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A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
The left doesn't want you to spit on that thing. Hello, hello, and welcome back to A Bit Fruity, the podcast where my philosophy on sex has always been the same. You should have as much of it as you want, especially if it's gay. Earlier this month, a 26-year-old semi-successful right-wing social media influencer named Ashley St. Clair made an announcement.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
And I don't know, I felt like I wanted to start this episode with that premise because it makes it easier to understand how the cultural approach from Republicans towards sex changes.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
as this like white christian purity thing to this like wild like reproductive race we love hawk tua like these are all just ploys at drawing as many people into the fold with whatever's popular in any given moment i feel like do you think that's a fair place to start
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
That was really good. That was good. You're ready to play the Ashley St. Clair biopic.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
Following the right wing, especially the right wing culture warriors lately, it's like, okay, they want to bring back, you know, hot sexual women, but they are against contraception and recreational sex. They want to repopulate the world with as many of Elon Musk's children as possible. But they're against having children outside of wedlock. You need to be modest, but you need to be sexy.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
And it's just like, what are we doing here?
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
This would be Elon Musk's 13th child with a total of four different women. Since the announcement, Ashley's become the subject of enormous waves of every possible reaction, from congratulations to just about everything you'd imagine the internet would have to say about a relatively obscure young woman who births a famous man's child out of wedlock.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
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A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
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The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
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A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
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A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
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A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
And to be clear, I am no fan nor friend of Ashley St. Clair. But, you know, she seems to be going through a lot. And Elon has been quiet. Elon's only public acknowledgement of any of this so far has been in response to a tweet from longtime gay neo-Nazi Milo Yiannopoulos, who tweeted that Ashley, a 26-year-old, I'm 26. I'm 26. What am I doing?
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
I could be having Elon Musk's child if I played my cards right. Milo Yiannopoulos tweeted that Ashley, a 26-year-old, has been scheming for, quote, over half a decade to trap Elon into having a child with her. To which Elon responded, one word, whoa.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
To be honest, kind of everybody stopped resigning from office. People are dying in office like nobody's leaving for any reason anymore.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
You were born. I'm 26. You are in the Zoom with someone who is, mind you, the same age as Ashley St. Clair.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
No, but I am about to have Elon Musk's 14th child.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
No, I just did it for the sex. Oh, I'm just kidding. I can't even make that joke. I can't even make that joke. Oh, God.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
Sorry, I veered you off topic. You were saying Larry Craig.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
Nice. Yeah, I guess does heterosexual mall cruising exist?
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
I haven't been around that long, but even when I was a kid, a story like this would have been the only thing that anyone in America talks about for months. Yet now it feels anodyne. Like, you probably haven't even heard about it.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
Yeah, ridiculous. They used to do that.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
Your bread and butter is like, oh, you guys are so academic. You guys are so smart with all this like sexual, political, feminist theory stuff. I love talking about influencers. I want to bring my specialty to the table.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
I'm so happy I could have that impact on people. So, you know, you the listener, you talking to you. If you listen to this podcast, you know that I often tell stories about culture and politics through stories about online influencers. This episode will be no different. And I want to talk about someone who I have spent years paying attention to. And that is a one classically Abby.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
In a time when some of the biggest brands associated with the new right are barstool and UFC fighting, and when half of the president's cabinet is actively fighting against their own sexual assault allegations, and... Of course, when the president himself is a decades-long serial cheater and sexual predator, this story broke, and it's kind of just like, you know, happy Valentine's Day.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
What do you know about classically Abby?
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
Allow me. Adrian, allow me. Walk with me here. You're totally right, Maura. Like she'll make just like relatively, it's like, you know, it's like, okay, like now I'm putting on brown eyeshadow and mascara and it's like, okay, we all put on brown eyeshadow, mascara, whatever.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
And she'll be like, but I'd never wear, you know, pink eyeshadow and false lashes like these crazy promiscuous women of today.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
So I put Classically Abby in here because she is, to me, the early 2020s example of a truly conservative, like Republican influencer. She is like, let me explain. Oh, I'm so happy I can finally talk about this. It's like... It's like standing up after six years of sitting down.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
In 2019, Classically Abby joins YouTube as someone who's clearly trying to just be like a makeup influencer, like a Tati Westbrook type. I have these screenshots of some of her first videos. And they're all they're like, classic winter look winged eyeliner, high end makeup, try on, you know, Anastasia Beverly Hills eyeshadow palette review.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
And these videos view wise weren't really getting much traction.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
Well, I'm so glad you asked. After a year or two of trying to no avail to be just like a makeup YouTuber, Classically Abby releases a 2 minute and 48 second long banger of a video called conservative women it's our time let's take the culture back this is one of my favorite youtube videos and i thought we could just watch it together if that's okay please okay
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
I often make jokes online about the erosion of traditional conservative values within the party that's for decades branded itself as the party of traditional conservative values. But it's all starting to feel like that erosion is a feature, not a bug, of the party. And that's what I want to talk about in today's episode. To do that today, I have invited two friends and fellow podcasters.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
It's a masterpiece. She's so fascinating to me. Immediately after this video comes out, and it goes pretty viral. It has a million views. She immediately turns into what I wrote in my notes as if Phyllis Schlafly was a YouTuber. Here are some of her video titles. Why you should dress modestly. Get the attention you deserve. Why WAP is degrading to women. Dear ladies, it's good to act like a lady.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
Ladies, sex before marriage is ruining your life. These videos got, like, actually kind of a lot of views for a while. But if you were there at the time, you would remember... that it was basically just because everyone was clowning on this lady. Like, I don't think she ever accrued much of a serious audience.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
And when she was getting the most views was basically when people were turning all of her videos into memes. Because like you said, Moira, it's so self-serious. It's hard to see her as someone you would like genuinely enjoy watching and consuming content from, even if you are actually a conservative.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
Moira Donegan and Adrian Daub are hosts of In Bed With The Right, a podcast about the right's ideas on gender and sex and sexuality, which I've actually been on. So for some reason you want to hear more of me, you can go listen to my episode over there. And I am so excited to have you here. You guys are experts on whatever is going on here. So thank you for joining.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
Right. And part of why I followed Classically Abby from afar for so long was that her views steadily declined to virtually nothing by the end of 2024, which is when a few months ago she retired from YouTube. She was like, I'm done. Yeah. She was only getting a couple thousand views a video.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
And in that video where she retires, she talks about how she's become a mother and she wants to focus on that. And obviously, that's a completely valid reason. First of all, you don't need a valid reason to stop posting on YouTube. In fact, we should all probably stop posting on YouTube. So good for her. But it's way easier to leave something when it isn't really much of a thing at all.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
And it was clear by the end, if at any point, that she was not really making much money.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
Oh my God. I can really see it. The eyebrows. I will say this. Last night when I was getting ready to record today, I was watching some of her videos. And to do that faster, I was listening to them in two times speed. And when you listen to her in two times speed, she acts like her brother. Can I show an example?
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
Oh, yeah, that's him. That's him. All right. You know, there's Ben. There's Ben.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
Yeah. People were pretty gross about her.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
I just remember seeing classically Abby's views dwindle. And the very naive conclusion that I came to was like, you know, the internet and social media is just full of young progressive people. And there just isn't room for a right-wing influencer like her to because nobody wants to hear this shit about dressing modestly.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
And I think I was right that mostly nobody wants to hear this shit about dressing modestly. But I was very, very wrong about the young internet not having room for right wing influencers. Obviously, now the biggest influencers on social media helped Trump get elected. But it's just, it's not a Phyllis Schlafly type. They're not anti-sex. And the thing is, a lot of them are grifters now.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
Moira, before we started recording, you said that you have been following this Ashley St. Clair Elon new child debacle ravenously. Would you like to share any insights?
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
You know, the biggest stars in right-wing social media are willing to adapt to whatever the thing is that they have to say, whether that be about trans people or Elon Musk or immigrants or pronouns or whatever. Right. Whereas like classically Abby, just like it seems like very earnestly believes in like the value of like wearing like maxi dresses or whatever.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
We've been talking a lot about Tradwives. I've been talking a lot about Tradwives on this podcast lately. And the thing is, Abby Shapiro, I think was making like actual Tradwife content. Like she was actually talking earnestly about like wearing sweaters and staying home and raising children.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
In a way that didn't have the flair and style and honestly, like oftentimes campiness that we see from a lot of successful Tried Wife influencers now. Which speaking of this sort of Tried Wife content, in contrast with Classically Abby, I want to send you guys a tweet and get your reaction to it. So this is a tweet from a right wing influencer called Elijah Schaefer.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
who tweeted this video of a woman with the caption, this type of content awakens in a man something so primal, not even an OnlyFans model in lingerie could compete.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
To me, it's like classically Abby was like the actual trad wife. And no one actually cares about that because it's not fun or interesting to watch. And then this is like the pornified trad wife.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
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A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
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A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
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A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
So classically Abby kind of fizzled out and for whatever it's worth, I hope she's having fun being a mother and wearing her beige sweaters. Good for her. But the biggest right wing influencer women today, they resemble Hawk Tua a lot more than they do classically Abby in their approach to sexual politics. Because they aren't really conservative, at least not in the way that Abby was.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
Do you guys remember how Hoctua became kind of like a right wing thing?
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
yeah i can say that they're not though they kind of are because i will say not sorry not to cut you off but it's like they do think about gay sex a lot because they're always yes yelling at me about it like anytime i say something they find disagreeable about anything i always get a million tweet mentions that are like yeah well how does it feel going home and sucking cock at night and i'm like first of all fine thanks for asking second of all why are you thinking about it
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
Ashley is perhaps best known for her anti-trans children's book called Elephants Are Not Birds, which, you guessed it, is about a young elephant who is tricked into thinking he can become a bird. Elephants Are Not Birds is published by Brave Books, a right-wing book publisher that, quote, "...partners with people of moral integrity to teach complex Christian and conservative values."
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
Yeah. Wow. Clock that Adrian. Yeah. no one who is having, who is engaging in a healthy sex life, just going to go out and say it, talks about sex the way that these like, especially right-wing male influencers talk about sex on Twitter.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
100,000%. And that's why actually at the top of my outline here, I put a picture of Phyllis Schlafly, who you listeners unaware, she was like this second wave anti-feminist. Like she was all about like, we don't need the Equal Rights Amendment. Women can be liberated through work in the home. And she dressed exactly like how you think she would dress.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
She dressed like how classically Abby aspires to dress. She's wearing these like
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
buttoned up coats to the top and she honestly just looks like a you know well put together like dowdy old white lady similar to like nancy reagan or any of the sort of like models of conservative femininity of that era and it's in stark contrast to like you said the kimberly gulf oils and the melania trumps who are distinctly almost like pornified
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
And it's like, like there was work being put in. Oh, yeah.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
100%. And I feel like a lot of what we're saying ties into Wow, this entire podcast is just held together by bad tweets. Thank you, Ian Miles Chong. Like you were saying, Adrian, it's like so much of this like sexual aggression that I feel like we're now seeing on the right is framed as like a backlash to like, I guess the woke puritanical anti sex left.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
Which is such a weird perversion of everybody's beliefs.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
We don't have time today to explain who Ian Miles Chong is. That is a different episode. Let me know if you want it. But honestly, I don't even know if I do. But Ian Miles Chong, this like right wing Twitter influencer, friend of Elon Musk, tweeted this video of like a football cheerleader.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
Okay, work, Moira. Come on.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
Well, I think it's pretty clear that Ian Miles Chong does not necessarily have a rich life outside of Twitter, but it is interesting that these, these ideas that these kind of like terminally online, weird right-wing internet gremlins make about like, oh yeah, I'm actually the underdog for thinking that a Dallas Cowboys cheerleader is sexy and,
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
how that trickles into mainstream attitudes within the right today.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
You're still being oppressed by that one Dylan Mulvaney Instagram Bud Light video.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
Something that I put in here under this Ian Miles Chong tweet about the cheerleader being hot is it's just like between this, the Hawk Tua thing, this, I think what you said about Dave Portnoy being the successor to the Hugh Hefner throne, which is true. You have this idea that on the right now, there is this like... sexual politic of domination.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
But simultaneously, like they still are the party policy wise of, you know, being anti contraception, anti abortion, by virtue of these things, anti recreational sex. And it's like, how can you be the party of sex and fun and young, beautiful people and also have all of those policies? Like, I guess for me, I'm like, Are people not seeing the contradictions here?
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
Are people just buying into the vibes and not looking at what the policies are? Where does that shake out?
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
You are mixing up our conservative influencers. Classically, Ashley St. Clair.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
Also, just like you can just claim that like anything you've been accused of as insofar as like sexual predation or anything like that. You could just claim that there's a witch hunt against you and that the media is out to get you and that you're a martyr for the right wing cause and cancel culture and like they'll rescue you out of the trenches with a podcasting deal.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
Yes. Big win for the community there. So I have a couple of wrap-up questions here that will maybe help us tie this up with a bow. Maybe not. We'll see. But what I wrote is, if Republicans are no longer the party of traditional family values, which... I think anybody would be very hard pressed to say that they are. Then socially and culturally speaking, like, what are they the party of?
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
And also, was the family values thing always a smokescreen and now they've just given up on it?
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
I want to make my last little follow-up here. It's just that in the 2024 election, so many groups shifted more to the right with how they voted, and women, by and large, were among those groups. You described that the politics of sexual domination used to be stylized through this purity culture, where it's now being stylized through this, like, we must have as much sex as men want culture.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
And how maybe now that the purity culture has been stripped away, that women might feel more freed by that style change. But I always like to end this podcast on like, here's what you should take away and like, perhaps to a voting booth with you. I think you would argue that women have not been freed by this change. And perhaps Ashley St. Clair could be the tragic mascot of that.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
No, 100%. I mean, it's like, I have a joke that's going to cheapen this so much.
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The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
But I always have to end on a chuckle. But it's like, you literally, no one is being freed by the insistence that you spit on that thing. We need to imagine a world where we have the choice to spit on that thing or not spit on that thing and be liberated by that choice.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
I had sex for three and a half minutes, and all I got was this stupid T-shirt.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
You learned a lot? Oh, my God. The two of you are so brilliant. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for being here. I choose these episode topics by just, you know, my little cultural fixations that oftentimes I feel like I can't answer. And so I go looking for people who have a better handle on at least how to think about answering those questions than I do. And The two of you are just brilliant.
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The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
If you who are listening to this want more of Moira and Adrian, you should definitely go listen to their podcast, In Bed With The Right. It'll be linked in the description. And I'm so happy that you chose to listen to this podcast today. I hope that you are doing whatever you need to do to take care of yourself because we all need to see each other make it to the other side of this. And we will.
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I love you so much. And until next time, stay fruity.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
Yeah, when Elon made that sole contribution to the conversation around his, you know, alleged 13th child when he just wrote, whoa. Ashley St. Clair, did you guys see what she responded in a tweet? Maura saw this.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
And so on Valentine's Day, just a few days ago, Ashley St. Clair's announcement to the world was this. Moira, would you like to read it so we can get like a woman?
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
Okay, wait. Do a dramatic reading, please. Elon, we have been trying to communicate for the past several days and you have not responded. When are you going to reply to us instead of publicly responding to smears from an individual who just posted photos of me in underwear at 15 years old? Notably, after like, I don't even think a day. This tweet was deleted.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
And so I think what you can infer from that was that there was some sort of back channel agreement between Elon Musk's team and whoever was representing Ashley St. Clair to have her take this down. Would you say that's probable?
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
Moira, what you said is true. She's tragic.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
Well, the whole, I mean, did you see that Julianne Moore's book? Julianne Moore, the actress, she co-authored a children's book about a seven-year-old girl with freckles who hates her freckles and then learns that because they make her different and unique, they make her special and good.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
And this is currently under review and in the process of being taken out of libraries in military schools by the Department of Defense. They want to replace that with books like this that just tell you like, actually, you can't achieve your dreams. It's not even about being transgender. It's like you cannot imagine. You cannot imagine a world of difference.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
You can't aspire to anything because it's all in service of trying to create this like monoculture and it's just so fascist.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
Yeah, it's just beating young people into submission, which like, I don't know, like, we're all gay here. Right, Maura, you're gay?
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
Yeah, we're all gay. We're all gay here. Like, I feel like growing up as a gay kid, you know exactly what it's like to be beat into submission. And they just want to do that to the, you know, most extreme level. It's not even enough to be straight. You have to be like a million other things as well.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
Wait, if sex lasts longer than three minutes, then it's gay?
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
I did it, Ashley. I did it, Ashley. So I wanted to make this episode in tandem with other recent episodes I've made about the sort of cultural rebrand of the Republican Party, I think, especially as it's become the Trump Party. You know, political parties aren't static in policy or cultural branding. They're amorphous. This has been my take, at least.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
You know, Republicans were famously the party that ended slavery, as they so often love to tout as a party accomplishment. Even though the political parties have realigned across so many different lines since then, that that's just basically meaningless posturing at this point. Obviously, Republicans have become the white nationalist party.
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right
Democrats, on the other hand, have gone from just, you know, eight to 10 years ago, having the slogan, no human being is illegal to we are tougher on the border than Republicans are. These are all just groups of people trying to accrue power and willing to rebrand as they see fit.
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This was an uncle of a player. Okay. Uncles. Yeah. Uncles get serious at 8U softball. Okay. They get fucking irate. And now we're like picking up the pieces. And I became a celebrity at that tournament for all the wrong reasons that day. Yeah. That's huge. So did you guys lose the next game? You guys, I'm going to be really honest. We kicked the shit out of the next team. Wow.
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Armchair Anonymous: Little League/Coaching
And then we went home for the night. And then the adrenaline went away. And we came back the next day and got thumped. Yeah. But we finished fourth in state, which was great. I will tell you the core memory of these girls is not fourth in state. It's Coach Matt in the dirt. What did your daughter think of all this? So my daughter, thankfully, she had her back to me when I got hit.
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Armchair Anonymous: Little League/Coaching
So she had a lot of questions about why would someone get so mad about a Little League game?
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Yeah, yeah. Hard to answer.
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We went to Zoom traffic court, basically. He had come to terms with his mistake and pled guilty. Oh, good. He could have gotten some jail time, I think, but they pled him out with some money, a lot of community service, anger management. I hope that sticks.
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Armchair Anonymous: Little League/Coaching
He had never been arrested for cold-cocking somebody. He'd been arrested for other things. Okay. Mm-hmm.
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Armchair Anonymous: Little League/Coaching
If he had gotten to the umpire, I think that probably gets pretty ugly, right?
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Armchair Anonymous: Little League/Coaching
It's not like she was even out there in, like, ump gear. She was out there in shorts and a t-shirt. This was, like, her warm-up. Like, do I want to go be an umpire and get paid on the weekends when I'm not playing competitive travel softball myself? And the next day, she showed back up. Like, she was there. Now, her mom came with her the next day. And I think I probably would have, too. Oh, boy.
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Armchair Anonymous: Little League/Coaching
What's fascinating to me is I played competitive sports growing up forever. So I've been in this for 35 years. I've never seen that. I've seen some crazy. I've seen guys throw buckets of balls on the field. And I've seen guys get thrown out for arguing balls and strikes and dropping F-bombs and saying inappropriate things to umpires.
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But I've never seen someone go on to a field and chase down an umpire. That's next level crazy. And I blame participation trophies. Ha! Everybody thinks they deserve to win. It's like, come on, you got to lose. That's part of the game.
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Armchair Anonymous: Little League/Coaching
Thank you for having me. I appreciate it. I'm sorry I got tagged too. I think at the end of the day, we're glad I was the one that got hit.
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I just, I think, was always really good at evading the right hook, and this time I just was ill-prepared for it. Right. All right, well, great meeting you. Thanks for telling us that story, Matt.
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I have to do a little bit of podcasting for my job, but yeah, they hooked us up with some sweet gear. Yeah, you sound phenomenal. Maybe even better than us.
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Are you recording? I am recording. We're set. Matt, you're on top of it. Are you an overachiever? Sometimes. My wife would tell you I need to slow down.
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Armchair Anonymous: Little League/Coaching
Where are you at? I am in the western suburbs of Minneapolis, Minnesota. Oh, we love Minneapolis.
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Yeah, good guys. Oh, and this story is all about Minnesota Nice, let me tell you. Oh, wonderful. Tell us, set the scene. It's pretty raw because it just happened. It happened in June. It takes place at my daughter's eight and under machine pitch, fast pitch softball game.
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In Minnesota, we use this funky blue spring-loaded arm, and you'll put the ball in, and you pull this little lever, and it shoots the ball in at about 35 miles an hour.
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Yeah, and there's a little bit of skill to it. We have a couple coaches who put on a little tutorial, and they teach you how to do it. And the ball will go everywhere. If you put the ball in wrong or it's wet, next thing you know, you're putting it into the girl's ear.
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Armchair Anonymous: Little League/Coaching
It is terrible sometimes. It just really depends about the user. There's a spring. So if the spring goes bad, if there's a wind, I feel like it's bad. The point of me saying it's machine pitch, though, is like this is entry level softball. Nobody's getting the full ride tomorrow. We're learning how to throw the ball, catch the ball, where to throw the ball, all those pieces. Last question.
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Is it co-ed or just girls only? Girls only. This is girls fast pitch softball. So my daughter has been playing now for a few years since she was like five. And now she's going on 10, but she'd been in machine pitch for a couple of years. And this year was unique because she wanted to try out for an A-level team. So like an advanced team.
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When you sign your player up, you check the box to be a parent volunteer. I always do that. I loved a coach. I've been a head coach. I've been an assistant. So I always check the box. And this year I got to be head coach of an A team. There's some differences. One, the players actually give a damn. They want to play. They love practice. And they really want to win.
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The parents are in the same place. They may want to win a little bit more than their player sometimes. I've been very fortunate. Our parents were great people. I didn't ever really get that vibe. But some of the teams we've played, mom and dad are living vicariously through their eight-year-old. Oh, God. Okay. So it's a Saturday morning.
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We're an A team playing in the top tier of the Minnesota State Tournament.
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When you play AU, everybody makes it to the state tournament.
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But we're in the tier one, which was shocking to me because I wouldn't say we won a lot of games. All right. Everybody gets ranked and they have some weird algorithm and I don't really understand it. But they're going to rank these eight-year-old girls and we're like the 15th seed out of 20 in tier one.
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And if you follow March Madness in a bracket, you know, the bottom seeds are going to play the top seeds. So we're going to play a team that has won more than they've lost. In fact, I don't know if they had lost more than like three or four games.
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Yeah. In fact, the first team we played for the season beat us by one run. They went undefeated the rest of the year. Oh, So we get into this tournament, and it's a Saturday morning. It's beautiful. We have a 9 a.m. game time. Before the game, we met with the umpire at home plate. You know, it's both coaches, a couple players from the team, and the umpire's walking us through the rules.
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And there's some key rules for AU softball. You can't advance on an overthrow. Girls can't run extra bases on ground balls that are fielded in the infield. So really, the game is kind of a checkers match, and they go one base at a time. Okay. Unless you've got girls who are like 5'6", and they say they're 8 or 9, but they might be 11, and they're hitting bombs to left center.
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They walked us through that you could have a couple coaches in the field. We had a 70-minute time limit. The kicker is the umpire who's walking us through this is holding the rule book because she's 13 years old. Uh-oh. No.
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And this is her first game. Uh-oh. That's a lot of pressure.
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She's on the umpire track. Welcome to the Thunderdome. You know, it's like, holy shit. Here you go. Good luck. So we get into it. I'll just fast forward to the fourth inning. We're winning seven to nothing. We had a girl backhand a ball and throw it from third base to first on a line. And she had never done that in her life. Wow. We were on fire. So there's some run limits too.
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In AU, you can only score five runs an inning. When you get into the fourth inning of a five inning game, you start doing some math and you're like, oh, if we score four runs, this game's over. So I tell our coaches and our coaches are like, great, here we go. And we went out and just wet the bed. And we went one, two, three. We get through four innings, seven to three.
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We go in to the fifth inning. We have now run out of time. All the other games are letting out and the teams that are playing next on our field are warming up in the outfield and all their fans are coming in. So we have a crowd and it's getting heated. Oh. And as they start to score, things start coming out of their mouths. Like they don't deserve to win.
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Typically you hear them coach each other's kids up, but now they're coming at my players. So all of a sudden it's seven to six. There's two outs and the bases are low. In the bottom of the last inning, we have an audience. This girl comes up and hits a BB at my third baseman, who thankfully was probably our best player on the team. She was a stud and she misplays it. And it bounces off of her knee.
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She fields it. She gets to third base, steps on the bag, beats the girl. And I'm thinking, game's over. And the umpire, 13-year-old girl, calls her safe. Uh-oh. Oh, no. Wait, was she just at a disadvantaged viewing spot? I'll get to it here in just a second. Oh, okay, okay, okay. My wife would tell you I jumped about 14 feet in the air and yelled no at the top of my lungs.
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I did not argue with the umpire. She's 13. They're going to miss the call. And we didn't have umpires all season. Mostly coaches called the games because it's beginner softball. So who gives a fuck?
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Armchair Anonymous: Little League/Coaching
Nobody lies here, right? Yeah. I start running to third base because I got to check on this girl. Both of my coaches out in the field now huddle the girls up because based on what has happened, the game's tied seven to seven and they can win it with one more run because they can score five in an inning and that'll be their fifth.
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I have another coach who asked the umpire, can you just clarify what you saw? And the umpire said, oh yeah, your third baseman beat her to the bag, but she had to tag her. And our manager coach goes, why? It was bases loaded. And the umpire like has this aha moment and she goes, you are a hundred percent right. And she announces very loudly, coaches, I'm reversing my call. The runner's out.
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I'm like, it's a force out. The game is over. And she goes, you're right. Coaches, line them up. Game's over.
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So now she's changed the call.
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You're right. And I'm like, great, line it up. And the fans in the other stands have gone ape shit. Oh, wow. And they are screaming at the 13-year-old girl. Like, they are letting her have it.
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How dare you? You can't do that. You're not allowed to change calls. You're such a bitch. Oh, stop it. They're calling your names. They're like, how the fuck could you do this to us? They are lighting her up. The parents are screaming at our girls. Oh, boy. They're now also telling the girls, don't line up. Shake their hands.
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These girls are cheaters. They're liars. They don't deserve it. Our girls are hearing this and the tears are rolling. Oh, no. This guy comes screaming through our dugout, making a straight line for the umpire. He's charging at the 13-year-old girl. What the fuck? Oh, my God. What the fuck? People lose themselves. One of our coaches sees this and he steps in immediately.
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Armchair Anonymous: Little League/Coaching
And this guy's like 6'2", 220. Okay. And the guy's onto the field yelling, fuck you, you bitch. I have words for you. You fucking ruined our season. He's going off on her. Right. My coach gets in between him and her at about the first base bag. Our girls are sobbing. And my other coaches are now like put their heads together and like bear hug them.
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Armchair Anonymous: Little League/Coaching
And they're like giving them positive love and affirmation. You know, they're like, you're great. You're beautiful. Gosh darn it. People like, you know. Meanwhile, I'm listening to this assistant coach who's like my brother. I'm listening to his voice go up and up and louder. And I'm like, this is getting bad. And I look and this guy's like poking him in the chest.
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Armchair Anonymous: Little League/Coaching
The angry dad's poking your buddy. Yep. Except he's not a dad. We didn't know that yet. And he shoves my assistant coach. And I watch like the slow motion of his arms cocking back to like light this guy up. And I go running. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Get out of here. You need to go get our girls lined up. I've got this.
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Armchair Anonymous: Little League/Coaching
And now I'm face to face with the angry citizen who wants to crush this umpire. Pretty sure I heard the C word at one point. Oh, wow. It was unbelievable. And I'm like hurting him off the field like he's a cow. And I'm like, sir, you have to quit cussing. I need you off the field. And he's screaming at me like at an 11. So I'm talking to him at like a three. My wife hates me for it.
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Armchair Anonymous: Little League/Coaching
I do it all the time. Yeah, yeah. So I'm like talking to this guy and I think I've got him calmed down. And all of a sudden I'm like arms out. I'm ushering him off. He goes, don't you dare fucking touch me. And boom, right under my left eye. No. He throws a punch. Throws a punch. Now, I did not know I was in a boxing match.
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Armchair Anonymous: Little League/Coaching
I've never been punched before, and I would say it was a good punch. It wasn't the best punch, but he got me. He tagged you. He surprised the shit out of me.
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Armchair Anonymous: Little League/Coaching
All of that. I mean, I'm on the ground. I look over, the girls are still sobbing, and now they're really freaked out. Yes. Coach Matt just got put on his ass. This is so traumatic. I know. Coach Matt is on the ground, looking around, dazed and totally confused. And our fans obviously erupted. And it's the state tournament, so it's aunts, uncles, grandparents. Wow.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Little League/Coaching
But other teams had made their way listening to what was going on. So now there's coaches from other teams and they're chasing this guy out. Meanwhile, I'm sitting in a pile of dirt and I look at one of our parents and I said, did that guy just fucking punch me? And she goes, yeah, he did. And I'm talking to the police right now. Oh. So 911 gets called. Now other teams players are sobbing.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Little League/Coaching
Oh boy. They've seen it. It's become like a crime right here on this field. So this guy and his girlfriend tried to flee the scene. We had parents that had to sit on the bumper of this car. Then we had to look at our players and say, okay, you just won. You have to go play again. I'm like, good luck. Use this energy. Oh my God. I mean, they were a mess. Half the girls wanted to quit.
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Armchair Anonymous: Little League/Coaching
We have players from other teams that wanted to quit. And now I'm like, somebody's got to clean the dugout because I've got to go talk to the police for the next 45 minutes and press charges because you don't get to do this. You don't get to behave like that on the field. The worst part I think about it too was that the other coaches never came and checked on us. They denied knowing this guy.
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It's not just a faceless city. Yeah. You've seen so many people talk about how much they love Altadena. Yeah. And I think that they are the city. So the houses may be gone, but they'll bring them back and they'll keep the city. When I heard you lost your house, I just felt like desperate to do something for you.
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It's so hard to know how much to offer to people in this situation because you feel some, they must be bombarded with this. Are they being overloaded? But anything you would ever need, I think people, all your friends would be desperate to help you guys in any way. Yeah.
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We can just go buy it. And am I not wrong, a kettlebell is the most likely to survive a fire. Yeah, that's why he's like, my kettlebell probably survived.
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My neighbor saw The Shining before I did and told me about it, recounted it, and completely lied about it. And then when I saw it, was just forever wondering where. He said that Jack Nicholson got his arm cut off, and you know how a human can grow an arm back. He grows an arm back and all this stuff. And I just was expecting— Was this a kid? It was a kid, yeah. It was my age.
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
Ryan Reynolds
It doesn't change anything. It doesn't change anything. It's impressive what you did. Yeah.
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
Ryan Reynolds
You didn't leave the pause. We talked about this last episode.
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
Ryan Reynolds
I understand. And I should have told you literally seven years ago when we started this podcast. He was 15.
Father Knows Something
148: Father Knows.. Romance
Yeah, there's more than six months notice for you changing your plan. So I wouldn't think that it would be way too short of notice for other people to change their plans. I am surprised a little bit by your answer, though, because you were kind of the one who is pushing for the fancier, bigger wedding for us. And you have said that you don't regret it.
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148: Father Knows.. Romance
And that it was the best, one of the best days of your life. And you really enjoy that memory. And it was worth it, is what you have also told me.
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148: Father Knows.. Romance
I think it's even more for the average wedding these days.
Father Knows Something
148: Father Knows.. Romance
Well, the diamond popped out of my ring even before we were married. We'd been engaged.
Father Knows Something
148: Father Knows.. Romance
like maybe six months or something and it fell out one day and I think that I like to think someday it will the world will return it back to me or it's in Lake Superior I think it might actually be in Lake Superior because I took the dogs for a walk that day with the leashes around my my hand and I think it popped the whole setting out so I think it's somewhere in Lake Superior wow that's a big place to look treasure hunt everybody yes
Father Knows Something
148: Father Knows.. Romance
Yes, and they'll support you in it because the most important thing is that the two of you are getting married.
Father Knows Something
148: Father Knows.. Romance
Well, I think that the decision to have kids or not have kids is huge. And if you are really firm in... I mean, she must be really firm in her decision and feel very comfortable in that decision to not have kids because she's looked into having her tubes tied. Then... Your partner needs to be on board.
Father Knows Something
148: Father Knows.. Romance
I think that it's going to be a wedge in your relationship moving forward if you if you continue to do that and is only going to drive you further apart if you continue to have different thought processes about it.
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So now that you I think you're at a crossroads. I think that decisions need to be made sooner rather than later so that you aren't a placeholder. If you are firm and clear and like, yep, I'm not going to change my mind. I think having that conversation with him and saying, here's how it is and leaving it to be like, okay, are you completely okay with that?
Father Knows Something
148: Father Knows.. Romance
Do you feel at peace and calm with not having kids? If that's something that's really important to him, then I think that they should end things and that she should move on to find someone who's on the same page.
Father Knows Something
148: Father Knows.. Romance
And if he all of a sudden is like, yep, I want them, but I'm going to give that up for you. I also think that that's a red flag because further down the road, resentment will pop up. I think that's why I was like, he needs to have peace in his soul.
Father Knows Something
148: Father Knows.. Romance
I think rarely counseling is a bad thing. If they want to, I think it could be helpful.
Father Knows Something
148: Father Knows.. Romance
Yeah. The thing I was thinking the whole time was, and she even said it, that it's more of a reflection on him. All of this is a reflection on him and not a reflection on her. And maybe that will help her feel a little bit better and move forward. The fact that he is moved on and is dating someone else so soon and so quickly. I mean, maybe she's right that he just...
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148: Father Knows.. Romance
isn't good at being alone and fears being alone you know maybe there was a little bit of an emotional affair even before moving on with and starting to date this other person like it sounded like their relationship was kind of on again off again and kind of fizzling out towards the end so maybe without even meaning to that happened and at the beginning of a relationship
Father Knows Something
148: Father Knows.. Romance
Because she mentioned how much he's changed and is louder and bubbly and whatever. Might be a little bit of the honeymoon stage of things. And just kind of acknowledging it is what it is, but it has no reflection on her whatsoever. That, yep, they just didn't work out. He moved on. That's a reflection on him, not you. And what are you going to do with your life now moving forward?
Father Knows Something
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And how are you going to respond to that situation is what you need to be focusing on. So how are you going to continue to show up in your group with your friends, doing the things that you love to do, put your passion into the things that you love to do, and focusing on yourself in this point in time? I think that's where you're going to find the greatest reward.
Father Knows Something
148: Father Knows.. Romance
And taking some space from them within the group, I think, is fine, right? You don't have to be best buddies. You don't have to be like... hanging out at their end of the table, you know, hang out on the other end of the table for now.
Father Knows Something
148: Father Knows.. Romance
Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Like you can still go, you don't have to be best buddies with them, but just focus on the other things that you love from that club and your other friends that you're hanging out with.
Father Knows Something
148: Father Knows.. Romance
You're never going to go wrong, though, focusing on yourself as far as helping you grow into the best person you can be.
Father Knows Something
148: Father Knows.. Romance
Well, I mean, whatever. Then she'd really have to see him all the time, though.
Father Knows Something
148: Father Knows.. Romance
Just jokes. I do also think that the more time you give it, the easier it will be.
Father Knows Something
148: Father Knows.. Romance
Jesus Christ on a motorbike. He's got an ear problem. How's your tinnitus going?
Father Knows Something
148: Father Knows.. Romance
Ever. Ever. Yeah, I really agree. I think that especially if you had it in the beginning, I don't think it's like just gone and lost, especially after like such a short period of time you've been friends for so long. If you had that spark, right? Because they did. They were like, yes, we're going to give it a go. And the... They felt in love at that period of time.
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And now they're just like, oh, I don't know if it's there anymore. Right? That was the kind of the scenario. I wonder if just more time will tell and that you just need to communicate and And I really like that, like, look for what's missing in the relationship. If it's something big, something little. And then chase, you know, after that together and see if that kind of returns.
Father Knows Something
148: Father Knows.. Romance
Because there's going to be ups and downs in a relationship, right? It's not always going to be sunshine and butterflies. But it does seem to, like, kind of cycle a little bit sometimes. Yeah.
Father Knows Something
148: Father Knows.. Romance
Or maybe they just need to find out what is that something that needs to connect them again? Like what brings them together?
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Movies on the couch? Is it romantic dinners? Is it going on a vacation or mountain biking? Bedroom activities. Sure, bedroom activities. And then try to, you know, nurture that connection because gardens grow when you water it.
Father Knows Something
148: Father Knows.. Romance
That was a roller coaster. There were ups and downs. I was like, oh, yay, oh, no. Oh, yay, oh, no. Wow. Yeah, that is for sure a tough situation.
Father Knows Something
148: Father Knows.. Romance
Yeah, Jerry said, this is your wedding gift. It's the only one you get. If you don't want to do it, there's nothing else. That's it. So we said, okay, we'll do it. And it was a lot of fun.
Father Knows Something
148: Father Knows.. Romance
I'm a firm believer in right person, right time, right place. That was at least what was very true for us. We had dated since we were quite young, but it was never one of those things never really lined up until we were in our older 20s. And we actually were long distance for two years throughout my schooling. Matt actually wanted to move with me to PA school and I told him, nope, can't.
Father Knows Something
148: Father Knows.. Romance
So it seems like they just need to explore this a little bit more, dive deeper into themselves, figure out if it was a real thing to begin with, if it's something that can come back.
Father Knows Something
148: Father Knows.. Romance
Nice. And Jerry, thank you so much for having us, not only in your home in California, but on the podcast. Lots of fun.
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148: Father Knows.. Romance
You got to stay behind here because I need to like really focus on doing this. And didn't honestly didn't want any distractions from that because that was my number one priority. So for us, that long distance was actually really, really good because all we could do is communicate. Right. And so you really learn how to best communicate when that's all you have.
Father Knows Something
148: Father Knows.. Romance
So that program was a 27 month long program. By the end of that, I was like, I cannot do this for any much more period of time. So I do think if you're going to do long distance, like there needs to be an end date. Like how long are you going to be doing the long distance for? What's the ultimate goal where you are going to be together?
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148: Father Knows.. Romance
So then that's the whole huge wrench that comes into it. Before we knew about baby on the way, it seemed like all three of those things were going to line up, or at least the two things, right? But then with the baby coming, that's going to be so many changes for him. I wonder if it's not quite the right time anymore. And so I would say, let him have this time while you're figuring things out.
Father Knows Something
148: Father Knows.. Romance
Well, I think that would be up to her. Like be a part or to be a part of the circle.
Father Knows Something
148: Father Knows.. Romance
Yeah. I think at this point, remain friends. I don't know that I would put the pressure of a long distance relationship on top of everything else. But giving him that space and support and then seeing where the time goes and seeing if other things happen for her along the way, too.
I've Had It
Our Best Gays Are Ahead of Us
I have fucking had it. with people who get dogs keep them for a year maybe half of a year maybe a couple years and then they're like this is such a hard decision we need to find him a home that can give him the time and attention he deserves motherfucker then don't get one in the fucking first place i'm sorry but like Think about it before you get one.
I've Had It
Our Best Gays Are Ahead of Us
They're not just going to, they're not just ornaments. They don't just sit at your house and stare at the wall all day. Like they need time and attention. So don't get one. If you're going to be like, give them to a home that can give them the time and attention they deserve. Fuck you. Because we are their whole world.
Know Thyself
E139 - Lewis Howes: The Secret to Unlocking Real Abundance (It’s Not What You Think)
I mean, just thinking about this last month, well,
Know Thyself
E139 - Lewis Howes: The Secret to Unlocking Real Abundance (It’s Not What You Think)
And the three things that I did early on was, well, there was three fears that I started to overcome.
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Sounds positive so far.
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He's so good at handling stuff like this.
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You too. Yeah. Okay, we're going to leave that all in. Yeah, no, that was really good because I was sort of narrating to the readers like exactly how well you're a communicator. How would you rate that interaction? That was a 10 out of 10. Really? I love the dulcet tones that you spoke in. Thank you. And I am recording a podcast, so if you could leave it outside the door. Thank you so much.
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You were giving Selena Gomez wrapped in the blanket asking for, you know what I mean? That meme. That's actually the best meme. Selena Gomez wrapped in like, what is that? Like an Adirondack blanket. Yes. Just a gorgeous big knit. The best one that, because it was like, this is me when I, the best was when I calmly asked the flight attendant for a ginger ale after waking up on the plane.
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Did Becca just put it in?
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Honestly, this picture of her and us is the image for this episode. This is exactly the vibe right now. Oh, yeah. This is Selena wrapped in this blanket and then us with our heads wrapped in this blanket. Tell Spencer, who, by the way, people have been asking about who's been crushing our graphic design. It has not been the very busy Bo and Yang. It has been Spencer. Also very busy.
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Not that Bo and Yang couldn't also tear down these graphic designs, but we have been truly blessed by the team.
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Now, so you saw Meredith Marks.
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Join hosts Austin Hankowitz and Janice Torres as they talk to small business owners about how they've grown and maintained their businesses.
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I think we have to leave that in. We have to leave that in.
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Oh, my God. What do you guys think about Bronwyn? Like already.
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I mean, I was watching an interview with Bozema last night, who, by the way, I've grown to really like. I like Bozema. I love Bozema. And I think it's like really, really, she brings so much to the show. And also heartbreaking, her home burned down in the fires. In Malibu, yes. So all the best to anyone who's still struggling, by the way. Like, damn.
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But I was watching an interview with her and she was like, you know, I did it because X, Y, Z reasons. And then she was like, my one thing was I really didn't realize it was going to be so real, but the relationships are very real. And sure, the show is produced in terms of like, They nudge you in terms of things to bring up or whatever.
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But the stuff that all goes into the conflict for the episodes is real and all based in real stuff. And when you are arguing with someone, that's a real argument. It's not like you get off screen and high five and are like... You know, tee hee hee, we really ate that scene. It's like, oh, we just had an actual conflict that was captured for everyone.
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And she was saying that that was the big realization from her time on the show. So Lisa Barlow strolling down, even the Queen of Sundance has in the back of her mind, like... Her conflict with Bronwyn. Right. Bronwyn is top of mind for her. On a week like this. Well, you want to know why? It's because I thought last week, Lisa and Bronwyn was tough. Really tough.
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Because honestly, even if you're not a big Bronwyn fan, I think one storyline where she was incredibly sympathetic and my heart really did break for her was when she shared... the story of the background of Gwen's parentage. So she has a daughter, Gwen, and she got pregnant out of wedlock with a very Mormon baby daddy.
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And the father and the mother of him basically didn't accept her, basically just tough Mormon stuff with the child coming. And she was 19, Becker reminds us. And so it's been a very, very, very difficult relationship. Gwen's father doesn't know her because he's passed away since. Wow, as I'm reminding myself as I'm saying this, it gets even darker. But anyway, guys, please give me grace.
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Remember, it's 7 a.m. But it's a tough situation. And Lisa is... Somehow finding herself in the middle of it. And I think that all Bronwyn was really wanting in that reunion exchange was just for Lisa to acknowledge the fact that Gwen's feelings had been hurt by Lisa in regards to all this. And Lisa just couldn't do that.
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So Lisa Barlow was out and about. I know I saw Heather Gay in some photos. Yeah. Well, Heather Gay and Steven and our friend Steven Sambari were hanging out, having a grand old time.
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People don't even realize that. It's like impossible to get into shit.
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I believe. Well, I'm ready to give my review of The Wedding Banquet. No, no. This movie could have been better. No, no, no. It had all the elements, and I'm really disappointed. I won't be able to support it in theaters. I'm sorry, Matthew. I understand. I won't be able to support it.
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Oh my God. We do at some point need a reading of the ask that you sent to the housewives.
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I mean, this is yet another Bowen Yang deleted scene. Oh my goodness. You might be the legend of the cutting room floor.
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Featurette culture, yeah.
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I'm going to say this right now. There's one film that we both love that had amazing DVD features. And I think this movie, if you really boil it down to DVD culture and when it was at its peak. Yes. This movie is peak DVD culture. And we're going to say it on three together. No, I don't know. I don't know what you mean. I'm going to say it, and you're going to wish that you had rolled the dice.
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I'm going to count down. Three, two, one. Charlie's Angels.
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First of all, Charlie's Angels. No, because Charlie's Angels full throttle was a few years later.
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I knew you knew. Why did I ever doubt myself? I love you. Love you back. I mean, I'm just saying that I knew you knew.
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Mm-hmm. Because it's not like a movie where you can go check it out later. You got to see this stuff while it happens. So gut out, support theater, and improve your culture.
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When it all comes together, all these things, you can expect love to grow. And that's good, because the wedding should all be about that. Creating an atmosphere and an environment where love can, what's the word? Flourish.
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Charlie's Angels special feature is the first one, especially because, like, the way the fire and the rock music would play. Oh, yeah. God, just the best movies ever. Best movies ever!
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Yes, I did. And I really enjoy Charlie XCX's Letterboxd.
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Yeah, it's so good. I mean, like, it's also like so gorgeously self-aware. I mean, just it's so fun. It exists to be fun, but also the plot is good and the twists are good.
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Yeah, I would deeply, especially because Cameron's now, I guess, out of retirement in some way, fashion. I feel like You know, while we love Drew on her daytime show, it'd be great to see her in the cinema. Absolutely. Lucy's making a comeback. Lucy's always welcome. Yeah. I mean, and also Demi's having the moment.
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Demi did, of course, I don't know, a spoiler alert for Charlie's Angels Full Throttle, but Demi does plummet into a fiery pit. So it would be a lot for her to come back because they really do show her becoming engulfed in flames. But let me tell you something, in the world of Charlie's Angels, crazier things have literally happened. Truly.
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The lion dance? So you're not saying lion dance in like a fun way. You're saying lion dance, like L-I-O-N dance.
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Let's just say it was an incredible feat for them to accomplish, especially because there are not Chinese lanterns hanging in the entire way down there. Like you could. This is the part where you really had to suspend disbelief, Beau. Once you get to the end of Charlie's Angels full throttle, if you hadn't suspended disbelief by now, it's time to start.
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It's seven miles of string lights and just swinging like Spider-Man.
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Really a comment on how bad traffic congestion can be here. Really a comment on that. And a smart comment on that. And a smart, fun comment that we didn't even pick up on until now, all these years later.
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Listen, well, you know, now they're really trying to there's lots of movements now to try to get more production back here because it's kind of ridiculous. I mean, that's what Newsom should do next is we should we should try to figure out. Obviously, this is not as easily said and done. All these tax incentives and tax breaks that all these other states get to shoot. Here's a novel idea.
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How about bringing those to California? Right. Like revitalize, revive the industry here. Again, I don't know shit, but it feels like something where I'm like, you know, a lot saying like, oh, well, it's easy to shoot in Georgia. Oh, well, it's easy to shoot in fucking Canada. Like Pennsylvania saying all these places. I'm like, what? Why can't that be in California?
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Baby got to video village, not video village. I got to, I got to base camp yesterday for my own new project. Can't say yet. Hopefully can say soon. I walked onto a studio lot. It was base camp on a studio lot. And it felt like hooray for Hollywood. And I was getting put into hair and makeup. And actually it's more of a costume than I've done in ever. That's fun.
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And then the tour went by and I was like, Oh, I had a little boy moment where I was like, I feel like I made it. I'm in costume as the tour goes by and I'm on a studio lot and it was fun. And I was like, see, this is the whole Hollywood, California thing. It's literally hooray for Hollywood. The song that plays when you ring my doorbell. That, La Vie en Rose, it's a rotation. That's amazing.
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I love that damn song.
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But wait, one more thing. What's the buzz on Kiss of the Spider Woman?
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I mean, listen, I, All you have to do is say J-Lo is going to be dancing in a Hollywood production and that Bill Condon is doing it. And then I'm kind of there. We'll see. I guess the reviews... Because I've also been reading the reviews. And it seems like a takeaway is... It's obviously two very different movies. If you don't know the story of Kiss of the Spider-Woman...
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She's familiar with the lion dance. Okay, and the Marxists joined in?
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So it's about Argentinian prisoners, and one of them is a openly flamboyantly gay window dresser. And the way he sort of deals with his life is by imagining in his mind Hollywood sequences and big dance numbers that feature his favorite star, La Luna. And that is played by Jennifer Lopez. And so Jennifer Lopez sort of exists as a movie within a movie.
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So these two characters who are undergoing torture and, you know, a very, very, very bleak existence in an Argentinian small prison cell can sort of like escape somewhere, you know, and deal with the trauma of their circumstances. It's really interesting and it's an excellent musical. But as a movie, it feels like a tough adaptation.
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And I think some of the comments are that it obviously feels like two very different movies and one is more enjoyable than the other. But we'll see. Yes. That's just the buzz on the ground.
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What are you coming back so quickly for? Like, what is it that you have to get back for?
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So then at the end of the week, this is where we say we're going to... We're having a Vegas moment. My first Vegas moment since high school. Wow. Yeah. Has it changed? We are having a Vegas moment. And let me tell you something, we are doing it big. We are seeing on Friday night, Shania. On Saturday night, Mariah. Is it Divas Live or what?
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No, no, no. It's not a family thing.
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The first time I ever went was in college. And I remember my dumb basic ass was like, it's like Disney World for adults. which is literally what it is. I got to take you on the roller coaster. I don't know about that.
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All right, we can go shopping. We can definitely go shopping. We can definitely go to the buffet. Oh, yes. We will definitely be going to the shows. We will be on one. I cannot wait.
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Does she think touch my body? She better. I haven't looked at the set list. I'll be shook if she doesn't. I love Touch My Body.
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Jack the Grayer legend in the music video. Unbelievable legend. So we're supposed to do, I think the suggestion is that everyone wear a little glittery something to Mariah and everyone wear a little leopard something to Shania. Ooh, I don't think I have the leopard, but I'll get something together. Why don't you bring your zebra coat that you wore on the red carpet too. I saw your look.
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I saw you were wearing a zebra coat. A Marnie zebra coat. And what were those pants? Purple plaid pants?
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I mean, we said that's what we're going to be this weekend. We will have a full report when we get back. Yep. Let's talk Oscar noms. Okay, so first of all, my big takeaway is that you guys were great. Oh, thanks. Like, you and Rachel, so much fun together. I love the alt comedy joke about how it's just comedy for gays and women. Mmm. It's true. This was really fun. You guys did look amazing.
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And great pronunciation. Thank you. Can I say, your French was jumping out. Girl, it helps. It helps to speak a language, to have a flexible tongue. I think I'd be truly adrift. I thought the Oscar nominations were pretty good. I have my disappointments. Of course. I'm disappointed not to see Margaret Qualley there. I really am. Very disappointed not to see Margaret.
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I can't say I'm, like, totally in love with the supporting categories for whatever reasons. No challengers, noms. I think the challengers' lack of love sucks. But, you know, I've seen almost everything this year, and I'm not going to go out of my way to say anything negative, but there's some boring stuff that's, like, floated to the top. Like, for me, it's like... I don't know.
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I think it could have been a little bit more interesting had we thrown in like... Yeah, challengers into Best Picture. If we had seen, even like, I haven't seen this movie because it terrifies me, but like, people love Nosferatu. I was like, it's got lots of craft nominations.
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And so they tell you who the nominees are going to be beforehand.
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Oh, wow. And so you were, so you got to be a little gagged beforehand.
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So fun. Oh my God. Wait. So I've now seen The Apprentice. Those nominations are really well-deserved. Jeremy, congrats to Jeremy and Sebastian. And I understand people are, like, squeamish about watching the movie The Apprentice because of the Trump of it all, but, like, when you do get around to it, those performances are excellent. And I enjoyed the movie. I really did.
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I guess this is my thing is it's like there's a lot of like interesting, bold movies out there. And I want to say, I think I just got used to the idea that something like The Substance could be nominated for Best Picture so that when it was, I'm not giving it its flowers right now. It's amazing. So many things are nominated and up there for awards that like would not normally be.
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And I think it's great. Lots of international stuff is nominated. I'm just going to say it. I'm not crazy about A Complete Unknown. In fact, to say I'm not crazy about it is an understatement. I find it to be a Wikipedia to a karaoke track. That's the read I'll give for this. I mean, especially because he did Walk the Line, which was so good.
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I just feel like it was a low-impact version of that same movie. I think it's really hard to... to like dramatize and bring emotion to the story of someone who was by definition unknowable and very removed. And I just, I did not find it that compelling of a story because I actually think that not every cultural figure has a compelling story.
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You were just like, it's time to cap it.
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It had its moments. You know what I mean? Like I said, I thought the ensemble was great. I thought the casting was excellent. It's just it didn't add up to an altogether very compelling story for me. And I thought the performances in terms of the music were good. You know, it's nothing against it. It's just, I look at the Oscar nominations and see that it did so well. And I'm like, No, really?
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But anyway, that's just how I feel. I'm not crazy about that movie. I wasn't crazy about Conclave. But again, I did see that on Election Day.
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Yeah. I mean, many, many people did. And there's so many movies up there that I'm like, I really love. It's just, I don't know. It's just some of them, I just don't care that much. So, Valentine's Day is coming up. You know, everybody's going to be dining out with their soulmate. Well, not everybody.
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But, you know, it's easy to find your bowlmate at Qdoba. Ha, I follow you. Bowlmate. Someone to share your Qdoba with. That's right. Because everybody can get exactly what they want at Qdoba. You can create your own tacos, burritos, and bowls.
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Right? But here's the kicker. You can get a free entree this Valentine's Day when you order an entree and drink. Oh, one for you and one to share? Right. And then your bowlmate becomes just all mate, but it's only open to rewards members. So sign up in the Qdoba app and join Qdoba rewards to redeem the offer valid in restaurant or online only on February 14th.
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It was a disaster scene. Actually, title of that disaster scene. Disaster with a Z. Yes. Z in the middle. That's who. That's who. The best part. The best part of any party with the crew after you do anything is finding out who that girl is. That's like we're doing shots. And more than often, it is someone on the AD team.
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First of all, you know who completely snubbed that movie? GLAAD. Right, well... There you go right there. So, first of all, I know there's a lot of discourse about this movie from the trans community, from the Mexican community. I'm not going to weigh in on any of that. What I'm going to say is this movie is... At the same time, it's so chaotic, and it is also so boring. Like, it's both.
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It's kind of crazy, right? Because it just comes in and sweeps these nominations. And now I have to ask why. Come on. Like, Becca says 2025 is green book, but it's not like that, though, because I guess it sort of is because it's like a queer movie that people feel like they can get behind in the Academy, but... It feels different to me.
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It's just like, it's not good enough to be the frontrunner in my eyes. And it's also not like...
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I'm also uncomfortable with the amount of hatred that it's garnering because then you look at some corners of the internet and it's like people, it's people like, you know, I won't even say the names of like some of these YouTubers I've watched, but it's just like, you know, they play the clip of that sex change operation thing. And then it cuts back to them and they're hating it.
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It's like Becca saying right now, hating it for all the wrong reasons. Right, right, right, right, right. You know, that feels really uncomfortable. But then when you put that clip out there as a representation of the movie, how exactly do you think it's going to be received? I don't know. This is a really bizarre cultural moment, this movie, because it's like...
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Now, can you explain for all the readers, Katie's Publix's finalists and Kyle's? Yes, of course. That was the first time that that happened, by the way.
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i don't know what it is i think they decided really early on i think it premiered at can and they decided really early on this was like the prestige big movie of the year and also it's netflix and everything so it'll kind of packaged up to be this like big oscar movie and then everyone saw it and everyone has these like crazy polarizing responses to it for good reason and again this is nothing to say about the performances the performances are great
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And it's well done. And I think Zoe Saldana will win the Oscar for it. And she's stunning. But this movie, it's like, what exactly are we watching? It doesn't have to be all these genres. Sometimes that's just confusing. I find the story to be compelling.
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That might be our bounce. I just thought there were so many great movies this year, and then some of them, the ones that I was like, oh yeah, those are the givens in the Oscar race. You get around to watching them, and you're like, okay, sure. I guess we've decided this is the representation of film this year.
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Welcome, Kyle's. I embrace you. A couple people have come up to me at, yes, you guessed it, Barry's to self-identify as a Kyle's. Well, that's where the Kyle's gather. Likely story. We got to get a new shirt done, says Becca. I agree. Maybe a jersey. Okay, so, but explain to the girls what an AD is and why they might want to blow off such steam.
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And it's like, it's going to be different than you may think. I think that a lot of people have been reaching out being like, where's the coffee table book with the rules of culture? Right? Heard your suggestion there. We're going to do something a little bit different, a little bit more fun for us. We're putting our foot into this book. Yes. Oh, interesting. In a sexual way?
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No, I don't think of putting your foot into it as necessarily a sexual thing. I just mean, really put your foot in that. Like, you know what I mean? Like, isn't that an expression? Yes, but also it could be a kink, I think. Let's say it's both. Yes. We will be putting our foot into it in a writerly and kinky sense.
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Of course. This will be a true blast to do. And it's coming next year. What else? Is it time for I Don't Think So, Honey? I think it's time. Yeah. This is a scant episode, you guys, because it is early in the morning. This is one of those weeks where this was the only time we could do this. And it is 7 a.m. for me, 8 a.m. for Bowen in mountain time. But we love you so much.
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This was really the mountain episode. Last week was the laughing episode. This was the mountain episode. So, Valentine's Day is coming up. You know, everybody's going to be dining out with their soulmate. Well, not everybody.
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But, you know, it's easy to find your bowlmate at Qdoba. Ha, I follow you. Bowlmate. Someone to share your Qdoba with. That's right. Because everybody can get exactly what they want at Qdoba. You can create your own tacos, burritos, and bowls.
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Right? But here's the kicker. You can get a free entree this Valentine's Day when you order an entree and drink. Oh, one for you and one to share? Right. And then your bowlmate becomes just all mate, but it's only open to rewards members. So sign up in the Qdoba app and join Qdoba rewards to redeem the offer valid in restaurant or online only on February 14th.
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The truth is, the road can feel unpredictable, like it's out to get you at every turn. But it doesn't have to be that way.
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From forward collision avoidance assistant to blind spot view monitor, our vehicles offer available features designed to help safeguard you and your loved ones.
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The standard forward collision avoidance assist can help prevent or mitigate accidents by alerting you of an imminent collision and automatically applying the brakes if you don't.
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Like, I'll be at Barry's boot camp, and literally on the treadmill next to me will be a woman in full earrings, bangles, and more. Literally yesterday, I was at the Hollywood location, and I'm putting some of you on blast if you take class with me. A woman's earrings full in. The guy next to me watches bracelets and a necklace. The guy on the other side of me, a necklace.
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And I'm like, guys, what if something falls off? This becomes a projectile. And this is another installment in becoming a projectile culture. This is why you always wear seatbelts. I don't care if you think you're going to be safe. If there's an accident, you become a projectile. If there's an accident at Barry's, I don't think so, honey. When you're accoutremented.
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are flying everywhere and your earring, mama on tread six, becomes a projectile. Take the earrings off, put them in the lockers they provide for you. I don't like jewelry and all these things, watches flying around. I don't think so, honey, during the workout. Not during group fitness. I don't think so, honey.
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First of all, why would you want to wear all that stuff while you're dealing with weights and materials and positions where you have to engage your body in certain ways?
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Things get caught on stuff. And that's what I'm saying. It's just like, and then the guy next to me did that thing where he tried to like, you know, at the end of a sprint at Barry's, like where people will try to jump to the sides. Instead of like running it down, like, okay, okay, we're running.
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I have to say that bugs me because I'm like, you're going to hurt yourself. No, I know, but I think that you jumping to the sides of the treadmill, like in order to relieve yourself of the strenuous activity, I feel like that is how people are going to hurt themselves. It's like, it's not a natural movement, right? And it just makes me nervous next to you. I'm not yelling at you, Bo.
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Yes. She's on foot at the circus. She's on foot on the tightrope. Yeah. So basically, for this person to be like, we're doing shots, understand their job, the entire process, as long as to keep things on time, get people where they're going. It is all about making the day. And so for those people at the whatever gathering, whatever party, whether it's at...
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I'm just saying I don't want you to hurt yourself. Thank you. I never said that. I never knew you were this type of girl.
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Thank you. Huge feat. And I started working with a trainer. Fans of the Ride podcast may know JR. I actually asked him, I asked him yesterday, I was like, so does Benny talk about you on the Ride podcast? Because he trains Benny Drama. And he goes, yes, Benny and Mary Beth. And I was like, okay, wow. So this is someone I feel safe. Hard-bodied. I'm actually seeing him in two hours.
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I feel safe mentioning him on the pod. But now you have to ask nowadays. The pod is so huge. You never know who's going to be uncomfortable by putting me thrust into the limelight of Lost Gulch. One of the funniest things about watching the nominations live, because I woke up early, as I want to do, I guess, lately, so I could watch you do the nominations live.
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And it's like, I watched it on YouTube. Yes, I watched it live. I watched the whole thing live. I woke up at 5.27 a.m., put that laptop on my chest, and opened it for you, and Rachel sent it, pronouncing French and looking hot. Crazy for that. And one thing I'll say is the entire YouTube chat was people from Brazil going crazy for Fernando Torres. And I'm still here.
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I think she could actually win. Like, now that she's nominated, like, I do think Demi is still a frontrunner, but I think that Fernando Torres' performance in that is so stunning that if people actually watch all of them, it might be hard not to vote for her. But obviously, we're still team Demi here.
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love best actress this year it ended up being such a competitive year and you know to say nothing of fucking Mikey Madison who's absolutely amazing and as some people I think are rightfully feeling the Nicole Kidman snub like 100% that's a major snub hugely Oscar worthy performance I loved Baby Girl Nicole Kidman in Baby Girl, it's wild that she keeps getting better, but she is getting better.
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I mean, to say nothing of Marianne Jean-Baptiste, who was also amazing in Her Truth, which is a tough movie, but an unbelievable performance. You know, I loved Pam in Last Showgirl. There was so much going on this year in Best Actress, so kudos to those nominated. Kudos. Oh, I guess I haven't technically done my I Don't Think So, Honey. You have not technically done it.
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The Sundance Zizastazine or some sort of rap situation. To see that person let off steam and go for it and say, we're going to the bar ripping shots. I not only celebrate them, but I join them in a shot. And I raise my glass now. Matt, you would be obsessed with this. Let's give a toast to Nicola. A morning toast. To Nicola. To the 3rd AD on the wedding banquet.
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And that's one minute. I'm so sorry to hear this. Thank you. It's hard for me. Yeah, I mean, and you are, do you really want to go to Aspen Ski Week? I do. I really do. Okay, so we'll go and you can do your thing. And I guess I'll be that girl in the house that's like drinking.
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I've never talked to someone who had gone skiing that didn't have a torn ACL. I'm sorry. What about me? What about you? What about you for once? Ever thought about that? You have a torn ACL. You don't even know. Sure.
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It would be your whole personality.
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Oh my God. Girl with a torn ACL was such a character in high school. You know what I mean? I remember I went to high school with this girl, Sam. And it felt like she was on crutches for two years. Of course. It was so debilitating. It's not to say that she didn't need the crutches. It's just, it fucks you up.
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It's so funny that this person in my life has probably gone on to, has probably, has definitely gone on to live like a full life. Who knows where she is now. All she's known to do is. a career, you know what I mean? But she will always be that girl in crutches on high school to me.
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And understand that if you are in high school and you're listening to this and you're on crutches, look around, sweetie. To everyone the rest of their life, you will be the girl who was on crutches in high school.
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Yeah, honestly, if you're in high school listening to us, reach out. We want to hear from you. Yeah. Or don't. No, I'm like, never mind. Not you beckoning minors. Hey, young, under 18 age people, let us know you're out there. No, really don't.
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I take back everything I said. Jesus Christ. We don't want to hear from you.
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And we hope that this episode inspired you out there. That's really what we aim to do every week is get on here and inspire with our cultural analysis, relatability with each other, and our energy. Inner energy. This is an acclaimed podcast. I mean, thank you again to GLAAD for nominating us. No, not GLAAD. Wait, yes, GLAAD. Yes, GLAAD. And also iHeart.
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We got two nominations for podcast of the year.
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We end every episode with a song. But man, I feel like a woman.
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I'm gonna let it all hang out. Can I say one thing? There's a group thread of a lot of people that are going to Shania and Mariah, and there was some, like, really shitty stuff being said in the Shania group chat. We're not going to be disrespecting Shania before we even get in there.
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And I can't wait to get there and look around at these gay people and have them be like, wow, I didn't realize that she had so many songs. I'd be like, no, you know what? You just didn't open your goddamn eyes.
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Thank you for getting the party going last night. I wasn't there, but I was always there in spirit. I'm always where my sister is, right by his side as a ghost.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Mountain Time" (w/ Matt & Bowen)
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Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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There we go. To you. To Nicola. To you, Nicola. A name of a Swifty if I've ever heard one. Absolutely.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Mountain Time" (w/ Matt & Bowen)
Well, first of all, I want to talk about that, but can we just, because we're in the disaster scene of Sundance, can I just say that the Wedding Banquet's reviews are out. They are extremely positive. Everyone's saying such gorgeous things like heartwarming. They're saying excellent ensemble. They're saying Yoo Jung-hyun is like another standout performance.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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They're saying the words Joan Chen like they should have been saying on Oscar nominations morning. Still have a bone to pick with you about that. You can sneak in Joan Chen's name there. But they're saying these things. Yes. And I just want to know from you, how did it feel watching the movie The Wedding Banquet directed by Andrew Ahn, friend of the pod, director of Fire Island?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Mountain Time" (w/ Matt & Bowen)
How are you feeling in the dance? I feel so lucky.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Mountain Time" (w/ Matt & Bowen)
That's what they're saying.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Mountain Time" (w/ Matt & Bowen)
Do we think that's definitely happening?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Mountain Time" (w/ Matt & Bowen)
So this is just the scuttlebutt. There's no revelations happening here.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Mountain Time" (w/ Matt & Bowen)
And also, I have to say, I'm so disappointed that Park City's going to lose it. But... It's... Who knows? It might not. Okay.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Mountain Time" (w/ Matt & Bowen)
Well, and also you could still use Park City as some of those theaters. And like, you know, maybe it wouldn't have to feel completely different. You know, it could be just like... Because it is... I would imagine that the reason they're moving is because it's demanding a larger space. Is that ultimately why? Okay. So you're saying Salt Lake City.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Oh my God. I need some shots brought over to us as well.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Boulder! Keep the vibes of where we've always been. Mountain vibes. Now, is Boulder mountain time? Yes, it is. It is. Oh, a gorgeous mountain time. I wouldn't want Sundance to not be in the mountain time region. Of course, of course. Sundance is so huge for mountain time. It's the one time of year people even think about mountain time if you're not living in it already.
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"Mountain Time" (w/ Matt & Bowen)
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"Mountain Time" (w/ Matt & Bowen)
You're like, we had to get on this podcast today. I was like, well, Bowen is, let me check notes, 8 a.m. mountain time.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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It's a huge moment for mountain time internationally. What do you have to say?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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No, Sundance is, that's high culture. High culture. It brings Mountain Time up with it because the rest of the year, Mountain Time is in the doldrums with the Housewives of Salt Lake City. Think about this. Everything you see on the Housewives of Salt Lake City that's not a vacation is happening in Mountain Time. That's why it's so good. You're onto something.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Mountain Time" (w/ Matt & Bowen)
Think about the elevation in those women's brains.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Mountain Time" (w/ Matt & Bowen)
I think very easily because it's like we said to Angie, it's like the one that feeds the other and the bigger the one gets, the bigger the other gets. It's a gorgeous symbiotic relationship. It's like if the substance was incredibly positive, uh,
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Take that again. No, it's good. They get it. It's incredibly positive.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Yes, 100%. And I'm not even ascribing one Joker and one Batman because that would be to say that there's a hero and a villain. But here's what I would posit. Maybe both are antiheroes, okay? That's the whole thing about Batman. And you forgot it. And I'm pointing to you, the royal you. I am saying you forgot that the Batman was an antihero vigilante story. Because guess what?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Sure, he saves lives and beats the villains. But you know what? He's a billionaire.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Girl, you ate bars. Bars. You ate bars. Okay, you see Meredith Marks. You didn't make it to her store. By the way, I'm telling you, I've been a couple times because I went to Sundance a few years ago. I made it up top of my priority list to get into Sundance. Meredith Marks' shop. And it's a lovely experience. Next time, top of list for you. Yes.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Mountain Time" (w/ Matt & Bowen)
Maybe we'll go together someday and we'll sort of storm in there. Oh, but if it moves. I hope it doesn't move. But maybe it has to move.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Mountain Time" (w/ Matt & Bowen)
I love the names of the house. I love like the Chase Sapphire, you know, fire pit. Fire pit.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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I love it. I love like American Express hot chocolate bar. Like truly. And that's what you're going to get when you go to Sundance is you're going to get a lot of incredibly sponsored quaint activities.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Locked In" (w/ Tate McRae)
Well, because it's like basically like, we call them the bleachers as it were, but it's like a mezzanine and it's wide. And then the floor audience is like to your left.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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And so you're performing this way, but most of the audience is like, in this concentration you're not really performing to the audience or to the cameras in a way it's hard to parse it out did the experience on a TV show help with that before or no?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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You're an asthma legend.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Oh, okay. Did you embrace it or did I say something insane?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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You've had to embrace it. I had to, yes, of course. I've just heard you talk about your inhaler.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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You must. There's no choice but to embrace it.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Even the style of songwriting is changing because you've also said that like you like doing your set of chords, but now it's like songwriting now is like, it's got to take a weird little turn in the middle or something. Unpredictable.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Is it hard to keep up with?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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I think the rollout for this album has been like, mission accomplished. It's like, it's like it is all living in the same space.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Cause like, it's okay. I'm okay. Like the first time I saw it, I was like, Oh my God, she's getting arrested. It's a moment. It's a moment. And then we went there and then two hands. I'm like, this is, this is the best thing I've ever seen. It's really great.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Locked In" (w/ Tate McRae)
Well, because I first heard about... the truly seminal, superb, I was going to say superior single, Two Hands, through you because you were saying in the group chat, ooh, Two Hands just came on in the coffee shop and I couldn't help it. It was a shoulder shaker in the coffee shop. But what did you say? You caught yourself just... Gyrating. You were gyrating. Giving Tate.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Yeah. Okay. You literally, you're saying tour felt never ending. You just finished.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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You're, you're about to go back.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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How does that sit with you?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Because the ballet training is like, you might as well be living in like a nunnery. That's like so disciplined.
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Right. Yeah. This is easier than that.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Locked In" (w/ Tate McRae)
should we do should we knit like it's literally like very sweet because the only thing you guys have in common is that you are getting insane energy from the internet yeah that is the only thing you guys share well and that they do music yeah and that we write music and that but like because of in that circumstance you know what I mean like that is like that's the thing
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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You were giving Tate in the coffee shop.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Was Amy Allen... She was on Think Later, too? Or you guys were working together even before that?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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And this album. I feel like she's getting this, like, shine now because of the Grammy.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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She just won and, like, working through you and, like, Sabrina. It's, like, talk about that process because it seems like you two are very keyed into each other in terms of, like, the work ethic.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Locked In" (w/ Tate McRae)
We haven't acknowledged this. This is... And we're not like big dogging in front of our guests or anything, but this is our first time we've seen our Webby Award. 2024 Webby Award winner, best podcast, individual episodes, comedy.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Locked In" (w/ Tate McRae)
Is there a preference on a style? Is it like, is solo? Cause speaking, I mean, this is not quite the same thing. Like I always prefer writing with people.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Locked In" (w/ Tate McRae)
When it comes to like, you know, comedy or show or scripts or whatever. It's like, I've learned to like not feel so bad about like, oh, I don't do so well on my own. But like, do you have one preference? Yeah.
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Yeah, because either way, you're just making sense of what the song is about.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Whether it's just you needing to like spill it out, like spill for a couple hours. Yeah. Or that you're reconvening with Ryan and Amy and Julia to be like, what is this going to be? It's the same destination.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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What's an example of an obvious concept on the album?
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Okay, so a Webby Award is if you do anything on the internet, like post or comment, you might get nominated.
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Cause high school is a fucking.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Calgary high school was interesting. Like, like what's the vibe in Calgary high school? Yeah. Is it Degrassi?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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The vibe. Okay. Cause I grew up in a first, a quick little second. I grew up in Brossard in Quebec.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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And maybe it's a French-Canadian thing, but it's like it always seemed a little bit... Ironically, it seemed a little bit grittier. Okay. Like more in your face, but that's maybe the French Canada thing.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Locked In" (w/ Tate McRae)
But Calgary feels like... It's like it's not... It's not BC. It's like... It feels like for real Canadians. It's like real Canada. You know what I mean?
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The streets. It's the streets of Canada. The streets. Yeah. The one street. The one street. The one... Wait, so... Okay, so... But it just... It was rough. It was just hard. It made you feel... Like, it made us feel like crazy.
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And so we're just kind of in our chairs. So I guess just pretend you're opening an envelope.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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But would you say like, did that feed the songwriting at all?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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I think last time when you were like, I have a harder time writing from a place of like joy and happiness because I, is that still true?
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And I ask that in such a crazy way. I'm just saying like, because you do write from this place of like, I need to get these emotions out. I need to process in this way. And I don't need to process happiness because I'm feeling happy. It's hard to be driven by happiness to express.
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"Locked In" (w/ Tate McRae)
I ask that in such a crazy way.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Yeah. Okay. Cancer, Pisces, Scorpio.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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You guys do have the edge. You are a cancer Queens.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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We're the three water signs.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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But I feel like when you do write from a place of joy and happiness, it like, it is a huge sort of success because like two hands, I feel like it's so joyful.
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They're like, what do I know?
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um so close to what we are in the so close to what era we're in the so close to what we're in the mispossessive era mispossessive tour era as it were and we've been in there we've been in the era okay i think by the time this episode comes out we we've gotten to listen to the album early album comes out february 21st hitting tour starts march 18th even the pisces season tour
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Yeah. What's the reason?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Like I Do is great. Flo Millie, I've loved forever. Yeah, she's great.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Yeah, it's really cool. Oh yeah, is this your first time with like a hip hop feature? Yeah. Oh, great.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Locked In" (w/ Tate McRae)
Yeah, it's fun. Major Lazer.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Locked In" (w/ Tate McRae)
Okay, I want to shout out Green Light because the bridge on that, is it a vocal effect? Because there's like a... Do you know what I'm talking about? It's sick.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Locked In" (w/ Tate McRae)
There's like, there's wow. Like the poetry in that is like huge.
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Yeah. I feel that way so many times.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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The Pisces season tour. No, I think it's just... No, we're after Pisces. Yeah, I think it's after. We'll talk about it. Yeah, it's right after. We gotta talk about your signs. And... Please. We gotta talk about your signs. We gotta talk about your signs. There's some stuff to get to.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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I've never bought into like the, it takes this long to get over something. What do they say?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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It's just wrong. Don't listen to people who tell you that.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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She is... Someone who we've spoken about on this podcast is an equally balanced three header. Just three hyphenate. I guess it's two hyphens, but it's three titles. Singer, songwriter, dancer, all three hyphenate. She's truly incredible. The album hadn't come out. Thank Leonard hadn't come out when you were on SNL, right?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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So Miley and Hannah are like the locusts. And does it then bring in like Selena and Zendaya and Ari? Yeah.
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You were still making it.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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That's powerful. By the way, did we get Disney Channel in Canada? When I grew up there, it was like YTV. You didn't get it?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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I'd heard Greedy, obviously. Had heard You Broke Me first. I was like, I like this take. Oh, the first time I heard Tate was on you was on Troy's track. Great song. Great song. And then she comes on SNL and then it's whatever. We'll bring her in first and then I just want to tell you about this moment because it was truly an earth-shaking moment for everybody at SNL. But we love her so much.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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But YTV was like Canada's Nickelodeon?
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You didn't have cable. I didn't even have cable, but like you would go to school and you would stay after school and you would watch YTV and there was a show called Uh-Oh and like you would get slime.
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Sleepover in the fifth grade. Yeah. It was all boys, mind you. And for some reason, it was like midnight, one of the boys, straight as an arrow, allegedly decides to put on Lizzie McGuire.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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And then it's all of these boys talking about how hot Hilary Duff is. Yeah. Whoa. And I was just like, but she's being funny. Yeah. You can't see her talent? I'm like, but she's so, but first and foremost, she's a talent.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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And they were all like, yeah. That is so sweet. But all these guys were like,
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Okay, how did you meet current boyfriend?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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It's like a rivals to romance kind of thing.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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And then Cabo, we became... But you just happened to be in Cabo at the same time?
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Listen to the album out February 21st. Please welcome into your ears Tay McRae!
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Yeah. Like ever. And so he like got you eventually.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Okay, because I remember at SNL, the after, do you remember this? You and I were like in the room trying to like scope out. You were like, who's single?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Locked In" (w/ Tate McRae)
Yeah. There's a lot of eligible bachelors around there. What I told Tate was, I don't think there are a lot of options.
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There was no one at that party.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Totally. I can't speak ill of the SNL after party because it's, you know, this hallowed thing.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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And I pitched a few, but I was like, but no. They weren't working.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Like, Tate needs something special. And then look, now you're with your guy.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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But that's Leroy in a way.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Oh please. We all wanted to be her.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Well, cause you're so, you are very like chill and mellow and conversation. And then like in the videos on stage, it's like, you are, it's the eyes. You're right. You're locked in.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Locked In" (w/ Tate McRae)
But like two hands. It's okay. I'm okay. I'm just like, even like run for the hills. I'm just like, you are, you are dialed in in an amazing way. And I'm like, it's so interesting to hear you say that. Like it literally is Hannah Montana.
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Describe the persona. Who is she? What's she about?
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You know what you're saying? Because we leave our bodies sometimes. Like, you feel this way. Yes.
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I've never heard someone describe it this way. This is huge.
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Like it's crazy conceptually to think about the fact that you wrote a song for two hours in your room. And then weeks later it was like, okay, like a bunch of people saw this and now they're knocking on my door to like get me to sign. Yeah. And then that's the kind of the same thing where it's like you wrote a song. First song she ever wrote. First song you ever wrote.
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But it's like, it kind of translates to this idea of like, you wrote something and you like, it's a very intimate interior experience. And then you're doing an arena tour with all these songs that you wrote in the privacy of your own studio, you know?
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I don't know. It's like a stoner thought, but you know what I mean?
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Feels like the exception to the rule. Feels like every fandom is like a little bit mean.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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That needs to happen more often.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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It was going to happen. And then it got canceled after the VMAs after a military finish. Something split in the fabric of culture at that night. We were just talking about that.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, you did Tokyo for the last tour.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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It's magical. It's crazy.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Yes. You went to a micro pig cafe?
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They're macro pigs? That sounds horrifying. There's like a street in Harajuku. I don't know if this is the one you went on, but there's like multiple places in Tokyo where it's like the puppy cafe. No problem. The kitten cafe. No problem.
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The new animal is the micro pigs.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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And then the even newer one is otter cafe.
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It's a cafe with otters? You eat, you pay, you like order some food, you eat, you sip your tea, and then they run around and they come up to you.
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So with that, what are you? I might be a pig. I might be a pig of some kind. I don't know.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Oh, that's so neat. Yeah, I'll take koala. Chlamydia down. You know they all have chlamydia.
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It's not about speed. It's just about the demeanor.
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Rhino? Have some respect for yourself.
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I love that we're asking her what she thinks she is. And we're like, no! I think you are a cheetah.
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It's Tate and Tatiana. You know what I mean?
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I like that. Mountain Lion is good.
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Yeah. Do you call her Tati sometimes? Or is it full-on Tatiana?
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So, Arianator and Navy. Because this is the thing, I'm sure the Britney comparisons are flattering, but at the same time, you were like... a zygote when she was like out there, like already very popular. I was thinking about that.
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Yeah, don't say Tati to her.
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I'm sorry that I said tits out earlier.
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It was disrespectful. I'm apologizing all throughout this episode.
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Okay. No, she was cool as a cucumber. I have a question. How long does choreo live in you? Oh, that's good. Do you need to be refreshed? How much do you need to be refreshed?
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I'm going to agree with my sister. Yeah. Right. Yeah. That's a huge one. Yeah. I'm still thinking.
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You just appreciated it.
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Okay, but I'm saying, like, for tour, like, I was this close to trying to learn the dance break for two hands.
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Because I was trying to do, like, the... Uh-huh. Like... Okay. But, like, you're literally, like, upside down, like, across the windshield. Wait, do it again.
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I'm 12. Shit. Wow. She didn't even know what you were referring to. I didn't do that. She's like, I never fucking... Because you went like this. Well, she, I'm like, which is kind of cool. When you sing the word two.
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I want you to. Wow. I can't believe we're watching this. Wow. Oh, my God.
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Yes. I'm obsessed because it's like it's giving car.
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When is tour until for now?
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Wow. Congratulations. And that's why I said for now.
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Because I knew y'all had a trick up your sleeve. We knew the team was going to push it.
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You'll get a Christmas. I'll get a Christmas. You need to spend Halloween in New York and then you're going to sell your house and be like, I never want to live here. Why? No, you're going to be so obsessed.
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Favorite dance break of all time.
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Oh, fine. Yes, yes, yes. Okay.
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I bring this up not to, like, reiterate this, but I'm just saying, like, you stan R because that is your generation of, like, coming up, watching Nickelodeon, being like, oh, my God, I love her. You know what I mean? And it wasn't necessarily Britney at the time because you were, like, still, like... Like a baby.
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Can you believe? Well, okay. So we're going to do... This episode's winning a Webby. This episode is winning a Webby, by the way. We're going to do the choreo of Two Hands.
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You know, I'm not to brag. There might be eyes on it. Like people are going to be eyes on it.
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We'll be in touch. We just told Tate the idea and we had to skip past it and cut that out. And she approves.
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Yeah, it's going to be good.
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Do you miss being a baby?
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I want to be a baby all the time.
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That's right. This is I Don't Think So Honey. This is our segment where we each take one minute to rail against something in culture. Nat, do you have something? You know what? I do have something.
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In life, okay. We'll all do life I Don't Think So Honey. This is Matt Rogers' I Don't Think So Honey as time starts now.
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I kind of want to be an iPad baby more than anything else. Why is that? Just a baby that's on the iPad. And they're in heaven, but their brains are caught.
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What do you even know about pop culture?
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It compliments your skull shape.
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Great bone structure. That's what you wish for.
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Did you get tummy time as a child? Yeah, you must have gotten it.
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Tummy time is when you're a baby, they flip you over on your tummy so that you're not lying on the back of your head the whole time. Oh, I didn't get any of that.
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I don't think so, honey. Not my mom, but just the hip architecture in human beings in general. Did you know we have our hip flexors go from back to front and we have side to side, like going across the pelvis. It's... It's crazy. It's the, I think it's where I'm going to go. It's how I'm going to die. Something's going to happen to me in the hips.
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Like I'm trying to use them in dance settings and maybe a sexual setting. And it's just not, it's not, it's not, I'm not executing the way I want to execute on the hips. Your hips do lie. I've been doing the same split stretch routine for the past two years. I'm no closer to getting into the splits. Yeah. My mom should have done this, what your mom did. 15 seconds. What Tatiana's mom did.
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Tate, do you think the slutty glasses are the accessory of the year?
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Meng flopped. And I can't believe I... Listen, it's like the one childhood school trauma that stays with me.
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Well, all these girls and boys were doing the splits in front of me. And I was like, I want to do that. And I still, after a lifetime of stretching, can't. That's one minute.
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That's really, I can't do it either. Well, I guess, I guess you can't answer how you got to do it because your mom kind of did the work for you.
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You know the ones. Everyone wears, as someone who's not worn a slutty.
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You were always upside down.
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Well, for Greedy, you literally shot your leg up like a full 180, like straight line up and down. And I was like, how do you do this?
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These are not the slutty glasses, but I'm saying everyone's wearing the slutty glasses now. And I feel like you really pushed that forward in a huge way. Really? And you should be so proud. Yes.
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Speaking of hair, I think you should consider the long black middle part like you have in Sports Car.
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Wasn't thinking that. No one was thinking that. That's the voice in your head.
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Really? Oh, it looked perfect. Because that was you next to the horse. Yep. That horse looked scary.
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Do you ever think about like who thought of that? Who thought to do that?
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Right. Why are you wearing them now?
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Well, that's, you got to knock.
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Today's not a slutty day.
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There we go. Now it's officially etched in time. Now it's etched in time. CarPlay should know that it's a dad phone or a mom phone.
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Well, thank you for classing it up.
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Have you met Ariana yet?
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No, no, we're not. She's so sweet about that.
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Sometimes Apple Maps is really, really good.
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You know what came and went? Waze. It's still going strong. Waze is still out there. We just lost a huge waste of sponsorship.
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I think that's going to, we're going to start up the TikTok trend.
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Someone else did the Apple dance. Yeah. Okay.
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That's what you want. I mean, we'll be that girl for you, you know?
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Yes. The team's all here. Yeah. Well, so close to what is out right now. Please. Listen to it.
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Fucking go listen to Flo Millie.
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Have you gone on record to say this before?
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This can unite, this can heal the nation's wounds. Because we can all agree across generations that Into You is one of the best pop songs ever written.
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Those hooks, crazy. Wait, Ilya was It's Okay, I'm Okay?
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So talk about that. It's the first time working with him, right?
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No, he did stuff on the last album.
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And then was there anything you could dance after that?
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But I feel like there was a time when... dance got kind of compartmentalized into something else. And then you merged the two, right?
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So what happened at SNL was you came in on Thursdays to rehearse.
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It's just because we get the feed, the camera feed upstairs on the 17th floor as we're writing and doing rewrites for the week. It was Jason Momoa as your host. Yeah, that was a fun show.
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He was like giving everybody his like new vodka. Did he give you a bottle of vodka?
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Okay, thank God because you were a minor. Yeah. But you were on the bleachers. You were doing Greedy.
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And everyone was like, it reminded me of when BTS came and like they were doing their dances and everyone was like, oh my God, something's happening. Like something about dance on that stage is really, really powerful.
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And you were doing it like throwing your, I love.
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Well, because. And this is a crazy comparison, but I've been watching like old Jackie Chan movies and like that man uses his body like a fucking Swiss army knife. And you were doing the same. I was like, you were going off. And we were all screaming and with joy being like, this girl is amazing. And it was this moment in the writer's room where we were all like, we're just freaking out over you.
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You know what I mean?
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I was just going to say, we shared this thing. We came up when milk was king. You would not get an osteoporosis, that's for sure.
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And I was, I'm like, and now I'm scared. And where is that in the culture now? Like, have we just forgotten about osteoporosis?
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They're penia clubs?
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Look, Matt. Oh, I see. Bowen, look over there. Is that culture? Yes. Las Culturistas. Ding dong, Las Culturistas calling.
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Hey, what if we shuffled the order? What if you started off low bone density? Then you become... or no, I think it'd be fun to end on sex object.
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Are you saying these are clubs specifically for osteopenic women?
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That sounds like heaven.
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I gotta say, and please, please shut me up if this sounds patronizing in any way. I feel like this current generation prop of 50 somethings is still aspirational to me. Oh, agree. I would rather be living your life honest to God. I would rather be going to Bloomingdale's and museums and things every day on tour than the bullshit that 30 year olds feel.
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We were there for- Talking about how with friends, acquaintances we have have been in that club for 48 hours.
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We'll be like, let's see how long we last. We left after hour four.
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I can't tell if you're joking because Matt is one of our olive toned legends and you really must cherish this fact about yourself. I like- You've been, can I say as a platonic person in your life? Here we go. You looked really good this weekend. Shut up.
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I think it's just a full supplanting of crone.
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Crone is, it's a tough word. It's a tough word, but it's a word that I associate with sex in the city. Because there's the theory that they each represent the four crones and like classical. I didn't know there were classical crones. There's like the four crones.
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No. Oh yeah, it might be Shakespeare's crone. They're like country wise women.
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Medicine woman. Diva. Diva. Wait, diva is this, is this extra step that you're talking about? Okay. Yeah. It's literally diva.
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I sort of went there in my photos. You could have withheld from posting and yet you didn't.
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And one of the sort of fringe things that happens, one of the fringe consequences is that sometimes your friends go, oh. Sometimes your friends get a little chub for you. It's actually rule of culture number 16.
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Yes, I remember. He said that on update. He was like, Amy's not here because she's having a baby. And that was the first Jon Hamm episode.
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Oh, you must understand that.
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The men, I think, just, I don't know. The men respond to this thing where, like, you are just being, like, your full powerful self on TV. And that is something that, like, we kind of have to, like, go about sideways in media sometimes. Yeah. and we will eat our own sometimes. And so like, I feel like you do figure very, very largely in that sense.
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Yeah, I was going to bring up Stronson Fairchild. Oh, of course. For Blades of Glory.
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And you were bouncing on that thing that you couldn't even... Sometimes you were just... I haven't felt an earthquake once. No, that's a lie. That's not true. We were in Palm Springs the last time we felt an earthquake. Felt that one. Mitra Jahari was sitting next to me and... Sandy Honig was there. Sandy Honig was there. We were stoned. And we were at the Tropicana eating dinner.
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At that point, we had already been, like, used to a Will Ferrell big comedy movie. And John Heder, obviously, huge, like, big moment for him. But I was just so tickled. As, like, a comedy person watching SNL every week, as someone who was, like, scrolling, like, the writing credits for The Simpsons, like, we were, like, those kids.
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Like, it was just thrilling to see you and Will in a film like that. And I will always, always remember just you as Marilyn and him as JFK.
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Because you were bone tired between shows.
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Tropical, I'm sorry. Eating dinner. Full on earthquake. I was eating like my chicken piccata or whatever the fuck. And then I was like, Mitra Juhari is shaking her ass in this booth. What is going on? Which was unlike her. She usually just sits very still and eats. Very still and eats. And then we realized in the commotion at the restaurant that it was an earthquake. A loco motion. Loco motion.
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No, that's great because- I feel like there's something about young people now where they are struggling with finding people, just socializing in general. It's like what you want to tell them is like, oh, is it like an osteoporosis thing? It's like a calcium thing. You have to start early and get the whole sportsman thing going.
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Right. I imagine you have not been dom parent in that context with your kids.
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I feel like- You're not showing up to the things that, in a way that is like kind of, all right.
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Yeah. It's Black Diamond. It's moguls, moguls, moguls, moguls. Get either right on top or right around. Is this tied to, because I've always thought of you as this aspirational TikTok person because I'm like, well, I need to get on TikTok because I feel like there are people out there like Amy Poehler who are like, it's cool, I like it there.
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Kylie was not at Coachella. She's everywhere else. She's everywhere else. It was the New York gay night last week, the Kylie Minogue concert. And I was going to try to go, but we were at work. I've seen her on accident 19 times in the last year.
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Pre-TikTok things that would have taken off on TikTok. Now, I know this sounds so cloying and obnoxious, but it's true. Like Matt and I would like start like song, like- Oh yeah, we had tunes.
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We would start like TikTok songs. Bare people, if you know what we're talking about. You know.
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And we would- And shoot like horror anthologies at Disney World.
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It's out there. It is out there.
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Right, but that's- We do pretty good, actually. That's our lovely social team. I feel like we could put it back on TikTok, but there would just be that 2014 patina on it where you'd be like, ew, I don't want to watch anything from that time.
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We're post cringe. We're post cringe.
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I can think of the people.
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Oh, that's so nice. You must understand how important Kylie Minogue is. She's important to the culture.
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It takes the piss out of the list in the first place.
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I do that all the time, Matt.
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Yeah. Like you feel seen.
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But are you downloading this into the boys at all?
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They don't want to be told.
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Right. Right. Right.
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And it kind of keeps pulling the thread until it loosens.
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Even adults don't want to be told.
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And then you hear it and you're like, oh, I've heard it out loud finally. It's Brene Brown, Walk Alongside. Not like face the person and say, this is what we should do. It's like, they just want to be told that meme of, hey, I'm not reading all that. I'm so happy for you. Or I'm sorry that happened. It's like, they just want to be told, great. Or I'm so sorry.
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Can we ask you for... Like, do you have any advice for us? Give us advice.
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No, come on, tell us.
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I walked in, she was making coffee, stirring her mug with a knife.
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I want like... All of these things at SNL that I feel like are not compatible in terms of like lifestyle things of like dating and like having a dog and like all of these things.
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Maybe the advice is it's just wait it out until you finish one thing.
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It's a knife win! It's a knife win!
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Period. Period. So this is a big day, Beau. She's already podcasting royalty. Number one in the land. Not even a month into the game, and she's number one in the land. Good hang on Spotify. Hey, Joe Rogan, shut up. Get bent over your- Cool it. Cool it. It is fantastic, just as the title suggests. It's a good hang. We'll talk about the format because there are some innovative things.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
Swedish death cleaning.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
Yeah, maybe. Very Swedish. Is your brother still there?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
Oh, nice. I know, so cool. There was a Smart Girls thing where he was just playing basketball and I was like, that seems like a cool dude.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
I like that for you. That's really good for you.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
You thought you couldn't innovate in the podcasting space. No. You haven't met our guests. Yeah. Restless Leg Tour is back. One of my favorite live comedy shows in the last lifetime of mine. And my last lifetime, it's my favorite live comedy show. The blueprint of two people doing comedy. There had never been anyone before.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
I do think I do need that. Do you subscribe to a flower gardener sort of duality in relationships?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
I'm the party. I'm the party. I'm the party.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
There was some, there was almost always in self-defense.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
She often saved the day.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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She was the only person in a Muppet Christmas Carol who stood up to Scrooge.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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That's my example. Gay man.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
Whenever she goes. It is the pinnacle of martial arts culture. Respectful of Eastern culture. Okay.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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But we forget about them as comedy duo icons. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
Was it your pre-SNL SNL? It was my pre-SNL.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
Well, thank you for putting some shine on Kermit too, because Kermie, I think was also just as valuable of a male, a masculinity comp that as Miss Piggy was a femininity sort of example.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
Yes. It sounds like you have feelings for Kermie.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
Kermit was a peacemaker.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
Meet Victoria Frankenstein.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
And all of a sudden, you exhausted girl. And like, you're like, wait, hold on. Where was I in that?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
Yeah. It's thinking about how you communicate subtextually. Yes. Rather than literally or super textually where you're just like, I'm going to communicate what I think by saying it. And right.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
I'm being such a four.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
Yeah. Yeah. And that's a challenger thing.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
Is Piggy an eight? Is Miss Piggy an eight?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
Remember the ABC show? They introduced that new pig girl. That pig woman. Do you remember? There's that new pig woman. And she was pooping in and trying to pick up Kermit. And the internet lost their mind. They were like, get the fuck away from him. She needs to get the fuck away.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
Yes, and she mixed up with Lisa Frankenstein in the Diablo Cody movie.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
Yes. Okay, you too? Yeah.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
Yeah, because why couldn't they see him? And I was like… Wait, but who said this? Didn't they say… No, someone said that they took him away because some kids, especially in the 80s when child abduction was a thing, they were like… Parents would like… It was that, like, they wouldn't believe what kids were saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
Right. And, like, it was at a time when you needed to trust what children were saying. Like, I saw a strange man at the side of our street, you know? There's, like, a lot of implications when it comes to, like, PBS and children's programming.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
He's a great resource.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
I might, I might, because I feel the same sort of cosmic connection to her that you're talking about, which is that I'm like, she was my first glimpse into old Hollywood and to like, and she's like modeled after those actresses.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
I just think she's beautiful.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
And pigs have newly been become my favorite animals.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
No way, absolutely not. I'm sorry, I'll let you go through all of them.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
I am going to be the not see your stuff school because if one thing is off on the floating shelf and it's out on display, it's going to bug the shit out of me. I'm never going to feel, I'm going to have that itch in my brain the entire time I'm looking at.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
They pretty much have to be clear.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
Of like- Housewares. Yeah. What about you? When are you doing it?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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What? Come on. Everybody. No.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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She doesn't want to do it.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
No. And this just goes to show you like, can women Dom?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
I'm like, what? Or no. Or does she get in your head because she said it? No, I just, I've always thought the same thing. There's no practical reason for me to do that. You know what I mean? I'm gonna sell socks, jerseys. I'm selling it all. I'm doing whatever.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
You know what I'm saying? I don't know, y'all.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
Wait, who was the bowl of limes?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
I love limes. I love limes.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
But she said, I love limes. And then afterwards she was like, I don't know why I said that.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
The answer is maybe. Maybe.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
The seven has to go to a nine, peacemaker.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
It is, it is, it is.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
What is your most interior designy motif?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
But your masculine is callback Alan Alda.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
And I have no idea whether or not I do or don't. That's a sublet reality. I'm the one that's asking him like, what are the spaces that you like? Where do you feel comfortable? And I'm literally like, you should think of your favorite restaurant at Disney World.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
Yep. Well, I think Matt has a lot to work with in terms of where he's been and where he is.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
We're going to fix that with AI. Oh, yeah.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
Yeah. Yes. But I think it's also a statement on depth. You are getting depth because this side of your face is in focus and then this side isn't. Yeah, my right eye is in focus.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
I'm bringing my four energy into this. I'm like being academic about a lot of things. Yeah.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
I've been AI for nine years. This is going to be H-I, human. We are about to go into, I don't think so. This is the human intelligence part of the podcast.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
My God, exciting. This is Matt Rogers. I don't think so, honey. His time starts now.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Too far away, too spread out. A lot of the same images kind of like being projected at you from like Plato's cave. You know what I mean? Like if you're like, is this an illusion? It's not, it's real. Like you have to come out.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
And that's one. Oh, is that it? Well, it's been in 15. I let my sister go. It's okay.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
We'll get them back. The teens are all about, the slang has been video games with Gen Alpha and Gen Z, like SideQuest and NPCs. It's like, this is permeating the culture with them in a way that I'm like, y'all, we all should develop a video game vocabulary on the basics. Yeah.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
The pit. You're going to end up in the pit. And the wait time is long. Is that part of the show? The long wait times, there's a bed shortage. Oh, it's a mess.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
It's a mess. It's stressful, but it's... Real time, no scoring, grounded and acting.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
Right. If you're going to ride a motorcycle, and this sounds a little insensitive, at least go on the donor list. Well, yeah. At least make it useful for society.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
Of course. Come on, cut me open.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
No, we're setting you up for success. And I want you to chime in on mine after I'm done or during. Please, please. OK, OK, OK. OK, so this is.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
Oh, really? That's good.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
I Don't Think So Honey, standards and practices. We should be able to say at least five shits and five fucks on SNL per season. Because after this whole Aga Wotem, Miss Aggie, because these men ain't want shit moment. First of all, favorite moment of televised history ever. Second of all, We are so hampered in our comedy at SNL by not being able to say shit and fuck.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
Celeste and I talk about this all the time. Let us say shit and fuck. Like, it's us, it's Abbott, it's ghosts. We're the last network comedy. It's like, can you give SNL an exception, an exemption? Like, if we're dismantling the FCC because of Trump, like, can we at least, can one boon, can one silver lining be that we get to say shit and fuck?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
I can't handle it anymore.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
And I'm even keeping it to an allotment, to an allotted five and five, five shits, five bucks. It would make, it would bring a sketch to the next level. It would make it so that you would be able to like know, oh, this is the real world. It's not a heightened sketch reality. Shit and fuck are so comedically powerful as words. I really think it would help us. And that's one minute.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
Like did the hammer come down? I don't think anything came down, which I love. And Ega was like, no, I didn't hear anything. So funny. Don't you agree? Wouldn't have it been this much more fun?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
Thank you. Or if you want to monetize it in a way that is like, I don't know, like GoFundMe coded, like just have a fundraiser for our FCC fines and just help us cover our fines for the five shits and the five fucks that we get to say. 100%.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
You can say ass. You can't say asshole. You can say taint, but you can't. No, you can't say taint because it's a part of the body.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
Yeah. We've had standards notes on this. You can say taint, but you can't say like gooch or whatever. You can't say gooch. Because it's like, it's not anatomically precise.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
That would be, that would be a hack. Anyway, that's, that's my, that's my thought. Oh my God.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
Okay. Okay. This is a moment in time. Listen.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
This is a real call out. There were some Instagram accounts, Diet Prada did a whole April Fool's thing of like, this is the casting of the Britney Spears biopic, Ariana Grande, Troye Sivan, and people thought it was real. And I'm like, April Fools, let's just- No more April Fools. No more.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
You fill in the gaps.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Is this how you feel about true crime?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Does softy stuff count as, does like cult stuff count as softy stuff?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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A cult documentary.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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just gonna say and this is my he hasn't watched it but I'm like my selling point to him is like there's this whole segment in an episode where they go through her recipes like galactic taco salad she's like I asked for the chicken barbershop she's screaming at these people like where's my chicken pot like it's amazing and the term mother is resting is incredible I just didn't like but she's talking in
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
We had a spank. We had a fun spank.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
We got a run out of it.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
Don't change a thing about it. The reason we've done this for so long is because it's basically formally the same thing as episode one. Don't add too many bells and whistles. I was going to say what you've innovated on in the podcast is starting out with that panel discussion with the people who know your guests. I'm like, that's So damn smart. And just keep it exactly the same.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
Don't change a thing.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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No, it's like a horchata thing. I tried it. I didn't love it, Neil. I'm sorry. That's okay. I just had a tequila rocks.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Yeah, Redford. Redford. Alan Alda.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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70s queens. Well, we had every episode with a song.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
It comes. It's coming. Hold on.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
Hello, hello, baby, you called. I can't hear a thing. I've got no service in the club, you say, say. What, what, what did you say? Oh, you're breaking up on me. Sorry, I cannot hear you. I'm kind of busy.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
And our music is by Henry Kapurski.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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You guys are normally so aligned on your activities on tour.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
That's okay. That's okay. But they knew that the Mexican place was not yours.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
Well, talk about this idea. Do you feel like your life is scored? Because I'm watching The Pit now and I'm loving that it's not. I love the pit. I gotta get into the pit. We wrote a parody of the pit called The Ditch and it was East London. It took place in Shoreditch Medical. It was just me, Ego and Jonaham speaking in East London accents.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
And it was, it did not do great at dress because no one understood what we were saying.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Yeah. We might be hitting that developmental time now between the two of us. Well, I don't know. I don't know. I was so back this weekend at Coachella.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
my ideal trip that my ideal trip is what you and i have connected on which is what you've talked about in the last time i saw restless leg which was going to iceland one of your sons or both of them yeah with one of my sons and just enjoying just getting high off of nature yes about that well i also i also think that i've gotten to a point where i mean i don't barely drink anymore where i
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
No, it goes away. Is it the microplastics in her brain as well? Yeah. I'm sorry to bring this up.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
We were thinking of writing an update about, because this thing came up in last week, this New York Times piece came out about microplastics. The equivalent of a spoon is in your head, is in all of our brains.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
You guys haven't heard this? The equivalent of a plastic Dairy Queen Blizzard spoon is in our brains, in little granules, and there's really nothing we can do about it.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Is your schedule crazy? Just want some me time?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
That's okay.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
We sort of all chose fashion today.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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What did you think she meant? I was like, what SpongeBob is this? Is it a sponge like character on your shirt?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
He thought you were just being a bitch.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
I don't think so, honey.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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There's a subgroup that we actually, we said that we would officially induct them. No, we can't have five? What do you mean? They said we couldn't have two.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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It's crazy. I think about Sarah every day and I smile.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Can I tell you who'd be so furious about that? All the Kyles. They want to hear from you so bad. Do you know that you're a gay icon?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
If you did, that would be fucked up. Especially now in the time that we're in.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Oh no, I watched the whole thing.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Here's my three takeaways. It was hell and like a funeral. Two, one nice thing I'll say. I did like Melania's hat. Three, Carrie Underwood sounded bad. And for all of that to go down and for her to sound strained and shouty.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Yeah, it was not good at all.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
I can't say I was ever identified as a Carrie girl. I've never really given her the propers on this show. You want to know what it is? I've always not had the best feeling on the vibes.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Well, I was a Von Zell Solomon girly from the beginning.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
And I love Von Zell. And Von Zell was the singer for Game Show on Quibi. Yes. Period.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
And that's the culture that made you say, Menarche, I'm bleeding.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
The moment it happened? Tone on tone, perfectly like flat ironed hair, like really straight stuff. Wow.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Taylor Hicks.
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Sarah, you need to describe your perfect looking man. Yeah, describe your perfect man.
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Put your weapons down. Put your weapons down.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
They're not listening. Mariah forgot she did this.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Period. Well, we're going to say we ate that.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
I can see it. I don't want to live that long.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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I'm going to look like Nosferatu. And not the chic heroine chic.
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Oh, bitch. Damn, you dragged yourself there. Old bitch. Old bitch. I'm so sorry. Okay, wait. So. We were on a thing. The perfect man.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Where's he from? We want to hear about him. Where's he from originally? Where's he from?
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I don't floss.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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So it just goes to show what they're telling you is not true. You don't have to do it.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
And some people think I have crooked teeth, but it's because I talk out of one side of my mouth.
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You're trying not to say it. You could do it if you really applied yourself. You were straining so hard playing a lesbian. I know. Because you're such a straggot.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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You are a straggot. You really are.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Before you got emotional when we said that you were a gay icon and that you really don't take it lightly. Talk about that.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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I was going to say Oprah. It feels like you took that away from her. From black women. That sucks for you to rob black women of that. Especially this week.
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"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
It really is really hurtful.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Well, she had an episode where she had a bunch of pedophiles on, and then I think she had another episode where she had victims of... Today we're hearing the other side.
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Oh, I've been sleeping so bad. What would you attribute your good sleep to?
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Who was the, who was the one? Wow. She's moaning and groaning. So is this out of shame or out of pure sexual frustration?
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You're sweating in your other lips.
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Say what he taught and what his vibe was.
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Okay, normal. Yeah, one that uses American gas. Drill, baby, drill. Something Trump said today at the inauguration. About what? About fracking. He said drill, baby, drill. Anyway, what were you saying? Okay, so this teacher, English teacher.
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Oh, you're not using it anymore?
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Oh my God. It's giving the Giver. And I was saying Vincent Van Gogh in my head.
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Definitely. I texted my friend Allison last night. And said, hey. I said, hey. We had a mutual friend at the birthday party we were at. Oh, cute.
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Then let's just skip it.
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Oh, my God. I wish I could go to Roosevelt Field, but it was too far. Were you Walt Whitman Mall? No, I was Sunrise Mall. Like South Shore vibes.
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I want to hear.
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I'm for real.
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Definitely for real.
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Yeah, and the things that we aspired to be. Name the craziest thing from childhood. I mean, just, what did you say?
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She's a Long Island legend.
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You're kidding.
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Nikki Blonsky's mother came up to me at my school.
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Oh my god, that's perfect! No, I don't actually... What did she say? You're living in a perfect penny.
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Frog ass bitch. You're a frog ass bitch.
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We gotta take her to a Broadway show.
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Sounds like a dream, right?
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Oh, yeah, yeah, sure.
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We wanted a sequel to the Shrek the Musical.
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Mathilde, you clearly put on the kinky boots.
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What's the explanation?
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Have you ever seen Hamilton, the musical?
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And so why don't we just, so you had a first thing you wanted to say in quotes. Is this the first thing? Sarah brought a gun to the studio. That's what she wanted us to say. You better, I have a first thing to say and you better ask me again, even though this is not what we do with our repeat guests. Ask me again. What was the culture that we say culture is for me? What's your explanation for this?
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It's a great show. And also if nothing else, like it's production value.
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Can we get really into this though? We watched The Substance together and I did think of you. Thank you. Did you love that movie?
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You need to work with her.
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You were saying a lot and all of it is impacting exactly who you want. She's hearing you.
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Can I correct you?
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Yeah? When did you meet her?
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Were you a fan prior to seeing The Substance? Like, did you see Revenge?
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Were you a Demi and Margaret fan prior to this or did this expose you to their gifts?
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I bet you see their names called tomorrow. Yeah. I hope so too.
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Do you know who's calling? I'm calling. Bowen and Rachel Sennett are announcing the Oscar nominations.
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I wouldn't miss it. I think it's such an honor.
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I'm so honored.
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I love that. I aspire to announce the nominations one day.
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First of all, we're not talking about harmful individuals today.
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Which means what? She goes, is my hair a triangle? A pyramid head like in Silent Hill? I couldn't tell if you wanted to be told yes or no.
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You're right. He does, he smallens things, but he's excited. I'm excited.
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And I truly do love, I know we mentioned it a lot, but that Mongolian cashmere crew neck sweater, not only was it affordable, but I be wearing it out on the town and the girls come up asking to touch me. I say, yes, you may, but just the Mongolian cashmere, not the skin, not tonight.
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Because did you notice that my girl has a leaf on her head?
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Well, it's very close to your ear.
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What's going to be your head?
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Cool. Gorgeous head. Gorgeous head. Stunning head. Say this. Toe head.
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I was watching a body language expert talk about Blake Lively. Oh, just let that stick in. I was watching a body language expert talk about Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni. And there was a moment where an interview says to Blake Lively, like, well, you actually had to be the intimacy coordinator on set. Like you had to show him how to grab you and kiss you. And she goes, where did you see this?
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And the body language experts said that use of the word this is usually to show that you would disdain whatever it is they've brought up. Like, oh, what's all this? What do you mean by this?
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The word this is rarely used positively or inclusively.
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Isosagon? I saw the TV-sagon. I saw the TV glow cigar. I saw the TV glow cigar.
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You just ate that line read, by the way. Dude, what is this again?
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Think about this. Who did this?
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Who did this?
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Who did that?
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What's up with that? What's up with this?
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That pornographic drawing.
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I actually, I've been watching so much Mad Men clips. The number one best scene in television history. I'm kidding you not. Joan and Don. Joan and Don. It's the episode where Joan gets served with divorce papers in the office that like front desk secretary gives, like allows the last server. It's the fifth season, which by the way has no skips. It's the rumors of Mad Men.
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So Don and Joan go to the Jaguar dealership and then they pretend to be a couple and then they go to the bar and they get a little drunk and they turn on the jukebox music and they have this scene at the bar that talks about the kind of people they are and the kind of people that are in the bar. It's beautiful. It's about them, but it's not. The writing and the acting is so...
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They're both so good. Christina Hendricks, no Emmy for that role.
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I would agree. I would definitely agree.
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Sure. Our guest is a cast member on Saturday Night Live. She's been on the show before.
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But I guess that sounds good. I think it has a lot less to do with that and more to do with the fact that it's almost like the reason why January Jones and Jessica Paré also don't work a ton. It's because I feel like they're very identifiable with those roles and they were so well done that maybe it counts against them sometimes. Fuck. Because I think all of those performances are unreal.
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I think Jessica Perret actually gets disrespected. I think Megan was incredible. Zubi Zubi Zoo is an iconic moment. Zubi Zubi Zoo is in the first episode of season five and it gets better from there. Zubi Zubi Zoo is the craziest thing to ever happen on television.
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And she is, you know, just one of our great friends. One of our great friends. Although this is, can I just say, The Power of the Room, directed by Jane Champion. Yes. The power of the room. This is the first time the three of us have been in the room together.
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It is so insane.
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The fact that Zubi Zubi Zoo was supposed to happen in a grounded world. And it still reads as being like realistic. And you believe that she would do that. And it says pretty much everything you need to know about her character. But Zubi Zubi Zoo happened on AMC. Yeah. Twin Peaks happened on ABC. Which is, that's the craziest part to me. Take that risk now, challenge.
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No, that was right. That was right.
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Well, you know what? You clearly weren't paying attention in English class because you were so horned up with trying to get your rocks off with Vincent Van Gogh. Vincent Van Soup.
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In a good way? Or in a horrified way?
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I'm like the craziest looking human being.
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I took a very short hiatus. I believe it was a one episode hiatus. You were in Vegas seeing Kelly Clarkson. I was in Vegas doing my thing and you were the guest and I was like, great. Now I have to have her turn obviously right back around and come back.
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Counterweight. I love that. So you're so bored with traditional beauty because you get that every day. In fact, you have sex with him.
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You're the kind of girl who holds out. This becomes like a whole other alt-right podcast. You're the kind of girl who leaves it on the shelf. You know what I mean? Ew. I made that expression up. You leave it on the shelf at night? On the shelf at night?
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You have to crack a window after because it stinks so bad?
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Well, if you leave it on the shelf too long, it starts to stink. They say that about women. They don't have sex. That's where their pussy starts to really smell bad.
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It's peste.
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When you see someone pick your nose, are you horrified? Pick their nose, rather.
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That's part of my practice.
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You're going to die. Sometimes it's not as easy as blowing your nose.
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This was really healing, actually. Thank you. Thank you for coming. You're welcome.
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I think you should.
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But it's Necessarius. Necessarius is my favorite dinosaur. That's why they call me Necessarius. Necessarius was so good. She was cutiful. She was cutiful. You guys, readers, please draw Necessarius and send us in your pictures. Tag us, all three of us, and the Atlas Codrius with your photos that you've drawn of Necessarius.
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Monstrosity. Keep going. What's the theory of everything?
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It could be yours too. You want to come? I'm going again to see Mariah Shania.
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Can you imagine if that was the answer? Diet Coke. We'd be geniuses.
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You don't need the Diet Coke. You sound like a genius.
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I literally just found out that I'm available and I'm going.
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Go ahead. Get angry.
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Come on. I can feel your rage rising. Use this rage in a positive way. We all need to do that, especially now.
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You want to come?
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Let's organize, starting now. Use this female rage about Oppenheimer.
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Use your female rage against Oppenheimer to make a big point.
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Vegas loss. We're going to have such a ball. Vegas comma loss. Sarah's favorite thing is, and let's examine this, what could be troubling is she always, every week is going, we're blacking out this week at the after party.
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at like Bucket of Blood Records in Chicago, cool weirdo store with a bunch of, you know, like freaks, fags, weirdos, weirdos, the outcasts, the misfits, those who haven't belonged once in their life that can find community in a place like that. In a place like this, quite frankly. And I don't say this in a pejorative sense.
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I say it in an inclusive way, really not giving much credence to my point earlier, which shows that people can change.
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I've changed, obviously, in the last 20 minutes. Here I am using this in a beautiful, inclusive way when before I said it was usually in a dismissive way. It's just really interesting. I credit you with bringing up, not bringing up, with bringing yourself to the conversation today. No, I was going to keep going.
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The queerdos have had it too good for too long.
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Lots of queerdos running around.
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A lot of queerdos.
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What an incredible callback. And the answer that they're saying is no, people are born good. People were born good until the nuclear bomb. Until the great disruption.
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It made our buttholes hurt when you said fissure.
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This is my, this is me on the toilet with a hemorrhoid. Oh my, this might be a little gross. Okay. Hey. Are you jacking off? No, I'm, it's hurt so much that I have to, I'm thumper. Meanwhile, you're supposed to get up. You're not supposed to be sitting there with that off.
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I hate this. There's literally nothing worse than like a localized injury.
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Well, can I, and this is my great reveal. Yes. Can I show you what I have?
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You're not a tank at all.
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Oh, my. Give it up for Brittany. Yeah, yeah. Honestly, watch when Brittany comes on the podcast and is like low-key funnier and smarter than us. No, wait. Well, the thing about culture is it actually started, and she tells us, she comes in like a true cultural anthropologist, like a full 10 MBAs.
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Yeah, she's like, well, actually fire began when a caveman actually, really it was collaborative and it was really the first collaboration.
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Did you listen to her episode of Lost Gulch?
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You're kidding me. That's disgusting.
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Actual structured sound.
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I listen to this after for edits. Oh. To make sure that nothing slips through the cracks. Right. Because this one's always spouting off some problematic stuff.
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I said, listen, unedited Lost Gulch. You'll be taking a vacation in a big slur.
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I thought, wait, is pancakes on the ceiling meaning you throw up so hard, projectile, it hits the ceiling and never comes down?
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Pussy is not a slur that doesn't count. Pussy, pussy, pussy, come for me.
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So he thought it was a vegetable? Because it was in the fields where vegetables grow. Am I warm?
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Yeah, totally. You'll never believe this story. So my sister comes home one day when she's five. She's had to write a book about her family. So it's like, this is my mom. I love my mom a lot. This is what my mom says to me. I love you. This is my dad. I love my dad a lot. This is what my dad says to me. It's a picture of him on the couch and it says, peanut, go grab me a beer from the fridge.
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Go get me a beer from the fridge.
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Grab me a beer from the fridge. This is the garage fridge. Bring it in. Classic.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
No. There was something in there that spoke to the universe for sure. My mom says, I love you. My dad says, hey, peanut, go grab me a beer from the fridge. I can't believe I've never heard this before. That's incredible. It's unbelievable. It's so good. Peanut, my dad used to say. Were you peanut?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Sports fan is a lot of fun.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Because I would crawl around all the time and never sit still. Still to this day. You know how hard it is for me to sit right here? Unbearable. I want to be crawling all over this place.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
I want to crawl over this place, spread my skin. I got to cum, quite frankly. I want to do it now.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
You don't want to know. Fine, I'll tell you. White. I'm a normal guy. White as snow, my cum.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Today we're actually going to cum, and then we're going to see what colors it is. All right. And then we're going to figure out the hex code for the cum color.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
There's no triangle. You know what I'm saying? It's an isosahedron, the correct name of it. It's not an isosahedron. Becca clearly said she couldn't pronounce it. She threw a bunch of sounds together in her mouth and wished for the best. You Rebecca-splained it.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
We immediately get a huge deal with Barstool Sports. We leave iHeart. We leave iHeart. We go to Barstool. For some reason, on Barstool, now they're talking about Japanese pizzas.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
And talk about that.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
That's all you can say? Talk about it. What is it that makes it so good?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Thoughts on Mary Cosby this year. And her behavior in the finale.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
A lot. That's actually a great point. You can say a lot about a philosopher. Yeah, I agree with that.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Weren't you upset at the end when she was really trying it with Angie? She was like, I was wrong about you. That was so insane. It was absurd.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Now you have to say her top five.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
She's crazy. She loves Carlton. You need to be in an asylum.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Singer. Angie. Angie.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Okay. Who is rounding out this five?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Karen. You didn't say a fifth. One more.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
It's like there's a folder with drag names. There's a folder with my favorite housewives.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Even this week, you're going to knock Karen out?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
All from the comfort of your own home? Well, now you know.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
I've never even thought of you as being a Rebecca. You're Becca. That is how.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
I think so. I think it's canon.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
When she's sitting in the jail cell getting interrogated, and she's babbling, and then she goes, Thomas Jefferson's concubine.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
No, she is one of the funniest people to ever live.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
My top five?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Are we all doing this? Sure. Can we just point out, Sarah gave a standing o to Karen's body cam footage and Brittany Beatman. My top five is Brittany Beatman. No, just kidding.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
You guys, I've never recorded in my life. I was trying to send a video to my daughter. She got a good grade on her math test. She just started speaking to me again.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
What, you're singing Pink Pony Club throughout the airport?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
It's brilliant.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Past, future, and present. Take notes.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
When you're off your phone and just being you, it's incredible what you can do on your phone. That's essentially what you just said. When you really clear, when you just let the music speak and you just put away your phone, pick up your phone. See what happens. Amazing shit. The content. Especially now in the new era of TikTok.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
And they're trying to like- I don't think Bronwyn is as guilty of that as other, I mean- Let's call a spade a spade. Yes. My critique for the finale of Salt Lake, I did not need them to do that stupid thing.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
So Heather is, we'll put Heather in there as well. I don't think she even believed in it. I think they told her like to do this and then she was like, yeah, fine. And then it just, not one element of the show felt like they were pushing that hard for drama until that moment. And I was just like, I just don't believe this. It tripped at the finish line a little bit.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
So cool. With your name on it. With your name on it.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
It's the most insane. What was my favorite was her cadence. We're going to take out our phones. We're going to find the worst thing we've ever said about someone here. And then we're going to hand over our phone and we're going to read it. Diabolical. And we're going to move forward.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
But I always go by Rebecca. Okay. It's sort of like how you forget that my full name is Matthew. If you really think about it for even two seconds, you'll remember. Right. But you wouldn't have known.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
It was very produced. It was very, it was the only moment of the season that I felt was like inorganic.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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And I didn't like it.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
And she's just like, she actually deserves an Emmy. She does.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
I actually like earlier in the year, like in our group chat, people were like, oh, Heather's not having a great season. She's not like in it. I'm like, actually, I totally disagree because I think Heather Gay is the audience. Yep. And she's the best narrator on the show. And she's the lead of the show. She's the protagonist.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
So it's fine by me that she's not like totally like racked with whatever is going on. I feel like she's had a lot of that and I kind of enjoy watching her watch what's happening. That's how I feel about Miss Gay.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
I was talking about you. I wasn't talking about her.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Wow. Even this week. Limp wristed somehow. Even this week.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Yeah, I think it's unfair. I think I think you need you do need Heather to do what Heather has done.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Well, the rest of them are not capable of doing that. Like Lisa Barlow is not capable. And I'm wearing her on my shirt. I have a deep respect over my heart. She's not capable of being like, hey, guys, to the producers, what do you guys need? Let me execute that for you.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Sarah Nicole. Sarah Nicole should be your stage name. Sarah Nicole.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Oh. You think? I think Angie. I think Angie too is a chaos agent.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Yeah, she has an understanding of the situations in a way where she's like, you know when it's time to put your foot on the gas. And whenever it's Meredith spinning in a circle at her own bat mitzvah being like, Psychotic! Like Angie knows like, I'm upset, but this is good. Meanwhile, it's like Mary melting down.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Like there's a bone in every housewife's body that if they were to scratch that bone, it would just be like, let me continue fighting this woman. But Angie knew it is not, I'm not arguing with Mary Cosby about this.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
And then she even wrote something for this show, where her I don't think so honey was, I don't think so honey high body count hair, and then she goes, if you come to Lunatic Fringe Salon,
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
It's like, I just want to see like an Angelina's photo and like all over it was just Sarah Nicole. You big titties.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Oh, no. First of all, when we saw, I didn't know it was called Lunatic Fringe. Triangle hair vibes. Lunatic Fringe. I saw Sauron vibes. I didn't know that it was actually a phrase. The Lunatic Fringe references actually groups of people. It's not just two words that sound great together. So she's like a full... I worship this.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Yeah, we do. And she was great on the show. You should listen to that.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
This is the right, the joke level writing. Yeah, this is good.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
No. What can you possibly mean by that? And you're talking about a Greek woman. So watch it. Stop with this Rome imagery. We're talking about a Greek legend.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
I'm a pillar of the community. Do I have an Angie?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Meredith? Well, Meredith, I thought it was really interesting how you attacked me and you were very rude to me. There's not much I'm specific. I have to work on it.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
I want, she needs to have a better season next year. And I actually blame the, I think the producers cut out a lot of her shit. Oh, yeah.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
We love Whitney.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Period. She's one of the only housewives I've done a shot with.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Well, we were both at high tops West Hollywood.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Likely place for us to be.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
She's a gay guy.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Bowen is so... You guys work with the biggest A-listers week in and week out.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Meredith Marsh came to the Fire Island premiere years ago with Seth and Brooks. I went over to her. That was the first time we had ever met. I said, Bowen, come over here. He said, no, I'm not doing that. He's like, he was too scared. I love these people with all my heart.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Present. Pump it up with Sarah Nicole, Jewish American Princess.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Meredith doesn't stop creating content.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
If you don't think I have the entire Meredith Marks collection and have been to the store in Park City, you're incorrect. What are the pink microphones? You'd be deeply mistaken.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Yeah, they moved way too fast.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Yeah, I love reading. Fluent in language. I love reading quick. Yeah, love. So good at it.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
So, Valentine's Day is coming up. You know, everybody's going to be dining out with their soulmate. Well, not everybody. I mean, it's hard to find your soulmate. True. But, you know, it's easy to find your bowlmate at Qdoba. Ha, I follow you. Bowlmate. Someone to share your Qdoba with. That's right. Because everybody can get exactly what they want at Qdoba.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
You can create your own tacos, burritos, and bowls.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Right? But here's the kicker. You can get a free entree this Valentine's Day when you order an entree and drink. Oh, one for you and one to share? Right. And then your bowlmate becomes just all mate, but it's only open to rewards members. So sign up in the Qdoba app and join Qdoba rewards to redeem the offer valid in restaurant or online only on February 14th.
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At participating locations, Qdoba rewards members only. Log into your account or scan QR code at checkout. One offer per member cannot combine with other discounts or offers. Delivery and taxes extra. Other restrictions may apply.
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"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
The truth is, the road can feel unpredictable, like it's out to get you at every turn. But it doesn't have to be that way. Hyundai's available advanced safety technology is designed to help keep you protected against the many challenges the road throws your way.
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"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
From forward collision avoidance assistant to blind spot view monitor, our vehicles offer available features designed to help safeguard you and your loved ones.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
The standard forward collision avoidance assist can help prevent or mitigate accidents by alerting you of an imminent collision and automatically applying the brakes if you don't.
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"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
With available class-exclusive safety features, Hyundai lets you enjoy the journey with confidence, knowing that your car is working hard to help avoid the dangers of the road from getting you.
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"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Is your schedule crazy? Just want some me time?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Sounds like a dream, right?
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"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
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Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
I watch her QVC videos.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
He does. It's like ASMR. It's ASMR to me.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
They're so soothing. Jesus bracelet. And as a proud Christian woman. I love having God right here on my wrist. As a proud Christian woman.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
I don't like the way that you... You had poison venom wrapped around every word of that. Your readers are going to open the book.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Look at that. I mean, Becca, that's the most gorgeous woman alive.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
And to think she's dating a man who will not have sex with her. That's crazy. And that's part of her ass wipery.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Let me think about it. Let me think about it for even more than one or two seconds. Miss Gay. I think... But we love Stacey. Stacey Rush is in my top five.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Sure. And you are never going to do that. Never going to do that. You respect the fuck out of those guys. I respect the fuck out of those guys. Any actor out here who's grinding, doing their best, putting one foot in front of the other in this grind we call Hollywood? I respect the fuck out of those guys. Excuse my language, but it's true. And it's really difficult.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Well, I thought you just said Meredith Marxist, and I thought that's a good drag name. That's a great drag name. Meredith Marxist.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
iPhone list. Wait, can I just say, when I was in Denver for the holidays, it was this huge event.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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That's an A-list Trax appearance.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Because of fear.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Meredith came, obviously Meredith famously, as the readers know, came to the cultural awards and delivered a great performance and accepted an award in person on behalf of all the ladies and then came out to the after party afterwards and was hanging out. She is a good hand.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
There's something I can't stop thinking about as we're watching the new season of The Traitors.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Yeah. Well, she's at a handicap. Microphone. She's a handicapped woman.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Oh, so I'm making fun of the differently abled. I understand. You make fun of disabilities now.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Matt's here on a really underappreciated line during the whole recording freakout in the Sprinter van. What is it? I invited you into my home. No, that and then she's been saying lies and spreading lies. She goes, for saying lies and spreading lies. Like saying and spreading being two different things. For saying lies and spreading lies. She absolutely rocks. Garbage horror poses.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Meredith, Stacey, Luann, and then I'm going to say I fucking... Luann, yeah.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Alexia is pretty good. Alexia is huge for me. I'm going to say Adriana tomorrow. Adriana's amazing. I'm going to say... Meredith. Yes. Yeah. I'm going to say... If you say Meredith... Oh, I'm going to say Dolores Catania.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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And I'm going to say... Who do I laugh at?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Honestly, Sonia to me is diminishing returns. Kenya? Sure. Kenya is tough for me because as incredibly fabulous as she is, I don't think I'm like chuckling and laughing along. Honestly, in good times, Portia. I was going to say Portia. You like Portia. Portia's unbelievable. And also, you know who I think is actually a top five housewife? And I take the good and the bad. Nene. Erika Jayne.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Erika Jayne is unforgettable character on television. Yeah.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
I mean, literally named after Erika Kane. Wow.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Yeah. You met her? No. Wait, I don't know who Erica Kane is.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
Right. Erica Kane is Susan Lucci's character on All My Children. Probably the most famous soap opera character.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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What did you do on General Hospital?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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You're fucking kidding me. She's amazing.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Yeah, like this.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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I really do want to go there.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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All I want to do is act.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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I respect the hell out of those.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Think about how many greats we've got from soaps. Julianne Moore.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Let that sink in. You don't even know the half of it with this hamster game show. Let's keep going. Who was competing? The hamsters?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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But the humans too. And therein lies the rub. And therein lies the rub.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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It's all pretense.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Fuck. Which I. Which I, bitch.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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I certainly couldn't. Which I.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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I love when the lines blur and people are really crying hard and feel betrayed. Like when, okay, so spoiler alert for the traders, if you haven't watched it, we're going to talk a little bit about it. When Tony got voted out, he was like, you're a sellout. You're a sellout, Rob. You're a cop. Shut up.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Okay, you know what? I'm throwing it out there. I want to be on General Hospital.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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I'm serious. I would love to come in and do whatever you guys need. They're not going to want to let you go. That's fine. I'll do a recurring role.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Monstro SarahNicole" (w/ Sarah Sherman)
I want to do a pro wrestling thing. That would be really good.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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It's all my favorite things. Costume. Ask John Cena for tips.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Substance 2. You find out Monstro is not dead.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Slurps up and it's you. And then you have to go into SNL and it's meta. Oh my God.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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How did, I want you to, could you possibly conjure up how you felt when you saw Monstro Eliassi and when the text came on the screen that said Monstro Eliassi?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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How do you spell the name Eris?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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If his name was Eris, he's had a hard two years. No.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The more you do it.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Yeah. Monstro Elisa Sue. I think because I saw it from home.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Oh my God. Yes. I forgot the gentleman's name.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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I turned him out and I was like, I slowly sobbed.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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The boxer. Yeah.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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We did say we couldn't do holding space jokes anymore.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Only for you, you little rascal.
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Yeah, he did. Minutes in, he was like, this is the best movie ever.
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I don't know. You'd have to ask them. And it's rude in some cultures. Yeah, in some cultures, that's rude.
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I don't think that's what they're called. Neighbor hack. Neighbor hack. Neighbor.
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I had a question about, I know you're off the clock. I can feel the veins in my eyes. Is this normal? Which is not the brain. Yeah, no. No, I'm not saying the brain.
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You are evil. And your behavior is evil. And it's been evil ever since the traitors were chosen. Ever since Alan made his choice. I love whenever they say since Alan made his choice, like as if Alan coming himself is actually picking. But there's something important in the tone that Sarah is embodying, which is you're being evil.
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So you're an egomaniac narcissist. So you're a solipsist.
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It's his day.
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This is all his dream, isn't it?
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You have to watch The Apprentice.
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No, the movie. The movie was Sebastian. I love The Apprentice, the TV show. So does Bo and Yang. I loved it. It was like the back in the day.
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I liked it too. It was the best show.
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I did like The Apprentice back in the day when it was all fun and games. Yes. I'm talking about The Apprentice 2024 with Sebastian Stan and Jeremy Strong. Essentially The Apprentice referring to the fact that Trump was Roy Cohn's apprentice.
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It's really an interesting movie.
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Yes, definitely.
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No, as long as you're okay with it.
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I mean, certainly. Okay. And I just feel like if I were to have a leaf on my head throughout the entirety of me doing my job, that's crazy that this is actually our job. If I had a leaf on my head during my entire workspace, I would think... Well, good thing you're not a Pokemon, because I think there's a Pokemon with a leaf on his head. There's leaf-type Pokemon, and you better watch your mouth.
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Chikorita. Yeah, hello. Bitch.
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Well, did I ever tell you about, I was at Sundance one year and I, this is the same year I went to her store and I saw Meredith at an after party and I turned to her and I just go, Meredith, you know, I root for you and Lisa. And she literally turns to me and she goes, well, explain to me how that would work.
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I think you just kind of get over things when you're a housewife.
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Yeah, you're a piece of shit. You're a fucking liar. You're a bitch. That's literally what she says. Like, looking her in the eyes. No, you are. You're a liar, Lisa. You're a liar, Lisa.
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She said something like, everyone knows how to do the show and we're a good cast and we're together. And also I did hear, I think Joel saw Meredith somewhere and he was like, so how are you feeling about the season? And Meredith fully with a big smile was like, I loved it. Everyone really came to work this year. Like, they're loving it. They're amazing.
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Like, Angie Kay came on the show and you could tell she felt like a queen. As she should. As she should.
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Not a costume, honey.
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Well, she kept saying mama. Mama, this is fashion. Stop. I'm a Bronwyn fan. I don't get this Bronwyn hatred.
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If you're anyone on Salt Lake, you're Lisa Barlow.
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No, you're not. Who am I? Get this right. You know.
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We saw ourselves in the first season when Meredith tells Lisa, Seth and I are separating.
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Meredith's like, it's okay.
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Trampoline with eyes is underrated. Trampoline with eyes.
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Angie. One foot in the grave and another on a banana peel. How does that even work?
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That you have one foot in the grave and another on a banana, which means what to you? Half clown, half dead. Pagliacci's curse.
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Oh, I know what you're talking about.
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That's trampoline with eyes. No, and then.
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And also make sure it says subscribe to Lost Culture Recess underneath it. Do it again, in fact. Do it again.
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Or should we say subscribe to iHeart? Y'all, I can't with y'all. Y'all are some clowns, really for real. Really for real, what?
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Yeah, yeah, get into this. Should this be a two-part episode? Should this be called Monstro Sarah Nicole part one? Hell, oh my God. And then we'll do Monstro Sarah Nicole part two.
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Oh, Jesus Christ. I forgot about that.
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Do you believe people are born wicked? Or do they have wickedness thrust upon them?
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Really too. Take it back. Especially this week. Me really too. It's not me too. It's the sequel. Me really too.
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You thought we were stomping it out the first time? No, no. Me really too.
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Pussy grabs back and this time it reeks.
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Rule of culture number 1,000. We've never gone that high, you fucking freak. You really came in here and said, you really said, it's Sarah's culture.
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Well, he passed. He's dead. Dead man.
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Yeah, yeah, get into this. Sorry.
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Oh, no. She's a brain scientist, not a climate scientist.
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Just because they're shaped the same, a big circle. A brain and a globe.
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Did you tell her all this? Peanut-headed bitch.
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We didn't even know you had a second thing.
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You have such a good head for wigs.
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It makes me laugh immediately when I see you in a red bob.
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You as a blonde, I love too.
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We just knew there was a first thing.
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Oh, Tina Turner wig.
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Oh, that was great.
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Were you playing Reba? but it was a Reba wig.
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Quite frankly, we've had it. Pee-wee, we understand. Pee-wee.
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I'm pretty good. I'm pretty good at singing. I work hard.
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What did your neighbors say?
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Because you said- That's beautiful.
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Because he's done with me and the singing. I need to pee so bad.
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You've been dealing with a lot with that.
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Girl, girl. Get real, girl.
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What did your climate, what did your, sorry, brain scientist say about the climate?
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Brain scientists apparently don't watch Real Housewives. What's crazy about the Bronwyn dog attack is she got attacked by her favorite thing because she's got all those dogs named after the House of Cards characters. The show is the best show on television, I'm sorry. All my dogs are named after characters from my favorite show, House of Cards. An insane show.
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So what was the culture that made you say culture was for you, Sarah?
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Let me... Oh, my God.
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I'm going to light you on fire. Let me be frank.
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And this girl is naming... I mean, House of Cards was like 2013. It's an old show. So she must have started binging like a few years ago.
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Yeah, they're not like housebroken. I mean, if she had started the show when it came on, like many of us did... And then I guess she might have named her dog. I would imagine her first dog was named Frank and you'd think the second one was Claire. Those dogs are old now. Those are old dogs. Really old. 13-year-old dogs.
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So bless up. She started watching House of Cards after everything came out. After everything came out about Kevin Spacey, she said, not only am I going to start streaming, I'm going to name all my pets after this. This is just conjecture. We don't know. They could be. They got money.
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You know, those dogs have money. They can get everything replaced.
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It's almost Valentine's Day. Time to find your bowl mate. Bowl mate? This Valentine's Day, rewards members get a free entree when you order an entree and drink at Qdoba. Well, wait. I still want to know about bowl mates. Tell me more. Well, it's only open to rewards members. Sign up in the Qdoba app to redeem the offer. Valid in restaurant or online. Only on February 14th.
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Look at that melody. And another on appeal.
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You need to be in the Minions movies. Wait, Eric and Jane, we're on appeal. For legal reasons. We're on appeal. We're on appeal. For legal reasons.
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What do you have to say to Kyle Richards? Talk to the camera. Because after you say it, we're going to do I Don't Think So Honey and then we're going to let him pee finally. Please.
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Who's the power?
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I think unfortunately she's the power and we've given her too much of it. I agree.
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My take on Kyle is she literally, the cameras are only there for her own comfort because I do think she's dealing with a pretty real thing, which is that she's, Separate from her husband, he's not around and none of her kids are around. So I think the cameras are there more so that she can have- Keeps the voices at bay.
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People that she knows there so she doesn't spin out, but she shouldn't be on the reality show anymore if she's not willing to portray her reality, which she's not willing to do in any shape or form. Period. No, you're very right. Philosopher King. Tell your brain scientist neighbor to chew on that for once. The ozone's making him spit fire. Yeah. Dog attacks are up, you know.
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Yeah, she was. And you made a joke out of it. You made humor out of it. And it sucked. It wasn't comedy. It was humor. And Sarah, it sucked to sit here while you did that. Cheering on violence against women.
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If you don't laugh, you'll cry, I believe the phrase goes. The old adage.
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Too funny, too furious. That's all you had to say to Kyle?
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Like and subscribe to Lost Culture.
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Oh, Kyle would have been good in that. She should have been Lily Rose Depp's role. Goldie Rose Depp? Lily Rose Depp. I thought you said Goldie Rose Depp. Goldie Rose Depp would be funny.
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Britney Bateman? Yeah. Did you see Nosferatu? Yes, clearly. You saw it. It was awesome. You loved it. Your top two of the year are Nosferatu and Substance.
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It's the laughing episode. The substance is about to rack up lots of Oscar nom.
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Great. So, Valentine's Day is coming up. You know, everybody's going to be dining out with their soulmate. Well, not everybody. I mean, it's hard to find your soulmate. True. But, you know, it's easy to find your bowlmate at Qdoba. Ha, I follow you. Bowlmate. Someone to share your Qdoba with. That's right. Because everybody can get exactly what they want at Qdoba.
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You can create your own tacos, burritos, and bowls.
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Right? But here's the kicker. You can get a free entree this Valentine's Day when you order an entree and drink. Oh, one for you and one to share? Right. And then your bowlmate becomes just all mate, but it's only open to rewards members. So sign up in the Qdoba app and join Qdoba rewards to redeem the offer valid in restaurant or online only on February 14th.
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The truth is, the road can feel unpredictable, like it's out to get you at every turn. But it doesn't have to be that way. Hyundai's available advanced safety technology is designed to help keep you protected against the many challenges the road throws your way.
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From forward collision avoidance assistant to blind spot view monitor, our vehicles offer available features designed to help safeguard you and your loved ones.
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The standard forward collision avoidance assist can help prevent or mitigate accidents by alerting you of an imminent collision and automatically applying the brakes if you don't.
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With available class-exclusive safety features, Hyundai lets you enjoy the journey with confidence, knowing that your car is working hard to help avoid the dangers of the road from getting you.
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Is your schedule crazy? Just want some me time?
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Sounds like a dream, right?
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Up and Up always gets the job done and always at an affordable price. Up and Up has all your favorites at unbeatable prices, only at Target. This is our famous segment, Sarah, where we take one minute to really take down something in a culture that we feel deserves it. This is our moment to do that. Yes. Do you have something? I don't really have anything. Okay. But do you?
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It's really, it's such a beautiful place.
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I know about it. Yeah, okay. Then it's going to be amazing. I can go first. Okay. This is Bowen Yang's I Don't Think So Honey, and his time starts now.
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I love remaining there. I sit there sometimes and I'm like, I'm going to remain. Remain. Not exit. Remain. No, I will remain.
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What do you do successfully? Humidifier, I ask you this. To Trinity K1A, to be honest. To Trinity. Oh, I thought it was still a ganja. 15 seconds. That's an amazing season of television. Great season. RuPaul's Drag Race season six. And we're going to be reviewing it. And we're going to be reviewing. We're doing a recap podcast on our Patreon. Just kidding.
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Humidifier. Good job. Thank you. That was one minute.
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Sort of like your vagina. Sort of like your vagina. Laganja should have won that season. That was an amazing season. For her impact on culture, she should have won. Oh, absolutely. You know what? Put my time on. This is that, brothers. I don't think Sony's time starts now. I don't think so, honey, that Lugandra Estranja didn't win season six of RuPaul's Drag Race. You're still quoting it.
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You're still obsessed. Bianca, we love you. We're not quoting. I guess I just did. Not today, Satan.
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You know what, Bianca? You deserve your victory. It should have been a tie. The Monet X Change Trinity K Bonet tie shouldn't have been a tie. Lugandra should have tore up that win just like she tore up the whole season. I don't know. And I feel very attacked that she didn't win. In fact, you know what? I've actually hung out with LaGonda Estrada, a lovely person.
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And let the girls have their marijuana if they needed to be right, because she probably would have actually ate down on that season.
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Even more than she already did if they had allowed her her little medicinal marijuana.
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What Remains, Oprah's bestseller.
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Of all weeks, you pick this week? I don't think so, honey. And we're not headed in the right direction in this country. We're not. And that's one minute.
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Sort of like over John. Can we? Hey, hey, hey.
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My name is Laganja. Hold on. We need to do it. We need to pull up and do a reading. Laganja, stand up. Set. And also, I respect the hell out of her that she will not return to the show. Oh, really? Yeah, but I'm sure they've asked many times because who wouldn't want to see that? She came back to absolutely slay a lip sync to Dua Lipa's physical.
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It was a total knockout. But she won't return to the show to compete because it's like she's had it.
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What is it?
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And it was not very easy growing up. What? like this. Whether I was playing in my grandma's clothes or putting on a show for my well-organized alphabetically ordered beanie babies, I was ga-ga-ga-ga gay. Oh, Kurt. But it wasn't until I moved to Los Angeles that I discovered marijuana. I mean, I like to smoke. Y'all, I'm just flying high as your receding hairline, okur.
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You're thinking of What Lies Beneath. What Lies Beneath? You're thinking of What Happened by Hillary Clinton. Which was about the election. What Remains.
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Marijuana really does help me calm down. So, y'all, I went to Valencia where they film the TV show Weeds. Now, y'all, it's very dry. It's almost kind of like your vagina. Can I get an amen? Amen! Now, y'all, I'm a tree hugger because if it ain't green, I'm not interested. Can I tell you something?
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Had she done this in a way that, like, at the time really owned it, like, had she been high, this would have been, like, had she come out and done this, like, it to me is funny. Because if it ain't green, I'm not interested. That's a killer. But this is what I'm saying is she created what comedy is. Right. Like, this podcast wouldn't exist. Right. You think this podcast would exist?
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Angie K needs a set at the comedy cellar. We need Angie K and Laganja Estranja doing like a travel show together.
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Absolutely. I bet Angie K smokes some reefer. Don't laugh, Rebecca.
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You with the shapes of tips of things. The shapes of tips of things.
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You said it might be a triangle. It might be a triangle. You asked like 15 times.
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I know. I appreciate a house that's really dangerous to live in. That's actually my aesthetic. A hazardous place where if you even think about bringing your kids, they're going to get hurt. Don't bring kids into my house.
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Exactly. My house is ice cold and pointy as shit.
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Monica's mother, we forgot how crazy that was. The craziest woman.
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That's what it was. Tippi Hedren. Yes. Thank you.
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What the hell was Monica's mom's name? Linda Darnell.
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Linda Hedren. Linda Darnell. You were right. Tippi Hedren. All right. So this is Sarah's.
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Okay. Oh, shit. This is Sarah Sherman's. I don't think so, honey. Her time starts now.
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Just the way I like it.
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Hey, you stupid monks. Change it back, you freaks, you queerdos. Freakish monks. Get fucked, monks.
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So what was the culture that made you say culture?
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Yeah, do the accent.
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Oh, my God, that sucks.
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You're on SNL. Hey.
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Because Sarah's buying.
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Oh, no, I stopped.
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Yeah, a week like this. Yes. Wow.
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No, this was a saga. But I thought it had been resolved. I thought you had found the patchouli again.
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It smells like pussy on the shelf.
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I got a UTI from holding in this piss.
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Well, it's, you know, I've been holding it in for a while. I asked for the third time if it's that bad. More time has passed.
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We've actually been saying now for several months that we're going to get into Twin Peaks.
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Is that where... Who's your favorite Roy? Oh!
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Kendall Roy triggers me in an insane way. Because that's Long Island.
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Yeah. If they had had money, which around me, well, whatever. Yeah, you're right. That's why it triggers me.
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That he has to pee really bad. No, wait, what did you remember?
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That's a traumatic memory.
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They have to switch out the cards because we've been going for two hours. So we're going to end it. This has been so wonderful. It was great to get to know you a little bit better.
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The great thing about you guys having... Booked SNL is now you get to go hang out with each other even more. And you know what I want you guys to do? Ride something together this week. We are.
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It's crazy. We end every episode with a song.
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Yeah, that's actually true. That's actually so true.
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You literally go, you guys are being evil. You guys are being evil.
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Do you think you'd be a good traitor or a bad traitor? You'd be an amazing traitor.
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It's like, you're both the same in that way. Everyone's like, oh, Sarah's being Sarah.
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Can I tell you? I noticed it. You doing a straight man role is my favorite thing.
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And we're supposed to. But Sarah is truly joy personified.
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Can you do your court face, please?
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Did you know you actually looked like a supermodel?
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Oh, you do like the Lea Michele thing, like this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You were Monstro.
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But like skinny, chic, hot. Right. Cigarette dangling from the lips. Nosfer Sarah.
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Monstro Nosfer Sarah.
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Monstro Nosfer Sarah.
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Title of ep. Title of ep. Monstro Sarah Nicole.
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That's how you know he's a professional. That's how you know I'm professional. The way it rolls off my tongue. I know when we get the title. And Monstro Sarah Nicole is the title.
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That's amazing.
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Wait, on sweating.
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Just to talk about the traders one more time. What is going on with Santa Claus?
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Is he having some sort of withdrawal? Oh, it's withdrawal.
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That's what it is.
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Here's the Vanderpump rules. He never acts like that. He goes to a Scottish palace where they have no phones. He has to travel internationally. Yeah, and then suddenly- He can't bring the drugs in there. He couldn't sit still, and he's sweating so much more than everyone else. Totally, yes.
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You don't have to be afraid in here.
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What's the point?
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It was actually really rough because they voted out some good people really quickly.
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The survivor people that have gone, it's kind of a shame. Yeah.
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Tony and Jeremy. Jeremy, yeah. I'm sorry.
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Are you not caught up?
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You got to tell him that he's the godfather of viral comedy? That's amazing. I'm sure he was very happy to hear that.
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And I'm going to say this. And I know he's listening. That is one of the true beauty's hunks of time.
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Yeah. But then there's a, there's an implied self-made funniness in them that has to like be present for them to laugh at your jokes. You know what I mean?
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But sometimes on your show, you are doing the legwork of like, I'm going to like really guide this in a funny direction. And like my guest is someone who like is going to have to like just follow along with me. But like, I think my favorite interview of yours is with Cher.
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That was one of my favorite interviews because what I will never forget is you asking her, what does it feel like to be an icon? And she goes, it doesn't feel like anything.
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So profound.
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What was that day like? Did you have the full hour with her?
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My only interaction with her on Friday backstage at the concert because I was back there getting ready to intro Gaga. Because you were... And then, but Cher was up before me
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It's crazy at Radio City.
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But she was as far away from me as like that camera is. And I'm like not... I can see her. I can sense her presence. She's there. I'm like... truly collapsing into myself. Like, God, I fucking love this person. And she is like, you know, kind of just like in her space, getting in her zone, like people are surrounding her, like her team is surrounding her.
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And I'm trying not to look at her, but then I just glance up and then she's looking back at me and she smiles and just waves like the sexiest, most subtle little wave. And it like hit me like a lightning bolt. And then in that moment, I was like, I know what I would say to Cher, but I'm not going to say it. And I kind of am glad I didn't, but I kind of regret that I didn't either.
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What would it be? This is what it would be. You're funnier than any comedian. You're more beautiful than any supermodel. And you are more influential than any religious figure. I love you.
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Like that's Cher.
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And you know why. We are coming at you fresh off of the SNL 50 afterparty. Literally, it happened, it ended not 12 hours ago.
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I get it. She'd sound good on it too.
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Yes. I feel the power.
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And I feel the power.
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Chris Martin was on the keys.
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So funny.
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You've talked to him on the show.
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So charismatic and brilliant. But he was, we were at the Seaford restaurant and he's at his table eating out of a Tupperware, like veggies and tofu. Meal prepped. That's the Gwyneth influence. It's like, this is a health nut.
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Like it's 1902. We were pounding G&T's the way. Very British of us.
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Like Moby Dick.
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Who are the people?
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There's a book called Moby Dick.
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Well, that was your first mistake. It's rule of culture number eight.
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I hear it's an amazing book.
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Who is your... Who's my Moby Dick? Who's your Moby Dick? Yeah, who's your Moby Dick? Moby, the singer.
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Yeah. She would do it.
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She would absolutely do it.
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She was on another level. I saw her with the martini glass all night. Classy. Classy girl. Classy girlina. What?
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This is great.
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what I want to with this show.
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Me too. Well, I met our guest at an SNL after party. And immediately I was like, the vibe is impeccable. The vibe is impeccable. Also instant friendship. Instant friendship. And then, so it was the three of us plus Zoe. Can we mention her by name? Zoe plus, oh my God, you really are being so compliant. But by not speaking, please continue your compliance. This is great.
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So let's say, let's work backwards from you fall in love with someone that you meet on the show.
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It's presumably someone who is a guest.
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Could be a crew member.
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Okay.
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One of the guys, one of Cher's nephews.
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Right, right, right. Gay nephews. Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on. So you fall in love with a guest.
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it's like you check in after you shoot the thing, right? Because it's like, is there a part of you that's like, when the cameras are rolling, it's like for entertainment, for the show. But then like afterwards, you're like, I need to check. I need to be one-on-one with this person.
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I'm not saying that. I'm saying it can and it will. We just have to be really intentional about this. Like, Are you like going, like, you don't, you're like, fuck these cameras. I'm going to seduce this person.
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Well, I was meaning to ask you, I was like, Amelia, how do you, you do have this natural, and Cynthia Erivo said this, like you have this natural capacity and this talent. I call it a talent because I lack this of flirting. You flirt very well.
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So then what's that about? So like it can happen, right?
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Right. Well, let's say there's been a recent example of you flirting with someone and successfully having it, you know, be a fun thing. Let's walk through that. Let's break a recent example down. Any recent example.
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And then we can all do the same. Because I actually do want to self-examine a bit. About flirt style? Because I'm like, I identify as not a good flirter. But I think the three of us have successfully courted someone.
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And so it is like a roll of the dice.
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So once you sense it, you're like, okay, I'm in.
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Okay, great. You're a pursuer at that point.
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And it was the four of us plus Celeste Yim, famed SNL writer. Oh. And it was the five of us being a little unit all night. And anytime y'all would leave to go get a drink at the bar, don't speak. Celeste, we would all check in and be like, I mean the DeMaldenbergs. Love. Just come on. It doesn't get any better than that.
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Where they're already in a relationship and they're open. Yeah.
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Of course.
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You needed to weed whack.
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You lost me. You lost me there.
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I was talking to a guy, same deal. But I knew going into it that he was married and whatever. We were maybe planning the logistics of it. And then I just made an offhand comment where I was like, And also, I don't know, like I might just be emotionally like in a different place than you because there are just different stakes to this. He was like, what do you mean? What do you mean?
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What do you mean? And he was being obtuse. And I was like, you know, like you are in a relationship and I am like. Not. I'm literally putting this in the calendar because this is like the one window this week where I can have relations with someone. And he was like. I need you to explain this a little bit more. I'm like this, what are you talking about? Like some of these guys play dumb with it.
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But this is what I want to drill into is because you're mentioning this moment of like, are we, is this, are we? Like that's the thing that is the blockage usually where it's like, it's not cool to ask, are we, is this, are we out loud? I think it is.
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Are we saying here as a trio, like if you have to ask, then it's a bad sign?
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You just can't. London Summers. Should we do Mighty Hoopla with you? Would you come to Mighty Hoopla with us?
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We went a couple years ago.
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It would be, I mean, you would be mobbed.
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It was a blast.
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We saw Jake Shears. Jake Shears.
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We saw. What does Kelly Rowland do?
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Beyoncé was in London doing Tottenham the same weekend as Mighty Hoopla. Renaissance. Renaissance the same weekend as Mighty Hoopla. And Kelly was doing Mighty Hoopla, so there was just this...
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all these rumors mean like Kelly's gonna show up to Renaissance or Beyonce's gonna show up to Mighty Hoopla which was less likely that would be iconic would be iconic Mighty Hoopla that was me as Beyonce greeting Mighty Hoopla what's that park in South London that it's at?
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100%.
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Oh, and that can be the most vulnerable place. When you see someone with curlers in their hair, you see their soul. When you see a patchology gel under eye thing. I love that stuff. You want to know why? It works. Sometimes. Huh? Sometimes the bags do be staying. And you go, why did I... Put this slime on my face for 20 minutes. Amanda, anything? Okay. Can I tell you something?
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You were at the party.
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Let's ask Amelia the question.
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Amelia de Moldenberg, what is the culture that made you say culture is for me?
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Underrated though.
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I don't know the challenge.
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The Olsen twins did the challenge.
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I am. But the MTV show, is there a British show called the challenge?
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Oh, like an Amazing Race kind of thing?
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What was the Sleepover series again?
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Aren't they expensive? But they last and they're good quality. Bo has the row.
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A complete unknown.
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Election. Yeah. So good.
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You would love. Emilia, it's your kind of movie.
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Reese Witherspoon is in a way like the Olsen girl of her time.
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Of her micro generation. Who's favorite Reese Witherspoon?
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I do. Yeah.
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Elwoods.
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You have an Elwoods quality about you.
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I mean, that is the highest compliment.
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He's telegenic and he has, but... He's the most presentable of his family. I'm going to say one thing that happened last night, and this truly happened. There's so many things that happened.
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That's the buzz. Criterion Collection. Election. Yeah. That's like, it's like, it's one of those movies that you're just like, it's undeniable. I think you would love it.
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Yeah.
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Tonight. It actually would be a great movie for tonight.
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Drive me nuts. I can look at my phone every 20 minutes or so. If I, if I wanted to. Adapted screenplay, Oscar nominee. That's right.
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I was like a gold derby kid. Okay, we're going to the Oscars for the first time.
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What are your tips?
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Okay.
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There's a lot of light and a lot of darkness to reveal.
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Your dad is adorable, by the way. Is that so patronizing? He's so wonderful. He seems like such a charming man.
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Well, yeah.
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Kind of Olsen twins vibe.
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Very that. Who's who? Depends on the movie. I'm sorry. We've been over this.
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We'll have to really see.
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To be continued.
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No, but we were, Full House was a thing in Canada. Okay. For sure.
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We're naming off so many movies. Are we in retrospect a little bit like, fuck, I mean, what was their life? They were just working these kids to the fucking bone.
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But also, what were you going to say?
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But also like they are so like, we don't want to be seen at all.
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Like, that's the reactionary thing to, like, being in show business at that young age.
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Absolutely.
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Little Miss Miss Worldwide.
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You know, they never did really Little Miss Miss Worldwide.
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Of course. For like, you know. Just growing up, being sexual. Yeah. It's the Britney thing. It's the, yeah.
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They just skipped straight to dating like an older French guy.
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Not Jesse Tyler Ferguson. The dad in Modern Family. Oh, Ed O'Neill? Ed O'Neill. Remember there was that Modern Family episode where they did like a moon landing? I really do. Where they touched butts in the locker.
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This has been on my to-do list. Like a dating pros and cons list. Have we done this exercise?
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Like things that you're like, he needs to be at least these things. French billionaire.
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Right. And so you're like, well, does he have to be a billionaire? Yeah.
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Right.
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They touched butts in the locker, in the men's locker room.
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Of course. I do it. The New York thing, I'm curious if this is the same in London. The New York thing is everyone thinks that they can do better than the person they're with.
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yep on some level I feel like that's a thing now just in like society I know because you've got too many options it's literally like it's like browsing through Netflix it's like well let me keep looking because there's some I'm like at about a six or a seven in terms of watching this show about you know like
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This documentary that's like, I'm kind of interested, but I'm sure there's something that's going to take me over the edge. And you just keep, it's online shopping. It's like.
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Are you Eric Stonestreet or are you Ed O'Neill? We were both clothed.
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I know. No, I've caught myself in that for sure.
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It's closer. Yeah.
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You.
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Great movie. It's one of the great films.
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Wait, good American accent.
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Yeah? You've been told that.
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Okay, we're going to write something for you. Yeah. Oh, please. We'll take care of you. We'll take care of you. You don't have to audition ever again. Wait. I see something for Amelia.
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For sure. No, like, we're, yeah. We're being so annoying. We're being so fucking annoying. You are literally so annoying. And we're being such bitches. Bitches.
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Wait, I did an impression of you last night on the carpet, right? What did I say again?
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Get out the measuring stick.
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No, I said Andrew Garfield loves me.
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Sweetheart. Okay, but I still don't want to finish this conversation about the potential of falling in love on the show for you.
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Yeah. And then there was just double booking. There was a double booking.
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No, and it's my fault.
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I just wanted to open that door. Your work isn't over.
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Perfected the form of the interview. You break chicken out, you bring smiles out. Perfected the art of the edit. Uh-huh. This is Sean Baker found dead. This is the new editrix queen of Hollywood.
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Do you vomit when you're hungover?
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You do? Did you vomit last night?
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Good. So that means like it's backed up. It's coming up.
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It's so much funner. It's so much more fun to ask.
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That wasn't a British accent. But it's not an accent, it's the inflection. It's the inflection, Amelia. It's like, in America, you ask a question like this, and in the UK, you ask a question like this.
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Do you know?
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Soapy. Hello.
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Okay, we got to get you out of here. We all got to get out of here. No, I don't fucking.
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I would like to see our guest in the edit room for Sean Baker's next film.
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It is love. Very, very nice. Yeah. That's beautiful perspective.
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Do you have your Oscars dress?
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I see it.
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Yeah.
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Everything is so connected. Well, it's a specific window. It's like, it's the entry point into the broader scope of culture.
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Gag! Title of ep. Anora 2 colon Amelia. It's time. This... She hosts Chicken Chop Date, the iconic Chicken Chop Date. She is... Now a fixture and a welcome presence at any red carpet event, which is almost always more stress than it's worth until you see our guest.
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That's why. Yeah, his back is meshed.
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Just for ventilation, of course.
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Yeah, he's Brad-coded. You know, just a little bit.
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And your shoes. And my shoes. Well, you had Charlie on, didn't you?
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I know. She had a great episode. I think it was one of my favorites. It's a viral moment. I'm not.
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That was a good moment.
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Oh my God.
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You guys would, sparks would be flying.
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What if you homewrecked?
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I don't want you in your homewrecker era.
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Exactly.
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No, you don't. No, please. You want to be on snark subs or whatever. Okay. It's time for I don't think so, honey.
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Killing the carpet last night with my girl, Matt Rogers.
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Sometimes.
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We'll talk about the glam bot. But she, for the second year in a row, will be a correspondent at the red carpet at the Oscars.
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Yeah, do you? I can't.
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I thought you were going to say something else. I thought you were going to say it makes me go shit.
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Poop.
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I'm ready.
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This is Matt Rogers. I don't think so, honey. His time starts now.
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Not poop. I'm so hungover.
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That was quite searing. That was pretty...
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But I do want to say for context, the line, you vile fecal woman, was in response to your character taunting me by saying that you had eaten my husband's ass out.
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I was going to say poo is cute.
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No, poo is like you're dancing around it.
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P-O-O is cute.
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But poop is a palindrome. A what? Spelled the same way front as it is back.
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A new word today.
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All right. Matt's got a sunglass. I've left the building. Actually, you've inspired me. Yeah? I'm not going to do a letter. I'm going to do something else.
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You can guess.
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I don't think so, honey. The number nine. What are you giving? Prime number, square number? That's all you have going on. That's all you will ever be. Let's go through them. One, amazing iconic. Two, amazing iconic. Three, one of the most important numbers, the rule of three. Four, I like. And Beyonce. Four, great Beyonce album. Five, really important. You need the halfway to 10.
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You really need that as a benchmark in accounting system. Six, I like. I love six. Seven, oh, name a prettier number than seven. Eight, I love eight. You ate. You ate. Nine. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Nine? What are you giving us? You might as well be 10. You know what I mean?
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What are you doing nine? You're pussyfooting around 10. I think you should nut up- Five seconds. And go up to 10 or go down to eight because that's a prettier number. Or you might as well be seven because nothing beats seven.
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Why? Because seven ain't nine. And because nine is- Nine can only be eaten and nine will never eat.
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Because you think it's catching strays and did nothing to deserve it.
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Do you have nine in your sort of date of birth or anything? No, absolutely not. Excuse me, 1989?
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I'm born in 1990. I'm made of the stuff.
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Yeah.
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So good. She's like throwing ass.
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Of eight and a half. It's like a retail, reimagining of eight and a half.
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Random.
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I'll take it over nine.
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Might as well be ten. Also, we're not elevating that transphobes work.
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JK. Charlie and Troy. They just want to go back.
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I find nine quite chic when it's next to another nine or any other number.
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Nine is so chic.
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I don't know, y'all. Nine by itself. I don't enjoy. It gives me anxiety. I say, go to 10.
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I don't think it matters. Well, how does the wind chill in New York compare to the wind chill in London?
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I think that is a lot of restraint. 10 is whole. 10 is.
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I'm sorry, it's not. I take that back, of course. I can't believe I knew a number thing. You didn't. I'm deeply mistaken.
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Look at you guys reminiscing. Have y'all 69 recently? Because it's always like, I don't know. It's all canceling out.
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I kind of love it.
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I kind of love it. I like it in theory. I'm thinking about it. I'm going, oh, that's nice.
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Someone's a six and someone's a nine.
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No.
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But do you understand why it's 69? No. So it's... So look. All right, Bowen. We have to show her. This is what it is. It's like... All right. Let's show her. One person is... Like, this is the tail. And then that's... And then, see? Like, it's like we're symmetrical.
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You have to be down on your back?
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My favorite thing to do. You guys want to all kiss?
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Challengers. Oh, wow.
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You're Zendaya, obviously, but then who are we? I'm... I think I might be Feist, I guess.
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I'm Josh. You're like the scuzzier, messier one. No, that's a compliment. I'm for the streets.
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I wish I was for the streets.
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There's a shy girl song where she's like, she goes, I'm for the streets, bitch.
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Really good. I'm for the streets, bitch. All right, are you ready to show the streets what you got? You said you had something. I did. Okay, this is Amelia DeMaldemar. I don't think so, honey. Her time starts now.
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Okay, what?
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Wow.
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Smelt bad.
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What? Magic? Oh.
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15 seconds.
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And that's one minute.
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Appropriate in the sense that like… It's not appropriate really to be a magician. It's lying. It's lying.
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Right.
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I can appreciate it. But like, what if they're like, we're going to pay you $5 million if you learn magic.
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How are we going to maintain a friendship?
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You should find a lane. You should do fashion magic. Fashion?
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Yeah, David Blaine.
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We don't know. I don't know.
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But you can still like him if he's canceled.
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That's the only option?
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Because we're not coming to London all that much.
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Penn and Teller, right?
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They should have just hung it up. Also, Magic Castle, get the carpet cleaner out.
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Have you been there? I've not been there. Have you been there? Have you been there?
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Well, you're right. I actually have to say, I think we should go more. I think we should go more. I need to get back on, I need to recalibrate my London experience because for a while it was.
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No, did you get invited?
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By a magician. And how did you know this magician?
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Were you trying to smash?
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That was brutal. In the best way. I'm on your side completely.
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Amelia de Moldenberg, what a true delight it's been to be with you this week.
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But like truly for multiple days.
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We feel the same way about you. I remember meeting you at that after party and being like, you just, I mean, we just have to have you on. Yeah. I'm so glad. I'm so glad it happened.
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It's true. Yeah. Did we start around the same time?
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So another year or so. We're at the nine year mark.
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I'm sure we will. We love to do an event.
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We love to eventize. We love to eventize and maybe we'll see you at the awards. I think you're going to be nominated.
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You know what? Let me work. Let me work. Could be good. Could be good.
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And it was, it's one of the great cities of the world.
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All right. We end every episode with a song. And here we go.
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Why this key?
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Fish don't fry in the kitchen. Bye. Bye. Thank you. Created and hosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang.
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"Little Miss Miss Worldwide" (w/ Amelia Dimoldenberg)
Throughout history.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Little Miss Miss Worldwide" (w/ Amelia Dimoldenberg)
And produced by Becca Ramos. Edited and mixed by Doug Bain and Monique Laborde.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Little Miss Miss Worldwide" (w/ Amelia Dimoldenberg)
I do still associate with oh God, I'm landing at Heathrow. Oh no, God, I'm getting stressed out and I have to like figure out the rest of my week. And it was like, for a while, it was the site of my darkest moments. We shot the movies for a year total.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Little Miss Miss Worldwide" (w/ Amelia Dimoldenberg)
There's two of them.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Little Miss Miss Worldwide" (w/ Amelia Dimoldenberg)
No, you're right. No, we need to come to London more. Where are you? You're a Marylebone girl. You grew up there.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Little Miss Miss Worldwide" (w/ Amelia Dimoldenberg)
Oh, wait. Hackney.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Little Miss Miss Worldwide" (w/ Amelia Dimoldenberg)
You want a pie? No.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Little Miss Miss Worldwide" (w/ Amelia Dimoldenberg)
You want the pub.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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100%.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Little Miss Miss Worldwide" (w/ Amelia Dimoldenberg)
Now, what if in theory you fall in love with someone here?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Little Miss Miss Worldwide" (w/ Amelia Dimoldenberg)
She loves her life where she is. I know. I'm just putting some hypotheticals out there. We need to come more to you.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Little Miss Miss Worldwide" (w/ Amelia Dimoldenberg)
Do you want to be nominated? You actually should. Oh my God. I feel like that's, for some reason, I'm going to say. Yeah. Beneath you.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Little Miss Miss Worldwide" (w/ Amelia Dimoldenberg)
No, it's only beneath you at our show. At our show. You know what I mean? Yeah. In every other capacity, it's like, well, there's no one better. But for us, it's like, you got to be on, you got to be in the full thing.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Little Miss Miss Worldwide" (w/ Amelia Dimoldenberg)
I think so.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Little Miss Miss Worldwide" (w/ Amelia Dimoldenberg)
100%.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Little Miss Miss Worldwide" (w/ Amelia Dimoldenberg)
Well, what was the overall bounce on last night? Yeah, what was the bounce?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Little Miss Miss Worldwide" (w/ Amelia Dimoldenberg)
We were there. And then there we were. And we had stayed. And we had stayed. But I will say, I mean, like, we were saying that we were getting starstruck for the first time in a long time. Just like, because it was everywhere you turned, there was just someone like, wow, wow, wow.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Little Miss Miss Worldwide" (w/ Amelia Dimoldenberg)
Right. Yeah. I mean, okay, this is the thing. Lonely Island, only one tour right before COVID. And then COVID hit, I think.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Little Miss Miss Worldwide" (w/ Amelia Dimoldenberg)
And it's like, I think we need to put the energy out there that they need to go back on tour.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Little Miss Miss Worldwide" (w/ Amelia Dimoldenberg)
Because they were saying, it's so interesting to hear our songs being sung by a crowd. Because that was never the experience. That was never why we put it out. It was only in service to a comedy bit or a sketch. It is a surreal thing to do it in front of an audience. And I think we all encourage them to do it again.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Little Miss Miss Worldwide" (w/ Amelia Dimoldenberg)
But just study, like I, so we shot this thing for the show on Sunday, but we shot it on Wednesday and just like between takes, we were just, you know, talking, chatting it up. And I was just like, I just innocently asked him, I was like, what are you, like, what are you listening to lately? And then he like pauses and then like unfurls all these things.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Little Miss Miss Worldwide" (w/ Amelia Dimoldenberg)
He's like, well, there's this Ghanaian guy who like does a lot of big band music. And then there's Cindy Lee, this like drag artist who like has a, like a rock band. And then she released like a two hour album that's like only available on YouTube.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Little Miss Miss Worldwide" (w/ Amelia Dimoldenberg)
And like that's been like… And he just has such an expansive… And like he knows all of his history back to like the 80s and 90s of like hip-hop and like jazz and like funk. And like he's just… A genius. That's why he and Joanna knew some work. Yeah. They're like… Those are heads. Those are music heads.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
And now you have two versions.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
Because the SoundCloud version remains.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
And if that's the one you love and there'll be a third version when you come out and, you know, do it live.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
Ding dong. Lost culture is just calling. Wow, was that the first time we were ever out of sync?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
You know what I was distracted thinking about?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
I'm surrounded by tops.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
Can I reveal something about Bowen Yang? This is the big thing that I wanted to reveal on this podcast. The other day in a personal text exchange, so that's how you know it's real because we never lie to each other. It's only ever transparent, real, honest, and more. Bowen goes, I think I legitimately might be bi.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
Don't... But the thing is, even if they are or aren't mistakes, human beings are allowed to make them. Of course. And I think that, like, one thing that people just... Whether they can't reckon with it or they don't want to because, like, people feel complicit in it is it's, like...
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
It was like unprecedented how quickly it changed for you from here to here in terms of like the amount of eyes on you and the amount of mouths flapping in regards to what you did. So it's like even in a world where it's like we've seen people go from like whatever it is, like zero to 60 or overnight success, whatever that means. Not like this. Because I remember we were at Coachella.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
We were so excited at Coachella because we were like, oh, and I was with a couple of gays who didn't know who you were yet. And that was, you know, April 2024. Yeah, it was a year ago. Meanwhile, at the end of that weekend, not only did everyone know who you were, but everyone had an opinion on you, et cetera.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
And then GovBow was a whole other fucking thing that was 15, 20 different like think pieces.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
That you're never going to get. You are never going to get what you want out of that one individual human being. It's impossible. And I don't think there's enough awareness of that or like, you know, people don't take accountability for their own actions in that regard.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
Rule of culture number 76. Every level is a level. But of course, and it's also, it's like when you have something, when you have like something that you've put out there that people have really connected with and people have a relationship with you in that regard, it gets harder, which is why I'm happy you just deleted the shit because you're in creative mode right now and you need to be.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
Yeah, but the girls you're talking about wanting to have sex with.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
Okay, don't do sexual politics with me right now. All I'm saying is Bowen has a crush on, go ahead, come out. Say it.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
I wanted to ask you, like, how is it going in terms of you treating yourself creatively?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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This is an iconic woman in history.
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Yeah.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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It's parasocial. I mean, what it is is it's like, I need to protect this person. They've expressed that they need help, or I feel like I'm projecting what I might need in that situation. But it's hard. You're saying when you look online, is it supposed to be a joke? Is this thing supposed to be funny in a time when we are...
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
Right. When very few things- Life is not funny right now. Exactly. And meanwhile, it's like, that was a really complicated, weird time because it was like, I remember getting texts from people being like, are Bowen and Chappell okay? I was like, first of all, they don't really know each other that well. Second of all, I'm sure they are.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
Third of all, why are we assuming that people don't have senses of humor? It's like, it's chaperone, y'all. It's like, I was watching your show and that's why I was describing you as like, there was like this fun pop Kesha element. You come out in this shit blonde wig and you're like, it's me, Chapel. Like, as if we weren't supposed to know. I'm like, this girl is funny. We're all having fun.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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It's pop stardom. It's, you know...
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Yeah, right. There's always silence.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Right.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Since then, we've talked and hung out. It's like, did you ever watch Nobody Wants This? That thing on Netflix? When they kiss and that song's like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. It's like that synthy romantic pop song that played when you looked at Lucy Dacus across the room. And don't think we ever forgot about your thing with Katie Gavin. Oh, yeah.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
But that in turn makes them feel good. And so it's... You know what I mean? But I agree with you. Sometimes I think we go crazy with the labels of everything.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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I know exactly where I am.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Just kidding.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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You were talking on Apple about like really what it was, was you wanted a George Strait type of song, right? Like you wanted to feel on stage like that kind of swaggy country like character. Yeah.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
Thank God Dr. Ruth is dead. She's rolling in her grave. One time I asked Dr. Ruth what she thought of PrEP. And she didn't, she couldn't, it did not compute. She was like, what? I was like, it was at the Sundance Film Festival. I was like, it's so gay guys can have unprotected sex. She goes, well, I hate that. And then I was like, oh, oh, okay. And then I, but it was fully Dr. Ruth.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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And I'm thinking she knows like what prep is and she did not. And then I was like, okay. Maybe we've missed each other in terms of like the sexual revolution.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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That's interesting.
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Yeah.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Uh-huh. Because it was like never, it was never felt like it was about you or for you.
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Yeah.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Right. Like...
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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That's crazy. No, but you know what, though? Like, it takes time to, like... I think a lot of people say this stuff because it's more a thing of... It's less them expressing what they actually like and more people being like, no, like, I do have sexual agency. I do have a sexual identity. When the fact is, it takes a lot of time. Like, I don't even think...
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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So I can't wait to see how this episode turns out. Anyway. Because... This actually is a huge moment in history because I can't believe this is true, but I think I actually have two things on record on this podcast. One was there's an episode where I literally go to you. Have you listened to Driver's License by Olivia Rodrigo? And you go, what is that?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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it wasn't until my late twenties that I was even having real sex that like consciously took me out of what I had seen in like porn or what, which I do think. And I have so much respect for everyone like in the sex work community, et cetera. But I do think when you're ingesting a lot of it young, you of course want to emulate the things that you see.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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And that is like inherently not going to be natural to you every time. So it's like, it's like,
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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in that way it becomes a teacher in a way that can be a little rocky it wasn't and i was just thinking sitting here like you know i had a great sexual experience like last week and i was like congratulations thank you so much and shout out verse also flipped you yes amazing and i've been i've really started like owning myself as like the bottom that i am but then all of a sudden love
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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So, but that's what I guess what I mean is it's like, I need to stop telling myself I'm one thing. I think we all need to stop telling ourselves our one thing and be open to those different experiences and expressions because I think a lot of it is just us wanting to belong in something.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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You gotta watch those anyway. If people are really bold at the beginning, my experience is, okay, this is for you. You know what I mean? Like, we've experienced some love bombing, and I'm sure we all have, and it's like, there's no way you're like this. Yeah. I've even asked the question. I've sat back, cocked the brow, and been like, how? How can you be this? And then they have another line.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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What's the line? The one I got was... We deserve to have good things. We're good people. And I was just like... Where'd you read that?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Snapplecap. But some... But people like... Period. Snapplecap. Snapplecap. I'm never surprised anymore... when people have rehearsed the whole thing. Like, you find out later they had a bit that they were going to do when you sat down at whatever it is they were meeting. Like, they researched things to say to you up top with your friends, especially someone like you, I would imagine.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
Yeah, no, well, yes, but also it's like, I'm going to say this joke about a celebrity because I know he likes celebrities or whatever.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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This is when it first came out and that's on record. And I believe me bringing up Chapel to you is on record on this podcast. That is also on record on this podcast as well.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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That's the thing is it's like, they're trying and everyone's trying. It's like some people think, and if I go in with an arsenal of things to say, and I really like, you know, dress rehearsed what this is going to be, I'll feel better about it. But, you know, sometimes it's just like, it is worth being like, Okay, when are we going to get to the real you? Because that could take a long time.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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I feel like... You know?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Yeah.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Yeah, right? It depends.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Oh, I know. The lip readers. We were talking about that recently.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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It's almost like it's designed for that. One thing that they really did, this is the recording out of me, had posted like, watch Chapel, watch Benson Boone, or like, watch Sabrina Carpenter, watch this person, etc. And it's just like, why are we watching these artists watch the thing? And then all of a sudden, you're like... Your finger starts going like, should I click?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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And you're like, I mean, no, it's weird. But why is that available?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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No, but then it was April 2023, I think you were at the Fonda.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Right.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Yeah.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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And I remember it was a special evening because you could feel the energy. And I remember she sang Pink Pony Club. And then she was saying, the Pink Pony Club is here. And I was like, oh, wow, it really feels like it is here. Like the L.A.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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It's about L.A., etc. That was a really special night. And I left that being like, she's the one. She's one of the ones. And now she's here.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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We want to ask you the question that we ask all of our guests, which is, Chapel Rome, what was the culture that made you say culture was for you? So basically, this can be a movie, a music artist, environmental, something about growing up, just whatever it means to you, the culture that made you you.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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You won album of the year at our culture awards before your album was even out. And I've always wanted to ask you how you felt about that.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Is that coming from where you come from? Yeah.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Yeah, I feel strange. Very Rocky Horror.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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I'm dumb. It was. It's so silly. It was earned. I remember the song that changed everything for me. I was like, wait, what the fuck was casual? Do a lot of people say that?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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You are a fairy drag queen guinea pig.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Did you know that? Yeah. And you've known that. You knew it. You knew it. You've always known it deep down.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Yeah.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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You need to keep sharing. I want to return to guinea pigs. The sentence of the day. Because I had hamsters when I was little. Yeah. And one of the most traumatic things I think I've ever been through. Did I tell you this? Every story. They were named Chip and Dale. And one day my dad said, I have to talk to you. And I was like, what?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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And then he basically was like, we don't have Chip and Dale anymore. I was like, what? They had eaten each other. Chapel. That's what happened. They had eaten each other alive. I don't know if it was throes of passion. I don't know if they had a gay fight. They ate each other at the same time. Chip and Dale killed each other. One didn't even win.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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What is that? Betta fish. They fight each other. They kill each other. It couldn't compute. And now getting older and knowing human nature and animal nature, I sort of get it. They were cooped up together for a long time.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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They were Chip and Dale.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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They're vicious.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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But what were they territorial over? Like the space?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Yes.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Yeah. God, isn't that always the case?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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And maybe I maybe we just didn't know that because I'm imagining it's the same like sociologically, I guess. I mean, they killed each other. Right.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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You personally Bowen Yang?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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I need my hay, hun. You know what I mean? Can I tell you, I'm vitamin D deficient. Me too. Are you? So do you take like a vitamin D capsule? I must. You should. Yeah. Yeah. But it's like, sometimes getting out there in the sun is like, you know, it's better in theory, but then you get sunburned.
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Yeah.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Huh.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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This is what I think. I think because gay sex is a lot more transactional and a lot more projection-y.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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so it's like actually it's funny like this person that I was sleeping with we went on our first date and he goes yeah I don't hook up a lot because I feel that it's a lot to do with like projection and I don't really need that like talking about what we were talking about earlier about how like sex actually is like two people coming together and you usually can, I find this too.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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It's like when you have like good eye contact with someone or like the conversation is easy, that's why people talk about like the banter and it like just directly translates because that's what this person was looking for and is looking for. And I think even more me and I've never really done like the cruisy thing and the, the, the like random hookup thing. Like, of course I've done, I've,
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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I've experienced it and like experimented, but like I never felt comfortable going in and out of those situations. A lot of people do. And like, that's great. But I think it has to do with just what gay guys are looking for and needing out of sex. And it's just transactional.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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No, I mean, it was the big audition.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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LA, I think, well, LA is weird because it's the, king of this looking over your shoulder it's constant and you know what it is it's like it's not even cruising as much as it more is just like constant comparison and like wondering how if you can do better that's kind of and it's not to again I hate dragging a whole city because I love LA and like but I have found with dating it is a lot harder
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Especially when like you're not like because now I just turned 35. It's like I'm kind of looking now for something that could be my next like relationship. And I understand this. Like I get it. I whatever. But it can be a little demoralizing as you get older and are looking for something else. So better to just take yourself out of the environment entirely, which is why I moved to New York.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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You can't move back.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Is it you doing it?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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And you know what they were saying? It was... The theory was that it was a bunch of short women doing it. Short women. Because they could just... Not that they're picking on the women, but that was the theory. They were picking on me.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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All the short guys were like, it's the short women. It was the short women they said. But it became like epidemic there for a while in LA.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
Send us clothes and maybe we'll figure it out. No, but yeah, no, the Grove. Wow. Imagine cruising at the Grove. It happens. One time I saw my favorite porn star at the Grove. Should I say who it is? No. His name is Chris Damned. He's great. Chris Damned? Yeah. Fun.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
But he's not like demonic. He's like quite lovely. I love it. But by the way, a lot of people are my favorites. I don't have one favorite. At the time, I was gagged because there he was at the Grove. Yeah.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
We're a star.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
Period. I hear that. I mean, when I left your show, when I first saw you, I was like, I feel like the only way to get it across is like, it feels like, and this is lame to do this, but it feels like Kesha meets like Annie Lennox. You have this like fun, you came out in this like shit blonde wig. And then you came back out with your hair and you were like, it's me, Chapel, Chapel Roan.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
Oh my God, it might be time.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
For I Don't Think So, Honey. And I was sort of going back and forth about what I was going to do. I guess I'll do this. Okay. Because we also had a caffeine conversation before getting on. Yeah, okay, I'll do this. So this is I Don't Think So Honey. It's our one-minute segment where we take 60 seconds, a.k.a. one minute, if you really think about it, to rip something apart in culture.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
I Don't Think So Honey, that coffee gives you coffee breath. That sucks. We need to figure it out. Like actually wake up in the morning and become that person where I open my eyes and I need caffeine. I don't think so, honey, that it's going to change anytime soon. Our guest is off caffeine and I feel like I'm inspired by that. But it's just another one of my strange addictions.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
I now wake up in the morning and also now I have relationships at the coffee shops. Those are my girls. I have my girls in LA and I have my girls in New York. And I just realized in this moment, I'm leaving my apartment in LA and I'm leaving my girls. That's really hard.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
But back to what I was there. So sweet. Fernanda. She also stands Lana Del Rey.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
And like literally when I said I was going to Coachella, she goes, I love Lana. She did this. And so she's an icon. But listen, the thing about coffee is it gives you coffee breath, which is so bad for kissing, speaking, breathing, et cetera, and more. And I just want to figure out a way to get my fix of caffeine and not have coffee breath, I guess. Here it is. Diet Coke, Celsius, et cetera.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
But I love coffee. I don't think so, honey.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
I think so. But it's like now it's like so built into my life getting a cold brew right away. First thing when you wake up.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
And was it just because like you were getting... Yeah, I was just like going crazy.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
So wait, do you smoke weed? Not right now?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
Yeah. So, like, basically, are you in a place right now of, like, there's nothing going in? Good.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
And we were all like laughing because there's like an awareness and there is like, this is before you were calling what you do drag, but there was such a huge drag element. You had a drag performer open up. Yeah. But yet you have this like haunting, gorgeous, like ethereal voice that I was like, I don't think we have this out there. So that's what I meant by like the Kesha meets Annie.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
I know next time.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
Well, because I think you're okay. What we're not reckoning with is it is a drug. Totally. It is a drug. Now, I actually wondered about that, like people that are in AA and stuff. Like, I wonder what the relationship is with caffeine.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
That's wild.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
Well, it's like added to the list. I'm now at the place where it's just like, I don't know why I keep doing this, but I just keep, I'm moving to a new apartment in New York and I keep associating that with the day my new life will begin. But like, you can't. That's like, that's like addict speak to yourself.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
It's like, well, I'll be, I'll be sober from this thing by age 35 or like, I'll just stop doing this on May 12th. You know what I mean? It's like, it's like, but why wouldn't you just stop doing it now? Right. Yeah. So that's me with caffeine and this would solve my coffee breath problem.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
I think very afraid of people. Like, I think the, one of the worst things that could happen is for people to be like, Oh, he has bad breath. That's bad.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
Yeah, someone's saying that. Don't worry. Anyway, don't worry about it. Okay, Bowen Yang, you actually came in galvanized today. I did. Okay, so this is Bowen Yang's I Don't Think So Honey as Time Starts Now.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
And that's what they did.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
No, you did. That was great. That was epic universe.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
I have to say, especially as two people who often are Matt and Bowen and the ampersand is in there.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
From now on, it's Matt plus Bowen, right?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
You ended ampersand today.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
Cause you've also done it. I don't think so, honey. On the letter nine. On the letter nine. No, sorry. Sesame Street, reach out. You need us there to teach the children. Wait, the number nine. So wait, if you don't like ampersand, how can you stand by the number eight?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
I do agree that handwriting an ampersand is like a mindfuck. But, you know, if you can figure it out, which it seems like you have.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
Okay. Is this the creative process? Are you always carrying around like a moleskin?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
This is... No, I know, but I'm in a world where it is yours. Bowen Ann. Bowen Ann.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
But that's uncasual on a song like that. It's funny to hear you say you're, like, more comfortable doing the beat-heavy stuff because what really, like, took me—and maybe this is just the place I was in, but was coffee, was kaleidoscope, was, like, those moments that are so, like, important and deep in your show.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
Yeah, and that's one minute. Okay, this is important. Wait. This is amazing. It's very American of people to be like, I know how teeth are supposed to look.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
Yeah.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
Right. How, what was the Invisalign process like for you? I'm actually flirting with it in my brain. Because people have started to get a little mean about my teeth.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
Wow.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
I never thought I had bad teeth. You don't. You have bad teeth. You know what it is? It's like, they're just... There's evenly spaced. This is the truth. This is the truth. I did a very small role in a movie called Lyle Lyle Crocodile.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
A huge film called La La Crocodile. My co-stars, Shawn Mendes as the crocodile and Constance Wu. As herself. As a character, but she was not animated. What was your character? So I played like a Ryan Seacrest, like America's Got Talent host, because of course, La La goes and wows the judges at the end. Right. So...
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
the little boy playing the lead, I'm saying this publicly, comes over to me, like runs over to me and goes, I'm like, hey, what's up? He goes, you have sharp teeth like a shark. And I go, I literally go, not a bad day. You can't say that to people. And he just runs away. And I was like, this little actor just dragged me to hell. And then, you know what happened?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
What happened? We shine a light on whatever's worse. Like, I'm thinking, like, what is wrong? And then they started saying, like, he needs braces. But I also want to tell you, I talk out of one side of my mouth. But this is the stuff you Americans have gotten in my head. And then one guy I was dating said, never change the gap.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
Yeah.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
Right. That's my coffee.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
Yes.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
That's an important distinction. It's not about can't. It's not about should.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
Honestly, are you going once a week?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
It takes a minute.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
What do you mean? Like physically it's hard to adjust to it or it just wasn't doing anything?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
It is kind of cool. Today was kind of cool. Today was very cool. We're so happy that you're able to come. Like, we've been wanting to do this with you for such a long time. And we are, you know, obviously, you know, it feels like even silly to say, but like, we are such fans. I know. Like, we really like, I just think you're the best.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
Well, it's like, it is just like, it's almost like a different singer. You know what I mean? Because I guess it's like when you're needing to do the pop thing, do you find yourself being like, okay, now I'm a different pop girl?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
And like... You'll always have a place right there. And right here. Thank you. Let's get veneers together. Thank you. Yes. So we end every episode with a song, Beau. Great. I mean, we could do one of our guests, but also.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
Thank you.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
Right. That was an important song for me at the time. I was like, oh, wow, this is...
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
Your feelings were real, but it doesn't count.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
Okay. That's healthy.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
It's not their fault. You almost feel bad. It's almost like punching down and then all of a sudden they get the distinction of like having a song. And that's also hard. It's like, well, fuck. You elicited such a response from me that I felt moved to write this thing.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
But that's good.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
Have you actually ended it?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
Yeah. You know, what's funny is it's like with Good Luck Babe, it's so hard to sing. And like, you do see a lot of people taking cracks at it, but you have one of those songs now where it's like, that's a Chapel Roan song. Do you feel like that?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
It's hard.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
And I, you, so is it like when you're, when you're recording, is it like, I guess, how do I ask this question? From a place of technique? Yeah. Do you have the song out and you're, like, writing it straight through with, like, Dan or Justin, whoever you're writing with? And then you can, like, play it on the piano altogether?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
Or are you going back and, like, revisiting different sections of the song? Because that one really feels like it's so many different things.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Fairy Drag Queen Guinea Pig" (w/ Chappell Roan)
Right.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Do You Want To Be My Friend?" (w/ Liz Feldman)
It's Matt Rogers. What am I doing? I'm so happy that that happened. I swear.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Do You Want To Be My Friend?" (w/ Liz Feldman)
That's very kind. You know, I, it is hard on, it's hard when you audition on Zoom. Yeah. No, it's terrible. Yeah, that's the thing. You have clearly, but... Oh, I do it all the time. I put myself on the self-tape all the time. I did it yesterday. Heroic.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Do You Want To Be My Friend?" (w/ Liz Feldman)
It's hard, but I really loved you as someone who obviously, a name I knew and respected so much, when they told me that you were actually going to be on the Zoom, that's when you're like, okay, well, here we go. But it is hard. It's hard to...
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Do You Want To Be My Friend?" (w/ Liz Feldman)
connect in a way it's hard to really get adjustments it's also you're seeing someone in a literal screen which is different than the screen they'll be on ultimately so it's bizarre so i wanted to ask you like as a creator and as someone who auditions people all the time like do you miss the in-person auditions because you're a director as well i mean you're so multi-talented so i would imagine that like part of getting in there and like getting clay on the mound and really working is part of what you love and it's so different now
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Do You Want To Be My Friend?" (w/ Liz Feldman)
Clay on the Mound, is that a Sudie Green thing?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Do You Want To Be My Friend?" (w/ Liz Feldman)
Ultimately, it was either that or I wasn't going to be able to do it. Honestly, it's one of my favorite roles I've ever played. Maybe my favorite role I've ever played.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Do You Want To Be My Friend?" (w/ Liz Feldman)
Oh my gosh.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Do You Want To Be My Friend?" (w/ Liz Feldman)
Well, that's also you providing a space for that, which is another compliment I'll give you is that like, it's so rare. Okay, I'll say this. Good leadership, like what you show is just rare. And so one of the things I loved about working with you is how decisive you are when you've gotten what you wanted and how you move on like confidently.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Do You Want To Be My Friend?" (w/ Liz Feldman)
And everyone else can feel confident around you when, you know, when a leader is just like, we got it and we're joyfully moving on. And then no one has to go home and feel strange or odd or anything like that because it's like we did it. And Liz always included a fun run. I mean, how could you not?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Do You Want To Be My Friend?" (w/ Liz Feldman)
Look, Matt. Where? Oh, I see. Wow. Bowen, look over there.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Do You Want To Be My Friend?" (w/ Liz Feldman)
I just mean like for everyone at home, it's just, it's like that take at the end when you kind of got it and it's one for fun and it's that chance to like improvise. And if you're lucky to really connect with the character and have ideas for it and like it's a collaborative set, like I found that a lot of the stuff that was in the show ended up being from those runs.
