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The Megyn Kelly Show

Mysterious Phone Call, New Leads - Part 3 of Megyn Kelly Investigates: Baby Lisa's Disappearance | Ep. 1024

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They were trying to locate the cell phones by the pings on the cell phone towers geographically. You know, when they do their triangulation, it's not specific. It came out to an area that's a large wooded area, which did receive quite a bit of interest from law enforcement. They did a couple of searches there for Missouri Missing as well with citizens in that area.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Bizarre Group Chat Details, Media Compares Trump to Nixon, and MK Media Launch, with Walter Kirn and Matt Taibbi | Ep. 1034

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That is a practice that preceded the current administration to the Biden administration. I've got a series of questions. I... Oh, you don't want to hear that. If you're making the statement, the signal is a secure channel. To be clear, in the signal message group, we're entirely permissible and lawful and did not include classified information.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Bizarre Group Chat Details, Media Compares Trump to Nixon, and MK Media Launch, with Walter Kirn and Matt Taibbi | Ep. 1034

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I've seen conflicting reports about who added the reporter to the signal messaging group.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Bizarre Group Chat Details, Media Compares Trump to Nixon, and MK Media Launch, with Walter Kirn and Matt Taibbi | Ep. 1034

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I was. Thank you. Thank you. Can I provide some context, Senator, to that? Yes, but I've got a series of questions. But I think it's important because at the outset, you made a couple of comments about Signal messaging using encrypted apps so that we're clear.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Bizarre Group Chat Details, Media Compares Trump to Nixon, and MK Media Launch, with Walter Kirn and Matt Taibbi | Ep. 1034

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One of the first things that happened when I was confirmed as CIA director was Signal was loaded onto my computer at the CIA, as it is for most CIA officers. One of the things that I was briefed on very early, Senator, was by the CIA records management folks about the use of signal as a permissible work use. It is.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Absurd Signalgate Spin, NPR Exec Grilled, and Biggest Media Hacks in America, with Ruthless Podcast Hosts | Ep. 1036

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It's the kind of turn that would make Nancy Kerrigan wish she could do it. I mean, it was a full double axel, triple toe loop. The guy in 24 hours was so esteemed and he's never going to do it because of principle. And then he's like, you know what?

The Megyn Kelly Show

Absurd Signalgate Spin, NPR Exec Grilled, and Biggest Media Hacks in America, with Ruthless Podcast Hosts | Ep. 1036

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And he did that on a morning show on CNN. And so what I like to think about is what your typical CNN viewer did for the rest of the day after learning that information. Their day did not start off on the right foot when they found out that Donald Trump, the guy they hate so much, is actually very, very popular.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Absurd Signalgate Spin, NPR Exec Grilled, and Biggest Media Hacks in America, with Ruthless Podcast Hosts | Ep. 1036

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I remember the TED talk she gave where she was trying to explain why truth doesn't matter, why leftist ideals are more important than truth. Yeah.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Absurd Signalgate Spin, NPR Exec Grilled, and Biggest Media Hacks in America, with Ruthless Podcast Hosts | Ep. 1036

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what the yeah this it this is not extemporanea she practiced that speech 37 000 times in front of the mirror so she could deliver it with that cadence and the in fact folks with that hushed tone this it's like the worst hr person in corporate america showed up in your office and they're telling you why you have to shut your computer down right but

The Megyn Kelly Show

Absurd Signalgate Spin, NPR Exec Grilled, and Biggest Media Hacks in America, with Ruthless Podcast Hosts | Ep. 1036

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No, they're living in a bubble with viewers like you and the members of the Paul R. and John D. MacArthur Foundation that are right alongside the rest of us as we contribute at Gunpoint every April.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Absurd Signalgate Spin, NPR Exec Grilled, and Biggest Media Hacks in America, with Ruthless Podcast Hosts | Ep. 1036

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I'm making it tough for you. Did you say cucumber? Yeah, you're such a fucking hypocrite.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Absurd Signalgate Spin, NPR Exec Grilled, and Biggest Media Hacks in America, with Ruthless Podcast Hosts | Ep. 1036

