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The political class is infected with a malignant cancer. That cancer is bipartisanship. Clearly, Johnson's not up to the task, and he's got to go, right? He's got to go. Should Johnson be Speaker of the House?
The Charlie Kirk Show
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If it's it's in direct succession to the presidency, it's number two. Obviously, you can't be a natural. You have to be a natural born citizen to have that. But Mike Davis tells me, hey, you could just skip Elon if anything happened to the president or the VP and we could get on with it. So I think it's what President Trump wants. But I think that that is right now we have to get through this.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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And I'm very comfortable with the government shutting down and just waiting to President Trump shows up in January to get this done. It'll be messier, but President Trump can sort out. But the speaker's race happens on the 3rd of January. They come back on the 2nd.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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It's going to be wild. It's going to be very wild. But I got to tell you, it's the breakout session. It's the whole package. So the week before Christmas, get people here. The weekend before Christmas, you've got so many motivated people, 18,000. By the way, War Room can still get it by going to AmFest.com. War Room, you still get your 25%.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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If you're right now messing around, and some of these guys, Cassidy's been terrible. He voted for impeachment. I mean, he's a dead man walking politically anyway. But some of these people that are coming out, and not just that. It's not even coming out and saying, I'm not voting for him.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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Leaking after the meetings, like they said on Gates, Gates already committed to not going after Tony Fauci, not going after NBC, not going after Liz Cheney on just regular investigations. The folks up there got to understand. This has got to be a tight-run thing. We're going to get everybody through. All these people deserve it. It's an incredible team.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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For those leaking, you know, eventually there's going to be a lot of primary trials for people in cycles. So the Tom Tillises, you saw Joni Ernst was a perfect example. Folks got to understand, people at home are watching. Although we won this huge victory, we're not a huge celebration crowd like you.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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People are already in now wanting the details of what's going on, and they're already thinking downrange of the primaries in 2026.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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No, it would have gone through. This is the new ecosystem. Look, this is what the change, the mainstream media is now can't throw a punch, right? But even the old classic conservative, just Fox News, everybody trying to get on there, it doesn't work. You know, with all the different venues, when you have Turning Point, your show, your podcast, your radio show, all of it, this audience, they're
The Charlie Kirk Show
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here's what they're thirsty for inside baseball details and they'll show up and do the work but to do the work they want to feel like they're part of it and they are part of it so the ecosystem on the right and i might add the far right is now driving the conversation this thing was dead in a couple hours and today you're hearing snarky anonymous quotes saying well you know elon musk are these you know the right wingers of charlie kirk and steve bannon they don't get us they don't get to tell us and i just say put your name on that
The Charlie Kirk Show
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Just put your name on that and we'll see how it turns out.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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Charlie's good enough to give us the 25% discount on the first day.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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It's harassing. People have to understand the FBI and CIA are in every aspect of our government. That's the deep state controlling the administrative state.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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Thank you, guys. I'll see you later. For the War on Policy, I'll be back here this afternoon.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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way through all the way through so folks if you're in the general area california anywhere come on down you're going to have a great for plus there's high energy we need also to take some time to celebrate and to really i'm not a big celebration either but with all the firestorm going on we got to be able we're going to have come together to end this historic year
The Charlie Kirk Show
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I sat in. I think I sat in for Charlie Kirk's first pitch. When Charlie Kirk came with Turning Point, and I sat in for some pretty big donuts. They asked me to sit in. And Charlie's sitting there pitching. And at the time, you're going to take over student government, student governor, president. And I go, that's about the wackiest idea I've ever heard.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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But the energy this guy had, this young man had, and...
The Charlie Kirk Show
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make note you weren't even going to college i mean you made a big deal so i had only to do this i you know so and to think of just the arc of where you guys have come because it was elon musk that had it had everybody's back but it was the turning point and you focused on get out the vote with the war room posse in the blue wall pennsylvania michigan uh uh wisconsin but you focused on arizona and pennsylvania and look at that you're making those two the uh you're making pennsylvania
The Charlie Kirk Show
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You have to remember, go back to 2020. What was it, 10.30 at night or 8.30 out here when Fox called it? I mean, that changed the entire dynamic. And we had to get back to that. But I'll be honest with you. I didn't think. I said, look, if Charlie and these guys can get us back with a two, two and a half point, three point win. Five and a half. Five and a half.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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And you guys did such a job. A little bit Nevada, I think, drafted off that. That's why Nevada, I thought, was going to be 1%.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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It's his first really calm and serious address. Yes, yes, yes.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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That's when the media actually realized, hey, at first they thought it was Trump coming down and he was really – because people were telling me, particularly Ailes and the guys at Senior Fox, they go, look, he's just trying to negotiate a better deal with The Apprentice. This is Trump, the master negotiator. And I go, I don't know about that.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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It was here in Phoenix in this very building when people all of a sudden go – There's over 2,000 people.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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Now, this will also be the first one that the first MAGA rally, really, when he's not an active candidate, unless we get into the 2028, but we'll do that.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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OK, first off, it's weapons grade trolling. OK, no, but here's the thing. I was out there the other night, and you're an hour and a half. You see, don't get this at AmFest, New York Young Republicans. At AmFest, Charlie runs it. It's high precision. When it says you're going up, maybe a few minutes because of applause or that, but you're going up.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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In New York, Gavin Waxer, I love you guys, but I'm an hour and a half late going to the stage, and it's 2,000 people, and they've been drinking since 6 o'clock in the afternoon. It feels like a 747 engine you're hitting. So I had a speech about the bond market and everything President Trump had to do, the things that are engulfing Washington, D.C. today.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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But I had to kind of throw that out and start throwing bombs. But I think it's an open question. It has to be an interpretation. It's just like Elon Musk. People are saying Elon Musk should be Speaker of the House. There's no requirement for anybody to be in Congress. Elon, now there is a question about natural born citizen because you're number two in succession.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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Mike Davis says, hey, you just go. Maybe you go to present pro temp. So that has to be worked out. It's not locked in because it doesn't say consecutive about. I think it's an open question. And of course, you see their entire meltdown. Just I had 100 articles about that. All the other.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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But to consecutive terms, it's ill-defined, right? It's still ill-defined. You could have consecutive. It's open for interpretation.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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As you know, the Warren posse and the Charlie Kirk show, we don't like CRs. We'd like to have 12 appropriations bills, get it done. This is where McCarthy's gone. Johnson, this should have been a layup. This should have been a two-line CR to kick into President Trump's term. We would agree to that. Or you add, you know, a $10 billion for the farmers, some money for the FEMA, and you get on with it.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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Johnson didn't tell Elon, didn't tell Vivek, didn't tell President Trump. He went to the UFC. He went to the Army-Navy game. Never told him 1,500 pages, all Democrat. It's not acceptable. They're up there thinking something else. And look, folks, it's going to be a little messy because of what the country's in. You've got wars in Ukraine, wars in the Middle East, deportations on the border.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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We're going to try to get this to be a close-run thing. We're going to help here at AmFest over the next couple of days of the breakout session, get everybody up to speed. I have more to say about this labor right now. President Trump's throwing in the debt ceiling. That's a little gasoline on the fire.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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But what can we tolerate? I'd like just to shut it down.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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Well, I think the most we could tolerate is some money for the farmers, a couple of billion dollars for the farmer to bridge him into President Trump, a couple of billion dollars for whatever FEMA needs to do now if there's not money there, and then sign it and kick it into President Trump's, and then next Congress.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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A hundred percent. It's not even a question. Look, Johnson, and I got a lot of grief early yesterday morning behind the scenes because people told me, oh, President Trump loves Johnson. President Trump's got Johnson's back. Don't do this. I said, hey, as soon as he sees the performance, I know Trump. Trump's about performance. This thing's a fiasco. Here's what upsets me. He was with
The Charlie Kirk Show
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Vivek and Elon, who have been doing a ton of work. They came to Capitol Hill. They made a presentation. He was with them then. He was with them at the UFC fight. This is Johnson. He went to the Army-Navy game with President Trump and Vivek and Elon. So these are three or four times he's there. Nobody had any idea it was a 1,500-page document that was highly negotiated.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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And the giveaways to the Democrats, I mean, obviously, Hakeem Jeffries got two-thirds to 75%.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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In secret over at least the last six weeks. And he lied about it. He came on Fox and said, hey, you know, it was a simple bill, one page until some, you know, acts of God happened with the hurricane and about the farmers. That's just not true. If you just look at he had every opportunity, including at midnight on the first day they released it in the evening at midnight.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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He tells Fox he was on the phone with Vivek and Elon. He didn't even walk him through it. He made all kind of excuses. Then as they spent overnight, Elon was up at four o'clock in the morning or four thirty dropping bombs on this thing as he went through this and said, so look. We have to have somebody that has leadership and courage and can be straightforward.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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President Trump, this next, and this is why I gave this, tried to give the speech on Sunday night about the bond market. If you look at the wars in Ukraine and the Middle East, if you look at the deportations, the border, everything has happened there. Those two lines, the one in the middle.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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Hey, can we give it up for Charlie Kirk, what he's done here at AmFest? What amazing, Charlie, what size crowd are we anticipating here?
