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Chapter 1: What are the new revelations about Biden's presidency?
Hello, everyone. I'm Shannon Bream, along with Rosanna Scotto, Harold Ford Jr., Jesse Waters, and Greg Gutfeld. It's 5 o'clock in New York City, and this is The Five. OK, President Trump ripping Biden's handlers as we get shocking new revelations on the decline of the former president, including some details about those in his inner circle and how they shielded a frail president from scrutiny.
President Trump coming in hot on this growing scandal, posting this quote. Joe Biden was not for open borders. He never talked about open borders where criminals of all kinds, shapes and sizes can flow into our country at will. It was the people that knew he was cognitively impaired and that took over the auto pen. They stole the presidency of the United States and put us in great danger.
This is treason at the highest level, end quote. And now one of the authors behind this new bombshell book is speaking out about a staged Biden town hall that was so.
making the campaign commercials. They filmed it in Delaware with supporters. But Joe Biden, at this point, this is the spring of 2024, Joe Biden's town hall, which was closed to press, was so bad that campaign officials determined that it was not usable for a campaign commercial. Some people say this was because Joe Biden was incoherent. He could not really articulate his thoughts.
Some people just said the lighting was bad. That was sort of the two points of view.
And if that wasn't shocking enough, Dick Tapper claims Hunter Biden was basically acting like the chief of staff.
Hunter was driving the decision making for the family in a way that people he was almost like a chief of staff. I think he is provably, demonstrably unethical, sleazy and prone to horrible decisions.
I mean, tell me how you really feel.
Well, I mean, I just I'm just look at the record. I mean, after his brother died, he cheated on his wife with his brother's widow and then got her addicted to crack.
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Chapter 2: How is Hunter Biden involved in decision-making?
Mm hmm. For maybe three terms in a row. Shannon, I don't think that's a conspiracy. I'm going to vote again and again and again. So he couldn't get through a fake town hall and he couldn't get through debate prep, but they sent him out anyway and he got slaughtered. Permission to make an analogy.
Let's hear it.
This is like a quarterback who can't even make it through practice. Can't even make it through seven on seven, Harold. Non-contact. He's turning the ball over. He's forgetting the plays. He's limping around. And what do they do? They send him out on Sunday and he gets knocked unconscious on the first drive. Then what happens? You got to send in the backup. Kamala Harris.
Now, why don't they have a better backup? Well, because the GM never drafted a quarterback or never signed anybody in free agency to compete for the starting job. So what do you do in the offseason? You fire the GM. Who's the GM? Jill. That's who is calling the shots. Jill and his son Hunter. So the woman the president was sleeping with is running the country.
And then his son, who's recovering from a crack addiction, is running the country. And he's filming a documentary during the whole thing. I cannot wait to see it. So, Jake, this is where he's fake. He comes out now and he says Hunter Biden is a sleazy criminal with too much access to his pop. That's what I said. And when I said it, he called me cruel and a conspiracy theorist.
So let me get this straight. The people who were wrong about Biden get book deals. What are the people who were right about Biden get? What do we get? I know I want an apology and I want a written apology because I want to frame it and I want to put it on my wall. Greg knows I don't collect art. I collect apologies.
So this is what they're saying.
They're doing the cover up. All the people closest to Joe Biden were duped. The anchors who interviewed him in person, the politicians who met with him, the reporters who traveled with him on the plane were all duped. But the millions of Americans who were watching him on TV from their couches, they knew that he was shot.
No, everybody knew they're just pretending to find out now with this book as an excuse while they cash in.
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Chapter 3: What are the implications of Biden's cognitive health?
Well, and Harold, the book talks about a lot of people who have regrets that they didn't say something before, probably because they ended with this disaster in the election in the fall. But they had knowledge and they 200 plus people have talked to them now. It's a question now that a lot of people that are running for 2028 Democrats are going to have to answer.
And they're starting to be asked, what did you know and when? I mean, that's going to be part of the vetting process for them moving forward.
Good to be with you. Glad you're here. I'd say a couple things. First, the story's not getting any better. A lot of this Jesse said very well, and Greg will say when he speaks, remind us as well as he should. Thank you. There are many around this table who were saying this, saying these things for a while. It does strike me as a bit incredulous, if not insulting, to hear
people who were covering this now to say that they had these kind of opinions but weren't saying this during the campaign. They have every right to say that, but they should not be so sanctimonious about it. I don't know when we stop. I know that there's a senator. I know when we stop talking about it, I know there's a U.S. senator who wants to do an investigation into the White House on this.
