The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump's Action-Packed Day One, and Ridiculous Media Spin on Elon "Salute," with Charles C.W. Cooke and Rich Lowry | Ep. 987
Tue, 21 Jan 2025
Megyn Kelly begins the show by giving behind-the-scenes details about her experience at the Trump inauguration, Trump rally on Sunday, and inaugural balls, the freezing logistical nightmares, her great times meeting fans, and more. Then Charles C.W. Cooke and Rich Lowry of National Review join to discuss Trump keeping his campaign promises on day one, the dozens of executive orders that have already been signed, Trump's incredible energy, Trump pardoning nearly all January 6 protesters and rioters, the controversy over the move that has erupted, the hypocrisy over prosecuting those who attack police officers depending on the party, Lauren Sanchez's narcissistic persona and Instagram posts, Melania Trump’s class and incredible style, the ridiculous leftist media spinning an Elon Musk speech moment as an offensive “salute,” the double standard of top Dems using the same hand gestures, woke bishop at the inauguration prayer service who lectured Trump on "trans kids" and immigrants during the service, the left’s tendency to talk down to illegal immigrants, Vivek's DOGE exit, and more. Cooke- https://x.com/charlescwcookeLowry- https://www.nationalreview.com/Birch Gold: Text MK to 989898 and get your free info kit on goldByrna: Get 10% Off at https://Byrna.com/MegynDailyLook: https://DailyLook.com to take your style quiz and use code MEGYN for 50% off your first order. Follow The Megyn Kelly Show on all social platforms:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/MegynKellyTwitter: http://Twitter.com/MegynKellyShowInstagram: http://Instagram.com/MegynKellyShowFacebook: http://Facebook.com/MegynKellyShow Find out more information at: https://www.devilmaycaremedia.com/megynkellyshow
Chapter 1: What was Megyn Kelly's experience at the Trump inauguration?
Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and the first full day of President Trump's second term. Do you feel relieved? I feel euphoric and also just like crazed. My brain, I feel like somebody put my head like in some sort of a blender. It's
I want to tell you that we had a wonderful trip. Like, actually seeing Trump, you know, take the oath of office. I mean, I actually didn't witness it in person. I mean, via, you know, television like you guys. But being there for it, being at the rally, all this stuff was euphoric. I mean, it was just... It's the dawn of a new day and you could feel it in every way, shape and form.
But the logistics around the inauguration festivities around D.C. were just extremely challenging. And it was the talk of the town because you'd show up at any event and they had this place locked down totally understandably. My God, how many assassination attempts do you need to have on a president before they start to lock down cities? But it was...
It's so challenging to get from A to B, whether it was, you know, the arena where, you know, I was speaking for Trump. So you think, you know, it'd be a little easier to get in, but At turn after turn after turn, you had Secret Service at every block and then the next block and the next block and then you just try to get through and try to get through and try to get through.
And civilians, you know, people who are not speaking, times that by 100. And then at the balls, you know, you'd go, but you couldn't get anywhere near the actual ball unless you happened to be at the right hotel and got on the right shuttle bus and then whatever.
if you were somebody like me or most people, you had to walk maybe four or five, six long blocks in, I mean, it was like just over zero with biting windchill. And the ladies are in ball gowns, yours truly included. So we're freezing. So of course I did have my new fur coat. By the way, I was right. PETA did send me an email about it. And I'm going to tell you something. I kind of love PETA. I
I am somebody who eats animals and wears animal products, but I have a soft spot in my heart for these guys because they've been trying to convert me for many, many years, and they do it really nicely. They're not jerks about it. Anyway, I'll tell you about that, but I did wear my fur, and I have to tell you, it made a big difference.
It really did keep me warm, at least on the areas that it was covering, but that doesn't include the bottom of your legs and your hands and your face and your head and so on. And I was with my family too. So we were all so cold and everybody was so cold. So then you get to the eventual destination and, you know, you go to an inaugural ball. There are thousands of people there, you guys, thousands.
The one we went to was in Union Station. And, um, We're like, how are they going to have a coat check for thousands of people? Well, that was a good question because it was full, but you know, shortly after they got started. So then everybody's in there wearing their coats over their ball gowns and there's tuxedos in it. That's slightly awkward too.
