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The Megyn Kelly Show

Trump's Accessibility, Portnoy's Battle, and Dangers of AI Robots, with Chamath Palihapitiya and Jason Calacanis of All-In | Ep. 1067

Wed, 7 May 2025

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Megyn Kelly opens the show by discussing the disgusting “F the Jews” sign that was paraded around a Barstool Sports bar in Philadelphia, how Dave Portnoy dealt with the controversy by offering to send the culprits to visit Auschwitz, one instigator who is now playing the victim, and more. Then Chamath Palihapitiya and Jason Calacanis, hosts of the “All-In” podcast, join to discuss the antisemitic student playing the victim over the incident in Dave Portnoy’s Barstool Sports bar, what effects social media has on youth and cancel culture, Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg wanting to create AI “friends,” why social media can be destructive for children’s development and social lives, issues with AI chatbots and their alarming effects, an AI robot freaking out and attacking its handler, if we should be concerned about the rise of "smart" robots, debating America’s economic reliance on illegal immigrants, what level of due process they should be getting before deportation, whether Trump was serious about deporting millions of illegals, why Trump’s accessibility has transformed his administration, the differences between this and the Biden administration, Trump's embrace of many points of view, and more. Jason: https://www.launch.co/Chamath: https://allin.com/Riverbend Ranch: Visit https://riverbendranch.com/ | Use promo code MEGYN for $20 off your first order.Ground News: Use the link https://groundnews.com/megyn to get 40% off the Vantage subscription to see through mainstream media narratives.Byrna: Go to https://Byrna.com and order their all new Compact Launcher.Tax Network USA: Call 1-800-958-1000 or visit https://TNUSA.com/MEGYN to speak with a strategist for FREE todayFollow The Megyn Kelly Show on all social platforms:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/MegynKellyTwitter: http://Twitter.com/MegynKellyShowInstagram: http://Instagram.com/MegynKellyShowFacebook: http://Facebook.com/MegynKellyShow Find out more information at: https://www.devilmaycaremedia.com/megynkellyshow 

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Chapter 1: What happened with the 'F the Jews' sign at Barstool Sports?

0.831 - 32.551 Chamath Palihapitiya

Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, a big news day with Joe Biden finally sitting down for an interview and Trump continuing to take on everyone. But we have got to begin with an update on what is going on with Dave Portnoy and an anti-Semitic incident that happened at a bar he owns in Philly over the weekend.

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33.231 - 53.389 Chamath Palihapitiya

Here's what we know. When you order bottle service at the bar, you get to also write on a sign for the whole bar to see. As you can see, some idiots put the phrase, forgive me, fuck the Jews on the sign. The viral went video on social media and Portnoy, who is Jewish, was irate, although I always feel like that's irrelevant.

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53.549 - 59.995 Chamath Palihapitiya

I would go irate too, and I'm not Jewish, but it does become relevant to the story that the fact that he is Jewish, we'll get to it.

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60.655 - 82.063 Chamath Palihapitiya

So he launched an investigation and says that he fired the two employees who allowed that sign to go forward and said that he was sending the two customers responsible for the sign, volunteering to send them to the Nazi concentration camp Auschwitz so they could learn a thing or two about the terrible consequences of anti-Jewish propaganda. Sounds like a positive outcome, right?

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82.783 - 104.733 Chamath Palihapitiya

Portnoy wasn't trying to like ruin their lives. I don't even think he was mentioning the one guy's name. He just wanted, you know, a good outcome and he thought this would be a way to do it. And he was getting warned that there was no reforming somebody who would request that as their words on a sign. But he, you know, took a chance.

105.273 - 138.258 Chamath Palihapitiya

Well, one of the two customers, a man now identified as 21 year old Temple University student. Maybe Temple has suspended him. Mo Khan, K-H-A-N, says he was not responsible for the sign and merely videotaped the sign and then posted it to his own social media as a, quote, citizen journalist. He now has fought back with his own series of videos on social, claiming he is the victim here. Watch.

