The Tucker Carlson Show
Rep. Curt Weldon: It’s Time to Finally Tell the Truth About 9-11
Mon, 14 Apr 2025
After twenty years in congress, Curt Weldon was about to become chairman of the House Armed Services Committee when he publicly questioned the accuracy of the 9-11 report. In retaliation, the Bush administration sent federal agents to his daughter’s house and ended his political career. At 77, Weldon has decided to tell the truth about what actually happened on September 11, 2001. (00:00) Introduction (02:33) Why Did They Oust Weldon? (07:12) Could the CIA Have Prevented 9/11? (16:00) How the FBI Tried to Intimidate Weldon (19:23) Did the CIA Lie About Osama bin Laden’s Location? (34:27) Trump’s Biggest Challenge Right Now (36:09) How the Deep State Undermined Weldon’s Political Career (54:31) The 9/11 Commission Was a Scam Paid partnerships with: Masa Chips: Get 25% off with code TUCKER at https://masachips.com/tucker iTrust Capital: Get $100 funding bonus at https://www.iTrustCapital.com/Tucker Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: Why was Curt Weldon ousted from Congress?
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Ja. Until he asked questions about the official story on 9-11. At which point the Bush administration sent the FBI to his daughter's house, destroyed her life, never charged her with a crime and effectively got Kurt Weldon bounced out of Congress. I haven't talked to him in 20 years. I didn't know exactly what to expect.
But this conversation, the one you're about to see, raises far more questions than I ever anticipated. This is not a crazy person. These are not crazy questions. He makes no claims he doesn't have personal firsthand evidence of. When it ended, I asked him how many other officials who were in and around Washington during 9-11 have similar questions. And he said to me, as far as I know, all of them.
And he's still in touch with a lot of those people. After this conversation, which again we've been thinking about ever since, I thought it might be time to look a little more deeply into the 9-11 Commission Report. Was it accurate? 9-11 changed the United States forever. Those of us who remember it, who lived through it, can tell you this was a different country afterward.
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Chapter 2: Could the CIA have prevented 9/11?
Completely different and not a better country. And so there is no more significant historical event in the lifetimes of any living American than 9-11. And the fact that there are still outstanding questions about what exactly happened and why is troubling. Up until this point, most of the people who've addressed these questions are either crazy or seem slightly crazy.
Now is the time for a sober look. Not a wild-eyed speculative look, but an honest look and honest conversations with people who participated in the response to that day. Government officials. And so we're going to do that. We are planning right now a multi-part documentary series on 9-11. And we hope to bring that to you as soon as we possibly can. And now, former Congressman Kurt Weldon.
Congressman, thank you so much for doing this. I haven't seen you in 20 years. One of the last times I thought about you was right around 2006. And you had been a frequent guest on the show that I was hosting then. And I read that the FBI had raided your daughter's house. And I thought, man, I was like Kurt Weldon. I guess he's corrupt. And then I never heard anything about it.
And then you lost that election to a guy who I always thought was kind of repulsive. And then probably 15 years passed. And I thought to myself, wait a second. Kurt Weldon was the only Republican I'm aware of. who criticized the US response, the Intel agency's response to 9-11, who wrote a book blaming elements of the US government for allowing 9-11 to happen and then covering it up.
And then right on the cusp of becoming, tell me if I'm getting this wrong, chairman of the Armed Services Committee, the FBI raids your daughter's house and you lose an election in which your opponent has funding from all over the United States. No one's ever heard of this guy. He's got more money and you're out of Congress. Und ich begann zu denken, vielleicht war das ein Setup.
Also dachte ich, ich würde dich fragen. and why I care about 9-11 so much. I was at 9-11, not 9-11, I was at Trade Center 93 at the invitation of Fire Commissioner Howard Safer to go up there and learn about what had occurred the first time they attacked us. And they introduced me to a young fire officer, former Marine, five kids, named Ray Downey. He became one of my best friends.
Ray told me what he thought we should do. I took his advice seriously and wrote the legislation to create the Gilmore Commission. The Gilmore Commission was chaired by Virginia Governor Jim Gilmore, a man of integrity. I had him on a podcast last September for 20 minutes. And the Gilmore Commission's recommendations were largely what the 9-11 Commission took credit for after the fact.
One of those recommendations was to have a fusion center of intelligence be put together. At the time I was doing this on behalf of the firefighters. Vielen Dank. Yes, which was the first bombing of the World Trade Center. Und als Resultat ging ich zu John Hammery, der Verteidigungsvorsitzende von Clinton. Und ich sagte, John, du musst sehen, was sie da unten machen. Er hat es gemacht.