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Man, it's so hard to disagree with that. It is. I would say that Kamala deserves special points for doing it on a national stage. When you know everyone is watching. Right. Yeah.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Absurd Signalgate Spin, NPR Exec Grilled, and Biggest Media Hacks in America, with Ruthless Podcast Hosts | Ep. 1036

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About a third of what Democrats lost on Kamala Harris. And I will tell you that I think. that this woman will be the governor of California. I think she is going to run. And I think that Californians are looking for a step up from Gavin Newsom. And I think they found their candidate. I think she's going to be the governor.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Absurd Signalgate Spin, NPR Exec Grilled, and Biggest Media Hacks in America, with Ruthless Podcast Hosts | Ep. 1036

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Yeah, I think that's right. Yeah, no, I think that's exactly right. You look back at what did Joe Biden do when it comes to the Houthi terrorists? He took them off the terrorist list. What did Pete Hegseth do? He killed them. And so this is exactly what people voted for. They wanted action out of this president's what Trump told people he was going to do. He came in and he started acting.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Absurd Signalgate Spin, NPR Exec Grilled, and Biggest Media Hacks in America, with Ruthless Podcast Hosts | Ep. 1036

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I was just going to say, I grew up in a very small town. We had a 4th of July parade every year, and I don't remember giant corporate sponsors coming in to make people turn out for that. So I'm guessing if this parade is as popular as that one, then maybe people will still show.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Absurd Signalgate Spin, NPR Exec Grilled, and Biggest Media Hacks in America, with Ruthless Podcast Hosts | Ep. 1036

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And I mean, we talk about the mainstream media and you're saying that they don't. want the conversation to go away. Well, the one guy who's going away is this top leader at MS 13, another action that the president has taken. We talked about it a second ago, but like this guy is acting every single day in a way that voters wanted.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Absurd Signalgate Spin, NPR Exec Grilled, and Biggest Media Hacks in America, with Ruthless Podcast Hosts | Ep. 1036

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And that's why his approval rating and the right track number that everybody follows is so high. I don't know if you saw this poll from Marist just this week, it showed that the right track number is higher than it's been in 20 years. And Democrats are scrambling. And when you say Democrats, you have to include the mainstream media in that group of people.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Absurd Signalgate Spin, NPR Exec Grilled, and Biggest Media Hacks in America, with Ruthless Podcast Hosts | Ep. 1036

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They're also scrambling, trying to figure out what they can do to get out from under Trump's popularity and just incredible start in these first two months.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Trump's Instant Action on Illegal Immigration, CNN Cuts, and Obama Divorce Rumblings, with Ruthless Podcast Hosts | Ep. 990

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Yeah, I think the way I described it on our episode on Ruthless today was 2017 was like a pop quiz, you know, where you're putting together the airplane while you're taking off. But this is more like a take-home test. We know what to expect from the other side. We know what the deep state's going to try to do to stop Donald Trump.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Trump's Instant Action on Illegal Immigration, CNN Cuts, and Obama Divorce Rumblings, with Ruthless Podcast Hosts | Ep. 990

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All those executive orders written in a way to be legally just and their strategy is just so much better. And it's just it's just proof. And you sort of said it at the top, Megan. But like personnel is policy. If you want to accomplish all these things, you have to recruit well for the positions that are open. Yeah.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Trump's Instant Action on Illegal Immigration, CNN Cuts, and Obama Divorce Rumblings, with Ruthless Podcast Hosts | Ep. 990

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Go ahead, go ahead, Duncan. He doesn't have to couch it in some philosophical term or some beautiful poetry or language. He just speaks in the plain terms that Americans understand. Nonsense. This is nonsense.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Trump's Instant Action on Illegal Immigration, CNN Cuts, and Obama Divorce Rumblings, with Ruthless Podcast Hosts | Ep. 990

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I think the thing that's really interesting there on like DEI or like critical race theory or transgender ideology and all of these things, I think the idea that these were, you know, a divisive debate we were having in the country is entirely a manufacturing reality. you know, by academia and the media itself. I mean, I think Trump is uniting all Americans on these issues.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Trump's Instant Action on Illegal Immigration, CNN Cuts, and Obama Divorce Rumblings, with Ruthless Podcast Hosts | Ep. 990

