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Dems Try To Buy a New Joe Rogan, and Deadly Anti-Israel Terror Attack in D.C, with Michael Knowles and Ana Kasparian | Ep. 1078

Thu, 22 May 2025

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Megyn Kelly begins the show by discussing the tragic terror attack resulting in two young Israeli Embassy aides killed in Washington D.C., details about the anti-Israel shooter, the media's refusal to link violent anti-Israel rhetoric and this violent attack, and more. The Daily Wire's Michael Knowles to discuss the deadly D.C. shooting, the left’s disturbing habit of siding with certain perpetrators over victims, the real dangers of “Free Palestine” rhetoric in the face of this violence, the media’s ongoing ridiculous reaction to Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson’s book, Thompson reporting Biden campaign staff was actually shocked by how easily the media accepted their lying spin, how legacy media abandoned their duty to hold power accountable, Nicolle Wallace’s hypocrisy, and more. Then Ana Kasparian, host and executive producer of The Young Turks, joins to discuss the dysfunction of the Democratic party, the establishment left’s attempt to manufacture a new "Joe Rogan," their failure to recognize that voters prioritize the authenticity, how the Dem elite used identity politics to derail Bernie Sanders’ populist movement, Bernie’s pushback now against identity politics and Democrats subverting democracy on Andrew Schulz' show, Jake Tapper's vague answer over whether he'll allow Biden admin officials who lied to him and the American people back on his show, a new male high school athlete beating a dominant female athlete in California, Governor Gavin Newsom’s admission that the situation is unfair while refusing to take any action to address it, and more. Knowles- https://www.dailywire.com/Kasparian- https://kasparian.substack.com/ Birch Gold: Text MK to 989898 and get your free info kit on goldEverglades Foundation: Learn more about President Trump’s Everglades support project at https://www.EvergladesFoundation.orgByrna: Go to https://Byrna.com and order their all new Compact Launcher.Just Thrive: Visit https://justthrivehealth.com/discount/Megyn and use code MEGYN to save 20% sitewide Follow The Megyn Kelly Show on all social platforms:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/MegynKellyTwitter: http://Twitter.com/MegynKellyShowInstagram: http://Instagram.com/MegynKellyShowFacebook: http://Facebook.com/MegynKellyShow Find out more information at: https://www.devilmaycaremedia.com/megynkellyshow

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Chapter 1: What happened during the deadly D.C. shooting?

0.831 - 32.302 Megyn Kelly

Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. I'm Megan Kelly. Welcome to The Megan Kelly Show. Two young Israeli embassy staffers murdered by an anti-Israel man yelling a chant heard for years now on liberal college campuses and streets of major cities. Free, free Palestine. Also, there is only one solution. Intifada revolution.

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32.987 - 57.406 Megyn Kelly

It happened last night around 9 p.m. outside the Jewish Museum in Washington, D.C. According to eyewitnesses, the alleged gunman, Elias Rodriguez, was seen sitting calmly on a bench outside of the event and then pacing back and forth. He approached a group of people leaving the museum and shot two of them at close range. Rodriguez then calmly walked back inside the museum.

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58.126 - 73.204 Megyn Kelly

And in the chaos of the scene, people initially thought he was a victim. One witness saying the shooter said, I did it. I did it for Gaza. Free, free Palestine. Another witness described those moments to Fox 5 local in DC.

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74.985 - 94.726 Eyewitness

I did see somebody run in. The security guard happened to let this guy in. I guess they were thinking that he was a victim. And he was covered in rain. He was clearly in trauma. He was in shock. And some of the people at the event brought him water. They sat him down. Are you okay? Were you shot? What happened? He's like, He's like, somebody call the cops, bring the cops in.

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94.746 - 111.835 Eyewitness

So about 10 minutes later, when the cops actually came in, he put his hands up. He grabbed a red coffee out of his pocket and started the Free Palestine chants. You know, there's only one solution and to fight a revolution. And he was being dragged out of the building as he was yelling Free Palestine.

