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New Details About Cause of Helicopter-Plane Crash, Trump and Zelensky Face-To-Face: AM Update 4/28

Mon, 28 Apr 2025

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New reporting sheds light on what caused the helicopter-plane crash at Reagan National, and reveals who was piloting the military helicopter that night. Tens of thousands mourn Pope Francis at a stripped-down funeral in Rome. President Trump and President Zelensky meet in Rome as the administration warns this week will be critical for peace negotiations with Russia. A Milwaukee judge is arrested for allegedly helping a fugitive escape federal custody, drawing fierce reactions from across the political spectrum. At a somber White House Correspondents' Dinner, the media celebrates itself, without a comedian or president.Tax Network USA: Call 1-800-958-1000 or visit https://TNUSA.com/MEGYN to speak with a strategist for FREE todayDone with Debt: https://www.DoneWithDebt.com & tell them Megyn sent you!

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Chapter 1: What caused the helicopter-plane crash at Reagan National?

2.915 - 18.327 Megyn Kelly

Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Monday, April 28th, 2025, and this is your AM Update. New reporting on January's crash between a Black Hawk helicopter and a commercial airliner reveals a chain of failures that led to disaster.

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19.007 - 30.216 Pope Francis

Human existence does not end in the tomb, but in our Father's house, in a life of happiness that will know no end.

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30.916 - 34.957 Megyn Kelly

Thousands of mourners gather in Rome to celebrate the funeral of the late Pope Francis.

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35.457 - 40.159 Marco Rubio

The last thing you want to do is give one of the two sides an excuse to walk away from this effort.

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40.559 - 60.025 Megyn Kelly

Secretary Rubio says Ukraine and Russia are closer to peace than ever before following a face-to-face meeting between President Trump and Ukrainian President Zelensky in Rome. At this year's White House Correspondents Dinner, no jokes, no president, no fun of any kind. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update.

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130.287 - 143.9 Megyn Kelly

The New York Times with a massive investigative story over the weekend on the fatal January 29th crash at Ronald Reagan National Airport involving an Army Blackhawk helicopter and an American Airlines regional jet, resulting in the deaths of 67 people.

Chapter 2: Who was piloting the Black Hawk helicopter?

168.651 - 189.28 Megyn Kelly

Simulating an emergency evacuation of senior government officials from Washington after an attack. The Times report marks the first public confirmation that Captain Loback was at the controls of the Black Hawk at the time of the crash. While Captain Loback was the highest-ranking soldier on board, her instructor, Chief Warrant Officer Andrew Lloyd-Eves,

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had logged more than twice as many flight hours. The report describes a series of factors leading up to the crash, including an air traffic control operator potentially stretched too thin, the use of night vision goggles, potentially distorting the pilot's depth perception at critical moments, and the activation of a rarely used runway.

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208.735 - 229.57 Megyn Kelly

The Times also reporting the Black Hawk was flying above its authorized altitude. Quote, as the helicopter approached the key bridge from which it would fly south along the river, Warrant Officer Eves stated that it was at 300 feet and descending to 200 feet, necessary because the maximum height for this route closer to the airport, had dropped to 200 feet.

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230.25 - 254.061 Megyn Kelly

But even as it reached that juncture, Warrant Officer Eves evidently felt obliged to repeat his instruction. The Black Hawk was at 300 feet, he said, and needed to descend. Captain Lobach said she would, but two and a half minutes later, the Black Hawk still was above 200 feet, a dangerously high level. The report also indicating a breakdown in radio communication.

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254.601 - 275.813 Megyn Kelly

As the controller attempted to guide them, cockpit recordings suggest key instructions to reroute were cut off. The Black Hawk crew again confirming they had the passenger jet in sight and for the second time requested visual separation. When they asked the first time, they had received approval, meaning they on the helicopter would take responsibility for avoiding the jet.

Chapter 3: What were the key failures leading to the crash?

276.55 - 289.541 Megyn Kelly

From the report, quote, the Black Hawk was 15 seconds away from crossing paths with the jet. Warrant Officer Eves then turned his attention to Captain Lobach. He told her he believed that air traffic control wanted them to turn left toward the East River Bank.

