The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
Sat, 28 Dec 2024
Enjoy Charlie's in-depth AmFest interview with former Congressman Matt Gaetz, where he discusses Trump's cabinet, Pam Bondi, and his next moves after leaving Washington, before taking questions from the CK Exclusives subscriber audience. Join Charlie's interviews in-person at next year's AmFest by becoming a subscriber at members.charliekirk.com.Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
What insights does Matt Gaetz share about Congress?
I would be happy with the results of any election held at turning point. I could be elected pope. I'm a Baptist.
We talked about the pope yesterday. We're not doing that again. So, Matt, you had the pleasure of not being involved in this latest CR. You are now totally detached. So I just want to get your analysis and explain what happened this last week.
Something that's never happened before. For eight years in Congress, I tried to break a system where there is rhythmically a December omnibus spending bill, usually thousands of pages, spending money we don't have, borrowing money from one country to go send it to another country as if somehow that makes us more powerful, and never... individually scrutinizing anything in the budget.
And if your elected member of Congress has concern over the efficacy of a program or the level of spending in an agency or the constitutional authority of one, and so I would dutifully vote against these things. And time and again, I thought, what can we do to break that system? Do we have to extract promises from a Speaker of the House? Do we have to fire a Speaker of the House?
And yet again, rhythmically, this would occur over and over again. And for the very first time, we beat them. And the reason we beat them is because the full power of the lobby corps in Washington, D.C. is not as strong as the movement led by President Trump, animated by Turning Point, encouraged by Elon Musk, and motivated by millions of patriotic Americans on X and throughout the country.
Now, Matt, before we celebrate too much, there was an attempt to do a 1,500-page boondoggle. Sure. So what was that?
Where did that come from? Do you think that after the election, the entire lobby corps of Washington, D.C. just gave up? Do you think that the swamp creature self-evicted? just because Trump was in or McCarthy was gone or whatever changed. No, no, no, no. They believe they are more resilient than that. And they dig in and they burrow in.
And then in the last minute, you saw this 1,500-page bill emerge, as it always does, and then you heard the same old line, oh, we have to vote for this for our troops and for our border patrol. And then it had literally the funding of the very censorship industrial complex that we organize conferences like this to combat. And so you...
Every single lobbyist firm in Washington wanted that bill to pass. Every single one of them. Because they all had something in it. And you know what? They will be back. But the good news is we've had the taste of victory in our mouths a little bit now. And I think we're hungry for more. And we're going to stay on the case.
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