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I think we were united all along. I think the only people- But afraid to talk. Right. The only people who are ginning it up were the media who are like, well, on this side and on this side, and we're going to, you know, and it's like, no, like- You know, I think we actually talk enough about the racial trauma in America in our history books and in school and stuff.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Trump's Instant Action on Illegal Immigration, CNN Cuts, and Obama Divorce Rumblings, with Ruthless Podcast Hosts | Ep. 990

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We don't have to be, you know, having critical race theory, academic philosophy for legal scholars applied to kindergartners across this country. Right. No, I mean, it's well said.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Trump's Instant Action on Illegal Immigration, CNN Cuts, and Obama Divorce Rumblings, with Ruthless Podcast Hosts | Ep. 990

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No, no, no, no. I want him on CNN. I want him to have to go through that humiliation every single night because I think, I mean, I think complaining about your time slot on CNN is like complaining about which, which circle of hell you got sent to CNN.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Trump's Instant Action on Illegal Immigration, CNN Cuts, and Obama Divorce Rumblings, with Ruthless Podcast Hosts | Ep. 990

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Yeah. Well, and not for nothing, but like as far as due process goes, you know, everyone who's come to this country over the past four years with some B.S. asylum claim has a court date in like seven years and like seven years.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Trump's Instant Action on Illegal Immigration, CNN Cuts, and Obama Divorce Rumblings, with Ruthless Podcast Hosts | Ep. 990

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And today they beamed him into Davos so he could give that great speech. And then he just opens the floor to Q&A.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Trump's Instant Action on Illegal Immigration, CNN Cuts, and Obama Divorce Rumblings, with Ruthless Podcast Hosts | Ep. 990

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Yeah, but I think it's important to remember, Megan, that these Democrats are entirely captured by these ideological nonprofits and institutions that run the Democratic Party and finance it. And that's one of the reasons back to the Pete Hegseth thing that they chose character assassination rather than actual like foreign policy where maybe they could find some fissures in the Republican Party.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Trump's Instant Action on Illegal Immigration, CNN Cuts, and Obama Divorce Rumblings, with Ruthless Podcast Hosts | Ep. 990

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They're not actually interested in success here. They're interested in placating the billion dollar donors that run their party who care about abortion.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Trump's Instant Action on Illegal Immigration, CNN Cuts, and Obama Divorce Rumblings, with Ruthless Podcast Hosts | Ep. 990

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I can tell you, Megan, if I posted that photo, I certainly wouldn't be dating Jennifer Aniston. You'd be a dead man? I'd be a dead man.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Trump's Instant Action on Illegal Immigration, CNN Cuts, and Obama Divorce Rumblings, with Ruthless Podcast Hosts | Ep. 990

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The second gentleman. I love the idea that it wasn't the economy or the open border or like Joe Biden being a dementia patient or like you going on The View and saying, I wouldn't change anything from the last four years. That isn't the reason you lost. It was Dougie.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Trump's Instant Action on Illegal Immigration, CNN Cuts, and Obama Divorce Rumblings, with Ruthless Podcast Hosts | Ep. 990

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Well, you know, I don't think any of these films really comport with most of the electorate, if I'm being quite honest with you. I do love the idea of a transitioning cartel boss, though. I would love to know how that went down, like in the meeting with your capos and your consiglieres. Like, by the way, I want to be a woman. Like, I think that's actually pretty wild.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Trump's Instant Action on Illegal Immigration, CNN Cuts, and Obama Divorce Rumblings, with Ruthless Podcast Hosts | Ep. 990

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Yeah, right. But I mean, one movie that was actually nominated a bunch of times that I actually really enjoyed was Nosferatu, the remake of the old classic. It was fantastic. It was by that Eggers guy who did that witch movie. It's an A24 movie, which I know is a little more artsy. You see it, Megan? You see why we do this?

