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BREAKING: Tucker and Doug Macgregor React to Proposed Ceasefire Deal Between Ukraine and Russia

Wed, 12 Mar 2025

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The Mexican drug cartels are a far greater threat to the United States than China, Russia or Iran, says Doug Macgregor. They’ve got Javelin missile systems on our border, and American officials on their payroll. (00:00) The Ukrainian Drone Strike in Moscow (13:10) Benjamin Netanyahu Wants War With Iran (18:27) Ukraine’s Black Market Arms Dealing (23:00) How Many Have Died in the Ukraine/Russia War? (40:02) Can Europe Be Saved? Paid partnerships with: Silencer Central: Promo code Tucker10 for 10% off your purchase of banish suppressors at https://www.silencercentral.com  PureTalk: Switch your cell phone service to a company you can be PROUD to do business with. https://PureTalk.com/Tucker PreBorn: To donate please dial pound two-fifty and say keyword "BABY" or visit https://preborn.com/TUCKER Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Chapter 1: What are the implications of the Ukrainian drone strike in Moscow?

0.629 - 30.282 Tucker Carlson

It feels like we're on the brink of something really catastrophic. I kind of can't shake that feeling. And by catastrophic, I mean some kind of global war. Hope that's not true. But let's just start with what just happened, which is a drone attack on Moscow by the Ukrainians that killed a number of Russians in Moscow. Who did that, why, and what are its effects?

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53.695 - 64.364 Doug Macgregor

Well, that's an important question. I think the Russians are disappointed in us. because they detect that we're sincere in terms of wanting to end this conflict.

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64.725 - 66.566 Tucker Carlson

Trump is sincere. I mean, that's true.

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66.726 - 88.242 Doug Macgregor

But they don't understand why he does not act to remove this regime, remove this man Zelensky and put a stop to it. There's this constant drumbeat about a ceasefire. Well, the Russians are highly organized and disciplined. They can stop whenever it makes sense to do so. The Ukrainians are not in the same category. They seem to be a rogue organization now.

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89.108 - 105.28 Doug Macgregor

You know, we've got, what, 200,000 of them here in the United States, and I don't know how many thousands of them are working for the SBU, the Ukrainian secret police, that are now running around threatening everyone that has criticized Ukraine or opposed support for Ukraine.

105.703 - 122.214 Tucker Carlson

And Alex Jones Stafford was just murdered two days ago, who was on some list put together by the Ukrainian government or its supporters of critics. He was murdered outside of his house. I mean, I don't think it's crazy to think, given the number of assassinations they've pulled off or attempted, that he was killed by them. You think that's possible?

122.414 - 142.995 Doug Macgregor

Well, I would be very worried about our president. You know, I think the president is very much at risk. And these people seem to know no sense of limitation. They're capable of anything. So I hope the Secret Service is on its toes. I'm sure Kash Patel is well aware of this in the FBI. I just don't have any good feelings right now about the Ukrainians.

143.095 - 167.642 Doug Macgregor

I think they're done, they're finished, they've lost the war. So all of these are sort of acts of vengeance, if you will, last resort. Hurl whatever you have as deep as you can into Russia and just kill, murder, maim as many Russians as possible. But to what end? Well, to harm Russians and then try to create the illusion that there is some hope for them.

168.382 - 192.419 Doug Macgregor

that they can somehow or another mobilize more manpower and put more forces into the field. They can't. They're really scraping the bottom of the barrel. I think the issue right now is the following. The Russians have the initiative, strategic initiative. This war is effectively at an end as far as they're concerned in terms of having won it. They now have to make some decisions.

Chapter 2: Why is Netanyahu pushing for a war with Iran?

277.327 - 301.592 Doug Macgregor

It's not going to go away. People from the West are always going to try and go in and incite them. So let's march to the Romanian and Polish borders, right to Moldova, and be done with this. In the middle of this, it's President Putin. And President Putin is nothing if not a very judicious person. He's a very thoughtful person. This is someone who does not act impulsively. I'm sure you saw that.

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301.612 - 324.475 Doug Macgregor

I have. Everything is calculated. So he's going to sit there and say, what do I want to do? What makes the most sense for Russia? Set aside the emotion. And he also knows President Trump. And he says, President Trump wants an end to this. So do I. How do I nudge President Trump and say, help us? We want to end this just as much as you do. Help us a little bit.

