Sean Baker
Appearances
Apple News Today
How Musk built his empire off of government contracts
One last thing. I want to thank the Academy for recognizing a truly independent film. This film was made on the blood, sweat and tears of incredible indie artists and long live independent film. Yeah. OK, thanks.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2149 - Trump-Zelenskyy Meeting GOES TOTALLY NUCLEAR
I want to thank the sex worker community. They have shared their stories. They have shared their life experience with me over the years. My deepest respect. Thank you. I share this with you.
The Matt Walsh Show
Ep. 1548 - Democrats Ignore The Will Of The People With This Insane Move
I've been pretty outspoken about my stance on sex work. It's our oldest profession, yet it has an incredible unfair stigma applied to it. And what I've been trying to do with my films is sort of chip away at that very unfair stigma. Personally, I think it should be decriminalized.
The Matt Walsh Show
Ep. 1548 - Democrats Ignore The Will Of The People With This Insane Move
And I guess through my work, through hopefully humanizing my characters that are usually seen as perhaps caricatures in most film and television, it will help do that.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump Suspends Ukraine Aid, Canada-Mexico Tariffs Kick In, Major Address Tonight: AM Update for 3/4
I want to thank the sex worker community. They have shared their stories. They have shared their life experience with me over the years. My deepest respect. Thank you. I share this with you.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump Suspends Ukraine Aid, Canada-Mexico Tariffs Kick In, Major Address Tonight: AM Update for 3/4
It was so embarrassing to me as an American. I just want to say that publicly. This is not the way our leaders have ever behaved. This was a setup for the cameras. It was a play to his base.
The Megyn Kelly Show
CBS vs. Free Speech, Elon Baby Drama, and Shocking Plane Crash, with Michael Knowles, Matt Taibbi, and Walter Kirn | Ep. 1009
No. We don't need it. We don't need it. So off. Your thoughts?
The Megyn Kelly Show
CBS vs. Free Speech, Elon Baby Drama, and Shocking Plane Crash, with Michael Knowles, Matt Taibbi, and Walter Kirn | Ep. 1009
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The Megyn Kelly Show
Smug Elitists at Oscars, and What Zelensky Really Did Leading to Oval Blow Up, with Andrew Klavan, Link Lauren, and Christian Toto | Ep. 1017
I want to thank the sex worker community. They have shared their stories. They have shared their life experience with me over the years. My deepest respect. Thank you. I share this with you.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Baby Goes Missing, Mother Questioned - Part 1 of Megyn Kelly Investigates: Baby Lisa's Disappearance | Ep. 1022
Because the police kept saying, the parents aren't cooperating, the parents aren't cooperating. It was like the mantra they were putting out on television. And it wasn't until after I got into the case I realized that was totally not true. They had spent 40 hours in questioning with the police. before I was brought into the case.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Baby Goes Missing, Mother Questioned - Part 1 of Megyn Kelly Investigates: Baby Lisa's Disappearance | Ep. 1022
These were people who were trying to help the police find their baby.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Baby Goes Missing, Mother Questioned - Part 1 of Megyn Kelly Investigates: Baby Lisa's Disappearance | Ep. 1022
Interrogation is not investigation. It's a strategy to get a suspect to make an incriminating statement, period. That's all it is. And so it's a really dangerous position for them to be in. The other thing that I found out later had been done Uh, was that they, they pulled a strategy on them that's called the prisoner's dilemma.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Baby Goes Missing, Mother Questioned - Part 1 of Megyn Kelly Investigates: Baby Lisa's Disappearance | Ep. 1022
Uh, and what you do when you have two suspects in a case is you tell each of them that the other one is implicating them. And so they better start talking and get out ahead of it, or they're going to be the one left holding the bag. And, and so they did that with Jeremy and Deborah. Um, they had each done like a 10 hour videotaped interview. And they took a little snippet out of each one.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Baby Goes Missing, Mother Questioned - Part 1 of Megyn Kelly Investigates: Baby Lisa's Disappearance | Ep. 1022
And so the public impression was these parents had something to hide. And that came through on the news coverage.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
Well, look, obviously this is a big issue in the election. Dan referenced it earlier. later before. I mean, the woke-ism, the pendulum swung way, way, way too far. And I think what Trump is doing is resetting that.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
This is, again, where he can get some great wins on these things through executive order, that while he waits for reconciliation, some of the big policy issues to come in, really kind of score points with the American people, resetting the culture issues that swung too far. And so going through the museums, resetting these things, rebuilding these statues.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
And the funny thing is, it's been probably eight or nine months since I've seen saw any inside polling on this. But even when it comes to Confederate statues and renaming things like Fort Bragg, those were extremely popular. It didn't mean that anybody was a Confederate or racist or anything like that. I just I think there's an aspect of not whitewashing history that was important.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
So there's this kind of covers a lot of ground that I think he's on solid ground with the base and probably the majority of Americans, regardless of party. Yeah.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
Sean says, yes, go for it. That's how we all feel. I have his back. Lean in. Lean in, brother.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
Go ahead, Sean. But to your point, the caliber of these people, what he was talking about when Brett Baer was telling him, so you co-founded Airbnb. You're the CFO of Morgan Stanley. The credentials of these people. We talked about this a little on the morning meeting this morning that it was the illumination of just the – it wasn't like – you know, finding some buried treasure.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
The guy was like, yeah, we found out that the department of HHS has 40 CFOs, 40 CFO, I mean, 40 CIOs, chief information officer. There are 4.3, 4.6 million government credit cards and 2.1 million employees. There's obvious things that are like, that doesn't make sense. That doesn't compute. 8,000 American federal workers can retire in a given month
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
because that's all the system can handle because it has to take a manila envelope going down a mine a mine that's how many envelopes can go down in a month that's insane and the idea that they were talking about utilizing common sense technology reforms efficiencies to allow the government to run better and even elon when it came to social security made it very clear
