The Megyn Kelly Show
Horrifying CNN Celebration of Luigi, Sanchez in Space, and Maher's White House Trip, with Walter Kirn and Matt Taibbi | Ep. 1048
Mon, 14 Apr 2025
Megyn Kelly is joined by Walter Kirn and Matt Taibbi, hosts of "America This Week," to discuss Lauren Sanchez, Katy Perry, and Gayle King going to space for a few minutes, why it was framed as some big step for feminism, Sanchez' relationship with Jeff Bezos and her bizarre interview when she came back, the ridiculous over-the-top Blue Origin announcers, pretending they actually did "training" for this space visit for two days, the horrifying terror and arson at the Pennsylvania’s Governor’s mansion, how his family was sleeping inside but escaped, details about the suspect and his extremism, Taylor Lorenz giggling about Luigi Mangione in a shocking CNN segment, her disgusting praise of him and those who support him, Bill Maher revealing what happened at his dinner with Trump at the White House, how he surprisingly described him as gracious and a good listener, what this could mean for his future coverage of Trump and viewership, Taibbi suing a Democratic Congresswoman who smeared him in Congress and also on X, the attacks he's faced over the years from the government, and more. Kirn- https://countyhighway.com/Taibbi- https://www.racket.news/ Birch Gold: Text MK to 989898 and get your free info kit on goldDone with Debt: https://www.DoneWithDebt.com & tell them Megyn sent you!ARMRA: go to https://tryarmra.com/MEGYN to get 15% offByrna: Go to https://Byrna.com/MEGYN to save 10%Follow The Megyn Kelly Show on all social platforms:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/MegynKellyTwitter: http://Twitter.com/MegynKellyShowInstagram: http://Instagram.com/MegynKellyShowFacebook: http://Facebook.com/MegynKellyShow Find out more information at: https://www.devilmaycaremedia.com/megynkellyshow
Chapter 1: What was the controversy around Lauren Sanchez and the Blue Origin space flight?
And then this morning, a bunch of ladies celebrated female empowerment by putting on sexy fake astronaut suits and going up into sort of outer space for 11 minutes. Through all the engineering and mathematical wizardry and physics wizardry of a bunch of people who didn't get any credit and were behind some control room panel.
I guess we're supposed to believe that like Gayle King is an astronaut now. We're supposed to be celebrating them. Somehow it's supposed to be empowering because not enough women have gone up into space. What we mean is not enough are astronauts. Not enough women are astronauts. That's what we mean.
We don't mean please put Gayle King in yet another opportunity for her to try to act like a star while she's next to Oprah, who also was there, of course. She didn't get to go up. but she stood there on the sidelines. I don't feel empowered. This is like another, it's female White House press corps day at the White House. Remember I told you this during Obama?
They were like, it's female empowerment day or whatever. And they invited a bunch of women, including yours truly and some people from Fox to go over there and interview the president. And I was like, no, it's a no. I'll go over when I'm getting asked there because I'm worthy as a journalist, period. Not journalist with a vagina.
OK, I don't really want to be celebrated for that at all by anyone who doesn't know me. And I just feel uncomfortable about this. Like why? If they had been six astronauts going up there, then yes. OK, what did they do? The one gal is engaged to a billionaire and these are a bunch of celebrities she wanted to befriend. OK, OK.
Of course, Lauren Shands has, whatever her name, had to show off her tits. Okay, it's a little early in the hour to be dropping the T word. Her breasts in her little fake astronaut outfit, because what's a day if we don't get to see the girls on Lauren Sanchez? It's not as offensive as showing them at the presidential inauguration, but I think it's a little off message.
Isn't it a little off message? We're going to get into all the big stories today. Joining me now for the full show, Matt Taibbi, editor of Racket News on Substack, and Walter Kern. He's editor at large for County Highway, which I like, County Highway. Together, they host the America This Week podcast. You've heard about tariffs recently, plus inflation, supply chain disruptions. It's a lot.
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Chapter 2: How did the panel react to the portrayal of female empowerment in space travel?
