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The U.S. and China agree to cut tariffs for 90 days. What to know.

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The courts aren't just at war with the executive branch. The courts are at war, these radical rogue judges, with the legislative branch as well, too. So all of that will inform the choices the president ultimately makes.

Behind the Bastards

It Could Happen Here Weekly 178

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With respect to you. He's a citizen of El Salvador. So it's very arrogant even for American media to suggest that we would even tell El Salvador how to handle their own citizens as a starting point. As two immigration courts found that he was a member of MS-13, when President Trump declared MS-13 to be a foreign terrorist organization,

Behind the Bastards

It Could Happen Here Weekly 178

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That meant that he was no longer eligible under federal law, which I'm sure you know, you're very familiar with the INA, that he was no longer eligible for any form of immigration relief in the United States.

Behind the Bastards

It Could Happen Here Weekly 178

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So we had a deportation order that was valid, which meant that under our law, he's not even allowed to be present in the United States and had to be returned because of the foreign terrorist designation. This issue was then, by a district court judge,

Behind the Bastards

It Could Happen Here Weekly 178

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completely inverted, and a district court judge tried to tell the administration that they had to kidnap a citizen of El Salvador and fly him back here. That issue was raised to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court said the district court order was unlawful and its main components were reversed 9-0 unanimously, stating clearly

Behind the Bastards

It Could Happen Here Weekly 178

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that neither Secretary of State nor the President could be compelled by anybody to forcibly retrieve a citizen of El Salvador from El Salvador, who again is a member of MS-13, which as I'm sure you understand, rapes little girls, murders women, murders children, is engaged in the most barbaric activities in the world, and I can promise you if he was your neighbor, you would move right away.

Behind the Bastards

It Could Happen Here Weekly 178

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Yes, it was a 9-0.

Behind the Bastards

It Could Happen Here Weekly 178

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In our favor. has the power to compel a foreign policy function of the United States. As Pam said, the ruling solely stated that if this individual, at El Salvador's sole discretion, was sent back to our country, that we could deport him a second time. No version of this legally ends up with him ever living here, because he is a citizen of El Salvador. That is the president of El Salvador.

Behind the Bastards

It Could Happen Here Weekly 178

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Your questions about him from the court can only be directed to him.

Behind the Bastards

It Could Happen Here Weekly 178

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The Supreme Court said exactly what Marco said, that no court has the authority to compel the foreign policy function of the United States. We want a case 9-0, and people like CNN are portraying it as a loss, as usual, because they want foreign terrorists in the country who kidnap women and children.

Bongino Report Early Edition with Evita

Blasphemy: Hollywood Casts Queer Female Jesus (Ep.143)

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No. The Doge is what was formerly U.S. Digital Services. It's an agency of the federal government that reports into the executive office of the president, which reports to the president of the United States.

Bongino Report Early Edition with Evita

Blasphemy: Hollywood Casts Queer Female Jesus (Ep.143)

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The way that Article 2 works is a president wins an election, and then he appoints staff, including myself, including Mike Waltz, including Susie Wiles, including Elon Musk, and those staff report to him.

Morning Wire

SCOTUS Trump Wins & Stock Market Tariff Turbulence | 4.9.25

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What does this mean for you and your family watching at home tonight? It means that the Department of Justice, FBI, DEA, ATF, the U.S.

Morning Wire

SCOTUS Trump Wins & Stock Market Tariff Turbulence | 4.9.25

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Marshal Service, Customs and Border Protection, Border Patrol, and Immigration and Customs Enforcement now have maximum authority to find and remove illegal alien gang members from Venezuela that have been responsible for so much misery in this country, for the torture and murder of Jocelyn Nunguri, for the brutal slaying of Lake and Riley.

Morning Wire

SCOTUS Trump Wins & Stock Market Tariff Turbulence | 4.9.25

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Those monsters can now be hunted down and expelled from this country with speed, force, and efficiency.

Morning Wire

Trump’s Middle East Trip, Diddy Trial & Afrikaners Controversy | 5.14.25

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There's a whole series of government laws and policies that specifically target white farmers and the white population in South Africa. That's well documented on video. And of course, you even see government leaders chanting racial epithets and espousing racial violence.

Morning Wire

Trump’s Middle East Trip, Diddy Trial & Afrikaners Controversy | 5.14.25

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What's happening in South Africa fits the textbook definition of why the refugee program was created. This is persecution based on a protected characteristic, in this case race. This is race-based persecution. The refugee program is not intended as a solution for global poverty.

Morning Wire

Trump’s Military Overhaul & Wall Street’s DeepSeek Disruption | 1.28.25

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We've seen, as you know, half a million children trafficked over a four-year period in the United States. This administration is going to investigate every instance of child trafficking, labor trafficking, sex trafficking, child smuggling, and all the attendant crimes involved in that.

Morning Wire

Trump’s Military Overhaul & Wall Street’s DeepSeek Disruption | 1.28.25

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And our message to everyone in the country is to cooperate fully with Immigration and Customs Enforcement so that we can end the scourge of child trafficking and child abuse that has been endemic these last four years.

Morning Wire

Trump Transition Support & Dismantling Federal DEI | 11.26.24

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Yeah, there are about 1.4 million migrants in the U.S. today that have received formal deportation orders, which means they've been ordered by a court to leave the country. Stephen Camerota, the director of research for the Center of Immigration Studies, talked to Fox News recently, and he said that this backlog means that the Biden administration has been very unserious about border issues.

Morning Wire

Trump Transition Support & Dismantling Federal DEI | 11.26.24

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The Biden approach has been to greatly expand legal pathways for entries, such as parole. But then when immigrants' temporary access is up, they're protected and provided for through a network of local and state governments and NGOs. Sanctuary city laws are a good example of this.

Morning Wire

Trump Transition Support & Dismantling Federal DEI | 11.26.24

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According to Camerata, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, or ICE, should still have a good idea of where these aliens with deportation orders are. After all, they have to provide a legitimate address and contact information if they want to get work permits, driver's licenses, most documents one needs in order to live and work in the U.S.

Morning Wire

Trump Transition Support & Dismantling Federal DEI | 11.26.24

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The fact that so many aliens have yet to be deported indicates a lack of willingness to deport on behalf of the federal government.

Morning Wire

Trump Transition Support & Dismantling Federal DEI | 11.26.24

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Well, take New York City, for example. It has laws that guarantee a so-called right to shelter. Practically, that means taxpayers are on the hook to provide shelter for the city's homeless, which recently has included tens of thousands of immigrants.

Morning Wire

Trump Transition Support & Dismantling Federal DEI | 11.26.24

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The city has rented out thousands of hotel rooms, taken over schools, gymnasiums, places of worship, sports fields, anywhere it can find space to shelter immigrants. It's also paid for one-way tickets for any immigrant in the city to relocate elsewhere. As long as they promise not to come back. That program, which the city calls reticketing, has been the subject of some controversy.

Morning Wire

Trump Transition Support & Dismantling Federal DEI | 11.26.24

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It's believed to be the program that Jose Ibarra used to get to Georgia. He is the illegal immigrant with alleged ties to Trende Aragua who was convicted of murdering Georgia nursing student Lakin Riley. That means New York taxpayers paid for Ibarra to fly to Atlanta where he murdered Lakin instead of paying for a ticket out of the country. New York City has done this with many others.

Morning Wire

Trump Transition Support & Dismantling Federal DEI | 11.26.24

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Mayor Eric Adams last week said that the reticketing program has relocated some 43,000 immigrants out of New York. But there are still huge numbers of criminal illegal aliens in the city. According to New York City's ICE director, it would take decades to remove them from the city at the current rate.

Morning Wire

Trump Transition Support & Dismantling Federal DEI | 11.26.24

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Well, according to Camerata, with serious effort, Trump's administration could probably deport somewhere between a third and one half of those 1.4 million. That's not a failure on Trump's part. That's just the reality of where the U.S. immigration system is right now. A problem that's been decades in the making won't likely be solved in just a few years.

Morning Wire

Trump Transition Support & Dismantling Federal DEI | 11.26.24

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But Trump will be facing a less than ideal scenario when he takes office. The Democratic Party has taken up the mantle of illegal aliens, and elected officials are already lining up to resist Trump's mass deportation plan. This was after Mayor Mike Johnston said he would use Denver police to keep ICE agents out of the city.

Morning Wire

Trump Transition Support & Dismantling Federal DEI | 11.26.24

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Now, he did also say he regretted his comments about using Denver police to keep federal agents out of the city, but he didn't rule it out. He only said it's a situation that he hopes to avoid.

Morning Wire

Putin's Partial Ceasefire & Stranded Astronauts Head Home | Afternoon Update | 3.18.25

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The president has the ability to repel an invasion or predatory incursion that is directed by a foreign government.

Morning Wire

Putin's Partial Ceasefire & Stranded Astronauts Head Home | Afternoon Update | 3.18.25

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Yes, it is documented that TDA was sent by the Venezuelan government in the proclamation. And here's an even more important point. Under the Constitution, who makes that determination? A district court judge elected by no one or the commander-in-chief of the army and navy? The president and the president alone makes a decision of what triggers that determination.

Morning Wire

Trump’s Retaliatory Tariffs & North Carolina Recovery | 2.11.25

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Other countries around the world cannot charge us 20% or 30%, or in the case of some countries, 100%, and then we charge them nothing. It is bankrupting our industry, it is driving up our deficit, it is stealing our jobs.

Morning Wire

Trump’s Retaliatory Tariffs & North Carolina Recovery | 2.11.25

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That ruling is an assault on the very idea of democracy itself. What we continue to see here is the idea that rogue bureaucrats who are elected by no one, who answer to no one, this unelected shadow force that is running our government and running our country.

Morning Wire

Bukele Meets with Trump & Meta Antitrust Trial Begins | Afternoon Update | 4.14.25

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With respect to you, He's a citizen of El Salvador. So it's very arrogant even for American media to suggest that we would even tell El Salvador how to handle their own citizens as a starting point. As two immigration courts found that he was a member of MS-13. When President Trump declared MS-13 to be a foreign terrorist organization.