112.637 - 163.917 Megyn Kelly

while he was being arrested, the shooter could again be heard screaming free Palestine. And it was caught on tape. That video there from Yuval David. The victims were 28-year-old Yaron Lashinsky and his girlfriend, Sarah Milgram. Yaron reportedly had apparently planned to propose to Sarah next week during a trip to Jerusalem. awful. Here's what we know about the suspect. He's 30 years old.

164.157 - 183.625 Megyn Kelly

He's got an online biography that says he was born and raised in Chicago. His LinkedIn profile says he graduated from the University of Illinois, Chicago. The Daily Mail and New York Post report that in the past, Rodriguez was involved in activism with the Party for Socialism and Liberation, not to mention Black Lives Matter. The

184.045 - 203.867 Megyn Kelly

The Party for Socialism is a far-left group that regularly posts anti-Israel rhetoric. The group confirmed Rodriguez's membership online, but distanced itself from the shooting, stating, we have nothing to do with the shooting and do not support it. Cool. However, a few hours earlier, the group had tweeted, the world will not forget the crimes of the U.S. and Israel.

205.188 - 234.697 Megyn Kelly

In 2017, this guy participated in a BLM led protest regarding the 2014 police involved shooting of Laquan McDonald and Chicago's efforts to bring Amazon's headquarters to the city. The sign Rodriguez held up said red money for people's needs, not Amazon. In an interview, Rodriguez said whitening of Seattle is structurally racist and a direct danger to all workers who live in that city. Wow.

Chapter 2: Who is the alleged shooter and what is his background?

235.655 - 255.588 Megyn Kelly

According to the Jerusalem Post, Rodriguez made a political donation to the Joe Biden campaign in 2020. A short time ago, Ken Klippenstein, an independent journalist who used to work for The Intercept, posted to his own website Rodriguez's alleged manifesto. Please understand, these sometimes turn out to be not the manifesto.

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256.448 - 278.458 Megyn Kelly

But in it, Klippenstein writes, quote, I am publishing it here not to glorify the violence, but so the public can better understand the truth of what happened. I believe that sunlight is the best disinfectant, especially when politics is involved, as the document makes clear is the case here. That's Klippenstein. But the alleged manifesto. Again, heavy caveat here.

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278.659 - 295.19 Megyn Kelly

I've covered so many of these damn fucking shootings, and we often turn out to have what's allegedly a manifesto, and it's not the manifesto. In any event, this one reads, take it for what it's worth, public opinion has shifted against the genocidal apartheid state, and the American government has simply shrugged.

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295.21 - 317.376 Megyn Kelly

They'll do without public opinion then, criminalize it where they can, suffocate it with bland reassurances, blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm not reading more of this. You get the idea. He was very anti-Israel. And his own statements on site made that pretty clear. Before we welcome our guest, Michael Knowles, to talk about this story, there was an extraordinary moment on CNN this morning.

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318.097 - 339.266 Megyn Kelly

Another eyewitness to the shooting went on to describe what he saw. And he had a blunt take on the shooting and how it ties into what we've seen on so many of these college campuses. And would you just watch the anchor revolt? You can see she's very uncomfortable with him making this tie. What a shock. Watch this.

339.847 - 358.496 Unknown Speaker

As you go forward, as you go forward with what you have seen, can you give us any sense? Because you said you looked the shooter in the eyes. Can you give us any sense of what you saw in him as he was sort of getting help and people were tending to him as if he, too, was a victim of seeing this?

359.684 - 376.944 Unknown Speaker

Yeah, it would be clear. I like heard out that part because we were in a secure room when he initially walked in. I just saw him screaming and then being handcuffed. But what I saw in his eyes, I mean, I went to Columbia for grad school and I saw the same thing in his eyes as I saw in the eyes of all the protesters at Columbia. Nothing different between him and them.

379.306 - 387.917 Unknown Speaker

But they did not create this horrific shooting. They did not, you know, sort of, they didn't shoot.

387.977 - 397.189 Unknown Speaker

They created, they gave permission. They gave the permission. And they've called for this. They have called for intifada revolution, which is the same thing he yelled last night.