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325.055 - 350.519 Doug Macgregor

Can't you rid us of this man Zelensky and this little MI6 CIA-supported cabal that surrounds him? Can't you help us with this?" But on the other hand, he's looking at his people and they're saying, don't depend on anything the West promises. Don't believe anything the West says. So march to the Dnieper, cross the river, end this once and for all. This is the decision point.

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350.579 - 371.913 Doug Macgregor

It's a strategic inflection point in the history of Europe because you now have a Russian leader with the power, with the capability to do anything he wants. But this is a Russian who doesn't want to march west. He doesn't want to rule Ukrainians. He's not a fool. He knows those people don't want to be ruled by Russians. So it's a difficult position, but he has to end it.

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372.794 - 393.403 Doug Macgregor

And there's the other danger. It's who knows what comes next. You know, they killed this Russian general. who had a very prominent role, and his name escapes me right now, but he was killed recently. He had a very prominent role in identifying the attempts by the Ukrainians to build a dirty bomb and also to launch attacks on the nuclear power plants.

Chapter 3: Is there evidence of Ukraine's black market arms dealing?

395.184 - 416.387 Doug Macgregor

He knows there are people over there capable of that kind of lunacy. So that also has to figure into his calculus. It's got to be one of the most evil governments in the world. It is. Well, look at what they've done to their own people. I mean, how many of these Ukrainians have died needlessly? The handwriting was on the wall two years ago. Why would you drag this thing out?

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417.367 - 439.882 Doug Macgregor

And Putin has not wanted to drag it out, but he has also not wanted to give people in the West the impression that he's interested in doing anything more than removing the Ukrainian menace. In other words, he's not interested in conquest, doesn't want to march West. I mean, how many times can he and Lavrov say this nonsense and shut up and Applebaum and And the rest of these crazies.

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439.983 - 446.69 Tucker Carlson

Why does Anne Applebaum have any effect on anything? I mean, this is like one of the dumbest people in the United States. I don't understand.

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446.81 - 469.632 Doug Macgregor

Well, she's also married to the Polish foreign minister. And right now, the latest poll says that 86% of the Polish population opposes any Polish participation in a war against Russia. And even Tusk has said, if you think we're joining some sort of contingent to go into Western Ukraine, forget it. We're not going. So I think this whole facade is crumbling.

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470.132 - 478.039 Tucker Carlson

Is there any European population? So there are many European leaders who have suggested, some have said out loud, others have hinted, that they're going to send troops to fight Putin.

Chapter 4: What are the true casualty figures in the Ukraine-Russia war?

479.22 - 479.68 Doug Macgregor

It's absurd.

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479.7 - 482.223 Tucker Carlson

Is there any European population that wants that?

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482.283 - 511.29 Doug Macgregor

No, not a chance. I mean, the British are probably... the furthest from Russia, and they all know what their army consists of today. It's a bad facsimile of what was there 200 years ago. It goes back to Bismarck's famous remark in 1879 that, He was asked by a British journalist, what would you do if the British Army landed on the North German coast? He said, well, I'd have it arrested.

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511.31 - 534.001 Doug Macgregor

And everyone was upset, but he was right. The British Army was about the size that it is now. And the German army at that point numbered, what, 400,000, 600,000 with a capacity to mobilize millions. So this is all nonsense. The same thing is nonsensical in France. All my friends in the French military, and I've got several, have told me, Douglas, this is absurd.

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534.641 - 554.602 Doug Macgregor

You know, the only thing the French army is prepared for is to go on safari in Africa. Yeah, and they're pulling out of there. And, of course, they're pulling out. This is a waste of time, money, and resources, all of it. The issue for Donald Trump is as follows, and I think this is what's most important for him to keep in mind. His instincts are good. If he follows his instincts, he'll be fine.

554.923 - 577.184 Doug Macgregor

He needs to stop listening to the people around him. Number one. Any war that breaks out today involving the United States and Russia, and whether or not we want it to be involved, Russia is involved in the Middle East. Russia is involved in Eastern Europe. Whatever happens, the war will expand. We will end up with multiple enemies arrayed against us.

577.924 - 599.104 Doug Macgregor

China, BRICS in general, and certainly Iran and other states in the Middle East. So the first thing is all wars will expand. So don't start one under any circumstances. It will expand out of control. The second thing is he's going to discover the hard way that we are grossly overstretched and overextended.