Morning Wire

China Trade, India Peace Deals & MAHA Surgeon General | 5.12.25

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Well, the Constitution is clear, and that, of course, is the supreme law of the land, that the privilege of the writ of habeas corpus can be suspended in a time of invasion. So I would say that's an option we're actively looking at.

Morning Wire

Trump’s First Month & Social Security Whistleblower | 2.21.25

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Americans vote for radical FBI reform, and FBI agents say they don't want to change. Or Americans vote for radical reform in our energy policies, but EPA bureaucrats say they don't want to change. Or Americans vote to end DEI, racist DEI policies, and lawyers in the Department of Justice say they don't want to change.

Morning Wire

Trump’s First Month & Social Security Whistleblower | 2.21.25

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What President Trump is doing is he is removing federal bureaucrats who are defying democracy by failing to implement his lawful orders which are the will of the whole American people.

PBD Podcast

RFK Jr. Hearing, Trump & Guantánamo Bay, American Airlines Crash w/ Rep. Byron Donalds | PBD Podcast | Ep. 541

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Well, yes, we are going to prioritize. So first of all, the numbers you cited are a floor, not a ceiling, very importantly. They're a floor. The goal is to arrest at least that many, but hopefully many more.

Savage Lovecast

Savage Lovecast Episode 938

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Hey Dan, 38SysMail here. I got with my partner over a year ago and we dated for a little bit and I decided that she wasn't the one for me and I couldn't fully commit. So we kind of backed off and became friends. Um, we kept hanging out and we were like really good friends.

Savage Lovecast

Savage Lovecast Episode 938

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And then, uh, we went to Burning Man together and started hooking up and one thing led to another and we were right back to where we were. Whereas like I needed to, you know, either commit to her or stop, you know, and it was a really hard situation for me, but I ended up on, Hey, what if we, you know, entered into a poly space and I could fully commit to that and like she could move in and,

Savage Lovecast

Savage Lovecast Episode 938

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And that's what we did. We took a lot of time to make our relationship foundational and read all the books and podcasts. And we went on a handful of dates. And she has another partner that she sees every once in a while. And I kind of saw some people. But anyway, this summer there was a tragic accident and I accidentally left her dog in my car and he passed away. It's been absolutely brutal.

Savage Lovecast

Savage Lovecast Episode 938

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I'm feeling emotions from grief and sadness and hurting her and then also guilt. My whole world's been turned upside down. Anyway, to say the least, she's really been struggling with it because I am the person that did it to her, but also the person that she cares for. She told me the other day that it feels like she's sleeping with the abuser and she's just not sure if she can get

Savage Lovecast

Savage Lovecast Episode 938

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over it, which I understand. But I've also been like, let's move forward in this relationship and let's continue along the poly space that we've been in. But she's just not there anymore. And she just wants me to just fully commit to her and show up for her, which I could never do at the beginning of the relationship. That wasn't what we agreed to

Savage Lovecast

Savage Lovecast Episode 938

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But I understand that she's going through a tough time right now. And I know I can't fully commit to her. It's a feeling I've had in past relationships. I guess I just have commitment issues or I just don't feel like she's the one that I can fully commit to. But she's an amazing partner. I love her and she loves me and we're best friends. But it's why the poly space just made so much sense.

Savage Lovecast

Savage Lovecast Episode 938

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And we were really navigating it until this tragedy happened. And Anyways, I don't really know how to proceed or what to do or how to take it to give her the space and also hold my integrity to what I know I need as well. So I love your show. Any advice would be much appreciated.

Savage Lovecast

Savage Lovecast Episode 938

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If you're stuck in a relationship quandary, or if you're looking for sexual harmony, well, there's nothing you can't ask on the Savage Lovecast.

The Ben Shapiro Show

Ep. 2160 - The Case For Derek Chauvin | Episode 1: The Background

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The statute says that a president has the ability to repel an invasion or predatory incursion that is directed by a foreign government.

The Ben Shapiro Show

Ep. 2160 - The Case For Derek Chauvin | Episode 1: The Background

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Yes, it is documented that TDA was sent by the Venezuelan government in the proclamation. And here's an even more important point. Under the Constitution, who makes that determination? A district court judge elected by no one or the commander-in-chief of the army and navy? The president and the president alone makes a decision of what triggers that determination in the statute.

The Ben Shapiro Show

Ep. 2160 - The Case For Derek Chauvin | Episode 1: The Background

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You're not hearing me and you're not understanding me.

The Ben Shapiro Show

Ep. 2179 - Trump SMASHES Harvard

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When the tariff rate went up to the full rate of 125 on top of the 20, it was necessary to publish a more detailed list from Customs and Border Protection explaining the rates and how they're applied. There are no exemptions. Everyone pays at least the 20%. And these particular components are being put through a separate process controlled by the Department of Commerce, which is the 232.

The Ben Shapiro Show

Ep. 2179 - Trump SMASHES Harvard

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So this is a sophisticated, elegant, detailed plan to deal with Chinese economic aggression against the United States.

The Ben Shapiro Show

Ep. 2179 - Trump SMASHES Harvard

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President Trump is dead serious on this issue. He's dead serious that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. He's said that for 20 years. He's been consistent. That is clear. He's dead serious that he wants it done at the negotiating table. He wants it done peacefully. And that's why he's going straight to these talks. He set that deadline. These were productive talks yesterday.

The Ben Shapiro Show

Ep. 2179 - Trump SMASHES Harvard

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I don't want to get ahead of our skis. Steve Witkoff does a fantastic job, but it was a good step, and they're going to go at it again on Saturday. But he's also dead serious that if we can't figure this out at the negotiating table, then there are other options to include my department to ensure that Iran never has a nuclear bomb.

The Ben Shapiro Show

Ep. 2179 - Trump SMASHES Harvard

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With respect to you, he's a citizen of El Salvador. So it's very arrogant even for American media to suggest that we would even tell El Salvador how to handle their own citizens as a starting point.

The Ben Shapiro Show

Ep. 2124 - Trump WRECKS Davos!

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The initial immigration raids have already arrested and removed some of the most vicious criminals in this country, including child pornography cases, homicide cases, sexual assault, attacks on children. And this is just the very beginning in the effort to liberate this country from the migrant criminal threat.

The Ben Shapiro Show

Ep. 2124 - Trump WRECKS Davos!

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In the coming days, you're going to see a massive scale-up in enforcement activities all across the country to dismantle these criminal networks. So not only is it going to be ICE engaging these raids, but also they're going to have support from their law enforcement partners in FBI, ATF, DEA, and U.S. Marshals.

The Ben Shapiro Show

Ep. 2124 - Trump WRECKS Davos!

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We're going to leverage the full power of federal law enforcement at President Trump's command and direction to save this country from this occupation.

The Ben Shapiro Show

Ep. 2124 - Trump WRECKS Davos!

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You're also going to see, as you mentioned, the Department of Justice pursuing civil and if necessary criminal charges against anybody who shelters or harbors criminal aliens. That includes individuals in sanctuary cities who are harboring violent and dangerous criminals from federal law enforcement. The tables have turned.

The Ben Shapiro Show

Ep. 2124 - Trump WRECKS Davos!

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And now those who protect criminal aliens are going to face the legal consequences that exist in statute.

The Ben Shapiro Show

Ep. 2191 - SHAKE-UP At The White House

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One of the most significant crises that President Trump inherited upon taking office was the wave of racial discrimination, so-called diversity, equity, and inclusion policies that have taken over both public sector and private sector entities all across the United States of America.

The Charlie Kirk Show

Elon vs. The BBB

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For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show

Elon vs. The BBB

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I want to thank Charlie. He's an incredible guy. His spirit, his love of this country. He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.

The Charlie Kirk Show

Stephen Miller's Masterclass + Innovation Over Stagnation

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The president of the United States and his administration reserve all rights under the Constitution to conduct national security operations in defense of the United States. The Alien Enemies Act, which was passed into law by the founding generation of this country, men like John Adams, was written explicitly to give the president the authority to repel an alien invasion of the United States.

The Charlie Kirk Show

Stephen Miller's Masterclass + Innovation Over Stagnation

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That is not something that a district court judge has any authority whatsoever to interfere with, to enjoin, to restrict, or to restrain any way. You can read the law yourself. There's now one clause in that law that makes it subject to judicial review, let alone district court review.

The Charlie Kirk Show

Stephen Miller's Masterclass + Innovation Over Stagnation

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If you could answer my question first, please.

The Charlie Kirk Show

Stephen Miller's Masterclass + Innovation Over Stagnation

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TDA, so I'll answer yours and you'll answer mine. Under the terms of the statute, train de agua... is an alien enemy force that has come here as detailed at length in the proclamation at the direction of the Venezuelan government. The statute says that a president has the ability to repel an invasion or predatory incursion that is directed by a foreign government.

The Charlie Kirk Show

Stephen Miller's Masterclass + Innovation Over Stagnation

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Yes, it is documented that TDA was sent by the Venezuelan government in the proclamation. And here's an even more important point. Under the Constitution, who makes that determination? A district court judge elected by no one or the commander-in-chief of the army and navy? The president and the president alone makes a decision of what triggers that determination in the statute.

The Charlie Kirk Show

Stephen Miller's Masterclass + Innovation Over Stagnation

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You're not hearing me, and you're not understanding me.

The Charlie Kirk Show

Stephen Miller's Masterclass + Innovation Over Stagnation

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Read the statute, Alien Enemies Act, 1798. It says if a predatory incursion is perpetrated by a foreign government. So it lists three qualifying actions. It could be an act of war.

The Charlie Kirk Show

Stephen Miller's Masterclass + Innovation Over Stagnation

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That's what it says. Wrong. Look up the statute. It's on my account on social media. That's actually where we found it. Yes. It says, or a predatory incursion or an invasion. The statute delineates three criteria for triggering the Alien Enemies Act. One is an act of war, which, by the way, an invasion is an act of war, but put that aside. One is an invasion, which this is.