Chapter 3: What connections are being made between rhetoric and violence?

635.0 - 638.442 Michael Moynihan

You know, this is the conclusion of the free Palestine stuff.

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639.281 - 664.612 Michael Moynihan

talked about this on my show yesterday or two days ago i mean really spooky timing i said i'm sorry i just can't get on board with the free palestine movement because i've yet to hear a coherent argument as to how what they want makes any sense i've yet to hear a coherent argument that the state of israel is not justified in going to war in gaza or even continuing the war because the hostages are still being held

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665.152 - 687.5 Michael Moynihan

I've yet to hear a coherent argument for bringing this movement into the right wing coalition. And I know that there are some people who are a little more favorable to the Free Palestine thing, but I said just as a basic matter of political coalitions. The free Palestine movement is led by frothing leftist lunatics who are inclined toward violence.

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688.12 - 706.637 Michael Moynihan

The free Palestine movement is led by Greta Thunberg and the Columbia graduate students and Islamists. Somehow the Islamists are the most sensible people in the movement. That's not a good sign. And so it just doesn't make any sense. And it doesn't take a genius. It doesn't take a political philosopher to realize.

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707.398 - 725.389 Michael Moynihan

that the logical conclusion of revolution, revolution, intifada, from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free, blot out the Jews in the Middle East. It doesn't take a genius to recognize that when people who are already inclined toward violence in politics state those things, you're going to get political violence.

726.823 - 748.93 Megyn Kelly

Not to mention, you know, CNN, that one reporter, he interviewed Taylor Lorenz. They're laughing about Luigi, like he's been lionized over there. Not to mention they had Caitlin Collins out there promoting his crowdfund link. Um, you know, maybe now might be a time to be a little bit more careful in, in how you handle these stories.

749.09 - 773.036 Megyn Kelly

It's possible you've made, you've been a little too slow to connect these messages to resulting violence, right? You've been a little too quick to fan the flames, um, of, of, or to tamp down the flames, connecting all this rhetoric and then resulting violence. I just, Like CNN, I don't know what they're doing over there, but it's not journalism. She immediately pivoted.

773.056 - 795.202 Megyn Kelly

Why don't you just get his story? Get his testimonial. This is how he feels. Shut the fuck up with your justifications of what we're hearing on college campuses. It's so annoying to me that he just watched two people get shot to death. He's upset. He's drawing a comparison to the rhetoric he's been hearing for two years now on college campuses. Let him have his say, Sarah.

795.622 - 798.804 Megyn Kelly

It's not for you to try to cleanse his opinions.

Chapter 4: How do the media react to the shooting and its implications?

1144.107 - 1154.437 Representative Jayapal

We deny them all the time and we'll revoke them. You revoked a visa based on an op-ed and then you allowed for masked men to snatch somebody off the street.

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1154.717 - 1156.198 Unknown Speaker

That's your claim. That's not accurate.

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1158.792 - 1178.887 Megyn Kelly

I mean, Michael, honestly, even if it is accurate, like, OK, you know, she's made a position clear. He's the secretary of state. He's not real pro on the, you know, divest from Israel or else crowd. And we've seen what they do. We watched what happened on Columbia University's campus with that same crowd.

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1179.288 - 1186.173 Megyn Kelly

You may not like it, but that is consistent with the president's policy when it comes to supporting Israel. So sorry.

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1187.711 - 1207.398 Michael Moynihan

The only problem with the president's policy, as far as I can tell, is that it's not broad enough. I also want some of these foreigners ejected for being anti-Christian, for being anti-American, for being... Because, you know, Pramila Jayapal, again, I have to ask, if you're a little confused on this issue, do you think you're on the side of Pramila Jayapal?

1207.718 - 1225.789 Michael Moynihan

Do you generally side with her on political issues? If you don't, chances are you're probably not on her side when it comes to this issue either. But what is... What is she saying? She's saying that people have some kind of right. Foreign nationals have some right to be here and use our resources and benefit from our country's generosity. Why?

