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UN Secretary-General warns US against 'ethnic cleansing' in Gaza
What President Trump announced yesterday is the offer, the willingness of the United States to become responsible for the reconstruction of that area. And while you are rebuilding, while you're clearing debris, by the way, there are unexploded munitions, there are all kinds of Hamas weaponry still buried underground. For people to be able to live in a place safely, all of that has to be removed.
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UN Secretary-General warns US against 'ethnic cleansing' in Gaza
It's an enormous undertaking.
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Trump is widely expected to nominate Florida Senator Marco Rubio to serve as Secretary of State, according to a source familiar with the selection process. Now, Trump and Rubio traded personal insults when both of them ran for the Republican presidential nomination back in 2016. They've since reconciled. And in fact, Rubio is considered a finalist to be Trump's vice president this year.
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Now, when it comes to foreign policy, Rubio made his name with strong criticism of autocratic regimes in Latin America, including Cuba and Venezuela. Rubio's foreign policy views are also considered to be a bit more hawkish than those of Trump's. though both Rubio and Mike Waltz have been more in line recently.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Charlie Kirk and a McCain Join Forces?
Well, look, I mean, my frustration with USAID goes back to my time in Congress. It's a completely unresponsive agency. It's supposed to respond to policy directives of the State Department, and it refuses to do so.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Charlie Kirk and a McCain Join Forces?
So the functions of USAID, there are a lot of functions of USAID that are going to continue, that are going to be part of American foreign policy, but it has to be aligned with American foreign policy. I said very clearly when we, during my confirmation hearing, that every dollar we spend and every program we fund That will be aligned with the national interest of the United States.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The Sphere of Ignorance (feat. Amin Elhassan and Felipe Esparza)
In reality, if China wanted to obstruct traffic in the Panama Canal, they could. That's a fact. And it's my view that's a violation of the treaty agreement. And that's what President Trump is raising. And we're going to address that topic. It's one of deep concern. That dynamic cannot continue.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The Sphere of Ignorance (feat. Amin Elhassan and Felipe Esparza)
It's not in the national interest of the United States to have a canal we paid for and we built used as a leverage and a weapon against us. That can't happen. We built this thing. We paid for it. Thousands of people died doing this, Americans.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The Sphere of Ignorance (feat. Amin Elhassan and Felipe Esparza)
And somehow our naval vessels who go through there and American shipping that goes through there pays rates, some cases higher than other countries are paying. For example, a vessel from China, that's also not acceptable. But we should not be in a position of having to pay more than other countries. In fact, we should be getting a discount or maybe for free because we paid for the thing.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
I mean, I'm telling you that if you look at what happened with Colombia, generally speaking, if a leader had said, I'm going to turn back these planes, I'm not going to take them, we would have sent a note, a demarche to call it, complaining about it.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
and we would have then had a high-level outreach back and forth, and we would have figured this out, and it would have taken six weeks or what have you. In this particular case, we presented President Trump with options. He immediately took action, and the back channels existed.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
There was a lot of conversation with other figures in the Colombian government who had agreed to this and were trying to figure out a path to get us right, but it didn't take six weeks or six months. It took six hours.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
Shocked? No, I don't think they were shocked. I think it reaffirmed what they believe about him. And that is that this is not a traditional sort of orthodox American president who is going to be tangled up by interagency, you know, impediments in our government. This is someone who's action-oriented and is going to do things, actually going to do what he says.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
So, yeah, I mean, I don't think they were shocked. I think it was a good reminder. And look, I want to be clear, most of the people in the Colombian government are friendly to the United States. They were horrified by what was happening. I mean, there were leaders of their congressional branch over there that were putting messages on X like, this is crazy. Our president's a nutcase.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
I mean, they were writing that. That's their internal politics. But I think it reaffirms what a lot of leaders believe about America under Donald Trump, and that is we are led by someone who is not very mysterious. He's going to tell you what he's going to do, and he'll actually do it. And I think foreign policy works a lot better when you're led by someone like that.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
Easier, no doubt.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
I mean, I think oftentimes people think there's posturing going on. Well, they don't really mean this or they're not really going to do it. I think in my particular case, I don't have to make that argument. Right. I mean, I think they understand it. I think it's also a lot of pragmatism.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
Every conversation I've had with foreign leaders to the extent it's been conflictive or that we've had areas of conflict to talk about, I've been very clear in that is, look, I expect you to do what you're doing because you're acting in your national interest.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
And I know you've gotten used to a foreign policy in which you act in the national interest of your country and we sort of act in the interest of the globe or the global order. But We're led by a different kind of person now. And under President Trump, we're going to do what you do. And one of the terms that President Trump loves is reciprocity.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
And it's very simple, but I think people would understand it. If you charge us a 50% tariff for an American product to enter your country, we should charge you a 50% tariff here. Maybe 55. President Trump likes to have leverage too. And who would not argue that that's not fair? And how can you argue against it? But that's been our policy in many cases.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
And country after country around the world, we have no access to their markets, but their products have open and free access to ours. How can that continue? That's absurd. I think anybody who has common sense would argue that. Frankly, I think a lot of these leaders have been wondering why it took us so long to figure that out. But under President Trump, they know we have.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
Thank you. It still feels weird to hear that, but thank you.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
Well, we're not interested in bullying anybody. And we don't feel like we bullied Colombia. We feel like we had a deal. Colombia signed a deal. They signed a piece of paper that said, yes, send us these airplanes. And then halfway into the flight, they broke it. And so our answer was... Well, now we flew these planes. We had to bring them back to the United States.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
