Matt

Hi, John.

How are you going?

Well, thanks.

Good, thank you.

Yeah, no, I think what sadly gets lost in this is just prior to that decision and what happened was I was, as a Port Adelaide fan, I was just really questioning the discipline of the Port players or at least

Sometimes you can have a 15-20 minute gameplay between a decision that an umpire makes that's contrary to another decision by another umpire on the ground.

But when decisions at one end of the ground within two or three minutes are favouring just one side in particular and the locals are getting really, really restless, it was really frustrating.

So if you even think about that decision where Jordan Sweet has not been holding...

I'm sorry, the number 10 player for St.

Kilda, I forgot his name now, but he gets a free kick and that's one of numerous poor decisions.

And obviously there's got to be some level of accountability to the performance from the umpires.

And they had that already.

And I just think maybe Nick was probably also a bit defensive and was aware that there was some poor judgment and poor decisions there.

And Zach, he could have actually said something that was not about payment.

But Nick's immediately defensive, understanding and aware of the heightened situation and how, you know, that's why.

Why would Nick be so defensive immediately to think that Bud has said that even if he didn't?

We are rolling.

We're live.

Okay, can I open my eyes?

Keep your eyes closed.