The Megyn Kelly Show
Ghouls Cheer Healthcare CEO's Murder, Hegseth Smears Continue, and Penny Trial Update, with Maureen Callahan | Ep. 959
Fri, 6 Dec 2024
Megyn Kelly is joined by The Daily Mail's Maureen Callahan to discuss President-Elect Donald Trump speaking out in support of Pete Hegseth, whether his nomination as Defense Secretary can survive, the smears about sexual assault and how he has now released the accuser from her NDA, The Washington Post's new smear of Hegseth by downplaying his Bronze Stars, the effects of these accusations and negative press on his Defense Secretary nomination, how the jury still somehow hasn't decided the fate of Daniel Penny case, how the media is ignoring the state Jordan Neely was in at the time of the encounter, the shocking assassination of the UnitedHealthcare CEO in NYC, the sick individuals celebrating his murder, the evidence and bizarre details of the story, an exclusive video showing the radical trans ideology being taught at an NYC middle school, the response from the school and district, "entrepreneur of nothing" Prince Harry speaking at the "Dealbook Summit," discussing Meghan Markle recent absence in appearances with him, their constant complaining about the press despite appearing in public settings, and more.More from Callahan- https://www.instagram.com/maureen_callahan_writer/Prager U: Join PragerU’s fastest-growing podcast. Subscribe to Real Talk with Marissa Streit on your favorite podcast platform or watch at https://l.prageru.com/419fE2mFirecracker Farm: Get yours today at https://Firecracker.Farm/Birch Gold: Text MK to 989898 and get your free info kit on gold
Chapter 1: What updates are there on the Daniel Penny trial?
The quick update is the jury appears hung on the most serious crime against Penny. He's the man who put Jordan Neely in a chokehold, the homeless vagrant who was threatening passengers, but also a really great Michael Jackson impersonator, which is all you would know about him from the headlines of the mainstream media. Correct. And the man wound up dying.
Anyway, the jury should not be having this much trouble. It should be very easy, I think, to say not guilty. But they're having trouble. And we'll give you the specifics in one second. We're going to start with Pete Hegseth. This morning, Trump tweeted out or truthed out support for support for Pete, making clear he does stand by him.
That was very good news for Pete saying, Pete Hegseth is doing very well. His support is strong and deep, much more so than the fake news would have you believe. He was a great student, Princeton, Harvard educated with a military state of mind. He will be a fantastic high energy secretary of defense, one who leads with charisma and skill.
Pete is a winner and there is nothing that can be done to change that. So that's the best thing that's happened to Pete in a while. He posted it this morning at 8 a.m. And my information continues to be that Pete's got still an uphill battle in the Senate because there's probably no way Susan Collins of Maine, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska will vote for Pete. Mm hmm.
And that Mitch McConnell hates Trump and is ready to vote no on anybody who's controversial. That could include Pete, probably will include Pete. And then there's Joni Ernst of Iowa, red state, who says she hasn't made up her mind. She's not yet a no, but I mean, I know her a bit and she's got a whole career of caring about sexual assault in the military and trying to clean that up.
And she herself is a service member and, And this is something she's been priding herself on as a US Senator. And this is her committee, the Senate Armed Services Committee. So it's her bailiwick. And I don't think she's in love with Pete Hegseth. And I think she actually could be a no, notwithstanding the pressure I'm sure she's getting. She hasn't said no yet, but that would do it.
That would kill the nomination. Having said that, there is a groundswell of support for Pete happening right now amongst the troops, which is going to be very hard for any one of those four to resist if it gets loud enough. What do you make of it?
I agree completely. And I think, well, there are two things. I was listening to you yesterday, and your point about if Pete Hegseth is the next sacrificial lamb, what will happen when RFK Jr. 's turn comes up? Oh, boy. Right? Secondly, the way the mainstream media has been reporting upon this allegation of sexual assault is disgusting, right? I listened to you take it apart.
I too had read that thing front to back. I love things on paper. Police reports, depositions, the color and the detail you get is so vital. And what struck me so much about that that claim by that woman was she sort of was protesting a little bit too much in her text messages. Oh, Pete Hegseth, do you know who this guy is? I don't know who he is. All the women here are going crazy over him.
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Chapter 2: What are the allegations against Pete Hegseth?
And that I think was the insult that broke her. I think that broke her. I think that was like, oh, oh, I was just used. I was just, I was just a warm body. I was the one left at the end of the night. That whole thing front to back stinks to high heaven.
Hello, when he didn't flirt with you the whole night, when you thought it was in your purview to lecture him on how he treats women. 100%, she's his handler. Right, getting him back to his hotel room at 1.30. When you go into his room on your own and have sex with a man who is a stranger to you, expect no better. Exactly. Expect no better. And that applies to her and all women.
100%.
100%. And so this rape allegation and that he paid her money to go away, which... You know, the whole thing is just, it's so dispiriting because I do wish we had better choices. You know, it seems that positions like this, positions of extreme power, do they tend to attract a certain kind of male who is a bit reckless in their personal life, who has an ego that needs to be fed to this degree?
I think it's a different thing.
I think it's that right now under Trump, we have a few, you know, nominees with questionable pasts. And with Pete, I will limit my remarks to just the stuff that he's admitted. You know, cheating on all three of your wives is not a badge of honor. But I think that there is something about people who are attracted to Trump and to MAGA that is... admirable.
That's we like it, but it may come with some scars on the guys and the gals where you're ready to fight. You will fight convention. You will middle finger, even the, the Pentagon brass, like F you, I'm not going by your rules anymore. And it does require sort of a rebellious streak, which isn't developed overnight.