The Charlie Kirk Show

Stephen Miller's Masterclass + Innovation Over Stagnation

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One is a predatory incursion, which this is. So it actually meets all three statutory criteria.

The Charlie Kirk Show

Stephen Miller's Masterclass + Innovation Over Stagnation

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Under a proper reading of the Constitution. district court judges provide relief to individual plaintiffs seeking relief district court judges do not have the authority as a general matter to enjoin the functioning of the executive branch but their authority is at its lowest point when the president is exercising his powers as commander-in-chief.

The Charlie Kirk Show

Stephen Miller's Masterclass + Innovation Over Stagnation

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And I asked you a question and you never answered it. Can a judge enjoin troop movements overseas? Can a district court judge enjoin troop movements overseas?

The Charlie Kirk Show

Stephen Miller's Masterclass + Innovation Over Stagnation

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This is a separate question, Stephen. Okay, we're not talking about other troops overseas.

The Charlie Kirk Show

Stephen Miller's Masterclass + Innovation Over Stagnation

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The president issued a proclamation delineating in detail how the Venezuelan regime sent this gang, this terrorist organization to our shores.

The Charlie Kirk Show

Did Elon Expose the Biggest Fraud in History?

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Charlie, what you've done is incredible here. Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.

The Charlie Kirk Show

Did Elon Expose the Biggest Fraud in History?

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As we know, there's a massive amount of fraud in this country. You have, for example, foreign fraud rings. These are foreign nationals who come into the United States. They use fake Social Security numbers. They use fake identities to steal billions in taxpayer benefits. There's no way to know until Doge gains full access exactly how much money we're talking about.

The Charlie Kirk Show

Did Elon Expose the Biggest Fraud in History?

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But over a 10-year normal budget window, you could be talking about saving over a trillion dollars by clamping down on massive fraud in our tax and entitlement systems, including, again, those carried out by organized fraud and theft rings.

The Charlie Kirk Show

Why America Must Not Bomb Iran

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Right now, countries from all over the world, because of President Trump's leadership, are desperate and dying to make trade deals with the United States. We're going to evaluate each of those deals, and President Trump is personally involved in making sure that these negotiations serve only one interest, which is the interest of the United States of America.

The Charlie Kirk Show

Why America Must Not Bomb Iran

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Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.

The Charlie Kirk Show

The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz

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Matt, Charlie, Tim Miller from Chicago. First one for Matt, second one is really more Charlie, I think. What is it, these lobbyists, what are they doing on a daily basis, like a day in the life of a lobbyist specifically, you know, in a brief way? And then Charlie, can we replace them with the people?

The Charlie Kirk Show

The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz

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Like just get, let's just grow this thing to the point where we could just get the people over there in their faces all the time.

The Charlie Kirk Show

The Global Supply Chain and You

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Great to be with you, Charlie. And one of the reasons I wanted to come on your show is that before we get into all the good stuff in the tax bill, I want to alert you and your listeners to something I'm hearing that I think is very dangerous.

The Charlie Kirk Show

The Global Supply Chain and You

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So we need to get all conservatives to shout out against this, which is that there are some in Congress, some Republicans who want to raise the top income tax rate. That would be a total disaster for those of us who are old enough to remember when George H.W. Bush raised taxes. And remember, read my lips. It split the party. It did great damage to the economy.

The Charlie Kirk Show

The Global Supply Chain and You

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And it led to the election of Bill Clinton. So Republicans would be making a major mistake if they raised the top rate. In fact, every time in history, by the way, my buddy Art Laffer has a Great book out on this called Taxes Have Consequences.

The Charlie Kirk Show

The Global Supply Chain and You

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Every time we've raised tax rates, the economy has gone into recession, the rich have actually paid less taxes, and the burden has shifted to lower income people. This is not a way to help America. And I just wanted to get that out there. So I want your listeners to call your congressman or senator and say, do not raise tax rates on anyone. That's not what we do as Republicans.

The Charlie Kirk Show

The Global Supply Chain and You

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So let's, so that, that I agree with that.

The Charlie Kirk Show

The Global Supply Chain and You

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Yeah. That's a great question. And by the way, Elon Musk has a better answer to that than I am. You know, you may have seen him a month or two. He was asked that same question, Charlie. He said, look, who do you trust to invest in the American economy better? Someone like me who is great at me that he was talking about himself.

The Charlie Kirk Show

The Global Supply Chain and You

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who's created tens and tens of thousands of jobs and some of the greatest businesses ever, were politicians. So the people who are the job creators and the wealth producers in our economy are people at the top. They've gotten to the top because they're smart. By the way, over half of all small businesses pay their taxes on the individual income tax rate.

The Charlie Kirk Show

The Global Supply Chain and You

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Do we want to be taxing the small businessmen and women in the country? So it doesn't work. And the other thing about the rich, and this is also in Laffer's book, is that they're smart. They have tax lawyers. They have tax accountants. They're not going to pay these entire rates. They're going to find ways around it. And what happens is the tax burden really gets smashed onto the poor.

The Charlie Kirk Show

The Global Supply Chain and You

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So we don't want to do it. Reagan cut tax rates to the lowest rates we'd had in 75 years. We had the biggest boom ever. Trump cut tax rates. We had a big boom. Every time it works. Any student of history knows that lowering tax rates is a great thing. And the last two presidents who were Republicans who raised tax rates, Herbert Hoover and And George H.W.

The Charlie Kirk Show

The Global Supply Chain and You

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Bush, it didn't turn out too well for them.

The Charlie Kirk Show

The Global Supply Chain and You

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Oh, no. I mean, you raise a great point, Charlie. I should have said this at the outset. How do high income tax rates affect the rich? Just look across the states. How many times have you and I talked about this? Just a new report came out last week showing, again, that California, Illinois, New York and New Jersey are losing population at the fastest rate of any state in the country.

The Charlie Kirk Show

The Global Supply Chain and You

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Those tend to be the highest. You know, California and New York have 13 percent income taxes. Now, you know that. Charlie, where do you live, by the way? Are you in Florida?

The Charlie Kirk Show

The Global Supply Chain and You

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That was the point I was going to make. Yeah, that was the point I was going to make is that you have states like Tennessee, Texas, Florida that have no income tax and they're booming. Arizona's got a pretty good low income tax rate. That's working for them. So this is a very positive thing for the low tax states.

The Charlie Kirk Show

The Global Supply Chain and You

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And, you know, California could lose three new congressional seats if they stay on the course they're on.

The Charlie Kirk Show

The Global Supply Chain and You

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Well, I'm glad you asked about that. Literally, just this morning, I finished writing my weekly column on that very issue. So you must be clairvoyant. But, you know, look, I'm not going to get into the weeds on this. This is the private equity industry, which is what pumps money into small businesses, family businesses to keep them alive or to allow them to grow into bigger businesses.

The Charlie Kirk Show

The Global Supply Chain and You

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We are almost unique as a country in having this incredible private equity industry that injects capital into smaller and medium-sized companies so they can grow. And it works. It's an amazing thing. It's created like 20 million jobs worldwide. through this private investment capital. And we don't want to tax that more. Look, it's very simple. If you tax something, you get less of it, right?

The Charlie Kirk Show

The Global Supply Chain and You

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That's what Reagan taught us. Why would we want less equity going into small and growing businesses? It doesn't make any sense.

The Charlie Kirk Show

The Global Supply Chain and You

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I don't buy that at all.

The Charlie Kirk Show

The Global Supply Chain and You

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Okay, so basically we have two tax rates. We have capital gains tax, which is too high. We tax that at 24%. And then the personal income tax, which is taxed right now at 37%. So what these people want to do, and this is basically people like Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren and some Republicans. They said, well, we should tax...

The Charlie Kirk Show

The Global Supply Chain and You

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These people at the personal income tax rate, not the capital gains rate, which is, to me, I don't even get the logic of that. When a private equity person puts money into a company, that's at-risk capital. They're at risk of losing it all. That's why we have a lower capital gains rate, because it's a riskier investment.

The Charlie Kirk Show

The Global Supply Chain and You

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So First of all, that's a really important question because I think a lot – we did a poll that half of Americans are not aware of this because a lot of Americans just don't pay a lot of close attention to this.

The Charlie Kirk Show

The Global Supply Chain and You

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If they don't get this job done, Charlie, we're talking about the biggest tax increase in American history on January 1st because all of the Trump tax cuts would go away, virtually all of them. And so the average family in America – I'm not talking about Warren Buffett and Bill Gates and Elon Musk. I'm talking about the average family would face a $3,000 increase in their taxes next year.

The Charlie Kirk Show

The Global Supply Chain and You

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We can't do that. We've already got middle-class families financially stressed out from Bidenomics. Can you imagine if the average family had to pay $3,000 more taxes? And then, of course, the corporate rate would go up to 21% to one of the highest in the world, 35%. That's one of the great you know, achievements of the Trump tax cut. So we don't want to have that happen.

The Charlie Kirk Show

The Global Supply Chain and You

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We've got to get this done. We've got it done quickly. I'm telling Congress, get it done. Get a bill on the desk of Donald Trump by Memorial Day. We've seen a choppy stock market. Investors are fidgety. I think one thing that would really help restore investor confidence is for Republicans to sign, seal and deliver this in the next month.

The Charlie Kirk Show

The Global Supply Chain and You

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It's amazing that we even have to talk about this because it's so obvious. If a business invests in a factory or invests in the kind of machinery you're talking about, I mean, a welder can't weld if he doesn't have the equipment to weld with, right? I mean, they don't have a job if they don't have the equipment. If there aren't factories, there aren't jobs. So we absolutely –

The Charlie Kirk Show

The Global Supply Chain and You

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Want to allow companies not to just allow them to encourage them to invest in in factories and machinery and computers. Those are what make American workers more productive. It's the reason, you know, it's our capital investment and our know how that makes the American workers the most highly paid workers in the world. So we ought to say if a company builds a factory, you can write it off.