The Megyn Kelly Show

Trump's Instant Action on Illegal Immigration, CNN Cuts, and Obama Divorce Rumblings, with Ruthless Podcast Hosts | Ep. 990

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The reason why I bring it up is Johnny Depp's daughter, Lily Rose Depp, in that movie is fantastic and definitely should have been nominated for Best Actress, and it's a shame that she wasn't. He's not doing this ironically.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Trump's Instant Action on Illegal Immigration, CNN Cuts, and Obama Divorce Rumblings, with Ruthless Podcast Hosts | Ep. 990

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And it's sort of ironic, right? That the distribution of media and films has become so broad and so easy to access. And the Academy's focus has become so narrow and obscure.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Trump's Instant Action on Illegal Immigration, CNN Cuts, and Obama Divorce Rumblings, with Ruthless Podcast Hosts | Ep. 990

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It's a great point. Think about that. Think about how hard it was to see the Oscar films 30 years ago, but we all did. We saw the ones that got nominated. Now it's like, there's no chance. Well,

The Megyn Kelly Show

Trump's Instant Action on Illegal Immigration, CNN Cuts, and Obama Divorce Rumblings, with Ruthless Podcast Hosts | Ep. 990

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Yeah, I think the media definitely wanted to think he was a fluke, right? Oh, for sure. It was like a unique moment in time.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Trump's Instant Action on Illegal Immigration, CNN Cuts, and Obama Divorce Rumblings, with Ruthless Podcast Hosts | Ep. 990

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Yeah, and that's how they covered him. But it's undeniable now, not just his comeback to the White House, but the way in which it happened, and Ashbrook alluded to it. I mean, this guy was indicted in three jurisdictions over 40 times. He was, you know, two assassination attempts, one that put a bullet through his ear, and he overcomes all of that to be returned to the White House.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Trump's Instant Action on Illegal Immigration, CNN Cuts, and Obama Divorce Rumblings, with Ruthless Podcast Hosts | Ep. 990

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And every excuse. Yeah. You know, living a great life, very successful, playing golf every day. The desire to continue living.

The Megyn Kelly Show

RFK Confirmed, Trump Makes Kennedy Center "Hot" Again, and Unearthed Blake Lively Video, with Ruthless Podcast | Ep. 1007

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I was just going to say, I think that's a fight that the president welcomes. You know, you have these NGOs protecting their money. And the way Josh said it is exactly right. Something that started out in the right direction was corrupted by the left. And that's how you get these ridiculous things like seventy five thousand dollars for a trans musical in Ireland. I they already have Riverdance.

The Megyn Kelly Show

RFK Confirmed, Trump Makes Kennedy Center "Hot" Again, and Unearthed Blake Lively Video, with Ruthless Podcast | Ep. 1007

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I don't know. I don't know why we're supposed to be spending American taxpayer dollars for a trans musical. And every single one of these things that the left is fighting, like the surgeries in Nicaragua, we don't need a sex chain. Pay for a sex change for Nicaraguans. You know what I mean? People in North Carolina could use the money.

The Megyn Kelly Show

RFK Confirmed, Trump Makes Kennedy Center "Hot" Again, and Unearthed Blake Lively Video, with Ruthless Podcast | Ep. 1007

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Megan, the worst thing about it is that these bureaucrats are continuing to flout the law. I don't know if you saw it, but there is a story about some people working in the FBI who tipped off a bunch of Venezuelan gang members in California that ICE is coming after you. They want to remove gang members from this country. Here is the date they're going to be there.

The Megyn Kelly Show

RFK Confirmed, Trump Makes Kennedy Center "Hot" Again, and Unearthed Blake Lively Video, with Ruthless Podcast | Ep. 1007

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Here is where they're going to go. You guys should get out of there. Now, I'm telling you, like... For the Biden administration to do that, that is what we expect. But like the thought that people who are working for this government, working for taxpayers, are tipping off gang members in California and telling them that they should get out of there before ICE can move them out of the country.