So now you're going to come pick them up. Why are we going to pay for those flights? Because you canceled them. It's not bullying. They broke a contract that we had made with them. Obviously, look, China has nuclear weapons. They're tough people. There's no doubt about it. They're tough people. They have nuclear weapons. They're a great power with a large economy.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
They're going to be a global power, but it can't come at our expense. And so ultimately, when you're dealing with great powers like China, it's going to be at the highest levels of their president and ours or their premier and ours and our president. And that interaction will happen in the case of Russia, the same.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
Eight days, but I'm not counting. I'm saying it's been eight days, eight, nine days.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
Obviously, there's going to be whatever happens with Russia will be a Putin-Trump dynamic. But I think most certainly, sure. I mean, the world is the way you do treat, not the way you treat countries, but the way you approach a nation has to be based on the strategic balance. But I don't view that we bullied Colombia, nor do I think these articles about, oh, they're going to turn to China.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
That's absurd. That's an absurd argument. I think the overwhelming majority of people in Colombia, a country I know very well, don't even like their president. I mean, this guy had an election today, he'd lose. Well, he'd lose. I mean, he's unpopular in Colombia. I mean, that's not up to us. People there will get to vote and they'll decide who they want to lead them.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
But I think a lot of their people in their business class are like, what's this guy doing? This is absurd. I mean, it's normal that you would... We were deporting people to Colombia just like we deport people to every country in the world. And by the way, if there are illegal American immigrants in another country, we would have to accept them coming this way. So I don't pay a lot of it.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
Most of the people, unfortunately, that opine on, the more I have been delved into foreign policy and the more I read people who claim to know about foreign policy, the more I realize that a lot of the people we believe are experts have no idea what they're talking about.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
Yeah, somebody told me that and that's, so two things that the game that they play. Number one is they put out an English translation and they put out a Chinese translation and they don't always overlap. The call was very straightforward. And I basically said, you're acting in the best interest of China. We're going to act in the best interest of America. We're two great powers.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
And in areas where we can work together, there's probably no problem in the world we couldn't solve working together. In areas where we have disagreements, we have a responsibility to manage it so it doesn't escalate into something catastrophic. But be clear that we're going to do these things. I did not.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
at least the translator that was on the call did not say anything to me that I felt was over the top. But then they put out these games. They like to play these games. They put out these translations where it says one thing in English and then it's translated in a different, they use a different term in Mandarin. So he was warned not to overstep himself. They never said that.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
Yeah. It's so awful. It is. It is. It's horrible. I mean, just from a human standpoint of it, to think these are people that were, I mean, they were landing. I mean, we've all been on these planes. You're getting ready to land. You're excited. You're getting ready to go. Maybe your phone's already connecting because you're ready to get on the ground.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
And if they had, I would have told them, well, I would say the same to you. Don't overstep either. But that didn't happen, at least not on the call, or at least maybe their interpreter didn't want to interpret it that way. But that was not the readout we got. But it's silly and irrespective and irrelevant. What really matters is the decisions we make moving forward.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
And, you know, China wants to be the most powerful country in the world, and they want to do so at our expense. And that's not in our national interest. And we're going to address it. We don't want a war over it.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
A few years ago, Panama made a decision that they were going to de-recognize Taiwan and align with Beijing. And with that came all sorts of money that was provided to the then president's administration for projects and things of that nature, but also Chinese investment. And one of the main investments they have is in these two port facilities on both sides of the canal.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
And all kinds of other infrastructure, cranes and the like. And so people will argue, well, that's not China, that's a company based in Hong Kong. Well, a company based in Hong Kong is the government of China. You are not a company in China if the Chinese government doesn't control you. It's similar to the argument about ByteDance and TikTok, which is-
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
Every company that operates from China or Hong Kong, which is controlled by China, more than ever controlled by China, it's no longer autonomous. They have to do whatever the government tells them. And if the government of China in a conflict tells them shut down the Panama Canal, they will have to. And in fact, I have zero doubt that they have contingency planning to do so.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
That is a direct threat. So it's a technicality. But in reality, if China wanted to obstruct
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
traffic in the panama canal they could that's a fact and it's my view that's a violation of the treaty agreement and that's what president trump is raising and we're going to address that topic it's one of deep concern that dynamic cannot continue not simply because we built it at great cost and lives and treasure but because it is contrary to our national interest.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
And then something like this comes out of the blue. And it's a horrible tragedy. And we don't forget that there were service members involved in this as well who lost their lives in this terrible accident. Obviously, it's not a State Department function, but... The key to these is first to honor those who have passed and understand the pain of these families.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
It is not in the national interest of the United States to have a canal we paid for and we built used as a leverage and a weapon against us. That can't happen. So what's the solution? Well, that's what we're going to have to talk about. And I think the president's pretty clear he wants to administer the canal again. Obviously, the Panamanians are not big fans of that idea.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
But that message has been brought very clear. And there are a lot of other areas we can work very closely with Panama on. I mean, their government generally is pro-American on a number of fronts. But this is a core national interest for us. We can work together on a lot of things, and there are a lot of things we can work with them on that are very positive on migration.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
And they can be very helpful on all sorts of things. And I hope we'll get resolution to those very soon. But that does not in any way replace the core reality that the Panama Canal, we cannot allow any foreign power, particularly China, to hold that kind of potential control over that they do. That just can't continue. But what could they do?