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
that what 40% of the people who call the social security hotlines were fraudsters trying to steal the money of American retirees. And what they're trying to do is put processes in place to protect the American consumer from fraud. It's something that I agree with you. I was like, where has this been? I wanted to hear this for the last 70 days. And I finally am here. I was excited. I was fired up.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
I hope they do more because I think that the more people hear about not only what really goes on in government, but how it's being corrected, the more support Doge and Elon will get.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
Yeah, well, the scary part is that they're not alone. There's probably 1,400 people who do various other tasks. And as a guy who, look, I'm all about tech support. I've learned that you just power things on and off. And that's the extent of my tech support. So I get it. I appreciate that. And I welcome it. But I think 1,400 is a bit excessive. And unfortunately, it's not.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
Like I said, you go to HHS and they talk about having 40 chief information officers, 40. I mean, generally, when you're the chief, there's only one. But it just shows you the duplicity that exists. I think to your point, these individuals themselves did the effort a huge bonus by going out, the examples they gave, and then if we can add in the human element, the number of people who
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
you know, took a month to retire or who couldn't get a benefit or who had their money stolen. We're missing that third of the, of the piece.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
I was thinking about this as you were saying a moment ago, you know, the, the, the young gentleman that, that was so cool, um, during the state of the union, president Trump, I think did better than any previous president highlighting his policies through those individuals in the gallery.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
I think they almost need to embark on a very similar policy or a similar effort now, which is to go highlight individuals who've had struggles with the federal government, who haven't been able to retire, who were taken advantage of, who worked in the government but there was massive duplicity, et cetera, and start to literally – put faces to these problems.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
And by the way, continue to roll out members of Doge who are finding these things, not just the dollar amount and the programs, but the overall crisis that exists. Because that's not, to Mark's point, it's not waste or fraud, the fact that you can't retire, that you can only retire 80,000 people. It just doesn't make sense.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
In the military, we went to electronic medical records because literally you would have to carry your bulky medical record around with you wherever you went from assignment to assignment, station to station. And that's how we handled it until some genius realized, wow, we could just digitize this like everyone else. And it has made life a lot easier, right?
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
If we can start doing that within the federal government, it's a win-win for the government. It saves us money. It saves us time. It cuts down on bureaucracy. In fact, I'm sure as one of those gentlemen alluded to, The federal workers themselves would probably like to go that route as opposed to climbing up 10 file cabinets high to grab somebody's record from 1979.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
How to retire.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
Well, it's even worse than that, right? So that just laid out the stupid process and the amount of money we wasted on it. broadband. And people look at that and say, I had my own experience with like some tsetse fly in the backyard when they wouldn't let me put a shed up.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
But then they also look and go, wait a second, isn't there a thing called Starlink that you could get for like eight bucks that you don't even need to do all that? Right. I mean, it's worse than even that example that Ezra Klein was going through. That's that's just if you wanted to, you know what it takes to lay down broadband and do this. But then you go, OK, that's stupid enough as it is.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
But there's actually an alternative that's cost like no money. And that's linking up to Starlink, getting you Internet, not having to lay down all that. The mindlessness of everything is. that the federal government touches is unbelievable. And you're right. Most people get it and they just need to have it validated in terms of the absurdity.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
Yeah. If she still has that reset button that she handed Sergei Lavrov, maybe she wants to take a do of on this op-ed and get a reset there. I mean, this is the woman who literally brought a reset button to try to make a joke over our relationship with Russia and wants to lecture somebody else about that. I really wouldn't go there.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
Then to go into the classified issue after having kept all of your stuff on an unclassified server, wiping it with bleach blit. There are days when you go, you might want to sit this one out. This was one.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
I literally feel like she's the one who let someone in her chat that shouldn't have gotten in and wrote that op-ed. And it was her. I know. I wish she could have at least blamed that on somebody and used the reset button. But it's just embarrassing how clueless... and how unselfaware she is of her own vulnerabilities. Because it's not just that.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
When she does stuff like this, it means that Democrats have to answer for it. We get to talk about it. This is one where you literally say, I'll write it for you and then hand it off to somebody else or just sit this one out or don't send it into the New York Times. Write it in your journal or put it on your unclassified server and keep it for yourself.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
Go ahead. But, but for, for, for just one thing we got, we lost in the conversation about signal gate was that the president and his team knocked out all of those hoothy targets. No lives were lost. Targets were hit. The Obama or the Biden administration lost 13 lives coming out of Afghanistan. She dealt with Benghazi.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
If we want to talk about missions and diplomacy and actions, I'll take the Trump record over her record, over Biden's record any day of the week.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
Dan, do you think your donors on the Dem side or House rank and file House members were excited to see that op ed in The New York Times this morning?
