The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Russ Vought Break Down DOGE and All of Trump’s Cabinet Picks So Far
Mon, 18 Nov 2024
Russ Vought ran OMB under Trump the first time, and hopefully will again. Here’s what he learned about how the deep state actually works. (00:00) What is the Office of Management and Budget? (07:57) How Our Intel Agencies Overrule the President (34:21) What Will the Congressional Hearings Look Like for Trump’s Appointees? (42:18) The Evil Think Tanks Trying to Undermine You (49:48) They’re Trying to Leave Trump With WWIII (58:06) The Root Problem of Government Corruption PreBorn Save babies and souls https://PreBorn.com/Tucker Liberty Safe https://LibertySafe.com/Tucker Promo code “Tucker” PureTalk https://PureTalk.com/Tucker Get 50% off first month Alp Pouch Shop now at https://AlpPouch.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: What is the Office of Management and Budget?
So you ran OMB before and you don't have to comment on this. It sounds like you are very likely to run OMB again. Tell us what OMB is for those who aren't from Washington, what it does and what you would do with it.
Chapter 2: How do our intel agencies overrule the President?
So OMB is the nerve center of the federal government, particularly the executive branch. So it has the ability to turn on and off any spending within the— Office of Management and Budget. Office of Management and Budget. It has the ability to turn off the spending that's going on at the agencies.
Chapter 3: What will the Congressional hearings look like for Trump’s appointees?
It has all the regulations coming through it to assess whether it's good or bad or too expensive or could be done a different way or what does the president think. and then all of government execution. So anytime you have cabinet executive branches conflicting with each other or working together on something, for instance, you know, the wall, the president wanted to fund the wall.
Chapter 4: What are the evil think tanks trying to undermine our democracy?
We at OMB gave him a plan to be able to go and fund the wall through money that was at the Department of Defense and to use that because Congress wouldn't give him the ordinary money at the Department of Homeland Security. So it really is, presidents use OMB to tame the bureaucracy, the administrative state.
Chapter 5: Why are they trying to leave Trump with WWIII?
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Chapter 6: What is the root problem of government corruption?
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Chapter 7: How do you overcome the resistance of bureaucracies?
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Chapter 8: What should be the focus of the next Republican administration?
It was really pioneered, honestly, by FDR. And then President Nixon also was really learning from FDR on how to use it to tame the bureaucracy. And we would have seen that- Did he create the office, Roosevelt? The office was formerly the Bureau of the Budget for the last 100 years, right?
And then Nixon renames it Office of Management and Budget, and it becomes kind of more of a statutory thing, reporting directly to the president, no longer within Treasury. And so since then, you've had it – Still there, still really important, viewed by the country largely as a budget cutting exercise.
But it is it is the president's most important tool to dealing with the bureaucracy, administrative state. And, you know, the nice thing about President Trump is he knows that and he knows how to use it effectively.
So you can't get any of your domestic policy done without OMB, it sounds like.
No. You will be in a situation where you will have, at best, really awesome cabinet secretaries who are dealing on, sitting on top of massive bureaucracies that largely don't do what they tell them to do. And you have to have statutory tools at your disposal that force that bureaucracy from the White House to get in line.
And that is really the main thing that OMB can accomplish in addition to what everyone would think of from a budget office, which is, yeah, you cut spending, you figure out how to deal with your fiscal finances and all of that.
You're making me anxious. I mean, I can't handle a disobedient dog. I can't imagine what a disobedient federal agency looks like. How resistant are they to democracy?
They're incredibly resistant. I mean, think about Ukraine and the president in that first term wanted to cut off funding for Ukraine. Why? Because it's a corrupt country and we didn't know how it was going to be spent. It's totally normal policy process to go through that the people lost their minds about. But the bureaucracy was literally just ignoring it.
And quite frankly, his political appointees like John Bolton were ignoring him as well. And what we then did at OMB was I had been personally told, look, you know, I want the money cut off until we can figure out where it's going. And we cut the money off. And it was like all hell broke loose within the bureaucracy. We got impeached. Yeah. And so.
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