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
Hong Kong-based companies having control over the entry and exit points of the canal is completely unacceptable. That cannot continue. If there's a conflict and China tells them, do everything you can to obstruct the canal so that the US can't engage in trade and commerce, so that the US military and naval fleet cannot get to the Indo-Pacific fast enough, they would have to do it.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
They would have to do it, and they would do it. And now we have a major problem on our hands. That's number one. Number two, we have to talk about the fact that we built this thing. We paid for it. Thousands of people died doing this, Americans. And somehow our naval vessels who go through there and American shipping that goes through there pays rates, some cases higher.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
than other countries are paying, for example, a vessel from China. That's also not acceptable. It was a terrible deal when it was made. It should never have been allowed. They're going to tell you that it's set by an independent administrative entity and not the government. That's their internal problem. They'll have to figure that out.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
But we should not be in a position of having to pay more than other countries. In fact, we should be getting a discount or maybe for free because we paid for the thing.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
Well, I would argue that the canal is already in the arms of the Chinese. So, I mean, that's one aspect I would say. And we can't operate that way. Like, we can't operate in the world saying, well, we can't defend our national interest because if not, these countries will turn to China against us. I mean, we wouldn't allow that to happen. It would be against our national interest.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
So, but that said, I hope we don't get to that point, right? We have a... on so many topics, have a very good working relationship with Panama and with their government. And I want that to continue. But we have a core national interest that's at stake. They should understand that. And I think that they will understand that. And it needs to be addressed. And we'll do that.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
The second is to figure out why this happened so that it never happens again. This is a very busy airport, and there's a lot of traffic going in and out through the city. But it's just heartbreaking, and I'm sure as we hear the individual stories of the people involved, it will be even sadder.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
We'll do it in the right form. We'll do it appropriately. We're not here to embarrass anyone or cause internal friction or problems for them. But I can assure you if it was the other way around, and that was a canal that the Chinese had built, they would be very forceful about it. So we can no longer operate in the world with two hands tied behind our back.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
Yeah, so I mean they can today control, I mean, we love our technology and we need it for all kinds of advances. All of that depends on critical minerals at the end of the day, ranging aluminum, cobalt, you name it. They have gone around the world buying up mining rights and they control not just the mining of it, but the refining and the production of it and the use of it for industrial purposes.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
So I remember during COVID, everybody was freaking out because we couldn't get the masks because they were all made in China. And then we couldn't get this because they were all made in China. We had lost and given away our industrial capacity. This is even graver. This is the rare earth minerals.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
This is the raw materials necessary for some of the things that go into our most advanced technologies in the defense realm and the military. In medicine, 80-something percent of the active ingredients in generic pharmaceuticals in the United States are made in China. We can't make them.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
So if they decide we're going to cut you off from these things, we'd be in a lot of trouble because we gave away our industrial capacity on those things. That can't continue. That's a vulnerability that we face, and they will use it as leverage. In fact, they are already using it as leverage. For the first time ever, they have actually imposed export controls.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
on critical minerals to damage our national security, but ultimately our technological capacity as well. So it ranges topics, but ultimately, if China controls the means of production for both raw material and industry, then they have total leverage on us economically. And that's the world we're headed to. And I was wrong, maybe not in 10 years, maybe in five.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
Yeah. First of all, one of the interesting things about President Trump is he's incredibly accessible. People don't believe this, but I mean, if you're a
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
rank-and-file, not even leadership, member of Congress, and you call the President of the United States, the chances are you're going to get a call back, and you're going to get a call back from him, and you might get a call back that very day, maybe within an hour or two. He's incredibly accessible to both Americans and also to foreign leaders.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
His policies generally have been, I'll meet with any world leader. I'll engage with any world leader. That doesn't mean just because you're meeting with him, you're giving anything away, but he's willing to engage. In the case of China, there's two things. I've just described one, which is the grave threat that they pose to our national interests.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
Yeah, especially on the response part of it, right? I mean, so ultimately there was a failure here at some point. Like helicopters and airplanes are not supposed to crash into each other in the capital of the United States at one of the busiest airports in the country. This isn't supposed to happen. So it happened for a reason. And someone needs to lead a process that figures out why.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
And the other is the mature realization that no matter what happens, China is going to be a rich and powerful country. We are going to have to deal with them. In fact, and I said this in my call with their foreign minister, but I've said this publicly, the history of the 21st century will largely be about what happened between the US and China.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
So, for us to pretend that somehow we're not going to engage with them is absurd. Now, we should engage on our national interests. That is, engagement and concessions are two different things. What's been horrifying is that for 25 or 30 years, we've treated China as a developing country, and we allowed them to continue to do things that were unfair.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
We said, go ahead, let them cheat on trade, let them steal our technology, because when they get rich, they'll become just like us. They became rich. They did not become like us. And now they want to continue to have these unfair benefits. That has to stop. And they built up their military. Their military, their industrial capacity, but all over the world, their control of critical minerals.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
Again, I go back to them because people don't think about it. Buying up land in the United States. Buying up farming land in the United States in particular as well because they need to produce food and they want to be able to control that. They're doing it because it's in their national interest.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
They are doing, frankly, what I would do, maybe not the human rights violations, but they are doing what anyone would do if they were the leader of China. They are acting in China's best interest. What's been missing is American policy that acts in our best interest, and that needs to return.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
Well, the Arctic, which has gotten very little attention, but the Arctic Circle and the Arctic region is going to become critical for shipping lanes. How do you get some of this energy that's going to be produced under President Trump? These energies rely on shipping lanes. The Arctic is some of the most valuable shipping lanes in the world.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
As some of the ice is melting, it's become more and more navigable. We need to be able to defend that. So if you project what the Chinese have done, it is just a matter of time before, because they are not an Arctic power. They do not have an Arctic presence. So they need to be able to have somewhere that they can stage from.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
And it is completely realistic to believe that the Chinese will eventually, maybe even in the short term, try to do in Greenland.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
what they have done at the Panama Canal and in other places, and that is install facilities that give them access to the Arctic with the cover of a Chinese company, but that in reality serve a dual purpose, that in a moment of conflict, they could send naval vessels to that facility and operate from there. And that is completely unacceptable.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
to the national security of the world and the national security of the United States. So the question becomes if the Chinese begin to threaten Greenland, do we really trust that that is not a place where those deals are gonna be made? Do we really trust that that is not a place where they would not intervene? You don't think Denmark would stop them?
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
And then you need to lead a process to make sure it doesn't happen again. And look, it happened here. It could have happened in some other city too. And so you need to have someone at the head of these departments that are in charge of this. And it may be multiple departments because it's going to involve DOD. It's going to involve the Department of Transportation.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
I think that's been the president's point, and that is that Denmark can't stop them. They would rely on the United States to do so. And so his point is, if the United States is on the hook to provide, as we are now, we have a defense agreement with them to protect Greenland if it comes under assault.