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
Well, this is my big tell. I said this this morning. It's the manifest to Greenland is important today. More importantly, is the manifest is going from J.D. Right, so pay attention to the manifest on the flight home. Does anybody become the special envoy to Greenland and just get stuck in Nook? I hope it's not Usha. No, she's fine. I think everybody loves her.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
She bought, she bought a round trip ticket. But, but I do wonder if somebody ends up hanging around the commissary too long there at the, at the base.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
Yeah, so there's two things. Not all sins are created equal. And I think in Donald Trump's eyes right now, the sin of allowing Jeffrey Goldberg into that conversation is greater than Pete Hegseth probably going beyond what he should sensitivity-wise on that chain, right? And the mission was a success. So I think Trump looks at it and says, who am I more pissed at?
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
Somebody who allowed this Jeffrey Goldberg guy into the thing who obviously is someone of dubious character to begin with. and obviously a never-comper. Suckers and losers smear. I think, Megan, the problem that a lot of people are having is, and I said this on the show, Jeffrey Goldberg is in my phone.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
I had to call and yell at him during the transition because of a horrible, horrible story when I met him the first time that his reporter wrote that I called to chastise him about. I think if Mike Waltz said, hey, yeah, he was in my phone book because one time he was writing a profile on blah, blah, blah. I mean, I have a lot of people in my phone that- Good and bad.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
But because over 30 years you that's I mean, I actually have Mark Halperin's contact information going back like 18 jobs time. I can do Mark's bio because I don't delete anything. But that's another story. The point is that like it wasn't if it doesn't. Jameson Greer might have been the who's the U.S. trade rep. It's J.G. Maybe that's who.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
I mean that's – again, that's a whole separate thing. My point is it's an honest mistake. Instead of just saying, hey, look, the guy was in my phone book because I had to yell at him eight years ago or he did – who cares? Instead of trying to do this, I don't know how he got in my phone book. I think that that's going to – that could be the bigger problem because he's opened himself up to –
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
I think that we should investigate this. Well, at some point, I don't know enough about tech, but maybe there's some way of finding out the date that a contact entered into your phone book or something like that.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
You might have met someone 15 years ago. I've had people work for me during my six years at the RNC who I haven't spoken to since because of some of the positions they've taken. They're still in my phone book. I don't spend time purging it. I don't think that was the big sin. This, to me, is going to be the rub.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
If there is something that comes of this, that's going to be a problem because a crisis should die after 48 hours if it's not given oxygen. I think this thing has lasted way too long.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
Thank you. Thank you.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
Thank you. Thank you.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
Yeah, I'm gonna go back to that. I'm sure as a lawyer, you know the case I'm gonna cite, common sense versus nut job, where it very clearly- Historic. The court ruled that you shouldn't have to argue that hard to get known gang members out of a country who came here illegally.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
I mean, this is on its face an insane idea that a president of the United States has to go all the way to the Supreme Court to argue that people who are known gang members coming illegally into the country have to go through some serious process to get sent back. I believe the court will side with President Trump, but I think it's sad that we actually had to go to this level to do it.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
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The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
Yes. Yes. That's the biggest issue. Redistricting. I mean, that's when they're going to – that would be a huge issue that people should care about nationwide, not just the folks in Wisconsin. A lot of voter ID thing, a lot of early voting all goes through – will go through the state Supreme Court. So, yeah, for a lot of reasons, people should care about that.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
I think there's no question Democrats have the edge going to this. This is going to be a turnout thing, and that's why you're seeing Elon, Don Jr., others try to make the case, tell the town halls, personal visits, et cetera. Republicans could do themselves a huge favor – if they pick up the Supreme Court seat.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
And I would say that they're not favored to do it, but it's definitely one of those things as we head down the stretch that they have every ability to do. I can't think of any state.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
So did Scott Walker. It tends to break to the right at the end. But that assumes a strong ground game. And as you know, these off year ones are just so, so. So reading an electorate is very difficult. So, I mean, you're absolutely right. That's the one piece of hope.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
Megan, if I can real quick, this is a win-win politically for President Trump. If the Supreme Court, which I believe it will, rule in his favor for all the reasons that you kind of enumerated there, then it's a political win. If by chance the court at the highest level rules against him,
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
I think at least on the MAGA-based side, and I think for a lot of independents, after the four years that we were gaslit and told that there was no problem with immigration, that the border was sealed, that criminals weren't coming in, they'll give President Trump credit for fighting. And so this to him is a perfect issue because there is no downside. There's a downside for the country.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
If the court rules against us, God forbid they make us bring criminals back into the country. But at the end of the day, I think this is one of those ones where you, if you're President Trump leading this, to Dan's point, you've put Democrats in a trap. They either have to side with you or with the criminals.