The Megyn Kelly Show
Tucker Carlson on Michelle Obama, Newsom and AOC, and Fentanyl Crisis in America, with Billy Baldwin and Dr. Robert Marbut | Ep. 1060
Tue, 29 Apr 2025
Megyn Kelly is joined by Tucker Carlson, host of "The Tucker Carlson Show" to discuss Michelle Obama’s shocking comments about fears over Trump's immigration policy on Jay Shetty’s podcast, her constant negativity and complaining, her hostility and resentment towards her husband and why happy marriages make happy people, her disdain for America, who could be the future of the Democratic party, ridiculous comments from JB Pritzker, the strategy behind Gavin Newsom's podcast and his total lack of principles, whether AOC could really be a 2028 player, the truth about Iran and Russia, what America should do about the Houthis, how much of what the DC establishment on both sides are disconnected from reality and American interests, a response to those critiquing him as anti-American, the fallout from the "Signalgate" scandal, what's actually happening with Pete Hegesth inside the Pentagon, Trump’s continued public support of Hegseth while the alleged leakers speak out to Tucker and Megyn, his frustration over the rate of deportations so far in the first 100 days, what he thinks would be a better approach, and more. Then Dr. Robert Marbut and actor Billy Baldwin join to talk about their new film "Fentanyl: Death Incorporated," the fentanyl epidemic in America, why the problem affects all demographics, how the Canadian border plays a factor to the crisis, personal stories of accidental deaths, and more.Carlson- https://tuckercarlson.com/Marbut & Baldwin- https://fentanyldeathincorporated.com/ Done with Debt: https://www.DoneWithDebt.com & tell them Megyn sent you!Paleovalley: 100% grass-fed beef sticks. Get 20% off your 1st order https://paleovalley.com/Megyn and use code MEGYN.Just Thrive: Visit https://justthrivehealth.com/discount/Megyn and use code MEGYN to save 20% sitewideHungryroot: https://Hungryroot.com/MK | Get 40% off your first box PLUS a free item in every box for life!Follow The Megyn Kelly Show on all social platforms:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/MegynKellyTwitter: http://Twitter.com/MegynKellyShowInstagram: http://Instagram.com/MegynKellyShowFacebook: http://Facebook.com/MegynKellyShow Find out more information at: https://www.devilmaycaremedia.com/megynkellyshow
Chapter 1: What are Michelle Obama's recent comments on immigration fears?
And it's just, let me play you a soundbite because it's, it's even worse than you're imagining. Like, yeah, she went on this guy, Jay Shetty's podcast and he asked her something about her greatest fear as of late. And here's what she said.
This current climate for me, it's what's happening to immigrants. So it's not the fear for myself anymore. I drive around in a four-car motorcade with a police escort. I'm Michelle Obama. I do still worry about my daughters in the world, even though they are somewhat recognizable. So my fears are for what I know is happening out there in streets all over the city.
And now that we have leadership that is sort of indiscriminately determining who belongs and who doesn't, and we know that those decisions aren't being made with courts and with due process and that it's being made like this cop that pulled my brother over when he was 12. You don't look like somebody that belongs.
I can determine just by looking at you that you're a good person or you're not a good person. And knowing that there's so much bias and so much racism and so much ignorance that fuels those kind of choices. I worry for people of color all over this country. And I don't know that we will have the advocates to protect everybody. And that makes me, that frightens me. It keeps me up at night.
How do you feel comfortable going to work, going to school, when you know that there could be people out here judging you and who could upend your life in a second? that, you know, that that that's who I worry for right now. There's so much in there, Tucker.
I'll let you take a swing at it first.
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Chapter 2: What is Tucker Carlson's perspective on Michelle Obama and privileged unhappiness?
I mean, my first response is it feels so antique. It feels so 2017. It's like literally nobody cares. Nobody cares at all. All of those talking point people of color under attack. No, they're not. They're coming here by the millions because this is the safest country for everybody, no matter what your color is or it was in any case. So, like, that's just so... old fashioned.
I mean, it's really like you expect her to say, let me fax you my thoughts on this because it's just like she's so out of it. The second thing is that like we always beat up on, you know, rich white ladies because they're the most disruptive force in America. But that's unfair. It's not it's not about color.