The Megyn Kelly Show

RFK Confirmed, Trump Makes Kennedy Center "Hot" Again, and Unearthed Blake Lively Video, with Ruthless Podcast | Ep. 1007

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I mean, Pam Bondi has been unequivocal on this. And I hope to God she wins. And I hope to God she roots out all of these problems within our own government that exists today that are stopping the progress to keep Americans safe. And I hope Trump wins. I mean, it's it is so important that they win this fight. I think there's good news on that, Megan.

The Megyn Kelly Show

RFK Confirmed, Trump Makes Kennedy Center "Hot" Again, and Unearthed Blake Lively Video, with Ruthless Podcast | Ep. 1007

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Yeah. And Megan, I don't think he's the only one who's grateful that you put him on. I think there are people all over this country who are grateful that you gave voice to what so many people are thinking. And what happened to him is really an object lesson in how the left reacts when anybody dares to think differently than they do. Anybody questions an assumption.

The Megyn Kelly Show

RFK Confirmed, Trump Makes Kennedy Center "Hot" Again, and Unearthed Blake Lively Video, with Ruthless Podcast | Ep. 1007

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You have so many people in this country who are like, wait a minute, that doesn't make sense. Why am I not allowed to ask questions? Because you know that the best information, the best science comes from asking questions, from testing hypotheses. And this guy has done it over and over in the face of retribution from not only his own party, but his own family.

The Megyn Kelly Show

RFK Confirmed, Trump Makes Kennedy Center "Hot" Again, and Unearthed Blake Lively Video, with Ruthless Podcast | Ep. 1007

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Yeah. Yeah, I mean, there is a cottage industry of NGOs and libs, but there's also a mindset in Washington, D.C., that this money somehow belongs to them. They forget that people work so hard for what they earn, and it's taken from them at gunpoint every April 15th, and people are just hoping. that somebody in government will spend it wisely.

The Megyn Kelly Show

RFK Confirmed, Trump Makes Kennedy Center "Hot" Again, and Unearthed Blake Lively Video, with Ruthless Podcast | Ep. 1007

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That's so awesome. Yeah, I just love that so much. And think about the person who was on that call and it was like, I'm recording at CNN. I got to get you this audio. And Trump sounds like a normal person who's talking about making change in an organization. You know, he is not the first guy to fire people from the Kennedy Center. I don't know if you remember, Megan, but during covid.

The Megyn Kelly Show

RFK Confirmed, Trump Makes Kennedy Center "Hot" Again, and Unearthed Blake Lively Video, with Ruthless Podcast | Ep. 1007

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The Kennedy Center worked with their pal Nancy Pelosi to get a bailout because they said that if we don't get a bailout from taxpayers, we're not going to be able to continue to operate. And you know what happened? Right after they got that bailout from Nancy Pelosi, they fired a bunch of people in the organization who were probably sweeping up after the performances.

The Megyn Kelly Show

RFK Confirmed, Trump Makes Kennedy Center "Hot" Again, and Unearthed Blake Lively Video, with Ruthless Podcast | Ep. 1007

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And what I really hope that Donald Trump is able to do is brave life back into that building, bring some acts that people actually want to see, something that's interesting to everybody, not the same old woke stuff that we've seen out of that. Yeah, and Donald Trump has a soft spot for theater and theatricality.

The Megyn Kelly Show

RFK Confirmed, Trump Makes Kennedy Center "Hot" Again, and Unearthed Blake Lively Video, with Ruthless Podcast | Ep. 1007

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And what we've seen over the last few decades is that it hasn't been spent wisely. And Elon Musk and President Trump are doing everything they can to expose the waste, fraud and abuse that is rampant in our government.

The Megyn Kelly Show

RFK Confirmed, Trump Makes Kennedy Center "Hot" Again, and Unearthed Blake Lively Video, with Ruthless Podcast | Ep. 1007

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And if they weren't doing that right now, I mean, I shudder to think about what would be happening this year and how much more of of everybody's who's listening to this show's money that they turn in.

The Megyn Kelly Show

RFK Confirmed, Trump Makes Kennedy Center "Hot" Again, and Unearthed Blake Lively Video, with Ruthless Podcast | Ep. 1007

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It felt great, Megan. And, you know, I I wasn't nervous going into it because the entire time all I was thinking about was I cannot wait to see the looks on the reporters faces when I walk into this room. I can't wait to see him. I can't wait to see him. They opened the door and it didn't disappoint. I mean, people were literally rolling their eyes. They were laughing.