1226.129 - 1242.962 Michael Moynihan

Well, when you really dig down deep in this leftist ideology, it gets down to the notion that America is bad and we owe something to everyone else and we have no right to this land. We have no right to our own country. We have no right to sovereignty. We have no right to decide who comes in and who goes. And that's just not true.

1243.562 - 1262.674 Michael Moynihan

The question that we should ask when it comes to immigration fundamentally is, do the people who are coming here benefit our country or not? When it comes to Columbia graduate students flying around from all over the world, most of the time the answer is no. And so we don't need to To get much deeper than that. Do they benefit our country? No. Get them out.

1263.414 - 1277.619 Megyn Kelly

Get out. Right. We just haven't been doing it. So now we're going to start doing it. Good. I stand by Marco Rubio when he says he's going to do more. Here's Representative Ilhan Omar, who hasn't posted a single thing on X.

Chapter 5: What are the Democrats' strategies in response to current events?

2642.978 - 2661.853 Michael Moynihan

But the advantage of having all that disagreement on the right is the truth tends to get out a little bit. We're not so in lockstep. We're not so married to a single ideology that you could see a political event occur right before your eyes and deny it and have that denial enforced by all the powerful institutions that the Democrats have taken over.

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2662.708 - 2684.125 Megyn Kelly

And not only does the left control the media, I mean, everything except the digital lane and Fox, but they control all of the media. But, of course, they control so many of our cultural institutions like Hollywood, not to mention our financial institutions, which largely lean very, very left. We've seen that with all the woke investing. That's been a disaster over the past five years. Sports.

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2684.145 - 2684.825 Michael Moynihan

The universities. Yeah.

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2685.826 - 2708.622 Megyn Kelly

And music, music, which is something we don't talk about that often. I don't know if you saw this Bruce Springsteen rant against the president. He's as far left as they come. And by the way, he has really lost his talent. I'm not saying it just to be mean. It's true. He can't sing anymore. Someone needs to give him the gentle tap on the shoulder and tell him it's time to exit screen stage left.

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2709.723 - 2724.761 Megyn Kelly

Here he is in just a bit clip from Manchester, England on May 14th, At a concert, people are trying to hear Bruce Springsteen music. Who gives two dams what he thinks about President Trump? But he's got to launch into it. Watch.

2726.602 - 2740.788 Bruce Springsteen

In my home, the America I love, the America I've written about, there has been a beacon of hope that liberty for 250 years is currently in the hands of a corrupt democracy.

2745.373 - 2747.717 Megyn Kelly

corrupt, incompetent and treasonous administration.

2748.177 - 2760.856 Bruce Springsteen

We ask all who believe in democracy and the best of our American experience to rise with us, raise your voices against authoritarianism and let freedom reign.

2763.504 - 2780.266 Megyn Kelly

Okay. First of all, you're in England, so get a grip. They're not rising up against us at all. We rose up against them and found our independence, Bruce. I got to show you the Trump response, which is just perfect. It's a little AI manipulated video. Let's roll it. I'll just describe it for the listening audience.

Chapter 6: What are the perspectives on the Free Palestine movement?

4215.41 - 4228.697 Unknown Speaker

We have a question we want to ask about what happened to you in 2016 with this Bernie Bros movement where your followers are seeing they have a racism problem, a misogyny problem. Do you think that's a super PAC thing behind that? No, it was the Democratic establishment.

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4228.877 - 4239.1 Unknown Speaker

Oh, wow. Okay. They were sitting there. We had a lot of young people. We had people of color. And they create this kind of myth with the help of the corporate media and all that stuff.

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4239.42 - 4262.553 Unknown Speaker

You know, it's kind of interesting to that note is during this election, the podcast space, which the Democrats largely avoided, they feel had some influence in the election. And they started to label us the podcast bros. And said that we were sexist and we were racist and bigoted. It's almost like it's the exact same strategy to get you out of there.

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4263.494 - 4266.217 Unknown Speaker

Yeah, that's what the liberal elite trying to does.

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4267.499 - 4275.388 Megyn Kelly

And then I'll give you one more because he followed up on no one wants to keep doing this identity politics thing anymore. It's not 21.