The Charlie Kirk Show

The Global Supply Chain and You

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If you have heavy equipment like you're talking about, if you're buying a – I talked to Fred Smith who owns Federal Express, one of the great companies in America. And he's saying once they allowed that deduction, they bought four jumbo jets so that they could transport packages around the world. Think of all the jobs that created for the Boeing workers.

The Charlie Kirk Show

The Global Supply Chain and You

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I'm going to put the odds at 85 percent. I think it's going to get done the sooner the better. And I think that it's going to be a very positive development for the stock market and for workers. And no tax increases in that bill. No tax increases.

The Charlie Kirk Show

The Global Supply Chain and You

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For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show

Donald Trump's DOGE Defunding Rampage

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Charlie, what you've done is incredible here. Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.

The Charlie Kirk Show

Donald Trump's DOGE Defunding Rampage

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What we continue to see here is the idea that rogue bureaucrats who are elected by no one, who answer to no one, who have lifetime tenure jobs, who we would be told can never be fired, which of course is not true,

The Charlie Kirk Show

Donald Trump's DOGE Defunding Rampage

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The power has been cemented and accumulated for years, whether it be with the Treasury bureaucrats or the FBI bureaucrats or the CIA bureaucrats or the USAID bureaucrats, with this unelected shadow force that is running our government and running our country. Donald Trump is engaging in the most important restoration of democracy.

The Charlie Kirk Show

Donald Trump's DOGE Defunding Rampage

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in over a century by saying that we are going to restore power to the people through their elected president and his appointed officers. That is the only way we can have true democracy in this country. This is exactly right.

The Charlie Kirk Show

The Kilmar Abrego Garcia Truth

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Two immigration courts found that he was a member of MS-13. When President Trump declared MS-13 to be a foreign terrorist organization. That meant that he was no longer eligible under federal law, that he was no longer eligible for any form of immigration relief in the United States.

The Charlie Kirk Show

The Kilmar Abrego Garcia Truth

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So we had a deportation order that was valid, which meant that under our law, he's not even allowed to be present in the United States. and had to be returned because of the foreign terrorist designation.

The Charlie Kirk Show

The Kilmar Abrego Garcia Truth

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And the Supreme Court said the district court order was unlawful and its main components were reversed 9-0 unanimously, stating clearly that neither Secretary of State nor the President could be compelled by anybody to forcibly retrieve a citizen of El Salvador from El Salvador, who again is a member of MS-13,

The Charlie Kirk Show

What the Trump's Tariffs Mean for You, Today and For The Future

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Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.

The Charlie Kirk Show

What the Trump's Tariffs Mean for You, Today and For The Future

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All of that manufacturing, all of that industry was ripped apart by our elites, shipped to foreign countries, and then they sent us the bill. They said, you have to protect Korea. You have to protect Europe. You have to protect Canada. You have to protect Japan. We won't take your cars. We won't take your agriculture.

The Charlie Kirk Show

What the Trump's Tariffs Mean for You, Today and For The Future

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will take away your steel industry, your aluminum industry, your copper industry, your electronics industry. So what President Trump is saying is these are the injustices you have to remedy. This isn't just about moving around some lines on a ledger.

The Charlie Kirk Show

What the Trump's Tariffs Mean for You, Today and For The Future

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This is about remedying the systemic injustice that says the streets of America are filled with European cars and Japanese cars, but the streets of Europe and Japan have no American cars. This is about saying that the American steel industry, which once built and sustained the modern world...

The Daily

Trapped Abroad: The Man at the Center of a Constitutional Standoff

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Would you answer that question also, please? Yes, gladly. So as Pam mentioned—

The Daily

Trapped Abroad: The Man at the Center of a Constitutional Standoff

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Yes, there's a 9-0 in our favor against the district court ruling, saying that no district court has the power to compel the foreign policy function of the United States.

The Daily

Stephen Miller’s Return to Power

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And at this moment of abandonment... Joining me now, former senior advisor to Trump, Stephen Miller.

The Daily

Stephen Miller’s Return to Power

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Well, first of all, the president did a stellar job, and all credit goes to him. He went on television praising Trump, defending Trump. The treatment Donald Trump has gotten, one false allegation after another, one investigation after another. He made very clear that he wasn't going anywhere.

The Daily

Stephen Miller’s Return to Power

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We bequeathed the most secure border in U.S. history.

The Daily

Stephen Miller’s Return to Power

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I will say and I will do things that no one else in their right mind would say or do.

The Daily

Stephen Miller’s Return to Power

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Now for the top story tonight. Exactly what's going on at Duke University. Joining us now from Raleigh, Stephen Miller, columnist for the Duke Chronicle, a student newspaper. And Stephen Miller becomes the face of the defense. You, a student, pretty much the only person who will talk to us.

The Daily

Stephen Miller’s Return to Power

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What's going on? Well, you have a situation here where, like a lot of college campuses, you have this segment of professors that's very powerful and very, very far to the left. Suddenly he's on TV.

The Dan Bongino Show

What Did Zelensky Know? When Did He Know It? (Ep. 2426)

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The interest payments on the debt exceed the national defense budget. The American people are exhausted and tired of watching their tax dollars be corruptly spent, abused, wasted, and in every sense robbed and stolen from them. This president... for the first time in history, is committed to restoring accountability at every level of the federal government.

The Dan Bongino Show

What Did Zelensky Know? When Did He Know It? (Ep. 2426)

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You may assert there's no waste in the Pentagon. You may assert there's no waste in Treasury.

The Dan Bongino Show

What Did Zelensky Know? When Did He Know It? (Ep. 2426)

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Stephen, I don't think anyone... Then why are you not celebrating these cuts? If you agree there is waste, if you agree there is abuse, if you agree there is corruption, why are you not celebrating the cuts, the reforms that are being instituted every day that no action is taken? The entire salaries of American workers that are taxed disappear forever.

The Dan Bongino Show

What Did Zelensky Know? When Did He Know It? (Ep. 2426)

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You are clearly trying to debate me, and I will be as excited as I want to be about the fact that we are saving Americans billions of dollars, that we are ending the theft and waste and grift and corruption, that we are stopping American taxpayer dollars from subsidizing a rogue federal bureaucracy that has been relentlessly weaponized against the American people.

The Dan Bongino Show

What Did Zelensky Know? When Did He Know It? (Ep. 2426)

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The American people care about this issue. And the American public overwhelmingly supports what President Trump is doing.

The Dan Bongino Show

What Did Zelensky Know? When Did He Know It? (Ep. 2426)

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No. But also, keep in mind, you keep talking about Doge employees.

The Dan Bongino Show

What Did Zelensky Know? When Did He Know It? (Ep. 2426)

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They will not be able to access anything that any other appropriately authorized federal employee could access. When you keep talking about quote Doge employees, you're just talking about federal workers. You're just literally talking about federal workers.

The Dan Bongino Show

What Did Zelensky Know? When Did He Know It? (Ep. 2426)

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The president of the United States.

The Dan Bongino Show

What Did Zelensky Know? When Did He Know It? (Ep. 2426)

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No. Doge is what was formerly U.S. Digital Services. It's an agency of the federal government that reports into the executive office of the president, which reports to the president of the United States.

The Dan Bongino Show

What Did Zelensky Know? When Did He Know It? (Ep. 2426)

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The way that Article 2 works is the president wins an election, and then he appoints staff, including myself, including Mike Waltz, including Susie Wiles, including Elon Musk, and those staff report to him.

The Dan Bongino Show

'Big Tish James' Is About To FIND OUT! | Episode 23

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Senator Van Hollen seems to be under the very confused impression that this MS-13 terrorist is his constituent. He is President Bukele's constituent. He is President Bukele's citizen. He is President Bukele's resident. He is not a Maryland man. He is not a Maryland anything. He is an illegal alien from El Salvador with a deportation order from the United States. Yep.

The Dan Bongino Show

'Big Tish James' Is About To FIND OUT! | Episode 23

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Legally even allowed to be in our country. Under the due process that these Democrats so venerate for illegal invaders, it is legally impermissible for him to have one more minute in this country. So we honored the law and obeyed the law by getting him out of this country. And if the entire Democrat Party was to work itself into a state of emotional hysteria

The Dan Bongino Show

'Big Tish James' Is About To FIND OUT! | Episode 23

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to demand the return of illegal gang members and terrorists to our shores, then that 21% will soon be 15, and then it'll be 11, and then all they'll have left is the support of actual confirmed MS-13 members, and that will be the entire base of the Democrat Party.

The Dan Bongino Show

This Is What Winning In Politics Looks Like (Ep. 2425)

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We are talking about performing... a basic anti-fraud review to ensure that people are not engaging in large-scale theft of federal taxpayer benefits. I mean, for example, we pay billions of dollars a year in child tax credit payments to illegal aliens. Billions with a B. So these are systematic, programmatic reforms that we're talking about here.

The Dan Bongino Show

This Is What Winning In Politics Looks Like (Ep. 2425)

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As we know, there's a massive amount of fraud in this country. You have, for example, foreign fraud rings. These are foreign nationals who come into the United States, they use fake social security numbers, they use fake identities to steal billions in taxpayer benefits. There's no way to know until Doge gains full access exactly how much money we're talking about.

The Dan Bongino Show

This Is What Winning In Politics Looks Like (Ep. 2425)

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But over a 10-year normal budget window, you could be talking about saving over a trillion dollars by clamping down on massive fraud in our tax and entitlement systems, including, again, those carried out by organized fraud and theft rings. A very important point in all this is to understand that Doge are subordinate staffers of the federal government.

The Dan Bongino Show

This Is What Winning In Politics Looks Like (Ep. 2425)

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They are political appointees, just like me, just like everyone else in the White House, that serve and answer to the president. So we're not talking about an outside private entity. We're talking about the existing federal staff of the federal government performing their statutory and constitutional duty.

The Dan Bongino Show

President Trump The Businessman Strikes Again | Episode 22

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There's an illegal alien from El Salvador. So with respect to you, he's a citizen of El Salvador. So it's very arrogant even for American media to suggest that we would even tell El Salvador how to handle their own citizens as a starting point. as two immigration courts found that he was a member of MS-13.