The Megyn Kelly Show

RFK Confirmed, Trump Makes Kennedy Center "Hot" Again, and Unearthed Blake Lively Video, with Ruthless Podcast | Ep. 1007

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And it was so funny because they were like, you got to be kidding me. You're coming in to ask a question. And you know what? I asked a serious question and she made serious news. Yeah, they had to report immediately. And so it was just it was a triumph. It was just a career triumph.

The Megyn Kelly Show

RFK Confirmed, Trump Makes Kennedy Center "Hot" Again, and Unearthed Blake Lively Video, with Ruthless Podcast | Ep. 1007

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Media went after this administration for courting illegal immigrants they claimed were not criminals. That's right. The question is, do you think they're out of touch with Americans demanding action on our border crisis?

The Megyn Kelly Show

RFK Confirmed, Trump Makes Kennedy Center "Hot" Again, and Unearthed Blake Lively Video, with Ruthless Podcast | Ep. 1007

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You look at that front row and it's people who represent gigantic corporations, Paramount, Comcast, Disney. They all get questions. So why can't everybody else ask a question? That's right. That's right.

The Megyn Kelly Show

RFK Confirmed, Trump Makes Kennedy Center "Hot" Again, and Unearthed Blake Lively Video, with Ruthless Podcast | Ep. 1007

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Totally. Yeah. I mean, it can happen to anybody. Again, I've had cancer, thankfully, and it was radiated in remission. But you've got to start early. You've got to go see the doctor. No guy ever wants to go to the doctor.

The Megyn Kelly Show

RFK Confirmed, Trump Makes Kennedy Center "Hot" Again, and Unearthed Blake Lively Video, with Ruthless Podcast | Ep. 1007

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But I mean, guys, especially no guy wants to go to the doctor. I mean, I'm sitting at a table full of guys who would be like, no way, honey, I'm not going to the doctor. But you you got to go. You got to bite the lip and you got to go in. You got to get the checks. You got to take it seriously because it can happen.

The Megyn Kelly Show

American Freed by Trump, John Oliver's Outrageous Segment, and Saving Your Marriage, with Stu Burguiere, and Jason and Erica Redman | Ep. 1046

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She tied for fifth in the 203 with Riley Gaines, who catapulted to conservative stardom off the back of that race. First, that's a story about how Leah Thomas prevented Riley Gaines from getting fifth place instead of fifth place. Second, those trophies look absolutely identical. So... Just so we are clear, Leah Thomas didn't take anything from Riley Gaines.

The Megyn Kelly Show

American Freed by Trump, John Oliver's Outrageous Segment, and Saving Your Marriage, with Stu Burguiere, and Jason and Erica Redman | Ep. 1046

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In fact, you could argue she gave a lot to her, as Gaines later decided to forgo dental school in order to be an activist and speaker. She now has her own advocacy center and has personally lobbied multiple state legislatures for bans, all to address the threat posed to women's sports by a woman who swam exactly as fast as she did to the literal hundredth of a second.

The Megyn Kelly Show

American Freed by Trump, John Oliver's Outrageous Segment, and Saving Your Marriage, with Stu Burguiere, and Jason and Erica Redman | Ep. 1046

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The most famous example concerns Peyton McNabb, a three-sport high school athlete who was hit in the face by a spike during a volleyball match. She suffered injuries, including a concussion, and started speaking out against the policies that allowed the trans player who spiked the ball to play.