The Charlie Kirk Show
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to get the economy right, to get this debt right, to get all the cuts he wants to make, to get Doge's thing. That is so complicated. You have to line up and go down with OMB, the Secretary of Treasury, the National Economic Council.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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The Speaker has to be, and his team have to be hardwired into that, because as the Constitution tells us, all taxes, by the way, the taxes, all taxes, revenue generation comes from the House, and all spending comes from the House, and only the House. This is why the Speaker, Johnson's just not up to his task. This is not personal. He's just not up to the task.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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And you see this thing about Liz Cheney and Loudermilk sending this criminal referral to FBI. That committee should have been dealt with by the House. A year ago or a year and a half ago, we should have done the whole J6. On anything you can look at, it just hasn't been good enough. We need the best team there. And people are saying Elon Musk.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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Hey, I'm comfortable with anybody that the Congress and President Trump supports. If it's Elon Musk, it's Elon Musk. If it's Jim Jordan, it's Jim Jordan. Whoever it's got to be, it's got to be. We just got to get on with it and make sure that we're tight.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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No, it's ridiculous. A CR should either be two lines or the alternative would be two lines. You add a couple of billion dollars for the farmers just to bridge them and a couple of billion dollars for FEMA and then a two-year, if President Trump wants a two-year runway on the debt ceiling, you give him two years.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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No, we had three or four months of this in September.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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This could, but I think right now they've pulled it. The bad CR they pulled, yes.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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I mean, Johnson, Jim Jordan. Or Elon Musk. I agree with you. Look, the president got shot in the head and four months later won a landslide victory, a sweeping victory. Held the House, took the Senate, took the White House. To me, he gets the team. That's why I'm very upset that Gates... step down. But you got Hegseth, the rest of his team, we have to have their back.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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The war on posse has done an amazing job of fix band as your show has to every day, having their back, making sure that that he gets the team. I also think on the speaker, it's however President Trump thinks. He was a Johnson guy, but it's about performance. And what he had not seen that early in the morning was what a fiasco this was. I knew he'd sit there and go, hey.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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Now, he has said if Johnson mans up, right, and show some leadership, show some discipline, which heretofore we haven't seen. President Trump, I have his back up. That's what President Trump said. Obviously, the war room will go with it and have his back. We will give him our unesparated opinion about what we think and who we think. I think Jim Jordan would be terrific.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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If Elon Musk, if the president wants Elon Musk, let's try it and see what the constitutional scholars say. Because, you know, the Speaker of the House. Is I think much more obviously much more powerful than the Senate pro tem and much more powerful than the vice president. It is the number two most powerful. Nancy Pelosi showed you this.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
We've got a million dead or wounded Ukrainians and 700,000 dead or wounded Russians. everything they have done is try to destroy this country, and that is the power of Trump's story. This is what I would tell people. It's not going to be Ron DeSantis. It's not going to be Nikki Haley. This country has a narrative. This is the new Jerusalem, and we have a path in front of us.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
Trump is a very imperfect guy. His imperfection makes it a more powerful story, that he is imbued by divine providence to lead a movement to save this country, and that's it.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
Yeah, Steve, some people in the room may or may not know that you were in prison. Could you tell us a little bit about your experience there?
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
Thank you. It's a great question. I'm very proud I was a political prisoner. Nancy Pelosi thought she was going to break me. I came out empowered and she's broken. It was a very dangerous place. But there are many, many good people. And I tell you, I saw Trump's victory there. That's the only time I put something out was on, I think, August 26th. It said victories at hand.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
The politics of joy was a lie. The prisoners in there, the Hispanics and African-Americans hate the Democratic Party. And they hated Kamala Harris and they hated Joe Biden. And about 60 percent voted or their families voted for Trump. But the other 40 percent wouldn't vote. Right there. The Hispanics and African Americans, right, that is the basis of our 1932 realignment, and I saw it.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
It's not about me. It's not about what happened in prison, but I got to tell you, they empowered me in no way, and she's broken, right? Not the hip. That's unfortunate. I mean, no, politically. Politically, she's been shattered, and we're stronger than ever, but thanks for the question.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
Amen. Day one.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
So – I was not in a camp. I was in a federal prison, okay? And we had a lot of J6 folks there. What they did to those people in D.C., and this is why the investigations have to take place, the people that tormented and tortured them in D.C. prison, war crimes. They have to be tried, they have to be investigated, and they're going to go to prison. All the way up to Matthew Gray.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
It's the last four years. President Trump leaves after having the 2020 election stolen. Pretty obvious. Goes to Mar-a-Lago. The political class totally abandons him. You know, there's a handful of people that have his back. He starts coming back. He makes a decision, the most courageous decision in the history of American politics, because he knew what was going to be in front of him.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
We're never going to stop on that. What happened to those individuals is unacceptable. We can never let it happen again.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
It's worse now. First off, executive privilege was just one. Depending on my lawyer for advice who told me I followed everything he told me that. But the most important was the illegitimacy of the committee. Yeah, that's remember the committee. It was illegally banks and Jordan were let go.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
And so for the first time, a major select committee did not have a ranking member and did not have minority council. Remember, you didn't get the evidence, and you couldn't cross-examine the witnesses. This is about Cassie Hutchinson and all of it. It was a total sham. And now Benny Thompson on national TV is saying he would take a pardon if given to him.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
Cheney, Loudermilk, and this is my problem with both McCarthy and Johnson. They've had years to sit there and get rid of all the... Just take the committee and throw it out and start over again. And we have to have a real investigation of the 2020... And by the way... The more we're transparent, the better. We know we have the facts. Make it totally transparent.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