And so it can come with some bumps and bruises that you wouldn't see on your typical sec def nominee, but net net could be a benefit to your performance in the job. We're just not used to this. We don't usually nominate candidates with those kinds of scars. Usually they've been deal breakers right from the get go. But after we put a commander in chief in place who cheated on three wives and
We're like, you just kind of have to reevaluate whether you're going to continue making these the standards, because I guarantee you Mark Milley probably has an impeccable reputation. past when it comes to wives. He probably does. We don't care.
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Chapter 3: How is the media portraying Hegseth's military service?
Chapter 4: What are the implications of the NDA violation in Hegseth's case?
Chapter 5: How does the education system relate to societal issues?
Chapter 6: What is the reaction to the murder of the UnitedHealthcare CEO?
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yes in this latest episode of the capitol hill soap opera combat vets are sparring over who should lead our troops the first star of our series was matt gates gone but not forgotten and the current is thirst trap Pete Hegseth. Yes, I refer to him that way because, well, I will show you why in one minute. This is what they're calling him online.
Could Joni Ernst, the possible villain in our soap opera, be the one who stands in his way? Or will Dark Horse, Governor Ron DeSantis in his navy whites, ride in from the sunset and declare himself the victor? Joining me now to discuss all of this and breaking news in the New York trial of Daniel Penny, one of our favorite guests, Maureen Callahan, columnist for the Daily Mail.
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The quick update is the jury appears hung on the most serious crime against Penny. He's the man who put Jordan Neely in a chokehold, the homeless vagrant who was threatening passengers, but also a really great Michael Jackson impersonator, which is all you would know about him from the headlines of the mainstream media. Correct. And the man wound up dying.
Anyway, the jury should not be having this much trouble. It should be very easy, I think, to say not guilty. But they're having trouble. And we'll give you the specifics in one second. We're going to start with Pete Hegseth. This morning, Trump tweeted out or truthed out support for support for Pete, making clear he does stand by him.
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Chapter 7: What are the challenges facing Trump's nominees?
100%.
100%. And so this rape allegation and that he paid her money to go away, which... You know, the whole thing is just, it's so dispiriting because I do wish we had better choices. You know, it seems that positions like this, positions of extreme power, do they tend to attract a certain kind of male who is a bit reckless in their personal life, who has an ego that needs to be fed to this degree?
I think it's a different thing.
I think it's that right now under Trump, we have a few, you know, nominees with questionable pasts. And with Pete, I will limit my remarks to just the stuff that he's admitted. You know, cheating on all three of your wives is not a badge of honor. But I think that there is something about people who are attracted to Trump and to MAGA that is... admirable.
That's we like it, but it may come with some scars on the guys and the gals where you're ready to fight. You will fight convention. You will middle finger, even the, the Pentagon brass, like F you, I'm not going by your rules anymore. And it does require sort of a rebellious streak, which isn't developed overnight.
And so it can come with some bumps and bruises that you wouldn't see on your typical sec def nominee, but net net could be a benefit to your performance in the job. We're just not used to this. We don't usually nominate candidates with those kinds of scars. Usually they've been deal breakers right from the get go. But after we put a commander in chief in place who cheated on three wives and
We're like, you just kind of have to reevaluate whether you're going to continue making these the standards, because I guarantee you Mark Milley probably has an impeccable reputation. past when it comes to wives. He probably does. We don't care.
We're so over him. It's so true. So remember David Petraeus pushed out over that Rolling Stone expose because he cheated on his wife? Yeah, with his biographer. With his biographer, who he called a mentee. And the thing that I take away is I hate the fact that mentee is in the lexicon now. The proper word is protege. And everyone has mentee. But regardless...
Petraeus was like a five-star general and he was the one everybody thought was going to crack Iraq and Afghanistan. And he, he had to be thrown on the pyre because he cheated on his wife, you know? So listen, I agree. We were so cute back then. I know. Were we adorable? Yeah, we were adorable. It,
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Chapter 8: How does Pete Hegseth's past impact his nomination?
That's good. That's good parenting. Ideally, it happens early in one's life, earlier than it did with Pete. Right. But I really believe that it could have knocked him straight. And that's when he joined this church. And that's when he wound up getting the tattoos. Like you're not going to tattoo your body like that if you're not actually feeling faithful and connected.
So I think there is some evidence that it's legit. And I don't know Pete to be a liar, nor have I seen a past that suggests, of course, while he was cheating, he's lying. But I just mean outside of that context. And there's no evidence that he's led a life of deceit outside of this strain of being a womanizer.
Yeah, I think it might just be a personal thing with me. I have found, you know, I'm the product of like 12 years of Catholic school, and I have found the more that people invoke Christ, you know, vocally and often as their personal savior, the way... It's usually indicative of something else going on. They can be the least Christian. Exactly, like the spy the lie thing.
They can be the least Christian people and the most rigid and the most un-understanding of gray areas. And so that's where for me, I kind of feel like it's maybe he doesn't intend it this way, certainly given the benefit of the doubt that it's genuine, but it can feel a bit like shorthand. Like, trust me now.
Mm hmm.
I have religion. I found faith. Trust me now.
So you're like whether it's genuine or not. Stop mentioning it because it's like don't use the Lord's name in this context as you're like witness of your character change. It seems like too much. You're coming on too strong.
It's a little strong.
Yeah. Well, it seems to be working a little because Trump is, you know, this tweet, this true social that he posted. He wouldn't have done that if he thought Pete was dead in the water. And, you know, the confirmation hearings have not yet started. Right now, it's not looking like they necessarily will pull Pete before we get there. Right.
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