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290.141 - 313.075 Megyn Kelly

Turning left would have opened up more space between the helicopter and Flight 5342, which was heading for Runway 33 at an altitude of roughly 300 feet. She did not turn left. The Black Hawk collided with American Airlines Flight 5342 as it was moments away from landing at Reagan National Airport. In the wake of the crash, the FAA banned most helicopter flights near this airport.

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Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy in March saying the tragedy must serve as a lesson.

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319.179 - 331.345 Sean Baker

We're going to make sure we've learned from this air disaster. We're going to pay it forward so there's not other families that have to go through the pain and anguish of losing a loved one like these families had to go through.

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331.966 - 357.755 Megyn Kelly

The National Transportation Safety Board is expected to release its final report on the crash by early 2026. On Friday, the FBI arresting Milwaukee County Circuit Judge Hannah Dugan, charging her with obstruction and concealing an individual to prevent his discovery and arrest. According to the criminal complaint, six ICE task force agents arrived dressed in plain clothes.

358.195 - 378.523 Megyn Kelly

At the courthouse on April 18th, they were armed with an active warrant for 30-year-old Eduardo Flores Ruiz, who was appearing that morning on three domestic abuse charges. Upon learning the task force was in the building, Judge Dugan became visibly angry, initially ordering the agents to leave, then directing them to go and speak with the chief judge.

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One member of the task force, a DEA agent, not initially recognized as part of the group, remained stationed outside of the courtroom while the others were directed to the chief judge's office. Another agent returned to the hallway shortly thereafter.

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While most of the agents were in discussion with court leadership, the complaint alleges Judge Dugan personally escorted Mr. Flores Ruiz and his attorney out of the courtroom through a secured jury door leading into a restricted area. Mr. Flores Ruiz and his attorney then made their way to a different elevator farther from the courtroom and exited the building.

415.646 - 434.947 Megyn Kelly

Two DEA agents, not occupied by the chief judge, spotted Mr. Flores Ruiz moving through the hallway and alerted the rest of the team. Agents then scrambled to locate Mr. Flores Ruiz outside the courthouse, and when law enforcement identified themselves, he ran. Agents apprehending Mr. Flores Ruiz after a short chase.

Chapter 4: How did the White House Correspondents' Dinner unfold?

Chapter 5: What are the details of Judge Hannah Dugan's arrest?

499.21 - 503.773 John Ashbrook

I'm going to show you the way and then ushers that person out the back door. That is textbook obstruction.

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504.333 - 512.558 Megyn Kelly

Attorney General Pam Bondi on Friday sending a warning. The Trump administration will not tolerate anyone getting in the way of lawful deportation efforts.

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513.294 - 532.791 Rachel Zegler

They're deranged is all I can think of. I cannot believe. I think some of these judges think they are beyond and above the law, and they are not. And we're sending a very strong message today. If you are harboring a fugitive, we don't care who you are. If you are helping hide one, we will come after you and we will prosecute you. We will find you.

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538.183 - 554.417 Megyn Kelly

On Saturday, more than 250,000 mourners flocking to the Vatican, paying respects to the late Pope Francis. The pontiff passing away one week ago at 88 from stroke and heart failure. Foreign delegations from 164 countries attending the funeral held in St.

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Peter's Square, including President Trump and First Lady Melania Trump, French President Emmanuel Macron, Britain's Prince William, and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy. the pontiff lying in state for three days in a simple wooden coffin, resting at floor level, emphasizing Pope Francis' view of himself as a humble shepherd.

574.861 - 589.842 Megyn Kelly

Public viewing of the Pope's body ending on Friday evening with church officials. led by the acting head of the church, Cardinal Camerlengo, Kevin Farrell, performing the traditional sealing of the coffin, a ritual formally closing the period of mourning and preparing the body for burial.

590.522 - 605.391 Megyn Kelly

The funeral mass, celebrated by Cardinal Giovanni Battista Ray, the dean of the College of Cardinals, reflecting Pope Francis' lifelong commitment to humility, marked by simple rituals, solemn prayers, and a stripped-down ceremony by Vatican standards.

