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The Charlie Kirk Show

How Do You Send 14 Million People Home?

Thu, 10 Apr 2025

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Trump is fresh off a big SCOTUS win on immigration, but 14 million is a lot of illegals to remove. Mark Krikorian of the Center for Immigration Studies explains the barriers to faster deportation and how the Trump Admin can clear the way. Plus, Ken Paxton discusses his Senate challenge against RINO John Cornyn, and Eric Metaxas reflects on the life of Dietrich Bonhoeffer 80 years after his heroic death fighting against Hitler. Watch ad-free on members.charliekirk.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Chapter 1: Who are the featured guests in this episode?

0.069 - 15.233 Charlie Kirk

Hey, everybody. We've got Ken Paxton, Mark Kerkorian, and Eric Metaxas. Three powerful interviews, primarying John Cornyn, securing the southern border, and Dietrich Bonhoeffer. Great topics, great conversation. Email us, freedom at charliekirk.com. Buckle up, everybody. Here we go. Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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15.293 - 20.834 Mark Halperin

Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus. I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

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20.874 - 34.418 Donald Trump

Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks. I want to thank Charlie. He's an incredible guy. His spirit, his love of this country. He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.

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34.458 - 56.267 Charlie Kirk

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56.788 - 85.93 Charlie Kirk

Learn how you could protect your wealth with Noble Gold Investments at noblegoldinvestments.com. That is noblegoldinvestments.com. It's where I buy all of my gold. Go to noblegoldinvestments.com. In Texas, there is some breaking news. You have John Cornyn, who's been around for quite a while. John Cornyn has had some very, let's say, questionable votes in the last couple of years.

86.19 - 104.643 Charlie Kirk

And primary him is Ken Paxton, the attorney general. of Texas. And he joins us right now. Ken, welcome to the program. It's a major announcement. People can support you at KenPaxton.com. Tell us why you are primarying the incumbent Republican Senator John Cornyn from the state of Texas.

104.983 - 110.288 Ken Paxton

First of all, thanks for having me on. It's nice that you get to sit in your seat. Usually I'm sitting in your seat when you interview me.

110.689 - 111.449 Charlie Kirk

That's right.

112.791 - 135.351 Ken Paxton

So yeah, so I've been watching John Conner, obviously, very close to the situation in Texas. And it's been disappointing, not just to me, but to our primary voters. Two years ago, three years ago, he went on stage at the Republican convention. And for 30 straight minutes, he got booed. He had just worked to pass this restrictive gun legislation, worked with Joe Biden.

Chapter 2: Why is Ken Paxton challenging John Cornyn for the Senate?

1475.896 - 1500.848 Charlie Kirk

Here's the other really important and good thing. The border is sealed, and so we're not adding to the problem. We just have to deal with the incumbent. I don't want to say occupying force, but the incumbent entrenched problem here domestically. Where else can we choke point this? What other NGOs can we doge or be defunding? And how do we crush sanctuary cities once and for all?

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1501.408 - 1524.575 Mark Halperin

Well, the first point is, yes, the border is the regular, the land border is mostly sealed. That's, you know, that's done. But there's lots of people coming in on visas legally and then just not leaving. So the illegal population isn't just, in other words, it's not just a matter of trying to reduce people, get people here to leave. It is still going to be growing.

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1524.635 - 1548.55 Mark Halperin

And so that's a problem that DHS has to deal with. As far as other choke points, you know, the driver's licenses, we've got to get this real ID deadline passed so that illegal immigrants can can't get regular driver's licenses. Only in certain states can they get basically illegal alien driver's licenses, is what amounts.

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1549.21 - 1575.59 Mark Halperin

Sanctuary cities is hard enough to crack because the 10th Amendment, according to the Supreme Court, says the feds can't cut off money for illegal alien driver's licenses. purposes that aren't related to that grant money. In other words, you can't say you're a sanctuary city, so no more highway funds or education funds for you. All they can do is cut off Justice Department grants.

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1575.73 - 1588.171 Mark Halperin

And they're trying to do that. Most of these big cities couldn't care less. They're like, keep the money. We're going to keep protecting illegal immigrant criminals. So Sanctuary cities are a tough nut to crack.

