and this is your AM Update.

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Axios later reporting Mr. Walz's troubles went beyond Signalgate. the March incident in which Mr. Walz accidentally added the editor-in-chief of The Atlantic, Jeffrey Goldberg, to a Signal group chat discussing attack plans against the Houthis. The outlet reporting Mr. Walz got on the wrong side of everyone, from Chief of Staff Susie Wiles to MAGA influencer Laura Loomer.

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Mr. Walz is known for his hawkish stance on Iran at a time when some in Trump's inner circle worry the administration is edging toward open conflict. On Thursday, Trump ally Charlie Kirk weighing in on the reports.

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As for who may replace Mr. Waltz, Mark Halperin reporting the leading contender for the job is Special Envoy Steve Witkoff. Political reporting other top contenders include Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller and NSC Senior Director for Counterterrorism Sebastian Gorka, and Trump's Special Envoy for Special Missions Richard Grinnell.

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In an exclusive interview with The Megyn Kelly Show, Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard reveals the Trump administration may soon be able to prove exactly how the COVID-19 pandemic started. Did Anthony Fauci fund the experiment? HHS drops a massive report highlighting the risks of medical interventions on children expressing gender dysphoria.

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In an exclusive interview this week, Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard joining The Megyn Kelly Show, discussing a range of topics from national security leaks to the origins of COVID to what her own political future may hold. In mid-April, The New York Times reporting, citing unnamed officials, that Israel wanted U.S.

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help in striking Iranian nuclear sites as early as next month, but was waived off by President Trump, whose top aides convinced him to instead pursue a nuclear deal with Tehran. The report describing high-level internal deliberations among Trump's top deputies, including Vice President J.D. Vance, D.N.I. Gabbard, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, and Chief of Staff Susie Wiles.

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Director Gabbard addressing the leak directly with us, blasting it as illegal and damaging.

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Do you feel the push, Tulsi, the push of this like strong neocon strain that's still within the Republican Party and probably in these agencies growing? That's much more hawkish on an issue, including war in the Middle East, which we've just done for 20 years.

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On COVID, Director Gabbard confirming the Trump administration is actively studying the true origins of the pandemic and whether Anthony Fauci's funding for the group EcoHealth Alliance had anything to do with it.

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Well, let me ask you specifically, because we already know that EcoHealth Alliance was partnering with this Wuhan lab to create, to do gain-of-function research. That's right. We just have never been able to have somebody say, and it was that exact experiment that led to this COVID bug. But have we gotten there? What's the new thing that you're digging in on?

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I mean, that would be extraordinary because just so the audience knows, if that's true, if it was Peter Daszak's research with the Wuhan so-called bat lady that caused this pandemic, then we did fund it. Then Anthony Fauci helped fund the pandemic.

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For years under the Biden administration, officials, including Dr. Fauci, publicly denied any responsibility for funding the research that may have sparked the pandemic. As far as what the future holds for DNI Gabbard, she did not rule out another run for the White House, including in 2028.

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The full interview is available on The Megyn Kelly Show feed on YouTube and wherever you get your podcasts. Coming up, HHS drops a massive report on the current treatment guidelines for the increasing number of children diagnosed with gender dysphoria, calling out the risks of so-called gender-affirming care.

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And Trump World celebrates the return of former Vice President Kamala Harris to the national spotlight. Are you a yo-yo dieter? You diet, lose weight, then you gain it all back plus a few. Then later you lose it again and the same cycle continues. Well, that can be dangerous.

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Check it out. The health and human services department on Thursday, dropping a massive 409 page review of treatment guidelines for children with gender dysphoria, a condition where a person feels there may be a mismatch between his or her biological sex and and how that person views their gender.

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From the report, quote, medical and surgical interventions for children and adolescents with gender dysphoria are widely promoted as essential and even lifesaving, yet the evidence base does not support strong conclusions about their effectiveness in improving mental health or reducing dysphoria.

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The report strongly emphasizes prioritizing behavioral therapy over medical interventions like puberty blockers and surgeries, including the benign-sounding top surgery, where girls receive double mastectomies to create a male-appearing chest. Diagnoses of gender dysphoria in children surging in recent years.

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LexisNexis Risk Solutions reporting in December the number of insurance claims for gender identity care. Critics call it self-mutilation for people under the age of 18, spiking 133% from 2019 to 2023. Current guidelines recommend starting puberty blockers in children as young as eight years old.

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According to the HHS report, it is rare for children to start puberty blockers and then stop treatment entirely, and there is little data about the long-term effects of this intervention. Left alone, the vast majority of these children will outgrow their gender confusion.

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Most children who begin puberty blockers then graduate to cross-sex hormones, a course of action which can lead to sterility, loss of sexual function, and permanent physiological changes, results to which a minor cannot possibly give informed consent. As the number of children undergoing these treatments grows, so do the voices of those who say they were misled, like Chloe Cole.

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Diagnosed with gender dysphoria as a child, Ms. Cole began medical transition at 13, before later detransitioning.

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The report, commissioned by President Trump in January, is part of the administration's broader effort to root out what it calls woke ideology from taxpayer-funded health policy.

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The president has signed a series of executive orders aimed at eliminating federal support for gender transition procedures in minors, including bans on the use of public funds for puberty blockers, cross-sex hormones, and gender-related surgeries. Deputy Press Secretary Stephen Miller on Thursday underscoring the administration's message to hospitals and providers.

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Former Vice President Kamala Harris returning to the national stage on Wednesday, delivering a 15-minute speech at a gala for a progressive organization dedicated to electing more women to office. The former Veep painting the first 100 days of the Trump administration as an authoritarian nightmare.

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describing the administration's agenda as, quote, a narrow, self-serving vision of America where they punish truth-tellers, favor loyalists, cash in on their power, and leave everyone else to fend for themselves. Ms. Harris then offering this vision on the path forward.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Okay, this is going to be the greatest show we've ever done. I just want you to know today is going to be the greatest show we have ever put on the air in the history of The Megyn Kelly Show. Well over 1,000 episodes, and if I'm a liar, you can email me. We're going to nail this show.

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I mean, truly, if you can see the graphics, he's laid in all these pictures of me as a fake Royal with a tiara, by the way, it's all AI. Those are all AI photos, right? It looks amazing. It really looks like I'm a beekeeper.

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And me is like with my roast turkey and with my chickens. Look, me with my tiara and my chickens that I'm clearly raising and getting eggs from. That looks amazing. This is all fake. It's AI. It's crazy how good it is. And he's laid in these little... There's yours truly and Doug in our royal carriage. The headlines, like the slate in front of the scenes include...

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how to make microwave popcorn, how to put pretzels in a bag. And the other thing you don't get when you're just listening to it is Maureen's expert side eye to the camera.

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It's just funny. You were like, it's so nice to be here in your kitchen, which is exactly what we do with friends. You know, we take them to the kitchen, we put them to work when they come over.

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Anything could happen. Exactly. Okay. So now we're going to play part two for you. And, uh, this is part two of two, although there is a part three that, you know, we'll see. Um, but for today we have two parts and, um, I think you're going to enjoy this just as much. Here we go. I'm back. Okay, here we are. I like to keep this on hand just for life in Connecticut.

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I think this is the earliest that I've had alcohol in a long time. Oh, welcome to Montecito.

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There we go. Good times. Am I going to get hammered? No, that's why I'm feeding you. I think people are happier when they're around me if they're intoxicated. There we go, a little bit more. Ah, oh wait, it's very important to me to put a little fruit in my bubbly. I think it elevates it.

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It's very important to me. My dearest friends know it's Megan, like the month of May. Right, right, right, right, right. Don't worry, if something gets on your white clothes, you can just give it to your maid and she will take care of it.

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I think it's important that we elevate our ice cubes. I feel like too many people foam this portion of the day in. Learn like I have to elevate the ice cubes. You'll have more friends and more people will give you compliments. This is what we have to use, my friend. Still water that's natural and bottled. Do not just use tap water. So we fill up the ice tray. Here, you try it. Anyone can do it.

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Oh, okay. You don't hold it like that. You just hold it higher up on the neck.

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Great job, but it's not just gonna be regular ice cubes, Maureen. We're gonna put flower petals into the ice tray. It's like a Markle Sparkle situation. Could you please grab some? Sure. What do those flowers say on them? There's like a tag. Non-edible. That's fine in small doses. And then we're just going to drip them into the ice tray. Okay, we're just gonna pop them right into the freezer.

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Oh, that reminds me. Oh, completely forgot. Yeah? We were gonna make my special sun tea.

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Elevate it, you might say. Okay, here we go. So the dog treats, okay. Dog biscuits. I'm gonna let you just follow what I've written down my instructions while I, I think it's time for an outfit change. Will you keep working and I'll be right back.

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And I'm back. Fresh as a daisy. So you're well on your way with the dog biscuits. That's important. On a lightly floured surface, we're going to roll out the dough.

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I saw this coming. Ta-da! I already... You already made them. I already made them perfect. And guess what? Since you already know this because you made them, they can be eaten by humans too.

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Oh, thank you. It's just the kind of house I run. Look at that perfect amber color. No one else has ice sprinkles. Cheers, dear. No problems whatsoever.

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This is how I live. This is how I live. I just wear black formal sparkles during the day. There's another scene that we'll get to in which we are, we elevate the outfits even more and we go black tie. And that's why we then have fur on in this latest scene. But yeah, Strudwick was his typical terrible self, which will come to the surprise of no one listening to this show.

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And for the listening audience, you could see him at the end. He got up. We left to go do a wardrobe change. And Jake had the cameras rolling and caught Stradwick, of course, immediately jumping up and eating all the stuff that we had prepared. So we caught that on camera. And the little headlines in this one were, how to put fruit in champagne. This is the stuff you get from Meghan Markle's show.

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How to make ice cubes. Literally, this is what she's doing. And then the edible flowers was a whole story in and of itself because... Jake, the producer, he went to like five different stores, grocery stores and flower stores to try to find edible flowers. And what they said was at the grocery stores, they were all like, oh, we got rid of those years ago. They were way too expensive.

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They're just, they're ridiculous. They die right away. It's not worth it. And that the floral shops, they said, we should never eat flowers. They're toxic. They're covered in pesticides. They're only for looking, you know? And so that's why they have that little sticker on those flowers. Like do not eat, not edible.

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And so she's trying to market these edible flowers, which I guess, are they grown in her garden with no pesticides and no toxins whatsoever? I don't know, but you cannot buy these as a real person anywhere. You have to conveniently buy them from her.

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The sunflower? Yeah. So hopefully we'll get to in the third installment all the cooking we did because we actually did a fair amount of cooking and chopping and mixing. It was hard labor.

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You really were. And then the kicker was we finished that up. It was a four-hour shoot. We finished that up and I had to do AM update. I had to tape that early that day because we had plans that evening. So I'm like half in the bag from all the champagne we had. And then I had to do this hour and a half long thing with Stanford Business School. I'm like, how did that go?

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You guys have no idea what I spent my afternoon doing. You have no idea what I've been through. Yeah.

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It's funny too. Cause then of course the next day I'm sitting with Marty McCary and I'm like, I have the most bizarre variety in my job of pretty much anybody I know, like sitting down at the FDA and pretending to be Meghan Markle, Duchess of Sussex the day before.

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The true is so fun. The truest line I think was spoken in that segment was, this was me in the character of Ms. Markle saying, people seem to like me a lot more when they're intoxicated.

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On the subject of the weird photos of, you know, the AI photos of the princess version of me. She's not a princess. She's a duchess at best. Jake, he was asking you and me if we had any photos of ourselves when we were little girls in the kitchen. And not surprisingly, we didn't. I knew you wouldn't either. No, of course. We were never in the kitchen.

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Do you have little pictures of you cooking as a kid? I was like, are you kidding me? First of all, I grew up in the 70s. There are no pictures. And I was the third kid. There are no pictures of me. There was zero interest in me. But honestly, I was not an attractive child. So it's fine. It worked out. No, I swear. I'll prove it to you.

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But Jake ran our actual, like our present day photos through this AI generator that was making these photos. And let me tell you something, Maureen. It doesn't work like that, okay? Let's start with the one of Maureen and put it on the board. See what AI came up with.

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Oh, it's nothing compared to what you're about to see, but stand by. Let's just keep it on this one for a second. It's like a Maureen. It is an adult picture of Maureen's face and Maureen's kind of hair on like a little body. It's been just shrunk. It's like been miniature. I've been miniaturized. You look like a magical, mythical creature. Not so much. That's like a Keebler elf. Not like a child.

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Yeah, like elf. I do. I do. Okay. But now I definitely look like a little person. Look at the one they came up with for me.

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It's me with my current hair and my current face, but smaller in like a little person's body. Something about this is incredibly disturbing and creepy and the kind of thing that you'll have nightmares over.

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Perfect. Oh, that's the other thing. And do you know, I found this out later that in a real kitchen, chefs are not allowed to wear any makeup. Really? I didn't know that. Of course the hair has to be back. Right. And they're not allowed to wear any makeup. So it's like all this stuff she's doing with like her big lashes and on their lip gloss.

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It's like, okay, you might want to be careful before you touch that much food and hover over the, the, the pat, the pot and the pan. And, um, What was the other thing about how he shouted? I lost it. Anyway, the whole thing, Maureen, was so much fun. It was very cathartic.

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She's so easy to parody, let's put it that way. I don't think it's exactly excoriating. There's some healthy mocking, but let's face it, she deserves it.

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Oh, my God. In some of the other clips, which I'm sure we'll get to, it's Maureen, anytime she tries to say anything about herself, I talk over her.

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I'm sure everyone is more interested in me. That's pretty much how she feels. Yeah, of course. She's fascinating. Oh, this just in. This just in. We've been renewed for a second season.

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So, you know, when you're a founder, good things just keep finding you, you know, I, there is so much truth in that basic aphorism. I never realized. All right. We're not leaving her quite yet because, um, she's in addition to this show launched another podcast about, uh, Founders. What else? Founders.

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Yeah. No, it's all her weird self-help talk. We're getting at some of that in our little bit. But if you listen to this podcast, like the earlier one, it's all like she's overly therapized. She's classic, like this younger generation that has spent too much time online trying to explore themselves. And she said something to the woman I heard in episode two who did... Girls Who Code.

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We all get it, and we all needed this. I'm going to show it in a minute, but before we get... And Maureen hasn't seen it, okay? I intentionally withheld it from Maureen. I have seen it and I died. I died multiple times over. I laughed so hard. Abby and I watched it together. Our stomachs hurt. We were laughing so hard.

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Yeah, I don't know. Whatever. And the reason, of course, she's on is because apparently Meghan Markle put some money toward that company. And so this was a chance for this woman to be like, you're so amazing. Oh, my God. You invested in me. You support people. It was completely just a setup for that.

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She was eating it up. Thank you. I know. It's so hard. It's so hard. That's what her show is about, really. It's all secretly a cover for her. The Netflix show that we just parodied, this podcast, like she was talking to this woman of Girls Who Code. And of course, the woman referenced 10 times being a woman of color, a woman of color, how hard it is. I mean, she's an Indian.

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So like, not for nothing, like they're not exactly oppressed. Thank you. Thank you.

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We're going to keep the sound down here on the set as we watch it because we don't want to ruin it for you guys with our laughter. But before we get to that, I do want to start with the trailer for The Nerve. You all love Maureen and I love this trailer because it really does give you a feel and a flavor for who she is because a lot of people don't know her yet and they're about to. Watch this.

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And I know because I've already seen half of it. Let me explain. Welcome, everybody. Just back from D.C. And by the way, check out my hour-long sit-down with FDA Commissioner Dr. Marty McCary. You guys know him from Johns Hopkins and from being a COVID contrarian in the best sense. a man of sense who is for that reason elevated to run and reform the FDA by president Trump.

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I will. I will. I'm subscribing now. The Nerve with Maureen Callahan. You guys love Maureen. Do it. Support her and make sure we get her voice out there. Thank you, Megan. And while I have your attention, Joseph Massey, who is on promoting his poetry book, America is the Poem.

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Is it, Michelle? It's not. I've been married for 17 and a half years and not one was bad. I think she and he married the wrong people.

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She's constantly... You see the other one where she had the three balls on the back of her head? And I think it was Benny Johnson was calling it her stegosaurus cut.

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It's amazing. Every word she says about Barack Obama is negative. I can't think of her sitting there just waxing poetic about him, complimenting, he's brilliant, he's a great dad, he was the greatest president, whatever a normal wife of Barack Obama would say.

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Every time she opines, it's something that reflects poorly on him, how he's insensitive, how he's not a talker, how he doesn't know how to relate to people, he doesn't keep the same schedule as she does. And now we're talking about... You can have a bad decade in a marriage.

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has now risen not only well past Maria Shriver on the number one under poetry, but his book went up to number 18 in all books in America on Amazon. That is remarkable. Still in the top 50. God bless you, Megyn Kelly Show viewers. God bless you for helping Joseph Massey. We have uncanceled him. We have single-handedly the audience of this show uncanceled Joseph Massey.

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And we would never know who you are if it hadn't been for him. Exactly. Like, I'm sure she would say the reverse. He would never have been president if it hadn't been for her. Like, she was the inspo. She was the strength and the force behind the man. But, you know, he was very young.

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We just actually saw a video of him speaking on the campus of Harvard Law School in favor of like more black professors and so on. He still had the Barack Obama orator skills like he he was obviously a star in the making from a very young age, very young age. I'm sure she thinks it's her, but I think it actually was him.

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And some of his ex-girlfriends talk about how he made a choice to align with like this strong black woman, as opposed to the white women he'd been dating. And he's half white too, right? And so like to get him the street cred he needed with Chicago voters where he started and she was it.

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And yet now she's doing a podcast, which we are only listening to, by the way, we're not listening to it because she's former first lady. Right. That's the no one listens to a former lawyer from I think it was Jenner and Block do a podcast on with their brother on her thoughts on relationships. We're doing it because he made you first lady, but she does not have a kind word for him.

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She has a great speech writer. Yes. She does not have the gift of the spoken word that she's led us to believe she has in these speeches. She can deliver it. She clearly is not writing them.

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Or even, I listened to you Maureen, long before I ever saw you in person or spoke to you, I was reading you. And One of the things that made me fall in love with you just on paper is just how witty you are. And I love the acerbic pen, you know, against the right people. And you're very smart. And I've said this to my audience about you when you're not here.

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It's just like you always say something different. You don't comment any story with the same talking points that we hear everywhere else. And then I meet you in person, exactly the same. Everybody listens to you. Even on the show, you say things, even on your tease for the nerve, like I will be studying it like the collapse of the Roman empire or whatever it was. That's you.

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You can see it's the same person who is writing and speaking. And it's exactly the opposite with her because she's a phony.

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The only person who has fewer watchers and listeners is Chuck Todd and the Chuck Todd cast, which I think might be up to like, maybe he's got 2000 now. I don't know. We haven't checked in a while, but you know, big splash in the New York Times. That day we looked, he had 1400 subscribers. It was very sad. I mean, he hosts Meet the Press, this guy. Okay.

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So speaking of women who think they're all that in a biscuit, I haven't gotten you to weigh in on our newest astronauts and their accomplishment. Yeah. The latest on these ladies is Martha Stewart. God bless Martha Stewart. Decided to weigh in. She posted something online. Is it a site, you guys? I can't remember. There is, okay, there is sound. She posted something online.

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It was basically like, remember this? Because she went up in a flight that achieved zero gravity, which is all they did. And by the way, she was up there for 30 minutes, not three. Here's some.

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Okay, cool. But, oh yeah, here's the caption of what she wrote. She wrote... Martha Stewart, in case you spaced out, in 2007, Martha has always been ahead of her game. This was tweeted out underneath her Twitter account, which has got many millions in the followers. It's a complete troll because everyone's trolling them now. And I've got to start with this.

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We played it the other day, but I'd love to hear your response because Gayle King is getting very annoyed with the people who don't realize, number one, She's an astronaut. And number two, she is inspirational. Watch.

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Sure. Everyone now thinks that they can go up in Jeff Bezos's nipple shaped spacecraft because Gail did it.

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Would you please stop it? There was nothing frivolous about this flight, this mission, this journey. Okay, Maureen? Nothing.

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You've done it. I'm so special. Wait, we have some of that. Let's watch that.

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Okay. So this is like an Oscars red carpet situation for Maureen and yours truly today. And the reason is we did the shoot and we created our own version of her terrible Netflix show, which she calls With Love, Megan. And I had this extremely talented producer who I've worked with for years come over. And this guy's a miracle man. He did it all himself. We did not rehearse anything.

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Here's part of what you were talking about with Gayle King responding to the haters. It's short.

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Have you been, so you can't criticize her unless you have been to space for three minutes. It's not like going to Epcot Center.

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Like you can't understand the profundity of what I went through. But meanwhile, it's like no one really would have been mocking you if you hadn't been so foolish in your behavior up there, your outfit, you playing up your training of two days, learning how to buckle your seatbelt literally and get in and out of the craft. And then your self-talk when you got back.

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saying things like, I'm so proud of me and I'm an inspiration. I've inspired people, damn it, men and women. That's the stuff that leads us to mock them. And she's on the air like, these are my friends. My friends are making fun of me. Well, what does that tell you, Gayle?

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Something other than a vanity project. Yeah. So she, speaking of that morning show, one of the reasons it's failing is because they have exchanges like this. They had on the actual first black female astronaut, Dr. Mae Jemison. It didn't go well. Watch.

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That's why Oprah was so proud of her because she conquered her fear of flying. Cause this is the same thing as flying, I guess. Fear of flying is when you're on the plane and it's making all sorts of weird motions and quick drops and you're scared shitless that your plane's going to fall out of the sky as does happen. Um,

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In Jeff Bezos, the billionaire's gazillion dollar craft that multiple people have gone up and down in with zero incident. I have to say, even I would not be that afraid. I'd be like, okay. And I have a fear of flying. Really? Yeah. But I would be less afraid in Jeff Bezos.

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Same way as like, you're far less afraid when you're on the 747, you know, Boeing airliner than you are when you're on the tiny flights.

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A little puddle jumpers or, you know, sometimes we'll fly private if whatever, you know, I don't know the circumstances. It's not our norm like Bernie and AOC. Right. Those those flights scare me. They genuinely scare me every time I'm on one. I'm like, I'm never doing this again. Really? Anyway, but on Jeff Bezos's craft, that's really not it's going up and it's coming right back down.

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Maureen and I did not talk beforehand. Everything you're about to see is ad-libbed. And I think you're going to love it as much as I do. You'll be seeing it along with Maureen for the very first time. Installment one of our own with love, Megan. It's important to me to stay relatable. It's Megan, like with a hard A, Megan. I love to elevate a guest's visit. Cheers, dear. I love friends.

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Right, right. Well, we know, I mean, isn't Lauren Sanchez friends with the Kardashians? So that makes sense to me. That makes sense to me.

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Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. That's an interesting question about what the connections are between these women. And then you had like the also rants of like somebody who actually does have some space connection. There was that woman. And then there was somebody else who was like more serious person. But we don't know their names because who cares?

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Lauren Sanchez and Gail and Katie. Who stole all the airtime and then kissed the ground when he came back like they had just gotten off like, you know. A manned flight to Mars.

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Yeah. Okay. Moving on from them for now. I mentioned AOC and Bernie. We've got to spend a minute on them. They're literally on a stop the oligarchy tour. And it turns out the Free Beacon reporting and others now confirming. They're taking a private jet from place to place. It broke first within the, I think it was the post showing AOC was flying first class on one of the legs.

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I guess that was because she was leaving Bernie and the jet, but they have spent, he spent, I guess it now comes up over a couple million dollars from his campaign in 2020 on private jets. And they spent like $221,000 on private jets going from place to place to bash the rich Maureen.

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You get already rich multimillionaire celebrities like Gayle King saying, I'm inspirational. I am inspired. Well, you know what? They don't feel inspired by you. They're worried about paying their bills.

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Okay. So that's her. And then you've got AOC and Bernie bashing the rich as they clearly are them. And yes, you're right. Like actual people are looking at this and recoiling. But AOC's fake origin story came up recently. I got this from Adam Carolla on whose show I went recently and he played the soundbite and my jaw dropped because listen to her talking about her own bio.

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Okay, AOC grew up in Westchester, as you point out. She attended Boston University where she double majored in international relations and economics and graduated with honors. She then moved back to the Bronx, reading here from Wikipedia, became an activist and worked as a waitress and a bartender.

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So she wants us to believe that after she got her degree in honors, double major at Boston University, she struggled to put food on the table, Leaving open the only question of whether she meant she actually physically struggled to put the food on the table as a waitress. Great point.

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Or whether she actually wants us to believe she couldn't eat, notwithstanding her well-off background, and somehow she dug up the tuition for BU, which I'm going to gather was probably $40,000, $50,000 a year.

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She talks about her time waitressing like she was poor and panhandling and, you know, was almost on skid row. There are a lot of us waitress. A lot of us did blue collar jobs when we were young and in our twenties, like she was. That's what you do. I was a telemarketer for like a year. And by the way, I was amazing at it. I really had a career there.

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Was that where you were like, I could do broadcast? Yes. I know I was, I used a fake name. That's what made it easy. I called myself Rachel and I was really good. I did it for a summer and then I kept it rolling for a while. but I don't talk about it. Like I was in the dregs and almost didn't make it and couldn't eat. I could barely put food on the table. I was poor.

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I was putting myself through school. My mom helped me with my, sadly, my dad's insurance money after he died with college, but I paid for my own law school and I paid for part of my college. And, uh, I don't talk about it like I was like this lowly person who could barely pay her bills. Yes, I was very much in debt and I was doing a blue collar job to pay the bill. Who cares?

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Literally our 15 year old son has been working as a bus boy, which you're allowed to do. And it's, it would be like him who comes from an, obviously a family of privilege going out there and being like, I struggled to put food on the table as a bus boy when I was working as a bus. It's like, okay. Yeah. But who do you think you're kidding? I know it's good. We love that he's working as a busboy.

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You know, I think it's teaching him a lot of important lessons, but he would never talk about it like this. And she should stop talking about it.

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And Bernie should stop railing on the rich as he boards his private Bombardier, whatever jet that talks about how it's got extra wide mid cabin and long leg seating, leather seats, and probably some flight attendant on board it too, waiting on him hand and foot. Please just stop it. Okay. Got to keep going. There's a lot to get to because we spent a lot of time on Megan. It was worth it.

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I really want to talk about, oh, okay. I have to take a quick break. And when we come back, we've got to talk about what happened in the Carmelo Anthony case yesterday, where this is the guy, the 17 year old who's been accused of killing this Austin Metcalf, another 17 year old. He reportedly admitted it. I mean, they called him alleged. He said, it's not alleged. I did it.

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But he's reportedly getting ready to argue self-defense. Okay. That we all, we know all that. Then his family spoke out at a presser yesterday, which you know if you listen to the AM update that we offer every morning on our feed, 15 minutes or less, you'll learn all the news of the day. But it was the most bizarre thing I think I've ever seen with this...

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Very strange family representative who says a lot, I think, unfortunately, about the Anthony family. That's next. There's a lot of talk about government debt, but after four years of inflation, another real crisis is personal debt. Some people are working harder than ever and still drowning in credit card debt and overdue bills. But there's done with debt.

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Can you please zoom in? Welcome, everyone. I am so excited to share this day with you. Just like in a dream. With my good friend who's coming over. I love friendship, and I decided to elevate my day and yours by having Maureen come over so that everyone can really love me and see the real me, M, as I am at home in my actual kitchen.

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I'm Megyn Kelly, host of The Megyn Kelly Show on Sirius XM. It's your home for open, honest, and provocative conversations with the most interesting and important political, legal, and cultural figures today. You can catch The Megyn Kelly Show on Triumph, a Sirius XM channel featuring lots of hosts you may know and probably love, great people like Dr. Laura, I'm back.

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And we had a really good sit down together yesterday and he went over some of the things he's encountered at FDA since taking over 17 days ago. And some of the swamp creatures who came out to try to snare him when he was named. So it's a, it's a great exchange. I think you'll really enjoy it. It's doing very well, but now. We told you we were going to do this, okay?

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Maureen Callahan is back with me, host of the MK media show, the nerve with Maureen Callahan premiering next Tuesday. Go ahead and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. By the way, my team, my crack team telling me that AOC, according to the New York post, at least had at least $15,000 in student debt, which is but a small fraction of what BU costs while she was pushing for loan forgiveness.

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Yeah. Okay. Perfect. That's right on brand. Okay. So this Carmelo Anthony case is extremely disturbing. I outlaid a bit of the facts before we went to break, but what's happening now is this is weirdly breaking down along racial lines because Carmelo is black. The kid he killed was white, Austin Metcalfe.

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Austin Metcalf, 17, perfect GPA, being recruited to play in various schools for college, like a football star, MVP. Carmelo Anthony also said to be a good student and possibly also getting recruited to play in college and I think football. And he shows up at this track meet. And apparently decides to sit in Austin Metcalf's like area. I guess they sit by teams.

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And I don't know if they were playing on rival teams, but Austin and Carmelo did not go to the same school. And so I'm not sure if he was trying to provoke a fight or something, but he decided to go sit in the tent that Austin and his twin brother and their team like supporting friends were under.

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Austin Metcalf reportedly, this is from the police report and witnesses cited therein told him to leave, to get out of Austin's seat. And he, and he turned to him and said something to the effect of, you know, make me, I said like, you know, if, if, if you lay hands on me, see what happens, something like that. And, uh,

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As he was doing it, he was reaching into a bag and Austin Metcalf did put hands on him and tried to make him get out of the seat. And he stabbed him through the heart with a knife that he had in that bag. It's absolute, it's just a depraved act. It's a depraved act. I don't know what's wrong with the family he grew up in or with him.

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His mother was there yesterday and interestingly was saying that this is a close family, that it's a two-parent family, that it's a God-fearing family. claiming he's a good boy. I don't know, I saw pictures of him online with the gun and middle finger and trying to look like a badass kind of tough guy. So I'm not sure what this guy was going through, but there's no mystery who did this.

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It was him. So they hold this presser. And first of all, Maureen, they hire this guy who, he's not their lawyer, as near as I can understand. There's a different guy who's their lawyer. He's a minister, quote unquote, using that term generously.

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who's had a long list of trouble with the law in his own right, including the fact that we read this in AM Update, but he was convicted of causing serious bodily injury to a two-year-old child. It was his girlfriend's son. He was... He called the girlfriend at 11 p.m. This is a spokesperson for the family. Called the girlfriend at 11 p.m., told her to get home now, didn't tell her why.

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When she arrived, her child was unresponsive. He told the girlfriend he'd been watching a movie and her son just fell off the couch. He fell off and onto the carpet. But they brought him to the doctor, to the emergency room. He wound up going to the ICU. The doctor said these are lies, that the son had a subdural hemorrhage between the two halves of his brain at the back of the brain.

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He also had retinal hemorrhages in both eyes. Quote, the severity of his injuries is not consistent with rolling off the couch, the investigative officer reported the doctor saying. Without more adequate history of trauma, complainant's injuries are more consistent with abusive head trauma and child physical abuse. This guy, again, still on the spokesperson.

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The prosecutor read two statements from him. Dominique Alexander is his name. He signed. The first one, he claimed the child had fallen off the couch. The second, he admitted to shaking the child. He was charged with a first-degree felony. And... that resulted in a conviction. Then it went on from there.

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He also faced assault charges against the girlfriend charged with one felony, one misdemeanor after he allegedly shoved and attempted to strangle his girlfriend who accused him of pushing, choking, and head-butting her during several altercations. Like so many women do, she ultimately decided not to testify or participate in the case against him. Uh, and therefore it went away. Thank you.

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No, stop. By the way, I love your look. Sorry, what's that? Your look. You look amazing. Your look.

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My look. My look. She likes my look. Anywho, come on in. OK. I'm doing something really generous for you. Oh. Yeah. I thought it might be nice if I made you a special gift basket. Okay. Because, you know, you stay in somebody else's house. You always feel uncomfortable. You know they don't really want you there.

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Thank you. This is just, you know, it's like, it just infuriates me because you would see the BLM crowd out there exploiting this. And I don't say this in a provocative way, but I mean it. White lives matter too. And Austin Metcalf's life mattered.

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And I just wanted you to know when you're upstairs alone in the other wing by yourself that we are thinking about you and we've given you enough things to help make you stay there as long as you'd like. That's very thoughtful. Guess what I'm making for you. A side of corn. Microwave popcorn. Most people would just phone it in by going Orville Redenbacher or, you know, one of those brands. Right.

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There's zero proof of it. We know that. Listen, what an episode. We usually start hard and land soft. Today we did the reverse, but it was an amazing two hours. Love you, lady. I love you too. Good luck with the nerve. Thank you. Don't forget to check it out. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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Toxins. A ton of toxins. Really? What we are going to do is just plop them in there. Here, take one. You plop it right in there. It's so simple. Only the lazy people don't do this. Put it in a paper bag. Here we go. It's right behind you. Are you sure this is safe? I'm sure it's fine. I do this all the time. Okay, here we go. We're going to pop that baby in there for about 2 minutes.

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And let the good times roll. Yes, I'm a founder now. My company is called as ever products that you can't get anywhere else like jam. Jam. Yeah.

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Okay. The moment of truth. Oh my God. You did it. We're going to put it in one of these special cellophane bags because what is a fancy food staple if it doesn't get put in a fancy bag. We're just gonna dump it in there. Get rid of that.

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Maureen Callahan came on a month or two ago when Meghan Markle's As Ever series dropped, and we deconstructed it, you may recall, and we had an idea. Uh, at that time. And our idea has become a reality. Now, Maureen is a columnist for the daily mail, and she's also here to promote her new show on the MK media network. You can find it wherever you get your podcasts for free.

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and make sure that it looks absolutely perfect. I really like to cut my ribbons in a diagonal because I'm not a barbarian. And I really recommend that you do it too. And by the way, I really hope you're noticing all these beautiful fine finishes I'm doing on your special gift basket. I'm not done. I have some more little baggies and that's because I have more little treats for you.

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So I have to be honest, I pretty much exhausted myself on the corn and the cob and therefore I went store bought but these are amazing and you're going to absolutely love them.

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Well, I mean they were purchased by you that's the important thing but yeah, exactly the thought is everything look how easy I can make this. Then I open the bag.

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You have to be a founder to really understand it fully. But maybe in the next wave of our friendship, I'll try to explain it to you. Hold that tight, please. OK. Now we're going to use a different color ribbon because we want everything to feel special in its place. And how do we cut the ribbon, Maureen? On an angle.

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My husband, D., He gets me. He isn't exactly what I thought he was. I mean, I was told there'd be a big castle. You know, it's fine. I can make do in this place. But it's fine. What's important is love.

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My favorite thing, my favorite part of the whole thing is like the one layer down boiling rage I have for you and everything. And one layer down if that obvious like subservience and fear you have for me.

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It's so exactly. I feel if I do say so myself, we really nailed, especially like her and Daniel, the way she was with guest number one and kind of Mindy Kaling too. Yeah. They're obviously all afraid of her hair trigger. And she's like, she could snap at any moment.

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It's just being produced by us. And it's called The Nerve with Maureen Callahan. The Nerve. It launches on Tuesday of next week. So go subscribe now and we'll run Maureen up to the top of the charts at The Nerve Show on YouTube, Apple, Spotify, and all social platforms. Let's be real. Our modern world can be toxic.