On the 2020 election, on J6, the day, and what they didn't do in the Fed's erection part of it. July 13th. July 13th. All of it. All the events. On day one, President Trump should declassify about five million pages of classified information. They use the classified information.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
Look, I had above a top-secret clearance when I was 20-some years old coming back as a naval officer in my destroyer and then coming back to the Pentagon. And then I had a high-security clearance. I think 99% of it is to keep the information from you. Trust me. They don't want the people actually be part of the decision-making process.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
And I can tell you in the last eight years with President Trump and this populist movement, you guys make pretty good decisions. If you gave me the choice to be governed by the top 100 partners at Goldman Sachs or Cravath or Sullivan and Cromwell, McKinsey or Bruce Allen, and the first 100 people that walked in this room, I'd take you 100 every day. Right? No. No.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
More humanity, more empathy, more understanding life, more common sense, more knowledge, more drive. It's obvious. This is what the country's so successful. It's not them. It's you. And they want to hold that back, that committee. And we can never allow this to happen again. But I got to tell you, you see, now they're not just talking preemptive blanket pardons. Think about that.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
Preemptive blanket pardons. Norm Eisen is on TV last night talking about blanket amnesty. They are scared to death. And we owe it to this republic, to every patriot's grave, all the way back to the founding of this republic, the new Jerusalem, to hunt it down to the ends of the earth and bring them to justice.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
He knew that they were going to— you know, try to bankrupt his company and destroy his family and eventually indict him. And so it was this courageous moral courage to come back, and that was in 2021. The precinct strategies. Scott Pressler trying to – going out and changing the architecture of these states, of the electorate, whether it was Arizona or Pennsylvania. And people going door to door.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
Oh, he's going to get tossed out. He's going to get tossed out. The populace is going to win. First off, the letter from Freeland was brutal. And she's no day at the beach, right? She's very cunning. But her letter, she said, you're not taking seriously President Trump's aggressive economic nationalism. And you're not keeping our powder dry. The deficits are too big. This current budget.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
She said, I'm out. I mean, she's trying to take his job. I think he's cooked. He is... He shows you what Hillary Clinton would have done to this country, right? That's the type of globalist party of Davos he is.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
A hand grenade with a bad haircut. He was the first, really, on the national stage fire-breathing popular, I guess, since Huey Long or William Jennings Bryan or Andrew Jackson. Yeah, not as good as great again. Almost, I got that close. One more final question here.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
This is what populism is. It doesn't need – you don't need tons of money. You don't need any one or two leaders. It comes from the people itself. It's a sovereign will of the people. And you saw your energy and your focus and your determination took the 2022 election. President Trump then announced right afterwards. Look at what happened a year ago.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
Well, saying he's not churchy, I think he has a very spiritual side to him. I mean, Donald Trump's got a big heart. He's a very kind individual.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
Right. A lot of what you see is kind of, you know, kind of the negotiating bravado. He's a he's a very he's actually and I think he's gotten more spiritual since the assassination attempt. You've seen a very different time. Look, I'm a huge fan of Modi's. Right. So I think we've got a we've got a, you know, President Trump will look into it. But it's horrible what's going on over there.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
But, you know, Modi is the best. He's the best nationalist in the world. What he's done in India is second to none.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
Well, I think all of these, and particularly Arizona, the whole situation in 2020, you have to have a full and deep investigation, and also with the voting. You just have to. But it has to be completely transparent, and it has to be completely transparent. If a commission's set up or if it's in the House or whatever, you have to make sure that the American people can see this.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
It must be fully transparent. I happen to believe there's so much there because, listen— What Turning Point did in Arizona is historic. I mean, we turned it around. So five and a half point win.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
It's three parts to how you get there. Number one is the Scott Presser or the mentality to go change the composition of the electorate by doing voter registration, sitting in those parking lots and 105 degrees and doing it. That's grinding it out.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
The other part is the canvassing and getting out the vote and making sure you have the phone banks, you have all of it, that huge logistics ground and volunteers that do it over and over and over again. And the last part is training up the election integrity. So you're sitting at the table and they can't steal it like they tried to steal it before. Those three elements came together.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
I will tell you that 2020, Donald John Trump won Arizona. It's absolutely no doubt. And Carrie Lake is the legitimate governor of Arizona. No doubt. No doubt. So, Colonel, I think we have to be methodical about this. I think we have to go about it so it's purely transparent and everybody, the community buys in so we say it can never, ever happen again.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
Look where we were a year ago at this conference. Remember, all the primaries had not come. The general election had not come. And look at the energy and enthusiasm that Turning Point had. And look at the work that Turning Point did, particularly in Arizona and in Pennsylvania. You guys deserve. the vanguard of a revolutionary movement, just like in 1775. And victory begets victory.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
Charlie Kirk's running the White House folks. I want to thank Charlie. He's an incredible guy. His spirit, his love of this country. He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
You just supported an individual that has had the greatest political comeback in the history of the world. That was you. If you guys had faltered, if you guys had quit, if you guys had just said, I don't know if we can do this, it was your agency and a collective, the sovereign will of the people. That's why it trumps back. And what you saw here in the last 72 hours is just more of the D.C. same.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
It's the same bipartisanship kind of old Republican Party thinking. Is that clear? No, it's very clear.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
Think about this thing with Johnson. Having turfed out McCarthy because of the spending, and he's hanging with Vivek. He's hanging with Elon Musk. He's hanging with the president. Every time I look, whether it's a UFC fight or the box at the Army-Navy game or every time, he's hanging around, right? Yeah. And he, out of nowhere, there's supposed to be a CR. There's supposed to be two lines.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
Because remember, always remember, the CR itself is just continual spending from the old budget. It's about 500.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
We don't support. In principle.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
We hate them all. The only reason this is necessary is because this kicks it into President Trump's administration. This is where he's got Russ Vought at OMB. This is where he has the House, the Senate, the executive branch, his team's back, Scott Besson, Russ Vought, Peter Navarro. He gives President Trump a chance to craft the current fiscal year we're in. And what happens?
