Steve Bannon
Appearances
Honestly with Bari Weiss
Trump’s Populism Isn’t a Sideshow. It’s as American as Apple Pie.
That burning, burning, burning in the grain of our soul that it was stolen, and we could not let this happen to the Republic and everything we saw, that built up the greatest comeback in the history of this country.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
Trump’s Populism Isn’t a Sideshow. It’s as American as Apple Pie.
You have to seize the institutions. You have to seize them. You have to control them. Number one is just for expertise. Remember, a populist movement is a grassroots movement. This is Steve Bannon again. General Jackson's term in office is a great example where he wanted to take down the central bank and he had all kinds of problems just even staffing out and getting things done.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
Trump’s Populism Isn’t a Sideshow. It’s as American as Apple Pie.
He accomplished a lot. But populism's restrictions is always the ruling class or the established order. They're not going to give it up and they think they can wait you out because history shows they can wait you out. They control the institutions, they control the education, they control the money centers. This is just about in every populist revolution.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
Trump’s Populism Isn’t a Sideshow. It’s as American as Apple Pie.
Well, I hope, I hope that we put back in that great painting of General Jackson right there to the president's left so you could get in all the shots. I would hope that would go back up.
Pivot
DOGE’s Chaos Strategy, X’s New Valuation, and Guest Co-Host Katie Drummond
Elon's doing some great work. You know, I'm a huge supporter of the deconstruction administrative state and what Elon's doing in Doge. I'm a big supporter of that. I hope and my prayer is that these cuts are real.
Pivot
DOGE’s Chaos Strategy, X’s New Valuation, and Guest Co-Host Katie Drummond
You don't have the cards right now. With us, you start having cards.
Pivot
DOGE’s Chaos Strategy, X’s New Valuation, and Guest Co-Host Katie Drummond
You're gambling with the lives of millions of people. You're gambling with World War III.
Pivot
DOGE’s Chaos Strategy, X’s New Valuation, and Guest Co-Host Katie Drummond
Have you said thank you once?
Pivot
DOGE’s Chaos Strategy, X’s New Valuation, and Guest Co-Host Katie Drummond
What are you saying?
Pivot
DOGE’s Chaos Strategy, X’s New Valuation, and Guest Co-Host Katie Drummond
What if anything? What if a bomb drops on your head right now?
Pivot
Tariff Turmoil, Trump’s Tesla Ad, and Newsom’s Bannon Interview
Forgive me, but what's his end game? I mean, I know, look, he wants to be the first trillionaire in the world. I mean, what's his end game here? Well, you know it. You guys, you created a governor. I mean, you guys- By the way, in many respects, California did. It was our regulatory process and our subsidies to create this market. You're 100% right. I think you're right.
The Bulwark Podcast
Jon Favreau: Funny and Horrible
The political class is infected with a malignant cancer. That cancer is bipartisanship. Clearly, Johnson's not up to the task, and he's got to go, right? He's got to go. Should Johnson be Speaker of the House?
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
Wow. Well, I think we're making a lot of progress. And I don't want to say too much because I think they're doing a really good job back in Doha. I'm leaving tomorrow back to go to Doha. But I think that we've had some really great progress. And I'm really hopeful that by the inaugural, we'll have some good things to announce on behalf of the president. I actually believe that we're working
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
in tandem in a really good way, but it's the President, his reputation, the things that he has said that are driving this negotiation. And so, hopefully, it'll all work out and we'll save some lives. The Press I believe we've been on the verge of it. I don't want to discuss sort of what's delayed it. There's no point to be negative in any way.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
But I think it's the president, his stature, what he said he expects, the red lines he's put out there. That's driving this negotiation. I'm going back probably either this evening or tomorrow night.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
I know I would I would say they better be right. I would say that. The president is exasperated. I don't want to talk for him. But look, I don't know anyone who delegates better than President Trump. He gives us a lot of authority to speak on his behalf. And he exhorts us to speak emphatically. And emphatically means you better do this because the alternative.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
No, I think they heard him loud and clear. Better get done by the inaugural.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
If it's it's in direct succession to the presidency, it's number two. Obviously, you can't be a natural. You have to be a natural born citizen to have that. But Mike Davis tells me, hey, you could just skip Elon if anything happened to the president or the VP and we could get on with it. So I think it's what President Trump wants. But I think that that is right now we have to get through this.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
And I'm very comfortable with the government shutting down and just waiting to President Trump shows up in January to get this done. It'll be messier, but President Trump can sort out. But the speaker's race happens on the 3rd of January. They come back on the 2nd.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
It's going to be wild. It's going to be very wild. But I got to tell you, it's the breakout session. It's the whole package. So the week before Christmas, get people here. The weekend before Christmas, you've got so many motivated people, 18,000. By the way, War Room can still get it by going to AmFest.com. War Room, you still get your 25%.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
If you're right now messing around, and some of these guys, Cassidy's been terrible. He voted for impeachment. I mean, he's a dead man walking politically anyway. But some of these people that are coming out, and not just that. It's not even coming out and saying, I'm not voting for him.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
Leaking after the meetings, like they said on Gates, Gates already committed to not going after Tony Fauci, not going after NBC, not going after Liz Cheney on just regular investigations. The folks up there got to understand. This has got to be a tight-run thing. We're going to get everybody through. All these people deserve it. It's an incredible team.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
For those leaking, you know, eventually there's going to be a lot of primary trials for people in cycles. So the Tom Tillises, you saw Joni Ernst was a perfect example. Folks got to understand, people at home are watching. Although we won this huge victory, we're not a huge celebration crowd like you.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
People are already in now wanting the details of what's going on, and they're already thinking downrange of the primaries in 2026.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
No, it would have gone through. This is the new ecosystem. Look, this is what the change, the mainstream media is now can't throw a punch, right? But even the old classic conservative, just Fox News, everybody trying to get on there, it doesn't work. You know, with all the different venues, when you have Turning Point, your show, your podcast, your radio show, all of it, this audience, they're
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
here's what they're thirsty for inside baseball details and they'll show up and do the work but to do the work they want to feel like they're part of it and they are part of it so the ecosystem on the right and i might add the far right is now driving the conversation this thing was dead in a couple hours and today you're hearing snarky anonymous quotes saying well you know elon musk are these you know the right wingers of charlie kirk and steve bannon they don't get us they don't get to tell us and i just say put your name on that
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
Just put your name on that and we'll see how it turns out.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
Charlie's good enough to give us the 25% discount on the first day.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
It's harassing. People have to understand the FBI and CIA are in every aspect of our government. That's the deep state controlling the administrative state.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
Thank you, guys. I'll see you later. For the War on Policy, I'll be back here this afternoon.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
way through all the way through so folks if you're in the general area california anywhere come on down you're going to have a great for plus there's high energy we need also to take some time to celebrate and to really i'm not a big celebration either but with all the firestorm going on we got to be able we're going to have come together to end this historic year
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
I sat in. I think I sat in for Charlie Kirk's first pitch. When Charlie Kirk came with Turning Point, and I sat in for some pretty big donuts. They asked me to sit in. And Charlie's sitting there pitching. And at the time, you're going to take over student government, student governor, president. And I go, that's about the wackiest idea I've ever heard.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
But the energy this guy had, this young man had, and...
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
make note you weren't even going to college i mean you made a big deal so i had only to do this i you know so and to think of just the arc of where you guys have come because it was elon musk that had it had everybody's back but it was the turning point and you focused on get out the vote with the war room posse in the blue wall pennsylvania michigan uh uh wisconsin but you focused on arizona and pennsylvania and look at that you're making those two the uh you're making pennsylvania
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
You have to remember, go back to 2020. What was it, 10.30 at night or 8.30 out here when Fox called it? I mean, that changed the entire dynamic. And we had to get back to that. But I'll be honest with you. I didn't think. I said, look, if Charlie and these guys can get us back with a two, two and a half point, three point win. Five and a half. Five and a half.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
And you guys did such a job. A little bit Nevada, I think, drafted off that. That's why Nevada, I thought, was going to be 1%.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
It's his first really calm and serious address. Yes, yes, yes.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
That's when the media actually realized, hey, at first they thought it was Trump coming down and he was really – because people were telling me, particularly Ailes and the guys at Senior Fox, they go, look, he's just trying to negotiate a better deal with The Apprentice. This is Trump, the master negotiator. And I go, I don't know about that.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
It was here in Phoenix in this very building when people all of a sudden go – There's over 2,000 people.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
Now, this will also be the first one that the first MAGA rally, really, when he's not an active candidate, unless we get into the 2028, but we'll do that.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
OK, first off, it's weapons grade trolling. OK, no, but here's the thing. I was out there the other night, and you're an hour and a half. You see, don't get this at AmFest, New York Young Republicans. At AmFest, Charlie runs it. It's high precision. When it says you're going up, maybe a few minutes because of applause or that, but you're going up.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
In New York, Gavin Waxer, I love you guys, but I'm an hour and a half late going to the stage, and it's 2,000 people, and they've been drinking since 6 o'clock in the afternoon. It feels like a 747 engine you're hitting. So I had a speech about the bond market and everything President Trump had to do, the things that are engulfing Washington, D.C. today.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
But I had to kind of throw that out and start throwing bombs. But I think it's an open question. It has to be an interpretation. It's just like Elon Musk. People are saying Elon Musk should be Speaker of the House. There's no requirement for anybody to be in Congress. Elon, now there is a question about natural born citizen because you're number two in succession.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
Mike Davis says, hey, you just go. Maybe you go to present pro temp. So that has to be worked out. It's not locked in because it doesn't say consecutive about. I think it's an open question. And of course, you see their entire meltdown. Just I had 100 articles about that. All the other.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
But to consecutive terms, it's ill-defined, right? It's still ill-defined. You could have consecutive. It's open for interpretation.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
As you know, the Warren posse and the Charlie Kirk show, we don't like CRs. We'd like to have 12 appropriations bills, get it done. This is where McCarthy's gone. Johnson, this should have been a layup. This should have been a two-line CR to kick into President Trump's term. We would agree to that. Or you add, you know, a $10 billion for the farmers, some money for the FEMA, and you get on with it.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
Johnson didn't tell Elon, didn't tell Vivek, didn't tell President Trump. He went to the UFC. He went to the Army-Navy game. Never told him 1,500 pages, all Democrat. It's not acceptable. They're up there thinking something else. And look, folks, it's going to be a little messy because of what the country's in. You've got wars in Ukraine, wars in the Middle East, deportations on the border.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
We're going to try to get this to be a close-run thing. We're going to help here at AmFest over the next couple of days of the breakout session, get everybody up to speed. I have more to say about this labor right now. President Trump's throwing in the debt ceiling. That's a little gasoline on the fire.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
But what can we tolerate? I'd like just to shut it down.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
Well, I think the most we could tolerate is some money for the farmers, a couple of billion dollars for the farmer to bridge him into President Trump, a couple of billion dollars for whatever FEMA needs to do now if there's not money there, and then sign it and kick it into President Trump's, and then next Congress.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
A hundred percent. It's not even a question. Look, Johnson, and I got a lot of grief early yesterday morning behind the scenes because people told me, oh, President Trump loves Johnson. President Trump's got Johnson's back. Don't do this. I said, hey, as soon as he sees the performance, I know Trump. Trump's about performance. This thing's a fiasco. Here's what upsets me. He was with
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
Vivek and Elon, who have been doing a ton of work. They came to Capitol Hill. They made a presentation. He was with them then. He was with them at the UFC fight. This is Johnson. He went to the Army-Navy game with President Trump and Vivek and Elon. So these are three or four times he's there. Nobody had any idea it was a 1,500-page document that was highly negotiated.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
And the giveaways to the Democrats, I mean, obviously, Hakeem Jeffries got two-thirds to 75%.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
In secret over at least the last six weeks. And he lied about it. He came on Fox and said, hey, you know, it was a simple bill, one page until some, you know, acts of God happened with the hurricane and about the farmers. That's just not true. If you just look at he had every opportunity, including at midnight on the first day they released it in the evening at midnight.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
He tells Fox he was on the phone with Vivek and Elon. He didn't even walk him through it. He made all kind of excuses. Then as they spent overnight, Elon was up at four o'clock in the morning or four thirty dropping bombs on this thing as he went through this and said, so look. We have to have somebody that has leadership and courage and can be straightforward.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
President Trump, this next, and this is why I gave this, tried to give the speech on Sunday night about the bond market. If you look at the wars in Ukraine and the Middle East, if you look at the deportations, the border, everything has happened there. Those two lines, the one in the middle.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
Hey, can we give it up for Charlie Kirk, what he's done here at AmFest? What amazing, Charlie, what size crowd are we anticipating here?
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
to get the economy right, to get this debt right, to get all the cuts he wants to make, to get Doge's thing. That is so complicated. You have to line up and go down with OMB, the Secretary of Treasury, the National Economic Council.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
The Speaker has to be, and his team have to be hardwired into that, because as the Constitution tells us, all taxes, by the way, the taxes, all taxes, revenue generation comes from the House, and all spending comes from the House, and only the House. This is why the Speaker, Johnson's just not up to his task. This is not personal. He's just not up to the task.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
And you see this thing about Liz Cheney and Loudermilk sending this criminal referral to FBI. That committee should have been dealt with by the House. A year ago or a year and a half ago, we should have done the whole J6. On anything you can look at, it just hasn't been good enough. We need the best team there. And people are saying Elon Musk.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
Hey, I'm comfortable with anybody that the Congress and President Trump supports. If it's Elon Musk, it's Elon Musk. If it's Jim Jordan, it's Jim Jordan. Whoever it's got to be, it's got to be. We just got to get on with it and make sure that we're tight.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
No, it's ridiculous. A CR should either be two lines or the alternative would be two lines. You add a couple of billion dollars for the farmers just to bridge them and a couple of billion dollars for FEMA and then a two-year, if President Trump wants a two-year runway on the debt ceiling, you give him two years.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
No, we had three or four months of this in September.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
This could, but I think right now they've pulled it. The bad CR they pulled, yes.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
I mean, Johnson, Jim Jordan. Or Elon Musk. I agree with you. Look, the president got shot in the head and four months later won a landslide victory, a sweeping victory. Held the House, took the Senate, took the White House. To me, he gets the team. That's why I'm very upset that Gates... step down. But you got Hegseth, the rest of his team, we have to have their back.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
The war on posse has done an amazing job of fix band as your show has to every day, having their back, making sure that that he gets the team. I also think on the speaker, it's however President Trump thinks. He was a Johnson guy, but it's about performance. And what he had not seen that early in the morning was what a fiasco this was. I knew he'd sit there and go, hey.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
Now, he has said if Johnson mans up, right, and show some leadership, show some discipline, which heretofore we haven't seen. President Trump, I have his back up. That's what President Trump said. Obviously, the war room will go with it and have his back. We will give him our unesparated opinion about what we think and who we think. I think Jim Jordan would be terrific.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
If Elon Musk, if the president wants Elon Musk, let's try it and see what the constitutional scholars say. Because, you know, the Speaker of the House. Is I think much more obviously much more powerful than the Senate pro tem and much more powerful than the vice president. It is the number two most powerful. Nancy Pelosi showed you this.
The Charlie Kirk Show
California or Canada: What's Worse?
Man, it is so great to be with you. I enjoyed that so much. I think it was an absolute triumph, I got to tell you. Can I just tell you, I want to set this up the right way. Please. When I watched the whole thing, what came to my mind was this performance by Margaret Thatcher
The Charlie Kirk Show
California or Canada: What's Worse?
Prime Minister's Questions, go with me on this, where she absolutely eviscerated the then leader of the opposition in the House of Commons, you know that when they're jousting with each other. And there's this phrase that she used that is what came to my mind when I was watching you with Gavin Newsom.
The Charlie Kirk Show
California or Canada: What's Worse?
And she was calling this Labour politician, he was weak, but she did it in this incredible Margaret Thatcher way. And she went, weak, weak, Feeble, like that, incredibly powerful. And that's what I thought of Gavin Newsom. You totally dominated him. And he just came across to me as just utterly weak, weak, feeble, pathetic. It was a total revelation.
The Charlie Kirk Show
California or Canada: What's Worse?
Well, that's exactly right. I mean, you completely dominated him, both with your arguments and also physically. I mean, just watching it. People have to watch it, not just listen to it. You had dominated him. And I think that the... The story here is that he is trying... I mean, look, he's a machine politician. He'll say whatever is politically expedient. I know him personally.
The Charlie Kirk Show
California or Canada: What's Worse?
We have friends in common. I've always been clear about that. And fundamentally... I don't think that he is a left-wing ideologue. I think that he is a machine politician who will say whatever it takes to get on.
The Charlie Kirk Show
California or Canada: What's Worse?
And in the last few years, that has meant pandering to the people who really have the power in the Democratic Party these days, which is the far-left activists and the unions and the government unions. And they're basically the same people now because the unions are run by the far-left activists. So he's gone along with it. But now he realizes that he's got a different audience.
The Charlie Kirk Show
California or Canada: What's Worse?
He's not running in California anymore. This is all about his next move, which has been well telegraphed for years, is running for president. He wants to run for president. And he knows that the same old shtick that he's been getting away with in California won't work on the national level. So I think he's trying to signal that he can get... He's the kind of candidate... that can win nationally.
The Charlie Kirk Show
California or Canada: What's Worse?
I think that's what he's trying to show. The audience he has in mind, I think, are Democrat primary voters in the states that will determine who is the nominee for the party in 2028. And I think the message he's trying to send is, pick me because I'm a winner, because I can actually operate not just in blue states, but in red states, and I can get along with all sorts of people.