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If we're already on the hook for having to do that, then we might as well have more control over what happens there. And so I know it's a delicate topic for Denmark, but it's, again, a national interest item for the United States.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
Well, I think President Trump, what he has said publicly is he wants to buy it. He wants to pay for it. And how we worked on something like that, how something like that is approached, obviously, is probably done better in the appropriate forms. A lot of the stuff is done publicly, and it's not helpful because it puts the other side in a tough spot domestically.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
So those conversations are going to happen. But this is not a joke. What he's saying is pretty accurate. People don't talk about it for years. This is not about acquiring land for the purpose of acquiring land. This is in our national interest and And it needs to be solved. President Trump's put out there what he intends to do, which is to purchase it.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
I wasn't privy to that phone call, but I imagine the phone call went the way a lot of these phone calls go. And that is he just speaks bluntly and frankly with people. And ultimately, I think diplomacy in many cases works better when you're straightforward as opposed to using platitudes and language that translates to nothings.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
Well, I don't remember him saying military coercion. He did. He was asked, you know, what would you rule out? Would you rule it out? Right. I don't think he's in the... Listen, he also brings to this... He said, no, I won't rule it out. Because he brings to this, this is a businessman who's involved in politics, not a politician involved in politics.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
So he approaches these issues from a transactional business point of view. So he is not going to begin what he views as a negotiation or a conversation by taking leverage off the table. And that's a tactic that's used all the time in business. It's being applied to foreign policy. And I think to great effect in the first term.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
But it may involve other elements of the U.S. government. And you need to have somebody running the agencies or there will not be. You're just not going to get the same responsibility.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
You look at the Abraham Accords and the Democrats mocked the Abraham Accords when they were made. And then by the end of the Biden administration, they became the linchpin of a lot of what we're hoping to build on. That never would have happened had there not been a transactional approach. You look at what his envoy to the Middle East, Steve Woodcock, has achieved.
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The Biden administration asked Woodcock, they asked for him to be involved in these conversations. He has brought a businessman's approach. to a very delicate and intractable foreign policy challenge and delivered a ceasefire that obviously is tenuous and has long-term challenges to it. But there are hostages being released every day.
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That didn't happen for over a year and a half until he became involved. And that's the president's envoy and very close friend who's brought the same kind of business approach to some of these challenges.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
We'll see. I mean, obviously, that's the president's priority. He has made that point. I think that what I can tell you about four years without getting into specifics, because I don't, you know, I'm not, we're not in a position yet to discuss exactly how we'll proceed tactically. What I think you can rest assured of is that four years from now, our interest in the Arctic will be more secure.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
Our interest in the Panama Canal will be more secure. Our partnerships in the We need to understand a lot of these countries in Central America, they're not destination sites. They are countries that migrants come through and that these human trafficking rings run people through. It creates tremendous instability for these countries at a tremendous cost as well.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
They would welcome help in stopping that migration corridor from continuing because it's destabilizing their countries. So I think we're going to have a Western hemisphere that's more secure in our national interest in all parts of the world. That's the goal, are going to be more secure from the Arctic to Central America to even Africa and certainly the Indo-Pacific.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
Well, we've had conversations with Mexican government officials. I met yesterday with the foreign minister of Canada. I think there are two topics and they have to be separated, but they're interrelated. The first is the migration, particularly with Mexico. There are parts of Mexico, many parts of Mexico, in which the government doesn't control those areas. They're controlled by drug cartels.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
They are the most powerful force on the ground. And they are plowing into the United States. They're facilitating illegal migration, but they are also bringing in fentanyl and deadly drugs to our country. That's a national security threat and that needs to stop. So we expect their cooperation on that because they should. If it was the other way around, they would expect that as well.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
And that needs to be addressed. Secondarily to that is the president feels that we have a trade imbalance and unfairness with Mexico on a number of products, including agricultural products that are dumped on our markets, but also the Chinese. What the Chinese are now doing is they're creating these front companies.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
They're investing in Mexican manufacturing and then backdooring using the USMCA, the Free Trade Agreement, to get Chinese goods into America. And so it creates this trade imbalance and that needs to be confronted. So when the president talks about tariffs, he talks about it on two fronts. as obviously a leverage and pressure point when it comes to cooperation on migration.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
But separate from that, it's also related to unfairness in our trade relationship. With the Canadians, obviously the border is one of the biggest, if not the biggest border, land border in the world. We share common interests there. I think they don't want to see their country filled with fentanyl either.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
Well, two things. First of all, my boss is... President Trump is a person that moves very quickly. I'll give you a perfect example. This weekend, we had a disagreement, not with Colombia, with the president of Colombia, who at four something in the morning decided to turn around flights that he had agreed to. We have it in writing.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
I think if I were them, I'd be concerned that with the crackdown on illegal immigration in the United States, people would flee north into Canada. So you would think we'd be able to work with them very cooperatively on border security. And then there's a broader trade imbalance with them that the president wants to address as well. And so that's why those conversations are important.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
These are not hostile moves.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
Well, we'll see. I mean, that's the president's decision to make. And, you know, we'll be prepared to address it from a foreign policy perspective. Whatever decision he makes on those things, that's his decision to make. Whether he makes it this weekend or a week from now or a month from now, he clearly wants to address both illegal migration, but ultimately also our economic interests.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
Who is more likely to be the 51st state, Canada or Greenland? Well, again, look, I think that, you know, we're a long ways from that point. I think the president's made his his view on this very clear. And that is our interests in Greenland are endangered and that needs to be addressed. And he's willing to buy it.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
And our interest with Canada, particularly, you know, I think if you go back and I think he said this publicly, he had a conversation with Trudeau and he asked Trudeau, well, what would happen if I impose these tariffs on you? And he said, well, we would be done as a country. we would be finished.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
And his whole point is, well, if the only way you can survive as a country is by having a trade imbalance with the United States, then maybe you should just become a state. Right. And that was the genesis of that conversation. So... We have issues that we need to address with Canada. They're good friends. I mean, we work with them on a lot of things. We have a deep partnership with them.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
But there are some issues we're going to need to address.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
Well, then who would they be selling it to? Where else would they send that electricity? I mean, it would hurt them as well. They would have no market to sell it to. And I would also argue that the United States, and look, I don't think Canada is a strategic threat to the United States. I'm not comparing them to China or what have you.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
But it brings to mind the point of energy independence and how critical that is. We don't wanna be in a situation, you mentioned that about Canada. Imagine if in the future, the argument is not Canada is threatening that. Well, who's threatening that is China, who's threatening that is Russia.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
I mean, one of the great mistakes that were made is by unilaterally disarming when it comes to energy production, by not fully utilizing our energy resources in this country. Other countries didn't follow the same line. For example, China today has the largest capacity of unused, they are able to process more oil than any country in the world right now.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
They agreed, these are Colombian nationals, illegally in the United States, and they have, I mean, under international agreements, they have to take back their nationals, and they agreed to it. At 4.30 in the morning,
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
And they build more coal plants than anybody in the world right now. They'll talk about green energy and batteries and cars, but they are using all of the above strategy on their energy. We've unilaterally disarmed on energy. All they've done is continue to increase their capabilities on energy because they know you need energy to fuel all this.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
AI alone was going to require an extraordinary amount of energy that the world right now can't produce to fuel it. Whatever country has energy resources that are cost effective is going to dominate AI, which is going to dominate many, many fields. I think at the end of the day, it's a reminder when you talk about Canada of why energy is a national security matter and why the U.S.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
must be able to have a reliable and consistent source of energy or we are in a lot of trouble. Our planes won't fly, our ships won't be able to sail, and our economy will not function without energy.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
Well, the president's position on NATO is the same every other president has had. And that is that our allies, many of our allies in NATO do not do enough to provide for their own security. Every other president has made the same complaint. He's just actually been serious about it. And that's what he's pointing to. And it's interesting. And in fairness.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
Poland, Lithuania, Estonia, the closer you are to Russia, the more they're spending as a percentage of their GDP on national defense. But then you have countries like France, or you have countries like Germany. These are big economies, powerful economies, and they don't spend as much on national security. Now, why? Because they rely on NATO.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
He, for whatever reason, was either awake or about to go to bed, and he decided to go on X and write that he had ordered that one plane was halfway there and the other had just taken off and ordered them turned around. And so in a traditional administration, it would have taken about two and a half years to react to it. It would have gone through all this and all these policy options.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
They say, well, we don't need to spend that much on- Us. Yeah, we don't need to spend as much on defense because America has soldiers here, and if they get attacked, they'll be our national defense. So we can instead spend all that money on this enormous social safety net. When you ask those kids, why can't you spend more on national security?