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"Do You Want To Be My Friend?" (w/ Liz Feldman)
You know, I don't know about that.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Do You Want To Be My Friend?" (w/ Liz Feldman)
I don't know if you knew.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Do You Want To Be My Friend?" (w/ Liz Feldman)
Just being in that type of environment where it's just like constantly, obviously the cast is the cast. And if you haven't watched No Good Dude yet, you should. You should.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Do You Want To Be My Friend?" (w/ Liz Feldman)
Did you ever, this is a weird question because you've worked in the business for so long, but like, do you get star, do you get starstruck? Do you get nervous around talent? Do you guys get starstruck? Yes. Yes.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Do You Want To Be My Friend?" (w/ Liz Feldman)
Do you still?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Do You Want To Be My Friend?" (w/ Liz Feldman)
Claire Danes. So basically like whenever I see anyone like going over to Bowen and being like, oh, Bowen, I'm like, yes, because Bowen, I agree with you, is the star of SNL, is the truth and the light. I'm like, it's Bowen. And it's the 50th. Everyone's excited to talk to Bowen. Claire Danes turning to me and like just calling me by my first name. I was like, I can't. Believe it.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Do You Want To Be My Friend?" (w/ Liz Feldman)
Best actress ever. The greatest. Like, and then we just like had a moment with her.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Do You Want To Be My Friend?" (w/ Liz Feldman)
Yeah. Because she's very much quite there attainable. Yes. She's very much right. She's interested.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Do You Want To Be My Friend?" (w/ Liz Feldman)
Thank you so much. And you know, I wanted one thing for my birthday and it was for us to match.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Do You Want To Be My Friend?" (w/ Liz Feldman)
I don't think I've really sat down and looked at and felt the quality.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Do You Want To Be My Friend?" (w/ Liz Feldman)
happy and grateful and learning so much from that experience and it all shows that show is so great thank you so much it's fantastic thanks and also you have to know how nervous I was like because it will be one thing to book a show with Lisa Kudrow you know what I mean like because that's another thing is it's like BTS for the readers and everybody at home it's like you open your email you're lucky enough one day to get any audition because they're very rare now yeah you know what I mean
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Do You Want To Be My Friend?" (w/ Liz Feldman)
And you open it up and it's like, it's the new Liz Feldman show, which is already so exciting in and of itself. Everyone loves, it's such an exciting name to see yours when you're an actor too, because you know, it's going to be like, I would imagine that every actor is taking out all the meetings with you because they love Dead to Me and they see No Good Deed and they see this.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Do You Want To Be My Friend?" (w/ Liz Feldman)
There's just so much potential for them to do things. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like every character is interesting, which is rare, but it's like you see and Lisa Cujo is attached. That would be enough to give you a panic attack, even on an audition where you're not actually going to interact. And then it's like Ray Romano. The name that really took me out was Linda Cardellini. Oh my God.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Do You Want To Be My Friend?" (w/ Liz Feldman)
Took me out. Like true... acting hero of mine. And it just, it just didn't stop from there. I was a huge fan of every single person. And then he goes, it's like the super smash brothers of television.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Do You Want To Be My Friend?" (w/ Liz Feldman)
And I used it in press.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Do You Want To Be My Friend?" (w/ Liz Feldman)
Maybe it's like New York. Queens and I'm Long Island. So there was enough there. You know what I mean? Like, but again, like, and I watched him since I was a kid. I'm the same. I get the vibe.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Do You Want To Be My Friend?" (w/ Liz Feldman)
Yeah, he's a great guy.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Do You Want To Be My Friend?" (w/ Liz Feldman)
And in the writing in the writer's room, too, I would imagine, because what I loved most about the set and I'm experiencing now on another show I'm working on is I go over to Video Village and it's like a bunch of people like you have such a great group of ladies that you work with. We have a good group. Like Kelly. Yeah.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Do You Want To Be My Friend?" (w/ Liz Feldman)
Where did you go to college?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Do You Want To Be My Friend?" (w/ Liz Feldman)
Yes.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Do You Want To Be My Friend?" (w/ Liz Feldman)
Because you had a dark inner life.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Do You Want To Be My Friend?" (w/ Liz Feldman)
Yeah.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Do You Want To Be My Friend?" (w/ Liz Feldman)
They all said, I would be the exact age I am right now. That would be the exact age I am right now. And they were all so gloriously being actresses to each other. And I absolutely love and worship each and every one of them. Those are three great actors. But it was just so funny because they were like, I wouldn't change a thing. I'd be the age I am right now.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Do You Want To Be My Friend?" (w/ Liz Feldman)
So I was, because of the 50th and everything, I was talking to Kristen Wiig and you guys were in an improv group together years ago.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Do You Want To Be My Friend?" (w/ Liz Feldman)
So this obviously predates SNL.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Do You Want To Be My Friend?" (w/ Liz Feldman)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Do You Want To Be My Friend?" (w/ Liz Feldman)
Wow.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Do You Want To Be My Friend?" (w/ Liz Feldman)
You transferred?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Do You Want To Be My Friend?" (w/ Liz Feldman)
Isn't it wild how that works out? Like, we tell this story sometimes, but you know, so many of our friends from those comedy groups, I was a hammer cat. So I did a sketch comedy and Bone was Dangerbox. He did improv, but we were kind of all one big community. And so many of those people are like still working, super successful, still our friends. You know what I mean? It's just, I remember like,
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Do You Want To Be My Friend?" (w/ Liz Feldman)
when Rachel Bloom won the Golden Globe. We were at home. Yeah, we were at Bowen's apartment in downtown Brooklyn. And I was like, you know what's wild? Like, I think we might've been right. Like the people that we thought were special, like actually are. Yeah. And then that-
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Do You Want To Be My Friend?" (w/ Liz Feldman)
obviously like in so many ways has proven to be true but it is sort of like you have to check yourself at that point you're like wait am i am i okay like am i living in like a like a simulation where it's just like how could this be how could this actually have been the destiny of us all like whatever that means you know whatever but it's like you talk about like the friends that you made all the way back then and like it's really possible to have those communities endure
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Do You Want To Be My Friend?" (w/ Liz Feldman)
Because that was 2020.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Do You Want To Be My Friend?" (w/ Liz Feldman)
And developing together too is such an important thing, I think. in terms of grounding friendship. You know what I mean? How many times did we go to each other's shows where there was like 14, 15 people? You know, one time Bowen and I did a show for one person.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Do You Want To Be My Friend?" (w/ Liz Feldman)
And we were like, it was at the Pit Underground. Oh sure.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Do You Want To Be My Friend?" (w/ Liz Feldman)
Oh yeah. I've been there. We were performing as our filthy, slutty, lip sync duo. Duo Sluck. Sluck. Perfect. His name was Slut and my name was Fuck. Together we were Sluck. And we would essentially for a half hour. Why do you guys come up with this stuff? That was actually our peak. Do you remember when I would look at my Google calendar? I bet I still can. It was so many Sluck.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"Do You Want To Be My Friend?" (w/ Liz Feldman)
Sluck was all over. Everyone wanted to book Sluck. Sluck opened for Joel Kim Booster's first special tape. That's right.
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Sluck was everywhere. Sluck has performed
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No one knows about Sluck anymore, but Sluck may return. Sluck will be at the first Trump Kennedy Center Honors.
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You could always be one of the Hollywood legends that lies about their age. Okay. Okay. Now, by the way, you know why you like Matt Rogers? Why? And why I love Bowen Yang. No, three syllables? Three syllable name. And that's actually apropos.
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The greatest.
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Oh, I love Sam.
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Yeah, Brandon Scott Jones from Ghosts.
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Yes. In fact, like he's one of the ones that like from the very beginning, it's just so wild how so much really paid off. I was talking actually in my group chat the other day about how UCB really did create some incredible actors. because that space in Chelsea, it was like that thrust stage.
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And because it was so small and because the audience was so engaged, because there was an era, I'm sure in LA as well, where it just felt like everyone was so excited about improv and sketch.
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I think it was around, you know, it was definitely 2006, 2012-ish around there when SNL was like really hitting in that era because of like, I think like the way it was, you know, corresponding with politics, et cetera. It was just... It was in the air that like to succeed in comedy, you had to be at UCB and be around it. It felt like in New York.
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Wow. Did you do Del Close?
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Yes. The 24 hour. Yes.
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Four in the morning, three in the morning.
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Yeah. At 4.15 in the morning, I went out and did like a thing where it was like everyone, it was all gay guys and we were all pretending to be Boston straight guys. And I came out and I remember I ate a carrot off the ground and I did this whole stupid bit where I was like, should I eat this carrot? And everyone was like, no! No.
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I was told afterwards that it had been in someone's ass the bit performance before. And you had eaten the carrot. Someone had put the carrot in their ass and left it on the stage. And when I came out, I didn't know that. And so I took the carrot. I was like, I'm going to eat this carrot. They were like, no. I put it in my mouth and ate it.
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Yeah, that's my kink. My kink is carrot ass. But no, what I was saying was like the style of the stage being thrust and because the audience was so engaged and it was so small, it created such good actors because they could do such small stuff.
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Like I remember Middle Ditch, Aubrey Plaza, Ellie Kemper, Darcy Carden, Brandon Scott Jones, like all these people that ended up having success in television. They came from an era where you could develop as a live performer, but it still, it fed the on-camera work. Because it was black box thrust.
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By the way, thank you for saying happy birthday to me. I'm so happy. We're in matching looks, not just because I wanted us to be in for my birthday, but we took new photos for the podcast. Kiss this one goodbye. Kiss it goodbye, even though this is iconic.
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Yes. I remember hearing that and being like, should I move there? Because I always got the note I was too big. Always.
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Were you under duress? Because you didn't show that on No Good Deed. Did you find yourself under duress?
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You do?
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What are the three you don't like? Therapists.
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She offers you a part right here. No. I'm like, wait, I sound right for that. We don't really compete for, no, because you don't audition anymore. Because I don't think I'm good at it.
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Like, I remember, I remember back in the day when we, when we both were up for SNL, I remember I was like, when you booked that, I was like, wow, he books, because he would book all the time. And I felt like I had to book SNL in order to make a career happen. Interesting. I was like, this is the only thing I'll be right for because I always got the note too big, too big, too big.
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And yeah, you guys are being too much.
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I love that show too. That show was gone too soon, man.
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I can't believe no one wanted that. Like when, cause they went out, they went out to pitch it again. And I was just like, this is like, you have so much proof of concepts here. The second season was fully written. I feel like I can say all this now because it's been a long time, but I was just like, that just goes to show the industry is in such a rough, that that show was good. It had fans.
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You can put it on a Netflix homepage with Molly Shannon in the fucking- Literally no reason for people to say no, no reason for a network to say no.
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Anyways, all this is lovely, but there's a question we have to ask you. Okay. So, Liz Feldman, this is the question that we ask all of our guests. You'll be no different. What was the culture that made you say culture was for you?
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I'll miss this a lot.
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Wow. You know, this is really good. Thank you. So, Kate Manning must have been huge.
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Yeah, because she was on No Good Dude.
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Yeah.
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Yes, the podcast is nine years old.
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There was iconography there that you could relate to in an abstract way. Yeah.
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She's great in No Good Dude, too. She's wonderful. I wrote the part for her.
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You don't even... Like, obviously, you do know, but, like, when it hit on Netflix and everyone freaking the fuck out when they saw Linda Cardellini in bed with Kate. Like, it was such, like... How much of that was you being like, he, he, he, the lesbian, I'm feeding the lesbians right now. You had to know.
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Because then you think back and you're like, you're an audience that wanted that at one point. Exactly. Forget about that.
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Yeah, so basically this person is, this is how I met this person. On a Zoom audition for the show No Good Deed. Amazing show. Which she created. And I was in my bathroom in New York because it was the only place I could get good lighting. So I put the Zoom, I opened the Zoom, put the computer laptop on the top of my toilet. Yes. This was in Long Island City? Yes. Yes.
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And now how many like- not open secrets, but like how many people just like are gay and are huge stars. And they're either out or it's not that they're not out. It's just not a thing. It's not a thing. It's just no one really talks about it. And I guess it's better, right?
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It's also wild because that show, The L Word, gets rediscovered all the time. In fact, when I was at Coachella last year, Renee Rapp performed and she had the cast of The L Word introduce her because it's her favorite show. Of course. And just like watching the Gen Z audience.
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Wow. By the way, I didn't realize this, that he was like a conservative... icon. Not an icon, but the bit of him was that he had liberal parents and that he was a 1980s young conservative man being like, this is the way we're going to do it.
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And I was like, I hope I can make this in some way charming. Did the Zoom audition and spoiler alert for the show. I do a lot of cocaine in the show. So I'm in my own bathroom, like miming cocaine, just like off the shitter, off the shitter. Literally look every time, you don't know this. Every time in that audition, I went down to go like, I'm a line of Coke snort.
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Oh, I know it. That's actually so, so true. So true. It's also so important to hear you say and to remember, write something that you would want to watch because that actually makes creating so much easier. Yeah. It's one of those sentences that, And I'm almost connecting it to an improv thing, which is this always makes it easier for me, too, which is if this is true, what else is true?
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It's just an easy generator. But like write something that you would want to watch is like, of course, of course, I would do that. You know what I mean? And like and also if you're thinking about it that way, you're not the only one, you know, like so it's it's really easy fun in improv.
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Totally. Of course.
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I was staring into my toilet hole.
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My toilet hole.
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icon.
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Okay, more to come in this episode for that. For that. Also created Dead to Me, which is a new podcast with a friend of the show, Justy Klein, we're going to talk all about. And truly lovely to have her here. Everyone, please welcome her to yours, my friend, Liz Feldman!
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Yeah, that's stunning. Just like that image of them allowing you to drive them while they've been told that as full grown adults, they may have like more to figure out. I mean... It's wild. I mean, when I was a little kid, I'll never forget one of the things that my dad told me and I internalized was my dad's also a very Long Island guy.
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And I remember he said to me, he was like, I know everything. And if you ever, ever question, you come to me and I will give you the answer because I know everything. Okay, cool. And so I think that he was just trying to make sure I didn't, you know, act out and go try and... I think it was well-intentioned. Everything my father ever did was well-intentioned. But...
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internalizing that and then realizing that he, like any man in the 90s and aughts, you know, like that's like, my dad is a varsity football, baseball coach, you know, and then the culture around us, you know, like very like patriarchal male dominated culture. And I do mean in all ways, as we all know, but to start to feel like my identity was at odds with what that society was saying,
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was tough and it wasn't like I could go to my dad with that question because I don't know that in 2004, he would have had the right thing to say. Ultimately he did and was lovely and is lovely and such a supporter and like such a wonderful, lovely man. But it's hard when your parents are supposed to be this thing. and then you realize they're human.
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And so it sounds like in that story is what happened was not only did you confront and realize your parents' humanity, but it was confirmed for you.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's lovely to see... People change, sure, but men change. You know what I mean? To watch a straight man, that's a very... You have to be... I don't give a lot of credit, but I will say... That, you know, I really respect when my dad stands up to his friends who like Trump. You know what I mean? My dad will give it to these guys that like Trump. Same.
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My dad was a phys ed teacher, like varsity sports coach for a very long time, surrounded by attitudes that suck. Yeah. Attitudes that fucking suck. Yeah. And it's really hard to be the person being like, hey, knock it off. Like care for women, care for minorities, care for queer people, care for trans people. But there's a lot of people out there doing it. And I think it's important.
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And I also, I just want to acknowledge that change is very difficult for some people. And you do have to be brave. You have to be very brave to do that.
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Your presence is a gift. I love what you are wearing. It's a vibrant green. Thank you so much. Kelly green.
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Yeah. My lifelong dream. And that's on being queer. And that's on queerness. If I make it to third, I remember saying that about myself. Oh, yeah. Please. The moment I realized I was gay, the moment I remember, I was 11 years old and I remember the moment. I remember thinking the emotion was abject terror because I was like, I'll die. Yeah. For sure.
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Or like the world would have totally changed from what it is right now for me to like ever be okay with this or tell people about this. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, honestly, like you say, I like to make it to 35, but I couldn't see 35 for myself because as you were saying earlier, where were the examples of it? Exactly. Where were the examples in media of us?
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Mm hmm.
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I would say this is Kelly green.
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She's giving Kermit. Who's the best Muppet?
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I can't wait. November, baby. November, okay. He's my Scorpio child.
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Scorpio child.
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What are you?
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I'm Pisces.
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Oh, I love them. Because what are you, a Cancer?
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You're a Gemini. But we all get along very well.
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That's the right answer. Well, because I love funny guys. He's sweet too.
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Yeah, we do. And I always get, aw.
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You know, your shows are very Pisces. Yes.
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I believe that they are because it's like with Dead to Me, it's like, Which, by the way, I just have to say while you're here, that's going to be looked back on as one of the great shows. That's one of the great shows. It's one of the great shows with two of the great performances. Agree. Agree about those performances. I mean, they're so brilliant, but the fact that
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It's a relationship that on paper at the, on the beginning of the show, like should not work at all for X, Y, Z and beyond reasons. But it's just the, the connection and the empathy that they have for each other. Cause that's really what it's based in is empathy. That's very Pisces.
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Scorpio Pisces is everything.
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It still works.
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You know why that happens? It's because I often don't understand the metaphor. No, it's true. I often don't quite stick the landing on the metaphor. I don't know my words, but I do know my heart. That is one of the most Pisces sayings, and it's my saying. It used to be on a throw pillow that we would sell on a merch website.
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There will be more merch in year nine of Lost Cult. Speaking of lost coach, it's a podcast that has a segment and it's coming up right now. So this is, I don't think so, honey. And I don't think so, honey, to sort of break it down is a 60 second segment where each person on the podcast, it's hosts and it's guests or guests.
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So what do you think it is about Waka Waka that she latched on to? Is she, does she have the comedy bug?
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goes off for 60 seconds on something in pop culture that absolutely needs a dragging. And I said in the car, we were just driving back from our shoot. Yeah. And I said, I had something and I'm going to do it.
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This is something that is in the culture and it's remained. It's not having, it's not as big as it used to be, but I still, it's more personal. Anyway, here we go. Okay.
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I don't think so, honey. Cameo. I can't because, and here's the thing. It's not that I don't like it as a service. I do think so, honey. Like everyone like getting, getting money from cameo, doing it, participating in it. Whenever I get a cameo gift, I can not watch it. I'm too embarrassed that the person is talking to me.
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Like if I ever opened a cameo, like years ago, you got me one for my birthday from Sandra Diaz, twine survivor icon. And I literally had to watch it in pieces, like three, throughout a couple days.
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Because I couldn't believe she was talking to me. It's so intimate, cameo. I don't think so, honey. You're looking at me in my eyes through the phone. My friend Nico got one from Tom Sandoval the other day. And I've never watched it because I can't watch Tom Sandoval. I'm too embarrassed. Like, it's like, it's just, it's something, I don't know what it is.
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It's like when the culture awards happens and people send in their videos. There are ones I have never watched. I just can't. I don't think so, honey. Celebrities live your life. Don't think about me. Don't talk to me.
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It was Nico's birthday a couple weeks ago and he was sent one from Tom Sandoval and I was just like, I saw all my friends talking about it and I was like, I can't watch it. There's something about cause I've gotten them from like housewives before. Cause those are fun ones. Cause you know, they're all on cam now and you get it. And you're just like, Oh, like, I don't know.
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Like, like what, what they're told to say to you when the way that it's not personal, it's literally filtered. And so maybe it's that I think I'm wasting their time. But then again, it's like, they're getting paid.
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It's like getting fucked with a bag on your head.
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By the way, I used to do cameos all the time.
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I used to make money doing cameos, especially during the pandemic because you could just sit there on your phone and you made nothing but time and just cameo, cameo, cameo, cameo, cameo. Like that's not it. It's specifically the act of receiving one. Now that I've done this on the podcast, I'm going to get tons from my friends who like throw 50 bucks. By the way, it is my birthday.
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Now it's really going down.
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It would be a housewife if I had to get a cameo from someone. Well, you know, I got a cameo from Parvati a really long time ago from Survivor. And now she's our pal. So I guess, because who's a housewife I can't really go up to because I'm just too scared.
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It's like maybe one. Lisa Barlow. Lisa Barlow, I've met. Yo, Lisa Rinna. Lisa Rinna. Get me a cameo from Lisa Rinna. I'll be happy. Okay. By the way, she and Harry Hamlin have a new podcast and they get into it. Yes. Let's not talk about the husband. Let's not talk about the husband. It's called. Oh, I love that. Okay. So that's mine. Do you have another thing to honey on today?
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Don't worry. Oh, please.
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I think if you're talking about it, people are talking about it. This is Bo and Yang's I Don't Think So, Honey. And this time starts now.
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Oh, I'm so happy. Everyone's moaning and bitching and groaning about the new theme song. It's because the second one was such a bop. Of course. But they didn't even, it wasn't, here's the thing. It's like, had they tried to make a bop this time and it like kind of flopped, that would be one thing. People would have been even more pissed. But this is just, this is like a score.
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We love you, Star Jessica.
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I'm loving White Lotus this season.
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We're only one deep. I mean, I'm in. I'm in, of course. But I watched the first episode twice. I have to say, my favorite moment of the whole episode was when Carrie Coon goes upstairs and she's been being sort of left out by the friends. And she has that one moment I was like, oh my God, that was, and I was waiting for Carrie Coon to Carrie Coon. And you know, she's going to coon out.
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She's going to carry down.
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Yeah. And I, I love that whole cat. I mean, I think it's great. You know, who else I'm obsessed with is Amy Lou Wood. who's the British girlfriend.
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He's going off. And also to say nothing of Parker Posey. And let me tell you something, a lot of idiots on Twitter dragging the accent. No, no, relax. You relax. Oh, come on. You let Parker Posey do her thing.
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I think you might be luck. Wow.
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You don't know how to make a choice better than her, and I would suggest you shut up.
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Can you please?
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In this last episode, she goes, scratch my arm.
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That was good. I enjoyed that. I wonder if that was a fun run.
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Brilliant. You know who's going to be on the show in a few weeks? Speaking of amazing actress created by UCB, Natasha Rothwell is finally coming on.
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Okay, so this is what I wanted to say about this. We don't even own these. Okay, so my friend Jared, who I'm dying to introduce you to, Jared Frieder, everyone knows him. That's a reader, Katie Publicist, finalist, or Kyle. He came to help us sort of art direct the shoot. He buys two of everything. Because he had two of these.
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We are so excited to see the legend.
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Yeah. She's great.
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All right. It's time. Okay.
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Yes. Okay. So this is a big moment.
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This is Liz Feldman's. I don't think so. Honey, are you ready?
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Okay. This is Liz Feldman's. I don't think so. Honey, her time starts now.
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Yes, a Xanax store.
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Oh, and that's one minute.
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Can I ask?
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Favorite of the four. And why is it? Insert here.
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You're so right.
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And I usually do.
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Well, this is an I Heart podcast, so shape up.
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I heart, I heart.
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Of course. You know, a flower shop that like wraps things. You love Mayhaps. I do. You know what's so funny? You wrote mayhaps into one of my character's lines.
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And I had never heard anyone say the word mayhaps before. I love mayhaps.
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Yeah, we are. Is mayhaps in the show? Do I say mayhaps? I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure you do. Yeah. What is it?
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We hit a slight Snagorny Weaver. No. You have to keep it. They were like, he has to do it the real way because we don't know, but like we do like it. And I was like.
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It does. This has been so much fun. I agree.
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I mean, and with that, here to make friends, March 14th, which is a... Friday! Which is the best day outside of today. It's been a lovely day. And you can stream these Netflix series, Dead to Me and No Good Deed, because Liz is the best. And we end every episode with a song. Can't wait. Da-da-da-da. Is that a key change? I never thought about that before. It's a key change.
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The sex in the city theme has a key change. That's actually rule of culture number four.
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Bye.
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Executive produced by Anna Hosnier.
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And our music is by Henry Kaburski.
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Yes.
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Oh, the algorithm is telling me I'm in my middle age. What is it telling you? So a couple of things. Okay, I almost said my personal trainer, and I guess I am just going to say. because that's what it is.
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I have a personal trainer I've started with and he goes to me, the first day we ever started working, he goes, it's actually really good that you started now because at 35, that's when your bone density starts to go. And then at 36, that's actually when you lose any metabolism you've ever had. So it's really good that we're getting to work now.
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And I'm like, and so then I get randomly served on Instagram This like, you know, when you flip through the stories and then there's one that's like a targeted ad, it's like how 35 means you're definitely middle-aged. It's like all of a sudden everything had always told me like, you're young, you're young, you're young. And then hit 35 and they're like, you're middle-aged, you're middle-aged.
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We're changing the, we're moving the goalposts back. 35 is middle age.
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No, it is true. I've just, you know what I was thinking about the other day? Remember when you were a kid, like a young, young, young kid, remember the sentence, this question, do you want to be my friend? I used to ask that question on the playground. And even then it felt so intimate, but it was like this intimacy that you're allowed when you're a child to ask a pure question like that.
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I could cry.
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Excited to be around each other. Excited to be around each other. That's great.
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Oh, that is such a nice compliment. It's true. Very sweet. That is my girl that I love.
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You know what's interesting about that? I think because we were two gays doing a podcast talking about pop culture in the beginning, like in the breakdowns, people would talk about our podcast and we would get snarky all the time. And I'm like, is this just because we're two gay guys? Because we're not snarky at all. Breakdowns, like as in like the comments?
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Like people that were like trying to explain what the podcast was.
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Oh, we'll give you a quip and we'll give you a drag and a read. But I don't. It's for the culture number 49. Oh, we'll quip. And we'll give you a dragon read. But no, I mean, I do think it's like, that's very nice of you to say. I wonder if it's like, Well, it's you and Jesse. So it's like you guys are obviously iconic comedians. By the way, two wonderful showrunners I've worked with.
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Jesse Klein Showrun. I love that for you. And Liz was no good deed. But I wonder, are you kind of rolling the dice on some people? Because you're like, oh, we want to be friends with this person. Like we're sort of like. Oh, that's the whole point of the podcast. So you're not playing it safe. Oh, not at all. You're not bringing in like.
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You know what I mean? You know what, she will. She's never hit the podcast circuit.
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Thanks for knowing the reference.
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Yeah.
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Oh my God. I'm doing the podcast next week.
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Is your schedule crazy? Just want some me time?
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But it was great to see so many people standing up, using their voices in a time that feels weird because it feels like we're letting one person control everything. And I'm not talking about Trump. I'm talking about Elon fucking Musk. I just watched this crazy... YouTube video with Jasmine Crockett before I got on here. The vibes are so all over the place.
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Because Beyonce's album of the year, but Elon's taking over the world. It's at a fever pitch right now.
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Oh, plus the destinations. Caribbean escapes this winter, and in 2025 and 2026, they're hitting North America, Iceland, and the Mediterranean.
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That's what I was thinking about the entire time. I was just like, it's so crazy to hear these attacks on DEI, which I can't even believe... is an acronym that we're discussing in this way. Just say a slur. Just say any slur. It's like a given that obviously diversity strengthens everything, period. Our country, our world, period. You're watching this night.
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It's like, even on a vibe check alone, if you're at home watching that, you're not questioning things a little bit. Like... I'm so happy that they didn't make explicit mention of Trump or whatever, because then he would have felt the need to pick on people or get in a fight with this award show, as it were. He loves to just feud with them as if they're individuals.
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But it's just crazy that we can hold both right now. It's wild that people can't see... That there is a truth and a light. I don't know. It is wild.
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As a leader, as a real leader, as a true leader and a true ally and a true icon to the queer community. And she knew that this was... I mean, not that she needs an opportunity. She knew this was her duty to do that. And it is so real. And then for her... to release that song.
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And it's not meaningful because of this, because it's meaningful on its own merits because the song is so great and it's just so exciting and it's so gaga. But also, it does call back to a time in her career which felt like we didn't have to worry about the world hugging us back. You know what I mean?
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Like it was giving that born this way vibe that those kinds of sounds like it was so it was like a hug. It was like a sweaty, euphoric Molly hug from Lady Gaga towards the queer community. And we fucking needed that. And I again was this is, I guess, another moment from the telecast, which I guess we're considering it a part of it. But I was up out of my chair.
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I could not sit down last night watching these Grammys. I really couldn't. It was just, it's so fitting too to come at the end of a musical year that was so honestly important because it was a one constant throughout this year was that music, popular music, while we can have problems with the industry aspects of it, it really was a salve all year. And it felt like you saw the people,
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in that room getting the credit and having some fun together that had really been there in our ears all year. To put it in super simple terms, but it just felt good. And for her to do that was, yes, a moment that was so necessary. Thankful for the cuts to the audience.
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I love Taylor Swift at that award show because you know what? She's kicking back those champagne flutes. She is putting on Janelle Monae's jacket, keeping it on all night. She's dancing around because I guess for her, it's like she might as well have fucking fun. Of course, she knows the entire world is going to judge her anyway. Sure. I'll be the only one standing up. Good. Let her.
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Las Culturistas calling. How do you feel when we're in this setup doing it? I feel like we're recording this on a Monday and it's way PM for me on the West Coast. And I feel like this was always when we recorded it during the pandemic. So it's a little sense for me in a way that's like a little spooky.
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I hope I can get to a place in my life where I can go anywhere and I want to dance. I do it. That's what I'll say. I hope. I dance. In the words of Leanne Womack, I'm repurposing the queen, but I hope I dance.
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We hope we dance. Wow. Maybe that's the title of that. We hope we dance. We hope we dance. That's actually good. We hope we dance for Gaga. The category is dance or die.
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Cardboard Carter is... I mean, that was a great moment in time. And the fact that no one... There was no little titters. There was no little laughter. We're the only stupid idiots that are making an issue of it. But Beyoncé just clean one... Cardboard Cardio.
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I'm like, this is, this is who we need to uplift. To me, I was like, my whole thing was like, this feels like central casting LA firefighters. I'm like, this woman is everything. She's holding the space. Her hair. Yeah. The hair was... Perfect. It was kind of giving throwback. It was kind of giving, you know, late 80s, early 90s country woman. It was giving Judd.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know why I thought it was giving Judd, but you know what I'm saying? It's like... No, it is Judd.
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Yeah, there was a nod here. I mean, I think not only were most of the musical acts and album of the year going country, I think so was L.A. Firefighters. Shiro.
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I think that if they felt they needed to do that, then it's good that they did that. Because clearly there was something wrong. I mean... Clearly. Yeah, I mean, come on. We have to give credit also, Sabrina took home two. And I was confronted a little bit in some group chats about people being like, really espresso for pop vocal performance.
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Let me tell you something about that tasty little cookie voice. You hop on the track. That song is a hit because of her vocal. It is a warm little summer coo. And just because a vocal is not rangy does not mean it doesn't have artistic value.
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A coup is a choice. A coup is a choice. That's actually rule of culture number six.
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And you know that one will be in the book. And now, after every rule of culture, we're going to have to signify whether or not it's going to be in the book, which is officially happening.
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I don't know. I'm just like, that was a vibe when we were recording it, like, that era. The pandemic Lost Culture recordings were a different moment in Lost Culture history.
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Telegenic doesn't really cover it, huh? Because it's another thing to hit the spot where you're supposed to stand, have the light hit you, and bring joy to the world. It's another thing, too. How do I put this? So much control over the movement in her eyes. Like, beep, beep, beep. She's like a little cartoon cookie that I want to bite out of, quite frankly.
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You're made in the shade and you're made for TV. What I love too about Sabrina's performance, I love that she comes out, does espresso, does please, please, please, and then goes back to espresso. As if to comment on, no, the song is never over. This is never over. This is a movement, not a moment.
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What do you think was in her flask all night?
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I think it was a Jennifer Pedranti Malibu and Diet. Not Jennifer Pedranti. You heard what I said. My girl gives Jennifer Pedranti, okay? Sabrina and Jennifer Pedranti, I want to see that Actors on Actors.
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I mean, first of all, if you don't think I scrutinized the video of them hugging, you'd be deeply mistaken. Was there a hug? There is a big hug. There was happy chatter. Because I'll tell you what the Recording Academy, the literal actual Recording Academy does, is they put those reaction shots up, like the crowd footage. No one's safe. Like Bruno Mars reacts to Dochi's performance.
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You know what I mean? Like this, this, that. And I was like, this is so funny of them to just dive in in this way and double dip. And not just like a, you know, we're officially like giving... quality honors, and then we're also dipping into the celebrity aspect of it.
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But they had me, and I will say, can confirm, it seems good between Sabrina and Olivia, and I think they might do Lost Coach together. Just kidding. But start the rumor. Well, the end game of this is collab. Absolutely. The end game is they take this podcast from us. Yes! Yeah. They would be better. And we can be pop stars. Asian and a blonde. Asian and a blonde. Wait.
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We really are Olivia and Sabrina. In a way. An Asian and a blonde.
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There's so many things I want to do differently this year, Bowen. I have to get into a routine of waking up earlier on time the same day. I want to get my day started really early. I need the energy for that.
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When it comes to energy and hydration and the team up of the two, I know a quick way to get into both. And that is by using Liquid IV. Seriously, I swear by it.
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You don't even need coffee after it because it's an energy boost and you're feeling good. So if you're looking to kind of curb your caffeine intake, this might be something for you.
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I love my fruit over there talking about how he loves fruit. Thank you, fruit. Break the mold and own your ritual. Just one stick and 16 ounces of water hydrates better than water alone. Three times the electrolytes of the leading sports drink. Eight essential vitamins and nutrients, always non-GMO, vegan, gluten-free, dairy-free, and soy-free.
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As darker dynamics emerge, the series gradually reveals the complex truths of the seemingly picture-perfect travelers, cheerful hotel employees, spirituality, and idyllic locale itself.
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It's literally time of day. It's literally like I'm looking outside and the darkness has descended. And I'm sitting, you know what really this comes back to again? I'm sitting in this same room that I've been in since February 2020 in LA and must leave. That sounds like a you problem. Oh, it's a major me problem. No, I'm kidding. And here's the thing.
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So, Valentine's Day is coming up, you know, everybody's going to be dining out with their soulmate.
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But, you know, it's easy to find your bowlmate at Qdoba. Ha, I follow you. Bowlmate. Someone to share your Qdoba with. That's right. Because everybody can get exactly what they want at Qdoba. You can create your own tacos, burritos, and bowls.
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Right? But here's the kicker. You can get a free entree this Valentine's Day when you order an entree and drink. Oh, one for you and one to share? Right. And then your bowlmate becomes just all mate, but it's only open to rewards members. So sign up in the Qdoba app and join Qdoba rewards to redeem the offer valid in restaurant or online only on February 14th.
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Oh, you ate that. Grist for the mill.
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Where does that have its origins? I think from mills. I think from millwork. Did you just hear my Vegas laugh? That horrible, horrible sound.
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Yeah, we're not done with Abracadabra. We haven't even picked up the wand. Or the hat.
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Are you fucking kidding me? I'm sorry. I'm jumping ahead. Go say what you need to say to the recording Academy.
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And I thank them. There was a photo, and it's going around as the Powerpuff Girls, of Sabrina Carpenter, Chapel Roan, and Billie Eilish all together looking like three legends and slaves. And I just wanted Olivia in there. I wanted to get my girl in there. I wanted a four. I wanted that picture of Kesha, Nicki Minaj, Katy Perry, and Rihanna redone.
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You know what? All I'm saying is it seemed united in there. Even like, oh my God, I can't believe I scrutinized these videos so much. But the recording academy posted them. Like even just sort of, you know, the girls walking by each other and it seemed civil in there. And they knew. They knew the world needed to see harmony. Yeah. I'm just going to put this out there, okay?
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I've been so excited to record all day because when you talk about culture catch-ups, you hope you can recap some culture that's as good as the stuff we've gotten in the last even 24 hours. But for us, the last 72 hours.
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Put your weapons down. Put your weapons down. Put your... And because, let me tell you something, stop with all this feud about podcasters. Stop with the stuff with the feud about Matt Bowe, Cat Pat, Joel Kim. Stop with the feud. Dax Shepard. Y'all are always putting us in a feud with Dax Shepard. And can we just say, we love the man. And we all know each other, okay? We hang out.
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We respect each other as artists.
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Oh, wow. Yeah, people are really living for that.
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She's there. I mean, she's the Grammy winner for Snow White of the Year. And also another thing. The Billie of it all. Somebody in this situation was going to have like a off night in terms of taking things. Totally. But the good news is for Billie Eilish is she has nine. Nine. She has two Academy Awards. And I think that isn't she a winner?
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She was a nominee for most awards award for most awards at the Culture Award.
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She's good on the hardware. Yeah.
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I would have made a trade. I can pitch a trade. Here's what I'll say. Song of the Year. Song of the Year, give it to Billie Eilish if she's going to go home empty-handed everywhere else. No, no, no. Record of the Year. Because Song of the Year is definitely not like us. Yeah, I'm one of them.
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I mean, so if you're looking at it in terms of songwriting, yeah, I guess the reason why Not Like Us is as high impact is because of the writing.
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That would be my trade. And that's just in a world where it's less fun when those awards are one by one song.
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I was a little worried for Chapel there when somebody looked like it was going to be a Sabrina sweep. I was like, I mean, as much as I live and die for Sabrina, I was like, we can't, we have to have Chapel up there getting something, especially after that performance. Best New Artist is the perfect award for her to win because not only is she the most high impact, you know, exciting artist,
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new star of the year, critically and commercially, I would, you know, wager to say. But also, the way that she changes the way we talk about them. And the way that, just the way she's demanded respect, the way that she commanded the room last night, she... You know, it's almost like she was being given, not license, but the fact that everyone in that room was down to stand up and applaud.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Yep, say it. Say this part.
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And she had Taylor fucking Swift standing up and applauding that sentiment. That is... huge. It's a major.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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The insight into the music industry that I do have, I will say it's shocking when you realize how hard it is to make money, when you realize how much work goes into this stuff. It would shock you. It is so much harder. It's incomparable to any other... section of the entertainment industry that I could see. You know what I mean?
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And that's why it saddens us to say this is the last episode of Los Culturistas. Just kidding, you absolute freaks.
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It's just a class issue that she spoke to. And you are so right when you said that, 100%. Because, of course, people who work hard for systems that can reward them with basic human dignity should be given that dignity.
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It was uncompromising, which is what's been so incredible about her. It was brat. It was the last... Not the last, because who's to fucking say? But it was an exclamation point on that whole fucking album cycle.
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The Kitties were throwing themselves onto the freeway. Jesus. Jeez. Sorry, guys. Death to all of them.
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Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I still stand that it was the album of the year culturally. I will always think that.
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If the trade is that Beyonce gets that moment for what is essentially a career of greatness, then everything is right with the world. But... they knew it too, that that was the thing that we would want to end the show on because it was the last performance. And even if Beyonce took the award, Charlie XCX punched us in the fucking face. And that's exactly what should have happened.
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And her screaming at the end of it, happy birthday, Julia Fox on the Grammy awards. I love it. That was, yeah. Great programming.
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When are we like this about any award show? When?
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10 and 2, everyone, or 12 and hand on your hip, if you're like me, driving on the roads because we're cruising into culture. The Grammys were... Last night, we were in Vegas this weekend, and Lady Gaga has... Hit us with it hard. Sorry, Billy. Wow, the coach lately. Bo, the coach lately, Bo.
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No. I mean, first of all, can I just say Charlie and Gaga are fucking going to be at Coachella. It's and that's just that's it's so soon and it's going to be so fucking soon. Like now let's talk about abracadabra because I was texting you guys. We were in the group chat texting and I had, you know, walked away from the TV for a second because I figured, you know, commercial break.
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And I just remember looking over and seeing her in that fucking red spiked get up and And knowing that Mother Monster was present and speaking, she tapped on that mic. And I just texted you guys, guys, look at the TV. Oh, trust me.
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Well, you know what it is? I know Jared, and I know Jared had muted the TV because he does that during commercials.
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I just needed everyone to be on the same page that she was... I thought it was just going to be a clip. I thought it was just going to be, you know, maybe 15 seconds and it to announce that there was a new single. It was the entire video. And then presented by MasterCard at the end did make me laugh. I did actually collapse with laughter. But wow. Wow.
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The visuals, they were exciting the entire time. She looks insane. The post-chorus, Bo? The post-chorus. And now it's making me love disease even more. And we said this when it came out that we could not wait to hear it in context. It is going to be so good in context. The way that song starts, when you hear this other song, it's just, it's going to breathe.
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It's going to really feel very good live. This is going to be very good. Mayhem is going to be extremely,
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Just trust me. Not since the BTS... feature out on The Substance? Has there been a 30-minute explainer that's been so necessary? We haven't seen this in weeks. It's been weeks since we've seen this.
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I mean, she said, I have long dreamed of a time of hosting a dance party in the desert. I have long dreamed. And then you do hear that dream in this music. I was like, this is meant to be amongst the stars, the skies, and the sands.
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I think it's worth it. I think you have to be there. No, are you kidding me?
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I mean, it's just... We need to thank her. It's not to be missed. This is not going to... And also, just her getting carried in, her goofy face when she's like...
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how do you even describe it's when she's center frame in the video and there she's seated and she's in her chair just like having a spasm I'm like yeah this is the Gaga that it's funny because she did come back with Chromatica she gave Dance Pop again and all this stuff about like you know her return to the dance floor we've talked about it like we've been like excuse me knock knock
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We just got back from our long trip to Chromatica. We got on a spaceship and went to Chromatica. I don't understand why you don't remember this. You threw up, Mark. You threw up on the spaceship.
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"We Hope We Dance" (w/ Matt & Bowen)
Because it, I don't know, like Chromatica was actually speaking to art pop a little bit in a way that I kind of loved. It was more, it was living in a more art poppy space for me. I don't know how to describe it other than like brighter. Like when you saw Stupid Love, you were like, okay, you know, this is, but this is dark, spooky, haunted house Gaga. I've wanted to go back to this haunted house.
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I liked it. You've long wanted to go back to this haunted house. I'd like the drama. And Chromatica had drama, of course. I mean, those instrumentals that Chromatica 1, 2, and 3, like that broke up the album. It was there, but there's a vocal drama in what she's doing here. And there is a lot of characterization that is new, which is really exciting to hear from her.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
"We Hope We Dance" (w/ Matt & Bowen)
Like this vocal fry that she is using, but it's like placed differently. You know what I'm talking about, right?
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She's made discoveries vocally.
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last night it's just it's so rare that it's grammys and we're happy can we say best grammys in our lifetime maybe since 99 maybe i don't know best grammys in our recent lifetime for sure i mean this was fun from the beginning oh it moved i loved the winners i have little qualms here and there but the wealth was being spread i think we got some moments that were kind of live tv unforgettable ever like that entire let's start here
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Okay, I can definitely feel that. For me, it's just, it's more like... But it is giving Fame Monster... Not Shaisa, it's Swine. Swine. But Swine was also art pop, so you are right. Interesting.
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That's going to be amazing. Last time we saw her at Radio City was the Tony Bennett show. That iconic Tony Bennett show.
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March 7th. I mean, that's two days after my birthday. This is a birthday gift. This is Pisces season gaga. It doesn't feel Pisces. It's not giving that, but just know that it will be meaningful.
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And also, I mean, just the fact that her and the dancers are just gathered there so Mother Monster can order them to play her little game. Category is Dance or Die. They dance for her. And they dance. We see the routine. We see the passion. We see the dance. And then at the end... They look up and Mother Monster is looking away. And then she looks at the camera as if to say, yes, acceptable.
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And the last shot of the video is Gaga on the floor looking up like, and it's like, she's, you know, she's done her job. She's won. She has not died. She's pleased Mother Monster. She can continue on today.
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It's just coming from a very commanding place. And I think that's all we really want to do is take orders from Gaga. You know what I mean? That's ultimately what I, the only leader that I believe in as of right now is Lady Gaga.
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She says dance or die. So that's an easy choice for me. Right. Personally, but I'm not a nihilist. I'm an optimist.
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The opposite of a nihilist.
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As darker dynamics emerge, the series gradually reveals the complex truths of the seemingly picture-perfect travelers, cheerful hotel employees, spirituality, and idyllic locale itself.
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So Valentine's Day is coming up. You know, everybody's going to be dining out with their soulmate.
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That entire Best New Artist section. Loved. That was a great TV moment. Dochi's performance. How about that?
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But, you know, it's easy to find your bowlmate at Qdoba. Ha, I follow you. Bowlmate. Someone to share your Qdoba with. That's right. Because everybody can get exactly what they want at Qdoba. You can create your own tacos, burritos, and bowls.
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Right? But here's the kicker. You can get a free entree this Valentine's Day when you order an entree and drink. Oh, one for you and one to share?
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And then your bowlmate becomes just all mate, but it's only open to rewards members. So sign up in the Qdoba app and join Qdoba Rewards to redeem the offer. Valid in restaurant or online only on February 14th.
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Quince has all the must-haves, like Mongolian cashmere crewneck sweaters from $50, iconic 100% leather jackets, and versatile flow-knit activewear.
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By partnering directly with top factories, Quince cuts out the cost to the middleman and passes the savings on to us.
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I love it too. And I truly do love, I know we mentioned it a lot, but that Mongolian cashmere crew neck sweater. for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns. That's Q-U-I-N-C-E dot com slash culturistas to get free shipping and 365-day returns. quince.com slash culturistas. Who's planning a trip to Provincetown this year?
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P-Town has so many fun theme weeks for everyone LGBTQ+, like Pride, Girl Splash, Bear Week, and Family Week, plus Carnival and Trans Week.
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From Boston, hop on a fast ferry for 90 minutes. The ferries run from mid-May through mid-October.
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So sashay your way to P-TownTourism.com, the official guide to Provincetown. P-TownTourism.com.
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We had Shania on Friday. We had Mariah on Saturday. And we had Destruction on Sunday. How did you feel getting on the plane from Vegas to New York? Because my plane ride from Vegas to LA was tough.
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Oh, yeah. It's really no big deal in the eyes of God.
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Willing to think about it. Willing to.
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Yeah, oh, okay, good. I think this is definitely fair game.
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NBC icons on the plane.
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There were like two crowds in Vegas. There was the Nate Bargatze standup crowd and there was the Shania Mariah crowd. There was the Sharia Law.
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Love this video. This video went really hard.
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Bargetsy laughing.
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This is why we are not Nate Bargetsy. And there's not people making the pilgrimage to Vegas to see us.
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We're saying hole and cock for laughs. We're out here begging on the street. We're destitute comedically saying hole and cock for laughs. We are destitute comedically. Pathetic wastes. It's true. It's true. Anyway, we saw Shania on Friday. Here's what I'm going to say about the Shania show. Incredible energy from Shania. We need to get her in a better outfit, guys. My girl was wearing a negligee.
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She was comfortable, but can we get an outfit on her in Vegas, please? Dazzle us with the outfits. Come on. Don't do Shania like that in a peach negligee. Totally.
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Don't you worry, freaks.
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She's saying, honey, I'm home and I had a hard day.
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How is she going to get us good? How is she going to get you good in a peach negligee and a top hat? Get that woman in a better outfit. I'm serious. And that's going to be my brave take today.
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Because she gave us a performance and the songs are songing.
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But she was in that outfit I didn't like for too long. And then now it's got a little bit better. But this is Las Vegas. This is the Bach Theater at Planet Hollywood.
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There's no disputing. I would have started with it. She ended with it. I do think Man, I Feel Like a Woman at the top would have really got us going.
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You think that Man, I Feel Like a Woman is the defying gravity of songs? It's a war cry. It is. That don't impress me much. I just feel like I can never get over the de-heightened between... Okay, so you're a rocket scientist? Okay, so he's got a car. Okay, so you're a rocket scientist. Okay, so he's Brad Pitt.
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Okay, so you got a car. Shania, that doesn't work comedically. We need Shania and UCB sketch 101.
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Here's what I would rather. Here's what I would rather. In order. I would rather the guy I'm fucking have a car. Well, first thing, I would say even baseline living in LA, have a car.
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Right. But okay. So you have, I mean, for me, it's like car is one thing you can get from place to place. Like it's not going to be tough to see you next. I would say, Okay, rocket scientist then for me. Because it's like, you're clearly successful. You know what I mean? I don't know that we can talk about a lot of things because I don't know anything about rocket science.
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But I like that you're engaged in what you do. You know what I mean? Because I don't think you're a rocket scientist by accident. I think if you're a rocket scientist, you love rockets and everything there about you applied yourself in this way. And congratulations. Would rather fuck you than someone that just had a car.
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And then even though I'm concerned about like a high probability of narcissism, I can't deny Brad Pitt would be the most desirable thing for me and Matt Rogers out of those things. So that's the order I think it should go. Because I think the dick would be so good that the narcissism wouldn't matter that much.
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And I'm also not positive that Brad Pitt is a narcissist, but it's just that he's Brad Pitt.
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Sure. I mean, people have given away a lot more and less.
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My thing with Brad Pitt is it's like, we can go there. Yeah. But that would be the natural progression for me. And I just think... I don't think it would be too tough to do. We'd have to look at the verse. But, you know, we could do it. I... Imagine we rewrite that Don't Impress Me Much, a hugely successful song on this episode. We just rewrite it and restructure it, pitch it to her. She says no.
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No, she... Trust me, I hope... She never has to know about us. I hope the only word she ever says to me is no. I hope I go up there and I go, Shania, I love... I hope I just hear no.
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That would be fine.
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Sure. You don't care.
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Let's fuck once.
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Okay, so there's Brad Pitt, there's then car. You're saying Rocket Scientist is your most desirable? The greatest heightened?
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Doesn't mean you have good stroke game.
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I don't think you are. Can I say something about you? I've never thought you were a sapiosexual for one second.
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If you are fucking a rocket scientist and the stroke game is on 10, we want you to be on an episode of Lost Coach. We'll do the voice change thing on you. But if you're fucking a rocket scientist who is the best sex of your life or anything close to it, please contact us. Somehow, someway, you'll find a way, I'm sure. And don't play games. Don't mess around. Please don't mess around.
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Don't fake that you're fucking a rocket scientist. And don't try to find someone that is. I'm talking to people. And Bowen, I'm sure you agree with me here. We cut the bullshit. If you're fucking a rocket scientist and the stroke game is looking like what Dylan O'Brien does in the Sundance movie he's in that he just won that award for. Did you see that GIF?
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Stroke Game has to be on Dylan O'Brien, Rocket Scientist, then Contact Glass College. We want you to come on. Not for a full episode. We'll do 10 minutes.
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Oh, period. If you're Brad Pitt, you're a rocket scientist, and you have a car, you could fuck Lost Gulch.
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No, no, no. Because in a world where the thing I'm thinking about is song structure, it matters deeply.
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But... It don't impress on me much... that I have a little sigh come out of my body every time So You Got a Car happens at the end of that song. I'm never going into that final chorus as excited as I could be because I feel... I don't know.
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This girl is a bazooka on stage. I mean, it is everything at 10 top quality. I mean, the precision, the vision, the degree of difficulty that she's doing things at. And for it to look this easy, this is exactly what excellence is. I thought there was a second there after that performance and, you know, when she had won Best Rap Album.
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No, I mean, listen, and I think it's important that we did because I think it'll affect the songs that we write. And I think that now the audience knows what to expect from us a little bit better. And listen, if Shania's whole thing, and remember, she's from like a place in Canada that I think her town doesn't even have a name.
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If for her, having the car is the number one thing, look, I don't know what the Canadian reality is. I don't know what the country Canadian reality is. If having a car is huge to her, maybe she's really excited. Maybe she's, I don't know. What are we going to do? Autophiliac? Maybe Shania wants to, maybe she has a thing with cars.
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Tell me more. Well, it's only open to Rewards members. Sign up in the Qdoba app to redeem the offer. Valid in-restaurant or online. Only on February 14th.
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Okay, I knew there was going to be something. I knew there was going to be something that we had missed and I had a panic attack about it simply.
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I just feel like you can't really name anyone else who can only do 40 seconds of every single one of her songs because there's so many. And there's only so much time in a night. And then there's still shit. You're leaving being like, oh, she didn't do this. She didn't do this. She didn't do this. She didn't do this. But the fact is, next residency. How about that?
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Literal only thing with the whole show is she mashes up Honey and Heartbreaker. And I was like, ooh, those are both literally my two favorites. But I'll say the songs that she did do full lengths of...
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always be my baby dream lover which by the way this was my one thing I'm kicking myself that I didn't say to Ariana on the episode when we had her I think that when Mariah eventually has her Kennedy Center honors Ariana should sing dream lover I think she would crush that dream lover is so good So good. It's so good. I mean, and yeah, that was a real... It was a real trip down memory lane.
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And you could tell that everyone there... The lamely was just very strong. There was no one behind us. That guy was there by himself. And I kept turning around and making eye contact with him because I knew that... We were having the same moment. Yeah. It was joy. I mean, Mariah is... It's just those songs that take you back home, really. Yeah. If you're a lamb, that's a show you have to go to.
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Because it's only going, I think, till at least this leg of it, February 15th or something.
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And I had thought this when, you know, her new stuff was coming out a little early, right in the voting period. She had that insane performance on, I believe it was Colbert. Colbert.
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There was that moment at the end where she was like, and nothing, and nobody, no ex-husband, no husband, no boss, no boyfriend, no landlord, no dentist, no clown, no president. She went so far and listed so many names of people who could potentially hold a position of power over you, and she said that none of them can hold you back from your destiny. I mean... From your dream.
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Bowen learned the rules of Baccarat.
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We had a wonderful unit. We had a family unit.
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Sharia was just, you know, it's a little fun thing you can do with words. It's called wordplay. If you're a Mariah fan, you know all about it. But I digress.
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I was like, this girl could take Best New Artist. And let's not forget Tiny Desk. Absolutely. Oh, the tiny desk was crazy. The tiny desk was out of this world. But she is somebody that is going to be talked about the rest of her life if she wants and plays it right. She's forever. That's a really big, bright superstar.
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I know. What can I say? You know, sometimes I get a little Mariah. It's a moment.
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Okay, what did we literally miss?
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Oh. Yeah, to feminine omen on. The Megan 2.0 trailer, that's cinema.
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No, is Alison Williams not around in this one?
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Because she knows better than anyone. She survived the events of Megan 1.0.
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And barely. If you saw Megan, you know that Alison Williams barely leaves with her life. Sorry, Gemma, the character that Alison Williams plays. Because when it's Alison Williams up there, you completely forget about Alison Williams. You just see Gemma.
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Well, certainly. Yeah.
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You are kidding me. Gemma and Megan are going to team up against Emilia? Like, this is an amazing... Three dolls. I'm so excited for this movie. No, you know what? I have to disagree with you. We have to get Emilia Perez in there. We need these cinemas to cross over. We need this cinematic universe.
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The EPCU needs to combine with Megan.
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Okay, you're right.
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Amelia, A-M-E-L-I-A, like DeMoldenberg.
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If I was in a spelling bee and the word was Amelia, I would say, can you use that in a sentence? And one thing that they could do was Chicken Shop Date is hosted by Amelia de Moldenberg. Oh, that's good. And what's a gag about that is de Moldenberg isn't even the word you'd have to spell. You would have to spell Amelia because that was the question to begin with.
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So my question to you, Bowen, is can you spell de Moldenberg?
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Akilah and the B, more like Bowen and the B.
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That's going to be a must-see. When is it coming?
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The gays are going to be so exhausted for pride. They're going to need to sit down and watch a movie. That's actually so, that's really smart. They're going to put that movie in theaters where it's traditionally seated because the gays are going to need to be seated.
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The gays are going to be seated for Megan in terms of internet slang. And they're also going to be seated out of necessity because they're so tired from pride. This is so smart, bro.
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But I've never been against Alison Williams.
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I literally never have. We have the Alison Williams Cool Girl Award for a reason at the LCCUs, okay?
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Yes. Cool girl to world.
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Have we reached out to Allison Williams about being on this podcast? I think we got to know.
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We want you to get on the show. Allison, come on the show. And we know you can hang. And Allison, we think you should be on the show. Come on.
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Come on, Lost Culture for Megan 2.0, Alison Williams. Challenge. That wouldn't be fair. If she didn't do Lost Culture recess for Megan 2.0, that wouldn't be fair to the gays.
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Alison, I would hate for you to disappoint the entire gay community. That's all. I'm just going to leave that hanging there.
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It hinges on this.
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I hope the only word she ever says to me, like Shania Twain, is no.
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No, I think we'd be great. I think we'd be best friends. I think that we... Well, she's already married, so we can't be in each other's weddings. I'll think about it.
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She should give a speech.
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As darker dynamics emerge, the series gradually reveals the complex truths of the seemingly picture-perfect travelers, cheerful hotel employees, spirituality, and idyllic locale itself.
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So, Valentine's Day is coming up, you know, everybody's going to be dining out with their soulmate.
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But, you know, it's easy to find your bowlmate at Qdoba. Ha, I follow you. Bowlmate. Someone to share your Qdoba with. That's right. Because everybody can get exactly what they want at Qdoba. You can create your own tacos, burritos, and bowls.
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Right? But here's the kicker. You can get a free entree this Valentine's Day when you order an entree and drink. Oh, one for you and one to share? Right. And then your bowlmate becomes just all mate, but it's only open to rewards members. So sign up in the Qdoba app and join Qdoba rewards to redeem the offer valid in restaurant or online only on February 14th.
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Who's planning a trip to Provincetown this year?
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P-Town has so many fun theme weeks for everyone LGBTQ+, like Pride, Girl Splash, Bear Week, and Family Week, plus Carnival and Trans Week.
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From Boston, hop on a fast ferry for 90 minutes. The ferries run from mid-May through mid-October.
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So sashay your way to P-TownTourism.com, the official guide to Provincetown. P-TownTourism.com.
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Listen, sometimes you can look around your house and realize you've been through the holidays. You know what I mean? There's things everywhere. It's not necessarily the most together time of year. Decluttering, you're going to be doing it.
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What do you say your decor style is?
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I think, like, if you want to be comfy and cozy, Wayfair is perfect. Very homey stuff.
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I'm never getting married. I have a total Marnie moment.
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I'm never getting married.
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To do whatever we want, really. If you want to be a music artist, you can. You think I'm not Marnie Michaels?
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Megita. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Megita Perez walked so Emilia Perez could run. That's actually rule of culture number 56. Megita Perez walked so Emilia Perez could run.
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I don't think so, honey, Carla Sofia. I think you gotta can it, hun. You gotta can it, Missy. You gotta sit down at this point. Don't go on CNN and be pointing the fingers. You gotta sit down. When Zoe Saldana is at Q&A is now having to shoulder this question and calling herself saddened. let me tell you something to anyone out there listening.
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The way that Ray opens up her vocal when she's bouncing, like, cause it's so dexterous and it's so cool. And it's, her albums are like, and her music is like a Rubik's cube to me sometimes where I'm like, I do sometimes, sometimes I wish it were a little bit more streamlined. It's slippery. It's slippery.
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If you ever do anything that results in Zoe Saldana at a Q&A saying she's saddened, I don't think so. You saddened Zoe. And how dare you? You saddened Selena, I'm sure. And you know that she struggles. Oh, yeah. How could you do this? But Carla Sofia, I think what we could learn from this, and imagine I had anything to learn from it. We can't all be trolls.
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And I think if this proves anything, it's that anyone can be a troll and everyone should be off the computer. I don't think so, honey. Emilia Perez, this is the weirdest moment of culture ever. I don't think so, honey.
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Oh no, this seemed very of her own volition. If you don't know, now you know. Carla Sofia, it's been unearthed, has said some tough, very bigoted racist stuff in the past. Claims are arising from her camp that a lot of it is fake, but I don't know because she's like half contrite and half blaming everyone else. All I'm saying is Emilia Perez has brought so much chaos and And I'll say this.
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I hope it doesn't... If she was going to win that Oscar, Zoe, I hope this didn't mess it up for her.
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Because that would be a huge bummer. Obviously, we have got a friend in the category. But, you know, it looks like she was going to finally get this huge moment in her career. And it would be a shame.
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Well, when you go that far, I know, but I'm saying the stuff that's out there. I mean, it's like endless too.
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It's just mean. It's not even incisive stuff. It's not like someone being like, hey, let me use my voice in this chaotic way that's also going to make people think. It's just kind of lazy, mean, run-of-the-mill racist stuff and doesn't feel good.
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But my thing is watching her perform, and I got to see her at Coachella 2 last year, and live, she's crazy. Watching her perform is almost more interesting the way that it's at, because you get to the experience of watching it live and really sitting in it. I think one of my favorite songs for her, and don't read me for this, is Black Mascara, just because it is a little bit more straightforward.
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Well, it's like this weird thing where this movie is like all things. It's kind of an interesting microcosm when you think about internet culture and also combining with this awards culture because... The trans community hates this movie. The Mexican community hates this movie. And it's the film. It's like the prestige film community and the industry community that loves this movie.
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And it's kind of like those things are at odds. And yet also now this person is being canceled for saying these things. And so weirdly, the right is like rallying for her, but she's trans. And it's just this very odd convergence of hot button things that all around this movie that is, I will say again, nuts. This movie is wacko nuts. And yes, there is like something interesting there being said.
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And like, I do think it's well-performed. I think Zoe's great. I think Selina's great. I thought Carlos Sofia's performance was pretty great too, but it's just, it's so bizarre, like as a film and as a movie going experience that, That it leaves you scratching your head. And now all this extra stuff. And now it's going to go into the Oscars.
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And I'll tell you what vibes are not going to be as high as the Grammys, the Oscars vibes. It's amounting to be like one of the most bizarre, wacko years in Oscar history. We think Mr. Michael Shulman will write another chapter in his book. And also, wait, one more thing. Speaking of bad vibes at the Oscars, that extended part with Will Smith last night at the Grammys.
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Who's watching that guy on television and not thinking about how he assaulted a man on TV? Who? Is anyone out there just like, are we just forgetting this? Also, Chris Brown won R&B album. All I can make is noises.
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Because he took care of people. And then Will Smith is like, and that's what I've striven to do my entire career, like making it about him. Dude, this is extra disrespectful. And I'm going to mind my business, but I'm just going to say, I don't know who out there is not thinking about him hitting Chris Rock on stage when he's on television at an award show. in like in the round in that same style.
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That wasn't in the round, but you know what I mean? It was just, it was reminiscent in a way that did make me comfortable. And I don't know who's hearing Chris Brown as a Grammy winner's name and not thinking about those pictures of Rihanna when he beat her up. But anyway, apparently there's, you know, maybe the vibes in that room were a little too good. That's just, that's all I have.
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Yeah, I've got something. Okay. Everyone, Bowen Yang's got something. And I'm excited about that because he's going to show off his I Don't Think So Honey skills right now. This is Bowen Yang's I Don't Think So Honey. His time starts now.
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But I'm so blown away with how dynamic she is, and my favorite part of her voice is when she's I mean, she's got the healthiest belt in that room, I think. Well, we can't say that because Cynthia Erivo is maybe the best singer in the world.
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Yeah. And then there was that one slot machine with the Buddha on it. And correct me if I'm wrong, it was rubbing... He was rubbing his tits together and shaking his titties.
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That didn't feel like part of Buddha's thing.
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That one slot machine where Buddha was flipping it and reversing it. I didn't know about that one. So, but... Right. If you're noticing it, I think there's a huge problem and I think we need to raise all of them to the ground. I'm sorry.
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Leave only the Vanderpumps standing. And Bouchon. Oh, we had the best time at Bouchon. Shout out to Bouchon.
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Yeah, we had a fabulous time.
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We only bet with like small numbers, but like we were up. I think I was up like 160 bucks.
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Well, he knows what he's doing.
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At the Blackjack table, I kind of just look out of the corner of my eye and he just like shakes his head or he taps the table and I do what he says and I'm up 160.
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Yeah. King Daddy, his shirt said the whole time. Yes. And he was right. He was right about that. Here's what I'll say. We're going to end the episode. This was a culture catch up for the ages. So much to catch up on.
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I'm saying this was the Grammys. It was the Grammys again. Yeah. I want to apologize if our voices sound a little nasal and coughish. We were in Vegas. You're saying mine is? No, no, no. You know what? I'm so sorry. I shouldn't have done that.
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I don't want to ascribe this to Bowen as it's not the case. I will say my voice sounds a little bit nasal and coughish because I've been in Vegas for three days and I'm as sick as I'm sure everyone is listening to this because everyone in America is currently sick. I also want to implore you not to touch birds.
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Well, Bowen wipes his ass with just his hand.
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Bet you didn't know that about my sister. He wipes his butt with just his hands.
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He goes, Abracadabra! Poopy hands. Anyway, I guess that's how this episode is going to end with a poopy hands joke.
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Abracadabra! Abracadabra! Abracadabra! Abracadabra! Abracadabra! Abracadabra! Abracadabra!
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Everything about that performance. That was crazy. The amount of people that went up there and just completely demolished and created a feeling of euphoria in that room.
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I've always been inspired by frustration.
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My experience, like, I think reached... You know, remember that moment? This was also an award show moment. It was actually number one on the top 200 moment of culture. That feeling of Adele Dazeem happening and you just feel a pure euphoria in your chest watching one of these shows... I had that like three times.
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I had that when Chapel performed at the end when she's belting her tits off while they're running the choreo of everyone running on stage. I was up out of my chair, screaming, throwing hands when the entire crowd, it has to feel awful to be Drake. When the entire crowd said a minor, that was so crazy.
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Like that, that's wild. It's hard to... I would imagine it's hard to feel good or be able to come back to a good place anytime soon after that one. And then the third moment I had was, I guess, a time... Maybe it's one moment that feels like... Two moments that feels like one, rather, is Beyonce's country album win reaction and then album of the year, which...
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one of our long national nightmares was over. At least Beyonce is an album of the year winner. Do you have a vessel for a beverage in front of you? You know what? Let me... Mo.
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This goes out to the writings on the wall. The writing has been on the wall. This goes out to Survivor. This is 25 years in the making. Beyonce, Album of the Year winner. And it feels good. And it was when the world needed it the most. Cheers. We'll see you at the Rodeo Chitlin Circuit Tour.
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It's just like, it's not even about just like her not deserving it. It's about like, it's about so much more. You could just tell everyone in the room was feeling not even just a wrong being righted, but just like that is the person that is the bar for everyone in the room. And she should be up there at the finale of that evening. Finally.
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And the way that she was genuinely surprised about Country Album, you knew that was a meme coming like the asteroid and don't look up. It was headed our way. And I've seen so many great artists online do things with that. And great meme artistry happening from these Grammys, I have to say. Lots of visuals. We have a very visual pop star crowd right now. They're giving us a lot to look at.
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Okay, Bowen, Virgin Voyages, where to begin? All-in voyage pricing, over $1,000 in value, Wi-Fi, tips, entertainment, and dining, even at the Michelin-curated specialty restaurants included. No kids, no hidden fees, just luxury.
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The nominee for Album of the Year because she knew only one really mattered. It's that and then- Because only one would ultimately be the winner. And that's something that she was thinking about that we weren't. Are there even nominees when one's going to win? Think about that.
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Cardboard Carter. Cardboard Cowboy Carter. I wish she had not corrected. I wish we had gotten Cardboard Cowder. Cardboard Cowder. Cardboard Cowder.
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She was incredible. No, she had the star energy that everyone in the room wishes they had.
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In a real way, the entire night was a perfect balance of acknowledging, obviously, the trauma that everyone has been through and the fear that people have, but also the little moments of levity. Like, I loved when... I mean, it's obviously devastating. This is the reality that we even have to have this. But the fact is, like...
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There was a couple moments where they show people going through rubbish and finding wedding rings. Those little moments of hope. I mean, they probably raised a lot of money. They said $7 million at that one point in the show. I was moved to donate. Everyone should donate. I mean, it was a really well-balanced evening in a time that feels so... fucking messed up.
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And obviously, so much has been going on in the past couple weeks. And we, by the way, just want to affirm our solidarity with the trans community and just make sure that everyone knows that we got their back because what's going on is so fucked up.
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Okay, Bowen, Virgin Voyages, where to begin? All-in voyage pricing, over $1,000 in value, Wi-Fi, tips, entertainment, and dining, even at the Michelin-curated specialty restaurants included. No kids, no hidden fees, just luxury.
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A voice at Pixar? No.
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Okay, good. Sure. Okay. I think it's an oversight. Famously, you have.
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That was my dream until I found out it was mostly science and math. There's a lot of engineering.
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We need to reconnect with Sam. Oh, Sam was lovely. Sam was really lovely. Sam is a tour guide at Disney who is an icon and a legend. And this is a big shout out to him.
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I'm coming.
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Yeah, you leave like you let yourself like charge and I'm like satisfied.
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I mean, even yesterday, like we were in Bowen's dressing room, like and Bowen comes in. He's like, all right. So the after party and we were all were like at the same time, like, we don't know. We don't we don't know. It might be a quick drink.
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So hung over from Luann.
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If I knew how to do my own concealer, I would do it. Is it as simple as dot, dot, dot? Kind of.
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Have you been, have you checked in on the new feud?
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It is a lot of fun to watch just because of the like atmosphere of it all. I will say the entire story of it is just, well, you know, Truman Capote befriended these women and then he wrote an article and they never spoke to him again. And that's literally it.
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So I'm kind of interested to see how it's going to be a whole limited series, because even in the first episode, you get it like they're not talking to him anymore. But then I'm thinking like maybe every episode will be like a bottle-ish episode and be getting more into the specifics of who these women were, which is going to be great.
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Yeah, she with her whole chest gets to say a slur and it's really fun to watch her just let it rip. They really let Demi go for it.
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And she goes for it.
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Molly Ringwald.
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One of my obsessions at this moment is Chloe Sevigny, now that this has all been happening. And apparently Chloe simply broke down on the day where she had to shoot with Molly Ringwald because that was how much she meant to her. Yeah.
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Uh-huh.
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And Chloe, who's like the coolest, like you would imagine is like very unbothered about the whole thing. Yep. Actually, in interviews, like I watched her on Jimmy the other night and she's very like Like y'all.
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She's like, like everybody. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. She's like, I cry, I break down to Molly Ringwald just like you, me, and everyone else. Yeah.
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Well, she also was like, they did this thing. Cause like, you know, she's obviously a fashion icon, Chloe. And they were like looking back at all of her like iconic looks. Cause she was like that fashion girl. She had nothing nice to say about anything she ever wore. She's like, oh, this no, this no, this no. And I was like, maybe that's what makes her such an icon.
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Molly Raywald. Sorry, Chloe.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. The most famous example of that is probably The Jinx, right? Is The Jinx.
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Oh, yeah.
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Yeah. I guess I'm in LA most of the time where it's just all dogs. And so I just kind of accepted that me not having one is I'm wrong. Right. And I should get one. I also like, now I'm starting to feel a little guilty that I don't have one. Do you remember when I hosted that dog grooming competition? I hosted a dog grooming competition show called Hot Dog. H-A-U-T-E. Excellent.
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And there was a day, there was a day where it was like rescue dog day. And they made me hold one of these dogs and give a direct to camera like, don't you want to save a life? Like, how would you feel to know that you could have saved a life and didn't? And then I like handed the dog back and I was like, okay, see you guys later. And then I felt bad. It was like, we need to help. We need to help.
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I did my thing. I can be fun uncle to these dogs, actual children. Yeah.
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And it would get worse from there.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
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He got her. Exactly, that was the culture.
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Paris Hilton will never be the same after that.
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We were hard people. Well, we had Seth Meyers on the show like probably about a month ago. And he was saying that like the best time, like that he felt like the winning season was probably like 2008, 2009. Like obviously when you were honest, Sarah returned. Do you feel that way too?
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Yeah.
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I was there. I remember I was literally there. I remember one of the coolest ones was it was the, I guess, Weekend Update Tuesday or Wednesday. Oh, yeah.
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Yes. They would add those things. And I was at the time like a standby person. Like I would wait all the time.
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And so someone at the line was like, yeah, they actually, they give us tickets for Thursday thing, so here you go. And it was you, Will Ferrell, and I guess Daryl Hammond, right?
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Yep.
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The culture decided to be good. No, no, no.
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I can't imagine what that would even be.
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that Dratch went to like the next day was like it was insane like she was like of course I mean of course it's insane but speaking of all this culture so that we're talking about in many ways culture that made us say culture was for us but we have to ask you this question and it is of course a difficult question that is really open to interpretation but Tina Fey what was the culture that made you say culture is for me
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Like downtown Julie Brown vibes.
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Oh, wow.
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You know, Kelly Clarkson just brought her back. Sheila E. 's on Kelly Clarkson's album and I feel like no one talked about it. Yeah, she's on the last track and she's... tearing it up. Sheila E. We gave her a special culture award. Sheila E? We did, we did.
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We gave her something. She's been recognized by this podcast.
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Yes, she must.
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The blockbuster of it all really resonates because it's also about going to blockbuster and only ever renting two things.
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Did you drink a lot of soda?
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Exactly. The body hadn't yet betrayed.
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You liked, like, boy music.
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Who did you imprint on on SCTV? Was it Catherine?
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Yeah.
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Like when something is like, oh, I have the Frisson thinking about this.
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Yeah, you can look up to men and be like, I'm okay.
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That's the name of this episode. No, literally, Good Americans with Tina Fey.
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She was haunted pop. And even when she did like Diva and like did do her own thing, like it was still, there was something sinister about it in a way that I love.
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Yeah, just gender bendy. The song Why by Annie Lennox. I want that as I'm lowered into the ground, I think.
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It's beautiful. Okay. And also, I mean, Walking on Broken Glass, like there's a reason for it. Someone's going to sample that song and it's going to be... Just the piano. It's going to be on Stranger Things or something. Yeah, 100%. Yeah, like... Like that song taking off the Kate Bush of it all.
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Do you watch The Bear?
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Probably one of the most famous needle drops of this year is Taylor Swift's Love Story on The Bear. Oh, they did that? They did that. And to get the Taylor Swift song must have cost a lot of money. So thankfully it paid off on The Bear. The Bear, you're doing excellent.
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You guys are crushing it out there.
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It's so wild to see her like slay drama like this. I am. Yeah.
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She's so good. And I think it was like, I always like, of course, coming up with her, like we always knew she was so talented. But then I was watching Bottoms. Did you see Bottoms?
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I was watching her on screen. There's a scene where the camera gets way up in her face, and I think she's having a moment with her love interest. And I'm like, you got it, girl. Like, she got it. Big time. Big time.
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So I don't know why this was... the answer to how I should end my night. But I get home, it's 3.30 in the morning. I get stoned and order mozzarella sticks bad because I know I have to wake up at, let's say 10 to sort of mentally prepare and cleanse myself, really physically prepare for the podcast today. And last night I'm ordering my mozzarella sticks and I see it says six mozzarella sticks.
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Yeah. You know, when it came out about the four seasons. Yeah. The gay group chats were popping off.
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The gays that remembered the movie were like, like they were very, very excited.
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Oh no, yeah. They're lining up already. I can't get over that my two movies from Blockbuster were the first Wives Club and GoldenEye. That was my personality.
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Yeah, First Wives Club. Though you watch it now and you're like, it's so a movie of the 90s where it's just like, it takes a bit to get into being a movie. And then it is. But I kind of miss the days where it was just like, No, the first half hour is just going to be a lot of relationship building.
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And I can't remember anything else about the movie besides that. And you know who else you forget is in that movie kind of crushing it is SJP.
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So good.
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Except the Beacon. So wait, when you would have a vacation from SNL back in the day, would you go or would you just sit? Would you bed rot? No.
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Never ever.
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And in my mind, that's not enough. And then this morning, when everything sort of settles, you think, you didn't need one.
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Yeah, you must.
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I did want to ask. So like when you're at SNL and also you're at the same time writing Mean Girls, like I guess what I'm wondering is like how long did it take you to do that? Because I remember like literally at the time reading interviews with you where you were like, I just wanted to see if I could do it.
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And then you so obviously could. But like how what was that process of like juggling that? Because that seems like a lot of work all the time.
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Only because, and obviously, the movie is so perfect. It's just everything. It's one of those things that just falls into place in every way. I remember we were saying, it was one of those movies where you sat down and watched it and I knew I was going to and had to remember every line of what was happening. I saw it with my cousin. And I was just like, this is a really special thing.
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And then going to school, I remember I was like all the track girls. I used to run winter training. This is a specific. But I would run track and I would practice with all the girls because we would just talk about things like this. And everyone knew it. All the lines.
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And it was so funny because I watched my one friend sort of, I could tell she wanted to be like Regina George in a way where she didn't really get it. I was like, you don't want to be actually mean. But the way she started speaking, I'm like, it truly took over. I remember it was that and Anchorman.
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And I remember as a gay kid too, I learned the language of Mean Girls because that was what all the girls were doing. And then Anchorman was what all the boys were doing. And so it was sort of this like code switchy thing. Yeah. And I remember taking my dad to see it. And like, he was so excited because it was coming from you.
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And I remember it was just like this, like moment that felt like a unifier, like in high school, because everyone thought it was funny. Everyone thought the cast was amazing. And I really wanted to ask about Rachel McAdams because this is essentially as a Rachel McAdams stand podcast.
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We could just talk about her and no one else. But like, I was reading an interview with you recently where you were like, you mentioned like watching her act like changed the way that you approached it.
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We talk about that all the time, like the sketch mentality of coming in in one mode, especially like because we didn't have any acting training coming up. We were like creatures of the basement, you know, like any of us. And then all of a sudden you book a thing where you have to be on camera acting and they're like, hey, just throw it away. And you're like, I don't know what you're talking about.
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Of a work call? Is that what you call violent shit? No, it was not. What? Because I know you. The second we both went in here today, we both ran to the bathroom and I know what that was.
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You also get a sense that anyone with like a Disney kid past. Yep. Comes in there and tears it up.
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Oh, come on, Lisa. Julianne Moore, I think, well, and that's, I think our favorite movie of the year is May, December. We fucking love May, December.
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That and Four Things were my... I haven't watched Four Things yet. Oh, you'd love it. Oh, you'd like Four Things. Emma's another one. Like comes in and like just... Yes, yes, she gets it, yeah. And gets it on camera, obviously. But Julianne Moore, I guess because what's so fun about the movie is it's like purposefully a melodrama, right? That insane music.
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Yeah, I know. With her insane accent. But then she was talking about like, she's like, well, you know, I started in soaps and I actually did the archetype of like- The twins. The twins, the evil twins, like the amnesia twin. So it wasn't even just amnesia or just twin. It was both.
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Okay.
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Incredible.
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It really is wild, though, because you do a take and they're like, OK, we're moving on. And you're like, there's no way we can. I didn't do anything. And they're like, no, you get the performance of a lifetime. You just won't ever know because it wasn't fun for you at all. Right. Yeah. But it worked for us.
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I mean, like, first of all, like, I wonder how this feels too. Because to join this thing of like, it was like Heathers, it was Clueless, and then it's Mean Girls. And that has to be really meaningful.
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There's like joy in every scene. And I guess what I feel is like, you forget like that such big deals came out of that movie too. Like Amanda Seyfried, like she's just so in the fabric of the movie, having fun doing her part that you forget that she would then become like,
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And I mean, it was, it's like that down to, to everything. And I wonder like in shooting it, did you know that it was like, did you have a feeling that there was something special happening, which feels like a question, like boring question, but like, because it did end up being culturally significant.
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I mean, I think about between 12 and 15 people said this, and it just kind of kept getting kicked around. But this is like the bell house.
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But it really was. It felt like a celebration.
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It is just, you wonder like how many things we would actually love so much that it just get written off. I wonder about that all the time. Like with the way the industry is now, like how many things aren't getting made that like are actually going to be things that we think about in 15, 20 years. You know what I mean? Like it feels very far and few between that you get something, you know. Yeah.
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Well, she's incredible. Emma Seligman, the director of that. She's like, I think she can do anything. She can. Between Shiva Baby and Bottoms, I was like, and we love Rachel.
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I'm still, I still have the shakes. Not because, not necessarily because of the talent, but she was great. The Countess Luanne as 54 Below was, she certainly has star quality. But there's something that happens where she steps on stage and sort of everyone looks at each other and you go, we're getting blacked out.
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So Valentine's Day is coming up. You know, everybody's going to be dining out with their soulmate.
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Right? But here's the kicker. You can get a free entree this Valentine's Day when you order an entree and drink. Oh, one for you and one to share?
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Okay, Bowen, you know what we need to discuss? Virgin voyages. I mean, have you heard the T? It's giving luxury. It's giving adults only chic. It's giving no kids screaming by the pool.
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things everywhere. It's not necessarily the most together time of year. Decluttering, you're going to be doing it.
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Well, let's say Minnie Mouse. Let's be kind.
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I think, like, if you want to be comfy and cozy, Wayfair is perfect. Very homey stuff.
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Did everyone audition for that? Like, did you get a tape from Lizzie Kaplan or were you like?
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Oh, no, no, no.
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Yeah, probably.
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“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
It just feels like there can't have ever been a time when there was like not those people. It's one of those things. It's like.
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You're just saying Lou had the impact of Goofy.
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She was also a killer on SNL. Of course.
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“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
Right, 100%. Like when Goofy walks in the room, it's like Nicole Kidman in the Chanel No. 5 commercial by Baz Luhrmann. It's just like that. You know the commercial I'm talking about.
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I bet it does. I mean, vibes are incredible.
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“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
Of the prom. Okay, so that is a hilarious idea to think about someone playing Didi as like a child.
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“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
I bet. Oh, my God. That's the... People are like... If you could do one role, what would it be? I'm like, I know it'll never happen, but I'd love to do Dee Dee in the prom. I had to do drag for the show I was in last year. And like, I put this little wig on like a little, you know, side swoop, like not exactly Catherine Zeta, but in the world. And I was like, I think I am Dee Dee. I know I am.
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“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
You're DD.
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“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
Speaking of fragrances, I want you to smell me right here and tell me what it is. Okay. Go. You know what this is. By Rado. No, it's Axe. Oh. So I have, yesterday I said to Bowen, I'm like, I have no deodorant in New York. I don't know what happened. My New York apartment has no deodorant. And my mother was like, I want to get you something for Christmas. I said, don't. I don't want anything.
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Just tell him if he wants a stage, we do something called the Culture Awards every year. He's welcome to come out and give his full Mandrell.
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Barbara Mandrell, also, you're kind of almost there with the drag name anyway. Totally. And then.
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“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
We're saying that's the VMA because the Grammys are today. And we're like, we think people don't know if they're going to win a Grammy, but I think, you know, if you're winning like a VMA. Yeah.
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“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
Because Taylor Swift has changed her... Flight?
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She's changed her Instagram to all black and white, which we believe means there's an announcement coming. And I'm like, well, I wonder if Taylor Swift could find out in advance if she's winning a Grammy. Because if someone could, it's probably Taylor Swift, right? Probably. Probably. You don't know what the Oscars, you don't know what the Emmys, you probably don't know what the Grammys. Yeah.
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It's not people's choice. No, no, no. You would know. You've won a ton of these things. They call you before?
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Especially the Globes at that time. Oh, by the way, your guys' host, will you guys go back and host again?
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We're Comcast, girl. You don't want to upset Lou, who's in charge of NBC these days. I will say she was on one the other night. She is alive up there. She goes for it. And it's so funny because you watch the early seasons and you're like, this woman's never going to become a cabaret star. And then you go to 54 Below and she was doing covers of Oh, What a Night. How do I ask this delicately?
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Here's what I'll say. There is a quality to her voice that I think limits what it can do. Yes, it's low and raspy. It is so low.
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“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
It's a Channing, yeah. It exists where it exists. And so I think we're picking songs that just the keys are two steps down from what they even are for the men she covers. Yes. But I will say there's something sort of... She really knows her range.
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And you're never going to see her like go for the money note. Right. In fact, one time she did go for the money note and it was more like I'm joyfully making a big sound than it is I'm hitting a note.
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She goes, okay, I'll get you a bunch of little small things. 10 Axe deodorants. Which is both a trigger to like high school locker room and also quite out of fashion.
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“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
Yes. We were signing up for four red sangrias I found. Yeah.
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“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
I don't know what it was about it that made me feel like this is the drink tonight.
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“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
How could you? And this is also what got me really, I make like a quote unquote famous sangria, winter sangria for holidays. Okay. It's just so much booze. And I literally was just like, yay. And I realized no one likes it as much as me. But because I made it, I feel it must get consumed. And then you're blacked out on Christmas. And I don't even get drunk like this.
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“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
It's only when I'm drinking Red Sangria.
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“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
Do you remember the restaurant? The Chinese place? Yeah, the Chinese place Cottage. So they're long gone now.
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Yeah, 100%. I had my birthday there. It was like a party of 25 underage kids getting so much of this red wine.
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From an Axe body spray, especially from Long Island. That's like a big culture. No. Axe body spray. Yes. And so I do, I am walking around and it's sort of like a little bit of heaven, a little bit of hell. I am a little triggered, but also it's horny. It's horny. That's why I wanted you to smell me, to get you horned up for the episode.
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When did you realize there was, like, music to you and Amy? Like, I wonder, like, because you guys have always been, like, friends. And I think, I don't know how true this is, but, like, you were at SNL and, like, put her name in their ears and then she came.
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By the way, I'm actually, I didn't even mean to do this, but I realized I had my merch.
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Speaking of horny.
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Do you ever dabble in astrology?
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Yeah, so with the you and Amy thing, would you consider yourselves opposites?
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Because it presents us that in the comedic duo, which I guess we've been talking about this a lot being this, but it's funny how you present that and are that.
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Yes. I mean, I just because it feels like again, it feels like that thing that always was. But there had to be a time when it was decided like, oh, yeah, this feels really good. Yeah. And I think that's like just feels like the synergistic thing that must have always been. Right. You know what I mean?
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Well, I mean, yeah, my surprise. I'm like, well, of course.
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I mean, it sounds like it sounds like. Yeah.
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This was also the joke structure they handed to you guys, which they don't do anymore, which as a woman who dot, dot, dot, in a dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot,
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Matt Rogers, dog president.
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“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
So speaking of like the famous of it all, I wonder like you've probably met everyone at this point, but then you're in the Golden Globes room and it's literally like, is there anyone who throws you off?
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Because even Oprah has been your colleague.
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Yeah. I mean, on one of the most iconic. So there you go. But the winning over Mariah is huge. Because you got her with Mean Girls and you have her for life.
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She loves Mean Girls.
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“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
Wrote a whole song about it. One of her best songs. Yeah. To our- I'm so obsessed with me. Do you like the new- Do you like the new- The Renee and Megan song?
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Love it. That's all I'm listening to. Do you like it?
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“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
Do you like it? Renee is a real one. A real star.
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She came on this podcast then. It's like- Her voice in that movie. Were you at the Jimmy Awards when she won?
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And 18th. Okay, wait. Now we have to officially bring her in because that can't be the entrance.
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Yeah, she's a star.
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And the kid that won was Andrew Barth Feldman in the Jennifer Lawrence movie, No Hard Feelings.
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That was a big year for the Jims.
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100%.
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As darker dynamics emerge, the series gradually reveals the complex truths of the seemingly picture-perfect travelers, cheerful hotel employees, spirituality, and idyllic locale itself.
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So Valentine's Day is coming up. You know, everybody's going to be dining out with their soulmate.
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But, you know, it's easy to find your bowlmate at Qdoba. Ha, I follow you.
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Someone to share your Qdoba with. That's right. Because everybody can get exactly what they want at Qdoba. You can create your own tacos, burritos, and bowls.
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Okay, thank fucking God because I had been wondering about that.
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“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
Right? But here's the kicker. You can get a free entree this Valentine's Day when you order an entree and drink. Oh, one for you and one to share?
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And then your bowlmate becomes just all mate, but it's only open to rewards members. So sign up in the Qdoba app and join Qdoba Rewards to redeem the offer. Valid in restaurant or online only on February 14th.
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Okay, Bowen, you know what we need to discuss? Virgin voyages. I mean, have you heard the T? It's giving luxury. It's giving adults only chic. It's giving no kids screaming by the pool.
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And let's talk about the vibes. 90% of cabins have a private terrace with your very own hand-woven virgin red hammock, so you're just swinging there, staring at the glittering sea, sipping champagne.
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And if you're like, I need sun, they got Caribbean escapes this winter. You could be sipping a cocktail in San Juan instead of freezing your face off.
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Which I texted you about it. I said 10 times. I said it's called Mean Girls 2024.
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There's things everywhere. It's not necessarily the most together time of year. Decluttering, you're going to be doing it.
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“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
Do you know what's funny? This person created and started... Our favorite movie and our favorite show. Yeah. And I'm not even talking about Saturday Night Live, which also is in the top two of favorite shows on The 30 Rock.
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I think it's time to move on. Shall we move to I Don't Think So, Honey? Okay, so this is the segment, Tina, where we take one minute to rant and rave against something in culture. And I'm going to get a little specific, and I apologize to you in advance. Oh, no. But I think you need to make some changes.
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I Don't Think So, Honey, Bo and Yang, no deodorant in your dressing room. Oh, get out. Cause I think it's like a, it's a staple, right? I don't need it. I don't need a babe. My thing is like, I needed it. And you remember that you have guests and some of them are going to be in that hot little stuffy dressing room and the dressing room was stuffy.
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I'm turning around, and as I said before, no, not a deodorant in sight in my apartment. Only Axe, which I didn't find until this morning. I feel like, Bowen, we need to rethink and restock your dressing room with the essentials.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
Because there's a lot of fancy good whiskey and no deodorants, no nothing that's going to actually get us to the end of the day, the end of the week.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Because it was smelling in there, and I apologize to you, but you had a lot of men in your dressing room last night, and it stank by the end of it. And I'm telling you, like, I just couldn't believe you didn't have your little essentials. You do have a lot of good cologne. I do.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
Okay, but I'm just saying, like, in terms of the sweat and the antiperspirant, you could be doing better. I don't think so. And that's one minute.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
Can you imagine? Just go back in time and tell us in 2016 when we started this that Tina Fey is going to be on the podcast.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
I will say I did check myself when, I think it was a couple years ago, a few of us were in your dressing room just having a time. And I think it was a week where you were having a hard time. You came and we were just like. What do you mean? Just because like, you don't want to be like, woo, like, come on, get on up on our level when it's like, I am at work still. And I do respect that.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
He does have Grothers Pastilles. Does everyone know where you got the Grothers Pastilles? Yeah, and tampons.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
Cynthia Erivo gave him the best singer lozenge in the world.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
Big Grothers Pastilles.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
I just didn't want to smell so bad. That's okay. And also, I'm being a little like, I'm erring on the side of caution. I don't think so, honey, because I got absolutely dragged for the one I did last week, which was people should not be riding Taylor Swift so hard for the private jet usage.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
I was teasing everyone, and the girls absolutely dragged me. Because I'm harmful. No, no, no, no, no. I'm harmful.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
Paramount, please put me in the damn credits. And that's one minute. I personally like to apologize for not improvising in the ad that you were in.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
No, deadass, I do know that you're in the movie, but you know what it's like to do ads, and this is sort of a peek behind the curtain. It usually happens at the end of a podcast when you just want to leave. And so you're like, coming soon to Paramount Plus. It's going to be everyone but Bowen. All right, see you later, everybody. I...
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
if your best friend and comedy partner said I expected better from you on the air oh my gosh that's rough that's rough no I expect better from myself I'm sorry and from now on I will always say your name I'll sneak your name into projects you're not even in thank you and then maybe just like and you have deodorant for me let's have each other's backs more in the future because there's a magic here and there's a music here I've always known it that's an equivalent exchange you're the Tina and Amy of your generation
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
I would only do it with someone, with you. I'm throwing our name in there. I was like, yeah, we're going to do it. And Bowen was like, no, not the Globes. And I was like, well, I think they're back. I think now we know they're back. You know what I mean?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
Okay. Okay. Are you ready for this?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
If we're like, no, you'll get crucified for that.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
This is actually, that's one minute. And that is so real. Wow, that's an altar. And you know, they're starting to come for us, the people that listen to this, and they don't say their real opinions. And it's like, yeah, I don't think that anyone needs that. But sometimes it gets harder.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
I know, I bet it does.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
Yeah, there was actually a period where they didn't like them. So to hear them be so sycophantic now is really crazy. They call us bootlickers. I'm like, you guys, it's a walk doing this.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
It's really crazy because the fact is we do have strong opinions about almost everything.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
What do I do when Emerald calls?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
Hello. And they applauded the crew. By the way, this episode is directed by Christopher Nolan. It's Oppenheimer the film. It's crazy.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
Yeah, but if Emerald can help.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
Emerald Fennell had gone on a podcast and absolutely destroyed Fire Island and said, this is bad. I didn't get the performances. And Emerald Fennell said the words, I don't think Bowen Yang has ever pulled it off. You would feel crazy.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
But she's entitled that Emerald.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
Honestly, though, this is a genuine question. How would you do this podcast? You know what I mean? Like if you're us, how would you continue to do this podcast, which started in 2016 when we thought there's no way anyone will ever listen to it even once.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
And we sort of established this thing of like we see things, we talk about it, we're honest, we have our little fun with things in the pop culture. And then all of a sudden that does become hard because someone who might be a dear sister to you might be – Right.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
The gentlemen need a lot of lights. Blow out the Countess Lou from my face.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
And you hear they're now going impatient because of what you've done.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
Especially the thing with the Ayo thing. It's like, so someone like J-Lo is so famous and has been so famous for such a long time that literally everyone in the world has said something probably incredibly positive and negative about her just because that's like a colloquialism almost.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
Are you familiar with the Countess Lou?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
And so for her to get dragged so much for this, not only do I think it's like uncool, but I'm like, guys, this is not a Pandora's box you want to open of let's dig up everything everyone said on the internet.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
will be an apocalypse.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
Yeah, that's like, even that is just like, guys, it's just, I don't think anyone's going to stand by every single thing they've ever said. And it is tough. And then when a lot of people do start listening, there is a weird rub. And so, like, honestly, that I don't think so, honey, comes at a really interesting time because I'm thinking about it a lot. Yeah. I catch it all the time.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
And like, I honestly also, sometimes I only ever think, don't take my opinion seriously. I'm like a dummy with a podcast. Like I'm just trying to have fun with this, but people do take it very seriously.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
And that's not up to me. And also like, however, and I've never heard, I've literally never heard from like an artist or anyone that's done anything out there and said what you said on your podcast really hurt me. Right. But like, I don't know if I were to hear that, I would definitely certainly feel bad. Right. Like, yeah.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
I don't want anyone to feel anything but good after having listened to it, but it is a thing. Yeah. That was a good impartment. You've imparted on us. I've imparted. It's been so long since we've been imparted on.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
Oh, yeah. To be imparted in this way. We needed it. Well, this was just a joy and a half.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
Thank you for even saying that. And I just mean, like, truly, like, this was wish fulfillment for us, to say the least, to even have you here and even know who the hell you are. Absolute pleasure. Oh, my gosh. We love you. We love you a lot. Oh, by the way, get tickets to the show. Is it all sold out?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
Calm down. We're doing the right thing.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
Calm down.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
That's just generally applicable.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
One of our dearest friends, Matt Whitaker.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
He's a big, we saw Appropriate the other night on Broadway together.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
My mom and aunt saw it the other night and their review was this. We loved it. You know, it was different because it was a musical. Yeah. And I said, that it was.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
No, this is, see, and I wonder if that's going to happen is like now we're going to start watching it and it's going to look like in terms of fashion, like really dated. And I'm going to be like, oh my God, no, it's becoming the clueless of it all. Where you watch Clueless now and you're like, oh, can you imagine why wearing that? It's going to be like that so soon.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
Okay, well, you should be off book.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
We've brushed elbows at the upfronts. So wait, when you were watching Roni, were you sort of like, I'm Bethany, I'm with her?
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
Hey everybody, it's me, Matt Rogers, letting you know tickets are on sale now to see me on tour. The Prince of Christmas tour, that is. I'm doing my whole album, Have You Heard of Christmas, plus a lot more with the whole band all throughout December. Go to www.mattrogersofficial.com to see me in a city near you. The new year's here.
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McCord.
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That was essentially, had the show gone in a different direction, which was we just watched these people live their crazy lives and it wasn't like as conflict-driven, she would have been the show.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
But I think because people gravitated towards, you know, fighting. That's so funny, though, because I think
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
Ramona. Ramona. I just recently picked, for some reason this was on, it was the fashion show episode where Ramona walked with those crazy eyes and Jill is just dragging and just like killing it in the front row. Yeah.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
Yeah, totally. Well, what if I told you this? So one of the announcements they said was that there's going to be a Frankenstein ride and the star of the pre-show is Victoria Frankenstein, the great granddaughter of Dr. Victor Frankenstein.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
That's Lisa. I conflated those last week.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
A lot of girl boss Frankenstein's happening right now in the culture. We have to differentiate.
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I'm just saying.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
If you went in there and said, I'll play Dr. Victoria Frankenstein, you, first of all, you'd book immediately.
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“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
We went there. He loves you. I love him. I know. You can tell it's a special relationship.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
The Disney relationship is a special relationship. And that's actually real culture number 88. The Disney relationship is a special relationship.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Well, I've become that girl that's like, when the part of the ride that makes people nauseous comes up, I'm like... Keep looking at the planet.
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I have my strategies. Well, I knew this about all of us that we shared this. And that's why I bring it up. And that's why, now correct me if I'm wrong, you've been on the Avatar Flight of Passage ride.
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“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
Don't you think that should be him in the pre-show? 100%.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
You have the scientific gravitas to carry that pre-show through. I don't want us to fully raise a middle finger to that guy. It's not about him. This is about you. This is about what's best for you to be in that pre-show.
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“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024
You made that up. Yeah, I think you made that up.
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Oh, 100%. Isn't it great to have a resource? Yes. The Disney relationship is a special relationship. You go to that person for information like this.
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Let's do it.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
126 - Idols in the Vatican, Haitian Voodoo, and Weather Control
Seine Mutter hat ihn aus der Kurve geholt und ging als Vollzeit-Missionär in Haiti. Wow. Ich habe all diese Geschichten von Haiti gehört. Nur die tollen Landschaften, die karibischen Landschaften, die Berge in die wunderschönen karibischen Wälder und die Leute und die Farben und die wunderschönen und wunderschönen. Und bonjour, bonsoir, wie geht es deiner Familie? Guten Morgen, guten Abend.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
126 - Idols in the Vatican, Haitian Voodoo, and Weather Control
Super warm und hot weather climate culture, passionate when they worship, passionate when they go to church, passionate when they argue, passionate when they discuss. It sounds like they're about to go to blows and they're just like... I want that loaf of bread. No, you will not pay me that for that loaf of bread. I want more for that loaf of bread.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
126 - Idols in the Vatican, Haitian Voodoo, and Weather Control
But to me as an outsider, it sounds like they're getting serious over this. It's just their personalities, right? So we heard about all this and then fast forward to us as a band with this platform, want to do something more with it. So Haiti just immediately was like, okay, that's what we got to do. We're going to go to Haiti and talk about it from our platform.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
126 - Idols in the Vatican, Haitian Voodoo, and Weather Control
And Hands and Feet Project was born in 2004. Also ungefähr 14 Jahre in unserer Karriere. Und Marks Mutter und Vater haben uns dazu geholfen, es zu bauen. Die Song Hands and Feet war eine Song, die wir oft gesungen haben während dieser Zeit und die Menschen ermutigt hat, nicht nur Christen am Wochenende zu sein, sondern wirklich ihre Leben zu lassen.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
126 - Idols in the Vatican, Haitian Voodoo, and Weather Control
live the gospel and sometimes use words and all that kind of fun. Speak volumes with your life and your service and your time, your talents, your treasures, your testimony. Wherever you ended up, wherever you ended up doing, kind of be a light in that spot. We went down there, bought land as a band. We pulled our money together and just started championing the cause for our fans.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
126 - Idols in the Vatican, Haitian Voodoo, and Weather Control
Much like your podcast, Das ist das, was mit dem Hands & Feet-Projekt passiert ist. Ich meine, viele Leute lieben die Idee dieser Rockband, die versucht hat, die Welt in diese Weise zu verändern. Sie gehen zu einem Ort, wo sie sich als eine
Ninjas Are Butterflies
126 - Idols in the Vatican, Haitian Voodoo, and Weather Control
Wir könnten nicht qualifiziert sein, und wenn der Herr uns all die Dinge erzählt hätte, all die Dinge, die wir machen würden, und die Herausforderungen, dann hätten wir vielleicht zuerst Nein gesagt. Aber wir sagten Ja, und wir kamen rein, und die Fans haben das mit uns gemacht.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
126 - Idols in the Vatican, Haitian Voodoo, and Weather Control
Also Haiti, wir waren da unten, und wir lieben und kümmern uns um verheiratete und verabschiedete Kinder in unseren Kindervillagen. Wir kümmern uns um sie an ein paar verschiedenen Kampusen, ein paar verschiedenen Locations. Wie groß war das Problem?
Ninjas Are Butterflies
126 - Idols in the Vatican, Haitian Voodoo, and Weather Control
Haiti ist ein bisschen ein mysteriöser Ort, weil wenn du dort als Westler da bist und du versuchst, die Wahrheit zu suchen, du versuchst, zu suchen, was die echten Probleme sind, ist es wirklich schwer, das zu entdecken. Was wir uns erzählt haben, war, dass es einen großen Orphanen- und Verabschiedungsproblem gab. Aber nachdem wir da für sechs Jahre waren, haben wir wirklich mehr dazu gefunden.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
126 - Idols in the Vatican, Haitian Voodoo, and Weather Control
Und es war sehr bedrohlich, dass es für finanzielle Gründe und für mehr Poverty Cycle Gründe war, dass Familien ihre Kinder zu dem, was sie glaubten, eine bessere Möglichkeit geben wollten. Das war komplett demoralisierend, richtig? Und als Band, als Menschen, als Christen, als Menschen, die dort mit dem besten Herz und dem besten Willen gehen wollen, weißt du,
Ninjas Are Butterflies
126 - Idols in the Vatican, Haitian Voodoo, and Weather Control
Unsere Organisation war tatsächlich die Zerstörung von Familien. Und das war ein hartes Zerstörer. Und so haben wir schnell in den Kampf gekommen, um Familien zusammenzuhalten. Nun, wir sind unter dem Regierung. Wir bekommen Kinder nicht einfach von irgendwoher. Sie kommen nicht einfach in unseren Ort und wir nehmen sie. Sie werden von der Regierung befestigt.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
126 - Idols in the Vatican, Haitian Voodoo, and Weather Control
Aber auch die Regierung akzeptiert Kinder, die eine Familie haben. Und deshalb drücken wir extrem hart dagegen zurück. Und wir challenge sie daran. Und es ist nur für ernsthafte Gründe, dass wir jetzt Kinder auf unserem Kampus akzeptieren. Das ist so rad. It's so absurd to accept a child that's got what we know is the best option for them.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
126 - Idols in the Vatican, Haitian Voodoo, and Weather Control
Even if it's a poor family or a struggling family, the biological family is the best place for them. To have a mom and a dad. Or even if it's one parent, an extended family, aunts, uncles, grandmas, grandpas, cousins. They're very community oriented, so they are living together. They're kind of in a...
Ninjas Are Butterflies
126 - Idols in the Vatican, Haitian Voodoo, and Weather Control
So we push hard for family and we want to be the best last resort for someone who doesn't have a proper family in some way, foster extended family or their biological family. And so we spend a lot of money and a lot of time coming alongside families and trying to find their pressure points. Do they have medical issues? Do they have school issues? Do they have food issues?
Ninjas Are Butterflies
126 - Idols in the Vatican, Haitian Voodoo, and Weather Control
What's the pain point that would allow them to ask that question that None of us here in the United States will ever face, should I give up my child so that they have a better existence because I can't do it. I've got a larger family. And they even go so far as there's some culturally accepted things like indentured servanthood.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
126 - Idols in the Vatican, Haitian Voodoo, and Weather Control
They'll give a child up to another family or to an extended family and they just work for that family so their kids don't have to work, they can go to school. Und so gibt es Dinge wie das, die wir wirklich kämpfen. Wir drücken gegen das. Wir sind so, dass es kulturell okay ist, aber das ist nicht richtig. Das ist eine Person, die im Image Gottes hergestellt wurde. Imagio Dei.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
126 - Idols in the Vatican, Haitian Voodoo, and Weather Control
Sie haben eine einzigartige Fingerprint. Er weiß, wie viele Haare auf ihrem Kopf sind oder auf ihrer Kopf. Und sie verdienen ein Leben. Sie verdienen eine Schule. Sie verdienen, dass sie Kleidung haben, wie Sie es wissen, all die Dinge.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
126 - Idols in the Vatican, Haitian Voodoo, and Weather Control
Wirklich großartig.
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Well, you know what, he was in his high school years and so he was, I mean, just athletic, soccer, he was all about soccer during that time and just, I just remember his sweet spirit, though, really cared about connecting with the kids. He wasn't one of those, you know, some people come in and they're like, kind of like, why did you come? You're just like on the porch and you're...
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Du hast Angst, zu interagieren, du hast Angst, dich schmutzig zu machen und du verpasst deine Begegnungen in den USA. Das ist der ganze Punkt, nach Haiti zu kommen und eine andere Kultur zu entdecken und einen kulturellen Zusammenhang zu haben und mit Menschen zu hangen, die anders sind. Und er war einfach allein. Er war allein.
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Er war allein an den Arbeitsprojekten, allein an den Kindern und hangen. Er konnte dich wahrscheinlich nicht essen oder sowas. Du hast 24-7 auf dem Fußballplatz gesessen. Hast du wirklich gedacht, er wäre athletisch?
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It's fine. No, honestly, he did appear to be very... He could hang with the boys and they were really good. I've scored one goal in 20 years of doing work in Haiti. One goal. And it was a ricochet. They shot at me and instead of, I kind of did a quick turn, it hit my knee and went back in the goal. That still counts. That's literally how I scored. That's so funny. That's perfect.
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Most of the time I'm tripping and falling and I just grab them and hug them because I can't catch them.
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Yeah, yeah. The trajectory of Haiti has been interesting. It was a big earthquake in 2010. Actually, it was a 15-year anniversary yesterday. Oh, wow, wow.
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In 43.000, oder ich verzeihe, 43 Sekunden. Mein Gott, das ist furchtbar. Und dann konnten sie einfach nicht die Aufmerksamkeit oder die Werte oder alle Dinge beherrschen. Es war sehr korruptibel, richtig?
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Du weißt, als die Menschen waren, du weißt, wenn all diese Aufmerksamkeit, wenn die Leute Geld aus dem Land werfen und die Leiter und die Leute, die in den Positionen sind, das zu erzeugen und Unternehmen zu schaffen und so. Es war wirklich hart von ihnen. Also da wurde es korruptibel. Und dann haben die Leiter und andere Dinge angefangen, sich gegen einander zu konzentrieren.
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Aber gerade jetzt, seit 2018, ist es ein echtes Sicherheitsproblem. Mit Western, vor allem. Und sie werden dich fangen und dich für Ransom halten. Es gibt Gangs, die die UN verlassen haben. Es ist ein verfehltes Staat. Es ist viel los. Wir könnten einen ganzen Podcast machen und die Geschichte und den politischen Schema in Haiti beenden.
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Aber es ist viel wie in den USA oder anderen Teilen der Welt. Du hast die Regierungsgruppe, du hast die Bösen, du hast die Leute, die alles runten und alles verkaufen und dann die, die es nicht tun. Und dann in der Regierungsgruppe werden sie... Sie kämpften mit einander, und das schaffte verschiedene Opposition-Partys, wie überall in der Welt. Die Geschichte ist so repetitiv, überall.
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Aber Haiti ist sehr, sehr schrecklich für viele Menschen, in den Arbeiten und all dem, in bestimmten Bereichen, vor allem in Port-au-Prince. But I've been going into Cape Haitian. So it's up north, way up north. It's got a poor international airport. It is safe. It's operating under a different mantra. I've met with the police and a bunch of other people up there.
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The mayor, they take it very seriously. They take this keeping their city secure and not letting the corruption break in. So yeah, we're going to do some stuff up there this year. That's really exciting. It's kind of a little bit of a growth area for us.
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Unsere Campuses im Süden funktionieren auch gut. Jachmel, wo du warst, und dann Tozin, ein bisschen weiter von dort. Wir sind nicht in der Hot Zone. Und so viele Arbeiten mussten weggehen oder wieder aufsteigen. Es wurde komplett geschlossen, weil es schwierig war.
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Ja, ich meine, ich denke, sie würden sagen, dass es die Christianity ist, eine Art von katholischem oder evangelistischem oder protestantischem. Ich erinnere mich an meinen Bruder.
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Ja, das ist ein bisschen zurück zu der Lugaloo-Konversation und der mystischen Sachen, die von Afrika übernommen wurden. Sie sind... Die originellen Taino-Mitglieder, Christopher Columbus, haben die Insel am Norden in Tortuga entdeckt, in der Isle von Tortuga, und dann sind sie in die Insel gegangen, in Cape Haitian, in diese Richtung.
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Ja, das sind die frühen Schiffe und die Piraten. Ich werde das nie machen. So they set up a kind of triangle of trade. It was the Americas, it was over in Europe, and then it was all this kind of Antilles, all those islands down there. Und also war Haiti ein Teil dieser Route und sie hatten viel Zucker. Und also Zuckerzucker und solche Sachen.
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Also du hattest die originalen Taino-Indianer, die ausgeworfen wurden.
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Und dann haben sie es mit Schlafen, die aus Afrika gebracht wurden, repopuliert. Und dann hat Haiti die einzige Nation, die jemals gewalttätig war und ihre Independence von ihrer regierenden Klasse zurückgenommen hat, die Franzosen. Die Franzosen waren auf dieser Seite der Insel. Die Spanischen waren auf der Seite der DR, der Dominikanischen Republik, auf der Seite der Insel.
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So you had Catholicism on the DR side, and then it was Catholicism mixed with this mystic thing out of Africa, which was Voodoo. And they made up fake Catholic saint names for the different gods of Voodoo, and they kind of hid it from the French. But when they revolted and got their independence, this was going back to like 1820, 1906 oder so, 4 oder 6, lange Zeit her.
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Und die Franzosen sagten, wir kommen zurück. Napoleon kämpfte in vielen Fronten. Und er hatte wirklich nicht die Bandbreite, um zurückzukommen. Aber er hat ihnen gesagt, wenn sie nicht Tarife bezahlen, auf all das, was sie verlieren werden, weil sie revoltierten und Sie haben das Land zurückgebracht, dass sie zurückkommen und sie rauswerfen.
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Sie waren also fürchtet, dass sie diese Tarife 30 Millionen Dollar in den frühen 1800ern bezahlen würden. Das ist viel Geld. Und so begannen sie aus der Höhle, in der Höhle, aus dem, weißt du, aus dem Anfang. Ja, sie wurden zu dieser großen Schuld gehalten.
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Und dann gab es immer noch all die Dinge, die sie in diesem Bereich, in diesem Bereich, in diesem Bereich, in diesem Bereich, in diesem Bereich, in diesem Bereich, in diesem Bereich, in diesem Bereich. Sie haben eigentlich Diktate, die über das Land regiert haben, und sie haben nur versucht, diesen Präsidenten zu wählen. Vier oder fünf Mal, sechs Mal.
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Es ist ähnlich wie in den USA, aber es ist nicht genau das gleiche.
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die großartigen Unternehmen. Du hast Autos, du hast Zugang zu allem. Du bist nicht auf die gleichen Dinge aufmerksam. Wenn du nach Haiti gehst, ist es so langsam, richtig? Ja. Und die Leute sind nicht auf dem Markt. Es geht um den Markt. Geh in den Frühling, hol dir frisches Wasser, koch täglich Brot. Geh in den Fluss, wasche deine Kleidung.
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Und dann, weißt du, deine Kinder gehen zur Schule, sie kommen nach Hause und du arbeitest im Garten. Es ist eine einfache Art von Leben. Und so gibt es viel mehr Zeit, sich zu reflektieren und Dinge zu fühlen. Und ich weiß nicht, ob du dich daran erinnerst, Josh, als du da warst, aber es ist ein ziemlich langweiliger Schritt da.
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Und du hast nicht all die extra Frills und Dinge, die dich nur enttäuschen können. Du spürst nicht dein ganzes Schedule. Aber das ist das Wunderschöne daran.
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Kind of hanging out in Haitian culture and you learn that, you know, two hours to market and back, you know, that's a family journeying together and telling stories and grandma and grandpas with, you know, the young kids and they're just hearing about Jesus maybe on that journey or they're, you know, just... in der heutigen Haiti-Welt sehen. Sie essen jeden Abend um die Table.
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Sie schütteln nicht all diese Momente aus ihrem Schedule, weil sie so beschäftigt sind oder so gezwungen sind, eine Firma aufzulösen oder was auch immer es sein könnte. Aber dann gibt es auch den spirituellen Kampf. Sie bewegen ihre Basis ein wenig. Ich glaube, sie glauben, und viele von ihnen, außer Jesus. Aber nur um die Basis zu bewegen, wundern sie sich, ob es wirkliche Teile von Voodoo sind.
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Aber ich denke, in ihrem Herzen wissen sie, dass es nicht so ist. Es ist diese Art von mystisch gemachter Ding. Aber wenn du etwas Macht gibst, hat es Macht. Und es gibt also einige spirituelle Dinge, die da passieren. Du siehst, dass da wirklich wilde Dinge passieren. Das ist schwer.
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Das ist rebelliös, Mann.
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Boom, boom, pow.
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I love the sound effects. Oh man, yeah.
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Er hat gesagt, dass es die Versöhnung des Christus war.
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Es fühlte sich so aus, wie in all seinen Interviews und so. Er hat einfach nur Sachen da rausgelassen. Ich konnte es nicht.
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Wie kann Jesus das Wort verbreiten, wenn sie TikTok wegnehmen? Aber es fühlt sich fast so an, als wäre es ein Schwung. Ich weiß nicht, ob das eine gute Sache ist oder nicht, aber es ist wie cool wieder zu fühlen. Weißt du, was ich meine? Ja, wie cool bist du, wenn du Hallow hörst und meditierst mit, weißt du, was auch immer die verschiedenen Dinge sind, die da sind.
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Sie haben alle die verschiedenen Charaktere und, weißt du, von Bischöfen zu Pastoren zu, weißt du.
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Und einfach wissen, dass Christus die ultimative Wahrheit ist. Ja, so viele Narrativen aus jeder verschiedenen Richtung, die sie drücken wollen. Und dann ist die Realität, dass nichts davon wirklich an der Stelle ist. Ja. Ja, das ist brutal. Es muss, glaube ich, gerade in den jungen Leuten ein Wechsel geben, um wirklich eine Frage zu haben.
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Oh mein Gott. They're like who? Erzähl es dir. Wer bist du? Erzähl es dir. Ich bin ein Ausgleich aus den 90ern und 2000ern. Oh, ja. Der beste Ausgleich. Will McGinnis aus Nashville, Tennessee. Wir würden gerne sagen, wir waren ein mittlerer Fisch in einem sehr kleinen Pond, namens Christian Musik. Audio Adrenalin. Christian Rock Band.
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Ja, die Mainstream-Kanäle fühlen sich, als hätten sie eine schwierige Zeit.
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I mean, there's not much you can really call conspiracy theory these days. I don't think it's like, it's really a lot of the old futuristic movies we're sort of living in now. Like a Blade Runner or all the really funky movies. Just like, oh my gosh, we are like so right there. I mean, it's like, or books.
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They made leadership decisions about not keeping the right amount of water. And the budget cuts for the fire department. A week before, right?
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Oh yeah, that's great.
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Und wir waren nicht DC Talk oder Michael W. Smith oder Stephen Curtis oder all those big jams, but we were a rock and roll band.
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Crazy stuff. They had to move the championship game, the football game. It went from the Rose Bowl over to the Dallas Stadium because of that.
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Aber ich meine, es ist nur das Missverhalten eines riesigen Städtes, das du verantwortlich bist. Du weißt, von dem Bürgermeister zum Gouverneur, alles ist nur Missverhalten.
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Ich denke, sogar die Wasser-Issue war rund um einen rareren... Oh, das Fisch-Ding? Ja, ja.
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Yeah, it's normally what fills the reservoirs in the watershed so that they do have plenty of access to water all the time in that whole region.
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Wait, we can't all be Toby Mac. There you go. You know who's doing it. Anyway, sorry.
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Ja, meine Exit-Strategie für viele der USA, die in den Krakau gehen, war Haiti für immer. Ich bringe es zurück zu Haiti für einen Sekunden. Aber sie leben immer off-grid. Sie haben keine elektrischen Arbeitsplätze. Sie wissen, wo die Springs sind. Sie machen ihre eigene Nahrung. Sie sind auf der Pfanne, einfach natürlich. Sie haben Marken. Sie relying on a lot and here we rely on so much.
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Man, if you shut trucks down or electric down, I mean, people will go psychotic in like two days. That's the scariest thing is people. Yeah, that's the people. They're conditioned there to sort of like, ah, electric's on today. Yay, no, it's off. And then they're like, oh, we're going to just cook under charcoal today, which we make with trees.
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Sie sind so adaptiv zu so vielen verschiedenen Dingen. Ich dachte mir, das ist, wo ich hinfahre, wenn alles verrückt geht. Ja, das ist wahr.
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Yeah, because I met you when I was 15. Was that our Haiti trip? Yeah. Dude, that was one of my favorite trips ever. I'm not even just saying that for the podcast. Hey. You and Steve and that trip were in Heather. Your mom was there too, right? Yeah. It was monumental. Ja, es war episch. Ich meine, ich weiß, wie wichtig es war, weil es um die Familie ging und so.
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Sie bewegen Ponds rund um die Welt, seit Jahrhunderten. Ich meine, im Mittleren Osten, wenn du an all die Dinge denkst, die sie versucht haben, sie haben Menschen in Kraft gesetzt, die umgekehrt waren, um unser Feind zu sein. Dann würden sie sie rausnehmen. Dann würden sie, weißt du, helfen, einer anderen Person, mit der wir Feinde waren, sie rausnehmen. Es ist wie zurück und zurück, überall.
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Hast du gerade den Film über den, ähm, äh, den Mond zu gehen gesehen? Oh nein, ich wollte das sehen. Es ist unglaublich. Ja. Ich werde es nicht weggeben, weil es so gut ist. Okay, cool. Es ist total in diesem Bereich. Ja. Okay, wir stoppen da. Das ist für Unterhaltung.
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That was close. Or powered by. And powered by. This podcast is brought to you and powered by Sunday Cool. We love them. And you better go there. Dot com. Watch it. Or listen. Watch it or listen, please. Yeah! Nicht wirklich. Zuerst mal. Zuerst mal. Zuerst mal.
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I do think nuclear is one of the most proven and long-term power solutions. That's what I hate when we get all gung-ho about wind or whatever it is. Nuclear, baby. We drive all of our industries into one, shove it into one basket instead of like, well, what about fusion? What about all these other things? Can we just like explore a little bit more? I mean, we got a lot of smart people here.
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But they're all trying to hook up, you know, Whatever buddy they have in whatever sector, right?
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Die Geschichte von Haiti mit deiner Familie und so. Und nur dafür, dass es so gut läuft und so bewegend und so cool ist. Und ich denke, du hast es viele Male gesagt.
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You got one? Actually, it's really... That was great.
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I mean, unfortunately, I have a lot of them. Which is really sad to admit. I'm a runner, so, you know... Oh, the pooping in the pants? While running, you know, I would... I actually never did it in my pants, but I would like run and just find someone's tree in their yard and... Apparently. Drop trowel everywhere, you know.
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It's totally common. They literally poop their pants. Oh yeah, they do. Oh yeah. If they're serious and they don't want to blow their time, yeah, they're not stopping.
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I think though traveling and being in a rock band and all the different food you eat and all the different scheduling and stuff like that. I mean, it's very conducive to having like terrible, you know, stomach all the time.
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None of that. Nein. Ich meine, ich denke, Marc wurde ein paar Mal krank und er würde zurückgehen und so, ja, auf die Rückseite, weißt du, auf die Rückseite des Stages ziehen und dann zurückkommen und versuchen, das zu beenden. Also es sind Dinge wie das passiert, aber keine Bathroom-Issuen. Aber das ist gut.
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Ja, es hat dich überrascht.
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Nur, nur, äh, wenn wir ein, wir haben eine Tour genannt, Festival Condillos, und es war in Mall-Parking-Lots all over the world. Wir haben ein Tent gesetzt, als ob es ein Reise-Tent-Show war. Das ist verrückt. Und es gab also nie eine Bathroom, nahe. Ja. Und wenn du ein Problem hattest, hattest du den Mall zu finden oder, weißt du, du hattest zu rennen und versucht, es zu finden.
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Und ich habe es einfach nicht ganz mehrere Male gemacht.
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Yeah, she definitely has to have some moments for that. Yeah, that's great. She's probably pounding a lot of water, too, to help her voice for the hydration of the whole event.
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Running all the time.
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Oh, they loved him. Yeah.
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So our manager booked us for two events in one day. And we were playing Harvest Crusade at where the A's play. And then we had to play Miles McPherson on the campus of San Diego State or something like that. Und so haben wir die Krusade gemacht. Es ist wie eine verkaufte Harvest-Krusade. Ich weiß nicht, was das Stadion hält, 40.000 Leute. Und wir rocken ein großes Haus.
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Und dann springen wir aus und wir gehen in einen Helikopter und fliegen die ganze Küste weg. und gehen zu dem anderen Show und springen raus. Der Sound ist bereits aufgestellt. Wir hatten zwei Crews. Wir springen raus, gehen direkt aufs Stadion und machen es. Wow. Es war der 4. Juli. Und während wir fliegen, sind Feuerwerke nach innen gegangen.
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Es war einfach der verrückte, seltsame, coolen Vibing. Ich weiß nicht, ich kann es gar nicht glauben, dass das passiert ist.
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Yeah. You know what? I think it was probably the Anaheim one because it was quite a bit larger. Yeah, I had my P-Bass and my old J-Bass. They're both awesome though. I love both of them pretty much equal.
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Oh yeah, you said... He gave some stuff, but it's really... It's just way too regular for me.
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Oh man, okay, I got one.
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So Mark, our lead singer, and I were in a hotel together. And we were just coming back from a conference. And he was like, he's like, I gotta go. And I was like, wait a minute, dude, I gotta go. And so we literally like dumb and dumber, we start running and, you know, hitting each other and like trying to pass one another to get to the room.
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And then when we get to the room, he has like this stealth move and shoves me into the wall and he jumps into the bathroom. And I'm like, Mark, I'm not kidding. I really gotta go. And I, you know, you can't hold some of them for so long.
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Yeah. And so I'm like, I'm not kidding. And Let me out. This is so embarrassing. But he's like, he's just like, whatever, I'm in here. And I'm like, I'm not kidding. And he's like, whatever. And so I literally pull my pants down and I started laughing and it was like. And he's like, what are you doing? I'm like, I'm seriously. Please.
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I'm just like laughing and poop is squirting all over the floor. Oh my God. And he comes out. Carpet?
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And he comes out and he looks and he goes, what did you do? Du, klassische Rockstar. Ich habe dir gesagt, nein, ich habe es so schlecht gefühlt, ich habe es gereinigt. Ich war so, ich will nicht, dass irgendein Mensch hierher kommt. Oh, das ist brutal.
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Ja, und je mehr du lachst, ja, es war genau so. Je mehr du lachst, desto mehr Druck hat es und es ist mehr rausgekommen.
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That's a good one. Okay, that's terrible. That was good. Please tell me that's not going to make the cut. Oh, that's definitely making the cut.
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That reminded me of Mortal Treason. We had a band on our Flickr records. Mortal Treason, their staple. Kids in the Way, one of those bands.
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Do you have your phone on you, Will? Uh, I think I do somewhere around here. I can, I know what they are.
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I just love this pillow, by the way. Oh yeah. Nick Cage is my dude. I love this dude. Oh yeah. He was in one of my favorite movies called Birdie. birdy birdy birdy birdy birdy birdy birdy Wir lieben Technologie. Okay, so how does this work?
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That is weird.
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Teach this guy something about music. Yeah, I would love that. Dude, I love the delay and everything on that. That's sweet sounds right there. I apologize in advance.
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I doubt it. Infections never kill anyone. Play this at my funeral, please. He doesn't have the woes of Josh, so he's gonna be fine.
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Was denkst du von Cloud Seating? Oh, Alter. Lass mich nicht aufhören. Ich werde es dir sagen. Meine Frau, Andrea und ich waren dieses Wochenende in Sanibel Island. Wir waren auf der Straße. Wir konnten nicht auf der Straße. Unsere Tröte wurden so seltsam. Wir fingen an zu kacken. Es fühlte sich nach Toxik an. Es war ein Mist auf der Straße. Der Fog, Alter.
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126 - Idols in the Vatican, Haitian Voodoo, and Weather Control
It looked like fog. But it made us cough and hack. Did you taste like pennies? Was there like a weird metallic flavor? It was just, I don't know if I remember that. I just remember seriously like gagging and coughing. And we couldn't walk the beach. And we went inland a little bit more and we ran into another guy. And we were like, we were just coughing on the beach.
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126 - Idols in the Vatican, Haitian Voodoo, and Weather Control
It was like this mist and stuff. It was like, what is that? He goes, ah, maybe the red tide. That's what I was going to say. But the red tide has not come in yet. There was no red tide anywhere.
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126 - Idols in the Vatican, Haitian Voodoo, and Weather Control
Wir waren auf der Kaptiva-Insel, sind auf der Straße gegangen und wir waren da für etwa 10 Sekunden und sofort habe ich es in meinem Hals gefühlt und ich habe angefangen zu kacken. It went into my lungs, it made me cough. Oh my gosh. Andrea got coughing in the burps. And it stayed with her for a while.
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126 - Idols in the Vatican, Haitian Voodoo, and Weather Control
Yeah, frothy. I don't know. It sounds fun to me. It's like saltier, you know. Maybe that's a trauma response. Oh, don't say salty. I'll just have the weirdest trigger words.
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126 - Idols in the Vatican, Haitian Voodoo, and Weather Control
Ich erinnere mich, dass sie in Afrika ein paar Bäume planen, um den Klimawandel zu verändern. Es würde verschiedene Wetter-Pattern einbringen, weil sie... Das klingt viel klüger als Spray und solche Sachen. Nein, es war brillant. Sie haben komplette Bereiche des Drohns durch Erdbeben und Pflanzen verändert. Das ist verrückt.
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126 - Idols in the Vatican, Haitian Voodoo, and Weather Control
Und dann kam die normale Routine von der Pflanze in die Luft, in die Luft, in die Pflanze, und es... There's a really cool movie out about it. It's an amazing movie, but anyway. That's fascinating. So they're trying to do it in more mysterious and under the cover ways or under the secretive ways that we should all know about that.
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126 - Idols in the Vatican, Haitian Voodoo, and Weather Control
And that's to prove climate change or to be able to prove a certain angle on something, agenda? You could go down the rabbit hole.
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126 - Idols in the Vatican, Haitian Voodoo, and Weather Control
Es ist so dumm, dass Waffen historisch so tabu sind. Aber dieser Typ nimmt eine Waffe und tötet den CEO. Und er ist ein großer Hero, richtig?
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126 - Idols in the Vatican, Haitian Voodoo, and Weather Control
Er nimmt große Investitionen, weißt du? Ja. Aber in jedem anderen Setting, wenn jemand eine Waffe hat, dann zeigen sie sich irgendwo und töten einige Leute. Das ist wie, okay, bann Waffen.
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126 - Idols in the Vatican, Haitian Voodoo, and Weather Control
That sounds like Blair Witch Project, but it actually was massive. Shout out UCF. That came out of Orlando. Did that really? Oh, I forgot about that. Total fake, scary movie that blew up.
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126 - Idols in the Vatican, Haitian Voodoo, and Weather Control
Everyone was blowing stuff up for sure.
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126 - Idols in the Vatican, Haitian Voodoo, and Weather Control
Es ist wie ein Dome oder etwas im Untergrund. Und es ist etwas, das sich aus all den... Hollow Earth.
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126 - Idols in the Vatican, Haitian Voodoo, and Weather Control
Ist es das Nephilim oder so? Nephilim. Don't get me started. Where do you think all those creative movies came from?
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126 - Idols in the Vatican, Haitian Voodoo, and Weather Control
Stop talking about it until it comes out. It's 2026, right? Yeah, I think so. I hate when they advertise so far out on movies. It gets me just ticked off. Coming four years in summer.
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126 - Idols in the Vatican, Haitian Voodoo, and Weather Control
Marvel does that, Star Wars does that.
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126 - Idols in the Vatican, Haitian Voodoo, and Weather Control
Yeah. So we're caring for kids down there on our campus. We come alongside families. We're creating daycares so Haitian moms and dads can drop their kids off and go to work. And they get a Montessori education with a lot of cool stuff happening, meals and all that. That's right.
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126 - Idols in the Vatican, Haitian Voodoo, and Weather Control
Oh yeah, Haiti Made too. Haitimade.com. So that's just like a job creation effort in Haiti. So we make stuff in Haiti. There's a lot of actually really cool artisans by nature in Haiti. They're very crafty, handicraft kind of culture. So they make a lot of stuff there. They make wood products. They make paper mache. They make metal. Metal recycled from 55-gallon drums.
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126 - Idols in the Vatican, Haitian Voodoo, and Weather Control
You're blown away at their craft. Ja. Ja. Ja. Yeah, HaitiMade.com. It's all cool leather goods, wallets, you know, bags and purses and, you know. That's so rad.
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126 - Idols in the Vatican, Haitian Voodoo, and Weather Control
We're starting a university. I love that. What will you train people to do?
Ninjas Are Butterflies
126 - Idols in the Vatican, Haitian Voodoo, and Weather Control
Thank you for having me. You guys are so sweet.
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126 - Idols in the Vatican, Haitian Voodoo, and Weather Control
Oh mein Gott. Well done. You guys full on kicked into stain or something right there on that chorus.
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126 - Idols in the Vatican, Haitian Voodoo, and Weather Control
I had my bass in the car. I should have brought that in. I could have slayed the bass line. That would have been fun. Dang it! If I only knew. So fun. You getting your thing set up? Dude, rocking the guitar, man. That's a tough riff. I love it. You are so great.
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126 - Idols in the Vatican, Haitian Voodoo, and Weather Control
Slaying the guitar. Speaking of amazing music that we wrote completely all by ourselves.
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126 - Idols in the Vatican, Haitian Voodoo, and Weather Control
Am I echoing? Is it a capital H? Hello? It's a capital H, right? So I'm gonna go with yes. My answer is yes. Okay, well. I'm gonna say we should trust him with a capital H. Always.
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126 - Idols in the Vatican, Haitian Voodoo, and Weather Control
That's what he's known for, the Hamburglar. I think that's a conspiracy theory, though.
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126 - Idols in the Vatican, Haitian Voodoo, and Weather Control
Ein Hamburgler? Der Hamburgler? Ich denke, da, wo du gesagt hast, Hände auf meine Schultern, solltest du den Hamburgler direkt vor meinem Kopf drücken.
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126 - Idols in the Vatican, Haitian Voodoo, and Weather Control
I love that. Did you see that coming? I did not see that coming. That was some serious lyricist work there. You never do. Chupacabra is elusive. In Haiti ist er bekannt als der Lugawu. Oh, wirklich? Also haben sie ihren eigenen Chupacabra? Sie haben ihn. Keine Ahnung.
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126 - Idols in the Vatican, Haitian Voodoo, and Weather Control
Ich meine, viele verschiedene Kulturen und Zivilisationen haben diese Art von mystischen, spirituellen Dingen gehabt, die sie denken, sind wahr. Und nach Stunden, nach Nacht, wissen Sie, dass sie sich um sie kümmern, richtig? Ja. Also in Haiti ist es nicht anders. Es gibt nicht viele Haitianer, die nach der Dunkelheit raus wollen. Wow.
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126 - Idols in the Vatican, Haitian Voodoo, and Weather Control
Und sie denken, dass Hunde und Katzen und andere Tiere sich verändern. Und sie, du weißt, dieses Lugawu, was auch immer, ist eine Sache, die Leute bekommt.
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126 - Idols in the Vatican, Haitian Voodoo, and Weather Control
Well, do you know of any other spooky stuff in Haiti? Oh man, there's a lot of spooky stuff in Haiti. I want to hear some of it.
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126 - Idols in the Vatican, Haitian Voodoo, and Weather Control
Okay, ja, ja, wir können noch kurz zurückkommen. Ich war in der kleinen Band, der kleine Band, über die wir geredet haben, Audio Adrenalin. Ich bin eine lange Zeit unterwegs gewesen. Ich habe 1986 angefangen, bin in Nashville geflogen und bin 1990 auf all den Touristen geflogen, die für die Leute geöffnet wurden. Und dann haben wir angefangen, zu headlinen.
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126 - Idols in the Vatican, Haitian Voodoo, and Weather Control
Und dann wollten wir etwas mit unserer Plattform machen, mehr als unsere Haare umdrehen und aus meinem Bass-Amp springen und Sprecher und so überstehen und Leute in der Vorderseite spüren. Und Marks, unser Leadsänger, Mutter und Vater waren Missionäre in Haiti seit den 70ern. Also als er an der Bibelkollegin wurde, in meiner ersten Woche, als ich ihn getroffen habe,
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134 - Alien Nukes, Ancient Libraries, & The Dark Story of Ruby Franke
What the world needs now. Love.
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134 - Alien Nukes, Ancient Libraries, & The Dark Story of Ruby Franke
Kids are laughing, flying kites, picnics under golden light. Everything is perfect now, as long as we don't think about chemtrails painting in the sky.
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134 - Alien Nukes, Ancient Libraries, & The Dark Story of Ruby Franke
The butterflies dance through the air Gentle warmth is everywhere Windows open, curtains swaying Birds and bees out pollinating Let's take a walk, breathe in the air Feel the sunshine in our hair It's a perfect day, I swear that's true As long as we don't think it through Moon landing, was it real? Did lizard people make this field?
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Man, who was on last week's podcast? Was that the one with Bound?
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Yeah, no, I'm not saying it was.
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I've never played RuneScape.
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Yeah, I was always on time.
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A zipper? What? What do you put in there?
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Wait, why? I took the option away.
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of shit i don't even think they're like i hope we started fucking yeah let's fuck let's ruin someone's fucking day no they definitely care they're on a three-peat they don't want to start in losers but they're also a weird team well i'm just saying i have faith in faith
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Faze at an event. I'm like, I'm really not trying to play.
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Yo, shout out APG. Fuck yeah, dude. I'm happy about that. Shout out APG, man. Yeah, me and APG doing the Halo watch party this weekend, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Going to be at the event. Matt Craig hooking it up with, I think we're going to have four mics, four chairs. Hopefully get, you can come through, hang out.
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Well, like I was saying, we're going to have two extra chairs. We're going to have Halo pros and shit sitting around. Cloud9 has a team in Halo? Hopefully people are willing to come over and hang out.
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Well, I'm going to hit people up. I understand. But it's just going to be me and APG. So if any pros or... Isn't it? I'd prefer maybe if you ask. I don't want people just thinking they can come in and sit down, but... Hopefully some pros are willing to come.
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We start playing with other people. I showed up to play pickleball one time at, like, a public court, outdoor court, and I saw the line. I was like, yeah, I'll just not play.
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Cloud9. TSM? Dude, I don't. Luminosity?
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Yeah. What? I'm not... I don't understand esports anymore. I don't understand esports anymore. Especially getting in. I'm surprised that I didn't. I think it's good. It's fucking weird.
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It triggers down. I don't know why I talked to this team. This is Lethal. Who is it? Is it Lethal? Ezzo. Collect. I'm blanking on their fourth. You're fucking choked. But I messaged, or Collect was in my chat, and I was like, why the fuck is your team name Triggers Down? And he was like, bro, we're trying to get, I forget who else is on the team, but whoever else is on the team.
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Used to be in Triggers Down? No. Just made the fucking team name, because I guess he was like a fan. Oh, Carmilla. What's his gamer tag now? But I guess he was like a Triggers Down fan, and he just made it that for fun, for like online cups. And then it stuck. And now it's just stuck. Now it's a thing. And I'm like, bro, you got to change that. You can't just take someone's name from back then.
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No, you can't. You were never on the team. That should not even be allowed.
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It's not instinct. T2's not even the coach or anything. You can't just show up, eat carbon. If I looked at yourself, BTH, I'm like, what the fuck? You can't do that.
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No, we're not player hating. Absolutely not. I DMed him. I was like, bro, you guys got to get that changed. He was like, yeah, we've already talked shit to our teammate about it.
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You can't afford that. A Randall Hamm team? It would not be worth it. I tried that for one event. Yeah. They got harpooned.
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I can't even remember what I even called. I think all I did was, like, supply jerseys or something. But, like, I had a BTH Halo team. And then they... It was, like, Monster... It was actually a decent team. Monster, Precision, I think, like, Cycle, or... I don't know. I forget. But they ended up... I think they won one series, got top 12, never won main stage, and then they just go home.
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And I'm like, this would be so useless. Like, if I was to pay for their tickets and travel, which... They get 0-3'd in pools. They lose their match. Going home. You just go home.
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Nothing, nothing. What do you say about when I played for Optic or something? Is that what he said?
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They don't make it to Sunday. Sunday's only, I think, four teams. Yeah, it is, I think. To the top. No one really cares that much about Friday and Saturday Halo.
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I mean... Saturday, there will be a few good matches.
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Or like Optic DSM or something. Yeah. But then, like, Optic would just win.
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Yeah, you just don't really see, I don't know, you just don't really see TSM or Cloud9 on like the days where obviously the viewers probably fucking double, triple on Sundays.
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You can scroll down, Matt. Keep scrolling. Here's the thing, because we got the Halo pod today.
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We got the Halo pod today, so we're going to break the pools and shit down a little bit. But, like, it's coming to a point where I don't think anyone wants to talk about, like... If a... Formal did mention the map set being bad, but no one wants to, like...
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really talk about the map set being bad or talk about other teams like no the halo team doesn't want to go into detail about like any other team they don't want to talk about any other team so it's like even today i'm going to try to talk about pools but they don't want to say like
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this team is going to lose, and then that team doesn't lose, and then OpTic plays them, and it's like, puts... They don't want to put more pressure on their... Don't put a chip on their shoulder. Yeah, they don't want to put, like, add a chip on their shoulder, like... That's why we got to stop doing tier lists before events.
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No more free gas. I was trying to have a discussion about, like, because obviously SSG won, like, four out of five events, and we got two of their players. And I was, like, on our last Halo pod, I was trying to, like, have that conversation of, like,
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is there any um any animosity or like a little beef there between like this with this if y'all play each other's or something like and they're just like we're not talking about it like the first like 10 the first 10 minutes i was like well there goes all my fucking business yeah i like that no one wants to put that that air that in the air no one wants to put that out in the air but i'm excited cut this part but i was gonna say they don't want to do what shots he did
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You already made it wrong. I swear it fucked it up for everyone else because now no one wants to talk about it.
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I don't want to tell my mom something that could ruin her day. And it's like, oh my God, Nick's in this kind of mind state. That's what therapy was for me. It was an outlet to say what I felt like I needed. But it was an outlet, which was a safe outlet that doesn't negatively impact my family, friends, and other people that don't need to hear this stuff.
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Scump Is Going Pro AGAIN | The OpTic Podcast Ep. 221
Yeah, we... You actually got something? Was it nasty? Bro, it was... They were just getting destroyed.
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The hate spreads way faster than the love. And I'm sick of it. And I'm fucking here for it.
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You know what? I've kind of started when people... I don't like it.
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I mean, I don't remember specific situations, but there's always people that... There's always a couple that... They'll yell something from afar, and then... To be honest, they'll probably... Actually, I was going to say they might feel bad about it afterwards. Because shit like that might seem funny, and then... You're like, 20 seconds later, you're like, that was fucking stupid.
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Why did I just yell that at him? Dude, you know what's great? They're fucking such gremlins. I don't even know if their brain works like that.
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Let them be liars. I would rather get hated on than no one say anything. Because once no one says anything, you're like, fuck.
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Because they play all the time, huh? Tyler plays five times a week. Did you say one of them was like a tennis? Really good at tennis?
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But then so we switched up teams.
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You don't lift, man. I think I'm getting arthritis in my shoulder blade. Dude, have you guys ever heard this 45-year-old out-of-shape dude say- You have good genetics. Clearly not. Look at my skinny egg. I can't even grow hair from here to there. I got cursed. You got cursed what? With the chest plate? Bad knees. Fucking... Shit genetics. Incave chest. Protruding ribs.
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Yeah, but I'm just saying if I'm on the watch party Saturday and Sunday and I'm drinking Thursday.
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What about at the crib? We waking up. No, no.
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Tuesday. I know you're going Monday. Y'all are going Tuesday? Yeah, Tuesday. I'd go Tuesday.
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You don't have to go Tuesday, but you would be missing two good dinners, two good times. I also have a dog, so I have to figure it out.
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Should we? You want to take him to Buzz? I bet you if you... I have a daycare he's going to.
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Dewey and Buzz would probably just wrestle for hours. What were you saying about Jude, what?
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Tomorrow morning? No, Wednesday morning in Florida. Oh, I thought you were saying tomorrow. That's why I was confused. Go catch a nice eight pound bass. It was in the watch party chat and you asked everyone but me. And I thought you were talking about tomorrow morning. Because you said Wednesday morning. So I said he was down. I was like, I might be down.
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Then you were like, yo, what about you, Riley? I'm going to put Mark and Zen on the spot. That's why I thumbsed it up. Like, thanks for the invite. Because I thought you were talking about tomorrow. That's why I didn't care. I didn't respond to that. I'm like, oh, it's one of those things. Well, then you texted me and you were like, you coming to Miami? And I was like, I don't know.
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Fucked up shoulder blade somehow, because somehow that's a fucking injury. I have arthritis in my neck. Dude, are you good?
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Zinn's like, I don't want to wake up that early. Bro, when are you going to have the chance?
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But we have production for like an IRL stream.
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I don't want to do anything unless it's making that burn.
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I do appreciate the- But somehow I'm still the strongest, fastest, and most mentally intelligent.
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You're going to be 37. No, it's set in...
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It's sad in 2035. What if this is the savior? I thought they were saying it.
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We say it every year. We've been saying the same shit since 2006. The game right now is the best, man.
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In addition to wall running, though. Yes.
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All right, maybe not intelligent.
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That's all we do is troll. Typing, maybe. What pisses me off is Pomage playing Warzone. I'm like, put the snipe down. And just picking at people across the map. That's what makes him mad. No headshots. I love doing that. That's the only reason why I want to play. No headshots. Just straight. Broke his shields. Broke his shields. Shout out Pommage though. Is he back to the midnight to 8 a.m. shit?
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Production don't count. Production don't count? I agree. Matt counts. I would say James, I don't know. He's probably got me in chess, but I would say that might be it. It's all air. Like Meathead. Meathead's all air. No power behind that thing.
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Are there like seeds before they, before coming? Like what was he looked at? Was he?
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Imagine this putt right here. to win it all. Holy shit. What a feeling that must be.
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He don't even fuck about that floor. Isn't he a part of only five people who have done all that? Six people. Yeah.
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Scump Is Going Pro AGAIN | The OpTic Podcast Ep. 221
Dropping jewels. Well, obviously, right?
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Scump Is Going Pro AGAIN | The OpTic Podcast Ep. 221
Oh, man. Anyway. Have you ever seen the Tiger Woods? Nike? Is that Roger's leg? Yeah.
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Scump Is Going Pro AGAIN | The OpTic Podcast Ep. 221
Of course it's Roger. It's talked about as the greatest. Just type in like the greatest Tiger Woods shot of all time. Yeah, it's the Nike one. Some chipper. Yeah. And then it fucking rolled in. Yeah, right there.
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It's this one. It's so dope. Have you ever seen this? Yeah. This is like a fucking commercial in itself.
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The Nike logo, and then it pauses on the Nike logo, and then it rolls in. Look at this insane shot. Uphill, too. Also, I almost feel like I could make this. Yeah, you can. One man can do it, another can't do it. With a year of practice? No, with a year of shooting that shot.
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I don't know. Look at this. Hank lands it all the way over there.
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I think that's looked at as the greatest shot in the history of golf. That was fucking fire. I'm not going to lie.
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big sunday what are we at or who's we play phase and it could be we just phase this weekend just phase it could be like a we need to win or we're in losers bracket so i mean i'm gonna be honest i don't even know anymore like i'm not i i'm not counting us out yeah good we'll see how the chips fall hopefully in our favor i'm hoping don't want to see the boys and losers again going to do another turn me either man me either
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I feel like basketball now would be insane. Huh? If we did basketball now, it would be insane with how tired we get.
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You wouldn't even. They assigned. You could have been the next fucking lamello ball. Six foot four in fucking middle school point guard.
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He's had God squad. Shut your ass up.
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They should have won with that team. I will say that. I guess they had a good team.
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But when he won with the Cavs and playing against fucking God.
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It was just Kyrie and the bro. Or the time before that, whatever the thing.
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Straight like a five Hall of Famers. Okay. And they were just a good-ass fucking team.
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That ain't what I heard. That ain't what I heard. That ain't the YouTube video. That ain't what I heard on my YouTube video. On my TikTok algorithm.
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Probably made him play better. Yo, shout out my man Rick Fox, man. Metta World Peace. Huh? Metta World Peace. Fucking this day and age's Dennis Rodman.
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But obviously, you look at any fucking team that wins, it's going to be a good... Yeah, it's got to be. Unless it's LeBron just straight carrying, which he's probably the only person to ever do that.
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I mean, I really don't. I really don't know ball enough to talk about it.
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Yeah, Kyrie was next level. AI was smooth, but it was just, I don't know.
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Back in the day, how we look at Kyrie is how we look at him.
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Steve Nash. What about Magic Johnson?
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Well, I'm just saying. We know what you were trying to say. What'd you say? No, no. We know what he was trying to say. I'm not making it about me at all.
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Very good workout. Is it like some of y'all are playing over here, some of y'all are playing over here, or is it just... Couldn't wait for that to happen. The last two times we've went... 2v2s, right?
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You don't get your own Jordan if you're not a superstar.
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Jason Tatum's in there. He's in the Superman commercial.
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Okay. I mean, we'll just have to keep winning championships and see how you move the stake back.
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Well, we've won one.
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We are the current champions, and if we win another one, that means we kept winning. You are losing the series.
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Better at offense and better defense.
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0.348.
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You guys have twisted that argument and words that I've said into a place I can't even begin to come back from.
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The way he runs, it looks like he is in so much pain.
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I know, but he's extra kind of slow.
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I think they can steal one. Thunder, dude. Thunder's team is too stacked.
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They won the most games in the league. They're the youngest team. Guy for guy. Guy for guy. They're stacked.
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Yeah, you got through. You should be like thanking me for listening to you.
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I was. That's what I did. I took in the information like a sponge and now I'm giving it back and I'm getting mocked for it.
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They absorb it.
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They were shooting like 60%.
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I think that was the game you lost your wallet. We might have been there, yeah.
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It was the Isaiah Thomas year. I think it was 2017. Eastern Conference Finals.
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Nope.
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Nope.
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Yeah, that was 2017 for sure.
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It was 2017 we were in. Yeah, 2016 was Cleveland, Toronto.
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He almost beat them in game seven.
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Yeah. He loves hockey.
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No, I just. It was Luka Dan last year.
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They don't get any respect. You're right. And you're giving it to them a lot.
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I think it's just a sign of being a great coach. It instills confidence in the team when you've got someone that likes to be in those situations to inspire your players.
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Right, and if you're a player, that's like, all right, we know what to do.
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We're in a good spot. We got a Pope.
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I was checking one thing. I was looking at the scores.
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He's going through. I watched all these games. But you know he's going through. He's down 2-1. The difference between me and PFT is I like PFT, and I root for his team. I want the Capitals to do well.
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Well, I don't know hockey. You need to score more goals. You need OB to fucking get some Russian gas in them and fire the boys up.
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He knows puck. Too worried about the record? Not worried enough about saving himself for the playoffs?
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Would you have rather had him?
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If you're old and you need rest, yeah.
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But when they were playing nobodies in March, he was buzzing around scoring two goals a night.
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I'm just saying.
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And it's Carolina. We need Leafs caps. We do need Leafs caps. We can't have Carolina fucking Florida.
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Then you got nothing. You lose me.
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Why'd you have to clarify they were fully laced?
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It was his own goal, too.
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Well, the announcers were like, they had no idea.
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But that's understandable what PFT is saying. It's like he was trying to stop the slap shot. He assumed that's the last shot of the game.
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Yeah, so Biz... Biz is a great-looking guy. He dresses sharp on TNT. And then I was watching the coverage on Friday, and he looked like a used car salesman. He didn't shave. He looked like he woke up late, didn't have time to shower. I disavow all these comments. His suit was in his car, and he just threw it on. No, I don't know... So now you're the judge of aura.
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Are you a fashionista? I'm assuming it's like a bit that he's doing because he usually dresses very sharp. He didn't even shave or anything. I think it's an intentional thing that he's doing, like a playoff beard or I don't know. Because he wore the same outfit again tonight.
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Yeah.
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Mr. Big Cat, decider of aura for basketball players.
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You wear a black hoodie and the same pair of shoes.
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Dude, who cares? That happens all the time. Not at the bank.
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People should start talking about it.
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You dress the same as me? But I don't sit here and decide how Jason Tatum, the fucking NBA superstar, should be dressing. Well, first of all, all I said was they were fully laced up.
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If I was Jason Tatum, I would have loosely laced my Tims.
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Oh, hell yes. We know Chiefs, Chargers.
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Yeah, fuck that. My friend texted me. He's like, we're back in Barcelona today, right? I was like, the Champions League isn't even over. What league is this?
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He doesn't want to hurt his ankles. It's pretty important.
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Whatever.
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Thank you.
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Yeah. Well, he didn't draft Daniel Jones, right? Did he?
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He inherited Daniel Jones.
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So obviously the person he's excited to do is the person that he drafted.
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Football, gambling.
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The NFL shield. Lion.
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Gladiators.
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He's also a huge fan of the Four Aces. That's dope. Yeah.
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Four Aces are... Dustin Johnson, Patrick Reed, Harold Varner, and Peters, Thomas Peters.
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Is that right? He's got a lot of tattoos.
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I don't know which tattoo you're talking about.
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That's the All-Star MVP. The most illustrious award in all of sports. Well, it's the Kobe Bryant. That's the name of the award. So I respect Kobe.
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I feel good. I'm happy I said I wouldn't be worried if they went down 0-2. They came out. They showed what they needed to do. I feel like that's going to be – they're going to win this series in six.
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My host back of the week is Rafael Devers. Oh, okay. He was in the news at the end of last week. It was kind of a bad translation. He kind of got a bang job with the translator.
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Yeah, he's getting misquoted, misrepresented, but he basically like... Bet a bunch of money on sports and then... Had a bunch of injuries, nope. A bunch of injuries and he was asked to play first base. He was interviewed saying, I don't know what the hell the GM's thinking, like saying he's essentially not going to move to first base. Translation...
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was more like, you know, he's like, I know I'm a ball player. I know I'm supposed to be able to play positions. It's just not that easy. But then he's since gone 7 for 12. Had a go-ahead home run today.
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Kind of. When we signed Bregman... He was like, I'm not switching positions.
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The recent ones is the one I'm talking about where the – So he just doesn't – you just can't ask him to play different positions. He said he was told in spring training to put away your glove. You're going to be de-aging. Obviously injuries happen. They're like, hey, you might need to play first base. And he was kind of like, uh – No.
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Yeah. Got it. But that's, you know.
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They told him to put away his glove. Yeah. They're flip-flopping. Got it. But now he's raking. So, haters silenced.
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All the haters. Yeah.
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Well, the media is misquoting him. Translation.
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Yeah.
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PFT.
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Yeah, I had that as well.
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So he was like, what'd you guys talk? What'd you do during the rain delay? And he said he got in a heated discussion with his caddy.
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31.
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I agree. He's right.
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Yeah, no, I'm there. We're going to flip this on you soon. I was on the East Coast, like, furious about how late the games were on.
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Yeah.
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Actually. Yes. Not fast, but I could. Who cares? I can do a marathon tomorrow.
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Yeah. Like 15 minute pace.
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What's the definition of running?
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Sub five? I'm going to tell you what I... I mean, I'm not doing... I have no interest in running a marathon, but I could. I respect anyone... How confident are you in the Celtics to win this series? Extremely. Oh...
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I think the Celtics are going to win.
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All right, so if we don't, we'll both run a marathon, me and Max. Nope. Yeah, that sounds fair.
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I'm down.
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Especially when you have like an itinerary.
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Not complaining about injuries or using excuses.
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Get a good meal.
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That's a dream. Yeah.
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Are they done for this year?
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I'm going to look up Knicks at Celtics game five. How about that?
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I might. I think I'm looking at these game time tickets and they're looking pretty good. Are you going to be on the wood? I don't know where I'm going to sit. I'm looking at game time right now. I could get in the building for as cheap as $230. $230 to get in, see the Celtics against the Knicks.
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They asked about his injury. He said what happens in the locker room stays in the locker room. Love that.
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He was definitely injured, yeah.
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It might have. If we don't know, it's going to stay in there.
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No. I mean, that's not bad. That's good. Luke. Yeah, he's a good player. Not exactly the offensive spark plug that Porzingis is, but he's good defensively. He knows his role, but I think you'd rather have Porzingis.
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Well, yeah, he's dealing with whatever he's dealing with. But again, they made it to the finals last year. He just needs to be a spark. Porzingis just needs to be a spark.
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1981.
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Yeah, we're on to the finals.
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We have him, though. He's going to get healthier and healthier. He's going to catch more of his breath. Hopefully, whatever he has fades away. He'll be back. I think he'll be fine.
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Yeah, I was confident. Okay. Not nervous at all.
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No, the Garden is the most overrated venue in sports.
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Yeah, that's true.
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Okay. Okay.
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All right, I'll start. Okay. What is there? Pablo Torre came out with an in-depth, fully journalism-ist podcast. You got this. He went full journal. Yeah. Research. In-depth research. Sourcing. 11 sources. 11 sources. He had someone, I think, go like a family sources program sources. Jordan, like childhood and like where she grew up sources.
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He did a very good job with this. Yeah, he did a very good job. And I'll leave the rest to you guys.
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And I've worked with sociopaths. That source probably also said that before, like, shit hit. When the anonymous source said that. It was before this whole thing became a story.
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It wasn't after this thing became a story.
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She is. You're right. Wait, you said that? I think that. I agree with this anonymous source.
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Breaking news, breaking news.
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That sounds, that's literally like, sounds like satire.
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I think she'll probably pick us up on that offer to be head of production for PMC.
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Well, they priced out the real fans out of the garden. No, Chalamet was there. But like anyone that, you know, the cheapest ticket to get in was like 900 bucks.
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One thing that I probably didn't talk about as much, but she was 19 when she met Bill, and she already had an ex-boyfriend that was like a 60-year-old.
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Yeah, maybe. Like maybe she was in the interviews with him? I don't think that because I'm Team Jordan, but there's a possibility.
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I mean, he did end up. She went to UNC, right? What? She attended UNC?
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Okay.
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So you put the ukulele on the counter.
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It's a good way to encourage vacation. No, but thank you.
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Yeah. People are saying Max is a new Hank, and I'm happy to pass the torch.
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Oh, my God, Hank. You better. My next vacation, I'm balling out.
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I just don't know when that is. Okay. I got nothing planned.
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Just grinding. You are just grinding. I'm just focused on the grind.
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Yeah.
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40.
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Hank, any other feedback?
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What about playoff points scored before 27 years old? Do you see that stat? I didn't see that. Who's leading in that? That's participation? Yeah, per game. Is Tim still under 27 years old? Or is he 27? He's under 28. Are they going to just keep bumping that up?
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Yeah, I'll probably be winning that one too.
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One thing you can do to make that less noisy is take object.new and subtract the methods out of that and sort it and all that sort of stuff. And you can do it all in a one-liner because we're in Ruby. But yeah, LS is another great option.
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One question on that, as far as how you've seen and the progression of the companies you've worked at, documentation, right? Like on the one hand, we've just talked about, you can use cops, you can use linters and say, go out and, try things, break things, autocorrect things, experiment, basically.
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Then there's self-documentation, making sure you're writing good method names, good class names that are intuitive. And then there's inline documentation. And then there's high-level documentation of, hey, we're using this, set some conventions and everything else.
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This is a big question, but what do you think is the right thing to put in each of those buckets in order to make an intuitive project that scales across more than 20 developers up to 100 developers?
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Absolutely. I was kind of going from the standpoint of like we were talking about bringing a new developer in and getting them used to the whole environment. And you've definitely tackled some of that in terms of, you know, here's the process migration example there. What about just getting them used to the entire structure?
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structure of your application, where certain logics live, certain design paradigms that you've talked about. Some of those can be encapsulated in linters, but some of them are larger than linters. And so is that when you're doing the specific guide for walking them through that process?
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And then absolutely. And then on top of that, you have personalities too. And, you know, certain people gravitate towards certain things. How, what's your methods to when you have what I would consider external documentation, whether that's living in a readme, it's not in a Ruby file or a,
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html file or something like that how do you guys have any triggers in order to hey if something happens over here and we decide on a new paradigm make sure you go update that guide documentation or is it oh just like we brought a new person in and we've got this new convention that's not documented oh geez we got to go update that documentation and it's kind of a only when you discover it type of issue
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Yeah, that's always the painful part. And those are great insights.
Ruby Rogues
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Yeah, we're in the same boat. We like to push that knowledge down as far as possible. But there certainly are opportunities when you're deep into materialized views and windowing and Postgres or something like that, where you're just like, I really want to phone a DBA friend. And that's the con side, I would suppose.
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Teach them how to use includes and avoid some of those massive queries or N plus one problems.
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Well, my pick comes out of this. I'd say that Danger.js is something that I really want to look into. We're significantly investing in CI, CD infrastructure and deploying those branches like you were talking about, Dave. And so that looks like a really great way to tie back to documentation and check the best practices that conform with the rest of the company. And that's my pick for today.
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
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says, know when to break the rules for rules like don't repeat yourself. Sometimes a little repetition is better than a bit of dependency. And you link to another blog post of yours called Dry Considered Harmful. You want to unpack that one for us?
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Yeah, I think we fall prey to this because we're such pattern matchers. And as soon as you spot that pattern, you're like, ooh, opportunity. Some of that, those abstraction layers are the power in software, right? Like the ability to build those abstractions are what give us leverage. And so every time we see one, we think, boom, I'm not going to repeat myself. I'm going to dry this sucker up.
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But like you point out, oftentimes that second iteration, that second usage is not actually generalizable or it looks generalizable until you find the third one, which, you know, just throw another param on the function, you know, is what we do. We're like, well, I'll just throw a true false at the end of this thing and
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Then I have this extra branch in my function because it didn't actually map onto the use case like I thought it did. So a lot of it's just that enthusiasm. I think of like, ah, here we go. I'm going to dry this sucker up. Feels so good. But it does come back to bite.
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Well, it's worth pointing out what the rule really was or is that they point out in the Pragmatic Programmer book. And the repetition is not about code. That's where we all get it wrong. Anytime you're repeating code, it's bad. So don't repeat yourself. So let's create a function, name it, etc. Abstract a function. What they were talking about is knowledge in your system.
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Every piece of knowledge in your system should live in one place and one place only. But because the acronym was DRY, and it's such a catchy thing, and it's easy to remember to repeat yourself, as soon as you start repeating something, you just immediately apply it, right? But that's not the point. It's not about the code that you write. Now, some code does represent knowledge, so it does overlap.
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These things are not completely black and white. But that was what they were trying to say. Maybe they say it much better in the 20th anniversary. But that's why we all get it wrong. I don't know, Matt, what has anything helped you? I mean, you're writing this as a reflection, so you've obviously thought about it. Do you just tread more softly?
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I mean, I've introduced the rule of three for myself, which I think I got from Jeff Atwood's coding horror blog where he's like, you have to use something three times before you'll generalize it. Because I have found that it's usually that third use that points out how bad my abstraction is. But I've also found out sometimes it's like the sixth or seventh use, you know?
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So it doesn't always help you, but it does help me slow down a little bit and maybe just like bite the bullet one more time. What have you found?
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Well said. I had to just practice this discipline yesterday because I was creating a game board for Go Times 200th episode. We played Gopher's Say, which is their Family Feud edition, and I wanted a visual aid, and so I found a... a guy who had written one on CodePen. I just wanted, like, just show me the thing, you know, like how Family Feud works, right?
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And you guess it, and they, like, show me what the survey says. And the thing, bing, and it shows a number. And I wanted that for the live show. So I grabbed this guy's CodePen. I just downloaded it. It's just, you know, an index file, a CSS file, a JS file. And I started tweaking it so it would work for ours. And I know I needed seven rounds.
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And so like programmer me is like, all right, well now I need a templating language, right? So I can just template this out and then have like a data, a JSON data blob that like represents it. And then pragmatic me was like, dude, just copy and paste this file seven times and write the actual data into the HTML. You're never using this again, right?
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And if you do, then maybe you can abstract it later. But like, just repeat yourself even seven times. Cause I knew that was it. I was gonna do it seven times and I was never going to touch this again. And I had to like exercise the discipline because programmer engineer me had such sweet solutions for how I could generalize this sucker.
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Maybe turn it into a web app that other people could use, you know, that inclination. What helped was I had to have it done in like an hour and a half. And so I'm like, don't start coding. Just hard code the values and move on, man. It's tough. It's tough to fight that urge to generalize. Let's move to the next one. Here we have a reflection of yours around code comments.
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You say, if you have to write a comment that isn't a doc string, it should probably be refactored. Every new line of comments increases this probability. And then you have a link to a more nuanced take, which is from the Linux kernel documentation, which I did not read because who has time for nuance, right? First of all, tell us what, when you have that, it's not a doc string.
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What specifically do you mean by a doc string? And then how'd you learn this? And why do you believe this?
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Right. So you're talking about inline comments, like contextual things, hints. Exactly. Okay.
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Yeah, I think the rules change entirely for library authors, maybe API designers versus somebody who's writing application code, business logic. I think the rules change, the best practices change. Most of my comments are apologies to my future self. Like, sorry, I couldn't think of a better way to do this.
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Or like admitting this is gnarly, this is a little bit gnarly, but I couldn't think of a better way. And sometimes you just have to move on and come back and it'll come to you. But yeah, I think the what and the whys. Those should be inline comments, not the hows. Because the how can change, right? That's implementation details.
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Oftentimes we see jokes because the comments describe something that no longer exists, you know? Like comments become out of date, especially when you're saying how. That's the most out of date thing because that's going to churn as the how, usually more than the why. But this ties into another one that you say, which is if it looks ugly, it's most likely a terrible mistake. Yeah.
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But I just love that because it can apply to so many aspects of life. But your point is, like, refactor the code versus making the comment if you can. Like, refactor the code so it's readable and clear. But then you say if it's ugly, it's most likely a huge mistake. Where'd this one come from? I love it, but I'm not sure where you drew that conclusion.
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So anytime you reflect on 10,000 hours of programming, surely Stack Overflow comes into those reflections. And turns out it did because one of your findings or one of the things that you believe now after all this time is that browsing the source is almost always faster than finding an answer on Stack Overflow. Now, I kind of agree with you, but I also kind of disagree.
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So I'd love to have you elaborate a little bit on this one.
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Now, what if you're looking at some code on Stack Overflow? Still could be, still look at the code, right? Code can't lie.
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Yeah, it's almost like a good example is like, how do I properly call FFmpeg with these flags from my app? I just say that because we call FFmpeg from our app. I know I've looked these things up. And it's like, okay, well, the man page is a start. But holy cow, have you seen FFmpeg's man page? No. It is massive. I mean, FFmpeg, I give it praise often.
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It's one of the most robust tools I've ever seen. I mean, the thing can do so many different things. It's amazing. And it's incredibly black box. I mean, even the flags are very weird. And I end up on Stack Overflow a lot. And I never look at FFmpeg source code. Now, maybe in that case, I'm just a user of a tool.
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And so source code is never going to be where I would go unless things aren't working correctly. Maybe you just say, well, now the man page is really what I'm kind of thinking about. So contextually, when you say that, are you referring to how to solve my particular language problem? feature problem or how do I loop over these arrays or how do I use this reduce function?
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Or are you thinking, what context are you saying? Look at the source code or what kind of source code are you referring to?
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Matt, you're a day too late, man.
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Let me add on. I think that's a great example there. And let me add this to what Matt is saying. because I believe this to be true, if you have a library dependency that your application relies upon and you're afraid to or for whatever reason will not peek under the covers and grok its source code, you should not be using that piece of software. You should be ready, willing, and able
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to read the source code of your dependencies. Now, sometimes those people are better at writing software than you are. I've learned tons of things. Other times you're like, what the heck is going on? Well, if it's ugly, it's probably a huge stake. You will level up as a developer. You will better maintain your application.
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You'll better own and operate your application, and you'll be much better at vetting dependencies being willing to do that. So I think Matt's advice there really pays dividends Because not only are you getting at what is true, but you're also getting familiar with all your entire stack versus just the parts that you're used to maintaining. I think black box is kind of a lie.
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Like there are some things which they can be a black box for a while, but that's just somebody else's abstraction, right? And so you're going to have to, it's going to leak eventually. And so be willing to dive in there and look at that code. Now, when it comes to learning, you have another one here. Only learn from the best. So when you were learning Go, you were at the standard library.
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Now, I produce Go time, and I know that there's people that wrote the standard library that may say, don't read this part of the standard library. But nonetheless, you went after it. And of course, the standard library is written by expert Go developers. Do you want to tell us more about this particular reflection?
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I like that. Now, how do we identify the greatness?
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You want to be good?
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Do not work in a Silicon Valley. One right here. It was a good effort though. Well, we're talking about other people's code, reading their code, learning from them. Number 14. I'll give you guys this one listener. Number 14. This definitely counts as a lesson. Use other people's code religiously.
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Kind of ties into what I was just talking about when I was saying, you know, don't be afraid of looking at the said code. I was saying you shouldn't use it if you don't. It doesn't mean you have to understand it, but you have to be willing to dig into it, I think. That being said, you say like, you know, go ahead and use. And a corollary is most code is terrible.
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Sometimes it's easier to write a better version yourself. So while they seem to be a little bit contradictory, like use their code, but don't use it when it's bad.
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I have a half written blog post about the continuum between dependency hell and not invented here syndrome and how that we all live somewhere along this spectrum. And I think that your appetite changes over the course of a career. I know that when I was first getting started, I used almost exclusively other people's code, right? Because I wasn't very good at writing code.
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So I couldn't really accomplish very much on my own. Easy example, maybe you're using Ruby on Rails and you're like, I want to do authentication. And it's like, I don't know how to do authentication. And then this was years ago, you would find the device library and you would use that code. And all of a sudden I could do authentication. It gave me powers I didn't previously have.
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Fast forward five, 10 years, I could now write that from scratch very easily, right? Because I've now seen how it works. I've used it. I've got opinions on it. I've implemented it myself a few times, not the entire device library, but authentication, right?
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And so now my appetite kind of changes and the decision making process kind of changes because it wasn't like, hey, I couldn't do it myself, but now it's should I do it myself? And so how do you make these decisions? Matt, you've put your time in. Surely you've gone from in certain areas, can't accomplish it to now you can accomplish it, right? You could code it up.
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But how do you decide what are the circumstances in which I go ahead and take on that dependency or when do I break out the text editor and write it myself?
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Yeah, especially around certain projects where the community rallies into a specific project. I mean, Devize is a good example from maybe five, 10 years ago now where all of the authentication things, like instead of rolling your own, you use Devize and then you worked on Devize with the Devize people and everybody's making that one thing better. And so you have way more eyes on it.
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You have way more feature development bug fixes while you're sleeping. Like that whole community open source flywheel gets rolling and that's a real benefit. Now on the other side, a community can move away from you and your project, right? Like all of a sudden they're adding things that you don't want or need and you disagree with.
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And too bad the community all thinks this is good, but hey, I don't need SMS-based two-factor auth. And now you're just adding lines of code to my project when I upgrade, and I don't care. Not in Devise's case. It's pluggable. It was pretty good software. Still is, probably. But you know what I'm saying? Like a piece of software, it depends. He can start off like completely fitting you.
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And then a few years later, it's like this thing's heading in a direction that I don't like. And then it's time to jump ship or find an alternative or start writing it yourself. There's a lot to think about these things. Mm hmm.
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So we had a show on JS Party with Ahmad Nasri, who was NPM's CTO for a while. He also started Kong, or he was involved in Kong. Been around the block, has seen a lot of things. And he takes a very hard line stance that you should only write code that only you can write. Or you and your team. Only write the code that makes you unique and different and you have the special skill set.
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Everything else you shouldn't be writing. Him and I actually go back and forth on that, so maybe we'll link up to it because it's an interesting conversation. But I thought, wow, here's like a real context independent. I agree with you. I think context doesn't matter. But he's saying like, nah, pretty much if it's not unique to you, you're wasting your time and your cycles.
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You should be outsourcing that and you should only write the code that makes you, your company, your org, whatever unique. unique and different or add something to the world versus reinventing.
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True. There's also business decisions that go into a lot of these things beyond like merely the engineering decision making. Like Mac, you were talking about a lot of these large companies have rolled their own databases internally and. They weren't the only ones that needed that, but they had specific business reasons to do it or they had specific needs or they didn't want to.
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I mean, the context goes on and on and on for these decisions.
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Yeah, definitely. I think size matters. Well, while we're talking dependencies, cyclomatic complexity. Let's squeeze this one in, huh? Because this is like right on topic, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah, it sure is. We don't want to change subject. Number 20, avoid cyclomatic complexity. Novice coders don't even know that they've tangled the dependency graph until it's too late. Ouch.
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Oh, yeah. Well, we've all been in the tangled mess before. Like, this is the dependency hell side, right? Like, how did I get here? I can't get out. Can you quickly define cyclomatic complexity for those who are unaware of the term or the understanding?
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So Matt, number 15, which says most code out there is terrible, was a corollary to number 14, which said use other people's code religiously. I think a corollary, if I know what a corollary is, maybe I don't, to most code out there is terrible is number three, delete as much code as you can. Does that sound right?
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Yes, that's true. That's right. Bug free and zero dependencies, right?
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That's right.
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I have never identified closely with my code. I think a lot of people do. And I do understand why you would, because like you said, you put your, that's your thoughts on in software, right? It's your, it's your time. It's your effort. I understand it, but I do not and have not identified closely with my code. In other words, I've always loved to delete my own code.
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I've never been like, aw shucks, I'm really going to miss you, 40 line function, you know? I've just been like, good, I don't need to do this anymore. Because it's always felt like a liability to me. It's never felt like something precious to hold on to, like other things do. I don't know about you, Matt. Have you ever felt like some code's been hard to get rid of?
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Maybe there's like a, there could be... sentimental value around something that brought value. Yeah. I don't know. I get it. Like if the whole project disappeared, sure. You know, but like that function, why do people identify with these things? You think?
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Maybe it should. Maybe you should have copy and pasted something off Stack Overflow.
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There's probably lots of factors that lead into this. I will say that version control helps me to leak code much more confidently. Because I feel like if it would be difficult to go back to here ever, maybe I would be more reticent to say, you know what, I may need this someday. I'm going to hold on to it. I see a lot of people...
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novices mostly just like comment out huge swaths but leave them right there like this function just uncommented out but why is it still in the source code because they don't trust their git foo or something it's like you can get back to that you know like that's what version control is for go look at a previous version
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It could be. I think it's like, I might toggle this back on with my next commit kind of a thing. There's lots of reasons why it happens, but I find that a lot. I've never been a commenter-outer. I'm just like, delete that crap. Get it out of here.
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Well, then you've got it in your history, so it's not gone forever. That's right. But if most code is crap, then deleting it sounds like a pretty good idea. I don't know. I'm with you. Delete as much code as you can, but no more. Don't delete more code than you can. That would be a bad idea. Yes. All right, back to code that we write, not that we delete.
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Number 18, organizing your code into modules, packages, and functions is important. You mean not just one big function called main? Knowing where API boundaries will materialize is an art. That kind of goes into the dry thing, doesn't it?
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It's the dry principle that I do adhere to. Don't repeat yourself when there are mistakes. Don't repeat your mistakes. Dry them, as they say. Oh, yeah. What is 10,000 hours? So if we assume eight hours a day, five days a week, let's say eight hours a day times five, right? Times call it 50 weeks a year. That's 2000.
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Yeah, you would think this would be small concerns, but they end up becoming large concerns in software architecture, right? It's like where the files go, how I name things, where to put things, especially when you start working on teams, then there's disagreements over how this works. You're introducing logistics into your software by having these distinctions prematurely.
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and having to make sure everything's in the right place name the correct way etc start simple and then only i think abstract when it's uh necessary and beneficial that is an art though and it does take time to learn and even you know somebody who's done it for i think you and i are in very similar boats i've definitely been writing software for 15 years i still screw that up i still make the wrong call and then maybe it's hours later maybe it's days or weeks i'm like
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That was the wrong call. I'm going to go ahead and roll that back. I'm going to go back to where I started and go ahead and just try it the other way and see if it works any better.
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Yeah.
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The other thing is you end up rearranging a lot of furniture for no real benefit. At the end of the day, you're supposed to be pushing your project forward. Anytime you're just rearranging furniture, which is like, I'm going to put things over here, wait a second, that has to actually go here. Nah, I liked it better when it was the other way.
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So if you're working like a typical nine to five, take a couple of weeks off for vacation, that's 2000 hours a year and you got 15 years. So you're well over the high water mark. Did you do the math or you just, you just like, yeah, I'm there.
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These are all things that are nice for procrastinating, which is something I'm very good at, but they're not great for actually getting anything done. Anytime you're dealing with this other cruft, you're not making progress. Where we like to be is flow, right? We like to be where we're just like solving problems, making progress.
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No one's in the flow as they're renaming files and switching from camel case to snake case or in a cyclical dependency hell. I mean, that's like the worst place to be, right? I can't even get these things to stinking require each other, import each other. But it starts off being beneficial because now you're just following a convention. You have a convention, you're following it.
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It starts off beneficial and then over time it can, you can overdo it. You can overdo it. Speaking of things that are hard, naming variables. You say, naming variables correctly. This is your point. This is like three words. Oh, sorry, it says name them correctly. Well, that's helpful, Matt. Name them correctly. Lesson learned. But then you admit, again, this is an art.
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Name your variables correctly. Any tangible advice for us on this point?
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Okay, we're trying to draw some lessons, but we'll just have to reflect with you.
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So like you'll abbreviate things and like really condense them down.
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Right. Yeah, we were debating the pros and cons of abbreviating variables on a go time episode that I happened to be upon. And I learned something there, or maybe it was just coagulated there from Dave Chaney, where he said something along the lines of the further away the variable is from being used, the longer its name should be.
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But like the closer it is to being used, the name can be shorter and shorter, like to the immediate context. So like a for loop is an obvious one where it's like, yeah, I is fine. Because, like, here's I, it equals this. I'm going to iterate it, increment it, whatever. And then I'm done with it. And it's like, we all understand that. It's I. It's not actually confusing.
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But, like, if you start naming your variables that are used further down or elsewhere, maybe they're exposed somehow, I. or Z or foobar or baz, these are like, they don't signal anything to somebody who doesn't have your immediate context.
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I thought that was a pretty good way of thinking about it because I've always gone for this balance of clarity and brevity, but it's always been a hard balance to strike.
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Yeah, I think in the case of like a for loop, I think I is just totally fine. That's my take on it. Like I would use it.
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Yeah, I think it's an iterator. Like that variable is one that you're using to iterate. And so I'd call it iterator, something like that.
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This is why Matt likes to make them as small as possible because it's just annoying. Right. Like, it's just a balance of, like, this annoys me, even with tab completion, versus this has a useful symbol. Like, I don't understand in Go, so if error, not equal null, or if, you know, ERR. What's up with that? You're saving literally two letters, error versus er.
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So you're well over, where did you get, where did you earn your keep? You've had a couple of different jobs. You want to tell us about your, the 10,000 hours you put in, where it was and what kind of stuff you worked on?
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But it's a convention of the community, so everybody knows what it is. I don't think it's ambiguous when you see F-E-R-R. I understand that's the error. But the abbreviation there to me is like, what am I gaining? I'm saving two letters. I understand when you take internationalization and you say I-18-N. That's a huge win for all of us, right? Yeah.
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But ERR, as an abbreviation for E-R-R-O-R, it just seems a little bit silly. That being said, we all do it. We're all on board. It's clear. It's not a problem. I just don't understand the win.
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Yeah.
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Well, I'm sure, and I don't know, Matt, you're more of a gopher than I am, but I think when in the go community, when they use ERR, it's representing an error, isn't it?
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Yeah, I agree.
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Yeah. Right. I agree. Whatever, are the idioms of the language or the runtime or whatever it is the community that you're working in follow those conventions because that's where clarity is just for free like you get it for free and even if your idea is more clear to you you're breaking convention and so it's less clear almost de facto to everybody else but in the case where there is no convention
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I think Dave Cheney's rule of like the further away a thing is from being used, the more verbose or more information has to be in the variable name. I think that's a pretty cool rule of thumb. Obviously rules are meant to be broken. So there are times where it may not make sense, but I thought that was a, an actual tangible way of a takeaway.
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Because when I say, I like to say, Hey, this variable name is terrible too. But like, Lacking any of their information. Like, well, that's not useful. How could it be better? Like, well, it's 27 characters long. So that's not good.
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Yeah. If you can't think of a good variable name, this is where a code comment comes into place. Apologize. Be like, this is not the greatest name ever, but I needed to finish this feature, so this is what I got. Please, think of a better name. Yeah, open to consideration. Feedback welcome. If you're confused by this variable name, you're just like me. I'm also confused.
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Those are the kind of comments I enjoy. Because you get a chuckle even when you come back to it later. You're like, oh yeah, I couldn't think of a name for this thing. Then you sit there and you're like, hmm, I still can't think of a good one. But sometimes it just comes to you. All right, let's hit another one here. This one's a little bit bigger picture. Technology does not diffuse equally.
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There's more to your reflection than just that. But I want to stop there and have you talk first. So go ahead and unpack that phrase for us. Why do you think that's the case?
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That one absolutely resonates with me. One example I cite often, which I'm still impressed by, is Dan Abramov's stealing of the Elm architecture for Redux. And he came on the show back when Redux first started getting wide use in the React community. And he basically said, yeah, I saw what the Elm folks were doing over there. And it was awesome, their architecture for state.
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And I decided React needed that. And so I built Redux. And shamelessly, great artist Steel. And he gave great credit to the Elm folks for coming up with a cool system that Dan learned about and appreciated and said, I'm going to bring that over here.
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and everybody benefits i think when those things propagate across community bounds for sure so individual takeaways there i guess is kind of like keep your head up and and know what other people are working on or don't don't niche down or don't go so focused in on a singular aspect of any specific part of the tech world or is that the advice then seems like it is
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Here's another awesome example. This happened just recently. I love seeing it because it means we're having a little bit of impact out there. So there is this idea with to do comments, which talk about commenting and best practices is that, you know, you always leave these to do's lying around our code bases and then nothing else happens. Like that's where they are.
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And usually these things never get done. And a lot of times it's because you forget about it or it depends on something else changing. Well, there was a cool idea coming out of, I think, the Rust community, and there's also a Ruby gem for this, where they started having these self-destructing to-dos. Have you guys heard of these? So it's like you write your to-do.
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It's like a static analyzer kind of a thing. You write your to-dos in a specific syntax where you can apply criteria to your to-do, whether it's based on a certain time frame or based on... a URL that has to, whatever. I can't remember all the different things, but you can add these conditions to these to-dos.
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And then the tooling provides integrations, I believe, into editors and different linters and stuff to like bring, float those to-dos. It's kind of like with Gmail where you can like push things off till later and then they come back. And that was a really cool idea. Well, then somebody got inspired by that and they made one for Python.
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So that person's name is Clemon Seaver and he wrote To Do or Die. They're called To Do or Die. And they're to-do-or-die Python edition. So we covered that one. We covered the Rust one. And then the Python one cropped up. And then somebody else was inspired by that, Brian Underwood. And he wrote one for the Elixir community in Credo called Credo to-do or deny.
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And Credo is like a linting tool or a best practice following kind of analyzer tool for Elixir. And so now this concept, which was over there in the Rust world of, hey, what if our to-dos had these, you know, were better than what they already are.
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that idea is picked up and kind of propagated around and like way more people get to benefit because these people were paying attention to other camps and willing to put the work in to like provide that for their language of choice it's pretty sweet that's awesome yeah Well, Matt, we've come to the end of our time here. This has been awesome.
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I appreciate you writing down what you did so that we all can learn from your reflections. We can discuss and pick them apart and agree or disagree. Certainly propagating good ideas and your hard-earned experience out there for other people to learn from. I think that's really cool and appreciate you writing up. Looks like you're blogging quite a bit lately. We'll have links to your blog
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this article, everything else we mentioned that jazz party episode as well in the show notes for everybody. The one I referenced with Ahmad Nasri, if you want to listen to that discussion as well. Anything else you want to say, Matt, before we call the show?
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Yeah, it was lots of fun.
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Well, you can learn from experience, but you can also, life hack, learn from other people's experience. So I loved this post. You had 31 things that you've reflected, and it is specific to programming. These are not large life lessons or people lessons, you say. These are like specific programming lessons that you've learned. And I thought, let's get some of these out.
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We're not going to cover all 31 here. We'll reference the blog post, of course, but... It's nice to have the one-liner because it can resonate with you or maybe shock you, but then I think it's even nicer to have a conversation around these things. Hopefully, they become even more sticky or more real to people.
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So we're just going to go down, pick a few, see how long we last, and talk about some of these reflections of yours. Sound good?
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What do you think, Jared? Sounds good. We'll have to partially cover a few and still have arguments over, was that actually one? That's right. We won't use any of the real words. It'd be ambiguous, right? All the words have been changed to protect the innocent. Sounds good. Free t-shirt. Why not, right? That's right. Could be the price is right. Just don't go over, be under. Okay, don't go over.
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Adam will post the official rules in the show notes.
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This audience is software developers. We are pedantic, so we want to have the specifics laid out in code if possible. Can you put in a smart contract, Adam? That would be appreciated.
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All right, let's pick up on a reflection. This seems to be perhaps your favorite, or you said you wrote some configuration language yourself. Here's one about configuration. I had not heard of this. This is reflection number 30. Oh, I probably shouldn't list them now because we're making it more difficult. This may or may not be in your list. And this is about the heptagon of configuration.
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Matt, I'm going to let you explain that to me because I've never heard of this before.
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I guess what's the takeaway there? Is it like just stick with bash and everything will be better? Or is this like necessary complexity? Or is this cycle virtuous or vicious?
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There's an analog to this in economics. Benedict Evans talks about the process of bundling and unbundling. And he says in any given industry, you're either in a bundling process or an unbundling process. And it's cyclical, right? So an example of that is like television, where we were all cable TV, everything was bundled as one, and then we broke out of that.
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individual on demand, subscribe to this, that, the other thing. And now we're like in a rebundling and it's happening. You can see it with YouTube TV and different aggregators trying to pull together content. And that sounds very inefficient. Like your Heptagon sounds inefficient because it's like, well, we're going around in this circle.
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But what I've heard pointed out is that progress often looks like a circle when you look at it on its head, like in a two-dimensional plane. But then when you look at it in three-dimensional, it's more like a helix where it is moving in a circular way, but it's getting better as it goes. And I think with software, that's a lot of what we're seeing is
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these iterations and a lot of times returning to the old idea, but you're returning to it with new eyes and returning to it with new tools. And so you are building up, but you're not like building blocks on top of each other. You're kind of like circling a wagon, but you're going up, you know, it's like a helix rising, which is slower than we would want it to, but it's still progress, right?
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Well, another lesson here is one that we touched on with the Brag Prog fellas themselves around dry. This is always controversial, dry. And it's because we all think about it a little bit differently, or I think that we all misunderstand what their point was.
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They did point out on that episode when we had their 20th anniversary show that one of the most misunderstood points in the Prague Prague book is the chapter on dry. So they tried to rewrite it. I haven't read the rewrite very closely to know if they accomplished clarifying that. But you have a point here, one of your reflections here.
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Yeah, I didn't even talk too good about those folks when I had to go to work with them every day. So I'll tell you exactly. Come on, Matt. Let them have it. I'll be straight, very straight with you. Congress is either afraid or corrupt in most circumstances. And the fear derives from the sense of any criticism being dispositive.
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What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
I had a lot of colleagues in Congress whose goal was just to not be mentioned. Because they see the stats, over 90% of people in Congress get reelected. And so if you're not getting mentioned frequently, you're not going to be one of the outliers that is at risk of losing the power that you've worked to accumulate.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
And that really, really drives people to be adverse to anything that requires them to take a side. That's why you see so many bills that you think, gosh, did we really need to rename 13 post offices this week while President Trump is seeking critical trade authority or national security authorities? And then the other part is the corruption issue.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
When I was in Congress, I was the only Republican congressman who refused all lobbyist and PAC donations. And...
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
Even people I like, even people I would knock on doors for and donate to would have the audacity to stand before their constituents and say that the hundreds of thousands of dollars or millions of dollars that they were getting from professional power brokers was not tied to some expectation of their behavior on the other end.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
And we all know that instinctively, but we forgive people who do it because we say, well, they just have to. You've got to fund your campaigns somehow. And I came to the realization that if that's the way I had to fund my campaigns, I did not want this job anymore. I did not want elections to just be about who got to be valets for the same special interests.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
in big pharma or big business or who wanted open borders or trade agreements that hollowed out the middle class while building up the middle kingdom. And so the fear and corruption paralyzes the place. And then there is a muscle memory to just fund everything all at once. And this would be one disagreement I have with the Trump strategy. And President
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
Trump's a far better strategist, so he's probably right and I'm probably wrong, but I think that we should have single subject bills that only deal with one thing at a time. And I believe that because when you do it the other way, there is no way to scrutinize what is working and what is not working, what is harmful and what is helpful.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
And when we tried to put up reasonable reductions in obviously wasteful programs, there would be a block of Republican votes against us to merely maintain the structure that did not allow that type of review because they may be subject to that review eliminating some of their programs.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
And I pause for what we are enjoying and what we have achieved, and it is remarkable, and it must be nurtured. I heard in hour after hour of congressional testimony from Biden administration officials, Mayorkas, that the border was just an unsolvable problem, that it was like a Rubik's cube, that we just couldn't figure it out under any circumstance.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
We had a Republican who sat down in the budget negotiations and said, I'll be for any cut so long as it's the cross the board to everything and not reviewing individual things. And I said, why? He said, well, because mine wouldn't survive that review. And that was like an acceptable answer. And so here's a tangible vote that I was aggrieved by.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
You see Elon pointing out how USAID was really just a slush fund for the global left for their regime change ambitions and their social engineering ambitions. That's what USAID has largely been. Eli Crane, a terrific congressman from Arizona, put up an amendment to just cut their money in half And 141 Republicans voted against Eli Crane's amendment.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
And those same people show up now and say, we love Doge, we love Elon, cut it. But when they had the chance to vote, they just voted in lockstep because of the fear and because of the corruption. Now, I tried everything to break through that. I tried shaming them. I tried altering my own behavior with donors. I fired the guy who sat in front of the building. And all of that was insufficient.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
And my only hope is that courage can be contagious with President Trump and with the effort that he has put into this initiative that the members of Congress will do what is necessary. And I think the obvious first step is to take his most popular executive orders and to put them into permanent law. And if we can't get the votes, show who's voting no.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
I'm so happy with all of those things and getting those things right. If you got any one of those things right, it would be deemed one of the most consequential presidencies in all of our life. If you could do all of that, it would be incredible. But if we do all of that... and you keep the structural deficit in place that we have on spending, we will not save the country.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
If we have a secure border but no economy, we will not save the country. We are headed to some necessary austerity, and that only gets harder the longer you wait. I heard a story from this last week in Congress where they were trying to say, well, where can we get some cuts? And the Medicaid program is an important program, but it is rife with fraud.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
And a lot of the waste in Medicaid is driven by the fact that the federal government runs it. Because states would come up with more cost-effective, innovative ways to be able to keep people healthy in their jurisdictions. But no, no, no. We have a system where you have to spend more state money in Medicaid in order to activate a federal drawdown.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
So Speaker Johnson and some smart folks said, tell you what, why don't we do a plan to cap Medicaid at our current spending and then just send it to the states and block grant it, and then some will succeed, some will fail, best practices will emerge, and they'll be copied in our federalist system.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
And now we see with vision and resolve and with a few high profile deportations to some very unpleasant places, not only is our government deporting people, people are deporting themselves. Thank you.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
And Republicans were so offended that he would have the nerve to cut future expected Medicaid growth that they walked out of the room. And wouldn't even listen, Derek Van Orton of Wisconsin.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
And that should really worry us because if we don't believe in unlocking innovation, then this is still going to be a very expensive government to run, far more expensive than we are able to generate in taxes or in any tariff. And so I think the problem is structural. I think that you have to get to the single subject bills.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
I don't believe the big, beautiful bill is going to result in substantial reductions in spending, and that's still the meat on the bone. That's still the work we're going to have to do. It's not a criticism of the important tax work and the important border work, but the spending hawks have become an endangered species on Capitol Hill, and I'll still fly with them.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
Well, I have some impolitic views on this. I believe that the most... Well, who's left in the Democratic Party are, like, the beta males, the unsuccessful males, the angry lesbian, pitbull-adopting lesbians... You got Tim Walz... And then the transsexuals. And so I believe that the trans women will very soon be the most masculine force in the Democratic Party. Because who are you?