The Charlie Kirk Show
California or Canada: What's Worse?
Well, first of all, I'm glad you brought that up because, funnily enough, just like you with Illinois, I'm kind of itching to go on this podcast. And when my book comes out, Califalia, I really, you know, I think we're trying. We'll see if he takes up the offer. Califalia, reversing the ruin of America's worst-run state. And who's been running it the last six years? Gavin Newsom.
The Charlie Kirk Show
California or Canada: What's Worse?
So somehow I don't think he wants to, he doesn't want to engage in that argument. We'll see. But you're exactly right. He just, he has these talking points and... We can call it gaslighting and we can call it spin and so on, but it's not. It really is. Well, it's more than that. It's certainly that. Let's just take that.
The Charlie Kirk Show
California or Canada: What's Worse?
On the transgender issue and the one that really made all the headlines, which was when he was agreeing with you on the unfairness of biological men and girls sports. Okay, fine. But what are you going to do about it? I mean, you've been the governor for six years while that's the law in California. What have you ever done to challenge it? Nothing. What are you doing now to challenge it? Nothing.
The Charlie Kirk Show
California or Canada: What's Worse?
So you could say that is gaslighting and he's trying to convey a position without actually doing anything about it. But on other issues, it's actually just lying, just straight up lying. I mean, not with you, but I just saw with another one of these that he did, he's trying to make out that taxes are somehow lower in California than in Florida by some ridiculous statistical sleight of hand.
The Charlie Kirk Show
California or Canada: What's Worse?
It's total BS. And on any measure, we have the highest taxes in the country. We have the highest income taxes, the highest tax burden on income, you know, on and on. So the truth is that on almost every meaningful measure, California is literally 50th out of 50 states. And if we're not 50th, we're 49th. So I'll give you an example. So for much of last year, He goes on about the great economy.
The Charlie Kirk Show
California or Canada: What's Worse?
For much of last year, 2024, we had the highest unemployment rate in America. Now we're the second highest. There's one state that's worse. And so he can brag all he likes about being the fifth biggest economy. The numbers just aren't there. We have the highest rate of poverty in the country. On and on, you know, the highest housing costs, the lowest home ownership.
The Charlie Kirk Show
California or Canada: What's Worse?
And actually, he does have these ways of wriggling it out of it. I noticed, for example... In his debate with Ron DeSantis, where Ron DeSantis brought up all the exodus of people leaving and so on, Gavin Newsom threw something at him about people going from Florida to California. And when I dug into that, it turned out that that was military transfers.
The Charlie Kirk Show
California or Canada: What's Worse?
nothing to do with people choosing to move to California. So it's total BS. The record is completely appalling on every single issue. And it's true to say that California remains the fifth biggest economy in the world. But in a way, isn't it even more shaming then that we have the worst homelessness crisis, the highest poverty rate? It's totally shameful. And the reason, by the way, that we have
The Charlie Kirk Show
California or Canada: What's Worse?
So, Steve, what's the truth here? It's just a total lie. I mean, I'm just looking it up now because there's, you know, WalletHub published all the data. So he's completely lying. We have the highest tax burden. I'm just reading now from WalletHub.com.
The Charlie Kirk Show
California or Canada: What's Worse?
California has the highest individual income tax burden, while seven states, including Texas, Florida and Washington, have the lowest, including Florida, have the lowest tax. I mean, it's just there's so many different measures. If you look at individual income tax burden, the highest in the country is California.
The Charlie Kirk Show
California or Canada: What's Worse?
If you look at overall tax burden, that's taking everything together, sales tax, everything else, California is number five. and Florida on overall tax burden. Where am I getting to the bottom? We've got to go all the way down to number 47, right? So it's just a total lie. There's no truth to it whatsoever.
The Charlie Kirk Show
California or Canada: What's Worse?
And he's got this incredibly narrow, detailed kind of total BS statistic that where he Gavin Hughes, and he said it in this in the longer clip where he says, well, the people who in California. Working people in California, in Florida, pay the same taxes as the very rich in California. The way he's calculating that is comparing income taxes in California on
The Charlie Kirk Show
California or Canada: What's Worse?
on the very rich with combining all the sales taxes, property taxes and everything else on working class people in California, in Florida. And the fact is that people on lower income spend more of their income on things that attract sales tax than on as a proportion of their income than the very wealthy. So it's just total. The Wall Street Journal ripped that apart when he first said it.
The Charlie Kirk Show
California or Canada: What's Worse?
with Ron DeSantis in the debate. But he keeps saying these things because he just kind of bulldozes through and he says it with his total confidence and kind of asserts it as if it's the truth. It's more than gaslighting. It's lying. We have the highest income tax burden in in the country, the highest income tax rates, on corporate tax. I mean, you name it.
The Charlie Kirk Show
California or Canada: What's Worse?
It's just a disaster, which is, by the way, why do you think people are leaving? Why is anyone leaving such a beautiful state as California? Why are businesses leaving?
The Charlie Kirk Show
California or Canada: What's Worse?
Well, the number one thing is that the executive branch means the absolute nightmare of bureaucratic agencies. Let's call it the administrative state, the swamp in Sacramento, which actually worse than what we have in Washington, because you've had one party rule for so long. You haven't had any kind of input from an opposing ideological point of view. And so you control all that.
The Charlie Kirk Show
California or Canada: What's Worse?
I'll give you a specific example. The governor appoints all the members of the State Board of Education. It's the State Board of Education that sets the curriculum for the public schools. The governor appoints members on the California Air Resources Board. Not all of them, but enough to make a difference.
The Charlie Kirk Show
California or Canada: What's Worse?
The Air Resources Board is what's pushing through the climate extremism, banning gas cars, banning gas stoves, banning gas heaters and boilers and all the rest of the insanity that is raising costs for everyone.
The Charlie Kirk Show
California or Canada: What's Worse?
If you look at the fantastic agriculture industry being completely destroyed by deliberate policy, you appoint the people as governor to the Water Resources Control Board and all those agencies. You can make a pretty much an overnight change because it's these agencies
The Charlie Kirk Show
California or Canada: What's Worse?
that are implementing and far exceeding what's even, it's just the same pathology as you have in Washington, where the legislature, in the case of DC, it's the Congress, passes legislation that's kind of vague. And then the agencies, the bureaucrats, overzealously interpret that, push their own agenda and make it 10 times worse. It's the same pathology in California at the state level.
The Charlie Kirk Show
California or Canada: What's Worse?
And you can reverse it just in the same way. I mean, a simple way of thinking about it is Doge, California. That would make such a difference. And you could start to affect housing costs because the reason housing costs are the highest in the country is because of the overregulation.
The Charlie Kirk Show
California or Canada: What's Worse?
Every year they change the building codes, endless new climate things they add on that make it incredibly expensive. I mean, the median house price is now a million dollars in California. It's ridiculous. So that's where you start, right? With the bureaucracy that you directly control. Now, the second point is vetoing legislation. So this year already, it's unbelievable.
The Charlie Kirk Show
California or Canada: What's Worse?
The number of bills that have been submitted by members of the legislature, 2,000 plus bills. You can veto them. They can override it because they've got to sue 2,000 majority.
The Charlie Kirk Show
LA’s Lesbian Firefighters To the Rescue!
Charlie, you're totally right. I just want to, I'm sorry, I'm running around today. I'm here in LA. It's kind of chaotic. I wanted to be with you earlier, but I was listening to what you're saying and you're completely right. This is what you get when Democrats get everything that they want. That's what's happened in California. For more than a decade, they've had complete control.
The Charlie Kirk Show
LA’s Lesbian Firefighters To the Rescue!
And every single aspect of this crisis, the problems that The long term problems caused by this terrible combination of incompetence and ideological extremism. So exactly as you've been laying out on the water situation, we can have all the water we need in California. My policy organization, Golden Together, we've been putting out policy reports month after month.
The Charlie Kirk Show
LA’s Lesbian Firefighters To the Rescue!
One of them called water abundance, but they haven't done it. We could be keeping the forest, not just in the Sierras and where all the mountains are. And that point's been made that this is not a forest. This is L.A. This is a city. Yeah, but it's the same principle. The chaparral, the conditions on those hillsides, they've been prevented.
The Charlie Kirk Show
LA’s Lesbian Firefighters To the Rescue!
I know people personally who've tried to clear the brush on their property and have been prevented by officials and bureaucrats. Unbelievable. captured by this ideological extremism. And here's another point that people aren't talking about enough, Charlie, the short-term point, the devastating fear that people have because of the insurance crisis.
The Charlie Kirk Show
LA’s Lesbian Firefighters To the Rescue!
So people have been saying, well, the insurance companies have pulled out of California. All these people aren't insured. What are they going to do? Yeah, but why have they pulled out? That also is the result of Democrat policy. Why? Because it costs so much to build anything here. Because of the environmental regulations, the labor regulations. So rebuilding costs are so high.
The Charlie Kirk Show
LA’s Lesbian Firefighters To the Rescue!
That's why insurance companies have pulled out. And on top of that, they have artificially capped the rates that insurers can charge. That's Democrat policy as well. So every single aspect of this. And you know, one last point, right? They say Gavin Newsom, you saw him waving his arms around and saying, you can't politicize this. Well, hang on a second. What do they do?
The Charlie Kirk Show
LA’s Lesbian Firefighters To the Rescue!
They're second that there's one of these dreadful mass shootings. They are right in there before the bodies are even buried, blaming Republicans, demanding policy change. So we're not going to take any of this crap from them. This is exactly the right time to point out that their failures have made this crisis immeasurably worse for millions of people.
The Charlie Kirk Show
LA’s Lesbian Firefighters To the Rescue!
Well, it has to be, Charlie, because we have to have change in California. Anyone who didn't realize that before this surely must now realize this. And it's interesting to me that people are not holding back. They're not saying, well, let's talk about all this after the event. There's so much anger here because these points have been made for years now.
The Charlie Kirk Show
LA’s Lesbian Firefighters To the Rescue!
This is not some new discovery that we need to manage our forest better or that we need to capture the abundant water we have. and collect it and store it and get it to where it's needed. None of this is new. We've been going on about it for years.
The Charlie Kirk Show
LA’s Lesbian Firefighters To the Rescue!
And so this is a wake-up moment because we've got to make sure nothing like this happens again and put in place the common sense policies that will build up our infrastructure, prepare us for natural disasters. Look, disasters happen everywhere, but in places that are badly run, Steve.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
We've got a million dead or wounded Ukrainians and 700,000 dead or wounded Russians. everything they have done is try to destroy this country, and that is the power of Trump's story. This is what I would tell people. It's not going to be Ron DeSantis. It's not going to be Nikki Haley. This country has a narrative. This is the new Jerusalem, and we have a path in front of us.
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Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
Trump is a very imperfect guy. His imperfection makes it a more powerful story, that he is imbued by divine providence to lead a movement to save this country, and that's it.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
Yeah, Steve, some people in the room may or may not know that you were in prison. Could you tell us a little bit about your experience there?
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Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
Thank you. It's a great question. I'm very proud I was a political prisoner. Nancy Pelosi thought she was going to break me. I came out empowered and she's broken. It was a very dangerous place. But there are many, many good people. And I tell you, I saw Trump's victory there. That's the only time I put something out was on, I think, August 26th. It said victories at hand.
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Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
The politics of joy was a lie. The prisoners in there, the Hispanics and African-Americans hate the Democratic Party. And they hated Kamala Harris and they hated Joe Biden. And about 60 percent voted or their families voted for Trump. But the other 40 percent wouldn't vote. Right there. The Hispanics and African Americans, right, that is the basis of our 1932 realignment, and I saw it.
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Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
It's not about me. It's not about what happened in prison, but I got to tell you, they empowered me in no way, and she's broken, right? Not the hip. That's unfortunate. I mean, no, politically. Politically, she's been shattered, and we're stronger than ever, but thanks for the question.
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Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
Amen. Day one.
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Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
So – I was not in a camp. I was in a federal prison, okay? And we had a lot of J6 folks there. What they did to those people in D.C., and this is why the investigations have to take place, the people that tormented and tortured them in D.C. prison, war crimes. They have to be tried, they have to be investigated, and they're going to go to prison. All the way up to Matthew Gray.
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Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
It's the last four years. President Trump leaves after having the 2020 election stolen. Pretty obvious. Goes to Mar-a-Lago. The political class totally abandons him. You know, there's a handful of people that have his back. He starts coming back. He makes a decision, the most courageous decision in the history of American politics, because he knew what was going to be in front of him.
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Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
We're never going to stop on that. What happened to those individuals is unacceptable. We can never let it happen again.
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Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
It's worse now. First off, executive privilege was just one. Depending on my lawyer for advice who told me I followed everything he told me that. But the most important was the illegitimacy of the committee. Yeah, that's remember the committee. It was illegally banks and Jordan were let go.
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Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
And so for the first time, a major select committee did not have a ranking member and did not have minority council. Remember, you didn't get the evidence, and you couldn't cross-examine the witnesses. This is about Cassie Hutchinson and all of it. It was a total sham. And now Benny Thompson on national TV is saying he would take a pardon if given to him.
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Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
Cheney, Loudermilk, and this is my problem with both McCarthy and Johnson. They've had years to sit there and get rid of all the... Just take the committee and throw it out and start over again. And we have to have a real investigation of the 2020... And by the way... The more we're transparent, the better. We know we have the facts. Make it totally transparent.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
On the 2020 election, on J6, the day, and what they didn't do in the Fed's erection part of it. July 13th. July 13th. All of it. All the events. On day one, President Trump should declassify about five million pages of classified information. They use the classified information.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
Look, I had above a top-secret clearance when I was 20-some years old coming back as a naval officer in my destroyer and then coming back to the Pentagon. And then I had a high-security clearance. I think 99% of it is to keep the information from you. Trust me. They don't want the people actually be part of the decision-making process.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
And I can tell you in the last eight years with President Trump and this populist movement, you guys make pretty good decisions. If you gave me the choice to be governed by the top 100 partners at Goldman Sachs or Cravath or Sullivan and Cromwell, McKinsey or Bruce Allen, and the first 100 people that walked in this room, I'd take you 100 every day. Right? No. No.
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Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
More humanity, more empathy, more understanding life, more common sense, more knowledge, more drive. It's obvious. This is what the country's so successful. It's not them. It's you. And they want to hold that back, that committee. And we can never allow this to happen again. But I got to tell you, you see, now they're not just talking preemptive blanket pardons. Think about that.
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Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
Preemptive blanket pardons. Norm Eisen is on TV last night talking about blanket amnesty. They are scared to death. And we owe it to this republic, to every patriot's grave, all the way back to the founding of this republic, the new Jerusalem, to hunt it down to the ends of the earth and bring them to justice.
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Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
He knew that they were going to— you know, try to bankrupt his company and destroy his family and eventually indict him. And so it was this courageous moral courage to come back, and that was in 2021. The precinct strategies. Scott Pressler trying to – going out and changing the architecture of these states, of the electorate, whether it was Arizona or Pennsylvania. And people going door to door.
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Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
Oh, he's going to get tossed out. He's going to get tossed out. The populace is going to win. First off, the letter from Freeland was brutal. And she's no day at the beach, right? She's very cunning. But her letter, she said, you're not taking seriously President Trump's aggressive economic nationalism. And you're not keeping our powder dry. The deficits are too big. This current budget.
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Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
She said, I'm out. I mean, she's trying to take his job. I think he's cooked. He is... He shows you what Hillary Clinton would have done to this country, right? That's the type of globalist party of Davos he is.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
A hand grenade with a bad haircut. He was the first, really, on the national stage fire-breathing popular, I guess, since Huey Long or William Jennings Bryan or Andrew Jackson. Yeah, not as good as great again. Almost, I got that close. One more final question here.
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Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
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Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
This is what populism is. It doesn't need – you don't need tons of money. You don't need any one or two leaders. It comes from the people itself. It's a sovereign will of the people. And you saw your energy and your focus and your determination took the 2022 election. President Trump then announced right afterwards. Look at what happened a year ago.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
Well, saying he's not churchy, I think he has a very spiritual side to him. I mean, Donald Trump's got a big heart. He's a very kind individual.
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Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
Right. A lot of what you see is kind of, you know, kind of the negotiating bravado. He's a he's a very he's actually and I think he's gotten more spiritual since the assassination attempt. You've seen a very different time. Look, I'm a huge fan of Modi's. Right. So I think we've got a we've got a, you know, President Trump will look into it. But it's horrible what's going on over there.
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Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
But, you know, Modi is the best. He's the best nationalist in the world. What he's done in India is second to none.
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Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
Well, I think all of these, and particularly Arizona, the whole situation in 2020, you have to have a full and deep investigation, and also with the voting. You just have to. But it has to be completely transparent, and it has to be completely transparent. If a commission's set up or if it's in the House or whatever, you have to make sure that the American people can see this.
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Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
It must be fully transparent. I happen to believe there's so much there because, listen— What Turning Point did in Arizona is historic. I mean, we turned it around. So five and a half point win.
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Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
It's three parts to how you get there. Number one is the Scott Presser or the mentality to go change the composition of the electorate by doing voter registration, sitting in those parking lots and 105 degrees and doing it. That's grinding it out.
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Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
The other part is the canvassing and getting out the vote and making sure you have the phone banks, you have all of it, that huge logistics ground and volunteers that do it over and over and over again. And the last part is training up the election integrity. So you're sitting at the table and they can't steal it like they tried to steal it before. Those three elements came together.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
I will tell you that 2020, Donald John Trump won Arizona. It's absolutely no doubt. And Carrie Lake is the legitimate governor of Arizona. No doubt. No doubt. So, Colonel, I think we have to be methodical about this. I think we have to go about it so it's purely transparent and everybody, the community buys in so we say it can never, ever happen again.
