The Megyn Kelly Show
Left Pushes "Constitutional Crisis" Narrative, and Trump Brings Back Plastic Straws, with Charles Cooke, Rich Lowry, and Carol Swain | Ep. 1005
Tue, 11 Feb 2025
Megyn Kelly discusses the new narrative and talking point from the corporate media and the establishment Democrats that President Trump is bringing us to a “constitutional crisis,” their hypocrisy related to former President Biden when he said he defied a court order on his student loan forgiveness plan, and more. Then National Review's Charles C.W. Cooke and Rich Lowry join to discuss the legacy media’s approved narrative about Trump’s "constitutional crisis," the absurd overreaction and the reality of the situation, the outrageous things USAID has been paying for under past administrations, why Trump is so popular currently with Americans based on new polls, why the establishment and corporate media hates him, the "scholars" and "experts" who supported Biden, FEMA execs fired for defying Trump and sending funds, the executive order Trump signed to get rid of paper straws and bring back plastic straws, the hypocrisy from the left criticizing him for focusing on common sense issues, and more. Then Carol Swain, author of "The Gay Affair," joins to discuss former Harvard President Claudine Gay blaming racism for her plagiarism scandal rather than taking responsibility, what she plagiarized from Carol herself, the epidemic of plagiarism in academia today, how she overcame actual racism from white progressives in her past, CNN pundits whining and playing the victim in 2025, the targeting she gets as a black conservative, and more.Cooke-https://twitter.com/charlescwcookeLowry-https://www.nationalreview.com/Swain-https://carolmswain.com/ Follow The Megyn Kelly Show on all social platforms:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/MegynKellyTwitter: http://Twitter.com/MegynKellyShowInstagram: http://Instagram.com/MegynKellyShowFacebook: http://Facebook.com/MegynKellyShow Find out more information at: https://www.devilmaycaremedia.com/megynkellyshowFYSI: Book your free business review today at https://FYSI.com/MegynJustThrive: Visit https://JustThriveHealth.com and use code MEGYN and save 20% sitewideCozy Earth: https://www.CozyEarth.com/MEGYN | code MEGYN
Chapter 1: What is the 'constitutional crisis' narrative discussed in this episode?
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The show needs to start at two o'clock instead of 12 o'clock. Oh, well, here we go. Let's do this thing. It is day 22 of the Trump administration and the breakneck pace shows no signs of slowing down. It's so fun. But the Democrats think they've found the speed bump they've been looking for. Of course, they're filing lawsuit after lawsuit, I think 40 lawsuits so far.
And that has allowed them because they have some judges who are finding their way. Or what I'm seeing more often is just they're winning temporary restraining orders to say, you can't enforce that law until we have a full hearing on it. Like I need it to be briefed and I need a full evidentiary hearing for me to understand what's going on. And they're like, Oh, it's a huge win.
We're shutting down Trump's ability to change the government. And then they, when Trump says, I don't think you'd actually do have the ability to stop me from doing this constitutional crisis. It's a constitutional crisis. He's not listening to the judiciary. Meanwhile, there's literally only one example of him being ordered to
to resume payments to federal agencies, where then the plaintiff said he didn't resume doing that fast enough. And the Trump team filed a brief saying, actually, we are making all of these payments in the following few fields. They were never affected to begin with, but we're still doing our assessments under the other fields that he wanted to see if the funding's proper on.
And the judge did not say you're in contempt. You you're in huge trouble for doing that. The judge said, you got to do it. You got to you got to resume in all of it until we have our hearing. So the judge doesn't think it's a constitution. There's literally just one case in which the judge said, you didn't quite do what I told you to do. Please do it.
And the Trump administration, I think, is going to do it. They haven't said we're not going to do it. Um, if the judge says do it and the Trump team says we refuse, then we're closer to actually having a crisis between the branches. Um, this judge is going to get overruled that the feds are allowed.
The executive branch is allowed to control a lot of how the money gets spent, whether it gets spent. They can't shut down entire agencies that are authorized by Congress, but they do have a lot of control over money and whether to spend it. And I realize that these various plaintiffs don't like that. The Democrats don't like that. But it's going to play out in the courts.
And I think in, as I said last night, nine out of 10 of these cases is going to go Trump's way. So we are not at a constitutional crisis yet. He has not flipped the bird to any judge telling him he must do something yet. Who has done that? Joe Biden. That actually was Joe Biden. And I don't remember these same people freaking out. But take a look at some of the coverage over.
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Chapter 2: How are lawsuits impacting the Trump administration?
All right. Well, that's Trump ripping on the judges. No one's surprised to hear that either. Joining me now on this and so much more, it's an NR Day, Charles C.W. Cook, senior editor and host of the Charles C.W. Cook podcast, and Rich Lowry, editor-in-chief of National Review. You can find all of their work ad-free with an NR Plus membership, which I highly recommend.
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Okay, so I'm not saying it's impossible to have a constitutional crisis, but we are not there yet. Once Trump says, I refuse, I refuse to obey the federal court order, we're closer. And certainly if we get to the point of the US Supreme Court ordering him to do something or to stop doing something and he refuses, we're there, we're there. But right now we're nowhere near there.
And the thing that is really galling, and let me take it one at a time before I get to the really galling. I'm gonna start with you on that piece, Rich. And I've been listening to some of your discussions with Andy on Trump's powers when it comes to money and the executive branch. But do you think we are now, as the media is telling us, at a constitutional crisis point?
No, no, of course not. It's just it's absurd to hear Democrats complaining about a hostile power grab of the executive branch by the chief executive who is elected to be the chief executive, who is elected to administer his administration and has every right.
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