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I can't, I can't believe it's my interpretation of Megan Markle. It's a, that's how I see her in my, in our parody of her and her ridiculous show. And you can't for the listening audience, you definitely need to go watch this one on youtube.com slash Megan Kelly. You must.

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The fighting oligarchy rallies drawing tens of thousands at stops across the country, garnering glowing media coverage, though not all Democrats are impressed. Strategist James Carville telling News Nation the rallies are not helpful to the Democrat Party.

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Democrat Senator from Maryland Chris Van Hollen attempting again to access the El Salvador prison holding Kilmar Abrego-Garcia. The senator persisting in his fight despite newly surfaced evidence linking Mr. Abrego-Garcia to MS-13 and reports of past domestic violence. The vice president of El Salvador on Wednesday denying Senator Van Hollen access to the terrorism confinement center.

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And that'll do it for your AM Update. I'm Megyn Kelly. Join me back here for The Megyn Kelly Show, live on SiriusXM Triumph Channel 111 at noon east, on YouTube.com slash Megyn Kelly, and on all podcast platforms.

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On Thursday, the senator attempting to enter on his own and denied again, this time at a military checkpoint.

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And then, late last night, a surprise post from the senator on X, a photo of Senator Van Hollen sitting with Garcia himself and writing, quote, I said my main goal of this trip was to meet with Kilmar. Tonight, I had that chance. I've called his wife, Jennifer, to pass along his message of love. I look forward to providing a full update upon my return.

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Democrat Senator Chris Van Hollen of Maryland again attempting a wellness check on accused MS-13 gang member Kilmar Abrego-Garcia and miraculously, late last night, posting a casual photo of the two of them together at last. President Trump targeting Fed chair Jerome Powell's decision to leave interest rates where they are.

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El Salvador President Nayib Bukele posting his own message on X, writing, quote, Kilmar Abrego Garcia miraculously risen from the death camps and torture, now sipping margaritas with Senator Van Hollen in the tropical paradise of El Salvador. Now that he's been confirmed healthy, he gets the honor of staying in El Salvador's custody.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Friday, April 18th, 2025, and this is your AM Update.

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Senator Van Hollen and the media clinging to a repeatedly debunked narrative that Mr. Abrego Garcia is simply an innocent Maryland dad. Some press even calling him a, quote, U.S. man. In reality, Mr. Abrego Garcia is a Salvadoran national.

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The Trump administration is fighting a court battle over his status, maintaining that if returned to the U.S., Mr. Abrego Garcia will be promptly deported again, consisting with rulings from not one but two immigration courts finding him removable back in 2019, though not to El Salvador. For the last several weeks, Mr. Abrego Garcia's wife making her husband's case to the cameras.

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On Thursday, Ms. Vasquez, who married Abrego Garcia in an ICE detention center as a bid to prevent his 2019 deportation, confirming the court documents she filed against him in 2020 and 2021 from the documents in Ms. Vasquez's own handwriting, quote, I was watching on my laptop and he yelled to turn it off.

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He got angry, reached over to shut and threw my laptop onto the floor and the baby started to cry because he was putting pressure on him. It goes on, quote, he then punched me, scratched me on my left eye, leaving me bleeding. Later that day, Ms. Vasquez writes, quote, he got angry, started yelling again to the point that he ripped my shorts and shirt off, grabbed me by my arm.

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I have marks on my left arm as well. Ms. Vasquez now saying, quote, things did not escalate and I decided not to follow through with the civil court process.

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The judge in Mr. Abrego Garcia's case against the federal government now, Paula Zinnis, suggesting earlier this week the government could face contempt charges for allegedly failing to comply with her order to facilitate the return of Abrego Garcia. However, the Supreme Court ordered the government only to facilitate his return, not to effectuate it. AG Pambandi describing it this way.

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Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller saying there is no future in which Abrego Garcia is allowed to stay in the United States. For the time being.

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On Thursday, President Trump responding to those comments on Truth Social, quote, the European Central Bank or ECB is expected to cut interest rates for the seventh time. And yet too late. Jerome Powell of the Fed, who was always too late and wrong, yesterday issued a report which was another and typical complete mess.

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Oil prices are down, groceries, even eggs, are down, and the USA is getting rich on tariffs. Too late should have lowered interest rates like the ECB long ago, but he should certainly lower them now. Powell's termination cannot come fast enough. This latest round of tension between President Trump and Jerome Powell Yet another chapter in a long-running and often public friction between them.

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Mr. Powell first appointed to the position by President Trump in 2018, then reappointed by President Biden in 2022. The Fed chair serving four-year terms, part of an effort to safeguard the central bank's independence from political influence. President Trump's view of Mr. Powell often hinging on interest rate policy, praising the Fed chair when rates are cut, slamming him when they're not.

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Mr. Powell making a point of defending the Fed's independence from the executive branch at a press conference in November.

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Family of 17-year-old accused killer Carmelo Anthony in Texas speaks out, blaming Trump, oppression, and the media. And Bernie Sanders and AOC railing against the rich as they travel like the 1%. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update.

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The president is constrained by a longstanding precedent barring the removal of heads of independent agencies without cause. A legal challenge now moving through the courts could change that and is widely expected to land before the U.S. Supreme Court. But for now, President Trump's authority remains limited. We spoke with Steve Eisman, the investor who famously predicted the 08 financial crash.

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He says now is not the time to cut rates, warning that if Trump's trade deals deliver a surge in growth, early rate cuts could backfire.

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Mr. Powell's term expires in May 2026. Coming up, the family of accused teenage killer Carmelo Anthony speaks out, blaming everyone but Carmelo. And Bernie Sanders and AOC railing against the rich as they travel like the 1%. Now more than ever, it's important to shop with brands that share your values. And that's why I want to tell you about Nimi Skincare.

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If you're tired of giving your money to companies that do not respect your values, consider making the switch. Nimi Skincare, where modern skincare meets timeless values. The family of Carmelo Anthony, the 17-year-old Texas student accused of killing 17-year-old Austin Metcalf in a dispute over a seat at a track meet in early April, is speaking out.

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Dallas activist Dominique Alexander took to the mics first, and he noted that Jeff Metcalf, father of the dead teenager, was present.

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As President Trump begins his new administration, one of the top Democrats in Congress aiming to undermine the Trump agenda is Senator Dick Durbin. And according to our sponsor, the Electronic Payments Coalition, Senator Durbin has a new scheme, a government takeover of your credit card.

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Mr. Alexander, whose own rap sheet includes a felony conviction for injury to a child, a two-year-old he was babysitting wound up in the ICU with severe brain injuries and And what the doctor said was clearly child abuse.

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Now he's a representative of the Anthony family after Carmelo Anthony allegedly refused to move from a spot at a Texas track meet after Austin Metcalf told him he was in the wrong team's tent. Police say Anthony threatened Metcalf, quote, touch me and see what happens. That Metcalf then grabbed Anthony to move him. and Anthony stabbed Metcalf in the heart.

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Anthony, who was granted bail and is on house arrest, is claiming self-defense, a tough argument given that in Texas, self-defense is not available to one who provokes the attack or who uses lethal force against a non-lethal threat. At the presser, Mr. Alexander blamed many things, but not his client.

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Anthony's mother also speaking out, lamenting the online vitriol she says her family has faced.

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Today, Americans have thousands of choices in credit cards, but they say Senator Durbin's plan will result in less competition and less security. And that means more risk to your credit and your identity. Learn more at guardyourcard.org and consider telling your senators to stop Dick Durbin's government takeover of your credit card before it's too late.

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While Mrs. Anthony and her representative complained about how they've been treated since her son's arrest, citing, quote, the Black struggle, more than half a million dollars has been raised to support Anthony with his defense so far. And he's reportedly been staying in a supporter's $900,000 gated community home.

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Campaign finance records showing Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders shelling out big dough on private air travel, crisscrossing the country on his fighting oligarchy tour, where he blasts billionaires like Elon Musk and President Trump because he doesn't like rich people.

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The self-described democratic socialist, often flanked by New York Congresswoman and protege Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, spending $221,000 on private jet charters in just the first quarter of 2025. Fox News Digital reporting the pair spotted on Tuesday afternoon in Bakersfield, California, boarding a luxury Bombardier Challenger jet, an aircraft reportedly running as much as $15,000 per hour.

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Wonder what that does to the environment, too. The company operating the jet touting, quote, one of the widest cabins of any business jet available today, offering, quote, superior cabin comfort for its passengers. The Washington Free Beacon reporting payments to three private jet companies account for 75% of the campaign's total transportation costs.

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The central theme of the fighting oligarchy rallies, the economy only works for the rich, not for working Americans.

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Senator Sanders' fiery rants about wealth inequality propelling him from socialist outlier to a national figurehead during the 2016 election. In the years since, his personal fortune soaring, officially reaching millionaire status. He has three homes. thanks in large part to what he says were his best-selling book deals about the very income inequality he decries.

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As the senator's campaign coffers swelled, So did his appetite for private travel, spending nearly $2 million on private jet travel in the 2020 election cycle. AOC previously slamming private jets as symbols of corporate greed. She also doesn't want you to drive an SUV. Save the environment. This from a July 2023 rally supporting the writer's strike.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, and happy Friday. Here with me in the studio for the full show, one of our favorites, Maureen Callahan. She's a columnist for The Daily Mail, and I'm going to get with her in our conversation in one second.

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Don't get Feinsteined out of office where we can see with the eye and the wheelchair and have some dignity. Have some dignity.

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got him to endorse her remember his announcement i'm leaving came and then within five minutes came the oh and i endorsed kamala which i think most democrats would tell you is what did it that they couldn't have an open primary after joe biden's like i endorsed kamala that would have been a little awkward so why how did she get him to do it how did she get joe biden who clearly did not believe in her to issue that i don't know maybe she hung over his head like

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I just feel like you're right. We need to know how is it that Jill Biden somehow didn't see what all these senators saw? Why? Who else demanded that two neurologists evaluate her and release their report? Right. And when did they know? Because it wasn't just that debate. They've totally gotten away with it. Trump won. but there's been no accountability in there and there won't be.

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And the same media, you know, who failed to notice that a neurologist came to the white house eight to 10 times over the previous year, didn't break this story. They didn't even break the fact that Chuck Schumer met with Biden. Ruthless broke that. Now here we are as he's about to leave office, right? It's too late to, to 25th amendment him out of office. He's about to leave.

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Because the news media will have to take some of these speeches. And then we'll take you behind the scenes all weekend on our social accounts, you know, Twitter and Facebook and Insta and TikTok, all of them, if TikTok's around, which it's going to be. I'm not, I don't actually think it's going away, even though the Supreme Court ruled against TikTok, like in favor of the ban.

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Now, finally, we get the We all knew that he can't put two sentences together. We were demanding neurology reports behind the scenes.

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Yes. Well, that's what, I don't know if you saw this, but Scott Jennings was on CNN yesterday asking, I wasn't Scott Jennings saying, how did he get rich? So who was it? It was somebody on CNN saying it was Kevin O'Leary. Yeah. From, from Shark Tank saying, how, how does, where did all of his money come from? The guys here, we have it actually. Let's watch it.

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Yeah, and it's not going to turn out the way Abby Phillip wants it to. So how did he get rich? Does anybody know how he has the Porsche... And the Rehoboth Beach Beach House and Hunter Biden has all these millions from never really having any sort of successful career. No one seems to much care on the Dem side.

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Well, did you see it? So Biden, one of the comments he made in his farewell address was about stopping trading from U.S. congressmen. And many have speculated that was a shot at her, you know, because obviously she was the one who really took him down with her public pronouncements of let's just wait, give him time to decide. After he'd said 10 ways from Sunday, I'm staying. Right.

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In any event, it's going to be a historic event, historic long weekend, and I am super excited to bring it all to you. All right, now let's get to Maureen. Increased tariffs on our trade partners, tax cuts, regulation changes. There's a reason why gold is a diversification tactic in a market that remains uncertain.

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So I actually agree with that principle. I don't understand how these people can have inside information about what's going to happen on the law and to certain companies and they're allowed to trade on it. That is called insider trading if you were I'd do it. Here was Biden last night. It's the long goodbye to your point. And he sat after his farewell address. There was another address.

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This was like the dessert with Lawrence O'Donnell. I can't wait to see what the ratings were for this. And OK, here's here's why Biden thinks he's leaving with a record low rating.

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approval rating right that wasn't how it was teed up but he does fyi i have a record low approval rating and here's how he's looking back at his as his term in office and the regrets that he he's feeling this is not too did it cross your mind to put your name on the checks i kept being here from other people president sent me a check for 7500 dollars the president did it why aren't you helping me what was the bill we did but anyway

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That was his problem. He wasn't self-promotional enough. Well, he did only have four hours a day that he was working.

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It would be such a great look. Just fade away. Right. Like we've asked you to. It's funny. We have a friend who does it all wrong where he's like I'm doing the Irish goodbye. That's not it. If you say it. It's not it. That's not it at all. Here's more. You remember one of his other big things the other night when he gave his farewell address was we have this tech oligarchy in this country now.

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It's a very dangerous thing for all sorts of reasons, mostly because they're supporting Trump now. But Lawrence O'Donnell asks him about oligarchy and he does not appear to have any idea why. what it was he was talking about. Watch.

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I mean, it's like he found like his favorite little bit, like everyone deserves a shot. Oh, yeah. I'm familiar with this. This is in there. Right. Got the chip for this one. Right. By the way, Kamala Harris just did the same thing. I'll play it in a minute, but let's stick with Biden for now. Because listen to this one.

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Speaking of him just being out there, like gone, the question was about what Beau, his son who is deceased, would say to him. And would you listen to this?

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That's how it sounded. I think he meant what I used to kid. I used to kid or he used to kid me. I very unclear.

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I blame her. You do? Yeah. I would never let this happen to my husband. Oh, for this, for this like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. But neither one of them can let go. Yeah, but at least he's got the excuse of being infirm. Like she's still a young woman-ish. She's not young, but like she's 74, I think. She's 74, but I also- She's together. She can see what's happening.

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Yeah. They kept all the bad polling from him. It's like even in the wake of that debate, that was a dereliction. But the Democrats paid a very high price for that dereliction. Can we play that Kamala Harris soundbite, you guys, where she goes back to her standard words that we heard throughout the campaign? She's speaking out now, promising she's not going to go quietly. So that's good.

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And of course, she, too, only has like she's uncomfortable until she finds the chip in her brain with the pre-rehearsed lines that her handlers have approved. Here it is.

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I just should have focused more on politics, not my great policies. And everyone's thanking me everywhere because of hopes and dreams. Right. That's it. God, did we dodge a bullet with her.

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Nothing left over. It's amazing. So you saw she went out, Meghan Markle, to the wildfires. I did. Did you approve or disapprove?

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Nobody's looking. Do you think she went out there knowing that it had been pulled and just sort of reminding the world, here I am, benevolent caregiver.

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And shut your mouth. There's no reason for her to go there personally. She understands 100%. She'll be the center of all the cameras. The story will be about her, which is exactly what she wanted. And now she and Harry are angry at Justine Bateman, according to page six, that she called them disaster tourists. Their feelings are hurt because they really do just want to help Maureen.

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Oh, well, you were pointing out a column the other day. It's not just these two losers. A bunch of celebrities are out there. Like, Oh, you know, help my family. These multi-millionaire stars. Like, could you participate in my GoFundMe for my relatives? It's like, who was it?

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Yeah, Mandy Moore of This Is Us fame. Meanwhile, her partner, who I love... Jack. Milo. Milo Ventimiglia. He didn't do that shit. No. He was on the site and somebody found him surveying his home in ashes. He didn't make it all about like, woe is me. You know, he just answered the questions. He was dignified and he certainly didn't ask people to give him money for himself or his family.

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I can't believe it. I mean, the ABC News is citing based on a source, a report that it's moving indoors, which I don't know if it's true, but if it's true and please God, let it be true. Praise Jesus, Maureen, because it's going to be 10 degrees on Monday.

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That says a lot. No, and you also don't see Gwyneth Paltrow flying in and inserting herself into the story under the auspices of, they really need me to ladle out the soup. They really need me to hand out sweatshirts. Like any celebrity or somebody who's as well known as Meghan and Harry are, who does that is doing it for a reason. They know exactly what's going to happen.

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It's totally different from like a Gary Sinise who will hold a concert and have people come and pay an admission charge with a deal that I'm going to take all these proceeds and give them like to our vets, right? That's where like you're using your celebrity for good. It's on the table that it's your celebrity that you're, you know, it's, you're going to do this thing. Yeah. Yeah.

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They're just, they're trying to look like random good Samaritans. And I was talking about this. I went on Billy Bush's show. He just launched it this week.

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And, um, I was saying to me, it's like when you go on to donate to somebody's GoFundMe, um, I know I always click the anonymous thing because I know I'm me and I know, like, I don't want people writing stories about like, Oh, she, she gave this or whatever. It that's the, that's, And it's not just besides the point, it undermines the point of doing it.

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Like true charity is something you do just for the other person, just to help them. It shouldn't reflect back on you at all. You should be fading down into nothing. The point is not to get a thank you. If you do it because you also feel good, that's great. But you don't do it to promote yourself, which is totally what they were doing.

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This is one of the reasons why, even though Vivek gets under my skin sometimes with his weird little posts about how we need more Urkels, that wasn't on my skin. I just teased him because, but I will tell you, I do know a story personally, a person I had on this show who got canceled over complete BS. This is before Vivek was on the scene as a politician or anything.

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He was just private businessman and he heard the story and contacted me and said, I want to pay all of our legal bills. Amazing. I know. And I've never heard him tell this story. He wasn't looking for credit for it, right? I mean, that just speaks to a true, like a good character of a person. These two, it's a totally different story. So shame on them. Shame on Mandy Moore. It's a disgrace.

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Right. And they're telling you to get there no later than 8am for a noon inauguration. And then that goes for an hour. And then there's the parade afterward. Like I am such a wuss on the cold. I've got that Ray nods, you know, where you don't get the circulation on the ends of your fingers. Yes. I can't last 10 minutes, nevermind six hours out there. So I really hope it's true.

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Just go away. Meanwhile, while we're on LA, they're in a full meltdown there in terms of their politics. The fire chief... almost got fired. Then she had some long heated closed door meeting with the mayor where they had it out by the next day, Saturday, they came out as a sort of United front.

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Like we're going to resolve our differences in private, but she continues to rip on the fact that the fire department didn't get the resources it needed the fire chief. And now what you're seeing is reports that there's been a rebellion against her and that there's a push growing for her, the LA fire chief to step down because she hasn't

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been taking care of the firefighters in her ranks or listening to their many complaints. So she raised at least one publicly saying, don't defund us the $17 million. Like we need more resources, but you're hearing more and more firefighters from within and including the head of the firefighters union come out and say, we've been sounding the alarm. No one's been listening to us.

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And actually some are saying this fire chief needs to go among other things. She's been too focused. on DEI and getting more women. The New York Times has a report on this out right now. She's super focused on getting more women in the fire force because some women in previous years complained that they'd been harassed, et cetera, by some of the guys.

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So the answer, I guess, is to just make women the dominant population in LAFD.

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But first, I want to bring you guys all a special announcement. As you may know, we're going to be doing our show from Washington, D.C. on Monday, and that's because I am going to be going to the inauguration of President Donald J. Jay Trump as the 47th president of the United States. Bring in the whole fam. We cannot wait. And then we'll be bringing you a show on all platforms right after.

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And you don't seem to have much urgency. I mean, as it goes on and burns, like the problems with staffing and getting the adequate trucks and water there remain. Schellenberger, who's been doing a great, great job on this, tweeted this out today or last night. He's tweeting out an article saying, that reads DEI and corruption behind LA fire catastrophe says new whistleblower.

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And this is his headline. DEI did not hurt the LA fire department's response to the catastrophic fire, say the media, but anything that Trump's meritocratic standards would. And now whistleblowers within the LA FD say the department lowered standards on ladders, hoses, and pushups to meet DEI quotas for women. And

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You gotta get like a Jackie O fur muff. Yes. I gotta tell you, I'm in favor of the fur. I know PETA's gonna yell at me. PETA sends me a letter every week. I said, I only eat the non-cute animals like chickens. And they sent me a whole letter explaining why chickens are cute. I called somebody a pig and they sent me a whole letter saying it's not, that's impolite to pigs. But pigs are smart, right?

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This is exactly what Hegseth was trying to say at his confirmation hearings earlier this week. No, they're not, Senator Gillibrand, dumb enough to put it down on a piece of paper saying the women have to meet this lower standard and the men have to meet this higher one. It is a matter of practice in too many areas of the military and obviously the LAFD to do it with a wink and a nod.

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Right. It's fine. You can choose whichever color you want to make her, but why does she have to be obese? Exactly. We're trying with the, there's technically a standard. They're all supposed to be meeting on physical fitness. Um, why are we leaning into somehow that's a problem?

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But meanwhile, Pete was making such a good point the other day at the confirmation hearing that we don't hear enough of. And Anna Kasparian was on the show the other day trying to make the opposite point. I disagreed with her, but we didn't get a chance to get into it. And she was great, by the way. But she was saying, look, we have a recruiting shortage.

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And if we have talented women who want to sign up for the military and for combat, the more the merrier because we need more bodies now. And by the way, Pete's never said women shouldn't be in the military. It's about combat. Yeah.

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So I know I take her point, but what Pete was saying at the hearing was that we're seeing already a surge in signups by young men who are ready to rejoin because we've had this lag. And I believe, as I think Pete does, as I think Trump does, that one of the main reasons we're seeing the lag, two of the main reasons are DEI.

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They do not want to volunteer to put their lives on the line only to be lectured to that they're bad because they're white men. That's one. One of those two things, because black men get lectured too because of their manliness. So that's one. And then two is we've been totally reckless with our blood and treasure. We've been starting these wars. They've been never ending.

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We keep sending more over there. We try to impose democracies on countries and regions that will not have it. We double down on dumb. And then when they die, like in the disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal, we say we handled it perfectly. That's what Biden says. No mistakes. It was stellar. Nailed it. Why would you go sign up to fight for a man like that, commander in chief like that?

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Pete's point is that if we do things right, if we treat the military right, if we have the right messaging, if we choose the right battles and we give them the tools to win, like instead of tying their hands behind the back on bullshit rules of engagement, we're going to see that surge in signups again.

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If we teach pro-America lessons in school, as opposed to you should hate your country, we're going to see enlisted numbers go up. The answer is not to lower the standards so we can take the obese ones and the ones who don't pass the IQ test and women who are out of shape or not strong.

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The answer is to find a way to get to those able-bodied, young, male, fighting-age guys who otherwise would have been running to the recruitment offices.

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I think so. The answer, I think, is yes. You do? Yeah. But she wasn't the one who put this fire chief in. It was Garcetti. Right. He was the previous mayor. Wait, I get my G's confused in Los Angeles. It was the previous mayor who came right before her, the guy who just got voted out. And he put her in and she kept her, though. She kept her. Right.

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Because none of these Democrats is going to be the one to say the DEI hire is not on point.

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And Karen Bass's situation, Garcetti. Yeah. Right. She's probably a DEI hire too. A lot of the women, a lot of the voters are already on record saying, I could not vote for the white guy, Rick Caruso, when he's running against a black woman. In no world could I do it.

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Well, this is one of the reasons why I think it's an apt, we have a minute, but discussion, like do we, how many federal dollars do we send to California? If they're not going to change their leadership, if they're going to double down on dumb, like how many times do you go in and rescue people who are suffering natural consequences?

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Unfortunately, you're right, but it is somewhat galling because it's like-

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What are you going to do? Can't let it be in vain. Exactly. You know, but it is funny because like when I was at Fox, you would never wear fur. You wouldn't be allowed to wear fur in a neck thing, in a puff, in a hat. No, because it is so controversial still or was. Now I feel like you've got the two sons of the president are big game hunters for God's sake.

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I hope you're right. I hope you're right. My woke friend who told me the other day she was hearing all sorts of, you know, we're going to vote Republican. We see what we did. It was wrong. She said they're weakening already. They're already being like, well, you can't stop fire. Well, you can. You can. You can. All right, stand by.

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Don't let the IRS's aggressive tactics control your life. Empower yourself with Tax Network USA's support and take charge of your financial future. Visit tnusa.com slash Megan today. This just breaking, Maureen. CNN, bad news, just found liable in a defamation case for $5 million. And now the jury recommending that they move on to the punitive damages phase, which is no bueno for CNN.

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Here's what happened. A U.S. Navy veteran by the name of Zachary Young was put on CNN screen in a report done by a reporter named Alex Marquette. It aired on Jake Tapper's show.

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And in this report, Alex Marquette suggested, CNN suggested that this guy Young was an illegal profiteer working in Afghanistan with those who needed to be evacuated, charging them thousands of dollars to flee the country following the U.S. military withdrawal. And

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This guy, Young, was in touch with the CNN reporter, and before they ran the piece, saying, no, not true, and what are you going to say? Because they reached out to him for comment, as you must. And he said, send me a list of questions, you know, and I'll answer them.

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And they introduced texts in the lawsuit that he brought for defamation against CNN, including one in which Alex Marquette is texting another internal CNN-er how annoyed he is that this guy young has been in touch saying fucking young, just texted. Okay. And then there's a text in which, um, and it starts it with F F S meaning for fuck's sake, fucking young, just Texas. Like he's annoyed that,

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that his source, you know, the subject of his story wants to talk about. Like, normally you're happy. Normally that's great news. If they yell at you, that's fine. Either way, interaction is fine.

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And then there was a text shown of Marquette's text where he told CNN's assistant managing editor, Matthew Phillips, we gonna nail this Zachary Young motherfucker, which is not a great text, not a great text when defending a defamation case. Case.

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So now the jury has just come back finding CNN liable and saying they need to pay Mr. Young $5 million in compensatory damages, adding that he should also be awarded punitives. The trial will be heading into a second phase to determine the amount of punitive damages.

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This is, I mean, look, I hate to see, you know, defamation cases succeed against our fellow media members because you never want to be in that position, right? I mean, I'd be lying if I said you didn't think, well, wow, geez, like nobody's perfect. There but for the grace. But this sounds rather egregious. These texts make it pretty clear.

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This reporter was not necessarily 100% interested in reporting what was real and true.

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When you have texts like that, you just settle. You just settle. You know, like, there will be situations in which the press behaves badly, in which you have bad texts, in which a reporter in the field makes bad decisions. And as a media organization, you settle those cases. That is why ABC settled with Donald Trump, paid him $15 million in his defamation lawsuit.

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Um, because George Stephanopoulos just kept saying he raped somebody that he was found liable for rape when it wasn't true. It's like, sometimes you have to know as the corporation, the big daddy, when to fall on your sword and just say, we effed up and we're going to minimize the damage to our brand. I mean, CNN's in a spiral right now. It's got basement ratings.

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And like their big news this week has been Jim Acosta is moving from 10 a.m. to midnight. What? Right. And I guess they sold it to him by saying it's primetime on the West Coast.

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Sure. For this. Yeah, I know. And Jim Acosta on his like most recent show has been I think he was thanking President Biden for defending the press. Stop it. Meaning him. Stop. It's worse than you think. Watch this.

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Like, it's demented. I hope the woman who made the sign is on the West Coast and she can enjoy the newly minted primetime host.

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Oh, my God. I mean, they're rearranging the deck chairs. The ship is still sinking. Good luck with that.

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She's like... Oh, my... No, I don't know when she's on. I just see her clips. I think she's on in the evening. But I was just talking to her about her... When is she, Steve? She's at 9 p.m.? Oh, my God. God help you, CNN. I was just talking about her yesterday because she's got this weird thing with her affect where she talks like this. And she's like...

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I don't think they were disparaging Pete Hegseth's military service and you shouldn't disparage the general service who came before. It's, I don't know what it is, but I asked the audience, like, that's my imitation of her. Who am I imitating? Like, who is it that I'm, cause she's reminding me of somebody.

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And I feel like we came up with some of the audience emailed in it's Megan at megankelly.com. Here's what we came up with.

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It's just... Very flat while she makes her point with the occasional intonation upward.

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Oh. Another submission. Please go find a clip of that so we can see who Abby Phillip is more like. People are more familiar with her name right now than they ever have been, thanks to our mentioning on this show. So you're welcome. Okay. There's a couple other things I'm dying to talk to you about. Two massive lawsuits today.

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One we're going to get to, which you guys know about, and that's the Blake Lively, Justin Baldoni thing. Brian Friedman, the lawyer for Justin, has just dropped a whopper of a $400 million lawsuit against Blake Lively, Ryan Reynolds, and their PR agent, Leslie, I don't remember her last name, Sloan. He said he was going to do it. He said it was going to be a whopper. And boy, oh boy, is it.

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So we'll get to that in one second. But I have to start with one. against a guy, a criminal indictment that probably no one listening to me, other than I know we have some federal circuit court judges. We have some court of appeals judges who I know listen to the show. They're going to know this guy, but it's just such an interesting story that I must bring it to you.

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There's this guy named Tom Goldstein, and he has been behind the website all of us court watchers use for the past two decades called SCOTUSblog, Supreme Court of the United States, SCOTUSblog.com. It kind of started to wind down a bit last year. We didn't know why, but he's the guy behind it. And I believe that he is... Oh, God. This is from National Review's Dan McLaughlin, who writes...

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His bio recites that only three lawyers in the court's modern history have argued more cases in private practice. He has been counsel on more successful petitions for certiorari, meaning please take our case, U.S. Supreme Court, over the past decade than any other lawyer in private practice.

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And just go with it. Well, listen to this. It's true. Trump just tweeted it out. Trump says it was his call to move it indoors. This is from Truth Social. I didn't see the beginning of the post. We must be talking about how cold it is. Therefore, I have ordered the inauguration address in addition to prayers and other speeches to be delivered immediately.

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Over the past 15 years, the firm's petitions for cert have been granted at a higher rate than any private law firm or legal clinic. He has taught Supreme Court litigation at Harvard Law School since 2004 after teaching the same at Stanford. He's one of the co-founders of SCOTUSblog, the must-read site covering the high court. He holds a number of positions of distinction in the bar.

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As a young lawyer, he was at the side of David Boies and Lawrence Tribe for the Democratic team arguing Bush v. Gore. Now he's 54 years old. And I'll tell you what. I've interviewed him too many times to count when I was on Fox News. I was addicted to SCOTUSblog. I covered the high court for three years for Fox. And the day that the Obamacare decision came out,

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you may not remember this, but almost everybody got it wrong and said, because they found that the, um, Congress didn't have the power under the commerce clause to pass Obamacare because that was the first part of the decision. They did not have the power. Everybody was like, it's being struck down. Obamacare is being struck down.

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And these know nothing reporters ran to the cameras to say that without reading the whole opinion. But you know, of course I did read the whole opinion and I knew that there might be more than part one. And there was a part two, which said, but we uphold it under the tax clause. Thank you, chief justice, John Roberts. So I got it right, and I saved the ass of Fox News. Oh, we have this.

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This is not confirmed by us yet. This is according to SCOTUS blog, which also has the opinion. They're reporting that the individual mandate survives as a tax. So it may have been struck down under the Commerce Clause power, but but spared under the taxing power. Everyone's still trying to figure this out. It's very fluid.

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OK, as a result of that, me reading SCOTUS blog and reading the opinion, we were the only one of the only ones to get it right. Tom Goldstein came on my show. Was it later that night? Okay, later that night. I was in primetime, watch.

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owe you my thanks because I was on your blog this morning as this ruling came down and we were getting conflicting reports and you, as expected and as always, had it right. The high court upheld the individual mandate but not on the grounds most of us expected.

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Okay, so why did I take you down that memory lane? That's the guy who just yesterday got indicted in federal court by the Justice Department for allegedly... I want to get the taxes exactly right. I mean, the charge is exactly right. For... not paying his taxes. Let's see. Hold on. I just want to make sure I have it exactly. Let me just see.

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In the United States Capitol Rotunda, as was used by Ronald Reagan in 1985, also because of very cold weather. Can we pull a video or a picture of that, you guys, so we can see what that's going to look like? We will open Capital One Arena on Monday. Okay, look, that's the Reagan. Well, so it's smaller. I don't know how many people fit in the Capitol Rotunda. Steve, can you look that up?

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The allegations are that he committed tax evasion, 19 counts of unpaid taxes, willful failure to pay taxes, false and fraudulent tax returns. There are also three counts of false statements on mortgage loans applications that he took out to cover his debts.

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this is again, sticking with the report on national review, which you guys should read by Dan McLaughlin called the wild indictment of Tom, Tom Goldstein of SCOTUS block. And he says, um, It might seem puzzling that a man in this position would retire from appellate practice in 2023. So last year, he stepped away from SCOTUSblog. He gave up appellate practice. No one quite understood it.

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It might seem even odder when juxtaposed against Goldstein's reputation. He was profiled in 2006 for the New Republic as the hustler for his aggressive pursuit of clients with cases that were headed for the court or suitable for its docket. And so on, talking about what a hotshot he was. If even half of today's 22 count federal indictment of Goldstein is to be believed,

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there was a lot to outrun and it caught up with Goldstein, his alleged dark side. He was also an ultra high stakes poker player, frequently playing in the United States and abroad involving stakes, totaling millions, even tens of millions of dollars. He financed that by quote, borrowing millions of dollars.

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This is quoting from the indictment or getting people to stake him in exchange for a share of his winnings. If he won at times, he won big. The indictment recites a 13.8 million win in Hong Kong in 2016 and and taking a California businessman for $26 million in Beverly Hills that same year, but he also frequently held gambling debts approaching $10 million. We'll get to the women in a minute.

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But Maureen, and he denies these allegations. Okay, I should say he gave a statement. I believe it was to Reason Magazine, and I screen grabbed it so I would remember to read it, but it was... So, if this is true in any way... you have one of the most, I mean, top 1% prominent attorneys in America.

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And at the top, top, most respected place, Supreme Court litigation, the Supreme Court Bar, who all the justices know and probably have cocktails with. on this mad poker spree, where obviously the guy, I mean, appears to have some sort of a gambling addiction, to the tune of $26 million wins and $10 million losses.

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There's an allegation he was caught crossing the border with a black bag that had- The duffel bag. Yes, yes, a million dollars in cash.

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And one of the ways it sounds like he got caught was he declared that to the customs official, but then didn't put it down as earnings on his taxes, committing some massive tax fraud where he wasn't accounting for all these winnings or the losses when he applied for mortgage loans and banks need to see what you're outstanding liabilities for. It blows my mind, Maureen. I don't know why.

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I just feel like someone at that level of practice wouldn't behave that way.

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We're going to look it up so we can tell you because that's that's going to shift events. But it's smart. Honestly, it was going to be dangerous. He goes on. We will open Capital One Arena on Monday for live viewing. Oh, good. Of this historic event and to host the presidential parade. I will join the crowd at Capital One. Oh, that's so nice. After my swearing in.

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And then they had some sort of a computer program run like AI workouts of how the poker game against that person might go. So he could anticipate he would probably respond like this. So then I should respond like that. Right. A lot of time was put into winning these games. Yeah.

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What? Fleeced them. How do we know? Wait, so we're saying fleeced based on what? This has been found by a jury, or? He was convicted. Oh, oh.

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okay, first of all, if you marry one of these real housewives, you know what you're like, then I look at you differently. I gotta be honest. Like I see you differently. Like, but this guy was the picture of respectability. Like this guy, we put him on all the time. Everybody would. It wasn't just Fox or CNN, MSNBC, all of them. Um, and like you saw him like

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So he's going to go over with all the people who are traveling in to see it. And the man loves being with the American people.