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Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
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The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
Look where we were a year ago at this conference. Remember, all the primaries had not come. The general election had not come. And look at the energy and enthusiasm that Turning Point had. And look at the work that Turning Point did, particularly in Arizona and in Pennsylvania. You guys deserve. the vanguard of a revolutionary movement, just like in 1775. And victory begets victory.
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Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
Charlie Kirk's running the White House folks. I want to thank Charlie. He's an incredible guy. His spirit, his love of this country. He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
You just supported an individual that has had the greatest political comeback in the history of the world. That was you. If you guys had faltered, if you guys had quit, if you guys had just said, I don't know if we can do this, it was your agency and a collective, the sovereign will of the people. That's why it trumps back. And what you saw here in the last 72 hours is just more of the D.C. same.
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Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
It's the same bipartisanship kind of old Republican Party thinking. Is that clear? No, it's very clear.
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Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
Think about this thing with Johnson. Having turfed out McCarthy because of the spending, and he's hanging with Vivek. He's hanging with Elon Musk. He's hanging with the president. Every time I look, whether it's a UFC fight or the box at the Army-Navy game or every time, he's hanging around, right? Yeah. And he, out of nowhere, there's supposed to be a CR. There's supposed to be two lines.
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Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
Because remember, always remember, the CR itself is just continual spending from the old budget. It's about 500.
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Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
We don't support. In principle.
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Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
We hate them all. The only reason this is necessary is because this kicks it into President Trump's administration. This is where he's got Russ Vought at OMB. This is where he has the House, the Senate, the executive branch, his team's back, Scott Besson, Russ Vought, Peter Navarro. He gives President Trump a chance to craft the current fiscal year we're in. And what happens?
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Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
This should be a two-line thing. And if the farmer's bill's late, you need a couple of billion, you need $10 billion for the farmers or $20 billion. The FEMA, there should be offsets. It's simple to do the offsets. There's offsets in there. You can do offsets for the FEMA money. And quite frankly, find out why FEMA hasn't given the cash they have, right? You have to drill down.
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Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
What does he give us? Fifteen hundred pages that's negotiated from weeks and weeks and weeks. And it's a King Jeffries. There's so many. It's a it's a Democrat bill. Two thirds. And it lays another, I don't know, 300 billion dollars of spending. So then you have a trillion dollars, essentially 800 billion to a trillion dollars for this one quarter. It's just it's this madness.
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Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
And they insult your intelligence by not telling anybody, just dropping it on people. It's so complicated. And you just read from the bio labs to the pandemic, to the
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Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
Biolabs and the Global Engagement Center that went out of their way to shut us all down. They're funding that. If you go through this – and they have provisions there. You can't do investigations. It's a mess, and it was highly negotiated, and they hit it.
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Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
And it has a pay raise. That has a pay raise. We just won. We just won by bringing African-Americans, Hispanics, white working class in this bill in this coalition. It's like 1932.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
And these people, the lived experience, they're not buying the happy talk of mainstream media that the economy is doing great because it's doing great for the top one percent for the oligarchs because of federal spending. And here you give a pay raise from one hundred seventy three thousand bucks, 74 percent. And not just that.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
If they had put it up front on the cover and said, look, people, you know, have been haven't had a pay raise in 10 years. They can't support their families. And by the way, we know the guy got shot in the back and they're seething anger among people about this insurance. But we want to opt out of Obamacare, although we voted it for you guys. Right. If they had put that up front.
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Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
If they put it up front and not hit it on page 900 of the bill, it'd be different. You'd say no, but at least you wouldn't try to hide things. This shows you it's not just Johnson. Clearly, he must be removed, but it's not him. It's deeper than that. This is the mindset of the political class. This is how they think. And they think you always have to compromise. You always go with supplicants.
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Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
You weren't supplicants when you walked these, when you canvassed these neighborhoods. You weren't supplicants when Pressler went out and changed the architecture of the voting population of Pennsylvania. You weren't supplicants when you had Trump's back in Georgia, in New York City, in Florida, when you were standing outside protesting when he was hauled before these fake judges.
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Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
We haven't been supplicants in four years. Why would we do it when we win? We don't have to. We just have to be on offense.
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Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
That's what I'm saying. It's a malignant cancer. It's this mindset. And then they also don't understand the new ecosystem of media. First off— You people thrive for information. That's what you're doing. So this is why you're doing Charlie Kirk. Look, the war room is not an easy watch. We don't do a crack a lot of jokes or have it's not. We're not chasing.
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Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
You know, we don't chase the shiny toys that people want to want to know.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
It's tough. And Charlie Kirk, not a lot of laughs. No. But why do you... Listen, you're a cadre. These shows are not for a mass audience. We will never be the biggest show. Charlie will never be the biggest show. We'll see. You're a... You're... I want to do sponsorships for Charlie, so I'll knock down things. We'll see.
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Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
No. It's a great point.
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Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
If you look at any revolutionary movement, if you look at the revolution, our American revolution, you have cadres, small groups of people that form together. They get information. This was the committees of correspondence. This was the subtext of the revolution. This is what led to the Continental Congress.
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Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
This is what led the Continental Congress to say, hey, look, we've actually got to declare independence. We can't work with the House of Commons anymore. That is what you are. Please remember your place in history when the history of this age is written. They will not remember Elon Musk. They will not remember Tucker Carlson. They're not going to remember Charlie Kirk or Steve Bannon.
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Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
It's going to be the age of Trump, and they're going to remember the MAGA movement. They're going to say a movement came up from the 2008 financial crisis. It took decades to build, but eventually it took over the politics of the country, of the American republic, and saved the American republic. That's what you guys are. And you just had a historic win. You don't need to sit there.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
When Johnson sends you 1,500 pages, you go, no, we're not going to do this. We're not going to play these games. We're not going to do this anymore. The country's heading towards bankruptcy. We have to have Trump's back getting him here. So right now, I say, shut it down.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
Okay. Okay. And this is the reason the mainstream media is meaningless now. Because if you watch the 6 o'clock broadcast news, it's so stupid, right? Quite frankly, even if you watch MSNBC and CNN, it's so ridiculous. Not just biased, stupid. Fox is Fox, right?
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Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
If you look at the podcast, if you look at the Twitter, these different social media platforms, all the information, the force multiplier, the hardest job I have every day and the producers of my show is to keep ahead of you. To make sure that, hey, they've heard this. They know this, right? What are we going to tell them? Driving. Driving. What information are we going to have that's new to them?
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
How do we make sure that we're always at the cutting edge? And that is the compliment to you. This is what populism is. Your agency is driving this. Not any, at least think about it for a second. Let's go back to 2021. Look at all, go to Fox, go to MSNBC, go to CNN. Just read the papers, Washington Post, every pundit. Trump is finished. Trump is dead. MAGA's finished. MAGA's dead.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
Over and over and over again. It was their mantra. You just won the biggest election and comeback in American history. The pundits were wrong and you were right. I want you to understand that. You were right politically, right? You were right as political scientists. You don't have to have a PhD from the University of Chicago. That is you and you and you. You did this.
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Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
Thanks for having me.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
There's nothing that can stop what you want to accomplish for this country. And that's why they got to still try to destroy Trump. And that's quite frankly where they still have to destroy this movement.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
I saw 16 when I got to the when there's 14 points down. They called me in August 13th because I was running Breitbart and I had a conversation with President Trump. He's like 12 or 14 points down with the Muslim family, with the Constitution. That's right. Khan Khan and the thing spinning out of control. And I said, hey, 100, because he says, how are we going to turn this around?
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
Because Ryan's about to cut us loose. Mitch McConnell's about to cut us loose. I said 100 percent metaphysical certitude. You will win. Right. We just got to focus on these couple of issues and we have to go to the blue wall. And he said, what? I said, we got to go to Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania.
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Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
We're going to pierce the blue wall because the lived experience of the American people is terrible right now.
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Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
Was there something in your life that made you see it? Well, I come from a blue collar family, right? I come from a working class, you know, Democrat family. Quite frankly, we were all Democrats until the Vietnam War and then President Reagan. But it's simple to say you just see the lived experience of how people live. You just see that you can understand the math of the economics.
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Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
The American people, we've hollowed out the greatest country in the world. We were a manufacturing superpower with high value added jobs that an individual like my dad could be a foreman for the phone company and have a stay at home mom that raised the kids and have five kids that all went to Catholic school and then all went to college. Right. That's not you can't do that today. It's impossible.
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Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
Why can't you do that? Well, they tell you they give you all this stuff. And I said, this is not the second law of thermodynamics. This is not some inevitable law. It's not the physical property of the universe. It's because people make conscious decisions to ship the jobs overseas because they made money with having the Lao Baixing, the Chinese slave labor, do the jobs. It can all be reversed.
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Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
You just have to have policies to reverse it. And President Trump, that's why—look, President Trump is not a particularly churchy individual, okay? He's not. He's not. But he is an instrument of divine providence, okay? I've seen it up close. No, I saw it in 16. In 16, we had no money. We had a plane. We had a man. We had a message in about 10 of us, right?
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Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
Well, we're in the ascended stage, but you're going to hit speed bumps like today. I mean, this is absolutely humiliating, not for us, but for the standard way that Washington, D.C., thinks, right? I mean, today we saw conventional thinking. We saw this bipartisanship, that it's a malignant cancer inside our body. Politics has to be cut out. And look over the last—it's not just the last year.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
And he defeated Hillary Clinton, the Clinton mafia, particularly in Michigan, Wisconsin. And here's why. The first thing we did on the campaign, I took it over. I said, we're going to go to Flint, Michigan. And he goes, that's a democratic city. I go, exactly where are we going to go? You can go to Flint. She can't. Then he went to Mexico and met the president because you can go to Mexico.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
She can't. You could go to places that people all of a sudden see. And remember, they hated him so much, they tried to destroy him right from the beginning, from the very first second that we won. In 2020, it is obvious from the mathematics that he won the 2020 election. It was stolen, right? Yeah. But that was providential.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
In this arc of this story, in the arc of this story, they had to steal it. Because we had to see, and more Americans had to see how radical they are, how they are neo-Marxists, how they would destroy this country. Now they're all coming out with the stories. about the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal in the last 48 hours, how Biden was never really present.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
They had to cover up in the National Security Council everything we've been saying for the last four years they now admit is true, right? And they never invoked the 25th Amendment. They allowed 15 million invaders into our country. They got us involved in all these forever wars all over. They shipped a quarter of a trillion dollars to Ukraine that we still don't understand why.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Elon Musk: Public Enemy #1
Play cut to a five to see this white women with at least a college degree. The only group of white voters that really kind of is on the left politically aligned with progressive causes, democratic politics. Give me an example. Here's that question. Excuse me. Right here that we asked about in our poll. We had two big statements we read to voters.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Elon Musk: Public Enemy #1
Basically, do you want to continue DEI programs or do you think they should be ended? And again, look at this divide here. White men, no degree, end it. White men with a degree, end it, they say. White women, no degree, end it, they say, by double digits. And then white women with a college degree, completely different by a nearly 40-point margin, they say, to continue D.E.I.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Elon Musk: Public Enemy #1
We found something we've never found before in more than 30 years of this poll. What you're looking at here is the image of each political party, the Democrats and the Republicans. And look at this, this blue, it's the Democrats voting. Minus 28, it says. What does that mean? It means that when we ask this, do you have a positive or negative view of the party?
The Charlie Kirk Show
Elon Musk: Public Enemy #1
Just 27% of voters say they have a positive image of the Democratic Party. 55% say they think of the Democratic Party negatively. That's negative 28 points. This is the trend line going back 30 years. You can see neither party has ever come anywhere near as close to this. It's fallen off a cliff, that number has for Democrats since the election.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Elon Musk: Public Enemy #1
Charlie, what you've done is incredible here. Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.
The Daily Show: Ears Edition
Jon Stewart on Trump’s Heel Turn on Zelenskyy & Elon's Interview Challenge | Matthew Desmond
It's a global revolt. It's a zeitgeist. We're on the right side of history. The beating heart of the globalist project is in Brussels. If I drive the state through the vampire, the whole thing will start to dissipate. We'll call it the movement or the cause or something like that. And that's literally when we take over the EU.
The Ezra Klein Show
Don't Believe Him
The opposition party is the media. And the media can only, because they're dumb and they're lazy, they can only focus on one thing at a time. All we have to do is flood the zone. Every day, we hit them with three things. They'll bite on one, and we'll get all of our stuff done. Bang, bang, bang. These guys will never be able to recover. But we've got to start with muzzle velocity.
The Ezra Klein Show
Don't Believe Him
Muzzle velocity. You've got to, when you get anything in line.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media Obsessed with January 6 To Smear Trump Supporters, and Biden's Bizarre Outburst, with Ben Shapiro and Glenn Greenwald | Ep. 976
You need to study modern political history of the fights we've been through for 12 or 14 years to get to this spot. We're not having group hugs. We're not having pats on the head. I've said many times that Elon came and Elon's money helped organize the grassroots of it. In his engineering mind, he saw what the problem was as we saw it, and he supported it.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media Obsessed with January 6 To Smear Trump Supporters, and Biden's Bizarre Outburst, with Ben Shapiro and Glenn Greenwald | Ep. 976
And for that, he gets a place at the table. There's no doubt you should. They're recent converts. But the converts sit in the back and study for years and years and years to make sure you understand the faith. Don't come up and go to the pulpit in your first week here and start lecturing people about the way things are going to be.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media Obsessed with January 6 To Smear Trump Supporters, and Biden's Bizarre Outburst, with Ben Shapiro and Glenn Greenwald | Ep. 976
If you're going to do that, we're going to get and we're going to rip your face off.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Why would Republicans be a little concerned? Is it about losing the district? That might be a stretch. There's nobody in the House. There's no Democrat in the House who has won in a district like this recently. But would they be embarrassed by a smaller, a significantly smaller margin? That's certainly possible.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
I'd actually say the Catholic Church is worse. The Episcopal is just some bishop up there, you know, yammering like they all yammer on the left. It's just talk. The Catholic Church has been actions. I mean, definitively, you could actually say, Brother Holman, I think their business model, this is how I got it with Dolan years ago. The business model, as you know,
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
The churches have been emptied from traditional parishioners because of the pedophilia crisis and other things. This left-wing doctrine, they filled it up with illegal aliens. They have a business model that supports this.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
On top of all that, they just appointed the most open borders cardinal in America, I think it's McElroy, to be the cardinal over at the Basilica here in Washington, D.C., basically the cardinal for one of the most powerful, not the most powerful, but archdiocese in the country, Washington, D.C., and then he speaks for the pope here, and he's going to be in the president's grill.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
He's an open borders guy, which says no deportation. So there are many institutions, source-backed, philanthropy, religious, that were all part of this. This just didn't happen. The people that are kind of the victims here are the 12 to 15 million that came up. But they can't stay. We have to be the stern parent here. They cannot stay because they're destroying other citizens in this country.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
They have to go home because you're here on CNBC. All the economic reasons they got to stay is going to be inflationary. It's this. It's that. It costs too much money. All of it. Bottom line, if we're a constitutional republic, you can't be invaded. This is about our sovereignty. They all must go home.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And I believe you have to have a massive investigation, a criminal investigation with a grand jury and a special prosecutor about how this happened, how this happened. And people have to be held accountable. If we cannot hold those responsible accountable, then we're going to lose our sovereignty that way.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
They could definitely be undone. And I say this about the January 6th. As you know, it has to be because they did it so late. They did it. It was his Justice Department. It has to be Pam Bondi and the Justice Department that has to do this. And remember, Emil Bovi... The number three guy in the Justice Department was actually on the raids with Homan over the weekend.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
We actually did a sidebar interview with him, my guy Ben Berquam. He said he was outraged, outraged by what he saw as obstruction by officials, government officials in Chicago to stop this. So that's what I'm saying. We have to adjudicate all this. And these pardons, all of the pardons, of
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
including for Cheney, all of them actually had to be executed by the Justice Department because Biden waited too late. And so I think that all of those ought to be in play. Tom Fenton is adamant about this. Tom Fenton doesn't think any of these pardons and we got to look at these ones. The pardon process is so detailed and takes so many years.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
It is impossible in this situation in Connecticut for that to happen. Right. It's just because you have every piece of record that's there. You don't know what they're slipping into the deck to have Biden just sign off on. So this whole thing, the whole pardon thing, but tied back to also illegal immigration has to be fully investigated. And we got to get to the bottom of it.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
And I would tell Pam Bondi, do not execute on any of the pardons for anybody until we get to the bottom of it.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
I mean, the good news is that people have common sense because this is a revolution of common sense. That's why that's why this movement, this progressive nationalist movement is expanding every day because folks, African-Americans, Hispanic families and working class men and women understand that this is to protect them. And they understand that all the performative, like how phony is that?
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
And they can see through it. And they understand how this has destroyed their communities and they're not going to tolerate it anymore. And they're certainly not going to be backed off by her or by Martha Raddatz. with Tom Holman.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
I mean, you understand now why the mainstream media is virtually powerless because of her hectoring of Tom Holman, particularly hectoring, remember, about the military flights. You're telling me every day military flights? They weren't concerned when they were having flights bring in bringing folks in here and taking them deep into the country, like up at the Westchester Airport.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
So you then could spread out the illegal aliens into New England, right? In upstate New York. So this just shows you, the mainstream media, this is why they're so...