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
Their argument is because it would require us to make cuts to welfare programs, to unemployment benefits, to being able to retire at 59 and all these other things. That's a choice they made. But we're subsidizing that. So I think if you were to articulate the president's point on NATO, number one, they need to do more.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
And I do think long term, there's a conversation to be had about whether the United States needs to be at the front end of securing the continent or as a backstop. to securing the continent. And if you talk to countries on the eastern periphery, the ones closest to Russia, all of them are building the capability to be at the front end, the Poles, the Czechs, all of these different places.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
And if you move further west to the richest economies, Germany, France, Spain, they don't spend enough on national security. They're relying on us to be the front stop. And that's not an alliance. That's a dependence. And we don't want that. We want NATO. We want a NATO in which we have strong and capable allies. Finland's a very capable ally. They make weapons. They bring something to the table.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
We need more countries like that to behave in that direction.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
It also happens to be the reality on the ground. First, let me say this. We think what Putin did was terrible, invading a country, the atrocities he's committed. He did horrible things.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
But what the dishonesty that has existed is that we somehow led people to believe that Ukraine would be able not just to defeat Russia, but destroy them, push them all the way back to what the world looked like in 2012 or 2014 before the Russians took Crimea and the like.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
And in the result, what they've been asking for the last year and a half is to fund a stalemate, a protracted stalemate in which human suffering continues. Meanwhile, Ukraine is being set back 100 years. Their energy grid is being wiped out. I mean, someone's going to have to pay for all this reconstruction after the fact. And how many Ukrainians have left Ukraine living in other countries now?
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
With President Trump, it happened within a matter of hours. It was very quick. And so the ability to execute on action, on directive, is a big difference between being in the Senate. The Senate, the House, play a very important role. but it doesn't have the executive role.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
They may never return. I mean, that's their future, and it's endangered in that regard. So the president's point of view is this is a protracted conflict, and it needs to end. Now, it needs to end through a negotiation. In any negotiation, both sides are going to have to give something. up. I'm not going to pre-negotiate that.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
I mean, that's going to be the work of hard diplomacy, which is what we used to do in the world in the past, and we were realistic about it. But both sides in a negotiation have to give something, and that's going to take time. But at least we have a president that recognizes that our objective is this.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
Conflict needs to end, and it needs to end in a way that's enduring because it's an unsustainable. On all sides, it's ultimately unsustainable. Russia's paying a big price for this in their own economy, their inflation rate and the like. But At the end, that's the president's position. And it's the truth.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
And I think even a growing number of Democrats would now acknowledge that what we have been funding is a stalemate, a protracted conflict, and maybe even worse than a stalemate, one in which incrementally Ukraine is being destroyed and losing more and more territory. So this conflict needs to end.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
Well, I think there's the public and then there's the private, right? So and what you see portrayed publicly in conversations and what leaders say, a lot of it is speaking. They have domestic political considerations. Even Vladimir Putin, who controls media, still has to care about what public opinion is in Russia and his image and what his entire personality is built around.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
Why do you think he does the shirtless pictures? He didn't do those anymore. I think it's been a while, you know.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
Well, you know, the point is that he has got his own domestic considerations and so does Zelensky, right? I mean, at the end of the day, he's got, if you imagine if you're Ukrainian, the Russians have made you suffer so much and now you're going to let them keep land. I mean, people would be upset about that in Ukraine and you would understand it.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
And the executive part of it is the one that I think is the biggest difference, the ability to see a problem and under our authorities address it. And when you're working for someone like President Trump, it's gonna happen very quickly. There's not gonna be a lot of debate going on.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
And then there's the mature realities of life on this planet. And that's where this work is going to have to be defined. Both sides are paying a heavy price for this. Both sides have incentive for this conflict to end. Both sides are in a it's not going to end with the maximalist goals of either side. And there's going to have to be a lot of hard work done.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
And I think only the United States under the leadership of President Trump can make that possible. But it won't be easy and it'll take some time. But it's certainly something I know he's strongly committed to being to seeing happen.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
I expect we will, because that's the agreement that was made. But the core problem here remains, and that is ultimately, as long as there is an entity like Hamas, whose express purpose is the destruction of the Jewish state, who is willing to commit horrifying atrocities against civilians, against teenage girls at a concert,
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and do the things that they've done, and take hostage for a year and a half babies and elderly and murder and all the things that they did, that's a threat to Israel's national security. What country in the world can be expected to live alongside an enemy armed, capable, and willing of committing horrifying atrocities? You can't.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
So I think that the ceasefire is important because it brought an end to some of the destruction and certainly allowed hostages to be freed at an extraordinary cost. I mean, we're talking about a ratio of one to... You get a teenage hostage in exchange for 250 killers, Hamas killers that are released from prison. So just think about how unfair that trade is.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
But it tells you how much we value life compared to what the other side, the Hamas animals view this. The real challenge here is going to be what happens when the ceasefire period expires. Who's going to govern Gaza? Who's going to rebuild Gaza? Who's going to be in charge of Gaza?