It's there's something about the people with the most in our country that's really poisonous. They're the unhappiest or the most restless. They're the most self-involved. They're the least generous. They're the most annoying. And it's not just a gender thing. It's men too. But there's something about America at this moment where the unhappiest people are also the most privileged.
And I think it does tell you something deep about accumulating money or worshipping money. It doesn't fill the empty space at all. Larry Fink is a miserable person in real life despite having billions of dollars. And
of course you know personally and i do too a lot of deeply unhappy billionaires way more unhappy than the guy fixing your air conditioning so there is like it's it's it's a theological principle that i think is worth saying out loud worshiping money worshiping power organizing your life so you get more of both does not give you peace or happiness. In fact, it seems to produce the opposite.
People like Michelle Obama, who's drowning in Lake Me. I mean, Michelle Obama is literally going down for the third time into this pool of self involvement. And you just you don't think she's going to come up again like she's dying of affluence, privilege and self obsession, obviously.
Everything she says is negative. We've been watching clips from her podcast over the past couple of weeks. Everything she says is negative. I mean, you would never know you are hearing from a woman who is first lady for eight years, has become probably a billionaire by this point. Is out on David Geffen's yacht every other summer. Her estate in Martha's Vineyard.
Her daughters who went to these Tony schools. You would think you were listening to somebody basically like the wife of a George Floyd. And she's never gotten over whatever grievance she had growing up. I love how the soundbite begins. Okay. It's not the fear for myself. I drive around in a four-car motorcade with a police escort. I'm Michelle Obama. Unbelievable, right?
Who talks about themselves that way? Even if you are Michelle Obama. Barack Obama doesn't talk about himself that way. It's just like the hubris. And then this is the part that jumped out to me more than any other. I do still worry about my daughters in the world. even though they are somewhat recognizable.
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Chapter 3: How is Governor JB Pritzker's political rhetoric shaping up for 2028?
He's the most powerful and effective vice president ever. in my lifetime for sure. And he has managed to do that while remaining completely loyal on the same page as Donald Trump, not undermining him. I mean, that's always the tension between president and vice president. You know, the vice president has his own aspirations. And so he's sort of subtly undermining the president.
That has not happened at all. And I don't expect that it will. So yeah, I mean, I think J.D. is the obvious. I mean, it's certainly not gonna be Nikki Haley. Like, let's be real.
Right. That was tried and failed. What did you think of the, I haven't spoken to you publicly since then, but what did you think of the scene with J.D. and Trump and Zelensky in the Oval?
Well, I thought it was amazing. I thought it was amazing. I mean, I'm frustrated because I think that Zelensky is an enemy of the United States. And I think his government has tried to assassinate a number of people. I don't think that I know that, including some people who are well known on the conservative side. So I think it's a really, really dark story.
government um it's banned the largest christian denomination in ukraine that has sold a lot of the weapons that we have sent them to all kinds of dark groups including hamas and the mexican drug cartels like i think it's a it's an outlaw government that does not represent ukrainians he's not an elected president um he has no he has no moral claim to run that country at all so you know i'm always a little distressed when he's treated as a legitimate president which he's not
But that said, he was in the Oval. I didn't have any control over any of that. I didn't want to be in the Oval in the first place. Like, hey, why don't you stand for election? And when you win, then we'll treat you like a head of state, but you're not a head of state because he's not. So that's my personal view. But given that, I was thrilled to see Donald Trump
i think that was genuine peak like we just sent you billions and billions of dollars you stole a lot of it how many houses do you have zielinski by the way do you have a house in miami do you have one in france like what you know let's let's actually do an audit of your personal finances and of budenoff and all the people around you and like let's find out where the money went
That's never been done, it's never going to be done, because a lot of Americans have gotten rich from it too, as I know you know, it's a money laundering scheme. But with that all in mind, and of course the president knows all that, for Zelensky to be like, well, you owe me more money or else big problems for you. I mean, I think that just exploded Trump's brain. I think he was genuinely outraged.
How dare this guy talk to me? This dictator of a client state talked to me that way. You know, I hope that US policymakers will keep that in mind going forward. This guy is not our ally at all. He's trashing the United States constantly, constantly trying to split Europe from the United States. Oh, my gosh.
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Chapter 4: What does Tucker Carlson think about Gavin Newsom's podcast and political future?