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
powerless today and i don't think we should be you know even paying much attention to them we just got to report more information get more facts out there more stories out there and just let the camera roll and see the heroes like tom holman see the heroes of the military they've been sent to the southern border see the heroes uh you know in every aspect of what we're trying to do to deconstruct the administrative state and take on the deep state just cut the cameras on and watch the watch the senate hearings last week where they had no
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
They had no punchback on any of the deep policy stuff that Senator Rubio brought up. Or that Pete Hex had talked about a revolution in military affairs, and he had these heritants. All they're doing is going after his personal foibles every second. They didn't even get to the heart of the matter, and now Pete Hex is secretary of defense and has to get on with it and start to execute on this.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
So I think our audiences grow every day, and they grow with the engagement. And to know that they blew her up after that phony C-level actress performance is, to me, It's encouraging. That's really encouraging because so is the American people and their decency. Remember, American people have tremendous common sense, tremendous grit, but they also have tremendous decency.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
It's the most decent group of people in world history. The most empathetic, they've given more, have freed more people, given their lives, freeing more people, giving money everywhere. The American people are very decent and they understand what's going on here. And they fully back President Trump in this regard to clean this mess up.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
They're not looking to go to cocktail parties in Georgetown. I thought JD, because JD's a real gentleman. But finally, it was like the frustration, Margaret, I don't care. That said, CBS has so lost its way. ABC has so lost its way. It's shocking. You know, Margaret Brennan's just not at the level that you can be to run these Sunday shows. And Martha Raddick's right there. It's just hectoring.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
And you saw last night they got the two new anchors at CBS during the championship game. I think it was the AFC playoffs. I said, man, if that's, you know, Donald was bad enough. Is this an upgrade? This is another disaster. These guys – and this is why – remember the audience is only four and a half million. It's not that big an audience anymore.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
You were doing that at Fox and you're bigger on your podcast when you count everything. So it shows you that the mainstream media – and they're going to be – they're going to have nothing but deportation porn. from here on in, because this is where they're going. But I think the American people have had a belly full of it, and they understand something has to be done.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
And I love the way that in a very professional, even-handed way, that people like Holman and J.D. are kind of the tip of the spear. But I think you're going to see this across the board with everybody. I think you're going to see Secretary Rubio and Pete Hexeth across the board, Pam Bondi. We're not going to count them. They're not looking to go to cocktail parties in Georgetown. They're
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
They're there to save this country and return it to her greatness under President Trump's leadership. And I think that's what you're seeing.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
Well, he does it like he does it such a gentleman. I mean, finally, the exasperation when they're just going to continue on and continue on and continue on all of them. And I think this is why they've lost the backing of the American people. It's why the ratings are a disaster, why the cost of these things they're going through and cutting everybody's salary. The salaries are outrageous.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
The first one is cutting salaries. You see right there in J.D. He tries. He makes an argument, puts the facts out. It just continues on, continues on. I mean, it's not a interview. It's a debate. Right. And finally, it says, look, I don't care. And the American people don't care. Next question. Which I think is great.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
I think it's just laziness. I think they've controlled the apparatus for so long. I mean, you've seen this. You know these people. They've gotten lazy. That's one of the reasons they were caught by surprise on 5 November. One of the reasons that MSNBC's ratings dropped by two-thirds is that they lied to their audience. Their problem is credibility.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
Half that audience is never coming back because they felt they were lied to all the way up until Pennsylvania was called. And even that night on the broadcast, I've gone back and studied the arc of the broadcast. They lied to their people. They all thought Kamala Harris was a historic night. Kamala Harris, that's where they had the huge crowd at Howard University.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
These people lied to people and then later said, well, you know, you know, we actually knew the polling wasn't that great to the end. They outright lie and they will lie. Because they control every institution. They control the institutional power in the country, and they got very lazy.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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They never thought a startup group like MAGA, these kind of populist nationalists with no money and really no institutional power could get in back of someone like President Trump. It's the reason they treated Trump so badly. Remember the felonies that he was charged with just on insurrection in J6 left him in prison for 300 years. They wanted him to die in prison.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
Until you embrace that fact that they wanted him to die in prison, a man that looks like – look what's happened in the last seven days. I mean when he went to Notre Dame Cathedral, he looked like Charlemagne walking in there. He is now on the world stage as the most powerful individual and really driving all the action. Right.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Of everything the American government's doing in every different aspect, like 30 different verticals simultaneously. He's the most powerful president, I think, for even more so than Reagan. I think you got to go back to FDR. And I put him in the category with General Washington and actual Abraham Lincoln as the age of Trump and what he's doing here. They wanted him to die in prison.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
Until you understand that, they never thought we were coming back. That's why it was that Jay Monahan could lie at Davos on the stage, said, we never debanked anybody. I go, what are you talking about? We were all banked. Our credit cards were taken. We were debanked. The insurance policies were canceled because they never thought we would be back in a billion years. They said this at Davos.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
Graham Allison said beforehand, he gave on one of these panels before Trump came, he said, This guy was dead. And he says, I mean, dead. He resurrected himself in his movement, resurrected. He says, Graham Allison said, we sat here and mocked those guys for the last four years. They never thought we were coming back. And now that's why it has to be.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
I think you said the beginning, you know, all pedal, no brake. We only have so much time to get all this done and to seize institutional power. And that's why I think people have got to be working seven days a week, 24 hours a day to make it happen. And all the shows, all the different shows have to back up.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
The difference we have this time is like the 12 or 15 most powerful people in the administration last time in the White House are all on the outside. We're all on the outside sitting there supporting the president every day with that outside effort, that outside push that you need to make sure that, like you've just done here, to break it down to the American people.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And it's more than just a conservative audience. Now you're seeing more and more people saying, well, I want to find out about this. And they like what they hear. We're about to flip California. California, I've lived down in California and Southern California for 20 or 30 years. I'm very familiar with property and Pacific Palisades, let's say that.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
And those people out there are starting to flip because they realize all the policies they supported for so many years. Really, we're the predicate for how this could happen. And now they're seeing the nightmare of Bass and Newsom and just this blob that won't let them get on with their lives. And they're saying we had enough. Trump comes out and has done more in 24 hours than all these guys did.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
So we're in a unique moment in American history, but now a much broader. I say that MAGA. And the MAGA beliefs are two-thirds of 70% of the country. It's like 1932. We can have an inflection point in this country and essentially govern for 50 years. If we take immediate action on what needs to be done, we stay decent and empathetic, but we take action and we're relentless about that action.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
This also gets back to the new economic model where he talks about external revenue service and actually not just looking at tariff as a punitive tariff against a Mexican tomato for 25 percent, but a whole new way you look at the economy of the United States inside the golden door.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
The operating leverage we have as the United States over technology and sanctions and cash flow and capital markets and all of it. including tariffs, is enormous. And President Trump only brought, he said, tariffs and then sanctions. He only brought about 50% of the toolbox. Our power is almost unlimited about what we can do in a non-kinetic way. But it's just never been used. We're just a sap.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
And President Trump, like he said, between holes in a round that he was on a roll on, he just said, here's what I want to do, bang, bang, bang. The state and Treasury go out with that in an announcement. 90 minutes, enough time that they get to write a press release, as you know, they full surrendered.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
So this is very important for what it shows about the power of the United States in dealing with both our friends and our enemies. The one thing, and I have been an advocate for this behind the scenes, because you saw in the Honduras and the Central America, I say get everybody up here, either McAllen, Texas, D.C., pick it.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
It should be Mark or Ruby, I think, first, and Besson, then the president later. Walk them through and say, guys, here's the number of folks you have. Here's what we're going to do. Here's when they're coming back. Here's how we're going to schedule military airlift command to do it. If we need some help, we're open to a conversation on how to figure this out. But
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
They're coming back, and they're coming back on a date cert. And if you don't like it, let us know now, because here's what we're gonna do. Bang, bang, bang, and you'll have all of them say, okay, I got it. How do we work this out? We have to be empathetic about this, and this is the way to do it, but Trump showed the innate power of the United States of America.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And that power comes from the little guy, the full faith and credit of the United States. The reason we're so powerful is we rest upon Burke's little platoons of folks just self-organizing every day and getting their job done, going to work, paying their taxes, building their community. That's the power of this country. And finally, somebody stood up and said, guess what?
The Megyn Kelly Show
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We're more powerful than everybody. And here's what we're going to do. But you're taking these bad hombres back. And I think later you're going to take a lot more back. I think it's magnificent, and I just think it ought to continue rapidly. We ought to get them all in a room, cut a deal now, as Trump's the dealmaker, and set up a schedule. Everybody's going home.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
So then you can take down the temperature of the deportation porn, which, as you can tell from this weekend's Sunday show, is coming.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
This is like a dream or a hat or a hat from the godfather that is a full gangster or full. Hey, here's a power. You said earlier about about Homan and J.D. and J.D. being such a gentleman and Homan kind of be. So matter of fact, Trump doesn't give two fucks. OK, this is what you're saying. He doesn't care. He didn't care what they think about him. He doesn't care what the media think.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
They're going to put him in prison. He knows this. He was in prison, going to be in prison for 300 years on the phony charges of the insurrection. Emil Bovi was one of his great attorneys for many of those years. That's why Emil's out there and sees the madness that's going on right now of officials doing it. People, we don't care about the performance art of the left anymore.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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It's come very close to destroying this country and destroying the citizens of this country. And finally- Finally, through divine providence, we have a leader with all his imperfections who is going to stand up for the American people and the American citizens and, quite frankly, the citizens that were invited in here by this illegitimate Biden regime that now have to go back.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And President Trump, I think you've already seen, is in a way trying to do this with as much empathy as possible. So that's why I couldn't be prouder of President Trump and how he's handling this entire thing.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Well, you also have Pam Bondi and cash Pam Bondi for another round. So Wednesday, Thursday, Wednesday, Thursday, and particularly Thursday is going to be showtime. Um, I think Bobby Kennedy's going to be in good shape. You saw the traitors on Friday. You saw Mitch McConnell playing that game and having to bring J.D. over to get Pete across the line. So you know who the opposition is.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
The opposition is that old hidebound Republican establishment. I think Bobby Kennedy, RFK Jr., is going to be fine. He's commanding material. I think he also may pull in a Democrat or two. So I think that'll be fine. I think Kash Patel, which of all these this week, they're all important, I think is the most important. I think Cash gets through. I think Pam gets through. I think Tulsi's an issue.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
The scale, the depth, and the urgency. Those three things. I think folks should understand the comeback of President Trump politically took four years. from when he got back to Mar-a-Lago. People like Stephen Miller and Russ Vogt and Scott, people have been working on this for years.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
And I think Tulsi's an issue not for previous. I think they're all over her right now of her command of the material. And that's why I think the behind the scenes is going to be more important than the upfront. Remember, what they're trying to do, and this is why they had no pushback last week when we flooded the zone. You saw Marco Rubio talking about the end of the post-war rules-based order.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
Pete Hex is talking about revolution and military affairs. Both Vogt and Besson combined talking about a new kind of economic model for the country and also... uh, about how we're going to finance it. These were all to, to the, really the heart of the Trump America first restructuring in this country. And there was no pushback. Scott Besson did the best.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
And this is why I advise people like cash and Pam and everybody when they go is remember The person Trump has selected likes to take a Besson or a vote. No, 10 times more than these Democratic senators are only there to get these snarky things on video.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
The first time you do it, like when Wyden asked that wise guy question to Scott Besson, as soon as Scott adjusted his glasses in the professor moment, I said, here it comes. He blew him up so badly. right? Humiliated in a gentlemanly way, kind of a JD Vance, very gentlemanly way, very professional way. Scott humiliated Widener. He was left bleeding.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
Oh, well, you know, that's, I don't understand about it. I don't agree with it. Nobody else has a tough question. So my recommendation to Pam and to all of them, when they come after you, Be a gentleman or a gentleman woman, but take them down right there on national and global TV, and you will see the others act like little lambs. They won't want that. So next week is going to be showtime.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
They're dug in on Tulsi. I think Tulsi – and I've been a huge supporter. Remember, I brought Tulsi in in the first two weeks in 2016 to see the president, and I advocated at the time that she should be the UN ambassador instead of Nikki – instead of the governor Nikki. Uh, because I thought Tulsi knew so much more and she was so well-informed. She was an army major.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
Yeah, she makes it through, but that's going to be a tractor pull.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
The Holman-Miller combination of what he's hitting, whether it's in Chicago, calling their bluff there, or getting military transport to send him back to Columbia. This didn't happen After November 5th, the folks have been working on this, these executive orders, executive actions, the legislative program, the financial program, economic, the geostrategic from Panama to Greenland.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
Always Megan. Thank you, ma'am.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
It's all inspiring and breathtaking, and it couldn't have come at a better time to save our country.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
Look, Pritzker's running 28. I think Tom Holman, I think it'll happen this afternoon. call their bluff. We're in Chicago for a reason, because Eric Adams has already said he made a mistake, a grievous mistake. That's why the Southern District indicted him when he saw the light. Los Angeles, you see, they're going to drop the sanctuary city. You have to call their bluff.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
I think they ought to go in this afternoon and call the bluff of the mayor. If he does not allow the ICE agents in the city jail to pick up the bad hombres that are there, which they haven't done today, arrest him. If Pritzker doesn't let him go into the prisons, the state prisons, arrest Pritzker. If you do have to go into a school and the principal, you got to arrest them.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
This is just not about the illegal alien invaders. Remember, these people are essentially, besides the criminals, they're essentially, I would say, innocent for the fact of they were invited in here by radical government that hates the United States of America. It's now time to take the torch to the enemy. And that is the mayor of Chicago and the governor. If Pritzker wants to run
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
in 2028, if he wants to run in 2028 in the Democratic primary, let him do it from a federal prison cell because right now he's obstructing justice. Look, the home is doing great, but to go to the projects and get guys they've released or get them in onesies, twosies is so expensive, so cumbersome, and quite frankly, dangerous.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
It's now time to go to the jails, go to the prisons, and make them turn them over. If they don't turn it over, arrest the officials in charge. They're the ones blocking this, and this gets to the heart of this wasn't chaos at the border. This was a well-thought-through plan to allow 12 to 15 million illegal alien invaders to invade our country, and they have to go home. Right.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
On military transport. And we've got to cut deals with all the frontline nations, I believe. Not do this onesies, twosies, you know, cut deals. Let's do this. Let's roll. But now it's time to take it up. We're never going to get there by going to housing projects and finding and finding bad guys. You do understand, Megan, you're a smart lawyer. These are administrative warrants.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
They went yesterday because we've got one of the exclusives out there with our own Ben Berkholm. They went yesterday to a housing project. The guy just said, hey, I don't want to answer your call. I don't want to open the door. And they had to leave. So it's now time, I think, to ratchet up. Homan's done a great job. Miller's done a great job. It's now time to go next level.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
Let's arrest the mayor. Let's arrest the governor. And then send a signal to the rest of the officials throughout the country.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
This is why I think we have to be very clear about what we're talking about. And I don't think the administration has done much clarity. To me, it's from the afternoon of the 20th of January 2021 to high noon on the 20th of January of 2025. Everyone that Biden allowed into this country illegally all have to go. Right now it is MSN 13. But I don't want to get into people's minds.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
We're just going to get the bad hombres, the really bad ones. That's where you start with. But they all have to eventually going to have to go to the schools. Now you're going to do it in a empathetic way. You have to be empathetic, and this is why you have to go back to the frontline nations, the other nations, including Asia-Europe.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
You got to say, like they did to Colombia over the weekend, yo, your folks are coming back. We will work out something to make sure that we can get them there, do it safely. But if you don't, we have tariffs, we have sanctions, we have other things that we can do, but you're going to take the people back. Folks have to understand, all 12 to 15 million have to return home. We don't have the money.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
We don't have the social services. It's destroyed communities. It's led to all kinds of other problems. We have an African-American and Hispanic citizens in this country have been crushed by this. Their education system has been crushed. Their health care has been crushed. They're working for wages at 20% lower because there's too much illegal alien labor available to take their jobs.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
It's not right, and I hate to be the guy that says you're eventually going to go to school. Martha Raddatz yesterday shows you exactly the deportation porn you're going to get, and you're going to get it. So people have to come together and say this is a mission, and that's why I wouldn't confuse it for people who have been here before that. We have enough of getting the $12 million out now.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
That'll take years. It just will.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
let's worry about who came before that's a topic for a different day and we can get to that but now right here now the deportations have to go i think they have to be ratcheted up i think they have to be much more systematic and the way you're going to do that is start arresting officials start arresting like for instance the catholic church if the catholic church bishops are going to come here and
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
throw down and say that, Hey, start rolling up the bishops. If it's going to be Catholic charities, which to me is a criminal organization. And this weekend, she's putting out videos about how to report it, go and arrest them and throw them in the who's gal. It shouldn't be the people that are kind of innocent here. The folks that came,
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
Now, we have to work it out that they have to go home and we've got to be empathetic and charitable about that. We don't have to be empathetic and we do not have to be charitable about the people that made money on a basically human trafficking to get these people here and destroy the country. That's all these NGOs. It's the Lutheran Church, the Catholic Church.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
You have this Jewish family services, all of them. And if the Catholic bishops are going to throw down on this one, let's just throw down now, Megan. It's just let's go there.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
Hold it, hold it. The second collection, the second collection is basically going to these organizations who have no idea what they're doing except working. We went down to the border. We've actually shown this over the last couple of years. But the Catholic Charities is getting billion – they get billion-dollar programs from the federal government.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
Remember, the federal government uses the NGOs to basically expedite this and work it. That's the whole CPB1 app and all of it. So the Catholic Charities is maybe the worst, but they're getting billions from the government plus – You know, the decent Catholics that go to Mass every week, that second collection, you have no idea where that second collection is going.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Schumer on the Rocks, Trump Admin vs. DC Judge on Deportations, Trump Polling Highs: AM Update 3/17
Is it time for new leadership in the Senate? Next question.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Schumer on the Rocks, Trump Admin vs. DC Judge on Deportations, Trump Polling Highs: AM Update 3/17
The two sides are today a lot closer. We had some really positive results.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Schumer on the Rocks, Trump Admin vs. DC Judge on Deportations, Trump Polling Highs: AM Update 3/17
Before this visit, there was another visit, and before that visit, the two sides were miles apart in where they were. The two sides are today a lot closer. We had some really positive results coming out of Saudi Arabia, discussions led by our National Security Advisor Mike Waltz and our Secretary of State Marco Rubio. I described my conversation with President Putin as... as equally positive.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Schumer on the Rocks, Trump Admin vs. DC Judge on Deportations, Trump Polling Highs: AM Update 3/17
So the two sides have, we've narrowed the differences between them.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Schumer on the Rocks, Trump Admin vs. DC Judge on Deportations, Trump Polling Highs: AM Update 3/17
There are regions that we all know the Russians are focused on. There is a nuclear reactor that supplies quite a bit of electricity to the country of Ukraine. That's got to be dealt with. There's access to ports. There's the Black Sea potential agreement. There's just so many elements, Margaret, to the implementation of a cease-fire here.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Schumer on the Rocks, Trump Admin vs. DC Judge on Deportations, Trump Polling Highs: AM Update 3/17
And everybody is committed, all stakeholders, including the Europeans, to doing everything we need to do to get to a successful resolution here.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Schumer on the Rocks, Trump Admin vs. DC Judge on Deportations, Trump Polling Highs: AM Update 3/17
The mood of the country, this really jumped out. We asked folks, is it on the right direction or the wrong direction? That 44% who say right direction, that's up since November. And if that doesn't seem like a lot, the last time it cracked 40%, you gotta go back to 2012. The last time it actually hit 44 or higher, January of 2004.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Dems Try To Storm Building, CNN Panel Melts Down, and Rise of "Tech Right," with Victor Davis Hanson and Mike Solana | Ep. 1003
Yeah.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Dems Try To Storm Building, CNN Panel Melts Down, and Rise of "Tech Right," with Victor Davis Hanson and Mike Solana | Ep. 1003
This whole thing has really just been this effort to, you know, for politicians mostly, but for people to scare people, for people to tap into the unknown.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Disturbing Idaho Murders 911 Call Released, and New Bryan Kohberger Selfie Revealed, with Howard Blum | Ep. 1032
I always wanted it to make more sense. Like any murder, your brain wants to gravitate towards make this make sense, make this make sense. But the truth is murder never makes sense. This is a psychopathic person who does something that breaks the norm of all of our consciousness. All of our minds are just struggling with the fact that this has happened.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Disturbing Idaho Murders 911 Call Released, and New Bryan Kohberger Selfie Revealed, with Howard Blum | Ep. 1032
So we can logically try to make it make sense, but it's not really going to make sense. It's not Hollywood where they try to make it all fit together. In real life, you're just sitting there dumbfounded like, why can somebody be killed in their bedroom?