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He's a bald, mild-mannered, kind of meek little guy. Like, he's not... I don't know what I'm picturing as your average criminal. And again, he denies the charges. We'll find out whether he's a criminal. But on top of all this massive gambling and applying... That is hubris. That's ballsy to go to the bank to apply for a mortgage and not reveal your $10 million in gambling debt. Um...

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On top of that, they're alleging that he was cheating on his wife, who's a partner in his law firm, with a bunch of women. I think at least four women. Again, back to the National Review report. He was involved, according to the indictment, or pursued intimate personal relationships with at least, oh, at least a dozen women.

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not four, 12 at least, transferring hundreds of thousands of dollars to them in addition to other costs of their travel and expenses. He allegedly hired four of them as sham employees of his firm to get them health insurance. He was otherwise allegedly using the firm as a personal piggy bank to cover his lifestyle. That's Alex Murdoch-esque, that last part where you use the law firm money

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And the Tom Girardi kind of thing, if it's true that he used the law firm's money to pay off gambling debts and screwing all your other partners and potentially clients and putting four of your alleged affair partners on the company ledger so they can have health insurance benefits. I mean, in his defense, I'm sure it was tough for Tom Goldstein to get ladies.

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So the again, Reason.com posted this. It's it's by it's under the Volokh conspiracy, but I saw Reason tweeted it out. And. And this guy, Josh Blackman, did a very good piece. And he went back and looked at all the arguments Tom Goldstein had before the Supreme Court during the relevant timeframe, which I think was from 2015 or 16 to 22. Mm-hmm.

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And this guy was arguing some of the biggest, most complex, most difficult, challenging cases we've had against some of the most formidable adversaries, including Paul Clement, former Solicitor General under George W. Bush. This guy will shred you with his rhetorical skills. Don't argue against Paul Clement.

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Neil Katyal, who's a far left guy, but he used to be at Jones Day and he was used to be Solicitor General. I think I am pretty sure he was under Obama. In any event, these are very skilled advocates. And he was going in there and winning against these people while he's racking up these millions, tens of millions in debt. And then the next weekend winning.

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I just, to your point about the adrenaline, that person's, I don't even, I don't recognize that as human behavior. I would be such a puddle of nerves. I'm too afraid to commit a crime.

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Oh, I deeply, I would give anything to be a fly on the wall of the Supreme Court justices chambers or their next meeting, I guarantee you in there is holy shit. Have you seen the news about Tom Goldstein? It's just to me is such a juxtaposition position of huge respectability, you know, because like, look, Harvey Weinstein fell for being a predator. Roger Ailes went down for similar reasons.

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Jeffrey Epstein, I mean, same times 100. But you didn't really look at any of them and say- Never. Right. No. Right.

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Bill Cosby, maybe. Maybe Bill Cosby. But this guy, the nerdy Supreme Court litigator who probably every respectable lawyer and judge in the country knows, it's just such a double life. That's how it feels to me. And do you have to be a sociopath to get away with it? That's what's most intriguing- Like, how do you go in there stone-faced and argue the cases?

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You know how it is when something's stressing you out? Think about if you were going to get sued. Getting sued is very stressful. And you've got a Supreme Court argument you've got to prepare for? Oh, shit, I couldn't think about anything. I'd be so distracted. And this guy, he's got to know at some point that he's facing possible indictment by the feds.

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He's hiding, allegedly, a massive shell game of money. And he's in there, like, slicing and dicing Paul Clement and, like, you're built differently. There's something missing. There's a chip that I have that you don't have.

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I know. Cause it's truly like being outside for six hours in 10 degree weather, people with their young children and, You know, you're just asking for negative things to happen, bad things to happen. It doesn't matter how many layers you bring. And by the way, there's zero chance the Secret Service would allow space heaters.

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One other interesting nugget on Tom Goldstein, this past November, even though he'd kind of shrunk his public presence, right? Like at the Supreme Court bar, he had retired. He shrunk the SCOTUS blog, which people had said already had basically died pursuant to their announcement they were killing it. But in November-

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OK, November of this year after Trump won, Tom Goldstein comes out with a an op ed in The New York Times saying that all remaining lawfare should be dropped against him. It's clearly the preemptive, I'm on your side, Mr. President. And guess who he hired to represent him? Trump's two lawyers. So we're looking for a pardon? Of course.

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He's definitely trying to line himself up for a pardon, which is just, ugh. If he did it, he shouldn't get one. And if he didn't do it, then let's stay open-minded to that and we'll come on and we'll give you all the reporting that the case fell apart if and when it does. break back with more on the Justin Blake drama. And there is drama.

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OK, so as I mentioned, the inauguration of Donald Trump is happening on Monday. One person who will not be there is Michelle Obama. And we're going to get to some of the speculation around why.

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But first, Melania Trump sat down with Ainsley Earhart of Fox and Friends on Fox and offered a bit of a jab against how she and Donald were treated by the Obamas when they took over at the White House as the Obamas left first time around. Watch.

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Mm hmm. So the Obamas did not fully share everything that would normally be shared with the Trumps. Now we see, of course, it must be noted Trump skipped the Biden inauguration because he was doing his January 6th stuff. But now you have Michelle skipping this inauguration. And there is speculation in the press that, yes, it could be because she hates Donald Trump.

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But she hated Donald Trump in 16, too. And she went with a puss on her face. Right. But or is it because there's trouble in paradise? There are a bunch of reports now. It's her birthday today. And she tweeted something out. And Barack tweeted, I love you. Like on on paper, they're being lovey. But this is what's coming up to surface.

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She gave an interview, for example, on Jennifer Hudson's show within the past year. It was in December. So it was a month ago. And listen to her talk about Barack here. It's hot 16.

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What else? Yeah. So anyway, it wasn't safe. Good call. And I hope I'm still going.

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OK, this on the heels of reports denied by Jennifer Aniston that there may be something going on between Barack and Jennifer Aniston. But Jennifer Aniston came out and said, this is a tabloid report, said, I only met him once. I know Michelle better than I know him. But what's going on here?

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I'll go to the Capitol and read it if I have to. I'm watching this thing. OK, where to begin? Let's talk about the explosive New York Times piece on Joe Biden and the effort to coup him. Okay, you have to fill me in. I did not see this piece. That's fine. So Chuck Schumer is now coming out. Let me start out with this, a little walk down memory lane.

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Almost nothing. Nothing. Cannot be postponed. Even a mammogram. If you're Michelle Obama, it could probably happen the next day.

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He had gay fantasies that he was talking to an ex-girlfriend about.

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I'm just going to say like, I'm not sure, but I, I wouldn't put him down for any second wife. I think if those two split, it's going to be confirmed bachelorhood. Oh, interesting. The duration. Interesting. That's what I predict. Um, I don't know whether there's trouble in paradise or she's just being her normal, miserable self. She always has like Unenthusiastic.

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The only thing she gets enthusiastic about is how much she hates Trump and our country. Those are the things that really seem to animate her. It's so true. Love for Barack doesn't seem to be on the list. It's so true. Okay, so Justin Baldoni. He has fought back yet again.

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He filed a lawsuit against the New York Times, which he had Brian Friedman on to discuss, saying it had done a defamatory report on Blake Lively's claims that she was allegedly harassed by this guy when they shot the movie It Ends With Us, a film about domestic violence. In that claim, they said the Times distorted the truth.

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When this past summer at the RNC in Milwaukee, the gang from Ruthless came on the program, my program, and they said, we're just going to break this news because everyone's talking about it in our political circles, but no one will report it. And this is what happened.

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They did not report text messages, which were full and complete, which showed a very different meaning than the snippets that Blake Lively put in her complaint. And that what in fact happened was Justin didn't harass Blake. Blake was interested in wresting control of this movie away from Justin, who was the director and the producer. She was just an actress in it.

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And use threat and threats and coercion and bullying to do it. And to the point where this guy was in the basement at his own movies premiere. Now, Brian Friedman has filed on behalf of Justin a lawsuit directly against Blake, Ryan Reynolds and Leslie Sloan, their PR hack.

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And they're alleging not only did our PR team not hurt Blake or generate a campaign against Blake or do anything to hurt Blake last August when she came under negative press. That was organic because of her own bad behavior. But you guys were the ones out there generating negative press against Justin. You bullies were the ones who were trying to ruin Justin so you could have your way.

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on all the scenes and all the wardrobe and all the control, and you can feel like the producer and the director when you weren't.

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And it's full of text messages and details about meetings like the one they had with Ryan Reynolds, Blake Lively, Justin Baldoni, and apparently, though the name is blacked out, there's an assumption, well-founded, that it's Taylor Swift, her BFF, at the Reynolds penthouse in Manhattan, where Ryan Reynolds allegedly bullied Justin so badly...

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that a Sony representative who was there, the production team behind the movie, and her biggest takeaway was, I am very sorry that I let him get away with doing that to Justin. It was so nasty. This guy who's just the damn husband.

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And now you see text messages in this lawsuit from Blake Lively comparing herself to the heroine of Game of Thrones, the fiercest female character we've seen in years, Khaleesi. That's her riding her dragon. She's the mother of dragons in Game of Thrones. And that's what Blake Lively says in a text message that she too has her dragons, Ryan Reynolds and Taylor Swift.

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That's again, believed to be the other person and that they are powerful advocates for her. And while it seems to be said like, I'm so lucky that I have them as great storytellers to help me rewrite this script. What Brian Friedman alleges is, You'll go along or I'll unleash my dragons on you. You loser who no one's ever heard of.

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And this is the moment, right? Biden said, I'll resign if somebody shows me that I can't win. So he goes in with polls.

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That's so weird. Like your husband, who's Ryan Reynolds. Of course it was a threat.

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They were until Brian filed that lawsuit against the Times. Everybody was like, we got it wrong on Blake Lively last summer. That was not an organic negative press experience. And they're wrong. There was plenty of organic negative press about Blake Lively last summer that there's been absolutely no proof any of it originated with Justin.

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That's what generated her negative press and led to a series of clips of her being insensitive in one way, shape, or form with other interviewers in the past. She has no one to blame but herself for that. It's like, even if he did orchestrate this campaign and there's been zero proof he did, in fact, there's proof to the contrary, So what? You provided the clips. You did it.

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Nobody made you berate that young woman who said, oh, your little bump is cute when she was eight months pregnant. And then she takes a shot of her like, oh, so is your baby bump to a non-pregnant interviewer. who's basically just trying to acknowledge the obvious in the interview.

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They're softballs. I have to say my favorite actress, the person who I think handles almost all of these things perfectly is Kate Winslet. I just think she does very well in these interviews. Like she seems real to me. She seems honest. She's self-deprecating. I just like, she's not perfect either, but I just feel like more times than not,

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she gets it right as opposed to like trying to puff herself up. Right. You know, it's kind of being self-deprecating usually. The Brits are great at that. Yeah. Anyway, she could take a lesson here that this is just posted to your publication, the Daily Mail a few minutes ago.

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Taylor is proud of the film because her music was featured in it, which gave her a sense of involvement, though she wasn't fully aware of the extent of the project's developments. Her, I guess it's her rep said, quote, she is confused by the claims in the suit as her connection to Blake is purely a friendship with no interest in influencing or controlling Blake's projects, end quote.

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The source insisted, okay, so it's not a named, but the source insisted that Taylor did not purposefully plan to be there during the meeting, but it sounds like an admission she was there. Instead, they said she was simply coming over to hang out with her pal, but arrived while the meeting, which was supposed to have been wrapped up, was still going.

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Okay, so she was at the meeting and, you know, they're saying that she was being presented implicitly by Blake as her other dragon, her threat. But to your point about the alleged like sexual tension between these two, if you look at the full complaint, there are texts between them like that go on and on about their connection and how he really likes her.

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He loves his version of her, but he loves the other version of her too at 11 o'clock at night. And I'm telling you, it's felt flirty to me. I'm like- I don't generally text with other men, even men I work with at 11 o'clock at night, unless there's breaking news. It's my executive producer. And I'm like, I need to get on a plane. Right. It's not like how I love this version of you.

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So, you know, I, there could be a situation where that's what upset Ryan Reynolds so much. Oh, that's, that's a great. Yep. Yep. Because what they, what they're saying is you fat shamed my wife. And that's another thing they allege in the Brian Friedman lawsuit that That's what they put out, that he fat shamed her because he allegedly went to her trainer to ask how much she weighed.

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And they write about how he's got this debilitating disc condition for which he was hospitalized when the movie wrapped. It's not made up. It's real. And he did need to know how much he was going to have to weigh. She lied and said that there was no scene like that. And then they allege here that's because she had it cut. Amazing.

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There's just so much more to this story and the media's already like self-flagellating. Oh, we were too mean to Blake. She didn't deserve the few negative things that were said about her. She's been bullied and harassed.

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Maureen, you're the best. You're the best. Such a pleasure. Isn't she great, you guys? All right. We're back on Monday from a very cold but indoor President Trump inauguration. What a day for America. We'll have it covered for you. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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So there was a meeting, and now it's all over. The Times admitting Schumer did go to see Biden in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, when he was still hanging on, wouldn't yet step down. And the headline in the New York Times is, I'm urging you not to run, how Schumer pushed Biden to drop out. It says, this is based on an interview with half a dozen people who participated in that private push.

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It's from an upcoming book called Madhouse Rehoboth. Senator Chuck Schumer of New York sat in the foyer of President Biden's Rehoboth Beach House tired and tense.

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He had not slept the night before and on the four-hour drive from Brooklyn to Delaware, he had rehearsed out loud what he planned to say, reviewing note cards as he prepared for what he thought might be the most high-stakes speech he would ever give to an audience of one.

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The roughly 45-minute conversation, which took place in a screened-in porch overlooking a pond, was more pointed and emotional than previously known. He said to him, if you run and lose to Trump and we lose the Senate and we don't get back the House, that 50 years of amazing, beautiful work goes out the window. P.S., that's what happened.

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But worse, you go down in American history as one of the darkest figures. He would end with a directive. If I were you, I would not run. And I'm urging you not to run. He says, Mr. President, you're not getting the information as to what the chances are. When he asked whether Mr. Biden has talked to his pollsters about his chances of winning, the president shook his head.

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But before the inauguration, which, as you know, is on Monday, on Sunday, I'll be joining President-elect Trump, Vice President-elect J.D. Vance, Elon Musk and more, speaking at the president's final rally. It's his pre inauguration rally. He loves the rallies, right? He doesn't have to have a rally. He won, right? But he loves interacting with his voters and his fans and the American people.

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Schumer says, well, I have talked to them. My guess is you have about a 5% chance. None of your pollsters disagree with me. Only twice did Mr. Biden interrupt to ask a question, and both times it was... Do you really think Kamala can win? Mr. Schumer said he didn't know, but that she had a far better chance.

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The two embraces Mr. Schumer headed back to the car where he broke down in tears as he recounted the meeting to his aides. He didn't know what Mr. Biden would end up doing, he told them, but he felt he had gotten through to him. How about that? By the way, they also report that Obama went to Schumer and said, you have to do it. He's not gonna listen to me.

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He doesn't because of our fragile relationship, admitting they don't like each other.

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Same. Well, they also report that Chuck Schumer demanded the meeting, yes, because Obama asked him to do it and said, I can't be the one. He's not going to listen to me.

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Um, because his members in the Senate, he, he said, quote, I cannot hold them back anymore. Remember when Biden sent that letter, I think it was January 8th. They dated it as saying it's, it's done. Stop. It was a bad night, July, July 8th. It was like, it's done. Move, move on. I'm fine. I'm staying in it. Like put on your big girl pants. We're going forward.

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And he kind of declared the debate over. Mm-hmm. Well, this is saying that behind the scenes, it wasn't over. And the top senators were in a tailspin, understanding that he couldn't do it. And they were about to write a letter saying that he needed to step down. and that Schumer was saying to Biden, like, you don't want that. They're going to come out en masse against you, Democrat senators.

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And they also reported that Senator Jack Reed of Rhode Island in the news this week for being the top Dem cross-examining Pete Hegseth on the Senate Armed Services Committee. Remember, he was the one who was like- I voted for all the nominees of every president since I've been on this committee, you know, 20 years ago, and I don't think that you can do it, Mr. Erickson.

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So anyway, Jack Reed, who is a West Point grad, former paratrooper, apparently said he could no longer support his commander in chief unless Mr. Biden could produce two neurologists to issue a public report saying he was fit to serve and then hold a news conference where anyone could ask questions. Where were these effing reports at the time? Nevermind before the June debate.

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So they asked me to appear. It's my honor to do it. And I'd love to hear from you on what you'd like to hear me talk about. They give you like around eight minutes. It's not a ton of time. And I'd love to hear what you would be interested in, right? Because it is an opportunity to take the message to some people who don't always hear us talk, right?

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There's not good stuff. But he's still out there trying to make his closing argument about how great he was and what a threat Donald Trump is. I mean, what I do think is interesting, too, about this is it does confirm Biden's got some political instincts asking twice, do you really think Kamala can win? He knew he couldn't admit to himself that he was going to lose given his infirmity.

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But at some level, he still knew she's not the answer. And, you know, reportedly Obama knew that, too. It's like, where's the in-depth piece on like who ultimately said it must be her? Like she's it's got to be Kamala Kamala. Because of the black women in our party, whatever, like how did they allow themselves to get into that position?

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And more. The general list at the front of the complaint says arson, bribery, and obstruction of justice, too. So, among others. Now, the kidnapping and... Stand by. I'm just looking at my list here. Kidnapping, arson. That's probably going to be the kid-cutty stuff. We'll see. Okay. That's she she testified to this like they got this from Cassie when she took the stand.

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That videotape she testified was her running out of a freak off. She'd had enough. She was escaping and that he ran after her, dragged her back and forced her to continue. Now that's kidnapping. Right there. And it's assault. And just because the state prosecutor in California did not bring charges against Diddy, which he should have. But again, that tape was kept secret for some 10 years.

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And the more I look at it, the more I think the case is getting stronger by the day against Diddy for sex trafficking, racketeering, and transportation to engage in prostitution. Those are the claims against him. I do not predict he's definitely going to get convicted, but I'm more and more believing it's likely. And that's because

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So the statute of limitations may have expired. So it's not being charged as an individual act. But that her showing us that and saying I was escaping a freak off and dragged back in there to continue is kidnapping. And on top of it, it meets the other elements as well. It's a person in a room with a sex prostitute, which she testified to, someone being paid to be there to engage in sex acts.

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And she's testifying she was there under coercion. That's sex trafficking. And there was testimony that he did this with her across state lines and outside of the country too, like down in Turks and Caicos or one of those tropical islands not owned by the United States. So that is the second count, sex trafficking by force, fraud, or coercion.

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saying that from at least 2009 up until 2018, he, in and affecting interstate and foreign commerce, knowingly recruited, enticed, harbored, transported, provided, obtained, advertised, maintained, patronized, and solicited by any means a person knowing and in reckless disregard of the fact that means of force, threats of force, fraud, and coercion

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would be used, what they're trying to say to force that person to engage in a commercial sex act. What they're saying is in interstate commerce, he transported, would be enough, a person through means of force, fraud, or coercion into a commercial sex act. Okay, well, where was the force, fraud, or coercion? The prostitutes are going to testify that they did it willingly.

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Now, the first guy said I was there willingly, they were paying me, but he also took a picture of my license and seemed to be threatening me that if I spoke or didn't behave as he wanted me to, he was going to hurt me. There would be retribution. So that's evidence of some force or coercion. But it's really coming down right now to Cassie. who is showing us the tape. I tried to escape.

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on megan kelly welcome to the megan kelly show and a special friday more casual edition of what's happening in the pd trial uh we're actually supposed to be off today but i've been following this case pretty closely and there's been a lot i've wanted to say and we've been trying to sandwich it into other shows and finally i just wanted to take a chunk of time to just cover what we've seen this week because there's been a lot of developments and i got a lot of thoughts on this so um

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He grabbed me by the hair and dragged me down the hallway back into one of the freak-offs. That would be coercion to go back into this room and engage in a commercial sex act. She's not the one getting paid. The lover is. And she testified to that. So you don't. And then you also have to prove that he knew Sean knew that the victim was engaging in this act as a result of forced fraud or coercion.

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Well, the defense is offering emails of her saying, I want to do the freak offs. I'm into it. Can't wait to freak off. It's all from 2009. So far, 2010, there was some testimony, some email correspondence. They're not sharing all the email language with us before that 2016 one that resulted in the beating that we saw in the hallway.

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But even if they have an email suggesting she wanted to do that one and she's disputing that, um, Seems pretty clear on the tape she was done with the freak-off. Seems pretty clear the consent had been withdrawn. And by the way, as a legal matter, a woman can withdraw her consent to a sex act literally in the middle of sex. The first two minutes can be consensual.

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And if she says, I'm done, get off of me, the next minute would be rape if he doesn't listen. That's the law. So you can certainly participate voluntarily in one of these freak-offs, which she said some of them last four days. And maybe on day one, you're good. But by the time you're on day four, you're saying, I want to get out of here. Let me go.

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Watching, for example, the cross-examination of the star witness has been, I think, kind of underwhelming. I thought that they'd have more and I thought that they'd be a little bit more skilled. But instead, they seem to be all over the board, the defense counsel, on trying to just score points with her. And they are clearly, I get it, trying to prove that she consented to some of this behavior.

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And if he chases you down the hallway and grabs you and pulls you back into the room where the commercial sex worker is there on the clock for money, you're effed. You're effed. You are going to be charged likely with sex trafficking by force, fraud or coercion. That's count two of this indictment. Now, maybe the jury will be persuaded.

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Maybe the defense has one of these emails or texts for every single freak off. She said there were hundreds, so I doubt it. She's doing more of a narrative explanation of what happened, saying in the beginning of our relationship, by the way, there was a 17-year age difference. She was 19 when it started. He threw a 21st birthday party and invited Paris Hilton and Britney Spears.

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She was an ingenue. She was as green and doe-eyed as they came. And this older, much more successful, more sophisticated, bully, criminal thug

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took advantage of this young girl, so beautiful, everything in front of her, and lured her into his world through promises of making her in the music industry, remaking her, making her over, teaching her how to dress and how to be in a way that would be enticing for others. Of course, that would be extremely alluring for any young woman. But there was a price to be paid.

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And in the beginning, he wooed her. My God, this is a pattern. I mean, you guys have seen it. You've heard it just on this case, this show enough to know. It is a pattern of abusers to love bomb the women at the beginning.

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If those are the roles, the gender roles, men versus women, it can happen the other way, but it's this kind of abuse, domestic abuse with a love bombing is generally men on women. And then once he obtains control over her, comes the abuse. It can be verbal, it can be financial, and it can be physical. And she testified that he beat her many times.

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And the second witness of the case was a sex worker, not the one who was in that room for the 2016 Intercontinental Hotel incident, freak off slash beating, but a different one. a different sex worker, the one who said, I had to show my license. And he said he heard Diddy slapping her behind closed doors, that they had an argument.

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I think that he threw a bottle at her and then they went behind closed doors and he heard him slapping her and he heard her saying, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. And then he expressed his concern directly to her. It sounds like this guy was kind of falling in love with Cassie and he worried about her. He says, this is the hired sex worker.

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But he was hired so often, he felt like he was getting to know them, and she and he would kind of side text from time to time, and he felt that she was in danger in Diddy's world. This is a third party. Again, yes, he was involved, not like the security guard.

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He was involved in their relationship and their freak-offs, but he's setting the stage, and the prosecution with those first two witnesses is setting the stage that this was not a purely voluntary thing. that Cassie did feel coerced and feel like she had no other choice and understood very well that there would be a high price to pay if she did not do what he wanted.

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And it really doesn't matter, again, if that coercion began mid-freak off, pre-freak off, or if in the beginning of their relationship when she was very young, 2008, 7, 9, when they're showing her her loving texts toward Diddy, that she was genuinely in love with him and possibly wanted to do these things.

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Okay. Okay. Okay. you need to prove that she consented to all of it. That's the truth. I mean, more accurately stated, the prosecution needs to prove that there were at least some of these sexual encounters, so-called freak-offs, that were not consensual on her part. And I think they're doing it, I have to tell you. So let's just take a step back, okay?

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And she was explaining that she did love him, that she felt there was actual tender love between the two of them. And she felt he loved her too, though he was dating other women. He was hiding her. He wouldn't bring her out in public. She didn't like that. He was spending all the holidays with Kim Porter, the mother of some of his other children. There are many, many baby mamas in his world.

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And, um, He wasn't treating her in any way like an equal or a partner. But this poor lost girl who now had been hooked by this guy had been repeatedly. I mean, it's a form of sexual abuse what he was doing to her, whether she knew it or not. It is not love.

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to take a 17 years younger, 19, 20, 21 year old girl and have some sex worker come into your private home or hotel room and urinate down her mouth to the point she's gagging. You fucking cretin, Sean Combs. That's what the evidence was. That's one of the many reasons I think he's a disgusting, perverted criminal. It's my opinion. And she was fooled into believing it was because she was young.

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I don't know what her background was, but I guarantee you it wasn't great. And she testified that even now, even up until the recent past couple of years, she's had suicidal ideations. She's married now to what appears to be a nice man, by all accounts. They've got a child and she's, I think they've got two children and she's about to give birth to number three.

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That's why they had to rush her onto the stand because the prosecution understands she is the star witness. And, you know, she's got two weeks to go. This baby could come at any time. And everybody understood once the baby's here, all bets are off. She might not testify. So they were right to put her on the stand.

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But even now with her life ironed out and a good man by all accounts in her life, she's still having suicidal ideations or at least was up until recently. She was very tearful on the stand. She's very soft spoken. This is not some strong, fierce, badass woman. Even in the text messages, you can tell she's very sweet.

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Even the defense counsel seemed to be conceding that in the cross-examination of her. And their answer to it is to have Diddy sitting there in a sweater. For our listening audience, I have a gray sweatshirt on today. But like in a sort of a wool sweater like this with this little polo collar and a Bible. His hair is gray now and he's wearing reading glasses. Oh, he's basically grandpa.

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No, actually, he's not grandpa. He only called himself Pop-Pop in his texts with her because he found out that was her endearing term for her grandpa, like it was for me and mine. What a sick effer. He found out she called her grandfather Pop-Pop, and then he insisted she call him that. The guy who was forcing her to do it with unknown sex workers, etc.,

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So he called her BG, baby girl, and she called him pop-pop per his request. I'm just so, it's so foul. So the defense yesterday got their hands on her Thursday for the first time, and they were all over the map. They were scoring some points in terms of she loved him. She was definitely requesting at least a couple of these freak-offs, and it's in writing that

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Now she was saying, those are just words by that point. She was denying that she actually wanted them. It's hard because if you look at the overall narrative of her first two days on the stand, she was talking about the coercion and the control he had over her and how she didn't want to be doing it. And she knew she'd pay a price if she didn't.

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And she was afraid of him and he would physically threaten her. So it's okay. You can pull out like in the course of hundreds of these things, one or two where she's trying to please him. And she also testified that some of the time she knew she had to. And so she'd volunteer to do it like three days in advance.

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That's the 2016 one, she said, of an award ceremony she was supposed to appear at because she knew she'd have to take drugs to get through it and that sometimes she would be physically hurt. And she wanted to look nice at her movie premiere or at the premiere of an album, an award show. So she would try to convince him to get it done like three days before so she could recover from these things.

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Because what's interesting about this case and the reason we're all paying such close attention is because this is one of the most famous men in the world. Sean Combs, Puff Daddy, P. Diddy, whatever, right? is one of the biggest celebrities in America, in the world. And his star was on the rise. He formed Bad Boy Records.

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I mean, this is sick. This is a depraved individual. And just keep in mind, she's not the only one. We're going to have more women come forward, we believe, and take the stand and say he did this with them too. And as far as the racketeering goes, there's been testimony that his staff... was facilitating it. They would set up the rooms. They would deconstruct the rooms. They would clean the rooms.

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They would bring in fresh linens from all the blood and human fluids and baby oil that were all over the beds of these hotels. It's absolutely disgusting. Yes, he was obsessed with baby oil. I know we're all kind of joking about baby oil now. It's just sick. Like he wanted to heat it up. He wanted her putting it on sex workers, the sex workers putting it on her.

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He wanted her to watch him with female sex workers too, made her do that. And the defense is trying to say it's all consensual. We've got these emails showing some of them were at her request or she was at least open-minded or seemed to be anticipating it with favor. And therefore, this wasn't coercive.

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As for the beatdown we've seen on tape, they seem to want to suggest he was angry about his phone, something had happened to his phone, and not that she left the freak off. Now, they're not going to get that in evidence in any meaningful way unless he testifies. And if he testifies, all bets are off. It would be a disaster. I think it will be. I think it'll seal his fate beyond doubt.

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And he's just arrogant enough to think he might be able to get away with it. But unless they can convince the jury through some other means that that's what he was angry about when he beat her, I think they're going to accept Cassie's testimony because she was quick to. you know, own it when she didn't know something. She wasn't an argumentative witness.

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Even the judge at one point said to the defense, look, you've got a very cooperative witness. Like, come on. because they were saying, oh, we might need to hold her over to Monday. We don't know when we're going to be done with her. And he was like, you're going to finish up with her on Friday. That's it. This was the schedule. You knew this was the schedule. Get it over with.

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And the baby's about to pop, for God's sake. And by the way, think of the poor stress that this woman's under. For all my female listeners who have had kids, remember yourself in the last two weeks of your pregnancy. Remember what an enormous whale you were and how even emotionally vulnerable you become. It's like somebody could stick a pin in you and you feel like you'd pop.

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You'd be like a Veruca Salt. No, Violet Beauregard type, juicy everywhere, rolling around on the Wonka floor like a blueberry. You just, you're totally not yourself. You're spicy and you're maybe kind of emotional and you just, you don't feel like yourself. You're excited, you're nervous. Even if it's your third kid, I've had three kids.

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It's a big, very big deal to squeeze another human being out of your body. And I mean, it's quite a testament to this woman's strength on some level to be doing this at all. The other woman's going under Jane Doe. Like this woman is like there with her real name.

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And you know, the stress hormones that are running through her body, I'm sure this was calculated by her on whether she wants to do this. You know, am I going to hurt my baby? Am I going to endanger my pregnancy? But things don't get any more emotionally relaxed in the first four weeks of motherhood after you have your baby either. So Claire is very important to her to take the stand and do this.

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Of course, he was very famous for his relationship with J-Lo and being involved in shooting a woman in the face. He allegedly had another person take the fall for him. The woman who got shot in the face says it was Sean Combs. I saw him and that he paid this other guy to take the fall for him and actually serve time for him. The That's not at issue in this case.

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And there's no picture whatsoever being painted of her as a villain. That's why I say it's not like Amber Heard. Even the defense seems to be conceding this is a sweet lady. Their best defense is she was into it. And I'm sorry, but that hotel videotape is just absolutely freaking devastating to their case. Because what we know more than anything is she was not into it that day.

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All she wanted was to get away from him. And he came out there like a criminal thug, beat the shit out of her, and dragged her back to his room in which he was sitting naked prior to putting on that towel. I just think that's going to be enough for most of these jurors. Look at her getting out of there. For the listening audience, we're showing the tape again. He's running, running.

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He's just holding the towel together. He didn't even have the time to like fold it on properly. Grabbed her like a rag doll, kicked her in the head, grabbing her stuff. This isn't public, basically. It's a public hotel. Kicked her again, the anger. So these kicks are He's incredibly angry.

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Oh, and by the way, they tried to establish through Cassie when she was on the stand that he was upset because they took bad drugs the night before. He was on a bad drug trip. I don't give a shit, and neither will the jury. She testified that he was violent with her many times. As I said, she's already gotten sex worker testimony that he heard him abuse. How many bad drug trips did he have?

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And is that really a defense to coercion? I don't think so. I guess that's it. That's where we are right now. This thing's supposed to go eight weeks. We're in week one. Week one. I'm looking at the sex trafficking count.

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All right, interstate and foreign commerce, there was testimony that they crossed state lines and even country lines, that he transported or provided or obtained or patronized or solicited any person to engage in a commercial sex act, again, by use of force, threats of force, fraud, and coercion. So she's the one being forced. The sex worker is the one who makes it commercial.

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He definitely transported and provided and so on prostitutes into these rooms. I think that's the jury's going to accept that. And then the last piece of that second count is that he did it knowingly and in reckless disregard of the fact that it was by force, fraud and coercion. And that's one of the things they're going to argue. He didn't know if she didn't want to be there.

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He didn't know because she was sending him emails saying, I want to do it. Well, he knew at the Intercontinental. She had her clothes on and she was running. And he beat the shit out of her and dragged her back there. He knew. That's just, how are they going to get around that? There's a reason the prosecution opened its case with that videotape.

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And I don't know what else we're going to see on these videotapes or what else the jury's going to see. You know, the prosecution has held its cards close to the vest. The one unknown dynamic here is not totally wowed by the strength of the lawyering on either side.

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I'm just saying he's been infamous for a long time. And we've seen him at the award shows, you know, behaving badly and being a bully and just kind of a douchebag. And we knew that he was a douchebag. I knew he was a douchebag. In my opinion, that's that's what he was. But it's so far beyond that. This is just so far beyond that. This is not this is not the Johnny Depp case, guys.

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Believe it or not, you have James Comey's daughter as the lead prosecutor, and you have Mark Garagos's daughter as one of the lead defense attorneys. Isn't that crazy? And the other defense attorneys, it's actually very interesting. It's Mark Agnifilo and And Mark Magnifico Flow is the guy who defended Keith Raniere in that NXIVM sex cult case from Albany, New York, you know, my hometown.

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And I think if you remember, I've shown you my interview of him when I was in NBC on the NXIVM case and how he was going to defend these claims by these women who got branded as part of a Keith Raniere sex cult with his initials. And Agnifilo said to me, oh, same defense he's bringing here. Look, this is a New York jury, he said. We don't do disempowered women. There's no cult.

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You're not forced to do anything. These women got the brand because they wanted it. They had sex with Keith Raniere because they wanted to. No one made them do anything. And that is literally what they said is going to be the defense here. These women were there of their own volition. Nobody forced them. Sean Combs didn't force them. I've got emails. I've got texts showing.

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I can't wait for the freak off. Let's do it this Friday. There's no force. It's like he tries to spin. Like a girl power moment out of all of this. Like, no, it's impossible for a strong woman to be abused or something. And that's the other defense, of course, that this is all just a weird sex life.

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But I do think we have to bear in mind there's something dangerous about not understanding that domestic violence... can absolutely be a part of sex trafficking and a racketeering case like this, where you're saying it's a criminal enterprise in which you force multiple women into your weird sex web that involves other criminal acts, potentially like kidnapping, like assault, like drugs.

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And there's been some testimony to that effect as well. Just because Domestic violence is a thing that happens outside of the sex trafficking arena. It happens in people's private homes every day in this country far too many times.

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So just because it isn't a thing, it is a thing that's independent of potential criminal charges involving racketeering or sex trafficking, doesn't mean that racketeering and sex trafficking will never involve domestic violence or domestic

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Just because a freaky sex life can happen and does happen every day in this country in non-criminal settings doesn't mean that it can't cross over to being a part of a criminal enterprise like racketeering or something you would see on camera or hear testimony about in a sex trafficking case. So we have to be aware that this is the only defense that's available to Sean Combs.

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She wanted it is really what he's saying. We're both freaks in the bedroom. Everyone was there of their own volition. there was no coercion of anyone in these rooms. Now, frankly, I don't know how he's going to get past the prostitution counts. That's going to be transportation to engage in prostitution, which doesn't really require too much.

