The Megyn Kelly Show
Unhinged Leftists Celebrate CEO Murderer and Smear Daniel Penny, and Gay Wedding Cake Update, with Heather Mac Donald, Kristen Waggoner, and Jack Phillips | Ep. 961
Tue, 10 Dec 2024
Megyn Kelly is joined by Heather Mac Donald, author of "When Race Trumps Merit," to discuss the “joy” from some leftists like Taylor Lorenz over the murder of the UnitedHealthcare CEO, how some are celebrating the alleged assassin’s act and fixating on his looks, those justifying murder as a means to addressing policy concerns, the privileged background and education of the alleged CEO murderer, what may have been his motivation and whether he was simply mentally ill, the unhinged reaction from leftists to Daniel Penny's acquittal, the smears against him despite his heroic actions, the attempts by some to make the case about race, if Pete Hegseth will make it through as Trump's Defense Secretary, whether private character concerns should have any bearing on his professional job prospects, and more. Plus Megyn Kelly discusses the details about the capture of alleged UnitedHealthcare CEO assassin Luigi Mangione at a Pennsylvania McDonald’s, the people who identified him and the employee who called 911, whether he was preparing to potentially commit more crimes, the significance of a potential back injury, and more. Then Megyn Kelly is joined by Kristen Waggoner of Alliance Defending Freedom and baker Jack Phillips to discuss his 12-year legal battle over his Christian beliefs, the Supreme Court case about the gay marriage cake, the transgender lawyer who started another legal battle with Phillips, how it's affected him and his family, what happens next with similar cases in America, and more.Mac Donald- https://www.amazon.com/When-Race-Trumps-Merit-Sacrifices/dp/1956007164Waggoner & Phillips- https://adflegal.org/campaign/jack-phillips-megyn-kelly-show/Birch Gold: Text MK to 989898 and get your free info kit on goldJoin the millions of others who are already benefiting from these powerful, bite-sized lessons. Go to https://l.prageru.com/419fE2m and sign up for free today.Done with Debt: https://www.DoneWithDebt.com/Follow The Megyn Kelly Show on all social platforms:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/MegynKellyTwitter: http://Twitter.com/MegynKellyShowInstagram: http://Instagram.com/MegynKellyShowFacebook: http://Facebook.com/MegynKellyShow Find out more information at: https://www.devilmaycaremedia.com/megynkellyshow
Chapter 1: Who is the alleged murderer of the UnitedHealthcare CEO?
Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. I'm Megan Kelly. Welcome to The Megan Kelly Show. We are getting more information now on the alleged suspect in the, well, he's the suspect and the alleged murderer of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson. Yesterday, Luigi Mangione was identified and arrested in a Pennsylvania McDonald's in the morning.
Police reported, because some people thought it was the McRib, it's come back and they didn't think he could resist going in there. A lot of people get sucked back into McDonald's thanks to this thing. It was the morning. It might have been a McMuffin.
Police reported that when they approached Mangione, who's being hailed by the left as some sort of hero for committing murder in the streets of New York and shooting a man in the back, father of two, including a 16-year-old boy. This is their new hero. You know, what a badass he is for standing up for others. Okay, you know what?
He basically peed his pants when the cops approached him in the McDonald's. He started shaking. just upon being asked the question of whether he'd recently been in New York. This guy who killed a man by shooting him in the back. That's your leftist hero. It's just so gross. Can I just say... I'm really over this nonsense. This guy's not a hero at all.
We should not be lauding his good looks, which really aren't existent, all over the internet. Tim Miller, ye of the I won't ask Doug Emhoff a single question about his alleged assault of a woman in your stupid podcast, is out there talking about how he wants to... get together with this guy, how he's, not to mention the Boston Marathon bomber. These people are fucking sick. Sorry.
They just, they're sick. And I just want to say one thing. It is today, December 10th, right? It's December 10th, 2024. It was December 15th, 1985, that my own father died. He died of a heart attack, an unexpected heart attack in our home at age 45, 10 days before Christmas. And I was a 15-year-old girl.
And it was, of course, as any sane person already can see, deeply traumatic for me and my entire family. And it's something you never get over. It changes your life in a profound way. And so this guy, Brian Thompson, had two boys. I think one was 18, one was 16, for sure, one was 16. And their father was killed three weeks before Christmas.
And these assholes are out there talking about how they want to sleep with the killer, how hot he is, what a hero he is for taking out the CEO of a company in an unpopular industry. and at some point we'll discuss why they're unpopular. As I said yesterday, now's not that time.