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
This should be a two-line thing. And if the farmer's bill's late, you need a couple of billion, you need $10 billion for the farmers or $20 billion. The FEMA, there should be offsets. It's simple to do the offsets. There's offsets in there. You can do offsets for the FEMA money. And quite frankly, find out why FEMA hasn't given the cash they have, right? You have to drill down.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
What does he give us? Fifteen hundred pages that's negotiated from weeks and weeks and weeks. And it's a King Jeffries. There's so many. It's a it's a Democrat bill. Two thirds. And it lays another, I don't know, 300 billion dollars of spending. So then you have a trillion dollars, essentially 800 billion to a trillion dollars for this one quarter. It's just it's this madness.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
And they insult your intelligence by not telling anybody, just dropping it on people. It's so complicated. And you just read from the bio labs to the pandemic, to the
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
Biolabs and the Global Engagement Center that went out of their way to shut us all down. They're funding that. If you go through this – and they have provisions there. You can't do investigations. It's a mess, and it was highly negotiated, and they hit it.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
And it has a pay raise. That has a pay raise. We just won. We just won by bringing African-Americans, Hispanics, white working class in this bill in this coalition. It's like 1932.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
And these people, the lived experience, they're not buying the happy talk of mainstream media that the economy is doing great because it's doing great for the top one percent for the oligarchs because of federal spending. And here you give a pay raise from one hundred seventy three thousand bucks, 74 percent. And not just that.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
If they had put it up front on the cover and said, look, people, you know, have been haven't had a pay raise in 10 years. They can't support their families. And by the way, we know the guy got shot in the back and they're seething anger among people about this insurance. But we want to opt out of Obamacare, although we voted it for you guys. Right. If they had put that up front.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
If they put it up front and not hit it on page 900 of the bill, it'd be different. You'd say no, but at least you wouldn't try to hide things. This shows you it's not just Johnson. Clearly, he must be removed, but it's not him. It's deeper than that. This is the mindset of the political class. This is how they think. And they think you always have to compromise. You always go with supplicants.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
You weren't supplicants when you walked these, when you canvassed these neighborhoods. You weren't supplicants when Pressler went out and changed the architecture of the voting population of Pennsylvania. You weren't supplicants when you had Trump's back in Georgia, in New York City, in Florida, when you were standing outside protesting when he was hauled before these fake judges.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
We haven't been supplicants in four years. Why would we do it when we win? We don't have to. We just have to be on offense.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
That's what I'm saying. It's a malignant cancer. It's this mindset. And then they also don't understand the new ecosystem of media. First off— You people thrive for information. That's what you're doing. So this is why you're doing Charlie Kirk. Look, the war room is not an easy watch. We don't do a crack a lot of jokes or have it's not. We're not chasing.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
You know, we don't chase the shiny toys that people want to want to know.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
It's tough. And Charlie Kirk, not a lot of laughs. No. But why do you... Listen, you're a cadre. These shows are not for a mass audience. We will never be the biggest show. Charlie will never be the biggest show. We'll see. You're a... You're... I want to do sponsorships for Charlie, so I'll knock down things. We'll see.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
No. It's a great point.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
If you look at any revolutionary movement, if you look at the revolution, our American revolution, you have cadres, small groups of people that form together. They get information. This was the committees of correspondence. This was the subtext of the revolution. This is what led to the Continental Congress.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
This is what led the Continental Congress to say, hey, look, we've actually got to declare independence. We can't work with the House of Commons anymore. That is what you are. Please remember your place in history when the history of this age is written. They will not remember Elon Musk. They will not remember Tucker Carlson. They're not going to remember Charlie Kirk or Steve Bannon.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
It's going to be the age of Trump, and they're going to remember the MAGA movement. They're going to say a movement came up from the 2008 financial crisis. It took decades to build, but eventually it took over the politics of the country, of the American republic, and saved the American republic. That's what you guys are. And you just had a historic win. You don't need to sit there.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
When Johnson sends you 1,500 pages, you go, no, we're not going to do this. We're not going to play these games. We're not going to do this anymore. The country's heading towards bankruptcy. We have to have Trump's back getting him here. So right now, I say, shut it down.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
Okay. Okay. And this is the reason the mainstream media is meaningless now. Because if you watch the 6 o'clock broadcast news, it's so stupid, right? Quite frankly, even if you watch MSNBC and CNN, it's so ridiculous. Not just biased, stupid. Fox is Fox, right?
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
If you look at the podcast, if you look at the Twitter, these different social media platforms, all the information, the force multiplier, the hardest job I have every day and the producers of my show is to keep ahead of you. To make sure that, hey, they've heard this. They know this, right? What are we going to tell them? Driving. Driving. What information are we going to have that's new to them?
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
How do we make sure that we're always at the cutting edge? And that is the compliment to you. This is what populism is. Your agency is driving this. Not any, at least think about it for a second. Let's go back to 2021. Look at all, go to Fox, go to MSNBC, go to CNN. Just read the papers, Washington Post, every pundit. Trump is finished. Trump is dead. MAGA's finished. MAGA's dead.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
Over and over and over again. It was their mantra. You just won the biggest election and comeback in American history. The pundits were wrong and you were right. I want you to understand that. You were right politically, right? You were right as political scientists. You don't have to have a PhD from the University of Chicago. That is you and you and you. You did this.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
Thanks for having me.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
There's nothing that can stop what you want to accomplish for this country. And that's why they got to still try to destroy Trump. And that's quite frankly where they still have to destroy this movement.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
I saw 16 when I got to the when there's 14 points down. They called me in August 13th because I was running Breitbart and I had a conversation with President Trump. He's like 12 or 14 points down with the Muslim family, with the Constitution. That's right. Khan Khan and the thing spinning out of control. And I said, hey, 100, because he says, how are we going to turn this around?
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
Because Ryan's about to cut us loose. Mitch McConnell's about to cut us loose. I said 100 percent metaphysical certitude. You will win. Right. We just got to focus on these couple of issues and we have to go to the blue wall. And he said, what? I said, we got to go to Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
We're going to pierce the blue wall because the lived experience of the American people is terrible right now.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
Was there something in your life that made you see it? Well, I come from a blue collar family, right? I come from a working class, you know, Democrat family. Quite frankly, we were all Democrats until the Vietnam War and then President Reagan. But it's simple to say you just see the lived experience of how people live. You just see that you can understand the math of the economics.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
The American people, we've hollowed out the greatest country in the world. We were a manufacturing superpower with high value added jobs that an individual like my dad could be a foreman for the phone company and have a stay at home mom that raised the kids and have five kids that all went to Catholic school and then all went to college. Right. That's not you can't do that today. It's impossible.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
Why can't you do that? Well, they tell you they give you all this stuff. And I said, this is not the second law of thermodynamics. This is not some inevitable law. It's not the physical property of the universe. It's because people make conscious decisions to ship the jobs overseas because they made money with having the Lao Baixing, the Chinese slave labor, do the jobs. It can all be reversed.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
You just have to have policies to reverse it. And President Trump, that's why—look, President Trump is not a particularly churchy individual, okay? He's not. He's not. But he is an instrument of divine providence, okay? I've seen it up close. No, I saw it in 16. In 16, we had no money. We had a plane. We had a man. We had a message in about 10 of us, right?
