Tucker Carlson

Okay, I wanted to do this.

I wanted to meet you.

I heard about you from my friend, Sean Ryan, wonderful man, who was going on about you and the work that you're doing on the darkest things happening on the internet, which we'll talk about in a minute.

But he said, this is a guy who really understands how to use the internet, just open source.

And also non-open source, since you're also an expert on hacking.

So let's just start there.

What can you learn about someone you've never met on the internet, open source?

You don't even own a computer.

I have an iPhone, which is, I don't know how different that is from a computer.

I haven't owned a computer since 2011 because I just disapprove, basically.

You're totally right.

And I always say, I don't have a TV, but like I get X or whatever YouTube on my phone.

So it's like a distinction without a difference.

It's just, it's an absurd pretense that I keep up.

Yeah.

I don't have email that I use.

I don't have email really.

And-

I've had the same phone number since 1995.

So it's a 20-minute challenge, 20 minutes to find out what you can about somebody?