Tucker Carlson

Jimmy Dore, thank you for doing this.

My pleasure.

Thanks for having me.

So it seemed to me so much is happening.

It's hard to get perspective on any of it, but it does feel like Thomas Massey's loss in the primary in Kentucky two weeks ago was like a kind of pivot point in American politics.

What was your response to it?

And we get lectured constantly in the most self-righteous way by the worst people.

It's a hard jump for your average right winger, me, for example,

to accept the fact that corporations are even more malicious than government.

Way more.

You know, I think that's, I'm coming around to that just because the evidence is overwhelming, but I do think there's like a training that takes place where you just have someone point to Soviet Poland and you're like, that's the option to what we have.

And you're like, I don't want that.

I don't like potatoes.

You know what I mean?

Bad architecture, grim weather.

But I kind of believe that.

So either you have like Google runs everything and, you know, they do it in Technicolor and it's like free and it's great, or the state runs everything and it's Soviet Poland.

And so like, I do think the average right winger, or again, I'll speak for myself, it's like hard to accept that

you want to live in a system where billionaires don't control everything.

Like, that's not good.