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
Well, we're in the ascended stage, but you're going to hit speed bumps like today. I mean, this is absolutely humiliating, not for us, but for the standard way that Washington, D.C., thinks, right? I mean, today we saw conventional thinking. We saw this bipartisanship, that it's a malignant cancer inside our body. Politics has to be cut out. And look over the last—it's not just the last year.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
And he defeated Hillary Clinton, the Clinton mafia, particularly in Michigan, Wisconsin. And here's why. The first thing we did on the campaign, I took it over. I said, we're going to go to Flint, Michigan. And he goes, that's a democratic city. I go, exactly where are we going to go? You can go to Flint. She can't. Then he went to Mexico and met the president because you can go to Mexico.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
She can't. You could go to places that people all of a sudden see. And remember, they hated him so much, they tried to destroy him right from the beginning, from the very first second that we won. In 2020, it is obvious from the mathematics that he won the 2020 election. It was stolen, right? Yeah. But that was providential.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
In this arc of this story, in the arc of this story, they had to steal it. Because we had to see, and more Americans had to see how radical they are, how they are neo-Marxists, how they would destroy this country. Now they're all coming out with the stories. about the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal in the last 48 hours, how Biden was never really present.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Steve Bannon Holds Nothing Back — Exclusive Interview at AmFest2024
They had to cover up in the National Security Council everything we've been saying for the last four years they now admit is true, right? And they never invoked the 25th Amendment. They allowed 15 million invaders into our country. They got us involved in all these forever wars all over. They shipped a quarter of a trillion dollars to Ukraine that we still don't understand why.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
Why would you trust a politician and say, look, just let's get into the entitlements. We're going to sort it out. The people that say that, the politicians say that, don't want to do the hard work and discretionary spending. We have $1.5 trillion of discretionary spending, right? You have to attack that. You have to start that. Yes. You have to start there.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
And look, I was a naval officer for eight years. I spent four years at Sea Under Destroyer. My daughter, as you know, is a West Point grad that served in Iraq. We're hawks, but we're not endless war hawks. You've got to start with the Defense Department. The Defense Department's budget has to be cut. It just has to. You can't have a tree. We have now an NDAA at $900 billion. We can't afford it.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
The social programs have to be restructured. Once we get discretionary spending and people see that we're serious, we're serious people, and it's going to be pain. There's no doubt there's going to be pain. There is going to be pain. All the easy decisions were 10 and 20 years ago. We now have a balance sheet, 36 trillion in debt, increasing by a trillion dollars every 100 days.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
So all the easy things are gone. It's now down to the heart. Inflation is not going to go away while you have this massive spending because the debt increases and you've got to refinance a third of it every year. The math here is not that complicated. It's the political will. And hopefully, President Trump, he's got Scott Besson, he's got DeRozan, he's got a great team. But
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
People that back President Trump and people that are coming to our movement now, particularly working class African-Americans and Hispanics, have got to understand that the country needs a reorganization economically and particularly about this federal government or We're not going to be a republic in another decade. You saw this from what the assassination on the street.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
They shot a guy in the back. Some rich kid shot a guy in the back. And if you look online, 95 percent of these of these kids online, that's their living experience. I'm not saying it's proper. I'm saying that's. Where it is, we have two choices in this country.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
We need to go down this MAGA revolution, this populist nationalist revolution that's peaceful, that's now getting more and more people involved in it, more and more ethnicities, more color, more races, and more economic groups, the working class, medical class. Or you're going to have a French revolution. You can see it coming. And you can see, particularly for them, a cold-blooded assassination.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
So... The stakes couldn't be higher. And that's why this Christmas, I hope everybody steps back and really thinks where we're going with the direction of this country.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
That is the strategy. I want a different one thing. I think that also because we're a populist movement and like even when I went to prison, it's next man up. When the history of this age is written, They're not going to talk about Elon Musk or Tucker Carlson or Steve Bannon or Megyn Kelly or Roger Ailes or, you know, Sean Hannity or anybody. They're going to talk about Trump, the age of Trump.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
And they're going to talk about this movement, this populist movement, this MAGA movement. It was a reaction of the people. Now, Elon was out and ahead of it. But the revolt from the folks, as soon as they understood what was going on, was enormous. And they blew up their congressmen on the phones and with the text messages, et cetera. Now, to Elon.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
What he's, I think, presented and offered to the country is pretty extraordinary. We've talked about deconstructing the administrative state now for eight or 10 years in the Trump movement. Before that, Megan, you always know that all the conservatives wanted limited government, a small government. Nothing happened. The government expanded until President Trump came along.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
The government was just out of control. What Elon Musk gives you in Vivek is a very sophisticated way to go about this and to bring all the best management techniques out of Silicon Valley and kind of the modern American entrepreneurial enterprise. And that is unique and extraordinary. And we've got to put that to work.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
What the media is trying to do is obviously trying to separate these two guys and make them a competition. And nothing could be further from the facts. And what's happened over the last 48 hours is they broke the traditional, the 1,500-page, $350 billion giveaway to the political class and to their clients and their puppet masters. And so I thought this was extraordinary.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
We just have to make sure with the new ecosystem on the right, your show, the streaming services, the new radio programs, the the social media, particularly using Twitter as a platform and other platforms. We just have to make sure we get the word out there. Our audience, like your audience, they hunger for details. They hunger for the receipts. They hunger for the facts.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
They want to use this part of their agency. So it's more incumbent than ever that we really deliver more information, more facts, and make it actionable so that people can use our agency. So I feel pretty good about it. I think President Trump laughs this off, but you should see that to me that's kind of a last – if that's what the best they got to play – Bring it.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
If the best you got to play is that there's two Sun Kings and only one sky, right? If that's what you got, then bring it. Because I think Elon and President Trump have a great relationship. Elon put real money to work on the ground game. He didn't come in, as you've seen him so many times, Megan, particularly when you were at Fox, all these donors come in, they want all these fancy advertisements.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
He came in and put money in back of working class people going door to door. I think he understands fully what's going on. And I expect great things out of this.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
Well, first of all, he lied to everybody. It's a bald-faced lie. Look, I took a lot of grief early. I think it was – It all blends together now. The first morning of this, when the 1500 people said, oh, you know, no, he's Trump's speaker. Trump loves this guy. He's very close to Trump. And I told people this is like about 20 people contacted me because I was coming out off the chain on this thing.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
I said, I know President Trump. He's going to love him until he doesn't love him. And when he understands all the facts that he was lied to and misrepresented, and Johnson dumped this thing, 1,500 pages of a $350 billion giveaway to Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer and Mitch McConnell. Once he understands the facts, he's not going to be in love with him when the guy can't deliver.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
He wants people that can deliver in the billets that they have. And Johnson is, you know, he kind of came as a compromise after after McCarthy. McCarthy. Remember, McCarthy was turfed out about the same topic spending. So, no. And I wasn't sure about taking him on because. What we have now, Megan, with this CR, these are baby steps. This was supposed to be so easy.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
To bring a clean CR, the hardest core of the ultra-mega fiscal conservatives would agree, and we hate CRs, but kick it down the road clean until President Trump comes in and then vote. The entire team can work with it. We're good with that. We will hold our nose and do that this time. This is a baby step.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
Compared to what has to happen starting January 20th, not just the investigations ending these wars, deporting 15 million people, the fiscal and economic issues before us are...
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
almost catastrophic president trump can thread the needle but you needed to be like the british call it a close-run thing you all have to be in sync you all have to have communications nobody can hide the football here's how bad they did it in this 1500 as you mentioned in your opening monologue
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
They included a pay raise from themselves from $173,000 to $243,000, plus they got out of paying anything for Obamacare. And they weren't upfront with it. They stuck that in the 1,500 pages. I think that was tucked into a paragraph on page 900. They tried to slip that in there without being upfront and saying, hey, we haven't had a COLA increase.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
I'm not saying you give it to them, but if they came and presented it like adults, hey, we haven't had a COLA increase in 15 years. People need to do this because they can't pay for their kids to go to school. The American people said, well, no, you're not getting a pay raise, but at least you would have understood it. They tried to hide that. That's that Washington mentality of hide the football.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
So, no, Johnson's got to go. The important thing for your audience, we have a deeper problem than just one guy. It's just like in taking the government apart and deconstructing. This is not about all these memes out there about you're fired. It's not about people, and it's not about research into the sex of crickets at Iowa State University. This is billets and programs.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
Programmatically, departments, billets, you know, boom. This has to be big hunks of stuff that we're just not going to do anymore. It's the scale and scope of a nanny state and the scale and scope of an American empire that our founders and framers never bought into. So Johnson's a...
