Mark Halperin

Hey everybody, I'm Mark Halpert, and this is NextUp.

We're in either time of peace or time of war, hard to know.

I'm the editor-in-chief of Two-Way, live interactive video platform, your host here.

Do everything NextUp for all Nexters to convene, to visit, to celebrate the complexities of life and the complexity of news.

Glad you're here.

to uh make you happy you joined and invested the time together we have lots to go on first my reported monologue on what i'm calling the fog of peace or the fog of ceasefire um this is an extremely uh confusing moment in the war uh by the time you hear this maybe it'll be more confusing maybe less but i'm gonna walk you through uh from talking to my sources why it is that things are so confusing right now on a range of issues

then we'll unveil a new segment here uh last episode i unveiled my april edition of eight for 28 the most likely democratic nominees and uh got some lovely feedback and maybe some feedback less lovely

We're calling this segment 8 for 28 Hate.

A little tongue-in-cheek, but going to go through some of the feedback I got.

Some very constructive and some more pointed, I would say.

Maybe some even brutal to what you all thought, what Nexters think about the rankings.

Some of you think they're spot on, some of you less so.

so i'll show you some of what the community is saying about where they think i'm wrong uh on this this month and then joined by great guest somebody i've followed and respected a long time jonathan turley he's the author of the new book rage in the republic the unfinished story of the american revolution we're in a celebratory year even though there's a lot of dark things going on 250th anniversary of america and jonathan has written a book to match the moment

about some of the founders of this country and how their lessons very much apply to some of the complexities we're grappling with now.

Also talk to Jonathan about some of the legal issues that are swirling out there around the Trump administration and our politics, our government.

So let's get into it.

Let's talk about the fog of peace.

So difficult for me to do reporting now.

This is one of these situations where my sources are almost as likely to ask me questions about what I'm hearing.

as they are to tell me things, because even the most well-informed people are having trouble keeping up.