It's so cringy. I'm sorry, but I'm like, don't show your boobs. Don't talk about your ass. Don't get your specially made space suit so that we can make sure to see all your curves as you go to outer space. Is that what it is to be a woman? Just show off as much sex appeal, ass, and boob as you can. Matt, I'm not sure I didn't catch that page in the female handbook.
I'm a little bit confused about the political meaning of toplessness now. You know, we saw there was that demonstration in Paris where all of the demonstrators were topless. And I wasn't sure whether I was supposed to look, not look, look furtively. Also... what exactly the meaning of that was supposed to be. Was it supposed to be erotic, de-eroticizing? Yeah, it's a very strange message now.
I think it's supposed to be something about empowerment, but it comes across as mostly confusing to me. I know. So, I don't know.
They dropped the movie Hidden Figures years ago, right? And that's a great movie about... women who are behind the scenes. I don't know how true it is, but it's a great movie. And it's women who are behind the scenes at NASA and contributed to the space program. Okay, that I get. What did these women do?
Like, honestly, one is sleeping with a billionaire who created this program and is jetting people... I mean, to outer space for like 10 minutes, you know, for as long as like your average YouTube video takes. And they came back and they're like, everything's changed. Is it? I don't. Okay. They had nothing to do with any of the engineering.
engineering there's basically they're just looking for famous faces who could draw attention to Jeff Bezos's weird little rocket his first little rocket looks exactly like a penis exactly the guy's working something out I think he's like working out his sexual fantasies on us and this one looks exactly like a breast with the nipple on the top look at this one I'm sorry gentlemen you know exactly what that looks like everyone does and now look at this one it's like a
I guess you could say igloo if you wanted to be charitable. To me, it looks like a breast from above. It really looks like a breast from above.
Walter! It's a little glands-like.
I was in terror that we were going to have another space shuttle disaster and that we were going to have to mourn these people for maybe the next 700 years. They did add to the space program something that it hasn't had, which is the red carpet and the sort of fashion critique at the beginning. So it was a combination of the MTV Music Awards, the Oscars, and the Apollo program.
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Chapter 3: What happened during the firebombing attack on Pennsylvania’s Governor’s Mansion?
This this this girl is so this Sanchez is so spoiled that even going into space didn't impress her, you know.
Oh, God. Very little will when you're married to Jeff Bezos and you could literally afford to buy it and sell everyone in America's family. But I suppose we're supposed to celebrate her. That's what we're supposed to do. We're supposed to celebrate her because accomplishment.
She bagged the billionaire after banging the billionaire after allegedly cheating, at least according to what I read in the National Enquirer. But there was a whole lawsuit about it where she accused, they said maybe her brother had sold pictures of text messages between the two of them. Then he claimed he'd been falsely attacked by... Can't remember who he blamed it on, a foreign government.
Anyway, it was a big scandal. Enough of them. Now, in other news about deplorable people, some absolute lunatic firebombed the Pennsylvania governor's mansion where Josh Shapiro and his wife and their children were sleeping. This guy goes in there at two in the morning. I have to say it wasn't exactly like a Jack Bauer entry. Seems like no one really tried to stop him.
I don't know what the story is on the governor's security, but I'm underwhelmed that he managed to break the window, get into the governor's mansion and start dropping Molotov cocktails. And then apparently it took them a while to actually track him down. That's a separate matter. Look at the devastation inside the mansion.
You could hear Governor Shapiro came out after the fact and you could tell he was somewhat rattled. Here he is, SOT 21.
Last night, we experienced an attack not just on our family, but on the entire Commonwealth of Pennsylvania here at the governor's residence. I spoke a couple hours ago with Director Kash Patel of the FBI. He promised all of the resources of the federal government. He was extremely kind and courteous and thoughtful in his conversation with me. And I thanked him and the women and men of the FBI
and the President of the United States for their support. Lori and I are... Lori and I are overwhelmed by the prayers and the messages of support that we've received from all across Pennsylvania and all across the United States.
Wow. I feel for him. He's got four young kids. I mean, they came pretty close to being killed this evening. And it was by some 38-year-old guy, reportedly Cody Balmer is his name. He's now charged with attempted murder, terrorism, aggravated arson. Look at this. This is reminding me of like the Notre Dame Cathedral shots we saw after it burned. Aggravated arson.
