The Tucker Carlson Show
Captain Sherry Walker Reveals the Real Reason for All These Plane Crashes
Mon, 24 Mar 2025
Sherry Walker has been a commercial airline pilot for almost 35 years. She says DEI has so completely undermined safety standards that pilots are sometimes afraid to leave the cockpit for fear of what their co-pilots will do unattended. (00:00) Why Are All These Planes Crashing? (04:26) DEI Pilot Training (12:41 What Caused the Plane/Helicopter Crash That Killed 67 in DC? (15:06) FAA Corruption (27:02) The Next Generation of Pilots (36:00) Transgender Pilots Paid partnerships with: Masa Chips: Get 20% off first-time orders with code TUCKER at https://masachips.com/discount/TUCKER PureTalk: Switch your cell phone service to a company you can be PROUD to do business with. https://PureTalk.com/Tucker PreBorn: To donate please dial pound two-fifty and say keyword "BABY" or visit https://preborn.com/TUCKER Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: Why are planes crashing more frequently?
So you've been flying for a living since 1991, so that's almost 35 years, which is amazing. For the rest of us, we're about the same age. It seems like commercial air travel in the United States has declined in, like, at a shocking rate. It's just much worse. A lot of things have gotten better. We have the Internet and iPhones. Why is commercial air travel in this country...
and not around the world, but in this country specifically, like much worse than it was. What is that? Well, I think,
Legitimately, there's been a corporate change in this country. ESG started to take over. You've got the Larry Finks of the world that are driving corporations or CEOs toward issues that not necessarily are customer oriented.
Chapter 2: How does DEI affect pilot training and safety?
Yeah. So when... Oh, ESG doesn't help the customer?
Well, not the internal customer anyway. So as we go through this process, this slow creep, those need to set an investment score. People with differing ideas of customer service and what's important are able to drive forward their message. So we get away from customer service. Airlines run on three things, right? They run on fuel, planes, and people. When we start taking...
The people out of the mix, right, because it's all about buy more airplanes. It's about driving that score so we can drive the share prices so that we can then get the lower financing rate to get airplanes. We go away from that time when a Gordon Bethune or a Herb Kelleher said, you take care of your internal people. They'll take care of your customer. So everything's bottom line now, Tucker.
And yet ESG is not really, like, strictly speaking, bottom line. It pleases Larry Fink, who's probably done more than any person to really hurt this country, but sidebar. But it, you know, for your average customer, you're like, well, You get the feeling that like incompetent people are in air traffic control, incompetent people are in the cockpit.
I don't know if that's true or not, but it shakes people's faith, scares the crap out of people. And then planes start crashing and you're like, that's why. That seems like against the core interests of the business.
I would agree, but because people at the corporate level want to drive the interest rates down to be able to grow because it's all about expanding, who is the biggest, right? And so they have to follow some of those mandates.
Yes.
And so then we start looking at a particular CEO who said in 21, 50% of my incoming pilots will be women or people of color. First of all, that number is impossible. They don't exist.
But when you take merit out of it and you start hiring people based on an attribute that has nothing to do with flying airplanes or controlling them, you start moving down a path of incompetence and it breeds itself all the way down throughout every department in the airline.
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Chapter 3: What happened in the DC plane/helicopter crash?
But they panic under pressure.
Mm-hmm.
So that seems like a huge problem if you're not screening carefully for temperament, ability to think clearly under duress, and you're not allowing people to accumulate relevant experience before turning over the cockpit to them, no?
I would agree.
Describe, if you don't mind, since you've flown for so long, a scenario where something goes wrong unexpectedly and you have to think independently from the autopilot.
Well, the most dangerous part of your flight, most people don't know it, is takeoff in a jet.
Yeah. Why? Why is it most dangerous?
As we get to the end of the runway at critical speed, V1 we call it, V1, liftoff, the airplane is at full power and you have an engine failure. Now you have asymmetrical thrust. And so it's very critical to lower the nose, do the proper steps. And a lot of times there's critical terrain. So we have a path we have to fly and a lot of things are happening very quickly.
And so doing it by the book, it's what we train for over and over and over again.
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Chapter 4: Is FAA corruption impacting aviation safety?
It's not what I think happened.
So DCA, the plane that hit the helicopter over the Potomac.
Right, the helicopter that hit the airplane over the Potomac.
DCA being the in-town airport in Washington.
Sorry, I shouldn't speak in language.
Washington Reagan National.
Thank you. Now, I know what I know from watching the NTSB press conference.
Yes.
And the chairwoman was speaking. She explained several things. It's only preliminary. No blame was assigned at this point. I have my personal belief on blame. But the design of the system failed those passengers, okay? The way that route through there was designed, they looked back for 11 years, 945 plus thousand potential incursions in 11 years. My teeth hit the floor.
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Chapter 5: How is the next generation of pilots being trained?
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We do too. So here's what we know, just to go back to the DCA crash for a minute, because it's... And all I know is what she said in her press conference.
It is, it was astounding.
Why don't we know who was flying the helicopter?
I'm sure they do, based on, I mean, the voices, one was a female, one was a male, right? So the flying pilot is never the talking pilot. So just listening to the tapes, you could tell if it's a female voice, then the male was flying. If it was a male voice, the female was flying. So I don't know.
Why the hesitance to assign blame? All these people died?
Oh, no, no. It's not hesitance to assign blame. This is the initial, right? This is just the fact piece. It takes up to a year. They go through all the flight data. We don't know if she was off her location because of mechanical failure. Right. You know, we all want the answer as to why, but we in the industry want the fix.
Of course.
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Chapter 6: What concerns exist about transgender pilots?
Remarkable.
Some people think it is involving, you know, a gust, a last minute shear. But I don't see the ailerons moving on the wings to counteract that. So I still think it has something to do with just a little bit of situational awareness at the end. We'll know. We'll know in 30 days.
So if you're moving people through the process at accelerated speed, both for ideological reasons and for practical reasons.
Right. You got to fill the seats.
Yeah. and you're hiring on the basis of a relevant criteria, then inevitably you're going to get a reduced skill level. Like, how could you not?
Especially when the pilots are more worried about their rock videos and they're part of a clique, if you've seen it. The girls at Endeavor embarrassed me.
I missed this.
You didn't see the video.
No, but I could tell.
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