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
a symptom of the problem he's not the problem himself but he there's no doubt he's got to go in fact i would our audience today would support a short term that just kicked to january 3rd to remove him a speaker, and then get a new speaker, and then come back and try to cut these deals.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
Now, Matt Boyle, as we came on your show, Matt Boyle just reported, I think there's 25 now congressmen that are saying that absolutely under no circumstances will they vote for Mike Johnson. So he's politically, he's yesterday's news. He's history.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
It is under the Constitution, though, that you have to be a natural born citizen to be president. Remember, the Speaker of the House is doing the line of succession. Now, I asked Mike Davis about this because this came up yesterday. MTG did this and Rand Paul. And Rand Paul is a very serious guy. He could take. the billet. You don't have to be in Congress.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
You don't have to be a natural born citizen to actually take the bill of Speaker of the House.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
If an issue came up a succession, but the vice, you know, the something had the president, the vice president couldn't take it to come to the speaker that you would have in there that would get kicked immediately to the president pro tem of the Senate, which is the third in line of succession, and they would take it. But no, hey, I'm open to I'm open to any
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
I actually happen to think it's a certain elegance to that because of the because of the situation with Doge and how Doge is going to participate, this, et cetera. I think Elon said I think he's already said he he's not interested, but it's that outside the box thinking.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
I kind of love right now because we have to think outside the box and we have to be able to do extraordinary things in an extraordinary time.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
I would be very comfortable with Megyn Kelly as speaker. I mean that. No, you know, you have no because you have common sense. You're tough as nails and nobody's going to be able to BS you. Right. So I'm all in for that. And I'm serious. Kelly, they put up Megyn Kelly and said, hey, we want Megyn Kelly down there. And I think it's time we had a conservative to right wing woman in charge of things.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
I'd be very supportive of that. In fact, I may I may I may throw that out this afternoon on my show. Yeah. Okay, I'll run that by the mister. Trump would support it 100%, no doubt about that.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
And they're not crazy about cash at FBI, which is, you know, in your legal background, how important that is. Look, to me, it's very simple. And I'm very upset that Gates was allowed to drop out or dropped out or whatever, because he did. He did provide a function. He drew fire from everybody. We wouldn't know his full name if Matt Gates was still there, which I think happened.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
Listen, it is about President Trump picked a team. He wants that team. And this is why I threw in so hard for Pete last week. I mean, you know, Pete from Fox. We threw in so hard for Pete last week because they were talking about Ron DeSantis. And my point was, hey, you can't have your first two out of the box. You can't let them take out. If we do this, they're going to get to Tulsi.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
They're going to get to Bobby Kennedy. They're going to get to cash. And then all of a sudden you've got, and you hear him talking on TV, what they want to do is normalize Trump. They want to take Trump away from the, he's a blunt force instrument that's giving blunt force trauma to the system. And that's what we need right now.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
We need that armor-piercing shell, and he needs his people up in back of it that have a kind of an angle of attack on this thing. And so to me, you've got to lock in hard And you got to push everybody over. This is why I say flood the zone.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
When the new Congress is sworn into the third, I would tell them we're going to do the confirmation hearings on the fourth and get all six or seven or eight of them up there and let's get on with it. Let's flood the zone. Let's overwhelm the system and continue on the system. I want to be on offense here. I want to be pushing the football. I want to be moving the chains.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Sometimes it gets a little too passive. And we let the media, as you know, this is an information war. When you let them get
The Megyn Kelly Show
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and start leaning into it and not on their back foot they're going to crush you because they have all these massive apparatuses right we we don't have that we have a we have audiences and we have audiences of activists that will turn out and not go suck their thumb because we're going to have some you're not going to win everything the power we have is the resilience of working class and middle class people that are down for the fight this is why we should be on offense all the time and i hope
The Megyn Kelly Show
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that they pick up the pace a little bit on these nominations and really force their will on the Senate to get these things done. Have your confirmation hearings, but let's get on with it. And I would love to have President Trump, at least half the cabinet, at least the national security and finance guys, all approve by the time President Trump takes the oath.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And then right after that, bang, bang, bang, you just swear in, you know, 10 to 12 people.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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I agree with you. I think I think there's some issues. I keep saying that no one should be just because we had a good week with Pete. And I think he's making a fine impression up there. Look, it's pretty extraordinary. Folks should know for a part for people because the Constitution, it is advice and consent that the Senate has.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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is essentially built after the House of Lords when we formed the Republic, has really been the Human Resources Department. One of their big functions is judges and U.S. attorneys and obviously all the, you know, 1,000 of the 4,000 people that come in to run a new government. 1,000 of those are Senate-confirmed. That's a huge, and that's what they're supposed to do, their due diligence.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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So the advice and consent they can do. I'm very worried. And people say, oh, no, these guys are going to get through now. It's pretty extraordinary to have a party when you're in charge of the Senate to actually vote against nominees. It's pretty extraordinary. It's only happened a handful of times. So I think I think but given custom and tradition, this shouldn't happen.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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But I have the same fear you have that people are lying in wait. Now, number one, as you just mentioned, who's in cycle? You know, the Tillis's of the world and the Cassidy's and the Joni Ernst. There you have to put where you have to is maximum political pressure, right, on the possibility of primaries or ultimate defeats. And for the rest, I think you've got to get up close and personal.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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President Trump is going to have to work this. This is one where I don't think he should have gotten involved in the House and he got sucked into it because of Johnson's incompetence and malfeasance on this one. He's going to have to – at the end, he's going to have to whip some votes.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And I think there's going to be some horse trading at the end, that some people are going to get some stuff to get these through. But listen – President Trump is an extraordinary character, unique in American political history. That cabinet is extraordinary. You've got Bobby Kennedy from Democratic Royalty.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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You have Tulsi Gabbard, who I think the world of, who is a Democratic congressman and kind of a progressive, but principally, one of the leaders of the American First Movement as overall intelligence, where even the CIA reports to her.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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You have Pete Hegseth, who's a combat vet, but we've never had a combat vet at that age actually run the Pentagon that's now the biggest industrial complex in the world. You have Kash Patel, who I think has a tremendous record in counterintelligence, terrorism, all that, which you need in the FBI, but has made a point that he's going to restructure the FBI.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And quite frankly, he sees that there are going to be a number of areas that we have to do serious investigations on. So these are all outside the box picks. And that means you're going to have to do some. It's a heavy lift, but you have to do it.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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I think President Trump will eventually be involved here and actually whip in the votes as we get down to the end, because I share your absolute concern that this is a long way from over, folks.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Also for your audience, I do not, at the end of the day, I think you're going to have one or two Democrats, folks. Watch Fetterman. Watch Fetterman, who had many America First and MAGA leanings. He's obviously got some very progressive stuff on the social side, but his position on the takeover of U.S.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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steel by the Japanese, a lot of his economic positions, this guy wrote Kahane in the House, but particularly Fetterman in the Senate. He's very pro-Israel. He supports President Trump's policies in the Middle East. Fetterman could be a guy That and I think you already said it was Pam Bond. He's already said somebody he's already met with and he's a yes.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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I see him as a potential yes on a Tulsi Gabbard. Right. I see him as a potential yes on a Bobby Kennedy. So Fetterman and maybe one other Democrat may be there to give you some headroom that you not normally have and not be held up by Mitch McConnell. I mean, Mitch McConnell is is going to have a gun to her head on this thing. There's no doubt about that.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Six months outside a year. But the first 100 days, first six months, you've got to be getting all three. He's got to personally get involved in the bringing to a conclusion the Ukraine war. And I think also this Middle East situation, particularly with the Persians getting close to a nuclear weapon, as he warned about.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And I think on the border, the first reconciliation, Miller and Homan, the deportations, building the wall. and then the financial and economic crisis. He's got, I think, outside a year, I would put it as, for planning purposes, 100 days to six months, you've got to get on with it. And I mean, this is my point. You've got to be driving this thing every day.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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political class is infected with a malignant cancer. That cancer is bipartisanship. Was there any bipartisanship in Scott Pressler going around for the last four years and changing the makeup of the electorate in Pennsylvania or in Arizona? Was there any? No. The conversation is over. President Trump
The Megyn Kelly Show