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
I see several of you nodding. Who do you think is going to be the most masculine force in the Democratic Party? The beta males or the trans women? I think the trans women are probably going to kind of take over that. And you wonder how all of this broke out in the election. President Trump was able to overcome a gender gap with women by having a larger gender gap with men.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
And so the coalition on the Republican side was, like, you know, the non-self-loathing males. And of any color, stripe, creed, I mean, we had, like, the cool black guys and the cool Latino guys. We got the gay men pretty much with us for the most part. And then you added... It really put it to, I think women, you could divide into like desirable women and undesirable women.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
And the Democrats killed us with undesirable women. If no one, I mean, they struggled. But if you were like, cool. And a woman, you looked around and you're like, well, who do I want to hang out with? Like the cool alpha males and the cool black guys and the gay men? Or the pitbull adopting lesbians and the transsexuals? And we got the desirable women and I would like to keep them.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
And when we think about the core covenant President Trump has to rescue this economy from the wilderness that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris sent us out to, I am proud that we have someone who is willing to do what is necessary to reset what was a deeply unfair international economic order. And I learned in Congress in some pretty tense moments that leverage is really only about two things.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
I would like to know where JD Vance gets his eyelashes done. That is a question that needs to be answered. No, I... Look, um... For our party to succeed, you can't out-kick your coverage. I think that there are moments where we can go beyond our mandate. I don't think President Trump has done that at all, and I think that's why he's been so successful thus far.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
The other thing we've got to do is deal with this judiciary. You have to deal with that because if you allow a single judge in Maryland to conduct foreign policy or gender policy or like we have judges now telling the Department of Health and Human Services that they have to put back up websites about how to do gender blockers. That is not something that a judge should do.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
The concepts of judicial review did not imagine a federal judiciary of hundreds of tyrants all over the country capable of binding all of us in the absence of an election. That is crazy. And I think Congress could do a lot more to attack that problem. But ultimately, you know what it's going to come down to?
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
And I asked myself this question when President Trump and I were talking about me serving in the administration. Are you going to be willing to defy a court order if necessary? If you get to a point where it's somebody's life or limb on the border or what some woketopian judge in the District of Columbia says, are you willing to do the right thing?
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
Are you going to allow these people to conduct the foreign affairs of the United States? And we all know how this ends. It's illustrated by a conversation I had with Elon Musk during the transition at Mar-a-Lago. Elon said, Matt, all I need are everyone's passwords. And I said, well... He was obsessed about the passwords for like two months. All I need is the passwords. I said, well, Elon...
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
They're in a lot of places, but why do you need the passwords? He says, well, if I have the passwords, then we will not be inhumane. We will not break any laws. If we have to pay people out, you know, we will, but they will not be able to come to work anymore and do harm to the country.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
I said, well, I said, what's going to happen when you do that is that these federal laws and these employment contracts and a judge is going to issue an order that you cannot do that anymore. And he says, and then what will happen? I said, well, then if people don't enforce the order, the federal marshals will show up. And he said, and who do they work for?
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
I said, well, they work for the attorney general. And he said, and then I will make you the attorney general. And then the idea was born.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
how much pain you're willing to endure, and how much you're willing to dish out. And I think the old Republican Party just wanted to endure pain, and I think the MAGA movement actually wants to dish a little bit out every once in a while.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
I heard we're not going back.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
That's what I was told.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
I'm exaggerating, but right, Matt, it would be... What, are we going to have 20 million trials for these people who got in the country? What due process did you get if your job was taken, if your family member was harmed, if your community was changed?
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
Well, I don't think he has one.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
Look, the court survives based on the veneer of its legitimacy. And when it does violence to its own legitimacy, that is self-harm that the court is doing to itself. That is not President Trump's fault. That is the court's fault.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
It's just so fantastical, their belief that these people who are a federal district court judge that nobody voted for, that no one has ever heard of, can define when America is being invaded. That is something that the president decides. And you may not like the president. We've had presidents I haven't liked. But that is solely within their purview.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
And so when you've got the liberal judges engaged in the way they are, it's like trying to have a fair debate
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
football competition when the referee is wearing the jersey of the other team it is it is a futile exercise and so ultimately i do believe that there will there will come that there will be a standoff oh yeah and so let's just play this out though trump defies it yeah what then happens well then they will they will uh issue an order to the marshals to effectuate some enforcement of an injunction.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
And those marshals work for the attorney general and ought to be told to stand down.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
We'll have a whole other impeachment, but I almost missed those. I really missed the impeachments. I don't know about anyone else.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
Sure, I don't know that we stopped the deportation while that's occurring, but I can't think of more advantageous high ground to fight on than Democrats wanting to re-import an MS-13 member from El Salvador who is a Salvadorian national. I love El Salvador. I spend a ton of time there. I'm friends with the president. I think he's one of the greatest leaders in the Western world.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
The fact that the Democrats' cause du jour is to reimport Kilmar Garcia is like my favorite thing. I will do anything to help the Democrats keep Kilmar Garcia in the A block of every news story.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
The change in culture. We saw, and Trump won. Okay, we spent every day waking up with everyone trying to tell us we were a bunch of Russian agents. I was Putin's lawyer. Trump was Putin's puppet. We won the election because Vladimir Putin told everybody to not vote for Hillary Clinton. And we couldn't collude with Vladimir Putin.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
By the way, MS-13 members have children too. You guys knew that, right? They didn't sterilize them on the way into MS-13. They have children. And that does not mean that you would not want to return that person back to their home country. And I think our friend Stephen Miller put it best.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
The arrogance of any system in the United States, be it a court or the State Department, to tell El Salvador what they have to do with their own gang member... is just astonishing to me. They know what to do with gang members in El Salvador. El Salvador used to be the murder capital of the world.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
They locked up over 50,000 gang members, and now it is safer to walk the streets of San Salvador than it is to walk the streets of Los Angeles or San Diego.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
Well, it's the ascent of J.D. Vance. Look, being Donald Trump's vice president is not an easy job. When you are close to the flame, President Trump can seek your advice, your deployment to a particular challenge, your buddy time. He wants to give relationship advice a lot, I've noticed. And J.D. Vance has been a stalwart in that White House. He has been a focused policy expert.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
He has been a brilliant communicator. President Trump always says, Matt, he's the greatest political athlete of all time. Well, maybe other than me. But I think that that tells us that we're building to something. Because I did wonder what it would be like after we won the last Trump election, maybe.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
And there weren't the MAGA rallies that gave us kind of a sense of community that brought us together. And President Trump's campaign moments weren't the unifying vision and direction that any successful movement needs. And to see someone... right there, ready to take the mantle, ready to ensure that all this work we're doing is not going to just run through the hourglass like sand.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
We could barely collude with ourselves to put on the next Trump rally during that just electric and exciting campaign that we were a part of. And so there was an effort to delegitimize. And I think that was upsetting and frustrating. And also in Congress, you had people like Paul Ryan actively working to derail the Trump administration. And those people had power.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
It gives me hope that it's all been worth it, that going through the snow in Iowa at negative 20 degrees, which, by the way, after bringing my Southern California wife to Iowa at negative 20 was when I needed the relationship advice from President Trump.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
But all of that, going to the swing states and enduring the indictments, the prosecutions, the investigations, we are actually the party that wants this country to be better for everyone, and not just our own team. And I really, really mean that. I sincerely believe that the left seeks... their advancement at our detriment and that we don't feel the same way.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
We actually don't have a vision for the country that just means we win and they lose, that the economy is only better for us, that the dollar is only stronger for us. And I think that that can be something that pulls us together. One final story from when we were out there in Iowa and I was dragging myself in from waving the sign out in the snow.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
And there was this barista, and she runs up to me and says, Congressman Gates, can I get a picture? My boyfriend is not working, and I have to send him a picture because he'll be so mad he didn't meet you. He's a big fan of yours. I said, sure, sure. Will you vote for President Trump in the caucuses? Will you caucus for him? And she said, oh, yeah, no, I'll do that.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
I said, well, if we send this picture to your boyfriend, can you make sure he gets out there and caucuses for President Trump, too? And she said, Matt, I'm so for President Trump, I'm not only going to get my boyfriend to caucus for him, I'm going to get all of my ex-boyfriends to caucus for him, too. And so it's with the spirit of that barista that we take on the challenge ahead of us.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
Question one, why is Fauci not in jail? Exactly.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan would have been just fine. if we'd have found out that Trump did something illegal and we'd have ended up with President Mike Pence. But now, now you have a cabinet that is actually for the president, and that's something. That's pretty exciting. We were dealing with Jeff Sessions, who was off making excuses for Hillary Clinton.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
Oh, I think that that's one of many ways. I think that also having a muscular view of Article 2 would give the court a pretty clear path to say that it is not for a district court judge with a law clerk, and a secretary to determine what constitutes an invasion. It is indeed for a president and a national security team to make that calculus.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
But yes, the court's inherent equity power is one that is less frequently used by appellate courts, probably... Yeah, I mean, a court can always sort of say, well, we have this inherent power to create an equitable outcome here. And it does trace back to the British common law. It's not something you'll find in a federal statute. And it is used in courts every day to shape a particular remedy or
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
or at times if someone has unclean hands and is seeking redress in a way, the court's equitable powers can be deployed. But here, I think that it's really who you want to run in the country. Do you want a web of judges that nobody votes for, or do you want the president?
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
And we will have presidents we like and don't like, but I think that any result that is not a vindication of Trump's powers here is a degradation of the democracy. And... How many years did we all have to listen to the Democrats telling us we were a threat to democracy?
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
We were a threat to democracy until the voters in our republic actually elected Donald Trump, and now you don't hear that anymore. It's how the judges have to come in and stop the will of the voters from being executed, and it's revealing of the hypocrisy.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
We were dealing with people in high leadership positions at the FBI and CIA who were trying to tee up the president for some sort of impeachment or prosecution all along the way. And so I think that unified sense of purpose is important. And within the culture, rather than delegitimizing, there's kind of a curiosity about all of us now.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
It might be some of you.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
But the point being... The SEAL Team 3 guy, maybe.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
Yeah, I mean, these are the employees that actually run the government. And it's another key difference between Trump 1 and Trump 2. In Trump 1... At any given time, we had about a third of the cabinet working against the president and his initiatives, and we had to be fighting them and keeping them at bay and trying to box them in.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
I saw a little bit of it the other day when our friend Steve Hilton was out on Skid Row talking politics with people who had clearly not done all of their homework throughout life, but who are humans nonetheless, and who probably, even if their lives are in shambles, want their life to be better. And the breakthroughs and the curiosity is something that we have to leverage.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
Well, now you have a totally aligned, productive, effective cabinet. And so Charlie and I are out there sourcing people for deputy secretary positions, director positions, administrative positions.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
for this reason. And we're still doing it. I mean, we're still placing people in the government and there's a few that still need to get weeded out too. But that is the way to have a vertically integrated movement where in the presidencies to come in four and eight and 12 years, we are credentialing people who see the world we do. And that is something that under the
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
Bush rule of conservatism, you did not get. You got a neoconservative, neoliberal credentialing system, not a populist, nationalist credentialing system. And our ability to generate that now is entirely dependent on the inspiration drawn from Turning Point.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
Yeah, after being in the state legislature for six years and Congress for eight years, I get this question a lot. When are you going back in? And getting out of government after 14 years and going immediately back in is sort of like... being told you're let out of prison and punching a guard on the way out. But I know this about how President Trump operates and really how the government operates.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
There are line changes, much like in a hockey contest. And there are people who are doing great work now who we're supporting and helping to find other good folks. who will, for family reasons or personal reasons or other aspirations, depart government service. And what Charlie and I know is anytime, anywhere, President Trump calls, we'll show up and do any job he asks.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
I'll let you take the first hack at it, Charlie.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
Charlie, and it's also, and I'm not just saying this because I'm here, because I say it everywhere, and if you follow me on Twitter, you see I say it all the time. The generational shift that we have seen and the fact that our politics is no longer so racialized.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
They won't because there's two problems.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
There's a statute of limitations problem.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
The other is that they did it all in D.C. And, I mean, a Washington, D.C. jury is a very difficult place to make an argument against the people who hold these political views and use the power in the way that they do. And so that realism is imposed upon prosecutorial decisions. But look, not all consequences have to be criminal.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
I'm grateful that Kash Patel took those FBI agents who were kneeling after George Floyd's death and sent them to Fairbanks, Alaska or Thule, Greenland or wherever he sent them. And I think that there are consequences being felt that are not always broadcast. There are a few that... I would probably like to have broadcasts and I'd probably be doing a little bit of that.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
But hopefully there's some on the horizon and it does take a little time.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
is deeply pleasant to me it it was just all about race before and now we are building a multi-racial multi-ethnic working class movement of people and it is inviting and warm and that's why we are rising but it's also with with young people if you would i'm i'm gonna be 43 years old pretty soon and if you'd have told me when i was under the age of 30 that a U.S.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
Actually, if this lasts longer than two questions, it's legally an insurrection.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
I think you actually have to win people who are not activated politically now. The math problem in a state where President Trump got 42% of the vote is a very real one. But what I've kind of noticed about this place, spending a little more time here, is that it's hard to get people riled up about politics on our side when things are so wonderful.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
It's like, oh, my God, I hate that the school wants one of the kids to have a litter box, but let's go surfing. It's 74 and sunny. And the other side are in this self-loathing, you know, they didn't get invited to the prom, and they've got all their personal problems, so they can just pour into politics. And I don't know how you break that.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
I think that you have to have a campaign of joy that brings people together. No, I think you do. I think in a state like this, in a state like this, you've got to have something that's fun or people will not do it because there's a lot of fun things to do in this state. Right, Steve Hilton? Yeah, and the other thing is you have to hope Kamala Harris runs.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
You have to hope Kamala Harris runs for governor. And then you can just go to the people of California and say, she doesn't even want to be your governor. You want to be Kamala Harris's safety school? You want to be Kamala Harris's side piece? You want to be president? And so if you convince people they're better than being her reject option, then maybe lightning can strike here.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
Well, yeah, no, I believe that for the same reason you don't let the referee bet on the game, members of Congress should not be allowed to trade individual stocks. Yes. And that is one way. Another way is to, if you're a member of Congress, you have a remarkable ability to get jobs for your ne'er-do-well family members who otherwise can't do anything.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
The number of members of Congress who have children or spouses who are registered lobbyists is astonishing to me. And it is bipartisan. The former Republican chairman of the Intelligence Committee, Richard Burr's wife and son were both lobbyists.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
Could you imagine how your interests would fare if on the other side, the chairman of the Intelligence Committee's wife and son was being paid to advocate against you? And so it is through the money laundering of fake no-show jobs, kind of an old mob tactic, and then the inside information that people get.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
I would suggest that you follow Quiver Quantitative on X because it shows the stock trades people make and then the committees they serve on. It's like, oh, well, this agriculture technology was just required by the EPA and you sit on the Environment Committee and you bought the stock that makes that tech and it just went up 8,000%.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
It happens so frequently and the reason it is allowed is because it happens on both sides. And if we really want to achieve Charlie's vision and all of your vision to save the country... We cannot tolerate that on our side either.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
president could count as their key constituency, their number one approval demographic, voters under the age of 30, I would have told you that was crazy. When I was a young man in the state legislature in Florida, our political strategy to deal with young voters was to try to get them to not vote.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
Yeah, that was one of the things that we sort of demanded from McCarthy's scalp was a vote on term limits. And we knew we would lose that vote, but we thought it would be revealing to people. who cared about it and saw that Republicans were blocking it. Term limits failed in the vote of its first committee of reference upon which I served.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
The person who I campaigned, two people who I campaigned very hard for and consider otherwise good members of Congress, killed the bill. Harriet Hageman, who defeated Liz Cheney in Wyoming, voted against term limits. And the member of Congress for the district you're currently sitting in, Daryl Issa, voted against term limits.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
I really appreciate the work you do. We wouldn't have won the election without Turning Point. And, look, we've got a lot more of them to win. And... People had to sit in these chairs before you when every polling presentation and every consultant was saying, we hope we can just get this thing within single digits. We hope we don't lose this vote by 25 or 35 points.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
And so, you know, the work we get to do is the fun stuff. Now we've got the wind at our back, the turning point has happened, and we have got to get the cement to harden around a generation that can save this country. So I appreciate you all being a part of it.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
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The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
It was it was consultants would come in and say, well, you know, if you put 84 things on the ballot, maybe one of these young people that wants to show up and vote for Obama will just vote at the top, but then turn in the ballot and they won't get down to the state Senate. They won't get down to the. to the mayor or the city council or the school board.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
And that was what we thought winning looked like, discouraging young people from participating. And you know why? Because we weren't offering them that much, actually. When what the conservatives stood for
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
was more war and inviting more people across our border and selling out time and again and saying that victory was just surrender at a slower pace that was not an appealing idea to young voters but i think we had two conflating facts one you had the other side trying to tell them that if they were uh you know they were either an oppressor or oppressed and that's actually offensive to almost anyone you say it to
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
And that combined with the crazy gender theory and the identity politics gave us an opportunity and we seized that opportunity because we were fun and we were energetic. If you went to a young Republican meeting back when I was in my 20s, it was boring and everybody laughed. was like wearing name tags and a clip-on tie. And you go to these turning point rallies, and it is the place to be.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
It is awesome. It is cool. I've had so many parents and grandparents come up to me and say that the person in their life who they cared about went to a turning point rally with friends and is now picking up a clipboard, downloading an app, knocking on doors, making phone calls, and driving this victory for a generation.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
We all think about it in our own lives, you know, what it meant to graduate and walk across the graduation stage with your loved ones there, or going to prom and getting those prom pictures that you might still flip through, or having... the football game where the stands are full and you've had a great athletic achievement, or you're in ROTC and every morning you got out there at 6 a.m.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
and you proved to the United States Military Academy or to the Naval Academy that you belonged because you showed that group dedication, they were robbed of leadership opportunities, they were robbed of social opportunities, academic opportunities, and it built resentment. And by the way, how could it not build that resentment? And
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
When I used to be a young person, there was a resistance to the Republicans because the Republicans were always trying to stop you from doing stuff. You couldn't look at this book. You couldn't read that opinion. There was a sense that the moral majority was limiting of the kind of adolescent experience. And now the political left is the...
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
movement that embraces the cancel culture and the censorship and the idea that certain ideas are so dangerous that we cannot even confront them or encounter them or deal with them. That is nonsense. We have a generation... We have the most socially interconnected generation in all of human history. They want to engage. They want to talk.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
They want to show up by the thousands like they just did in San Diego and actually... see what ideas rise to the surface because of their merit, not because some genderless, purple-haired, woke-topian told you so.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks. I want to thank Charlie. He's an incredible guy. His spirit, his love of this country. He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
I didn't know there were this many conservatives in California. You got all of them, Charlie. I do the Matt Gaetz Show on One America News, and my producer called me and said, Matt, if you show up at the Dell Coronado tonight, you can be on the best podcast around. And I just assumed it would be with Gavin Newsom. And it's the Charlie Kirk Show.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
And I think we're going to... I think we're going to hold those voters because it wasn't just colleges and universities. Those very same young people would graduate colleges and universities and show up at a corporate work environment that was forcing DEI training on them.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
Some went on to the military, where you won't believe this, but in the military, a microaggression was deemed, utilizing the deeply offensive terms, mom and dad. That if you use the term mom or dad, that might be a microaggression against someone who didn't have a mom and a dad. And so you should only use parent.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
And I'm just kind of wondering if the CCP or the Iranians or the Russians are sitting around. They're trying to get more macroaggressions out of their military. And we're trying to drive the microaggressions out of ours under that circumstance. And so I think that the rejection of that was driven by this generation, and the maintenance of our control of these institutions kind of relies on them.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
And that's why we have to make sure that they're not just turned ideologically, but that they're up for it, which is a key feature of what Turning Point does. Look, we were just hoping when Turning Point was at the crescendo that we would be able to play even ball. We would hold serve with young people.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
We could maybe get a diminution in the delta of votes such that the boomers would save us forever. And the reality is that...
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
you know now with this being a powerhouse they have to go from voters to people who can activate other key constituencies and talk to their neighbors and get that even the generation that follows gen alpha engaged in those very initiatives and the the durability of it is what we must nurture if we throw our hands up in the air and say mission accomplished this is all done it can be lost because that's what the left did by the way
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
They became the party that was opposed to curiosity, that was opposed to intellectualism just generally, and embraced this monolith. And we cannot do that. We cannot do that. And this was a constant criticism I had of the Congress in which I served. There was such a desire to just be there and be on the team together.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
that so much of the necessary work was not being accomplished, particularly on the matter of spending. And if you don't believe me, look at the work of Elon Musk and Doge. What they have done has not only been inspirational... It has been revealing. It has been revealing about what you get when you govern by continuing resolution and omnibus spending bill.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Happens in a Trump/SCOTUS Showdown? ft. Matt Gaetz
It is true that the closest thing to everlasting life is a government program because once they are baked in, they are infrequently reviewed for their efficacy and for their results. And I am grateful that that happened, but I think that has to be a guiding light for what we demand of public servants going forward, not a solution unto itself.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Sad, Disinvited RINOS + Elon & Vance + Maine Defies Trump
Yeah, it's a tricky business, right? Because if you have to go after all these malefactors, then you have to look in a certain sense like you're going after your political enemies because your political enemies did commit serious wrongdoings of lawfare. So how do you deal with that? You have to both be just and appear to be just.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Sad, Disinvited RINOS + Elon & Vance + Maine Defies Trump
And I think in one sense, part of what the Trump administration's doing, and I think you're seeing Pam Bondi do, I think you'll see Kash Patel do this, Emile Bove, who's working for Pam Bondi in the DOJ, I think there's a sort of politics of truth where they're going to be very honest, transparent, and forthcoming.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Sad, Disinvited RINOS + Elon & Vance + Maine Defies Trump
But I also think that there has to be a kind of prosecutorial plan laid out about both prosecuting a certain kind of crime as a kind of thematic headliner, but also providing a kind of way out of lawfare, even for our political opponents.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Sad, Disinvited RINOS + Elon & Vance + Maine Defies Trump
Yeah, so I think a headliner is perjury. One of the things that lawfare needs in order to conspire and malign and attack and slander and destroy one's political opponents using legal mechanisms is sworn testimony. You have to be deposed under oath. You have to go before Congress under oath. You have to go into court under oath. You have to go before FISA courts under oath. And perjury is a crime.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Sad, Disinvited RINOS + Elon & Vance + Maine Defies Trump
Section 18 of the Federal Code, perjury is a crime of, you know, one to five years. And if you lie to a FISA court, if you perjure yourself there, it's 5 to 10. So it's a major issue if you wind up prosecuting it because it actually squeezes off the power of lawfare conspiracies. But it also has a kind of...
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Sad, Disinvited RINOS + Elon & Vance + Maine Defies Trump
powerful defense against the dangers of lawfare generally, which is you're basically trying to prosecute truth-telling, right? Or lying. Don't lie. We are a truthful political body. We are a people that is candid. We are a republic of self-governance. People have to do what they say and say what they do and do it in good faith.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Sad, Disinvited RINOS + Elon & Vance + Maine Defies Trump
That's in the language of the oath of the president and the vice president. Pam Bondi mentioned it in her hearings. This is what they have to rekindle. And so if you go after perjury, what you're basically saying is, yeah, we're going to go after some of our political opponents who perjured themselves and lied in various ways to malign their political enemies.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Sad, Disinvited RINOS + Elon & Vance + Maine Defies Trump
But the purpose of this is so that we all go back to not conspiring against one another to slander and gin up faux legal conspiracies of lawfare and attack against our political opponents.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Sad, Disinvited RINOS + Elon & Vance + Maine Defies Trump
So Bondi has basically put a memo out in response to Trump's executive order ending weaponization, telling DOJ, we are going to go after every instance of this and also every instance of its appearance, because that's part of what you have to do. You have to both be just and look just and keep good faith. And so what I think...
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Sad, Disinvited RINOS + Elon & Vance + Maine Defies Trump
the weaponization executive order is going to do is basically wipe the slate clean. And I think they chose a really good version of this with Eric Adams, the mayor of New York, because if you want to look like you're trying to be nonpartisan and ending lawfare, what better way to do it than to say, hey,
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Sad, Disinvited RINOS + Elon & Vance + Maine Defies Trump
The previous administration went after one of their own, a Democrat, because he turned tail on their political program of bad immigration policy. He turned his back on that. So he's not helping some Trump supporter in some high-profile way. He's actually helping a Democrat mayor who's had a very adversarial attitude towards the Trump administration.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Sad, Disinvited RINOS + Elon & Vance + Maine Defies Trump
So I thought that choice in following out this executive order was a really smart one because it sends the signal, look, we're not just trying to help our friends. We're trying to help everyone get out from under lawfare.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Sad, Disinvited RINOS + Elon & Vance + Maine Defies Trump
And so I think it's a really great way to move forward, but it's both dealing with the perjury question, I think is a separate one, but also dealing with the weaponizations head on. And Bondi's got tons of things to do on every level, but I do think there's a headliner issue too.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Sad, Disinvited RINOS + Elon & Vance + Maine Defies Trump
it's very dangerous to do it, right? That's part of the problem. And so that's one of the reasons why, uh, I think some of the things I've seen so far are to actually release someone from lawfare attacks like Eric Adams. And I think that's right. Uh, but when you're dealing with that, in one sense, Emil Bove has already handled, uh, the question.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Sad, Disinvited RINOS + Elon & Vance + Maine Defies Trump
He dismissed them and said, you know, or the prosecutors at SDNY. But you're talking about the actual Democrat malefactors who are not refusing to deal with this issue, but who actually created the problem. Insofar as that's an issue, I think the best way is indirectly. You find the best cases, right, that will deal with the problem.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Sad, Disinvited RINOS + Elon & Vance + Maine Defies Trump
And so what Pambandi's done with Letitia James is they're actually not going after lawfare. They're going after their refusal to follow immigration law. So that's a great way to deal with that indirectly. But insofar as you have to get closer to the problem of lawfare, another indirect way to deal with it is perjury. Because you're not saying, hey, I don't like that you played politics.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Sad, Disinvited RINOS + Elon & Vance + Maine Defies Trump
You're saying, I don't like that you broke the law. But it turns out perjury is the number one way people commit crimes in the service of lawfare. I do think, by the way, at the end of this, because this is so dangerous and difficult, there are other ethics. Like, for instance... You should pick cases that are very clearly proven without their testimony. Like we've got you here dead to rights.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Sad, Disinvited RINOS + Elon & Vance + Maine Defies Trump
This is a perjurous thing you did. So once that's established, then you encourage the person to confess their perjury. And if they do come forward with their plans, with their perjurous conspiracies, then you say, okay, now we offer clemency. Now we're going to commute sentences. Now we're going to bring you back.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Sad, Disinvited RINOS + Elon & Vance + Maine Defies Trump
Because what you're trying to get to at the end isn't, ha ha, I've seen all my political enemies be destroyed. What you're actually trying to get to is a golden age of justice and peace and good faith where people tell each other the truth, even when they're political enemies. And I know that's a...
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Sad, Disinvited RINOS + Elon & Vance + Maine Defies Trump
a Pollyannish impossibility at the end of the day, but we can tell the difference between a sort of normal version of an imperfect world and the current lawfare absolute lying through their eyeteeths all the time and perjuring themselves. I mean, we have people, officials, who say, oh, you know, what else was I supposed to do besides perjure myself?
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Sad, Disinvited RINOS + Elon & Vance + Maine Defies Trump
Like, well, not perjure yourself is the answer because we have to have a politics of truth and good faith.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Sad, Disinvited RINOS + Elon & Vance + Maine Defies Trump
I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Ask Charlie Anything 210: Deport Fauci? Vivek Leaving DOGE? Revive the SAVE Act?
Hey, Charlie, thanks for having me. I live in the state of North Carolina. I was born in Arizona, but I live here now. And my state is suing Trump for the birthright citizenship executive order. Is there anything we can do to express our frustration with that lawsuit to our state?
The Charlie Kirk Show
Ask Charlie Anything 210: Deport Fauci? Vivek Leaving DOGE? Revive the SAVE Act?
Yes, I live in North Carolina.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Ask Charlie Anything 210: Deport Fauci? Vivek Leaving DOGE? Revive the SAVE Act?
I'm not sure if he's a Democrat. I know we have a Democrat governor, Mark Robinson, lost here, but I'm not sure about the attorney general.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Ask Charlie Anything 210: Deport Fauci? Vivek Leaving DOGE? Revive the SAVE Act?
They are suing for sure. I looked it up just to make sure when I saw the news that states were suing and that mine was included.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Ask Charlie Anything 210: Deport Fauci? Vivek Leaving DOGE? Revive the SAVE Act?
Yeah, I would say that it is a problem here. I was born in Arizona. I just moved here at the end of 2023. But I would say yes, because of the CBP one app where people were getting flights, you know, some of them did come here. So.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Ask Charlie Anything 210: Deport Fauci? Vivek Leaving DOGE? Revive the SAVE Act?
Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
I don't need to read it. Any study that claims to show that a man has a woman's brain is completely bogus. I don't care if this study was funded with $50 million. They took 70 years. They had 10,000 people. It doesn't matter because what's the definition of a man's brain? It is the brain that is inside the head of a man. That is, by definition, a man's brain.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
I think it's worse than that. I think it was a deliberate choice, deliberate. It was a surrender. It was a deliberate, it was a waving the white flag. And so to answer your question and to bring it to kind of the point of this great event that I think, I mean, there are a lot of answers to the question of how it got this deep in our institutions.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
But to me, the number one answer is that there is one institution that is supposed to be there as the vanguard against this kind of evil. And that institution refused to do its job, and that is the church. Now, I can, again, think back to 2016, 2017, 2020, 2021.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
being out there kind of in the field on this issue, fighting this issue out, whether it's going to school board meetings or holding rallies or doing anything. For me, it's making a movie, just using whatever resources are at my disposal to fight back. And I would look to the left of me and look to the right of me.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
And what I noticed is that I noticed what was missing, which is that there were not a lot of Christian leaders standing there beside me. If I was more likely to look over to my side and see a liberal feminist standing with me on this issue than a Christian pastor.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
And not only that, but it was in fact worse that very often if a Christian pastor were to say anything to me or about me in relation to this issue, it was to condemn me for being too rude, for being too mean about you know, they didn't like the way that I approached it. And my answer to them was always, okay, you don't like my approach. What's your alternative? Because your approach is nothing.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
Your approach is to say nothing at all. And I agree with something you said, Charlie, earlier about You know, we talk about the woke churches that have the rainbow flags and everything outside, and that's a big problem. That is an issue. That's not the biggest problem. Like, those churches, they're not churches. They don't count. I don't even... That's not real.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
You know, if you... If you have a rainbow in your church, it better be a part of some art display that references Noah's Ark. Um... Because the rainbow flag is anathema. It is heresy. And any church that flies it is not a church. It is, you know, this is a, it is a, or I should say it's a church, but not for the Christian religion. For the LGBT cult is what it is. So there's that.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
So there's those kinds of churches, and that's not real. Those are not real Christian churches. The bigger problem has been for a long time the kind of milquetoast, lukewarm, I don't really want to get involved. And so you sit in these churches, and you're not going to hear anything about
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
necessarily objectionable you're not going to hear anything said that's wrong everything said is maybe true but it's what's not being said and you know to reference something that c.s lewis actually talked about i think in uh in in screw tape letters he talks about it in multiple works of his how you know, we're on a spiritual battleground. We're on a spiritual battlefield.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
And when you go to church, you've got your, these are your soldiers, right, who are coming in after being out on the battlefield for the last six days, and they're bruised, and they're broken, and they're beaten. And this is where they're supposed to hear their marching orders. This is like, let's regroup. Let's talk about our battle plan, okay?
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
That's what it should feel like when you're in church. And And so often, at least in my experience, and I've been going to church for 38 years, so often it doesn't feel like that. It feels like maybe a meeting with the HR representative at a Fortune 500 company or like I'm in middle school talking to my guidance counselor again. It doesn't feel like this is someone, the pastor saying,
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
And there are exceptions to this, but so often it doesn't feel like the pastor is even living in the same reality as the rest of us.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
So to go back to the trans thing, this was going on for years. And I would hear, I'm not a pastor, I'm not a church leader, but I would hear from these parents whose kids are being... kidnapped by this ideology as kids are being, their minds are being stolen by this. I've heard the most, I know you have too, Charlie.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
I've heard the most gut wrenching stories from parents who have lost their kids spiritually, mentally, and sometimes physically. I mean, their kids fall victim to this. And two or three years later, their kids are gone. They're dead because this, this, this, this virus, this mental virus infected their minds and killed them. And
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
You have these parents that are struggling with this for years and years, and so many of them are going to churches and never once hearing it even referenced. It's like it doesn't exist. And so I'm sitting in these churches, and I'm thinking, do you not realize what's going on out there? Do you not understand what these people, what us, what we're going through, what actually matters?
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
I mean, now I'm just ranting. I could continue. It's great. Keep going. I'll just say one thing. One of the most offensive, just in this vein here, one of them, and I've told this story before, one of the most offensive sermons I ever heard was years ago from a pastor, probably a decent guy, but the sermon was about Toy Story, the movie Toy Story, if you guys are familiar.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
And it was all about how, and it was a long sermon too. It was way too long. And it went on and on and on about the movie Toy Story and all the lessons we can learn from Toy Story. Because, you know, there are songs in Toy Story about how we should be friends.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
And so this was kind of a sermon about the value of friendship and how Buzz Lightyear and Woody, you know, they didn't like each other at first, but then they learned how to be friends by the end of it. And I'm sitting there, and I was a young parent at the time, two or three kids, and thinking about all the things that I, and I'm very familiar with Toy Story.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
I like the movie, actually, as far as kids' movies go. But of all the things that I am worried about, you know, all the things that matter to me as a father, as a man, as an American, and you're sitting there talking about Toy Story. I mean, this is the kind of talk that I would expect a kindergarten teacher to give to their students when they're sitting on an alphabet rug drinking apple juice.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
And it's that, you know. And that's one of the worst that I've heard, so it's not often that bad. It's not the wokeness. It's that. It's just, it's nothing. That's nothing.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
I appreciate that. And I think that's, I mean, look, it's, I want to say a lot of people have been in the fight from the beginning. So it hasn't been a lot, but there's certainly been a lot more than just me. The one thing I will say is you said we were in the ideological minority from the beginning.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
Well, I'll start by saying what even the left would say, but they don't mean it, which is the way you respond to that is by loving your daughter. You love her. You never stop loving your child. But what that means is that you will never surrender her to this madness. You will just never do it. I've said before, and I've gotten in trouble with Media Matters or whatever for saying it.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
I'll say it again. I would rather die than have any of my children die. succumb to the trans cult. I would rather be dead than that. I will do anything to stop that from happening. And so that's what you do as a parent. You never give in to it. They're going to they're going to say they hate you. They're going to scream at you. They're going to want to lock themselves in a room.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
That's all part of the cult programming. And you got to go through that, but you never give into it. You never, you never give into the lie that, that the fact that you've made your daughter and your child upset means that you don't love them or you're not loving them the right way. No, in this case, the fact that they're upset means that you are loving them.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
It means that this is exactly how you should be responding. And, um, On a more practical level, by the way, if your child is actually struggling with this, again, they're going to hate you for this, and that's fine. But you've got to look at what their influences are.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
And most likely, if you've got a 13-year-old daughter or son who's experimenting now with this idea that he's trapped in the wrong body, almost certainly he's got the smartphone and he's on social media. Take the phone away, okay? It's not just, oh, we're going to limit the amount of time you spend on it. Take it away. I got six kids. None of my kids have this technology. We have one.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
My wife and I have phones. We have one other screen in the house. It is our family TV that's in a public area in the house. There's no doors. We don't have any screens for kids in a room where a door can be shut. We don't have that. So you can watch TV. We're going to know exactly what you're watching. And it's going to be in a place where we can hear it anywhere in the house where we go.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
I think we were in the minority, but not actually the ideological minority, which is what made it so frustrating early on is that, you know, I can remember going out there in like 2016, 2017 and arguing about this issue of transgenderism. And the kind of blank stares you would get from people, even though I know that most of them agree with me.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
So you can't even change the channel and try to sneak something past us. And certainly we are not giving them unfettered access to the internet. And so take that away from your child, look at who their friend groups are, and, and hopefully that will be enough. And then you might have to resort to even extreme measures or measures that might seem extreme.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
If they're in public school, you might have to think about, do we have to pull them out of school? Do we have to homeschool? It sounds crazy and unworkable. It's not, I do it. You can do it. Um, You're just doing anything that is necessary to protect them from this madness.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
You know, I'm sitting here saying a woman is a female. A man is a male. You can't cross between the two. Transgenderism is not a real thing. It's a category error. It doesn't exist. And. there weren't a lot of people cheering us on, even though I knew that most people certainly agreed with that. When we did our film, What is a Woman?
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
One thing, and Dr. Miriam Grossman is, is, uh, absolutely fantastic. And she, she's also in, in our film, what is a woman, uh, One thing I would add to that is before you also think about before you get to that point where your daughter comes to you at the age of 13 and says, I think I'm a boy. How do we avoid getting to that point? Because there's the question of what do you do when that happens?
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
And Miriam Grossman has a great lot of great advice on that. How do you how do we stop that from happening if we can? And and we've already gone over some of it. Some of it is is pretty simple, though difficult. taking away the phones, taking away these influences, but at kind of a deeper level. And you won't be able to do this perfectly, but you want your children to stay attached to you.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
And I know we use that word attached, and it sounds like I'm saying you want to be a helicopter parent. You don't want your kids to be able to, you know, function in the world. That's not what I'm saying. You want to keep that attachment, that bond with your child, so that they're orienting themselves to, Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
And we went out to the street and did our kind of man on the street interviews. This is back in 2021 that we would have been filming it in 2022. And we would stop normal people on the street, just walking by and ask them these basic questions about what is a woman? Should men be allowed in the women's restroom? Do you think it's okay to give kids...
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
the kinds of drugs that we give to sex offenders to chemically castrate them, these kinds of questions. And the vast majority of people would, didn't want to answer, or they would answer in the affirmative to allowing men in women's restrooms.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
Even though I knew I'm looking them in the eye, I know you don't actually think that there's no way you actually think that, but people were, people were afraid. And so, Uh, I said all along, our job was less convincing people. I don't think most people need to be convinced that only women can have babies. You know, that's the kind of thing that we all understand as human beings.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
I think it's less convincing people and more, uh, convincing, not convincing people of the fact of it, but convincing them that it's okay to convicting people. Thank you. And convincing them that it's okay to speak up. It's okay that you know this basic truth and to speak it and to stand by it.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
Well, I mean, it kind of depends on how far back you want to trace it. You could trace it all the way back to the Garden of Eden, I suppose, if you wanted to, the fall of man. But it... Really, what we consider, you know, the modern gender ideology, the modern transgenderism movement goes back to the mid-20th century to guys like John Money, Alfred Kinsey.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
I mean, really, John Money is kind of the father of gender ideology. And he was one of the first to get this idea. and to promote this idea that there's a distinction between sex and gender. And that was a really key move is to draw this line of delineation between your sex, what we call your biological sex, which of course is redundant. You don't need to say that. Sex is biological.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
And your gender, which is the way he looked at it. It's just how you present yourself in the world. And there's this distinction between the two. And it was very key to draw this distinction. But then what you notice as time goes on and this stuff becomes more mainstream, that this distinction between sex and gender was then collapsed. And that happened somewhat recently.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
This is something you started to notice around 2013, 14, 15. They started to collapse this distinction where now the trans activists were saying that, well, actually a quote-unquote trans woman is not just kind of performing femininity is not just identifying as a woman, but actually is a woman.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
So that there's no actual distinction, the trans activists would say, between a trans woman and a woman. They're one in the same. So they, and this is the kind of sleight of hand trick that you find with leftists generally, but in particular with trans activists, everything's a sleight of hand.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
You know, they make an argument and they'll never follow it to its logical conclusion because they can't because it's all gibberish and nonsense. And so everything they do, they're just trying to set the stage for the next thing.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
Yeah, I think, and those are your zealots, as you say. I think that they're very much in the minority. I think for most, if we ask ourselves why this idea gained the foothold in our culture that it did, it was able to do that through our institutions, through the institution of medicine, through our school system, through the so-called mental health professionals.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
And most of them, once again, didn't really believe that any of this was actually true. I mean, did they actually believe that a biological male was in any sense really a woman? No, but for them, there was a lot of money in it, a lot of money, and that's something that
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
that came on very quickly and there was just this rush, this millions and millions and millions of dollars all of a sudden in this industry of confusing children and then taking advantage of that confusion through, through these drugs. So I don't think they actually believed it, but you did have these, The true believers and for them now, they can't talk about the issue coherently.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
They even they can't really explain, as we know, they can't explain what a woman is when they say a trans woman is a woman. If you just ask them, well, what what do you mean by that? I find that to be a really powerful question in general. It's like, well, what do you get? That's your statement. That's what you're saying. That's your that's your claim. What do you mean?
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
Can you just talk about that for a little bit more? Can you give me a few sentences about that? And they can't do it. And the reason they can't do it is because it is purely a matter of faith. It's a kind of... And they don't want to say this because they want to cloak it in science. But what they actually think is that it's spiritual.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
What they actually believe, if they're willing to say it, is that when a trans woman... is a man who has the soul of a woman. That's what they believe. That's right. But they won't say that because now they've admitted that they're on religious grounds. And that's also an argument they don't want to have because then I could say, okay, let's talk about that.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
A trans woman is a man with a soul of a woman. Where did he get the soul from? I mean, where does he come from? Where's his soul from? And the answer is, Well, now we've introduced God into the equation, and that's a big problem for the trans activists, because then the question is, well, so what happened? Was there some sort of error on the celestial assembly line where God accidentally put...
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
the wrong soul into this body? Is God making mistakes? And of course, that's not a claim they want to make either.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
Yeah, I just want to add to that because I think that One of the problems, one of the ways that this Gnosticism took hold is that you had a lot of Christians who don't understand their own faith and don't know how to talk about it. And so, for example... You'll hear, and this is a quote you'll see, I've seen circulating on social media for years and years.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
And I think that it's often falsely attributed to C.S. Lewis, sometimes G.K. Chesterton. And the quote is something like, I don't have a soul. I am a soul. I have a body. That's the quote that you see sometimes. And this is not something that C.S. Lewis would never say something that stupid. Because the, and this is, you hear this from Christians sometimes, but no, that's not correct.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
It's not that you are a soul and you have a body. You are your body and your soul. There's a unity of the two. You can't separate the two. So we tend to think of it like my body is some kind of receptacle or a vehicle of you know, that my soul is just kind of driving around and pulling the levers inside my body. That's not, that's not it at all. What, what I am, what you see, my body is who I am.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
And my soul is in a, in a mysterious way, inextricably linked with my body. It's part of my, it's part of who I am. Uh, and this is one of the reasons why we can go to the trans activists and, uh, Now, they don't like to talk about souls, even though that is what they believe, as we've covered.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
What they will say, though, and this is kind of their way of saying soul, they'll say, well, sometimes you have a man that has a woman's brain. And they'll start pointing to all these studies that allegedly show that some men have the brains of women. And this is why I don't really care about studies. I'm not a big fan of studies. Most of the time, I know we want to sound like we're smart.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
And so somebody brings up a study. We want to throw another study back at them. They get in kind of a study food fight. Well, here's a study. I think, in my opinion, 95% of the time when someone brings up a study, they say, well, haven't you read this study? I say, no, I haven't read it. I know based on what you just said that it's totally bogus. I don't even need to read it.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Man Who Stopped the Trans Juggernaut: Live with Matt Walsh at the Pastors Summit
Great to be here. Thank you. I heard you when I was backstage, you called me disagreeable. And I just I just want to say I disagree with that. So that's my dad joke to start.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
And if you get energetic candidates with strong capabilities and a compelling message, some of those folks might find something else to do in their waning moments.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
Thanks for taking Jimbo Fisher off our hands.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
If you want Mike Nervell, we can work something out.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
Sophia, if that's an issue, we're going to call you to resolve the entire matter. So I'm going to need to make yourself available. But no, the national emergency in that case is not going to stop the transfer of power. You did enough. We all did enough. And it's going to be real. You don't have to worry about that. We got plenty. Start worrying about the midterms right now, Sophia.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
But you don't have to worry about this last election. You got that W already secured. And congratulations on it.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
Yeah, I would love if you replaced me in Congress. That's exactly my view of the subject. And a lot of groups have to do it because it is what is required by the federal campaign finance laws. But the core philosophy of that infrastructure is really just money laundering. It's getting money that otherwise wouldn't be appropriate for elections into the electioneering sphere.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
And everybody knows it, and both sides participate in it. And the question I want you to ask yourself is, Would you be willing to cross the aisle and work with Democrats who you might otherwise really, really have negative views of to accomplish those objectives? Because I have been willing.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
I've worked with AOC and Ro Khanna and Ilhan Omar because while they disagree with me on a wide scope of issues, they actually agree that you shouldn't have this money in politics. Now, they tend to hold that view because they think they can beat us at that game.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
But I think if this is truly a contest of ideas and who can ignite the actual people of this country to engage politically, we'll win every time. We'll smoke them. And so I'd rather join in concert. to ultimately get rid of the entities that are often in control no matter which side wins elections.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
That's what's so frustrating to me when the power changes and it feels like the agenda doesn't even change because both sides are working for the same special interests. The only way we break that is to totally change our campaign finance system, and I will work with anyone to do it.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
Something that's never happened before. For eight years in Congress, I tried to break a system where there is rhythmically a December omnibus spending bill, usually thousands of pages, spending money we don't have, borrowing money from one country to go send it to another country as if somehow that makes us more powerful, and never... individually scrutinizing anything in the budget.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
You all are just like a blur.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
is there any hope for California well didn't you see how the trajectory moved this last election were you watching that Charlie are you a California resident now I'm a Florida man I will live and die as a Florida man there's No other identity I will hold. But did you watch that? Everything moved to the right.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
I wonder when the people of California will kind of wake up to this. Because how do you go from the most temperate climate in the hemisphere, boundless natural resources... some of the most intelligent, creative class people in the world assembling there, and then you let it all become like a homeless encampment where you treat the homeless the way we treat a bald eagle's nest.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
Like in Florida, you can't get too close to the bald eagle's nest, can't make any loud noises around it, can't really disrupt it. But like if the hobos just set up on the street corner, we would turn on the irrigation until they left. But in California... You do it the other way. And so you've got to fix that.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
There's not going to be the investment and the hope and the energy that you see in the rising places in our country and throughout the world if you have surrendered to the people that are urinating in the mailboxes. Those people can't win. We have to beat those people, I think. What do you think, Charlie?
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
Charlie was like my Sherpa, my communications director, my nightly therapist.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
There was the one time that Charlie did not allow me to get my protein shake on the way to Mar-a-Lago because Charlie's like, we have to go because Elon is there. We cannot miss our moment with Elon. And Erica like, but we really want a protein shake. Charlie, we ultimately acquiesced. And then Elon became an even bigger sponsor and supporter of Turning Point. So there you go.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
Pretty good job, Charlie.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
Well, the first will be the reconciliation bill. And when I start talking about the federal budget logistics, people's eyes start to glaze over. Explain what reconciliation is. Yes, this is almost anything. A Mother's Day resolution in the United States Senate now requires 60 votes.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
But there's a special provision of the budgeting rules that say if you're making budget policy and reconciling the budget, you only need the simple majority.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
So a lot of the things that we want to do, we're trying to shoehorn into the budget reconciliation process so that the threshold is 50 votes plus JD Vance, not having to go convince a bunch of Democrats that the largest deportation and cutting $2 trillion out of the bureaucracy is a good idea. I don't know that they'll go along with that.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
And so that reconciliation process begins immediately in January. Folks have gotta be on the ball, and if we get that successfully achieved, we'll get the tax cuts extended, we'll get some of our important immigration priorities funded, and we will really cut away at some of these agencies that do not have a constitutional basis. When people ask, How are you going to cut the budget?
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
You just have to use the Constitution and you got to start cleaving away the things that are not in the Constitution have to go to the states. And sometimes the states will succeed and sometimes they'll fail. But that is the system in this country.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
And if your elected member of Congress has concern over the efficacy of a program or the level of spending in an agency or the constitutional authority of one, and so I would dutifully vote against these things. And time and again, I thought, what can we do to break that system? Do we have to extract promises from a Speaker of the House? Do we have to fire a Speaker of the House?
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
And then we hope that people have enough sense to see what best practices are working and then to copy those through the decisions of the states and the people. That has been the path to prosperity, and it's only when we've surrendered to the behemoth bureaucracy and the omnibus spending bills and the continuing resolutions that we've seen our nation decline.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
I think that was a self-actualizing moment for you.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
Sometimes in my sleep I hear freedom at charliekirk.com.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
Notice the people from Washington. They want you to know if they're from east Washington.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
That was his way of saying we didn't have the Chaz in east Washington.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
Well, the way the Republican conference works is the speaker has a constituency of 222 members, and the speaker is there to serve that constituency.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
And when there's a weak one in the herd, as Mr. Newhouse was politically for a time because of that impeachment vote, a bunch of the other ones that one day think they might be the weak one in the herd are only going to follow the one that's the strong one that protects the weakest in the herd. Right? Does that make sense to you?
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
And so you may not like that, but that's the incentive structure where the way the speaker stays the speaker is to always make sure that the weakest in the herd are protected. We had Tony Gonzalez on the run in Texas. We had a great candidate, Brandon Herrera, running against him. Herrera raised $1 million, which is pretty good to do against an incumbent.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
And Speaker Johnson and others raised over $10 million for Tony Gonzalez. And Mr. Herrera lost that race by under 400 votes. And so there are times when the resource advantage that the establishment has becomes their cudgel against us. And that's why stuff like Turning Point, getting interconnected,
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
And yet again, rhythmically, this would occur over and over again. And for the very first time, we beat them. And the reason we beat them is because the full power of the lobby corps in Washington, D.C. is not as strong as the movement led by President Trump, animated by Turning Point, encouraged by Elon Musk, and motivated by millions of patriotic Americans on X and throughout the country.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
having Elon involved in resourcing more efforts like this, that's what's going to build us into a more comparable fighting force. And maybe we'll never have them one-to-one on the dollar spent on some of these key campaigns, but I think on some, if we only get outspent maybe one-and-a-half-to-one or two-to-one or two-and-a-half-to-one, you're going to start to see those outcomes change.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
I think that we have seen the greatest fusion of big business and government at any other time in our nation's history. And the way business is able to get government to wrap itself around a particular business model. We saw this in big tech where they built in all these immunities Right? That we're supposed to protect a free marketplace of ideas.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
And now that became the function of the censorship that so many of us have endured. And so I shared on TimCast last night, I think the biggest threat to your government, to your liberty, is big government. The second biggest threat to your liberty is big business. And the third, homeowners associations. And... Some know, actually, Al Qaeda started as a homeowner's association.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
Better zoning laws.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
Yeah, I would agree. We were able to create more opportunity in housing in Florida by decentralizing some of the authorities. We had a state entity that had to approve every subdivision, and we abolished that state entity, and we were able to... get more shovel-ready projects underway. At the end of the day, it can't cost as much as it does to build a house and to secure land.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
And if it does, that price will be unattainable for many Americans, particularly Gen Z. Next question.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
Where did that come from? Do you think that after the election, the entire lobby corps of Washington, D.C. just gave up? Do you think that the swamp creature self-evicted? just because Trump was in or McCarthy was gone or whatever changed. No, no, no, no. They believe they are more resilient than that. And they dig in and they burrow in.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
What the lobbyists do, like a lobbyist would wake up and then go to a breakfast where they would hand members of Congress $1,000, $2,000, up to $5,000 for their campaign. And right as they're delivering the money, they make a specific ask. Congressman, we really need you to sign on to this amendment. We really need this bill filed. And they go around and do it. And it was just...
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
For me, when I first got there, before I swore off the money, it was hilarious, because we'd be like, we are Lockheed Martin, and we'd like you to support this weapon system. And the next group would be like, we're the Cannabis Association of America. And I just brought together the weirdest of people.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
So that's what they'll do in the morning, and then they work the halls throughout the day with staff members who hope to one day become lobbyists, saying, you know, we were there for the breakfast fundraiser, and your member really said they'd sign on to this letter for us or institute this amendment, and then they would extract those demands.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
The other thing that lobbying firms have figured out is you don't even need to use the campaign finance system if you hire people's otherwise unemployable family members. The number of spouses and children of members of Congress who become lobbyists is astonishing. Senator Richard Burr, a former senator from North Carolina, his wife and son both became lobbyists.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
And he was the chairman of the Intelligence Committee. So how would you feel if your interests were adverse to the people who were paying the chairman of the Intelligence Committee's wife and kid? Do you think that they had special persuasion skills, or was it their familial relationship that they were monetizing?
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
And then in the last minute, you saw this 1,500-page bill emerge, as it always does, and then you heard the same old line, oh, we have to vote for this for our troops and for our border patrol. And then it had literally the funding of the very censorship industrial complex that we organize conferences like this to combat. And so you...
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
Well, that's what I, I mean, that was my model, sir. What you're describing, I had 200,000 people around this country who'd give me $5, $10, $25, and they didn't need anything from me other than for me to go be me.
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The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
Yeah, you're not going to beat. But guess what? Guess what? We just beat them all this last week. They wanted that 1500 page bill and they lost. So now he's got to start wondering what are they going to do next?
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The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
Here's the advice I would give to anyone considering running for office. You have to have a path to victory. You have to see where are my skills going to be deployed with the right partnerships and the right team members to achieve victory. Because if candidates run and come in Fifth out of seven, they've done less for our movement. It's better to find a place where you can run and win.
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The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
I didn't start by running for Congress. I cut my teeth in the state legislature. I'm a better congressman because I had other experience before serving in that role. What I've also found is you have to show people you're willing to fight for them. I think at the end of the day, when people go into the voting booth, they're not voting for the one that's the most attractive.
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The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
Sometimes they're not voting for the one that sent the most flyers. I think most people go in and say, if my tail's on the line, which one of these people will actually care about me and try to do something for me? And the best way to do that is to showcase it, and you don't have to be elected. Before I was elected to anything, my local county tried to institute a pet tax.
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The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
And so I got together all the pet owners, very eclectic group of people, and we went in and we prevailed on the local leaders to repeal the pet tax. And then people were like, oh, well, when a position in the state house came up and people thought, well, that guy actually cared enough to stop me from paying the pet tax, maybe he'd be a good lawmaker for us.
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The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
So find a fight where people need a champion and do what you can to lead and showcase those capabilities. Thank you.
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The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
Every single lobbyist firm in Washington wanted that bill to pass. Every single one of them. Because they all had something in it. And you know what? They will be back. But the good news is we've had the taste of victory in our mouths a little bit now. And I think we're hungry for more. And we're going to stay on the case.
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The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
Yeah, my beautiful wife Ginger's here. Obviously, marrying her was the best thing I ever did. For her, I'm not so sure, but for me, definitely the best.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
The game you are watching is not even the game that is being played. Most of the members of Congress are merely actors that are reading scripts that are written, produced, and directed by others. And if you read the scripts that they give you, if you hand your vote card to the leadership and your calendar to the lobby corps, then life's pretty good.
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The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
They're able to bring you data that says 97% of you get reelected. Those are pretty good odds. Professionally, most people would want to be in the 97% and would follow the path that most did to achieve that status. And all it costs you is your soul. And then it's cost us our birthright as Americans to live in the greatest country on earth.
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The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
And we are not extending that because we tolerate this system. When they go down into Bay Charlie, no one's even watching. It's phony. It is fake. And the real work is being done by powerful special interests who fund the campaigns.
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The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
And when I was in Congress, I was the only Republican who refused every donation from the lobbyists and the political action committees, and more ought to take up that cause. Now, that didn't win me any.
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The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
You remember when we were at Mar-a-Lago and Charlie, I'll tell you that a lot of people don't know this, but Charlie did so much to help me communicate with senators who I really had no relationship with. A lot of the phone calls would be like, hello, Senator so-and-so. What tweet was that that I sent? Oh, no, that was a staff member, and he was fired the next day.
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The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
But Charlie was working so hard for me. We were at Mar-a-Lago, we were around the pool, and this group of big tech lobbyists come up. Oh, well, Matt, it's so nice to see you. And I could just see in their eyes when we met them that they were going to organize everything they could to oppose my confirmation.
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The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
And so when it became clear that there were calcified votes against me serving as Attorney General, it was not hard to trace those back to the very interest groups that I have been pushing back against and who I would have fairly and justly pursued if given the opportunity to do so.
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The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
The big defense contractors didn't want me because I don't think we should spend hundreds of millions of dollars to build stuff that doesn't work while we haven't taken care of war fighters, 8,600 of them, that were unfairly driven out because of an unconstitutional vaccine mandate. Big tech didn't want to see me there because I actually believe... I'm a bit of a bull moose Republican.
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The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
I think there are times where market power can be used against the American people, and there is nothing virtuous about embracing this neoliberarian theory that you ought to let big business crush people and make the terms of service on some tech platform more important than the values that undergird the Constitution of the United States of America. And...
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The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
There were big pharma lobbyists who were real concerned that we were going to take an aggressive approach at some of the things they've been doing to keep America unhealthy and sick. I am so encouraged that we finally have somebody to lead HHS that wants a healthcare policy to make America healthier. What a novel concept. All we've been talking about is who's going to pay for how sick we become.
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The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
And then keeping you sick creates an economic pipeline and an economic incentive system for interest groups to continue to get paid. So maybe their stock prices won't go up as much, but your life expectancy will go up, the life expectancy of your family members. And I think that is the role of government. We don't live in a place with no rules. There is order. There is national interest.
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The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
And we are going to pursue that interest without apology.
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The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
Well, I learned that there are a lot of Republicans in the United States Senate who may articulate tacit support for Trump. They may even take a photo in the red hat. But at the end of the day, they don't want Trump to succeed because they want to revert the Republican Party to the old ways where we were for endless immigration and forever wars and
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The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
and any trade deal, even if it hollowed out the middle class in this country. That's not this party anymore. Donald Trump has shown us how to win by being a multi-generational, multi-racial party who are unapologetically patriotic, who are faithful, and who believe that there is a responsible role for government, and that currently government has far exceeded that constitutional architecture.
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The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
And so there are folks who I think needled me or were challenging for me because they thought, if we let this guy in there, It really reinforces this whole Donald Trump, J.D. Vance, Matt Gaetz, Tucker Carlson, Charlie Kirk wing of the Republican Party. But we're not a wing anymore. We're the whole damn body.
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The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
Yeah, I mean, everybody acts like we're the ones that are against democracy. Well, guess what? This is what democracy looks like, the people holding their elected leaders to account when those leaders start deviating from your interests. The people in Mississippi aren't for sending billions more to Ukraine, but yet they have a senator who votes that way.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
And elsewhere in the country, people have gotten Potomac fever. They go to Washington, and it's like a city surrounded on all sides by reality, And they are infected irrevocably. And sometimes you've got to dip them back into a little dose of reality. And having strong primary contests is important. Now, we won't win all of them. Look, the establishment is established for a reason.
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The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
They're good at it. They have very talented operatives. They have very exquisite data. They know the skills of deception on how to get to the type of voters who might not come to conferences like this. So let us not act as though they are a defeated force. But you know what? We get a few of them.
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The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
And we send a message to a few more that that 97% is not something they should rely on, that they will be held to account. And you get a few of them in the right type of contest, and you defeat a few of them, I think it will have a very positive impact on the entire body.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
You know, it's a great question. I think that you have to start with what is your core mandate right now. And if you deviate too far off the core mandate early, we found it was hard to get back to it. Here, the core mandate is to save this economy, to secure this border, and to create peace and prosperity in the world with strong leadership where we don't see all this conflict erupting everywhere.
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The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
And if we do those basic things well, I think that will invite people in. I think that sometimes there are issues before us that function as a shiny lure, and I think that if we chase after every shiny lure and get off of that core mission of protecting peace abroad, prosperity at home, security of the border, then we run a greater risk of the midterms going a different direction.
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The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
I'm speaking at 9.30 tomorrow morning. Well, hold on. You laughed.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
That's a good slot. You always take very good care of me.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
Yeah, I got a lot on my chest I still want to share, so I hope you'll come and listen to it. There'll be some new jokes, there'll be some of the same jokes, but you laughed at them. But look, I think that I was elected when I was 26 years old to the state legislature, and I'm 42 right now.
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The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
there is an important part of someone's life where you need to live under the laws that you have helped write. And if you do this for 20 years or 30 years in elective service, even someone who I think, I do everything I can to stay connected to my voters and my bosses, but it's just not something you're supposed to do forever in life.
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The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
Matt, welcome. I wish they were all members of the United States Senate. I really, really do.
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The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
You know, I got the itch to go and be a part of reforming the corrupt institution at the Department of Justice. And I'm excited for Pam Bondi. I'm going to be an advisor and an encourager of hers all the way in her mission. And I'll be ready when God or President Trump or Charlie Kirk call with the next mission.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
Yeah, it's a really smart question. And Texas is one of the states where MAGA is overtaking what was a very strong establishment. That establishment in Texas goes back to the Bushes. It's very ingrained. It's very well financed. And so it took a lot of MAGA energy to get some of the victories we have. You have an outstanding attorney general in Texas, Ken Paxton.
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The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
He might. He might. There are a few. Ronny Jackson's another good member and excited for him. Jody Arrington's the budget chairman and really actually believes we should have a budget, which is nice for the budget chairman to believe in. But I do think it's important, and here's why.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
That 97% number doesn't fully account for the retirements that you get when it starts to look like someone's in jeopardy. You got a few of them in Texas where, I mean, if they haven't already seen the light, they can see it flickering, okay?
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The Power of The Grassroots — Exclusive Interview with Matt Gaetz
I would be happy with the results of any election held at turning point. I could be elected pope. I'm a Baptist.
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Ask Charlie Anything 217: Woke Video Games? The Low-Propensity Switcheroo? Security Clearances?
Well, hi, Charlie. Hi. So dittos because I was a blue dog Democrat.
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Ask Charlie Anything 217: Woke Video Games? The Low-Propensity Switcheroo? Security Clearances?
Yeah, my wife was born. She was a rush baby. So she opened my eyes and I found out that we had fake news. And fast forward to 2020, I have an advanced medical degree and I saw all the writing on the wall for the fake election because of the wishwashiness that was being done. And My question is, are you familiar with ADE, which is antibody dependent enhancement?
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Ask Charlie Anything 217: Woke Video Games? The Low-Propensity Switcheroo? Security Clearances?
Okay. So antibody dependent enhancement is something that, um, it's been seen with multiple vaccine attempts in the past. And so in 2020, I feel like I saw it from a political angle, but also medical. And one of the things that I saw with NIH was, you know, they saw compelling evidence with SARS one, um,
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Ask Charlie Anything 217: Woke Video Games? The Low-Propensity Switcheroo? Security Clearances?
that people, when they tried to do the vaccine for animals, they couldn't even get to the primate stages because the animals would receive the antibody, it would attach to the cell. And then unfortunately, like they would get exposed a few months down the road and that antibody had retarded a little bit. So it would receive the virus, but then it would facilitate it into the cell.
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Ask Charlie Anything 217: Woke Video Games? The Low-Propensity Switcheroo? Security Clearances?
And so the animals would get very, very sick and they would sometimes die. And the people at NIH, the good scientists, I think, they specifically said we need to have a consent form that outlines ADE because we've seen it with dengue virus, RSV, measles, SARS-1, that this is a very real threat. And nobody ever spoke about it. And now I've been in the medical field for 15 years.
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Ask Charlie Anything 217: Woke Video Games? The Low-Propensity Switcheroo? Security Clearances?
And I'm the only person I've known that actually knew what it was because I did some basic research and saw that some people out there wanted others to know, don't take this experimental vaccine without being aware of this very real risk that these antibodies are going to ultimately make it easier for you to get sick.
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Ask Charlie Anything 217: Woke Video Games? The Low-Propensity Switcheroo? Security Clearances?
Can I pay you a quick compliment?
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Ask Charlie Anything 217: Woke Video Games? The Low-Propensity Switcheroo? Security Clearances?
I shut everything off in 2020 because I was so disgusted. And my wife said, no, you have to stay informed. And I was very much I dove into my spirituality, probably watched every Billy Graham video on YouTube. And I ultimately decided that I would try to find someone with strong faith that addressed politics. And that is you. And I'm so grateful.
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Ask Charlie Anything 217: Woke Video Games? The Low-Propensity Switcheroo? Security Clearances?
for you that I'm even a little bit, you know, emotional.
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Ask Charlie Anything 217: Woke Video Games? The Low-Propensity Switcheroo? Security Clearances?
God bless you. God bless you. Thank you, Charlie.
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Ask Charlie Anything 218: The Red State Paradox? Transition Accountability? Stock Market Angst?
Hey, Charlie, good afternoon or at least afternoon on the East Coast. Thanks for everything you all do. I joined an election night, but it's actually my first live call. And the sign MAGA hat that you sent is prominently positioned on the mantle. So, you know, really appreciate everything you all do. And I think you guys had a major impact on bringing the election home.
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Ask Charlie Anything 218: The Red State Paradox? Transition Accountability? Stock Market Angst?
And you mentioned a second ago, the campaign never ended. And here in Virginia, I mean, we're already kind of back in campaign mode with a massive set of elections here in Virginia later this fall. And I just wonder, is there any real plan to try to keep at least one of the houses? I think Spanberger, or I call her Spyberger, just given her background and how slippery she is.
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Ask Charlie Anything 218: The Red State Paradox? Transition Accountability? Stock Market Angst?
But if Virginia loses all three elections, Governor and then the both houses, they're already talking about Raymond through Sanctuary State, nine month abortion, everything. And I just want, we only need to flip to, I'm really came down to the State House and State Senate that combined 4,000 total votes last time around. But I know Speiberger is going to be a tough one to beat.
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Ask Charlie Anything 218: The Red State Paradox? Transition Accountability? Stock Market Angst?
given her background and her positioning. And with the new draw of the congressional district, she's much more tied in with the NOVA crowd, which, as you know, are as crazy as they get.
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Ask Charlie Anything 218: The Red State Paradox? Transition Accountability? Stock Market Angst?
OK, so her biggest issue is, I think, you know, for the most part, she's I would say mostly MAGA. And I think she's come our way over time. I don't think she was necessarily fully on the team before. And, you know, there's still a little bit questionable there. But her problem is that she'll say, oh, you know, hey, we're going to do this or we're going to do that.
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Ask Charlie Anything 218: The Red State Paradox? Transition Accountability? Stock Market Angst?
But in Virginia, you know, the Democrats have like a hard five point edge that you have to overcome. I only have to get every conservative vote, but you have to bring down the negatives of the opponent. And Spanberger has been preparing herself for this for years.
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Ask Charlie Anything 218: The Red State Paradox? Transition Accountability? Stock Market Angst?
And the only way to win or to even beat her or even get close enough to bring one of the state houses over the line is going to be bringing her negatives out. And I've been talking with some of the local people here about this. I think I'm starting to see a little more aggression, but she's a very tentative candidate. She's not that confident in
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Ask Charlie Anything 218: The Red State Paradox? Transition Accountability? Stock Market Angst?
And on her public speeches, and I just don't think she's got a full grasp of the messaging. And she certainly doesn't know how to go after Spanberger, who tries to say, oh, I'm just a regular mom, just a regular mom. But she's as vicious, hardcore left wing as anybody could be. And she's got the deep state pedigree. So she's well-trained. And it's concerning.
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Ask Charlie Anything 218: The Red State Paradox? Transition Accountability? Stock Market Angst?
I mean, if Virginia goes, it's the birthplace of the nation. And they're going to go full bore if they get the trifecta. And Youngkin's been, in my opinion, maybe the best governor in the country But we have the one-term rule here, so he's out in the fall.
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Ask Charlie Anything 218: The Red State Paradox? Transition Accountability? Stock Market Angst?
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Ask Charlie Anything 222: Live Q&A at the Investors Retreat
Yes, sir. Hey, Charlie. My name is Matt. I come from Scottsdale, Arizona. Wonderful. And my question is about the youth. You've built an incredible organization that helps youth from high school through college. But I'm seeing kids being introduced to complex ideas and, I'll say, destructive ideas earlier and earlier, younger and younger.
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Ask Charlie Anything 222: Live Q&A at the Investors Retreat
And kids are getting cell phones at the age of 8 to 10 years old these days. And so my question for you is, how do we capture and get that group earlier? And do you recognize it as a problem? And what do you think we can do about it?
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What Did The Founders Think About Immigration?
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What Did The Founders Think About Immigration?
I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks. I want to thank Charlie. He's an incredible guy. His spirit, his love of this country. He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Well, What Was the Point of All That?: The House Speaker Race
My suspicion is that Mike Johnson will be elected speaker, that it will likely be today. And I would anticipate either the first or the second vote.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Well, What Was the Point of All That?: The House Speaker Race
That's because for my friends who are concerned about Mike Johnson's inability to deliver single subject bills, his inability to put downward pressure on any spending, to open up the process where you can read the bills with sufficient time to analyze their impact in advance. Mike hasn't done those things, but to vote against him now, It does not create an ecosystem to change that dynamic.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Well, What Was the Point of All That?: The House Speaker Race
That will have to be done after President Trump's certification and after President Trump is in office. And I knew when we put a little pressure on Speaker-designate McCarthy to give us some concessions, concessions that put key conservatives on committees where the product at the end of the day we hoped would be more reflective of where our voters are, that was because Joe Biden was president.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Well, What Was the Point of All That?: The House Speaker Race
And there was no real eagerness on the part of the Republican base to get to the Joe Biden agenda, whereas now there's great hope and opportunity that a lot of Americans see in the Trump agenda. So Mike Johnson will be speaker.
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Well, What Was the Point of All That?: The House Speaker Race
I've suggested to my colleagues that the best way to make Mike Johnson the best version of himself is not to put him through the ringer today, but instead to start talking about the policy concessions fiscal conservatives need in the upcoming budget bill.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Well, What Was the Point of All That?: The House Speaker Race
And you'll hear it called reconciliation, which it always seemed like a weird word to me, reconciliation, because that's like when you're getting back together. But the reality is this bill often creates a lot more tension than reconciliation. But there'll be demands for border policy in their tax policy. There'll be a desire to reduce spending.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Well, What Was the Point of All That?: The House Speaker Race
And a lot of the agencies that have had mission creep, like the Department of Education and the EPA. And, you know, our hope is that you get a speaker willing and competent to execute on that agenda. But let me tell you something, Charlie, if this had been a close one, I would have been there. I have a certificate of election that I think still would have worked today.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Well, What Was the Point of All That?: The House Speaker Race
But I spoke to Mike Johnson last night and he exhibited great confidence that after President Trump spoke with a number of our colleagues and excited them around a unifying agenda, that today would be largely ceremonial.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Well, What Was the Point of All That?: The House Speaker Race
Yeah, my vote was needed. I would have been there. I had a flight booked and everything, but the Speaker gave me a ring and said he felt as though that people's concerns had been heard, that they were being addressed, and that they would have a unified Republican team coming out of the day.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Well, What Was the Point of All That?: The House Speaker Race
Well, I'm disappointed as well. When we voted for Speaker Johnson, he was for single subject bills. He was against the war in Ukraine, and he wanted to curtail federal powers of surveillance beyond the constraints of the Constitution. And he reversed his view on all those things and then constructed this terrible spending bill. The hope is... That courage is contagious.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Well, What Was the Point of All That?: The House Speaker Race
That if you believe Mike Johnson is a gutless wonder, that once President Trump is dictating the agenda, Johnson will be merely a vessel for that agenda. He has shown he is not going to be a change agent for the House of Representatives. Now, where I will disagree with your monologue earlier when you said, well, nobody else wants the job. That's not true.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Well, What Was the Point of All That?: The House Speaker Race
Tom Emmer, the current whip, wants the job. Jim Jordan wants the job. You know, they're going to vote for Mike Johnson today as a show of unity. But nothing. I mean, those two guys ran for speaker in 2024. That's typically an itch that doesn't go away with one scratch.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Well, What Was the Point of All That?: The House Speaker Race
Right. Here's what I learned, Charlie. The only concessions that are durable are personnel concessions. When someone says, oh, I promise this bill will get a vote, I promise we'll get a vote on term limits, I promise that we'll have spending cuts, with the right accounting tricks and the right political excuses, people can always weasel themselves out of those commitments.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Well, What Was the Point of All That?: The House Speaker Race
The commitments we got from McCarthy that are durable to this day, putting strong conservatives on the rules committee, putting people like Andrew Clyde on the appropriations committee. And when those folks first get on, they don't have the seniority or at times the juice to drive the agenda of those committees.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Well, What Was the Point of All That?: The House Speaker Race
That's why Lauren Boebert came on my program on One American News last night and said, if Johnson would agree to make Chip Roy the head of the rules committee, a lot of those fiscal hawks would fly in formation behind him in supporting Johnson. I don't know if that deal was made. Johnson was indicating that he wasn't interested in any quid pro quo on personnel.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Well, What Was the Point of All That?: The House Speaker Race
But if I were the holdouts, I would be holding out for getting the people who are not financially compromised by the lobby corps or special interests into some of the key budget positions. That's how it goes best for Trump.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Well, What Was the Point of All That?: The House Speaker Race
Right. Well, that's the essence of it. On everything from immigration policy to a Mother's Day resolution, you typically need 60 votes into the Senate to proceed on to anything of substance. And here there is a unique kind of breakthrough on the Senate filibuster that only requires 50 votes plus the vice president if it is budget policy.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Well, What Was the Point of All That?: The House Speaker Race
So there will be an analysis done of everyone's ambitious goals and ideas for this piece of legislation that already folks are working on this month to see what is true budgetary policy versus what is a policy that is not spending, but otherwise, in nature. And then that will be excluded from what is negotiated.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Well, What Was the Point of All That?: The House Speaker Race
Now, our friends, the border hawks, will say, darn it, we want every bit of amnesty reform in this bill, and that will be challenging. And then you'll have some of the fiscal hawks saying, well, we won't vote for it unless we get the trillions of dollars cut that Elon Musk has talked about with Doge. And my suspicion is
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Well, What Was the Point of All That?: The House Speaker Race
the big spenders still occupy a sufficient majority in both the House and the Senate once you peel away party labels and that they will resist that greatly. So I think that President Trump has got the debt limit to deal with. That could be a function of the reconciliation bill. It's going to be everybody trying to get their priority in this one thing.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Well, What Was the Point of All That?: The House Speaker Race
And ultimately, this is so bizarre, but the Senate parliamentarian is the person empowered to determine whether whether or not a specific feature of legislation fits inside or outside of reconciliation. How's that for in the weeds for you, Charlie?
The Charlie Kirk Show
Well, What Was the Point of All That?: The House Speaker Race
They could, yes, and that's when they have to officially determine whether or not provisions qualify. But here's what will happen. Lobbyists and special interests will go and work the Senate parliamentarian's office to try to get a specific idea or proposal either deemed included or excluded.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Well, What Was the Point of All That?: The House Speaker Race
And so before you even get a ruling from the Senate parliamentarian, you'll have committee chairs and other people who are just vessels of special interests working show up to representatives and say, oh, well, we'd love to include this amnesty reform, but we've heard the Senate parliamentarian isn't going to allow it under what's called the Byrd rule.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Well, What Was the Point of All That?: The House Speaker Race
That's the rule that empowers the Senate parliamentarian to make this calculus. And then when things fall out of the bill as a consequence of the Byrd rule, they are inaptly described as the Byrd droppings of the reconciliation.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Well, What Was the Point of All That?: The House Speaker Race
That's right. That's how the senators behave. But it is sort of, to your exact point, it is a prison of their own construction. right? If I were Senate majority leader, if Rick Scott were Senate majority leader, he would just say, no, no, no, no. This is what we deem appropriate. We're in the majority. The majority deems that for the reconciliation to pass, this is what's in, this is what's out.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Well, What Was the Point of All That?: The House Speaker Race
Presumably, J.D. Vance could do that as the constitutional presiding officer of the Senate. He could just go and by function of the Constitution, seize that power from the Senate parliamentarian. To do that, we would then have to awaken all of the senators with smelling salts after they've clutched their pearls and passed out aghast with the violation of norms.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Well, What Was the Point of All That?: The House Speaker Race
But we're either all prisoners of the Senate parliamentarian or there has to be some exercise of the power of the majority to get our accomplishments into this first critical piece of legislation.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Well, What Was the Point of All That?: The House Speaker Race
No, I'm excited. I've got the Matt Gaetz show on One America News. And the same day my show premiered, One America News was added to Sling and was also added to the Dish Network. So we're in 10 million more homes than we were the day before I started.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Well, What Was the Point of All That?: The House Speaker Race
And I'm really excited about the growth of the network and the opportunity to have the discussions that I used to have with lawmakers on the floor and in committee for the entire country to see. So folks can get the OAN Live app as well or follow me on X at Matt Gaetz. And we'll make sure to include you in the conversation.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Well, What Was the Point of All That?: The House Speaker Race
Thanks, Charlie.
The Game with Alex Hormozi
Building a $3,000,000 Business for a Stranger in 57 Mins | Cash Cows | Ep 867
Yeah.
The Game with Alex Hormozi
Building a $3,000,000 Business for a Stranger in 57 Mins | Cash Cows | Ep 867
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The Game with Alex Hormozi
Building a $3,000,000 Business for a Stranger in 57 Mins | Cash Cows | Ep 867
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The Game with Alex Hormozi
Building a $3,000,000 Business for a Stranger in 57 Mins | Cash Cows | Ep 867
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The Game with Alex Hormozi
Building a $3,000,000 Business for a Stranger in 57 Mins | Cash Cows | Ep 867
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The Game with Alex Hormozi
Building a $3,000,000 Business for a Stranger in 57 Mins | Cash Cows | Ep 867
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The Game with Alex Hormozi
Building a $3,000,000 Business for a Stranger in 57 Mins | Cash Cows | Ep 867
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The Game with Alex Hormozi
Building a $3,000,000 Business for a Stranger in 57 Mins | Cash Cows | Ep 867
Yeah.
The Game with Alex Hormozi
Building a $3,000,000 Business for a Stranger in 57 Mins | Cash Cows | Ep 867
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The Game with Alex Hormozi
Building a $3,000,000 Business for a Stranger in 57 Mins | Cash Cows | Ep 867
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The Game with Alex Hormozi
Building a $3,000,000 Business for a Stranger in 57 Mins | Cash Cows | Ep 867
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The Game with Alex Hormozi
Building a $3,000,000 Business for a Stranger in 57 Mins | Cash Cows | Ep 867
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The Game with Alex Hormozi
Building a $3,000,000 Business for a Stranger in 57 Mins | Cash Cows | Ep 867
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The Game with Alex Hormozi
Building a $3,000,000 Business for a Stranger in 57 Mins | Cash Cows | Ep 867
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The Game with Alex Hormozi
Building a $3,000,000 Business for a Stranger in 57 Mins | Cash Cows | Ep 867
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The Game with Alex Hormozi
Building a $3,000,000 Business for a Stranger in 57 Mins | Cash Cows | Ep 867
Right.
The Game with Alex Hormozi
Building a $3,000,000 Business for a Stranger in 57 Mins | Cash Cows | Ep 867
Yeah.
The Game with Alex Hormozi
Building a $3,000,000 Business for a Stranger in 57 Mins | Cash Cows | Ep 867
Yep.
The Game with Alex Hormozi
Building a $3,000,000 Business for a Stranger in 57 Mins | Cash Cows | Ep 867
Oh, yeah.
The Game with Alex Hormozi
Building a $3,000,000 Business for a Stranger in 57 Mins | Cash Cows | Ep 867
That's good.
The LOL Podcast
Harper’s Quitting School!
Oh, he ripped the tag off? See, this man has no care for anyone's personal property.
The LOL Podcast
Harper’s Quitting School!
I was just saying I think it's great that you don't care about the stuff you wear. You just don't.
The LOL Podcast
Harper’s Quitting School!
What a life change, though. You start to get followers, and then all of a sudden you're in high school, and you're going to football games and everything, and then you meet Cash Baker, and then your life changes.
The LOL Podcast
Harper’s Quitting School!
Cash Baker slides into your DMs, and all of a sudden you're on tour with him. What?
The LOL Podcast
Harper’s Quitting School!
This is like, not like graduating and like going to college.
The LOL Podcast
Harper’s Quitting School!
Kate's trying to make a joke and laugh, but it's not working. Wait, can you do.
The LOL Podcast
Harper’s Quitting School!
After that episode, we can see if they want to see more of it.
The LOL Podcast
Harper’s Quitting School!
Let's say it doesn't happen, and then you quit school, and let's say...
The LOL Podcast
Reacting To Each Others Liked TikTok’s
Harper does snap, or not snap, Instagrams me.
The LOL Podcast
Reacting To Each Others Liked TikTok’s
I'll tell you what, the one that hurt me the most was recently. We did that freaking jump through tic-tac-toe thing.
The LOL Podcast
Reacting To Each Others Liked TikTok’s
He's still complaining about it. It's like his biggest flex was that he got hurt filming a tic-tac-toe video. No, y'all don't understand. My mouth is destroyed from it. That thing slammed down on my face.
The LOL Podcast
Reacting To Each Others Liked TikTok’s
No, when it hit me, it rearranged my whole face.
The LOL Podcast
Reacting To Each Others Liked TikTok’s
No, we cut out that part, but it was funny. My whole face is like.
The LOL Podcast
Reacting To Each Others Liked TikTok’s
Just gonna make sure. We've done some crazy videos from our first videos we did on TikTok, like, musically. Wild.
The LOL Podcast
Reacting To Each Others Liked TikTok’s
I mean, I remember when we went and bought these, like, Christmas dresses and decided to just... Dresses?
The LOL Podcast
Reacting To Each Others Liked TikTok’s
You heard that right. They're, like, stumbling around Target in these little... Like, elf Christmas dresses and, like... I'm trying to think. What's the craziest thing? Running around Walmart in them.
The LOL Podcast
Reacting To Each Others Liked TikTok’s
We shot it wrong. Mostly audio. The audio shouldn't sound good.
The LOL Podcast
Reacting To Each Others Liked TikTok’s
The podcast is at like 8 million something. And you should know, all of those followers were already there when it was the Cash and Maverick account. Yeah, I know that. No, no, no.
The LOL Podcast
Reacting To Each Others Liked TikTok’s
You're overthinking it. You don't look like a bad person.
The LOL Podcast
Reacting To Each Others Liked TikTok’s
You're kind of like really making this all about you right now.
The LOL Podcast
Reacting To Each Others Liked TikTok’s
Oh, I'm doing good. Listen, do you remember playing memory match with Cash when he was like five or six?
The LOL Podcast
Reacting To Each Others Liked TikTok’s
She said he's too cheap. I know, you don't need the money. You're a rich grandma.
The LOL Podcast
Reacting To Each Others Liked TikTok’s
What'd she say? She said, I really do need some money. Okay, well, if you're being honest with me, that's kind of crazy.
The LOL Podcast
Reacting To Each Others Liked TikTok’s
I feel like these are the moments when your mom's watching the podcast and she's just like...
The LOL Podcast
Reacting To Each Others Liked TikTok’s
No. He's trying to go get cards for memory match, I think.
The LOL Podcast
Reacting To Each Others Liked TikTok’s
He literally thinks he's going to beat us alive.
The LOL Podcast
Reacting To Each Others Liked TikTok’s
I mean, this guy at four years old thinks he's a prodigy, and now he can... Can I play him?
The LOL Podcast
Reacting To Each Others Liked TikTok’s
Well, I'm going to look in the movie and if you said it.
The LOL Podcast
Reacting To Each Others Liked TikTok’s
Three minutes and how long? 30 seconds. Okay, I'm timing you.
The LOL Podcast
Reacting To Each Others Liked TikTok’s
Okay, the joke's over. Like, the third time it was funny. Okay.
The LOL Podcast
Reacting To Each Others Liked TikTok’s
But it's okay. And then Kate charged my card $35 for a dog bowl.
The LOL Podcast
Reacting To Each Others Liked TikTok’s
Cash, sit in your box. Cash, get in the box. Cash used to love boxes, man.
The LOL Podcast
Reacting To Each Others Liked TikTok’s
So if I have matching cars, and you crash one, you have to buy me two?
The LOL Podcast
Reacting To Each Others Liked TikTok’s
Yo, that was your padding. Now you're gonna sit on the ground.
The LOL Podcast
Reacting To Each Others Liked TikTok’s
I think they should sing the same song. Like, oh, what's the Spongebob theme song?
The LOL Podcast
Reacting To Each Others Liked TikTok’s
You want to know something? Kinsey doesn't have you pinned either.
The LOL Podcast
Reacting To Each Others Liked TikTok’s
I'm in trouble What am I in trouble for okay?
The LOL Podcast
Reacting To Each Others Liked TikTok’s
You just got burned. Okay, that's not... Hey, but Harper does message me on Instagram.
The LOL Podcast
Reacting To Each Others Liked TikTok’s
She just sends me a video, and it's like, this guy has a foot. Now he doesn't have a foot.
The LOL Podcast
Reacting To Each Others Liked TikTok’s
Listen, I don't think that kind of stuff is funny. I do.
The LOL Podcast
Reacting To Each Others Liked TikTok’s
No, like, the fact that you put that on my phone is crazy.
The LOL Podcast
Reacting To Each Others Liked TikTok’s
Yeah, so you need to call her and tell her. I'm going to put a TikTok on yours, and you put one on mine. And then he was like, Matt, you're just going to ruin the whole episode. I'm actually married to her. We can't even show on the podcast. And then this guy goes, put something crazy on here.
The LOL Podcast
Reacting To Each Others Liked TikTok’s
I said, this is why you can't do that. And then Harper's season goes.
The LOL Podcast
Reacting To Each Others Liked TikTok’s
Well, don't. No, you can't now. Now you can't.
The LOL Podcast
Reacting To Each Others Liked TikTok’s
Mine wasn't worse. Mine was a dude just saying, if you are lonely. No, yours was girl.
The LOL Podcast
Reacting To Each Others Liked TikTok’s
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. What's wrong with you? Yeah, you do have a husband. See, that's intro baiting.
The LOL Podcast
Reacting To Each Others Liked TikTok’s
But they make me laugh a little bit. And I hope one day if I break my arm, it goes viral and it makes people laugh.
The LOL Podcast
Reacting To Each Others Liked TikTok’s
Well, they're so bored. They're playing rock, paper, scissors.
The LOL Podcast
Reacting To Each Others Liked TikTok’s
No, but I never send Harper the videos because I'm always scared she's gonna be like, I don't know. I just can't send you a video of some dude like his arm just like Why can't you do that? I don't know.
The LOL Podcast
Reacting To Each Others Liked TikTok’s
Spread it open and just slide in. There you go.
The LOL Podcast
Reacting To Each Others Liked TikTok’s
Kate is such a liar. She literally makes other accounts just because she likes posting.
The LOL Podcast
Reacting To Each Others Liked TikTok’s
Yo, looks like you're going like, never mind.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
I would like for all of you, actually, to tell them your reason. Because I'm the only one who doesn't want to stop the podcast. But everyone else here wants the podcast to be over.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
You go into the closet downstairs. Under the stairs, yeah. Or, yeah, that bathroom.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
So my DoorDash driver is about to pull up. So I'm going to go see if Diana will come on the show. Okay. I'll be right back.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
You know what? That is the opposite of what I do. When I hear there's a tornado, I go outside. Wait, hold up.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
Every tornado I've ever had close to my house, I run outside immediately to see what it is.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
You were the one who started the entire conversation of quitting the podcast. Okay, no.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
My dad actually was like, get in the car, boys. We're going to go chase it. Yeah, I'm, like, climbing on the roof trying to check this thing out.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
Listen, if you get, like, close enough, then it's like, oh, frick. But if it's, like, you know, 300 yards away, you're fine. Yeah.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
You look at the profile picture. If you guys are wondering why this episode is being posted on a Tuesday, right? It'll be posted on Tuesday.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
Oh, my goodness. Me and Catherine felt mini. But then we realized it was just our sister walking.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
Yes, it'll be posted on Tuesday. Instead of Wednesday, well, you will find out later in the episode why this one is posted on Tuesday instead of Wednesday.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
And I mean with that house starts shaking the first time we live right next to the train and I was like, oh no the train derailed Waters were like yeah, the whole house is And you're like, oh no Oh No, and I didn't really think it could be an earthquake because no one hears about earthquakes in Oklahoma or Texas So I was like, oh, there's no way it's like you didn't even think about it.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
that's crazy have you seen that one video where that girl's putting on lipsticks or lipstick and she like there's an earthquake that comes and she's like do you guys see the earthquakes in japan oh my goodness you guys see that this oh i gotta show you guys some clips right now how have you not seen that like buildings fell i'm not like i'm not really into that i mean like buildings like buildings fell i mean i don't know you know like rooftop pools
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
These people are just sitting here, laying in the pool on top of this skyscraper, and all of a sudden... Just wait.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
Off the edge of the building. If you were in that pool, you're just getting swept over the edge.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
Look at this one. I just saw this one. Look. There's a bridge in between the buildings, and it collapsed because they're separating so much. Look how much it's moving. Oh, my gosh. You can see how much it's moving.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
Those are the teachers that are good. The ones that don't actually take a role. Because then later you can argue and you can be like, I was here. I just had my head down. You did not count me. I would like you to take my absence off.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
Wait, what were you going to say, though? You didn't finish your story. You were doing roll?
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
Did you guys ever feel pressure on, like, how you're going to say it? Like, you're going to say present, here.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
I mean, who doesn't say anything besides here? I mean, I've never really took one.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
Casper tried to just be funny. I'd say, bum. Yeah, he'd be like, not here. And then they'd mark him absent.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
Dang, I'd be marked absent for the whole year. There is always the weird kid that's like, reporting. Here for duty.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
all like delivery food things yeah mav got robbed one time and he holds it against the entire not just once it was many times they just sent you the wrong thing they don't show up with the food and if they do show up with the food it's like never good it's just like like you pull out your mcdonald's fry and you're like and it just goes well you realize it's it's because it kind of sits there for a while
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
Hey, if we were in your school, what group would... Oh, this is such a good question.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
We gotta get the backstory. No, no, no. You gotta get that after because you don't want it to influence her decision.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
What? Yeah, because at the restaurant, Pape and Allison brought it up. They were like, you know what? It's weird. If Matt and Cass went to actual real-life high school, they just wouldn't fit in anywhere. I was like, so we'd be at OutKast?
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
What the? Wait, what sport are you guys talking about right now? The one where they throw the ball.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
Yeah, they got to drop off at three different houses, pick up the food.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
I don't feel like that's, like, a really, like, an athletic thing to do. No, I just don't feel like that's, like, a practice every day after school time to think, like, oh, I gotta go practice throwing my ball again.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
but I don't get like Monday through Friday. How do you practice that? And how do they stay in that one square? Like they're in that little circle. Like at some point I'd be like, I throw the ball that far. That's how far I can throw the ball. Okay, take it or leave it.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
Yeah, but when everyone pays for that, then it's not immediate, is it?
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
Well, that's okay. When we did our field day, I signed up for like the 200 yards.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
No, not a homeschool field day. No, not a homeschool. I went to public school until second grade. So in the second grade, we had field day, and I signed up for the 200-yard dash.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
And then I signed up for the 200-yard dash, so it was to one end of the football field and then back. And it was only me and my friend that signed up for that. So there's only two of us. And his other friend had growth deficiencies. So I cooked him.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
It was just so bad because no matter what you entered, there wasn't many people in it because it was a small town. Like Mavs Race only had five people. Mine had two.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
You played softball and lost to girls that don't. What do you mean you would have done good there? It doesn't get me easier than that. And then my sister signed up for the soccer kick, and my dad was like, why would she do that? She's never kicked a soccer ball, ever. And then she just completely missed and cried and went home. Aw, poorly. Completely missed the ball.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
They gave her like three chances, and she never kicked it. She was just like, couldn't kick the ball.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
Oh, yeah. Mav had five people in his race. I did. And he got last. It was fall. And I have asthma. Okay. And wait. They give out fifth, first, second, third, fourth, and fifth place like ribbons. And since there's only five people in the race, the goal at the event is to walk out with as many ribbons as possible.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
And so since only five people enter into his race, he still somehow got a ribbon, even though he got last place. And he comes over to my mom and dad. My mom and dad are like, sorry, son, you didn't win. He goes, yeah, I did.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
He was like, I got fifth. And they're like, oh. Yeah, you did win. Perspective. And a lot of people lack it, okay? Participation trophy at its best.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
No, no one talks about me getting first in the high jump every year. No one talks about that.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
I always got first in the high jump in my grade, too. What were you going to say?
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
Harper had that Disney Channel moment. She looked at her mom. Wait, how far did y'all run?
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
You guys eat double protein and then maybe you can do pushups too. Just like Kate.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
It's gonna be weird. The sensor's gonna collect cobwebs, collect dust.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
Diana does not know what she's walking into here. Oh, yeah. Here we are.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
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The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
Hey, Michael, can you translate real quick? Maybe. All right, say it again.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
Yeah, Aubrey's going to L.A. for a while. We've got a tour coming up.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
The tour is going to last literally nine months. It's going to be a long tour.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
Getting our house back. But listen, I can't say that I'm not a little excited for just the next chapter because we're still going to bring you guys great content. It's just not going to be in the form of the LOL podcast. And I'm probably not going to be in most of it.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
yeah you can you can be in whatever you want i know but i'm gonna be in la yeah but like when you come back and visit yeah but we're gonna hire a redheaded actor to replace harper which you know no we're not can never replace okay fine she'll be brunette but it'll be pretty much the same um yeah no i i am excited though it's gonna be it's gonna be good it's gonna be good yeah there's gonna be changes don't
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
This is pretty much the last time we're recording on the... The actual set. Yeah.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
I want to keep doing the podcast, but you know what? I'm just going to get other hosts.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
okay that's gonna be great i'd love that and then we'll have a translator also probably the translator probably sit like in my seat diana will probably sit like right here where harper is and what is rosetta stone gonna sit over here and i'll get two other people to go take y'all's places it's not gonna be the podcast though without us you said well i'll keep the name
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
Your fake little crocodile ears over there acting like you really want to keep the podcast going. No, go ahead. What were you going to say? You're acting like you want to keep it going when you don't.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
you just as much as everybody else here knows that what we've done here was like amazing for the time that we did it but it's time that we stop doing this and we focus on bigger and better things i never said that yes you did no i didn't cash no i didn't i never said to stop doing the pod i said maybe we could go like one episode a week or something like that but i never said just stop doing it that's preposterous for you to say that i never said did i ever say that
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
Now ask her, Michael, ask her kiss, marry, kill between Cash, me, and Alex. Wait, what did you say? Ask her to kiss, marry, kill between me, Maverick, and Alex. Okay. I mean, I don't think she knows who you guys are.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
Let's... Yeah, and then all of you... No, and then all of you guys... You wanted to go to, like, one a month, and then you were like, maybe we just, like, blah, blah, blah, and you were like, yeah, I don't really know if we have time for that.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
No, and then you were saying Kinsey doesn't want to do the podcast much longer in general because of kids, and then you said that you want to focus on Cashmab, which I agreed with, but I now said we should stop doing the pod, and then Harper said she wants to focus on acting in L.A.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
Okay. Cash, you have a whole management team that you run for on-screen management and all this stuff, and you're like, man, I just don't have time to do any of the podcast stuff anymore. Okay, well, I still would have time. You started the conversation of not everybody having time, and you too. Yeah, not time to shoot as much as we do, but I said we would still have time to shoot episodes.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
Once a month is just a slow death. It's like just stabbing our boat and letting it leak slow. No, even if it was once a month, it would still be way better than just canceling it. No, it wouldn't.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
What are you talking about? It would be better. It'd be better just to cut it and go down as one of the best podcasts that was ever created on the planet.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
I said one of the best, okay? We've been on the charts for a long time. We're still in the top 20.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
But we are going to have a podcast death day coming up. Or we will bury. What? We're going to bury Gerald.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
Yes. You guys think I'm joking. I'm just being for real. I will continue it with Diana.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
Maybe I'll get... No one will come on. Well, I don't really know who I got to pull from here. But you guys, comment down below who should take over all their seats. Because we're going to have a lot of empty spaces.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
Y'all just watch and see. Without this couch, honestly. The couch would still be there.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
Hard for actually getting the couch put into a museum. Yeah, the YouTube museum of art.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
What is it, you talking to a bunch of heads on a stick? Cash and Friends. I just have Gerald.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
Well, this is the last episode. Should we just keep it going? I mean, we're at time. You might as well want to kill it early, wouldn't you, Matt? I'm just saying we could keep it going for two hours. I don't care. It's the last one for a while.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
yeah well i thought i was under the impression we're gonna film more but if we're not now i'm like slightly sadder me too what are you talking about wait we are filming more i thought no we're not that's what they were saying i mean we can go to one a month but it's gonna like one a month is just like oh my gosh slowly bleeding out the podcast and it's just like it's like stabbing yourself but it's gonna be a sad i'd rather just cut it off and be like listen it was great why do you act like one a month is not good you know what we should do a lot of we should start a channel
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
That we delete in one year. So everybody gets to be a part of it for one year.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
No, this has been like two years. But I'm saying we have, as soon as the channel starts, it has a death day. And so all the content created of that, if you watch it during that time, you are like part of a group of people that know that it existed.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
And then it's just gone. And then it ends up making so much money that we don't delete it. I think Markiplier did that or somebody. I've heard of that once before. I don't know if they actually deleted it.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
You literally say it so depressing, Kate. Like, what? And tour's gonna be a lot of fun. Yeah, it will be. It will be, yeah. Yeah, tour's gonna be great. It'll be a good time. Tour's gonna be a lot of fun. It's fun. Harper, you laugh at my jokes a lot. I appreciate that. She laughs at mine too, but not theirs. No, not really. That would be for real.
The LOL Podcast
The Final Episode.
I don't get it, bro. We do talk loud. Every once in a while, I'll hear you and the other guys talking, and I'll be like... are y'all yelling? And then I go over there, and I'm like, hey, man, what's up? I just joined right in. It is very loud. And sometimes I catch ourselves doing it. We're, like, walking, like, through a restaurant. I'm like, oh, yeah, man.
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And then I realize it's a quiet restaurant, and we're like, sorry, everyone. Everyone's just staring at us.
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How are you doing that with your mouth so fast? Is that not kind of impressive? She was like, I'm like, yeah, do that again.
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All right, guys, so I had a question that I started to ask before the podcast, but I decided to wait until we started the podcast.
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Wait, no, talk with no words again. It was, it looked sped up. Yeah, it was like she was two eggs. She was two eggs feet with her mouth.
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This episode is posted today because it's April Fool's. We'll see you next time. Bye.
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He almost got us. He almost got us. He said the board wasn't recording.
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No, these are different pants. Thank you very much. No, they're not. These are the same pants.
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Nate, you gonna eat that right now? Yeah, Diana brought me Panda Express. Oh, she's this nice lady. Shout out, Diana.
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I was like, excuse me. Excuse me. But she didn't speak English. She didn't know what I was saying.
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Yeah, I don't think you said whatever you think you did. It's mi amo, isn't it?
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What's wrong with Kim Possible? Your outfit for the music video was inspired by a female. Well, no, no, no, by the show. Kim Possible is curvy. The dude wears them on there, too. Yeah, Matt was trying to be curvy for a second. What's the name? What's his name?
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And then called someone who translated. Yeah, Tiamo means I love.
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Te Amo means I love you or something. Dude, all the bilingual people watching this right now are probably laughing their butts off.
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She said, I love you, Harper. That's why she was like. She was like, uh, okay. She's like, my name's not Harper. She's like, no, Tiamo Harper.
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Matt, what was that question you had? Oh, the question was, how much fall damage can you take?
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Well, no, that doesn't count. She still has a functioning parachute, kind of.
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Yeah, like, a parachute would still be slowing her down. Even if it slowed her down, like, 60%. Maybe not enough. Can you land, like, in trees or water? No. Fall damage, like, off of the edge of a building onto concrete.
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Ron Stoppable. That's his name, really? Yeah, Ron. Ron wears the same pants.
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Okay, so are you trying to suggest that you can jump out of a plane and potentially live? Yes. No, she had a parachute giving her drag.
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Also, guys, I don't know if you guys watched one of our last episodes, but the last episode we posted before this.
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You know how if you belly flop into water just, like, from, like, five feet, it hurts?
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Or whatever. I don't know. Whatever episode we're recording on. We decided that we are going to try to get one of our Uber drivers or Postmates drivers, delivery driver, whatever you call it.
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My honey swept up by a tornado. Tornadoes are one of those things that I know they're real and I know they're obviously a thing. I've never been in one though. And they destroy buildings. But I just cannot imagine so much wind that could lift me off the ground. I just don't see that happening. And it just comes out of nowhere. I just don't see my whole body lifting off the ground.
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I know, but for some reason, if I was in that gas station, I just feel like I'm not going to fly away.
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No, Kinsey, nobody has because no one's from Temple. But please tell us.
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DoorDash driver. We're going to try to get one of our delivery drivers to bring our food and... Join our podcast.
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Maybe May? It was basketball. Now that you say that, I remember that. They were witnesses in the car. You did not make it sound like it was an intense situation.
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Matt told me. I was like, what's that about? He was like, she's scared because the power's out. I was like, oh.
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Harper Made Kate Cry!
What was your first phone, Harper? Dude, we were lit with that computer.
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Harper Made Kate Cry!
My first phone ever was one of those that flipped over and flipped up so you had the long keyboard.
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Harper Made Kate Cry!
But mine also wasn't through AT&T or Verizon. I had to go get the prepaid cards from Walmart.
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Harper Made Kate Cry!
I was always so embarrassed because when I sent a text message, it would show how many minutes I had left. So I'd close it real fast and I'd put it down so my friends wouldn't see. I would text somebody and be like, I'm dead.
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Harper Made Kate Cry!
Whenever I'm scared, like hearing your mom's footsteps coming up the stairs, you're like, hurry, hurry, put it away.
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Harper Made Kate Cry!
Yes, you can. It has the left, like, up and down, left and right, and it has the A, B, and Y, and X. I don't know if you can or not.
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Harper Made Kate Cry!
When you self-tan, Mav, if you don't put lotion on, like, the dry areas and, like, in between your fingers because your fingers, like, the crease comes together so there's more skin there so that it looks darker. Oh, no.
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Harper Made Kate Cry!
Or you don't have to self-tan. You can go to a spray tan place.
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Harper Made Kate Cry!
Mev and I, we were going to Target the other day and we saw two girls coming out of Target about your age. Self-tan blindness. Self-tan blindness was real. Heavy. If you think you look orange, these girls were...
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Harper Made Kate Cry!
Cash has told me she's going to walk up to Raiden and be like, excuse me, I think you have self-tan blindness.
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Harper Made Kate Cry!
Can someone inform me? Kate, can you stop acting like a victim? I do, but I think that's Harper's business.
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Harper Made Kate Cry!
Wait, I'm confused. What? Why are y'all laughing? I don't know.
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Harper Made Kate Cry!
Did you get that from our pantry? Cause I was missing some plates yesterday. I was trying to feed people. Really?
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Harper Made Kate Cry!
You should have heard that story because it's not that good of a story, but. What happened?
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Harper Made Kate Cry!
Okay, because we have asked them so many times to go get that guest mattress in the guest bedroom.
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Harper Made Kate Cry!
And they have not done it. And I was like, it's okay, because we really don't have that many guests anyways. It's fine. Well, my friend Abigail came up this weekend, and she was going to stay in the guest room. So I, like, made the bed, and me and Kate got it all situated, and it was good to go. Okay? Well, Abigail gets here, and then me and Abigail leave for her birthday dinner.
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And I come back, and James and Tara's truck is in the driveway. And I was like... Oh, I didn't know they were coming. The boys did not exclude that information to me. They did not share at all.
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Harper Made Kate Cry!
Okay, well, then I'll be real quick. So I tell Maverick, I text him, I'm like, we don't have another bed for Abigail.
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Harper Made Kate Cry!
Yes, we don't have a bed for Abigail, and I don't want her to sleep on the floor. And so instead of responding back to me, Alex walks in the door, and Alex is like, hey, Kinsey, where's your... What is it? My storage unit key. And I was like, why do you need the storage unit key? And he was like, I'll go get the mattress. And Tara's like, those boys, they're delegating everything.
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Harper Made Kate Cry!
Oh, it's a breakaway? I was like, how did Cash just Superman that?
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Harper Made Kate Cry!
What happened, Kenzie? Oh, okay. So all weekend, there's just boys everywhere.
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Harper Made Kate Cry!
Anyways, it's just been boys all weekend, okay? And then on top of that, we go to Pickleball, and we get in the car, and Cash and Maverick are yelling at each other.
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Harper Made Kate Cry!
Anyways, so it's just been a lot. And so I was like, man, when is Kate coming home? And every time I ask Cash... It's in one ear and out the other. He doesn't listen to anything I say. And so I was like, I'll just text Kate. So I texted Kate and I was like, hey, Kate, when are you coming home? You're very missed. And she didn't respond. I didn't see it. I'm so sorry.
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Harper Made Kate Cry!
But then she texted in the group chat and asked questions. And I was like, ah! No!
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Harper Made Kate Cry!
Oh, I wasn't mad, Kate. I knew you were. I was especially happy when you walked in the door this morning. I was like, oh, thank goodness.
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Harper Made Kate Cry!
Harper and Friends. I really want to make my own podcast with girls. That would be fun. We should do it.
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Harper Made Kate Cry!
Well, I wouldn't have done it this style at all. I want to do like a girl's podcast that's like theological based and have like advice for 15-year-old girls. That's good.
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Harper Made Kate Cry!
No, because... I would say that Kate and I both did it so wrong. So now we know the correct way you should do it.
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Harper Made Kate Cry!
Can you spell exclamation point? Please don't. Matt, please don't.
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Harper Made Kate Cry!
Cash, we need one brain cell. It almost came back and hit you in the stomach. Oh!
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I feel like the babysitter showed up to your house and they were like, oh, Harper, she's the cutest little thing. And when they were leaving, they're like, please, I'm never coming back. No, no, no.
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Are you talking about my giac? What was that one? I screenshot it.
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Our House Was Robbed!
Really, that was like level one. I can't see you. Oh, I know who you are. It's Gerald.
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That really hurt my head. Wait, Alex, we haven't showed them your moves, man. Come on.
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Our House Was Robbed!
Everyone can do that. No. Do you guys know how hard it is to sit like that? It's not. Sit like that now. You're freaking weird, bro.
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You know, I've seen those people who like lay backwards. I can do it.
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You've got to get good stretching of knees. Wait. Lay down. What's wrong with you? It won't touch. It won't touch.
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You guys don't understand. My butt won't. It won't touch the ground.
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Our House Was Robbed!
Yeah. Let's see it, Mav. How do you sit like this all the time?
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There's a bunch of freaks in here because I don't bend like this at all.
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Our House Was Robbed!
He was in the other guy's tent. Stop laughing. It would have been fun. This is real life. I'm not making this up.
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Gross. It looks like a bad. Stop smacking. Give me a cheese stick. I don't have any left. Is this one real? Got a whole bag!
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Stop it! Are you kidding me? On my new shirt? Really? On my brand new shirt? And my brand new shorts?
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It's all over both of us. Really? There's mustard everywhere. I'm literally about to gag.
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Would you rather a billion dollars or Stop smacking! My goodness! That's insane! You sound more insane! You're screaming like you're freaking just... Would you rather have mustard on the front side of your body or the back side? Keep going, Harper. Keep going. Keep chugging.
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No, it doesn't look like you have abs. Dude, I'm not going to lie. Taking that shirt off felt so good. Really? It was not feeling good on my arm. I feel like it's making me unswole. It's going to shrink my muscles.
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Oh, guess what? You know how I eat beef jerky sticks every night? Yeah. Okay, so Honey has figured that out. And now every night she comes to me for beef jerky sticks. And I'm like, oh, here's your beef jerky stick. And we eat beef jerky sticks together.
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Yeah, so she chews on it because she likes the taste of the beef juice that's left or whatever. Ew. So I just leave it behind for her.
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I'm just like, oh, that's just my sweat stains. Don't mind that. All right, sorry, Kenzie.
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I Was In An Accident!
Ma'am, I don't think you should say that's your hat. That would be bad.
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I don't want to face the wall. Don't try to make it hard for me. I don't want to face the wall. What? No. If anything, when you're sleeping, you face the outside of the bed. Yeah, no. No.
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So stop clicking on it. I think that actually is a good topic. Everybody comment down below if we should actually dissect a frog. No.
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No. Why would you say that? You know how it's all made up? No. She was asleep. She's literally just making this all up. You were asleep or you would have took Honey outside.
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Also, your dog, you guys want to know what else Honey does? Uh-oh. Listen, last night she has a crate in the living room and a crate in the bedroom. And I have to move her from the living room crate to the bedroom crate to go to bed. Why does she have a bedtime crate and a normal crate? I don't know.
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Backstory, whatever. Listen, anyway, so I'm getting her out of the crate. And I take her into the hallway to go to our bedroom. And we have a TV sitting on the ground because we were in the middle of moving it. And she's scared of a TV that is turned off, by the way. It's just a TV sitting in the hallway. She's going to bed. She sees a TV. She was like, nope.
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And she runs the other way and goes, hides in the crate. And I was like, what? And Kate was like, oh, yeah, she's scared of the TV. She's not going to come in here. I was like, what? And so I get her out of the crate, grab her, and I set her by the TV. And she was like, and runs away. I'm like, are you kidding me? What type of a dog is scared of an item?
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and then can you get on the ground and mimic her run no i won't it's like are you sure and then i had to go grab her and carry her past the tv and she was just eyeballing it like i was like what happened with you in a tv it's just a tv like this sitting on the ground she's terrified of it yeah yeah we need to move that because i can't get the dog what's the biggest dog you think you could take in a fight rot a rock what's the biggest animal you think you could take in a fight
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What was her answer? You. No way. Yes. Nuh-uh. Yeah. That's actually crazy.
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That's actually crazy. I always debate in my head. I was like, which one of them do I say? Well, I sleep with one of them, so I probably shouldn't insult that one. Don't do that one. That's not good. That wouldn't be good tonight. I'd be sleeping on the other, the wet side of the bed. Yeah. Don't always sleep over there.
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Dude, a Yorkie would be scary. I'm terrified of any dog. You're underestimating yourself with a Yorkie.
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Okay, y'all laugh at her. You want to know what's funny? If Honey was mad and she was doing this, ain't no one touching her. Yes, they are. She didn't have any teeth. I could beat her though.
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no if honey was coming at you mad like this like i could kick her you would be scared she doesn't do that so you think she's kind but when you see those canines and they're like i'm gonna look up a mean what's she called i'm gonna look up an angry cocker spaniel and you'll see that you don't want anywhere in that part of honey doesn't have teeth to hurt you she only has a couple angry cocker spaniel
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You could definitely take one of those. And the animal's, like, angry. Like, it is trying to kill you.
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Apparently, Cocker Spaniels don't get very angry. Like, I mean, this is the angriest one I can find. Yeah, he's just kind of moody.
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Did you guys see? What's that girl's name? Oh, my gosh. I'll find it. You know that TikTok trend? That TikTok trend that's like, what's the one you filmed in the airport, Kenzie?
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I Was In An Accident!
Why are you everybody so mysterious? Acting so mysterious. I'm sorry. Did you see that mysterious face?
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No, Stella you can't talk to. I'll be like, you idiot. Why would you do that? Get out of my face. And then she'll just be like, okay. Stella, I swear, does know what I'm saying sometimes.
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The other day she was at the trash can and I go, Stella, no. And she's looking at me and the trash can's right here and she just went, I was like, I know you're behind there still.
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That was dramatic with the bang-bang trick. I go bang-bang, and she always takes, like, a minute to die. She's like this. She's like, sometimes she does, like, a whole movie scene.
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I Was In An Accident!
Crying while you're doing it is real extra. No, Stella does that. Like Stella, I'll be like, get out of the trash.
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I Was In An Accident!
When Matt does it, because Matt yells at her, he's like, get out of the trash. And she's like, he's coming.
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And it's not even food. It's like something like this. And Stella drops it out and Honey's like, give me that.
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I Was In An Accident!
Oh, this is bull. Remember, no one gave me a birthday gift. Oh, thank you so much. And this is, like, all put together with a bow and everything. Oh, my gosh. Wow.
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I Was In An Accident!
dude i can't believe that y'all got um storage units i know that's so cool storage units you mean shelving unfortunately no more tv yeah our tv used to be there and that's why i played video games and i came up here today i came up here today some people were cleaning it out and i was like whoa whoa whoa what's going on here they're like kate told us to move everything so there goes my gaming setup just like that
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I Was In An Accident!
Well, it looks like there's a lot of stuff in there more than I've ever got.
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I Was In An Accident!
You're fine. Don't let them call you fat. Don't let them fat shame you right now. You're going to stretch my shirt out. Don't shame him. Oh, what is this?
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I Was In An Accident!
Okay, clearly she didn't hear the part where it was from all of us.
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I Was In An Accident!
I got my license on the... No, you said over five days. I said under or over a week. That's what I said. Yeah. Yes. You're right. You're right. I said over a week. He owes me $100. What? It was a dollar. I ate a Chick-fil-A sandwich.
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I Was In An Accident!
We're going to be dissecting frogs today, and Kate's going to be dissecting it. What are you doing, Kate? He keeps moving.
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I Was In An Accident!
You had a sleepover at a hotel, and you stayed up watching movies.
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I Was In An Accident!
That's what you do? You know what we do? Hotels, you're supposed to, like... get rowdy, make noise complaints, sneak into the pool after hours.
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I Was In An Accident!
well kate backed into a car left to know then they were like ah don't worry about it that was their junk car anyway well yeah did y'all freaking get did you get grounded well no listen listen how much kate has got off she backed into a car when she was like 16 and they were like don't worry it's a beater car anyway it was no it was a total car the car yeah so they didn't make her pay anything
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I Was In An Accident!
then she backs into a car how did you hit a car that was i was in a neighborhood their car was like parked on the street it wasn't totaled it just wasn't in use and then she backs into a car out of our neighborhood here they don't make her pay for our neighbor did it no then we're at the bank we're at the bank and she opens the door and hits our banker's car he doesn't make her pay for it i
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I Was In An Accident!
Is her car getting taken away even longer? They're towing her car.
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I Was In An Accident!
Kinsey opened her car door, and it flew, and it hit the car next to her because the wind was, like, literally... Well, the banker, actually, it was, like, the most tiny, tiny, tiny thing that I think came from the door. Mm-hmm.
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I Was In An Accident!
so i offered i would have paid for it though it was like i mean a tiny thing not kinsey's it was like a big in the door really yeah and i knew a note would blow away so we put a painter's tape on their car and wrote oh wait yeah did they ever call you never called yeah tape flew away no there's no way no there's no way but they never called or anything really got off lucky man never called was it a nice feeling listen i put it on and i got a feeling they thought somebody just put tape on their car or something
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I Was In An Accident!
Yeah, you know that. Don't tell me you didn't know that. She knows I have that shirt and she bought it because she liked it too. I came home with it and she was like, yeah, look at this. I saw you wearing it. Yeah. How do you like that? Wow. Wow. How do you like that? Wow. Yeah. Real original. Yeah. Who pulls it off better?
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I Was In An Accident!
I don't think anyone's ever hit my car and left a note on it. I had somebody hit my car and run. What? You remember that? No. Yeah, I was at a restaurant and I come out and there's a note on my car.
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I Was In An Accident!
It was, like, okay, you really hit it. Dude, why are these kids hitting and running? I don't understand.
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I Was In An Accident!
He said he got out and looked at the car and didn't see any damage, so he didn't leave it. Dude, honestly, crazy. I was like, what do you mean you didn't see any damage? My bumper's half off. A crazy clutch from the bystander who wrote that. That's wild.
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I Was In An Accident!
Yeah, Kate hit it. And then the girl we were picking up, she's like, oh, don't worry, that car hasn't moved in like a year. And we were late for the movie. We were like, all right, well, we'll write a note on it when we get back. And so it looks like a hit and run. But then when we got back, we wrote a note and left it. But that person that thought we hit and ran...
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I Was In An Accident!
That's when the cops showed up at the door. I was driving for like 15 hours. I'm in the middle of like Utah or something. And it's like 2 a.m. Utah roads. 2 a.m. I'm just driving. Cruise control on.
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I Was In An Accident!
welcome back to another episode guys today we're going to be talking about a very serious topic very serious which is what this is a topic that people avoid in school teachers students and all what what this is a topic that is very uncomfortable puberty dissecting frogs that is what we're going to be doing today are you kidding me i'm a vegetarian and kate's going to be dissecting it in your mouth
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I Was In An Accident!
I pull over, I get to the car to the edge of the road, I jump out, deer's gone. Deer survived. Imagine being a deer and hit and running. I mean, that's crazy. Yeah, it was literally just like, see ya, just took off.
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What do you mean? You fatty. Oh, man. All right. Come on, Kate. Stand up. Who pulls it off better? Ready?
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One time my sister, she was like 16, took us for a drive. We're on like a four or five lane highway, and she spun out and we were doing circles in the car literally spinning We're like looking we turn when you turn around backwards, and you see cars Because you're driving this way it's all of a sudden you're like oh You're just gonna 360 view of the highway.
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Did they not stop? No, no one stopped. But ironically, it was raining. And ironically, about a minute after we spun out, we're still like sitting there on like the side of the road. And then another car spun out and hit the barrier.
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I Was In An Accident!
Hey, sometimes I get it. Like, you're young. You don't know what you're doing. But the worst one was this old guy. This old guy. Oh, that happened to me? Yes. Yes. He knew exactly what he was doing. This man was like 70 years old. Yeah, 65. No, that's excused.
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I Was In An Accident!
no not 70 he was like 60s so he was he wasn't like getting the senior discount yet he was like almost there and he hit me in a freaking car wash tunnel i'm just going through my car wash and then i get rear-ended i'm like oh i forgot to put it in neutral yeah and i was like what the and we get out of the car i'm like not mad or anything so after we get out i just parked the car and i'm kind of like waiting for the guy to come park
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I Was In An Accident!
And he just pulls right out and drives away. I'm like, where are you going, bud? And then I get in my car, and I chase him down. And I was like, dude, pull over, man. Pull over. And he was like... And then I pulled over, and he knew exactly what he did. That's why he pulled over. And he pulled over, and he was like, what? And I was like...
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I Was In An Accident!
oh uh you know you just hit my car about 60 seconds ago he was like oh it probably didn't do anything i was like well maybe not let's find out and then it didn't he was so mad like cursing at me i was like dude you're the one that hit my car he's like it's the car wash's fault i was like like okay well you say it didn't it dented it no it didn't do anything to my car but he just kept blaming it on the car wash i was like come on man
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real original guys you know you think i'd feel self-conscious in this but i feel kind of jack you know what i'm saying do i look jacked in this no you look like something wait you actually i bought this first no i bought it first i bought it first i bought it that's crazy because i bought it first what what Oh, no. Oh, wow. Real original, Mav. Real original. What do you mean?
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No, the one thing that I found out... about being a teenager. And it sounds stupid, but if you tell your parents the truth, you just get in way less trouble. No, no, no. Way less. I mean, way less. Way, way, way. I don't care if you killed someone. Not only way less trouble. You get to do way more things. Yes. Because I don't know why I never understood that until like literally like a year ago.
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Okay, fine. I'll tell the story. I think I've told this one on here.
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I Was In An Accident!
Yeah, the Missouri story where I fell asleep at the wheel. Yeah, but did you tell them what you did to Dad? The lie?
The LOL Podcast
I Was In An Accident!
I took the car. Mom and Dad are out of town. I took the car to Missouri. I live in Oklahoma, by the way.
The LOL Podcast
I Was In An Accident!
No, no, no, they weren't out of town. I was staying the night at Alex's house. Alex's parents were out of town. I took the car because they thought I was staying the night at Alex's house.
The LOL Podcast
I Was In An Accident!
Yeah, it was like a three, eight, four hour drive. I took like a four hour drive.
The LOL Podcast
I Was In An Accident!
Yes, Kate, we understand. And I took the car to Missouri for me and my friend to go meet up with some girls.
The LOL Podcast
I Was In An Accident!
It was disgusting. And anyways, long story short, we drive, like, three or four hours there, three or four hours back. No way. We're, like, 30 minutes away from our house. And they're, like, we got away with it. And I'm just so sleepy, just like.
The LOL Podcast
I Was In An Accident!
And I fell asleep at the wheel again. And so, yes, and before I got my license, I thought it was impossible to fall asleep at the wheel. And I did it twice, and now I learned. Anyways, I hit the barrier, and my dad's like, well, what the frick? Did your friend not wake you up? Well, I mean, after I fell asleep. After you hit the barrier, they didn't just go fix it.
The LOL Podcast
I Was In An Accident!
In the morning, we had to go to church. Yeah. So anyways, I was late to church. My dad's like, what the heck? I didn't show up. He's like, what the heck? I was like, unfortunately, the car is damaged. And, you know, I told him, I was like. I made up some lie. I said I hid it by pulling out a McDonald's. I was like, me, Alex, and my friend was at McDonald's, and we hit the curb.
The LOL Podcast
I Was In An Accident!
And then my dad was like, no. No, you didn't come to dinner. He was interrogating me. Yes, and then he was asking Matt questions, Alex questions. He was interrogating everyone. Individually, not in a group, which is terrifying.
The LOL Podcast
I Was In An Accident!
And then he finally came to a conclusion on his own. He's like,
The LOL Podcast
I Was In An Accident!
you were because it was like a dodge challenger so he was like you were hot rodding it weren't you what does that mean like driving like drifting around corners and stuff doing donuts or whatever he's like and then you damaged it from doing that didn't you and i was like yeah you caught me but luckily you caught me but here's the problem he was not just asking you he was asking me and alex as well at the same time but all of us when he asked us that question we were like yeah that's what he was doing
The LOL Podcast
I Was In An Accident!
We're like, you got us. That was it. I was hot rodding it. And you know what? Now that I think about it, I don't know why I didn't just tell him I fell asleep at the wheel.
The LOL Podcast
I Was In An Accident!
either way because he would have been like why were you out driving no you know no it could have been in the morning i could have told i could have lied to him about the time of day anything last time i fell asleep at the wheel it's two o'clock in the afternoon so i could have just been like dad you made me get up early for church obviously i'm gonna crash yeah i could have just been like oh i fell asleep at the wheel again and they would have been like son you gotta be more careful i would have been like i know i know and everything would have been great i don't know why i didn't just say that wait does he know the real story now
The LOL Podcast
I Was In An Accident!
You knew I had this shirt. Yours is extra cropped, too. Look at that.
The LOL Podcast
I Was In An Accident!
Yes, so once again, if you just tell the freaking truth, it would be way easier.
The LOL Podcast
I Was In An Accident!
I got something. You probably didn't get to drive the car for a little bit. I don't know what it was.
The LOL Podcast
I Was In An Accident!
Yeah, well, thank you guys so much for watching this episode. Make sure to subscribe because we're trying to hit 3 million followers.
The LOL Podcast
I Was In An Accident!
Wait. Did you copy my underwear, too? What? Oh, my gosh. You got the Born to Yap underwear?
The LOL Podcast
I Was In An Accident!
Dude, they only make them in thongs, too. No underwear. No boxers.
The LOL Podcast
I Was In An Accident!
Well, mine's not a thong. This chair is very unstable. I think you chose that one.
The LOL Podcast
I Was In An Accident!
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I Was In An Accident!
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The LOL Podcast
I Was In An Accident!
And we're back because apparently you can't talk about crop talks.
The LOL Podcast
I Was In An Accident!
Actually, no. I think if anything, you maybe threw one of those edit fittings where it's like, you type in, give me apps.
The LOL Podcast
I Was In An Accident!
I mean, I don't exactly post my abs all over Instagram, although I should.
The LOL Podcast
I Was In An Accident!
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I Was In An Accident!
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I Was In An Accident!
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The LOL Podcast
I Was In An Accident!
Yeah, someone make this an Instagram post. We definitely don't post on Instagram. We probably shouldn't do that.
The LOL Podcast
I Was In An Accident!
No, we're not going to do that. Yeah, I can't believe you'd put yourself on the internet like that. That's crazy. Me?
The LOL Podcast
I Was In An Accident!
That's the only way we could catch it. We caught it very quickly. All right. The frog is already dead, so no need there. You just have to dissect it.
The LOL Podcast
I Was In An Accident!
No, I think we'll wear these the rest of the... I don't think I'm going to.
The LOL Podcast
I Was In An Accident!
It's so uncomfortable. Did you ever... Yeah, they are tight. It's like it hurts everything. Why do girls wear this tight clothes? Like, my armpits are going through it. No wonder y'all get sweat stains so easily.
The LOL Podcast
I Was In An Accident!
No, it's not. No, it's not. There's no way. Mav, you'll be honest. Yeah.
The LOL Podcast
I Was In An Accident!
Wait, let me see it. Let me see it. Let me see it. No. Wait, why is mine... Yours is a medium? Well, you probably picked up mine on accident this morning.
The LOL Podcast
I Was In An Accident!
Okay, well... All right. Next up, we're going to be trying crop top pants.
The LOL Podcast
I Was In An Accident!
Yeah, bodybuilders, oddly enough, bodybuilders and cheerleaders have the same effect on the stage. They are just yellow.
The LOL Podcast
I Was In An Accident!
What? What's that supposed to mean? I'm literally like 30 pounds heavier than him. So not only do you think I'm weaker than him, you also think he's stronger enough to hold 30 extra pounds than I can hold.
The LOL Podcast
I Was In An Accident!
Well, I am. Taking it very personal. I say we have a strength contest. Well, I did just say, like, day. You're wearing a crop top. Yeah, pipe down. So are you. Yeah, well. I can't wait to show you my crop shorts. You already used that joke. Crop pants. Sounds cooler when you say it like that.
The LOL Podcast
I Was In An Accident!
What are you doing? Go grab the hat. What are you doing? Kate.
The LOL Podcast
I Was In An Accident!
Oh, so you think we bully you behind your back? Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we do.
The LOL Podcast
I Was In An Accident!
No, I didn't, Kate. I didn't fart. Okay, just every time you smell something bad, you can't just accuse it. What's that? Accuse. Yeah, you can't just accuse me.
The LOL Podcast
I Was In An Accident!
I don't know if y'all heard that one on camera. It was silent, but it was deadly.
The LOL Podcast
I Was In An Accident!
I think you're really embarrassed if you actually did. Yeah, you know, I didn't think you drew your abs on until you're archiving.
The LOL Podcast
I Was In An Accident!
If Cash posted a photo and I was like, it looks like you drew on your abs, he'd be like, really? It's a compliment. It looked that good? It's a compliment, actually. I posted a workout progress picture, like...
The LOL Podcast
I Was In An Accident!
What are you talking about? It's a dead frog. It can't hurt you no more. He keeps moving.
The LOL Podcast
I Was In An Accident!
It's called motivation. Trying to motivate people to get in the gym. Okay? If you get in the gym, maybe one day you can look like this.
The LOL Podcast
I Was In An Accident!
Obviously, I'd have Kate take the picture. I can't just take a picture by myself. And you know what the person in the gym told me? the gym owner you did this in public it was at our gym and the gym owner was like hey man you gotta put your shirt back on I was like what type of a gym is this
The LOL Podcast
I Was In An Accident!
Yeah, well, they don't have... A gym should have a section for progress photos then, okay? Perhaps the bathroom? No, their bathroom's like... It's like a truck stop bathroom. You can't take a progress photo in there.
The LOL Podcast
I Was In An Accident!
No one saw anything. Don't use my angle. Did you archive it, Harper?
The LOL Podcast
I Was In An Accident!
He's little. He's only like this big. Let me see him. Come on, Kate. Yeah, there's no frog.
The LOL Podcast
Hear Me Out Cake!
It is illegal. You can't discriminate against someone's age if they're above 18. Exactly. I say we give the phone to Harper and Cash right now.
The LOL Podcast
Hear Me Out Cake!
I'm applying right now for her account, and I'm putting the same names and the same numbers in.
The LOL Podcast
Hear Me Out Cake!
I wanted us all to do an episode today rating our croquette outfits or whatever. Croquette?
The LOL Podcast
Hear Me Out Cake!
Kate suffered slings and arrows of outrageous wrongness. That's what happened, okay? It was all Cash's fault.
The LOL Podcast
Hear Me Out Cake!
It's not a real... Yeah, and we were all going to dress in the aesthetic.
The LOL Podcast
Hear Me Out Cake!
I don't know why you're shocked she put her silverware down. I mean, when you call her fat. I didn't call her fat. What? I'm kidding.
The LOL Podcast
Hear Me Out Cake!
Where all three of us are looking at them. No one's saying anything. All three of us are looking at the flowers. We're just kind of like... Yeah. Yeah, we got it.
The LOL Podcast
Hear Me Out Cake!
You guys know Despicable Me where she's holding the Cheeto and she thinks it's a butterfly? Yeah. That's what Kate looked like with her bottle walking through.
The LOL Podcast
Hear Me Out Cake!
Oh, gosh. We're gonna get in trouble. We're getting clipped. We're adults. We gotta set examples, guys.
The LOL Podcast
Hear Me Out Cake!
I'll be there. Especially someone I don't even know. Yeah. It's like, that's free.
The LOL Podcast
Hear Me Out Cake!
And this guy has TP'd more people than you could probably think of.
The LOL Podcast
Hear Me Out Cake!
Let me put it this way. We thought about taking all of the tires off the truck. But we thought that wasn't far enough.
The LOL Podcast
Hear Me Out Cake!
We're making it sound like this is a, like, listen. Highly recommend.
The LOL Podcast
Hear Me Out Cake!
We had a plan to get all the cameras covered without getting caught.
The LOL Podcast
Hear Me Out Cake!
Dude, if I was really cute, I would have covered my face and started trying to run out of there.
The LOL Podcast
Hear Me Out Cake!
Look up who voices Ferb, and I guarantee you he's going to say, yo, buddy.
The LOL Podcast
Hear Me Out Cake!
It's really hard to say. All right. Anyways, Matt, what were you going to say? This last one. This is Miss Hopps. This last. Don't steal my thunder. Okay. This last one is a baddie and probably one of my favorite movies. I'm not going to lie. Judy Hopps.
The LOL Podcast
Hear Me Out Cake!
Slim thick. Yeah, she's fine, though. All right, Harper. She can arrest me anytime. What the? What? What the?
The LOL Podcast
Hear Me Out Cake!
Hey, if John Port texts you first, are you going out on a date with him?
The LOL Podcast
Hear Me Out Cake!
Y'all remember the other day when... All right, what are you saying, Kenzie?
The LOL Podcast
Kate Raged and Slapped Kenzie!
No candy. No ladder for me. You got it. Come on. Oh, my gosh. I mean, the hole. Extension. Extension.
The LOL Podcast
Kate Raged and Slapped Kenzie!
Grab my foot. I can't. Okay, what do we do now? You used the ladder.
The LOL Podcast
Kate Raged and Slapped Kenzie!
Don't touch the wires. Three, two, one, go. Oh, my gosh.
The LOL Podcast
Kate Raged and Slapped Kenzie!
Hey, you're fine. You're fine. Cash, give it to her now.
The LOL Podcast
Kate Raged and Slapped Kenzie!
You're gonna be sorry. Wow. She really tried to cool her down.
The LOL Podcast
Kate Raged and Slapped Kenzie!
She really tried to cool her down. Oh. What is wrong with you, Kinsey? Why would you hit me like that? Clean it up, too. Clean it up, too.
The LOL Podcast
Kate Raged and Slapped Kenzie!
I'm trapped. I don't know where to go. Please work right now.
The LOL Podcast
Kate Raged and Slapped Kenzie!
Can we cut that whole thing? I have hats in my room. Why is he getting a hat? Actually, Cash, I think one of your hats is enough.
The LOL Podcast
Kate Rages At Cash For Reading Her Diary!
All right, explain it. Because it's like two things that mean two different things, but you put them together. Okay.
The LOL Podcast
Kate Rages At Cash For Reading Her Diary!
So it's drippy because it is literally dripping.
The LOL Podcast
Kate Rages At Cash For Reading Her Diary!
And then it's also drippy like... Your clothes are drippy and stuff.
The LOL Podcast
Kate Rages At Cash For Reading Her Diary!
I realized that I like Maverick at Kung Fu Panda in the movie theater.
The LOL Podcast
Kate Rages At Cash For Reading Her Diary!
I really would like some chips and cheese. I would like for my cheese to be solid form.
The LOL Podcast
Kate Rages At Cash For Reading Her Diary!
And that's why they named it Lunch League.
The LOL Podcast
Kate Rages At Cash For Reading Her Diary!
Oh, I just definitely am not. I'm the most intelligent one out of Cash and Maverick.
The LOL Podcast
Kate Rages At Cash For Reading Her Diary!
Rounding it up, it's 70,000. Well, because that means he's like half of what I am.
The LOL Podcast
Kate Rages At Cash For Reading Her Diary!
She was a nice lady. Wait, wait, wait. Maybe, but the one thing that I remember, I think I remember, I feel like I can't say.
The LOL Podcast
Kate Rages At Cash For Reading Her Diary!
But that was like the moment I was like... I love this guy. What the?
The LOL Podcast
Kate Rages At Cash For Reading Her Diary!
If I was a mom and opened that up before giving it to my child on Christmas, I would burn it. I'd burn it.
The LOL Podcast
Kate Rages At Cash For Reading Her Diary!
He was entertained by the kid movie, and that was it for me.
The LOL Podcast
Kate Rages At Cash For Reading Her Diary!
In the video that we just made, who killed Harper Zomer whenever I'm flying?
The LOL Podcast
Kate Rages At Cash For Reading Her Diary!
Oh, I had, like, a serious double chin in the air, and I was like, I can't even, but my, I looked really bad.
The LOL Podcast
Kate Rages At Cash For Reading Her Diary!
Hello from the other side. Is that like what you hear in your head?
The LOL Podcast
Kate Rages At Cash For Reading Her Diary!
Wait, are you serious? Try again. Say something else, maybe. This is my American accent. Say, like, does anybody want some tea and biscuits? I feel like I just fumbled the bag so hard.
The LOL Podcast
Kate Rages At Cash For Reading Her Diary!
I'm going to do a British accent. What should I say?
The LOL Podcast
Kate Rages At Cash For Reading Her Diary!
Was it in all caps? Is that why you screamed?
The LOL Podcast
Kate Rages At Cash For Reading Her Diary!
Do y'all remember Cash's text messages? Kate was destined to be with Cash.
The LOL Podcast
Kate Rages At Cash For Reading Her Diary!
Imagine, you're 11 in 2016, and some of the kids watching this were born in 2016. That is crazy.
The LOL Podcast
Kate Rages At Cash For Reading Her Diary!
What do you mean? Her hair is bleach blonde. Quit.
The LOL Podcast
Kate Rages At Cash For Reading Her Diary!
I don't think I can do that. It takes a special person to pull it off, and I would just crash.
The LOL Podcast
Kate Rages At Cash For Reading Her Diary!
Wait, can we just do a mukbang episode then?
The LOL Podcast
Kate Rages At Cash For Reading Her Diary!
I've never once said that I was a skinny queen. No, you should, girl. But you know what? I'm eating skinny queen. Yeah. Do I say that right? No, you have to say I'm skinny queen.
The LOL Podcast
Kate Rages At Cash For Reading Her Diary!
The last few minutes I've been thinking about throw up because of things that you said and then Harper sounded like she was throwing up earlier. Honey has thrown up three days in a row every single morning. My poor baby.
The LOL Podcast
Kate Rages At Cash For Reading Her Diary!
No, the two times I've seen honey throw up, it's like clear, like just straight stomach acid.
The LOL Podcast
Kate Rages At Cash For Reading Her Diary!
Hey, Paul, is that the noodles? Anyways, what I was saying was I made this homemade last night while y'all ate Burger King for lunch, so... Oh, Paul, you're so good at cooking the noodles.
The Lore Lads
The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Go to the trench. Go to the trench. They yearn for the trenches.
The Lore Lads
The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
We yearn for the mines, they yearn for the trench. We can find common ground, guys.
The Lore Lads
The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
That's the common ground. Yeah. No one can see if you're underground. See, that also should go on a shirt.
The Lore Lads
The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Anyway, dino nuggies for 1911.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
good number though i know amazing uh says hey can't watch the stream i'm in dc on a senior trip apparently the guy who designed the city was a mason yeah yeah most of the people who designed the country were the so the actual designer of the city if i remember correctly it's unconfirmed that he was a mason but the guy who come the people who commissioned it were you good yeah i just i've developed a weird posture where i keep sitting on my tailbone so i have to like okay
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
yeah i don't know that's it hurts sometimes we should drink during this show yeah well it's because i have short legs so i have to like if i want to sit i know buddy properly then my butt moves forward a little corgi i am a little corgi oh yeah we discovered that uh a few weeks back i don't know if you i don't think you were there at that point yet uh sitting you mentioned this on the show
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Not going to lie, I didn't realize you changed your name for a second. Yeah. Tyler Downroper from 556 says, Have you ever thought the fact that if God made us, he would have had to handcraft each of our... Guess what the last word is. It's not how it works. So is it like a... Like he designs the engine and it runs? I don't know.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Well, you gotta do a prototype.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
No, we can't. a7xmshadows19 for $9.99 says hail devotee Pennsylvanians or devout Pennsylvanians I'm happy to say that I've re-upped my Patreon now I revel in said drunken antics also new Sabaton song is fired yeah speaking of the drunken antics we will be filming at least two potentially even three of those this not this weekend next weekend yes hopefully sometime next week
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
I'm sure Mike and Sam would be down for that.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
That'd be hilarious. Is it your cousin Sam?
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
You want to elaborate on that at all? Probably shouldn't, honestly. No. It's not good, guys. It's not good. Anyway. Miss Mori for five bucks says, not worrying about censorship or viewership, if each of you could make a Lore Lodge video on any subject, what would you choose? It's not... The Mothmussy.
The Lore Lads
The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
I would love to. It's not censorship or viewership I'd be concerned about. It's my life. I would love to do a deep dive on Scientology.
The Lore Lads
The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Nor do I want them spreading lies to everyone I know.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Or just give everybody the disclaimer ahead of time.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
What? I can't remember how old she was. She was, like, still underage. And she, at one point, like, recently, she was like, hey, just so everybody knows. So she, like, tweeted it out or something. She was like, if anything ever happens to me.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
I wouldn't be shocked. I don't even remember the full story with McAfee.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Yeah. Wasn't it essentially like legal malware?
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Fair. That's the most authoritarian thing I've ever heard you say.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
In exchange for a pretzel.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
You coming over to me?
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
I love it here. Anyway. Anyway. N0VA42. I normally say that differently, but I don't know why I did it like that this time. Do Mason lodges have lodging?
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Fair. Abel 326 for five bucks says, my fiance introduced me to your channel about two months ago, and I've been binging the videos ever since. Thank you. We appreciate the awesome content. Thanks, guys.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Nice. Gomb says for $5, sorry, we have to brace ourselves here. Is it true that Aiden makes Aiden put on the maid outfit when Aiden is naughty? And if you're not straight, does the Wendussi still lust for you? Time sensitive.
The Lore Lads
The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
So... And even, like, there's no guarantee that the family was being accurate, per se, and even their assumptions and assertions about her?
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
No, they're actively, uh, ignoring you. Yeah. Love it. Ross led in for four 99 says, have you seen the unsub guys backing? Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Honestly, sweet. I'm ready to March on Buffalo.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Throw them off the, uh, waterfall.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Now we're talking. Now we're talking. All right. Vampire from Pluto for five bucks says, besides JonBenet, what topics that you've covered do you think could be books? Personally, I think Dyatlov Pass and Vinland would be good books. Well, Vinland technically is two. Yeah. Dyatlov would be an interesting book. I feel like someone did do a book about Dyatlov at some point.
The Lore Lads
The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
I gotta say, I think Dyatlov is probably one of my favorite topics we've covered.
The Lore Lads
The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
There was just something about producing that series that I really enjoyed. Yeah, it felt good.
The Lore Lads
The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
I skipped through them again recently. They are pretty damn well made. Okay, yeah. So the latter is probably the best option. Okay.
The Lore Lads
The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Could have even been that they were worse than even the parents realized.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
that's part of it it's like it's some of my most proud work okay yeah we can definitely do that then all right cool jacob hyatt for twenty dollars and one cent love the specificity says just wanted to say awesome content joined both history unhinged and lore patreons oh thank you also yeah thank you very much also made the offer a while ago but wasn't able to find any way to go further about being willing to come on to discuss mormons oh that could be interesting that could be interesting send a message in the discord and or to the email somebody will see it yeah eventually
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Yeah, remember how we used to work two full-time jobs? Yeah. I started tracking my hours again with Clockify. You know how it wasn't a full week last week for me? Sure. Because I went away on Thursday. Monday through Wednesday, I somehow worked like 50 hours. Oh, my God. Horrifying. Part of the reason I started tracking, I was like, I feel like I'm not working enough.
The Lore Lads
The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
And I want to start tracking to make sure I'm being productive. And I was like, oh, no, I guess I am.
The Lore Lads
The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Yeah. So we're going to have to cover JFK, which, you know, fair enough. You know what? I think JFK would have to be our next JonBenet.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Because there's so much. That it just, it would take way too long. Yeah, definitely. But yeah, could be fun. Could be cool. Uh, JMO's back at it again for five bucks.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
You'd be amazed at how rare that is on the things that he has to research.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Anyway, from Jamo, a year ago, you planned for the show to have more guests and discuss the videos less. What happened?
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Yeah, because we don't want to hire anybody until we can actually pay them something that we would want to be paid ourselves in that position. Yep. So we're just going to work until we get there.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
um az cosplays for 539 says work as a baker full-time start 3 a.m getting done by 3 p.m there's a tulip festival in the city i work in so y'all's long videos are saving grace i'm glad love to hear it also that's yeah that's a lot of hours yeah yeah you know if you want to send us some bread we like bread probably a little too much bread bread bread kind of like ducks in that way Yeah.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
It's shocking, but somehow the lightness of the small size of the shoe helps me be a little faster.
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PumpkinBear7 for $5 says, what's the worst cryptid in y'all's opinion? What is y'all's favorite fun fact about the USA Revolutionary War? I also plead the fifth on bear attack. Bear. Okay. Worst cryptid? Are we talking like worst as of like worst to encounter or worse as in like this is clearly BS?
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I'm pretty sure this has got to be from like that Jimmy Neutron episode.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
I feel like the skunk ape is up there.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Oh, I thought you were going to say the squonk.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Yeah, either they heard the term gorilla and just said it because they wanted it to seem mystical or mysterious or whatever. Would Kanye West be considered a cryptid at this point? God, he was probably considered a cryptid in 06. Yeah.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Yeah, it works out really well.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Wow. God, we live in a society. Yeah.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
But how does she know about cameras? Yeah, that is great. It's before he went off the deep end.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Yeah, we've got a lot of questions coming in already.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
I'm not going to lie.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Yeah. Yeah, sometimes you don't know how to work with that. Yeah, you just gotta be nice about it, you know?
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Well, that's a sidebar.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Sounds good to me. First one is up from Flaw for five bucks saying, I can do the objective when I choose to Aiden.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Yeah, COVID was a weird time.
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Were they still together at the time?
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Yes. Did he ever financially recover?
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Anyway, Cavecoding for $22.30. Love the specificity. Says, Lorelad's been watching since the original TikTok video. That is... Wow. Whoa. You've been here almost four years. I'm sorry. Yeah. I think every video is interesting, but think the native history segments are amazing. Excuse me. Hope you write a book on it someday, but would buy any book you write. Oh, thank you. Thank you.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Well, I did just see a couple people recommend in the comments of the last one that they really want us to redo the Kenny Avicii video.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Yeah, because we were considering doing this.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Oh, really? Yeah, his channel is. Also, I'm not taking offense when he says the video is not good. It's primarily because our equipment and capabilities have grown exponentially over the first year.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Yeah, you were back in school. At the very beginning, I think you had, because you were still working to some extent for that one company.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Yeah. Yeah. So, like, dude, going back and watching some of our, like, very first videos. Mm-hmm.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Yeah. You're telling me I went to film school and I did that? We were working with what we had. I know. I know. It's just hilarious. It is funny how like when they say, you know, gear doesn't make a difference. And it's like, it does. It does. Like you can do a lot of great things with minimal gear, but it makes a difference.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Oh boy. Yeah. Anyway, so Kenny Beach, not really worth going back to.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Got it. I mean, technically.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Fair. Captain Gus McRae from 499 says, have you seen Lowsome Dove? My name is Gus and my brother is McCall. It was my dad's favorite movie, Milk.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
That was pretty cool. Thank you for the gift.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
No? But I like movies.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Yeah, have to check it out. Nicholas Long for five bucks says, I'd like your opinion on, or opinions on 10 millimeter because it's my personal fave. The socket's great. I've never actually shot 10 millimeter.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
I mean, it's in between a nine mil and a 45, right? Yeah.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Yeah, that makes sense. It's a good balance.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Yeah, .357 is no joke. It's like a mule. No, imagine .44. Oh, yeah.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Yeah. The most accurate caliber I've ever shot, for me personally, is .45, both ACP and Long Colt. 9mm is tough for me. No matter what gun I shoot with 9mm, it's just for whatever reason, I have a tough time with 9mm. Practice is something I need to do. But every .45 I've ever shot, I can hit dead center.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
How different are those opinions?
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
he was putting shots right on target yeah that's awesome yeah 1911 pretty solid and then trent had uh his 45 long colt at the range one day and similar to your pistol it's it is only single action yeah uh but there's just something about it even just one hand in it down the range it's just like it's designed to be accurate oh yeah it's nuts i don't know it was fun it was good stuff
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Yeah, guys, if you haven't shot anything before, it is really hard to be accurate.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
It's funny, the more you shoot, the more you realize that those movies where everybody's like, it's a massive gunfight and nobody's hit anybody is actually probably the most accurate version.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Oh yeah. Oh, I can imagine.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Uh, next. Oh yeah. Just thoughts on 10 millimeter. I don't really, I've never shot it.
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MN underscore growl live for five bucks says long time watcher. First time catching a live on time. I just wanted to say you guys are great and wondering if there's any four on one for the Midwest. Oh, there's cases. That's for sure. The problem is I was like, There's not a whole lot of sensible opportunity. Maybe in the North Midwest. Jordan Grider. Yeah, Jordan Grider. Where was that again?
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Ladies and gentlemen, we have dogs. We have dogs.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
No, no, no. Boundary Waters. Yeah, that's it. In places like that, it makes sense.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Valid. They had mounds, man. I know. Gom for 501 says, I just want a 6'5 to 7'1 goth woman with 11 inch wide thighs to loudly degrade me for being shorter than her in public malls. Is that so bad? No, you'd get along really well with Wendigo. Not to kink shame. But I think somebody should kink shame you. The tall Gotham one, no problem there. The degrading, are you okay?
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three years ago that's insane that's nuts anyway the moistologist for 20 bucks says have you guys ever heard of the ray riviera case it's almost like he just fell out of the sky weird he was looking into joining a masonic lodge just a few days before oh by the way i'm a wayfaring man myself ah good to know um yeah i i've heard a bunch of stuff about it i've never looked too deeply into it that should probably go on the list this reminds me of uh stephen kabaki
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We do, in fact, have the boy and the girl.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
That one was actually a weird one. Well... Wasn't it? It definitely seemed weird.
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Yeah, there's no reason for us to do that. No, it's stupid.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Especially considering if he actually fell out of the sky, could very literally be Boeing.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Wait, did you say Phil or Phil? Isn't it Thelonious Monk? Thelonious Monk. Is it Thelonious Monk? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
I think Thelonious Monk is something as well. Yeah, I think so. Based on Thelonious Monk.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Scatman John was pretty ball. Oh my God. Just go to the next question. Anyway. Well, I didn't get to ask, ask this one. Would you rather try to escape from Ruby Ridge or Mount Carmel during their significant events? You have full alphabet aggro in both.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
It's going to be pretty.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Gom for 502, which is a great engine displacement number, says, fun fact, the Aidens once spent a weekend in Dubai making out sloppy style covered in oil in 2021. We did. You can find the video online. Okay. Good luck. But it's there. Skeletal Commissar for $2 says, please fix the most recent weird Bible. It's on my list. It's coming. It's on my list. The Vagabond gave us two bucks.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Chip with a hand grenade said, if I design a log pusher shirt, will you sell it? Yeah.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
We're really doing a horrible job about working with bunker to like market our stuff. Yeah. Yeah. We're also doing a horrible job of giving you guys stuff on. We just don't have time trying.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Yeah. Well, you did the You Sell My Drink streams, too.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
uh alex corp asks i'm in the process of going into the fbi intern program for summer 2026 might end up in pa near y'all be afraid for your new channel fed arrives i was gonna say we've got a new fed on the way yeah i if you become a fed we're gonna have to discuss whether or not you can be a mod depends on yeah depends on what you're doing i suppose yeah
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Anyway, Arbor Irrigation Installer for $6.50, there's my dyslexia coming in again, says, why does practically every country have lore about a quote-unquote crybaby hollow or crybaby bridge where a mother and baby drowned in the river? I...
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Yeah. That's kind of my theory on the smiley face stuff.
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Of either something bad happening or I think the majority of the cases are men being idiots and going to pee in water and not coming out.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Kind of like how much we learned that one time we did Drunk Folklore Live.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
I do think Riley probably was.
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That'd be cool. That'd be good. pie is a new member thank you thank you gom says first super chat of the stream let's go ghost 2279 Sorry, my allergies are bad. For 1111 said, I got my lift lodge shirt a few weeks ago. I love it. It is a very comfy shirt. Keep up the great work. Right? Thank you.
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Yeah, it's pretty baller. Trash Talks for $5, which is a pretty cheap amount to get Trash to Talk, says, I'm now officially licensed to haul anything up to and including three tanker trailers full of materials I can't super chat about. Celebrate with me. Let's go. I'm so glad you can haul. That's got to be fun. Do you have your own truck?
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If you have your own truck, let me know what it is because I want to find out. Matthew Wurtenberger for $4.99 says, I'm currently in college in social. I'm taking History 7. I'm in SoCal. Oh, SoCal. Yeah, you're right. I'm taking History 7, American History, up to 1877. I'm surprised by how many or how based my professor is. Shout out, Professor Hopkins. That doesn't shock me at all.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Happy for Professor Hopkins. U.S. History up to 1877? Sounds like you could only be based.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Or slaves. We did one good thing for them.
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Is there anything you'd like to talk about, Flaw? Continue on. AskLore for $5 says, It is once again time to remind you muscular Christianity is a thing.
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Chin-ups for Jesus. Yeah. Chin-ups for Christ. There we go. Yeah.
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Yeah, it's true. We can. Lift for the Lord. We have the technology.
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Oh, I had to reload. Now I got to scroll. You might scroll back too far there, brother. Yeah, just a tad. Brother. Oh, here we go. This just keeps getting longer. Good God. Autismosaurus. Autismosaurus. There we go. For 666. What a name. Says, any progress on giving your community us a name? Also, how far back can you two trace your family trees? Anything interesting?
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
I'm amazed that we even have the pieces still.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
At one point, one of my lines supposedly went back to William the Conqueror, which is kind of cool.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
I don't know how accurate that one is. Anyone from Ireland, we get back to whoever came off the boat and maybe their parents. The Germans, we get all the way back to Germany. They first showed up here Actually, that's a cool story.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
My great-great-great-great-grandfather, or however many greats it is, who came over from Germany in 1765, joined the Revolutionary War, was taken as a POW, and then his wife was living in a home in Pennsylvania. The British showed up, burnt her house down, and she watched it with her children from their field.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
So she went and found my, however many greats, grandfather's commanding officer in the Continental Army and said, hey... where is my husband? And they're like, oh, he's been taken by the British. He ended up being taken for two years. And she was like, well, can you take care of us? And so she ended up staying with the army. What's that? Can you untake him?
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Um, and she ended up staying with the army, uh, and they were taking, she took care of them. Uh, and apparently, uh, she was one of the people who in Valley Forge and some of the other battles, um, uh,
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was one of the individuals who, or one of the women, I should say, who was running ammunition and water back and forth from the, you know, the rear lines all the way up to the front to take care of people. And apparently that was like the origin of the Molly Pitcher stories, was the women who did that. So that's pretty cool.
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And then everyone in that line of my family then fought in every American conflict from the revolution up to, I think, either the Gulf War, or Vietnam. Um, yeah, no, it was cool. Yeah. Cool little, cool little familial history there.
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Yeah, we were going to use it to fund the third floor studio. And we just kind of did that. Yeah, we just kind of did it. Because we finally had actually saved up enough to do it. Yeah. Anyway. Anyway. Moving on. DuoBlackRose for five bucks says, Are you aware of what's going on with Angry Cops, Unsub, and the Buffalo School District? I have vague... Oh.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Oh, the other funny thing about just how Irish I am. So that man, I think his name was Peter Stilvagen. Oh, yeah. He had many line of sons up until my grandmother, all with the last name Stilvagen. A very virile man. Yes. Every single Stilvagen son from that point down to me married an Irish woman.
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It was a German man, came to the US, fought in the revolution, and his entire lineage of sons married Irish women. And my dad's grandparents came off the boat, Ireland. This is my mom's side. So like, I am, while also being somewhat English and German, about as Irish as a non-Irish person in America can get. Or I guess, you know what I mean. Yeah. Anyway.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Able326 for $2 says, your FBI agent redacted your response. Yep. Brutal. Chimp says, we are the log pushers. That's like specific to your channel, though. Specific to my channel, yeah. I push logs, but with one of these. And Railroader. Okay. Holly Stavinsky for $1.99 says, Please cover the Connecticut serial killer. Which one? Is there a particular one? Great question.
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We'll have to just look into all of them. I guess so. Matthew Wartenberger for $4.99 says, You guys and the fat electrician have surprisingly helped me more than once in the class, and I'm going to go listen to Sabaton now.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Fair. JMo is recommending that for Blobfest, instead of Monday, we should have the live on Sunday so we could have a live audience. Potentially. Could make that happen. Could find a way to make that happen.
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uh elena de howler werewolf queen from 999 says number one did no one catch that burke said i know what happened in the reference to his sister i would have jumped on that and number two do you take game suggestions and three would you take collab suggestions i feel like we would take suggestions on anything yeah basically anything and yeah we i thought we talked about burke we did yeah yeah yeah and the friday one
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Yeah, we talked about it on Friday, and then we talked about it in the debrief.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Yeah. Matthew Wertenberger for five bucks says, Side note, you guys remember DJ Hero or Guitar Hero? I'm playing Guitar Hero with you guys in the background with Calc HW piling up. That's amazing.
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I could never do the guitar in Guitar Hero, which is ironic considering I can't play guitar.
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Yeah. Gom says, I will be hunting the Wendossian Valley Forge during Blobfest. Any blue snow shovels I can borrow? Plus, I will bring presents and stuff to be signed. Nice. We probably should plan on having the Sharpies for... Probably, yeah. A silver and a black one. Mm-hmm. Just in case. Yeah, don't... There's not... Valley Forge isn't very big.
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You're not going to find anything.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Anyway, yeah. We actually started the show. Yeah.
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CJ says, come to Rocky Horror in Pittsburgh. We probably could do that. If they would be willing to host us.
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Really? Yeah. As a musician and singer, that surprises me. Interesting. I guess I technically did grow up on them.
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Like my aunts and stuff had me watch like Annie and Sound of Music and stuff like that when I was younger.
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Sound of Music's good. I'm sure it is. Chicago's good. I gotta rewatch that.
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Yeah, fair. Yeah, people in a high school really just were going nuts over Hamilton.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
So when are we marching on Buffalo?
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Agreed. By far agreed. That was a great arc. But yeah, I'd be willing to do a Rocky Horror. We might have to drag this one.
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happy for you i'm so excited we're we're only doing the repairs and mild upgrades currently because you know money uh a little bit money more also just like they're busy as hell and there's just been a lot of like issues that they've discovered as they've done more that needed to be corrected so just to get it on the street again gotcha uh we're holding off on doing the the manual and four by four swap for now reasonable yep anyway uh trains and stuff
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Number 556 says, if Bigfoot existed, do you think people would capture it, tame it, and ride it into battle like we do horses, just a more vicious version?
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Somebody would. And then there would be like, a journalist would uncover it, and then there'd be rights for Bigfoot, and it'd be a whole thing.
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Yeah. Yeah. Kind of Wendussy style, but big fussy style. Oh, God.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
I hate how easily that came out of my mouth.
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Kellen said, did you burn Altoona for their sin against pizzas? No, but we also have a new sin to add to the list of culinary heinous acts.
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Nope, we hit Altoona where I got this.
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yeah i've never even that was very confused by why the food was so expensive there yeah and that was like it's a tourist attraction yeah had no i went to a tourist trap in altuna yeah and had the worst burrata ever yep it's funny because we looked at a lot well problem was most of the places were closed that was like one of the only open spots that looked vaguely good but yeah uh they put mayonnaise on on burrata uh it's weird
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Oh, yeah. It's basically an encyclopedia of every American locomotive in America that was ever made up to now.
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It's just a streamlined locomotive.
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They were actually, you know, many of the designs in robots were modeled off of streamlined locomotives from the 1930s.
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Yeah. That's a European one.
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I can tell you exactly what that was all about. Where do you look out of it?
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Oh. I'll tell you exactly what was going on. So remember how earlier today I told you that the railroads were monopolistic and kept price gouging? Yeah. Until the United States government started to subsidize the interstate highway system? Yeah. And then ridership on the railroads tanked? Mm-hmm. When it tanked, they were like, well, what do we do?
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And they were like, well, obviously we're not going to cut prices, so let's make the trains look prettier.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Okay. Yeah, they were literally like, it'll save slight amounts of fuel for the increased aerodynamic efficiency it has.
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No, probably not, actually. No, they actually, in terms of, we think Amazon is bad now. Dude, the railroads back then? People like died all the time. I believe it. And when we were at the museum, they literally would test brooms to see which ones would last the longest. So they would only supply those to their workers. Okay. They would test oranges to see which ones produce the most liquid.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
So that way they could economize their orange juice maximally on their trains. Okay, they would test like everything like ridiculous levels just to save like like portions of pennies I Can see why this failed yeah, I'd save the money theoretically, but yeah anyway The unlikely hero for 10 bucks says absolutely love what y'all do and want to thank y'all for the years of entertainment.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
No. Bad. If you were here, I would bonk you. Down boy. All good outside for four 11 said, do you feel Adderall saved your life?
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True Venus Blue Cubes for Canadian five bucks says, how can 9-11 be an inside job if the planes were outside? Well, they did go inside. See, that was a you type of joke.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Do you remember what part of my job?
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
The wildest conspiracy part of that whole story is the belief that people think it wasn't a plane that hit the Pentagon. They think it was a missile.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Well, the chat's still coming in.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Also, I will say Appalachian Mountaineer 1863, I appreciate you taking the time to actually do a genuine locomotive suggestion. And he says that Aiden is an SD70AC, average but unique. You know what? I appreciate that.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Next is... Edward the Chinchilla. What a name. Can we get an official statement from both of you about the mysterious disappearances of all American hosts of Red Thread? Resending this because I was too late last week. You guys are awesome. Well, if that's the case, we should be worried about you. I am not a host.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
How frequently are they putting out videos? Every week.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
I'm sure also he's doing a lot of stuff.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Like I currently am. Yeah, I feel that. Trains and Stuff for 666 says, would it be considered zoophilia to have a breed with Bigfoot? Probably.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Yeah, but that's assuming that they're not just a native tribe from the mountains.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Uh, I do think it's still funny from that episode. The second one of pop culture crisis, when you guys were going off about pop stars today. And I was like, did neither of you remember Britney Spears and you Googled it and you were like, Oh yeah.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Oh, that's so funny. Yeah.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
uh matthew wortenberger says also just to be edgy when dussy big daddy fetish and i don't even want to i don't nope we're not i'll keep this short because i know you're short on time uh have you ever heard the term uh gumping it father will be has not heard the term gumping it you haven't seen this clip okay i'll show you after the show that feels i feel like i just watched the clax mcbee video uh while reading that uh there now i feel like i'm part of the family incredible
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Chip with a hand grenade says things that Alex Jones was right about video. Oh, God. Really? Nothing. He was on to a couple things.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Like the first sentence, you're like, okay, I'm listening. And then the next six words, you're like, and I'm out.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
So what was the next one? The next one, I got to scroll back up because we reloaded. Shepard for $2 says, thoughts on the new Sabaton song?
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
The best thing about Alex Jones is how easily aggravated he gets. Oh yeah. That is him at his most entertaining.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Yeah, I feel like he didn't really have an option there.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
I can understand really getting caught up in anything.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
I know less about what company.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Oh boy. All right. Anyway, uh, Tyler Dalrymple for two to three. So what y'all think about the Helen Keller conspiracy? We've got a great story about this actually.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Yep, naturally. Did you hear the thing from Tyler?
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Yeah. Yeah, like, hearing and sight, how else do you... You have to have one of them to learn Braille. To perceive the world.
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You can't comprehend the world just by taste, feel, and smell alone.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Oh, people are telling us we need to do Helen Keller. Oh, no. Do a video on Helen Keller.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Anyway, I love this show.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Honestly, yeah. Papa Ginji is a new member. What a name. I know. Thank you. Freddie Correa, for five bucks, says, Have you guys ever heard of the cold case in Springfield, Massachusetts about Achim Bailey went missing and was found in a body of water, no arrests made?
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Achim Bailey. How the hell do you spell Achim? A-C-H-I-M. Also, Winters King in the chat just said, wasn't the whole thing with Helen Keller that the nurse made her family, the nurse made her family hired, spent years teaching her how to communicate?
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
I mean, I guess if you're just like, taking someone's hand on something and just, like, put it on a chair and run it across the word chair in braille just continuously. Do that with mashed potatoes.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Pencil. Grab pencil. I'm starting to see it now, actually.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
she she had complex thoughts aiden you start that young enough i'm uh you know what call me call me a believer i'm starting to see it we do a debate on whether or not helen keller was a real thing i'll i'll have to actually learn how to debate first yeah that might help yeah i never took debate or anything in high school i just like to argue with people yeah i just like to be a problem
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
No, I do, like, I don't know, because you learn enough things. I mean, that's what life is. And, you know, you have thoughts, because she's alive. So the more you... That is interesting, though. Do you think in dots at that point? How do you teach her the word the? When it precedes objects? So the chair, we'll look into it. We'll look at, there's more questions. I'm seeing the logic.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Um, yeah, I don't know how I didn't think of this when we first thought, talked about this, but yeah, I'm thinking that doing it with you would be dumping it. All right. Anyway, um, trains and stuff back again for five 45 says I'm going to buy dog collars for the boys and the tags will say owned by pussy and owned by milk.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Where is he? He's just right there. Oh, there he is.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Incredible. You said his name. He was like, is it my time?
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
SnakebiteSam for five bucks says, Hello, Mattis. In an early episode of Weird Bible, you mentioned your belief that the Philistines were the Sea People. Can you explain why? Members of the Sea People. I was going to say, we did talk about the Sea People in the one I'm currently editing.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Well, it's the one you tried to talk about it.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
She lived until she was 87. Yeah. She was deaf, not leprous. No, I know, but I don't think you can fake it that long.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
We might have to do a Helen Keller episode, although somebody did just say if JonBenet effed up the algorithm, Helen Keller video would destroy it. Which, thank you, Alan.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
amazing um bepple for five dollars says national native american heritage month is november what if y'all talked about the time alcatraz was occupied you mean like when it was a prison no when it was i guess occupied by native americans from november 20th 1969 to june 11 1971 didn't know that was a thing didn't neither did i look into it yeah he's so good Trash Talks for $2.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
If y'all haven't noticed, it's going to be a much more, I mean, it's already a pretty casual show, but it's going to be a much more casual show because we didn't really know what we were going to talk about.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Man, it's getting cheaper and cheaper to talk to trash. Has the Matussi contemplated Vyvanse over Addies?
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Kel in the official data for 499 says, we have been to the bottom of the Marianas Trench a number of times, including one James Cameron. Suck it, G the Pooh. But we haven't touched it with our hands.
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Yes. I see why you're asking them to do that now.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Do you know what would happen if you touched your hand to the bottom of the Marianas Trench?
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
I was going to say, do you remember the Titan sub?
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That's why I figured you were, you know, all about it.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Again, so the government. Yeah.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
And a Guatemalan place. We got to go to the Mexican restaurant. It's literally called. La Patrona? No, no, no. The Mexican restaurant. It's just called the Mexican restaurant. It's in the middle of town.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
It was meant to be. Yeah.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Yeah, yeah, yeah. We got to check it out.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
I've only had their chips, but they were good.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Mostly for drinks. Edward the Chinchilla for $11. Amazing. Says, I remember Aiden mentioning how he didn't like Catholic or Orthodox or Protestant churches in your area or something. I don't know. Will the ranch develop its own not cult-like religion? No, it'll be a cult. Oh, it won't be a cult. which means it will be a cult.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
But will they have... Oh, what's the term? I literally just said it earlier. Apostolic succession. Oh, absolutely. Okay, all right, good. No. I feel like there's an and coming. No, no. All right. ZayJH3, pause. Did you see any of the whole Idub's H3H3 thing that happened in the last couple weeks?
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
It was like, it felt like 2016 was being wrung out to dry.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
I think so. He had a very big, like,
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
For someone who has consumed YouTube as long as it exists or has existed, I don't know a lot of people.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
I mean, it tracks for Sabaton.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Whoa. Yeah. Oh, so this guy sucks, sucks.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Incredible. Yeah. Also, yeah, so apparently iDubbbz made a content cop for the first time in like a decade, and it was on Ethan Klein.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
I don't know anything about Hassan.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Ah, interesting. Okay. Yeah. The only elements of H3 I've ever seen are from other people talking about him.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Remember, guys, if you watch a YouTuber and it feels like they don't go outside, they probably don't.
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And, you know, like reminders that we're not the only people in the world.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
And that nobody in town really knows or cares who we are.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
I've intentionally flown under the radar and it's paying dividends.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
But the nice thing is that you all are so good that when you do recognize us, you're just like, oh, hey, dude, what's up?
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Oh, yeah. ZayJH3 for $5 says, the Discord and mentioning you guys talking about JonBenet got me out of a two-week jury duty, so thanks.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
i'm assuming people in the discord gave you suggestions on how to get out of jury duty was it when i told him that he should just say he's racist when he gets to jury duty selection i gotta say i do hope that i can serve on jury duty at some point okay i i just hope if i have to do it it's for a case that's at least interesting yeah 100 but like it's kind of one of those paid forward things of like
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
If I were on the hot seat, whether as a defendant or prosecution, I would want somebody who wants to be there and somebody willing to actually sit and listen and be fair. So in my mind, I'm like, if I refuse to do that, how can I ask that of my fellow people?
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Yeah. Chip with a hand grenade says band name Preachers of the Milk.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Yeah. Griff for $10 says, you two are all for Dean's 1911 and Sam's Beretta. Who gets which? Bonus, you can have any weapon from the Impala's trunk. Which do you take? No grenade, launcher aid. See, the funny thing is that I'd go for the 1911 purely because that's what I shoot best.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Yeah, I mean, Beretta's a nice gun. I think it's a 92, right?
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
I gotta know what the... I'm assuming there's a key change in there somewhere.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
I mean, I dig the sawed-off shotgun.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Yeah. And if you're taking that, maybe I'd take the... It's been a while since I saw the show.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
One of the machetes they use for decapitating vampires. Oh, yeah. Those were cool. Oh, no. Duh. This counts. The sword. The angel sword. Ooh, yeah. If they had the Colt. Yeah. Oh, my God. Yeah, 100%. If the Colt was there, absolutely. They did technically have Mjolnir for a while.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Yeah. There's the stakes. A lot of it... A lot of the else is just, like, accessories. Oh, the Demon Blade was pretty cool. But if I'm doing the Angel Sword, it kind of trumps it anyway. So... exile and throne said Aiden's with a sawed off equals pushes with attitude.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
I'm not even sure. I know what that means. Sure. I know what that means either, but it sounds fun. Um, Eric for five bucks says, can Mattis talk about what denominations he's considering and why I feel like you have.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
That reminds me. I got a text during the show that my uncle's brother, who is a pastor for a pretty large church in Florida, is going to be up here doing a service. All right. And he has previously mentioned that he'd be interested and willing to do a Weird Bible episode. Yeah, that'd be great. Yeah, we might be able to do that sooner than later.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Kira's Dollhouse Sweets Crochet, who has been a member for 17 months, which is pretty awesome, says gifted and talented education was CIA. Which kind of tracks, because, like, they probably wanted to be able to hire people.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Yeah. And it also weeds out people, so that way you can kind of, you know, pick the best and brightest.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Matt, see, you're 100% right. It will be a History Unhinged podcast where we do the topic, and then we never talk about the topic.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Yeah. A hundred percent. Matthew Wordenberger for four 99 says moth Mussie and the tone Mathis just took Hawkins Harkins, the visage of Hunter of the meaty Canyon.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Swiftly along, Kay Burles for $9.99 says, hear me out. Drunk ghost hunters.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Y'all get super loaded and talk mad smack to the ghosts and be super bro the whole time. Like bar fight Jersey Shore ghost hunting. Are you in? I'm in. Honestly.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
And like lacrosse pennies.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Perfect. I am sorry I'm going to mispronounce this name for sure. Jedrzej Brzezinski.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Well, no, it is PLN.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Yeah, so hello from Poland. I'm so good. This is awesome. Yeah. Welcome. Welcome. Says, hey, lads. I thought Poland used the euro. I would have thought that too. And he says, hey, lads, what do you think about the Les Stroud experiences in Survivorman Bigfoot? It's the Polish Zloty. That's sweet. Yeah. I first drove a stick shift in Poland.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
I was editing the next one again this morning a little bit, and it's great. It's the one where we all bonk ourselves.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
If there's anybody who I'd want to watch who's doing anything related to Bigfoot, it's Les Strout.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
He would probably find it, and then have dinner with it, and then just peace out. He might romance it. No, no, I think Bigfoot would try to romance Les Strout. That's true. And he'd be like, I'm sorry, I have a wife.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Yeah. Anyway, PapaGinji for five bucks says, Did y'all hear about the cop who's exposing the buffaloes? Oh, wait, yeah. How many times have we talked about this? Duo Black Rose for five bucks says, clearly you missed that several high-level ATF agents responsible for the most egregious policies have been fired with no way back.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
This is good to know. I didn't realize they instated Brandon at the top.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
He's pretty cash money.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Matthew Wernberger for five bucks says, Also the acting director of the ATF for a while. Oh, gotcha. He says, I don't know what it is. I don't know what it means. I just read it.
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Whatever you say, Boomer.
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Zoomer, yeah, there it is, yep.
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I really don't spend a lot of time on the internet. No, you don't. Miss Moria for $2 says, if you write a book on the Nahanni, I'd buy it, please. I mean, I have the material. Yeah. Tyler Domeropoulos says, been collecting bones for a bone tree you want? We don't know. What happened to the bone tree guy?
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Last one, it was a little tough getting enough stuff for the intro montage. I'm guessing this time it wasn't hard. No, it's almost already done, and I'm only like 15 minutes into the episode. Oh, my God. Yeah.
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So wait, no, because he found the bone tree and then he was like, yeah, I removed them. And we were like, we told you explicitly not to do that. Like, don't do that. Put the bones back, man. Yeah, he put them back and then he never came back, I guess. I guess. Well, no, because he told us he put the bones back.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
People in the chat are like, bone tree? Yeah, this is old lore.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
No. No, we were in your first... that apartment.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Oh, his boss removed the bones. Thank you, Count Patsling. It was Will S., Oh, yes.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
And the Patreon one was supposed to go up Friday, but Patreon did not process it properly, so... Anywho, they're both up now. We both messed up. Yeah, it happens. That's why we're very... What's the word for that? We gave each other a lot of grace.
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You know what else takes me back? Everybody's putting milk in the chat.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
I know. Yeah, I wasn't expecting that one in there.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
So down. It's a baby bottle milk. Baby bottle pop? Yeah, I do. Whoa.
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This sounds... Very applicable. This sounds allegorical almost. It wasn't. I know. I know. But it's just... Anyway. Warsage for Canadian $2 says, Aidan Madison, The Curse of Oak Island.
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MrLeroy42 for $4.99 says, Have you heard of the Mad Trapper of Rat River? Back in 1932, the RCMP got into a shootout and the manhunt of a mysterious man by the name of Albert Johnson.
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Yeah, that sounds familiar for some reason. Why does it sound like it's related to Nahanni?
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Brian Wagner for 350 says, where is the response to my email, you goobers? Pull it up, pull it up.
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Yeah, I had that there just in case anybody brought up trains, and I was going to be like, yeah, I actually went to Altoona and went to the museum and got the best... Just in case anybody brought up trains. Best encyclopedia of trains. I've learned a lot already, because I may know a lot about trains, but not as much as other people. And I'll tell you what...
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Oh, yeah, I was trying to explain to him about shotguns and game lands around here. Could you remind me which counties are yes and no on rifles around here?
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Also, do you want to go get bows for bow hunting season? Because I'm going to do that this year.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Definitely in relation to what was already said on Friday.
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Do you know how much further compound bows go and like how much stronger they are?
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30, 40. Yeah, but they're... To my understanding... Hang on.
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I mean, that's Reddit.
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Yeah, they multiply the force like a ton.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
I mean, I'm sure... Here's the thing. For most compound bow shooting, though, you're not shooting in an arc. You're shooting straight out.
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So if you were shooting in an arc, I'm sure that you could shoot pretty far. Maybe. Listen, listen. Maybe.
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i i an hour of reading last night and just skimming through and i've i've learned a lot more than than i thought i could at this stage just just read the next question whatever the next question is gonna just read it uh kellen says glim
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Now I'm curious. Theoretically, a compound bow could send an arrow to a very long distance, potentially exceeding a thousand yards, depending on draw rate, arrow weight and bow efficiency. However, for practical purposes, especially for hunting, the effective range is significantly shorter between 20 and 40 meters. That's shocking to me. Well, cause think about it.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Cause like a long bow, you weren't like the whole point was you were arcing into another mass of people.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
For compound bow hunting, you're trying to aim for like the heart of a deer. I know. Yeah, people like this, another Reddit archery thing. Somebody says, like, a 50-pound compound bow will outshoot a 200-pound longbow. They just look like cheating.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Yeah, but that's how you get a draw weight of like five pounds and an effective launching weight of like 100.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Somebody said apparently Dude Perfect got a shot on target at 330 yards. That's insane. Yeah. All right, I had to reload, so now I gotta... Anyway, Chip with a Hand Grenade for five bucks says, my district superintendent got hired from Buffalo earlier this year. She was the assistant superintendent in Buffalo for DEI. Wonder what she knows.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
I don't know. Interesting.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
My district superintendent got hired from Buffalo earlier this year. She was the assistant superintendent in Buffalo for DEI. Wonder what she knows.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Yeah, that'd be cool. Ellen is back for 10 bucks saying, number one, do you take video location suggestions? Number two, more history slash folklore segments. When three, any other videos you want to redo and PS take my donations for treat money for humans and dogs. Thank you. We've got a whole list of videos we want to do.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
um yeah but we'll definitely take suggestions i would always like suggestions and the more information you can include with the suggestion the better yeah yeah i think we're thinking about redoing well we're gonna do dlf pass as a single video at some point yeah um we'll probably do arteria arteria once john bonet is done that'll get that'll be one long thing um
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
we were considering, Oh, maybe a full Dennis Martin video just to have that all together in one location for everybody. Cause that's like a hot button missing four on one topic. And we have two videos on it. Plus the, the meta analysis where we were actually in Spence field. Yeah. So it'd be good to have that all together. Um, yeah, there's a bunch.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
And then, yeah, we take suggestions on pretty much anything. Forrest Stolo for $9.99 says, Thank you for unknowingly inspiring me to pursue my dreams of becoming a history professor. My question is, would you guys be interested in covering the Uruguayan Air Force Flight 571? Sure. I gotta look it up. We're already supposed to be covering Flight 800 and MS-17 at some point. Um...
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
So yeah, we can totally add that to the list. Cave coding. I don't know. Let me scroll up. Thank you for adding us in the chat. So I would not miss that. I just scrolled all the way to the top. I didn't see. Huh. Maybe we did. Would we do a video on Jack Parsons? He's similar to Chan Thomas in that there are conspiracies inspired from him founding JPL and being a weirdo. I mean, yeah.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Yeah, that'd be cool.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Yeah, some people in the chat are excited about us potentially doing more aviation, so it might be a good idea to mix one of them in at some point. A real cartel pilot for $10.22 says, will the totally not cult ranch have a group when Dussie hunts? Kool-Aid or Jell-O shots? Archie idolatry? We need answers, Aidens. Long time viewer, first time chatter. It's Wendigoon's fault.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Yeah. Arbor Irrigation Installer for 5.56. Nice. Says... Hang on. Oh, wait. We got three in a row. Okay.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
We appreciate that you've come over from the light side. Yeah, I mean, I don't know about the hunts, but definitely Jell-O shots. Archie idolatry? Possibly. Probably.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Of course he does. Look at him.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
He's just, he's got the yips.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Stid gave us $20 for an okay sign. Thanks. She hawk for 20 bucks says, love the content lads of the lore that lodges. Uh, have there been any video games that have history in them? Like red dead two, that would be interesting to cover. Like how Brandon did the guns.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Ooh, I think there are some like until dawn, I guess we could do like historical audits or folklore audits to see how accurate certain things are. Yeah. It'd be cool.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Fair. Michael Elmore for five bucks has been looking at joining an NC branch of the Freemasons. If I fail to get into at the local branch, am I exempt from all other branches?
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Regarding a certain mustached Austrian artist and his one-star campgrounds, I can't find many credible original sources supporting the traditional narrative, but I've seen a lot of examples like the Red Cross suggesting the campgrounds didn't have as many visitors as claimed or that it was actually a two-star experience.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
That's good. We like that. Jason One Life for Canadian $10 says off topic question. I know you're a man of faith. How do you reconcile your belief in God given that you've covered and investigated so many heinous acts by people? Love your stuff. Keep it up. I'm technically an agnostic.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
That's just not biblically accurate.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
And the other thing is, like, there are much better arguments for God not existing than bad people existing, considering, like, if we're just going biblically, everywhere there's horrible people at every stage of the Bible.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
both prior to and after christ yep like it's people doing horrible things is just the nature of the world whether god exists or not yeah i mean one of the biggest issues with people that are either agnostic or struggling with their faith even though they are of some you know christian faith is the fact that um oh shit where was i going with that no just the idea that like
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Essentially, it was going to be along the lines of them trying to accept that God would make a world where people can be so bad. That's what it was.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
The only way that would make sense is if there was not an afterlife. Yeah.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Also, Mom, to be fair, so you're not upset at me, I am a host on a Bible podcast. I'm just an unending skeptic on everything. I'm working on him. I'm massaging it.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
I like my Bible. I read it. It's got my name on it.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Matthew Wernberger for 20 bucks says, as an educated historian, what are the chances you could intern a history major college student from a local college? Even if not official, you guys are noteworthy and famous enough to be a major thing on a resume. I still don't consider us famous.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Would you all make a video explaining the traditional narrative with original sources and debunking the deniers?" debunking holocaust deniers might not be a horrible yeah because like you can basically just have the cold open be do we really need to do this can we stop yet can we just not do this it would actually be a pretty sick dunk to pull a tartaria one but on holocaust deniers
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Yeah, I mean, we keep talking about it.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
uh mr leroy 42 for five bucks says case suggestion was hh holmes jack the ripper two infamous cases of serial killers in the late 1800s that some people think could be connected yeah i can look into that i can't believe i haven't done a jack the ripper video yet we were talking about it yeah just wild that hasn't occurred to me to really do yeah That's the thing.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
There's still plenty of stuff out there.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
No, I know. Michael P. for 50 bucks. Thank you very much. Says, love for you to do a video on TWA 800. Yep. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's still plenty of key witnesses and investigators around. All the witnesses, including a major in the Air National Guard, saw a missile heading for the plane. Keep up the great work, gentlemen. It was what? TWA?
The Lore Lads
The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
This is just Flight 800, the one that was likely shot down over Russia, I believe. No, that's MH17.
The Lore Lads
The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Again, we got to cover it at some point.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Anyway, Aaron Higginbotham for $5 says, hey guys, love what you're doing and thanks to you and Wendigoon, I am looking into the Christian faith and reading the Bible again.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
What? Just making a point. Just silently making a point. What point?
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
But, you know, it's fine. Love you. Anyway, Stealthy Noctow for 762 Nice says, checking in from Wyoming. Gross. Come on.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
After Yellowstone, are there any plans to visit the West again? Colorado has many amazing spots to check out. I've been there many times. I can't wait to go back more. I still haven't been to the Southwest yet.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Yeah. Yeah, that'd be cool.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Why? Just for the JonBenet thing? Yeah. Okay.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Yeah. Yeah. That'd actually be good. We could visit some of the locations. Yeah. I'm surprised we haven't thought of that before. That'd actually be really good. Um, five star five, five, five, five for five, four, 45.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Four 99. Wow. That was bad. Five star five, five, five for four 99. There we go. Uh, says my little brother used to watch David politis, but I converted him into a lodge believer.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
That's true, and we, you know.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
We are cultivating the cult. Cultivating, exactly. We're cultivating. Yeah, well done. Proud. Oh, hell yeah. Amazing. That's a SCP reference. Dale Davis for five bucks says, aside from your live shows, do you ever do any in-person meet and greets?
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
We'd love to. The problem is that would require us figuring out what opportunities for meet and greets we have.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
But we definitely, we technically can talk to WME because we're supposed to be doing that.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Do people just not know about us?
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
I mean, it'd be fun. Yeah. We can do that. We're thinking about doing that with a certain September event.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
maybe it's because we say bigfoot's a yeah american tribe and and that like that's possible we we are we are the this the scooby gang we're scooby natural oh good god you're right we need to be more ghost facers yeah that's the problem the ghost facers get invited to stuff exactly we don't no
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Because I don't know they exist. And that's just because I don't spend a lot of time on the internet.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
And your entire argument is that you want to get a super fund or a, what is the proper terminology for, no, a super PAC together to support Mothman for running for president in 2028. Yeah.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
The Wendigo is the Secretary of the Interior.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Mothman 2028, enforce the rule.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
I like it. um we're almost there uh our irrigation installer for 545 says um okay this is going to be a two-parter twunk aiden why don't you accept the contextual agricultural or sorry cultural not agricultural and linguistic arguments that scripture affirms lifelong monogamous gay relationships um What? I'm just curious and won't get offended. We British gay men still love you.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
I guess you're twunk, Aiden. Why don't you accept the contextual, cultural, and linguistic arguments that scripture affirms lifelong monogamous gay relationships?
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Affirms? Could you give, could you, could you give chapter and verse please?
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
We'll find out. Okay. Gaylord Zepikowski. Yeah, I read both.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Join my first live in here. You think Kanye is a cryptid? Now this is solid content. I hope I can become a cryptid myself one day. Well, considering it takes the pipeline of events like what Kanye followed, I don't know if you do.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Pseudo legend for 20 bucks says, Hi, lads.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Oh, that's the British part.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Yep. Hi, lads. Does time and donating love the work?
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
I don't know. Okay. Well, anyway, continue. Love the work. Random question. If you could have any dinosaurs as a pet, what would it be? You're going to know this better than I will.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
As I'm a trained kid, he was a dinosaur kid.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Yeah, that's valid. I think it's... Is it... Ankylosaurus?
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Yeah, that's... The tail club? Yep. Yeah, I got a stuffed one of that for Cat for Christmas. Yeah.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Oh, oh, oh, oh, got it. Yeah, I'm thinking of the sail. Told you. Yeah, I was thinking of... Don't question me. No, I know. No, but I was thinking of Spinosaurus. I haven't studied this stuff since I was seven. You know what I mean, Spinosaurus? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whatever Nessie was.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
I love it. What's the one from Jurassic World? My God. Is Amanda gumping it? Yes. No, what's the one from Jurassic World, the big aquatic one? Icthyosaur? Let's check it.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
That's what I wanted to check. Yeah. Or Megalodon, considering that's technically a... Bro, sharks are old as hell. I know, isn't it crazy?
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
What else we got? Uh, Lisa for four 99 with the first one from after seven 45. So we'll leave that there. It says, love your channel. Keep up the great work. Would you ever consider covering the JFK assassination? Well, yep. Yes. Also, I'm going to check to see if we have any big ones.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Do they realize how many different movies, television shows, posters, postcards, images, home videos, newsreels?
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Tim J 94 for 20 bucks says, if you guys do a weird Bible episode that deals with biology in some way, I'd like to recommend Roanoke gaming as a guest for that. Since you guys have him, have had him on the lore lodge. If you guys do more guests on the weird Bible, that is, I think we'd love to do more.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
yeah definitely also that's why I was thinking Atheosaur oh gotcha I couldn't totally remember what the one from Jurassic World looked like also her royal pain for 10 bucks is saying Mattis this is no question but a humble request hit the Dean Winchester pudding please remember season 6 psych ward pudding yeah pudding oh god Yeah, we really have watched that show a lot.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Gotta do that in Pennhurst. Yes, yes, 100%. EB202nd for 20 bucks says, I'm late, sorry, got partially drunk at the bar. Nope, no problem.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Incredible. No. Bad. Bad. Only question for the Lore Lodgers as I lore my lodge. What is your opinion on the Eye of Africa Rykat structure being the source of Atlantis? No. No. Why not?
The Lore Lads
The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
I know nothing about Jimmy Corsetti.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Do we even such an underutilized word in this?
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Asmodeus for 20 bucks says, I just saw the notification for the stream. Have either of you seen the movie Spiderwick Chronicles? Also, here's a few ideas for what to call us. Milk Mercs, Devout Dairy Drinkers, Lodgekin, Lore Keepers, Shovel Squad. I like Shovel Squad.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Yeah. It's so niche and it's so early.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
I just realized it was quarter to ten.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Yep. Ceaseless Searching for 1234 says, Piggybacking off the comment about Alcatraz, read an indigenous people's history of the United States by Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz. It is an amazing book, a lot of sad things, but educational.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
And last one, Violently American, what a one to end it on, says, What are your thoughts on Robert Hellion's, author of Starship Troopers, depiction of polyamorous Way past 745. Yeah, just for the high-level ones.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Yeah, I went anything 10 and above after 745.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
All right. Depiction of polyamorous marriage in his book The Moon is a Harsh Mistress. Wait, what? Violently American for 10 bucks says, what are your thoughts on Robert Hellion's, the author of Starship Troopers, depiction of polyamorous marriage in his book The Moon is a Harsh Mistress? I haven't read it. Neither have I. This is the first I'm hearing of it.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Are you sure this isn't just people... No, this is a real thing. They're not just ironically into the whole anime tank girls?
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Will S. said something. Where? Will S. said something? Yeah. Where? It's right above it. Hang on. Hang on, hang on, hang on. Y'all, this is the first live show I've tuned into in almost a year and all of a sudden I'm hearing my own story get read. That was weird. You're alive. We were worried.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
i'm just glad you're okay yeah you gotta give us an update will yeah man you can't just pop in here and not tell us what happened send us an email yeah we uh yeah we brought it up a few times in the last year and yeah i don't know i can't remember why we brought it up tonight but uh yeah what was the book by the way called uh the moon is a harsh mistress
The Lore Lads
The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
just to show also William apologies it's just that for things after 745 that were like a pretty decently high numerical value we would have felt bad not answering them we feel bad not answering all of them um but again this is we're approaching the third hour of this show uh so we will do our best to address ones that we missed tonight in the future um
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Oh yeah, apparently that's a thing.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
But yeah, we will also send more reminders or say more reminders in the shows.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
That would be smart.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Your ladies are going to be so mad. Yeah, I'm not going for the walk I was hoping to do. I'm just going home.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
He just said, fair, keep up the good work.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
I'm excited. Also, Bundy, yes, you got mentioned. Because you made a good, relevant thing that I saw. I just happened to see it. Also, Will S. just said, you're good, guys. I have no updates, sadly. We did joke about them once and suddenly had random voices coming out of nowhere. So, yeah, we kind of just leave them alone, and we usually get left alone, too. The one person who listens.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
So glad that you are well.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
No, we thought this was going to be a short one.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
So... Not from that bottle.
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The Lore Lads Invite You To Ask Us Anything | Podcast Episode 167
Yeah, no, are we considering the first mission to go around the moon?
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Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Sir Francis Drake's belief about what the etymology of Patagonians was.
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Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
He thought it was supposed to be penta, and then he thought that gonies, for some reason, meant cubits. Yeah. I did have somebody comment that penta is a prefix that can mean five in Spanish. It comes from Greek, so it's been transliterated in Spanish. Penta itself... is a transliterate, a transliterative term.
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Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
So if you were assuming that they were going for a Spanish language thing, you would think that they would have gone with something that was closer to Cinco. That was not to say that Penta can't be used in Spanish at all, but rather I would expect if they were going Spanish or Portuguese, then the term they would use would have been related to Cinco rather than Penta.
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Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
But he thought that Penta, he thought it was Pentagones and that that meant five cubits, which is seven and a half feet. which means that Goliath being six cubits in a span puts him closer to nine or nine and a half. So Goliath is somebody who can adequately be described as a giant. Not just a tall person. That is outside the realm of human possibility, as far as we're aware.
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Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Exactly. And we're told he had a helmet made of brass. He was armed with a coat of mail. These are all probably inadequate translations, just based on the time. It probably would not have been mail in the sense we understand it today. And the weight of the coat was 5,000 shekels of brass. So he's wearing a coat that is literally like 90 pounds. Have you ever worn chain mail?
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Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
I've worn something that was heavy. I've worn aluminum chain mail. Yeah. It's like 30 pounds. Steel is like 60. This guy was wearing 90 to 100. So we're talking about a dude who's not just tall. This would be somebody with an extraordinary amount of girth as well. I'm trying to find, though, because if I remember correctly, there is a mention of his ancestry.
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Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
And for some reason, I'm not finding it. Which is driving me insane. And I'm wondering if it was a note. Yeah, so nine and three quarters feet, this guy. And oh, I have the actual exact weight here, 125 pounds of armor. Which is just insane. So the giant that we're having described in the Bible is nearly 10 feet tall. He wears armor that weighs 125 pounds.
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Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
And he carries a javelin that is basically made of a weaver's beam. And I thought we got direct mention of his ancestry in Samuel. I don't know why I'm mixing that up. But I want to contrast that with the story we get about the Patagonians. Because one thing that I see all the time is people saying we have all these accounts of giants. We have these accounts of giants in the Bible.
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Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Oh, yeah. Like, chronically online and terminally online are things that I think will be in the DSM-6.
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Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
And we have these accounts of giants from Native American stories. And we have these accounts of giants from exploratory expeditions. So if all of these people are describing giants, Aidan, surely there must be giants, right? You would think. At least they might be giants.