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Chapter 2: What executive orders did Trump sign on his first day?
Yeah, I mean, that was just preposterous. It's a very weird side trend in our politics at the moment, which is progressives trying to unionize everything as if they're coal miners, people who work in congressional offices or newspapers talking about the travails of their day. They need a 32-hour week. But anyway, so an enormous amount happened.
It was odd because at one level, there was a massive amount of change yesterday. You saw the shifts in policy, legitimate shifts in policy of areas that have been delegated to the president by Congress on sex, as in sex versus gender, as you say, on energy, on foreign policy. on immigration. But then there was some continuity.
Buckle up.
It's so funny that neither one of those was like a huge headline, you know, like the media totally ignored this brand new amendment, the constitutional amendment that Biden just declared by tweet. And I wouldn't even say that Trump with a birthright citizenship is the lead in most papers. It's like.
The Constitution can't be amended by presidential fiat and it can't be undone by presidential fiat either. Trump and I actually, you know, we got into this when I interviewed him about a year ago. Like, it's really tough to undo birthright citizenship. But he's at least got an argument, unlike Biden.
You know, Rich, the argument on birthright citizenship is that subject to the jurist and born in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. And that's what Even some very smart legal scholars will say that actually is an opening and it's worth having the argument.
Yeah, there's ambiguity there. There's an argument about it. Probably need Congress to do it rather than do it by executive order, even if there is an opening there to say illegal aliens, their children aren't natural born citizens. But just the last 24 hours, complete show of force and completely what we were told was going to happen.
And I think there's just been this through line of consistency on pretty much everything Trump said over the last year or two that he's going to do, what he said in his inaugural address he was going to do, and what he did. Now, maybe you can say, you know, J.D. Vance and others, Pam Bondi said there was going to be a case-by-case evaluation of the January 6th defendants.
I think that would have been a better idea. Instead, it was this sweeping pardons. But you can't be surprised that he pardoned these people in some form or the right, because it's exactly what he said he was going to do. And by the way, this is not the first time that J.D.
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Chapter 3: How did the media react to Trump's pardons?
Like that's what the next year, two, three, four are going to look like on most cable channels and broadcast news channels, Rich, because at heart, the elite news media doesn't want this to happen, even though the country overwhelmingly does.
Yeah, totally. So, look, I sympathize with migrants. They're desperate people. And that woman thought she was going to get in the United States and win life's lottery. And that was pulled away for her. Now, for good reasons, right? I'm very strongly supportive of a secure border and interior enforcement. And this app was way around our laws that the Biden administration fashioned.
So they could say the number of illegal immigrants was zero. going down, the same time they're getting exactly the same people into the country through a pretext that they came up with through this app. Trump invoked these emergency powers. He's going to be sending troops to the border. That's not really the issue. More manpower helps at the margins, but you have to change
The policy is that let people into the country to abuse our asylum process and never leave. So you need to exclude them. So that's why remain in Mexico was so important. That's why these so-called safe third country agreements were so important. Right. If you say you're politically persecuted in Honduras, what we would say is, oh, well, Guatemala will take you.
And then the person from behind doors would say, actually, maybe I'm not that politically persecuted. I'll just stay home. So all that work needs to be reimplemented. Now, those countries might not be interested in doing it. Certainly Mexico isn't. But that's where the tariffs and other cajoling and bullying comes in to get them to resign on the dotted line and cooperate with us.
No, it's like the government offering a homeless person free stay at the Days Inn and they're like, no, I want to be at the Ritz. That's us, the United States. Well, sorry, you got to stay at the Days Inn, Guatemala or Mexico. You can't come to the Ritz Carlton on the taxpayer's dime. It's that's not no longer going to be a thing.
Charles, happy to hear your thoughts on the immigration and what's happening. But I also want to get to Trump pulling us out of the Paris Climate Accords and what he's doing on the Green New Deal and the green energy policies that the left pushed through. Here's Trump pulling out of the Paris Climate Accord at Capital One Arena at that desk when he appeared yesterday, SOT1.
But I'm immediately withdrawing from the unfair one-sided Paris Climate Accord ripoff. The United States will not sabotage our own industries while China pollutes with impunity.
