The Tucker Carlson Show
Dr. Richard Bosshardt Reveals Deadly Truth: Most Surgeons Aren’t Fit to Practice. Here’s Why.
Fri, 28 Feb 2025
Dr. Richard Bosshardt has been a board certified surgeon for nearly 40 years. He’s watched the DEI race crazies lower the standards to such a frightening degree that he no longer trusts doctors. (00:00) Bosshardt’s War on DEI Within the Medical Industry (04:47) The Left’s Mission to Segregate Surgeons (11:03) Why They Banned Bosshardt From the American College of Surgeons (24:41) How the Left Has Criminally Lowered the Standards for Surgeons (33:00) The Next Generation of Surgeons Is Doomed Paid partnerships with: Eight Sleep: Get $350 off the Pod 4 Ultra at https://EightSleep.com/Tucker Jase Medical: Promo code “Tucker” for extra discount at https://Jasemedical.com Hallow prayer app: Get 3 months free at https://Hallow.com/Tucker Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: What is Dr. Bosshardt's stance on DEI in the medical field?
So let me ask you, you, 2022, became famous for a day or two because you got into it with the American College of Surgeons?
I'm still into it with them, yes. You're still into it with them? It's approaching its third year.
Its third year. Can you just give us a quick reminder of what that Contra Trump was about, what happened? Sure.
I am a surgeon. I'm a plastic surgeon, but I was a general surgeon for a while. One of the things that I did after I became a surgeon was to apply for fellowship in the American College of Surgeons, which is an honorary sort of a thing to have attached to yourself. If you become a fellow, you're allowed to put the letters F-A-C-S after your name. Yes. and something I sought to do.
So I became a fellow on the ACS, American College of Surgeons, and went along for 30 plus years as a practicing surgeon doing my thing. And then what happened was in and around 2018, 2019, you could say I woke up. I realized that there was something going on in my area of surgery.
And it began with a transcript of a lecture by an invited lecturer to the American College of Surgeons Clinical Congress that they have every year. The lecture was titled, A Pathway to Diversity, Inclusion, and Excellence. That was the title of the lecture. And for reasons that I can't explain, I read it. I wouldn't normally have done that, but I read the entire transcript. I read it twice.
And not once was excellence mentioned in there. And so I wrote a commentary that was actually published in the bulletin of the ACS, where I expressed some concerns about taking down excellence as the primary directive for surgery, for surgeons, and replacing it with diversity, inclusion. At that time, the equity, they didn't throw that in there. And that commentary didn't really do much.
So fast forward a couple of years, and you have COVID, which, you know, its own thing. And then you have the George Floyd killing. And I think you could realistically say that the country went crazy after George Floyd. I mean, everything from riots and whatnot to this pandemic.
mass movement to adopt the idea that the country was systemically racist, and every institution, every organization was racist, and we had to radically transform the country. And the American College of Surgeons was no different. They jumped right on that bandwagon.
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Chapter 2: Why was Dr. Bosshardt banned from the American College of Surgeons?
Not—that would be pretty extreme.
No, I'm joking. I mean, like, where was the racism in surgery?
It's almost as bad, Tucker. The idea is that— Well, let me take that step. They claim that surgeons were racist, that the ACS itself was racist, and that the practice of surgery was racist. And the reason why they made that last claim was because there are known disparities.
We know that the outcomes for surgery are not as good statistically for, we'll just call it black and white because it just makes it easier to deal with that. That is not as good for blacks as it is for whites. And so the idea is that there's some element of racism or discrimination that impacts the outcome of surgery.
And, of course, if you take that to the next step, it means that, you know, blacks are not getting as good care. Their surgery is not being as done as well and whatever. There's a whole lot of reasons why you can have disparate outcomes. But this was the one reason that they latched on to, and they have never let go. And then, have you heard of the term racial concordance? No.
Okay, that's a really important concept. And this is something that's being promoted by the ACS. The ACS has explicitly stated that blacks would do better if their surgeon is black. As simple as that.
It's a racial concordance that you are going to receive better care by a doctor, surgeon or other doctor, if they are of your same race, ethnicity, gender, that you might get better care, pardon me, better care if you're a woman by a female surgeon, for example. And they've hung on to that as well.
So that was the idea behind segregation in the South, of course.
Well, that's the whole thing. They're trying to redo that.
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Chapter 3: How does racial concordance relate to surgical outcomes?
Honestly, you may have to go back to universities where people are being indoctrinated in all this social justice stuff where they feel that that's more important than what they're doing. You know, the young doctors think that righting historic wrongs is more important than taking care of the patient in front of them. And you can't practice medicine that way. That's just not medicine.
So it can be fixed. It's going to be a generational problem. It's going to take a long time. We're going to be seeing the effects of this and paying the price for these policies and these ideologies for probably my lifetime, I suspect. Which brings up the issue, you know, I'm a healthy guy, but every one of us is going to be someday needing a doctor. And I don't know who I'm going to go to.
I somewhat semi-seriously told friends and family, I said, don't go to a surgeon or a doctor under 40 because they've been indoctrinated. Some of these guys are still wearing masks, for Pete's sakes. Masks? Oh, yeah, there's some physicians that still mask, you know, patients and things like that. It's just crazy. There's crazy stuff out there, Tucker.
So if you're a doctor, I mean, and you're openly mentally ill like that, why doesn't anybody? No, I don't mean that as an attack. I'm saying that with sympathy. It's a great question. Why doesn't anyone in the physician's group or the hospital say something?
Well, first off, there's too few doctors. I mean, there's so few that a lot of these guys, guys, men, women, whatever, a lot of doctors are there because there's just not enough doctors. I mean, if you try to get a doctor recently and make an appointment, just a routine appointment, you're talking months down the road. You need something more urgently. Good luck with that.
You'll probably end up going to an energy care center where you'll see a nurse practitioner or PA or someone that's got a fraction of the education experience of a physician. So it's not a real... There's not a simple cure for all of this. One thing I wanted to try to do with this conversation is not just simply badmouth my organization, the ACS, or badmouth medicine and surgery.
I'm devastated by what's happened. I really want surgery to be elevated to where it should be, which is a very highly regarded profession that is dedicated itself to taking care of all comers, regardless. We don't judge on who or what you are when you're in front of us and you've got a problem that we're trained to fix. My solutions, my first solution, obviously, is get DEI out of medicine.
Politics and ideology do not belong in medicine.
The Soviets proved that.
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