The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker & Piers Morgan Debate Foreign Aid, Hate Speech, NATO, Gun Control, & Is Zelensky a Dictator?
Fri, 31 Jan 2025
A dictator is someone who ignores elections and rules by violence. Zelensky meets that definition but Piers Morgan loves him anyway. (00:00) Why Is Piers Morgan Deeply in Love With Zelensky? (20:20) Zelensky Is Getting Rich From War (25:15) Should NATO Be Abolished? (40:07) Should the US Send Money to Israel? (46:30) Should Putin Be Assassinated? (47:30) The Morality of Nuclear War Paid partnerships with: Liberty Safe: Promo code “Tucker” at https://LibertySafe.com/Tucker Policygenius: Get your free life insurance quotes today at https://Policygenius.com/Tucker Eight Sleep: Get $350 off the Pod 4 Ultra at https://EightSleep.com/Tucker Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Full Episode
Here's Morgan. Thank you. Sorry. Telling off-color jokes off-camera. Thank you so much. No, my pleasure. We are in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. We are. I'm not even going to ask you how you wound up here, but I'm glad to see you.
Well, we're both here for the same reason, actually.
We've both gone into the oil business. Yes. I never, yeah. So I want to ask you, I want to start just on a very hostile note, okay? Because I feel like that's a good way to frame it. Good, good. Let's start having me to continue. Zelensky is a hero. How could you say that?
I don't agree with you about him or Ukraine. I went to interview him in Kyiv. And he's an extraordinary story, obviously, this comedian who becomes president, having played a comedian who was a president in a comedy show, right? And I've seen what you said about it.
I mean, what's interesting to me on a bigger picture about Ukraine, Russia, your views, a lot of conservative views in America, is that 30 years ago, there would have been no element of resistance from the conservative side about taking on a Russian dictator who'd invaded a European country. I know it's a lot more complicated.
I know the history, but a lot of very smart people on, a lot of people you've interviewed. And, you know, I do learn a lot each time I talk about all the history, obviously. My brother was a British army colonel. My sister married a British army colonel. They've all engaged in conflicts around the world. And so it's complicated.
There's no doubt that on the Russian side, they believe they were provoked into doing this. I know that you have sympathy with that view. There's also no doubt from the Ukrainian side that they believe since the 90s they've been this sovereign democratic country, albeit not perfect. You think deeply flawed. I think they've been imperfect, trying to improve.
And Zelensky has actually, I think, been a force for good, not bad. But ultimately, what's happened now... is that you have a situation where, as Donald Trump told me recently, it's just the mowing fields now, where you have thousands of young men being killed, often on a daily basis, both sides. And no one's winning this war, it seems to me.
And if anyone is going to win it, it's likely to be Russia, not Ukraine. And then what happens? And that concerns me enormously. If the West allows Putin...
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