The Dan Bongino Show

President Trump The Businessman Strikes Again | Episode 22

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When President Trump declared MS-13 to be a foreign terrorist organization, that meant that he was no longer eligible under federal law, which I'm sure you know, you're very familiar with the INA, that he was no longer eligible for any form of immigration relief in the United States. So he had a deportation order.

The Dan Bongino Show

President Trump The Businessman Strikes Again | Episode 22

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that was valid, which meant that under our law, he's not even allowed to be present in the United States and had to be returned because of the foreign terrorist designation. This issue was then, by a district court judge, completely inverted. And a district court judge tried to tell the administration that they had to kidnap a citizen of El Salvador and fly him back here.

The Dan Bongino Show

President Trump The Businessman Strikes Again | Episode 22

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That issue was raised to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court said the district court order was unlawful, and its main components were reversed 9-0 unanimously, stating clearly that neither Secretary of State nor the President could be compelled by anybody to forcibly retrieve a citizen of El Salvador from El Salvador, who again is a member of MS-13.

The Dan Bongino Show

President Trump The Businessman Strikes Again | Episode 22

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which is, I'm sure you understand, rapes little girls, murders women, murders children, is engaged in the most barbaric activities in the world. And I can promise you, if he was your neighbor, you would move right away.

The Dan Bongino Show

President Trump The Businessman Strikes Again | Episode 22

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I just wish we lived in a country where the media gave to one tenth a damn as much about Americans who were murdered and brutalized and savagely killed, beaten to death as they did about whether illegal aliens that we all agree are illegal aliens should get a million days in court and a million trials and a million this and a million that.

The Dan Bongino Show

President Trump The Businessman Strikes Again | Episode 22

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There's 15 million illegal aliens that violently enter the country. If every one of them got the trial that you're asking for, it would take us centuries to remove them. centuries. We've been talking about this in three, 400 years. Your great, great, great grandchildren will be the ones representing them in court. That's how long it would take.

The Dan Bongino Show

President Trump The Businessman Strikes Again | Episode 22

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Illegal aliens who come to our country have to be removed and they have to remove quickly. That is an essential component of having something that we like to call a country.

The Dan Bongino Show

The Bongino Brief: The Only People Who Love Crime Are Criminals!!!

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We are talking about performing... a basic anti-fraud review to ensure that people are not engaging in large-scale theft of federal taxpayer benefits. I mean, for example, we pay billions of dollars a year in child tax credit payments to illegal aliens. Billions, with a B. So these are systematic, programmatic reforms that we're talking about here.

The Dan Bongino Show

Did The Government Accidentally Tell The Truth About The Drones? (Ep. 2388)

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I think I speak for many students when I say that we're very, very concerned that two innocent people may have possibly just had their lives ruined.

The Dan Bongino Show

Another Assassination Attempt? | Episode 21

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You were targeting specific items from day one. Walk us through these exemptions, Stephen, and what they mean.

The Dan Bongino Show

Another Assassination Attempt? | Episode 21

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Yes, this is just another great example of how President Trump had a detailed plan from the beginning that's being executed exactly as directed. And unfortunately, some in the media are deliberately misportraying that plan.

The Dan Bongino Show

Another Assassination Attempt? | Episode 21

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The original 20% AIPA, that's the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, for China poisoning our citizens with fentanyl, that 20% rate continues to be applied to all imports from China. When the president issued his reciprocal tariffs,

The Dan Bongino Show

Another Assassination Attempt? | Episode 21

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Our government at the time specifically said that ships and semiconductors, which are critical components of our national security, were going to be dealt with through a separate commerce authority known as a 232.

The Dan Bongino Show

Another Assassination Attempt? | Episode 21

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Our government at the time specifically said that chips and semiconductors, which are critical components of our national security, were going to be dealt with through a separate commerce authority known as the 232. That was always the plan because those components are so essential to our national security.

The Dan Bongino Show

Another Assassination Attempt? | Episode 21

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We need to have a separate process for dealing with how to reshore those essential industries. When the tariff rate went up to the full rate of 125 on top of the 20, it was necessary to publish a more detailed list from Customs and Border Protection explaining the rates and how they're applied. There are no exemptions. Everyone pays at least the 20%.

The Dan Bongino Show

Another Assassination Attempt? | Episode 21

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And these particular components are being put through a separate process controlled by the Department of Commerce, which is the 232. So this is a sophisticated, elegant, detailed plan to deal with Chinese economic aggression against the United States.

The Dan Bongino Show

The Golden Age Of Republican Politics (Ep. 2428)

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A president is elected by the whole American people. He's the only official in the entire government that is elected by the entire nation, right? Judges are appointed, members of Congress are elected at the district or state level, which is one man, and the Constitution, Article 2, has a clause known as the Vesting Clause, and it says the executive power shall be vested in a president, singular.

The Dan Bongino Show

The Golden Age Of Republican Politics (Ep. 2428)

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The whole will of democracy is imbued into the elected president. That president then appoints staff to then impose that democratic will onto the government.

The Dan Bongino Show

The Golden Age Of Republican Politics (Ep. 2428)

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The threat to democracy, indeed the existential threat to democracy, is the unelected bureaucracy of lifetime tenured civil servants who believe they answer to no one, who believe they can do whatever they want without consequence, who believe they can set their own agenda no matter what Americans vote for. So Americans vote for radical FBI reform, And FBI agents say they don't want to change.

The Dan Bongino Show

The Golden Age Of Republican Politics (Ep. 2428)

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Or Americans vote for radical reform in our energy policies, but EPA bureaucrats say they don't want to change. Or Americans vote to end DEI, racist DEI policies. And lawyers in the Department of Justice say they don't want to change. What President Trump is doing is he is removing federal bureaucrats who are defying democracy by failing to implement his lawful orders

The Dan Bongino Show

The Golden Age Of Republican Politics (Ep. 2428)

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which are the will of the whole American people.

The Ezra Klein Show

The Emergency Is Here

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That is the president of El Salvador. Your questions about it per the court can only be directed to him.

The Ezra Klein Show

The Emergency Is Here

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But President Trump, his policy is foreign terrorists that are here illegally get expelled from the country, which, by the way, is a 90-10 issue.

The Matt Walsh Show

Ep. 1527 - Why The Plane Crash Was Entirely Foreseeable And Preventable

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It is a betrayal of the American people to say that you are going to prioritize the hiring of people with severe intellectual defects to serve at the Federal Aviation Administration. the entity responsible for ensuring that every single passenger over American airspace safely takes off, safely flies, and safely lands.

The Matt Walsh Show

Ep. 1527 - Why The Plane Crash Was Entirely Foreseeable And Preventable

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And President Trump's made clear that he is not only—and he issued another order today— he's not only installing the highest standards possible, but the order President Trump issued today— tells the Secretary of Transportation to review every hiring decision at the FAA over the last four years.

The Matt Walsh Show

Ep. 1527 - Why The Plane Crash Was Entirely Foreseeable And Preventable

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And where someone was not hired based on merit, qualification, or competence, then that person needs to be replaced.

The Megyn Kelly Show

WH Backs Waltz, DOJ Says Khalil Lied on Green Card App, Judge Boasberg Deep Dive: AM Update 3/26

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These radical, rogue judges that are usurping the powers of the presidency and laying waste to our entire constitutional system.

The Megyn Kelly Show

GOP Keeps House Seats, Tariff Day Announcement, Feds Seek Death Penalty for Luigi: AM Update 4/2

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Number one, you can't steal our jobs. Number two, if you want to get preferential treatment, you have to put your factory inside the United States. Your auto plant, your manufacturing facility, your AI plant, your chip plant, whatever it is. You want to sell it to Americans on a preferential basis, then you have to make it here.

The Megyn Kelly Show

GOP Keeps House Seats, Tariff Day Announcement, Feds Seek Death Penalty for Luigi: AM Update 4/2

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And if you do, you'll get low taxes, low regulations, and cheap energy. But if you sell it to us from overseas, then yes, you will pay a tariff.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Vulgar Met Gala, Jen Psaki's Cover-up Lies, and Trump vs. Harvard, with Stu Burguiere and Kevin Roberts | Ep. 1065

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Project 2025, a far-right manifesto that has hundreds of pages of extremist policies to destroy the federal government as we know it. I'm here to tell you what it is. It's a far-right plan for destroying democracy.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Vulgar Met Gala, Jen Psaki's Cover-up Lies, and Trump vs. Harvard, with Stu Burguiere and Kevin Roberts | Ep. 1065

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Democrats, this is some real talk for you. If you're not spending every second of every day all next week taking a lead pipe and a two-by-four to Donald Trump and Project 2025, get out of politics.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Get To Know The Incoming Trump Cabinet: Tulsi Gabbard, Marco Rubio, Kristi Noem, and More

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People ask me this question a lot, and I've reflected on it a great deal because people want to know, how is it possible that an entire administration and all the members of Congress who support that administration and all of the outside groups that support that administration could be so willingly complicit in a policy that's yielding so much human misery.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Get To Know The Incoming Trump Cabinet: Tulsi Gabbard, Marco Rubio, Kristi Noem, and More

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You have human trafficking, sex trafficking, and labor trafficking, as even the New York Times documented, particularly with minors on a scale that has never been witnessed before. Hundreds of thousands of minors have been trafficked into the country. You have the fentanyl deaths setting records year after year, families being separated in a permanent and irrevocable way.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Get To Know The Incoming Trump Cabinet: Tulsi Gabbard, Marco Rubio, Kristi Noem, and More

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The only way they can visit loved ones is at a cemetery, at a graveyard. And then you have gangs that have operational control of our territory that are abusing people and murdering people on both sides of the border. the destruction of the labor market for the working class and the working poor, and the decimation of our healthcare system and our education system, to name but a few social ills.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Get To Know The Incoming Trump Cabinet: Tulsi Gabbard, Marco Rubio, Kristi Noem, and More

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And I think the answer is exactly what you said, and it's very straightforward. California was once the most conservative free state in the country. If you wanted to live the American dream, you wanted to get your family in the station wagon, drive across country, and just strike out and see if you could start a small business or get a good job or just –