The Megyn Kelly Show
Disturbing Idaho Murders 911 Call Released, and New Bryan Kohberger Selfie Revealed, with Howard Blum | Ep. 1032
I talked to Hunter directly and it sucks. He had a broken soul. This is a man who's seen his best dead you know like dying like gone so um we exchanged a moment and i talked to him and he was trying to protect everyone in that house to not go through what was overwhelming him at the moment so i don't know about the details of upstairs downstairs door open door not but
The Megyn Kelly Show
Disturbing Idaho Murders 911 Call Released, and New Bryan Kohberger Selfie Revealed, with Howard Blum | Ep. 1032
But in the bigger picture, it doesn't really matter. He was literally just responding to what he probably thought was a prank, thinking his friend, his best buddy had these girls rolling. And he showed up there and he seen the opposite of our prank. And I seen it in his eyes. He was broken. He was very broken from what he had seen.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
Why would you trust a politician and say, look, just let's get into the entitlements. We're going to sort it out. The people that say that, the politicians say that, don't want to do the hard work and discretionary spending. We have $1.5 trillion of discretionary spending, right? You have to attack that. You have to start that. Yes. You have to start there.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
And look, I was a naval officer for eight years. I spent four years at Sea Under Destroyer. My daughter, as you know, is a West Point grad that served in Iraq. We're hawks, but we're not endless war hawks. You've got to start with the Defense Department. The Defense Department's budget has to be cut. It just has to. You can't have a tree. We have now an NDAA at $900 billion. We can't afford it.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
The social programs have to be restructured. Once we get discretionary spending and people see that we're serious, we're serious people, and it's going to be pain. There's no doubt there's going to be pain. There is going to be pain. All the easy decisions were 10 and 20 years ago. We now have a balance sheet, 36 trillion in debt, increasing by a trillion dollars every 100 days.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
So all the easy things are gone. It's now down to the heart. Inflation is not going to go away while you have this massive spending because the debt increases and you've got to refinance a third of it every year. The math here is not that complicated. It's the political will. And hopefully, President Trump, he's got Scott Besson, he's got DeRozan, he's got a great team. But
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
People that back President Trump and people that are coming to our movement now, particularly working class African-Americans and Hispanics, have got to understand that the country needs a reorganization economically and particularly about this federal government or We're not going to be a republic in another decade. You saw this from what the assassination on the street.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
They shot a guy in the back. Some rich kid shot a guy in the back. And if you look online, 95 percent of these of these kids online, that's their living experience. I'm not saying it's proper. I'm saying that's. Where it is, we have two choices in this country.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
We need to go down this MAGA revolution, this populist nationalist revolution that's peaceful, that's now getting more and more people involved in it, more and more ethnicities, more color, more races, and more economic groups, the working class, medical class. Or you're going to have a French revolution. You can see it coming. And you can see, particularly for them, a cold-blooded assassination.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
So... The stakes couldn't be higher. And that's why this Christmas, I hope everybody steps back and really thinks where we're going with the direction of this country.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
That is the strategy. I want a different one thing. I think that also because we're a populist movement and like even when I went to prison, it's next man up. When the history of this age is written, They're not going to talk about Elon Musk or Tucker Carlson or Steve Bannon or Megyn Kelly or Roger Ailes or, you know, Sean Hannity or anybody. They're going to talk about Trump, the age of Trump.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
And they're going to talk about this movement, this populist movement, this MAGA movement. It was a reaction of the people. Now, Elon was out and ahead of it. But the revolt from the folks, as soon as they understood what was going on, was enormous. And they blew up their congressmen on the phones and with the text messages, et cetera. Now, to Elon.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
What he's, I think, presented and offered to the country is pretty extraordinary. We've talked about deconstructing the administrative state now for eight or 10 years in the Trump movement. Before that, Megan, you always know that all the conservatives wanted limited government, a small government. Nothing happened. The government expanded until President Trump came along.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
The government was just out of control. What Elon Musk gives you in Vivek is a very sophisticated way to go about this and to bring all the best management techniques out of Silicon Valley and kind of the modern American entrepreneurial enterprise. And that is unique and extraordinary. And we've got to put that to work.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
What the media is trying to do is obviously trying to separate these two guys and make them a competition. And nothing could be further from the facts. And what's happened over the last 48 hours is they broke the traditional, the 1,500-page, $350 billion giveaway to the political class and to their clients and their puppet masters. And so I thought this was extraordinary.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
We just have to make sure with the new ecosystem on the right, your show, the streaming services, the new radio programs, the the social media, particularly using Twitter as a platform and other platforms. We just have to make sure we get the word out there. Our audience, like your audience, they hunger for details. They hunger for the receipts. They hunger for the facts.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
They want to use this part of their agency. So it's more incumbent than ever that we really deliver more information, more facts, and make it actionable so that people can use our agency. So I feel pretty good about it. I think President Trump laughs this off, but you should see that to me that's kind of a last – if that's what the best they got to play – Bring it.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
If the best you got to play is that there's two Sun Kings and only one sky, right? If that's what you got, then bring it. Because I think Elon and President Trump have a great relationship. Elon put real money to work on the ground game. He didn't come in, as you've seen him so many times, Megan, particularly when you were at Fox, all these donors come in, they want all these fancy advertisements.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
He came in and put money in back of working class people going door to door. I think he understands fully what's going on. And I expect great things out of this.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
Well, first of all, he lied to everybody. It's a bald-faced lie. Look, I took a lot of grief early. I think it was – It all blends together now. The first morning of this, when the 1500 people said, oh, you know, no, he's Trump's speaker. Trump loves this guy. He's very close to Trump. And I told people this is like about 20 people contacted me because I was coming out off the chain on this thing.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
I said, I know President Trump. He's going to love him until he doesn't love him. And when he understands all the facts that he was lied to and misrepresented, and Johnson dumped this thing, 1,500 pages of a $350 billion giveaway to Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer and Mitch McConnell. Once he understands the facts, he's not going to be in love with him when the guy can't deliver.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
He wants people that can deliver in the billets that they have. And Johnson is, you know, he kind of came as a compromise after after McCarthy. McCarthy. Remember, McCarthy was turfed out about the same topic spending. So, no. And I wasn't sure about taking him on because. What we have now, Megan, with this CR, these are baby steps. This was supposed to be so easy.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
To bring a clean CR, the hardest core of the ultra-mega fiscal conservatives would agree, and we hate CRs, but kick it down the road clean until President Trump comes in and then vote. The entire team can work with it. We're good with that. We will hold our nose and do that this time. This is a baby step.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
Compared to what has to happen starting January 20th, not just the investigations ending these wars, deporting 15 million people, the fiscal and economic issues before us are...
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
almost catastrophic president trump can thread the needle but you needed to be like the british call it a close-run thing you all have to be in sync you all have to have communications nobody can hide the football here's how bad they did it in this 1500 as you mentioned in your opening monologue
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
They included a pay raise from themselves from $173,000 to $243,000, plus they got out of paying anything for Obamacare. And they weren't upfront with it. They stuck that in the 1,500 pages. I think that was tucked into a paragraph on page 900. They tried to slip that in there without being upfront and saying, hey, we haven't had a COLA increase.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
I'm not saying you give it to them, but if they came and presented it like adults, hey, we haven't had a COLA increase in 15 years. People need to do this because they can't pay for their kids to go to school. The American people said, well, no, you're not getting a pay raise, but at least you would have understood it. They tried to hide that. That's that Washington mentality of hide the football.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
So, no, Johnson's got to go. The important thing for your audience, we have a deeper problem than just one guy. It's just like in taking the government apart and deconstructing. This is not about all these memes out there about you're fired. It's not about people, and it's not about research into the sex of crickets at Iowa State University. This is billets and programs.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Programmatically, departments, billets, you know, boom. This has to be big hunks of stuff that we're just not going to do anymore. It's the scale and scope of a nanny state and the scale and scope of an American empire that our founders and framers never bought into. So Johnson's a...
The Megyn Kelly Show
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a symptom of the problem he's not the problem himself but he there's no doubt he's got to go in fact i would our audience today would support a short term that just kicked to january 3rd to remove him a speaker, and then get a new speaker, and then come back and try to cut these deals.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Now, Matt Boyle, as we came on your show, Matt Boyle just reported, I think there's 25 now congressmen that are saying that absolutely under no circumstances will they vote for Mike Johnson. So he's politically, he's yesterday's news. He's history.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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It is under the Constitution, though, that you have to be a natural born citizen to be president. Remember, the Speaker of the House is doing the line of succession. Now, I asked Mike Davis about this because this came up yesterday. MTG did this and Rand Paul. And Rand Paul is a very serious guy. He could take. the billet. You don't have to be in Congress.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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You don't have to be a natural born citizen to actually take the bill of Speaker of the House.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
If an issue came up a succession, but the vice, you know, the something had the president, the vice president couldn't take it to come to the speaker that you would have in there that would get kicked immediately to the president pro tem of the Senate, which is the third in line of succession, and they would take it. But no, hey, I'm open to I'm open to any
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
I actually happen to think it's a certain elegance to that because of the because of the situation with Doge and how Doge is going to participate, this, et cetera. I think Elon said I think he's already said he he's not interested, but it's that outside the box thinking.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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I kind of love right now because we have to think outside the box and we have to be able to do extraordinary things in an extraordinary time.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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I would be very comfortable with Megyn Kelly as speaker. I mean that. No, you know, you have no because you have common sense. You're tough as nails and nobody's going to be able to BS you. Right. So I'm all in for that. And I'm serious. Kelly, they put up Megyn Kelly and said, hey, we want Megyn Kelly down there. And I think it's time we had a conservative to right wing woman in charge of things.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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I'd be very supportive of that. In fact, I may I may I may throw that out this afternoon on my show. Yeah. Okay, I'll run that by the mister. Trump would support it 100%, no doubt about that.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
And they're not crazy about cash at FBI, which is, you know, in your legal background, how important that is. Look, to me, it's very simple. And I'm very upset that Gates was allowed to drop out or dropped out or whatever, because he did. He did provide a function. He drew fire from everybody. We wouldn't know his full name if Matt Gates was still there, which I think happened.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
Listen, it is about President Trump picked a team. He wants that team. And this is why I threw in so hard for Pete last week. I mean, you know, Pete from Fox. We threw in so hard for Pete last week because they were talking about Ron DeSantis. And my point was, hey, you can't have your first two out of the box. You can't let them take out. If we do this, they're going to get to Tulsi.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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They're going to get to Bobby Kennedy. They're going to get to cash. And then all of a sudden you've got, and you hear him talking on TV, what they want to do is normalize Trump. They want to take Trump away from the, he's a blunt force instrument that's giving blunt force trauma to the system. And that's what we need right now.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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We need that armor-piercing shell, and he needs his people up in back of it that have a kind of an angle of attack on this thing. And so to me, you've got to lock in hard And you got to push everybody over. This is why I say flood the zone.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
When the new Congress is sworn into the third, I would tell them we're going to do the confirmation hearings on the fourth and get all six or seven or eight of them up there and let's get on with it. Let's flood the zone. Let's overwhelm the system and continue on the system. I want to be on offense here. I want to be pushing the football. I want to be moving the chains.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
Sometimes it gets a little too passive. And we let the media, as you know, this is an information war. When you let them get
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
and start leaning into it and not on their back foot they're going to crush you because they have all these massive apparatuses right we we don't have that we have a we have audiences and we have audiences of activists that will turn out and not go suck their thumb because we're going to have some you're not going to win everything the power we have is the resilience of working class and middle class people that are down for the fight this is why we should be on offense all the time and i hope
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
that they pick up the pace a little bit on these nominations and really force their will on the Senate to get these things done. Have your confirmation hearings, but let's get on with it. And I would love to have President Trump, at least half the cabinet, at least the national security and finance guys, all approve by the time President Trump takes the oath.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
And then right after that, bang, bang, bang, you just swear in, you know, 10 to 12 people.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
I agree with you. I think I think there's some issues. I keep saying that no one should be just because we had a good week with Pete. And I think he's making a fine impression up there. Look, it's pretty extraordinary. Folks should know for a part for people because the Constitution, it is advice and consent that the Senate has.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
is essentially built after the House of Lords when we formed the Republic, has really been the Human Resources Department. One of their big functions is judges and U.S. attorneys and obviously all the, you know, 1,000 of the 4,000 people that come in to run a new government. 1,000 of those are Senate-confirmed. That's a huge, and that's what they're supposed to do, their due diligence.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
So the advice and consent they can do. I'm very worried. And people say, oh, no, these guys are going to get through now. It's pretty extraordinary to have a party when you're in charge of the Senate to actually vote against nominees. It's pretty extraordinary. It's only happened a handful of times. So I think I think but given custom and tradition, this shouldn't happen.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
But I have the same fear you have that people are lying in wait. Now, number one, as you just mentioned, who's in cycle? You know, the Tillis's of the world and the Cassidy's and the Joni Ernst. There you have to put where you have to is maximum political pressure, right, on the possibility of primaries or ultimate defeats. And for the rest, I think you've got to get up close and personal.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
President Trump is going to have to work this. This is one where I don't think he should have gotten involved in the House and he got sucked into it because of Johnson's incompetence and malfeasance on this one. He's going to have to – at the end, he's going to have to whip some votes.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
And I think there's going to be some horse trading at the end, that some people are going to get some stuff to get these through. But listen – President Trump is an extraordinary character, unique in American political history. That cabinet is extraordinary. You've got Bobby Kennedy from Democratic Royalty.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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You have Tulsi Gabbard, who I think the world of, who is a Democratic congressman and kind of a progressive, but principally, one of the leaders of the American First Movement as overall intelligence, where even the CIA reports to her.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
You have Pete Hegseth, who's a combat vet, but we've never had a combat vet at that age actually run the Pentagon that's now the biggest industrial complex in the world. You have Kash Patel, who I think has a tremendous record in counterintelligence, terrorism, all that, which you need in the FBI, but has made a point that he's going to restructure the FBI.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
And quite frankly, he sees that there are going to be a number of areas that we have to do serious investigations on. So these are all outside the box picks. And that means you're going to have to do some. It's a heavy lift, but you have to do it.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
I think President Trump will eventually be involved here and actually whip in the votes as we get down to the end, because I share your absolute concern that this is a long way from over, folks.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
Also for your audience, I do not, at the end of the day, I think you're going to have one or two Democrats, folks. Watch Fetterman. Watch Fetterman, who had many America First and MAGA leanings. He's obviously got some very progressive stuff on the social side, but his position on the takeover of U.S.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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steel by the Japanese, a lot of his economic positions, this guy wrote Kahane in the House, but particularly Fetterman in the Senate. He's very pro-Israel. He supports President Trump's policies in the Middle East. Fetterman could be a guy That and I think you already said it was Pam Bond. He's already said somebody he's already met with and he's a yes.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
I see him as a potential yes on a Tulsi Gabbard. Right. I see him as a potential yes on a Bobby Kennedy. So Fetterman and maybe one other Democrat may be there to give you some headroom that you not normally have and not be held up by Mitch McConnell. I mean, Mitch McConnell is is going to have a gun to her head on this thing. There's no doubt about that.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
Six months outside a year. But the first 100 days, first six months, you've got to be getting all three. He's got to personally get involved in the bringing to a conclusion the Ukraine war. And I think also this Middle East situation, particularly with the Persians getting close to a nuclear weapon, as he warned about.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
And I think on the border, the first reconciliation, Miller and Homan, the deportations, building the wall. and then the financial and economic crisis. He's got, I think, outside a year, I would put it as, for planning purposes, 100 days to six months, you've got to get on with it. And I mean, this is my point. You've got to be driving this thing every day.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
political class is infected with a malignant cancer. That cancer is bipartisanship. Was there any bipartisanship in Scott Pressler going around for the last four years and changing the makeup of the electorate in Pennsylvania or in Arizona? Was there any? No. The conversation is over. President Trump
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
I wouldn't even take off, if we were on the team, I wouldn't even take off Even Christmas Day now, I'd be grinding every second of every day because they're lying in wait. And remember, they're going to put a billion dollars in the back of Hakeem Jeffries to flip a handful of seats in the House on the House side in 26.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
And the first thing Hakeem Jeffries is going to do because he promises it to his donors is impeach Trump. We're not out of this. We're far from being out. Even everything we accomplished. extraordinary you and everybody on the media side in this new ecosystem, inspiring people, the people coming out and do it.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
This is a people's victory, but November 5th, you got to understand that's just like that gets you to the table to start the fight. And it's going to be brutal. They're going to pull out. They have, they will pull out every stop. You've already seen this and what they've tried to do, president Trump and their goal and objective is to flip the house and
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
In two years, and Hakeem Jeffries, the first thing he'll move is impeachment on Trump and maybe many people in the cabinet. So folks have got to understand this is a political war. And we're at the very beginning of this. Don't think the great work we did on November 5th means anything to these people. They could care less.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
They're going to fight with every tool they have and legal tool, political tool, information tool, deal from the bottom of the deck, do things that are unfair. So it's – and I'm not even talking about our foreign enemies, the Chinese Communist Party, the Persians, the KGB in Moscow. This is – and, oh, by the way, you've got 10 to 15 million illegal aliens just on Biden's watch.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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I'm not even considering the people here before just on his watch. So – Stakes are high, let's say six months to the outside.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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This is what gets back to this concept called reconciliation. They have this thing, it's too technical to get into, but there are this instrumentality called a reconciliation where you don't have to get cloture in the Senate. You don't have to get the 60 votes. It's majority. They come up every so often as kind of a reconciliation of the budget.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