606.371 - 632.39 Pope Francis

We are gathered with sad hearts in prayer around his mortal remains. Yet we are sustained by the certainty of faith which assures us that human existence does not end in the tomb, but in our Father's house, in a life of happiness that will know no end.

633.359 - 652.126 Megyn Kelly

The funeral procession departing St. Peter's Square, winding through the streets of Rome, tens of thousands of mourners lining the route, many cheering and waving at the sight of the Popemobile carrying the late pontiff, others overcome with tears, a mix of celebration and deep sorrow. The nearly four-mile procession ending at the Basilica of St.

Chapter 6: What implications does Dugan's arrest have for the judiciary?

810.777 - 831.165 Megyn Kelly

We will be wherever is necessary to help facilitate the end to this cruel and senseless war. The backdrop to Saturday's meeting last week, Ukraine rejecting a U.S.-backed peace proposal, criticizing it as too biased toward Russia. In response, Russian President Vladimir Putin launching a wave of missile strikes against Ukrainian civilian targets.

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832.045 - 846.366 Megyn Kelly

Shortly after the conversation with President Zelenskyy, President Trump again posting to Truth Social, writing, quote, There was no reason for Putin to be shooting missiles into civilian areas, cities, and towns over the last few days. It makes me think that maybe he doesn't want to stop the war.

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846.806 - 865.338 Megyn Kelly

He's just tapping me along and has to be dealt with differently through banking or secondary sanctions. Too many people are dying. Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Sunday telling NBC the U.S.-led peace effort between Ukraine and Russia has made real progress, but warning that the coming week will be critical.

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Chapter 7: What is the Trump administration's stance on legal obstructions?

Chapter 8: How does the media react to political arrests?

574.861 - 589.842 Megyn Kelly

Public viewing of the Pope's body ending on Friday evening with church officials. led by the acting head of the church, Cardinal Camerlengo, Kevin Farrell, performing the traditional sealing of the coffin, a ritual formally closing the period of mourning and preparing the body for burial.

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590.522 - 605.391 Megyn Kelly

The funeral mass, celebrated by Cardinal Giovanni Battista Ray, the dean of the College of Cardinals, reflecting Pope Francis' lifelong commitment to humility, marked by simple rituals, solemn prayers, and a stripped-down ceremony by Vatican standards.

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606.371 - 632.39 Pope Francis

We are gathered with sad hearts in prayer around his mortal remains. Yet we are sustained by the certainty of faith which assures us that human existence does not end in the tomb, but in our Father's house, in a life of happiness that will know no end.

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633.359 - 652.126 Megyn Kelly

The funeral procession departing St. Peter's Square, winding through the streets of Rome, tens of thousands of mourners lining the route, many cheering and waving at the sight of the Popemobile carrying the late pontiff, others overcome with tears, a mix of celebration and deep sorrow. The nearly four-mile procession ending at the Basilica of St.

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652.146 - 668.914 Megyn Kelly

Mary Major, one of Pope Francis' most beloved places of prayer. Breaking with tradition, Pope Francis choosing to be laid to rest there, rather than beneath St. Peter's Basilica, like most of his predecessors. Now the Vatican turning its focus to the conclave that will elect the next pope.

669.585 - 692.335 Megyn Kelly

the highly secretive deliberations among cardinals, the senior leadership of the Catholic Church set to begin within 15 to 20 days of the Pope's death, though the timeline could move faster if all eligible cardinals arrive in Rome and agree to proceed. The only glimpse into the deliberations comes through smoke signals issued twice a day from the Sistine Chapel. Black smoke signaling, no decision.

692.856 - 722.735 Megyn Kelly

White smoke signaling, we have a new Pope. Cardinals meeting this morning in Rome to set the official start date for the conclave. Coming up, President Trump and Ukrainian President Zelensky meet face-to-face at Pope Francis' funeral as the administration enters a critical week for peace talks with Russia. And the corporate media celebrates itself in D.C., Thank you so much for joining us.

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