The Megyn Kelly Show

Get To Know The Incoming Trump Cabinet: Tulsi Gabbard, Marco Rubio, Kristi Noem, and More

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earn a good living, you went to California. That's what you did. This was the state that not only elected Reagan governor, but also voted in the presidential elections for conservatives, for national office, for almost the entirety of the 20th century. up until 1992. And that was the tipping point. And from 1992 until today, only leftists for the highest office in the land.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Get To Know The Incoming Trump Cabinet: Tulsi Gabbard, Marco Rubio, Kristi Noem, and More

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And the reason for that is because mass migration turns politics leftward. And there's a lot of reasons why. I mean, one is that people who come from countries that have no history of limited government and no experience of limited government don't find that to be intuitive. So that's one reason.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Get To Know The Incoming Trump Cabinet: Tulsi Gabbard, Marco Rubio, Kristi Noem, and More

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Just the actual voters themselves, they would say, well, why wouldn't I vote for higher taxes on someone who's not me to give services to somebody who is me? That's intuitive. It's very intuitive to say, there's people who are richer than me, so I'll tax them more, and then you're going to give me more money. That's intuitive.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Get To Know The Incoming Trump Cabinet: Tulsi Gabbard, Marco Rubio, Kristi Noem, and More

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It's not intuitive what we have or have had in America to say, if more people who aren't you also have freedom, then they will also be productive, and they will also create more jobs, and then those jobs will pay higher wages. But there's a secondary effect that pulls politics left, which is the destruction of the middle class.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Get To Know The Incoming Trump Cabinet: Tulsi Gabbard, Marco Rubio, Kristi Noem, and More

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When you have good, high-paying, middle-class jobs, that forms the center of a conservative society, a strong family and a strong community where people are able to get a job that can pay a living wage, that can support a family, where you can have, if you want to, a one-parent working home, if you want to, a two-parent working home, but either way, you're financially secure.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Get To Know The Incoming Trump Cabinet: Tulsi Gabbard, Marco Rubio, Kristi Noem, and More

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and you have a good education system and a good healthcare system. When you completely destabilize the labor market and the social safety net, people then begin demanding more and more and more government services because the jobs aren't paying enough. So you need more earned income tax credit and you need to have more food stamps.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Get To Know The Incoming Trump Cabinet: Tulsi Gabbard, Marco Rubio, Kristi Noem, and More

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You need to have more public housing and the education system can't keep up. So you gotta keep funneling more and more money into that. And nobody has health insurance. I mean, how many years have we heard, Megan? There's 30 million people that have health insurance. We need socialized medicine. We need socialized medicine.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Get To Know The Incoming Trump Cabinet: Tulsi Gabbard, Marco Rubio, Kristi Noem, and More

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The vast majority of people in this country who do not have health insurance are not citizens of this country. There are many American citizens that have health insurance, to be clear, and they should get it, and we should make sure they do have it. But the vast majority of people who do not have insurance of any kind, in any way, any shape, or form whatsoever... are not US citizens.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Get To Know The Incoming Trump Cabinet: Tulsi Gabbard, Marco Rubio, Kristi Noem, and More

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But again, that's used by political parties to demand free government services. So an open border both imports the voters who will vote for one party and one ideology, but it also changes the political landscape of an entire community.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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So you end up with the Manhattanization of America, where you have these very large cities where nothing works, nothing is functional, nothing is safe, nothing is efficient. And the solution is always going to be you have to tax more and spend more.

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Right. So this version of events requires us to believe that he canceled every single policy that was working incredibly well and then put in place a whole series of policies designed to make it as easy to enter the country illegally as possible. But it was really just secretly a head fake to come up with some new and different and better plan.

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The people who are driving immigration policy, I talked to Icelanders, I talked to border agents, and obviously I know the names of the higher-ups at DHS and, of course, in the White House too. Ideologically, the people who are setting policy believe that borders are racist, that borders are wrong, and that we don't have any right morally – or otherwise to deny people entry into this country.

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The way they look at it, to be very blunt, Megan, is they see, and to use sort of the language of the day, they see America as a racist colonial superpower. So this is their worldview. They think that we stole wealth and riches and plundered and pillaged from foreign countries, from indigenous people, from the developing world.

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And at a moral level, they see this as the ultimate act of wealth redistribution. So, you know, we talk about reparations, Megan. They see an open border as reparations for the developing world that they believe, not just America, but they believe the West, you know, from...

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Going back to the times of the British Parliament back when we were colonies, but they see that the West stole and plundered this wealth, and they think this is a form of redistribution to those who they believe are rightfully entitled to the riches of this nation. For the true believers, Biden doesn't have much going on upstairs.

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He's a party man, and so he is doing what his party is telling him to do, and he is doing it completely. But for the ideologues that are driving this policy, that is absolutely what they believe. That is why they are constitutionally incapable of saying the sentence,

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illegal immigration is wrong if you come into the country illegally you have no path to release you will be detained you would you will be deported you will be going home and you if possible will be sent to jail and if you try again you'll be sent to jail for more than a year one thing that we did in the trump administration is we aggressively prosecuted so we didn't just deport people but we aggressively prosecuted immigration crime not just immigration fraud

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But 1325, USC 1325, which is the misdemeanor illegal entry, and then 1326, which is the felony illegal entry. And we aggressively prosecuted illegal border crossing to send the message that what you're doing is criminal. This is criminal.

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And if American citizens go to jail for the minors violation, you know, you get one little thing wrong in your tax forms or you make one little mistake interacting with a regulatory agency. Or you make one little mistake in Washington in terms of what box you check here or there. And, you know, you spend years and years in jail.

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But if you come across the country illegally in plain violation of federal law, nothing happens to you. That's wrong. We said that's wrong. So we prosecuted people for doing that. And Biden has completely gutted all of our prosecution initiatives. I don't remember the numbers.

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This is not true. It's just not what's happening. What is the article that you're reading from, just so I know?

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The thing about immigration reporting in this country is that so few people who do immigration stories actually understand immigration law that they fall for literally any spin the administration pushes to them. So I've been seeing for two years, they always announced, oh, there's a new crackdown in the middle of the Haiti migrant camps.

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They were saying the administration has some tough new crackdown plan. They push out this fake story every few months when the PR gets bad and I hope everybody moves on to the next thing. If you really want to break it down, The regulation in question says that you have a rebuttable keyword, rebuttable presumption of ineligibility if you didn't apply in a previous country.

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The word rebuttable meaning that you can overcome it by asking, again, do you see an immigration judge? So in immigration law, Megan, There's all kinds of things that could sound tough on paper that dissolve upon contact with reality because of how enforcement actually works.

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If you allow an alien to seek a lengthy process when they enter this country, then there is no way for border patrol to remove that person. If an alien shows up from Peru and tells a story and says, I couldn't apply in Mexico because the cartels threatened me. So I need to see a caseworker, and then I need to see an immigration judge.

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Megan, that person is not going anywhere but to the city of their choice, St. Louis, Omaha, Nebraska, New York City. After two years of this, you think immigration reporters will stop falling for the same crap? The illegal aliens who want to get in will get in. It's happening right now. It's happening every day.

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They show up at the border in the morning and they're on to the next city in the evening. You see them on TV going on to the destination of their choice. Then they text their friends and their family with their new phones and say, hey, I just got in.

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The other point, though, about this is that in reality, the way it works on the ground is that when you have more aliens in your facility than there are caseworkers to interview them, the difference between those two populations gets released.

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You're not hearing me and you're not understanding me. Read the statute. Alien Enemies Act 1798. It says if a predatory incursion is perpetrated by a foreign government. So it lists the three qualifying actions. It could be an act of war.

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That's what it says. Wrong. Look up the statute. It's on my account on social media. That's actually where we found it. It says, or a predatory incursion or an invasion. The statute delineates three criteria for triggering the Alien Enemies Act.

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A district court judge can no more enjoin the expulsion of foreign terrorists to foreign soil that he can direct the movement of Air Force One, that he can direct the movement of an aircraft carrier.

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And if we got into a place in this country where district court judges could direct which general on the battlefield is going to be in charge of making which decisions, could direct what intelligence we could share. If a district court judge can be involved in the conduct of our foreign policy, under no definition do we have a democracy in this country.

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Trump vs. Judge on Alien Enemies Act Escalates, Biden Autopen Questions, Putin Call: AM Update 3/18

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You say to those who claim you're using a 200-year-old law to circumvent due process. An old law?

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If a district court judge can be involved in the conduct of a foreign policy, under no definition do we have a democracy in this country.

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It's very arrogant even for American media to suggest that we would even tell El Salvador how to handle their own citizens as a starting point. As two immigration courts found that he was a member of MS-13, when President Trump declared MS-13 to be a foreign terrorist organization,

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That meant that he was no longer eligible under federal law, which I'm sure you know, you're very familiar with the INA, that he was no longer eligible for any form of immigration relief in the United States. A district court judge tried to tell the administration that they had to kidnap a citizen of El Salvador and fly him back here.

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That issue was raised with the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court said the district court order was unlawful and its main components were reversed 9-0 unanimously, stating clearly that neither Secretary of State nor the president could be compelled by anybody to forcibly retrieve a citizen of El Salvador.

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There's a lot to unpack here, including his six-pack would be among the things you need to unpack. He did post it, yes. This is a very attractive man, and I am attracted to the shooter. And I have to just say, not exactly my type. I mean, objectively handsome. I think once you kill someone. Not exactly my type, yeah.

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In that category, kind of the Boston Marathon bomber was kind of a little bit more my wheelhouse.

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So I've been in contact with our local FBI multiple times. We are in contact with them here. We are not calling it a terror attack at this point. Again, it's way too early to speculate motive. You know, I know there's a lot out there on social media, but I ask people just to give us a little bit of patience while we work through a really complex scene.

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And can you tell me how to put your title out there today? Who are you representing?