They're technically – you've got to really thread the needle to use them. But we actually have the ability to do two reconciliations as currently interpreted, I think, by the parliamentarian in this – after Trump is – takes office. And the talk is – to use one reconciliation immediately right after his inauguration. And that is solely for the purpose of the border and immigration.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And you only need 51 votes. So you get the change that you need, right? And this is legislation. So Trump hits you with 50 executive orders, just like we did in 16, and like Biden did to reverse it. So you've got all these executive orders, unwinds, all the madness of Biden. You've also got a reconciliation bill that you jammed through with the majority.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And that's got not just some changes, but as importantly, it gives Holman and Miller some real power. You're not going to – it's nowhere in these budgets to start the deportation of these people. People are saying it's going to cost $800 billion a year. It's not.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
But they at least get some powder to build the wall, to do other security in the border, to help in those areas in the southern border and actually in the cities because every – Every town's a border town now. Every state's a border state. So it's taking on the sanctuary cities. There's resources and money in a law that's done. And that's done day one, I hope, by the 20th.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
came back from the political dead, and on the shoulders of the most powerful populist movement in the history of the world, brought in every demographic, every ethnicity, every gender in every part of the country, and won a landslide victory. All the battleground states, every demographic, and the popular vote. We have nothing else to discuss.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
That's what they should be working on or shortly thereafter. And that gives and that begins the process. I also think and we can't be fantasists here. You know, I want all 12 to 15 million gone, not just the criminals. I think you start there. I believe you have to have a sit down. And some of this is happening behind the scenes. You have to go to the frontline countries in Central America.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
You have to get the Mexicans involved. And she's already said in the last 24 hours, I'm prepared to take guys back. But you have to sit down with them and work out arrangements that, you know, even economically are going to help here because we're going to be sending a lot of people back. And we're empathetic people, right? We're not cruel people.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
We're just not going to do this and give them a bus ticket. It's not going to work like that. And you want to take that club out of the media's hands. I think he does some sort of summit, Mar-a-Lago, Rio Grande Valley, you pick it.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
But we start a formal process of how, beyond the criminal element, you start getting these people to take back, you include, I think, a couple of South American countries, like, for instance, where the Haitians, hundreds of thousands of Haitians have been there. There's a way to do this. The guy you want in a room to do that is Donald Trump. This is a big deal.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
You get reconciliation, you get money, start a formal process. Trump gets guys in the room. You start the second formal process. By the time you're six months to nine months into this by Labor Day, we've got traction. This is happening, right? The border's sealed. People are not coming across. We stopped playing the games on the migrant situation, asylum. All those games are stopped.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
And you've begun a process of the criminals and the others he talks about from the insane asylums. That's in movement. Plus, countries are your partners to take these folks back and to work it out. And if they don't, Then you talk about the tariffs. You bring the tariffs. You bring economic nationals or access to the American market.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
Remember, our market is the most lucrative market in the world for countries. So you have to you got to negotiate. And Trump will use he and Navarro Navarro. And he worked this out in 18 and 19 with the with the Mexican government. So but that that priority is and that's that lane. And that's got to hit. You've got to hit that hard. You got to hit it fast. You got to hit it right away.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
So you have the three lines of work that are major. Stop the wars, get the finance and debt in shape, the economy growing again, and the border. Then you have to have, and this is not about personal revenge, because people in the Financial Times think Susie Wiles is quoted quite rightly, that the best revenge is the golden age of Trump and the sunlit uplands. I agree with that.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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However, this is not about Trump. It's not about Steve Bannon went to prison or Peter Navarro or Tina Peters or anything. We have to do this for the country. This can never allow to be happen. This can never, we can't allow this to ever happen again.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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It's only about the execution of President Trump's plan. All we hear in the mainstream media is how they have to have quiet time. They got psychologists over at the State Department patting them on the head. They're too tired. There's no resistance because they can't take it anymore. Fuck you. We're going to go win.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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The Washington Post, excuse me, the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times, Megan, as you know, over the last 72 hours has been reporting and the Daily Mail puts up a lead. Now from people in the White House, they don't know if Biden was even in charge from day one. The investigations, number one, on the vast criminal conspiracy
The Megyn Kelly Show
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from the Justice Department and the FBI to New York State to Fannie Willis to all of it on the vast criminal conspiracy against President Trump with lawfare has to be with complete open sunshine exposure. That has to be investigated. It just does, whether it's at the House, at the Justice Department, and the FBI. But also, we have to get into this entire situation of the Biden White House.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Why was the 22nd Amendment called? We have to never allow these games to be played again. And by the way, on the vast criminal conspiracy, I do believe some media people are going to be brought into that.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Because I think once you start looking at text messages, once you start looking at emails, I think you're going to see that people, there were people, as you know, MSNBC and some of these publications like the New York Times and the Washington Post, that we're in on this. And so I think the investigations, we need this for the American people.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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That's kind of a sidebar that's going to take its own momentum. But you see the people he's put in the Justice Department around Pam Bondi. If you see Kash Patel, we're not going to back off. We owe this to the country. This does not have anything to do with going to prison with Liz Cheney, with the illegitimate committee. But we have to get to the roots of what that was. We have to get to J6.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Sunlight. Not security. I call it a fedsurrection. The only way to do it is complete, open, Sunshine.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Madam Speaker, it's got a ring to it. It's got a ring to it. I've got enough problems in my life, Steve. Irish gal and an Irish gal on top of it. It's got a ring to it.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Merry Christmas. Thank you, Megan.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
Thank you, Megan. Thank you for having me.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Exactly. You know, it was totally phony about what they reached out to in 2021. They were trying to crush people with lawfare, bankrupt them, debank them. We just won a sweeping mandate, and it's time to execute the mandate.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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I mean, one of the reasons you have this fiasco on Capitol Hill in the last 48 hours is still the reflex position or the default position of our political class on the conservative and Republican side is always to reach out and to work and really submit to the Washington cartel mentality. And President Trump, we want a mandate.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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It's only about executing, and we don't have a lot of time to get ready for that. Like you said, we're 30 days away, and we got to get on it like day one. I mean, his list of to-do is just huge, and that's what the focus should be, not this phony unity. Look, to me, they...
The Megyn Kelly Show
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essentially are telling you the 2020 election was stolen for the simple reasons that they're treating Trump like the president all over the world. Biden has kind of faded. Now you have articles coming out in the Wall Street Journal, New York Times. Well, he never really was president. He was infirmed from day one. They knew it. Nobody invoked the 22nd Amendment. So
The Megyn Kelly Show
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This is, to me, Megan, look, I think we're partisans. We should go ultra-partisan, at least for the first six months to a year, to get the agenda done and no prisoners.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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But here's what I think is important. The fiscal year of the government runs out on September 30th. The appropriations of the budget all should have been done because of the election year, the kind of Republican establishment wanted to kick the can down the road. So they started with the CR even on October 1st.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And what we know from October and November, from the numbers that have been put out by the government, we've had the two biggest deficit months in recorded history. $674 billion of deficits in the first two months are going to be almost $800 billion to $1 trillion in the first 90 days of this fiscal year.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
Right now, we're adding about a trillion dollars of new debt through deficits every 100 days. I called this a year ago, and this is what's happened. The projection, Megan, for 400 days from now, basically the one-year anniversary of President Trump's inauguration of the 20th, is $40 trillion in debt.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
So in that context, this whole thing of another CR, because people would just say, let's get this thing sorted now. The CR was to kick it into past January 20th.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
So President Trump would have an attempt with Russ Vought at OMB, in Vivek, in Elon at Doge, to actually come up with the House members and actually come up, because all taxes and all spending have to come from the House, according to the Constitution, that President Trump would have a thing to, so this is going to be a very simple kick it into past 20th and maybe give them a couple of months.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
Let's say March. Because we hate CRs. What happened, and you saw Johnson spending all this time with Elon and he's going to UFC, he's walking into the UFC. He's at the Army-Navy game in the box. He's spending a ton of time with President Trump in Mar-a-Lago and with Vivek and Elon. And what happens is he drops this thing the other day that needs to be voted in 24 hours. It's 1,500 pages. It is.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
And remember the CR itself, because when you do continue resolutions, you're just basing it upon the approved spending from the previous year. So the CR in, in, in for the 90 days in any one quarter is about a half a trillion dollars in spending or almost, you know, on top of that, he layered on new spending of about $300 billion. This is a 800, almost a trillion dollar package. So, but worse than,
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
80% of it was Hakeem Jeffries. And if you look at the 1,500 pages, you're a lawyer. This is a highly negotiated legal document. It's ready to be made into a law, not an executive order. This is a law. It's 1,500 pages in total giveaway to the Democrats. I mean, biolabs in Ukraine, more stuff on the pandemic, more stuff backing Fauci.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
The Global Engagement Center, the thing that you and Mike Benson and others ran about all the time, that's fully funded for another year. This was 80 to 90 percent of Democratic priorities. And now we know, as we peel it back, that Schumer, McConnell, Hakeem Jeffries basically negotiated with this guy, and he didn't tell anybody.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
The problem is he dropped it on people, another $800 billion in spending. Nobody planned on, never got Trump in the loop, never got Vivek and Elon in the loop. And then lied about it even on Fox. He goes on Fox and Friends in the morning, says, well, I'm going to message Shane with Vivek and Elon.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
And I walked him through that we only have a couple of votes in the House and they're all fine with this. Well, they weren't fine with it at all. And the more you peel it back, it's terrible. So that got thrown out. And then you had this whole fiasco.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
And President Trump, I think, feeling he wasn't being dealt with straight, started to put some demands, particularly said, I want to increase the debt ceiling. I don't want to get too technical, but there's a number of instruments called reconciliation that will take place early in President Trump's second term that the debt ceiling issue can be incorporated in there.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
And I hope what they're doing, first off, if this has got to be what it is to shut the government down. Let's just shut it down and wait till Trump gets there. And they're going to try to extract as much pain on the American people. They're going to tell TSA to go home, although TSA are vital personnel. They're going to shut down the airports over Christmas.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
I mean, Biden would extract a lot of pain from the American people. But I think you've got to say at some point in time, enough is enough. Now, it turns out, Megan, up there, I think what they're intended now is it looks like they're going to break it down into three groups. separate bills, a clean CR that just kicks it like they should, just 90 days with nothing.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
It just says we're going to continue the spending, kick it out to March 20th, which was the original plan. Then this farm bill, because the farmers are under pressure and the banks, they're not getting paid. It'll be a separate bill, 10 or 20 billion for the farmers. And then the last will be the relief of FEMA, which normally would have to have an offset because we have tough decisions to make.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
And I'm not sure the FEMA money is not there. They're just not paying it. Biden's just
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
putting the 110 billion 110 billion what normally we would have offsets for that that's an offset measure but because in the hurry and i said listen this is how you get 40 trillion of debt but and i'm not so sure fema doesn't have the cash right now i think that's a biden regime putting the screws to maga in western north and western north carolina and florida
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
But be as it may, there'll be a separate vote on that. And what I understand the latest, just when I sat down with you, is that the cuts and offsetting cuts and the deaths that will be dealt with in the first reconciliation, which will be about the border. And I would hope that that's there in the 20th. Bottom line for your audience.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
have a very dysfunctional system and johnson's got to go maybe we can talk about that but it's not just individuals not just personnel we have a systemic problem and the systemic problem is we are like a heroin addict we are addicted addicted to federal spending it's the cause of inflation and it's going to destroy this country of everything trump's got to do stopping these endless wars
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
seal the border and deportations of the 12 to 15 million. The one that's the toughest is to the intervention to break the addiction to spending and to get our hands around, to get our arms around this out of control, you know, budget and national debt. Or when you're around the Christmas tree with your husband, look at your children and just understand that we're passing them
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
a catastrophe and a crisis that will make 2008 in the great depression look like garden parties.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
When politicians tell you that, that is a problem. Listen, the little guy out there, he has one thing. He has a contract. Here's a contract for Social Security. It's $1,200 a month, and he's got the Medicare. It ain't a lot, but it's what he's got. And he's not going to give it up. Look at this fiasco the last 40 hours.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
And this is why I think President Trump's hemisphere, the shift to hemispheric defense, which is from Greenland to the Panama Canal, more of a naval strategy in the Pacific. It's the three island chains and really the the vast desert of the Pacific is really the American heartland. That's our defensive barrier.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
That, to me, should restructure the entire Pentagon and armed forces to that to force structure around that. I think Pete Hex has got to move immediately. I think there should be significant cuts to the defense department. And then that would give you the political cover to then say on Medicaid, you know, we got to be sensible here.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
Two of the three best economic populists in the Democratic Party, who I think are kind of on an island, one of the best is Ro Khanna, Ro's economic patriotism, which we always kid him as just ripping off Navarre and my economic nationalism. He's an economic populist. So is Fetterman. Fetterman just announced, you know, we're here today during the CR.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
We right now with the economic distress, there's a lot of MAGA on Medicaid. Yeah.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
And I think by, you know, the illegal aliens and, and, and, uh, and obviously the waste, fraud, and abuse, and some of the things about a block granting it back to a governor like yourself and to California to figure it out has to happen, and other social programs. This is not gonna be painless. We've been so out of control, and it's both parties.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
The Republican Party has been controlled opposition. They have not had these tough fights. That's right. That's the tough fights we're going to have to have.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
I'm not sure he was. By the way, the first couple of years, the first couple of years, the deficits were under, I think, four or five hundred billion dollars. We came very close to actually trying to balance it. If we went back to pre-COVID spending, I mean, Scott Besson says this all the time. We don't have a revenue problem. And this is a verb we think about having to increase your taxes.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
We have a spending problem. I mean, post-COVID, we've had explosion of some of these programs. I think you got to get your arms around them. But once again, these are going to be huge fights and they're not going to be painless. What I like about Johnson today for the first time, because I think he's tapped us along and overpromised.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
And now we're in a situation that, you know, we have to do a CR, which we hate. If you think that the MAGA base and our show, we represent the hardest core of the hardcore. If you think we like sitting here and basically not lighting up the phones and accepting Joe Biden and Kamala Harris's budget, it's a tough pill. It's a hell of a thing.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
No, but what I liked about what I liked about him, he's voting and going home. He's going to put it right on the Democrats about shutting down the government or not. And I think you're going to have a real firestorm in the Senate. And I think a fascinating debate about the direction of the country. And I think we're going to see that. I think we're going to see that coming.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
I think you'll see voices like Fetterman and others start to step up and take a much more prominent role in Democratic Party. Because one thing I keep saying all the time, if you'd watch MSNBC and CNN, you never really see the populace on the economic side. You don't see the Roquehannas getting the time. You don't see Fetterman really getting the time.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
Sherrod Brown and Sherrod didn't want to do national TV, but you never see really the economic populist ever really get. They kind of roll out Bernie Sanders, who I'm not a fan of, but they don't really ever get to the other guys. I think that's all going to become quite different in the in the days and weeks ahead.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
that favors the middle class. We would never take anything from California. I understand.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
First off, you're grossly overtaxed in California. We want to cut taxes.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
Fetterman just announced he would support the CR if it came in. Fetterman's a populist. And then Sherrod Brown. Sherrod Brown, I think, has been an economic populist for a long time. So there are very strong voices in the Democratic Party, I think.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
I think we're increasing aluminum and steel. I think he said today 100%.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
There was a true social, not that it's tit for tat, but there was a true social right before I came on.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
You're seeing this Trump slump, a lot of stress. The bond market, more than the stock market, the bond market has turfed out more governments than howitzers. If you look over the last couple of years, Liz Truss in England, really the assembly in France under Macron. That's right. The Germans, right? The Italians are probably close to a sovereign debt crisis.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
Spain, England's been a couple of governments, even Starmer's under real pressure. So no, the global capital markets, particularly when you have to borrow this much money, the 10-year treasury is, you know, Bob Rubin used to run the country under Clinton. And this is why Carville said, I want to come back as I come back. I want to come back as a 10-year bond or the bond market.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
And that 10-year bond sets everybody's economic underpinnings. And so it's very important. But I think with President Trump, it's both a growth strategy and part of his tariffs. Governor, it shouldn't be lost that the tariffs have many different aspects to it. Number one, He wants to get back at least somehow back to more of the American plan from Alexander Hamilton McKinley.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
Before the early 1900s, driven by the earthquake in San Francisco and the fire, we had a massive financial panic. And that led to really the Internal Revenue Service and people focusing more on getting off American domicile companies and American citizens. President Trump wants to go back to more.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
external revenue that's part of the tariffs he looks at he looks at the u.s as a premium market and so you would pay a premium to get access to here like you would get a skybox at a sporting event or sit in the front row of a concert and he's got a but he's got an out if you want an out because the tariffs are going to be substantial right uh and over particularly mexico and canada so you can't game the system manufacturing and manufacturing wise and against china because
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
Just look over the last – he's been there 40 days. I think over the last three or four weeks, you've had almost a trillion dollars. I think it's $800 billion from Honda, from Siemens, from Apple. It was $500 billion. Taiwan, a semiconductor, $100 billion in four years. These are massive – Capital investments in top grade.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
Unfortunately, as a populist, I think they're kind of on an island because it really hasn't been the center of the conversation with the Democratic Party. But I think those three are pretty good as far as populism goes.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
This is not some sovereign wealth fund saying I'm going to come in or it's not Masa San. It's SoftBank saying I'm going to throw one hundred billion dollars. These are companies that are relocating here. And a big part of that is the tariffs. I say, look, we want to get into the United States. We want to manufacture domestically. It's got a logistics supply chain we can control.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
It's got you know, it's got the rule of law. but most importantly, doesn't have tariffs and it's got lower energy costs. That's the new economic model. And it's going to go through some choppy water to get there. So these are just not a 25% tariff on an avocado coming from Mexico or some part under the hood from Canada. It's much more systematic.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
Now, I understand the way it was rolled out because of the emergency nature of it, the focus was on fentanyl and this chemical warfare. Yeah, which is a little...