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Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
I think the flaw, the flaw in the argument there, is that if we look at the way that Goliath is described... Not only is he not part of a race of giants, he is one giant amongst the Philistines, which would imply that he's got some sort of special ancestry. But the Philistines themselves aren't giants. It's just Goliath.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
When we look at Magellan's forces, what they found, well, they said that there were giants, but it was an entire race of them. We go back to Kandahar, and even though that story is almost certainly fictitious, it's one solitary giant that the people around his lair are aware of.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
If we look at the Si Te Ka, which, of course, those who have seen the original video will probably know, they are not actually described as being giant by the natives. So that's a bit of an issue, but it plays into what I'm saying, which is that a lot of the accounts you're going to see online who are saying, you know, oh, they're hiding giants from us. The Smithsonian is hiding the giants.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
If you look at the details of each individual discussion on what the giants are, they vary too much to be describing the same thing, which puts us in a position where there are either multiple different races of giants existing on the planet, or we're trying to conflate things that aren't actually connected. And I think the latter is more likely the case.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
You know, I think the Bible is actually kind of interestingly unique in its description of Goliath as a giant because... It doesn't pretend to be anything else. And there's no external factors to argue with. And it's actually describing it as a giant. It's not somebody taking the mythology and expanding on it.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
The Si Te Ka, as we know, the Native American stories about them describe them as being taller than average. But it doesn't... There's no sense that they are particularly huge. Goliath is particularly huge. Yeah. I, meanwhile, we look at the Patagonian giants who are probably closer to the sea take high in every possible way in that they're described as a race. They're in the Americas.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
I, they are cannibals, um, or at least ostensibly cannibals because the rest of the people they ran into were, and yet they're described completely differently. The Patagonians are, you know, twice the height of a Spaniard, which depending on the size of a Spaniard is going to be anywhere from eight to 10 feet. Uh, The Sitaika are just tall.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Yeah, literally sit under a tree. Yeah, just sit under it. Don't bring anything. Cheeks to earth.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Now, we do have Numuzoho, who is you're going to see if you watch the video, I make an argument for how Numuzoho and all of this connects to one one mix up in the archaeological record that kind of confused everybody on the Sitaika situation. But I Numuzoho is described as being huge and he's called the people pounder.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
It's what his name means is the people pounder because he takes people and he pounds them in a mortar and pestle. But something that I noted as interesting about that story, as well as the Patagonian giant story, is that some of the things New Muzoho does don't make sense for a giant. Some of the things that the Patagonian giants do don't make sense for a giant.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
We're told that these guys are twice the size of a normal man. We're told that Numizoho is large enough to pick a fully grown person up and grind them up in a mortar and pestle. That's huge. That is legitimately gigantic. And yet, we're also told that Numizoho enters a building built by Paiutes. And yet, we're told that the Patagonian giants were able to wear a pair of manacles made for a human.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
So you get these weird inflations of size that don't actually make sense. And then I think we see the same thing with with Wendigos. You know, Wendigos are described as giants. But then when you look at it, on the one hand, they say these guys are 10 to 12 feet tall. But then they talk about them as being six feet tall, human size.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
They're I mean, a group of braves is able to go and chop one's knees off without much trouble with stone weapons. That doesn't sound like something that's 20 feet tall. That sounds like something that's kind of been magnified for some reason in the minds of the people telling the story. And then you look at you'll get the Kandahar one. And that just seems like a creepypasta.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Every single response we got from people who were actually in Afghanistan at the time was that the story was either a joke or a complete hoax. And... When you look at the background for it, it kind of feels like it has to be. Because... Nobody manages to keep the story straight and everything about it sounds more like Hollywood. I mean, I... You know what killed me with the Kandahar Giant one?
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
The thing that made it certain to me that that was a BS story. What's that? It was the guy who said he was on the mission and that a Green Beret broke cover to charge a Giant with his M4.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
There was that too. Somebody did tell me that they had heard both Chinooks and Pavelo's referred to as Jolly Green Giants. My understanding is that the term was used in the Vietnam War for whatever the precursor to the Chinook was. But so far as I can tell, it does not apply to the modern Chinook. But maybe it does. So that one definitely threw me for a loop as well.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
The idea of them having multiple .50 caliber weapons, though. .50 Beowulf, maybe. But if you're in a mission where you're not expecting to encounter... I, you know, long sight lines or vehicles. I find it hard to believe the group of Green Berets would be carrying multiple .50 caliber weapons.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
That's the other thing. The way he talked about the guns didn't work for me. It didn't sound like a Green Beret talking about their weapons. It sounded like somebody who watched Battle Los Angeles talking about weapons. But it really was the guy charging. But that's what I'm saying is with each of these stories, you kind of get something where it's, oh, OK, this doesn't make a ton of sense.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
I always feel markedly better when I come home from being in West Virginia, South Carolina, the woods in general, because I think I'm just out and about in the trees.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
You know, there's something in here that that is a clue that something in here is not the truth. I think with with the Kandahar giant story, it's the guy breaking cover with an M4. It's the way they talk about the weapons. with the Patagonian giant story. It is the, uh, the fact that normal size men were able to restrain 10 or 12 foot tall giants with their hands and tie ropes around them.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
And the fact that the human size monocles fit them and that they were able to put like normal person size clothes on. If you look at, uh, at the CTA car, There's nothing quite as blatant about it. They're just not described as giants by the Native Americans.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
That is a purely modern invention of the story that's probably based on the fact that there was a six foot six inch tall skeleton found in that cave, allegedly, which I don't believe is actually in the archaeological report. If I remember correctly, the tall skeleton was reported by Pew and Hart or potentially even just people covering the story later on. But what really does it for me
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
is the jumping into the air and catching arrows and turning around and shooting them back.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Slow enough to catch with your hands. Now, if the story gets that basic fact wrong. How likely is it that other things are not quite what they seem high? There's also the fact that in the story, we hear two different accounts of what happened. One person tells us that all of them died in the fire that happened up in that cave.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Her brother tells us they escaped and ran and joined another tribe further to the west. I'm going to let you guys hear the rest of that argument in Friday's video because I can't make it now. I have to I have to lay everything out in order for it to make sense because there's a lot of melodical stuff. There's a lot of tribal relationship stuff.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
But there's also you look at the new story and you see. You see comparisons trickle down between the two stories, and you can kind of understand how somewhere along the line, stuff from the new Zoho side of things maybe made it in to the city side of things and that it wasn't intentional. It was just kind of a mix up.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Also, there's some arguments that Sarah Winnemucca may have exaggerated her position within her tribe or her father's position within her tribe, the stories she had access to, things like that, which wouldn't be surprising. That happens all the time. It's you know, I think people get this idea in their heads that I tribal stories are more exaggerated than Western ones. They're generally not.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
It's just that oftentimes there are more accounts of a given Western story. So it's easier to see the contradictions between them. And then you can kind of work your way through them, which is what I'm doing for the Vinland video. And oh my God. For two stories that are 97% the same thing, that 3% is the most painful 3% difference I've ever seen.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Well, for example... There's this guy Torvald. And in one story, he's in both stories. He dies in both stories. He dies much in the same way in both stories. But in one story, he's Eric the Red's son. And in another story, he's Eric the Red's son-in-law. And in one story, he goes on an expedition on his own. And in another story, he's just a part of someone else's.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
That's the problem, is all of our mountains are so short that there's trees at the top.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
And in one story, he's killed during an attack by an innumerable amount of Skrælings. And in another story, he's killed by one guy who has one foot.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
And it kind of goes on like that. I think one of the big issues is everybody has this perception that Vinland is one spot. I think there are multiple Vinlands. There are so many weird things about this story. I wasted like four hours. I wouldn't say wasted necessarily, but I spent four hours looking at the map.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
And trying to figure out, based on what is said, where the hell these guys landed and how it's Lanzo Meadows. Because for those who aren't aware of the Vinland colony and how all that broke down, back in the 60s, archaeologists found a Viking settlement, basically a longhouse, at a spot called Lanzo Meadows on the northern coast of Newfoundland. Newfoundland? Newfoundland?
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Yeah, Newfoundland, I think. Anyway, point being, Newfoundland, maybe? I don't know. Every time I say it, a Canadian corrects me, and no matter how I say it, a Canadian corrects me.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
That's fair. Anyway, this place, Lanzo Meadows, it's basically a Viking longhouse. There's evidence of other artifacts there. It's not really up for debate. There was a Viking colony there, or a Norse colony, I should say. The problem is that you cannot follow the directions from the sagas and get there. And it's not like...
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
It's not like they're broadly disagreeing on what the location was, nor are they, nor does it seem vague. Like it's a little vague in that there are a few different places that match. It's that all of them mention the settlement being up a river and by the side of a lake. And that's not where Lanzo Meadows is at all. It's on the coastline.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
So, like, Leif Erikson, Torvald, Thorfinn Carlsefni, all of their settlements are described as being in places that are not Lanzo Meadows. In one account, Torvald is described as dying in a place that should be Newfoundland. And in the other one, it sounds like Labrador.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Hello, ladies and gentlemen. I hope you guys all had a less painful Sunday than I had. We had too much fun with our Mardi Gras party. I was going to say, though, that was a result of our own making. Oh, yeah, it was entirely our fault. It turns out that Celso's doing a little too good at his job. Because those drinks do not taste like alcohol at all. The Hurricane did. I didn't taste that one.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
So... Yeah, it's... Pennsylvania's beautiful, but the state's name is accurate. Yeah, there's a lot of trees. So many trees in Pennsylvania. Like, so many. Um...
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
In one, there's a place called, this is my favorite, the Torfin Carlsefni expedition, which in one account includes Torvald, and in the other account also includes a guy named Torvald who's not the same Torvald. Yeah, right? Isn't it great? But then he is somehow also the right Torvald. It's driving me insane.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
He goes west out of the western settlement in Greenland, and he stops in a place called the Bear Isles. And then he goes to Helluland. Helluland is the land of the flat stones, typically identified as Baffin Island. There are no islands between the Western Settlement and Baffin Island. Not one. Could be icebergs, maybe. That had polar bears on them, and that's why they were called Bear Islands.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
But you want to know what's great? After they reach Helluland from the Bear Islands, they go south for a couple of days and come to a place called Bear Island. Why'd they name it Bear Island, Aiden? Do you want to take a guess? Were there bears on the island? There was a bear on the island. Not bears, bear. There was a bear on the island. And that's also just southeast of Markland.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
You know what Markland means? Land of the mark. You know what the mark is? Trees. Do you know how little that narrows it down?
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Every place in Canada has trees, except the parts that don't, and those are just called Land of the Flat Rocks. All of them? Yeah, they did not write very much down.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
and hills oh yeah trees and hills it's which is why ohio bores me aiden because it's pennsylvania without the hills yeah who decided that an entire state should be flat i don't know probably the same person who designed jersey yeah you know you know what i my like clearest memory of ohio is is i was driving west and here's the thing if you're driving from like state college pennsylvania to columbus ohio you're just driving west across ohio for six hours
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
There's a reason that this is taking me days upon days upon days when the stories are themselves 20 pages long. Yeah. But anyway, they get south from Markland, and then they find Vinland. The problem is that Vinland has been identified as Newfoundland. But then they've also found coal that matches strains found in Rhode Island. And berries from Quebec.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
And according to all of the sagas, it seems like they all went to the same place, which can only, as far as we have archaeological evidence, can only be Lanzo Meadows. But you know where it says that they stayed? An island that is not that one. A smaller island, probably Belle Isle.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Oh, we definitely don't. We definitely don't. The other thing is that there is a 14th century map of the North Sea. That includes the British Isles, Norway, Iceland, Greenland. And the problem is that Greenland is connected to Helioland by land. How different was the sea level? It shouldn't have been that different. It was about the same temperature. Really? Oh, yeah.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
This is only vaguely the hottest point in our history. There was a point called the Medieval Climactic Optimum. Okay. There are a few different names for it. But in Northern Europe, at least, it was hot. You could grow grapes in Sweden at this time period.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Yeah. And not like little shriveled baby grapes, like full-size grapes.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
in sweden keep in mind this is a thousand years before the invention of monsanto yeah so arguably it was probably warmer than it is now so there would have been you tell i didn't really want to talk about giants and i was struggling to do so yeah no we're doing at this point the show is just the show yeah the show's the show you're here for us yeah realistically if you're watching this show you're here more for us
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Even now it was probably, I think it's the difference. I looked into it. It was like 0.5 inches.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
But point being is that I don't think it was higher. I think it was lower. I believe there was more ice cover.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Well, no. So they were actually at that point approaching an ice age. The little ice age was like 1300s.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Again, it was like, this is the turning point. They're at the turn, but that's why it's confusing, is the way the story is described, there should have been more ice cover.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Because they're basically describing there being all of these islands in the sea between Greenland, basically in the Davis Strait. They're talking about there being islands that aren't there now.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
No, it was hot. It was a temperature maximum.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Yes. So basically in the mid-first millennium, it got really cold.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
And then it got really warm, and then it got really cold.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
But the glaciers didn't get that big during the Little Ice Age. Well, that's the problem is that this area should not have like even if you look at the sea floor, there's nothing that's even approaching the surface.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Mm hmm. So you kind of think they must have been icebergs. But they're not described as icebergs, they're described as islands, and they clearly knew the difference.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
I don't know. But basically, they go from the western settlement to the bear isles that aren't there. Then they go to the land of the flat stones, and then the land of the forest, which just has an island of one bear off to the southeast. And then they go south, where they go who knows where. Oh, also, Torvald, in the one story, it sounds like he dies on the eastern coast of Newfoundland.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
In the other one, he's described as dying on a river that flows from east to west. After sailing northward with the land on the port side. So they sail north from somewhere, either Newfoundland or Belle Isle. They sail north and then west. And then the lands on the port side. They sail north and then west.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
on like one road and all you see is it's like billboard about jesus billboard about an adult superstore billboard about jesus that's referencing the billboard about the adult superstore billboard for the adult superstore. That's referencing the billboard about Jesus. That was referencing the billboard about the adult superstore.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
And the land is on the port side.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Where the hell did they go? Were they at sea or on a river? So they died on a river after turning in from the sea. They were on the sea, so they leave probably Belle Isle. Yeah. Or one of the islands off the coast of Newfoundland.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
They go north. Mm-hmm. They turn west.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
And then the land is on their left side.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Do you understand why that's a problem?
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
It's a long way from where they were. It is, but I mean, that's... But that's the thing, is if they went north and then they turned west, if they're north of Belle Isle by the time they go west, which is what it sounds like, if this place streamfjord, if this is Belle Isle, and they go north of Belle Isle, that's Labrador.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
So if you sail west from Belle Isle, you should have Labrador on your right. Unless they're in... Unless none of these places are actually Newfoundland.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
You guys can't see what he's looking at. He's looking at Labrador.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
That's the thing. That would have been way too far north.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
I mean, it's all just pretty basic east, west, north, south, larboard, starboard. Yeah. Like, for what they give you, it's easy to read. And they were good at that. They knew what they were doing.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
They basically marked it in days. Okay. I don't think we get how many days they traveled on that one. But then the other thing is, like, they make the crossing from Greenland to Baffin Island in, I think, two days. That is 300 miles.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Oh, if you, if you go, if you, this is my favorite example now of the difference. Two days versus seven.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
This is now my favorite example of the difference between history and archeology.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Because if you take the historian angle and you go, well, we're going to follow the documents. you're not in Newfoundland.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
If you go to the archaeological angle and you go, well, we're going to look at the artifacts, it was definitely Newfoundland.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Yeah, there's no way to... The more I look into it, I'm like, there's no way to reconcile these two things. Yeah. Like, the only explanation I'm coming up with is that these are describing multiple places and that Carlsefni did not land... At Newfoundland. Or at least he didn't establish settlement there. Or maybe he did. There's a place they called Hop. That sounds like it's in Newfoundland.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
But then they also talk about... So here's the other thing. In the saga of Eric the Red, there's two different accounts. One of them is of the Skralings. And the other is of the Unipeds. Uniped being the one-footed people.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
They are distinct from one another. These are described as different races. Oh. Interesting. Doesn't make sense. No. Kind of implies that we're in two different locations here. Now, some people have been like, oh, well, there was a group of people who only had one foot in Africa and they thought it was in Africa for some reason.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
It's incredible. Um, there's also been exactly one billboard on 76 might actually be on three 22, but one of the two roads you take to get from Philadelphia to state college, because again, everything's just highways. Uh, There's one that's been the exact same one since I started going to college back in 2016. The exact same billboard has been there for nine years. And it says 877-4TRUTH.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
I've come across no evidence that they did, in fact, think that this was part of Africa. I also frustrating thing here. It can't even all be made up because a Adam of Bremen mentions it in like the year eleven hundred. So only a hundred years off from this. And then also Lanzo Meadows.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
So that's the question. Melville? Does the river into it flow from east to west?
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
They could have, but... They were the greatest nautical navigators of their age. True, but it was a new land. True. Yeah, so I don't know.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Unless anybody, feel free to tell me I'm wrong. Well, so here's the interesting thing. The place they call Streamfjord or Streamfirth is described as a place, as an island, where the currents on either side are particularly... Yeah, I saw that too, and I have questions. If you want to show them what you're looking at currently. Yeah, yeah, yeah, hang on, let me... Because I... Huh?
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
There's a as I'm looking around at stuff. There's just a weirdly circular River in Canada Let's see if there's anything about that on on the internet actually Probably best to bring it up on my own maps really quick Also, would you guys want me to like make some of the maps we've used for this stuff shareable because I can I? But yeah, okay. Rene Lavasseur Island.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
It's said to have been caused by the impact of an asteroid.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
I had the Voodoo Mule and whatever the whiskey one was.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
But you would think it would be a lake. Not that. Maybe that's Atlantis. Maybe. Should we go digging? It's beyond the Pillars of Heracles, that's for sure. It's way beyond the Pillars of Heracles. Go satellite view.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Yeah, it says the impact of the asteroid formed a crater roughly 100 kilometers in diameter, the center of which forms the island known today. And it became an artificial island when the Manicougan Reservoir was flooded in 1970, merging two crescent-shaped lakes. So there were two crescent-shaped lakes around it. But still, why is it not a depression?
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
I'm trying to think of a joke about the term depression ring. Yeah. I feel like I should have one of those. Yeah, I don't know. I just came across it, and I was like, dude, I gotta be honest. If I were some Norse explorer and I saw this, I would be so confused. Like, imagine you're sailing up one of those rivers. You're some guy from Norway.
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Or no, 877-4TRUTH. Call to hear about Jesus.
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You're sailing up one of those rivers, and you just start going in a circle. Yeah. And you're like, huh. Oh, you'd lose your mind. This island is perfectly circular. Yeah. It's just a weird spot. I don't know. And I'm trying... I'm going to have to go ahead and put this all on the map because I'm really struggling. But I am coming to the conclusion that there's got to be multiple Vinlands.
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And I think that... I think it's pretty much undeniable at this point that they got further.
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They do record them trading some things with the natives, but coal is not one of them. And they found coal from Rhode Island.
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Coal that would have been above ground. Basically, if they had access to it, they used it.
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Has it been there for the last nine years? Yep, if not longer. Do you know how much those bills? It's $17 a day. A day? Yeah. It's got to be like a church thing. It is a church. It's definitely a church thing. But I'm like, dude, you can tell people about Jesus for free. That's like, there's a more efficient use of your money.
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I don't think it was anthracite coal. I think it was one of the other forms. I don't know my coal.
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Why? Because it's... Because we use it to heat our homes and also make scotch for some reason?
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Isn't it also plant material, though?
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Yeah, so I don't know. I'm frustrated because this is not the only time this has happened. Do you remember the Roanoke video? Very old now. It's weird to think that's very old now, but yes. Do you remember how basically the situation was exactly the same? Where there was a colony... And it got lost, and nobody knew where anybody went.
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And then eventually we found it, and then there were these weird indicators that they went further inland, but then we never found them. All we found were fake stones. Are we going to call this video the Roanoke of Canada? That wouldn't be a bad one, but I feel like YouTube is pigeonholing us into Canada right now. So I think North America in general.
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probably uh it's it's gonna be something like what really happened to the lost viking colony got it um but that's the thing is like the kensington runestone has widely been dismissed as a fake at the same time if anybody was gonna make it all the way to the great lakes it would be the norse
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Because their boats were designed for it. You know, these were... There is no way to go from the Baltic to the Black Sea following one river. You gotta take the boat out and drag it along the land. And they just did that for 400 years. It helps to have logs. But this is all kind of, you know, the confusing part of it is... What's been bugging me more than anything about it is Lanzo Meadows.
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Because what should be the thing that clinches the Viking settlement in North America turns out to be a major problem. Because it's not where it's supposed to be. All of the sagas describe a river and a lake. All of them. They are not talking about a bay. And I mean, sure, like they do mention how at low tide, some of these areas are more difficult.
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Like, you know, the water goes out and the sand is all there. But they say, yeah, we got into the bay and at low tide, the ocean went out and we were beached. And then we went up a river and settled around a lake. Which lake? They also talk about how in one, the river is teeming with salmon. In the other, it's halibut. One of those is a fish that goes up rivers.
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One of those is a sea fish that remains in the ocean. Salmon do spend a good amount of time. I know, I know, but that's my point is like halibut don't go up rivers.
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But that's the problem is they explicitly mention a river. The other thing, we're not sure which of these two stories is the older one. Why not? Because both of them have things that suggest they're the older one. I don't remember the specific details off the top of my head, but the one mentions a bishop. The other mentions that same bishop as the first.
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Like as a Christian guys, there's more effective things than billboards. If you're going to spend that money, do it on social media. You'll reach thousands of people who care. Yeah.
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which would imply that the one that mentions that bishop as Bishop I is the later one, because there would be no reason to call that person Bishop I if they were the only one so far. And it kind of goes like that. There's characters that are mentioned where they would be more relevant to the later period. But then there's other things about that same saga that suggests it's older.
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One thing about the saga of Eric the Red, for example, Christianity heavily plays in. Saga of the Greenlanders, which starts in 986. Christianity is not a big part of it. which would suggest it's the older one. At the same time, that's the one that has Torvald going on an expedition that makes absolutely no sense. It's the less detailed of the two also.
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I reached out to one of the foremost Viking experts on the planet. who I had the pleasure of studying under at Penn State. Oxford guy, like the guy when it comes to the Viking Age. Shout out Benjamin Hudson. If you are interested, buy his books. I think it's Viking Pirates and Christian Princes is a good starting point.
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did i do that math right 365 times 17 i'm not the person to ask basically 20 um but you know i'm glad we i'm glad we got around to the church here because i i think we should talk about giants um and there are giants in the bible as we know there are there are also giants in the native american stories and there are giants on the magellan expedition and there are giants in kandahar except there definitely aren't you know what i just realized what
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I asked him and I was like, hey, so I'm doing this thing on the Vinland Colony. And I was curious to your thoughts as to whether which of these two sagas is the earlier one.
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I think it's the saga of the Greenlanders for a number of reasons, including the focus on Christianity in the saga of Eric the Red, the mention of the fact that it focuses on more characters rather than trying to tie everything into Eric the Red, who would be a bigger name later. And he was like, yeah, Greenlanders is probably the earlier one. I agree with you on that.
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Greenlanders also is the one where none of the directions make sense. It's also the one where Torvald just mercs eight dudes for no reason. There's no explanation of why he did it. He just sails up onto a beach and he's like, kill him. They're just chilling under. They're literally chilling on a beach under their canoes.
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And he just is like, yeah, let's just let's just kill these guys. In the saga of Eric the Red, there's already been a large scale battle between the two sides.
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So in the saga of Eric the Red, it's justified in the saga of the Greenlanders. It's murder. The problem is, in the saga of the Greenlanders, the murder makes no sense. It doesn't fit with anything else that the characters do. But in the saga of Eric the Red, it does, which would suggest that's the more accurate one.
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Because Vikings were like the Norse, you know, and again, I keep using Norse and Vikings interchangeably here, mostly because Vikings is the term most people recognize. But the Norse were not shy about violence, even after they converted to Christianity. But they also typically didn't kill people for no reason whatsoever, right? It's always, oh, well, they had resources we wanted.
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Oh, well, they were in a place that we wanted. And Torvald does say that he wants to, you know, settle on a headland near this beach. But that doesn't mean that you gotta walk up and murder a group of people who are fishing. Like, there's just no explanation for that side of it. Whereas with Saga of Eric the Red, it makes sense.
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I can't wait to be done with this video. Like, I'm having a great time. This is some of the most fun I've had writing a video ever. It's nice to finally focus on something I actually went to school for.
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But, oh my god, it is so convoluted. And I'm still sitting here looking at it going, okay, I get it. Conflict with the natives, all of that. It doesn't make sense that they didn't try harder. I mean, the British, it took months to cross the ocean. It took them a couple of weeks. And they didn't have nearly the same amount of red tape to cut through.
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All they needed to do was go back to Norway and ask, hey, we found this thing. Can we go conquer it? Can we go settle there? And chances are they would have received Trigvason's blessing. Um, if not his, then they probably could have gone to Iceland and received, uh, you know, arms and supplies and everything from, uh, Earl, uh, Earl Eric Hokanson.
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Hell, they could have gone to Ireland and asked for it. Cause that's the best part. Aiden, there's multiple stories about the Irish finding new worlds across the Western sea from 400 years earlier. That much for, wow. There are sixth and seventh century stories about, About I sometimes they're Irish pagans, sometimes they are Irish monks going across the Western Sea, finding new lands.
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And then it turns and then the Vikings go do it, and then, you know, Columbus goes and does it, and then John Cabot goes and does it. And we've got all of these different stories. And all of them generally describe mostly the same thing. The Irish ones usually talk about islands. It's unclear if they're talking about Iceland and Greenland or if they got farther than that.
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The one that really is the most intriguing, though, is obviously the Vikings, because and as I've found, as I've been researching this more and more is like, yeah, we know about the settlement of Finland, but historians have kind of been keeping things close to the vest. or at least the media hasn't really picked our brains enough.
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I was always skeptical of the Vinland colony being Lanzo Meadows and nothing else. There is a lot more discussion about more Viking settlements or at the very least more Viking trade links, you know, intermarrying and resource trade. It's it seems almost certain to me that there were there was a lot more activity going on. And what's weird is how little it was documented.
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Was it the Sam Seder one or was it the other guy? The Army British guy.
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Because if if you're a historian, you look at it and you go, oh, well, this must have happened. If you're an archaeologist, yo, we're finding more and more evidence that it did, and yet we cannot nail it down. And it's frustrating. Makes me angry.
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Yeah, somebody... I had commented on one of his Instagram posts and I was like, me when I don't know anything about Christian theology and one person pointed out he has a degree in theology and I was like... He did not earn it.
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This is the fun part about ancient Hebrew. Right. Rephaim is a term that definitively can mean the spirits of the dead. Or at least the disembodied spirits of the dead, I guess. But there's also passages which suggest that it could refer to specific spirits of the dead. Those being the Nephilim. But not while they were alive.
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But then there's mentions of Rephaim that suggests that they were a living race at some point. That were descended from the Nephilim. And then the Anakim are also described as descended from the Nephilim. Which is of course a problem because what happened to all of the Nephilim? The flood. And the big problem here is that technically none of these are contradictory. How so?
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The terminology used to describe the flood as covering the whole earth is the same as terminology used to describe the Levant.
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Syria, Israel, Palestine.
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Could have been a local thing. Which, of course, then it's, well, who are these Anakim? Where'd they come from? Where are their Nephilim from? Which makes me think about the Sea Peoples. I wish our channel could be about that stuff.
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I know, but I don't have time.
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One day. One day. That's my goal. I'm working a plan for a video on Nephilim into the rotation. This is the point in my life where I'm like, man, it would be nice to just have six months to do this. You know, I just had an idea. It wouldn't even take me that long. It would take me a week and a half.
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Well, it's more we're taking them out of the trench coat and putting them into an appropriately sized jacket.
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Yeah. Putting a whiskey into a rum drink is... That's a reversal right there. Oh, yeah. We had a good time this weekend. I didn't even realize it was Mardi Gras.
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Yes. Archie can remain in the trench coat.
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I don't like the way you said that. I don't like the way you said it. Just read the questions.
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Want to come see the people?
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So would you be normal for a second? It's Archie. I can't really ask him that. What are you doing? What are you doing? Are you confused? Are you confused? Okay. Hey, buddy. Anyway. What was the question? Oh, right. The premieres. Yes. So that's what we're going to be talking with our YouTube rep about tomorrow. We are very confused because YouTube encourages the premieres.
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But at the same time, we're hearing a lot of feedback lately that the premieres might be a problem. I do want to say... Because it seems a lot of people might be unaware of this. You can rewind to the beginning of the premiere while it's premiering.
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Yeah, like there is literally no difference.
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between doing that and watching the video normally. I think people get confused about that because of the live chat and everything, but no, you can just go to the beginning of the video when you get there.
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Oh, boy. Yeah, I don't know. He's an atheist. I know he is. I always just wonder how, like, every time I see a clip from him, and maybe it's because they're out of context, but they're his clips. Every time I see one from him, I'm like, well, that was just the least charitable interpretation of that verse that you could possibly have.
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Yeah, like it's just... I think YouTube could do a lot to make premieres more obvious. I think that's the biggest problem, because everything about a premiere looks like a live. Yeah. It would be helpful if they had a different color. One guy was really mad at me for a while, because he kept insisting we were labeling things as live, and then they were just premieres.
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And I was like, dude, I know that the symbol looks the same, but it says premiere, right? I know it says live now, but also it very obviously is marked premiere.
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Yep, there's a lot of people that don't. I'm not trying to be condescending to the people who do know. It's genuinely trying to give some advice to the people who don't seem to be aware of that.
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You've definitely been around here for a while. He might be a new member.
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I think if you do re-become a member, it rejoins where you were.
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Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
What a guy. He looks like a goblin. He looks like a little goblin. Little goblin boy.
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So, good to know that if my child's ever in... Cats are basically parasites.
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They do. And she brought home a bird. Yeah, they're parasites that also hunt for you.
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It's like a symbiotic parasite.
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Exactly. But yeah. This thing doesn't provide me anything.
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That's a fair point. Aw, who's a little parasite?
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Yeah, maybe. Speaking of which, Weird Bible on Thursday. Weird Bible on Thursday is going to have Wendigoon and Stikooi and us. Yeah, there's going to be a whole bunch of boys. It's going to be exciting. The boys cast.
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I was thinking about either having one built or if I can get the time to build one myself, putting together a wooden dog crate for Ella that would have a like set of stairs on the side of it so that Archie could go and sit on top so that Ella can hang out in her dog house and Archie can sit on top of his dog house while I work.
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It can definitely account for being taller than average, for sure.
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Which, in the case of both cannibals and people who eat lots of llamas... Yeah. I can't believe they never figured out battle llamas.
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No, I just mean in general, like South Americans in general. Can you imagine being some Spaniard coming ashore and there's just an armored llama?
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Well, they had gold. They didn't care about it much.
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No? Not in South America or really North America. The Aztecs use obsidian weapons.
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Which like, if you don't have metalworking and you get to obsidian weaponry first... You don't really have a reason to do metalworking.
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I know, I'm excited.
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It's hard to say.
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Well, yeah. I think that might have been the Maya. But yeah, well, it was that you were sacrificed. Right. No, it was the winner was sacrificed. Being sacrificed was a good thing. Yeah. There were a lot of differences between European and North American cultures.
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We probably should, although I think we can find a way to make all this stuff work.
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We don't know much about it up until the 1500s. That's the problem.
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Everything we figured out about the pre-1500 period is from archaeology. It does not help that one specific Spanish priest burned a ton.
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of uh material on the mayans not necessarily uh their own material because i don't believe they wrote on paper or vellum but uh a lot of stuff that had been accumulated was destroyed did he give a reason uh the the typical reason you would expect from a spanish catholic in the 16th century heresy yeah heresy witchcraft it's not christian
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I believe that's how it works. We should just call Mike and be like, hey, Mike, how do those cables work?
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There's a meme about a kid who's 19 and doesn't know how to read. It was from the Vine days. What was it?
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We'll look into it. But anyway, the show has a topic. This is how it was filming History Unhinged. For once, I was the one staying on topic, and everybody else was like, no, absolutely not.
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That just immediately popped in my head. Well, congratulations on making it past being 18. Yes, happy birthday. Yes, happy birthday. You're almost out of your teens. You've almost beaten teen pregnancy.
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Yeah. We found this place. There was also a problem with the fact that Sedona Taphouse couldn't be bothered to play music at a reasonable volume. We don't like Sedona Taphouse here at the Lodge. We also don't like Scully Management Group, which is an apartment management group here in southeast Pennsylvania.
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who has been trying to get me to pay them over $3,000 in move-out fees between the month of rent they forced me to pay... Actually, it's closer to $4,000 at this point. Between the month of rent they forced me to pay despite the fact that I was not living there and that I had written permission from the previous management to leave at any time because the apartment was unlivable...
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due to the noise from downstairs that I was explicitly told would not exist because I was told there was nobody underneath me and that I didn't have to worry about sound from underneath me. This was a selling point they gave me. So then when I left, the management had just turned over to this group called Scully. And not only did they refuse to honor that, they kind of half honored it.
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And they were like, well, you don't have to pay the early move out fee. And I was like, cool. I'm also not supposed to have to pay rent. For I'm not supposed to have to give you 60 days notice. I'm supposed to be able to leave whenever I find another apartment because that was the whole point of the deal. Was that I needed to be able to leave as soon as I found another apartment.
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And how often do you find another apartment two months in advance? Like you find an apartment when you find an apartment. So they charged me twenty five hundred dollars in rent for a month. I didn't live there. And then when I moved out, they tried to charge me for water and sewer. They tried to charge me additional rent.
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They tried to charge me a late fee that I explicitly told them I wasn't paying because I had to wait a month for them to fix a light bulb. So I was like, well, I mean, you aren't holding up your end of the contract. There's no reason I should have to either. And here's the thing. If they had been like, hey, you know, can you pay us the late fee after you move out? I would honestly have done it.
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I know. Also, did we tell the people that the show is on? Or did I forget to do that? That's a great question. I'm going to do that right now. Anyway, while I do that, I'm going to talk about Goliath, because I think that's a... A good place to start here.
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I'd been like, you know what, just to wrap everything up, sure. But instead, they have fought me for months to try and get me to pay this money. which even after the rent is $1,500 in move-out expenses. And you know what I found out?
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$1,000 of that was carpet replacement, which not only is that considered routine maintenance, and I have proof of this in that when I moved out of my previous apartment, they did not charge me for carpet replacement, even though Ella tore one of them up. Ella did tear up a part of one one of the carpets in that apartment. There were two separate carpets in that apartment.
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They charged me for the replacement of both, even though only one was damaged. They could provide no proof that the second one was damaged. They could provide no proof that it had to be replaced for any reason. And when I was on the phone with them, they just kind of like explained it away. I.
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And then when I wrote to them expressing all of these problems, rather than writing back, they told me they were going to call collections. So I if you live in the southeastern Pennsylvania area and you are considering a Scully management owned property, don't. Because they're bad people like I mean, even by corporate landlord standards, these guys suck.
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Also, the one thing that really gets me is the property manager who, despite the fact that she gains absolutely nothing from trying to force me to pay this money and makes an enemy of somebody who still lives in the community... Keep in mind, a business owner in the community who is probably not somebody you want to piss off. But she gains nothing from this. She's an employee.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
She doesn't get a bonus. She doesn't get a cut. If she does get a cut of whatever the move out fees are, that's illegal because she's just going to write stuff up to get it. Now, granted, it is partially on me for not insisting that I be present during the inspection. But I just wanted out of there by that point. And I was like, I have a security deposit. That'll cover it.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
And then they just chalked up all these different random charges. So this is my official de-endorsement of anything Scully Management Company owned. Because not even, like, just for your own good. You know, we make sure to advertise products we think are good. This is me telling you, be careful. These people are predators.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Well, that's where I'm going with it. Can you send the link to the Discord? Yeah, of course I can. Thank you. So, one of the interesting little quandaries about the Bible is, is Goliath a giant in the sense that he is supposed to be of the Nephilim, or is he a giant in the sense that he is just larger than everyone else?
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
I am an angie boy. I will be leaving, now that they've gone to the step of telling me they're calling collections, I am going to be leaving just the most scathing of Google reviews. Yeah.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Which video? Which one are we talking about?
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Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Yeah. um i think in most cases the issue is that you've got people who really want to believe in giants who are kind of missing the forest for the trees yeah i think that's valid like there's not only do we not have any physical evidence but we also don't like like the the documentary evidence doesn't match yeah
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Archie didn't like that either. Good luck. I have a legal firm if you encounter trouble. Yeah. Yeah.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
I hope you're not a minor after saying that. I hope Amanda's aware of this. She'll understand. She knows I like my chalky milk. She got me a giant thing of chalky milk from Wegmans today. So I'm going to be giving her a big old smooch. Nice. Yeah.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Yeah. It gets oily. Yeah. Stuff is more oily than a teenage boy's face.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
You're not including peanut oil as vegetable oil, right? OK, just make I was like naturally occurring oils are all right.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Gonna un-virgin your olive oil. Oh dear. Yeah, how do you feel about that? Ain't that a threat?
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
I like how all that means is that it's not cut with other oils.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
yeah if olive oil doesn't say extra virgin it means it's probably got like some kind of other oil in it yeah seed oil can oil yeah so i want somebody on facebook today you know like or you know how sometimes facebook will show you a random group you're not part of because it thinks you'll like it i'm gonna say yes even though i don't right you don't use facebook that much anyway point is it showed me like a steak group and i'm like oh yeah i like steak cool
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
And what's interesting about it is that there are some arguments that he is of the Anakim who are of the Nephilim. I... And that puts us in a difficult position interpretively because he is never referred to as a Nephilim himself. And I think part of that may come from the fact that really nobody is referenced as being a pure-blooded one by that point in the book.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
caption is that he... Now, granted, it was a very well done medium rare. It was a very good looking medium rare. I realize that didn't make much sense. It was a very good looking medium rare. A well achieved medium rare. But he cooked it in grapeseed oil? Like deep fried it? No. Just instead of clarified butter or olive oil, he pan seared it in grapeseed oil.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
You don't need to cook a steak in anything but butter.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
It just... It was innocent, I think. I think he just didn't know any better. He was like, oh, well, you need oil. I think he probably realized that butter's smoke point was too low for what he was trying to get, for the sear he was trying to get. Yeah. I mean, granted, like, the best way to cook a steak is probably a reverse sear, but...
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Yeah. Also, when are we going to stop pretending sous vide is an okay way to cook things? I get it. Sous vide makes delicious steaks. Very tender. It's a great way of achieving the perfect balance of texture and not kill you. Except for the fact that you are essentially like low boiling something in microplastics.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Yeah, it's sous vide is you vacuum seal the steak in plastic and put it into 135 degree water.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Christian, you gave me a giant thing of clarified butter, and I just haven't bothered to make my own yet. It was perfect. It was the best thing I've ever used.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
You really sound like it.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
And yet you have this biblical account from a war that occurred during the Bronze Age, or I guess just after the Bronze Age, where they're saying, yeah, this guy is a giant who may or may not be mythological in stature. And that is never explained.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Isn't it weird how exciting these things get as you age? Yeah, we're... You're psyched about your rotisserie. I got an espresso machine from my parents. We're sprinting towards 30. It's rough.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Well, no, it's not that they have less interest in going out on the weekends. It's that we've stopped being like, oh, I'm going to go get hammered at the bar. And instead, it's like, I'm going to go drink manicured cocktails at my lodge. Yes.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
or like now we're like hey like what if what about like doing hikes once it gets warmer or game nights or game night yeah i love a good old game night oh we gotta have all the we gotta we gotta have a night where we stick all the girls into one room and then we have the boys in another room to play risk yes yeah and i'm not saying that we need the girl like girls can't play risk i'm not saying that at all i'm just saying the things i'm going to say to my opponents
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
will be so horrific that I don't want the women to hear it.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
I'm going for like a 1998 Quake lobby. Yeah, I am going to be saying things that have not been said on the internet in 30 years.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
You can play Risk, just maybe after, maybe round two, once I've gotten all the aggression out, you know? Either that or just don't yell at him when he says bad things. I once had to ask Sean why he brought citrus into the war room. Like, that's how intense I get about these things. I was there. You were there?
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Were you there when I accidentally gave myself a mild concussion? No. No.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Yeah. When? I don't know. There was... For some reason, I was doing, like, the Mario, like... Boom. Oh. I have a video of it. I don't remember why it happened.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
I also have one of Tommy very, very, very inebriated going on a little rant about how cute a girl was and then going, don't film me. Like obviously knowing he was being filmed at the end. He's like, don't film me.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
It's one of my favorite videos. That's so good.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
It's a strategy that's called turtling in the game of Risk. It's just usually you do it in, like, South America or Australia. Yeah, I did it on the British Isles. Now keep in mind, there's approximately four different ways to invade the British Isles in the game of Risk.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
This section of the book, and this is kind of where I'm going with it, there's a lot of parts of the Bible where it will refer to something like Goliath, and it doesn't elaborate. And when you go back and you look at a lot of historical sources, you start to see that exact same thing show up. You have, I think I likened it to the story about the joke on the Sumerian clay tablet.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Because he had Australia. I think this was the game where Wade and I took each other out. Yes, you two took each other out. Which does not narrow it down. That was almost every time we played Risk. We'd kill Norman. Yeah. Because Norman is simply too passive. Yeah. And then Sean would be turtling in Australia. And then whoever the other players were would end up fighting each other.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
And how it always went was that Wade and I would kind of be like, all right. We don't share borders. Let's divvy things up. And then once we come to a point where it's just us left, then we fight.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
And inevitably, every single time, Wade would stab me in the back at some point. And it would always be when there were two other players left in the game. Yeah. Because he wouldn't want to attack the person turtling.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
And so he was probably either me or Wade.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
That was good old times on this risk.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
We could do, we could make some custom maps and like do an entire campaign and Yeah. And record it like it's a legitimate war.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Yeah. Or play Axis and Allies. It only takes six hours to set up.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
reverse oh okay yeah my people do that although we did do that we did yeah it worked out we didn't finish a single song yeah we did we didn't we finished time uh good riddance oh yeah we finished free fallen we finished my favorite was brian asking me to play uh wonderwall yeah as i was actively playing wonderwall yeah
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
I'm sorry. I got through. I played Say It Ain't So by Weezer for the first time on stage a decade ago. I have never learned the bridge. Yeah. Never learned the bridge.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Oh, God, does it have the wrong thumbnail? It does, it's okay. Ugh. I put the right thumbnail on it, too. That's what pisses me off.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Working on that one, that's really just been an issue of us being like, hey, you want to come on? Him going, yeah. And us being like, you want to do this date? And then we don't hear back from him. And then he's like, do you guys still want me to come on? And we're like, yeah, we'll get you a date. And then we don't get him a date. Do you want me to start handling this? That might be better.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Mostly Instagram. That's the problem is that I have to.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
We'll see. Yeah, we'll figure it out. I probably just got to get people's phone numbers.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
You can't call people Cam McLeod. You can't do that.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Yeah, you can go, well, if you go into the studio thing, you can change it. It's easy enough. It's going to drive me nuts if we don't fix it.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
In what universe is L-E-O-D pronounced load? In what universe is it pronounced loud? Scotland.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
I got distracted by your dropping loads. Cam McLeod and Brian Schmegelsky. Those are not real names. You are not telling me there's a man named Brian Schmegelsky. Yeah. I mean, it sounds like there probably isn't anymore. I hope these are older cases, otherwise I'm going to feel bad if this is somebody who went missing like last week. You want to find out?
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
God, I probably should, so I can apologize. This is the problem, is that I study... I am so acquainted with horrors. Oh, it was 2019. Oh, no. Oh, I am sorry. I've become so acquainted with the horrors that I forget when it's appropriate to make jokes about them.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
I fully expect that one day I will have to seek treatment.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
It's going to be bad if I ever develop some kind of psychosis. No, I think... My brain's going to have too many things to draw on. I think we're just a lot more numb to everything. Because it seems like everyone else is really... Well, I have become uncomfortably numb. Yeah. Yeah, that's the other thing. I feel like everybody's freaking out right now, and I'm just kind of like, it could be worse.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
I don't know. I'm just constantly kind of like... Ah, that might as well happen.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
It's just... I'm over it. Yeah. Things can stop happening now. Enough has happened.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Yeah. It's just you weren't aware of it. History didn't stop. Social media has just made you acutely aware of all the happenings.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
We'd all be much happier if there was no social media. You and I would not have this job. No, we wouldn't. But so most people would be much happier without social media.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
I swear to God, sometimes you say things just to confuse me.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
They've also created, like, four new slurs during our Sons of the Forest livestreams. None of them are ethnic. Well, that's good. They're all job-related. Logpusher has become a slur somehow.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
God, why am I forgetting that? It's either 1 Kings or 2 Samuel, I think. I'm not that good about these things. But yeah, if you want to grab it for me, I can just look that up for you really quick. This is somehow turning into a weird Bible episode. 1 Samuel 17. I was close. I was close enough. Let's see. Where did the... See, this is what always happens to me.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
N-O-I-B-A? No, N-O-A-I-B-A. Yeah, I'm lost on that one, too.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Oh, right, you guys use the 24-hour clock over there.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
I know that it's probably because we don't do this in... I think England, they use the 12-hour, right?
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Yeah, but that's what I'm saying, is, like, over in the UK, they still use the 12-hour, right? Oh, yeah. Like, colloquially? Yeah. But, like, in English, it's 12 o'clock. From what I recall of Spanish, it's not that. It's hours. That they use. So it's like 1,200 hours. Oh, I see. Like 14 hours. The problem is in English, that doesn't work because you can't see... 17 o'clock sounds wrong.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Yeah, no, that's horrible. Also, I love how many things in the English language just come from people colloquially saying oh instead of of or on. Like Jack-O-Lantern?
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
It's Jack of the Lantern.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Yeah. 12 o'clock, 12 of the clock.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Like, diverse, meaning, like, being able to say, like, a number of things.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
I gotta find it.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Isaiah 66. Isaiah 53. It was Isaiah 60 what? Isaiah 60, 16. In this one, it's you shall... Oh, God.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Oh, you have an RSV. Yeah. Well, in the very poetic King James... All right. Thou shalt also suck the milk of the Gentiles, and shalt suck the breast of kings, and thou shalt know that I the Lord am thy Savior and thy Redeemer, the Mighty One of Jacob.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
I could swear I had the right one, but it's fine. Save. Now it's the right thumbnail! That was quick. Yeah, I told you. Nice.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Yeah, Isaiah contrasts the glories of the Millennial Kingdom with the inglorious conditions of Israel before the exile. Verse 16 draws on a figure of Deuteronomy 33, 19 to show the luxuriant quality of life in that future time. Verse 16 draws on a figure in Deuteronomy 33, 19 to show the luxuriant, luxuriant quality of life in that future time. Who is the figure from Deuteronomy 33, 19?
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
At this point, I think the live show is just going to become us chit-chatting and you guys horrifying us in multiple ways.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Oh, it's not much better. 33, 19, Deuteronomy is, They shall call the people unto the mountain. There they shall offer sacrifices of righteousness, for they shall suck of the abundance of the seas and of treasures hid in the sand.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
In the message? Because the message combines verses?
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Here, let me see it.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Oh, who wrote this? I am so offended. No more hand-me-downs.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
I told you I could be swift. Swift, we did. Maybe one second here. I should have thought to just have my Bible open instead of trying to remember what the book said.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
I am a Methodist seeking an apostolic church right now, but every time I find one, they do something that I'm like, oh.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
I haven't really looked very hard at the Lutherans yet.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
I was in a band. No, no.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Oh, no. That was an Orthodox. Oh, right.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Also, I have to use the restroom so bad. Can I? Can you handle this alone?
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Well, to give you a sense of where we were, half an hour ago, I was still writing this week's episode. And, boy, let me tell you, the whole Vikings founding a colony in North America thing... way more convoluted than you might think it is. And I was myself building the set for upstairs for tomorrow. Yeah.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
I'm more concerned that you didn't clock her saying it was a Tuesday.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Uh, the whole like leaf Erickson discovered North America thing is not as simplistic as you might think, but we'll be getting into that, uh, you know, next week.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Okay. Fair enough. He's one of those guys that's like, look at me. I'm so badass.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Kind of like if Jason Segel was a real guy. Not Jason Segel.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Steven Seagal, that's who I was thinking of. He is a real guy. No, I mean, like, if he was a... Well, you know what I mean.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Like, Steven Seagal is an actor who pretends to be a badass in his movies. Yes. Not just his movies. I know. You've seen the videos of him in real life, right? Yeah, that's true. Malcolm Nance goes to Ukraine and pretends that he was a sniper.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Gotcha. I knew it was there somewhere. Oh, really quick, though, because I wanted to bring it back around. In the giant section, but we got off track before I got to it. Shocking. The David and Goliath one is uniquely believable. Not because of the size. The size is obviously questionable. But the story of how he kills him makes sense for Goliath being a giant. Because he hits him with a sling.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Yeah. Oh my God, dude, I've been having so much fun writing this one. I believe it because originally the concept was going to be, uh, uh, what actually drove the Vikings out of Vinland? Why didn't they stay? Because currently the perspective is they liked the land.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
And this is not a slingshot. This is a war sling. These things were brutal. Goliath is wearing a helmet. It hits him in the head. Doesn't kill him, but it does give him the concussion. And then David walks up and kills him with a sword. So as far as descriptions of how to kill a giant go. He knocks him out with a sling. And then he stabs him.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
All the other ones, it's like, yeah, we put monocles on a guy who's 12 foot tall. Manacles, not monocles. That's a different thing.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
The number of times I've encountered people who think the Sunday school version of something is the biblical account is appalling.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Oh, every day I'm on Instagram and I come across somebody and I just have to comment, please, for the sake of all of us, stop talking. My favorite of the times when it's like Christian influencers and they're like, you know, they try to like, you know, corner me on something and like get all in my face about like whatever weird version of, you know, Protestantism they're preaching.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
And I say that as a Methodist. And I just have to kind of sit there and be like, no, no, no, no. You're a Christian influencer. I'm a Christian influencer. Yeah. I'm like, we're, we have, I, I'm not, I don't do, I'm not doing content constantly because that's not the content I make. Yeah. But I'm still more accurate than you. Yeah.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
This is like, like I think I said last time, I, this is one of those fields where if you don't have at least some formal education, you probably shouldn't try and make yourself a representative because, And by formal education, I don't mean you did Bible study at your local church. I mean you went to school. And you studied under scholars.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
They felt like the land was worth settling, but the natives were a problem and they were, they felt like they couldn't, they couldn't fight them. Meanwhile, literally within 10 years, another Norse invasion occurs in Britain against a, a United England invasion. that has been fighting the Norse for 200 years straight. And they just invade and win.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
I was very against it in college. Mm-hmm. And as I've gotten older and more experienced, I can appreciate it.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Even Isaiah, who is a hardcore Baptist. was like, the last time we did Weird Bible, it said something along the lines of the best churches he's ever been to were independent Baptist churches, and the worst churches he's ever been to were independent Baptist churches. I fully agree with that.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
It is one of those situations where you are going to get probably the best teachers are probably going to come from Protestant traditions, and the worst teachers are definitely going to come from Protestant traditions.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
You're going to have a lot more consistency. You're going to have high quality teachers consistently with the Orthodoxy and in many cases, the Catholics as well. That's it. They're just very bound by dogma.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Yes. He's at least well-educated. Okay, fine. I feel he's disingenuous and intellectually dishonest. Everything I've seen from him, he hasn't been? Maybe we'll sit down and do a reaction stream.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
I'll sit down and I'll do a reaction stream to his Jubilee thing.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
You are the same style. That's what it is about it that bugs me. A lot of the people he talks to are not educated.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
And that's the thing. I am so tired of 18 year old influencers who are Christian, like going on the internet and, and talking about Christianity. Oh, but he talks to people like, Oh God, no, I'm sure he does. But like, my point is that what I was saying is like, like, look, I appreciate it. I think it's not a bad thing at all to be open about your faith.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
And you know, you're, if you want to share like your testimony and all that, which is a very Protestant thing, by the way, because like, even, even I grew up Christian. Um, there was never a moment for me where I was like,
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
born again because i i've been christian the whole time yeah so like a lot of born again christians have this whole thing about sharing their testimony which i don't think is a bad thing necessarily but once it gets outside of the christian community it can often look cultish in the way they talk about it
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Because born-again Christians have a tendency to be very, and it's not a bad thing, very passionate, very intense. That is typically the people who don't drink, who are like a lot of people who... It's frequent with people who have been in prison or they have fallen away from the faith and then come back to it.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Things like that, where you get why they're passionate and why this is such an important story to them. It's kind of like people who are in Alcoholics Anonymous. And I understand why that might sound like a... like a dis it's not, it's just like people who have been alcoholics when they get sober are very intense about remaining sober.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
People who were probably, you know, raised Christian fell away from it pretty hard and then came back are very intense about their Christianity. Um, but a lot of it, when you put it online and you're making it for other Christians of that same, uh, denomination sort of, Those people will understand it. They have the context for it.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
It's Ash Wednesday. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I know. You said, when's Ash Wednesday? And you said that she said it was the Tuesday after Mardi Gras.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
But even to me, I'll see some of these and I'm like, whoo, that is. That is a way of seeing things, that's for sure. It's a little bit beyond faith. It gets a little bit too emotional. Yeah. And departs from an exegetic scriptural position. And I'm not saying it's all the time, but I see it pretty frequently.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Like, the Danes and the Norse come in and they just blow through the English with no problem. And I'm supposed to believe that 10 years before that, they couldn't have done that to people who were fighting them with basically stone weapons. That's a great point. You kind of think of it, it's like, you know, if the Vikings at, not Vikings, if the Norse at Vinland had chain mail...
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
And I think part of the problem is that you have a lot of online Christian communities that are encouraging you to do that more and more because to them, it's. It's a good thing, and in some cases it is, but also there's going to be times when that's not the right way to communicate.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
To read their Bibles, too. I'm never going to diss somebody for reading the Bible and sharing their Christianity online. It's just be conscious of... of how you are perceived. Because remember, the goal is not just your salvation. The goal is everybody's.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Oh, dude, the ones that piss me off the most are the ones who just get up and start preaching in places where it's completely inappropriate. Yeah. Like... Yeah, you don't need to be... I'm, like, agnostic still. Yeah, you don't need to be standing on a table at five guys...
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
like proselytizing that's not helping yeah that's not doing anything that's just pissing people off yeah uh and i guess that's kind of what i'm trying to talk about here is it not necessarily the sharing the testimony stuff it's like the the aggressive preaching in places where it's not appropriate wait wait so count uh patsalund said converted or re-upped their faith at least that's how i have always interpreted boarding ed but here's the thing that made me think of oh they're just prestiging
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Read the next question.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Well, that's the weird with some of them. Yeah. I think that's probably the case with, um, with some stories, but I, with the four specifically that I was talking about, it doesn't feel like it is.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
I think PJ Feta was being very deliberate in his description, uh, because I think he was probably trying to either glorify their voyage or justify the deaths it took, uh, you know, make things seem more, uh, intense that the crown would send more expeditions, uh,
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Whatever I with the Sita Kai, it's seems to have been basically late 19th, early 20th century mix ups in the archaeological and storytelling processes. Giant Kandahar is just BS entirely. And then the story of Goliath. I feel like if it was getting whispered down the lane, he'd have ended up being more than 10 feet tall.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
And that's the thing is we don't know.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Yeah, we don't know when the Bible went from being oral to written. There are reasons to believe it was as early as 1200 BC. There are people who would say it was the 6th century. So, I mean... What we are finding is that a lot of the things in the book are accurate to history in terms of descriptions of battles and famines and things like that.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
We're finding that all of these things were recorded elsewhere. So... That's the thing is, if it was entirely oral for 600 years, that's impressive.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
there would have been no competition. They would have been invincible for all intents and purposes. And yet it didn't occur to anybody to be like, Hey, we could just go back and get some chain mail. I mean, if they had gone to the King of Norway, they had gone to Olaf Trigvason at Olaf Trigvason and they had won, you know, St. Olaf, my, my friend, uh, we found a bountiful land to the West.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Oh, God, I'm sure there's something.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
I cannot recommend enough Logos Bible software for anybody interested in Bible study, whether it's academic, whether you're religious, no matter what it is, Logos is awesome.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
um it's going to be the closest thing you get to that uh there's a bunch of different you can buy different books not and the thing is not all of the books you can buy are bibles some of them are commentaries so i and it works through with all of them they're all intertwined so it's it's really incredible software nice
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Every time I see a story, it just screams hoax.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
I don't know. I just, I feel like if aliens were, if they got here, I feel like it would be a bit more obvious, you know?
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Like, think about humans. What do we do every time we get to a new place? colonize the hell we make it known yeah yeah it does not typically take us very long to set up shop at least to try you know like 96 ad this guy bjorn gets to uh seize the coast of north america basically goes well that's not greenland i'm not stopping there goes to greenland and doesn't tell anybody about it for 15 years
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
doesn't bring it up the second he does. They're like, okay, well we got to go figure out what the hell that is. And they start setting up a colony.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Possibly. I think it was something more like, uh, based on what I've read so far, I think we were running space missions, uh, earlier than we admitted, or at least trying. Because if you think about the description, it kind of sounds like early spacesuits.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Not as far as I'm aware. Not that it can be confirmed as far as I'm aware. Like I said, I gotta look into it. What's weird about it to me, and suggests something definitely happened that was more than a weather balloon, was the fact that it was reported widely. Like, immediately.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
as being a flying saucer that crashed uh and then the next day the army was all over it yeah that was not a weather balloon might have been skunk works yeah i i think it was on that early i don't know i i think it was experimental aircraft of some kind i just think it was earthbound yeah that's fair
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
just given the time probably sitting around five, six on average. Okay.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
It's only like six days from Greenland, uh, We have a whole bunch of grapes. We have hardwoods. We have seal skins. We have all of these wonderful resources that really would not take that long to get back here in the grand scheme of things. It would take, you know, a month for something to get from Vinland to Norway. Do you want to commission an invasion of some kind with our weapon?
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
So I don't know. Um, the fact that we get a distinct measurement and that this measurement comes up elsewhere, like they talk about the beds of like the Anakim being like 13 cubits or something. Um, I don't know. It's, it's a weird story. The only thing that's remotely unbelievable about the story of David and Goliath is that Goliath was 10 feet tall instead of 7 feet tall.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
That'll be an episode that's coming up once I have time to research what the hell is actually going on. because a lot of people are blowing it out of proportion, but also, bro, the parks? Yeah. I think somebody at Doge was like, ah, well, seasonal employees aren't necessary, and it's not realizing that the park running with seasonal employees is the park running at full capacity.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Like... That's not a surplus. It's at a deficit the rest of the year.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
I made a couple of TikToks about it. Most people got the point that it wasn't supposed to be because my TikToks were basically like one was directed at the left and it was like, hey, guys, your messaging sucks. Stop doing TikTok dances and holding signs. That's not helping. And then the one to the right was basically like, hey, guys, just because Trump's doing it doesn't make it good.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
You should like the parks. Here's all the reasons you should like the parks. Yeah. So it's basically like, you know, look, kids, you're both just awful on this topic because it's like both everybody in the parks are good for everyone.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
I was basically like, you know, there's the left wing arguments in favor of keeping the parks do not resonate with the right at all because they're like they're going to log it. And it's like, no, that would require an act of Congress. That's not going to happen. Whereas on the right, people are like, well, you know, we've got to make hard sacrifices. And I'm like, no, this isn't one of them.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Like, let's let's think about right wing values here. These are American jobs. that conserve American wild lands that are seen as one of the exceptional things about America throughout the world.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
One of the things that are uniquely good about the United States, something that bolsters local American economies like at every single level, the National Park Service and the National Forest Service are beneficial to America. There is not a single way in which they are negatives.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Even if they're not being logged, rangers not being available to do search and rescue, to do maintenance, all of those things. To help somebody find... Yeah, I'll tell you what, you know who's going to benefit from the National Park Service being cut? Us, because there's going to be a lot more missing people to cover. Yeah. Don't make my job easier. Save the parks.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
They had the best steel in Europe.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I eventually got it back.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
We do. It's called the Stalholt map, I believe, if I'm not mistaken. Here's the problem. It shows them all as being one connected landmass. It's also 300 years later.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
200 years later. 300 years later, yeah. Of course. So it shows the... It shows it all as being connected, which on the one hand, like if that map is accurate to their understanding at the time, then it suggests they didn't get up the St. Lawrence at all or even really past like a certain point with Newfoundland. But also. Who knows if it's accurate to what they perceived because it's the only one.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
It caused, like, several wars. Really? Yeah. It's probably responsible for the Catholic Church being... I would argue that without the Catholic Church forging the donation of Constantine, the Reformation may not have happened.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Yeah. Yeah. Miss Maury for $2. Also, we really appreciate the super chats, but please stop sending them. We need to go home at some point.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
There will be no reason.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Goodnight, Gomp.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
I have to give the same answer because Amanda bought me mine. I think I can find it on Etsy and I can probably post it.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
As much as I wish that was the case, I'm so against it. I'm so against that. Now, I do say in the video, I do bring up how the timeline works here. I was wondering, I'm talking about the CTECA. Yeah, so also just, you know, because we're going to talk about it at some point tonight.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
It's a difficult thing to do these days.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Etsy. Etsy is just your answer, honestly. Etsy's great. Etsy's, you'll find anything on Etsy. I have bought so many things on Etsy. I bought a holster and a gun belt on Etsy.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Yeah. Not like actual, like the plushes.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Much like Archie, he's not very smart.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
I was going to pick him up and... There you go.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Might get LO1s too at some point, but... Yep. Sit. Sit. Down, boy.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Oh, there's the actual Archie. He's on the ground. He's staring at me.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
I do need to watch American Primeval. I've heard good things. Also, 1923, like in terms of just like American like shows about America. Great show. Like. So far, not suffering from any of the nonsense that late Yellowstone suffers from.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Anyway, this week, this Friday's video is going to be another one on the CTECA, which you might remember that we covered a year and a half ago in two videos. And since we had a short week for a number of reasons, and we're filming History Unhinged next week, so I basically needed two weeks to write the main video, I kind of took... You mean this week? Yeah.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
How'd I say it? Dilvulian. diluvian like deluge i feel like i'm beginning to wonder if i have dyslexia yeah you might like very minor but you might yeah i read it here's the thing i read it right but it mixes on the way out that happens to me too okay yeah devolian diluvian
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Yep, you did. The Luvian. There we go. There it is. I've heard that argument. It kind of can make some sense. At the same time, I like the localized flood theory better. Yeah.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Oh, basically the idea is that Ham specifically... That's the reason it doesn't make much sense to me, is that if Ham's wife had Nephilim DNA, then so would the others. The whole point was that only Noah's line was righteous, or blameless, in that it didn't have any of the nonsense DNA. So...
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
It kind of carries through that maybe... I mean, if you want to get really granular about it, it could carry through that the Nephilim gene was passed along in the Y chromosome. Which kind of would make sense if the Nephilim were... Because they're male.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
I'm just going to make it very clear that that's entirely you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can take the brunt of that one for me. I'm not doing it. Good luck with that, though.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Oh, no. Sorry, I may have just given the atheists. It's not the only time in the Bible that somebody has to do a genocide. Yeah, it happens a few. Yeah, it helps if you understand that that was kind of normal in the Bronze Age. Yeah. Yeah, but for intertribal combat.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Well, next week's video is getting shot this week.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
I'm going to have to come up with an explanation on that one.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Yeah, so the idea was like, it would be better for me to have more time to work on the Vikings video, and then come back and, you know, do things otherwise. So, Archie...
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
I've got to have a temporal paradox at this point that ends with Karl Marx somehow being around in 4000 B.C.,
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Karl Marx is Satan? Maybe. Okay. Nah, Satan worked harder. Yeah, that's fair. Satan had a job. Incredible. At least the devil had a 9 to 5.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
uh tyler downward for five five six love the specificity says giants from middle earth will ascend to destroy the af or t atf also i got my wendigo print pattern patreon gift today worth it glad you like it yes if you sign up for the patreon at any tier over the one dollar level you will get a gift of some kind after three months it depends on what tier level it is the highest one gets you a hoodie it's comfy cozy
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
It is. All right, what do we got next?
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Thank you. Thank you very much. Archie said treats.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Oh, God. I have no idea when we'll have that going.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
So what I did was I went and I reorganized our previous two videos on the CTK, added in some new stuff, did some general commentary just interspersed within the older material and kind of combined it all into one episode that covers the entire story in a in a format that I think makes more sense and makes it easier to grasp the
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
I need to buy a house. yeah easier said than done yeah it's not even that easy to be said no yeah one day there will be less boomers and then there will be homes yeah the one upside to an estate tax is that if you aren't part of one it makes it easier to get one yeah i do think that it should be illegal for uh like black rock and vanguard to own more than a certain number of single family homes
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
yeah like there should be rules against that yeah corporations shouldn't own single family homes no i think if you're anything bigger than a uh a small llc like it's one thing if you're if you own five rental properties in the town you live in that's not the same thing as owning like several thousand homes in multiple cities across the united states yep
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Kind of racist against Italians, but it's okay.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Put him in timeout. Mods killed this man.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
I do think it was a little funny seeing some people on Twitter freaking out about politicians having ash on their foreheads and being on the news and, like, going nuts about it. And I was like, it was all Europeans, too. And I was like, they're just Catholic. It's like, it's not, they didn't draw it on themselves. A priest did it. Like, it's a religious thing.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
It is probably illegal. Chances are. But I... I don't know. I'm too busy, too busy to deal with that. I'm probably just going to like say a bunch of insulting things to the manager and make her cry and then go home after paying for it.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
I was told that if you don't have anything nice to say, it's best to not say anything.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
I will be in Detroit for a wedding in September. Really? Yeah. She got the invite.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Yeah, it got lost somewhere. You don't have to send an actual invite. You could just send us a letter. Yeah, or just an email. A letter would probably be more reliable.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Well... You have a better chance of reaching us with a letter at this point.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Because the original two were just... There was too much stuff that got repeated from the first one in the second one. And then it got really granular in the second one without having that much narrative. So this one is a lot... It flows better and it has updated information. I got some things wrong the first time around.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
That's a wild... Ooh, no. I have not heard of most animes, to be honest with you.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Yeah, right. Once I have health insurance again.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
oh yeah apparently now i need to wait until i file my taxes to get health insurance again seriously yeah because you need a qualifying life event and in my opinion the qualifying life event is being alive yeah who decided you needed an enrollment period for health insurance probably i'm gonna listen the lesser mario brother may have been on to something
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
I was going to do a video on Mothman recently. Like I was like, ah, the one we did was like three years ago. It was kind of not very good. And then I started looking into the sources and there's just not a lot out there on Mothman. Um, Unless you want to just kind of cover the legend, in which case, maybe that's what I'll do is next time I want to do Mothman, I'll do it the way I did Blair Witch.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Where we'll talk about like, you know, the legend and the movie and all that. Did see something interesting, which is that it may have been a kind of heron, I think.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
That has like red around its eyes.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Or a crane, I think. It was a crane. Chip with a hand grenade for 189 said, holy shit, it's canon now.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
I would definitely need to collaborate with a D&D creator on that one. Yeah, that'd be cool. Because I just don't know enough about D&D. But if I had somebody to work with who could write up the D&D side of things, then I could go and do the folklore side of things.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
So this actually has content from three videos on top of new content that I wrote last week. If you haven't seen it in a while, it's a fun one. I recommend taking a look at it. If you don't feel like doing that, I understand. But I would still appreciate the view because, you know, that's... That's how we make money. Anyway, coming back to the whole Goliath thing, which, give me one second.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
No. No. I don't even know how I can read that. I feel like if I do, it'll be clipped and used for evil.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
No. Jalike one mudda breastfeed her baby fo make um come strong is one of the lines here.
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Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
See, now I'm hearing it, though. No. The Shane Gillis skit from Saturday Night Live where he's at a Jamaican church. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like, God, Jesus was born to cross. Like... I kind of want Shane Gillis reading the Hawaiian Pigeon Bible. I think that'd be great. I think that'd be phenomenal. He can get away with it. I can't.
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Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
That was a while ago. I haven't looked into it recently, but I can take a look.
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Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
The chances of me converting to Catholicism are very low. Never zero. Never zero. If they end up being the last church that's remotely biblical, then... Maybe I know we are going to try and get a Catholic Catholic priest at the very least onto a weird Bible for a kind of roundtable kind of thing. We're looking at doing an actual documentary.
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Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
I just need to figure out what questions I'd want to ask first. Yeah. And then we would probably springboard that off into the roundtable show.
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Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
You know, the first 18 hours are fine. It's the last six. It's the six. Because those six hours, the first two of them feel like four hours, and then the next two feel like eight. Yeah. And then the last two feel like 16. Yeah.
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Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Well... This week, you can expect a video on the Sea Take Ha that is going to combine stuff we've already covered with new material that I hope will make that story the best we've ever told it. And then the following week, you are going to get a very, very long episode on the Viking settlement in North America that goes into so much more detail than I went into tonight. So have fun with that.
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Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Where, why am I having trouble? It was 1 Samuel 17, right?
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Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
I'm excited. I'm going to go mildly insane over the next week because... We've also got to shoot six episodes of History Unhinged, and apparently Steven and Gabby just left about an hour and a half ago.
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Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Oh, yeah. We're going to just hook Steven up to an IV drip of NOS energy drink.
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Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Yeah. Well, because we're not... It's not like an everything-that-could-have-gone-wrong-did situation.
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Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
I might have. Here we go.
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Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
David's defeated Goliath. So, I'm trying to remember exactly what is said about him. Yes, and there went out a champion out of the camp of the Philistines named Goliath of Gath, whose height was six cubits and a span. Now, Aidan... Wait, really quickly, which verse is that? It's 17.4. 1 Samuel 17.4. Got it. So... Do you recall the...
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
And I want to preface this by saying that, as far as I can tell, this has absolutely nothing to do with Sebastian's disappearance and is entirely... Basically, you know, a claim about you, Seth. But you and Katie, you have had a relationship. And I don't mean a romantic relationship. I mean, you've known each other for a very long time, correct?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Since before you became romantically involved?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
All right. So what was the nature of that relationship from the point that you met her up until the point where one or the other expressed romantic interest?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Okay, and were you living with that aunt and uncle?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Okay, so how old was she when you met her? She was 12 or 13. And you would have been 21? I'm just trying to do the math in my head here. 21, 22, somewhere about there?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Gotcha. So basically you were the relief shift. Yes, sir. Gotcha. So she would watch them during up until you were finished with work and then you'd come in and you would watch the kids after that and she'd leave. All right. And so, you know, what was obviously being, you know, in your early 20s, 12 year olds, there's not much you have in common, not many things to talk about.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
They're just there for a job. You know, what would you and Katie talk much? Would you hang out? Would she be there for another half hour after you got there? Or was it just you got home? She said, OK, bye, thanks. And then left.
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I want to hear it straight from the horse's mouth, because in most of these cases, they say that it's something that you yourself said, Seth, or that you said, Tony. But before we do that, I want to start off by allowing you guys to introduce yourselves a little bit, say who you are.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Okay. So not, not any sort of real relationship with her at that point. She was just, okay. So when then did you and her, uh, begin to become romantically involved?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Okay. I, there are also, I skipped this accidentally, but, uh, there were some people who were saying that you taught her to drive when she was 16. Is that true?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Okay. So I'm just, again, wrapping my head around some of these rumors. There's a lot of them. So as I understand it, then, you met Katie when she was 12. You didn't really have any sort of relationship with her. And then around 18, something develops. So what led to that relationship developing?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
So you were renting a room with your former fiance at that point. Had you guys broken up? So your former fiance, you were renting a room from her aunt and uncle. And then Katie, in order to escape a bad situation at home, moved in with them.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
And how old was she at that time?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
OK, so you and her did not live in the same place until after she was 18. Okay, and was there... Did you have any sort of friendship or anything like that between the time that you met her and she turned 18?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
All right. So, do you have any idea where these kinds of rumors might have come from? I mean, there's one where they said that you told her when she was 14 that you were going to marry her. Is that... Is there any basis to that? No. No?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Seth, obviously you're involved in the case because you are Sebastian's father, but Tony, you're not related to Sebastian at all. So why are you here? So if we can just, you know, I guess, Seth, if you want to go, Go first and just, you know, let us know who you are.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Seth, not that I don't believe you, Tony, but just, Seth, can you give me a nod or something if this is, is he telling the truth? He is. I know this is a very difficult subject for you. That's why I'm not trying to press any. I just want to make sure that, you know, we're getting the corroboration here. And, Tony, I do believe you. I just, people are going to want to see it from Seth as well, so.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
But I did just want to get in the opportunity there for the sake of the audience. So Tony, if you want to continue.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
This is the conversation you and I have had. I understand that you don't want to sling any mud, and I think that's admirable, and I respect you for it. I just think that at the same time, there have been a lot of accusations sent your way, and in order to clear your own name, there may be times where you have to say things that it'll have to be left up to Katie to come out and respond to.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Yeah. You can't prove a negative. It's, and that's, I've seen a lot of that also as people have been demanding for me, you know, we'll prove he didn't say it. And I'm like, all I asked you to prove he did, you can't ask me to prove he didn't. That's not how this works. You know, it's the unfortunate part of this being so broadly on the internet.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
I, but now that we've kind of drilled through that, and I think that's cleared up a lot of, you know, your, your perspective on it and your, your history of it, Seth, I, I want to kind of fast forward a little bit through towards the end of your relationship with Katie, because I,
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
I don't know what the details of your marriage were like, and I don't necessarily think that they're entirely relevant to Sebastian disappearing or to any of the rumors I've seen, but a lot of people accused me when we put out our series on the case, on the story and everything, of not looking hard enough at you. And one of the things we did really drill down into when we were looking at you was
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
was your divorce. And that was where it seems like all of these claims about you being physically abusive to Sebastian came from. And as I looked through it, I read through the paperwork, what was available... I and I saw a lot of claims made. I also saw the explanations you gave on several podcasts.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
All right, well, I mean, that's all I really needed you to say. You know, you're his dad. And as far as I can tell so far, and this is why I want to have some of these conversations tonight, is as far as I can tell, you have been on the hunt for this, right? For, you know, basically since he went missing?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
I the you know, the the inciting incident, I guess, being this time when you were going to take Sebastian swimming and Sebastian wouldn't clean his room. And then there was a little bit of a an argument between you and Sebastian. He ended up, for lack of a better term, throwing a tantrum, slipped.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
The way you the way you told it was that he if I'm not mistaken, is that he slipped on a hot wheel or something like that started falling towards the doorframe. You reached out to grab him. He ran downstairs and told Katie that you hit him. Is that correct?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Yes. Were these claims that you had hit Sebastian unfounded?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Okay, so you had not hit him. This was something he told Katie. She had not witnessed you hitting him.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Okay, I wanted to make sure I understood that. I... Another issue with that, I guess, there were a bunch of people who were saying that there are CPS claims against you. We know that there are at least two against Chris. I highlighted that in our series. That was something that was not disputable. He had also lied about how many there were. That was not in dispute.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
But in your case, you have categorically denied ever hitting Sebastian. So these stories, were there ever CPS agents sent to your house?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Aiden, any parent ever threatened to beat your ass for doing or not doing something?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Yeah. I mean, I received the same threats. Yes. So... You know, it's California. I'm not surprised. But at the end of the day, I don't think I know a young man who did not have his dad threaten to beat his ass at some point.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Okay, so that's been the last year of your life, basically, has been trying to find this kid.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
You know what I mean? I, I was never afraid of getting suplexed onto the concrete. I was a little worried about a wooden spoon. But that was about it. And that was more likely to come from probably my mom. Yeah. Very Italian.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
So, I mean, that's it's also I'm. I was not aware that that was before the divorce, so that's good to know as well. Speaking of these abuse claims, there is a claim going around that CPS said that you were borderline abusive.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
This was the judge who said that was borderline abusive.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Okay, but this same judge did not impose any restrictions on your custody rights. Correct. Okay. What? You gave me a look.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
All right. And I want to get into some of the details about that a little bit more as we go into it. But first, I think that it's important that everybody knows who Tony is.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Post-California.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Oh, yeah. So sometimes people with special neurological needs might benefit from structure is what you're saying. Yes. Shocking. Shocking indeed. I'm stunned.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Well, it's California. Yeah. Fair enough. Speaking of California, because a lot happened in California. I you you had said on, I believe, the Pascal show, and I think you also mentioned it on maybe Court TV or one of the local news stations that there and again, this is going to be a difficult one to talk about. And I am I understand that, but that something had happened.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
with Sebastian when he was, I believe, seven or eight years old, and an older boy who was around the age of 13. And that this resulted in Sebastian going into therapy, and this had its own cascade of events. So, you know, am I correct in saying that there was an incident wherein Chris and Katie allowed Sebastian to be alone with an older boy who committed an act of abuse against him? Yes. OK.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
All right. Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, welcome back to another episode of the Lore Lodge where we are actually or the Lore Lads. I keep forgetting we changed the name of the show. Anyway, we are back here with with another interview in the Sebastian Rogers case. In this time, we have some of the people absolutely closest to it.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
And was this child punished in any legal way?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
But they had not pressed, Chris and Katie didn't press charges.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
This was going to be the next question I asked you, if you want to go for it.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Okay, so the deputy told you the child was under the age to be prosecuted. Correct. That's interesting, because the following year, or maybe not the following year after this had happened. No, yeah, the following year after this happened, California passed a law that said even children under 12 could be prosecuted for the crimes that you described.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
So I'm not familiar with the California laws in 2017, but in 2018, they made a law that this was... something that could be prosecuted for children as young as like eight or nine, uh, depending on the circumstances. Yeah. I, so there's another statement you had made on another show where you had said you wanted to leave California because of the laws regarding a 10 year age difference.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
And this was taken by a lot of people to me in that you were for some reason, upset that you, uh, that people under a certain age couldn't be interacted with in certain ways. The way I read it when I saw the video was you were saying that you wanted to get out of California because they protect those kinds of abuses if the age gap is under 10 years.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Yeah, and then California sort of made it worse by downgrading it from a felony to a misdemeanor, even if a 21-year-old and a 12-year-old have something happen.
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And how did you get involved in all this? How did you and Seth meet?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
So I wanted to make sure that I understood it the way you had meant it, because to me it was very clear that you were talking about the fact that California does not protect children. No, they don't. So after this event, this is why I said this had a cascade of effects.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
After this happened, I know Sebastian went into therapy, but you had expressed, I think, on the Pascal show back in March or April of last year that you were not satisfied with the therapy he was receiving, correct?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
You don't have to say it. I think everybody, everybody understands what happened.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Yeah. As someone who's been through therapy, I understand. I was in therapy at the same age that Sebastian would have been for different reasons. I had some anger issues that I've mostly gotten under control.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Unless I'm talking to flat earthers or a certain several other subsets of people, Tartarians. But to get it back on track, this therapist that he was seeing, was this a, so this was not a child psychologist at all, or just not a child psychologist trained in those issues? Trained in those issues. Okay, but it was a child psychologist. Yes.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Was this individual a private child psychologist related to the school or related to Katie's work in the military?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Yes. And this was, these appointments happened on the naval base you worked at, correct?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Okay. So does that have anything to do with these claims that you were kicked off of a naval base?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
All right. Can you walk us through what happened there and whether it was a, you know, they came and put you in cuffs or if they just told you, hey, you're not allowed in, you know, what happened here?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
issues with her not doing what needed to be done for my son and i received a phone call gotcha so you weren't you weren't on base and a couple of military police came grabbed you excuse me came and grabbed you and escorted you off you were sitting at home and you got a phone call
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Your access was revoked. Yes. Okay. So I think that's an important distinction. Yeah. Because when you tell somebody this person was kicked off of a military base, it paints a certain picture in their head that people with guns and handcuffs came and grabbed this person and shoved him off and said, you know, never come back here again.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
And this is more like somebody saying your parking permit has expired.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Yeah, I agree with that. I mean, the kind of background and that's the thing that I think people haven't really digested is that in order for you to have that job, Seth, law enforcement would have to have failed at multiple stages to properly check your background. Because, for example, I assume that as a law enforcement officer, you have a firearm. No. You don't?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Right, because, corrections. Because I'm mid-year. But if you were to be assigned to patrol or something else, they would issue you a firearm, correct? Yes, sir. As we are all well aware here, you cannot purchase a firearm if you have domestic abuse convictions on your record. That is correct. You cannot have a firearm if you have had certain kinds of mental breakdowns.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
The process to purchase a gun is a lot more stringent than a lot of people believe it to be.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
So domestic abuse, I think, you know, permanent protective orders even. Yeah, I mean, even if you had a permanent protective order against you, and maybe the laws are different in the state of Tennessee, but as far as I'm aware, being from Pennsylvania, if you have a permanent protective order against you, you cannot purchase or own a firearm, correct? Correct.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Maybe you from ownership. Couldn't tell you. I think a certain number of DUIs is a felony. Yeah. So that's probably why. Yeah. So again, there's, if there were any adjudicated offenses here, you would not be able to serve in the position you serve. And there will be a number of rights that would be denied to you that are not correct.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
OK, so I think that that next kind of brings us to the Department of Corrections thing. One thing I saw today, somebody had asked a question, which was when you filled out your they said that when you filled out your Department of Corrections application, your sheriff's department application, you had placed a former employer as Rogers Homestead of Family Values.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
And that you had also told the sheriff's department that you could not, that they could not contact that employer. Is that correct? No. So you did not tell them they could not contact this employer. No. But you did list that as an employer.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Okay. What is Rogers Homestead of Family Values?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
And what is the goal here?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
So would this be a workshop? Would this be a retreat center? What are we looking at in your vision?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
And I, I mean, I, my little, I don't know if I, I think I had told you this, but my little brother is also autistic around the same age, a couple of years older than Sebastian, but you know, I, I saw a lot of similarities when I was looking at, looking at the two of them and it doesn't surprise me at all that Sebastian would have, I have had a good relationship with animals.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
So this, I guess the best way to refer to it would be a retreat center. This retreat center, is this an idea that you had after moving to Tennessee, or was this something that was in the works beforehand? Both. Both.
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So where did this get to in the stages of development while it was in California?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Okay, so it was the divorce that kind of brought this to an end in its California iteration? Yes. Okay. And then when you, when you came back to Tennessee or when you came to Tennessee, I guess I should say, I went and I looked up the filing date on the LLC and it said it was May 9th, 2024. Is that correct? I'd have to, or just generally my attorney, but yeah, generally the right timeline.
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Right. You know. Yeah. So, I mean, that makes complete sense to me. We have we have a couple of our own of those that are just, you know, we want to do something later on and we want to make sure we've got the name and that we're properly registered and everything. And that at the end of the day, you know, get into a position to do something.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
And it's the filing takes time and you got to wait for the state to get back to you. And sometimes it's good to just have it there and then go get it when you need it, because it doesn't take that much money to form one of these things.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
We're like, we understand this very well. Yeah. We, in the same boat, we want to start a production company. We got the LLC filed and we haven't done anything with it because just too much is going on there. You know, just because it exists doesn't mean that money is coming in. Doesn't mean that it's doing anything. Yeah. Um, So, damn, there was one on the tip of my tongue.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Something I wanted to ask about, and it's gone now. Hang on. I have a list. I have a list for this reason. There it is. Oh, and it went away again. Here we go. Yes, so... Yeah, there we go. That's what it was. So this is a bit of a topic shift, but... Sebastian played online games to my understanding at your house, Seth. Yes.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
But Chris and Katie said that at their house, he did not have access to the internet. Is that, would you say that's true?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Okay, so was that that he didn't have a cellular data plan or that he didn't have... Or that they had parental controls? Do you have any idea what that was?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
All right, so as far as Chris and Katie are concerned, he did not have access to the internet at their house. And he only could text a select few people from his phone. So... There was probably no way he could have contacted anyone from their house, correct? That's what they're saying.
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At your house, and there's been some hubbub about this, were there any restrictions of the same kind? Did he have access to his own computer, his own tablet, PlayStation, anything like that under his own username? No.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
And would that go back and forth between the houses?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
All right. Yeah. I think that's, that clears up some questions that I had. Cause that was one thing I was curious about, you know, you and I had talked about it a little bit, but I just, you know, what, what was the connection here? How'd you get involved? Why, why is this person here? Because there's a lot of questions out there, you know, well, why, why is Tony always there?
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Right, because he would need a laptop for school. That would make sense. He was 15. He's 15, 16. Sheesh. How long has it been? Yeah, he's currently 16, correct? Yes. Okay. Just making sure I have my number straight. So on this laptop, did he have restricted access to the internet, unrestricted access to the internet, parental controls? Yes.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Okay. And did you have access to anything that came in and out of that email?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
All right. And when it came to internet browsing, were there any restrictions on that, or did he have open access to the internet?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
So you could see what he was searching online?
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Do you know, just for my own sake, because I might want to look into what the program was, because it might be relevant. Do you know what, do you remember what program it was? No.
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I didn't have quite the same situation, but my parents did have, like, one of those parental control apps on it. Didn't actually, like, control what I did, but it did report back to them on anything that happened on that laptop. So it was very robust. Very robust parental controls. And that was probably, God, 2012?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
When he would be playing video games, though, I'd say it was not something on that laptop, because I assume he wasn't playing Call of Duty or anything on that laptop. No. Were there any non-school-related games that he could play on that laptop?
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Why does what qualifications does Tony have? Why is he involved? And at the end of the day, you've come out and you've basically been a rock. So, so as I understand.
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Okay. So you, cause you could see all of it. Correct. Um, so when it came to PlayStation, did he play any, you said he played online games under your account. Did he have a way to speak to anybody also really quickly? What, what model of PlayStation is this?
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So. Was this one thing I did want to ask, because, you know, there were, of course, a few times that he had stayed home at your place and you were at work. I understand these were times when you either couldn't get off of work or that he came over during the week for some reason. I understand.
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Would these have been at times where he would have had access to the internet through the PlayStation, where he could have gone and got your headset? Would there have been any way he could have communicated with somebody else via the PlayStation network or via a chat lobby while you weren't home?
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So you could tell they hadn't been picked up.
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Reasonable. Reasonable.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
So there, this incident where, that you had talked about on another occasion where he was complaining that the other people in the game weren't listening to him. That he was telling them things, calling out enemies and stuff like that, but nobody was listening to him. Nobody was talking to him. Was that because you didn't have headphones in?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Okay. So I think that, you know, Tony, just so I understand you're, there is no, no money being exchanged here. You're, you're just here to do what you feel is right. Correct.
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Yeah. So you just had voice chat off?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Oh. Which means it doesn't matter if you put headphones in. Correct. Voice chat's off. And I will say, I had a feeling when I first heard that little bit of the discussion that this was probably an issue more of people commenting and not...
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having familiarity with video games than it was an issue of you saying things that were inaccurate or that you were changing up your story it sounds to me more like people don't understand how video games work they hear you say that he was talking to the other players but they weren't hearing him and it doesn't occur to them that he might not have the ability to chat with them via the settings
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
So not entirely surprised about that. Let me go through. There was another, another one I wanted to get to because, Oh, there it is. That's what it was. I did. Was this laptop? Was it a, a true laptop? Like we, I don't know if you can see the one we've got sitting over here, but like a flip up and down laptop, or was this a, like a Microsoft surface kind of deal where it was more of a tablet?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
So he had a separate tablet and laptop.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
All right. So law enforcement did not want the laptop. No. Did they take the tablet?
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They took the tablet he didn't use, but not the laptop he did use. Now, which grandmother gave him the tablet?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
He's only got one grandmother? Well, I guess my question was, is that your mother or Katie's?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Gotcha. Why is that? Is that because of what Katie's childhood was like? Yes. Okay. Does Katie still have contact with her mother?
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Okay. I just wasn't sure if that had been something that you would have known while you were married with her.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
So Katie's, okay, that's important. You're telling me Katie's mother is, is this an adjudicated thing that she's not supposed to be around children? Or is this a, Tony, you're nodding your head yes?
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State mandated. State mandated. And yet Katie was allowing her mother, who has a directive from the state not to be around children or contact children. Katie was allowing them to communicate.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
That's premeditated. Well, of course.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Uh huh. Did, do the police know about this?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Okay. So they're, they're aware.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
So the morning that Sebastian, the morning before Sebastian disappeared, I guess, I am understanding that the 25th of February, 2024, Sebastian's day started with him coming downstairs, his mom making breakfast, which, based on her statements, was not something she commonly did. Making pancakes, in fact.
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Then having him call the grandmother he wasn't supposed to have contact with to brag, whatever that means. They then spent all day doing a bunch of Sebastian's favorite things. And then Sebastian disappears.
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Got it. I just want to make sure, because I was going to say, if it played out the way I just described it, I was going to have –
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Can I ask what year this was or how old Sebastian was? If you recall, I guess, was this closer to the divorce or closer to the marriage?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Okay, gotcha. So, very close to the divorce in that case.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
She had already filed at that point?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
People who are not, you know, running around doing who knows what in California pretending to be private investigators. And those are Tony Mathis and Seth Rogers. I'm honestly very excited to have you guys on tonight. This has been a conversation I've wanted to have for a while. And I think that.
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the final straw was her putting Sebastian in a potentially dangerous situation.
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That's what I'm saying.
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Mm-hmm. I'm sorry, Seth. I'm sorry. I don't, I don't mean to, I don't mean to cause any pain. I just, I'm trying to understand what happened.
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You can step away.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
a fraction of how frustrated seth is about how far away from the point of all of this yeah it has gotten like i mean the fact that we're sitting here having to waste an hour debunking rumors that never really had any basis to begin with yeah because a few drama channels on youtube can't can't stop they just love the 1500 bucks a month that much yeah
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Yeah, when she comes on the show.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Yeah, I would think that considering you guys are here right now, I mean, I'll be the first to say, I know Chris probably hates my guts, but... At the same time, I haven't seen him come out and even attempt to deny or debunk anything.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
That's what I mean. I just had his lying hack private investigator come on and treated him kindly until he decided to go on a Twitter tirade claiming that we were unfair to him.
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And that's what I was going to say, is everybody's always asking, you know, why does Tony always have to be there? Why can't Seth take an interview on his own? And I'm sitting here like, where's Katie Proudfoot? She hasn't taken an interview on her own once. Not one time, to my knowledge, unless I'm missing something major. I only ever saw her next to Chris, and then suddenly it was just Chris.
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I don't think SF will want to do that, though. He he did not handle handle realizing that he admitted to a whole bunch of things very well. Yeah. My favorite was indeed him telling everybody he was in contact with the TBI and with Sumter County Sheriff and all of that. And then him just brazenly admitting on our show that the law enforcement contact he had was search and rescue a county over.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Yeah. I mean, that was the constant thing was, you know, oh, no, we have a great co-parenting relationship.
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Yeah, which is I mean, I've brought that point up a number of times and nobody's ever really been able to confront it. It's always well, if all these things about Seth are true and they knew these things were true, it was abusive of them to allow him to go live with Seth, was it not? And every time I get to that question, it's crickets.
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there was I'm glad Seth is back because that's actually what I wanted to ask about Seth I want to get a little bit closer to the actual event also really quick before we dive into anything else are you okay?
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That's what I'm doing right now. That's what I'm getting us to right now.
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That's what I want to do, and that's why I wanted to dispel some of these things, is so that we can finally stop talking about rumors and about nonsense and get back to focusing on the missing child here. Because people like Cluminati and Queen Bee, I mean, those...
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those drama YouTubers out there who keep digging everything up so they can talk about it day in and day out and do absolutely nothing to help find this kid. I know.
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Okay. So I do want to, I do want to get back to talking about Sebastian. I just want to get that stuff out of the way first. I'm sorry that we had to go through it. You know, I genuinely am. But I think when it comes to the actual disappearance, can you, can you tell us what Sebastian's, what his home life with the Proudfoots was like? Did you know anything about,
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Because the story they're running with and that they've been running with the whole time is that Sebastian walked out that front door and they think one day he's going to walk right back. So do you think he would have run away? I guess would there have been reasons?
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And were you able to see the home after he disappeared, and were you able to account for all of his shoes?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
He only had three pairs of shoes?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Okay, so as far, all the shoes you were aware he owned were still in the home.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Okay. And as we know, not a single scent dog traced him leaving that house.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Yeah. SF showed us the camera angles.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Yeah. At that point, you're a public investigator.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
That. As he was very happy to tell us.
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This is Michelle Cleveland, correct?
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Michaela Cleveland.
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And these CPS reports, who were they against?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
So I guess what I'm asking is, were these CPS claims against you, Seth? No. Okay. So the only CPS... So the only actual CPS visits we have are the one to you in California. And this was about... This was while you and Katie were married. And this had to do with Sebastian saying that you said you were going to beat his ass. Yes. These other CPS reports, those were involving the Proudfoot household?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Okay. Because one thing I saw was, I think it was a screenshot of the cease and desist or something. I didn't look too closely at it. I was just looking at it. Okay, I'm going to probably ask about this anyway. One of them said that you felt that these CPS reports were being used as leverage against you.
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or something to that effect that you were, and, and people were asking, well, what is in these CPS reports that is so worried about?
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Yeah, I think that makes complete sense. I guess, you know, one other thing that I was wondering, and this is more to do with Sebastian and the situation after he went missing, but on the Pascal show back in, again, I think it was March or April, you had said that... Chris approached you or you had approached Chris.
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There was a conversation that occurred where Chris told you something along the lines of if people found out about such and such thing Sebastian said or did, they would want to stop. They wouldn't want to look for him.
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Do you know what Chris was talking about? I did. All right. Is it something that Sebastian did or something that happened to him?
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Okay. Did this involve anyone other than Sebastian? No. Okay. So it was just Sebastian.
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Yeah, the main question I had was that there were some accusations that it had to do with Chris's daughter or something like that.
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Yeah, I feel horrible for her. I mean, just genuinely terrible for that child. I can only imagine what this is... What kind of effects this is having on her, too. So I've actually been keeping a close eye on that case as well. The custody battle that's going on there. And... I'm happy that for the most part, it is not gone in any way in Chris's favor. But I think that that's an important thing.
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And this is another thing that I, that part of the reason it frustrates me that there's all these rumors going around about you, Seth. Meanwhile, there is a, an entry in the New Mexico court record saying that Chris Proudfoot needs to take parenting classes, conflict resolution classes, I think 24 and 12 hours. And he took them. He tried to fight it, but they forced him to take them.
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All right. This is I'm starting to sense a pattern here in rumors I hear and then the reality of them. So speaking of funding, though, while we were kind of on that topic, I wanted to address that because that was one of the big things I saw going around.
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So I think like when you were sitting here tossing out rumors, you know, he said, she said from 10 years ago. Meanwhile, just in the last couple of years, one of the people who lived in this house with Sebastian, uh, was told he had to take parenting classes if he wanted to see his daughter. That is extremely relevant. That is, especially when you can... Let me get to the bottom of this one.
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Was it 2022? Yeah.
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Was there, were you going to be sending him to any kind of, there was some talk that you guys were planning to send him to some kind of facility to spend some time there?
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All of these claims that, you know, there's this GoFundMe that the Proudfoot said they didn't want set up and then that Seth, you know, it materialized. And I want to say, you know, I'm going to ask you guys who created it and all that. But the issue of the GoFundMe has been.
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Online school or in-person school? In-person school. Okay. So what is ABA therapy?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Okay, so at no point was he being sent to any kind of boarding facility or anything like that.
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I mean, yeah, I'm, yeah.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Gotcha. So basically they were going to sit him down and work with him to get him up to speed so that he was in a position where he could go to public school, private school, maybe, and fit in.
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I mean, and that would have been alongside everything else. I take it. That wouldn't have been any kind of special inpatient facility. That would have just been something he did.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
So it was, so as I'm understanding, it was Chris and Katie's idea to have Sebastian go live in kind of a live in facility. And then you said, well, why doesn't he just come with live with me?
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proud foots didn't want it i they don't know where the money is going and there are these claims out there that seth you gave money from that gofundme to people for improper uses i so i wanted to ask you know when it comes to that who started this gofundme my sister your sister did and were you aware that she was starting it or did she just do it and then let you know
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A CPS report? Correct. This is the one where Chris hit him with a belt, correct?
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november december all right so just let me try and recap a little bit here just for our sake and for the audience to make sure we're all on the same page the the process here is that chris and katie say they are fed up with some sort of behavior from sebastian is this was he just being rambunctious was this related to the thing chris threatened kind of threatened you with
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So Chris and Katie put them in these diapers. Did they have a reason? Did they explain this to you?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
So Sebastian never needed diapers at your place, but no. Okay. So just get back to my recap here. So Chris and Katie approach you. They say, Sebastian, we can't take this behavior anymore. It's not working out at our house. We want, I, we want to put him in a facility and then, or they wanted to go live with you. That was a phone call. Okay.
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So was the first thing facility or was the first thing go live with you? First thing was come live with me. Okay. So they, they approach you, they call you, they say, we can't take it anymore. We want Sebastian to come live with you. You say, well, right now my schedule.
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Did it seem like this was Chris's idea? Katie's idea or a joint idea?
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And then this was, this was after they suggested he go live with you. No.
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Wait, that's what I was clarifying.
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That was my question. They were, they could, they were at their wits end with Sebastian's behavior. Yep. They approached Seth. They asked Seth, you know, Hey, can Sebastian come live with you? Seth, my understanding, you say I would love to have him, but with my work schedule right now, I, I can't be home at the times I need to be home. Yeah.
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Can you hang on to him for a year so I can get my schedule together?
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So you felt that it was best for Sebastian if he remained in that school, not knowing necessarily everything you know now, but in that school, in that home, until you were able to get to a point where you could get him into online school and then adjust your schedule so that you could be home with him at the proper times.
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Okay. So, and excuse me for rehashing this so many times. I just want to make sure that we really have the series of events nailed down. So 2022, they approach you about Sebastian coming to live with you, correct? Yes. You say that you need some time to get everything in order so that he can go to online school and that you can properly take care of him.
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Okay, so Proudfoot's come to you. They say, we want Sebastian to move in with you. You go to the school. You say, okay. You go to the school. The school tells you there's a six-month wait list. Okay. You then go tell the Proudfoots that there's a six-month wait list, and because of your work schedule, you can't be home with Sebastian at the proper times?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Right. So what happened next? After you find out that it's going to take some time for him to get into online schooling, what was the communication with Chris and Katie from there?
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Gotcha. So it wasn't, they didn't, it sounds like they didn't want to wait. So when was, when was the facility conversation? Was that 2023? Yeah. That's 2023. And then you are getting him enrolled. He's good to go.
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It was right before he went missing. Which is interesting because that's about the same time that Chris started trying to get custody of faith again. which, as you very well know, I think factors into this heavily.
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one of the most important things we can do tonight is not only dissuade some of these rumors that have been going around or at least clear them up, you know, get to the bottom of them, but most importantly, we can bring this back around to Sebastian because so much is floating around with rumor.
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So the implication there would be that this conversation happened because a CPS officer or agent visited the house.
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So the way I'm understanding this, CPS incident. They approach Seth about Sebastian moving in with Seth. Seth says, yeah, sure, I'll take him, and starts working on getting him enrolled into schools, figuring out how it's going to work, all of that. School year comes. Sebastian is... I guess this would be the 2022-2023 school year. Sebastian is still with the Proudfoots.
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Things die down a little bit. And then things are good for most of 2023. And then at the end of 2023, yeah, as far as you guys know. And then at the end of 2023, they start talking again. We can't take it anymore. We want Sebastian to move in with you. Sebastian still can't move in with Seth until he's properly enrolled in online school for the 2024 2025 school year.
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But you didn't want to pull him out of school midway through the year.
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Got it. OK, so they approach in 2022 after the CPS incident. They say, hey, we want him to go live with you. Seth says, yes, you can come live with me. Let me get him onto the wait list enrolled. He gets through a little bit more of that school year. They decide, all right, you know what? It's OK. Twenty twenty three.
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So you don't have him enrolled for twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four because he's still living with them. And then you enroll him for twenty twenty four, twenty twenty five when they approach you at the end of twenty twenty three.
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Not the school year. That's what I mean. Yeah. So then the plan is that he will finish out the 2023-2024 school year with the Proudfoots, and then he will move in with you, I assume, over the summer, and then he will start with the Clarksville school district that you had him enrolled in.
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Got it. So I think that's a very important timeline for, I think, everybody to know about. Especially now that, of course, I understand you guys can't share the details of these DCS reports, but I... I think that that is a very important thing for people to know, that this was a conversation that was not just, you know, hey, we think he'd be happier at his dad's, but we can't take it anymore.
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We need him out of here. I mean... I have a lot of thoughts about the diapers. None of them are good, and for that reason, I'm going to refrain from talking about that while you guys are on here, because I don't want to cause unnecessary pain. But... Moving into the actual timeline of the disappearance, because this is another thing that I think people have brought up.
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Seth, when was the last time Sebastian spent the weekend with you before he disappeared?
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Okay, so you saw him the weekend before he went missing. So the 18th.
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All right. Do you know when the last time Chris saw him was?
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Okay. What was that weekend like with him?
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Yeah, you and Sebastian the last time he was there.
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Magic the Gathering?
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I know it. I'm not making fun of you. I used to play.
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I'm going down to do a giant LARP event this week. So you're not going to hear any laughter from me aside from like, I get it. I'm there with you. Like communal spirit. That was very much like I'm, I get it.
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Just for those who don't know, Magic the Gathering is very similar to Yu-Gi-Oh! Pokemon.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Our generation would be more familiar with Pokemon. So it's the same kind of thing. Trading cards, you get little booster packs, you buy main decks. I used to play that when I was a kid too. So I... I didn't really have anybody to play it with after middle school, though. So I stopped.
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Yeah. So the game's older than we are.
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
It must have been awesome back in the 90s.
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Was he good? Aside from just the deck?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
So he knows his way around the game.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Yeah. Oh, of course. I mean, and that's the thing is with, especially with a game like that at a tournaments, no amount of being on the autism spectrum is going to make you stand out at a magic, the gathering tournament. Like those are going to be your people.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
You probably smell better than the ones that weren't on the spectrum.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Yeah, but these are important things about – because also, I mean, this is – This is what me and Sebastian did.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
And he knows them? He knows their names?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Well, that's what I was just going to say is, you know, the stuff we heard from Chris and Katie was that Sebastian didn't really have any friends. He wanted them, but didn't know how to make them. He didn't really talk to anybody. But it also sounds like they weren't really trying to enrich him. They weren't taking him to Magic the Gathering tournaments. They weren't taking him to D&D night.
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Did he have, like, I mean, maybe friends in the... Common sense wouldn't be the right word for it, but did he have friends where you were? Was he able to interact with people?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
And so was he fine doing that?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
There's a lot of people in the chat right now. We're going to get exactly why that's funny. A lot more who won't. Oh boy. Yeah. We, we did a one shot just about a month and a half ago where, what did I get? I was a, Oh, uh, what is something I do not.
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
I always, I always play Bard.
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Yeah. Right. Well, we'll, we'll kind of bring it back, but yeah. So I, I mean, I just, but I think this is good. This is the stuff people need to know. They need to know that Sebastian wasn't a, I, you know, low functioning kid with autism who could barely express himself and was awkward around everybody. Yeah.
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
He was a kid who could go and play Dungeons and Dragons, which is an incredibly social game. Oh, extremely. I mean, with kids his own age, with you and your friends, he was... These are important things for people to know about this child because it tells a different side of the story.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
The side of the story we've had this whole time is that he was a loner and he didn't get along with people and he had incontinence issues and everything. And everything I'm hearing right now is that Sebastian, what they weren't, they weren't taking care of Sebastian. They were keeping Sebastian manageable to themselves. They were, they were, that's what it sounds like to me.
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Rescued a cat, technically. Well, my girlfriend and I did rescue a husky. She started the rescue, but then she moved in three weeks later.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
That's along the lines of what I meant when I was saying I didn't want to didn't want to go too deep into it with the incontinence. But yeah, that's I. That's the heartbreaking part. Everything. Everything to me just sounds like like it was an abusive situation. Which, I mean, does does give reason for him to run away. You know.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
It sounds like there could have been an ongoing issue and then a straw that broke the camel's back. Yeah. Which, I mean, I got angry at my parents and ran down the block several times when I was a younger man.
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
I've covered essentially everything that I wanted to ask.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Yeah. I am curious. If he were to have run away, where is there anywhere you think he would have gone? Or at least tried to go to? My house. Your house? Is there anywhere else? Not that I know of. Would he have an idea of the route to your house? Yes. He would know it well enough to try and follow it?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Only if he knew them.
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
So he wouldn't have known how to get on a bus?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
What age is that?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
And I think it's 16. Yeah. I was going to say, we're from a much more metropolitan area, so that's probably to do with it. Yeah, that makes sense. Any trains that go that way? There are. Like regional trails, like rails? No? No. I was thinking, because that's what I was thinking, is if he knew that there was a rail stop, he might think to follow the rail tracks.
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Yeah, I was looking at the weather. It would have been low 50s at the most.
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
It was, I remember it being an unusually warm day, the 26th. Um, but even still, I mean, I don't know what his tolerance for cold is like, but being from down South, I would guess it's not as high as somebody from like Boston. So, I mean, I know that I would be cold if I was walking around in a long sleeve t-shirt in 50 degree weather at night.
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Gotcha. So he was, he liked to be warm. Yeah. Yeah, just it's, I mean, the version of events we got back in March never made sense, makes less sense now. All put together, I think it all points to, you know, at the very least one set of conclusions that all revolve around a very particular set of people. In my opinion, at least. So, I mean, is there anything you think...
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
So much of these random accusations, these weird things, I've been going back and forth with people on Twitter for a month who insist that, you know, Seth, you are in fact the candy man and you've been stealing children and you said it yourself, but all of the clips of it have been scrubbed from the internet. I'm using a fake example.
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Is it correct that the Amber Alert date has been changed to February 25th?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
I always had a feeling that was a mistake on their part.
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Which is good to know. Do you have any idea what the situation with Chris and Katie is? Are they talking to law enforcement? Do you know?
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Well, SF told us that himself. Yeah.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Yeah. I think the inference is pretty easy to make that, you know, if their PI, who is really more of a public relations person at this point than a private investigator, if he's not talking to the cops, then I doubt that they are talking to him. We haven't seen Katie in months. I heard rumors she had lawyered up. I wonder if her lawyer will come on the show.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
I am happy to be able to do it.
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
They need to stop focusing on you and start focusing on Sebastian. You weren't there. You were at work that night. Your alibi is as airtight as it can be. Just want to find my son. I know. And believe me, I can see that.
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Yes. The claim is that they derive from things Seth said. Yes. And now we have Seth categorically denying.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
And I think that's very clear. You've throughout this conversation have expressed that you wish we could get it back to Sebastian. I've had to remind you like, hey, there's there's things we got to got to explain to people before we can do that. But hopefully now that it's that we've done that. the focus can go back to being on Sebastian.
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
The focus can, you know, I'm sure there's going to be a litany of reviews coming up tomorrow where you have the same exact people as always reviewing this live stream, complaining, you know, but the fact of the matter is, I don't think that anybody can sit here and listen to what you've said and, and say that you don't want to find your son.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Yeah, so if we can be a small part in helping with that, that is all we want.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
to finding Sebastian I hope it does thank you Aiden and Aiden absolutely thank you guys for being here tonight I know you guys have to get rolling so I will release you to your obligations thank you so much for being on Seth I wish you only the best and I hope that this comes to a happy conclusion as soon as possible and until it does we're going to keep spreading the word because we want Sebastian found
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Yeah, Twitter cannot berate me enough. I will never stop.
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
You guys have a great rest of your evening. All right. You want to take us into our... The usual. Nice. Close that guy. All right. Well... I think Chris Proudfoot's guilty.
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
They're not nearly as uncomfortable as the old ones.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
How are you doing this?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
There was a reason I was really drilling down.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Yeah, I am... I think the most important part now is that... Not the most important part. The most important part is obviously still Sebastian. But what I think is important too about those rumors... is that it was all floating around. It was, oh, well, somebody said it here, and he said this here, and nobody could ever actually come up with an example. And what we've got now is Seth has come on.
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
He has categorically denied a number of these rumors. He has given an immense amount of clarity to several others that have shown them to be nowhere near what they are proposed to be. And it is now on the other people involved in these stories to come forward. And if Seth is not telling the truth, it is now on them to come forward and say, that was a lie.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
They can't keep hiding in the shadows and letting everybody else do the legwork for them. You know? So, I mean, I've said it before and I'll say it again. If Chris and Katie want to come on the show and give their side, I will even be nice to you. I won't enjoy it. but I will give you a fair shake. I gave it to see, I gave it to Steve.
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
I mean, you can't watch that interview with Steve and say I was unfair.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Because that was the point of this. There's a reason that we did not take super chats, that there's a fundraiser.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Yeah, I mean, I think it's I was a little I definitely want to hear, you know, from the horse's mouth on that, that the money has has been spent properly. And I do want to ask a couple more questions. But we went down to Tennessee back in November for a week. And it cost us like three, three and a half thousand dollars?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Yeah, I think... I don't think there's a damn thing that can be said about Seth at this point without Chris and Katie coming forward and giving their own statement on things. And I think the reason they won't do that is because they have said too much, and they will trip over themselves.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
You know, I... In a way, I'll actually... I'll say this much. I... I do think it's possible now that Sebastian actually did leave that house of his own volition. I mean, not getting caught on the cameras is a feat. But or I mean, to put it as Chris Proudfoot put it, you know, it's impressive. It's you know, he managed to evade all of the police and everyone.
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Um, you know, he sounded way too, I might not be actually act like I might have my quotes slightly off, but the point is what the point is. I went over it in the update video. Uh, But in order for him to have left that house, it must have been something sudden that caused him to say, I can't handle this anymore, which is interesting if Chris wasn't there. I will say I understand.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
I understand Seth doesn't want to say anything bad about Katie. I get it. And I understand that it's largely because, you know, if and when Sebastian comes home, he doesn't want him to see that there was mudslinging. At the same time, there's a lot of things Katie's got to answer for. I mean, the way this was played for a long time was that if anyone was the driver, it was Chris.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
And even I felt that way at the beginning. But I started to have suspicions about Katie over the last month and a half or so. And then a lot of those were, I wouldn't say confirmed tonight, but I was given a lot more reason to believe them tonight. Oh, who is that? That's my mother. I saw. Do we have one?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
I know we're going to post the flyer on the channel. Yeah, I think we'll hold off. That's probably... It's a lot to figure out.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Yeah. I am so angry right now. I wish we'd caught it early. I wish I had... When we hit the Riley Strain video and I saw the name Sebastian Rogers and I looked at it briefly, I wish that I had... I wish I drilled down. I'm mad at myself that I didn't. But I think what's important is tonight, I think, really... I hope refocuses it on Sebastian.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Just to go down and shoot a video? Yeah. I think people often don't realize, people who don't travel much, who don't do this kind of thing, don't realize how much you end up spending in a very short period of time on hotels and gas and food. And then when you add in signs to the mix and things like that, that cost can balloon into the thousands of dollars really quickly. Yeah.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
You know, I can't promise we're going to be able to have done that, but my hope is that the, you know, how many people are watching?
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
So I hope the 7,000 people that we're watching and the probably 100 or so thousand people that I'll end up seeing this episode if it goes anywhere near the way Fisher did, I just hope that we can bring the focus back to Sebastian, that we can stop obsessing over rumors that Seth had a thing for Katie when she was 12.
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
because that rumor seems to have originated with people who misunderstood something Seth may or may not have said, if anything. So I hope that we can stop focusing on nonsense like that and start paying attention to Sebastian. And I really hope that all of these people who have obsessed for a year now over rumors about Seth that have zero backing to them, as we've now seen,
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
I would hope those people turn that same level of focus onto Chris Proudfoot and Katie Proudfoot. Because apparently, we need to spend a year, and then this entire podcast on a platform with 630,000 subscribers, we need to spend all that time to say, no, these things didn't happen. But these people haven't spent a moment... reading through the New Mexico court records on the divorce case.
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
They have not spent a moment looking into whether or not what Nina said could be corroborated. They have not spent a moment looking at the timelines here about when these people got together because Chris and Katie were definitely together before the divorce was finalized. Chris and Nina, or Chris and Katie from what it seems, were together before the divorce with Nina was finalized.
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Both of these people appear to have been cheating. I mean, and then to add on the diapers and the fact that he didn't wear them at Seth's and didn't need to wear them at Seth's. This is the thing I wasn't going to say while Seth was on. Incontinence points to especially selective incontinence like that. That would point to abuse and incontinence specifically does point to one kind of abuse.
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
I, we mentioned this with, I don't think we actually, we actually haven't mentioned this. I don't think with JonBenet yet, but, and the JonBenet series, I'm still working on it, guys. It would help if more people watched it so that I didn't have to freak out every time we do it. Um, but yeah, we're working on the JonBenet series is not done.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
It's just going to be a little bit more spaced out than we've intended, which was going to be once a month. Um, I might be able to find a way to do longer episodes that are worth two of what the other four have been. But point is, one of the things that was looked at with JonBenet was she had a bedwetting problem.
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
And to a lot of people, this suggested, especially in line with the physical trauma to a certain area of her body, this suggested that she may have been a chronic sexual abuse victim. Which is a lot less visible on a boy. But it's not out of the question. And the incontinence does suggest, at the very least, abuse. I mean, I am... No wonder he didn't have friends.
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
So it doesn't surprise me that $25,000 was spent on this. So what I wanted to ask as a follow-up is, I believe, from what I've seen, this originated from T-Rev, from Trevor Lee, that you had given some money to a person to pay rent or mortgage or something like that. Is that true? Did you send money to anybody from that account?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
They didn't let him out of the house. Like, I mean, they kept this kid trapped inside. The way they described him, the Proudfoots, was like he was this totally isolated kid who didn't know how to interact with others and was, you know, ripe for being a victim of an older person or an older child. Meanwhile, we're hearing that he's playing extraordinarily complex games.
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
I mean, Magic the Gathering, have you ever played it? Personally, I've not. It's not, it's not simple. It's more complicated than Pokemon. It's more complicated than Yu-Gi-Oh. Dungeons and Dragons. Not a simple thing to play. There is a lot to memorize. There's a lot of quick thinking going around. There's a lot of interacting with the people in the room with you.
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
It feels like it has to be malicious. It feels like Chris and Katie covering their tracks. And I don't know if that means that something happened in that house and Sebastian ran out and Katie didn't call the police, or Chris, I guess, is the one who called the police, but nobody called the police until the morning and they feel guilty about that. It could be that. It could be worse.
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
It could be something a lot more direct. I don't know which. But the more I learned about this case, the more certain I become, in my opinion, that something happened in that house. And no matter what, no matter how Sebastian got out of the home, I don't think it's up for debate anymore, in my opinion, that Chris and Katie are responsible.
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
That's the other thing. Seth was just here for two and a half hours. He had to take breaks because he was crying. Understandably so. Understandably so. Chris and Katie won't go anywhere that they're not coddled. I mean, I asked Seth a lot of hard questions tonight. You know, I asked him as gently as I could, but I essentially asked the man if he groomed his ex-wife.
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
I didn't like having to ask that question, but it was asked. I don't think Katie's appeared in front of a camera in almost, God, probably over six months. And as for what they've said about Sebastian, what they've said about the night, it's been nothing.
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
most of what Chris even does when he does show up, and he hasn't since December, I think, is he just kind of, like, pitches fits at people and complains and tries to make Seth out to be the bad guy. Like, he just deflects and deflects and deflects. And the way Seth, I mean, keep in mind, Chris has been in Sebastian's life for half of it. And he talks about this kid like he's a pet.
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
He talks about Sebastian like he's a dog that behaves badly. Seth? It was, I was almost crying at several points. That's, to me, that is what it should look like when your child is missing and you're at a loss. And what do we get with Chris and Katie? It was, you know, barely emotional. Steve Fisher, you son of a bitch. I hope you get yours, too. Said you weren't watching. I'm sure you are.
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Nobody can... If his name gets... He's like Beetlejuice, I bet. Gotta be anywhere his name is. Anyway, do you have any final thoughts? That aren't calls to violence? Because I have a lot of calls to violence. Yeah. I have so many of those up here right now.
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Okay, so just off of that, flat-out denial?
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
I have no violent thoughts. None whatsoever. None whatsoever. But yeah, I mean... The key was getting refocused on Sebastian, and I think... I hope we were able to do that.
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
I saw. Somebody sent that to me just before the show.
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Oh, yeah. That's the amazing part about it. I mean, I love that we get to do what we do for a living, as hard as it often is. But it is fulfilling. It is fulfilling.
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
I never thought I'd be interviewing the father of a missing child.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Yeah, which leads me to wonder where the hell did this story actually even come from? Is he walking it back? Like, it doesn't really matter at the end of the day, but it's a it's a rumor. And it's if something like that had happened, you would think that somebody would be able to come forward and say, yeah, here's the receipt from me being given the money. But we don't have that.
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
We have a pretty damn good community here. I've said it before. You guys who make this show and this channel possible are rock stars. Any good we've been able to do has been because of you guys.
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
by the same token anything bad we've been able to do is because of you guys so keep it out keep an eye on it if I go down it's your fault too but point is the good things that we are able to do the money we've been able to raise over the years you know tens of thousands of dollars to that has gone to organizations that focus on fighting domestic abuse that focus on finding missing children preventing exploitation things like that I mean
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
I think it's somewhere around like 25 grand that we've raised, uh, between fundraisers, uh, helping out with the Appalachia, um, the devastation they went through, uh, late last year. You guys have allowed us to do so much. Um,
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
I really am grateful, not just for the things that have been nice for us, being able to build a company and a career out of this, but also for the good that it helps us to do. I hope that as we grow and as we continue to be here, we can offer more and more back to communities, back to victims of things. That's the crazy thing, sitting here and realizing that now we've talked to Talked to Seth.
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
We've talked to Todd. Not Todd. Not Todd Guide. We've covered so many cases. Tommy Booth. Talked to Tommy Booth's parents. I... I just can't believe we're here.
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
I'd love to be able to get a website set up that just houses information about these things. We don't have time for that. No, unfortunately not. We need like three or four employees to get to where we want to be. So we'll get there. We're working on it. It's happening. All right. So all that said, I think it's about time to sign off. It is getting very late.
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
For those who do watch the Friday streams, not the show that goes up on Friday on this channel, that will be normal. That'll be up Friday afternoon at 4 p.m. But for those who watch my gaming live streams on the Aiden Mattis channel, I will be down in South Carolina. So I will not be doing that. Maybe you will. I don't know. Maybe I'll give somebody else access. Maybe I'll let PJ run a stream.
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
I'm not going to let PJ run a stream. I'm scared of the results. But yeah, that is the announcement I have on my end. If you haven't seen Friday's video, please watch it. YouTube is not happy with us after the Philadelphia Experiment video.
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
You can't talk about certain things, and we talked about them 12 times. Number would be nice to have. Anyway. You got anything to say? Any final thoughts? You don't have to.
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
But my point is everybody keeps insisting that things have been said, things have been done. And then when it's time to present the evidence, as we gave Steve Fisher a chance to do when he came on the show, uh, it doesn't materialize and they claim it's been deleted. They claim it's, you know, somewhere else. So I want to get to the bottom of some of these rumors.
The Lore Lads
Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Oh, yeah. Y'all kids like cannibalism? Because we're talking about the Colorado cannibal. Yeah, the man, the myth, the legend, the Democrat eater, Alfred Packer. How many different nickels do you have for this story? There's a lot of nickels. There's at least three for the one thing. And there's two for the other. One for the money, two for the show. Ready to get ready.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
What was the other one that we had nickels for?
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like a mini Donner party.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
It's great. I mean, it's not. It's a horrible, tragic story. Very confusing, though. Funny at times as well.
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There is mood lighting. There is mood lighting. I... I mean, there's one part you got to watch for, and it's going to involve a cowboy hat. Take that as you will.
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Yeah, at least one rootin' tootin'. And by God, they did be shooting. All right. Thank you, everybody, for watching. I hope this was a good episode. I hope everybody took something away from it. And we will see you all again potentially next Monday, if I am back yet. We'll find out.
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All right. Thank you, everybody. Bye, guys.
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So, so that's important what you just said before $50 is sent to him. So Seth, you don't have, you are not the steward of this money.
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Okay. So your sister is. All right. And was there any specific incident or a pattern, something like that, that led to a decision where there was kind of a committee whenever money needs to be spent? Or was that just kind of a natural development?
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All right. Yeah, that answers that. So, you know, kind of moving along with this, another one of the issues that I've seen commonly paraded around, and this one's going to be a little tough to discuss, probably, but it's by far the most serious claim that's been made.
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I don't like it. No, it's... Considering the scenario, it's too much of a stretch. Because it's... The house is complicated.
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Hang on. Got to make sure it's pulled up. Second floor, you said? Yep. All right. And boom, we got second floor. Aiden, where is JonBenet's bedroom? JonBenet's bedroom looks like it's on the northwest side of the house.
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Burke's bedroom looks like it's on the southeast side of the house.
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Honestly, it looks more like two here. Looks like if you're going to be here, you've got to go here and then there.
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Definitely do exactly the opposite of what the instructions of the people that kidnapped my daughter say to do. Right.
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I don't remember if it said, like, I'm imagining it said cash. I know it said in a proper attache.
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P-O-S, I'm assuming it's P-O-S-S-E-S-I-O-N.
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Not a native English speaker? I mean, they're both going to be relatively difficult, but probably... I don't know.
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Are there any other words with double S's at any point in there with correct spelling? Because it seems like the only words with incorrect spelling are those two with the double S. Yeah.
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Yeah, so here's the thing real quick before you continue is that police, I could theoretically understand in a panic. I can understand calling the cops. Yeah. The friends make zero sense whatsoever after reading that note.
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But that makes far more sense than calling your friends after that note.
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Oh, he said he didn't know anything. He just said they needed him.
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That's not normal. No, it's extremely not normal, especially considering that the vast majority of incidents in which an active investigation is going on Even if you're a suspect or not, you do not get to know the details of an ongoing investigation, especially if you're a potential suspect.
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But here it makes almost no sense whatsoever that they would have any knowledge about what the police are doing.
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Which, to be very clear, was how long after this incident? Four months. And what is the reason that they didn't do a proper interview? Well, hang on, to my understanding... The Ramseys kept refusing. Well, here's the thing, but they said they talked to the police.
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They said that they talked to the police early on, so they didn't understand why everybody kept saying that they didn't talk to the police.
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Just out of curiosity, how far into the first chapter did you find the first contradiction or something that was just out of line in general from the research that you've done?
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Yes, I'm sure that the incident where they left Atlanta to go back to Boulder was a similar scenario, that he just had a meeting pop up that he really couldn't miss, that he had to leave for immediately.
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Just real quick, I think that generally applies. It does, but not when there's a ransom note. That's exactly what I was going to say. If a child is missing and your child might be somewhere in the home, it makes sense to do a really thorough search, but not when there is a three-page note that says, we've taken your child. Yeah.
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Also the day that all of this occurred.
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And by there, you specifically mean at the Fernies?
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Well, given the amount of inconsistencies in the previous elements of the book, what would you consider the more likely scenario to be? Come on, we both know what I think that is.
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I mean, the only thing I can think of is essentially if you're assuming that you're going to be going somewhere like lunch or something directly after the flight and not like to somewhere that you're going to stay.
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You were saying a conversation that can't have happened on the 27th is supposedly happening on the 27th. I thought it had to have happened on the 27th.
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So, to clarify, he is implying that that conversation happened on the 26th.
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Got it. Okay. Just want to make sure that that's clear for the audience.
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That's not the primary issue in this scenario.
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I think one of the big issues that you've run into on TikTok and other platforms is that there seems to be a gap in the understanding that it's not that they messed up in the beginning. It's that they were operating under standard procedures for a kidnapping and it turned out to not be a kidnapping. It's not that they messed that up. It's that the scenario of the incident and the case...
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And you went very well into that with Thomas and the number of detective stories in the last episode.
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And remind me again, whose story is that?
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That's the thing is when you read those two people, you also have to understand the position they're both in is that one person, the prosecutor, is trying to get this person to say something that will benefit their case.
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Whereas the person on the stand is in a position where they're trying to make sure that they don't do anything that could then incriminate themselves unintentionally in something that they were not involved in directly. But because the legal system likes to find any scapegoat they can, people need to defend themselves as much as frequently possible.
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It's driving me insane. And what is it specifically? So the call not coming would be in reference to which call in particular?
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It's constructing the story in the way it's told in a narrative format that essentially attributes more or less probable cause in this scenario of... I guess, ignorance or stupidity or incompetence to the police. Yep.
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It is about... It is reloading.
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Yeah, what was the scenario with Thomas? Not the one you described earlier in this show, but the other one that you described on the Friday video?
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And then what was the one scenario that Thomas got into with not the knife guy, but there was the other one.
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Do you remember what the reprimand specifically was? I have a feeling you do. No, I just remember it was somewhere along the lines of... You just had to go to internal affairs.
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Oh, yeah, no, that's right. I think it was some form of anger management training.
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super chat time super chat time uh general similar scenario as last week especially given the subject matter we're going to keep things relevant um but we appreciate all chats nonetheless the first one of relevant super chats is from shepherd for twenty dollars uh says people will only watch the netflix documentary like that's the best thing ever produced on the subject then drag someone in tiktok comments when they say i think the ramses did it ask me how i know
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Well, there are times in the timeline that he didn't give us that could have made sense. But it's weird that the timeline that other people, you know, yeah.
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That's fair. We'll say, what was it? Cody Bassett was thanking us for what we do. Gom has sent a number of things. Very kindly. Thank you, Gom. Jmo's saying, read Berserk. Kellen is saying, Emo's just country cosplaying as punk. That's all. Yeah. Just acknowledging a few of these because we don't want to fully leave you out. Yeah.
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It's true. Cody's also recommending we watch The Terror. I don't know if you've heard of that show, but it's the Arctic expedition. The ship that got stuck in the ice. Might honestly be something worth covering at some point. There's something else I thought of today that I was like, I really want to cover that. Now I can't remember what it was. There's a lot of good options.
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Also, Ashley, thank you for...
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watching but i don't know what problem i have with oklahoma i wasn't aware that i had one maybe i made a joke about oklahoma at some point but no oklahoma's cool hi how do you i don't know she was saying what's my problem with oklahoma specifically and i was like i don't know i didn't know i had one oklahoma yeah um but specifically so there ain't no love in oklahoma true
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Yes, there's actually two of them that seem not to be.
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But the next relevant ones from Ozzy Walker for 2024 love the specificity saying finally live again. Fun fact, children are essentially sociopaths in the first few years of life. They learn to be proper human beings by six years old. Otherwise, try and practice patience. I have spoken perchance.
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fair uh but yeah basically from what i understand i didn't take the child uh psychological development course in college but i had friends who did and that lines up pretty well with uh the curriculum that they were being taught that yeah your uh your your children uh need to learn how to be functional humans and that's a heavy part of being a parent especially in those first six to ten years yeah i i also think there is a solid possibility that uh it
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Next is from Alex saying thank you for the forensics of the boy in the box presentation. That was good. Professor in the class are intrigued by the work now, too. Also survived a car crash on Friday. Oh, nice. Well done. Hell yeah, brother. Atta boy. That is the best outcome. Ryan is saying that he's shared the new episodes with his mom. Thank you. Thank you.
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And then Eleanor the Howler Werewolf Queen for 50 bucks gave us a PTSD therapy fund. Put it to good use. Thank you. We need it more than you now.
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Yep. And then Ryan was asking for $2.31. What Michigan City were they headed to? Do we know?
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That sounds right. I feel like I remember you saying they were going to the Upper Peninsula earlier in this episode. Here he is.
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In addition to that historical chaos, who's been a member for 11 months.
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But she asked specifically more dates.
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Got it. Yeah, she states, some women never leave the house without getting dolled up. The further you go back in history, the more women this is true for.
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Yeah, also, like, I'm fairly certain if you own the plane, you can show up generally whenever. It just, you know, you have to clear it with ATC when you're getting ready to go on the runway.
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Also, regardless of everything else in that regard, this is 1996. There was no airport security. No TSA. That's not even a concern. You just show up, even if it was a private airport, you know, that negates that even more. Yeah. But yeah, no, there was no, they were driving there themselves. It was their plane. It was their pilot.
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Yeah, also, considering this is more like a road trip by equivalence, I know for my family in particular, we would say we're going to leave by 10 in the morning.
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Even if she got really good at it.
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Also, I'm sorry. I don't care how much you care about your appearance or how you look to other people. If your daughter's missing, your priority is not how you look that morning. Yeah. No, I don't think she ever makeup on that morning.
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I think she had the makeup on already. No, that's my point. Is that if the presumption is that you went to bed, took your makeup off before you went to bed, got up, discovered that your child was missing, you're not then going to be motivated to put makeup on. You also aren't going to have time. No.
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And that seals the deal enough. But even if she had the time, I can't imagine any mother who loves their child the way that it is described she loved JonBenet that would even think about putting makeup on before finding their child.
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But Lunar Anarchy gave us $1.57. Thank you. TCF gave us a currency of $1,500 that I do not recognize. It's abbreviated ISK. Oh, wait, wait, wait. Sorry, I forgot about one more lie.
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But Madison, we're back to you.
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But you have to understand that when you're a woman and you have so many different things that you need to do in the shower, it's very difficult to move all of those things from one shower to another. Oops.
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Understandably so. But yes, so TCF said Spidey from behavioral arts on his community tab said he's looking to talk to someone who has done a deep dive into this story specifically because of some things he has in mind. If you would like to reach out to him.
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And then following that Pluto's Pulsar for $5 or Pulsar, I guess would be the proper terminology says, thank you for making your videos so that I can cite them in my research paper.
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Imagine, imagine the time and then add two hours. Yeah.
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uh but yeah pluto's pulsar for five dollars says thank you for making your videos so that i can cite them in my research papers uh parentheses i cited your wendigo which you gave video for my anthro final oh thank you that's cool i was gonna say that's gonna make you proud as a historian um let me know if you would like uh anything else because i'm i'm happy to share everything's supposed to be up on patreon again aiden and i are just so swamped we uh
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We're waiting on starting new shows until I'm able to stop editing as much as I am to be able to then go and film these shows in all the places we want to film.
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There are opportunities in front of us, but finding the correct thing that we want to continue the quality at what it is or better is easier said than done.
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Supposed to be, I think it's the 18th or the 19th, that Friday that's coming out. I figured it would be a nice little treat prior to Christmas week.
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Following that, NC Squatch is asking, my soul craves the Lore Lodge and the uncensored freedom of Pepperbox. Possible?
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Again, things we just need the time to do. Yeah.
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But what if you're in a pinch?
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Yeah. That's the dream. Mm-hmm. Nonetheless, next, uh, Elena has given us more PTSD money.
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Honestly, yeah. Uh, Hysterical Chaos for $10 says, Observe, named Logan, just released a compilation of interviews and evidence he analyzed throughout the years of the Ramseys with extensive details about the case that will fill some of the details that you're missing, apparently.
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Well, yeah, I think this was potentially trying to essentially make up for the Dr. Phil interview and the CBS thing. I think this was probably pitched as early as 2018, if not earlier, in an attempt to get this done even before COVID, but, you know.
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I agree. Uh, do a black rose for $5 says between this case and Peter for Sally's book, I'm starting to think that the district attorney mess up, uh, way more than the cops.
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Yep. Another one from a couple people gave us money for the PTSD fund, but Nate specifically said, how did they determine that the items, the paintbrush, the notepad, the tape, et cetera, came from inside of the house if the housekeeper also had those same items?
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We might as well just start calling these recitations.
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Because it's basically the Friday video is the lecture and then this is the recitation. This is Lodge MD. Yeah, basically.
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What is standard operating procedure for police detectives interviewing or interrogating a suspect? You never interview suspects together.
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Then you might. Yeah, because the whole point is you're trying to figure out where the non-linear elements of their stories are so you can determine who is and is not telling the truth.
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It is. Uh, next one from vampire from Pluto for 10, 24 says bedwetting can be a sign of a kid being too scared to leave their bedroom. Maybe JonBenet was scared of who would find her, uh, out of bed slash what would happen if caught thoughts.
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One also really quickly.
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Yeah, the linguistics person. How many things had they analyzed and how many times were they right? How many times were they wrong? Foster?
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About what she found or when she found it? It was the note going down the stairs, correct?
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And that was going to be my question, was whether or not that was beyond a reasonable doubt for you.
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So we're coming up on nine, so we're going to prioritize here. But one thing that was worth touching on was what Warden Commander Kuslan said for $10, saying, how has the DA never been charged, disbarred, fired, or had anything negative happen to him? It's baffling and really kills any faith in the justice system.
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So to clarify really quickly, because this one, did she mention JonBenet in this one? No.
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there's two more that I think are worth getting to before we have to wrap things up.
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One is a good synopsis of a number of questions that are asking about the essay from thecastman777 saying, I think we should take the theory that Jon was providing JonBenet seriously in relation to the fact that she was a beauty queen, his family was associated with North Fox Island, and she had signs of that before she died. I wanted to get your opinion on that.
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For those who aren't familiar, can you describe a little bit about what exactly that is?
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Yeah, I was wondering what that was.
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Yep. No, I would agree with that. A couple things. Hi, Mom. She's been talking about things in the chat, particularly how popular pageants were at that time. Again, weird. Yeah. And then, so two things. One was there were a number of people asking about Burke. Yeah. And I wasn't sure how much you might want to go into that at this point. Sure. Well, hit me.
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Just generally, like, thoughts on that element of the investigation. Yeah.
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about the reality of that kind of thing. Well, they just didn't have the access to information that we do now.
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Now, four-year-olds have no idea what the hell they're talking about.
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This strikes me as the stereotypical trophy wife of a businessman who works all the time doing her side hobby that loses $10,000 a month. It's mostly a joke, but it happens. It's a real thing.
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In terms of bookending this episode, there is one last thing for $100 that came in from Melancholia Von Misery for a case request that is not this case. Okay. Well, thank you, first of all. Yeah, big thank you. Very generous. I'm using my birthday money to ask you, which is already far more than you need to do. If you haven't already covered the Marshall Iwasa case, please do.
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He went missing in 2019, but it's an extremely bizarre and frustrating local case here in Canada that involves the wilderness. We could really use your brain on this. Thank you.
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It's going to be regular spelling of Marshall with one L and then I-W-A-A-S-A.
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Near Naren Falls Provincial Park. Weird. That'd be nice if this actually zoomed out when I'm asking it to. It's near Whistler. Hang on, hang on. Just north of Vancouver.
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I mean, it could be explained by cash purchases, but that's still unusual, especially in 2019.
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And important note to clarify, this is the staircase they use to get up and down from their bedroom, right?
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Minimum. A 2009 GMC Sierra, what's the lowest engine? Yeah, minimum three stops for gas on that one.
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Yeah. Which is the smallest engine. That's a 14. Yeah, 14 city, 18 highway, combined 16 miles per gallon on the base model engine, which was a V6 4.3 liter.
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Yeah, that makes the most sense.
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Ape Canyon exists in the story, but is not the main story.
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That's the back of the house. Did she say why she took this staircase down?
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That's the goal. That's the goal with anything we research. Well, he researches, we produce. You've helped. Yeah. I bounce ideas. Yeah. But anyway, thank you, everybody. Thank you. We'll see you on Friday and next Monday.
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Yep. Also, I'm assuming you're going to allude to this considering the emphasis that you put on it. And also the weird emphasis that she put on it is noting specifically about the twenty five hundred that she had to land in that. Oh, I got to put a check out for that feels like she's planting information in for a specific reason.
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I'll tell you, man, you don't get to be CEO by giving out favors. That's how I became a CEO. Yeah, but that goes against the narrative of the American national CEO. But yeah, you know, it is Christmas.
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Yeah, I mean, this is essentially what we do on a daily basis or a semi-daily basis. It's like, literally, you called me today.
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We did both. Yeah. That's the funny part. It's like, you called me and then you were like, this is not enough, and then you knocked on my door.
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George fought a dragon, right? Beowulf fought the monster Grendel. These are people who were likely real soldiers, real warriors. Did they do the things that they're said to have done? Probably not. St. George and the Dragon actually might be derived from an older legend from somewhere in Eastern Europe too, but that's a whole different thing.
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It also drives me nuts when people don't know that story.
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It's like one of the... The gist of it is that there was a man named St. George and he slew a dragon.
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I think it was post-Crusades.
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There's a knight who slays a dragon. I think it comes from a story from Byzantium of one of their... leaders who supposedly slew a dragon and it made its way west and became part of English folklore. Anyway, we get a lot of stories throughout time that come out of militaries, that come out of these campaigns that are really nothing more than ghost stories.
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I feel bad dating on Andy Reid. That one hurts.
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And while I would love to believe that the U.S. Army encountered a giant in Kandahar, It's that thing where when a detailed version of the story comes out, it kind of hurts the credibility. I don't believe Mr. K on this. It doesn't help that the interview has been deleted from the internet and is only available in excerpts now elsewhere.
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Maybe there's more to the story that he tells that makes it make more sense, but the version I heard from Mr. Ballin, who, to my understanding, has seen the whole interview... didn't really add anything outside of what we found. And it also strikes me as a little odd that this story seems to appear in public for the first time
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I also felt bad watching those NFC championship games.
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From a pilot who has to be prompted over and over again on what he's supposed to be saying. Stephen Quayle is the first guy to bring this to the public. He brings it to Coast to Coast AM. And then he says that the entire letter he received from this pilot would be published in the book he's talking about on a later episode in 2008. But then I bought the book. The letter's not in it.
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So everywhere I turned while I was researching this story... It was just less and less believable. There were more and more reasons to ask questions.
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And even if this pilot who Quayle had on was genuinely a pilot and did see this thing in real life, as Quayle continues talking, you can tell, like, you can't see any of them because it's radio, but the pilot you can tell is kind of like, well, I don't know about all that. Like, whoa, okay, what about, what is this about, like, angels trapped under dams? What, huh?
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Yeah, yeah, that's not fun. I mean, there was the whole thing with the spying and all that. Certain somebody up in New England. Yeah, it didn't help. Yeah, no, that wasn't great. But, you know what? Let bygones be bygones. I just had to brag a little bit, especially because it hurt watching Penn State get clobbered.
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And that's the other thing, is the Mr. D guy who is brought up in the Marzulli interview, he does, what? What's going on?
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Low sound or no sound? Low. God, why does YouTube do this to us? I don't know. That's probably what Amanda's calling about.
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Yeah, I've got a few people. Yeah, how quiet are we talking here? Hang on, let me pull it up. Because...
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that's this what you're hearing oh okay yeah yeah I was worried about it might have been your mic but no guys I don't know what to tell you as far as we can tell on our personal devices the volume is fine like it's fine on our end it's fine on our devices I'd say refresh the page maybe and maybe I'm just talking more quietly
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I mean, could that be it? Am I just talking too quiet?
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Yeah, I don't know, because... What are people saying now?
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Yeah. So... So I don't know. I don't know what's going on. I can try and talk louder, but on our end, as far as we can tell, all of the sound is perfectly normal.
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Not even all that clobbered, just it hurt watching them lose when it was that close. But after seeing what happened in Notre Dame, I'm glad we didn't win that game. I would not have wanted to lose to Ohio State on the national scene. Anyway, we have giants to talk about and not the New York ones who won't be sniffing an NFC championship game for another 30 years.
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Yeah. Um, I, what I would think might've happened is maybe we peaked.
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Yeah, no, I'm frustrating. I don't know what to tell you. Yeah, no. Um, But my point in all this is to say that I don't find there to be a profound amount of evidence that this story is true, that these events actually happened. Yeah. And the fact that there's only this one detailed account and that the guy says stuff that just rings a bunch of alarm bells for me.
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Uh, and I, and I talked through this with Eli too. Uh, and I was like, does any of this sound right to you? And he was like, no, not at all, which again, even if they were carrying in 50 cows, I find it very unlikely. The 50 cows wouldn't work and that they need to shoot the thing in the head. They, he says it all took place in under 30 seconds. Um,
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I don't know, the whole thing just seems a little suspect to me. And the fact that there are two different stories told about seemingly the same event. And a lot of people in the comments were like, well, if there were two different stories, maybe it's two different incidents. And I'm like, how many giants are hanging out in Kandahar? Only one way to find out.
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Both of these supposedly occurred in the same province. I feel like if it happened twice, there would be more mentions of it. Then you're asking a lot of people to keep quiet. It also strikes me as just a little odd that if you were going to keep something that secret, that under wraps, that you'd just fly it to a regular base in broad daylight and drop it there for a whole bunch of grunts to see.
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I mean, Special Forces, yeah, they'll keep their mouths closed. They'll sign their NDAs. They'll do all that. The flight mechanics? The guys gassing up the helicopters and the jets? We're all standing around watching a bunch of soldiers poke and prod a giant? I feel like we have more than two people who came forward to tell this story, especially when it's so easy to do things anonymously now.
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And the thing is, if we had, you know... 14, 15 people who came out and were like, yeah, this is what I saw, and they all told mostly the same story with minor deviations. That I'm going to believe, or at least be more willing to believe.
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It's the fact that we have literally two people who claim to have actually been there, one of whom is just the pilot, and the other is from the Special Forces team, and that even their stories are drastically different. Some people point out that it was a little hard to tell Marines from Army at the time. I don't know how hard... I mean...
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So, you know, the commanders, though, on the other hand, I'm a little afraid of. Fair. They are looking – they're going to be looking scary for a few years here, especially once free agency hits and we see how their GM does. Anyway, this is not a football show. This is a show made by two Philadelphians, which makes it a football show every Monday. But this show is every Monday.
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Yeah, I could see it being possible. What I can't see is he called them babysitters and said they were in the plane with him the whole way to whatever the... the next stop was where they were loading this thing onto an even bigger jet. Some people were like, you know, well, technically a turboprop is a jet. And I'm like, okay, well you get where I'm coming from here. Right.
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You know, like I, I feel like if you were on a plane with a bunch of Marines for several hours, you'd know they were Marines as opposed to army special forces.
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That's a cultural difference. Like your average Marine is a different kind of person from your average Green Beret.
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Typically, there's different personalities that drive you to join the Army or the Marines in general. I've talked to Marines. I've talked to Rangers. I've even spoken to a couple of Green Berets. I clocked the Marines as Marines. The other guy's not necessarily. The Marines I clocked as Marines really quick. Partially because they like to mention they're Marines. And that's not a dig.
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Yeah. Somebody who's in Special Forces might not tell you they were in Special Forces. Somebody who's a Marine is going to tell you they're a Marine. So is this all circumstantial? Is this all kind of hearsay? Yeah, but so is the entire story. So I'm not going to say it didn't happen. I'm not going to say that I'm the expert on what was possible in Kandahar in 2002.
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I'm just saying that from what I've seen of this, I am not convinced. I am not particularly confident that this actually happened. If I were provided evidence to the contrary, I'd absolutely change my opinion. And I would I personally would feel vindicated in a number of ways. You know, like if. There does turn out to be a giant out there. That's interesting.
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It also helps promote Heiser, in your opinion, at the end of the video. Exactly. Nephilim are an actual thing to consider. Every once in a while, I like how something comes along that gets people to comment things like, wait, you believe in this? I'm like, yeah. Ha ha ha! That's right, I do.
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But no, honestly, I think it would support from the academic point of view between people who are like the line of Cain versus the line of Seth versus the Nephilim. I would feel justified if there were something that represented what's described in Genesis. And then there is one other thing, too.
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When it comes to stories of giants, red-haired giants even, we looked at one of those a couple of years ago. The Sita Ka, the Giants of Lovelock Cave. And do you remember what we found as we looked deeper and deeper into the actual accounts of these things and the actual archaeology and history work that was done?
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That's not a good point. Anyway. Every Monday between August and January. We have an actual thing to talk about tonight, which is the Giant of Kandahar, which I – I don't know. Aiden, how do you feel?
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Yeah, well, more specifically that we're told about red-headed giants, right? And that's the common story. They were giants. They were giants. They were cannibals, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then as I was reading through it, I could not find a single reference from any of the actual native storytellers to them being giant. We were tall. They were taller than normal. That's not giant.
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They don't use the term giant. They don't seem to think that the word giant would be applicable. And what they describe are very much people. They are cannibals, but they speak human language. They are actually more primitive than the Paiute. That doesn't match with the Nephilim thing either, because the Nephilim in the Bible are, you know, depending on who you ask.
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And if we look at the extra biblical texts as well, you have Enoch, for example, in the book of Giants. Those are different things. Those talk about like the Watchers who would have been the fathers of these Nephilim giants. as being, they give humanity all of these different types of knowledge.
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Things like how to wear makeup, how to do certain things with fire, how to make weapons, how to smelt metal, all of these things. If we're going to make the argument that these things are all of the Nephilim, which is what people like Stephen Quayle do, if you look at the other things he says about giants, it's all about the Nephilim. Well, that doesn't match either.
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So we go back through the Sita Khan. We find as you pair it back, you get from they were redheaded giants to they were a slightly taller tribe that lived 50 miles away. Same thing happens with the Patagonia Giants. I think it's the Spanish or the Portuguese get there in the 1500s, early 1600s, and they go, oh, there are giants out there.
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They're like, standing straight, we were only reaching their belly buttons. And then the next group comes through, the Spanish or the Portuguese, whichever wasn't the first time around, they're like, oh, they were tall, but probably only like 12 feet. you know, like 10 to 12 feet maybe. And then another group comes through and it's like, Oh, they were probably like eight to nine feet.
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And then the English get there and they're like, Oh, these dudes are six and a half feet tall. That's wild. So it, it kind of cascades down. And it happens with every giant story I come across from the modern day, which is like, oh, well, you know, there were giants. And then it's, okay, well, there were some people who were a little taller than usual.
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Oh, well, what about the skeletons in the Smithsonian? Well, if you actually go and look at the reports on these things, they're described as being rather large, like six and a half to seven feet.
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Very possible. And in a primitive world, in 500 years ago, no matter where you are on Earth, you come across a seven-foot-tall person, you're going, oh. Oh, wow. Yeah, because what was the average height back then? Anywhere between 5'6 and 5'8. Yeah. People were not customarily that tall. So when you had somebody who was, it was noticeable. I...
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Hello, ladies and gentlemen of the lodge. How are you today, Aiden? I'm doing all right. How are you doing? How are you feeling? I'm feeling great after yesterday's win. I'm feeling good. I'm feeling like... I'm feeling like it might happen.
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So just in case you guys haven't seen Friday's video and you haven't heard of the Giant of Kandahar, the short version here is that back in the early 2000s, this is how the story always goes, back in the early 2000s, a team of U.S. either soldiers or Marines encountered a giant in the mountains of Afghanistan.
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And also there's the kind of whisper-down-the-lane effect that comes, because you're on your voyage. By the time you get back, you might not even be aware that you've inflated the size of the thing you saw. It might just, in your brain, be that big now, because as you've told the story over and over and over again...
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The embellishments become hard to differentiate from the story itself, from what actually happened. And I think that happens a lot. And one of the reasons I find the biblical account so interesting is that what they talk about, they give a lot of very reasonable numbers. They talk about the giants like Goliath.
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And it doesn't specifically say Goliath was this tall, if I remember correctly, but you get stories about the Rephaim and all of these other, which Rephaim is an interesting word that I'll have to get to when we get to the stuff on Heiser's work. But they talk about these guys as being tall enough to sleep on beds that are about 10 feet long. That doesn't mean that they're 10 feet tall.
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What it means is that they are shorter than 10 feet. That is a much more manageable number. That is something that is feasible. That's not out of the question. And so when you look at the biblical accounts, you're greeted with, okay, if there was embellishment, it was pretty minor here. Maybe these guys were exceptionally tall.
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Maybe there was a tribe out there that was exceptionally tall, and they had to deal with that. it's very different from a lot of these more modern accounts. A lot of the stuff that comes out of, uh, you know, conspiracy theory spaces for nothing, for lack of a better term, it's always just a little too much. And that's the thing with the Kandahar Giant story.
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If you told me that they were up there looking for a fire team that went missing, and they came across a giant, and they shot it a couple of times, and it maybe took a couple of hits, but when they hit it with the .50 cal, it went down.
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Okay. That's plausible. Yeah, if you're telling me that you all sat behind cover, fired your weapons, and took this thing down together as you were trained to do, yeah, okay. More willing to believe that. It's when you start adding in the details to try and make it sound more legitimate, which is something we know happens. It happens with police investigations.
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They'll look at it, and it's, okay, well, this person said that they saw this guy leave the bar at 1.37 a.m. Who's paying that much attention? That's why you get people, a lot of detectives will say that, you know, unless somebody is known for being that specific about everything all the time, they are more likely to look at somebody with suspicion when that person gives them a lot of details.
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If it's somebody who does not give a lot of details frequently or if most of their version of the story was vague but this was very detailed, that's when the suspicion starts to creep in. So they expect, you know, like, for example, with the bar example, it would be left sometime between 130 and 145, I think. That's what you expect from somebody who's trying to recall something.
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The way this story was told, it was a little different from that. It was more like, you know, I'm going to give as many details as possible so that I sound legit. And, like, interestingly, one of the things that's mentioned is they said that this guy was loaded onto a 463L pallet. This was the pilot. And they described this pallet as being 104 by 84 inches. 463L pallet is 108 by 88 inches.
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Some iterations of the story, the most popular iteration of the story, involves there being a team that is out there on patrol, and they just go missing. They don't call in. There's no, we're in combat. Please send air support. We need medevac. Nothing. Just done. And that was a little abnormal, you know, even early in the war. But on the other hand, it was early in the war. I...
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Somebody who flies a C-130 is going to know that. That's not going to be the kind of thing they get wrong.
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And that's what he did, is he started off, he goes, 104 by 84, there's somebody, I forget the exact, oh yeah, so it's the letter. In the letter, he gives the very detailed number. When he shows up on the radio show a few years later, he's like, ah, it's like 9 by 7. So... That's why I'm... It's those little details that don't make sense. Two .50 cals, but neither of them could penetrate flesh.
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One person saying it was a Chinook, while another person says that it was a Pavelo. You're getting things... You're mixing up because you're trying to get too detailed. Don't be detailed when you lie. Be vague. Don't try and make people... think that you are being honest because you remember everything perfectly, that's going to make them skeptical of you.
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So no, I just don't have a lot of good reasons to believe it, but it was a great chance to talk about Nephilim. It was. I am looking forward to doing more videos on that. It seems like maybe the algorithm shifted a little bit and we can do the fun stuff. Because Nephilim are just such a cool topic.
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It's one of those things from the Bible that I think regardless of if you are Christian, Jewish, any, you know, It's an interesting story in the same way that reading about the Titans of Greek mythology or the Giants, the Jotnar of Norse mythology, you know, all of these things that are more than human, but also, you know, somewhat divine.
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It's kind of weird how we have stories like that all over the world, right?
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That's what I want to dive into, because, you know, even coming... Here's the thing, like, the Book of Enoch describes the Nephilim as these giant cannibals. Granted, it describes them as being entirely too tall. Like, ridiculously tall. How tall are we talking? I think like 3,000 feet. Yeah, it's like obviously no.
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Yeah, not great. But the birds are going. The birds are going. And that's important. You know why that's important, Aiden? Why is that important? It's important because it is the year 2025. The year of our Lord 2025. Yes. And that means that 29 years have passed. since the Dallas Cowboys last saw an NFC Championship game, let alone a Super Bowl.
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But this is one of the reasons that the Book of Enoch is not considered canon scripture, except in the Ethiopian Orthodox Church. They still have the Book of Enoch. I don't know. I don't know. Maybe they teach their apocryphal books separately. They just all are included in their Bible. But we do also for a long time, actually, the only version of Enoch we had was from the Ethiopian Bible.
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And then we eventually found the Dead Sea Scrolls and there were a number of fragments. So we have a lot of fragments from the original book before it was translated into Ethiopic or old Ethiopic, I think it is.
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So there's a reason that biblical scholars don't look at the Book of Enoch and go, all right, this should be viewed as a perfect accounting of the beliefs of the history of the Nephilim as they would exist in Christian and Jewish belief. Right. The version of the story you get in Genesis and the nod you get in Numbers that are basically like, oh, yeah, there's these things.
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They are very powerful, and they were so powerful that God had to do something about it. Well, then you go to the Greek mythology, and it's, well, there were these things, and they were so powerful that God had to do something about it. And keep in mind, because this is important, the book of Genesis predates the introduction between the Jews and the Greeks. Oh, really?
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So Enoch probably has some Greek influence. Genesis does not. Genesis is one of the oldest books, and it's definitely based on, because it's so poetic, one of the most heavily poetic books of the Bible, it's definitely based on oral tradition that goes back even farther.
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So you get these stories in Genesis of there were very mighty giants, and God and his host, in this case, had to strike them down. Okay, go to the Greek. There were these titans, they were very mighty giants, and the gods had to strike them down.
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I would not be totally shocked if a team managed to get taken out by an ambush without having a chance to call it in. Now, I know that wasn't super common, but when you don't know the terrain all that well quite yet, when you're not quite as in with the locals as you want to be, there's ways it could happen. So I won't use that to completely discount the story.
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That's what makes it so interesting, because if you go to look at the Norse, okay, well now we have the Aesir and the Vanir, they're the gods that are, you know, the worshipped gods, and then there's the Jotnar, who are giants, but... Not the best term to use for them, but they are these powerful semi-divine kind of beings that inhabit another plane. And the gods have to fight them too.
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So you get throughout, as you go across European mythology, all of these stories of semi-divine or divine beings that have to be defeated by the gods because they're dangerous for people and for the gods as well. And then you get the same thing across Semitic texts. Now, why is that interesting? Because Hebrew, the Hebrew religion, Judaism, Christianity, Islam...
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Babylonian, Akkadian, Syrian, Assyrian, sorry. Sumerian. All of these different Semitic groups. That is the Semitic language. The Semitic language group, I should say. The Semitic language family. These guys all exist in the Middle East. It's generally understood that this was probably people who derive from Mesopotamia. So probably Sumer and then people who left Sumer heading west.
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because that's where Mesopotamia, Sumer is in Mesopotamia, and we see that things seem to go in that Fertile Crescent, probably moved from east to west. The Greeks, the Celts, the Norse, the Slavs, that's all Indo-European. That's Aryan. That's a different thing.
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Their myths, so far as we can tell by tracing back the similarities between all the different European pantheons, seem to originate with the Omnia and those people that were up until 100 years ago generally referred to as Aryan. Semitic, of course, being just south of that, has a lot of similarities, but they don't share a linguistic heritage. They don't share cultural heritage.
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We see groups of... Indo-Europeans who come down from the Caspian steppe and migrate in who don't adopt the local customs. For example, Zoroastrians. Zoroastrianism seems to derive from the Caspian steppe, just like all those other pantheons. It's a little closer to Judaism and Christianity, but it's also clearly not Semitic. It's Persian. Um...
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So it's interesting, and this is why I like studying this stuff, is because you get these very similar stories that cross linguistic and cultural boundaries and genetic boundaries. These are not people who had a ton of interaction at the time these stories were being developed. And then later on, they do. I mean, the Mesopotamian material goes back to before the Omnia migration.
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What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
I mean, they were telling these stories 4,000 BC, and the Indo-European migration isn't until the Copper Age, like around 3,000 BC. So... There's definitely an origin point for these different mythologies within different cultures, and yet they're very similar to one another in a lot of ways.
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
And then it gets even more profound when you cross the ocean, you get to North America, and they have flood stories too. They have stories of giant cannibals. I think Numuzoho was the one that we talked about with the Paiute. They're sitting on a story of primordial ancient cannibals from just after the flood. It's weird.
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
That like, oh, well, if they were in combat, they must have had a chance to radio in and say, we need help. It's, It's possible that they didn't. That is a thing that could happen. What I don't understand, looking at the story, and when I was talking to Eli earlier, Eli Doubletap, I was like, tell me if this makes sense to you.
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
They talk about... They say, like, a man happened, and he was called Numuzoho, which I think is an interesting way of putting it.
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
Yeah. One of the different... Not necessarily Adam, but that's one of the differences between Native American storytelling and European storytelling that often is a stumbling point for me. There are definitely things that are understood a certain way in those cultures that I...
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
don't have the experience just a bit of a language barrier yeah thing like a man happened that probably makes a lot of sense to the person telling the story to me i'm like what do you mean a man happened where'd he come from what what does that mean but for them within the cultural context they have they don't need to explain that yeah uh
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
So I find it very interesting that we have all these stories of giants and semi-divine beings and the sharing of knowledge from the sources with humans because it crosses lines. And it's ancient aliens and some of the...
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
other people who talk about these things often go too far by saying, you know, oh, well, in all these stories, it's these, you know, light-skinned people with red hair who brought civilization and then disappeared, must have been the aliens, or must have been the white people. And it's like, that's not actually in the mythology.
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
Like, I saw one that was, oh, well, the Aztecs have a whole bunch of stories of... you know, white people with red hair and beards coming and delivering all of this special information. And I remember I saw it on Twitter and I was like, well, which myths? Everybody was like, oh, well, the Aztecs have them. And I'm like, well, which ones? What's the name of the myth? Who are the characters?
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
What's going on here? Some of them bring on like a Viracoa, I think was one of the ones that gets brought up. And it's like, if you look at that story, as we did in our second video on ancient apocalypse, not quite.
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
He did not... This is not a character who appeared on a ship from overseas and brought wisdom. That's not what happened. But, because it gets said by people with a platform on Ancient Aliens or Netflix...
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What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
But, you know, somebody is like, oh, look at this story of, you know, crazy supernatural thing that happened a long time ago. And then the result is that Milo comes in and rightfully completely debunks the entire thing. But the problem there is we've completely eliminated the middle ground where there was a cool thing to study. It was a cool thing to look into. Why do all of these stories exist?
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What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
The fact that they're talking about, in the story, they get up there, this Green Beret team, they get there, and the guy, Mr. K, who's like the one source who has claimed to have actually been there, who has spoken about it, I'm curious as to why he was removed from, why his interview was removed from Lin Marzulli's channel.
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
Why does every place in the world have a flood story? Why do we have similarities between cultures that we don't think interacted? There are ways to ask and investigate these questions without verging into the weird schizoposting territory. It doesn't all have to be super weird, and it doesn't have to be super mundane either.
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
There are a lot of times when you ask an archaeologist something and they go, oh, I don't know. We just don't know. And that's fine. That's where I want to be. That's that's where the cool stuff is. You know, if you investigate something and it turns out to have a mundane explanation, that's fine. Like I was looking at the Voynich manuscript is something I was considering covering this week.
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What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
And what is it? It is a book written in a totally unknown language that supposedly dates back to the 1600s in Europe. where most languages that existed were known. Yeah, and it has these plants in it, believed to be a medicinal text, has these plants in it that nobody's seen before. They're not native to Europe. They're not native to anywhere near Europe. Some of them supposedly don't even exist.
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
And again, the book is written in a language that nobody can decipher. That's interesting. And from what I understand, I haven't looked too deeply into it, but there's a lot of people who are like, oh, well, maybe it's just a hoax. You know, maybe this guy Voynich, who supposedly acquired it in the 1800s, maybe he made it himself. Well, then they carbon dated it.
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
Apparently the carbon dating suggests an origin prior to 1600. That's interesting, you know?
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
It also might turn out that it was written in a language that is extinct and was copied down from a much older text. And that's why we don't have record of it. It took us a very long time to figure out what Etruscan even looked like.
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
How do we know there's not the same kind of thing that was going on that, you know, somebody had a copy of something and they were recopying it over and over and over again to the point where nobody actually knew what this said. They just had an understanding that it was really important. That's cool. That's interesting. Let's explore that.
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
Antarctica looks like it shows up on some maps from a really long time ago. Why? You don't have to assume that, you know, Tartaria was a thing and it's being hidden from us. There might be other explanations. Let's investigate them. Let's explore them. Somebody may have discovered it earlier than we thought.
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
But the way he tells it is his team gets up there, and they see this cave. They notice human bones. They notice bones laying around. They're not sure if they're human yet, but they do notice army equipment. They're like, okay, that's communications gear. That's a helmet. Something's weird here. There was an ambush. And then out of nowhere, a giant runs out at them.
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
But, you know, we get so many different stories where it just goes so far into conspiracy land that nobody wants to look at it anymore. And anybody who does gets labeled a conspiracy theorist. And it's like, that's not necessary. We don't need to go that direction.
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
I'm going to be honest. You caught me with one I've never heard before, so now I've got to look up God's Ego Death. Hang on. God's Ego Death. Ah, the Wendigoon subreddit.
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
What? What if it's just face value God has or is going through an ego death? Yeah, like I can't find any. God's ego death, a profound inquiry. Oh, good. It's from a website called Wondergressive. And the subheader is, are you awake? Is your reality real? Are you sure? I'm sure we're going very normal places here. Scholarly, I'm sure. Here we go. Um... conceptualizing God's ego death.
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What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
If we perceive God as possessing a form of consciousness, we might consider God capable of experiencing ego death. This could suggest a divine transformation, with God's consciousness transcending its current state, dissolving into the universe as it pervades. Here, God is not diminished, but rather revolves to a form devoid of separateness.
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
I mean, it just sounds like kind of the same Christ consciousness, like God is within all of us. New Age kind of stuff to me.
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
Yeah, it seems like it's an attempt to unite New Age spiritualism with Christianity by suggesting at some point God had an ego death.
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
Yeah, which is just weird. Just don't be Christian.
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
And that's the point in the story. Not that it was a giant, by the way. It's everything that happens after the giant runs out at them that made me question this story. And, of course, I was willing to give the story a shot because Mr. Baldwin said it sounded like it could be legitimate. He's also a storyteller for a living, so I don't want to impugn the man's honor in any way.
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
You don't have to be Christian. I wish a lot of people understood that. you don't have to follow a particular religion. There are other options. Do I think Christianity is the right one? Yes. Or I wouldn't be wearing the cross. Does that mean you have to think that? No, no, it does not. But don't, don't be weird about mine.
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
I'm not walking into, into a Norse pagan meeting and being like, Hey guys, actually all your gods are, they're all just God. They're all just Jesus. Sorry to break it to you. Now, did Christians kind of go around and be like, well, they're not, they're real, they're just saints. Yes, we did do that.
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
I'm realizing this example might be falling apart a little bit, but I... I was going to poke the bear a little more, but I don't know if I should.
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
I'd argue that's not even a biblically accurate perspective. There are things like there seems to be... There's no explicit age of accountability in the Bible, but for example, in Numbers, I believe it is. It might be in Exodus, but I think it's Numbers. There is a passage where... I think it is Numbers. I think it's actually right after the whole Nephilim thing shows up in the book.
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What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
But there's an episode where I... People are the people have been told, go to the promised land. I have secured it for you. It will be yours. You just must trust in me. This is God's message to the Israelites. And a bunch of them are like, but I'm scared. And God is like, OK, how about this? I nobody over the age of 20 is allowed to go to the promised land, but your kids can go.
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
20. Everyone under the age of 20 is therefore, according to that book, not accountable for their lack of faith. That is not the only example in the book. I'll try and dig up some more for an episode of Weird Bible.
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
So there's... It's the free pass. Yeah, there are examples where, okay, well, there's an age of accountability. In the Old Testament, this is obviously Old Testament, but in the Old Testament, we also have that when Jonah is told to go to Nineveh, he's basically... The understanding is Nineveh is a wicked city. It is sinful. It is walking against God. It is practicing idol worship.
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
Nineveh is not in Israel. Nineveh is in Syria. That means that people who were not Jews could be saved. In the Old Testament, people who are not Jews can still escape going to some kind of hell. In fact, there is no explicit version of hell as we understand it in the Old Testament. It is... There is an afterlife. There is the place where the spirits of the dead go.
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
And there are certainly good parts of it and bad parts of it. But there's no... If you're not Jewish, you go into a fiery pit. Come forward into the New Testament. How does a person who has never even heard of Christ accept Christ as his Savior? You can't. Exactly.
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I'm just saying I don't know what... I don't know how far he was going when he said it sounded reasonable. Yep. Or authentic, I think, was the word he used.
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
And while there is no explicit part of the Bible that I can think of that says people who have never encountered Christianity or knowledge of Jesus Christ, there's nothing I can think of that says that those people go to heaven. I've also come across nothing that says they go to hell.
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
considering there is, for a very long time, really up until the Reformation, there was an understanding that there is a place in between heaven and hell, purgatory. That suggests to me that there are a number of ways to get there. The only way to guarantee getting there in Christianity is by being Christian. And you have to be Christian, not just profess Christianity.
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
You have to actually, within your heart, be a Christian. In some senses, that has been understood to mean that people who are genuinely Christian will do the things that Christ would have wanted them to do, giving to the poor, not living a lavish lifestyle, basically being comfortable and then providing what you don't need to those with less.
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
That would be the question, is can somebody be Christian without being Christian? And I think that when you look, in my personal opinion, the way I have understood the Bible is that if you are unaware of Christianity, you are judged on your actions. And it might be that you can never go to heaven, heaven, but you might get a slightly lower spot.
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
Because also we look at – there's the parable of – I think it's the parable of the vineyard where you have some of the employees have worked there for a very long time. I, and they are offered, I think it's, I, again, it's been a while since I read the parable exactly, but they're offered a wage for a certain amount of work. I, and they finish their work for the day and they, they go to get paid.
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
And then there's the newer people in line who I, I think it was, I think it might've been the one day. It's been a while. Like I said, I, and they get paid the same wage. This is not an argument for paying people who do not work. This is not an argument for a giant state welfare system.
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
Well, no, it was Mr. K's version. Okay, got it. We talked about seeing the interview and everything. Because the interview, I guess, was up back then. But the way the story goes after they get up this cave... is that the giant runs out. And keep in mind, there's versions of this where he's throwing rocks, one where he's throwing spears.
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
The point of the story, being as it's a parable, it's an allegory, is that the people who started the day at the crack of dawn, 8 a.m., and were told, if you work the full day, you'll be paid a pence. You'll be paid a single dinar. Well, that was the deal for everybody. If somebody came up at 1 in the afternoon, they were like, hey, we need laborers.
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What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
If you go pick grapes, then we'll pay you a dinar, a piece of gold. And then at the end of the day, they all line up to get paid, and the people who only worked a few hours are paid the same as the people who worked the full day. And they're upset about it. And what Jesus is using this to explain is just because... they came to me later does not mean they came to me lesser.
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
And so that's, I feel like, again, it's not explicit, but that would suggest to me, based on the fact that there is no explicit information, that that would imply that there is a path to salvation outside of or a path out of hell, I should say, outside of Christianity for those who are not acquainted with Christianity. And then there's also the suggestion that only Christians have the gateway.
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
And it's like, well, Christians actually have the toughest path. Because if you are a bad Christian... then you are held to a higher standard. You should know better, basically. And all of this, you know, you go back and teach, and this is why it drives me nuts when people say stuff like there is no salvation outside of the Catholic Church. It's like, first of all, come on, guys.
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
There's other churches, and yours is not the oldest one, the oldest unchanged one. It's just not. But more importantly, that's not biblical. There are a lot of things that suggest that not everybody who does not... you know, accept Jesus Christ, their personal Lord and Savior, is destined for hellfire. That's just not, that's not what the book says.
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
So, you know, that's a very long-winded answer, so I don't even remember what the question actually was.
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
Anyway, he runs out of the cave, and you have a Green Beret team, which is, I believe, 12 men, typically. Your average Green Beret, I can't remember the term for the smallest unit, smallest organizational unit other than squad or fire team here, but I think it's usually 12 men on a special forces team, if I'm not mistaken.
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
I had not heard about it. I tend to not look at cases outside the US because a lot of countries do not actually provide any information to the media. But the fact that people are being cagey would suggest to me that somebody knows something. What was the name?
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
What do we got? The basics. I've been missing since October 4th, 2024. I've been missing from Fitzcrossing. I mean, so far, it looks like your typical missing persons case. I'm looking through the... All right, 27-year-old was last seen on October 4th when he went for a boys' getaway at a sparsely populated Fixed Crossing, a popular fishing spot three hours northwest of Brisbane. Okay.
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
They're searching pig farms, meat processing plants, and sewage plants. Queensland police said they would respectfully decline to comment on the case. This is why I don't cover things outside of the U.S. After publicizing the discovery of a hat and shoes that belonged to him, they had hoped to keep quiet the subsequent discovery of other personal items. Not sure why you'd do that.
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
Somebody else went missing from that area the prior year. It might be worth taking a look at. It's just hard to... It's hard when... Other countries don't have U.S. media laws.
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
Yeah. It's painful dealing with Canada.
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
And that's that's the thing is, you know, and we're seeing it with the Sebastian Rogers thing right now, too. You like the guy we had on last week for those who saw it last week's episode. I'm not going to get into a rant on this, but the gist is I think we treated Steve very kindly. I don't think that we pushed him very hard at all.
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
Kind of just let him talk because I figured if he was lying, then... It would be easiest to just let him lie, and other people would go ahead and be like, hey, this was a lie. I figured if I pressed him too hard, I might shut him down, and then we wouldn't get any information about what we wanted. I feel like we learned a lot about what he...
The Lore Lads
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uh actually knows because he's been very boastful on twitter about how much he knows and who he's working with and everything you know guy was saying for weeks that months even that he's been working with uh the the law enforcement he mentioned having a meeting that he was in with sumner county sheriff's office and tbi then he gets on our show and we ask him directly you know who are have you been working with him and he's like well i mean
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What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
And they talk about they're carrying, he says that they have 308s, they have M4 carbines, and they have 50 cals. He doesn't say what kind of 50 cals. Now, I was made aware that there were .50 caliber weapons other than the Barrett M82 that were being used by the Green Berets back in the early 2000s. And that also there were .458 SOCOM rounds were used in some of their weapons.
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
When I said law enforcement, like, you know, I was contacted by some people from the area search and rescue. It turns out it wasn't even Sumner County search and rescue. Like, you know, I let him talk because I figured he'd talk himself into a hole and he went on to do that. And he gets on Twitter and just starts trying to bash us and just straight up lies about what was said on the show.
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
He said that I was OK with it. First of all, he said that. Seth Rogers had a relationship with Katie Proudfoot beginning from the time that she was 12 years old, and that I said I saw no problem with this. Which, for anybody who actually watches the show, what actually happened is I said, well, do you have evidence of that?
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What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
And then I commented how even the age gap when they were adults may be uncomfortable. Huh? Huh? Just like in that situation, if you're going to claim something, you need to provide evidence or you can't really be shocked when people don't believe you.
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And if the evidence you provide doesn't really help you, doesn't bolster your case.
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Yeah. And that's at a certain point. I think I don't think there's anybody out there from the Kandahar giant people who would be like, oh, yeah, well, we've proven this happened. I mean, Stephen Quayle, maybe.
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Yeah. This is one of those super chats where if I were to read it, it would end up like the three-year anniversary special when it was just Celso, PJ, and Luke.
The Lore Lads
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If you guys haven't seen that, it's on Patreon. It was fun. It was a lot of fun. We all had a few drinks and did a little anniversary special where we told our uninitiated friends missing 411 stories. Yep. And it very quickly went off the rails. That was not a good idea. Yeah, the problem was we said let's start at a bar.
The Lore Lads
What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
It was supposed to actually be an actual episode that was going to go on this channel.
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What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
So you think the NFL is... Is the suggestion that the NFL is rigging games in favor of the Chiefs because of all the money these companies have put into sponsorship deals? Yes. Do you think it's possible? Only if the NFL actually ends up getting a cut of those sponsorship deals. I think they do. I think it depends on if any of their gear is shown.
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I think Patrick Mahomes can do an endorsement deal and the NFL doesn't get a cut.
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Yeah, true. I mean, I... I don't know. Are they absolutely rigging games to help the Chiefs win? Yeah. No doubt about it. I mean, they're good at it. They're good at making it possible to deny. But, I mean, I watched that game last night.
The Lore Lads
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And Special Forces, I read a book. I'm trying to remember the name of the book. It's driving me insane. It's from one of the guys who was on the Bin Laden raid. But he was talking about how the system works within Special Forces, and I assume Army and Navy are pretty similar in this respect, that you would go in and you would tell the armorer, I want this, and the armorer would give you that.
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where josh allen made it across the uh he got the first down it was very obvious he got the first down to everybody watching you could see the ball across the line multiple angles it was not up for debate yep uh and then the previous play the one right before that had actually if you watch it he he got the first down on that play too and twice they were like oh nope just just shy guys
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I mean, that stuff, there were a number of missed holding calls, there were a number of missed face-back penalties. Just, like, the Chiefs get away with everything.
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And when they do get called for something, it's at a moment where it doesn't affect the game. Last night, it was... I saw more fair officiating than usual, but then, of course, it comes down to the wire, and it's the moment where it really counts. Wasn't a penalty. It wasn't a... a review of a score that they decided, no, no, it was just a first down. They just wouldn't give them a first down.
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What Really Happened With the Giant of Kandahar? | Podcast Episode 157
And of course, then I don't know if you saw, but a lot of people were complaining about how the ref came out during the Eagles game on that one second down that just lasted forever. The one where Luvu jumped over the line twice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ref came out and was like, Washington has been informed that if this behavior doesn't stop, we can just award a touchdown. Yeah.
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And there were a whole bunch of people being like, see, the refs rigged the game for the Eagles. And it's like, no. He jumped over the line twice, and it got to the point where they were right in front. The ball was basically touching the end zone. They were less than a yard away. They couldn't move the ball forward any further.
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At that point, literally, the ball was lined up right outside of the end zone. Yeah. And people were rightfully pointing out that, like, well, if you let them get away with that, then they're just going to keep doing it until they guess the timing right. Like, that's... Because they literally did it three times. You do it once? It's like, okay, all right. You do it twice? Third time?
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Third time you get it wrong?
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Yeah, you're just going to you're going to prevent. It's called the palpably unfair play act or rule. And it's basically if one team is making it impossible to score because they keep doing a number, several things, one of which is just penalty after penalty after penalty. To prevent a score from happening. Then the referees can just award a touchdown. It's been a rule since 1954, Aiden.
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Has it been that long? 1950, which is how you know something happened. Yeah. That's a rule that comes about because something happened. I'd love to know what it is that happened. Yeah, I'm curious. What happened in 1953 that caused that to be a rule in 1954? I'm going to Google it. But, you know, it's not the same. Did the Eagles have some calls go their way? Sure.
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Did the refs miss a very obvious pass interference on Dallas Goddard in the end zone? Yes, they did. Did they miss multiple face masks throughout the game against Eagles that were affecting Eagles players? Yes, they did. So... It's just silly, but here.
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So I think he said he carried an M4 as well as an M416 that were kitted out for different ranges and uses, and so they each have basically two primary weapons that they run, but any time they're going on deployment, they can go to the armorer and be like, hey, I'm going to need this and this. And so they have more freedom than the average soldier does to choose their equipment, which makes sense.
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Yeah, so I guess they basically probably sat down and were like, all right, what should we consider for this rule?
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Made even stronger by pure adrenaline rush.
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and so here's the thing i would not be at all shocked if that is what happened yeah no that actually happened is that the the locals were talking about how there's you know a giant or something living in the hills and they went up to look at it and something happened and it was actually it was just some guy with gigantism who was never treated right because he lived in a
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rural village in a third world country and nobody knew what to do with him. Um, that I could see. And then the being like, ah, we should not talk about this. Like this is, we just killed a, uh, impaired person. Yeah.
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Yeah, that I could see that would make sense. You know, in that case, what starts as duty was like eight, nine feet tall, which is possible. That can happen with gigantism. And then that goes from, oh, he was eight to nine feet tall to he was, in fact, this size. And, you know, just whisper down the lane ends up at 12. Yeah.
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something about the audio guys racks for 49 said can't believe Taylor Swift is rigging the NFL you joke it hurts even more as an Eagles fan was that a pun no hurts it should have been but no I the fact that she grew up an Eagles fan and had lyrics in her most recent album about being an Eagles fan you can't do it Donna Kelsey does You can't... You can't just go half and half?
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They're going to so many different situations that are so mission specific. What I don't totally understand, I'm not sure what .50 caliber rifle they would have been bringing in with them. Somebody did mention, oh, well, they might have been, the .308s might have been M240s. I'd say maybe SCARs. It hadn't occurred to me that the SCAR hadn't come out yet. So there are other .308 rifles.
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Yeah, like, you can't... Well, yeah, that too. I mean... Kylie will not go near a Chiefs jersey.
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So... And she's it's because she's from Philly. It's not because her husband played for the Eagles. Yeah, because she's from Philly. Yeah. Now, granted, Kylie Kelsey is actually from the Philly area and Taylor Swift from Reading area. But if you're not from Pennsylvania, you wouldn't understand why that's important. But they're about an hour and a half away.
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It's still much closer to Philly than any other football team. Yeah, by far. That is their football team is the Philadelphia Eagles. So I don't know. Just I don't like it. I don't like it. Nobody likes it.
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I see where you're coming from, but if we take the viewpoint that Goliath was a descendant of the Nephilim, well, he got taken out by a rock. Yeah, that's a great point. And he was a lot closer. Genetically, he was a lot closer. But it was a righteous rock. That's true, yeah. Um, I mean, granted, technically the rock only knocked him out and then David stabbed him, but David was able to stab him.
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It was like a normal metal jacket rounds out of a Barrett. Yeah.
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Yeah, but we talked about I have looked in just to get a little bit more detail on that. I have looked into it. I have yet to find an actual example of a proven giant skeleton being spirited away by the Smithsonian. It's always like we found a giant skeleton and it will be studied by the Smithsonian. Which is why we can't show it to you. And then the Smithsonian is like, we don't have any giants.
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There is one actual example where they mention it, where it's somewhere on the East Coast. I think it was within coastal Algonquian territory. Um... they found a mound and they dug into it. And at the bottom, there was a very large man.
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I believe he was supposed to be like six and a half feet tall, uh, surrounded by the skeletons of several smaller people, like average size, you know, five, six to five, 10. I, they just, it's just in the report, but it's not a giant. It's an extra tall person. Like I'm going to be honest, take Shaquille O'Neal and put them in front of somebody who lived in the year 1000 and
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They're probably going to think that dude's supernatural.
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I mean, this guy whose hand is going to be able to grip their entire head.
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They might have had AR-10s. They might have had EBRs. They might have had, you know, a number of different weapons. That was probably their designated marksman. But I'm not sure what the .50 cals would have been. But it doesn't totally matter because the way they tell this story is that they were all shooting at this thing and nothing they had was taking it down.
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So good. Maybe that's where all the bone dust from that juice Norman had to drink in college. Probably. Honestly, probably.
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I will go back to the example of Goliath. I mean, let's think about it. David used a rock. God used water. Like... One of the very interesting things I came across was that Heiser pointed out that the verbiage that's used to describe the whole earth in Genesis being flooded is used at other points in the Bible to refer to just the Levant. Yeah. Which I think is very interesting.
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Because, you know, the number of times I've had to deal with somebody asking the question, well, like, well, we know the whole world didn't get covered in water, so what's that about? I'm like... maybe it wasn't the whole world. And they're like, well, you're going against the book.
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And I'm like, am I, I wonder if I've been looking at like, you know, global flooding events, like when the sea levels rise a lot and then the entire world, as you understand, it would be flooded. Yeah.
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What, the Hebrew?
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Yeah, no, Genesis could be just referring to a regional flood.
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Yeah, that might be a little hard. That gets harder.
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Then it becomes difficult. Yes. We have no good sources. No. Unfortunately, nobody was writing biographies of the first people to ever live.
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Yeah. I do not love Heiser's answer for how Adam and Eve fits with the archaeological record.
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It's basically just the Bible is not a science book.
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Keep in mind this is a 12 to 15 foot tall person from the story that's told. These are going to be about twice as big as a human in terms of size, probably even more in volume and mass overall. On the other hand, a .50 caliber bullet... Goes through a lot of things.
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Yeah. Which, sure, but I'd still like to know how this functioned.
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And more importantly, it means that since the Dallas Cowboys last went to an NFC Championship game, the Eagles have been to 8-1-4. I love this city. I love this city. So we're not going to bore you with football talk all night. Just had to do a little bit of gloating because a lot of you were anti-birds in our comment sections whenever we mentioned it. How could you? And you know what?
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Sorcery. I mean, the one thing that's clear from the context of the story of Adam and Eve is that there were other people around at some point when they got out of the garden. Like...
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Yeah, there's a lot to go... Like I said, that's why I've got to do a whole episode on this. I'm going to try and talk about it. We're supposed to have Weird Bible on Thursday, barring any unforeseen problems.
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I think that the most reasonable way to look at it is that they're the first... They're the progenitors of civilization.
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Better way to put it. I'm essentially trying to find a way... Basically, they were the first civilized people. Yes. And also the first... And that their creation in the garden may have been like God perfecting what he had been working on. Yeah. I, it also, it could be referential to, you know, us gaining sapience because that, that is what it is.
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If you read the story, it's like, Oh, this is human beings beginning to understand right and wrong.
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That is sapience. That is the most basic foundation of sapience is can you comprehend right from wrong? Abstract right and wrong beyond, you know, direct physical needs. So, you know, it's hard. Like I said, I don't want to speak for what Christianity supports here. I'm just trying to give the, you know...
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some of the varying ways of looking at it because there's definitely some that are really rigid. And then there's others that are of the opinion that we don't really totally understand this yet. Um, yeah, I don't think, I think that the, the story has a lot of options for being allegorical in some senses, uh, literal and others. The Bible is extremely complicated work.
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That's why, that's why people study it so much.
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Yeah. And the other thing is, I think is rather silly is sometimes people are like, you know, well, why would you study a fiction book? And it's like, first of all, I don't think it's fiction. But second of all, you don't want to understand what people living at this time in this place thought that's important to history.
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like just as a historical document, like whether or not you consider the things in it to be historically accurate. Some are, but it is an important document from history that gives us a ton of understanding of what a culture believed.
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And that is important for understanding that culture and the things they took part in and what their effect was on other things. It's also important for psychology. It might tell us things about relationships between different countries, different nations. So whether you believe what's in it or not, it's an important textual resource.
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Yeah, and when you, I mean, what we're assuming, we'd have to be, I mean, a .50 cal will go through a hippo. Like, I don't know if it would get all the way through a hippo, but it will penetrate.
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Which is why, personally, I think we should be teaching religion in high school. I don't think we should be teaching you to follow one religion, but teaching people about religions is a good idea.
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There's no reason you should graduate high school in America without an understanding of the... what the Brahma is, what the Trinity is like, what, you know, what the Islamic opinion on God is, which is that it's not a Trinity at all. It's monotheistic. You know who God is in Judaism, like just for cultural reasons, these are important things to know.
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Yeah, I mean, these things will penetrate armor on lightly armored vehicles. Yeah. So, again, depending on what kind of .50 caliber they're using, like a .50 caliber handgun probably isn't going to do that, but at least not in any significant range.
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And it doesn't have to be that your school gives you a super in-depth lecture on it, but it could be like at least a survey, you know, like here's what makes this different from this, which is different from this. The worst thing that happens is people understand each other a little bit better.
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I know there are a lot of people who are like, well, I don't want, you know, I don't want my kids being taught that this is good and stuff like that. You don't need them to be. You don't need to teach the moral lessons. Yeah, it's like you can teach that Christians believe in a God, a singular God in three persons.
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If your students ask more questions than that, the answer can be that's really a better question for your parents or for a faith leader or something like that. But at least telling people so that everybody understands the differences here. I think it would lead to a lot less animosity and a lot less distrust.
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Also, really cool that you're watching. Yeah, it's awesome to have you here. That's cool that we have former special forces. I hope I did not do a disservice in the way I tried to explain everything. That was entirely off the cuff and from memory, so I hope I was okay. If I wasn't, feel free to berate me in the comments. I will not take offense.
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If I got things wrong, tell me because I will internalize it and I will be better in the future.
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I just want to give people facts.
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Yeah, .50 BMG, yeah. But if it's a .50 caliber machine gun, which I believe those only come mounted. Generally, yeah. I can't think of a .50 caliber machine gun that would be carried in Afghanistan. I guess there are other .50 caliber rifles that they could have been using, but the point is a .50 caliber rifle is going to penetrate flesh.
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Your country is coming up. There's another case about the RCMP not doing its job out on Friday.
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But he took a trip on Dingle, or Dongle, the Dingle Dolphin. Dingle the Dongle Dolphin?
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What a horrible year. It's our viewership right now.
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I don't want to know. Where did I put the gun?
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If the story were to have a kernel of truth, I think it would be something like what we said earlier, that it was somebody with gigantism who they brought food up to and lived up in a cave because he didn't fit in with the other Afghans.
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In group bias and the like. Yeah. Yeah, I could see it being a thing like that where he just kept on growing. They were like, all right, well, go on now. We'll bring you some goats.
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Yeah, it should have been. That is almost that's up there with she shift on my polls to like cataclysm, which I still think is our best intro ever.
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And it's going to carry all – if it doesn't – either it's going to penetrate and it's going to go through, in which case there's a lot of bleeding, or it's going to penetrate and get lodged, in which case all of the kinetic energy of that .50 caliber round – is getting soaked up by the body.
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We need to go back to... Perchance. Oh, God. Am I already searching for it? Oh, no. I was going to say, we need to go to the post office because we need to pick up the stuff that the photographer sent us. True. Got to do that. Do not let me forget to do that tomorrow.
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If you make a video about the Bennington Triangle, yeah, we're going to try and head up there at some point soon. We bought the Gladiator. Yeah, you did. Well, I bought the Gladiator. That's an expense. Bought it for business purposes. It's a very nice car. I'm working on getting my truck back in working condition. I am very excited to take the Gladiator cross-country. Yeah, it's going to be fun.
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It has GoPro mounts built into it. Yeah, so I don't have to hold it while we're driving anymore. If you want to help me to pay for the Gladiator, you can go to patreon.com. Go to the Lore Lodge. A dollar a month. A dollar a month to help me stay out of debt.
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I'll explain it to you after the show.
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I like that one. Giants were real, though, probably at some point.
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We have a team called the Giants here.
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You want to swap? Your Giants are probably better than ours.
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Yeah. I wish Aussie football was a thing here. That'd be cool. It'd be fun to go to an Aussie football game.
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For those who don't know, it's played on a circular field and points are scored by... Correct me if I'm wrong on this. My understanding is that it's on a circular field and points are scored by kicking the ball through uprights, like on a football field. It looks like football in Quidditch.
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Which is going to liquefy organs. That's the thing. One story of a guy who survived being shot with a bear 50 Cal, like a U S soldier or Marine. I can't remember which one, but the only reason he survived is because it literally was shot like point blank. like into him accidentally, and it went straight through. It didn't tumble. It was just barrel velocity through his body.
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mixed together like rugby and football and quidditch all in one whole thing but yeah it's a circular field they have i think it's uh four uprights the two in the middle are narrower and worth more points and the two outside are wider and worth fewer points and also you're not you don't pass the ball i'm pretty sure you like pop it into the air and slap it that's wild yeah it's i remember like during just rugby i just film days in high school we were watching some aussie football
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And we're like, what is this? What is this? Yeah, it was cool. I would love to go see a game. I'd love to play it. It'd be fun.
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We should be seeing him Thursday on Weird Bible. That's the plan.
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I know. We're looking for topics for the next set of videos. So the first episode of History Unhinged goes live on Friday. This week there will be a whole bunch of clips going up. So feel free to leave recommendations for stuff you'd like to see under any of those clips and then under the video on Saturday. Nice. February 1st, Saturday, it will be going live at 2 p.m.
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Because unsub, I clarified today, is at 10. Nice. Speaking of which... Unsub. Pepperbox. That's all I'll say. Keep your eyes open.
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Come on up. Sebastian I actually could have seen. I think you'd have to check and see if they had a life insurance policy on him. JonBenet, they had so much money.
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And they ended up spending a lot more of it defending themselves.
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yeah so i with john bonnet i don't think so with sebastian i could actually see that for sure uh the only thing is that with a disappearance i don't know the exact laws in the state of tennessee but i know in a lot of states you have to wait seven years to have somebody legally declared dead so if it if it was a life insurance scam it was a really stupid one yeah which granted really stupid people diane yale for twenty dollars says good story grandmother
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That's a good story. Thank you.
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And so they were able to stop the bleeding and get him secured. But if that thing hits you after it leaves the muzzle, it's tumbling a little bit. There's going to be more and more wobble the further away it gets, and it's going to cause damage. And they talk about how they were shooting this thing for 30 seconds before they finally realized they needed to shoot it in the head to kill it.
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cautious about that one i saw a video of people suggesting that could have happened based on a hand motion made by the guy in the passenger seat yeah um i haven't looked too deeply into it i did not see anything about the government admitting that so much as i saw somebody suggesting that's what happened i feel like i thought the jfk files hadn't been released yet as far as i'm aware they haven't also i feel like jackie would have noticed
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Yeah, that's the other thing.
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Yeah, I mean, the moment he was shot, she was, like, leaning over.
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if you've ever been around a gun when it goes off, you know where that sound came from. And if it happened, that's what I mean is like, if it's like out in the woods or far away, there might be some echoing happening. It might get confusing. If you are 10 yards from a gun and it's fired, you know where that shot came from.
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Yeah. Like, it would have been... I mean, there is a... There is a noticeable... Not all the time, but there's a noticeable muzzle flash. Yeah. I mean, if he did this, he didn't do it with a kitted-out rifle that had a flash suppressor. Like, it would have been a handgun.
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Yeah, from the two pages that I've seen, I... All I see is an anonymous source told us and a person familiar with told us. And I mean that I just I'm sorry. Give me a name or give me proof that this person is somebody I should be trusting.
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Sorry, just saying, you know, a guy who's definitely a communist said that MLK is a communist and he's seen him at the meetings.
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Like, I'm going to need more than that. Yeah. It's not even politics. Just that's not evidence. Yeah. It's like, oh, there were. I would not take an anonymous source who said anything about really anyone seriously.
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Unless there's very good reason to believe it.
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If it's an anonymous source who hands me a Polaroid, it's like, hey, look at this.
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okay that's different you know if it's just he said so yeah and notice i said reputable source because the fbi has proven in the last two decades that they are not no no but yeah no there is one three-letter agency that i that i trust it's the national park service there it is the atf should be a convenience store incredible
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Which my question then is, if the thing's ribs were stopping a 50 cal, its skull was definitely going to stop a 50 cal. That is the hardest bone in your body. I mean, your skull and your femur are like the hardest to break. Require the most force. I have a hard time believing that a 50 cal that can't penetrate flesh is going to penetrate a skull.