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He knowingly transported individuals in interstate or foreign commerce with the intent that they engage in prostitution. It doesn't require fraud, coercion, or force. He knowingly transported individuals in interstate and foreign commerce with the intent that they engage in prostitution. Well, we've already had testimony to that effect, and there's going to be more, my understanding is.

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And Cassie, two witnesses have already testified to that. Now that's got a lower penalty, but the sex trafficking, the one that I read to you before, sex trafficking by force, fraud, or coercion, that alone could be 15 years. And you add the RICO in there, and now we're talking potential life in prison on all these counts.

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This is not like, oh, you know, you've got this controversial guy and this lunatic woman and, you know, she's trying to make a buck off of him or she's not taking responsibility for her piece of it. This is not that. It's also not Epstein or R. Kelly where you're talking about underage girls. You know, the women involved in P. Diddy's web were of age.

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But I'm just saying, he's looking at some very serious prison time on all of these. And it's no defense like she wanted it to the transportation to engage in prostitution count. Now, you just have to keep in mind, she wanted it has to apply across the board. And I just don't know how they're going to get there. There's just too many of them. And the tape is too brutal.

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And the testimony of the sex worker about the fight and him slapping her behind closed doors. And even one of her text messages says, when we both want the freak offs, I love them. Well, what does that mean? So what I see is two okay lawyers on the prosecution and the defense side squaring off against one another and each planting the seeds for their garden. in closing argument.

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And you're going to have the prosecution get up there and they are just going to go element by element on each of these charges. That's what they're doing. They're eliciting testimony to prove each of the elements they need to prove. And they will go through them piecemeal on, you know, kidnapping. What was it? Bribery. That's another one of the predicate acts for the RICO count.

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We've already had the testimony on that. The security guard was offered $100,000 to get rid of the tape. He said that under oath. They really didn't dent that guy up at all. He added more on the stand about he and Combs scuffling over, I think, his phone. Maybe Combs had seen him videotape the videotape. And they got in his grill about why he didn't put that in his report.

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The guy's like, look, I didn't put every detail in the report, but you know. Obviously, the beating happened. The security guard we know is telling the truth on that. We've all seen it. So that guy's talking about bribery. He got bribery there. Looks like he got kidnapping right there on camera. That's two. All you need is two predicate acts for conspiracy under Rico.

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And you generally have other defendants. Again, it appears some have cut deals. That's my belief. I believe there are probably unindicted co-conspirators who are probably going to take the stand against Diddy and say, I arranged the room. I provided the baby oil. I paid the prostitutes. I supplied the drugs. I mean, why are we going eight weeks if we're not going to hear that?

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So all of that is coming our way. And I would say now when we are at week one, and I should offer the caveat that we're doing this Friday morning around 11, and she's back on the witness stand getting crossed again right now, the defense is still crossing, and then the prosecution will do a redirect and then a recross, et cetera.

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So maybe something dramatic will happen today before we go to air with this. But right now, I think the prosecution is getting it done. They're not... They're not wowing me. And the defense is not wowing me either. They don't have, you know, what was her name? Vasquez, the lawyer who cross-examined Amber Heard. Yeah, Camille Vasquez. She was a star. They don't have that on team defense.

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Not so far. Uh, and they don't have a witness who can be made into a villain like Amber Heard pretty easily was, you know, when she did fine on her cross, you remember, I actually found her on her direct. I found her direct kind of compelling. And then she got on cross and it was just so clear. Her whole story fell apart. That's not happening to Cassie Ventura. It's not happening.

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So that's where we are after one week of the Diddy trial. I really think We need this. We need this full airing of this man's behavior. It was past time. And it shouldn't stop at this criminal trial. Like, this isn't my world. I cover politics, you know, for the most part, and, you know, massive cultural stories too.

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But the people who cover the entertainment industry, the people who cover the music industry, where the hell were you losers? That whole, I guess I touched this world a bit in my year at NBC, but that whole world around these celebs is all about one thing, sucking up to them for ongoing access.

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They're adults, but that doesn't mean they're incapable of being sex trafficked in the meaning of the law or part of what essentially amounted to a criminal conspiracy of control and coercion over them. And that's really at heart what the government is alleging against this guy. But P. Diddy's apex of his fame almost was right when he was brought down. I mean, the news reports about him

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It's just all about kissing their round rumps so you can have ongoing access to Diddy and you might be invited to a Diddy party or have him swing by to promote his new record. That's the name of the game.

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You know, listen to the reason Billy Bush describes himself handling Donald Trump on that now infamous bus trip when Trump was the biggest star at the network and Billy Bush worked for Extra or Access Hollywood. And he's like, of course, I was kissing his ass. That's my business. That's like the whole game is ongoing access. There's no one.

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willing to take a serious look and do some real investigative reporting on these people. And there must be, because we have to figure out exactly how widespread his alleged criminal acts may possibly go. Again, he denies it all. He denies all of this and is outraged at the allegations being brought against him.

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And in fairness to Diddy, some have clearly been made in the wake of Cassie's lawsuit that appear to be absolute bullshit. you know, money grubbers who've decided to try to get on the Diddy gravy chain train and shame on them because they undermine the legit claims being made against him or what appear to be. So we have to proceed with an open mind toward his defense.

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And look, maybe he's got some ace in the hole that we haven't yet seen. And maybe he will take the stand and get in more evidence of consent and participation and what happened on that tape that we don't yet know about. And I am open-minded to that. So anyway, thank you for listening. I hope you have a great weekend and we'll pick back up the show on Monday.

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Talk about how in 2023, he'd been nominated, I think, for his first solo Grammy Artist of the Year, whatever it was. Like, he was moving up in the awards ceremony world. He was getting more and more recognition. He was releasing an album. And he was sort of everywhere in the media. And he knew everyone. Everyone.

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You know, I remember that video of him going through the names of the people who came to his parties. It was a who's who of the Oscars and the Grammy Awards. I think I should have said Grammys, not Emmys. That's TV. And he was extremely well-connected. You know, Ashton Kutcher at all of his parties and Oprah, of course. Okay. He's the one who listed her as coming to his 50th birthday party.

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Everyone wanted to be near him, his extreme wealth and his infamous party life. You know, we had seen these videos of Justin Bieber being handed over to him at age 15. Great job. Great job. For his weekend with Diddy Camp. I mean, we don't know, but it certainly looks like Justin Bieber is still suffering the fallout from whatever happened to him as he was coming up the ranks of the music world.

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It really doesn't seem worth it. I mean... I'd love to hear more from his camp about what's real because it's clear he's suffering. We just don't know from what and what mother out there would give her 15-year-old boy over to a grown man who's in the rap industry for a weekend with Diddy Camp without other adult supervision. That's insane.

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Then there was Usher going on with Howard Stern talking about how he was living with Diddy for almost a year and how he would never, never let his young sons at his age then go and do that kind of thing. Like these are guys who are indebted to Diddy professionally saying, you know, this is Usher at least saying this is insane.

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I believe I believe this guy has been abusing people severely for a long, long time. And I don't think the government's wrong that he behaved like a mob boss, like the rules did not apply to him. And let's face it, they didn't seem to. Where were like the repeated police interventions on his behavior? He was too rich. He was too connected. He was too powerful.

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Look how the government opened its case here. And by the way, before I get to that, so he's, you know, reaming back up to the apex of his fame in 2023. And that's when his ex-girlfriend of 11 years, Cassie Ventura, dropped her civil suit against him. And it was settled within 24 hours for $20 million. And that's really what got people interested. Then more and more started to come forward.

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Some were just money grabs because they're like, shit, if she can get paid, maybe I can get paid. And some were probably much more serious than that. Some of the more serious ones have withstood motions to dismiss and are in civil litigation right now. So she brings that case and the feds get interested. And before we know it, there's a federal raid on his homes. And Bob's your uncle.

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We're in criminal court. But Diddy was behaving with impunity for a long, long time. And the way the government opened its case kind of proved how he operated. Their first witness was not Cassie or another alleged sex trafficking victim of his or a sex worker. It was an LAPD guy who had been, prior to joining the LAPD, working security at the Hotel Intercontinental out in L.A.

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and was there working. When that terrible beating we all saw on camera took place, that security guard was the one who got called and who went up to see what the hell was going on. Here's the tape for those of you who have forgotten. He's walking down the hall. Sorry, she's walking down the hall. Standby. Now he's coming in a towel, running, running after her. She's trying to get in the elevator.

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He grabs her by the head. He whips her down to the floor. He kicks her, kicks her in the head. She's down. She stays down. She's testified. He kicks her again. She testified she stayed down because she thought it would minimize her injuries. And he's literally dragging her down the hallway and back into the hotel room. There are a number of reasons the prosecution started with that.

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And with this witness, who is a third party, not alleged to be a victim of Diddy's, not a friend of Diddy's, not a friend of Cassie's, not a sex worker, no one directly involved in this case. This is an LAPD guy who said not only was he there and saw the visible injuries on Cassie, but said that Diddy offered him a bribe. He offered him $100,000 wrapped in a wad.

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First of all, who the hell's walking around with $100,000 cash on them? Wrapped in a wad and that he declined it. And he was smart enough to take out his cell phone and videotape the videotape that was on the security cameras. He was going home for the weekend and he was very wise to do it because he said when he came back on Monday, the hotel tape had disappeared completely.

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And the testimony was that Diddy did find some security agent willing to delete it. Love to hear more about that. But this one, their first witness said, I rejected the bribe and I videotaped what was on that camera. And it was only leaked to CNN recently. We hadn't seen that tape. And it tells you so much. There's no doubt he's a physical abuser. Zero doubt that he is a physical abuser of women.

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That's not his first rodeo. That guy's been around the block. That's not how you beat a woman when you're just trying it out for the first time. Bullshit. There's no question in my mind that this is part of a pattern of abuse that probably went on for years and probably spanned across multiple individuals. And part of the thing we don't know right now is who else is the government calling?

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They don't have to tell us right now. So we don't know. We know a couple of people. We know Cassie. We know they have another female, Jane Doe, who we believe is going to take the stand and say he did this similar behavior to her. There's a third witness who absconded. She decided not to testify and she left the jurisdiction, according to reports.

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We don't know exactly who that was or why, but I'm sure that she's terrified. Of course, they're all terrified because what's not going to come into this trial probably are all the other reports around Sean Combs. He denies all of this, just to be clear. He denies the allegations, the abuse. No, he's admitted that against Cassie in that video because he had to.

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But he denies sex trafficking and he denies racketeering and he denies the prostitution charges and he denies being a serial abuser. But I mean, there are stories, again, about him firebombing Kid Cudi's car because Kid Cudi was dating Cassie. Right. I mean, who does that? He denies everything.

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And there are lots of other allegations about Biggie Smalls and what, if anything, Sean Combs did to him. He was part of his record label. He was part of Sean Combs' bad boys record label. What's he going to say? He's no fan of Diddy. That seems clear. What happened with him? What happened in the past with some of these big rapper battles like Tupac Shakur?

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There are all sorts of questions about what Diddy has done, to whom, when, how extensively involved, none of which this trial is going to get into, okay? It's too big. They've decided, sort of Al Capone-like, to focus on the few charges they think they can prove beyond a reasonable doubt, and the rest is just sort of noise. But, you know, it shouldn't be for the press, the public.

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We should know before. Why don't we choose more carefully who we're going to lionize? Not just us, but like the Harvard's and the MIT's of the world. Look how they lionized Epstein, not to mention the Bill Clinton's. Why don't we choose more carefully who we're going to put up on these pedestals?

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Jeffrey Epstein was lionized even after he had pleaded guilty to this act of prostitution with a 14 year old. Still, Katie Couric's going to his house for dinner. Why? Not to mention Prince Andrew. We're so obsessed with people who attain great wealth and have the trappings of it all around them. It's like some sort of magic elixir to other people, even if they're wealthy too.

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Like, you must know something. You must be someone. Instead of having a healthy disdain for that and questioning... You know, how'd you get it? You know, like, I'd like to know more. If I sit next to Tom Brady at a dinner, I'm going to know exactly how he got his money and I'm fine with that.

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But like an Epstein and a P. Diddy or a Weinstein about whom there's always been a rumor mill of bad behavior. I mean, it just makes you wonder. like before you actually get in business with this person or in bed with this person, how much more would you need to know? How much due diligence should you be doing? And lionizing them, yeah, same rule.

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So Diddy, after the Cassie lawsuit, gets hit with a bunch of lawsuits, and then ultimately the raids, and then this criminal case. And the feds, Al Capone style, have not charged everything under the sun. They've charged three main charges, racketeering, sex trafficking, and the transport of a prostitute. And I'll tell you, I don't know about the racketeering charge. It's pretty sweeping.

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And I'll tell you what the general elements are, just so you can understand. I mean, it's a lot. And you can ask yourself whether you think they've proved their case. It's going to be... Probably an uphill battle on the racketeering. That's the toughest one. But the other two are looking good. Racketeering. Okay. That he has...

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with others, and just because no one else has been charged, which normally in a RICO case, you would have others charged.

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It was a statute designed to get mob bosses, trying to get at criminal behavior that's like a web of criminal behavior that you can't necessarily prove like the one thing or the statute of limitations expired on the other thing, but you're just showing this bad guy who's operating what's clearly an enterprise that over and over engages in criminal problems or criminal acts.

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So they've used it against many non-mob bosses since it was created, and they've used it against people like Epstein, they were going to, for this kind of behavior. So what they're saying is that the defendant and others, known and unknown, being persons employed by and associated with his enterprise, engaged in,

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And in a way that affects interstate commerce, they conspired together and they engaged in an effort to violate the racketeering laws of the United States. And what they say is we mean that they committed multiple acts involving, by the way, under the law, I think you just need to, multiple acts involving kidnapping, stand by, reading through their indictment, kidnapping, arson, bribery,

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Quote, the last time was a mistake, but since has made me feel a little dirty and grimy as opposed to sexual and spontaneous. That's the only reason why I go back and forth in my mind. with wanting and not wanting to do it. Ms. Ventura writing in 2017 to Mr. Combs, quote, I love our freak offs when we both want it. Ms. Ventura on the stand dismissing the text as, quote, just words at that point.

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The defense also referencing a 2017 message from Mr. Combs planning an upcoming freak off. Mr. Combs writing, didn't hear from you, so I just put some plans in motion. Let me know to stop. Just let me know if I'm headed in the wrong direction so I can cancel. the defense aiming to portray the relationship and the sex behavior as consensual. Cross-examination set to continue today.

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Mr. Combs faces up to life in prison if convicted. On Sunday, Vice President J.D. Vance and Secretary of State Marco Rubio set to attend Pope Leo XIV's inaugural mass at the Vatican. The first American pope born in Chicago as Robert Prevost elected last week to head up the Catholic Church and its 1.4 billion Catholics.

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As a cardinal, Prevost running a Twitter account that occasionally shared content critical of the Trump administration's immigration policy. calling out J.D. Vance specifically, the vice president and adult Catholic convert responding last week.

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This will be Mr. Vance's second trip to the Vatican since taking office. He was the last American official to visit with Pope Francis before the late pontiff's passing on Easter Monday. And that'll do it for your AM Update. I'm Megyn Kelly. Join me back here for The Megyn Kelly Show, live on SiriusXM Triumph Channel 111 at New East, on YouTube.com slash Megyn Kelly, and on all podcast platforms.

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Seashells arranged to resemble the numbers 86, 47. In gang slang, 86 means to get rid of or kill someone. 47, of course, an apparent reference to President Trump, the 47th president. Director Comey captioned the image, cool shell formation on my beach walk. Donald Trump Jr. posting, quote, just James Comey casually calling for my dad to be murdered. This is who the Dem media worships, demented.

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White House Deputy Chief of Staff Taylor Budowich posting on X, quote, while President Trump is currently on an international trip to the Middle East, the former FBI director puts out what can clearly be interpreted as a hit on the sitting president of the United States, a message etched in the sand. This is deeply concerning to all of us and is being taken seriously.

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About three hours later, Mr. Comey deleting the offending post, uploading a new one that reads, quote, I posted earlier a picture of some shells I saw on a beach walk, which I assumed were a political message. I didn't realize some folks associate those numbers with violence. It never occurred to me, but I oppose violence of any kind, so I took the post down.

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Some of Mr. Comey's defenders say 86 is just restaurant slang for canceling something or getting rid of something. Yeah, that too implies murder. In any event, the former FBI director is certainly aware of commonly known gang terminology and the elevated threat environment surrounding President Trump, who has survived at least two assassination attempts.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Friday, May 16th, 2025, and this is your AM Update. A disturbing Instagram post from former FBI Director James Comey, seemingly aimed at President Trump, sets off a firestorm.

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FBI Director Kash Patel writing on X, quote, We are aware of the recent social media post by former FBI Director James Comey directed at President Trump. We are in communication with the Secret Service and Director Curran. Primary jurisdiction is with the Secret Service on these matters, and we, the FBI, will provide all necessary support.

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Outrage from Democrats and the media after the Trump administration grants refugee status to a group it says is facing racial persecution in South Africa.

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Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard with an unsparing view of this behavior on Fox News with Jesse Waters last night.

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South African President Cyril Ramaphosa criticizing the white South Africans who left his country seeking refuge in the U.S., President Ramaphosa saying, quote, we don't run away from our problems. We must stay here and solve our problems. When you run away, you're a coward. And that's a real cowardly act.

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On Monday, the Trump administration welcoming 59 refugees from South Africa, saying they're facing discrimination in their home country. The arrivals fast-tracked following a February executive order granting refugee status to Afrikaners. citing racial persecution and land seizures there. President Ramaphosa signing the Expropriation Act of 2024.

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It's a controversial law allowing the government to seize land, in some cases, without compensation to the owner when it's equitable and in the public interest.

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The law defines public interest as, quote, the nation's commitment to land reform and to reforms to bring about equitable access to all South Africa's natural resources in order to redress the results of past discriminatory laws or practices. Supporters of the law say it's a step toward long overdue land reform following the apartheid legacy.

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Critics call it abject racial discrimination, warning of a dangerous encroachment on property rights. President Trump's executive order granting refugee status to white South African Afrikaners framing them as victims of racial persecution by their own government.

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That government, the African Congress, issuing a statement saying, these are not refugees fleeing persecution, but are fleeing justice, equality, and accountability for historic privilege. Radio host Buck Sexton, Tuesday on the Megyn Kelly Show, describing race-based laws targeting South Africa's white minority.

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The Supreme Court takes up sweeping questions about judicial power and President Trump's challenge to birthright citizenship. And cross-examination begins on the star witness in the Diddy trial. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update. One in two adults have high blood pressure and many don't even know it. That's a ticking time bomb. But here's the good news.

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This small batch of white refugees waving American flags, wearing American flags upon arrival in the U.S., sparking outrage amongst the leftist media commentators. A dramatic shift in attitudes from the one toward the millions of refugees arriving under the Biden administration, often under false or loose claims of asylum. Examples here of coverage from ABC, MSNBC, and CNN.

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Small historical note, Afrikaners descend primarily from Dutch settlers arriving in South Africa almost 400 years ago. Many settling regions that were sparsely populated or uninhabited at the time. The next G20 conference set for November in Johannesburg. The Washington Post citing anonymous sources reporting the National Security Council has ordered all U.S.

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agencies and departments to suspend work on that upcoming conference. In April, Mr. Trump, posting to Truth Social, quote, In recent years, reports of white farmers brutally murdered in rural South Africa prompting claims that they are being targeted on a racial basis. Critics accusing the government of turning a blind eye.

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On Monday, President Trump again describing white South African farmers as victims of a genocide. South African officials strongly deny the accusation. President Ramaphosa set to visit the White House next Wednesday. Coming up, the Supreme Court takes up nationwide injunctions in a case involving Trump's move to end birthright citizenship.

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The Supreme Court on Thursday hearing oral arguments in cases where lower courts blocked President Trump's executive order purporting to end birthright citizenship, with the justices focusing on whether... a single district judge can issue a nationwide injunction stopping the full force and effect of a law or an executive order. U.S.

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Solicitor General John Sauer's opening argument made the case that judges should only be able to issue rulings that apply to the parties in the case before them.

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Liberal Justice Sonia Sotomayor stepping on Mr. Sauer with a rapid-fire round of questioning, getting called out by the Chief Justice Roberts for her interruptions. That's rare. The Solicitor General arguing that if a lot of people are affected by a policy— They should file a class action lawsuit instead of asking one judge to block the policy for the whole nation.

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Only a class, only by a class. Can I hear the rest of his answer? Conservative Justice Clarence Thomas, who has previously written about the court's impending need to address the use of nationwide injunctions, questioning the history of this practice.

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Joe Biden appointee Justice Katonji Brown Jackson appearing to support nationwide injunctions, saying they encourage the government to work quickly toward the Supreme Court.

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Conservative Justice Samuel Alito appearing to favor limiting the use of nationwide injunctions, questioning New Jersey Solicitor General Jeremy Feigenbaum, arguing on behalf of a coalition of Democrat states challenging the birthright citizenship order.

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The high court expected to issue a decision by the end of June. Day four of the Sean Diddy Combs criminal trial in New York. Federal prosecutors accusing the rapper of, quote, creating a criminal enterprise whose members and associates engaged in and attempted to engage in, among other crimes, sex trafficking, forced labor, kidnapping, arson, bribery, and obstruction of justice.

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Star witness Cassie Ventura on Thursday taking the stand for the third day, this time for cross-examination. The defense attempting to portray a complicated yet consensual relationship between Cassie and Combs. Ms. Ventura telling the defense she loved him for 11 years, believing Mr. Combs truly loved her too. the defense team presenting an email exchange between the couple from January 2008.

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Mr. Combs, quote, it makes me so happy that you would fly to Atlanta just to see me. I'm a very lucky man. I love you. I miss you. Can't wait to hold you. Ms. Ventura replying, quote, I'm a very lucky woman. I miss you so much. I'd fly wherever you needed me, whenever. I love you. The witness saying that was early in the relationship. Ms.

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Ventura describing the beginning of the relationship as, quote, very sweet, saying Mr. Combs was a, quote, charismatic, big personality that everyone really loved. The defense presenting a 2009 text from Ms. Ventura referencing the so-called freak-offs, the bizarre sex rituals they participated in together.

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I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and episode five of our special series, Megyn Kelly Investigates. We're tackling the disappearance of baby Lisa Irwin. One in two adults have high blood pressure. Many don't even know it. That's a ticking time bomb. But here's the good news. You have the power to take control naturally with 120 Life.

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Okay. And did they tell you you were cleared and? You were good to go?

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Well, what we're trying to do is help them because the way I see it is we're trying to provide them with closure. You can help us do that and with some comfort, you know, and just figuring out what the story is.

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You've heard his name again and again in this series. Everyone wants to hear from him and find out what he knows. Well, after 12 plus years, we found him. If you're watching, that's him in the red sweatshirt on the bike. We tracked him back to New Jersey, where he was arrested for shoplifting in 2022. Now that we know where he is, it's time to figure out the best way to get him to talk.

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General. So why would somebody have said they saw you outside of the Irwin's house that night?

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Yeah. And you guys used to date, but did she have any involvement in this whole thing?

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Now, did you have those phones? Those... Because we we understand that you told a lawyer Cindy short that you found those phones.

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What do you think happened to those phones? You think the same person who has the baby has the phones?

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Why do you think, because you knew the neighborhood a little bit, but certainly better than we do, why would somebody take a baby?

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Yeah. Well, what do you think, I mean, I know that There were a lot of people in the area who were on drugs, meth, and so on. And we heard a little bit of that from Megan. Is there any chance somebody got messed up on drugs and did something to the baby?

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Well, why would anybody say that they saw you outside of the Irwin's house that night?

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You've never been in that house, never, never once. So. If your fingerprints are on those phones, what does that tell us?

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Yeah. Like, why would your fingerprints be on those phones? I don't know why.

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Here's part of my strategy session with our go-to experts, Bill Stanton and Phil Houston. So unbelievably, we found Jersey. After all this time, nobody could find him. Cindy Short found him, but the cops apparently didn't know where he was for some time. Jim Spellman, who's been doing yeoman's work on this case, couldn't find him. We found him. And now we got to decide what to do with him.

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OK. And you heard that story. You mentioned that one of the phones called Megan Wright that night.

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She called the police and told them you were going to be at the Watson's that night? Why?

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So you got you got questioned by the cops and the FBI. Yeah, separate. Yeah, two separate. Yeah, and they took your DNA. Yeah, and then how did it resolve? What do they say to you? It was all over. Was it just two sit downs, one with the cop, one with the FBI?

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And was it just that one time? Yeah. For a few hours or how long?

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So I've... A couple other questions. I'm sorry to take up so much of your time, but do you know who Dane Greathouse is?

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Is there any reason that you would have called Dane Greathouse on the night the baby went missing?

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And I'm also wondering now, is there any way, you've been very generous with your time, can we do this with like, can I bring a camera person over here and we can do this properly?

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So got to figure out what the approach should be. I'm perfectly happy to just go knock on his door and see what happens. But

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Do you think taking her was planned, or do you think it was a spur-of-the-moment thing? What's your guess?

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Because you knew a lot of the players in the neighborhood. To me, it seems too sophisticated to have a baby be sold. Who would be able to just steal a baby on the spur of the moment and then sell it?

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Like if Deborah killed the baby inadvertently or on purpose. I don't think most people think if she killed the baby, it was on purpose. Maybe she dropped the baby, maybe whatever. If she did that, she got rid of the body in a way that she fooled even the cops. So how could that have happened? Like you knew the neighborhood. Like what was the backyard like? Do you know what?

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Describe the area a little bit. No. Around the Irwin's house? I don't know.

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That night, did you work at the Watson's the night the baby went missing?

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say well i'm asking you beyond because you know there are there's the one set of neighbors that say they saw somebody who matches your description they didn't say you with a baby that that night like around midnight do you remember that i heard that there was a witness that

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That's what I thought. Over the years, you know, I've considered everybody. I've considered you. I don't know. I don't know what the answer is. To this moment, I don't know. But I definitely wanted to talk to you to get your... You're a lot closer to it than I am, so you got better answers than I do. What were you doing that night?

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Yeah. That's a pretty good setup. Yeah. So, okay, so you were not in the neighborhood that night. No. Okay, so if anybody saw somebody looking like you, it wasn't you. No. Is there anyone you think we should talk to, or what can we do to help advance this? Any thoughts?

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Can we talk for just one more minute about Cindy Short and that visit she paid you in the jail?

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She said she thought at one point you were, like, wrestling with maybe a confession. She didn't say that you confessed him.

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Mm-hmm. Does this case, I don't know, do you pay attention to it, like when it hits the news? What does it bring up for you?

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I just want to say that the way I would normally do this is I would go, I would ring the doorbell, and I would say, are you John? Hi, I'm Megyn Kelly, and I'm trying to investigate what happened to this poor missing baby. You know, a lot of allegations have been made about you. Will you talk to me? I'd love to give you the chance to answer some of the things that have been said about you.

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How do you feel like it affects you with your neighbors and your life?

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Let me ask you this. How do you want, like, what do you want my viewers, my audience to know about you in this case and the things that are being said about you?

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Look, I know you don't talk a lot, so I appreciate you letting me come on here and ask these questions.

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Oh, my god. Start with the tongue, Bill Stanton. That's what I recommend. Start there. He's got it. Delicious. Okay. It's so good to have you guys here in this setting. I've been looking forward to this from the moment we walked off property there, Bill. And just so the audience knows, I have not spoken with Phil or Bill at all about this since the day of. I haven't spoken to Phil at all.

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So I have no idea what he thought of the whole exchange. And yet we spent so much time preparing for it. So this is exciting. Bill, we walked out of there, we got into the van and really could not believe it. Like, I think you and I were both like, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, you know? And then I asked him if he would sit down with our cameras. He said no.

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I couldn't believe how much he talked. I really thought at any second we're going to get kicked out of here.

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And then, Phil, you're the human lie detector. What did you think?

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I'm thrilled to hear you say deception detected because that's what I thought. I walked out of there and I was like, I've got more doubts about this guy than ever. But our whole team did not feel that way. And I just thought there were my own doubts. baby Phil lie detector abilities, right, just because I've followed you for so long, were going off like crazy.

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I thought there were many indications of deception. He had too many explanations. And I remember asking you about Megan Wright, what would a truth teller sound like? And you said, I can't tell you that exactly, but there would have been a whole lot more. I didn't do it. You know, I didn't do it.

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So let's play the first exchange that we had with Jersey, where he brings up the death penalty, which, you know, Bill and I were both like, whoa, what, huh? Let's watch that. I was wondering if you would talk to me.

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Well, we did accurately predict that his first instinct would be to say, the lawyers aren't going to let me talk, you know, didn't foresee the death penalty line, but he did try that. And thankfully, thanks to your guidance, Phil, we shut it down, got him off of that sticky place. And then I launched with the first Phil Houston question.

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And wondering if you can tell us what your involvement was in the disappearance of baby Lisa.

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Oh, okay. I got it. So whenever you say the truthful person would have said it this way, that helps because you do think about yourself wrongfully accused of being involved in something as awful as this. What involvement did you have? Yeah, you'd say none.

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But then he seemed, Bill, to be trying to say they would have found my DNA. If I'd been involved, they would have found that DNA because I was like, what? Right? I thought he was saying the same thing. Then he seemed to try to clarify, if I were guilty, the evidence of me having been there would have been all over the place.

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OK, but but back to Phil's point, I think, Phil, I mean, I don't I don't want to put the words in your mouth, but I feel like what you usually say in this circumstance, Phil, is the truthful person doesn't engage in convincing behavior. They don't need to say they would have found my DNA. They would have found my fingerprints. They're just kind of like, I didn't do it.

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Why? Why was he up on the ladder? Because the audience, the viewing audience will see the listening audience needs to be told he didn't need to be up there. His work, of course, was paused while he was talking to me and to Bill, and he easily could have stepped down and come over to us or been face to face. So what did you make of his his choice to stay elevated and on the ladder?

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So can you describe that, Phil? So how would that look in your scenario?

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The latter is not only elevating him, but it's a barrier between him and me. There is that sort of defensive barrier. thing of it's in front of me. I've got my arms around it. I'm safer behind this ladder. And we'll definitely get into why did he talk? Because that was our big debate before Bill and I went, is he going to? But I've got to get to the phones before we do that.

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So that was the one thing we discussed beforehand. If he would admit to us what he told Cindy Short, that he found allegedly the three phones on the night baby Lisa went missing, that would be a tantamount to an admission. Well, here's how that went in part. Now, did you have those phones? Those...

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One of the things he did there, Phil, which you've called attention to in the past, it can be part of a cluster of deception, is hands above the midline. He started to move his hands up like, oh, she did this, she did this. And you've told me in the past, and I know from your book, Spy the Lie, which everyone should read,

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When you're lying, the nervous energy has to shoot out of you somehow, whether it's your leg crossed and foot clicking, or you start to rock, but hands above the midline, touching your nose, touching your head, moving around, can be part of a deception cluster. So what did you make of the phone's answer?

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I was surprised that immediately he knew who Cindy Short was and he knew about the phone conversation. He didn't stutter like, what, huh? Oh, that was nonsense.

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He figured out to say he has the phones suggests he had the baby. And he knew he didn't want us going there. But but this like Phil, this was the most obvious lie, I would say, even to the casual observer without the Phil Houston training, because why would a guy sitting in jail talking to a lawyer make up a lie about having phones when he didn't have phones, quote, to make her happy?

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That was his weakest part because there were other moments where I thought, okay, you know what? He's doing better here. And one of those moments was when he tried to say he and Megan Wright broke up and he never saw her. And I said, you didn't stalk her at all or however I phrased it. You know, you didn't show up at her house. And he owned that one right away.

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I pulled up on the front lawn in a stolen van one time, but I didn't talk to her. So what was your reaction to that, Phil? Because he could have said, no, I never did. But he kind of owned her story of driving the truck onto her property and scaring her a little.

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I'll tell you what, Doug Brunt, my husband, he watched this whole thing and he had one big takeaway having watched Jersey. He said, you know who he reminds me of? He said he reminds me of this guy exactly.

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Frank Pantangeli from The Godfather when he testified before Congress on whether Michael Corleone was in fact the godfather and a member of the crime family and he had now had a change of heart before the... Here, here it is. Watch. Tell me if this looks like Jersey.

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It's amazing. Okay, so what's your takeaway now, having watched it, Phil? When it wrapped up, having watched the 25 minutes, what did you walk away saying? There are signs of deception and...

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So why did he talk to me, Phil? We, that was our big debate. That's why Bill had to eat his shoe. because he said he's not going to talk. And you said he'll talk. It happens. And sure enough, he did talk. And the audience knows because they went through this with us, but he hasn't talked in all this time. As you know, I always go by my own daughter. She's about to turn 13.

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That whole time, he's kept quiet. He's never made a public statement. He's never even been caught on camera in any meaningful way. So why did he talk?

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That's a good point. It was kind of ironic that he ended the exchange with honesty is the best policy. Honesty is the best policy, like touting his own honesty, which is another tell, Phil, is it not?

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And then he followed it up with, this thing has been effing my head up, but I'm not guilty of anything. What did you make of that statement?

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What did you make of Phil when he said, I said, why would somebody, do you think it happened spur of the moment? Do you think it was planned out? And he didn't bite there at all. He's like, I don't know. And then I rounded back again and he said, I don't know. And then he's like, you already asked me this. You know, he, he did, he was pretty firm on that one. Like, I don't know.

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And stop asking me that. That I thought was a point in his favor.

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Yeah, with confidence, right? He challenged whether his fingerprints were on the phone. And the other thing he challenged with confidence was this.

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You see? Well, I'm asking you beyond because, you know, there's the one set of neighbors that say they saw somebody who matches your description, they didn't say you, with a baby that night, like around midnight.

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So, you know, this is a tried and true technique of Phil's. We've actually seen no evidence that Tanko's fingerprints are on any cell phones.

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Oh. I failed to see the forest through the trees on that one. Oh, again. So that's the Phil Houston twist. The truth teller would have said, I wasn't there. So she definitely did not see me.

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So having watched Megan Wright and John Tanko talk about their relationship and their time together, what takeaways?

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Interesting. She wasn't sounding that way about him. However, like, I don't know what he's capable of. It was more her line.

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You're so interesting, Phil. Fascinating talking to you. Okay, now we're going to bring in Jim Spellman. Very excited to have Jim Spellman with us, a reporter of CNN at the time this story broke, now independent. And Jim, you've been watching this whole thing. You've been watching the series. You've been working with us on this. What did you make of this exchange with John Tanko?

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Well said. I couldn't agree with what you just said more. And that's really our goal is to have somebody just take a fresh look at the case, fresh eyes, new eyes, take a look at the case. He told us for the first time there that he had not been cleared by law enforcement. That was an interesting admission. I think he didn't know that I believed he had been cleared.

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Otherwise, maybe he would have just gone with that. But it's because I asked it in an open-ended way, like, were you cleared? And he said, no, no one ever told me that. I thought that was very interesting.

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Why else, Jim, would there be a 10-year gap between the last time the Kansas City police called Jeremy or Deborah and today?

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And you know what's really chilling is here we are all these years later, they've never found remains of any kind.