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
Because if the people who are in charge of Gaza are the same guys that created October 7th, then we still have the same problem. Past is prologue. It is. And so now the good news in the region is in Lebanon, we have a government that hopefully will become more powerful than Hezbollah in the Lebanese government. And there's a ceasefire that was extended there that ultimately will lead to that.
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In Syria... a group has taken over. These are not guys that would necessarily pass an FBI background check per se.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
But if there's an opportunity in Syria, if there is an opportunity in Syria to create a more stable place than what we've had historically, especially under Assad, where Iran and Russia dominated and where ISIS operated with impunity, We need to pursue that opportunity and see where that leads.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
And if you have a region in which you have a more stable Syria, a more stable Lebanon, where Hezbollah is not able to do the things it does on behalf of Iran, a weakened Iran, who's now lost all of these proxies, it now opens the door to things like a deal between Saudi Arabia in Israel, which would change the dynamic of the region.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
And then ultimately not make easy, but make easier resolving some of these challenges that we face with the Palestinian question and in particular with the Gaza question. So there's a lot of work to be done there. None of it is certain, all of it is hard, but real opportunities that we couldn't have even imagined 90 days ago.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
Look, the president has, The president has the authority to make those decisions and to execute those orders. I can tell you they're all were run through the process that exists for assessing threat versus cost. That process was executed on. There was agreement that this was something that could be done. I've never taken lightly.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
And if circumstances change and new threats emerge or additional threats emerge, that will always be an option to address. But if you look at some of it, it's also not sustainable. I mean, theoretically, Iran decided or things got out there that Iran wanted to continue to kill people. We would have to provide everybody a security detail. So there's a balance there.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
We don't want to see any Americans harmed. risk assessment and those risk assessments were done and it led to that outcome and that conclusion.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
Well, it's not at the State Department. It's possible because when we're in our offices, we don't have our phones here in this building because for security reasons. So it's possible they've reached out as of this morning. But the truth of the matter is, you know, this is – well, there may be a state component if there were internationals on the flights, a citizen of another country.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
No, I mean, we didn't issue a pullback. We issued a clarification. We always said from the very beginning, with the exception of Israel and Egypt, because the security assistance is a cornerstone of that Camp David Accords and the deals that were made there and are critical to that region. With the exception of that, we said all foreign aid is paused for 90 days, except for things that save lives.
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And what was mentioned in the executive order were things like food and the like. We went back, people say, well, people, we have medicines that we've paid for and that are deployed and it's sitting on a shelf somewhere and we are not authorized to give it to people. So I said, all right, it makes no sense for us if we already paid for the medicine not to distribute it and give it to people.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
We don't want to see people die and the like. But this, I think what's important is to talk about the purpose of this pause, okay? If I went to these foreign entities, $60 billion a year, if I went to these and said, okay, show me your foreign aid programs and what they do, historically, we've gotten very little cooperation.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
But if you go to them and say, okay, your money is stopped until you tell us what you do, now you get a lot more cooperation. So now a process exists, and that process is you apply for a waiver. And everybody knows how to apply for a waiver. They know how to come forward and say, this is what our program does. This is why it's important.
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This is why it makes America safer, stronger, or more prosperous. This is why it's in our national interest. Now, we get details about these programs, and we may say, okay, the program gets a waiver. Or we may say, well, the program gets a partial waiver. You do five things, three of them are critical, two of them remain under pause.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
That's what it gives us the opportunity to do now, thinking of it almost as an audit, but not an audit in which we're voluntarily asking for cooperation. I think we're now getting a lot more cooperation because otherwise you don't get your money. And so I think as the weeks go on, you will see more and more programs come back online because we've had a chance to review what they actually are.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
Some will be partial, some will be full, but we've got to get control of this. We have this thing that I've called the foreign aid industrial complex.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
all these entities around the world that are getting millions and millions of dollars from the United States, we have to make sure that it's aligned with our national interest, that we are prioritizing that and that we're spending it on things that really matter and are really producing. Like we don't want 50 million in condoms to the Palestinians?