4276.286 - 4296.7 Unknown Speaker

And then you get to what we call identity politics. You're black, you're wonderful, you're tremendous, you're gay, you're the greatest human being on earth. And rather than say, what do you stand for? Gay, that's fine, who cares? But what do you stand for? Is every gay person brilliant and wonderful and great? No, of course not. Everybody's a human being.

4297.64 - 4317.895 Unknown Speaker

So the issue is what you stand for, which gets you back to what we discussed earlier, class politics, in the sense of which side are you on? Are you going to stand with working families? Are you going to raise the minimum wage to a living wage or not? Are you going to fight to guarantee health care to all people or not?

4318.275 - 4327.382 Unknown Speaker

Are you going to demand that the wealthiest people start paying their fair share of taxes or not? Those are the issues. No one cares what color you are, what your gender is, et cetera, et cetera.

4327.583 - 4327.923 Megyn Kelly

Go ahead, Anna.

Chapter 7: How does celebrity culture intersect with politics?

4838.646 - 4852.602 Andrew Klavan

Parkinsonism makes you lose the ability to write your name very often. They would have a perfect defense there just by saying, you know what, the president no longer could sign his name, so he had to use the auto pen. He approved every single one of these pardons. We don't know what happened.

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4853.82 - 4878.049 Megyn Kelly

Okay, so the other thing that's very interesting about that, Anna, is we had a doctor on the program, Samadhi, David Samadhi, who is like the prostate cancer surgeon to go to, if you get this. And he said the fact that that initial statement said that the cancer is responsive, it's hormone responsive, means they've tried it. Because he said, you don't know that until you've actually given

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4879.069 - 4901.244 Megyn Kelly

I think ADT, the thing that blocks the testosterone. There is no way they could say it's responsive to hormone treatment without having given it to him and seeing the PSA test numbers go down, down, down. So all of that I think is actual, like that's as close as we're going to get to real evidence that he is still lying to us. And so I love your thoughts on that.

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4901.264 - 4925.139 Megyn Kelly

And then also on, there's more chatter in the times about how, sorry, this is from the bulwark saying every Democrat from now on is gonna have to be under the age of 70. And they're all gonna have to show their colonoscopy exams. It's gonna have to be full revelation in order for anybody to become the next nominee.

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4926.581 - 4949.286 Ana Kasparian

I don't think that's fair. I wouldn't implement a policy like that. But as I was listening to you talk about the likelihood of Biden having known about his condition, having gone through that treatment, I couldn't help but think about all the enablers around Biden who encouraged him to run for reelection and who kept lying to all of us on television and their interviews.

4949.786 - 4971.035 Ana Kasparian

Mike Donilon, his chief strategist, happened to be one of them. Yes. And I want to just briefly talk about incentives and disincentives, because Donilon didn't care about the American people. Donilon, I would venture to say, doesn't even give a damn about the Bidens or Joe Biden, with whom he's had a relationship with for a very long time. I would venture to say that Donilon saw...

4971.795 - 4992.912 Ana Kasparian

his reelection race as a money-making opportunity. Because as we've learned from Tapper and Thompson's book, he was paid disproportionately compared to other campaign workers. He was paid, what, $4 million? $4 million. Yeah, because Biden told the campaign, pay Donilon whatever he wants. Well, he asked for $4 million and he got it.

4993.352 - 5012.51 Ana Kasparian

So if you see a money-making opportunity where you can rake in millions of dollars, would you engage in elder abuse? I would venture to say that most people would be disgusted by that and would not. But Donilon had no problem doing it. Knowing what Biden's condition was, he's very close to Biden. I don't believe for a second that Mike Donilon didn't know what Biden's condition was.

5013.22 - 5032.345 Megyn Kelly

No, no. And the reporting in the book is that he fully knew and was actively engaged in trying to cover it up. Um, here's the other question though. Does the Democrat party, you know, keep in mind we're on, we're under the auspices of, Oh my God, we're now figuring it out. Oh, so horrible. That's what, okay. This is the routine we're getting right now.

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