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And if this were a murder, an intentional murder, an accidental death, let's face it, whoever did it of the characters we're talking about, you wouldn't think that these are sophisticated criminals who actually managed to avoid the police detection and then got rid of the body in a way that very few criminals are able to or never got dug up by a dog, never came up

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if it had been put in the water, you know, like we saw with Lacey Peterson, like this is the one criminal who managed in just that short window of time to conduct the perfect crime. No DNA, no fingerprints, no proof of any kind, disposed of the body in the way that it never came back. So there is a real possibility if you look at that, that she wasn't killed.

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We haven't really talked about it that much, but that she really wasn't killed and that she was either sold or given to somebody or showed up on the doorstep of a firehouse in some other town, that would make some more sense given the absence of a body.

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You're amazing. Thank you so much for the great work you've done on this. You've been a highlight of every episode. It's been a pleasure.

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And that's the conclusion for now of our Megyn Kelly Investigates series, but it's not the end. So we would love to hear from you. And from your questions and feedback, we will put together an episode six. Remember, we did this with the Idaho murders and it worked out really well. And then we will bring you that episode in a couple of weeks. What do you think happened? What's your theory?

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What do you find persuasive? Who did you believe? Who did you not? And do you have any actual leads, especially if you live in the Kansas City area, or even if you don't? You might know one of the players. You might know something you want to share with us. Please send your thoughts to me. It's Megan, M-E-G-Y-N, at megankelly.com. We will be reviewing all of your emails, just as we always do.

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And I thank you sincerely for joining us along this journey. We'll see you soon. If you're watching right now, please take a look at this picture of Lisa as she might look now. If you're listening, you can see the photo on YouTube or just go to megankelly.com. If you see her or think you might have any information that can help find her, please write to me.

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The address is megan, M-E-G-Y-N, at megankelly.com. You can also pass along tips on the baby Lisa story to the Kansas City Police Department or encourage them to get active on this case. That would be very helpful. Reach out at kccrimestoppers.com, kccrimestoppers.com, or call them at 816-474-TIPS, T-I-P-S, that's 816-474-8477. there has never been a better time to take control of your health.

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So, Phil, psychologically at that moment, what are you trying to do? Build him up into thinking like... that you actually believe he could be helpful, that he's not an adversary or a target, but that we're all in on this together?

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I feel like we're formulating a plan where I kind of like, I like what Phil is saying. Like, well, we show up, we just, we're kind of open about it. We don't pop out with cameras. It's clearly you and me, Bill, walking to the door. You're close, but I'm like in the lead. And we ask to speak with him following, you know, loosely Phil's script. Yes.

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Now, what about Phil right at the top when I ask my first question and he gives me the line that my lawyer told me not to talk about this. I'm not talking about this.

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So if he's talking in any way, in a confrontational way, in a confessional way, in a friendly way, I'm going to be wrestling with saying, would you mind if I bring my cameras in and we can have the same conversation? Because I think that will shut it down. Now, I'd much rather have his agreement to doing it on camera.

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I understand why we have to do it with the undercover camera, and I think it's a good idea. But it would be so much nicer if we could just have his agreement to do it like this.

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Well, I mean, he's gone 12 years without getting caught on camera at all. It's amazing how he's managed to dodge. So I have zero expectation he's going to say, yes, I'll sit down in front of your camera. Yeah. But there'll be a point if he's talking to me where I'm going to at least try.

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Wow. Well, if we manage to emerge with actually any sort of meaningful comment, nevermind confession, but meaningful comment from him on this, I mean, that'll be huge. Like I say, nobody's even seen the guy.

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Well, and honestly, just in all fairness, we want to go to him and give him the chance to confront these allegations that have been made. His name keeps coming up. We actually do want to hear what he has to say about all of this. This is his chance.

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And so on March 7th, 2024, I got rigged up with hidden cameras. I wore a shirt with a camera in one of the buttons and another hidden camera in a glasses case sticking out of my shirt pocket. New Jersey is a one party consent state, so we can record our conversation without obtaining Tanko's permission in case he declines a traditional on camera interview.

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John Tanko, nicknamed Jersey, the handyman in the neighborhood with a long rap sheet, the ex-boyfriend of Megan Wright, the woman whose phone was called by the Irwins' stolen phone the night their baby, little Lisa, went missing. And the guy who tantalizingly told attorney Cindy Short he just happened to find three cell phones and then tossed them somewhere around the time the baby went missing.

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Yeah, I mean, I think that's probably where, because now he's seen us. Right. And he's not coming out. I'm just going to ask him if I can buy those chickens.

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No. No, because we don't want to use subterfuge, right? Like, I don't want to put him on the defensive right away, like, per Phil. I think we want to say, like, I think I want to go over there and say, hey, let's go to the fence and let's do it.

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I do. I will. All right. John. Hi. How are you doing? I'm Megan Kelly. How's it going?

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Two horses? We've got like a whole farm going on back here. Thanks for talking to us. I've been working for 10 years on the baby Lisa case. Yeah, and it's been tireless for us. I mean, we're obsessed. No, you know, we know a lot now. We have come to an understanding of some basics, what happened and who was involved.

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And we are really hoping that you can help us, that you can help us fill out some of the story. We think it's really important to get your input. And I was wondering if you would talk to me.

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You know, the thing is, the thing is, it's like Deborah and Jeremy have been, you know, tortured. And so all we're trying to do is like sketch out the story and wondering if you can tell us what your involvement was in the disappearance of baby Lisa.

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That's donewithdebt.com. Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer caving on the budget battle, a complete reversal from his position just hours earlier, announcing on the Senate floor Thursday night he will not let the government shut down.

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Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer caving in the budget battle, announcing he will vote to allow the government funding bill to go forward, averting a shutdown.

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Despite Senator Schumer's early assertions of unity, the Democrat Party remaining deeply divided on their spending bill strategy, some fearing a shutdown would be worse politically than passing the Republican CR. Punchbowl News reporting New York Senator Kirsten Gillibrand could be heard yelling loudly through the doors of the Senate Dems' lunch, arguing against shuttering the government.

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Eight Democrats are needed to advance the bill in a procedural vote. They will not be required to vote on the actual bill itself, which only requires a simple majority, which the Republicans have. With Senator Schumer's support of the procedural move, the bill is likely to pass later today, just in the nick of time. The European Union announcing a 50% tariff on select U.S.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Friday, March 14th, 2025, and this is your AM Update.

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Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick on Bloomberg said, admonishing the European Union and Canada for not appreciating the gravity of the president's tariff strategy.

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Secretary Letnick saying retaliatory tariffs on items such as sports equipment and alcohol are not serious policy measures, only serving to frustrate the president further, escalating tensions even more. A key plank in President Trump's economic vision, bringing back aluminum and steel manufacturing, shoring up national security and creating American jobs he believes we never should have lost.

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U.S. steel and aluminum production began declining in the 1970s as foreign competitors like Japan, modernized and ramped up production. The decline accelerated in the 1990s with the rise of China and the passage of NAFTA. Foreign producers operate under different labor laws and environmental regulations.

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They're able to manufacture metals more cheaply, often selling them below market value, making it tough for U.S. manufacturers to compete. The The Bureau of Labor Statistics reporting in June 1979, manufacturing employment reached an all-time peak of 19.6 million. Today, the number's around 13 million. President Trump summing up his views on U.S.

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Russian President Vladimir Putin signaled tentative acceptance of a ceasefire deal, but says he has some concerns he would like to speak to President Trump about. President Trump inviting New York Governor Kathy Hochul to the White House, trying to pressure her into reversing New York's Green New Deal fanaticism. And Michelle Obama's podcast debut does little to squash swirling divorce rumors.

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trade policy on Truth Social, writing, quote, The U.S. doesn't have free trade. We have stupid trade. The entire world is ripping us off. Markets still spooked by the uncertainty of the tariff wars. The Wall Street Journal reporting the S&P 500 losing about $5.3 trillion from its mid-February peak, the Nasdaq down 14% from its December high, and the Dow dropping 9% from its record level.

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Treasury Secretary Scott Besson on CNBC reassuring investors.

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Secretary Besant saying markets will stabilize if Congress can work together to pass tax cuts for individuals and businesses. Russian President Vladimir Putin expressing at a Thursday news conference some reservations about the ceasefire proposal agreed to by the Ukrainians.

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Mr. Putin saying the Russians agree with the ceasefire in theory, but they have additional concerns, and he would like to speak to President Trump before agreeing to anything.

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Mr. Putin initially justified his invasion based on a number of reasons. The first on the list, Ukraine's push to join NATO. Mr. Trump as recently as Thursday reiterating that will not happen. Mr. Putin also claimed the invasion was intended to denazify Ukraine. The president of Ukraine, Volodymyr Zelensky, is Jewish.

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Prior to the war, Ukraine was home to one of the largest Jewish populations in Europe. Mr. Putin also asserted without evidence the Ukrainian government was preparing a military offensive against Russian-backed separatists in the Donbass region. This region borders Russia, and it's home to primarily Russian speakers.

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The Russian military currently occupies about 20% of Ukraine, including the Donbass region, its fate subject to further peace negotiations. Despite media reporting suggesting Mr. Putin's statement is an indication he will refuse this deal, President Trump responding with cautious optimism from the Oval.

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The power plant in question, Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant, is the largest in Europe. It's been under Russian control since 2022 and is not currently operational. In peacetime, the plant provides about 20% of Ukrainian energy. It is a key bargaining chip in Russian possession.

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On CNBC, Treasury Secretary Scott Besson warning the president is prepared to fully ratchet up pressure on the Russians in order to get a deal done.

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Special Envoy Steve Witkoff is in Moscow. Long days of intense negotiations on all sides to come. Coming up, President Trump invites New York Governor Kathy Hochul to the White House, pressuring her into reversing New York's Green New Deal fanaticism. And Michelle Obama's podcast does little to squelch divorce rumors. So many people these days are focusing on getting healthy.

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New York Governor Kathy Hochul meeting President Trump at the White House this morning to discuss a pipeline project hinging on New York's approval. The Constitution Pipeline, previously killed by New York in 2020, would run 124 miles bringing gas from Pennsylvania to New York, where it could then be moved across New England.

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President Trump telling reporters from the Oval, the project is an easy win to reduce energy costs.

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The president writing on Truth Social that if New York does not give final approval, then they will use other authorities to get the project through. Governor Hochul embracing radical green energy policies. She aims to stifle and ultimately phase out natural gas in the Empire State. In 2023, New York became the first state to begin eliminating natural gas hookups in most new buildings.

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Barron's reporting the pipeline's builder is Williams Companies. Its CEO, Alan Armstrong, says he will not build this thing without the governor's buy-in, even if he does get federal approval. Mr. Armstrong's saying, quote, we are not going to go putting our neck out until they invite us with the red carpet rolled out.

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Williams Companies says Mr. Armstrong lost hundreds of millions of dollars trying to build two failed pipelines in the Northeast over the past decade. Former First Lady Michelle Obama, noticeably absent from the public eye since last year, finally found launching a podcast with her brother, Craig Robinson.

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The podcast, IMO, in my opinion, premiering on Wednesday to a lukewarm reception and low viewership. The podcast, produced by Higher Ground Productions and Obama Company, will feature Mrs. Obama and Mr. Robinson sharing life lessons and conversations with their elitist friends.

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The first episode premiered to 42,000 views after 24 hours. And the second featuring actress Issa Rae lagging even further, just 13,000. The show's YouTube numbers appearing to receive a slight boost following reports highlighting how bad the audience engagement was.

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Newsweek running cover for the less than stellar performance reporting, it's also important to note that this new podcast from Obama is very much in its infancy. The Michelle Obama podcast was released in 2020 and was the most successful original in Spotify history. Well, that podcast launched in July of 2020, the height of George Floyd rioting and COVID shutdowns.

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Her latest podcast was promoted by virtually everyone. Lately, the biggest buzz surrounding Mrs. Obama, however, is not about where she is. It's about where she is not. A recent slate of solo appearances from her husband, Barack Obama, sparking divorce rumors. In January, President Obama attended President Jimmy Carter's funeral. and then President Trump's inauguration without his wife.

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Last week, Mr. Obama went to dinner with his daughters and then an L.A. Clippers game without his wife again. On Valentine's Day, the couple sharing coordinated messages on social media with the exact same photo posted, but staying silent, of course, on swirling divorce rumors. Mrs. Obama using her new platform instead to offer some less than flattering words about her husband of three decades.

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Nothing. On Thursday, Mrs. Obama was seen in public for the first time this year for a live taping of her podcast at the South by Southwest Festival in Austin, Texas. No reporting of Mr. Obama anywhere in sight. And that'll do it for your AM Update. I'm Megyn Kelly.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. Happy Valentine's Day and happy Friday. And nothing says love like inviting on your show one of your frenemies. No, he's not a frenemy. I'm just kidding.

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I want to say one word in defense of Steve Bannon, with whom I've had a very interesting past 10 years. Oh, you have.

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I think Steve Benn is actually very, very brilliant and was integral to Trump's, especially his first victory. But I think the second victory, too. And I know you may you may not like him, but I know that he's had quite a hand in staffing up Trump point two point zero. And he's always there behind the scenes. He's a brilliant strategist. He may not be your cup of tea.

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He's not everybody's, but he is very important to Trump's success and has been, in my opinion. I want to say this. On the subject of the illegals, it is 59% of the American public approved deporting all of them, not just the criminals. The criminals is way up. That's extremely high. But just anybody who's here illegally, 59%.

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I mean, that's huge to have 60% of the country agreeing on an issue like that. So that's why Tom Homan is saying they're all going. Now, realistically, are they all going? No, because it's impossible. We're having a difficult time even finding the ones who have committed felonies on top of being here unlawfully.

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And for you to say that I am misleading the audience for ratings is a prick thing to say. You don't know me. All right. I've made my name and I've made my business based on honest journalism. I realize you may be number 26 worldwide, but you've never done real journalism at the level I have. So that's how our first meeting went. That's just good fun.

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It's just, that's why it was so egregious for Biden to allow them in in the first place. We're just never going to get all these people, even Homan's out this week saying, look, we've gotten a bunch of them, but it's not going as quickly as I'd like it to. And it's very frustrating for all of us. Here's one other thing. Let me ask you about this one, Shamath.

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I love the guys over at National Review, and they sometimes offer a sober reality to, you know, the joy that I hear more in the MAGA circles. You know, these are conservative Republicans who are not, they're not anti-Trump, but they're not like super pro-Trumpy. They had a great discussion on their editor's podcast this week about what's actually going to happen to the budget, right?

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Trump's going to make these cutbacks, even if Elon's allowed to go wild, which as you know, they're filing lawsuits every day to try to stop the cuts that he and Trump are doing. But let's just say they withdraw all the lawfare and all the cuts go forward, USAID, Department of Education, and on. Their point was, we're still going to run a deficit.

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The budget's still going to go up this year versus where it was last year. It just won't be up as much as it otherwise would have been. We're not going to touch entitlement spending. And I got to be honest, you listen and you're like, to Jason's point, slowly and then all of a sudden, we're still going to be on that course.

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And then he was gracious enough to have me at the All In Summit along with Chamath and, of course, David Sachs, who was the other person in that, if you're watching on YouTube, you'll see who's part of that show as well. And now he's working for the Trump administration. David is.

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He's not only trying to find cuts, but he's having some fun with tariffs too, which could be another source of income. I mean, Trump announcing yesterday, no one's tariffing us without us tariffing them. I'm using it as a verb, right? Like you slap 10% tariffs on any goods you sell in the United States, 100% guaranteed. That's what you'll get on your goods coming in here.

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And that just makes sense to me. I mean, like that, I think as a matter of fairness, most people are like, yeah. And even Trump admitted yesterday, there may be some short-term pain. He said there may not be. They're actually, but he's like, trust me, long-term, this is going to work out well for us. How do you guys view the tariff threat and action?

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But in any event, those guys all had me out to the All In Summit last September, which was really fun and enlightening. The guests were amazing. I really enjoyed myself. And Jason got a lot of guff for the exchange I'm about to show you, but I saw it very differently. I did not think he deserved all the guff he got because he... He knew I was a lawyer.

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We have Trump is he wants to make the Trump tax cuts permanent, which I think most Americans will support. Even Joe Biden was saying he would keep the Trump tax cuts in place for those making under four hundred thousand dollars a year. But he wanted to revoke them for those making over, which honestly is just silly because those are the business owners.

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Those are the employers who, you know, I'm an employer. I'm a small business owner. If you tax me more, I'm probably going to get rid of somebody. I'm not just going to pay it to the federal government. Somebody's probably going to go. So that's how it works. But so he's going to make the tax cuts permanent. He's also wanting other tax cuts, as you guys know, no taxes on tips.

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And, you know, I had a conversation with Senate Majority Leader John Thune earlier this week. I think that's a priority for them to get that no taxes on tips thing. And don't forget on the Trump tax cuts, Trump is calling for a return to the SALT deduction that those of us have in, you

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which they didn't give us the first time when they cut the taxes because they were like, you're not going to get that too. That's too big a tax cut for you. But then the truth is my taxes went up. My accountant was like, you're actually doing better without these tax cuts, but it's fine. Anyway, my point is there's...

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It sounds good to say tax cuts, and I like it too, but there's a question about whether we can afford all these tax cuts. And no one, no one will talk about Medicare or Social Security, Jason, especially Trump. He's not dumb politically. He knows that's toxic. That's like, let me play in this nuclear waste dump. So fun.

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He knew that I knew what I was talking about. I think he was being a generous host. I think he was trying to let me show some of my knowledge on this case. And people were like, he's an idiot. People on the right didn't like him. But I think they misunderstood that he was actually being generous to me. Here's the exchange that literally went everywhere.

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Is there any world in which the Chinese, who have been working so steadily over the past 20 years to build up their military, actually do that? He would deserve the Nobel Peace Prize if he were to make that happen.

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This is why on this on this front, this is not exactly the same thing, but it's consistent with the new approach that this administration is taking. We have, of course, a new defense secretary and it's not a big deal, but he is every morning out there working out with troops. When he was back stateside, he was doing it. Now he's over in Poland. He's doing it.

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He posted this video today of him running with troops over in Poland saying, you know, fitness readiness starts in the beginning of the day. There's no, you know, do we have a shot? We'll run it. It's just pictures. OK, it's just pictures. By the way, he needs pants. It's too cold in Poland to run with just running in shorts.

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He's running in shorts. It's snowy and it's Poland. I like that event. I like it, too. I have to say, you know, like Lloyd Austin, with all due respect, was. overweight, was in the hospital unaccounted for for like a week. We didn't know what was wrong with him. It's great to see a young, robust defense chief and just a juxtaposition in the messaging now.

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He's saying that we've had a record sign up, an increase in troop numbers in December in anticipation of Trump taking office and now in January once Trump has. And he points to specifically, among other things, The difference in recruiting efforts, like look at the ad that they just put out for special forces under the Trump D.O.D. Strong people are harder to kill. That seems right.

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Just so you have the full picture, stand by. Here's what they were running under Joe Biden.

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I mean, as men, you must see the difference in messaging and why the numbers are going up.

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Before I give you the floor on it, Shamath, here's the thing about Elon. He could have gotten the deregulation that he wants for his industries just by all the donations and the blood, sweat, and treasure he gave to Trump prior to November 5th. Trump owed him enough that he would have probably tried to help Elon roll back some of the red tape he once rolled back.

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without Elon doing a single thing post 10-5. Everything he's doing now is because he genuinely wants reform. He wants the government to work differently for all of us, not just for him. Go ahead, Chamath.

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We're in a battle with them on many fronts, including AI, though not so much the Europeans. One of the things that happened this week was J.D. Vance went over to Europe and at a conference that was dedicated to discussing slowing the AI march, he thumbed the middle finger essentially and said, we're not slowing anything. We're the United States of America.

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We're leaders on this and we intend to stay leaders on this. And then he made some other news, which I want to get to with you, but I just want to make one point on the drones. these things can be very threatening potentially used by us and potentially used against us. And there was a report out earlier this week on how, um, the Iranian threat against Trump's life was more serious than we knew.

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But you guys may remember Jason Calacanis of the All In podcast and I have a kind of special relationship. It goes all the way back to his first and only appearance on our show. It was about almost what, three years ago, June of 2022, episode 337, when I ended up calling him a prick. That's not nice. But our relationship has really evolved. I actually really like him. And we...

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And, um, it was to the point where they were deploying decoy Trump planes when not air force one, but Trump force one, as they used to call his private plane when he was campaigning to where like, they just have staff on the one plane. And some of these staff would later say like, Whoa! We were on the decoy plane trying to say, hey, Iran, Trump's here, when he wasn't really there. Uncool.

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But they were reporting that. Forgive me, I'm trying to remember who broke this. It was a very good report. But it was talking about... It was Axios. Okay, and it was talking about how at one point... there was a drone hovering over Trump's vehicle as he was traveling and the security secret service opened up the sunroof and shot it, shot it down right then and there.

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But that's like the, if these drones are effective, it's, it's incredible that you say this.

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Okay. All right, and then I went on to list why, and that went to a lot of places on the internet. But here's the interesting thing. My impression is, and we're going to ask him in two seconds, that Jason has gone full-on MAGA. I mean, he is ready to move in with Steve Bannon. They seem very tight. No, he just seems very pro-Trump. And it's been an evolution.

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It's so funny. All I can think of is my husband's book, The Mysterious Case of Rudolf Diesel, which is about the Elon Musk of the early 20th century, Rudolf Diesel, who was German-born, spent his childhood in France, and was this genius who designed the diesel engine. It was his engine, and diesel should be spelled with a capital D to this day.

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When you go to the gas station, it's diesel, capital D, fuel for a diesel engine after this guy. But he was a peacenik. He was definitely a peacenik and did not want this engine to be used in war machines. His idea, his goal was for it to be used on small farms who could put just vegetable oil in it, and it can run off vegetable oil.

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Willie Nelson powered his diesel-powered, I don't know, van or camper with corn oil. And that's really what diesel thought it would be, but it wound up becoming so important to war vehicles, to war boats in particular, both in England and in Germany and then around the world. And there's really not a massive boat on the water that's not powered by diesel now.

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You know, it's been an evolution for me, too. It's been an evolution for a lot of people. But that's perfect because his bestie, David Sachs, is now the crypto czar in the Trump administration. So joining me today for the very first time, well, second time since all of that, is Jason. And then also for the first time is Jason's co-host on the hit tech podcast, All In, Chamath Palihapitiya.

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And Doug has talked many times about what would diesel think if he could see how his engine wound up getting used as the main machine of war. And I think he... believes diesel would be against it because he never had the evolution, the final stage of the evolution you just talked about, Chamath.

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A lot of these inventors start off feeling more altruistic and they think their product's going to go a different way, but then it takes a while for you to evolve to realizing even if in a machine of war, it can be an instrument of peace in a way.

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I got to give the floor to J. Cal when we come back from this quick break. But before we go, we found the picture. We report, you decide.

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First time here. Chamath is one of those evil billionaires the Democrats are always warning us about. But he's a self-made billionaire, having started his career out many years ago at Burger King, which we are told is a good thing that you were supposed to celebrate unless you actually do parlay it into true billionaireship, in which case you're bad.

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That's donewithdebt.com. You mentioned in the first hour a passing reference to this show and your show and my status and yours as well as an independent broadcaster. And that brought something up that I've been meaning to mention this whole week, and now is as good a time as any. So over the weekend, it was announced that

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Fox news had acquired, has acquired the company called red seat ventures, which sells our ads. They sell the ads for the Megan Kelly show, uh, red seat corporation. And Fox acquired this company because they sell ads, not just for the Megan Kelly show, but for the Tucker Carlson show for bill O'Reilly show for now Pierce Morgan, who's, um, you know, got a YouTube show and so on. And

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And that's one of the challenges when you get into the space as an independent, you kind of have to partner with some sort of somebody who's got relationships with the ad companies. It's very, very difficult to do it yourself. You can't just start calling up Jenny sell and saying, Hey, will you, will you advertise on the MK show?

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So red seat and this guy who runs it named Chris Balfe, they've been great partners to us. And I love Chris and he's been absolutely wonderful and his whole team to work with. So they help us out. They sell our ads. He's been an advisor to me in my professional life as well.

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So the media decides to take this story and announce, or at least spin it, such that I have been acquired by Fox News, that the Megyn Kelly show is now owned by Fox, that the Tucker Carlson show is now owned by Fox. They spun it as... We're going home. There was one article from Reuters.

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The deal brings O'Reilly, Kelly, and Carlson back into the Murdoch fold through Red Seat Ventures, though Red Seat Ventures will operate independently within Fox's 2B Media Group. No, it doesn't. It does not bring any of us back into the Murdoch fold. Nothing against the Murdochs, nothing against Fox. Very happy for Chris and Red Seat and for Fox.

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But this has almost nothing to do with us other than, I guess, Fox and Tubi are now eventually going to, well, they own the company or most of it. that's selling our ads, that's it. But it was so annoying, you guys, because I know you've worked for every ounce of that success and for every notch you've moved up on the podcast ranking. And maybe it would have been helpful.

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I never offered it and I never wanted it, but probably would have been helpful to have the backing of a company like Vox News pushing me, but I didn't have it and you didn't have it. We earned all those ranks ourselves. For once in my professional life, Fox News had nothing to do with one single viewer I have. Right.

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Yeah. It was annoying to see this spun everywhere as some sort of an acquisition or a sellout by yours truly or Tucker, who I'm sure would never be selling to Fox. Um, but it makes Fox look good to make it look like they acquired us, which we, they didn't and whatever. So it was kind of annoying.

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Anyway, Chris Balfe went on the semaphore podcast with Ben Smith, formerly of the New York times and Buzzfeed. And they talked about this. And here's a bit of the exchange that just hit today.

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It's pretty funny, right? So anyway, just to set the record clear, what he said is exactly right. Red Seat's not a platform for us. SiriusXM is a platform. Apple, Spotify, YouTube, that's a platform. Red Seat's a partner that sells our ads and gives us some information on the podcasting industry and Balfe. personally has been a great friend.

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I've actually become a big fan of gin, to tell you the truth. I'm a big fan of gin these days.

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Okay, well this is it. Or like just gin and club soda with a lemon. I actually really like that. I call it the gin haven.

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But I love what you guys just said because that's what was so annoying to me. Like Yahoo, their headline, Yahoo Finance, was... That that they've acquired that I've gone home, that they've acquired my home. Like Red Seat, with all due respect, is not my home. My my home is my show, my editorial. And I put my home out to a various degree of platforms. Right. Like to to you.

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I didn't want like if Fox News, if I did sell out to Fox News, if Fox News owned the Megyn Kelly show, it would change what they were getting at there. And with Ben Smith and Chris Balfe was exactly right. Fox does control everybody who works there. Trust me, I know. That's why it's so amazing to be in the independent lane. Right. It's like you guys say that you can say whatever the hell you want.

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Over time, you realize who you can trust and who you cannot. And for, you know, for me, it's like, that's, it's fine. You know, I'm happy for Chris. I'm happy for Fox, but it, it matters who controls this show. And if some were suggesting like they have an ownership, I, I own 100% of the Megyn Kelly show. I don't have investors. I have nobody. I have me. And, and,

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And that's the other thing, like they're not wrong. When I worked at Fox, you couldn't say any, if you said anything like to the press, Irina Briganti, that snake would be all over you. They'd be dropping hip pieces on you to try to control you. And I'm delighted to have nothing to do with this person.

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She, I don't know what, I don't think Fox has any delusions that they would control me because they sell ads for me in this new context. But it's delightful to be able to not worry about people like that. You know, and you guys know, maybe you don't know because I know you had lean years. We talked about how Chamath worked at Burger King when he was a kid.

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But, you know, after Fox and NBC, both of those organizations tried to destroy me. 100% tried to destroy me. And you have those nights in your bed where you're kind of like sad and your career is blown up and you're like, Jesus Christ. And bit by bit, then you build it back. And the last thing you want is for somebody to come in and be like, Oh, she sold out. She sold out to one of them.

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Like in the end, she bent the knee and went back. That's not at all what happened. I had nothing to do with this. It wasn't my decision. And when I tweeted that out again, not trying to antagonize Fox, I see why they're smart to have made this move, just setting the record straight. But that's when I tweeted it out, you guys won't be surprised to learn everybody is

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Every one of the people who follows me on Twitter was like, we got your back. We get it. We knew it. Don't worry. It's just a brand new world.

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It's funny because I was speaking with a very smart person about YouTube algorithms, and this person doesn't work for YouTube. But I was saying, well, how can the Megyn Kelly show go from 3.5 million subscribers to 20 million subscribers? And it later became clear to me that this person was of the left. And of course his answer was...

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You have to be more moderate, put on more Democrats, reach across the aisle. I'm like, okay, how can we do it without me changing my business model? Because I must be honest, and I don't think the secret to my next level success is to populate the show with a bunch of leftists. I do have a lot of Democrats on the show, but the answer is not to change anything about my content.

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I'm feeling really good about our relationship, though. I feel like my relationship with J. Cal has come full circle. Look at us now.

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That makes a lot of sense. I mean, it's been interesting the past couple of years when Facebook de-emphasized news, you know, it used to be such an important platform for people who are in news really kind of before we all came into this space. It was very important. Like for Ben, I know when he was building his show, it was extremely important to Facebook.

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And then they just decided in the wake of all their woke-ism and their annoying politics that they were going to stop platforming news. And people kind of lost their news feed. A lot of people who use Facebook for news lost their news feed. And for us, we just started using Facebook to promote our more cultural content. We do a lot of cultural segments on this show.

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And that wound up working out fine for us because – That works very well on Facebook. Facebook likes those segments. They'll recirculate them a lot. It's alternative content in the way you just described.

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I talk to Brian Friedman all the time and I predict it's not going to end well for Blake Lively. I don't think I think this will not go to trial. It's been set for trial March of 26. There's no way they're going to let this. She's going to let this go to trial because she really will turn into Amber Heard, who had to leave the United States after that trial against Johnny.

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She truly, I know this gets overused now, but she did FAFO. Like she thought she could blame all of her negative press on him. He's a weakling. She's Blake Lively with Ryan Reynolds, her dragon. Yeah. And she decided, I can't take one month worth of negative press, which she got, you know, generated, she says, by him. He says, by you and your badness.

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And she's so thin-skinned, you know, like, look what happens to you. Look what happened to poor J. Kelly even on this show. People get picked on when they're in the public eye, right? Like, look at, just Google Megyn Kelly. You'll see terrible articles about me. It's part of being in the public eye. She's just used to being Hollywood's golden girl.

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And she had such thin skin that after having a couple negative things happen to her for a month, she had to blame him. She decided to blame him. And boy, did she open up a hornet's nest and learn, be careful what you wish for because now you've got the fight you asked for and you're not winning it.

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That's how I first heard Chamath's name early on. You were early to say, I just I'm sorry, but I don't care. Like it's, you know, you below my line said it very plainly. But frankly, most of the country landed where you were then. Like it's not that we don't care at all about what happened to the Ukrainian people, but it's like we have our own problems.

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We can't keep throwing good money after bad on that conflict. And don't you think that's what Trump's really been saying these past couple of days? And Hegseth has been saying like, look, it's got to end. Of course, Russia is going to have territory. Ukraine's not getting back its entire borders. And obviously, Ukraine's not joining NATO.

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Pete Hegseth got a hard time from the press for actually saying that, but we all know that. Did he really give up the farm when we all know that, Chamath?

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Yep. The great thing about Trump- Trump said yesterday he had direct talks with Putin that he thinks he's ready to make a deal. He did it without Zelensky. Zelensky, people said, how could you do it without Zelensky? He said, I got to find out first whether Putin wants to make a deal. Now I know he does want to make a deal. And then I talked to Zelensky, who also wants to make a deal.

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He doesn't think that, Zelensky doesn't think that Putin genuinely wants to make a deal, but Trump's like, we're going to make a deal. All right. And no one's going to walk away thrilled, but we're not going to keep funding this thing. And Hegseth said we're definitely not going to have American boots on the ground over there maintaining security. That's going to have to be Europe.

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And the Europeans are like, why weren't we on the call? It's like, there's only one person who can get this done, and he happens to be in the White House Oval. And he'll get it done. The Europeans will provide the security for it. He secured all that money. that Ukraine took from us with earth materials that we need that are in Ukraine. It's the one thing they can give to us.

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I think we have a lot of good news. I mean, as good as we could ask for when it comes to wrapping up that conflict, because it's got to end at this point.

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That's a good transition. Smart people saying smart things to J.D. Vance back in Munich. Oh, yeah. With a truth bomb in front of the Europeans who were reportedly just stunned in their seats, uncomfortable shuffling when it comes to free speech, which is I mean, Europe has just been absolutely abysmal on and immigration. Yeah. which take what I said about free speech times 10.

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So the sitting vice president of the United States goes over there. These are allies. Yes. But man, he did not mince words. Here's a little of, uh, JD Vance in Munich yesterday.

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Wait, wait, before I get to you, Chamath, who is a loser in Trump 2.1? One point or two point one in one point. Oh, sorry.

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Elon was battling this when it comes to free speech and X in Europe. And the free speech battle, I mean, it's a reminder of why we left Europe. England. Why we, as Americans said, you know, the most important thing to us, amendment number one is free speech and they don't have it anymore. It's all but dead in Europe. There was a great tablet magazine piece. I actually just pulled it in advance of.

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today. And it's written by a guy named Paul de Quenoy. And he goes on about what just happened in Germany with this compact magazine and how there's a rule in Germany. There's a law that says that they can shut you down. They can shut your speech down if they think that it is inconsistent with their constitutional order, the constitutional order of their country. And

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And so they went in, they think this is a, quote, far right magazine because it supports this ADL party, sorry, AFD party that is very anti-illegal immigration. And they went in, they seized, they have like 40,000 subscribers. They seized the offices. They basically took over control of the whole thing and shut it down from publishing.

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The thought of that happening in the United States, I mean, it's... There would be a full revolt, I'd like to think. So he's speaking to the right audience there. They do need to hear it. And I'll just give you one more soundbite before I give it back to you. You mentioned their insane green energy commitment at the expense of their own people. J.D.

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I think they're starting to feel it, though, in the same way we reached our boiling point and reelected Trump. You know, the woman, J.D. mentioned a different man who was arrested for praying outside of an abortion clinic. I remember this video. It's a woman. Her name was Isabel Vaughn Spruce. She was silently praying, guys, in her head. She's sitting there silently praying.

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They come over and say, what are you praying in your head? What are you doing? She's like, I'm silently praying in my head outside of an abortion clinic. You have to go. They arrested her. That's what it's come to across the pond in, you know, a distant relative now of the United States.

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I don't think we can really even understand this, although we're getting a little dangerously close in incident after incident in throwing the book at people who are praying outside of abortion clinics here to the point where Trump had to pardon some of them. You know, it's not nearly as bad as it is overseas, but I think you're right.

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What do you think, J. Cal, that they're reaching their breaking point, the citizenry? has had enough of this.

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I think we've put our differences in the past, though we'll find out today, including spending some time together at the All In Summit last September. I'll just give you a little memory lane before we bring him on along with his co-host Chamath, because you may remember this funny exchange. It got a lot of attention. Here's the longer one when he was on the show three years ago.

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You're too scared to hear the words. I agree with you on Conway and Kanye. I think he's, or yay. He's now in the middle of another mental health episode. I think that's what this bizarre latest behavior is. It is sad. I I've said along, I don't understand. People should stop platforming him like this.

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Like, you know, like he, during his last meltdown, he was on news nation and it was like the, the, Don't try to monetize his mental break, which is very clear. He's in the midst of, we all know he's got this issue.