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Let's see if any of you have researched anything about this issue at all. Can anyone here tell me what would happen to the illegal alien from El Salvador if he came back to the United States? Does anyone here know? Does anyone want to guess? Any of you.

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He would be arrested. He would be put in confinement. He would be deported a second time to El Salvador again because there's no withholding order for an alien who's a member of a foreign terrorist organization, number one. Number two is the gang that he's a member of doesn't exist in El Salvador anymore. So what you're asking for is to be deported twice, but...

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So I'm trying to understand from you all this. So if he came back and under our laws, he was then deported to Egypt or to Somalia, would you then be saying, great, I'm so glad that you deported him to another country? Is that what you'd all be saying? Do you understand our immigration laws at all? Do you know the difference between a deportation order and a withholding order?

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Do you know the difference? Any of you, please. Do you? Well, we're not in the government. What I'm getting from this is that one person in the media knows the difference between a deportation order and a withholding order. Is that a fair statement? You're learning this all for the first time right now? I guess so.

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OK, so the deportation order means the judge has said he must be deported from the country. He has no right to remain here any longer. He must be removed from the country. So his only options are to be deported to his home country or another country. That's it. By the way, he doesn't get to stay here. He doesn't get to live here. He has no future here. He has no right to be here.

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Kash Patel Takes Over FBI, Hamas Hostage Outrage, and DOGE Refund Potential: AM Update for 2/21

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The way that it works is when you achieve savings, you can either return it to taxpayers, you can return it to our debtors, or it can be cycled into next year's budget and then it just lowers the overall baseline for next year. And when is it that people might see those checks? Well, it's all going to be worked on through the reconciliation process with Congress.

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Under President Trump, everyone wants to do business in America, Sean. Everyone wants to do business here. Low regs, low taxes, cheap energy, and a winning president. Everyone wants to do business now in America, Sean. Yeah, I don't really think so.

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Well, first of all, I had the pleasure of getting to be at the meeting today between the President of the United States and the Prime Minister of Canada. What I witnessed was like watching a grandmaster in chess perform.

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Republicans Freak Out Over Major Election Loss

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In this country. And now they say, they have the temerity to say that every single invader that Joe Biden let in should get their own individual judicial trial before they're deported, one at a time. Each one gets a million dollar trial in front of a communist judge to decide whether or not we can send them home. How about hell no?

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How about we pick them up and we get them out of this country so they can't hurt anyone else?

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I promise you, if he was your neighbor, you would move right away. So you don't plan to ask for it? But the Supreme Court is asking to... And what was the ruling in the Supreme Court, Steve? Was it nine to nothing? Yes, it was a nine to zero. In our favor.

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In our favor against the district court ruling saying that no district court has the power to compel the foreign policy function of the United States. As Pam said, the ruling solely stated that if this individual at El Salvador's sole discretion was sent back to our country that we could deport him a second time.

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No version of this legally ends up with him ever living here because he is a citizen of El Salvador. That is the president of El Salvador. Your questions about it per the court can only be directed to him.

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I promise you, if he was your neighbor, you would move right away. So you don't plan to ask for it until we get it back? Was the ruling in the Supreme Court, Steve, was it 9-0? Yes, it was a 9-0 in our favor against the district court ruling, saying that no district court has the power to compel the foreign policy function of the United States.

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As Pam said, the ruling solely stated that if this individual, at El Salvador's sole discretion, was sent back to our country, that we could deport him a second time. No version of this legally ends up with him ever living here, because he is a citizen of El Salvador. That is the president of El Salvador. Your questions about it, per the court, can only be directed to him.

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Yikes! Fox News Loses It as Trump Tanks Bad

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They look like fools and Donald Trump looks more brilliant and more genius every single day as he's implementing his agenda and it's working and our lives are getting better by the minute.

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But the president is right. He should stay the course. He has a constitutional right and duty to defend our tax dollars. Russ Vogt can use impoundment. We can do rescissions. And the president is not forced to spend every single dollar. He can do it the way he sees fit as the chief executive.

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There is a trade. We already have a free trade agreement. We have a trade surplus. So getting the least bad, why did they get whacked in the first place?

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Ambassador Clear, answer the question on Australia. We have a trade surplus with Australia. We have a free trade agreement. Why? They are an incredibly important national security partner. Why were they whacked with a tariff?

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I think that answer... Sir, you're a much smarter person than that answer. The idea that we are going to whack friend and foe alike... And particularly friends with this level is both, I think, insulting the Australians, undermines our national security, and frankly makes us not a good partner going forward.

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The lack of trust from friends and allies based upon this ridiculous policy that goes into full effect at midnight tonight is extraordinary.

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Thought Reform and Cyber Security: Where Cult Manipulation Techniques Meet Technology With Dustin Rozario Steinhagen, PhD

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Right. And I have a question because I didn't read your dissertation, forgive me, yet. But did you ask any questions if people had children?

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I would I would argue, though, in this day and age that bad actors want wealthy people and influencers, so they'll target them over somebody who is not knowledgeable, educated. well-situated. So I think there's a targeting piece that may be at play. Right.

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No, I apologize. I told you I didn't want to interrupt and talk too much. No, it's okay. Anyway, please continue.

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Yeah, I will add just that there are cult apologists who are paid sociologists of religion who go out of their way to say there's no such thing as brainwashing and mind control, or cults and what not. people to call religious cults new religious movements instead. So there's that element, just as Big Tobacco had deniers that smoking class cancer and fossil fuel companies do that too.

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But then there are people in cults who really don't believe that they've been brainwashed like I was in the Moonies. I was like, no, definitely not. So anyway, please continue.

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Very much so. And when the public describes, my son is different. He came back one weekend and he's a different person. They're recognizing there's an identity shift that took place. Yeah. Yeah.

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No, you're teaching me because I'm not an expert in cyber education and social engineering. So please, that's partly why I wanted to have you on the show. Yeah.

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It is impressive, but I can't help but comment, Dustin, that... I've been attacked by being called brainwashed by Soros and the Libtards, so they think that it exists. Only the other side that's critical of Trump is getting it. So it's confusing for most people, I think.

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Exactly. I was just going to comment, Alexandra Steen is a social psychologist in the UK and wrote this very good book and connected the dots with attachment disorder and The other piece is just that it's a dissociative disorder. So the Mooney Steve was dependent. It was a child personality that was going to follow the father figure, whatever he said or did.

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And we're going to do a blog based on this and link it directly to it. So it'll be in my sub stack. And... So I am wondering, now that you've completed this, and I know how much work goes into doing a doctorate, what do you want to see happen? Like, talk about your personal curiousness. future research goals and then what you would like to see the field do more of.

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So may I interrupt you, Dustin, and just for my listeners who may need a refresher on Cambridge Analytica, and I know I think Christopher Wiley wrote a book about it. Tell our listeners just a bit about what that was about. Sure.

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Yeah, I'll add clinical as a therapist that there's vast numbers of people in need of specialized counseling. But the other big thing is public health. There's a whole discipline, master's and PhD level for public health. And I see this as a public health emergency. Yeah. This is a mind virus. Coming back to your original comments about the brain is a computing device and the mind can get hacked.

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So that speaks to the need for inoculation programs for all people to at least have some filters. And I offer my influence continuum and bite model just as one one model, but then doing training for clinicians, educators, media, politicians, policymakers, and then what do we do with people coming out of the rabbit hole who are going like, what happened to me?

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Because they need to be reintegrated back into the world and society. Yeah.

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Yeah, dissertation committees always want you to chunk it down to something that's actually finishable within a reasonable amount of time. Because people start out with grandiose ideas, and they're like, that'll take 20 years and $20 million. Yeah, do something simple. Yeah, do something that you can afford that's just incrementally moving forward. moving the ball down the thing.

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I was going to comment on law professor Nita Farahani's work on cognitive security. She's been talking about all of these AirPods and virtual reality things and who's going to own the data from all of these instruments that are being collected and put in the cloud. There's nothing on that. And then I'll add that there's a

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graduate student-to-be, Matthew Bywater, who's been talking about wanting to create a freedom of the mind human right that would be more comprehensive, that looks at bite model stuff and the subcomponents of that as well.

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But as you were talking, Dustin, I was thinking about China and Xi and just how authoritarian the whole country is and how they won't allow other cults to exist there, but the whole society is a cult and they have surveillance and AI for almost everything. So what are your thoughts about that as a future, since it's so powerful?

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And one of Lifton's eight criteria from 61 was the cult of confession, which not all cults formally get people together and have people stand up and confess all their sins. But the idea is there's no privacy.

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that the group owns and knows everything about your past and can use that information if you get out of line or to punish you or... Yeah, that connects to the blackmail harm, which can really... I mean, again, then blackmail can be used to limit people's autonomy because... Absolutely.

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Yeah. So... I wish you could get a huge grant and get a whole bunch of students, and I would love to see an evaluation done on propaganda videos. In particular, this morning I was reading a Rolling Stone article about how RFK Jr., who's been selected by Trump to head the Health and Human Services, that he admitted funding the plandemic. video and anti-vax videos.

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And I've talked to people who got converted to QAnon because of watching those, just from watching it. And for me, when I watched it, it seemed hypnotic at places. It had people pretending, you know, who asserted an expertise they didn't have. And typically with propaganda, you say something true, you say another thing that's true, and then you slip in something that's unverifiable.

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And then you go back to something that's true, and then you put something in that's outrageous. But then you put something in that's true, and you're like sandwiching in these false beliefs at such a fast rate that consciously people don't have time to—unless you're pausing the video and looking it up— It's just coming in.

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So I'd love to see something like that done for a doctoral dissertation to analyze.

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If I may add, there was a documentary, I believe, called The Great Hack for people who want more details about it. And my recollection, if I may add, is just that they got into Facebook and were doing questionnaires. and used the questionnaires to get to all the friends of the people who responded. I was in that hack.

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Testimonies of former members can serve that function to a certain extent. Have them tell their story of the step-by-step and where they got tricked or where they got manipulated.