Chapter 4: Why were Biden's town halls not effective?
I don't know what... We are what we are trying to get at. And if we're trying to get at something noble, I'm willing to say we should do it. But the president has the former president will have to live with this. Those around him will have to live with this. Even his cabinet member who said that five people were running the country. Why didn't they come forward?
I mean, I think the question for me will be more so. Why didn't they all come forward if they believe that he was not fit? to be president, or did they just believe that they, was he jealous, was that person jealous, he or she, that they were not in that room? Or were they saying it because they thought that the president couldn't run the country?
But at some point, we should realize the American people recognize this. They rejected him and Kamala Harris and put back into the White House the person whom he beat four years earlier. That's where I stand on it.
Well, and the book goes back to describe that there were people who were concerned as far back as 2015 that the loss of Beau was really debilitating to him. So, Greg, that begs the question, if they were concerned about him all those years ago, was the idea just to get him elected in 24 and then do the switcheroo with the vice president? Did they really think he could go another four years?
I don't know. And I also, I don't want an apology. I want money. I want 10 percent. I want 10 percent of Jake's book. 10 percent for the little guy. Yeah, 10 percent. Very good. But you know what else I want? I want the town hall tape. Right. Let's release the town hall tape. Don't treat it like a Pamela Anderson sex tape where I got to spend days looking for it. Somebody's got it. I want it.
And then maybe we'll discuss reparations. We need Biden reparations. Reparations that Greg likes. Exactly. Finally. I can't help but think that all this went to hell when Hunter quit doing crack. Things were great when he was on drugs and then he stopped. Everything just fell apart. The truth is the people actually running the country are guilty of identity theft every day for four years.
These imposters took power that they weren't entitled to. You know, you're right. It's not about these guys. These guys weren't duped. Meanwhile, Biden wasn't even competent enough to sign away his power of attorney. You know, they preferred to keep it that way. It was like they liked him docile, like a drugged sex slave, so they could have their way with the American people. About Hunter Biden.
Yeah, he's chief of staff, his staff. These journalists had a juicy story. Cocaine in the White House. While Hunter is there. How could you not pursue that story? You got drugs. You got power. You got intrigue. You got sex. And yet the reporters didn't stop to put down their lattes. Nothing to see here. Let's move on. Hunter. Yeah. Now you say Hunter is the nexus of power.
And there was a cover up. You were there. You could have uncovered it. But no one and no one was stopping you from doing that story except you. And I think the big confession is this is about personal bias. And people are very, very embarrassed to admit their bias about Trump is what drove this story. And now I'm going to save you, Harold. I'm going to create your presidential campaign.
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Chapter 5: What are the criticisms of the current Democratic leadership?
OK, so the one person, the one person, Harold Ford, who leads the fight to expose the secret 46, you know, the unelected coven that ran the country will be the candidate. And the reason why is you cannot trust any other candidate because you will never be sure if that person will be president. How can you trust the Democrat Party if they nominate anybody who doesn't come out against this?
Obviously, somebody got to them. And the Republicans can always say the same thing about the Democrat candidate. Who are you really getting? Are you sure that's going to be the president? But the Democrat right now who stands up and leads the fight to uncover the secret 46 will win back the Democrat Party's country, their trust, because you don't have any trust.
This is the lane you are looking for. Harold Ford.
And maybe Dean Phillips is your VP pick since he was one of the only ones out there willing to raise these questions. Rosanna, interesting nugget I saw in the book. Obviously, this was written before we heard about the president's cancer diagnosis. But there's a little tidbit in the book where it talks about the doctor that is treating him was so close to him.
There are questions in the book about whether he was too close to objectively treat him in a more aggressive way. Now, with respect to this cancer, clearly didn't know a thing about that when they're writing the book. But it raises questions about whether so many people so close to him just weren't able to do their jobs objectively.
Well, we're finding out House of Cards is nothing like the House of Biden with Dr. Jill and the lead and Joe making special appearances. We now find out in this book, right, that she is the most powerful first lady in history, the defender.
I don't have contacts in the White House under Joe Biden, but something got my attention when Joe Biden and Dr. Jill went to Normandy last year and they were there for the D-Day ceremonies. And Dr. Jill was back and forth on a plane, on a military plane from Normandy to Wilmington for Hunter's trial back to Normandy.