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I wouldn't even take off, if we were on the team, I wouldn't even take off Even Christmas Day now, I'd be grinding every second of every day because they're lying in wait. And remember, they're going to put a billion dollars in the back of Hakeem Jeffries to flip a handful of seats in the House on the House side in 26.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And the first thing Hakeem Jeffries is going to do because he promises it to his donors is impeach Trump. We're not out of this. We're far from being out. Even everything we accomplished. extraordinary you and everybody on the media side in this new ecosystem, inspiring people, the people coming out and do it.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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This is a people's victory, but November 5th, you got to understand that's just like that gets you to the table to start the fight. And it's going to be brutal. They're going to pull out. They have, they will pull out every stop. You've already seen this and what they've tried to do, president Trump and their goal and objective is to flip the house and
The Megyn Kelly Show
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In two years, and Hakeem Jeffries, the first thing he'll move is impeachment on Trump and maybe many people in the cabinet. So folks have got to understand this is a political war. And we're at the very beginning of this. Don't think the great work we did on November 5th means anything to these people. They could care less.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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They're going to fight with every tool they have and legal tool, political tool, information tool, deal from the bottom of the deck, do things that are unfair. So it's – and I'm not even talking about our foreign enemies, the Chinese Communist Party, the Persians, the KGB in Moscow. This is – and, oh, by the way, you've got 10 to 15 million illegal aliens just on Biden's watch.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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I'm not even considering the people here before just on his watch. So – Stakes are high, let's say six months to the outside.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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This is what gets back to this concept called reconciliation. They have this thing, it's too technical to get into, but there are this instrumentality called a reconciliation where you don't have to get cloture in the Senate. You don't have to get the 60 votes. It's majority. They come up every so often as kind of a reconciliation of the budget.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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They're technically – you've got to really thread the needle to use them. But we actually have the ability to do two reconciliations as currently interpreted, I think, by the parliamentarian in this – after Trump is – takes office. And the talk is – to use one reconciliation immediately right after his inauguration. And that is solely for the purpose of the border and immigration.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And you only need 51 votes. So you get the change that you need, right? And this is legislation. So Trump hits you with 50 executive orders, just like we did in 16, and like Biden did to reverse it. So you've got all these executive orders, unwinds, all the madness of Biden. You've also got a reconciliation bill that you jammed through with the majority.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And that's got not just some changes, but as importantly, it gives Holman and Miller some real power. You're not going to – it's nowhere in these budgets to start the deportation of these people. People are saying it's going to cost $800 billion a year. It's not.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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But they at least get some powder to build the wall, to do other security in the border, to help in those areas in the southern border and actually in the cities because every – Every town's a border town now. Every state's a border state. So it's taking on the sanctuary cities. There's resources and money in a law that's done. And that's done day one, I hope, by the 20th.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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came back from the political dead, and on the shoulders of the most powerful populist movement in the history of the world, brought in every demographic, every ethnicity, every gender in every part of the country, and won a landslide victory. All the battleground states, every demographic, and the popular vote. We have nothing else to discuss.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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That's what they should be working on or shortly thereafter. And that gives and that begins the process. I also think and we can't be fantasists here. You know, I want all 12 to 15 million gone, not just the criminals. I think you start there. I believe you have to have a sit down. And some of this is happening behind the scenes. You have to go to the frontline countries in Central America.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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You have to get the Mexicans involved. And she's already said in the last 24 hours, I'm prepared to take guys back. But you have to sit down with them and work out arrangements that, you know, even economically are going to help here because we're going to be sending a lot of people back. And we're empathetic people, right? We're not cruel people.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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We're just not going to do this and give them a bus ticket. It's not going to work like that. And you want to take that club out of the media's hands. I think he does some sort of summit, Mar-a-Lago, Rio Grande Valley, you pick it.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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But we start a formal process of how, beyond the criminal element, you start getting these people to take back, you include, I think, a couple of South American countries, like, for instance, where the Haitians, hundreds of thousands of Haitians have been there. There's a way to do this. The guy you want in a room to do that is Donald Trump. This is a big deal.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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You get reconciliation, you get money, start a formal process. Trump gets guys in the room. You start the second formal process. By the time you're six months to nine months into this by Labor Day, we've got traction. This is happening, right? The border's sealed. People are not coming across. We stopped playing the games on the migrant situation, asylum. All those games are stopped.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And you've begun a process of the criminals and the others he talks about from the insane asylums. That's in movement. Plus, countries are your partners to take these folks back and to work it out. And if they don't, Then you talk about the tariffs. You bring the tariffs. You bring economic nationals or access to the American market.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Remember, our market is the most lucrative market in the world for countries. So you have to you got to negotiate. And Trump will use he and Navarro Navarro. And he worked this out in 18 and 19 with the with the Mexican government. So but that that priority is and that's that lane. And that's got to hit. You've got to hit that hard. You got to hit it fast. You got to hit it right away.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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So you have the three lines of work that are major. Stop the wars, get the finance and debt in shape, the economy growing again, and the border. Then you have to have, and this is not about personal revenge, because people in the Financial Times think Susie Wiles is quoted quite rightly, that the best revenge is the golden age of Trump and the sunlit uplands. I agree with that.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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However, this is not about Trump. It's not about Steve Bannon went to prison or Peter Navarro or Tina Peters or anything. We have to do this for the country. This can never allow to be happen. This can never, we can't allow this to ever happen again.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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It's only about the execution of President Trump's plan. All we hear in the mainstream media is how they have to have quiet time. They got psychologists over at the State Department patting them on the head. They're too tired. There's no resistance because they can't take it anymore. Fuck you. We're going to go win.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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The Washington Post, excuse me, the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times, Megan, as you know, over the last 72 hours has been reporting and the Daily Mail puts up a lead. Now from people in the White House, they don't know if Biden was even in charge from day one. The investigations, number one, on the vast criminal conspiracy
The Megyn Kelly Show
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from the Justice Department and the FBI to New York State to Fannie Willis to all of it on the vast criminal conspiracy against President Trump with lawfare has to be with complete open sunshine exposure. That has to be investigated. It just does, whether it's at the House, at the Justice Department, and the FBI. But also, we have to get into this entire situation of the Biden White House.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Why was the 22nd Amendment called? We have to never allow these games to be played again. And by the way, on the vast criminal conspiracy, I do believe some media people are going to be brought into that.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Because I think once you start looking at text messages, once you start looking at emails, I think you're going to see that people, there were people, as you know, MSNBC and some of these publications like the New York Times and the Washington Post, that we're in on this. And so I think the investigations, we need this for the American people.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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That's kind of a sidebar that's going to take its own momentum. But you see the people he's put in the Justice Department around Pam Bondi. If you see Kash Patel, we're not going to back off. We owe this to the country. This does not have anything to do with going to prison with Liz Cheney, with the illegitimate committee. But we have to get to the roots of what that was. We have to get to J6.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Sunlight. Not security. I call it a fedsurrection. The only way to do it is complete, open, Sunshine.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Madam Speaker, it's got a ring to it. It's got a ring to it. I've got enough problems in my life, Steve. Irish gal and an Irish gal on top of it. It's got a ring to it.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Merry Christmas. Thank you, Megan.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
Thank you, Megan. Thank you for having me.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Exactly. You know, it was totally phony about what they reached out to in 2021. They were trying to crush people with lawfare, bankrupt them, debank them. We just won a sweeping mandate, and it's time to execute the mandate.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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I mean, one of the reasons you have this fiasco on Capitol Hill in the last 48 hours is still the reflex position or the default position of our political class on the conservative and Republican side is always to reach out and to work and really submit to the Washington cartel mentality. And President Trump, we want a mandate.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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It's only about executing, and we don't have a lot of time to get ready for that. Like you said, we're 30 days away, and we got to get on it like day one. I mean, his list of to-do is just huge, and that's what the focus should be, not this phony unity. Look, to me, they...