I mean, I think it's really dangerous to do it this way. I think we should have cut off Ukraine day one, forced a settlement of our choosing in conjunction with the Russians who won. So in the end, let's be totally honest, the winner sets the terms like that's just a fact. We could try and guide those terms, but we're not in a position of absolute authority in Eastern Europe right now.
It's just a fact. I wish we were, but we're not. So but I do think the longer this goes on, the higher the incentive for Zelensky and the people around him. to drag the rest of the world into this, to commit some serious atrocity in Moscow. And by the way, I was there. I saw with my own eyes, they sent a drone in and attacked the Kremlin.
And of course, the Russians didn't want to admit that because they don't want to admit that their capital city is vulnerable to attack. But that's a fact. I saw it on fire. And every Russian I asked denied that it was happening. I was like, wait, there's... But that was Ukrainian drone. And there have been a bunch of them. And those are American drones.
So the United States, under Joe Biden, attacked the Russian capital. This is so crazy. And the Russians, for their own who are not always honest about things, to be honest, you know, To be clear, they have downplayed that because a bunch of different complicated reasons. But that's all true. And so the Zelensky government has incentive to do more of that.
And you could really see this thing getting completely out of control. And like, why wouldn't China? North Korea has already sent troops onto the battlefield in Ukraine. Why wouldn't China do that? So you could have a scenario where the United States, American advisors, we have a million Americans fighting in that war, as you know. They lie about it, but it's true. They're in Ukraine fighting.
And European troops, NATO troops, and Ukrainian troops are fighting Chinese troops. This could get out of control super fast. Everyone thinks, oh, I know how this is going to go, and this is what's going to happen, like some Rube Goldberg setup, and then this is going to happen. That'll happen. It's like... Dude, you have no idea what's going to happen.
You don't know what you're having for dinner tonight. The future is not under our control at all. And so anyone who tells you, like, here's how it's going to go is a liar or dumb. These are dynamic situations, and they could go in a crazy, unanticipated direction. If there's one lesson of history, it's that. So you want to shut down the fighting as fast as you can, and I really hope they will.
I don't want to put you on the spot, but the, you did peak my curiosity with the, they've tried to have people assassinated in leadership positions or like, do you mean Trump? Do you mean, are you talking about yourself? I couldn't, I couldn't quite glean what you were intimating on that one.
I mean, I would just say that I don't know that they've been responsible for an assassination attempt on Donald Trump. I can't prove that. I think it's very obvious that the Ukrainians were involved in the attempted assassination on the golf course in Florida this fall.
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Chapter 5: Could AOC be a serious contender in 2028 according to Tucker Carlson?
I know more about Dr. Jill Biden's college career, which is totally useless information, by the way, than I do about two assassination attempts on the now president. So I think it's very strange. I'm not withholding something I know. I really don't know why. I do think the president is instinctively... opposed to talking about those attempts.
I think he thinks it diminishes him or makes him seem like he's complaining. I don't know exactly what the reason is, but as an American, I think it's fair for the rest of us to ask, what was that? You can't have a democracy if the head of state lives in fear of assassination. You can't, because no one can think clearly or make... you know, wise decisions under the threat of death.
So we need to get that settled, I think, soon.
While we're on the subject of foreign policy, let's take a minute on the Houthis and Iran. Yes. And that, you know... That's a loud war machine, too. I mean, there is definitely a faction of people who would love to see the green light on either us hitting Iran or just backing Israel and it hitting Iran. And the Houthis are backed by Iran. So that was playing with fire.
I understand why we did it totally. But, you know, I just wonder, I haven't heard you speak directly to that attack or the language that we've been hearing around Iran, even by the president. Like, I don't want to bomb them. I'd much rather chat. But, you know, it's an option, which I know you're against. So can you talk about that a bit?
Well, I think I mean, look, just in an ideal world, I think Iran is a threat to Israel. I think it's a threat to the Gulf states. All six of them were allied with those countries. I think they've been really good partners for us. And so it's not a defense of Iran to ask the question, can we actually do this? I mean, there are all kinds of things that you want to do.
The question is, am I capable of doing them? Do I have the power to affect the change I seek? And in the case of Iran, you know, it's not at all clear. What is clear is that any strike on Iran could potentially, because the future, as noted, is hard to predict, could potentially spin into a much wider, potentially global conflict. But even in the short term, there are massive, massive downsides.