1588.271 - 1603.514 Mark Halperin

I'm not really sure without Congress acting, the administration can really, you know, rein them in and end this outrageous nullification, really, of federal law that sanctuary cities represent.

1603.534 - 1610.716 Charlie Kirk

It's really well said. Mark, tell the audience about the work you guys do at the Center for Immigration Studies and the top projects you're working on.

1611.121 - 1632.407 Mark Halperin

We're a think tank in DC, CIS.org. We're the only think tank on this. There's a couple of other good organizations on low immigration and controlling the borders, but they're more citizen action advocacy groups. We're the only research group on this. And we've got all kinds of stuff coming. We have a report coming out probably next week on how

1633.408 - 1649.461 Mark Halperin

Immigration is not a solution to the birth rate issue, is that if you're going to have, you know, if you're going to have birth rates to come back up, immigration is not a solution. In fact, it probably hurts it. And to see, you know, everything we do, you can sign up for our email. We don't bother you too much.

Chapter 3: What are Ken Paxton's main criticisms of John Cornyn?

1965.763 - 1990.104 Senator Eric Schmitt

insane in case you haven't covered that subject they did everything they could to crush the film so the film is now on amazon prime it's on apple tv it's you can find it almost everywhere but it's a genuinely great film and it kind of takes my breath away charlie that the left is so crazy that they would try to harm a film like this about a man who gave his life for the jews of europe because of his christian faith that's where we are but that's what they did

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1990.905 - 2014.282 Charlie Kirk

Why do you think, Eric, out of all of the 20th century quote-unquote heroes that we teach our kids, Bonhoeffer is de-emphasized in academia. It is de-emphasized in our media. Why is Bonhoeffer not as much of a household name as some of the other great titans and heroes of Western civilization? What do you attribute that to?

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2014.662 - 2037.008 Senator Eric Schmitt

Well, there are a couple of reasons. The first one, and this is, of course, what attracted me to his story, because my mother grew up in Nazi Germany. So when I heard about the story of a pastor who, because of his faith in Jesus, spoke up for the Jews, a pastor and a theologian who, because of his Christian faith, spoke out against Adolf Hitler, I thought, whoa. courage, amazing courage.

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2037.529 - 2049.54 Senator Eric Schmitt

But that is kind of why most people don't know about Bonhoeffer, because he was explicitly Christian. And in fact, people on the left who do praise him, they kind of make it sound like, well, he was sort of an agnostic at the end of his life. Complete baloney.

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2049.6 - 2062.805 Senator Eric Schmitt

And the reason the left hates me is because in my biography on him, I make it clear that his Christian faith was deepened, if anything, at the end of his life. Just the opposite. They kind of act like he slid into this, like, ethical humanism.

2062.825 - 2082.977 Senator Eric Schmitt

I was watching Charlie Rose, like, I don't know, 15 years ago, and Christopher Hitchens was debating, you know, and somebody said, well, what about Bonhoeffer's faith? And he goes, oh, Bonhoeffer's not a Christian. He was a humanist. Complete lie. So the left has tried to make him out to be sort of a Christian, not a Christian, and his Christianity makes them uncomfortable.

2083.017 - 2102.255 Senator Eric Schmitt

So in my book, of course, his Christianity is front and center, not because it's my book, but because that's who Bonhoeffer was. So that's one of the reasons that his heroism makes some people uncomfortable. But right now, the reason the left tried to crush the film It's because they no longer feel comfortable even standing up for Jews.

2102.475 - 2125.291 Senator Eric Schmitt

They think, well, that's kind of too close to worshiping Netanyahu or standing up for Israel. We stand with the Palestinians. We're in an insane world. And I can't overstate it, Charlie. They worked overtime to crush this film in November. I mean, it was really shocking to me that a film that your average liberal would love the film. This is not some MAGA version of Bonhoeffer's Life.

2125.331 - 2140.142 Senator Eric Schmitt

It's a film for everybody. They just pulled out all the stops to destroy it. And that's how sick they are. I mean, they are sawing off the limb that they're sitting on. And we see them doing that on other issues, just happy to destroy the country, destroy the economy.

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