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That is an opinion I held before any current politicians said it, just for the record. It's not me quoting anybody. I was saying this back in 2014 when I was a minor. Yep.
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That is... That feels new. That feels new. Because it used to be that the only tier was $5. And everybody was able to send the monthly free message. Let me go in and look. It might be that I accidentally disabled the setting when I added different tiers.
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But I don't think that that would have been something that I assigned to a higher tier, so I may have just accidentally turned it off. Yeah. I'll go in tonight and give it a look and see what I can dig up.
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Yeah. So. I mean, he said it's an expert. I'd be willing to take a look at it. That's possible. Um, if you're in the area and you want to loan it to us, go for it. Uh, you drop it off here at the studio. Uh, otherwise, um, you know, if it's a rather cheap book, I can probably find it on Amazon. Just get the Kindle edition, do it the way I usually do it.
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But I'm definitely interested because JFK is one that we, uh, we haven't touched. As soon as those files come out, you can bet I'm going to be on it though.
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But how much of it's just speculation?
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Yeah. The problem, though, is I don't want to spend a whole week on JFK and then...
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consider though uh oh it is not an alien it is a legendary winged bat-like creature that was reported to have appeared in van meter iowa in 1903 said to be half human and half animal with large bat wings and a horn on its forehead between this the jersey devil and mothman i'm beginning to wonder if maybe there is something out there yeah right
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totally not JMO for $2 also Mattis please read Berserk please every time I open the book I take psychic damage I gotta open this book it's at my apartment I've read a few pages it's big yeah it is a big book when I have a moment a crumb of time
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You know what? I'm happy to do it. This is what we do it for. You are probably having a worse time than me.
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Yeah. Sounds like I am the lucky one here. So I just appreciate that you're watching. Best of luck.
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That's what I was talking about. I don't like that one. That was kind of fun. I respect it if that's your belief. I personally don't like it. Yeah. It just makes you uncomfy. Not that it's uncomfy. I just don't agree with it. Yeah, that's fair. That's fair.
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I see where they're coming from. I think he can be a little quick to ascribe a racist motivation to this stuff. And I understand why. A lot of it does actually have its roots in somewhat racist theories. There's definitely a lot of...
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Yeah. 7'6'' 2, somebody who's literally like three times your mass might not make it all the way through. But still, you know, we're looking at That thing was getting penetrated.
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It's one of those... It is one of those spaces where somebody could be interested in it simply because they genuinely believe that aliens did come down and help humanity get started with things. But there will also be people in that space who think that all of this was some master race of white people. I... I think saying it's all racist is probably too much.
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Saying that there's no racism involved is also probably wrong. It's a lot more nuanced, a lot more complicated. Are you licking? Okay. He's just licking the table. He's just licking the table. You're a special guy. He is. He's a special little dude. Yeah, no. Honestly, with that, I would chalk it up to youth.
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They think they might have found Sodom and Gomorrah. But, I mean, I would say, I mean, or anywhere in Babylon. Because really the first... The first cities in the Bible that are mentioned are all in Mesopotamia, so I think Babylon would probably arguably be it, because that's where the Tower of Babel is supposed to be. So that, I think, would be the earliest mentioned city that we have found.
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We have addressed it. It was a long time ago. I wanted to talk potentially about that again, actually, on Thursday. I have to hear back from Isaiah about what he's going to talk about. Just so that we can go a little bit more into the reasons for the flood and all that, because it's a very misunderstood story.
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Yeah, that's on the list. Probably an overall woman in white video because La Llorona is part of that kind of trend of various videos. They're all... That was one of our first topics.
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That is what I was just telling him we need to get over there for.
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We're going to try out a new show. That's going to be reaction and commentary focus. That's going to go over on my channel, Aiden Mattis. Um, not for any reason other than that, we just don't want to mess with the, the lore lodge algorithm. Um, so that will be going up over there. And that sounds like exactly the right kind of thing. If it's a YouTube video. Yup.
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It's going to hurt.
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It's going to hurt a lot. So that aspect didn't fit for me. The other thing I didn't like is this story that Mr. K says that one of the guys on their team, Dan, was what he called him, when the thing appeared at the front of the cave and started tossing stuff at him, he says that Dan charged and began firing. I only went through four weekends of RSP.
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We are going to be in Bozeman the weekend between our trips. So, yeah, I mean, if we got time, we got to see what that weekend is going to look like. Yeah. But if we have time between the two trips to go and grab a drink, we'll let people know. Yeah, that'd be fun. I'll try and get that nailed down sooner rather than later. Yeah, that'd be good. We're supposed to be driving out there. Yes.
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So we might also just let people know our itinerary within the Discord.
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That would be the one thing is that it would go into Discord, not out in the open and on Patreon. So it would just be places that you have to take the extra step just because you never know. So we would be open to meet and greets. It's just a matter of making sure that everything's secure and we're telling people the right information. Yep.
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Oh, God. Wait, how's it spelled? Y-A-K-U-B. Oh, yeah. The guy who created the ancient Egyptian sorcerer who created white people. You heard of that?
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Oh, yeah. Oh, boy.
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He deserves it. He does. Archie, because he has no teeth, gets cheese. That is his kind of treat. Yeah.
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Yeah, he's being very good right now.
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That is definitely on our list. Yeah, we want to get there for sure. Yeah, that will probably be next summer, I think.
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Thank you very much, everybody, for being here. I hope you enjoyed getting to see Archie for a little bit, the Super Chats and the... you know, pseudo-Weird Bible episode you kind of got here.
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Yeah, if you like the Bible talk, we do have a show dedicated to that.
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It's like two hours, three hours straight of Isaiah and I talking about weird stories from the Bible, Samson, uh, the flood, what, like the, the concept of hell, uh, creation Easter. We did an episode. Um, yeah, it's, it's a fun show and it's, if you're not Christian, don't feel like that's a reason not to watch. It is not a show that is trying to convince you Christianity is real.
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It is a show about what Christianity is by Christians.
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She went missing in Canada, so... I had to do... A lot of digging to find anything. But it's good. And if you're missing the folklore and history segments, it's a treat.
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That was not, like, even I know that that's not something you do. You don't break cover and charge somebody who is armed with a melee weapon. There is no reason to do that.
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I mean, that part to me sounds like somebody who's seen too many movies. Because especially somebody as highly trained as a Green Beret. I mean, these guys are cream of the crop for U.S. Army. And that's not to insult the other Army units. The Delta Force obviously is... you know, touted as being the peak, but Green Berets draw... Like, Delta Force draws from Green Berets.
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Delta Force draws from the Army Rangers. Green Berets draw from the Army Rangers. They're trained for a different task. They are not Navy SEALs. Green Berets are almost more like... a half CIA operative in a way they go in, in Afghanistan and Iraq is specifically, at least what green berets would do is they would be embedded into a region. So they basically go build them a little compound.
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And those 12 guys would be in that compound doing outreach to the local communities. So there it's green berets that gets sent into train, uh, militia forces and gorillas. Uh, it's green berets that gets sent into learn the local culture and, uh, you know, build a good relationship with the people. They're not exclusively a scalpel.
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I just wanted to acknowledge that we were right. They went all the way, and now it's time for the big one. But no matter how badly you hate Eagles fans... You can't hate the Eagles players, but you can hate Patrick Mahomes. And that's all that matters. So anyway, we're gonna be talking about the giant of Kandahar, which is another big red that we can be against right now.
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They're not always a precision tool that is sent in to do one thing and that thing is killed. You see it a little bit more with the Navy SEALs. Army, that's what Delta Force is. That's what the Rangers are. So, knowing that, Green Berets are still drawn from the best of the best and given the best training. They are the ones who are built to survive out in the wild. So I am very...
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put off by the idea that somebody who is that well trained, who is, you know, these are guys who are trained to speak the language of the local region. Like they, they will learn like Pashtun and stuff and then go in so that they can interact. They are some of the smartest soldiers in the army. They are some of the most capable soldiers in the army.
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So why in the hell would one break cover to charge a giant while firing an M4? Great question. No sense. It makes no sense whatsoever. It's something out of Hollywood. It is a movie moment. I just don't buy it. I do not buy that at all.
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So between the fact that we're being told one of the most specialized troops in the Army went and charged a giant for no reason, and also that .50 caliber weapons couldn't penetrate its skin but could kill it by shooting it in the head. I just have a hard time buying it.
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there was the one thing that apparently some guy named dan did in fact die on patrol in 2002 uh and they said it was like an ordinance thing like something exploded in the cave and i on the one hand a lot of people are like oh well that's probably you know the cover-up on the other hand i wonder if you know that's where the story came from like
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Yeah, because, I mean, also we've had a whole bunch of people now who have told us that they served in Afghanistan and never heard this story. We have a lot of people who said they did, but it seems like it might have been a rather specific, like, you heard about it if you went to Kandahar.
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According to Mr. Ballin, he heard it a few years after it happened when he was deployed and that it was actually one of the local – it was an interpreter, I think, who told them. And he was like, oh, yeah, back in 2002, a team of your Green Berets was up here, and they got got by a giant in a cave.
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That's the kind of thing that I could see almost being a joke that is being played either by the guys who have been there a lot longer or by the locals who are, you know, like, oh, let's mess around with the Americans a little bit. You get a lot of these stories, a lot of these, like, almost mythical-sounding adventure stories coming out of armies for going back hundreds of years. St.
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But the problem Douglas had, and this is going to become more apparent as we go on throughout the case... Douglas never had access to all of the information. He only had access to what the Ramsey team gave him. Oh.
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And his understanding coming in, and this was never explicitly said to him, but his understanding coming in was that he was hired to determine whether or not John Ramsey did it by John Ramsey's lawyers.
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Oh, Steve Fisher? Yeah. The thing is, I don't even think Steve Fisher was brought in because he wasn't hired by the lawyers. He was hired by the Proudfoots. Yeah. I consider it basically the same. I see what you're saying, yeah. So... Douglas was of the opinion, once he met with the lawyers, that he wasn't there to find out who did it.
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He was there to find out how likely it was that John was responsible. And I think, to some extent, I think he's correct that John's not responsible. I don't think John killed JonBenet, or at least I don't think he delivered the blow that made it so that she wasn't coming back.
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The man had a mission that I think was very important for Christianity, and I hope he will be remembered for the good he did rather than some of the more controversial things he said within the Christian community. So I am wishing all of the Catholics in the world the best. I understand that there's a lot of mourning happening at the moment, but the good news is there will be a new pope soon.
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but he even says, and I, and as I, as I highlighted in the video, John Ramsey, you're either a very good liar or you're telling me the truth, something along those lines. And as we know from multiple police reports, John Ramsey lies.
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I will say this again and again, the only thing in this case that even makes it remotely a question that, that the Ramseys did it is the DNA. As I, as I've gotten further and further along into the case, There's just no other potentially responsible party. Unless you assume somebody else was allowed into the home that night.
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Or that the injury happened between them leaving the whites and arriving back at home. Because somebody did say in the comments, something I had in the back of my mind, which was... What if... What if whatever happened, happened before they got home? So...
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That's why the story of what happened between them getting out of the car and going to bed changed is because they realized that the version they had might not work for some reason and decided they needed to alter it slightly. But the thing is, when you look at the two stories that are told, they aren't minor differences. It's JonBenet was asleep the entire time.
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I carried her upstairs and I put her to bed. And the other one is I read to both the kids before bed.
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Well, they did stop it, too. They did say they stopped it to other houses.
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So one of the and this is what I really hate going into it. I saw the stuff that was what about North Fox Island? But there was a pedophile like pornography ring and, you know, maybe it was an Epstein situation. I really hate to say it, but as far as the DNA goes, that might be the only thing that makes sense as to why there was foreign DNA.
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If the DNA is as foreign as has been repeatedly said, again, I haven't had a chance to really dive into the DNA yet. By the time I do, it will probably be an entire episode on just the DNA testing.
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I know a lot of people saying, oh, well, maybe he's on the spectrum or maybe he's got some sort of other personality disorder that isn't sociopathy. That's what I was going to bring up. Sure. Yeah, that's possible. But what I saw was sociopathy. What Kohler saw was sociopathy. What Thomas saw was sociopathy.
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What I saw wasn't a lack of understanding about what happened. Not like that it hadn't processed for him yet. To me, it was a lack of care.
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Yeah, a lack of empathy. And I think the key moment for it for me was the way, and I don't know if you got this into the video from what he said as opposed to me quoting it, the way he answered the question of how things change, the way he said my parents cry a lot, where it just sounded kind of dismissive and whatever. They're so embarrassing.
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Yeah. It didn't sound like him not understanding why they were crying. It sounded like him not having empathy.
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In the meantime, we've all still got Jesus, and that's what matters. And you know who else still had Jesus on the third day? The apostles. And I will be reading from John 20. John 20, the empty tomb. The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulcher, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulcher, which is not where the stone was supposed to be.
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Yeah, I'm just playing my Nintendo.
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Kids with autism can have trouble reading other people's facial expressions. They can have trouble expressing their own emotions.
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they don't lack empathy entirely. And what I see in that interview from the limited amount of it that we have access to, what I see in that interview is a complete lack of empathy. And, and then what got really weird is I don't think, you know, growing again, having an autistic sibling, I don't see him saying, I know what happened and then describing it in the way he did as being autistic. Yeah.
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he almost seemed like proud of himself.
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Yeah. I, and to be fair there, you can look at it the charitable way, which is maybe he had autism, but I think that that's not Occam's razor. I don't think that looking at that interview, the simplest explanation is that he's on the autism spectrum and,
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Did you show that in the video? I think I did. Even more, because again, that whole little episode there, because he changes demeanor so much. He seems distracted, just being a fidgety little 10-year-old kid.
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And then, as soon as the question of what do you think happened comes up, It's such a deliberate shift from being a little playful, like, you know, it's still a little weird, but to, well, I know what happened. Shifts his position, gets into, like, storyteller mode, and he's like, I think somebody tiptoed, like, you know, got her, tiptoed down to the basement, took a night.
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Like, total change in demeanor.
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Yeah. Like acting it out. It just again, I'm not a psychologist. I am very limited for me. I took psychology and sociology courses in high school and I've read a lot. That's what I've got. I've also been in therapy for a lot of my life for the exact opposite reason of, you know, struggling to not have human connections. I get too intense about my human connections. The entire thing skeeved me out.
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And the way that he, again, like Bernhard, you know, she said she didn't see sociopathy. She also had a reputation amongst police, according to Thomas, for being as charitable as possible during psych evaluations and not liking to take things to criminal proceedings, not wanting to testify.
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which is probably why she ended up being the one that the Ramseys agreed to. She did, however, say that she wanted follow-up interviews. She did say that she thought something was deeply wrong here, either that there was something wrong with him developmentally or that he had struggled with things.
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Again, I really recommend reading the books I've mentioned if you want to learn more about this case. But she talks about how... she thought that something was wrong. There was something about his affect that bothered her. She felt that something probably wasn't right at home at the very least. No matter who you ask, everyone agreed something's not right with this kid.
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Then she runneth, and cometh to Simon Peter, and to the other disciple, Now, I want to be clear. John does not say who the other disciple is here. Whom Jesus loved, the disciple whom Jesus loved. Now, as we know, this is how John refers to himself.
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And that's, yeah. What I, I also wasn't trying to paint with a broad brush here. Autism is a very varied disorder. My point was more like autism can manifest in certain ways. Yes.
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Also like Burke wasn't masking anything at all. No. Just deeply unsettling interview.
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So absent all the other details, this would just be weird.
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This is not absent all the other details.
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Oh God, it was hyphenated. Linda Hoffman Pugh.
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The one thing of hers that I have not yet looked at is her deposition during one of the lawsuits that followed all of this.
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But then she runneth, and she cometh to Simon Peter, and to the other disciple, whom Jesus loved, and saith unto them, They have taken away the Lord out of the sepulcher, and we know not where they have laid him. Peter therefore went forth, and that other disciple, and came to the sepulcher. So they both ran together, and the other disciple did outrun Peter, and came first to the sepulcher.
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So I didn't want to say to that commenter, I don't want to say, like, no, Linda Hoffman Pugh is totally out because there might be things that, like, for example, and I think I responded to that person and said, well, where did you hear that she knew what the bonus amount was? Because as far as I'm aware, that wasn't John's bonus from that year. If I remember correctly, that was a 1995 bonus.
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I might be misremembering something there, but I believe it was his 1995 bonus. So Linda Hoffman Pugh, first of all, there's no reason for her need to extort anything. Patsy said, yes. Like she said, I'll give you the money. It's just going to be a loan and you're going to have to pay it back. which again, not the Christian thing to do when you're pretending to be Christian.
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Uh, like that pisses me off. Um, One big thing here, the fact that she had the same notepad in her home doesn't matter. The ransom note definitively came from Patsy's notepad. That was the tears on the paper matched. There were other things in that notepad that were obviously Patsy, that Patsy acknowledged were hers later on. The ransom note was written on Patsy's notepad in the Ramsey home.
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That night. The pens... ended up matching the exact pen they had. That ink matched that line of pen that was in the Ramsey home. So even, yeah, maybe Linda Hoffman Pugh did have the same. Do you think she brought the pen but not the ransom note? Unlikely. That doesn't make sense to me. Also, the police ruled her out completely. They had no interest in her.
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Now, granted, she is one of the few people who would have had a key to the home and could have gotten in even if the doors were all locked. So she doesn't need to get in through the basement. But then again, everybody was pretty sure that whoever it was came in through the basement who was pro-intruder theory. Nobody suspected Linda Hoffman Pugh. And to be honest, she's not sophisticated enough.
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This is a... This crime was committed by somebody with more sophistication than Linda Hoffman Pugh, and I'm not saying that this is a particularly sophisticated crime. It is relatively sophisticated. Based on what I've read from this woman, she did not possess the intelligence.
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Yeah. Again, if it was kidnappers... Why did they leave her in the home? Why did they hit her in the head and then strangle her? what was the thought process here? Was the note left before the crime was committed? Did they... Did somebody break into this home, spend 20 to 30 minutes, because remember, the Kohler team tested that in the documentary for CBS.
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Why is this one of my favorite verses of the Bible? It's because John... First of all, there is some conflict about whether or not the Gospels were written by their named authors. John's definitely was. There is no question in my mind about that. But John is like, yes. And as we came to the place where the Lord lies, I did outrun Peter. I am faster than Peter.
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Spend 20 to 30... I think the average time it took to write the note out was 23 minutes. About that, yep. And that was just writing it. That wasn't trying to perfectly copy it. That was just writing the exact same words that were used.
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Took 20 to 30 minutes. I think on average, 23. Did they break into the home, spend 23 minutes writing that note out, then go upstairs, grab JonBenet, and again, as all of the testing suggested, and the fact that absolutely nobody could find a taser on the market that matched those marks, whereas the train tracks did, which to me, I was thinking about it. I was like, why the train track marks?
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All right. Happy Easter Monday, everyone. He is risen, but the Pope is not. R-I-P? R-I-H? That was not probably the best way of breaking that news. But yes, Pope Francis has passed on. It probably wasn't J.D. Vance's fault, but it's kind of funny that people are saying that it is. The timeline we live in is quite a thing.
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That's weird. Why are those there? well, they might be there if Burke did something, she wasn't responding, and he was trying to wake her up.
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because because i you don't have siblings so i don't know if you experienced with the with this with a cousin or anything but growing up you know every everybody fights with their siblings might just you know they're annoying you and you shove them and they fall over and they start crying it's like wait no no no don't don't cry don't cry i'm sorry uh i'll get you a cookie like suddenly you you panic and you try to don't tell mom like this could have been a very extreme version of oh my god don't tell mom yeah like come on wake up wake up like
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
That's what I see as a possibility there.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
Yeah. I think so, too. Because I don't think Burke intentionally harmed her. At least not... I don't think he premeditated... I don't think it was premeditated.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
No, but he did express in these interviews how... I mean, remember, he said he remembered her as being nice, but she bugged him sometimes. Sorry, I but he said that things bothered him like the music when she played the Nintendo when she would go like, you know, taking his stuff like all of the things he said were like she bothers me by getting involved in my life.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
it could have been something as simple as she grabbed a piece of his pineapple and he hit her in the head with a flashlight and then realized something's not right here. Like I might've fucked up. Sorry. I might've fudged up. So that's where I see that going.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
Another thing that I wanted to talk about with this though, because of the John Douglas angle and Steve Thomas brings this up and I think he's right too. And we'll get to this in the next episode when we get through the moment where he and Steve Thomas actually meet and have a conversation and
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The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
In Douglas's book, he mentions how, to him, when he was told by the Ramsey lawyers that she was partially covered with a blanket. And he says this around the same time he's talking about how Thomas was wrong to say that this looked like familial staging. Based on the book where he describes familial staging. And he goes, well, I didn't write an instruction manual.
The Lore Lads
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And I'm like, well, you kind of did. You wrote about a whole bunch of times it happened in explicit detail. And by saying that it's not convincing when you do it this way, you do tell somebody how to make it convincing. Because it's like, just don't do that. He says that the lawyers told him she was found partially covered by a blanket. And to him, that sounded more like an attempt to conceal.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
Which, first of all, why would you not conceal the entire body? Why would you lazily throw a blanket over half of it and shove it into a room? Also, why not take the body out with you? You know how you conceal the body? You don't leave it in the basement. Anyway, he's like, that doesn't seem like staging.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
Like, if it were staging, there would have been, like, you know, maybe a pillow, or at the very least, she would have been totally covered. What the lawyers didn't tell him and what maybe he didn't know when he was writing his book.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
But if he had read Thomas's book, which he clearly did, unless somebody else read Thomas's book and then was like, hey, look at this specific page about what Thomas said. If he read Thomas's book, he would know that she wasn't just found with a blanket. Somebody had laid her favorite pink dress next to her. An intruder wouldn't know that's her favorite pink dress. A family member would.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
Also, where everybody else said that one of the disciples cut somebody's ear off, it was Peter, just so we're all clear. These people were human, and I love it. But I thought Easter Monday, the Monday after Easter, I should say, the best thing we could do was open with one of the best passages of the Bible, that being the one in which John brags about beating Peter to the tomb.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
Burke wouldn't care to place that there. John or Patsy would. In fact, Patsy specifically. I do think that one thing people brought up that seems very important is that, by all accounts, Patsy paid a lot more attention to JonBenet. Patsy was kind of living vicariously through JonBenet. Patsy got into the pageant world at 13.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
She was behind, and she never managed to... I don't think she even took home Miss West Virginia. I think she was a runner-up for that. She never won Miss America, but JonBenet, she had a chance. I think it's also very interesting that you get a lot of these versions of the story. Patsy specifically says that JonBenet was the one who wanted to do pageants, but then most other people are like, eh,
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
JonBenet seemed pretty insecure because of the pageants and didn't love doing them.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
Yeah. Patsy's mother had to be like, even said that they had, on multiple occasions, she had to tell JonBenet, like, you know, you need to do this. Like, you got to focus. Which, again, six years old.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
It wasn't that much of a different time. Child pageantry, yeah. I mean, it's child abuse. The specific things that they discuss here were just child abuse. Yeah. What's the Always Sunny episode where Frank runs a child beauty pageant?
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
Oh, if you think that's not going to be in one of these videos at some point... I'm sure it will. Yeah. There's an episode where Frank runs a child beauty pageant. Yeah. So I feel bad for John Douglas. I think that the reason he has stood fast on the Rams, he's not being responsible, is that I think it's pride. I think it's his ego.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
His legacy is ruined.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
So I think he was trying to defend his position, and I don't know, maybe he also knew that it was very unlikely anybody was ever going to prove it was the Ramseys. And also, if he said it was, he'd get sued.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
Yeah, true. So it's not like... Also, I want to remind people that now is the time to get in Super Chats if you have not yet.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
There have been a lot, so... Yeah, and we're going to try... We're about to switch over because I think we've covered most of what I wanted to cover in terms of clarifications.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
yeah but but that's the thing is like he he could have said i think it's unlikely but there's not enough information to be certain i haven't gotten to i don't know that he ever said explicitly john ramsey didn't that like the ramseys weren't involved fair but he did say he didn't say john ramsey i believe you and he wrote that in the book so i you know i haven't gotten to the end of his his chat his bit on it yet i'm going to be doing that next time um
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
But yeah, it's... The whole case is absolutely nuts. I am excited to have my own book. This will probably be the first book I ever publish. I'm going to need to do some revisions to the earlier chapters.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
Yeah. So this is going to be... This is going to be a wild ride getting through the rest of it, but I am very much energized about it now, and as long as these videos can do 150k...
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
a month in views i i think we can we can stomach doing them the problem was that they weren't hitting those numbers yeah so if they start hitting those if they can hit those numbers we can do them once a month and i can i can chug through this uh again that's not us complaining i will say it's very weird when people are like you know why aren't why are you why is it taking you so long to get through this and i'm like well because we take a financial hit every time we do and we have bills to pay and we run a business and
The Lore Lads
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You can read it from the message.
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The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
you know, and then they're like, well then, so it's all about the money for you then. And I'm like, well, no, the fact that we're doing it despite the financial hit would indicate that it's not, it's not.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
People rely on us. So yeah, we're, it's really not about the money. If, if I could do this case every week until it's finished, I would. But if I did that, we'd go out of business. And then nobody would ever finish the case. Therein lies the problem. So that's, again, not asking for money, just trying to explain to people why it's taking so long, because it keeps coming up.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
The most accurate Bible translation, the message.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
Yeah. Wow. At first I was like, are you are you leaving something out there? No, not really. Was there an OC somewhere in there? No. You know what, Gomb? Which which camera are we on now? That one. I appreciate you, Gomb. Thank you.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
I am going to finish the stream, look at the Discord chat, and I will be Bigfoot or something again.
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The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
Also, for anybody who has joined very recently who didn't hear the announcement earlier, we are prioritizing Super Chats that came in before 7.45. We will get through all of those, but if that takes us past 8.30, we will not get to anything that came in after. Just so people know, we're not asking you not to Super Chat. We just want to make sure you get your money's worth.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
Oh boy, no, I didn't hear about it. I don't know which one it is. I can't really Google that kid from Arizona. Please give us the information.
The Lore Lads
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Let us know what the full information is of that, because we will... Or if you want to send it in right now, one of the mods can probably highlight it for us.
The Lore Lads
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I'm going to see if Dr. Susan Bernhardt would be willing to talk to you. She'll give you a charitable diagnosis. I wouldn't.
The Lore Lads
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Yeah. I do want to open up today's episode with the verse of the Bible. that was read at both of our different services. I went to an Anglican Catholic service. He went to a Roman Catholic service. No Anglican Catholics are not in communion with Rome or, in fact, the Church of England.
The Lore Lads
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See, that doesn't give you nearly as much of the context.
The Lore Lads
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I will not live in the same state as Portland.
The Lore Lads
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Otherwise, I think Oregon and Washington are absolutely beautiful places full of very good people.
The Lore Lads
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But I know I the politics. I do not want to live in either of those places with with the number of guns I have.
The Lore Lads
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I know, but even within this one, it's just like, it's so much more aggressive. We're not here to learn about the Bible today. We are here to learn about people who pretended to be Christians while probably killing their daughter, in my opinion. Allegedly. In Minecraft.
The Lore Lads
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I'm looking up OP Rock.
The Lore Lads
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That would be... Yeah, that's interesting. I can definitely take a look at that one. Especially if we can find somebody who was there. He's telling the truth.
The Lore Lads
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I don't even know. I need to read that myself. Okay, one more time. You want to read it aloud, or... To reject the milk is to rebuff all that is good. I say unto those men that reject the same that Prince Mike said unto the demon orange juice. While in dispute over the prophet Halav's body, dare not bring against him a railing accusation, but saying the milk rebuked.
The Lore Lads
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The reason I had to read it is because there's a non-zero chance that is just an adjusted Bible quote. More than likely. And I just don't know which one.
The Lore Lads
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Yeah, way longer than that.
The Lore Lads
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Yeah, there's a lot of good ones. Tristan and Isolde is a good one. I think Gawain and the Green Knight is later. Eagledoven is a good starting point that mentions Arthur. It's the oldest mention of Arthur as far as I'm aware, but he's not a central character. Nennius also writes about Arthur. Those are, of course, more historical mentions.
The Lore Lads
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I'm trying to remember what the older Welsh ones are, though. It's going to drive me insane. There's one specifically about Kay. Yeah, let me look these up really quick.
The Lore Lads
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Not in Minecraft. Minecraft didn't exist yet. If it had, maybe Burke would have been too occupied.
The Lore Lads
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All right, interesting.
The Lore Lads
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Yeah, depends on how far away he got, I guess.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
Perfect. I was able to find a book for you to recommend. Arthur and the Celtic Languages, the Arthurian Legend in Celtic Literatures and Traditions by Caridwyn Lloyd Morgan, Eric Popp, and John K. Bollard. That would be my recommendation for a place to start. As for Welsh legend in general, the Mabinogion is really good.
The Lore Lads
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But also, don't skip on Geoffrey of Monmouth and Lamorte the Arthur and all of those. They're good, too. It's just... Oh, also, Bernard Cornwell has an Arthur series, Enemy of God. It's really good. I have not made my way all the way through it, but he's the guy who did The Last Kingdom. So he writes historical fiction with a heavy emphasis on the historical.
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Not saying he did it.
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So he would be a great one, too, for a modern take on it. It's been so long since I took my Arthurian Legends course, I just can't remember all of the titles off the top of my head. It's driving me crazy. But yeah, Tristan and Isolde. A lot of the early ones don't have Arthur as a central character. He is kind of a vector by which other stories are told.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
Minecraft probably does save lives. But yeah, so obviously today we're going to be talking about the just odd behavior of the Ramses and also the fact that somehow... The profiler, the John Douglas, the mind hunter himself, did not see through several very obvious lies.
The Lore Lads
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But the historical stuff, too. Nennius' Historia Britannum has probably some of the best early Arthur information.
The Lore Lads
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The legend of Tate's Hell. Yeah.
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eligible i'm not catholic true um you converted would you be able to uh yeah any baptized catholic male can become pope i think even technically married then could be elected pope really yeah wow can you be married and then become a catholic and then become a priest and keep your marriage i'm actually i i i think there is a way to do it but you your marriage cannot remain A marriage. Intact.
The Lore Lads
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I don't think it's an annulment or a divorce, but I'm pretty sure that you have to physically separate from your wife.
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If I understand correctly.
The Lore Lads
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I'm going to look that up.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
So there are exceptions for it. Under certain circumstances, a priest might be married. Let's see. It's a very Catholic article on it.
The Lore Lads
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I was going to hire milk maids just to stimulate the economy.
The Lore Lads
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Here it is. In recent years, in recent years, that would not be the first time. There were three at one point. In recent years, however, the Latin Church has allowed more married men to be ordained priests according to specific cultural circumstances.
The Lore Lads
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For example, a married Protestant minister who converts to the Catholic Church can, with special permission from the Holy See, be admitted to the Catholic priesthood. Um, because they're already familiar with balancing the serial demands with the demands of their marriage and are culturally prepared to take on the responsibilities of being a married Catholic priest. Uh, that was okay.
The Lore Lads
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This is often the case in the ordinance, uh, ordinary it's established by Benedict 16 for Anglicans who wish to join the church apparently is primarily where it started. I guess it probably works for Lutherans, uh, as well. But you cannot be a priest and get married. You have to be married before you become a priest. Yeah, that makes sense.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
Orthodox, it works much the same way, but there is no ban on marriage for people who wish to become priests. But you can get married and then become a priest without there being any special circumstance. You just can't be a priest and then get married. Got it. In the Anglican Church, there's no ban on it whatsoever.
The Lore Lads
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as far as I understand good to know Yeah. I mean, the origin of the... They have all sorts of theological arguments for it in the Catholic Church. The origin of priestly celibacy in the Catholic Church is nepotism.
The Lore Lads
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They didn't want priests elevating their own children into the priesthood, nor did they want bishoprics that held land getting passed down to sons who were not priests and therefore passing out of control of the church. So it... It was more an issue of feudalism than anything.
The Lore Lads
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There was a whole controversy over it. I would imagine. The investiture controversy. There was a big fight between the Holy Roman Empire and the Vatican over who got to decide who was in charge of a bishopric.
The Lore Lads
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Yeah, the church basically was like, hey... Our bishops need land to provide for it because of the way the feudal system worked. They were like, our bishops need lands to provide for their bishopric and to make sure that they have the money and the resources to do their work. So they need to be landed. And at the time, part of the feudal system, bishops would go to war.
The Lore Lads
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Like, they would command armies.
The Lore Lads
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Oh, he didn't know. He didn't have the information.
The Lore Lads
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They were up until, like, the 800s.
The Lore Lads
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It became, it's very, one of the most interesting things about Western European history after the fall of Rome is the way in which the Roman Empire did not die. It became the church. And that is not that the church killed the empire or that there was a coordinated, you know, reconfiguration of power. It was that the church recognized Rome provided order. Right.
The Lore Lads
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And so they tried to emulate Rome in as many ways as possible so that just as with the Roman Empire, you had imperial provinces and senatorial provinces, you had church bishoprics and feudal fiefs. So it continues on and it just kind of changes from being the empire and the senate or the emperor and the senate to the pope and the kings. Right.
The Lore Lads
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But it definitely wasn't, it was not Rome in the same sense. There weren't, it wasn't like a bunch of families just coordinated renaming everything like certain people who believe in a certain tartar sauce world would like it to be.
The Lore Lads
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Lodge my lore, puppy. Also, I'm going to go grab that Fiji, which may or may not have microplastics after sitting in here all week, but I'm so thirsty.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
Oh, yeah, for sure. So also, just as we're getting started with tonight's show, because super chats have become something that gets a little out of hand. Which we're grateful for. Which we're very grateful for. We will, if we get to 8.30, we're going to go to Super Chats relatively early, probably 7.45. If we get to 8.30 p.m.
The Lore Lads
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If I die, you know what happened.
The Lore Lads
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Thank you. And then we can be eccentric cryptid millionaires.
The Lore Lads
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And genetic engineering. Bigfoot may not exist now, but he will.
The Lore Lads
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I'm going to let the Catholics handle that one.
The Lore Lads
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Mm hmm. Really? But by far, my favorite was the people who saw Easter isn't pagan as like a big sticker on the screen and then proceeded to comment something which I directly refuted in the video using sources. I will say the amount like they did not watch the whole video before.
The Lore Lads
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yeah it's the headline effect that's the thing is like I know we live in the Henleiden era but like good lord yeah I mean it's and the thing is I saw it more this year than ever before the whole Easter is pagan thing what I didn't know until recently is that's literally Nazi propaganda oh oh yeah it was something the Nazis came up with in order to undermine the Catholic Church incredible of course it was yeah
The Lore Lads
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So they were like, what didn't you know that actually Easter is based on a pagan goddess? One of my other favorites is the people who are like, actually, Easter is based off of a Germanic goddess. And then they give the same argument to people who say that Easter is based off of Ishtar, a Mesopotamian goddess give. And like they're...
The Lore Lads
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There's even people who are like Christians were like, no, Easter isn't pagan. Yeah, we did get the bunnies and the eggs from like the celebration of Estra, but that's that's it. No, not even that. The eggs come from Lent because people would abstain from animal products during Lent and then hard boil the eggs at the end and then eat them as part of the Lenten feast.
The Lore Lads
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Or in the case of in 1290, Edward Longshanks was like, you know, it'd be fun. Decorated eggs. Give me 450 of them, which probably means that the practice had originated slightly earlier, but that's just the first documented version. 1290 A.D. Bede was writing in the 700s that there used to be a festival. Used to be. In the 700s. And there's no further description of what the festival involved.
The Lore Lads
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and I, sorry, we are going to start by answering Super Chats that came in before 7.45. If we get to 8.30 p.m. and there are still Super Chats left over that came in before 7.45, we will answer those, but we will not answer things that came in after 7.45 because then it just gets to a point where it's, The show will go on until 10.
The Lore Lads
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The time between, yeah, the time between Edward Longshanks ordering some eggs and Bede saying there used to be a festival is longer than the amount of time the United States has been settled by Western Europeans. Yeah.
The Lore Lads
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The time between the death of Augustus Caesar and the fall of Rome is shorter than the time between Edward Longshanks ordering decorated eggs and Bede saying there used to be a festival.
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None. Also, the other thing is, it's not even that Easter, like the Easter holiday is named after this goddess. The Easter holiday is named after the month of Eostormonat, which is named after the goddess. There was no point at which Easter was named after the goddess. Easter was named after a month that was named after a goddess. There's still a degree of separation here.
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And everyone else in the world calls it Pascha.
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Yeah. Which is why the Ishtar argument makes no sense. They're like, Easter, Ishtar, obviously. It's like, I can do word association too. But no, these people called the goddess Ishtar, these people called the holiday Pascha, and these people called it Easter. These people and these people didn't know the other existed. Really?
The Lore Lads
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I mean, there might have been a few individuals who did, but the vast majority of people living in England in the 700s didn't know Ishtar ever existed. That's the other thing. People tend to have this idea that throughout history, everyone has known as much about other cultures as we did now. There are long periods of time where entire cultures were lost to history.
The Lore Lads
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The Hittites are mentioned in the Bible. Up until the 1800s, people thought the Hittites were just a tribe of Canaanites. It took until, like, the 1830s for archaeologists to go, oh, wait a minute. There was an entire civilization here that we didn't realize existed.
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Yep. So... Gotta remember that people didn't know things.
The Lore Lads
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Yeah, I mean, Ishtar was as foreign to the Anglo-Saxons as the Native Americans were to the Anglo-Saxons. Yeah. They didn't know.
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I will say the resurrection and the immediate aftermath probably would be a big one because I would like to be able to go and see that.
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Now, if we get through those ones before 830 and there's one that came in after 745, we'll start answering them in chronological order. but just wanted to let people know so they don't feel like, you know, oh, I've wasted my money. You know, we don't want you to send us money and then not get what you paid for, so just giving you that heads up ahead of time.
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I am definitely faster than John. John did not run a 4.8. John did not run an 11.2 second 100 meter dash. I believe I'm bringing, I'm bringing Nikes like some, some nice, some nice modern Nikes. And I am, I am beating that man to the tomb. Incredible. You'll have no idea how fast I can run. Also, they're running through the streets. I'm doing parkour. It's no contest.
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Uh, but another one, um, I think I'd be interested to see D-Day. Hmm. Yeah. Um, or Lexington and Concord. Those would all be up there.
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I'd like to go see the battle from, I can't remember which battle it is, but the one from the climax of The Patriot. Because I bet it would be just like how it happened in Mel Gibson's movie.
The Lore Lads
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Mel Gibson makes the most accurate historical films of all time.
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Yeah, The Patriot is actually a documentary.
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Yeah. Even Passion of the Christ. Yes. Just how it happened.
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incredible i have a friend who's uh who's a history teacher in new york and i every once in a while i'll be like have you told your your kids that the patriot is historically accurate yet and she'll be like aiden i'm gonna kill you that's great i'm like i can reach more children than you can that sounded worse than it was that's chimp don't you dare
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Oh, yeah. I would want to do Lee and Grant. Yeah, that'd be fun. That would be fun for you and me.
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Also, mods, if you could let people know that in the chat from time to time, now and then, so that they're aware, we would appreciate that. But without further ado, yeah. I make a big deal of John Douglas's failures here, but I do have to give credit to him. He did not know most of the material. As far as he knew, he was being told a story that could be corroborated.
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Yeah. No, Lee and Grant would be fun. Jefferson and Madison would be fun. Yeah.
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Ben Franklin and George Washington versus, uh, King George. And who was the commanding officer in the Americas?
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How thought it was general. How, uh, It's the right time period.
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Yeah, Churchill and Roosevelt versus Mussolini and Hitler.
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That would go hard. That would be a good one. Not that I want to be Mussolini or Hitler in that. I feel like it would be a hard rap battle. It would go hard.
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Margaret Thatcher wins. I just feel like Margaret Thatcher could have dropped a heinous couple of bars there.
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Probably. Wasn't there one that was, wasn't it like Trump versus Clinton and then Abraham Lincoln got involved?
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Has Epic Bat Rap Battles of History still been a thing? Oh yeah. I'm pretty sure it was Trump and Clinton.
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Might have been Trump and Obama.
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I can't remember. It was a while ago. It was almost 10 years ago now.
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Dude, when I was at Camp Jam in 2015 and the debates had just started, we had a band there that was named Donald Trump's Immigration Plan.
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And they played The Wall.
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I don't know why it took me three times to read that, though, but... You're having a stroke. I'm not talking about what you're doing under the table. What?
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That's the only one we got. I don't know. What other one did you send? That's the only one that came. What means of sending it are you using? People keep trying to send us stuff and it doesn't get here. Make sure it doesn't require a signature. Which is annoying. Which is annoying. Because we do get stuff from all the previous tenants. But we don't get stuff that's actually sent to us. Yeah.
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Yeah, it is kind of nuts.
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I would love to do more Viking stuff. Unfortunately, YouTube said no.
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He probably trusted that the attorneys knew the true story. The thing is, he sat down in front of John Ramsey and said something that I don't think he ever should have said, which was, John, I believe you. Because the moment he did that, his credibility was shot. I mean, he told the rest of this team. He told Ramsey's lawyers. He said, you know what? My report will be oral.
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Well, there's a lot of Viking stuff that happened.
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Like, I would love to cover the story of the colonization of Iceland. There was a lot of Viking stuff. What else we got?
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Can you tell me what to look up? I might be able to do it faster.
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it is just time period wise to be fair it depends on the captain yes and the crew yeah I mean you know Master and Commander Far Side of the World does a very good indication of that I think John Paul Jones on the Jackdaw can beat most people on the Aquila yes but you know Nelson on the Aquila versus pound for pound the Aquila is the better ship yes But again, it depends on who's commanding it.
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Ooh, that'll be a good... Nelson versus...
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How far apart were they?
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He and he only died eight years later. Yeah, they lived at the same time. He was Horatio Nelson was September 29th, 1758. And John Paul Jones was July 6th, 1747. He died. Sorry, not seven years apart. He died. He died July 18th, 1792. And Horatio Nelson died in 1805.
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Probably not. He would have been in his 20s.
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If you want a written one, I'll give it to you. But anything I put in writing can be subpoenaed. I might find things that you don't like. And if I do, then I will have to include them in my report. What astonishes me is that he had this meeting with John Ramsey before he sat down with the detectives, before he had a chance to review any information.
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Both were fighting in the British style. Yeah. I mean, that would be an interesting comparison for History Unhinged.
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Yeah, I'm enjoying it very much. As I said on Twitter yesterday, I believe I have found my home. It's literally split off from the Episcopal Church. It is an entirely American Protestant high church.
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uh not as of now yeah i mean we've just been focusing on other things and there really hasn't it's also just hasn't really nothing directly related to the fact that the kid is missing has happened yeah um it's plenty of drama but there's not we're talking about and that's that's the thing is we're not interested in covering the drama about it i only care about if something new happens in the case yeah
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I do think the walls are probably closing in on Chris and Katie.
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Yeah, Steve Fisher is no longer on the case. That's probably the biggest update. Really? Yeah, he's no longer working with the Proudfoots. Did he say why? He has me blocked on Twitter, so I don't think so. I don't think I've seen it if he has. At least that's my understanding. He's no longer working with the Proudfoots. He might still be involved, but I don't think he's working for them anymore.
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Chris has come out of the woodwork and is now talking on podcasts again. It seems to very much enjoy the attention.
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I mean, he has the standing invitation to come on, but he's a cowardly little pussy, so he won't.
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I mean, if he wants to. I would have John Ramsey on.
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That's probably what Chris is used to lasting.
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All I'm saying is you don't have four marriages collapse when you're good in the sack.
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I don't want to say I enjoyed getting back to it, but I felt reinvigorated getting back to it.
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Yeah. I don't know that it could ever be proven in a court of law. But just as we all acknowledge now that OJ did it, I think we can get to that point culturally where we accept the reality of the situation and it is unassailable. It just can't be proven in court because of the standards we have for justice, which is a good thing in the end.
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I think it's good that our justice system is so heavily skewed towards innocents.
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Because it is... I think it was either Payne or Franklin, I think, who was of the opinion that it's better that one guilty man go free, or that ten guilty men go free, than that one innocent man is wrongfully imprisoned.
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And I proceeded to put all of this down in a book. And what I what really bothers me is him disparaging. And I don't think he's disparaging necessarily, but him writing down that things that Steve Thomas said weren't true. when his only evidence to the contrary was what John Ramsey told him.
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I haven't seen this email, but I will look for it now.
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That could actually be fun. It's stuff like the squonk. Also, yeah. Squonk, the hide behind.
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But there's not enough information.
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I understand what you're saying, but I don't recall what in the video, probably the stuff where Burke was talking versus when I was talking, I did match it. I don't know. I check and see if YouTube has the volume leveling on, on your computer. Cause they added a setting where YouTube tries to do like audio stability or something, which really screw it's.
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I think the idea is to fix that, but sometimes it doesn't fix that.
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It was fine on our end. And, yeah, sometimes the way it plays on YouTube versus the way that we actually edited and exported the video was different for some reason. Yeah. But, I mean, I don't see how you're on, I don't think you're on the hook for tow bills if you report a demanded car.
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Yeah, no, you're not on the hook for tow bills. The owner of the car is. They have the registration based on the license plate.
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It's not your car. Yeah. You didn't leave it there. You just reported it.
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Yeah, if you got charged for a car you reported as abandoned, then that's somebody screwed something up.
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So for those, in case you haven't seen Friday's episode yet, the fifth part in the JonBenet series, we covered three main things. One of them was the problem with the leaks, how information was being fed to the press, being fed to the Ramsey team's lawyers, and one of the things that the police had to do early on in this investigation was figure out where that was coming from.
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Charlevoix, I guess.
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Yeah, that's the spot where the Ramseys had their vacation home. Yeah, we might have some questions then.
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I was prepared for every single part of that but the last three words.
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who has a voice of very similar timbre.
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In fact, it's a little difficult to tell him and I apart when you listen on audio. But sometimes he does. His voice is a little more gruff.
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What we should do is we should use voice alteration AI to make me sound like Master Chief.
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no no we should use voice alteration ai to make us all sound like the same person just to make it really confusing when people are watching that too i guess i was i was thinking of like a good thing to say as master chief so i kind of zoned out for a second like just a good thing to say is master chief for like for like his strand hinge you know like okay what's a good quote i have from that show like
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My theory is I forgot my theory.
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Like the Halo announcer voice, you know?
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Did I say anything out of pocket?
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After learning that you, in fact, had not read the Constitution until a month ago, that does not surprise me.
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Deeply disappointing. Anyway, we have so very many of these.
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Sure. I'll take it. Technically, technically, they could select J.D. Vance as Pope.
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We haven't gotten to it in the actual series yet, but for example, I covered the part where Larry Mason, Sergeant Larry Mason, was accused and actually suspended, investigated. He ended up suing of leaking information to CNN. And the reason that Eller suspected him was because... Steve Thomas reported to Eller that Mason was around the press a lot, that he seemed distracted.
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Definitely worth checking out. Randy Sellers.
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Kat just said what so like he killed the Pope in battle and gets a big hat it should work that way honestly look Ezio killed the Pope and that went well you gotta play Assassin's Creed I know that's what you were referencing like the OG ones I saw somebody do a ranking of those games that had Brotherhood near the bottom and I wanted to know that person's address incredible
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I would think they probably engineer electronics.
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I would argue that if you are exploring the Old West on horseback, that's also okay.
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If you're wearing it for some utilitarian purpose, like if there is utility to you wearing the cowboy hat, it's acceptable. Yeah. Doing it just for fashion's sake. Yeah.
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If you have a valid answer.
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The horse's name was Friday. Yes.
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And a lot of women should be able to show their ankles, maybe vote.
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He didn't really seem like he was investigating the case all that intensely, even though Mason and Thomas up to that point had a pretty good relationship. They had worked together a number of times. Mason had defended Thomas for certain things, like when Thomas was involved in some police-involved shootings. So this kind of broke down their relationship.
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Just like, damn their defenses. Let's go. Yeah. Like just, just, just a dude in flannel running up a hill with a gun. He was the Nelson of the land. Yeah. That's a good way of putting it.
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Wasn't he like deputy secretary of the Navy and he resigned to go be a lieutenant colonel?
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I think that was the story there.
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I mean, I don't think it's good.
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I also got curious about what weapons would have been used during the Spanish-American War.
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Oh, I might need to get myself.
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what the remington the single action army yeah yeah i i might need to get myself a model 1890 let me see it oh that's pretty like that is and i love remington that's that's so pretty oh
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We didn't have to, but I wanted to.
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Ooh, cult? I did not know Colt made lever actions back in the day.
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They got some pretty ones.
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Mason is eventually investigated because Eller sets him up. He gives Mason information that then ends up in the press. Eventually, and I will spoil this for people now because I think what matters for you guys who watch this show is more having all the information to understand why we come from the position we do. Later on, Mason will be exonerated of that claim.
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What was the exact terminology again?
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Damn, dude, I'm looking at the weapons used in the Spanish-American War. They were some pretty guns. I believe it. Oh, God, they're all so nice. I want one.
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Yeah, I want I want some lever guns so bad. I'm really hoping that when we get back to the gun show, they do have the Grant Lee rifle revolvers again.
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Yeah, I think they'd be usable.
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this will not happen again despite the fact that you know the guys who are working on it now are extremely good at what they do so uh yeah i might that should be back on the road this week thankfully i might have just found one i've got to buy at some point what's that the 1876 the winchester is that the shotgun no it's teddy roosevelt's lever action uh nice it's oh it looks so pretty yeah i like the winchesters would you like uppies not you
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Would you like your... Okay, come on. Atta boy. He wanted uppies.
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You know what? Well, if you promise.
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You might need to pinky swear.
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Mainstay is relatively cheap.
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And then according to Detective Thomas, again, this is hearsay technically, but I've never seen Lawrence Schiller come out and deny that this happened. Thomas says later in his book that he had actually he says it at that part of the book that later on he had dinner with Lawrence Schiller, the author of Perfect Murder, Perfect Town.
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There's also Airbnbs.
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Oh, God, not answers in Genesis.
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It's been talked about. I think I might need to at some point. It's a good conspiracy theory video.
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That's pretty close to what my opinion was.
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I think I, the one thing is that I, I think John would have been intelligent enough to not write a three page long ransom note.
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Oh, my favorite part of it is that Dr. Phil interviewed Burke. I very favorably, very charitably. And that the whole reason the interview happened was because CBS came out with a documentary that really made a strong argument. Burke did it. And then Burke went on Dr. Phil as a way to dispel that belief and only made it worse. Yeah. Yeah, I can't wait to get to that.
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Yeah. interesting yeah it was great i loved it loved every minute of it uh but yes so i the the pope is gone um he just say it oh he's done i gotta say i think it was intentional on the pope oh me too that's what i was gonna say next is this man literally held out for easter he did he that was good on him Good on him. And I joke a little bit. I got to poke fun at the Roman Catholics a little.
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And the full interview has been scrubbed from the internet. No, we found it. We did eventually, but it was obviously an attempt to get rid of the full interview.
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We didn't find it. No, we found it. We did?
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And at that dinner, Schiller revealed to him that Mason, while having a conversation with Schiller for the same purpose, said, you know, it was me who was feeding Ali Krupsky information, right? Classic Krupsky didn't work for CNN. I think she was the Boulder daily camera. So she was local media.
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It's that the Nazis were big Nietzsche fans.
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Hey, don't forget to give credit to our girl Margaret Sanger. Yes. She started a whole organization to get rid of black and poor people. Yes. And it still exists today.
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Margaret Sanger is the founder of Planned Parenthood. Oh, right. Yeah. You don't have to hate abortion, but you do have to hate Planned Parenthood. Fair enough. Because to say otherwise is to be like, imagine if the Nazis were still around, but they were more progressive. We'd kind of be like, ah, that's in the past. No, no, she was trying to eliminate black people.
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That was the original purpose of the organization. How fun. Yeah, I wrote a paper on that in college. Did not get a good grade on it. Really? Yeah, it was one of those things that people will try and pull out of the ancient lore of me.
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to it can i put you down for a second i gotta talk about serious stuff and you're entirely too cute for this no okay um one of the things that people try and pull up is like the ancient aiden lore to make me look like some sort of like far right freak i is um i can't remember what i was saying the paper on the eugenicist
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Oh, yeah, that I... Back when I was in freshman year of college, I... At the time, Turning Point USA had, like, a professor watch list. But the point of the list was, like, if you're a student who's not left-wing, don't take courses with this professor because they are... I... biased against you and will grade you differently than other students because of your political opinions.
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And I had reported this teacher as somebody that students should watch out for. And that gets brought up as like, he tried to get a, you know, he was trying to put a teacher on a hit list. And I was like, no, just like she graded the, it was a class about political writing and she graded conservative leaning students more harshly.
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That was like, I was a conservative leaning student at the time. I was graded more harshly as were the other four of us. That was it. That was the only reason I said anything. It was, it wasn't me saying, Hey, this woman should be fired. It was just like, Hey, if you're a student who's libertarian, this is not a good professor for you.
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So no, Mason did not leak anything to CNN, but it does seem because I've yet to see Schiller say this didn't happen. It does seem based on Thomas's book that Mason was leaking information to the press, just a different part of the press.
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Literally. I was just like, don't take courses with her if you're not going to just agree with everything she says, because she will grade you more harshly than everybody else. Which I would give the same warning to people if a teacher was the same way on the right.
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Yeah. It's just if a professor is biased against you, you should know that before taking courses with them. Yeah.
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Because I had a lot of professors who were very left-leaning, who were very fair in their grading, no matter what your opinions were.
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Those are the ones that should be praised. People like her should be avoided. That simple.
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And I was like, are you sure? It should be. Yeah. I was like, that's kind of what it's supposed to be.
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Oh, I had a TV script writing professor. Here we are. I had a TV script writing professor who told me that I needed more diversity in my script.
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knowing that I was a historian and that I was big on historical accuracy as much as possible in film, I told me I needed more diversity in a script, as in I needed several black or otherwise dark-skinned characters in a story that took place in Wales in the year 1400. And I just remember being like, the first documented black person in Wales is in the 1640s.
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Like, there's already a good amount of diversity for the time, given that I have English, Scottish, Irish, French, like...
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Oh, no. When I followed up with, I just can't do that, it would be historically inaccurate, which would feel to me as a historian to be dishonest. Yeah. And she was like, well, you're never going to sell it otherwise.
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Oh, yeah, for sure. She understood. She wasn't saying like, you're wrong about history. She was like, you're wrong for Hollywood.
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I will. I was thinking about looking at the Elisa lamb case too recently. It's just, I, it's not really a necessarily our kind of thing, but I don't like, It's one of those ones that's like, I don't know if I can add to it.
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And if I can't do it better than everybody else, I don't want to do it.
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Technically, that's not true.
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Technically... But not deliberately.
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We appreciate it, but never feel like you have to.
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Yeah, and there's no way of going back and looking at it once it's rolled by.
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Yeah, John Douglas. And I've also been poking around.
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I also have the National Enquirer's book of all of the interview transcripts.
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I can guarantee we'll be back on both. I'm actually... It looks like I haven't... There is no official announcement for this yet. I am going to be on The Culture War, one of Tim Kass' other shows, doing a debate with Jay Dyer and Timothy Gordon.
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And then the other John Ramsey and Patsy, the one they wrote together, so seven. I've skimmed through all of... I've basically read Steve Thomas' book cover to cover several times now. I have read through at least once most of Kohler's book, and I've been referencing it back and forth, skimming through it and going and finding what I need.
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About... I will be the Protestant representative. Really interesting. Yes. Jay is Catholic and Timothy is Orthodox, I believe. It's going to be more of a discussion, I believe, but it's being billed as a debate. So I'll be involved in that. And also, it looks like probably going to be on Timcast again at some point.
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I don't know for what, but my goal is to be able to talk about nuclear energy and trains.
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If you're not going to be allowed on with me, then I will make sure we go over our... Yeah, I'll have you prep me. Wonderful. Yeah, you can be my fluffer.
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The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
incredible uh evie of the stars for five bucks says finally catching a live thanks for your kind words about pope francis at the beginning hope you had a happy easter guys you as well yeah it was a good one and then this is the last one i actually didn't have a very good easter i i as i told you just really quickly we we stayed out way too late on saturday night we went to go get dinner and we were like oh let's go get a drink
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
And then we were out until 1.30 in the morning. I thought our Easter service was at 8.30 a.m. It was at 9.30. Something else was at 8.30. I'm new to this church. So I'm up at 7.30 in the morning. Hungover as hell. I stumble into the shower and Amanda's like, we don't have to go like we can. We can find another service to go to later or we can just go next week.
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The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
And I didn't say it at the time, but I'm sitting there in my head and I'm just like, if Jesus Christ can raise from the dead, then I can rise from this hangover. And that is what got me into church. So good. That mantra in my head is what got me into church that morning. So good. Meanwhile, I went to the church at 1130 Mass. Oh, yeah. You Roman Catholics and your 1130 Mass.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
But, you know, it is what it is. Yeah, no, I had a very good Easter. It was good. We did church, came home, dealt with the dogs, and then headed over to my aunt's.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
Yeah. It was nice. We did an Easter egg hunt. I won.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
Also, just to be clear, when I say we did an Easter egg hunt, I mean myself and my little sister, her boyfriend, my girlfriend, and several of our adult cousins.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
We weren't, like, it wasn't me versus, like, a baby cousin. We don't have any of those anymore.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
I think the youngest of my cousins there was 16. Okay. And he's taller than me, so he can suck it.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
Yeah, most of this week was Kohler because Thomas was so directly attached to it that I wanted to go with somebody who wasn't so directly involved in the story.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
They did. They did. Yeah. Were there any other large donation ones that we should get to simply because they were large?
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
I had seen some stuff about that. I wanted to look into that. I also saw a video from Desert Drifter from a couple of months ago, or a little longer than a couple of months ago, that was about a... It's frustrating. He didn't name the location. I... But a spot in, I think it was New Mexico, where it was a weird series of cliff dwellings. Cliff dwellings. Cliff dwellings.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
Unfortunately, as I found out, walking in the comments of that video, he actually passed away recently. Which sucks, because he had some amazing stuff. It's crazy. It was this video of him hiking through this weird little village on inside of a cliff face. 400 foot drops below him. Apparently, he died in a car crash. It's crazy.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
People go out and do stuff like that and then you die sitting at a red light.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
Technically, Jesus is three guys and one guy. Even me saying it that way is probably a heresy. But like... Yeah, no, Jesus was... Yeah, heresy. That's how I respond to it. It's an unsupported, heretical opinion. Jesus was not multiple guys. Jesus was one guy. Also, the people are like, why did none of the contemporary historians mention Jesus?
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
Also, Kohler's came out 12 years later. Okay. So there's a lot of time that had passed. Kohler was dealing with a lot more information.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
It's like, well, first of all, Jesus wasn't really a big deal outside of one 50-square-mile area until after he died.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
So that's why. Also, why do you expect some guy who lived in northern Spain and was a historian of agriculture to mention some random Jewish dude from Galilee? That doesn't make sense. Within a century of his death, people are talking about him.
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The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
The fact of the matter is, the vast majority of scholars of every single persuasion agree that Jesus of Nazareth most likely existed. The agreement starts to break down after that. Yeah, at the very least, he was a guy.
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The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
Yeah. So, all right.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
Did we actually end the show at a reasonable time tonight?
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
Wow. All right. Let's go. Thank you, everybody. It has been very real. We very much appreciate your time with us, your views, your donations. You make what we do possible, and I hope that we continue to serve you in the manner that you see fit.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
Yeah. And then I went and I looked at John Douglas's. So those were the four I used mostly were Perfect Murder, Perfect Town, The Cases That Haunt Us, JonBenet, Inside the Ramsey Investigation, and Kohler's is Foreign Faction.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
Yes. And then... I apologize if my reading feels stilted. For some reason, I could not get into a rhythm.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
All right, well, he's seen it.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
Oh, okay. He hasn't seen it. I was probably more in my head about it than I needed to be. I just felt weird. Well, you hadn't eaten. I hadn't eaten. That was part of it. Your sleep was a little off. Yeah. You know what? It's fine. That also, too. It's weird. I can't decide whether I'm better on or off the meds for the scripting days.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
Kind of like we do with our... I think it might have just been a... Like, it was probably the food. I probably just need to make sure I eat a full meal before we film.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
So that my brain has food and is not... Also, I was on a diet all week. So I think my body was probably in shock. Being like, what do you mean you're not eating 3,000 calories a day? Cut that in half. Because I was getting chonky.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
Yeah. Can't be chonky. Especially when we're trying to shoot a sexy calendar in two weeks. Do we know who she is? Your girlfriend decided we were doing it.
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The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
Yeah, I know. We'll find somebody to do it. Cool. I'm sure there's a local photographer. Sam Hendel. Cool. Yeah, you might do it. All right. Will do. Well, thank you, everybody. We'll see you tomorrow. Bye.
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The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
Yeah. So I have four books this week.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
Kohler and Thomas don't contradict each other. At all? In a few places, but it's mainly Kohler being like, this information wasn't available to police at the time.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
So there are points where Thomas might have said something that the information wasn't all there, but he was giving his perspective. I have yet to find a spot where there is a major contradiction between Kohler and Thomas, which is impressive considering there are 12 years between the books.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
Kohler was brought in, I think, in 2006 to investigate.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
Yeah. But he first gets involved in the case in 1997.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
On like January 2nd or 3rd. Yeah. Because he and he had been a Boulder police detective. He then took a promotion to go to Telluride and be the police chief. And, like I said, the most Colorado stakeout of all time, them skiing down the mountain literally behind Pasta Jay Alowski.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
My favorite thing has been all of the people from Boulder in the comments were like, what do you mean Pasta Jay was involved in this?
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
Schiller, I have found, he, again, hasn't really said anything that's contradicted Thomas and Kohler. He provides information that they don't. mainly because Thomas wrote his from his own perspective, and Kohler wrote his based on the case files and his own investigation, and him knowing Steve Thomas. Schiller's book brings in a lot more people.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
For all my disagreements with Pope Francis, I do believe he was a good man and a well-intentioned man. I like that a major part of his reign as Pope was to try and bring the East and the West closer together and seek reconciliation. All jokes aside, for any disagreements I had with him, the man I...
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
But not many of them that are that related to the case.
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The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
That's the thing. For example, he will quote Mason on things. And in those circumstances, I take what Schiller wrote. What I don't like to do is take anything that Schiller has that comes from a source that he doesn't directly cite.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
He won't necessarily cite people, but he'll summarize information without saying, and this came from this place and that came from this place. Thomas will say, and Tom Trujillo told me this, and I learned this from Eller, and I myself investigated this. Sergeant Wickman said this. Got it. And Kohler will do the same thing. Schiller writes his.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
But those are basically those are case studies written by the investigators. Schiller's is more of a comprehensive book trying to cover all of the information. So on my end, there are some things that Schiller says that are technically secondary sources because he is quoting somebody else. Whereas Thomas is a primary source. Thomas was there. Schiller asked Thomas a question.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
Thomas told him Schiller's a secondary source. And then there's things that Schiller says where he will summarize something, and that information came from somebody who heard about something from someone, at which point it's a tertiary source. I hate tertiary sources.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
They are case reports on steroids. Yeah. Whereas Schiller's is a documentary.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
Schiller's is basically a historical work. So it's different.
The Lore Lads
The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166
Douglas is also primary source because he is talking about his experience investigating the case. So what I've been using from Douglas, I've used Douglas only in this video because it's the first time he's actually appeared in the case. For Douglas, what I take is basically his primary source stuff, what he was told, what he experienced.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
Yeah. Gotcha. So that's the official date. Um, so who, uh, who was paying you or is paying you?
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
All right. So that definitely leads me into where I was about to go. I just want to clarify one thing really quick, which was, you know, you said Chris and Katie are the ones. So they are officially employing you. You're just not disclosing who is funding it. They signed the paperwork is what I'm saying.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
But yeah, I mean... I'm just trying to make sure that we're putting out what you said in the most direct way possible.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
since they don't have the ability to do it right so uh one thing i mean you may or may not be willing to answer this but uh one thing that i've seen uh from you on social media at least i've seen screenshots of tweets and then you know i've i've gone and looked for a few of them to see if they they're real uh there's been some some suggestions that you uh typically charge i believe it was a fifteen thousand dollar retainer fee and then seven hundred dollars an hour is that correct
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Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
Got it. But in this, in this case, you are a paid investigator.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
So I guess, you know, leading into the next set of questions I had based off of, you know, what what you just said prior to that question. You say you don't know what happened. If you did have evidence that it was Chris and Katie, you would you would take that right to the TBI. You know, do you do you think it's possible? I guess that they are in some way involved in Sebastian's disappearance.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
And I don't mean that they were strict or difficult parents and he ran away. I mean, do you think it's possible that there is a foul play angle where they were involved?
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
I was looking around some cases today, just looking at the next thing to cover because we do a new case every week. One thing that did occur to me is, I don't know if you're familiar with the Joshua Maddox case. No, I believe he was 16 or 17 year old boy who disappeared. He was found seven years later, stuffed inside of a chimney in an abandoned cabin two blocks away from his house.
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Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
And at first they were like, oh, he probably climbed in there, was trying to break into the house through the chimney, something like that. And then they determined that, well, he couldn't have come in from the top because there was actually a metal grate up there. He was also found, he was only wearing a long underwear shirt, nothing else.
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Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
He was found, I believe, upside down with his legs above his head in the chimney. And there was furniture in the way of the fireplace. So it didn't look like he could have gotten in there on his own at all. Led them to suspect foul play, but the one suspect they had was out of state and just a whole...
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
I'm glad you brought up the shoe thing because one of the issues with the case that I kind of –
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
noticed early on was that the dog there to my understanding scent tracker dogs specifically i don't think there were any cadaver dogs brought into the house uh and then obviously cadaver dogs and scent tracker dogs aren't always the same thing um but my understanding is that there were never any scent tracking dogs that were able to identify a path leading from the house away
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
So I know there was one dog max, but he was in the ground to start this dog. Right.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
Gotcha. So it was kind of the logical next step. You were getting more directly involved, trying to make a career out of this.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
So you would agree then that there's no confirmed scent trail from the house to anywhere else.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
Right. So... I guess the next logical question there would be, you've seen these camera angles. You said you had hundreds of hours of this surveillance footage. Over a hundred. Yeah, over a hundred hours. But did any of these cameras show the exits from the Proudfoot home?
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Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
I'm talking about just in general, like any of the angles.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
And can you see the front of the Proudfoot's property, like the front door? Absolutely. Okay. So from what you've seen, is there any point at which anybody appears to enter or exit the home from the footage you've seen?
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
Well, I guess the night in question, then.
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Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
So what I'm hearing, though, is that at the very least, the TBI should have an angle on the entrances and exits of the home for the full night. They do. And they have the back of the house, too. Got it. So that's that's incredibly interesting to me.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
Got it. So I guess then you'd... To be 100% sure, it sounds like, from what you're saying. And I wish... I mean, would you be able to release any of that footage? Any of those tests? Just put those lines at ease about it? Be like, no, really, you can't tell. Like, even if it's just... A quick video of somebody walking out of home.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
Mm-hmm. I mean, I would just put it this way, that, you know, there's a lot of people out there, from what I can tell, the majority of people are looking at them as suspects. Something like that, at the very least, would put people's minds at ease that they're not hiding something here.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
That, you know, you really, if you look at that footage, you really can't see anybody coming out of that house, whether somebody is or not. I think that would probably help a lot of people to maybe get past another reason that they're suspicious.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
Gotcha. Gotcha. So with this case specifically, you know, I know for me, I first saw the name Sebastian Rogers while I was covering Riley stream and I went, okay, well, there's not really a connective tissue here. They're seven years apart. One is on the autism spectrum. And for the most part, it seems to be, you know, a home body.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
Can I ask, is this the so-called flashlights video or is this something else? No. There's something else. Okay. So is it just an unidentified person walking past or through the property?
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Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
there's only so many people it could be really yeah i would you especially with where that neighborhood is it's a development like you're not there's no passing through that neighborhood to get somewhere else if you're in that neighborhood you're in that neighborhood to be there yeah so you would expect it to be somebody who lives there especially if they're out walking late at night so the quick follow-up i have to that is did you see any unusual or notable vehicles and that was
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
I do want to get to that in just a second. There's just one last thing I wanted to clarify with this video you're talking about, which I assume if it becomes relevant for the public to know, you would release it, right?
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Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
And just to be clear, I think that that's not the way to go about things. Without a doubt. I mean, we've sat down and we've talked to parents of missing kids. We've talked to parents of murdered kids. And the goal is to be respectful about it. You start that conversation over in writing. You send them over something and you're like, hey, I'd like to talk to you about this. Would you be available?
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
The other one is a 22 year old at university of Missouri, different ones, rural one city. It just didn't seem to have connective tissue. So,
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
And that's how we ended up talking with Tommy Booth's parents. Yeah. Would never just go, like, I can find where they live. I'm not just going to go knock on their door like, hey, you know, can I ask you about your dead son?
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
Which is why we've avoided true crime for most of our content. It just has such a... it's so easily becomes drama content. That's, that's not what you want. And so right before we get into the, I think the vehicles question is good. Cause I definitely want to know about that as well. I, this, this footage you do have that shows this person, are they walking?
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
Is it like, are they walking along the street? Do they seem to be cutting through a backyard? Like,
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Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
So I guess, you know, the next question there will be the vehicles. There was obviously this thing about two flashlights outside. There was a garbage truck. There was the fact that the camera had the wrong timestamp on it. like all of these different issues with some of these cameras that showed vehicles. There's been, there was, I guess, a, I, an Uber that came through the neighborhood.
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Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
There was a red car that people are like, well, why won't you release what you know about these individuals? I see where you're coming from with the, you know, well, I don't want to dox people. I think, but at the same time, you know, did any of these vehicles that you saw, did any of them stop by the proud foot house? Did any of them linger in the neighborhood?
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Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
Like, was there any suspicious activity there?
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
So you say that this person, that this vehicle is not foreign to the neighborhood. Is that, are you then saying that the vehicle is commonly in the neighborhood, but is not owned by someone in the neighborhood? That'd be fair to say.
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Is this, you know, think of it like, do you know who the owner is? You know who the owner of the vehicle is? Yes. Okay. You were saying something. I don't want to cut you off.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
Yeah. So we were looking for specifically this one kind of thing. And I'm going to be straight up. I still think foul play seems like a strong possibility in Riley Strain's case as well. But so I saw the name Sebastian Rogers and I went, ah, well, weird, but doesn't look like it's related. And it's also ongoing. You know, I don't want to get into this.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
So is this somebody with any known connection to the Proudfoot family?
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Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
Okay. So not a family member, not a friend. All right.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
So, I mean, is there, uh, regarding the night, is there anything else you think is relevant to bring up? I think, uh, I know Seth said that the garbage truck issue was a non-issue as well.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
uh which part which issue he had said at some point that he's seen the full the full footage from that uh that like the full angle not the zoomed in one that the news got and basically said that like it's not that car is not doesn't seem to have anything to do with the home that evening so there's still confusion about uh as far as i'm concerned i don't know why
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
I started covering Riley Strain only after they found him. I so because I don't like to get involved in ongoing cases for exactly the reason you might guess after the last two weeks. It's not my thing. I'm a historian. I'm not a I'm not a missing person investigator on the ground. So for me, I was like, all right, not going to touch this.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
So those were not one vehicle.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
All right. Yeah, I think that clears a lot up about that. Yeah. So, you know, I think where I'd like to go next with this, because I think that covers most of the questions I had about that evening that aren't related to – The things the Proudfoots have said and Seth Rogers.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
So one thing that I've heard a lot of, and I want to get your take on it, is I've heard a lot of people say, and some people have cited you as the source for this, that there are two hours where Seth Rogers can't be accounted for that evening.
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Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
And then, as you know, I was contacted by somebody who asked me to look into it. And that's how I got started. So for you, you know, you're out in California, right? Yeah.
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Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
Um, my understanding is that there's like 20 minutes where he was on break using the restroom or something that he's not on camera, but that for the most part of that night, his alibi is confirmed.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
So another Seth issue, something that I've heard you cited on, actually is with regards to him and Katie and how their relationship began. Obviously, there's this, I think, nine-year age gap between them. Yeah, I think so. Something along those lines. But, you know, obviously, Katie's much younger. She had Sebastian when she was 18, 19, maybe.
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Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
So one thing that I've heard is that basically the allegation that I, for lack of better terms, Seth groomed her from the time that she was 12 or 13. And then there's even been these allegations that they were having an intimate relationship before she was 18. Obviously, that's a pretty huge thing.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
Yeah, primarily you're out in California. So what was it that brought you into this case in rural Tennessee? Riley Strain. Really?
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
allegation to make so i guess my my question there is is that something that would you say that their relationship began when she was a minor and then if so what's your what's your evidence for that claim yes i and i have i have said that and i stand by that and um keep in mind i have i
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
Oh, so you worked with the Strain family?
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
Yeah, I mean, I see where you're coming from there. I think what I would counter with, obviously, you know, that I suspect Chris and Katie had something to do with this. What I would counter with there is that if, you know, if this was foul play... then the chances you're going to find Sebastian drastically drop.
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Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
It goes from, he's like you said, he's probably within 0.7 miles of the house to, he could be in Memphis. He could be in Virginia. He could be in Kentucky. Um, you know, he could be at the bottom of the river for any, all anybody knows. So I think that's it for me, at least that's why I'm sitting here going, all right, well, what, what makes foul play look possible?
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Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
So that's why I'm trying to get to the bottom of some of these things. And, you know, obviously like that's with Chris and Katie, you know, If if he feels slighted, then that could potentially be motive. I at the same time, there could be Katie and Seth. Yeah. Sorry.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
If Seth feels slighted, then that could potentially be motive in the same way that if Chris feels like for some reason or another, Sebastian is a problem. He might have motive to do something about it. So I'm just trying to get kind of an understanding. So but just come back really quickly to what you said about stuff Seth has said. Uh, did he, was it that he, do you have the screenshot?
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Like, could you share it?
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Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
If you use the share screen function.
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Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
You can email it over to us and we can pull it up. Yeah.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the Lore Lads, the official podcast of the Lore Lodge. We have a pretty special show for you guys tonight. A couple of weeks ago over on Twitter, after we did one of our Sebastian Rogers live streams, I got into a bit of an interaction with Steve Fisher here, who's a private investigator working on the case.
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Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
Yeah. I don't wear my Apple watch to sleep partially because I don't want the government to know. Really? There's a reason I stick with analog watches and that's one of them. Yeah. Analog Watch is from Holtzkern, a partner of the... Let me just give you one second. Yeah, sure, go for it. I'll just chat really quick with you, Thornberry, about what I'm thinking here.
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Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
It just occurs to me also, when we think about the JonBenet Ramsey case, we've been covering that lately. If you haven't seen our series on JonBenet Ramsey, the first four parts are out. They're all in a playlist. Very neat, very easy. We are doing this in the...
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Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
We're organizing this to follow the police investigation rather than to look at the sum total of what happened, what we know now, so that you can kind of understand how the investigation unfolded and why certain things happened the way they did. So that's... But what I'm thinking about with JonBenet here...
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Three people searched that basement that morning after she was reported missing, after she was reported kidnapped. Three people searched that basement. None of them find her. One even opens the door to the room that she's in and does not find her. And it makes me think, you know, what about that morning when Sebastian was reported missing? How...
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how exhaustive was the search of the Proudfoot home? Did they actually look to see if Sebastian... Did they clear every room of that house and ensure that Sebastian wasn't there? Because if not, that could complicate things.
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Fifth, yeah. Well... Depending on what you're depending on what you believe about genre.
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So, yeah. I mean, do you know the answer to that? Do you know how thorough it was?
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Yeah, I don't know what's going on with... It might be the Wi-Fi, yeah. Aren't we... No problem. We're on the internet, but... I have no idea. Yeah. Computer's probably just working too hard. Yeah. It's got, like, it's got three 4K cameras rolling into it. This one's probably just overloading the system.
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One other really quick thing. Um, cause this is something I've been trying to nail down. I, uh, The morning of the report, my understanding is that Katie goes to check in on Sebastian. He's not in bed. She then goes downstairs to see if maybe he's making himself breakfast. He's not downstairs. She looks around the house. He's not there. She calls Chris.
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Chris then calls the sheriff's department or county dispatch. Correct? Correct.
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Well, yeah, that's – I guess that's – yeah, my understanding was that it was kind of like a little bit of a split level almost, but – No, but, yeah, so – I'm sorry.
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So my understanding was that she searches the house, doesn't find Sebastian. She calls Chris. Chris calls County Dispatch. And then they send out either a deputy or a Hendersonville PD officer.
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And then if you listen to the dispatch call, they say that Katie is driving around looking for Sebastian, correct? Yes. So Katie left the house in the vehicle before any officers arrived.
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Not that I know of, no. I'll have to revisit that because you watched the documentary we did earlier today.
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Yeah, I'm just looking through the notes for this because I'm trying to remember exactly what it was that we had discovered on that end. Max led him to the retaining pond several hours. Yeah, I know that there was something out in Gallatin. I just can't remember the exact details about it. But yeah, so, all right, good to know.
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So there's no point that you've seen where she leaves that neighborhood?
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It was a little bit tense, but I think we've gotten to a good spot where we agree we're doing this for the right reasons. We're in the same place mentally, even if we at the moment disagree on what may have happened in this case. So, you know, I think... What I have been wondering this whole time is, you know, where is the other side coming from in this?
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so I this is this is another whereabouts question that I think is important because a lot of it's definitely come up many times I and I struggled back when we were doing we started our coverage in July I something that I was struggling to find a law enforcement source on, but I was able to find news media, private investigators. I think Seth's private investigator, uh, Heather. Yeah. Yeah.
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Heather. Uh, she had said that she confirmed Chris was in Memphis, uh, that entire night, but I was unable to find a law enforcement source confirming that has law enforcement established that Chris Proudfoot was in Memphis the whole night.
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But OK, so just but just to be clear about it, has a has any law enforcement source told you that they have confirmed he was in Memphis the whole night?
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Okay, got it. I'm just trying to make sure that we know what stage each information came from. Because at one point, Chris did say, I believe it was during one of the custody hearings, he told a New Mexico court that he had been cleared. Which was not true. He did put in writing that he had been cleared by the authorities in Tennessee, and that was not a true statement.
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Yeah, and in like three different interviews, which is another reason that this has bugged me.
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They got to know somebody is 100 percent not responsible.
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So I, I guess, you know, one of the other things I would want to go into just before we get to, I did want to take a few audience questions at least before the end of the show, but, um, One thing I wanted to ask, you know, is because obviously you and I have a disconnect on at some level leading us to believe what we believe. You definitely have access to a lot more of the raw material than I do.
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I'm more looking at, you know, analyzing motives and things like that because that's, you know. That's usually what I'm ending up doing is I get I come into something that's been a cold case for 30 years and I go, all right, what could have been missed? You know, because obviously at the time, the investigators aren't going to know everything.
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And you might look back and go, well, how the hell did you miss this? And then you dig in and it's like, oh, there were several very good reasons that you missed this. So with this one, one thing I did was I was primarily going through and I was analyzing the statements made by Seth on his shows, made by Chris on his shows, Katie on the ones she went on.
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And what I would say eventually kind of broke... broke things open for me, because I was looking for a motive. What I could not wrap my head around was, I went through everything and I went, okay, it doesn't seem possible that Seth could have abducted Sebastian. I don't see any reason why he would. I... But what about Chris? What reason would there be for Chris or Katie to harm this child?
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I can't... I couldn't wrap my head around it. It was Nina Gomez who gave me something to look at. So, I'm sure you're familiar with at least the gist of what she said. How familiar are you with the facts of that case? That custody case?
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Did you ever come up with any explanation for why he was hiding under a car?
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So I will say Sebastian's everything that was Sebastian was described as a lot of that did line up. It was very, very similar in a lot of ways.
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Yeah. And I will admit, you know, kids have done brutal things to each other for, you know, no reason whatsoever. We covered a story last year of might have actually been two years ago. Good God.
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um of a couple of young teenage girls who tried to murder their friend because they wanted to live with slenderman so like i know it's that's just unbelievable yeah create kids can be unbelievably cruel for no reason so and just and to be clear like i
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Yeah, so... Okay. So, I guess one... getting to it's kind of hard to keep everything in one track at this point but I did want to there were a couple more things that I just want to clarify really quickly because I think that they could end up being relevant obviously you know as you know
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sebastian hiding under a car in the neighborhood um you know these potential times that he had maybe sort of run away a little bit but then come home um you know i have you considered the possibility that it had to do with seth's method of uh you know, correcting Sebastian's behavior to put it one way.
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Cause we have, sorry, not Seth, Chris, I keep mixing the two of them up, but I, you know, I, I guess the question here would be, you know, do you know, are, are you trying to think of a way to put this? Cause it's something that I struggled with something that rang alarm bells for me. was that in one interview with, I believe it was Nancy Grace, but I could be getting this wrong.
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One of the interviews, Chris said that he had hit Sebastian with a belt once and that CPS had been called once. then in an interview with smiley stories world, I think five days prior, he had actually referenced a, you can tell based on the context of what he's saying. And I, you probably saw this in our, our series. Yeah.
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He told smiley stories world, a different story about a different time that this had happened. Um, so that would, you know, suggest that there were multiple times that Chris was doing something that caused Sebastian to go. And, uh, Report it. And then CPS got called to the house at least twice.
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It bugged me that Chris lied about that, that Chris said it was only once in the one interview, but he clearly was describing a different instance in the other interview. And then, of course, in the New Mexico court records, we have that he was ordered to take. I'm going to get the exact terminology. Twelve hours of high conflict behavioral skill training and 24 hours of parenting skills courses.
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And this was with regards to his daughter, Faith. So, I mean, that was one thing that rang alarm bells for me is it seems like there is a pattern. And at this point, a pattern that a court has recognized of Chris maybe not handling high conflict parenting situations. Well, do you think that could have played into anything?
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Are you saying are you saying that he was just he was saying that there was only one? Are you saying there was only one instance of him hitting Sebastian with a belt? But there were two instances of the CPS worker. So because he described he described two separate instances in which he hit Sebastian with a belt.
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Yes, I think we're talking about different things here. Chris described an instance that had happened I think a couple of years earlier when Sebastian was 12 or 14.
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So, yes, but I mean, there was no Seth denies that happened. Chris admitted he, there's photos of it though. Well, yes, but that's the thing is there's a lot of ways you can get a Bruce. I mean,
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I'm just looking at it like I'm trying to look at like the that's fine but how do we know that well I would hear what I would say is that with Seth we don't know for certain if Seth hit Sebastian there's circumstantial evidence to suggest he could have in Chris's case he straight up said I hit Sebastian once and then he described doing it a second time right but I mean hitting within the realm of you know what corporal punishment is it's not I mean I just want to you know abuse is a different
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It sounds like you and I might agree that hitting a child with a belt because the child wasn't wearing a belt might not be the appropriate response.
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The one thing I did want to clarify last before I want to take like one or two audience questions, if there's any good ones.
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Oh, okay. How much are, how are we looking for donations?
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You probably have to look at the actual stream on YouTube.
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I just really quickly wanted to, because this was something that I was looking at, just wanted to bring this back. I know we're trying to keep it about Sebastian and not dig up the old dirt, but regarding, because I think this is important. And we're going to have Seth and Tony on, and I'm going to ask them a number of the same questions. Just be like, hey, can you explain this from your side?
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But you had said that Katie had had multiple abortions before Sebastian. What I'm seeing, and I'm just walking through my thought process here. What I'm seeing here is that what Seth had said in this live chat, which I don't know when this stream is from, but he had said in this live chat, Sebastian was the only child that Katie didn't abort of mine.
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So where is the belief that these were before Sebastian coming from?
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Wasn't he engaged at that time?
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Gotcha. So, uh, when you say that you had spoken to law enforcement and just had some people, you know, reach out to you, are these, were these Sumner County, were these Nashville TBI?
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My understanding was that she was employed by the family at 12 as a babysitter. by the family.
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Yeah. I see where you're coming from. This is all stuff I plan to ask Seth and Tony directly as well. So they'll, they'll be able to give me their side.
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Yeah. So I'll, I'll get his side and then, you know, we can always, but you and I can discuss this at length through email. Um, so the last thing I would, I would ask before we go into anything else is, uh, One thing there's been some hullabaloo about is, for example, Nina Gomez says that she was under the impression that there were cameras inside of the Proudfoot home.
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But if you look at the interviews they did, they won't really answer the question, Katie and Chris. They keep avoiding it. I think later on they said that there weren't cameras, but early in the case, they were cagey. They wouldn't say where there were and weren't cameras. When you were invited into the home, did you see any cameras? No.
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Yeah, but I mean, like people were saying they have private jets and all this stuff. They are not the Ramseys.
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Yeah. There was one last thing. Oh, yeah, because this just came to me while you were talking. Just because it's a rumor I've seen, I haven't corroborated it. I want to just get your side of it. I've seen people saying that, one thing I've seen people saying is that Chris actually was in Hendersonville that Saturday, I believe, or potentially even Sunday, but that he wasn't at
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that house that he was like at a poker game or something. The other one I've seen is that set or not. Seth, Chris was not actually allowed to be at the home when Sebastian was there.
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You told an interviewer it was like the first weekend of February was the last time he was there.
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uh none off the bat uh i can see in there skim through and yeah we usually do questions via super chat uh but since okay no problem yeah since we've done the since we have the uh fundraising i guess yeah since we have the fundraiser going we don't have um sure those many of those i'm gonna see if anything's coming through twitter really quick um let's see
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somebody is saying i'm trying to figure out what this is about uh somebody said that you did not reach out to a tennessee number that riley contacted mere hours before he went missing but they did and an employee for cnn was the yeah it's kind of hard to read what this is saying i'm very confused
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I'm reading it off my phone. I'm just trying to understand this. Because I don't believe you said that you had...
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And I thought there's no better way to get to the bottom of that, no better way to understand some of the claims that have come out from you, Steve, than to sit here and have you on the show to ask you. So if you'd like to introduce yourself, what are your credentials and how did you get into this line of work?
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yeah i know i'm just saying that's where the noise is coming from so they they don't have anything else to do um i'm sure that there's going to be plenty of people who are mad at both of us after this conversation um oh yeah yeah that's but like i said from the very beginning you know i i didn't want this to be adversarial i didn't want this to be a gotcha kind of thing the goal here really was i think this has been a great i i
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All right. So, well, when you say was this one of like there's you know, there will be, you know, like a. I'm trying to think of an exact example, but you've got organizations like United Cajun Navy, for example, that come in and they get involved. They might be requested by law enforcement, but they're not actually a law enforcement organization.
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Yeah, I think that's a pretty fair position to take on it. I think one of the prevailing kind of understandings, I feel like, has been this idea that you're trying to run cover for the Proudfoots. Like I said, you and I have an honest disagreement regarding this. I think... I don't know how familiar you are with the JonBenet Ramsey case, but the...
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kind of the relationship that Thomas and Smith had. I see kind of a similar thing there where, you know, I'm seeing things one way, you're seeing things another way, and the evidence will show where it leads. So that's, I can respect that.
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Yeah, I can respect that. I can respect where you're coming from here. I do have one question, unless anything's come through this one. I mean, if you want to keep looking, but one big, because I see there's a couple of members only ones that came through. I don't know what those are about. Okay. Well, thank you. Um, but the, uh, just not Sebastian at all. You booked into Riley strain.
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You wrote a 293 page report. Uh, with that one, do you, do you think it was really an accident?
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Were the people you were talking to, were they like such and such county search and rescue organizations?
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It seemed to me, based on the autopsy report, that not only should he have been more battered, but he should have also been more decomposed. Well, I know the water was cold, but it wasn't. He was, he was decomposed though. I mean, the way that they described it was basically that he was almost mint condition. No, no, no, no, no. All right. I can promise you. I can promise you that.
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That's frustrating. Cause if the cops just, you know, released the video that you're saying, like, you know, if, if the rest of us could see that, we'd all be like, okay.
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Oh, I know you don't have anything. I was just trying to go for example of like a private organization versus a county one.
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That is confusing to me because from everything I was seeing, his debit card was upriver.
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So I don't know if... Are you talking about the one where he falls near the parking lot?
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That is not how they described it.
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They were like, he, somebody had said he was trying to do, I think a family member or something. Somebody said he was trying to do the right thing. And,
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They made it sound like he stepped in to stop somebody from being barred.
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Were they Delta 9, but the non-legal kind, or were they Delta 8?
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There was also, somebody brought something up in the comments section about how isopropyl alcohol is used in certain manufacturing processes for certain variants of...
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Do you think a renewed, as you said, you think he's probably within 0.7 miles of the house? Do you think a renewed search would find him? Or do you think it needs to be more than just a renewed ground search? Do you need ground trading radar and things like that?
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I would be willing to put money on it that Vanderbilt or University of Tennessee have the technology or access to the technology. I mean, I'll ask around. I would be shocked if we don't have somebody in our Discord who has experience with ground penetrating radar. So what I can do is I can ask around and see if there's anybody who we can talk to to basically be like, hey, would this be effective?
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And if it is, then I can try and reach out to maybe the Cyrus family and see if they can use some of their influence in Nashville to scoot that along.
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If I can do that, I will try and make it happen. I can't promise anything, but I will make some calls.
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I think a lot of people out there have this misconception that we're trying to prove the Proudfoots did it, and it's like, No, do I think that's the most likely explanation? Yes. Is my goal to nail them to the wall for it? No, my goal is to get to the truth, and if that's not the truth, it's not the truth.
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Yeah. I think it would definitely help.
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Yeah. And hopefully, you know, brings, you know, I just, I just hope we find him at some point. Yeah, I think we will. I'm really confident. All right. Well, I mean, if we don't have we don't have super chats, then I think we've covered basically everything. Steve, thank you so much for being here. I'm sorry that everything started out on social media. So like it was also flammable.
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like maybe heard some things that they didn't hear before or saw a different angle and um but anyway at least it was civil and and i appreciate you guys um having me on sure yeah and i mean we can if there's anything that comes up on our end or anything that you find out please let us know and we can keep you appraised if if of the ground penetrating radar situation if that develops yeah which hopefully it does
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Okay, perfect. All right. Well, thank you very much. Thank you very much. And to the audience, thank you for being here. And I hope this was helpful and that we can all maybe be a little bit more focused now. Yes. You know who you are. All right. Thank you. See you, Steve. All right. I was bringing us to the lovely main screen here. You just hit the wrong button. I see how it is. Okay.
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Well, Archie, do you want to come up and say hi to everybody? Okay. That's your thing. Come on. All right. There he is. Which camera should he look at?
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Archie, what's over there? What's over there? Archie, what's there?
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Oh, you are. Oh, my God. You see him on the.
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I need Archie whenever we have to discuss difficult topics. He's my therapy dog. Oh, you want to pause there? Do you have things to say? He's looking at me for a cue as if he's not the one asking to speak. Yeah. Yeah. Good boy. I'll put you down for a moment.
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boy so i think that was a good conversation i think it was great i think it was about as productive as it could have been yeah um it's good to know where there is solid like where there are the receipts for some things where they're kind of like the you know this is just my personal belief and then where there's stuff that it's you know i can't give you i can't show you this
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but I'm telling you I have it. So I think that there's a good spectrum there. I think that that clears up a lot because there were certain things that I was like, ah, well, you know, there were a few things that were said that I was like, okay, that's kind of what I expected. And then there were other things that it was, you know, I get where you're coming from, but I disagree.
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Gotcha. All right. So that's, that's, I mean, that's all very helpful to know and understand. I just want to, you know, there's, like I said, there's been a lot of people claiming that you, you, haven't even talked to law enforcement or that these people don't know who you are. And then I see that and I'm like, all right, well, who knows what here?
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So I think that was a good conversation. I think it was very civil. My impression of Steve currently is that he and I have an honest disagreement. I don't know. Are you in the same boat there?
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I didn't want to make it an argument, but I do wonder... I'll send him some stuff, and I hope he'll look at it. I just didn't want to turn it into a debate. So maybe he'll be able to see where I'm coming from with some of my concerns about Chris. So I'll send that along to him. If he's got stuff he can send me, I hope he'll share. But I'm...
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Yeah, if there's a reason to have him back on, I think that would be perfectly fine. Also, you know, he's... And here's the thing. I know some people are going to be mad at me that they were hoping I would make this into more of a gotcha kind of thing, try and put him on a cross. I don't think that would have been productive. No. I don't... He doesn't strike me as...
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Honestly, he strikes me as the kind of guy who's probably similar to me in a lot of ways, in that if somebody is a dick to him, he's going to be a dick right back. But, you know, I like to give people the benefit of the doubt. I did not get the impression that I was being deliberately deceived at any point. I felt like he was pretty forthcoming. And, you know, I...
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I was honestly pretty surprised by how honest a few of his responses were about just not knowing or how open he was. I think that a lot of the animosity towards him might come from some of the panels he's been on not conducting interviews so much as trying to get him to say things that... align with their side.
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I was, I was happy with that conversation. Um, you know, I don't, I don't have any ill will towards him and I, I would hope, I would hope that I'm correct in feeling that way.
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All right. Well. For those of you who may not have seen our series on the disappearance of Sebastian Rogers, there are the three parts, and then there is an updated one that is a full... It's an update, and then all three of the preceding parts. It's three hours long. If you have a long drive... That would be the thing to watch. Also, you know, there's a bunch of you here.
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I don't know if you're new to the channel. If you are and you appreciated the conversation, appreciate how we look at things, then I would recommend you take a look at our JonBenet Ramsey series. That has been, I don't want to say it's been a joy to work on because that's not the right term, but it's been very rewarding and very, I feel satisfied with the work we're doing on that case.
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Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
Yeah, that was all I wanted to do. There's no timeline. No. There's no timeline out there. It's been hard to make a timeline.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
I am still looking forward to finally getting to sit down and just go. They said this and this and they said this here and this was said here and this is said here. And here's what actually happened.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
Kohler did a little bit of that, too, in his book, James Kohler. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not going to sit here and tell you the cops got everything right in that case, because they definitely did a lot wrong. But the way they were railroaded as a scapegoat is absurd.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
Alex Hunter? Alex Hunter, that's it. He will be coming up very soon. He was on vacation in Hawaii for the first week or two.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
Yeah. The first four parts of the series, so the first three hours approximately, cover December 26th through January 1st.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
It's going to be a long series. It's going to be less frequent than we thought, unless these start doing much better all of a sudden out of nowhere. But we will finish the series. For those who commented on the post I made the other day and were like, don't not finish the series. How could you guys do that just because of views? And I'm like, if it were performing average, I could keep it.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
But we have to think of something different because we can't just lose money. We are a business. Unfortunately, this is, in fact, how we live. Yeah, trust me. I fully intend to finish it. It's just I have to make sure everybody gets paid first because it's not just me.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
If it were just me, I could talk about whatever the hell I want every week, and we'd have a great time, but they would be much worse videos. So thank you, everybody, for being here. We will have Seth and Tony on sometime in the very near future. I'm expecting the next few weeks. I'll reach out to Steve again and see if he wants to try and help us get Chris and Katie on here.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
Obviously, I would not be surprised if they did not want to walk into the lion's den on that. But now we can see, Chris and Katie, I can treat people I disagree with with respect. May not have accused him of the things I accused you of, but not accused, suggested you may have done. Allegedly, in my opinion, perchance. But yeah, I feel good. I feel good about tonight.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
I think a change.org petition might not be a bad plan either. I agree. Pop something up about ground penetrating radar. Yeah. All right. Well, thank you, everybody. It's been real. It's been good. Or has it? All right. I don't know what to say to end the show at this point. I'm Aiden Madison. Thanks for stopping by the Lore Lodge. Yeah, no, that works. All right, cool. Yeah.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
And that's Archie, and his tongue is out of his mouth because he has no teeth. Bye, guys. Bye.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
Got it. That definitely clears some of the stuff up. I'm sure that a lot of this is just some of the more drama-oriented channels, like taking one thing that they think they understand and then blowing it out to this whole community who then repeats it.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
So if you're not working with law enforcement and it kind of became – it sounds like it was kind of an almost accidental thing that you ended up getting involved. Yeah. I, you know, obviously you have I don't mean to say that like there was it was completely by chance, but that like you weren't looking to get involved in this case. Right.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
But so that you did and you said you had some conversations with Chris Proudfoot and then that you ended up going and sitting down with him. At what point, though, did this become an official working relationship? And what I mean by that is, you know, I guess there's there would be two two stages to that.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
There is, you know, you're actually actively communicating with him and saying, hey, I'm helping you out.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
We work on Saturday and we're really regretting our choices.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
And that's the thing is, it's not just that example. There have been so many examples of that through history in even just the last century. And she told on herself too. Yeah. What I just don't understand is how loose make out to the level that he was being as naive as he was.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Also, I believe at that point, I could be wrong here, but I believe timeline-wise, OJ had been found guilty in the civil court at that point.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Given my ancestry, I feel like I might have.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, let me break this down for you guys.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Considering I have been responsible for power and whatever at the place. It took six months to get things transferred over from the previous rental person to us because it's an old property. It was confusing. But, you know, it's Pico. So what would have normally taken a month for most people, it took six months for them. Got everything set up.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, and the thing is, is like, I don't think either of us are as naive as Lou Smith. No. Actually, as a matter of fact, I know we're not, especially after as many years as we've, you know, gone through cases like this. Yeah. It is possible for parents to murder their children. It is possible for parents to do horrible, unspeakable things to their children.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
It is extremely unlikely for someone not capable of committing those acts To leave the home of which their five-year-old daughter was just murdered hours later to go to a business meeting. Yeah, I mean... They are not capable of existing in the same sphere. You have to be a sociopath. Exactly. That's the thing. Either you are the type of person that could and would murder your family...
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
and you have to go do that, or you're not, and that thought doesn't even cross your mind.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
They had to make two separate accounts, one for gas and one for electric. Set everything up back in November. We started here in May. And it took until November for that to be squared away. But anyway, got everything set up in November. Everything was running smooth.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
And then all of a sudden, I think in like late December, early January, I got a notice that said something was wrong with auto pay on the gas account. And I go to log into the gas account. And I can't access it. There's no gas account. But the funniest part, though, is that every month we've gotten a bill for that account. Separate account number. Separate email. Separate full login scenario.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, no, I mean, I think it... At this point, especially with the level of digging that we've done and especially the level of digging that you've done, we are unshaken in our conclusion. Yep.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah. And the amount of either negligence or corruption that occurred in this case... I wish I could say it was surprising, but after doing this for as many years as we have now, I'm not surprised in the slightest. I'm just really disappointed that we have a system that allows things like this to happen. Because the fact of the matter is that this is not the only case that has happened like this.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I'm sure there have been hundreds, if not thousands. It's just that because this one was so high profile, we're still talking about it today.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I will say, from everything that I'm seeing in the chat, and for those of you making comments in the chat, I am seeing some of them, not all of them, obviously, because I'm looking at him, not looking back here. We'll get to questions later in the episode.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
And now... Maybe this is our sign. Maybe we just need to stop listening to what YouTube has us to do and just do whatever we want and then see what happens.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I'm so down. I'm so ready. I will say also some people said I haven't been able to watch as much recently because of school. Ah, you know what? It's the 20% every March. Every March and every late October. Is it exams and spring break? Because we've been racking our brains trying to figure out what exactly it was, and that's been the hypothesis.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Got on the phone with PECO. Told them the scenario. They said they'd handle it. A month later, another bill says it wasn't paid. Called PECO again. Said, hey, we'll kick this up higher.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I'm so ready to get back into it. Oh, me too.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I feel like you couldn't finish it, but you could definitely make some headway.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
No, I mean, from everything I've seen, even independent of the research you've done, you can't describe him in any other way.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
uh you know so sorry this is happening to you um you know walk us through everything i literally had someone screen share with me at one point to watch me attempt to log into pico and it didn't work they said this is really weird uh we'll get back to you in like three weeks and like have this handled for you another bill another i like when your dad goes out for milk yeah yeah
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Did we give Bertolino his award this year? I don't think we did.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Uh, yeah. Certificate and a trophy. Yeah. The trophy is just a giant ass lawyer of the year. Uh,
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Oh, wicked. Wicked. Didn't know those details about that.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
But the problem is that when you run a service that demands being paid for, but you don't allow the person that is using your service to pay for it and don't even let them have access to it, and then you shut off their utilities when it's not paid... That's like, I don't know, to me, that sounds vaguely criminal.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Was it the CBI one who had matched nearly 100 samples?
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
How is that not some level of perjury? I don't know. Like, I understand there was a deposition, but I mean... Ops can lie to you during an interrogation.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, well, no, and that's the other thing, is because, like, I am by no means a legal scholar nor a lawyer, but, like, you can object to relevance of... In a courtroom. In a courtroom, yeah.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I'm surprised. I don't know the legality.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Does she want the Ramseys to be exonerated?
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
She's friends with them now. The ones that are left. In that regard, why would you not release it if you want your friends... That's what I'm saying.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Why not give them to police? The only reason you wouldn't do that is if you wanted them to be guilty. So do you want them to be guilty?
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Is this a long con? Because if it is, I'm impressed.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Oh, yeah, I watched it. I'm also amazed that John still has as many strings to pull as he does.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
You'll see that in about a month.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I have a question for you.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Would you ever offer to have John Ramsey on the show?
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Do you want to make that offer?
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
God, we have such a weird existence. Mm-hmm.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I would love to see you talk with Alex Hunter.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Well, it seemed like he was the epitome of based on the story you just told. If you can't beat him, join him.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
So we'll start off with Nextus for $1.99 saying, glad to see you guys today. Woo! Glad to see you. Happy St. Paddington Day. Glad to see you too. Aaron for $2.58, love the specificity, says, it's not a cult. Also, all hail the Lord Lord. Thank you. Am I the Lord Lord? I guess. I guess so. Makes sense.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Trains and Stuff for $5 says, it's a shame that no one will be punished and sentenced to the electric chair for what they did to her. Mm-hmm. You never know. It might happen.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
If they did, I didn't hear about it.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, you know, kind of respect, actually.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
And why we got rid of firing squad. It was deemed barbaric. Really? And some cooking someone like an electric sausage is more humane.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
yeah no it's also like can be extremely painful and you can get to a point where you like are paralyzed but feel immense levels of pain for several minutes i think up to 20 in some cases yeah i would have chosen a firing squad too oh yeah i would rather firing squad all the way yeah it's instant yeah also if you got a sack over your head you don't know when it's gonna happen yeah so it's just over boom do you remember 1492
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
No. You'll remember your death as much as you remember 1492. If it's firing to us. Because, you know, I'm sure so many people in here are going to have to make that choice.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, what'd he do?
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Maybe he shouldn't have gotten the choice.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
That'd be good. That'd be good. Or maybe the... Or woodchipper feet first. The... I don't know. The honey bowl. Oh, yeah.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yep. Yeah. More things that we talked about on History Unhinged if you guys haven't seen that yet.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
And then it would eat its way out. Mm-hmm. Nothing I'd ever want to go through. Thank God. I've never done anything worth going through it for.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
He has ways. He has means. Gomb has been a member for 20 months and sent a message I cannot read. Oh, no, not again.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Oh, you shouldn't read it either, especially on this stream.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Episcopalian for $2 says, new fishing channel called The Lure Lodge when? When I can get certain things to function again. Might be this summer.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, one in four men, man. One in four men can't get your fishing pole up. Oh, boy. Let alone real. Trash Talks for $2 says, if the lads are ever on time, they're hostages. Yeah, that's true. Yes. T. Randall Photo for $5 says, stoked that you like the photos. More stoked that they're going up in the studio. Unhinged history topic idea. The Abaptist takeover. Anabaptist? Abaptist? Anabaptist?
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yes, but there's a no N there. There's a B here. Of Munster in 1532. Yeah, I'm sure you know.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Next is for $1.99. It says, get sick, losers. We already are sick. I've had 16 of these things since we started. Yeah. If I've sounded weird, it's because my throat is literally on fire right now. Imagine ripping fireballs. The Monster Rebellion.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Anabaptist, okay.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Trains and Stuff for $2 says, you look like a conehead with that helmet. Because I'm a conehead all the time. I have... I have no idea how to pronounce this username. Is it just backwards?
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Let me see. In backwards, like, reinstall... Reinstall... Notch... Agiri... Rora?
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Whatever your name is for $5 says, Aiden, please don't forget the SCs from Thursday. Twink Aiden, could you do a weird Bible episode discussing your deviation from the UMC on sexuality? Is that you? I guess I'm Twink Aiden. That's because I'm Twink Aiden. That's why.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Gum, I'm not reading this for $10. Don't tell people this. Don't tell people this. I hope nothing comes up if you search that. Is that one? It can be. Now it is.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
We did lose a Roman helmet guy.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
that username from Cyrillic again in $5 says, how did the linguistic slash cultural understandings of scripture leading to the unaffirming position on homosexuality?
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Also, while we were filming, I was researching and I found out based on like the Pennsylvania utility like corrections thing or whatever.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
um garen anderson 499 says hello boys your show helps me get through 14 hour night shifts plowing snow on a pass i think thorn bussy would really like hell let loose oh yeah you probably would i haven't played it yet i've heard good i'd play it with you yeah what is it about again world war ii oh yeah i'd be all in on that much so it's it's like if if the old call of duty and battlefield world war ii games were more realistic
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Oh, oh, I have seen this. I've also seen the kill cams from it and how they can give you PTSD.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would really enjoy that game, actually.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Also, Garrett, if you have a dash cam and an internet connection... You should start live streaming yourself bowing.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
You would do numbers, and by numbers I mean I would watch. He would. He would watch. Big on snow plowing. Big on snow plowing here at the lodge. Cyrillic again for $2 says, remember, I gave y'all F cards, your favorite British cigarette. Oh, no. British word for it. So this makes more sense why he's been asking the questions he has.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Oh, not not only that, but also they did not send us a 10 day notice. Nobody contacted us directly that it was going to be shut off. Yep. And it's for a business. All of which is against Pennsylvania law. Yep. So it's not like I appreciate you guys making the joke and saying a skill issue.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah. Gob is giving us the Polak card.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
You're going to... One from college. Someone's going to ask you for your papers and you're going to hand them physical copies of all these and they're going to arrest you. They're going to find a way.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
If it's the same one I think you're talking about, I believe you were given five. Yeah, you're right. I was. And all of us encouraged you to never use them. Yes.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yep. It is nuts that it's called the gamer word. T. Randall Photo is a new member.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
GorgeousGeorge499 says, let's talk about Norse and Astru and cults.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Also, somebody mentioned earlier, we're going to get to it eventually, but considering she's now trying to make the comeback, as we mentioned earlier, doing the whole Casey Anthony story.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, I think it'd be interesting and worth covering. Patrick McNeely for $10 says, I know how much you guys love abandoned towns and dislike the government, so you guys should look into the history. Our audience gets us. I know, I know. You guys are so good. You guys should look into the history of WowPack, New Jersey. It's both fascinating and infuriating. How's that spelled? Just W-A-L-P-A-C-K.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
W-A-L-P-A-C-K? Gomb. We're not using the gamer word. Gomb!
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
No, Pico has unlawfully shut off our power and not allowed us to even pay the bill by giving us access to do so, whether online or on the phone.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Even if you're a non-resident and you have a CCW in your resident state? Especially in that case. Why? Because New Jersey is a hellhole. How is that not unconstitutional?
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Anyone who's even vaguely relevant to New Jersey legislation, are you asking for more death by cops in your state? Are you asking for more bad press in relation to officers in your state? Because that's how you get it.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
So I'm just supposed to give up my home? Basically, yeah.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, no, that's the funny part, is the electric account has been paid off every single month.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I will never. Crazy, right? I will literally never live in New Jersey.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Texas of the North. It's literally the Texas. I've been saying that for a decade. It's the Texas of the North.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
The monopoly being?
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I hate Pico and let me pay my bill, but I like just about everything else.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Are they a monopoly?
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
The state government would, though.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Enough power to criminally enforce policies? Probably. I guess so. Yep. Yeah. That's great.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Uh, Cheyenne Tetral sent us three. I'll read them all in one go. Okay. Uh, human lid, $50. Thank you very much. Thank you. Yeah. Uh, Hayden's just wanted to pop the idea into the chat for you to consider everything. You guys cover as a mystery in some form or another missing for one cases, excuse me, true crime cryptids and other unexplainable or mysterious things of the world.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
You go over the history and the background of the topic, present counterpoints and arguments, and then most likely theories and your personal hypotheses. So for the idea, I thought maybe Friday videos could become Lore Unsolved, and Monday would be the Lore Lodge Live or something along those lines, just an idea I've had for a while. And it's basically what we do.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
No, it's essentially supposed to be an opinion piece based on the Friday show.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I don't know how we could market that more clearly other than just saying it almost every time we do the show.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
if that makes sense. That's why there's the Q&A at the end. And then A7XM Shadows194199 says, Killdozer against Pico in the works now? I will neither confirm nor deny the presence of a Komatsu D355A with armor plating and concrete and cameras and firearms attached and an upgraded cooling system, for that matter.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Tennessee. Tennessee? You know, maybe we should. Maybe we should see if he'd be willing to cart that thing up here and park it in front of Pico's headquarters. That would be really funny.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Well, have you seen what Cody's been doing?
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I want to do that.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
If you haven't seen his videos, you go watch them.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I'm going to say this now. Cody, Whistling Diesel, just officially, hello.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Do you have any interest in harassing a corporation that has unlawfully terminated our service for electricity, despite the fact that our electric bill is fully paid off and the gas bill, which we've attempted to pay for five months, has been out of our control and completely inaccessible by us from a monopolistic corporation here in Pennsylvania? Yeah.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
We would love to have you in general. But yeah, if you want to help us harass a monopolistic corporation into allowing us to pay our bill. That'd be great. Literally, just we're trying to give you money. Yeah. If anybody wants to clip that, send it to him and see if he's willing to do something with us, that'd be amazing. Because I really just want this problem resolved.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I've spent five months trying to get through to Pico multiple times on the phone, online. They don't allow you to go in person from everything that I've seen. So, yeah. I would like to pay our bill. I would like to have access to our account. I would like to not have a problem. Yep. You caused the problem, Pico. And I'm officially angry. And you can ask him. I don't get angry.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
So my patience is running thin. And if it goes on for, I'll give you another week. Beyond that, yeah, lawyers will be involved. And I have more time on my hands than you think. When I have a reason to, I can work really fast. I've seen it. Anyway, we'll get back to it. JD-FXST for Canadian $5 says, would you ever look into the case of Melanie Ethier?
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
She went missing in New Liskard, Ontario in 1996. Melanie what? Melanie Liskard, L-I-S-K-E-A-R-D. L-I-S-K-E-R-D? Wait, how is it spelled? Melanie, M-E-L-A-N-I-E. And then Ethier, E-T-H-I-E-R. E-T-H-I-E-R. Went missing in New Liskeard, Ontario. New Liskeard. Also, yeah, for you guys confused, our electric bill is fully paid off.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
But we have to have a separate account for gas because Pico doesn't know what they're doing. And I haven't been able to access that account in like several months, despite continuously trying to, to try and pay the bill that they keep sending us. But no, our electric is fully paid off every month. I can access an account, no problem. The balance is currently zero. Okay.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
And yet the majority of the building, not the whole building, but the majority of the building does not have power right now. But we still have gas. Let me know how that makes sense. Yeah, it doesn't. So we've contacted Pico several times.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yes. Actually, three times. Twice today and three times in the last 72 hours. And they have still not even let us be able to access the account. They have not allowed us to be able to pay the bill.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, I'm going to keep that one in my back pocket. But yeah, no, doesn't make sense. And now it is officially impacting our business based on the research that I did while we were recording the episode earlier this evening. They did not do the legal requirements that they would need to in order to terminate our service. They did not make us aware 10 days prior.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Nobody made an attempt to contact us. when they shut off the service. It is still within the bounds of winter. They legally cannot shut off the service before March 31st, yet they have anyway. So multiple instances here of criminal behavior, not to mention the fact that they have prevented us from paying the bill and even accessing the account to check the statements.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
by all means attempted multiple times for multiple months. So anybody, a lawyer in Southeastern Pennsylvania, we'd be happy to talk to you. If you in anywhere affiliated with PICO would be happy to talk to you because I would love to just get this situation resolved. But if PICO does not make this right and it continues to affect our business, I'm going to make it their biggest problem.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Anonymous 13 for $4.99 says, Susan, you didn't do shit, has got to go on merch. I agree.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah. Johnny J518 for $2.22 says, have you ever heard of Hesden Castle? No.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
We'll have to look into it. How is it spelled? Hesdin? H-E-S-D-I-N and then castle.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Interesting. Also, MM is a new member. Thank you. William No for $20, thank you very much, says, give me a video on the mine wars in Bloody Mingo, and my life is yours. P.S. The WVSP were made to stomp out unions, and the sheriff killed the mayor to know his wife biblically, plus armored trains were involved. That sounds sick. Yo, hang off. Read that again. So, yeah.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah. I've only had good interactions with any PA police in general.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
The other thing is, if you treat them like people, because they are, generally they really respect that, and it goes well for you. Granted, we are two young white guys, so we recognize that.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, so we're not pretending we don't have a little bit of a privilege there, but you know. I think it's generally good advice, no matter who you are. Anyway, Sir Jack Lucerne, for two euros, says, do you know about the Emanuela Orlandi case? We're getting a lot of recommendations.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
E-M-A-N-U E-M-A-N-U E-L-A Orlandi? Orlandi, yes.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
That's wild. Wow.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Wolf Lord brand one for $15. Thank you very much. Says for the past month or two, you're not popping up in my suggested slash most watched list. Even though I watch religiously, I've had to actively search for the channel to find it, even though I'm subbed and have notifications on.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
And by that, we mean we've had more than one meetings with YouTube where we've given them actual data that I've collected from the channel and said, hey, right here, we had increasing numbers of impressions, views, and click-through rates. And all of a sudden, for a video about a certain ship that we put out, it got an eighth of the impressions and general promotion rate.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
data points and then every everything after that seemed to be capped uh at around about that level what's so wonderful what's up with that and uh they said oh we don't know uh but we'll we'll kick it off the chain because you know we really want to help you and we want to make sure that you're uh getting everything taken care of that you need to get taken care of um but yeah we don't know we don't chat about anybody not what we do it's it's wonderful
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
If you couldn't tell, there's a lot of things that just happen to be hitting at the same time here at the lodge. Yeah, it's great. Our patience is really running thin. Even though we proactively keep trying to fix the problems, large corporations don't want the problems fixed because they make more money that way. Really annoying because they're inescapable. Anyway.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Gomb says he apologizes for the rowdy super chats. I didn't think we'd be this serious tonight. Have a good night, Norlads. I'll be sleeping by the time you read this. It's all good. Gomb, if you're re-listening to this tomorrow, we appreciate you always. But yeah, sometimes it's just not the time or place.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Nexus for $9.99 says, if anybody could be punished by the law for the murder right now, who do you think it should be? Also, I'll be counting the days to myself until a Mokalem Bembe video.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, I mean, the case for that seems by far the strongest.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Makes sense to me. Trash talks for $5. That's pretty cheap to get trash to talk. Oh, White Trash Panda here. I've been telling you for years to stop trying to please the algorithm, make the content you want to make, and the numbers will come in time.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
It's kind of a yo-yo thing with that. Yeah. Sometimes that's the strategy that works. Sometimes you kind of have to do what the data points indicate.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, to give you context for some of, like, the actual back end of what we can see analytics-wise, and by what we can see, I mean the little bits and pieces YouTube gives us that then I have to take into Excel and actually make sense of. Yeah. Generally, for a good video, we will get anywhere between four to eight million impressions per video when things are going well.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
We were there for a period of time. And then we did JonBenet, and then that dropped down to two, which was... 50% of our low end for impressions of normal. And, uh, the, the promotional level from YouTube was, I think at about 60 some percent when the normal is somewhere around like 80 to 85, 90 plus when it's really good. Uh, so 60 in relation to promotions from YouTube is really bad.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
What that tells us on our end is because of the content of that video, specifically the JonBenet video, uh, they were not promoting it to people. And the vast majority of the people who watched it had to actively go search for it. And therefore the views and numbers were much lower based on the contracts that we have with sponsorships. We have to meet certain criteria, yada, yada, yada.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
So like, it's not just that, you know, we can take the hit for, you know, a few videos because we're passionate about it. It's like, Theoretically, in a perfect world, we could. The problem is that, as Mattis has said, we have contractor employees that we have to pay. We have rent we have to pay for the studio. We have utilities. We have equipment fees.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
We have our own independent lives we have to afford. But also, we have contractual agreements with sponsors that... that we have to guarantee them a certain amount of viewership, yada, yada, yada.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
There are so many wheels turning that for as much as we'd love to be able to just say, doesn't matter, we're just going to do whatever we want to do and to hell with what the results are, we can do that to an extent. But the amount of people that rely on us to provide income...
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
in one way shape or form means that we only have so much leeway in how risky we can be in that regard if we get to the point where we're getting wendigoons views i you you can bet i will be doing whatever the hell i want to do yeah
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
That's the thing. We were in a position where we were starting to make capital investments into other people's channels and starting to like try and look into higher editors.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
So that way then I could work as like more of a producer in the role of helping other channels start and grow and just take some of what we've learned and kind of like, you know, act as a pedestal and like a jump off point for them. But once things started to hit a downturn,
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
we then had to go to these people that we were in the middle of talking with and, and getting them started and be like, Hey, we can't now. Cause we literally like we, we can't afford the time that it would take. Uh, we can't afford to bring on an editor now because the videos are, are tanking right now.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
So it's just that that's the problem is like it's if it was just the two of us and it wasn't our primary source of income, we could be a lot more wild with what we did. But there's just it has turned into enough of a machine at this point.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
And when I say that, I mean, there's just there's a lot of cogs and gears and levers and pulleys in the works that we can't afford to throw a wrench in it because the amount of time it would take to fix if it broke is more than we can afford. Yeah.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
That's fun. And yeah, for a couple of them.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
And that's the thing is like for, you know, for a couple of people that just commented, like, that's the thing is like, if, if it was just that we were making bad content, then we would just say, all right, we're not meeting our standards and we need to buckle down a bit.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
And that's the thing is like the, the reason that we feel comfortable saying that is a, we can look at the videos that we used to make in the videos now and feel comfortable that we have in, in fact,
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
improved i i shudder when i watch our old stuff same i know even just from like within the last year it's crazy how much we've improved since then but also we have the data points that show when a video does badly because people thought it was bad or because they just weren't interested or they just weren't interested or youtube itself is not showing it to people yeah and most recently it has been the latter yeah and that's mostly been youtube just isn't showing it and it like if it was because how to go any video for example
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
And for those who may not be aware, single percentage click-through rates are normal. Mm-hmm. Like... That's common. Yeah. Like, it is uncommon for it to get above, like... It's weird if it's above, like, six. Six or seven, yeah.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, that is unheard of for us.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
But also horrifically bad if it's below, like, four. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like each metric has such different numerical values tied to what is and isn't good. So it's really, it's a lot.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Which in certain ways we both did before this. He did marketing and I did advertising.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah. It's more like if we seem... If we seem concerned, if we seem stressed, especially even just through us asking you guys what you want to see and just trying to figure all that out, these are the back-end reasons why.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Also a lot of logistics like handling utilities that don't allow us to pay the bill.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
And if you guys have requests on specific things you'd like to see, that would be helpful because even if it's not necessarily something we think we could do, just getting the ideas from you guys would help us steer in the right direction.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
No, we wouldn't need to.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Wolf Lord Branwenf has been a new member. Thank you. Eleanor de Howler, Werewolf Queen for $9.99 says, one, happy St. Patrick's Day. Oh, happy St. Patrick's Day to you. Two, can we test the DNA? Three, what is fully confirmed? Four, who wasn't leaking stuff in this case? Five, is there anything we can do to support the wrongly accused?
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Next one was, who wasn't leaking stuff in this case?
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Is there anything we can do to support the wrongly accused?
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah. Giant Tetral for Canadian $5 says, you guys might want to consider separating the videos and the Monday lives into respective channels. It might help to make a new one for the lives.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, we might be able to do that on what we thought we were going to use the lore lounge for and just turn it into lore lads. But yeah, we'll talk. Lisa Shelton for $4.99 says...
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
No, I think you should just keep it. You've done a lot of work on that. Lisa Shelton from 499 says, I thought this case didn't get you the views. This is a nice crowd. Your friend Bluebird777.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah. Ellen is back again from $5 saying, what tests can we do with the evidence we still have and how many of those tests have been done so far?
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Makes sense. Teasmasaurus for 1666. Love this specificity. He says, would you consider a detailed watch through and critique of the JBR Netflix doc? And is there a chance you'll make something about Casey Anthony? That sounds like a Mattis channel thing.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Will Armstrong for five, five, six. Love the specificity says, hello, Lord lads. If you do want trophies for the lawyers, I can help. I 3d print and design stuff. Want me to follow up via email? The answer is yes. Yes, please. Ellen is back for $5 says about the woman with the play. Why has she not been subpoenaed?
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I feel like that would make a lot of sense.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Vengeful fork for $5. I'm just going to say go see a doctor, please. Oh, no. Oh, no. What is it?
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Not sure what kind of doctor you need to see just yet, but see one of them.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
That might also be the reason. Duo Black Rose for $5 says, I think your theory is the most plausible. Did you check out that gun shop I recommended? Hope the birds don't keep you up. I gotta go.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Oh, well, that's your mistake.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Well, it was never a problem before. No, that is shocking behavior. What do you mean? That is a... I've never heard of this before in my life. It's one of the alarms that comes with your phone. I've never even looked at it.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I mean, it makes a lot of sense.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
But I need essentially the equivalent of an air raid siren to get me to actually get out of bed in the morning. Do you just have cat wake up and then just be like, oh, right in your ear? It's usually the actual cat.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah. Well, no, believe it or not. Actually, it's usually like this morning I was sleeping and I felt a shift on my calf. And I looked down and I realized that Luna, our cat, had taken up the entirety of the space between my legs in search of warmth. And the problem is that if you've ever tried to fall asleep, usually it's hard to fall asleep without moving to some extent.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
And so when you're trying to not disturb a cat... while also falling asleep, not easy.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah. That's gotta be interesting.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah. Yeah. It's, you can tell a lot about a person about, uh, what they're willing to tolerate from an animal.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
It's because none of us knew, but it was like their fall fest. Yeah. So there were just so many mobbed. Oh, so funny.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Rivertown Taps has amazing food and beers.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Bluebird's also great. Or not Bluebird. Boardroom is also fantastic.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, most likely. Elsie for $5 says, would love to see you guys cover more cryptids. Have you gone over the Mothman or Flatwoods Monster yet? Mothman, yes.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Oh yeah, are we ever going to finish the PA cluster?
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Vampire from Pluto for $2 says, can the Lorelage Navy have a Viking longboat?
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
As would I. Although the flagship has got to be the HMS Surprise. Or the USS Constitution, depending. We'll see.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I'm so down. I'm so down it's not even funny. Abigail Stewart has been a member for six months. Thank you. Thank you. Says, you did give the laundry lawyer the award a few streams back, and I have definitely been a member for longer than six months.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, it is weird. Kellen is here. Hey! Howdy. Hiya. Yeah, I'm imagining he probably sent a chat and it didn't go through. Probably. Alyssa... I am so sorry. Jackie Leck... Jackie Leck? I'm assuming that's right. If I'm wrong, let me know. For $2 says, The Boats, a.k.a. Scafism, Worst Punishment.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Oh. Yeah, I hope I don't go out like that. Ellen says, feel better soon. Thank you. Thank you. Both of us, yeah.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yes, I think he gave us the ill. Not his fault. Just a matter of being in close proximity and talking.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah. Don't give me those eyes. Incredible. We're never beating the allegations. Never. Griff for $5 says, a while ago you mentioned doing a video on the moon landing. Whatever happened to that idea? What came up? Something came up. This was like last year. Yeah.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Oh, I think it was Sebastian Rogers.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
We need more conspiracy ideas.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
We could probably see if Kyle Hill would be interested in doing it with us. True. I feel like, well, he's got millions. He does. We'll hit it. We'd love to do more science stuff. We just need a scientist. Oh, the soup is almost ready. Oh, I'm excited. Kat's making chicken soup. Oh, dude.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
This, this woman takes care of me and I am. She really does. Our girlfriends are great. They are great. They're awesome. We're lucky men. Uh, Kelly, the official data for five, five, six says, just saying sup boys. Yellowstone, 20, 25.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I feel like he's week one.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Let them do their own thing. How about... How about we like... Yeah, he said week one. Nice. How about we just like like give them some cool stuff and then they'll like us. And then we can have some really cool trade with them.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
And then maybe, maybe we build some factories in some African countries to, uh, you know, give them a stronger market and then improve relations with those developing nations and the United States. So it doesn't feel as much like we're thieving them for their natural resources.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
And we're actually like having a good economy and moving away from China at the same time or, or invest what China's doing in Africa right now.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah. And strong arm the fossil fuel industry to do R&D for nuclear reactors.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah. High speed rail is possible as long as you make it monetarily incentivized for the fossil fuel companies, which is possible.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, if you give them enough tax breaks to make up for the money that it's going to cost them to do the R&D and the installation, it might work.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Almost through. Hang on, it reloaded, so I've got to scroll back. Oh, good God. I know.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
uh did an egg for just a regular chat says how about the wind turbines being completely useless and are actually a con so just a heads up in case anybody is thinking that because of the clip that they saw from land man or watching the show as a whole that was false uh they become carbon neutral within five and a half months of installation That was just wrong.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I think that was meant to be consumed as propaganda, not necessarily from the developmental side of the writers, but I think that character has lived off of propaganda, and I think that was the point.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Unfortunately, they don't have a counter-argument in that show, but knowing people who work in the climate sector and having a lot of ins into that format, having discussions about how inaccurate that show is is actually hilarious. Because, yeah, if anybody tells you that wind turbines never make up their carbon footprint throughout their entire 20-year life cycle, that is very wrong.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
It's less than six months. From soup to nuts, from mining the materials out, to production, to hauling it out on a semi, to installation, and upkeep with oil and lubrication and all that. About five and a half months. Less than six.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yep. thorium salt reactors guys totally clean it is amazing it is amazing the opportunity to stand before us china's got one now china has been in they have the largest investment in nuclear energy in the world right now and they have for years i think most of our leaders are stupid people no they're just greedy
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Anyway. Anyway, moving on. Anyway, Cody Casada for 999 says, been watching on and off since the TikTok that blew up about the Wendigo. Wow.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
You guys have been with me through tough and a lot of hours of work and a few jobs. Also, Southern Ohio near West Virginia is not boring. So glad you've been here as long as you have. But that last point is debatable.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
your lakes can be fun. I'll give you that. Wow.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Cyrillic for $5 says Arbor irrigation installer, uh, dash the tree of Liberty quote. Oh, wait, what? Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, nice. I like it. Nice. Yeah. Big fan of that, actually. Gom says, use the gamer word, please. No. Please. No. Pam has thoughts as a new member. Thank you. Liesel for $4.99 says, been a fan for years, but never caught a live stream. You guys have brightened so many dark days.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Thank you both so much for creating the Lodge. Thank you for being here. Thank you. That means a lot. We created the Lodge because we wanted to do something cool, but we've only been able to maintain it because you guys are here. So thank you. That is very true.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
this is this is a reciprocal relationship symbiotic issue yes so we uh why we ask you guys so many questions because we want to make sure it stays yeah as long as it can usually there's a you know one host and a lot of parasites you are a lot of hosts and we are one parasite exactly we are the lodge yes uh absolute zero has been a member for a month thank you yeah we don't we have do we have a term for fans of the show
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
No, yeah, that sounds like a slur. I was literally just thinking that. Lodger?
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
That's a great idea. It's amazing we've gone this long and not had a name. I can't... I'm not saying lodger.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
No, that sounds like something that happens in a bathroom.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
We'll figure it out. Yeah. Well, the Patreon has, like, the ranger... Yeah. So maybe that's it. Maybe. Man, my throat is killing me. All day. Anyway.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Gomb says, please.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Also, I'll have your gifts soon, he says.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
demonetized yep immediate uh kellen sent two um everybody's screaming no no god no um uh kellen twice for uh five five six love it says uh if you're interested in the norse faith uh acid true and folkism are two things that you want to stay away from that is what i've i've heard
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
quote how can you value your stuff over someone's life easy they shouldn't value my stuff over their own life exactly he gets it he gets it also if you enter my home without permission I don't know why you're coming in and I'm going to assume you're trying to kill me yeah especially now that I have enemies yeah
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
uh fruitcake for 199 says don't associate all neo-paganism with cult slash nazism no i'm not at all i was just saying like specifically the nazis were into that one kind yeah uh marphy baby for ten dollars says i own a kentucky rifle for home defense as we can expect the next job in a four foot long gun Tally-ho, lads. It's smoothbore, so it goes through the wall and takes out the neighbor's dog.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
A Kentucky rifle ain't smoothbore.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Which is so good. Also asked, when's the next JonBenet Ramsey video? You kind of touched on that earlier.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
And that we do amazing work with our research you don't find anywhere else. Thank you.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Eleanor is back with, would you be willing to interview lawyers on various law-related questions? Example, YouTube channel Legal Eagle. I mean, yeah. Yeah? We were attempting to have more guests on this show more frequently, but it just got to the point where we had so many things going on, we stopped scheduling them.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, the unfortunate thing is we refuse to hire anybody until we can afford to pay them a wage that we think is fair.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah. And we can't do that right now.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
So, yeah. Well, they know.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yes, it's just hard to do that.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
hands yeah it is funny when you run a business and you try and do it ethically you really do find like begin to understand how there really is no such thing as an ethical billionaire we could make so okay careful careful we could make so much more money if we just stopped being as ethical as we are and we simply refuse to do it yeah I, you can keep us honest on that too.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
There's some AI content that I really dig. There's a channel on YouTube called Neural Biz that I think I showed you one video, but this guy writes all of these scripts himself, himself records all of the voiceover Um, and like, you know, it does a lot of different iterations to create the original images that he uses.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Um, but essentially he's using it to create like an alien world and he's got like multiple different, like actual series of videos. Interesting. One is like a fake cop show, but with aliens. The other one is like a Rogan affiliate, like Tiggy Talks. One is a whole backstory series on how this thing happened. And it's an alternate Earth thing.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
The writing is so clever, and I fully understand that essentially he's using AI because he doesn't have the monetary means to make it a real show. Yeah. But also, it being AI creates that uncanny valley effect that actually makes the content work even more. So it's like an instance where it's a creator who's doing a lot of the legwork that is using it for an artistic choice. Yeah.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I just haven't done it yet because I haven't seen anything that fits my critique of how that works. Anyway. Patrick McNeely for $20. Thank you. Says too long. Didn't read for wall pack. It was bought. It was bought by force by the feds to make a dam that wasn't feasible due to the geology.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
The entire town is now part of the Delaware water gap and P like I said, fascinating, infuriating, weird dam that collapsed in PA. I think, I don't know if it was Jim Thorpe, but it was somewhere like that. And it was during a really heavy rain. It flooded the entire town. Oh, wow. Yeah, this was back, I think, in late 1800s, early 1900s.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
There's some channel that did a really good animation about it. But yeah, really wild story. It took out an entire railroad. Jeez. Yeah, it was insane. But yeah, we can definitely look into that.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
um absolute zero for five dollars says y'all make long drives better left my passport at college before a family flight christmas week and drove five hours total before flying alone to mexico it's okay i i somehow lost my passport in alaska i fully believe it was stolen oh that's brutal out of my room yeah what oh yeah yeah thank god we weren't on our way to canada yeah
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah. What happened? It's definitely not changing for the better anytime soon. No.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
That was a shame.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
It's a shame. How far did it make it before we... Oh, it was like a while. Yeah. Of course it was Philly.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Take your act together, Philly.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Hell, you could even be in Fishtown, have amazing barbecue, hit amazing bars, cross one street, and then get shot. Yep.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Damn. Eleanor is giving us lawyer money. Nadine Hurley has been a member for a month. Pam has thoughts. Gave us $5 for the legal fund. Just recently found your channel and really enjoy it. Aw, thank you. Fancy Nurse Nancy is a new member. Thank you. Anthony Tiff gave us $5 and says, I think Aiden M said one time his favorite church father was Augustine. He's good.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
My favorite, though, is Oregon and... Origin. Origin and Gregory of Nicaea. Solid. What? Solid. Solid choices.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Alyssa... I'm sorry. I'm going to mess this up again. Jackie Leck? Jackie Leck. Jackie Leck.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah. So Alyssa was asking, melon heads when the boat slash scapism for punishment?
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
While you do that, Andrew Gilly for $5 says, would love to see a History Unhinged episode with the Fat Electrician as a guest, and would love to see y'all have a Pepperbox show, too. Trust me, we're working on both of them.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
We would also need about 16 more hours in every day.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
We'd need a full-time editor just for that show, which we cannot do.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
There we go. Kix Young from 199 says, Anything on Giants and Appalachia? Also so interested. Ooh, Giants and Appalachia.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Did we ever officially do a deep dive into the They Take Apes in the Mountains thing from Roanoke?
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
YouTube is kind of pussyfooting around it. Yep. gourd pittier love the name for 499 says uh honestly i watch y'all at friday nights to end my week oh sweet appreciate it uh lisa shelton for 499 says maybe do a 24-hour live with your favorite past episodes i have done two 24-hour live streams in my life i will be so happy if i never do one again
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I'll tell you right now, if you guys can get us to a million subscribers on the LoreLodge main channel by the end of 2025, I'll do a 48-hour live. Are you going to sleep on screen? Yeah, I'll take a few naps here and there, but for the most of it, I'll be awake.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Probably some liquored lore. If we can get to a million subscribers by 11.59 on December 31st of 2025, we'll do a 48-hour livestream. Our girlfriends are going to kill us. Yeah. So good luck with that. Uh, anyway, uh, T Randall photo for $2 says we still have girlfriends. Uh, Anabaptist takeover is a cult story like Waco SRS. Serious. What that means. Yeah.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah. They might hate us if we actually do that.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Also, Lisa, you're fine. Don't worry about it. We're just making jokes. NoscaJ177 for $5 says, you might like your job too much. Try hating your job for a bit. You might be able to psych out the algorithm.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, it went beyond just the first week. Even the first, like, two to three weeks, you were... very much uncertain of what the outcome was going to be, and even when you started to get a general idea, you refused to come to a conclusion until you had looked deeper into the case.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I recommended it. I thought it would be better. I thought it would do better. That one's on me.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Everybody really liked the Killdozer one. Your judgment's usually good.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
All right. We're almost done. I know. Mark Reese for $5 says, Casey Anthony, she put herself out there a few weeks back. I would imagine there's still interest in the case. Yeah, it'd be cool to cover that. Yeah. Hang on, I got to reload it. Yep, there it is. James Knapp for $2 says, Hardcore viewers want the JB case casuals though? I think... I don't know.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, might be worth it. CrypticVulpix has been a member for nine months and Nate Palmer is a new member. Hmm? Cryptic Vulpix has been a member for nine months, and Nate Palmer is a new member.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
History's Army for $4.99 says, I missed the weird Bible this last week, but I just wanted to say God bless you guys and Lord Wendigoon. Y'all do great work. Oh, thank you. Vengeful Pork for $10 says, take my money, nerds. Keep up the good work. Thank you. Roy Pratt for $5 says, hi, guys. Long time listener. First time calling live. Can you possibly look into the case of Jermaine Charlo?
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
She disappeared in Missoula, Montana. Putting it on the list. Vengeful Fork for $5 says, Conspiracy video idea. A deep dive into why Wendigoon's lips are so large. He's just got a lot of... He's got that supple southern accent. Rolls off so smooth and so kind. Good on the ears. And the lips helped.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
He's actually got a BBL. That's why you don't see it on camera.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Kellen has provided a possible name for our followers. We cannot call them milkers. No, we can't. Nor do we want to. I'm sorry, guys.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
No, we can't. Crash Talks for $2. It's getting cheaper. Speaking of gifts, gift for Mattis arriving Wednesday.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I had a gift that I got myself arrived today. You what? I said I had a gift that I got myself arrived today. What was it? Five dollars. It was a copy of an issue of National Geographic from 1968. What was it?
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
What? What was the reason for getting it? It's the same copy that they used in Jaws.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
The exposition where Roy Scheider's character of Chief Brody is looking through a book and all these pictures of sharks that like scare him. And he's like trying to get information about it. It's that issue. Got it. National Geographic. I saw it on somebody posted about it on Reddit on the Jaws Reddit. And I was like, oh, that's so cool. I wonder if any others are available.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
And I went on eBay and there was one for five dollars. For somebody who's that's my favorite film and that's what got me into filmmaking. Five dollars for a piece of film history was more than enough or, you know, for me to pull the trigger. So, yeah, it was cool. Taylor for ninety nine says you should look into Maura Murray.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
A UMass West Point student got into a car accident after rambling, taking off and was never found.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
We're almost done here. Romulus, surprisingly not with Remus, for $5, says 90% plus of high-level nuclear waste is recyclable. Thorium isn't new nuclear tech. It just decays into U-233. Traditional reactors use 235 from 238. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, Kyle Hill has some great videos on why thorium salt reactors should be way more widely used.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
We have a nuclear power plant less than 10 miles away that's been functioning since like what, the 60s? Yeah.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
It's Crombie, but it hasn't operated. Oh, yeah, the old one.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's good stuff. Cuatro Jacinto for $2. Oh, my God. Cuatro, how you doing, man? Says, get this Rome truther off my screen now. What does that mean?
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Gamer $5 says, since the government seems to be erasing history, I'd love to see something on the Tuskegee Airmen or similar stories maybe on History Unhinged.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Remember that clip of Kanye from 2005 during Katrina?
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Replace George Bush with YouTube.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, very much so.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Remember when the Fourth Estate still did their job? Yeah.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
You know why, right? No. It's because when the Babadook was put on Netflix.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
So everybody was just like, is he a gay icon? And then everybody was like, oh, he's a gay icon.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I don't even understand how that's possible.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Is there such a thing?
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Right in this exact moment? um maybe but she loves me and makes me chicken soup when i'm sick so that's fair yeah um doomsday not saying the second half of that says a series of camping videos in spooky national parks we got one of those yeah yeah uh we're gonna we're going to yellowstone we could do some vlogging while we're there
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, we were going to do them when we were in Alaska, but we just got too preoccupied with just looking at how beautiful everything is.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Pappy Gingy for $2 says, listening to y'all at work helps me push through. Woo, thank you. You can hear it.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
um oh wait hang on what would you miss uh terror licorin uh from 515 said i'd love a video on your resource message methods been so long since i was in last in school i don't know what modern methods weighed through the bs for legit info oh i could probably do an explanation of that on my personal channel you probably literally just like stream it maybe that would be an incredibly boring stream it would probably be easier to kind of sit like set up a series of examples of what i do yeah
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
It seems like she's pulling an OJ Simpson.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Also, James4199 says, y'all ever seen Late Night with the Devil? I have not. I have not. Almost done. HeatherWhatever4199 says, thank you. Well, thank you. Thank you. And Trash Talks for $2 says, Archie Army! Honestly, not a bad one. Not a bad one at all. Yeah. What a great way to end it. Yeah. I wish we had Archie here. Great stream, guys. Thanks for coming out. Thank you for being here.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
This was nice. This was good. This was needed. This is healing. We almost didn't do a stream tonight. Look at us. I know. I'm so glad we did. I'm glad we did. Yeah. I'm glad we did.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Kat and I might do another Captain Kat at some point.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I've never played Sea of Thieves, but I've heard good things.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I mean, I have a crew. Also, hold fast. What's Holdfast?
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Susan, I understand that life is hard and we all need to find a way to get that bag, but, um,
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, it's like actively St. Patrick's Day.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Well, like clearly attempting to by creating a play with herself as an insert.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah. Don't involve yourself in ongoing cases and to the, especially to the point of meddling that could lead to obstruction. Cause that's just not good at all for yourself. If that's all you're interested in or, you know, the society in general, especially the young child who is at the center of the case.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Season possibly not series finale of Yellowstone. What?
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
But she didn't make stupid decisions, if that makes sense. Like, yes, doing crack is a stupid decision. But, aside from that one... the information is that she was a very intelligent young woman. She had her head on her shoulders. She was actively trying. I found this in a newspaper article after I finished the video. Uh, cause I mostly used the book for that one.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
Yeah, I could totally see it. Yeah. Instead of Vicodin, it is Adderall for me. Although I do have significant back pain. So who knows? Maybe down the line, I too will become addicted to opiates.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
Um, she was actively trying to get off of drugs. She had picked up two jobs. Like she was making better and better decisions.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
She had made some poor decisions based on her circumstances, not because she was an idiot, but, But because she was in some pretty tough circumstances. Because she was a kid.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
Yeah, exactly. So, and that's the other thing is like, yeah, she was a kid, but there were also these, you know, late 20s guys from out of town who were preying on these kids and convincing them to do drugs. Like, first of all, I gotta say, the Vermont State Police, I know Overacker was very complimentary of them regarding how they handled things after the first couple of months, but... I man.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
You find a guy who has been selling crack to children, you find him with a minor in the home with guns, marijuana, cocaine, crack, all of these different substances, and you'll let him off with 45 days time served. No, lock him up. Throw away the key.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
Don't sell crack to kids. I will say, I think that was, because I remember, so I didn't mention this in the video because I wasn't really in it, I guess, other than the call open. Hi. I have had contact with a Vermont officer from that time period, from a previous job, ages ago, things like that. I think that was a representation of the results of the legal precedence at the time.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
I thought you were going to say get a cane.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
Because I know they were, as law enforcement, were really cracking down on crack. That was not intended to be a pun, but here we are. But he said there were a lot of instances where they just had to let people go, even though it was basically cut and dry.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
No, no, no, no, no. That's back pain. What am I going to get? A back brace?
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
Yeah, because the justice system is not just the police. Exactly. But then I see something like Trooper Farva here, as we've taken to calling him. Yes. I mean, first of all, the boyfriend story is sketchy as all hell. This state trooper pulled up and saw a car backed into a home, saw and documented, reported seeing obvious signs of a struggle.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
Broken necklace, cup of change spilled out, lime wedge on the trunk for some reason. Did you say it was squeezed? Yes. Okay. Did not...
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
search the area didn't search the house didn't search didn't call for backup didn't say hey i've got something weird basically looked at it saw paychecks made out to brianna maitland from uh the black lantern in went checked to see if the black lantern was open it wasn't and then he went on vacation i think i missed that detail he went on vacation yeah he had a long weekend okay okay yeah so i didn't report any of it like didn't file his paperwork before he left
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
Well, I mean, if the back pain gets too bad and you can't support your upper body enough.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
Is it likely that Brianna Maitland would have been found if he had filed his paperwork on time? No, absolutely not. But it does not give me confidence in the police.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
That's the thing. Even though it was unlikely that that would have made the difference, it's not impossible that it would have.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
But then that's the thing. We see this over and over and over again across the country, even up into Canada.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
Especially up in Canada, especially up in Canada.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
I mean, the Amber Takaro case is a big example of that that we've talked about ad nauseum where I mean, it was so obvious to everybody immediately that this woman was abducted and probably murdered. And the RCMP was like, oh, no, looks like looks like she might have just gone gone out shopping.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
So maybe that. Maybe if another one of your ribs breaks. Another one.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
I found this mysteriously abandoned car with all of these things that would suggest this person didn't leave of their own free will. Yeah, I don't think they call that in. I mean, you get up to Maura Murray, it's one of the few times that they've actually bothered to have any sort of response. And even then... They were like, ah, well, there was an open bottle of alcohol in the car, so, uh...
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
Yeah. For those who don't know, I have broken my ribs on three separate occasions. None of those were fun experiences. I have chronic pain in the left side of my upper back from one that I broke when I was 11. And then I also have lower back pain that I can't totally figure out why I have it. But... It got better for a little while because I put Dr. Scholl's in my shoes.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
She probably deserves it, I guess.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
Yeah, the standards for, like, well-curated police care.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
What if it was your daughter?
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
Look, being a police officer is a very difficult job, but we're not talking about necessarily beat cops here and people who are pulling traffic stops and have to worry about whether or not they're going to get shot when they ask somebody to roll down the window.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
We're talking about detectives who... A state trooper who came across an abandoned car in an abandoned lot.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
Things that are not high-risk scenarios, generally, it's more just like... Lack of care. Lack of initiative.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
I will say there is one thing that bugs me about the Brianna Maitland case. What's that? Jillian Stout's father.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
Why that specifically?
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
Why didn't he notice that Brianna wasn't there? Jillian was the friend she was staying with. Yes. Which one newspaper. And here's the thing. It's very weird. The reporting on this. No reporting mentions that she lived with her dad except for one article I found, and it was in Overacker's book.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
I was going to say, I thought they were roommates for college or something.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
No, Stout was still in high school. So either Jillian Stout was living alone, and I ended up having to rewrite this out of the script. Either Jillian Stout was living alone and... In that case, first, did Brianna not know that she was leaving for the weekend? She left a note behind. Why leave a note behind if you know that she's leaving for the weekend?
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
So did Brianna not know she was leaving for the weekend? And if the idea is that she pulled over to meet somebody to pick up drugs or something, why do that on the side of a rural highway when you've got an entire house to yourself?
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
I mean, I will say like generally you wouldn't want to invite drug dealers into your home, even if it is.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
But that's the thing is like she she was already making those bad decisions. Fair, but I can understand not making that. Yeah. But even still, like why so far from home in an abandoned field?
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
I mean, to me, that makes more sense than anywhere near your house. I guess. Especially if it was somebody like from her perspective where she was trying to get like get off of it. You know, I mean, given the scenario, the fact that she's trying to get off of it alone leads me to be suspicious of the fact that she would have met up for drugs anywhere. Yeah.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
But I can certainly understand that people who partake are still cautious enough to be like, hey, I don't I'm here for the product. I don't need you knowing where I live.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
Yeah. And like that house, that's going to be a good drug. That's the thing is just from reading about it. It doesn't sound like people were making that distinction.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
You know, maybe they were, maybe, you know, maybe it was somehow a more intelligent choice, but even then, you know, I don't know. It just bugs me. The location bugs me. But yeah. So anyway, point is, you know, If Jillian Stout was living with her father, though, why did he not report Brianna missing?
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
The only thing I can think of is that this was a normal scenario for her to not show up.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
She'd only been living there for like a month. That's the thing. If she's really out partying a lot... From what I understand, at the time, ever since that assault, she hadn't been. And that's the other thing I don't get is the police just...
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
There's no explanation for why in this case the police, knowing that just under a month before this disappearance, there had been a fight over a boy between two teenage girls and they didn't follow those leads.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
That helped a lot, but it's still not totally better. And the last few nights I've been in excruciating levels of back pain. Can't really lay down. Not an enjoyable time. Anyway, to bring it back to the topic of the conversation, if the case isn't interesting, I have a lot of trouble... caring enough to write a 20-page essay on it.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
No, yeah, there's no good reason for that.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
And on the one hand, you know, if the police are going to come out and say, all right, well, actually, we did follow those leads. We checked up on their alibis. We were able to prove definitively that Keely LaCrosse was at her parents' house watching a movie with them at the time this happened.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
We were able to find people who corroborated that this James guy, who I learned died in a car crash years later, we were able to prove that he was, in fact, at a party in Canada when Brianna was last seen. Because, again, if he could prove he was in Canada, he could prove he was in Canada, and then he couldn't have been responsible. That's not what they say. I haven't found anything.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
Overacker didn't say police tracked down James and figured out that he was, in fact, at that party. No, his story changed. And yet it's somehow we're ruling out the, in my opinion, the most likely suspects. if she was with James at the time that she allegedly hooked up with this other guy, then he has motive. Kelly, it's her boyfriend. She has motive. These two people have both been cheated.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
Where, where were they on the night of these events? It doesn't help when you tell me that, first of all, James continued to have problems later in life and that Kelly went on to bite somebody after breaking into their home just six years later. She bit somebody, Aiden. She broke into somebody's home and bit them. Yeah, you can't.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
And this is where Overacker's logic just broke down to me to an extent, because he's like, yeah, I don't think she did it because, and I kind of like, in the video, I tried to say this, and again, I'm not trying to say Overacker's stupid or he's wrong or anything. I would love to hear his explanation face-to-face. She expresses no remorse.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
She is interviewed over and over again and never once is like, yeah, that was probably a mistake. I wish I could go back and undo it. No. Over something as stupid as a teenage relationship that obviously, based on the way this group of people was dating each other constantly, really didn't mean much to anybody. She's still mad six, seven, eight years later. That's not a stable person.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
Yeah, that's the thing is like teenagers considering at the end of the world when a relationship goes south or something bad happens, that tracks, that makes sense. But keeping that anger that long?
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
2012, she would have been 26 years old. Yeah, and generally by that point, you're starting to mature at least, if not have already substantially matured far more than you were a teenager.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
I don't think I'm still angry at anybody from high school. Well, there's the one guy, but he's dead. I told you about this. Ringing a bell, but yeah, anyway.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
Do you want to give any context to that so people aren't concerned?
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
I have a valid reason.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
I meant more why he's dead. Oh, he did drugs.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
Yeah. Don't do drugs, kids.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
Unless you're him. I don't feel bad about this. This is fair. This is fair. You're gonna remember what he did, and then you're gonna be like, oh, right.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
I'm thinking I have an idea, but I'm not totally sure. Either way, it's not something I'm gonna say right now.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
Yeah. So, uh... No, so, like... I look at the Keali LaCrosse situation, and again, maybe the cops just didn't say what they knew, but based on what I've been able to come up with, they just kind of went, eh, probably not her. And they chased down this Raymond Ryans guy, and obviously he's not a good dude. He just gets off. They let him off. He leaves the state. He was selling crack to children.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
I... So... Also, like, a lot of stuff we've covered in the past, like, I was realizing as I was reading through stuff, like, I went and I found, like, lists of, you know, unsolved, bizarre disappearances and stuff, and I'm like, okay, done it, done it, done it, done it, done it, done it, looked at it, not enough information, done it, done it, like...
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
How did he get let off? Yeah, that's insane. At a certain point, obviously this is tragic, and whatever happened to Brianna, it is somebody's fault. But at the same time, when you as a justice system allow that kind of thing, nobody takes you seriously. There's no longer any punishment. You know, I'm not even sure that they checked the car for fingerprints.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
We know they didn't do anything to the car before they towed it. They destroyed a crime scene. I mean, how do you show up and you see this? Again, car backed into a house hard enough to get hung up on the foundation and break through the wall. You have broken necklace on the ground. You have obvious signs of a struggle. And you tow it? Also, they didn't ask the FBI to get involved.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
I was going to say, not just towing it, but also not calling anybody to review the scene prior to.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
Yeah, we're like 20 miles from the Canadian border. This isn't just interstate. This is international. Yeah. she could very easily have been in Canada and they didn't call the FBI. They didn't call border patrol. And she was 17 at the time, right? Yeah. Yes. And she's a minor. Yeah, exactly.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
So technically we would work on near every single box is checked for FBI involvement, including gun, like guns and drugs. Every single box is checked for FBI involvement and they don't ask.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
And we see that again and again and again and again across the country in a lot of these unsolved mysteries where somebody goes missing, it's pretty obviously a criminal situation, and the local police are too up their own asses to bother calling in the big guns. I hate the FBI. I hate three-letter agencies. I rail about this constantly.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
The only three-letter agency I'm okay with is the National Park Service. Mm-hmm.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
Call the FBI! Well, that's the other thing, because there are a lot of reasons why cops might not investigate certain things. One of the top ones being, there's not enough evidence, this probably isn't going to be a closed case, it's going to look bad on my record, things like that. At that point, if you call the FBI, that's not on your record.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
It's not a case you couldn't solve, it's a case they couldn't solve.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
Which is why part of me wonders if maybe there was more to this on the police side. I... But at the same time, what I really I genuinely do think the most likely situation is that somebody her own age is responsible for this. And maybe they just maybe only meant to scare her. and then maybe something went wrong and they, you know, cause that's, I will say that much.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
It seems unlikely to me that James would have deliberately killed her. I agree.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, another week, another missing person, also missing, my will to live. How about you? Oh, same. Nothing's changed on that front. Oh, yeah, it's been a struggle. You know, we've been trying to find cases to cover, and the problem we're running into consistently now is, thankfully, there's a limited number of missing people. We are grateful for that. Yeah, yeah.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
Not contradicting your point at all, but the whole, I went and turned off the car and the lights thing is,
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
is weird. And that's why, that's where I think, like, maybe they meant to run her off. Maybe they just meant to scare her. Mm-hmm. Uh, freak her out, you know, like, as revenge, just bother her. And then something went wrong. Maybe Keali snapped. Maybe, uh, it, you know, maybe they were wrestling her out of the car cause they, they decided to take it a little bit further and something went wrong.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
Um, hit her head, who knows? And then they went, Oh, Oh shit. Got to clean this up. But the, the thing that really does stick in my head throughout the entire case is James showing up, turning off the car's lights, closing the door, getting home, and then not saying anything for days. And his excuse was, oh, I didn't want to get caught drinking and driving. Okay, go home. You're home? Cool.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
Everything's like, oh, the mysterious disappearance of Garrett Bardsley. And I'm like, yep, been there. Jordan, been there.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
A friend drove you. Which friend? I don't want to tell you. Or, you know what, officer, to be honest, I had been drinking. You're not under arrest, James. They can't use that against you. Your Miranda rights haven't been read. Like, you are not under arrest. Therefore, they can't use that against you in a court of law. They can come back and ask you at which point you plead the fifth.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
So as to not get in trouble for drinking and driving. He should have gotten home and the very first thing he should have done was call 911. And say, hey, I just found my girlfriend's car. She's not in it. It's backed into a house and the lights were blinking. Or at the very least, you come across and you go, that's pretty messed up.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
I should leave those lights on so that somebody does the right thing and calls the authorities. Now, it's definitely unfortunate that a whole bunch of other people drove past and didn't call the cops. But... That's neither here nor there. The big one is James to me. In my head, there is no way in which James is not involved in this.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
I will say there are some back from like deep in our backlog. The boy in the box came back up, been there, done that. What I was thinking, like, so I was going through part of what I was doing for work this weekend was going back and I was setting up Monday, which for ladies and gentlemen, we at The Lodge, after almost four years of operating, are finally utilizing a organization software.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
And that's why I'm having trouble, I think, with the Brian Rooney aspect. Yeah, he could have been involved. There was talk of an older man, but from what I understand, nobody ever pointed to Brian Rooney. So why are we saying it was him? I think maybe Overacker knows more than he's let on. Maybe I just need to sit down with the guy, but I don't know. I can't get past James.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
I think he has to be involved.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
I think that makes a lot of sense. Also, really quickly, I do want to make an announcement. For everybody who's in the chat who's been super chatting, thank you so much for doing so. But just want to let you know that we will be answering super chats that have been sent prior to 8 p.m. So you still have about 15 minutes to get in any questions or comments that you have and want us to see.
The Lore Lads
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But after 8 p.m., we're going to cut off Super Chats for the evening so that way we can make sure we get through them in a timely manner. And we're not here for two and a half hours after that point and make our significant others very annoyed with the fact that we take so long.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
We appreciate your understanding, and I wanted to make sure that we got that message out with enough time for you to be able to ask any questions you had. But anyway, yeah, back to that. I do agree that given the scenario, that makes a lot of sense that he would be involved. It almost makes no sense for him to not be involved in some way.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
And also just in terms of the many people driving by, it is a shame that the bystander effect is something so prevalent.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
And maybe maybe that's the key to some of this is more of the if you see something, say something.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
Oh, yeah. Yeah, that should be a lot more common. I know there are a lot of places that do push that, like the MTA. How much they have done that over the many decades that they've now done that for? I know it pays off a lot. It's the Metropolitan Transport Authority in New York. Gotcha. Yeah, specifically like subways and things like that.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
They have had... I don't know how long it's been, but their motto is, if you see something, say something. And it... It stems from a lot of crime that was happening at a specific time, and it essentially was caused by the bystander effect. Nobody was reporting anything. And they really started pushing that. And to my understanding, it did help. Yeah. But I just I don't know.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
Maybe it's because it was a rural community where there were already drug issues and people weren't trusting of each other. I can't really imagine. I mean, I see a car on the side of the road with just the white towel in it. And I check, like, I look out my window to see, like, is there a person inside of that car?
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
Like, just because if I saw a car in a ditch with its blinkers on empty, I'd be like, hey, I'm going to call somebody about that. That doesn't look right. Yeah. Why did people not have that thought? And the other weird thing, with Maura Murray, they did. Yeah. That's the other thing that really messes with my head here.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
Why in this specific case do you have multiple people pass by that car and say nothing? Maura Murray, multiple people stop. Now it's weird that the, you know... the person who is described as being outside of that car. When they asked witnesses, they were like, they showed them picture of our Marie and they were like, that's not who I saw. That's weird. I'm going to look into that for sure. But.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
Or at least one of us is for now. We'll get him squared away eventually. Squared away. I don't know why I turned Swedish for a moment there.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
It makes you think that something weird is going on in Vermont.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
Well, at that time, there definitely was, especially in that area. I don't know if the area that Maura Murray was in had such a prevalent drug problem, but I wouldn't be surprised.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
It was pretty rural. I wouldn't be shocked.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
Yeah, but I mean, I wouldn't be surprised that if in Brianna's area, a lot of the people had essentially the mentality of let sleeping dogs lie, because if that is drug-related, you don't want to get mixed up in that. Yeah. So that does make sense in my mind.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
Yeah. I just think, you know, especially... Especially in cases with missing women, too. I think there is a tendency when it's a man to just assume something bad already happened. What I don't understand is when you have a woman, there should be more attention paid.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
You are hiding the scheduling under the floorboards, aren't you?
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
I mean, when a man goes missing, even in a situation like that, like Malinowski, Michael Malinowski, I think is the name, the Pennsylvanian, they find his car, similar situation, just abandoned on the side of a road, some stuff in it, some stuff not in it, and they're like, ah, well, he probably jumped off a cliff. Oh, yeah. Into the Pennsylvania Grand Canyon.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
Which is a great reference to the meme that we talked about this weekend. But yeah, one of the things I was realizing is that there are a few things from way back in the day that we probably could cover again. Yeah, Kenny Beach was one of the things I was thinking about.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
You look at the Maura Murray, the Brandon Maitland... In those cases, I feel like there's a good reason to investigate it more closely. And I'm not saying that you shouldn't investigate the disappearances of men. I'm just saying that there are... We shouldn't treat them the same way, I guess. And I feel like in this situation, they were treated the same way.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
So essentially, you're saying that women disappearing deserves more scrutiny.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
In a weird way, yeah. Because men don't get trafficked as much. We do. Not as much. And when it's that close to an international border, one that is not particularly well monitored because it was Canada in 2004, you could get across with a driver's license at the time. That seems like trafficking should have been the first thing on anybody's mind. And you look at it and it's not.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
Oh, maybe it was drugs. Maybe she ran away. Maybe she was murdered. There's a border right there.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
Well, I guess the one thing that comes to my mind is, was trafficking as in the public consciousness at that point as it is now?
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
Probably not, but if you're the police, it should be. It should be, yes. And I think that's what's been bugging me as I look over these cases is... Women and men are being treated the same way in cases where I don't think they should be. I think if you find that a man has disappeared, foul play is probably going to be murder. Even if it's an abduction, it's probably going to be murder.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
With a woman, it's probably going to be trafficking, which should change the way you look at it. Amber Takaro, I think, was probably a trafficking victim. And maybe something went wrong. Maybe they decided that, you know, she was, it was too dangerous to keep her. You know, whatever reason, they decided to get rid of her.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
You rarely see instances of, I guess I should say rarely see, but it is more frequent that women are kidnapped for trafficking or abuse than it is that they're just kidnapped to be randomly killed. And especially when you're not talking about serial killers.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
with men there aren't that many reasons to kidnap a man unless you're gonna hold him for ransom or you're getting revenge for something so I think I probably didn't articulate this as well as I could have at the beginning but I think a big problem in these cases is you have police that aren't very well trained that are looking at everything as a homicide and
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
Oh, I wish I had thought of that six hours ago. I haven't actually started this week's case yet, but I could theoretically do that. But I liked what you found, and it actually relates to the topic of the show today. Yes. Do you want to tell the class what you learned at the mechanics today?
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
Brianna, I don't think was, if she was abducted, I don't think it would have been for the purpose of killing her. It would have been for other purposes. Now, if you look at the situation with James and Keali, then I'm thinking homicide. But I notice over and over again, the investigation always seems to point towards homicide and not trafficking. And I think that might be a pretty big mistake.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
If a woman disappears and she's not found in the immediate area, she's probably not in the immediate area. It took them a long time to get an APB out. It took them an even longer time to get her face on national television. By the time they did, she could have been out of the country.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
So I think what I see with these cases is the moment you find out that a woman has gone missing, it should be plaster their face everywhere. It shouldn't be treated like a homicide investigation where you don't want the perpetrator to know you're onto them. Yeah. Because to traffic somebody that you have to take them out in public.
The Lore Lads
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And you might say, oh, well, once the trafficker knows that somebody's onto them, they might just kill the person. Unfortunately, with trafficking, if the person gets away with the person they've abducted, chances are you're not going to find them.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
So, kind of a... It's obviously a catch-22. It's a difficult situation. But I wonder, had they put out Brianna's face earlier, might somebody have seen something? Yeah. Um, you know, especially at a port of entry, obviously in her case, because again, I really think Canada has to do with this, this specific case. She's so close to the border. I think they should have looked into drafting earlier.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
I think that that officer that found her that morning that found the car that morning, it should have immediately been, Hey, border patrol, do you guys have a missing girl? Like, did somebody cross the border who looked uncomfortable? A young woman. It should have been, you know, let's find out everything we can about this girl. Who are her parents? Who are her friends? Who might know something?
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
And instead, they waited days. They barely searched the area. They did not question the staff at the Black Lantern. I mean, at every single stage of the investigation, it failed. Man, I have a headache.
The Lore Lads
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Yeah, no, I'm in the same boat. My tooth's hurting pretty bad.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
I got my... I, like, can't think straight right now. I'm not even sure if I'm making sense. No, you are.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
I think I have a migraine. No, you 100% are. Yeah, I got my... I keep saying things, and I'm like, I'm not even sure I agree with what I just said. No, it's all been making sense so far. Also, yeah, I got my anchors off for my Invisalign this week, and it seems that one of the teeth they took them off from, they...
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
So I went over, so my truck is dead right now, and I turned out, thankfully, not entirely my fault. Turns out it was the previous owner who made some bad repair decisions, and it ended up affecting me down the line, which is great. I'm just glad I wasn't a complete idiot.
The Lore Lads
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put the grinder on a little bit too too hard and uh yeah now now top top left here uh can't can't drink anything cold initially couldn't drink anything cold now it's also getting sensitive to hot and now today it's actually just starting to hurt oh good i called them and they said there's nothing you can do about it so i gotta call my dentist tomorrow morning and uh
The Lore Lads
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call to get that filled nice yeah wonderful but anyway no i agree with everything you were saying um i think it makes a lot of sense i think a lot a lot of this comes down to most likely training for local uh and state police departments yeah um because i know one of the things i did in my previous job is we actually did a video series for uh the doj and it was a guy who the department of jeb yes
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
But it was a guy who had initially worked at it was in Delaware. It was he had worked at that police office precinct that we were doing some of the filming at. And then he was in the Marines for a while. He served in the Secret Service for a while. And then he became an instructor for this kind of national thing. I can't remember what it was called.
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But it was amazing that some of even now, some of the things that you would think were generally basic training information were some of the things that they were really going over because they were trying to increase all levels of training for department wide members from even just logistics handling people to the officers on the streets themselves.
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And the goal was to minimize violent confrontations for a variety of different reasons to save officers' lives and civilians' lives. But even just things like printing for officers to figure out whether or not someone has a gun on them based on their clothing. was something that was being covered.
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Just general tactics for handling individuals on the street when you are, prior to interrogation, just trying to get information from somebody who you may not be certain or even suspicious of yet, just to find a way to do something like that. This was like three years ago. Imagine what the state of police training back then was. But here's the other thing. I don't feel like it's getting better.
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But while I was there and we were discussing that, they know what we do and they're always interested in what cases we're covering. And one of the mechanics who works there was saying, well, if you guys ever want anything local, I know of a number of different stories in the area. One of them actually involves my aunt. And I was like, oh?
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Because they're not getting the funding. At a certain point, I feel like you don't even need to fund it. You can just go, hey guys, remember that time they screwed that up really bad? Don't do what they did. At a certain point, it's just leadership. Why is the police captain...
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when something like this happens, not harping on it for their, their staff for, for the same reason that Alex Hunter was not prosecuting cases.
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Yeah. That's the downside is that like, there are a lot of people in this nation, not everybody by any stretch of the imagination. There are great people out there, but there are a lot of people who are much more concerned about keeping their job consistent and their paycheck consistent rather than doing the right thing, which I'm not going to pretend I don't understand, but,
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But at a certain point, you have to be able to put the right foot forward and do the right thing.
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I just... Sebastian Rodgers. How, after JonBenet Ramsey, after Brianna Maitland, after, God, countless others, just so many other cases, the boy in the box even. The boy in the box thing was blown open before Sebastian disappeared. after all of these things, how is it that you still don't know how to control a crime scene? How is it that, like, this kid is reported missing.
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It's immediately an Amber Alert. It was a, it wasn't, sorry, not immediately, but within a few hours, it was an Amber Alert. The police show up to the house. They do not detain the parents. They do not bring them in for questioning. They do not secure the home and make sure that nobody enters or exits. They allow people to clean up
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They allow the family to clean up before they fully investigate it. They do not get scent tracking dogs out there. They get ground disturbance dogs. At every single point in that morning, they failed. Every single spot along the way. They allow, I mean, you allowed the two, the only person who was in the home when it happened, the mother, you allow her to leave town 20 days later.
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2024, this is a year ago, and they've learned nothing. At what point do you sit back and say, there's a serious problem here? You know, maybe maybe the FBI needs some more funding. Well, so maybe you give them the money to say, hey, you're going to go to every single county in the country and do a lecture on this.
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So that's that's what the project that I was involved in. That was part of their goal. But I'm realizing that a good thing for us to potentially look into. What is the actual level of training? that local and state departments receive. From what I understand, it's minimal.
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And so he gave the story of a young woman who was living in Norristown back in the 80s.
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Well, that's my point, is that it may just be in a position where all of these cases we're looking at are things that are not covered in basic training for these agencies.
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Yeah. I mean, I don't know. Maybe I'm overzealous about it. Maybe I'm emotional because I've been involved in researching so many of these lately. But at a certain point, the way I see it is a child disappears from a home under mysterious circumstances and Without witnesses and the parents don't have alibis, they should be suspects immediately. It's like.
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For those who are unaware, Norristown is approximately 15 minutes east of us. Yes.
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It should not be a matter of trying to coddle them or figure out if they're guilty first. Make them suspects, treat them like suspects. Yeah, it's going to suck if they're not. But at the same time, how many cases do we have to look at? That is the one downside of innocent and proven guilty. But the thing is, you're not arresting them. You're not throwing them in jail.
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You're not saying they're guilty. You're just saying, I'm not going to do what we did with John Ramsey. I'm not going to do what we did with Chris Proudfoot. I'm not going to do what we did with Deer Koontz. I mean... With few exceptions, when we've looked at cases where kids disappeared, it seems very likely that the last person to see them alive was the person who did something to them.
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I mean... It's just, it's too common. There's too much at stake. If a child disappears... look at the parents, especially if it's from the home.
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Uh, she disappeared. Um, there was a young man who I think by that point was probably in his like twenties or something like that, uh, who was considered to be responsible and the police could never pin it on him, even though apparently supposedly, uh, there were bloody clothes of hers found in his apartment, uh,
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Very Steve Thomas. Yeah. Or no, not Steve Thomas. Yeah.
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Rob Walker. Rob Walker. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, Brianna, who was the last person to see her? It was James. Suspect. Bobby Beza, last person to see him was a seminarian. Suspect. Actually turned out to, in fact, be a guy who was later caught for molesting children. John Ramsey, suspect. Chris Proudfoot, suspect. I don't... If you save even one kid, it's worth it.
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Even more thankfully, there are a limited number, an even more limited number of missing people whose cases are actually mysterious. And, you know, I don't want to be a true crime channel. We kind of already are. That's the thing. I know, I know. But, like, I...
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Yeah, you've put a family through the ringer, but I think when they sit down and you explain it to them and you say, look, we've had too many cases where we didn't move quickly enough to look at the parents or to look at whoever the last person to see the child was. Because we don't want to have that happen again, we had to look at you like this.
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Their brief inconvenience is not worth the life of the child.
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Yeah. And I think most parents at the end of the day, it might be frustrating in the moment, but they probably will, when all is said and done, appreciate it. Obviously, there's it becomes different when you you hone in on the parents and you ignore everything else. But the first people to be cleared should be the parents. Not saying don't look at anybody else.
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But why are we a year and a half into the or sorry, a year into the Sebastian Rogers case and Chris and Katie have not been cleared yet? To me, that suggests exactly one thing. They can't be. I, you know, JonBenet Ramsey case. The parents were literally never cleared. One DA went and was like, you know, we apologize. You're in the clear.
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And then the following DA was like, no, no, they're not cleared. They're not cleared. I don't know what Mary Lacey was on about, but they're not cleared. How many times does it have to happen?
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That's the million dollar question.
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It's different if you go inside for a second, your kid is playing out on the front lawn, you have a ring camera, and the ring camera catches a car passing by and somebody getting out and grabbing your kid. Don't look at the parent there. But if a kid is playing in the backyard, disappears, the last person to see them was a parent, and it's a fenced-in backyard? I mean...
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You know, a great example of this just popped back up and is trying to make a comeback in the public image department. It's Casey Anthony.
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Yeah, which is amazing because how in God's name can you make a comeback from that?
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I have no idea how she's not in prison. Neither do I. That would have been an obvious one to look at. That would have been a very obvious case.
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Look, hey, now we have the next three weeks ready to go. That's true. That's true. Speaking of the next three weeks, I need to not have my girlfriend hate me for them, so we should probably get to Super Chats.
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Yes, I agree. All right, ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for the Super Chats, and we are going to dive into the first one from the start of the show, which is from Gom, who's been a member for 21 months. Thank you very much. saying, Mattis, have you looked into the microbial bug outbreak in Indonesia? It happened in the 90s, and it's a really interesting story, good video topic.
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It's a specific type of microbial bug, specifically a microbial SCX bug? Don't know what that entails, but it could be interesting.
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Apparently there was an anthrax outbreak in Indonesia. Yeah. Interesting. In fact, apparently this is a second one. It happened in 2023 too. Indonesia, you good? All right. So what was it?
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uh that was yet enough that was still not enough to convict him in any sort of way for whatever reason uh i'm very curious to know why the 1984 norris town police department couldn't really i'm that down i'm gonna try to call the norris town police department so here's the thing like on the one hand we could do kenny beach this week because it's it's worth redoing that yeah i and that would give me more time to get in touch with the police yeah
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It was a microbial. You can say sex. You know what? I'm trying to be as PG as possible. Yeah. Microbial sex bug outbreak happened in the 90s. I don't know.
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I'm gonna need more details on that. Because I'm... Shocker, when you look up microbial sex bug Indonesia, you don't get a short list of things. I bet.
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Well, anyway, in the meantime, Missy J gives $20. Thank you very much. Saying, a new patron here was wondering if you'd look into the suspected killer, Larry, or serial killer, Larry Dwayne Hall. Lots of victims may be tied to him, but only by unsubstantiated and recanted confessions would be interested in your perspective.
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Larry Dwayne Hall. All right. Education, high school diploma. Hmm. He has mutton chops. Not going to lie, he kind of looks like Pudgy Isaiah with mutton chops.
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That's shocking, actually. I don't know how to feel about that.
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All right. Wow. What a Wikipedia overview. Larry DeWayne Hall is an American kidnapper, rapist, murderer, and suspected serial killer. An aficionado of the American Revolution and Civil War, Hall traveled around the Midwest for historical reenactments and is believed to have abducted, assaulted, tortured, and murdered dozens of girls and women. We absolutely should look into this.
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I am going to have to have so many euphemisms in this video.
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Not a very good representative for the historical community right there. So you would be a good person to help balance it out.
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That's true. He's confessed to more than 35 murders, but recanted them all. However, authorities believe he could be responsible for the deaths and disappearances between 40 and 50 young women. What? Which would place him amongst the most prolific serial killers in American history. Serial killers with the highest known count. Let's go with... Curious. I want to find the United States on this.
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Actually, I want to go with number of proven victims.
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Yeah, I'm writing this guy down.
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Oh, well, the biggest one is Russia, which is Radik Tagirov, who has 31. Oh, that's the low end.
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Top of the list is a Colombian guy?
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Take a guess how many proven victims.
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I'm going to guess like 160. 160?
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Suspected of 194 to 300 plus.
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Trying to find what the highest in American history is. Samuel Little appears to be the highest. 60 victims. Allegedly 93. You guys will be happy to know that the United States is not at the top of the list here. Gary Ridgeway I've actually heard of.
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We... I mean, I know you want to stick away from true crime, but doing deep dives on serial killers might actually be really interesting. I actually would find that interesting. That's the sad part. So would I. I did a whole, like, project on Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold in high school.
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I thought this guy's name was Moses Shithole. It's Moses... It's Moses Sithole. I... Yeah. It might be worth doing one on Jack the Ripper, too, because that one actually is still unsolved. No, they solved it. No, they didn't. Didn't they? No. One guy has been saying he knows who it is for the last 12 years.
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might also give more time in case we want to have him, uh, you know, I don't know what his schedule is.
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No, I thought they ran a DNA test and they figured it out through genetics who it was.
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If we're talking about the same thing, the same one... Did it turn out to be a Jewish guy?
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A Polish immigrant who lived in Whitechapel. What was his name? Aaron Kosminski.
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So honestly, Kenny beach is probably the way to go now that I'm thinking about it.
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If I'm not mistaken, yeah, that's the one I'm thinking of.
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Yeah, this was just this year, like in February.
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I'll look into it because I feel like I remember looking into that briefly and being like, oh, okay, so this is not actually proven. It's alleged.
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Fair. Fair. But yeah, worth looking into. I would be so down to go into serial killers.
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All right. Cool. All right. Yes, we're doing serial killers now. Nice. What's the meme? The supply, the factory line meme where it's like, guess we're making such and such now?
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That's a weird one. It is a weird one to, to wrap up this story real quick is, um, so apparently, uh, she has never been found. Uh, her parents never stopped looking for her, but supposedly, uh,
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I'm not familiar, believe it or not.
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I'm going to pull it up for you.
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Fair enough. While you do that, Chimp with a Hand Grenade says, Flaw has a donor goal of 1K for him to wear a maid dress. Help us, Mattis, do a Wendigoon. I guess we're doing circles now. Incredible.
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Yeah, that's how I'm feeling.
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Hang on, wait. Show that to your camera.
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Why is it so choppy? There we go. It's not really visible. You do it. My hair is such a mess right now. I look like the aliens guy. It's fitting. It's getting cut on the 23rd.
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Seriously, I could do it. Did you hear what Chimp said? out of context that is wild question but did you hear what did he say he said flaw has a dono goal of 1k for him to wear a maid dress help us mattis do a wendigoon i already did that when years ago now no no no no not you wear one Flaw has a donation goal. For him to wear a main dress. For 1K. Subscribers? No, 1K in donations.
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That's probably something we can make happen. That's the thing. They're saying do a Wendigoon. Gotcha. Oh, okay. I see what you're saying. Speaking of which, Flaw and I stream on Friday nights, typically on each of our own respective channels. I helped him buy a computer so he could do it. Nice. Yeah. I'm a good man.
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Um, I alerted our ripple for seven, six, two. Nice said great job on red thread. One of the best episodes by far. And you sounded about 60% less autistic than usual return. When love y'all. Yeah.
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She was one of three individuals who were involved in disappearance, one of young, the three women, one of three young women who were missing in Norristown or that roughly area in the 80s, which apparently, as I was told, was the basis for the book and subsequent film, The Lovely Bones.
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I haven't listened to it yet, but I want to, uh, yeah, no, that was a lot of fun. It went for three hours and 45 minutes. I believe it is officially the longest red thread episode. That's impressive. Well, to be fair, our Donner Party video is two and a half hours long as it is. Were you guys just reacting to the Donner Party video? No, we were discussing the Donner Party, but... Got it.
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As it turns out, that is the most comprehensive documentary on the Donner Party that exists. Shocker. So, Jackson was telling me that while he was doing research and taking notes to write the script for it, he basically just used our video because... I wish she had told me that I would have just sent him the transcript. Yeah. Fair. Would have saved him time. Um, Yeah, so that was a lot of fun.
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We already talked about me coming back to talk about a number of different things. I think Freemasonry was among them. Several other items that I can't totally remember off the top of my head. But yeah, I'll probably be back. I don't know exactly when, but I am a very big fan of that little crew. Nice. Also did not know that the other guy, Jordan, was the one who his house got set on fire.
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Remember a couple years ago when there was news that a YouTuber in Australia got his house set on fire? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was him.
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Fun show, though. Yeah, nice. Had a good time. Love to hear it.
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Aussies are funny people. They have the reputation for it. Do you know if they've watched The Big Les Show? I don't. I would assume they have, but... I was sitting there having the conversation, and I'm like, oh, man, you guys have... Your sense of humor is still in 2006, and I appreciate that about you.
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Careful, they might get you in trouble.
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No, it was good. It was a good time.
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Nice. Nextus says, hey, guys, good to see you again. Thank you. Echo Warrior has been a member for a month. Woo, thank you. I feel like you've been a member for longer than that. Yeah, 100%. Why does it keep doing this? I don't know. YouTube hates us. A7XM Shadows19 for 20 bucks says, Hail my brothers in Christ.
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With Easter being in a week and Sabaton releasing a new song about the Templars on the 24th. I'm so ready. I know you're ready. I say it is a great time to be a Christian. Mattis, what is your favorite faction in Bannerlord? God bless.
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Ooh, in Vanilla Bannerlord? I play as Batania. I play as Batania with a Valandian twinge.
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yeah uh recently however i've been playing the realm of thrones mod uh which is so much fun i need to get a formations mod for it though because the vanilla formations just ain't doing it but it's kind of it's there was a mod for warband called a world of ice and fire and i loved it so much realm of thrones is such a good successor It is so fleshed out, and it works with so many good mods.
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And it works with so many good mods, although it does crash when you try and accept a marriage proposal, which is a problem when you're trying to build a dynasty. It's also very fitting. Yeah. I did prevent the red wedding. You can do that. Nice. Aiden, it's hard. I would imagine so.
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Which, for those of you who may or may not have been from Southeastern PA, when that came out back when we were in high school, everybody was obsessed with that story because it was crazy, it was from this area, a lot of weird things were going on. But yeah, so supposedly we may have an in to be able to talk about this story that happened basically in our backyard in the not-too-distant future.
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I got to that point in the game, because I didn't know that was a thing you could do, so I got to that point in the game. There are a number of different things that you can stop, but that's one of them. The first time I got there, I was not properly outfitted for it, so I started a new playthrough.
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Got it. I'm assuming it also was a surprise, as the Red Wedding usually is.
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Oh, well... I knew it was coming. I just didn't know I'd be able to stop it. Yeah, they throw you into... It's incredible. In that moment in the game, they... And again, this is a sandbox RPG-like tactical combat game. It's not... It's not Assassin's Creed. It's... Your fighting is directional using your mouse. They throw you into a room where it randomly generates... Five Bolton soldiers. Okay.
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Sometimes they're light infantry with light armor. Sometimes they're in full plate. Depends on which time you get. I got through this mission six times only for Robb Stark to get himself domed with a crossbow in the last three seconds. Or stabbed. Or something. So, I started a new game. And I spent the entire new game building my character for the sole purpose of stopping the Red Wedding.
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I get there. I died six times. Like, not me, actually. I didn't die once. Rob, however, just keeps getting himself got. So finally, I'm like, I changed up my whole strategy. I usually play with a sword and a shield and then usually a bow and arrow or throwing axes or something.
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I got my smithing skill up, made myself one hell of a halberd, like a short halberd, basically like an axe with a halberd head, full plate armor, head to toe, and a crossbow. And I just started laying into people. I cut them up, Aiden. I was merciless.
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I love that you essentially created yourself your own prophecy. What? You created a scenario in which you developed a character specifically to fulfill one event.
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Oh, yeah. No, I was like, I'm not letting this happen. Now, however, I'm really curious what's going to happen because that's not how the book went. Yeah. And Stannis does his little thingy up at the wall, so I don't know if he's going to do that. Also, Stannis is getting his shit pushed in.
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Like, in my playthrough, the Reach and the Stormlands, or the Reach and the Baratheons, not the real Baratheons, but Joffrey, have just been... First of all, they have utterly decimated the Riverlands.
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Wait, at what point, at the start of the game with this mod, where does it start you?
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Right before Ned gets got. Can you stop that? No. That's day six. Got it. You can't stop that one. You also can't stop Renly getting got. The first thing I've been able to stop was Rob. What about can you stop King Baratheon from dying? Well, you actually... So, well, no, you can't stop Rob. Or, yeah, Robert. Robert, yeah. No, he's done. Like, from the start of the game, he's dead. Got it.
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Also, by the way, it just occurred to me because we were talking about this, that Marguerite Chioda 22 year old, uh, last seen walking home from a dance on March 3rd, 1954. Right over there.
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What you can do, actually, is you can go down to the Crownlands, you can hunt down Joffrey's party, you can then capture him, and then you can execute him.
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Well, that's certainly cutting the head off the snake.
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I've been considering doing that. It's just the problem is one time I did do a playthrough and I did an oopsie where one thing you can do is you can when you capture a lord or a lady, you can take all of their stuff. And I got I got you greet. And I was like, oh, she's got a really cool bow. I want that bow. Give me the bow. It dropped my relationship with her clan to negative 100. That tracks.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
And then I got myself into a bit of a scuffle with Tormund. And then Tormund executed me and my game was over because I didn't have kids. Or a brother. Yeah. So the first thing I did in my new playthroughs was I found Benjen Stark. And I made him a sworn brother so that he's part of my clan. So that if I die, I get to be Benjen.
The Lore Lads
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Just another thing I do. I can't redirect people to the streams anymore, so my stream viewership has dropped by 90%.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
Yeah, guys, what I sacrificed for the premieres was my career as a video game streamer.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
Yeah, my girlfriend and I sometimes play Pirates of the... Not Pirates of the Caribbean. Basically, we play Assassin's Creed Black Flag, so it's pirates. And then sometimes I play a train game, because, you know...
The Lore Lads
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that me yep the moistologist gave us 20 bucks what a name echo warrior gave us 20 bucks and said mattis have you how much to hang on this is all right give me a second here mattis how much to have you stacuyi and roman helmet guy watch the eagle with channing tatum and talk about how historically accurate it is all jokes aside finding out what happened to that legion is my non-stop rabbit hole i
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
would love to do a video on that, but every time I do a video about history, YouTube says, no, you silly true crime boy. You can't do anything that's not true crime. So that's my problem that I'm having. As for that, Stephen and I can definitely do that as a Patreon thing, probably for History on Hinge. I don't know about getting Roman Helmiguy down here. Maybe.
The Lore Lads
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Yeah. Like literally our backyard.
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I don't know what his schedule looks like.
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Yep, fair enough. Nexus gave us $10 to say, don't worry, boys, I'll walk into the woods to give your content.
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Thank you. It will be weird. Thank you. You are doing us a great service. You will be remembered. Rest in fame? Rest in pieces, probably.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
Um, so there, there's a number of things we can probably cover. Uh, like there's also, there's some, there's one that's actually called the mainline murders.
The Lore Lads
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Put yourself in harm's way for any reason. Yeah, to be clear, don't actually do that. Just in case it wasn't, you know, common.
The Lore Lads
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Yeah. Gomb for five bucks, 501 specifically. Love it. Says, if I make it down the PA for Blobfest, can I fight Thornbussy to the death? I promise it'll be a really cool fight that'll be told in stories forever. I don't know what size you are, but I'm assuming you're taller than me, so I'd rather not be. But we can give you the foam swords.
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Yeah, we could nerf it out.
The Lore Lads
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Honestly, let's be fair. It's nerf or nothing.
The Lore Lads
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Yeah. So, I don't know. Have you guys go out on the street with nerf revolvers?
The Lore Lads
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Yeah. I'm so down for that. High noon, ten paces.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
It's kind of like what we're going to do with the props that we might get from the next show. Except that one is a little bit more serious. Remember, we were going to figure out who really won the Civil War. Brother, your memory is not as good as it used to be. What? The Grant and Lee revolvers.
The Lore Lads
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Oh, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We went to a gun show last week. Last week? Two weeks ago.
The Lore Lads
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Two weekends ago? I think so.
The Lore Lads
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my memory is so bad well because this past weekend was f1 so i think it was the previous weekend yeah so yeah so well i guess this well yeah okay i see your point yeah anyway uh we were there and we found uh grant and lee commemorative colt 1851 navies yep Percussion revolvers, too. Yeah, percussion, like, with the cap and ball ammunition. And they came with, like, the actual bullet contraption.
The Lore Lads
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Yeah, the little thing where you melt the lead and you can squeeze it into a ball, kind of like from the Patriot.
The Lore Lads
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Patriot, yeah. So we agreed that since we can use those as decorations for the lodge, if they're there next time we go... we're going to buy them. Yes. And then not only that, but for Patreon, we're going to duel with them. Yes. To find out who really won the Civil War. I've claimed the Grant one because I've always been really interested in Grant.
The Lore Lads
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And I have claimed the Lee one because I'm racist.
The Lore Lads
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no no i i there was just two revolvers and he he called dibs on grant so i got lee uh well also you were like it's a bad rap too he was he was the thing is when we were there you were like because i'm a historian i can get away with this and it was actually a really like good tactician that gets overlooked because yeah because of the side he fought on yeah so it kind of makes a lot more sense for you to have that yeah yeah you can't
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
Oh, there's also the, um, what school district was it? This was in the seventies or the eighties, but one of the teachers and, uh, one of the administrators were involved in some like murder conspiracy and they were like attempting to run off together. There was a book about that. It was the, not the school my dad went to, but the school district he was in because he went to Catholic school.
The Lore Lads
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You can't be all rah-rah about Washington and Jefferson and then be mad at Lee for owning slaves.
The Lore Lads
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Yeah, because then you're just a hypocrite.
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Yeah. I don't agree with the side Lee fought for, just to be clear. I think, but I understand, given the historical context of at the time, most people saw themselves as Virginian or Pennsylvanian or whatever people from Maine call themselves. Those things. That's a great question. Yeah, New Yorkers, like they saw themselves as their state before being American. Mainlanders, maybe?
The Lore Lads
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Maybe, but yeah. So for him, it was like, well, Virginia is my homeland. I'm not going to fight against my homeland. Yeah.
The Lore Lads
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People were a lot more territorial back then. I mean, we still are.
The Lore Lads
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Yeah, but it was... Yeah, Lee gets a bad rap. He was an honorable man in a dishonorable time. Put it that way.
The Lore Lads
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Yep. Yeah, you can be a good man fighting for a bad cause. Like Rommel. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I am kidding. I thought you were going to say MacArthur.
The Lore Lads
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Are we supposed to disagree...
The Lore Lads
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Sorry, I'm not trying to set you up right now. That is not what's happening.
The Lore Lads
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Am I supposed to disagree with MacArthur? That reminds me of that. I'm not saying it was a good idea, but it wasn't an ineffective idea.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
Was it back to school with that clip of Rodney Dangerfield and Sam Kennison? Do you know who Sam Kennison was? No. So he was the comedian back in the 80s who had the really weird hair, was a little heavy, and just yelled.
The Lore Lads
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Oh, yeah. The go where the food is guy?
The Lore Lads
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Uh, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. So in a movie, uh, with, for Ronnie Dangerfield, I think Ronnie Dangerfield, it was called back to school. He was like going back to school for something. And like, it was a college, but Dangerfield was in his like sixties. Right. Um, and yeah,
The Lore Lads
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kennison was a professor and he was like clearly coked out of his mind and he was just like berating dangerfield he was like yeah what do you have to say whatever and dangerfield is because they were talking about the the vietnam war no the korean war and uh he like keeps pressing pressing dangerfield and he's like what do you think about it and dangerfield's like i think mccall that was right we should have bombed the hell out of him and then kennison was just like i like the way you think
The Lore Lads
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I'm going to keep an eye on you. It was just like, and then it goes back to Rodney Dangerfield. He's like, I don't know what this guy's on about, but it's certainly something or whatever. And then just like, you know, every college age person in the room is just confused. Yeah. But anyway, tangent over Jedi Drewster T for 762. That's a name.
The Lore Lads
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It is a name says, I love the part of the red thread where you said it's luring time and Lord all over the lodge. You've been waiting for that since the start of red thread.
The Lore Lads
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Did you actually say that? No. I should have. You might have. Find out if I did. Watch it. Watch the episode. Maybe I did. If you didn't say it this time, you certainly will next time. I did accuse somebody unexpected of genocide.
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Yeah, you heard me. Okay, moving on. I'm going to listen at some point.
The Lore Lads
What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
Weird. Yeah. Which is not too dissimilar from the situation with the boy in the box. Yes. The parents who allegedly... Actually, everybody in their family is dead now. The parents who adopted and then killed him, I was able to track them down. They worked for Lower Marion School District.
The Lore Lads
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If you have a car ride that's almost four hours long, it's a great thing to listen to.
The Lore Lads
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WhiteTrashPanda says, how are you enjoying the Ghetto Bible, Mattis?
The Lore Lads
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It's over there. It's the message. Yeah, give it to me. We'll open it to a random page and I'll read it.
The Lore Lads
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Yeah, I also want to read from it. Hang on. We have Psalm 3118. Oh no, not the Book of Psalms. Hang on. 14 through 18. Here we go. Are we ready? Desperate, I throw myself onto you. You are my God. Hour by hour, I place my days in your hand, safe from the hands out to get me. Warn me... Is that warn or warm? Nope, that's warn me, your servant, with a smile. Save me because you love me.
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Don't embarrass me by not showing up. I've given you plenty of notice. Embarrass the wicked. Stand them up. Leave them stupidly shaking their heads as they drift down to hell. Gag those loudmouth liars who heckle me, your follower, with jeers and catcalls. You're next. All right.