So there are, what, six Iranian nuclear facilities that we know about or we talk about in public anyway, and all six of them are on the Gulf, the Arabian Gulf or the Persian Gulf, depending on what side you're on. But they're on the Gulf. Well, the water supply for every country in the region comes from the Gulf through desalinization.
So if you blow up a nuclear site and you pollute the Persian Gulf, then you've got six of the richest countries in the world with no water. And at least one of them has thought this through and has been building giant reservoirs for seawater, for drinking water, but they're only a couple of weeks supply.
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Chapter 6: What is the truth about Ukraine, Zelensky, and US foreign policy?
now there's a long history in iran going back to 1954 where the us government did affect regime change um as you know in fact the guy in charge that lived on my street as a kid former ci officer um roosevelt and that didn't work well and that got us tonight the shah and then to 1979 and then the islamic republic ever since so like we it's hard to affect regime change in countries you're not from
It's hard to know what the consequences will be. We've tampered in that country extensively. It hasn't worked at all. It's been counterproductive. And that's also true of neighboring countries, Iraq, Syria right now, Libya. I mean, just name the country. Like, regime change is hard to pull off, okay?
So anyone telling you regime change, and there are a lot of people, paid liars in Washington, who are telling you that. Like, oh, well, just regime change. Lots of people hate the religious authorities in Iran. I think that's true. Seems to be true. But that's not the same as, oh, we're going to throw in a pro-Western government and everything's going to be fine.
Like, show us where you've done that before. Oh, you've never done it before.
No, I've been joking that when they talk about regime change in Russia, they think they're going to get Jeb Bartlett in there after Putin.
Oh, dude. Oh, dude. The largest country in the world is 25 percent Muslim that, you know, Putin is a moderate. Putin is the most pro-Western person I've dealt with in Russia. I mean, I'm just telling you, like, whatever. I'm not defending Putin, though. I think you can make a case he's done a great job for Russia.
No, but you're making the case you don't know what's coming next. And yeah, look at the terrorism threat from within Russia. I mean, he's clamped down on that just the way you'd want to happen in your country.
I think I think we can say that anybody at a think tank or a publication or a federal agency who blithely talks about regime change in any country should be disqualified from talking about anything foreign policy related ever again. If you had a hand in the Iraq war, if you had a hand in the Syria disaster, if you had a hand in killing Gaddafi.
If you had a hand in Afghanistan, if you lied about what happened on 9-11, and that's pretty much everybody in D.C. in the foreign policy establishment, you can no longer participate in the decision-making process about where to send arms and money around the world because you are disqualified. Your track record is so repugnant. We're not going to throw you in jail, though you clearly deserve it.
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Chapter 7: What are the risks and realities of US involvement with Iran and the Houthis?
And I have a million friends who both live in Israel and who love Israel. So I don't wanna have a fight about Israel at all, just at all. So I've really tried not to have that fight. And but I don't want the United States to enter in another unwinnable Middle Eastern war. I just really, really don't, especially now. We don't even have the ammo for it. So whatever. There's a lot.
But anyway, I have been like attacked in ways that are so crazy that I and it's totally coordinated. So I finally, the other day, I called someone I know in the Israeli government. There are some great people in the Israeli government. I called one of them and I said, stop this. I am not your enemy. You don't think you have enough enemies? What? You have real enemies. I've gone out of my way.
And by the way, it's our weapons being used in Gaza. So I have every right to say, you have a dispute with your neighbor and you want to get medieval on him. Do it on your own dime. Do it with your own weapons. I'm not paying for that. That's a totally fair position as an American taxpayer who pays like way more than his share in taxes. Like I have a right to do that.
I haven't done that because I don't want to fight. But I've been attacked anyway. And these creepy people taking direct orders from a foreign government are attacking me on the internet. And I wouldn't care except this specific slur affects my personal life. Like a really old friend of mine, 35-year-old friend, I can't believe what they're saying. Is this true?
Is it true that I'm an anti-Semite now?
Of course it's not.
What are you even saying? So they've gotten to me. So that's made me upset. So I called up and I was like, you guys got to stop. We're not doing that. I'm almost 56, I know how the world works. Please stop. Well, and I was like, if you think I'm your main enemy in a world that really hates you, I mean, they're right about that. A lot of people really do hate Israel. I'm not one of them.