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
But hold it. The Canadians have been, the Canadians are one of the tough, this is why when you talk about reciprocity on August, on April 2nd, you're going to have reciprocity and tariffs. And in India and Canada- Is that good?
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
Listen, Warren Buffett, Warren Buffett, who's a big Democrat and a supporter of many Democratic politicians, because you know him very well, he went to cash. He's sitting on $350 billion in cash a couple months ago. I think he realized that a lot of the markets, particularly equity markets, were driven by NVIDIA and other – all this AI first kind of stage – There was a lot of fluff in that.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
So I think with President Trump, I do think they're coming in because I think he's he's he's changing the geostrategic model of the United States back to a hemispheric defense away from the postwar international rules based order, which is really gut at the United States. It was great for a while. Right.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
But it got it. But it got it. The middle class. Remember in the working class and at the end of the day, we had allies are taking advantage of it. Give me a second on this. If you take the rim of the Eurasian landmass, you got Western Europe, the Persian Gulf, the Gulf Emirates, Middle East. Then you've got the Straits of Malacca, the South China Sea, and then up to Korea and Japan.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
Those four nodes. We have commercial relationships, trade deals. capital markets integration, some cultural interface, but it's an American security guarantee. This is how, whether it's NATO or the Middle East or South China Sea or are up with Japan and Korea, we have combat troops there. We have 150,000 troops deployed today in I think 115 countries.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
This is one of the reasons people talk about foreign... aid with USAID, which I'm against a lot of this stuff going on, but it pales in comparison to what we're underwriting for countries that were upside down on every trade deal. Our trade deficit in, I think, in January alone was a record trade deficit. I think it was $100 billion.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
So not just that we have budget deficits, we have trade deficits that are kind of inextricably linked because we've gutted all the manufacturing jobs. We've all shored those. And I think Trump's geoeconomic strategy is a massive reshoring process. And I think you're seeing this now. And I might note, I don't want to take a cheap shot.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
A lot of those traditionally would go back to California, but they're going to Arizona and Texas because I think they're looking at red states now as having lower regulation, lower taxes, and people are going there. And I think this is going to change a massive, the demographic change in the United States as you have Trump's reshoring come back to the United States.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
And so to be fair, that's tied to, getting, unwinding the post-war international rules-based order. We're going to tell people that, hey, we're not going to be everywhere. Kids from California are not going to be on carrier battle groups.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
Well, populism, obviously, Obviously, we believe in subsidiarity. We believe in bringing power back to the grassroots level. Right. We're very anti elitist.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
You know, guys deployed from San Diego and kids that live in the Inland Empire are not going to be deployed in the Red Sea with two carrier battle groups that keep the Suez Canal open so that Europe can get you know, can get energy resources from the Persian Gulf. I think those days are kind of over.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
We'll pick and choose as we pull back and look at hemispheric defense, not retreat from the world, not be isolationist, but kind of take care of the homeland first and particularly take care of the people in the homeland, the working class and middle class.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
And one of the reasons is we think the elites in this country, you know, the highly educated elites, the political class, the Wall Street, Silicon Valley, Hollywood, all of it have really forgotten the underlying kind of principles of the country and kind of left working class people regardless of. of their race, gender, ethnicity, sexual preference. You pick it, they've kind of forgotten.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
They might have been at the beginning, but it was President Trump. They announced it on President Trump's term. If President Trump had not won this election, and he just had... You don't think those companies... No, I do not.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
Well, I think... Correct me if I'm wrong. I think Biden in the entire four years was one point seven trillion dollars of capital investment back here from, I think, companies, not just private equity. From the private sector. From the private sector. Right. Not just that. But Trump's almost at a trillion dollars in four weeks.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
And these are Apple because they understand that Trump represents a populist nationalist that's only growing and only going to expand. Right. And people are now focused on this. And that's why I think you have Honda, you have Siemens, you have, you know, the semiconductor company is huge. You know, they're the most advanced, I would say, semiconductor manufacturer in the world.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
The other thing I think is quite interesting is. That traditionally our tech area in 128 in Boston and Silicon Valley are built around great engineering schools and built around Berkeley and Stanford are built around Harvard and MIT. You know, when you start relocating to Arizona on something that's both an art and a science like advanced chip design.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
And, you know, I love Mike Crow at Arizona State. He's a buddy of mine. University of Arizona is a great school. I love Arizona. They're not exactly MIT or Stanford. And I think it's showing you that the red states have done such a great job, Texas being the lead, of actually making these amenable to people's needs as companies that they're coming back there.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
I think it's going to have a huge political impact and a huge demographic. But they didn't come – and Biden, Harris. And if Kamala Harris won, certainly they wouldn't have come because she's still a globalist that's not prepared to disrupt the global supply chains.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
President Trump's prepared to do that because reassuring, they're not going to come back here unless you incentivize them to come back here. And part of that's a carrot, which is what- Well, that was what the IRA was.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
But as you know, Trump's better with a stick and you need a carrot and a stick. But don't those same-
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
That's a threat. That's if it goes through some agricultural problem. That's just one example.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
We did this governor. We did the most significant terrorist we've ever done on the Chinese Communist Party in President Trump's first term. And Biden held the line on a lot of this. He definitely held the line. Well, number one, because I think geopolitically he realized that, you know, you've got to stand up to the CCP.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
And I think although you wouldn't remember, you wouldn't have heard it from the media that what President Trump did was a beginning attack. stage of something that had to be done to get the attention of the Chinese Congress Party, that you just can't continue to game the system. And President Trump went out of his way.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
And that's why it's such a big push for kind of these populist economic policies to look to put the lens is not just America first, but American citizens first. And it goes with tax policy. It goes with tariffs. It goes with bringing manufacturing jobs back. It's nationalistic in the fact that
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
By May of 19, Lighthizer and Navarro had that deal that went to every seven of the categories they had to resolve to really integrate with the Western economy, really the world's economy, including the state-owned industries. And they just tore the deal up and walked away, right? And said, screw you. And so that's when these tariffs, and the tariffs didn't increase prices.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
So when people say they increase prices, I don't actually think you have some economists saying theoretically, but when we look at practically back to the golden year of 2019, you don't actually see it. And I think there may be some dislocations in the short term
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
But in the intermediate term, I think it's really the way you get to the sunlit uplands of really having back to the American plan of, remember, world-class industrial manufacturing. That generates so many other opportunities.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
policy is where I start to sustain. The key is broad sustain. If you have broad and sustained tariffs and people can make capital allocation decisions, particularly small and medium manufacturers. Remember in the Chicago area, uh, I think between 1998 and 2005, we lost 5,000 small manufacturers and a couple of million jobs because we shipped it all to China.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
And those guys are begging all the time. These are not the apples and it's not the Taiwan manufacturing. Some of these guys are manufacturing. These are small. These companies employ under 100 people, which I think is the lifeblood. In fact, there's a guy –
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
In Laguna Beach, John Gardner, who's kind of the leader of this effort to bring the small manufacturing folks back to more craftsmanship type of manufacturing. We have to do that. We have to become a manufacturing powerhouse again. We have to do it quickly. Wall Street's not going to love it because they're all neoliberal neocons. They want to be invading everywhere, and they hate populism.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
One of the reasons people should understand is the is the is the is a blowback among the donor class in Wall Street is not just that they perceive the economics and not to their benefit because they've concentrated concentrated wealth so dramatically here since the financial crash of 2008. But they hate the fact. And this shows you the Democratic Party.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
They hate the fact that they're empowering the populist. If we start to win on these tariffs, if we start to win on bringing these back, our movement is going to get bigger and bigger and bigger. Remember, we got 39% of African-American men. I think the first time we've got a majority or near majority of Hispanics because working class people see the opportunities there.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
Not isolationist, but understanding that we've got to make it right for American citizens and particularly for the greatest resource we've had or ever had, which is the American working man and woman. So it's to push every decision as down low as possible and to get everything back to a grassroots level.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
And Wall Street understands this. And the corporatists understand this. Corporate America is my enemy. Number one, they're the leader in the woke movement in this country. But they're also the greed and avarice has always been for the leaders.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
In fact, the tax cuts they take, and one of the reasons I hate allowing them to do stock buybacks is they gain the system to drive up stock prices, to drive the warrant package and the thing, and they don't put in a capital equipment. Thank you. We are on the same page.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
The president knows this already is taxed. Why does he go after the carried interest? Why is he going after corporate subsidies? I'm going to break some news here, Governor. I believe that one of the leading things you're going to see in President Trump's tax bill when it comes out, that he's going to take on carried interest. And President Trump has finally had a bill. That's it.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
What do you mean? We've got to drill, baby, drill. We need to get- We are 13 and a half million barrels a day. We have to have lower energy costs. And one of the reasons all these companies are coming back, we're never- What we got to do is stop. Look, you see this in Germany. Germany had this maniacal, and you and I are not going to agree on this or even close, but they had this fetish.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
A fetish for net carbon zero. They've de-industrialized themselves on the Greta Thunberg model. They're at 3.5% negative growth.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
No, but they're de-industrializing Germany. We don't want that to happen here in the United States.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
But hang on a second. You've also allowed the oligarchy of Silicon Valley. Well, let's talk about that. Silicon Valley is an apartheid state. You're one of the most progressive leaders in this country. We disagree probably on everything on the cultural side, but you're You're one of the leaders. You're one of the leaders, elected officials of the most progressive state.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
And you're, you know, the leader of that element of the Democratic Party. What do you call it? Techno-feudalism. Techno-feudalism. What do you mean by that exactly? Well, here's what I mean is that two things happened around 2008 to 2010.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
And one of the keys to populism and kind of about the sovereign will is that the use of human agency. that just don't sit there and say, you know, somebody else has got a congressman who's got to do something or a senator's got to do something or a governor's got to do something. You have to use your agency only. And I see this in the Democratic Party now, the people saying, do something.
This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Steve Bannon
Well, the bailout, the financial crash of 2008. And this is why I consider President Obama kind of a tragic figure, right? He came in as an anti-war populist. And I am opposed to the war in Iraq and Afghanistan. My daughter served after West Point in Iraq. And I can tell you as a parent,
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You realize that you have no control over anything when your kid goes over for, you know, defending their country, representing their country. It's you understand, you know, how insignificant you are. But the financial crash, you know, Geithner and Bernanke went to a classic Wall Street bailout. You know, we didn't let capitalism, you know, Goldman Sachs got bailed out, AIG.
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No corporate guys ever went to prison on the worst bailout. We had the greatest concentration of wealth until the pandemic. happened with the 1% because, you know, the Federal Reserve's balance sheet went from $880 billion to, I think, four and a half, right? And all that liquidity went to bail out real assets and corporate stocks.
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At the same time, with Obama, when they, you know, when Obama got this heads up, kind of, I think it was on Facebook, the San Francisco airport, this briefing about how social media, his weapon to take on the Clinton mafia, because he was a relatively unknown guy. taken on the most embedded political apparatus in the Democratic Party in modern history. And he took it all with using social media.
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That was his first thing. And there was a deal kind of made, a Faustian bargain, that we wouldn't pursue antitrust. We wouldn't pursue FTC or the Justice Department. We would allow the tech oligarchs in the age of the algorithm, the algorithmic age, to to basically dominate and dominate in every one of these verticals, right, with no real antitrust.
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And what we allowed them to become the most powerful people on earth. But what proved out is that both on social media with TikTok and then with DeepSeek in the AI space, that the Faustian bargain, as a hegemon, we said, just give us the commanding heights. And that didn't happen. In fact, you say it's kind of an utter failure that that the social media is all kind of clunky. It's very dominant.
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And, This is Steve Bannon
Right. But it's clunky compared to TikTok. If you look at AI and whether deep seek, you think it's a Chinese psyop or it's a Sputnik moment. Well, it sure as hell was a disruptor. We clearly we clearly you know, you don't hear a lot of talking about net carbon zero when this thing needs 10 times more power on the data center side. And the thing, because it's kind of brute force computing.
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Governor, don't get there. Because they don't have the power. They don't have their business model now. For that epic fail, what's the... They've gotten away from... Capitalism is about markets and profits, okay? They are now about digital platforms and rent. They're rent seekers. And they don't believe in even open borders.
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These guys are techno-feudalists that you have a digital platform, you had kind of digital serfs that serve that, and you add it to AI and what they want to do in advanced AI of cutting out all the entry-level managerial, administrative... Low tech work, we're going to have a massive problem about unemployment, and they're just on their merry way.
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Do something. I think that's a lesson that we learned after President Trump. And look, you know, we disagree on this, but President Trump won the 2020 election and we were kind of shattered as a movement when he left Washington, D.C. And we had to go back to basics to say, you know, it can't be somebody else do something. You know, we had to do something.
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And here's what, just like the lords of easy money on Wall Street came to the Federal Reserve and the Treasury for a bailout, and no working class or middle class people, you know this, in California got a bailout. They paid for the bailout through the taxes. What's the first thing- Silicon Valley comes – the first thing they come for is we need a new mercury program. We need a Marshall program.
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We need $500 billion, and they need to turn over the Lawrence Livermore Weapons Lab in California, Sandia. We need to take control of all the national labs. And we need a $500 billion bailout because of the Sputnik moment. So they come back to the taxpayers. This is why I think these guys are very dangerous. And it's created in the Silicon Valley.
This is Gavin Newsom
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And I understand at the beginning there was rationale for this, but now it's not. And it's got to be, and I think you've got to be one of the leaders of it. If we're ever to get a control of the oligarchs, you as governor, and as quite frankly, the leader of that wing of the party have got to work with us to say, Hey, this can't go on any longer anymore. First thing we need is Lena Kahn.