Er hat mich angerufen und gesagt, du hast recht, Herr Präsident. Und zum Beispiel hat John Hammery mich für Präsident der Kommitee im Jahr 2000 eingeladen, so wie Rumsfeld. Das war vor 9-11, offensichtlich. Beide haben mich öffentlich eingeladen. Ich hatte ihre Letters.
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Chapter 3: What happened during the FBI raid on Weldon's daughter?
Und er sagte, aber du musst die CIA und die FBI überzeugen, dass wir ihre rauen Daten nutzen, weil es 33 klassifizierte Systeme gibt. Und wenn sie uns nicht ihre Daten nutzen lassen, wird das nicht funktionieren. Am 4. November 1999 in meinem Büro in der Rayburn-Bildung hatte ich John Hamry, Verteidigungssekretär der Defense.
Ich hatte den Verteidigungssekretär der FBI und ich hatte ihre Namen und den Verteidigungssekretär der CIA. And we talked about the NOAA, National Operation Analysis Hub, Policymaker and Warfighters Tool to deal with emerging transnational terrorist threats, the Fusion Center. Henry said, we need this. I'll manage it. I said, I'll get it funded. The FBI said, great, we're all in.
And the CIA said, we don't want it. We're not supporting it. We're doing something called CI-21 on our own. I spent two years traveling around the country, giving speeches at intelligence forums, calling for a fusion center. I put language in two successive defense bills, calling for a fusion center. 9-11 happens.
Chapter 4: Did the CIA lie about Osama bin Laden's location?
I get frantic calls from four of those professional staffers at the Able Danger Team, which I later learned was the name of this group at Fort Belvoir. We have to see you right away, Mr. Chairman. Scott Philpott, Annapolis grad, Navy career officer, commander of four ships, pleading with me to meet. Tony Schaefer, Lieutenant Colonel, Bronze Star recipient, spy for the military.
Eileen Pricer, Air Force career intelligence officer, expert on computers. And Eric Kleinsmith. I met with each of them privately. They all told me the same story. And they rolled out the charts that I just showed you. Those charts I will make public now because they are not classified. I showed them when I testified before the Senate hearing.
We identified every cell of Al-Qaeda in the world the year before 9-11. We identified the New York cell a year before 9-11. We knew there was going to be a problem. The Able Danger team tried to go to the FBI and Justice Department three times. We have the names. All three times they were stopped. We have the names of the person, the FBI, that was told to deny the meetings.
They were not allowed to transfer the information. That information, when I came out with my book, Louis Freeh, former FBI director, wrote in an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal and said on Good Morning America, could have prevented 9-11 from happening. That's not me saying that. That's Louis Freeh and General Keith Lambert.
Our general in charge of special operations on horseback was asked in this award-winning book, became a movie, on page 27, General, what were your thoughts when 9-11 happened? And he said, within seconds I knew who had done the attack and I knew it involved Mohammed Atta.
Thirdly, after this all broke and I came out with my book criticizing the agency and started really going crazy protecting these brave heroes that were being abused by defense intelligence. The Inspector General for the Pentagon files a whistleblower paper. I have a copy of it. I'll give it to you. His name is John Crane.
He asked for protection because his bosses in DIA refused to allow him to become a whistleblower when he told them that he was told to lie to the Congress. He was told to misinform the Congress. I have that in writing, Tucker. The 9-11 Commission is a cover-up. 1,000% cover-up. Zelikow war der Führer des Cover-Ups.
Philipp Zelikow war der Trainer.
Philipp Zelikow. Er wurde von Condoleezza Rice ausgewählt. Als Tony Schäfer Zelikow in Afghanistan treffen konnte, Because Zelikow took a team through to see if there were soldiers who had maybe encountered some information about 9-11 in advance. Tony Schaefer had been back deployed in Afghanistan at the time.
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Chapter 5: How did the Deep State undermine Weldon's career?
He said, Congressman, the only thing they wanted out of my book was the fact that I named Zelikow and that I had briefed him in advance. That, Tucker, is treason! That means our agencies.
Our agencies use their position not for something involving our national security, but for involving a cover-up of a person's identity who was publicly approved by the Congress of the United States, appointed by the security advisor to President Bush. It's a massive cover-up.
At what point following 9-11, since I just want to restate, you served in Congress for about 20 years, I think. And you really were at the heart of these questions, national security questions in the Congress. You were about to become chairman of armed services. So you're at the top of the pyramid for receiving relevant intelligence. At what point, you weren't just some random guy at all.
