The Nerve with Maureen Callahan
The Downward Spiral of Michelle Obama and Prince Harry, and Megyn Kelly Dishes on Diddy
Fri, 9 May 2025
In a tag team dish session, Maureen and Megyn Kelly go all in on Michelle Obama's public pity party and her attention seeking "transition." Plus, Megyn shares her Met Gala encounter with Diddy in a women's bathroom. And Maureen has the scoop on the "What Not To Wear" reboot, exposing Stacy London and Clinton Kelly's true colors.
Chapter 1: What are the latest thoughts on Michelle Obama's public image?
Hello, and welcome to the Friday edition of The Nerve. I am Maureen Callahan. I am wearing for you today my Shut Your Mouth t-shirt. Maybe you should hold your tongue and think quietly about whether you should continue that thought t-shirt, and you're going to see why in our first big discussion, which you're going to love having, I think. Okay, so coming up, we have another great show today.
We have the one and only Megyn Kelly. your friend and mine. She will be here and we are going to talk about stuff you'll never see coming. And I promise you we are not going to bang on about becoming newly minted astronauts like a certain insufferable morning show host slash Oprah appendage.
And then we will take a look at, you and I that is, at a classic reality TV makeover show that has come back as a woke adjacent, body positive, non-binary, judgment-free zone. It is the what not to wear redo as a fashion, as we discussed the other day, is such an accepting place. Okay, first, we need to talk about Michelle Obama.
We need to talk about Michelle Obama and one of the most epic, sustained midlife crises happening in the public square in quite some time. Okay, so she gave an interview the other day. You know, she's got this new podcast, and in promoting this podcast, which I – do not think is doing well.
She talks to her brother and they're not lighting the world on fire with these conversations because neither one of them are really that bright or really that interesting or original. So we have to get some eyeballs, we have to generate some headlines. And so Michelle has now been appearing on other people's podcasts.
to promote said podcast, which I think is called IMO, in my opinion, which is a terrible name. It tells me nothing. And frankly, after hearing Michelle bang on about her misery lo these many months, I don't really want to hear your opinion, Michelle. Sorry, I don't. So she goes on this guy Jay Shetty's show. And if you don't know Jay Shetty, he is this very striking looking guy.
He has these piercing blue eyes. He is something of a self-help guru. He probably clogs up your algorithm on Instagram and he married Ben and J-Lo 2.0. And that did not work out so well. So anyway, Michelle goes on Jay's podcast and she uses a very interesting word to describe what is going on in her life right now. Take a look.
And at this phase of my life, I'm in therapy right now because I'm transitioning. I'm 60 years old. I've finished a really hard thing in my life with my family intact. I'm an empty nester. My girls are in... They've been launched. And now for the first time, as I've said before, every choice that I'm making is completely mine.
I now don't have the excuse of, well, my kids need this or my husband needs that or the country needs that.
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Chapter 2: How is Michelle Obama perceived during her midlife transition?
Poor me. I was screwed over in the White House. I'm still getting screwed over. And poor brother Craig is there. Like, it's even worse than you thought, Sister Michelle. As bad as you think, you had it even worse, like her enabler, codependent brother. Her brother, frankly, seems terrified of her.
He really does. Like every time he dares to gently contradict her, she'll be like, nope, that's not the way it happened. And he'll be like, you're right. You're right. Yes.
Like when he was like, well, you know, maybe if we knew, if we knew you weren't feeling great, you know, like we guys, we would say something. And then she's like, we shouldn't have to ask. We shouldn't have to tell you, you know, snap back.
But like, you should just figure it out. She totally did. She also criticized him and men in general for the way they interpersonally relate, right? Like if they have a friendship conflict, men among men, they just sort of hash it out. They forget it. It's a bygone. It is never revisited. They never exhumed that grievance. And she's saying she thinks that's the wrong way to go in life.
Because Michelle, the master of grievances, likes to hash that shit out. She likes to beat that carcass further into the ground and she will not let go. And you have to have like a multi-day summit and then revisit that maybe months down the road. And she's saying that's the healthy way to be?
Yeah, so that's the difference between her spouse, who doesn't seem to put up with her nonsense and her endless wanting to have these talks about everything, and Meghan's spouse. Because Meghan married somebody who is not well, Meghan Markle. Prince Harry is a weak, damaged man who doesn't have the inner strength that Barack Obama has.
I mean, listen, I understand Barack Obama's faults and the vein and all. Sure. of all of that. But he doesn't have like such a tiny id the way Harry does. He doesn't really have a fundamental sense of himself. And so he was so easy for Meghan Markle to manipulate. All she needed was that first meeting. She was totally right that he would be like putty in her hands. that he would, he's too dumb.
You know, of course he bought every act. She delivered hook, line, and sinker, her little ingenue. I'm so sweet and innocent. I don't even know who the queen is. I had no idea you were a prince. And he ran with it. He was so easy to manipulate. But Barack is stronger. So Michelle has gone like further into the doldrums of like, The only thing miserable people want is to make others miserable too.
And she can't seem to do it with him. She's only gotten more angry in my opinion because she can't do it to him. He's got too big a life. He's too important to too many people. And she's not his only company.
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Chapter 3: What is the controversy surrounding Michelle Obama's use of the term 'transitioning'?
Chapter 4: What does Maureen Callahan think about Michelle's podcast success?
I mean, they create these fake dramas around them to try to, it's almost like Maureen. I remember when I was a little kid, I, might've broken a toe. I don't know. I went with it. It's broken. I'm like, I need a cast. I need crutches. You know, I couldn't wait to go to school because I loved attention. And I was like, this is gonna attract all sorts of attention to me.
Now I was still in the single digits when I did this. And now, like with my kids, I can see it happening from a mile away when they do it. They can get away with nothing. But that's how he still is. And Meghan Markle, too. Like, he needs the drama of, like, they're out to get us. They want to kill us. The press is going to lead to Meghan getting killed just like my mother.
All the stuff I just mentioned is, like, combined to create this delusional, paranoid drama. sad sack that used to be a sought after prince. And now it's just sort of like a charity case where you're like, oh, oh, oh.
it's it's it's you're so right about that sort of arrested behavior you know i think william one of the healthiest things he did part of him falling in love with catherine princess of wales i really think had to do with her family of origin and they were intact and they were loving and they seemed to have a very healthy emotional sort of relationship amongst all of all of them and he was very attracted to that
And I think he found that normalcy and that groundedness and the things that, you know, he was maybe lacking given his birthright. And Harry, meanwhile, was just left to stew in it. And I think the thing, too, that you're saying is so right on and it's so perverse because like in that BBC interview, he was bragging that like on the on the threat hit list, he's number one. Yeah, right, sure.
I would not be bragging about that. If a government agency came to me and said, you know what, Maureen, suddenly, for whatever reason, you're like at the top of the list of people who are going to be like in grave danger, I would be like, let me not- Now that you're an astronaut. Let me not publicize that, right? Like that doesn't seem bright. Right.
No, I've never seen somebody so anxious to disclose his alleged security threats. I mean, it is strange. Like I actually had a very, very dark period when I first became a journalist where I developed a very bad stalker. I was, nobody knew who I was. I was on the weekend shifts on Fox, but I happened to be the one person.
Whoa, nobody knew. You weren't that famous yet.
Not at all, not at all. But you just happened to be the one person who developed this very dangerous stalker. And now I talk about it. That's 20 years ago, right? That's a long resolve. The guy went to jail for 10 years. But at the time, I would rather be caught dead. I was like...
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