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Chapter 4: Who is Luigi Mangione and why is CNN's coverage of him controversial?
The slurs for Hispanics, the slurs for blacks, the slurs for gays, all of them right there from like right out of the barn. You're like, whoa, nevermind. We're going to try something else when you have little kids. We didn't all turn into psychopathic murderers, Walter, but NPR is really worried about inappropriate humor.
Remember that TV movie, The Boy in the Bubble? John Travolta. Yeah. Didn't have an immune system, so they had to be completely encased in a sterile capsule. Well, that's what they're trying to do to kids now. They're the boy in the bubble. They don't have... immune systems. They can't figure things out. They can't reject bad ideas.
They can't distinguish between sick humor that's just funny and actually killing someone for kicks. And so we're going to keep them in the bubble and it's going to be zip tight. The parents are going to check in every few hours to make sure there are no holes in it.
well what happens to that is your kid develops absolutely no immunity and will go out into the world and probably go crazy almost instantly once they're out of the controlled environment so so i see toughen your kids up use the old uh standard of exposing them to everything you know let them smoke cigarettes and get sick let them have a drink and throw up and let them laugh at hitler's mustache they'll be good people someday the other thing is going to create freaks
Right. Honestly, they need bad humor. They need to be able to make fun of each other. They need to be able to touch the untouchable or it becomes too important to them. It becomes like larger than life. And as usual, NPR's advice is totally wrong. An update for you. Shannon Watts is still not taking down her post. Mediaite has now added the political clarification that I read to you earlier.
That's not good enough. You have to say, as we reported, what we reported was wrong. It ends with he was referencing this school, not using a derogatory term for people with intellectual disabilities. And then you just need to add, as we earlier reported, we misled you. That's it. We were sorry. We fucked up. We listened to Politico.
Politico restated the name of the institution in its article and therefore is as guilty of exactly the same crime as RFK.
Are they not? No, they kicked it off. Exactly, yes, but they don't own that piece of it. Hold that thought. Quick break. We're back with Matt and Walter after this. There's a lot of talk about government debt, but after four years of inflation, another real crisis is personal debt.
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Chapter 5: What was the nature of Taylor Lorenz's comments on Luigi Mangione and media reactions?
It's free. But listen up. Some of their solutions are time sensitive, so you will need to move quickly. Go to donewithdebt.com. That's donewithdebt.com. Now, I have been dying to get back from break because I missed serious gold in the Blue Origin story that my team has redirected me to, and now I will bring you guys there as well. Take a listen to the female commentators as this...
nipple shaped rocket ship was about to take off. And the two commentators, I had to know their names when I heard this, uh, I'm told by Steve Krakauer include Teresa Thompson, who normally works with ESPN sports and Kristen Fisher, who used to be on Fox, but then went to CNN.
But both of them, we believe are just doing like blue origin announcing on this particular day, like not working for an outlet. So obviously hired by Bezos to do this. And would you listen to the commentary, guys?
When you are out there at this moment, this rocket feels like it is alive. It feels like it is a living, breathing, kissing thing, right?
And there's the gantry pulling back.
And this right here is the moment that they've been training for.
Training. Two days, becoming a crew, becoming a team.
After you go through an experience like this, it's more than a team. It's almost like a family. We're so tight to go through something as intense as this. As you said, this is like a bridled beast. This thing wants to take off.
Switch to onboard helium. Here we go. Good luck and Godspeed, ladies. We're cheering you on. Let's launch this rocket.
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Chapter 6: What was the controversy involving RFK Jr. at the FDA meeting?
Wow. I mean, so your thoughts then that this by Trump is the first time it's ever happened?
Clearly not. You know, I think we can go back through history and find many examples of people who've been investigated, you know, at least the DOJ has been nudged in the direction of somebody. I mean, I think that's been a feature of almost every presidential administration going back to Nixon. Am I wrong about that, Walter? I can't think of anybody who hasn't been in trouble for that.