If you think I'm the problem, you've gone off the deep end. You're insane. Like, I am showing restraint. The only thing, I've done one segment on the whole topic and it's on Christians in the Holy Land. I am a Christian. My family's been Christian for, you know, whatever, a thousand years. I have a right to say this. And Christians in the Holy Land are mistreated by Muslims and by Israel.
And in the West Bank and in Gaza. And I have a right to say I don't think that U.S. tax dollars should be used to mistreat Christians. And by the way, my real contempt is not for Israel. It's for the American evangelical preachers who ignore this, the Christian Zionists who think it's OK to blow up a church because their weird theology, which is like demonstrably not in the New Testament.
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Chapter 8: How does Tucker Carlson respond to accusations of being anti-American or anti-Semitic?
He believed it also, but that was out there. Everyone heard that. He photocopied information or took a picture on his phone, texted it to this reporter at NBC, broke federal law. That's a crime to do that. Undermine the president, et cetera, et cetera. Well, that's not true. He didn't do that.
And moreover, not only did he not do that, there's no evidence that he did it because they never took his phone and they never polygraphed him. So the whole thing was one of those classic Washington. I think of it as like getting attacked by a swarm of bees. Like you're just going along, you're walking through the woods and all of a sudden you step on a hive and they're just flying up your shorts.
They're on you. You can't think straight. All you know is pain. And that's how they get people. Like this stuff will appear out of nowhere. All of a sudden you'll just hear so-and-so's bad. He did something really wrong. I don't know all the details, but he's done. And then the five minute hate begins and the person's destroyed. That's what happened to Dan Caldwell.
And but the question is, why wasn't personal? Because Dan Caldwell was a check against the enormous pressure that the Pentagon and the White House are receiving to engage in a war with Iran and also to destabilize Pete. I mean, he'd worked with Pete for over 10 years. They were concerned veterans for America together. So he knew him well.
And so to take away all the people that the secretary knows well and trusts and replace them with, you know, sinister lifers who are never telling the truth about anything. I do think, again, I don't have any special knowledge. This is just my outside analysis as someone who's a student of bureaucracy, the federal bureaucracy. I think that's what happened.
So after you guys, after you sat with Dan Caldwell, which was a great interview and it hit last Monday, everybody should listen to it. We wound up speaking with one of the other guys who got fired, Colin Carroll. And he had a different take on it. His take was, I mean, he didn't put it in this exact way, but he said, they're having these fights with this Joe Casper, who's Pete's chief of staff.
They couldn't get along with this guy. He couldn't get along with them, like pretty much all three of them. It sounded like maybe he felt threatened by them. He denies that. He says the office was running fine. Just look at the results. But they seem to say this guy was an obstacle that they were trying to get around. And I think they think...
he was out to get them and he thinks they were out to get him and they think he had a heavy hand in setting it up to look like they were the leakers. And I don't know exactly whether that's true or not, but obviously those three were walked out the door and he was walked out of his position.
He's no longer the chief of staff, but the whole thing has the unfortunate effect of making Pete's top inner circle look like it's in disarray. And I'll say this, we both like Mark a lot. So his podcast is called Next Up. It's going to premiere today. And he, I believe, has a bit of news. He's going to be breaking on Pete. And it doesn't sound like it's necessarily going to be all that positive.
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Chapter 9: What is the fentanyl crisis in America and why is it a critical issue?
They make the big decisions. They own it. They're not slaves or serfs. They're shareholders in this enterprise called America. And they have a say. So now those same people are telling me that some appointed, unelected federal judge gets to invite 7 billion people into my country and there's nothing I can do about it? Yeah, I don't think so. I'm not playing along with that.
I'm totally for balance of power. I'm for the current system as envisioned, which, by the way, is going away. It's not sustainable with this population, let's be honest. Nobody cares about the Constitution anymore. I do, because I'm a legacy American. But none of the newcomers, the 50 million people who just got here, they don't care at all. Why would they? It's not their heritage. It's mine.
so you're going to lecture me about that and then tell me that we can't stop anybody coming here on our dime who just feels like coming here i'm ignoring you i'm literally ignoring you what are you going to do about it that's how i personally feel about because at the end of democracy you're violating the people's will through your appointment, your appointed power, not your elected power.
Power does not derive from the population. It derives from the appointment that you got. And you're making the central decision in our society. I don't think you are.
