The Megyn Kelly Show
Tulsi Gabbard on Investigating the Leaks, Fighting the Deep State, and Whether She'll Run in 2028 | Ep. 1061
Thu, 1 May 2025
Megyn Kelly is joined by Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard for an exclusive to discuss her new role in the Trump administration, the vacuum of leadership and deep rot in the intel community, her fight against the Deep State, her push for transparency and accountability through declassification, her work on getting to the origins of COVID, her partnership with RFK Jr. and Jay Bhattacharya to see how gain-of-function research connects to the COVID pandemic, what she's learning about whether Dr. Fauci lied under oath, the illegal leaks coming out about internal Iran discussions, the pressure to act against Iran from inside the intel community and the forces in the GOP, the status of the leaks investigations, Trump's courage to choose peace, why the cartels are her number one security concern facing America, how the Biden administration made the challenges much harder, the failures of the war on drugs, the Ukraine mineral deal the Trump administration signed today, Dems refusing to support it, all the Ukraine money that could have helped Hawaii and North Carolina, whether she could run for president in 2028, how she found herself endorsing Trump and in a Trump administration, what qualities she admires about him, and more. Birch Gold: Text MK to 989898 and get your free info kit on goldSimpliSafe: Visit https://simplisafe.com/MEGYN to claim 50% off & your first month free!120Life: Go to https://120Life.com and use code MK to save 15%FYSI: https://FYSI.com/Megyn or call 800-877-4000Follow The Megyn Kelly Show on all social platforms:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/MegynKellyTwitter: http://Twitter.com/MegynKellyShowInstagram: http://Instagram.com/MegynKellyShowFacebook: http://Facebook.com/MegynKellyShow Find out more information at: https://www.devilmaycaremedia.com/megynkellyshow
Chapter 1: Who is Tulsi Gabbard and what is her new role in national intelligence?
Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Kelly, welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. We have a very special program for you this morning all about Tulsi Gabbard. When I first met Tulsi, she was still a Democrat, and it was early on in her career. When she first came on this show, we didn't even have video.
It was an audio-only podcast, and you could hear her with the birds tweeting in the background from her home state of Hawaii and the two of us. were wondering what our next move was in life. This podcast was fledgling. She had been ostracized by the Democrats and the Democrat Party. And here we are five years later, both in very different places.
She's now running at the top of 18 intelligence agencies. And I'm down here interviewing her at the Office of the Director of National Intelligence. So many did not want her to get this post because while Hillary Clinton and others accused her of being Putin's puppet, et cetera, what crushes them about Telsey Gabbard is she's no one's puppet. She won't be bought. She won't be bullied.
And she won't be cowed in saying how she really feels by the military industrial complex or anyone else. So we just completed a fascinating hour-long talk about so many different things. It's Tulsi, like you've seen her a bit before, you know, still straightforward and moving and honest in her commentary, but in a brand new, really big role. Enjoy.
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Message and data rates apply. Kelsey Gabbard, I'm so excited to be here with you. There's significance to where we are. Why?
Yes. So we're sitting here in the lobby of the buildings known as Liberty Crossing of the Office of Director of National Intelligence. This organization was formed because of the disaster of the intelligence community that led, that could have prevented the attack on 9-11 had there been a
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Chapter 2: What challenges does Tulsi Gabbard face leading the intelligence community?
I smiled.
Of course you did. You're only human. Yeah, I am. So yeah, that's over for her.
And a number of other people, by the way, when you look at the 51 former intelligence officials who signed that Hunter Biden disinformation letter and never apologized for it, never held themselves accountable for it. Yes, Mark Zaid, you had Letitia James and others. Why does she even have one?
Well, some of them didn't have clearances, but they had access to classified information, and so we took away that access for those. Yeah, Alvin Bragg. Who didn't have clearances, yes. Okay. And there are more to come, and this is part of what we're doing in our investigative work as we go back and look, for example, at Crossfire Hurricane and how there were assistant U.S. attorneys who,
who were knowingly using manufactured testimony, that they would interview a witness, for example, and know that the witness was lying to them, either because they set up the lie or they knew that the witness was lying, took that lie and used it as evidence to get a warrant under FISA to go and surveil on Americans. which is completely illegal.
And so these are the kinds of things, those types of people, those assistant U.S. attorneys or those FBI agents that were involved in this kind of stuff, these are crimes that need to be prosecuted and these people need to be held accountable. Will that happen? That will happen.
Well, I mean, it's called the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. That's right. That's what it's supposed to be used for. Yeah, it's a good reminder. Yeah. On the subject of saving money, you're doing some of that right here. Yes.
And in part, it relates to enacting President Trump's DEI directives and pulling back on some of the nonsense that I know you and all the other agencies were spending money on, not you, you, but the intel community. Can you speak to a little bit of, like, what you found? Because you're doing your own doge. You're doing DIG. Yes. So that's under you. You didn't outsource.
This is not one of the areas that Elon and Doge came into. You did it on your own, and I understand why.
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