The Megyn Kelly Show

American Freed by Trump, John Oliver's Outrageous Segment, and Saving Your Marriage, with Stu Burguiere, and Jason and Erica Redman | Ep. 1046

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A concussion is genuinely traumatic, though for what it's worth, she did go on to play softball in the spring and did pretty well, judging by her school posting this image about her making the all-conference team and a local paper pointing out she helped her team to a 5-0 start. And I'm not saying she wasn't injured. or that it didn't have some impact on her performance.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Tanko Talks, Megyn's Hidden Camera Footage - Part 5 of Megyn Kelly Investigates: Baby Lisa's Disappearance | Ep. 1026

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So now the FBI's involved. They vacuum bagged the whole house. And if my DNA was in there, like from dead skin cells, I'd be charged. It wasn't in the house.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Tanko Talks, Megyn's Hidden Camera Footage - Part 5 of Megyn Kelly Investigates: Baby Lisa's Disappearance | Ep. 1026

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They do these stories and People just trash my name. They totally trash my name. You know what I mean? I was involved with a lot of illegal activity back then.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Tanko Talks, Megyn's Hidden Camera Footage - Part 5 of Megyn Kelly Investigates: Baby Lisa's Disappearance | Ep. 1026

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So, I mean, if it's a kidnapping or, God forbid, a homicide, I don't care. I'm sticking my nose in.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Tanko Talks, Megyn's Hidden Camera Footage - Part 5 of Megyn Kelly Investigates: Baby Lisa's Disappearance | Ep. 1026

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I think, I'm not positive, but I think I met Deborah at a bar one time, the local bar.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Tanko Talks, Megyn's Hidden Camera Footage - Part 5 of Megyn Kelly Investigates: Baby Lisa's Disappearance | Ep. 1026

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I would doubt it. I don't know. But if the police are being honest about her getting a phone call from one of the Irwin's phones, then somebody's connection is connected. That just kind of makes sense.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Tanko Talks, Megyn's Hidden Camera Footage - Part 5 of Megyn Kelly Investigates: Baby Lisa's Disappearance | Ep. 1026

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Whatever she wanted to hear. I didn't tell her I found those phones. I said I found phones that night, but I didn't find it.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Tanko Talks, Megyn's Hidden Camera Footage - Part 5 of Megyn Kelly Investigates: Baby Lisa's Disappearance | Ep. 1026

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Oh, why? Because she's asking a million questions and I didn't want to make her happy, whatever.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Tanko Talks, Megyn's Hidden Camera Footage - Part 5 of Megyn Kelly Investigates: Baby Lisa's Disappearance | Ep. 1026

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And we didn't know if the phones were missing. I don't know if that's found to fix it. I have no clue.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Tanko Talks, Megyn's Hidden Camera Footage - Part 5 of Megyn Kelly Investigates: Baby Lisa's Disappearance | Ep. 1026

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You know what? The FBI asked me the same question. I'm like, the only thing I can come up with is to sell it to maybe somebody that can't have kids. You know, I mean, it sounds crazy, but I think that all of this, that's the best case scenario that could even happen. That kid is 11, now 13, in a school, you know, has a rich family, you know, something like that.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Tanko Talks, Megyn's Hidden Camera Footage - Part 5 of Megyn Kelly Investigates: Baby Lisa's Disappearance | Ep. 1026

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I don't know. People, I don't see it happening. But not anything's possible.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Tanko Talks, Megyn's Hidden Camera Footage - Part 5 of Megyn Kelly Investigates: Baby Lisa's Disappearance | Ep. 1026

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You know what? I was thinking the Penriths have something to do with it, because they hired all these lawyers, high-priced death penalty lawyers. What was the other thing? No, the story just don't shower. She got drunk and fell asleep, woke up. Baby's not. Is that the salary?

The Megyn Kelly Show

Tanko Talks, Megyn's Hidden Camera Footage - Part 5 of Megyn Kelly Investigates: Baby Lisa's Disappearance | Ep. 1026

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Well, you're not, you're telling me this is fact, that, like, they get friction on the phone. But I don't believe it. Because I don't, I don't believe I ever possessed a phone.

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Yeah. Did she? One of the theories is that she really wanted a family. She wanted a kid. That's not true. She never said that to you.

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Because I was scorned and on parole and I had a job to go do at the Watson's house. And she... Was that the one down the block? Yeah. She called the police, told her I was going to be working there.

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Yeah. I broke up, and I never talked to her again after that. Maybe, I don't know, four or five months might have went by from when the baby was missing. No, no, until we broke up, until the baby left. I never, ever talked to her again.