So how do they speed it up? I mean, Trump's done so much alien enemies act and he expanded expedited removal and we're back to remain in Mexico and he has home and out. Like, how does he speed it up?
The first thing you do is just say, anyone who's a non-citizen, a non-citizen in the United States, is ineligible for any federal benefit. That means no public schooling. That means no food stamps or SNAP. That means no housing vouchers. That means no benefit designed for American citizens can go to a non-citizen. You want those benefits? Become a citizen.
And if you're not a citizen, you get nothing. Why would you?
how can you use how how are we sitting here and watching all every small hospital in the united states is going under right now because people who have no right to be here are using the emergency room bring your kid to an emergency room outside of like some tiny gated rich community and you will find out that the whole system is collapsing under the weight i'm sure they're all good people not even attacking them like they're doing what i would do they're using the available largesse to help their families i get it
We're the criminals here. We're allowing this. So you just say now on executive order, no non-citizen, period, can receive federal benefits, period. The president can control that. And, you know, then we'll find out who's here for a better life and to bootstrap his way to success and who's here because there's just a lot of free stuff from a very weak state.
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Chapter 10: What is happening with Pete Hegseth at the Pentagon and his political support?
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Today, as we mentioned, is National Fentanyl Awareness Day, and this is a real one. Honestly, this is not one of those made-up things where it's like, whatever, I don't know what this is, I don't have time. We do have to pause and think about, to remember those who have been lost, but think about the solutions to this problem so we can prevent these unnecessary mass deaths of our young people.
It is a true crisis in this country. Fentanyl overdose is the leading cause of death in Americans ages 18 to 45. I mean, that's the vast swath of living that we do, 18 to 45. You're young, you're vibrant, you have it all in front of you at that age, and it's the leading cause of death right now. This issue cuts close to the bone for me personally. As I've shared with you before, my sister had a...
an opioid problem through no fault of her own. Honestly, she was prescribed this stuff by doctors back in the era where the doctors were saying to patients, it's not addictive, which is not the same thing as fentanyl. Fentanyl is far more dangerous. Frankly, it's more lethal, but it's a similar road.
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Chapter 11: What progress has Trump made regarding immigration and border enforcement?
And what we're starting to see now is vitals getting mixed with so many different things like, of course, tranquilizer, even meth. And so you have a high and a downer at the same thing, and it's really wreaking havoc on your heart. What we have to think about is things like Narcan are purely a short-term fix. It will not fix the long run. It will not fix the intermediate.
Unless we start thinking about treatment and recovery and not getting addicted in the first place, Narcan will just postpone the death to another day unless you start getting the treatment and the recovery going again. And in the United States, we have really made it easy to get high and hard to get treatment rather than making it easy to get treatment and hard to get high.
That's one of the stunning things. Bill, you watch this film and we've covered it as a new show. City after city has provided like clean needles or even a nurse who will be with you when you inject your drug or take your drug to make sure you don't die.
And you make the point over and over, you can find that very easily in the United States, finding treatment and rehabilitary systems or spots much, much harder. And if you do find a place that's like a drug rehab that really works, They tend to be exorbitantly priced. Most people can't afford them. It's just incredibly hard to get help.
I think the left policies over the last 15 years of no harm and low harm were very, very well intended. They haven't produced the results that they had hoped. They have to course correct. Ironically, the providing a safe place to get high was not a left policy. That was the police department that didn't want to spread their resources out.
over many, many different places, say in Portland or in Spokane or in Sacramento. And they wanted to provide this so they can monitor it and control and make sure they were keeping people alive. That was a policing tactic. But low bar and no bar is a big problem because in California and in Portland and Seattle, they were talking about providing housing.
Well, it's great when you take a mentally ill addict who's homeless and provide housing. You check one box, they're no longer homeless. But they're still mentally ill and they're still addicted to fentanyl.
So, you know, it leads us to when I have this conversation and I say it's going to require the kind of services that Dr. Marbitt's providing for his Haven of Hope in San Antonio that services 2,700 people. with a success rate of over 70%, getting people on their feet, off out of the system, off the services, totally self-sufficient, totally independent.
And when I talk about 360-degree universal care, they're like, whoa, that sounds incredibly expensive. Who's going to pay for that? And I say, you're already paying too much for not enough results. Right now, you call 911. Fire department, police department, sheriffs, paramedics respond, you pay. They go to the emergency room, you pay. They get admitted, you pay.
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