Tucker Carlson

So it does seem like in addition to everything, first of all, Dave, thank you, as always.

We're late because we just had such a long breakfast, two and a half hour breakfast.

I hope this conversation could be as interesting as our breakfast just was.

But in addition to everything else changing, you made such a smart point a minute ago about the means of convincing the public.

The propaganda machine is completely broken.

And so what does that mean?

You're in the middle of a war, you're in the middle of a massive power shift globally, like everything is changing, the economy, military strength, like everything, and it's impossible to know who is telling the truth.

Like who comes out more credible in this, in the media?

Like who are the people you listen to?

What's that look like?

Okay, not that long.

I'm implicated, yes.

Credibility doesn't derive from being right about everything.

Credibility derives from being honest.

I think that's, first of all, so well put and also so true because it can't actually last that much longer because the disparity in power is too great.

So I think a lot of people who have podcasts –

I've been in so many different kinds of media, it's hard to remember what this one's called.

It's podcasting.

It's the same, you know.

I don't know why.