Well, and he went on about China and just what a massive polluter they are. And like, what are we doing to ourselves here?
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Chapter 4: What is the controversy surrounding Biden's pardons?
I love the Melania hat.
You like the hat? Yeah. You didn't like it? Me and you, Megan. I loved it. I didn't like it.
What didn't you like about it, Rich? Because it did seem like a way, a weird way to kind of hide. Look, she looks great in anything. And she's a real style horse, right? And I thought her, I'm not a dress guy, but the inaugural dress was stunning with that Z, white Z on the black dress. But I wasn't a fan of the hat. Certainly notable.
I laughed when somebody online said she looked like the Hamburglar. I thought that was actually very funny, but that's not true. I thought she looked like perfection. I can't get over how beautiful this woman is. But Trump did, Charlie, tell a funny story by his helicopter, about the helicopter at the Capitol after his speech. Take a listen here.
I shouldn't say this. I'm going to get hell when I say this, but... Her feet are absolutely aching, you know, those heels. She said, darling, I love you so much, but my feet are killing me. I said, honey, let me just see how far it is. I asked the person, oh, not that long, maybe 400 or 500 yards. That's five-foot golf hills. I said, can you make it?
She said, we're going to make it no matter what. We're going to make it because we have the game, right? Right? And then we went out to the helicopter, though, just prior to this, and said goodbye. And it's a custom. And the wind is blowing like crazy. And with the hat that she's wearing, she almost blew away. We almost lost her. She was being elevated off the ground. She almost blew away. No.
So we all appreciate it, because you've been a great First Lady.
She almost blew away. OK, but Charlie, without asking you, you can tell me how you feel about the hat. But whose opinion I really want is MBD. I feel like you'd have strong feelings on it. But I do think Trump has a point about what a great first lady she is. I she's my kind of first lady where she stays out of it. She doesn't think she's secretly the president.
Yeah, there's a great Bill Burr segment about this, so I'd encourage your listeners to go look up. And it is a strange development in First Lady-dom when they get involved in politics. She's a good first lady. I'll be honest with you. It's not something I've thought a great deal about. I do think her hat was exquisite. So I'm on your side on this. The outfit was great. I think it's very classic.
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Chapter 5: How is Trump addressing immigration on his first day?
They're not. I've said before, they're not changing. I don't expect change. They're going to go right back to their Trump derangement syndrome and further decrease and erode their credibility. Here we did find the Bill Kristol tweet saying to Caroline Levitt, who's the new press secretary. Elon Musk has an office in the White House. Does the president support his salute yesterday, in quotes?
Has anyone at the White House asked Musk what he meant by it or suggested he clarify what he meant? Is it fine if other White House staffers offer such salutes? And Elon just tweeted out, not in response to Crystal, but just in general, frankly, they need better tricks, better dirty tricks. The everyone is Hitler attack is so tired. Rich, how true is that?
We just saw Hitler sit down with Barack Obama and they were kidding each other like old college chums. Hitler glad handed with Bill Clinton. Hitler. I mean, they just tried to pull this unsuccessfully with Trump. And no sooner does he get sworn in than they try it with Elon.
Yeah, it's tired. It was tired 50 years ago. They always use this. And the honorable thing to do is to say, I don't like Elon Musk. And I think he's run his platform in a disgraceful way. And he shouldn't be on board with this crude and reactionary president. But he didn't do a Hitler salute. Right? That's the honorable way to make their case. But they can't.
And they're stuck in this mode of thinking where some of them believe it, as we were talking about earlier, because they're in an information bubble. And some of them just think it works. And it doesn't. Not sure it ever did, but it certainly doesn't now.
That's an interesting question. Like, who... who really believes, does Bill Kristol really believe that Elon did a Heil Hitler salute? Or does he just see an opportunity to stir up hatred against an administration that he hates and tried very hard to defeat? I don't know. I do think that you can get so crazed with TDS that you can no longer be an affair arbiter or an honest broker of information.
That's the distinction I was trying to make about NR, which you don't hate Trump, but you guys, you know, Charlie's not a huge Trump fan. I think it's fair to say, but such a fair journalist commentator, you know, would never play fast and loose with the facts just to hurt Trump. That's you're still, you're an honest broker, Bill Kristol. I don't know. He's so crazy. It almost doesn't matter.