But, you know, That whole thing that Miles Taylor, you know, he's a character, right? He was a significant character in the Twitter files. We didn't do a lot of the reports on those. Um, but I know that there was talk about investigating him even, um, even before the end of Trump's first term.
Yeah, I'm sure there was. By the way, just in case the audience doesn't remember, Twitter Files, of course, is the release of all sorts of files at Twitter, now X, by Elon once he took it over, showing massive government coordination with social media companies, including X, to do things like stifle all free discussion around COVID and many other subjects. Sorry, go ahead, Walter.
What were you going to say?
Well, maybe I don't understand security clearances, but I thought the deal was you get one and then you get to look at stuff that you're not allowed to talk about. This guy may not have talked about classified information, but he did open his mouth very loudly and against his commander in chief at the time or his executive.
and why he would expect that he would not become a target once he's outed. The reason he was anonymous is that he was afraid of what he was doing. Then he got de-anonymized, and they're looking into him. That makes him a victim of some kind? Why do you keep these clearances for life? I don't understand that at all. I don't get it either. They walk around with them.
Apparently, they're a great way to earn money. They're a subsidy. Yeah, they're a subsidy to people. It's sort of like an honorary badge that you can use for the rest of your life. And people who want you to look at classified things, I guess, can have you do that. But I think they should probably expire and not need to be taken away.
I agree. And then you can get it on a case-by-case basis, but that seems to be plenty. Now, not content to have had your first, or at least probably wasn't your first, Matt, but your most recent appearance before Congress results in a scary visit from the IRS. You went back to Congress. You've been back a few times. And the most recent one was just a couple of months ago, I believe, whereupon-
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Chapter 7: How does the episode critique modern media and cultural handling of sensitive topics?
But on deportation hearings, it's a quickie, you know, what do we know? What don't we know? Get out. And then they usually stay. Okay. So what happened with this guy was he was brought over and he was like 15 or 16 by his parents from El Salvador. And, um, then grew up to allegedly become part of MS 13 here in America, down in Virginia or Maryland around there. And, um,
He got pinpointed as a potentially problematic guy, as a gang member potentially, and dragged into immigration court. And we had an immigration proceeding against him. We didn't have a criminal proceeding against him. And then it went up on appeal within the immigration system. And two courts, the lower court and the upper court, found that
He had enough gang ties that they were convinced he was a member of MS-13. They took witness testimony from a confidential informant. And apparently even El Salvador says he was a member of MS-13. So he was ordered to be deported. Get out. Now he's in his mid-20s. Please leave. And only... This took a while, all these proceedings. And only on the eve of his deportation did he say, I...
it was basically an asylum claim. You can't claim asylum in the United States unless you claim it within like the first year of being here, which he missed. But so it wasn't asylum exactly, but it was like, I need humanitarian relief. You can't send me back to El Salvador. And the reason is that there's this terrible gang there that wants to kill me and my whole family.
We were making some sort of a food. They like to make that food. They didn't want my family to make the food. My mother, my brother, me, we'll all be dead if you send me back to El Salvador. And some judge was like, OK, and gave him this order of suspended removal where he we could still deport him. We could send him to any country in the world that would have him.
But we can't send him to El Salvador because of this judge's order. At least then, if circumstances change, you can send him back to El Salvador. And by the way, that gang that was allegedly targeting him that he forgot to mention during two long immigration removal hearings, never mentioned once, only came up once he lost and he was already deported. no longer exists.
So our government very easily could have gone back into immigration court and gotten an order saying the removal suspension's lifted. You're going home, buddy. But now he's like been removed, thanks to Trump. And he's playing the, I'm an American. I have kids. One may be special needs. This is so wrong. I'm just a dreamer.
Forget all those allegations about me being part of MS-13 that two courts found were real, that El Salvador says are real. It was never found by a criminal court, so it can't be real. And we think the evidence is sketchy. And I'm an American. Send me back home, which he's not. He's an El Salvadoran.
That's the synopsis, by the way, the one the media won't give you about this guy, Abrego Garcia, who's become the left wing's poster boy for wrongful deportations. The left has taken this case up. They got an order from a lower court judge saying we have to we have to
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