The Lore Lads
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Ah, the Book of Lamentations. God speaks both good things and hard things into being. Who do you think spoke and it happened? It's the master who gives such orders. Doesn't the high God speak everything, good things and hard things alike, into being? And why would anyone gifted with life complain when punished for sin? Let's take a good look at the way we're living and reorder our lives under God.
The Lore Lads
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Let's lift our hearts and hands at one and the same time, praying to God in heaven, we've been contrary and willful, and you haven't forgiven. Hang on. You know what we gotta do. Where is it? Where's Revelation? Oh, good lord. Where's Revelation 12? That's actually not... Not that far off. Ah, here we go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Okay. War broke out in heaven.
The Lore Lads
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Michael and his angels fought the dragon. The dragon and his angels fought back, but were no match for Michael. They were cleared out of heaven, not a sign of them left. The great dragon, ancient serpent, the one called devil and Satan, the one who led the whole earth astray, thrown out and all his angels with him, thrown down to earth.
The Lore Lads
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The real the real issue primarily is the fact that most of the cases that we look at, he is not convinced they're interesting enough to make a video about.
The Lore Lads
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Yeah, it's... Can I, can I... The good news is, it's not as bad in Revelation as I thought it would be. It could be worse. I, I, hang on, there's... Where's the... Then I looked and, oh, a door opened into heaven. The trumpet voice, the first voice in my vision, called out, ascend and enter. I'll show you what happens next.
The Lore Lads
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Yeah, and lived in Foxchase.
The Lore Lads
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I would not be shocked if that was more tied together than the people may believe.
The Lore Lads
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Oh my god. Wait, can I say real quick? I want to dive deep into the beginning. Where are you going for Genesis? Yep. Specifically... Actually, I just... You know what? We're going to go right to the very beginning.
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Oh, I know what I'm... I want one more before we move on to the next Super Chat, but I know what I want to look at. Wow.
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Wow. Wow. Wow. God spoke. Sky! In the middle of the waters, separate the water from the water. God made sky. He separated the water under sky from the water above sky. And there it was. He named sky the heavens. It was evening. It was morning. Day two. This is what I was hoping for. Also, yes, for those of you confused, it is the message.
The Lore Lads
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Yeah. I mean, do you remember what the time period was?
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It was... I think it was a little after Boy in the Box, actually.
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It is the message. Wait. Okay, you can't. Hang on. Hang on. I just love the day one.
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Okay. All right. Hang on here. Hang on here.
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If you want more of this content, you can check out Weird Bible once a month on the Weird Bible channel where we talk about things like this with Wendigoon and we infuriate him with reading him from passages of the message.
The Lore Lads
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Well, they didn't... Nobody found out they did it. There there was like there it was wild there's allegations like a satanic pedophile ring like but you know you know not not like a QAnon way like a their own daughter accused them of this way yeah I like you know satanic rituals going on in a basement.
The Lore Lads
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God made two big lights. The larger to take charge of day, the smaller to be in charge of night, and he made the stars. But here's a... This is the beginning of day five, right? God spoke, swarm ocean with fish and all sea life. Birds fly through the sky over earth. God created the huge whales, all the swarm of life in the waters, and every kind of species and species of flying birds.
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God saw that it was good. God blessed them. Prosper. Reproduce. Fill ocean. God is apparently a Neanderthal. Birds reproduce on Earth.
The Lore Lads
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This is... Oh my God. Hang on, hang on. I want to compare really quickly with KJV so people get an understanding of what the actual comparison is.
The Lore Lads
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The beginning of KJV starts as such. In the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth, and the earth was without form and void. Hang on, hang on.
The Lore Lads
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God spoke first this. God created the heavens and the earth. All you see, all you don't see. Earth was a soup of nothingness, a bottomless emptiness, an inky blackness. God's spirit brooded like a bird above the watery abyss.
The Lore Lads
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And the earth was without form and void. The darkness was upon the face of the earth, and the spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. Uh, and God said, let there be light. And there was light. And God saw the light and said that it was good. And God divided the light from the darkness.
The Lore Lads
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God spoke light and light appeared. God saw the light was good and separated light from dark.
The Lore Lads
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And God called the light day, and the darkness he called night, and the evening and the morning were the first day. It's so bad. And the other one was just... It was morning, it was... No!
The Lore Lads
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No! Genesis chapter 4 begins, Adam slept with Eve, his wife. She conceived and had Cain. She said, I've gotten a man with God's help. How dare they get rid of... He knew her. This is amazing. God said to Cain, where's Abel, your brother? He said, how should I know? Am I his babysitter? Oh, here we go. Genesis six, the big one.
The Lore Lads
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When the human race began to increase, with more and more daughters being born, the sons of God noticed that the daughters of men were beautiful. They looked them over and picked out wives for themselves. Then God said, I'm not going to breathe life into men and women endlessly. Eventually they're going to die. From now on they can expect a lifespan of 120 years.
The Lore Lads
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Eventually they were going to die from now. Okay. This was back in the days and also later when there were giants in the land, the giants came from the union of the sons of God and the daughters of men. These were the mighty men's of ancient lore. The famous ones. This is bad. This is a bad book. Like, this is an objectively bad translation of the Bible. Hang on, hang on. Let me see it.
The Lore Lads
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Wait, wait, there's one thing specifically that I need, Aiden. I need the javelins.
The Lore Lads
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Oh, I need John 24 to see if it says he outran him and how they say it.
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All right. Peter and the other disciple left immediately for the tomb. They ran neck and neck. The other disciple got to the tomb first, outrunning Peter. Stooping to look in, he saw the pieces of linen cloth lying there, but he didn't go in.
The Lore Lads
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Simon Peter arrived after him, entered the tomb, observed the linen cloth lying there, and the kerchief used to cover his head, not lying with the linen cloth, but separate, neatly folded by itself.
The Lore Lads
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The more time I spend alive and sentient on this earth, the more I realize how insane just everything is.
The Lore Lads
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Not as bad as I thought it was going to be. Not as bad as I thought it was going to be.
The Lore Lads
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All right, your last one, and then we've got to move on to something else. I need to find it, though. Is it in Samuel or Kings?
The Lore Lads
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I think it was Kings. Yeah, 1 Samuel 19.10-17. Okay. Just finding it here. 1 Samuel 19.10, you said? Yeah, that's where it starts.
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Hmm. It was night. The endings kill me. Yeah. It's incredible. Oh my gosh. Saul stormed at Mikal. How could you play tricks on me like this? You sided with my enemy, and now he's gotten away. Is this the Anakin Skywalker translation? It seems like it.
The Lore Lads
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Oh, yeah, nothing's normal. No. We're all pretending that life is a normal thing where weird stuff doesn't happen all the time.
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Like... Yeah, it's phenomenal. I don't know where my Bible...
The Lore Lads
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i ate it i put it in my tummy yum yum it had my name on it that was my favorite part oh you know what i'm actually honored all right moving on uh burton ran has been a member for 10 months thank you thank you uh moistologist says hey guys haven't been on live for a while hope you remember me mind if i add you to hell divers pardon i guess like add as a friend on hell divers Yeah, sure. Go for it.
The Lore Lads
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I haven't played it, so... KAndroid... Let me see if... Yeah, no, I didn't jump anything. All right, cool. KAndroid for $10 says, Mattis, it was so good seeing you in Red Thread. I'm really enjoying the Unhinged podcast. You guys are really just good at hosting.
The Lore Lads
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Thank you. I appreciate that. Yeah, Red Thread was a lot of fun, and History Unhinged is probably my favorite show we do.
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I will say, so I was compiling all of the rest of the episodes that we have today just because I had a little panic attack over the weekend because I couldn't find the footage of you for the last two that we did. And then I realized it was just on one of the many hard drives I still haven't transferred all the footage over from yet.
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Yeah, no, weird stuff's the baseline.
The Lore Lads
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but there is one... It'd be really funny if you just had to look at Steven while I talked.
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Yeah, unfortunately, I have nearly run out of weird stuff. I think we just need to look a little harder. Well, here's the thing. On the one hand, sometimes it's like, oh, this is really weird, and then there's no information about it.
The Lore Lads
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It would have been funny. The way the last two start... are great because we're officially it. The last one starts literally with me just doing the slate because we got to the point where, and you mentioned it in the last one, you're like, I don't know what's going on anymore. I don't know when we're starting.
The Lore Lads
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Like two episodes ago, I asked like four times if we started the show because I have no idea. But the conversation literally starts right as like me doing the slate becomes like a part of your rant three minutes later. So I was like, I'll just start with the slate because less than 10 seconds in like Gabby and Steven, because Gabby filled it for me so I could get one of our videos done that week.
The Lore Lads
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they start talking about, like they make a joke with each other and they're like, oh yeah, when we started, there was this whole thing or whatever. And it's just the show. Like we, the funny thing about us hosting and being good at hosts is this is just who we are.
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Yeah, we just set up some cameras and are being ourselves.
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Yeah. Which I'm very honored by. Yeah. But it is kind of funny that this is just, this is the kind of stuff we did in high school with no cameras on us.
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Yeah. Yeah. Turns out, if you give man camera and microphone, he make podcast.
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You could film a man for a day, or you could teach him how to film himself for life.
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Yes. Also, we need to get merch that says colonization is when white men in boat.
The Lore Lads
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Yeah. You know, for all the ideas of merch that we have, we never talk to Bunker.
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Yeah, we gotta fix that.
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Yeah. Well, we need to coordinate the drops. That's true. Which would require us to plan out what videos we're going to do more than a week in advance.
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Actually, they can do two-week turnarounds. So if you decide you're going to do a video any time before the Monday you start researching. That's true, yeah. We could coordinate with them and have it drop the day that video airs. That's a good point. We should get better about that. We should. This is also how we run our business. Anyway. Yes.
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Uh, gum says, Hey, maybe for content, just to be clear, that is not bunker. That is our old spring line. The bunker shirts hold up better.
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Yes. Yeah. The, the lines are a lot thicker. Uh, I don't know where my bunker shirts are other than the redacted.
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Mine are definitely in the wash somewhere.
The Lore Lads
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Some of them might actually still be in my truck from February.
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I am having a serious existential crisis about how as Amanda and I get closer to the ending of House, which, again, I'm not going to spoil it because I don't want to spoil it. And she watches the show. So if you haven't seen it, the show's been out for 20 years. But one of the best television show endings, I think, ever. Could not agree more.
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Now that the washing machine in the place I live is not on the same floor, I forget about its existence a lot more frequently. It's not great.
The Lore Lads
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I read through probably 40% of missing 411 Western United States today. There's not much weird in there. Like, the one thing that was weird is I finally got to Paul Fugate, and I was like, well... Covered that one. Yep.
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Yeah. Anyway, Gomb is saying, hey, maybe for content you could do your promises that I've compiled for you over the first 50 episodes. We're working on it. There's a lot of stuff like when to go milk stand. We're working on it. Yeah, we're getting there. If we can get this calendar done, that'll be a miracle.
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I think you guys tend to underestimate precisely how much time goes into each episode of this show.
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We made all of those promises when we were both doing this as a side gig.
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So like it was a lot more feasible in our minds of like, oh, if we ever went full time, like we could totally do that. The problem is, is that we now spend over a full work week on each video from each of our standpoints. And we also do two other podcasts. We keep doing other channels. Yeah. Yeah.
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Honestly, just give us more ideas for episode topics, and we'll do them.
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It is entirely our fault, but please give us some grace.
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Yeah, right now, it really is one of those situations where it's like, if we could make another $5,000 a month on Patreon, we could hire an editor and we could do all the things we keep saying we want to do. We just haven't gotten there yet.
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And the whole endeavor from the last two months of YouTube... Yeah.
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YouTube kind of grabbed us by the balls and slapped us across the face and spit in our mouths.
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You can't say that word too many times.
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So... Now we know. Now we've learned. Now we're moving on. Yep. Stealthy Knocked Owl for 762 Love It says, Hey, Spotify listener here. I'm a truck driver and love listening to this and the Friday videos while on the road.
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Lucky for you, one of the things I did this weekend was organizing all of the videos that we still have yet to put up on Spotify from the Friday videos, so they will be a lot more accessible. Uh, I just need to figure out in what order I'm going to upload them. Uh, cause it's going to take time to reedit them, export them, upload stuff like that. He's got to take out the ads. I do.
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So once I'm done all of the current history unhinged round, uh, then I'm going to just going to get like six to 10 Friday videos done and scheduled. And then I'm just going to rotate back and forth. But again, a lot of time, but we're getting there.
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uh the rude canadian uh you wouldn't happen to be a member of the rcmp would you uh for canadian 566 says therapy money to counteract whatever nonsense galm is posting today that's fair that you know i appreciate that i need the therapy money yeah i don't use it to buy therapy i use it to buy alcohol which is just as good basically the same thing same thing my therapist's name is jack daniels
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Is he certified? Does he have his doctorate?
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I did not think this far ahead with the joke.
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Fair enough. See, because my therapist is Dr. Pepper.
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What about, and you guys can give us feedback.
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I'm going to go drink the entire jar of moonshine right now, and you're going to watch me die right here on live television.
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Let's be fair. Probably wouldn't have been the most you've ever drank in a night. That's 80%.
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That jar is still two-thirds full.
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It does not taste like 80%.
The Lore Lads
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It does not. It burns like 80%, but it tastes like corn.
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I'm going to be honest. I was sort of looking for a case that would let me talk about skinwalkers.
The Lore Lads
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I bet you could power a car with that. For a period, yeah. It is basically pure corn ethanol.
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My truck you could. Our car is probably not. Probably anyway. Yes. Moving on. Do a black rose for five bucks says one of my mom's clients is the dog of the local police chief. I can't remember if it is Norristown or not. What do you mean by that? Like, like maybe for haircuts, like dog grooming. Okay. What were you thinking?
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No, that's the thing is I was like, I don't understand what that means. One of my mom's clients is the dog. I would have perceived the client to be the dog's owner.
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Fair, fair. Understandable.
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Yeah, it took me a minute. Dude, I am so tired. Yeah, it's valid. Yeah, we got to rip through this. I have not gotten a full night's sleep in a week.
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So, um, cause I got a trick that YouTube algorithm into thinking it's a true crime video.
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Griff for $10 says, what's the most unhinged conspiracy you can think of? Mine is Jakob Condensed Version, the black scientist who created white people who revolted against him and set back humanity. What?
The Lore Lads
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I've never heard of this before. It's like an Afro-centrist weird conspiracy theory.
The Lore Lads
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History is already Afro-centrist. As is.
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Yeah, so... Jakub's a great one, to be clear.
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Oh, God, I don't know if we can. I think... Probably... It was a really minor one that was part of the whole Tartarian nonsense from Mind Unused. It was that Cabbage Patch Kids... Oh, yeah! Yeah! are a reference to actual children grown in cabbage patches, and that they used to grow children. Yeah, we don't talk about that enough. The tartaria, oh my god. No, I know.
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Yes. For those of you in the audience right now, you could give immediate feedback. Thoughts on if we essentially just go through all of the missing 411 cases relatively rapidly and just show how not weird they actually are and finally kind of put the final nail in the coffin within the next year on missing 411?
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I'm still not over the fact that his rebuttal to my video was basically, I'm going to not actually address anything that was said, take things you did say out of context, and grab screenshots of you that make you look silly. It wasn't shocking at all. No, but the fact that his fans defended that was really eye-opening. That was the point at which I realized democracy was probably a mistake.
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And that's why we're a republic.
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I don't know. I'm thinking maybe the monarchists had it right. Just put some inbred dude in charge.
The Lore Lads
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It'll either go really well or really badly.
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Generally, it's going to go really badly. I don't think it's ever actually gone really well. I'm trying to think of one. This long of a pause would indicate that it's probably an accurate statement.
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Henry II of England wasn't terrible. The exception that proves the rule. Constantine... the... 11th Peleologos?
The Lore Lads
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Chief Powhatan seemed like he was chill.
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amazing uh burton moran five bucks says when i was live with you guys i mentioned a case about a man who was shot in the back of the head ruled a suicide working on the video it is wild i am excited to see that video yeah me too i'm i can't remember all the details but i am excited yes burt does good stuff guys check him out if you're if you need if you need more weird check his stuff out yeah he's got weird no it's great
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ek for five bucks says have you heard of propaganda doom masonic lodge that allegedly infiltrated italian politics and the vatican in the 80s wild since the vatican hates masons we don't approve who are you speaking for the free masons okay specifically the real ones valid oh i'm supposed to
The Lore Lads
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That would just be a really long version of the Pennsylvania cluster video, the first one. That's my thought. I was going through it, and I'm like, that's normal, that's normal. There are a few, granted. There was one out in... I think it was... I want to say Wyoming. A little bit east of... if I'm remembering correctly, it was in a place called Green River Lakes. And it was a 16-year-old girl.
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Yeah, I'm getting my Royal Arts degree tomorrow.
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I don't know what's going to happen. They haven't brought out the goat yet. I'm six rituals in. There's been no goats. I'm starting to think there might not be any.
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Are you disappointed?
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You were hoping for some weird shit?
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I mean, I would feel like maybe... You know, I don't know. I feel like there should be a goat at some point.
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Everybody's talked up the Masons so much, you're kind of a little disappointed. It's just kind of some dudes eating hoagies. So basically every other club on the planet? Yeah!
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I have yet to find anything weird. Everybody's like, oh, weird stuff happens. It's just when you get up to a higher degree. I'm getting higher. Like, can you take me higher? They're taking you higher. They are. I... So far, there are no goats, no Satanism. Mostly just Christian and Jewish stuff.
The Lore Lads
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And all the Jewish stuff is also Christian stuff, so... It's all Old Testament.
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Ah! It happens. Just means I have to scroll again. All right. Next up, once I'm able to find it, because... I'm so tired. I know, so am I. You guys are brutal.
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I appreciate you so much, but I'm so sleepy. Hang on. Yeah, it was one of those with the yellow background.
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There we go. Vampire from Pluto for five bucks says, just so you're on the red thread, great to see the Lore Lodge extended universe keeps crossing over with the Wendigoon extended universe. Yeah. It just happens. It makes sense. We're kind of in the same neighborhood, so it's bound to occur.
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White Trash Panda for five bucks says, Mattis, how much to do a stream reacting to Muhammad's Boom Boom Room? Look it up.
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Am I going to regret this? Probably, yeah. Muhammad's Boom Boom Room. It's a TV series.
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Oh, boy. Also, Gom says you can't run fast enough to escape Ohio, which is true.
The Lore Lads
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I can run pretty fast. In each episode of this show, Muhammad talks with a guest about Islam and related topics. Most often, the show ends with Muhammad blowing them up.
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That feels... like something you shouldn't react.
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This looks... like something that I... really should not have even looked up. Welcome to Muhammad's boom boom ro- this is the tagline. Welcome to Muhammad's boom boom room where all of his guests either agree with him completely or they go boom. Interesting.
The Lore Lads
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Apparently the first line of each episode is, Welcome to Muhammad's boom boom room, where all of my guests either agree with me completely or they go boom. I am your host, the Prophet Muhammad. Peace be upon me.
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Nope, it's live. So this is just... Okay. This feels like something that would have been on YouTube in 2007. Yeah. But it's from 2019.
The Lore Lads
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Also, Griff is adding that Jakob is related to Tartaria, apparently.
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Oh, good. I guess Darth Vader has been a guest.
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This has to be YouTube, right? There's no way this is a real television show.
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Like, it looks like something the whitest kids you know would do. I don't know. NC Squatch for 556 says, it was awesome seeing Mattis on Red Thread. Is there any chance of getting y'all and Stakuyi on an unsub episode together?
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Last person to see her was her twin brother. She was walking across a footbridge in this nature area. They found her clothes a little bit later, like down the same path, and she was nowhere to be seen. They never found her.
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That is entirely up to Eli and the rest of the guys. Yeah. Ask them. We're down. Just ask them in the comments if you want to see it.
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We try not to badger them. Yeah. They're doing their own thing.
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It is a YouTube show.
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Duo Black Rose for two bucks says, gotta go. Got to be wheels up at 4 a.m. Good luck. Good luck. Elena DeHaller, Werewolf Queen, for $50, says, won't be able to watch the whole stream tonight for your Mothman video. Build-A-Bear has a plush of him. Would you consider collaborating with a true crime YouTuber or lawyer? Maybe solve some mysteries in Gravity Falls, the Disney TV show.
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There was a lot there. We would definitely partner up with other YouTubers for different content. We would totally be down for that. The problem is just we would then need to schedule our content further out, which we were doing for a period of time.
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I think we need to sit down for like an hour.
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Well, it didn't help that we had a plan and then YouTube was like... What's the saying? I... men make plans and God laughs or whatever. Yeah. Something along those lines, except in this case, YouTube is God and YouTube is kind of, kind of a dick.
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We really are in a weird version of the supernatural timeline. Yeah.
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I want the men of letters bunker.
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We're basically in it.
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No, it needs to be underground.
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Do you want to go in the basement?
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yeah the rest of the show will be on OnlyFans somebody asked in the comments I think if one of us had an OnlyFans no we don't yeah on this week's video I saw that nope not that we're aware of would be kind of funny just to like have one where we just do this just start posting this show on OnlyFans yeah
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I feel like we'd have a lot of one-month subscribers.
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Eh, money. Money. But yeah, Mothman Build-A-Bear sounds fun. I don't know about TV show mysteries, just because they're really fiction.
The Lore Lads
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People wouldn't be interested. Yeah. We did have mild success with a few that were about horror movies. Yeah. Like the lore behind them, but that was limited. Yeah.
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Every response, which is a couple dozen in the last minute, has said, please do it. For proving the missing 411 cluster is not anywhere near as weird as everybody... We are going to get so much hate from a specific few people.
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A couple did really well, and then a couple did badly.
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Yeah. Also, Warner Brothers really likes to hit the copyright button.
The Lore Lads
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They do. They do. They do be slamming that copyright button.
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Even when you've done nothing to trigger the copyright button.
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Yep. Even when you've followed all of Fair Use's guidelines. Thanks, Warner Brothers.
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Miss Maury for $2 says, for Thornberry's cold open, 10 out of 10 would watch again. Thank you. I was entertained by how many people were commenting. Either, hey, good to see him on the Friday video, or who's the random guy at the start?
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Yeah, he texted me and he was like, we forgot to film a cold open. And I was like, do you want to just say this? And then I told him what to say.
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That was how it went. It was generally along the lines of what I was planning. But it was his wording and then just me saying it. At least we know it's a good way for us to do that again. Yeah. If I had a nickel for every time we forgot to do the cold open. Mattis would probably take it and add it to his collection. Yeah. That'd be funny. E.K.
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from 499 says, can you explain again how Easter is Christian, not pagan, to the smooth brains of Christus Rex? I don't know. Christus Rex means Christus King. I wasn't sure if that was a saying or he was calling someone out. Overfloweth its vessel and watereth the soul.
The Lore Lads
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Yeah. So, I mean, to just do the really quick version, Easter isn't pagan. It was never pagan. All of the arguments that Easter is pagan are basically word association based upon Internet rumors. The biggest one is Ostara or Estra or Eostre. Inspiring Philosophy has a great short on this that he just put up on YouTube and Instagram and everything.
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Basically, the version of events you get from a lot of neo-pagans and people who are just generally being weird about it is that... Easter is actually a rebranded version of the festival of Aostra or Ostara, who was a Germanic pagan fertility goddess, and that the whole thing was just a way to convert pagans to Christianity. that is complete bullshit.
The Lore Lads
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Uh, we know exactly like this much about that Germanic goddess. It comes from one paragraph in the reckoning of time by the venerable bead, who was a eighth century Anglo Saxon Saint. And all he said is, which is their name for April at the time. Um, which is now called the Paschal month, Paschal month, which Pascha is the actual term for Easter.
The Lore Lads
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We use Easter because we have, we speak a Germanic language. So they called the month, which was named for a goddess of theirs, whose festival they celebrated at the beginning of, or during that month. And that's really all it says. He doesn't say anything about what the festival was. There's nothing about bunnies or eggs or any sort of other reference to Easter as we know it.
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Yeah, but at the end of the day... I could almost do that just sitting there with the book open. Just be like... Yeah, so in this one, they said it was weird that this 74-year-old was walking on an isolated trail 50 miles from civilization, having told nobody where they went, and then they got lost. They were never found.
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It's possible this wasn't even actually a goddess because this is the only mention that we have in any historical document ever. Just this one. Says nothing about the celebration. And more importantly, Easter was being celebrated before Christianity got to Germany. It's also not based off of Ishtar.
The Lore Lads
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Wait, so in this current rendition then, so where does the actual name come from and then why the bunnies and the... And the eggs.
The Lore Lads
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The eggs, I believe, derive from a tradition associated with Lent. And originally, it was just that at the end of Lent, you would take all the eggs. I think they would basically save up the eggs that were laid during Lent, and then they would eat them at the end as part of the celebration. So the eggs themselves come from Lent. The decorated eggs come from people decorating the Lent eggs.
The Lore Lads
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I believe that comes around in the... 13th century in England. I think it's Edward I who starts that one. The bunnies are... It was originally the Easter hare bunnies. not the Easter bunny, and I can't totally remember what the reasoning was, but I think that one dates to the 1600s.
The Lore Lads
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I would not be shocked if it just has to do with the fact that bunnies come out of their burrows.
The Lore Lads
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But yeah, so like the Easter Bunny comes from the 17th century. Easter eggs come from the 13th century. And Germanic paganism died out in the 9th century. In Britain and Germany. And it died out in like the 11th century in Scandinavia. So not pagan at all. Not a single part of it. The dating is about Passover. Passover. The entire holiday, in fact, is the fulfillment of the Passover promise.
The Lore Lads
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The blood of the lamb and the blood of the lamb. None of this is controversial, nor is it even up for debate. Easter is not pagan. It was never pagan. Christmas also is not pagan. I'm tired, Aiden. I'm tired of doing this every year.
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I know. You're being a good religious communicator. I know. And a historian.
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Yeah, but anyway, the reason that Easter is when it is is because the calendar has changed. What they do know is that it was the first Sunday after the first full moon after the vernal equinox.
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Dread of the Deep for $5 says, what cryptid would you want to fight just to prove it exists? Just jumping in. We'll watch this later. I'm going to say Nessie just because I want Nessie to be real.
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I thought you were going to stop it. I want Nessie.
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No, I'm going to commit a relationship now. I can't be saying that.
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Okay. Were I single? No. Fight? I have to fight it? Yeah.
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That's the thing. Nessie's taking me down.
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It's just, you know, I'm taking you down. I'm sacrificing myself for the, the definitive proof.
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That's a hard one. I'm going to go with the Chupacabra. Cause it has the least likelihood of killing you. No, I just think it's a funny one.
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It's named means goat sucker.
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Amazing. Um, EK says communism looks goofy. I bite my thumb at it. Low key looks goofy or low, low key goofy. Sorry. I saw low key and read it as looks. Wow. Yeah. Uh, yeah.
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Am I supposed to disagree with McCarthy? Yeah. Click that. Can say a lot about McCarthy, but can you say he was wrong?
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So I was going to ignore Gom's message here, but it is a pair, specifically from him and Chimp with a Hand Grenade, because Gom said Chimp the mod looks like he knows what feet taste like, and then Chimp followed up pretty much right after that, saying Gom's feet do not taste good, so I've heard. So there's a weird tension going on between Gom and Chimp with a Hand Grenade.
The Lore Lads
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It's just like, cardiac event, mountain lion, bear, wolf, any number of things. Pretty much Murphy's Law, just at all. And that thing is like, you know, I will admit one weird one is the Maurice Dr. Metz case. I was looking at covering that one, but I'm having trouble finding enough material. Because that's one of the other things is like...
The Lore Lads
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I would like you guys to keep that tension as far away from me as possible. Wanted you to be aware of it. What, what Gomb and Chimp do in the privacy of their own bedroom is none of my business.
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Agreed. But it should be, but it should be in the privacy of their own bedroom. The cast man for $2 says, are you going to do an episode on Maura Murray?
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Yeah. Uh, I'm just kind of collecting, collecting things to see if there, I want to do it right. You know, it's kind of a lot of pressure when someone else has 150 episodes. Yeah, that's pretty much.
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Boy Trash Panda for five bucks says, look up the drug name for Vyvanse. It's the equivalent to a dyslexic trying to say dyslexic amphetamine. Have a laugh. I'm shocked I got through that in one read.
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Oh, Lizdexaphetamine.
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That's hilarious. Mm-hmm. Also, Lydia Brumpton's asking if we've ever considered doing missing persons cases outside of America and Canada. Yes, we have. But the problem is getting information.
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Yeah. First of all, there's the language barrier anywhere outside of the Anglosphere. And then there's the fact that America has so very few privacy laws about reporting. Like in America, free speech overrides privacy in a lot of cases. That is not the case in other countries.
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Yeah, a lot of the other countries are a lot more uptight about it. One of the most uptight in the nation is Florida, and that's why you always see the title. Florida Man. Yeah, that's why you always see Florida Man, because most states, you can just say the person's name.
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Yeah, it's like John Smith got to first base with an alligator. Yes. In Florida, it's like Florida Man got to first base with a reptile.
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Makes it sound a lot more mysterious.
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Yes, and easily attributable to a ethereal, single Florida man that just happens to keep doing all of these things, which is fun. The Adventures of Florida Man. That would be such a great series. Oh, yeah.
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Nick Naylor for $5 says... What a name. That is a good metal band lead singer name.
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It is a good name. You're not going to like the question, though. He says, are you brain damaged? Cops can use your statements even if they haven't read your rights. It's called spontaneous utterance or voluntary statement.
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It cannot be admissible as evidence if it is obtained entirely outside of an investigation. It has to be... It's kind of like with physical evidence, like Raymond Ryan's got hit for drugs and everything because they found it while serving another warrant and it was out in the open. Had they been looking through his drawers and they found it, it wouldn't be admissible.
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So if James had called and said, hey, I just got home. I passed my girlfriend's car on the side of the road. She wasn't in it. And I think you guys should check it out. And then they were like, well, why didn't you call us while you were there? And he said, well, I was under the influence. They can't charge him for that because they can't use the confession.
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Somehow, shockingly, for most of the Great Smokies cases, I was able to find a buttload of information. Like, I was able to find so much documentation. I don't know why. But for most of those cases, there was enough for me to make a 35 to 50 minute video. Without even talking about the history of the area. I have an idea why. Why? Because... I mean contemporary coverage. Like newspaper coverage.
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Yeah. You can't retroactively get someone for something that they did in the past but are not actively doing.
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Yeah. Now, if he had called them, they showed up and they gave him a breathalyzer, then they can get him. But him saying I it's this has actually been adjudicated in a number of ways through because of rap music.
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Really? Oh, that makes a lot of sense, yeah.
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Because they establish standards for basically what is considered a confession through things like rap music. Because if you say, I killed a man, they can't get you for that. They can't be like, we're arresting you and opening an investigation into who you killed.
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But if you say, I killed this guy on the corner of 5th and Rosemont last year over a fight over a dime bag, and I buried him out back of the old schoolhouse, then they can get you. It really depends. I think even then you have to sign your statement. And more importantly, they would not have gotten him for the DUI. Yeah. In fact, the DUI would have played into his favor.
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Because, what, he committed this complicated crime while plastered? Yeah. Probably not.
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Unlikely. AZ Cosplay for $5 says, just turned 21 on Saturday. Any drinks I should try next time I go out? AZ is short for Asriel. Congratulations. Happy belated birthday.
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What kind of time are you trying to have? Yeah, also, what are you liking so far? No, no, that's not the question. What kind of time are you trying to have? I like a good mojito. Long Island iced tea.
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Oh, yeah. Depending on where you get those, if you're trying to have a night, if you swap those with green tea shots, then you're... Be responsible, please. Be aware that we're telling you this is dangerous combo. But it is a combo that we have partaken in many a time. Long Island iced tea.
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Also, I do like a good cheap option is a club soda, pineapple, and tequila.
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I remember in college I had like four Long Island iced teas in like an hour.
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Oh yeah, I used to go to a bar in college on Wednesdays because it was dollar taco night and half off cocktails. Like mixed drinks at the bar. So I'd go in with like 20 bucks and get like Also, I knew one of the bartenders, so I would get every other drink free. So I'd be paying half for each drink.
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So I'd go in with like 20 bucks, get like four tacos and four Long Islands and have money left over to tip.
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See, that reminds me of there's a bar in New York called Rudy's, which might be the greatest bar in America, where the beer, cheapest beer you can get was a $3 draft in the middle of Manhattan. And every beer you got, you got a free hot dog. And if you got a pitcher, you got four free hot dogs. I like this place. They were good hot dogs too.
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I went in, I was like, because people were like, okay, but they're free. It's at a bar, like whatever. I'm like, I'm going here sober and I'm trying the hot dogs just to be sure.
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Really good hot dogs.
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There was a pizza place in State College that we were convinced had different recipes for daytime and nighttime.
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Oh, that makes so much sense.
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Yeah. Yeah. I wouldn't blame him. Yeah, it was called Canyon Pizza. There was not a canyon, by the way. The canyon was Beaver Canyon, which...
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sounds like a euphemism but it's not i it was called beaver canyon because there were high rises on each side of the road and it turned into a wind tunnel in the winter it was not a fun time yeah i that's how the entire of new york city was in yeah i believe it because it all the there's like if you know the geography of new york at all you've got i'm going to do this for you guys left to right we also had 13 cent beer night oh that's fun
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So you've got New Jersey's little like bluffs and then the Hudson river and then Manhattan and then the East river and then long Island and like the Atlantic ocean or whatever. So the predominant winds come from the West. So they would roll down over these Hills, like catabatic wind style over the freezing cold Hudson river. And then just right through the streets of Manhattan.
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So when it's like 20 degrees out and then it's going over cold water and It's just, yeah, it gets cold and it gets really windy in that city in the winter. But I'll tell you what, I'd much rather be there in the winter than the summer because, my God, that place smells awful in the summer. But, you know, anyway.
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um kevin mcguire for five bucks says if the flashers were already off when others went by and that's why no one called this would be uh assuming the bf was involved oh yeah yeah yeah it makes sense uh paise key for five bucks says another of my case of incompetence could look into the austin colson case he was murdered then even uh found the guy but gave up because covid no joke
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No, no, that's my point, is that so, like, a lot of these events that were going on, you think about the fact that, like, most national parks here are still relatively close to civilization, and civilization has essentially been more developed here, even though not by a huge margin, but enough of a margin where everything is a lot closer together, everything is a lot more developed than anything out west.
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looking it up yeah we're gonna write that down that's that's pretty bad vermont yes uh wes off for five dollars says re-trafficking wouldn't have been first thing in my mind 20 plus years ago if it ever came up it was a thing that happened elsewhere yeah i have a feeling a lot of nimby elements were going on with certain things back then not in my backyard ah yes yeah Yeah.
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Kristen for four 99 says an old car crashed into an abandoned building is nothing out of the ordinary here in Vermont, especially in rural areas.
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I wouldn't have called it on with the blinkers on though. And both doors open. That's the thing. If they were off by the time people went by. Yeah, but they weren't until like four 30 in the morning or maybe two 30, but like at least three or four people pass by.
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fair but again like big drug area yeah uh matthew martell for canadian 20 says you should look into cedrica provencher nine-year-old who disappeared in choice uh choice riveris quebec they found her bones a couple of years ago cops effed up so bad can't prosecute the suspect got caught with cp uh but they had to let him go how does that happen How do you get caught with that? What was the name?
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You're going to have to read that. It's Cedrica, C-E with the little thing over it, D-R-I-K-A. Oh, there we are. Okay, got it. Court Crandall for two bucks said, Watched for years, but first live tonight. Loving it. Hey, thanks. Thank you. Next is for 10 bucks says day two and three of asking for you guys to convert or covert young cover probably. Yeah.
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Cover young earth creationist dinosaur cryptids. Have you guys considered covering mysterious disappearances on cruise ships?
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I did come across one, but it looks like she was trafficked.
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Also, yeah. Young earth creationist dinosaur cryptids.
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I have no idea what to make of the latter half of that, but yes, younger creationism is on the list.
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I assume the young earth creationists with dinosaurs are just saying that they're not dinosaurs. They're just cryptids.
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That would be a new one. Usually they say that Satan put them there to confuse you.
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Hmm. Cause that makes sense.
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Oh yeah. That's what the Bible says for sure.
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I wonder if they've ever read the Bible.
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They do. They just are very selectively literal about it.
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Got it. Interesting. Thomas Ahern for $5 says, do you know if Brianna was ever declared legally dead?
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I don't believe she has been.
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Because they're still looking technically, aren't they?
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Yeah. I don't believe she's been declared legally dead. There isn't any benefit to declaring her legally dead because she was a minor. So they can keep the case open as long as she's not legally dead. Fair enough.
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Ting and Stop Guy is a new member. Gom, we're not recapping the whole show, but thanks. Walaimuna, I'm sorry if I messed up that name, for an R$20, says, if you're running out of stuff to make videos on in the U.S., look elsewhere, like the general incompetence from law enforcement that allowed Pedro Alfonso Lopez to operate for so long with impunity.
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Yeah, the issue is mainly language barrier and privacy loss.
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So, like, national parks out there, you could be 100 miles away from the nearest real town... Whereas here you're really only going to be like 10.
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Yeah, I mean, I'm amazed that you were able to do as much as you did with the language barriers of the Dyatlov Pass and Camardaban incidents.
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That was because somebody else did all the hard work of translating it for me.
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That's fair. The Dyatlov Pass website is phenomenal.
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Oh my god, it's good.
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Cat, different cat, says, please look at Jody Husentrout in Mason City, Iowa. Jody Husentrout. And that's the end of Super Chats from prior to 8 p.m.
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What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
How do you spell who's in truth? Oh, there we go. American news anchor who disappeared in the early morning hours of June 27th, 1995, soon after telling a colleague that she had overslept and was running late to work. As there were signs of a struggle outside her apartment, who is in truth is believed to have been abducted. Interesting. Interesting.
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Is there a good amount of information on her disappearance? There is a decent amount of information. I will have to take a look. Uh, what I saw there are a couple of like 10 and $20 ones. If you want to hit those just because people have given their hard earned money. Yes.
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So Ella, the Sasquatch with a shotgun for 10 bucks says, if you ever cover Florida disappearances, can you cover the disappearance of Tommy Campana? His plane went missing between mainland Florida and the keys in February of 2022. His plane went missing. I'm going to guess a malfunction or something. Hmm.
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Personally, it's one of the few that I haven't been like, eh, it could have been better. You watch it and you're like, yep, you know what? That is the best possible way you could have ended this show. Wraps up all the loose ends, makes everybody, you know, it pulls at your heartstrings. But I keep realizing more and more that I have entirely too much in common with the titular character.
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Yeah. And that's the other thing is like, there's not, There's not a ton of big national parks on this side of the country. It really is just Great Smoky Mountains.
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But yeah, we can look into stuff such as also Tyler Fridge Fleming, which wild nickname, but I dig it for 10 bucks, says during your theory about Britney, you talked about the keys being missing. The signals in that car shouldn't be able to work without them being in the ignition, which means that the BF took them. Boyfriend.
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In specifically that model of car?
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It might be. I don't know about that model. I know my... I don't know, because my truck you can turn the lights on without the keys being in the ignition.
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Yeah, that doesn't sound right to me. I mean, maybe if it's specific to the Oldsmobile 8.8.
The Lore Lads
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But my cars have always been able to run and have blinkers on and everything with the keys out.
The Lore Lads
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Yeah, keep in mind, my truck's an 89, and it doesn't even have flashers, but I know all the lights I can just pop on without the keys in the ignition.
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I don't think it had hazard lights. It was its blinker was on, like turning, turn signal.
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i'm gonna check mine and see if that's possible yeah interesting totally different model obviously but um and then there was one there yep uh matthew wortenberger for twenty dollars thank you very much says hi guys love the content i see madison the comments on insta every now and again also please take your videos in any direction you guys see fit we the loyal fan base will always watch we appreciate that unfortunately we need more than just the loyal fan base
The Lore Lads
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And even that, by comparison, everything out west is tiny.
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Once the loyal fan base gets big enough, we'll be fine.
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Yeah. We're struggling.
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We're thankful for each and every one of you, but we look forward to the opportunity for this community continuing to grow.
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If we had 250,000 people who watched everything we put out, no matter what it was, then we could do that. Unfortunately, it's closer to 100 to 150 right now, which is not quite what we need to be able to do the things we want to do. Yes.
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Yeah. Although it's dense as hell. Yeah. I did see one in the National Park Cold Case files that I'm going to take a look at as well. That I was like, ooh, Great Smokies. That might actually have coverage of it. For once. Because I've been struggling, Aiden. I have been struggling. But...
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Slowly but surely. Anyway, thank you to everybody very much for putting the time, effort, and monetary value into sending us these messages. We appreciate the questions and comments that you guys give us. But now it is time for us to retire because we are both EP by.
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Splitting headache. That's more my problem. I have had a migraine since the show started.
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Yep. But we look forward to seeing you this Friday for finally the return of the next part in the JonBenet series.
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Oh, yeah. I forgot about that entirely.
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Oh, yeah. We're doing it, ladies and gentlemen. It's happening. We're finally there again.
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What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
You're going to get some information. Yep. This is one of those ones where you're like, really? Really? Yeah. Over and over again. Repeatedly.
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It'll be a good one. It'll be a good one. But for now, thank you everybody for stopping by. We'll see you next week for probably a recap and discussion of that episode.
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Um, so yeah, I'm going to be on so much caffeine for that.
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Yeah. Yeah. I hear you. Yeah. Thanks so much. And we will see you next week. Goodbye.
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What's Happening With These Missing Women? | Podcast Episode 165
One thing I have not been struggling with is finding documentation on the Brianna Maitland and Maura Murray cases. Oh, my God. There is so much. One set of dudes has done like 150 podcast episodes on the Maura Murray case. Whoa. Yeah. Look, I have no... I am not trying to impugn their honor in any way. Just I don't understand how you...
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Wow, 150 episodes? We've barely done more than that on almost every case that we have covered.
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Yeah, that's so much. I would love to talk to those guys, honestly, or Greg Overacker. Tim and Lance were the guys with the Mara Murray case one.
The Lore Lads
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It might be worth reaching out to them before we tackle that case at some point in the future.
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That thing is, you know, when I was looking at doing the Mara Murray case, I was like, you know, first of all, I've unfortunately boxed myself into a point where I feel like if I don't have the most comprehensive video on a subject that exists, I have done something wrong. I cannot do that with Mara Murray. There is simply too much. I...
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That said, what I did find very interesting looking into that case and then looking into the Brianna Maitland case is, first of all, they are oddly similar in a lot of ways. Mm-hmm. But as I remember, if you remember, when I started looking at it, I was like, okay, I'm going to do a video that's, is there a serial killer in Vermont? Or was there a serial killer in Vermont that they didn't catch?
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And I kind of came to the conclusion pretty quickly that no, I don't think there was. These two women were from completely different places. One was from northern Vermont. One was from Massachusetts. I... What's the likelihood?
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And the linchpin for Overacker, Greg Overacker, the PI who investigated Brianna Maitland's disappearance, the linchpin for him is that Brian Rooney, and he doesn't say it was Brian Rooney, but he says he heavily implies it was Brian Rooney. I don't think there's any doubt that he's talking about Brian Rooney.
The Lore Lads
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So he implies that Brian Rooney was responsible for Mara Murray and Brianna Maitland, kind of like how David Politis implies that Bigfoot is responsible for missing for a lot.
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Yes, but his argument's a hell of a lot more realistic. But yes, same kind of like, I'm not going to say it's Bigfoot. Not saying it was aliens. But there was another woman whose name is escaping me right now, the woman he actually got caught for, who... Maybe I'm reading too much into the fact that serial killers typically have a more consistent MO.
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But Brian Rooney's situation... I struggle to see how he could have been responsible for both of them. Aside from the fact that Mara and Brianna disappeared within a month of each other, basically. I think people... And this is something that I even saw in the comments on the video. Mara definitely... Or not Mara. Brianna made some bad decisions.
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Great time in the snow today. Dude was having a vibe and a half in the snow today.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
Ladies and gentlemen, as Aiden said, of the jury, right before we went live, because that's kind of how this whole thing has felt recently, Netflix put out quite possibly the worst documentary in history. I'm still working my way through the JonBenét Ramsey case and everything that happened. I...
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I just wish it was about a different topic.
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I wanted to make history videos. Gob was like, nope. You're doing unsolved missing persons cases that involve children. I'm going to go home and hug my dogs and my girlfriend. Because I need to.
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So, yeah, I keep getting ahead of myself, though. Anyway... Uh, where was I? Yeah, so for an intruder to get in, somebody has to get into the house first. Nobody with a key seemed likely. In fact, I think down the line, everybody with a key was verifiably cleared. Well, that means somebody has to have broken in.
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Yeah, good luck with that. You could hug the turtle.
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All right, well, thanks, guys. See you next time.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
There were no signs of a break-in anywhere in the house except for a basement window that was under a grate. The grate had spider webs on it that were connected to the bricks. that were undisturbed. The window had spider webs on it that were one corner connected to another. They were undisturbed. The broken panel, there was no glass on the inside.
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So, yeah, the thing is, like, I do kind of, I do take some more risks than Netflix and other documentaries will do as a result of that. But with this one, I was just astonished because, you know, what do they find? Well, in 2000, you know, one of the things that I just saw on Newsweek was, oh, in 2008, the police cleared them. No, they didn't.
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If the panel was broken from the outside, there would have been glass inside. Do I think an intruder in the pitch blackness is going to be able to clean up all of that glass? Especially when he left his flashlight upstairs on the counter? What? Did he... He broke in, cleaned up the glass immediately with what bag? Where'd he put it? Where'd it go?
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And then he... Did he break the glass, go upstairs, commit the crime, bring the mag light down, clean up the glass, and then leave the mag light on the counter?
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There's no glass. Did he bring the glass with him?
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
Uh, no. No. I just don't want to get ahead of myself too much. I don't want to spoil too many things. But, I mean, this gets fewer views than the normal content does. So, you know, quick spoiler alert for the next 30 seconds or so. The Maglite brand heavy-duty flashlight that was found on the counter that the Ramseys were like, I don't think that's mine.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
Well, as it turns out, multiple people who knew the Ramseys, including, I believe, both of their sons, in fact, John Andrew and Burke, if I'm not mistaken, as well as the Fernies, all said that's the Ramseys' flashlight. I think John Andrew even gave it to them.
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And so here's part of the thing that's troubling. And again, this is getting ahead a little bit, but you would think, okay, well, there's one Maglite flashlight on the counter. If they own a second Maglite, if they own a Maglite flashlight, and it's not this one, it's somewhere in the house. So you would think, oh, well, we'll check the house for it.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
A couple of days in to the search, into the investigation, Pam, Patsy's sister, well, for some reason, the DA decides she should be allowed to go into the active crime scene that is the home and grab a whole bunch of stuff for Patsy for the funeral.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
Now, listed amongst those things are a number of Patsy's clothes, including some things the police actually wanted to test against fibers found on the body. There were also John's golf clubs. He needed his golf clubs. Because that makes sense. For some reason. I don't remember the details of everything on the list, but I was reading through the list and I was like, oh my God, how did this happen?
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
And what's frustrating is everyone wants to blame the police. They all want to say the police didn't do their job. But, you know, I am not typically a defender of the police. I still am, you know, pissed at the Ridley Police Department for not investigating that murder properly. But in this case, it's the D.A., And I can't imagine, aside from the Ramseys being wealthy, I really don't get it.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
I mean, and to be honest, at first, I'd said as much to you. My thinking was, oh, well, you know, maybe people were being paid off. I don't even necessarily think that's it. Especially not the cops. Like, you know, I'd said Sergeant Larry Mason and Detective Linda Arndt, they both developed amnesia down the line about specifically the morning of the events.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
as we've gotten into in this week's video without saying as much in the one that's coming out, um, aren't and Mason did some things wrong that could have potentially come down on them down the line. They could have been scapegoated. So the best defense for them was to say, I really can't remember anything about that morning, even though they had both written and filed reports.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
In 2008, DA Mary Lacey sent a letter to them after another DNA test had been done, which, again, neither exonerated nor incriminated them, and said, you know, I'm so sorry we put you through this. Meanwhile, the DA following her comes out and goes, no, she should not have done that. That's not protocol. That's not what we do. They are not exonerated. They are not cleared.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
So the best they could do is, you know, I don't remember. You're gonna have to go by my report. Uh, Linda aren't later went on TV and gave, uh, A pretty passionate interview about how she was sure John Ramsey was the culprit, but she also didn't look totally there. And according to Steve Thomas, she was like that in 1996 as well.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
Like something about this case seems like it might have broken her a bit.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
You know, from what I understand, part of the responsibility of a grand jury is to determine not only if an indictment is appropriate, but what the indictment should be for. Not because a jury decides if you're guilty of what's being charged. The grand jury is, from my understanding, part of the process of deciding what the charge is going to be.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
In this case, that charge was short of murder, but I think it was actually it was really intelligent. What it did was basically say, because in my opinion, that indictment implies the grand jury felt that whoever did it was somebody who was in the house.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
Now, it's possible that their verdict, their decision was based upon their belief that by putting JonBenet into pageants, they were exposing her to pedophiles. I don't know if that's the case because Alex Hunter refuses to release any notes from the trial. Not trial, the grand jury process.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
What I also found very suspicious was the fact that the detectives weren't told that the grand jury produced an indictment. The detectives were told there wasn't enough evidence to indict. Or actually, realistically, the grand jury was told we've decided not to indict. Or the detectives were told the grand jury decided we were not to indict.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
It was only years later that it comes out that, oh no, the grand jury 100% voted to indict, and Alex Hunter decided not to. Keep in mind, Alex Hunter is, and this is again going to come out in this Friday's video, some of his DA staff were buddy-buddy with the Ramsey family attorney, Mike Bynum.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
So I think, you know, there's all these people who want to come out and they want to say, you know, well, the focus on the Ramseys is ridiculous and it's the police's fault and they shouldn't have been focusing on the Ramseys at all, blah, blah, blah. No, they should have been. That was absolutely the right thing to do. The Ramseys were by far with nothing else known when that body was found.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
Speaking of protocol, from what I understand here, the reasoning and I'm still looking into this part because this is later down the line. I'm still like paying most of my attention to the the earlier stuff, you know, 1996 and 1997. Sorry, what were you going to say? Go ahead.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
And here, yeah, now we can bring ourselves back to where I wanted to be. When that body was found, the Ramseys were statistically, by a wide margin, the most likely perpetrators of the crime. I mean, it's like... I think the number was it is 6% when a child is murdered. 6% of the time it's by a stranger. When it's in the home, that drops to almost nothing.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
And it's 54% when a child is killed that it's the family. When it's in the home, that number rises considerably. So it was almost certain that whoever did this was somebody who knew the Ramseys very well, or who was a member of the Ramsey family. And another thing that I pointed out to you, one thing that bothers me is, you know, the night this happens, that house is a labyrinth. It is confusing.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
Multiple people who knew the house well told the police...
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
uh it's it's i you'd have to know the house well to even find that room to even know it's there because the basement stairs are like i think if i remember if i understand this correctly the basement stairs are basically right when you enter the house you go down come around and then the room she was found in is through the door to your left through yet another door into a room that is locked from the outside
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
And on top of that, in order to get to JonBenet's room from... Yeah, actually, can you pull up on Google the Ramsey family home floor plan? Probably, but real quick, the fact that that door is locked from the inside... Yeah, the fact the door is locked from the outside meant nobody could have gotten in and out from that door. Exactly.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
Because you have to place the mechanism back into place. And the mechanism was closed. So Aiden's going to try and pull up the Ramsey family home floor plan so that we can check on this. All right, there we go. The Denver Post one has all of them.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
no is it doing the thing yep but they're on reddit too i can just pull it up here no they're on reddit too no like there's a reddit one right there yeah there we go um so if you can uh yep hang on pop that up for people to see it just to really go over the uh the other side of things too because obviously somebody's got to break in And there's just not a ton of evidence of that, in my opinion.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
But the Ramsey family side did it. A lot of people will pick one member of the family and assume they did all of it. One thing they will frequently do is acknowledge, okay, yeah, the note was probably written by Patsy. That's one of the few things that I've yet to see somebody definitively provide an alternate explanation for. You know?
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
So Patsy, it seems like, probably wrote the note. Does that mean Patsy killed JonBenet? Well, Steve Thomas seems to think so. He thinks that it was an issue of JonBenet wet the bed and it was late at night. Patsy was tired. She was irritated with his behavior. I mean, I do need to point out that bedwetting is sometimes a sign of abuse as well as incest. Abuse of incest, I should say. So that...
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
Should probably be considered, and when Linda Hoffman Pugh started working there, JonBenet was wetting the bed every night for the first six months she worked there, and it had just resumed prior to her death, about a month prior. All right, so if you... Here, can I pop into your seat for a sec? Sure.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
So this is the first floor. And if you take a look, you enter through the foyer and you come into here. This is where JonBenet's body was initially placed when she was found. Yeah, when she was found, she was brought up out of the basement and placed right here. Now, the basement stairs are right under there.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
So this right here is where the stairwell to get down to JonBenet, where JonBenet was found is. In order to get to her bedroom, you have to go up these stairs. Sorry, I'm trying to... Ah, that wasn't what I meant to do, but that probably would have been nicer. Yeah, so... Sorry, trying to... This entire thing is so confusing.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
Yeah, there was an unidentified palm print on the wine cellar door, by the way. That was weird. But yeah, so... The stairs down to the basement are somewhere in this general area. It's hard to figure out exactly where. But in order to get from here to Jean Benet's room, which consider, in order to get up here, you have to come up out of the basement. So you come up out of the basement...
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
You are right here. In order to get to JonBenet's room, you have to go past here, through the kitchen, around here, up this spiral staircase. And then you have to come over here into JonBenet's room. It is not like you're just walking up the first set of stairs.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
Now, if you take this set of stairs, you wind up with Burke's room right here to the left, John Andrews' room right here, you can walk through this way, through yet another room, through yet another set of doors, down another corridor, take another left, go through another set of doors, and you're in JonBenet's bedroom.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
Getting a small child's body down that spiral staircase was not deemed to be simple. In fact, it was deemed to be very unlikely. And if you want to carry her down the other staircase, that is risking quite a bit now, isn't it? So when I look at this, I don't see it as particularly likely that an intruder who did not know the layout of the house very well was responsible for what happened. Yeah.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
And that was basically the opinion of the investigators.
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Exactly. And what problem does that present, Aiden?
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I mean, it seemed pretty clear to me that it wasn't him. Even the Netflix documentary seemed to confirm that it wasn't him.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
It felt to me like it was heavily implying it, but also for the purpose of coming back around and being like, and even this guy who there was so much evidence for, it wasn't him. So that's kind of how I felt about that one. I don't remember the specifics of the John Mark Carr part.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
Well, if I remember correctly, the reason they determined it wasn't him was the DNA. Yeah. That it didn't match him at all. If I remember correctly. Yeah, that was towards the end of the documentary. By that time, I was a little bit checked out because I was pissed off. Yeah, that's the thing. I don't even think that DNA necessarily solves the case.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
Because it's kind of a perfect setup, as we were discussing. If John Ramsey was in some way responsible, he knows his DNA isn't there. Because if it was there, he wouldn't be asking for DNA tests. He knows Patsy's DNA isn't there. And it seems likely that he somehow knows Burke's isn't.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
Yeah, because if they find... I mean, if their DNA is found on JonBenet, well, of course it was. You know, they... They lived with her. They dressed her. They fed her. Of course their DNA is on JonBenet. If it's not their DNA, well, that's the perpetrator. You need to find him. So there is no risk.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
Unless the DNA they find is in that blood, there's really no risk, you know, to the Ramseys, even if they did it. Again, I'm not sure the Ramseys did it. And oddly enough... The more I look at it, the more I do kind of understand where the really crazy conspiracy theories are coming from. Like that they were basically pimping their daughter out. Because...
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
That's the part that frustrates me the most is, I mean, people who've watched this show, you've seen me over and over and over again go, the police botched this, the police botched this, the police botched this. Like, this is all on the police. This is all on the RCMP. This is all on the FBI. It's not the same here. I mean, and Netflix almost came out of the gate with it.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
Yeah. So to just walk through that night really quick, the Ramseys get home. It is, according to them, sometime after 10. And we get the very first lie told by one of the Ramseys right here.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
Because the morning of, when police come in and they start asking questions, John and Patsy both confirm, we got home, John read to both of the kids, and then he tucked JonBenet into bed, and then we went to bed.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
Later, the story is that JonBenet was asleep the whole time, that she was taken upstairs and put into bed, that Patsy tucked her in, and that Jon went downstairs to assemble a toy with Burke. One of these two statements, one of these two versions of the story is a lie.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
there and i i think that's important you know it's maybe it's my bias from the way i conducted the sebastian rogers case but lou smith had some bias too from the way he he conducted a case earlier i think he wanted to prove that this was the same thing that it wasn't the family that it really was somebody else and he wanted to show that wasn't a fluke he could do it twice um
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
You know, maybe it really was that he did think it was somebody other than the family. But when I look at this, what I'm looking for, because this is what I'm best at, typically, I'm not a forensics analyst. I am not a DNA expert. I am not a law enforcement expert. But what I can do is read interviews. Just like Sebastian Rogers, just like that family, there are lies. It's not misremembering.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
But I can say for certain that the Netflix documentary is probably one of the most biased and poorly constructed documentary attempts I've ever seen.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
There are lies told. And this is the first of them. I'm trying to remember what the other one was. Yeah, another one. This one was potentially not a lie, you know, potentially just a contradiction.
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accidental detective aren't asks patsy you know how'd you find the note well patsy tells detective aren't oh i uh i came downstairs i found the note i checked on john benet and uh she wasn't there so i went and got john and that's how it all started well earlier that morning she had told officer french the first guy on the scene i came downstairs i checked on john benet she wasn't in a room i went down to the kitchen i found the note i ran upstairs and got john could be nothing
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
Could be she's frantic, she's traumatized, she doesn't know. Or it could be that she was making the story up and couldn't remember which order she gave it to Officer French in the first place. It's also relevant that she was wearing the same clothes she was wearing the night before. I think I actually neglected to even mention that.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
in the video, which is my bad, but she was wearing the same clothes she'd worn to the party the night before her makeup was already done. Later on, they would go on to give interviews saying that, uh, John woke up at five 30, that John was all. So John was already awake. He was in the bathroom. He was shaving. This is the interview. They tell later, uh,
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
Like, this was all on the police. They botched it. They got tunnel vision from the very beginning. You know, they didn't know what they were doing. You're right. They didn't know what they were doing because they didn't have a single homicide detective on staff because the DA preferred to settle everything through plea deals. They never actually had to investigate a homicide.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
Patsy says that she went downstairs at five 45 immediately after she woke up. So there's no, I got ready. And then I went down, at least if I'm remembering correctly, there's no, I woke up at, uh, you know, five 45. Um, I got dressed, I did my makeup and then I went downstairs. No, she says that about five 45, she went downstairs. This was just after she woke up. She finds everything.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
When the police get there, 11 minutes later, Again, because she went downstairs at 545. John was already up before that. He was shaving. She didn't seem like she had gotten ready yet. The police get there 11 minutes later. I don't know a single woman in the world who takes only 11 minutes to get ready.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
keeping in mind the fact that the note is supposedly found at 545, the police are called seven minutes later, the Fernies and the Whites are then called two minutes after that, and Officer French arrives two minutes after that.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
I cannot fathom why the very first thing you would do after calling the police, after reading a ransom note that says, if you talk to so much as a stray dog, the girl dies, which again was, if I remember correctly, lifted right from a movie.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
Yeah, I mean, the CBS documentary, I think, made a very good point about that. That this was a Hollywood ransom note. This is not a ransom note written by somebody who writes ransom notes. This is a ransom note written by somebody who has seen ransom notes in movies.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
There were multiple things that were lifted. I think one was Dirty Harry.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
But the other thing is that they go over a variety of different things. John Andrew actually said to investigators, it's like somebody watched Ransom. Yeah. He was adamant, my family is almost a perfect match for the family in that movie.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
Another thing that's brought up in the books by the investigators, Patsy had a tendency to work things from movies and books that she had watched and read into her speech and writing patterns. She was the kind of person who, like, something would show up, and it would get worked right into her personality. And here's the little nugget I haven't really harped on, but I will. Oh, I will.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
Patsy was a beauty pageant queen, right? She won Miss West Virginia. She won a number of lower-level ones. She did not end up placing in Miss America. Her talent, however, was dramatic reading. Come on. Again, I'm not saying that the Ramseys did it. I'm still not positive how I feel.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
But what I will say for certain is that the people who act like it's ridiculous to think they did are out of their damn minds. I mean, I have never seen a couple of people work so hard to look so guilty. They left town immediately. They tried to leave town that day. I mean, it defies every single norm about homicide in the book.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
I mean, they made it, they were, this was what, six days from the end of the year?
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
This family, typically, in child murders, at the very least, the mother does not want to leave the body. Like, they've got to be dragged out of that house. Patsy, dressed and ready to go. John, 1.40 p.m., calling to check to make sure that his plane's ready. That was the second time he'd called to make sure the plane was ready.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
Again, this is stuff we're going to go over on Friday in more detail, but he had called twice that day. He called Mike Archuleta twice that day to schedule that flight. The first time, he said JonBenet is missing. The second time, he said JonBenet is dead. Why did he call to schedule a flight to Atlanta, Georgia? Before the body was found, keep in mind, that means that it was before 1 p.m.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
So sometime between 10 a.m. and 1 p.m., John Ramsey called and said, hey, I need the plane ready for a flight to Georgia today. And Archuleta was prepping it on the tarmac when he called.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
And the scheduled flight wasn't to Atlanta. He had a flight scheduled, but it was to Michigan.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
And then he tells the cops, oh, I have a meeting I can't miss in Atlanta.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
So most of the murders they were dealing with in Boulder between 1991 and 1996 were obvious. It wasn't the kind of thing where you needed to go and do an intensive police investigation. JonBenet comes around, they don't really have anybody who is a trained homicide detective.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
I hadn't even really considered that one. Well, this was after the body was... That was after the body was found. But yeah, that would actually make sense if the first call is she's missing... There's no customs because you're flying within the country. There's no TSA because it's 1996. I mean, yeah.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
Yeah. That's a really good point. I'm glad you brought that up.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
Yeah. Now that said, I don't think her body was in the suitcase when Fleet White found it at 6.45 a.m. because he moved it. Wait, when Fleet White found it? Fleet White found the suitcase at 6.45 a.m.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
Yes. One other thing that I thought was really interesting, and I haven't clarified it as much as I'd like to, and it did look like it came from a tabloid, but it might have been in the CBS documentary, but I don't think it was. From what I understand, they asked Patsy to do a handwriting sample with her left hand. And the rumor is that it matched really well.
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That matched almost perfectly from what I recall.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
Yeah. Um, so, and this is, it's so frustrating. It's also circumstantial, but the way I look at it, it is far less likely in my opinion that an intruder did this than somebody well-known to the Ramsey family or in the Ramsey family. Um, And I think that had it been somebody else, they knew. I mean, here's the thing. They accused everybody they knew. And all of them got cleared. Every single one.
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And I mean, it's... Let's say it's Fleet White, one of the people they accused. Say it's Fleet White. His wife covered for him? Why? Why would your wife cover for you? I don't think if either of us committed a heinous crime, I don't think a man or a cat would go to bat for us. They might refuse to testify. That would be about it. Depends on the crime. Murdering a child?
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
Yeah, that one definitely not. Exactly. Trespassing? Tax evasion? Probably not. But like... Murdering a child. Yeah, I don't know how you could possibly stand by on that one. Also, another really interesting thing that I keep seeing either the CBS documentary pulled what Netflix did and they did not.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
And another thing that I think gets glossed over is it's not just the fact that the DA was avoidant when it came to properly prosecuting anybody. The experienced members of the force had been leaving in droves for years by this point because Chief Kobe, and this is something I go over in detail in this week's video, just had a horrible style of policing.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
They left information out or this is, you know, not as concrete as a lot of people are claiming it is. There was something about saliva. There were some of the alleles that are found in saliva. were found, not alleles, it was an enzyme or something like that, that's in saliva, but also several other bodily fluids and such, was, I guess, determined to be present on the bloodstain.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
So they argued this could be saliva, in which case it's almost positive that there was a sexual assault that night. Um, aside from what could have been a staged sexual assault, which we'll get into because I have all the details from medical examiner's report, anybody who is concerned with how I am covering this.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
And if I will just kind of take Steve Thomas and James Cole at their word, there's a reason that it says based on the work of Steve Thomas, James Kohler, and other primary sources, I used other primary, other primary sources. One of those was the medical examiner's report. I have read it in full. I have presented the relevant details in this coming Friday's video.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
So where I'm standing on it right now, I see it as being most likely that this was one of the Ramseys. I think if it was, it wasn't just one. I think the most likely course of events here is that Burke was downstairs and Eating pineapple. Pineapple and milk. I think he made himself a snack. JonBenet comes downstairs, somehow pisses off her brother, possibly takes a piece of his pineapple.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
We know that Burke was kind of antisocial. We know that his parents had books on childhood aggression. We know that there was a dictionary photograph that was open to the incest page, but that's neither here nor there. Again, going to get into all of this in the Friday videos with a lot more detail, a lot more clarity. And if I am wrong about anything, I will correct myself.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
Burke gets mad, hits her in the head with a flashlight. If I remember correctly, there is something... An interview with Burke later on where he says, as much as I used to... I would snag that flashlight and use it to go downstairs to get late night snacks. So, there's that. And again, I think I remember that being in one of the interviews. I might be mistaken. But...
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
I think that the way this goes down is Burke is downstairs eating a bowl of pineapple and milk. JonBenet comes down, pisses off her brother. Her brother hits her in the head with a maglite flashlight, realizes what he's done. Um, probably goes upstairs and gets his parents. Jon comes down, sees what's happened. Patsy comes down, sees what's happened. They're both frantic. They're both horrified.
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They don't know what to do. I think Jon realizes JonBenet is not going to wake up. Um, It was probably pretty clear at that point. I mean, from what the doctor said, she was basically brain dead after that hit. John is then faced with a decision. If he takes JonBenet to the hospital, they are going to investigate this. It is the middle of the night. The only people home were the family.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
The police will be called. There's going to be an investigation. CBS will be involved. CBS will be involved later. CBS will be involved. The Childhood Protection Unit at the hospital will be involved. And it will come back that it was Burke. Additionally, it's bad for business.
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Yeah, considering... A CPS investigation is bad for business.
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But they were a Lockheed Morton subsidiary.
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I mean, he might as well have been a social worker. And like, yeah, there's times when a social worker is probably the better answer, but not a homicide. They needed people who knew what they were doing, and realistically, they needed the FBI. If you don't have homicide detectives and there's a homicide, you can call in the FBI. You can at least request their assistance.
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cps investigation because the cps people unless they straight up say it was our son the cps people are going to look at the dad and honestly they're probably going to look at the son no matter what one he's old enough either way though they're still responsible the parents i mean because of the age of both of them involved doesn't matter at that point who actually did it in the family this is all hypothetical by the way
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Yep. So I think what you have there and a lot of people are like, you know, oh, well, John would never murder his own daughter. Well, if the alternative was bringing down a media circus that was going to paint him and his son as people who kill their child or their sister. And on top of that, he could face charges and Burke potentially could face something.
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Who knows what may be being taken away, put into a put into the system. and JonBenet is not going to wake up, probably, even if they do take her to the hospital, I think that he does the thing he can do, which, let's think about the way, and again, hypothetical, let's think about the way that JonBenet is killed. She's hit in the head, blunt force, that's first.
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It has to do with the petechial hemorrhaging in the neck from the ligature and all. I mean, the medical examiners came to the conclusion. The ME's report, I'm just going to cite the expert on this one. The ME's report says it was asphyxiation by ligature strangulation in association with craniosurgeable trauma. Either injury would have killed her. It's the strangulation that did it.
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Now, if you want to talk about, you know, Braindead, yeah, the hit with the whatever it was killed her. But what ended her life was the garrote. Now, why do you use a garrote? There's a few possible reasons.
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one of them is because if you're wearing gloves you have present you've prevented yourself from getting you know your hands on anything from fingerprints dna anything like that but another reason that you might strangle somebody with something that's not your hands is because you need something else to kill them strangulation with your hands is a very personal thing killing somebody with your bare hands
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that is deeply personal. That is something that is done out of rage. That is not something that is done out of mercy. The garrot could be considered merciful in this situation because when you look at the alternatives, there's not a ton of ways to kill somebody who's just been hit in the head when you can't let anybody know they were injured. Can't stab, can't shoot, can't slit. you can strangle.
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And here's the thing. A murderer, if the plan was to kidnap her, which again, there was a ransom note. You wouldn't write a ransom note if your plan was just to commit a murder. It doesn't make any sense. There is literally zero reason to do it. If you took the body, okay, got it. Now they think it was a kidnapping. They're looking for a kidnapper. They're not looking for a body.
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They had confirmation from the FBI, from multiple agents, that if they requested assistance, the FBI would assist. They had that. And they tried. And the DA refused. The DA said, no, you can't call the FBI in. Because the DA didn't want the FBI in there. And the thing is, the police chief is the one who has to sign off on it. Police chief was basically in the DA's pocket.
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They're not looking for a murder. That's a different thing entirely. You might get away with it for a very long time. So I think the intention was, if there was a ransom note, the intention was to kidnap her. She dies in this manner. Being hit in the head, whatever, some accident happens, she dies.
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If I'm a kidnapper, I'm not going to spend, you know, 15 minutes searching around for the proper supplies to craft a garage and then doing it and then using it and then leaving it there. First of all, who leaves that kind of murder weapon? You can burn it. You can literally burn all of the evidence away with a match. It's wood and nylon.
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Yeah, in the mother's handwriting. Yeah, exactly. Of course, you know? Which changed after this ransom note. Yep. Like, her handwriting changed. It was different. It was decidedly... It wasn't like, you know, a slow evolution, right? she stopped using manuscript A's entirely. Or maybe it might have been cursive. One of the two styles of A she stopped using completely.
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They found, I think it was five examples of it in a letter written to her mother later. That was the only time she used the wrong A. So that's extreme. And again, this comes from Steve Thomas's book. It might have been James Kohler for that one. I can't remember totally. But that's suspicious as hell to me. But what I wanted to come back to with the strangulation is,
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If somebody is non-responsive, and they've just been hitting the head really hard, you don't need to craft a garrotte. You don't need a cord. You don't need anything. You can just pinch the nose and put your hand over the mouth. She's six, Aiden. Even if she was awake, she wouldn't be able to get out of it. She would die.
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Now, if you're wearing gloves, there's no worry about getting anything on there, right? Also, if this was supposed to be a kidnapping, it makes very little sense to sexually assault her after attempting to kidnap her for financial reasons, by the way. This was not a pedophilia thing. You very rarely see a kidnapping that is both sexual and financial in nature when the victim is a child.
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You just don't see that. if this was a kidnapper and he was just trying to put this child out of her misery, just like that hand over the mouth, fingers over the nose, it's done. It's over. There's no trace of it. I don't think a father could do that. I think I, a father might be able to use a garage, but I don't think he could use his hands. I don't think that Burke is the one that strangled her.
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I think if Burke's involved, he hit her in the head with a flashlight. I also think it's very important to note that John and Patsy kept telling police that Burke doesn't know anything. Burke was asleep the whole time. Burke was in bed the entire night. They can't move away from that because the moment they do, they have to admit they don't know that Burke was asleep the whole night.
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They can't defend Burke in the hours they didn't know he was awake. And that bowl of pineapple that has Patsy's fingerprints and Burke's fingerprints, but none of JonBenet's, that, in my opinion, proves that Burke was up. Because Patsy, she's adamant. And it's one of the few times she actually seems genuine. It seems like actual confusion, not theatrics.
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When they show her that bowl of pineapple, she's like, I didn't make that. I didn't feed the kids pineapple. Like, that's impossible. I didn't do that. I would never have used a spoon that big in a bowl like that. And I think she's sincere. You know who would use a spoon that big? Somebody who doesn't care what size the spoon is, such as a child.
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And I will get through all of this in the series as it develops. I'm not going to do them consecutively just so that the audience doesn't get fatigued. And honestly, because, you know, I need a break. Because for the past two weeks, I've done nothing but research JonBenet Ramsey.
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Now, from what the housekeeper said, and from what the former nanny said, it doesn't seem like Burke and JonBenet did a ton of cleaning up after themselves. They didn't really have chores, because when you have a housekeeper... You don't typically give the kids chores.
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You know, when my family, you know, when I was younger, for my early life, we did not have help. Eventually, my stepdad started making enough money that we could hire somebody to come and clean the house. I stopped doing the things that person did. Those were taken over. Did I still do my own laundry? Yeah. Did I still clean my room? Yeah.
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Did that person start wiping windows and windowsills and doing the dishes and things like that? Yes. Can't say that's for everybody, but anecdotally, that was my experience having some help in the house. It wasn't that I still did all the same chores. I stopped doing the chores someone was being paid to do.
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And from the way the house was described, it wasn't like the Ramsey kids were frequently cleaning up after themselves. They weren't. They were not neat kids. That's just a fact. If that pineapple was not made, if that bowl of pineapple was not made by Patsy or John, it was made by Burke.
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And if it was made by Burke and pineapple was found in JonBenet's stomach, and a lot of people are like, well, it was a yellowish, light green tan substance that may be pineapple. Okay. It's the only fruit she had. Some people are like, well, she had a fruit cocktail at the White's that night. Not according to the White's. They said they didn't feed pineapple.
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They said they didn't, they were like, no, we didn't feed her any melon. They said we didn't do that. So I don't see how it would be them either. Um, no, I think that, I think that if, if this was a murder committed by one of the Ramses, I think that Burke was downstairs having a snack. JonBenet came down, did something that pissed him off. I, and then I think that, um,
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john strangled her and i think that it would have been patsy that wrote the note the one thing i cannot really explain outside of it being staging and i'm really trying to figure out who would have staged this is the uh the the assault Now, granted, it was not particularly deep. The furthest in that they could detect any damage was a centimeter.
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No. I mean, I find... And what frustrates me is, you know, I... as I come across more and more and, you know, I'm, I'm trying to correct some of the record on Tik TOK. Cause there's a ton of misinformation going around Tik TOK right now, based on just the documentary alone. Um, it's just so hard because anytime you try and address one thing, somebody is like, well, what about this?
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So, I mean, it's possible that it was staged, but I... I have my own theory. The other possibility is that Burke was doing that.
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Hypothetically. I do think that was the reason for the bedwetting. I don't necessarily think that... So here's what I'm hung up on. I don't think Patsy knew about the abuse.
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But if... They said that that injury probably happened very near the time of death. Which was hours after Burkheader, if he did. I don't see Burke as the one who used the garage. I also don't see Burke as the one who put her down there with a blanket with her favorite nightgown, you know, whoever staged the scene was capable of feeling love. And I don't think Burke is capable of that.
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Hypothetically, hypothetically, in my opinion, I mean, having, having watched the interviews with the kid, I mean, your sister died 15 days ago and you're laughing about it and like miming that you're playing Nintendo. I just, I can't, I've lost two cousins who were close to me in age, you know, within 10 years. I, I don't laugh about it.
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When I was here, occasionally laughing at my grandfather who died at 84 after, you know, raising seven children who at least at, you know, at the time all were, were still married to one another. Like, you know, like it was, um, like he, he raised a successful family. He died with an intact family. He was able to leave thousands of dollars to each of his kids.
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He was able to, because he was able to sell the home at a profit. He died surrounded by his children with all of their children, their spouses, their children's girlfriends, and at that point, I think spouse as well in one case. No, not yet, but fiance. All of us were in one spot down the road. That man waited until 7 p.m. on Christmas to die to make sure everybody would be in one place.
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you know, like I will sit there and I will laugh about that because that man nailed it. He made it all the way through. He had just about the best life you could possibly live. He built businesses. He was in the army. He like, I just, the guy lived the American dream, specifically the Italian American dream. Um, even owned a restaurant at one point. Uh,
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And as I said to you a few days ago, it's not any individual piece of this case that points in any one direction. It is all of the circumstantial evidence brought into a sum total that points to something. And also what I'm finding, I think a part of the reason that this case has never been solved, quote unquote,
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I can laugh about that because that's a happy way to go. Death comes for all of us at some point. We can only hope that's how it happens. We can only hope that is how it finds us. Personally, being a Christian as I am, I believe he was already up there probably several days before he died.
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I think he was already up there just going, wait, hold on, not yet, okay now, so that we would not be sad on Christmas. The fact that he died right after dinner. I swear to God, man. That dude knew. He was up there waiting. He was like, I'm going to let him get through dinner and I'm going to let him find out right before dessert.
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When everybody's together so that they can all hug it out and then they can, you know, eat their feelings with some sweets. There was a lot of crying that night. There was also a lot of laughing. When I think about the way that my cousin Dominic died or the way my cousin Ross died, not even a sliver of happiness. Both of those young men died far too young for very tragic reasons.
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I mean, I can't comprehend finding anything about it funny. At all. I still get sad when I think about it. I mean, I found out Dom was dead at my college orientation. The whole rest of the night, I was miserable. I was a wreck. I had to hide it.
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Thank God I actually was at orientation because I was able to go up there and put it away from my mind for a little bit and hang out with all these other college students. And still, I was like, damn. It was shock, you know? But two weeks later, I wasn't giggling. I wasn't laughing. It was at his funeral, you know? My cousin Ross, when he passed, it wasn't funny.
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There was no, you know, ha ha, remember when? There was a little bit at the funeral. Like, you know, oh man, I really miss when he used to, like that kind of thing. If Ainsley died... If it was a murder, I wouldn't be hopping on a plane to Michigan. The police would have to be restraining me.
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And from, from all accounts, the picture they presented in that Netflix documentary of JonBenet and Burke's relationship was just an utter lie. I mean, everybody I have come across describing the way those two children interacted has described it as neutral at best and antagonistic at worst.
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is the fact that most of the evidence seems to be what wasn't found, who wasn't there, who didn't say what. I mean, so far, the first 48 hours thing is the one that's coming out this week. The night at the actual first six hours is that first video.
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I mean, the former nanny, this is something we get into on Friday, the former nanny said that JonBenet used to break Burke's Legos. Like, it had to be told not to. Like, it was a problem. Burke had at one point hit JonBenet in the face with a, I guess, like a wiffle ball version of a golf club.
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Oh, yeah. She went to the pediatrician 33 times in three years. Was there ever a reason? Oh, by the way, it was not considered necessary for the Ramseys to... Like, the DA did not press for the Ramseys to be subpoenaed for Burke and Jaminé's medical records.
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Which, in my opinion, when somebody visits the hospital 33 times in three years and then is murdered inside of her home... I think those medical records might be relevant... They might shed some light on some details.
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So, you know, it's hard to say much more at this point with where we are in the research. I'm going to keep going through it. The one thing I will say is I feel like the DNA is almost a red herring at this point.
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So that's the thing is if it was saliva found on one of those blood spots, that's hard to get around. At the same time, I'm not positive it was. Because I'm seeing conflicting information on it. I also don't think it's out of the question that somebody could have been paid off. So, that angle also has to be considered. That, you know, there might have been some dishonesty here.
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I honestly think it's possible that John Mark Carr was paid to take the fall, basically. Um... He ended up, he's not in prison. He's living a very covert life somewhere.
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He was in Thailand for a reason, you know? So, I mean, the fact that he was calling this journalist, basically confessing, it all seems too perfect, you know? I just don't like it. I also got to look into Gary Oliva. But part of the process for this series is going to be going through. And, you know, I don't like those ideas that it was those guys. I'm still going to look at the evidence.
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But what I wanted to kind of touch on with this one, aside from going into some of the problems with the Netflix documentary, because I haven't had time to really go through it and annotate,
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Yeah. At some point he offered, he basically apparently offered to take the fall for it. So long as he could make sure he was fed. Because I mean, the way they describe him is they're like, you know, Oh, he was like a vagrant and he was, he was homeless. He was a homeless guy. Like all the Netflix bullshit, you know, sensitivity language hides the fact of the matter. He was homeless.
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He was unemployed. He was hungry. Yeah. This is where that kind of sensitivity and that kind of language actually causes problems. I get it. You don't want to define somebody by their circumstances, but in this case, it's very relevant information that he was homeless. Vagrant does not necessarily imply that you are dirt broke. You can be a vagrant who has money. That's possible.
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He was a broke homeless guy. who offered to take the fall for three square meals a day. And that's all he was, as far as I am aware. I mean, and here's the other thing. They talk about, you know, oh, well, he sent these letters to his friend, admitting he did it. And he had called his friend, admitting he did it. Where are the letters?
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If the police did not receive those letters, well, that's not evidence. If the police did receive the letters and they didn't convict the guy, then the letters probably didn't seem that legit. I would like to see the letters. Personally, again, this is stuff that I haven't gotten into because I'm still in the 90s. I am still in 1998, 1997 even.
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I mean, I want to go over that night because one of the first things that they said in the Netflix documentary, and this was how I knew that the Netflix documentary wasn't going to be hard-hitting, that it wasn't going to be trying... Also, they advertised it saying there was new groundbreaking evidence, which in my opinion is just their way of being able to ask for another DNA test.
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um i'm gonna look into oliva i'm gonna look into uh john mark carr and look into any of the other big name suspects they came up with but right now i'm gonna be very surprised if anybody seems good for this except for the ramsays so i guess we'll see how things go but if you want to go to super chats i think it's about time for that yep probably past
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Just want to be respectful. If it's a little silly, we will read it to each other. We will see it and we will be grateful, but we don't want to take away from the gravity of the conversation.
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is the kind of thing that you'd have to be me to figure out. And I don't mean like I'm the only one. I mean, if you're a documentary writer, you're just, that's not your job.
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I mean, there not being any glass shards is big. There being no fingerprints on the ransom note is big. There being none of JonBenet's fingerprints on the pineapple bowl is big. There being no unidentified fingerprints on the pineapple bowl is big. The handwriting being assessed to... basically either not exclude Patsy or incriminate Patsy is big.
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I can think of very, the only thing I can think about with the intruder theory that really points to an intruder is the DNA. Basically everything else suggests it was somebody who was already in the home. So I don't, I don't know. Apparently our sound was cutting out for a bit about 39 minutes ago.
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I have seen the claims, but... I have not looked into the possibility yet. It seems pretty far-fetched to me. I will look into it. I plan to look into it. Here's the thing. If it was something like that, why did it happen in the home? It doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Yep. I would think that if it was going to be something along those lines, it would have happened elsewhere.
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And what's really funny is that John... There was a Newsweek article quoting it. John said that he wants the DNA tested like a reverse DNA test to see if anybody with that DNA profile was living in Boulder at the time. I don't know what he means by that.
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Also, Patsy's reaction when she was told that there was evidence JonBenet had been assaulted was so visceral. I genuinely don't think she was aware. And I feel like it would be very hard for her to not be aware of that if that was what was going on. You know? So I will look into it. I'm not pretending it's impossible. But so far, I don't have any reason to believe that is what happened.
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At that point, you're getting into Occam's Razor territory where it's, okay, so somebody managed to copy a key. When, where, how? Like, I mean, is it impossible? No. Are the keys that you typically see... Yes. I mean, if it were going to be somebody who did that, I can't see... I just can't see it happening. Because that entails you somehow know who has a key to the Ramsey home already.
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You managed to get that key without anybody finding out. You managed to copy that key without anybody finding out. There's a lot of steps here, and I just don't see how it happens. Who knew? The one thing I can maybe see here is that... The one angle I could see is that someone mentioned... this stuff basically sold the information and the key.
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So, I mean, one argument you could put forward is that Merv, when Linda wasn't aware, took the key, had it copied, and then sold it, he could have known about John's bonus because Linda might have mentioned it.
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that could be the origin of the $118,000 claim he basically could have sold somebody the key and said hey you know break in ask for $118,000 I know they have it liquid all that but it's a pretty sophisticated crime at that point for a guy who was drunk for his interview which happened at like 2 in the afternoon on a weekday yeah
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Granted, it was Christmas, but, like, this is where them not seeming like sophisticated criminals comes in. The profile doesn't fit, you know?
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The only thing I can think of is that he's thinking about the boy in the box case, which is funny to me because in the boy in the box case, the parents killed him. So, you know, there might be a reason he was paying attention to that one. I'm not saying he did it. I'm just, when you look at the different theories, and I'll go through what those are in a second, but you can't do a reverse DNA test.
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Although the racial profile here is white male because they have that from the DNA.
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I forgot to ask was whether or not the DNA had any indications of... That was basically, from what I understand, that is basically the only thing that's not in contest about the DNA is that one of the samples was from a white male.
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I would have been surprised if it wasn't a white male, considering the population of Boulder in 1996.
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What kind of pageant queen upper class rich lady throws on the same clothes she had before for a flight? Patsy had multiple closets full of clothes and a full face of makeup.
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And according to her, she found the whole note thing happened as soon as she woke up. She woke up, went downstairs, the note was there. She, from what I remember, did not at any point tell police, oh, I woke up, got ready, and then went downstairs.
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Also, it doesn't really make a ton of sense to me, to be honest. If she got up, who gets up at 545 when you have to be at the airport at 530 or 630?
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John, she, she said that she woke up at five 45. Now the flight was at like six 15 or six 30. One of the two. I can't remember which that they were supposed to be getting on the plane. Yeah. It was a private flight. So it's not like you're, you know, the flight time is the time it leaves like adamantly, you know, 100% always. Uh, but the kids weren't awake yet.
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Yeah. And another thing that I, I now need to look for, is if their suitcases were packed. Because in the video, in the crime scene video, I don't recall seeing a suitcase in JonBenet's room. But that would be... Yeah, like, and that doesn't make any sense. They have to have had their bags packed. Or maybe they were planning to just wear clothes they already had there?
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That's the only thing I can really think of is that they already had clothes at their cottage in Michigan and weren't bringing bags.
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I think it was just for like a second Christmas kind of thing. So probably only a few days. So that was probably the plan was that they weren't going to bring clothes. They were just going to wear the clothes they already had up there, which probably would have been winter clothes anyway. Yeah. Cottage in Michigan. Yeah. So I guess that would make sense.
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But no, I mean, I find it very hard to believe that they were planning to
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get to the airport in five minutes i don't think patsy woke up at 5 45 no i also agree but have you by chance mapped out the distance yet between their home and the airport they were supposed to so that's things i haven't triangulated which airport they were going to i don't think it would have been the denver airport i would guess it was a smaller airfield near boulder
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I would think if it was somebody in the home, it was everybody in the home. Yeah. It's kind of where I came out on it.
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You can't test DNA against people who haven't submitted it. So, yeah, you can run the DNA again, and you can check it against... I can't remember the exact agency, but the same agency that detected Sebastian. That's another kid whose parents probably killed him. Zarelli. Yeah, Zarelli. Joseph Augustus Zarelli. What they did was...
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whether the Ramsey's intended to contaminate the crime scene or not, they repeatedly contaminated the crime scene and they did it like in aggressive ways that would not allow the police time to say, Hey, no, don't do that. Um, also it's about 12 minutes today from, uh, the Ramsey's home to Boulder municipal airport.
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Which means that if she woke up at 545, she essentially had 20 minutes to get herself and the kids ready. Apparently the plan was to have the kids fly in their pajamas so they could sleep on the plane.
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And I think that that's an important point because if they, if it's weird to lie about what time you woke up. So I, I kind of feel like in this situation, the, the timing she gave was a necessity because if she was like, you know, if she's calling it five 52 and they're like, well, when did you find the body? And she's like, ah, three.
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They're going to be like, why did you wait three hours to call us? Yeah. Also, another thing that I think is relevant is that ransom note. Very directly says, do not call the cops. And John says that he read the ransom note and then told Patsy to call the cops. John had one hundred and eighteen thousand dollars. There was no reason to commit to that risk. You know?
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Unless... Like, what, they have surveillance in the home? Don't call the police. Call the non-emergency number. Call the, you know, call your lawyer.
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Also, one thing that struck me was the beheaded thing.
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I've never seen an example of a ransom note that says that the person will be beheaded unless it came from, like, ISIS.
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Yeah, so... Why be that specific, you know? And that was the thing the FBI people noticed. And one of the other things I saw is people were like, well, you know, why didn't they get the FBI involved sooner? The FBI was there. The FBI was like, look at the parents. That's why the FBI wasn't called, because the DA knew the FBI was going to look at the parents.
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They had Joseph Augustus Zarelli's DNA profile in this international database. And yeah, the killer for this case should absolutely be sent into that, should be sent into whatever databases there are, international, national, all of them. The DNA should be submitted. The problem is most of the DNA is incomplete. most of the samples.
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The chief knew the FBI was going to look at the parents. The problem that they had was that the police kept looking at the parents. So the DA did not want the parents to be responsible. The FBI was of the opinion the parents were probably responsible. And another thing they're like, you know, why was the FBI involved in this and this and this?
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Throughout the course of the case, it was because the Ramsey attorneys kept insisting that they be allowed to be present for things that attorneys usually aren't allowed to be present for. Testing, for example. Because they were like, yeah, what the Ramsey attorneys are going to do, this was the opinion of the detectives. All of what I've just said is the opinion of the detectives.
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It's their stuff that they said. what they said the Ramsey attorneys would do was take advantage of the jury's lack of familiarity with the terminology, with the procedures, with all of that, and then they would find things that happened during the procedure that could sound like they would make the results unreliable. And they would present those things to the jury.
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And the jury, not knowing better, and the prosecution being dogshit, because it was... it would never get there. And one thing you see over and over and over again is, you know, you need to come to us with evidence beyond a reasonable doubt. You need to come to us with evidence beyond a reasonable doubt. But the prosecutor wasn't helping.
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He wasn't saying... Like, at one point, he finally goes, all right, you know, in order to... In order for me to even bring this before a grand jury, I need you to present me with proof that Patsy wrote the note, and I think that the other thing was... God, it was like fingerprints or something like that. There was another key piece of evidence. And the police got both of it.
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And finally, they brought it to the grand jury. And then the grand jury voted to indict. I genuinely think Alex Hunter did not press charges solely because he knew he would fail on his own stuff. I mean, if you have everybody, keep in mind, there were other DAs there when all of this was presented. According to Thomas, they were all kind of like, yeah, it seems like it was probably the Ramseys.
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The FBI was like, yeah, it's probably the Ramseys. Every one of the detectives, except for Lou Smit, who, by the way, was not a detective for the Boulder Police Department. He was a private investigator, not a private. He was a sheriff's deputy or something like that. He was a sheriff, sheriff something. He was paid to come in by the Boulder D.A. He wasn't part of the Boulder Police Department.
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he was on the payroll of the guy telling the Boulder Police Department, no, I won't get you a warrant for their telephone records. No, I won't get you a warrant for their credit card purchases.
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I mean, if they'd had a warrant for the credit card purchases, then they would have actually known that Patsy Ramsey purchased precisely what Patsy Ramsey purchased at McGuckin's on a certain date for $2.29. I think it was December 3rd, 1996.
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Which, by the way, is the same price point for the exact nylon cord that was found in the home. They went and bought it from the same McGuckins. They found it. And had the DA not stood in the way of that, they would have had the security footage.
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There is, from what I understand, from what I'm getting swamped with on Reddit right now, there is apparently one strong sample that doesn't match any of the Ramseys, that doesn't match any of the Ramseys' friends, that doesn't match basically anybody who was tested.
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I think it is. I mean, the detectives said as much. They were like, this borders on obstruction of justice. You know, conspiracy brain, something weird was going on in Boulder. And this guy was at the center of it. But he seems like he was such a moron that I cannot imagine him actually being the mastermind behind anything.
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Great politician. Yeah. He knew how to... Because here's the thing. When somebody's convicted of something, it makes the news. Plea Deal doesn't. So as far as the news was concerned, there's no crime in Boulder. His entire tenure... There's such low crime in Boulder because nobody's ever convicted. Nobody ever goes to trial. I think he just didn't want a high-profile trial on his hands.
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Granted, there were some examples in Thomas' book of what he referred to as... He didn't refer to it as malicious, but it was malicious. But it was much smaller stuff. Like, he had an informant who worked for the Globe, the tabloid that kept publishing all of the leaks. According to Steve Thomas, this was his informant. the informant told him Alex Hunter was the one leaking all the information.
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It was the DA's office. Now, he gets a tape of this, and he, basically, he's told to, from what I remember from the book, Chief Kobe is like, wait, so you're telling me that your informant is getting all of his info from Alex Hunter. It might have been Commander Eller that, yeah, I think it was Eller that authorized this.
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So Commander John Eller, you know, if I'm remembering this correctly, goes to Steve Thomas and says, hey, you know, I hate to have you burn an informant, but we need you to burn an informant. We need you to record him telling you these things. And when he does, we will bring it to the chief. And there will be nothing else to say. The D.A. is leaking everything.
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According to Thomas, he got that recording. He goes in. It's presented to Kobe. Kobe has them destroy the only existing copy and takes the original for himself and says that he's going to hold on to it and he needs to speak with Alex. Now, obviously, because if this story is true, the only actual evidence was destroyed and Kobe has the only existing copy.
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And it was found on the waistband and lower on the long johns, and I guess also matches DNA taken from one of the bloodstains that they have decided was saliva? So from what I understand, that's the argument. I've been reading through James Kohler's book, and if I'm remembering correctly, he said it wasn't saliva. And that this also wasn't really a great sample.
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From what I understand, Jeff Shapiro never came out and denied this, even after the book was published. I don't think Elric ever came out and denied it either. So, that's significant. Seems to me that there is an argument to be made that the DA was basically...
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profiting off of it because what it seems like he did was he gave the tabloids information in exchange for the tabloids running interference for him.
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And I mean, honestly, one of the most obvious points here is the Ramsey attorneys had connections at the DA's office. Some of them had worked there. Come on. Come on. What's really disappointing is the guy that wrote Mindhunters was a consultant on this case and believes that it, I mean, he came to the conclusion it was an intruder.
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Yeah. Granted, he did not have all of the evidence, and he was basically gone midway through 1997. So he wasn't actually there for a lot of it, but I just... Come on, dude. There is so little evidence. Profile this intruder for me. John Douglas, profile this intruder. Go ahead. Who is this person? Somebody who knows the Ramsey home well enough to navigate it in the dark?
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Knows the Ramsey home well enough to break in through a window that was already broken earlier?
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Did I mention that John lied about how many times he was in the basement that morning?
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Oh, yeah, he was in there before 10 a.m. and he revealed that in an interview with Steve Thomas years later or months later. Haven't gotten to that part yet. So a little sneak peek for the live viewers. John Ramsey was in that basement more times that morning than he said. And according to him, when he saw the window, it was open. Isn't that interesting?
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Because you know what John didn't know at that time? What's that? That Fleet White had seen the window earlier and that it was closed. Fleet White goes down at 6.45 a.m. That window is closed and unlatched. It is broken. There is no glass. John Ramsey goes in there sometime after that and sometime before 10 a.m. according to him. Again, this is an interview he did with Steve Thomas.
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I think in April of 1997. Well, before 10 a.m., he went down there, and he saw the window was open and unlatched. Interesting. Because what does that imply, Aiden?
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No, Fleet said very clearly that he left the window closed and unlatched. See, that was a detail you didn't give right there. Yeah, he found the window open and closed and unlatched. John Ramsey supposedly, sometime before 10 a.m., found it open and unlatched. What does that imply, Aiden, if it wasn't Fleet and it wasn't John?
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Or the intruder was in the home the whole time and they somehow missed that. Keep in mind, Fleet White opened the door to the wine cellar. Nobody jumped out at him. Nobody hit him. Nobody tried to hide where he was. somebody just sat there in the wine cellar with the body the whole time.
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So I'm seeing conflicting information now. I'm seeing one side that's saying, yeah, it was a strong profile and it didn't match the Ramsey's. And that was 2008. And then Kohler in his book, which I think was 2012 or 2013, he's saying it wasn't a very strong sample.
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Oh yeah. If somebody exited the home around, you know, sometime before 10 AM, they would have been spotted. So why did John Ramsey lie? I mean, he definitely lied. I mean, he lied by omission by not saying how many times he was in the basement, from what I can tell. If Kohler and Thomas are not completely making this up, John Ramsey lied about how many times he was in the basement.
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He completely left out a major detail. There's also something in there about a chair that was in front of the door that he supposedly had to move, that it would have been basically impossible to place the chair in that position from inside the room. So if I, you know, this is one thing I came across when I first started reading.
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The story that apparently was told was John said that in order to get into the room, if I remember correctly, he had to move a metal chair. There's a picture of this chair, by the way. That chair was basically under the doorknob. In order to move the chair there, You basically have to be on that side of the door.
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And yet, in order for the intruder to have left through that window, as John suggested when he said that he moved the chair out of the way, opened the door to the train room, walked in, and saw the window open. So between 6.45 a.m. and sometime before 10 a.m., the intruder, who was still in the basement the entire time...
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Somehow managed to get back into the train room and close the door in such a way that there was a chair sitting directly under the doorknob on the outside. Climb up back through the window, not disturb any of the spider webs, not disturb any of the foliage. Gets out and then somehow sneaks past all the police.
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So that time that John did not... Oh, just really quickly for all the people who are considering the possibility it was Fleet White. Fleet White was totally cleared. Did not match anything. No fingerprints, no DNA, nothing.
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He also points out, and I think this is a major point, that there are, I think, five or six different DNA samples on that body that don't match each other.
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Strange, isn't it? A little bit. You know, again, maybe I'm just misremembering details. But if I'm not... They're weird details. So this is all stuff that's going to come up in probably the next video. The next video is going to be going through a lot of the interviews.
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Because the most likely one does not seem to be an intruder. No. And yeah, it's this kind of thing. It's like with the Ramsey did it theory, with the Ramsey's did it theory, the only thing that needs to be overcome is the DNA. With the intruder did it theory, the only thing that they have is the DNA. Okay.
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You know the meme about like it's usually used for vaccines where it's like, well, we have one study that says you're right and a stack of studies that says you're wrong. That's how I feel about these two theories. I think a lot of people get caught up in the finer details and don't really realize how the majority of the details point in one direction.
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And you've only really got to explain a few things in order to get there. The two things that stick out for me when it comes to it not being a member of the Ramsey family are the...
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words um the uh abuse to the uh no no square as you might say for youtube's sake um and the uh the dna those are the only two things that point to it not being a member of the ramsey family i'm not confident it was an intruder We'll see. I've got two more parts of this to research and write, at least.
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Yeah, that's what I understand. Now, I've only read that chapter of the book once. I've read several of the chapters of that book literally 20 times. But, you know, I think people are missing the forest for the trees in a lot of ways with this case because there's really two possibilities. Somebody in the Ramsey family did it. Somebody not in the Ramsey family did it.
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At least the Whites had at least two, Fleet Jr. and Daphne, who were similar in age to Burke and JonBenet, respectively.
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True. But from what I understand, they, they tested all the Ramsey's friends, but did they test the kids? Well, that they will be familial then. Like if you had markers, if you tested a parent and it was one of their kids, you'd have a match.
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Yeah, but again... Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's possible, and back then, I mean, you might have to retest.
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Basically be like, hey, we... Now that we have a better sample, we need to retest everybody who saw JonBenet that night. And then anybody who balks might be somebody to look at. Because if it's Fleet that balks, well, then you gotta consider it might be him or it might be Fleet Jr.
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I could see it. I think you'd need to run more tests. You'd need to retest all of those people. Because the testing they did was at the time. Lately, they've just been testing against the existing database. Also, I keep seeing people say they need to put it into CODIS, and I think they did. I don't know. I read an article that said they did that. It's not a big database.
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It's only like 1.6 million people. But who knows? What else we got? Also, really quickly, just because it's one thing that I have seen a whole bunch of times, handwriting analysis is not debunked pseudoscience. Handwriting analysis to determine somebody's personality, like psychoanalysis based off of handwriting, that is shaky. Matching handwriting samples is not shaky.
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Both of those break into a bunch of other different ones. And I think with the Ramsey family, I'll get into the issues with that in a second. But with the basically this breaks down into RDI and IDI are the terms people use. Ramsey's did it. Intruder did it. In order for an intruder to have done this, they have to have broken into the house somehow. So they either broke a window to get in.
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It's actually almost like fingerprinting. Unless somebody is deliberately trying to not write like themselves, handwriting doesn't change much. It evolves over the years, but it doesn't change aggressively. You can match people's handwriting. That's how they caught Ted Kaczynski, was they looked at the language used, and they looked at handwriting samples.
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And more importantly, when it comes to Netflix documentaries, I think the big thing here is they can't say the wrong thing. Like, they can't piss people off. Because if they do, those people will sue them. As a YouTuber... We get a little more leeway. We get a little more leeway. I get to be off the cuff a lot more.
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Because I think the memo... I think the... what is the word? The manifesto. His manifesto, if I remember, was printed, right?
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But he had handwritten stuff as well that they were able to test against. But it was a turn of phrase he used, I think, that ended up catching him. Oh, by the way, the guy who looked at the handwriting and determined it was most likely Patsy, that was the same guy who worked on the Unabomber case. It wasn't some quack,
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everybody's like oh well he wasn't in law enforcement well they consulted him on the unabomber case so and he was effective yeah i mean he was something like 152 and oh when it came to this like he was never wrong yeah and later in life he got sued for defamation or something i i don't know if it was by the ramses though i see a uh what's the there's a verified in there who's that uh one second let me scroll on the right side
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It's not every day we get a, uh, somebody in the a hundred K club.
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Exactly. I believe the consensus by the doctor from CHOP here in Philly, who was shown the autopsy evidence, was that it was 45 minutes to two hours before death. Yeah. Based on... forget exactly if it was like, it was something about tissue necrosis and, uh, the amount of bleeding or something like that. I can't remember the exact details, but I will get into that.
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I didn't cover it in this upcoming Friday's video because I'm trying to go in chronological order with those, which has been brutal. Nobody, nobody did this in chronological order. Everybody did it in vaguely chronological order. And now I've got to be like, okay, so this happened and then this happened. And then, oh, well, these two people say these things happened at different times. Um,
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Also, I will say, I've been trying to read the Ramsey side of the story. They did not make their book accessible in the modern era. I had to order it from an actual bookstore through Amazon, which, you know, thank God Amazon started off as a book-selling website. That's a thing, by the way. I...
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Our Amazon password for the longest time when I was a kid was our books, because that's what Amazon was 20 years ago. So anyway, I had to order it from an actual bookstore. It will not get here until the 6th. I ordered it last week. I have not been able to read the Ramsey side of this yet. I've only been able to read a few excerpts in which they say things that aren't true.
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broke a you know that's the only thing it could have been real really i mean unless they picked a lock but all of the doors in the house were locked you can pick a lock you can't unpick a lock yeah or they would have to actually lock it again or they had a key now who had a key we know of i think the ramsey said there were two people who had a key i think it was the housekeeper and the neighbor who watched the dog i thought also the the mother did as well
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Some of them were, but once we finish off with the actual relevant ones, let's go through the readable ones and then I'll just look disappointedly into the camera at the rest of you. And gratefully, I am gratefully disappointed.
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Oh, he was also a family friend, by the way.
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I just did all of the work myself and then would tell the teacher I did all of the work myself. So it depended on how lazy the project partners were. But yeah, if I had to do an entire project myself, I was the kind of person who would go and tell the teacher, hey, I did this entire thing myself. Because in terms of grading, it wasn't even about ratting on anybody.
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It was a project that was completed by four people. is going to be graded more harshly than a project completed by one. So I would tell my teacher, hey, I'm not trying to be a rat, but for grading purposes, I did almost all the work on this. Please go easy on me. You know, this was supposed to be done by four people. I did it myself. So that's what I recommend.
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It didn't happen that frequently. This is like three or four times across the entirety of 12 years of school. Most of my project partners were pretty good in school, in classes. As for the boy in the box thing, I would recommend watching the full video that we have. It's only, I think, 39 minutes long, something like that. It's from when our videos typically were only 20 minutes.
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So it's one of our longer ones, but it's also not one of the really long ones. Uh, what I will say kind of just to give you the short little blurb about it. Uh, back in, I want to say it was 1957, right?
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I want to say it was, it was either 1954 or 1957. I can't remember which it was, but I think it was 1957. Uh, a boy named Joseph Augustus Zarelli was, uh, unfortunately he was murdered in Philadelphia, uh, He was not named until, I think, 2020, that they finally figured out who this kid was. And then in 2021, they were able to use an international cold case DNA database.
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Basically, the people who run this database got a notification. Somebody had submitted an Ancestry or a 23andMe, something like that. And it dinged for Joseph Augusta Zarelli, for this kid. it turned out that it was his, I like, I think it was his second cousin twice removed that had done the sample.
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And the mom, yeah, sorry. That's what I'm mixing things up. So the only two people the Ramseys said had a key the night of, or the morning of, were the mother, Patsy's mother, Nedra, and I will be, I get into some of the reasons why it didn't seem very likely it was Linda Hoffman Pugh in this Friday's video.
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So they asked that guy to get his mother a test kit where they sent him a test kit and had him ask his mother to be tested. As it turned out, I think it was like her, uh, uncle, who was Joseph's father, like Augustus Sorelli, if I remember correctly. Part of the reason this is confusing is I'm pretty sure one of the uncles was Joseph and one of the uncles was Augustus. Right, yeah.
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Yeah, so when I looked at it, I was like, I don't know which uncle this would have been. I actually... I got a call from a private detective agency like the Vidoc Society. It's based out of Philadelphia. There's, I think, 84 of them. They have one detective for every year that the guy it's named after lived.
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Kind of a cool little weird thing in Philadelphia that we have is just this shadowy detective agency that helps police departments all over the world.
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Exactly. So I, anyway, I, they, they actually got a call from the detective who was assigned to that case from the, she said, uh, right church, wrong pew. I had the right family. I had the wrong dad. I think that's what she meant. So that was I will say that was that felt good. That one felt good. But yeah, the basics of it is Joseph was very young. I think he was like four years old.
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They found him in a cardboard box on the side of the road in Fox Chase, which is a neighborhood in North Philadelphia, northern Philadelphia, I should say. They were unable to identify him for years because there were no missing children reported. They could not line him up with anybody that they had in their database. Fingerprinting existed, but they didn't have any records of his prints.
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So for years, he was just this John Doe referred to as the boy in the box or Philadelphia's unnamed unnamed child, things like that. 1998 DNA analysis is becoming a thing. This is around the same time as JonBenet. So 1998, they get the idea to retest his DNA. They do. They find some markers, but it doesn't turn anything up. That's how the DNA gets into the system.
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They have this woman named Martha who comes forward and And she's referred to as Martha, Mary, a bunch of different M names. I was able to confirm I'm pretty sure it was Martha. I found the exact woman. She died in 2020. Like, I found her. It was her. I found her in a yearbook. I found her parents in the yearbook that proved that they were the people she said they were.
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And they lived in the place they said they did. And... She had her story about everything that happened. She said that the boy in the box was just basically somebody that her parents had adopted, but this was the 1950s. He was sold, so it wasn't an official adoption. He was horribly abused by the mother. Her father apparently horribly abused her. This was something they did together.
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When I say doing the boy in the box case is part of the reason I am as desensitized now as I am, I mean it. That was... You filmed it.
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Yeah. Which, you know, I'm going to be going in more depth of this because the way I'm structuring out this series is we're going to do chronological order of what was found. And then probably once we get to the grand jury indictment, after that, I will go back to the more typical Lorelage style where it's somewhat chronological, but for the most part, it's here's the evidence, let's look at it.
The Lore Lads
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If people were to hear us talk about these things the way we do to each other, they would probably think that we're monsters. But it's just because we see it so often. It's just every it's every week.
The Lore Lads
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You see where it starts to come in because and, you know, sometimes it bleeds through into the videos where I'll make a joke that people are like, are you really joking at a time like this? And I'm like, trust me, I had to. because if I, if I don't find a way to find some levity in these things, I will be horribly depressed.
The Lore Lads
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So, but yeah, so Joseph, um, it eventually comes out that he is who he is, who he is. Uh, It's a case that's never going to be solved. I mean, it could be solved, but it's never going to be prosecuted because the people that killed him are long dead. Their only child, as far as I'm aware, is also dead and didn't leave any children of her own.
The Lore Lads
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And then the Zarelli family, you know, that was part of the reason that the police...
The Lore Lads
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held off on releasing a lot of information it's actually part of the reason that you and i held off on releasing information then the philadelphia inquirer stole our entire flow or you know bar for bar word for word whatever it is um and just you know printed it and we're like philadelphia inquirer journalists with the help of internet sleuths that was us mm-hmm You know, it's okay.
The Lore Lads
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I'm fine with never getting credit for anything that we've managed to actually put more eyeballs on. It's just the fact that we're literally... I can't say for certain that the FBI put out a $50,000 reward for information leading to the recovery of Sebastian Rogers three weeks after we put out our video. I can't say that that was us. But it seems a little weird.
The Lore Lads
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Oh, yeah, I did send them all of the files I had. Sent that to them, the TBI. It's crazy. A few weeks later, they're like, you know what? Maybe this was the parents.
The Lore Lads
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Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I'm mad. I'm still mad about it. I'm always going to be mad about it. Anyway, we have more questions and I would like to sleep tonight.
The Lore Lads
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still faces most of the same problems with the intruder theory.
The Lore Lads
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Yeah. It would have had to happen weirdly fast. And also like, yeah. Cause when, when would it have happened? Um, nothing that bothers me, you know, it's not necessarily as relevant, but I, John, in one of the interviews later on says that he heard Patsy scream from downstairs and,
The Lore Lads
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Because at that point, you know, there's... If I were to do the chronology from June 1998 or whenever it was, August... No, 99, I think, was the grand jury indictment. I think 98 was the press conference that led to the grand jury indictment. So I'll probably stop there or I'll stop with the grand jury and how it turned out that, in fact, they did vote to indict.
The Lore Lads
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And it struck the Fernies as odd, about a week after all of this happened, that John could hear Patsy screaming from downstairs, but Burke couldn't. So...
The Lore Lads
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Also, a woman across the street, Mary something Stanton, M something Stanton, told police a few days after it all happened, after originally saying she didn't hear anything, she didn't know of anything because she didn't want to be involved, came forward and did tell police that she thought she heard a child scream in the middle of the night.
The Lore Lads
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Yeah. I believe she was one of the neighbors, yeah.
The Lore Lads
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Yeah. But yeah, I think what's really worth knowing is Patsy was the kind of woman who wouldn't be seen anywhere in the same outfit two days in a row. Full face of makeup, hair done. Got up 15 minutes before the police got there. Not even, 11 minutes before the police got there, according to her. Unless I am seriously misremembering, she did not mention getting ready before she went downstairs.
The Lore Lads
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I believe... They found up to six potential profiles. One of which was there were at least two two different males. One possible female. All of them unidentified. So this is part of the point that Kohler makes in his book that I want to get into regarding why the DNA doesn't necessarily support an intruder.
The Lore Lads
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If I'm remembering correctly, Kohler said that there were at least five, potentially six different partial DNA samples found on the body. So if you're going to say that DNA is relevant here, that's potentially six intruders. What? So there is going to be a follow up to this this live once I finish. I mean, there will be another live where we go through it.
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We're like, OK, so here's all the stuff that we've learned and where we give a final opinion, obviously. But right now, I mean. I'm having a really hard time. I'm having a really hard time seeing how this wasn't somebody in the family.
The Lore Lads
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I think what they voted to indict on is also very interesting. So for those who don't know, a grand jury was eventually assembled in 1999. I think it was 1999. I might just be mixing up dates in my head, but it was after the presentation to the DA by the investigative team. And the investigative team, in their opinion, this was cut and dry.
The Lore Lads
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Yeah. Yeah. So I think, you know, good point. If it were either of the parents, they would have turned on each other. That was one of the things I said to you on the phone, I think, recently. Or I might have been talking to Amanda in our living room.
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But I remember saying, you know, one thing I can't square is, you know, if one of the parents did it and the other knew, it was when I was trying to figure out, yeah, if it were Patsy or John. I was like, I just can't see how if one of the parents knew it happened, the other wouldn't rat on them. So I think the only way it makes sense is if it was Burke.
The Lore Lads
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In my opinion, if it were somebody inside the house, it would have been Burke hit her in the head, John strangled her to put her out of her misery, and Patsy wrote the note.
The Lore Lads
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Considered it. I was advised not to do it.
The Lore Lads
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Too many lawyers. Very saturated. Mostly just reading. I... it just was suggested to not be a really great thing. Um, also if you see channel member chats in there, let's definitely read those.
The Lore Lads
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Um, that's the thing is that they're going to retest the DNA. They need to retest the DNA against everyone.
The Lore Lads
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Somebody brought up the... Steve Thomas depositions and gave the full written versions of them. Somebody who I know on Reddit thinks that it was not the Ramseys. So I'm curious, like some of the stuff in here is, you know, the difference between saying somebody is arrested for the crime and saying somebody has been found guilty of a crime. You know that difference, don't you, sir? Yes.
The Lore Lads
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As far as the detectives were concerned, and this is the information they presented, it was patsy. Now, I don't think it was Patsy, personally. And again, I'll get into that. Where my head is at currently right now, I don't think it was Patsy, or at least I don't think it was just Patsy. But what I wanted to get back to you really quick was the IDI, the intruder did it theory.
The Lore Lads
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It's a big difference, isn't it? Sometimes is and sometimes isn't. You don't think there's a big difference between someone being arrested for a crime and someone being found guilty of a crime?
The Lore Lads
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By the way, I think something that needs to be mentioned here is the attorney for the Ramseys was Eldon Wood, who is the same guy that spent a year saying he had proof that the 2020 election was stolen and had none at any point. That's not a comment on the 2020 election.
The Lore Lads
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That's a comment on L. Lynn Wood and the fact that he is not a reliable person and should be considered... He should be eyed with a lot of suspicion. Anything he's involved in. Do you know the difference between someone being arrested for a crime and someone being found guilty of a crime? Do you understand that?
The Lore Lads
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Thomas said, I've often arrested people who were guilty of a crime and were subsequently convicted of a crime. And you've probably arrested a lot of people who were not guilty of a crime. Didn't you? I doubt it. You don't think that happens on a frequent basis basis that police officers or who are you talking about? Me, Mr. Wood police officers in general.
The Lore Lads
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I won't go back into your background at this moment on that, uh, that innocent people are sometimes arrested, that people are arrested for a crime and ultimately not found guilty of that crime. I don't, I don't have the statistics in front of me. I don't know, but you don't fight the idea that it happens, sir. Do you? He goes, I think he gets cut off.
The Lore Lads
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Surely you don't think anybody that's arrested is actually found guilty. I hope, uh, Wait, what? Surely you don't think anybody that is arrested is actually found guilty, I hope. So they're, at this point in the deposition, just trying to make him look stupid by asking him weird, confusing questions that can't really be answered. Yeah. Because he already said, yes, I understand the difference.
The Lore Lads
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And now they're asking him, like, his personal opinion about the cases he's worked on. And this is why, this is, I think, the problem, is a lot of the people who read this stuff don't put themselves into Steve Thomas' shoes. He's giving a deposition because he's being sued. Mm-hmm. he's going to deliberately avoid giving any answers that make it easier to sue him.
The Lore Lads
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Yeah. So they get to the end. He goes, yeah, Linwood asks, you don't fight the general concept, sir. An idea that people are arrested for crimes that ultimately they are found not guilty of committing. I want to reread that. You don't fight the general concept, sir. An idea that people are arrested for crimes that ultimately they are found not guilty of committing.
The Lore Lads
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Yeah, it's intentionally verbose. Intentionally verbose. And the response from Steve Thomas is, there is a difference between being found not guilty at trial and being innocent, Mr. Wood.
The Lore Lads
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Yeah. Hold response. And then another attorney asks, it's the difference between... Another attorney asks, it's the difference between not... It's the difference between being not found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, even where there may be probable cause to arrest. There is a difference. Isn't there, sir? He didn't provide two scenarios. Yeah.
The Lore Lads
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And then Thomas goes, I don't understand your question. And this is being presented in order to make Steve Thomas look stupid. When in reality, if you're reading this from a position of like experience with these kinds of things, or just from the position of being in the chair, he was asking confusing questions.
The Lore Lads
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In order for that to be true, somebody has to have gotten into the house first. That person either had a key or they broke in. Can't have picked a lock because you can't unpick a lock. There were four people they eventually found out had keys. Linda Hoffman Pugh, Nedra Pough. I don't know how their last name is pronounced. I just realized that. P-A-U-G-H. Pough? Yeah, I would say Pough.
The Lore Lads
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These questions are worded in a way that is lawyer speak and police officers, while they're, you know, enforcers of the law, they don't go to law school. They don't learn how to talk like a lawyer. He's doing the right thing here in basically avoiding giving a concrete answer to questions he doesn't understand.
The Lore Lads
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If you want to make that your reasoning for suspecting somebody might not be truthful, go look at the Ramseys who answered basically every question they were asked under any sworn situation with, I can't recall. I don't know. I don't remember. Like, I'm going to go through a few more of these. What was the question we were last asked?
The Lore Lads
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Essentially just... With the roles that we are assuming hypothetically... That's the one I'm struggling with. Yeah. Yeah, that's... I mean... I... The only thing I can think of is that it popped into John Ramsey's head that nobody would ever suspect a family member of doing that. It's the only thing I can really think of. Aside from that, it's kind of hard to tell. I mean...
The Lore Lads
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fact of the matter is it it could be that that was something Burke did that is possible and that it just wasn't as close to the time of death as was believed in 1996 so hang on Jeff Shapiro was your confidential informant right yes so you had during your investigation of JonBenet Ramsey's murder a confidential informant who was a tabloid supermarket tabloid reporter for the globe right yes the excerpt just ends there
The Lore Lads
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To make it look like he's, you know, like, yeah, did you bring up what Shapiro said? Apparently not. Like, since when is a cop having a criminal informant a reason to be suspicious?
The Lore Lads
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yeah take a look if you would at page 45 of your book second actually first full paragraph an acquaintance said that john bonnet was rebelling against appearing in the child beauty pageants she was being pushed into the pageants by her mother and grandmother said the witness who is that individual i believe it was judith phillips did you find judith phillips to be credible at times like what none of that sounds these are so deliberately cut off
The Lore Lads
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I mean, to this person's credit, she did post the full ones. I don't think that this person who's posting this on Reddit is trying to be disingenuous, but I do think that, once again, missing the forest for the trees. I like, yeah, because here we go. Here's another one.
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On page 270 of your book, Chief Beckner started talking about a successful title three electronic surveillance down in Florida where the police had recorded the mother saying the baby is dead and buried because you did it. And my father replied, I wish I hadn't harmed her. It was the cocaine. End quote. I consider the irony of Beckner discussing a title. This is also in quotations.
The Lore Lads
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I consider the irony of Beckner discussing a title three that worked damn well in Florida when he had been part of the scandal frightened leadership that wouldn't let us try the same tactic. End quote. Have I read that correctly? Steve Thomas says, I believe so. The question then is, that was the Ainsburg case, wasn't it, Mr. Thomas? That is the case being referred to here, yes. Right.
The Lore Lads
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You understand that charge was dismissed against the family because the transcripts of the tapes were not consistent with the representations made as the content by the police. I'm not familiar with that. You hadn't tried to study what happened to the Ainsburg case at all? No. As we sit here today, I don't know the conclusion of the Ainsburg case.
The Lore Lads
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I'm going to look up when the Ainsburg case actually concluded. worth knowing I will say just you know as you do that so like that doesn't change the fact that the title three surveillance worked
The Lore Lads
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Anything I say in this podcast, I can reasonably, in a court of law, say that was me just speaking my opinion in a show where I routinely speak my opinion. If Netflix produces a documentary and they say something that somebody doesn't like, it's a documentary. It wasn't off the cuff. This went through multiple edits. In our case, it's, you know, we're just two guys.
The Lore Lads
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It's almost Pugh, but I don't think it would be that. Probably Pough. So it's one of those two. Nedra was definitely out of town that night.
The Lore Lads
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she was she was not she was in atlanta she was not in boulder linda lived in fort lupton which is 45 minutes away uh i believe they did eventually establish an alibi for her i haven't gotten to it yet but she does not strike me as the type and her husband does not strike me as careful enough you know um
The Lore Lads
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So this... The Ainsburg case? The book came out... Steve Thomas' book came out in 2000. The Ainsburg case wasn't resolved until 2001. So it was completely irrelevant to that case? Completely irrelevant because what Steve Thomas wrote at the time was correct. The Title III electronic surveillance worked. It did get what they wanted. It was then misused in court. I mean...
The Lore Lads
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Bro, I don't hate all lawyers, but damn do I hate lawyers. Except for Morgan & Morgan, right? Yeah, except for Morgan & Morgan. Was there any test done on the duct tape that would establish the imprint of JonBenet's lip prints on that tape? The answer is, was there any test that would establish that?
The Lore Lads
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Did you, all to your knowledge, did the Boulder Police Department conduct any tests that would establish that the duct tape that was pulled off of her mouth by John Ramsey that was then picked up by Fleet White was found somehow to contain a perfect set of John Blay's lip prints? Was any test performed that made that finding?
The Lore Lads
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There was an examination apparently done at some point, which was reported back to a detective briefing at which I was present, and I believe that it was Wickman or Trujillo that shared that information. Who conducted that examination? I don't know. Was it an expert of some type? I don't know that there is such thing as an expert examination, and there's no testing that I'm aware of.
The Lore Lads
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I think it's more of a common sense observation. So he's saying, this thing that was reported to me at a detective briefing by a detective is what I was told. And they're like, well, do you know who did the test? You can see why this didn't go to trial. This lawsuit, why it was a settlement. Because, I mean, if you think you have him dead to rights on this, you're not going to settle.
The Lore Lads
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You're going to take it to trial. What else do we have here? After your book came out, sir, were you aware that Mr. Ubowski publicly denied the accuracy of the statement that he concluded Patsy Ramsey wrote the ransom note? He goes, no, you're telling me this for the first time.
The Lore Lads
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Are you familiar that Mr. Ubowski stated that he had never reached the conclusion that 24 of her letters out of the 26 letters of the alphabet were matched with the ransom note? No, I have not heard that. And you stated the contrary in your book, didn't you? Yeah, I stated what I was told by my detective sergeant.
The Lore Lads
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And you weren't even, I guess, aware that Mr. Urbasky and the CBI said they don't even make that kind of analysis with respect to the 24 out of the 26 letters of the alphabet? You don't know anything about that? No. In terms of the public statement made by the CBI after your book was published, the CBI made a public statement? Yes, sir.
The Lore Lads
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Like, they're just trying to get him, and they keep failing to get him. Mm-hmm. It's actually incredible reading through this list that somebody thinks this is points against Steve Thomas.
The Lore Lads
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Yeah, and they're ignoring the fact the DA was obstructing everything at this point. Did you ever seek to interview the Richardson twins who live with Melody Stanton? No. Why not? Because I was unaware of these people. Did anybody in the Boulder Police Department make an attempt, to your knowledge, to interview the two 30-year-old twins, the Richardson twins, that live with Melody Stanton?
The Lore Lads
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Not that I'm aware of. yeah did you interview these people you weren't aware existed kind of hard to do that like This is actually wild. How about the two friends of Fleet White that were there? Did you all ever get any non-testimonial evidence from those two individuals? Which two friends are you referring to?
The Lore Lads
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The ones that were with him on Christmas and were at the Ramseys on, I believe, the party of the 23rd. Do you know who I'm talking about? Mr. Fleet's houseguests at the time? Yes, his friends that were the houseguests. Did you all get any non-testimonial evidence, hair DNA, handwriting from Mr. Cox or Mr. Gaston?
The Lore Lads
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I believe that Detective Harmer received that assignment and made attempts to conduct that investigation, and I'm not sure whether or not she was successful in those attempts. Like, every single thing here that they attempt to get him on, they fail. And these are the cut, selectively edited versions. I'm not seeing anything in the deposition that shows Steve Thomas to be an unreliable detective.
The Lore Lads
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In fact, what I'm seeing is a guy who knows how lawyers operate. and is deliberately avoiding saying anything that they will misconstrue publicly or in court. I mean, I'm just disgusted by the lawyers involved in this case. Yeah, it's actually sad.
The Lore Lads
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What pisses me off, too, the police brought in, because the DA lawyers weren't doing their job, the police were like, we need somebody in our corner who knows the law. Like, not the way we do, the way lawyers do. So they went and got a whole bunch of actual prosecutors, three of them, if I remember correctly, and said, hey, we can't pay you much, but we need help.
The Lore Lads
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Also, if you look at Linda Hoffman Pugh, she did not scoot her way through that basement window.
The Lore Lads
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And they basically went, given the circumstances, yeah, you got us. Whatever you need, we'll even prosecute it. If they want to hire us to come in and prosecute the case, we will. The D.A. refused. The D.A. did not listen to these guys multiple times in meetings with deputy district attorneys. These Pete Hofstrom, for example, would say, well, because of this statute, I can't do that.
The Lore Lads
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And the other and the dream team, they called them be like, no, you can. You just won't. I mean. That's the best you can pull out of the deposition to be anti Steve Thomas. Really? Really? I mean, maybe I'll end up eating my words on this, but as far as I'm concerned right now, Steve Thomas is a damn hero.
The Lore Lads
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I mean, without his tenacity, I don't think that we ever learn any of the truth about this case. I agree. Yeah, who knows? Maybe I'll end up being wrong about that and I'll have to eat those words. But right now, I'm, everything I read, the more I read from both sides of it, the more skeptical I get of the Ramseys. So, again, in my opinion.
The Lore Lads
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Now, could somebody have snuck their way in, gone upstairs, unlocked the door, and let her in? Yes, absolutely. Is there any evidence that happened? No. Um... So she's probably out. Nedra is definitely out because also I don't believe that she would have killed her granddaughter, especially after losing. Well, no, that wasn't her granddaughter. Sorry.
The Lore Lads
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Yeah, you shave the beard and you kind of, yeah.
The Lore Lads
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What point in the livestream are we at, by the way?
The Lore Lads
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Just does it get easier... Losing your dogs? Yeah. I haven't lost a dog yet and I don't expect to handle it well at all.
The Lore Lads
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I am not looking forward to either of those two going, especially because when one goes, the other will probably follow shortly after. They are a small breed and a large breed who are approximately four years apart. So, not excited about it.
The Lore Lads
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By the way, every time I open Reddit, I am, my faith in humanity just crumbles because I'm looking through the responses to that and everybody's like, he looks so dumb. I'm like, If you think the lawyers weren't deliberately wording those questions in ways that were unanswerable, you're stupid. It was a deposition. This was about a lawsuit. He was being sued by the Ramseys.
The Lore Lads
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John had already lost a child, but I don't think she would have killed her granddaughter. Suzanne Savage, who we're going to go into this a little bit in Friday's episode. She had a key. She had been the house, not the housekeeper. She had been the nanny and had done some light housekeeping duties. But she hadn't worked for the family full time in over two years.
The Lore Lads
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Yeah, you're either... I'm excited to go through the deposition. I'm actually excited. Like, that's the part I've been wanting to get to. To be honest, all of this has been a slog so that I can get to the interviews and be like, here's all the places these people lied and here's all the places these people were consistent. Because I've yet to see something that Steve Thomas said that was a lie.
The Lore Lads
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And I've seen at least five things the Ramseys said that were lies. Like not, you know, slightly different ways of saying the same thing. Lies. If they try to sue me for that, I will find more.
The Lore Lads
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Something was going on here. Something was going on on this continent. There's too many stories of that. And they're from too many different places for it to be describing like one unknown tribe. I don't even believe in Bigfoot as it's described, but I'm genuinely confused. As to where all of these similar legends come from. Yeah.
The Lore Lads
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I have to wonder if it's stuff that they, like, came up with as they were passing through Canada. Like, on the way down here, and they just... Those stories just lasted millennia. But then again, how many stories do we have between European cultures that have lasted millennia that are that similar? Not many that aren't religious. Yeah, exactly.
The Lore Lads
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I gotta wonder if there were... But we would have found remains by now.
The Lore Lads
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Well, I mean... There were, like, another species of humans here? Well, they just found one, like, this week.
The Lore Lads
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Yeah, I guess we have Native American skeletons from that far back, though. I mean, I guess it's possible if they were a more wild people who didn't have proper burial practices.
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And they didn't really find any reason to suspect her when investigating across the street. It turned out that the I think the Brumfitts maybe it was or the Barnhill's. Barnhill. I think it was the Barnhills. They had somebody staying with them, renting a room. They had a key because they watched the dog.
The Lore Lads
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Well, I mean, yeah, you're right that we don't, like, do it every time, but if they find something, they do stop.
The Lore Lads
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Guess I'm looking up what Black Dahlia is.
The Lore Lads
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Yeah. Okay, I was going to say, because I didn't hear about this. Yeah. I would have thought that if it was EA. No, no, yeah. My community, even if it wasn't my school, so.
The Lore Lads
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yeah no this was spring forward it was uh yeah seventh grade jeez yeah we had a few i don't know that we had anybody who was middle school we had several people while i was in high school really uh i think two definitely one but i i feel like there were two it's horrible somebody else died from a uh an overdose after high school stuff Yeah. Well, that one actually wasn't.
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Dude was a piece of shit who I have a very personal reason to hate.
The Lore Lads
The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
Rare quality these days. Thank you. I'm glad that is noticed, because... I don't think there's one thing I don't think I can be accused of and it's being stuck in my way.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
Now, one of the theories was, oh, it could have been... Could it have been somebody in that family? Or could it have been the border? Well, the Barnhills were not... They were old, basically, is the only way to put this. They were not considered likely suspects. And the border, if I remember correctly, had the flu or pneumonia or something like that. So, probably not going out committing crimes...
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
Yeah, my family's dog that I have grown up with since I was, I think, 12. Well, I'm 27 now. She's going to be 15.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
So I just saw her today. She actually looks great. She looks very spunky. Every time she hangs out with Archie, it's like she de-ages several months. Yep. So I'm optimistic about her. But, yeah, I had a moment today where I was like, oh, God, you've been with me as long as I can remember. I'm not going to be okay.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
Oh, yeah, all of it. Yeah. I told him earlier in the Discord that every time I open Berserk, I take 20 psychic damage.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
Send us an email about that. Because if the evidence is there and he just never went to prison, the killer, we can allege a lot of things before we're in suit territory.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
And boy, do we have a surprise for you actually been on unsubscribe and we hope to go back. Yes. Um, great guys. We may even end up, uh, doing more than just being on unsubscribe, um, where we're having talks. Of course it is a bunch of YouTubers trying to have talks, which means that I talked to Eli about this a month ago. And we have not talked again yet. Not his fault. Not even his fault.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
That's just how it goes. It's the nature of YouTubers. Yeah. We all need personal assistance.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
Realistically, we all need the same personal assistance. who just talks to us for each other.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
Yeah, I need somebody who is just constantly in my ear like, you have to do this. And the thing is, it can't be Amanda because then I just kind of like, I'm like, yeah, I'll do it. And she does not have the ability to like yell at me.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
I think Ainsley could do it. This is my little sister, by the way. She could definitely do it. She'd be great at it. I think we'd both hate it.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
Yeah. Because she'd be a little too effective. Be a little too effective at it. Yeah. Yeah. We had her come in to help us with our books. And she basically was like, stop spending money, you idiots. We didn't realize we were spending that much. But we listened. Yeah, we did. For the most part. We spent a lot of money in Tennessee.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
And also yesterday. But that was for a good reason. It's for a great reason.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
Getting a little angy yesterday. Yeah. With being unable to properly get through my script that I wrote myself.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
while laid up with the flu if it wasn't an act if it wasn't an act but he had the flu for several days beforehand and he had the flu for several days after hand like fever and everything you can't really that would be hard to fake yeah that would be a pretty intense you know faked alibi exact that was the goal and I do want to be clear I am not saying I don't mean to say that like everything I'm saying right now is definitively true this is where I'm at in the research currently
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
I'll tell you what. The ones that were fun and funny that we didn't get to this week, we'll read them next week.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
When I cover something less dark. I mean, we'll still be right after the second episode of JonBenet, but... I'm taking a break from JonBenet for a week, partially for my own sanity and partially because you guys tend to get fatigued when we cover the same thing too many weeks in a row. And considering how many weeks this is going to end up being, this is I thought this was going to be two parts.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
It's now definitely three, almost certainly four, possibly five. So it's going to be a while. So you guys are getting a video on what I decide. Right. Bells Canyon. Next week you're getting Bell's Canyon. And then eventually the Superstition Mountains because originally I was like, oh, this is stupid.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
It's just a story to explain away how you got all this gold that you probably stole off of a wagon. And then I got a little further into it and I was like, oh, oh no. There's a lot of weird deaths here. So I was going to cover that, and then I was like, nope, that needs to wait, and I need to order some books that also aren't on Kindle.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
That's true, yeah. God, I've read so many books for this job. ballpark dozens I don't know I don't know the exact number dozens yeah probably ballpark somewhere around 40 to 50 in the last three years and not not fun books very dry books what's the best one you've had to read so far I actually, I think I really like Steve Thomas's, but I also really liked the Boy in the Box one.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
It's hard to say because most of them I read in such a weird manner where I was kind of jumping around looking for stuff. Read them all the way through just in an indirect way.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
Never beating the allegations. And with that... He sleeps near me, not next to me. Not with him. Not in the same apartment either. He's a whole two walls away from me.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
In which case he's literally right across the other side of a wall from me. Yes. This was not intentional.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
We did not mean to live next to each other.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
So just because it is getting very late and there are many chats and not all of them are topical and some of them are. riddled with usi i think we're gonna close this episode here and then i will either get to the unanswered questions and comments on the next one of these or if i am somehow able to get a stream in before that then i will do it then
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
when's the last time you had one oh god October really that long I think so yeah because we were in Tennessee for the first week of November yep it was it was October and it was probably mid-October because I had to get like three videos done in a week yep so I miss it I hopped on to play Call of Duty with my friends for the first time in months actually the first time in almost a year for Call of Duty because I got really pissed at Modern Warfare 3 and quit fair and they were all like oh my god look who had time for us laughing
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
And what I kind of want to lay out is like the police didn't drop the ball. They did. They didn't drop the ball a little bit on the actual morning of because they were confused and they didn't have a homicide detective. The closest things they had were like narcotics. Steve Thomas was an undercover narcotics officer who got brought onto this case, pulled out of deep cover.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
Yeah. I have them like in Bell, right though. It gives me a throw on a show in the background. I make myself a couple of coffee or tea. Play my little medieval village building game. Yeah, that's nice. All right. Well, everybody, thank you for being here. It was so kind of you. I hope we weren't too discombobulated. I think this was one of the most on track. Yeah, I would say.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
We stayed on topic almost the whole time. So, yeah, once I finish up the series, I will come back and anything I thought.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
There just hasn't really been any movement from what I understand. The FBI is involved to the extent that they have put out a reward for information. I don't know. I... I feel like the truth about that case is so obvious, and in this circumstance, it's just the police refusing to do their jobs. I mean, that family should never have been allowed to leave town.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
All of the same mistakes that were made with JonBenet Ramsey were made with the Rogers family, and that is so disheartening to see that nobody learned anything. Um... Yeah, so I do think they're extremely similar cases. They are so, so similar in terms of the parents' behavior.
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
I will say, I mean, the one thing this has done, studying JonBenet Ramsey, is it's made me more confident that Katie could be in on it.
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I don't know. It's hard to say if anything will ever happen with that case. I have become considerably less confident that Sebastian is still alive. Early on, it was my hope. I thought there was definitely a possibility of that. It's now at the point where I can't see how he could be. You can't hide him this long, this effectively. He'd need to go to a doctor.
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He'd need to... I mean, he'd need to be in school. Like, there would be something. He's gonna need clothes, food. Somebody wouldn't know if something's off. So... Unfortunately, I... I do think it's very possible that it was... It was a murder, not a kidnapping. Um... Yeah, that one makes me sad. Because it was very much solvable. I think it's very obvious who's responsible.
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Well, it's also... Not deep cover, but pulled out of cover.
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I think the motive is there. I think that the history is there.
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in that case we have a guy who has admitted to abusing his stepson we have a guy who is on record in the court system as having attempted to kidnap his own daughter using the legal system who has been sent to conflict resolution and parenting classes who has been repeatedly denied custody of his daughter in spite of trying over and over in spite of you know going out of his way to make it seem like the mother was unfit you know
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The Night JonBenét Died | Podcast Episode 150
I don't know. I genuinely cannot comprehend how this has not been solved. But unfortunately, the FBI can only get involved if it's reported as a kidnapping. And it never has been. It's always just been he ran away. I mean, in my opinion, if he had run away, he would have been found by now. There is totally probable cause to go and call this a kidnapping and ask for the FBI's help.
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The question is, why are they not? Close enough to a state line. I think they're not because this is a small town in Tennessee. It's not that small. It's like 60,000 people. But this is a rural Tennessee county for the most part. I think it's not insignificant that when I asked the... I think it was the sheriff's department. Does Christopher Proudfoot have any friends at the sheriff's department?
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And they told me he's not friends with the sheriff. That's not what I asked. I think that's significant because I very clearly said, does Christopher Proudfoot have connections or friends at the sheriff's department? And what I was told, Christopher Proudfoot is not friends with the sheriff. And then it's really interesting. The sheriff dies in an accident a couple months later.
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Possibly. If there's enough movement, I think at the very least I will put together a summary version that kind of combines everything in the three videos we did into one thing and then kind of goes from there. But we'll see. I hate how many dead kids I know everything about.
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The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
So if you want to share that across any subreddits you're in, if you want to share it on Facebook, Twitter, whatever, we would greatly appreciate it. Unfortunately, this is something we haven't had to deal with before. Yeah, it was a new one for us. We somehow keep encountering those. We did get the copyright claim from Warner Brothers, which wasn't cool.
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The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
And then there was also the Sound of Freedom one. Sound of Freedom one I probably should have seen coming. Because it was a lot of child trafficking stuff. Yeah. Yeah.
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Also, for anybody who watches that and is like, he left a lot out, most of what I would have left out, so to speak, hadn't come out yet. Yep. So, I tried to be as impartial as possible with that video.
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But there are details that have come out since then. That I just want, if anybody watches it, don't be like, you deliberately left this out. No, it just legitimately hadn't come to light yet. So the most important part of the video is the statistics and what child trafficking actually looks like and all of that and how you can get like what the best way to handle it if you suspect it is.
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The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
He really was. The movie 2012, I believe, is basically just based on his book.
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That's the important part. But there also is a breakdown of like, okay, here's how the movie lines up with reality. Yeah, that was one of the hardest ones I've ever had to do. That hurt my soul. All right. Thanks, guys. It's good to have you here. Thank you. We'll see you on the next one. Yeah, look out for this Friday. Bye.
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The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
That's funny. Yeah. So, I mean... The fact that 2012 gets that close... When this docu... I mean, granted, the declass... The unclass... They put one out in the 90s. Well, a lot of 2012 was based off the Mayan predictions, wasn't it? Yeah. I mean, that was the big thing that everyone was talking about at the time. Yeah. Which, by the way... Tangent...
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The Mayans weren't saying the world is going to end in the year 2012. What were they saying? The Mayans were like, our calendar works on a cycle, and that's so far away from right now that we don't need to add the next cycle yet. There's nothing about the world ending.
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They do have these ages of the world, and that, I think, was the problem, is you had the idea that the Mayans had these various ages of the world that we've gone through, and then you have the cycles, and, okay, so when this age ends, it's going to be a massive catastrophe. Mm-mm.
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Also, like, important thing to note here, Jessup, for example, went on expeditions to look at Maya ruins as the astronomer along for the ride with the archaeologists. We couldn't read their inscriptions at the time. We hadn't deciphered Maya. When did we do now? The 80s. He was fully deciphered by the end of the eighties.
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I think they started getting there in the late sixties, but it took a long time to figure it out. They had to get through. Cause also you got to remember, think how different we were talking about this on a, on weird Bible the other night, think about the difference between the King James Bible and the, any modern Bible in terms of the wording.
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And I mean, even the King James we have sitting over there, has somewhat updated spellings. Like, the words are the same, but the spellings are not. That's 400 years. That means that the difference between the earliest Maya inscriptions and the latest is going to be massive. Probably not as aggressive as that because as language gets more and more developed, it changes faster and faster.
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The number of changes to the English language alone that have happened in the last hundred years is mind-boggling.
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Yeah. Oh, another example of this that I love is Travels into Virginia Britannia by William Strachey. Okay. It's the one that we talked about when we did the video on Roanoke. Right, right. Where, I mean, he's using terms like, you know, if you got to a place and there were a bunch of chests... Like storage chests. There were a lot of them. They were a little different from each other.
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How would you describe them?
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You might say there's many chests. There's a bunch of chests. There were a bunch of trunks laying around. There's a lot of storage in this area. Yeah, or you might say they're different or various. They use the word diverse. You know? They were doing DEI all the way back then, Aiden. Oh, my God. Canceled. Diversity, Expedition... Inquisition. And Inquisition. I like it. I like it.
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But nobody expected it. Nobody expected it. Nobody expected the diversity inquisition on the expedition. So Strakey uses terms like diverse to talk about various. We use the word various usually. And I think a large part of it, because I think various comes more from French, if I'm not mistaken. But he also, for example, this is my favorite one. He's talking about he needs brave men to go ashore.
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Men of ambition and fortitude. And renown. And renown, even. These are words we'd use. We'd say, that's very brave of you to do that. That is, you're very ambitious. Do you remember what word he used? Oh, I certainly do. To describe the party of men who went ashore? I certainly do. He needed a party of lusty men. So many lusty men. Yeah, I think that...
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The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
That was quite a bit of the problem with British expansion across the world. Too much lust.
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But what, you know, he was sending these guys to an island that had nobody on it.
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Yes. You know, ambition or bravery. Lust. The lust for treasure, you might say. Something like that. Didn't...
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Oh, it was still lust. Just lust was used a lot more broadly. Got it. So lust was to want. In the Bible, it's understood that lust is more of a sexual thing. Whereas broadly in English at the time, lust was more of a... It's kind of weird that we need a bit of a horseshoe with that term. Yeah.
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Oh, yeah. It's crazy. The reason we speak the language we do is because a bunch of people got on horses and rode west out of the Caspian steppe like 5,000 years ago. Otherwise, well, we actually don't know what we'd sound like. Something like Basque, maybe. Like what? Basque. One of the few remaining pre-Indo-European languages.
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Yeah, there's a couple of Paleo-European languages still around. Basque is one of them. I don't know about you guys, I'm learning a lot more than I expected to tonight. There's also the Voyage Manuscript, which may or may not be a complete forgery, but if it isn't a forgery, it's very confusing. What does it say?
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That was my point, nobody does. Oh. It's written in a completely alien language. Nobody knows how to read it. Oh, okay. And it was found in Russia. That was not... Might not be Russia.
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No, no. Yeah. Because we don't know what they are. It's like... Got it. It also... So here's the thing. It's believed to be one of two things. Either it is a forgery, and nothing more, or... It is some kind of medical text. Got a lot of drawings of various plants and herbs. None of which are recognizable to the area that they're supposed to be from. Or really elsewhere.
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I also thought he was a girl a few times and grabbed his ass. It was, you know, it just got a little weird. Suddenly... The height and the long hair. Suddenly HR got a lot more simple around here. Yeah, you know, just so many complaints that were coming in, and that's really confusing because I was filing complaints with myself, you know?
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I might do a video on this one, too. Cool. But... It's thought that maybe it was a medical text, but nobody really knows from where or what it would have been used for because it's unique. We don't know what it says. Did they carbon date it? That's the problem. It carbon dates to around the time it's said to have originated.
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I think like the 1500s. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah. That's why it's confusing is because, like, why does the ink carbon date to the appropriate time period for this when, if it was a forgery, it was probably in the 1800s, I believe.
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Yeah, here we go. Okay, so it's the vellum. I thought it was the ink, too. I guess it's the vellum. I haven't seen. Maybe the ink does, too. I'll have to take a look at it. But the vellum, which is the paper, it was animal skin, that dates to the early 15th century, so I think 1404 to 1438.
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Stylistic analysis has indicated the manuscript may have been composed in Italy during the Italian Renaissance, but the origins, authorship, and purpose of the manuscript are still debated, but currently scholars lack the translations and or context needed to properly entertain or eliminate any of the possibilities.
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Hypotheses range from a script for a natural language or constructed language, an unread code, cipher, or other form of cryptography, or perhaps a hoax, reference work, glossolalia, or work of fiction. We have no idea what this is. Now, the one thing I will say... Could be Tolkien before Tolkien. Or it could be somebody like Da Vinci. Da Vinci wrote backwards, for example. Frequently or just...
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Interesting. Method of disguising words. Just for secrecy. Got it. Or that might be just a myth that I learned when I was a child and never questioned, to be honest. Fair. That does happen now and then. But yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if it were something along those lines. But it's just weird. It's one of those weird things that we have it and we go, what is this?
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He's coming to me, he's like, hey, my boss grabbed my ass, and I'm like, all right, I'll tell him. Gotta stop doing that. Anyway, I... Big weekend for Philadelphia. Aiden, I got to ask, what's your favorite part of the real Philadelphia Experiment story after we looked through? Oh.
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I put that up there with the Regius poem, the Hallowell manuscript, which is the earliest Masonic document we have that is extraordinarily Christian. It's explicitly Catholic. Don't modern Masons not like Catholics? No, modern Catholics don't like Masons. Right, right, right. So I always find that one to be extremely ironic. Because the first document we have is Catholic.
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But it also says weird stuff about Euclid and fabricate. God, I can't remember the exact term, but something about Euclid taking geometry and making masonry out of it. There's some philosophical thing going on there I don't totally understand. And this is the problem is I know a lot of Freemasons. I don't know many Freemasons who even know this exists. Really? Yeah.
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Because most of the stuff that Freemasons talk about is from the late 1700s. I mean, the furthest back anybody really cares to look at for the most part is 1717, the establishment of the First Grand Lodge, even though the earliest meeting minutes we have from Freemasons are from 1599. Wow. That's 118 years between the earliest minutes in Scotland and and the establishment of the First Grand Lodge.
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That's a long time. It drives me nuts that there's not more research into that. How do we get from this poem in the early 1400s, potentially late 1300s, that talks about some group bringing masonry to England in the 8th century, and then it developing into what it became. especially because we know that if Freemasonry is supposed to be tied to the Templars, that's way too early.
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Templars didn't exist yet, so what was that, you know? They talk about, I think it's... It's not Alfred. It might be Ethelred? Anyway, they talk about it coming to York in, like, the 700s. What are you talking about, bro? What are you talking about? But I guess if it was the aliens, it all makes sense.
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Yeah. What I wonder is, you know, Carl Allen, Carl Alien? Maybe he knew something. Maybe he was their attempted first contact. Oh, my God. He might have thought he was. I feel bad for the guy for the most part. Like, he obviously had an untreated mental disorder.
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I mean, it's... I wouldn't say it's quite as aggressive, but it makes me think of like Kanye where it's like this person clearly is going through some kind of mental episode and has is either rejecting or disinterested in help. And as a result, it's causing a lot of problems for them.
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You know, clearly whatever happened with Carl Allen cut him off from his family in a pretty aggressive way to the point that his brother wouldn't even let him meet his kids. Wow, it was that bad? His brother was like, Carl has nieces and nephews that he'll never meet.
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Because it was just... I mean, he was crazy. He was legitimately not with it. He probably should have been in mental health care, in an inpatient facility. Unfortunately, back then... That was probably not better. Even today, psych wards aren't great. He probably would have been better off in one.
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Because, I mean, for those who maybe haven't seen the video or for those who are just coming over from the video, welcome. But for those who have not seen our Philadelphia Experiment video, The gist of this story is in 1943, the U.S. Navy used a one of Einstein's theories to make a ship disappear and then accidentally teleported it.
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But what I think is so interesting about him as a person is that he clearly wasn't with it, but at the same time, there was a rationale for him writing these letters to Jessup. He was trying to affect change in a way. And in a way that makes a lot of sense. He was afraid of this thing that he felt would be dangerous, so he tried to stop it.
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But the degree to which he had to invent things to get there is weird. And I gotta say, what's even weirder about it isn't everything he said. It's the people who jumped on board with it and started pushing it even further. And I don't mean people like Moore and Berlitz who were trying to make a buck writing a book on a ridiculous topic.
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There are people out there who glued themselves on and insist this happened. And I cannot for the life of me understand why. Carl, I get it. He had a reason. He had a motive. Other people, like Al Bieski, I think his name is. Why? Why do you stand again joining in on this? Nothing. It doesn't seem like it's for books either. It's just very intense about it. And then I see the other weird stuff.
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If we look back to Jessup, I think Ivan Sanford was his name, right? That sounds right. Yeah, Ivan T. Sanford. He, for absolutely no reason that I can think of, starts telling people that Jessup was not found in a park, that he was found in his garage. The reason seems to be that he was trying to make it more like this was definitely him leaving the world of his own volition situation.
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He was in his garage. Like, come on, guys. Meanwhile, it's like, no, every other source says that a parking lot attendant found him in a parking lot in a park. Including the official police reports. Including the official police reports. And we're talking about Miami-Dade County. Yeah. This is not... This wasn't the FBI who swooped in and handled it. This was the local police. Why are you lying?
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He also said that there were no statements about whether or not there had been a hose attached to the exhaust pipe, and that it could have just been the fumes gathered, like, accumulated in the garage because it wasn't ventilated, and that's how he did it. But no, I mean... There's a few things.
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The police reports and the newspapers very explicitly say that there was a hose attached to the exhaust pipe. And that it was like a... Like a duct. Like a hose for a duct system. It would fit over the exhaust pipe. And that it was taped on. So whatever this was, it was very deliberate. Now, they didn't actually perform an autopsy.
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So if there was a different cause of death, that could have been hidden. I... The other thing is that some of the sources I read suggested, and the reason I didn't include this in the video is because I couldn't corroborate it. Some of the sources I found said that there were wet washcloths in the doors and windows to make sure that no air could escape the vehicle.
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Which sounds very much like a premeditated attempt. That isn't something you do because you're just having a really bad day and you go, what if I just stay in the car and let the lights go out? The way it's described is that was thought out. And there are a lot of people who said he had been talking like this for a little while. He and his wife were separated at that point.
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He had been in a major car accident. there are a lot of signs that he may have ended his own life. On the other hand, his wife seemed very adamant that he would not do so, and his brother visited him, like, a few weeks before all of this happened, and didn't seem to have had any clue this was going to happen. So... it's weird...
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We looked into the actual story and that is very much not what happened. It seems that what happened is somebody had maybe heard about what degaussing is and got the wrong idea. Aiden, do you know what degaussing is? Remind me. It is. I am not just just off the bat. I am not a physicist. I am not an electrician. I don't know the details about how this works.
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On the one hand, I wouldn't put it past the government to get rid of somebody just for what he supposedly knew.
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Could have been any number of reasons that could have happened. One of my favorites is the Roswell incident. As I was reading about it, I always heard of the Roswell incident as, you know, a bunch of people witnessed the crash, and then the government swarmed it, and the men in black were there, and they covered everything up and spirited away to Area 51.
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I'm looking at it, and like, no, the Army basically said, we found a crashed saucer. That's weird. And then the next day, they're like, we didn't find a crashed saucer. What are you talking about? And then in the 70s, the guy who found the crashed saucer, the intelligence officer who was there, was like, oh, no, it was definitely a crashed saucer. I don't think that needs to be aliens, by the way.
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That could very easily be, you know, could have been skunk works, could have been Russian. I think it probably would have been skunk. It would have been them testing, probably testing some of that Nazi tech.
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Yeah. Do you, do you remember what the, what the Gemini and Mercury mission spacesuits looked like?
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They were like Chrome with helmets. Oh, right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Which could have very easily, if you crashed, and there was a lot of heat, it didn't penetrate the suit. Like, it didn't burn the suit, but it did penetrate the suit that somebody could shrivel. Yep, maybe get extremely dehydrated. Yeah, and then if they were wearing a helmet, it would look like a big head. Yeah. So... I don't know.
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I'm going to look into it. I'm going to do a video on Roswell now. It's almost like logically it makes sense. Yeah, that's... Also, when you look at the stuff that we do have and did have, it's not ridiculous. No, not even close. I don't know. The more I look back at stories that we cover from the 40s through the 60s, the more I am just astonished at how much stuff happened. Yeah.
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That period of time specifically is filled with so much weird stuff compared to every other period in American history. There's so much stuff that makes sense. A ton of it. Yeah, every once in a while we get something weird like, oh, there are gorillas in California. What's a gorilla look like? Nobody knows yet. Nobody's brought a picture of a gorilla to America at this point in time.
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They had only the gorillastrations. Yeah. But that's like a brief period. It's not even really a brief period. It's just a bunch of incidences of this in a short time frame. It's like, okay, that's weird. We can talk about that. But nowhere near the level of high strangeness that we look at in the 50s.
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My understanding is that degaussing is basically when you run copper wire through a ship and give it, I think, some kind of electric charge so that it makes it more difficult for... It basically turns the ship to having a neutral electromagnetic signature. Oh, so it's basically just active anti-radar. It's not even anti-radar. It's anti-mines. Oh, interesting. I always thought mines were kinetic.
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Could you imagine how utterly destroyed any person from the 1950s would be if you gave them 20 minutes on conspiracy TikTok?
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The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
oh they absolutely one shot yeah gone yeah that's if we ever have a time machine that's what i'm gonna do i'm gonna go back to like 1952 and show some middle-aged housewife conspiracy talk and just see what happens show them star wars and say it's a documentary some of them will believe it i mean that's the thing i
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The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
Take the Joe Rogan podcast when he has people on who have out there ideas and just make it worse.
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Oh, my God. Poor Bob Lazar. I have no idea what happened to that man, but he's broken. What do you mean? The UFO guy? Yeah, I don't follow info about him, so what happened to him? Oh, I saw him on Rogan years ago, and just the stuff he was talking about, it's like... Element, like, 115 and all that, yeah, but, like, why is he... Oh, no, no, I mean, he was talking about how the government, like,
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the CIA destroyed his marriage. Oh yeah. Like he might just be insane, but if he isn't insane and the stuff he's saying is true, then the government screwed this guy.
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This was back when he was working at Area 51.
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what do you expect exactly so i don't know i mean the one thing that gets me with bob lazar is that i can't imagine ufo research being any less compartmentalized than the manhattan project was so what do you mean Well, didn't he... He said he worked with, like, a number of different things, right?
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Gotcha. Gotcha, okay. So my understanding was that he had worked on a few different, like, stages of it.
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Like, have you ever, like, he is a very skittish person. When you watch him on camera, like, you can see the nervousness.
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So, well, yes... The problem was the Germans used magnetic mines. Got it. So that a ship would pass, the mine would get pulled towards it, and then it would explode upon impact. Got it.
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Then he has a reason to be paranoid. Yeah. Which, there's a real catch-22 there if you're the government because, like, if he is telling the truth, you have two options, right? You either let him keep going and hope everyone thinks he's crazy, or you shut him up. In which case, everyone immediately thinks he was telling the truth.
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Weird phone calls, wiretapping, the whole thing with his wife. Yeah. Which, at the same time, if you give a man nothing to live for... You give him no reason to fear you. Yeah.
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Yeah, I mean... And the sad part is Ashton Forbes seems to think he's in that position.
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It wasn't sucked into a wormhole, I promise. I promise you the plane did not go into a wormhole. It's a fake video. We proved it was a fake video. Aiden proved it was a fake video. It took him five minutes. Five minutes in Premiere. Not even After Effects. Brother.
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So the idea with degaussing, and they were experimenting with this in World War II, was that you would run that electric current through the ship, it would, I guess, neutralize the electromagnetic field, and then you would be able to sail through a minefield without triggering the magnetic mines.
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God, what a... Also, other thing that we're going to have coming up is going to be... Yeah, Tito again. Oh, so it is coming up soon. Nice. Yeah, the documentary on Netflix comes out pretty soon. I think May. Okay, cool. So hopefully we'll be able to get her mother and brother onto the show. Yeah, that'd be nice. As we had talked about with them a while ago, they offered to come on years ago.
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Years ago being they were like, yeah, once all the lawsuits are over, we'll come on the show. That was 2021. Wow. Yeah. That's how long the legal cases have dragged on. That's insane. Yeah, no, it is crazy what went into that and the fact that the laundries just kind of got away with it. I am that, that letter, you know, the letter I'm talking about. I know exactly what you're talking about.
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know that fun would be the right word but i see where you're coming from fun in the sense of uh watching you tear down the laundry oh yeah is going to be fun yeah i'm looking forward to it uh roberta laundry is such a creep i mean in the letters it's it's such a like reverse edible complex letter yeah it's scary If you need to bury a body, I'll give you a shovel.
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Really lame. I got to be honest. I mean, I will say there is somebody in the Chiefs world I feel bad for. It is Jon Hamm. Yeah. That was tough. That was tough. That was not his fault. That wasn't his fault. That was not his fault. That wasn't his fault. But that's not the only Philadelphia-oriented thing that we're talking about tonight.
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If you need to bake out a prison, I'll get you a file and a cake. If you need some belly rubs, I'll come give them to you. Horrid. Wretched. It very much felt like she was jealous of Gabby. Which is a level of boy-mom going on there. The one person in that family I do feel bad for is Brian's sister. She doesn't seem to have known anything about anything.
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Because you don't want to believe it, but, I mean, from what I can tell. Kind of like with Burke's, Burke Ramsey's siblings. Yep. You know they know.
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Well, not any time in the next month, now that YouTube decided nobody gets to see the Philadelphia Experiment video. I mean, I don't want to maybe maybe I'll be able to do this better talking about it than texting and typing about it. I think I I've seen a lot of criticism, people that are like, you know, well, if you know, all you care about is the money.
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And it's like, no, I very much want to get to the bottom of the case. I'm very passionate about it. I feel like, you know, maybe we we can put something out that really hammers at home for people. Especially after, you know, I've done a lot more research than we've presented so far. So when I speak about it on this show, I'm a little bit more forthcoming with, you know, my beliefs, my opinions.
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In the series, I've done a good job of holding that back up until episode four, where it was really impossible to talk about it without pointing out that the Ramseys were lying.
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Some people have said that the green fog that he describes could have been from that electromagnetic field in the air, like the way that it interacted with the seawater or something. I wouldn't be shocked. Yeah.
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And following things as the police learned them. Yes. That's the other important thing, is that everything I've seen has been, here's everything that happened in the order it happened. To some extent. But it's... It's really easy to look at it and go, oh, I can't believe, you know, the reason this is unsolved is that the police did a terrible job. No. That is not the reason it's unsolved.
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And that is, I think, what has been relied upon by the Ramsey side for 30 years is, well, you know, the police just did such a bad job with the investigation that it can never be solved. We'll never know who did it. And if you've got people convinced that the police bungled it that bad... nobody's going to expect it to be solved. They're going to just by default assume that it was an intruder.
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When you start to look at how the police investigation actually went and you see how many times the Ramseys stonewalled them, it becomes very clear that the Ramseys were deliberately hiding things and trying to avoid the police being able to investigate as they tell the media.
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We just wish the police would investigate, you know, and the thing where John's like, you know, we want the full resources on this. Meanwhile, his lawyers are preventing things from being tested. Uh, So that's why we want to lay it out the way that we've been doing it. But in order to do that, it takes a lot more organizing, a lot more writing.
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So the research, it's not as straightforward as usual where I can do an episode and I can just go, all right, here's everything that happened in the order it happened. I have to go, okay, I know this, but I have to set this aside because the police didn't.
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So it's a much more intensive project, which is why the episodes are about 40 minutes, why they are so time-consuming for me, and why when I put one out and it doesn't get any traction... It's just kind of a morale hit at a certain point. I put a lot of effort into this, and then nobody sees it.
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But more importantly, as I'm sure... I think people get this sense watching YouTube that... Almost that we all... I think people have a warped understanding of how much money YouTubers make. And don't get me wrong. We are comfortable. We do well. But... We can't take that hit every month. There are certain things that could insulate it from that.
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If we had 10 grand coming in every month on Patreon, I could go ahead and cover JonBenet once a month without worrying about how it does on YouTube. But the thing is, if a JonBenet Ramsey video comes out and it does terribly... That does a number of things. First of all, it cuts our income. And we do not operate on a very large margin.
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We have basically every single bit of money we bring in gets spent, either on improvements to the lodge, on salaries. We're trying to hire new people. We're trying to basically get more editors and some research help so we can produce this level of content, this level of quality as consistently as we have.
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But in order to do that, we need to be making more money than we just alone are able to survive on. So that gets us to a point where if a video doesn't do well enough, we can't take that risk over and over and over again. And I don't want to make a post on YouTube that's basically like, hey guys, please pay for the Patreon so that I can make the video. I don't want to do that.
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The reason I came out and told everybody, hey, the schedule is probably going to change on JonBenet a little bit is because I didn't want people to be like, where's the JonBenet series? Why haven't you made another one? And then me just kind of cryptically being like, it's coming. I wanted to explain like, hey, we're still going to do this. We're still focused on it.
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But it's going to have to taper down a little bit. We cannot be doing a video. Imagine you run a car dealership. And every week you sell ten new cars. And then one week, randomly, you only sell five. All right. Okay. Well, the next week you're back to ten. Ten. Five. Five. At that point, you look at business and you go, something's not working.
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Yes. Electrolysis, right?
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And you start to see that you're not going to be able to make payments on things. You're going to have to consider maybe cutting hours, things like that. With any business, if you're not bringing in money, you can't operate. And this is a business at the end of the day. It's a business that we love and that I adore being able to do. And it actually sucks for me.
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I mean, I know a lot of people have been critical of that and that we're basically saying that this is a money issue because at the end of the day, it is. I hate that I'm not able to keep working on this. Aiden knows this, by the way. I would love nothing more than to spend the next six months doing nothing but JonBenét Ramsey.
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Yeah. I mean, I genuinely it's, I think it's some of the best writing I've ever done. Some of the best research I've ever done. Definitely. I want to make the JonBenet series. I would love to be putting out a JonBenet video every week, every other week, something like that. The problem is that we're looking to hire a full-time editor. And if it were just the two of us, we could take that risk.
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We can't take that risk once we have employees. You know? We're both trying to build families. Like, we're trying to buy houses. So... It's different. We're not insulated. If we could make more money, that would help. But we don't want to beg you guys to spend your hard-earned money on our stuff.
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And I think this is the other thing is people, I think, get it in their head that we're looking for more on top of it. No, if each video that we put out did 500 views in the first month, we'd be golden to do more. 500,000, you mean? Yeah, 500,000 views in the first month. We'd be golden. But they don't.
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Once they get to that point, if they do get to that point, that will be amazing because we'll be able to do one of two things. Either I'll be able to take a week off, not take a week off, but take a week off from posting and every month have a video that I got to do two weeks of research on. Or we'll be able to put out more content, put out better content. That's where we want to get to.
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That does seem to be the most likely outcome here. Yeah. Is that... Somebody just had a misunderstanding. Now, what I didn't get to in the video, because the goal of the video was to talk about whether or not the Philadelphia experiment happened, what's the evidence for it, all of that. What I didn't necessarily cover was Carl Allen's reasoning.
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If we're at that point, I can... If we have 500,000 views on three videos and then 150 on one, we can absorb that. What we can't do is absorb... videos that do half as well as usual week in and week out. And a lot of people brought up two sponsorships and they were like, why does it matter how many views the video gets?
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If the video has a sponsorship on it, it's because the worst the videos do overall, we get paid on an average when we're negotiating deals. So if our videos start doing worse and worse, the sponsorships bring in less and less money and eventually get to the point where we're not getting them at all. So what I'm trying to say here, and I'm not trying to complain.
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I don't want it to sound like I'm complaining at all. I'm not. I want people to understand that it's not an issue of like, well, you guys don't like it enough. You guys don't care enough. No, you guys care. I care. He cares. We want to get it done. But from a business perspective, it's just not feasible at the moment. So I'm working on ways to make it work.
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One of those, to be totally transparent, was talking about taking the cold case stuff and bringing it to another platform where it would be a paid subscription-based thing, but it wouldn't just be to us. It would be Pepperbox, for those of you who are familiar with Unsubscribe. So it would be for anyone who's on Pepperbox, you get access to that. It's $8 a month.
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But then there's the other thing where people are like, well, what about here on YouTube? When do we get it? What if I don't have the $8 to spend? It's like, well, I want it to be available for you too. That's why our Patreon is so cheap. The reason our Patreon is only $1 is because we don't want it to be a barrier. we want people to be able to go there and get the content and see it.
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We, you know, early on, I even said to him, I was like, you know, if we start doing well enough on, on Patreon, maybe we could just turn off ads on YouTube entirely. And it quickly became obvious that wasn't feasible. But I mean, like, honestly, if it was just you and me and we were bringing in the kind of money on Patreon that we bring in on YouTube right now, I would turn off ads on YouTube.
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If we weren't trying to grow, if this was what we were good with, That's not it. He wants to make movies. I want to make video games. We want to be able to provide jobs for some of our close friends who have been supportive of us since the start. To end the long-winded diatribe here, I want to do the JonBenet series. I don't blame you guys for me not being able to do the JonBenet series.
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It's just the way the circumstances are right now. And I hate it. I would love, love to be back on it. It drives me nuts that this week coming up, I'm doing, you know, don't get me wrong. I'm interested in doing the missing four-on-one case. I'm looking forward to it. It's going to be Dior Kuntz. It's one people have been asking for forever. I would love to be doing JonBenet.
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I feel like that is a case where we can actually make a difference, maybe. But it's just not feasible right now. So I was planning on doing one this month, for the record. I was going to try and make it a monthly thing. I was like, all right, we're doing well enough that we can take that hit once a month.
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Unfortunately, because of how unpredictable YouTube has been recently, and they, again, nuked one of our videos that we had to re-upload tonight, that basically means that I have to take a risk. Either I say, all right, well, we're still going to do the JonBenet video. And if it doesn't do well, then our revenue declines by a quarter. Or I have to wait a month.
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Because, yes, he was just insane to a certain extent. He had a history of pulling pranks that...
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I'll be honest, it might work out that I can do them more frequently over the summer when our viewership is at its highest. During the year, that's our best season. I'd love to be able to do it then. But yeah, I guess what I want to say to you guys is I am very passionate about it. I know you guys are passionate about it too. I'm not blaming you guys. You're not the reason that we're not doing it.
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YouTube's algorithm is. You know, I can see the analytics. I can tell when the platform isn't showing the video to as many people. Because on the JonBenet videos, we frequently have exceedingly high click-through rates, like 8% to 10% compared to 6% to 7% for our normal videos. but they get fewer views. So I know YouTube isn't pushing it. And there's just nothing I can do about that.
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I'm working with our partner manager. I'm trying to figure out how we navigate this. I'm actively... We have a meeting with him, I think, in a couple of weeks to follow up on some stuff and try and figure out how to make this work better. Yeah, I'm trying, guys. I really am. I don't... I don't want to have to have this kind of space between series.
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resulted in pretty awful things i'm trying to remember but off the top of my head i can't but basically they would play pranks that like broke up a person's marriage and be like ha nice i did it yes frank succeeded frank that's that's just being an asshole yeah so you know it's like the memes where people are like it's just a prank bro the prank and it's you know somebody being thrown off a building uh yeah that kind of thing
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I don't want to have to end a series early right now. I'm trying to figure out how the hell do the Pennsylvania series, because while a lot of those are interesting cases, half of them, there's like two newspaper articles and that's it.
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So I have to adjust, I have to rework it and I have to take some time because, you know, over the summer with the Appalachian cluster, with the great smoky mountains cluster, those were all well-documented. Pennsylvania, not so much. So I'm having to rework it. The next video might be the cases that are kind of weird, but not necessarily super weird.
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And then it might be the final video is cases that genuinely are inexplicable.
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Like I said, I'm not trying to make this a complaint. I am not upset at all. I just want people to understand that we're not abandoning it. We just have to change the strategy a little bit.
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There's a lot of topics I would love to cover, and I look at it and I go, you know what? As much fun as this would be, as much as our core audience would love it, as a CEO... I can't. I've got to play two roles here. There's the content creator and the CEO. Unfortunately, the more we're able to do as a company...
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The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
the less i'm able to do as a creator for now the goal for the record is that we push through this for another year and we're at the point where i can cover whatever the hell i want and i can really take it to heart when you guys say please cover this and i am trying to do that more and got some feedback over the fall that was like hey guys you know we feel like the channel isn't what it used to be can you go back to covering these things and i went yep
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The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
So I did China Kandahar, Philadelphia Experiment. I got Roswell in the pipeline. I've got Dior Coons, which is one people have been begging for. Got some more Bigfoot in there. Got some Bell's Canyon in there. Like, I saw you guys saying, hey, it feels like it's just turned into a debunking MissingForum1 channel. And I was like, you know what? You're right. Let's fix it. And I'm trying.
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The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
I'm working on it. There's going to be growing pains, you know? But you guys are our business, right? We want to keep you happy. You're our customers. Our goal is to keep you guys satisfied with our product. And we are trying our best to do that. And sometimes we're going to miss, but I can promise you we'd sit here and we have, I mean, we're best friends.
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We live next to each other, but we have a ton of meetings, basically informal meetings where we're like, how can we fix this? How can we fix that? How can we improve here? Yeah. We wish every video was like killdozer, but like, Unfortunately, not every video is like Killdozer.
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We all know why you were really interested in Killdozer, and it had nothing to do with the reasons... I like big vehicles. He watched I Dig Dirt and said, I'm going to make this my personality. Yeah, I did. That was coal propaganda, I learned.
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The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
so he was a kick streamer before kick streaming yes he was like what's that really annoying little twerp who walks around with a body with a bodyguard bumping into people i'm so glad i have no idea who you're talking about jack doherty or something oh that unfortunately sounds familiar yeah the guy who like crashed mclaren and like injured his friend in doing so and then continued to film himself for his stream while his buddy is like being attended to by paramedics yeah um
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Yeah. Unfortunately, there's a lot more stratification than I think. than I think you might expect. And I can tell you guys, as somebody who was not doing this five years ago, I had no idea how complex this would be. No. There is so much going on at all times. No.
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Go Birds! Go Birds! Oh, you. Oh, we heard it. We heard it all year in the comment sections, in the live chats. Oh, oh, but boy, does it feel good.
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I consistently feel like everything's going to fall apart because we built this so fly-by-night, total house of cards, and we're working slowly behind the scenes to, you know, un-F everything.
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I completely understand why so many people who build companies eventually step away from the CEO position. Yeah. I get it. Yeah. Because it's... This is not why I do this. I'm not a businessman. I'm not bad at sales, but I'm not a businessman. This is not what I'm best at, and it takes away from the thing I'm genuinely good at and the thing that brought people to the channel in the first place.
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The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
with all that said, you know, I hope that explains a little bit more of, of, uh, you know, why the channel looks the way it does right now, why the topics are what they are. I know a lot of people, a lot of new people came in from the JonBenet series and are maybe a little confused about why we're not doing it as frequently.
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The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
Um, and you know, those are growing pains that happens, but our hope is that, you know, people understand like this channel covers a range of topics, um, There was one rather funny comment where somebody said, like, you know, if you want to cover other topics, you should break out into, like, different channels and do it. I'm like, first of all, already doing that.
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Second of all, the true crime stuff is new. Like, that started in 2024. We covered Gabby, but that was because it was... Didn't we do some Smiley Face Killer stuff in 2023? Yeah, but that was more like That was more like urban missing 411. Yeah. That, that I saw less as true crime and more as like unsolved mystery. Fair. And there, there was always a bridge there. Yeah.
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The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
I was just deliberately avoiding not taking it.
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The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
Yeah, it happens, but yeah, that's, that's how it goes. Um, I know we have super chats, a lot of them. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you very much. Definitely going to help make up for it.
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I want to punch that kid in the skull. The skull.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
Okay, this is a change in conversation.
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The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
Yeah. Also, I will admit, I've seen a lot of people talking about the symbolism of Of the performance and how it was a protest. And I gotta be honest, I don't know what the protest was. Really? Just everything politically happening right now. It was not very direct. That was the intent. Okay. Yeah. So I was like, I don't... I was looking around and I'm like, I feel like I'm supposed to get it.
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The face, the nose, the jaw, all of that's cosmetic damage. Yeah. That's not what I'm going for. You're going for maximum concussive. Oh, yeah. We're going to make... I want this kid and Tua Tagovailoa to be in a support group together. I'd say Antonio Brown, but I don't think Antonio Brown is... We're ten minutes in.
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I was listening, like, while he was performing, I was listening to the lyrics and everything. I was like, oh, he writes like an author. Yeah, yeah, 100%. Like, he... His lyrics have foreshadowing.
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I don't know, but as he was describing it, I was like, that sounds like my body in college. Do you call your body a device? Well, no, not the rest of it. Oh. About, like, breaking things and it still runs. Oh, yeah, fair. Yeah, because I broke those ribs. It's like you and rugby. Yeah. Yeah. Literally broke three ribs, played the next weekend.
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My favorite thing about that was Mount Nittany Health sending me home for strep with Vicodin and sending me home with lidocaine for broken ribs. Yeah, that's hilarious. Topical lidocaine. Yeah, they gave me these big-ass slabs of cloth with lidocaine on the inside, and they were like, just put it on your ribs.
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And I'm like, this doesn't... They had asked me, they were like, do you want narcotics or NSAIDs? And I was like, well, if I say narcotics, I'm definitely not getting narcotics.
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I don't think Antonio Brown is capable of attending a support group, and I think it might be dangerous for everybody else. Like a kick streamer. Yeah. So, anyway, there's one kick streamer I will mildly respect, and it's Aiden Ross, because that guy has no idea what the hell he's doing, and he just keeps going. You sure it's not because he has our name? No, it's not that. He spells it a stupid way.
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I should have said narcotics. I just straight up should have said narcotics. Dude, they could have been in that last game against media off a perk. I could have been doing stuff they'd never seen before. They're really stringent about them nowadays. Apparently they weren't when we were sophomores.
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The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
Both of them have... You have migraines.
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They did give it to me in the hospital for the ribs. I... If you've never been on it, it's a weird experience. You're in pain, and then your entire body is just warm.
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Yeah. Like, there is no pain. You forget what pain is.
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You understand why people get addicted to it and why they are so strict with it. Because it's one of those things that you're... You feel it and you're like, oh, I wish I could feel like this all the time. And then you're like, oh, that is why they don't give this to us. That is why I cannot buy this over the counter at CVS. Yeah. Like, this would be bad. Yeah.
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Like A-I, or A-D-I-N. You're wrong. Yeah, exactly. He doesn't know anything that's happening. He's just going. Him and I show speed. He seems like he's fun. But point is, Carl Allen. I didn't get into it in the video. He did not have... It wasn't as pointless as it seemed. making this whole thing up.
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Dragon's breath rounds, brother. Fair. Dragon's breath shells. Love it. See, here's the thing. The Wendigo, he's used to dealing with some people that got tomahawks. He's never met the kind of tomahawks the U.S. military has. Cruise missile to Wendigo. It's not getting up.
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Thank you, Lisa. Thank you very much.
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Was that a reference to the Book of Job? I am equal parts impressed and horrified. Okay.
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No, they cannot. They definitely can't save you from a 34-point deficit.
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Was it 34-0 at one point?
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Did you see that Patrick Mahomes, his highlight reel starts at 34-0? In the second half?
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How do you do a Kermit voice? It's been too long.
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Oh, you know what? You're getting it.
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All right, now say, the eagle's defensive line is my daddy.
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I will say it's a little ironic when in the video that went up Friday and the video that went up an hour ago because YouTube is mean.
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perfect did you see uh philly fans burned a kermit the frog puppet no but that's amazing during the celebration last night did you see they they tore down being burned alive you see they tore down us oh yeah i did carry it up broad yep they tore down a couple of them my favorite too was the fact that
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Broad Street, Philadelphia, and Beaver Avenue State College were indistinguishable from one another. If you saw pictures of them, the only way you could tell the difference was the buildings.
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Like, where are we right now? I do remember when I was at Penn State and we won the first time.
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The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
He did make the whole thing up and it probably did come from some understanding of degaussing tests because he was in the Navy at the time. He was on the Andrew for us. That's all proven real things that happened. He was also a very firm believer in UFOs and aliens and did believe that. I think he did genuinely believe that he had learned something from Albert Einstein. Um,
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people got pepper sprayed there were riot cops i got chased off of the hub lawn by riot cops yeah not old hub hold old main the best part they chased us off of the old main lawn we walked across the road to the hub lawn and did the same stuff incredible except my friend eddie did jump off of a balcony and into a bush had to get like several stitches in his hand yeah so he was a steelers fan
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The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
The Steelers fans were as excited as we are. Some random girl who was a Patriots fan tried to, like, we were all having a big snowball fight, and, like, I didn't even throw one that hard at her. Like, I just kind of lobbed one, and it hit her in, like, the arm, and she decked me. I was just caught off guard. I fell over. Her boyfriend comes over. He's like, I'm so sorry. She was a Patriots fan.
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Boyfriend comes over. He's like, I'm so sorry, dude.
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It's just running through our veins. We've got to let it out now and then.
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Imagine if you took that away. Also, we're just really good at taking down dynasties.
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Dude, all the Avengers Endgame edits that I saw on TikTok before that game, there was not a doubt in my mind. Yeah. I was like, oh, this is... Here's the thing. I expected Saquon Barkley to win that game. Jalen Hurts won that game. Yeah. I have been... I will admit, I have been a hater since the beginning. Yeah. Jalen Hurts was drafted, and I was like, what a boneheaded move, Howie. You dumbass.
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And then Jalen Hurts did not do very well his first season, and I was like, start Flacco. I literally was like, start Flacco. Whoever was sitting behind Flacco, I wanted them to start him too. Maybe it was like Sudfeld. I don't know. Studfeld, you mean? Yeah. I was like, bring back Wentz, go grab Foles wherever he's at. Yeah. I hated Hurts. I... He played his ass off. Oh, yeah.
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I still think he should not be in the conversation with... This is a weird thing. He should not be in the conversation with Lamar, Burrow, and Allen. He should be in the conversation with Mahomes. And I don't mean that Mahomes is better than Lamar, Burrow, and Allen. But Jalen Hurts is as good as Patrick Mahomes, and it's not a question. Patrick Mahomes is just goofy running Jalen Hurts.
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He went home after that and got spanked by Miss Piggy. Well, here's the thing. I'm not talking about Brittany Mahomes. I'm talking about Miss Piggy.
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Also, Hurts can't. Here's the other thing that's been pissing me off about Hurts the last two years. Hurts can't run as well as Hurts can. Season one and two Hurts, dude was speedy. It would have been like having two Barclays. He's slow now. Yeah, but he still gets the job done. He does. It's kind of like McNabb. He's like a shorter McNabb. Shorter? Pretty sure McNabb was like 6'4". Wow.
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McNabb, dude. Keep doing the super chats.
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There were, Oh, wow. McNabb was shorter than I remembered. He was six, two, but he was 240 pounds. Yeah.
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It ended in tears for Kansas City. Which, honestly, bitch made. Bro, you beat your brother two years ago, and he didn't cry. Yeah, he was just proud. I think he knew he was going to that hotel room, and he was going to have a bad night. He was going to get tied to the bed face down. It was Taylor Swift with like an oar to a canoe or something. I don't know. To a canoe? Whack him a bunch of times.
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So, factoring into it, remember there was the point in the episode where I said that he seemed to genuinely be under the impression that he had co-authored a book with Jessup?
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It's like, you feeling like 22 tonight? Feeling like 22 tonight, Travis? Oh, yeah. Call her daddy. I'm surprised. Has she been on that? I don't know which is astonishing considering Kamala Harris. Kamala Harris has been. Yeah. I said astonish and then Kamala Harrison.
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We're working on it. We're shooting it very soon. See, here's the problem. You guys wanted a sexy calendar. You're going to get a calendar. Yep. Turns out, aging does not make it easier to get in shape. No, it's going to be ironic. We should have done this over the summer when we were in better shape. Yeah. You're going to see us in cut-off jean shorts, sleeveless flannels open.
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It's going to be hot. For someone.
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Oh, yeah, that was my thinking. Like, as I got through it, I was like, well, the experiment itself is kind of lame, but the story is wild.
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I wouldn't be surprised if he read and annotated some of Einstein's work and got it into his head that he co-authored something with Einstein.
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I feel like we ignored a lot of that comment. Oh, no, we took it. The big balls part? We took it in stride. Okay. I just was so nonchalant about it. Okay. Just got to take it in stride. Yeah. Okay.
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Awesome. Thank you. I look forward to reading it. As for size, anything over three inches would be way too big for me, personally. Yep. Depends.
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Is it a box with a ring in it so that you can propose to one of us? Easy tiger.
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The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
The way he definitely had some sort of learning disorder, the way it's talked about, he was extremely bright. struggled with social situations, definitely had some probably issues discerning reality from delusion. So I think he probably had maybe schizophrenia.
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I don't hate that one. I guess I love I love the one where it was like, who knew that the refs were being paid by USAID? Yeah, literally. Oh, my God.
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Why'd you do it? Which camera is it? I don't know.
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I'm very confused now. I am so tired. And this is really pushing me to the edge. Closer than six feet? Hold me now. I need a trusted adult.
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I'm sure there's ways to do it. I mean, yeah, we have ships that are radar absorbing and deflecting now. Yeah. They figured out that it's easier to make something divert radar and absorb it than it is to make something invisible to it in the way they were trying to.
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Oh, yeah, no, if you look at modern, like, the battleship, like, not battleships, but the ships we're building now, they are very anti-radar. Yeah.
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If you look at the fact that there are three people talking in that document, but he's aware that there's three people talking in that document and that they're all him. If it was dissociative identity disorder, I don't know that he would have picked up on that. That was all him. But I would not be surprised also if he had voices talking to him.
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Does he go into the same stuff, though? Like the Atlantis and Lemuria stuff? I don't know. Worth looking into. What was it called?
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Dude, I think it's so funny that the Eagles had their backups in with three minutes left in the Super Bowl. Yeah. They did the Gatorade. Our backups got to say, we played in the Super Bowl. Not we won a Super Bowl. We played in it. Yeah. Not rare that one or two get to say that. All of them? Yeah, that's pretty awesome.
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I am very much looking forward to when I get a chance to go through that story, the way Michael Heiser breaks it down. Because I... It is truly incredible.
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Yeah, it is. Most people understand that the Bible has a lot of symbolism and metaphor. The amount of symbolism and metaphor within that one verse is insane. And also, you know, he also made a very interesting point that it's possible that that Satan and Satan are different things. Yep. Which is really interesting as well. The idea that basically this is, you know, there is a Satan...
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That is the big one. And then there are also, throughout the Bible, little individual Satans, meaning adversaries. The challenger, I think, right? Yeah, the challenger, the opposer, the adversary.
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I look forward to getting into a more organized deep dive into it.
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Anybody can come join the ranch. It's not a cult.
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I disagree with your perspective that if we don't call it a cult, it will be a cult.
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How dare you defy the Messiah? I think you haven't seen History Unhinged yet, by the way. Check out History Unhinged. That is a reference. That is a reference to it.
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actually no it was the drunk folklore one it was the liquored lore oh yes yeah if you haven't seen our most recent liquor here's a good excuse for you guys to go spend a dollar on the patreon yes the most recent liquor lore is the two of us and steven bell stucco history of everything that guy it's it's a lot of fun it is it's a great time i hope he can do more of them with us because i would be very surprised if he doesn't do more of them with us yeah that would be fun
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It's on my bookshelf. I have been leafing through it. But again, I take psychic damage every time I open it. I gotta read this book. Are the Japanese okay? That is my question. Maybe two bombs was too many bombs. Or maybe it wasn't enough bombs.
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So, yeah, there are a variety of different things. If he was that bad, I think he would have ended up in an asylum. Especially being in the military. Where was he? That's the thing. He's all over the place. Yeah. That might be why. He never stayed in one place long enough. But, yeah, so this is a guy who definitely had some issues.
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It was either too many or not enough. Because it gave us some weird cartoons.
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It could have been a fluke. You know, it did kill less people than the firebombing campaign did. That is the scary part. I see a lot of people talk about that, and they're like, well, we killed millions of people. We killed 200,000 with the bombs. The firebombing campaigns? Those were worse. We destroyed Dresden in Germany. It basically didn't exist. I just meant the firebombing in Tokyo.
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Yeah, I like how there's borderline adult content on here that remains fully monetized. But if we mention...
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Well, that's what you get for building your houses out of paper. Yeah. Well, to be fair, they didn't expect fire to drop from the sky. Well, maybe they should have. They tried to drop fire out of the sky on us. They were just going to do it with lanterns. It didn't work great. What's wild is the fact that Germany was just launching ICBMs at Britain. Yeah, we think today's nuts, but whoa.
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They were legitimately ICBMs. They got into space. I didn't know they went that high. They got past the Karnan Belt. Wow. Yep, one of them did at least. That's my point. These were capable of getting into quote-unquote outer space, and they were launching them from Germany to Britain.
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Yeah. Like, what was the point, man? I also think it's very funny that we were like, we're going to use that to take pictures. Yeah. We won the war in 1947. We're like, I bet that could take pictures from really high. and then we did. That's so wholesome. We won't talk about all the unwholesome things we did. We won't talk about the fact that it was the same people doing it.
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He seemed to believe, and he said this later in life, I didn't get to go into it, and that's why this episode is called Carl Allen and the most whatever hoax of all time. Because I wanted to talk about Carl Allen. Interesting guy. Seems to have been relatively harmless later in life.
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Just tell all of the people, no, no, no, no, they're not German, they're just Amish.
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Well, I mean, granted, you gotta... When you think about the fact that everybody was getting home from World War II, you kind of understand why they were so willing to believe in the horrors.
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Not really my thing. The York Rite is what I'm interested in and getting to the Knights Templar spot, but I keep trying to find opportunities to do those degrees and they just don't exist. They get done like two or three times a year and I don't hear about them. It's been very frustrating.
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So I'll also admit that there's been some stuff I've been told recently that's had me, you know, wanting to get some questions answered that people will not answer for me because you're supposed to, you know, go along the path the proper way. So yeah, I mean, there's... It's weird. There have been a lot of very positive things. The community is incredible. Unfortunately, the...
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The process has been slow. And just to be clear, you know, I've said this a million times, but just in case people don't know, you will never hear me talk badly about Freemasonry, but if I come across something that I... I... that I feel conflicts with my faith, I will leave. So... Just to give you an idea of where I'm at.
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I am a... I'm a devout Christian, so... I've said a million times, if I come across something in Freemasonry that is core to what Freemasonry is, and it conflicts with my Christian faith, I will leave. So if you see me leave Freemasonry, there's a good chance that's the reason why. If that's not the reason why, I'll probably tell you what it was.
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There was a woman who worked at the nursing home that he lived at in his later years that I believe was paid for by his brothers. Yeah. even though his brothers couldn't stand him. But they wanted to keep him safe. He was their older brother. They were taking care of him. He was crazy Uncle Carl.
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It's just like I didn't have time or something like that. But... I am looking forward to progressing in it. It's been frustrating that I've been unable to simply because of scheduling issues. I do need to get a meeting this week. Yeah, I do. I think. Is this the second? Yeah, this is the second Wednesday of the month.
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Sorry. We're coming up on the second Wednesday of the month. So, you know, I'll be going to a meeting. I'm going to ask some questions about how I can push ahead. But it's been frustrating. I really like a lot about masonry. I am struggling with the process, though.
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Because until I get through the process, I won't actually know if anything that people are telling me, and these are well-meaning people for the most part. You know, I've had some great conversations, some with people who were 32nd degree and Templars and everything, but I don't know yet. So... I have to see for myself.
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Um, I'm not going to be the kind of person who just believes what someone else says about it. I want to see for myself. Um, that's all I can really say.
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You're just obfuscating the truth to keep it secret. If I tell you, then you're not listening to me because I'm a Freemason. If I don't tell you and you find out, then I was lying. And that means Freemasons lie. It's a lose-lose. I'm trying my best, guys.
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There were a lot of Freemasons who would tell you that.
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Any validity to that? No. Go on. The Knights Templar are definitely older than Freemasonry. All the stuff about Freemasonry going back to ancient Egypt. Total BS. Especially because even within our fraternity, it only goes back to Solomon's Temple.
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Like the 900s BC. The idea is that the first Freemasons were involved in that. By the way, all of this is printed, published material. Everybody thinks that it's all kept, like all the rituals are kept secret and we keep them secret because we don't want people realizing we're doing secret weird gay shit. We're not. We do that publicly. Anyway, point is, all of it's published.
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So this woman who spent a lot of time with him later in life actually ended up writing this book with her son. Her son then passed away before the book was published, and so she finished the book as kind of an ode to him. And in that book, she describes knowing Carl Allen and some of the conversations they would have, mentioned that he looked very old for being born when he was,
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There's a lot of mythology to it, but what a lot of people outside of it don't understand that a lot of people inside of it do is that it is purely allegory in almost every case. There are very few instances where Freemasonry looks to actual history.
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It is primarily either, in the first three degrees, biblical allegory, or as you get further into the Scottish Rite, they do derive some lessons from various faith traditions, even though they do maintain, at least for the most part, like the primary writers, do maintain that the Christian god is the one they worship. So...
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I get why Catholics don't like it, but since it's not a religion, it's kind of, like... The idea that anything that comes from outside of Christianity is bad is silly. And it's not Christian, either. You know, it's... Anything outside of God, like... is not great, but just cause something, just cause a story came from something other than Christianity doesn't inherently make it evil.
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And that was the topic of the podcast on Thursday was what is evil. So yeah, Check out Weird Bible. Yeah, Weird Bible's great.
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In terms of, like, creepy... Bart Schleyer and then Nahani. In terms of, oh my God, how are you this bad at your job? Amber Takaro.
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You're actually getting a lot of Canada.
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There's another Canada one coming out on Friday.
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I was going to say, Nahani wants you? I do want to go to Nahani. Yeah, I want to go so badly. Oh my God, it's gorgeous. Oh, it's beautiful. Yeah. Like, it's one of those places that you look at it and you go, I can't believe this is on Earth.
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Oh, well, we got a call from somebody who said that, you know, she's doing just fine. She's down the road. She's hanging out with her friends. She's just fine. No, no, no. They were anonymous. No, we didn't try to get any further information, no.
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Just like he was definitely going through it throughout his life. I. I lost my train of thought. Damn, where was I?
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Yeah, well, you have a nice day. Sorry. Eh. Goodbye. You want some leftovers from dinner? You want to stop over at Tim Hortons?