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I pulled up on the front lawn in a stolen van one time, but I didn't talk to her.

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No, it was the FBI in a homicide interrogation room. The detectives came to see me, actually to visit me in jail.

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Dane? Yeah. I believe I met him a couple of times. Maybe we got high together. I don't know. I already made up a rap. Some lyrics in it that say, I'll make you disappear like me and Lisa. So I don't know. That was kind of weird.

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Like I said, I only met him once or twice, and we weren't really friends, and we just, you know, I happened to have something, or he happened to have something, and that was it. Okay. Like we exchanged numbers or talked after that or anything.

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And I hate, I hate being a What are they referring me as? A link to this case. I don't want no involvement. I'm not involved. When you do a show, your viewers, you're actually giving your viewers an option. This person do it, and this person do it. This person do it, and this person do it. You see, I don't want to be with another person. I don't want some people to think, I don't want to do that.

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Like I said, I really don't want to be part of this. If she don't have some information I can give you, that you can, you know, just run with it. Maybe find out what happened. But it's great. I don't want to be on TV. I don't want to do all that. You've got to respect that. You have to.

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How can Deborah have gotten rid of the baby's body without it being detected? You know, that's one of the things that keeps stumping me.

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He was older. His hands wouldn't work anymore because he had arthritis. So he needed me to do something. He gave me cloth.

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Um, that was days before, I believe. He said once the grass started growing, I didn't have to do anything. Oh. He said, once you start growing, you gotta keep growing.

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Now I'm in the area. Now at first he said he was growing out of Earl's house.

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Oh, seeing somebody carrying a baby, I didn't get all that about, fits my description type. See, this is, this is, you know, it's just weird because it's like, like I said, it's going to put in people's minds that I could have possibly had something going on. I don't know. I don't deserve it, you know.

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You know, if I was to tell you, then you'd go there, and I'm not going to be that person that's... Yeah, that sends you something.

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And I told you, I told her that, but I wasn't being honest. I don't even know why I said it. Maybe I was still spun out. I don't know. I don't know why I said it.

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I told her I had nothing to do with it. Just like I'm telling you right now. I had nothing to do with it. I don't know anything about it.

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You know what? There was a story about that Hurley's missing baby And we went through all this, and it was an hour long. And then I'm at the end, the very last person they speak about. So it kind of made me feel like the program was designed by somebody to make it appear that the story ends here with this guy. You see what I mean? And that bothered you greatly. It still bothers me to this day.

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I haven't talked to them. I haven't talked to them to know about it. If you Google my name, they can find out. That sucks, too. That totally sucks.

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Not that I'm feeling guilty about anything, but just the fact that I feel I'm being put involved in something that I'm not involved in.

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Thank you. Say well. I hope you guys don't kick too much shit on me.

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I'd rather not because my lawyer told me not to talk to anybody. It could be a death penalty case. I don't want to have to sit in prison for five years.

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What's happening? That's what I'm saying. None whatsoever. The FBI vacuumed out the house. It's my DNA. You have a million skin cells that go like that. They're going to bag it off and they're going to DNA it to me. And I'd be charged. We're going to die.

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Well... You're not, you're telling me this is fact that my kid gets rich on the phone, but I don't believe it. I don't, I don't believe I ever possessed a phone.

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I don't know. People alive, I don't know. Now I'm in the area, I'm not forced to say it was on Harold's house.

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In fact, there was a witness that So he did know. He knew facts about this investigation in a way that I thought was pretty telling as well. But that was a great example of deception. He didn't say I wasn't there.

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I'd rather not because my lawyer told me not to talk to anybody. It could be a death penalty case. I don't want to have to sit in prison for five years and go to trial.

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I don't have any of them. That's what I'm saying. None whatsoever. The FBI vacuumed out the house. It's my DNA. You have a million skin cells. You go like that, they're going to bag it up and they're going to DNA it to me. And I'd be charged. No doubt about it. What do you mean? Their story is, well, Debra's story is that some just random person came in the house and kicked out the police. Right?