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Kim Kardashian says he's bipolar and she was married to him for, what, 10 years? Like, I take her at a word on that. And I know he's denied it. I should say that. But it does seem he goes through these bouts of very bizarre behavior that don't necessarily match up with how he is the rest of the time. I mean, maybe it is just him.

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I just if there's any doubt about the mental wellness of the person, I wouldn't put him on. I just I would be too worried about exploiting a weak moment, you know, like a low moment for the person mentally. In the same way that you can't, I don't know if you guys have ever had somebody that you know, a friend or family who's actually dealing with mental illness. You can't get through to them.

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You can't say you're having a mental episode. Please stop saying that, you know, they're not reachable. So it's kind of like the whole thing is pointless other than for just like a voyeurism sake. I'm Megyn Kelly, host of The Megyn Kelly Show on Sirius XM.

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There's another podcast with the very annoying Kara Swisher and her partner, Scott Galloway. I know. That decided it would be a great idea to arrest the Doge workers under Elon. I mean, Scott Galloway openly called for them to be arrested.

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And Elon responded on X saying, Swisher and Galloway are threatening talented young software engineers who gave up high compensation for death threats in order to help the American people. Shame on them, Swisher and Galloway. Cruel, mean, and deceitful human beings that they are. Then those two went back on their podcast and said the following in Sat 10.

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You explain it to me. That's Kara Swisher. She says she's the tech journalist. She's the one who covers your industry better than anyone.

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But she's making a cottage industry out of being this alleged Elon expert because she's interviewed him. I mean, so has Don Lemon doesn't make him an Elon expert.

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They're calling JD 48, which I like and fully support. I got to run. I'm up against the clock. You guys, what a pleasure. Thanks so much for coming on together. This was fun.

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Oh, thank you. You too. Absolutely. You're booked. Consider yourselves booked. See you next year.

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Yeah, and that has majority support amongst the American people. I mean, I'll say this, Stephen Miller has been so demonized by the left, and he is absolutely brilliant. The last thing you can get away with is calling that guy a loser. He's helped get Trump elected twice, and he's behind not just the immigration policy, but he was in part behind the brilliant EO on gender and biological sex.

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Stephen Miller is extremely smart, extremely cunning, and those gifts are being unleashed on our behalf right now. So, okay. Sorry to make you wait so long.

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So that's really what's happening. We have some of that, actually. Just to make your point, I think this is a bit of his evolution that we've captured in the following soundbite. Let's take a listen to sound three.

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What I'm trying to dispute is the attempt to now say we've got to get guns because of all the mass shootings. The mass shootings are what justify our newfound push on, quote, gun control. And what it is to me is a dodge on the rising crime rates, which have been a drag on the Democratic ticket and are going to take them down come the midterm elections in October. It's gaslighting.

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Can I ask you, Jason, what you say, purple, not red. So what, what caused, what, what was the red that was mixed in with your former blue that made you purple now? Like what specifically was it that made you start migrating a bit?

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He was a very talented lawyer who went to Harvard and University of Michigan at law school and worked in the Reagan administration. She's being careful with her words. She says, while I support Pete through this process, what I think he deserves is a hearing. That's just a buying time phrase. That's not a promise of support. What I am hearing, Hugh, is that she doesn't like him.

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Yeah. I mean, I said to the audience, Don't marry Pete, but I would take him as my sec def. So it's basically my words. I have a question for you.

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Yeah, I mean, I spent a lot of time with Pete Hegseth, and all I ever saw was a professional, smart, earnest, great guy who cared deeply about the military. It's all he wanted to talk about, ever.

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I mean, even when you're making casual conversation, that's what he wanted to talk about, the military, and what he could do to address their concerns and how their needs weren't being met, truly, even in casual conversation. And I've said this to my audience before, we did have conversations many times at Fox News about who...

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whose drinking was getting out of control or who was potentially taking drugs. And some we knew were, and those people were definitely on the radar. We all knew he was never one of the names. Pete was on the radar for loving the military and veterans. And yes, for being a little Randy, I guess we can say when it came to the women, whatever that's between him and his wife.

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My former makeup artist at Fox, who is there all the time, has been texting me about him nonstop. She's in his camp. She knows. You're exactly right. They know where all the bodies are buried.

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And one posted on Instagram in support of him as well. So, I mean, he's good there. I wanted to pick up on what you said about the political reporter, Josh Gerstein. So he gives you a hard time. You responded to the ProPublica attempted attack on Pete by saying, this story is and remains that a bureaucrat at West Point misled you and you did not print that. That's not journalism.

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Then Politico inserts itself into your spat with ProPublica. Josh Gerstein, the reporter, saying- Hugh, are you really saying we should do a story every time what a government spokesperson tells us turns out not to be right? I mean, it would take up perhaps half of my time. And then you responded. But do you want to walk us through why a response to that? They're saying, look, they checked it out.

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You don't do that. You don't do that where you only have an hour to respond unless there's there's a reason for it. You know, like we've got to get this story. It's breaking. It's big. And national security, whatever. There are reasons why you might have to if it came to you late. You didn't have time to go to the source, whatever. But this is not one of them.

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Some evergreen piece on whether Pete did or did not get into West Point. They were just trying to sandbag the guy. You know, one of the possibilities and you mentioned it. on why they wouldn't even do just a one paragraph or on it is somebody at West Point was the initial source. Somebody, I mean, you think of West Point as being, you know, pro their military, whatever.

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in the afternoon. Afternoon, I highly recommend. I don't know if I recommend being in New Jersey between dusk and 11 p.m. And by the way, now it's not just New Jersey. Reports today that these things, we'll call them drones because we don't know, but for lack of a better word, have now been seen in New York and over LaGuardia or near LaGuardia and down in Maryland.

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That doesn't mean they're pro Pete or pro Trump. And if somebody at West Point, you know, if the, if the call was incoming to pro publica and, and, you know, in an attempted smear that they were about to print and didn't because Pete had the records that West Point claimed it didn't have, that'd be a reason why you wouldn't say it.

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Yeah, right. Exactly right. All right. So now there are, we took covered activists, journalists, but we did not yet cover the sad, sad journalists down near, but not in Mar-a-Lago. There's a piece today, yesterday in New York magazine. The headline is the press is down and shut out in Palm beach. Steve Chung is not sympathetic.

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Steve Chung, of course, Trump's long term spokesperson, who's now his director of comms incoming at the White House. OK, so they start by saying the quoting. Good morning from West Palm Beach. I'm your transition pooler today.

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This is The New York Times is Michael Scherer, who wrote this on December 9th to a group of fellow reporters who have teamed up to take turns covering the post-election news out of Mar-a-Lago. but he doesn't have much to report. The reason is, he writes, I've reached out to the transition about today's schedule and have not heard back.

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Scheer was part of an unofficial press pool set up by the White House Correspondents Association to cover, you know, Trump's team down there. But the press is being kept at a safe distance. They point out this is very unlike 2016 when Trump let the press stand at the base of Trump Tower and interview all these candidates who are coming in to kiss the ring on their way in and way out.

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But this time, no, he's not really interested in it. And Steve Chung has said, hey, I didn't authorize your weird little transition coverage. You didn't ask us. We would have worked with you. You didn't, so pound sand. But they lament in this piece, the incoming press secretary, Caroline Leavitt and Steve Chung, sometimes don't get back to the shutout, frustrated reporters at all, Hugh.

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And they go on to say that these folks, okay, notwithstanding the fact that They don't know what's happening. They're not sure what's going on with the White House press room seating chart. And they can't get straight answers on whether they're going to be where they want to be and were. That they are, quote, soldiering on.

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Listen to this from the governor of Maryland who just dropped this tweet. Governor Larry Hogan. Last night, beginning around 9.45 p.m., I personally witnessed and videoed what appeared to be dozens of large drones in the sky above my residence in Davidsonville, Maryland, 25 miles from our nation's capital. I observed the activity for approximately 45 minutes.

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And that they're doing this notwithstanding the fact that hotel rooms on the island of Palm Beach are hard to come by and they are expensive. So most journalists are exiled. About a half an hour's drive in...

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Yeah, right. So here's the end of the piece. It's my favorite part. Not only have they been banished to West Palm. Oh, God. It's like being bumped from the double wide to the single in the trailers. They say with the West Palm Hilton now officially sold out, some reporters have been forced to retreat to the court. Courtyard by Marriott out by the airport, Hugh Hewitt.

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You're the lowest of the low. And that's how you're supposed to live. And it's one of the very healthy ways we make you generally hate authority. It's just in this country, you're supposed to hate authority, whether they're red or blue. And you people don't.

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I would call back. I would call back and I would say, now I've seen a record proving that you misled me. So what is your explanation for misleading me? And I'd love to hear what they say. And depending on what they said, I'd go from there.

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But I would definitely be very interested in the fact that I'd been misled by West Point, which absolutely knows whether Pete Hexeth applied and not only applied, but got in. You're going to tell me that record keeping is that bad? Pete's, what, 44? He was in college 25 years ago. I'm trying to do the math there. It's not that long.

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Like many who have observed these drones, I do not know if this increasing activity over our skies is a threat to public safety or national security. But the public's growing increasingly concerned and frustrated with a complete lack of transparency and the dismissive attitude of the feds. The government has the ability to track these...

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Yeah. Well, here's like, I wonder because the other piece of it is when it comes to West Point, there could be national security implications. I would imagine the records there, they would keep them better than your average university would because who's trying to get in and why? Whose kid is trying to get in and why?

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I would imagine those records are considered rather important by like the Pentagon because And so I do wonder whether they are as capable of hapless error. Probably they are, probably, as Princeton or where I went, Syracuse. Maybe not. Anyway, uh, maybe somebody will get to the bottom of it. Okay.

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While we're on the subject of journalism, something interesting happened over at CNN and it's turned into a controversy and I'd love to get your thoughts on it. Clarissa Ward is considered a star reporter over at CNN. She's been there many years. She was at Fox for a short time. And, um,

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She is doing reporting on Syria and what's happened in the wake of Bashar al-Assad being chased out of the country to Russia and this new Islamist group taking over, you know, like the kinder, gentler al-Qaeda. And she was patrolling through the streets as in her reportorial role and

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And says that she came upon a Bashar al-Assad prison facility with one of these new, you know, quote unquote, reformed al-Qaeda types with her and that they went into this prison cell and, oh, no. there's a prisoner who is being held by Bashar al-Assad. And here's my interview with him.

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We got him out, we gave him some water and he had a bite of food and we stuck a mic in his face and this is extraordinary. And now in the wake of this interview, which got all sorts of plaudits all over the internet, people, oh my God, she's amazing, what she did, blah, blah, blah. Now some people are raising questions about whether She was misled.

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I think that's the most charitable thing I've seen on there. Some have suggested she may have been part of the misleading. I doubt that. But I don't know. I don't know what's happening here. And I'm not even sure there is a story, but I'm going to bring it to you because it's getting some steam.

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I'll show you. The Mediaite was one of the places that did a rather lengthy piece. They watch our business and reporters and raise questions about reports like this. There's a guy named Charlie Nash who raised some questions about the piece, and I'm going to show it to you.

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from their point of origin, but has mounted a negligent response. People are rightfully clamoring for answers, but aren't getting any. We are being told that neither the White House, the military, the FBI, or Homeland Security have any idea what they are, where they're coming from, or who has launched or is controlling them, and that they pose no threat. That response is entirely unacceptable.

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And then there's a filmmaker named Hassan Akkad who has been detained twice in Syria, and he has got some doubts about this video. All right, let me show you the first clip. This is part one. When they find this guy, under a blanket. It's high drama. You can see Clarissa's a little dramatic herself and I will say seems to insert herself into the story. Watch this.

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Okay, so here's what people are pointing out. He's pretty clean for a guy who's been in a prison cell for how many months? Three plus months. Three months. Three months without food or water for four days. What we see on that video is no waste whatsoever. at all in the prison cell and no- No facilities.

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Right. And we see a man who's still under the blanket, even though he's just heard somebody shot shoot off the alleged lock on his cell. Still under there. OK, maybe he's hiding. We see Clarissa Ward, who speaks, according to her, Arabic, only speaking in English in Syria. OK, don't know why that happened. And this guy, Hassan Akkad, says, says the following, I was detained twice in Syria.

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I think this is staged. CNN should investigate. Happy to be proven wrong. Individuals are never locked in communal cells. Cells look too clean. No discarded clothes, bags of bread, bottles of water, other blankets. And he has too much energy for someone who had no water for five days. This is what the cells in Syrian prisons typically look like, Hugh. We pulled this from one that was farther north.

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I join with a growing bipartisan chorus of leaders demanding that the feds immediately address this issue. The American people deserve answers and action now. This is crazy. We were told yesterday yesterday by John Kirby at the White House. Nothing to see here. We can't even confirm that there really have been drones.

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I mean, you can barely see the ground. There's so much debris and trash. I don't know. But here's what I believe. I doubt Clarissa Ward, who's a respected reporter, would stage this whole thing. But I do think there's a possibility she and the other media celebrating this moment are not being skeptical enough about it being staged for her.

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Here's the second clip where they're now outside of the prison and she's interviewing him, which, you know, I think like some people like I don't get it. Why? Why aren't you getting him to a hospital? But journalists are often heartless like that. That's she's not alone in that approach. Most of us would you know, we want the story and then he can go to prison. But here are the hospital.

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And this is leading now to senior government officials to step out and say, sorry, sir, we are seeing them.

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And folks pointing out online, how clean the man looks, the jacket, the pants, the fingernails, like it's just, and does he have the right energy level for somebody who hasn't had food or water in almost five days? Um,

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I don't know, but I think that there should be an investigation by CNN just to make sure they have not been used by an organization trying to look like heroes, notwithstanding their own controversial behaviors.

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No. And there's one other weird thing, potentially, it depends on your opinion, where in her exchange with Jake Tapper, who was asking her about this, she offers one additional detail. Take a listen to Sot 8.

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You wouldn't want to call your family first thing out of captivity after three, four months. And you you're so shocked you can't make. OK, it's possible. Right. But these all these are just like that's what led to the media piece.

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But it works for them to look like they are the kinder, gentler, that they, oh my God, Bashar al-Assad is even worse than you knew. This poor man, he's been under there. And we're talking about it, that it went everywhere. It went everywhere. So much coverage about how, you know, what an evil man this Bashar al-Assad is and how the new captors, well, not captors, but the new-

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I mean, you'd have to kick those tires as a journalist, you know, again, being used. That's the biggest thing you have to worry about in this kind of situation is being used, being turned into journalistic propaganda. And perhaps Clarissa Ward saw that coming from a mile away and made sure that that wasn't happening. But I would like to hear more.

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I don't, I'm not sure right now based on what I've seen. Okay. The controversy over the, The CEO murder, the United CEO, Brian Thompson, continues with people. Sorry, Brian Thompson, where people are continuing to try to justify this. We have been meaning to get to some of these stories, but we didn't quite get there. AOC weighs in. She does the this is not to justify violence, but bit, but bit.

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And moreover, in the guy's alleged manifesto, he says, oh, they're probably people better qualified than I am to explain exactly what they're doing that's so bad. He doesn't sound like somebody who had lived this firsthand and had a personal great. Not that that would justify any of this.

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But to your point, we don't know what this is about and what the evidence seems to be suggesting is you had a once perfectly normal young adult one minute and within the past three to six months. a switch flipped, which is totally consistent with some sort of psychotic break, whether induced by a schizophrenic problem or by, you know, drugs that he was taking.

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We don't know, but show me the evidence. And by the way, even if it is a claims issue too soon, too soon to engage with this guy's gripes and ideas.

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Well, let's look at what happened with the manifesto with the trans killer in, um, is it Virginia? We're trying to think of the city. Um, yeah, where they kept it from us.

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There we go. Nashville. Thank you. Where they try to keep it from us and it had to be leaked. I mean, I, part of it has been leaked online. I don't know if we've seen the whole thing, but it's like, of course there's, there are different rules depending on the person's, you know, status and the, the, the Kimmel having his producers, lusty texts, uh,

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After this guy, him reading those on the air, it's just the latest scourge on ABC News. And how can they share a calling card with this guy? It's just absolutely vile. Hugh, that's the state of our media today. I'm thrilled that you'll be coming on in the afternoon now to talk about it more. And I love the show and listening to your opinion. Thanks for being here.

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Thank you so much, my friend. Um, I want to tell you while we have just one minute that we are going to be dropping a special episode. I think it comes out tomorrow morning and we're going to be talking about, uh, like some special fun Christmas things and Christmas gifts. And, um, I think you guys are going to really enjoy that. Enjoy that. So look for that in your feeds. And in the

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So joining me now is a prominent and outspoken cardiologist and creator of the documentary First Do No Pharm, Dr. Asim Malhotra. Dr. Malhotra's documentary sheds light on the pervasive influence of big pharma on healthcare, the truth about cholesterol and statins, and much, much more. Dr. Asim, welcome to the show.

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I thought the documentary was fascinating and disturbing. I remember, and I think this is one of the things you guys, that led you to make this documentary, a few years ago, the line on statins had become, the question in today's day and age is not so much why are you on a statin, but why aren't you on a statin? That they were being recommended for

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perfectly healthy people over age 50 who might get heart disease or clogged arteries at some point as almost like a preventative measure. And while the whole film is definitely not just about statins, that's where it starts. And it's very interesting. So let me kick it off by playing this soundbite of, um, a guy who was your patient, right? Tony Royal, um, who did take a statin.

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He was in a position of having had a heart attack, so his case was more severe. But the question of why not take one was experienced by him. The answer, I should say, firsthand. Here's Tony, slot 30.

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Yes. I don't get this. There's nothing to see their response by the feds. It makes me think it is the feds. But if it is the feds, why wouldn't they pause now that it's become such a controversy? They're still doing it. So I don't know what's going on, but it's very strange how certain the feds seem to be saying they are that it's nothing.

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If high cholesterol, high LDLs doesn't cause a heart attack and you potentially can see that number rise without freaking out, then what does cause a heart attack?

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Whereas honesty sounds more like what Larry Hogan said, you know, what these New Jersey lawmakers are saying, like, we don't know what this is and we need to know. Here's the headline from NBC yesterday. Now, key House and Senate lawmakers are demanding that top federal law enforcement officials immediately brief them on these mysterious drone sightings.

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How would you see... So I think the way a lot of people see heart disease is you go to your cardiologist and maybe they give you an echocardiogram stress test combo where they can see your heart and how it handles stress. And they'll see whether you have a thickening of the walls of your arteries.

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That's the gold standard test, I think, other than getting that, I guess, calcium score read with injectable dye, which is more invasive. But... So if you see fatty buildup on the walls of your arteries, then you have a mystery to solve, right? And today, I think the doctor would say, if you had it, don't eat so much red meat. Don't eat fried food. Exercise more, right?

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And here is Kirby right at the White House yesterday. He said that Homeland Security, the FBI and state and local law enforcement have not been able to corroborate any of the reported visual sightings of the drones.

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I want to get to the causes of why we've been so misled for sure. That's basically what first do no farm is about. And it's shocking. Our FKJ is in there. Our audience will recognize a lot of the faces. Callie means is in there. Dr. J about a char is in there. Great, great film. In fact, before we go any further, how can they see it?

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He said upon reviewing images of the sightings, law enforcement officials have concluded, quote, these are actually manned aircraft that are being operated lawfully and said there have been no confirmed drone sightings in restricted airspace.

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Okay, good. So let's, let's remember that, uh, to, to see it. But before we get to that, you mentioned in passing just their Mediterranean diet, what all you added a couple of phrases on there. Can you talk about eating?

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One question I have for you is, let's say I have listeners out there and viewers who are 60 years old and they're like, I'm constantly inflamed. I've lived 60 years of inflamed. I've eaten all the processed foods, but I'm inspired. Now I'm going to start tomorrow with a Mediterranean diet that's low-carb. can they undo 60 years of damage? Or is it like kind of a fait accompli at this point?

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White House National Security Council telling NBC News, we have no evidence at this time that these reported sightings pose a national security or public safety threat or have a foreign nexus. But now you've got New Jersey Senators Cory Booker and Andy Kim, New York Senators Chuck Schumer and Kirsten Gillibrand.

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Wow. And is your body then... at zero? Or are you closer to death than somebody who's been living well for their 60 years?

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That's great. Just to give people a place to get started as we go into the holidays. It's a good place to kick it off. All right, so let's talk about causation. Because when you first came out, you mentioned you caused quite a stir. But the industry wanted to cancel you at almost every turn. And you published a paper in the BMI. What was it called? The BMJ?

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Yep. And they tried to get your paper pulled. Yes. your film has an interview with a woman who was running it at the time who didn't know whether she was on your side or not, who was open-minded to pulling it if you had misstated facts and misled people.

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And she's pretty forthright about how once, you know, they wanted to see data and so on, but they ended up not pulling it and saying to the people who are criticizing you, Why don't you write a rebuttal if you feel differently? And they didn't really want to do that.

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So this all kind of gets to, there's an absence of honest data from the people who are telling us things like statins are perfectly safe with a very, very good side effect profile. It's not just the statin drug makers, it's drug makers for the most part.

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who just, they hide information even from the people who are charged with reviewing their drugs and telling the rest of us whether their drugs are safe.

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sending a letter to the Homeland Security Secretary, who's also a Democrat, as you know, and the FBI director and the FAA head, all saying to all these guys, we demand a briefing. And some say we could get it as late as or as early as this afternoon, Hugh. This is bizarre. I don't remember seeing anything like this.

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They, like anybody who's associated with medicine, forget the magazine world, they're on a different page, wants you to lose weight. Any real doctor is against obesity, which is probably the number one or a huge risk factor for so many diseases, including diabetes, which just doesn't lead anyplace good. And what they have said on this show and elsewhere is, Eat better, move more, right?

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Like that's really what we're looking to do and throw out that food pyramid and stop, you know, eating six to 10 grains a day and so on. What we've done over in America and now increasingly in other parts of the world is take Ozempic. And I get the pushback to Ozempic as that's not the answer. You know, eat better and exercise more.

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But this film, like some other pieces and books and films, has suggested it's worse than that. Like Ozempic actually is in the category of violating the do no harm rule. Like it actually may be more dangerous than it is beneficial. And I want to ask you about that because the whole thing is reducing inflammation and And this drug helps one eat less and therefore potentially reduce inflammation.

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It was recently cited in a medical article saying it may reduce your risk for Alzheimer's because of its reduction in risk for inflammation for the people who take it.

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Stomach to stone. I have not heard about that side effect from these drugs. What's that?

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Pretty horrific. Why aren't people dropping dead? I mean, that seems like it would kill you.

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It's not pleasant. Yeah. Okay, so back to the problem of the nondisclosure of information and of big pharma controlling the messaging around their drugs. I did not realize that sort of the birth of these so-called scientific magazines involved big pharma, and that was kind of all part of the plan. The way I understand it from Do No Farm, your film, is of all people, Ghislaine Maxwell's father

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was in on the ground floor of forging this unholy alliance. And we have a little clip from the movie, Do No Farm, about this. I'd love to watch it, then have you explain what happened here. Sot 31.

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The father of Jeffrey Epstein's longtime partner, Ghislaine Maxwell. It says in the headline of the article underlying the quote was the man who bought and sold science. Go ahead.

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Same. I feel exactly the same. And on this one, we actually do need, we need some answers. I mean, I don't know what it is. Here is what I hope it isn't. Watch.

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Joining me now, longtime radio host, Hugh Hewitt, host of the Hugh Hewitt Show, friend And one of our must-listen to commentators in America, his show is going to be moving to afternoon drive time on the East Coast in January. Hugh, great to see you. Are you ready to challenge yourself and dive deeper into the ideas that shape America?

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I was going to say, we know that big pharma has infiltrated organizations like the FDA, which has a revolving door to big pharma. And therefore, the people who approve the drugs that we take and we give our children and get from our doctors are not, they're compromised. They're trying to please the Pfizer's of the world.

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And I'm trying to think of the company that produced OxyContin with the Sackler family. Purdue Pharma.

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Yeah, Purdue Pharma, thank you. They're trying to please Purdue Pharma because that's how they get paid when they leave government service. But this is something in addition. It's also these respected medical journals that are the ones that put out... I mean, I've received articles like that from my own doctor when I say, hey, what about this? Hey, is this something I should worry about?

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And he'll send me an article from one of these places and... You're giving us a whole new way of looking at these with a big asterisk on these articles. You do feature, as I mentioned, RFKJ in the film. Again, it's at nofarm, spelled P-H-A-R-M, film.com, nofarmfilm.com, where he is talking.

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I believe this is when he was running for president as opposed to now tapped for HHS secretary on what he thinks should happen to these medical journals. Here it is at 32.

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Just as a process question here, Doc, I think one of the reasons I'm excited about RFKJ possibly coming in as our HHS chief is I think he's all over these issues. I think he's been living a life as a litigator in this sphere where he's been onto a lot of this stuff long before the rest of the medical and even legal community. Do you think I'm right?

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So what should somebody trust if they're going to Google a drug that their doctor has recommended to them? I mean, can we trust the NIH website? Because you get a lot of papers over there, but Jay Bhattacharya is not running NIH yet. I know Dr. Google is very dangerous, just typing in G. What can they trust?

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We're rooting against that, I think. I think that's worse than Iran or the Russians. Am I wrong? Or China?

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We've got the one and we've got nofarmfilm.com. We're not done discussing what's in this gem, which you really should watch, but we're going to take a quick break and more with Dr. Asim right after this. Did you know that American homeowners nationwide have over $32 trillion in equity and cyber criminals are targeting it? They're not dumb. With a growing scam, the FBI calls house stealing.

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No, I don't get it. Let's just spend one second speculating on what it could be, because when I first heard about it, I thought, okay, it's probably like some smart MIT college guys who are super effective with drone technology and are having some fun. Maybe they're from New Jersey, and so they targeted New Jersey just to see what might happen. But this has been going on

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So can we talk about the COVID vaccine? Because I know that you believe your father may have died prematurely as a result of one of the boosters. You've been very outspoken about the vaccines.

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I know you got blowback when you suggested that these vaccines by Pfizer and Moderna were a likely contributory factor in all unexpected cardiac arrests, heart attacks, strokes, cardiac arrhythmias, and heart failures since 2021.

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which a lot of us believe, but every time we try to say there's a lot of, seems to be a lot of increased in cardiac deaths, we're told we're idiots and that it's just all the same numbers and it definitely had absolutely nothing to do with the vax.

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since November 18th, right? So we're like going on a month now and it's spreading. And even though the feds are saying to all of us, nothing's there, there's nothing confirmed. I mean, I know some of the people in New Jersey who say they've seen them. A friend sent me a video who I've known for two decades of what she and her husband saw not long ago. But anyway...

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Like the feds would know the feds would have investigated this no matter what they're telling us. So why would they be lying to us? What what could the explanation be that would cause the government to lie?

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We're up against a time constraint here, but that does lead me to ask, is there anything those of us who have been vaccinated by the Pfizer or Moderna thing can do?

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Okay. All right. Well, I mean, yeah, millions of us are in it together. Good to know. Again, do nofarmfilm.com, nofarmfilm.com. Very interesting stuff, Dr. Asim. I understand. I have it on good authority that you are under serious consideration to also join the Trump administration in some important role, and I'm rooting for you. I hope it happens.

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That would be delightful. Thank you to you for all of your good work. Really appreciate it. Wow. And thanks to all of you for joining us today. We're back tomorrow with a bonus episode on the bombshell news about the Duke lacrosse case and favorite Christmas movies. There's a combo for you. See you then. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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Wait, wasn't Einstein there? He was there. I think that's a good theory. We're going to find out. I don't think this mystery will remain a mystery. And I don't think John Kirby's going to get away for another day or two of saying, don't believe your lying eyes. There were no drones. That's a bunch of BS.

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OK, so speaking of don't believe your lion eyes, Pete Hexeth did get into West Point. That's the lead of our next story. And this is relevant, even though he went to Princeton. Speaking of Princeton, he he did get West Point decided in the end, after touring both and considering what his life would look like, to go to Princeton.

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But ProPublica, this far-left group, activist group that's tried to take down Justice Alito, Justice Thomas with smears, is now trying to take down Pete Hegseth by getting ready to report that he... was lying, that he did not get into West Point. So they called West Point to say, did Pete Hegseth get into West Point? And West Point allegedly told them not once but twice, no, he didn't get in here.

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He didn't apply here. We have no record of Pete Hegseth ever applying to West Point. So then they go to Pete Hegseth's lawyer, Tim Parlatori, and they say, we're gonna print that he lied. you have one hour to respond, which is ridiculous. As if this is like national security and they had to rush to print with it, Hugh, right? They had 60 minutes and he had to get back to him, baloney.

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So instead what happened was Pete Hegseth went on Twitter, on X, and posted his acceptance letter. He didn't deal with ProPublica. He dealt with us and said, take a look at this. Here's my acceptance letter from West Point. And now ProPublica is trying to defend itself by saying, hello, this is how journalism works. When you posted that, we stood down from the story. So calm down, Pete Hegseth.

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Right. Be merciless on it. And then and then let's see those Republicans look at Trump and all of his supporters and say, we reject him, that we're going to we're going to stop him based on whatever comes out of that hearing. I mean, we'll see whether it's new evidence when they actually produce somebody on the record to accuse Pete of the things that have been alleged only anonymously thus far.

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I look forward to seeing some former Fox News employee get up there and say, oh, he was drunk. Okay, sure. You know what? I'll testify at the hearings. I spent 10 years working with Pete. He was never drunk, and I saw him in the prime time when you would be. Anyway, so that's Pete.

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I will say I think their hesitancy is based on Joni Ernst because I think we all think we're going to lose Murkowski, Collins, and maybe McConnell. Maybe not. I don't know. Maybe. But he doesn't like Trump at all. It's vice versa. So she's the one. And... I know she's saying things that are closer to a maybe, but you know as well as I do, Stu, why do I keep calling you Stu?

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The beautiful hair. The order reading, quote, twice in the last 12 years, those administrations promulgated multi-thousand word regulations defining the word showerhead. This latest order, part of a broader effort to increase consumer choices previously limited by Green New Deal style policies. Showerheads, paper straws, incandescent light bulbs, all restored to their previous glory by Trump 2.0.

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and that'll do it for your am update i'm megan kelly join me back here for the megan kelly show live on sirius xm triumph channel 111 at noon east on youtube.com slash megan kelly and on all podcast platforms

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Wrongfully detained Russian-American dual citizen Ksenia Karolina returning to the U.S. after spending more than a year in a Siberian penal colony. The 33-year-old ballerina exchanged for dual Russian-German citizen Arthur Petrov. He was held in the U.S. on criminal charges relating to illegal exporting. The swap conducted in Abu Dhabi.

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CIA Director John Ratcliffe and Special Envoy Steve Witkoff leading negotiations on behalf of the U.S. Russian authorities detaining Ms. Karolina in January 2024 upon entry into Russia, where she was visiting family. A search of her phone revealing a 2022 donation of $51 to a U.S.-based nonprofit providing aid to children and elderly people displaced by the war in Ukraine.

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President Trump securing the release of another American citizen wrongfully detained in Russia. HHS Secretary Kennedy says his department will determine the cause of autism by September.

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After a 16-hour interrogation, authorities releasing Ms. Karolina with a warning not to leave the country. Weeks later, Russian authorities charging her with treason. On Monday, the boyfriend of Ms. Karolina, champion boxer Chris Van Yerden, describing the ridiculous nature of the allegations in an exclusive interview on The Megyn Kelly Show.

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly and it's Friday, April 11th, 2025. This is your AM Update.

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Mr. Van Yerden, who fought tirelessly for his girlfriend's release, saying it was extremely difficult to find a lawyer to even take Ms. Carolina's case, many too afraid of going against the state. Ms. Carolina's family eventually setting on a lawyer advising a guilty plea. Mr. Van Yerden describing the legal process to us.

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Mr. Van Yerden spoke to the terrible conditions of the prison camp.

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The media says egg prices are skyrocketing, but just weeks ago they were reporting the opposite. We cracked the case. Should we keep daylight savings time? The U.S. Senate takes that up. And President Trump signs an order to make showering great again. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update. Thank you so much for having me.

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On Monday, Mr. Van Heerden describing the maddeningly slow pace of the Biden State Department in even declaring that his girlfriend had been wrongfully detained. saying if not for a phone call from Hollywood director Peter Berg, it would not have happened. Mr. Van Yerden also crediting UFC president Dana White for bringing the situation to President Trump's attention.

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Following news of the release, Mr. Van Yerden saying in a statement, quote, I am overjoyed to hear that the love of my life, Ksenia Karolina, is on her way home. I cannot wait to hold her. Our dog Boots is also eagerly awaiting her return. This is the second prisoner exchange with Russia since President Trump returned to office. Teacher Mark Fogel released in February. The U.S.

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tracking at least six more wrongfully detained Americans in Russia. On Thursday, HHS Secretary RFKJ announcing a major White House initiative in President Trump's cabinet meeting.

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The CDC maintains there is no link between vaccines and autism. RFKJ has long advocated for increasing vaccine safety standards and testing. Under Secretary Kennedy, the HHS department focusing on treating the causes of the top health conditions plaguing Americans. HHS also conducting a comprehensive review of more than 10,000 chemicals added to food products in recent decades.

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Chemicals banned in Europe. The March Consumer Price Index report delivering a win for the Trump administration. Inflation cooling to 2.4%, better than expected. Consumer prices falling by 0.1%, the first monthly decline since March of 2020. The falling prices attributed to declining oil prices translating to lower energy costs, a day one Trump White House priority.

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Media outlets quick to downplay the news. From the New York Times, quote, economists say the latest data is only a temporary reprieve as tariffs could stoke higher inflation. Reuters, quote, the benign inflation reading is unlikely to be sustained after President Donald Trump doubled down on tariffs. The media also picking up on another data point from the report, egg prices.

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The truth is, while the retail price of eggs went up in March, wholesale egg prices are down. And typically there is a bit of a lag in those decreases making their way to retail stores. The wholesale price of a dozen eggs was $8.15 in February, $6.85 in March, and $3.19 today. On Wednesday, President Trump recognizing Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins.

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Ms. Rollins acknowledging the still high retail prices, but saying Easter is the Super Bowl of eggs. And once we are past Easter, the prices will come down. Coming up, Attorney General Pam Bondi seeking to dismiss charges against an alleged MS-13 ringleader arrested just two weeks ago. What's the strategy? And President Trump signs an order to make showering great again.

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CBS News and The Washington Post reporting sources familiar with the proceedings say dropping the charges will fast track that removal process. 24-year-old Henry Josue Villatoro Santos arrested two weeks ago by a Virginia Homeland Security terrorism task force. A.G. Bondi on the morning of the arrest, vowing a swift removal.

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The government requesting in a Wednesday court filing to dismiss the charges without prejudice, meaning they can be refiled at a later date. The feds originally charging Mr. Santos with possession of a firearm by a person in the country illegally. Authorities capturing the suspect on March 28th in his mother's Virginia home, recovering a cache of weapons.

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four firearms, ammunition, and two silencers. Also seized a letter from a jail outlining inmate clicks. Mr. Santos, born in El Salvador, entered the country illegally in 2014, around 13 or 14 years old. Apprehended by authorities at the border, Mr. Santos then released to his mother, already in Virginia, and the DOJ alleging shortly thereafter, recruited by MS-13.

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Mr. Santos' lawyers requesting a two-week delay, arguing once the charges are officially dismissed, their client will immediately be deported to an El Salvadoran prison. On Wednesday, the Senate Committee on Commerce, Science and Transportation holding a hearing evaluating whether the U.S. should, quote, lock the clocks once and for all.