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Something about Justin Trudeau. Something. Something. You can't tell what I think about him. It's just something. Trying to think of a joke and I can't, none of them are coming to mind. Oh, that got a little Irish. Sounds like you need a coffee. Yeah, it honestly makes sense that the Canadian accent has some Irish and Scottish in it. It's more Irish and Scottish than ours is.
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kpg which is the cretaceous paleogene i would think that's probably what it is also known as the kt so maybe that that's probably what it is and flying reptiles oh i like how youtube sends me a twitter dm at 8 57 p.m and is like please fill this out within the next hour we can't help you
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Oh, yeah, I think I was just going over who the guy was as a person. So, yeah, I think he had this idea. Right, that's where I was. He had this idea that he had written this thing with Einstein. He had this idea he had written this thing with Jessup.
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What is the Mokulmembe? I've personally never heard of these things. This is new to me. I was a dinosaur kid.
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I've never heard of them before. This is new to me.
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Let me see if I can... What was the makamembe or whatever spelled?
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In the meantime... Oh, it's from Bantu mythology.
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Interesting. It's kind of like... It looks like it's kind of like a Loch Ness Monster situation. Got it, got it, got it.
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We'll bring it to you as a birthday present. Tyler Dowd. Wild and foaming at the mouth. I'm not getting close to the thing. Am I? I don't know. You're a little harder. You're a little smaller framed. Might be easier for you to dodge.
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I think a lot of people gave him too much credit for how in control he was because I think, given at the time that it was, probably didn't occur to them, to his parents and people around him, that this was...
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My favorite is that one story about how the one dude got the Wendigo. Which was? It was Nanabujou. The little story about him just yeeting a javelin into its rump. Oh, like Saul. Yeah. Well, damn. That is, first of all, the accuracy. Incredible, but.
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Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, no, don't get me wrong. The Jessup story is a tragedy. I know we made a little bit of fun of some of the circumstances, but, like, I mean, I feel bad for the guy.
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Yeah. I mean, here's the other thing is we, and part of the reason that I mentioned this at the beginning of that segment, that it was a different time. We hadn't even gotten into space yet. is because I think today we look at it and we go, oh, well, all of this is silly. Or at least a lot of this is silly. But at the time, they just didn't know as much. You know?
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They did not know as much about the world. So it's fair to ask further questions, and you kind of have to look at some of these books and lectures and things like that and go, okay, well, they were dealing with less information than we have. So it's not as insane. But at the same time, like, the fact that he let his life be destroyed by that is unfortunate.
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legitimate issue and that maybe he was just being a little goofy and didn't want to focus uh based on the way that they talked about him that sounds like what it is it was all very dismissive like yeah carl sends us this stuff every now and then and don't get me wrong i don't blame his parents they couldn't possibly have known any better yeah what time frame is this again he was born in 1925 yeah so there's only so much people today if he had been born in 2000 he would have been in special ed like he would add an iep um or a giep probably yeah
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That's been the one that I've been having to hold my tongue on is like, would you work for free? No, you wouldn't. Not unless... Why do you expect me to? Every one of my needs was taken care of otherwise. I think people get the idea in their heads that we pick a specific topic for the sake of trying to make the most money possible.
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And in some cases, I look at something like, oh, that's going to do well. Let's do it. But we're not... I don't avoid doing a topic because I think another topic will make more money. If I think a topic can make us what we need to make to hit our numbers for the month, I'll do it. And sometimes we even take risks.
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But at the same time, we got to hit a certain number each month to continue operating. This studio is expensive.
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We've never done a story that at least one of us didn't want to do. And also, the reason I didn't want to do Philadelphia Experiment had nothing to do with the money. It was entirely that I just read all of the material and I was like, I am going to hate this. And I kept pushing him.
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And then YouTube was like, no. Because you said the wrong word too many times, even though we never told you how many times you could say it. Yeah. So I'm pushing for clarification on that. Because I really would like to avoid using terms like unalive and self-delete. YouTube, our entire audience, is between the ages of 18 and, like, dead. Dead. We don't have a very large youth audience.
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I would understand if we were glorifying it. But we weren't.
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Yeah, I can see it. Yeah. That's what he's looked like most of the time I've known him.
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I need to get a haircut. This is Thursday. Yeah, I was going to say, you got it coming soon. So ready. This is a mop. I haven't had my hair cut since November. It's been that long? Yeah, it was like, I think, right before we went to Tennessee. Oh, wow. It was either right before or right after Tennessee. Wow. That's wild. Yeah, right before. Because I remember I had short hair in the video.
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a self-driven effort to remove oneself from the world well done uh that's not okay yeah even though we've done it before many times i i like how the the appeal process they're like we've manually reviewed this and found that we are right and i'm like well you're not but is there a number of times i can use this word in a video like give me some degree some degree of uh
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That could be a cool one. I mean, if you want to tell them to talk to us, I mean, we'll reach out, but sometimes it helps if you pop in. Like, that's how we got in touch with Isaiah, with Wendigoon. Yeah. A bunch of people popped into his comment sections and were like, you should talk to the Lorelai. A bunch of people popped into my comment sections and were like, you should talk to Wendigoon.
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Also, wild thing, I'm realizing now that at the time those conversations happened, he had less than a million subscribers. Yeah. Because I remember he and I had similar subscriber counts, but I was on TikTok, he was on YouTube. Yeah. Wow. That's nuts. That means we're the size he was. Yeah. That's crazy. That's nuts. That'll tell you how fast his channel's grown. Oh, yeah.
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Anyway, he got it into his head that this technology, even if the Philadelphia experiment wasn't what he said it was, that this technology was real. that it could put us in trouble, that it could cause serious catastrophe, and that if it were to proliferate, a lot of people would be hurt in the process of advancing it.
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I mean, he had 600 and some thousand, I think, the first time we had him on for a podcast episode.
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While we read the last Super Chat, you want to come say hi? Come on.
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I would think the conspiracy version.
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I have seen videos of workable active camouflage. It's definitely got a long way to go. But I've been seeing that pop up on, like, Science Channel, Discovery, things like that my entire life. And it's been getting better.
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I think there will be practical applications. I don't think that it would be something that would be used by the Navy, because so much of warfare now is not even at visual range. I mean, we were watching the simulations of F-35s fighting F-22s, and the F-35s were taking shots... they were locking on before the F 22 pilots could even see.
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And I had no idea how advanced the F-22 was.
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So he even explained that at one point, I forget to whom, but his whole thing was, you know, I was trying to warn Jessup about this. I didn't want, I was telling him all of these things so that he would stop pushing for more disclosure, because he genuinely feared what would come of it. Later in life, he goes ahead and says, you know, I was wrong. I've changed my mind on that.
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Are you going to be saying bye-bye? Bye-byes? Okay.
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Oh, it goes. So you're now why the U S doesn't have free healthcare. I loved one of my favorites has been the, I've seen a number of tick tocks of, uh, I'm trying to be as racially sensitive as possible in saying this. This is not meant to be offensive in any way. But of people from Mexico talking about how Trump is underestimating the cartels. And this is not me being pro-Trump.
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This is not me being anti-Mexico. This is really just me being realistic about the capabilities of the U.S. military. The cartels will disappear before they know we're coming. They would be vaporized into a red mist before they knew we were at war. Yeah. Like when you see what the U.S. military has.
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Have you watched any of the videos of vets from Afghanistan and Iraq talking about the rules of engagement they had to follow? Oh, yeah, just how they were handcuffed the whole time. I was watching a sniper who was talking about it, and he was like, I had to fire a warning shot. Even if the guy was armed and in an enemy compound, I had to fire a warning shot.
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And then if he didn't appear to notice, I had to fire a second warning shot closer. And then only after the person realized they were being shot at and had an opportunity to surrender was I allowed to shoot them. And I think it was on Sean Ryan, if I'm not mistaken. But the sniper, he asked him, you know, how many people who you did this to, how many of them laid down their arms?
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he was like i just had to waste an entire mag to shoot one person and whoever it was i think it was sean ryan but it might not have been the other guys like they probably didn't even realize you were giving them warning shots they probably just thought you were missing it's like no they'll it's crazy what they had to do i think if we do end up having to fight the car if we end up fighting the cartels i think you'll see the deployment of exosuits for the first time
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You know, it'll be. That is an enemy that we could be like, yeah, we can use some fun stuff with you. Yeah. We can test out some things because you're not Russia.
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Also, Fat Electrician has a great Twitter thread on this about how the United States won in Vietnam. Like, we established the independence of the South. And then we left in 1973. The fall of Saigon was 1975. We were out of there. Our military was not in Vietnam. Those people you see being evac'd on a helicopter are diplomats. And they're guards.
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Like, I don't think that it was all that big of a deal. But at that point, the damage has been done. On top of that, these guys, Berlitz and Moore, who I guess somebody pointed out in the comments section, I didn't know this. I think it was William B. Moore, was eventually like ostracized from the UFOlogist community because he was actively spreading disinformation on purpose.
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Like... The fact that I had to learn that from a Twitter thread, because I am not a 21st century historian by or 20th century historian by any stretch. I know a little bit. I know about the things I look into specifically. The fact that I had to learn that the United States actually won the Vietnam War from the fat electrician on Twitter.
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Yeah. That's all. Desert Storm is probably the best example. Also, Iraqi freedom.
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Like, the fight against the actual Iraqi military... Yeah, that's the U.S. not holding back. And the other thing is, with Vietnam, that was a war the United States had never fought before. We have now fought against people who hide out in caves in the desert for 20 years. I don't think there's a single Tier 1 operator out there who's afraid of the cartels.
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I don't think there's a single Army Ranger out there who's afraid of the cartels. And your average Marine is probably just excited about the Latinas. Can you blame them? Yeah. I mean, I can't. I get it. You know, you're a Marine. You want two things, three things probably, and those are going to be you're going to want access to the bars so you can try some tequila.
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You're going to want some leave so you can go mingle with the locals. And you're going to want a steady supply of crayons for snack time.
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That's very kind. You're better at it than YouTube.
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Yeah, definitely. Like Drunk Folklore and stuff like that. Well, Drunk Folklore goes on both. Right. But Patreon, if you're at the $5 tier or above, there are gifts that you get. It does take three months. It does take three months because the gifts actually cost us three months of your membership. Yeah.
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Also, just to be clear, if you do it and you do it for three months just to get the swag, I understand. It's probably going to be cheaper and more efficient to just buy through Bunker. Yeah. Because they make the nicer stuff anyway. Yeah. So the Patreon stuff is more meant to be a bonus for your continuing subscription. If you want the really nice merch that we have, go through Bunker.
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Very reasonably priced. American made. American designed. You are supporting us. You're supporting American industry. No downsides.
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We probably could just do it, but... We could. We just need to make sure we hit the right monetization thing. Here's what I'll say, honestly. We would love to cross-post to Rumble. I'd love to cross-post to Odyssey. Odyssey is not... There's nothing weird about them, right? First I'm hearing of it. It's just another YouTube clone.
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I didn't get there through it. I was like, oh, that's interesting. What do you know? But it doesn't surprise me. It's the same thing we've talked about Chan Thomas. Chan Thomas, to me, seems like he was probably similar to Carl Allen. Just a guy who got some weird things into his head and got really intense about it.
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I want to be clear that when I say we'd love to work with Odyssey, if they have gone into some sort of weird political rabbit hole, that's news to me. I just want to have the videos on as many platforms as possible. We're looking to put them on X.
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would do rumble i i will say this much if rumble wants our videos we're happy to put them there but it would very much help us if somebody from rumble reached out and sat down with us and had a meeting uh because as it stands right now it's just confusing yeah i mean yeah
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That would probably do a lot, but we need to figure out how to make Rumble work.
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I have to listen to orchestral music while I work. I'll listen to scores and symphonic metal and stuff like that. I cannot have words.
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A lot of Two Steps from Hell. Two Steps from Hell was one of my top artists on Spotify last year.
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You'll have to show it to me after the show. You'll know it immediately. Thank you, Maggles, for upgrading your membership. That was kind of you. William Martin said for 20 Philadelphia Experiment reimbursement because YouTube is lame. Oh, I know this one. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I feel like Eckhart's Ladder uses that a lot.
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Does it speed up and have a beat to it at some point? It doesn't speed up, but it does get a backbeat. I think that it is the same one, yeah.
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We just went through the list of donation goals, and we are going to be trying to do them this summer, the ones that can be done. We forgot how many we did. There were like 30. Yeah.
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Some just not doable. Yeah. But the doable ones we're thinking we're going to do and we'll probably put them either on... Yet another channel, or maybe over on Aiden Mattis. We might be rebranding that channel a little bit. I don't know how exactly, but... Yeah, we'll figure it out. Initially, the Aiden Mattis channel was going to be my independent thing.
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It now just feeds the Lore Lodge, feeds Redacted, so I'm going to do whatever with that.
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And then we will probably bring them back. There will probably be one a month, and it will probably be a lot higher. But the nice thing is we actually have that little goal button now. Oh, yeah. So we can put that in there. That'd be fun. Which does make it easier.
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uh super chat so much but i want to go to bed i know right um you guys are the best i mean that though you guys are seriously the best literally though uh gone for two dollars says windowsy for the windowsy tier list video fund oh but it jumped oh no oh no oh my oh it really jumped hang on a second how many more okay no okay we were almost to the end
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Barnes and Noble? The bookstore? Yeah. Your local book. I mean, KJVs are all going to be the same. Yeah. I mean, you might get different study editions. Like, I have a Ryrie that I like for the most part. every once in a while I find something in it that I'm like, I don't think that's right. It's mostly with historical information, though. Not so much with the scriptural stuff.
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Here's what I would say. Pick up a KJV. I can grab one at basically any bookstore. They're all going to be the same in terms of the material. I suggest getting a red letter because they're a little bit easier to discern when Jesus is talking. But use that as your reading Bible and then get Logos Bible software and use that as your study Bible.
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Because as you're reading your KJV, you are inevitably going to come to things where you're like, hmm? What? What does that mean? And then you can open up Logos, and what's really cool is that you can, within Logos, it comes with the Lexam translation, which is awesome. I love it. Very solid, literal translation.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
It's easy enough to read, and what's really nice is you can click on a word, and it will show you all of the places in the Bible that that word appears. And it goes with the original, the Greek, the Hebrew, whatever it is. And it will help you with definitions. You can cross-reference. You can see, okay, well, what was this here? What was this there?
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
And then if you pay to add in the King James, which is cheap because it's a digital edition, if you pay to add in the King James, then what you can do is you can actually have one here and one here, and you can directly compare between the two of them. So I think that is the future of Bible study. I can't say enough nice things about Logos, so I would recommend checking that out.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
Yeah. What's really shocking is how similar his stuff was to Jessup's, too. I mean, that's what was fascinating to me about looking into Jessup, and I'm glad I did this first, because as I've been trying to write that Ancient Aliens video, like how Ancient Aliens lies to you, as I've been trying to work that one out, I keep struggling with where do I start. It starts with Jessup.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
Here's the one thing. Last time we gave you guys a thumbnail that was a little bit more aggressive and artistic. None of you realized it was a Lore Lodge video. And there were a bunch of comments that were like, this showed up in my feed five times before I realized it was a Lore Lodge video. Was it the Axeman one? It was the Axeman one when we used Wendigoon's thumbnail guy.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
And it was a great thumbnail, but nobody realized it was us. So, you know, we've been talking with our partner manager. They're suggesting that we try, you know, A-B testing some new thumbnail styles, which pisses me off because I feel like I finally nailed it. But... we're going to try a few things, but if we do end up changing things, it will probably be gradual. Yeah.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
That like the size of the text will change for a couple of weeks. And then maybe the orientation of something will change so that you guys have some runway to realize that we are changing our thumbnail style and we don't end up in a situation where people are like, wait, this is the lore lodge. Oh, cool.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
uh-huh that's great to hear actually i i appreciate it it's been a an interesting experience to say the least also what did paul do what's wrong with joe who's joe what's wrong with joe yeah who the hell is joe are you understanding the reference i'm making yeah you're not understanding the one i'm making I guess you weren't up there for it.
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The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
One of the jokes that we had with that was I... So in college, I very briefly had a band called What's Wrong With Joe. Yeah. Which itself, we were like trying to figure out a name for the band. And I texted my cousin and I was like, hey, do you have any ideas? And she goes, I'll ask my friends. And her friend Joe gave a whole bunch of really wild names. And I just responded, what's wrong with Joe?
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
And then I realized... That was a great band name. But the thing was, people would ask who Joe was, and I didn't know Joe.
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The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
So it just became a joke. It'd be like, well, who the hell is Joe? Yeah. What is wrong with Joe? Who's Joe? You should bring back Joe back. I don't know him. Well, there's nothing wrong with him. Maybe the new cover band can be What's Wrong With Joe. Yeah, I think so. Or it should be Nothing's Wrong With Joe. Did you hear somebody moving? I think Amanda's tired of me not being at home.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
Because of the implication. Oh, boy. You can tell it's getting late.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
But no, you're right. We're feeling it come, and we're trying to figure out how to contain it in the right way. Stop it. Stop. After the video we recorded today? Stop. Okay, yeah, that's a good point. I want to be so very abundantly clear right now. The video you're going to see on Friday, those are all their real names.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
Believe it or not, it starts with Jessup.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
And it was not intended to be comedic. I had trouble reading it. It is a very serious topic. You're going to be like, how did Aiden get through this with a straight face? And the answer is that there were a lot of takes. There were a lot of takes.
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The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
It's going to feel like I'm trying to yank your chain, and I'm not. There is also a lot of transatlantic accent. Not like an overwhelming amount of transatlantic accent. Yeah, you kind of just did that. It felt right if we were quoting gangsters, and not like gangstas, gangsters. Yeah. Here, see? Yeah, see?
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The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
This man is just a torso, see?
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
It's appropriately sized. It will be grueling. Or no, exhausting. Whatever the hell the word was. You represent a small foreign faction.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
No, I did not have a good time writing this story. I did not have a good time filming this story, and I did not have a good time watching YouTube throttle this story.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
Like we said, we want to get back to that episode. There are several JonBenet Ramsey references in this video, by the way.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
Thank you. Very much appreciate it. That genuinely is the way you guys can help us the most to get to the point where we can just ignore the algorithm. Yeah. If we can bring in the necessary funds from Patreon to run the business, we can do whatever the hell we want.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
Yeah. I'm still trying to figure out how to not be the only person that does what I do.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
You're going to need somebody to just watch. We're going to have to like clockwork orange somebody to all of our videos. Yeah. Just like it's just it takes they're going to show up and it's going to look like me.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
I've seen Dallas Cowboys fans walking around New England.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
I had a bad seven days. I have not been a happy man. Yeah, so it all starts with Jessup, because Jessup talks about all this Atlantis and Lemuria and Mew, but he's the first one I've ever seen who directly connects this with Aliens. There's other people who talked about Atlantis and knew. I mean, Ignatius Donnelly was doing it in the 1860s. Plato was doing it in like the 400s. Yeah.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
Yeah, he's just he's doing some recon. Now, see, here's the difference between, you know, Philadelphia travels really well. I don't know if you guys watch the Super Bowl. It was a home game. They booed Jon Hamm and cheered for Bradley Cooper, and you could tell. Also, everybody's like, why are they booing Taylor Swift? It's not because she's Taylor Swift.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
It's because she's a famous Eagles fan who has been wearing Chiefs gear for the last two years. Nobody was booing Taylor Swift because she was there. They were booing Taylor Swift because of the betrayal.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
I nearly have you ever been around for the aphasia? No. Norman has class once. Really? Yeah. I looked over. I think I've told the story a few times, but I was sitting. It was like Norman, I think, was here. I was here. Sedona was here. And Mikhail was here. And I saw the spot in my vision. I did my thing where I held up my finger and I was like moving my finger across my field of vision.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
And I know where my blind spot is. It's about right here. I don't know where my blind spot is not. Everybody does have a blind spot. Yeah. And I was like, oh, OK, it's gone and it's back and it's gone. And I was like, yep, migraine coming. I looked over at Norman and I go, OK, sometime within the next five minutes, I'm going to lose the ability to speak. And he goes, what?
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
And I went, I'm having a migraine. It's starting right now. Sometime in the next five minutes, I'll be able to talk, but I will not be able to control what words are coming out of my mouth. That doesn't mean I have Tourette's. That means I'll think I'm saying one thing and other words will come out. And he was like, okay. I go, I just, if I get called on, I need you to explain the situation.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
And he goes, okay. And that worked because Norman and I have been friends since we were seven years old.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
Yeah. She cannot do this one. Fair. Continue.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
Yeah, fair. You want me to send you a signed picture of myself so that you can show it to him? Might as well. I'm going to need to take some headshots. Can we take, like, really 2007 headshots?
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
You found Aiden's channel. Yep. The question is, have you seen the music video we made to Linkin Park?
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
We got to remake those. We should.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
Uh, yeah, those are, that was like one of the first times you and I spent time together. Yeah.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
That's a fair point. He's definitely given us enough in super chats to have earned a signed calendar. You can have that. Yeah. You will sign every page if you want. We might add that in as like a $50 Patreon to your reward too.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
I did not know that lactose tolerance was a European thing. I wonder why that is. I remember there was a reason for it, but apparently lactose is like most people are lactose intolerant.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
Maybe the person I was listening to was full of it.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
It's like 80% of people of European ancestry can tolerate lactose better than the rest of the world. So when you have a lactose intolerant white person, it's weird, but most people actually have the same issues with milk.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
From what I understand, it is the extent to which we did domesticate cattle. Yeah. But...
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
I'm pretty sure it's specifically like cows.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
Plato wasn't talking about aliens. Ignatius Donnelly was very much on the Tartaria line of thought. You get to Jessup, and he's like, the pyramids. Aha. I actually don't think he mentions the pyramids in the book, but his whole thing is there was this advanced civilization, and it had come down here through the aliens, and that's what you really need to understand.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
Yeah. It's like sheep and goats milk, I think, are more tolerable for most people.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
But also milk specifically.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
and sued takes for 199 said could you leave could you please do the 50 shades cause 9-11 spiel uh well that's in the first facts you can get that very early in the first episode of history unhinged so if you had asked me two weeks ago i would have done it right now but instead i'm going to tell you there's a clip of it on history unhinged
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
If you go over to that channel and go to that clip, I will run through the whole thing for you. But it is also, I think, exceedingly early in the full episode.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
So I would tell you to go take a look at History Unhinged for that. Sorry. But I have to take the opportunity to market the new show.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
We're really proud of it. We had so much fun shooting it. We think you guys are going to have a lot of fun as it progresses. Yeah. Because from the first episode on, it picks up. Yeah. Oh, 100%. The first episode... kind of found our footing, and then we shot three more. Yep. And we're shooting even more in a couple of weeks.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
I would love to talk to him, have him on. I think that that would be a great opportunity. We're all in. I love his stuff. I actually watched his video on the Philadelphia Experiment as a way of deciding, like, all right, I literally was like... Philadelphia Experiment YouTube search. Looking through everything. I see the Y files. I go, he's who I need to be better than. Yep.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
Literally, that was my thing. My video, in order for it to be worth posting, needs to be better than his. And I want to be clear, that should be taken as a compliment.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
That is not me being like, this is trash. That was me... Wait, wait, wait. Can you do that one more time?
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The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
Okay. I don't like, Now I'm nerfed. Now I'm back. Now I can do it. I can do it. What did I say? It was like a compliment. It's not even like, ha ha ha, this is trash. Yes. I got you. I got you.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
We got some more Aiden Mattis out of context images that are going to become emotes in the Discord. I have a lot of respect for what AJ does. I think Hecklefish is a very funny character.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
very funny sidekick as well so no i would love to have him on also i would uh somebody i'd love to have on for unhinged is um mandatory fun day have you seen his stuff not a lot he's uh army i think okay he makes a lot of military related content nice i'll show you the chip of the hand grenade says mattis i've been collecting them i believe you
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
That's where all of these things... He does mention the pyramids, actually, another thing about it. The pyramids were the result of advanced alien technology.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
Dude. That game would have been like 55-22. Not even. It would have been like 55-16. The amount of times we caused them negative yardage on a down. Patrick Mahomes had 33 yards passing in the first half. Yep. I lost money. Because I overestimated Patrick Mahomes. And I didn't even really overestimate him that much.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
Like, the lowest amount I could bet for the over-under on the score for the Chiefs, without basically just betting money to lose it, because there was no advantage to it, was 16.5 points. minimum 16 and a half points. So I put like $25 on the chief scoring at least 16 and a half points. It took them until we had our backups in. I also, I had a Patrick Mahomes.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
Yeah. I'm trying to think what else I had on there. I think I had Xavier Worthy scoring the first touchdown of the game. Is this the first time Vegas didn't know? Might be. Because I was like, wow, this is... Yeah, historically. I don't want to hear. Here's the thing. I don't want to hear a single word about the AFC ever again. Oh, yeah. Because all for years.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
Oh, the AFC is so much tougher than the NFC. The AFC is so much harder. Jalen Hurts is 14 and what? Two against AFC teams. And he just blew, we just blew out the, you know, as far as the NFL would have us believe, the best team in the AFC. Yeah. Blew him out. In the Super Bowl. In the Super Bowl. That looks like, that score looks like the Commander's score from the championship game. Yeah.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
He kind of talks about other people's theories, but I don't think he talks about anybody else tying it together the way that he has.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
If we keep the starters in. I don't know why we pulled them. So that way they could dominate in this game? Yeah, maybe. But no, I mean, I don't know why we pulled the starters in Super Bowl. Oh. We should have run the score up. I get it. You don't want to risk anyone getting hurt. You could have kept the starting skill players in and put Pickett in.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
Yeah, I think it was more so that everybody got their turn to play. That's what I think it is, too. It was like, ah, I'll let him take some snaps in the Super Bowl. Yeah. Let Will Shipley run the ball. Yeah, exactly. Let him earn their ring. Yeah, let him earn their ring a little bit. Let's be realistic. It would have been a much more fun game if it was against the Bills. Oh, 100%.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
His goal was to... I mean, the goal of the book is to provide a case for UFOs. As it is called, you know? So... There wasn't – I don't think he saw himself as any kind of seminal figure. I think he seems to have seen himself as a standing-on-the-shoulders-of-giants type. Because, I mean, he has to have looked at Donnelly to get Mew, Atlantis. He has to have.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
I would have been stressed the whole time. Yeah, it should have been a Bills-Birds game without a doubt. I mean, I don't think the NFL will make the mistake next year of rigging everything for the Chiefs again.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
Especially now there's no three-peat. Also, after they just got... whoa oh my god that was i think in the same way that the patriots had like one last gasp after they lost to the eagles i see i see my home's getting to one more yeah hey i don't think you recover from what just happened no Also, the goat debate is settled. I hate to say it. It's Tom Brady. Oh, my God. I hate to say it.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
Having grown up, literally my first Super Bowl that I ever watched was watching the Patriots beat the Eagles in 2005. After they cheated. It hurt. I hated it. But... I grew up. My first game, my first Super Bowl I watched, up till I was graduating college, that man was dominating for 20 years. And then Kermit the Frog thinks he can usurp that. I'm not going to lie.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
There was one point where I was like, Just hit him. Just like at the end of the game when there was no chance, just hit him as hard as you can. Have Graham do it. Just like full bum rush. Don't care what happens down the field. Just give Brandon Graham a clear line to that man. There is nothing they can do. It was very funny watching the strip sack, too.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
Like, him going back to, like, because he, like, goes back to throw, the ball comes out, and Jalen Karsh, like, bitch.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
On, like, the seven-yard line. Yeah. Just so good. Zach Bond just like, oh, I'll take that. Yep.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
Oh, if you're not an Eagles fan, we we have like the only white starting cornerback in the league. We also have one of the only white starting safeties in the league. So I there was a meme that went around earlier in the season that was from like a wine store. And one of the signs said exciting whites.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
And so they took that image and just overlaid, you know, like I watching Cooper to Jean and read Blankenship play football and the exciting whites thing. And Philly ran with it. I have a shirt that has a bunch of pictures of DeGene and Blankenship on it that says Exciting Whites.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
Wait, didn't they wear the shirts to one of the games? They did, yeah. Okay, so first of all, rookie. White cornerback. His birthday...
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
pick six in the super bowl yeah oh my god oh but anyway let's get through these last ones the last one is from ludex for ten dollars saying symphonic metal recommendations okay this is gonna be uh i'm gonna have to pull up the the list here hit uh aren't you buddy so um god who's uh equilibrium has they're not symphonic metal as like a overall but they have some phenomenal symphonic songs
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
he's such a good little guy he really is all right i'm trying to find my uh my metal playlist here hang on any other thoughts no where is it playlists come on it's the i think i'm thinking i'm looking for the uh songs that are like sabaton but not always sabaton gotcha
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
Ella heard the Awoo's and is confused. That's great. Songs that are like... Is that what it was called? Yeah, I can't find it. Damn. You know what I'll do? I will put together a playlist tomorrow, and I will share that in the Discord.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
What's very interesting is that five years after he dies, Chan Thomas comes out with his book that says a lot of the same stuff, but then really throws a curveball into it. Really shifts some poles. Yeah. Until the cataclysm. Not a huge fan of Chan Thomas.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
So if you're not in the Discord, then you can go to https colon slash slash bit.ly slash jointhelodge, or I believe that link is in basically all of our video descriptions, and I will pop that into probably like the Mattis streaming one, or I'll pop it into general, but I will give you guys a list because there's a lot of stuff I want to share.
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The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
um i just need to go find it because i haven't listened to as much as i used to uh also just a band recommendation because they don't get enough love is sire syr i celtic folk punk band from south carolina yeah they got great music incredible band uh morse and perry and it is to be so are probably two of their best songs i would recommend listening to those but great band
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
We just haven't been able to sell them yet.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
Also, Archie will probably be there. Yeah, most likely. He gets to meet the boy.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
Which, let me tell you, is a very good experience. He is wonderful.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
All right. Well, I think that's everybody, right? It is indeed. Tonight was the show where I was like, this will be an hour and a half. I'm tired. No. No. No. Almost three hours.
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Oh, dear. We love you guys. You can never doubt that. No, you can not. All right. Well, thank you all so very much for watching. If you have not had a chance to see the re-upload of the Philadelphia Experiment 1, if you wouldn't mind just, like, Throwing it on when you go to bed tonight on your laptop and letting it play, we would be very appreciative. Make sure that the volume is on low.
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The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
Otherwise, it will not register as a view because YouTube is sneaky like that. Or if you just want to share it somewhere. That would honestly be the best way to help us out. A lot of subreddits, for example... don't allow self-promotion, but they do allow other people to share things.
The Lore Lads
"Look At The Parents" | Podcast Episode 153
Well, also like what you said not long ago. Directed just at Coffin Daffer. This is the whole industry. Yeah. But what you said not long ago, like in a live that we did and what you said multiple times in Discord is like, we like to crowdsource investigations if possible.
The Lore Lads
"Look At The Parents" | Podcast Episode 153
And the police don't know what happened. If it's something that would allow potential suspects to then find a way to work that detail into an alibi. And I get it. Yeah. Then it makes sense. In this case, they're in the video.
The Lore Lads
"Look At The Parents" | Podcast Episode 153
I did, and then I drove for, it would have been six hours. Made it five and a half.
The Lore Lads
"Look At The Parents" | Podcast Episode 153
You're still talking about JonBenet, right?
The Lore Lads
"Look At The Parents" | Podcast Episode 153
I was going to say, has anybody even asked them whether or not they have them in the home?
The Lore Lads
"Look At The Parents" | Podcast Episode 153
Yeah. No, it sounds like they're trying to evade the fact that they do have them. They just don't want to acknowledge what may or may not have been on that footage.
The Lore Lads
"Look At The Parents" | Podcast Episode 153
This is easily the most exciting gift he got in terms of the reaction that he's had to it. Oh, I love this thing.
The Lore Lads
"Look At The Parents" | Podcast Episode 153
Yeah, he would have to be with someone somewhere.
The Lore Lads
"Look At The Parents" | Podcast Episode 153
Yeah, they're business owners, aren't they?
The Lore Lads
"Look At The Parents" | Podcast Episode 153
You want to watch a video about that that's coming up on its first year anniversary, you go watch the Tommy Booth video.
The Lore Lads
"Look At The Parents" | Podcast Episode 153
Well, and that's the ironic bit, considering all of the camera footage we do have, all of the footage I went through, just to kind of convert it because it was in a format that was literally unwatchable. If you want to explain that, why we did that... Yeah, so we met up with Tommy Booth's mother to go over some things. We have the case file. Yeah, we have the case file.
The Lore Lads
"Look At The Parents" | Podcast Episode 153
And she also gave us all of the footage she had. No, we went to the police department.
The Lore Lads
"Look At The Parents" | Podcast Episode 153
So she was given that footage, but she also had some existing footage on a hard drive of hers that was in a form. I believe it was both forms of the footage were in file formats that were just not watchable.
The Lore Lads
"Look At The Parents" | Podcast Episode 153
And that's the thing, yeah. It was like... I don't even remember what... It wasn't AVIF, but it was some weird... It was weird. Yeah. So I had to download an application in order to convert the footage to MP4. So then I went through all of it just briefly once I had converted all of them to make sure they converted correctly.
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And the reason it's so shocking is because after having gone through all the footage that we were given... It is amazing that nothing caught him because you get almost every door. I don't think it has the back door, but you have the front door for almost the entire night. You've got every section of bar in the building, the dance floor. I think there was a pool hall and a portion of it.
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Like there's so much coverage. Granted, the footage is horrible quality. It's like 360p if you're lucky. But the fact that it was 2004. Yeah, but the fact that nobody identified him whatsoever on any of this footage is kind of insane.
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Well, somebody needs to follow up with his friend group and really put the pressure on him because there's there's no way none of them knew what happened.
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Yeah. You know whose opinion I'd love to get on both this, but also in particular the Sebastian Rogers case? Who? Steve Thomas. Yeah. I would love to see if there was a way to get his approval.
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That sounds almost more like a debrief after a mission to try and learn from the mistakes. Well, yeah, and here's the thing about it. I...
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At least he can't do that in that he was on national TV. Yeah, that's fair. Yeah. Once that happened, because I was going to say I've worked with people who are in the private sector now that were previously undercover cops and they've they did multiple runs in just in different townships, sometimes even in the same state, just different townships. But they've done multiple state, you know. Yeah.
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But if you're on national TV, if you're a national, you're kind of screwed on.
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Well, Matt, it's not his fault, considering Boulder, Colorado just had so little crime. Yeah.
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I'm surprised you're not going to go Henry.
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Yeah. Could you imagine a township with Alex Hunter as the DA and the police being the Ridley Township Police?
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I wonder if it was a similar situation, and then remind me the town that Sebastian Rogers... Hendersonville, Tennessee, and it's Sumner County. Sumner County. So I'm curious if Sumner County has a similar issue.
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Ah, so yeah, you got to know at least one person there pretty well to be able to do that.
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Yep. Also, like, they live in a development. Yeah. Like, it's not like they were out in the boonies. Like, they lived in a neighborhood that looks like if they don't have an HOA, it would be one that would have one.
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Specifically DNA samples that could rule in or out suspects in the murder of a child.
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I'm just imagining whether you're in a situation in which you need reliability for general reasons or even just at the range, that feels like a poor safety feature.
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Yeah, that's honestly... That is genuinely the most... Not the most shocking thing, but it is shocking that that was, at best, such a large oversight. Yep. If not an element of corruption in and of itself. I am...
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yeah uh real quick we're just under 10 minutes uh before super chats okay uh but uh other than anything wait wait wait wait wait wait wait what what what did apparently dog the bounty hunter's in our chat oh is that his actual account oh it would be a official dog the bounty hunter Uh, yeah. Official dog, the bounty hunter. Somebody looks like he said, fess up or give up $250,000 reward dog.
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Yeah. And access to is including our time and capabilities to help out to the best of our ability. You know, obviously we have this that we need to run. But, you know, in order to find a lost child, we can definitely manage to spare some time in our week to go help with a search in any way, shape or form that would actually be beneficial.
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Our lives have gotten very strange. But yeah, before we go to Super Chat, any last thoughts, hopes for this case in particular that you're... Sebastian? Yeah, that you're looking forward to potentially happening in 2025 or anything that you finally just want to cover?
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You did with the one of name, which we will not use specifically because those two words YouTube doesn't like. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The one with Austin, you managed way longer than most people in the comments. I think I did pretty well. You did considering how bad that was.
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In terms of guns, my favorite Christmas present was the present I gave my mother. Oh, what was it? Which was MetaQuest 3S. and i ended up downloading uh pavlov which was the game we played with oh and uh that was entertaining because i was doing a a thing of like different waves of enemies yeah and if you haven't used uh a vr like first person shooter game you actually have to like
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If there are other likely suspects, they've done a really good job of covering their tracks up till now.
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What's his name? The dad on the other hand, though, the telephone. Gary.
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Well, with that, I think it's 8 o'clock, so it's officially Super Chat time.
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like after this i've got to go keep working on the pennsylvania cluster yep yeah and our wonderful uh social media person has been yelling at us because oh yeah she uh she she has to like somehow break these into two videos
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yeah because uh unfortunately the the software we use to help find and generate clips that you see on social media won't let us use clips from something over two hours long so we're trying to frustrating but understandable we're trying to make it easier for everybody so that way we've a shorter show for you guys to watch a shorter show for us us to produce so we can actually sleep um
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And just keeping everything generally, you know, easy and usable on all platforms and for all varieties of content that we produce. Nonetheless, I think it's Alwestred? It's A-L-W-Y-S-T-Y-R-E-D.
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Got it. Either way. Uh, but yeah, they gave $10. Thank you very much. And asked, uh, didn't see if you answered this before, but I'm a paramedic that is from Yuba city, the Yuba, uh, where the Yuba County five is from. And now I live near where they went missing. I'd love to take pics, uh, and fill in some lore. Ooh. We should talk.
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do all of the hand movements like in the game and not just buttons it's like you're actually pulling back the slide and you know changing the magazine things like that i will say man uh your mom's surprisingly good at it no no i was the only one who played but i forgot just how important it is to really be good at your mag drills oh yeah oh my lord with the the one game version i was playing uh or game setting or whatever was just waves of enemies coming at you
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Please email us at thelorelogicgmail.com or send a message in one of the tip lines in the Discord. Yep. That's a great way to... I did see one from Bert in the chat right now. Just like the regular? Yeah. Any chance you guys want to go back to Texas?
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Well, I just got wind of information over the weekend that I may not necessarily need, but may have a very good reason to go to Texas at the end of the month. So I think we'd have to talk about when they're doing their Texas thing.
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What? This is not relevant, but it is gone, but it's a good one. So sad that John Ramsey sent Aiden that revolver. So sad that we lost him on June 13th, 2025. R.I.P. Matussi, depression is real.
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Oh, that's phenomenal. Uh, next would probably be, um, the rude Canadian for Canadian $5 and 69 cents. Love the specificity saying, have you guys ever heard of the murder of John Dick? Uh, it's a pretty famous murder slash ghost story from the Abilene falls. I hope I pronounced that right in Hamilton, Ontario. Cheers. I had not heard of it, but I'm looking it up.
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Okay, yeah, this sounds worth looking into for sure. Royalist Mennonite? Tsarist Mennonite?
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And it's like they start you with a 1911 and that's it. So you've got eight rounds and you got to change. And wow, it would be like done. I'm trying here. And then I look up and there's three guys pointing guns.
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Yeah, we got to cover that story. That's nuts. Canada, you never fail to disappoint me. Well, I'm sure. I'm sure the Mounties were involved somewhere. They've got to be. Most of these are just kind of vaguely relevant, so I'm just going to go back to the start and run through them. Her Royal Pain for $5 is saying, write allegedly on your foreheads to avoid lawsuits, boys.
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Yeah, especially with the way the game was set up.
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Yeah. Might conflict with Letterkenny a little bit there.
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allegedly in our opinion per chance oh and then we're good because we say that all the time yeah yeah without a doubt uh chimp with a hand grenade for 199 says as a new yorker i'm so sorry fair i think my my drive back today it wasn't bad ended with a very pretty sunset yeah it was really nice as a philadelphian to new yorkers i am so sorry for your football team Oh, yeah.
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Everyone except Buffalo. We were at Genesee watching the Buffalo Jets game. We weren't watching it. We showed up at Genesee Brewhouse for like an hour and it was on. It was the last five minutes. And we looked at this. We looked at the TV and we were like, oh, it's Jets. Oh, my God. It was like thirty five to nothing. Yeah. In the fourth quarter.
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I'm a little sad that I wasn't watching the game because Tanner McKee dropped two touchdown passes. No, no, no, no, because I had to watch the picket. On TikTok later.
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I love it. I love that he redeemed himself, but watching that video come across my feed, and I had to watch it four times. I was like, did they erase a person here, or did that just actually happen? Chances are they are not going to start Hurts.
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Is this just going to be another round of Wentz-Foles?
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And then out of nowhere, Nate Studfeld comes in for like three plays. You and Nate Studfeld, man. I just, there's something about him, man. He just, it was, you know what it was? It was magical. Don't get me wrong. It was specifically the fact that his last name was Sudfeld and that they brought him in to then receive the touchdown pass. Yeah. as a quarterback, which player are you talking about?
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There was one play. It was, it was, I can't remember what game it was, but they did like, uh, not a QB sneak, but I don't know enough football terminology, but essentially he, he was given the ball. He tossed it to someone else's lateral, went into the end zone and was thrown the ball for a touchdown. Yeah. And it was just like, it was like the first play he'd ever played in an official NFL game.
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And he received a touchdown as a quarterback that he had began the ball. Yeah, yeah. And it's just like, oh, this is phenomenal. I love the Eagles. They're such a great team. Law for $5 saying, at D tier, Mattis reaction streams win. I don't know.
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Silvia Francisca, I believe. That's probably a horrible pronunciation, but has been a member for a month.
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Oh, yeah, no, I didn't watch this game this weekend. Did we decide not to run the same play over and over again for four quarters straight?
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He's like the Dawkins of running back. Is he really?
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What a shame. Henry was such a beast like four years ago.
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Fair. I just feel like there's been a little bit of a... Well, I mean, he's getting older.
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He was on the Colts? Yeah, I think it was the Colts. Titans. Titans, that's it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because who was the quarterback for the Titans at the time? Tannehill. Yeah, him and Tannehill. Incredible combo right there.
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Yeah, I don't know what happened. I remember because Rex was really into the Titans that I think was 2021. I bet now he doesn't even remember the Titans. How could he? How could he forget in such a way?
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Yep, yep. It's not a football show. No, it is not. Could be, but it's not. We do have 2,000 viewers, though, despite it. Yeah, despite the fact that we're talking about football, yeah. I did not see the view count number. Jeez. Yeah, no. ThatgirlRWB for 989 says, thanks. Thank you.
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Absolutely. But yeah, this point of the show, we are now answering Super Chats from people who have Super Chatted in throughout the show. So if you find it's not totally relevant to Sebastian, that's part of the reason. But if you want to ask questions in particular, like Matt has just said, feel free to do so. Got like 40 minutes to do it. Yep.
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Yeah, considering how most of the Bigfoot videos have gone in the last year. I think that's why I titled it Feral People. Yeah, well, that's the thing. We were shocked. All of our videos have done generally not as well as we would have liked in the last month or so. That one's the best one we've had since mid-November. We have no idea why.
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The next question is less of a question, but more of a donation. Thank you. From Elena DeHaller, werewolf queen for $4.99, giving us more PTSD therapy money. Yeah. And then asking us what we got for Christmas. She got a lot of art supplies, which is cool. That seems like it would be right up your alley. Yeah, without a doubt.
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I got my first fishing rod. Well, no, second fishing rod of all time, but first one that's actually usable in like big settings. So yeah, that'll be fun. Gom for $5 says, also just ran for the entirety of the American Idiot album at eight minute pace. I haven't run in 10 months, but I am getting ready for a dog man hunt. Nice. Well done. Yeah, I gotta start running more again.
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Cy Bain has been a member for two months. Thank you very much. Thank you. Kellen, the official data for $20. Thanks, sir. Thank you, Kellen. Saying, happy New Year's, boys. Pay your taxes. Insert your bank like a man or with an open bolt. That will solve the problem.
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Also, thank you for the reminder to pay my taxes because I still have to do state before January 15th.
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Yeah. It sucks. Yeah, that was very helpful, actually. Thank you. Gom was saying, I believe the package arrived open on stream. Is it like here? It arrived here? Supposedly. Did you see a package? I did not notice one, but I also didn't come in the front.
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Mangled Wither for $20, thank you very much, says, This coming year is the first year I'm genuinely scared of my grandmother dying along with my dad. I don't know which of them I'll lose next year, but I'm scared. It feels like whatever God controls the universe just hates me. Um... I wouldn't say that, but I can certainly understand fearing the loss of loved ones, especially grandmother.
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I can very much empathize with you there. I actually just lost one of my grandmothers back in November. It was very difficult for the family, you know, very tough time. I think the biggest thing you can do is, you know, recognize that, unfortunately, that's a part of life for all of us.
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But, you know, in the moments that you still have with them, make sure that you call them or you go see them, invite them to lunch. I still need to get better about that myself with, you know, a variety of different family members. But it's important to cherish the time that you have and make sure that you're doing right by them while they're still here. So that way...
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you know when that does inevitably happen one way or another hopefully in a peaceful manner you can rest easy knowing that you know the the love was given and shared and you can cherish the memories that you had together it's not necessarily going to make it easier um but at least it'll it'll bring a little bit of extra positivity to a dark time uh but yeah hope that was helpful yeah it's not here oh okay
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Gom, apparently the package is not here yet. Yes, 10 North. Make sure that's what you're doing.
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uh yeah and then next is jamo for ten dollars saying i've written over 1800 words in two-ish hours i'm tired mattis play tf2 please anywho uh your heart is in the utter but you have to choose will you set the milk upon them or you have to choose will you set the milk upon them for the milk is your warrior jamo you're always you're always coming at it with uh with some sauce What did that mean?
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That was great. I love how you read it again and still didn't make any sense. Thank you. I think. Thank you for the $10 at the very least and a little bit of confusion to make our brains work.
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No, no, not currently. Elena is saying, I know this is most likely wishful thinking, but I hope Sebastian is eventually found safe. Oh, same. Yeah, I think we're all kind of in that boat. Here we go.
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There you go. They're good for many things. White Trash Banner for $5 says, whatever you upload, I'm watching 98% of the way through every time. I usually cut out the drink, eat, wear more Lodge segment. That's fair.
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That's ABC Family's 25 days of Christmas. Now, sure. Has it always been 25? Oh, yeah. ABC Family's 25 days of Christmas, this Friday, Prisoner of Azkaban.
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I will say, I know I saw one earlier in the evening that we're going to get to eventually, but you brought it up. Somebody was asking whether or not we'd be able to get a Pity for the Gorge shirt on Bunker sometime soon. I think so. I think so. Yeah, I'd be shocked if we couldn't. Toast McGhost for $5 says, love you guys' content. I was introduced via the Yuba County 5 video.
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Joined late tonight, so I'll re-watch this live later. Thanks for doing this. Thank you. Tyler Dalrymple for $5. We've got to get Tony back on the show, too. We do. Yeah, we really do. I've been taught to operate giant industrial robot arms. I will make this everyone's problem. Happy New Year, fellas. You know what?
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Yeah, that'll know. Sybane for $4.99 says, Long time lurker, but girlfriends and I are going to the Mothman Festival this coming year, and we were wondering if you guys are going to be there. If so, drinks on me. Oh, we are considering it. Yeah, we've been asked multiple years in a row. We just keep forgetting to schedule to do it. Yeah, I keep forgetting when it is.
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yeah and then october rolls around i'm like oh it was in june well like yeah we'll uh we'll definitely we just need to be reminded of it um for sure more frequently but we do want to go uh so long as it's not conflicting with any of the other things we currently have scheduled uh vampire from pluto for 420 love the specificity saying uh blue snow shovel self-defense video when
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Hope in the shadow. Let me make sure I'm reading the full name properly. Just got to scroll down.
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Who counts as a Nicene Christian versus not? Basically, almost all Christians. Okay. Who doesn't fit in that?
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I know very little about the differences between... We'll talk about it on Weird Bible at some point. There we go. TheSilverSeptal, I believe, for 569 says, Hey, just wanted to say love your work, and I found my great-grandfather was a Mason, and now I'm thinking of joining any advice.
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About Orthodox Christianity or the Masons?
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You know? But what if that's the truth? That's the... That is the hidden truth that all religion has kept.
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Up until the last like three minutes, I really thought Jobulon was something you just pulled out of thin air. No, that's a real thing. You know, that is that is shocking that that's.
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It's kind of crazy how there's so few of those types of communities that exist nowadays.
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As a result of this conversation, Elena just gave us 50 more dollars worth of PTSD money. Thank you. Thank you.
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We do. Yeah. So, uh, Allie for $5 says, in your opinion, is Sebastian more likely to be kidnapped and held by family or or like JonBenet allegedly was accidentally hurt and this is a cover-up by the family?
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That is not a valid use of force. No. And I would also consider that given Sebastian's mental state, that would qualify as cruel and unusual punishment. Precisely.
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gonna do his best with editing maybe we'll get some more overlays and stuff and make it look prettier but yeah that's the thing is I wanted to the idea wasn't just like oh yeah we're just gonna do this slap the beginning on do you know take care of all that and then you know we'll just like let you rewatch the whole thing again no I wanted to try and improve some of those previous elements I'm not gonna do like a ton but I want to make sure also like we'll take out the Riley strain update segment of the
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Every instance in reality that I've seen of anybody using, like, physical pain as a punishment just seeds rebellion. Often, yeah. Yeah. Like, it does not do anything for the lesson you're trying to impart. In my opinion, I think Chris enjoyed hitting that child. Probably. Probably. Yeah, that's my opinion. Hope in the Shadows, Gypsy Nilsson for $20. Thank you very much.
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Says, thank you for your professionalism. You both are awesome. What is your biggest challenge when researching a new case?
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An absolutely confounding series of choices. Yeah. If they're innocent.
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Dixie chicken 1969 for $10 says, thank you for keeping Sebastian's name out there. Praying he is found soon. Me too. Uh, and then that's the last of the, the current, uh, Sebastian super chats. Um, daddy Falker for $5 says, are y'all going to, uh, Alba witch day this year? It's in Columbia PA. Uh, if you want to do more relatively local cryptid thing, I don't know that I've heard of that term.
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Also, Leah Thurling and Felix Brewer are relatively new members. One just became one, and the other has been a member for two months, so thank you.
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I'm shocked we hadn't heard of this before.
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timeline video it'll just be a longer but more not precise but focused version of the Sebastian Rogers case and I'm sure as you're going through it you might come across stuff that you're like this is redundant this gets covered in the next one blah blah blah like there might be some changes are you did you have a title for it yet
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Yeah, real close. That also fits a question that somebody had asked. Let me see if I can find it. Somebody asked, essentially, if we wanted to do more on-location stuff, but I want to confirm what specifically that question was. Here's a fun one from TheSkyKing5 saying, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year's, boys.
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What other cases have you covered that, in hindsight, you think the parents were more involved in? I feel like most of the cases that we've talked about do not particularly involve parents, so it's going to be a smaller range of cases, but I'd say the Smiley Face Killer cases or some of the Missing411 cases may be relevant. I would say one that I don't think...
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parent is involved in, just to rule it out, would be Garrett Bardsley. I think that is very much not parent involved.
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You know who that reminded me of that we think the parents were almost certainly somehow involved? Evangeline Lorimer.
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Yeah. I would hope so. Yeah. Um, I would, uh, somebody was saying, uh, apparently a very easy way to get Chris Proudfoot on here is to mention his truck. Apparently Chris Proudfoot's truck. Probably something that has to do with where it was, where it went, when it went there, how long it was gone, things like that.
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Yeah, no, I'm sorry. Any man in America that drives a pickup truck knows what year the truck is.
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Yeah, apparently he's very defensive about the truck.
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Oh... Man, I wonder if he'll show up in the last seven minutes of the show.
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Different kind of show at that point, I guess.
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Yeah, no, he did not deserve a Latina wife.
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uh my wife for ten dollars says not my wife the username my wife yeah uh says how do we were in chris proudfoot's case my fifth wife my fifth wife soon to be my fifth ex-wife um says how do we feel about the special party john benet was supposed to have with santa i know bdi is the leading theory burke's interview mishaps suck uh but david pate has me re-evaluating the case not familiar with david pate i'll have to look into it um
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It's the little, and look, you've covered this a lot in the videos, but this is one I want to emphasize when you go through all the videos that we have done and will do on JonBenet Ramsey is it's all of the little details like that, that add up that make it seem allegedly that the Ramseys are responsible because it's like, if that was the exception of the circumstances, it makes sense.
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You know, it's a weird scenario. Things happen. People misunderstand things. People forgive.
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Yeah. It's the worst lasagna ever made. It's one way to put it. All right. We got enough time for two more specifically because I want to read this one because I think I like it. And then how about you pick the final one that you want to answer? I'm going to have to look at that screen. That's fine.
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James Lawrence for $10 says the book of James five and KJV goes unnecessarily hard when it comes to religion, profit and the poor gets a lot done in a few verses. Let's pull it up. He said James five, right? Yep.
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All right, last one because it just came in and it is relevant. From Rachel508 for $4.99 saying, Sorry you missed first shout out. Do you think besides Katie and Chris that trash weight was distraction or held weight to the case and are grandparents suspects? Sorry.
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I'm assuming that there is a detail that we may not be familiar with about something in relation to the weight of their trash that was being brought into question.
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So maybe that's what it is, whether or not that might be actually legitimate or that was just a distraction.
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Okay, so you said... It's a few questions. Trash, they said, was heavy, a.k.a. searching landfills and Sebastian taking it out. So one being, was Sebastian in the trash? Was that a waste of time? Or potentially was it relevant that Sebastian was the one who took the trash out? Another thing... Well...
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In middle school, I was dragging two trash cans up a 100-yard hill to get everything up.
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Yeah, I don't know why specifically, though, ABC Family decided, oh, yeah, all of the Harry Potter. Probably because we were growing up.
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Well, I don't think I've ever tweeted a single tweet from the Lore Lodge. You have not.
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Yep. Well, unfortunately, that's all the time we have for tonight on Super Chats, but thank you to everybody who sent them in.
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Another question I had. I was reminded of certain mega church pastors that have like several jets, like private jets and whatnot. Would we ever consider doing a video on like Christian grifting?
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But nonetheless, yeah. Thanks for joining us tonight, whether you're new or returning. And thanks for joining us on this ride, both through the Ramsey case and the Rogers case. Yep.
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Be safe, have fun, and we'll see you in 2025. See you guys.
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The other thing is all of the absolute hypocrisy of people saying things that are just blatantly not Christian at all.
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Coming from a generally agnostic, raised Catholic guy, it's just like...
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everyone i see attack christians is always attacking those ones well not just not always but a lot of the time they're usually not christians themselves yeah so they come at it with like oh well this is just a prime example of how stupid religion is i mean meanwhile like 99 of christians are sitting here going oh my god shut up and that's shut up well that's the thing i think it'd be an interesting perspective to have a a true christian who cares about the faith look at the people who are that might be solid for like your bible too yeah that's what i was thinking um
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It also makes sense purely from the perspective of how popular they were. Has it always been Disney? It was probably Warner that got sold to Disney. But, I mean, they were so popular at the time.
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I will say my oh really was partial surprise at hiring a lawyer, more so surprised that it took her this long. Like I said.
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Stop hoarding it. Oh, you're specifically talking about the security footage.
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Yeah, the only reason that I won't put anything in a video is, well, copyright, if it's too graphic, or if I just couldn't find it.
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When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
Therefore, it was Brazen Cyrus. And I'm sitting here like, He's a member of a wealthy family. He makes music. I don't think he's the kind of guy that would just randomly drop half a million bucks on some private intelligence company. So I asked him directly, and he said no. And he really would have no reason to lie about that? He would have no reason to lie about that.
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Also, it would be the kind of thing that is verifiable, because there would be a transaction somewhere. I...
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queen bee i hate to tell you but my sources are better because in this case it's the guy you said paid um i don't know it was a whole weird thing and then at the at the very end as i'm like hopping off now keep in mind it i think 45 minutes in i had said i can stay on for like 15 20 more minutes to answer a couple more questions and then i really gotta go I ended up saying another like 30 or 40.
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And then as I'm getting ready to get off, Cluminati hops in. And then I like didn't even really acknowledge it. I just was getting off. So I got off and then I keep the stream up just to kind of listen to see what happens afterwards. See, like, did the conversation shift at all? Are they going to address what I said?
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And instead, all I hear is this random lady, you know, talking about how I'm scared of her. And how as soon as I get in here, he logs off. So I pop back in to be like, I said I was getting off in 20 minutes, 40 minutes ago. And I that's why I got off. I actually overstayed what I intended to.
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The reason I came here and didn't go on your show, which is clearly the reason you're upset, is that I don't respect you. I, you know, Queen Bee here at least was, you know, let me talk a bit. I didn't appreciate the amount of lies and slander she allowed to be thrown after I got off the show, which is why I didn't hold back here. I... I don't get it.
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I have never been involved in something like this. I guess Summer Wells was also... kind of the same way because her parents went on a bunch of podcasts. I'm going to look into that at some point too. But yeah, I mean, I was disgusted with most of what I saw regarding this case. And I've gone through and I've watched some other things.
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One of the things that was being, this was thrown at me a number of times during that exact panel on Queen Bee's channel. Ready for this? They're telling me Bullhorn Betty called Sebastian defective. I'm like, man, that's pretty insulting. I have an autistic little brother. I don't consider him defective. Who could say such a thing? So I go and I actually watch. I watch the videos.
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And every single time, what Bullhorn Betty is actually saying is... Something along the lines of Katie sees her son is defective in her in Bullhorn Betty's opinion. Katie thinks Sebastian is defective, and that's why she wanted faith. So it's not necessarily a quote, but it's an attribution of a mentality. But exactly.
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She's saying, I look at Katie and it appears to me that Katie considers Sebastian defective. So somebody links me to another stream where somebody who goes by the username Nonsense is playing through an episode where you have a number of people actually saying as much. Like, yeah, she's pretty obviously saying here that this is not her opinion. And in fact, in one of the clips...
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she actually says, I don't know why people are taking this out of context and saying, it's my opinion. I'm saying that it's my opinion. Katie sees Sebastian as defective. I don't see Sebastian as defective. Like that's what I get from her. That whole clip plays in this nonsense person. Her, her people are like, well, yeah, she just said it again. She said he's defective.
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And I'm, I'm sitting here going, how, She's explained at length that it's not her opinion Sebastian is defective. In none of the clips did she say, in my opinion, Sebastian is defective. All she said over and over again is, I think Katie sees him as defective. And they're looking at this, they're watching it with the full context. I mean, plain as day, right in your face.
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Going, well, clearly Bullhorn Betty is saying Sebastian's defective. I mean, it's... I don't know if it's cognitive dissonance. I don't know if it's having an IQ that would keep meat safe. Like... I don't know what it is. What... Sorry, I just wasn't ready for that one. That was a new one for me. Yeah, I hadn't heard that before.
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The one I said last time I got some pushback on, I thought that one was fair.
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Yeah, no. Why do you think I just now got... First of all, I explained in the... And here's what I realized is they didn't even watch the video from Friday. From last Friday. Well, the other thing is, did they invite you on the show? No, not necessarily. But when you use my name and tag me, I'm going to consider that an invite. And they had their StreamYards link in the chat so anybody could join.
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Yeah, and I want to be clear. I saw some not-so-great remarks from people on both sides of this topic because, again, it's gotten to a point where it's drama. It is a tribal issue. The closest thing I can compare a lot of the conversations I saw this with to is the Eagles-Cowboys rivalry. If you go on a sports page, it does not matter who's doing better that year.
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It doesn't matter what the stats are. You're either an Eagles fan or a Cowboys fan, and you refuse to acknowledge any success the other team might have. It's the same kind of mentality here. Now, granted, I mean, with Eagles-Cowboys, there's a very obvious better team right now. So, you know, just saying. But taking it back to the Sebastian Rogers thing, it's become totally tribal.
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It's all about my side versus your side. And that's sad. That is very frustrating. Because, again, this is a missing child. And I think if you laid it out for people and you said, all right, We have... Here's the facts of the case. We have a 15-year-old boy with autism who goes missing in the middle of the night at the end of February. We know he hates being cold. We know he hates being barefoot.
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He did not take any of his shoes, and it was cold. What do we have here? We have that his stepfather... has a history of courts telling him, you need high conflict classes. You need parenting classes if you want to see your daughter. We have a mother who has a history of telling courts that her ex was abusive without the courts finding that to be in any way the case.
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We also have an ongoing custody case for a little girl to go to live with that family. Already, I think just about anybody would see that there are some red flags. Let's add in the fact that the stepfather goes on interview shows and talks about how there was some kind of incident with Sebastian, with his son, with his stepson, that some family members want him to go to the police about.
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They run these things like panels where just anyone can join. If they hadn't seen your stuff, why were they talking about you? Because they saw the live stream we did a week ago. Ah, and then I, and that's it. Yeah. So that kind of, which again was weird because over and over in that live stream, I referenced our documentary, our documentary, our previous live stream, our documentary.
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And then he disappears. Just based off of that little bit of information alone. I think a lot of people would go, yeah, it sounds like the stepdad has motive. Based on the facts alone, yeah. I mean, I don't think that it can be denied that Chris Proudfoot has a motive here.
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That's got to be the weirdest part for me. I have yet to see a single instance where this guy looked sympathetic. Yeah, and that's why it's so confusing. He never comes across as somebody I'd want to root for, so there's not even an emotional thing there. And then you look at the stuff he says, and, I mean, he makes fun of the fact that Sebastian likes to dance.
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He clearly doesn't have a good grasp on how autism works. He talks about hitting the kid with a belt multiple times, having CPS called multiple times. Like, at... Where in the process did this guy gain a fan base? Is this like with serial killers, how they they have their people that write to them who fall in love with them?
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Yeah, I just don't I don't get it. Now there's a whole bunch of people talking about, oh, well, you know, Nina cheated on him and there had to be a paternity test. And I've asked for evidence of that over and over and over again, and nobody's been able to produce it. I'm told it happened. If it's so obvious, if it's so well-known in this case... Where is the evidence?
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Where's the video of her saying she did it? Where is the receipts? Where are the text messages? Also, there were a lot of people who were talking about, you know, me just saying things if they were fact. For example, Nina Gomez, the claims she made when in our documentary, what I actually say is she made all of these claims. A lot of these would be corroborable. The police should do that.
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That's all I said. I never said all of this actually happened. I went as far as to say, even in the update video from last Friday, not this past Friday, the last one, I even said the things she says should be seen as a little bit suspect considering the nature of her relationship with Chris. And they just breeze past all the context and ignore it. I just, I don't get it. But, I mean...
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you see kind of the same thing with David Politis with a lot of the cases we talked about on Friday. And I think that there's kind of this, I'm sure it happens with non-child related cases, but a lot with child related cases because they just get so much attention. People don't want to believe certain possibilities, right?
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Those possibilities are typically parents hurting their children or children just wandering off. There's got to be something else that happened. Now, in Sebastian's case, the evidence suggests he didn't wander off. Looking at the cases we covered on Friday, though, most of those did seem like a child just wandering off. And you know what I think is really interesting about it? What's that?
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When we started covering this case in July, like, so anyway, I went on, I went on, there were two that mentioned us by name. They were Cluminati who fair. I did shit on her.
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These are cases going back to 1882. In every single one, the dad is out there searching for days, weeks, sometimes, over and over and over again. There are even a couple of cases where everybody was really suspicious of the parents after a little while. The dad was still out searching.
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Because when kids wander off, and I get it, Sebastian's 15, but when kids wander off, there's usually a certain type of response. And in a lot of the stories we looked at on Friday from Pennsylvania, that response ended up finding the child very quickly. It was, you know, within hours, the parents are out there combing every area. The neighbors are out there looking all over the place.
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And they end up finding the kid like a mile and a half away. And this is where I get frustrated with David Politis is a two-year-old being found a mile and a half away from where they were last seen 24 hours later. is simply not weird. Now, in the city, it would be weird. Who didn't notice this toddler walking around alone for a day? That's weird. That's when you start to think kidnapping.
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We're talking about rural Pennsylvania. We're talking about Amish country in some cases here where there's big family farms that are a mile and a half across. I mean, you could... A child could find a creek and follow it for a mile.
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And you just wouldn't find it. And so, you know, with with on Friday, obviously, we covered all these cases that are like, ah, well, these aren't weird. It was 13 out of 39, though. Leaves two thirds of the cases that were kind of weird. Another funny thing is that I even said as much in the video and you get people who are just, why do you hate David Polaitis?
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I'm like, I even told you that the majority of the cases in this segment do seem a little weird. Now, do they seem like they were Bigfoot? Absolutely not. No. Potentially criminal? Yeah. Yeah. In one case, the police... This was actually a 22-year-old. It wasn't a child. The police... She disappears. Her father is a reverend. He's going to visit a sick parishioner.
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Do you remember where in PA this was? Oh, this was Philadelphia. This was in Fox Chase. I don't know why it's even included. Got it. Yeah, so it's this one. Got it. Fox Chase is not rural. And Fox Chase was not rural 90 years ago either. So I... Okay. Okay, Dave. But... This girl, and here's the cases I wish people would look into and cover.
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elaborate again why well her titles are usually like you know seth pp poopoo rogers is such a dumb dumb i'm so offended blah and then she's got these like and oh here's the best part you know she's got one of uh it's a cartoon with seth rogers face on it just peeing on something and i'm like this is this is uncouth to say the least is it like a calvin and hobbes reference or something i don't i don't know i i think she she just doesn't have any idea what the word decorum means uh
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This girl, she tells her dad she's going to go for a walk. Based on the way it's described, she had a history of probably panic disorder, which I know what that's like. But she definitely had some history of this. She, and David doesn't mention that part at all, by the way. Of course not. So she goes for a walk, says she'll be back in half an hour. Never comes back.
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She's found the next day in a park, nude, dead. Signs of a struggle, scratches from thorn bushes, things like that. The police questioned a few people who were at the park that day. One woman said that she had heard a girl screaming in the park. Aiden, do you recall what the police, what the coroner determined was the cause of death? I do not. What was it?
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Exposure as a result of, and is the camera on me? Yes. Moon madness.
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And he goes on at length in the newspapers about, you know, how, oh, well, people have known for a long time that the rays of the moon cause women to behave strangely. I'm like, there were multiple people in the park that day who should have been considered suspects, including two 17 year old boys who both saw her enter the park and miraculously found her the next day.
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Hello. Not sure what that was about. Yeah, Streamlabs broke. Streamlabs said bye. Useful chairs again. Yep. Where were we?
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Right. Yeah. So for those who weren't here, because we're probably going to take down the old 30 second long live from a minute and a half ago. But for those who were not here to see what happened in the 13 minutes directly preceding us hitting go live on this stream. Thanks, Streamlabs. I had a weird experience after we did our most recent Sebastian Rogers series. And so here's the thing.
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just happened to know where she was. Uh, I'm not saying they did it, but how is an officer? Do you not go? Hmm. Yeah. I get it. Police forces were a relatively new thing at the time. Metropolitan police departments came about in what the 1880s, I think something like that. Like, so, you know, you don't have, it's like 50 years. Like they don't have all the kinds of things we have today.
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I think maybe they might have been syncing it up to the wrong cycle.
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No. They knew about menstrual cycles in the Middle Ages. They knew about menstrual cycles in the biblical times.
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They probably, I would think in the 1930s, they must have known.
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That's true. You make a very valid point there. Yeah, that's a good point. Well, there's another one that comes up. I think this was like the 70s or 80s. Girl, this is rural Pennsylvania. I think this was up in northwestern PA, which for those who have not been to Pennsylvania, first of all, You're missing out.
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Yes, but being in one part of Pennsylvania does not give you the remotest idea of what the rest of Pennsylvania is like. Oh, being in one part of Pennsylvania doesn't give you an idea of what 20 miles away from you is like. Yeah, if we drive 20 miles west of where we currently are, we are in the 1700s. Yep. But also the 2020s. It's a weird...
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And then weirdly enough, you go 20 miles north of that, you are once again in a somewhat metropolitan area. Yes. And then it's Georgia again. Yeah. Also, just the Appalachians just kind of go zoop. Like they just form a crescent right in the middle of the state. Yep. It's a weird place. Right.
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Yeah. By the way, if your answer is Sheetz, you are dead to me. I'm kidding. I actually I did not hate Sheetz as a drunk food place in college. Yeah. I went to college in central Pennsylvania at Penn State, and it was out of Wawa territory.
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uh but anyway so she's like you know talking shit to me and i just popped into her chat donated ten dollars and said here's that attention you ordered um because her stream was about me wanting attention uh but the best part in the best part was that she and i should have thought to do this tonight it would have been really funny uh the best part was that the the title was something along the lines of like aiden from the lore lodge and wants some attention or something which meanwhile like
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Yeah, I don't know. No idea. But yeah, so there's this one case up, and I think it was in northwestern Pennsylvania. It was a 15-year-old girl. She disappears, and here's what happens. Ready for this? She's found, I forget if it was like hours later or the next day off the top of my head, but it was one of the two. She disappears. Her mother hears her scream.
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And then they find her either later that day or the next day. And according to police, when they found her, she said that she had just been feeling a little bit high strung and anxious and needed to go for a walk. According to her mother, she said that a big man with a knife chased her.
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I just feel like I trust one of those accounts more than the other.
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But the mom didn't seem to think that she was in a relationship of any kind. How old was she? Fifteen. What year was this? I want to say it was the 70s. I will say that tracks. It's possible. But also, a big man with a knife chased me to her mom. That's fair. She told her mom. The mom didn't seem to understand why the police weren't taking that seriously.
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I look at it and I go, yeah, well, I mean, if a police officer doesn't want to investigate something... One way they could do it is by accusing the person of being mentally ill.
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Oh, yeah, of course. You know, everybody knows. Moon madness makes you hallucinate. But there were also cases that, you know, there was a guy's name, Harold Motz, I think. I remember the name. Henry Motz or Harold Motz or something like that. Yeah, he was 12. He goes off looking for his dog. It is a lost dog. Politis reports that he was with like his brother and his uncle.
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The papers say it was his dad. They split up to go look in two different spots. He disappears for a few days, walks out of the woods, I think, three days later. Fine, slight fever, you know, not doing great, but alive. And the first thing he says to his rescuers is, boy, am I glad to see you. That's just an all-time comment.
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He then proceeds to have no trouble explaining that he was just lost and couldn't find his way back to the road. And eventually he did. And that was it. Nothing weird. Doesn't talk about, you know, a big hairy man, like, you know, keeping him safe. Doesn't talk about bears or being chased through the woods or anything.
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I do think my favorite one out of all of them, and I think I actually did end up moving this into the potentially weird column, That or I didn't properly explain the whole situation in the video on Friday.
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Politis is like, all the parents thought she had been carried off by a bear, but the papers don't say why they thought she was carried off by a bear, which is the thing he does when he wants you to think it was Bigfoot. All the papers mention that there was a bear in the area that had been attacking sheep.
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wait wait our videos do relatively the same number of views no matter what topic we cover hang on so me covering sebastian rogers if she had actually paid attention to anything i said i i wasn't going to cover sebastian rogers because what what do we typically not do aiden oh we don't usually inject drama into ongoing investigations exactly the ongoing investigations i try not to talk about ongoing investigations because there's never the full amount of information ever
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I'm curious what you think I'm going to say.
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Oh, well, I mean, it's just... You're creating a mystery where there isn't one. And also, it's disrespectful to the people involved.
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Yeah, I mean, it's disrespectful to the people involved. It convinces a lot of people out there that there are these weird things happening that aren't. And it kind of devalues the stuff that actually is weird. Like, that's... A lot of people who watch our videos now probably don't realize it, but when the channel started, I thought Politis was onto something. I was trying to prove him right.
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I only got here because I realized, oh, he's making things up. It's frustrating. Somebody was like, why would you kick a man when he's down? What do you mean when he's down? He's making money off of this. He's allowed to make money off of this, but I'm not allowed to make money off of this? I'm not allowed to criticize him? If he wants to criticize me, he's welcome to do so.
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I'm not going to complain. Um, you know, and I've, I've wanted to get him on the show. I've wanted to ask him point blank, like what is going on here? Like, are these cases where you just had bad information and you didn't realize it? What's, what's the deal?
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I think the fact that on North American Bigfoot search, the website for that, which is his Bigfoot organization, the fact that missing four on one is listed. Yeah. Put two and two together, man. Um, Yeah, but I just that said, there are some weird ones. The moon madness one is weird because it's probably criminal. The big man with a knife one is weird because it's probably criminal.
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And then there's some even weirder ones like this guy who is a clinical psychologist from Trenton who goes and attends a conference in Westchester, which David Politis very incorrectly identifies as being near the Pennsylvania Grand Canyon, which is several way north. Yeah, it's like three hours minimum north. Probably four. Yeah, that's like Lycoming County.
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No, it's even further north than Lycoming. It's Gaines. It's like Pine Grove. It's almost New York. Yeah. Like it's closer to Ohio than Pennsylvania or than Westchester. Also, several of the cases he includes are from Maryland and New York. One's from Ohio, and it's actually within, like, five miles of the border. I'll give him that one.
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But one of the New York ones is further away from Pennsylvania than Staten Island is from New Hope, Pennsylvania.
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One's closer to D.C. Yeah, it's, like, way south of Baltimore. Yeah, it's, like, at the bottom part of Maryland. Some of these are northern-tier Pennsylvania. Some are southern-tier New York. But this one with the clinical psychologist I'm actually really interested in because, first of all, if I'm not mistaken here, I found exactly two articles about it. Interesting.
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It is... And when I say that, I mean, if you look up... I think his name was Michael Jose Malinowski. If you look that up, you're going to find a whole bunch of articles on him, right? They are all strange outdoors. The Charlie Project, Missing Form 1, da-da-da-da-da. And they all repeat the same information. And they all link to the website for the Star Gazette, I want to say, up in New York.
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When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
As far as actual news articles go, I found two. There were more articles about kids who disappeared in 1890.
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When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
The police are never forthcoming with everything they have. But in this case, why did we choose to talk about it? Because a country music artist asked me to. From Nashville, from like one of the bigger Nashville country music families. So I'm like, all right, you know, when when Miley Cyrus's little brother asks you to cover a case, you do it. You do it. So I did.
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Yeah, there's two articles. One is in the Philadelphia Inquirer. One is in like the Star Gazette. Not a ton of information. But from what I can tell, guy goes on this trip. He then, I guess, had a habit of going up to that area of Pennsylvania for vacations and to clear his head. He had been in a divorce recently, which I would consider a factor. Uh, his car is found.
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His day pack is found, opened. His L.L. Bean boots, their beanie boots, those are found. He's not. It's weird. And you're like, is this, he went hiking and something weird happened weird? Or is this, like, criminal weird? Is this he decided to end his own life weird? Uh... His roommate seemed very caught off guard by the whole thing.
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His family did too, but his family also would only give interviews to one specific outlet. And then it just kind of disappears. And I think this case was in like the 80s or 90s. It's recent. And it just disappears. He's an older guy, to be fair. He's in his 30s. Most of the children's cases we've looked at so far have just really been child wanders off is found. There's a few, though.
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I think Bachman is one of them. It's a 19-month-old who just disappears. And the entire community kind of turned on the family. Yeah. So we're going to be looking into that one. Like, what happened here? But what I find very interesting about it is, just in general, when you look at the cases... Even when there's very little information. Even when it's extremely localized.
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Child goes missing is big news. Child goes missing means everyone in the area is out there looking. And then I think about some of the cases we've covered recently. Like JonBenet Ramsey. Like Sebastian Rodgers. Those parents didn't act right. They did not do what they were supposed to do.
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Yeah, I mean... Granted, like, if you look at the Ramsey case, obviously it wasn't a missing child. But rather than doing everything they could to cooperate with the police... The Ramseys hired a bunch of private investigators and attorneys to conduct the investigation and basically keep the police out of it. And if you look at the Proudfoots, they don't actually really look for the kid.
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They put up some flyers. Somebody was like, well, they paid for a billboard. Like, it's $17 a day. What's your point? That is... not really enough... That is not being on the ground looking. And then they hire private investigator who it seems like. I mean, I'm going to ask Steve a lot of questions when he's on the show, but it doesn't seem to me like he's looking for the solution.
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It seems like he's looking for the solution that does not incriminate the proud foots. That's the vibe I'm getting, which I get it. You're not going to look at the people who hired you. Because that's where your money's coming from. But at a certain point, you gotta acknowledge that there's... There's a little too much evidence.
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But what I was laughing about is Cluminati and her attempt to insult me. First of all, it says it's about attention. It obviously was not. And then... The cartoon version of me was me in a maid outfit. No, it wasn't. It was, which was funny to me because there's an entire episode of this show in which I'm wearing a maid outfit. You gotta dig deep for that. You gotta dig deep for that one.
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Which, I'm not saying Steve is doing that. I'm not saying he's withholding anything. I'm just saying I... I'm genuinely curious as to why he doesn't think that it's the Proudfoots at this point. Yeah. I don't get it. I... There's either good reasons or there is some weird reason for a rose-colored glass. And if there are good reasons, why have you not presented them? Yeah.
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So that's why I'm offering him the platform. If he's got good reasons to not look at the Proudfoots, I want him to lay them out for us.
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But I don't know. I don't like the way that case is being handled by particularly, I guess, the media, but it's not even really the media. It's mostly YouTubers. Occasionally, this stuff does show up on... like Court TV and local news, hasn't really been nationwide news. Not since it first happened, no. It wasn't even nationwide news then because of Riley Strain.
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Yeah, yeah, it got totally overshot. Yeah, I mean, here's the wild thing is if Riley Strain doesn't go missing, Sebastian might be like...
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national news and i really think the only reason why riley strain took over is because there was actual footage of him the night he went missing so and then i love how the nashville police department proceeded to go oh no he just fell in the river doesn't matter that his debit card was found you know like half a mile upstream of where we're saying he went into the water that doesn't matter that he had not decomposed at all after two weeks of
The Lore Lads
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What do you mean you want to see the footage? The last footage? You can't see the last footage we have of him. I mean, this entire area has signs that say that it's monitored by the city justice system 24-7, but why would you want to see that footage? Somebody was like, oh, well, you know, they don't want to give away which angles the cameras are pointed at. I'm like, add another camera.
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So also like what having one camera angle or maybe two doesn't tell you the sum total of what they can actually see. In fact, let's be realistic. It's not even a bad idea to be like, all right, let's put out the camera angles we have that show him. And if anybody decides, oh, wait, I can commit a crime in the spots that they don't have cameras. Just have cameras there.
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And then you'll catch criminals. Also, what crimes are you going to commit?
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When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
Yeah, I mean, here's what I see in that case. Like, a few blocks before Riley disappears, he talks to a police officer. And then he disappears. Might it be a little embarrassing if you're the Nashville Police Department to have to own up to the fact that a tourist passed by one of your officers just moments before disappearing? That might look bad.
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And for a city that depends on tourism as much as Nashville does, you sweep that under the rug. Thankfully, as far as I'm aware, there hasn't been another Riley strain. Not that has come to the media consciousness to the level that he did. So, you know, maybe this was a one-off kind of thing. Maybe it was a victim of opportunity.
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Or maybe somebody who was doing some stuff noticed the heat and decided to lay low. But I look at that. I've seen no good reason to think that Riley strain was an accident. I mean, the area he's in, it's got fences like you have to deliberately try and climb down there.
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That still doesn't explain the debit card.
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But, like... How she's sitting here calling me a bad researcher. Bro, you couldn't even figure out that I actually wore a maid outfit on stream once.
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When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
I think Tommy Booth is probably the one I'm the most angry about out of everything we've ever looked at. Partially because it's local.
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Yeah, I definitely do want to touch on it again. Um... It's just a matter of when, because I'm going to need time to read through that whole case file again and re-familiarize myself. But yeah, down the line. Also, I want to see how this new structure with the channel goes. Yeah. Because we did Ramsey, and then we did Missing Form 1. Or no, sorry, we did Missing Form 1, then Ramsey.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
This week I'm doing Ancient Aliens. The Ancient Aliens Conspiracy. Are you really? I didn't even hear this yet. Oh, I was going to do Nephilim, and then I was like, that's too niche.
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really i figured i could talk about that and ancient aliens at the same time yeah that's fair that's fair that's gonna be yeah well i'm gonna look into sitchin the sitchin stuff oh god i got it okay he's the guy who you know the anunnaki were the nephilim and the gods and blah blah blah and then michael heiser was like that's not what the texts say that's that's not what what are you talking about
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He's got a website that is literally SitchinIsWrong.com. That's an amazing title. Mm-hmm. He's passed away, so just to make sure it stays up, I put it in the archive.
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Oh, yeah. So, I mean, I'll say off the bat, I'm very skeptical about the idea that any of these cases are going to look paranormal. But I do have the feeling a number of them are going to look weird. Probably cases where the police could have done a lot more. Mood madness being chief among them. And there are a few also that I'm just like, what? What happened here?
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One really interesting one that I'm looking forward to getting into was from the 1940s. Where a woman, I want to say her daughter went missing. and she had recently been estranged from her husband because he claimed that the child was not his.
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And then she and one of the men who worked on her farm ended up getting brought in for questioning, and it was never, like, officially determined that she was... that she had done something, but there were a lot of reasons to think that she did, so I'm very interested to go through that one. Um... There's another thing that just came up that I... I can't remember what I was going to say, but.
The Lore Lads
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It was there. You could have just done it. So I just kind of dismissed her and wrote her off. But then I did hop on to Queen Bee's panel because I was not aware at the time that she's apparently been arrested so many times. Like so many times for assault and things like that. Oh, yeah.
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I cannot believe one of you managed to work the squonk into missing 4-on-1, and I gotta be honest, I'm impressed. Well done. That is actually impressive. No, but... Wow.
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I know. I'm working on it. I gotta get skinny. I gotta get sexy. Do you want a calendar of me after the holiday season?
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Also, you can learn about seizing the means of production...
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uh in the sense that it led to the creation of 50 shades of gray on history unhinged which comes out the first episode drops on february 1st over on the channel history unhinged uh tomorrow the first clip drops on that channel so how frequently are we dropping the clips by well the the clips will be i'm not entirely sure yet probably once every couple of days we depending on how many we end up having we will have enough to do one a day if you want it
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I don't want to give away the whole thing at once. That's true. Yeah. So probably every other day.
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And then that will lead up to a February 1st premiere. I think probably around 3 p.m. We want to make sure that we're not conflicting with the unsubscribed podcast for their upload time.
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Why is it Patreon exclusive? Because ammo is expensive, guys. It is, incredibly so. My girlfriend's dad gave me a couple of boxes of .357 for Christmas. Nice. I was like, you know what? That's a great gift.
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I'm sitting there reading through these arrest records and I'm like, listen, they might not be real, but they were sent to me by a source I trust. I saw lying to the cops battery. Well, at least threatened battery. I and on this panel, they're telling me this is the funny thing is on this panel.
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Thank you. I would... I would be very proud if that was the case. I don't know that the FBI would ever say so, but if we were able to move the needle, then that's all I wanted to do. That's why we do it.
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As long as you beat Ohio State, go Irish. Yeah. That is, if you lose to Ohio State, the entire state of Indiana is dead to me. But yeah, I agree. I will not be going on further panels unless it's with somebody that I respect. Fair.
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I don't think it's been announced yet. It's always around the same time though. Mid July, right?
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The only reason we wouldn't is if we're already on the road for a Donner party. Yeah.
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Well, I think it makes the most sense to do it right before the Montana trip.
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We're going to have to figure something out. Yeah, we'll get there though. It'll either be like late May, early June, or it'll be July. So it really depends on what we can get schmoving.
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When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
I'm just going to look that up really quick.
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All right, Newton, New Jersey, missing boys?
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They're telling me like, well, didn't you know that Bullhorn Betty, who what is Bullhorn Betty's relevance to the night Sebastian disappeared? I like Bullhorn Betty. I said that she was like started to go fund me so that she could buy a gun that she said she was going to use to shoot Terry Bauer socks. So I look into it a little bit, and I... No. That's not what happened at all.
The Lore Lads
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So that's part of the complicated issue here is figuring that part out. Um, There are a number of possibilities there. I think that... One thing I'm pretty sure of is that he did not leave that house on foot. Or if he did, that he was wearing shoes. There are a number of possibilities there. I don't know where all of the cameras in the neighborhood are.
The Lore Lads
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I don't know if it's possible there would be a route that he could have taken, that somebody could have taken with him, where they would not have been seen by cameras. I... I mean, one possibility is somebody drove a car up with the lights off and someone carried him out of the house, put him in a car, drove him off. At that point, it doesn't really.
The Lore Lads
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Since nobody knew he was missing for at least six hours after he supposedly was last seen, I. Also, one thing that strikes me as odd that I don't know how it just occurred to me now. Katie said in an interview that late that night she heard a thump from Sebastian's room. Like, you know, somebody had fallen. And that she didn't go check on him. And the story changed a few times.
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At one point it was like, you know, she heard it and she yelled and asked if he was okay. At one point she asked if he was okay and he responded. At one point she asked if he was okay and he didn't respond. At one point she didn't yell. She never went to go check on him, though. He has fluid on his brain. Like, hitting his head could be a problem.
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Well, I mean, we do plan on doing a similar thing to what we did with the Great Smokies. So if you have any interest in coming out with us, we would love the company. I'll let you know when that is.
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Weird that a felon is lying about another potential felon. Wait, so what did actually happen? I haven't... I don't want to go into the details on stream right now. Okay. I will. We will be going into those details. When they become relevant, which will be when we're sitting down with Steve Fisher. He's going to be on the show on the 20th. He is the Proudfoots PI. I...
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at what i don't know quick check with uh q u i c k with normal quick and then check is c h e k i have never heard of that neither have i no it's listen if you like something other than if you have access to wawa and you like something else over wawa you're not dead to me you're just more of like a second class citizen if you don't have access to wawa it's different though
The Lore Lads
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It's kind of how like, you know, in there's the biblical concept in Christianity that if you haven't been exposed to the word of God, well, obviously you can't go to hell because that would be unfair. You know, it's kind of like that. But with with Wawa, I think that's fitting. Yeah.
The Lore Lads
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I liked rudders. They have those like little tornado things. You get a like 7-Eleven. It's just like the tortilla wrapped with meat and cheese. Got some good stuff there.
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I can't hate too much on people that start making content and they take some of the stuff at face value because I used to do the same. Yeah. You know, I... It's more the people who choose not to dig deeper. It's when they choose not to do the work, that's when it becomes a little bit of an issue.
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And I will say it also frustrates me when you have larger content creators, people who already have a platform... who start to go and repeat the same incorrect stories because it's a good way to get content. Like, yeah, it makes a lot of money. It gets a lot of views. I could make two videos, three videos a week if I just uncritically did this. But that's not right. You shouldn't do that.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
We're also going to be sitting down with Tony Mathis and Seth Rogers. Tony is Seth's spokesperson. A lot of people have been like, why does Seth need a spokesperson? I think the exact reason Seth needs a spokesperson is some of the stuff that they pointed to Seth saying on panels where, to be honest, he said some pretty immature and stupid stuff.
The Lore Lads
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No, you shouldn't. And I want to be clear, I don't necessarily think that David Politis is always deliberately going out of his way to leave out information. I think most likely the guy looks into a case until he sees what he wants to see and then stops. Because that's really the only way I can... that's really the only way I can rationalize what I'm seeing.
The Lore Lads
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The little girl. Yeah. Yeah. God. That one actually made me sick.
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I remember her name. Minnie Hawn. Yep, that was it. I mean, hey, let's just gather together a bunch of people in secret and then decide what happened. Like, I get it. It was... like the 1930s, they probably weren't going to find who did it. But at the same time, like... I think it might have been 54.
The Lore Lads
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But, I mean, you'd think... I think what happened is there was this guy who was a drifter who a bunch of people identified as being in the area at the time. And I think what they did was probably go, all right, well... chances are it was that guy. Let's not freak everyone out by saying what this really was. And hopefully it will stop when he moves on.
The Lore Lads
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It was nothing that was incriminating in the case in the sense that like it would have anything to do with this disappearance. But it was stuff where you're like, why would you say that? Yeah, it's just kind of a weird thing to say. So part of what I'm going to do, we bring Seth and Tony on. And Tony said to me that Seth will answer any and all questions. So I'm excited about that.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
So I think that's probably what the mindset was. Yeah. At the same time, if that wasn't the case, not telling people what really happened here just opens up more danger.
The Lore Lads
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I'm not saying that to be like, you know, trying to trick you into sending yet another one. I just don't know where you're sending them, but they are not coming.
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Also, whoever invited us to your wedding, we have received the invitation and we are debating what to do.
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This is to say, invite us to your wedding at your own peril.
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I'll be flipping a coin about whether or not I get hammered. It's a double-sided, like, heads call. Oh, yeah. I will get hammered. I'm going to call it when it lands. Yeah, exactly. I see it.
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One thing is going to do is ask about those things. But I'm also going to be asking Steve Fisher for evidence of the accusations he's made against certain people. I some of the claims that he has made about I. who was where and when and things like that, you know, who has an alibi, who doesn't, you know, what can he verify?
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That's an entirely too deep cut for me.
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I was with you for like the first six words. Once we got to CIA reptilians, I have to be honest. I'm skeptical. I'm willing to believe.
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Known fact that he had a chromosomal condition that caused meltdowns. Hmm.
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Yeah, it's in the tip line. If there's something you want us to cover, that is the best possible place you can put it. In our Discord, bit.ly slash jointhelodge, I... the tip line channel, that is the best place to put stuff. Cause I can go right there and I can look at it. You can post sources, you can post, you guys can have discussions.
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Uh, and there've been a few cases where I've been like, Hey guys, I need help.
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That's coming back. It is. The last Thursday of the month. It will be back.
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Because one of the things that's been coming since the very beginning of the case, law enforcement, to my knowledge, has never actually said that they confirmed Chris Proudfoot was at work the entire night. But Seth keeps saying he was, or not Seth, Steve keeps saying he was, and Chris keeps saying he was. So things like that. But on this panel with Queen B, I hop on. And what was fascinating to me
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Listen, you don't have to, personally, just beat Ohio State. You have one job. Also... Say goodbye to SEC supremacy? What have... I mean... Can we discuss the fact that, like, every SEC team in the college football playoff got blown out? For years. For years, I've been having to listen to my cousin. Oh, BAM is so great. BAM is so good. The SEC is the best. Well, your time has come to an end, Nick.
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Big Ten supremacy time. Also... Official petition because the Big Ten has too many teams. It does not have 10 anymore. It has a lot more than that. I think we kick USC USC out because they shouldn't have been here in the first place as they proved this year. I don't know if you saw it. They did not do well. USC is not a Big Ten team. They don't belong here. Kick them out.
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Rename it to the Big North. I like it. Big North.
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It goes all the way across. Oh, really? Oregon's in the Big Ten.
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Oh, of course. I'm going to send him that, and I'm also going to send him a copy of Ars Geisha because he hates it.
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Oh, we are going to Yellowstone for two weeks to lead to sightseeing tours. We will not be the tour guides. We will simply be along for the ride. Talking about local... local lore and history while the tour guide does tour guide stuff. They are going to be camping trips. These are both already sold out, but they sold out so immensely quickly that we will be doing more of them.
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I probably... Probably going to have a few planned out for 2026. I don't know about the rest of 2025. If there's something we can do in the winter, like fall or winter of 2025, we'll probably do it, but I... For now, it's just two Yellowstone trips. But we went to Alaska over this summer. We're going to Yellowstone next summer, hoping to hit national parks every year.
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We did that stream. This was probably our fifth or sixth stream directly related to Sebastian Rogers. Livestream, by the way. It was also the fourth time we've put out a video essay on the Sebastian Rogers disappearance. Aiden, you know what I found out on Tuesday? What did you find out on Tuesday? None of the people who talk about Sebastian Rogers were aware that we exist. What do you mean?
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Dude, if there was a Trova trip tour that we could just go do the Lord of the Rings stuff in New Zealand? Yes. Oh, I'd be so on it. Granted, I would probably have to take so many sedatives to get on that plane. Yeah. I do not like flying. You'd be fine. After an entire bottle of Xanax, yeah, I'd be fine.
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is there were two things. One, the reason I got on is because somebody told me on Twitter that Queen Bee told her audience in that show that I had been speaking to Seth and Tony. I want to be very clear. I did not speak to Seth or Tony until after that panel. So I hopped on the panel to simply say, just want to, you know, correct the record here.
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Well, I mean, yeah. I would agree with that. I'm confused. I don't know. I'd say most local hole-in-the-wall places are probably better food than a gas station. Generally. Wawa's not good because it's a gas station. Wawa's good because why does a gas station have food that good?
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It's not that Wawa's great. It's that Wawa is great for a gas station.
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There was too much going on. It's basically just Big Wawa. Yeah, that's the problem. It's Big Wawa. They're yelling about meat. Oh, it's such good meat, though. Yeah, but like every 30 seconds, somebody's yelling like, Meats up! And then the rest of them are like, Meats up! I felt very out of place. I don't know.
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You know the clip of Trump from the one rally where they turned the lights on really bright and he's like, ah, turn them off. That's how I felt at Buc-ee's. Got it. Yeah, I did not have a good time. There was entirely too much going on at Buc-ee's. There was a lot going on. It's like a weird combination of a Wawa and a Wegmans. They're bringing them up further north, too. I don't know if you saw.
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They're opening two in Virginia. Yep. Wawa needs to hold the line. We cannot allow Buc-ee's to enter Pennsylvania. I'd be cool with it. See, that's what a lot of people said about the Confederacy, but no.
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I would bargain they probably had good barbecue, too.
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Yeah, that's probably not. Yeah, no. Yeah. I still don't want Buc-ee's. Keep Buc-ee's out of my state. Stay below the Mason-Dixon, you bastards.
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If you mean the one that appears to be a vehicle of some kind outside...
The Lore Lads
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I have never had a conversation with either of these people. I told Seth in who was in my chat. Come on, you know, come on the show. Say your piece. Just like I said to Chris, I Tony eventually called me later that night and he and I had a conversation. We decided they're going to come on the show. Still working on getting that exact date scheduled, but it will be sometime in the near future.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
Definitely the weakest of the trilogy.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
And that opening sequence with River Phoenix. Oh, it's so good. I'm so sad we never got the Young Indy series that we were supposed to get. Also, this might be a hot take. Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is not the worst of the four movies. Could not agree more.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
The game that just came out. I think Temple of Doom is the weakest.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
I mean, considering that in Temple of Doom, they jump out of an airplane in an inflatable life raft. Which, why was that in the plane? They also rip a man's heart out. Right, as he's screaming. Yes. I kind of feel like Raiders of the Lost Ark... Had the same, like, there was probably somebody there to go, George, no, no. George.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
I gotta say, I'm impressed that Harrison Ford has worked with George Lucas as much as he did, because the man hates George's writing.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
He cannot stand George Lucas's writing. He recognized the talent. Oh, yeah.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
I don't like sand. It's coarse and rough, and it gets everywhere. Not like you. You're soft and smooth.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
But what I thought was really odd, really interesting about the Queen Bee one, and I know she's probably going to try and dig up something about me now that I've pointed out the felonious history, but I've acknowledged pretty much every effed up thing I've ever done or said, as far as I'm aware. So, happy hunting, I guess. But...
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
Second best, but my favorite. Also, I gotta say, I think Rogue One is top five. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Also, Solo. Way too much hate for Solo. Still haven't seen it. We'll have to watch. We should...
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
I'll be honest, I had kind of forgotten about Casper, but now I'm definitely going to go back and look at Casper. Yeah. Because I'll be real with you guys. I'm not sure we're going to have another missing 411 cluster after Pennsylvania. Really? I mean, I think we've gotten to the bottom of it. I mean, yeah. Like, it depends if the rest of the cases in the book are as weak.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
Like, the Great Smokies cases were actually fairly strong.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
Most of them were pretty weird. It took me a while to figure out what probably happened.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
pennsylvania so far it's been a lot of this was either criminal or this is not weird we'll see there are there were a couple that i remember being like okay would you want to go through them all even if we did multiple ones per episode that might be what we do is it might be like the ohio cluster is one video yeah the new york cluster is one video
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
Yeah, I think we'll definitely I'll definitely consider doing that. It's just a matter of like, I don't think we'll see another series like Great Smokies. Fair.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
Dude, I have had so many negative interactions with Catholics on Twitter over the last several days because they're just like... you can't be a Christian, you're a Freemason. And then I try to explain it, and it's like, well, the Pope said so.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
I don't think they even got porch pirated. I don't think they got here. Yeah. I mean, hand deliver sounds like the safest at this point. Yeah, but, like, we've had bigger packages than that sitting out on the porch. Here's the thing. Where we are in town is on camera.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
Every time I tried to bring the conversation back around to means, motive, opportunity, the three things you look for with a potential suspect, it was always derailed. Well, Bullhorn Betty. Well, Seth said this during a live stream. That was kind of weird. And if I ever pointed out, you know, well, what about this brazen lie Chris Proudfoot told on this panel? It was, well, why does that matter?
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
Not if I have anything to do with it.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
We may be Yankees, but we're proud Yankees. What was our symbol again? It was the... Oh, the Lore Lodge.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
That is very important because if you get lost, the RCMP will not find you. Yeah. We might.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
guess you went off the road eh it's nice knowing you bud uh and then yeah dopamine farmer was saying it is sheila kern's uh friend that told them was uh said it was lisa all right that's that's an understandable mistake yeah it happens yeah uh that one actually looks pretty interesting so i might might have to take a look at that one there was the evelyn somebody that we also take a look at from the show last week somebody mentioned
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
Yes, that is going to be in there. I was kind of waiting to get to it in the missing form. One cluster series. I will see if I still stick to the series format in that way, but it is definitely one that I want to cover because I'm genuinely curious how David came to the conclusion that it was mysterious based on what I've seen.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
I don't know. What it was to me is it was just good. It was fun.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
Like, that was fun. The fight that Shia LaBeouf gets into that causes an entire bar fight between jocks and socias. So good. Yeah, like, it feels like Indiana Jones.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
I'm like, well, because it is very much related to the disappearance. Like it has directly to do with the disappearance. Bullhorn Betty does not. Seth has a concrete alibi. He was at work at a state prison or a county jail, I think. Like, he has a rock-solid alibi.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
And the Russians were just over the top enough. you can never be as good of a villain as a Nazi but Soviet gets close it's pretty close speaking of which I am almost all the way through Man in the High Castle and it is incredible how the writers thought the audience needed Nazism bad to be explained so much that they have written off any sympathetic characters outside of like one Nazi guy
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
The only reason I'm still watching the show is to figure out what happens to John Smith. Wow. I'm like, you have created a situation here in which you have gotten rid of all of the good characters.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
Everybody that I cared about is gone. The only person in this show that I care about is now a Nazi. Good job, guys. I'm just hoping for his redemption arc. I'm waiting for it. And if I don't get it, I'm going to be mad.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
They also shoehorn in like for the first three seasons, there's no mention of this group, but there's they bring in the black communist rebellion, which I don't know if that's in the book. I haven't read Man in the High Castle. I plan to now, but and maybe I'll even do maybe we can do a video on why the book is better than the movie because Philip K. Dick is a remarkable author. That'd be fine.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
But for the first three seasons, there's a resistance. There's East and West Coast resistance. There's black people. There's white people. There's Asian people. It's all multicultural. They're all fighting for freedom. Also, in one scene, they do the Lord's Prayer. But they do, Bless us, O Lord, in these thy gifts which we are about to receive from thy bounty through our Lord God. Amen.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
And I was like, that... is not the prayer. Why are you going to put a Christian prayer in the show and then take Christ out of it? That's weird. Why'd you do that? But yeah, so anyway, for the first three seasons, the Resistance is... There's the East Coast and the West Coast Resistance. They kind of work together. And... It's great. There's clearly danger. They don't win every single time.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
Some of the Nazi characters, some of them look like they're going to turn good. Some look like they're on the right track and then they go bad. The intrigue is there. There's no ambiguity that the Nazis are obviously the bad guys. But there are Nazi characters who like you're like, oh, so they're beginning to see through the veil. Yeah. Yeah.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
It's their characters that these are good people caught up in bad circles. Yes, exactly. It's like if, you know, and one of the things is, you know, John Smith was an American soldier and then he becomes the Obergruppenführer for like, you know, a large section of the east coast of the United States. And then he starts to see the cracks. And you're like, oh, okay, cool.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
This is going really interesting places. We're exploring psychology and brainwashing and cognitive dissonance. You know, all these really intriguing concepts. And it's like they just fired the entire writing staff in season three and hired Marvel people. And season three, the writing declines a lot. The story's still kind of okay.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
Season four, after having this resistance that you've been building up for three seasons... suddenly in one episode they basically get wiped out and they introduce the black communist rebellion that has not been mentioned once in the three preceding seasons like also like the the japanese also have racial laws Like, what's going on here? There's no precedent for this in the television program.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
One of my favorite things from all of this was people insisting in a lot of these panels and stuff, even back in July when I was covering it, that, oh, well, you know, the Proudfoots both have alibis. First of all, to my knowledge, law enforcement has never confirmed Seth's alibi. Or, it's not Seth, Chris's alibi. What you looking at?
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
And the problem there is, like, I could get behind a group of African-American rebels who have banded together because they're from a racist time period. So obviously they're not going to trust white people. That makes sense. Okay, they're going to band together. But then you made them communist. I could have rooted for the black nationalist rebels, right?
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
Who just want a place of their own where they won't be subjected to persecution and oppression. I could have rooted for that. And then you made them communists. When the resistance the entire time has been we need to return to good American freedom. And now you've got these resistance people working with the communists and you're like... What are you doing here? And none of it even makes sense.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
Like there was no buildup of the story. They didn't introduce this a season ago. It's just suddenly all the people you cared about, they're either irrelevant or dead. Here's the new good guys. We're not going to actually explain their story to you. We're not going to make any of the characters sympathetic. They're actually all a little racist. You have to like them.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
I'm like, dude, just put me out of my misery and the show. Anyway, that's my man in the High Castle rant.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
Actually, it's really good if you just consider the first two seasons the entire show. If you consider the season two finale the end, it's great. It's like, okay, you know, I can have hope for the future. The Nazis are going to crumble. The Imperial Japanese are looking like they're probably not going to maintain their hold. They're nice. And then they just butcher it.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
Also, they're like, you know, the Nazis are going to go off and they're going to go through the portal and conquer all the other worlds in the multiverse. And it's like, the portal is in a mine shaft in Lackawanna, Pennsylvania. What are they going to do? March all of their soldiers out of a mine in Lackawanna? That's the plan? What... Like, into our world.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
I think the government can handle closing a mineshaft.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
Oh, they filled up Madison Square Garden. Yeah. Yeah, there was a large number of Nazis and communists. Yeah, I think people don't remember that or don't recognize how prevalent it was. Well, we haven't been totally truthful about our history. What do you mean? In schools. Oh, no, not at all.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
Yeah, I mean... I find it a little ironic that we had our own concentration camps and that just gets glossed over.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
Oh, okay. Yeah, so I've never seen law enforcement confirm Chris's alibi. That's one thing I want to ask Steve Fisher about, one thing I want to ask Tony and Seth about. And one of the other things I saw was people insisting, this happened mostly on Reddit, I had a bunch of conversations with a couple of people, where they insisted that Katie had an alibi. Aiden, do you know what Katie's alibi was?
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
FDR was not a good guy. FDR was a very bad person. But the Green New Deal. No, that's AOC. You're thinking about the New Deal. FDR did give us some nice national parks. I'll give him that.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
That is shocking. I'll come to The Exorcist, Alice. I'll tell a demon to suck my nuts. What's it going to do? Worst case scenario, it sucks them. We have to end the show. I'm not afraid of demons. You're not afraid of? Yeah. What's it going to do, Aiden? Possess me? I will simply say no.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
90% of the work has been putting everything in the proper order.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
Oh, yeah. I'm going to make fun of John Douglas so hard. The guy who wrote Mindhunter? Yeah. Like, I'm gonna read Mindhunter just so I can make fun of John Douglas even harder. Really? Why? Because he sat across from John Ramsey and watched the man lie to his face and was like, I don't think he did it.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
Didn't he, like, get... There are multiple chapters of John Douglas' book that, like, directly apply to the case. Especially the staging stuff. And then also... Look at me. Look at me. Look at me. John Ramsey had a copy of Mindhunter. The police were like, hey, what's up with this? And he went, oh, I don't know. I've never read it. And the DA just was like, well, he's never read it.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
Of course, the very corroborable alibi. Yeah, literally not an alibi. Like... By definition, I was asleep at home. Can anybody confirm that? No, that's not an alibi. That's you saying you have an alibi. But an alibi typically means that somebody can confirm that you were somewhere else, that you could not have done this. So just really weird. There were a whole bunch of other lies.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
Anyway, gotta go so our social media manager doesn't get angry.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
I will admit, this is the first one where I've just directly said the Ramses are full of shit. Yeah. So, have fun. Have fun with that.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
The Ramseys hadn't opened their mouths much. And now? Well, they went on CNN and they opened their mouths entirely too much. Like for all of those times that their lawyers were like, don't talk to the cops. Absolutely don't talk to the cops. They let them go on CNN. And then they just proceeded to lie.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
Police reports, their own statements, witness statements. I mean, the thing is, most of the stuff they lied about, only the police knew at the time. So, nobody noticed they were lying. Except the cops. My favorite part is that they got on CNN and they were like, as soon as we get back to Boulder, we will be happy to speak to the police and sit down and talk to them. They waited four more months.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
The best part? The Boulder detectives landed in Atlanta that afternoon and had informed the Ramseys they were coming. If the Ramseys really wanted to cooperate with the Boulder detectives, they could have just stayed put. Instead, they ran off to the... They got...
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
They left so fast that Boulder had to reach out to the Telluride Police Department and ask if they could go check and see if the Ramseys were at one guy's ski house.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
Also, I mean, there's the fact that John Ramsey and his lawyers and the DA's office, like a whole bunch of different people had business connections with each other and they were partners and It's the most obvious corruption case in history, and nobody seems to accept that because of one little DNA sample. Pesky little DNA sample. Which we're hoping to get an answer to.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
Hoping to get an answer on that one, but all right. Thank you guys very much for watching. New video coming this Friday is JonBenet Ramsey Part 4, and then tomorrow, the first clip from History on Hinge drops on that channel.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
And these people seem to live in a fantasy world also where Sebastian Rodgers I was never, ever, ever victimized by the proud foots. They seem to live in this fantasy world where I, it was proven in a court that Seth abused Sebastian. They talk about how Seth was kicked off of a military base, all these different things. And I'm sitting there going like, I've heard all of this stuff before.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
And I kind of just let him talk. It was like, I hadn't heard that. That's really weird. And sometimes that was actually a genuine response, but like for the most part, it was like, well, Oh no, I'll have to look into that. You know? Um, also one of them got on like a weird thing about me having like overpaid for my degree and it's useless and I'm not married.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
So what would I even know about kids and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Uh, meanwhile, like most of what I cover is history and it, it's allowed me to have a six figure career under 30 with a history degree. Beat him. Come on, my guy. I remember who it was. Don't be weird. I don't do drama.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
You're making me do drama right now and I don't like it, but I will happily call it out when it comes to my doorstep. So it was just a whole weird thing. But like, for example, the Seth was kicked off the military base. No, Seth was married to a woman who worked on that military base as a spouse. He was allowed on the military base.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
once he was no longer a spouse, Katie never went to the base staff and said, hey, don't let him on anymore. Now, Aiden, why do you think Seth was going on the military base? It was a naval base. Why do you think he was going there? Could be a variety of reasons, but... Well, the reason was that that's where Sebastian's therapy sessions were. Oh, really?
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
So he was just attending the therapy sessions that were held on the base with the base psychologist, who, again, to my knowledge, was not a child psychologist.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
Exactly. But in the state of California, I think they were in the San Diego area, there should have been somewhere that they could have found a child psychologist. But instead, they went with the one they could get for free, which was the one they got through the military, who was not trained to handle child sex abuse. Yeah, I would imagine the VA doesn't really specialize in that. Yeah.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
We put our series out in July and a whole bunch of these people were like getting mad at me for just trying to jump in now. And then the better part was that they like watched our live stream and and somehow perceived that that was the documentary we made.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
Now, why did Sebastian need this therapy? It was because Chris and Katie left him alone with a 13 year old boy who assaulted him. And then they didn't press charges. What was their explanation? Oh, well, in the state of California, you can't press charges against a 13 year old for that.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
Well, in reality, the state of California did not have a law saying that at all when it happened in, I think, 2017. But in 2018, they did pass a law saying that you can actually prosecute children under 12 for those crimes. It's one of the few crimes in California that you can prosecute a child under the age of 12 for. I think there's like five. I think they're all that kind of crime.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
Yeah, it makes sense. So, just weird claim after weird claim after weird claim that are all, as far as I can tell, either totally made up or complete misrepresentations of the truth. I... So, you know, that's it. Also, they just get weirdly personal about everything. You know, I kept trying to keep this, you know, hey, let's let's keep this focused on on Sebastian.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
Let's keep this focused on the night he disappeared. Right. You know, it's, you know, generally the goal of anything that's talking about a missing child that people are trying to find, because I think I pretty well explained that I'm not being paid to cover this. They all had it in their heads that I'm part of some team like green team or that I'm being paid or one of them actually said that.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
And here's what gets me, because I actually went and confirmed this with Brazen. One of them said that Brazen Cyrus, they asked me if I was being paid. And I was like, no, I looked into this because I got a DM from an Instagram on Instagram from Brazen Cyrus. And he said, hey, there's this weird case. And I recognize the name because I'd seen it back in March while I was covering Riley Strain.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
And I said, yeah, I'll look into it. That was it. That was the extent of the conversation. Now, Brazen and I have, you know, chatted back and forth here and there about this case as well as other things since, but they were under the impression that he had paid me, which also, why do you think the Cyrus family would be paying for a YouTuber to point the finger at these two random parents?
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
Why me? If you're going to go pay somebody, pay somebody with a platform. Yeah, we had 500,000 subscribers, but there's people with TV shows. Yeah. That get millions of views. So, I don't know where this came from. We're very grateful for where we are, but we're still technically rather niche. Yeah, we're not the big boys.
The Lore Lads
When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
So then they then accused, they said that At Night Private Intelligence, who is, I guess, the group working with Dog the Bounty Hunter, and I don't know the exact details of that. I've had a few interactions with these guys on Twitter so far, but I don't know a ton of details about them. Anyway, they said that they charge a $500,000 retainer. Therefore, somebody must have paid them.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
How would you feel if your child watches Too Hot to Handle?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
for sure yeah when you're having these thoughts of who am i and you're depressed and you are just trying to figure out your life again how how far after the show did all of that occur within the first year within the first year because that that wave stops you know at first it was like we could put anything up and it was just done crazy numbers yeah
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
And you probably felt like a failure then if your numbers weren't the same. You thought, oh, I'm messing something up.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
If you can't tell- Look at Abby's hair. It looks so good.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
It's getting pretty close to the butt cheek.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
I also take Nutrafol if you're a man, they have Nutrafol for you. If you're a woman, they have Nutrafol for you.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
What was that transition like for you, Emily? Did you feel a crash or some sort of depressive state even briefly when your numbers started to go down and you had less attention on you after the show?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Yeah, I do that.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
you know if it's soup though like soup just it tastes better the next day i think everything tastes better the next day oh yeah i love leftovers and i don't think having it in a different container makes it taste any better no i agree you must have a big fridge if you're putting pots and pans we actually do i've been here in london i've been like how do you that little tiny thing we didn't know what it was how do you how do you get by with these tiny little fridges here we were actually talking about the front door
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
We were on a trip a couple years ago. We met a couple from Paris. Paris. And they were talking about how their friends got an American fridge. No, no.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Abby can fit inside it.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Oh my God. Was that unique to your situation? Because I don't know what the culture is like in the UK, but at least where Abby and I grew up, it was kind of like an expectation to wait till marriage. Was that how you guys grew up?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
You guys have a different sort of blood running through your veins here because I've seen Brits walk around with t-shirts and shorts. It's like 50 degrees out, windy. I don't understand it. Tank tops.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
I will say your city here is so clean. I've been to New York. I've been to LA, Chicago. London is so clean.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
That's crazy.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
That's nice. And everyone seems to have such class.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
I've never seen anything like it. There's people with their hands on their hips. The posters of guys who are like, we're going to fine you 250 pounds if you litter.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Yeah, faggots and peas.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
You call sausages what? Faggots, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, you get faggots, mash, and peas. It's weird because the same language is in completely different meanings. Yeah. You know what's funny?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
When do people start doing those things?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
That meat's been around for a long time. It seems that people in the UK tend to curse a lot more because where we grow up, like, we would use substitute words like... They'd, like, wash your mouth out with soap. Oh, shucks. Or, oh, you'd say shizz.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
16 is legal here?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
I would have to wash my mouth out with soap.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
I did a couple times, yeah. You're kidding. I did, yeah.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Yes.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
18. Okay. I was 16.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
It tastes like soap. It's nasty. Yeah, it doesn't taste good at all.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
I think I did that once. It wasn't a common thing. What'd you say? Probably hell. Or maybe I called my brother a butthole. I don't know.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
We're still chill. Sorry, I didn't mean to.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
And being from different providences, Wales and England, are those considered countries? No, the UK is one country, right?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
from the disney movie don't do it matt literally every time afterwards he's like why do i always try to do accents i always i always panic it was like trying to do it was that british what was that british what was that i don't even know i don't even know it was irish i was thinking oh don't do that again yeah he's trying to be irish i think yeah that was bad okay i shouldn't do that i'm gonna i'm gonna keep that for myself i'll work on that a bit more yeah we'll get a coach
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Thank you to Liquid IV for sponsoring this portion of today's episode. If you haven't tried Liquid IV, you are missing out. Abby and I both drink Liquid IV quite often.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Really? Yeah.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
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The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Was it an expectation, like, yeah, from your family, was it an expectation that you get married before having a baby?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
That's not a thing in the UK.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Growing up, did you think it was different that your parents weren't married as a child?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Were a lot of your friends' parents married growing up?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
is that quite a mental thing for you guys i like honestly growing up i don't think i knew of anybody that their parents were boyfriend and girlfriend really not a single person as far as i remember when you say it like that in your situation it sounds weird but that's basically what we're doing yeah it does sound weird because i was i generally refer to it as my wife because i think me saying oh when i speak to people you said mother-in-law well i'll be honest with you in my mind having a child with someone is a bigger decision than marriage in my mind yeah so i'm like for
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
period of my life was it 18 women that you were seeing at the same time is that true yeah A lot of admin. So that must have been a very big shift to go from that to abstaining.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Your partner. How did that make you feel when Cam called you his wife?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
My other half.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
It's funny hearing you say that because when we first got married, I felt so weird referring to Abby as my wife.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
I thought, I kind of felt judged because I was 21. Oh, wow. My God. I was like, how long have you guys been together?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
we've been together for eight years oh i'm coming up on nine but yeah for you to say for you to say that it was weird uh for him to say wife that felt old to you that's exactly how i felt i was like i hope people take me seriously i'm i'm 21 they probably look at me like a child you know yeah so you came around you and you loved your pregnancy i loved being pregnant oh god i'll do it i'll do it again in a heartbeat well i want to but it's not down to me unfortunately
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Did you just. What did you just say Cam?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
No, I thought your reaction was funny. And the words that you say, the word choices here are so interesting. Someone the other day asked Abby where her parents were from, and she said brilliant after that. I thought that was so cute. That is so cute.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
sweatpants sweatpants oh sweatshirt you just had sweat in the front of it so it's all just pants it's confusing what about what about like tennis shoes or what do you call your trainers trainers trainers what do you call tennis shoes tennis shoes or sneakers when I think of trainers I think of like you used to so these are trainers That's so funny, dude. That's hilarious.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
What would you call that?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Tennis shoes. No. It's the first time I ordered fish and chips. I was shocked when I had fries come out. I was expecting to have chips. You're kidding.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Thank you to Goodr for sponsoring this portion of today's episode. Are you like me and you lose your sunglasses all the time? Yes. So it just doesn't make sense to drop like hundreds of dollars on sunglasses.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Yes.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Well, that's why Goodr is such an incredible option because they have sunnies starting at only $25 a pair. That's incredible. With a one year warranty and a 30 day free return policy, which I mean, come on, that is an incredible policy.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
It is funny though. Ordering here. I can just tell immediately that the person behind the counter knows that I'm American. And it's so. Also, why do they only focus on one of us? Like if I'm ordering.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
They almost act like we're separate. Like we're not together. It's weird. I don't know if that's like a. It's happening every time.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Yeah.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Thank you. Such a gentleman.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
And it was probably free. You probably went to the doctor and didn't have to pay a penny.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
I'd even push a four, you know.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Wait, they actually have medicine for blue balls?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
What was really nice, though, there was a nurse that took Augie for, I think, was it an hour and a half, two hours? I don't know, because I literally just passed out. So that we could sleep, which was really nice. So we got, like, a two-hour stretch of sleep.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
I'm still confused. When Abby had a C-section, I was the one taking care of her baby because she just got freaking ripped open. Like, she's recovering, right? Just as you went through. What are these other moms doing? Because they didn't have a cam to help out with their baby.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Were the nurses the ones feeding the baby? You know, changing diapers?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
but the moms were getting out of bed yeah it makes no sense to be honest how are their like guts staying inside i mean they were just opened up i mean i think you were in bed for quite a while until you got out right to even go to the bathroom was like really difficult like to get up you did get up you did get up to go to the bathroom i mean i could i was getting up but you had a catheter at first right did you have a catheter at first yeah i did how the freak were they doing that
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Yeah, that's just, that's crazy to me.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
You had the lot. Yeah, God.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
we sat down with emily and cam from netflix's too hot to handle in 2022 emily underwent emergency surgery due to an ectopic pregnancy then in a surprising twist they found themselves pregnant again but the birth did not go according to plan we talk about behind the scenes of reality tv navigating fame and whether or not emily and cam plan on tying the knot Cam and Emily, welcome to Unplanned.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
I thought breast milk was dairy. Like, is that not the same thing? I mean, obviously cow milk and human milk is different, but it's not considered dairy if it's a mom's milk. Dairy is only specific to a cow. Interesting.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
So Emily, you thought you were going to die. You had a traumatic birth. You dealt with the tongue tie. Breastfeeding was challenging. How did you end up coming to this realization of, I want another kid?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
I was like, yes, let's go. Because my wife is the exact same way.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Yeah, and we're talking about actual shit, too.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
No, I'm not.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Is that something you plan to do as well?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
No. Was it hard having foster siblings?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Are they recording all the therapy sessions?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Wow. Yeah. You don't really think about that. Like it's so admirable to do that, but that can, that can be a lot, especially it seems like it was also not just a walk in the park for, for you guys growing up.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
If you do get married, when would that probably happen with these potential four children? I don't know. Need to propose first.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Going through the briefs that you had on the show, waiting to make love. Do you have any expectations for your kid? How are you going to talk to them about... You can say sex. Yeah, sex. How are you going to have that talk with your kids?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Well, thank you guys so much.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
And try Joe and Juice. Joe and the Juice.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
This conversation was brilliant.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Abby looks so hot in Revolve. She just does. That's all I have to say.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Yes, I think that would be the right description.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Thank you for having us, guys. Okay, I'm so curious. What did your hospital bill cost with the birth of your child? That's a recent thing, right? You guys are new parents. We are new parents.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
How would you feel if your child, you know, 10 years from now, watches your season of Too Hot to Handle?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
No, no, no, no, no, no.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Yeah, it's crazy.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
I love your take on your son not seeing the show. I mean, is there something that you regret from the show that you wouldn't want him knowing about? No, not really.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Big up the NHS. That hurts. That hurts quite a bit.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Talk to me too about the decision to have a kid. How did you decide that the timing was right?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
The first one, though, did you know you were pregnant for a while and then it turned out to be ectopic?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
I don't know a whole lot about ectopic pregnancy, though. Was there a time where you had the excitement of, yay, we're going to be parents? Yeah, for sure. And then you find out that it's growing not within the womb.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Shauna Rae on Infertility, Leaving an Abusive Relationship & Hiding My Boyfriend from the Public
What?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Shauna Rae on Infertility, Leaving an Abusive Relationship & Hiding My Boyfriend from the Public
No, it's not fine.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Shauna Rae on Infertility, Leaving an Abusive Relationship & Hiding My Boyfriend from the Public
No, it's not fine.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Why do girls say one thing but always mean another?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
What is the most unattractive thing a guy could do? I feel like you could write a book on this. I feel like I do some really nasty stuff.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Arrogance. Am I an arrogant person? No. Okay. Do you think I'm physically attractive? Yes. The next question is, do you think your husband is the hottest, most sexiest man?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Yes, I did.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
The answer would be yes.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
I just want to hear it in your own words, though. I'm a words of affirmation guy, so this stuff means a lot to me.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
If you could just verbally say it for the entire world.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Why? Is it my round touchy?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Why do you compliment my butt so much? I'm like, are you into butts? I do not. Like, is that what women are into? I don't compliment your butt so much. I'm more of a boob guy, but you seem to be a butt guy.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
You do. When my clothes are off, you're like, damn, honey, that's a nice... I do not do that. I don't know. It makes me feel good. I just, I'm going to stop doing squats in the gym though, because my shoulders are tiny. Okay. Is a guy who isn't afraid to show emotions a red flag?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
So like our emotional guy is a red flag. If I'm just like super emotional and I'm just like, I want to talk about my feelings and like really deep stuff.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
That's a green flag.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
And I'm too unemotional to be with someone that isn't emotional. Because you've kind of taught me about my emotions a little bit. Okay, see, that's what I'm saying. You've got enough emotion for the both of us.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
And everyone's just seeing each other with their clothes with their clothes off and dance.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Your dad is the most unemotional person I've ever met in my life. Yeah. And I think that turned you into the... To counteract that, you became the very emotional version of him.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Extremely.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
But you are like... Well, I think they see a different side of you than I see. Okay, that's true. I know you better than anybody in this world because I'm married to you. And... I think that you're very tough physically. Someone would be like, hey, Abby, we're going to put 17 needles into your body. You're like, okay, bet. You don't care about physical pain.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
When you got your IUD, you didn't even flinch. I wasn't in the room, but from what you told me, you got an IUD with no pain medicine, with no support. I wasn't in the room when you got your IUD, babe. And you came out of there like, yeah, I didn't even feel it go in. You just are so mother freaking tough.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
That I think that your emotional side has to make up for it in some way because it's like wow this woman is so insanely like Like if you look at your yourself as a mario kart, you know where you can see like traction speed like if you look at yourself as a mario kart your emotional level would be like extremely high and then the the like feeling pain would be like extremely low because you can just You can just take it like a champ
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Maybe you are missing some nerves, like some nerve endings or something. Maybe we got to get that checked out. I feel like there's not around a lot of women. When you gave birth to our first child, there was so much blood in that room. It looked like you birthed quadruplets. I feel like you probably have some insane pain tolerance. I mean, who can know?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Well, wasn't that a thing?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
And you literally want to keep pumping out these babies. So I feel like you have some sort of secret superpower, some feminine energy that is just like, I don't feel pain.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
What's wrong with asking your girlfriend, are you on your period, when they're overreacting?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
What is the biggest ick a guy could give?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
In any, whatever you think. I feel like you could probably write a book on this. I feel like I do a lot of weird stuff.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
But there's definitely some icks that I give you. There's some minor ones. Like what?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
like that okay i do that wait that's so gross i can't even explain why i do that do you know why i do that you're swallowing mucus yes do you know why you'll make eye contact with you when you're doing it and it's gross and one time you did it like in the bed no no no no no no no like like like in like during like when you say i did it in the bed like where we like was i was i like doing unmentionable things to you at that point
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Unspeakable. Oh, my gosh. Unspeakable. Okay. Wow, that's disgusting. Now that's my new ick.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
That's my new ick. I don't even ever want to see that again.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Oh, shit. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. Okay.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
that doesn't egg me out i like a clean hiding why are you like you gotta you gotta bend it over in the shower because you gotta feel no one needs that visual you need you need a clean hiding if you're gonna compliment my butt cheeks like you do i gotta make sure those are clean okay i don't want any particles of poo on there that's disgusting you don't give me the egg but if a guy were to have long fingernails i think that would give me the egg oh i need to trim those don't look at them they're they're neat they're fairly i i don't like it when they get this long
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
i remember that actually dating you in high school i was like this is so hot this girl wears bikinis like she looks so good that's really shouldn't be strange i saw you look great i was just a teenager that thought you looked hot the thing is i never like changed without clothes on from anybody like i did i did theater like i was never changing the dressing room but we were in our underwear we i wasn't well yeah we were in our underwear too but i wasn't taking my underwear off like our parents generation used to take showers together playing like football and doing stuff like that that
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
personality aches once again ego see why am i see i think i'm just an insecure person because why am i like low-key attracted to that like if someone's really confident i'm like man i wish i could be like oh really yeah like if someone's way too confident and they're probably have an ego no i think you're just very sure of yourself really okay yeah like we had a deep conversation a couple months back where i was talking about how insecure i am and and and you were like yeah i don't i've actually never felt that way ever and i was like that
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
It was so funny though.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
I was like, man, that would be awesome to feel that much confidence.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
I think your confidence comes from a healthy place. I think confidence can come from a positive or negative place and I think yours is very healthy.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Picky eating. Oh, like I only want to eat mac and cheese and chicken nuggets.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
When I told you I didn't like cheese or chocolate, did that kind of piss you off?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Yeah, why does that make you so frustrated?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Well, it is true. You eat pizza. I don't like cheese.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
I don't like that. I actually don't like it. It's nasty.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
I don't eat cheese. It's disgusting.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
I don't eat chocolate at all. I don't like it.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
what is the best way to support your wife during childbirth?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Did it piss you off when I said that you cheated birth two years ago?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Well, cause I feel like C-section is like hardcore, like arguably more hardcore than, well, I don't want to compare the two. C-section is birth. Birth is birth. All of the births are birth. And so me saying that you cheated birth was super insensitive. Like in, at that time,
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Like I was just so happy that you were okay and our baby was okay because our first, for anybody that doesn't know, our first baby got stuck, which was really scary. And so, you know, blood everywhere. It just looked like a war zone. And so for Abby to just like go in, cut open, pop, here's your baby. Like it was so fast.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
And we recorded a podcast where I was like, dude, it felt like Abby cheated birth because it was so fast.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Yeah. And it probably was really frustrating for you to be stuck in bed and not being able to like really care for our baby in the way that you wanted to in the beginning, just because you were.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
But that recovery was insane. Yeah, the recovery was super hard. The C-section recovery is hardcore. So to ever say that C-section isn't birth is... You didn't say that wasn't birth. I didn't say that, but I think people interpret it like that. I'm probably overthinking this so much, but I just... I'm sure you had a lot of angry moms.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
does seem really wild isn't that weird like everyone's just like in the shower together no clothes on i'm sure that in like some like ymcas it's probably still the case well even in the spa like women are naked really yes actually we were just at the spa and there were naked dudes at the spa i know that i'm thinking about but it was like it's always the old dudes though like the young dudes are more no i would agree it's usually the same with women i would say older women just don't give an f and they're just walking around with with see i'm always i'm always going back and
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
I probably did have a lot of angry moms that hated me and still hate me. But that is just the internet. And I just have to be okay with that, I guess.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Oh, yes.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Yeah.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Oh gosh, you saw a cadaver?
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
I just, I'm amazed by the human body. Like seeing your body recover from a C-section after being split open to remove our child.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Crazy. And it's just like when I, and the other thing too is when I said that we were in the early stages of,
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
you seem so guilty about this well i feel bad i feel like if someone if someone heard me say that and was like f this man who just thinks that like i don't matter like i would never here's the deal i never i never want to hurt anybody you can i never want to hurt anybody section next time dude i wish i could for you it's it's it's awful it's awful that there's nothing i can really do other than take care of our baby well i can take care of our baby i can take care of you yeah
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
If you're a man watching this, you need to put the are you on your period question into the no square. Would you remarry if I died?
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
So, you know, I, you know, both times with that, I tried my very hardest to take care of you and our baby as much as I could. But it's like you realize that you're not Superman in those moments. Like it's easy to watch a superhero movie and be like, yeah, I want to be like Superman. I want to be like Batman.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
But then when you realize you're just a human and that you can't go on two hours of sleep every night and like function mentally when you're trying to take care of your wife and baby, it's really hard. What's the best way to show respect towards your wife?
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Go hang out with the boys tonight.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Yeah, like, hey, it's a Saturday night and I want to go bowling with my friends. Is it okay if you do the nighttime routine by yourself and stay home with the kids while they're sleeping because I want to go do something fun? Yeah, that's really good. That's respect. That's really good.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
I've definitely been guilty of that, too. Oh, me too.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
When I told my mom that we were going to move to Hawaii after our kids were in college, you were like, hey, let's have that conversation together first before you freak your mom out. Because I tend to say sporadic things like that.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Yeah.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Yeah.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Yes.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Like say the say all the positive stuff to everyone. Like speak highly of your spouse. Yes. To everyone. And if you're ever going to critique your spouse, do it to their face. But do it in a kind way. Right. But it's kind of like it's like you want to. I was going to say the S word, but I'm going to say crap because I'm trying to be, I've started cursing more, which is, sorry, that's pretty crazy.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
But say crap to your friend's faces and say the nice stuff behind their back. Like that's, that's the true friend right there. When you're always talking positively.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Yeah, say positive things to their face. But it's like, if you're ever going to gossip about your friend.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
What do you mean?
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Well, like, it's just, I don't like, I'm not a huge fan of gossip. I can see the appeal of gossip. But, like, F gossip, dude. Like, if you're going to gossip about your friend, do it to their face. Like, if you have some qualm with them, is that the right word? Say it to their face. And figure it out. Work through it.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Oh, wow. That's beautiful. You should write a book. You're really good with your words.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
You would. If you wrote a book, I'd read it.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
You'd be a great author. You're a great speaker too. You should do speaking engagements. What is so attractive about a guy wearing gray sweatpants? Why are women into that? Is it the shape of the gray sweatpants on the buttocks, the behind?
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
maybe i don't know is that why you're always like you know whistling at me when i walk by yeah i can't contain myself yeah is that why you're always taking your top off when i walk by i i feel like the appeal is just like oh it's kind of giving you know now that i think about it every time i wear gray sweatpants i get laid a lot more i don't know why it works that way are you serious no yeah i have like a getting laid calculator to like get
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
You're joking. I can't stop coughing. And every time I wear the gray sweatpants, it just seems to always happen.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Oh, and then you see their thing, and that just is kind of nasty. I'm not taught. That's not for personal. Are women into that? No, not me. What do you know? Because tell me more about the female species, because guys are kind of into all the shapes and stuff. I don't think that girls want to see the shapes. Of the woman, but do women care about seeing that?
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
What is it that men commonly get wrong about romance?
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Because I feel like I need to ask them in a way that makes me seem like I'm on a TV show.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Playing with your hair.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Rubbing your back. Yeah. Just like all those little things that show that I'm at, like you have the real estate space in my brain, not something else. Like my husband isn't thinking about business. He's not thinking about football. He's not thinking about the kids, even though that you love that I, I'm a present father.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
You want me to be thinking about you and prioritizing your needs because that makes you feel loved.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Would you still want to love me if I stopped taking care of myself? I don't know if that means like sex or if that just means like our relationship. So you can answer that however you want.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
All right. That's good. That's that's the confirmation I needed to let myself go.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
I'm now going to stop taking care of myself because I'm going to still get all the benefits.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
What do tampons feel like? I don't even know who submitted this question.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
You don't even feel it?
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Does it feel kind of good?
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Sorry.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
The final question of the episode.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Yeah, this was brutal. Sorry, everybody, that you had to listen to this. Would you remarry if I died?
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Our producer put this one in. This was not my idea.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
I would want you to. I wouldn't want you to live the rest of your life single. That's kind of depressing.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
That's really sad. You really like live out that idea when I say that every time.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
I can think of one right now, but I can't say it for personal reasons.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Like I dissociate from that. Like I can talk about me dying and not even think about me dying. Does that make sense?
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Like I cried at your grandpa's funeral because I really empathized and felt like
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
horrible for your grandma because i was just thinking about everything that she was going through and that broke me but i usually don't get emotional and i think like that was one of those rare times where i was like like able to empathize i was like this is horrible like this is this is so horrible not only for you not only for your dad not only for everyone that's known your grandpa who's now been gone for a year but like thinking about your grandma that really was just like holy crap you know
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
I need extremely black and white communication. It's literally like, I almost want you to order me around. Okay. Can I tell you what it is? Well, I'm going to tell you what it is right now and then we're going to bleep it out. Okay. Sure.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
If you got remarried like freaking rapid fire after I'm gone, I'd be like, that would make me feel... Like is there a certain amount of time that has to pass? See, I've never even thought about that. But I don't know. The thing is, we're speculating about this as people that have never been through it. That's what I just said.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
I know somebody who lost their wife, and I think they were both in their 70s, and he remarried a year later. And I just don't know what I would do in that situation. I don't know what you would do in that situation. And I'm sure he was probably really lonely. And the person that he lost, he was their caretaker. He took care of his wife. He was an incredible husband.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
you know, I, I don't know him like super well. I didn't like spend every day with him, but from everything I know about this guy, he was an incredible husband from everything that I saw. He just seemed to be an incredible guy and like literally just loved upon his wife for years and really took care of her.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
She was in a wheelchair and, and then he remarried a year later and it's like, yeah, he probably was like lonely. He probably wanted companionship and to just be by yourself at that age would probably be really depressing.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
thank you everybody for listening to another oh my gosh this is another ick I'm sick I'm not trying to call okay this is my ick when men get sick for whatever reason whatsoever under the sun I'm sorry I'm toxic for this but you are toxic for this when men are sick it's an ick keep going when men are sick it's an ick my ick is that you have an ick for when I'm sick I just rhymed I could write a doctor's whose book about that
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
I get terrified of being sick.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
You treat me worse when I'm sick than when I'm not sick because you're just so angry at me for being sick.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
All right. Well, thank you, everybody, for listening again to our episode. And thank you for the review that you left us, Karen. We appreciate that. I think there's probably someone named Karen that left a review at some point on our podcast. And who knows if it was nice. Maybe they were nice, Karen. Maybe they left like a really nice review for us.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Yeah.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
That's really sad. We asked you guys to submit juicy questions guys are too afraid to ask. Thank you to everyone that submitted their questions on our Unplanned Podcast Instagram. Our first question, starting off strong, is why do girls talk about sex so much and intimate topics with their friends?
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Do you know I don't care about that nearly as much as you do, but I've been training myself.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
You do that?
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Well, okay. Let me give an example, though. If I'm getting you food, instead of asking you what you want, I just kind of decide for you because I know that if I choose the right thing, that means a lot to you, which now makes me realize I shouldn't have asked you if you wanted chicken today. I should have just gotten you steak. Sorry, babe. It's okay. I effed up.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Abby likes steak tacos from Chipotle, but she was having an aversion to steak, and then I started getting her chicken, and then she realized she could eat steak again, and I asked her if she wanted chicken or steak, but I should not have done that.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Let's go. Steak from Chipotle is superior. It's just the superior protein of choice.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
I'm thinking about the conversation we had with your dad the other day. We were like, Matt, would you, Abby's dad's name is Matt. I said, Matt, would you rather be married to someone who's ugly and nice or hot and mean? He said, hot and mean.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
No, I feel like most guys would say that. I would say that.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm joking. Okay. It's a joke. What's wrong with asking your girlfriend, are you on your period when they're overreacting?
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Yeah, that would be bad. Do I need to explain that? I was reading that as someone asking one of their friends that's a girl, like two of their fellow gal pals. But now I'm realizing this is a man asking this question, referring to their girlfriend. I just forgot that men can have girlfriends because I've been married to you for so long. I just assume everyone's married.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Yes.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
femininity you're like their cycle you know a lot of men i think think in very like black and white terms or like little squares that's how my brain works and i feel like if you're a man watching this you need to put the are you on your period question into the no square like you've never asked me that that is a square and that's why it's in the no square i just don't ask that question what is the hardest thing about being a woman
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
I actually do want to know what that is, because I feel I feel like there's probably a lot of there's a lot you could talk about right there.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Talk to me about the hormones after having a baby.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
If you were a man, what would you do first? I'm laughing because I know what my answer would be if I was a woman.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
I don't want to be a woman.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Yeah. I like being a man.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
I feel like it's a healthy place to be where you were just like happy.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Do you think the same way as me? Because the other day I was thinking I really wouldn't change anything about myself. Like, sure, I have flaws, but like, but I like being me. Like, do you feel the same way? Like, do you like being the person you are?
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Well, it's kind of like the grass.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Yeah, it's like if you always think the grass is greener, it's like maybe you just need to water the grass on your side of the street.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Water your own grass.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
What is the biggest ick a guy could give?
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
yeah that's how that's actually how i feel like like why was my first initial thought to be like walk around with no shirt on when that's not even like really a desire i see that was that was why i was laughing is because i would have looked at myself naked immediately if i was a woman assuming that i still have a man brain because i'm just you know if i would like i like literally today i want to walk around in the man body do you like the words of affirmation that i give you when you get out of the shower is a little too much
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
What's shocking to me is it sounds like you and your lady friends will just like drop your drawers in front of each other. Like you guys have seen each other. Haven't you like seen each other without your clothes on? Because I don't just see my dude friends with no clothes on.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
They are. They are. But, you know, you got to live life on the edge.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Like when I see you after you get out of the shower, when you get home from the gym with the kids and the kids are napping, I'm just like freaking stoked.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Okay. Getting home from going to like the zoo with the kids or something. Yeah. I'm stoked to see you not only because you're naked, but also because I just genuinely think you're an awesome person. And I think in those moments you want to be alone because you've been overstimulated with the kids the entire morning and you just need some time to yourself.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Isn't that like an escape though? When you hop, when I see you scrolling, I can tell that you're stressed or something's on your mind that you're trying to remove from your brain because when you're just scrolling and scrolling and scrolling, it seems like, yeah, like it seems like you're looking for a dopamine hit to like relieve stress.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Maybe you just have more confidence than me.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Like after that? That's good. That's good.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
If you're having a bad day, what is the best way that I can help as a husband?
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
When I told you I didn't like cheese or chocolate, did that kind of piss you off?
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Taking the mental load.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
I think a common thing in relationships that I've seen just through looking at other people's marriages and looking at our marriage is oftentimes guys gravitate towards being Mr. Fix-It Felix and trying to fix everything. Women tend to want to, at least from my experience, want to talk about their feelings With wanting to fix things, I turn to work. I turn to business.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
I turn to, oh, what's a financial way that we can fix our problems? But you're just like, dude, can you just take the mental load of doing our children's... Both of their bath time routine, night time routine, teeth brushed, milk, diaper changes, reading them books and putting them to bed because...
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
You know, yeah, we tag team on the nighttime routine pretty much every night, but sometimes there's days where you're just like, I don't have energy at all. And so if that's a day where I can just take on the mental load and say, hey, just chill on the couch, you know, close your eyes, read a book, whatever you want to do. I'm going to do the nighttime routine with our kids completely on my own.
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Like, I feel like that would be a good way.
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Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask
Okay. Or the mental load of like planning presents for a kid's birthday party, like something as stupid as that, you know? Cause a lot of times I think those things fall on the women and men just expect for their wives to sometimes like by accident, expect for their wives to just always be the one to pick out the gifts for the kid's birthday party and plan this and plan that.
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And that's still work on, on the woman, you know?
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Happy Holidays!
Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays from Matt and Abby and Santa Claus apparently.
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Happy Holidays!
And up to this point, I just cannot tell you from the bottom of my heart. We are so grateful for you. If you're a listener, if you've listened to one episode, if you've listened to every single episode of the Unplanned Podcast that's ever been hosted,
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Happy Holidays!
We are immensely grateful for you and just hope that you really truly feel that through your device, however you're listening, that like we truly, truly mean it, that we don't take it lightly that you welcome us into your homes and into your car rides and into your chores or making dinner. We do not take that lightly and we truly, truly, truly appreciate it.
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Happy Holidays!
And I think there's a lot of things you're going to really love coming up in the new year too. Yes. So enjoy the end of 2024 and we look forward to talking to you again in 2025. Yeah.
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No one in our family is giving me an answer. Your dad just laughed at it.
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So I think that means he thinks I'm more high maintenance.
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And I said, at least take me out to dinner first. I've talked otherwise about this. When you're married, the way that you just kind of have to get used to getting grubbed.
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i strongly disagree uh well i mean like the fact that it's for a good reason makes me not strongly i'm like okay well they had good intentions supposedly but um no i feel like here's the thing you can not tell your spouse something but it could be like an honest thing where it's like i didn't even think of i forgot to tell you i didn't
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think about this or i didn't think it was like as important as it was blah blah that's different than keeping a secret is like an intentional like i'm withholding this information yeah like my parents are flying in to visit us tomorrow and i've kept that a secret from you um but i probably should tell you so i'm gonna let you know they're not are they i'm gonna let you know that right now are they just kidding oh i'd be excited really yeah okay my grandma's flying in tomorrow yeah you're right probably be a big easter party that'd been a huge party oh my gosh that would have been really fun
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wow way to get my hopes up sorry i was just gonna see how you were gonna react um no i think that's a given anything that you're like intentionally withholding means that i mean can you think about a lie that would be for a good or a secret being held would be for good reason oh wait a minute i can actually what like if i was gonna throw you a surprise birthday party i'm keeping that a secret yeah that's actually a really good example so there could be some good reasons yeah you cracked the code you're too smart for this game babe
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Well, any game should have a winner.
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Never have boring moments together.
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What's an example of a boring moment?
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Yeah. I feel like as parents, there's not a lot of boring moments until they go to bed. It can feel boring because you're like, man, I just operated at such a high level of like
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It's been a while. It's been a really long time ago.
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Well, I mean, I feel like it's a good strategy because... Yeah, because we're all hanging out tonight. We're doing Survivor Night tonight. Yeah, I know. Like, if I like them... And they're married to someone that's probably similar to them. Yep. And you're similar to me. Yep.
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Then we're probably going to be a good, have you ever, have you ever had a couple of friends that's like, we only like one of them? Cause I hear about that a lot, but I can't really think of.
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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I can as well.
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So the thing is, is that that rarely happens. So I feel like the majority of the time. Um, so yeah, I think it's important to be friends. I'm not friends with some of your friends though.
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Yeah, I think it's OK if your spouse isn't like super close with your friends. But I think it's like you should at least be familiar with them. It's a little just it's a little weird otherwise.
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No, but we're talking about the moment.
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I think in the moment, maybe a little bit, if you're thinking about like, oh, I have to curate this into something, but if you're just capturing it for what it is, then it's not, not really.
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Can we talk about the fact that you literally twerked at our kid's Easter egg?
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Like you can do both and it's still like super fun.
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Yeah. And that was so fun to watch back because I hadn't seen any of that footage and it kind of just like brought me back to that time.
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Yeah. No, you kind of convinced me of that answer. Because at first I was like, no. Then I was like, yeah, you're also a words of affirmation guy.
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So maybe you're coming from that perspective.
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Matt is the more jealous one.
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I don't even know how to compare that. We're both not jealous at all. I think it's because we've never.
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No, like jealous if like a guy gives me attention. We don't really get attention from the other. We're not putting ourselves in those situations. Yeah.
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Well, I think that's because we've never been cheated on or anything. We've only literally only been together.
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I feel like if I had been like, if someone had cheated on me, I would probably be a lot more sensitive to that. Or if you were putting me in situations that made me feel jealous, like if you were going to the clubs with your single guy friends and like going out and drinking and partying with other girls and stuff, then I would feel jealous.
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But you've never put me in a position where I need to feel jealous.
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And likewise, I wouldn't do that for you.
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That's not on us. That's whenever someone cheats on the other person.
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No. Yeah. We're so blessed. Yeah. That's the other thing where I'm like really glad we got married young is that we've like We were protected from a lot of realities of the dating world now. I have talked to some single girlfriends I have about it. They say it's rough. It's rough. I think movies really romanticize the dating game. Obviously, there can be so much fun and joy in it. Oh, totally.
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No, I was like, well, Matt can actually twerk. And then we're like, let's see it. And then you just did it. And I was like, I love that you're always down.
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Totally. over romanticized all of that is like anything but um i feel really like thankful that our story is the way it is but to summarize that i feel like neither one of us is jealous literally even a little bit so we can't even really answer that one couples should always have a joint bank account I don't feel strongly about that.
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You could convince me of a reason that would make sense.
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I have friends that have separate bank accounts.
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They fail to see the life in color.
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I feel like most people just want something tangible, something to rip on and do.
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That was very cool. Abby is the stricter parent.
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an easter egg hunt for two-year-olds you know it just seemed like the right time i mean we're out where else are you gonna do that when you're a parent how do you feel about the fact that i've been taking over your group fitness class i've been one of the only husbands to come like every single time now it's fun having you you like having me there yeah it's really fun well okay does it feel like i'm interviewing you only going for a week and a half i told someone i'm just like no offense to you but i'm just waiting for him to fall off the workout we'll see how long that lasts i just don't want to are you sore
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Yeah, I will say I feel like we're a united front when it comes to discipline with the kids. Like I don't think our kids would be like, oh, if mom or dad says no, they'll come to mom. Like I don't think they're I don't think they'd ever think that. I think they know that we like agree. That whatever you say goes and whatever I say goes.
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I think that's totally age appropriate. Right now, they're trying to learn the dynamic of our family. They're testing the waters. They're testing us.
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I can be tough on them.
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They're also one and two.
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They're really, really, really, really good kids. They're such good kids.
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Me too. We haven't really had to enforce that too much.
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Abby starts more arguments.
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I feel like I'm just more observant of things.
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Yeah. I think you're smarter than me. Made it to a fault. I'm not smarter than you.
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What makes you say that?
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yeah the music oh it just like hits me like a train but for you like you get to that level so easily with people and i think that's really cool well thank you yeah i would say i'm definitely start more arguments i'm just more sensitive to in general to things that's okay and also i want to fix things like if i'm like oh this is something that's like i gotta fix it
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You don't say, let's go to bed. You say, let's go to bed.
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Okay, I have my opinion.
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I'm going to say agree. In the circumstances that both partners are home. I saw this online.
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I saw this online today. Someone had commented and had a lot of people agreeing with it. Like, if a man works and a woman stays home, that man should never do a dish. I disagree. Because then the woman is always working.
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yeah and the man gets time off true and so i think that if you're both home so like say mom stays home with the kids she normally she's going to be doing more percentage of household chores in the end because that's that's her that's what she's doing during the day yeah she's not going off to work but as soon as dad comes home it becomes 50 50 yeah
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That's really good advice.
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And you know, it fluctuates too.
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Okay. This is Abby wears the pants and the relationships.
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I wear the pants. It's okay to look through your spouse's phone without asking.
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I read your texts all the time. Just because I need to know what's going on.
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No, I shouldn't say all the time, but I do read your texts sometimes if I'm like, oh, I wonder if so-and-so has gotten back with him. Because if I'm like, hey, ask so-and-so about this. And it's like something that has to do with our girl plans. If it was something about their personal life, I would not.
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Yeah, I think that's another reason why I look at your texts. I'm like, there might be something important in there.
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I'm trying to help you out.
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Do you find yourself reading my texts?
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You just said, oh, 100%.
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No, Matt, first of all, does not hide at all. Actually, the instructor, Mac, she DMed me after that. She was like, I knew during that class that he was going to be down bad after this. Your face doesn't hide at all. When you're in pain, you're in those stability ball circles. You're facing there. You're like...
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But do you think it's okay? Like, if you wanted to read through my text, do you think that's okay?
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Yeah, I wouldn't think twice if you were reading my text. I mean, I would think twice because you don't often do it, but I'd be like, why? I wouldn't be like, what the heck are you doing?
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No, that doesn't really exist in marriage.
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I think you shouldn't do that in dating, probably.
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You've always wanted to live outside the United States.
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Well, that actually leads us to another question. You want to live in Arizona forever?
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I mean, I think, like we said before, we're only 26. I don't think I could confidently say that I want to live here forever. But I could also say that if someone told me, like, oh, I have a magic ball and you're staying in Arizona forever, I would be completely happy.
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That is true. I want to die in our house forever.
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When I'm really, really old. Okay, this is the last question of level one.
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Oh, I'm sorry. This is level two.
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The guy should always pay on the date, even while married.
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Yeah, that's kind of awesome.
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At least take me out to dinner first. I've talked to other wives about this. The way that you just kind of have to get used to getting, like, groped. I'm not saying this in, like, an inappropriate, like, it's inappropriate. It actually bothers me. It's really, like, I feel like an object. No. But, like, when you're married... I feel like there's just so many things.
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I'm like, well, I just can't believe that this is acceptable behavior in my life at this point.
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And I said, at least take me out to dinner first.
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I'm not the first person that's ever said that.
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I feel like I'm always cracking jokes and you just don't notice it.
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You looked like you were going to throw up.
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Well, please let me know in the comments below if you've been married for – or if you've been together for, like, almost a decade. Just get used to this type of thing. Like, I honestly will tell you every single time I take a shower in the middle of the day, I just know that I'm going to have an audience. Like, I just know. It's just going to be –
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Even sometimes when I go to the bathroom, I'm like a little privacy at this point.
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You do. You'll come and talk to me.
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Yeah. I'm not coming in for a bathroom show.
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Oh, wow. You with the boundaries.
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Okay. We're finally on level three. Do you want to do it or you want me to do it?
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Okay. This one seems really, really actually intense. Abby is more avoidant than Matt.
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Google it. Like, what does that mean in a relationship? Like, you're an avoider? Like, you don't want to talk about things?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're like, I just want to move on.
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Well, it says Abby is more avoidant than Matt. I would say no. I can't be avoidant and also the one that starts more arguments. I start more arguments or I'm not avoidant, okay? Cheating is unforgivable.
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You don't have to do the same thing that she does.
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Was this someone you knew?
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i would i had to i'm a competitor i'm very competitive does it feel like your masculinity is in question if that's the case let's not talk about that but anyway i just i was like i need to at least be doing the weight that she's doing and i was shaking i was shaking you were struggling and then when i came up into the bedroom literally like three hours later he sprawled out she was sprawled out wasn't moving and then i showered he was still hadn't moved
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Well, I think it's fair if someone was cheating with a coworker to be, I think it's fair to be like, if we're gonna mend things, you need to find another job.
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I'm grateful I've never had to like think deeply about this, but I do know that I've heard a lot of stories where there's been like infidelity in a marriage and they go on to have a beautiful marriage.
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That blows my mind because I really don't know anyone personally that's ever.
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Even in like my parents' generation, I don't know anyone.
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Wow. How often do you think about stuff like that?
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Well, that's a very famous book. It's called The Scarlet Letter.
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I think I did actually say that. Yeah, give me knocks. I teach you so many things.
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I'll read it, too. You want to read it with me? It was for adults. It was this exact concept. We should read the book together. I think they did it to women, and I think they actually did stuff like this.
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Yeah, let me look it up. Is it real? It's a fictional book, but it's based on real historical practices and events. Wow. Yeah, the Scarlet Letter A for Adultery draws inspiration from the strict moral laws and punishments enforced in colonial Massachusetts, according to... No way. Yeah. And I think, obviously, they were only marking women for adulteresses, not like... That's so screwed up.
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We should both read The Scarlet Letter. I don't think it's like a long book. I feel like people read it in like middle school. Yeah. I don't think it's unforgivable. But I also would never look at... I would never look down on someone that's like, oh, I had to end that relationship or even divorce them because they were unfaithful. I wouldn't get that.
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But you also have to ask yourself, you know, every situation, like we said, there's so many... There's so much nuance. And like, are there children? How many times was it? Was it something they came to you about or did you just find out about this? Like there's so many layers to every situation.
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And so, yeah, honestly, the older I get, the more that I'm just like, man, I don't think I can hold tight to like as many things that I used to be like, oh yeah, I would never deal with that.
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Social media is more harmful than beneficial for a relationship. Like for people doing things like this.
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It depends on how you use it.
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you got to take accountability for your feed. Like these algorithms are regurgitating to you based on what you fed it. So if you're, if they're regurgitating brain rot to you constantly, then you're clearly not using social media for beneficial reasons. And it's not something to like beat yourself up about, but it's something like, okay, I got to take accountability for this.
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Like this is so addicting. I can't get off of it. Blah, blah. It's like, well, what are you doing? Like what?
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so do i think social media is more harmful than beneficial for a relationship i think it can be like if you're a guy oh my gosh where was i oh we were at like a pool and i saw a guy who i'm almost positive was there with a woman and he's scrolling very publicly like it was an indoor setting so i could see it very clearly i think you told me about this guy all like nakey ladies where they were wearing underwear
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Like, there were clearly creators that were making sexual, like, explicit content.
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He has no shame. And I wasn't, like, trying to snoop at all. It was just the angle of where he was at was literally, like, also five feet from me. And I was just like, what in the... That is an example of social media is more harmful than beneficial for our relationship. Yeah, that's true. In that situation.
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Now, he might have been single, in which case I would say... he could probably be using his time more effectively.
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I don't think that's good for your brain, probably.
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Yeah, I think I've felt that before.
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And that, yeah, but I do think it can be used for good as well. For like, I think about recipes. That's the first thing that comes to mind.
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Matt wishes his parents lived closer.
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Okay, nine years on June 23rd.
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Well, I was going to say, I wish that they were closer just because... I mean, I understand, obviously, they live their own life. They don't have to follow us everywhere. But just because... Sometimes I'm like, oh, dang, I hate that, like...
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our kids you know you want it to be fair between the grandparents like the time with the grandkids but our kids are still young i feel like you know life changes a lot and we love them and honestly it's really special getting to visit them and getting to do like you know unique things making real memories it's like okay i don't do this every day so like this is really sweet and they talk about them all the time grandma and papa yeah and josh uncle josh uncle josh
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Totally. Yeah. If you listen to our podcast every week, you probably know a lot about us. Yeah. And if you still want to listen and hear us talk, then... We'd probably make good friends.
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Not true. You need to go deeper with your friends then.
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Sometimes I'm just like talking about some like deep, deep stuff.
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Or like just like stuff. I'm like, okay, yeah, I would never talk about this online. And I'm just like at the park and I forget that it's like a public setting. Yeah. And I'm like, oh. Yeah. Yeah. I go deep fast with people.
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Also, this is just a game. This is just a game.
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I'm so glad that's a feature because the last thing I want to do is haggle someone.
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I think it's a case by case basis. Like I think if you were to say everyone should get married at 20, I'd be like, Oh yeah, I strongly, strongly disagree with that. But clearly we were meant to be together.
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I don't think there is anything to be gained by like waiting to make that official. Like we were already like prioritizing each other as like a couple at that point. And like, We'd been together for three years. We had pre-marriage counseling. We had a really sturdy group of friends around us and like community. We had mentors. We read a lot of books. We were financially stable.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Married couple plays agree to disagree
We had pre-engagement counseling.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Married couple plays agree to disagree
I think the stigma around counseling is changing and that's good. I think we're still making progress, but- Yeah, I feel like we were in a community where that was like encouraged and praised and it wasn't like no one was making you feel like, oh, maybe they're struggling with something. Like the fact is that you have a lot to learn and you got to learn it really fast when you get married.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Married couple plays agree to disagree
I want to do that. And Rocket Money has over 5 million users and has saved a total of $500 million in canceled subscriptions, saving members up to $740 a year when using all the app's premium features. And I believe that because we were watching Survivor with our friends the other night and everyone there had Rocket Money.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Married couple plays agree to disagree
And so it's good to like prepare yourself and to be, you know, forward thinking. So that's why I disagree with that because I'm like, we literally worked on ourselves a lot, worked on ourselves as a unit. I think that there was a lot of wisdom in making that decision. And I think that our age was just,
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Married couple plays agree to disagree
Okay, one, two, three. Agreed.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Married couple plays agree to disagree
The last one we disagreed, but we agreed in disagreeing. This one you're saying you disagree.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Married couple plays agree to disagree
Wait, Louis, I want to know, are you being honest with yourself?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Married couple plays agree to disagree
Give me an example of something that I am more high maintenance about. I'm not like totally disagreeing with you, but honestly, we're both not high maintenance, though. OK, thank you. I was like, sheesh.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Married couple plays agree to disagree
No, but the question is, who's more high maintenance?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Married couple plays agree to disagree
But they're so difficult to cancel that we need an application because I'm telling you, they do this on purpose, obviously. But Rocket Money is a personal finance app that helps find and cancel your unwanted subscriptions, monitors your spending, and helps lower your bills so that you can grow your savings.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Married couple plays agree to disagree
You need to be more aware of the chomping.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Married couple plays agree to disagree
With the chips that you just ate, it was like. And it was like every time you bit into it, I was like, they're not that crunchy.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Married couple plays agree to disagree
I think I started to bite. Especially if I'm not eating, just don't get close to me.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Married couple plays agree to disagree
Like, I can block it out more if I'm also eating.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Married couple plays agree to disagree
But, yeah. When we're talking about high maintenance, I don't think either of us... I'm not saying you're, like, particularly high maintenance, but I think you're more high maintenance. All right. Like, I could be completely content with, like, a really stripped-back lifestyle. Like, no, like, big, like... Let's go travel the U.S. in a van and see every state in a year.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Married couple plays agree to disagree
I'm much more content with a simple, basic life.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Married couple plays agree to disagree
No, I'm glad we're near a Costco. Yeah. Does that make me high maintenance?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Married couple plays agree to disagree
I want to ask everyone in our family this question and see what they say.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Married couple plays agree to disagree
Yes. You need to bully them into getting it.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Married couple plays agree to disagree
And your family or my family?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Married couple plays agree to disagree
Yeah. Therapy. No, I just think sometimes like... You got to think about your basic needs and that's rest, food, low stress. You got to think about all the factors that can make you already feel more reactive. And at night, a lot of those are high or can be high. And so it's not a good time to like approach a touchy subject.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Married couple plays agree to disagree
So if you just feel it brewing, just like now I'm not saying just like walk your separate ways and be mad and just be over with it. It's like put a button in it and say like, hey, sorry, you're feeling angry. Let's talk tomorrow at noon about this.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Married couple plays agree to disagree
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The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Married couple plays agree to disagree
You don't have to do that, but you got to celebrate that. You got to talk about it. You got to talk about the highs and lows of the year, things you want to do differently next year, what new goals you have, because that's how you keep it fresh.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Married couple plays agree to disagree
Here's the thing. I like to celebrate literally anything. I just want to have a fun time and have everyone together.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Married couple plays agree to disagree
Ooh, yeah, there it is. It's actually illegal.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Married couple plays agree to disagree
See, for me, that isn't even PDA.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Married couple plays agree to disagree
They do not. I want to see if your family has responded to the high-maintenance thing.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Married couple plays agree to disagree
Wait, when? What's your example? I always think about Six Flags. I just feel like there's always people doing things that are just not appropriate.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Married couple plays agree to disagree
I don't really have an answer. I don't feel here nor there about that because I feel like we both have certain things that we worry more about.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Married couple plays agree to disagree
Like I can think of certain things I'm like oh yeah I'm not carefree in that area whereas Matt's more like easygoing but then likewise for you. I guess I'll give it to you in more in general I'll say you're more carefree.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Married couple plays agree to disagree
No. I want to know, are you being honest with yourself? Abby starts more arguments.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Married couple plays agree to disagree
We need to do a whole episode on phrases that Matt gets wrong.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Married couple plays agree to disagree
I like to go by the seat of my pants.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Married couple plays agree to disagree
I don't know where it comes from.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Married couple plays agree to disagree
No. That's so weird. Not life by the seat of my pants. Go by the seat of my pants.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Married couple plays agree to disagree
Live by the... It's not live by the seat of my pants. It's go by the seat of my pants.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Married couple plays agree to disagree
I feel like I'm just more observant of things.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Married couple plays agree to disagree
you're very logical you don't go by your instinct you're very very logical i'm more instinct i'm like that just doesn't feel right that doesn't feel good you're so realistic and logical matt i'm not this isn't a dig but you're not really you don't even you're not aware of your own instincts i'm not offended you don't be better than me so i'll give you that i'm right you're right and i'm wrong you don't even know your own instincts i don't know you know me better than me let's just say yeah
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Ramit Sethi on Prenups, Renting vs. Buying, & Joint Bank Accounts - Financial Advice for Couples
100%.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Ramit Sethi on Prenups, Renting vs. Buying, & Joint Bank Accounts - Financial Advice for Couples
Yes!
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Ramit Sethi on Prenups, Renting vs. Buying, & Joint Bank Accounts - Financial Advice for Couples
You just look at each other, you go, it's one of our rules. Of course we're going to do it. Das war's für heute. Bis zum nächsten Mal. So, these are rules that are meaningful to you.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Do you schedule it out in your personal life?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
You have to create margin for that too. See, I started falling in love with using our calendar and I was like, babe, we should put this on the calendar. She was like, ain't no way.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Not that one. You have to come up with a code. We can have a private calendar, you know.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Oh yeah, we did have a code word. We had a code word. You can't say it in case our family didn't pick it up.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
We gotta find a new culprit.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
We have had basically every family member listen to our podcast. But I think
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Ich habe viel Respekt für dich, weil du auf deinem Show gesagt hast, dass deine Frau zu dir kam, als du in der Mitte von Hustlen, Hustlen, Grinden, Grinden warst. Und du hattest all diese Gesprächsveranstaltungen und spartest viel Zeit in diesem Arbeitsquadrat deines Lebens. Und du sagst, dass du bemerkt hast, dass du viel von dem, was du für Arbeit machst,
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Es war nicht nur für deine Familie, sondern auch für dich. Es war, um dein Ego zu erfüllen. Und ich glaube, viele Männer, auch ich, können daran zu sprechen.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Wir haben ein letztes Mal ein Video gemacht, in dem wir auf Reddit über Beziehungsgeschichten reagierten. Und es war ehrlich gesagt witzig, wie die Antwort auf jede Beziehungsgeschichte war, ihn zu verlassen, sie zu verlassen. Es ist egal, was die Situation war, es war einfach so, dass du mehr verdienst und du bist besser als sie. Warum preist unsere Kultur diese Botschaft heute?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Was hat dich in deinem Leben verändert, nachdem deine Frau dich damit verabschiedet hat?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
War das schrecklich, in der ersten Therapie-Session zu gehen?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Nur weil du dein Herz rausbringst und Dinge teilst, die du eigentlich noch nie jemandem gesagt hast?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Und deine Tochter wollte mit dir spielen und dich zu halten, nachdem sie Angst hatte, dich zu halten. War das nur wegen einer emotionalen Veränderung, die in dir stattgefunden hat, nachdem du zur Therapie gegangen bist?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
So do you have all of your family values listed out on a wall in your household?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
So even the kids have input into what's in the values.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
If you wouldn't mind sharing, what are a few of the other ones?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Your hair is beautiful.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
All you have to do is order online with no prescription needed and enjoy free shipping, automated deliveries and up to 20% savings with the subscription. You'll also get free naturopathic doctor consults and a headspace meditation membership.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Hmm. I'm a very curious person and so I love hearing all of your hot takes all of your opinions because I admire how decisive you are I admire how when people present you with a question you seem to just know die Antwort, aber ich glaube, meine Frage für dich ist, ich weiß nicht, ich fühle mich, dass du es tust, aber meine Frage für dich ist, ist es etwas, das dich gerade interessiert?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Wow. Das ist ein großer. Ich erwarte, dass du das sagst. Ja, das ist der, der mich immer wütend macht. Wow.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Wie weißt du, wann deine Gefühle richtig sind? Und du fühlst dich valid in dieser Art und Weise? Und wie weißt du, wann du deine Gefühle nicht vertrauen kannst?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Wild.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Ich habe das gemacht. Und schau, was passiert. Ich habe ADHD und wurde zurückgehalten, aber es war tatsächlich für das Beste.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Yes, what's the matter with you, right?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
No, I think that's really, that's spot on. It's funny how it all comes down to the simple sayings that we all know, like actions speak louder than words.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
And I've been wrestling with this idea of, man, I just like, I want the best for my kids. I want to be this like superhero, macho man that they can look up to and all this. And it's like, Es ist mein Ego, das all diese großen Dinge machen will. Das Beste, was ich für meine Kinder tun kann, ist, die Leben zu leben, die ich für sie leben will.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Wenn ich all diese Erwartungen für sie habe, dann sollte ich das selbst machen. Und wenn ich schnell herausfinde, dass meine Erwartungen für sie falsch sind, dann sollte ich wechseln und verändern und ein Beispiel dafür sein, was ich hoffe, dass sie werden. Kann ich etwas dazu hinzufügen?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Man, du machst mich hier wirklich denken, John.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Es ist viel Druck für ein Kind.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Yeah, no, you always do. Yeah, we recently took a trip to London and the first day Abby felt so guilty, but you did eventually warm up to it.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
But, I mean, you've come a long way, though. I remember the first day that we went on a date after having our first child. We were going to be away for an hour.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Abby was bawling. But, I mean, I know this now.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Ein bisschen.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Ich wünschte mir, dass jemand mir in der Mitte des Chaos von 202 gesagt hätte, dass das eine temporäre Sache ist.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Es ist kalt. Es ist einfach kalt. Es tut weh. Und ich denke, es war mir nicht gut, an diesem Moment zu glauben, dass es für immer so ist. Aber ja, wie du gesagt hast, es sind wie die Sehnsüge der Leben. Es ist kalt, Mann.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Aber jetzt ist es einfach kalt. Ich liebe den Hinweis, den du gegeben hast, wie Eltern vor ihren Kindern verhalten sollten. Es hat mich über Argumente und Enttäuschungen vor Kindern gedacht. Was sind deine Gedanken über eine Enttäuschung vor Kindern?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Es ist hart. Hast du irgendwelche komischen öffentlichen Situationen oder Begegnungen mit Leuten, die Dinge singen, gehabt?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Das ist großartig. Hast du Leuten ihre Telefone im Publikum erlaubt?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Nehmen sie dein Telefon an die Tür?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
How do they know that no one's actually sneaking one in?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
How did that make you feel?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
How do you overcome challenges in your own marriage when you have this very high standard to live up to giving advice online? Do you ever feel
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
What advice do you give people when a married couple encounters an issue where they have a fundamental difference? And there's no right or wrong answer. For instance, deciding on how many kids to have.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
People actually say that to you. Oh, all the time. That's actually happened. All the time, yeah. Someone came up to you and said, I cheated on my spouse, can you go talk to them for me?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
What do they expect you to do?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Es klingt, als ob du mit Dave Ramsey arbeitest. Exakt.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Ich liebe deine Antwort. Es ist Realität.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Ich denke, du hast das perfekt beobachtet. Das einzige Problem ist, dass es Situationen gibt, in denen Menschen in der Beziehung verändern. Ich meine, jeder ist ständig verändernd. Ich denke, jeder, der mit seinem Partner gearbeitet hat, ich meine, du bist fast eine Viertel des Jahrhunderts verheiratet. Das ist mein Lieblings-STL-Pro-Code aller Zeiten. Wir müssen das für das geben.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Das ist unglaublich.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Das macht total Sinn.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Ja.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Wir haben nur mit einander gesprochen.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Es ist wie Dawson's Creek.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Do you guys know what Dawson's Creek is? I don't want to wait.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Du bist auf Dawson's Creek, starte es heute Abend.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
27.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Was war das? Weil wir so junge Kinder hatten, haben wir gejagt, dass wir, wenn unsere Kinder aus der Wohnung sind, in unseren 40ern, in Vegas gehen werden. Wir werden die 40er-Jährigen sein.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Something that has bonded us, I think, more than anything is just having those honest conversations together. That's it. And no judgment and just hearing truly have... It was happening in the car.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
What's amazing, and it's funny... Is that it?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Wir hatten einige unserer besten Konversationen auf Fahrrädern. Und es ist lustig, dass wir in den 40ern in Vegas geredet haben, weil wir tatsächlich auf der Reise nach Vegas geredet haben, als wir einen der wohl am stärksten verletzten Konversationen in unserer Beziehung hatten. every single thought you can imagine.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Just us, just like going back and forth. And it was just like the coolest thing ever to just, no shame, just like say, I love you. And I accept you just as you are.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
It was on.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Ein menschlicher Mensch. Es ist so fremd. Die Scham ist weg. Ich bin eine schlechte Person.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Ich liebe, wie du das Problem des Sexes mit der Beziehung aufbringst. Ich glaube, das ist etwas, das jedes Paar irgendwann in der Beziehung sagen wird. Wir hatten einen Unterschied darüber.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Das ist wunderschön. Mann, als du das an dieser Konferenz gesagt hast, waren es da irgendwelche Paare, die aufgehört haben und geblieben sind, weil sie zu furchtbar waren?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Ich meine, ist das das meiste... Ihr seid ja zwei und ein Jahr alt, Mann! Ich meine, wir sind seit neun Jahren zusammen. Und ich würde lügen, wenn ich gesagt hätte, dass wir niemals darüber diskutiert haben. Ist das die meiste gemeinsame Frage, die ihr bekommt?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Das ist mächtig. Hast du das jemals gesagt? Ich denke, wir haben es gesagt. Haben wir das gesagt? Unsere Geburtstagssache? Ich glaube, wir haben es gesagt.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Nein, das ist ein guter. Das ist lustig.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Du hast es am besten gesagt, als du das ganze Thema erwähnt hast, oh, ich werde nie über Dinge in der realen Zeit sprechen. Vor allem mit deinen Kindern. Du sagst, ich werde nicht über Dinge in der realen Zeit sprechen. Und wenn, äh, ja, ich denke, wenn dein, wenn dein Verhältnis öffentlich ist, ist es wie, es bringt viel Druck auf dich. Ja. Es bringt viel Druck auf alles.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Dr. John Deloney, danke dir so, so viel, dass du auf dem Show gekommen bist. Ich weiß, du hast so viele unglaubliche Projekte, die du arbeitest. Ich weiß, du hast viele Bücher geschrieben. Was ist in den Büchern für dich gerade, die du gespannt bist, darüber zu sprechen?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Okay.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Ist da ein Release Date für die App?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Oh wow, das ist wirklich bald. Okay. Well, thank you for coming on the show.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Thank you. That means a lot coming from you.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
We sat down with Dr. John Deloney, a mental health expert and host of the John Deloney Show under the Dave Ramsey Network. John spent two decades in crisis response working as a university dean and mental health counselor. He holds two PhDs and has written multiple bestselling books. But what makes John so compelling isn't just his credentials. He tells the truth, even when it's uncomfortable.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
I was looking at your Instagram story today and you were talking about these conversation cards, which by the way, I love conversation cards. I think you having those for couples to connect. Matt does love good conversation cards. I think they're awesome.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Sie sind einfach ein guter Weg, sich zu verbinden und echte Gespräche zu haben, die wirklich wichtig sind. Ich liebe tiefe Gespräche. Ich finde das lustig. Aber gleichzeitig sind Gespräche großartig. Aber wenn die Trialen und Tribulationen der Leben kommen, fühlt es sich fast unmöglich an, eine solche Gespräche zu haben. Es fühlt sich fast unmöglich an, sich mit Menschen zu verbinden.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
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The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Wir sprechen darüber, warum Eltern nicht Freunde ihrer Kinder sein sollten, sowie so viel mehr, alles in heute's Episode. Dr. John Deloney, willkommen zum Unplanned Podcast. Danke, dass ich hier bin.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
So what is the perfect number? Because I feel like you probably have figured this out by now. The ideal...
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
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The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
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The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
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The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
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The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Ich fühle mich immer, als ich dich auf YouTube sehe, wie du immer die meisten intensiven Beziehungsfragen antwortest. Ist das so viel Druck auf dich?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
By bye binkies, hitting a car & losing our luggage
Oh, I didn't even know about this. No, what did you say?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
By bye binkies, hitting a car & losing our luggage
You actually said that? Word for word, I hope you can cheer up.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
By bye binkies, hitting a car & losing our luggage
Weißt du, was das TV-Show ist, das mich gerade so ausdrückt?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
By bye binkies, hitting a car & losing our luggage
Wait, we gotta put a picture up of the letter. It's in his room. I saw it in his room today. You did such a cute job on that.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
By bye binkies, hitting a car & losing our luggage
This is... We're in March, babe.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
By bye binkies, hitting a car & losing our luggage
But then today he actually took a nap. He took a nap!
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
By bye binkies, hitting a car & losing our luggage
I'd be flippin' tense.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
By bye binkies, hitting a car & losing our luggage
What? Wait, how do you spell this? Wait, spell it out for me. Wait, I thought it's dis shoveled. No, not dis shoveled. Dis shoveled. Like dis, D-I-S shoveled.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
By bye binkies, hitting a car & losing our luggage
They weren't accounting for it.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
By bye binkies, hitting a car & losing our luggage
Inflation tree. Everything's a dollar, just kidding, it's not anymore because of inflation.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
By bye binkies, hitting a car & losing our luggage
No! No! Discheveled?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
By bye binkies, hitting a car & losing our luggage
Discheveled. It's not disheveled. What? Babe, I'm 26. I've never known this.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
By bye binkies, hitting a car & losing our luggage
How is it taking me 26 and a half years to find this out?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
By bye binkies, hitting a car & losing our luggage
That's so true.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
By bye binkies, hitting a car & losing our luggage
Hey, we got one. Okay.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
By bye binkies, hitting a car & losing our luggage
Du hast deinen Anruf gefordert, okay.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
By bye binkies, hitting a car & losing our luggage
No, you're freaking... That's what I did. Okay. You repair the chipped tooth. You don't rip out the whole tooth. You didn't rip your teeth out, dude.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
By bye binkies, hitting a car & losing our luggage
You look really pretty, by the way.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I want to know this. You're Mrs. Social. And your son.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Is not Mr. Social. He's Mr. Antisocial.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
If you don't want to go, then that would be really miserable.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Yeah, my mom always shows me pictures that she took on her digital camera and printed off. She's like, this is what your dad looked like in college. I'm like, thanks for showing me that. But, yeah, they were a cute couple. I look back at their pictures, and they look like the classic, like, 90s couple.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
What was it like when you found out that you were going to have a granddaughter, your first granddaughter?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
You didn't know that I was a girl? No. Well, they told my parents I was a boy. Did you know that? It wasn't until like a final appointment. That's right. They knew.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
She was really sad because they wanted a girl. And then like one of the last appointments, they're like, you know what you're having, right? When she had an ultrasound and she's like, yeah, boy. And they're like, nope, it's a girl. And they were like so shocked and really happy about that.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Grandma's like, I had all girls, but that's fun.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
It's awesome. It's sweet. It was.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Right there behind the... Oh, gosh.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
It's okay. I cry all the time. This is where I get it from, Matt, by the way.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
How old were you guys when you became grandparents? Oh, my gosh. Well, let's see.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Like in the hospital room? We were in the waiting room.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
That's, like, still working through the trauma.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
We were in the waiting room for a long time with CJ.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
And we didn't even get to see him.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
That's so scary. I don't envy the grandparents in the waiting room. I mean, it's sweet, but it's so nerve-wracking.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Yeah.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
When we started dating, what were your first impressions of Matt? Oh, I liked Matt. Be brutally honest. I liked Matt. He can take it. It's okay.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
We were talking about you a long time before the date.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I've been talking about you for a long time.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
They were nice kids. Grandma was like, I'm not going to bash them.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
You said no. They wouldn't even ask. I wouldn't let them get that far. It was like before we got on a date, I'd be like, by the way, we're not going to kiss. Just don't even try. Why was I like that? Because I had these ladies in my corner. They're like, no, we're too good for that. That's funny. So then what did you think about us getting married when we did?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Well, it's a tough place as a grandparent because I'm so close with both of you. So I would, like, confide in you. But then you're in a tough place because, you know. Yeah. You're allowed to have your own opinions, of course, and I would go to you both for advice, but then also there's the parents first, and you were both very respectful of that.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
But you're probably like, okay, why is my granddaughter getting married younger than I did two generations later? Probably crazy.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Yeah, I got married younger than both my grandparents and my parents. And your parents. I guess I was a rebel, you could say.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
breaking the rules it worked it worked it did yeah I think that from the outside like probably life stage wise it's a natural transition like graduate from college then get married but it's just when you meet your partner so young then it doesn't necessarily always fit that life stage too you made it work yeah
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Well, then how did you feel about your son-in-law, grandson-in-law dropping out of college? Let's talk about that.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
That one probably hurt more than getting married.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
That wasn't the thing you brought up at your women's groups. Like, oh, by the way, Abby's husband, Matt, dropped out of college.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
You kind of left that one unsaid.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
You know, that would have been a good idea.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Was that so weird for you guys? Is it still weird?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
It's cool that you guys were in our videos even when we first started. We did a video with the two grandmas way back. Yep, three years ago. Driving in through the fast food. That was so fun. I love having those videos. You guys have always been supportive, good sports about it, and really fun.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Do you find that it's hard to describe to your friends what we do for work?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Really? That's so wild. Have you ever been noticed from being in our YouTube videos? Yes.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Through your life, do you feel like you've seen women's rights change a lot? The opportunities for women have multiplied tremendously. Didn't you have a mantra you had to say at your fitness class? We had a thing we said. My ex's poundage is there for all the world to see. What a fool I've been.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Yeah, I remember her. That's funny.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Yeah, it's even new for now.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I think one of the seventh graders card was like, I don't know who you guys are, but I just looked you up on YouTube and that's awesome. I'm with your grandma.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I'd be happy to do it any time to make your life easier. They're good kids.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Were you allowed to have your husbands in the room when you had a baby back then?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
See, I heard that because actually I was watching I Love Lucy and I was like, that's crazy. But that was before when you guys were having babies. But still, I wonder when that was that you could have your spouse in the room.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
That's cute.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
That's nice of the teacher to post that. Yeah, it is.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Well, Grandma, you are also an entrepreneur. Right.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
true owned a business you did that for most for 13 years yeah for almost about as much time as you taught right right and that's cool grandma owned a learning supplies store called learning express learning adventures what the heck how did you forget i don't know i forgot learning i spent time i remember learning adventures of hers you were a customer yeah The teachers would go.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I still remember it, though, because I remember you guys doing the inventory. And they would just go and count everything, literally. Literally. We did a lot of things by hand that aren't done by hand anymore.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Yeah, and I thought I was helping by counting the pencils and stuff, but definitely wasn't helping.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
They also had, like, educational toys. Like, core memories from going to Grandma's house growing up is we played that game, Some Swamp. I still have it. It's a good one. It's a math, like, board game. Like, I feel like... I mean, I was raised by elementary educators and, like, people, like, with... Like, that cared about curriculum and, like, educational games. My mom was a teacher, too.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
So it was, like, I was, like, grown. I was raised by that stuff. I'm, like, I know any educational game. Leapfrogs, big deal. Like, I just remember all that stuff. And so it was a no-brainer that, like, in my mind when I wasn't going to, I was switching out of acting, I was, like, well. I know what it looks like to be a teacher or to be educational resources.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
That is true. Maybe that's why I'm so confident, Matt. I have the best cheerleaders ever. Yeah.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
They would like they were great. Like I remember you picking me up from preschool and grandma. Like we just like had so many like traditions and also like growing up.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Well, it came out in the 50s. I'm just talking about when they filmed it.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
grandma we would go on like trips as a family I feel like that like that was like foundational for my like love of travel and like the way that that can bond a family like that was like oh I want to do that with my own family and like make memories and we still are doing that and so that's really cool
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Yeah, Blake was in kindergarten. Because I remember growing up, I was so mad that my mom didn't start me as young as Blake. I was like, you should have started me at kindergarten. I was behind when I got into theater, which...
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Wow. 51 is when it premiered. I Love Lucy premiered in 51. So I guess I was living at home with my parents. Yeah, 51 to 57.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Go and sweat a little.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
But I think it's incredible. Like, my grandparents were road tripping to see me in, like, 30 seconds of the show every single year. They made it a priority, got a hotel, probably went more than once.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Yeah. Well, no, I think you did get a hotel sometimes because the shows were late. But, like, I had so much support and so many people. So many cheerleaders growing up.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
And now. So...
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
That's not true. I'm sure you disciplined me. Blake, maybe. Not you.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
But it was the same when you got, because you were having babies in the 70s. No. I did. No husbands in there.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
You know what's funny is that I remember when I was pregnant with Griffin and Augie, like me working out, I think initially was kind of like – It was so different from when you guys were probably pregnant.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Wasn't the advice to basically lay as low as possible?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Was fitness not a big... I know.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I don't think anybody was going to a gym. I don't remember anybody going to a gym. Yeah, I think the culture around fitness and, like, female fitness has definitely changed a lot. It has.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
your dvd or whatever what's funny is i've seen those and they're like this woman is so like so muscular and it's like a thin woman now like people people just weren't used to seeing women with like that were strong you know with muscles i don't think it was like encouraged like it is now in a way it's true Yeah, because I remember actually, I saw this, it was like the first female bodybuilder.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
And it was like a fit woman, but like now women's strength, like people, women can really put on a lot of muscle now. But they were like, I think it was like discouraged more then.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Did you guys ever do a fad diet?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Okay, Matt, this mantra was like so toxic. It was like, what a fool I've been. My excess poundage is on display for the world to see.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
My dad remembers it. And I'm like, wow, talk about toxic diet culture.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Grandma had to be a part of a club where you had to pay if you didn't lose weight.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Yeah. I think you did.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Yeah, like you had to weigh in. And if you weren't weighing in at your weight, you had to pay.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
It's from 1954. I am an intelligent person. I will control my emotions. Not let my emotions control me. Every time I am tempted to use food to satisfy my frustrated desires, build up my injured ego, or dull my senses, I will remember, even though I eat in private, my ex's poundage is there for all the world to see.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
oh wow wow other times have changed oh they have they have oh my gosh that is i cannot imagine something like that existing and then you took your kids to it you're like this is good for them did it work Well, kept me from getting obese. No, that's crazy. I wonder when, I mean, it's still a thing, I guess. Like, tops is still a thing.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I didn't remember that as a kid, though, because I don't think they have these anymore. Remember those 100 calorie packs?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
They had snacks that were like portioned out into 100 calories.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Yeah. Honestly, they tasted really good. I would just have to eat like three of them before I felt any.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
i have no clue maybe they just didn't want to mess with well probably with a nervous father in there i mean they don't let spouses in there for surgeries now so it's probably just like a medical practice i didn't really know that you could go in for surgery no they don't usually they will let them for c-sections but they don't let you the spouse in there like when you get your spinal tap or anything so it's probably just like per the hospital but now universally husbands are allowed in there
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Yeah. For sure. But I just think that people have maybe reworked like I guess mostly like how that. Maybe it's just not a way to educate children on food and health overall.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Definitely shouldn't beat yourself up. Maybe you should call yourself what a fool I am. I know. Even though I eat in private, my excess poundage is on display. If I look like the two of you, I will be so happy when I'm a great-grandma. Because you guys, you move great. You look great. You're very, I talk to you guys like friends, so you're very, like, with it, grandmas.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Mm-hmm.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I guess like through your life, do you feel like you've seen women's rights, like this is kind of a deep question, but I'm just curious, like you, like have you seen women's rights change a lot throughout your life? Or do you feel like they're still?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Like in what ways? Do you think it's good progress?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Well, I think it was more symbolic. It was symbolic of not wanting to be restrained.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
It's kind of sad that the dad couldn't be there when the baby first arrived.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Grandma, I feel like I remember you saying that if you could go back. I remember when I was talking about baby names with you for Griffin and Augie. I was just thinking about having a conversation about baby names. But I feel like I remember you saying something about how you thought it might be if you could go back and name your daughter something more gender neutral.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
It might have been advantageous on a job application or something like that. That's probably true, but I don't remember saying that or thinking that. I remember you saying that. Really? And I was like, that's interesting that you thought that because you were coming from a different era. Whereas I was raised thinking girls can do whatever boys can do.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
That was kind of the big message to me growing up. And so I thought that was just like...
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
just like i don't know more of a symbol that we had been raised in different eras and that was like cool that you i don't know thought of that maybe i did and i do like i do tend to like and i was like man i probably got that from my grandma like tend to like gender neutral names vicky for girls vicky was being a teacher because you had that role model in your life was that always your dream it's like what do you want to be when you grow up a teacher was that what you always said as a kid
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Grandma, she can do a lot of really, she did so many things. She made games. She published games.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
She's techie.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
She's techie. She is good with travel. She made games.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
narrowed my vision and i don't i still don't know that i feel like you also love like products like coming up with a product like an invention i feel like you and your brother kind of like that too like we always called her the gadget grandma because she would come up with gadgets my brother my brother invented things i just like to buy yeah you're like my gadgets like shark tank you're like i'm gonna buy that that's cool do you think
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I'm always afraid to have family on the podcast because I want to protect them. So I'm like, everyone, be nice to my grandmas. How do you feel? Have you ever seen a mean comment towards us? You try not to look?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
That's honestly the main reason why I hate the negative comments. Cause I'm like, I feel like someone like that cares about me, like my grandmas or like other family. I'm like, Oh, that's going to hurt them for more than me. Cause that's why I'm like, Oh my gosh, I've never wanted to say it. I don't. I always tell them like, do not look.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
She screenshots them and she's like, please block this. I'm like, mom, why are you in the comments anyway? But that's so funny.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
No, I had to restrain grandma on Facebook for the cover, too.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I was logged in on your Facebook for a period of time. Really? Well, I think she created a second account, or there was somebody that... It was the political stuff. I was like, grandma, we gotta... I know.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
This is terrible. Oh, it's okay. This is where I get it from, man.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I feel very blessed to have such close relationships with both my grandmas. It's going to be funny having them together on this. We're going to get a little sassiness, a little humor, and it's going to be really sweet because I think the relationship I have with both of you guys is very special.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
It's so interesting because now events like that, there's so much conversation because of social media. I feel like it kind of changes. I mean, it changed a lot of things for these major events that happened and the discussion afterwards.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Yeah.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
And I feel like that kind of gives me— Their generation is tougher than ours.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I want to ask them what it was like to become great grandparents.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Because I am selfishly so grateful that my kids are the first for both. Because I was the first. I knew what it felt like to be the first grandchild on both sides. I was like, it was the best. So I want that for my kids too. So it's kind of in a race. But what was it like?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
what a blessing it is to be able to enjoy those kids yes i mean it's it's just yeah it's a blessing for them i'm so i'm so like i'm like they don't even know how good they have it like they have so many people they have so many grandmas they have so many grandmas and um like not even just like You guys are great grandmas that are on the floor playing with the kids.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
You're sitting on the ground crisscross applesauce with them. So involved. Picking them up. And they are heavy kids. Don't pick them up very easily. But you're so sprightly and good with them. It's not like... I don't know. Like I say, the kids are so, so blessed to have you guys. And you guys are such fun, lively grandmas for them.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I never feel right calling... We've started saying Gigi or grandma. I think Griffin's just confused. Like, he knows that you're all his grandmas and Gigi's, but he's like... All those ladies are grandmas. Yeah, he's like, they all love me and take care of me.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I also started calling you Gigi because that's what mom calls you. Gigi.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
And he calls my mom honey. Yeah, he's very confused. Well, he associates you with a dog and he associates you with bunnies.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
That's totally different now.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
We'll work on his name and then we'll work on... Then we'll work on GGG.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I think it's so sweet.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Should we do the rapid fire questions?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
These are kind of fun.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
First of all, I want to know what's the best health tip you've ever received because you both look so good.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
That was nice. What's the worst fashion trend you've lived through? I used to get a fro.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Something you probably don't know about grandma is that she has natural, really tight ringlet curls, which I love your curls. I think it's so fun. I did go back to it, you know. Yeah, you did for a while there.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
You didn't like it? No. What was your favorite family recipe?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Like homemade noodles.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Like rolling them out in gravy over mashed potatoes, which was just starch and starch and starch.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Who in your family made the pasties?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
We need to make those again.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
oh so the goal and i think he was born pretty fast okay too crazy yeah yeah he was born early too he was very early it's kind of fun that it was like always a surprise but like did you have any inklings with your kids because you guys you had two boys you had two girls do you have any inklings like i think it's the same or people always were guessing weren't they
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Rutabaga.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
You've got to cover it in ketchup, though.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I haven't seen that.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I'm really curious about this one. What advice would you give to your 25 year old self? I'm 25 right now. A lot.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
That's good. That's good. Because I think it is easy to just, like, get hung up on the details or compare to other moms, especially with that early stage because... I don't know. It's such a unique stage where you're like in a little bubble and you can easily look and see to the right or left, oh, what are they doing? How are things going? So that's good. Okay.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
What invention of your lifetime has amazed you the most? Being the gadget grandma, I like lots of inventions. I remember when you got the Wii Fit board in the basement of your house and we were like, this is high tech. We're going to lose weight on this board and like...
