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The Daily

Stephen Miller’s Return to Power

Mon, 27 Jan 2025

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At the center of President Trump’s aggressive first week back in office is a 39-year-old adviser, Stephen Miller. His ideas and ideology have animated the blitz of executive orders.Jonathan Swan, a White House reporter for The New York Times, explains Mr. Miller’s dramatic return to the White House, and why his power has never been greater.Guests: Jonathan Swan, a White House reporter for The New York Times.Background reading: Stephen Miller has built more power than ever.Mr. Miller, the incoming deputy chief of staff, told lawmakers that early action would include directives to give Mr. Trump more control over federal workers.For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. Photo: Evelyn Hockstein/Reuters Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

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1.795 - 37.463 Natalie Kitroweth

From The New York Times, I'm Natalie Kitroweth. This is The Daily. At the center of Trump's aggressive first week in office is a 39-year-old advisor, Stephen Miller. It's his ideas and ideology that have animated the president's unprecedented blitz of executive orders. Today, my colleague Jonathan Swan explains Miller's dramatic return to the White House and why his power has never been greater.

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45.969 - 55.559 Natalie Kitroweth

It's Monday, January 27th. Jonathan, welcome back.

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56.099 - 56.779 Jonathan Swan

Thanks for having me.

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57.44 - 67.644 Natalie Kitroweth

I think a lot of us remember Stephen Miller from the first Trump term. But now that he's back, what do we need to know about who Miller has become and the role he's going to play this time around?

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68.345 - 92.507 Jonathan Swan

Well, he's immensely powerful. I could make a case that he is one of, if not the most powerful, unelected people in America right now. He is Donald Trump's deputy chief of staff for policy, which, you know, may not sound that impressive, but to take all the jargon away, he is in charge of domestic policy. Full stop.

92.767 - 100.35 Narrator

President Donald Trump's second term in the White House began with a flurry of unilateral actions, and he's showing no signs of slowing down.

100.65 - 110.678 Jonathan Swan

So many of the executive orders that you've seen Donald Trump's sign with his sharpie in his first week in office were the work of Stephen Miller. Okay.

110.958 - 126.434 Executive Order Reader

Sir, this is an executive order realigning the United States refugee admission program. This is a proclamation guaranteeing the state's protection against invasion based on the current crisis at the southern border. This next order relates to the definition of birthright citizenship under the 14th Amendment of the United States.

126.654 - 127.115 Executive Order Reader

Birthright.

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