At what point after 9-11, the attacks of that day, did you realize there's something bad going on here?
Well, it started before 9-11 when I realized that the intelligence I was getting as the vice chairman of the committee was not really solid intelligence. I would get better information from Bill Gertz, a reporter that you know, coming to me with anonymous sources leaking to him about Intel matters.
And I would then go to the CIA and say, why am I getting this information from a reporter that I know you're leaking? from classified sources that I'm not getting as a member of Congress, who's the Vice Chairman of the Defense Committee. Are you playing games with me? And they wouldn't answer that. And that's what they do. They play games by manipulating the media to put out a narrative.
And then we have to deal with that narrative. So, Tucker, what I did, there's a group in Washington that was known as the Cockroaches. They're a group of people that work for the intelligence agencies that get along socially. And I knew them all. They trusted me. I formed a loose network of about 15 or 20. We met for breakfast every week in the members' dining room in the Capitol.
And they would feed me raw data. They would feed me raw data, then I would go to the classified briefings using that raw data, and I would ask questions of the CIA in front of the entire committee. And in many cases, I was the acting chairman, because the chairman wasn't there.
So here I am, the acting chairman of the entire committee of armed services that fully embarrassed the intelligence agencies. And I'll get into that when we talk about the 9-11 information and post-9-11, where they put Bin Laden. The point is that the agency plays games with Congress. The Congress thinks it's getting good information and it's not.
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Chapter 6: Was the 9/11 Commission a scam?
The Armed Services Committee. But in Congress, the protocol is you wait. So I have letters, which I can show you, Tucker, from Donald Rumsfeld, endorsing me to become chairman of the Armed Services Committee in 2000. I have a letter from Deputy Secretary of Defense John Henry endorsing me to become chairman of the committee in 2000. Dozens and dozens of letters. Then 9-11 happens.
I felt personally responsible because I knew that we could have prevented it by the information that the Able Danger Team, established by General Hugh Shelton, had gathered and tried to transfer three times and were blocked. So I said, uh-uh. Das ist richtig. I supported George Bush when he said we're going to send our troops over to Afghanistan.
He made those heroic comments about we're going to get them. I took that as a patriotic American and said, yes, we're going to get them. But I was worried about what the Afghans might do as they did the Russian troops when they were in Afghanistan.
So, Tucker, with Al Santoli, whom you know, and two other members of Congress, I privately, without the knowledge of our government or the CIA, I went to Paris. Wir haben den König Zahir Shah getroffen, der König von Afghanistan, der mit seiner Familie in Paris lebt. Wir haben ihn getroffen, um ihn zurück in Kabul zu konvenieren, um eine Loya Jorga der ganzen Triebe zu konvenieren.
To convince them to accept the American troops before they went in, so it wouldn't be like they did with Russia. King Zahir Shah agreed to that. I'll give you the photographs, Tucker. And I had two members of Congress and Al Santoli with me, decorated Vietnam veteran. Zahir Shah went back. I did all I could to protect our American troops, not the CIA, our troops.
Then I find out, my intel team, those 20 people that were feeding me raw data, Give me data within months after 9-11. That bin Laden's been sighted in a town called Ladiz. I have no idea where Ladiz is. So I go up Pennsylvania Avenue to a bookstore and buy a map. I just gave you the map here today, Tucker. You can show it. And I found Ladiz. It's not in Afghanistan. It's not in Pakistan.
It's in Iran. In an area called Balochistan. So I go to the next classified briefing for the full committee. Now I'm the Vice Chairman of the full committee. There are 60 members. I'm the acting chairman at this time. So I said to the CIA, I have information of bin Ladens in Ladiz. This is their response to me. Mr. Chairman, we've heard similar reports. We can either confirm or deny them.
I was in shock. I was in shock. We're sending kids to die in Afghanistan and we can't confirm or deny whether or not bin Ladens in Ladiz... Three months go by. I'm still supporting the president. My intel team comes back to me and say, Kurt, he's being treated at a military hospital outside of Tehran. I go back to the classified briefing and I ask the question in front of the full committee.
And the answer from the CIA is, Mr. Chairman, we've heard similar reports. We can either confirm or deny that Bin Laden is being treated at a military hospital outside of Tehran while we're sending kids to die in Afghanistan. I said, this is outrageous. And then, Tucker, I get a call from Jack Murtha, the most respected Democrat in the House, former Marine, who I work with closely.
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