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
She's in the car. She's like, what's the 91st Psalm? And she's like, what is the name of, like she's talking into her phone all day. No, not all day, but yeah. Grandma's sending me virtual birthday cards with my name AI'd into it. That is awesome.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
She's been doing that for years though. She has.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Grandma's unknowingly using AI because when she's Googling it.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Final question.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Well, thank you.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Obviously, you don't have to do that. You can just give us a call if you need it. know what's going on sometimes i'm like wow love that my grandmas are listening to yeah we've definitely shared a lot some of the stuff you share but oh man She's told me about a couple that she wished we didn't. That's the thing about Vicky. I'm never going to be left wondering what she's thinking about anything.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
No. That's the other thing about you, Grandma.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
We'll never wonder what she's thinking.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
We should have always been that way.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
They were once 25 and married and had children.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I just have to say.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I want you to know that if you're watching this and you have a grandparent that you have a good relationship to reach out to, this is your reminder. Give them a call. I should like, I should definitely do that more. But then also like, I just feel so thankful to have a close relationship with their grandparents. If you're missing a grandparent, I'm right there with you. My heart hurts for you too.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
And, um, Just thank you guys both so much for being on here. And you guys truly mean, now I'm crying. You guys both mean so much to me. And like when I think about role models in my life, you two are the people that jump to the forefront of my mind. Like amazing, servant-hearted, humble, generous people. Just amazing women that I've gotten to look up to my whole childhood and to adulthood now.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Amazing, amazing role models. And I don't take it lightly because most people don't get that. And I'm so thankful for you guys and your constant support now and all growing up. Just so thankful. So blessed. Well, we're blessed by you, Abby. Absolutely. Thank you. I couldn't get out without crying. You know that. It's the lights. I feel like it's the pressure of it all.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
But I truly do mean every word I say. And yeah. I'm always hesitant having family because they're so precious to me. And I feel like my work is sometimes, even though it's so personal, it's separate from my family life. And I really, really prioritize to preserve my family life. But I appreciate you guys stepping into my work life today and doing this.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I think two is probably standard now, too, I would say.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Recovered from surgery, but no sleep.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Yeah, I can see both sides, though, because like it's really, really difficult for a mom to feel like I'm sure it was hard for them to take your baby out of the room. You're like, wait a minute. Like, I just had that baby. Like, don't walk away with that. Like, I want to have eyes on that at all times.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
But maybe also since you were expecting it and you were in a hospital, it's like a trusted, safe place. You're like.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
kind of knew the rules i feel like we've like had very extreme differences in our like birthday because like for me even after c-section like the painkillers were kind of like do you want this i think a lot of people opted to take the painkillers at least once one or two of them but like ibuprofen after surgery and it's like okay well and here's your newborn baby
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Were the kids all afraid of the principal then?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Because your younger son dated her younger daughter.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
That's true.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Many, many, many years ago.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
That's funny.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
What is your first memory of meeting each other? Was it when mom and dad were getting pretty serious or was it earlier on?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Yeah. Well, what was the wedding planning like? I guess mom probably did most of the planning for the wedding. Did she? Or did you do a lot of planning?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I actually want to know about that because I'm kind of worried about being the mother of the groom. Do you feel like you feel less involved?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
You get your own thing. I wonder if also the tradition will change by the time... I think it's already kind of changing. By the time Griffin and Augie get married, I want to be involved, but you don't want to feel like you're, I don't know, overstepping in a way. Because even though it's about the couple, it is kind of widely viewed as the bride's day in a way.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Oh, I've had a lot of conversations. Didn't people call my mom and dad Ken and Barbie or whatever? Yeah. Yeah, they were a very cute couple.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Yeah, I want to actually know this because they both tell me, they're like, I never dated. I never dated. And I'm like, is that true? I think they both could have.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
That's sweet. Man, maybe the left story was as pure as they say it was.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Relationship dilemmas that make you think
I agree. I don't think there's anything in here that I'm like, this feels like they can't move forward. I feel like these are things that 90% of marriages deal with.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Relationship dilemmas that make you think
I think it's easy for life to pull you two separate directions. It takes work to stay a unit. I think that with some work, you could make this happen. But the advice we're saying is very contradictory to what's in the comments.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Relationship dilemmas that make you think
The top one says, have you talked to legal counsel yet? Maybe do that before breaking it to your husband. If you're sure it's what you want, start the process, then start the news with him. I do it before the trip or a few weeks after. It's going to ruin the trip for him in hindsight, regardless if he knows you've just been waiting for the opportunity. I think that's fine.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Relationship dilemmas that make you think
I mean, I think they're just thinking practically, honestly, probably about her finances. But, like, a lot of them say, like, talk to a lawyer first. This one says...
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Relationship dilemmas that make you think
They didn't mention kids.
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Relationship dilemmas that make you think
This one's actually crazy. This is the top one.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Relationship dilemmas that make you think
You just tell him you don't love him anymore. You've changed a lot and you're fundamentally unhappy in the marriage. If he starts telling you he'll change or whatever, you tell him it's too late. You're beyond wanting to spend any time or money fixing the relationship. You're happier when he's gone and you're done.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Relationship dilemmas that make you think
While he's away, you do well to meet with a lawyer so the wheels are already in motion. The attorney can also tell you what to do in the short term to protect your assets in case your husband feels a bit vengeful and decides to drain the accounts. This isn't a negotiation. You're telling him it's over.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Relationship dilemmas that make you think
Oh, three kids. I didn't even know. Three kids.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Relationship dilemmas that make you think
and a lot of people are saying that same thing just to be blunt and just say it's done like this one says literally just say i'm not going to be your wife anymore i will be moving out on x date that's so sad you guys you're acting like this man freaking cheated on her i feel like this is something that this this man lost his best friend to suicide like is anyone i feel like this is just so common that it's actually like actually frustrating to me like there needs to be
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Relationship dilemmas that make you think
More people, I'm thinking about internet culture specifically, that are speaking positively about marriage. And like, you know what's hard? Being single is hard. Being married has challenges.
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Relationship dilemmas that make you think
And you're not meant to do it alone. Like obviously there's, there are really, really great, amazing reasons for being single. And there's sometimes it's not by choice. And there's like some really things that are like not possible to move forward. Obviously. I'm just talking about in general, I'm so sick of the narrative. That's like, girl, you leave him. You deserve better.
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Relationship dilemmas that make you think
My first question would be like, what did you spend this on? If she doesn't even know what he spent it on, that's so eerie. Like, is he buying stuff for somebody else? Like, is he also having an affair? That's what makes me wonder.
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Relationship dilemmas that make you think
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's like, wait a minute. Can we be a little self-reflective here? What areas am I falling short as a wife that I can step up on where, What resources can we look to? Like, let's quit going to this resort because guess what? You're going to find yourself in another relationship where you're like, well, you know what? They're not perfect. Shocker.
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Relationship dilemmas that make you think
I really thought they were perfect. And now I'm mad that they're not perfect. So I'm going to move on again.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Relationship dilemmas that make you think
Yeah, because it's like, don't dip. There's no perfect person out there.
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Relationship dilemmas that make you think
Obviously, there's things that you should not. I'm not saying there are horrible situations. Divorce is the only option for you. You have to do that. That is the option. But it's just a really frustrating thing because I think we're setting up so many people
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Relationship dilemmas that make you think
for just an unhappy unfulfilling cycle if you're looking for your spouse to fulfill you in every single way and to meet all of your needs and to always do the most for you because you know if he wanted to he would you're going to be disappointed and you know what that's also not very self-reflective of you to be like hey in what ways am i showing up for this person
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Relationship dilemmas that make you think
If we were friends with this couple, I'd be like, you know what? The thing about the remote happens a million times in our household. I could be like, oh, you know what? Yeah, this is a common thing.
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Relationship dilemmas that make you think
This is just something that like my husband's maybe not the devil. Like he just can't find the freaking remote. Sorry. I just disagree with all the advice. So I don't know if you should go to Reddit for relationship advice because you're going to end up single.
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Relationship dilemmas that make you think
If you want someone to validate every single thing you feel about that's negative about your partner, then just probably go to Reddit. Yeah, that's actually crazy. But I do totally feel empathy for the things that they're finding themselves in.
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Relationship dilemmas that make you think
I feel like every long-term relationship probably gets to that point where it's like, okay, wow, we have drifted apart and now we got to actually put in work to be together.
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Relationship dilemmas that make you think
Oh, no. That's crazy.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Relationship dilemmas that make you think
I hope she hasn't already had this conversation because of the people telling her like, tell him right now you're not going to be his wife anymore and you're moving out on X date. I'm like, oh, wow. I just can't imagine that user feeling like they had everything they needed to know to just encourage someone to get a lawyer and move out.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Relationship dilemmas that make you think
This is where I get so spicy and I'm like, but for what? Like I don't know these people at all.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Relationship dilemmas that make you think
Me and the sister-in-law should do this episode.
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Relationship dilemmas that make you think
I feel like that would be really good.
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Relationship dilemmas that make you think
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That's really, really tough. Did you gather from that whether or not she had told him that she had a boyfriend or was he just introduced at the mom's house when he was changing the oil?
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Regardless, it was completely his reaction was completely inappropriate.
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So maybe he was a little hurt that she hadn't told him.
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doesn't justify the reaction or the racial comments or anything like that. But like maybe there was a part of that, a piece of that where he was like, wow, you already told your mom about this and you seem to be really close if he's changing your mom's oil on the car.
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Like it also seems like he's kind of like, maybe there's a little bit of resentment that he's filling a role that he's like, I'm not able to fill because we're no longer married, you know?
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I feel like if it was a friend, I would say absolutely. Yeah. there's no reason to continue having any kind of discourse with that person.
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Since it's a dad and he initiated by saying sorry and I want to try to make things better, entertain one more conversation and literally just let it be one conversation and then you can go from there. You can kind of evaluate. I would say obviously tread very carefully. I wouldn't even, you said you have to accept his apology. I don't even think you have to do that thus far.
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I think you just say, I'm open to hearing what you have to say and you can kind of just see if they're like truly like sorry for how they acted and that they like want to make things right. And I agree with you. You need to have a lot of boundaries with that. And here's the thing. You don't have to be like.
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seeing each other all the time you don't but like just to completely close that door when he's wanting to make things right doesn't feel right either but i feel like obviously have a lot of boundaries and also just like tread wisely like you don't need to just like let him in on every single detail of your life right away but at least allow that conversation especially since your fiance is open to it if your fiance was like super super hurt by that her fiance seems like a genuine guy yeah
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He seems like an awesome guy. And I feel like it'd be different if your fiance is like, I'm really, really like I think that since he's open to it, too, like you both just entertain one more conversation.
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Oh, okay. How do I, a 21 year old male, tell my girlfriend, a 23 year old female, why I won't get a vasectomy? My girlfriend and I are extremely close. She's my best friend. We've been together three years. Eventually we're getting married, but it's not a huge priority right now due to college and other situations. She's very innocent and therefore believes it's impossible we would ever split up.
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I admire her enthusiasm and don't see it happening either. But coming from a divorced parents, obviously I know rational people don't get married expecting a divorce and that anything is possible. Neither of us want kids, but especially not her. I could do it just fine if she really wanted them, but I prefer not to.
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Now, with that being said, if we were to break up and I ended up with another woman who really wanted kids, I'd like to be able to have the option. I've never been a fan of burning bridges, and I consider my balls a fairly good bridge, lol. Okay. Okay.
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That was a really good response.
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For some more context, she has major anxiety around doctors and related fields, and she is super against tying her tubes or something similar, which I definitely understand. She also doesn't do well with... Wait, wait, wait.
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One second. I have a rebuttal for that. Oh, there's more. I have a rebuttal for your comment.
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She also doesn't do well with over-the-counter birth control. Her hormones don't agree with them, unfortunately.
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That's not what I was going to say. That's true. That's not what I was going to say.
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Getting your tubes tied is a huge operation.
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I think it's when you remove everything.
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I'm sorry. I apologize. No, no, no. I don't even know either, and I have...
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it's all good parts i'm embarrassed that i don't even know anyway the snip is like not that it's invasive but it's not that crazy yeah okay i have a couple things go first of all you're like she has to get her tubes tied but he has doesn't want to get in a second i see what you're saying but also life is freaking unfair women are the only ones that can get pregnant she's the one at risk it isn't fair of this happening he's not gonna get pregnant that's not gonna happen
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ruin your life financially i think there is grounds for divorce there if somebody is consistently wrecking your finances that is a huge stress on raising kids on marriage yeah i would feel really really betrayed especially with children because it's like we chose to like have these kids and to provide for them together and you just squandered not just your own earnings but my earnings and that is going to affect our children because of your poor decisions
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Is it stupid if I break up with my boyfriend because he told me you're only the third prettiest girl I've dated?
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And also... They have to be on board for that. But can I give a rebuttal? Which rebuttal? This is why this is a hard issue. They're reversible. Vasectomies are reversible.
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You know what? There's the number one doctor for vasectomy reversals in Arizona.
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Because your friends that did it. Because our friends just got it. Okay, wow. This is actually really tough. This is a tough one.
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And also think about it. They're so young. He's 21. She's 23. He's 21? Yes.
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Do not get a vasectomy at 21.
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I don't know many 21-year-old men that are like, yeah, I want to have a baby right now.
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Too young. Very reversible. Your child. But I also understand where she's coming from where she's like, hey, I don't want to have kids and I'm the one at risk of becoming pregnant by us doing this deed.
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And I don't want to mess with my hormones. I get that.
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Yeah, I'm sorry. You just got to wear a condom, guys.
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I think it'd be a really big shame. Not even if it's like, oh, I'm preparing because I could meet another woman. Say you stay together and you guys both change your mind at some point. That would be really hard. Yeah. That would be, I know that even like they tell women, like when you get a C-section, they can just like, they can finish the deed for you.
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I think they can tie your tubes in an operation and they don't even let you do that. They make you sign a ton of paperwork if you say that's what you want to do because you can have a lot of regret if you're like, wait, I want to go back and do this, but you can't. I also will say there's so many ways to prevent pregnancy that this just feels very unreasonable.
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Oh, no, I think she did. She did. I bet by the time our kids get married, there will be male birth control. I can see it happening.
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Boyfriend, a 31-year-old male, called another girl's name while I, a 31 female, was giving him a b******. How can I be intimate with him again and have him quit denying what he did? That's just the title. I feel sick to my stomach and I don't know how to navigate this situation. Been dating for four years. We have a great sex life and have lots of fun together and always get along.
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I don't know if I can look at him the same ever again or feel comfortable in sex with him. He's denying he said anything but my name, but I clearly heard another woman's name. Wait, he's denying it? Give it a second. If he would admit what he said, it would be easier for us to have an adult conversation so I can move on, but he's denying it.
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So here I am looking like the crazy lady who misheard and making something out of nothing. I truly know he said a name that isn't anywhere near mine. He treats me well and we get along great. How do I get him to admit he said it so I can take the right steps to move on? If he doesn't come clean, I don't think I can ever trust him.
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Let me just say, I don't feel like I'm the right person to be giving advice about this because we have only been with each other. So I can't imagine what it would feel like to feel like your partner is talking about a past partner.
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I thought we were going to be a little bit more private. That's moving forward.
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That feels really private.
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Next, what I was going to say is I am sure that can feel... I'm sure it is invoking insecurity in you is what it is. And I think we need to evaluate that for what it is and to not... Not view it as a him problem as like, okay, the reason I feel so upset about this, which I can also understand. I could also look at the situation and like be like, oh, it's a situation where she wants to be right.
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Where it's less about the fact that he said someone else's name, but more about the fact that he's not admitting that he said it. That can drive a woman crazy.
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You both. Yeah. There's no winning.
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I'm trying to think about, I feel like us, I would immediately stop and be like, what the freak?
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It seems like this was after everything, like it was like after everything that she like addressed it.
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I feel like in the moment I'd be like, what the? Yeah. I feel like we would just laugh.
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yeah this comment says please take this with a grain of salt but i'd be on his instagram facebook so fast searching that name high and low your feelings are already hurt hurt them a little more by finding out who she is before you leave it'll give him it'll give you peace of mind afterwards to know you were right and he's a big a effing liar oh why is everyone online telling people to leave
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It's clear that they need to read Ramith's book.
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Oh, man. People are so crazy.
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Yeah, you're so right.
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Okay, let me tell you.
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I feel like I would be, if I were in her shoes, I'm trying to imagine this, where we both had other partners, I think it would probably make me feel really insecure. And so I can understand where you're like, this is something that feels hard to move on from, but then you gotta deal with that insecurity internally, and it's not really like a us thing.
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A money conversation needs to happen here.
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Or you could be honest with them and just be like, hey, that happening, it's bugging me that you're not admitting it because I know it happened. I don't know. That's hard. You know what? I think more than anything, I feel like it might not be insecurity. I think it's she wants to be right. Like you said this and you're not admitting it.
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And that's probably what's bothering her more than anything else that happened.
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And so he genuinely might not remember saying it or maybe you miss her. I don't know. I think I've cracked it. It has nothing to do with insecurity or another girl or anything like that. It's literally like she just wants to feel right. And it's making her feel crazy that he's like, yeah, I never said that. And she's like, I know you said it. Like, I didn't see that. Like making.
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I'm going to defend the woman for a minute.
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Yeah. It's about being right.
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Yeah. And then in your head, you can just write in your journal like, I know I'm right. And then just move on.
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And just pity the poor guy for being wrong.
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Because I feel like not just women in relationships, there's usually a partner that feels like they're in control of the finances and the other one that's not. And I don't think she's necessarily wrong for being like, I was kind of hands off in this area because that's how households work, right? It's not like you tag team every single duty, like we both do the same duty 50%.
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I thought all these stories were going to feel made up, but they all feel so real.
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Leave him. I'm actually disgusted by this guy.
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I'm so... You seem livid over there. He's very immature. Yeah.
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You just allocate specific duties, usually almost 100%.
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I think that you need to let him grow up on his own. And I think you need to move on. You're taking your police entrance exam. You're a woman. You got your own apartment. Yeah. He has so many milestones he needs to hit before he can be on par with you. It's like, let's not stoop. Let's not. This guy. This guy. No. No. You don't get.
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it does make it a little brother that there's other guys there and that she is in a relationship i will admit that but no it's a no here's the thing even if there's no romantic interest at all between each other why can't she be there too she's your girlfriend yeah i don't understand why he's going to hang out in a co-ed environment without her that's weird Take all the other things aside.
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yes where it's like you do this task i do this task you just i don't think anyone should be like well why does she not have any eyes on it it's like well you know what that maybe wasn't her job and like and how they just decided to split things up i agree and i think that's totally fair and if he was the one handling all of that that's on him to figure it out totally but then if she is also excessively spending then true it was his job though if she let's pretend for a second that she was excessively spending money it's on him to have that conversation with her i
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Why would you make your partner question or feel like, hey, this is a little bit making me feel a little insecure. Why would you ever make your partner question like that? That's disrespectful.
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He's just getting drunk. His family doesn't know where he is. He lost your apartment key. He's crawling in through a freaking window. This guy's a mess. He's a dud. Here's the thing. He could turn into an amazing boyfriend and husband one day. Yeah. He just has a lot of growing up to do. And maybe he'll reach maturity at like 40. But at 23, you're already light years ahead of him.
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it's actually like a scientific but also he's not even thinking about like the adult life you're living like you're doing a big thing that day and he's just out getting drunk with his other buddies and like crawling in through your window lost your key not disappearing it's just like okay now if they were married i would probably recommend that they go to therapy that they try to work this out if you're dating somebody and they're doing all these red flags just go ahead and peace out just
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let him go like a stray dog just say get it don't come to my window like a stray cat that jumps in your window you're just like don't come to my window anymore one of the top comments is definitely cheating even if he's not cheating you know he had his phone and chose to ignore you best thing to do is to move on i wouldn't even say that he's cheating i just think he's just really i wouldn't go there even i'm gonna assume the best i'm gonna assume that he's not cheating you gotta let him go yeah you're gonna be a freaking police officer you're baller you're doing it you don't need him
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Stupid business stuff. Ew.
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Wait, I don't even know how to operate this.
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okay is it stupid if i a 25 year old female break up with my boyfriend a 29 year old male in part because he told me you're only the third prettiest girl i've dated simple question basically what happened was is i said i had that a friend of mine said that she thought he was one of the most attractive guys i've dated and then he said that response that you're only the third prettiest girl i've dated
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However, this is not the only degrading comment he has made about my appearance. There was another time where we were kind of going back and forth about something kind of riffing. And he said, I was the prettiest girl in the room. I was the only girl in the room. So I said, well, I'm probably the prettiest girl in most rooms. It wasn't something said in a very serious way.
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true he has also let me know multiple times that my boobs are too small for his liking he basically said that if i didn't get a boob job he would constantly see other women and feel upset that he'll never have that because i refuse to get a boob job he follows a ton of half-naked instagram models that look nothing like me he usually picks apart my appearance it's either he doesn't like the makeup i'm wearing or oh no makeup today that's an interesting choice he complains i wear too much blush and it looks ugly i've asked multiple people if i wear too much blush they all say no
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He's very critical of the outfits I choose to wear saying some of them are so ugly they should be burned. All of this and he also knows I'm insecure about the way I look because of all of this and I sent him a reel on Instagram and he said the girl in the reel was cute.
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However, he's frustrated by this and doesn't understand why it's a problem that he doesn't think I'm the prettiest girl he's dated. That I should just accept reality and it shouldn't be a problem because it's unreasonable and unrealistic to think that. However, I didn't have to know and I didn't want to know. I didn't ask for this information. He just shared it with me.
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I cannot imagine being put in that position. That feels really, really hard.
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There are also other issues within the relationship beyond this area, but I've never had any boyfriend make me feel insecure about the way I look or make me feel like I wasn't the prettiest girl in the world or at least the prettiest girl they've ever dated. And if that wasn't true, they definitely didn't let me know. I feel like sheet and I've been crying often because of it.
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I think it's just a straw that broke the camel's back. Am I being ridiculous?
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Oh, sheet. You know...
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I'm going to give a message to the men out there.
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Do you want me to read it?
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You are going to see the most beautiful version of your spouse when they are the most confident version of themselves.
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So saying this stuff, maybe in there, I'm going to give this guy the benefit of the doubt. Let's say he's a very logical, like literal person.
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Maybe he's like as literal as it gets.
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almost unforgivable if i'm even like he just really has no social skills it's still almost forgivable yeah unforgivable especially because it sounds like she's brought this up before and been like hey by the way yeah i don't know that makes me feel like sheet i don't know why he brought it up like why would you just accept that why would you just tell your person that they're the third most attractive and you know what if you want some bigger boobs
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I, a 29-year-old male, was warned not to marry my girlfriend, a 28-year-old female, by her best friend. What now? Wow. I've been with my girlfriend for three years and I've been planning to propose in the next couple of months. Recently, we had a group of her friends over and I decided to share my plans with one of her best friends.
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I'm actually disgusted by this guy.
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This is a boyfriend.
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Leave him. I'm sorry. This is just something that you just don't have to deal with. Let me tell you. Let me tell you. I'm going to give you a message to this 25-year-old woman. You are probably the hottest you're ever going to look. I don't want to be that.
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I don't want to be... I'm not trying to say this in a degrading way, but if this guy's already being this shallow about things, the boobs aren't going to go up.
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Yeah, no, I feel like that's not a dumb reason at all to break up. I feel like you should also know that it's not because he said that. It's because the person that you're with should make you feel like the best version of yourself. When you're dating, especially. Like, it's like, this should not be someone that's implanting more insecurity in you. They should be your safe place.
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Like, that person should feel like home. where you're comfortable, where you're safe, where you feel recharged, not where you feel drained and worse about yourself and just- I feel like it's a no for me. Okay, I, a 26-year-old female, want to come clean to him, a 27-year-old male. How can I come clean? I'm looking for general advice on how to approach this.
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This is embarrassing and the guilt is eating me up. I met this good friend in college, he's 27, and our connection has been strong ever since. However, when we first met, I lied about my family. I grew up extremely poor, sharing my bedroom with three siblings, zero dollars in the bank account, no money to buy toiletries, to give you an idea.
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When we met, I was extremely ashamed of this, so I hid that part of me. I told him my family was better off than we were, that my parents had good jobs. Basically, I lied about my parents having jobs that they never had and had money that they didn't have, giving him a fake impression of me, a lie.
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Fast forward to the present, I graduated college and got a good job, so I'm doing pretty decent financially. I know he likes me and I like him too and I'm considering taking the first step to try to start a relationship. But it feels like I don't deserve it and that I should just stay away because of my lie.
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But another part of me just wants to come clean and see if we can try a romantic relationship. I'm extremely ashamed and I don't know why I lied. So please, please be nice in the comments. I know I messed up. I know I was terrible for lying. I feel disgusted at myself every time I think about it. I regret this so much. I think I was just younger and stupid. What do you think I should do?
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When I told him about my plan to propose, he looked a bit uncomfortable. He said, good luck, while glancing around like he wanted to leave. I asked him directly what was bothering him, thinking I could handle whatever he said. That's when he told me he had concerns not about me, but about my girlfriend. According to him, she has a pattern of being emotionally distant in relationships.
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Well, also like, honey, you're not the first person that's ever like exaggerate or stretch the truth to try to appeal to the people around you.
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He very well could have. And just like, she just wasn't like... If she acted like her family was loaded and all this, then if they showed up to... She said like they had better jobs than they have.
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And they were like more well off than they were. I don't think it's... You never know people's financial situations. So you could just look at someone and just be like, yeah, I have no idea.
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I feel like this is a really understandable thing. I don't think that he's going to think you're some evil person and not be interested in a romantic relationship because of this. I guess this is a deal breaker for him. Like I think it's really easy to see like, yeah, this was a really hard thing for you. Like not feeling like you could make ends meet as a kid.
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Like maybe you felt ashamed and like ostracized from your peers. And so that's why you just wanted to just like feel like you could even the playing field and having conversation with him. And I feel like just be totally honest about that and be like, you know, I feel ashamed for ever feeling ashamed about my financial status.
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Like with my parents, I wasn't honest about this and this is the reality. And... Like, I'm gonna be honest moving forward.
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I don't think this is a big deal.
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Yeah, they say, first, don't beat yourself up too much. It's totally normal to want to protect yourself, especially when you've been through tough times. But honesty is key. Just sit down with him, be vulnerable, and tell him what you told us. Be real about why you lied about and how you've grown. People make mistakes, and then owning up to them shows maturity.
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He'll either appreciate your honesty or not, but at least you'll be free of the guilt. And if he likes you, it'll probably make him like you even more. Yeah, I don't think this is a big deal. I feel like... Okay, this is a great example of, like, if someone were to be, like, I would be, like, lying is disgusting. It's never acceptable.
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And then you hear a story like this and you're, like, well, you know what? I view it differently because, like, she probably grew up as a kid. Like, maybe she went and she had free and reduced lunch or she had to, you know, do things, like, and then it made her feel, like, less than compared to her other classmates. And, like, this...
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He said she's dated people more for convenience than genuine affection and that she only ever seemed truly excited about one guy in the past. He also mentioned that she hasn't been single for more than a year since before high school.
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this is really hard but can i say something that stands out as weird yeah he's like if you want to do it we can but i will resent you for it it's like the assumption is like if can we do this the assumption is can we do this and you not resent me for it like that's so weird that he's like we can do it but i might resent i fear i might resent you for it it's like what the heck um this is tough because it seems like when they entered the relationship they were on the same page yeah
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While he admitted that might be hypocritical since he's been with his boyfriend since high school, he said he believes she sometimes confuses romantic relationships with emotional support systems. That hit home for me because during our first year together, I actually wondered if she was in love with him.
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And now they're not. And I think that her desire is totally valid. I think she seems very self-aware in the way that it's making her feel a certain way about the girl's stepmom. But I think it's valid. And I think it's just coming from her own maternal desires.
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Because here's the thing, she's 33. And like she said, she doesn't have a ton more fertile, healthy years, like healthy, fertile years. So like she could leave him, start at square one with another guy. And maybe she doesn't find the right match.
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I eventually dropped that thought after spending more time around him and realizing how committed he is to his boyfriend. And quite frankly, he is very gay. What surprised me is that she's never been overly clingy with me. If anything, she's independent and sometimes distant. But with him, she had a strong emotional reliance.
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You just have to do a deep dive of your psyche, girl. Yeah. And just think like, am I going to feel like my role as a stepmom isn't satisfying enough?
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Or is this guy like my person for the rest of my life that I'm willing to make this compromise for? That is so hard.
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If she was like 23, I'd be like, let's just shop around.
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But here's the thing, because she didn't want kids before she met him and fell in love with him, maybe it's not that she wants kids, maybe it's that she wants kids with him. So her leaving him and trying to find somebody else, she might find herself back at the same place where she's just like childless and single.
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Because she changed her mind, it makes me think that what she really wants is kids with him and not just kids in general. Because I feel like that's a different desire. That's so hard.
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What started as me sharing exciting news turned into a conversation that left me feeling uncertain. I love my girlfriend, but her friend made some valid points that are now weighing on me. His comments echoed some things I have noticed but hadn't fully processed. Now I'm left wondering, why would he bring all this up? Was he trying to protect me or was this crossing a line?
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Do I talk to my girlfriend about this? If I do and she finds out what he said, what does that mean for her friendship or for mine with her? Does she have a right to know what her friend shared with me?
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I think he massively overstepped.
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I think that's completely inappropriate.
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Like for a friend to be like, don't propose. Like that's between them. Like that decision for marriage is between them. You can give insight if people are asking for it or if you see major red flags. Like she's cheating with somebody else. Like something that she has no reason to be honest with. This is just beyond... That's not a true friend either. Yeah.
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I feel like he would go to her if he's like, hey, like, by the way, I don't I don't think you've given enough time. If he thinks she should be independent for a period of time or if he thinks that she's becoming too emotionally reliant or like things like that, that's for him to talk to her.
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Like, why would he let why would that why would he let her be in that? Sorry.
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It's almost making me wonder if he like kind of wants to get with that guy. Or maybe he has a complex because he's been with his boyfriend for years and he wants to get married. And so it's like a little like jealousy reaction where it's like, oh, you're ready to like lock it down. And it's only been three years where I've been with my partner for eight.
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I could see some like envy even like playing a role in this decision to like be like. And also, I don't like how he was so passive about it. He was like, good luck. And like, yeah.
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Okay, let's hit me with it.
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See, I feel like you're like that boyfriend in that situation. Cause like for like, you gotta be able to be like, okay, wait, wait a minute. I'm looking for people that are gonna speak life into this relationship. Or like if they're not saying positive things, like what's their motive? Is it because they really want the best for me and for our relationship?
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Or could there be another reason that they're bringing this negative thing up? I'm someone that's like fiercely loyal. The thought of like a best friend speaking ill of you behind your back to your boyfriend, that's just so nasty. That doesn't feel like a good friend. Thank you to Bobby for sponsoring this portion of today's episode.
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Well, I can read it and see if we can figure out what A-H stands for. My husband, 42-year-old male, and I, 42-year-old female, have been married for 15 years and together for 20 years as of this month. TBH, we both sucked at various points in our marriage. The first year was great. Years two through six were rough after we moved for my job and he became unemployed and had years of on and off work.
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He was lazy and entitled and I was mean and emotionally volatile. We fought a lot and we both handled it poorly in our early 20s. Things stabilized when he found a good job and matured a bit. Still, he's always been a bit entitled. Financially, I make more. I do 80% of the housework. He does his laundry and I do mine plus sheets, towels, and everything joined.
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He thinks he takes out the trash because he takes out the kitchen garbage and thinks I'm unreasonable for asking him to empty the bathroom because I'm the one who uses that garbage can. I spent years planning vacations, doing all of Christmas. I'm a different religion, but I love our nieces and nephews and his parents. It's really most of the work. He does mow the lawn and snowblow.
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I help shovel snow and that's it outside. I do maintain my own car. I believe he thinks his big contribution star relationship are tracking and managing Netflix and other shows, driving and being fun. I'm not kidding. Some of this happened because I was too particular and controlling and I have a higher standard than he does, which sometimes is bad on me, sometimes bad on him.
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I'm controlling, he's incompetent, bad combo. Probably around 2019, he started becoming rude to me. It started small, but I addressed it regularly. The most annoying part was when he blamed me for everything. The tiny example is when we couldn't find the TV remote. Where did you put the remote? The rudeness increased after his best friend died by suicide.
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I gave a lot of leeway and stopped pushing back on his rudeness. I told him multiple times he needed to go to therapy. After a lot of excuses, he admitted he didn't want therapy because he didn't want to do the work. I stopped asking. In 2022, I got sick. I was scared it was cancer, but all the tests came back clean.
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The ninth doctor I tried helped me clean up my diet, get active, start meditation, and motivated change. I'm not cured or diagnosed, but I'm much better. But it's a daily practice to work on my health. I'm now training for a 5K. I've stopped watching TV and I read. During that process, I moved into the guest bedroom to get better sleep.
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He refused to treat his apnea and blamed me for not giving him a sleep clinic number. I stopped hanging out with him because I wasn't watching TV anymore. He said no when I asked him to go for a walk. Always an excuse. I ended up creating a separate life in our home. Eventually, I think he realized it and finally stopped being rude and stopped the blame.
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He did blame me for the remote about two months after I stopped watching TV. It's been better for about six to nine months, but once it got better, I realized he only treated me with any respect once I forced him to by removing myself from him. Now I'm happiest when he's out of the house. I don't miss him if we're apart for a week.
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I am sometimes annoyed if he's in the house because he watches TV 100% of the time he's awake. I don't want to do our normal summer plans, which are fast approaching, so I think I need to tell him ASAP that I want a divorce. I'm thinking after an upcoming trip he has next week so I don't ruin the trip. How do I start the conversation?
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How do I avoid getting sucked in a vortex of trying to justify, explain, convince him it's not worth saving? I don't want to work on the marriage. He's had four years to start therapy alone or with me, so I'm not willing to accept that as an option. I don't hate him, but I don't really like him anymore. I'm done.
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Wait, I still have no idea what AH stands for.
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I feel like they could do really well from therapy. I can tell just the things that she's reading or the, okay. Think about the things that she's really brought up multiple times. She's like the remote, like that is such a like basic, silly argument that is deeply rooted in other beliefs that she has about her husband.
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he's irresponsible or you know something much deeper than that i like you i'm gonna hold your hand okay yeah and so i feel like there's a lot of things here where they could go and like it's kind of weird that we're holding i know i'd like it i like it though so let's do it yeah i like holding your hand okay so i feel like there's a lot of things and like her just being so specific like she literally went on listed every single household chore and like who does it in their house really did break that i feel like she has like first of all you're not supposed to keep it's contempt
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How do I, a 21-year-old male, tell my girlfriend, a 23-year-old female, why I won't get a vasectomy? She is super against tying her tubes.
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And I think that they've prioritized being individuals over how they can be individuals within their marriage. And so I feel like them sleeping in different rooms, getting different like – you know, doing different evening, like her just being like, I'm not going to watch TV anymore.
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I'm like, I wonder it would be so, so hard if you've gotten to this place where you just feel like you're utterly removed from your spouse. But I wonder if one night she'd be like, Hey, what are you watching? Like take any interest in something. If he watches TV all the time and you don't like that, but just like try to step into that. And just give an inch and see if he gives an inch.
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But don't test. But just, you know what I mean? Like, just see if there's any place. Or say, hey, like, I know you're not feeling comfortable with individual therapy. I mean, I think it's okay to say, like... I'm considering, it's gotten to the point where I feel like I'm considering divorce.
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I am wondering, given that information, if you would be open to therapy. And I think if at that point he's not open to therapy or not open to even a conversation about like areas that you can agree that your marriage is like...
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kind of you've kind of separated i feel like she's already so set on this where i'm like i feel like there's some things we can do here like i feel like they've let the trials of life separate them rather than bring them together and like yeah it's like life life can be hard and also like i feel like she's just she's done a lot of labeling in this like she's like i mean she does seem self-aware she's like i'm mean and emotionally volatile he's lazy and entitled like she she has like a lot of like what do they call that she has a lot of things decided in her brain yeah
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They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
That is so nice, actually.
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They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Maybe I'll stop eating out now.
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They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Well, when I eat out, I eat like crap. So I feel like if we made it at home, it'd be a lot healthier.
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They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Du bist so ein Künstler, das ist wunderschön.
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They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
I follow you on everything.
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They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Oh gosh.
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They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Were you immediately like, this dude is stalking me?
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They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
I was though.
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They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Ich denke, ihr seid wundervoll, aber wenn ihr die gleichen Songs hört... Ich denke, ihr seid wundervoll, aber... Wenn ihr die gleichen Songs hört, 10.000 Mal... Ich finde, ich finde eine Song, die ich liebe, und dann spiele ich sie ein paar Mal, und dann wird Abby sagen, du, kannst du bitte nicht mehr spielen?
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They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Die ganze Zeit, als du Amanda schaust und Bilder auf deinem Computer schaust, hattest du überhaupt keine Ahnung, wer ihre Mutter war?
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They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Wir haben uns schwer verabschiedet. Hast du die Verabschiedung oder sie? Sie hat sie verabschiedet. Sie hat sie verabschiedet. Was hat sie verabschiedet? Sie wird uns nicht wütend.
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They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Oh man, for a little bit it was Midnight by Liam Payne. It was like a collab he did with an EDM artist.
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Stitches by Ed Sheeran. Your music is so good and I feel like Wir sind wahrscheinlich nicht alleine in dem, aber eure Musik war der Soundtrack zu unserer Beziehung. Oh, komm schon, Mann. Und es ist immer noch so, aber unser erstes Jahr der Beziehung, es war immer noch so und es fühlte sich so an, als ob unsere Leben ein Film gewesen wären.
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They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Ich finde es so wunderschön, dass du das alles erklärt hast. Es macht Sinn. Und korrigiere mich, wenn ich falsch bin, aber es macht Sinn, warum Johnny Swim so ist. Es scheint, dass du und deine Beziehung Musik zusammen gemacht hast, was du in deinen Eltern gesehen hast. Und du wolltest, dass das dein Leben sei. Du wolltest, dass das deine Familie sei.
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They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Und ich habe ein Interview mit euch gehört und es war so cool, dass du das sagst, weil ich dachte, wow, hier ist Donna Summers' Tochter, die in diesem tollen, erfolgreichen Musikgruppen ist. who's talking about, I don't know if it was you or Abner that said this, but basically, I think one of you said that you didn't really care all that much about the fame aspect.
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They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
And I was like, wow, that's emotional intelligence. Wow, that is so, that's so wise. I think people, myself included, I feel like I learned this, I'm still learning this, even to this day. I don't want to act like I have all the answers, but people get so... Sie haben die Ehre, aber sie wissen nicht, dass es so viel mehr zu Leben gibt als das.
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Und ich fühle mich, als wenn deine Eltern das Schöne davon hatten und das in deine Musik bringen. Es ist cool, dass du das mit der Welt teilen kannst. Und es gibt einen Preis dafür, richtig?
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They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Welche war es? Wir haben nicht...
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They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Abby would play your music so much our first year marriage. I was like, sweetie, can we play something else? Something else, haha.
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They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
My biggest beef with plant protein is that it doesn't taste good.
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They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
And that's exactly what it is. And I don't like pea protein, but for whatever reason, the Orgain protein is actually the best plant-based protein I have ever tasted. They gave us these little prepackaged protein drinks and they're actually really freaking good. Our kids see us drinking them and they just beg us to give them the protein drinks all the time.
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They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
They're delicious.
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They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Und ich glaube, ich gebe es nicht für gut, aber ich versuche, das Künstler-Ding dieses letzten Jahres zu machen. Ich habe angefangen, Musik zu veröffentlichen. Ich habe 7 Millionen Zuschauer auf YouTube und 7 Billionen Views. Also habe ich mir gedacht, um Musik zu machen, könnte ich wahrscheinlich ein paar Millionen Streams bekommen.
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They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Das sollte nicht so schwer sein, weil ich diese Publikation habe. Bro, I had the biggest advantage and yet I failed miserably. Because it's like, music is not easy at all. It is so hard. And there's so many talented people out there. So the fact that you guys have been able to make it in that industry, doing what you love is incredible.
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They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
I'm gonna stand up right now. Okay, wirklich, du hast das perfekt gesagt. Das war unglaublich. Das war so schön. Du musst das irgendwo auf der Wand hinsetzen. Das auf der Wand hinsetzen.
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They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Aber es gibt wahrscheinlich Leute da draußen, bei denen jemand Spotify-Stream-Nummern anschauen könnte und sagen könnte, oh, dieser Künstler ist mehr erfolgreich als dieser Künstler, weil ihre Streams fünfmal mehr sind, zehnmal mehr, oder was auch immer. Okay, ich mache nur die Aussage, aufgrund der Forschung, die ich gemacht habe. Ihr habt eine sehr gesunde Familie, Ehe.
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They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Ihr seht aus, als hättet ihr eine sehr gute, gut aufgeräumte, wunderschöne Leben. Und die Leute könnten jemanden anschauen, der 50, 60, 70 Millionen monatliche Zuschauer hat. Und sie denken, ich will sie sein. Ich will sie sein. Sie wissen nicht, dass viele von diesen Leuten ein bisschen depressiv sind. Weil sie so hart arbeiten. Und dann haben sie keine Familie und sie haben keine Kinder.
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They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Lass mich darüber sprechen. Nein, du bist es. Du bist es wirklich. Ich möchte euch ein bisschen aufrufen, weil ich heute ein bisschen recherchiert habe und ich dachte mir, oh mein Gott, ihr seid wie Oprah Winfrey, wie ein Token-Artist. Sie ist ein großer Fan von euch. Ich habe das noch nie gehört.
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They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Okay, ich möchte dich mit einer Frage beantworten, denn wir hören dein neues Album, When The War Is Over, in der Fahrt hier. Es ist phänomenal, übrigens. Und es gibt eine Lieder, die Abby und ich nur so, bruh, wir waren so, das Lied ist so gut.
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Nein, es ist wahrscheinlich Frank Gehry. Okay, so now I'm blanking on who exactly wrote it. Well, you guys tell me who wrote it.
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They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
But at the time of recording this, the album's unreleased, but the album's out on February 7th. So check it out, When the War is Over. But when we were listening to the song, When the War is Over, there was a lyric that said, Will freedom feel like treason because war is all I know?
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They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Was ist das?
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They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Kein Fact-Checking heute.
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They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
In der Kollaboration mit Oprah Winfrey wurde Johnny Swim sehr mit Oprah zusammengearbeitet, während sie ihre Super Soul Sessions machte. Nein, das hat sie nicht gemacht. Aber...
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They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Hat Tim euch geholfen, dieses Album zusammen zu schreiben?
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They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Die Beeren. Die Beeren.
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They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Dude, well, the album is really good. It's really, really good. I think I might even like it more than your music that Abby used to play every day. Let's go! I don't know how you feel about it. Dude, it's really good.
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They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
It gave me chills. I personally, sorry, I feel like I need a, you should talk more, because these are your favorite. Why do I always do this?
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They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Das ist großartig. Ich würde sagen, aber du solltest mehr reden, weil Abby ist viel klüger als ich. Wir müssen von Abby hören. Ich will von dir hören.
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They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Ich bin nur ein Zuschauer. Wir haben dein Album gelesen und wir haben Monty Carlo gelesen. Ich dachte, das ist wirklich gut. Ich dachte, das könnte mein Lieblingsalbum sein. Und dann haben wir Silicibon gelesen und ich dachte, Bro, was ist das? Das ist anders. Das ist gut. Was ist das? Und Ich habe wirklich die Lieder gehört und versucht, den Sinn des Songs herauszufinden. Ja.
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They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Das ist wirklich, das ist wirklich, als ich diese Lieder hörte, wie Yeah, with people changing in marriage, Abby and I, you guys have been together 20 years, you've been together only 8, but there's a lot of changing going on. How did you come up with the name of the song? How did you come up with the lyrics?
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They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Ich freue mich wirklich darauf, dass ihr euch verletzt habt, das zu teilen, denn ich habe gehört, dass es Leute gibt, die PTSD haben. Vielleicht waren sie in einer Kriege und sie sind wirklich verletzt von ihren traumhaften Erfahrungen. Und natürlich denke ich nicht, dass jeder von uns hier in diesem Raum in der Kriege war.
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They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Aber Menschen gehen durch Dinge in der Leben, die sie verletzen, die sie verletzen, die sie verletzen, die sie verletzen. In einem Raum, wo es vielleicht ein Jahr oder mehrere Jahre ist, dass man sich nicht wie die gleiche Person fühlt.
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They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Ich weiß es nicht, weil ich mit einem Mann zu einem Event gesprochen habe, der mir über seine Depressionen geöffnet hat. Und ich habe gefragt, was seine Depressionen geholfen haben. Weil ich war wirklich, wirklich, wirklich, wirklich depressiv für das erste Mal in meinem Leben im Jahr 2024. Und wenn du sagst, dass du denkst, dass Menschen mit Depressionen waren wie...
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Ich hätte es nie gesagt, aber ich hätte es nie gesagt, aber ich hätte es nie gesagt, aber ich hätte es nie gesagt, aber ich hätte es nie gesagt, Und dieser Typ öffnete sich auf mich und sagte, ich habe angefangen, Microdosen zu machen. Es war kein Psilocybin, aber es war ein Art von... Es ist im Grunde genommen ein Psilocybin, aber es ist nicht... Ich glaube, das Teil davon ist legal in den USA.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Sie können es verkaufen, weil es das ist. Ich bin kein Wissenschaftler, ich verstehe das nicht.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Aber auch mit dieser Konversation gibt es viel Gespräch. Wenn ich den Titel gesehen habe, dachte ich mir, das ist großartig, dass sie sich um ihre Leben kümmern, weil es viel darüber geht, das zu legalisieren. Wegen all der Vorteile, die es für Menschen mit PTSD zeigt.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
I'm gonna pee so bad. Oh, go pee.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
We'll just keep chatting about the name of your album that you guys completely changed. That's so cool, though. I never would have thought that that song was originally going to be the name. And then your manager was like, maybe, dude, like the war is over or something.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
That's probably why. It's just because people, to have this wide appeal, maybe that title is going to have a larger appeal, but once people get into the album, they're gonna realize that, you know, there's a lot more to it than just that song.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
And maybe they'll listen to this podcast and maybe this will help somebody. Maybe someone who's like severely depressed right now is gonna realize, hey, maybe I need to try an alternative therapy to help me get through this really awful time in my life.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Ich liebe das für dich.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Wir kritisieren es einfach. Wir kritisieren es einfach. Wir kritisieren es einfach. Unplanned. We want to have real conversations and real connections. So I love that you're sharing this right now.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Oh, Alter, du wirst mich weinen lassen.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Danke zu June's Journey für die Sponsorisierung dieses Episodes. Abby spielt gerade die Sponsoren-Serie. Sie spielt die Sponsoren-Serie, seit sie mit unserem zweiten Kind verheiratet ist. Ich bin ganz ehrlich, ich habe die Sponsoren-Serie noch nie gespielt, aber Abby hat die Sponsoren-Serie genug gespielt für uns beiden. Warum magst du June's Journey, Baby?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Habe ich den Raccoon oder den Böden getäuscht?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Oh, so I look for the paintbrush.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Can you help me out? I actually really suck at looking for stuff.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Baby, ich glaube nicht, dass ich es finden kann.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
I'm actually getting really good at this, babe.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Es ist wunderschön, wie du, und sag mir, ob ich das falsch interpretiere, aber du hast dich nicht genug bezeichnet. Und dann hast du in dieser Erfahrung gehört, dass Gott dich als Freund genannt hat. Und dann wusste du, dass du genug bist.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Therapie mit Tim war eine Sache, und Psilocybin war mit einer anderen Person, die das macht.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Es ist nicht so, als ob du in einen seltsamen Alley-Way gegangen bist.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Das ist sehr, das ist sehr, danke für das Gespräch.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Und ich bin so, gestern auf dem Podcast, als wir filmten, habe ich angefangen zu weinen. Und jetzt habe ich gerade angefangen zu weinen. Das ist wunderschön. Ich bin so froh für dich.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Amanda, das Liebe in deinem Leben, all das durchzugehen, How did you handle it? How did you, yeah, how did you handle it?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Well, your music is truly beautiful. And I love that it... Es bringt alle diese verschiedenen Genres zusammen, um einen sehr einzigen, folgenden, jazzigen Blues-Gesang zu machen. Es ist so, so gut. Und es ist lustig, dass du Louis Armstrong nimmst, weil mit Abbey's Rotation of Music ist es wie Johnny Swim, Louis Armstrong, Leon Bridges, George Ezra. Und es ist alles beeinflusst von Jazz.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Und du warst so, warte, er lacht.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Und es ist... Ist das jemals so beeindruckend, dass deine Musik bei jeder Geburt auf der Welt gespielt wird? Ist es jemals so, dass man sich nicht in eine öffentliche Argumentation befinden sollte? Weil dann werden die Leute dich nicht mehr lieben. Man, wir argumentieren nie.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Aus der Außenwelt sieht Johnny Swim aus, als hätte er eine perfekte Beziehung. Sie waren der Soundtrack zu unserer jungen, verheirateten Leben. Aber wir waren überrascht, zu hören, dass sie durch ihre echte Hardschaft gelebt haben. In den letzten Jahren hat Amandas Gesundheit zu einem Punkt gelaufen, an dem sie dachte, sie würde sterben.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Und es ist so, dass du gerade darüber geöffnet hast, wie Silicibon dich, ich würde sagen, einen besseren Vater gemacht hat, dich einen besseren Mann gemacht hat. Ja. Aber Dinge in der Leben sind kein Ein-in-ein-Fitz-All. Das ist genau richtig. Jemand sagt, oh, das erste Jahr ist so hart. Vielleicht war das für dich wahr, aber nicht für jemand anderen.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Ich denke, du kannst kein Ein-in-ein-Fitz-All-Bereich in der Leben haben. Genau richtig.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Wir haben Prämarital-Counseling gemacht. Wir hatten jemanden, der uns gesagt hat, ich erzähle dir, wie man es macht, wenn es Zeit ist. Ich glaube, wir wissen, wie das funktioniert.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Wir haben das herausgefunden, Mann. Ich habe jemanden gefragt, wer das war.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Aber Mann, wenn wir dafür nicht geplant wären. Weißt du, was ich meine? Und vielleicht ist das die unromantischste Sache, die ich jemals gesagt habe, aber ich glaube nicht an Soulmates, Alter. Ich glaube einfach nicht. Ich glaube darauf, die Person zu lieben, die du gut entschieden hast.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Und je mehr ich Abby kennengelernt habe und je mehr sie mich kennengelernt hat und wir seit acht Jahren zusammengekommen sind, desto besser bin ich. Ich würde sagen, ich bin ein besserer Partner für dich, denke ich. Und du bist ein besserer Partner für mich, weil wir... Kiss, kiss, kiss! Wir sind Soulmates! Du wirst das Sollmate werden. Du wirst das Sollmate werden, du wirst das Sollmate werden.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Erinnerst du dich an jemanden? Nein, ich habe das noch nie gedacht.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Ich habe ein seltsames... Ich denke, du hast ein paar Persönlichkeiten.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Was ist dein Lieblingsspiel, Abby? Ich mag... Magst du Hypermat?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
I'm tired. Sometimes I'll go up to Abby. Babe. What makes you feel purpose of the things in your day?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Yeah. And Abby likes to read out loud, so I'm in bed, I'm like, what is she saying right now?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Weil sobald er darüber spricht, ich bin so... Es stresst Abby wirklich aus.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Wir werden sterben.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Wie hast du finanzielle Literatur gelernt? Richtig?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
But are these people paid like a flat rate or is it like a percentage?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
I'm like... Bro, Abby, bro, our kids have so many gifts for Christmas. I was like, babe, I don't know if we have space for this last one.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
It's fun. Yeah, well, thank you guys so much for opening up about your album.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
passion produce this music and it literally gave me chills and i can't wait to continue to listen to it on repeat i can't believe you guys allowed us to listen to this before it's even released let's go no but now that i know the whole story behind at least part of the album yeah i love it even more so they truly yes go stream it go follow them on socials go follow them on spotify where do you want people to follow you guys at home
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Yeah, go follow them like Abner followed Amanda and put computer pictures on.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
I'm stoked. Let's go. Thank you guys for watching. Have a good day. Bye.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Wir haben gestern Abend gefilmt.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Es geht immer um Arbeit. Es war vor der Arbeit. Es war stressig, weil wir mit unseren Kindern sein wollten.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Und außerdem hat Abner die schlimmste Depression seines Lebens erlebt. Wir sprechen über all das und so viel mehr in heute's Episode. Welcome back to the Unplanned Podcast. Today we are joined by one of, honestly, our favorite music groups of all time, Johnny Swim. I didn't want to embarrass Abby, but I'll say it right now. Abby would play your music so much our first year marriage.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Das ist für uns zumindest, wenn wir in der Tiefe von 2 unter 2 sind, die späten Nachts und frühen Morgen mit unseren Kindern. Manchmal sind es Morgen, wo einer unserer Kinder um 4 Uhr aufwacht und wir sind einfach so. Auch wenn du nicht derjenige bist, der mit dem Kind aufwacht. Nun bist du auf für den Tag.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Und die Melatonin, die dein Körper produziert, hat sich natürlich ausgewogen, weil es morgens früh ist. Und es ist so. Okay, that's great. For Abby, she'd be like, well, thanks for getting up with our son, but I literally can't go back to sleep now. Because of the screaming of our baby waking up.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
Ich bin so interessiert, wie habt ihr das, weil für uns, ich glaube, dass die schwierige Part von unserer Beziehung, als die Kinder kamen, war, wow, jetzt haben wir diese zwei Menschen, die völlig auf uns für alles verlassen sind. Wie habt ihr das gewusst, dass es die richtige Entscheidung war, wenn ihr nicht ein-zu-ein gesehen habt, bevor ihr verheiratet seid? The right decision to have a kid?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
I was like, Abby, I know Johnny Swim's music is so good, but sweetheart, can we play something? Oh mein Gott.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
They wrote our wedding song: The Johnnyswim interview
How did you know that getting married was the right call when it seemed like you weren't getting along?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
We know that I'm the favorite, but we got to pretend we like my older brother. Matt, you are not the favorite. Would you ever dress up as Mr. or Mrs. Claus? Dad, have you been Santa?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
I think they're just going to share so much. I already bought like our kids made all their Christmas. I'm so excited this year. And I feel like we just had like a budget amount, but then I was like, it really is just going to go to shared gifts. Yes. That's the good thing.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
We actually have a question kind of like that coming up. So sorry. We're going to wait until we're there.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
You think you're in charge here? He can take over the interview.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
We're going to let my dad take over the interview?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
I have an answer.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
My dog. We got Max for Christmas. It was so sweet.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
He's a Bichon. You met Max, my little white dog. Yeah. Have I? He passed when I was in college, but I could still cry about it.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Mine would probably be my stage that you guys made for me, or Dad, you built for me.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
No, I was like in high school. I was in high school. I didn't care about the stage anymore. I was way over there. Oh, he had graduated. He was already at the university. No, but I do want to thank you guys, though, for doing that. Because I think as a kid, I had so many crazy ideas. And I was always putting on shows and convincing my cousins to be in whatever show I was directing that day.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
for whatever holiday we were celebrating. And you guys really encouraged me to do what I loved, and that's part of the reason that I get to do what I do today. So thank you.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
No, but I realized, I think, I don't know if it was this year or a couple years ago, but I was like, why do I have so much fun making content on the internet? And I'm like, I think it's just because I enjoyed creating things as a kid. And it's just like using that same part of your brain to do it as an adult is so fun.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
And you had a container of clothes to dress up and dress people in.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Yeah.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
My... Favorite memory would be like, I was like six and my grandma and grandpa gave Cindy and I, they weren't real fur. They were fake fur coat, fancy coats. So we had these little coats and we thought we were so special with these.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Yeah, we felt like it. I just had never had anything so nice or fancy. That's really sweet. It was fun.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
What about you? What was your favorite gift ever?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
That's really sweet. That's awesome. And as far as the day of opening gifts, I feel like I like opening gifts on Christmas Day. Obviously, you can't pick and choose. Sometimes you have holiday celebrations with different parts of the family.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
You didn't even tell your parents.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
What? I didn't even tell them what? Oh, we're going to be home for Christmas. We're going to be home for Christmas.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
We're coming back. No, you didn't tell us. Right after that call, I was sitting on the phone. We did not intend to tell you this on the podcast, by the way. Don't let me hang it.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Just kidding. Oh, my gosh. Right after we got off the phone on Sunday, I was like, Matt, let's just move our flight. We'll pretend that Christmas Eve is the 23rd with the kids. They won't know any different. And then we'll pretend that the 24th is Christmas.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
And so our new tradition will probably be, we've talked about this, we wake up at our house on Christmas morning and then fly. But we probably wouldn't be there until later. That's awesome. Yeah. I think that'd be a fun tradition for the kids. I loved flying as a kid.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
I think they would think that's so fun to get to take one present on the plane and have that be part of their tradition and they go back to their grandparents' house. Well, thank you. We're looking forward to seeing it. We're pretending the 23rd is Christmas Eve at our house and then switching it all around.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
And we had carpeting with the real tree and it fell over in the night and got water all over the carpet.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Well, that's what I was going to say. In our day, everybody lived by each other and you could do that. Now that doesn't happen. So I don't think it matters the day. I get with the question, what do you think you should? And it's Christmas Day. But I think it's more important to spend a day with this family and a day with this family. Whatever day that is, we don't care.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
So just to be together and not be rushed is what's important. Some grandmas, mine years ago, you know, yeah, they wanted it that day and one had to be lunch and one had to be dinner. It was like... That's a lot. You know, it's nice if you can spread it out.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Yeah.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
What is the worst gift you ever received?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Oh, gosh. I try to put that stuff.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Holiday hot takes, people.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
I try to put that stuff out of my brain. I can't even think of.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
I can't remember what that would have been. Oh, I'm thinking of something. I can't say it on the podcast, though, because I don't want the person to hear about it.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Oh, no, you can't.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
I don't want to hurt their feelings.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
I know what you're saying. I do not. You know what it is? Don't do it. I can't say it. I can't say it. I sort of say, like, you've never gotten me a vacuum and, like, hit it, sister, or something. You know what I mean? Like, he's never done that. I mean, you've never given me, some women get like stuff for the house and they're like, what the heck? I didn't want this.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
This is when Matt was born? When he was a baby. You know, when they were little. You went and chopped a tree? Yeah.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
the heck is this and i was a kid like hey we got a new vacuum but later on i was like that was not a good gift okay actually though i feel like see i i can see where that would work for some people but abby literally would be so stoked if i got her a stand mixer because she was saying she saw some really cute stand mixers something you wanted yeah that's the fact that you know that but what does it look like the one that i want you want the really cute one
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Is it green? Is it Christmassy?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
It's green, right? Sage green? The bowl is... No, it's like an evergreen.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
The bowl is wood. Yes. I was about to say that.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
But she... You know, someone like her uses that. And you know it's important to her.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Well, she told me that, too. She was like, I want this. And she's like, I don't actually need it. I just think it looks pretty. Because we do have a stand mixer. But...
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Or let's say some woman wants a fancy coffee machine, a coffee that does four or five things. Yeah. That's a good gift. But I mean, sometimes you hear women saying, I got a blender or something I didn't want. Yeah.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Yeah.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Is it the deals? Is it just you get a good deal on them? She loves to find value.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
This sweater.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
I don't try. I don't try.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
And any gift she's ever received, she knows who gave it to her. Can you tell people about the crazy deals that you find after Christmas? Because you love shopping the day after Christmas. You come home with all this stuff. Why is that? Do you get like a crazy dopamine hit when you find stuff 90% off?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
I think it's a drug. Since I don't know how drugs feel, that's what I... Yeah. Like after Christmas, the next day, I loved it. Especially when you went to school, you guys at St. John, the Christmas store, we would buy the gifts the day after Christmas, 75% off or 90. Some places had them 90. And that was so much fun because Dad liked it. I wasn't spending our money. It was school money.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
But then I was saving them money. Anyway, buy all those. And then the next Christmas, the kids shop for their siblings and their parents.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
And they loved it. I mean, there's preschoolers there shopping too.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
I did that, Matt, at Awana's on Wednesday nights in the basement of Calvary Baptist Church.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Broke some special ornaments.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Man, I remember just trying to shop. I've had a hard time shopping for my dad since I was literally five at Calvary Baptist Church. I remember I got my dad a necktie. When has my dad ever worn a necktie?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
You threw it out the door?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Never seen it. Wait, I might have seen your dad wear a tie at the wedding you went to.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
I'm sure it was a hideous tie. That's a core memory I have. I was just like, I don't know what to get dad. I got Blake. I got mom. I'm like, dad.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Best dad. Yeah. Yeah.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
You didn't throw it.
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But it's funny you say that. That was the hardest thing for us to find is stuff for grown men, dads. So if you found anything, you got a ton of it.
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You can't have the kids get them beer?
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No, no, no, no. Yeah, at a Christian school. Yeah, here's your beer.
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That's what Blake would tell my mom. He'd be like, mom, can you get beer for dad for me to get him for Christmas?
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That's actually hilarious.
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But my mom would dress it up like reindeer. So it was like a six pack, but she put a little red nose and antlers on it.
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That's cute.
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That's sweet. It's like a little sleigh of beer. Man, that's one of those things that you look back on and you're like, hmm, that was messed up. That was messed up in a way.
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What is everyone's biggest holiday pet peeve? I'm going to go first. I got a bone to pick with you, mom. My mother would make the most gourmet desserts for our neighbors and friends and everyone. So nice. Like chocolate covered this. Why chocolate covered that? Like gourmet. Our house smelled incredible.
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You chucked it?
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I don't think I ever made anything gourmet. And then guess what?
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She wouldn't let us eat any of it. We just had to sit there and smell it. Not even a bite? And it was like torture.
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Okay. Well, you're exaggerating a little bit, I think. I've never made anything gourmet in my life.
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Left it on the front yard?
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Okay. But you made like the white chocolate bark. What was it called? The bark?
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Trash or whatever. Yeah. What is that? I don't know.
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Well, that's Muddy Buddies or something. But I've gotten better. You want to know why? You've gotten better? Yeah. Now that you're all gone. Yeah.
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You must have been pretty strong to carry an entire tree by yourself. Not when you're mad.
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um i learned like i was gonna make this pumpkin bread for work we had a thanksgiving gathering and i'm like no i'll make the muffins so i can leave dad a couple and no one knows see when you make like a cake or yes a brownie or something you know what i mean you can't cut a piece out but now i'm doing individual so i can share the love that's very thoughtful yummy for my 10.
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My dad taught our kids, Griffin says yummy in my tummy all the time because of you, dad. Yep. And my tummy's got bigger because of all this food of me.
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I would just leave it down if it happened in the night.
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Well, anyway, I'm sorry about that. It's okay. I forgive you, mom. Yeah. I still love you. You didn't starve to death. All right.
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Next pet peeve. No, you guys can have it.
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I have to be honest. What's your pet peeve, babe? I have to be honest.
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What is it?
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I don't like white elephants.
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oh that's okay i'm sorry i don't like it in crap so there's different levels of white elephant yeah i like my favorite things thing because you're like getting stuff that you're most likely like gonna use i like that that's like a fun one but when it's like things i'm like i'm not gonna use i'm like oh man i don't know what to do with this it kind of stresses it's like oh i gotta find a place to put it and then i gotta okay so they spent money on it white elephant
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No. Have you ever done the deed while staying with family over the holidays? Well, we know you did. Not us. Why did you ask us? You're just going to call us out like that, Mom? Your hair looks terrible, Matt. Stop. You need a haircut. Welcome back to the Unplanned Podcast. We are your hosts, Matt and Abby. And today we are joined by two very special guests who we had to work so hard to get on.
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Because John's family, it's so bad. We call it past the trash. It's past the trash. Yeah.
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I hate that game.
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That might be a little worse. I literally take whatever I get and I put it in the trash. Okay, not really.
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I probably don't eat it. No, but some of his family fight over the trash. Yeah.
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The Piggins were slim, probably. Yeah. In the past, the trash...
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So you didn't have a tree that Christmas? No, we put it back up.
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But other times we've gotten paperweights. I don't think we have any use for paperweights. I think we got a VHS one year. We don't have a VHS player.
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We won't use any names, but one of your cousins, we're having it again, the Howard extended family. And he said, this is the highlight of my year. I love your party. Thanks for inviting me. And he said, I already have a ton of trash.
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Stop.
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But that piece said no more after that.
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We can roast him on this podcast. Oh my gosh, no. And I can send a picture to everybody and see what he looks like. That's not nice. Let's hope that he doesn't have any friends to tell him about. He has no friends. Oh my gosh.
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Okay, this is bad. Pass the trash is actually not my favorite. But it's fun to have the event of it. If I can just leave the trash in your house. The little kids like it.
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The little kids like it. So we have a friend's Christmas party every year. We've done it for almost 30 years. And some people say that's the highlight of their Christmas. That's cute. And it's, it's, it's white elephant, but it's better white elephants. I mean, some people buy them and some people, a lot of them come recycled from the year before. Like, you know, we've had the singing fish.
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And after everybody's gone, she's like, that worked out so great.
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Someone brought a poop knife.
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What is that?
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That is too much. It was clean though. I looked at it.
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I didn't know there was such a thing.
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No, no, no, no. See, yeah, that's not my favorite tradition.
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Okay. And then someone, a lot of times people go to Goodwill to buy stuff to bring. Like sometimes they brought paint, you know, real paintings. They're painted. This one was like an Olympic girl. Yeah. She was like...
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In a frame, okay? Steve had rental property. This was like a $500 frame.
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A drug dealer. A $500 frame? So tell them why.
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So it was a wooden, very nice wood frame and this domed glass, you know, with the real duck stuffed in it. Oh my gosh. And people fought over that.
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It's never... He swore there were drugs in the duck.
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Pat is funny.
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You guys go too hard at your pass the trash friends thing.
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Well, you guys, I think Joe Biden had a slip of word or something a few years back, and I remember seeing a t-shirt from one of your friends brought to it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It said, Merry Fourth of Easter with Joe's face on it. And I was like, you guys are brutal. Still got it. You guys go hard, man.
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Well, somebody brought a bobcat or something to it too, right? Or no, your dad. No, that's grandpa.
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Your dad had a Bobcat, a stuffed Bobcat.
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Yes, he won't let me get rid of it.
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What is he going to do with the stuffed Bobcat? Sell it.
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That looks so weird, though, that big piece of plywood. People don't usually do that, do they? They don't put a massive piece of plywood on there.
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When? What do we mean with the stuffed bobcat? I like it.
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Caleb did. What?
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He had the bobcat. Yeah, I had the horns.
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But he didn't give away the bobcat like you gave away the horns.
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People are going to think we're like redneck.
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We are.
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We're not. I have a big dead deer in my office. Oh my gosh.
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No, I really don't have that many pet peeves. I don't know of anything. They had their pet peeves about white elephant.
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It's okay. If you want to sit this one out, it's okay. I think we've talked enough.
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You're exaggerating a little bit. Okay.
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So we agree. We want to have parties. We want to have people over. Because it helps us to clean and get rid of piles of stuff that you just let pile up. And then, but it's stressful. It can be stressful.
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I feel like if you could just slip some CBD into mom's coffee on Easter Sunday or something, I think that would do the trick. Mom would be so chill.
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No, she asked me and I did not lie. She said, is there anything sharp or that could cut?
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Wait, you had weapons in your luggage.
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Wait a second.
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Let's hear the story. Let's hear it from my mom.
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I said, no, I have nothing sharp. Well, then they opened it up and there was a kid's cooking set that I got Griffin and Because I know he likes to cook. And it had three fake knives in there that are plastic that you can literally go like this and it won't even show a mark. It's for like dough or whatever. So you were trying to bring knives through TSA. So she had to get her manager. Weapons.
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I feel like they probably make bigger bases.
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I was like, they don't cut.
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Anyway.
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I did not have weapons. So I said they can't even cut. And then the guy's like, well, if they're a replica of a reel, they were blue and yellow and green. Yeah.
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It doesn't make any sense, though, because you can bring a plastic knife from Chick-fil-A onto a flight.
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Exactly.
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Maybe your tree base was just a piece of crap. Maybe you just needed a non-cheapo base for your tree. Now it's my fault. I still have the base. I will send you a picture. By the way, I promise I'm not like a chain smoker. I've just been sick, so if I sound weird, apologies. Again. Yes.
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right so how is that any different than a plastic knife a part of a kid's cooking set it doesn't that doesn't actually make any sense like i can understand well but you bought it in it still doesn't make any sense it's not like it's not like they sell pocket knives at the airport you can bring something that's more than three ounces if you bought it in the airport yeah like i can understand look i can understand them wanting to check it out your weapon yeah
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the kids kitchen set right yeah but like if it's not sharp can't they have some sort of like cut test or something i know where they just make sure it's not sharp because maybe look like if there was a now if it's a rule that you can't have a replica then but like look if something was in the packaging and they couldn't tell if it was actually sharp or not maybe that maybe the test would be okay we have to throw away this knife or or you have to ship it to yourself because we don't know if this is actually a weapon but if it's not out if it's not in the packaging why can't they just i know make sure
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And we know that mom spent, yeah, $0.50 on that.
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No, it wasn't that cheap.
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Really?
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Anyway, they took the three knives out, and I still have the rest of the set.
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Where do you get the gifts for our kids, by the way? Because I know you're a frugal queen. It doesn't matter. But I feel like this could be helpful, though, for women out there that are trying to get a deal. Is there a specific store? Are you going to resale shops?
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GW.
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Have you ever heard of GW? Goodwill? Is Goodwill the spot?
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Sometimes. No, this was from Timu, which I... She's been really into Timu. That's how you pronounce it. That's how my friends pronounce it.
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There is an SNL skit actually about Timu where they like, I haven't seen it, but I heard people talking about it because they were getting wrecked for essentially, I don't know, not paying their workers well because I think they operate out of some, you know, developing countries.
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But like, I want to say, I haven't seen the SNL skit, but I think people were saying that you would see all these people so happy and they have their Timu and they would cut to the factory workers that are like,
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That's terrible. You're bringing us down. That's so terrible. I have only ordered there a couple times because I feel guilty. Yeah, I feel bad that it's not American made. But then you pick up anything of ours and it's just China.
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I think he's playing it up because I think he kind of likes the way it sounds. The sexy voice.
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You have a really good point. So your little kid... Can have like blocks to play with. Yeah. How screwed up is that? Is that the story of Santa Claus is about exploiting elves. Yeah. Right? Little people. It's an American tradition. Yeah. Why would you do that? Maybe we just shouldn't think about that one too much. No. But back to Timu though.
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I've only ordered from them like three times because I feel guilty. Yeah.
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You got stuff for John's party. You got stuff for our kids. Yeah. Didn't you get clothes there one time?
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I've never gotten close. I've had friends get close. Me personally. Oh, I've gotten him close. Like his papa. Papa shirts. And papa hats. And they're so reasonable.
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Very reasonable. All right. Next question. Would you ever dress up as Mr. or Mrs. Claus? Dad, have you been Santa?
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I'm not trying to play it up. It's literally, it's the problem I've been having. Why are you laughing?
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See?
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You were just making fun of me a minute ago, and half of it wasn't even true. No, I wouldn't mind. That would be fine.
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I would actually crack the frick up. I would do it. If you dress up as Santa Claus, that would be so funny. Maybe I should do it. I feel like you'd really like it, too. I think you'd have a fun time doing it. Yeah, I like getting in the character.
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But then Santa would fall asleep on the couch five minutes later. Give him one cookie.
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Oh my gosh. Have you ever watched it?
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Why? Do you think that's below you? What did you mean to be Santa and Mrs. Claus?
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I decided to be kind of cute because you guys are the grandparents.
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Yeah, we would do it.
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And I think Griffin and Augie would freak out if Santa Claus. They would recognize my voice. Well, they're so young, though. They probably wouldn't even. I don't know. I could try. Oh, I wanted to hear your best ho, ho, ho. They would know. Can you give us your best ho, ho, ho? Oh, my gosh.
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I've heard you say that like seven times in the past 24 hours. And all of a sudden he's like talking like this and then all of a sudden he goes, I promise I'm not ashamed.
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That's pretty good.
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I got to work on that. I think Griffin would know. Augie might not, but Griffin is smarty pants.
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I feel like Augie would try to rip off the beard. He always rips off glasses off your face. He would rip off the ears.
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Well, if you had food on you, he'd definitely rip it off.
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He would find the food. Find the cookies.
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That's the craziest thing, I think, is Augie had two big carrots. You're supposed to give it to the goats.
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Yeah.
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He's like, buy the big ones so they don't bite their hands off. Don't get the little ones. So he had two big ones. Instead, he just goes...
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start eating him he ate both the carrots Augie can down some food he gets it from me he can eat he probably eats as much as you mom like Augie I know he's feeding a goat a carrot while he's eating the other carrot that's pretty cute he's so cute it's just I'm like I don't know how like he'll eat his dinner and then if Griffin doesn't want to eat his dinner that night or Griffin's acting up Augie will just eat Griffin's dinner yeah
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You've got to watch out. That's okay.
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We've got to go take pictures. No, I think we've got some time. No, don't. It seems like you don't want to be here, Dad.
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I thought of a Christmas memory of a gift I got my dad. Did I tell you the story about the Grinch boxers? Speaking of weird... Like we got my dad beer and boxers. But I was like four, three, I was probably three at our old house. My parents talked about this for years. My mom had like involved me on this gift for my dad.
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Okay, this one is pretty controversial, so hold your horses. Colorful lights or white lights?
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And like I helped her wrap this pair of Grinch boxers because we loved the Grinch. And she thought it was funny to get him some Grinch boxers. And I like wrap it up with her. And then it had sat under the tree for a while. And I was like messing with the presents as a kid. And the paper started to tear.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
don't look you're gonna see your Grinch boxers oh and I didn't understand that I had just ruined the whole surprise but then they would tell me that story every Christmas oh cute how do you remember when you were three you ruined the present like telling me that and so then we got my dad a pair of Grinch boxers like for subsequent Christmases oh cute a long time cute that is cute do you like eggnog my dad that could be a holiday hot take I don't actually really like it oh yeah hot take do we like eggnog yes or no I love it
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
A shot. Like a little bit.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
I don't need a lot. But that's the weird hot take is when you guys first started dating, I thought you loved it.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
I'm like the Anderson Erickson kind. Do they sell that here?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
No, I've never even heard of that. Because you said Abby liked it when you had visited them for Christmas, but it was just that one kind.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Yeah, not all eggnogs are created the same.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
I got into it for a little bit, but I don't really care for it anymore.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Well, the Anderson Erickson kind is good. And if you have it with a latte, too, it's kind of good. Is that in Quincy or what?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
It's so dense, though.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Where is that?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Like, if I'm going to have a dessert...
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
You have to almost chew it.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
I like a lighter dessert. You know, like if I'm going to have cake, I want it to be like light and fluffy and whipped cream on top. But if you have eggnog, it is just so much sweetness and oomph into one little shot.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Has anyone actually had fruitcake or figgy pudding?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
What is figgy pudding? I don't even know what that means. We'll bring them the figgy pudding.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
I know the song. I don't even know what that means. I don't know what figgy... I mean, I'm guessing it's made with figs.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Never had figgy pudding. Have you had fruitcake? I feel like that's something John would like.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
That used to be a thing. I remember when I was little, we would get fruitcakes from people.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
And it's like they last a year, don't they?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Yeah, colored is fun for kids, but I do like the classic white on the tree and white.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
I mean, it's his side. His side.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Just my dad's side of the family.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
reminds us of the question what side of the family do you like celebrating with the most oh we can't say that roasted and toasted oh yeah actually that's really sad i know we can't i know that's so but you don't want to make anybody sad no that's like saying do you like italian or chinese well depends it's like saying pick a favorite child you know you gotta you can't say that you gotta say you love all your kids i mean like we all know that i'm your favorite child
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
We know that I'm the favorite, but we've got to pretend we like my older brother.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
I'm actually the least favorite child. My parents would never say that. But with my parents, it's like, Matt, why don't you just be more like your older brother, Caleb? Whatever he says is right. Caleb knows all the answers.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
outside dad has always decorated outside have you ever fallen off the roof trying to put up christmas lights he did fall off a ladder once babe he fell off the ladder and he was dangling from christmas lights no no no i was painting the house this was recent yeah a few years ago i thought it was this year no it was about
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
When I was decorating the Christmas tree... Let's stay on the gingerbread a minute.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Dad was putting them on. He was the prettiest. He was the girl of the family.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
I feel like the reason me and you butted heads so much growing up was probably because I'm a lot like you.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Ding, ding, ding.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Wait, I want to hear your thing about the gingerbread. So, we're always kidding like, oh, you're a Christian family? They're like, don't let Teresa see these, you know, with the males. Oh, yeah.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
are you laughing or choking i can't tell if you're laughing oh you're showing oh my god she's choking everybody abby the male body parts on the gingerbread man and the female so you're like two and caleb's like four and everybody's like trying to hide him from me and you and then they're like oh look the boy saw him you know and you're like all excited you're like look at these you know so they were just laughing we gotta be careful i hope nobody ate the
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
You guys know how this works now. People will clip podcasts and then make you look a certain way just from the clip. We've got to be careful with what you're saying. It's crazy.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
No, I feel like Blake Lively gave her kid a boob cake for his first birthday. Oh, my God.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Oh, my God.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
That's what he liked.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Wow.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
That's hilarious. But then we started getting with Betty every year and making those gingerbread. Remember? We would go to her house and make them.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
That's cute. We needed it. Yeah. We need to preface who Aunt Betty is. People are like, why does your Aunt Betty, by the way, it's my great Aunt Betty. Correct. It was my dad's aunt. Yes. But the reason she was this way, she was hilarious, was because she was a Marine. She wasn't your typical lady back in the, I think she was born in the 40s, right? There were so many.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Was she born in the 30s or 40s?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
So then she served in the Marines as a woman back in the day. My dad was born in 34. Was it in World War II?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
She's a tough cookie. Tough gingerbread cookie. That's funny. It's very sweet, though. And we would go on vacation with it. We went to Destin, Santa Rosa Beach with them. Yeah, the stuff she would do is legendary.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Oh, my gosh. That's awesome. Yep. Anyway. Well, we miss you, Aunt Betty.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
She was a lot of fun. She was awesome. Guys, what is your guilty pleasure Christmas movie? Four Christmases. I think Four Christmases is hilarious.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
That was actually really funny. I love that movie. So funny. Now, my classic that's just gives me chills, warm and fuzzy, is It's a Wonderful Life. And you guys used to have to watch it with me. And it was okay if it was after Christmas. We would call it Christmas week, Christmas to New Year's, because usually you were off and I was off and...
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
you know it's still beautiful and a lot of times as parents you're very busy before christmas getting all the gifts getting all the food getting but once christmas is over you can relax and enjoy so then that's when i would make you guys watch the movie with me but i love four christmases i love that that one's good let me tell you there's a new one on netflix oh no that
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
It's like mostly Hallmark vibes, the whole movie, except there's one crazy scene. It's called Hot Frosty. Have you seen that advertised? I saw it advertised. Okay. Yeah. It is so Netflix or it's so Hallmark vibes. It's like this guy's a snowman. She puts a scarf around him. He comes to life and he's like, she falls in love with him.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
But there is one crazy scene in it that really caught me off guard. I was asking my friends because they're like, oh, I did watch that movie. I was like, did you not think that scene with a grandma in the car? If you watch it, you know.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
It's called Hot Frosty. I just watched it because I was like, oh.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
No, I know any Christmas movie. I'll just watch it.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
There's a lot of Hallmark ones on Netflix right now. Yeah, and it's rated PG. There's just one scene that I'm like, wow.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
It's with the guy pushing the car, right?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Yeah, he's getting this grandma out of this snow bluff. She's attracted to him.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
She's making intimate noises while he's pushing the car.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
I'm going to get that part. It was so crazy. Crazy. I was making sweet potato casserole for our friends giving and just like playing that in the background. I was like, what is going on?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Did it make you laugh though? Like, be honest, did you laugh?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
I was alone. I don't really laugh watching shows alone, but I was just kind of like, I was uncomfortable.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
What's your favorite movie or several? Elf?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Let's do it on Broadway with you.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Yes.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Yes, yes, yes.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Love you, dad. You know, you're a really good dad. You're a really, really good dad.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
And wait, I want to say this too. The fact, the fact that you, the fact that you like moved around so much as a kid and you experienced so much as a child, and then you were able to step up and like raise your sons and love them and be there for us. So cool. Cause there's a lot of dads that don't do that when they have a rough childhood. And the fact that you did that is really cool.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Like that stability and tradition around Christmas. That's cool. He stopped the cycle and yeah, did the right thing.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Coached all of our sports teams and just spent time with us.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
So thank you.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Love you. You did it. Uh, should we do the next question?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
I like Christmas with the cranks, but Matt hates it. So I watched it without him. I don't care for that either.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
That movie is just like, I've seen it 10 times.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Also, I love the way that they depict their marriage because it's so like my parents' marriage as a kid. Like they would like, like bicker, like kind of like jokingly, like speak sarcastic with each other. But then like you can, you knew that they like loved each other and they would like kiss and like, yeah.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Here's my thing. I don't like to rewatch movies. Like once I've seen the movie... I don't either unless it's Christmas. But that's the thing. I'll only re-watch a movie if it's a really, really good movie. And I'm like, wow, that was so incredible. I could watch it all over again. But I'm not going to do it every year. I might watch it every five.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Hold on. Hold on every year.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Maybe every four or five years I'll re-watch a movie if it's an amazing movie. But the problem is these Christmas movies, they're not that same quality. They don't have the same production value as an incredible blockbuster film that I want to re-watch every four years. It's a Wonderful Life does. Yeah. And It's a Wonderful Life is good, but I got sick of it because we watch it every single year.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
I know. It is. It is. So that's my hot take. It's just as you get older, you just understand like, yeah, this – you know how friendships and family are important. But as you get older and older and older, it's just really like, yes, I'm going to stand on that.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Have you ever done the deed while staying with family over the holidays? Well, we know you did.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Not us.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
I don't think –
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
You let that reveal in another podcast.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
You're just going to call us out like that, Mom?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
You never have.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Yeah, it's been so long I forgot.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
It was at the Conrad's. At the Conrad's? Yeah, the Conrad's Farm. Oh my gosh. Was this on an air mattress? Well...
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Probably on the basement floor.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Yeah. Creak out, right? Yeah.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
No, I, what's funny is I think you learned that, those details about our marriage from our podcast. I forget that my own freaking parents watch our podcast, so I gotta be careful what I say on here. It's crazy.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
no you don't think your grandparents enjoyed sex that's the weird that's the weird part is i don't know what it is about it but like there's this kind of unspoken rule of we don't talk about it but it's like how the frick do you think you got here man yeah how do you think your grandma got here how do you think your grandma's grandma got here okay someone did it right yeah right lots of people did it but no one's talking about it
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
That's such a Josh thing to say. When you were ringing the doorbell, he hit your door.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
It's kind of like something everyone does, like brush your teeth. It's like if you want to talk about brushing your teeth with a friend. I said that really weird. Please say that again.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
If you want to talk to your friends about like, hey, you know, what techniques do you use to brush your teeth? It's like, I like an electric toothbrush. You know, that's not weird. But everyone brushes their teeth.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Remember when you got off? Josh heard a bunch of banging. He didn't come check on his dad.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
I've never asked anyone else what techniques they use to brush their teeth. I don't know.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
That's what the dentist is for. But like when I discovered electric toothbrushes and how much cleaner.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Hey, you got your first electric toothbrush from us when I was at the dental office.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
This is getting so weird.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
He's getting so weird. Why is it weird? It is weird, though. I don't know why it's so weird, but it is. It's an intimate thing. Oh, man. Where the heck? I don't know.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Gosh.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
abby you still with us yes okay moving along okay um okay what is budget for kids holiday gifts did you guys have a set budget for us growing up or was it kind of whatever you felt like kind of depended on the year oh yeah because of some ups and downs yeah
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Yeah, I mean, we never really said. We never really, I don't know.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
So I might get it nine months ahead of time.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Yeah. Well, my, I don't know if I'm allowed to say this or not. We can cut it out if it's, if it's not okay. But wasn't there, there was a year that like money was tight and a family member stepped in to buy our Christmas gifts, right? Very, very nice. And they, and they told you guys to not tell us, which I guess, I think you told me as an adult, cause this was when we were kids. Years later.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Yeah, we got locked out of the house. I told him we should be banging.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Yeah. But I thought that was so nice.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
I thought that was so, so nice. I'm going to remember that forever. And I still, well, I'm saying I remember that, but I mean to do that for somebody else. Yeah. Like clearly we were getting you stuff. And it wasn't like you weren't getting anything. We still have a nice house and nice things, but it wasn't going to be. And she was like, I don't want anyone to know about this.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
I don't want them to know that someone gave you the money. I just want them to think it was from you guys or Santa.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
And he goes, I went back to sleep and you guys were locked out of the house.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
And do it all the time. And not to make this political, but I'm pretty sure that family member has completely different political views than you and dad. And what's cool about that is how sometimes people get in this trap of thinking that people who think differently than them... are for whatever reason bad. I think that's a common theme in our culture today.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
And so I think it's important to remember that we're all on the same team. We're all humans. We all want to make the world a better place for the most part. Most people want the best for their children and their family. And so that family member who did that super selfless, loving, kind deed had different views than you guys. And I think that's really cool. Mm-hmm.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
oh my gosh no uh for anybody who's confused my little brother's josh and a couple years ago he's also an adult he's 22 years old okay he's more than a few years he also looks like he's older than me yeah this was like seven years ago anyway but we were stuck outside of our house for the entire night because nobody in my house would answer the freaking door well you did have a key
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
And you're right. And it's unfortunate. And I think a lot of us know this and I'm not trying to get political either, but unfortunately somebody clicks on one thing that's maybe not quite in the middle. It's a little bit this way. And this person clicks on something a little this way.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
And then we each keep getting stuff that's further and further away when we're really just right here, but we've gotten to here.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
And I think both sides use fear to make people really scared about how if that one thing that they're really, really passionate about doesn't work out, how it's like the end of the world. And so people use these fear mongering tactics to get people divided. And it's very effective, I think, to win elections.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
But I think at the end of the day, you have to remember that we're all on the same team here. Yeah.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
I know Abby has this really cool concept of something to read, something to write. I did not come up with this. What is the concept again?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Can you say it?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
I didn't follow it. Oh, you didn't follow it this year? No. It's a really cool idea.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
It's four gifts. It's something to read, something to wear, something you want, and something you need. I think.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Oh, that's good.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
But I just wanted to get my kids gifts because I, you know, I think that's a good thing to follow for their birthday.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Yeah.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Christmas, I want to make it like special, you know?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
You kind of sent it this year, didn't you?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
No, I didn't. I feel like I bought very reasonable, like thoughtful things that they'll be able to get a lot of use out of. And I got them all on sale.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
I think everyone's going to know how much we spent on the gifts. Cause are you, are you like linking the Christmas gifts or something?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Sure. If someone wants help finding things for toddlers, I feel like I found some really good ones.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
You're a good gift giver. Thank you.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
I'm so excited. Okay. I'm really excited about the Tony's box because we're traveling. We're traveling for Christmas. I think it's a great idea because people from out of state can give us like those figures are not cheap, but they're like, they make a good gift.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Great grandma wants to do that.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Yeah. Get a little figure for it. And then we can take it home with us way easier than like big presents.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Yeah. So we have to know which ones you have and which ones.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Yeah. I only got one. So then they can, that can be like, I thought that'd be the best recommendation to give other people because it's also like, well, I said, it's not cheap. They're reasonable. Like they're under $20. Yeah.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
That's, those are, that's a great idea. Yeah. I forget what your question was before.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
budget but yeah it seems like you just kind of got i think that's what my parents did too like you slap your kids so much i feel like you you think of the thing that you know that they would love and you figure out a way to get it for them yeah you find a way to find it on sale or whatever but um
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Oh, I know what I was, you were saying there's something to read. You know what was devastating for me? Sorry to interrupt, but when I realized that Santa Claus didn't come to the kids in developing countries that just needed food. Because you guys told me that when I was a kid, and I loved that.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
I was like, oh, that's so cool that the kids in other countries where they don't have access to clean water and good food, Santa comes and brings them the things they need. That was so sad when I realized that.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Well, that's why we did Samaritan's Purse, Operation Christmas Child, a lot of years. And there's people on our radio saying... Compassion International. That they're getting these Christmas boxes and it changed their life. They never got toys. That's a huge deal. What I was going to say, a lot of years I did the three gifts like the three wise men.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Because if there was only three gifts, then three gifts is enough. Because they were going to get tons from the grandparents and the aunts and the uncles. You know what I mean? It's not like... They're only going to get three gifts.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
I thought that was really cool. I mean, used to charities would just be like, donate your money. But charities figured out it's more meaningful if people know that they bought a goat for a family in need or they bought a cow for a family in need.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
And you didn't have an owner.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
so that's charity yeah clean water i know i'm we need to promote that scott harrison on the podcast if you guys haven't listened to our episode with scott harrison um that would be called clean water it's called charity water or charity water and charity water is on a mission to um fight the global clean water crisis because there's a lot of people millions of people in the world that have no access to clean drinking water and we interviewed him because we wanted to raise awareness about the good work he's doing to help these people
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
We did not have a key, mom. We did not have a key. There was no key. We did not. And we couldn't get the garage door open.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
So if there is a charity that you're thinking of donating to with the holidays coming up, definitely consider Charity Water because the work they're doing is incredible. They're actually on track to solve the crisis in the near future. I forget the year Scott said on the podcast episode, but it's happening. We're making progress. And the more people donate, the more we can raise awareness.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Eventually, everyone will have... access to clean drinking water, which is really cool because a lot of people die every year from easily preventable diseases like diarrhea and just so many things that we take for granted in America or Canada, wherever you're tuning in from. People die of these easily preventable diseases because of no access to clean water. So check out the episode.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Because the batteries were dead.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
The batteries were dead on the garage door opener. And we were banging.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Sorry to interrupt.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
And the coolest thing, not on top of that, is 100% of your money goes to the cause. Wait, you listen to the podcast? Yes. Oh my gosh, yeah. Over, we have the book, we gave, yeah.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Yeah.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
It's amazing.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
The episode didn't get the most views, which I didn't think it was. That's not why I did it. I did it because I really think what they're doing is incredible. Yeah. But I'm glad you guys listened to it.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
And you guys, we were trying to call you, but you guys leave your phones in the kitchen and you go upstairs. And then you couldn't hear us ringing the doorbells of your sound machine.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Oh, it's fantastic.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Because I think the episode blew my mind. I learned so much. Yeah. And you just like learn how these charities operate. And I love hearing about people that dedicate their lives to doing good in the world.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Unbelievable. So admirable. And how they change their lives. Yeah. Their lives were life changing. Yeah.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Yeah. Anyway, literally saves people's lives.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Yeah. So cool.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Good job, Scott. Thank you, Scott. Everyone spam the comments with go Scott or, or go charity water. Yeah. Say go charity water. Yeah. Maybe Scott would like that. Cause if everyone's commenting charity water, then I'm sure like, yeah, if you didn't have the money to donate to charity water, like spamming the comments with charity water is awesome.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
I feel like someone's going to search charity water and hear what it is. And that will probably help them in some way. I don't know.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Yeah, because if you don't, like not everyone has the resource of money, but if you have the resource of time, you could use your time to spam comment sections with like, charity water's the best. And then it's going to lead to someone out there donating. How did you guys keep Santa Claus a secret?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
You asked about everything. After 10 questions an hour, I just would say, because mom said so. Why do we have to do this?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Well, anyway, it was easy when you're little. But yeah, once you start going to school and hear about it at school, that's when it gets hard. And we just said, if you let it leak to your little brother, then you're not going to get everything you were going to get because, you know, we kind of threatened.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
How did you guys feel when Caleb and I went to prank Josh and give him coal for Christmas?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Didn't check on you when you guys were trying to get out.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
That's pretty screwed up, Dad. That would have been the funniest Christmas story ever. How? If Josh would have seen Cole, he would have bawled his eyes out. That would have been so funny. He would have gotten it on our family video. You're sick. And then now we could laugh about it and show our kids. You're evil. And guess what? His Christmas presents were just in the basement.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
It would have just been a short couple minutes.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
He heard us throwing rocks.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
He had missed out on three years. Dad, he was like eight, okay? He should have known by then. He was not eight. I figured it out when I was eight. I drilled you guys. I was like, okay, so that means the Tooth Fairy, Easter Bunny, all these mythological creatures. Creatures.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Let me finish this story, though. But I called you guys a million times, called Josh a million times, banging on the door, shouting. I'm like, I'm probably going to wake up the whole neighborhood trying to get in her house. Yeah, you say you can't sleep. You are in a deep sleeper.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Humans.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Easter Bunny's a creature, dude.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Okay, that is freaky. A big... Bunny.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
That's terrifying.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
I know.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Maybe we need to like, maybe someone needs to make a horror movie about like one of these, you know, mythological creatures coming to people's houses and giving them.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Mythological?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Mythological. I apologize.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
No, it's mythical.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Mythological?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
What is that word? Mythological and mythical. It's mythical.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
They're kind of interchangeable.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Dad, you need to get off.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
My dad sent in our family group chat a list of 15 different team names we could use for our turkey chop for Thanksgiving. And Abby thought he spent like an hour coming up with these.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
I was like, your dad really spent a lot of time coming up with these and no one voted. I was like, sweetheart.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
He used ChatGPT. We need to get ChatGPT off your phone. Nope, I love it.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
He's obsessed.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
What's your hot take on this? Santa might not be real, but do you guys believe in magical creatures? They could have used mythological there, by the way.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
My parents, John and Teresa.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Mythological. What about mythicological?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Mythicological. Here's the thing, though. I think maybe they're referring to aliens. I don't know exactly what this question is asking, but maybe the question is, do you guys believe in aliens? Yes.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
It was on 60 Minutes, right? It was on 60 Minutes.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
I don't know. It's a little hokey, all that.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
I don't know. I mean, our universe is freaking huge. Do you guys realize to get to different galaxies and stuff, it would take millions of years? I know. Millions of light years. So if you're traveling at the freaking speed of light, which is like thousands and thousands and thousands of miles per hour, if I'm not mistaken, it would take you millions of years to travel at the speed of light. Yes.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
You guys are deep sleepers. You could be burglarized and have no idea.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
I'm not smart enough to figure that. It's huge.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Our brains can't understand it. I know I was making fun of you for AI, but I feel like AI is going to help us figure out some of these problems.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Speed of light is 670,616,629 miles per hour.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
That's flipping crazy. I can't even fathom that.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Wait, here's a hot take that we actually changed our minds on, Matt.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
What is it?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
We weren't sure what we were going to do about Santa Claus with kids. And then there's just something that actually completely flipped in me. Because people are allowed to change their minds. Seeing magic on your kids' faces and experiencing that as a kid yourself. I'm like, I don't want to keep that for my kid, though. It wasn't worth it.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Thanks a lot, Abby.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Obviously, that's a confusing thing and we'll take conversation. But it's not worth taking it out. So now we're doing 180. We're doing Santa and we're also doing Elf on the Shelf. He's coming the day after Thanksgiving.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Don't tell them our address.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
That's exciting.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Got the book and everything. And I'm already thinking of all, like Griffin's going to wake up in the morning. We're going to have like the elf set up doing like ornery things. I've already been talking about it. I was like, you know, Santa's sending the elf to our house after Thanksgiving. And he's coming soon. And I heard he likes marshmallows.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Here's where we live. But what I wanted to say, though, is Abby and I had to spend the night in our car because nobody would open the door.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Like all the buzzwords that Griffin loves marshmallows. So the day after Thanksgiving, I think we'll have like the little elf.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
in the in the marshmallow container in our pantry but yeah we completely changed our mind on that that was my hot take before i was like maybe we don't do santa now i'm like i'm 100 santa and i see both i see both sides i totally do but yeah i think you can just do santa but not be insane about it you know what i mean yeah what would be crossing the line
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Was that a hot topic of discussion back in your day with some parents doing Santa, some parents not? Because I think some of our friends didn't do Santa Claus.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
I also don't want my kid to be the one ruining it for other kids.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Lying to your kids. Years and years and years. Let's normalize lying to your kids, you know?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
No.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
It's not lying. It's just having fun.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
They're the easiest guests to book. They're always down.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
But yeah, just don't go insane. I honestly feel like it's just tapping into your own imagination and your own magic. Because I tell Griffin, I'm like, maybe that sound is a lion. Like thinking like that is just fun. Yeah.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
In Baldwin, Missouri. It was very dangerous.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
That's what I thought too. I was like, exactly.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
It's fantasy. It's fun. So do adults. You know, look at Abby's mom. She's obsessed with it. How many times a year? She has about 50 pairs of Mickey ears.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
And Josh, the funniest part, though, is Josh, we were so out. Here's the funniest part. We are so loud. Josh said he woke up, heard people saying, let us in. He heard us, heard my voice banging, but he was like, I was just tired though. So I just went back to bed. He was like, I thought, yeah, maybe that's Matt and Abby stuck outside the house.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Yeah. And backpacks. And she lives at our house. It's Christmas with Mickey in her room. Yeah. Yeah.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Yeah, make it fun. Just a little levity. A little bit of lying to your kids isn't going to hurt anything. Yeah, I change my mind. I see both sides, but this is what I want to do because it's just freaking fun, okay? Okay, yeah. It's just fun, okay?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Something that I think is so funny about you, mom, is you were never very sarcastic with us growing up. I've gotten a little bit more sarcastic thing around Abby's family. Abby's mom is so sarcastic and I used to think she hated me because she was so sarcastic around me.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
But now that I'm being more sarcastic around you, you don't pick up on it all the time and you get like actually mad at me sometimes. It's super funny. It's super funny. Yeah.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Yes. Well, I think it's a little bit of I'm black and white and that's how I was raised in our family. When you said I'm black and you said I'm white. I was like, what on earth are you saying right now? Things are black and white. And I think that's a lot of my family are engineers and it's black or white. There's no gray. Things are either right or wrong.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
And then that's how my personality comes out. And if you're the mom, that's how you raise your kids.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
But that's why sarcasm is so fun because it tests the boundaries of what's black and white. And it makes life more fun because then you learn how to like tease people and they tease you back. And it's so funny.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
But it's true. But if that's all you say to that person, then it has a different effect on them. You're right. If you don't say things that are positive ever, I'm not saying you, but someone else.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Yeah. Yeah. And that's why it's all about balance, right, Mom? I feel like you taught me that balance is so important.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Matt, I honestly will say sarcasm was kind of how my parents showed me love very good.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Yeah.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
They're like, oh, well. But I never offended. I was laughing with them. I don't know. I knew that was how they showed their love. They were not affectionate in that way. So I think it can go both ways.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
You're right, though. Like even seeing your dad, like your dad is such a quiet man. But I've like because I've gotten so much closer to him over the years, I've seen this new side of him come out and see him come out of his shell. But around strangers, your dad's like super quiet, doesn't talk.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
He'll never be on this podcast. That would be awesome.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
There's no D at the end. Just Ga. Ga will never be on this podcast.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
But the thing is, seeing your dad be a grandpa though, he opens up with our kids. He lights up and it made me really realize like, you know what?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
That's how he was with me as a kid. But just like,
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
yeah people that are shy like you might think oh they don't they don't have that warm fuzzy side no they do you just haven't seen them in the right scenario for them to open the setting yeah but uh it was funny though because you mentioning showing love i was curious do you guys think it's showing love to someone if you re-gift them a gift you already got what is our thought what what's our hot take on re-gifting gifts i don't want to gift it back to them yeah
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Josh isn't here to defend himself.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Yeah, that's true. We better.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
That's enough.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
i know we did stay tuned for the next episode with josh defending himself all right what's the next question are we gonna answer these questions oh yeah what about you we probably should answer these i guess for like for lights i want to say colorful lights because it is more like feels like vintage classic yeah vintage fun but uh the colored ones only look good if they're those big glass bulbs yes we can't have those with round kids
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Don't know if you guys knew this. I actually know the CEO of Regifting Gifts, and her name's Teresa Howard. Everybody give it up for Teresa Howard, everybody.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
What are you talking about?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
That's called sarcasm. That's called sarcasm.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
I mean, why are you saying that? Why are you saying that?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
You're the CEO of Regifting Gifts.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
I don't know what example you're talking about.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
You are the queen of regifting.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
She's asking for an example.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
You re-gift stuff all the time. No, I don't.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
That was supposed to be. If someone brings it to the white elephant, it's a joke if it comes back again.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
My mom has a closet full of gifts on the ready to give to people.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
given time that's smart that's very sweet no you're very you're a very thoughtful woman and you're very kind to your friends and you um you show love by giving people gifts yeah so i apologize that i get i that i didn't get you a gift for your birthday this year i'm sorry i knew that made you really sad but we did fly you out to disney world that was awesome that was awesome yeah
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
no like if you're a working woman and you're busy and all that you know this girl at work gave me she had made these bags full of fruit fresh fruit they had bought and frozen for her three kids as snacks and she's like they won't eat them I'm trying to be healthy but they won't can you take well you take some of these because I can't eat all these because she has three very busy I'm like oh my gosh I'd love to she goes I'm gonna throw them away I'm like
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
to not throw them away she came to me so I found a little journal and a little you know I went and got a little gift and a card out of my because I can't go shopping that not have time so I gave her a little gift the next day she's like oh my gosh, you didn't have to give me a gift for giving me this stuff I was going to throw away.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
So it's just stuff like that to be able to give somebody something when they did something nice for me.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Yeah, if you got a gift from my mom, just know it might have only been $3, but she thought about you and that's what matters. So anyway.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Abby's giving me a side eye because we have family pictures to go take. But thank you everybody for tuning in. Please be nice to my parents in the comments. They are the salt of the earth. They're such sweet people. My dad likes to call himself Papa J-Dog for some reason. He has it on t-shirts. So you can give him a shout out in the comments. He'd probably love that.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
They'll be reading the comments too. I know you guys will probably be like deep in the comments on this episode.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
All right. We should probably go.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
I know we told you guys we're going to be talking about holiday hot takes, some controversial holiday questions, but we actually lied. We're going to be doing a conversation about your sex life. So you guys can just kind of give us a little rundown. It's going to be really short.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
That's what I'm saying. The big glass bulb colorful lights are so iconic. I love those. But it has to be the right ones. I think if you have the teeny little lights, it looks dinky.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Yeah, that I don't like.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Yeah. Yeah.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
And then for trees, I'm fake because I want the tree to be up for a long time.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
And I'm team Christmas tree that has the lights pre-installed.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Plus, Matt, we would not know. Yeah, pre-installed. They don't do those in nature. No.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
No, I do our tree in about five minutes. It's so quick. Not ornaments, obviously, but setting up the tree itself.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
I don't want to fasten a tree to my car like that.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
I just want to put it in my trunk. We would definitely get into some sort of altercation if we were trying to chop a tree down.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
We tried not to.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
I saw it and I told him. And now he's acting like he made it.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
You probably saw this on Instagram Reels, didn't you? No, I did a chat GPT. Okay. Wait, hold up a second. You guys aren't on TikTok, but you're on Instagram Reels. Yes. Is that what everyone over 50 is doing these days?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
I think they're on Facebook. Facebook. I just saw it on an Instagram. Somebody had done that. And I thought that was a cute idea.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
That's kind of funny.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Because we used to never, ever, ever get anything out till after Thanksgiving. Because I feel like it's a ripoff for Thanksgiving. We should be thankful and grateful. But it's such a short time period. And this year, it's especially short. And we are traveling here for Thanksgiving. So we were like, we have to get this stuff out.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
But if you want to do it really early, you can put the sheet over it and have a ghost in your house. And That's cute. That actually is. It is cute.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
That is kind of cute. You're very protective of my younger brother, Josh, because he is your youngest. He's still my baby. He's 22 years old with a beard. But, you know, the thing is about Josh is you were always like, we can't decorate for Christmas because that'll ruin Josh's birthday. But it's like, it's not like we don't celebrate Thanksgiving to not ruin Josh's birthday.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Hey! What side of the family do you like celebrating with the most? Oh, we can't say that.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
So that always threw me off. You're kind of like, why holding off on Christmas until Josh's birthday? Yeah.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Well, it was more Thanksgiving. It's a combination, Josh's birthday and Thanksgiving. Because Josh's birthday is the 26th, and Thanksgiving is always a day or two around that. Do you have Thanksgiving decorations? We'll fall.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
That must be so hard for Josh, celebrating a major holiday right on his birthday every year. Man, I feel so bad.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
His life must be awful. That's so tough.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
He's scarred for it, yeah.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
That is really, really tough for him. That's why he got an ice cream cake last night.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Dad, how have you dealt with having your birthday so close to Father's Day every year? It's been rough. He's been ripped off.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Do I suck it up? He said suck it up, Buttercup. You're a man.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Or act like a man.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
So what would you say to someone out there who has a birthday also?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Sorry. You can tell Matt not to move on. Attention deficit issue. I'm trying to be funny too hard. Okay. Bad joke. I didn't even know this was a hot take. Why is this even a hot take? But I guess I'll read it. Opening Christmas presents, Christmas Eve, Christmas Day.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
She likes it like that.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
No, some people do open presents on Christmas Eve.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
New Year's. So there's three options. When do you open them and why? Christmas Day. I Christmas Day.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
And they were Catholic. And a lot of Catholic families, I think, make a big deal about Christmas.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
christmas eve at least the catholic families i know like our brother-in-law bob they would all meet christmas eve and do it your family did so that was kind of your thing right but my family always christmas day only and it was what about your extended family cheating aunts and uncles yeah we all did it christmas day christmas day how did you get to everybody's house we did one lunch and one supper
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
What about not wrapping the gifts for your kids? Because I've heard there's some wacko families out there that won't wrap their kids' gifts and just lay them out.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Thanks everybody for tuning in. Hey, hit that like button.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Wait, that's what you guys did? Yeah.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Yeah, when Matt told me that, I was like, that's crazy. Well, everybody else wraps your gifts.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
I've heard it's pretty traumatic for some kids.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
We have to keep this, you know, is this parental guidance or, you know, children watching how we.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Oh, kids don't watch this show. This is an adult show.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
You know, I don't want to say anything. You can say whatever. We already said sex. Santa, you know, all that.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Don't listen to this with your three-year-old or your kids around you.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
So everybody wraps your gifts, which is awesome. But I was raised, and then this is what we did. We came down and it was three girls. And then with us, it was three boys. Like you come down and you each have your pile of stuff, your section, you know, and it's just like... And they're unwrapped. Yes. And we did that too.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Everyone wants to know where Matt gets it from. Okay. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Unwrapped was from Santa. Wrapped was from family members. Every Christmas I was so disappointed to see that Santa didn't wrap my presents or my parents. They were just all out there.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
okay wait that's actually so then you guys just start playing like yes so we did they were wrapped and everyone had to open them one at a time and ours were numbered like we would work up to like the biggest gift you're so pretty by the way sorry you're so pretty dad already said that earlier i mean that's weird
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
that's funny they were numbered I don't know because it was like all the attention was on the person opening them no no we did that at both grandmas when we did it with the aunts and uncles everything was wrapped and we each took a turn yeah each person got their pile in front of them with you know wrapped and each one and we all sat there and watched each one do it and I know especially our brother-in-laws were like I'm gonna lose my mind this is taking forever yeah it does take a long time did you think that the first time
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Okay, well, I think this is a good, this is a safe way to start out. Real tree or fake tree? Are you guys a fan of the real Christmas trees? Are we more of fake tree people? Do you want to start? Holiday, what's your hot take? Mom?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Did you have like a we spend this much on each kid or was it like a number of gifts thing?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Like an iPad?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
I love a real tree. I think it's prettier. I think it smells better. But I would always have like allergy attacks and start feeling sick from it. So we've gone to fake, but I think a real is gorgeous.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Yeah.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
No, I don't mean that. No, I mean, it was a, it wasn't exact number amount, but around. And then some things were to share, like you got those, the drum set, which was mainly for you, but obviously you could share it with your brothers. But so, and then, right, I would, if somebody looked like they had a lot and somebody didn't, I'd get a couple little things that, you know, made it look better.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
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Abby kept bringing babies up to me the other day at a party we were at.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
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With the Beastons, there are friends that we see like once a year. Like we, I feel like we all hang out like in January and then it's like, all right, see you guys. We don't really see him for another year. That's how it's been for the past couple of years. Um, but it's good. Yeah. We got to go snowboarding. We got to do a podcast episode with them.
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We got to, we, oh, we went to, um, not IHOP, but what's the original pancake house? That place is so good.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
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Yeah, it's way better than IHOP.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
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Yes, they have one in Utah. I think they have a couple in Utah, but I don't know what it is. People in Utah love breakfast food and they do a good job of breakfast food.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
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All of our friends in Utah happen to be like incredible cooks.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
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When are these things happening, by the way? Because we were on January. Did this happen in February? Yep. Are you on February now? I'm on February. Okay.
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That was awful.
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Do you feel like you are doing better?
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Is that what happened? You weren't feeling well one day and you were like, why is today so awful? And you realized it was the anniversary of him finding out he had cancer.
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It's so sad. Cause yeah, I mean like I, I didn't know if you were, we were going on a trip to Vegas a couple of weeks ago and I was just getting gum. Like it was like so silly. I was like, I'm gonna get some gum. And I was like asking the cashier, like what's the best gum you have? Like what, what's your favorite flavor?
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And I didn't realize, the reason that I ended up getting the flavor that your grandpa got, did you eventually say? I told you in the car. You told me in the car? Yeah. Because I think eventually I landed on that flavor, but I'd forgotten that was what your grandpa liked to chew all the time. And then you started crying and then I thought, oh crap, what did I do?
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But I didn't realize that seeing that flavor was going to have that effect on you.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
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Worst decision ever. I should have never done that. That's the weirdest thing.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
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I had no more hair. And, you know, at first, I was like, this looks so tough. I look back at pictures... gosh was that bad gosh is it bad like my hair is just i have such thin fine hair and it just doesn't it you can see straight to my scalp it's just scalp all i look like i'm bald practically you know it made me look like i was 20 years older than i actually am Seriously, I was seeing comments.
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Like, I think your feet are cute. I just don't understand how a man could think a woman's foot is sexy. That just doesn't really make sense to me.
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Thank you. A big part of it is just getting a good barber, like having a good haircut like this. My hair hasn't really changed all that much from last year. I mean, I've been taking stuff and I've been open about this on the podcast. I've been taking stuff to help with hair loss, but it's really just the haircut.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
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It's a haircut.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
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We got the opportunity to interview Ginger Duggar right after interviewing Jill Duggar, which is crazy.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
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Should we interview every single Duggar member of the Duggar family? I feel like that'd be kind of cool.
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it would be an honor was it okay was it us or was it them that said collect them all was it was that a stupid joke that i said i can't remember when we like did this i don't think they said that okay yeah i probably made that joke um and may also our sons were bring bearers for the first time that was so cute them in those little suits kind of wasting money though because i feel like they never once were
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It's a foot, you know? It's a freaking foot. Apparently people make a lot of money on OnlyFans doing that. They'll just post feet pictures every day.
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they'll get like a whole entire cup full of sand in their crock and i'll take their crock off and it's just yeah after taking them to the playground it's crazy i don't know how they do that yeah that's their specialty that's why our floors inside our house are so sandy was it june that we recorded your music video that you literally never posted
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yes that is that is exactly talk about that on this podcast i think i think i hyped it up for a little bit and then um and and yeah i just i never posted it why not you got insecure there's a whole backstory to it yeah i don't know i i don't know it wasn't the right timing i think like i can at least watch it yeah i thought i thought i showed it to you no the finished product never I don't know.
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No, I think it's actually real. I'm pretty sure it's real. And I'm pretty sure there's like a website.
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I decided to scrap that one. Just, it's tricky. The whole music thing that I did, that was like, I actually spent a lot of time doing music this past year. Learned a lot. Why are you looking at me like that?
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Well, it was sad, but it's okay.
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I may have taken some of my songs down.
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How did you know?
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Oh, really?
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Oh yeah. They were, they were gone. Yeah. But you know, the thing that I learned about how music works is most artists will write like over a hundred songs and then pick the best, like five, pick the best 10. Um, And what I was doing is I would write a song, put it out, write a song, put it out, which is fine.
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But I think when you have more eyeballs on you, you're going to get a lot more scrutiny, which is totally... I have to be able to deal with that as someone who does social media, whatever. But yeah, I definitely made some mistakes. I definitely wish I could have... If I could go back and do it again, yeah, I would have made a lot of changes, but... you know, you live and you learn.
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And I think that's one of the biggest things that I've learned from this year is in life, you either win or you learn, right? Like you can get all down and be like, Oh, I lost. I did. I failed this thing. But if you just get down and you focus on failure and you focus on losing, it does nothing for you. You just have to know that when an outcome doesn't go your way, you learn from it.
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And that's what I'm hoping to take from this year.
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Why are you mad?
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People are mean.
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Yeah. Screw all those people. Yeah, I mean, like people and I feel bad for people that are mean, you know, they've probably been through something. They've probably been through something traumatic or I don't know, like maybe they had a really hard childhood. Maybe they just lost a loved one. You know, you never know what someone is going through.
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Maybe they just want premium foot content, which they're going to get on my story. Honestly, I probably get a lot of people with foot fetishes on my story because my feet make an appearance like every week.
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Fair, fair.
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He's better at understanding complete sentences now. But back then I felt like I had to communicate using like one word. Multiple times. Yes. He'd be like, cactus, owie, owie, owie. And then he saw that it popped and he'd be like, cactus, owie, owie, owie. He would just like keep saying that. And he knew that they were sharp, which is so cute.
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Okay, I thought people were asking about me though at the event. Was I supposed to go? What? Because I thought you told me, even though it was like all these ladies, that people were like, where's Matt? I thought, did they think I was making a cameo appearance at your special ladies event?
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Yeah, I could have worn pink. I could have pulled up in a pink suit. I thought you told me that once you got back from the event.
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Every week, you know, but they're kind of weird looking, but I feel like that's what they're into, right? Like they're looking for some weird.
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How the frick have we been married for five years? It's crazy.
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I was looking back at old pictures last night, and it's weird. You realize how much life you've lived when you see yourself living in different states, different houses, different apartments. It's just we've spent so much time together over the past five years of marriage, and we started dating eight and a half years ago.
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We got almost a decade. Almost a decade together.
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Unreal.
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Really? Just because we didn't have deep community there?
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I feel like my brain is getting smarter.
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Yeah. We did meet some cool people, like our friends Kyle and Renee. Oh, totally. They were super fun. I love them. Super chill.
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Yes. I feel like she was probably one of your favorite podcast guests.
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Why Reese? Why her?
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You think they're looking for just like a regular dude's foot? No, they want a weird foot.
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It was a bummer that we didn't get to interview Will that day when we interviewed her.
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I guess he was at a bachelor party that day so he couldn't he couldn't make it but that is the weird thing maybe one day we'll have them both on let's put it out for 2025 we have them both on yeah we should because I think the new season of um the the show comes out on that would be fun
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
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That is, I will say the weirdest thing about doing our show is we'll be like watching Netflix and Abby's like, oh, that'd be cool to interview that girl from the Dallas Cowboys cheerleader show. And then boom, like a week later. That was so cool. We're in her living room talking to her about being on the show. It's just weird. It's really crazy.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
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They want golem feet. That's what I got. I got hairy golem feet. My toes are hairy.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
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I know.
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That was the end of two under two.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
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Two under two is wild.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
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I was actually thinking the other day, I was like, man, I want to slow down time. Like I want to freeze time just because now they're just growing like weeds. They're growing so fast and Griffin already looks like... I mean, he's a full-on little boy now. It's not like he's a baby. No, he's like a little boy.
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Yeah. Big kid stuff. I just bought him some soccer cleats, some shin guards, soccer socks. So cute. And I'm like, dude, I want to soak all this in because... It's going fast. This is the time I've been dreaming of. Our relationship is so sweet and I just want to squeeze him every time I see him. I just love being around him.
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Those kids. Mom! like so excited that is actually probably one of the best parts about being a parent whenever you come home from you know whatever like say i'm gone for a little bit i come back if you're upstairs and come back downstairs exactly like i leave my office and they see me they freak out it's like i'm superman and i just like showed up with a cape on you know it's it's
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It's really sweet. It feels good to be loved like that. But then we love them so much. I think they, maybe the reason they freak out is because they know that we love them so much. So they get excited to see us too.
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Shari Hawkins, such an incredible person to meet, interview. Pretty crazy that she competed in the Olympic Games. That's incredible. Can you imagine training that much to compete in the Olympic Games?
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Really, I think that was great. I think it was a great time to move. I'm so glad you're saying that. Love the new neighborhood. We've met so many more people in the same stage of life as us.
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It's just hard to be friends with people that aren't going through the same things you're going through. Like if you... don't have any kids and you're single and then all your friends are like married and have kids, I feel like that would be tricky. Same thing is true.
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Yeah, or like, I don't know, say you are working a certain job and you have odd work hours because of whatever job you have. That would make it harder to be friends with people that aren't in a similar stage of life to you. And so I think having friends that also have kids around the same age as ours,
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Can we talk about your birthday? Yes. I feel like that might've been... My favorite birthday of yours that we've had really every year for abby's birthday. I like to send it I like to send it it started when abby Celebrated her 18th birthday. I showed up at her house In a massive present and I popped out and started singing 2016 And this is all the way back in 2016. I skipped school the next day.
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She skipped school the next day. And it was it was a magical birthday. I took you out to get sushi because I knew that you liked sushi at the time. And ever since then, I was like, I need to always go beg for your birthday. So that's why this year I was like, we're going to Vegas. We're going to the spa. We're getting massages and we're going to see a show. And it was unreal.
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restful and fun experience so you nailed that birthday you're setting the bar high you are what are you gonna do for my birthday next time what are you doing something huge what are you taking me to paris i don't i don't know i haven't been there i would love to go actually we should go to paris at some point i would that would be awesome yeah because that when we were terrified to take our kids on the flight
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dude what if we would have ever moved to Paris because the reason we moved to Hawaii was because we did a vacation to Hawaii and the vacation we did to Hawaii was a 50 that was like just a that was all chance because we were deciding between Paris and Hawaii and we chose Hawaii so if we would have chosen Paris instead back while we were in college maybe we would have ended up in Paris
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Thanks, babe.
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Abby kept bringing babies up to me the other day at a party we were at. It was like, hey, Matt, look at this cute baby.
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No, she physically was bringing up actual human babies one after the other. They were so cute. Because our friends have babies. And you brought up like three different babies. It was crazy. I was like, where are you finding all of these babies?
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I just have a good eye.
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And so I think it was clear from that that Abby already has baby fever, which is wild. I mean, like that... It's not wild. The hormones or whatever's going on is like... It's not wild at all. ...is working over. The fact that you want to have babies after how hard both your births were, I'm like, you're tough.
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You're tough as nails. No, I...
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Yeah, I mean, I've always envisioned myself having all boys because I always had brothers and I just in my head, it was like everyone has boys. There's no nobody's have. How are these girls getting here? I don't know because I have all brothers. No, but who which one of our friends was it that he was like with his daughter? And I was like, that is the sweetest relationship.
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Like the daddy daughter relationship. So cute. So, so, so, so, so cute. And it and that was like probably the first time that I thought was probably Tom and his daughter. No, it wasn't Tom. I mean, like such a sweet relationship, but it was somebody else that I was thinking, man, that's so, so cool. I would love that. I mean, I would love to have a daughter, but I already have two boys.
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So we're going to have to put a pin in this conversation until, you know, another year or so.
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No, I don't think so.
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You call the shots, so whatever you want, babe.
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I said we were going to live in Hawaii forever, and look how that turned out. Shut up.
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I actually do like Arizona. Why are you looking at me like that? We like Arizona.
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I'm just messing around. No, Arizona is great.
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Oh man. Justin and Haley. You're serious? Justin and Haley. Yeah. Wow. That'd be insane. Reach for the stars, man. That'd be insane. Hey, if you say it out loud, maybe there's a chance.
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Manifest that. I'm manifesting it.
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Dude, that's the thing. I don't really get starstruck anymore because you sit down with enough people that are famous or whatever. You don't really see them as anything other than human. I think we start to, in our brain, make people that are famous into some magical thing. that is like more than just human. Everyone's just a person.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
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to seeing your wife shower every day because I was like, this is incredible.
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And so, yeah, I used to, I'd get super nervous with certain podcast guests, but I've really chilled out just because you see everybody as just a human being.
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I was starstruck when we interviewed Taylor Lautner, but that was one of our first interviews. Like I, I was still figuring out how to be an interviewer and how to talk to people. Um, but now I feel like I'm so much more comfortable asking people questions.
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That's more of a you question, baby.
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I don't really care. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I haven't really thought through that at all.
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What would we talk about?
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Yeah, when you go to a live show for a podcast, do they just like sit on stage and talk? I don't know. I guess. I guess that's what they do.
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Date nights.
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I'm so much more than that, Abby. Come on. No, I think it's just spending quality time together. Like that was, that was why we chose when we went on our Vegas trip for Abby's birthday to just drive for five. We didn't fly there. We just drove and drove five hours from Phoenix to Vegas. And we just talked the entire time. It was amazing. It was like one of the highlights of my month.
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I need some factual information to back up this feeling I have of like, man, I just feel like my soul is filled up to the brim whenever I get to like, you know, just like, wow, hey, there's a beautiful woman with absolutely nothing on that happens to be the woman that bore my children. So it's pretty cool. It's pretty awesome.
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Yeah, we do read books.
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are not even close to being perfect at this but it's definitely a goal that we have like a common goal yeah i i really do like car rides though with you because it just it allows for a space to have a really long conversation almost felt like we were at a sleepover in in high school and we're just like hanging out and just chatting about last night too just coming home from that party and like we were just changed
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I did have a loogie in my throat. That's so gross. I couldn't get it out of there. I'm sorry. I had to swallow that thing.
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I never in a million years thought there'd be a People Magazine article made about that. Did you know that? People Magazine made an article about it.
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But hey, now I can tell people I was on People Magazine.
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Oh my gosh. I mean, I can laugh about it now. At the time, I was horrified.
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Yeah. I'm like laughing about it. It's been enough time now that I can laugh about it. But it was painful at the time, but I can laugh about it now. I think it's funny now. I'm like, that is so stupid. I mean, the words I said too were so stupid as well. Like it just, I obviously did not sound good at all. Another thing. I don't think it did. Another thing that I think didn't help at all.
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The funny thing is, like, if you look at our conversation, though, the clip that we put out... I don't watch our clips. It was a clip that we put out. Should have never gone out. But it just made us look like... It was like, well, you know, Father's Day and Matt's birthday are, like, really close, so we're not going to celebrate that this year. I just looked so selfish.
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I looked so, like, full of myself, you know? Which is... What me saying that was I being selfish for myself? Okay.
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I feel like my brain is getting smarter.
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It's been cool to see so many women come up to you and say how they've been encouraged by you opening up. That's been really neat.
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Okay, you know what freaked me out? Is chat GPT was a woman's voice, which was kind of calming. It kind of felt like it was just like my personal assistant. Like, yes, whatever you need, whatever, sir. It changed to a man's voice and it freaked me out.
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Oh my gosh. Maybe if I took my ADHD medication, I would be better about that crap. I wouldn't be saying so many unhinged things. I have seen the comments. So people are like, hey, I appreciate Matt asking the questions everybody wants to know. You know, like when I just like ask something that's like totally, totally out there. It's like everybody wants to know it.
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It depends. Half the time, yes. Half the time, I'm like, I don't realize it until after the fact.
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That's actually what's crazy. When you watch yourself, this is the weirdest thing about doing a podcast.
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I know you don't watch podcasts, but like when you watch it back, it's like very interesting to see how people see you. Cause then you can see how it's like, it helps you be more self-aware. That makes sense. right? Like you have a lot more self-awareness when you watch the footage back in the moment. Sometimes it's hard to be as self-aware when you're living something.
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I didn't change it on my own. So then I was like... Did I get hacked? Like what's going on? It became a British dude.
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Well, you just never know what someone's gone through.
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We're all guilty of it though. Like think about anytime that you've done something bad or something, maybe you've done something like really bad in your life. Think about the situations that led you to do that thing.
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Nothing crazy. Like you haven't killed anybody, you know, like, so you're off the hook there. I'm just kidding. Abby, but I'm just saying like when, when everybody makes mistakes, right. But oftentimes people don't just like out of nowhere make a mistake. There's usually some sort of underlying situation that led them to do the quote unquote bad thing they did or say the mean comment they did.
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Right. So I think you can't take it as personally when you know that people are just dealing with hurt and they're taking it out on you. With anything, too. Even in life, if someone's mean to you at the grocery store and it potentially could ruin your day, you have to be like, hey, I can let this affect my day right now or I can choose to be the bigger person.
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It was a black female voice. I could just tell. That's what the chat TVT voice was. And I thought that was so chill. I was like, I like this. Like, I feel like we're good friends. And then it became this like white British guy. And I'm like, this is weird. Like that just threw me off.
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I mean, we're going to have that talk with them one day. That'll definitely be something that we have. I think, yeah, I, I guess, I guess I want them to like learn from us, I guess, like learn from our mistakes, learn from our, our wins, our losses.
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Totally. And when our kids are going through puberty and having all these different thoughts. I want transparency. Yeah, I want transparency because I think that must feel very lonely for them to go through that and wonder, man, am I the only person that's having these desires? It's like, no, freaking everybody has those desires, dude. It's okay. You're normal. You're not weird.
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So yeah.
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I think that's something that you've been really passionate about. I think that's cool. I would be okay with our kids doing some regular school, but I do like how homeschool you can cater the learning to them and help accelerate their learning.
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Oh, you totally would.
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Oh, you'd be incredible.
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Yeah. Oh yeah.
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Holy crap. That's crazy.
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Oh my gosh. That's insane.
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Oh, man. See, I don't even want to pick a favorite because there's been so many good people.
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I think like, I felt like me and old ChatGPT voice were like, we had a bond, like we were just friends. But now I feel like I have to, you know, be more, be more official. Cause like British, a British accent, I don't know. That just seems like super formal, super together. And as you can tell by the name of the podcast, I'm not someone that has it all together.
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Yeah. And I'm very... proud of what we've been able to accomplish like it's it's been crazy that we've been able to get to do this and that you guys have been tuning in week after week it's unreal like i'm i'm i'm proud i'm thankful i'm i feel so blessed and totally My my overall hope is that the podcast has helped somebody. And I feel like it has.
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I feel like when when we see people out in public that especially come up to Abby and like, hey, you really helped me get through that hard time after, you know, having two under two or going through postpartum like that makes it all worth it. Or the girl that we met in Disney World while we were in Disney World with our kids that came up and told us.
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How our videos really helped her through a tough, challenging time in her life. That's really cool.
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And this community is amazing because we've been able to raise money for St. Jude to help, you know, bring an end to childhood cancer. We've also been able to together raise money to support charity water with our interview with Scott Harrison and everything he's doing to bring an end to the global water crisis. So you guys are incredible. Um, and we're here, here's to another hundred baby.
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Here's to another hundred.
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I think so.
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You gotta keep it going. Yeah.
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No, that is actually the craziest thing. Anybody that we meet that tunes into the podcast, it's crazy how quickly we vibe.
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Because they already understand us and even though we've never met them before,
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they you know they probably are just a certain personality well there's something very similar like to us that that drew them to us so then it's like we can you know bond over that it makes sense it's like since they their our personalities kind of vibe with their personality even though we've never met them before it's like yo we could be friends and we've actually we actually have friends that we've a lot of we've met made that literally found our podcast and then we're like hey i like your podcast and then we end up becoming like really good friends which is so weird that's crazy
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah. Well, everybody, thank you so much for tuning in for episode 100. This is insane.
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Yeah. Well, we will see you in the next episode. Hope that you stay around to see episode 200 when that comes around.
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People would know. The thing is, people know everything about us. That's the crazy part. I'm like, we put so much out there. You know when we interviewed Danny and Jordan on this podcast, they're like, none of us could ever run for president. We'd get screwed. We'd be so screwed. Abby, now that we've done 100 episodes, this is actually kind of freaky, but whatever. We have like 120 hours.
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Why are you whispering? All right. See ya. Bye.
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i got exposed that's like hey okay i'm gonna expose you right now so abby played heyday it's like a app on your phone it's a game like all the time growing up and then she just did a brand deal with them and so like with doing the brand deal obviously she's been playing a lot again and now she's addicted now i can't get her to freaking stop i'm like dude chill you're being like a middle schooler okay i get it like you like this game i'm not addicted but
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You're addicted. What are you talking about?
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Yeah, yeah.
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You know what's weird about like a lot of these games is they're mimicking real life things that people actually have to do to survive or used to do to survive. And it's like you get a quicker dopamine hit though because it's like you just have to tap a screen. It's like harvested your wheat. Okay, now you're milking your cow.
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I know, but I feel like it gives you the dopamine hit of what farmers used to get back in the day. Like after they'd have a long day's of work and they're like.
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Episode 100. We were going to have a cake today, but very on brand for us. We didn't plan it. Who was going to get us a cake? I was going to have a cake, and then we were going to play a game, and then whoever lost the game was going to get their head shoved into the cake for episode 100. Wow. That would have been fun. Yeah, it would have been fun. So maybe one day we'll do that.
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That's the thing. We are so vulnerable on these podcasts, which is weird. But at the same time, we constantly change as people. So it's kind of nice to know like, okay, well...
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sure maybe I said something stupid in the past and also like I don't I don't know of anybody that's ever not something stupid I don't know I've never met a perfect person before you know I haven't personally but it's kind of nice it's kind of nice to be like yeah uh maybe I'm like vulnerable on this thing but I'll be a different person a year from now so like you can look back and you can you can learn from who you were back then that's are you learning anything new
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Oh, yeah. I've learned so much this past year.
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Like the first thing that you pointed out to me, you're like, Matt, my boobs.
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Have you ever thought about student stand-up? You'd be pretty good. No. I would go to your show.
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I'd be in the front row.
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Abby, if you actually want to do stand-up, people would actually come. I'm not funny. I'll be your promoter. I'll promote it.
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no but female specifically well because because comedians right like you have to dance across the line that's there's like a very gray area right and it's more okay for men to be like crude men can get away with that stuff more than women typically it's like it's like how a man can get away with sleeping around like a dude could sleep with 50 different women and you're like well that's just a guy but a woman who sleeps with 50 different men it's like oh they're which is which is ridiculous right that's ridiculous but hey we're working on that and we're trying to call out that bs
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that's so i can't believe i just figured it out like you just explained why it makes me so mad though when people like call a woman a slut or something i get infuriated because i'm like i know you talk about it a lot that doesn't exist for men i know it doesn't like why are you demonizing this person for for that when it that doesn't exist for like guys don't get in trouble for that
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering your HOTTEST questions for our 100th EPISODE
Wait, let's go.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering your HOTTEST questions for our 100th EPISODE
I'll go. I love Vegas.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering your HOTTEST questions for our 100th EPISODE
Well, probably. Wait, actually? Nate has his own podcast. He's too big. So maybe he'd want to come on. Yeah, he is like huge. We went to see his show in Phoenix and there was like 20,000 people there.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering your HOTTEST questions for our 100th EPISODE
So I think it was clear from that that Abby already has baby fever. I asked ChatGPT, is there a benefit seeing your wife shower every day?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering your HOTTEST questions for our 100th EPISODE
I know. Like the host. That's insane.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering your HOTTEST questions for our 100th EPISODE
Yeah, you go ahead and start us off, babe.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering your HOTTEST questions for our 100th EPISODE
Yeah, I taught you how to snowboard, which I mean, that wasn't the first time you snowboarded. You refreshed me. But you did pretty good. Like you actually went down some blues.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering your HOTTEST questions for our 100th EPISODE
Yeah, you did some blue, the blue squares.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering your HOTTEST questions for our 100th EPISODE
Yeah, you were great.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering your HOTTEST questions for our 100th EPISODE
veneers i had temps on over the holidays and then i got my like actual teeth um the conclusion is best decision ever i love having these what's crazy to me is with the nature i still just like stare at them i like the way they look that's awesome no that's the most important thing like you being happy with it and you just like doing obviously like people should do what makes them happy to an extent right like if it makes you happy to murder people everybody
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering your HOTTEST questions for our 100th EPISODE
Your hair looks really good, by the way. Thank you. I like it. You just got it all done up.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering your HOTTEST questions for our 100th EPISODE
Okay. Like people should do what makes them happy. But obviously, like if it makes you happy to murder people, you know, that's not okay. Right.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering your HOTTEST questions for our 100th EPISODE
You know, that's not like we shouldn't be doing that. But you doing that for yourself.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering your HOTTEST questions for our 100th EPISODE
What is it?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering your HOTTEST questions for our 100th EPISODE
You guys do look, I actually have noticed that. I'm like, wow, I have the female version of Blake, which is crazy.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering your HOTTEST questions for our 100th EPISODE
It does weird me out. Sometimes I just try to like push it out of my brain.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering your HOTTEST questions for our 100th EPISODE
Never ask me that question again.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering your HOTTEST questions for our 100th EPISODE
The reason you and Blake look so much alike and why our boys look so much alike, it's the Biswell genealogy. It is strong. I have a picture on my phone of Griffin and Augie together when we took them to Disney. And it looks identical to a picture of your dad and his brother when they were kids. Really? They just have this certain look. Is it the nose? I don't know what it is. The cheeks?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering your HOTTEST questions for our 100th EPISODE
I think it's the cheeks. The cheeks are definitely part of it. Having fuller cheeks.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering your HOTTEST questions for our 100th EPISODE
But it's so crazy to be like, oh my gosh, you can clearly see that our boys look so similar to your dad and his brother. Which is wild.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering your HOTTEST questions for our 100th EPISODE
I think, and you know, they're going to change as they get older. Like, I used to look a lot like my mom and now people, I think, say I look more like my dad. Really?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering your HOTTEST questions for our 100th EPISODE
So it'll be interesting to see once the boys are all grown up, will they look more like you? More like me? I don't know. But right now, they look so much like you. They're like little Abby's walking around. It's so cute.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering your HOTTEST questions for our 100th EPISODE
Oh, my gosh.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering your HOTTEST questions for our 100th EPISODE
I know. We did have them on twice. The first time was for just like a genuine, fun, like regular episode.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering your HOTTEST questions for our 100th EPISODE
Yeah, and the second time having Kay and Tay on was when they were, you know, getting some hate online, which I always hate. I hate it whenever creators of any kind get any sort of like negativity because it's just. Totally.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering your HOTTEST questions for our 100th EPISODE
it just sucks like you just feel bad for them like no matter what like even if they actually did something wrong you know like i still feel bad for them because people it's so easy to be like oh you don't yeah just like brush that brush the comments aside whatever until you're actually in the hot seat and then you're like this sucks like this freaking sucks you know yeah
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering your HOTTEST questions for our 100th EPISODE
A man was saying that?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering your HOTTEST questions for our 100th EPISODE
I remember I was so, can I be honest? I was so nervous for that interview when we were interviewing K and T. I just wanted to do like, I wanted to be like kind and cordial and like consider it to them as friends because we'd had them on the show before.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering your HOTTEST questions for our 100th EPISODE
Of course, of course. But then like you also, I felt this like obligation of trying to get all the facts straight when we were, you know, helping them tell their story, right? Because they wanted to tell their story on our show that way to get clear the air about the hate they were getting and all that. So I was trying to, we were trying to be like, you know, official interviewers.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering your HOTTEST questions for our 100th EPISODE
But now I look back and I'm like, do I regret that? Like, should we, maybe we should have like not taken the stance as much of being like
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering your HOTTEST questions for our 100th EPISODE
straight up interviewers and and instead just been more of ourselves I guess because I'm not like it's not like I work for the freaking news you know like you don't work for the news we're just we're just like this a couple that lives in Arizona you know am I thinking am I overthinking this yeah okay I'm overthinking it's okay uh we went to New York and
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering your HOTTEST questions for our 100th EPISODE
Who are these men watching your videos?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering your HOTTEST questions for our 100th EPISODE
That was an amazing trip.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering your HOTTEST questions for our 100th EPISODE
It just was very magical.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
Was it the colite that you had to have?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
That's pretty invasive, too, right?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
One time they had me come into the operating room during an endoscopy, which is, I think, through the mouth. And it was just, like, awkward to see. I was like, no, no, no, no.
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Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
But still 19 though. That's so cute. That's so sweet.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
Was it scary? Yeah. It's just like you see your wife just like this, and there's a tube. They're basically just sending a camera down your... Yeah.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
I remember hearing about a story of a guy who woke up during a surgery and he felt everything. But he couldn't talk or something.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
Yeah, he sued the hospital. And so when you said that, I immediately jumped to that conclusion of, oh, my gosh, that's my worst nightmare.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
I don't remember that part.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
You felt this weird pain in your shoulder, right? Did your shoulder hurt? No.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
Maybe that's the drugs again.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
They took her into, I think, we were in a room.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
And then they took her in a room, and then they did it, and then they brought her in.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
Were you, like, super cold after you gave birth to? Uh.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
She was, like, shivering.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
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No, oh my gosh. What our wives go through is incredible for our children.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
Water backs. Yeah, water on the back. Like a human camel and the other one can't go.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
So when you're on tour, were you, were you calling her every day? Was this, did this cleanliness continue on? At the beginning, you can't call every day.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
I found that out pretty early on.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
So yes, every other day I think was our, our limit.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
that is there so that i can pop in and out whenever i need to wow yeah what about you guys what's yours it's nothing like that pretty casual yeah ours is a lot more casual we we kind of we're more in the lifestyle content yeah so we're kind of just like showing our life and having candid fun conversations with people like you guys i'm so curious though Wait, 20 videos a month.
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Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
There must then be a whole entire production team, a crew, a set of some sort. Do you have multiple sets that you're filming inside? How do you manage all that?
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Because of that, I smell. And so I've been using the Harry's body wash. This stuff smells incredible. There's nothing better than body wash that just smells like a dream. I mean, this is... Is that one your favorite?
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Did I just sniff my microphone? Who was the visionary behind all of this?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
It's crazy that in 2025, there's people like you guys with a full-on media company on YouTube. I don't think anybody saw that coming 15, 10 years ago. That was never really a thing. Yeah, we did not.
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Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
I'll tell you that much.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
When did you guys realize that that was a reality for you, that building out this media company for YouTube made sense? How long ago?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
Am I pronouncing that right? Is it Austin-ee or Austin-ee?
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Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
With an M. Oh, with an M. Yeah. Can you describe what that is to somebody who has no idea what that word means?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
I can say it pretty simple if you want. Yeah. So basically, you lose the function to go to the bathroom. Okay. And it's just right here.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
You have to change out the solid bag.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
Holy moly. Science is awesome.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
And that's why you were saying you felt like you couldn't eat out at one point because of...
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
So yeah, she would basically, we would go to like a restaurant or anything like that and the first thing we both, okay, bathroom's over here or right here because she would have to go to the bathroom about 30 times a day.
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Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
So we have to like kind of plan out, okay, here's our every situation. Like right now we know where the bathroom's at in this room. It's right back here. But like, but like that's, that's kind of the, the, how we had to train ourselves and always have like an exit plan.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
How dope is it, though, that you went through all that and then were able to start this company?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
You didn't go, oh, why me? Like, this is so hard. You kind of just said, hey, I'm going to I'm going to push through this and I'm going to look at this differently. Yeah, that's really cool.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
Well, I think at some point you're probably thinking, like, why me?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
When did you get married? How much time went between you guys meeting at 19?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
Flu season for us was... But the positives, though, are being in the car as a family, and you look back, and you see our kids holding hands.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
Or our two-year-old's eating Cheez-Its and he hands a Cheez-It to his little brother.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
I do, I do. I think, uh,
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
Always looking out for his brother.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
Just seeing your kids be friends. And, yeah, bond is the sweetest thing. It just melts your heart. It just, ugh.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
And then 12 years before we got married.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
And so... Yeah, the first two tries.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
Yeah, so basically they put in two eggs, both girls, and the strongest eggs that we had. And then unfortunately just... It didn't work. Yeah, we weren't planned out, I think, on that. And then the second miscarriage hit us like a week. What was it?
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Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
Also kind of in denial that we were.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
I remember hearing – didn't your sister or somebody say to you at one point, I'll be a surrogate for you?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
How selfless. I know. Was that ever an idea of going with a family member to be the surrogate?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
Like, and what other circumstance is a parent, you know, away from their child for that long? I mean, that must be scary. Even if it's someone that you really do trust and love and, you know, checks all the boxes that, I can't imagine what that must be like to know that your baby is growing in someone else's body. That must be like a weird.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
Okay, I'm so dumb. Is that why you named your company Molo? Is that because of the Molo?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
Are you willing to take a test today?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
We're about to find out if Matt and Abby are pregnant.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
You're going to take a pregnancy test right now? Let's do it.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
We're obviously going to go pee mid-podcast on a stick.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
I guess we'll do that. Okay, yeah. Tell us about this. She's going to go pee in a cup over there.
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Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
Wait, wait, wait. The ovulation is too personal. Pregnancy? No. Everyone should know.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
I think we're in the clear. This honestly could be.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
But at the same time, though, we had an unplanned pregnancy.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
And it was the best thing ever. So, yeah, I don't know. I mean, hey, regardless of what happens, it's going to be okay. Okay.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
And we're not mic'd up in the bathroom right now, right?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
Yeah, we're not mic'd up in the bathroom. Okay. Okay, tell me more about Molo. How did you come up with this idea?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
Yeah, but before she did, it was a little bit of a shock because it was like a lot of these giant pills.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
no way that's wonderful where the pills i was taking it was two to three hundred dollars a month oh my goodness yeah because you're you're buying all the different how are you able so if you were getting results two to three hundred dollars a month you already know the results i haven't looked okay oh okay abby's got the pregnancy test oh my god i'm gonna read it i am nervous
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
My question though is like how are you able to get the cost down? That's like a huge taking $300 worth of pills a month and getting your cost down to 30. How are you able to do that?
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Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
Yeah, we went through a few different routes. We were talking about doing pills at one point, and then we switched over to gummies. But we found out that the best intake was through a powder. Okay.
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Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
The best absorption into your body. And so this formula –
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Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
is um like when we broke down with all the manufacturers we just we we wanted to make sure that that we cared less about our margins being super high on this and more about it being affordable to a little bit more of a mass audience very cool and what what added benefit does this have on top of say a typical prenatal because i know those have i mean abby's taken those before i think a lot of people know what a prenatal vitamin is but what's the like the additional um
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Sorry, I'm so curious. I'm a nerd. I'm like, I might be asking too many questions. I think it's important.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
And so it's like, you have to look and see what, every prenatal is going to be different. So this is optimized to help. All three of these have different ingredients, but you can take them all at the same time as well. To say like, oh, this is different than this one. It's kind of hard to say because they're all a little bit different. This one specifically is optimized for pregnancy.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
Speaking of pregnancy.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
This is 99% accurate, too. This is like, whatever this says...
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
Wait, so I'm looking. What am I looking for? Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. Wait, this is wet.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's very clear. It's very clear.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
I mean, it could be a lot of things here. Let's pull the strip out, guys. So if they're... Wait, control line? He really is worried, I feel like. Can you just read it for me? It's a photo.
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Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
Ladies and gentlemen, we're about to find out if Matt and Abby are pregnant.
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Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
We're negative, yeah, we're negative.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
Hold up, this is what it looks like, but people can't even see it.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
Did you not put it in the cup?
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Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
Oh, you didn't do it right? I didn't do it right.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
Okay, we'll have to retest, but it looks like Abby did the test process wrong. She didn't read the instructions.
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Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
We're hoping to have some. That would have been crazy. That's going to be like your teaser at the beginning of the video.
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Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
Okay. Now we have pregnancy tests for when we do that.
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Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
Well, this was great. You guys are wonderful. I can't wait for August.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
Okay, can we plan a play date after that? Please.
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Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
And a proper pregnancy test.
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Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
Matt and Rebecca, welcome to Unplanned.
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What are those independent things that you still, you know, keep time for on your own?
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You guys are a power couple. You both have accomplished so much on YouTube. Your viewership, your subscriber count, it's incredible. I mean, the views are in the billions. The numbers are just like even too hard to fathom. But my question is, how did this relationship, how did this whole empire come to be in the very beginning? Okay.
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If we're in the hospital, if she's in the hospital, they're constantly monitoring.
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Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
That has to be because you run though as well. I've heard runners have really low heart rates, right?
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Does that mean you're going to live to like 120? Probably.
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I feel like that's a sign of a healthy person.
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Yeah, she's 81, but she's with it.
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Rebecca was a professional cheerleader in the Bay Area and I was in a boy band and we were shooting a music video for TRL and she was one of the five cheerleaders casted for the video.
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Like three to four times a week I'll hit the run with her. But then like it's usually just during football season is when I'm kind of like just obsessing over like Football stats and my team. Right now, it's basketball playoffs. Who are your teams? Broncos.
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The second miscarriage hit us like a week, week and a half.
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Denver Broncos, mainly. Is it all Denver teams, I'm guessing? I like... Nuggets? Do you like the Denver Nuggets? I don't know. I never got into the Nuggets. What? I lived there because it was never like... I don't know. Nobody really... It was all about the Broncos. Do you know about their mascot? How their mascot does the craziest half-time shows and tricks?
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Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
I'm pretty sure that the Denver Nuggets mascot is the highest paid mascot in all of the NBA. It's something crazy, like $600,000 a year this mascot gets paid to do half-court shots.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
you probably break out no yeah they deserve to be compensated i agree i'm are you still into boy bands uh i enjoy pop music okay yeah i'm not like out there searching for boy bands are you like me though where sometimes your music genres are the things that like 16 year old girls are listening to like is it like that you're you're listening to a lot of one direction you know you listen to one direction i yeah honestly they they're great
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Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
Yeah, I don't know. I mean, Harry Styles puts out some great music.
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Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
Who's your artist right now? I've been, like, really getting into Dan and Shay. Oh, love them. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, their stuff's great. I used to be Roscoe Flats was, like, my number one before that. Really? But, yeah, I feel like Dan and Shay has kind of taken over right now.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
You guys are parents now. You've been parents now for, what, over two years?
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Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
I didn't realize that she was older than Griffin. That's wonderful.
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Why I chose surrogacy w/ Rebecca Zamolo
Yeah, Abby and I were watching a video that you posted four years ago about the wild journey that you guys have been through coming into parenthood, and Abby was crying watching this video. It was very, very emotional.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
abby and i are sleeping in separate beds does this mean that you're separating from me what let's take that out i love being married i want to die in that house here you are talking about death and you always get on me about talking about death you talked about in the context of like dying with me still here that's probably gonna happen like statistically that's gonna happen loneliness as an adult it is an epidemic in our society everything was handed to us in college but then we leave and we're like lonelier than we've ever been in our entire lives
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Yeah. Can we just, like, dude, we should, like, throw up a picture. Throw up a picture of us, like, when we first started dating. We were children, dude.
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I don't know.
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Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
Yeah, it's spooky. Like, you go out there in our backyard right now because it's all dirt. I feel like there's valley people out there. No, there's still, like, nails and stuff in the dirt. Yeah, well, because it's a new build. Yeah, because our house is a new build, so we just have to be careful. But we're getting it done. I think we're going to put in a pool.
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I know.
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Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
Yeah, we've got paper blinds up everywhere. But, you know, the house is coming together, though.
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Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
yeah i i think abby said this before abby goes i want to die in this i do i want to die in that house do you realize how morbid that sounds you know if you only think of it that way like i want to live a long full happy life but just have my roots right there in that house here you are talking about death and you always get on me about talking about death
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Oh, that's probably going to happen. Like statistically, that's what's going to happen. That's why I've been trying to run more. Did you know that I've been like running a lot more?
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We were children.
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Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
I guys, I've been running like five and a half miles.
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at once and i run and it's such a new thing for me that it's kind of hilarious i get like a a new record every time i go running because my my phone's like hey you just set a running record and i'm like no way for the first yeah and like one time i set a 5k record i set a fastest mile record and then i set the longest run record all in the same run because i just never run
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So, yeah, but it's been good though. Cause I, I've been using AI like crazy. I love chat to BT. I use chat to BT every day. It's my, it's my most used, used app on my phone. And I was asking AI like, Hey, both my grandpa's died in the early seventies. How do I live to my nineties? And it said, well, your heart health is one of the most important things. And I'm like, okay, bet.
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I mean, you still got chubby cheeks. They're still chubby. They're cute, though. I like them. They're cute.
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Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
How do I get better heart health? And it said cardiovascular activity. And one of those activities is running. So I've been trying to get my 150 minutes in per week. And then there's a certain threshold too with where I need my heart rate to get up to.
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I'm a 26-year-old guy, so my heart rate is supposed to be between 150 and 170 when I run.
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Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
That's like high intensity.
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Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
What?
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You're like a little hamster. You're like a little squirrel. You're a bunny.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
That spooks me out that your heart rate gets that high.
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Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
What's your resting heart rate?
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Yeah.
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Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
Because my resting heart rate, like right now it's, oh, it's 94. Why is my heart rate 94?
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that's crazy i love having a smart watch by the way i love like being able to track my sleep my heart my heart rate everything you should get your your garment for years um no wait my resting my seven day average is 60 i feel like that's really good yeah what's your seven day average um seven day average is go to your heart um you tell me i don't even know how to look for that to be honest turn your wrist
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You're cute. I really like you.
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I don't know why my heart rate is at a 98 right now.
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I guess I am a little bit.
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Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
54!
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I think you're beautiful. How do you feel about what I just launched a couple of days ago?
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Oh, good. Hey, I have a decent heart rate, you guys. It did tell me that my biological age decreased to like 22.
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My watch told me that.
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Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
So maybe I'm actually going to be able to live to 95 like my great-grandpa. Because, yeah, both my grandpas died in their early 70s. My great-grandpa lived to be 95. So that's the goal. I want to be around to see our grandkids grow up, our great-grandkids. How sick would it be to meet your great-great-grandkids? How sick would that be?
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Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
You were telling me about that.
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I don't know. Did you think to ask me about this before you planned this party, babe?
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I am stoked. I think it'll be fun.
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I love that you love to host people and have a good time.
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Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
Why do you have mixed feelings?
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You're so good at making a house at home, Abby.
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Put your feet over my feet.
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Yeah, you got to just have your friends over and not give a frick if your house looks like crap.
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We just had some friends over yesterday. Actually, Devin and Hunter, if you guys know that couple.
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I think we had position cards out on our countertop.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
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Anyway, they came over to our house, and it was a mess. And it was like, you know what? We don't really care. It was like, you guys can, you know, just enjoy it. Who cares? Whatever.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
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You are actually not like you act like our house is messy all the time, but I feel like it's, no, it's really not. I feel like it's fairly clean.
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Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
Yeah.
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Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
You're a good host. Abby's been hosting book clubs at our house.
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Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
You have a good community going. I'm so thankful. I've been inspired. I'm like, Abby has so many friends. Maybe I should make more friends too. Abby goes to the gym all the time. Maybe I should take good care of myself too. It's like that thing. My mom said, choose your friends wisely for soon you will see that who you are with is who you will be.
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We've been doing this show for two years now, babe.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
I chose my wife wisely and now you're influencing me for the better.
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that's so good i'm really glad to hear that you influenced me for the bedroom a lot of ways you're my best friend thanks babe didn't you have your book club read a book where there was like a sex scene every other page and then no i did not and everyone rated it a bad it was not no no no no that's not true do you have any hot takes on that like do you think that's like what what do you it's called smut smut yeah what is that smut is like spice scenes in books is this something that you learned on book talk probably
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Wait, okay. Hold up though.
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But you don't have TikTok. So how are you learning about book talk?
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Oh, you're on YouTube book stuff.
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Okay. Sorry. Explain it to me. Smut. What is this?
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I know. Well, I think that's the funny thing is you think of a podcast, you're like, I have to talk for an hour. That's so easy. You do a podcast and you're like, oh, if you want to do it well, there's a lot that goes into it. Anyway, I... So I'm like, man, will I ever see my husband again? Oh, you're worried that I'm going to just never spend time with you anymore.
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What are people's qualms though with reading intimate books? Because doesn't that just make you want to explore with your spouse?
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Oh, it just makes them feel uncomfy.
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Okay. That's fair.
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You know what is so interesting?
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Okay. What is so interesting though is how uptight America is now.
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about sex no man i don't like it though it's which is fine like you don't you don't have to like it but it's it's so i'd rather read about thrillers so i was talking to my friend garrett he's traveled the world with his family their youtube channel is called the buckless family and something he was telling me was by traveling the world he's learned a lot about how different cultures view intimacy and you know relationships marriage all that and he was telling me about how when cinematographers and you know editors work on project for like natural national geographic
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filming animals in the wild, right? So they're seeing animals eat other animals, mate with each other. Do you know what he told me that they do?
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Okay, pretend this is the first time.
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Yeah, we actually have conversations.
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Okay, but pretend you're not on the toilet. Pretend you're hearing this for the first time.
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What they do is they cut out all the sex scenes for American...
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um audiences because americans are so taboo when it comes to sex and then they keep all the violence in but then for european audiences they keep all the the mating and sex scenes of the animals but cut out all the violence because europeans are like whoa violence like that's not okay it's just so interesting how different the cultures are because like growing up
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When I was a kid, if there was ever an intimate scene in a movie, my mom would be like, skip it, skip it, skip it, which is fine. I'm not saying that's the way she chose to raise me. It's weird how Americans are like, oh, violence is chill, but oh, intimacy, not okay. And Europe is completely different, completely opposite.
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You think so?
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But it's just, it's just not talked about in our culture when that's literally how everyone got here. Like your parents had to do something to make you be here and their parents had to do something to make them be here.
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I don't know how I feel about all that. And I think it really leads... This is my theory. I could be completely wrong. This is me just using my... An educated guess. But because America... People that came to America were fleeing religious... Fleeing for religious freedom from Europe.
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And we had a very Puritan, you know, very, you know, extremely strict religious, you know, society back in like the 1700s. I think those ideas still affect...
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our culture today to where I don't know though to where we're very different than Europe because in Europe they're like oh the body is beautiful like we can celebrate the human body I see that you know they're all like oh the renaissance and they have like naked statues of like men and women up in Europe but here we're like oh like that is I feel like we're far from Puritan nowadays though we are we are but still the intimacy stuff is taboo when it's like
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Because you're... Oh, wait, I'm so sorry. I'm going to spend a lot of time with you. Don't you worry. Don't you worry.
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That's just kind of, it's like part of the circle of life, you know? It's like part of the, you know, everybody mates. Every single animal does. I don't know why I'm talking about this right now.
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Yeah, and violence is normal too. But I'm like, maybe Europe and the Americas, I guess North America, can learn from each other and be like, hey, maybe we recognize that both of these things exist.
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So anyway, so back to your smut. Let's talk about smut though.
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You like a little bit of smut?
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Why a little bit?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it just makes you think about your husband?
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No. Okay. So I realized this, you guys, I call this, there's a concept that I like to refer to as creator hell. So it's when you're a new creator and you do literally everything yourself. Cause it's almost like you're a, it's almost like you're a small business owner. Like say you open a taco stand and you are the sole owner.
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Okay, wait. So this is the smut level. It's like one through 10 and it's just like little jalapeno peppers?
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That seems extremely low to me.
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Oh, yeah.
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See, some couples are into that stuff, man.
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Wait, this was the other thing I wanted to say. Last thing I wanted to say about intimacy across the world. Because I just went on this trip with a bunch of different creators. It was a bunch of dads and we just went surfing in Nicaragua. But some of these people on this trip went on missions in other countries. Yeah. And again, with how uptight America is about...
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and people seeing each other's bodies, just like modesty. Like these missionary, like these people, they're LDS, so they went on a mission for two years. They were telling me how when they were just serving a mission in Latin America, women would just, like, take their top off, be completely topless, and then have a baby, like, pop on their boob. Yeah.
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So you have to clean everything and cook everything and do all the branding and do all the marketing. Like you are the entire team and, Being a creator is the same way. Like when you start off making content, you are the analyst, you are the marketer, you are the on-camera person. So where the heck was I going with that?
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And that was just, like, really normal there.
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Which is, like, it kind of makes you rethink, like, why is that? Why do we make that such a weird thing here? You know? Why do we make that weird?
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And as a dude, I've never worn a shirt. I literally walk around shirtless all the time.
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Yeah. And I'm not, I'm not saying that I want you to walk around like that, but I'm just saying like the fact.
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No, it is.
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I'm pretty sure it is.
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Which is what it's crazy though. Like it's crazy that we like, why are we.
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I think people have just got a little too uptight, you know?
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Nothing wrong with that at all.
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Yeah, you are. Yeah. And there's, and there's, again, there's nothing wrong with that, but it's just, it's like why hearing those stories made me think, why is our culture so vastly different? And it's okay for cultures to be different, right? Like we don't have to, just because in Latin America, they do things differently than we do in North America does not mean that we need to change.
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but but it's good to have that perspective that like yes this is not the only way to do things yes i think i think it's really important to learn from other fields of thought yes i would agree so um cool well i was today years old and i learned about smut yeah i would say i like a two maybe a three can you teach me a little bit more about book talk and and the whole world of books i can give you some lingo okay yeah teach me um so tbr do you know what that is
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Absolutely no idea.
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Okay.
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Oh yeah. You don't like that.
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Yeah.
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That's good.
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Yeah.
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Oh, the reason I'm saying all that is because I'm saying screw you to that whole idea of doing everything myself. And I have someone helping me edit the show. I have someone helping me produce the show. So it's not complete. Okay, let me be honest. I'm still doing a ton of stuff myself.
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Yeah.
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Down to Frick.
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Down to Frick. I'm down to Frick today.
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After this podcast.
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Are you down to Frick after this podcast?
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It's kind of hot.
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Doesn't that kind of, doesn't like when you see DTF in your messages from your husband, aren't you like.
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do it now for it means did not finish like so if you start a book and you did not finish it oh got it for like because you did not like it do you think i'm funny i think you're hilarious actually yeah have i gotten funnier i think you're funnier when you're not trying to be funny that's right i think you're right about that um i found that i'm actually funnier when i make fun of myself because i i'm actually i don't want you to be self-deprecating i want you to be i think self-deprecating humor is hilarious though i think it's one of the best forms of humor
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Yeah, I'm working on it.
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I think marrying into your family has helped me understand comedy more because your family is sarcastic. All that went over my head as a child.
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Because my mother, she could not be further from sarcasm.
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And she's a sweet woman, you know, and she's just in her own world and she, she'll probably never understand sarcasm ever. And that's okay.
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But, but understanding sarcasm has helped me like see the world in color now, you know?
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I did. I really did.
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There is. Yeah. You can be too sarcastic to a point of being mean.
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Yeah.
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Which why do you do? You read some crappy books though.
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Or like if you're like when you scroll on social media, you will watch everything from start to finish no matter what.
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Why?
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You're hilarious.
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It's actually pretty impressive. You've, you've read like 20 books since I started the Harry Potter series. I'm still in book number four. I started Harry Potter back in like, I think I started Harry Potter back in July.
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Maybe I need to take a little break from it.
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Yeah. I'm like halfway through book number four.
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Yeah. No, that's totally.
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I love that you have such a tight community of gal pals now.
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You seem so much happier. Yeah.
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Because it's like I can be in person with you, but my brain is thinking about all the stuff I have to do. I've already been seeing that one.
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I think that's a mistake that I've made in marriage is expecting you to be everything. And I like I can be very content alone. Like there's part of me that really enjoys creativity. And so I can like create art all by myself.
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But, you know, then if I'm alone too long, if I hyper-focus on a creative task and then I'm alone too long, then I feel this desperate need to just connect with other human beings.
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Yes, yes.
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Like you want real estate in my brain.
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We didn't have that in Hawaii.
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I want real. Yeah. I like that. I want, I want real estate in your brain too.
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It's extremely embarrassing.
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It was embarrassing for me. Like, I feel like I'm finally at a mature enough spot and I'm not trying to act like I've got everything figured out now, but I'm mature enough to be like, yeah, I haven't been good at making friends. Oh, okay. Not making. I'm actually very good at making friends. I'm very bad at keeping friends because I am out of sight, out of mind. If I'm not seeing you every day.
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Okay.
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I think it's an ADHD thing too. Like I, it doesn't mean that I don't care about them, but if I'm not seeing you every single day, I kind of forget about you. And that's also why I forget to call home to my parents. Like I feel bad, but I do.
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And it doesn't mean that I don't love my parents, but it's like, I need to see you every day in order to remember to like talk and check in on you and see how you're doing. So it's almost like I've learned when it
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you have to make a change in yourself first which is so hard especially when you're coming from a place like we did where everything was handed to us in college like we we came to the school nobody had friends already everyone was new to making friends and we got together and we got plugged into a community that made it really easy to make friends in that community we were in dorms where it was easy to make friends like everything was just kind of handed to us and it was almost like the school
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Welcome back to the Unplanned Podcast, everybody. Thank you for being here. How are you feeling right now? What?
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So, I mean, if you guys haven't seen yet, I went ahead and I launched a new podcast. It's called The Night Shift or actually, no, I think I changed it to Night Shift just to be like cooler because it sounds like way cooler. It's called Night Shift with Matt Howard.
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knew that if they make making friends fun and easy and quick people won't drop out people won't drop out and it makes the school money which is actually really smart that colleges do that so well i think it's also just for the general well-being oh of course but i but yeah but then but then we leave and we're like we are lonelier than we've ever been in our entire lives
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I feel like this podcast quickly turned into making friends as an adult.
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Navigating loneliness as an adult. And I feel like we should really dive into this because it is an epidemic in our society. I really think it is. I find myself... going to listen to other people's podcasts to feel like I'm their friend, which I love podcasts. I feel like listening to podcasts is a much healthier form of social media than TikTok or Instagram Reels.
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and the whole idea is is really um i was talking to my sister-in-law's dad who's been in the radio business for 50 years and i was like holy crap you've done radio for 50 years he's like yeah you know i i love doing it i'm like wait so you don't have to do this anymore to pay your bills he's like oh no i've we're good like we've got enough savings but i just i do this because it's fun for me and it kind of like something clicked there where i was like wait a second
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But still though, it's not a substitute for real life friends. Not even close. Not even close. And so I love that we're talking about this because... for myself included, like we need to be making ourselves aware of, hey, reaching out to people to hang out should be a weekly thing that we do, right? Because you can't expect, you cannot expect other people to always invite you.
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You cannot expect other people to always be the one to coordinate. But if you want to have friends and if you want to have a good community, you have to make some sort of change in yourself, which sucks. Like it's hard.
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And you're so good at that, by the way.
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I... No, you are. You make meals for other people. You actually... Yeah, making meals is like your love language and you're good at it and you make amazing food. And so you've always been good about doing that. Even in Hawaii, you would do that for like friends of ours at the gym. Now, we didn't have the deep community that we have. Like you have deep community.
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I'm still working on forming my deep community. I have more friends now than I have had in the past four years. Like it's the... Stuff is looking up for me. I literally, this is embarrassing. I'll expose myself. I literally have a note in my phone that says friends and I write down the names. I write down their names though because I love meeting new people.
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I kind of get this high off of meeting new people and learning from them and it just scratches this creative itch. Probably why I like podcasting so much. But because I need to remind myself to follow up, schedule hangouts, all those things, I Because I can't expect other people to do that for me.
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I've been writing down the names of the people that I want to be intentional with about calling, FaceTiming, texting, seeing if they want to hang out in person, stuff like that. Because I don't want to fall into the slump I did before where I don't have friends. And it's depressing. And I can't expect you to fill that void for me.
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And she just knew. She just knew the date and she reached out because it was the date.
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See, I wish I was... I suck at dates. I should... I suck at dates, too.
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I'm horrible with birthdays.
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I don't see myself doing music forever. I don't see myself doing TikTok forever, but I can see myself literally podcasting and interviewing people when I'm 80 years old because I genuinely love doing this so much. So I'm very excited. I'm so excited to see where that show takes me and takes us. And yeah, it's going to be a really fun time.
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I've found, and look, I'm giving advice here, but you're the one who's way better at making friends than me. So let me just make that clear. You're kind of the expert here. But at least for me, I've found that hanging with people that are in a similar stage of life to you is the move.
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Because I can schedule a hangout with some other dads on like a Saturday at like 3 o'clock and we'll go to the park.
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Because all of our kids can play together and go on the swing and the slide and all that. And us dads can just socialize and chat.
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um so i like that or just like taking the kids to the park and like talking to other adults at the park and i don't it's not like i have to be like super close friends with those people but it's fun just to be out of the house and have a conversation with another adult human um that doesn't poop their pants you know yeah so that's been i've found that to be super helpful yeah and people often dm me they're like how do you do this and like i feel like i explain like
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your neighbors honestly let's not forget about neighbors yeah i actually want to be better about reaching out to our neighbors because we had some neighbors that like baked us bread baked us cookies gave us gifts and i never did anything for them back which i feel bad about like now that i'm saying that it was nice because we moved in and we did yeah we did move in but we have some really great neighbors like our our next door neighbors wrote us like a letter about how they wanted to form a relationship to be like you know close friends for a long time and they just seem like really genuine nice people you
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Yeah, I'm so thankful for that. I'm very thankful for that.
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But how cool is it that when our kid gets something as simple as a fever, that all your mom's friends reach out about like, oh, I'm making you this food and I'm dropping off these lollipops that kids can suck on to help with. They have zinc in them and they help them to fight off sickness. It's just so thoughtful that... All those people did that.
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But I think something that I'm going to try to commit to being better about this year is not having surface level relationships. Because I feel like I'm really good at having a lot. You're so friendly. at having a lot of surface-level relationships.
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And it's better, I think, to just have, like, three people that you talk to every day and that you're super tight with than to have 30 people that you have, like, kind of, you know, casual.
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You chat every once in a while. Like, that isn't deep. And you can't – when you're going through a really hard time, you can't really open up to people like that because they're going to be like, whoa, we're just kind of casual friends, dude, and now you're, like, you're trauma-dumping on me right now, you know?
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So –
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We're such a big community. So apparently now we're starting a preschool. Apparently that's happening.
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What? What? No, the unplanned podcast is here to stay.
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I think you would actually be really good at that.
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I think you'd do a great job. How long would that take though out of the day?
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Oh, yeah. You could knock that out. You could do that. I mean, they're little. Would that be after, like what time of day would you? 10 to noon. 10 to noon. Yeah, go for it.
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Are you going to get these kids AI?
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Okay, One Smart Cookie. Tell me more.
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Gigi would be great. So I feel like she would hook you up with all the supplies.
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And your mom has all those books left over from when she was a teacher.
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You're really good at it too.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's cold out today, so every time I touch a microphone or the camera, we get shocked. It's been so frustrating.
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So question for you. How was it single parenting with me gone Monday through Friday in Nicaragua?
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Yeah, I bet.
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That's amazing. So you just felt like a super powered, like you felt like a super mom.
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Was it hard to cook and clean and change the poopy diapers?
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You just kept it kind of simple?
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Do you do any trips to Chick-fil-A and let them play at the play place? I feel like that's our go-to. I didn't. Whenever we're really tired, Chick-fil-A play place is the move.
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Why are those not more of a thing? I feel like not every McDonald's has a play place.
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Okay, that's true.
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I mean, that's why our kids keep getting sick so much.
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We should stop taking them to the Chick-fil-A play place.
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Also, I think our kids just, like, I've caught our youngest, like, licking the floor before. You know, you just have to be careful. Like, they see, like, an M&M on the floor and, like, oh, this looks delicious.
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And it's okay. They're learning.
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Kids crack. Honestly, kids are so funny.
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They crack me up. Just like watching little kids. It doesn't even have to be our own kids. They're just so freaking funny.
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You're so good at being a mom. I had no doubt that while I was gone in Nicaragua, a quarter of the way across the planet, that you were going to be just fine. And you were.
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Did anything crazy happen, though, while I was gone? Any May Day issues? Yeah, several May Days. Wait, really? Several May Days?
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Enlighten me. What happened while I was gone?
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And that... Like when he says that, you can't even tell him no.
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Pfft.
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You don't like it?
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He's a big kid now.
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Sleeping alone?
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Did hanging out with your mom friends and being with other people help make it more manageable?
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You do. I'm so sorry.
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I thought it was funny that when I came home, you weren't able to pick me up from the airport because you were having book club.
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Don't be sorry. I thought that was hilarious.
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But my favorite thing, though, is when I came home, it gave me flashbacks to when we were dating in high school.
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That was a long time.
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I got all giddy because I forget, like, Abby, you're a little lady. What do you mean? You're so cute. Like, holding you, I was like, this girl is so fragile. Like, you're so tiny. And it just kind of felt, I felt like I was back in high school again, you know, seeing you after not seeing you for two weeks. Because that's what used to happen. I would go a long time without seeing you.
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And then when I'd reunite with you, it was just like...
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all these all this dopamine all this serotonin just like this rush of feel-good chemicals because i was so happy to be back with you yeah i was so glad to have you back but then i felt really bad that i didn't pick you up that must be fun like if if your spouse travels for work i guess it's not the most fun that you don't see them that often but reuniting reuniting like that was always exciting then i was so excited like i haven't seen you in five days rather than like i haven't seen you and i was just like kiss attacking you on the couch with your friends all around us and they're like all right well we're gonna head out because
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I really felt like a teenager again.
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Yeah, I like that feeling. Now I'm like, maybe I need to take more trips so I can feel that feeling more. It felt so good.
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I was like, bro, I was gone for four and a half days, dude. Chill. We even FaceTimed. I'm like, I FaceTimed you while I was gone.
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He's in a deep mommy phase, though, right now. Like, deep, deep mommy phase. Yes. And even when he's sad and I help him in the night or in the morning, which I know you've been doing the most of that recently, but he always asks for you. He really likes you. And in the mornings, I woke up with him. He asks for you sometimes, too. Okay, that makes me feel better.
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But when I woke up with him yesterday, we were having such a good time, and then I think I mentioned your name, and then he was like... want mama. Like he forgot, he kind of forgot, like we were just having a good like dad and lad moment. And then once he remembered that you weren't around, then he was like, oh, want mama.
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How did it make you feel when I texted you though, while I was in Nicaragua, can we move to Maui?
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Hear me out.
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Did you tell the whole family that I told you that?
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Hear me out. The people that I was on this surf trip with were all so awesome.
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Yeah. And look, I guess part of me, half the guys on the surf trip all live on Maui. They have an existing community on Maui. They surf together every day at sunrise. And so we surf together on this trip every day at sunrise. And I was like, dude, if I could surf every day at sunrise with my friends, that to me is my dream life.
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That's true. I don't like waking up early. But so, yeah, I would surf like I would do sunset surf sessions in Hawaii. But, you know, it's just like there's something about surfing where you combine, which I feel like surfers are going to hate that I'm talking about this because surfers hate when new people take over the surf spots. Like surfers like having the spots themselves.
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Like if there's more than like three surfers at a surf break, it just it can quickly get overcrowded. So sorry if you're a surfer. I'm not going to shout out any surf spots, though. I'm going to keep that. private, but there's just something about being social with your friends out in nature, especially when the sun's rising or setting, it is beautiful in the ocean, stunning.
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And then you're doing an activity, like you're doing a sport. So you're like, your, your lungs are pumping, like you're getting that cardiovascular exercise. Like I was talking about earlier, it's just so healthy. And it just, it, I was on this, like this high the entire week. And like I'm,
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You and your brother used to like share a bed sometimes too.
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There's a few guys that while we were there, I think maybe had a couple beers here and there while we were hanging out, but I literally didn't drink anything. I was just eating healthy and just surfing every day with these guys, and it was an unreal experience. It was unreal. So I do want that, but it's a little tricky because in Arizona we don't have a beach. So I don't, you know, yeah.
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I don't know. I don't know. It's so tough because now we are finally getting community here and I'm like, oh.
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I know. Maybe we'll have to visit, but not for a week. Visit for an extended period of time. That would be awesome. Fair. Because I really do. I really enjoy the sport and it's really fun too. I've made all these connections with other people that like to surf, so it's fun that I have friends now that like to surf that I can go and do that sport with.
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I mean, it really was. I kind of, I got like, coming back from Nicaragua, I kind of got post-vacation blues a little bit.
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Because it was just, it was such a high.
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hours that sounds incredible i just want to sit off the plane and have nobody touch me or talk to me and all the dads all the dads on the strip were so good like garrett um from the bucket list family who organized this trip thing he said on the first night was my goal on this trip is that all of us husbands return to our wives and they go wow what happened on the surf trip to make them such incredible loving you have been a really good husband post surf trip
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Trying to set up all of our gear. I just kept getting zapped. So I feel like I've gotten tased multiple times today.
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Thank you. So it worked. So maybe this means I can do more surf trips?
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Maybe that's what I need. Maybe I just need like a quarterly surf trip.
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A quarterly surf trip to like, you know, somewhere tropical.
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Yeah.
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Thank you. What's weird, though, is I have all these... Yeah, you got attacked. Dude, I got attacked. There's a... If you guys see my arm, if you look at my arm, it's kind of gnarly. I don't know what that is on my arm, but I did get attacked. I'm not going to take my shirt off right now, but I have all these... I got all these bug bites on my chest. So I'm like, am I going to be OK?
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Like, I look like I have freckles all over my chest because I got I got bit up by mosquitoes. Apparently, some people do get malaria in Nicaragua. I don't think that's a very common thing, but it is sweet, though. Nicaragua is a developing country. And so because they love tourists coming to spend money and pour money into the economy, they're a huge fan of people traveling there.
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When, you know, in somewhere like Hawaii, they've had tourism as part of their economy for a very long time. And some people aren't the biggest fan of people traveling to Hawaii. But in somewhere like Nicaragua, they're like, no, come. We want you to travel. We want you to visit. And everyone was so, like all the locals were so nice.
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You know, every person that we ran into, whether it was on the beach or our taxi driver, you know, Mario, Ali, like they were all so, so kind. And it also helped me brush up on my Spanish.
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how much i could have been there listening to you yeah i my spanish does suck one time i had to tell someone i was like uh espanol un poco uh yo yo habla espanol un poquito wouldn't it be ablo ablo yeah see you should have been there with me you would have you would have helped me out i don't really know anything i just kept saying uh muchas gracias i would say that all the time muchas gracias that was like my go-to and they'd say de nada
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But it does kind of make me want to learn Spanish though. Going there, I kind of realized, I mean, you're surrounded by all these people that that's their main language and it would kind of open up a whole new world of people you can meet and talk to if you learned their language.
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That's the key. You're like sinking into the couch right now.
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Are you okay?
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Well, thank you so much.
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Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
I know. I like that my hand's on your leg. I think you're a really pretty woman.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
Well, thank you for tuning in. I mean, is there anything else I'm going to say?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
Well, I thought you said it's only for our friends' kids.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
So it's not really like a, we're not opening it up to the public.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
We're starting a private preschool just for our friends.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
ah it's happening okay that's so funny thanks so much for listening guys yes thank you and if you have checked out my new podcast thank you so much um it's on youtube if you haven't subscribed yet that would mean a lot because it is a new show and drop a comment who you would like me to interview on the show i want to interview some some cool people you want to be no i'm just kidding okay all right i know i will if you want me to if you're open open slot
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
I hope... I'm not like trying to air... Like they're open about this. Everybody knows that. But like my dad just has sleep problems and then my mom also gets sleep problems. So they just... They sleep better if they sleep separately because they wake up... They wake each other up in the night and then they wake... Maybe that's why it's so much more normal for you.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
i'll consider it okay consider it yeah i'll go to the closet is that where you're bringing guests into our closet i haven't i haven't gotten that far so far every episode has been filmed in the closet have your dad he's coming in town next week yeah that's a good idea i can interview my dad on the show you talk about his life yeah yeah yeah i mean he would love to do it my dad is hilarious he's funny he's he's the ultimate dad joke you know yeah he might cry
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
Anyway, love you guys. We'll see you in the next episode.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
They also go to bed at different times. They wake up at different times. So... It's not, it doesn't mean that they're like, you know, them not sleeping together has nothing to do with the health of their marriage. It has nothing to do with that at all.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
Which is our case. I feel like me sleeping in a separate room, which is technically the closet, has actually been really good.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
I've literally been sleeping in the closet. I've actually been sleeping in our walk-in closet every night for a month.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
That's true, because there's a queen-size mattress in there, because I moved that from... And it's a big closet, don't get me wrong, but not that big. I mean, I moved the queen mattress from our guest bedroom to the closet.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
yeah because okay here's the thing and i i talk way more about this in the episode if you can't tell i'm really excited for you guys to go listen to it so i you should check it out okay i'm gonna stop self-promoting now but uh the the closet though it's so dark it's so quiet and i have a tiny little ac unit in there that makes it really cold i've got a portable um humidifier as well that makes it very like just the air is so you guys
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
You're looking good today, baby.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
You're still looking so hot.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
Honestly, that's next on my list. That's next on my list. I could have some beverages in there.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
I also even got these, a friend of mine got me these noise-canceling headphones with this device that touches your vagus nerve on the side of your neck.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
And it kind of massages your vagus nerve to calm you down so you can get really good sleep at night. It was like the sleep paradise. I created my own sleep paradise in this closet.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
No, I don't even know what that is.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
Oh, and essential... I also have been using essential oils.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
I freaking love essential... Guys, essential oils are great.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
Let me just say this, okay? I don't believe... Sorry if this offends someone. I love you still. I don't believe in the whole essential oil crap. I just don't. But it smells so good. A bunch of people just clicked on it. I just... We just lost about a thousand subscribers.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
Well, I think the placebo effect is real. And I think if something makes you feel awesome.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
Yeah. So I think it's just, it's kind of like a feeling, you know?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
The winter uglies?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
My buddy at the gym was like, dude, your skin looks amazing. And I was like, that's probably because I'm getting more than two hours of sleep at night now.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
Yeah. He was like, bro, your skin looks better than it used to. And I was like, thank you, homie. No, I, but I think, I think my skin was looking horrible cause I just wasn't sleeping. I think, I think like stress and, uh, Yeah, just like insomnia was freaking screwing me up, dude.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
You don't have winter uglies, babe.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
You look so hot.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
Well, you got the winter sexies.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
Maybe, I don't know what it is about me, but I think that you as a mom is really hot.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
I think like a mature looking Abby is a really good looking Abby.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
And I'm excited to see you change over time because I'm going to get to love every different version of you. That's great. It's going to be like you're a different, it's just going to be kind of fun. It's going to keep things interesting, you know?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
Yeah, I mean, especially with how women can dye their hair and cut it.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
Yeah, your hair's changed a lot, and I've liked that at every stage. Like for a while, you had your hair really short and blonde, and that was really hot, and now your hair is long and blonde, and I like that too, actually. Yeah, here's the thing.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
I like you blonde.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
You do look really good blonde.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
Which is hilarious. Like our kids look nothing like us. I mean, okay, they actually, they're carbon clones of Abby, but their hair color and eye color isn't the same as Abby's. I don't know where they got the blonde hair. I don't know where they got the blue eyes because neither one of us have that.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
Dude, I have like tan skin, dark brown eyes. I was told as a kid, like people would literally tell me, dude, your eyes are so dark. It looks like you're staring into the depths of my soul. Like some people would tell me that. And then here, my kids pop out.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
But people are like, dude, your son, like, blonde hair, blue eyes, like, who's the father, you know?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
I'm just kidding.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
Oh yeah.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
That's hilarious. Yeah, no, for me, I guess we've just seen... It's just priorities. We've seen things modeled for us differently in the houses we grew up in.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
Dude, we've been having some really great times now that we sleep in separate beds. Like, I feel like I have so much more energy now.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
It's been great.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
I love being married. I would agree.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
Is the end in sight?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
You've been looking so good.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
You know, I think it is because we're finally getting blinds in our house. We're finally going to have blackout. Like, I can finally have darkness in our room.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
I wouldn't actually disagree with that.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
I think you've gotten more attractive since we started dating.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
We're getting our house together finally. It's actually really coming along. We've been in it for three months, but it's not fully decorated.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
Wait, since October, so November, December, January. Oh, I guess it's been almost four months. Yeah, we've been in that house for almost four months.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
Yeah, I think you're very hot.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult
Yeah. Right now, our backyard is literally just dirt.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 54: Katy Perry
Yeah, I'm excited. Can't wait. Really? Are you doing a podcast right now? Is that what this is?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 54: Katy Perry
Oh, okay. Okay, geez, I can just ask. You should preface at least.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 54: Katy Perry
I'm excited to be on a bus with you again for an extended period of time. That's like probably one of my top five favorite things in the world to do.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 54: Katy Perry
Not at all. I love hanging out with you. I love living with you, to be honest.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 54: Katy Perry
Ooh, that's a bit of a loaded question. I don't know if I want to answer.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 54: Katy Perry
I do. Yo, Nolan, what the fuck is good, dude? What the fuck is good, Matt? I miss you.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
I'm just really excited to live on the road with you again for an extended period of time.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
Nothing. I just rushed my mortgage girl off the phone because I thought the world was burning because I get three calls in a row. Usually it's only two.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
Nothing, man. Nothing. Just the same old, you know. Is that all?
Two Hot Takes
214: The Families are Fighting! Ft. Midwest Married
Payton switch, right? We've called it that from the start.
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A lot of these problems, like as you were reading them, seemed... Very privileged. Not taking away from OP's situation, but they seemed...
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Maybe he watched a lot of social media, saw that the trad wife, you know, trend was coming around and maybe he's just old school like that. Very traditional.
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I'm very surprised in you right now.
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I could have swore this was going to like, you definitely need some therapy. That's like your go-to.
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Boxers, boxer briefs. No, thank you. Welcome back to Two Hot Takes.
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You're going to show this on the video, right?
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My dear, it's called insulting. Insults. It's not humor. It's not jokes. The only thing that, like, when he went to the three-year-old, women, right? Like, that's just rude. And unacceptable to be teaching your three-year-old that this is how you should be treating women. That's not how you do it. That's... Absolutely uncalled for. Huge red flag. Huge red flag.
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I'm going to play devil's advocate. We're just... Don't move on quite yet. Can I just... As a stupid man over here, I just... I got to just like throw myself into the fire here just for a moment.
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Let's just play some hypotheticals here, right? Maybe they're not communicating. I have some questions. Would it have been possible for him to like maybe rephrase like rather than being so sarcastic like, hey, babe, I think your shirt might be just a little small for like what we're doing.
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I agree. She looks great. I know. I mean.
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I also think the internet is the worst place because you're going to have the people that are just assholes and just trying to be dicks.
Two Hot Takes
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What are the legal ramifications as a mother if you were just to hop on a plane with your kids and go to visit your parents and then just never go home?
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Are there, I mean, maybe find a place such as,
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I don't know. That sucks. That's a bad spot.
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Yep. I'm going to just say it. Yeah, I think you are.
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All right. Well, like from the boundary standpoint, fine. You're not the asshole. You're a mother.
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Determine whatever you want. That's about all I mean. It's your choice. I think you're fucking ridiculous.
Two Hot Takes
214: The Families are Fighting! Ft. Midwest Married
I assume that it's not this huge belly. I'm sure it's one that they actually make for, like, play.
Two Hot Takes
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And this kid wearing out in public.
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I bet they do. I bet they do. Okay. Can I get on there?
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I'm going to find one. Because they're not supposed to. Look, at the end of the day, okay, our daughter has played with dolls since the age of two and And they've had babies and she's pretended. I don't know if she's ever really... She's watched me go through pregnancy. Yeah. And especially during that time, I think she was very curious about pregnancy. Absolutely.
Two Hot Takes
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It's not this ridiculous thing that shouldn't be... Because I think OP said, I think her fascination with pregnancy is odd or...
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I'm thinking of a bump like, you know, in high school you had to wear one for sex ed. You'd throw like the things over your shoulder and there'd be like a belly here.
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I'm just saying they exist. So I'm just thinking it's not super realistic. I think it's very much innocent. And if, hey, now you don't have to take your shirt off or lift your shirt up to stuff stuffed animals up your shirt to pretend you're pregnant. This just made it so much easier to play. Mommy and baby. I'm so curious of this one.
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Sure, if Eloise was into, like, playing with dolls like that still. We're at the age I think she still does, but not to the extent. But I think being imaginative and thinking for little girls, it's different.
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And I'm just going to ask this dumb guy over here. What is the difference between sticking a pillow up there versus a pillow that has two straps on it that goes onto a belly?
Two Hot Takes
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I guess I was not thinking realistic at all.
Two Hot Takes
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You were thinking of. I'm going to send you the photo. So people know what I'm talking about.
Two Hot Takes
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I didn't know they made them so real. For what?
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If it looked like that, I'd have a problem with it.
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Yeah. I didn't know they made them like that.
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Yeah, you have to understand what I was envisioning. And maybe I think you really should put it in there so people understand what I was saying.
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We shall. It just like blasted my brain, but... I'm aging myself here, but 10 things I hate about you.
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Do you remember the pregnancy suit?
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Did have boobs. Big floppy boobs. That would be weird.
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Like just around the house? Before she went out on a date, she had to wear the pregnancy suit. Yeah. That's crazy.
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Oh, Heath Ledger. We've given you a lot to work with here, a lot to edit. Good luck.
Two Hot Takes
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That's where you get this episode. 10 things I hate about you.
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Why would you discourage her? It's probably only going to benefit you.
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Yeah, 100%. Yeah, I'm pro-boudoir.
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To make it, like, maybe you would feel better if you had toned up. No, you're being, you're, dude, you're fucked up. You done fucked up.
Two Hot Takes
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It's about him. It's not about her at all at this point. And let's get real, my friend. I was a broke college kid and I spent. Loads more money than $250 on more stupider things than... Like jeans from the buckle. Photos.
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It's also a way for her to go out and get the photos. And obviously, he's going to see them. And to then solidify, like, you are attractive. You are worthy of doing this. You are sexy. You're hot. You're, damn, this is amazing. Celebrate her. Celebrate her. You know, I've seen a lot of boudoir. Boudoir?
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I've seen a lot of photos of there are women who are not skinny minis. You know, they are normal.
Two Hot Takes
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Yeah, exactly. And they are very tasteful and good looking and attractive. I need to look up some of these photos. I just think...
Two Hot Takes
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You blew it. I'm going to throw this out there.
Two Hot Takes
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As you started to read the story, I was like, ooh. Because we had that little convo right in the beginning.
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I was about to change my tune when he said that it was a local photographer. And I thought that the story was going to go like, local people are going to see you in this intimate situation. And I'm very, like, well, connected. I wish it would have gone that way.
Two Hot Takes
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Then I would have been like, all right. Because, you know, I have seen pictures from the local... The group, yeah. Places around here that I know people. And... It feels like you're seeing... When I see those people, I would never bring it up. I would never say anything.
Two Hot Takes
214: The Families are Fighting! Ft. Midwest Married
It feels like something where you're like... Right?
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Yeah, no, I think that his pride is getting in the way, which is bullshit. He has an ego that he feels like he needs to be the breadwinner and the provider, and he doesn't want to step up and take on the role of things that I think he believes are of lesser value. They're beneath him. They're beneath him. Taking care of a kid is woman's work.
Two Hot Takes
214: The Families are Fighting! Ft. Midwest Married
It wasn't. Somebody might see you out and be like, hey.
Two Hot Takes
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You're really picking some stories tonight with a lot of shitty men.
Two Hot Takes
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This dude is so untouched. He doesn't get it.
Two Hot Takes
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12 pounds is the difference here? This dude sucks.
Two Hot Takes
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Should I play devil's advocate? No. I'm kidding. No, absolutely not. This guy sucks. This guy sucks. It's super disappointing. There's no devil's advocate. I agree with 100% everything you said. People make choices within their relationships, whether you thought you wanted kids at 20. 21 or 26 or 30. And you're just, God, we're just going to work for this one more milestone until we're 32.
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And then we'll try to have kids or you were a team, you were a partnership and those are the choices you made together. And here you are. And yeah, you left her to deal with some really heavy shit on her own and you suck.
Two Hot Takes
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I agree with that comment. And if he does go back or did, hopefully he had a completely different story about what he thought he heard and what was transpiring and how he had to go and deal with something completely different than what he explained in this story.
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This lady was working beforehand though.
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And she had a lot of money. She paid 20% down on the house.
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So she's not, you know, she has an income. It sounds like she makes baller money as well.
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No, you're not an asshole. I can understand not wanting to be the dinner guy all the time.
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Not in the same context, but yesterday... actually, had a similar situation. And I get anxious when I have to order somebody else's Subway for them. And I have to decide on what veggies they want and what sauce they want.
Two Hot Takes
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And they have new subs, and they have hot honey subs.
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And you're not the only one, though. I had to recently go and get a Subway for our general contractor that's working with us. And he's like, yeah, just get me a spicy Italian. I'm like, cool, spicy Italian, thinking... Easy. It's a pre-order. No, it's not.
Two Hot Takes
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And I just think that when he is describing chefing, like cooking things, it's not baking.
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So he needs to ensure that. To his wife that it's OK, whatever, however much like put a dash of salt and put a tablespoon of salt and we'll we'll just roll with it. It's not baking. You're not going to fuck it up. OK, if you're cooking a meal, you're fine. If you're baking a meal and you throw in a pound of baking soda, you're done. OK, it's two totally different things.
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Cook away, throw some things in it and you can play with it because you're going to cook it again. Yeah, you'll be fine. I agree. Give the guy a break. Don't ask him how much salt to put in.
Two Hot Takes
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But if you want feet pics, reach out. I got you.
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I said that, right? He's not the asshole.
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I actually, prior to starting this house project, I used to cook much more than what Amy ever did.
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Seriously, but the mother-in-law said something along the lines of like, if you don't stay home for the next couple of months, well, what's two months? I don't understand. What am I missing here?
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She's offended. Did you just say that was a lie? Yes.
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Oh, I kind of feel like we should do both, but those are people are screaming.
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And also, I found that- If it's two months, is it a year? Stay-at-home mom.
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Very interesting. Very interesting topics. Okay. The first one, I would say probably... Not because that's just messed up. Why do you want to see your sister's vagina? You don't.
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I got to backtrack on what I had previously said. I guess if you, you know, don't go below the curtain, it could be a very supportive thing in a very supportive role, regardless of what family member you are to that person. So in that aspect, you know, husband's deployed. It's not. Yeah, it's really. Giving birth is truly is not a sexual thing at all. It's not incestual.
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incestuous that's a big word so yeah no I think he might be in the clear in that aspect if sister didn't have you know other people to support her or felt that this person was the best person to get her through that ordeal because giving birth is no joke I've been there for two of them and scary
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I don't know. What's a good rate? I'll sell my feet for not much.
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Again, if you look at my initial reaction to this, I think that you're like, oh, whoa, you're going to have your sibling in the room? I get where people come from on that.
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It's because they're so out of touch with reality on what it takes to actually run a household and the financial tax that it takes on a household to be able to do the things and afford all the things.
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Yeah, I think a name. Just say one. Say a name. Clyde. Got it. Okay. I immediately can think of four or five Clydes that I know. It just brings me right there.
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Claude was just in town last weekend.
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So for me, yeah, a name just rolls around to all the other people of that name that I know. And if you're not in good standing in that name, Yeah, no, I could not name my child after your affair lover person.
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I know one Claude. He's not like he's really just an acquaintance to me.
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Yeah, he did come in town last weekend. I don't know one, but very random.
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Well, actually, you're here. Thanks for coming to our house.
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That was like a freebie. All the other ones, though? You really did us dirt.
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That wouldn't bother me. I'm not easily offended. I feel like that's pretty clever. Which is why I can just like run my mouth on here thinking that I won't offend anybody. But yeah.
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So if I did offend you on this episode- I apologize.
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Okay. And this is what it comes down to is my intent versus the impact. All right? My intent was good. Maybe the impact ended bad, but I intended it to all be good.
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Wonderful. Well, everybody, two hot takes. Thank you for listening. Like, follow, subscribe. We got to go eat a pizza now. All right. Love you.
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I believe you. She went to space apparently.
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When she's sleeping, I'll take her feet pictures.
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You already said that you'd do it. Just hit us up.
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