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Chapter 1: What does Steve Bannon think about Trump's rise to power?
All these people with college degrees and Ivy League degrees are sitting there like on MSNBC telling you the way things are going to be. And then they have a kind of a mass of, you know, the poor right below the working. They've abandoned the working class to us. This project on populist nationalism I've been working on for decades. 15 years, 14 or 15 years, and they ceded the ground.
It wasn't that hard because if you go after and present yourself as somebody that can potentially be a solutions provider or at least prepared to listen, the working class is looking for solutions. They're looking for people to listen to them. That's where Trump stepped in. He changed the Republican Party from a country club party to a party of working class people in under 10 years.
From the time I met him in 2010 – to 2000 and he really started getting really involved in probably 2012-13 in 10 or 12 years he totally changed a party to be a working class party because one of the big things the Democrats just ceded it to us they didn't try to fight it they're not trying to fight it today the people that actually speak about populism Ro Khanna
who's very smart, talking about economic patron, are Fetterman. They're kind of on an island. They're marginalized. They're marginalized. You don't see them. I keep telling them, I say, you don't see them. It's one thing to talk populist. It's another thing to get into it. You don't see those guys on MSNBC every night. You don't see them talked about and pushed every day in Democratic circles.
And these are the guys that are at least trying to come up with working class and populist solutions. And they're kind of on an island right now. The Democratic Party has just totally seen it because that credential class, They're too precious to want to get down and kind of deal with working class issues. Why did Bernie Sanders...
who had a similar position on immigration at one point to yours. Maybe not exactly similar. I don't know.
No, he had it totally similar. It was very similar. We just lifted Bernie Sanders' shit. I mean, come on. We just took it. He was 100%. He said open borders is a Koch brothers proposal.
Like that's something they wanted. Yes, he understood that. And he understood they wanted to drive down wages forever. At what point – and Bill Clinton said similar things.
Because Bill Clinton – remember, Clinton's power all came from the white working class. That's how they survived in Arkansas. That's how he won the presidency. And that's how Hillary Clinton saved herself for at least for a while against Obama when Obama ran the tables on her in the primary in 2008. Right.
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Chapter 2: How did the populist movement begin in America?
He's an anti-war populist outsider. Nobody gives him a chance at first against the Clinton apparatus, right? The Clinton mafia. He does this, a lot of it's through social media. They have an implicit bargain later with the oligarchs in what I call the algorithmic age. They allow the Facebooks, the Twitters, the Googles, all the big platforms, the big platforms that charge.
They essentially reach a Faustian pact, which is we're a hegemon globally, right? And what we need to do in the age of the algorithm is keep the commanding heights of technology. So we make an implicit deal with the oligarchs. You're going to have no Justice Department interference, no Federal Trade Commission interference. We're not going to try to break you up.
They're going to have no antitrust pressure at all. We're going to allow you to become the richest people on earth. OK, and and and but. You have to give us the commanding heights in the age of algorithm. And what have we found out? That we're, what, 10 or 12 years into this, and we know in the age of algorithm, social media and AI, they've blown them both.
On social media, if you look at our social media, it's fairly cumbersome. It's not exactly revolutionary. TikTok is much bigger. TikTok is not just bigger. It's so much more sophisticated, a thousand times. The Chinese Communist Party, it's so lethal. Because of its addictive nature, TikTok is not on mainland China.
They have a version of TikTok that's not so addictive, and they don't let the content they let in the West. This is how powerful it is. We've blown it as far as social media goes. There are orders of magnitude more sophisticated than we are, and ours is quite addictive, but theirs is much more. But then on... Artificial intelligence is even worse. Now, what do you think?
Deep Seek is a PSYOP or a Sputnik moment? Right. It's both bad. But I think you have to further the fact it may be a Sputnik moment. They are basically saying that our theory of the case in artificial intelligence was kind of mass… Machine learning, right? Power through and you need all this new energy for the data centers. They're saying that theirs is a totally different profile.
So what happens? We've lost the commanding heights in the two very technologies in the algorithmic age. We made the Faustian bargain on with these guys. There's 75 electric vehicle companies. Google has Bing and DuckDuckGo. There's no competition for Google. There's no competition of Facebook. There's no competition Amazon.
Amazon destroyed half the small businesses in this country, flooding the zone with Chinese Communist Party product. There's no competition to really competition to X or to Twitter because we let them go. And there's no Justice Department. That's why I'm a neo-Brandeisian when it comes to the Justice Department. I'm a Lena Kahn fan.
You're a Lena Kahn fan.
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Chapter 3: What role does the intelligence community play in politics?
Some of my family from Ireland came in the early 1900s. I think a few of them just to get them out, just to make a point. Yeah. If I could write a few names down and you could pass it to Tulsi Gabbard, just to make a point that, hey, we don't know where it ends.
No, no, no. I'm saying the guys coming over from Ukraine, you go to Montauk.
You've said the H-1B visas where tech people are bringing in. So my question to you is, And it's a question.
I'm a hardcore, but remember I'm hardcore to me. Yeah. Everything revolves around the American citizen. I don't care your ethnicity, your race, gender, or whatever your religion. If you're an American citizen, it should be like the Roman citizenship. You get a special deal. The whole system depends upon you. The whole world's economic system comes down on your shoulders.
You're paying the taxes to really finance the hegemon. In addition to, Your sons and daughters are the ones – you're in Romania with the 101st. You're on the carrier battle group in the Red Sea. You're on patrol in the South China Sea. You're defending the order. You're defending the whole system, and yet you're the one that's screwed over consistently. That's got to flip.
Everything's got to be – like, for instance, these visa programs. They shouldn't work unless they work for American citizens.
And what I mean by that – And you've criticized – you've said there's a lack of black and Hispanic people in tech.
Zero. Zero. Okay. The most progressive – think about it. The most progressive – People on Earth in the Obama administration created an apartheid state. Silicon Valley is an apartheid state. There's no blacks or Hispanics. And the South Asians or Indians are there as indentured servants.
They're working for a third to 50 percent less than American citizens, often in kind of horrible conditions with four or five guys to a condo and working 20 hours a day, seven days a week because if they complain, they get the boot. OK, it's not acceptable. And not just that.
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