The Megyn Kelly Show
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essentially are telling you the 2020 election was stolen for the simple reasons that they're treating Trump like the president all over the world. Biden has kind of faded. Now you have articles coming out in the Wall Street Journal, New York Times. Well, he never really was president. He was infirmed from day one. They knew it. Nobody invoked the 22nd Amendment. So
The Megyn Kelly Show
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This is, to me, Megan, look, I think we're partisans. We should go ultra-partisan, at least for the first six months to a year, to get the agenda done and no prisoners.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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But here's what I think is important. The fiscal year of the government runs out on September 30th. The appropriations of the budget all should have been done because of the election year, the kind of Republican establishment wanted to kick the can down the road. So they started with the CR even on October 1st.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And what we know from October and November, from the numbers that have been put out by the government, we've had the two biggest deficit months in recorded history. $674 billion of deficits in the first two months are going to be almost $800 billion to $1 trillion in the first 90 days of this fiscal year.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Right now, we're adding about a trillion dollars of new debt through deficits every 100 days. I called this a year ago, and this is what's happened. The projection, Megan, for 400 days from now, basically the one-year anniversary of President Trump's inauguration of the 20th, is $40 trillion in debt.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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So in that context, this whole thing of another CR, because people would just say, let's get this thing sorted now. The CR was to kick it into past January 20th.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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So President Trump would have an attempt with Russ Vought at OMB, in Vivek, in Elon at Doge, to actually come up with the House members and actually come up, because all taxes and all spending have to come from the House, according to the Constitution, that President Trump would have a thing to, so this is going to be a very simple kick it into past 20th and maybe give them a couple of months.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Let's say March. Because we hate CRs. What happened, and you saw Johnson spending all this time with Elon and he's going to UFC, he's walking into the UFC. He's at the Army-Navy game in the box. He's spending a ton of time with President Trump in Mar-a-Lago and with Vivek and Elon. And what happens is he drops this thing the other day that needs to be voted in 24 hours. It's 1,500 pages. It is.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And remember the CR itself, because when you do continue resolutions, you're just basing it upon the approved spending from the previous year. So the CR in, in, in for the 90 days in any one quarter is about a half a trillion dollars in spending or almost, you know, on top of that, he layered on new spending of about $300 billion. This is a 800, almost a trillion dollar package. So, but worse than,
The Megyn Kelly Show
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80% of it was Hakeem Jeffries. And if you look at the 1,500 pages, you're a lawyer. This is a highly negotiated legal document. It's ready to be made into a law, not an executive order. This is a law. It's 1,500 pages in total giveaway to the Democrats. I mean, biolabs in Ukraine, more stuff on the pandemic, more stuff backing Fauci.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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The Global Engagement Center, the thing that you and Mike Benson and others ran about all the time, that's fully funded for another year. This was 80 to 90 percent of Democratic priorities. And now we know, as we peel it back, that Schumer, McConnell, Hakeem Jeffries basically negotiated with this guy, and he didn't tell anybody.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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The problem is he dropped it on people, another $800 billion in spending. Nobody planned on, never got Trump in the loop, never got Vivek and Elon in the loop. And then lied about it even on Fox. He goes on Fox and Friends in the morning, says, well, I'm going to message Shane with Vivek and Elon.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And I walked him through that we only have a couple of votes in the House and they're all fine with this. Well, they weren't fine with it at all. And the more you peel it back, it's terrible. So that got thrown out. And then you had this whole fiasco.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And President Trump, I think, feeling he wasn't being dealt with straight, started to put some demands, particularly said, I want to increase the debt ceiling. I don't want to get too technical, but there's a number of instruments called reconciliation that will take place early in President Trump's second term that the debt ceiling issue can be incorporated in there.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And I hope what they're doing, first off, if this has got to be what it is to shut the government down. Let's just shut it down and wait till Trump gets there. And they're going to try to extract as much pain on the American people. They're going to tell TSA to go home, although TSA are vital personnel. They're going to shut down the airports over Christmas.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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I mean, Biden would extract a lot of pain from the American people. But I think you've got to say at some point in time, enough is enough. Now, it turns out, Megan, up there, I think what they're intended now is it looks like they're going to break it down into three groups. separate bills, a clean CR that just kicks it like they should, just 90 days with nothing.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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It just says we're going to continue the spending, kick it out to March 20th, which was the original plan. Then this farm bill, because the farmers are under pressure and the banks, they're not getting paid. It'll be a separate bill, 10 or 20 billion for the farmers. And then the last will be the relief of FEMA, which normally would have to have an offset because we have tough decisions to make.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And I'm not sure the FEMA money is not there. They're just not paying it. Biden's just
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
putting the 110 billion 110 billion what normally we would have offsets for that that's an offset measure but because in the hurry and i said listen this is how you get 40 trillion of debt but and i'm not so sure fema doesn't have the cash right now i think that's a biden regime putting the screws to maga in western north and western north carolina and florida
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
But be as it may, there'll be a separate vote on that. And what I understand the latest, just when I sat down with you, is that the cuts and offsetting cuts and the deaths that will be dealt with in the first reconciliation, which will be about the border. And I would hope that that's there in the 20th. Bottom line for your audience.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
have a very dysfunctional system and johnson's got to go maybe we can talk about that but it's not just individuals not just personnel we have a systemic problem and the systemic problem is we are like a heroin addict we are addicted addicted to federal spending it's the cause of inflation and it's going to destroy this country of everything trump's got to do stopping these endless wars
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
seal the border and deportations of the 12 to 15 million. The one that's the toughest is to the intervention to break the addiction to spending and to get our hands around, to get our arms around this out of control, you know, budget and national debt. Or when you're around the Christmas tree with your husband, look at your children and just understand that we're passing them
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
a catastrophe and a crisis that will make 2008 in the great depression look like garden parties.
The Megyn Kelly Show
"Political War" Coming For Trump in 2025, and Christmas Traditions, with Steve Bannon and Doug Brunt | Ep. 971
When politicians tell you that, that is a problem. Listen, the little guy out there, he has one thing. He has a contract. Here's a contract for Social Security. It's $1,200 a month, and he's got the Medicare. It ain't a lot, but it's what he's got. And he's not going to give it up. Look at this fiasco the last 40 hours.