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And, This is Steve Bannon
And then Trump threw her out. Correct me if I'm wrong, Governor. I don't think Kamala Harris, I don't think Lena Kahn's name ever crossed the lips of Kamala Harris. I don't recall, but they never had her back. She's the first one to say that they never had her back. She's a neo-Brandeisian after Louis Brandeis, which always warned against the concentration of private power.
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Exactly. The most powerful office in our democracy. He was a big believer in human agency. And back to the way back to the with Gil Slater, Gil Slater's deputy with with Andrew Ferguson, also Mike Davis and Rachel Bovard on the outside. We are the most we want to break up. In fact, you see the suits right now in northern Virginia and D.C. against Google.
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I mean, the hardcore populist wing of the MAGA movement really wants to target them up.
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Do I have any issues? Do I have any issues? Yeah, I know.
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Hang on. Hang on. You guys love it. See, you loved all the oligarchs and particularly Elon until they flip. And remember, all the rest of these oligarchs were all progressive Democrats until 11 p.m. I don't know if they're progressive. I would...
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And that's where we went back to really a pure populist movement to go at the grassroots, the precinct strategy and kind of rebuild ourselves from there.
This is Gavin Newsom
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First off, at Treasury, I think you're seeing a very smart analysis about M&A and about the oligarchs. I think, look, with Gil Slater, Andrew Ferguson, I mean, these are one notch down and maybe not as well known as Lena Kahn, but they're in the same school of thought. of neo-Brandeisian, of this concern about the concentration, the tremendous concentration of private power.
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And President Trump's working through this right now. Look, all these guys just became, their Damascene moment was 11 p.m. Eastern Standard Time on the 5th of November when Pennsylvania was called for Trump. Once that, all of them, Zuckerberg, all these guys, they became MAGA. You know, Zuckerberg started growing the hair, working out, doing kung fu fighting.
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Elon, I think very smartly, this goes back to the precinct. I give him tremendous credit. He saw the math of what we were doing as grassroots of this precinct strategy, canvassing. He backed the play. I mean, and look, no one's ever written a $250 million check.
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It may be more eventually. I think it's up to 280. But he backed it on the least sexy aspect, which is backing grassroots going door to door. And particularly he would go up and campaign in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin.
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He left Canada to come to California. That was his, you know, South Africa-
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What the hell is that? Listen, I laid out this concept at CPAC in 17 that it was going to be, you know, populist economics and economic nationalism, America first national security. And the third was a deconstruction of the administrative state. What Elon Musk has done, and I think this is the engineer, you know, the. The better angels of Elon, that engineer's brain.
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I think it kicked in when he saw the strategy of how we actually win in building a coalition of working class people. He supported that in President Trump. I think now and this is why I think he jumped on it. He sees that we have an apparatus. And I think you'd be the first to admit the administrative state that's kind of anti-democratic. It's there.
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And I don't care if AOC or Gavin Newsom or Bernie Sanders walks into the Oval Office, President of the United States, The deep state and the apparatus is going to do what they're going to do. They're going to look at you as just passing through.
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I just had an idea. We should invite Elon because you know these guys better. You're personal friends of these guys. Elon ought to take a California doge, sit down with you so you can get the ground. We've been doing it for years. But go in.
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And, This is Steve Bannon
Your favorite family. Let Elon come out. Let Elon come out and verify that. I think for the nation, it would be good. But he hasn't done that. There's a recklessness to what he's doing. Let's go back to Doge. Unaccountable. What he's trying to do is get the waste, fraud, and abuse and identify. He has identified USAID, which people have been working on for years, but he's done a good job there.
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The other is this $20 billion in Citicorp, where it went. I think people are going to eventually need more details. I think he said he's going to provide more details. They just went to federal court last night. A judge ruled. I love it.
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And, This is Steve Bannon
No, I don't think Elon's. I think he is a little bit. That's my personal opinion. I'm just a Mick that yells into a microphone. But but governor. No, here's I think it's important. And this is why I think let's get back to why President Trump won again. You have basically working class people, middle class and particularly lower down the chains. They've seen the bailouts on Wall Street.
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And, This is Steve Bannon
What do you mean? What do you mean? What do you mean for Trump?
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And, This is Steve Bannon
They've seen the oligarchs be made. They don't think they have agency in a global, you know, global supply chain. They think they're just a cog in the machine, that their voice is not heard. Right. They're kind of dismissed culturally. They consider. And I don't care if you're black, Hispanic or white working class. It's not a race thing. It's it's ethnicity.
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And, This is Steve Bannon
It's you're just dismissed as not being important now with AI coming up. They see that even their children that went to college in that important 10 years that you get out of school, administrative tech, managerial, are probably not going to be there or be there in some dramatically different way than you came up and your dad came up and my dad and myself.
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So I think they see that in the institutions that were supposed to be there to be protective, people question. And the polling shows this category. And that's why I got like Trump. Trump comes up and he says, look, In D.C., not in the room, not in the deal. And I'm going to put you in the room and people feel comfortable.
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That's why they love this kind of days of thunder and every day flood the zone with President Trump is doing. And President Trump and, you know, because you know him very well, he has a visceral connection with. with working class people that people in politics haven't had, you know, for generations. He just has this working class and middle class. They trust him and they believe in him.
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And he's designated Elon. I've got a lot of problems with Elon and you know that. Elon knows it. But what I do admire is that he is trying to get this situation to get the waste, fraud and abuse out. I hope it gets to a trillion dollars. I'm his biggest supporter of that. I don't think we're going to get there.
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Well, they did try to they did try. They did try to put him in prison for 300 years. Right. They did try to bankrupt him. That's a guy never had ever had.
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That's deep consequences. And people this summer, and I keep telling people, like, all these corporate CEOs that come to Mar-a-Lago and the tech bros and the broligarchs, and all of them came to the inauguration. They're all partying in their tuxes. I said, this is all great, celebratory. But we're going to go through a firestorm. And I think part of this firestorm is not this CR.
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And, This is Steve Bannon
I think the CR gets kicked down. But this summer, when you start to go through the programmatic changes that you have to have, we have to get control of federal spending. If we don't, we're never going to get rid of inflation. That is going to be the acid test. When you talk about defense, you're going to have the hawks and a lot of other people in the neocons in your grill.
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When you talk about what has to happen to Medicaid... You know, when you talk about the social programs, you talk about snap, you talk about these. We are about to have a national conversation that we've never had. We've never and there's no easy alternatives. All the easy alternatives we left, you know, a decade or a couple of decades ago.
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This is going to get to down to say, hey, we need to get the deficit to under trillion dollars or like three and a half percent. We're never going to people in this. Your audience should understand something. We will never pay off one penny of the face amount of the debt. As we increase this now about every hundred days of another trillion dollars, it's just the interest.
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a set of grievances they did steal according to us and we're firm believers the 2020 election which I think worked out better that providentially that he was able to come back with that gap because I think you're seeing a a much more not just new and improved but somebody that's much more in command of these decisions and really stepping up in a way that we could have never done before
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Right now, the gross interest charge, I think, is a trillion four, which is the way it's got to be looked, not net, because they kind of take the interest on the bonds we sell ourselves and they net it out, which I think is unfair accounting. You got to look at the gross. Right now, it's significantly over the Defense Department.
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And I would tell people, too, as we kind of wrap up or get close to wrap up.
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In the history of countries, no country has ever come back economically that its debt is above its GDP. And we are now at that space. In addition, no nation of national security has ever survived as a major power when the interest payments on their debt go above what they pay for national security. In a trillion dollars, we are now over – Our national security right now is $1 trillion.
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And we are thinking about a trillion two to a trillion four in interest payments alone.
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I don't agree with that. I think if you want to have- Governor, we're- By definition, that substantially increases the problem, increases the debt. If you want to have a shot, if you want to have a shot to get the three and a half, 4% growth, You got to have a supply side tax cuts. You just, and by the way, for people, it's just keeping the tax cut they have today for people.
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I want to see corporations stay. I don't want to see a cut, but on the upper brackets, I don't want to I don't see extension. I want them to go back to the old rates and they have to pay the old rates. And then additionally, if they can't help us get this under control, I'm off for increasing taxes on the day. They will have a tax increase if President Trump doesn't extend it.
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But then I think we'll have another have another tax increase. The one percent, the top three percent, unless they. Because they control Washington, D.C. Unless they work together with working class and middle class people to get this spending out of control and get all the corporate welfare out of this, because we hate corporate, we hate crony capitalism and corporate welfare.
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$3 billion right there. You've got to generate lower energy costs. There are exceptions apparently to the rule. First off, you finally admitted for the first time the net carbon fetish is- I did not admit it.
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For another day, guys. That's not fanaticism. That's called pragmatism. Eventually, you work with Ro Khanna and Fetterman, you'll become more of a populist nationalist, and then you'll probably have a bright future.
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I also think that for your audience, you know, there's a saying that there are decades in which nothing happens and there are weeks in which decades happen. We're living in that time right now. So whatever happens this week, next week, it's going to be quite intense. We have an economy to turn around geostrategically. The beginning of the kinetic part of the Third World War has got to be stopped.
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But no, I don't think it's grievances. I think it's reality. I mean, they tried to no one in American history has the system ever come after. And I think it's one of the problems with the Democrats. You got in a position of having to defend. Remember, I come from a working class Democratic family, an old Democratic family.
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So we're living history every day. And I'm just honored you had me on here. And, you know, we were able to conduct this in some level of decency. I appreciate it, Steve. Thanks for joining us. Thank you, Governor. Appreciate you.
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I was telling some people last night, I said, we didn't know any Republicans. There were just we were Irish, Catholic, working class phone company firemen. You know, a Navy enlisted people. You didn't know any Republicans. They just weren't in your you know, we were in the South also, which is all, you know, machine democratic politics. So you didn't know anybody. You didn't know anybody then.
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And so to see what President Trump had to go through and to see how we've actively changed the Republican Party to actually the working class party. in this country.
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There was a poll done last spring that showed that we as a Republican Party are the working class party and viewed as such, and that President Trump's the leader of that working class party, and the Democrats have become both not just the Wall Street elitists, but also kind of the credential class with the poor underneath, of which we're now trying to obviously recruit not just the working poor, but actually the poor itself to join our broadening coalition.
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Don't be giving tariffs stink eye. I don't want to start off with you giving it stink eye already. I'm a tariff guy.
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You know, Governor, I'm not so sure. Let me get there. So in 17, I was a big advocate of that in the first Trump tax plan of actually raising the rates on the upper bracket and doing actually more to the lower bracket of corporations. And it was not just what I thought was right, but also politically expedient. At that time in the spring of 2017, it was really Bernie Sanders and –
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Pocahontas that was going to be the... Senator Warren. Elizabeth Warren is going to be Pocahontas, we call it, going to be the challengers coming from the populist left. And I thought it was very important to nip that in the bud at the time and raise the brackets. Now, I think history shows that they can show you the math that doing all of that actually worked in unison and got us that great
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you know, 2019 today and president Trump, I think invest in a pretty upfront that this is the last chance we're going to get at a supply side cut of that $4 trillion. I think the $2.6 trillion of, of joint, you know, 400,000 and below of couples. And I think you add another couple of hundred billion dollars for maybe the pass-throughs to the LLC.
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And, This is Steve Bannon
So the entrepreneurs get caught up, but that additional trillion dollars is, Unless it can be shown mathematically, and I think people work on this, that they consume, you know, right now, I think the top three percent consume almost 50 percent of what's going in the country. Unless that you're concerned that that will kick you into a major recession if that went away.
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I am I'm pretty adamant about that. You shouldn't the upper bracket shouldn't get it. And even some of the corporations shouldn't get it if they're just going to do stock buybacks. But additional tax cuts should go, as President Trump promised, no tax on tips. no tax on overtime, and particularly no tax on Social Security.
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The purpose I want to do this is I want to convert you to be a tariff guy also. This is part of the process to unwind you from being a globalist, to make you a populist nationalist. It's a long journey. It's a long journey, but I think you'll get there.
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I think we're, not to be argumentative. No, appreciate it. We want to have an open dialogue. I think when you look at Besson and Charlie Gasparino had a pretty good piece in the New York Post today about this. If you add in if you if you look at the growth rates and this predicated on growth, you look at a growth rate two and a half to three percent. Right.
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If you look at what we're trying to do on cutting federal spending, in addition, Doge, which is a waste, fraud and abuse. And you look at additional revenues externally from tariffs. You can get to what Besson's trying to do is take the deficit from six and a half percent of GDP down to three and a half percent of GDP.
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So this not this out of control explosion of two trillion dollars in deficits, which we as Republicans are about to sign off on today. Just so your audience understands this CR today, the House will approve the Biden Kamala Harris spending for this year. Locking it in. They're locking it in. And that's how you can't be.
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Well, because right now, I think with everything it does, and by the way, it's just it's that plus it's a two trillion dollar deficit. OK, I think the reason we're doing it is that the House has not gotten their act together to get these single subject appropriations bills done. They are committed to do that working with Democrats in the spring and summer this year for fiscal year 26.
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And I think to keep the to keep the government open. to keep President Trump hidden on all cylinders, to keep Doge at work in federal court overnight. The federal courts are coming after Doge. This is on at least information. We expect many more lawsuits about that. But I think in the effort to do it, we're prepared. And, you know, we hate any CR. This one we've hated for a long time.
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And, This is Steve Bannon
We're prepared to go along. The president says he needs it. What I love about Johnson for the first time, They just announced they're going to vote on it this afternoon. He thinks he's got the votes in the House to do it. Then they're going on recess. They're sending it over to the Democratic Senate with a play me or trade me.
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It's interesting. I think the Democrats have to make a decision of whether they think it's better to keep it going and keep the resistance they've got in the legislative part, but also in the courts or let Elon Musk, you know, potentially unchain him. With the Doge groups on on who's you know, who's who's a necessary employee versus who's an unnecessary employee.
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I think it's the first time because traditionally the Democrats have always been for keeping the government open. I think they put them in a real conjuring. I think this is Johnson's. It's going to be high stakes poker, I think, this afternoon. But people should understand this is a this is a bitter pill to swallow.
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for us, because we have argued, this is the whole reason Kevin McCarthy, a guy you know very well from California, we got turfed out his speaker. It was all over. It was the deal he cut with Biden that gave President Biden two years and unlimited, no debt ceiling to spend and run up. And McCarthy then didn't deliver on the single subject appropriations bills and he got turfed out.
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So your audience understand, these are huge fights on our side of the football all the time about spending.
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I've been very critical. I think we're I think we're I've been very up until today. I've been very critical about we're in this job because of over promising and underperforming. And I think you got to in leadership. I think now and I think it's a long way from him being out of the woods is that now because you got you got only he's got six months now.
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He's got to deliver like a real budget with real cuts because just back for your audience. The Doge effort is waste, fraud, and abuse, okay? They're kind of like shock troops or special forces, and people can either say they're great or whatever. I would like to see a little more definition of what they've actually found, okay? All of us would. A little bit of accountability, transparency.
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And, This is Steve Bannon
I agree with you. More transparency. But I think – but that doesn't, to me, get to the meat of it because I think you're going to have to have programmatic cuts. And I've been a big proponent that those programmatic cuts have to start in the Defense Department. I was a naval officer for eight years. My daughter went to West Point. I'm not a dove.
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But I think I've been a big critic of the – we're at a trillion dollars now. And that's one of the reasons of this post-war international rules-based order issue. We just can't continue on with NATO. We got to have allies that really pitch in here. But you got to start in the defense department program.
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You have to do programs and billets to get to get the budget deficit to three and a half percent of GDP, roughly under a trillion dollars so that we can start. Somehow we can begin to finance this because right now that's the driver of inflation. You know, Biden, the they just restated their numbers from the fourth quarter.
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And traditionally, the Biden thing has always been – the labor number has always been different, right? It's been one thing and we've criticized that for a long time. This one, the shocker, and I don't think that – and I've said this, that the guys on the economic team did enough for President Trump of pushing this.
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And, This is Steve Bannon
The inflation number went from 2.2 percent to 4.2 percent, and it really didn't even get mentioned in the business press. And I said that shows you the underlying kind of burning inflation. And the reason that is the – you have to finance now essentially a third of the debt. every year.
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And, This is Steve Bannon
So you're talking, I don't know, 10, 12 trillion dollars of government securities you have to sell at higher interest rates. That's what's driving inflation. Plus, I think a too loose Federal Reserve. So you had both a fiscal overspending and a monetary loose money. We've got an inflation problem that's not going to be easily solved. The way to solve inflation is you have to cut, I believe,
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And, This is Steve Bannon
Federal spending dramatically. You have a Keynesian kind of stimulus all the time and you have to do it. And that's going to lead to painful conversations. It just is because if Doge doesn't find all this waste, fraud and abuse. Right. And they're saying now they think they can get a trillion dollars, which would cut the deficit in half.
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So I mean, Fetterman, look, you've got you. By the way, thanks, Governor, for doing this. I really appreciate it. I wanted to have this conversation for a long time.
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I came out of the Pentagon. And this is why I was adamant about Elon Musk, what we call crossing the Potomac. There's a point in time that people are saying, well, let Pete Hexeth handle the Pentagon. I said, no, to get if you're going to get first off, waste, foreign abuse. I think everybody has to get one for that. And not just that, the Pentagon's got to step up.
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People have to know that because it's always rumored, you know, they can't pass an audit. It's $2 trillion of assets.
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And, This is Steve Bannon
That's programmatically, but there's $2 trillion on the audit. I think there's $2 trillion in assets they can't put their hands on. Yeah. Jon Stewart was just lighting up one of the undersecretaries of defense, I think, a couple weeks ago about this. So you have to do that. But then programmatically.