Um, here's Rachel Maddow with her like typical sanctimonious, like I'm sorry to have to bring you this, but here's the latest of these terrible people. This is what happened with these disgusting opponents. Watch. Here she is.
This is him today twice throwing something that looks like what is politely called the Roman salute. And maybe this is not what he meant when he did it. Who among us knows what is in the hearts of men? But the Roman salute is a thing. And that is what it looks like Elon Musk was doing, which added a nice blood-curdling chill to the day for many people today. Go ahead. He does it twice.
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Chapter 6: What are the implications of Trump's withdrawal from the Paris Climate Accords?
Okay, so it's not just Elizabeth Warren. Kamala Harris, this is her South Carolina Democratic Party event in September of 2024. Watch.
us back before Roe v. Wade was enacted, because we're not going back. We're not going back.
Oh, there it is. Palm down, Nazi salute. And then you've got lives of TikTok that put together a screen grab of a bunch of Democrats doing the Roman salute, or are they? I mean, how can we know what's in the hearts of men and women? Can we put it on the board? Hold on. We'll see it in one second. Here we go. Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama are the president of the United States.
Is that Kamala at the bottom? My eyes can't quite see. Yes, that's Kamala. Three top Democrats. A Harris, a Clinton, and an Obama all with... The Roman salute, which, by the way, Rachel Maddow did not once but twice on her show and imitating what what what Elon allegedly did. And she did it wrong. She didn't do what Elon did, touching his heart.
And, you know, she did an actual Heil Hitler situation thinking that's fine. OK. misrepresentative. And by the way, CNN should be really careful because they just had to pay $5 million plus in a settlement of a defamation lawsuit that they just were found liable in a jury trial for. So you should really be careful about throwing around the Heil Hitler accusations, but they won't be.
Just for good measure before we close this segment out, here is Democratic Senator from Connecticut. He's daring me. He's daring me. I don't actually want to run for Senate. I love my current job, but he's daring me to take his seat. Here he goes.
What do you think of Elon Musk, perhaps the president's most visible advisor, doing two Heil Hitler salutes last night at the president's televised rally?
No, Elon Musk did not do those salutes. I was not at the rally. But I can tell you I've been at many rallies with Elon Musk, who loves to cheer when President Trump says we need to send our U.S. space program to Mars. Elon Musk is a visionary. I'm looking forward to his work in DOGE, the Department of Government Efficiency, and look forward to looking how we can be more efficient and effective.
But that is simply not the case. And to say so is the American people are smart. They see through it. They support Elon Musk.
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Chapter 7: What is the reaction to Lauren Sanchez's appearance at the inauguration?
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Before we go, an update on a woman I mentioned during my remarks at the Trump rally the day before his inauguration this past Sunday. Her name is Jody Shaw.
And I mentioned her for a reason, because in this whole cultural war we've been engaged in, you know, the left trying to force racist DEI policies on us at the federal government level, at the corporate level, in our universities, in the K through 12 system. It's just everywhere.
We've been winning, but it's thanks to soldiers, citizen soldiers, if you will, like Jody Shaw, who in many cases before the loudmouths among us found the temerity to stand up and say, no, and to say, stop this. So Jody Shaw worked in an administrative capacity at Smith College and she was an alum of Smith and she,
One day, she didn't have a powerful position there, but one day she just reached the breaking point with the over the, I mean, Smith is as leftist as they come. Not only is it an elite liberal institution, it's reportedly, I think 50% lesbian. And so this is an institution that supposedly prides itself on tolerance and so on.
But as you know, like most of those institutions, they get crazy on issues that are so-called woke issues. So that's what was happening at Smith. She one night took to Facebook and in a video went up there and let him have it in very measured but clear terms. Here's a sample.
I ask that Smith College stop reducing my personhood to a racial category. Stop telling me what I must think and feel about myself because I feel like you do that a lot. I know you do that a lot and I need you to stop doing that. Stop presuming to know who I am or what my culture is based upon my skin color because you don't know that. You don't know that about anybody except for yourself.
Stop asking me to project stereotypes and assumptions onto others based upon their skin color.
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