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
Okay, but part of it was they may deny the number, but they can't deny that there are things that we were doing in Gaza that had nothing to do with saving lives on the short term or even helping with a ceasefire. Here's the broader point. And I don't know, I'm rounding numbers here.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
You know, we obviously would notify their – embassy or consulate because they're families and loved ones for that notification. But I would expect that at DOD because obviously that was the Department of Defense, that was a military helicopter, three service members have lost their lives.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
But on USAID, about 11, less than 12%, let's be fair, let's say 12.5% of every dollar, so 12 cents of every dollar, ultimately reached the end recipient. That means the rest of the money was going to fund some NGOs somewhere, some organization. Maybe there's a justification for it.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
But before I stand before a congressional committee or the American people and say, we sent a dollar to help this cause, but only 12 cents of it really got to the people we're trying to help. The rest of it went into the hands of an organization. How do we justify that? I can't justify that. I need to know answers to that. And so these are the kinds of things that we have to go through.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
And ultimately, our foreign aid has to be a tool that we use to advance the national interest. The U.S. government is not a charity. It spends money on behalf of our national interest. There are a lot of great causes in the world and the private sector can raise as much money as they want for those. We, taxpayers, are going to invest in the things that further our national interest.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
And that's the process we're going through right now. And the pause has helped accelerate it.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
Yeah, I mean, so I love like mixed martial arts and boxing, right? And I see people go in the ring, and I've never heard anyone ask a boxer, why did you punch him in the face in the third round? And the boxer would say, well, because it was a boxing match. And so campaigns are a competitive environment, and President Trump's a tough guy, and so these things are gonna get rough and tumble.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
But there's another difference. I didn't know Donald Trump when he ran for president. I mean, I knew who he was, but I didn't know him as a person. Then he became president, I was in the Senate. Those were the four best years I've ever had in the Senate, because we got a lot of things done working with him. I got to work around him.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
I got to know him as a person, not as the caricature on television, but as a person about the way he works, the way he makes decisions. you learn from being around someone like that as well. The things he does on an interpersonal basis with people, the acts of kindness that are never gonna be reported, the things he does for people that you're never gonna hear.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
And over time, there's a big difference between the way you know someone and when you don't know them. And I would also say this, you know, I worked in the Senate, 99 of my colleagues, 98 of my colleagues, because I voted for myself, 98 of my colleagues, these are people I strongly disagree with.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
And then most certainly in Department of Transportation because they have the primary jurisdiction over the FAA and the broader airplane safety challenges.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
These are people that have accused people who hold some of my policy positions of being some of the worst human beings on the planet. And yet, on a personal level, I had to figure out a way to work with them and get along with them, and they're in the other party.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
So I don't understand this idea where if a Democrat and Republican run against each other, you lose the election, you're expected to now, okay, the election's over, you guys need to work together in the interest of our country. If that's expected among people that are in opposite parties, what should be expected of people that are in the same party? They should be expected to also work together.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
In the end, I'm in this because I want to serve my country, not because I want to be an enemy of anybody else's on a personal level. In the case of President Trump, I've worked alongside him and I've gotten to know him over the years and I hope that we've gained a mutual respect for one another as well. And so much so that I was honored to be his nominee for Secretary of State and now I am.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
And it's an exciting time to be here.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
Well, I think that's going to be true in any large organization. You're going to have people that are not aligned with a mission or not aligned with carrying things out. And And I think I always am careful about it, not because I'm resistant to the idea per se, but because I also think there are very talented people who may not agree with me on policy, but will do what
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
the mission is, they will carry out the mission. And I think we expect that of people all the time. I mean, if you think about it, I don't know who the pilot on, maybe it's a terrible analogy on a day like this, but we don't know when we get on a commercial aircraft who the pilots voted for, or who they are, but I don't think they're gonna harm us.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
You go to a doctor, I don't necessarily check their voter registration, and we expect doctors to treat us well. And I think the same is true for people that work. There are a lot of professionals that work in the State Department
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
who will carry out the mission, but they need to have a clear mission, and they want the State Department to be relevant again, and have deep expertise on topics that we need their support. Now look, if someone is gonna actively undermine the work of the elected administration, that's a problem. And I think any agency would argue that, and I think any president would argue that. In the end,
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
He left a very nice note and basically said, welcome to the best job in the world and I'm here to help anything you need. And it's, like I said, it's a really important job. It needs to become even more important. The State Department, in my view, over the years has become less and less relevant in the making a foreign policy for a variety of reasons.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
The State Department and foreign policy is not separate from our republic. In our republic, the American people elect a president. And that president is the executive officer of our country and is in charge with executing our foreign policy. And our agency's job is to execute the president's foreign policy.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
We don't have an independent foreign policy, independent from our republic, independent from our people, independent from the outcome of elections. And so our expectations is that no matter how people may feel about political leaders or me or the president or anybody else, their job is to execute on the policies the American people have chosen through their elected representatives.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
And that's what we're going to do at the State Department. And I think the overwhelming majority of our workforce will comply with that.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
that it remains the only place where anyone from anywhere can achieve anything. And I think from our example is what other countries we hope will try to emulate in their own nations. And so it's a testament, not just to the country, but to the people of this country. And the greatest gift my parents ever left me is, They never did my parents ever say, you can't be that.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
People like us can never be that. They've always encouraged us to have big dreams and pursue them, whatever they may lead. And if you work hard, you can achieve what they are. For some people, that dream is, I just want to have a really good job and raise a family and be able to leave my kids better off than themselves. And for others, it's professional dreams as well.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
And I am blessed to be a citizen of the only place in human history where that's happened for so many.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
And not because there aren't talented people in the State Department, there are. And I've known that from the past interacting with them, but because it moved too slowly, because it took too long to action, because you gave a directive and it took so long for the State Department to do something because of internal processes or whatever.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
that largely administrations would start to work around the State Department. And I want the State Department to be relevant again. I want it to be at the center of foreign policy making. And so that's by providing advice to the president who ultimately makes the decision about what we're gonna do. So it's a great job.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
And I tell you, it's not just the position, but to be secretary of state for Donald Trump is a great job because you know you're not gonna be wasting a lot of time. Once a decision's made, you're gonna get to act.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
Well, I think we spend a lot of time in American politics debating tactics, like what we're going to do, who we're going to sanction, what letter we're going to send or whatever. I think it really has to start with strategy. What is the strategic objective? What's the purpose, the mission?
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
And I think the mission of American foreign policy, and this may sound sort of obvious, but I think it's been lost. The interest of American foreign policy is to further the national interest of the United States of America. America first. Well, and that's the way the world has always worked.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
The way the world has always worked is that the Chinese will do what's in the best interest of China, the Russians will do what's in the best interest of Russia, the Chileans are gonna do what's in the best interest of Chile, and the United States needs to do what's in the best interest of the United States. where our interests align, that's where you have partnerships and alliances.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
Where our differences are not aligned, that is where the job of diplomacy is to prevent conflict while still furthering our national interests and understanding they're going to further theirs. And that's been lost. I think that was lost at the end of the Cold War because we were the only power in the world.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
And so we assume this responsibility of sort of becoming the global government in many cases, trying to solve every problem. And there are terrible things happening in the world. There are. And then there are things that are terrible that impact our national interest directly. And we need to prioritize those again. So it's not normal. for the world to simply have a unipolar power.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
That was an anomaly. It was the product of the end of the Cold War. But eventually you were going to reach back to a point where you had a multipolar world, multi great powers in different parts of the planet. We face that now with China and to some extent, you know, Russia. And then you have rogue states like Iran and North Korea you have to deal with. So now more than ever, we need to remember
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
that foreign policy should always be about furthering the national interest of the United States and doing so to the extent possible, avoiding war and armed conflict, which we have seen two times in the last century, be very costly. They're celebrating the 80th anniversary this year of the end of the Second World War. I think...