599.664 - 622.771 Doug Macgregor

The military, the American military establishment is in no position to fight any kind of long war. Remember we used to talk about the long war that we were supposed to fight? That was all nonsense. If you look at all of the simulations that involve us against Iran or us against any number of great powers, they all end in two weeks. Well, why does the war end in two weeks?

623.511 - 643.569 Doug Macgregor

Because in two weeks, we've exhausted everything that we've got. There's no more ammunition. There are no more missiles, no more rockets. I would say in truth right now, it's closer to one week, maybe 10 days. And we don't have this scientific industrial base with manufacturing capability that is humming along 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

Chapter 5: Can Europe withstand the geopolitical tensions?

833.634 - 855.677 Doug Macgregor

If you look at the map today, he's trying to occupy Syria all the way up to the edge of Damascus. And Erdogan, who is a very clever but slippery character, has already said, forget it. We're not going to tolerate that in southern Syria. So he's pushing the envelope to the very edge. In Damascus, there are three great Islamic cities in the region.

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856.217 - 868.02 Doug Macgregor

One is Cairo, the other is Jerusalem, and then Damascus. They're not going to surrender Damascus to the Israelis. So whatever happens, the Turks will eventually become involved. They'll march in.

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868.5 - 875.923 Tucker Carlson

So, I mean, that creates a kind of structural problem because Turkey is a member of NATO. I don't think so.

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876.303 - 882.126 Doug Macgregor

Because I don't think... I don't think NATO matters. Maybe you're right. I don't think it has for a long time.

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882.686 - 894.254 Tucker Carlson

Well, it matters in a material sense. We just used the name NATO to wage a war against Russia for three years that we lost. Yeah. But that would be the end of NATO, right?

894.274 - 917.42 Doug Macgregor

Well, what we're talking about will end everything that we're accustomed to, the rules-based order, which just means our global hegemony in military and economic terms. Everyone in BRICS is now being forced together. We're forcing cohesion on BRICS as an alternative to our financial system, which we use to bully everybody. So that's all that BRICS is about.

917.46 - 940.819 Doug Macgregor

But now BRICS is going to become increasingly militarized because we're seen as this rogue state that is willing to put everything at risk in order to retain its position of dominance. That's catastrophic for us. We don't want to go down that road. And that's why I think most of us voted for President Trump. We saw him as someone who would say no and diverge from that path.

941.8 - 964.193 Doug Macgregor

But we don't know right now. It's not clear. He has not made it clear what he wants. He has said he wants a settlement with Russia. He wants normalization with Russia. Okay, if you really want that, you've got to act in a way that demonstrates conclusively that you support that. That means end all the military aid right now to the Ukrainians. Period. Done.

964.673 - 969.458 Doug Macgregor

Number two, get all of the Americans out of Ukraine immediately. Everybody.

Chapter 6: How do Mexican drug cartels pose a threat to the US?

2341.65 - 2355.939 Doug Macgregor

And the Russians have no interest in destroying Germany. It's the ruling classes in these countries. They're globalist and they need to be removed. And they will be removed. I'm confident that it will happen. The British have not had a real revolution since Cromwell.

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2356.48 - 2364.905 Doug Macgregor

But I think they've reached the point now where they very much need a Cromwellian figure to clean house because the people ruling them are weak and inept.

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2367.387 - 2369.108 Tucker Carlson

Do you see any path to that happening? No.

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2370.879 - 2378.211 Doug Macgregor

I don't know. I don't know. I haven't been to Britain for many years. Really? No, I have not. I think the last time I was in Britain was 2005.

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2381.874 - 2383.795 Tucker Carlson

Don't go. It'll make you too sad.

2383.815 - 2389.378 Doug Macgregor

Yeah, I mean, you're talking to somebody who worships at the altar of English-speaking civilization.

2389.839 - 2390.159 Tucker Carlson

Me too.

2390.819 - 2413.115 Doug Macgregor

And I don't even want to think about it. But I think there are still enough Scots, Welsh, English, and Irish there who will stand up and be counted. I'm cheered up by somebody like Conor McGregor that stands up and defends Irish national culture, identity, language, everything. All of the Europeans need to come to Jesus on this one. They need to come very, very soon.

2413.715 - 2436.762 Doug Macgregor

And that doesn't mean they're evil. It means that they're defending the one thing that is worth defending, which is their own country, their own nation, their own society. So I hope that that will happen. We need to do the same thing. And that's why I went down to the border. And again, this has nothing to do with whether you love or dislike Mexicans. I'm sorry. Mexicans are fine.

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