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And if so, whether to stick to standard time with early sunrises like we have in the fall and winter or daylight savings time with late sunsets like we have in the spring and summer. Republican Senator from Texas Ted Cruz and Democrat Senator from Delaware Lisa Blunt Rochester opening the session.

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The U.S. ping-ponging on daylight savings time since its inception in 1918. Clock standards changing in 1942, 1966, 1974, and most recently in 2007. The House and Senate introducing, then tabling, various bills in recent years. Witnesses presenting diametrically opposed arguments.

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The first witness representing the National Golf Course Owners Association, the second from the American Academy of Sleep Medicine.

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The committee hearing meant to help advance debate on the Senate's Sunshine Protection Act, which would make daylight savings time, longer summer daylight, permanent. We'll see. President Trump on Wednesday signing an executive order to make showers great again. The new orders scrapping Biden and Obama-era environmental regulations targeting water flow standards.

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President Trump commenting on the new order from the Oval.

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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and happy Friday. Well, the Democrats finally got what they wanted, or so they think. Donald Trump is now officially a, quote, convicted felon. He's also our next president.

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The Supreme Court should have stepped in here to say this is not going to happen. We just issued a ruling on presidential immunity. We just issued a ruling saying that you can't even use evidence of a president's official conduct against him in a criminal trial, which was definitely done in this case.

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And we are staying this proceeding until we are able to handle the appeal or until post-presidency, until post-presidency, in which case it can follow the normal course.

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I'm worried about her. She's a little squishy, and it's concerning. I'll tell you, just like as a female who leans right, I'm kind of sick of the female conservatives who get appointed to the Supreme Court, Sandra Day, O'Connor, now Amy Coney Barrett, being too squishy. Why can't we just get this Judge Aileen Cannon down in Florida? Get a female Alito on there. Get somebody with some...

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you know, rhetorical balls who will hold as fiercely to conservative principles in the judiciary as the left wing does, as Elena Kagan does to the liberal principles. Why are the women so squishy when they get up there on the right?

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OK, let's talk about that. You raise an interesting point, as you always do, Viva. You know, is it more than just the label? Do you think the next move, because here we are, what, January 10th, we got 10 days until the inauguration. Do you think they actually do try yet another maneuver of...

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insurrectionist, or I don't know what they're going to say, but you know, they've, they've done a lot of legal gymnastics to try to get him and stop him from taking the oath.

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Hmm. Because I mean, they don't control the house and they're not going to control the house. They didn't before and they don't in the new Congress. And so they can't impeach him. They don't have the votes to impeach him. Um, and they certainly don't now they don't control the Senate either.

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So they're not going to be able to, even in some weird world in which the house lost its mind and impeach Trump, they could never get a conviction. So I don't, I don't know that the move is political in the body of Congress or if there's some legal maneuver in a court, they still think they could

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Can we talk about, on this front, they are trying to get, the Jack Smith report of just how bad Trump was. He owes this report to Joe Biden or to Merrick Garland. And Trump has so far successfully stopped that report from getting released. He's like, these cases have been dismissed, so just stop. But there is some saber rattling that he's going to submit it and we're going...

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That now you're back in the insurrection lane. Yep. And, you know, a possible legal challenge on. Oh, no, no, no. Just because the case got thrown out doesn't mean he's not an insurrectionist who is not capable of taking office.

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Unless they're going to use that Jack Smith report, if they get their hands on it, to again say he's an insurrectionist and therefore shouldn't be allowed to take the oath of office, then it's utterly pointless. Then we're back in the land of, what are you doing? You lost. He won the presidency.

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Hmm. Let's go back to just for one more minute, this, this warning by this judge, because we're going to hear a lot more about this. Sorry by this prosecutor that there's the, he's mad that Trump is remorseless. I mean, it's just absurd. He's really, he's talking about him. I heard Trey Gowdy saying this, who's a criminal prosecutor now at Fox news anchor saying he was talking about him.

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Like he's like, they're weighing the death penalty. He's shown no remorse for his crimes.

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Who again? Who are those people? Then going on to he's spread disdain for our institutions and the rule of law. He's caused enduring damage to public perception of the criminal justice system. I mean the gall, Viva, the gall of these guys to put that on Trump.

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Yeah, it's not only, of course, this prosecution against him, but the civil case brought by Letitia James for, you know, now cost Trump half a billion dollars, which is currently being laughed out of the appellate courts. I mean, that, I think when all is said and done, Absolutely none of these will stand. Fannie Willis got bounced.

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Jack Smith was forced to dismiss both of his federal cases against Trump. The New York case is what it is. We've discussed that for the last half hour. And then there's the Tish James civil case against him. The E. Jean Carroll thing, unfortunately, is not going anywhere. That one's going to stand, I think. But the Tish James one is going away.

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I can't wait to see what he does. A word before I let you go. As you say, Juan Merchant properly. I'm reminded that you're from Canada. Oh, gee. Not now. French Canada. Yeah. So, yeah. So you're you know, you've got a connection up there. And what do you make of Justin Trudeau finally waving the white flag and admitting everyone hates him and he has to step down?

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And that's what it was all about. The nerve of this guy to say it's Donald Trump who caused damage to the institution, to the court, to the justice system with his reaction to this case. The absolute nerve. Talk about putting the cart before the horse. You, sir, are to blame for all of that. You, Donald Trump, called it out for the joke, the absolute insulting joke of a proceeding that it was.

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You know, it's funny because sometimes when you see these people in the news go, whether it's like a news anchor being fired or a leader falling, you know, normally you have like a mixed emotion where you think, goodbye, but I'm kind of going to miss criticizing them. You know, this is how I felt when Stelter got fired from CNN.

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Well, I didn't feel bad for him, but I felt bad for me because I wasn't going to be having his editorial to rip on. But then they brought him back, so it was great. But anyway, with Trudeau, I don't feel like that. I'm like, get rid of him. He's such a pernicious, terrible force. Even our friends up north who voted for him, even those people do not deserve him.

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Well, if not, it could come 51st, as our latest state says President Trump.

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That's the only way, because otherwise we're just, it's just like adding, you know, one of these left wing groups that they get like making DC a state so that they can have two more senators on the left. We don't need that. We got enough problems.

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Okay, joining me up next, Jesse Kelly. Speaking of, you know, Viva says he's communist, what they're doing. Jesse wrote a whole book about how the left has become full communist. That's what he calls them, for a reason. We're with him next. Here's a shocking truth about New Year's resolutions, whether you want to lose weight, improve your energy, or beat that embarrassing post-meal bloat?

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Have you since been made aware or remembered of other instances? And if so, how many?

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Unbelievable. Back here, we have our own absurd leaders. As you know, just take a look at California right now. The L.A. fires continue to rage on and the failure of Mayor Karen Bass. is becoming more and more obvious by the day. She's refusing to take any accountability for the devastation. I mean, none.

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You caused the lack of trust in an institution that had been mostly previously respected. Even President Biden, when he pardoned his son Hunter, called out how he doesn't trust the justice system. So please spare me.

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Plus, President Trump chatting it up and laughing with former President Obama at President Carter's funeral yesterday. Did you see this tape? It went everywhere. It's very, very telling. Hitler's so funny. He's hilarious. Hitler's just a barrel of laughs. We're going to get to it all with my next guest. Jesse Kelly is here.

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He's host of The Jesse Kelly Show and also I'm Right, which you can find at youtube.com slash jessekellydc. Jesse, welcome back. Great to have you.

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It's great to be here, Megan. Thank you for that barrel of laughs watching Justin Trudeau. Just, man, our friends up north, congratulations. You finally get to be rid of that turd.

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No, you know what's funny, Megan? It's funny and it's also sad. As you mentioned when you were laughing about it, you mentioned, and that's the guy who was running Canada. And then you pointed to our own leaders and LA and things like that. I think, at least for me, I think we do this thing that's very, very natural and that we look at these absurd people

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And we assume, yeah, they're ridiculous, they're dumb, they're absurd, they're commies, they're all these things. But we assume if the beep hits the fan that at least surely there are competent people around them. There are people who will figure it out. If it gets bad, if there's a wildfire, if there's a this, if there is that, surely they have someone they can turn to.

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Yeah, that guy's like a caricature, but surely there's someone. But the truth is that's not true. That's not true at all. The worst, dumbest, most despicable people in the world now run every aspect of Western society. And it's frightening when you think about it. So we don't think about it. We lie to ourselves and tell ourselves that there are competent people there. There aren't. There aren't.

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Mm-hmm. The situation in LA and the leadership vacuum is becoming more and more apparent every day. So you have Gavin Newsom on camera when asked, hey, what about the fact that the fire hydrants didn't have any water in them? Says, oh, you know, the local leaders, they're going to comment on that. The local leaders respond to that. The local leaders were in Ghana.

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Or we now find out the deputy mayor was on leave for allegedly calling in a fake bomb threat. So those are the local leaders, Jesse. Nowhere to be found. And you know what was happening at the fire department where now we know that the top three leaders in charge look more like a cabal of... Smith attendees, then tough grizzled firemen ready to put out fires.

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I mean, every single, I think everybody in the LA FD management is a lesbian, um, who is bragging about her lesbianism and really, really proud of her short haircut and short stature and inability to rescue men from burning buildings.

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This whole thing was rushed to sentencing by a judge who was determined to be able to call Trump a convicted felon for that reason only, because it's been about politics from the start. These... Losers wrapping themselves in sanctimony. Alvin Bragg was out there. The will of the jury must be heard, must be done. Who am I to interfere with the jury process? The judge too.

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Yeah. And not even hot lesbians either, which is super disappointing. No, not the lipstick. This is what. Yes. This is what happens under Democrat rule. And that's kind of what I was alluding to earlier. There are real consequences in places like California, which I actually love. I know it's fashionable to dump on California, but it's just so beautiful. And I have so many friends.

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I love it so much. It's paradise, and it breaks my heart what has happened to it. I don't enjoy watching beauty turn ugly. I don't enjoy watching it at all. But this is the consequence of voting Democrat. And legions of people in California, when they go out to cocktail parties, they get with friends. It's just what you do. Of course you vote Democrat. Yeah, we voted Democrat.

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We voted for this Democrat. We voted for that Democrat. And it's just kind of always taught or thought of as this throwaway line. Yes, we vote blue. Ha ha ha. We're so Democrat. Well, if you do that for long enough, you will have these weapons grade morons take positions of power up and up and up and up and up the chain. And soon the entire chain is hot, stinky garbage.

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And you have one of the great cities in the United States of America put to the torch and no one seems to be able to stop it. These are consequences that are downstream of the behavior of voters. It's really the point I keep trying to make over and over and over again. The consequences of neglecting your elections, of just just sitting it out. I'm not interested. I vote Democrat. Ha ha ha.

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Look how live I am. Well, the consequences of that are you wake up one morning and Los Angeles looks like something out of a Mad Max film. That's what you get.

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Yeah, totally. On the subject of the fire chief, it's getting worse by the minute. So you've got the fire chief who is in the first line of her bio touting her gayness and the fact that she's a woman. Okay, no one cares. And then you've got her second in command who is named, okay, so the first lady is Christina Crowley. She's the first LGBTQ fire chief, salary $439,000 plus.

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Then her second in command is Christina Kepner. This person, by the way, then the person who's I think third in command or high up, is the first black. Okay, so let me just get it straight. Christina Crowley, first LGBTQ fire chief. Then under her is Christina Kepner, first lesbian assistant chief. Then under her is Christine Larson. They're all Christina Christina. She's also a lesbian.

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So you should probably include that term in your celebratory smashes of the football on the left. I mean, great. And by the way, one of the reasons he is going to be our next president is because of all this nonsensical lawfare. So go ahead. I think it's the ultimate Pyrrhic victory.

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She's also a lesbian. Everyone's a lesbian. I don't know why. And she's also black, and she's in charge of equity within the FD. I don't know why. And she also makes more than the assistant chief. She makes almost $400,000, $399,000. So they're making $439,000, $265,000, $399,000. And what we get is... Christina, Christina, Christina. Lesbian, lesbian, lesbian. Why, Jesse? You tell me why.

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Well, because the object of this is an assault, a never ending relentless assault on white men, white Christian men that has been institutionalized throughout the United States of America. And I don't know why it's controversial to talk about this at all. Corporate America, the education system, I mean, the government itself under Joe Biden has been very honest about this thing.

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You brought up the L.A. Fire Department. I'm sure you've played the videos on your show. I've been out of town, but I'm sure you've played them. I've seen them on social media of these people running ad campaigns bragging about this is how many women we're going to hire. This is how many gays we're going to hire. This is what would you do things like that?

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What you're announcing is we are taking a certain demographic and we are we're just simply cutting them out of the equation. And beyond the rampant lesbianism, where apparently to find the leadership of the L.A. Fire Department, they went to the local softball team. Apparently, they focused on hiring women as well as firefighters. Now, I am as pro-woman as anybody underneath the sun, but...

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Why are we focusing on women? This is a physical, brutal job that involves wearing a lot of weight, carrying a lot of weight, doing physical things. You see those dudes out there in L.A. hauling people out, hauling equipment. It's a brutally physical job. So why in the world would you focus on the person who's physically weaker? Well, the only reason you would do that is physically.

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You're a psychopathic cultural Marxist interested in burning everything down. And you really don't care if Los Angeles burns as long as you get to hire you and all your lesbian friends for $499,000 a year. It's pathetic. And there are consequences to it. I keep coming back to this. We like to point at this stuff and we laugh. Megan, you laugh. I laugh. It's hysterical. Why do we need this?

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Why do we need that? We laugh. But downstream of that, people die. That's the thing. There are real, genuine consequences to setting aside merit and focusing on box checking and checking this, but she checked that box. We got enough gays. We got enough women. We laugh and we even call it woke. I've been guilty of that before.

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I actually have grown to hate that word because it really, it presents like, oh, they're just so goofy. They're kind of woke. It's not that. It's freaking evil. It's discriminatory, it's evil, and people die because of it.

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We're just like public service servants who have to do what the jury said. Otherwise, it'd be a real insult. Give me a break. You two orchestrated this from the beginning. You've been working hand in hand to make sure you could just get this label on him. You wanted it so much earlier. I know, sweethearts. It was so important.

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It's like the NBA having a DEI program where they're prioritizing short people. We don't have enough short people. Okay, without asking, why don't we have that many short people in the NBA, right? Why don't we have more women in the fire department? There's a really good reason. Most of them cannot pass the test unless you lower the standards. Strapping 60 pound of gear on your back and

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and then climbing up a ladder and then going into a house. And on top of all that, rescuing a grown man takes a lot of strength that most women, 99%, do not have. Or it's like a police department having a DEI program that prioritizes people in wheelchairs. There is a reason why it's not a good fit.

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It doesn't mean you're discriminatory against or can't stand or hate people in wheelchairs or short people. It means it's not a good fit for this particular job.

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And while women, probably great, equal, if not better in some cases, than men at being an EMS, right, can do all the life-saving procedures that happen in a hospital or once you get the body out of the house, 100%, of course, let's be honest, of course they can do that.

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But why do we have to pretend in the name of equity, whatever, that women are equal to men when it comes to actually doing the job of a firefighter, whatever? All this is academic because we don't know whether it played any role. All we know is that the LAFD was very, very focused on DEI and hiring women and not so focused on the fire hydrants. But listen, I want to show you one thing.

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So the second woman, Christina Crowley, the first LGBTQ... Sorry, there's Kristen Crowley, the chief, then Christina Kepner, the first lesbian assistant chief. It's just ridiculous. And this video of hers going viral where she was asked about the job and these potential problems in rescuing people who are much larger than your average woman.

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I don't know about whether they're average, whether they're bigger than Christina Kepner. Watch.

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Only about 5% of working firefighters are women. This is what they're calling attention to. By the way, correction, that was one of the other Christines. That was Christine Larson, the first black lesbian equity bureau chief. She was basically saying, Jesse, if somebody like you finds himself in a fire, F off, you're to blame.

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Well, the religious zealots, as we talked about many times, Megan, and religious zealots will kill people and let people die on behalf of their religion. People in America have a hard time understanding that the far left radical types like that are. I mean, how many people would have to die for them to come around to your side? All of them. All of them.

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They are serving a cause they view as higher than putting out fires at a fire department or Los Angeles. And if people have to die because of it, it's no sweat off their back. And in fact, they put themselves on video bragging about it. It's really quite something.

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It's amazing. You got the one who's like, I'm a woman and I'm gay. You're hired. And then the assistant, I'm a woman and I'm gay. Well, you're hired. Then you got this third person coming in saying, I'm a woman and I'm gay and I'm black. And that person will probably be the next chief if they continue along the way they've been going. Jesse Kelly stays with me. Don't go away.

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You desperately wanted it earlier so that maybe it could affect the election. But you failed. You got your conviction. No one gave a shit. Even the left wing media recognized that this case was a joke. So you failed utterly in doing anything other than creating sympathy for Donald Trump and making yourselves look like idiots. And then rather than just saying like, let's walk it back.

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He's hosted the Jesse Kelly show. Check it out at youtube.com. Don't go away. Jesse, the L.A. fire chief, the top Kristen female lesbian, was on CBS News with Nora O'Donnell trying to defend this disaster that we're looking at out in California. And she was asked about the fact that the mayor cut $17 million from their budget, the fire department's budget.

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And the fire chief herself had been jumping up and down about that earlier, saying this is going to cost essential services. Now that the shit has hit the fan, she tried to engage in revisionism like, huh, who, what? No. And to her credit, Nora O'Donnell followed up. And here's what happened.

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You know, this is part of what bothers me about a lot of things, Megan, but we can make this about LA because that's what we're talking about here. The leaders in our society now, I mean, so many of them, you see this all throughout the military, whatnot. Where's the sense of pride and sense of duty? Why do none of these people ever resign? Why do none of these people ever own anything?

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I'm talking about mayors. I'm talking about fire chiefs. I'm talking about generals. I'm talking about CEOs. Where is the sense of honor? If you look back at what World War II is actually a great example of this. How many commanders, generals and admirals resigned because they were sad about a battle or men they had lost?

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We had generals and admirals, not that I'm encouraging this, killing themselves, committing suicide. They got so many letters. They were so sad about troops who died under their command. They felt such a heart that they just killed themselves. They couldn't live with the shame of it.

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We fought a 20 year GWAT war in Afghanistan and Iraq, and nobody can name for me a single general or admiral who resigned in disgrace. Nobody. Not one of them. It's just not even thought of anymore. And you see this in the wake of, honestly, are we calling this a natural disaster, Megan? I think that's probably not true to call it that.

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Well, let's just go with that for now, even though it's not true. This is the greatest natural disaster as far as property damage goes in the history of the United States of America. It's comparable to the Chicago fire, I believe. And no one has resigned. And in fact, nobody has even shown contrition. not mayors, not the fire chief. No one's even gone on the news and said, well, look, I own this.

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My heart is broken for my city. This is going to be on me. I'm going to get this cleaned up as best I can. And then I'm going to resign. The people deserve better. And in fact, the fact that I just said this, everyone's probably laughing right now because the thought of that is so ridiculous. But that's what leadership is. And that's what we used to have.

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But immediately you just saw that hag there on television. She's turtling up. Got to protect Democrats. Got to protect the brand. Can't everyone just tries to protect the system now instead of having any duty and honor. It drives me crazy.

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We've had enough embarrassment. You rushed to try to get this declaration as though it was going to be meaningful. And it means nothing other than you've additionally irritated the next president. Let's see how that works out for you. I look forward to watching it, frankly. And it probably created more sympathy. for many people in looking at Trump, seeing how unfair this is.

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I'm sorry, but you just listen to this woman. And I'm all for women in leadership positions. I used to know a Secret Service agent when I lived in Virginia and she lived in my same development. She was like six foot two. She was strong. She was a badass. And I would hire that woman to protect President Trump. to work at the fire department, to do any number of things that men can do.

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She's probably in the 0.05 percentage point when it comes to women and their physical abilities. I'm not saying it can never happen, but as a rule, it doesn't happen. As a rule, women are too weak for these particular jobs and should not have the standards lowered so that they can do them. this woman doesn't look strong. This woman, to be honest, I'm not trying to be mean, but she looks portly.

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She doesn't look in shape at all. Neither does that other woman who we showed, the black lesbian Christine. She looks obese. These are firefighters. They're supposed to be in great shape. And that woman, the one who was like, well, that's your husband. If I have to carry your husband out of a fire, he's done something wrong. Hello, that's your job. What are you saying? The fact that

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Like, everybody who finds themselves sitting in a burning house is not to blame for the fire. What a weird dodge. So you've got these out-of-shape, poorly-looking... Short, in some cases, the other woman looked tall. Lesbians who touted their sexuality running LAFD, who won't take responsibility.

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Then you've got what is clearly a DEI higher mayor, because you have so many Californians saying, I voted for her because I couldn't vote for the white guy over the black woman, Karen Bass. And here's what she was saying yesterday. No, they were like, oh, there's no way. I'm not voting for a white guy over a black woman.

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And so here she is after she finally got back from Ghana, where she did nothing. Why does the mayor of LA have to be in Ghana for the inauguration of an African prime minister? So she gets, okay, she gets grilled, yes, by CBS reporter John Vigliotti. I think he's local. And here's what she says. Listen to South 13.

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The answer is no, madam. And by the way, Jesse, so that's another, that's like, we'll create it like a commission at some point. And many months down the line, the commission will tell us whether any errors were made, you know, passive voice. She won't speak to it.

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And by the way, just to put the lie to what she's saying, Jesse, her head of waterworks, Janice Quinones, was already out there at least trying to say something. why the fire hydrants didn't have water. It wasn't a satisfactory explanation, but at least she was speaking to it.

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So the notion that we must pretend one cannot engage in thought about how the problems that are stopping the fires from getting put out are happening, like you can't engage in any explanation of that right now while it's happening is bullshit. Her own administration is doing it. She just won't do it.

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You know, you got CNN's top legal analyst saying this whole thing is unconstitutional. These charges are probably unconstitutional. Okay, so it's not going well for you, Mr. Steinglass, or for you, Judge Mershon.

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This is what they do. And this is what happens when you have a society that focuses on a bunch of things that don't matter at all. It's like... It's like if I was a runner or I was signing up to run a marathon and I never worked out, never ran. I just sat around eating pizzas and tacos the whole time, never worked out, no cardio at all.

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And then it comes time for race day and I get up there and I say, I am extremely focused on running the race. I can't wait to run the race. I'm going to run as hard as I can. And looking back at any of the behavior I did leading up to this race is completely inappropriate because it's race day.

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No, it's extremely inappropriate if one of the biggest cities, if the second biggest city in the United States of America, with all that wealth, all that infrastructure, somehow failed its citizens, and clearly it did in ways that entire neighborhoods are gone. We're not talking blocks or individual homes.

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Entire neighborhoods are gone if the second biggest city in the United States of America fails.

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failed and is currently failing its citizens that badly no no no no accountability starts now because you're exactly right megan this is what the scumbags in the government federal state and local do all across this country they try to wait until the anger dies down because you and i both know about 48 hours from now the fires will be gone lord willing and everyone will be on their phones uh hooked on whatever the newest outrage is and people will move on

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And then a month after that, they'll have a commission, they'll have an investigation where they will investigate themselves. And another month or two after that, they'll put something out there that'll get printed on page 45 of the LA Times saying, well, I mean, we're not going to name anyone individually, but... Clearly, we have a couple of things we should do here and there. You know what?

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We probably need more money. And then that's the last anyone will ever hear of it. And you have all these people who've lost everything. And what I'm trying to get through to the American people is we have to start punishing the politicians who run us by taking their power away from them. There is no second option.

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They'll blame one woman and one woman only. And that woman is Santa Ana. That's the one. It was her fault and her fault alone, and definitely not the fault of Karen Bass or any one of these Christens or Christines or Christinas trying to run the FD in Los Angeles. Here is, by the way, the fire chief on CBS responding to the criticism of the DEI thing.

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In addition to making this sentencing hearing happen, which didn't have to, and Steinglass and his boss, Alvin Bragg, pursuing it all the way up to the Supreme Court because Trump tried to stop the sentencing, saying, for the same reasons you can't try a president for official acts because he's immune, thanks to that Supreme Court ruling, you can't come after a president-elect like this.

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Well, you didn't. But that's not true. I mean, and by the way, what a lame question, right? Like, were your DEI efforts at the expense of planning to fight fires? That's not the, what do you think she's going to say, right? And just one other point. She seems like this is a woman I would expect to see when I go in for my parent-child teacher conference. right? Like kind of sweet, nice manner.

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Like does that woman instill confidence in you as the person in charge of fighting this? One of the most disastrous blazes the country has ever seen. She doesn't even seem like I want somebody who looks grizzled, sounds grizzled and is like, Nora, I don't have time for this shit, but I'm going to give you my top five points in what we're doing. Goodbye.

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Yeah. No, I want my fire chief to be some 60-year-old man who has to put out his Marlboro Red before he goes on television to tell me about all the training he's got put in for his guys. But what she just said there is a lie. She lied the same way Karen Bass lied. She knows right now, now that they're under fire, she has to get up here and say, that's my number one priority.

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But again, back to my marathon analogy, that was not your number one priority. You've been on videotape discussing how your priorities were We need to stuff more women and more LGBTQ Air Force types and all these people into positions of power. That's been your number one priority leading up to the fire.

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And now that the fire's here and everyone's angry, you know you're supposed to go on television and say that's your number one priority. But that's not these people's number one priority. It never is. Their number one priority is pushing their sick demonic religion in every single part of this society. And if society has to burn down, well... The revolution is all that matters.

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Revolution without end. As Mao always said, you always keep the revolution going. Doesn't matter how many planes fall from the sky or houses burn or wars we lose. You keep moving forward. And this is why the right has got to develop some teeth. We really have to sharpen our teeth a lot because the right has been in love with tolerance for the longest time. But we have to be nice.

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We're better than that. That's not who we are. That has been the language of nursery rhyme conservatism for my 43 years on the planet. No, these are evil, psychopathic, demonic children, and they have to be put in their place in order to preserve a polite society. Otherwise, you get to watch one of America's cities burn.

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You watch the real life carnage. I mean, the aerials are just absolutely devastating. It's awful. Palisades, Pacific Palisades looks like Gaza. Looks like Gaza now. I mean, it completely... And you see some of the videos. I'm actually going to talk to you for a second about some of the celeb videos that have come out because there's a couple who are really sweet and who I like.

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and make him sit for sentencing. He's got other things he's got to do for the nation. And ultimately, the U.S. Supreme Court said in a ruling, no, we're going to let this play out. The harm to you is minimal. It was Amy Coney Barrett and Chief Justice Roberts who did not side with the four other conservatives costing Trump that decision.

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And I just feel so bad. We talked to James Woods. We talked to Adam Carolla. We're still waiting to find out whether their houses are standing. But it's the real people who really tug at your heartstrings. You know what I mean? Like the non-celebs who are like, holy shit. And this woman, Fran, this is actually tweeted out by J.D. Vance this morning. Her name is Fran. She's a resident of Altadena.

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And she's speaking with Brian Enten of News Nation about what she's looking at as she gets back to see her house destroyed. Look at this.

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It's awful. This incompetence costs lives. It costs lives in more ways than one.

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It does. And your heart breaks because when you think about a home, especially, I mean, that lady, 26 years in that home, think about all the memories. I'm, as you well know, Megan, we're friends. I'm not exactly the softest, cuddliest type full of emotions, but I've moved my whole life. We lived in 10 houses in 10 years. That's just kind of how I grew up. We're always moving around.

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And to this day, when I move, whether I'm leaving an apartment or a house, I get, I mean, I don't get choked up, but I have to take a moment and say goodbye because you're looking at it. That's the living room where I play bagels with my sons, right? That's the kitchen where I'd come home and harass my wife while she's making dinner. There are so many memories that are built into those walls.

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And I mean, that's one story, right? We have the video of it. How many stories like that are out of Los Angeles? And I just, I don't want to beat it. I don't want to beat a dead horse, but I keep coming back to these are the consequences of voting Democrat. They really genuinely are. You vote Democrat forever and allow these.

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At least in the case of Adam and James Woods, you know they didn't. It's like not that it's a comfort to see the liberals lose their houses, but at least you'd have the peace of mind of saying at least I didn't vote for this. At least maybe if my guy had gotten in there, we would have stood a fighting chance. At least others might finally see the light here.

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She's getting more and more like Roberts every day, and that's not a good thing. in any event. So he had to sit for it and he had to be sentenced. But that's why they wanted it so desperately today. There was no reason. Judge Rashawn had said, I'm not going to impose jail time. He telegraphed. It's basically, I'm just going to slap him on the wrist.

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Um, I will say this one actor, I don't know what his political stripes are. I've interviewed him a couple of times on NBC. I really like this show, this actor and this guy, his name is Milo Ventimiglia and he was for, um, the Gilmore girls fans. He played in that.

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And then he became the star of This Is Us, a huge NBC hit show in which they tell you up front, like the beginning of the series, that his character, the dad, his name is Jack, dies. And so then the series goes on and you fall in love with Jack. And the whole time you're watching the series fall in love with the family, you're like... Well, how did Jack die? Why is Jack no longer here?

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You can see future versions of the children, older, and they talk about the missing dad. Then you have the flashbacks to the scenes with Milo, and Jack's alive. Anyway, the whole thing is around Jack, and how did he die? And then the big reveal, spoiler alert, this has been out for many years, so...

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is that Jack died when a slow cooker caught fire in the family home that now you've seen five seasons of by the time you find this out. It's just terrible. It was like a devastating moment in TV history when you found this out. Anyway, this is a good guy. His house burned down in real life this week. And here he is on camera speaking to CBS News about it.

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he has another baby. He has a baby due any day now. He was talking about how they had just decorated the nursery. It doesn't matter whether you have money or you don't have money, the loss of your home and everything in it and all the memories you made already and were building is real and it's profound. And I just can't tolerate the

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You know, after I'm done saving all the lives, then you can question me. First of all, you were in damn Ghana. And that's the other thing, Jesse. Now the reporting's coming out from Breitbart, from Jim Garrity at National Review. She knew Karen Bass had been warned for days. The National Weather Service was jumping up and down saying... severe fire warning.

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The whole point of doing this was so that we can call him a convicted felon. We really, really worked so hard to be able to call him a convicted felon. So that's what we're going to do. So, okay, you got it. Now, President Trump, was allowed to appear over Zoom, which is unusual. That's great. Thank you for accommodating the next president of the United States.

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We are going to have massive fires in LA. These Santa Ana winds are at epic levels. It's not safe. And what did she do? And that was the Friday before, the Saturday before where she heard them and got on a plane to Ghana. It's not like going to Seattle from LA. She went to Ghana Sunday, the same. She didn't come back early. Monday, the same. She didn't come back early. Tuesday, as her city burned.

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Finally, she comes back Wednesday, and she wants credit in her soundbite for, I took the fastest route home.

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Well, she's certainly not going to postpone a cross-world trip to Ghana for a little thing like her city, Megan. I mean, I've said this for the longest time about politicians. Most of these people become politicians because they want access to the things rich people have without having the ability to actually acquire wealth. So they take positions of power and then they bloodsuck off the taxpayer.

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They do this all the time. These mayors, she's not even alone in this. These mayors, small town mayors will do this. Oh, no, we're on a fact-finding mission in Madrid this week. Oh, of course the taxpayer pays for that. These dirt balls in Congress do it all the time. You just saw Kamala Harris. They've got like 15 minutes left in the White House.

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She has no responsibilities and never had any whatsoever. But she's going on a round-the-world trip, one final vacation on the taxpayer dime to Singapore and all these other beautiful places. What's she doing? Is it some sort of critical diplomacy? No. She's living it up because she finally has that taxpayer funded credit card and it always clears. And that's what they do.

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That's why these people take. That's why they even want to be politicians, because otherwise being a politician would suck. You have to ask people for money all the time. People are always mad at you, screaming at you. So why would you take the job? You take the job because you want access to the things wealthy people have. But you're a dirt ball with no talent.

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Speaking of Kamala Harris, let's lighten it up a minute. Lighten it up with the funeral of Jimmy Carter. It's always sad when somebody passes, but he was 100 years old. I mean, you know, he had a long, fruitful life. The most interesting dynamic was in the audience, right? It was in the audience as all these former presidents took their seats with their wives and the dynamics between them.

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And since we were talking about Kamala Harris, we'll start with this as we are going to get to the Trump and Obama moment, which I'll show separately. But Kamala appears to be looking back at those two, Trump and Obama, yucking it up. And she does not look happy, right? Like here she is, she's looking forward next to Doug Emhoff. She can see the two of them talking. She turns back.

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He's down there meeting with Zuckerberg and Bill Gates, all of whom have come in and bent the knee. Do it. Good. Jeff Bezos left his prostitute looking wife for two minutes or soon to be to go over and bend the knee. Have you seen the pictures of this woman down in St. Bart? I'm sorry. She dresses like a prostitute. They're all bending the knee for Donald Trump. So he's busy.

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It looks like a deep sigh. Looks down. She's like, what in the actual F? Look at her.

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What do you think is going through that thought bubble, Jessie Kelly?

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Well, I think Kamala Harris, who is I mean, this is saying a lot, maybe the most nakedly ambitious politician I've ever seen her entire career. It's just been one endless ladder climb, say anything, do anything, take any position on any issue in order to get the next thing. So this that's the kind of person we're dealing with here. Well, what happened? The dynamics are.

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Barack Obama was the one who engineered the coup. He was the one who engineered the coup to get Joe Biden out of the White House. And not only did he engineer the coup to get Joe Biden out of the White House, he's the one who vouched for Kamala Harris with his vast donor network, billionaire after billionaire after billionaire,

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He knifed Joe Biden in the ribs, shoved him out the back of the White House, and then picked up the phone and organized $1.5 billion with the B to be given to Kamala Harris for her campaign, where she proceeded to not only embarrass herself the entire time, she embarrassed him. When you vouch for somebody with a bunch of billionaires... And they flame out as badly as she flames out.

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Well, he is not going to do that again. And without Barack Obama, without Daddy Barack carrying her, Kamala Harris is never, ever, ever, ever, ever going to be able to launch a significant presidential run again in her life. Will she run again in the 2028 primary?

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Of course she will, but she'll get the 1% to 2% before she has to embarrassingly drop out the exact same way she did last time before Daddy Barack brought her. Now think about all that when you think about Kamala Harris looking over her shoulder back at Barack Obama. You know, I wouldn't put it past Trump to say a little bit too loudly, hey, How'd she work out for you?

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Or in the very least, if he didn't say it, I bet you Kamala Harris is thinking he said it.

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That's a very interesting point I haven't heard anybody else make about how What does her future look like without the full-throated backing of Barack Obama, who definitely, you're right, has realized what an inept politician she was.

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Apparently had some hesitancy about her being the nominee anyway, but realized this is where this train is going, but now has lived it firsthand the way we all had to. So yeah, so much has fallen apart for Kamala Harris. She reached too high, too fast, and failed upward. Okay, but the more interesting thing is what she's seeing behind her. what those two guys are doing behind her.

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And before we zero in on the muckety-mucking that's happening between Obama and Trump, I want people to remember what former President Obama was saying about Trump literally in October, okay? Three months ago. Listen here, Sat 22.

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He acts so crazy, and it's become so common that people no longer take it seriously. Right. I'm here to explain to you, just because he acts goofy does not mean his presidency wouldn't be dangerous. And you do not have to take my word for it. Lately, some of the people who know Donald Trump best have been saying in no uncertain terms that he should not be president again.