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
If you look at the scale and scope of destruction and loss of life that occurred, it would be far worse if we had a global conflict now and life on the planet. It sounds like hyperbole, but you have multiple countries now who have the capability to end life on Earth. And so we need to really work hard to avoid armed conflict as much as possible, but never at the expense of our national interests.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
So that's the tricky balance. So I think returning us to that Now you can have a framework by which you analyze not just diplomacy, but foreign aid and who we line up with and the return of pragmatism. And that's not an abandonment of our principles. I'm not a fan or a giddy supporter of some horrifying human rights violator somewhere in the world.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
By the same token, diplomacy has always required us And foreign policy has always required us to work in the national interest, sometimes in cooperation with people who we wouldn't invite over for dinner or people who we wouldn't necessarily ever wanna be led by. And so that's a balance, but it's the sort of pragmatic and mature balance we have to have in foreign policy.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
Well, a couple points. And we're looking forward and moving forward, but we have to analyze where we stand and the world that we inherited. And I would disagree with that assessment. I think it really begins because the Biden administration, from my view, had internal fractures between State Department and the National Security Council, between different elements of their party.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
You saw that come to fruition, for example, with our position on Israel, where you had a group that wanted to head in a different direction. That's really a fracture within the Democratic Party as well. If you look around the world, I would say that... In many cases, our adversaries are stronger than they've ever been and became stronger over the last four years.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
Certainly, Russia does not consider itself weaker than it were four years ago. They now control territory they didn't have when Donald Trump left office. I think if you look at the Middle East, we had the outbreak of a war that's been incredibly costly and divisive. It started on October 7th when these savages came across and committed these atrocities.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
They have a war in Europe as well, in Ukraine, as I mentioned a moment ago. So we had the, and I think really one of the linchpins that sort of triggered all of that was that chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan. I think that sent a very clear signal to someone like Vladimir Putin that America was actually in decline or distracted. We can move. And he did. I think you see it in the Indo-Pacific.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
It's not just Taiwan, it's the Philippines are being aggressively challenged by the Chinese militarily, where coercion is spreading throughout the world. The Chinese are using coercive tactics, not just in their near abroad, but in other parts of the world as well. So I don't agree with that assessment. I think we have a lot of work to do.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
And I'm going to tell you, and this is something that's not often appreciated enough. Countries will openly complain about the U.S. being very firm and being engaged in these things in a very firm way. But privately, in many cases, they welcome it. They welcome U.S. engagement. They want clarity in our foreign policy. and then they want us to take action to be reliable.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
And I know of no president, certainly in modern American history, who's more clear than Donald Trump, and I know of no one who's more action-oriented than President Trump. And so that's what the State Department's gonna reflect in how we proceed.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
Yeah, look, both adversaries and allies analyze everything, just as we do, right? We would watch foreign leaders and how they behave and make decisions upon that. And there's no doubt that foreign adversaries are going to look at how our leaders, not just presidents, but anybody else react and make assumptions on the basis of it.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
And sometimes, you know, look, China's perception of America, this is China's perception of the world. China's perception of the world is that they are inevitably going to be the world's greatest power. By 2035, 2050, whatever date they've set in their mind, they believe that they're on an irreversible rise and we are an inevitable decline. That the West at large, but the U.S.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
in specific, is a tired, spent, former great power in inevitable decline. And they believe that foreign policy is about managing our decline and their rise, and they want nothing to interrupt it. That's how they view the West writ large, and the United States in particular.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Buying Greenland, His Trip to Panama, and How to End the Russia-Ukraine War | Ep. 995
And so anytime our leaders sort of personify their vision of our problems, it only further cements that belief that they have, and frankly invites them to do things that perhaps they wouldn't do if they have a different calculus of us. And by that logic, we got safer the day Trump was inaugurated. There's no doubt. I've seen it.
The MeidasTouch Podcast
Trump DISASTROUSLY Breaks Campaign Promise in 24 HOURS
Yeah, I think the promise the president made, really, if you look at it, is it's going to be the priority. It's going to be the official policy of the United States that the war in Ukraine needs to come to an end. It is a stalemate. It's a war and it's a conflict that was started by Russia. But it is now a stalemate, a protracted, bloody conflict.
The MeidasTouch Podcast
Trump DISASTROUSLY Breaks Campaign Promise in 24 HOURS
It's been incredibly destructive, I would argue, for both Russia and Ukraine. But Ukraine is paying the biggest price of all. to its energy infrastructure, to the people and lives that have lost, to the millions of Ukrainians that have had to leave their countries and are living overseas. The conflict needs to end. And it's the policy of the United States that we want it to end.
The MeidasTouch Podcast
Trump DISASTROUSLY Breaks Campaign Promise in 24 HOURS
We want to do everything we can to help it end.
The MeidasTouch Podcast
Philippines Prez STICKS IT to Trump WHERE IT HURTS
Let's leave Taiwan out of it for a moment and say it's the Philippines. In the last 48 hours, there's this massive, I don't even know how to describe it, but this massive ship that the Chinese have built that's like headed towards the Philippines and the Philippines feels threatened by it. Rightfully so. We've seen this on a daily basis with the harassment and so forth, but on a daily basis.
The MeidasTouch Podcast
Philippines Prez STICKS IT to Trump WHERE IT HURTS
If God forbid there is some miscommunication or some inadvertent conflict emerges there and we have obligations to them, the impact that will have on the entire globe, the impact that it will have on the entire globe is enormous and that includes Europe. So they have a selfish vested interest in seeking for the Chinese to curb their behaviors.
The MeidasTouch Podcast
Philippines Prez STICKS IT to Trump WHERE IT HURTS
I would also point to the Europeans that what the Russians have done with Ukraine would not have been possible without the assistance of China. whether it's the sharing of technology or aid in evading sanctions or selling their oil in secondary markets. The Chinese have been hidden, but clear to everyone watching, partners in the Russian endeavor.