On our tax dollar, even though the Democratic Party said that they were going to repay what they would pay for a commercial flight. Listen, Jill was not just standing by her man. She was standing in for her man.
All right. Stick around. Don't go anywhere. Coming up, RFK Jr. and Secretary Marco Rubio throwing down in Congress. It got testy with Democratic lawmakers. We'll take you there.
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Chapter 6: How does the Biden administration handle public perception?
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Team Trump going off on showboating Democrats in Congress who'd rather grandstand and yell at cabinet members than work with them on getting stuff done for the American people. RFK Jr. not taking Patty Murray's BS.
You presided over the destruction of the health of the American people. Our people are now the sickest people in the world because you have not done your job seriously. That is an amazing... What have you done about it? What have you done about the epidemic of chronic disease? Mr. Secretary... What have you done about the epidemic of chronic disease?
Marco Rubio putting Senator Margaritaville in his place, and he didn't stop there.
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Chapter 7: What are the consequences of the Biden cancer diagnosis?
She didn't do any of that. You revoked her student visa because you wrote an op-ed. And we'll do more. We're going to do more.
All right, Greg, you've been covering this for decades.
Yes, I have.
Usually when the cabinet members come in, they get slapped around. Now they're just slapping everybody else around.
You know, it's funny. What changed Marco Rubio? It's what makes a great cabinet member is a great boss. I mean, you should see my staff. Like it's like compared to Jesse. Jesse's staff is terrible because he's an absent kind of lethargic, lazy. But I would love to put my staff up against. I'm up. That's not what it sounds like. I'm in the office before my staff is.
You come in because you have no life. How dare you? But, you know, a great boss says, do the job and I'll have your back. And so you look at these guys like Rubio, RFK Jr., Cash Patel, Holman. Lee Zeldin, Hegseth, you wish you had one of those in your cabinet?
You got a murderer's row because you're working for somebody who is clear, cogent, and above all, a fighter who will hold your jacket when you're fighting as well and will jump in. This is why Biden's guys were envious. They're like, why can't I have somebody like that? Why couldn't I work for somebody like that? It's kind of like, who would you rather work for?
The Oakland Raiders of the 1970s or the Washington Generals of any decade? You know, one team says, just win, baby. And the other one says, like, just show up. Do you remember how anemic Mayorkas was? How meek Mayor Pete was? How absolutely flaccid the entire cabinet was? They reflected the energy and the aimlessness of the guy up top. They were just showing up. It was a flaccid cabinet.
Yes, a flaccid cabinet. Yeah.
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Chapter 8: How are Democrats planning to rebrand for future elections?
As is Brian, Secretary Kilmeade, if you're nasty. So I think that President Trump knew exactly what kind of men and women he was picking for this cabinet.
You remember how these things work. No one watches C-SPAN. No one has time to watch three hours of a hearing. You want to get these spicy exchanges. You want to push them out on social media and raise money from it. It doesn't seem like the Democrats are doing a very good job with that.
So I wish they wouldn't do that. I come from, and I'm only 55, but I come from a time when these hearings, there might have been a spicy exchange once or twice, but there was something undergirding it. I had a chance to host my best friend, my best boy guy, guy friend's birthday this week. His name's Harold Ford III. I call him Hap. He turned 10 years old. He had 40 of his best friends there.
And I have to tell you, the conversation at that birthday party where they were shooting each other with paintballs was more informative than stimulating than some of this craziness you see going back and forth between these people here. What I don't understand with Democrats... Why not ask Secretary Kennedy, why re-litigate the stuff that you did during his confirmation?
Why not ask him how to cut some NIH and cancer research, reconcile with your idea to make America healthy again? What are you doing in rural and urban communities to help families be able to afford healthy foods?
How is it that you say to schools across the country in the South and the Southwest, not Ivy League schools, but schools that are doing really, really critical research, that you're going to cut their funding if you want to make us healthy again? He may have good answers, but I never heard him answer these things.
Why not ask Secretary Rubio, when you meet with foreign leaders, are they expressing concern about buying our debt in light of where bond yields are in the country? President Trump said he would resolve the wars in the Middle East and Ukraine and Russia on day one. I get it. He hasn't. But where is our progress there?
And do you really believe that we should accept a plane from Qatar for the president of the United States to fly around on? I would love to hear Mr. Rubio answer those questions as opposed to these silly questions. Again, my 10-year-old son and his friends had more stimulating and informative conversation. Why wasn't I invited? You were. I thought you were there. Usually you hire me as the clown.
What about you?
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