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The other day, General John Kelly, Donald Trump's former chief of staff... said that Trump told him he wanted his generals to be like Hitler's generals. Now, don't boo. Vote.

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So he wants Hitler's generals to take over and he's genuinely dangerous. Cut to yesterday and the two of them. There they are chatting. Barack's laughing, genuinely laughing to where like his body is shaking. Hitler's so funny, Jesse. Hitler's quite charming when you spend time with him one-on-one.

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Judge Mershon, he doesn't have a whole lot of shit ton of time to deal with you and your political theater. But he appeared via Zoom, and then the judge did something he hasn't done before in this whole process, adding to the theater, which was he released the audio. That's how we just got to hear a stained glass. And none of this thing was on camera or on audio, remember?

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Well, you know who should be mad about that. But they won't be. But who should be mad about that are the little drones who vote Democrat every single time. Because these people lie to your face all the time. None of these people think Trump is actually Hitler or a Nazi or a white supremacist.

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And before Donald Trump started running for president, he was a lifelong Democrat who was chumming up with these people at every single cocktail party out there. And they all loved him. Chuck Schumer, all these guys, they all loved him. They all talked to him. And Trump is an insanely charming and yes, very funny individual. And they were all laughing at his jokes and they know exactly who he is.

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But then when election season comes up, they know they have to ramp up the mindless drones into an endless panic that Hitler is the Hitler's coming back. And so they stand up and they tell people Hitler's coming, Hitler's coming, Hitler's coming. And you have all these single women on anti-anxiety meds freaking out. I'm gosh, the world's going to end.

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And then as soon as the election's over, they go yuck it up and talk about the meat lovers pizza they're going to share that night. I'd be mad if my politicians lied to me all the time like that. I get mad when the GOP lies to me, which they do routinely. So maybe Democrats should do the same.

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In a New York City courtroom this morning, Judge Juan Merchan handed down the sentence of an unconditional discharge to President Trump. This means no jail time or any other punishment, and many believe the conviction will eventually be thrown out on appeal. It will be thrown out on appeal. Mark my words. it's going to be thrown out on appeal.

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Here is one drone who is upset about all the warnings that this was Hitler. And his takeaway is not, They said he was Hitler and it was a lie. His takeaway is he is Hitler. And why is no one talking about how I am now going to be protected? Before I play this soundbite, the guy's name is Anand Giridharadas. He's an NYU, I think, adjunct professor at the journalism school.

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I need practical guidance and I need to be defended. Can you imagine being a man and speaking like that?

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Yeah, well, that's how that's I mean, you're half a man if you vote Democrat anyway. But I don't understand that mentality anyway. Megan, if somebody told me that I couldn't go on the lawn, my front lawn, because there were landmines on the lawn and then I turn around and that person was walking around the lawn drinking a cup of coffee.

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I would think that person is a horrific liar who perhaps didn't have my best interest at heart. Yet these people get lied to repeatedly. And all they do, maybe it's a Democrat thing, is bend over and say, thank you, sir. May I have another? I don't understand that way of thinking. I can't relate to it at all. But whatever. Have a miserable life, sick freaks.

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We didn't get to hear audio of Stormy Daniels. We saw the sketch artist painting of her. And she took the stand. But today, Judge Marchand really, you know, he waxed poetic about the case from the bench. And I think he knew he was going to say something truly profound that America would want to hear.

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This is the message, I guess, to the incoming class of journalists, which means we're going to have a lot more of what we have had. I will say this in defense of male Democrats. The normal ones who are not woke or evil, whatever we're calling the wokesters these days, they have all sorts of reasons why I understand they vote for Democrats. And I know and love a lot of them.

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But I do think if you're looking around at this world as it stands now and thinking that you're getting better policies and better results with all Democrat rule, whether it's a place like Canada or it's a place like California, you're You're blind. You're blind.

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It's not that you deserve to have your home burned down, but you are going to get a lot more just like that if you continue voting against your own self-interest to make yourself feel like a better person. Jesse Kelly, you're a better person. That's why it's always a pleasure talking to you. Always learn something and always get a different POV. Thanks for being here.

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All right. We're going to get to a little bit more news when we come back right after this. Don't go away. I'm Megan Kelly, host of The Megan Kelly Show on Sirius XM. It's your home for open, honest, and provocative conversations with the most interesting and important political, legal, and cultural figures today.

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A couple of other important stories to get to. Do you remember the day last year when Joe Biden reversed Title IX? with a wave of his magic administrative wand, where he took a statute that was passed by Congress to protect girls and women in sport and with the magic wand completely gutted it. Just saying, you know, oh, all it is is an administrative rule enforcing Title IX. That's all we did.

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It's just like, this is just guidance on how we're going to enforce it. But really what he did was completely gut the entire statute by saying Title IX no longer just applied to girls and women. It applies to boys and men pretending to be girls and women. I mean, it completely stood the rule on its head.

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Because one of the main fights, no, the main fight that's happening under Title IX right now for the protection of girls and women is to keep men pretending to be us out of our sports and our sports facilities and our private spaces in school. And this affects K through college. Well, Joe Biden thought he knew better.

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And maybe they'd want to hear Stein glass talk about what a shit Trump is and what like a really important case this wasn't how, how poorly the justice system has been treated by Trump. So they released the audio.

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Joe Biden, who's having trannies show up on the White House lawn and show off their fake tits. Sorry. thought he would do better on this than the US Congress, which had duly passed the law and decided, or someone pretending to be the weekend at Bernie's president, pushed through this rule change, which completely undermined the rule of law and the principles behind it.

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And it was a before and after moment for me personally, because it was the first time I've ever come out on the air in public and said who I voted for in an election. I had never done that. And frankly, it started a path that got me ultimately speaking for Trump the night before the election.

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You know, once I had crossed that line, it wasn't so hard to cross the next line to say like, and this is who I'm voting for in the next election and why I think you should vote as I do. And so like this Title IX thing is very deep and personal to me and to most women I know and most dads, not just women, men too, who have daughters in the system and who are worried about this issue.

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So just as a flashback, here is the day it came out. We had thrown out our show and decided to just talk about this abomination. And here's what happened. It must be undone. Do not comply. The rules don't take effect until August. Don't comply. Don't use their language. Protect your daughters. Fight. Protect your sons. Speak up. Don't comply. Don't comply.

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Don't let your child play the pronoun game. Don't you play it. This is gonna be taken up. They're not gonna get away with this. And indeed, now, that was April, in January of 2025, it has been taken up and the rule has been struck down nationwide. The rule is dead. God bless the judge who did it and the states who brought the lawsuit.

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State after state after state joined together to say, absolutely not. They want you to believe Trump is lawless. Trump has made a mockery of the justice system. Joe Biden tried to rewrite the definition of women without a single lawmaker weighing in. Never mind that it's God's decision and it's been rendered.

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Meantime, that included the audio of Donald Trump, who was participating in the whole thing from Florida, where he said that he is completely innocent and that this case was a political witch hunt from the start. Watch.

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He tried to do this behind closed doors and just say it was all about equity and you were a bigot if you disagreed. Well, Tennessee, Kentucky, Ohio, Indiana, Virginia, West Virginia joined together and said, no, we are filing legal challenges to this absolute nonsense. And one of those lawsuits that they all joined in on led to this decision yesterday on Thursday.

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The rule had already been temporarily blocked in 26 states as a result of these more red states joining together. But now it's officially stopped. It's been definitively ruled against thanks to a judge named Danny C. Reeves, R-E-E-V-E-S, of the Eastern District of Kentucky, in a 15-page opinion which just excoriates Miguel Cardona and the Department of Education.

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for trying to do this, saying you may not lawfully expand the definition of Title IX to prohibit discrimination based on gender identity as opposed to sex, which is the governing standard, which means male or female. Female are protected by Title IX. And expanding it to people who identify as female guts the rule. That's what the judge found.

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The entire point, he wrote, of Title IX is to prevent discrimination based on sex. Throwing gender identity into the mix eviscerates the statute and renders it largely meaningless. Right on. Right on. Reading more here from the New York Times write-up of the decision.

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citing the Supreme Court's sweeping decision in Loper Bright Enterprises versus Raimondo last year, which limited the regulatory power of federal agencies. Remember, we talked about this, how the Supreme Court ruled last term. The days of letting these administrative agencies, also known as the deep state,

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to have this sweeping sort of legislative power that nobody voted that they could have are over. This sort of Chevron deference, as it was known, we're not doing that anymore. These are unelected bureaucrats. They don't get to gut federal legislation because, you know, finger in the air, all the times have changed. We think men are women now. No, that's not the way it works. So continuing here.

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Citing the court's sweeping decision, which limited the regulatory power of federal agencies, Judge Reeves wrote that the Biden administration had overstepped when it sought to enforce its new interpretation of Title IX through federal rulemaking. But more significantly, the judge also rejected, listen up, this is important to you, the revised rule on free speech grounds.

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Okay, so it wasn't just you don't have the power to legislate. You're a bunch of unelected bureaucrats. That was a part of it.

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But equally important was the First Amendment piece of the ruling, which affects all of us when it comes to these ridiculous preferred pronouns that are being forced down our throats, not just in the Title IX context, not just you will call him or her and let him play softball against your daughter.

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But in the work context, in every context, state after state, including New York, including Connecticut, are trying to make it amount to statutorily, either under the civil rights laws or for civil liability purposes, hostile work environment. If you don't call the he's a she at their request, they're trying to mandate the preferred pronoun thing into mandatory pronouns.

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in order to be equitable and kind. And they don't care that you're eliminating, you're erasing women and girls and doing it. Well, no more. Not according to this judge. And we'll see whether this goes up. Good luck. I hope you do appeal it. I hope in the time Joe Biden has left, they file an appeal of this. because I'd love to see this reinforced by the Supreme court.

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It already really was in 303 creative. It really already was. You remember that case where the woman refused to do the wedding website for the gay couple. And they came out and said, this is free speech. She's allowed to say, I don't stand for this. I don't support this. Okay. They say, um, This is the Times write up more significantly.

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The judge also rejected the revised rule on free speech grounds, writing that it quote offends the first amendment by potentially requiring educators to use names and pronouns associated with the students chosen gender identity, not just the pronouns, but the names.

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The names, the new fake names that these schools are suddenly, oh, okay, Joe is suddenly Georgina, and we're going to have to go along with that. No. If you're a teacher who says, I don't believe in that, I'm a Christian. My God tells me he doesn't make mistakes. He doesn't make a boy secretly a girl. I'm not doing that.

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You're protected under this ruling so long as it doesn't get reversed, and it's not going to. Don't worry. Um, put simply the first amendment does not permit the government to chill speech or compel affirmance of a belief with which the speaker disagrees in this matter. Yes, yes. Right on judge Reeves. Right on. Here's some more. Uh, the court goes on to say the court remains persuaded that

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that the final rule offends the First Amendment for the reasons explained earlier in a prior memorandum. To recap briefly, the final rule's definitions of sex discrimination and sex-based harassment combined with the diminis... whatever, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, um...

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let's see, require title nine recipients, including teachers to use names and pronouns associated with a student's asserted gender identity. While the department insists that this is not necessarily the case, the new subjective harassment standard that need only limit participation in an educational program or activity quite clearly compels this result.

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So that's them saying, you can't say that this is not really happening. You're making teachers engage in this fallacy and they shouldn't be, you can't compel them to do that. Now look, this is a federal district ruling, federal district court. That's not the Supreme Court. That's two tiers down from the Supreme Court.

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But this decision had such weight in gutting the actual rule that no one's disputing it has nationwide effect, that the Title IX rule is officially done as Joe Biden tried to revise it. And now what we have to see is whether it gets appealed, whether that ruling gets appealed. And here's the really interesting thing. In 10 days, Donald Trump is going to be the president. Hallelujah.

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And what are the odds that his DOJ appeals this? I don't think any. I don't think they will appeal it. Even just to get it to the Supreme Court right now, I don't think they'd do that. This ruling stands, and it will be used by many other plaintiffs in other courts who are trying to challenge mandatory pronouns like this. And that's a plus, that's a benefit.

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And over the next four years or plus, right? Like anybody who tries to file a challenge, trying to force these pronouns down our throats or tries to redefine the definition of women and girls does so at great risk with this Supreme Court, Rulings like this, one after the other, get on the books.

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And don't forget, we're already waiting for a ruling from this Supreme Court that's related in this lane. So my point is simply that the lawfare, same as the lawfare against Trump, is failing for the left. The ACLU is failing in its attempts to make boys girls legally and to make the rest of us pretend we agree with that. And the Supreme Court, I think, is weeks or months away from doing the same.

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Thank God. Thank God. Thank God. Thank God. Thank God for these lawyers, these attorneys general who went in there and did what was right. Thank God for the presidents who have appointed rational judges who understand the law and and not identity politics as a filter through which they view the law.

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Judge Mershon, who again, you know, he could have done this. Not at all. Could have done this with no audio. Uh, but, or he could have done this if necessary after Trump's presidency, but no rushed it on. Um, He could have given the evil Trump who interfered with an election. That's what Steinglass said.

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And thank God President Trump won, because when he gets in there, he is going to undo the Biden changes to Title IX anyway. Let's not forget, there's a lot of problems with that law.

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He not only completely effed over women and girls, he also effed over young men on college campuses, remember, by completely lowering the standards by which they can be accused and convicted of being sexual assaulters or harassers and thrown off campus. President Trump's going to restore all of those protections. All of them.

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He's going to restore due process in Title IX, and he's going to actually change the wording of the rule officially back to what it was. But this is just one small area. There's not going to be any more pressure or guidance from the federal government, guaranteed. That it's a hostile work environment if you choose not to say somebody's preferred pronouns. All that shit is ending.

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These are, I think in most people's minds, the minor victories of Trump. Most importantly, let's get the criminal killers out of our country who crossed the border illegally. Yes, that's number one. We're going to be seeing all that on day one. Let's make America great again. Let's restore economic prosperity for all groups across all spectrums, irrespective of race and identity and all that stuff.

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But this is big, too. And there are a bunch of us who've been fighting for these changes. The list is too long. So many great women and men.

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But I'm just thinking of so many women who have devoted themselves to this issue over the past 10 plus years and the legal eagles who have been devoting themselves, including Alliance Defending Freedom, which is involved in this, these attorney generals who have made the difference here.

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And by the way, those of you who make donations to these groups, you know, the Independent Women's Forum, they've been amazing. ADF, amazing to try to get the funding for these lawsuits so that we can get these right rulings to protect our daughters. Well, it's happening. So man alive. That's great news, is it not? I'm thrilled about that. All right. By the way, let me know your thoughts.

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You can email me megan, M-E-G-Y-N at megankelly.com. And while I have you, go to megankelly.com today and sign up for our once a week email from me. And, uh, it's basically, we call it the American news minutes. You get all the news of the week in one minute or less. And I think you'll find it really interesting.

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Um, it'll also give you a link if you want to sign up for direct communication with us because we don't, we're a little worried about censorship as I know you guys are. So we just want to make sure we have a direct, we never send you anything other than this email and we never sell your email. None of that bullshit. I Uh, anyway, please do that.

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So we have a direct relationship with you and we can send you an email. If God forbid, we do get censored someplace where, you know, to find us last but not least, thank you for putting up with what has been a kind of fuzzy headed. thick-tongued week for me given this ridiculous cold flu. I don't know what I had, people, but it's been a rough one. But I'm feeling better.

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My roid rage is non-existent. It's good. I took the steroid back. Doug made it through on skates, so that's good for him. And, um... I would say just make sure that you wash your hands when you're out in the public, because that's what happened. I ventured out to Montana, went to a lot of restaurants, and before you knew it, I wasn't feeling too great. On the bright side, Doug's been a champion.

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I've been doing a lot of work with the kids and doing like the drive so that nobody gets sick with me in the small car. And I finally started True Detective season one with Matthew McConaughey and Woody Harrelson, which is excellent, though disturbing. And I watched some very weird show about, it was called Sweet Bobby, but a guy who was catfished. That's interesting. I'm catching up on my bad TV.

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He made this from a stupid business records case in which he wrote down legal expenses for money he gave to a lawyer to make a nasty complainant go away. That sounds like a legal expense to me. They turned it from a business records case into a hush money case into a federal election interference case, one that the feds refused to bring. Um, he could have given him up to four years in prison.

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So thanks to all of you for seeing me through it. I'm sure I'll be better on Monday and I hope all of you have a great weekend. Up next week, Pete Hegseth's confirmation hearing. See you then.

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That's serious business. You interfere with an election, the scheme that he was actually accused of lying to the American public, committing fraud so that they wouldn't know what they were electing. It was all lies. All of it was freaking lies. So, but if you follow their logic, he deserved four years in prison, right?

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Because they had to. They had to in order to get this thing... held before the inauguration because they knew Trump would appeal it. And one of the reasons the Supreme Court said, we're not going to hear this right now. We're kind of not interested. Trump can take this case up on appeal. By the way, it's going to be reversed. They didn't say that, but I'm sure it will be.

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One of the reasons the Supreme Court said, we're not going to take it right now. There's no urgency is because they said, look, the judge is telegraphing. He's not getting any jail times. We don't need to get involved yet. So that's why the prosecutor and the judge were both like, There'll be no prison time. Please let us hold our hearing in which we get to label him. We want the big CF label.

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It actually stands a very decent chance of being thrown out by the New York appellate court right above this guy, Mershon. And I believe the New York State Court of Appeals, this is eventually going away. So enjoy it while you can. You can say convicted felon right after you refer to him as Mr. President. And it will be a limited period of months. And then it will get reversed.

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Don't interfere. Okay, so he could have given him four years in prison. He said in advance he wouldn't, and he didn't. And he said he was distinguishing between Trump the citizen and Trump the president.

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And so will that label. And you helped get him elected. So with this lawfare, I hope that makes you feel good at night. Like, I'm not exactly sure why the Democrats feel so smug about this. None of this stopped the prosecutor of Donald Trump in the New York State Supreme case, Joshua Steinglass, from droning on. This man is ridiculous about just how terrible of a man he thinks Donald Trump is.

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First of all, I love how you pronounce misdemeanor, misdemeanor, like it's a contestant in one of Trump's beauty contests.

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Yeah. Well, I mean, that was a lie to begin with. And, you know, tell it to your husband who showed up at that Democratic campaign office when people weren't rallying behind Kamala Harris and called a bunch of Democrat voters, half of whom were men, half of whom were black, racists and sexists because they weren't getting behind Kamala Harris. Like that doesn't seem like going high to me. Um,

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And her husband and she have been out there suggesting Trump is Hitler. She wouldn't even go to Trump's inauguration. It doesn't seem like the high road. So she wants credit for taking the high road, even though, of course, she hasn't and she doesn't. And it's not where she spends her time. It's just like anything, Maureen.

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You know, like you and I, we wouldn't be out there being like, we only take the high road. We have nothing to compensate for. We're perfectly content on the low road and we'll make no apologies for it. while we're there. She's like, she's dishonest, right? So she's gotta say she's something other than what she is.

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Same way Anna Wintour had to pretend she understands the black experience because she decided to do black dandyism this year, even though there are no blacks running fashion houses. And even when they've come under the microscope, she's kept it down to a minimum. So in any event, I think she's a hypocrite.

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I think she's false, but I think the thing that's genuine about her is her depression, her unhappiness, her self-loathing and her loathing of him.

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I see, this drives me nuts because I know a lot of rich women, rich because they married a rich man and they're fine, they're cool, they're thrilled. They don't run around like overcompensating all the time or trying to, prove to everybody I am also special. I'm special too. They're like, my life's grand. I got these nice cars and this nice house and this, you know, guy who takes care of me.

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Like that is the way to do it if you decide to do it. What happened in both of these cases is they shot, you know, for the moon and they got it. You know, Harry landed the elephant. She got her prince. And Michelle got, you know, the star at Harvard who was very clear was going to be making a huge impact in Democrat politics.

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And then they spent the rest of the time seemingly resentful or even jealous. Like that's what I detect from these two women. Like there's an envy by them toward their husbands for being the main stars to the point where now Meghan Markle has almost like rearranged it all. You know, Dan Wooden was on my show the other day saying, he's now realized he's the spare to her.

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She's so used his fame and connections and his ability to help her make money that she's re-engineered the whole thing to where she's the breadwinner and he is just the whipped loser back at the house, which is exactly what Michelle Obama would kill for. She doesn't want Barack Obama in the headlines anymore. She wants it to be her.

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And so she's crapping all over him while still kind of using the Obama name and the time in the White House to make herself relevant.

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have you ever talked that negatively about somebody uniformly? You know, like you can never say anything nice about them. It's like, okay, now there are public figures who we don't like and we criticize, but like someone who's in your life who you get asked about. Like, it's just so bizarre.

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I don't, and her defense now, because it's coming in the news, you know, like her negativity about him has made news, not just with the yous and the mes of the world. And her defense now, she keeps sliding in here and there is, It's me trying to humanize him. I'm trying to humanize him. And Mia was like, okay, Barack Obama is one of the most recognizable famous people in the world.

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We don't need you anymore to make introductions for Barack Obama or to humanize him anymore. Like we know who he is. It's a known commodity. Like, it's very clear you're doing it because you can't stand him. And what I've found is I listen to her go on and on about how bad he is and about how bad her life is and how the White House sucked. She's just like Meghan Markle. My castle is too small.

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And then there's Michelle Obama. The White House made me pay for my own groceries. Like these two entitled, have-it-all people. The more I really start hoping that he is having that affair with Jennifer Aniston. That's all I can think of. Who could blame him?

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If I heard it was like, I don't know, some guy who worked in his garden, I might believe it now.

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But she still found a way to complain about it. It's like, so let me just get this straight. We, the people, moved you and your whole family into the White House. We gave him Air Force One. We gave you your own plane. You're in a 55,000 square foot mansion with an 18 acre estate around you, your own Rose Garden, your own staff, your own wing. She's got the East Wing. Okay, all of that.

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You're universally beloved and celebrated and put on magazine covers. You name your own book, Becoming. Who does that? Okay, but you're still celebrated as one of the world's most lovely and loved people, okay? And you're still unhappy about what again? About the fact that when the girls ride on the plane, You have to pay the equivalent of an airline ticket for them.

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And you have to pay for your own food. Like every other human alive. Like all of us, right? Like who's going to, she's so out of touch. She doesn't realize we're not going to feel sorry for her for having to pay for her groceries and her kids' airlines.

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She doesn't even have a stop in traffic. And even now she's like, you know, but I really deeply worry, worry about my country and my daughters, not me. I have my four car motorcade and law enforcement following me everywhere. I'm Michelle Obama. But my daughters.

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They're only barely recognizable and they're brown, so they could be picked up at any moment by this evil Trump's department and sent off to El Salvador. So I'm deeply worried about my two privileged daughters and all brown people in America because the country's racist, you see? The country that made me at least 100 millionaire, probably closer to a billionaire now, is racist to its core.

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Poor me. I was screwed over in the White House. I'm still getting screwed over. And poor brother Craig is there. Like, it's even worse than you thought, Sister Michelle. As bad as you think, you had it even worse, like her enabler, codependent brother. Her brother, frankly, seems terrified of her.

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Like when he was like, well, you know, maybe if we knew, if we knew you weren't feeling great, you know, like we guys, we would say something. And then she's like, we shouldn't have to ask. We shouldn't have to tell you, you know, snap back.

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Yeah, so that's the difference between her spouse, who doesn't seem to put up with her nonsense and her endless wanting to have these talks about everything, and Meghan's spouse. Because Meghan married somebody who is not well, Meghan Markle. Prince Harry is a weak, damaged man who doesn't have the inner strength that Barack Obama has.

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I mean, listen, I understand Barack Obama's faults and the vein and all. Sure. of all of that. But he doesn't have like such a tiny id the way Harry does. He doesn't really have a fundamental sense of himself. And so he was so easy for Meghan Markle to manipulate. All she needed was that first meeting. She was totally right that he would be like putty in her hands. that he would, he's too dumb.

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You know, of course he bought every act. She delivered hook, line, and sinker, her little ingenue. I'm so sweet and innocent. I don't even know who the queen is. I had no idea you were a prince. And he ran with it. He was so easy to manipulate. But Barack is stronger. So Michelle has gone like further into the doldrums of like, The only thing miserable people want is to make others miserable too.

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And she can't seem to do it with him. She's only gotten more angry in my opinion because she can't do it to him. He's got too big a life. He's too important to too many people. And she's not his only company.

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Yeah. I mean, how can she still be so angry about America? That's my big point. Like, it's like, okay, you don't like him. You married the wrong man. You're on your podcast talking about how, well, sometimes there's a bad decade in a marriage. No, there isn't. No, there isn't. Those marriages end in divorce. That is not a thing, Michelle. Sorry to tell you. Yeah.

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So she's out there, but she's still mad at the country. Like you hear her, she never makes a positive reference to the United States or her experience of it. It's always about how racist we are. We elected her husband twice, twice. twice and celebrated her. I mean, she's still, as far as I know to this day, is one of the most popular figures in the country. It's never enough.

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She's so much happier talking about her anger and her disappointment in the failure that we all are to her.

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Yes, this is why I love you, Maureen. Doesn't everyone love The Nerve? I genuinely love the show. I have not missed one. Thank you. So you're right. These two things are incongruous. And that means one of them is not true. And the one that is not true is his desire for reconciliation. He does believe all those things. I think he actually does believe them.

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I think it stems back to his childhood trauma, which was genuine at the loss of his mother, the way she died. And unlike William, who also had the same trauma and was only a couple of years older than Harry, dealt with it. He dealt with it and went on to have a relatively, it looks like from the outside anyway, healthy family life in his own created family.

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And Harry has not been able to get over it. And I almost think the way... If your parents abuse you, you'll marry an abuser. You know, like there's something psychologically that makes you like need a redo over and over hoping for another outcome. He's like, the way he talks about something happening to him or Megan, it's got like a hopeful tinge to it.

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You can sense he almost wants something to happen so that he can be like, I told you. See, it's my mother all over again. Like he needs it. Like he needs to feel special. He needs to feel under attack.

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I mean, they create these fake dramas around them to try to, it's almost like Maureen. I remember when I was a little kid, I, might've broken a toe. I don't know. I went with it. It's broken. I'm like, I need a cast. I need crutches. You know, I couldn't wait to go to school because I loved attention. And I was like, this is gonna attract all sorts of attention to me.

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Now I was still in the single digits when I did this. And now, like with my kids, I can see it happening from a mile away when they do it. They can get away with nothing. But that's how he still is. And Meghan Markle, too. Like, he needs the drama of, like, they're out to get us. They want to kill us. The press is going to lead to Meghan getting killed just like my mother.

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All the stuff I just mentioned is, like, combined to create this delusional, paranoid drama. sad sack that used to be a sought after prince. And now it's just sort of like a charity case where you're like, oh, oh, oh.

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No, I've never seen somebody so anxious to disclose his alleged security threats. I mean, it is strange. Like I actually had a very, very dark period when I first became a journalist where I developed a very bad stalker. I was, nobody knew who I was. I was on the weekend shifts on Fox, but I happened to be the one person.

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Whoa, nobody knew. You weren't that famous yet.

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Not at all, not at all. But you just happened to be the one person who developed this very dangerous stalker. And now I talk about it. That's 20 years ago, right? That's a long resolve. The guy went to jail for 10 years. But at the time, I would rather be caught dead. I was like...

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And hell no, anything I say could like encourage the person or create another such person or like if you're actually under threat and genuinely afraid for your safety, you don't want to go anywhere near that discussion. And the whole lawsuit with the family and the security, that was just his attempt to, like, win, you know, to punish them, to say, like, you're not in control of me.

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Like, I will get what I'm entitled to. I'm a prince of England. You know, I will have it because... We all know, number one, he has the money to pay for private security, all the private security he wants. Now, it's true, you cannot arm them in Great Britain. They're not allowed to carry guns. So that's a diminishment of full protection. But it's what Taylor Swift has to deal with.

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It's what Tom Cruise has to deal with. It's what every massive star, way more famous than Harry, has to deal with when they go bankrupt. And speaking of stalkers, I guarantee you Taylor Swift is in far more danger at any public appearance than Prince Harry is. But the second point, Dan Wooden told me, he broke Megxit, he's broken all these big royal stories, that the King said to Harry, okay,

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Queen Elizabeth said you cannot have the security the same as you would if you were working royal. We cannot look at the taxpayers and tell them they have to foot that bill since you're not doing any work for us and you fled the coop and you're trying to make money off of all our stories on Netflix. Whenever you come here, you can stay in Buckingham Palace. Yes!

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And you will get all the security that comes with that. And Harry refuses to do it, even though, Maureen, no one's in Buckingham Palace. William and Kate are at a different palace, and so are Charles and Camilla. So he'd have Buckingham Palace to himself with all the security, and he still is on the BBC going, boo-fucking-hoo.

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I heard it on the nerve. I think you were talking about it on your last episode. And then the latest I heard was that she wasn't a celebrity witness, but she was one of the key accusers has gone missing. What? Yeah. I didn't hear that. Yeah. And she was supposed to show up and they can't find her. And there's a search.

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I don't know if she's absconded, like she's having second thoughts about testifying or there was even just a miscommunication issue that caused her not to show up. But I'm sure people are very intimidated about walking into that courtroom and testifying against him.

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Yeah. Well, look, we saw him beat his ex-girlfriend. And then we read the allegations from the main ex-girlfriend, who's like one of the main accusers in this case, Cassie, who's going to take the stand. And then, you know, allegedly setting the car on fire of the kid Cuddy. Kid Cuddy, yeah. Because they liked the same person, you know, the same woman.

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Like if he's capable of all of that, allegedly, I mean, we know the beating happened. We saw it with our own eyes. In a hotel hallway. Yeah. Then how far would he go? Like, I don't know. I mean, look, I said this on my show this week and it's true. I went to the Met Gala. I went two years, Maureen. And what I remember- Yes.

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You know, Anna Wintour and I used to be, well, no, we weren't friends, but she was cozying up to me when she thought Trump didn't like me. She was like, oh, then I must like her. So I went there. And the thing I remember most from being there was P. Diddy in the restroom of the Met. It was the women's room. That's why I was there. Dry humping a Kardashian.

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I heard the dry humping anecdote, but I don't think you revealed the name. Yeah. There were multiple Kardashians in there. And like that other sort of lame supermodel version, you know, like not the real supermodels like we grew up with, but like these new influencer types. Right, right. They were all in there. No one was using the bathroom. They were smoking and dry humping. Right.

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And that was P. Diddy. Like, I'm just saying there's a pattern of disrespect for others and our sacred places and things that should be treated as inviolate. And it applies to places and it applies to people. And I have no idea what this guy's capable of, but I think it's probably worse than we can even imagine.

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So if I were in the SDNY, I'd be really seriously considering getting all of my witnesses protection. and making sure that neither he nor his people had any way of threatening or accessing them.

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Like fine, you're gonna be a smoker, it's fine. But like truly some of our most sacred works of art are inside the Met. There's no smoking. You cannot smoke. And Doug was in the men's room with two people whose names you would definitely know who are of the tech world, snorting Coke. Like this is a lovely gala.

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These are the people who think there are betters who look down at, you know, the great unwashed as like, oh, they can't come to Anna Wintour's the Met gala. But it's no surprise to me that this guy wound up being a complete cretin. And I don't know whether SDNY's got the case made.

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I really don't because, you know, for the same reasons you guys were discussing with the lawyer on your case on your show the other day, I'm sure he's going to argue, I love sex parties. People love to give it up to me for free because I was rich and I was a rap mogul and I don't have to force anybody into it. Like, trust me.

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And if you can't criminalize my weird sex parties as a big star, I think that'll be the defense. I think it'll be convicted, but you know, I wouldn't bet money on it, Maureen, because that kind of defense, you know, Harvey Weinstein's doing the same thing right now in another courtroom and he might get away with it too.

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Sure, it's just like paper towels.

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Listen, my big takeaway on that was like, I feel like Doug and I might be phoning it in. Like, do I?

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And like covered with baby oil. Everybody should just be. You've been to my house for a party, Maureen. I like I feel like we fell down on the job.

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I know, I guess, I mean, Ashton Kutcher too, which is not really a shock, but like- I am not shocked, I don't know. Like, as you know, people are really dazzled by huge wealth. And not even just, and rock stars have it in a, particular way. Like they're almost bigger than our actors. Like there's something about them.

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That's like, it's like, you could say Tom Cruise is coming to the restaurant and people would swoon for sure. But like, if you say like Rihanna is coming to the restaurant, you're going to have to shut down the restaurant. You're going to have to get layers of cops. It's just, they're bigger. They're just in a different stratosphere for whatever reason, the mystery around them. I

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You feel like you know the actors because you hear them saying lines and you see them up close and the performers are different. They've just got this incredible talent and they have this whole team around them that builds image. And I just think that people are very susceptible to that kind of a person deigning to speak to them, to want to be with them, to entertain them.

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And that's why mothers handed over their children like Usher and Justin Bieber, you know? And it's the same thing that led maybe Mike Myers to go into these ditty parties and allow himself to be in the presence of what may have been open crimes. And like a roll of the eyes, like, I guess this is just how they live. And I've been given this chance to peer inside. Yes.

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You know, it's human nature to want to see, like, what am I being shown?

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How bad is it? And I'll tell you one other story on this. There was a woman who told me her Harvey Weinstein story. I'm gonna keep this ambiguous so I don't identify her inadvertently. But he didn't touch her. He was just really gross and did some outrageous things around her. And I asked her like, well, why, he didn't have you like under his control.

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So why didn't you just like run or turn and leave? And she said, I was curious to see how far he was gonna take it. Like it was Harvey Weinstein.

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And it was shocking. You know, I'm like, oh my God, look at what he's doing. Is he gonna see this through to the end? Like how far is he gonna go with this? And I think that element is at play with otherwise normal people going to these ditty parties too. what is this? I've been given this glimpse and I can't stop looking at it.

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And next thing you know, you're a witness at a criminal trial being asked to talk about it.

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It's my pleasure. I have never believed in someone more, Maureen. I know this show is already a success and it's going to be even bigger. We're watching your numbers climb. We're all like, oh my God, look at this woman. It's crazy, but it's such a fun show to listen to. It's like my guilty pleasure. I try to store them up for the weekends when I'm like just on my own and I can really enjoy it.

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And most of my podcasts I play on 2.0 just because I listen to so many. Sure. I I listen to yours on 1.0, Maureen. That's new territory. Oh, my God.

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One, two. Okay, now let's look at Malia Obama's Nike ad. Well, isn't that interesting?

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I mean, I'm everywhere. The two of us are everywhere, but we're making it happen, Maureen. I love it.

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I think that that transitioning line was meant to get attention because her podcast is failing. No one wants to watch it. And she's not used to that. You know, she's used to being the center of attention. Everyone's interested in me. I don't have to try hard. And so now she she's embarrassed.

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And so I think she's intentionally dropping these little nuggets in these podcasts just so she can get pick up. and talking here and there about her marriage because she knows that she'll get pickup if she talks about him. You know, it's kind of like Meghan and Harry where it's like the man is the star and the woman is kind of the glommer. She's like the also-ran.

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Like we're interested in her to the extent she's gonna tell us about him. And she knows that, so she's working it. But she can't hide her general morose nature. So the more you tune into these clips, never mind that show, and I actually have tried to watch it because it's our business. It's terrible. She's the most depressing person to spend time with. So it's going to continue failing.