But I mean, good luck getting through any piece of the healthcare system without insurance, nevermind government insurance, which is the realistic alternative to the private health insurance that we get. I mean, you may think they're evil. They're a necessary evil and they actually make more procedures possible than they do deny the ones that cause people to go nuts over them.
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Chapter 2: What is the left's reaction to the CEO's murder?
I lack the language, Megan, to really describe in a sort of a Cassandra-like position what may be going on here. We all thought that there was a course correction with the Trump election, and people are saying no more with the identity-based grievance, which this is related to in a certain way. But we clearly have a very, very long road to tread here.
to get back to some kind of shared value system. I mean, the irony, you know, you mentioned the Daniel Penny, Jordan Neely verdict that this killer is being described as a hero and then an actual hero was being treated as a homicidal criminal and villain. We're living in an upside down world, at least to the extent that you live in the elite bubble ideology.
I have a lot for you on Daniel Penny today, which I will do next. But you're exactly right. I mean, I think the Trump election was a declaration that the normies are with us. We've reclaimed the normies who were leftist adjacent. you know, open-minded to self-flagellation as required by BLM and the trans activists.
Like, okay, if that's what I need to do to be a good person, I'm open, I'm listening. And now they've just been completely rejiggered to normalcy. Wait a minute. You people are the loons. We're not doing that. We're not opening the border. I'm going back with a side of reason. I think they're back with us, but it doesn't mean the loons went away.
They're still a part of the Democrat party and they're vocal and they're not giving one inch. Taylor Lorenz is one example of that, but they're all over CNN and MSNBC in the wake of Penny, which is the other big story today, saying all the things you'd expect them to say about how we've normalized vigilantism.
The same people, they see him as, we're celebrating a vigilante in the case of Penny, but on the CEO, Brian Thompson, you've got some of those same people saying right on, you know, the guy had some good points.
I don't know. Um, I hope that there's more people like Piers Morgan out there in the mainstream media that are distancing themselves from these views, because if they're not, you're allowing it to stay out there unrebutted. And it's, you know, I think Trump is under constant threat of another assassination to the extent that you whip people up. And of course, let's be fair.
You know, the left probably thinks that the right's rhetoric is just as unhinged and just as dangerous, just as apocryphal and unduly Manichean that could give rise to right-wing kooks. And, you know, there's always a risk about directly linking rhetoric to action. There should be a very, very wide berth for politically extreme rhetoric.
As long as you're not calling for violence, it's not clear that anybody that embraces a certain kind of discourse should be held responsible for somebody who acts out in the name of that discourse. So both sides view the other as engaged in completely unhinged rhetoric. Nevertheless, I don't think there's anything comparable I mean, maybe there is.
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Chapter 3: What details are known about Luigi Mangione's background?
And it's a pretty distinctive face very clearly. And they got that everywhere. So these customers and the employee had two visions of the guy in their head, with the mask and without, and apparently they saw both while he sat there at McDonald's. Why didn't he, this guy who planned this elaborate crime, why wouldn't he have changed the color of his hair, gotten into a disguise? right?
Like, hello, you still look exactly like the picture that's everywhere of you. Of course, we're going to notice you. And by the way, you're not even that far from New York. How is this a disguise? Like, I think the color of the beanie may be different. I'm not sure. But I don't get why he wasn't dressed in like a woman's wig or shaving his head and walking around with glasses and no mask.
Like, why wouldn't he have changed his look dramatically in order not to be caught? I don't totally understand that. On the subject of his alleged back pain and who he was, there was an interesting exchange, again, on CNN with RJ Martin, who lived with Luigi Mangione. at some, quote, co-living community in Hawaii.
Apparently this is some community he joined with a lot of gamers who were out there who were kind of living ragtag with one another. It's not exactly what you think your kid's going to do after he graduates with a master's degree from UPenn, but listen to R.J. Martin in Sod 8.
So when I first interviewed him before he moved in, I remember he said he had a back issue and he was hoping to get stronger in Hawaii. So he's always focused on trying. When he first came, he went on a surf lesson with other members. And unfortunately, just a basic surf lesson, he was in bed for about a week. We had to get a different bed for him that was more firm.
And I know it was really traumatic and difficult.
Did he have any conversations with you then or even afterwards about that issue? And I mean, his back, how he heard it. I mean, obviously anything to do with the insurance process of it.
You know, I don't, the only thing he ever mentioned, you know, he mentioned, oh, I need to go back to see my doctor and then I'm going to have to have a surgery. I encouraged him and brought him to yoga classes. He would do calisthenics on his own. I know he was really focused on being strong and healthy, but it also weighed on him that he knew that there was an impending surgery.
He went on to speak about whether he seemed embittered. Listen to Sat 9.
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