139.616 - 162.379 Mo Khan

Dave Portnoy sensationalized it to his 9.2 million followers on Instagram and X, essentially turning it into a global news story. Although I had nothing to do with the sign coming out, nor do I know who did it, I know that the sign was provocative because it reminded people a lot of the unjust things that Israel is doing around the world, thus leading me to report on it.

162.899 - 186.401 Mo Khan

Dave Porno and his friends can choose to be triggered over the sentiments of that sign and even kick me out of the establishment forever. However, they have no right to destroy my life over free speech and ultimately something that was an edgy joke. Frankly, they're more worried about destroying and uprooting me than the thousands of people getting destroyed and uprooted in genocide.

186.881 - 210.39 Mo Khan

That sign had no effects in terms of killing any Jews. However, Israel kills thousands of people on a daily basis. Dave Portnoy and the greater Jewish community are acting as if they are the victims when this whole time, I am the victim. Dave has built a reputation, a career, and a business solely focused on the anti-cancel culture.

Chapter 2: How did Dave Portnoy handle the anti-Semitic incident?

1516.333 - 1519.214 Chamath Palihapitiya

Very early. What do we think? Is this something to be celebrated?

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1520.315 - 1538.682 Jason Calacanis

I mean, Chamath worked with Zuck, so I'll let him do that. But, you know, I've never liked Zuck. And the reason people have three friends is because Zuckerberg created Facebook and Instagram and got everybody addicted to this stuff. So now he's saying you should have 15 friends I use social media and champion kids using social media.

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1538.722 - 1560.947 Jason Calacanis

I fought against any age gating or regulations against it tooth and nail. Instagram and Facebook causing all of this eating disorders in girls and insecurity and all kinds of problems. And now he wants to take the three friends that are left out of 15 you should have and replace them with AI. This is the worst possible person to take any friendship, social advice from.

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1561.887 - 1582.677 Jason Calacanis

And kids should not be in all seriousness on things like character AI or what he's proposing here because they will disconnect and they will lose the skill of connecting with other humans, which we're seeing in a generation of boys and men who are what's called incels. They play video games. They get disconnected from other humans. Girls spend too much time on Instagram.

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1582.857 - 1606.763 Jason Calacanis

They get disconnected from friendship. And this generation doesn't know how to actually go on a date or ask a girl on a date or have a relationship because they're so used to liking things and how many retweets did they get, how many likes did they get, and playing video games and how many levels they did. He caused half this problem himself. Terrible person to listen to. Chamath, over to you.

1608.857 - 1642.78 Chamath Palihapitiya

I think that society sort of swings back and forth between poles. When Mark and I were working together in 2006, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, and we were building Facebook, the pole that we were at, or we were moving towards, sorry, was one that was about creating more connection. And what I honestly think is people have realized that social media is an incredible business model. It's an incredible business.

1643.681 - 1668.278 Chamath Palihapitiya

But it's not necessarily something that is great for everybody day to day in an emotional way. Like when you... That famous thing when you ask people who are dying, what are their biggest regrets? One of their biggest regrets is just that they didn't choose to be happy and spend more time with their family and their friends. That's a very physical, tactile experience.

1668.559 - 1692.417 Chamath Palihapitiya

What I see, at least in my own experience, is that young people have realized this innately. I sent my second kid to high school, or they're about to go into high school. They're rising freshmen. And we did the onboarding. And I remember this. This was last week. It was so vivid. The teachers presented what the kids thought on a whole bunch of different topics.

1693.779 - 1717.297 Chamath Palihapitiya

The topic that the kids were the most negative on was social media. And when I look at what my children do now, and this just could be my children, but I don't think so because it's emblematic of our school, which I think will be emblematic of what most other schools will eventually look like. I think they're a bit of the leading edge, but they don't use this stuff nearly in the same way.

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