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Yeah, like not giving your underage kid a smartphone. Not letting them have a computer in their bedroom and having it in the living room where you can monitor their use. Yeah. All kinds of interesting things. Can I ask you about AI agents? Because we're very aware that these are just trillions of dollars are being poured into this area. but there doesn't seem to be any ethical frameworks.

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It's just more like, you know, how do you get more time and attention from the person signing up or whatever?

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I got a notification from Facebook that my data was scraped and all of my followers. So I was very displeased. So thanks for sharing that. So that happened and you were like, wow.

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It's a large language model that it's working off of, and Wikipedia is rife with bad information in the field of cults and brainwashing and mind control. So they hallucinate, they make up stuff, but it's because it's being fed junk.

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Yeah, I've experimented a little bit and then I abandoned it because I just don't have the funds or the time. But I paid for a bot from MIT AI Lab affiliations and I uploaded two million words of my writings and my lectures and my courses and everything else. Instead of it drawing upon the general information of the world, it just had Steve Hassan's expertise on the subject.

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Hello, I'm Dr. Stephen Hassan with another episode of the Influence Continuum. I have a newly minted doctor as a guest today. I'm very, very excited to have with me Dr. Dustin Rosario-Steinhagen. He's a privacy expert. He just got your doctorate degree in cyber defense. You've published numerous times in privacy literature, including fields of privacy education and neuro privacy.

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I was thinking that it would be a great tool for people to come to my website and ask questions and such. But even that was not to the level that I felt comfortable using and stopped paying $100 a month because it was getting expensive to pay for that.

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So are you teaching now? What are you doing? Are you working for a private firm?

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Well, I'll publicly invite you. I'm a fielding fellow. That's where I did my doctoral work at Fielding Graduate University, and that gives me access to grants. And Fielding will get a big chunk of it, but it's a nonprofit, and we could get grants anywhere. So I'm extending a freedom of mind handshake to you if you want to do something together.

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Maybe it's a matter of just thinking what next and writing a grant proposal and submitting it.

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No? I mean, it was, but when I did my lit review, I was shocked... And I shouldn't have been, but I was just shocked at how much these sociologists of religion who were advancing the no such thing as brainwashing and no such thing as thought reform existed in the literature. But what's shifting in the years since I...

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finished my dissertation in 2020 is there's more former members who are mental health professionals and pursuing advanced degrees, doing articles and research studies. And it's so obvious that people are believing the earth is flat or there are green reptiles or that, you know, just so it's not just conspiracy theories, but they're actual cults, online cults. So

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I don't think it'll be hard to get a grant if it's something you're interested in. I don't think it's controversial. I think people who are doing mind control don't want the public to be informed, so they may try to sabotage. or censor. But science needs to advance, even if there are those in power that say, no, no, no, we can't go there.

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So as we're wrapping up, any other points you'd like to share with my listeners?

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Yeah, and I'll add to have community in real life with real people that you know and trust and lean on each other and be in nature, listen to music, go dancing, play with animals that you love, puppies and cats and whatever, your kids, and do things that bring us back to the human experience.

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Yeah, and a lot of people are learning not to be on their freaking phone for 10 hours a day and certainly not to be up all night because sleep is critical for our immune system and for our brain to reset. So to really learn, you know, hygiene, mind hygiene.

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Yeah, make real friends in the real world. So, Dustin Steinhagen, thank you so much. Defending the security of the mind, a male survey of thought reform literacy in South Dakota, newly minted PhD and cyber expert. Thank you so much. It's been a pleasure, Dr. Hassan. Thank you. That's it for today's episode of the Influence Continuum. I've been your host, Dr. Stephen Hassan.

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Theme music for the podcast is by Nasser Malik. To keep up to date with me and happenings that I think are important, please visit my website at freedomofmind.com. There you'll find in-depth articles about cults, mind control, and other relevant topics. You can also find me on Twitter and Instagram at cultexpert.

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If you want to develop a comprehensive understanding of these topics, I highly recommend my books, Combating Cult Mind Control, Freedom of Mind, and The Cult of Trump, in that order. These books are a culmination of 45 plus years of experience and will really help you grasp the complex web of undue influence.

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I have also launched a new nine-hour online course for anyone interested in a deep dive into issues related to recovering from undue influence in all forms. While this course is designed for clinicians, everyone can benefit. Remember, love is stronger than mind control. And thanks for listening.

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And we want to talk today about the topic of your dissertation research, which is titled Defending the Security of the Mind, a Male Survey of Thought Reform Literacy in South Dakota. And all I can say is I was very excited to learn about your doctoral research. I know you approached me to be on your committee, which I unfortunately was overcommitted in other ways.

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based on false information. And it's very, very nefarious and harmful and painful. And forgive me for adding one more thing, but just recently there was a young boy who fell in love with a chatbot on Character AI and killed himself because he wanted to be with this chatbot for eternity. Yeah, I saw that story in the news recently as well. Yeah. So let's go back to you.

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So there you were, the brain is a computer, it can be hacked, Cambridge Analytica, and you're at Cornell going, okay, what do I want to do with my life?

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Right. And to state the obvious, America does not have any data privacy laws in place. So all of these companies are taking our data, putting them on the dark web, right? So we have thousands of pieces of information about our choices on some dark cloud somewhere that some bad actor could potentially buy and use. Is that right?

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Right. So tell us more about how you went about the study, what you were hoping to, you know, with science, you were always trying to do research that's cutting edge, that moves the boulder a little bit further up the mountain, right? So tell us about your process.

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That's the Japanese sarin gas apocalyptic conspiracy cult that issued sarin gas, killed and injured many Japanese people. My mentor, Robert J. Lifton, who wrote the seminal book, Thought Reform and the Psychology of Totalism, did a book called Destroying the World to Save It about apocalyptic cults and featured the Aum Shinrikyo cult.

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I couldn't serve, but my dear friend and colleague John Atack did serve. John is an ex-Scientologist and a brilliant mind. unto himself. And it sounds like you're really doing cutting edge work. So I wanted to interview you, hear more about what you were interested in, how you got interested in this, its applications, and get more people, especially young people, interested in this topic.

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You typically Yeah, I believe that response. So do you live in South Dakota? I did.

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Okay, good. So please continue. So tell us about what you asked and what the results were.

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Yeah, well, folks like me from big cities have ideas about Dakota and South Dakota and stuff. So I think it's really fascinating, frankly. I'll just comment that it is the biggest vulnerability to think that you're invulnerable. to being deceived and manipulated. It's like, oh my God. And it's amazing when I talk to people who say, no, it would never happen to me. And then I ask them questions.

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And they're like, oh, actually, I... did fall for someone who was a narcissist, then they did hurt me, and I did have this boss. But people walk around thinking they're too smart.

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What was the ruling in the Supreme Court, Steve? Was it nine to nothing? Yes, it was a nine to zero. In our favor. In our favor against the district court ruling saying that no district court has the power to compel the foreign policy function of the United States. As Pam said, the ruling solely stated that if this individual at El Salvador's sole discretion...

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was sent back to our country, that we could deport him a second time. No version of this legally ends up with him ever living here because he is a citizen of El Salvador. That is the president of El Salvador.

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Yes, gladly. So as Pam mentioned, there's an illegal alien from El Salvador. So with respect to you, He's a citizen of El Salvador, so it's very arrogant even for American media to suggest that we would even tell El Salvador how to handle their own citizens as a starting point.

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As two immigration courts found that he was a member of MS-13, when President Trump declared MS-13 to be a foreign terrorist organization, That meant that he was no longer eligible under federal law, which I'm sure you know, you're very familiar with the INA, that he was no longer eligible for any form of immigration relief in the United States.

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So he had a deportation order that was valid, which meant that under our law, he's not even allowed to be present in the United States and had to be returned because of the foreign terrorist designation. This issue was then by a district court judge

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completely inverted, and a district court judge tried to tell the administration that they had to kidnap a citizen of El Salvador and fly him back here. That issue was raised with the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court said the district court order was unlawful and its main components were reversed 9-0 unanimously, stating clearly

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that neither secretary of state nor the president could be compelled by anybody to forcibly retrieve a citizen of El Salvador from El Salvador, who again is a member of MS-13.

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So I wanna correct, I hate to do it, Bill, but I gotta correct you on every single thing that you said, because it was all wrong. First, we won the Supreme Court case.

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Clearly, 9-0, a district court judge said unconscionably that the president and his administration have to go into El Salvador and extradite one of their citizens, an El Salvadorian citizen, so that would be kidnapping, that we have to kidnap an El Salvadorian citizen against the will of his government and fly him back to America, which would be an unimaginable act and invasion of El Salvador's sovereignty.

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So he appealed to the Supreme Court and it said clearly no district court can compel the president to exercise his Article 2 foreign powers in any way whatsoever. DOJ called me after that Supreme Court ruling and they said, this is amazing. We won this case 9-0. We are in excellent standing here. So this has been portrayed wrong for 72 hours.

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You all know he has renamed the Gulf of Mexico to its correct and proper name, the Gulf of America. He has renamed Mount Denali into Mount McKinley, part of a historic effort to restore patriotism and national pride all across this land.

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I am, yes.

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Sitting here, under discussion. So did you know that this was under discussion? And why did you not include that as part of your opening remarks?

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Excuse me? China increased their tariffs on the United States. Trump blinked. What's the blink, sir?

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So the trade representative hasn't spoken to the president of the United States about a global reordering of trade negotiations. Yes, I have. I've just been in a hearing with you. But yet he announced it on a tweet. WTF?

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Mr. President, thank you for your time. It's interesting that you brought up Harvard, because when people think about Harvard, what they're basically talking about is they're asking, what do you say to those who view your actions as an attack on academic freedom rather than a defense of fairness? What do you say to that?

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He will immediately sign executive orders, sealing the border shut, beginning the largest deportation operation in American history, finding the criminal gangs, rapists, drug dealers and monsters that have murdered our citizens and sending them home. No one will be allowed to enter the country illegally and ICE will be empowered in partnership with FBI, DEA, ATF, the National Guard to

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fully seal and secure the border with CBP and to find and identify the criminal threats that are inside this country and send them back home.