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Ep. 2149 - Trump-Zelenskyy Meeting GOES TOTALLY NUCLEAR

Mon, 3 Mar 2025

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Trump throws Zelenskyy out of the White House after a nuclear meltdown press conference; the rest of the world reacts; and we examine whether there is a new Trump doctrine, or whether Zelenskyy simply blew it. Click here to join the member-exclusive portion of my show: https://bit.ly/3WDjgHE Ep.2149 - - - Facts Don’t Care About Your Feelings - - - DailyWire+: Join us for Backstage Live, tomorrow, at 8:30 PM Eastern—we’ll watch President Trump address Congress, then stay tuned for unfiltered, no-BS reactions you won’t get anywhere else. Watch at https://dailywire.com Now is the time to join the fight. Watch the hit movies, documentaries, and series reshaping our culture. Go to https://dailywire.com/subscribe today. Get your Ben Shapiro merch here: https://bit.ly/3TAu2cw - - - Today's Sponsors: PureTalk - Switch to PureTalk and start saving today! Visit https://PureTalk.com/SHAPIRO Tax Network USA - For a complimentary consultation, call today at 1 (800) 958-1000 or visit their website at https://TNUSA.com/SHAPIRO ZipRecruiter - Go to this exclusive web address to try ZipRecruiter FOR FREE: https://ZipRecruiter.com/DAILYWIRE Helix Sleep - Go to https://helixsleep.com/ben for an exclusive offer. - - - Socials: Follow on Twitter: https://bit.ly/3cXUn53 Follow on Instagram: https://bit.ly/3QtuibJ Follow on Facebook: https://bit.ly/3TTirqd Subscribe on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3RPyBiB

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Chapter 1: What led to the Trump-Zelenskyy meeting?

0.229 - 16.559 Ben Shapiro

Got a ton coming up for you on today's show. It is a mega show today. President Trump throws Vladimir Zelensky, the leader of Ukraine, out of the White House after a nuclear meltdown of a press conference. The rest of the world reacts, and we examine whether there is a new Trump doctrine or whether Zelensky simply blew it. We'll get to all that first tomorrow night.

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16.579 - 31.408 Ben Shapiro

Daily Wire Backstage returns live for President Donald Trump's address to Congress. We are covering it all. Do not miss the exclusive pre-show at 8.30 p.m. Eastern, followed by the full address completely uninterrupted. And when he's done, we're back with a breakdown of what it all means. Watch with us tomorrow night at Daily Wire Plus.

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35.77 - 51.097 Ben Shapiro

Okay, so before I get to the actual nuclear meltdown of a press conference, and we're going to go through the whole press conference because I think that it is a disservice to all involved for us to simply focus on the moment where everything went south. This is a long press conference. It was a nearly 50-minute press conference.

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51.437 - 64.568 Ben Shapiro

And I want to go through everything that led up to the press conference because it sort of explains where everybody is, President Trump, Vice President Vance, Vladimir Zelensky, the president of Ukraine, and how we got to the nuclear meltdown.

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65.248 - 84.174 Ben Shapiro

I want to remind you what a wise man wrote in October of 2022, quote, Henry Kissinger has been publicly excoriated for suggesting that the off-ramp to this conflict will be territorial concessions by Ukraine to Russia, a repeat of the Moscow Peace Treaty that was signed after the Soviet invasion of Finland in 1941. But he may be correct.

84.494 - 96.565 Ben Shapiro

particularly if the West is unwilling to bear the full economic and military cost of a larger war with Russia. In the end, it may be that the least bad scenario is about simply preventing the worst case scenario. That wise man, of course, was yours truly.

96.765 - 115.301 Ben Shapiro

I've been arguing since mid-2022 that the off-ramp in Ukraine involved territorial concessions to Russia, Donbass, and Crimea in return for security guarantees that would ensure no renewal of Russian war in Ukraine. That has been the clear off-ramp for legitimately almost three years at this point.

115.741 - 124.547 Ben Shapiro

And so my view when it comes to the war in Ukraine is whatever gets us to that durable off-ramp is good. And whatever gets in the way of that durable off-ramp is bad. That's all.

124.647 - 144.844 Ben Shapiro

By the way, that also happens to be the policy of the Trump administration, which is seeking an off-ramp that would, in fact, not allow Vladimir Putin to waltz into Kiev, but also acknowledges that the likelihood of Ukraine winning back Donbass and Crimea is basically zero and has been since 2014. So that was the predicate to the big meeting that was supposed to happen on Friday.

Chapter 2: What were the expectations for the Trump-Zelenskyy meeting?

2327.94 - 2344.387 Unknown

Have you said thank you once? A lot of times. Even today. You went to Pennsylvania and campaigned for the opposition in October. Offer some words of appreciation for the United States of America and the president who's trying to save your country.

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2345.612 - 2351.418 Volodymyr Zelenskyy

Please, you think that if you will speak very loudly about the war, you can... He's not speaking loudly.

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2351.619 - 2355.303 Donald Trump

He's not speaking loudly. Your country is in big trouble. Can I answer?

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2355.343 - 2355.623 Volodymyr Zelenskyy

No, no.

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2355.643 - 2365.272 Donald Trump

You've done a lot of talking. Your country is in big trouble. I know. You're not winning. You're not winning this. I... You have a damn good chance of coming out okay because of us.

2365.352 - 2376.239 Volodymyr Zelenskyy

Mr. President, we are staying in our country, staying strong from the very beginning of the war. We've been alone, and we are thankful. I said thanks in this cabinet and not only in this cabinet. We gave you, through this stupid president, $350 billion.

2376.259 - 2393.633 Donald Trump

You voted for your president. equipment, and you men are brave, but they had to use our military equipment. If you didn't have our military equipment, if you didn't have our military equipment, this war would have been over in two weeks.

2393.713 - 2399.698 Volodymyr Zelenskyy

In three days. I heard it from Putin. In three days. This is something new. Maybe less. In two weeks. Of course, yes.

2399.738 - 2403.139 Donald Trump

It's going to be a very hard thing to do business like this, I tell you.

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